Coach Scott Drew And Bob Huggins, TNF Suck Fest Between The Bears And Commanders + Week 6 Picks And Preview

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Coach Scott Drew, national champion, and Bob Huggins, our good friend from West Virginia.

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Speaker 1 Go check out the new Chevy Silverado, the best truck ever created. Today is Friday, October 14th, and the Bears still suck.

Speaker 5 And the Commanders also still suck.

Speaker 8 Nah, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 You won the game.

Speaker 5 I mean, are you going to say that we don't suck?

Speaker 1 But you get to do, you get to, you won the game. Okay, we won the game.
You won the game.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to apologize for winning the game. Yeah, you can't apologize.
We're not going to apologize for making America watch our two shitty teams.

Speaker 5 But maybe you got a small glimpse into what it's like being myself and Big Cat on any given Sunday for the last, I don't know,

Speaker 5 25 years of watching football.

Speaker 5 I hope you enjoyed it. Maybe that explains a little bit about how we are and why we are the way that we are.

Speaker 5 But if you don't love me at my Commander's Bears, you don't deserve me at my Bills Chiefs this weekend.

Speaker 1 But you won the game, so the only win that I get is I get to bitch about my team. Okay, bitch about you because you won the game.
You are now, what, two and three? Two and three? Two and four.

Speaker 1 We're both two and four.

Speaker 5 Two and four. Hank is about to be two and four, maybe.

Speaker 1 The Bears just suck. They're just a joke of a franchise.
I actually think Justin Fields played okay,

Speaker 1 and that's if you take out the time that he threw an absolute laser at a defensive lineman's helmet that became an interception, and also when he completely missed, I think it was Cole Komet in the end zone on maybe the the easiest throw ever.

Speaker 1 If you take those out, he had a nice night and a really nice run at the end. He had a really nice run at the end.
The Bears could not score from the five-yard line. What does my hat say?

Speaker 5 Run the damn ball.

Speaker 1 I don't know why they didn't run the damn ball. I don't know why they had 55 seconds left.
They should have run the ball at least once. All their wide receivers have fucking frying pans for hands.

Speaker 1 Vilas Jones is a joke. Like, that looked like us trying to catch punts when we went to Colorado.
He's done that twice now in three weeks, four weeks, three weeks. Get him the fuck off the team.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Bears suck. They're a joke of an organization.
Nothing's going to change. And I think Justin Fields kind of played okay at times.

Speaker 1 In the one good play that he did have, like the bomb, Amazon totally cucked the Bears and didn't show the entire play.

Speaker 5 I thought that was going to be the only touchdown of the night, and they weren't even going to show it. That would have been so perfect.
Al Michaels hated this game, by the way.

Speaker 5 Al Michaels, I think he might actually retire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they were like, this is back-to-back. This is having to do last week and then this week.

Speaker 5 It's elder abuse. Yeah.
Basically, what they're doing, it's like Ben Stiller and Happy Gilmore. They're locking Al Michaels in a booth and forcing him to do manual labor.

Speaker 1 And I got myself so hyped that it was going to be like chaotic fun, and it just ended up being not,

Speaker 1 which was the 99% chance of happening was what we watched, just a pathetic game where it was like one team that couldn't do anything, the commanders, the other team, the Bears, could do everything except score touchdowns, which is important.

Speaker 1 And I'm not triggered right now, but I am replying to people being like, we dominated the game, which is a very sad place to be as a fan, to be like, lose a game and be like, check the box score, bro.

Speaker 1 We outgained him by 200 yards. That's as pathetic as it gets.
And I'm there.

Speaker 5 I'm going to say a couple nice things. A couple nice things about the commanders because we did win the game.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you won the game.

Speaker 5 I don't want to be too negative about it.

Speaker 1 Right. If I had won the game, I would be very happy.

Speaker 5 We did win the game.

Speaker 5 Brian Robinson scored a touchdown tonight.

Speaker 5 He's incredible again that's i think the best story in the nfl right now he got shot twice in his leg he's back he's running he's probably going to be if he's not already our number one back he will be as of probably next week uh he's a lot of fun to watch our defensive line played well montez sweat is a fucking monster i actually think montez sweat is better than chase young even when chase young was healthy it'll be interesting to see when he gets back on the field what that front four is capable of doing but between sweat and allen and then chase young coming back we've got got some other good guys in the middle too.

Speaker 5 Our defensive line is good. I'll give them that.

Speaker 5 Joey Sly had a terrible miss at the end, just hooked it off to the left.

Speaker 5 It reminded me of the Joey Sly kicks that we got a couple years ago in Carolina when they would just send him out at the end of a game to attempt like a 65-yard field goal, and he would miss all of those.

Speaker 1 Wait, you forgot Tress Way.

Speaker 5 Tress Way.

Speaker 1 Because I think punters should get credit for when a punt returner just completely must. Oh, I did.

Speaker 5 I said, I tweeted it out right after it happened.

Speaker 5 Tress Way is our most effective offensive weapon yeah tress way i i bought a tress way jersey you know things are going really well for your franchise when you buy a jersey of the punter but i love tress way best ping pong player on the team too by the way huge uh so it was it was an interesting evening as a commanders fan the the lead up to the game um kind of overshadowed the game to a certain extent the report that came out about dan snyder again i feel like charlie brown kicking the football if dan snyder is gonna have to sell the team yeah but you know that seth wickersham means business when he drops a report like at 6.59 in the morning.

Speaker 5 You know, he fucking loves that. He's just like tossing a match into the internet and being like, okay, this is going to affect the rest of your day.
Hank knows that feeling quite well.

Speaker 5 I think he did.

Speaker 1 And he definitely had this report like a couple weeks ago. He's like, no, let's wait until they go on Amazon, you know, Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 5 The timing was suspicious. So they had like, it took them a while to put this together.

Speaker 5 They talked to like 31 different sources, different owners, high-level executives and people in the league office.

Speaker 5 And then they waited to put it out on the day that it would be most embarrassing for Dan Snyder, which is when he's on national internet.

Speaker 5 And I do get the feeling like they are pissed off enough at him to make him sell the team. But you know what? It seems like from this report, Dan Snyder's entire strategy is

Speaker 5 he is like, if you take me out, I'm taking everybody out with you.

Speaker 1 And he has...

Speaker 5 He's going to. Oh, your boy's going to.
Dan Snyder is willing.

Speaker 5 Dan Snyder is willing to take down the entire NFL with him.

Speaker 1 I wish that that Virginia McCasky got fucking fingered at

Speaker 1 a massage parlor so she would sell the bears. Well, that's already out there.

Speaker 5 It is actually a good possibility that Dan Snyder has serious dirt on Roger Goodell because he's had private investigators following everybody around.

Speaker 5 He's such a piece of shit that now at this point, I almost respect what a piece of shit he is.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, and this is... He's gone full, full mafia again.

Speaker 1 And this report was like, obviously it was big because it was actually penned to paper and it was in front of everyone but we've talked about this that he this is he's always had this dirt on everyone that's why he that's why you can't get rid of him because all these guys are buddy buddy for years and years and years they all know the weird shit they do yeah he'll just blow the whole thing up if he has to i thought the most telling part of the entire article was after it detailed explicitly all the bad shit that he's done like tried to force himself sexually on multiple employees all the fraud that he's committed everything going down the list one by one by one One of the owners was asked, Well, what if he gets a new deal for a stadium done?

Speaker 5 Does that affect your vote? He goes, Yes, absolutely. That would change.

Speaker 1 Of course, of course.

Speaker 5 So they're all about money at the end of the day. But I'm considering going to protest Dan Snyder at the NFL owners meeting on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 5 Considering it. Get him the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Considering it.

Speaker 5 We're having the discussion.

Speaker 1 What did you guys think of the game? You watched the game.

Speaker 9 You had to be subjected to the game.

Speaker 11 I was nodding off in the first half.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 1 It was very bad.

Speaker 11 I had

Speaker 1 half a Justin Fields throw, though.

Speaker 11 I had Herbert touchdown score and first touchdown score.

Speaker 11 So when he got stuck at the goal line, I pretty much checked out because I knew there was no chance he was going to even have another shot. Correct.

Speaker 9 I just felt really bad for you guys.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're a Jets fan, Billy.

Speaker 1 Root for the New York game.

Speaker 1 You won one game. Three and two.

Speaker 1 Three and two. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Since like 2010.

Speaker 5 At 2010, I bet you that we have a better record than you.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that right now.

Speaker 5 After the Mark Sanchez,

Speaker 10 I have hope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Bears probably do because 18, they won a lot of games. So don't give me that, though, but I'm just saying.
No, Billy, you can't do that. Your Jets feel bad.

Speaker 9 Hank can do it.

Speaker 1 Even Max can do it.

Speaker 9 I just feel bad for you guys.

Speaker 1 Well, I feel bad for you. I feel bad for you.
I feel bad for us. Yeah.

Speaker 11 The listeners.

Speaker 8 I feel bad for you.

Speaker 1 No, their listeners are sickos and perverts and weirdos. They love.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, Hank.

Speaker 1 Trust me. They're listening to this right now, and they're like, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 They're probably jerking off in their car, being like, listen to how sad these guys are one guy's franchise can't score a touchdown from the five and just makes stupid mistakes the other guy has been saying the same story about his owner selling the team for the last 10 years we're pathetic and they love it they love it they're just that meme remember the the guy that says sicko and he's looking through the mirror or the window that's what that's what all of our listeners are right now i think though if they like best case scenario the bears and the commanders are good and it's like a slug fest and the team wins on a big touchdown that would be much much better for no show

Speaker 1 No, you're wrong. Because

Speaker 1 it's not even like heartbreak.

Speaker 1 You guys don't have heartbreak.

Speaker 11 You just have like

Speaker 11 a ton of people.

Speaker 8 You're not sad, you're disappointed.

Speaker 11 I would prefer double doink days than these just sad, sad times.

Speaker 5 Did you see Carson Wentz?

Speaker 1 What fucked up as that is to say?

Speaker 5 Carson Wentz as a lead blocker tonight. That was awesome.
That was a highlight play, kind of. It wasn't a touchdown, but that's something I can be a little bit excited about.

Speaker 5 Now, on the other hand, when he gets back in shotgun and there's nobody else in the backfield with him, I think he gets lonely and he gets like

Speaker 5 he gets depressed when he doesn't have like a running back standing next to him to be a buddy. He just feels like he's out there on his little lonesome.
He's just, he makes me sad.

Speaker 5 The team makes me sad.

Speaker 11 Shout out to the people in the truck, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for take on me.

Speaker 1 Definitely in AWL. What do you guys think happened?

Speaker 13 I have the record since 2010 of the Commanders and Jets.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go. Bears beat him, right? Yeah, Bears are

Speaker 1 18 was, we won a lot of games. 16.
We have some games in the league.

Speaker 13 Yeah, with

Speaker 13 106.

Speaker 1 With Cutler.

Speaker 13 Washington. Yeah.
77, 120, and 1.

Speaker 13 The Jets, 77, and 121.

Speaker 1 Winner by half a game. Yeah, let's go.
Fuck you, Billy.

Speaker 1 I think this is before tonight, but still. You still won a half hour.
Jake bad passion.

Speaker 11 You just humor me.

Speaker 1 Oh, shut up, Hamlet.

Speaker 13 144 and 54.

Speaker 1 First place.

Speaker 10 Wait, so after tonight, we beat them?

Speaker 1 Wait, 144 and 11. Billy, we won.

Speaker 14 We were up by half a game, and and they won.

Speaker 1 What were the Bears?

Speaker 13 The Bears are 21st. They're 92 and 106.

Speaker 1 Only 14 under 500. That's so bad.

Speaker 1 It's only 14. 92 wins, a lot of wins.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of wins.

Speaker 11 You go undefeated for the rest of the season, and you're almost 500.

Speaker 13 Wow, this is so misleading. The Bills are an even 500, but it makes sense.

Speaker 1 But it's just like the Bills. There's two.
No, but listen.

Speaker 1 Jets fans cannot.

Speaker 1 They have had one good week.

Speaker 10 But at least we don't go. I don't think we're going to go

Speaker 5 to the first half without scoring.

Speaker 1 The That's scoring

Speaker 1 New York.

Speaker 13 That's 29th and 30th in the league.

Speaker 1 Get memes in New York. I want to see memes.
I want memes asking you. I don't know how the Billy...

Speaker 1 No, no, I know that, but in a whole game, like neither team.

Speaker 5 You started

Speaker 1 white as quarterback.

Speaker 13 They beat Skylar Thompson.

Speaker 1 They literally hang the banner, Billy. They win one game and they're in the middle of the best team in the world.
They're in the Crimson Tide. Jesus.
And they're mocking fans in this family.

Speaker 1 Family Billy.

Speaker 13 After their quarterback gets a concussion.

Speaker 5 You started

Speaker 5 Christian Hackenberg.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but it's just more exciting. Sam Donner got

Speaker 10 dead.

Speaker 1 The first half was dead. Sam Darnold got mommy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but that's exciting.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. It's like, whoa, what happened?

Speaker 5 Bryce Petty was your quarterback, Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was cool.

Speaker 10 Oh, my God. He sounds like a rock star.

Speaker 1 All Jeff fans right now are listening and they're cringing the fact that you tried to look down on us. Yeah, that's fine.
Well, no, no, I felt bad.

Speaker 10 I mean, the thing is,

Speaker 1 you know, I felt bad for both of you guys. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, at the same time.
No, no, no. Me and Big

Speaker 1 to say that.

Speaker 15 Was it prime time? No, no. You know what it was?

Speaker 10 It was the spotlight.

Speaker 1 It was the the spotlight. That would be like

Speaker 1 if I had AIDS and was about to die and you had AIDS and you were about to die and be like, oh, I feel bad for you. Be like, dude, what are you talking about?

Speaker 10 But like, you're Magic Johnson in primetime, and I'm just some random.

Speaker 1 Why would you say Magic Johnson?

Speaker 10 Because he's like the one guy that everyone knows has AIDS.

Speaker 5 Okay, no, I would say that we're

Speaker 5 we have like we have COVID and you are like, oh man, that sucks. I'm really sorry that you got that cough.
Easy. And you have AIDS.

Speaker 9 Sure.

Speaker 10 But it was just a combined, it was just a combined, no one really won. Like, do you feel like you won?

Speaker 5 It's like, no, it's like, I have

Speaker 1 no we suck.

Speaker 5 It's like, I have dementia, you have AIDS. And then the doctor comes to me and he's like, you've got dementia.
I'm like, well, at least Billy doesn't have AIDS.

Speaker 1 2020 Jets, week six against the Miami Dolphins, they lost 24 to nothing. That's four straight quarters is zero points.

Speaker 10 No, but I'm saying there was scoring in that game. It was just a bad game all around.

Speaker 1 24-0 is a lot of scoring.

Speaker 10 Right, but there's like action in that game.

Speaker 1 Okay, they played the dolphins later in the season they lost 20 to 3 they scored three points right that's not a lot of action but there's scoring it was just a bad football all around on both teams we know it was bad football billy but we don't me and big cat can say that about our teams but i'm not gonna sit here you're a part of the new york jets you're a part of be like you run an organization that's in disarray frankly well we're there's an upswing at one week

Speaker 5 maybe like a half you're on a half you know what just one half a football upswing you're trending and you're going off vibes right now, Billy. Exactly.

Speaker 1 In 2018, you lost 13 to 6 to the Jets or to the Dolphins. Okay.
That's the same thing.

Speaker 1 It's worse. We're the same.

Speaker 8 I know, I know, but I just felt bad.

Speaker 1 You had one good game.

Speaker 10 All I said, no, no, no. All I said was I felt bad for you guys tonight.

Speaker 1 Because so, like, Billy gets like one, Billy gets like one.

Speaker 10 Did anybody else not feel bad for that?

Speaker 1 Billy finds like 20 bucks on the ground. He basically found 20 bucks on the ground.
He's like, I'm rich. I can retire.
Like, fuck everyone. Sorry, I'm out of here.
Sorry, I'm happy.

Speaker 1 No, that's not what that was that's not what i guarantee you're looking down i guarantee you i know what the problem with billy as an athlete would be is he would win a game and then he would just not practice he'd be like we're good for the next week i'm awesome like you see how much swag we had though yeah we're we're sick bro let's just go out there and swag all right let's talk about this game some more

Speaker 1 it sucked that's all i got it did stink i wish the bears like i don't know what they're doing i they're the delay of game we didn't even i mean the delay of game was comical fourth and fourth and 11 and they get a delay a game.

Speaker 1 They don't know.

Speaker 1 Sometimes they do good play calling, and then sometimes they're like, hey, why don't we run from the fucking five-yard line? Why don't we run from the one-yard line? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Why is Justin Fields ever passing in the pocket? He's so much better when he's outside the pocket. You know, you can't do that all the time.

Speaker 5 He had a couple nice passes that just directly bounced off his receivers.

Speaker 1 Oh, our receivers are garbage. Bad.
Garbage. The team is garbage.

Speaker 1 The team is garbage. The organization is garbage.
But

Speaker 1 with all that said, I felt like I saw a couple of things.

Speaker 9 Justin Fields is like, he's like

Speaker 1 when you're trying to date someone and it's like, you know, they're telling you, like, hey, I'm not a good person, but you keep being like, oh, there's something about them. I like them.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 5 But yeah, you can change them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Exactly.
Like, whoa, no, this will work. Like, he's telling me who he is every single week, but then he does one or two things where I'm like, damn, that was cool.
Like,

Speaker 1 I like this. Yeah.
I want this. But that's not what he is.

Speaker 5 Then he abuses you, and he's like, I swear I'll never do it again.

Speaker 5 Okay, all right, I'll give him another chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 it was a bad night of football, but you know what?

Speaker 1 It felt good to be able to yell at Billy there. That felt cathartic.
It was football. I'm good now.

Speaker 5 At the end of the day, we got to watch football tonight, and a night with football is better than a night without football.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm going to say. We say that, but it's starting to sometimes feel like maybe not.
It would have been nice to just go to bed at like 9 o'clock.

Speaker 5 I do think it's

Speaker 5 there was one point tonight where the game did go by so fast because both of of these teams play a very,

Speaker 5 they give us a swift and merciful death.

Speaker 1 They don't like to pass, and they don't pass effectively. A lot of balls hitting the ground.

Speaker 1 And Carson once had 99 yards. Yeah, but he had that sweet block.
He did have a lot of time.

Speaker 5 He also was playing with

Speaker 5 a strained biceps tendon. True.
And he also fucked up his hand and did like this weird whirlybird Adams family fleshlight handshake thing that he was doing. Yep.
It was just really creepy.

Speaker 5 And then he just kept like putting his hand in his back pocket.

Speaker 5 I think he might be severely injured, so I suggest maybe

Speaker 5 shut him down for the season or trade him to the Texans. Oh, for his health, for his health.

Speaker 1 Here's something we can say. Let's end with this.
This is positive. Carson Wentz and Justin Fields are tough motherfuckers.
They are.

Speaker 1 They both got their ass kicked tonight, and they didn't come out of the game.

Speaker 1 I thought at one point Justin Fields had torn his ACL or broken his back. I definitely still think that Carson Wentz has a broken hand.
And they

Speaker 1 maybe it would have been better if they had come out because it could have maybe you know changed some things up.

Speaker 1 But let's say something positive: they're both tough motherfuckers, they are tough motherfuckers, they really are. Agreed.
Now,

Speaker 5 I had the feeling that looking back on this win tonight in a couple months, I'm going to be like, damn, if we had just lost this game, we could have had like the number four overall pick instead of the number like eight or nine overall.

Speaker 1 Oh, losing is definitely better at this point.

Speaker 5 But in the moment, I wanted to win. Well, right now, I'm glad that we won, but I just know that

Speaker 5 this might have been a foolish victory.

Speaker 1 If my problem with this loss is that I'm very much in the like, why win games when we could get a better draft pick? Because this team's going nowhere. But

Speaker 1 there is like little things like, hey, maybe it's good if you take a step forward and can actually score from the five-yard line. It's the way they lost.

Speaker 1 Like, if the Bears had lost 21 to nothing, I would have been like, yeah, they suck. Who cares?

Speaker 1 But the fact that they were a little bit of tantalizing, like, ooh, maybe we could move the ball a little bit. And hey, you know, the offense looks okay.

Speaker 1 And then they just can't score. So that's where it really was a kick in the balls.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and as far as just losing and tanking the entire season,

Speaker 5 you can't learn how to win in the NFL by losing. That's a fact.
That's just math.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a fact. Orion Fitzpatrick has all his kids out there.

Speaker 5 Congrats on the sex, bro.

Speaker 1 It's a shitload of kids.

Speaker 1 All right. I think that's it.

Speaker 1 Any last words? Jake, you want to.

Speaker 1 McDolphins are the same.

Speaker 9 Yeah, McDolphins are better.

Speaker 1 I must talk about it. Yeah.

Speaker 13 I've never seen a playoff one. Yeah.
At least that I remember. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 10 Did you not feel bad for them?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Billy, you're a shit fucking fan.

Speaker 2 You won one.

Speaker 10 You guys were in prime time. This was supposed to be the big thing.
It was supposed to be the big you guys facing off.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't.

Speaker 9 We knew this was a house divided by the ball.

Speaker 1 It was actually the opposite. PFT and I, before the game, we were like, should we do a mayor's bet? We're like, both these teams suck.
This is going to suck. Let's just get through this.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it was actually the opposite.

Speaker 8 There was like zero expectations.

Speaker 1 And Hank might be right. If they both were really good, it would have been a lot more fun.
It would have been more shit talking.

Speaker 1 But it was, if you watch the stream, it was basically like both of us just trying to will our teams to do anything competent.

Speaker 5 Tell you what, Billy, let's revisit this conversation on the night of December 22nd at about 11.30 p.m.

Speaker 5 Right after the Jets are done in primetime playing the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 And then we'll see who's sad and who should feel sorry for him.

Speaker 1 Bears play the Jets this year.

Speaker 8 I hope we fucking kick your ass.

Speaker 10 It's going to be fun.

Speaker 10 But like, that was just.

Speaker 5 How is that making? it?

Speaker 10 But the thing is, when two bad teams play each other, they're supposed to equalize.

Speaker 1 Are the Jets good right now? Look, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 But when two bad teams play each other, they're supposed to be bad and then look decent like two college teams playing each other as opposed to an NFL team and a college team.

Speaker 14 No bad teams.

Speaker 5 Because in this circumstance,

Speaker 5 when they're bad, it's because they can't do things like block or catch a football.

Speaker 1 Catching a football being a big part of what the Bears can't do.

Speaker 11 Catching a football is bad. And then

Speaker 5 if you can't do things like block somebody that's coming after your quarterback, then that's just going to make for bad football.

Speaker 1 Like Velas Jones, just not being able to catch a punt was bad.

Speaker 11 Throwing an easy touchdown. Bad team.

Speaker 1 Bad.

Speaker 10 Bad teams can have barn burners.

Speaker 1 Yes. They can.

Speaker 5 Well, if they're able to do things like catch a football. Correct.

Speaker 1 Or throw a football.

Speaker 10 So even for bad teams, this was bad.

Speaker 5 And that is why.

Speaker 1 It was a bad night. And I think a lot of people,

Speaker 1 I think,

Speaker 1 in the back of your head, like beating the Dolphins 40 to 17,

Speaker 1 you do think you won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 You do. And also, we have hope going in against the Packers, against Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Now I hope he's going to 50%.

Speaker 10 Remember, remember, this might be a good thing.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to root for Aaron Rodgers. But you're making me very close.
No, but

Speaker 1 I'm probably in some sort of

Speaker 10 win-week type. dysphoria.

Speaker 1 Billy, check in with me on Monday. Oh, you might be down back there.
You think? Yeah. You think you're a Jets fan who's being like, you guys are pathetic.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You might get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit bit of dysphoria. You know why?

Speaker 2 Sorry. Because

Speaker 5 it's been like five days since you've watched the Jets. So you forgot what the Jets are like.

Speaker 1 But I watched it live.

Speaker 10 That was like cocaine.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 9 if the Jets are cocaine, Billy, Billy is Christian.

Speaker 5 Billy is like a sorcery. Then the Commanders are a crocodile.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on cocaine?

Speaker 10 The Economist thinks that we should legalize it.

Speaker 1 Are you going to write a blog about it?

Speaker 10 I did, but yeah, never mind.

Speaker 1 Billy is like the

Speaker 1 Billy's a sophomore that goes abroad.

Speaker 9 and was like, you guys got to go to fucking London.

Speaker 1 It's incredible. It changes your life.
You saw one Jets win in person. You're like,

Speaker 1 you guys wouldn't get it. It's just like a totally different experience.

Speaker 5 Also, me and Big Cat, it's like we have our teams are our babies, and I'm allowed to call my baby ugly.

Speaker 1 Correct. I'm allowed to be like, look how ugly it is right now.

Speaker 5 Like its ears are so big, it hasn't grown into its feet yet. You are not allowed to call my baby ugly.
Because

Speaker 1 your baby's fucked up, but my baby's a fetal alcohol syndrome. My baby's not in primetime.

Speaker 11 Your baby's a hell infant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your baby has.

Speaker 10 Remember when the Titans played the Jaguars? And it was like, what would we call it? Like the stink bowl?

Speaker 1 The toilet bowl. The toilet bowl.

Speaker 10 But it was still a good game.

Speaker 5 Sure. No.

Speaker 1 That's why. Those games were never good.

Speaker 5 No, I think that's good. But it was better than this game.
I just don't, I'm not here to have Billy tell me that my football team is

Speaker 8 one game changes a guy.

Speaker 1 You forget who you are.

Speaker 5 You were starting Joe Flacco two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 And we had a comeback win.

Speaker 1 I love you, Joe.

Speaker 5 Oh, but I mean, even Joe has to admit, like, wow, I'm really stealing money right now.

Speaker 1 Hank, what's in that bag? Let's take a look. Got out.
What's in that bag?

Speaker 10 Well, why don't we end the show?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a part of my cheese steak. Oh,

Speaker 1 wow. Hooter part of my cheese steak at this hour.

Speaker 11 They were just lying around the office.

Speaker 15 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Great. So, anyone's supposed to eat one?

Speaker 5 I think Billy lost a bet to White Sox Dave tonight.

Speaker 1 Oh, you you know what, Hank?

Speaker 5 We got to get the hot sauce.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 11 where is it?

Speaker 5 I think it's out on the couch.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go get the hot sauce.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's have a bite. We'll just have a bite.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we'll just eat some of the bottles.

Speaker 1 Let's have a bite.

Speaker 1 Just have a fucking bite.

Speaker 5 As we wait for Hank to get back, so Billy and White Sox Dave had a contest, and Billy was on the side of the Commanders. White Sox Dave was obviously

Speaker 5 on the side of the Bears.

Speaker 1 And whichever team

Speaker 5 scored first, whichever team scored first, the other guy had to eat a part of my cheese steak with Sean Evans' Hot One Hot Sauce that's got, I think it's the 10 out of 10 spiciness.

Speaker 5 So, Sean is actually, he's a friend of ours, and he said, because he's very excited to watch you eat this, Billy, he loves you.

Speaker 5 If it's a good sandwich, then we could maybe do a secret menu with Sean Evans, which would be, I mean, that's a good business opportunity for you. So, I hope that you're able to eat this.

Speaker 5 Could mean a lot of money, Billy.

Speaker 1 By the way, I don't like the orange helmets.

Speaker 1 Maybe if they had one, I would like them.

Speaker 5 That's kind of how it goes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 can we call a timeout here okay timeout okay timeout timeout 20 seconds you get 20 second timeout 20 second timeout i'm taking a full okay full so all right what's you get a minute you get a minute timeout this was supposed to be for the stream yeah this is a stream of sorts so if white socks dave

Speaker 1 subscribe if white socks dave would have lost he wouldn't have had to do it he would have went home oh no he would have done it no no you got it that guy does everything no he doesn't no all right all right i'm telling you right now if we could go back in time and change it so the commander scored first i would make white socks dave do it billy we got this in the third quarter.

Speaker 18 We were just holding it for after. We would have done it to him on the stream.
I know you're trying to come up with a shot.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 10 Show me your sheets.

Speaker 1 Show me the sheets.

Speaker 9 Show me your sheets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, motherfuckers. Billy, are you just.

Speaker 10 I hate getting fucking punked on the ship.

Speaker 1 Are you just...

Speaker 5 Like, you guys think I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 Well, White Sox Dave did beat you in the Wonderlick.

Speaker 15 Yeah, 10-17.

Speaker 1 Okay, but still, that is. Wait, that is the third quarter.

Speaker 1 That's the third quarter.

Speaker 10 10-30.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. That's the third quarter it's 1145 right now i hate getting punked by billy all the time what the fuck is this

Speaker 1 hey what the hell is this billy why can't you ever just do something without cheese i do every fucking thing like what the fuck

Speaker 5 okay you don't have to eat the entire sandwich it's just it like

Speaker 1 just billy give me i just why did how does putting tons of hot sauce advertise for the fucking cheesesteak because they're like i'm gonna not like it with all the hot sauce it wasn't even part of putting this bet together, but because you

Speaker 1 belittled our franchises, now I want to see you do it.

Speaker 5 Just give me three bites. You don't have to eat the entire thing.
Just three bites.

Speaker 5 I'll take a bite. Billy, I'll take a bite too, okay?

Speaker 10 How much hot sauce are we putting on it?

Speaker 1 Will you call me a bad baby? Come down. I'll take a bite, but I'm on a diet because Hank called me fat fuck.

Speaker 10 Like, because I'm going to be probably not be able to sleep tonight because I ate fucking hot sauce, and that's going to be like fucking, it's just annoying.

Speaker 5 Now, Billy's going to be like, you're giving me mental illness from having to do this.

Speaker 10 Yes, eating the fucking hottest sauce ever.

Speaker 5 I just told you I'd take a bite.

Speaker 5 Why can't you just do something? I'll smell it.

Speaker 1 You can do everything.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I'm actually hungry, too. Yeah, so eat it.
So eat it.

Speaker 15 I will eat it, but like, how.

Speaker 5 Just take three bites.

Speaker 1 I'll take one bite, okay?

Speaker 15 No, I'm going to eat it, but it's...

Speaker 1 I'll take a bite. I'll take a bite.
Am I supposed to put hot sauce on it?

Speaker 9 Yes, Billy, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Don't receive it. No, but there's no hot sauce on it.

Speaker 1 Do you want me to eat it?

Speaker 5 Billy, there's hot sauce right next to you.

Speaker 1 What are we doing here? Are you being serious?

Speaker 10 What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 See how easy it is to take a bite?

Speaker 10 No, because there's no hot sauce on it.

Speaker 1 That's not the point. I was so easy.
Take a bite.

Speaker 5 Billy, give me the hot sauce.

Speaker 1 All right, now put your hot sauce on. Give me the hot sauce.

Speaker 5 Sometimes I think you don't speak English.

Speaker 10 You just took a bite, no hot sauce.

Speaker 1 Okay. I said I would take a bite.
I didn't say anything about hot sauce.

Speaker 5 I will take a bite with hot sauce.

Speaker 1 My team lost.

Speaker 1 Okay. Boom.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Here comes the bite. And he took the bite.

Speaker 10 Wait, when we originally talked about this, there was going to be dousing it in hot sauce.

Speaker 1 He feels good. That's really good.
He looks good. He feels good.

Speaker 10 So that's how much I can put on?

Speaker 1 That's how much I can put it on. Oh,

Speaker 1 three bites.

Speaker 1 Now do you feel like that?

Speaker 2 I know I'm looking unreasonable, but this

Speaker 1 is way under your bat.

Speaker 10 This is way oversold.

Speaker 5 I just took a bite.

Speaker 1 Who sold anything?

Speaker 9 Nobody.

Speaker 1 Will you stop me? I'm not. Stop me.

Speaker 5 Billy, will you stop talking and give me your sandwich?

Speaker 10 Because you're about to douse in hot sauce.

Speaker 10 This is so stupid.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love everybody.
We're sucking over.

Speaker 1 Will you stop talking?

Speaker 1 Billy, stop talking.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear you talk ever again.

Speaker 11 We thought Billy got over his fear of food and getting conquered by food in Colorado, but. You can't do it.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Yeah, that's a little bit.
See that? Oh,

Speaker 5 that's three bites worth.

Speaker 1 PFT ate it. I did eat it.

Speaker 5 I'm actually going to take another bite with more hot sauce, okay?

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa.

Speaker 1 He's just doing this for sport now.

Speaker 2 He's showing you up. Stupid.

Speaker 5 Okay, I'm just putting more hot sauce on it and doing this because I'm a man.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 He's showing you up. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. How are you?

Speaker 8 Be careful. Be careful.

Speaker 1 Be careful. Be careful.

Speaker 5 Stop talking.

Speaker 1 This is your idea. Stop talking.
Yes.

Speaker 5 My idea is you're to eat the sandwich, not talk to me about eating the sandwich.

Speaker 1 Billy, be careful.

Speaker 14 Watch, I'll take a bite.

Speaker 17 You're all taking bites.

Speaker 1 You're all taking bites of sandwiches without hot sauce in it. Not me.

Speaker 5 I just ate three bites in your face.

Speaker 1 Take a bite.

Speaker 9 Hank just took a bite.

Speaker 1 Wow. What a beast.
Hank's a beast.

Speaker 1 You know what? Billy, I'm going to eat your half hour. How mad are you? How mad are you? How mad are you?

Speaker 10 You literally volunteered me for something to put tons of hot sauce on it. Why are you so mad?

Speaker 15 Why are you so mad?

Speaker 10 Because I'm about to do it. I'm about to do it.

Speaker 2 I'm about to do it.

Speaker 10 Billy. I'm about to do it.
You got to kill me.

Speaker 1 Give me your sandwich. I'm not going to.

Speaker 9 I'm going to eat it because you won't shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 All right, let's kick it to ourselves. We can't preview because he's not going to eat it.
No, it doesn't matter. He's not going to eat it.
Do a playoff baseball quickly. What? Playoff baseball.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, give us a little playoff baseball.

Speaker 1 Jake, give us a little playoff baseball. The Vastro Series.

Speaker 13 Deer on Alvarez, very good. Really good.

Speaker 1 Monster.

Speaker 13 Walk off in game one. Another one in game two.

Speaker 1 There is two love.

Speaker 13 The Padres steal one in L.A. Yep.
1-1. Oh, not West.

Speaker 1 Taking a bite. The Goose landing on the field.

Speaker 13 Or even in the Battle of the NL East between Atlanta and Philadelphia, and the Yankees got reigned out. So by the time you're listening to this, it'll be game two in the afternoon.

Speaker 13 Yankees looking to go up two love over Cleveland.

Speaker 1 That's two love. All right.
Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 5 Hey, Billy, that was the wrong side of the sandwich. You just took a bite.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fucking eating a bread. It's hot.
Okay. It's not that hot.
We'll kick it to ourselves. Watch PM TV.
You can watch the rest of the video. It's not that fucking hot.

Speaker 1 Because I'm sure it will keep going on for a few minutes in the studio. Let's kick it to ourselves for weekend preview.

Speaker 1 We didn't talk baseball last night, man. Keep it rolling.
Keep it rolling. No.

Speaker 20 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 20 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 20 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 20 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Week six, NFL season. We're a third of the way in.
Feels like

Speaker 1 we know some stuff.

Speaker 5 This is revenge week.

Speaker 5 There's revenge all over the schedule.

Speaker 1 All over the schedule.

Speaker 5 It's kind of crazy. Every single matchup, I'm like, revenge, revenge, revenge.

Speaker 5 It's Vengeance Week. Yes.

Speaker 2 And we...

Speaker 5 We have teams that we think are good right now that we've overreacted to that I think I'm about to pendulum on the other way.

Speaker 1 I I have some teams that

Speaker 1 we just assume are good, and I'm starting to think they might not be good.

Speaker 5 Are we talking like by names and helmets and logos?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and record as well. Record as well and past performances.
I mean, we'll just say it right now. We're going to get to all the picks, but like, are the Bengals just not good this year?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 Interesting question.

Speaker 1 Are the Vikings not really good, but their record says they are?

Speaker 5 Are the Packers not very good this year?

Speaker 1 The Packers might be bad, although I'm not going to fall for that trap. I think the Packers

Speaker 5 as they stand right now are bad.

Speaker 1 Yes, not very good. So let's do the picks.
Jake, what are our standings at?

Speaker 13 Yeah, Billy, the winner of last week, at 3-1.

Speaker 1 Whoa, good job, Billy.

Speaker 13 I did get my first set of wins since week two.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 13 So I'm in last place at 5-15. PFT at 7-13.
Billy at 8-12. Max, 9-11.
Hank and Big Cat tied at 10-10. Okay.

Speaker 5 I'm still pretty tight.

Speaker 13 I survived that 0-8 stretch. I'm only two games out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So there you go.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 Feels good you just got to make it through the hard times exactly the winners are going to come that is crazy to say you got your first win since week two and i'm only two out and you're only two out yeah because it feels yeah pft won 0-4 it feels like every week we have an 0-4 just drop i'm pretty sure i've gone 0-4 twice i think we've had one every week yeah so the crazy thing is i'm insanely hot on baseball right now

Speaker 5 I bet on a goose to interrupt the game last night.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's how hot I am.

Speaker 1 I mean, there it is.

Speaker 1 As long as you're hot somewhere, you're good.

Speaker 1 Should we start? Hank, would you like to go with your favorite? Your favorite favorite?

Speaker 9 My favorite favorite this week is the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 11 Speaking of your point, is this team good? Is this team bad? I think everyone's riding high on the Giants and the Jets, honestly.

Speaker 11 I think maybe it's biased just living in New York and hearing the excitement after them having a tiny morsel fraction of success.

Speaker 11 Everyone's talking about these teams like they're going to the Super Bowl. They're going to the playoffs.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think the regression starts this week.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 11 the Ravens win by 20.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous at all about the Wink Martingdale revenge game? Because that is, he was a defensive coordinator for a decade for the Ravens. He's now the defensive coordinator for the Giants.

Speaker 1 He probably knows

Speaker 1 inside secrets like Lamar Jackson is fast.

Speaker 11 No, see, I really don't play any, I don't pay any mind to a former player or coach playing against his team. I don't think that matters whatsoever.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, not at all.

Speaker 1 Throw it out.

Speaker 5 These are, well, they are the two fastest quarterbacks in the NFL, Daniel Jones and Lamar Jackson. That's true.

Speaker 1 It also,

Speaker 1 you know, we were talking about Wink Martindale and how he just feels like an old school bookie or someone, you know, about town, loosely associated with the mafia, just that look.

Speaker 1 He's got the chain, the name Wink.

Speaker 1 Patrick Queen in the media during the week called him. He just said, he's just like an old, cool cat.
Yeah. So that's, I mean, that really speaks to it.

Speaker 1 Like, that's, he'll go over to his house and put on a blues record, and you'll just hang out and just be a cool, old, cool cat.

Speaker 5 I feel like Wink is a guy that has a guy for everything. Yeah.
You need anything? He's like, oh, yeah, I got a guy for that. You need a butcher.
He's like, yeah, I got a meat guy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You need a car salesman? Yeah, I got a dealership guy I can hook you up with. He's a guy that definitely has.
He's got guys. He's got card games going on in his basement, I bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's, and Patrick Queen said that he's still invited to all the cookouts. So there's definitely no, you know, there's no hard feelings.

Speaker 1 I think Wink probably has some hard feelings because he was there for a long time, but on the other side, not as many hard feelings.

Speaker 5 Now, the Giants just got their punter back. He was stuck in England for a while.
Scottish Scottish

Speaker 5 Scottish Hammer. The British are up to their old tricks.
Yep. Taking the Scots hostage up there.
He finally got out. They put him on a plane back.
I think he got back yesterday.

Speaker 5 I don't know how that affects the punting game because he is a pretty good punter. Right.
And he just looks cool, too.

Speaker 5 And then on the special team side for the Ravens, did you guys see the post-game interview with Justin Tucker? We missed it because we were recording part of my take as it was happening.

Speaker 5 But when he broke down everything that happens when he's kicking a game-winning field goal, it was actually fascinating to listen to him talk about it because he referred to the job that the holder did.

Speaker 5 He goes, that's his first game-winning hold that he's had, which is cool. And then he called himself a system kicker,

Speaker 5 which is, I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense because your job as a kicker, is to just be a robot and do the same thing over and over and over again with no variability.

Speaker 5 So he's like, yeah, you get the snap back. He was talking about the 1.3 seconds, the perfect hold.
He's like, at that point, the ball just kicks itself. I don't think it's quite that simple.
No.

Speaker 5 But it was cool to hear him break that down.

Speaker 1 And I also saw someone broke down where he kicked the game-winning field goal, and they broke it down that if the goal posts, if the field goal posts were one yard wide, he still would have made it in the exact middle.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 5 Half a yard wide.

Speaker 1 Half a yard wide?

Speaker 8 A foot and a half.

Speaker 5 Damn. A foot and a half, which is almost suspiciously accurate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy. He's an absolute weapon.
Okay, Ravens, minus six, going against the Giants. Don't believe in them.

Speaker 1 This does feel like the week that we're going to maybe find some things out about some teams. Max, your favorite? I'm with Hank.

Speaker 14 Whoa. My pick as well.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we're going to stay with that.

Speaker 18 PFT, what do you got for your favorite?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm going to go with the Rams.

Speaker 5 I'm taking the Rams. It's a lot of points.
Minus 10.

Speaker 5 But I feel like the Panthers are just in a dark place right now.

Speaker 5 I'm not seeing an interim coach bump for them at this point because I feel like what's going to happen, the name Christian McCaffrey has been floated out there on the trading block.

Speaker 5 If they're smart, they'll do it like baseball teams do it, where they don't really risk a guy for injury, especially a guy that has a significant injury history.

Speaker 5 If they are trying to move him, they're probably not going to use him that much. The team's not great.
P.J. Walker's going to be their quarterback.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I'd be nervous about P.J. Walker.

Speaker 5 This is a guy who can go in and just win a game. I think it's a get-back game for Sean McVean and the Rams.

Speaker 1 Okay, so a couple stats. One, since everyone loves to throw insult stats at the Bears way,

Speaker 1 here's a fun fact. The Rams have scored 80 points this year.
The Bears have scored 86. Why aren't we talking about that? The Rams scored 80 points.
We are having five weeks.

Speaker 1 We're doing it right now. Also, when a team fires their head coach mid-season,

Speaker 1 the teams after that are 15 and 16 straight up and 17 and 14 against the spread, which doesn't sound crazy, but you also have to remember when you fire your head coach, it's a very bad team.

Speaker 1 It's a bad team. So 15 and 16 straight up is actually pretty great in terms of the fact that it's always a bad team that gets fired that's usually well below 500.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I just, we've seen Steve Wilkes. Steve Wilkos?

Speaker 1 That's the guy from Jerry Springer.

Speaker 5 Yep. We've seen Steve Wilkes in the NFL before, and I think we know what...

Speaker 5 He's not like a, he doesn't strike me as a raw, raw, kicking-in-the-ass Dan Campbell Jim Tomsula type interim coach yeah he's more of like a level-headed guy I think the Panthers they absolutely need somebody that's just gonna go in there and kick them in their ass yeah and that's not that's not Steve I just I I saw an interesting stat this is gonna be uh PMT breaks down racial barriers real quick uh

Speaker 5 30 percent of interim head coaches are black as opposed to only 13 percent of full-time head coaches. Maybe somebody smarter than us can can enlighten us as to why

Speaker 1 that is. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I wonder if the Rams are just not good.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I guess we'll find out.
They might just not be a good team this year.

Speaker 5 They might not.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 they've looked very bad in multiple cases now.

Speaker 5 They've just got guys, though.

Speaker 1 But they don't have as many guys.

Speaker 5 They've got, I think, enough.

Speaker 1 But losing Odell Beckham and Von Miller are two significant loss of guys.

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 1 That's a big LOG on my analytics. Loss of guys counts for double.

Speaker 5 They got log jammed? Yeah.

Speaker 9 I just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, look.

Speaker 1 Did they bring any free? Did they figure it out?

Speaker 5 Did they bring any free agent guys?

Speaker 1 I'm just always wary of the team that you say. It's similar to the Bengals, so both participants in the Super Bowl last year, where it's like you just expect them to be good,

Speaker 1 and you got to make sure that you don't get beat by the fact they might not be good. And this might not be the game.
They might kill the Panthers.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying I always am like, I got to start changing my brain because you think Bengals, you think Rams, those teams were good. They went to the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 9 Maybe they aren't.

Speaker 5 My only move in favor of the Panthers in this game would be

Speaker 5 if they receive the opening kickoff, I might take them to win the first quarter. Because we've talked to some people about what happens when you get an interim coach.

Speaker 5 And it's like, okay, well, now you're playing just for your job in the future, trying to put something good on tape. I think

Speaker 5 they'll be motivated. Yeah.
But I just don't think that they'll be very good after that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's hard to motivate a lack of talent. Yes.
Okay, my favorite, I'm going with the Burts. Minus six against the Cowboys.
I do think the Cowboys are good.

Speaker 1 This isn't a knock on the Cowboys. I think we talked about it on Sunday that they had the Cooper Rush game where it's like they won, but not because of Cooper Rush.
It was because of their defense.

Speaker 1 The one thing that the Cowboys have been able to feast on, they, you know, kick the shit out of the Bengals, they kick the shit out of the Rams,

Speaker 1 the Commanders. They've been able to eat up in the Giants, eat up on bad offensive lines.

Speaker 1 The Eagles have arguably the best best offensive line in the nfl so it won't be as easy for their defense to dominate this game cooper rush on the road very listen that's not that's not going to sofi stadium that's going to the link right max you're going to the link baby not sofi stadium not so confirmed yes yes um also cooperate his mom doesn't have lupus oh yeah get batteries thrown at her yeah um Cooper Rush is, there's only five other quarterbacks that have started 5-0 straight up and against the spread in their first five career starts.

Speaker 1 Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes, Ben Rothsberger, Cooper Rush, and the fifth, Kyle Allen.

Speaker 1 That's a nice little spot. I just love those stats where it's like one random guy.
Yeah. Because if I was Kyle Allen, I would just have that, I would just have that

Speaker 1 plastered everywhere. I'd make a billboard in my hometown.

Speaker 5 I remember that little run that he went on.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And when he went out, I think he went to Arizona and beat Kyler Murray.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 5 Who could forget that Panthers card? Who could forget that? It was iconic. I'm surprised Jimmy Garoppolo is not there.
I feel like he was pretty good when he first got started, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, so no, but he got started for the Patriots, and then you had to have to look at Jimmy G's first career starts. But, yeah, I don't know.
Cooper Rush is one of the first.

Speaker 11 Wasn't he like 7-0 the end of that season?

Speaker 1 But that's against the spread as well. So that might be where it gets tripped up.
He might not have been 5-0 against the spread as well.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Cooper Rush is just a winner.
He just wins football games.

Speaker 1 He finds a way to win, but not on Sunday night. I'm taking the birds.

Speaker 5 I'm told that we are going to have the undefegled prop bet set up in the Barstow Sportsbook for the birds to go 17-0 this regular season.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 You like that, Hank? Yeah. Undefeagled.

Speaker 1 You're going to bet that, Hank?

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're a real shame. Do you hate?

Speaker 11 No, I don't hate Philly.

Speaker 5 You hate Philly. You hate New York.
You hate Seattle.

Speaker 1 Jimmy G did go 7-0 to start his.

Speaker 11 Who in this room has a Mariners future? Raise your hand.

Speaker 5 There's a lot of hate.

Speaker 14 Oh, it's just me.

Speaker 1 I took them as my World Series bet, and I forgot to bet them on as a future, and then I didn't want to bet them later and have everyone be like, dude, you got the worst line. That's a shame.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I go to Seattle like once a year, Hank. I love the place.

Speaker 11 I've been there once. Nice.

Speaker 1 Spencer Hawes. Yes, Spencer Hawes made us a beautiful salmon dinner.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy, your favorite Tampa Bay by eight. Billy.
Over the Steelers. Oh, you're on Billy.
Jeez, come on. Christian, that was disgusting.

Speaker 10 I didn't know I was there until I started talking.

Speaker 1 You've been making out with Hank.

Speaker 10 Tampa Bay by eight over the Steelers. The Steelers lost to the Jets by four.
The Bills by 35. I think Tampa Bay can take eight.
Tom Brady is still Tom Brady. And I think they're due for a big win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 5 Antonio Brown's at home.

Speaker 11 They fall under

Speaker 11 the category of teams that might not be that good.

Speaker 1 Bucks? Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree.
Because their offenses look bad. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But the Steelers stink.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. The Steelers are definitively bad.
This is the Unstoppable Force versus the Immovable Object.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady's 11-4 against Spread versus Steelers, and Mike Tomlins 14-4-2 as a home underdog. So something's got to give.

Speaker 1 Something's got to give.

Speaker 5 I think it's Brady.

Speaker 10 For some reason, I feel like Brady really hates the Steelers.

Speaker 1 He kind of owns them. I mean, not kind of.
He does own them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I feel like there were a lot of close games, too, between.

Speaker 5 Maybe I'm wrong about that, but Hank, weren't there some close games at the end between the Pats and the Steelers, but the Patriots just always seemed to find that one last play at the end?

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, there was the tight end touchdown on the Gold Wars.

Speaker 1 That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 Heath Miller. No, it was Jesse James.

Speaker 1 But it's the new Heath Miller. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Steelers, like, being in Pittsburgh right now has got to be fucking wild because this is very uncharted territory. We've talked to Hank about how having to question whether there's a guy.

Speaker 1 The Steelers are doing it on steroids. They have not only a terrible team, but they are also maybe thinking their coach isn't the coach, which we talked about has happened.
They've had three coaches

Speaker 1 since we landed on the moon. It's insane.
So Pittsburgh's going through it.

Speaker 11 Well, their offensive, that's where it's like, Mitch got all the blame, but it's. Yeah, no, their offense, their offense is not good, and Kenny Pickett's not that good.

Speaker 1 Kenny Pickett's good.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we don't know that he's not good, Hank.

Speaker 1 Kenny Pickett's good. Be careful.
I'm saying, watch what you said.

Speaker 11 They're like, oh, it's all Mitch. They put it all on Mitch.
Once we have Kenny, we'll be good.

Speaker 1 327 yards against the Bills. Heard their pretty good defense.

Speaker 11 How many points?

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 1 Look, you got to start somewhere. Right? I guess, yeah, technically.

Speaker 5 Okay, I heard a rumor on the radio this morning that Mike Tomlin was going to step down after this season. Like, he was going to walk away.

Speaker 5 I feel like

Speaker 5 that's just trying to get clicks on people's radio.

Speaker 1 But that also would be how I would see it going, and just the fact that the Steelers are incapable of firing a head coach. Yeah.
And they haven't had reason to, so it makes sense. Jake, your favorite?

Speaker 13 My favorite are the Bengals, minus two at the Saints. This is a return to the dome for Joe Burrow and

Speaker 1 first time back in Louisiana.

Speaker 13 We are going to see, I could just see, I could visualize CBS's crew right now cutting up highlights of that championship game and showing them before or after commercials.

Speaker 1 And they love playing in that stadium and they're only giving two points. They are.
So I like it. They're the most bet side right now, as we speak.
87% of the bets on Bengals.

Speaker 5 Also an Andy Dalton revenge game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is Jameis, what's the deal with him?

Speaker 5 So I don't think I've heard a timetable on Jameis, but having four broken bones in your back seems pretty serious. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But knowing his trainer, I'm sure they've got him like stretched out across a rack.

Speaker 1 But he did play.

Speaker 5 They probably tied up four different horses to Jameis' limbs and have them just pulling at him. He's William Wallace in different directions trying to elongate his spine or something right now.

Speaker 5 It is also the Houday versus Houdat battle.

Speaker 8 Great, great uniform matchup, but the Bengals.

Speaker 1 I'm worried about the Bengals. They have not looked good.
And it feels like it's a lot of play calling is what you can point point to. And

Speaker 1 they just haven't looked good. They have not looked like the Bengals from last year.

Speaker 5 I feel like they've looked

Speaker 5 on a sliding scale as a franchise.

Speaker 5 For a Bengals team, they've looked pretty good. Compared to last year, not so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But even on a sliding scale, have they looked good?

Speaker 1 What game have they looked good in?

Speaker 5 I'm saying like above average for a Bengals team. Right.
They were competitive. They've been competitive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've been competitive, but

Speaker 1 times have changed for them.

Speaker 5 I don't think they're a good team right now. No, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Okay, Hank, you're underdog.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 He's getting ready. He's done a lot of research.

Speaker 11 I have done a lot of research. I'm torn.
I just thought the Patriots. I guess I'm going to take the Patriots.
Yeah. It's ratty as fuck.

Speaker 11 But I'm going to eat the cheese. I'm going to get in that trap.
Get that cheese. Get out.

Speaker 1 Shock. Four kills.

Speaker 13 Two and a half against the Browns.

Speaker 1 So, Bill Belichick is about to be, he's one away from being the second all-time, tied for the second all-time for wins as a head coach.

Speaker 1 He's going to pass Don Shula eventually, but he's one away from George Hallis, and then he'll be about 23 away from all-time

Speaker 1 winningest coach in the NFL. Let me ask you.

Speaker 11 No better place to do it than Cleveland for this.

Speaker 5 That's true. So another revenge game right there.
If Bailey Zappi and Mac Jones switch names, where are we at?

Speaker 1 Is Mac Jones playing?

Speaker 1 Maybe? Maybe. Maybe? You don't want him to.

Speaker 1 You guys are so divisive. No, no.

Speaker 5 It's a simple question, though. Like, if Mac Jones was named Bailey Zappi, would you like him more?

Speaker 1 Slightly, yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, Zappy is a fun name. It's fun.

Speaker 1 If you were named Bailey Zappi, I would like you more. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. Yeah, I would like me too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 pro, your bet stat.

Speaker 1 Kevin Stavansky's 8-16 against the spread is a favorite in his career, worst in the league. So the Browns do not win games.

Speaker 11 And they don't play defense.

Speaker 9 And they don't play defense.

Speaker 11 I had them in the Hungry Dog last week watching them try and win that game was painful.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be one.

Speaker 11 This is a personal revenge game.

Speaker 1 This is a game where it's going to be like old school football: 200-plus rushing yards for each team. And I'm excited for that.

Speaker 11 Little. Should we put Chubb and Ramondre in the.

Speaker 1 Well, Ramondre's

Speaker 1 my pick. I was going to take Chubb.
All right, so there it is. So what's the Lamb Rushmore right now? Ramondre Stevenson, Nick Chubb.

Speaker 11 Saquon for me.

Speaker 1 Saquon and Billy and Jake.

Speaker 13 Joe Mixon.

Speaker 1 Joe Mixon. Okay.
That probably won't be the best odds, but we're, you know,

Speaker 1 we're hot right now. I feel like when we have money.
Yeah, whenever we add a quarterback is when the odds go crazy.

Speaker 1 Should we add Josh Allen?

Speaker 5 Should we do five?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Max, you want to add Josh Allen?

Speaker 18 I just don't like that there hasn't been Jalen Hurts as one of the quarterbacks yet this year, I will say.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do

Speaker 1 it anyway?

Speaker 1 We're just picking harder on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, we've won so many times already. I do think Josh Allen's going to run because this is a big game.
Do it them all. Should we add Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts? This could decide whether we win or lose.

Speaker 11 I mean, I feel like we all have picks. We got to let Max make his choice.

Speaker 1 Let's make it all six.

Speaker 5 Billy's doing the dark evil Kermit meme right now.

Speaker 1 Game log, Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 10 I'll do Josh Allen. He'll do Hurts.
And then all six of us have an individual pick.

Speaker 1 Do it. Stop whispering.
It's creepy.

Speaker 1 Spooky season. All right.
Yeah. You want to do it? You want to do six? Yeah, let's do it.
This is so stupid. Let's do it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are in there.

Speaker 9 Oh, can we get it boosted?

Speaker 1 Yeah, boosting

Speaker 1 Billy's face. That's kind of everywhere we've met.

Speaker 1 Billy is in his brain. He's thinking, like, oh, I'm just stealing right now.
This is going to be the easiest bet ever. We should put this in a sports book.
Yeah. Under exclusives.

Speaker 1 Wow. Good idea.
I'm hate to take this. Okay.

Speaker 1 Your underdog,

Speaker 5 Max. We've talked about it a lot.

Speaker 14 I do not understand why the Bengals are favored on the road in this game on Saints Plus too.

Speaker 14 All right.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm deciding between that and another pick, but that's, you know what? I'm going to fucking jump in your hole. I'm also on the Saints Plus too.
Get my hole. Get my hole.

Speaker 5 Dome is a tough place to play. I just...

Speaker 1 I don't think the Bengals are good. And it's maybe they'll figure it out.
But right now, I just don't think they're playing good football. Like, they don't look.
And nothing looks easy for them.

Speaker 1 Nothing. And even Joe Burrows said that.

Speaker 1 He was like, if teams are going to play the way they've been playing against us with like the cover two, like we're kind of, we can't do the things we want to do throwing deep shots all the time.

Speaker 5 Trey Hendrickson revenge game, too. Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm on that as well, PFT year under or underdog, sorry.

Speaker 5 My underdog, I'm taking the Dolphins at home. Plus three and a half.

Speaker 1 Some of us have it at three.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I have it at three as well. And I'm taking it for accountability purposes because I did.
I may have told the group that, hey, there's a chance that Tua gets cleared. That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 5 Multiple people told me that. Turns out he got cleared to practice.

Speaker 5 Probably not going to be playing in the game. I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's playing either.

Speaker 5 He's in concussion protocol for a concussion that might not have happened. Yeah.
As I understand it.

Speaker 8 It's really weird.

Speaker 5 If it's Teddy Bridgewater, my barometer is, did any of his teammates throw up when the injury happened?

Speaker 5 If it didn't, then it's not that serious.

Speaker 5 My other lean towards the Dolphins on this is they got rid of the ping-pong table in the locker room.

Speaker 5 So it wasn't the coach that did it. Nope.
Like how Sean McDermott, he took it away up in Buffalo a couple years ago, put it back in after the team started acting right. This was the players.

Speaker 5 The players had a players-only meeting, and they said, we're getting rid of the ping-pong table.

Speaker 1 And I want to say justice for the ping-pong table, it's not right what they've done here because Tyreek Hill a few weeks ago said about the ping pong table, it's good for the locker room and it enhances team camaraderie and it introduced some

Speaker 1 competitiveness to the team even when they weren't on the field.

Speaker 1 They lose two games. Now the ping pong, it's the ping pong table's fault? Well, I think that's not right.

Speaker 5 What probably happened was Tyreek Hill lost a game of ping pong. Yeah.
And maybe his teammate stepped over him and really immassively out of here. And he's like, we're getting rid of this.

Speaker 5 You know what?

Speaker 5 We're going to get rid of this entire room forever so that nobody can ever play ping pong in here again, despite the fact that so many people enjoyed watching our matchup against each other because I have the power to shut this room down interesting I think that's what Tyreek Hill did that sounds like a diabolical move it does is Tyreek Hill part of management

Speaker 1 pretty much yeah pretty much

Speaker 1 with the new contract he probably do that yeah what do you think Hank

Speaker 11 I mean, I think it's a smart move. They're football players.
They're paid to play football. They should be focused on football and winning games, not winning ping-pong matches.

Speaker 5 I do think that if you're interviewing for a job in like a real office environment, it is a red flag if they have a ping pong table. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And the guy that's giving you the tour is like, you know, we got that real work hard, play hard mentality.

Speaker 5 It's like, I'd rather work hard than go home.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd rather, yeah, right. Like the, we got beanbag chairs, we got ping pongs, and on a Friday, we have a keg.
It's like, I'd just rather go home and not be around my coworkers all the time.

Speaker 5 The very last thing I want to do on a Friday would be to drink with my boss.

Speaker 1 And stay longer at work.

Speaker 5 Hank tries to get me to do that all the time.

Speaker 1 It's very uncomfortable. You're my boss.
No, no. You guys are my boss.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I wanted to talk about the Vikings real quick. I know Vikings fans will get triggered and say, we just beat the Bears.

Speaker 1 That's good. My question is: are we sure the Vikings are good?

Speaker 9 Because we talked about the Packers.

Speaker 1 Are they good? We don't know. The Vikings wins are, they beat the Packers very soundly, week one.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 beat the Lions in a close game that they had to come back. They beat the Bears one possession game.
They beat the Saints in a close game.

Speaker 1 The only real good team they've played is they got absolutely curb stomped by the Eagles. Are we sure the Vikings are good?

Speaker 5 I don't think that we're sure they're good yet, but I don't think we're going to find out this weekend either.

Speaker 1 Okay, because it's just, it's, and I know the Connect the Dots game is always a tough one to play. Like, oh, you know, oh, they played this team.
They only beat this team.

Speaker 1 But 4-1, they're obviously in the driver's seat for a playoff spot in the NFC. I don't know if they're good.

Speaker 10 I've been actually talking to a lot of Vikings fans recently who've been trying to convince me they're good. And low-key, they're kind of efficient.

Speaker 1 okay but that but the fact that Vikings fans are reaching out to try to convince you they're good means they're not good I if you're good you don't have to you don't have to you don't have to tweet at billy football being like bro we're good I met these people in person okay are these it was a little easier to sway me are these kirk cousins fans because that's Kirk Cousins fan billy these are Kirk Cousins haters okay they hate Kirk Cousins but they think they've turned a corner this year there's just something different in the building I really do that's what I'm hearing I really do think that Kirk's a piece of shit for not letting us hate him yeah it's not right one of my favorite things to do, and he's just so fucking nice.

Speaker 5 It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 Completely disarmed us. Again, the Vikings might be good.
I'm just asking questions. This is what we do.
We ask questions.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're underdog, because I'm taking the Saints with Max.

Speaker 10 Also took the Patriots. I think Belichick just, Browns are one of those teams that he just beats.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
That actually is, that's perfect logic. They're just like, yeah.
But although he just beats every team, but yeah.

Speaker 5 But it's like, don't overthink it. It's the Patriots and the Browns.
Browns, right.

Speaker 1 Last week, a lot of people overthought that. It was the Patriots and the Lions.
Yep.

Speaker 8 Don't overthink it. Jake.

Speaker 13 I'm taking the Falcons plus five and a half at home against the 49ers, undefeated against the spread.

Speaker 1 5-0 against the spread. This team hangs around.
No,

Speaker 13 they arguably got robbed of a chance to win that game last week

Speaker 14 against Tampa Bay.

Speaker 13 They're right there, and they're at home, and they're getting nearly a touchdown.

Speaker 14 I like it.

Speaker 5 Are you concerned at all with the fact that the 49ers are staying on the East Coast this week?

Speaker 13 Ooh, because they just played Carolina.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they did the thing that they stayed out in West Virginia at the Greenbrier.

Speaker 1 Like it.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm not.
Camaraderie.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you guys were picking apart the Falcons' injuries last week, and it still worked out.

Speaker 1 Falcons are, they've kind of done the impossible.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for them to go 17-0 against the spread because they are the first team to start 5-0 against the spread and be under 500 in the last 40 years.

Speaker 1 Which it is hard because if you're covering spreads, you're usually blowing teams out. They're just barely losing to teams.

Speaker 5 They're just hanging in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're just sticking around.

Speaker 5 I'm just going to keep saying that the Falcons could be 5-0. Yeah.
And no matter what happens after this game, they could be 6-0.

Speaker 9 They could be 0-5.

Speaker 1 I like teams like that. Yep.
Yeah. Those teams excite me.
Hank, you're over.

Speaker 11 I'm taking the over in the Cowboys-Eagles game.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 11 Shootout.

Speaker 1 Ooh, Sunday night. Taylor Hurds

Speaker 11 running up and down the field. It's 42 points.

Speaker 11 Eagles defense overrated.

Speaker 11 Cowboys offense underrated.

Speaker 1 Okay. Shootout.
Shootout.

Speaker 5 Do you agree with that, Max, that the birds' defense is overrated?

Speaker 1 No, I disagree. Overrated.

Speaker 9 Shootout.

Speaker 5 Shootout.

Speaker 1 Nothing better than a Sunday night shootout.

Speaker 11 I take an alternate.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 50. Whoa.
Okay.

Speaker 14 Getting ballsy.

Speaker 5 You're just trying to talk yourself into liking the over more.

Speaker 11 I love the over. I don't need to talk myself into it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Max, you're over?

Speaker 18 My over is Niners Falcons over 44.5.

Speaker 1 Whoa, what was that noise?

Speaker 1 I feel the same way.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 5 The 49ers stayed out on the East Coast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They do have some banged up guys on their defense.

Speaker 5 That defense is going to be hitting, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do hit.

Speaker 5 Revenge game for Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 1 Yes, big-time revenge game. Your favorite over, PFT.

Speaker 5 My favorite over is Cardinals-Seahawks over 51.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 5 It's the Arizona Cardinals, how should we put it? They're DeAndre Moon, right? Hopkins is coming back next week. Yep.
So last game without him I'm gonna make uh

Speaker 1 I might also take an alternate over on this one this to me just screams shootout it does 51 points over and it's probably gonna be played at 530 right yes because the Mariners if the Mariners win they have to win one game in the next two games and they will push this to 530 start time which will be great it's great because there's no hour wait to football which is usually when we do a lot of work but that's okay yeah we'll just deal with that for the people it's good yeah for the people, it is matters most.

Speaker 1 Although,

Speaker 1 what I'm going to get everyone warned, you know, warn you for is that if it does start at 5:30, that means that at 4:25 or 4:15, there will be two games on. That will suck.
That'll stay.

Speaker 1 That will suck.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but one of them is Bill's Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's true. That's a good point, Jay.
That's true. All right, so speaking of which, that's my over.
I just have to take it. Yep.
I have to take it. 54.

Speaker 1 Also, my over. I have to just pay back my game of the year bet last year.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 I've just taken this over because I want it to happen. I'm rooting for it.
So why not?

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 10 This would be a great drinking game.

Speaker 1 Also, no one wanted to take Mahomes as an underdog at home. That's never happened before.
I was just crazy.

Speaker 5 I was thinking about going the other way and just hammering the Bills.

Speaker 11 They will be in the Hunger Dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Mahomes never been an underdog at home, and he's also 7-0-1 all-time as an underdog against the spread.

Speaker 1 This might be one of those games we look back and we're like, wait. Patrick Mahomes is an underdog at home.
How did everyone not hammer that?

Speaker 1 And I think the Bills are an incredible team, but it's just, again, it's almost like a principle thing. Patrick Mahomes, underdog at home.

Speaker 5 Doesn't this make so much sense, though, for the Bills to be amped up like this is their Super Bowl after what happened last year in the playoffs?

Speaker 13 I'm just gonna say Josh Allen's been thinking about this every Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But I think the Mahomes is...

Speaker 1 I think the Chiefs, they didn't win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 Right. Right, but they won this game.

Speaker 1 Correct. But they still

Speaker 1 didn't even win the AFC. Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 5 I'm saying that I think the Bills will, they've been thinking about this game like non-stop. It's been part of their entire identity this entire offseason.

Speaker 1 I just, I would feel better if it was the Chiefs went and won the Super Bowl, but the Chiefs know that they need home field advantage.

Speaker 1 Like, this game is going to probably decide who at the end of the year has home field advantage in the AFC.

Speaker 10 It's a fucking monster game.

Speaker 5 This game is going to be so electric. So electric.

Speaker 10 Josh was the most electric game last year. Best game probably ever seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 1 He has to pick Tails, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Josh, pick Tails.

Speaker 1 Get out there and pick Tails.

Speaker 5 This is very important. Tails is the play.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're over, and then we'll do finish up with unders. I'm with Hank.

Speaker 13 It's London Night Football, Dallas, Philadelphia, over 42.

Speaker 1 Wow, okay. I like that everyone's avoiding Monday Night Football, because it's going to suck.
Very cool. Russell Wilson.
Fuck you, dude.

Speaker 9 All right, you're under.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 11 My under following my theme of New York teams riding high. I'm taking the under in the Packers Jets.

Speaker 14 Packers

Speaker 11 are bad. Straight up bad.
They might lose this game outright.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 11 But I don't think there's going to be a lot of points scored.

Speaker 11 I would love for them to do that. I'm thinking like a 2017-17.

Speaker 1 I'm worried that the Packers are going to figure it out.

Speaker 1 19-17. I don't want to get ahead of myself.
I don't want to do the thing that I do every year where I'm like, oh, they're really bad. They suck.

Speaker 11 Well, their division's a joke, so it's easy for them to figure it out and make and win the division and get the playoffs, but I don't think they're good.

Speaker 5 Dude, you used to play the Bills, the Jets, and the Dolphins twice every year.

Speaker 1 That's true. When they were all awful.
Yeah, that's not false. That's just a joke.

Speaker 1 Okay, Max, your favorite under.

Speaker 11 Boy, we would win the Super Bowls. That's where the Packers win their division and then choke in the playoffs.
Yeah. Patriots would actually get it done.
Right.

Speaker 18 My under is Browns, Patriots.

Speaker 14 I think they may run the ball 100 times.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
43. Run, run, run.
Run some more. Although Stefansky is such an idiot.

Speaker 1 I feel like he just gets, he runs it, and then he's like, oh, shit, I got a pass so that it looks like I tried to pass a little. It's like, no, you should never pass.

Speaker 5 Jacoby Brissette is he's a good quarterback until the very end of every game. Correct.
Just don't let him pass in the last five minutes of a game. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 When the game's on the line, don't use him.

Speaker 1 You're under, PFT.

Speaker 8 My under 49 is Falcons.

Speaker 1 44 and a half. Okay.
I'll do Colts, Jaguars. We haven't talked about this game.

Speaker 9 I do think the Jaguars are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 The Colts suck.

Speaker 1 They suck.

Speaker 5 This is like official, official hot seat, though. If Frank Reich loses this game,

Speaker 5 I think he's fired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Colts also are on a 10-straight unders

Speaker 1 run right now, which is pretty crazy. That is why.
42 there.

Speaker 13 42. So I'm seeing 44.5 for San Francisco, Atlanta.
Okay. And then I'm seeing Dolphins three and a half, not three.

Speaker 1 Okay. So everything's on the well, he gave it out as three, so he's doing a

Speaker 1 personal responsibility.

Speaker 1 When I told you guys about it, it it was three he told us to hammer it right for every for our entire net worth i did not i said three yeah we're docking him half a point for that i'm joking that's the stew feiner text that i get every other day i get your whole net worth i i said i'm not a thousand percent but i'm taking it so i'm in the boat with you but you know and i'm not i the game hasn't been played so we can win this bet but you know it's if you text it it's it's bet yeah but in fairness bet in fairness to me i think i have a pretty good track record yeah the inside no i bet it right away this is one that i screwed up no i bet it right away Oh, Hank's maybe 44.

Speaker 13 I think it's a fourth Sam Fran Atlanta.

Speaker 14 Excuse me, Hank.

Speaker 5 Something you want to say?

Speaker 8 This is my co-host, Billy Zappi.

Speaker 1 Something you want to say to him?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think your track record is fine.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's better than most.

Speaker 11 Most who?

Speaker 5 Just most. Most people.

Speaker 1 Okay, then, yeah, yeah, fair.

Speaker 5 I've broken like a thousand, or excuse me, my dead dog has broken like a thousand times more stories than the average human being.

Speaker 11 That's fair. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hit rate?

Speaker 5 70%

Speaker 1 ish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Give or take.

Speaker 1 Just do like a man on that.

Speaker 5 It's pretty good for a dead dog.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, your favorite under Billy.

Speaker 10 I like the Cardinal Seahawks under 51.

Speaker 1 What we talked about earlier.

Speaker 5 That's a loser, Bill.

Speaker 1 I just feel like Gino Smith.

Speaker 1 Tyler Murray equals points.

Speaker 5 You know what, Bill? You're a hater.

Speaker 10 No, no, you know why? Because it's Geno Smith, I think, as a

Speaker 1 you mean him?

Speaker 10 Gino him?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Gino him, Smith.

Speaker 1 Gene him?

Speaker 10 I just think this is this is where we see, like, oh, like Mino Smith.

Speaker 10 Because, like, I don't know, as a Jets fan, I saw him play, like, so many times, and then it was just kind of like, everyone's like, oh, Gino's the guy.

Speaker 10 But now I'm kind of like, I think, I think, you know, party's over. I think people are going to figure him out.
They're going to game plan for him, and he's not going to put up the points.

Speaker 5 I think that's a hater bet.

Speaker 5 If you're rooting on the under in this game, which is going to be a stand, kind of a standalone 530 game between like the Seahawks that don't play any defense and they're really good on offense and then the Carter, you're a hater.

Speaker 1 It's also, you are now in your little honeymoon phase with Zach Wilson. Yeah.
Because whenever I think about an old Bears quarterback, I'm not like, that guy sucks.

Speaker 8 I'm like, the organization sucks.

Speaker 1 It's not Geno Smith's problem. It's the Jets' problem.
Right. So even if the quarterback does, in fact, suck, I never put the blame on the quarterback because I'm like, what are they going to do?

Speaker 1 They played for the Bears. True.

Speaker 5 But I just, I just,

Speaker 1 he thinks, you see that smile? He thinks he's definitely got a guy in Zach Wilson.

Speaker 5 You don't think that, You don't think Gino's him? You think he's still Geno SMH?

Speaker 10 Gino get punched in the face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's come on. Yep, that did happen.
Did. People need to remember that.
He ain't punched back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 14 So that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 13 I'm taking the Buccaneer Steelers under 43.5.

Speaker 13 23-9.

Speaker 1 Ooh, calling his shot by who?

Speaker 1 Tampa Bay. Oh, that would have been cool if it was Steelers.
I like that. 23-9.
Yeah, that's a good call. That feels like a good score.
Maybe a missed two-point conversion late is how you get it.

Speaker 1 Well, no, why would they do that? Or three field goals.

Speaker 5 So it's 70.

Speaker 13 They didn't kick it. Touchdown and a missed extra point on a field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe it's 20-3,

Speaker 1 and then the Steelers score, missed a two-point conversion to try to make it a... No, they wouldn't do that.

Speaker 14 Well, how are the vibes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy, would they get over two there? That's true.

Speaker 5 Vibe breakdown on

Speaker 1 Firefest. Okay.
All right. Any games you didn't hit? I think we hit them all.
I think we got something on on everything. I think so.

Speaker 5 Well, we didn't talk Monday, but we can talk about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 14 later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could talk about that never because Russell Wilson, he's going to bum us all out.

Speaker 5 Let's cry.

Speaker 1 We hit them all.

Speaker 8 We hit them all.

Speaker 1 First week of bye weeks, which always...

Speaker 1 It's sad. It is sad.
But it is nice, too, to get a break if your team stinks. I'm looking forward to the Bears bye week.
It'll be nice.

Speaker 1 Okay, Fantasy Fuck Boys. Then we're going to get into our interviews.
We got Scott Drew and then Bob Huggins.

Speaker 1 Don't dunno, don't, don't.

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Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 11 It was a different guy that was driving our car, the Pot in My Cheesesteak, Ka, NASCAR.

Speaker 11 But now he got a concussion, and it's going to be A.J. Elmendinger driving a cheesesteak on wheels.

Speaker 1 Wow. Pot in my cheesesteak.

Speaker 9 Give me the whiz with our guy.

Speaker 1 My sit him is Jamie Foxx.

Speaker 11 Yeah. He's an entertainer.
Used to be an A-lister. Now he can't even get into Cardi B's birthday party.
That's so embarrassing. So embarrassing.

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Speaker 11 And my sleeper is the big unit.

Speaker 1 Randy Johnson. Yeah.

Speaker 11 He was a hero of mine as a kid. Now he's doing photography for NFL teams, just living the dream.
He's killing birds.

Speaker 1 He's Carson Wentz.

Speaker 11 Love the big unit.

Speaker 1 Imagine being stuck behind him when you try to take a picture.

Speaker 1 Detoff. That was suck.

Speaker 11 Although you could probably just, you know, get around him to the right or left. He's not that fat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's pretty skinny. Oh, why'd you look at me? Okay.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up? This is Alex Jones.

Speaker 1 Alex Fuckboys? Yeah, Alex Fuckboy Jones.

Speaker 5 I'm looking through my documents right now.

Speaker 9 I'm starting the competition committee this week.

Speaker 1 There's documents proving the false flag allegations against defensive tackles. They're collapsing under their own body weight.

Speaker 1 Like, building, investigate building seven.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting Zion. Turned his ankle.
I'm sitting Zion Williamson. All the Zionists out there.

Speaker 1 All the Zionists out there. I'm sleeping myself.

Speaker 1 I'm sleeping myself

Speaker 1 because I'm a real piece of shit and I owe a bunch of people a billion dollars. They'll never get it because I'm only 985 mil.

Speaker 11 I'm broke.

Speaker 1 I'm a broke boy. I'm a broke boy piece of shit.
Infowars.com. All right, what's up, guys? It's Giuseppe Guadalupe.
My stardom is Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 1 I hope he stays on the Lakers all year long because it's three preseason games. He's already acting crazy, and everyone fucking hates his guts.
My cinem is Russell Wilson. He fucking sucks.

Speaker 1 He says Broncos Country Let's ride after a loss in front of the podium. What a loser.
And my sleeper is Russell Gage Because I just, I don't know, I wanted to go all Russells. All Russell's

Speaker 1 another one I know.

Speaker 11 Stardom Russell. Russell Brand.

Speaker 1 Russell Brand. Russell.
Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe.
Russell Athletics.

Speaker 1 Russell.

Speaker 1 Smaller.

Speaker 11 Jamarcus Russell.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Russell Peterson.

Speaker 1 Russell Peterson.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey. Russell Smith.
I got a joke.

Speaker 5 What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs underneath a pile of leaves?

Speaker 1 Russell. Yeah.
Yeah, that's funny. Russell.
How How are we doing, guys? It's also Alex Jones. And my stardom is super vit in vitality, male chili.
It gets you hard.

Speaker 1 The deep state doesn't want you to be hard. And my sitem is the global pedophile elite, drinking blood and making us all look like idiots.

Speaker 5 And my sleeper is me on the corner because I should have just been a homeless man yelling at random people, not into a microphone.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 11 Good to meet you how you do these without taking a breath. Good to meet you, Alex.

Speaker 1 Double Alex Jones on the pile of Jones. That's what we're all doing.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I thought we were doing. Oh.

Speaker 5 No, I just said I was going to do Alex Jones. Billy was like, Gonna go rogue.
Yeah, I like it, though, Billy. Yeah, you were good.

Speaker 1 Good Alex Jones. Good job, Billy.

Speaker 10 He's a piece of shit. Terrible person.
Bad. Terrible person.
Is he like the brokest dude ever?

Speaker 5 Negative $1 billion?

Speaker 1 It's got to be.

Speaker 14 Is anyone in broker?

Speaker 11 Yeah, the United States of America. Oh,

Speaker 10 that's not a dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, we kind of are. We're just a big fucking muscular dude.
Yeah, Uncle Sam is the brokest dude ever.

Speaker 1 That's actually a fact. That Russell Wilson clip that I somehow missed of him saying Bronco Country's Let's Ride after the loss on Thursday night.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Well, I think I figured out what happened with him because he did the Let's Ride commercial that everybody, or the whatever behind the scenes thing that the Broncos were shooting.

Speaker 5 And then that went viral because everyone was making fun of him because it was so sad. Then Russell's PR team was like, hey, you got to lean into this because everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 5 But I don't think that Russell understood that everybody was making fun of him when they were doing the Let's Ride. So now he's like, everybody loves the Let's Ride.

Speaker 1 I got to say it all the time and he almost kind of realized that it was stupid because his the let's ride was like as he was halfway out the door yeah but still

Speaker 1 that guy man i'm actually i'm i'm zagging on everyone being like this sucks that we have to watch the broncos i kind of want to watch russell wilson just continue to fail on prime time it's fun it's good theater at this point he's an interesting guy right he always gives you something to talk about right he's he's become uh fascinating to watch to me he's kind of similar to like the texas a m yell leader thing where everybody's like roasting it, but you got to have something like that that we can all laugh at.

Speaker 1 And you watch the whole video because you can't turn it off. Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interviews. We've got Scott Drew, Bob Huggins,

Speaker 1 two legendary Big 12 coaches in studio. Before we do that, PFT, quick word from one of our sponsors.

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Speaker 5 And now, here is Scott Drew.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, national champion, head coach of the Baylor Bears. It is Scott Drew.

Speaker 1 He's here on a mission for the Big 12 to spread awareness about the Big 12 is what I read. And I also saw in the press clippings, you're doing non-traditional sports media, which would be us.

Speaker 1 So how has the day gone? Have you done more traditional or non-traditional sports media?

Speaker 12 It kind of all goes together by the end of the day, right?

Speaker 12 I can tell you, though, excited to be here. And one thing that you might not know, but you probably watched that game when we beat Wisconsin.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 But one thing really cool after that game.

Speaker 1 Oh, he prepped you.

Speaker 12 After that game, we're back eating in the hotel. And Mark Vital says, hey, look at this.
Russell Wilson DM'd him, said you should consider being a tight end.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 12 because he had watched the game. So I said, Yeah, tell him, you know what, for 20 million, you'll consider it, right?

Speaker 12 Long story short, after the season, he goes to Russell's house, works out with them.

Speaker 12 Russell really took him under his wing, and then he spent two years on practice squads because of Russell and that game versus Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 So it's credit to me.

Speaker 12 There you go. So it all comes back to you.

Speaker 15 So there you go.

Speaker 1 So you were a little worried that Brad Davidson was getting hot.

Speaker 12 Hey, I love Brad. Brad's an unbelievable player and glad that he graduated after 18 years.

Speaker 1 I'm just happy that Wisconsin got part of

Speaker 1 the championship DVD. You know, when they look up Baylor and it's like the year they won the national title, there it is, second round.
I think you guys hit like 70% from the field that day.

Speaker 12 Well, one thing about Wisconsin, they're never going to beat themselves. So always really well coached.
And that was a great game and ended well for us.

Speaker 12 But really excited about Mark having a chance to explore the professional side thanks to Russell watching that game. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 That is very cool. I feel like we had a little run of tight ends that got, you know, they were pulling them from the basketball ranks for a while back in like the late 2000s.

Speaker 5 We've had fewer of those recently, fewer of the Jimmy Grahams, Antonio Gates of the world.

Speaker 12 Well, I got something else for you, PFT. What's that?

Speaker 1 You came prepared.

Speaker 12 I knew we arrived when an NFL scout came into our gym because we get NBA scouts all the time. But when an NFL scout came, he says, you know what? I've added you to the list.
I said, what do you mean?

Speaker 12 He goes, you have a pro player every couple of years, so I might as well just come over and check you out. So we had Mark Vital.
We had Rico Gathers. There was a tight end.

Speaker 12 Ish Wainwright, Ishmael Wainwright, is with the Suns now, but he played a year of football when he was done. Kendall Wright was in the NFL.
Levi Norwood.

Speaker 12 So that's five guys that, yeah, we put out pros in any sport.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, wait then.

Speaker 5 So where does that make you guys on the continuum of basketball school to football school?

Speaker 12 Well, you know, we are the winningest school in the country since 2011, football, men's, and women's basketball.

Speaker 1 What happened in 2010?

Speaker 12 I don't know. We weren't there.

Speaker 1 It's a very 2010 season. 2011.

Speaker 12 And it's not even close.

Speaker 1 We got 724 wins.

Speaker 12 The next highest is Notre Dame, 66 or 58 away from us.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 so Robert Griffin changed the future of Baylor. It's a beautiful game.

Speaker 12 I tell you what, we had an assistant coach, Matthew Driscoll. We were at the sidelines of the game, and he reminded me of this.
Freshman year, RG3 makes a move right by the sideline.

Speaker 12 We're getting beat pretty bad, but I said, that's a Heisman move. He's going to win the Heisman before he graduates.
And once he did, Coach Driscoll reminded me, you remember you called that out.

Speaker 12 But I mean, when you saw him play and some of the things he could do, I mean, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I recognize Heisman when I see it.

Speaker 1 That is interesting, though.

Speaker 5 Like, you could definitely claim to to be a basketball school because your basketball players go on to become great football players, too.

Speaker 5 Like, how many football players at Baylor have gone on to the NBA?

Speaker 1 Probably none.

Speaker 12 I think we're an all-athletic department.

Speaker 1 I'm a team guy.

Speaker 1 You're a sports town. There you go.
Baylor is a good school. There you go.
All on itself. So,

Speaker 1 you're, I mean, thank you for coming in here.

Speaker 1 I know you guys are, I do like the idea that the Big 12 is going out there and shaking hands and letting everyone know, hey, with all the conference realignment and everything that's going on, we're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 Has it been like,

Speaker 1 I think credit to you guys, you've kind of come together here. Has it been weird the last, I don't know, six months or so to watch all these dominoes fall and Oklahoma and Texas and then UCLA and USC?

Speaker 1 Have you guys had a moment where you're like, okay, I think we're through this for now and we can go forward with what we got?

Speaker 12 Well, like you said,

Speaker 12 the Big 12 being here, progressive.

Speaker 12 Brett Uramark is somebody that

Speaker 12 he doesn't sit still. He wants to make our league the best it can be.
And one thing that I know is I'm a basketball coach. I control the basketball part of things.

Speaker 12 And you look at our league the last nine years, six of those nine years, we've had the number one RPI or net rating. And I know PFT, you a numbers guy.
So last year we were 33.

Speaker 12 The next highest league was 57.

Speaker 12 Since 2002, 60%, six out of 10 of our teams, gone to the Final Four, more than any other league.

Speaker 12 And then back-to-back national champs and the only league to ever have three different teams in the national championship game in a row.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is impressive.

Speaker 5 That's an old school NFC East stat back in the early 90s when they were going like Giants, Cowboys, Redskins back-to-back-to-back. That's a mark of a deep league.

Speaker 5 So when you look together, when you look across the league and you look at there's some great coaches in this league, obviously.

Speaker 12 Keep talking, PFC. Let's go.

Speaker 1 I didn't mention you specifically.

Speaker 12 It don't matter who said the coaches. That's good.

Speaker 5 We've got Bob Huggins coming in in a second.

Speaker 1 Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 When you look across at all the coaches, is there a guy that you have that you just like beating more than you like beating the other coaches?

Speaker 12 Well, I think a big reason we've been really successful is we all do respect each other, and it takes all of us to have a great league. So Coach Self and I came in at the same time 20 years ago.

Speaker 12 I was able and blessed to learn from the Eddie Suttons, the Bob Knights, the Kelvin Sampsons, the Rick Barnes, the Tubby Smiths. And

Speaker 12 again, players want to play against the best. Coaches want to coach against the best.
Coach Huggins, we got two Hall of Fame coaches coaching right now. And

Speaker 12 Coach Huggins, you guys got any food in here?

Speaker 14 He's going to want to eat too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, make sure you got something.

Speaker 12 But he's a Hall of Famer for a good reason.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I love the path of your career just because you are the epitome

Speaker 1 of what is difficult about college coaching.

Speaker 1 I know you guys get paid a lot and it's a job a lot of people want, but you, for the longest time, until you won a national title and had all this success, you were the epitome of you recruit really well, and then if you don't have the results, everyone's like, well, he stinks at coaching.

Speaker 1 And then if you recruit bad, but you coach well, it's like, well, he stinks at recruiting. So that had to have bothered you at some point because clearly you do both very, very well.

Speaker 1 But like that, that path to get to the point where it all came together,

Speaker 1 was it tough when you're hearing that, you know, outside noise?

Speaker 12 Yeah, we like to say

Speaker 12 stay focused, don't listen to the outside noise, but we're all human. I mean, just like you guys, you want to hear people say they like your show, they like what you do,

Speaker 12 and coaches are the same way. We want to be appreciated and valued, respected, and that's that's a tough thing in our profession.

Speaker 12 If you don't win, it's either you recruit well and you can't coach, or you can coach, but you can't recruit well.

Speaker 12 And at the end of the day, we've been blessed to have great staffs, great players, and hence we've been able to, like us in Kansas, the only two Power Five programs since 2008 to win 18 or more a year and that's I mean you say 18 that's not a lot but that's how hard it is to consistently win you know and I mean I look at Wisconsin they've been so consistent and basketball and football be year in and year out it's hard yeah no they talk Wisconsin does recruit medium and play medium that's the way to do it because I think that's because it is it does suck when you get great recruits and you don't have the on-court results and everyone's like, well, I'd rather still have the great recruits, but people get upset about it and it's a very difficult job to like manage because the expectations go so crazy and they're 18-year-old kids.

Speaker 1 I would imagine that has to be the hardest part is like when you're at Allen Fieldhouse and you're, you know, down five, you know, with two minutes left and you look in the huddle and it's it's 18 year old kids and you're asking them to make big-time decisions and big time plays with all that pressure.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you, how do you get that or instill that confidence in them?

Speaker 12 Well, first, hopefully we got some 21 and 22 year olds mixed in in that hug.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 12 they come to Baylor because they fit and they fit spiritually, academically, cultural-wise. They want to go against the best.

Speaker 12 So, they want those moments, but they're human too. And our job is to serve them, to bring out the best in them.
I mean, you guys get done with the show, and you're like, we nailed it.

Speaker 12 You know, you know, when you do well. I mean, players, same thing.
They want to be able to know that they left it all on the table.

Speaker 12 And when things work out right and you get a big win on the road and it's hard. And when I first got to Baylor, Roy Williams said toughest league to win on the road.
You got to win your home games.

Speaker 12 And I think that's so true in the Big 12. I don't know why.

Speaker 12 Great players, coaches, environments. Every conference has that, but it is really hard to win on the road in the Big 12 and there's no feeling like when you get a road win.

Speaker 5 How do you balance that? You mentioned that it would be nice to have a couple 21 and 22 year olds that stick around. You've got a player that's going to go to the NBA.

Speaker 5 They're at the place where they could be drafted. Might not be a lottery pick, but they're certainly on their way to being a pro.
How do you balance their financial future with your desire?

Speaker 5 Because ultimately, you'd probably like to have the best players that you could have on your team.

Speaker 5 But, you know, you look down the line, you also want to be able to recruit players and say, hey, if it's in your financial interest, I'm going to tell you to go to the NBA.

Speaker 5 How do you balance those two? Great question.

Speaker 12 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Great question.

Speaker 12 Normally you love it when us and Gonzaga are the only two programs that have the back-to-back top 10 picks. You love it when you have a top 10 pick.

Speaker 12 Like last year was Jeremy Sohan for us, actually our sixth man, sixth leading scorer. So don't always think you've got to put up the numbers.
You got to play all the minutes.

Speaker 12 It's what you do well in the time you're given. But ninth pick in the draft, the year before, Davion Mitchell, ninth pick in the draft.
That's when it's a home run.

Speaker 12 Normally you say first round, you come out. Second round, you probably go back.
But if you're one of the top second rounders, usually you get guaranteed money. So

Speaker 12 we like them to just be lottery picks. That's what we want.
Last year we had two one-and-dunes. Kendall Brown went with the Pacers.
Hopefully he's going to have a great NBA career.

Speaker 12 Hopefully Jeremy has a great career with the Spurs. But that's the tough thing in college sports is you have to have talent and you have to have experience.
So

Speaker 12 to have three or four year players, usually if they're not playing early, they transfer out. And if they play a lot when they're young, they're probably pros and they're gone.

Speaker 12 So finding that mix is really in that balance. That's why you guys have a lot more hair and look a lot better than I do right now.

Speaker 1 It's still great. But it's still gray.

Speaker 1 I got a clock ticking over here. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you mentioned Gonzaga, and

Speaker 1 some in this office called it the most anticipated national title game of all time. It was a great game.
But my question to you is watching that game, it was so apparent.

Speaker 1 Pretty much like right from the jump that you guys, it was like a men versus boys kind of situation.

Speaker 1 I'm not taking anything away against Gonzaga, but your guys just looked physically more dominant and stronger.

Speaker 1 And like sometimes basketball really comes down to like who's got the broader shoulders and is taller down in the paint. When was the moment during that game where you're like, yeah, we got this?

Speaker 1 Like, I feel good.

Speaker 12 When the final horn went off?

Speaker 1 No, come on.

Speaker 1 Come on. There had to be a moment somewhere in the second half where you're like, yep, we're doing this.

Speaker 12 Well, I can tell you that there's a reason they were undefeated and ranked number one all year long. A tremendous team.
Coach Views, a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 12 So truly, I can tell you that coaches never feel like, and that's what makes college sports, look at our game versus North Carolina, biggest comeback in NCA history to force overtime.

Speaker 12 You really don't feel comfortable when they put in their subs at the end of the game with about two minutes to go. That's when I knew we had a championship.

Speaker 12 And I'm being honest with that because you want your players so focused on each and every possession and such an explosive team. You know, they can come back at any time.

Speaker 1 Nah, I don't buy it.

Speaker 1 I bet on Gonzaga in that game and I knew I was dead like five minutes. Five minutes in.

Speaker 12 When Wisconsin is up in the championship game,

Speaker 12 I promise you're going to be nervous to the end.

Speaker 1 Well, it happens. They were up in half and it's mean that you would do that because they lost.

Speaker 5 I'll ask this question for Big Cat because it tails nicely with that Wisconsin championship appearance.

Speaker 5 When the time comes for you to retire and it's time to hang it up and step away from Baylor,

Speaker 12 I want to come here and be full-time on this show. That's what I am.

Speaker 5 Basketball analysts, are you going to hypothetically take an entire year where you go around the country and you collect prizes and gifts and things like that, and then maybe lose in your conference championship game and do all this?

Speaker 1 Like Kansas? Yeah, lose.

Speaker 5 Yeah, maybe lose twice to Kansas

Speaker 5 and you're finally on senior night, maybe, something like that. Or are you going to just, when the time's come, you're just going to walk away?

Speaker 12 Hey, you know, in coaching,

Speaker 12 the stress, pressure, and everything that you deal with.

Speaker 12 One thing I can tell you, life is a blessing, and none of us can talk about what tomorrow may bring. So, like, we joke because we use thumbprints to get in our office.

Speaker 12 And after a loss, sometimes our thumbprint doesn't work, and you're like, we just got the ziggy, you know? So, so

Speaker 12 whenever the good Lord says it's time to hang it up, that will be the time to hang it up. Hopefully, the last game I coach is a game that we win because you always want to go out on top.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 12 And my dad was able to go out on his own accord and had the coach, had the four named after him, Hall of Fame coach. And at the end of the day, very few coaches are able to go out

Speaker 1 on their own timing.

Speaker 12 You want to be able to do that because you love the institution that you're at last. So I'm praying that it ends well wherever I finish because I want to have that feeling.

Speaker 1 Okay, so speaking of your family, do you think winning the national title, you finally have the more famous moment than your brother?

Speaker 5 Because I don't think so.

Speaker 12 No, my brothers, because

Speaker 1 that's kind of

Speaker 12 that 1998 moment.

Speaker 12 The only time where truly

Speaker 12 I lost it,

Speaker 12 he dove on the floor. Everyone jumped on top of him.
I was smart enough to know to wait to get on the top of that, not on the bottom.

Speaker 12 But for a moment, we all just jumped on the pile, and it was such an awesome feeling. Still one of the best memories in college athletics.

Speaker 1 They show it every March Madness, and it's got to probably, it doesn't hurt you, but it's got to be like, hey, he does have that over me forever. Like, one of the most iconic March Madness shows.

Speaker 12 Well, you know, you know, when people call me Bryce and I sign his name, it's just, it is what it is, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Actually, could you sign this ball, Bryce? I'd rather have his on the left.

Speaker 5 The ball that you brought in is very orange. The balls got oranger last year, didn't they?

Speaker 1 Yeah, these are the new balls.

Speaker 12 Maybe so shades you have. Who sponsor you know?

Speaker 5 I can tell the shady Rays use promo code take at 50% off, two or more pairs of polarized sunglasses.

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 5 But I did notice that the ball has got a little bit more orange last year, and the bright colors remind me that I wanted to ask you about your bright uniforms that you wear sometimes because we're dumb.

Speaker 5 We're dumb sports fans. We watch at home and we see the neon green and we think, oh, that looks cool.
They look faster. They look like they can jump higher in the neon uniforms.

Speaker 5 Do you do any actual grading of how the referees treat you based on how flashy your uniforms are?

Speaker 12 No, but I can tell you that I thought it helped us with our turnovers for a short period of time there because we always knew where each other was on the court.

Speaker 12 But we were actually the first school to have that neon, and I know the players loved it. And look good, feel good, play good, and if it helps with turnovers, great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if you had to pick one attribute a basketball player could have, what would you pick? One guy. Like the guy has this.
You know you can figure out everything else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, one.

Speaker 12 Okay, so assuming they have some athletic talent.

Speaker 1 They have athletic talent. They're raw.
They're as raw as could be, but they do one thing elite. What is the one thing elite you want?

Speaker 12 I think it's something a lot of coaches wish more players had nowadays, and that's a motor.

Speaker 12 And if a guy really plays hard, competes every possession, they're going to get better. It's the ones that don't compete hard enough all the time to make the mistakes, to get better.

Speaker 12 And there's a lot of players that aren't great athletes or great skill level, but they play so hard, good things happen.

Speaker 1 Okay, you could have said shooting, but yeah, I like that answer.

Speaker 12 Well, we have shooting right now, so I'm going to say my guy.

Speaker 1 No, it's a good answer because it is, you know, you do see it a lot, especially in college sports, where there's one guy out there who is just working harder than everyone, and usually the ball finds him, usually plays bounce their way, and you can like, it jumps out on the screen when it's someone who's just using that extra bit to to get up and down the court or box out.

Speaker 1 I love those guys, the high motor guys. They're the best.

Speaker 1 I tell you,

Speaker 16 you like

Speaker 1 the box out guys. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Big cat pretty big.

Speaker 1 He likes those guys with motors. I do, I do.

Speaker 1 Get a lot of shine.

Speaker 5 This is actually kind of a serious question.

Speaker 5 We usually just keep things pretty light. You brought it up earlier about fitting in spiritually at Baylor is something that you look for.
Obviously, your faith is very important to you.

Speaker 1 I've been praying for you guys. Oh, thank you.
I need someone. Yeah,

Speaker 1 guess what? My gambling picks haven't been better, so pray a little. Pray a little more.
I got you. Bless your heart is what I always like to say.
So

Speaker 5 it's something that's important to Baylor. Obviously, it's a faith-based institution in its own way.

Speaker 5 When you recruit somebody...

Speaker 5 if they don't subscribe to your particular brand of Christianity, is that actually something that you take into account when you're recruiting somebody for Baylor?

Speaker 12 Great question. So the first recruit that we had there was Mamadou Jean, who had a Muslim background.
And we've had people that have come from all different denominations, different faiths.

Speaker 12 The big thing is Baylor is the largest Baptist school in the nation.

Speaker 12 So we are going to pray with their guys, and we want them to know how we run our program and make sure they don't feel uncomfortable because we don't want them to feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 12 And there's other programs where they might feel more comfortable. comfortable at the same time.
This is what we do and how we do it. And if you want to be a part of it, we all sin.

Speaker 12 We're all saved through grace and faith. So

Speaker 12 if someone wants to grow spiritually, if they want to grow academically, and if they fit our character,

Speaker 12 we have a Baylor-Built program to help with that, prepare them for life after basketball, filling out a resume, how to do interviews, whatnot. That's what I love about college.

Speaker 12 That's what I love about Baylor. All three of my kids were born in Waco, Texas, and it's a great family atmosphere.
Our former players come back.

Speaker 12 We just took our team to see Jeremy Soana in his first start.

Speaker 12 He got the assignment to Garden Zion. But I mean, like, that's what we brought him his championship ring from last year.

Speaker 12 But I love that. Like, there's nothing better than when our past players come back in the summer.

Speaker 5 It's a good answer. So if there's like a five-star atheist, you're like, hey, we'd love to have you come play basketball, but just know we're going to be praying a lot if you don't like that.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because we wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable. Right.
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's fair. Yeah.
I like that answer. So less serious question.
A little birdie told me

Speaker 1 at one point in your coaching career, Bob Knight might have given you a talking to in a bathroom about negative recruiting. Is that true?

Speaker 12 Coach Knight's talked to a lot of people during his career.

Speaker 12 But one thing about Coach Knight is

Speaker 12 he's always going to say what's on his mind, and you respect that.

Speaker 12 But in a bathroom.

Speaker 1 So tell us, did it happen? He just saw you in the bathroom?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 12 obviously, when you're in the bathroom, you can't go anywhere until you're done, right? So you're going to listen.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 12 yeah, he did talk to me in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 5 were you currently at a stall when this was happening?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I was at a stall.

Speaker 1 He got you. He got you.

Speaker 15 He got you.

Speaker 12 I think he was in a stall too, though.

Speaker 1 So it ended when both of us were done.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 That's a great point. You can't run away.

Speaker 5 Can you pitch us? Act like we're two five-star recruits right now. Like I'm a scrappy little point guard.
He's

Speaker 1 a center, yeah.

Speaker 5 I'll be a defensive specialist.

Speaker 5 And we're a package deal. So you're in our living room right now.

Speaker 12 So do you have eligibility? Because if you do, then I'll come with it a little harder.

Speaker 1 Yeah, max eligibility.

Speaker 1 Tons of eligibility.

Speaker 5 I got really bad grades in college, so I'm sure that I have.

Speaker 12 Well, I mean, first of all, we've talked about it, the league, the Big 12, if you want to play in the best league.

Speaker 12 And then basketball-wise, in the last three years, we're the winningest Power Five program in the country. Three years in a row, we've been ranked number one back-to-back lottery picks.

Speaker 12 We've had 17 pros during our staff's time at Baylor. And if you like preparing champions for life, you want to be a part of a family, this is a school for you.

Speaker 12 And we really have a culture of a bunch of hard workers, high-character guys. Iron sharpens iron.
If we have a room full of us four and you three are in the gym, I'm going to be in the gym.

Speaker 12 If you three are at parties, I'm going to probably be at a party. So we want guys that they want to get to the NBA, they're going to have to be in the gym.

Speaker 12 So we want a culture of guys that really want to work and are dedicated on and off the court because if you're not in the gym, hopefully you're studying to stay eligible and get the degree.

Speaker 12 But that's really been our culture. It's been why people have come in with zero-star ratings.
I mean, my favorite one was Freddie Gillespie. He

Speaker 1 played four...

Speaker 12 averaged four minutes a game and had four points total at Carlton College, Division III school in Minnesota.

Speaker 12 He walks on at Baylor, ends up starting, and then from Baylor, plays 20 games for the Raptors.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 5 You could have just said neon jerseys, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could have that. Also, do we have to run suicides?

Speaker 12 We have neon jerseys for you.

Speaker 1 Do we have to run suicide?

Speaker 8 Only if you turn it over.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that. I want to be an NFL tight end.

Speaker 5 Is your school the correct place for me to play basketball?

Speaker 12 Yeah, we can do that too.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 12 Although, I will tell you, the first tight end we ever had come over,

Speaker 12 he came over, and after two or three zigzags, he stops,

Speaker 12 gets a big hawker, and spits it on the court like, we're not on the field.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. You can't be doing that.
You know, I mean, what's going on? Hank. Yeah, that's, yeah, you can't.

Speaker 12 We had to break that down to him.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right, so, Coach, I had one last question for you. This has been awesome.
We appreciate you coming by.

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Speaker 1 Is that the question? No, no,

Speaker 1 that's the ad. I want to actually say thank you.

Speaker 1 You respect the media.

Speaker 1 So I remember I found a tweet that after the

Speaker 1 bubble tournament, the tweet says Scott Drew just came over and personally thanked the media for its coverage. So we would like to say

Speaker 1 you're welcome for saying thank you to us because we were part of the coverage. We weren't in the bubble.
But thank you.

Speaker 12 Well, thank you guys. No, thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you to you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you for thanking us.
Yes, yes, yes. So you don't hate the media.

Speaker 12 That's nice. No, no.

Speaker 12 You guys have a job to do, but

Speaker 1 you got a job to do.

Speaker 12 We got a job to do, too.

Speaker 12 And to be honest,

Speaker 12 I mean, we have so much in common.

Speaker 1 I mean, we love sports. Yeah, we love sports.

Speaker 12 And so who doesn't love talking about sports? And the one thing that,

Speaker 12 honestly, I felt bad for a team that won it all is. The media is such a big part of that Final Four experience.

Speaker 12 And it was great that those that were able to cover it and how they covered it, but I wish they'd have had a chance to have all the face and interactions because, I mean, that's all part of the memory as well.

Speaker 12 And again, we wouldn't have sports without what you guys do. So we're on the same page.

Speaker 1 You're right around here. You're right.

Speaker 1 We pay your bills. We're more important than even the players are, I think.
No, that's right. That's a good answer.

Speaker 5 If you really want to get some buzz going, I know you're not a negative guy, but

Speaker 1 I would disagree.

Speaker 5 If I could give you some advice on how to generate some good buzz for the Big 12 in this media blitz.

Speaker 12 They told me to take my shirt off here and we were good.

Speaker 16 I said, I would say that for Hugs.

Speaker 1 I would just say.

Speaker 12 By the way, do you have some sunglasses for Big Cat if Hugs takes the shirt off? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to puke. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I was just going to say you could say that Oklahoma and Texas are scared for leaving the Big 12. Like they don't want to smoke in the future.
They are scared.

Speaker 5 They're trying to get away from you guys and move to the other, taking the easy way out. I would say that.
Would you say that?

Speaker 12 I like you. You keep talking.
You're disagreeable.

Speaker 1 I would also say that. I would also say that.
Big Cat said that.

Speaker 5 I noticed you were. I'll double that.

Speaker 1 You're not disagreeing.

Speaker 12 Our league is going to be great moving forward.

Speaker 12 I will personally miss the rivalries we've had. They've had great coaches, great players, a lot of respect for their institutions.

Speaker 12 And we wish them the best of luck in the SEC. But we know where the Big 12 is heading.
And just like your show's heading to the top, we're going right there, too. And they're cowards.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Quotes, make sure you write that. Jake, Scott Drew said, Texas, Oklahoma are cowards.

Speaker 1 But it might have been Big Cat that said that.

Speaker 5 I would like it noted also that he made sure to specify they've had great players and great coaches at those two schools, but he did not say great teams at those championships without rings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1 Interesting. This is how you get buzz going.
Good buzz. We'll just manufacture it.
You're not going to be thanking the media after this interview.

Speaker 1 All right, coach, thank you so much, though. We really appreciate you stopping by and best of luck this year.

Speaker 12 Well, thanks for all you guys do. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 13 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend, recurring guest, coach of West Virginia Mountaineers basketball. It is Bob Huggins, the legend Hall of Famer.
Are you officially in the Hall of Famer?

Speaker 1 Have they announced it yet?

Speaker 21 They haven't taken away my pen yet.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're the definition of a Hall of Fame coach through and through. Well, thank you.
And a guy that we love.

Speaker 21 Well, I appreciate all that.

Speaker 1 And you look skinny.

Speaker 21 Now you're lying. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 You caught me in that one.

Speaker 5 You had the Fitbit on?

Speaker 21 Do I have a Fitbit on? I don't know what it is. My wife got it for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we had a theory that you just had the Fitbit and you'd put it on your players for practice, and you'd come home and be like, look.

Speaker 21 Nope, but that's a hell of an idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just gave you a gut.

Speaker 8 That one's for for free.

Speaker 21 That's a great idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, look, honey, I ran five miles today because you have that treadmill.

Speaker 21 So I thought putting it on a dog's collar worked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. This is,

Speaker 8 I gave you the best idea.

Speaker 1 So, how you guys have been going around doing the media? I'd have to imagine this is not your favorite day of the year.

Speaker 1 You'd probably rather be hanging out at your house, just sitting on your couch than going around and talking to media all day.

Speaker 21 Well, put it this way: I've had a lot more fun numerous other times than today.

Speaker 1 That's fair. That's absolutely fair.
That's absolutely fair.

Speaker 5 Is there any small part of you that enjoys beating the drum for the Big 12?

Speaker 5 Do you have any confidence pride at all? Or is it like you're doing what you're doing at West Virginia, and you're happy to continue focusing on that?

Speaker 21 No, I've got a lot of confidence pride.

Speaker 21 When you look at the numbers, they're astounding. Because I had no idea.

Speaker 21 I went to Kansas State for a year and loved it there, loved the people. People treated me like a king.
I loved it there. But

Speaker 21 at the end of the day, I knew nothing about the Big 12. And my first trip

Speaker 21 was the coaches' meeting, and that was when

Speaker 21 one of the guys filed one of Coach Knight's guys and broke his nose or something, and the coach went off.

Speaker 21 And I'm sitting there like, wow, I like this a lot better. Yeah.
You know, it's kind of, this gets stirred up a little.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, yeah. yeah.

Speaker 1 What about your former school coming to the Big 12?

Speaker 8 Because that's what happened in a couple years.

Speaker 1 Cincinnati will be in the Big 12.

Speaker 1 Are you ready for that every year, home and away?

Speaker 21 I don't have any choice, do I?

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Well, you could just not show up the last week.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I know, but the last time I checked, they didn't let me vote on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That is true.

Speaker 21 You should get a vote. You should.
I didn't get one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Have you been back to Cincinnati as a coach?

Speaker 21 I was back last, I believe it was last Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 21 They brought back Wes. Wes is a great guy.
You've got to have Wes on here. He's a great guy.
Wes brought back all of my former guys and their wives.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 21 I don't know if they brought back children or not, but he did an unbelievable job. Brought all of those final four guys back.

Speaker 21 They lined everybody up on a 20-yard line in the second quarter. I think it was the second quarter.
And the ovation from the fans was absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 That's got to feel nice to know that you're loved in many different parts of the country and places that you had an impact on.

Speaker 21 Well,

Speaker 21 I think they love that group. Yeah.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 21 anytime you go to Final Four, it's special.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 21 especially when you haven't done it for as long as they hadn't done it for, I think the last time was Oscar and the crew.

Speaker 5 Is there a part of the country where they don't like Bob Huggins?

Speaker 21 I haven't found it yet.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I think you're universally loved.

Speaker 21 Isn't that something? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, the only people that I think say bad things about you are your opponents after you beat them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, generally.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that does happen.

Speaker 1 So we were, when this was presented to us, and it was like, hey, Big 12 coaches are coming through. We're like, oh, yeah, obviously we want Huggy Barrett back on the show.

Speaker 1 And Bill Self was supposed to come with you guys.

Speaker 8 I think he dipped out last second.

Speaker 1 Do you think it was because he saw us on the list and was like, these guys are definitely going to ask about my toupee? Could be.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's.

Speaker 21 I mean, I've always asked about it.

Speaker 1 And what did he say?

Speaker 21 He just says, you know, gives me

Speaker 21 the whole wave off.

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it when, like, a Kansas, because obviously they're a rival and you play against them, but when it does come to tourney time and you're watching the Final Four, are you rooting for your conference for Conference Pride?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, because that's always a weird thing that you got to switch your brain.

Speaker 21 Bill and I actually are friends. Right.
So, you know,

Speaker 21 we get along great. We've got along since I was at K-State.
Yeah. And,

Speaker 21 I mean, he messes with me and I mess with him and we kind of enjoy it. And

Speaker 21 then when a game starts, you got another

Speaker 21 whatever it is they put in there. It seems like...

Speaker 21 20,000, but it's probably not quite that many. Yeah.
And they're yelling, screaming, calling you names and

Speaker 21 just acting fools.

Speaker 5 Is that the toughest place to play?

Speaker 21 Yeah, because, you know,

Speaker 21 I got to watch what I say because if I tell the truth, then I'll get accused of something that I won't really mean.

Speaker 1 The referees there are kind of, you know.

Speaker 1 What did it mean? I said it. I said it.
Coach didn't say it.

Speaker 8 I said it.

Speaker 21 Tough place to play.

Speaker 8 You know, they pump in noise.

Speaker 21 Oh, my God. And, you know, and it's an old building, so it just reverberates and you can't, you know, you try to call timeout and talk to your guys and they know when you're calling time.

Speaker 21 They don't do it when he calls timeout. Interesting.
But when we have time out and you just, you can't hear a thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Have you had to have any talks with your players over the years about not doing the horns down sign when you play against Texas? Is that a coaching point for you?

Speaker 21 That doesn't bother me at all.

Speaker 5 But can it be like a technical foul?

Speaker 21 You know, I don't know.

Speaker 21 They tried to do something about it in football,

Speaker 21 but I haven't heard anything about it in basketball, and

Speaker 21 they're gone now.

Speaker 5 Some would say that they're cowards for leaving the Big 12.

Speaker 21 Well, I don't think Chris had anything to do with it, so

Speaker 21 you can't blame Chris.

Speaker 21 That was well above Chris's head.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
But they're cowards. I will say it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, their administration.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll say it. They're ducking you.

Speaker 1 What about, you know, I think the one thing with a guy like you who's had success through so many different eras, like adapting to the change in college sports.

Speaker 1 Have you, I would imagine you're very pro-NIL and the kids being able to make money because

Speaker 1 you've always been able to adapt to different styles and how the game has evolved. Is that fair? That's fair.

Speaker 21 That's fair, but you're talking to a guy who got $10 a month and had to stand in line to get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 That's what we got. You know,

Speaker 21 now guys are making all that money and

Speaker 21 they got cars.

Speaker 21 You know, the best thing about them getting cars, they don't ask to borrow mine anymore. Yeah, that's true.
They got their own. Yeah.

Speaker 21 So, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 21 it's a different world.

Speaker 21 It's a totally different world, but it's not bad. And, I mean, let's face it, there have been changes, I mean,

Speaker 21 throughout our lifetimes that people said, oh, well, that'll never last or that'll never work. And then all of a sudden, somebody walks out of there with about $100 million or something.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You can either try to fight the change or you can try to adapt with it and be the best at it. That's right.
Those are kind of your options.

Speaker 5 How are kids doing these days with the running, with the sprinting? I know you love those treadmills.

Speaker 5 You saw the legendary treadmills next to the practice floor. Do kids not want to run anymore?

Speaker 5 How do you get a player to buy in and be like, okay, I guess I have to put in my work?

Speaker 21 Well, you know, our first whatever week or so forth, I didn't, you know, and

Speaker 21 we counted turnovers. I think we turned it over 27 times

Speaker 21 the first practice.

Speaker 21 And then they got it all the the way down to 24 i think and that was about all i could take so i said after practice you know how y'all huddle up and you know you're supposed to give them that great word of encouragement i said listen the next time you guys turn it over uh

Speaker 21 24 times or more we're all gonna run

Speaker 21 So I said all like I was going to, but

Speaker 1 yeah, no chance.

Speaker 21 No, there wasn't any chance.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 21 I just had them run sprints and then we put them on a treadmill.

Speaker 5 Oh, nice. After the sprints,

Speaker 5 have you ever... What would it take for you to get on the treadmill with a team?

Speaker 21 Money-wise?

Speaker 5 Money-wise, or like if you win in the middle of the day?

Speaker 21 Probably more than you get.

Speaker 1 If you get to the Final Four.

Speaker 5 Final Four, where you get on the treadmill.

Speaker 1 If you get to the Final Four, you're on the treadmill. Run away.

Speaker 21 I'm not going to run. I mean, I'll get on there and jog a little bit.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Not for a Final Four?

Speaker 21 Oh, Final Four is given.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you'd have to get on there for a Final Four. I mean, I do love, like, college basketball.

Speaker 1 You mentioned it with Cincinnati, but, like, getting to a Final Four is an accomplishment, and it feels like, you know, the fans remember that forever.

Speaker 21 Yeah, but you know what? I mean, some people are lucky, too.

Speaker 21 I mean, let's face it, I had the best team in America. I had a number one pick in the draft.
I had a number, what was he, three or four pick in the draft. I had another first-round pick.

Speaker 21 I had another 6'9

Speaker 21 who

Speaker 21 ended up playing in the NBA. I had another guard who ended up playing in the NBA and all on one team.
All on one team. And

Speaker 21 Kenyon broke his leg.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, and that is still like such a big what-if in college basketball history because you guys were that good.

Speaker 21 He was setting the screen, and

Speaker 21 the guy fell into him and broke his leg. Yeah.
But you know what's really amazing to me, and

Speaker 21 I've talked to him about this.

Speaker 21 It blows my mind that a guy like him could break his leg

Speaker 21 and come back and play 11 years in the NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And be the type of player that he is, which is just an explosive, explosive athlete.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I'll bet you nobody's ever done that in the history of sports. Yeah.
With a broken leg and come back and, I mean, that's a lot of running.

Speaker 21 That's a lot of jumping and pounding when you think about it.

Speaker 21 He's an incredible guy.

Speaker 5 I think Kenyon Martin is probably the definition of a guy that's got that dog in him.

Speaker 5 Like, when he came on campus, could you tell tell from the second he started practicing this guy's built different?

Speaker 21 Well, here's something to prove. And we had some big, strong, tough guys now.
He don't run from nobody.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You created a culture at Cincinnati that I still, there's some college teams that it's like, even if the coach hasn't been there in what it's been, like over a decade, decade plus, 15 years, whatever it's been, I still think of Cincinnati and I think of like they just rebound the hell out of the ball.

Speaker 1 Maybe not the best shooters all the time, but they'll just play you tough no matter what.

Speaker 21 We just missed those on purpose.

Speaker 21 So the rebounding stats kind of ballooned.

Speaker 1 But it's like, it's like Chip Kelly at Oregon.

Speaker 1 Like, I still think of Oregon as like this fast-paced Chip Kelly instilled that you are that for Cincinnati, where I could watch a Cincinnati game in 20 years and I'd be like, well, I know they're going to rebound.

Speaker 1 I know they're going to play hard. That's Bob Huggins.

Speaker 21 Without a question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Without a question. But I mean, fellas, let's face it, athletically, I had guys nobody else had.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I mean, Mel Levitt with a 40-some-inch vertical jump.

Speaker 21 He said, can I jump over a car? And I'm like, what?

Speaker 21 Midnight madness. He says, I want to jump over a car.

Speaker 21 What the hell do you want to jump over a car for? He says, oh, don't go crazy. Don't go absolutely crazy.
I said, all right, go ahead.

Speaker 21 He jumps over a car, swings on a rim, swings himself around like he's, you know, just came off of a, what do they call it, tramboline? Not trampoline. I

Speaker 21 think it's swing.

Speaker 21 He comes off of there and lands right in the driver's seat, starts the car, drives it out of the building.

Speaker 1 That's special.

Speaker 5 It's incredible.

Speaker 1 I wish we had, I wonder if we could find video of that.

Speaker 5 How did he practice that?

Speaker 21 How did he practice then? Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, how did he practice like dunking into a car? I feel like that's something that you have to just do one time.

Speaker 21 I got no idea.

Speaker 1 That's incredible.

Speaker 5 He just came to you and said, I want to jump over a car. I can't even imagine how athletic you'd have to be to pull that off.

Speaker 21 Well, I sent him down. I sent him down.

Speaker 21 All the pro scouts are in, football guys are in. So I sent him down there.
I said, can he just run? I just want you to, you know, I want to see how fast he can run.

Speaker 21 The guy said, yeah, he can run with the guy. So he runs like a sub-four.

Speaker 21 He was six foot four,

Speaker 21 probably 215 pounds, maybe a little bit more. They went in and did his vertical.
The guy said, we've never seen anybody jump like this.

Speaker 21 He said,

Speaker 21 did he play? I said, he played football in high school. They said, wow.
So he said, did you talk to him about playing football? I said, I haven't, but I will.

Speaker 21 I said, Mel, you're going to be a first-round draft pick. With your numbers, you're going to be a first-round draft pick.
You play football. He said, I ain't playing no football.
That hurts.

Speaker 21 He said, I'm going to the NBA coach.

Speaker 21 I don't need that.

Speaker 1 what what a guy like that or even a kenyon martin or you know any you can list anyone you've coached you know in your career when they have that type of raw talent like what do you do you get out of the way and you're like just just go out there and play because you're so incredible or is there something that you specifically try to give them that's like a tool like hey this is what you got to do better to take it to the next level

Speaker 21 Well, yeah,

Speaker 21 you try to help them go to the next level. Like, we played Oakland and Greg Campi's a very dear friend, but his whole goal was not to to let us get a rebound.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 So he put five guys in the lane. Well, Mel's standing wide open in the corner.
So he makes like 11 threes or something like that. I'm thinking we could trick the NBA guys with this now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Send them the tape. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Hey, look, he made 11 straight

Speaker 1 threes. Yeah.
He's a shooter. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Shoot first. Not only can he jump, but he did get drafted.
He got drafted by Detroit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I love your defenses that do, what do you call it, like the ghost press?

Speaker 5 The little fake press that you put on them?

Speaker 1 Simulated times?

Speaker 5 Can you walk me through, one, why you guys do simulated pressure, not actual pressure?

Speaker 5 And two, I've been trying to figure out why the NBA, why no coaches ever use any sort of a full court press at that level, if not just in very, you know, in limited use, as just one tool in their bag.

Speaker 21 Probably because they play 100 games.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 That probably has something to do with it.

Speaker 5 Get exhausting trying to do that.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 No, I mean,

Speaker 21 you can't line up and do the same thing time after time after time after time and not think that pretty soon they'll figure out something.

Speaker 21 So I think when you when you run a

Speaker 21 ghost press and

Speaker 21 you do

Speaker 21 different things,

Speaker 21 it makes them think about the different things and so they're not as keyed in on the thing that you do the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense. I want to say, by the way, way, a belated thank you for having Dave's back with Roger Goodell.
That was, you were very vocal.

Speaker 1 For people who don't remember, Dave, our boss, won a charity auction to go watch a game with Roger Goodell in his basement.

Speaker 1 They pulled it, and you were like at the forefront being like, this isn't right. You have to.

Speaker 1 Did you, I mean, I feel like you got to know at least someone who knows Roger Goodell. We got to get him on the phone and be like, hey, listen.

Speaker 21 I'm not a football guy.

Speaker 1 Not at all?

Speaker 21 Well, I like football. I played football in high school, but I'm not a, I'm not a.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got to find a way to, because that was, it was very funny that Bob Huggins out of the clouds was like, we got to stand up to this injustice.

Speaker 21 Yeah, but you guys, you got enough, you got enough guys, NFL guys or former NFL guys that are on radio now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the trick is the NFL guys, they've, they've been compromised by Roger Goodell to some extent in the past.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, they've got a relationship that they have to maintain there.

Speaker 1 It would be great if, like, the day you do retire, and and I hope it's, you know, you coach for a very long time that you're like, I'm retiring and now I'm going to just work full-time on getting Dave into Roger Goodell's basement.

Speaker 21 Yeah,

Speaker 21 I'll work on getting both of us in. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 21 I wouldn't mind going in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's got a nice chair.
Why not? Why not? Watch a little ball.

Speaker 21 A little bit I've seen on TV. It looks pretty comfortable.
He does.

Speaker 5 $35 million a year, not bad.

Speaker 1 Is there.

Speaker 1 I hate to talk about retirement, but is there a time, like, are you thinking about, you know, maybe in five years, ten years, whatever?

Speaker 21 I don't have a timeline.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 21 I don't,

Speaker 21 I don't know. I don't think about those things.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 I mean, honestly, I don't. I don't think about those things.
People ask me, like, how long you've been coaching? I have absolutely no idea.

Speaker 21 I don't keep track of those things.

Speaker 1 Did you know when you were approaching, was it 900 wins?

Speaker 21 You had to have known that. I didn't.
I couldn't help but know it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were just talking about it all the time.

Speaker 21 Well, I mean, everybody in six states told told me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 21 You know,

Speaker 21 you're going to get 900 wins.

Speaker 21 No, I didn't really pay attention.

Speaker 1 I like that. That's a great style to have.

Speaker 5 You said when you passed Roy Williams, I'm not going to quit until I beat Roy in something.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 5 And so that was one of your big marks. So this year,

Speaker 5 what's success like?

Speaker 1 What are your goals?

Speaker 21 Win them all.

Speaker 21 Win them all and go win a national championship. How is the team to? Hoist a trophy.

Speaker 21 Bring it to Barstall, set it on the table.

Speaker 5 You can host part of my take.

Speaker 5 Yes. You can host it.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 I get part of your pay if I host it.

Speaker 5 I will give you all three of my Bored Ape NFTs that I get as payment per podcast if you want to sit here and host this show for one episode after you win an Addi. That's a standing offer.
That's fair.

Speaker 21 I want to win a national championship first. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so, Coach, I had one last question. I want to do a little memory down memory lane with you.
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Speaker 1 Joggers, polos, Q-zips. I want to show you a picture.

Speaker 1 It's still one of my favorite pictures. It's Big 12.
It's probably Big 12 Media Day. So right around now, it was eight years ago.
They made you get in a suit.

Speaker 1 And I've never seen anyone more uncomfortable in a suit in my entire life. You can see yourself back there.

Speaker 21 I know, and some of these guys act like they like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so when they tell you you got to put on the suit, are you like, no, hell no. Or do you just, you know, that's part of the job?

Speaker 1 Like, once a year, you got to put on a suit or the gold suit you wear on it.

Speaker 21 I don't have to put it on anymore. Really?

Speaker 14 No. Never?

Speaker 1 Because they lessened it, right?

Speaker 1 Well, I know they have in the NBA as well.

Speaker 21 Well,

Speaker 21 I wore it a pullover one year and then self-wore it, and then it kind of.

Speaker 1 Then it becomes law.

Speaker 21 Then nobody really wanted to wear a suit anymore. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The gold suit, though, is the best.

Speaker 14 Your gold suit.

Speaker 21 Yeah, if you've got to wear a suit, you might as well wear it. I mean, if you want to look like a fool, look like a real fool.

Speaker 5 That's kind of the motto of this podcast, actually.

Speaker 5 I do like, I like the pullover look because it's like you and Bill Belichick are the only guys that I see constantly pulling off the.

Speaker 21 We're changing the face of college basketball. Have you noticed how many guys are wearing pullovers now? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you really, you're the one that started.

Speaker 1 I think you pull it off more than anybody.

Speaker 21 And other than you guys, I get no credit for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, no, we give you credit.

Speaker 5 Let the record show if somebody's got a shirt on like that, that's a Huggy Bear special.

Speaker 21 Like, old Scott Drew was in here, and he gave me no credit for

Speaker 1 no credit, none. Zero.

Speaker 5 I asked Scott this question. I'll ask it to you, too.
West Virginia, a basketball school or a football school?

Speaker 21 Basketball school.

Speaker 9 I think that's fair. Scott's tradition.

Speaker 1 That's a fair answer. Kevin Pittsnoggle.

Speaker 21 Well, when you think about it, I mean, think about this. Let's go.
Hot Rod Hunley,

Speaker 21 Jerry West,

Speaker 21 Rod Thorne,

Speaker 21 Fritz Williams.

Speaker 21 How about that?

Speaker 21 That's five

Speaker 21 big-time players, big-time pros.

Speaker 21 Will Robinson. Will Robinson averaged 29 a game?

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 21 As a guard, 29 a game.

Speaker 21 How about those six guys?

Speaker 21 And then somebody says, well, what's your tradition?

Speaker 21 Can you read?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think you just say Jerry West. It's like, okay, yeah, that's pretty iconic right there.

Speaker 21 Certainly everybody,

Speaker 21 Jerry's the first name mentioned. Yeah.
But Hot Rod Huntley in his day was like, because Rod did all kind of crazy things.

Speaker 21 He shot a layup one time. This is in the old field house.
So he runs out the door and everybody's like looking like, where'd Rod go? And everybody's like looking, where did Rod go?

Speaker 21 He runs by the athletic director who's getting a hot dog at the concession stand. And he said, Rod, what are you doing? He said, I've lost my man.
Can you help me find him? And just kept on running.

Speaker 21 Ran back in the other door.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 21 No, he did a lot of crazy stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you miss Dana having Coach Holgerson around? Yes, I do.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, he's the best. He's a good friend of ours.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 Dana and I are very dear friends. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Still keep in touch.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should have bought his house.

Speaker 8 His house is pretty nice.

Speaker 21 Mine's not bad. What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 We haven't been to your house. We slept at Dana's house.
Oh, you did? Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's got Red Bulls in every room.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I was at Dana's house when he was trying to prove to me that he had better sound

Speaker 21 in his, whatever it's called, his movie room.

Speaker 21 He had better sound than I had in mine because he had been in mine earlier. So he cranks it up the whole way and blew all the speakers.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5 So it's official then. You had a better sound than Coach Holgerson.

Speaker 1 Oh, without a question. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Just a little sound's better than no sound. Yeah, that's very true.
And then he had no sound.

Speaker 1 He had no sound at the end of that competition. Well, Coach, thank you so much for stopping by.
We always root for you. Consider you a friend.
And yeah,

Speaker 1 let's win a national title and get you on that treadmill.

Speaker 21 Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 21 Are you guys going to get on one too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I will. Yes.
If you go to a Final Four, I'll be on a treadmill. I'll run a mile.

Speaker 1 We'll put them all three of them together. You'll be in the the middle, and we'll all run a mile together.

Speaker 21 Run. Now, wait a minute.
Run's a big word.

Speaker 1 You run.

Speaker 5 It's three letters.

Speaker 21 Run's a big word. I mean, you guys will kill me.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's not a race.

Speaker 21 If we're all running the same speed, we'll run the same speed.

Speaker 1 We'll do the same speed. We can go like 6.1.
You guys run.

Speaker 21 I don't. I sit around and get fatter.

Speaker 1 Do you think I run? Why don't we run?

Speaker 1 Why don't we run at 3.2 miles per hour? That's perfect.

Speaker 21 I don't know. I don't know how fast that is.

Speaker 1 That's a walk. It's a walk.
We can just

Speaker 1 yeah it's a walking walk yeah all right so we'll do that we'll do a mile at 3.2 and we're going we're walking we're in the final four i think it's houston this year real quick you know i did one time what i had a guy who just really class-wise he just didn't he had a hard time

Speaker 21 i mean not doing a class going

Speaker 21 so i said you got to run the stadium stairs i ain't run I said you're not running.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm not running.

Speaker 21 I said, you know, then you're out of here. He's all right.
I'm going home. He was good.
He was good. I said, wait, man, I got another idea for you.
I'll run with you.

Speaker 21 So I start running the stadium stairs, football stadium stairs. So I run.
I get almost all the way around. I think I'm going to die.

Speaker 21 And he's like, come on, you can do it. Come on.
Come on. You can do it.
And he grabs a hold of my shirt, starts pulling me.

Speaker 1 I said, slapped his hand.

Speaker 21 I said, get off of me, man.

Speaker 21 I'm not the one. It's a screw-up.
You are.

Speaker 21 He said, come on, you can do it. He said, come on.
So he finishes. And then he starts this like a crazy man running up and down.

Speaker 21 I said, come on, Hugs. Come on, come on, come on.
I'm cutting across, you know. I'm not going up.
I'm cutting across just to trick him into thinking I actually ran. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He ran and he ran all the way around a second time, went to class. There it is.

Speaker 5 You taught him a lesson somehow.

Speaker 21 I don't know how. He taught me one.
Don't ever do that again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But it was worth it.

Speaker 1 He was good.

Speaker 5 That's That's incredible, yeah. So he went from threatening to quit because he didn't feel like running to loving running so much that he was trying to get you to run.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 He didn't love it that much. He was trying to torture me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. He's like, all right,

Speaker 1 if I'm getting punished, you are too.

Speaker 21 Yeah. Well, he played a long time in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who was that?

Speaker 21 Ruben Patterson.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Okay.
Yeah, the Kobe stopper. Yeah.
Remember when he said he was a Kobe stopper? That didn't work out. No.

Speaker 1 There weren't a lot of people.

Speaker 21 He had a better chance of running the stadium.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Coach, thank you again.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 21 Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Coach. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up with Fire Fest of the week. Send everyone on their way for a great football weekend.

Speaker 1 Henry.

Speaker 14 You know, one thing quickly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Something wild.

Speaker 13 Bob Hoggins and Scotts are on today's show.

Speaker 1 Who played tonight in college football? Baylor in West Virginia. Wow, that is crazy.
That's shit. Who won?

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Tell us who won.

Speaker 13 West Virginia won 31-26.

Speaker 1 I'm adding over to the card.

Speaker 14 Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'm going to bet that exact score.

Speaker 11 My firefest is my voice in general. Like, I've always hated my voice.
Being sick and having, you know,

Speaker 11 the stuff in my throat. Being scared to talk is not fun.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you've got a frog in your throat. I'm like Billy, and usually Billy's in the frog's throat.

Speaker 11 That's really good. Good one.
Thanks.

Speaker 11 So that's been a fire fest in general. Yeah, I got frogs in your throat, probably in your throat 2PFD, so I apologize.
Apologize to the listeners.

Speaker 11 Although, I'm sure they are not fans of my voice in general, because I certainly am not. My other Fire Fest kind of goes back to my last week's Fire Fest about being obsessed with Game of Thrones.

Speaker 11 Still am, still thinking about it constantly. And I had, like, it just, you know, a light bulb went off my head.

Speaker 11 Obviously, on Sunday nights are when we're recording, so we don't, I can't watch it live. I'm not live tweeting.
I have everything muted.

Speaker 1 I save everything until Monday to watch I think that's an unspoilable show by the way I can't remember anyone's name well so

Speaker 1 I see this I see the name scrolling on Sunday they're like this fucking guy died I'm like I don't know who that guy is so Amond is the kid that no don't do that don't do that don't start telling us the names all right I'm I have

Speaker 11 one kid's name is Amond and Amon not Amond Amon

Speaker 11 and

Speaker 11 I have a like if I was live tweeting the show.

Speaker 1 Max has his fingers in his ear like he's a four-year-old and a fire truck's going by.

Speaker 11 If I had, if I was live tweeting the show and something happened, I could tweet fucking Amon. Oh.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it would slap. So why don't you just do it next week?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I guess, but like, then I don't want to, like, I don't want to.

Speaker 11 I don't know when it's going to happen.

Speaker 5 Also, I feel like people aren't live tweeting this Game of Thrones like they were last time.

Speaker 11 I have everything muted, so I don't know. I don't think they're live twenty thousand.

Speaker 1 Try to send it out there.

Speaker 1 I'll send it out there on Sunday.

Speaker 5 It's football season. People weren't really tweeting about Game of Thrones when it was during football season.

Speaker 1 That's just not true. Yeah, no, there's definitely some tweets out there.
People love their dragon.

Speaker 14 They're the most popular show of all time.

Speaker 1 People love their dragons.

Speaker 5 Well, I watch it, but I just haven't even muted anything.

Speaker 1 I haven't got anything spoiled. Again, I just don't really know who anyone is.

Speaker 5 I have to watch it after we record because I can't sleep usually, and I don't want to get spoiled.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry for your loss.

Speaker 14 I just didn't watch this week's episode.

Speaker 11 That's why I had my ears.

Speaker 1 I like wait a few weeks and then watch like three in a row, and then I just walk away from it being like, I don't know who those people are. Like, someone died.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 Aamon.

Speaker 11 Fucking Amon.

Speaker 5 Fucking Amon. I just know the crab feeder.
Because that's a badass name. It's fucking metal.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Okay.
You're a Firefest PFT?

Speaker 5 My Firefest is now people are just calling me Viserius or whatever his name is.

Speaker 1 I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 5 He's the old king.

Speaker 1 That's that's long. Now I know who that is.

Speaker 5 That's going bald. Well, he is pretty much bald.

Speaker 11 It's like a disease, and he's slowly dying.

Speaker 5 He's slowly dying. But that's life.
Life is a disease that you catch where you slowly die.

Speaker 1 What a spin zone. Well, I mean, it's true.
It's true. You're dying.
Everyone's dying.

Speaker 5 If you're above the age of 25, you're dying.

Speaker 1 No, the day you're born is the day you start to die.

Speaker 5 Are you dead before you're born?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Think about that.
Embrace debate. Now we're doing abortion talk.
Are you alive in the womb?

Speaker 1 Are you alive when you're in the womb?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what do you think hang depends how long

Speaker 5 heartbeat yeah um so okay so yeah that stinks but um on the other hand i'm he's the king yeah people are calling you king he's the king on the other hand i've still i don't i'm not like recklessly bald right now it's just it's something that's happening that's creeping slowly that will not stop um but i have talked to people we've circled the wagons we actually had a little support group that stopped by my desk earlier this year this morning i was involved in it it was uh it was like cons came over chaps came over, and

Speaker 5 regs came over. Riggs came over.

Speaker 11 Sounds like they were recruiting you to the ball team.

Speaker 5 Well, they were basically like, they're patting me on my shoulder and be like, oh, you're good. You got like three more years.
It's like, no, I don't think that I do, but thank you guys.

Speaker 5 I appreciate the moral support. But Joey stepped up, and if anybody knows anything about cosmetics, it's Joey from Out and About.
That's true.

Speaker 5 So he's got a guy that's going to give me like blood injections that's going to regrow my own hair.

Speaker 1 That sounds fun.

Speaker 5 So that's where we're going to. Well, it's my own blood.
Right.

Speaker 1 No, I know. That's just no matter what, the blood injections in general sounds not fun.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well,

Speaker 5 that's the plan right now.

Speaker 5 And then if that doesn't work, then I think we're just going to cut it close, and I'll be a wig guy with various different wigs of shapes and colors depending on my mood at the time.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So it could be a look.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that could be a look.

Speaker 1 You do put off looks. I do.
Yeah. I pull them off.
Yeah, you pull off looks. So, yeah.

Speaker 8 I serve looks. You serve looks.

Speaker 1 You're serving one right now.

Speaker 5 I'm dripped out right now

Speaker 1 I missed the sweatpants when he came in. When PFD came in, I was like, oh, that's a cool

Speaker 1 sweatshirt. He's like, got the pants, too.
I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 All right, my Fire Fest is I'm just very, very tired. We're in that part of football season, and I fucked myself.

Speaker 8 I think Jake doesn't even know this.

Speaker 1 On Tuesday, we had Tuesday off. We try to record early on Tuesdays.
It's one of our only nights that we're off.

Speaker 1 I was watching the Yankees game, and Garrett Cole Cole looked like he was struggling.

Speaker 8 I got back in my car.

Speaker 1 I came back to work, and I sat here doing other work for all the shows on Wednesday in the studio, hoping the Yankees would lose, and I could go and troll all the Yankee fans.

Speaker 1 And then it just like dawned on me when they won 4-1 that I was just on my one night off, I was at work till like 11:30 p.m. So I really fucked myself bad.
Did you know I came back?

Speaker 13 I heard afterwards.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. I was going to watch.
If you guys

Speaker 1 had a terrible thing happen, I was just going to walk on the stream and just be like, we we got him next time, guys. It would have been great, but the joke was on me.
I completely fucked myself.

Speaker 1 That's the addicted to, I'm addicted to the troll life.

Speaker 5 You got cell phoned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got cell phoned.

Speaker 5 Is that why you came back to the office at one time when the Nats were playing in game seven against the Astros?

Speaker 8 No, that was for support.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, cool. Yeah, I trolled the Yankee fans.
Gotcha. I was supporting you.
Gotcha. You asked me to come back, too.
I came back with Stella.

Speaker 5 That was nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was an booster. What an evening that was.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy.

Speaker 10 So everyone was roasting me for my vibes being calculated into my analytics, and I figured out how they calculate into analytics.

Speaker 1 This is going to be good.

Speaker 5 I have a question before you take off your shoes to count. Before you get started, Billy,

Speaker 5 how much work did you contribute to this assignment versus how much did Stadthole Sports contribute to this assignment?

Speaker 1 I have not spoken

Speaker 5 to Stadthole Sports. I saw they reached out to you and offered assistance.

Speaker 10 I have not spoken to Stadthole Sports. But actually, I might reach out now.

Speaker 10 I haven't done the exact calculations Who else do you think this could be calculated? Myself, I came up with this.

Speaker 1 It's really not hard.

Speaker 5 100% yourself.

Speaker 10 It's 100% me. It's really not that hard.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 10 basically, it all depends on how turnovers are made.

Speaker 10 So, this only calculates into fourth down and going for two.

Speaker 1 Basically, how are turnovers made, Daddy?

Speaker 5 A stork.

Speaker 1 When a quarterback and a

Speaker 5 quarterback love each other very much, when a defensive lineman.

Speaker 10 okay uh so basically uh the percentage of converting a two-point conversion or on fourth down basically gets uh increased depending on what type of turnover happens before that possession so so give us a practical example so or something that occurs when they receive the ball so for example an interception yes that multiplies hypothetically I actually want to look into this because I think it's there's probably something there after an interception a fourth-down conversion or a two-point conversion increases by, let's say,

Speaker 10 110%.

Speaker 1 Are you just talking about quick change defense? When the defense has to rush on the field and try to defend

Speaker 1 off an interception?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But couldn't you also say that

Speaker 5 the offense might not be in a rhythm to run a two-point conversion play?

Speaker 10 No, because that's after the end of.

Speaker 1 So, what's the vibe, California? So, just different.

Speaker 10 So, let's say it's

Speaker 10 a 40% chance you convert on fourth down.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 10 Fourth and one. If it's after an interception, it's 110% of 40%,

Speaker 10 which is 44%.

Speaker 1 Okay, so 4% increase off an interception.

Speaker 10 Right. And then something like interception with a big return is more.
Got it. 120%.
A big fourth down stop before, that's like... you know, 120%.

Speaker 10 Now, I'm trying to figure out the exact values, but like a fumble recovery will increase it less than a strip sack fumble recovery.

Speaker 1 Got it. That makes sense.

Speaker 10 Or a KO fumble recovery where they knock the person out and then get the ball back.

Speaker 1 That makes sense.

Speaker 10 Or like a lineman interception is a huge, like that's like 150%.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Whereas like a blocked punt or kick is like 160%.

Speaker 10 Or a trick play, fourth down, stop. Okay.
Or a safety is huge.

Speaker 1 Got it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 10 So the vibes were high from the second

Speaker 10 Teddy Bridgewater was hit for safety. Wait, wait.

Speaker 1 And they injured him.

Speaker 10 So that's like 170%.

Speaker 5 So if your defense gets a safety, then they kick off to your offense and your offense goes all the way down the field. The vibes are high still from the second down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should go for it on fourth down because you have a vibe increase. Okay.

Speaker 14 So it's like a power-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So off a turnover, you think that

Speaker 1 go for it. Now, does that...

Speaker 10 For example, when Tennessee

Speaker 10 kicked it to Beck on LSU and he fumbled it and they picked it up, vibes were so high.

Speaker 10 They were going for it, like going for it on fourth down, going for two points.

Speaker 11 I'm not a stats or math guy, but isn't like 100% kind of as high as you can go?

Speaker 1 No, not with vibes.

Speaker 5 Do you think so, Hank?

Speaker 1 You sound like a bad vibe guy.

Speaker 5 It sounds like you've got a limited mindset and Billy's unlimited.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Imagine living your whole life and never getting the vibes over 100%. That's Hank.
Yikes. Exactly.

Speaker 9 Yikes. Couldn't be me.

Speaker 1 Yikes.

Speaker 10 So blog's going to come and break it down, probably bring up some examples, and maybe there'll be some statistics.

Speaker 1 I want tweets, though. I want live tweets.
Pick a game. Any game.
Pick Bill's Chiefs. Oh, Bill's Chiefs is going to have so many vibes.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I want the vibe update, and then we can try to correlate it to gambling.

Speaker 5 I have just a sneaking suspicion that the vibes will always be high for the Bills Chiefs decisions.

Speaker 1 Right. Correct.

Speaker 10 There'll be different games like the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 You could try it tonight.

Speaker 1 We're taping this this morning.

Speaker 10 Oh, that's going to be a bad vibes game.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 10 Or the vibes won't be taken advantage of.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 You don't. You forget how bad the defenses are.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad vibes.

Speaker 5 Okay, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 1 Sorry to anyone who

Speaker 1 was listening with kids in the car after listening to that.

Speaker 11 There's a lot of

Speaker 9 explanations you have to give.

Speaker 1 What was that man saying about vibes and percentages?

Speaker 13 Yeah, Monday morning.

Speaker 11 Also, that kid, Firefest, that kid, someone tweeted at us.

Speaker 1 Oh, I retweeted it. I love that kid.

Speaker 1 I love.

Speaker 5 I pick my kids up from school and they play the ball game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He won. And he won.
Fucking, he's better than you. That kid owned you.
Seven years old shout out that kid

Speaker 5 what were you gonna say you're a bad parent yeah for playing the for for raising a winner yes hank you should dm that guy and have his show the piece of give you picks yeah

Speaker 1 he got you he got you sorry jake sorry jake uh

Speaker 14 cold shower monday morning no hot water

Speaker 1 wim hoff though what the wim hoff method i love that is you basically like do breathing exercises and get into cold showers and it like make makes you live forever.

Speaker 1 That's as far as I got into the Wim Hoff method.

Speaker 5 Cold showers are good for your HRV.

Speaker 5 Whatever that is. It's something that's tracked on whoop.

Speaker 5 I didn't enjoy it. I pretend to know what it is.
It just makes you it makes your sleep green.

Speaker 1 I've tried the cold shower thing and then it just sucks.

Speaker 10 The ice plunge low-key isn't good for muscle growth.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, okay.

Speaker 17 You were just finding that out. Well, yeah, because it...

Speaker 5 decreases inflammation.

Speaker 1 Do you ever get nervous, Billy, that like with all the studies that come out, the studies will just keep like disproving the other study and we're just going to keep trying all these things?

Speaker 1 Like muscle growth, like the cold tub was good for a while. Now it's low-key not good.

Speaker 1 Then maybe we'll get good again.

Speaker 10 Are we worried? That's how science works. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 We're evolving.

Speaker 5 That's what's been happening with like butter for the last 200 years.

Speaker 1 Coffee's a big one.

Speaker 5 Butter's good for you. Butter's not good for you.
Try margarine. Butter's better than margarine.
Butter's bad for you. Don't eat butter.
Eat all the butter you want.

Speaker 1 Alvin coffee. They always do the tweet that basically is like study shows that anyone who drinks at least four beers a week will live to 100 years old.

Speaker 1 So everyone would read tweets if we're like, I'm living to infinity.

Speaker 2 Quote tweet me.

Speaker 1 Okay, numbers. Hank, have you ever gotten this? No.
Oh, that's too bad. 40.

Speaker 8 Someone DM'd me 40.

Speaker 1 I'll go 41. I'm going to go 17.
18. Actually, I'm going to go 39.
39.

Speaker 5 You hit 17. I took 17.
I think it's due.

Speaker 9 37.

Speaker 11 Oh, God. I hope 17.
Oh, it's

Speaker 11 unalive.

Speaker 1 17. 17.

Speaker 1 33.

Speaker 1 So close, hey.

Speaker 9 Larry Bird.

Speaker 1 So close. I love Larry Bird.
I do love Larry Bird. So close.

Speaker 10 So the greater white front goose seen in the Dodgers Padres game last night was probably flying from Canada to Mexico for the winter.

Speaker 1 Need a little rest.

Speaker 5 Love you guys.

Speaker 5 Send me lips to say.

Speaker 5 I won't say it.

Speaker 5 But I'll be somewhere there away.

Speaker 5 So I learned my resulting. Stay after me.

Speaker 5 I'd like to let it take a stay to something.

Speaker 5 Take up to me.

Speaker 5 I'll let you let it take a stay to something.

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Speaker 5 way we were anyway.

Speaker 5 You always have to run. Being shy and away.

Speaker 5 Love coming to you anyway.

Speaker 5 Being shy and away.

Speaker 5 Love coming here anyway.

Speaker 5 Dreamy.

Speaker 5 I'll

Speaker 5 be

Speaker 5 honest,

Speaker 5 take me

Speaker 5 out,

Speaker 5 take on me,

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