Coach Scott Drew And Bob Huggins, TNF Suck Fest Between The Bears And Commanders + Week 6 Picks And Preview

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And the Commanders also still suck.

Nah, you can't do that.

You won the game.

I mean, are you going to say that we don't suck?

But you get to do it.

You won the game.

Okay, we won the game.

You won the game.

I'm not going to apologize for winning the game.

Yeah, you can't apologize.

And we're not going to apologize for making America watch our two shitty teams.

Maybe got a small glimpse into what it's like being myself and big cat on any

given Sunday for the last, I don't know, whole life, 25 years of watching football.

I hope you enjoyed it.

Maybe that explains a little bit about how we are and why we are the way that we are.

But if you don't love me at my commander's bears, you don't deserve me at my bills chiefs

this week.

But I, I, you won the game.

So I, the only win that I get is I get to bitch about my team. Okay because you you you won the game you you are now what two and three two and two and four we're both two and two and four hank is about to be two and four maybe um the bears just suck i they're just a joke of a franchise i actually think justin fields played okay and that's if you take out the time that he threw an absolute laser at a defensive lineman's helmet that became an interception, and also when he completely missed, I think it was Cole Komet in the end zone on maybe the easiest throw ever.
If you take those out, he had a nice night. He had a really nice run at the end.
He had a really nice run at the end. The Bears could not score from the five-yard line.
What does my hat say? Run the damn ball. I don't know why they didn't run the damn ball.
I don't know why they had 55 seconds left. They should have run the ball at least once.
All their wide receivers have fucking frying pans for hands. Vilas Jones is a joke.
Like, that looked like us trying to catch punts when we went to Colorado. He's done that twice now in three weeks, four weeks, three weeks.
Get him the fuck off the team. And, yeah, the Bears suck.
They're a joke of an organization. Nothing's going to change.
And I think Justin Fields kind of played okay at times in the one good play that he did have, like the bomb. Amazon totally cucked the Bears and didn't show, like, the entire play.
I thought that was going to be the only touchdown the night, and they weren't even going to show it. That would have been so perfect.
Al Michaels hated this game, by the way. Al Michaels, I think he might actually retire.
Yeah, no. They were like, this is back-to-back.
You know, having to do last week and then this week. It's elder abuse.
Yeah. Basically, what they're doing, it's like Ben Stiller and Happy Gilmore.
They're locking Al Michaels in a booth and forcing to do manual labor and I had I got myself so hyped that it was going to be like chaotic fun and it just ended up being not and uh which was the 99 chance of happening was what we watched just a pathetic game where it was like one team that couldn't do anything the commanders the other team the bears could do everything except score touchdowns which is kind of important yeah um and i'm not triggered right now but i am replying to people being like we dominated the game which is a very sad place to be as a fan to be like lose a game and be like check the box score bro we out gained him by 200 yards that's as pathetic as it gets and i'm there i'm gonna say a couple nice things a couple nice things about the commanders because we did win the game. Yeah, you won the game.
I don't want to be too negative about it. Right, if I'm there.
I'm going to say a couple nice things. A couple nice things about the Commanders because we did win the game.

Yeah, you won the game.

I don't want to be too negative about it.

Right.

If I had won the game, I would be very happy right now.

We did win the game.

Brian Robinson scored a touchdown tonight.

He's awesome.

That's incredible.

Again, that's, I think, the best story in the NFL right now.

He got shot twice in his leg.

He's back.

He's running.

He's probably going to be, if he's not already, our number one back.

He will be as of probably next week.

He's a lot of fun to watch.

Our defensive line is going to be, if he's not already, our number one back. He will be as of probably next week.

He's a lot of fun to watch. Our defensive line

played well. Montez Sweat is a

fucking monster. I actually think Montez Sweat

is better than Chase Young, even

when Chase Young was healthy. It'll be interesting

to see when he gets back on the field what that

front four is capable of doing, but between

Sweat and Allen

and then Chase Young coming back, we've got some other good guys in the middle too yeah our defensive line is good i'll give them that um joey sly had a terrible miss at the end uh just hooked it off to the left it reminded me of the joey sly kicks that we got a couple years ago in carolina yeah when they would just send them out at the end of a game to attempt like a 65 yard field goal and he would miss all of those. Wait, you forgot Tressway.

Tressway.

Because I think punters should get credit for when a punt returner

just completely mucks a punt.

Oh, I did.

I tweeted it out right after it happened.

Tressway is our most effective offensive weapon.

Yeah.

Tressway.

I bought a Tressway jersey.

You know, things are going really well for your franchise

when you buy a jersey of the punter.

But I love Tressway.

Best ping pong player on the team, too, by way huge uh so it was it was an interesting evening as a commanders fan the the lead up to the game um kind of overshadowed the game to a certain extent the report that came out about dan snyder again i feel like charlie brown kicking the football of dan snyder's gonna have to sell the team yeah but you know that seth wickersham means business when he drops a report like at 659 in the morning you know he fucking loves it he's just like tossing a match into the internet being like okay this is gonna affect the rest of your day heck knows that feeling quite well i think he did and he definitely had this report like a couple weeks ago he's like no let's wait till they go on amazon you know thursday night football the timing the timing was suspicious so they had like it took them a while to this together. They talked to 31 different sources, different owners, high-level executives, and people in the league office.
And then they waited to put it out on the day that it would be most embarrassing for Dan Snyder, which is when he's on national internet. And I do get the feeling like they are pissed off enough at him to make himself a team.

But you know what?

It seems like from this report, Dan Snyder's entire strategy is

he is like, if you take me out, I'm taking everybody out with you.

And he has, he's going to.

Oh, your boy's going down too.

Dan Snyder is willing.

No, hey.

Dan Snyder is willing to take down the entire NFL with him.

I wish that Virginia McCaskey got fucking fingered at a massage parlor so she would sell the Bears. Well, that's already out there.
It is actually a good possibility that Dan Snyder has serious dirt on Roger Goodell because he's had private investigators following everybody around. He's such a piece of shit that now at this point, I almost respect a piece of shit he is oh yeah and this also gone full yeah full mafia guy and this this report was like obviously it was big because it was actually pen to paper and it was in front of everyone but we've talked about this that he this is he's always had this dirt on everyone that's why he that's why you can't get rid of him because all these guys are buddy buddy for years and years and years they all know the weird shit they do yeah he'll just blow the whole thing up if he has to i thought the most telling part of the entire article was after it detailed explicitly all the bad shit that he's done like tried to force himself sexually on multiple employees all the fraud that he's committed everything going down the list one by one by one the owners was asked, well, what if he gets a new deal for a stadium done? Does that affect your vote? He goes, yes, absolutely.
That would change my vote. Yeah, of course.
So they're all about money at the end of the day. But I'm considering going to protest Dan Snyder at the NFL owners meeting on Tuesday here in New York.
There you go. Considering it.
Get him the fuck out. Considering it.
We're having the discussion. What did you guys think of the game? You watched the game.
You had to be subjected to the game. I was nodding off in the first half.
Yeah, it was bad. It was very bad.
I had that half of Justin Fields throw, though. I had Herbert touchdown score and first touchdown score.
So when he got stopped at the goal line, I pretty much checked out because I knew there was no chance he was going to even have another shot. Correct.
I just felt really bad for you guys. Yeah.
You're a Jets fan, Billy. Get the fuck out of here.
You root for the New York Jets. You won one game.
Get the fuck out of here. Don't do that.
Since like 2010, I bet you that we have a better record than you. Well, that doesn't matter.
After the Mark Sanchez years. I have hope.
Yeah, I mean, the Bears probably do because 18, they won a lot of games. So don't give me that bullshit, Billy.
No, but I'm just saying. No, Billy, you can't do that.
You're a Jets fan. Hank can do it.
Even Max can do it. I just feel bad for you guys.
I feel bad for you. I feel bad for us.
Yeah. Yeah.
The listeners. I feel bad.
No, the listeners are sickos and perverts and weirdos they know they're lit oh my god hank they all trust me they're listening to this right now and they're like this is awesome they're probably jerking off in their car being like listen to how sad these guys are one guy's franchise can't fucking score a touchdown from the five and just make stupid mistakes the other guy has been saying the same story about his owner selling the team for the last 10 years we're pathetic and they love it they love it they're just that meme remember the guy that says sicko and he's looking through the mirror or the window that's what that's what all of our listeners are right now i think though if they like best case scenario the bears and the commanders are good and it's like a slugfest and a team wins on a big touchdown that would be much much better for no no no you. No, no, no, you're wrong.
You're so wrong. It's not even like heartbreak.
You guys don't have heartbreak. You just have like – No, but people like it.
You're just constantly disappointed. You're not sad, you're disappointed.
I would prefer double doink days than these just sad, sad times. Did you see Carson Wentz throw a block? As fucked up as that is to say.
Carson Wentz as a lead blocker tonight. That was awesome.
That was a highlight play, kind of. It wasn't a touchdown, but that's something I can be a little bit excited about.
Now, on the other hand, when he gets back in shotgun and there's nobody else in the backfield with him, I think he gets lonely. Carson Wentz, so bad.
He gets depressed when he doesn't have a running back standing next to him to be a buddy. He just feels like he's out there on his little lonesome.

He makes me sad.

The team makes me sad.

Shout out to the people in the truck, too.

Yeah, take on me.

Definitely in AWL.

What do you got?

What happened?

I have the record since 2010 of the Commanders and Jets.

Okay, let's go.

Bears beat them, right?

Yeah, Bears are...

Because 18 was we won a lot of games. Bears are 21st in the league.
Yeah, we're 92 and 106 with Cutler Washington. Yeah 77, 120 and one the Jets 77 and 121 winner by half a game.
Yeah, let's go. Fuck you, Billy.
I think this is before tonight but shit. I You're going to want it.
Jake, what are the patches? Humor me. Oh, shut up.
144 and 54. First place.
Wait, so after tonight, we beat them? Wait, 144 and 54. Billy, we won.
We were up by half a game, and they won. What were the Bears? The Bears are 21st.
They're 92 and 106. Yeah, it's not so bad.
Only 14 under 500. It's not so bad.
It's only 14. 92 wins is a lot of wins.
It's a lot of wins. You go undefeated for the rest of the season, you're almost 500.
Wow, this is so misleading. The Bills are an even 500, but it makes sense.
But it's just like, the Bills. There's two.
No, but listen. Jets fans cannot.
They have had one good week. But at least we don't go.
I don't think we've done a full first half without scoring. The Jets are the last series? The New York Jets.
Are you serious? That's 29th and 30th in the league. Get memes in here.
The New York Jets. I want to see memes.
I want memes asking here. I don't know how the Billy, you're crazy, dude.
No, no, I know that but in a whole game like neither team scored. You won one game and you think that you're the fucking Mike White as quarterback.
They beat Skylar Thompson. They literally hang the banner, Billy.
They win one game and they think They're the best team In the league And they're mocking Fans in the stands Billy After their Quarterback gets a concussion You started It's crazy Christian Hackenberg Yeah But it's just more exciting The first half was dead The first half was dead Sam Donald got mono Yeah but that's exciting No it's not It's like what happened? Bryce Petty was your quarterback, Billy. Yeah, he was cool.
Oh my God. He sounded like a rock star.
All Jets fans right now are listening and they're cringing the fact that you tried to look down on us. That's disgusting.
No, you don't feel bad for someone you're the same as. No, no, no.
At the same time. It was in prime time.
You know what it was? It was spotlight it was the spot that would be like if i had if i had aids and was about to die and you had aids and you were about to die i'd be like oh i feel bad for you but like dude what are you talking about like you're magic johnson in prime time and i'm just some random why would you say magic johnson because he's like the one guy that everyone knows has aids okay no i would say that we're pretty mercury we have like we have covid and you are like oh man that sucks i'm really sorry that He got that cough. Okay.
No, I would say that we're pretty Mercury. We have like, we have COVID and you are like, Oh man, that sucks.
I'm really sorry that you got that cough. Easy.
And you have AIDS. Sure.
But it was just a combined, it was just a combined and no one really won. Like, do you feel like you won? It's like, no, it's like I have, no, we suck.
We know we suck. It's like, I have dementia.
You have AIDS. And then the doctor comes to me, and he's like, you've got dementia.
I'm like, well, at least Billy doesn't have AIDS. 2020 Jets, week six against the Miami Dolphins.
They lost 24 to nothing. That's four straight quarters to zero points.
No, but I'm saying there was scoring in that game. It was just a bad game all around.
24 to nothing is a lot of scoring. Right, but there's action in that game.
Okay, they played the Dolphins later in the season. They lost 20-3.
They scored three points. Right.
That's not a lot of action. But there's scoring.
It was just a bad football all around on both teams. We know it was bad football, Billy, but me and Big Cat can say that about our teams, but I'm not going to sit here and let a New York Jets fan be like, you run an organization that's in disarray, frankly.
Well, there's an upswing. At one week? Oh, man.
Jesus Christ. Maybe like a half? You're on a half? You're on a half? You're just...
One half of football upswing. You're trending and you're going off vibes right now, Billy.
Exactly. In 2018, you lost 13-6 to the Jets.
Or to the Dolphins. Okay.
That's the same thing. Yeah.
That's worse. We're the same.
I know. I know.
But I just felt that one good game. All I said.
No, no. All I said was I felt bad for you guys tonight because so like Billy gets like one.
Billy gets like anybody else not feel bad for Billy finds like 20 bucks on the ground. He basically found 20 bucks on the ground.
He's like, I'm rich. I can retire.
Like, fuck everyone. Sorry.
I'm out of here. Sorry.
I'm that's not what that was that's not what i guarantee you're looking down i guarantee you i know what the problem with billy as an athlete would be is he would win a game and then he would just not practice he'd be like we're good for the next week i'm awesome like you see how much swag we had though yeah we're sick bro let's just go out there and swag all right let's talk about this game some more it sucked that's all i got I got. It did stink.
I wish the Bears, like, I don't know what they're doing. The delay a game, we didn't even, I mean, the delay a game was comical.
Fourth and 11, and they get a delay a game. They don't know.
Sometimes they do good play calling, and then sometimes they're like, hey, why don't we run from the fucking five yard line why don't we run from the one yard line i don't know why is justin fields

ever passing in the pocket he's so much better when he's outside the pocket i know you can't do

that all the time he had a couple nice passes that just directly bounced off his receivers

are garbage bad garbage the team is garbage the team is garbage the organization is garbage but

with all that said i felt like i saw a couple things justin fields is like he's like um when you're like trying to date someone and it's like you know they're telling you like hey i'm not a good person but you keep being like oh there's something about them i like you know what big yet you can change them yeah right exactly like whoa no this will work like he's telling me who he is every single week but then he does one or two things where i'm like damn that was cool like i i like this yeah i want this but he that's not what he is then he abuses you and he's like i swear i'll never do it again okay all right i'll give him another shit yeah i uh it was it was a bad night of football but you know what it felt good to be able to yell at billy. That felt cathartic.
It was football. I'm good now.
At the end of the day, we got to watch football tonight, and a night with football is better than a night without football. That's what I'm going to say.
We say that, but it's starting to sometimes feel like maybe not. It would have been nice to just go to bed at like 9 o'clock.
I do think it's – There was one point tonight where the game did go by so fast because both of these teams play a very, they give us a swift and merciful death. They don't like to pass and they don't pass effectively.
A lot of balls hitting the ground. Carson once had 99 yards.
Yeah, but he had that sweet block. He did.
He also was playing with a strained biceps tendon. True.
And he also fucked up his hand and did like this weird whirly bird Adams family

fleshlight handshake thing that he was doing.

Yep.

It was just really creepy.

And then he just kept like putting his hand in his back pocket.

I think,

I think it might be severely injured.

So I suggest maybe shut him down for the season or trade him to the Texans.

Oh,

for his health,

for his health.

Here's something we can say.

Let's end with this. This is positive.
Carson Wentz and Justin Fields are tough motherfuckers. They are.
They both got their ass kicked tonight and they didn't come out of the game. I thought at one point, Justin Fields had torn his ACL or broken like his back.
I definitely still think that Carson Wentz has a broken hand and they maybe it would have been better if they had come out because it could have maybe changed some things up but let's say something positive they're both tough motherfuckers they are tough motherfuckers agreed I had the feeling that looking back on this win tonight in a couple months I'm going to be like damn if we had just lost this game we could have had the number 4 overall pick instead of the number eight or nine overall pick. Oh, losing is definitely better at this point.
But in the moment, I wanted to win. Right now, I'm glad that we won, but I just know that this might have been a foolish victory.
My problem with this loss is that I'm very much into, like, why win games when we could get a better draft pick because this team's going nowhere. But there is like little things like hey maybe it's good if you take a step forward and can actually score from the five yard line it's the way they lost like if the bears had lost 21 to nothing i'd have been like yeah they suck who cares but the fact that you like we're a little bit of tantalizing like oh maybe we can move the ball a little bit and hey we're you know the offense looks okay and then they just can't score.
So that's where it really was a kick in the ball. Yeah, and as far as just losing and taking the entire season, you can't learn how to win in the NFL by losing.
That's a fact. That's just math.
Yeah, that's a fact. Orion Fitzpatrick has all his kids out there.
That's a lot of kids. That's on the sex, bro.
That's a shitload of kids. All right.
I think that's it. Any last words? Jake, you want to? Dolphins are the same.
Dolphins are better. I must talk about.
Yeah. I've never seen a playoff win.
Yeah. At least that I remember.
Did you not feel bad for them? Billy, you're a shit fan. You won one game.
You guys were in prime time. This was supposed to be the big thing thing it was supposed to be the big you guys facing off and like no it wasn't we knew it was a house divided it was actually the opposite pft and i before the game we were like should we do a mayor's bet we're like both these teams suck this is gonna suck let's just get through this yeah so it was actually the opposite there was like zero expectation and hank might be right if they both were really good it would have been a lot more.
It would have been more shit talking. But if you watch the stream, it was basically like both of us just trying to will our teams to do anything competent.
Tell you what, Billy. Let's revisit this conversation on the night of December 22nd at about 1130 p.m.
right after the Jets are done in primetime playing the Jaguars. And then we'll see who's sad and who should feel sorry for him.
Bears play the Jets this year. I hope we fucking kick your ass.
It's going to be fun. But, like, that was just.
How does that make sense? But the thing is, when two bad teams play each other, they're supposed to equal out. Are the Jets good right now? Look, that's what I'm saying.
But when two bad teams play each other, they're supposed to be bad and then look decent like two college teams playing each other

as opposed to an NFL team and a college team.

No, because in this circumstance, when they're bad,

it's because they can't do things like block or catch a football.

Catching a football being a big part of what the Bears can't do.

The reason that football is bad.

Oh, it is a bad product.

If you can't do things like block somebody that's coming after your quarterback, then that's just going to make for bad football. Like Vila Jones, just not being able to catch a punt was bad.
Throwing a easy touchdown. Bad.
Bad. Bad.
Bad. Bad.
Bad teams can have barn burners. Yeah.
They can. Well, if they're able to do things like catch a football.
Correct. Or throw a football.
bad teams this was bad That is why It was a bad night But you still In the back of your head Beating the Dolphins 40-17 You do think you won a Super Bowl And also we have hope going in against the Packers Against Aaron Rodgers Now I hope he kills you Remember this might be, remember, this might be... Now I'm not going to root for Aaron Rodgers, but you're making me very close.
No, but like, I'm probably in some sort of win-week type dysphoria. Check in with me on Monday.
Oh, you think? I might be down back there. You think? You think the Jets fan who's being like, you guys are pathetic.
It might be a little bit. Okay, a little bit of dysphoria.
I'm sorry. Because it's been like five days since you've watched the Jets, so you forgot what the Jets are like.
But I watched it live. That was like cocaine.
If the Jets are cocaine, then the commanders are a crocodile. Yeah.
What are your thoughts on cocaine? The economist thinks that we should legalize it.

Are you going to write a blog about it?

I did, but never mind.

Billy is like the-

Billy ate ball.

Billy is a sophomore that goes abroad.

It's like, you guys got to go to fucking London.

It's incredible.

It changes your life.

You saw one Jets win in person.

You guys wouldn't get it.

It's just a totally different experience.

Also, me and Big Cat, it's like our teams are our babies,

and I'm allowed to call my baby ugly.

Correct.

I'm allowed to be like, look how ugly it is right now.

Its ears are so big, it hasn't grown into its feet yet.

You are not allowed to call my baby ugly.

Because your baby's fucking fetal alcohol syndrome.

My baby's not a prime time. Your baby's a hell infant.
Yeah. Your baby has hooves.
Remember when the Titans played the Jaguars and it was like, what would we call it, like the stink bowl? The toilet bowl. The toilet bowl.
Close, yeah. But it was still a good game.
Sure. No.
That's why I felt bad. Those games were never good.
No, I think those games were still. But it was better than this game.
I just don't, I'm not here to have Billy tell me that my football team. Yeah.
It was one game. Changes a guy.
Forget. You forget who you are.
You were starting Joe Flacco two weeks ago. And we had a comeback win.
I love you, Joe. Oh, man.
I mean, even Joe has to be like, wow, I'm really stealing money right now. Hank, what's in that bag?

Let's take a look.

What's in that bag?

Well, why don't we end the show?

Oh.

Oh, it's a part of my cheesesteak.

Oh.

Wow.

Who ordered a part of my cheesesteak at this hour?

They were just lying around the office.

Oh, okay.

Great.

So, anyone supposed to eat one?

I think Billy lost a bet to White Sox Dave tonight.

Oh, you know what, Hank?

We got to get the hot sauce.

Oh.

Where is it?

I think it's out on the couch.

Okay, let's go get the hot sauce.

We can't do it on the podcast?

Yeah, let's have a bite.

We'll just have a bite.

Yeah, we'll just eat some of it.

Just have a bite.

This is fucking a whole night.

As we wait for Hank to get back.

So, Billy and White Sox Dave had a contest,

and Billy was on the side of the Commanders.

White Sox Dave obviously on the side of the Bears. And whichever team scored first, whichever team scored first, the other guy had to eat a part of my cheesesteak with Sean Evans' Hot One hot sauce that's got, I think it's the 10 out of 10 spiciness.
So Sean is actually, he's a friend of ours, and he said, because he's very excited to watch you eat this, Billy, he loves you. If it's a good sandwich, then we could maybe do a secret menu with Sean Evans, which would be, I mean, that's a good business opportunity for you, so I hope that you're able to eat this.
Could be in a lot of money, Billy. By the way, I don't like the orange helmets.
Maybe if they had one, I would like them. That's kind of how it goes.
Yeah. Can we call a timeout here? Okay, timeout.
Okay, timeout. 20 seconds.
You get a 20-second timeout. 20-second timeout.
I'm taking a full. Okay, full.
So, all right. You get a minute.
You get a minute timeout. This was supposed to be for the stream.
This is a stream of sorts. So, if White Sox Dave.
YouTube, subscribe. If White Sox Dave would have lost, he wouldn't have had to do it.
He would have went home. Oh, no, he would have done it.
No, no.

You guys ordered this.

No, he doesn't.

No, he doesn't.

All right.

I'm telling you right now, if we could go back in time and change it so the

commander scored first, I would make White Sox Dave do it.

Billy, we got this in the third quarter.

We were just holding it for after.

We would have done it to him on the stream.

I know you're trying to come up with a spin zone.

What are you talking about?

Show me the receipt.

Show me the receipt.

Show me the receipt.

Yeah, motherfuckers.

Billy, are you just...

I hate getting fucking punked all day.

Are you just...

Like, you guys think I'm an idiot.

Well, White Sox State did beat you in the Wonderlic.

Yeah, 10-17.

Okay, but still...

Wait, that is...

Wait, that is the third quarter.

That's the third quarter.

10-30.

Uh-oh.

That's the third quarter. It's 11-45 right the third quarter it's 11 45 right now i hate getting punked by billy all the time what the fuck is this hey what the hell is this billy why can't you ever just do something without i do every fucking thing like what the fuck okay you don't have to eat the entire sandwich it's just like Just...
Just, Billy, give me... How does putting tons of hot sauce advertise for the fucking cheese steak? I'm going to not like it with all the hot sauce.
I wasn't even part of putting this bet together. It's stupid.
It's fucking stupid. Because you belittled our franchises, now I want to see you do it.
Just give me three bites. You don't have to eat the entire thing.
Just three bites.

I'll take a bite.

Billy, I'll take a bite too, okay?

How much hot sauce are we putting on it?

Will you calm down for a second? I'm going to take a bite, but I'm on a diet because Hank called me a fat fuck.

Like, because I'm going to be-

You're welcome.

Probably not be able to sleep tonight because I ate fucking hot sauce.

Oh, okay.

And that's Billy, like, fucking-

It's just annoying.

Now Billy's going to be like, you're giving me mental illness from having to do this eating the fucking hottest sauce ever I just told you I'd take a bite why can't you just do something I'll smell it do everything oh I'm actually hungry too yes so eat it so eat it I will eat it but like I how... Just take three bites.
I'll take one bite, okay?

No, I'm going to eat it, but...

I'll take a bite.

I'll take a bite.

Am I supposed to put hot sauce on it?

Yes.

Billy, what are you talking...

Of course you are.

No, but there's no hot sauce on it.

Do you want me to eat it?

Billy, there's hot sauce right next to...

Are you...

What are we doing here?

Are you being serious?

What are we doing here?

See how easy it is to take a bite?

No, because there's no hot sauce on it.

That's not the point.

I was so easy.

Take a bite.

Billy, give me the hot sauce.

All right, now put your hot sauce on. Give me the hot sauce.
Sometimes I think you don't speak English. You just took a bite.
No hot sauce. Okay.
I said I would take a bite. I didn't say anything about hot sauce.
I would take a bite with hot sauce on it. My team lost.
Okay. Boom.
That's it.

Here comes the bite, and he took the bite.

Wait, when we originally talked about this,

there was going to be dousing it in hot sauce.

Mmm.

Mmm.

He feels good.

That's really good.

He looks good.

He feels good.

So that's how much I can put on?

That's how much I can put on?

No, P.T. will put on.
Three bites.

Now do you feel bad about complaining? I know I'm looking unreasonable but this is way over soul I just took a bite who sold anything mm-hmm nobody will you stop right Billy will you stop talking and give me your sandwich because you're're about to douse in hot sauce. This is so stupid.

I love every second of it.

Will you stop talking?

Billy, stop talking.

I don't want to hear you talk ever again.

We thought Billy got over his fear of food and getting conquered by food in Colorado.

You can't do it.

There you go.

Yeah, that's a little bit. See that? That's three bites worth.
PFT ate it. I did eat it.
I'm actually going to take another bite with more hot sauce. Okay.
Oh, whoa. He's doing this for sport.
Now he's showing you up stupid. Okay.
I'm just putting more hot sauce on it and doing this because I'm a man. Mm-hmm.

Wow.

He's showing you up.

All right.

Oh, my God.

How are you doing?

Be careful, be careful, be careful, be careful.

Stop talking.

This is your idea.

Stop talking.

Yes, my idea is you to eat the sandwich,

not talk to me about eating the sandwich. Billy, be careful.
Watch, I'll take a bite. You're all taking bites of sandwiches without hot sauce in it.
Not me. I just ate three bites in your face.
Take a bite. Hank just took a bite.
Wow. What a beast.
Hank's a beast. You know what? This is just...
Took a bite. You know what? Billy, I'm going to eat your half of the sandwich.
How mad are you? How mad are you? How mad are you? You literally volunteered me for something to put tons of hot sauce on it. Why are you so mad? Why are you so mad? Because...
I'm about to do it. I'm about to do it.
You could have killed him. I'm about to do it.
Billy. I'm about to do it.
You got your hot sauce. Give me your sandwich do it you got to eat it because you won't shut the fuck up all right let's go get to ourselves weekend preview because he's not gonna eat it he's not gonna eat it do a playoff baseball quickly what playoff baseball oh yeah yeah give us a little baseball Jake give us a little baseball division series yeah Alvarez very good good.
Really good. Monster.
Walk off in game one. Another one in game two.
They're up to love. The Padres steal one in L.A.
Yep. 1-1.
Oh, he's taking a bite. The goose landed on the field.
Or even in the Battle of the NL East between Atlanta and Philadelphia, and the Yankees got rained out. So, by the time you're listening to this, it'll game two.
In the afternoon, the Yankees looking to go up to love over Cleveland. That's to love.
All right. Thank you, Jake.
Hey, Billy, that was the wrong side of the sandwich. You just took a bite out of it.
You're not fucking eating the bread. It's hot.
It's not that hot. We'll kick it to ourselves.
Watch PMTV. You can watch the rest of this.
It's not that fucking hot. Because I'm sure it will keep going on for a few minutes in the studio.
Let's kick it to ourselves for weekend preview. We didn't talk baseball.
Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling.
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Week 6 NFL season. We're third of the way in.
Feels like we know some stuff. This is Revenge Week.
There's revenge all over the schedule. All over the schedule.
It's kind of crazy. Every single matchup, I'm like, revenge, revenge, revenge.
It's vengeance week. Yes.
And we have teams that we think are good right now that we've overreacted to that I think I'm about to pendulum on the other way. I have some teams that we just assume are good, and I'm starting to think they might not be good.

Are we talking by names and helmets and logos?

Yeah, and record as well. Record as well in past performances.

I mean, we'll just say right now we're going to get to all the picks,

but are the Bengals just not good this year?

I don't know.

Interesting question.

Are the Vikings not really good, but their record says they are?

Are the Packers not very good this year? The Packers might be bad, although I'm not going to fall for that trap because they always figure it out. I think the Packers, as they stand right now, are bad.
Yes. Not very good.
So, let's do the picks. Jake, what are our standings at? Yeah, Billy, the winner of last week at 3-1.
Whoa, good job, Billy. I did get my first set of wins since week two.
Nice. So, I'm in last place at 5-15, PFT at 7-13, Billy at 8-12, Max 9-11, Hank and Big Cat tied at 10-10.
Okay. We are short.
Still pretty tight. I survived that 0-8 stretch and I'm only two games out.
Yeah. There you go.
It's fine. Feels good.
You just got to make it through the hard times. Exactly.
The winners are going to come. That is crazy to say you got your first win since week two.
And I'm only two out. And you're only two out.
Yeah. Yeah, PFT went 0-4.
It feels like every week we have an 0-4 just drop. I'm pretty sure I've gone 0-4 twice.
I think we've had one every week. Yeah.
The crazy thing is I'm insanely hot on baseball right now. I bet on a goose to interrupt the game last night.
Yeah. That's how hot I am.
I mean, there it is. As long as you're hot somewhere, you're good.
Should we start? Hank, would you like to go with your favorite? Your favorite favorite. My favorite favorite this week is the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaking of your point, is this team good? Is this team bad? I think everyone's riding high on the Giants and the Jets, honestly. I think maybe it's biased just living in New York and hearing the excitement after them having a tiny morsel fraction of success.
Everyone's talking about these teams like they're going to the Super Bowl, they're going to the playoffs. I don't think it's going to happen.
I think the regression starts this week. Minus six.
Minus six. The Ravens win by 20.
Are you nervous at all about the Wink-Martingdale revenge game? Because that is, he was a defensive coordinator for a decade for the Ravens. He's now the defensive coordinator for the Giants.
He probably knows inside secrets like Lamar Jackson is fast. No, see, I really don't pay any mind to a former player, coach, playing against his team.
I don't think that matters whatsoever. Okay.
No, not at all. Throw it out.
Well, they are the two fastest quarterbacks in the NFL, Daniel Jones and Lamar Jackson. That's true.
It also, you know, we were talking about Wink Martindale and how he just feels like an old-school bookie or someone, you know, about town, loosely associated with the mafia, just that look. He's got the chain, the name Wink.
Patrick Queen in the media during the week called him. He just said he's just like an old, cool cat.
Yeah. So that's, I mean, that really speaks to it.
Like that's, he'll go over to his house to put on a blues record and you'll just hang out and just be a cool, old, cool cat. I feel like Wink is a guy that has a guy for everything yeah you need anything he's like oh yeah i got a guy for that you need a butcher he's like yeah i got a meat guy yeah you need a car salesman yeah i got a dealership guy i can hook you up with he's a guy that definitely has he's got guys he's got card games going on his basement i bet yeah he's he and patrick queen said that he's still invited to all the cookouts, so there's definitely no hard feelings.
I think Wink probably has some hard feelings because he was there for a long time, but on the other side, not as many hard feelings. Now, the Giants just got their punter back.
He was stuck in England for a while. Scottish.
The British are up to their old tricks, taking the Scots hostage up there. He finally got out.
They put him on a plane back. I think he got back yesterday.
I don't know how that affects the punting game because he is a pretty good punter, and he just looks cool too. And then on the special team side for the Ravens, did you guys see the post-game interview with Justin Tucker? We missed it because we were recording part of my take as it was happening.
But when he broke down everything that happens when he's kicking a game-winning field goal it was actually fascinating to listen to him talk about it because he referred to the job that the holder did he goes that's his first game-winning hold oh he's had nice which is cool and then he called himself a system kicker wow which is i mean i guess it kind of makes sense because your job as a kicker is to just be a robot and do the same thing

over and over and over again with no variability so he's like yeah you get the snap back he was talking about the 1.3 seconds the perfect hold he's like at that point the ball just kicks itself I don't think it's quite that simple no it's cool to hear him break that down and I also saw someone broke down where he kicked the game-winning field goal and they broke it down that if the goal posts, if the field goal posts

were one yard wide,

he still would have made it. Someone broke down where he kicked the game-winning field goal, and they broke it down that if the field goal posts were one yard wide,

he still would have made it in the exact middle.

That's insane.

Half a yard wide.

Half a yard wide?

A foot and a half.

Damn.

A foot and a half, which is almost suspiciously accurate.

Yeah, it's crazy.

He's an absolute weapon.

Okay, Ravens minus six going against the Giants.

Don't believe in them. This does feel like the week that that we're gonna maybe find some things out about some teams uh max your favorite i'm with hank whoa my pick as well okay okay so we're gonna stay with that uh pft what do you got for your favorite uh yeah i'm gonna go with the rams i'm taking the rams it's a lot of points minus 10 but i feel like the panthers are just in a dark place right now i'm not seeing an interim coach bump for them okay at this point because i feel like i feel like what's going to happen the name christian mcafree has been floated out there on the trading block if they're smart they'll do it like baseball teams do it where they don't really risk a guy for injury, especially a guy that has a significant injury history.
If they are trying to move him, they're probably not going to use him that much. The team's not great.
P.J. Walker's going to be their quarterback.
Yep. I'd be nervous about P.J.
Walker. This guy can go in and just win a game.
I think it's a get-back game for Sean McVay and the Rams. Okay, so a couple stats.
One, since everyone loves to throw insult stats at the Bears' way, here's a fun fact. The Rams have scored 80 points this year.
The Bears have scored 86. Why aren't we talking about that? The Rams scored 80 points.
We are having a conversation about that. We're doing it right now.
Also, when a team fires their head coach midseason, the teams after that are 15-16 straight up and 17-14 against the spread, which doesn't sound crazy, but you also have to remember when you fire your head coach, it's a very bad team. So 15-16 straight up is actually pretty great in terms of the fact that it's always a bad team that gets fired that's usually well below .500 i just i we've seen steve wilkes steve wilkos that's the guy from jerry springer yep uh we've seen steve wilkes in the nfl before and i think we know what he's not like uh he doesn't strike me as a raw rock kicking in the ass dan campbell jim tomsula type interim coach yeah he's more of like a level-headed guy i think the panthers they absolutely need somebody that's just going to go in there and kick them in their ass.
Yeah. And that's not Steve.
I saw an interesting stat. This is going to be PMT breaks down racial barriers real quick.
30% of interim head coaches are black as opposed to only 13% of full-time head coaches. Maybe somebody smarter than us can enlighten us as to why that is.
I just wonder if the Rams are just not good. I don't know.
I guess we'll find out. They might just not be a good team this year.
They might not. Because they've looked very bad in multiple cases now.
They've just got guys, though. But they don't have as many guys.
They've got, I think, enough. But losing Odell Beckham and Von Miller are two significant loss of guys.
That's true. That's a big LOG on my analytics.
Loss of guys counts for double. They got log jammed? Yeah.
I don't know. I mean, look.
Did they bring any free agent guys? I'm just always wary of the team that you say it's similar to the Bengals.

So both participants in the Super Bowl last year where it's like you just expect them to be good.

And you got to make sure that you don't get beat by the fact they might not be good.

And this might not be the game.

They might kill the Panthers.

I'm just saying I always am like I got to start changing my brain. Like because you thinkals you think Rams those teams were good they went to the Super Bowl last year maybe they aren't um my my only move in favor of the Panthers in this game would be if they if they receive the opening kickoff I might take them to win the first quarter because like we've talked to some people about what happens when you get an interim coach it's like okay well now you're playing just for your job in the future trying to put something good on tape i think they'll have they'll be motivated yeah but i just don't think that they'll be very good after that yeah it's hard to motivate a lack of talent yes um okay my favorite i'm going with the birds minus six against the cowboys i do think theboys are good.
This isn't a knock on the Cowboys.

I think we talked about it on Sunday that they had the Cooper Rush game

where it's like they won but not because of Cooper Rush.

It was because of their defense.

The one thing that the Cowboys have been able to feast on,

they kick the shit out of the Bengals.

They kick the shit out of the Rams, the Commanders.

They've been able to eat up in the Giants,

eat up on bad offensive lines.

The Eagles have arguably the best offensive line in the NFL,

so it won't be as easy for their defense to dominate this game.

Cooper Rush on the road.

Listen, that's not going to SoFi Stadium.

That's going to the link, right, Max?

You're going to the link, baby.

Not SoFi Stadium.

Not SoFi. Confirmed.
Yes, yes. Also, Cooper Rush.
Hopefully his mom doesn't have lupus. Oh, yeah.
You'll get batteries thrown at her. Yeah.
Cooper Rush is, there's only five other quarterbacks that have started 5-0 straight up and against the spread in their first five career starts. Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes, Ben Roethlisberger, Cooper Rush, and the fifth, Kyle Allen.
That's a nice little spot. I just love those stats where it's like one random guy.
Because if I was Kyle Allen, I would just have that plastered everywhere. I'd make a billboard in my hometown.
I remember that little run that he went on. And when he went out, I think he went to Arizona and beat Kyler Murray.
Who could forget that Panthers-Carbos matchup. Who could forget? It was iconic.
I'm surprised Jimmy Garoppolo's not there. I feel like he was pretty good when he first got started, too.
Yeah. Well, so no, but he got started for the Patriots, and then you had to have to look at Jimmy G's first career starts.
But, yeah, I don't know. Cooper Rush is a winner.
Wasn't he like 7-0 the end of that season with the 3-9ers? But that's against the spread as well, so that might be where it gets tripped up.

He might not have been 5-0 against the spread as well.

Yeah.

Cooper Rush is just a winner.

He just wins football games.

He finds a way to win, but not on Sunday night.

I'm taking the birds.

I'm told that we are going to have the undefeagled prop bet set up in the Barstool Sportsbook

for the birds to go 17-0 this regular season.

You like that, Hank? Yeah. Undefe? Yeah.
You're going to bet that, Hank? Sure. Yeah.
Be a real shame. No, I don't hate Philly.
You hate Philly. You hate New York.
You hate Seattle. Jimmy G did go 7-0 to start his career.
Who in this room has a Mariner's future? Raise your hand. There's a lot of hate.
Oh, it's just me. I picked him as my World Series bet, and I forgot to bet him as a future, and then I didn't want to bet him later and have everyone be like, dude, you got the worst line.
That's a shame. Yeah, I go to Seattle like once a year, Hank.
I love the place. I've been there once.
Nice. Spencer Haas.
Yeah, Spencer Haas made us a beautiful salmon dinner. Okay, Billy, your favorite.
Tampa Bay by eight over the Steelers. Clear throw, dude.
Jesus Christ. That was disgusting.
I didn't know I was there until I started talking. Are you making out with Hank? Tampa Bay by eight over the Steelers.
The Steelers lost to the Jets by four. The Bills by 35.
I think Tampa Bay can take eight. Tom Brady's still Tom Brady, and I think they're due a big win.
Yeah. Okay.
Antonio Brown's at home. He's like they might they fall into the team the category of teams that like might not be that good bucks.
Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree because their offenses look bad.
Yeah, but the Steelers stink. Oh, the Steelers are definitively bad.
This is the unstoppable force versus the immovable object. Tom Brady's 11 and four against spread versus Steelers, and Mike Tomlin's 14-4-2 as a home underdog.
So something's got to give. Something's got to give.
I think it's Brady. For some reason, I feel like Brady really hates the Steelers.
He kind of owns them. I mean, not kind of.
He does own them. Yeah.
I feel like there were a lot of close games, too. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but, Hank, weren't there some close games at the end between the Pats and the Steelers, but the Patriots just always seemed to find that one last play at the end? Yeah, well, there was the tight end touchdown on the goal line.
That's right. Heath Miller.
No, it was Jesse James. Yeah, I know.
But it's the new Heath Miller. Yeah, yeah.
The Steelers, being in Pittsburgh right now has got to be fucking wild because this is very uncharted territory. We've talked to Hank about how having to question whether there's a guy.
The Steelers are doing it on steroids. They have not only a terrible team, but they are also maybe thinking their coach isn't the coach, which we talked about has happened.
They've had three coaches since we landed on the moon. It's insane.
So Pittsburgh's going through it. Well, their offensive, that's where it's like Mitch got all the blame, but their offense is not good, and Kenny Pickett's not that good.
Kenny Pickett's good. Yeah, we don't know that he's not good, Hank.
Kenny Pickett's good. Be careful.
I'm saying – Watch what you say. They're like, oh, it's all Mitch.
They put it all on Mitch. Once we have Kenny, we'll be good.
327 yards against the Bills. Heard they're a pretty good defense.
Yeah. How many points? Three.
That's less. You got to start somewhere.
Right? Yes. Yeah, technically.
Okay. I heard a rumor on the radio this morning that Mike Tomlin was going to step down after this season.
Like he was going to walk away. I feel like that's just trying to get clicks on people's radios.
But that also would be how I would see it going in just the fact that the Steelers are incapable of firing a head coach. Yeah.
And they haven't had reason to, so it makes sense. Jake, your favorite.
My favorite are the Bengals minus two at the Saints. This is a return to the Dome for Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
First time back in Louisiana. We are going to see.
I could visualize CBS's crew right now cutting up highlights of that championship game and showing them before or after commercials. And they love playing in that stadium, and they're only giving two points.
They are. So I like it.
They're the most bet side right now as we speak. 87% of the bets on Bengals.
Also Andy Dalton revenge game. Yeah.
Is Jameis? What's the deal with Jameis? So I don't think I've heard a timetable on Jameis, but having four broken bones in your back seems pretty serious. Yeah.
Yeah. But knowing his trainer, I'm sure they've got him like stretched out across a rack.
But he did play. they probably like tied up four different horses to jamis's limbs and have them just pulling his william wallace in different directions trying to elongate his spine or something right now um it is also the the who day versus who dat battle great great uniform matchup but the bangles i'm worried about the bangles they have not looked.
And it feels like it's a lot of play calling is what you can point to. And they just haven't looked good.
They have not looked like the Bengals from last year. I feel like they've looked on a sliding scale as a franchise.
For a Bengals team, they've looked pretty good. Compared to last year, not so good.
Yeah. But even on a on a sliding scale have they looked good what game have they looked good in i'm saying like above average for a bangles team right they were competitive they've been competitive yeah they've been competitive but they're yeah times have changed for them i don't think i don't think they're a good team right now No, I agree with that.
Yes, yes. Okay, Hank, your underdog.

Uh-oh.

He's getting ready. He's done a lot of research.
I have done a lot of research. I'm torn.
I just, the Patriots, I guess I'm going to take the Patriots. Yeah? It's ratty.
Ratty as fuck. But I'm going to eat the cheese.
I'm going to get in that trap. Get that cheese.
Get out. Shocker.
Plus two and a half against the Browns. So Bill Belichick is about to be, he's one away from being the second all-time, tied for the second all-time for wins as a head coach.
He's going to pass Don Shula eventually, but he's one away from George Hallis, and then he'll be about 23 away from all-time winningest coach in the NFL. Let me ask you this..
No better place to do it than Cleveland fans. It's true.
So another revenge game right there. If Bailey Zappi and Mac Jones switch names, where are we at? Is Mac Jones playing? Maybe.
Maybe. Maybe? You don't want him to.
You guys are so divisive. No, no.
It's a simple question, though. If Mac Jones was named Bailey Zappi, would you like him more? Slightly, yeah.
I mean, Zappi is a fun name. It's fun.
If you were named Bailey Zappi, I would like you more. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. Yeah, I would like me too.
Yeah. Also, pro your bet stat, Kevin Stavansky's 8-16 against the spread is a favorite in his career.
Worst in the league. So the Browns do not win games.
And they don't play defense. And they don't play defense.
I had them in the Hungry Dog last week watching them try and win that game was painful. I think this is going to be one of the...
This is a personal revenge game. This is a game where it's going to be like old school football 200 plus rushing yards for each team.
And, and I'm excited for that. Should we put Chubb and Ramondre in the – Well, Ramondre was my pick.
I was going to take Chubb. All right, so there it is.
I'm in love with Chubb. So what's Mount Rushmore right now? Ramondre, Stevenson, Nick Chubb.
Saquon for me. Saquon and Billy and Jake.
Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon.
Okay. That probably won't be the best odds, but we're hot right now.
I feel like whenever we add a quarterback is when the odds go crazy. Should we add Josh Allen? Should we do five? I don't know.
Max, you want to add Josh Allen? I just don't like that there hasn't been Jalen Hurts as one of the quarterbacks yet this year, I will say. Do you want to do...
I'm down to do five. We're just making it harder on ourselves.
Oh, we've won so many times already. I do think Josh Allen's going to run because this is a big game.
Do them all. Should we add Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts? This could decide whether we win or lose.
I feel like we all have picks. We've got gotta let Max make his choice.
Let's make it all six.

Billy's doing the dark evil Kermit meme right now. Game log

Jalen Hurts. Okay.
I'll do Josh

Allen. He'll do Hurts and then all six

of us have an individual pick.

Do it. Stop whispering.
It's

creepy. Spooky season.

Alright. Yeah.
You wanna do it? You wanna do

six? Yeah, let's do it. This is so

stupid. Let's do it.

Okay.

All right.

Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are in there.

Let's go.

Can we get it boosted?

Yeah.

Oh, God, Billy.

Every week it's boosted.

Billy is in his brain.

He's thinking like, oh, I'm just stealing right now.

This is going to be the easiest bet ever.

Six guys.

We should put this in the sports book.

Yeah.

Under exclusives.

Wow.

Good idea, hey. I can't wait to take this.
Okay. Your underdog.
Max. We've talked about it a lot.
I do not understand why the Bengals are favorite on the road in this game. On Saints plus two.
All right. I mean, I'm deciding between that and another pick, but that's, you know what? I'm going to fucking jump in your hole.
I'm also on the Saints plus two. Get my hole.
Dome is a tough place to play. I just, I don't think the Bengals are good.
And it's, maybe they'll figure it out. But right now, I just don't think they're playing good football.
Like, they don't look, and nothing looks easy for them. Nothing.
And even Joe Burrow said that. He was like, if teams are going to play the way they've been playing against us with the cover, too, we can't do the things we want to do throwing deep shots all the time.
Yeah, Trey Hendrickson revenge game, too. Yeah, true.
Okay, so I'm on that as well, PFT, you're under. My underdog, I'm taking the Dolphins at home, plus three and a half.
Some of us have it at three. Yeah, I have it at three as well.
And I'm taking it for accountability purposes because I did. I may have told the group that, hey, there's a chance that Tua gets cleared.
That's what I'm hearing. Multiple people told me that.
Turns out he got cleared to practice. Probably not going to be playing in the game.
I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater. I don't think he's playing either.
He's in concussion protocol for a concussion that might not have happened, as I understand it. It's really weird.
If it's Teddy Bridgewater, my barometer is did any of his teammates throw up when the injury happened? If it didn't, then it's not that serious. My other lean towards the Dolphins on this is they got rid of the ping pong table in the locker room.
Yep. So it wasn't the coach that did it.
No. Like how Sean McDermott, he took it away up in Buffalo a couple years ago, put it back in after the team started acting right.
This was the players. The players had a players-only meeting.
They said, we're getting rid of the ping pong table. And I want to say justice for the ping pong table.
It's not right what they've done here because Tyreek Hill a few weeks ago said about the ping pong table, it's good for the locker room and it enhances team camaraderie and it introduced some competitiveness to the team even when they weren't on the field. They lose two games.
Now it's the ping pong table's fault? That's not right. What probably happened was Tyreek Hill lost a game of ping pong,

and maybe his teammates stepped over him and really emasculated.

He's like, throw this out of here.

And he's like, we're getting rid of this.

You know what?

We're going to get rid of this entire room forever

so that nobody can ever play ping pong in here again,

despite the fact that so many people enjoyed watching our matchup

against each other because I have the power to shut this room down.

Interesting.

I think that's what Tyreek Hill did.

That sounds like a diabolical move. It does.
Is Tyreek Hill part of management? Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much, I would say.
With a new contract, he probably did. Is he able to do that? Yeah.
What do you think, Hank? I mean, I think it's a smart move. They're football players.
They're paid to play football. They should be focused on football and winning games, not winning ping pong matches.
I do think that if you're interviewing for a job in a real office environment, it is a red flag if they have a ping pong table. Yeah.
And the guy that's giving you the tour is like, you know, we got that real work hard, play hard mentality. Yes.
It's like, I'd rather work hard than go home. Yeah, right.
Like, we got beanbag chairs, we got ping pongs, and on a Friday, we have a keg. It's like, I'd just rather go home and not be around my coworkers all the time.
The very last thing I want to do on a Friday would be to drink with my boss. And stay longer at work.
Hank tries to get me to do that all the time. It's very uncomfortable.
You're my boss. No, no.
You guys are my boss. Okay, so I want to talk about the Vikings real quick.
I know Vikings fans will get triggered and say, we just beat the Bears, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah um that's good my question is are we sure the vikings are good because we talked about the packers are they good we don't know the vikings wins are they beat the packers very soundly week one they beat the lions in a close game that they had to come back they beat the bears one possession game they beat the saints in a close game the only real good team they've played is they got absolutely curb stomped by the eagles are we sure the vikings are good i don't think that we're sure they're good yet but i don't think we're going to find out this weekend either okay because it's just it's and uh i know the connect the dots game is always a tough one to play like oh you know oh they played this team they only beat this team but four and one they're obviously in the driver's seat for a playoff spot uh in the nfc i don't know if they're good i've been actually talking to a lot of vikings fans recently who've been trying to convince me they're good and low-key they're kind of efficient okay but that but the fact that vikings fans are reaching out to try to convince you they're good means they're not good i if you're good, you don't have to tweet at Billy Football being like, bro, we're good. I met these people in person.
It was a little easier to sway me. Are these Kirk Cousins fans? Because that's Kirk Cousins fan behavior.
These are Kirk Cousins haters. They hate Kirk Cousins, but they think they've turned a corner this year.
There's just something different in the building. I really do.
Just what I'm hearing. I really do think that Kirk's a piece of shit for not letting us hate him yeah it's not right one of my favorite things to do and he's just so fucking nice it's disgusting completely disarmed us again the vikings might be good i'm just asking questions this is what we do we ask questions uh billy your underdogs i'm taking the saints with max also took the patriots i think belichick just Browns are one of those teams that he just beats.
Yeah, okay. That actually is, that's perfect logic.
He's just like, yeah. Although he just beats every team, but yeah.
But it's like, don't overthink it. It's the Patriots and the Browns.
Right. Last week, a lot of people overthought that.
It was the Patriots and the Lions. Don't overthink it.
Jake. I'm taking the Falcons plus five and a half at home against the 49ers undefeated against

the spread.

I even know against this team hangs around.

Now they arguably got robbed of a chance to win that game last week against Tampa Bay.

Like they're right there and they're at home and they're getting nearly a touchdown.

I like it.

Are you concerned at all with the fact that the 49ers are staying on the East Coast this

week?

Oh, because they just played Carolina. Yeah.
They did the thing that they stayed out in West Virginia at the Greenbrier. Like it.
No. Okay.
I'm not. Camaraderie.
Yeah, you guys were picking apart the Falcons' injuries last week, and it still worked out. Falcons, they've kind of done the impossible.
I'm rooting for them to go 17-0 against the spread because they are the first team to start 5-0 against the spread and be under 500 in the last 40 years. Which it is hard because you know if you're covering spreads you're usually blowing teams out.
They're just barely losing to teams. They're just hanging in there.
Yeah. They're just sticking around.
I'm just going to keep saying that the Falcons could be 5-0. Yeah.
And no matter what happens after this game they could be 6-0 0-5. Mm-hmm.
I like teams like that. Yep.
Yeah. Those teams excite me.
Hank, you're over. I'm taking the over in the Cowboys-Eagles game.
Ooh. Shootout.
Ooh. Sunday night? 42.
Jalen Hurts going to be running up and down the field. It's 42 points.
Sunday night? Eagles defense, overrated. Cowboys offense, underrated.

Shootout.

Shootout.

Do you agree with that, Max, that the Birds defense is overrated?

No.

I disagree.

Overrated.

Shootout.

Shootout.

Nothing better than a Sunday night shootout.

I take an alternate.

Oh.

50.

Whoa.

Okay.

Getting ballsy.

You're just trying to talk yourself into liking the over more. I love the over.
I don't need to talk myself into it. Okay.
Max, you're over. My over is Niners-Falcons over 44 and a half.
Whoa. What was that noise? I feel the same way.
Why? The 49ers stayed out on the East Coast. Yeah.
They do have some banged up guys on their defense. That defense is going to be hitting, though.
Yeah. They do hit.
Revenge game for Kyle Shanahan. Yes.
Big time revenge game. Your favorite over, PFT.
My favorite over is Cardinals Seahawks over 51. I like it.
It's the Arizona Cardinals. How should we put it? They're DeAndre Moon, right? Hopkins is coming back next week.
Yep. So last game without him.
I'm going to make – I might also take an alternate over on this one. This, to me, just screams shootout.
It does. 51 points over, and it's probably going to be played at 530, right? Yes, because the Mariners – if the Mariners win, they have to win one game in the next two games, and they will push this to 530 start time, which will be great.
It's great because there's no hour wait to sign that football. Which is usually when we do a lot of work, but that's okay.
We'll just deal with that. For the people, it's good.
For the people, it is. It matters most.
Although, what I'm going to get everyone to warn you for is that if it does start at 530,

that means that at 425 or 415, there will be two games on.

That will suck.

That will stink.

That will suck.

Yeah, but one of them is Bill's Chiefs. Yes, that's true.

Good point, Jake.

That's true.

All right, so speaking of which, that's my over.

I just have to take it.

Yep.

I have to take it.

54.

Also my over.

I have to just pay back my game of the year bet last year.

It's such a hot ticket, too.

It's like the best game this weekend. Oh, really? Is it? Yeah.
Is that the hottest ticket? The hottest ticket this weekend. Okay, so what if I wanted to go to? There's probably no way I could get a ticket, though.
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ticketing partner of barstool sports i just taking this over because i want it to happen

I'm going to happen. I'm rooting for it.
So why not? Why not? This would be a great drinking game game. Also no one, no one wanted to take my homes as an underdog at home.
That's never happened before. I was just crazy.
I was thinking about going the other way and just hammering the bills. They will be in the hunger dog.
Yeah, I mean, Mahomes never been an underdog at home, and he's also 7-0-1 all time as an underdog against the spread. This might be one of those games we look back and we're like, wait, Patrick Mahomes is an underdog at home? How did everyone not hammer that? And I think the Bills are an incredible team, but it's just, again, it's almost like a principal thing.
Patrick Mahomes, underdogomes underdog at home doesn't this make so much sense though for the Bills to be amped up like this is their Super Bowl after what happened last year in the playoffs I feel like Josh Allen's been thinking about this every single day but I think that Mahomes is I think the Chiefs they didn't win the Super Bowl right right but they won this game correct but they still didn't even win the AFC thank you, Hank. I'm saying that I think the Bills, they've been thinking about this game nonstop.
It's been part of their entire identity this entire offseason. I would feel better if it was the Chiefs went and won the Super Bowl, but the Chiefs know that they need home field advantage.
This game is going to probably decide who, at the end of the year, has home field advantage in the AFC. It's a fucking monster game.
This game is going to be so electric. So electric.
It was the most electric game last year. Best game I've probably ever seen in my lifetime.
He has to pick tails, right? Yeah. Josh, pick tails.
Get out there and pick tails. This is very important.
Tails is the play. Jake, you're over, and then we'll do finish up with unders I'm with Hank.
Sunday Night Football, Dallas, Philadelphia, over 42.

Wow.

Okay.

I like that everyone's avoiding Monday Night Football because it's going to suck.

Very cool.

Russell Wilson.

Fuck you, dude. All right.

You're under.

Hank.

My under following my theme of New York teams riding high,

I'm taking the under in the Packers Jets.

Packers are bad. Straight up bad bad they might lose this game outright wow um but i don't think there's gonna be a lot of points scored i would love for them thinking like a 2017 i'm just 21 17 i'm worried that the packers are gonna figure it out and i don't 17 i don't want to get ahead of myself i don't want to do the thing that I do every year where I'm like, oh, they're really bad.
They suck. Well, their division's a joke, so it's easy for them to figure it out and win the division and get the playoffs.
But I don't think they're good. Dude, you used to play the Bills, the Jets, and the Dolphins twice every year.
That's true. When they were all awful.
Yeah, that's not false. It's just a joke.
Okay, Max, your favorite under. We would win the Super Bowls.
That's where the Packers win their division and then choke in the playoffs. Yeah.
Patriots would actually get it done. Right.
My under is Browns, Patriots. I think they may run the ball 100 times.
Yes. Yes.
43. Run, run, run.
Run some more.

Although Stefanski is such an idiot.

I feel like he just gets, he like runs it and then he's like, oh shit, I got to pass

so that it looks like I tried to pass a little.

It's like, no, you should never pass.

Jacoby Brissett is, he's a good quarterback until the very end of every game.

Correct.

Just don't let him pass in the last five minutes of the game.

Yes.

Yes.

When the game's on the line, don't use him.

You're under PFT.

Thank you. very end of every game.
Correct. Just don't let him pass in the last five minutes of the game.
Yes. Yes.
When the game's on the line, don't use him. You're under PFT.
My under 49ers Falcons. Okay.
44 and a half. Okay.
I'll do Colts, Jaguars. We haven't talked about this game.
I do think the Jaguars are going to win this game. I just, the Colts suck.
They suck. This is like official, official hot seat, though.
If Frank Reich loses this game, I think he's fired. Yeah, yeah.
The Colts also are on a 10 straight unders run right now, which is pretty crazy. That is wild.
42 there. Also, I'm seeing 44.5 for San Francisco-Atlanta.
Okay. And then I'm seeing Dolphins 3.5, not 3.
Okay. So everything's on's on everything's on well he gave it out as three so he's doing a he's when i told you guys about it it was three he told us to hammer it right for every for our entire network i did not i said three yeah we're docking him a half a point for that i'm joking that's the stew finer text that i get every other day at your whole network i i said i'm not a thousand percent but i'm taking it So I'm in the boat with you.
But you know, and I'm joking. That's the Stu Finer text that I get every other day at your whole network.
I said I'm not 1,000%, but I'm taking it. So I'm in the boat with you.
But you know, and I'm not. The game hasn't been played, so we can win this bet.
But you know, if you text it, it's bet. Yeah, but in fairness to me, I think I have a pretty good track record on the inside stuff.
No, I bet it right away. This is one that I screwed up.
No, I bet it right away. Oh, Hank's maybe disagree.
44th and friend Atlanta.

Excuse me, Hank?

Something you want to say?

This is my co-host, Billy Zappi.

Something you want to say to him?

Yeah, I think your track record is fine.

Yeah, it's better than most.

Most who?

Just most.

Most people.

Okay, then, yeah, yeah, fair.

I've broken like a thousand, or excuse me, my dead dog has broken like a thousand times more stories than the average human being. That's fair.
Yeah. Hit rate? 70%.
Ish. Yeah.
Yeah. Give or take.
It's pretty good. Just do like a meh off that.
It's pretty good for a dead dog. Yeah.
Okay, your favorite under, Billy. I like the Cardinal Seahawks under 51.
Wow. That's a loser bet.
I just feel like Geno... Kyler Murray equals points.
You know what, Billy? You're a hater. No, you know why? Because it's Geno Smith.
I think as a Jets fan... You mean him? Geno him? Yeah, Geno him Smith.
Gene him? I just think this is where we see like, oh, like, fraud. Because Me, no, Smith.
Frohn. Because like, I don't know, as a Jets fan, I saw him play like so many times and then it was just kind of like, everyone's like, oh, Gino's the guy.
But now I'm kind of like, I think, you know, party's over. I think people are going to figure him out.
They're going to game plan for him and he's not going to put up the points. I think that's a hater bet.
But remember, it's 51. If you're rooting on the under in this game, which is going to be kind of a standalone 530 game between the Seahawks that don't play any defense and they're really good on offense, and then the card, you're a hater.
It's also, you are now in your little honeymoon phase with Zach Wilson. Yeah.
Because whenever I think about an old Bears quarterback, I'm not like, that guy sucks. I'm like, the organization sucks.
It's not Geno Smith's problem, it's the Jets' problem.

Even if the quarterback does, in fact,

suck, I never put the blame on the quarterback

because I'm like, what are they going to do? They've played for the

Bears. True.

But I just don't see it.

You see that smile? He thinks he's

definitely got a guy in Zach Wilson.

You don't think Geno's him.

You think he's still Geno SMH. Geno get punched in the face.
Yeah. Come on.
That did happen. Did.
People need to remember that. He ain't punched back.
Yeah. Okay.
So that's my opinion. Jake.
I'm taking the Buccaneers. Steelers under 43.5.
23.9. Ooh.
Calling his shot by who? Tampa Bay. Oh, that would have been cool if it was Steelers.
I like that. 23-9.
Yeah. That's a good call.
That feels like a good score. Maybe a missed two-point conversion late is how you get.
Yeah, or three field goals. Why would they do that? Or three field goals.
Yeah, so it's 17. Touchdown and a missed extra point on a field goal.
Yeah, maybe it's 20-3, and then the Steelers score missed a two-point conversion to try to make it a... No, they wouldn't do that.
Well, how are the vibes? Yeah, Billy, would they go for two there? That's true. Vibe breakdown on Firefest.
Okay. All right.
Any games we didn't hit? I think we hit them all. I think we got something on everything.
I think so. Well, we didn't talk Monday, but we can talk that later.
Yeah, we can talk about that. Never, because it's Russell Wilson.
He's going to bum us all out. Broncos country.
Let's cry. We hit them all.
We hit them all. First week of bye weeks, which always, eh.
It's sad. It is sad.
But it is nice, too, to get a break if your team stinks. I'm looking forward to the Bears bye week.
It'll be nice. Okay, fantasy fuckboys.
Then we're going to get into our interviews. We've got Scott Drew and then Bob Huggins.
Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Oh, fuck.
This dude just changed his name. I got to fucking switch it.
Fuck. One second.
Oh, no. Fuck.
All right. My stardom is fucking Mucus Mahomes.
Oh. Okay.
Let's go with. Double M.
Mucus Mahomes. M&M, baby.
My stardom is AJ Almendinger. Oh.
Okay. It was a different guy that was driving our car, the Pot of My Cheesesteak car, NASCAR.
But now he got a concussion, and it's going to be AJ Almendinger driving a cheesesteak on wheels. Wow.
Parted my cheesesteak. Give me the win.
This is our guy. My sit-em is Jamie Foxx.
Yeah. He's an entertainer.
Used to be an A-lister. Now he can't even get into Cardi B's birthday party.
That's so embarrassing. So embarrassing.
Get the Foxx out of here. Wow.
And my sleeper is the big unit. Randy Johnson.
Yeah. He was a hero of mine as a kid.
Now he's doing photography for NFL teams. Just living the dream.
He's killing birds like Carson Wentz. Love the big unit.
Imagine being stuck behind him when you try to take a picture. That would suck.
Although you could probably just, you know, get around him to the right or left. He's not that fat.
Yeah, he's pretty skinny. Why'd you look at me? Okay.
Hey, what's up? This is Alex Jones. Fancy Fuckboys? Yeah, Alex Fuckboy Jones.
I'm looking through my documents right now. I'm starting the competition committee this week.
There's documents proving the false flag allegations against defensive tackles. They're collapsing under their own body weight.
Investigate Building 7. I'm sitting Zion.
Turned his ankle. I'm sitting Zion Williamson.
All the Zionists out there. All the Zionists out there.
I'm sleeping myself. He's actually in the gym.
Because I'm a real piece of shit, and I owe a bunch of people a billion dollars. They'll never get it.
Only 985 mil. I'm broke.
I'm a broke boy. I'm a broke boy piece of shit.
Infowars.com. All right.
What's up, guys? It's Giuseppe Guadalupe. My stardom is Russell Westbrook.
I hope he stays on the Lakers all year long Because it's three preseason games He's already acting crazy And everyone fucking hates his guts My stardom is Russell Wilson He fucking sucks He says Broncos country let's ride After a loss in front of the podium What a loser And my sleeper is Russell Gage Because I just I don't know know. I wanted to go all Russells.
All Russells.

That's a good look. I like that.

That's the only other one I know.

I like Russells.

Russell Brand.

Russell Brand.

Russell.

Russell Crowe.

Russell Crowe.

Russell Athletics.

Russell.

Russell Hightower.

Jamarcus Russell.

Yeah.

Russell Peterson.

Russell Peterson.

Hey, hey.

Russell Smith.

I got a joke.

What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs underneath a pile of leaves? Russell. Yeah, that's funny.
Russell. How are we doing, guys? It's also Alex Jones.
And my stardom is super vitality male chili. It gets you hard.
The deep state doesn't want you to be hard. And my sit-em is the global pedophile elite drinking blood and making us all look like idiots.
And my sleeper is me on the corner because I should have just been a homeless man yelling at random people and not into a microphone. Okay.
I love how you do these without taking a breath. Good to meet you, Alex.
Double Alex Jones on the pod. We're all doing.
What? I thought that's what we were doing. Oh.
No, I just said I was going to do Alex Jones. Billy was like...
Gotta go rogue. Yeah.
I like it though, Billy. Yeah.
You were good. Good Alex Jones.
Good job, Billy. He's a piece of shit.
Terrible person. Bad guy.
Terrible person. Is he, like, the brokest dude ever? Negative $1 billion? It's got to be.
Probably. Is there anyone who's a broker? Yeah, the United States of America.
Oh! That's not a dude. Yeah.
Well, we kind of are. We're just a big fucking muscular dude.
Yeah, Uncle Sam is the brokest dude ever. That's actually a fact.
That Russell Wilson clip that I somehow missed of him saying Bronco Country Let's Ride after the loss on Thursday night. Oh, my God.
Well, I think I figured out what happened with him because he did the Let's Ride commercial that everybody or the whatever behind the scenes thing that the Broncos were shooting. And then that went viral because everyone was making fun of him because it was so sad.
Then Russell's PR team was like, hey, you've got to lean into this because everyone's talking about it. But I don't think that Russell understood that everybody was making fun of him when they were doing the Let's Ride.
So now he's like, everybody loves the Let's Ride. I've got to say it all the time.
And he almost kind of realized that it was stupid because the Let's Ride was like as he was halfway out the door. But still, that guy, man.
I'm actually, I'm zagging on everyone being like, this sucks that we have to watch the Broncos. I kind of want to watch Russell Wilson just continue to fail on primetime.
It's fun. It's good theater at this point.
He's an interesting guy. He always gives you something to talk about.
Right. He's become fascinating to watch.
To me, he's kind of similar to the Texas A&M yell leader thing. Right.
Everybody's roasting it, but you've got to have something like that that we can all laugh about. And you watch the whole video because you can't turn it off.
Exactly. Yeah.
Okay. Let's get to our interviews.
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I love Pardon My Cheese Steak. And now here's scott drew okay we now welcome on a very special guest national champion head coach of the baylor bears it is scott drew he's here on a mission for the big 12 to spread awareness about the big 12 is what i read and i also saw in the press clippings you're doing non-traditional sports media which would be us so how is the day gone have you done more traditional or non-traditional sports media uh it kind of all goes together by the end of the day right i can tell you though excited to be here and uh one thing that uh uh you might not know but i you probably watch that game when we beat wisconsin yeah yeah um but but one thing really cool after that game.
Someone prepped you? Yeah. Okay.
After that game, we're back eating in the hotel, and Mark Vidal says, hey, look at this. Russell Wilson DM'd him, said you should consider being a tight end.
Ooh. Because he had watched the game.
So I said, yeah, tell him, you know what, for $20 million, you'll consider it. Yeah.
Long story short, after the season, he goes to Russell's house, works out with them. Russell really took him under his wing.
And then he spent two years on practice squads because of Russell and that game versus Wisconsin. So it's credit to me.
There you go. So it all comes back to you.
So there you go. You were a little worried that Bradison was getting hot hey i love brad brad's an unbelievable player and uh glad that he graduated after 18 years and uh i'm just happy that wisconsin got part of uh like the championship dvd you know when they look up baylor and it's like the year they won the national title there it is second round i think you guys hit like 70 from the field that day well well one thing about Wisconsin they're never going to beat themselves so always really well coached and that was a great game and ended well for us but really excited about Mark having a chance to explore the professional side thanks to Russell watching that game yeah that's crazy that is very cool I feel like we had a little run of tight ends that got you know they were pulling from the basketball ranks for a while back in like the late 2000s.
We've had fewer of those recently. Fewer of the Jimmy Grahams, Antonio Gates of the world.
Well, I got something else for you, PFT. What's that? Wow.
You came prepared. I knew we arrived when an NFL scout came into our gym.
Because we get NBA scouts all the time. But when an NFL scout came, he says, you know what? I've added you to the list.
I said, what do you mean? He goes, you have a pro player every couple of years. So I might as well just come over and check you out.
So we had Mark Vidal. We had Rico Gathers.
That was a tight end. Ish Wainwright, Ishmael Wainwright is with the Suns now, but he played a year of football when he was done.
Kendall was in the NFL Levi Norwood so that's five guys that that yeah we put out pros in any sport yeah well wait then so that where does that make you guys on the continuum of basketball school to football school well you know we are the winningest school in the country since 2011 football men's and women and women's basketball. What happened in 2010? I don't know.
We weren't there. It's a very specific date.
2011. And it's not even close.
We got 724 wins. The next highest is Notre Dame, 66 or 58 away from us.
Okay. Yeah, that's pretty good.
So Robert Griffin changed the future of Baylor. That's a beautiful list.
I tell you what, we had an assistant coach, Matthew Driscoll. We were at the sidelines of the game, and he reminded me of this.
Freshman year, RG3 makes a move right by the sideline. We're getting beat pretty bad, but I said, that's a Heisman move.
He's going to win the Heisman before he graduates. And once he did, Coach Driscoll you remember you called that out but I mean when you saw him play yeah and some of the things he could do you I mean I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I recognize Heisman when I see it all right yeah that is interesting though like you could definitely claim to be a basketball school because your basketball players go on to become great football players too like how many football players at baylor have gone on to the nba probably none i think we're an all-athletic department i tell i'm a team you're a sports town there you go there you go all in itself so um you're i mean thank you for coming in here i know you guys are i do like the idea that the big 12 is going out there and shaking hands and letting everyone know, hey, with all the conference realignment and everything that's going on, we're not going anywhere.
Has it been – like, I think credit to you guys, you've kind of come together here. Has it been weird the last, I don't know, six months or so to watch all these dominoes fall and, you know, Oklahoma and Texas and then UCLA and USC? Have you guys had a moment where you're like okay I think we're we're through this for now and we can we can go forward with what we got well like you said the Big 12 being here progressive Brett Uromark is somebody that he doesn't sit still he wants to make our league the best can be.
And one thing that I know is I'm a basketball coach.

I control the basketball part of things. And you look at our league the last nine years, six of those nine years,

we've had the number one RPI or net rating.

And I know PFT, you a numbers guy.

So last year we were 33.

The next highest league was 57.

Since 2002, 60%, six out of ten of our teams gone to the Final Four more than any other league. And then back-to-back national champs.
And the only league to ever have three different teams in the national championship game in a row. I like that.
That is impressive. That's an old-school NFC East stat back in the early 90s when they were going like Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, back to back to back.
That's a mark of a deep league. Staying together.
When you look across the league, and there's some great coaches in this league, obviously. Keep talking, PFT.
Let's go, baby. Well, I didn't mention you specifically.
It don't matter if you said coaches. That's good.
We've got Bob Huggins coming in in a second. Hall of Famer.
Hall ofer when you look across at all the coaches is there is there a guy that you have uh that you just like beating more than you like beating the other coaches well i i think a big reason we've been really successful is we all do respect each other and it takes all of us to have a great league so uh coach self and i came in at the same time 20 years ago i was able to and blessed to learn from the Eddie Sutton's, the Bob Knight's, the Kelvin Sampson's, the Rick Barnes, the Tubby Smith's. Again, players want to play against the best.
Coaches want to coach against the best. Coach Huggins, we've got two Hall of Fame coaches coaching right now.
Coach Huggins, you guys got any food in here? He's going to want to eat too. So make sure you got something.

But he's a Hall of Famer for a good reason.

So I love the path of your career just because you are the epitome

of what is difficult about college coaching.

I know you guys get paid a lot, and it's a job a lot of people want.

But you, for the longest time until you won a national title

and had all this success, you were the epitome of you recruit really well and then if you don't have the results everyone's like well he stinks at coaching and then if you recruit bad but you coach well it's like well he stinks at recruiting so that had to have bothered you at some point because clearly you do both very very well but like that that path to get to the point where it all came together was it was it tough you're hearing that outside noise? Yeah, we like to say stay focused, don't listen to the outside noise, but we're all human. I mean, just like you guys, you want to hear people say they like your show, they like what you do, and coaches are the same way.
We want to be appreciated and valued, respected, and that's a tough thing in our profession. If you don't win, it's either you recruit well and you can't coach or you can coach but you can't recruit well.
And at the end of the day, we've been blessed to have great staffs, great players, and hence we've been able to, like us in Kansas, the only two Power 5 programs since 2008 to win 18 or more a year. And that's, I mean, you say 18, that's not a lot, but that's how hard it is to consistently win, you know? And I mean, look at Wisconsin.
They've been so consistent in basketball and football. But year in and year out, it's hard.
Yeah, no, Wisconsin does recruit medium and play medium. That's the way to do it.
Because I think that's, because it is, it does suck when you get great recruits and you don't have the on-court results and everyone's like well i'd rather still have the great recruits yeah but people get upset about it and it's a very difficult job to like manage because the expectations go so crazy and they're 18 year old kids does that i would imagine that has to be the hardest part is like when you're at allen field house and you're you know down five you know with two minutes left and you look in the huddle and it's 18-year-old kids and you're asking them to make big-time decisions and big-time plays with all that pressure, how do you get that or instill that confidence in them? Well, first, hopefully we got some 21- and 22-year-olds mixed in that huddle. Yeah, for sure.
But they come to Baylor because they fit,

and they fit spiritually, academically, cultural-wise.

They want to go against the best.

So they want those moments, but they're human too,

and our job is to serve them, to bring out the best in them.

I mean, you guys get done with the show, and you're like, we nailed it.

You know when you do well.

I mean, players, same thing.

They want to be able to know that they left it all on the table and when things work out right and you get a big win on the road and it's hard. When I first got to Baylor, Roy Williams said, toughest league to win on the road.
You've got to win your home games. I think that's so true in the Big 12.
I don't know why. Great players, coaches, environments.
Every conference has that, but it is really hard to win on the road in the big 12 and there's no feeling like when you get a road win yeah how do you balance that you mentioned that it'd be nice to have you know a couple 21 and 22 year olds that stick around you've got a player that's going to go to the nba they're at the place where they could be drafted might not be a lot a lottery pick but they're certainly on their way to being pro. How do you balance their financial future with your desire? Because ultimately, you probably would like to have the best players that you could have on your team.
But you look down the line, you also want to be able to recruit players and say, hey, if it's in your financial interest, I'm going to tell you to go to the NBA. How do you balance those two? Great question.
Thank you. Great question.
Normally you'll love it when us and Gonzaga are the only two programs that have the back-to-back top 10 picks. You love it when you have a top 10 pick like last year was Jeremy Sohan for us.
Actually our sixth man, sixth leading scorer. So don't always think you got to put up the numbers.
You got to play all the minutes. It's what you do well in the time you're given.
But ninth pick in the draft the year before, Davion Mitchell, ninth pick in the draft. That's when it's a home run.
Normally you say first round, you come out. Second round, you probably go back.
But if you're one of the top second rounders, usually you get guaranteed money. So we like them to just be lottery picks.
That's what we want. Last year we had two one-and-dones.
Kendall Brown went with the Pacers. Hopefully he's going to have a great NBA career.
Hopefully Jeremy has a great career with the Spurs. But that's the tough thing in college sports is you have to have talent and you have to have experience.
So to have three- or four-year players, usually if they're not playing early, they transfer out. and if they play a lot when they're young they're probably pros and they're gone so finding that mix is really in that balance that's why you guys have a lot more hair and look a lot better than I do right now yeah it's still gray so it's so I got a clock ticking over here yes you mentioned Gonzaga and um some some in this office called it the most anticipated national title game of all time uh it's great game but my question to you is watching that game it was so apparent pretty much like right from the jump that you guys it was like a men versus boys kind of situation i'm not taking anything away against gonzaga but your guys just looked physically more dominant and stronger and like sometimes basketball down to, like, who's got the broader shoulders and is taller down in the paint.
When was the moment during that game where you're like, yeah, we got this? Like, I feel good. When the final horn went off.
No, come on. You had to – come on.
There had to be a moment somewhere in the second half where you're like, yep, we're doing this. Well, I can tell you that there's a reason they were undefeated and ranked number one all year long.
A tremendous team. Coach Fuse, a Hall of Fame coach.
So, truly, I can tell you that coaches never feel like, and that's what makes college sports. Look at our game versus North Carolina, biggest comeback in NCAA history to force overtime.
You really don't feel comfortable when they put in their subs at the end of the game with about two minutes to go. That's when I knew we had a championship, and I'm being honest with that because you want your players so focused on each and every possession.
And such an explosive team, you know they can come back at any time. Nah, I don't buy it.
I bet on Gonzaga in that game, and I knew I was dead like five minutes into the game. When Wisconsin is up in the championship game, I promise you're going to be nervous to the end.
Well, it happened. They were up in half, and it's mean that you would do that.
They lost. I'll ask this question for Big Cat because it tails nicely with that Wisconsin championship appearance.
When the time comes for you to retire

and it's time to hang it up and step away from Baylor,

I want to come here and be full-time on this show.

That's what I am.

You're a basketball analyst.

Are you going to hypothetically take an entire year

where you go around the country and you collect prizes and gifts

and things like that,

and then maybe lose in your conference championship game and do all all this like kansas yeah lose yeah maybe lose twice to kansas yeah in your in your final on senior night maybe something like that or are you going to just when the times come you're just going to walk away hey you know in coaching this the the stress pressure and everything that you you deal with um one thing i can tell you life is a blessing, and none of us can talk about what tomorrow may bring. So, like, we joke because we use thumbprints to get in our office, and after a loss, sometimes our thumbprint doesn't work, and you're like, we just got the Ziggy.
You know? So, whenever the good Lord says it's time to hang it up, that will be the time to hang it up hopefully the last game I

coach is a game that we win because you always want to go out on top so uh and and my dad was able to go out on his own accord and had the coach had the four named after him hall of fame coach and uh at the end of the day very few coaches are able to go out on their own on their own timing and you want to be able to do that because you love the institution that you're at last so um i'm praying that it ends well wherever i finish because i want to have that feeling okay so speaking of your family do you think winning the national title you finally have the more famous moment than your brother because i don't think so no my brothers because that 1998 moment uh, the only time where truly I lost it, he dove on the floor.

Everyone jumped on top of him.

I was smart enough to know to wait to get on the top of that, not on the bottom.

But for a moment, we all just jumped on the pile, and it was such an awesome feeling.

Still one of the best memories in college athletics. They show it every March Madness, and it's got to probably – it doesn't hurt you, but it's got to be like, hey, he does have that over me forever.
One of the most iconic March Madness shots. Well, you know when people call me Bryce and I sign his name, it's just it is what it is, right? Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Actually, could you sign this ball, Bryce? I'd rather have his autograph. The ball that you brought in is very orange.
The balls got oranger last year, didn't they? Yeah, these are the new balls. Maybe it's still shade you have.
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Two or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. Good question.
But I did notice that the balls got a little bit more orange last year, and the bright colors remind me that I wanted to ask you about your bright uniforms that you wear sometimes because we're dumb. We're dumb sports fans.
We watch at home, and we see the neon green, and we think, oh, that looks cool. They look faster.
They look like they can jump higher in the neon uniforms. Do you do any actual grading of how the referees treat you based on how flashy your uniforms are? No, but I can tell you that I thought it helped us with our turnovers for a short period of time there because we always knew where each other was on the court.
Yeah. But we were actually the first school to have that neon, and I know the players loved it and look good, feel good, play good.
And if it helps with turnovers, great. So if you had to pick one attribute a basketball player could have, what would you pick? One guy.
Like the guy has this. You know you can figure out everything else.
I mean, that's it. Yeah, one.
Okay, so assuming they have some athletic talent. They have athletic talent.
They're raw. They're as raw as could be, but they do one thing elite.
What is the one thing elite you want? I think it's something a lot of coaches wish more players had nowadays, and that's a motor. Okay.
And if a guy really plays hard, competes every possession, they're going to get better. It's the ones that don't compete hard enough all the time to make the mistakes to get better um and there's a lot of players that aren't great athletes or great skill level but they play so hard good things happen okay you could have said shooting but yeah i like that answer well we have shooting right now so i'm gonna say no it's a good answer because it is you know you do see it a, especially in college sports where there's one guy out there who is just working harder than everyone.
And usually the ball finds them, usually plays bounce their way. And you can you can like it jumps out on the screen when it's someone who's just using that extra bit to get up and down the court or box out.
I love those guys, the high motor guys. They're the best.
I tell you like motor guys. The box out guys.
Big Cat pretty big. He likes those guys with motor.
I do. I do.
They don't get a lot of shine. They don't get a lot of shine.
This is actually kind of a serious question. I usually don't have it.
We usually just keep things pretty light. You brought it up earlier about fitting in spiritually at Baylor is something that you look for.
Obviously, your faith is very important to you. I've been praying for you guys.
Oh, thank you. I need someone to.
Guess what? My gambling picks haven't been better, so pray a little more. You pray a little more.
I got you. Bless your heart is what I always like to say.
So it's something that's important to Baylor. Obviously, it's a faith-based institution in its own way.
When you recruit somebody, if they don't subscribe to your particular brand of Christianity,

is that actually something that you take into account when you're recruiting somebody for Baylor?

Great question.

So the first recruit that we had there was Mamadou Gian, who had a Muslim background.

And we've had people that have come from all different denominations, different faiths. The big thing is Baylor is the largest Baptist school in the nation, so we are going to pray with our guys, and we want them to know how we run our program and make sure they don't feel uncomfortable because we don't want them to feel uncomfortable, and there's other programs where they might feel more comfortable.
At the same time, this is what we do and do it and if you want to be a part of it we all sin we're all saved through grace and faith so um uh if someone wants to grow spiritually uh if they want to grow academically uh and if they fit our our character and we have a baylor built program to help with that prepare them for life after basketball filling out a resume how to do interviews whatnot that's what I love about college that's what I love about Baylor all three of my kids were born in Waco Texas and it's a great family atmosphere our former players come back we just took our team to see Jeremy Soana in his first start he got the assignment to Garden um but I mean like that that's what we brought him this championship ring from last year so uh but I love that like there's nothing better than when our past players come back in the summer it's yeah it's a good answer so if there's like a five-star atheist you're like hey we'd love to have you come play basketball but just know we're going to be praying a lot if you don't like that yeah because we wouldn't we wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable right you know yeah so i think that's fair yeah i like that answer so less serious question a little birdie told me uh at one point in your coaching career bob knight might have uh given you a talking to in a bathroom about negative recruiting is that true uh Coach Knight's talked to a lot of people during his career.

But one thing about Coach Knight is he's always going to say what's on his

mind, and you respect that.

But in a bathroom.

So tell us.

Did it happen?

He just saw you in a bathroom?

Well, obviously when you're in the bathroom, you can't go anywhere

until you're done, right?

So you're going to listen.

But, yeah, he did talk to me in the bathroom you you can't go anywhere till you're done right so you're gonna listen and uh but uh um yeah he did he did talk to me in the bathroom wait were you currently at a at a stall when this was happening yeah i was at a stall he got you he got me i think he was at a stall too though so it ended when both of us were done yeah i like that that's a great point you can You can't run away. Yeah.
Can you pitch us? Act like we're two five-star recruits right now. Like I'm a scrappy little point guard.
He's – I'll be a center. Yeah, I'll be a center.
You're a defensive specialist. And we're a package deal.
So you're in our living room right now. So do you have eligibility? Because if you do, then I'll come with it a little harder.
Yeah. Max eligibility.
I college so i'm sure that i have well i mean i mean first of all we've talked about it the league the big 12 if you want to play in the best league and then basketball wise in the last three years where the winning is power five program in the country three years in a row we've been ranked number one back-to-back lottery picks uh we've had 17 pros uh during our staff's time at baylor and if you like uh preparing champions for life uh you want to be a part of a family uh this is a school for you and we really have a culture of a bunch of hard workers high character guys uh iron sharpens iron uh if we have a room full of us four um and you three are in the gym i'm going to be in the gym. If you three are at parties, I'm going to probably be at a party.
So we want guys that they want to get to the NBA, they're going to have to be in the gym. So we want a culture of guys that really want to work and are dedicated on and off the court because if you're not in the gym, hopefully you're studying to stay eligible and get the degree.
But that's really been our culture has been why people have come in with zero star ratings. I mean, my favorite one was Freddie Gillespie.
He played four, averaged four minutes a game and had four points total at Carleton College, Division III school in Minnesota. He walks on at Baylor, ends up starting, and then from Baylor plays 20 games for the Raptors.
You could have just said neon jerseys, by the way. I was looking for that.
Also, do we have to run suicides? Well, we have neon jerseys for you. Do we have to run suicides? Only if you turn it over.
Okay. All right.
I go like that. I want to be an NFL tight end.
Is your school the correct place for me to play basketball? Yeah, we can do that too. Okay.
Although I will tell you the first tight end we ever had come over, he he came over and after two or three zigzags he stops gets a big hawker and spits it on the court like we're not on the field yeah right you can't be doing that you know I mean what's going on yeah that's yeah you can't we had to break that down to him yes um all right so coach I had one last question for you this has been awesome we. We appreciate you coming by.
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So I remember I found a tweet that after the bubble tournament, the tweet says Scott Drew just came over and personally thanked the media for its coverage. So we would like to say you're welcome for saying thank you to us because we were part of the coverage.
We weren't in the bubble. But thank you.
Well, thank you guys. No, thank you.
Thank you. No, thank you for thanking us.
Yes, yes. So you don't hate the media.
That's nice. No, no.
You guys have a job to do. Yeah, you've got a job to do too.
We've got a job to do too, and to be honest, I mean, we have so much in common. I mean, we love sports.
Yeah, we love sports. And so who doesn't love talking about sports? And the one thing that honestly I felt bad for a team that won it all is the media is such a big part of that Final Four experience.
And it was great that those that were able to cover it and how they covered it. But I wish they'd had a chance to have all the face and interactions because i mean that's that's all part of the memory as well yeah and and again we wouldn't have uh sports without without what you guys do so we're on the same time you're right you're right we're right we pay your bills we're more important than even the players are i think no that's right that's a good answer um if you really want to get some buzz going, I know you're not a negative guy.

Well, no, Bob Knight would disagree. If I could give you some advice on how to generate some good buzz for the Big 12 in this media blitz.
They told me to take my shirt off here and we were good. I'm going to save that for hugs.
By the way, do you have some sunglasses for Big Cat if hugs, takes his shirt off? Oh, yeah. I'm going to puke.
Yeah. I was just going to say you could say that Oklahoma and Texas are scared

for leaving the Big 12. They don't want to smoke in the future.
They're trying to get away from you guys. Taking the easy way out.
I would say that. Would you say that? You keep talking.
I would also say that. I'll double that.
You're not disagreeing.

Our league's going to be great moving forward.

I will personally miss the rivalries we've had.

They've had great coaches, great players,

a lot of respect for their institutions,

and we wish them the best of luck in the SEC.

But we know where the Big 12's heading.

And just like your show's heading to the top,

we're going right there too. And they're cowards.

Quotes, make sure you write that. Jake Scott Drew said Texas A.
Oklahoma are cowards. But it might have been Big Cat that said that.
I would like it noted also that he made sure to specify they've had great players and great coaches at those two schools, but he did not say great teams at those schools without rings. Yeah, interesting.
Interesting. This buzz going yeah good buzz we'll just manufacture it you're not gonna be thanking the media after this um all right coach thank you so much though we really appreciate you stopping by and best of luck this year well thanks for all you guys do appreciate it scott drew was brought to you by blue nile whether you're looking to pop, have a milestone to celebrate, or want to let your love sparkle, Blue Nile can help you make your celebrations even more memorable.
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All right. I mean, you're the definition of a Hall of Fame coach through and through.
Well, thank you. And a guy that we love.
Well, I appreciate all that. And you look skinny.
Now you're lying. Okay, yeah.
You caught me in that one. You had the Fitbit on? Do I have the Fitbit on? I don't know what it is.
My wife got it for me. Yeah, we had a theory that you just had the Fitbit and you'd put it on your players for practice and you'd come home and be like, look.
No, but that's a hell of an idea. Yeah, I just gave you a good.
That one's for free. That's a great idea.
Yeah, just like, look, honey, I ran five miles today. Because you have that treadmill.
I thought putting it on a dog's collar worked. Yeah, yeah.
I gave you the best idea. So how you guys have been going around doing the media.
I'd have to imagine this is not your favorite day of the year. You'd probably rather be hanging out at your house, just sitting on your couch than going around and talking to media all day.
Well, put it this way.

I've had a lot more fun numerous other times.

Than today.

That's fair.

That's absolutely fair.

That's absolutely fair. Is there any small part of you that enjoys beating the drum for the Big 12?

Do you have any conference pride at all,

or is it like you're doing what you're doing at West Virginia

and you're happy to continue focusing on that? No, I've got a lot of conference pride at all or is it like you're doing what you're doing at West Virginia and you're happy to continue focusing on that no I've got I've got a lot of conference pride when you when you look at the numbers they're astounding because I I did had no idea you know I went to Kansas State for a year and and loved it there loved the people people treated me like a king I loved it there but um I mean, at the end of the day, I knew nothing about the Big 12. And my first trip into the – was the coaches meeting, and that was when one of the guys fouled one of Coach Knight's guys and broke his nose or something, and Coach went off.
And I'm sitting there like, wow, I like this a lot better. You know, it's kind of this just get stirred up a little yeah but uh yeah what what about uh your your former school coming to the big 12 because that's what happened in a couple years cincinnati will be in the big 12 are you are you ready for for that every year home and away i don't have any choice do i no i well you could just not show up well i know but the last time i checked they didn't let me vote on it yeah that's true that is true i should get a vote but you should i didn't get one yeah have you been back to cincinnati as a coach i was back last i believe it was last tuesday oh they brought back west west is a great guy you gotta have west on here.'s a great guy Wes brought back all of my former guys and their wives and I don't know if they brought back children or not but he did an unbelievable job brought all of those final four guys back they lined everybody up on a 20 yard line the second quarter.
I think it was the second quarter. And the ovation from the fans was absolutely incredible.
That's got to feel nice to know that, like, you're loved in many different parts of the country and places that you had an impact on. Well, I think they loved that group.
Yeah. And anytime you go to Final Four, it's special.

Yeah, yeah.

Especially when you haven't done it for as long as they hadn't done it for.

I think the last time was Oscar and the crew.

Is there a part of the country where they don't like Bob Huggins?

I haven't found it yet.

Yeah.

I think you're universally loved.

Isn't that something?

Yeah.

The only people that I think say bad things about you are are your opponents after you beat them yeah generally yeah yeah that does happen um we so we were when when this was presented to us and it was like hey big 12 coaches are coming through we're like oh yeah obviously we want huggy bear back on the show and bill self was supposed to come with you guys. I think he dipped out last second.
Do you think it was because he saw us on the list and was like, these guys are definitely going to ask about my toupee? Could be. Okay.
I mean, I've always asked about it. What did he say? He just says, you know, gives me the wave off.
Get out of here. Yeah.
Is it when, like, like a Kansas because obviously they're a rival and you play against them but when it does come to tourney time and you're watching the final four are you rooting for your conference for conference pride yeah okay because that's always a weird thing that you got to switch your brain Bill and I actually are friends right so you know we get along great we've along great. We've got along since I was at K-State.
Yeah. And, I mean, he messes with me and I mess with him and we kind of enjoy it.
And then when the game starts, you've got another whatever it is they put in there. It seems like 20,000, but it's probably not quite that many.
Yeah. And they screaming calling your names and just acting fools yeah is that the toughest place to play yeah because you know it's it's uh i gotta watch what i say because if i tell the truth then i'll get accused of something that i won't really mean so um the referees there are kind of, you know.
What did it mean? I said it. I said it.
Coach didn't say it. I said it.
Tough place to play. They pump in noise.
Oh, my God. And, you know, it's an old building, so it just reverberates, and you try to call timeout and talk to your guys, and they know you're calling time they don't do it when he calls time out interesting but when we have time out and you just you can't hear a thing yeah yeah um have you had to have any talks with your players over the years about not doing the horns down sign when you play against texas is that a coaching point for you that doesn't bother me at all but can it be like a a technical You know, I don't know.
They tried to do something about it in football, but I haven't heard anything about it in basketball, and they're gone now. Some would say that they're cowards for leaving the Big 12.
Well, I don't think Chris had anything to do with it, so you can't blame Chris. That was well above Chris's head.
Yeah. But they're cowards.
We'll say. Yeah.
They're their administration. Yeah.
We'll say it. They're ducking you.
What about, you know, I think the one thing with a guy like you who's had success through so many different eras, like adapting to the change in college sports, have you I would imagine you're very pro NIL and the being able to to make money because that's you've always been able to adapt to different styles and how how the game has evolved is that fair that's fair that's fair but you're talking to a guy who got ten dollars a month and had to stand in line to get it yeah that's what we got you know now guys are now guys are making all that money and they you know they got cars you know the best thing about them getting cars they don't ask to borrow mine anymore yeah that's true they got their own yeah so yeah i mean it's it's a different world yeah it's it's a totally different world but it's not it's not bad and i mean let's face it there have been changes i mean throughout our lifetimes that people said oh well that'll never last or that'll never work and then all of a sudden somebody walks out of there with about 100 million dollars or something yeah yeah you can either try to fight the change or you can try to adapt with it and be the best at it that's right those are kind of your options uh how are kids doing these days with the running with the sprinting i know you love those treadmills you saw the legendary treadmills next to the practice floor do kids not want to run anymore how do you get a player to buy in and be like okay i guess i have to put in my work well you know our first whatever week or so forth i didn't you know and when we counted turnovers i think we turned it over 27 times

the first the first practice and then then they got it all the way down to 24 i think and that was about all i could take so i said after practice you know how y'all huddle up and you know you're supposed to give them that great word of encouragement i said listen the next time you guys turn it over 24 times or more we're all going to run so I said, listen, the next time you guys turn it over 24 times or more, we're all going to run. So I said all like I was going to.
Yeah, no chance. No, there wasn't any chance.
So I just had them run sprints, and then we put them on the treadmill. Oh, nice.
After the sprints? Yeah. What would it take for you to get on the treadmill with the team? Money-wise? Money-wise or like if you win in the final four? Probably more than you have.
When did you get to the final four? Final four, will you get on the treadmill with your team? Team gets you the final four, you're on the treadmill. Run a mile.
I'm not going to run. I mean, I'll get on there and jog a little bit.
Okay. But I'm not going to run.
Not for a final four? Oh, final four's a given. Yeah, you'd have to get on there for a final four i mean that's i i do love like college basketball you mentioned it with cincinnati but like getting to a final four is an accomplishment and it feels like you know the fans remember that forever yeah but you know what i mean some people are lucky too i mean let's face it i had the best team in america i had a number one pick in the draft i had a number what was he three or four pick in a draft i had a another first round pick i had another six nine who who ended up playing in the nba i had another guard who ended up playing in the nba and all on one team All on one team, and Kenyon broke his leg.
Yeah, and that is still like such a big what-if in college basketball history because you guys were that good. He was setting the screen, and the guy fell into him and broke his leg.
But you know what's really amazing to me, and I've talked to him about this, It blows my mind that a guy like him could broke his leg yeah but you know what's really amazing to me and i've i've talked to him about this it it blows my mind that a guy could like him could break his leg and come back and play 11 years in the nba yeah and be the type of player that he is which is just an explosive explosive athlete yeah i'll bet you nobody's ever done that in the history of sports yeah with a broken leg and leg and come back. And, I mean, that's a lot of running.
That's a lot of jumping and pounding when you think about it. He's an incredible guy.
I think Kenyon Martin is probably the definition of a guy that's got that dog in him. Like, when he came on campus, could you tell from the second he started practicing, this guy's built different? Oh, he had something to prove.
And we had some big, strong big strong tough guys now you don't run from nobody yeah you're you you created a culture at cincinnati that i still there's some college teams that it's like even if the coach hasn't been there and what it's been like over a decade decade plus 15 years whatever it's been i still think of cincinnati and i think of like they just rebound the hell out of the ball maybe not the best shooters all the time but they'll just play you tough no matter what we just missed those on purpose to build so that rebounding yeah so the rebounding stats kind of ballooned but it's like it's like chip kelly at oregon like i still think of you know oregon is like this fast-paced chip kelly instilled that you are that for cincinn, where I could watch a Cincinnati game in 20 years, and I'd be like, well, I know they're going to rebound, and I know they're going to play hard. That's Bob Huggins.
Without a question. Yeah.
Without a question, but, I mean, fellas, let's face it. Athletically, I had guys nobody else had.
Yeah. I mean, Mel Leavitt with a 40-some-inch some inch vertical jump he said can i jump over a car

and i'm like what midnight madness he says i want to jump over a car i'm like what the hell you want to jump over a car for he said oh you don't don't go crazy absolutely crazy i said all right go ahead he jumps over a car swings on the rim swings himself around like he's you know just came off of a what are they called trampoline not trampoline i thinks it's swing he comes off of there and lands right in the driver's seat starts the car drives it out of the building that's special it's incredible i incredible. I wonder if we could find video of that.
How did he practice that? How did he practice then? Yeah. No, how did he practice dunking into a car? I feel like that's something that you have to just do one time.
I got no idea. That's incredible.
He just came to you and said, I want to jump over a car. I can't even imagine how athletic you'd have to be to pull that off.

Well, I sent him down.

I sent him down. All the pro scouts are in, football guys are in.
So I sent him down there. I said, can he just run? I just want you to, you know, I want to see how fast he can run.
The guy said, yeah, he can run with the guy. So he runs like a sub four.
he was six foot four, probably 215 pounds, maybe a little bit more. They went in and did his vertical.
The guy said, we've never seen anybody jump like this. He said, did he play? I said he played football in high school.
They said, wow. So he said, did you talk to him about playing football? I said, i said i haven't but i will i said mel you're gonna be a first round draft pick with your numbers you're gonna be a first round draft pick if you play football i ain't playing no football that hurts he said i'm going to the nba coach i don't i don't need that what what a guy like that or even a kenyan martiner you know and you can list anyone you've coached, you know, in your career.
When they have that type of raw talent, like what do you – do you get out of the way and you're like just go out there and play because you're so incredible? Or is there something that you specifically try to give them that's like a tool, like, hey, this is what you've got to do better to take it to the next level? Well, yeah, you try to help them go to the next level. Like we played Oakland and greg camp he's a very dear friend but his whole goal was not to let us get a rebound yeah so he put five guys in the lane well mel's standing wide open in the corner so he makes like 11 threes or something like that i'm thinking we could trick the nba guys with this now yeah send the send the tape yeah hey look he threes.
Yeah. He's a shooter.
Yeah. Shoot first.
Not only can he jump, but he did get drafted. He got drafted by Detroit.
Yeah. I love your defenses that do, what do you call it, like the ghost press? Mm-hmm.
The little fake press that you put on them sometimes? Simulated pressure, yeah. Can you walk me through, one, why you guys do simulated pressure, not actual pressure? And two, I've been trying to figure out why the NBA, why no coaches ever use any sort of a full-court press at that level, if not just in very, you know, in limited use as just one tool in their bag.
Probably because they play 100 games. Yeah.
That probably has something to do with it. Get exhausting trying to do that.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I mean, you can't line up and do the same thing time after time after time after time and not think that pretty soon they'll figure out something. So I think when you run a ghost press and and you do different things it makes them think about the different things and and so they're not as keyed in on the thing that you do the best yeah that makes sense um i want to say by the way a belated uh thank you for having dave's back with roger goodell that was you were very vocal people who don't remember, Dave, our boss, won a charity auction to go watch a game with Roger Goodell in his basement.
They pulled it, and you were at the forefront being like, this isn't right. You have to let him.
It wasn't right. Yeah.
It wasn't right. I feel like you've got to know at least someone who knows Roger Goodell.
We've got to get him on the phone and be like hey listen i'm not a football guy not at all well i like football yeah i played football in high school but i'm not a i'm not a yeah we gotta we gotta find a way to because that was it was very funny that bob huggins out of the clouds was like we got to stand up to this injustice yeah but you guys you got enough you got, NFL guys, or former NFL guys that are on radio now. Yeah.
Yeah, the trick is the NFL guys, they've been compromised by Roger Goodell to some extent in the past. Oh.
So, yeah, they've got a relationship that they have to maintain there. It would be great if, like, the day you do retire, and I hope you coach for a very long time that you're like, I'm retiring and now I'm going to just work full time on getting Dave into Roger Goodell's basement.
Yeah, I'll work on getting both of us in. Okay, perfect.
Yes. I wouldn't mind going in.
Yeah, he's got a nice chair. Why not? Why not? Watch a little ball.
A little bit I've seen on TV, he looks pretty comfortable. He does.
35 million a year, not bad. Is there, I hate to talk about retirement, but is there a time? Are you thinking about maybe in five years, ten years, whatever? I don't have a timeline.
I like it. I don't know.
I don't think about those things. Yeah.
I mean, honestly, I don't. I don't think about those things.
People ask me, like, how long have you been coaching? I have absolutely no i don't i don't keep track of those things did you know when you were approaching was it 900 wins you had to have known that i didn't i couldn't help but know it yeah they were just talking about it all the time well i mean everybody in six states told me yeah yeah you know you're you know you're gonna get 900 wins, I didn't really pay attention. I like that.
That's a great style to have. You said when you passed Roy Williams, I'm not going to quit until I beat Roy in something.
That's right. Yeah.
And so that was one of your big marks. So this year, what's success like? What are your goals? Win them all.
Win them all and go win a national championship. How is the team working? Hoist a trophy.
Bring it to Barstool. Set it on the table.
Yes. You can host part of my take.
Yes. You can host it.
I get part of your pay if I host it. I will give you all three of my Bored Ape NFTs that I get as payment per podcast if you want to sit here and host this show for one episode after you win an Addy.
That's a standing offer. That's very fair.
I want to win a national championship first. Yeah.
Yeah. All right, so, Coach, I had one last question.
I want to do a little down memory lane with you. It's a rowback question.
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I want to show you a picture.

It's still one of my favorite pictures.

It's probably Big 12 Media Day.

So right around now, it was eight years ago, they made you get in a suit.

And I've never seen anyone more uncomfortable in a suit in my entire life you can see yourself back there i know and some of these guys act like they like it yeah so what when they tell you you got to put on the suit are you like no hell no or do you just you know that's part of the job like once a year you got to put on a suit or the gold suit i don't i don't have to put it on anymore really no never because they lessened it right they well i know they have in the nba as well but well i i wore i wore a pullover one year and then self-wore it and then it kind of then it becomes law then then nobody really wanted to wear a suit anymore yeah yeah yeah the gold suit though is the best your your gold yeah if you got to wear a suit you might as well I mean, if you want to look like a fool, look like a suit anymore. Yeah.
Yeah. The gold suit, though, is the best.
Your gold suit. Yeah, if you've got to wear a suit, you might as well wear a suit.
I mean, if you want to look like a fool, look like a real fool. That's kind of the motto of this podcast, actually.
Yeah, it is. I do like the pullover look because it's like you and Bill Belichick are the only guys that I see constantly pulling off the...
We're changing the face of college basketball. Have you noticed how many guys are wearing pullovers now? Yeah.
Yeah, but you're the one that started. I think you pull it off more than anybody.
And other than you guys, I get no credit for it. Yeah, we give you credit.
Let the record show if somebody's got a shirt on like that, that's a Huggy Bear special. Like old Scott Drew was in here, and he gave me no credit for the pullover.
No credit. None.
Zero. I asked Scott this question.
I'll ask it to you, too.

West Virginia, a basketball school or a football school?

Basketball school.

I think that's probably.

Got the tradition, yeah.

That's a fair answer.

Kevin Pinsnoggle.

Well, when you think about it, I mean, think about this.

Let's go Rod Hunley, Jerry West, Rod Thorne, Fritz Williams. How about that? That's five big-time players, big-time pros.
Will Robinson. Will Robinson averaged 29 a game.
29. It's hard to do.
As a guard? Yeah. 29 a game.
How about those six guys? And then somebody says, well, what's your tradition? Can you read? Yeah. You know? I think you just say Jerry West.
It's like, okay, yeah, that's pretty iconic right there. Certainly everybody, Jerry's the first name mentioned.
Yeah. But Hot Rod Hunley in his day was like, because Rod did

all kind of crazy things.

He shot a layup one time.

This is in the old field house.

So he runs out the door

and everybody's like looking

like, where'd Rod go?

And everybody's like looking,

where'd Rod go?

He runs by the athletic director

who's getting a hot dog

at the concession stand.

And he said,

Rod, what are you doing?

He said, I've lost my man. Can you help me find him and just kept on running ran back in the other door that's pretty cool no he did a lot of crazy stuff yeah do you miss dana having coach holgerson around yes i do yeah i mean he's the good friend of ours yeah dana and i are very dear friends yeah yeah you guys keep in touch? You should have bought his house.
His house is pretty nice. Mine's not bad.
What's wrong with mine? We haven't been to your house. We slept at Dana's house.
Oh, you did? Yeah. He's got Red Bulls in every room.
I was at Dana's house when he was trying to prove to me that he had better sound in his movie room. you know he had better sound in his, whatever it's called, his movie room.
He had better sound than I had in mine because he had been in mine earlier. So he cranks it up the whole way and blew out all the speakers.
Oh, I love it. I love it.
So it's official then. You had better sound than Coach Holgerson did.
Oh, without a question. Yeah.
Just a little sound's better than no sound.

Yeah, that's very true.

And he had no sound.

He had no sound at the end of that competition.

Well, Coach, thank you so much for stopping by.

We always root for you.

Consider you a friend.

And, yeah, let's win a national title and get you on that treadmill.

Appreciate you guys.

Yeah, thanks.

Are you guys going to get on one too?

Yeah, I will.

Yes.

If you go to a Final Four, I'll be on a treadmill.

I'll run a mile.

We'll put them all, three of them together.

You'll be in the middle, and we'll all run a mile together.

Run.

Now, wait a minute.

Run's a big word.

Yeah, run.

Three letters.

Run's a big word.

I mean, you guys will kill me.

No, it's not a race.

If we're all running the same speed.

Yeah, we'll run the same speed. We'll do the same speed.
We'll go like 6.1. You guys run.
I don't. I sit around and get fatter.
You think I run? Why don't we run at 3.2 miles per hour? That's perfect. I don't know.
I don't know how fast that is. That's a walk.
That's a walk. We can just walk it.
That's a walk. Yeah, it's a walk.
It's a strong. I can walk it.
Yeah. All right, so we'll do that.
We'll do a mile at 3.2. Mm-hmm.
I can walk it.

We're in the final four.

I think it's Houston this year.

Real quick, you know what I did one time?

What?

I had a guy who just really class-wise, he just didn't.

He had a hard time.

I mean, not doing a class, going.

So I said, you got to run the stadium upstairs.

I ain't running.

I said, you're not running.

He said, I'm not running. I said, you know, then you're out of here so i'm going home he was good he was good i said wait a minute i got another idea for you i'll run with you so i start running the stadium stairs football stadium stairs so i run i get almost all the way around i think i'm gonna die and and and he's like come on you can do it come on come on you can do it he grabs all of my shirt starts pulling i said slapped his hand i said get off of me man i'm not the one that's a screw up you are he said come on you can do it he said come on so he finishes and then he starts this like a crazy man running up and down up and down say

come on hucks come on come on come on i'm cutting across you know i'm not going up i'm cutting

across just to trick him into thinking i actually ran yeah he ran he ran all the way around the

second time went to class there it is you taught him a lesson somehow i don't know how he taught

me one don't ever do that again yeah yeah but it was worth it. He was good.
That's incredible, yeah. So he went from threatening to quit because he didn't feel like running to loving running so much that he was trying to get you to run.
Yeah. He didn't love it that much.
He was trying to torture me. Yeah, yeah.
He's like, all right, if I'm getting punished, you are too. Yeah.
Well, he played a long time in the NBA. Yeah.
Who, that is crazy. Holy shit.
Who won? Go ahead. Tell us who won.
West Virginia won 31-26. Okay.
I'm adding over to the card. Yep.
Okay. I'm going to bet that exact score.
My firefest is my voice in general. Like, always hated my voice being sick and having the stuff in my throat.
Being scared to talk is not fun. Yeah, you've got a frog in your throat.
Unlike Billy, and usually Billy's in the frog's throat. That's really good.
That's a good one. Thanks.
So that's been a Firefest in general. Yeah, I got frogs in your throat, probably in your throat too, PFT.
So I apologize. Apologize to the listeners.
Yeah. Although I'm sure they are not fans of my voice in general because I certainly am not.
My other Fyre Fest kind of goes back to my last week's Fyre Fest about being obsessed with Game of Thrones. Still am.
Still thinking about it constantly. And I had like it just, you know, a light bulb went off my head.
Obviously on Sunday nights or when we're recording, so we don't, I can't watch it live. I'm not live tweeting.
I have everything muted. I save everything until Monday to watch.
I think that's an unspoilable show, by the way. I can't remember anyone's name.
Well, so I see this. I see the name scrolling on Sunday.
They're like, this fucking guy died. I'm like, I don't know who that guy is.
So Amon is the kid that... No, don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't start telling us the names.
All right. I just don't know anyone's name.
One kid's name is Amon. And Amon, not Amon.
Amon. And I have a...
Like, if I was live tweeting the show... Max has his fingers in his ear like he's a four-year-old in a fire truck's going by.
If I was live tweeting the show and something happened, I could tweet fucking Eamon. Oh.
And it would slap. So why don't you just do it next week? Yeah.
I guess, but then I don't want to, I don't know when it's going to happen. Also, I feel like people aren't live-tweeting this Game of Thrones

like they were last time.

I have everything muted, so I don't know.

I don't think they're live-tweeting.

Should I just send it out there?

I'll send it out there on Sunday.

It's football season.

People weren't really tweeting about Game of Thrones

when it was during football season.

That's just not true.

Yeah, no, there's definitely some tweets out there.

People love their dragons.

It's the most popular show of all time.

People love their dragons.

Well, I watch it, but I haven't even muted anything.

I haven't got anything spoiled.

Again, I don't really know who anyone is.

I have to watch it after we record because I can't sleep usually,

and I don't want to get spoiled.

I'm sorry for your loss.

I just didn't watch this week's episode.

That's why I had my ears closed.

I wait a few weeks and then watch three in a row,

and then I just walk away from it being like, I don't know who those people are. Someone died.
Who cares? Amen. Fucking Amen.
Fucking Amen. I just know the crab feeder, because that's a badass name.
It's fucking metal. Okay.
You're a Firefest PFT? My Firefest is now people are just calling me Viserius, or whatever his name. I don't know who that is.
I don't know who that is. He's the old king that's got long hair.
Now I know who that is. That's going bald.
Well, he is pretty much bald. He's like a disease and he's slowly dying.
He's slowly dying. But that's life.
Life is a disease that you catch where you slowly die. Yeah.
What a spin zone. I mean, it's true.
It's true. Everyone's dying.
If you're above the age of 25, you're dying. No, the day you're born is the day you start to die.
Are you dead before you're born? I don't know. Think about that.
Embrace debate. Now we're doing abortion talk.
Are you alive? Are you alive when you're in the womb? Yeah, I don't know. What do you think, Hank? Depends how long.
Heartbeat. So, yeah, that stinks.

But on the other hand, I'm glad.

He's the king.

Yeah.

People are calling you king.

He's the king.

On the other hand, I'm not, like, recklessly bald right now.

It's just something that's happening that's creeping slowly that will not stop.

But I have talked to people.

We've circled the wagons.

We actually had a little support group that stopped by my desk earlier today. Yeah, this in it it was uh it was like cons came over chaps came over and uh and regs came over yeah rigs came over and sounds like they were recruiting you to the ball team well they were basically like they're patting me on my shoulder and be like oh you're good you got like three more years it's like no i don't think that i do but thank you guys i appreciate i appreciate the moral.
But Joey stepped up, and if anybody knows anything about cosmetics, it's Joey from out and about. That's true.
So he's got a guy that's going to give me blood injections that's going to regrow my own hair. That sounds fun.
That's where we're going to – well, it's my own blood. Right.
No, I know that just no matter what, the blood injections in general sounds not fun. Yeah, well, that's the plan right now.

And then if that doesn't work, then I think we're just going to cut it close.

And I'll be a wig guy with various different wigs of shapes and colors, depending on my mood at the time.

Okay.

Yeah.

So it could be a look.

Yeah, that could be a look.

You do put off looks.

I do.

Yeah.

I pull them off.

Yeah, you pull off looks.

So, yeah. I serve looks.
You serve looks. You're serving one right now.
I'm dripped out right now on game day. I missed the sweatpants when he came in.
When PFT came in, I was like, oh, that's a cool sweatshirt. He's like, got the pants, too.
I was like, oh. Full set.
Okay. Full set.
Yeah. All right.
My Fyre Fest is I'm just very, very tired. We're in that part of football season, and I fucked myself.
I think Jake doesn't even know this. On Tuesday, we had Tuesday off.
We tried to record early on Tuesday. It's one of our only nights that we're off.
I was watching the Yankees game, and Garrett Cole looked like he was struggling. I got back in my car.
I came back to work, and I sat here doing other for all the shows on wednesday in the studio hoping the yankees would lose and i could go and troll all the yankee fans and then it just like dawned on me when they won four to one that i was just on my one night off i was at work till like 11 30 p.m so i really fucked myself bad did you know i came back i heard afterwards okay yeah i was gonna why if you guys were like had had a terrible thing happen i was just gonna walk on the stream and just be like we got him next time guys it would have been great but the joke was on me i completely fucked myself that's the addicted i'm addicted to the troll life you got you got cell phoned yeah i got cell phoned is that why you came back to the office that one time when the nats were playing in game seven against the astros? No, that was for support for you. Okay, cool.
Yeah, I trolled the Yankee fans. Gotcha.
I was supporting you. Gotcha.
You asked me to come back, too. I came back with Stella.
That was nice. Yeah.
What an evening that was. Okay, Billy.
So everyone was roasting me for my vibes being calculated into my analytics, and I figured out how they calculate into analytics. This is going to be good.
I have a question before you get started. Before you get started, Billy, how much work did you contribute to this assignment versus how much did StatHole Sports contribute to this assignment? I have not spoken to StatHole Sports.
I saw they reached out to you and offered assistance. I have not spoken to StatHole Sports.
But actually, I might reach out now. I haven't done the exact calculations.
Who else helped you? I actually think this could be calculated. Myself.
I came up with this. It's really not that hard.
100% yourself. It's 100% me.
It's really not that hard. So basically, it all depends on how turnovers are made.
So this only calculates into fourth down and going for two. How are turnovers made, Daddy? A stork.
When a quarterback and a quarterback love each other very much. When a defensive lineman.
Okay. So basically the percentage of converting, a two-point conversion conversion or on fourth down basically gets increased depending on what type of turnover happens before that possession.
So give us a practical example. So – or something that occurs when they receive the ball.
So for example, an interception. Yes.
That multiplies hypothetically. I actually want to look into this because I think it's, there's probably something there after an interception, a fourth down conversion or a two point conversion increases by, let's say, uh, 110%.
Are you just talking about quick change defense when the defense has to rush on the field and try to defend, uh, you know, off an interception. Yeah.

Okay. Couldn't you also say that the offense might not be in a rhythm to run a two-point conversion play? No, because that's after the end of...
So what's the vibe calculation here? So it's just different. I'm already lost.
No, I think I understand what you're saying. So, like, let's say it's, you know, a 40% chance you convert on fourth down.
Right. Fourth and one.
If it's after an interception, it's 110% of 40%, which is 44%. Okay, so 4% increase off an interception.
Right, and then something like interception with a big return is more. Got it.
120%. A big fourth down stop before, that's like 120%.
I'm trying to figure out the exact values, but a fumble recovery will increase it less than a strip sack fumble recovery. Got it.
That makes sense. Or a KO fumble recovery where they knock the person out and then get the ball back.
That makes sense. Or a line mid interception is a huge, that's like 150%.
Okay. Whereas a blocked punt or kick is like 160%.
Or a trick play, fourth down, stop.

Okay.

Or a safety is huge.

Got it.

You know what I'm saying?

So the vibes were high from the second Teddy Bridgewater was hit for safety.

Wait, wait.

And they injured him.

So that's like 170%.

So if your defense gets a safety, then they kick off to your offense. and your offense goes all the way down the field, the vibes are high still? You should go for it on fourth down because you have a vibe increase.
So it's like a power-up. So off a turnover, you think that go for it.
For example, when Tennessee kicked it to Beck on LSU and he fumbled it and they picked it up,

vibes were so high.

They're going for it on fourth down and going for two points.

I'm not a stats or math guy,

but isn't 100% as high as you can go?

No, not with vibes.

You sound like a bad vibe guy.

It sounds like you've got a limited mindset,

and Billy's unlimited.

Imagine living your whole life and never getting the vibes over 100%. That's Hank.
Yikes. Exactly.
Yikes. Couldn't be me.
Yikes. So blogs can come break it down, probably bring up some examples, and maybe there'll be some statistics.
I want tweets. I want live tweets.
Pick a game. Any game.
Pick Bill's Chiefs. Oh, Bill's Chiefs is going to have so many vibes.
Okay, so I want the vibe update, and then we can try to correlate it to gambling. Just a sneaking suspicion that

the vibes will always be high for the Bill's

Chiefs decisions. Correct.

There'll be different games, like the Seahawks

You could try it tonight.

We're taping this this morning.

Oh, that's going to be a bad vibes game.

Or the vibes won't be taken advantage of.

Got it. You forget how bad

the defenses are.

Yeah. Bad vibes.
Okay, Jake, finish us off. Sorry to anyone who is listening with kids in the car after listening to that.
There's a lot of explanations you have to give. What was that man saying about vibes and percentages? Yeah, Monday morning woke up.
Also, that kid, Firefest, that kid, someone tweeted at us. Oh, I retweeted it.
I love that kid. I love.
I pick my kids up from school and they play the ball game. Yeah, and he won.
Fucking, he's better than you. That kid owns you.
Seven years old. Shout out that kid.
What were you going to say? You're a bad parent. Yeah.
For raising a winner?

Yes.

Hank, you should DM that guy and have his son give you picks.

Yeah.

He got you.

He got you.

Sorry, Jake.

Jake.

Cold shower Monday morning.

No hot water.

Wim Hof, though.

What?

The Wim Hof method.

I don't know what that is.

You basically do breathing exercises and get into cold showers, and it makes you live forever.

All right.

That's as far as I got into the Wim Hof method.

Cold showers are good for your HRV, whatever that is.

It's something that's tracked on whoop.

I didn't enjoy it.

I pretend to know what it is.

It just makes your sleep green.

I've tried the cold shower thing, and then it just sucks.

The ice plunge low-key isn't good for muscle growth.

Oh.

Oh, okay.

We were just finding that out.

Well, yeah, because it decreases inflammation, right?

Do you ever get nervous, Billy, that with all the studies that come out,

the studies will just keep disproving the other study,

and we're just going to keep trying all these things?

Like muscle growth, like the cold tub was good for a while now it's low-key not good then maybe we'll get good again are we worried that's how science works okay all right evolving if that's what's been happening with like butter for the last 200 years coffee's a big one butter's good for you butter's not good for you try margarine butter's better than margarine butter's bad for you don't eat butter eat all the butter you want alcohol they always do the the the tweet that basically is like study shows that anyone who drinks at least four beers a week will live to a hundred years old so everyone retweets it like i'm living to infinity quote tweet me um okay numbers hank have you ever gotten this no oh That's too bad. 40.
Someone DM me 40. I'll go 41.

I'm going to go... Okay, numbers.
Hank, have you ever gotten this? No. Oh, that's too bad.
40. Someone DM me 40.

I'll go 41.

I'm going to go 17.

18.

Actually, I'm going to go 39.

39.

You hit 17?

I took 17. I think it's due.

37.

Oh, God, I hope 17. Oh, it's unalive.

17. 17.
Oh, it's out on a live. 17, 17.
33. So close, Hank.
Larry Bird. So close.
You love Larry Bird. I do love Larry Bird.
So close. So the greater white front goose seen in the Dodgers-Padres game last night was probably flying from Canada to Mexico for the winter.

Need a little rest.

Love you guys. Today's a lovely day to find you.
I swear to the same, so you're gone Drink on me Drink on me I'll go to the door to the door Things that you say in lot of display my world anyway?

You all can talk up to them.

You shine away.

All are coming for you anyway.

You shine away.

All are coming for you anyway. Take care.

Take care.

Take care.

Take care. Take care.
Take me out. Take it off me.
Take it off me.

Take it off me.