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Today is Friday, I almost said November, October 7th. And that was a hell of a game, fellas.
We watched Broncos, Colts. It was disgusting, and of course it ended with Russell Wilson being too afraid to throw the exact same play that he threw the interception in the Super Bowl.
K.J. Hamler wide open on the rub route, and the Broncos are booty.
It was gross, it was deplorable, and it was awesome. It was a great game of football.
for all the people that left, for all the Broncos are booty. It was gross.
It was deplorable. And it was awesome.
Yeah. It was a great game of football for all the people that left, for all the Broncos fans that headed for the exits before overtime started.
That's a tough look for you guys. Bad sports town, potentially.
We'll put that in the... We're keeping an eye on Denver for the bad sports town.
They might be the bad sports town of the South. Yeah, no, it was bad.
It was basically just... It was so bad.
You okay, Hank? It was so bad, it got funny. Yeah.
And then it got exciting because it was close, and even a bad game that's close is like, ooh, drama. And we saw Matt Ryan almost get decapitated.
We saw Russell Wilson just – can we just say he stinks?

Because he stinks.

Russell Wilson sucks.

He stinks.

I think he sucks right now.

It's worse than stinks.

He's throwing behind everybody.

He's playing like – he's scared to do anything out there.

He's terrified.

The play calling – listen, we interviewed Nathaniel Hackett.

I've tweeted out clips of the interview every Friday just about for the last month by accident. So um so some people are like hey you guys won't ever trash him because he came on your podcast that might be true but i will here's what i'll do instead i will trash us for not trashing nathaniel hackett we are fucking frauds big cat for not saying anything bad about nathaniel hackett because he he is you want to talk about booty cheeks nathaniel hackett is booty cheeks and if we didn't say that then we're frauds and you know what's weird though like nathaniel hackett has obviously had some very uh public moments of stupidity as a as a new head coach i actually don't put this one on him this was just rust playing terrible like i actually liked when nathaniel hackett went forward on fourth and two to try to win the game, and I liked it.
I think it was a run-pass option that Russ threw that second interception. Russ was just bad.
You pay the guy $250 million to make plays to win games? He stinks. I don't like the play calling at the end of overtime when they were down inside the red zone and they just ran the ball up the middle, ran the ball up the middle, ran the ball up the middle.
It almost worked. Then guess what? Melvin Gordon got a helicopter.
Then guess what? Fourth down comes. What do you do? We're going to line up and shotgun on fourth and one.
Oh, wait. Wait.
Wait. Time out.
Let's call a time out. Let's talk about it again.
We'll send him out there. He's in shotgun again.
But again, that play worked. That was Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson didn't, like, KJ Hamler was wide open. I still hate fourth and one out of shotgun.
Listen, I'm just saying, like, Nathaniel Hackett has proven to not be a very good coach thus far. We're hoping that he gets better because we did interview him once and would like to interview him again.
We're being frauds by not. Well, because we have a lot of things that we can make fun of him for.
Like, the best case scenario is Nathaniel Hackett figures it out and and wins a couple super bowls and we can interview him again and be like dude remember that time when like your brain stopped on the sidelines in seattle in week one of your like head coaching career and we can have a great laugh but i still will maintain like this loss is on russell wilson those throws are not there you you're paid 250 million dollars you got traded for you you asked your way out of a bad sports town to another bad sports town, right, Hank? That's what you were saying. You're like, all these towns are just bad sports.
I love the city of Seattle. Hank's right.
And Denver. I think it follows him around like Pigpen from Charlie Brown, like the cloud of dust that goes everywhere he goes.
That's Russell Wilson just exuding bad attitudes towards fans. Well, that's what I realized.
The bad sports sound came because Seattle fans were booing Russell Wilson, and I thought that was on Seattle. And then the Denver fans were leaving the game because of how bad Russell Wilson is.
So it's actually not the towns that are bad. It's Russell Wilson is a bad sports sound himself.
That was. I actually, if you're like an owner of a team, especially thealtons who have whatever how much money like i don't even know like billions and billions and billions they just bought the broncos for four and a half billion dollars i would just pay jeff bezos or the nfl and be like hey you can't show our fans leaving ever like that's just something you can't do because it's always looks bad it especially looks bad when it's a tie game going to overtime and it's 9.30 at night in Denver.
I was going to say that Russell Wilson is like a Walmart product. And they're probably very happy.
He fits in very well with the stable things that they currently sell as the Walton family. But I'm not saying that Russell Wilson isn't bad.
He was extremely bad tonight. I'm just saying that if we were, if we had scruples as a podcast, we would attack Nathaniel Hackett more.
But we'll get into that later. Maybe he'll continue to screw up and further down the line we'll be more aggressive towards him.
But I'm just saying that I am currently being fraudulent by not treating Nathaniel Hackett as I would treat another coach. Yeah, I just honestly think that Nathaniel Hackett has been bad as a coach so far, but this game was not – if I put the blame pie, the majority of it goes to Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson was trash. That's the second interception in the end zone where he just throws it so late, and it's like, dude, all you need to do is make a safe play here and you can kick a field goal.
At least just get – no one can score touchdowns. Don't be a hero, but that's what, he's trying to be a hero.
He's missing, like, the easy throws. It's crazy.
It's crazy to watch. And again, listen, it might be harsh on Russell Wilson, but $250 million.
$250 million in draft picks. That's what got traded for.
When you trade for a guy who's supposed to be the one quarterback away and fix everything and he plays like that, he should get the majority of the blame i'm curious to know how hank feels watching these games because it's you know obviously matt ryan russell wilson the two teams are the two quarterbacks that hurricane hank and the patriots have run through they've broken them two two quarterbacks that have failed on the most spectacular levels possible against the patriots do you watch this game just like a sicko Just like this is fun watching what I've done to you. I mean, watching Russell Wilson shotgun at the goal line obviously brings back memories.
It was the same play. It was the same play.
It makes me feel old because Tom is kind of washed now. These guys are both super washed.
It's like, you know. Are any of these quarterbacks getting back to the Super Bowl? Oh, I like what he just did there.
Because he's like, Tom is sort of washed, but then he's like, Tom's like 14 years older than him. He's not really washed.
He's playing better than both these guys. He can score touchdowns.
Right, right. Broncos KJ Hamlin, to me on the final play of the game, I could have walked in.
Yeah, he was wide open. He was pretty upset about it.
Like, go watch it. He was wide open, and it's probably one of the easiest throws a quarterback can make in, like, a second and a half.
I think he just decided before the play was even snapped, he was like, I'm going to my left. No, he said, I'm going to find the best defender on the Colts, Stephon Gilmore, right now, and just try to throw it at him.
It's like in Madden. Do you guys ever just say, like, yeah, I'm throwing it to B? Yeah, that's what you're doing.

No, no, no.

But, yeah, but right.

But we're not professional quarterbacks.

Before he got the ball, he was like, I'm going left.

I don't feel like throwing to my right right now bad vibes.

No, I threw.

I get PTSD from throwing to my right at the end of a game down in this area.

Yeah, KJ Hamler was very upset.

I'd rather throw a pick to B than change my instinct and throw a pick. What do you mean? I'd rather throw incomplete to my first gut.
No, I'd rather throw the touchdown that was wide open. Well, yeah, but I'm saying like.
Oh, Madden. No, listen.
I threw six interceptions against Frank the Tank. So I do force it, but I'm not paid $250 million to play quarterback.
And fuck, man.

Now, if Melvin Gordon gets the first down, the Broncos end up winning maybe,

then we're probably just talking about how sad Matt Ryan was tonight.

Because until overtime, Matt Ryan played a very sad game of football.

Oh, very sad.

It was tear jerker.

It was like watching the notebook out there.

I made an analogy that some people said was too far, but I'm allowed to say it, which is that watching Matt Ryan when he's when he's just helpless back there and he's getting crushed by everybody. It's the same feeling that I had when Leroy couldn't get like up and down from the couch that well when I just have to be like, okay, let me just go over there and I'll help you.
I'm saying it from a place of love. Yeah, to put Matt Ryan down.
Every single drop back was like, this could be like a life-ending injury. The way the pass rush would just kind of swarm on him.
And that one play where he actually almost got his head popped off and was like, get this guy out of here. And every pass felt like it was, even the ones that weren't tipped came out tipped and I know that makes no sense but if you watch the game you know exactly what I'm saying and yeah I I would say though that even if the Broncos had won I would have been like this team fucking stinks because who they have they have now I saw one I saw yeah they beat the Texans and they beat the 49ers where Jimmy G ran out of the end zone.
They lost to the Seahawks. They lost to the Colts.
And who is there? The Raiders. You could make the argument.
The Raiders might catch fire here, but you could make the argument their three losses are against bottom ten teams right now. And they're not good.
And I think I saw the stat that Russell Wilson has four touchdowns this year.

Or the Broncos offense might have four.

No, Russell Wilson has four touchdowns this year.

Geno Smith had six in his last game.

That sucks.

Whatever happens in the red zone to them,

they need to rename the red zone in Denver.

The gold zone.

Just something different.

Just call it something different.

Call it, yeah, call it your gold zone.

Call it, like, the G zone.

Well, remember, Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett, yeah.
Yeah, he calls it the gold zone, so he needs to call it the red zone. Yeah, he needs to switch and either that or call it the G spot.
Just like when you get close, you just got to jam it in, Russ. Yep.
That's all you got to do. But maybe not even that because then they try to run.
They run the ball on first down, like, every time. And then they're like, how did we end up here again? Yeah.
On third and eight with Russ having to figure this out. It was a very funny game, though.
It was. It got so bad that it got funny.
Ironically, with the Colts and the Broncos, it is the horseshoe theory of football, whereas in the middle you've got games that can be good, games that can be bad, and then once they get so bad, they good again right top right and it was um we were

in we're in new jersey right now so we have we're in the gambling cave there's six tvs at halftime we're like fuck this we got to watch something that's a little bit better so we had the middle two tvs on the broncos uh colts game and then we had rams chiefs 2018 the 54 51 game whatever it was we had Mahomes versus Baker in college from 2008 uh 16 that was electric we had Wilder Fury and then we had just a compilation of home runs on the other four TVs and it actually made like it was awesome it got us to the fourth quarter because there was there was moments where the game was going on and I was just watching like Baker and Mahomes duel at Texas Tech it completely rocked it was actually the best way to watch a shitty football game ever I highly recommend doing this again in the future I think that we should actually for Thursday Night Football just we'll think it out in advance and figure out what games we want to put on just like blast from the past we made our own room of ESPN classic it was fantastic uh next Thursday we do have fortunately we get to bounce back with a good game finally and it's the bears and the commanders i didn't like people doing like the weak early jokes yeah it was like we're gonna have enough time to make jokes about this game you didn't have to do like you think this game's bad next week's bears command it was bad and you know what i'm already starting to get the vibes i'm in a new positive mindset right now about the commanders i don't like that i feel i feel like next week low-key it might be a banger of a game oh because these are the games that people are always like, it's going to suck, let's not watch. You remember a few years ago, this was like the first, I think it was the first Thursday night football part of my take as a podcast.
It was the Niners and the Rams. And at the time, both teams sucked ass.
And everybody was like, oh, we're not going to watch this game. It was one of the greatest games ever.
So that's the vibe. Was it Niners or was it Vikings? I think it was Niners.
I think it was Niners-Rams. Okay.
We can look it up. Because there was a Vikings game like that, too, Thursday Night Football.
We were like, this is going to suck. And it was, like, incredible.
It was either 2016 or 2017. It would be 2016.
Well, I don't know if Jeff Fisher was. I don't know.
We'll check it out. But I get the same vibes.
Like, next week, Commanders, Bears. We'll make a Mare's bet bet.
We'll have to figure out a mayor's bet for it. It's going to be great.
I'll give you some famous D.C. crack cocaine.
Great. I was going to say you can give me some famous Chicago crack cocaine.
Yeah, it'll be great. It'll be a great bet.
No, it's going to be a terrible game, but I'm excited for it. And I don't like that people were making pre-jokes because that's like we're we're going to deal with it when it gets here.
We have a whole Sunday that we can't enjoy. We have chiefs Raiders Monday night.
Relax everyone. Also last, uh, one last thing, shout out, um, the NFL for their new concussion rules.
Hilarious moment when they had Russell Wilson got dinged up. So the new rule is if you're wobbly at all, you have to come off and you can't come back in the game.
The two rule. So Russell Wilson throws an interception and gets dinged up.
And then they have, they just keep showing like five people huddled around a slow-mo replay being like, oh yeah, we're really doing this. Like it was so transparent what they were doing to be like, look at this, look at they got five different people looking at this one highlight of russell wilson like flailing at someone they were trying to find they're trying to find evidence for him being wobbly yeah and i don't know the guy in the red hat he's the spotter right it should have been his call that guy needs to be in like a mike perreira type control booth yes not on the sidelines surrounded by other people.
Yes. It was, shout out to the NFL.
They always find a way to do it. Do you think that the altitude has anything to do with Russell Wilson sucking? Like short people at altitude? No, I think he just sucks.
An unnatural environment for them? I think he's bought into himself and he's getting older. You know how like water boils differently up there? Maybe the nano bubbles in concussion water don't bubble enough? His brain is broken from the Super Bowl.
And we get the Broncos in primetime next week. Oh, great.
And two weeks after that in London. Who's the Broncos? Who are the Broncos playing in two weeks? Next week.
Next Monday's at the Chargers. Okay.
Chargers will make it fun. It'll be a weird game.
Probably like six guys would get injured from the Chargers. And then home against Jets and then Broncos, Jaguars,

London, 930.

Oh, man.

England deserves it.

England deserves that shit.

Payback for 18-12, bitch.

Wait, so they play Chargers,

Jets, Jaguars?

Yeah, then bye.

It's going to take me

a little bit.

I'm just going to say this right now

to just remember

that the Jaguars are good.

Because when you see Jaguars

on the schedule win,

you know what I mean? In your mind. So it's going to take take me a little bit so yeah um jake did you find that game 2016 so i have the whole 2016 thursday night schedule i didn't see a compilation i'll show you the final scores okay i don't know if there's anything that would well no it would be early in the season right this is the 2016 schedule it might have been 2017 must have been year after yeah check 2017 yeah let's do this it's very important i need to know this this is a new segment.
It might have been 2017 then. It must have been a year after.
Yeah, check 2017.

Yeah, let's do this.

It's very important.

I need to know this.

This is a new segment that we've done a couple weeks in a row

called Remember That Game specifically.

Yeah, we got this.

What it does, it just gets us back in our vibes.

Week three was Rams Niners.

There we go.

That's the one.

That's the one.

That was probably it.

41-39.

Yeah, there we go.

That was a great game.

That was a great game.

That's what we have coming next week. Next week it's going to be maybe a 50-50 tie.
How about that? Bears Commanders. Also, shout out Richard Sherman for just screaming he should have run the ball.
That must have felt good for him. And that was Agami.
It was the pre-me area on the show, but yeah. The pre-space me.
It was like pre-me. That's like cell phone.
It wasspace me. Pre-me.
The pre-me era. We almost had the best GAMI ever tonight.
9-9. Would have been electric, Jake.
You're getting hot with the GAMIs. We need to get the GAMI bet back up.
It was only for the Super Bowl. I ask them every year.
Oh. What were the odds? Plus 2,000 or plus 1,400? That was only for the Super Bowl.
Okay, got it. Here's going to go to Richard Sherman.
He's joining us after the game. You need one yard.
Run the ball. Run the ball.
I love it. All he has to do is run the football.
I love it. I love it.
Hank's got this little shit-eating grin on his face. You just all roads lead back to your glory.
I did that to you. Yeah.
I'm probably going to go watch back highlights of that Super Bowl after this. It's the same play.
It's literally the same play. You know what? It's the ultimate.
The build-up to getting there. It's like you forget the dread like the way you felt when it's like they're losing the Super Bowl.
Hank has. The world would have.
People don't, you know, butterfly effect. Like, it would have been a disaster if the Patriots lost that game.
Yeah. Hank has the ultimate sports spank bank.
No matter how bad things get, no matter how trash your backup quarterback is, no matter how trash the guy that you drafted might not be the guy maybe he's crying, getting taken off the field by two guys. It's all hypothetical.
Hypothetically. Hank can just go home, close his eyes, and be like, that was so awesome when we won that Super Bowl and we were down 28-3.
It was. Yeah.
And I partied with Rick Ross after. God damn it, Hank.
Okay. All right, let's kick it back to ourselves.
Your Hank Bank is incredible. Let's kick it back to ourselves instead.
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Week five. Week five.
I just want to get out ahead of this and say if you're about to send me a statistic online that says what percentage of the way done with the NFL season we are, you're getting fucking blocked. No, listen, I'm always warning people how it's not going to last forever, but it doesn't start happening until like week 10 is when I'll start sending up the bats.
We're still very early in the season. We're feeling good.
Somebody after week one told me what percentage done we were. That's crazy.
I bought a, I went out, I purchased a gun because I'm going to kill that person. That's, that's insane.
It's like Mike Francesa, Mike Francesa. Have you ever seen those clips where every single week he's just like week five, man, it's going by fast.
And like every single week he says that. Yeah.
And it's just like you'd think after doing it for 40 years, time would, you'd be able to understand time. No, I'm amazed by time.
Yeah. To this day, like it's kind of shocking to think that Cleopatra lived closer to today than she did to when the pyramids were built.
Whoa. Yeah.
What is that? The Salvador Dali fact that he, what heali fact? Pablo Picasso. Pablo Picasso was the 1960s or something? He died in 1970-something? Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that will blow your mind. Okay, back to the regular format.
I tried it last week. Didn't work.
That's fine. I'm always listening to the listeners.
I want to make sure we put on a good show for the AWLs. We're going to let's start with our favorites and we'll talk about every game our favorites henry we as a show have been terrible jake do you have the stats billy by the way is uh excused absinthe he's out hunting with sydney wells hunting quail yeah he also in very billy fashion like i did he take it where are they? Connecticut.
Yeah. Okay.
He came to the office yesterday in his hunting quail outfit. Like, he could have.
Well, he just had to. I'll defend Billy on this a little bit.
He runs into people occasionally on the subway that look like they're dressed for a more masculine job than he has. Yeah, so he gets upset.
So, like, if he's wearing, yeah, if he's wearing, he sees somebody wearing, like, a construction vest or they've got, like, some camo on because they're getting back from, I don't know, God knows where God knows where upstate. Billy takes that person.
Yeah, he walks up to him and he's like, this is the first time that I'm actually being a man for a while. I need to make sure that everybody sees what a guy I'm being.
Yeah, when he sees someone with a hard hat on, he walks up to him and he's like, you know Big Cat has soft hands. No, no, no.
He goes up to him and he's like, Loki, I work construction for a summer. Yeah, for my dad.
We're going to do Fantasy Billies, by the way, so we'll save some of this material. Favorites, Hank.
Want the standings? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I stink.
I have back-to-back 0-4 weeks. I am 3-13 right now.
Well, we saw your bracket prediction last year, so this isn't new. Jake, also, you're an announcer.
You shouldn't even be making picks. Exactly.
And, Jake, I just want to set the record straight right now. Jake is sitting in Billy's seat, so I might be mean to you.
Okay. Just out of reflex.
Yeah. The proximity.
That's fair. You stink at picks.
So, I'm 0-8 my last two weeks at 3-13. Woo! Wow.
Really bad. I actually like having Jake around because it makes me feel good.
Yeah. You guys are great.
At least it's over. Hank and Big Cat tied for first and second at 8-8.
PFT and Max at 7-9. Billy at 5-11.
And me at 3-13. Wow.
Start fading me. What will we do if there is a tie at the top? We'll have to figure out.
Wild card weekend. I think last year we did.
You have to keep picking through wild card until Ty is decided. Okay.
Favorites. Henry.
I am going with the Buffalo Bills. Okay.
I think if Mitch was playing, it's a different story. That's his old team.
He knows those guys like a book. But it's Kenny Pickett.
He's a rookie. He's going to get destroyed by that defense.
I think Tomlin is going to go with the Ben Roethlisberger approach because, remember, Roethlisberger as a rookie took over before Cowher was really ready, and they just ran the ball and played hard defense. Two things the Steelers team can definitely do.
Yeah, yeah, they got this on lock. I have a fun staff for you, Hank, for this game.
A couple. This will be the biggest, because it's now 14, this will be the biggest because it's now 14 this will

be the biggest underdog number that the steelers have in 50 years which is crazy next shows you how good of a franchise they are and rookie uh kenny pickett his first start will come against the bill's number one pass defense the last rookie qb to beat the number one pass defense in his first career start. Ben Roethlisberger in 2004.
Wow. Wow.
Changing of the guard. I took the other side on this one.
So Hank and I go head to head. It is so many points.
It's too many points. That's the whole thing.
And you can walk away even if the Bills win by 30. You can walk away being like, it was too many points.
Yeah, it was too many points. These guys get paid to play football too.
too yes it's disrespectful to the Steelers is there any I mean this is probably a better question for like someone that's played in the NFL like a Kyle or something but is there you think there's any any truth to the fact that Mitch you know was on that team last year he might have some better insight to the defense and could play a better game uh I don't know I think that's something that that you like to talk about on a message board. It's good.
It's like a really good thread to write on a message board. You'll get some people breaking down.
But no, I don't think at the end of the day it's going to make any difference. I mean, it's foreshadowing for the USA documentary, but Kobe was like, he knew all Powell stuff.
He's like, they knew what I was doing. I think the problem is with Josh Allen, you still have to stop it.
Yeah. He's like, what are you going to be like? Josh Allen's really good.
Well, that's defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they do have a new offensive coordinator. They obviously run some of the same stuff, so maybe not fully.
Yeah, I was saying for Mitch's side on the offensive end, Bill's defense. Right.
Well, I think Mitch is going to be able to be a really good scout team, Josh Allen, in practice. That might make a difference.
I think it's more that Mitch knows how the offense runs and can tell for the Steelers defense. Got it.
Not Mitch knows how the Bills defense runs for the Steelers offense. Fair enough.
Either way, Bills minus 14. Okay.
That's a good thought to have. Max.
Just my thoughts. Rams minus five and a half.
Okay. A little bounce back against the Cowboys.
Yep. Against the Cowboys.
Fuck the Cowboys. I think they've been overachieving.
I think the Rams have been underachieving. I think this is a good spot for the Rams.
Okay. Their offensive line, not good.
Micah Parsons, good. This game has me so, so confused because I just feel like I'm walking into a trap because I just don't understand how the rams are going to block the cowboys i just don't get it i don't i i saw it on monday night the rams have a ton of didn't they get more guys injured on monday night i think they did i think they had a couple of guys yeah so and i maybe it's the cooper rush will eventually come back down to earth but he is four and oh as a starter i need to know who mike mccarthy broke down on tattoo on tattoo Thursday yeah that's gonna be somebody figure that out for me I want to know who showed off their tattoo somebody pointed out online big time clown Tony O'Brown move by Mike McCarthy not doing tattoos day yeah that would have that would have played that plays way better played that would have played okay uh PFT your favorite this was my easiest favorite maybe ever, perhaps ever.

The Dolphins.

Ooh.

Minus three.

Dolphins minus three.

Three and a half.

Minus three and a half.

Even better.

I like it even better at three and a half.

Teddy Bridgewater, the best quarterback in the history of the NFL

at covering spreads.

Spready Bridgewater.

I saw some people call him Teddy Covers.

No, it's Spready Bridgewater.

He is 42-20-0 against the spread. That hits at a 677 clip.
That's number one by far. He's, in the last 20 years, the most profitable quarterbacks to bet on are one Tom Brady, two Aaron Rodgers, three Peyton Manning, four Drew Brees, five Teddy Bridgewater.
That's as easy as it gets to me. It's nuts.
And he's 24-6 against the spread on the road. And if you want another one to throw in there, the Jets are 1-7 against the spread in the last eight divisional games.
Yeah, this is no disrespect against the New York Jets, but it's Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, it is Teddy Bridgewater.
The man is a covering machine. It is Teddy Bridgewater.
All right, my favorite is the Bucs minus nine against the Falcons. home.
Fun fact, Tom Brady is undefeated against five teams in the NFL. Anyone want to guess what the five teams are? Cowboys is one.
Cowboys, he is 7-0. The Falcons? 10-0.
That is another one. That is his best record against any team in the NFL.
He's 10-0 against the Falcons. Jaguars? Nope.
Let's see. He's definitely lost to the Jets.
He's definitely lost to the Patriots. Yep.
No, he's not lost to the Patriots. He's 1-0 against the Patriots.
I'm sorry. So that's the fifth one.
Wow. Okay.
1-0 against the Patriots. And the last two are he's 6-0 against the Vikings, and he's 4-0 against the Bucs.
And he probably will never lose to the Bucs. So, yeah.
What a beast. That's the elite list.
10-0 against the Atlanta Falcons and 9-1 against the spread. He's beaten every team in the NFL? He's beaten every team in the NFL and he's undefeated against those five teams.
That's pretty cool. It's pretty fucking crazy.
I actually should have picked this as my favorite too can i switch no well yeah you

can okay all right you're on you're on it with me he also this will be he's got a lot going on this is a this is a tom brady correct the fucking he's he's got it like there's a lot of outside noise he's going to demolish the falcons it also i think field yates threw this out there um that tom brady has not had a three-game losing streak since 2002.

So that's 20 years.

Damn. I think the Bears probably have a billion of those.
Did you see the over 40 stat? Oh, yeah. That was an insult stat.
That gets thrown out there a lot, though. That's an old stat.
Yeah, so Hank, I think Bears' insult stats are just kind of in vogue right now. Maybe it's just like you tagged in them.

But, yeah, the stat I have right here, Hank, it's from Brendan Segrew. I hope I butchered his name.
Tom Brady has 23,996 career passing yards and 174 touchdowns in his 40s alone. That's 500 more yards and 20 more touchdowns than Bears' all-time passing leader, Jay Cutler.
So Brady, as a 40-year-old plus, would be the all-time leader in passing for the Bears. Cool.
Cool stat, Brendan. I think this was – What makes you even want to do that? This was definitely true last year.
Well, no, not the yards because he has 500 more yards than Jay Cutler. But there were some other things that went around last year about Brady in his 40s being the best quarterback.
Yeah, if you break up his career, he could go to the Hall of Fame in any decade. They're just repackaging.
It's disgusting. They just repackage these stats just to try to get under your skin.
I think that Tom Brady has... This is probably, without a doubt, a bounce-back week for him because he's got so much...
This is everything that he wanted right yeah he's free to just play football focus on football he also um did you guys see cole beasley uh retired and in his retirement message he said he is ready to be with his family after playing in 11 seasons and it's time to be a full-time dad and husband cole beasasley, I'm sorry that you're too stupid to realize that Tom Brady

literally brought you in because he had no receivers for one single week. He's like mad that that happened, but that was so apparent.
It's like as soon as we get Julio, Mike Evans, and Chris Godwin back, you're gone. Yeah, that was always going to be the case at this point.
But he took it personally so that he went back at Brady with that message, which I liked. You think he was trying to get back at Brady with that? I mean, the timing is definitely, it's funny.

For sure. at Brady with that message.
Which I liked. You think he was trying to get back at Brady with that? I mean, it is.
The timing is definitely, it's funny for him to retire a day after the divorce gets made public. It is funny.
Like, I want to go be with my family. But Tom Brady is not the only one that has a family.
Of course. I don't know if Cole Beasley was taking a shot at him or not.
Well, let's. I mean, why can't we believe it? That's the basis of the show is making shit up off.

Beasley doesn't take shots.

Big cat.

Come on.

Yeah, that's true.

All right, Jake, you're doing Billy and your picks.

Correct.

Billy has the Eagles minus five against the Cardinals.

Do we think this is a trap, Max?

Trap doesn't exist for this team.

Okay, good, good, good.

It does feel like this is.

This is going to be in the Hungry Dog. Uh-oh.
Yeah, it is. Wow.
Here's a fun stat about the Cardinals. Not counting the end-of-game kneel-downs at the end of last week, the Cardinals have run five plays with a lead this year.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
They're, What, two and two? Yeah. And they've run five plays.
We said this out on Monday's show, but first half Cardinals are being outscored 66 to 16. They just cannot, they can't get out off the bus playing well.
I did like what Jalen Hurts said this week. They were, he was doing like his press conference yesterday and they tried to ask him about like, okay, what was it like on the Manning cast yesterday? How how was that and they had like all these like questions about stuff that had nothing to do with football and he interrupted the people and he was like can you guys please ask me some questions about the arizona cardinals i want to talk about this game i've been preparing for this game that's nick saban it's fucking locked in yeah like nick saban when that that clip of nick saban last weekend when the reporter was like asked she's like like, yeah, Bryce Young got hurt, but like your team responded and he just was already set, locked and loaded to be mad.
He's like, I don't want to talk about Bryce Young. I want to talk about this team.
It's like, yeah, no, that's what she asked. Yeah.
Nick. There was an all-time Belichick moment earlier this week too where he was talking about, I guess he was like mentioning Bailey Zappi or Mac Jones and then a a reporter like interrupted real quick to throw in like a secondary question.
Belichick was like, well, I was about to go on at length about our quarterback position. But since you interrupted me, sure, I guess I'll talk about where we're going to be practicing this week.
Oh, I love it. Slap him on the wrist.
It was a classic Bill moment. Yes, yes.
Okay, your pick. I'm taking the 49ers minus six and a half at the Panthers the 49ers at the panthers i like it here's a crazy stat for everyone the panthers in the last 21 games are six and 15 overall six and 15 the panthers also in the last 21 games have not given up an opening drive touchdown longest record right now yeah nfl yeah no think we talked about that last weekend.
Yeah, a few weeks ago, but it keeps going. It's the longest record, I think, in NFL history.
It's crazy. In the history of the sport of football.
It's nuts. So, yeah, maybe just bet the 49ers.
You can bet them live because they're not going to score a touchdown. There's like a live market on those opening drives.
Also, Baker Mayfield is addicted to getting his balls swatted out of the air. He's going to get smoked.
It's become a real problem. Yeah, he's going to get absolutely destroyed.
The 49ers defensive line is probably going to have like five batted passes because Baker even said this week, he's like, if anybody out there knows any drills that I can do to avoid getting passes deflected at the line of scrimmage, please let me know because I don't know of any. That's an issue.
That's probably also speaks to his coaching a little bit. Yeah, maybe just get a fucking broomstick.
Yeah, Ben McAdoo. Just hold it up.
That should be the only thing Ben McAdoo does this week. Get a broomstick with tennis rackets duct taped to the end of it and then pretend like you're a Bosa.
And Baker is safe with his job because Sam Darnold, the report, I thought he was closer, but the report has come out that he's nowhere near close to coming back.

So a secure Baker is scary.

Yep.

Yeah, he doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

Okay, underdogs.

There's a lot this weekend.

There are so many underdogs, Hank.

It is the juiciest, by far the juiciest weekend.

It's been a bad, bad start to the year for myself and the underdogs.

Just haven't felt it.

I haven't really gotten that excited feeling looking at these games.

This week, it's like a struggle to find three underdogs for the hungry dog. This week, there's like seven options.
And I love them all. I don't know which one to pick for this.
I don't know what my favorite one is. I like how you're getting pumped up this week because I felt in the first couple weeks of the season, the dogs weren't doing it for you.
They weren't barking. You weren't attracted to that.
You were LGBTQ minus. You were not feeling the underdogs, but it's back in your blood.
I'm feeling them all. Hank, you're 4-0 in underdogs this season.
Wow. I mean, listen, yeah.
It needs them to win outright. I need the money line.
Yeah, I'm ready for this competition. Okay.
So your underdog, Hank. For this contest.
Yeah. I'm going to go with the New York Giants.
Okay. Packers have not looked good this year.
They haven't. They're plus eight.
They almost got beat by Patriots. Bailey Zappi didn't even let them throw and they still almost lost the game.
I don't think they're going to win this game by eight points. That's a lot.
And the Giants are 3-1. The Giants are 3-1.
This game, we mentioned the stat. This is the first time that we'll ever have a London game with two teams over 500.
This also completes the world domination because the Packers are the last team to play a game abroad. They're the only franchise that hasn't played a game abroad.
That's kind of of fun. That is very fun.
Yeah, like we finally have done it. I think we just own the world now.
I'm not going to make an Aaron Rodgers-Prince Harry comparison, even though the comparisons are there with the witch girlfriend and all that stuff. But it is nice to see that we're finally exporting the Green Bay Packers to England, and I do think that the Giants are going to cover in this game, too.
I think that there's a lot of stuff. There's weird stuff that goes into playing a game overseas, like logistics, all that stuff that is out of the ordinary for a normal course of a team's week.
I think that Brian Dable, he's doing every single little thing correctly. It's kind of concerning to me how prepared he's been for this job.
This also is Daniel Jones.

We've always talked about is great on the road.

This is like a super road game.

It's a different country.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I don't hate it.

Also, this was the week that Odell Beckham did his official team visit to the Giants.

Oh, nice.

So he's back in the conversation for them.

I think he's going to visit the Bucks later on this week.

Wait, so he's in London with them this week? No, I think he visited them early on in the week,

like maybe Monday or something.

He is doing a college recruiting tour.

Why not?

Yeah, it's great.

I want his dad to make the announcement

of where he's going to play.

Put on the hats.

Okay, your underdog, Max.

I will be the contrarian of this group,

and I will be taking the Falcons plus 9.5.

Oh, wait.

It's 9.

It's 9.

Nice try. Okay, fine.
Nice try. Does that change your calculus? No.
Was it over nine and a half? No. It was nine and a half this morning.
Quarter-old Patterson I don't think is going to play. Don't care.
That's big. Don't care.
Why would you not care? Don't care. Is this their most dynamic offensive player? He's your best player.
Get Kyle Pitts finally getting involved. He can run.
He can catch. Kyle Pitts has literally done nothing.
The Bucs haven't looked that good. The Bucs haven't looked that good.
Do you have Kyle Pitts on fantasy? I do not. How could you believe that he's going to like that's like I'm trying to speak Kyle Pitts into existence.
I'm also pretty sure that Kyle Pitts is injured right? I don't know if he's injured. I think he's dinged up.
I think he's just been he just hasn't been used. But the guy they have used.
The Falcons are 4-0 against the spread. They're 40 against the spread A lot of points I'll take the Falcons I like my pick Well half less points than you thought Still a lot of points Oh you like it even more Do you think that Will Compton being in the team facility Is going to be a net improvement Or is that going to be a distraction for the Falcons? Major improvement.
Major? Just him being there? Yeah. Or him not getting signed? Great energy.
We've already talked about his great locker room guy. The fact that he wasn't signed to the team makes the rest of the defense be like, yeah, okay, I trust our coaching staff.
Our front office really knows what they're doing. I mean, the rest of the team might go hungry because he might have gotten to the buffet line first, but other than that, I think it major improvement okay pft um my underdog my underdog this week i'm gonna take the steelers plus 14 just too many points too many points too many points too many points okay i'm gonna take the cowboys i think this is one of those ones i'm walking into a trap but i'll just fucking i'll listen sometimes the the mouse gets the cheese the trap doesn't close right right sometimes yeah i just i don't know i come across mouse traps in my house all the time no bait it got taken it got eaten by something yeah but nothing in there yeah and and also the um the cowboys have been playing low scoring games over under is 43 if you have plus it to be a low-scoring game.
That's a lot of points for a low-scoring game. That's my pick.
Cooper Rush. Jake, Billy.
Billy has the Jets plus three and a half against the Dolphins. Of course.
Going against Teddy Covers. So it's me versus Billy.
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We should give the winner of this game the couch.

Oh, I like that.

Just get a new couch.

Send it.

Couchella. Just send it to their fucking house or wherever, you know, their facility.
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Okay, your pick, Jake. I'm taking the Falcons plus nine against the Buccaneers.
Oh, no. Max just made a look like, uh-oh, he thought he was going to be cool, the contrarian.
Now you're with the fucking stinker three and thirteen do you care about cornell patterson he's probably a nice guy he's been on the show no the fact that he's not going to be playing uh arthur smith said uh tom brady does not get enough success uh credit for his sustained success i think tom brady gets the exact amount of oh sportsmanship sportsmanship is anybody he's the undisputed, and he's saying he doesn't get enough credit. What more credit should we be giving Tom Brady at this point? That's why it's an interesting quote.
I guess maybe from his wife. Yeah.
She's probably the last person. Maybe the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe he's going through some shit and not to make jokes at his expense. Yeah.
He deserves that. Okay.
Over. A lot of nice overs.
Kyle, your own foreign overs this year. Not good.
I'm own foreign favorites. I mean, overs just haven't been hitting.
Yeah, that's true. They haven't been hitting.
Yeah, the best is two and two. Right.
But they're coming back. Last week was the beginning of them coming back.
Fact check. Kyle Pitts was held out of practice.
So, hamstring. Interesting.

Nope. Like it even more.

Marcus Mariota has

been hit by a bus. Oh, yeah.

Actually, yes. Desmond Ritter started.

Like it even more. Best.

That would be best case scenario. Like it even more.

Alright, you're over, Hank.

This is my

I hate it so much

and I had it as my under pick but then I switched it to over just because of jared and the red jerseys over 45 and a half with the patriots i think if bailey zappy starts and plays this game it's an easy over i think if it's mac jones he's you know going to be a little bit slower kind of a half bum ankle let me let me help you out i like the under a lot but i'm taking the over let me boost you with somedle me that. Red jerseys.
The red jerseys are going to pop. Jared and the red jerseys on one field.
I can't take that under. That is going to be a great jersey game.
Yeah, they're using the Pat the Patriot logo. Lions totals have gone over by 84.5 points through four games.
And the last seven Patriots home games have all gone over.

So there you go.

I'm boosting you up.

Love that.

Also, I think just on average, if you took the Lions average scoring offense and defense,

isn't it like 65 points per game?

Yeah.

Something like that.

It's crazy.

Here's a quote.

Yeah, that's 84.5 points over the total.

Yeah, it's incredible.

Combined.

It's incredible.

Here's a quote from Bill Belichick this week because we did forget to respect Jack Fox last weekend. He said, Jack Fox is a weapon.
He is a weapon. Kickoff punt.
Punt for accuracy. Punt for distance.
Can throw it like a quarterback. Nice.
Jack Fox, best punter in the league. He's outstanding.
Bill Belichick. There's your Jack Fox respect.
Love it. Love it.
You knew Belichick would get on it. Oh, yeah.
So did you see his pass, though, last week? Yeah. It was a great pass.
It was sick. Yeah.
He can throw it like a quarterback. Yep.
Put it right there. No lies detected.
Max over? Eagles, Cardinals over 49. Okay.
I think that could just be a crazy game. Yeah.
Yeah. Or it could not.
Or we could just dominate. I don't know.
I mean, big credit, this might be a tier rankings, but it's like quarterbacks in which you think their games are going over. Like, Kyler might be at the top of the list.
And it, like, doesn't work. But every time I saw my Cardinals, Kyler points.
He'll just do some cool shit. I don't know why I think that, yeah.
But I feel like, and this is just totally anecdotal evidence, but I feel like the Cardinals lead the league in third and long. Like, they're always in third and long.
And it's always in the afternoon, and I always get pumped up for the over for the afternoon, and they always fucking disappoint me. Yeah, Eagles secondary's banged up.
Yeah, I think the Eagles will. No, I did not say that.
Did not say concern. I need you to be strong for me, Max.
I've been strong, as strong as one could be with this Birds team. But, well, my Birds team, not the other Birds team.
Are they nicked? They're a little nicked. I think Darius Slade's going to play, but, you know.
He's a big game. Yeah, big game Slade.
Yeah. How do you prepare to tackle Kyler Murray? I think that's a big reason why a lot of defensive linemen can't sack him is because there's nobody in the league that's shaped like him.
You've got to try to sit on him. It's a shame Billy's not here.
Yeah, he would tell us easily. My theory is that linemen that are dads are probably better at tackling Kyler Murray.
Yeah, just getting the little kid. It's like scooping up their children.
Yeah. Okay, PFT, you're over.
My over this week, I am going to take the Titans at the Commanders. Oh, gross.
42 and a half. Gross.
Gross game. Gross.
Absolutely disgusting, vile game. This is my do not watch this game of the week.
And unfortunately, I'm going to have to watch. But I have.
You're going to quad box. I've made a resolution, though, because I let the Commanders get to me too much last week.
I'm flipping it.

I'm going positive vibes only.

I'm not going to let them get me down.

Not going to do it.

I'm sorry.

You can try all you want.

I'm going to be positive about this commanders team.

My positive commanders team fact of the week is our running back that got shot twice is now back on the active roster.

And he's probably the best player on our team.

That's huge.

What's the straw update?

Who knows?

I cut my straw.

Oh, half.

We specified.

Half.

I can't and so i people do this shit all the time when they like officially quit a team and they're like okay my fandom is like yeah no you can't ever just quit i can't ever quit because like what if they're good next year yeah and then i'll be the guy that just quit the commanders so the straw will just keep getting smaller the straw is going to get smaller it's like the arrow paradox where you shoot an arrow at somebody and it never actually hits them right because it has to get half the way there and then half the way there and then half the way there so i have schrodinger straw and uh yeah i guess i'm still a fan of the team but i'm just i'm choosing to just it's choosing to just be positive and be like, listen, I'm going to lose, but I'm not going to let it get to this. Getting to a place where a team can't hurt you is a great place to be.
Both of my football teams are in that spot for me right now where I will not let it affect my mood on a Saturday or Sunday. I can't believe no one's taking this.
I have to do it just because it's fun. Raiders Chiefs, Monday Night Football, over 51.
I mean, that's just going to be fun. That's going to be fun.
Eight of the last nine Raiders primetime games have gone over, and the last four times they've played each other, they've gone over. This is one of those ones that might lose, but I don't care because I'm going to sit down on my couch and root for points.
And it's going to be fun. Anytime you see the Chiefs on national television, smash the over.
It's going to be fun. Prime time under status has poisoned my brain.
It really has. It's fucked me up.
But it's switching. Well, not really.
One and two last week. I did under on Sunday, which went way over, and I did over on Monday, which went way under.
Yeah, no, I'm one and one in my last two. Yeah.
So I feel, I don't know, the fact that Sunday went over, that's going to stick my head for a while. Oh, fuck me up.
What about tonight? We'll give a little, you know, for the people. Taking the Broncos.
No, for over, under. Broncos, 21, under.
Colts, 17. So that'd be an under.
Jake. Billy is with you on the Raiders.
Let's go, Billy. Chiefs over 51.
Let's ride, baby. I am on Cowboys Rams over 43.
Stafford's gotta right the ship. Gotta respect Cooper Rush.
Each team just has to score 20. If they don't tie, you'll at least push.
Listen, I've been doing this gambling thing my whole life, and I understand everyone goes through bad stretches, and I suck personally. I'm a loser my entire life, but there's just something about all your reasoning,ake that i'm like you're an idiot at 13 yeah this is how everyone views me it's fun to watch what like i've stepped out and i can see like from 10 000 feet above being like oh this is when i'm like oh and 11 and i'm trying to convince people to take a pick this is how they view me right likeon.
But if I just start getting really cold, I feel like that's when people know about it and I'll start getting some wins. The market will correct itself eventually.
Eventually. And if not, it would be really impressive and the AWS can make some money.
Listen, if you're going to be bad, be the worst. Yeah.
I've always said that. It would be kind of cool if I just kept losing and losing.
I'll start my bowling lessons next week. When I when i started 0 and 11 on advisors if it was 2 and 9 that's not funny 0 and 11 is like what the fuck is going on exactly so i'm 0 and 8 yeah keep it rolling throw up another 0 and 4 yeah why not why not 3 and 17 that would be incredible uh okay uh let's finish off with the unders and we'll hit any games we didn't talk about oh we talked a lot about this game i'm taking the under in the the Falcons box.
Okay. Falcons are banged up.
It's going to be like 31 to

7. Is Kyle Pitts playing?

I think he was held out of practice. What about Quiro Patterson?

Apparently that doesn't matter.

Having a running back

slash wide receiver slash returner that

is faster than everyone on the field.

So many points. Who cares?

Okay. Exactly.

Under Max. Who's scoring him? Who is scoring him? I don't care.
They cares? So many points. Okay.
Exactly. Under Max.

Who's scoring them?

Who is scoring them?

I don't care.

They're going to score them.

I am taking Texans-Jags.

Game stinks.

43 and a half.

Love the Texans money line, though.

Texans at Jags.

Yeah.

You want a stat for that?

The Jaguars have been favored twice in the last two years.

They were minus three against the Texans week one last year, lost 37-21. They were minus six against the Texans last year week 15, lost 30-16.
So this is now the third time they've been favored in two years, and it's always been against the Texans, and the last two times they've lost outright. And if they do, no one's? I feel like this is going to be...
They might get a Blake boost on it. No offense, but the Blake boost was UCF Wednesday night.
Well, I took that, too. That was the Blake boost.
But I feel like the Jaguars could get a Blake boost if they signed Blake to a one-day contract. That would be cool.
Had him retire a hammer him. I agree.
They should do that. They should absolutely do that.
Speaking of which, Blake, very excited on Wednesday. I talked to him yesterday.
He said it was a nightmare because everyone started hitting him up. But because this is why he's our boat, he told everyone asking for an interview that he can't do it because he has an exclusive with us.
So that's why he's the greatest of all time. love him so much but yeah he was like this is a nightmare i just thought i could like go into the bushes like homer simpson and everyone would just forget about me forever okay i'll say i'll say this about blake nobody is going to be better at being retired than blake bortles no he's going to have the best retirement ever he's not going to be like oh you know maybe i'll come back.
I've got the itch to play football again. No chance.
And I also, it's just so Blake, because after we had him on and he announced he retired, I texted him. I was like, sorry if you weren't trying to announce that.
He's like, no, when you asked me to come on for one question, I knew it would come up. So I was like, fuck, I got to say it.
That was it. He knew it was coming, and he just, all right, I got to say it.
Your under. My under is the Niners-Panthers under 39.
Just a PU game. This is my PU game.
No disrespect to the 49ers. I think the 49ers are a good team.
But I think that that defense is just going to eat Baker. Baker's going to end up inside their bellies.
Yeah. Okay, my under is going to be Dolphins-Jets under 46.
I like Teddy Bridgewater to cover the game. Well, I kind of like the Jets three and a half.
But either way, I don't think this is going to be an explosive offense type of game. Jake, finish us off with you and Billy.
Billy is taking the Sunday night game. The Cincinnati Bengals and the Baltimore Ravens under 48 and a half.
Interesting game. Seems like a fun game.
That, yeah, I mean, Ravens at night in Baltimore, all black unis. This also will be a really good, like, we don't have loser leave town matches yet, totally, but this does feel like after this game we're going to walk away being like one of these teams is fully back and one of these teams got big time problems.
This is like losers living in a neighborhood that's being rapidly gentrified in town. Yes.
And they're on the verge of getting priced out. Yes, yes.
And you're under, Jake. I'm going double or nothing with the Lunder.
We've got the Giants Packers under 41, 0-1 on the year. But we can go back to 500.
I got a staff thing that you're not going to like. All right.

So, Lunders, I don't know if Lunders overall are good.

I think since I named them, they went 1-1 last year and 0-1 this year.

At Tottenham Stadium, they're 4-1 to the over.

Ooh.

So, they got that nice fucking double field. That's usually the road team that's scoring those points at that stadium, right?

Yes, that's true.

So, it's a win-win.

Either my historical bad streak continues or we get a Lunder.

Yeah.

I think that the true Lunder is the Jaguars game in London.

Yeah.

That's the one I've got.

Or maybe even like the Dolphins or Bucks when they play.

Yeah.

Last year, Dolphins-Jags was the Lunder.

I think that was Urban Meyer's only win, right?

Yep.

Yep.

That was huge.

Yeah.

Yep.

Okay.

Games we missed.

Chargers-Browns.

Miles Garrett's back, I think.

I think Austin Eckler's going to run for infinity yards.

Are you going to put him in the Mount Rushmore?

I've got him in my Mount Rushmore.

There we go.

That's beautiful.

Bears and Vikings.

I'm dreading this game because the Kirk Cousins people are going to just have a field day on my behalf.

Can I also put Chubb in the Mount Rushmore?

Yeah.

Consider it done.

Let's do our Mount Rushmore right now.

Yeah.

Which we won last week.

Yeah, we've won two weeks in a row. False.
Two out of three weeks. Yes.
I'm doing Lamar. Okay.
Yeah. I love it.
I'm inspired. Yeah.
Starting a revolution. Fuck, why not? Here's the thing about Kirk Cousins, though, is he doesn't really play that well against the Bears.
It seems like teams like the Bears. That's just prime time.
That's his only two wins. Right.
Teams that are similar to the Bears, Kirk Cousins usually will dominate them. Yeah.
Those are the ones that he builds up, like the Kirk Cousins stats. But against the actual Bears themselves, he's not that great.
Yeah. I have a great Kirk Cousins stat.
63-63-1 all time against the spread. Yeah.
So perfect. It's perfect.
So perfect Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
In every way. But, yeah, I'm dreading this game because if Kirk Cousins looks good, people are like, oh, we told you, we told you.
No, you didn't. He's the same guy.
We all know. It really doesn't matter what happens this game.
If he scores, like, 50 points, then it'll be like, yeah, obviously Kirk Cousins beat up against the Bears. Right.
If the Bears win by, like, 15 points, then it'll be like yeah obviously kirk cousins beat up against the bears right if the bears win by like 15 points it'll just be like kirk cousins stinks yeah yeah that's true we've got to think the same way yeah we've got a very good defense mechanism built in against all the kirk cousins takes what's your mount rushmore pick jake while we do the other games i'm gonna go we me and billy are gonna go with jamal williams he's been a beast for the Lions recently. So we got Jamal Williams, Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb, Lamar Jackson.
Love it. Love it.
Let's win this one. 400? 240.
Lamar will maybe get a little higher. Yeah, with the quarterback, I'm going to say 330.
Okay. So check it out, Barstool Sportsbook exclusive.
We've won it two out of four weeks. We're up a lot of units on it.
Seahawks Saints. I kind of love the Saints in this game.
Seahawks love them. Really? Love them.
Oh, I think this is like Saints get right because Seahawks coming off a win. Saints couldn't look worse.
I think the Saints are just bad. I know.
I don't think they're that bad. They got Kamara coming back.
Yeah, and their defense is good. Like, the Saints, yeah, the Saints objectively are kind of a bad team offensively when they're missing Alvin Kamara.
And Michael Thomas. Well, I mean, that's been the case for the last, like, three seasons.
But Kamara, it's like 60% of their offense runs through them anyways. So, I don't know.
I like the Saints in in this game too. Plus, this is round two of the bird gauntlet.

Yeah.

So the Saints have the opportunity to take down every bird team in the NFL.

It's never been done.

Wow.

All right.

You talk me off it.

No, do it.

No, I want the bird gauntlet.

You want the bird alert?

I don't want to fuck with history.

You can't put a price on that.

But it was also Jameis doing the bird gauntlet.

It wasn't really because Andy might be playing.

So it does change a little. It's still the Saints though.
Yeah. Yeah, it is the Saints.
also Jameis doing the bird gauntlet it wasn't really because Andy might be playing so it

does change it's still it's still the Saints

though yeah yeah it is the Saints

I think that was everything I think we hit all the other games

very excited

for Sunday gonna be a great

fucking day yeah we hit all

the other games look at that I

think I like this format a little more

yeah no I do too I listen someone

suggested like hey go in order

and we gave it a try

like I said I'm always open to

Thank you. I think I like this format a little more.
Yeah, no, I do too. Listen, someone suggested, like, hey, go in order, and we gave it a try.
Like I said, I'm always open to listener suggestions, but it didn't work, and I think this one works a lot better. What games are we going to put on the quad box this week? I feel like...
I'll tell you right now. Texans-Jaguars, Commanders-Titans.
Commanders-Titans are definitely going on the quad box. So we have...
it's easier to do the five that are definitely going to be on TV. Steelers, Bills will be on TV.
Chargers, Browns will be on TV. Lions, Patriots will be on TV.
Falcons, Bucks will be on TV. And then it's just a question of who people are betting on.
It's either the Bears, Vikings, or the – the Dolphins, Jets will be on TV. So the quad box would look like Bears, Vikings, Commanders, and yeah.
Texas Jaguars. Texas Jaguars, yeah.
And Seahawks, Saints, maybe. So yeah, it's pretty clean.
It's pretty straightforward. Who's going to be on the quad box? Okay.
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Because he's not here. Fantasy Billy time.
Wait, what song should we put in for Billy? He loves Nickelback. The boy loves Nickelback.
I'm a fan of that. All right, let's go.
What's up, guys? My name is Billy Football. What's up, Billy? Low-key, sup? My starter is Lana Del Rey.
I might not look like it because I just love to live weights,

but low-key, Lana Del Rey is

the GOAT. She's the greatest singer that's ever

lived. Bonk.

Wood. Wood.
I don't care. Bonk me all day.

I gotta do a better voice. Fuck.

My

symptom is a psychedelic rock gecko.

It's found on Hong Kong Island in southern Vietnam's Rich Gibe It spans about 8 kilometers And Hong Tong Isle is an area of just 300 square meters But they're endangered They're getting poached and sold on the black market For like $5,000 I read online that if you grind up If you dehydrate its eye And you grind up and you snort it Low-key,, that's the best way to drain fat from your feet. Yeah.
Anyway. Studies say.
My sleeper, Zach Wilson. He's electric.
He's going to go off this week. Jets are fucking back.
We're going to the playoffs. Nice.
No, it's good. Sick, bro.
What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up, bro? What's up? What's up? Yo, real quick. Can I get you for a TikTok?

What are we doing with it?

Just stand there and look at the camera.

I almost said that was gay.

I'm starting.

This week, I'm starting studies.

Studies. I'm starting lots of studies.

Studies are like simulated hunts for your brain.

Yeah.

They're so cool.

Learning new stuff about things like pumpkins.

I heard that if you eat a ton of pumpkins,

and the hunts for your brain yeah they're so cool like learning new stuff about things uh like pumpkins i heard that if you eat like a like a ton of pumpkins you get like sick but like good like like sweet good sick like you look sick yeah um i'm sitting jalen hurts because i read online that joe biden has jalen hurts on his fantasy team oh and he was like complaining about a stat correction in the middle of the night in Philadelphia. And we're Trump guys.
I read that online. Joe Biden's a body double.
Oh, wait. That's true.
Joe Biden's been dead for 20 years. Oh, shit.
That was a fake article that I read. But someone said it.
Someone said it. But, like, it makes sense when you think about it.
Like, losing points in the middle of the night in Philadelphia. Anyway.
Anyway. My sleeper this week.
So anyway. My sleeper, I didn't have a sleeper because you guys just told me at the last minute that we were doing Fantasy Billy football.
Actually, bro, you did. And I was on the way into work, and on the way into work, the train was delayed, so I didn't have internet.
No, I think a tree fell in front of the train. Well, there was a tree that was behind the train.
Right. But it almost hit the train.
Yeah. And then I got out and I was like, do you guys need any help moving the tree off the train my sleep well there was a tree that was behind the train right um but it almost hit the train yeah and then i got out and i was like do you guys need any help moving the train the tree off the train tracks and they're like thank you billy uh yes please help us yeah and so then i think they're gonna give me like an award but if you see a picture online of me moving a tree and my pants are falling off my butt during it it's just because i was bent over so far helping to move the tree nice it's not because i don't own a belt thank you for your service uh what's up guys uh hey billy hey what's up uh my stardom is uh fall fashion and high key like wearing construction boots uh all fall like it's actually like better than any other shoe because like it keeps your feet warm and if like a two by four falls on your feet you have like steel toed feet and then also like dudes think you like do construction i uh i sometimes like to wear my crocs underneath my steel toed boots yeah because then people are like oh dude that guy's feet are like size 17 yeah it also helps build the muscle in your cap way more than regular sneakers low key high key it does um my, it does.
My sit-em, Justin Fields, because he's a vegan, so he's a soy boy. That's why he sucks.
That's pretty much it right there. I've done a lot of research about veganism, and I played football, so Justin Fields stinks.
Also, playing on grass is good, but if you're a vegan and you're on grass, sometimes the animals and the bugs that are on that field, they climb up your legs and they bite you. And also the grass, because you're a vegan, you're like, oh, cool, a salad.
So you just start eating the grass. And then my sleeper is Jordan Poole.
He got punched by Draymond Green in practice. Is anyone thinking maybe Jordan Poole?aymond's kind of old like he's washed he probably doesn't even know what tiktok is so like it's sorry that like jordan pool is younger and probably should take his job uh it's kind of crazy it's kind of fucked up that he would do something like that so i stand with jordan pool like he's just a younger guy sorry that age like these guys are fucking getting old They're dinosaurs.
He's the next generation. Yeah.
And that rubsle. He's just a younger guy.
Sorry the age. These guys are fucking getting old.

They're dinosaurs.

He's the next generation.

And that rubs people.

Just because Draymond has a successful podcast that people like to listen to,

that doesn't mean necessarily that they won't like Jordan Poole more.

Right. He did.

I could do his podcast.

If Jordan Poole did Draymond Green's podcast,

I think the younger audience would be more into it. Right.
Right. All the bros.
Hey, what time are we recording today? Not yet. We haven't later, probably.
Right after dinner. What are we getting for dinner? Yeah.
Want to order food? Yeah. Do you have the card? Yeah.
My stardom's LeBron. He wants to own a team in Las Vegas.
Dude, I could entertain so many clients. Oh, hell yes, bro.
He will be partying. You should become a trainer on that team because, like, no joke, you, like, know a shitload about the human body.
Yeah. Mycidem is protested.
The guy who ran on the field on Monday Night Football, he filed a police report. Oh, pussy.
How about stay off the fucking field and there would be no police report to file? Yes. Facts.
At the same time, we need to respect the rule of law, though. Yeah.
And, like, yeah, I looked it up and, like, I read this one dude, he sued McDonald's when he spilled coffee on his dick. And so, like, you can get money out of that because it is technically against the

law because bobby wagner didn't have he's not like a law enforcement yeah yeah my sleeper is le'vion bell he's fighting an ex-ufc fighter later this month i low-key think i could take him yeah i mean you are a fighter bro wanna know yeah also he's like a running back and so running backs like They're not that tough.

Yeah.

No, that's a fact.

Yeah, 69.

Okay.

That was Fancy Billies. By the way, I love that Draymond Green was like, yeah, Jordan Poole.
The apology where he's like, I'm sorry this happened, but he kind of deserved it. That's how you apologize.
Yeah. What the Golden State Warriors say, they're like, we're going to evaluate whether or not we're going to suspend him.

That tells me it probably wasn't that bad.

Yeah, Jordan Poole was probably being a dick, and Draymond was like, this is my team.

Also, every team should have some sort of mini-camp or preseason fight.

I think it helps in the long term.

Yeah, it worked out for the Bulls when Bobby Portis broke Mirtich's eye.

The team went on to win big things.

Every team has a plan until they get punched in the face.

So that just means that they have,

they've got a plan.

Yeah.

They got a plan.

They got a plan.

Okay.

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That's rocketmoney.com slash take and now here is booger aka anthony mcfarland okay we now welcome on our very good friend who covers everything you can watch him on saturdays you can watch him on mondays you can see him everywhere it is booger mcfarland uh to talk a little football and also make fun of my weight which I already got my producer Hank who's like one of probably the person I trust most in my life besides like my immediate family uh coming at my weight so go ahead I I can't be hurt anymore I'm gonna make fun of your weight I'm just gonna ask you do you care about your health and your life like like let's just start there let's just go where the where i can take the needle and like push it in and turn it like let's go to your life and your health do you care about that i do i do i do um but it's football season so it's it's like priority number like six during football season you know how like linemen retire from the nfl and then they lose a lot of weight because they're not around football all the time? Yeah. That's like us, except for watching football.
I get it. Listen, there's nothing wrong with that.
I do really, really enjoy waking up Saturday morning and just being so jealous of how many donuts you eat. It's unreal.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you go, you look good because you go, you work at it, but I look good because no, I don't look good.. So, yeah, that's fine.
All right, you'll sprinkle it in. Let's talk some football, though.
Let's do it. Let's talk some football.
Yeah. Let's start with college.
Let's start with college. Let's start here.
LSU, Tennessee, I want your thoughts on how Brian Kelly's doing in his first year, what you see out of this team. And, you know, know this is going to be a great game I'm very we're all very excited for it on Saturday but what would you grade Brian Kelly through five weeks six weeks of the season and so far I give him a B plus just because I think when you take over a program that had 39 scholarship players in the bowl game against Kansas State and they may as well have had you be a big cat playing quarterback.
Cause I mean, they took a wide receiver and put him in quarterback and for Brian Kelly to take that team, have to go out in the transfer portal, have to recruit to be able to put 85 scholarship guys. I think he's done a remarkable job.
Now I will criticize him because I don't think the team was prepared for the opener against Florida state. And I think he admitted that.
So I can't give him an A, but for where this program has come from, from that bowl game until now, I think he's done a pretty solid job. But here's the thing.
When you're the coach at LSU, solid isn't good enough. Like the last three guys down there have won natties.
Like Les Miles, Nick Saban, and even Ed O won a natty. So everybody down there is expected to win a national championship.
So sorry, Brian Kelly, we gave you a hundred million solid. It's not good enough.
Yeah. So what is the expectation for this year? This year? Now, obviously I think I'd be remiss if I said, Hey, let's do a national championship this year.
I don't think that's the expectation, but I mean, anything short of eight, nine wins, I think is going to be a real, real disappointment. And anything short of a national championship within three to five years is going to be an extreme disappointment.
So this week you're playing Tennessee, you're hosting Tennessee down in Death Valley. It's an early start.
The real Death Valley, by the way, because, you know, some Clemson fans have been kind of going back and forth and I get the history. I understand the history.
But let's face it. There's only one Death Valley, and that's the one in Baton Rouge.
I agree with that. It's stolen valor if you say that it's in South Carolina.
It's not. It's in Louisiana.
And the Tennessee Volunteers are going in there. Tennessee's a good program.
I love Hindenhooker. I love that team.
It seems like this is the year where every Tennessee fan is thinking to themselves in the back of their head, we might be able to beat Bama. They're thinking about that already.
They won't say it out loud, but they're thinking it. This is a tough game for them.
I love your DEFCON tweets on College Football Saturday when you put people on DEFCON notice. What notice of DEFCON should Tennessee be at to come down into the swamp? Well, here's the thing is that they're getting off a little easy because the game is not at night.
The game is at 11 a.m., so you're basically going to have donuts, bagels, ham and eggs, and then go play a game. Like, the game's at 11 a.m.
Central. So they're getting off easy.
However, here's what I will say. I do think that I would put the DEFCON status right now at 3 because it's going to be a sold out Tiger Stadium.
It's going to be 102,000 Cajuns full on eggs and liquor. Something I'm sure Big Cat is used to.
Big Cat doesn't drink. No doubt.
I wish I did drink so I could then lose weight by not drinking. We're like a Jat Spratt podcast where he eats the food and I drink the booze.
I got you. And I'm just glad that you're sober for this podcast, by the way, BFT.
Congrats on that. Yeah, I never said that.
I never said that. Well, I mean, you look sober or you appear sober to me.
Thank you. Sober presenting.
Hendon Hooker's been outstanding. And if I'm a Tennessee fan, here's what I'll say.
I didn't realize this until I until I started doing some research. Like, Hendon Hooker is, like, 23, 24 years old.
So he is way mature beyond the age of some of these kids that are going to be out there. LSU is going to start six freshmen, like six 17-, 18-year-old guys.
And so I do think the maturity of Hendon Hooker, the offense of Josh Heupel, I understand why Tennessee is a favorite. I understand why people – I mean, I got Peyton Manning texting me all of a sudden wanting to get a bet.
I hadn't heard from him about Tennessee football in years, but all of a sudden he's coming out of the woodwork. So it's going to be a fun atmosphere.
They deserve to be the favorite. But as my old coach used to say a long time ago, it's a poor dog that won't fight in his own backyard.
And they're coming to the roof. So wait, wait, what does Peyton want to bet you well i mean i'm not going to disclose the bet but there is a small monetary uh wager on the game i like it i like it so um other college football question i had for you uh who's who's good right now because you've seen it georgia's struggled a little uh you know clemson looks like they're back a little Ohio State's rolling through the Big Ten like they always do but you know I think this going into this season we all said there's like three or four teams that are better than everyone else they're juggernauts do you think that still stands true or have you seen things from those juggernauts where you're like okay they could be had they this isn't going to be as easy as they thought it would be.
Yeah, I think based on what happened in Columbia, Missouri the other night with George almost getting knocked off, you can see where on any given Saturday, man, these 17 to 21-year-olds normally outside of Hendon Hooker, you can see where these guys could possibly slip up. But in the end, I think talent always prevails.

And in college football, there's four or five programs that are more talented than the rest. You look at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, like those programs are more talented than the rest.
Now, here's what I'll say. There are some coaches that are more talented than others.
You look at Lincoln, Raleigh, USC. So even though USC is not as talented as the first four, because of Lincoln, Raleigh, they have the ability on a given Saturday or whenever the game is played to play with those other programs.
However, I do agree with the sentiment that we came into this college football season with, and that is that they're the haves and the have-nots. And Lincoln gives USC an opportunity to play a little bit above.
But other than that, man, it's those first four that I mentioned. Yeah.
So the other question I had was my alma mater, Wisconsin, just fired their head coach. Why? Why did they do that, by the way? Because, I mean, this is the worst Wisconsin team in 25 years, and it's going in the wrong direction.
Oh, okay. But the expectations, though? You guys act as if the expectations are a natty.
No, they're not. No, the expectations are very clear.
You have to win your non-conference games at home. You have to beat Illinois.
You have to be competitive against Ohio State. Not beat them, but be competitive.
You have to win eight or nine games. They weren't going to win eight or nine games if they didn't make a change this year.
That's just a fact.

Like, they were in the wrong direction.

My question, though, is, and we see it all the time in college football.

I had Georgia Tech last week because they fired their head coach.

You never had a head coach fired midseason,

but you obviously talked to everyone in college football and in the NFL.

What does that do for a locker room, and do you believe in, like, the bump up get rid of a coach and you have like a new guy, new fresh tactics, you know, new voice in the room? What does that do for these guys? Well, I think it puts everybody on notice, right? Just think about it. The boss comes in and fires three or four people at barstool.
You guys are going to have to, you know, show up to work on time and not come in hungover. Like you're going going to have to actually start doing things the right way.
It's no different in a locker room. Like, when a coach gets fired, everybody gets put on notice.
So all the players are now sitting up a little bit straighter. We're going to be on the details a little bit more.
That's why you often see a bump up in emotion, a bump up in preparedness, a bump up in details. When a coach gets fired, think about Nebraska.
Nebraska fired Scott Frost. They lose their first game, but they win last week.
Like, who would have thought? You look at Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech beat Pittsburgh after they fired Jeff Collins.
Why? Because there's an attention to detail that happens. Now, is that sustainable? I don't know, because eventually football is not played with emotion.
Football is played with talented people giving maximum effort for a sustained period of time. So, yeah, it puts the locker room on notice, but eventually you're going to have to have the right dudes out there playing.
And I think at Wisconsin, let's face it, I don't know about you, but I think they want Jim Leonard to be the coach, at least that's the feeling I get. Now, can Jim recruit and get the right players? Jim is a little younger.
Maybe he can be a little bit more innovative. I think that's the road.
If I'm a Wisconsin alum, I hope they go down, and I hope Jim can get it done. Yeah, no, and that is also part of the decision, I think, because the schedule is not that hard.
It's big 10 west and you're basically saying if jim leonard can write the ship here a little bit and win whatever five out of the last seven then he can prove that you know it's instead of waiting a whole year and then hiring jim leonard let's see if he can do it right now and then he's off and running and ready to go with scholarships and all that stuff and recruiting yeah i, I completely agree. By the way, I'm going to step away because I'm going to send you guys something.
So I'm going to send you guys this. This is a booger bobblehead.
Ooh. Because – Yeah.
You look fat. Like I still have hair because I see you guys have bobbleheads in the background.
So I'm going to make sure that I send you guys a bobblehead. I want mine on PFT side though.
I don't want it on big cat So I want to be standing there. Yeah, because you're scared you wouldn't be able to tackle Ron Dane.
That's why. Well, I look better than Ron Dane.
But I want mine on this side of the studio. That's true.
You know, of the studio. Booger, I don't know if you can dictate our decoration as a set up here.
Does it have Booger on it? Okay, if you're asking politely, I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal.
How about this? Last time we had you on the show, I think we gave you a little fastest two minutes boomerism to put in Chris Berman's ear, and he ended up using it. The Jalen Hurts So Good thing.
Correct. Since that time, we have interviewed Boomer, and he's everything that we thought he'd be.
He's the man. Yeah.
We love Chris Berman even more after we've met him. I had one that maybe you could put in his ear for whenever Kenny Pickett plays against, like, Russell Wilson or Zach Wilson.
Okay. I think we used this last week on our Fastest Two Minutes that we do.
Just tell him, like, Wilson Pickett. Wait till the midnight hour.
You know, Boomer will love that. Mustang Sally.
Yeah, I got you. Like, Mustang Sally, wait till the midnight hour.
I feel like Chris would get there eventually on his own, but maybe if you just kind of like nudge him in that direction, I think he'd really enjoy that. Consider it done, gentlemen.
And after we get done, if you'll send me the address, I'll send you the Booger bobblehead. All right, does it have a booger on it? Does your booger bobblehead? No, it doesn't have, no, it has my real name, which nobody calls me that anymore, but I think it'll be cool.
It'll be a cool addition if you'll have me in your studio. Okay, Anthony.
Yeah, no problem. Big Ant.
It sounds weird just saying that. Exactly.
Yeah, I like Booger better. So I've enjoyed you on ESPN this year.
You've been doing a lot of NFL stuff as well. Robert Griffin has been all over the place.
RG3, he raced a bird before Monday Night Football. And I'm just curious, like how has it been to work with him? Is he going to like be down on the field trying to get a TikTok with Jackson Mahomes against the Chiefs this week? Or what's his angle going to be? You know, it's been really cool because like I'm 45 years old and rg3 is um rg3 is a lot younger almost a decade younger than me and so for for me to kind of still work with a guy who just got out of the league he's trying to be here like he's in the social media he's in all these different things and so like he he's still trying to be a part of that culture but what i tell him all the time is this.
I say, hey, big guy, remember, you're on the desk now. You're no longer playing, so you can stop racing birds.
You can stop running hurdles and trying to run 40-yard dashes. You are officially a has-been.
He gets so hot, and we have some fun with that. But he's been really cool.
It's been cool to get to know him. He is definitely um a welcome addition to our set a lot of energy but I feel like I'm surrounded by quarterbacks like the other day we were in in San Francisco and I got RG3 I got Alex Smith I got Steve Young I'm like do we need any more quarterbacks on this set right yeah no it is true it's very quarterback heavy I mean quarterbacks always play they're uh at all times.
So who do you want? Like, what's a lineman that you would want to work with? A lineman? Wow. I haven't thought about that.
I work with some good ones already with Spears and Jeff Saturday, Damian Woody. Like, linemen are really hard to come by.
there's some cool ones on Twitter you follow like Jeff Schwartz is a really good friend of mine like he's a real

he's a real uh he's he's a he's a Pac-12 guy he went to Oregon so I hold that against him but he's a good friend of mine um uh Mitchell Swartz his brother like like the Swartz family is kind of even though I don't know Mitchell that well like I I follow them and like what they do so those are a couple that just come to mind off the top of my head okay so sticking with lineman talk I have a game this weekend that I can't figure out okay it's the Cowboys and the Rams the Rams obviously in the NFL you always want to take the team that's looked you know the team that looks bad you take them versus the team that's looked great in the Cowboys but my question to you is the Rams offensive line is a disaster right now. Matthew Stafford was running for his life on Monday Night Football.
The Dallas defense is elite. Micah Parsons might be the best defensive player in the league right now.
How do you scheme up when you know you have that big of a mismatch? If you're Sean McVay, how do you scheme up to beat a defensive line? And can you even do it when it's that big of a mismatch on paper? Well, I think there are two ways. First of all, you have to give the offensive line a break sometime.
Here's what I mean. Don't ask them to block.
Like run screens, do things where they can kind of take a mental play off. And then at some point, you've got to walk in that offensive line room and say, hey, guys, I'm going to close the door and say, hey, guys, hey, I need you guys to drop your balls, all right? At some point, all you guys are getting paid.
All you guys are making money. Drop your balls and man up because at some point we're all adults in here, okay? I'm not going to ask you to block Michael Parsons 55 times, but there's probably eight to ten times in the game you're going to have to knock if you buck and block him, okay? DeMarcus Lawrence, hey't if you don't block him, Matthew Stafford, other elbow is going to hurt.

And so I think you have to come up with a game plan where you give the guys confidence.

You help them out. Maybe you chip.
Maybe you protect.

And then at the end of the day, here's the deal. You and I watched the game the other night.

And every time Matthew Stafford dropped back, if we were to play a drinking game, Hey,

he's throwing the Cooper cup. We would be drunk in the first quarter.

Like they throw the Cooper cup every play.

So how about find somebody else to throw to and get other people involved?

Because here's what happened.

Imagine if you guys did a show where only big cat talk,

like PFT will become uninterested. He would do, he would be on the phone.

Like you got to get other guys involved, man. That's true.
And so my other question with the Rams and especially the 49ers, it feels like Kyle Shanahan has Sean McVay's number. Was there ever a team that you thought going into the game, like, unfortunately, this other coach kind of has our coach's number? And what does that do mentally for your team? Because I would imagine you talk to guys who are on the Patriots where they're always like, hey, Belichick will always put us in the best place.
At some point, you've got to be like, hey, is this game plan working? Why can't we – you know, they beat them in the NFC Championship game, but why can't this work more often? We're just as good as them. What's happening here scheme-wise or coaching-wise that we're not in the best position when we play this specific team? Yeah, for us, it was the Philadelphia Eagles and Tampa, man, because, you know, it was that whole deal.
We couldn't play when the temperature was below 40 degrees, and we always had to go up there, and we always had to play them. And mentally, it just sits on you, man, because you know that, hey, on Monday, you know, hey, coach walks in and tells us, hey, guys, here's the game time temperature.
It's going to be 32 degrees. So let's get in your mind.
It's going to be cold. Here's the guy we got to stop.
Donovan McNabb. Here's the players, Brian Westbrook, like all the things that we knew early in the week.
And it was just a matter. We had to go up there and do it.
They had that old turf. Like this was before they opened Lincoln, Lincoln financial field.
It was the real turf, like the outdoor carpet and then right underneath it was concrete. Like that's what we played on.
And so we had to eventually get over that hump. And there's always a little doubt in your mind because the longer it goes, the shoe can't beat them.
Like human nature says, are we ever going to? And for us, it was pretty much the same way. Like we lost a feeling four or five times in a row.
And then we went up there. The year we won the Super Bowl, it was 32 degrees.
I'll never forget. Warren Sapp leaves the locker room for like his pregame ritual.
And he didn't have a shirt on. And I'm looking at him like, man, what is he about to do? So he runs out in the vet.
It's 32 degrees. The sun's out.
I mean, it's freezing. And he runs around the field with no shirt on.
Now, he doesn't have a six-pack. He's kind of built like you, big cat.
And so, A, I don't know what kind of statement that made from a fashion or a physical sense, but just from a mental standpoint, I think that got him to a point where he said, okay, I'm over the cold weather. Now it's just about going out and playing.
And I think they gave us a little confidence, some kind of weird way. And we went on to beat them and we won the Super Bowl the next week.
So you got to get over that hump mentally, man. It's really mental because you know, you can do it physically.
It's really, really all mental. Yeah.
That's interesting. Did you after did you ever uh have any teammates that would be like don't wear long sleeves don't wear gloves don't let them see you that looks weak yeah derrick brooks my rookie year we we play chicago in chicago and he tells me he said hey on defense we don't wear sleeves now the temperature is about 10 winds blowing he said hey we don't wear sleeves uh well i didn't know the old secret that when you don't wear sleeves, you got to wear sleeves.
Now the temperature is about 10, wind's blowing. He said, hey, we don't wear sleeves.
Well, I didn't know the old secret that when you don't wear sleeves, you got to put this stuff called Tiger Balm on. It's Tiger Balm slash Vaseline.
It basically closes up your pores. And if you notice when anybody plays in the cold weather, here's a little tip.
Watch their arms. Their arms are always going to be glistening and shining anytime the weather's cold well they got this stuff called tiger balm on and it basically kind of closes your pores up where you don't feel the cold weather as much well i didn't know that so derrick brooks had it on but i didn't and so i'm down in my stance in chicago um and and i put my hand down and all all I have on is my pants.

Underneath, I have a jockstrap.

So as I bend down, the wind comes screaming through those pants,

and it felt like it went right up my butt all the way out my nose.

And when I tell you it's the coldest I've ever been in my life, I had literally shield bumps on my arms, man.

But the next time, I learned about the Tiger Bomb, and I you know, drinking just a little shot of whiskey before the game to hell with the chicken broth. Just get you a little shot of whiskey, kind of warm you up also.
I like that. Yeah, that's, that's, that's interesting.
So wait, but you also probably could have just worn underwear and that would have stopped some of the wind from going up your butt. Yeah.
But here's the problem. Like when you're as athletic as I am, you want to feel loose.
Like, I don't want to feel like I'm restricted by having underwear. Like, I'm not a big underwear guy anyway.
So when we see on TV, are you going commando? No, it's tough to go commando when you're wearing suits, you know, because I don't want the fabric, you know, rubbing in the wrong place. I don't want shape.
I can't put Boudreaux's butt. I can't can't put all that stuff in my nice suits however when i'm just walking around like on a normal day and i got shorts and a t-shirt on yeah it's it's it's free willy who was it was mark to share right whenever he's on tv he wears just a jock strap yeah and that's it he's kind of a weirdo though yeah that's really weird a jock strap with a suit yeah mark he's a he's a baseball guy you know they get superstitious he probably went like three for four one time and he was just wearing A jockstrap with a suit? Yeah, Mark, he's a baseball guy.
You know, they get superstitious. He probably went like three for four one time, and he was just wearing a jockstrap.
So he's like, every day for the rest of my life, that's all I'm going to wear is a jockstrap. Yeah, that can't be comfortable, man.
Because the thing about the jockstrap, if the jockstrap is the wrong size, then you'll start to be cut in certain areas. Like, it's so important to get the jockstrap the right size.
Here's the problem. If you get the jockstrap the right size to fit your waist and your thighs, it may not fit the area in which you should be most proud of.
And so it's a weird combination for dudes getting the jockstrap the right size. As a white guy, I don't think I've ever had that problem.
No, no. That is not on my checklist before I leave the house.
Patrick Mahomes, best quarterback in the NFL. If you're a defensive player and you're playing Patrick Mahomes, is that just the most demoralizing thing? Because it feels like no matter how you defend him and you could have him sacked or you could play perfect defense, he finds a way to get it done.
Is there, is it one of those things that you just got to hope that he doesn't burn you for 30 and you're, you're going into the game being like, Hey, if we can keep it at 24, we might have a chance. Because I'd have to imagine playing against like a guy like that, who's playing at this high of a level has to fuck with you a little bit when you get on the field.
Yeah, he's phenomenal, man. And he takes advantage of, A, his supreme talent, and, B, he also takes advantage of a lot of mistakes that defenses make.
I'll give you a prime example. Let's go back to that play Sunday night in Tampa where he throws a little jump pass to Clyde Edwards-Hillard.
Where he never gets an opportunity to make that pass if the defensive end just takes the proper angle and gets upfield, don't let him outside. And so Mahomes takes advantage of a guy, I forget his name, number 79.
He probably shouldn't be playing defensive end. I think it was, what, Connor, Pat Connor, whoever it was, took a terrible angle, let him outside, and now the magic of Mahomes can take place.
Well, guess what? Keep him in the pocket. You can't do that.
So it's a combination of a lot of things. He is probably in the conversation for the most gifted quarterback of all time.
I think Aaron Rodgers is the most talented. I think Tom Brady is the greatest.
But all those guys are living in the same neighborhood that if you give them any ounce of hope and give them a little crack, they will make you pay. And he's phenomenal, man.
All right, so off that, because it's a great point, I mean, we know football game of inches, but like how you take your angles. How hard is it if you're a defensive lineman or a linebacker knowing for 70 plays you have to play this exact angle and you can't, like it when you're out there and you see like oh I might be able to get them right here but I'd have to leave my assignment it like that mental part of the game is that just the most difficult part where you like I have to do the same thing and I can't deviate even if I think I have a play because if I think I have a play he'll burn me and throw a touchdown like that yeah that's a great point by you but first of all that's might be the first one on this podcast great point thank you thank you here's the thing I'll say um it's not hard on play one because you're fresh you're pumped up the crowds into it it may not be hard on play 10 but when you get to like play 30 and you're a little tired and you're starting to see like two or three mahomes back there because you because you're out of breath then it becomes critical because most people when they get fatigued and when they get tired they become mentally weak they give in oh i can't get it i'll do something else i'm gonna go with it's like the guy from uh i know we've all seen the clip of the Denver Bronco guy chasing the Raider guy.
The big ball. Yeah, just dove and he had no chance.
Well, guess what? Big guy. How about run faster? You won't have to die.
OK, and he just dove and gave me like hell. Screw it.
I'm done. And so what happens is there's a defensive lineman.
You have to make sure that you're rotating in and you're fresh.

That way you can not only be sharp physically,

but you've got to be sharp mentally, man.

Like we have a saying, or we had a saying in my defensive line room,

like when you get tired, shit creeps in, okay?

When you get tired, like shit starts to creep in.

I mean, you start seeing things and imagining things

that you shouldn't be doing. And it happens to to everyone it happens to even like the greatest players and you have to fight against that and you do it with conditioning in the offseason and you're also doing it do it when you get an opportunity in the game like you got to sub out like get somebody fresh in to chase this dude around for 60 or 70 plays man yeah who do you think is the best defensive lineman in the game? And let's just pretend hypothetically for this situation, T.J.
Watt is healthy. And Aaron Donald is, oh, oh, you're saying healthy.
Okay, he's healthy. Here's what I'll say.
I think Aaron Donald is the best player in football that's not a quarterback. Quarterbacks are always going to get the notch above because they touch the ball every play.

He's the best non-quarterback in the NFL. I think there are some guys that are right there a quarter step below him.
Miles Garrett, TJ Watt, Michael Parsons, Nick Bosa has been playing phenomenal. I don't know if you guys have been watching him.
He's outstanding. Who am I missing up front? Like, those are the guys that consistently do it and do it at a high freaking level man and there's some other guys who can kind of flip the switch and give you a game or two where you're like man hey von miller man game one whoo still got it yeah von hadn't been the same since game one like it's like it's like there are some guys that can give it to you, but the guys that give it to you every single week,

T.J. Wiles, been the same since game one like it's like it's like there are some guys that can give it to you but the guys that give it to you every single week tj walk miles garrett uh aaron donnell michael parsons nick bosa like those are the guys that man i just watch them like i don't even really

watch the ball sometimes when you at the end of your career were you because you you mentioned

von miller and that's a good point like he has these flashes we're like oh that's old von miller but then he could maybe disappear for a game because he's older would you did you notice at the end of your career like oh i'm i'm going as hard as i can i'm trying to do everything i used to do but it just isn't that same explosiveness isn't exactly there and that's the difference between what I was five years ago versus what I am today. You notice that and all the good players or really any player notices this, is that you watch the tape and you just watch practice and you see yourself moving and you're like, wait, who is that? And you're like, oh, shit, that's me.
And it kind of shocks you for a minute. And you can kind of do some things to kind of beat the system a little bit because you are a veteran and you understand what the play is going to be based on formation, like tendencies and all those good things.
However, at the end of the day, man, most players are honest with themselves. Like, you know when your fastball is gone.
Because guys, it would be like me lining up against you, Big Cat, and like, man, Big Cat blocked the hell out of you today. Like, there's no way if I'm in the right frame of mind and you're in the right frame of mind that you can block me.
So if I ever showed up at work one day and I turned the practice tape and you were blocking me, I would literally get up,

walk down to the GM's office, and retire at that point.

You turn in your own badge and your own gun, it's like, I know I don't have it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's always fascinating to me, the end of careers,

where it's like you know these guys know exactly what to do,

and they can get by a little bit on veteran savvy,

but that one little piece of explosiveness is not there, and that's the difference of what they were and what they are. Well, that's why quarterbacks can play so long.
As long as a quarterback physically doesn't have any crazy stuff going on, because their game is so much mental and decision-making, and that rarely goes away until you get much older. And so people look at Tom Brady, and he's 45 years old, and he's still playing at a high level.
It's because he hadn't really had a ton of injuries physically. I think the ACL was really the only major one.
Other than that, he can still process and make great decisions at a high level. So quarterbacks can do it for a long time because they know what the game is going to be before the game is ever played.
Whereas a position like mine, man, like it's physical. Like it is mortal combat for 60 plays every Wednesday and Thursday, or it used to be, and they don't change the rules now.
But you know, every Sunday it's mortal combat, man. Like you got to go hit some dudes in the mouth and bang heads for two and a half, three hours and hope you win and then come back and do it again.
And oh, by the way, the NFL wants to add another game and then we're going to add another game. So now we're going to be at 18 games in a couple of years and it's tough, man.
Yeah. I have one last question for you.
Next Thursday night, so we're going to air this tomorrow. So Thursday night football have already been played.
Broncos, the Colts. Next Thursday night, we've got a matchup that I think America is just clamoring to see, uh, should be an offensive explosion to fantastic franchises with high hopes for their future.
The Washington commanders at the Chicago bears. So those are my and big cats teams.
We have a love hate relationship with our own franchises. We, I think we're more realistic about our franchises than most people are about theirs.
Like we understand exactly who we. We're a couple losers, and we root for a couple loser franchises.
And that's okay. So can you just give us, which team do you think is less depressing? The Commanders or the Bears? And that's going to be my pick for next Thursday night.
Which team is less depressing? So which one puts me in a mood where I just feel like I don't even watch football? Yeah, which team would you rather watch? And if you were to become a fan of one of these two franchises, gun to your head, what do you choose? I'm choosing the Bears because if I'm a fan of the Bears, that means I'm going to go watch them play a couple times. And Chicago's a really good food city.
And so, therefore, for me, I'm going to go in, even if they play terrible and the offensive line stinks and Justin feels can't hit the side of a barn, I'm going to have a hell of a meal at some point. Chicago cut.
Okay. Hey, Chicago cut is awesome.
Okay. It's going to be a great place to go eat.
And you know what? I'm going to still enjoy it. So yeah, I would choose the, and I would tread lightly.
But by the way, all seriousness with this, if the Bears don't fix their offensive line, Justin Fields is headed toward being the second coming of – what's the Carr kid that was in Houston? David Carr. David Carr, yeah.
I forget the Carr brothers. They both look alike.
David Carr. That's racist.
Yeah, no, it is. That's not racist.
What do you mean they look alike? We all look alike. Yeah, yeah.
No, that's fine. All right, my last question.
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My last question is similar to that, where the Lions, let's talk about the Lions real quick. Offense has been incredible.
Defense has been garbage. What does the locker room look like when one side of the ball is just completely the reason for the losses and the reason for everyone saying, like, this isn't working.
You going out there every week we're busting our ass we're doing our job and you guys can't hold up your end of the bargain i think there are two things at play one do you see the guys putting the effort so if i'm an offensive guy do i see the defense extra meeting do i see the defense lifting weights paying attention to detail are they getting in early? Are they staying late? Are they doing all the little detailed things to try and get better? If they're doing that, then I'll cut them a little grace. Like, I'll give them a little bit of leeway.
But if they're not doing that, like, if the defense is showing up and it's like, you know, they're kind of half-assing it and grab-assing it throughout the day, and as soon as practice is over, guys are taking a shower, peeled and headed home. Then, yeah, it's going to be some confrontations at some point.
Because. Yeah.
Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
Well, it's going to be a confrontation because, like, they got the number one offense in football. But their defense is giving up 35 points a game.
And that's hard to do. Like, it's hard to be so extreme on either side of the ball and um it can become a heavy burden in the locker room because here's what'll happen like we'll be talking about something totally unrelated to football we'll be playing dominoes and somebody will make a comment and somebody will get mad and be like hey maybe you should try doing that on the field on Sunday.
And then now it just blows up and now everybody starts going back and forth. So it's always in the back of our minds.
Like we always know, hey, we're playing well and those guys are playing shitty. But it never comes out until the emotion boils over.
And when it does, hopefully at that point the coach has a good enough control of his team, he can discuss it. But if I were the wouldn't hide from it like I would come into the meeting and be like hey guys offensively we're playing really well not what we want to be defense hey you guys got to pick it up so don't be afraid to look at the elephant in the room and talk directly to it and I think then it kind of takes some of the I don't know some of the tension away yeah you to get ahead of it.
Yeah. You got to accept the fact that the numbers are what they are.
You mentioned, you mentioned like lifting weights during the season. Does that, does that actually help in your experience? Like what if somebody just decided to stop lifting weights? Don't you get enough like resistance training, playing and practicing in the games? No, because here's the thing about the, like the the playing and practicing the game, like, that's conditioning and you get some ancillary strength.
But, like, you have to train your body, man. Like, those muscles need to be trained.
Those muscles need to be – now, obviously, we're not maxing out. And for – just be careful.
Maxing out means you put the maximum amount of weight. I got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if you we're not maxing out but you have to train continue to train your body so you can be at peak performance you know it's kind of like driving a car and you say you know what i'm not getting an oil change for a year it's probably not gonna be a good thing like like you gotta continue to take care of the car for it to perform at a high level and the body's no different like we got to go in and train it so um if a guy's not now saying that most quarterbacks don't lift a ton of weight like they're only like brady's got all these guys on these resistance bands and stretching and okay whatever but for a guy like me like i got to move some weight during the season because i i can't go from being able to squat four four or five hundred pounds and all of a sudden by the end of the season I can only do like 350.
Well guess what I'm gonna start to get pushed around. Right we have the same policy here our quarterback Billy he doesn't lift weight either and that's just kind of a regiment that we've had him on for quite some time.
Yes yes all right my last last question I'm sorry I should have brought this up earlier A big theme of this football season because Hank, our producer, has had to finally, first time in his football-watching life, had to come to the grips with, is the quarterback that you have on your team the guy? Does that conversation happen in a locker room? Is this the guy? Do people know? Do they talk to each other like, hey, the guy we the guy we got here he's not the guy like he you know every now and then he can do some nice things but let's be honest with ourselves he's not the guy you know like it's one of those unwritten or unwritten rules where nobody's going to come out and say it but I think everybody knows like like you know when you got a guy like even as a rookie you you can OK, man, he's making some mistakes right now. But he'll every now and then make that one throw at one read at one special play.
You're like, OK, I see it. It's kind of like with Mahomes, like Mahomes only played one game his rookie year.
But the stories of excuse me of what he did at practice every day is legendary. And those stories let everyone know this dude is going to be like that dude like he's going to be yeah a great freaking quarterback and I remember watching a guy like um I'm sure you guys have had him like Chris Sims like Chris Sims was our quarterback in Tampa at one point and we knew watching Chris Chris was smart Chris knew where to go with the football he was a little scared of John Gruden but most most quarterbacks were but you knew Chris was always going to do his best and put us in a position to win now he wasn't going to be spectacular but you knew you could count on Chris to do his job so you know the levels of what these guys can be and conversely when you get a guy like Peyton Manning like like when I walked in the locker room in Indy, it's like the aura of Peyton Manning, like how he carried himself, how people approached him, like how revered he was.
It's a different feeling when you got that dude. Like it's a totally different feeling from a confidence standpoint, from how we approach our work day to day.
But the players know. Like you know what you have from day one.
It's just a matter of whether that guy's going to develop or not i like it because i mean i think that's kind of where we land like even if you have to ask if a guy is a guy he's probably not exactly like that's you you kind of know you just know or you don't it's he's the guy and you know within the first you know 20 starts i'd say oh but you know the first 20 practices, like you don't have to see it.

Like you want to see it on the field to kind of confirm, but man,

it's just the way these dudes carry themselves and how they act at practice

and how they're focused.

Because that position, unlike any other,

it's not about how big and tough you are and how fast you run.

Like it's not about that.

That position is about do I have a dude that's going to approach this job

as a profession?

He's going to make great decisions.

They're going to approach this job as a as a profession he's going to make great decisions that's why to me and and i'm not trying to stereotype anybody but i like when my quarterback shows up to the podium with a nice suit on got a nice brief uh backpack like he's coming to work like this is business like i'm approaching this like i I'm the CEO of a company because think about it.

If these teams are worth four or $5 billion,

what did Broncos sell for? Like 4.6 billion.

And you're the quarterback. Isn't Russell Wilson, he may not be the CEO, but isn't he like the CEO? Like he's, he's up there.

Like you're the quarterback. You're up there.

So you got to put your job that way, man. Yeah.

Yes. Who's the most recent guy to get anointed? It's Jalen hurts.
the guy it's close i'm not ready to anoint him just yet through four games but if he continues to play this way he'll get 250 million dollars when the season is over and he will be um it'll be a great story because i i'll be the first to admit publicly uh even though everybody yeah i knew jalen was gonnaalen was going to – I had my doubts, man. Like, if you go back to the game they played against Tampa in the playoffs last year, he looked bad.
Like, he looked so bad. Well, the improvement he's made from game one to where he is now has been outstanding.
I give him credit. And if he continues playing at the current level, he will be a $250 million in the franchise quarterback and that'll give philadelphia a lot of flexibility because of the draft capital that they have coming up yeah i think in my mind the most recent person to become a guy was joe burrow i'm trying to think if there's anybody that's become that's developed into a guy like at the end of last season so far this season but when he's getting close but joe

like joe burrow left lsu as the number one pick like did you ever think he was not gonna be the

guy i think every every year one like every rookie that comes in you you wonder there are moments

where you're like i don't know is this is this guy the guy or is he just a dude yeah it happens

it happens yeah i think i think jaylen has taken step. Tua, hopefully he comes back and is able to play this year.
He's a little behind, but he can still finish the season out and maybe take that step. Lamar obviously is on a different level right now.
Yeah, Collar has gotten paid like he's taken that step, but I think some of us doubt that he has. Yeah, he's a good case of, like, the guy test.
Because you're like, I think it is, but there's also times you're like, I don't know if that is. For Collar, it depends on if the iPad is working that week.
Like, if the iPad is working, he's in good shape.

Yes.

Yeah, you never – I'll put it this way.

You would never put a clause in a guy's contract.

Correct.

That they have to watch film four hours a week.

You would put it in a guy's contract that they have to, like,

spend time with their family for a couple hours, like Tom Brady.

Like, you got to – The other way around.

Yeah, you got to take a break from football.

We want you to be balanced.

Maybe – hey, Tom, would it be okay if maybe you tried playing some Call

of Duty occasionally during the week just to get

your mind off football? That's a guy's contract.

All right. Well,

Booger, thank you as always. We love

having you on. Send that bobblehead.
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I said, you see him on Monday. He's all over the place.

Thank you, man. We really appreciate it.
Hey, man, anytime, man, you guys just let me know when you want me on. Okay.
Before we get to fire fest, we actually have a quick documentary review. So Netflix has a new documentary out today.
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You got Kobe, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo, LeBron. Coach K.
They had everything to lose. We'll get to that.
Who is the GOAT U.S. basketball team? We're going to talk about that, whether the Redeem team was better than the Dream team.
Watch the Redeem team October 7th, only on Netflix. So we got to watch it.
We got to do – always feel special when you get a pre-release viewing. And they have the watermarks, which just makes me want to put out a picture with the watermark.
It makes you feel so cool when you're watching that. But this was an awesome documentary.
If you are a basketball fan, just the fact that you you have interviews with kobe and behind the scenes stuff with kobe was cool and it's just it's crazy too it was like a time capsule because you got to see lebron before he won anything you got to see like mellow you know the greatest olympian of all time all these guys c booze was in there carlos boozer i i'd like to say i had completely forgotten about one of my favorite Olympians of all time, one of my favorite basketball players of all time, Tayshaun Prince. Yes, Tayshaun Prince.
Him and Deron Williams. It's like you forget how good they were.
And Michael Redd. For that time.
Michael Redd was a beast. Michael Redd was nice.
Like Tayshaun Prince, the purpose that he served on that team was basically like, okay, we've got a bunch of superstars, but this guy, this guy has beaten all of you in the NBA on a team filled with not superstars. And in a way he was like the defensive leader of it.
Yeah. So it's, it's a very cool documentary.
It goes through the entire history of like USA basketball. David, I love David Stern, like flexing on everyone being like, yeah, we're sending our pros in the early nineties for marketing.
Yeah. For marketing.
It's like, no, we're just going to dominate, which obviously obviously everyone remembers the dream team i would say the dream team was the greatest basketball team of all time yeah but uh and it's not even close yeah well yeah probably probably not close but this team was very very good the dream team i disagree the dream team did not use a timeout yeah the entire tournament yeah i mean i i definitely think it's the dream team but i'm just saying this team was fucking stacked and And it is very cool. They were in a five-point game in the gold medal game.
Well, the world had caught up. That was the whole premise behind the documentary.
The league had caught up. That quote from the Argentinian player after they won the gold in 2004, I want to say, in Athens, when he's like, it's not a one-on-one game.
Like, it's a team game. And you're like, oh, yeah, I remember how they just basically did pick and rolls and beat the fuck out of us.
Yeah, for a while, I think USA Basketball's strategy was, we're going to get guys that are sick at dunking. Right.
And then we'll have one guy that's like a .350 three-point shooter from beyond the arc. So then in this, they put together a concerted effort to make a comeback to build an actual team of basketball players, not just athletes.
And surprise, we're still the Kings. Yeah.
I think my favorite part was when it was after they lost in 2004, and they were like, who's going to coach this team? What are we going to do? And they asked Dean Smith, Colangelo did, and he said there's only one coach that can do this. Yes, Dean Smith, classy.
It's Coach K. Yeah.
All right, so good. So I'll do my favorite part part my favorite part was when um i don't know when they taped this i would assume it's been a couple years in the making um i don't think so dwight howard was wearing a kobe shirt which i don't think he'd be wearing before all right so let's say it was a year ago is that fair sure okay so my favorite moment was when uh coach k said when we lost in 2006 to japan i've never had a defeat worse than that.
Wonder if that's still the case. Yeah, it is the case.
He's an American patriot and he cares about his country more than his team. Wait, there are two losses that happened.
Coach K, I like the way that he got him into Bayern was just like patriotism. Yeah, a lot of F-bombs, not good for the kids.
Coach K was like, listen, we're going to serve overseas, guys. Yeah.
As a unit. I'm excited to try this out.
I just wonder if Coach K would still say that, you know? I don't know if he'd say it. I don't know if he'd say that his worst loss was 2006 to Japan when he lost to his bitter rival in his last year coaching.
Twice. Allegedly last year coaching.
Twice. And one of them including in the Final Four, the first time they ever met in the ncaa tournament huh i actually thought about that the other day yeah i actually that shit is that was bad that was i don't know that i'll ever like that was bad when when patriots eagles was also bad when you were talking about the um watermarks when we were watching it that moment when coach k said when we lost in 2006 it was the worst defeat i ever had i was like i can't wait till this documentary comes out on netflix and i'm going to clip this and tweet it out and it's going to be great and it's going to be great so it is a great documentary though like it is the perfect documentary if you are a uh fan of if you are too young to remember i learned a lot yeah the dream i don't remember them losing in 2004 yeah so this is your team it's a stain all the guys it was a stain on american basketball it was when we started to lose we actually we were in danger of just becoming losers yeah for a while which would have been very embarrassing yeah that that uh clip with the um uh like it was like local news and the woman was like they call them the dream team they're more like the cream team it's like damn brutal that's like yeah yeah derrick eater yeah it's like you can't come back from the cream team, they're more like the cream team.
It's like, damn, brutal. That's tough.
Yeah. Yeah, Derek Eater, yeah.
It's like, you can't come back from the cream team. A lot of excuses from LeBron, but it was good.
I liked seeing LeBron because, again, it's like a time capsule. You get to see LeBron before he became truly LeBron and winning all the rings, and he was still in Cleveland.
He even said something like that, like, I would love to have a ring in one of those clips where he's walking down the hallway. And you're like, oh, yeah, shit.
This is 2008, 2007. That's when everybody liked LeBron.
Yeah. He didn't really have any natural predators out there.
Everybody was rooting for him because he was on such a bad team. Right.
And he was so likable. Everyone was like, I really want LeBron to win a title.
And it's also just great seeing Melo. It is just his element, USA basketball.
But, yeah, go watch it. Out now on Netflix.
The Redeem Team and it's also just great seeing mellow it is just his element usa basketball but yeah go watch it out now on netflix the redeem team it's a it's a perfect like hour and a half watch uh and very cool behind the scenes like just watch we don't want to give too much away watch for the kobe pal gasol storyline it that was awesome like that was a great that was the moment where i was like this documentary rules so um check it out netflix it is streaming now it's called the redeem team out on october 7th only on netflix so make sure you have netflix and watch and you can decide uh who is the goat usa basketball team of all time all right fire fest of the week wrapping up hank, I mean. Shout out Hank.
He hasn't called me fat once this episode. Oh, I never would.
Have you thought it? It was satirical. No.
Have you thought it? Today? Yeah. Have you thought that Big Cat was fat today? No.
Be honest. Be honest.
Of course he has. Not today.
I have. When I'm walking down the hallway, Hank is just in his mind just being like, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, No, again, it's usually like when you talk about food.
Like when you say 14 hot dogs in 12 hours isn't that much. It's not.
That's a fat-ass statement. Not that you're a fat-ass, but.
The initial debate will be on PMTV. Oh, yeah.
Nice. So if you want to see what's actually sparked that, go to the PMT YouTube.
Yeah. phone call which i that's gonna make me look all right that's gonna make me look so bad well you look bad in the moment but i was you weren't in the room and i was like i'm gonna hop on this call real quick and then you came in so it's like you didn't know that i had said that i'm gonna hop on this call real quick and you're just like what the fuck so it's gonna make me look bad but i i had like said what i was doing whatever it is what it is slander um just so you know it will look bad on on pm tv but it was bad in the moment for everyone it was it was actually funny how bad it was it was shocking to me when hank my eyes got like wide as saucers i was like i can't Hank is Hank is him right now well I knew I was like oh no I put it together afterwards like Big Cat didn't hear me when I was like because I had my headphones in and stuff I was talking directly at you and you're just like after three minutes you're like what sorry I'm on the phone it was honestly like impressive it was yeah okay uh what's your fire fest that oh that you're gonna look bad yeah no just you know i apologize it's one of those i was just like i do not take offense a lot of shit was happening and i was just trying to navigate it i navigated it poorly my real fire fest though is i obviously talked about it years ago when it was on how obsessed with game of thrones i was we talked about the final season and stuff on the show i hated the last season covid happened could have watched anything people watched i watched hundreds of shows thought about game of thrones was like fuck that i'm not re-watching it even though i used to love it i'm not re-watching it this new show came out i didn't watch any of it and then this past weekend i watched every episode and now i'm just like all the way back you're back yeah it's it's really it has that like it's it's it's got my attention I think about it like during the day I read the threads I watch videos and stuff I don't really like it I think it's pretty good oh you know I like complaint was the most recent episode felt like it squeezed like nine episodes into one it's it's one of those shows that I think actually Dave said this.
Uh-oh. I was reminded to do not after this.
Okay. It's one of those shows.
I like the show and it's very interesting, but there's many moments where I'm like, why am I watching this show? Like gory moments like this is not fun. Yeah.
And they kill people. Yeah.
They kill your favorite people. Game of Thrones.
Right. No, I know.
It's going to's gonna be incest and violence I know that's what you're signing up for yes I think it's like a 7 out of a possible 10 if we're considering the original Game of Thrones like a 10 it's pretty good it reminds me enough of the original Game of Thrones where I'm like okay I'll watch this but I don't I'll put it this way when I come home from work on Monday or Tuesday, I'm not, like, rushing to watch this show. It's more of, like, a later on in the week type of watch.
Whereas if that was Game of Thrones, if I don't watch it either Sunday night or, like, Monday right after work, I know it's going to be spoiled. Yes.
Okay. Your Firefest, PFT.
My Firefest is I – people that listen to this show will know that I drafted a fantasy baseball team again this year. The team had Express.
We were fucking wagging during the regular season. I paid attention to baseball as much as I could.
Yeah, I didn't set my lineup every day, maybe like a couple times a week. Was number one seed in the entire league, right? Yep.
Made it to the playoffs. I got out to a early like 100 point lead in the playoffs against the despicable bun jeter in the finals yeah and i checked it yesterday and i was making all these moves i was so like i was i was checking my fancy team three four times a day making sure i had all the positions right making sure that i was putting pitchers in that were starting that night.
I was even going onto the waiver wire and I was getting pitchers, uh, that were going to be starting that night. And then just trying to stack my bench as much as I possibly could.
And then I checked it yesterday and yesterday was the last day that I had. And all my pitching stats were at max, max, max, max, max, and I wasn't getting any points.
Damn. So you lost.
I broke some rule of the league that I didn't know existed, and by adding all these pitchers off the waiver wire. So you had a strategy that got you to the number one seed in the championship of the playoffs, and then you abandoned that strategy.
Well, because I was going up against fucking Bun Jeter, and Bun Jeter was doing the same thing that I was. Go in with the horse you rode in on.
Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Can someone explain to me what that means, though? I can't, and neither can you.
Maybe if you had tried this strategy out in the regular season, you would have learned the error of your ways. You can't switch up in the championship if you lost.
No, the entire – Big Cat, do you know what that means, though? What do you mean? Max. It means you lost.
It means you lost. No, the max doesn't mean that I lost.
The max meant that I wasn't getting any more points for any of my players who were out there actually pitching. Oh.
Well, I don't know. Nor do I.
For some reason – I just heard what you said, and it's just like, why switch it up?

For some reason, I got fucked over by our league scoring system in the championship game.

Have you reached out to the commissioner?

And I ended up losing.

I was in the lead, and I ended up losing 801 to 671.

And I got the second place trophy.

And now all my pitchers just say max, max, max, max, max, max, max on it it i don't know what's going on this league i think i think i violated a league rule i think i the the commissioner like try too hard singled me out and came down on me damn have you reached out to the commissioner sorry for i don't know what's going on i get reached out to the commissioner i don't know who the commissioner is it's a team it's a league of random people that I got assigned to in early April. Sorry for your loss.
You have no one to blame for yourself, IMO. Not to be offensive, but.
I mean, I'm not offended by it. You've got to look in the mirror.
Yeah. I'm not offended by it.
I'm just saying I made good moves, and this guy, Bun Jeter, was stacking up his pitching lineup every night. I tried to do the same thing, and I got punished.
You tried to play his game, not your game. It just seems like unequal enforcement of the rules.
Yeah, that sucks. I'm sorry.
You're not sorry. I mean, I'm saying sorry.
I don't care, but I'm sorry. Yeah, you're not sorry at all.
I don't I yeah I don't I do not care I put my heart and soul into this team so much so like half the time you're like oh fuck I forgot to start this guy yeah but that's in the regular season that worked yeah it worked I had a great scene then you changed year two in a row year two runner-up CMED Express we're like the USA rugby of fantasy baseball team I'm the I'm the meme right now. I'm not listening to all that, but I'm sorry that happened to you or happy that...
Listen, a lot of people out there did care about Seamhead Express. That's how I feel right now, but I'm sorry.
A ton of people out there cared about the Seamhead Express. If not in this room, that's fine.
I'm just... None of us in this room cared, including yourself.
Correct. Correct.
Correct. So, yeah.
Correct. You can't expect other people to care if you don't care.
I did not care about this team until the finals. Yeah.
That's brutal. All right.
My Fire Fest is – I just – It's really just dealing with Stu Finder all the time. He just says that he's going to retire every week, and it's just now I'm going to lean into it, it i guess he just keeps doing this and i i don't know what to do with it because everyone's just like oh he's retiring he's retiring he just does this for drama and i have to just play along now he's a little bit of a uh a sympathy farmer uh i think a little bit i know i know a little bit i think he did it once he loved the uh outpouring of support and like don don't retire too.
So he's like, in classic Stu fashion, I'm just going to now just beat the shit out of this horse until it's dead. Yeah.
A hundred times. And everyone's going to, every time, he's basically saying that he's dead every time.
So everyone can be like, you're a legend. I love you.
Don't like, fuck Dan. Like, why would he, you know, squeeze you out? It's like, what do you want me to do, dude? He's going to keep doing it.
He is. It would be funny if Stu did the mental health card.
I don't think if he was like, yeah, I'm checking myself into a hospital. He probably will do that, actually, now that I'm saying it.
Because that's the final boss of the sympathy farming. So is he not actually quitting? No.
Maybe, but no. But yeah, he just keeps doing it.
And I just keep having, he keeps tagging me in it, too. Like, I wouldn't care if he didn't tag me, but he tagged me today and was like, I love working with Big Cat.
Like, that's a dream of my life. I'm going to miss him so much when I retire.
And everyone's just like, why the fuck is he retiring? That could be true, right? Yeah. I mean, it's like – Sure.
I'm looking at the – No, but I'm saying it could be true. Everyone's freaking out.
Yeah. If you just say like, hey, I really – I'd like to thank everybody that I work with right now.
Big Cat, Max, Hank, Jake, to a lesser extent, Billy. I just want to say that I appreciate you guys.
I appreciate coming to work. You've been nothing but professional.
And I'm going to miss you when I stop doing this show. What did I...
That could be... That's all accurate, right? Yeah, except that he did, as my time with Barstool Sports is coming to an end.
Oh, so he just said he is walking away. He.
He's sympathy farming. Oh, what did you tweet? I think it was when Liam, you're like, oh, we have show news announcements coming tomorrow.
Yeah. And that one was like, the show's over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can easily rig it where you can sympathy farm being like, big announcement.
We've talked about it, just saying, PMT's done. And he's like, for the weekend.

So we'll see on Sunday.

All right, Jake, finish this off.

Yeah, so Wednesday, I was a good Jew.

I fasted, so I was starving all day.

All right, so I know how you mean to say that,

but when you start out like that, it sounds racist, but it's not.

Why?

I don't know.

I don't know. No, he was saying that for his grandmother his grandmother who might be listening yeah yeah that was what he was doing so all day you're starving and then when you break the fast you just your tummy hurts i eat like two pounds of tuna like two bagels and then you feel like crap out of a can what out of a can no you gotta just slow yourself back in yeah easier said than done when you're starving and there's food in front of you.

Or just don't do any of that.

Or not fast.

This is my second year.

Wait.

What about your tweet about you had to run around New York trying to find a falafel or whatever?

What?

I went to three grocery stores to find a challah.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

That was Tuesday.

A falafel egg?

Rude.

He nailed it.

That's more racist than that. Yeah, he nailed it.
I know. Look at your falafel.
Just don't do it. Yeah, I don't have to.
Did you do the water part? No. So you drank water.
You had to drink water. It was just eating.
We knew that. How bad do your breast smell? Probably pretty bad.
Ugh, gross. Two bagels? Two bagels.
A lot of tuna. Falafel.
Some falafel. I would love to hear Hank explain what Judaism is.
Any religion. Any religion.
No, challah is probably the most underrated type of bread. It's good bread.
It's really good. That's a good debate that we can have.
Yeah, Mount Rushmore bread's next year. Judaism is just Christianity, but it's zero BC and before.

They don't mess with that.

There's one book.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's one book.

It's old school.

Yeah.

It's Tom Brady with the Patriots.

OG shit.

They don't, yeah.

That's it, right?

Mm-hmm.

By the way, I think Chaps is going to be watching.

Oh, so Jaguars are going to have to be on not quad box.

Okay, so wait, Jaguars, Texans?

That really fucks us.

He might not get that. He also has to get creamed.
He does have to get creamed. He owes me a creamed.
Cream team. Okay, numbers.
Have you ever gotten this, Hank? No. Eight.
17. 26.
What if 69 hit? I'll guess 69. Yeah, I'll guess 69.
What were you, Max? 22. What did you say, Hank? 17.

Is it on?

1-7 in your face.

All right.

All right, here we go.

14.

Oh, so close. Damn, so close.

You were just swept three off.

Sorry, Hank.

Sorry, Hank. Sorry, Hank.

I'm rooting for you, bro.

Love you guys.

Jake, do you have an animal fact?

I forgot one. Thank you.
I like to be safe and starving. Hey, come on.
Hey, come on. Hey, come on.
Hey, come on. Hey, come on.
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