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Speaker 1 We're also going to do pics and preview of week five in the NFL, Fantasy Billies, because Billy is out of town hunting with Sidney Wells.

Speaker 1 And then Fire Fest of the Week and a quick documentary review because the Redeem team is now out on Netflix, and we're also going to talk about what we just witnessed, Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday,

Speaker 1 I almost said November, October 7th.

Speaker 1 And that was a hell of a game, fellas. We watched Broncos Colts.
It was disgusting.

Speaker 1 And, of course, it ended with Russell Wilson being too afraid to throw the exact same play that he threw the interception in the Super Bowl. K.J.
Hamler wide open on the rub route.

Speaker 1 and the Broncos are booty.

Speaker 5 It was gross. It was deplorable.
And it was awesome. It was a great game of football.
For all the people that left, for all the Broncos fans that headed for the exits before overtime started,

Speaker 5 that's a tough look for you guys. Bad Sports Town, potentially.
We'll put that in the. We're keeping an eye on Denver

Speaker 5 for the bad sports town. They might be the bad sports town of the South.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was bad.

Speaker 1 It was basically just

Speaker 1 so bad. You okay, Hank? It was so bad.
It got funny. Yeah.
And then it got exciting because it was close. And even a bad game that's close is like, ooh, drama.

Speaker 1 And we saw Matt Ryan almost get decapitated. We saw Russell Wilson just...

Speaker 1 Can we just say he stinks? Because he stinks.

Speaker 5 Russell Wilson sucks.

Speaker 5 I think he sucks right now. It's worse than stinks.
He's thrown behind everybody. He's playing like he's scared to do anything.
Anything. He's terrified.

Speaker 5 The play calling. Listen, we interviewed Nathaniel Nathaniel Hackett.
I've tweeted out clips of the interview every Friday, just about for the last month by accident.

Speaker 5 So some people are like, hey, you guys won't ever trash him because he came on your podcast. That might be true, but here's what I'll do instead.
I will trash us for not trashing Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 5 We are fucking frauds, big cat, for not saying anything bad about Nathaniel Hackett because he is, you want to talk about booty cheeks. Nathaniel Hackett is booty cheeks.

Speaker 5 And if we didn't say that, then we're frauds.

Speaker 1 And you know what's weird, though? Like, Nathaniel Hackett has obviously had some very

Speaker 1 public moments of stupidity as a new head coach. I actually don't put this one on him.
This was just Russ playing terrible.

Speaker 1 Like, I actually liked when Nathaniel Hackett went forward on fourth and two to try to win the game, and I liked it. You know, like, I think it was a run-pass option that Russ threw that.

Speaker 1 second interception. Russ was just bad.
Like, you pay the guy $250 million to make plays, to win games.

Speaker 5 He stinks.

Speaker 5 I don't like the play calling at the end of overtime when they were down inside the red zone and they just ran the ball up the middle, ran the ball up the middle, ran the ball up the middle.

Speaker 1 It almost worked. Then guess what? Melvin Gordon got helicopter.

Speaker 5 Then guess what? Fourth down comes. What do you do? We're going to line up in shotgun on fourth and one.
Oh, wait, wait. Wait, timeout.
Let's call it timeout. Let's talk about it again.

Speaker 5 We'll send him out there. He's in shotgun again.

Speaker 1 But again, that play worked. That was Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson didn't, like, that KJ Hamler was wide open. I still

Speaker 5 hate fourth and one out of shotgun.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm just saying, like, Nathaniel Hackett has proven to not be a very good coach thus far. We're hoping that he gets better because we are.

Speaker 1 We did interview him once and would like to interview him again.

Speaker 5 We're being fraudulent.

Speaker 1 Well, because we have a lot of things that we can make fun of him for.

Speaker 1 Like, the best case scenario is Nathaniel Hackett figures it out and wins a couple Super Bowls, and we can interview him again and be like, dude, remember that time when your brain stopped on the sidelines in Seattle in week one of your head coaching career?

Speaker 1 And we can have a great laugh. But I still will maintain, like, this loss is on Russell Wilson.
Those throws are not, they're, you, you're paid $250 million.

Speaker 1 You got traded for, you, you, you asked your way out of a bad sports town to another bad sports town, right, Hank? That's what you were saying. You're like, all these towns are just bad sports towns.

Speaker 1 I think it's

Speaker 1 Seattle. Hank's from Denver.

Speaker 5 I think it follows him around like Pigpen from Charlie Brown, like the cloud of dust that goes everywhere he goes. That's Russell Wilson just exuding bad attitudes towards fans.

Speaker 5 Well, that's what I realized.

Speaker 1 The bad sports town came because Seattle fans were booing Russell Wilson, and I thought that was on Seattle. And then the Denver fans were leaving the game because of how bad Russell Wilson is.

Speaker 1 So it's actually not the towns that are bad. It's Russell Wilson is a bad sports sound himself.

Speaker 1 That was, I actually, if you're like an owner of a team, especially the Waltons who have whatever, how much money, like,

Speaker 1 I don't even know, like billions and billions and billions. They just bought the Broncos for $4.5 billion.

Speaker 1 I would just pay Jeff Bezos or the NFL and be like, hey, you can't show our fans leaving ever. Like, that's just something you can't do because it always looks bad.

Speaker 1 It especially looks bad when it's a tie game going to overtime and it's 9.30 at night in Denver.

Speaker 5 I was going to say that Russell Wilson is like a Walmart product.

Speaker 5 And they're probably very happy. Like, he fits in very well with the stable things that they currently sell as the Walton family.
But

Speaker 5 I'm not saying that Russell Wilson isn't bad.

Speaker 5 He was extremely bad tonight. I'm just saying that

Speaker 5 if we had scruples as a podcast, we would attack Nathaniel Hackett more. But we'll get into that later.

Speaker 5 Maybe he'll continue to screw up, and further down the line, we'll be more aggressive towards him.

Speaker 5 But I'm just saying that I'm currently being fraudulent by not treating Nathaniel Hackett as I would treat another coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just honestly think that Nathaniel Hackett has been bad as a coach so far, but this game was not. If I put the blame pie, it's the majority of it goes to Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson was trashy. He threw that's the second interception in the end zone where he just throws it so late.

Speaker 1 And it's like, dude, all you need to do is make a safe play here and you you can kick a field goal like at least just get like no one can score touchdowns don't be a hero but that's what he's trying to be a hero he's missing like the easy throws it's crazy it's crazy to watch and again i listen it might be harsh on russell wilson but 250 million dollars 250 million dollars and draft picks that's what got traded for when you trade for a guy who's supposed to be the one quarterback away and fix everything and he plays like that he should get the majority of the blame i'm curious to know how hank feels watching these games because it's you know obviously Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, the two teams, or the two quarterbacks that Hurricane Hank and the Patriots have run through.

Speaker 5 They broke it up. Two quarterbacks that have failed on the most spectacular levels possible against the Patriots.
Do you watch this game just like a sicko? Just like,

Speaker 5 this is fun watching what I've done to you.

Speaker 1 I mean, watching

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson shotgun at the goal line obviously brings back the memories.

Speaker 1 It was the same play. It was the same play.

Speaker 1 It makes me feel old because, you know, Tom is kind of washed now. Like, these guys are both super washed.
It's like, though, you know,

Speaker 1 you did these quarterbacks getting back to the Super Bowl. No, I like what he did.
Yeah, I like what he just did there.

Speaker 5 Watching.

Speaker 1 Because he's like, Tom is sort of washed, but then he's like, Tom's like

Speaker 1 14 years older than him. He's not really washed.
He's playing better than both of these guys. Yeah, he can score touchdowns.
Right, right. Broncos K.J.
Hamler to me on the final play of the game.

Speaker 1 I could have walked in. Yeah, he was wide open.
Like, if you didn't see it about it, go watch it.

Speaker 1 He was wide open, and it's probably one of the easiest throws a quarterback can make in like a two, like it's a second and a half.

Speaker 5 I think he just decided to throw it before the play was even snapped. He was like, I'm going to my left.

Speaker 1 No, he said, he said, I'm going to find the best defender on the Colts, Stefan Gilmore, right now, and just try to throw it to me. It's like in Madden.

Speaker 2 Do you guys ever just say, like, yeah, I'm throwing it to B?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah.
No, no, no. Yeah, but right.

Speaker 1 Before he got the ball, he was like, I'm going left.

Speaker 5 I don't feel like throwing to my right right now bad vibes. No, I throw it.
I got PTSD from throwing to my right at the end of the game down in this area.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, that's what K.J. Hamler was very upset.

Speaker 2 I'd rather throw a pick to B than

Speaker 2 change my instinct and throw a pick.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 2 I'd rather throw incomplete to my first got.

Speaker 1 No, I'd rather throw the touchdown that was wide open. Well, yeah, but I'm saying, like.
Oh, Madden. Yeah, no, listen.
I threw six interceptions against Frank the Tank.

Speaker 1 So I do force it, but I'm not paid $250 million to play quarterback.

Speaker 5 And fuck, man. Now, if Melvin Gordon gets the first down, the Broncos end up winning, maybe,

Speaker 5 then we're probably just talking about how sad Matt Ryan was tonight. Because

Speaker 5 until overtime, Matt Ryan played a very sad game of

Speaker 5 tear, it was tear jerk. It was like watching the notebook out there.

Speaker 5 I made an analogy that some people said was too far, but I'm allowed to say it, which is that watching Matt Ryan when he's when he's just helpless back there and he's getting crushed by everybody, it's the same feeling that I had when Leroy couldn't get like up and down from the couch that well.

Speaker 5 Damn. When I just have to be like, oh, okay, let me just go over there.
and I'll help you.

Speaker 5 I'm saying it from a place of love.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 They need to put Matt Ryan down.

Speaker 1 It's every single dropback was like,

Speaker 1 this could be like a

Speaker 1 life-ending injury. The way the pass rush would just kind of swarm on him.
And that one play where he actually almost got his head popped off and was like, get this guy out of here.

Speaker 1 And every pass felt like it was, even the ones that weren't tipped came out tipped. And I know that makes no sense, but if you watch the game, you know exactly what I'm saying.
And yeah,

Speaker 1 I would say, though, that even if the Broncos had won, I would have been like, this team fucking stinks.

Speaker 1 They have now,

Speaker 1 yeah, they beat the Texans and they beat the 49ers where Jimmy G ran out of the end zone.

Speaker 1 They lost to the Seahawks. They lost to the Colts.
And who is there? They're the Raiders. You could make the argument.

Speaker 1 The Raiders, you know, might catch fire here, but you can make the argument their three losses are against like bottom 10 teams right now, and they're not good.

Speaker 1 And I think I saw the stat that Russell Wilson has four touchdowns this year,

Speaker 1 or the Broncos offense might have four. No, the Brussels Wilson has four touchdowns this year.
Geno Smith had six in his last game.

Speaker 5 That sucks. Whatever happens in the red zone to them, they need to rename the red zone in Denver.

Speaker 5 Just something different. Just call it something different.

Speaker 1 Call it, yeah, call it your gold zone.

Speaker 5 It's the gold zone. Call it like the G zone.

Speaker 1 Well, remember, Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett, yeah.

Speaker 1 He calls it the gold zone, so he needs to call it the red zone.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you need to switch and call it either that called the G-spot. Just like when you get close, you just got to jam it in, Russ.
Yep. That's all you got to do.

Speaker 1 But maybe not even that, because then they try to run the

Speaker 1 ball on first down like every time. And then they're like, how did we end up here again? Yeah.
And third and eight with Russ having to figure this out.

Speaker 5 It was a very funny game, though. It got so bad that it got funny.
It's true, like, ironically, with the Colts and the Broncos, it is the horseshoe theory of football. Whereas in the middle,

Speaker 5 you've got games that can be good, games that can be bad, and then once they get so bad, they become good again at the top.

Speaker 1 Right. And it was, um, we were in, we're in New Jersey right now, so we have, we're in the gambling cave.
There's six TVs. At halftime, we're like, fuck this.

Speaker 1 We got to watch something that's a little bit better. So we had the middle two TVs on the Broncos

Speaker 1 Colts game, and then we had Rams, Chiefs, 2018, the 54-51 game, or whatever it was. We had Mahomes versus Baker in college from 2016 that was electric.

Speaker 1 We had Wilder Fury, and then we had just a compilation of home runs on the other four TVs. And it actually made, like,

Speaker 1 it got us to the fourth quarter because there were moments where the game was going on, and I was just watching Baker and Mahomes duel at Texas Tech.

Speaker 5 It completely rocked. It was actually the best way to watch a shitty football game ever.
I highly recommend doing this again in the future. I think that we should actually for Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 5 We'll think it out in advance and figure out what games we want to put on. Just like Blast from the Past, we made our own room of ESPN Classic, and it was fantastic.

Speaker 5 Next Thursday, we do have, fortunately, we get to bounce back with a good game finally, and it's the Bears and the Commanders.

Speaker 1 I didn't like people doing like the week early jokes. Yeah, it was like, we're going to have enough time to make jokes about this game.
You didn't have to do like, you think this game's bad?

Speaker 1 Next week's Bears Command.

Speaker 5 It was bad. And you know what? I'm already starting to get the vibes.
I'm in a new positive mindset right now about the Commanders.

Speaker 1 I don't like that last time.

Speaker 5 I feel like next week, Loki might be a banger of a game. Oh, you never know, because these are the games that people are always like, it's going to suck.
Let's not watch.

Speaker 5 You remember a few years ago, this is like the first, I think it was the first Thursday night football of part of my take as a podcast. It was the Niners and the Rams.

Speaker 5 And at the time, both teams sucked ass. And everybody was like, oh, we're not going to watch this game.
It was one of the greatest games ever.

Speaker 1 So that's the vibe.

Speaker 1 Was it Niners or was it Vikings?

Speaker 5 I think it was Niners. I think it was Niners-Rams.

Speaker 1 There was a Vikings game like that, too. Thursday Night Football, we're like, this is going to suck.
And it was like incredible.

Speaker 5 It was either 2016 or 2017.

Speaker 1 It would be 2016.

Speaker 5 Well, no, I don't know if Jeff Fisher was. I I don't know.

Speaker 1 We'll check it out.

Speaker 5 But I get the same vibes. Like next week, Commanders, Bears, we'll make a Mayor's bet.
We'll have to figure out a Mayor's bet for it.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great.

Speaker 5 I'll give you some famous D.C. crack cocaine.
Great. I was going to say you can give me some famous Chicago crack cocaine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be great. It would be great.
It would be a great bet. No,

Speaker 1 it's going to be a terrible game, but I'm excited for it. And I don't like that people were making pre-jokes because that's like

Speaker 1 we're going to deal with it when it gets here. We have a whole Sunday that we can get to enjoy.
We have Chiefs, Raiders Monday night. Relax, everyone.
Also, last one last thing. Shout out

Speaker 1 the NFL for their new concussion rules. Hilarious moment when they had Russell Wilson got dinged up.

Speaker 1 So the new rule is if you're wobbly at all, you have to come off and you can't come back in the game. The two-wheel rule.
So Russell Wilson throws an interception and gets dinged up.

Speaker 1 And then they have, they just keep showing like five people huddled around a slow-mo replay being like, oh, yeah, we're really doing this.

Speaker 1 Like it was so transparent what they were doing to be like, look at this, look at the NFL. They got five different people looking at this one highlight of Russell Wilson like flailing at someone.

Speaker 1 They were trying to find

Speaker 5 them. They were trying to find evidence for him being wobbly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I don't know. The guy in the red hat, he's the spotter, right? It should have been his call.
That guy needs to be in like a Mike Pereira type control booth.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 Not on the sidelines surrounded by other people.

Speaker 1 Yes. It was, shout out the NFL.
They always find a way to do it.

Speaker 5 Do you think that the altitude has anything to do with Russell Wilson sucking? Like, short people at altitude? No, I think he just sucks. An unnatural environment for them.

Speaker 1 I think he's bought into himself, and he's getting older.

Speaker 5 Or you know how, like, water boils differently up there. Maybe the nano bubbles and concussion water don't bubble enough?

Speaker 1 His brain is broken from the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 And we get the Broncos in primetime next week. Oh, great.

Speaker 1 And two weeks after that in London.

Speaker 1 Who are the Broncos playing in two weeks?

Speaker 2 Next Monday's at the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Ah, okay. Chargers will make it fun.

Speaker 5 It'll be a weird game.

Speaker 1 Probably like six guys get injured from the Chargers.

Speaker 2 Home against Jets, and then Broncos, Jaguars, London, 9.30.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 England deserves it.

Speaker 5 England deserves that shit. Payback for 18-12, bitch.

Speaker 1 Wait, so they play Chargers, Jets, Jaguars? Yeah, then bye. It's going to take me a little bit.
I'm just going to say this right now to just remember that the Jaguars are like good. Because

Speaker 1 when you see Jaguars on the schedule, like win. You know what I mean? Like in your mind.
So it's going to take me a little bit. So yeah.

Speaker 5 Jake, did you find that game 2016 so I have the whole 2016 Thursday night schedule I didn't see a compilation I'll show you the final scores okay I don't know if there's anything that would well know it would be early in the season right this is the 2016 schedule it might have been 2017 must have been you're after yeah check 2017 yeah let's see this is very important I need to know this this is a new segment that we've done a couple weeks in a row called like remember that game specifically yeah We got just it, what it does, it just gets us back in our vibe.

Speaker 1 Week three was Rams Niners. There we go.
That's the one. That was probably it.
That's the one.

Speaker 2 That was probably it. 41-39.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There we go.
That was a great game. That was a great game.

Speaker 5 That's what we have coming next week. Next week, it's going to be maybe a 50-50 tie.
How about that? Bears Commanders.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out Richard Sherman for just screaming, you should have run the ball. That must have felt good.

Speaker 2 And that was a Gami. It was the pre-mery.

Speaker 2 It was the pre-me era on the show, but

Speaker 1 yeah. The

Speaker 1 pre-space as well. It was like pre-me.
That's like

Speaker 1 born early. Cell phone.
It was like cell phone. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Pre-space me.

Speaker 1 pre-me. Pre-me.
Yeah. Yeah, the pre-me.
Prem. Yeah.
Yeah. We almost had the best Gami ever tonight.
9-9. Would have been electric, Jake.

Speaker 1 You're getting. I'm getting hot.
Yeah, you're getting hot with the Gamis. We need to get the Gami bet back up.
Isn't there a bet? That was only for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 I asked them every year. Oh.

Speaker 1 What were the odds?

Speaker 2 Plus 2,000 or plus 1,400? That was only for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Okay, got it.

Speaker 5 Here's going to go to Russia. Excuse me, going to go to Richard Sherman.
He's joining us after the game.

Speaker 1 Run the ball.

Speaker 1 Run the ball.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 All he has to do is run the football.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 Hank's got this little shit eating. You just all rolled.
It's lead back to your glory.

Speaker 5 I did that to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm probably going to go watch back highlights of that Super Bowl after.
It's the same play. It's literally the same.

Speaker 5 You know what?

Speaker 1 But it's the build-up to getting there. It's like you forget the dread, like the way you felt when it's like they're losing the Super Bowl.
Hank has to be.

Speaker 1 The world would have... People don't, you know,

Speaker 1 butterfly effect. Like, it would have been a disaster if the Patriots lost that game.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hank has the ultimate sports spank bank. No matter how bad things get, no matter how trash your backup quarterback is, no matter how trash the guy that you drafted might not be the guy.

Speaker 5 Maybe he's crying getting taken off the field by two guys with a strained ankle, hypothetically. Hank can just go home, close his eyes, and be like,

Speaker 5 that was so awesome when we won that Super Bowl and we were down 28 to 3.

Speaker 1 It was. Yeah.
I party with Rick Ross after.

Speaker 5 God damn it, Hank. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, let's kick it back to ourselves.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 5 Week five.

Speaker 1 Week five.

Speaker 5 I just want to get out ahead of this and say if you're about to send me a statistic online that says what percentage of the way done with the NFL season we are

Speaker 1 getting fucking blocked. No, listen,

Speaker 1 I'm always

Speaker 1 warning people

Speaker 1 how it's not going to last forever, but it doesn't start happening until like week 10 is when I'll start sending up the bats. We're still very early in the season.

Speaker 5 I'm feeling good. Somebody after week one told me like what percentage done we were.
That's crazy. I bought a, I went out, I purchased a gun because I'm going to kill that person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's that's insane. It's like Mike Francesa.
Mike Francesa, have you ever seen those clips where every single week he's just like, week five, man, it's going by fast.

Speaker 1 And like every single week he says that. Yeah.
And it's just like you'd think after doing it for 40 years, time would, you'd be able to understand time.

Speaker 5 No, I'm amazed by time. Yeah.
To this day, like it's kind of shocking to think that Cleopatra lived closer to today than she did to when the pyramids were built.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 What is that? It's the Salvador

Speaker 1 fact? What he was doing? Pablo Picasso. Oh, Pablo Picasso was the 1960s or something.

Speaker 5 He died in 1970, something. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 That's, yeah, that will blow your mind. Okay, we're back to the regular format.
I tried it last week. Didn't work.

Speaker 2 That's fine.

Speaker 1 I'm always listening to the listeners. Want to make sure we put on a good show for the AWLs.
We're going to do it.

Speaker 1 Let's start with our favorites, and we'll talk about every game. Our favorites, Henry, we, as a show, have been terrible.
Jake, do you have the stats?

Speaker 1 Billy, by the way, is excused absent. He's out hunting with Sidney Wells.
Hunting Quail. Yeah.
He also, in very Billy fashion, like, did he take it... Where are they hunting quail? Connecticut.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He came to the office yesterday in his hunting quail outfit. Like, he could have...
Well, I just had to.

Speaker 5 I'll defend Billy on this a little bit. He runs into people occasionally on the subway that look like they're dressed for a more masculine job than he has.
Yeah, so he gets a picture of it.

Speaker 5 So, like, if he's wearing, yeah, if he's wearing, he sees somebody wearing like a construction vest or they've got like some camo on because they're getting back from I don't know God knows where upstate like Billy takes that person yeah.

Speaker 5 He walks up to him and he's like this is the first time that I'm actually being a man for a while. I need to make sure that everybody sees what a guy I'm being.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when he sees someone with a hard hat on, he walks up to him. He's like, you know, Big Cat has soft hands.
That's what, that's, that's how I'm doing. No, no, no.
He goes up to him.

Speaker 5 He's like, he's like, Loki, I work construction for like a summer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for my dad.

Speaker 1 We're going to do fantasy Billies, by the way, so we'll save some of this material. Favorites, Hank.
Not the Sandings. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 yeah so uh I stink I have back-to-back 0-4 weeks I'm 3-13 right now we saw your bracket prediction last year so this isn't new and Jake also you're an announcer you you shouldn't even be making picks exactly and Jake I just want to set the record straight right now Jake is sitting in Billy's seat so I might be mean to you okay just out of reflex Yeah, the proximity.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 2 You stink at picks. So I'm 0-8 my last two weeks at 3-13.

Speaker 1 Woo! Wow. Really bad.

Speaker 1 I actually like having Jake around because it makes me feel good. Yeah, you guys are great.
And at least it's over.

Speaker 2 Hank and Big Cat tied for first and second at 8-8. TFT and Max at 7-9.
Billy at 5-11, and me at 3-13.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you're fading me. What will we do if there is a tie at the top? We'll have to figure out.
Wildcard we can do that. Yeah, I think last year we did.

Speaker 1 You have to keep picking through wild card until a tie is decided. Okay.

Speaker 1 Favorites. Henry.
I am going with the Buffalo Bills. Okay.
I think if Mitch was playing, it's a different story. That's his old team.
He knows those guys

Speaker 1 like a book. But it's Kenny Pickett.
He's a rookie. He's going to get destroyed by that defense.

Speaker 5 I think Tomlin is going to go with the Ben Roethlisberger approach because, remember, Roethlisberger, as a rookie, took over before Tomlin was, or before Cowry was really ready.

Speaker 5 And they just ran the ball and played hard defense. Two things the Steelers team can definitely do.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They got this on lock.

Speaker 1 I have a fun staff for you, Hank, for this game couple.

Speaker 1 This will be the biggest, because it's now 14. This will be the biggest underdog number that the Steelers have in 50 years, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 Shows you how good of a franchise they are. And rookie Kenny Pickett, his first start will come against the Bills' number one pass defense.

Speaker 1 The last rookie, QB, to beat the number one pass defense in his first career start, Ben Rothelsberger in 2004. Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Changing in the guard.

Speaker 5 I actually, I took the other side on this one.

Speaker 1 So Hank and I go head to head. It is so many points.
It's too many points. And you can see that the whole thing.

Speaker 1 And you can walk away, even if the Bills win by 30, you can walk away being like, it was too many points. It was too many points.

Speaker 5 It was too many points. These guys get paid to play football, too.
Yes. It's disrespectful to the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Is there any, I mean, this is probably a better question for someone that's played in the NFL, like a Kyle or something, but you think there's any

Speaker 1 truth to the fact that Mitch was on that team last year, he might have some better insight to the defense and could play a better game.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I think that's something that you like to talk about on a a message board.
It's good. It's like a really good thread to write on a message board.

Speaker 5 You'll get some people like bringing it up.

Speaker 1 But even the USA.

Speaker 5 But no, I don't think at the end of the day, it's going to make any difference.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's foreshadowing for the USA documentary, but Kobe was like, he knew all Powell's stuff. He's like, they knew what I was doing.

Speaker 1 I think the problem is with Josh Allen, you still have to stop it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you go in and be like, Josh Allen's really good? Well, that's defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. But I, and they do have a new offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 They obviously run some of the same stuff, so maybe, maybe not fully. Oh, yeah, I was saying for the Mitch's side on the offensive end, Bill's defense.
Right.

Speaker 5 Well, I think Mitch is going to be able to be a really good scout team Josh Allen in practice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that might make a difference. I think it's more that Mitch knows how the offense runs and can tell for the Steelers' defense.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Not Mitch knows how the Bills' defense runs for the Steelers' offense. Fair enough.
Either way, Bills minus 14. It's a good thought to have.
Yeah. Max.
Just my thoughts.

Speaker 1 Rams minus five and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 A little bounce back against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Yep, against the Cowboys. Fuck the Cowboys.
I think they've been overachieving. I think the Rams have been underachieving.
I think this is a good spot for the Rams.

Speaker 5 Okay. Their offensive line, not good.
Micah Parsons, good.

Speaker 1 This game has me so, so confused because I just, I feel like I'm walking into a trap because I just don't understand how the Rams are going to block the Cowboys. I just don't get it.

Speaker 1 I saw it on Monday night. The Rams have a ton of injuries.

Speaker 5 Didn't they get more guys injured on on Monday night?

Speaker 1 I think they did.

Speaker 5 I think they had a couple of guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, and maybe it's the Cooper Rush will eventually come back down to earth, but he is 4-0 as a starter.

Speaker 5 I need to know who Mike McCarthy broke down on Tattoo Thursday. Yeah.
That's going to be. Somebody figure that out for me.
I want to know who showed off their tattoo.

Speaker 5 Somebody pointed out online: big-time clown Tonio Brown move by Mike McCarthy not doing Tattoos Day. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that would have played. That plays well.
That would have played. That would have played.
Okay, PFT, your favorite.

Speaker 5 This was my easiest favorite, maybe ever. Perhaps ever.
The Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 5 Minus three. Dolphins, minus three.

Speaker 1 Three and a half. Minus three and a half.
Even better.

Speaker 5 I like it even better, three and a half. Teddy Bridgewater, the best quarterback in the history of the NFL at covering spreads.
Spready Bridgewater. I saw some people call him Teddy Covers.

Speaker 5 No, it's Spready Bridgewater. He is 42, 20, and 0 against the spread that hits at a 677 clip.
That's number one by far.

Speaker 1 He's in the last 20 years, the most profitable quarterbacks quarterbacks to bet on are one Tom Brady, two Aaron Rodgers, three Peyton Manning, four Drew Brees, five Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 5 That's as easy as it gets to me. It's nuts.

Speaker 1 And he's 24 and 6 against the spread on the road. And if you want another one to throw in there, the Jets are 1-7 against the spread in the last eight divisional games.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is no disrespect against

Speaker 5 the New York Jets, but it's Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is Teddy Bridget.

Speaker 5 The man is a covering machine.

Speaker 1 It is Teddy Bridgewater. All right.
My favorite is the Bucs minus nine against the Falcons. At home,

Speaker 1 fun fact, Tom Brady is undefeated against five teams in the NFL. Anyone want to guess what the five teams are? Cowboys is one.
Cowboys, he is 7-0.

Speaker 5 The Falcons?

Speaker 1 10-0. This is another one.
That is his best record against any team in the NFL. He's 10-0 against the Falcons.
Jaguars? Nope.

Speaker 5 Let's see. He's definitely lost to the Jets.
He's definitely lost to the Patriots. Yep.

Speaker 1 No, he's not lost to the Patriots. He's 1-0 against the Patriots.
So that's the fifth one. Wow, okay.
1-0 against the Patriots.

Speaker 1 And the last two are he's 6-0 against the Vikings, and he's 4-0 against the Bucs.

Speaker 1 And he probably will never lose to the Bucs. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the lead list. 10-0 against the Atlanta Falcons and 9-1 against the Springs.

Speaker 5 He's beaten every team in the NFL?

Speaker 1 He's beaten every team in the NFL, and he's undefeated against those five teams. That's pretty cool.
It's pretty fucking crazy. And

Speaker 1 I should have picked this as my favorite, too. Can I switch? Nope.
Well, yeah, you can. Okay.
All right. You're on it with me.
He also, this will be. He's got a lot going on.

Speaker 1 This is a Tom Brady broke. Get the fuck in.

Speaker 1 He's got it. Like, there's a lot of outside noise.
He's going to demolish the Falcons. It also, I think Field Yates threw this out there

Speaker 1 that Tom Brady has not had a three-game losing streak since 2002. So that's 20 years.
Damn. I think the Bears probably have a billion of those.
Did you see

Speaker 1 a stat not to.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That was an insult stat.

Speaker 5 That gets thrown out there a lot, though. That's an old stat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so what Hank, I think Bears' insult stats are just kind of in vogue right now. Maybe it's just like they're tagging them.
But yeah, the stat I have it right here, Hank. It's from Brendan Segrew.

Speaker 1 I hope I butchered his name. Tom Brady has 23,996 career passing yards and 174 touchdowns in his 40s alone.

Speaker 1 That's 500 more yards and 20 more touchdowns than Bears' all-time passing leader, Jay Cutler. So Brady as a 40-year-old plus would be the all-time leader in passing for the Bears.
Cool.

Speaker 1 Cool stat, Brendan. I think this was.
What makes you even want to do that?

Speaker 5 This was definitely true last year.

Speaker 1 Because I think I said. Well, no, not the yards, because it's 500 more.
He has 500.

Speaker 5 500 more now. But there were some other things that went around last year about Brady in his 40s being

Speaker 5 the best quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you break up his career, like he could go to the Hall of Fame at any point.

Speaker 1 They're just repackaging.

Speaker 5 It's disgusting. They just repackage these stats just to try to get under your skin i think that tom brady has this is probably

Speaker 1 without a doubt a bounce back week for him because he's got so much like this is everything that he wanted right yeah he's free to he's just played football focus on football he also um did you guys see cole beasley uh retired and in his retirement message he said he is ready to be with his family after playing in 11 seasons and it's time to be a full-time dad and husband cole beasley i'm sorry that you're too stupid to realize that Tom Brady literally brought you in because he had no receivers for one single week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's like mad that that happened, but that was so apparent.
It's like, as soon as we get Julio, Mike Evans, and Chris Godwin back, you're gone.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was always going to be the case at this point.

Speaker 1 But he took it personally so that he went back at Brady with that message.

Speaker 5 Do you think he was trying to get back at Brady with that?

Speaker 1 I mean, it is the

Speaker 1 timing is definitely. It's funny for him to retire a day after the divorce gets made public.
It is funny. Like, I want to go be with my family.

Speaker 5 But Tom Brady's not the only one that has a family.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 5 I don't know if Cole Beasley was taking a shot at him or not.

Speaker 1 Well, look, Cole Beasley. I mean, why can't we believe it? That's the basis of the show: making shit up off of him.

Speaker 5 Cole Beasley doesn't take shots, big cat.

Speaker 1 Come on. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, you're doing Billy and your picks. Correct.

Speaker 2 Billy has the Eagles minus five against the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Do we think this is a trap, Max?

Speaker 1 Trap doesn't exist for this team. Okay, good, good, good.
It does feel like this is

Speaker 1 this is, is this going to be in the hungry dog?

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. Wow.

Speaker 5 Here's a fun stat about the Cardinals. Not counting the end-of-game kneel-downs at the end of last week, the Cardinals have run five plays with a lead this year.
That's crazy. And that's crazy.

Speaker 5 What, two and two? Yeah. And they've run five plays.

Speaker 1 We said the stat on Monday's show, but first half Cardinals are being outscored 66 to 16. They just cannot, they can't get out off the bus playing well.

Speaker 5 I did like what Jalen Hurts said this week.

Speaker 5 He was doing like his press conference yesterday, and they tried to ask him about like, okay, what was it like on the Manning cast yesterday? How was that? And they had like all these

Speaker 5 questions about stuff that had nothing to do with football. And he interrupted the people and he was like, can you guys please ask me some questions about the Arizona Cardinals?

Speaker 5 I want to talk about this game. I've been preparing for this game.
That's Nick Saban. He's fucking locked in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like Nick Saban, when that clip of Nick Saban last weekend, when the reporter was like, asked,

Speaker 1 she's like, yeah, Bryce Young got hurt, but like your team responded, and he just was already set, locked, and loaded to be mad. He's like, I don't want to talk about Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about this team. It's like, yeah, no, that's what she asked.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Nick. There was an all-time Belichick moment earlier this week, too, where he was talking about, I guess he was like mentioning Bailey Zappi or Mac Jones.

Speaker 5 And then a reporter interrupted real quick to throw in like a secondary question.

Speaker 5 Belichick was like, well, I was about to go on at length about our quarterback position, but since you interrupted me, sure, I guess I'll talk about where we're going to be practicing this week.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 completely slap him on the wrist.

Speaker 5 It was a classic Bill moment.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Okay, your pick. I'm taking the 49ers minus six and a half at the Panthers.

Speaker 1 The 49ers at the Panthers. I like it.
Here's a crazy stat for everyone.

Speaker 1 The Panthers, in their last 21 games, are 6-15 overall. 6-15.
The Panthers also, in their last 21 games, have not given up an opening drive touchdown. Longest record right now in in the NFL.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it keeps going.

Speaker 5 I think we talked about that last week.

Speaker 1 I think it was a few weeks ago, but it keeps going.

Speaker 5 It's the longest record, I think, in NFL history.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 5 In the history of the sport of football.

Speaker 1 It's nuts. So, yeah, maybe just bet the 49ers, you can bet them live because they're not going to score a touchdown the first time.

Speaker 5 There's like a live market on those opening drives. Also, Baker Mayfield is addicted to getting his balls swatted out of the air.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 1 smoked it. It's become a real problem.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's going to get absolutely destroyed.

Speaker 5 The 49ers' defensive line is probably going to have like five batted passes because Baker even said this week, he's like, if anybody out there knows any drills that I can do to avoid getting passes deflected at the line of scrimmage, please let me know because I don't know of any.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's an issue.

Speaker 5 That's probably also, it speaks to his coaching a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe just get a fucking like broomstick.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Ben McAdoo. Just hold it up.

Speaker 5 That should be the only thing Ben McAdoo does this week. Get a broomstick with tennis rackets duct taped to the end of it.
and then pretend like you're a bosa.

Speaker 1 And Baker is safe with his job because Sam Darnold, the report, I thought he was closer, but the report has come out that he's not nowhere near close to coming back so baker a secure baker is scary yep yeah he doesn't have to look over his shoulder okay uh underdogs there's a lot this weekend there are so many underdogs hang it is the juiciest by far the juiciest weekend it's been a bad bad start to the year for for myself and the underdogs haven't just haven't felt it i haven't really gotten that that excited feeling looking at these games this week it's like a struggle to find three hungry underdogs for the hungry dog this week there's like seven options.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so before you get to the end of the day. And I love them all.

Speaker 1 I don't know which one to pick for this. I don't know what my favorite one is.

Speaker 5 I like how you're getting pumped up this week because I felt in the first couple weeks of the season like the dogs weren't doing it for you.

Speaker 5 You weren't attracted to that.

Speaker 5 You were LGBTQ minus.

Speaker 5 You were not feeling the underdogs, but it's back in your blood.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling them all.

Speaker 2 Hank, you're 4-0 and underdogs this season.

Speaker 1 Why? Yeah, I mean, listen, yeah, it's like I. I need them to win out.

Speaker 1 I need them. I need the money for this conference.

Speaker 1 Okay, so your underdog, Hank.

Speaker 1 For this contest,

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with the New York Giants. Okay.
Packers have not looked good this year. They haven't.
They're plus eight. They almost got beat by Patriots, Bailey Zappy.

Speaker 1 They didn't even let them throw, and they still almost lost the game. I don't think they're going to win this game by eight points.
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 And the Giants are 3-1. The Giants are 3-1.

Speaker 1 This game,

Speaker 1 we mentioned the stats. This is the first time that we'll ever have a London game with two teams over 500.

Speaker 1 This also completes the world domination because the Packers are the last team to play a game abroad. They're the only franchise that hasn't played a game abroad.
Interesting. That's kind of fun.

Speaker 5 That is very fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like we finally have done it. I think we just own the world now.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to make an Aaron Rodgers Prince Harry comparison, even though

Speaker 5 the comparisons are there with the Witch Girlfriend and all that stuff. But it is nice to see that we're finally exporting the Green Bay Packers to England.

Speaker 5 And I do think that the Giants are going to cover in this game, too. I think that there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 There's weird stuff that goes into playing a game overseas, like logistics, all that stuff that is out of the ordinary for a normal course of a team's week.

Speaker 5 I think that Brian Dayball, he's doing like every single little thing correctly. It's kind of concerning to me how prepared he's been for this game.

Speaker 1 This also is Daniel Jones, we've always talked about, is great on the road. This is like a super road game.
It's a different country.

Speaker 1 So I don't hate it.

Speaker 5 Also, this was the week that Odell Beckham did his official team visit to the Giants. Oh, nice.
So he's back in the conversation for them. I think he's going to visit the Bucs later on this week.

Speaker 1 Wait, so he's in London with them this week?

Speaker 5 No, I think he visited them like early on in the week, like maybe Monday or something. He is doing a college recruiting tour.

Speaker 1 Why not? Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 5 I want his dad to make the announcement of where he's going to play.

Speaker 1 Put on the hats.

Speaker 1 Okay, your underdog, Max.

Speaker 1 I will be the contrarian of this group, and I will be taking the Falcons plus nine and a half. Oh, wait.
It's nine. It's nine.
Nice try. Okay.
Nice try. Does that change your calculus? No.
Was it?

Speaker 1 Quarter, nine and a half? No. No.
I don't care. It was nine and a half this morning.

Speaker 1 Corduroy Patterson, I don't think he's going to play. Don't pick.
Don't be big. Why would you not care? He's

Speaker 1 their most dynamic offensive player. He's your best player.
Get Kyle Pitts fully. I can finally catch Kyle Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 The Bucks haven't looked that good. The Bucks haven't looked that good.
Do you have Kyle Pitts on fantasy? I do not. How could you believe that he's going to...
That's like.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to speak Kyle Pitts into existence.

Speaker 5 I'm also pretty sure that Kyle Pitts is injured, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's injured. I think he's dinged up.
I think he's just been, he just hasn't been used. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the guy they have used. The Falcons are 4-0 against the spread.
They're 4-0 against the spreadsheet. A lot of points.
And

Speaker 1 I'll take the Falcons.

Speaker 1 I like my pick. Well, half less points than you thought.
Still.

Speaker 1 Like a lot of people. Like it more.
I like it more. Oh, you like it even more.
I like it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Do you think that Will Compton being in the team facility is going to be a net improvement, or is that going to be a distraction for the Falcons?

Speaker 1 Major improvement.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Major.
Just him being there?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or him not getting energy.

Speaker 2 We've already talked about his great locker room.

Speaker 5 The fact that he wasn't signed to the team makes the rest of the defense be like, yeah, okay, I trust our coaching staff. Our front office really knows what they're doing.

Speaker 1 I mean, the rest of the team might go hungry because he might have gotten to the buffet line first, but other than that, I think it's a major improvement.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFT.

Speaker 1 My

Speaker 5 underdog this week, I'm going to take the Steelers plus 14. Ooh.
Just too many points. Too many points.

Speaker 1 Too many many points. Too many points.
Too many points. Okay, I'm going to take the Cowboys.
I think this is one of those ones. I'm walking into a trap, but I'll just fucking.

Speaker 1 Listen, sometimes the mouse gets the cheese and the trap doesn't close, right? Right?

Speaker 1 Sometimes. Yeah.
I just, I don't know. I come across them.

Speaker 5 I come across mouse traps in my house all the time. No bait.
It got taken. It got eaten by something.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nothing in there. Yeah.
And also,

Speaker 1 the Cowboys have been playing low-scoring games. Over-under is 43.
If you have plus five, you expect it to be a low-scoring game. That's a lot of points for a low-scoring game.
That's my pick.

Speaker 1 Cooper Rush, Jake, Billy.

Speaker 2 Billy has the Jets plus three and a half against the Dolphins. Of course.

Speaker 1 Own against Teddy Covey.

Speaker 2 And if we considered going to that game, we could use the game time app.

Speaker 1 Ooh!

Speaker 2 $79, the get-in price for this AFC East Battle of the Green Couch battle.

Speaker 1 Ooh, the Battle of the Green Couch battle that rolls right off the tongue. So, y'all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 1 And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country-fried turkey.

Speaker 9 And, Brandon, I'll be right there with you, and I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so cute of you.

Speaker 9 Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 1 Okay, your pick, Jake.

Speaker 2 I'm taking the Falcons plus 9. Oh.
Against the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Max just made a look like, uh-oh, he thought he was going to be cool, the contrarian.
Now you're with the fucking stinker 3-13. 3-13.
Do you think that's a good thing? The 3-13 kid.

Speaker 5 He's probably a nice guy.

Speaker 1 He's been on the show. No, the third guy.

Speaker 5 He's not going to be playing.

Speaker 2 Arthur Smith said Tom Brady does not get enough

Speaker 2 credit for his sustained success.

Speaker 5 I think Tom Brady gets the exact sportsmanship.

Speaker 1 What's that amount of time? Oh, sportsmanship. Sportsmanship.

Speaker 2 He's the undisputed goat, and he's saying he doesn't get enough credit.

Speaker 5 What more credit should we be giving Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 No, that's why it's an interesting quote. I guess maybe from his wife.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 She's probably the last person.

Speaker 1 Maybe the benefit of the doubt. Maybe, you know, he's going through some shit

Speaker 1 not to make jokes at his expense. Yeah.
Yeah. So three.
He deserves that. Okay.

Speaker 1 Over.

Speaker 1 A lot of nice overs.

Speaker 2 You're owing foreign overs this year. Not good.
I'm owing foreign favorites.

Speaker 1 I mean, overs just haven't been hitting. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 They haven't been hitting. Yeah, the best is two and two.

Speaker 1 Right. So they, but they're coming back.
Oh, well. Last week was the beginning of them coming back.

Speaker 5 Fact check: Kyle Pitts was held out of practice.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 5 So hamstring. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 2 Like it even more.

Speaker 1 Marcus Mariota has been hit by a bus. Oh, yeah, actually, yes.

Speaker 5 Desmond Ritter started.

Speaker 1 Like it even more. Best.
That could be the best case scenario. Like it even more.
All right, you're over, Hank.

Speaker 1 This is my, I hate it so much, and I was, I had it as my underpick, but then I switched it to over just because of Jared and the red jerseys. Over 45 and a half with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 I think if Bailey Zappi starts and plays this game, it's an easy over. I think if it's Mac Jones, he's going to be a little bit slower, kind of a half-bum ankle.

Speaker 1 Let me help you out with the ball. I like the under a lot, but I'm taking the over.
Let me boost you with some confidence. Riddle me that.
Red jerseys.

Speaker 1 The red jerseys are going to, they're going to, they're going to pop. Jared and the red jerseys on one field, you can't take that under.
That is going to be a great jersey game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're playing, they're using the Pat the Patriot logo. Lions totals have gone over by 84.5 points through four games, and the last seven Patriots' home games have all gone over.

Speaker 5 So there you go. I'm boosting you up.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 5 Also, I think just on average, if you took the Lions' average scoring offense and defense, isn't it like 65 points per game? Yeah. Something like that? It's crazy.
Here's a quote.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's 84.5 points over the total. Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 5 Combined. It's incredible.

Speaker 5 Here's a quote from Bill Belichick this week because we did forget to respect Jack Fox last weekend. He said, Jack Fox is a weapon.
He is a weapon.

Speaker 5 Kickoff, punt, punt for accuracy, punt for distance, can throw it like a quarterback. Nice.
Jack Fox, best punter in the league. He's outstanding.
Bill Belichick, there's your Jack Fox respect.

Speaker 1 Love it. Love it.
You knew Belichick would get on it.

Speaker 5 Oh, he, yeah. So did you see his pass, though, last week? Yeah.
It was a great pass. He was sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He can throw it like a quarterback. Yep.
Put it right there. No lies detected.
Max over.

Speaker 1 Eagles, Cardinals, over. Ooh.

Speaker 5 49.

Speaker 1 Okay. I think

Speaker 1 that could just be a crazy game. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or it could not.

Speaker 1 Or we could just dominate.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, big cat, this might be a tier rankings, but it's like quarterbacks and what you think their games are going over.
Like, Kyler might be at the top of the list.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't work happening. But every time I say, I'm like, Cardinals, Kyler, points.
He'll just do that. I don't know why I say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I feel like, and this is just totally anecdotal evidence, but I feel like the Cardinals lead the league in third and long. Like, they're always in third and long.
And it's always in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 And I always get pumped up for the over for the afternoon. And they always fucking disappoint me.
Eagle secondaries banged up. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I did not say that.
Did not say consideration. I need you to be strong for me, Max.

Speaker 1 I've been strong, as strong as one could be with this birds team. But, well, my birds team, not the other birds team.

Speaker 5 Are they nicked?

Speaker 1 They're a little nicked. I think Darius Slay's going to play, but you know,

Speaker 1 big game Slay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 How do you prepare to tackle Kyler Murray? I think that's a big reason why a lot of defensive linemen can't sack him is because

Speaker 5 there's nobody in the league that's like shaking.

Speaker 1 It's a shame Billy's not here. I feel like he would tell us.

Speaker 5 My theory is that linemen that are dads are probably better at tackling Kyler Murray. Yeah.
Just getting the lights.

Speaker 5 It's like scooping up their children. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 PFT, you're over.

Speaker 5 My over this week,

Speaker 5 I am going to take the Titans at the Commanders.

Speaker 1 Oh, gross.

Speaker 5 42.5. Gross.
Gross game.

Speaker 1 Gross.

Speaker 5 Absolutely disgusting, vile game. This is my do not watch this game of the week.
And unfortunately, I'm going to have to watch it.

Speaker 1 But I have

Speaker 1 box.

Speaker 1 I'm going to quad box for sure.

Speaker 5 I've made a resolution, though, because I let the commanders get to me too much last week.

Speaker 5 I'm flipping it. I'm going positive vibes only.
I'm not going to let them get me down. Not going to do it.
I'm sorry. You can try all you want.
I'm going to be positive about this commanders team.

Speaker 5 My positive commanders team fact of the week is our running back that got shot twice is now back on the active roster, and he's probably the best player on our team. That's huge.

Speaker 1 What's the so straw update is

Speaker 5 who knows? I cut my straw. No, we

Speaker 5 specified half. I cut my straw in half.

Speaker 1 But then you said you're done with it.

Speaker 5 I have half a straw.

Speaker 1 But then you said you're done with it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but I still have half the straw.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. I can't.
So

Speaker 5 people do this shit all the time when they officially quit a team and they're like, okay, my fandom is like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you can't ever just quit.

Speaker 5 I can't ever quit because like, what if they're good next year? Yeah. And then I'll be the guy that just quit the commanders.

Speaker 1 So the straw will just keep getting smaller.

Speaker 5 The straw is going to get smaller. It's like the arrow paradox where you shoot an arrow at somebody and it never actually hits them.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 right because it has to get half the way there and then half the way there and then half the way there so i have strdinger's straw and uh yeah i guess i'm still a fan of the team but i'm just i'm choosing to just it's a good place to be be positive and be like listen i'm gonna lose but i'm not gonna let it get getting to a place where a team can't hurt you is a great place to be um both of my team football teams are in that spot for me right now where i don't i will not let it affect my mood on a saturday or sunday uh i can't believe no one's taking this it's just i have to do it just because it's fun Raiders, Chiefs, Monday Night Football, over 51.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just going to be fun. Okay.
That's going to be fun.

Speaker 1 Eight of the last nine Raiders' primetime games have gone over, and the last four times they've played each other, they've gone over.

Speaker 1 I just, this is one of those ones who might lose, but I don't care because I'm going to sit down on my couch and we'll root for points. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's going to be fun. Anytime you see the Chiefs on national television, smash the overall.
It's going to be fun.

Speaker 1 Primetime understatus is poisoned my brain. It really has.
It's fucked me up.

Speaker 5 But it's switching.

Speaker 1 Well, not really. I did one and two last week.
I did two and one. I did under on Sunday, which went way over, and I did over on Monday, which went way under.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, I'm one and one in my last two. Yeah.
So I feel, I don't know, the fact that Sunday went over, that's going to stick in my head. Oh, it fucked me up.

Speaker 1 Fucked me up. What about tonight? We'll give a little, you know, for the people.

Speaker 1 Taking the Broncos. No, for under.
Broncos. Same for over under.
21. Under.
Colts, 17. So that'd be an under.

Speaker 1 Jake. Billy is with you.

Speaker 5 On the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Well, she's over 51.

Speaker 2 I am on Cowboys Rams over 43.

Speaker 2 Stafford's got to write the ship. Got to respect Cooper Rush.
Each team just has to score 20. If they don't tie, you'll at least push.

Speaker 1 Listen, I've been doing this gambling thing my whole life, and I understand everyone goes through bad stretches, and I suck personally.

Speaker 1 I'm a loser my entire life, but there's just something about all your reasoning, Jake, that I'm like, you're an idiot. At 13, 13, 18.

Speaker 1 This is how everyone views me. It's fun to watch.

Speaker 1 I've stepped out, and I can see like from 10,000 feet above being like, oh, this is when I'm like 0-11 and I'm trying to convince people to take a pick. This is how they view me.
Right. Like a moron.

Speaker 2 But if I just start getting really cold, I feel like that's when

Speaker 2 people know about it and I'll start getting some wins.

Speaker 5 The market will correct itself eventually. Correct.

Speaker 1 Eventually.

Speaker 2 And if not, it'd be really impressive and the AWS can make some money.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 if you're going to be bad, be the worst. Yeah.
I've always said that.

Speaker 2 Like, it'd be kind of cool if I just kept losing and losing. I'll start my bowling lessons next week.

Speaker 1 When I I started 0-11 on advisors, if it was 2-9, that's not funny. 0-11 is like what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 2 Exactly. So I'm 0-8.
Yeah. Keep it rolling.

Speaker 1 Throw up another 0-4. Yeah, why not? Why not? 3-17.
That would be fucking incredible.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's finish off with the unders, and we'll hit any games we didn't talk about. We've talked a lot about this game.
I'm taking the under in the Falcons Bucks. Okay.
The Falcons are banged up.

Speaker 1 It's going to be like 31 days. Is Kyle Pitts playing?

Speaker 1 I think he was held out of practice. What about Cordero Patterson? Apparently, that doesn't matter.
40 seconds.

Speaker 1 Having your running back, slash wide receiver, slash returner that is faster than everyone on the field. So many points.
Who cares? So many points. Okay.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Under.

Speaker 1 Who's scoring them? Who is scoring them? I don't care. They're going to score them.

Speaker 1 I am taking

Speaker 1 Texans, Jags.

Speaker 1 Game stanks. Game does three and a half.
43. Love the Texans' money line, though.
Texans at Jags, yeah. You want to stat for that?

Speaker 1 The Jaguars have been favored twice in the last two years. They were minus three against the Texans week one last year, lost 37-21.

Speaker 1 They were minus six against the Texans last year, week 15, lost 30-16.

Speaker 1 So this is now the third time they've been favored

Speaker 1 in two years, and it's always been against the Texans. And the last two times they've lost outright.
No, no.

Speaker 1 What about no one's going to kick it?

Speaker 5 They can't blake, though. I feel like this is going to be...

Speaker 5 They might get a Blake boost on it.

Speaker 1 I already got. They got rid of him.
No offense, but the Blake boost was UCF Wednesday night. Well, I took that.
Yeah, that was the Blake boost.

Speaker 5 That was an instant Blake boost, but I feel like the Jaguars could get a Blake boost if they just signed Blake to a one-day contract. That would be cool.

Speaker 1 Had him retired.

Speaker 1 Then I would hammer.

Speaker 1 I agree. They should do that.
They should absolutely do that.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, Blake, very excited on Wednesday. I talked to him yesterday.
He said it was a nightmare because everyone started hitting him up.

Speaker 1 But because this is why he's our boat, he told everyone asking for an interview that he can't do it because he has an exclusive with us. So that's why he's the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 I fucking love him so much. But yeah, he was like, this is a nightmare.
I just thought I could like go into the bushes like Homer Simpson and everyone would just forget about me forever.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'll say this about Blake. Nobody is going to be better at being retired than Blake Boris.
He's going to have the best retirement ever. He's not going to be like, oh, you know, maybe I'll come back.

Speaker 5 I've got the itch to play football again.

Speaker 1 No chance. And I also, it's just so Blake because after we had him on and he announced he retired, I texted him.
I was like, sorry if if you weren't trying to announce that.

Speaker 1 He's like, no, when you asked me to come on for one question, I knew it would come up. So I was like, fuck, I got to say it.

Speaker 1 That was it. He knew it was coming, and he's just, all right, I got to say it.

Speaker 1 You're under.

Speaker 5 My under is the Niners Panthers under 39. Oh, just a PU game.

Speaker 1 This is my PU game.

Speaker 5 I think, and no disrespect to the 49ers. I think the 49ers are a good team.

Speaker 5 But I think that that defense is just going to eat Baker. Yeah.
Baker's going to end up inside their bellies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. My under is going to be Dolphins Jets under 46.
I like Teddy Bridgewater who covers the game. Well, I kind of like the Jets three and a half.

Speaker 1 But either way, I don't think this is going to be an explosive offense type of game.

Speaker 1 Jake, finish us off with you and Billy.

Speaker 2 Billy is taking the Sunday night game, the Cincinnati Bengals and the Baltimore Ravens under 48.5.

Speaker 1 Interesting game.

Speaker 2 Seems like a fun game. That,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, Ravens at night in Baltimore, all black unis. This also will be a really good, like,

Speaker 1 we don't have loser-leave town matches yet, totally, but this does feel like whenever after this game we're going to walk away being like one of these teams is fully back and one of these teams got big-time problems it's like loser um losers living in a neighborhood that's being rapidly gentrified yes in town yes and they're on the verge of getting priced out yes yes uh and you're under jake i'm going double or nothing with the lunder we've got the giants packers under 41 01 on the year but can go back to 500.

Speaker 1 I got a stat Sunday morning. I'm not going to like.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 So Lunders, I don't know if Lunders overall are good.

Speaker 2 I think since I named them, they went 1-1 last year and 0-1 this year.

Speaker 1 At Tottenham Stadium, they're 4-1 to the over. Ooh.
So

Speaker 1 they got that nice, nice first.

Speaker 5 That's usually the road team that's scoring those points at that stadium, right? Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 So it's a win-win. Either my historical bads re continues or we get a Lunder.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think that the Lunder, the true Lunder is the Jaguars game in London.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's the one I think.

Speaker 1 Or maybe even like the Dolphins or Bucks when they play. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Last year, Dolphins, Jags was was the Lunder. I think that was Urban Meyer's only win, right?

Speaker 1 Yep, yep.

Speaker 5 That was huge. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, games we missed. Chargers, Browns.
Miles Garrett's back, I think.

Speaker 5 I think Austin Eckler's going to run for infinity yards.

Speaker 1 Are you going to put him in the Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 5 I've got him in my Mount Rushmore. There we go.

Speaker 1 That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Bears and Vikings. I'm dreading this game because the Kirk Cousins people are going to just have a field day on my behalf.
Can I also put Chubb in the Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Consider it done.

Speaker 1 Let's do our Mount Rushmore right now. Yeah.
What did we won last week? Yeah, we've won two weeks in a row. Pulse.
Two out of three weeks. Yes.
I'm doing Lamar. Okay.
Yeah. I love it.
I'm inspired.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Start a revolution. Fuck, why not?

Speaker 5 Here's the thing about Kirk Cousins, though, is he doesn't really play that well against the Bears. It seems like teams like the Bears.

Speaker 1 That's his prime time. That's his only two wins.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 5 Teams that are similar to the Bears, Kirk Cousins usually will

Speaker 5 dominate them.

Speaker 5 Those are the ones that he builds up, like the Kirk Cousins stats.

Speaker 5 But against the actual Bears themselves, he's not that great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he also, I have a great Kirk Cousins stat.

Speaker 1 63, 63, and 1 all-time against the spread. Yeah.
So perfect.

Speaker 1 So perfect, Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
In every way. But yeah, I'm dreading this game because if Kirk Cousins looks good, people are like, oh, we told you, we told you.
No, you didn't. He's the same guy.

Speaker 1 We all know.

Speaker 5 It really doesn't matter what happens this game. If he scores like 50 points, then it'll be like, yeah, obviously Kirk Cousins beat up against the Bears.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 If the Bears win by like 15 points, it'll just be like Kirk Cousins stinks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's true.

Speaker 5 We've got to get the same way. Yeah, we've got a very good defense mechanism built in against all the Kirk Cousins takes.

Speaker 1 What's your Mount Rushmore pick, Jake, while we do the other games?

Speaker 2 I'm going to go. We, me and Billy, are going to go with Jamal Williams.
He's been a beast for the Lions. Okay.

Speaker 1 So we got Jamal Williams, Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb, Lamar Jackson. Love it.
Love it. Let's win this one.

Speaker 1 400? 240.

Speaker 1 Lamar will maybe get it a little higher.

Speaker 5 Yeah, with the quarterback, I'm going to say 330. Okay.

Speaker 1 So check it out, Barcelona Sportsbook exclusive. We've won it two out of four weeks.
We're up a lot of units on it.

Speaker 1 Seahawks, Saints. I kind of love the Saints in this game.
Seahawks love them. Really? Love them.
Oh, I think this is like Saints get right because the Seahawks coming off a win.

Speaker 1 Saints couldn't look worse. I think the Saints are just bad.
No, I don't think they're that bad.

Speaker 5 They got Kamara coming back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and their defense is good.

Speaker 5 Like the Saints, yeah, the Saints objectively are kind of a bad team offensively when they're missing Alvin Kamara, who

Speaker 5 is 60%. Well, I mean,

Speaker 5 that's been the case for the last three seasons. But Kamara, it's like 60% of their offense runs through him anyways.
So I don't know. I like the Saints in this game, too.

Speaker 5 Plus, this is round two of the Bird Gauntlet. Yeah.
So the Saints have the opportunity to take down every bird team in the NFL. It's never been done.

Speaker 1 Wow. All right.
You talked me off it. No, do it.
No, I want the bird gauntlet. You want the bird gauntlet?

Speaker 1 You can't. I don't want to fuck with history.

Speaker 5 You can't put a price on that. No.

Speaker 1 But it was also Jameis doing the bird gauntlet. It wasn't really because Andy might be playing.
So

Speaker 1 it does show.

Speaker 5 It's still the Saints, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is the Saints. I think that was everything.
I think we hit all the other games.

Speaker 1 Very excited for Sunday. Going to be a great fucking day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we hit all the other games. Look at that.

Speaker 1 I think I like this format a little more. Yeah, no, I do too.
Listen, someone suggested, like, hey, go in order, and we gave it a try.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I'm always open to listener suggestions, but didn't work. And I think this one works a lot better.

Speaker 5 What games are we going to put on the quad box this week?

Speaker 1 I feel like... I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 5 Texans, Jaguars, Commanders, Titans.

Speaker 1 Commanders, Titans are definitely going on the quad box. So we have,

Speaker 1 it's easier to do the five that are definitely going to be on TV. Steelers, Bills will be on TV.
Chargers, Browns will be on TV. Lions, Patriots will be on TV.

Speaker 1 Falcons, Bucks will be on TV, and then it's just a question of who people are betting on. It's either the Bears, Vikings, or the Dolphins, Jets will be on TV.
So the quad box would look like

Speaker 1 Bears, Vikings, Commanders,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 Texans, Jaguars. Yeah.
And Seahawks, Saints, maybe. So, yeah, it's pretty clean.
It's pretty straightforward who's going to be on the quad box.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Because he's not here.

Speaker 5 Fantasy Billy time. Wait, what song should we put in for Billy?

Speaker 5 He loves Nickelback. The boy loves Nickelback.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Fan of that. All right, let's go.
What's up, guys? My name's Billy Football. What's up, Billy?

Speaker 5 Low-key, sup.

Speaker 1 My starter is Lana Del Rey. I might not look like it because I just love to live weights, but like low-key, Lana Del Rey is the goat.
She's the greatest singer that's ever lived.

Speaker 1 Bonk. Wood.
Wood. I don't care.
Bonk me all day.

Speaker 1 I gotta do a better voice. Bonk.

Speaker 1 My Sudom is a psychedelic rock gecko. It's found on Hong Kong Island in southern Vietnam's Rich Gia Bay.
It spans about eight kilometers.

Speaker 1 And Hong Kong Isle is an area of just 300 square meters, but they're endangered. They're getting poached and sold on the black market for like $5,000.

Speaker 5 I heard, like, I read online that if you like grind up, it's, if you dehydrate its eye and you grind up and you snort it, like, low-key, that's the best way to drain fat from your feet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anyway, studies say.
My sleeper is Zach Wilson. He's electric.
He's going to go off this week. Jets are fucking back.

Speaker 5 We're going to the playoffs. No, no, that's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah sick, bro. Um,

Speaker 5 sup sup. What's up? What's up, bro?

Speaker 1 What's up? What's up? Joe, real quick, can I can I get you for a tick-tock?

Speaker 5 Uh, like, I'm pretty, what are what are we doing with it?

Speaker 1 Just stand there and look at the camera. Oh,

Speaker 5 I almost said that was gay.

Speaker 1 I'm starting this week.

Speaker 5 I'm starting studies. Studies.
I'm starting lots of studies. Studies are like simulated hunts for your brain.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 They're so cool. Like, learning new stuff about things.
Like pumpkins. I heard that if you eat like a like a ton of pumpkins, you get like sick.
But like good, like sweet.

Speaker 5 You look sick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm sitting Jalen Hurts because I read online that Joe Biden has Jalen Hurts on his fantasy team. And he was like complaining about a stat correction in the middle of the night in Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 And we're Trump guys. I read that online.

Speaker 1 Joe Biden's a body double. Oh, wait.
That's true. Joe Biden's been dead for 20 years.

Speaker 5 Oh, shit. That was a fake article that I read.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But someone said it.
But someone said it.

Speaker 5 But it makes sense when you think about it, like losing points in the middle of the night and filled up.

Speaker 5 Anyway,

Speaker 5 my sleeper this week.

Speaker 1 So anyway,

Speaker 5 my sleeper, I didn't have a sleeper because you guys just told me at the last minute that we were doing fantasy Billy football.

Speaker 1 Actually, bro, yes.

Speaker 5 I was on the way into work and on the way into work, like the train was delayed, so I didn't have internet.

Speaker 1 No, I think a tree fell in front of the train.

Speaker 5 Well, there was a tree that was behind the train. Right.

Speaker 5 But it almost hit the train. train, yeah.
And then I got out and I was like, Do you guys need any help moving the train the tree off the train tracks? And they're like, Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 5 Uh, yes, please help us. Yeah, and so then I think they're gonna give me like an awards.

Speaker 5 But if you see a picture online of me moving a tree and my pants are falling off my butt during it, it's just because I was bent over so far helping to move the tree.

Speaker 5 Nice, it's not because I don't own a belt.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your service. Uh, what's up, guys? Uh, hey, Billy, hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 Uh, my stardom is uh, fall fashion and high key, like wearing construction boots all fall, like it's actually like better than any other shoe because like it keeps your feet warm.

Speaker 1 And if like a two by four falls on your feet, you have like steel-toed feet. And then also like dudes think you like do construction.

Speaker 5 I sometimes like to wear my crocs underneath my steel-toed boots. Yeah.
Because then people are like, oh, dude, that guy's feet are like size 17.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it also helps build up muscle in your calf way more than regular sneakers. Low-key, high-key, it does.
My sinem, Justin Fields, because he's a vegan, so he's a soy boy.

Speaker 5 That's why he sucks.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much it right there. Like I've done a lot of research about veganism and I played football.
So like Justin Fields stinks.

Speaker 5 Also like playing on grass is good, but if you're a vegan and you're on grass, like sometimes the animals and the bugs that are on that field, they climb up your legs and they bite you.

Speaker 1 And also like the grass, like because you're a vegan, you're like, oh, cool, a salad. So you just start eating the grass and then my sleeper is Jordan Poole

Speaker 1 He got punched by Draymond Green in practice like is anyone thinking maybe Jordan Poole like Draymond's kind of old like he's washed. He probably doesn't even know what TikTok is.

Speaker 1 So like it's sorry that like Jordan Poole is younger and probably should take his job.

Speaker 1 It's kind of crazy. It's kind of fucked up that he would do something like that.
So I stand with Jordan Poole. Like he's just a younger guy.
Sorry that age like these guys are fucking getting old.

Speaker 1 They're dinosaurs.

Speaker 5 He's the next generation. And that rubs people.
Like, just because Draymond has, like, a successful podcast that people like to listen to,

Speaker 5 that doesn't mean necessarily that, like, they won't like Jordan Poole more if he did.

Speaker 1 Like, I could do his podcast.

Speaker 5 If Jordan Poole did Draymond Green's podcast, I think, like, the younger audience would be more into it.

Speaker 1 Right, right. All the bros.

Speaker 2 Hey, uh, what time are we

Speaker 2 recording today?

Speaker 1 Uh, not yet. We haven't later, probably.
Uh, right after dinner. What are we getting for dinner? Yeah.
Want to order food? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Do you have the card?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. My Sardin's LeBron.
He wants to own a team in Las Vegas. Dude,

Speaker 1 I could entertain so many clients. Oh, hell yes, bro.
He will be partying. You should become a trainer on that team because, like, no, no joke, you, like, know a shitload about the human body.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 My Siddham is protestors. The guy who ran on the field on Monday Night Football, he filed a police report.

Speaker 1 Dude, pussy.

Speaker 2 Crabout stay off the fucking field. There would be no police report to file.

Speaker 1 Yes. Facts.

Speaker 5 At the same time, we need to respect the rule of law, though. Yeah.
And, like, yeah, I looked it up and like, I read this one dude.

Speaker 5 He sued McDonald's when he spilled coffee on his dick. And so, like, you can get money out of that because it is technically against the law because Bobby Wagner didn't have...

Speaker 5 He's not like a law enforcement.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 My sleeper is L'Avion Bell. He's fighting an ex-UFC fighter later this month.
I low-key think I could take him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you are a fighter, bro. Want to know.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Also, he's like a running back, and so running backs, like, they're not that tough.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's a fact. Yeah, 69.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That was Fancy Billies. By the way, I love that Draymond Green was like, yeah, Jordan Poole.

Speaker 1 The apology where he's like, I'm sorry this happened, but he kind of deserved it.

Speaker 1 That's how you apologize.

Speaker 5 Yeah, what the Golden State Warriors say. They're like, we're going to evaluate whether or not we're going to suspend them.
That tells me it probably wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jordan Poole was probably being a dick, and Draymond was like, this is my team. Also,

Speaker 5 every team should have some sort of mini-camp or preseason fight. I think it helps in the long term.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it worked out for the Bulls when Bobby Portis broke Miritich's eye. Yeah, every team went on to win big things.

Speaker 5 Every team has a plan until they get punched in the face, so that just means that they've got a plan.

Speaker 1 Yes, they got a plan. They got a plan.
Okay, let's get to Booger.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend who covers everything. You can watch him on Saturdays.
You can watch him on Mondays. You can see him everywhere.

Speaker 1 It is Booger McFarland to talk a little football and also make fun of my weight, which I already got my producer, Hank, who's like one of them, probably the person person I trust most in my life besides like my immediate family coming at my weight so go ahead I can't be hurt anymore I'm not gonna make fun of your weight I'm just gonna ask you do you care about your health and your life like like let's just start there let's just go where the where I can take the needle and like push it in and turn it like let's go to your life and your health do you care about that I do I do I do um but it's football season so it's it's like priority number like six during football season

Speaker 1 Okay. Maybe offseason.

Speaker 5 You know how like linemen retire from the NFL and then they lose a lot of weight because they're not around football all the time. Yeah.
That's like us, except for watching football.

Speaker 11 I get it. Listen, there's nothing wrong with that.
I do really, really enjoy waking up Saturday morning and just being so jealous of how many donuts you eat. It's unreal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you go, you look good because you go and you work at it, but I look good because,

Speaker 1 no, I don't look good. So yeah, that's fine.
All right. You'll sprinkle it in.
Let's talk some football, though. Let's talk some football.
Let's start with college. Let's start with college.

Speaker 1 Let's start here. LSU, Tennessee.
I want your thoughts on how Brian Kelly's doing in his first year,

Speaker 1 what you see out of this team. And, you know, this is going to be a great game.
We're all very excited for it on Saturday.

Speaker 1 But what would you grade Brian Kelly through five weeks, six weeks of the season?

Speaker 11 And so far, I give him a B plus just because I think when you take over a program that had 39 scholarship players players in the bowl game against Kansas State, and they may as well have had you big cat playing quarterback, because I mean, they took a wide receiver and put him in quarterback.

Speaker 11 And for Brian Kelly to take that team, have to go out in the transfer portal, have to recruit to be able to put 85 scholarship guys, I think he's done a remarkable job.

Speaker 11 Now, I will criticize him because I don't think the team was prepared for the opener against Florida State, and I think he admitted that.

Speaker 11 So I can't give him an A, but for where this program has come from,

Speaker 11 from that bowl game until until now, I think he's done a pretty solid job.

Speaker 11 But here's the thing. When you're the coach at LSU, solid isn't good enough.
Like the last three guys down there have won natties. Like Les Miles, Nick Sabin, and even Ed O won a natty.

Speaker 11 So everybody down there is expected to win a national championship. So sorry, Brian Kelly, we gave you $100 million.
Solid is not good enough.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So what is the expectation for this year?

Speaker 11 This year, now, obviously, I think I'd be remiss if I said, hey, let's do a national championship this year. I don't think that's the expectation.

Speaker 11 But I mean, anything short of eight, nine wins, I think is going to be a real, real disappointment.

Speaker 11 And anything short of a national championship within three to five years is going to be an extreme disappointment.

Speaker 5 So this week you're playing Tennessee. You're hosting Tennessee down in Death Valley.
It's an early start.

Speaker 11 It's a real Death Valley, by the way, because, you know, some Clemson fans

Speaker 11 have been kind of going back and forth. And I get the history.
I understand the history. But let's face it, there's only one Death Valley, and that's the one in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 5 I agree agree with that.

Speaker 5 That's stolen valor if you say that it's in South Carolina. It's not, it's in Louisiana, and the Tennessee volunteers are going in there.
Tennessee is a good program. I love Hinden Hooker.

Speaker 5 I love that team. It seems like this is like this is the year where every Tennessee fan is thinking to themselves in the back of their head, we might be able to beat Bama.

Speaker 5 They're thinking about that already. They won't say it out loud, but they're thinking it.
This is a tough game for them.

Speaker 5 I love your DEF CON tweets on college football Saturday when you put people on DEF CON notice. What notice of DEF CON should Tennessee be at to to come down into the swamp?

Speaker 11 Well,

Speaker 11 here's the thing: is that

Speaker 11 they're getting off a little easy because the game is not at night. The game is at 11 a.m.
So you're basically going to have donuts, bagels, and ham and eggs, and then go play a game.

Speaker 11 Like the game's at 11 a.m. Central.

Speaker 11 So they're getting off easy. However, here's what I will say.

Speaker 11 I do think that... I would put the DEF CON status right now at three because it's going to be a sold-out Tiger Stadium.

Speaker 11 It's going to be 102,000 Cajuns full-on eggs and liquor um something i'm sure big cat is used to um i think big cat doesn't drink

Speaker 11 no doubt i think when i wish i wish i did drink so i could then lose weight by not drinking we're like a jet spratt podcast where like he eats the food and i drink the booze i got you and i'm just glad that you're sober for this podcast by the way pft good congrats on that yeah i never said that yeah i never said that well i mean you look sober or you appear sober to me but

Speaker 11 sober presenting hindon hooker's been outstanding and if i'm a tennessee fan here's what i say like i didn't realize this until i started doing some research like hindon hooker is 20 like 23 24 years old so he is way mature beyond the age of some of these kids that are going to be out there lsu is going to start six freshmen like six 17 18 year old guys and so i i do think the maturity of hindon hooker the offense of josh hypel uh i understand why tennessee is a favorite uh i understand why people uh I mean, I got Peyton Manning texting me all of a sudden, wanting to get a bet.

Speaker 11 I hadn't heard from him about Tennessee football in years, but all of a sudden he's coming out of the woodwork. So it's going to be a fun atmosphere.
They deserve to be the favorite.

Speaker 11 But as my old coach used to say a long time ago, it's a poor dog that won't fight in his own backyard. And they're coming home.

Speaker 5 So wait, wait, what is what does Peyton want to bet you?

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, I'm not going to disclose the bet, but there is a small monetary wager on the game.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like it.
So, other college football question I had for you:

Speaker 1 who's good right now? Because you've seen it. Georgia's struggled a little.
Uh, you know, Clemson looks like they're back a little.

Speaker 1 Ohio State's rolling through the Big Ten like they always do, but you know, I think this going into this season, we all said there's like three or four teams that are better than everyone else, they're juggernauts.

Speaker 1 Do you think that still stands true, or have you seen things from those juggernauts where you're like, okay, they could be had.

Speaker 1 This isn't going to be as easy as they thought it would be.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think based on what happened in Columbia, Missouri the other night, with Georgia almost getting knocked off, you can see where on any given Saturday, man, these 17 to 21 year olds normally outside of Hinden Hooker,

Speaker 11 you can see where these guys could possibly slip up. But in the end, I think talent always prevails.
And in college football, there's four or five programs that are more talented than the rest.

Speaker 11 You look at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, like those programs are more talented than the rest. Now, here's what I'll say.
There are some coaches that are more talented than others.

Speaker 11 You look look at Lincoln Riley, USC.

Speaker 11 So even though USC is not as talented as the first four, because of Lincoln Riley, they have the ability on a given Saturday or whenever the game is played to play with those other programs.

Speaker 11 However, I do agree with the sentiment that we came into this college football season with, and that is that they're the haves and the have-nots.

Speaker 11 And, you know, Lincoln gives USC an opportunity to play a little bit above.

Speaker 11 But other than that, man, it's those first four that I mentioned.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So the other other question I had was, my alma mater, Wisconsin, just fired their head coach.

Speaker 11 Why?

Speaker 1 Why did they do that, by the way?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 this is the worst Wisconsin team in 25 years, and it's going in the wrong direction.

Speaker 11 Okay, but what are the expectations, though? Like, you guys act as if the expectations are natic.

Speaker 1 No, they're not. No, the expectations are very clear.

Speaker 1 You have to win your non-conference games at home. You have to beat Illinois.
You have to be competitive against Ohio State. Not beat them, but be competitive.
You have to win eight or nine games.

Speaker 1 They weren't going to win eight or nine games if they didn't make a change this year. That's just a fact.
Like, they were in the wrong direction.

Speaker 1 My question, though, is, and we see it all the time in college football. I had Georgia Tech last week because they fired their head coach.

Speaker 1 You never had a head coach fired mid-season, but you obviously talked to everyone in college football and in the NFL. What does that do for a locker room?

Speaker 1 And do you believe in the bump up when you get rid of a coach and you have like a new guy, new fresh tactics,

Speaker 1 new voice in the room, what does that do for these guys?

Speaker 11 Well, I think it puts everybody on notice, right?

Speaker 11 Just think about if the boss comes in and fires three or four people at barsteel, you guys are gonna have to, you know, show up to work on time and not come in and hung over.

Speaker 11 Like, you're gonna have to actually start doing things the right way. It's no different in a locker room.
Like, when a coach gets fired, gets fired, everybody gets put on notice.

Speaker 11 So, all the players are now sitting up a little bit straighter. We're gonna do be on the details a little bit more.

Speaker 11 That's why you often see a bump up in emotion, a bump up in preparedness, a bump up in details when a coach gets fired. Think about Nebraska.
Nebraska fired Scott Frost.

Speaker 11 They lose their first game, but they win last week. Like,

Speaker 1 who would have thought?

Speaker 11 You look at Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech beat Pittsburgh after they fired Jeff Collins.
Why? Because there's an attention to detail that happens. Now, is that sustainable?

Speaker 11 I don't know because eventually football is not played with emotion. Football is played with talented people giving maximum effort for a sustained period of time.

Speaker 11 So So, yeah, it puts the locker room on notice, but eventually you're going to have to have the right dudes out there playing.

Speaker 11 And I think at Wisconsin, let's face it, I don't know about you, but I think they want Jim Leonard to be the coach. At least feeling I get.
Now,

Speaker 11 can Jim recruit and get the right players? Jim is a little younger. Maybe he can be a little bit more innovative.
I think that's the road.

Speaker 11 If I'm a Wisconsin alum, I hope they go down and I hope Jim can get it done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, and that is also part of

Speaker 1 the decision, I think, because the schedule is not that hard.

Speaker 1 It's the Big Ten West, and you're basically saying if Jim Leonard can write the ship here a little bit and win, whatever, five out of the last seven, then he can prove that, you know, instead of waiting a whole year and then hiring Jim Leonard, let's see if he can do it right now.

Speaker 1 And then he's off and running and ready to go with scholarships and all that stuff and recruiting.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I completely agree. By the way,

Speaker 11 I'm going to step away because I'm going to send you guys something.

Speaker 11 So I'm going to send you guys this this is a booger bobblehead oh because yeah it's a look fact like i still have hair because i see you guys have bobbleheads in the background so i'm gonna make sure that i send you guys a bobblehead i want mine on pft side though i don't i don't want it on big cat so i want to be standing yeah because you're scared you wouldn't be able to tackle ron dane that's why well i look better than ron dane but i want mine on this side yeah that's true you know of the studio Booger, I don't know if you can dictate our decoration as a set up here.

Speaker 1 Does it have a Booger on it? Okay, if you're asking politely, I'll tell you what, I'll make you a deal.

Speaker 5 How about this? Last time we had you on the show, I think we gave you a little Fastest Two Minutes boomerism to put in Chris Berman's ear, and he ended up using it, the Jalen Hurts So Good thing.

Speaker 5 Correct. Since that time, we have interviewed Boomer, and he is everything that we thought he'd be.

Speaker 1 He is the man.

Speaker 5 We love Chris Berman even more after we've met him. I had one that maybe you could put in his ear for whenever Kenny Pickett plays against Russell Wilson or Zach Wilson.

Speaker 5 I think we used this last week on our fastest two minutes that we do. Just tell him like Wilson Pickett, wait till the midnight hour.

Speaker 1 Wilson Pickett. Boomer will love that.
Mustang Sally.

Speaker 5 I got you. Like Mustang Sally, wait till the midnight hour.

Speaker 5 I feel like Chris would get there eventually on his own, but maybe if you just kind of like nudge him in that direction, I think he'd really enjoy that.

Speaker 11 Consider it done, gentlemen. And after we get done, if you'll send me the address, I'll send you the booger bobblehead.

Speaker 1 Does it have a booger on it?

Speaker 11 Does your booger booger bobblehead no it wouldn't it doesn't have no it has my real name which nobody calls me that anymore but i think it'll be cool it'll be a cool addition if you'll have me in your studio

Speaker 1 okay anthony yeah no no problem so

Speaker 5 it's it sounds weird just saying that exactly yeah i like booger better so um i've enjoyed you on espn this year you've been doing a lot of uh nfl stuff as well robert griffin has been all over the place rg3 he raced a bird yeah for monday night football and uh i'm just curious,

Speaker 5 how has it been to work with him?

Speaker 5 Is he going to be down on the field trying to get a TikTok with Jackson Mahomes against the Chiefs this week? Or what's his angle going to be?

Speaker 11 You know, it's been really cool because I'm 45 years old and RG3

Speaker 11 is

Speaker 11 RG3 is a lot younger, almost a decade younger than me. And so for

Speaker 11 me to kind of still work with a guy who just got out of the league, who's trying to be hip, like he's into social media, he's into all these different things.

Speaker 11 And so like he's he's still trying to be a part of that culture. But what I tell him all the time is this.
I said, hey, big guy, remember, you're on the desk now. Like you're no longer playing.

Speaker 11 So you can stop racing birds. You can stop running hurdles and trying to run 40-yard dashes.
Like you are officially a has-been. He gets so hot.
And we have some fun with that.

Speaker 11 But he's been really cool. It's been cool to get to know him.

Speaker 11 He is definitely. um a welcome addition to our set a lot of energy but i feel like i'm surrounded by quarterbacks like the other day, we were in San Francisco, and I got RG3.
I got Alex Smith.

Speaker 11 I got Steve Young. I'm like, do we need any more quarterbacks on this set?

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, no, it is true.
It's very quarterback heavy. I mean, quarterbacks always play.

Speaker 1 They're protected at all times.

Speaker 5 So who do you want? Like, what's a lineman that you would want to work with?

Speaker 11 A lineman. Wow.
I haven't thought about that.

Speaker 11 I worked with some good ones already with Spears and Jeff Saturday,

Speaker 11 Damian Wooly. Like, linemen are really hard to come by.

Speaker 11 There are some cool ones on Twitter you follow. Like, Jeff Schwartz is a really good friend of mine.
Like, he's a real,

Speaker 11 he's a Pac-12 guy. He went to Oregon.
So I hold that against him, but he's a good friend of mine.

Speaker 11 Mitchell Schwartz, his brother, like, like, the Schwartz family is kind of, even though I don't know Mitchell that well, like, I follow them and like what they do.

Speaker 11 So those are a couple that just come to mind off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 Okay, so sticking with lineman talk, I have a game this weekend that I can't figure out. Okay.
It's the the Cowboys and the Rams.

Speaker 1 The Rams, obviously in the NFL, you always want to take the team that's looked, you know, the team that looks bad, you take them versus the team that's looked great in the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 But my question to you is, the Rams' offensive line is a disaster right now. Matthew Stafford was running for his life on Monday night football.
The Dallas defense is elite.

Speaker 1 Micah Parsons might be the best defensive player in the league right now.

Speaker 1 How do you scheme up when you know you have that big of a mismatch? If you're Sean McVay, how how do you scheme up to beat a defensive line?

Speaker 1 And can you even do it when it's that big of a mismatch on paper?

Speaker 11 Well, I think there are two ways. First of all, you have to give the offensive line a break sometime.
Here's what I mean. Don't ask them to block.

Speaker 11 Like, run screens, do things where they can kind of take a mental playoff. And then at some point, you got to walk in that offensive line room and say, hey, guys, I'm going to close the door.

Speaker 11 Say, hey, guys, hey, I need you guys to drop your balls. All right.
At some point, all you guys are getting paid. All you guys are making money.
Drop your balls and man up.

Speaker 11 Because at some point, we're all adults in here. Okay.

Speaker 11 I'm not going to ask you to block Michael Parsons 55 times, but there's probably eight to 10 times in the game you're going to have to knuck if you buck and block him. Okay.

Speaker 11 DeMarcus Lawrence, hey, if you don't, if you don't block him, Matthew Stafford, other elbow is going to hurt. And so I think

Speaker 11 you have to come up with a game plan where you give the guys confidence. You help them out.
Maybe you chip. Maybe you protect.
And then at the end of the day, here's the thing.

Speaker 11 You and I watched the game the other night. And every time Matthew Stafford dropped back, if we were to play a drinking game, hey, he's throwing the Cooper Cup, we would be drunk in the first quarter.

Speaker 11 Like they throw the Cooper Cup every play. So, how about find somebody else to throw to and get other people involved? Because here's what happened.

Speaker 11 Imagine if you guys did a show where only Big Cat talked. Like, PFT will become uninterested.
He would do something, he would be on the phone. Like, you got to get other guys involved, man.

Speaker 1 That's true. And so, my other question with the Rams and especially the 49ers, it feels like Kyle Shannon has Sean McVay's number.
Was there ever a team that

Speaker 1 you thought going into the game, like, unfortunately, this other coach kind of has our coach's number? And what does that do mentally for your team?

Speaker 1 Because I would imagine you talk to guys who are on the Patriots where they're always like, hey, Belichick will always put us in the best place.

Speaker 1 At some point, you've got to be like, hey, is this game plan working? Why can't we, you know, they beat him in the NFC Championship game, but why can't this work more often?

Speaker 1 We're just as good as them. What's happening here, scheme-wise or coaching-wise, that we're not in the best position when we play this specific team?

Speaker 11 Yeah, for us, it was the Philadelphia Eagles in Tampa, man, because, you know, it was that whole deal.

Speaker 11 We couldn't play when the temperature was below 40 degrees, and we always had to go up there, and we always had to play them.

Speaker 11 And mentally, it just sits on you, man, because you know that, hey, on Monday, you know, hey,

Speaker 11 coach walks in and tells us, hey, guys, here's the game time temperature. It's going to be 32 degrees.
So let's get in your mind. It's going to be cold.

Speaker 11 Here's the guy we got to stop, Donovan McNabb. Here's the players, Brian Westbrook.
Like all the things that we knew early in the week, and it was just a matter, we had to go up there and do it.

Speaker 11 They had that old turf. Like this was before they opened Lincoln, Lincoln Financial Field.
It was the real turf, like the outdoor carpet and then right underneath it was concrete.

Speaker 11 Like that's what we played on.

Speaker 11 And so.

Speaker 11 uh we had to eventually get over that hump and there's always a little doubt in your mind because the longer it goes that you can't beat them like human nature says are we ever going to uh and for us it was pretty much the same way like we lost affiliate four or five times in a row and then we went up there the year we won the super bowl it was 32 degrees i'll never forget warren sapp leaves the locker room uh for like his pregame ritual and he he he uh he didn't have a shirt on and i'm looking at him like man what is he about to do so he runs out in the vet it's 32 degrees the sun's out and it's freezing and he runs around the field with no shirt on.

Speaker 11 Now, he doesn't have a six-pack. He's kind of built like you, big cat.
And so, A,

Speaker 11 I don't know what kind of statement that made from a fashion or a physical sense, but just from a mental standpoint, I think that got him to a point where he said, okay, I'm over the cold weather.

Speaker 11 Now it's just about going out and playing. And I think that gave us a little confidence some kind of weird way.
And we went on to beat him and we won the Super Bowl the next week. So

Speaker 11 you got to get over that hump mentally, man. It's really mental because you know you can do it physically.
It's really, really all mental.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 Did you ever have any teammates that would be like, don't wear long sleeves, don't wear gloves, don't let them see you. That looks weak.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Derek Brooks, my rookie year, we play Chicago in Chicago. And he tells me, he said, hey, on defense, we don't wear sleeves.
Now, the temperature is about 10, winds blowing.

Speaker 11 He said, hey, we don't wear sleeves. uh well i didn't know the old secret that when you don't wear sleeves you got to put this stuff stuff called tiger bomb on.
It's tiger bomb slash Vaseline.

Speaker 11 It basically closes up your pores. And if you notice, when anybody plays in the cold weather, here's a little tip.
Watch their arms.

Speaker 11 Their arms are always going to be glistening and shining anytime the weather is cold.

Speaker 11 Well, they got this stuff called Tiger Bomb on, and it basically kind of closes your pores up where you don't feel the cold weather as much. Well, I didn't know that.

Speaker 11 So Derek Brooks had that on, but I didn't. And so I'm down in my stance in Chicago

Speaker 11 and I put my hand hand down and all I have on is my pants. And underneath, I have a jock strap.

Speaker 11 So as I bend down, the wind comes screaming through those pants and it felt like it went right up my butt all the way out my clothes. And when I tell you, it's the coldest I've ever been in my life.

Speaker 11 I had literally chill bumps on my arms, man.

Speaker 11 But the next time I learned about the tiger bomb and I also learned about, you know, drinking just a little shot of whiskey before the game to hell with the chicken broth.

Speaker 11 broth just gets you a little shot of whiskey kind of warms you up also

Speaker 11 i like it yeah that's that's that's interesting so wait but you also probably could have just worn underwear and that would have stopped some of the wind from going up your butt yeah but here's the problem like like when you're as athletic as i am you want to feel loose like i i don't want to feel like i'm restricted by having underwear like i'm not a big underwear guy anyway

Speaker 5 So when we see on TV,

Speaker 5 are you going commando?

Speaker 11 No, it's tough to go commando when you're wearing suits, you know, because I don't want the fabric, you know, know rubbing in in the wrong place i don't want shapes and i can't put boudreaux button i can't put all that stuff in my nice suits however when i'm just walking around like on a normal day and i got shorts and a t-shirt on yeah it's it's it's free willing who was it it was mark tesher right whenever he's on tv he wears just a jock strap yeah and that's it he's kind of a weirdo though yeah that's really weird a jockstrap with a suit Yeah, Mark,

Speaker 5 he's a baseball guy. You know, they get superstitious.
He probably went like three for four one time, and he was just wearing a jock strap.

Speaker 5 So he's like, every day for the rest of of my life, I'm just, that's all I'm going to wear is a jock strap.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that can't be comfortable, man. Because here's the thing about the jock strap.
If the jock strap is not, is the wrong size, then you'll start to be cut in certain areas.

Speaker 11 Like, it's so important to get the jock strap the right size. And here's the problem.
If you get the jock strap the right size to fit your waist and your thighs, it may not fit the area in which you

Speaker 11 should be most proud of.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 11 it's a weird combination for dudes getting the jock strap the right size.

Speaker 5 Yeah. As a white guy, I I don't think I've ever had that problem.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 That is not on my list. I checklist before I leave the house.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, best quarterback in the NFL. If you're a defensive player and you're playing Patrick Mahomes, is that just the most demoralizing thing?

Speaker 1 Because it's just, it feels like no matter how you defend him and you could have him sacked or you could play perfect defense, he finds a way to get it done.

Speaker 1 Is it one of those things that you just got to hope that he doesn't burn you for 30 and you're going into the game being like, hey, if we can keep it at 24, we might have a chance?

Speaker 1 Because I'd have to imagine playing against a guy like that who's playing at this high of a level has to fuck with you a little bit when you get on the field.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he's phenomenal, man, and he takes advantage of, A, his supreme talent, and B, he also takes advantage of a lot of mistakes that defenses make. I'll give you a prime example.

Speaker 11 Let's go back to that play

Speaker 11 Sunday night in Tampa where

Speaker 11 he throws a little jump pass to Clyde Edwards-Julaire, where he never gets an opportunity to make that pass if the defensive man just takes the proper angle and gets upfield. Don't let him outside.

Speaker 11 And so Mahomes takes advantage of a guy, I forget his name, number 79. He probably shouldn't be playing defensive man.

Speaker 11 I think it was what, Connor, Pat Connor, whoever it was, took a terrible angle, let him outside. And now the magic of Mahomes can take place.
Well, guess what? Keep him in the pocket.

Speaker 11 You can't do that. So it's a combination of a lot of things.

Speaker 11 He is probably

Speaker 11 in the conversation for the most gifted quarterback of all time. I think Aaron Rodgers is the most talented.
I think Tom Brady is the greatest.

Speaker 11 But all those guys are living in the same neighborhood that if you give them

Speaker 11 any ounce of hope and give them a little crack, like they will make you pay. And he's phenomenal, man.

Speaker 1 All right. So off that, because it's a great point.

Speaker 1 I mean, we know football game of inches, but like how you take your angles.

Speaker 1 How hard is it if you're a defensive lineman or a linebacker knowing knowing for 70 plays, you have to play this exact angle and you can't, like, even

Speaker 1 when you're out there and you see, like, oh, I might be able to get him right here, but I'd have to leave my assignment.

Speaker 1 Like, that mental part of the game, is that just the most difficult part where you're like, I have to do the same thing and I can't deviate, even if I think I have a play, because if I think I have a play, he'll burn me and throw a touchdown like that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's a great point by you. First of all, that might be the first one on this podcast.
Great point.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 11 Here's the thing I'll say.

Speaker 11 It's not hard on play one

Speaker 11 because you're fresh, you're pumped up, the crowd's into it.

Speaker 11 It may not be hard on play 10, but when you get to like play 30 and you're a little tired and you're starting to see like two or three mahomes back there because you because you're out of breath, then it becomes critical because most people when they get fatigued and when they get tired, they become mentally weak.

Speaker 11 They give in.

Speaker 11 Oh, I can't get it. I'll do something else.
I'm going to go. And

Speaker 11 it's like the guy from, I know we've all seen the clip of the Denver Bronco guy chasing the Raider guy, the big pole.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 He just dove and he had no chance. Well, guess what, big guy? How about run faster? You won't have to die.
Okay.

Speaker 11 And he just dove and gave in, like, hell, screw it, I'm done. And so, what happens is, as a defensive lineman, you have to make sure that you're rotating in and you're fresh.

Speaker 11 That way, you can not only be sharp physically, but you got to be sharp mentally, man.

Speaker 11 Like, like we have a saying uh or we had a saying in my defensive line room like when you get tired shit creeps in okay when you get tired like shit starts to creep in i mean you start seeing things and imagining things that you shouldn't be doing and it happens to everyone it happens to even like the greatest players and you have to fight against that and you do it with conditioning in the offseason and you're also doing it do it when you get an opportunity in the game like you got to sub out like get somebody fresh in to chase this dude around around for 60 or 70 plays man

Speaker 11 yeah who do you think is the best defensive lineman in the game and let's just pretend hypothetically for this situation tj watt is and aaron donald is oh oh you're saying healthy okay yeah he's healthy yeah uh here's what i'll say i i think aaron donald is the best player in football that's not a quarterback quarterbacks all are always going to get the

Speaker 11 the notch above because they touch the ball every play. He's the best non-quarterback in the NFL.
I think there are some guys that are right there

Speaker 11 a quarter step below him miles garrett tj watt michael parsons uh nick bosa has been playing phenomenal i don't know if you guys have been watching him he's outstanding um

Speaker 11 who am i missing up front like like those are the guys that consistently do it and do it at a high freaking level man and there's some other guys who who can kind of flip the switch and give you a game or two where you're like man hey von miller man game one whoof still got it and von hasn't been the same since game one.

Speaker 11 Like, it's like, like, there are some guys that can give it to you, but the guys that give it to you every single week, TJ Watt, Miles Garrett,

Speaker 11 Aaron Donnell, Michael Parsons, Nick Bosa, like, those are the guys that, man, I just watch them. Like, I don't even really watch the ball sometimes.

Speaker 1 When you, at the end of your career, were you, because you mentioned Von Miller, and that's a good point. Like, he has these flashes where, like, oh, that's old Von Miller.

Speaker 1 But then he could maybe disappear for a game because he's older. Would you, did you notice at the end of your career, like, oh, I'm going as hard as I can.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to do everything I used to do, but it just isn't that same explosiveness isn't exactly there. And that's the difference between what I was five years ago versus what I am today.

Speaker 11 You notice that, and all the good players, or even really any player, notices this, is that you watch the tape and you just watch practice and you see yourself moving and you're like, wait, who is that you're like oh that's me

Speaker 11 and it kind of shocks you for a minute and and you can kind of do some things to kind of um

Speaker 11 kind of beat the system a little bit because you are a veteran and you understand um

Speaker 11 what the play is going to be based on formation like tendencies and all those good things however at the end of the day man um

Speaker 11 most players are honest with themselves like like you know when your fastball is gone like because guys that it would be like me lining up against you, big cat, and like, man, big cat blocked the hell out of you today.

Speaker 11 Like, there's no way

Speaker 11 if I'm in the right frame of mind and you're in the right frame of mind that you can block me.

Speaker 11 So if I ever showed up at work one day and I turned the practice tape and you were blocking me, I would literally get up, walk down to the GM's office, and retire at that point.

Speaker 1 You turn in your own badge and your own gun.

Speaker 5 It's like, I know I don't have it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's always fascinating to me, the end of careers where it's like, you know, these guys know exactly what to do, and they can get get by a little bit on veteran savvy, but that one little piece of explosiveness is not there.

Speaker 1 And that's, that's the difference of what they were and what they are.

Speaker 11 Well, that's why quarterbacks can play so long.

Speaker 11 Like, like, as long as a quarterback physically doesn't have any crazy stuff going on, because their game is so much mental and decision-making, and that rarely goes away until you get much older.

Speaker 11 And so, people look at Tom Brady, and he's 45 years old, and he's still playing at a high level. It's because he hadn't really had a ton of injuries physically.

Speaker 11 I think the ACL was really the only major one. Other than that, he can still process and make great decisions at a high level.

Speaker 11 So quarterbacks can do it for a long time because they know what the game is going to be before the game is ever played. Whereas a position like mine, man, like it's physical.

Speaker 11 Like it is Mortal Kombat for 60 plays every Wednesday and Thursday, or it used to be. They done changed the rules now.
But, you know, every Sunday, it's Mortal Kombat, man.

Speaker 11 Like, you got to go hit some dudes in the mouth and bang heads for two and a half, three hours, and hope you win and then come back and do it again.

Speaker 11 And oh, by the way, the NFL wants to add another game, and then we're going to add another game. So now we're going to be at 18 games in a couple years, and it's tough, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I have one last, last question for you. Next Thursday night, so we're going to air this tomorrow.
So Thursday night football have already been played. The Broncos, the Colts.

Speaker 5 Next Thursday night, we've got a matchup that I think America is just clamoring to see. Should be an offensive explosion.
Two fantastic franchises with high hopes for their future.

Speaker 5 The Washington Commanders at the Chicago Bears. So, those are mine big cats teams.
We have a love-hate relationship with our own franchises.

Speaker 5 I think we're more realistic about our franchises than most people are about theirs. Like, we understand exactly who we are.

Speaker 5 We're a couple losers, and we root for a couple loser franchises, and that's okay. So, can you just give us

Speaker 5 which team do you think is less depressing? The Commanders or the Bears, and that's going to be my pick for next Thursday night.

Speaker 11 Which team is less depressing? So, which one puts me in a mood where I just feel like don't even watch football?

Speaker 5 Yeah, which team would you rather watch? And if you were to become a fan of one of these two franchises, gun to your head, what do you choose?

Speaker 11 I'm choosing the Bears because if I'm a fan of the Bears, that means I'm going to go watch them play a couple times. And Chicago is a really good food city.

Speaker 11 And so therefore, for me, I'm going to go and even if they play terrible and the offensive line stinks and Justin Fields can't hit the side of a barn, I'm going to have a hell of a meal at some point.

Speaker 1 Chicago Cut.

Speaker 11 Okay. Hey, Chicago Cut is awesome.
Okay. It's going to be a great place to go eat.
And you know what? I'm going to still enjoy it. So yeah, I would choose the Bears and I would tread lightly.

Speaker 11 But by the way, all

Speaker 11 seriousness with this. If the Bears don't fix their offensive line,

Speaker 11 Justin Fields is headed toward being the second coming of

Speaker 11 what's the car kid that was in Houston? I forget

Speaker 11 the car. I forget the car brothers.

Speaker 1 They both look alike.

Speaker 11 David Carr.

Speaker 5 That's racist. Yeah, no, it is.

Speaker 1 We all look alike. Yeah, yeah.
No, that's fine.

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Speaker 1 My last question is similar to that,

Speaker 1 where the Lions, let's talk about the Lions real quick. Offense has been incredible.
Defense has been garbage.

Speaker 1 What does the locker room look like when one side of the ball is just completely the reason for the losses and the reason for everyone saying like, this isn't working.

Speaker 1 You guys, we're going out there every week. We're busting our ass.
We're doing our job. And you guys can't hold up your end of the bargain.

Speaker 11 I think there are two things at play. One,

Speaker 11 do you see the guys putting the effort? So if I'm an offensive guy, do I see the defense extra meeting? Do I see the defense lifting weights, paying attention to detail? Are they getting in early?

Speaker 11 Are they staying late? Are they doing all the little detail things to try and get better? If they're doing that, then I'll cut them a little grace. Like I'll give them a little bit of leeway.

Speaker 11 But if they're not doing that, like if the defense is showing up and it's like, you know, they're kind of half-assing it and grab-assing it throughout the day.

Speaker 11 And as soon as practice is over, guys are taking the shower pill and heading home. Then, yeah, it's going to be some confrontations at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry.

Speaker 11 Well, it's going to be confrontation because if, like, they got the number one offense in football, but their defense is giving up 35 points a game. And that's hard to do.

Speaker 11 Like, it's hard to be so extreme on either side of the ball. And

Speaker 11 it can become a heavy burden in the locker room because here's what will happen. Like, we'll be talking about something totally unrelated to football.

Speaker 11 We'll be playing dominoes and somebody will make a comment and somebody will get mad and be like, hey, maybe you should try doing that on the field on Sunday.

Speaker 11 And then now it just blows up and now everybody starts going back and forth. So it's always in the back of our minds.

Speaker 11 Like we always know, hey, we're playing well and those guys are playing shitty, but it never comes out until the emotion boils over.

Speaker 11 And when it does, hopefully at that point, the coach has a good enough control of his team, he can discuss it. But if I were the coach, I wouldn't hide from it.

Speaker 11 Like I would come into the meeting and be like, hey, guys, offensively, we're playing really well, not what we want to be. Defense, hey, you guys got to pick it up.

Speaker 11 So don't be afraid to look at the elephant in the room and talk directly to it. And I think then you can kind of take some of the, I don't know, some of the tension away.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 you got to get ahead of it. You got to accept the fact that the numbers are what they are.

Speaker 5 You mentioned like lifting weights during the season.

Speaker 5 Does that actually help in your experience? Like, what if somebody just decided to stop lifting weights? Don't you get enough like resistance training playing and practicing in the games?

Speaker 11 No, because here's the thing about the like the playing and practice in the game, like that's conditioning, and you get some some ancillary strength, but like you have to train your body, man.

Speaker 11 Like, like those muscles need to be trained, those muscles need to be now. Now, obviously, we're not maxing out.
And for just be careful, maxing out means you put the maximum amount of weight.

Speaker 1 I got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't know if you knew that.

Speaker 11 So, like, like, we're not maxing out, but you have to train, continue to train your body so you can be at peak performance. You know, it's kind of like driving a car and you say, you know what?

Speaker 11 I'm not getting an oil change for a year. It's probably not going to be a good thing.
Like, you got to continue to take care of the car for it to perform at a high level. And the body is no different.

Speaker 11 Like, we got to go in and train it. So

Speaker 11 if a guy's not, now, saying that, most quarterbacks don't lift a ton of weight. Like,

Speaker 11 they're on these, like, Brady's got all these guys on these resistance bands and stretching. And okay, whatever.

Speaker 11 But for a guy like me, like I got to move some weight during the season because I can't go from being able to squat four or five hundred pounds and all of a sudden by the end of the season, I can only do like 350.

Speaker 11 Well, guess what? I'm going to start to get pushed around.

Speaker 5 Right. We have the same policy here.

Speaker 1 Our quarterback, Billy,

Speaker 5 he doesn't lift weight either. And that's just kind of a regiment that we've had him on for quite some time.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. All right.
My last, last question. I'm sorry, I should have brought this up earlier.

Speaker 1 A big theme of this football season because Hank, our producer, has had to finally first time in his his football watching life had to come to grips with is your core is the quarterback that you have on your team the guy does that conversation happen in a locker room is this the guy do people know do they talk to each other like hey this the guy we got here he's not the guy like he you know every now and then he can do some nice things but let's be honest with ourselves he's not the guy you know like it's one of those unwritten or unwritten rules where nobody's going to come out and say it.

Speaker 11 But I think everybody knows. Like, like, you know when you got a guy.
Like, even as a rookie, you can say, okay, man, he's making some mistakes right now.

Speaker 11 But he'll every now and then make that one throw or that one read or that one special play. You're like, okay, I see it.
It's kind of like with Mahomes.

Speaker 11 Like, Mahomes only played one game his rookie year, but the stories of, excuse me, of what he did at practice every day is legendary.

Speaker 11 And those stories let everyone know this dude is going to be like that dude. Like he's going to be a great freaking quarterback.
And I remember watching a guy like,

Speaker 11 I'm sure you guys have had him like Chris Sims. Like Chris Sims was our quarterback in Tampa at one point.
And we knew watching Chris, Chris was smart. Chris knew where to go with the football.

Speaker 11 He was a little scared of John Gruden, but most quarterbacks were. But you knew Chris was always going to do his best and put us in a position to win.
Now, he wasn't going to be spectacular.

Speaker 11 But you knew you could count on Chris to do his job. So you know the levels of what these guys can be.
And

Speaker 11 conversely, when you get a guy like Peyton Manning, like when I walked in the locker room in Indy, it's like the aura of Peyton Manning, the like how he carried himself, how people

Speaker 11 approached him, like how revered he was. It's a different feeling when you got that dude.
Like it's a totally different feeling from a confidence standpoint, from how we approach our work day to day.

Speaker 11 But the players know, like, like, you know what you have from day one. It's just a matter of whether that guy is going to develop or not.

Speaker 1 I like it because, I mean, I think that's kind of where we land. Like, even if you have to ask if a guy is a guy, he's probably not.
Exactly. Like, that's you, you kind of know.

Speaker 1 You just know or you don't. It's, he's the guy.
And you know within the first, you know, 20 starts, I'd say.

Speaker 11 Oh, but you know, within the first 20 practices. Like, you don't have to see it.
Like, you want to see it on the field to kind of confirm.

Speaker 11 But man, it's just the way these dudes carry themselves and how they act at practice and how they're focused.

Speaker 11 Because that position, unlike any other, it's not about how big and tough you are and how fast you run like it's not about that that position is about do i have a dude that's going to approach this job as a as a profession he's going to make great decisions that's why to me and and i'm not trying to stereotype anybody but i like when my quarterback shows up to the podium with a nice suit on got a nice brief uh backpack like he's coming to work like this is business like i'm approaching this like i'm the ceo of a company because think about it if these teams are worth four or five billion dollars what did broncos sell for like 4.6 billion and you're the quarterback isn't russell wilson he may not be the ceo but isn't he like the ceo like he's he's up there like if you're the quarterback you're up there so you got to approach your job that way man yeah yes who's the most recent guy to get anointed is jalen hurts is he the guy it's close i'm i'm not ready to anoint him just yet through four games But if he continues to play this way, he'll get $250 million when the season is over.

Speaker 11 And he will be,

Speaker 11 it'll be a great story because I'll be the first to admit publicly, even though everybody, oh, yeah, I knew Jalen was going to, I had my doubts, man. Like,

Speaker 11 if you go back to the game they played against Tampa in the playoffs last year, he looked bad. Like he looked, he looked so bad.

Speaker 11 Well, the improvement he's made from game one to where he is now has been outstanding. I give him credit.

Speaker 11 And if he continues playing at the current level, he will be a $250 million quarterback and the franchise quarterback.

Speaker 11 And that'll give Philadelphia a lot of flexibility because of the draft capital that they have coming up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think in my mind, the most recent person to become a guy was Joe Burrow. I'm trying to think if there's anybody that's become, that's developed into a guy.

Speaker 5 Like at the end of last season, so far this season.

Speaker 11 But when this guy's getting close, but Joe, like Joe Burrow left LSU as the number one pick. Like, did you ever think he was not going to be the guy?

Speaker 5 I think every year one, like every rookie that comes in, you wonder, there are moments where you're like, I don't know, is this guy the guy or is he just a dude yeah

Speaker 11 it happens it happens yeah i think i think jalen has taken that step uh tua

Speaker 11 hopefully comes back and is able to play this year like he's he's a little behind but he can still finish the season out and maybe take that step um lamar obviously is on a different level right now uh yeah um

Speaker 11 Collar has gotten paid like he's taking that step, but I think some of us doubt that he has.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's a good case of like the guy test. Yeah.
Because you're like, I think it is, but there's also times you're like, I don't know if that is.

Speaker 11 For college, it depends on if the iPad is working that week.

Speaker 1 Like if the iPad is working, he's in good shape.

Speaker 5 Yes. Yeah, you never, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 5 You would never put a clause in a guy's contract

Speaker 5 that they have to watch film four hours a week.

Speaker 1 You would put it in a guy's contract that they have to like spend time with their family for a couple hours, like Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 The other way around. You got to take a break.

Speaker 5 We want you to be balanced. Maybe, hey, Tom, would it be okay if maybe you tried playing some Call of Duty occasionally during the week just to get your mind off football?

Speaker 1 That's a guy's contract.

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Speaker 1 So we got to watch it. We got to do.

Speaker 1 Always feels special when you get a

Speaker 1 pre-release viewing. And they have the watermarks, which just makes me want to put out a picture with the watermark.
Yeah, it makes you feel so cool when you're watching that.

Speaker 1 But this was an awesome documentary. If you are a basketball fan, just the fact that you have interviews with Kobe and behind-the-scenes stuff with Kobe was cool.
And it's just, it's crazy too.

Speaker 1 It was like a time capsule because you got to to see LeBron before he won anything. You got to see, like, Mello, you know, the greatest Olympian of all time.

Speaker 1 All these guys, Cebuz was in there, Carlos Boozer.

Speaker 5 I'd like to say, I had completely forgotten about one of my favorite Olympians of all time.

Speaker 5 One of my favorite basketball players of all time, Tayshawn Prince. Yes.

Speaker 1 Tayshawn Prince. Him and Deron Williams.
It's like you forget how good they were. And Michael Redd for that time.
Michael Red was a beast. Michael Redd was nice.

Speaker 5 Like, Tayshawn Prince, the purpose that he served on that team was basically like, okay, we've got a bunch of superstars, but this guy, this guy has beaten all of you in the NBA on a team filled with not superstars.

Speaker 5 And in a way, he was like the defensive leader of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it's a very cool documentary.
It goes through the entire history of like USA basketball. David Stern.

Speaker 1 I love David Stern like flexing on everyone, being like, yeah, we're sending our pros in the early 90s. For marketing.
Yeah, for marketing.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, we're just going to dominate, which obviously everyone remembers the dream team. I would say the dream team was the greatest basketball team of all time.

Speaker 1 And it's not even close. Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 probably not close, but this team was very, very good.

Speaker 5 The dream team did not use it. I disagree.
The dream team did not use a timeout the entire tournament.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I definitely think it's the dream team, but I'm just saying this team was fucking stacked.
And

Speaker 1 it is very

Speaker 1 five-point game in the gold medal game. Well,

Speaker 1 the world had caught up. That was the whole

Speaker 1 premise behind the documentary. The league had caught up.
That quote from the Argentinian player after they won the gold in 2004, I want to say in Athens, when he's like, it's not a one-on-one game.

Speaker 1 Like, it's a a team game. And you're like, oh, yeah, I remember how they just basically did pick and rolls and beat the fuck out of us.

Speaker 5 Yeah, for a while, I think USA basketball strategy was we're going to get guys that are sick at dunking.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 5 And then we'll have one guy that's like a 350 three-point shooter

Speaker 5 from beyond the arc. So then in this,

Speaker 5 they tried to like, they put together a concerted effort to make a comeback to build an actual team of basketball players, not just athletes. And surprise, we're still the Kinks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think my favorite part was when it was after they lost in 2004, and they were like, Who's going to coach this team? What are we going to do?

Speaker 1 And they asked Dean Smith Calangelo did, and he said there's only one coach that can do this. That's just Dean Smith.
That's Coach Kay. Yeah.
So, all right, so good. So, I'll do my favorite part.

Speaker 1 My favorite part was when

Speaker 1 I don't know when they taped this, I would assume it's been a couple years in the making.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Dwight Howard was wearing a Kobe shirt, which I don't think he'd be wearing before.
All right, so let's say it was a year ago. Is that fair? Sure.

Speaker 1 Okay, so my favorite moment was when Coach K said, when we lost in 2006 to Japan, I've never had a defeat worse than that. Hmm.
Wonder if that's still the case. Yeah, it is the case.

Speaker 1 He's an American patriot and he cares about his country. He's still in his team.

Speaker 5 Wait, there are two losses that happened. Coach K,

Speaker 1 the way that he got him to buy was just like

Speaker 1 Coach K. Yeah, a lot of F-bombs.
Not good for the kids.

Speaker 5 Coach K was like, listen, we're going to serve overseas, guys. Yeah.
As a unit. I'm excited to try this out.

Speaker 1 I just wonder if Coach K would still say that.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he'd say it. I don't don't know if he'd say that his worst loss was 2006 to Japan when he lost to his bitter rival in his last year coaching.
Twice. Allegedly last year coaching.

Speaker 1 Twice, and one of them including in the Final Four, the first time they ever met in the NCAA tournament. Huh? I actually thought about that the other day.
Grandma.

Speaker 1 Actually, that shit is, that was bad.

Speaker 1 I don't know that I'll ever, like, that was bad.

Speaker 1 The Patriots Eagles was also bad.

Speaker 1 When you were talking about the watermarks, when we were watching it, that moment when Coach K said said when we lost in 2006, it was the worst defeat I ever had, I was like, I can't wait till this documentary comes out on Netflix, and I'm going to clip this and tweet it out.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be great. And it's going to be great.
So it is a great documentary, though. Like, it is the perfect documentary if you are a fan of, if you are too young to remember.

Speaker 1 I learned a lot. Yeah, the dream team.

Speaker 2 I still remember them losing in 2004. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So this is your team. It's a stain.
It's all the guys.

Speaker 5 It was a stain on American basketball. It was.
When we started to lose. We actually, we were in danger of just becoming losers for a while, which would have been very embarrassing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that clip with the,

Speaker 1 like, it was like local news, and the woman was like, they call them the dream team. They're more like the cream team.
I was like, damn, brutal. That's like Derek Eater.
Yeah. Yeah, Derek Eater.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, you can't come back from the cream team. A lot of excuses from LeBron, but.
No, I like seeing LeBron because, again, it's like a time capsule.

Speaker 1 You get to see LeBron before he became like truly LeBron and winning all the rings. And he was still in Cleveland.
And he even said something like that. Like,

Speaker 1 I would love to have a ring, like, in like one of those clips where he's walking down the hallway. You're like, oh, yeah, shit, this is 2008, 2008.

Speaker 5 That's when everybody liked LeBron. Yeah.
He didn't really have any natural predators out there. Everybody was like rooting for him because he was on such a bad team.
Right. And he was so likable.

Speaker 5 Everyone's like, I really want LeBron to win a title.

Speaker 1 And it's also just great seeing Mellow in his just his element USA basketball. But yeah, go watch it out now

Speaker 1 on Netflix. The Redeemed team.
It's a perfect hour and a half watch

Speaker 1 and very cool behind the scenes. Like, just watch.
We don't want to give too much away. Watch for the Kobe Palgasol storyline.
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 Like, that was a great, that was the moment where I was like, this documentary rules. So check it out.
Netflix, it is streaming now. It's called the Redeemed Team out on October 7th, only on Netflix.

Speaker 1 So make sure you have Netflix and watch, and you can decide who is the GOAT USA basketball team of all time. All right.
Fire Fest of the Week, wrapping up.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, shout out Hank. He hasn't called me fat once this episode.
No, I never would.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 satirical. No.

Speaker 5 Have you thought it? Today? Yeah, have you thought that Big Cat was fatty?

Speaker 1 No. Of course.
Be honest. Be honest.
Of course not. Not today.
I have.

Speaker 1 When I'm walking down the hallway, Hank is just in his mind just being like,

Speaker 1 No, again, it's usually like when you talk about food. Like when you say 14 hot dogs in 12 hours isn't that much,

Speaker 1 that's that's a fat ass statement. Not that you're a fat ass, but the initial debate will be on PM TV.
Oh, yeah. So if you want to see what's actually sparked that, go to the PMT YouTube.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A Higgs phone call.

Speaker 1 Which I

Speaker 1 that's going to make me look that's going to make me look so bad. Well, you look bad in the moment.
But I was,

Speaker 1 you weren't in the room and I was like, I'm going to hop in this call real quick. And then you came in.
So it's like you didn't know that I had said that I'm going to hop on this call real quick.

Speaker 1 And you're just like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 So it's going to make me look bad. But I had like said what I was doing, whatever.
Okay, it is what it is: slander. Um,

Speaker 1 just so you know, it will look bad on PM TV, but it was bad in the moment for everyone.

Speaker 5 It was, it was actually funny how bad it was.

Speaker 1 It was like it was shocking to me just from when Hank, it wasn't that like that.

Speaker 5 My eyes got like wide as saucers. I was like, I can't, Hank is Hank is him right now.

Speaker 1 Well, I knew I was like, oh no,

Speaker 1 I put it together afterwards. Like, Big Hat didn't hear me when I was like, because I had my headphones in and stuff.

Speaker 1 I was talking directly at you, and you're just like, after three minutes, you're like, what? Sorry. I'm on the phone.

Speaker 5 It was honestly, like, impressive.

Speaker 1 It was. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 What's your fire fest? That.

Speaker 1 Oh, that you're going to look bad? Yeah. No, just, you know, I apologize.
It's one of the, I was just like, I do not take offense. A lot of shit was happening and I was just trying to navigate it.

Speaker 1 And I navigated it poorly. My real Fire Fest, though, is I obviously talked about it years ago when it was on, how obsessed with Game Game of Thrones I was.

Speaker 1 We talked about the final season and stuff on this show. I hated the last season.
COVID happened. Could have watched anything.

Speaker 1 People watched, I watched hundreds of shows, thought about Game of Thrones. I was like, fuck that.
I'm not re-watching it. Even though I used to love it, I'm not re-watching it.

Speaker 1 This new show came out. I didn't watch any of it.
And then this past weekend, I watched every episode. And now I'm just like, all the way back.

Speaker 5 You're back, yeah.

Speaker 1 It has that, like, it's got my attention. I think about it, like, during the day, I read the threads.
I watch videos and stuff. I don't really like it.

Speaker 5 I think it's pretty good. Oh, it's great.

Speaker 5 My only complaint was the most recent episode felt like it squeezed nine episodes into one.

Speaker 1 It's one of those shows that, I think actually Dave said this. Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 I was a reminder to do a nod after this.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's one of those shows.
I like the show and it's very interesting, but there's many moments where I'm like, why am I watching this show?

Speaker 1 Like gory moments like this is not fun.

Speaker 1 There was

Speaker 1 your favorite people. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Game of Thrones. Right.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 5 It's going to be incest and violence.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 5 That's what you're signing up for.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 I think it's like a seven out of a possible 10 if we're considering the original Game of Thrones like a 10. It's pretty good.

Speaker 5 It reminds me enough of the original Game of Thrones where I'm like, okay, I'll watch this. But I don't, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 5 When I come home from work on Monday or Tuesday, I'm not like rushing to watch this show. It's more of like a later on in the week type of watch.

Speaker 5 Whereas if that was Game of Thrones, if if I don't watch it either Sunday night or like Monday right after work, I know it's going to be spoiled. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Your Fire Fest, PFT.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest is: I

Speaker 5 people that listen to this show will know that I drafted a fantasy baseball team again this year. The Seam Hat Express.
We were a fucking wagon during the regular season.

Speaker 5 I paid attention to baseball as much as I could. Yeah, I didn't set my lineup every day, maybe like a couple times a week.
Was number one seed in the entire league, right? Yep.

Speaker 5 Made it to the playoffs. I got out to an early like 100-point lead in the playoffs against the despicable Bun Jeter in the finals.
Yep. And I checked it yesterday, and I was making all these moves.

Speaker 5 I was so, like, I was, I was checking my fantasy team three, four times a day, making sure I had all the positions right, making sure that I was putting pitchers in that were starting that night.

Speaker 5 I was even going onto the waiver wire, and I was getting pitchers

Speaker 5 that were going to be starting that night, and then just trying to stack my bench as much as I possibly could. And then I checked it yesterday

Speaker 5 and yesterday was the last day that I had and all my pitching stats were at max, max, max, max, max and I wasn't getting any points.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 So you lost.

Speaker 5 I broke some rule of the league that I didn't know existed. And by adding all these pitchers off the waiver wire.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you had a strategy that got you to the number one seed in the championship of the playoffs, and then you abandoned that strategy.

Speaker 5 Well, because I was going up. You deserve to lose.
Fucking Bun Jeter and Bun Jetetetetetetetetetet.

Speaker 5 Bun Jeter was doing the same thing that I was. Go in with the horse you rode in on.
So

Speaker 1 this gets kind of crazy.

Speaker 5 Can someone explain to me what that means, though?

Speaker 1 I can't. And neither can you.
Maybe if you had tried the strategy out in the regular season, you would have learned the error of your ways.

Speaker 1 You can't switch up in the championship.

Speaker 5 No, the entire... Big cat, do you know what that means, though? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Max. You lost.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it means you lost. No, the max doesn't mean that I lost.
The max meant that I wasn't getting any more points for any of my players who were out there actually pitching.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I don't know. Nor do I.

Speaker 5 For some reason.

Speaker 1 I just heard what you said, and it's just like, why switch it up?

Speaker 5 For some reason, I got fucked over by our league scoring system in the championship game.

Speaker 1 Have you reached out to the commissioner?

Speaker 5 And I ended up losing. I was in the lead, and I ended up losing 801 to 671.

Speaker 5 And I got the second-place trophy. And now all my pitchers

Speaker 5 just say max, max, max, max, max, max, max on it. I don't know what's going on in this league.

Speaker 5 I think I violated a league rule. I think the commissioner

Speaker 5 singled me out and came down on me.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Have you reached out to the commissioner? Sorry for your loss.

Speaker 5 I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Have you reached out to the commissioner?

Speaker 5 I don't know who the commissioner is.

Speaker 5 It's a league of random people that I got assigned to in like early April.

Speaker 1 Sorry for your loss.

Speaker 1 You have no one to blame but yourself, IML.

Speaker 1 Not to be offensive, but.

Speaker 5 I mean, I'm not offended by it.

Speaker 1 You got to look in the mirror. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm not offended by it. I'm just saying, like, I made...

Speaker 5 I made good moves, and this guy, Bun Jeter, was stacking up his pitching lineup every night. I tried to do the same thing, and I got punished.

Speaker 1 You tried to play his game, not your game.

Speaker 5 It seems like unequal enforcement of the rules. Yeah.
That sucks.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 You're not sorry.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just, I'm saying sorry. I don't care, but I'm sorry.
You're not sorry at all. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't, I, yeah, I don't, I do not care.

Speaker 5 I put my heart and soul into this team.

Speaker 1 So much so, like, half the time you're like, oh, fuck, I forgot to start this guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but that's in the regular season.

Speaker 1 But that worked.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it worked. I had a great season.
And then you changed it. So year two in a row, year two,

Speaker 1 runner-up.

Speaker 5 C-Met Express. We're like the USA rugby of fantasy baseball teams.

Speaker 1 I'm the meme right now. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm not listening to all that, but I'm sorry that happened to you or happy that.

Speaker 5 Listen, a lot of people out there did care about the Seam Head Express.

Speaker 1 That's how I feel right now, but I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 A ton of people out there cared about the Seam Head Express. If not in this room, that's fine.
I'm just.

Speaker 1 None of us in this room cared, including yourself. Correct.
Correct. Correct.
So, yeah. Correct.

Speaker 1 You can't expect other people to care if you don't care.

Speaker 5 I did not care about this team until the finals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's brutal.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest is.

Speaker 1 It's really just dealing with Stu Feiner all the time.

Speaker 1 He just says that he's going to retire every week. And it's just now I'm going to lean into it, I guess.

Speaker 1 He just keeps doing this and I don't know what to do with it because everyone's just like, oh, he's retiring. He's retiring.
He just does this for drama and I have to just play along now.

Speaker 1 He's a little bit of a sympathy farmer.

Speaker 1 I know. I know.
A little bit. I think he did it once.
He loved the outpouring of support and like, don't retire too.

Speaker 1 So he's like, in classic Stu fashion, I'm just going to do now just beat the shit out of this horse until it's dead. Yeah.
A hundred times.

Speaker 1 And everyone's going to, every time, he's basically saying that he's dead every time. So everyone could be like, you're a legend.
I love you. Don't like fuck Dan.

Speaker 1 Like, why would he, you know, squeeze you out? It's like, well, what do you mean to do, dude? He's going to keep doing it. He is.
He, it would be funny if Stu did like the mental health card.

Speaker 1 I don't think if he was like, yeah, I'm checking myself into a hospital. Like, he, he probably will do that, actually, now that I'm saying it.

Speaker 1 Because that's the next, that's the final boss of the sympathy farming.

Speaker 5 So is he not actually quitting?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Maybe, but no. But yeah, he just keeps doing it.
And I just keep having, he keeps tagging me in it, too. Like, I wouldn't care if he didn't tag me, but he tagged me today and was like,

Speaker 1 I love working with Big Cat. Like, that's it's a dream of my life.
I'm going to miss him so much when I retire. And everyone's just like, why the fuck is that?

Speaker 5 That could be true, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, sure. I'm looking at the camera.
But I'm going to be true. It's freaking out.

Speaker 5 If you just say, like, hey, I really, you know, I'd like to thank everybody that I work with right now, Big Cat, Max, Hank. Jake, to a lesser extent, Billy.

Speaker 5 Like, I just want to say that I appreciate you guys. I appreciate coming to work.
You've been nothing nothing but professional, and I'm going to miss you when I stop doing the show.

Speaker 1 What did that could be?

Speaker 5 That's all accurate, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, except that he did, as my time with Parsfool Sports is coming to an end. Oh, so he just said he was sympathy farming.

Speaker 5 Oh, when you, what did you tweet?

Speaker 1 You tweeted, I think it was when Liam, you're like, oh, we have show news announcements coming tomorrow. Yeah.
And everyone was like, the show's over. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, you could do, you could easily rig it where you can sympathy farm being like big announcement. Like we've talked about it, like just saying BMT is done and it's like for the weekend

Speaker 1 so we'll see on Sunday all right Jake finish this off yeah so uh Wednesday I was a good Jew I fasted so I was starving all day it's all right so

Speaker 1 I know I know how you you mean to say that but when you start out like that I it sounds racist but it's not why I don't know I don't know just it's just no he was saying that for his grandmother who might be listening yeah yeah that was what he was doing so all day you're starving and then when you break the fast you just your your tummy hurts.

Speaker 2 I eat like two pounds of tuna, like two bagels, and then you feel like crap.

Speaker 1 Out of a can? What? Out of a can? No. You got to just slow yourself back in.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Easier said than done when you're starving and there's food in front of you.

Speaker 1 Or just don't do any of that.

Speaker 2 Or not fast. This is my second year.

Speaker 1 Wait, what about the

Speaker 1 tweet about you had to run around New York trying to find a falafel or whatever?

Speaker 2 Yeah. What? I went to like three grocery stores to find a holla.

Speaker 1 What? Oh, okay. Yeah.
And that was Tuesday. A falafel, Hank? Brutal.
Yeah. He nailed it.
That's more rain nailed than. Yeah, he nailed it.
I know it was.

Speaker 1 Look at your falafel.

Speaker 1 Jids, don't do it. Yeah, I don't know.
Did you do the water part?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 So you drank water. You had

Speaker 1 to drink water. It was just eating.
We knew that. How bad do your breath smell? Probably pretty bad.
Ugh. Gross.
Two bagels?

Speaker 2 Two bagels. A lot of tuna.
Falafel.

Speaker 1 Some falafel.

Speaker 5 I would love to hear Hank explain what Judaism is.

Speaker 1 Any religion. Any religion.
No, halala is

Speaker 2 probably the most underrated type of bread.

Speaker 1 It's good bread.

Speaker 5 It's really good. That's a good debate that we can have.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Mountain Rush more breads next year.

Speaker 1 Judaism is just Christianity, but it's zero BC and before.

Speaker 1 They don't mess with it. There's one book.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. There's one book.
It's old school. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's Tom Brady with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Oh, gee, shit. They don't, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it, right?

Speaker 1 By the way, I think Chaps is going to be watching. Oh, so Jaguars are going to have to be on not quad bottles.

Speaker 5 Okay, so

Speaker 5 Jaguars, Texans?

Speaker 1 That really fucks us.

Speaker 1 He might not get that.

Speaker 5 He also has to get creamed.

Speaker 1 He does have to get creamed.

Speaker 5 He owes me a creaming. Cream team.

Speaker 1 Okay, numbers. Have you ever gotten this, Hank? No.
Eight.

Speaker 1 17. 26.

Speaker 2 What if 69 hit it?

Speaker 1 I'll get 69. Yeah, I'll get 69.
What were you maxed? 22. What did you say, Hank? 17.

Speaker 1 Is it on, Jim? 1-7 in your face.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 14

Speaker 1 years. Sorry, Hank.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Hank. I'm rooting for you, bro.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 5 Jake, do you have a nano effect?

Speaker 5 I forgot one.

Speaker 5 I don't know what to say. I'd say anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's end of my day. I'm going to shining away.

Speaker 1 I'll probably come before your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Stay on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 be less insane.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting here, but be stumbling way.

Speaker 1 Something that is okay, stay after me.

Speaker 1 My life's the better to be safe and tell me.

Speaker 1 me. I'm

Speaker 1 the true.

Speaker 1 Let me see

Speaker 1 all of them. Just play me very easily.

Speaker 1 You are the best I do remember. You shine light.

Speaker 1 Lock dreams in the right light. Day coming.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on me.

Speaker 1 Take on me. Take me away.

Speaker 1 isle,

Speaker 1 take on me,

Speaker 1 take on the island, and

Speaker 1 go

Speaker 1 take on the earth,

Speaker 1 take a meal, take on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take a meal,

Speaker 1 take a meal.