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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, football is all the way back. We recap a crazy five days of college football.

Speaker 1 We have our good friend Tom Fernelli on the show to recap some more football and talk about the 12-team playoff. We also have Mount Rushmore of Itali to finish Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 1 Tom and Hank are teamed up. Great Mount Rushmore finale.

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Speaker 1 is Tuesday, September 6th,

Speaker 1 and football is back. That was a great weekend, wasn't it? Oh, starting on Thursday night.
And I know we didn't get a chance to wrap up the backyard brawl on Friday as part of my take, but

Speaker 1 that was a hell of a way to get into a first full actual real weekend of football.

Speaker 1 It was that game, the backyard brawl, which was amazing.

Speaker 1 And then it like went seamlessly into Penn State Purdue fourth quarter. And it was just from that moment on, off and running, college football.

Speaker 1 I don't know why, like we were talking about it before, how college football, it's so much fun. Sundays do kind of like...
swallow up college football once NFL comes back.

Speaker 1 They should start college football season in fucking July.

Speaker 1 It's going to start it after the

Speaker 1 spring sport now. Dude, it was so fun watching just wall-to-wall college football.

Speaker 1 My only critique of the entire weekend was, and it's similar to whenever we have March Madness, and then you get to that Monday, and you're like, what do I do now?

Speaker 1 Sunday afternoon, I was just like, give me, give me a couple games. Like, why can't Houston and UTSA play now? Yeah.
That game was great.

Speaker 1 There was nothing until it led into the LSU-FSU game, which I think everybody hates Brian Kelly now.

Speaker 1 I think that's kind of where we're at. Fire Brian Kelly.
Yeah, we get into that with Tom a little bit. I did look up his buyout, actually.
What is it?

Speaker 1 So it's tough to say because you have to do some negotiations on his behalf because it wouldn't be the full amount of his contract, which at this point would be like $90 million left over.

Speaker 1 You have to assume it'd be somewhere between like $75 and $85 million right now to buy out Brian Kelly. I say go for it.
Go for it. Right now, you're throwing good money after bad.

Speaker 1 Do you know what it takes? One donor. donor that's it takes one rich donor what if

Speaker 1 what if coach o

Speaker 1 gives back his buyout yes and then we get two rich donors to match it was um the fact that it was in new orleans you know in front of a crazy crowd i think that they mic'd up the bands extra for that game which

Speaker 1 every every college game should be that because that like the bands and and fsu trolling by playing neck all night which was fucked up especially because you can't like if you win the game then you can shove it back in their face.

Speaker 1 But the fact that you lose on such a tragic extra point, like, the whole, I mean, the whole weekend, it was

Speaker 1 App State UNC was just like the most incredible game to watch where I that game, the fact that the UNC kid returned the on-side kick for a touchdown and it was actually a terrible, terrible play just shows you how crazy that game had gotten.

Speaker 1 It was nuts. So App State scored 40 points in the fourth quarter of that game.

Speaker 1 And they should have gotten that first first two-point conversion where the receiver just kind of started backpedaling really fast. Yeah.
And people forget, like, it's hard to run fast backwards.

Speaker 1 You got to turn around and run underneath that ball. And then on that kickoff, everybody was like, get down, get down.
No, he ran it back. Then they go back down the field.

Speaker 1 I think everybody knew when you were watching UNC's weird zone defense that they play.

Speaker 1 They just take like eight guys, tell them drop back 15, 20 yards, and then just stand perfectly still facing the quarterback. Do you know what it looked like?

Speaker 1 It looked like when you play Madden or college football video game and you played on rookie or freshman, and it's like, this is so easy.

Speaker 1 Every pass is a 30-yard pass, and then every third is a touchdown.

Speaker 1 It's like you're playing against the light blue traffic cones. Yeah.
They just weren't moving at all. Gene Chizzik, like, what? He, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 You have to fire him.

Speaker 1 Do you? I mean, the fact that he has a buyout, too. The fact that it happened, and then the next day, Jackson State, shout out Deion.

Speaker 1 His kid is awesome. He was 17 for 17 to start the game.
But the fact that Jackson State shut down

Speaker 1 Famu is what Jack McGuire was calling him, Famu, and UNC gave up 24 points to them. How do you...

Speaker 1 It was like a double whammy that they had the App State game, and then the next day you get to watch a team actually play defense.

Speaker 1 I love watching old-ass Mac Brown have to dance after all these games. That's great.
It is pretty good.

Speaker 1 He's got a gut.

Speaker 1 He's got hungry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's very hungry. The Argyle looks real smooth on an old guy trying to dance.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is like the Carolina Blue is the best color in the game, and somehow Mac Brown makes it look not great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I was actually hanging out with Arian Foster this weekend, and we were watching that game. He was like, you know, I actually wanted to go to UNC.

Speaker 1 I had never watched them play, never been on campus, but I was willing to sign a letter of intent to go there just because of how cool their uniform is.

Speaker 1 No, I have a long-standing theory that at least 30% of UNC alum and current students are there just because of the colors, because that's how good the colors are.

Speaker 1 Because when you pick a school, that's your color for life. You get to wear that forever.
If you're a UNC alum, you get to just wear Carolina blue polo every day, and everyone's like, what's up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, oh, well, I went to Carolina. It's fantastic.
Yeah. And yeah, that's how I chose my rugby team, too, was because they were light blue.
It was like, I want to wear

Speaker 1 sky blue. It's a great color.
It's a great color. I'm trying to think of, I mean, Georgia was,

Speaker 1 I really still can't imagine what it must be like to be on the Oregon sideline and be like, we're this far away. Because that's really what it comes down to is like, it wasn't just an asking.

Speaker 1 It was a referendum on everything Oregon's been building where it's like, yeah, this is nice.

Speaker 1 You guys have had Mario Cristobal put together some incredible recruiting classes, like historically great Oregon recruiting classes, and they're still that far away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like watching an NFL team play against a college team.

Speaker 1 Georgia might be better. I'm kind of

Speaker 1 thinking Stetson Bennett might be a pro, even though he's got the best team around him.

Speaker 1 He looked awesome. So he did look good, but I mean, he did have.
Yeah, but he looked. It was different size people competing.
Just put him on a really good NFL team. There you go.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Put him on the Patriots team. Then he'll be great.
So I feel like when I sat down and watched this game, I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 17 is a lot of points. A lot of points.
That's a lot of points. Oregon,

Speaker 1 they're not that bad, right? 17 is a lot of points. This lady next to me at the sports book in Lake Charles just leans over and says, honey, they're going to get shut out.
Maybe allow a fuel goal.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Right off the bat.
And I was like, oh, she just honeyed me. And getting honeyed is, I think it's worse than getting buddied.
Yeah. Or palled.
Although it's endearing a little bit.

Speaker 1 Oh, but no, it was a condescending honey. It was a very, she was like, bless your heart.
They're not going to get two points. But it's letting you down easily.
And she was right. And it wasn't.

Speaker 1 It felt like it could have been worse.

Speaker 1 That's the crazy part it could have been worse easily like it was and again oregon's not a bad team this isn't a team that like they will win i don't know seven eight nine games like they'll still be good in the pac-12 they just you can't be on the field with them we we saw we we basically ripped off the band-aid and get got to see the the january 1st college football playoff game that's going to happen between alabama or georgia and whoever gets the four seat yeah because that's exactly what's going to happen i don't know what other team I mean, we're watching Clemson right now and their offense.

Speaker 1 They're the same team. They've actually picked it up a little, but they're the same team as last year.
Their defense is incredible.

Speaker 1 It's really good. But Georgia, like watching Georgia, they don't have any weaknesses.
I have a crazy thing. Their biggest weakness is their returning

Speaker 1 quarterback that won them a national championship. Right.
That's Georgia's biggest issue. Yeah, the guy that's pretty good.
No one trusts where everyone's like, someone's like, yes, that's in Bennett.

Speaker 1 He's not very good. Oh, he's not very good? Okay, what's the worst could happen? They could win another national title.
I I don't know. I mean, he did step up big in that game.

Speaker 1 For Clemson, I have a question. This is a very stupid question.
I know it doesn't work, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

Speaker 1 When you have that good of a defensive line,

Speaker 1 why not put a couple of them in offensive line? Because their O-line sucks. Just be like, you guys are so good.
Just maybe play both sides of the ball.

Speaker 1 I think you could do that if you said, just like run the ball.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to run it. Yeah, like you guys are such insane athletes, and you're so good at playing defensive line.
You can't be...

Speaker 1 You would probably be better than a bad offensive line.

Speaker 1 I think so, yeah. There are some teams that have done that in the past.
Why not? And had players play two ways. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just be Dabo. That actually would fit Dabo, too, where he just gets guys.
He's like, yeah, you're going to have to play every down. Just our biggest, strongest guys are just in the trenches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no NIL money for you, but you have to play both sides of the ball. It's just, you just get labeled as a trench guy.

Speaker 1 Not offense, not defense. Trenches.
We got the best trench team. You just do the trenches.
There shouldn't be that big of a difference, but

Speaker 1 I feel like they put so much more time into making sure their defensive line and their tackles and their ends are like explosive and fast. Right.
And they just take their offensive line.

Speaker 1 They're like, okay, we're just going to get you fat. We're just going to get you as big as possible.
That's true. They do the offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 I love always seeing offensive linemen when they come as freshmen and they're like... 230 pounds and then like a year and a half later with a weight program and food they're like 290.

Speaker 1 Jumping back to Stetson Bennett real quick, did we ever figure out,

Speaker 1 does he have any siblings that are older than him? I don't know. Like, is he, because

Speaker 1 it would be very funny if his dad, who was Stetson Bennett III, I would imagine, had a couple kids, like a couple boys. He's like, no, not yet.
No, you're not Stetson.

Speaker 1 And then the third kid that came out, that's Stetson.

Speaker 1 That's Stetson IV right there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the oldest of five.

Speaker 4 Aldrin, his brothers are Knox, Luke, and Maverick.

Speaker 1 That is so southern.

Speaker 1 That is so southern. Knox, Luke, and Maverick.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Stetson Bennett family just decided to keep having Stetson Bennett's until one fulfilled the destiny of becoming the Georgia national champion quarterback.

Speaker 1 Luke Bennett definitely, he could be a nice over-the-middle type wide receiver. Really? I feel like Luke Bennett is the lawyer that gets Maverick Bennett out of all his

Speaker 1 jams. Maverick Bennett is definitely the Knox and Luke twins.
Oh, okay. Wait, it's Luke and who?

Speaker 4 Luke and Knox.

Speaker 1 Maverick is the country music guy. And then, yeah, Luke and Knox have definitely

Speaker 1 killed the Eiffel Tower before. You know what I'm saying? For sure.
We know that. All Twins Kiss.

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The other thing I had

Speaker 1 from this weekend, it's so funny how quickly when football comes back, everything else like ceases to exist.

Speaker 1 I think Dylan Cease for the White Sox had a no-hitter, I think, was it all the way to the ninth inning? And they were trying to flash the graphics on the ESPN bottom line. It was like, oh, who cares?

Speaker 1 Did he actually have one? No, he had one. Because he's on my fantasy team.
He had one. He did not end up having a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 I can't remember when he gave it up because I literally was like, football's on. I have to watch and see if Iowa can get another safety.
Oh, that's good because he's on my bench.

Speaker 1 I didn't start him, so that's

Speaker 1 huge news. But it's just like it dawned on me, like, oh, yeah, baseball is still going on.
Yeah. I care again in October.
Technically, baseball is going on. But football is back.
This is,

Speaker 1 it takes everything, all my mental energy just goes to football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, college football all day Friday, really, because I was spending all day Friday decompressing from what happened on Thursday night and then getting ready for the earlier games on Friday.

Speaker 1 So that day was a wash. Saturday, all day, forget about it.
And there's so many games going on on Saturday that you forget are even happening.

Speaker 1 And then you get the live look-in occasionally and you forget, oh, yeah, that's actually, I totally forgot about UTEP Oklahoma during the game. Oh, I didn't.
I had the double on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't forget about it even because I had 43 plays, I think. So, that was too many.
Oh, shout out Dana.

Speaker 1 His best friend, Dana Holgerson. A lot of haters out there will be like, oh, Classic Houston, not playing defense, bo-bo-bo-ba-ba, 37-35.
No, no, no. It went to what, three overtimes? Three overtimes.

Speaker 1 Three overtimes. So, Dana, bad news for the rest of college football.
Dana learned how to coach defense. I also hate the new rule of the double.

Speaker 1 I know it was a new rule last year, but you have to go for two after the third overtime it was very confusing the third overtime sucks but yeah dana i was a loud i was watching that game fucking loud as hell at utsa that uh the worst basketball stadium in the world the what is it called almodome almodome that place sucks to watch basketball seems cool for football sucks to watch basketball dana's moat looks great too yeah i do like how they're having the u.s open like that that gives you a little bit of sports in the week like meaningful sports

Speaker 1 actually you you know what? I like the U.S. Open being on TV right now.

Speaker 1 But then I like it on TV because you can just laugh and be like, oh, yeah, ha ha.

Speaker 1 What losers are watching the U.S. Open right now?

Speaker 1 Well, what they keep doing is because ESPN has the rights to it, they'll cut in in like, you know, a timeout of the football game being like, also, this is happening on ESPN too. It's like, okay.

Speaker 1 Jake mushed Serena Williams. That was nice of you, Jake.
Yeah, down goes the goat. You went to go see you.
I can't wait to see the goat. Yeah, I didn't know that.
She got her ass kicked.

Speaker 4 With Venus, with Venus.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What'd you think? You mushed both of them.
Did you tweet Thanks, Serena?

Speaker 1 I think it said, What a career, something like that. You didn't do the hashtag Thanks, Serena?

Speaker 4 I did not do the hashtag. I did.
Did you get it? I did the hashtag Serena. It comes up with a goat.

Speaker 1 It's pretty cool. I did the hashtag Thanks, Serena.
Did you get one of those giant balls?

Speaker 4 No, I got a honeydeuce.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 6 It's a novelty drink there. You would love it.

Speaker 7 Did you deuce?

Speaker 1 Did you drink a water, too? Of course. Oh, whew.

Speaker 1 That was close. Was it cool? How was the atmosphere? It was really, really cool.

Speaker 4 I think even if you're not a tennis fan, you guys would enjoy it.

Speaker 6 But again, we'll get to my Huzak.

Speaker 1 Huge

Speaker 1 upset today. Oh, what? That they didn't let Jokovich play in this tournament? Nope.
There can't be upsets when the best player doesn't play. No, there's a new guy.
It's a good story.

Speaker 1 I'm a fan of this guy. Okay, but

Speaker 1 there can't be upsets when the best player in the world doesn't play. He's not allowed to play because he has freedom of choice.
Is that his only crime?

Speaker 4 No. Wide open tournament now.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think what other games.

Speaker 1 Florida. Oh, yeah.
Anthony Richardson. Hank, you deserve all the credit.
That was an electric, electric game.

Speaker 1 I love, too, that they were like, Utah might be struggling with the humidity right as they show a guy puking. It's like, yep, that could be the case.
Utah is still very, very good.

Speaker 1 It's just Anthony Richardson is...

Speaker 1 He's the man.

Speaker 1 People don't talk about the altitude affecting you in the reverse order, too. Yeah.
If you come from a high elevation, that air is just too thick. It clogs you all up.

Speaker 1 You basically choke on the air when you get down to the swamp. And I just like Cam Rising because I just think of Boomer, which is going to come back, Cam Bad Moon Rising, yeah.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 Ohio State Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 it was not a great, like, exciting game because everyone expected Ohio State to be fireworks.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 we'll talk about it with Tom. We break down a bunch of stuff with Tom.
More college football talk, 12-game playoff, all that stuff, and Mount Rushmore of Italians. I actually think that

Speaker 1 Cincinnati's loss to Arkansas is better for Cincinnati. Like, it proved that they still kind of belong because you could say that they outplayed the Razorbacks for this game.
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 Although I do like Arkansas's quarterback.

Speaker 4 That was the battle of the PMT recurring guess.

Speaker 1 K.J. Daniels, yeah, who? Oh, Sam Pitcoll, and Pittman, yeah.
Pittman's just the fucking man. They're both awesome.

Speaker 1 I like both teams, but I feel like Cincinnati had a lot to to lose coming out this year.

Speaker 1 Everyone was going to be like, oh, last year was a fluke, et cetera, et cetera. I think they're still very good.
I think they're like a top 20 team on Sunday.

Speaker 1 They went down to Fayetteville and held their own, and they were in that game.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back, and then we will talk some more college football with Tom Ferneli. By the way, tomorrow we have a show.
So Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday this week.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow's show, Pete Prisco and Stu Feiner. I think it's the combined shortest guest we've ever had.

Speaker 1 But we talk about NFL. We're going to break down who we like, wins, losses, all that stuff.
Stu has quite the system

Speaker 1 of over-unders and how he did the whole NFL betting season. But before we get to who's back.

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Speaker 5 Just like football it's about grit grind and getting it done head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own chevy silverado hank who is your who's back of the week i have a couple uh my first one classic shorts yes good call hank live uh made huge shockwaves in the sporting news they they came out and they said they're going to allow their players to play in shorts unless you're a woman unless you're a woman probably

Speaker 5 uh and that you know it has pga players shook there's a lot they don't let let the women drive off the T either. People joining Live now after this announcement.

Speaker 5 So shorts are back.

Speaker 1 Shorts are back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of players. I bet you're going to see a big influx.

Speaker 1 Vijay Singh's going to be like, wait, I can let these and let the gams out. Shorts.
That's why Phil did it.

Speaker 1 My son made it the whole summer without wearing shorts. So he will not be joining the Live Tour.

Speaker 1 Shout out to him. Just every day.
No shorts. Pants.
And a bathing suit? Nope.

Speaker 1 I had to get him

Speaker 1 like a

Speaker 1 swim pants.

Speaker 1 Listen, I respect it. It's the old soprano line.
A Don never wears shorts. So that's just, he's just, he's just the boss of the family.
He doesn't wear shorts.

Speaker 1 I feel like Dons can wear shorts now, though. No,

Speaker 1 things have really changed. That's a time capsule of like the year 2005, 2006.
Now I think shorts are everyone's game.

Speaker 1 Do you know that that was actually like a real thing that happened to James Gandolfini? He got called in the middle of the night, random number. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And the person was like, hey, I like what you're doing. Like, you're a great actor.
Just so you know, Don never wears shorts. I feel like fucking great.
Now, listen, Don never wears shorts.

Speaker 1 Times have changed. Don never wears shorts.

Speaker 5 Also, just connecting some dots, though, that video of Max Homa hitting the hole in one last week.

Speaker 1 In shorts, asterisks.

Speaker 1 Let me just say this. If Max Homa joins a Live Tour, I will

Speaker 1 never watch the Live Tour, and I will berate him constantly. Brooks is fine.
We expected Brooks to do it. Max, uh-uh.
I would say if they offer Max over $100 million.

Speaker 1 No, I'm going to say he's money-grabbing. Like, that's bullshit.
We'll get over that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How can you fucking face your family? All that shit.

Speaker 5 My other who's.

Speaker 1 Because Brooks is just living his best. What if they just offer Max like three great-looking golden retrievers? He's like, yeah, those are very cute thoughts.

Speaker 1 He would forget to ask for money. He might.

Speaker 1 He would be the worst live player ever. He wouldn't even be rich.

Speaker 5 My other who's back is Brendan Frazier.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, good.

Speaker 5 It's Cons week. There's a lot of Khan's drama.
I don't know if anyone was going to talk about the Harry style situation, but.

Speaker 1 What happened, Hank?

Speaker 5 Well, let me get through Brendan first. Okay.

Speaker 5 It's Khan's Film Festival. This is the classic.
Every time this happens, they do the standing ovations every movie there. People get like a 17-hour standing ovation.
It's always someone.

Speaker 1 They always time it too. They always let you know, oh, they had the longest ovation ever.

Speaker 5 But Brendan Frazier apparently plays like a super fat guy, wears a fat suit, and it's like a very emotional movie. He's doing press.
He got the big standing ovation.

Speaker 5 He was crying, and then everyone, you know, is like, this is the, you know, his career is back. Brennan Frasier's back.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. I love that.
Was it ever gone, though? Truly? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'd like me too'

Speaker 5 and they got canceled.

Speaker 1 Wait, he was. Brennan got me too'd?

Speaker 5 He He came out being like, I got...

Speaker 1 He got harassed. Oh, did

Speaker 1 you get blacklisted? So he got blacklisted for somebody else. I think he was blacklisted before because he wasn't a great actor.
I think he's a great actor.

Speaker 1 But people might not have thought he was a great actor.

Speaker 5 I mean, he got a standing ovation for

Speaker 1 10 minutes. Yeah, no, he's back.
I think so. His movies are good.
Yeah, no, of course. He was like jacked before, but then he got super fat.
Ah. That kind of

Speaker 1 tight casting yeah

Speaker 1 that's bullshit yeah it was like the mummy three or something

Speaker 1 didn't do well

Speaker 1 but then the rock the rock tweeted we have no everything we've just said is completely guessed i'm pretty sure i'm right so let's see he got he got jerked off and then people were like no you can't be here anymore that's really fucked up well it was like some harvey weinstein shit where it was like you got to do this or else i'm going to like kill your career and he spoke out and then his career got killed so it was a guy named philip burke who was the head of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association.

Speaker 1 They host the Golden Globes. And Burke like sexually assaulted him and then Fraser, Bryn Fraser like said, oh, you tried to make a joke and you grabbed my ass and all this stuff.
And then Burke.

Speaker 1 I'm reading all this in real time right now, so I'm probably getting most of it wrong. Then Burke blacklisted Bryn Fraser afterwards.
But now Bryn Fraser's back, getting stand ovations at cons

Speaker 1 and probably future Oscar winner. But did the Mummy 3 flop?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but The Rock tweeted it.

Speaker 5 He said he supported me coming into his Mummy Returns franchise for my first ever role, which kicked off my Hollywood career. So shout out to Brian Frazier.

Speaker 1 He gave us The Rock. I just looked up Mummy 3, and the first people also ask is, was the Mummy 3 a flop? The film failed both critically and financially.
Shit.

Speaker 1 But that just

Speaker 1 already is graceful. I got the Mummy 1 and The Mummy Two.
Were those flops? No. School time? Was Bedazzled with Elizabeth Hurley a flop? Probably not.

Speaker 1 I saw it at least six times.

Speaker 1 Bonk. Great, great bonk.
I'll wear that bonk proudly.

Speaker 1 In Cino Man?

Speaker 1 Great movie. I'm just naming Brennan Fraser.
Or George of the Jungle. Yeah.
The Bubble Boy, right? Wasn't he the Bubble Boy?

Speaker 1 Was he? I'm pretty sure he was a Bubble Boy. I think he was.
Was he the Bubble Boy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought that was someone else.

Speaker 1 You might be right. Yeah, it might be.
Yeah, he might have been Bubble Boy. The Harry

Speaker 1 Springer. Jake Killenhall was the Bubble Boy.

Speaker 1 Damn it. It's Steve Wilbur and Fraser.

Speaker 1 Steve Nebraska.

Speaker 1 What's Steve Nebraska? When he was the fucking pitcher. Oh, the natural, right? No, the natural's different.

Speaker 1 It's another one of those one-word.

Speaker 1 The scout. The scout.
Yeah, I knew that. That's what I meant.
Yep. Airheads.
Dude, he came in in a helicopter and he pitched a perfect game and hit like five home runs. Didn't he pitch a perfect.

Speaker 1 I think he only threw strikes. I think it was an immaculate thing.
Yeah, it was, yeah. Dude, this guy's a legend.
Fuck the guy who grabbed his ass. Oh, wait.
He's in Batgirl, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was penguin. Oh, really? He was a penguin in Batgirl? Oh, no.
Was he in Morbin?

Speaker 1 I know. I'm not seeing anything.
All right, well, I just want it on the record that we're a pro-Brendan Fraser podcast.

Speaker 5 Yeah, come on the show.

Speaker 1 And fuck that guy who grabbed his ass.

Speaker 1 If I ever see him, I'll spit on him. I'm going to.

Speaker 5 Just like Harry Styles, Darren Olivia Wilde, Chris Pine, Chris Pratt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Pine. Chris Pine.

Speaker 1 John Pine, Chris Pratt, Chris Pine.

Speaker 5 I am going to have to do a little bit more research into what the actual drama is because it's one of those things where I knew that there was like tensions or whatever. I don't know

Speaker 5 what the actual tensions are between Olivia Wilde, who's the director, Florence Pugh, who's the actress, Harry Styles. There's some type of love triangle, controversy,

Speaker 5 co-star jealousy actor stuff that I

Speaker 5 full hand up, I I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get out on a limb here and say that the issues revolve around cocaine and sex. But then tonight

Speaker 5 tonight there was a video of Harry Styles walking back to his seat. Chris Prine is sitting next to him.

Speaker 1 John Pine, Chris Pine. John Pryne, Chris Pratt, Chris Pine.
And Harry Styles. John Prine's the sexist.

Speaker 5 He appears to spit on Chris Pine, who is taken aback. And it's just like, what's going on here? What is going on?

Speaker 1 Harry Styles is wearing maybe the most egregious collar that I've ever seen in my life. He's got like two neckties.

Speaker 5 Perfectly normal collar.

Speaker 1 Perfectly normal collar. I did a new slant.
I did a poll to ask the people because I also don't know what's going on. And I said, we will just ride with whoever the people decide.

Speaker 1 And it was Harry Styles, 11%,

Speaker 1 Chris Pine, 27%.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Where's the other?

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers in jail, 62%

Speaker 1 to the voting. Do you think that they're just like trying to act bitchy towards each other, like drum up publicity for this movie that I've never heard of before this moment?

Speaker 1 I like that you're staying woke about it, Billy.

Speaker 1 Kind of like the Chris Rock slap Will Smith. Yeah, you were proven to be correct about that, right? So wrong.
I don't know. Who knows? Okay,

Speaker 1 they're all guilty. Does anyone know? What even is life? Here's my official takeaway on the situation.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 They all kind of suck, and the new Harry Styles album is awesome. Wait, wait, wait.
I don't. Harry Styles' music is awesome, and Chris Pine is awesome in Hell and High Water.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like him in Hell and High Water. Yeah.
Oh, but Ben Foster's better in Hell or High Water. Final takeaway, Ben Foster, great actor.
They're both Harry Styles. New album Kicks Ass.

Speaker 1 Also, Harry Styles, I guess, is a Packers fan, so I'm Chris Pine for life.

Speaker 1 I think we settled that. That was PMT Talking Hollywood.
We nailed every part of the last 10 minutes of the podcast. All right, PMT.
My Who's Back in the Week is Big Ben. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ben Roethlisberger is back because he is hosting a podcast. I did not think that was going to happen.
Oh, you mean

Speaker 1 the guy who created his own documentary? No, I mean, Big Cat, is there anything about Big Ben? Just bear with me here.

Speaker 1 In his past, where he would go do a piece of media once a week, every single week, and talk about himself and about his coaches. Yeah.
Has he ever... Oh, yeah, his entire career he's been doing that.

Speaker 1 So now he's doing his own podcast. It's called Footballin, which is a fun little Pittsburgh way to say football.
Nice. Because Big Ben played in Pittsburgh for a long time.

Speaker 1 So he's going to be doing a podcast, and I'm sure that it's just going to devolve into him talking about various injuries.

Speaker 1 It should just be him talking about ranking the injuries that he's played through. I really hope it's just like, I wouldn't have made that throw.
Just seconds ago.

Speaker 1 That pick six that Mitch had, I never would have thrown that. I would have thrown it to the open guy for a touchdown.
I hope he's questioning.

Speaker 1 Mike Tomlin's play calling, but not this year. I hope he's questioning it last year.

Speaker 1 So everything that he calls for Mitch, he's like, see, now, if Mike had opened up the playbook last year, we really could have had some fun out there.

Speaker 1 There's definitely going to be a moment where Big Ben's podcast makes ESPN bottom line, where he says something and then he has to retract it. Yeah.
He's going to have to do some retraction.

Speaker 1 What's up, guys? It's Big Ben here, brought to you by Roman Swipes.

Speaker 1 No, no, he says, this is National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Speaker 1 Very important time. Always wear a helmet.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's going to be a musclesome podcast. We will definitely be doing a review of that podcast on this podcast.

Speaker 1 All right. My Who's Back of the Week.

Speaker 1 We should cut up Big Ben on his podcast and then ask him questions and then just hit play and have him say the answers back to us. Yeah.
Big Ben out of context. We should definitely get him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's do that. We'll have a super cut.
My Who's Back of the Week is CM Punk. Another thing that I'm going to have to look more into, but I'm just going to side with CM Punk no matter what.

Speaker 1 But his press conference like went super viral this weekend.

Speaker 1 Big-time drama in the AEW. Essentially,

Speaker 1 it seems like there's locker room issues. I also watched the press conference and I was like, oh, that seemed like he kind of ripped into some people.

Speaker 1 And then I saw an alternate angle and Tony Khan's just sitting next to him the whole time.

Speaker 1 And it felt like CM Punk was kind of just shoving it in everyone's face, which that's... That's why he's electric.
That's why he's CM Punk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, even when CM Punk is, even when he's just doing a work, he's actually being serious, right? Yeah. No, he's just kind of always,

Speaker 1 it's never what CM Punk says. It's always your reaction to it that changes.

Speaker 1 I still think CM Punk could show up on Monday Night Raw being like, fuck you, Vince. Like, I've, even when he was well gone from the WWB, I was like, no, he's coming back now.

Speaker 1 Like, he for sure is going to come back. So, but yeah, it was, I just, what CM Punk is like one of the best to do it.
So I just, I like whenever he speaks facts.

Speaker 1 He's one of those guys that like, if he's giving an impassioned speech, you know that he's most likely right and also has thought it out well enough that it's like not just like out of nowhere that he's just pissed off that everyone.

Speaker 1 He's a big-time person who will sit down and say like the meanest, most honest things as calmly as possible.

Speaker 1 And the fact that he's so calm when he's saying these things about you makes you overreact to him, and then you look like the asshole. It's a great skill set to have.
Yes. Billy.

Speaker 1 My who's back is Giselle.

Speaker 1 So over the weekend, a little bit of a breaking story that then went back.

Speaker 1 But I don't know if Hank has any opinion on this, but Giselle and Tom Brady might have divorced, but not, but got into a fight. It was weird.
I just saw an offhand headline on Friday that said,

Speaker 1 cite your sources.

Speaker 1 Was it a real headline? It was like a gossip magazine. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Apparently

Speaker 1 he went to the Bahamas or something, and they may have gone to a huge fight, and then Giselle may have flown off to Costa Rica. Whoa.
So they might be divorced now?

Speaker 1 I have no idea. I mean, you have to take the Big Blacks.
This is one of those gossipy things. Like, was he retired or not? Are they still together?

Speaker 1 But it was kind of sad because Giselle and Tom Brady were like superpower couple. I think you have to take the Bucs week one.

Speaker 1 I think you have to take the Bucs for the season because if we know anything about Tom Brady, he's like, I'm going to win her back by winning another Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He's going to have a lot more time time to focus on football. Correct.
Hmm. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I need to wait this one out because at some point he's probably also going to get back with her. The question is, is he heartbroken? And I don't.

Speaker 1 He's quote-unquote sad. Okay.
That's sad. But sad for Tom Brady is like,

Speaker 1 I'm just going to rip apart more defenses. Is he going, but what if Tom Brady just gets slutty with it? Yeah.
What if he has like a mid-mid

Speaker 1 half-midlife crisis? All right, So let's just say that the story developing on where we're going to gamble with this.

Speaker 1 But there's definitely a way you have to, you have to pick a lane on how this potential divorce could go. I would just like to say, Giselle,

Speaker 1 I know you're a big AWL, come on the podcast and talk about your feelings. We'd love to help you through this very difficult part of.

Speaker 1 I'd like to say, Giselle, what PFT said right there, he's probably coming on a little too hard. If he's bothering you, just let me know and I'll take care of it.

Speaker 1 I'd also like to add to that that that you know big cat sometimes he tries to explain what i'm saying to you um but if it came across that way that's not my intention at all but i just think that you know mental health should come first for you giselle so please uh you know if you want to discuss your emotions your feelings if you just want to you know maybe go out for a quick drink uh talk about it Come on, part of my take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Giselle. And again, PFT, maybe getting a little out of line there, but that's okay.
You should definitely come on pardon my take.

Speaker 1 I would love to talk to you. Also, just throwing this out there, you are 5'11, so you would be taller than PFT.

Speaker 1 It'd be a nice change of pace.

Speaker 1 Never a guy go down on you standing up?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Just a joke. I'm not going to eat Giselle's pussy.
Bunk.

Speaker 1 What gave it away, Billy?

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is American tennis. We have a very

Speaker 7 big feel-good story in the U.S.

Speaker 4 Open.

Speaker 1 So Francis Tiazo, American,

Speaker 4 upsets Rafa Nadal today in the round of 16.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 so here's his story.

Speaker 4 His dad, well, first of all, his parents were immigrants from

Speaker 4 Sierra Leone.

Speaker 4 His dad was a construction worker who helped build a tennis center in Maryland. became the custodian, and that's how his son picked up tennis.
Wow. And now he just beat Rafa on the biggest stage.

Speaker 1 He grew up living in a custodian's closet. Like, actually, living and sleeping in there of a tennis facility.
Now he beat Rafa. Yeah.
But he didn't beat Jokovic.

Speaker 6 He did not. Okay.

Speaker 1 That is a cool story.

Speaker 7 It is a cool story.

Speaker 4 I think he'd be great on this show, especially if he wins the tournament.

Speaker 6 What was his name again?

Speaker 1 Remember what you did to the last guy that you brought up? He was Tiafo. Kyrios? No.
He's still in it, too.

Speaker 1 McGuirie. McQuiry.

Speaker 4 Oh, Sam Query.

Speaker 1 Sam Quirrio.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was the last match of his career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you ended that that guy's career.

Speaker 4 Well, this time, look, he beat Rafa.

Speaker 1 Okay. Tiafo, come on the podcast.
Tiafo. Let's go.

Speaker 4 And he's a big DC sports fan. Brad Beale was in his box today.

Speaker 7 Wow.

Speaker 4 He's in his player's box. Brad Beale was

Speaker 1 pumping his box.

Speaker 4 LeBron tweeted about him. So Baby Braun is back.
He called him Young King.

Speaker 1 Oh, there we go. Oh, nice.
Right now, I'm in. Yeah, he's the baby Braun of the Week.

Speaker 1 So this is a great story.

Speaker 4 Tiafo versus Kyrios final is what I'm hoping for.

Speaker 1 Wow. That would be electric.

Speaker 1 Kyrios is. Kyrios is humping the air today.
He's hilarious. Double watch.

Speaker 1 He is funny.

Speaker 5 It was like the first, what is it, the first game, first set of the first

Speaker 5 at the very beginning of the game, and he was like smashing his body.

Speaker 1 He beat number one yesterday.

Speaker 6 So number one and number two are down.

Speaker 1 Who's number one?

Speaker 4 It was Medvedev.

Speaker 1 Oh, Medvedev?

Speaker 4 Well, he's disqualified because he didn't get vaccinated.

Speaker 1 Which is wrong.

Speaker 1 What? We can all.

Speaker 4 To disqualify him or to not

Speaker 1 disqualify for someone making a personal choice. It's complete bullshit.

Speaker 4 Anyways, yeah, Francis Tiafa, keep an eye on him this week.

Speaker 1 Okay, that is a very cool story. Thank you, Jake, because now you're pulling at my heartstrings.

Speaker 1 Has Jeremy Schapp done

Speaker 1 a really soft, sad story about him yet?

Speaker 4 I don't believe so.

Speaker 1 When that happens, forward it to me, and I'll be all the way in. Tom Rinaldi or Jeremy Schapp?

Speaker 4 Well, Tom Rinaldi is not with them anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but maybe he'll do one just because Tom Rinaldi is like a fucking fly to a light. Like he sees someone go through some type of tragic hardship.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I gotta fucking do a soft voice over this. My prediction is that he will be drafted by an NFL team next year.
Tiafo. Just so that they can use the story during the draft coverage.

Speaker 1 But no,

Speaker 1 Giafo is awesome. Jake, I love how pure and innocent Jake is where he thought that, like, oh, yeah, yeah, he could be.
Yeah, he's a good athlete. He's drafted by an NFL team.
Tiafo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He plays tennis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would imagine like Tom Rinaldi, like, imagine being Tom Rinaldi and meeting people and just like being like, oh, hey, how you doing? Where are you from? Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And be like, so both your parents still alive?

Speaker 1 Tell me about the hardest moment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any bouts with cancer or anything you want to tell me about?

Speaker 1 This young man overcame everything.

Speaker 4 Also, this is the first time since 2003, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, or Serena are not in the

Speaker 4 Grand Slam 400.

Speaker 1 A huge asterisks.

Speaker 1 A huge asterisk. Yeah, Federer is injured.

Speaker 7 That's the Asterisk. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 1 And Jake Mush Serena.

Speaker 1 Yeah, You killed Serena's career. You ended two careers in this U.S.
Open. Incredible job by you.

Speaker 4 I was not at her last singles match. I was at her last double doubles match.

Speaker 1 Which was her last match.

Speaker 1 No, that means that she's 0 for 2 since Jake has seen her. 0 for 1 after.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 She lost the doubles match.

Speaker 6 Also, she won on one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to throw this out for two. Jake, the kiss of death.
I'd just like to call my shot real quick.

Speaker 1 She's not retired.

Speaker 4 You think she's coming back? She is

Speaker 1 not retired. She is not retired.
Well, she's going to have a kid. And as we've all learned from her success at the Australian Open, that should actually be considered.

Speaker 1 She wanted it while pregnant, right? It should be considered PEDs. I think, what was the explanation that we came up with? There's more blood.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 She's not menstruating anymore. What was that dumb theory?

Speaker 1 No, it ended up being kind of right. Yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 1 So since she doesn't menstruate, there's more high-density red blood cells circling through her body, which can carry the oxygen more efficiently.

Speaker 1 And then, then, like a week after we just made that up, some doctor was like, there's some truth to the fact that if you're just barely pregnant, that your body can operate on a better cardiovascular scale.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, fuck yeah.
She is not retired. She can get pregnant and win another open.
Dude, the thing that I keep going back to, it's like Tiger, when people are like, oh, Tiger's retired.

Speaker 1 You think Tiger or Tiger will retire? You think he won't go to Augusta every year? You think Serena, like, she can just go to Wimbledon, have some fucking strawberries or cream?

Speaker 7 With like golf, golf, you're guaranteed 36-holy golf.

Speaker 4 Like, tennis, you can play at your 60 years old. You lose six love, six love, and it's like, is it worth it?

Speaker 1 I think it still would be fucking cool.

Speaker 7 For golf, you get two full days.

Speaker 1 But she was, she can still, like, she's going to work herself back into shape where she's like, oh, yeah, I'm ready to go.

Speaker 6 She beat the number two.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Right. You don't retire when you do that.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Tom Fernelli.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Tom Fernelli.
We're going to talk some college football. We're going to do a Mount Rushmore.
He's being teamed up with his nemesis, Hank.

Speaker 1 Tom can be found at CBS Sports Cover 3 podcast. He's covering college football.
He is my favorite college football writer. Boom, I just said it.

Speaker 1 I don't think Andy does writing anymore. Sucks.
So I can say that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I can say that.

Speaker 1 All right, so week one, crazy.

Speaker 1 Where do you want to start? I mean, should we just start with Iowa? Because that is the craziest story. Iowa winning seven to three and not scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 9 That's of everything that happened this weekend, Iowa is the one thing you want to talk about.

Speaker 1 Yes, I do. It was incredible.
They punted the same amount of times of first downs they had.

Speaker 9 I saw the stat. I included it in my column today.
Since 2020.

Speaker 9 Iowa has won six games in which it punted at least eight times. The rest of the FBS combined has won two games like that, where they punted at least eight times.

Speaker 1 That's punt to Iowa in a nutshell. So Ference has got to be like, fuck yes.
I'm so pumped to win a game like that, right?

Speaker 1 Like, he would rather win this game this way because he's won every type of football game that you can imagine, given how long that he's coached at Iowa.

Speaker 1 So if he finally gets one where he's got seven points, didn't score an offensive touchdown, and then that stat that you just threw out there, that's got to be like he's got to be kind of happy.

Speaker 9 I don't know if he's happy, but he doesn't seem to give a shit about the offense being terrible.

Speaker 9 See, because it's been terrible for a few years, and the fan base is essentially revolting against the offensive coordinator, who just happens to be his son, Brian.

Speaker 9 And that offense is just, yeah, they didn't score.

Speaker 9 They had, and they started like, I can't remember how many, but a few of their possessions, they started in plus territory, and they still couldn't get any points on the board outside of the one field goal with the two safeties.

Speaker 9 It was just, I think Spencer Petrus's QBR was a 1.1, and I saw from somebody that that's the lowest in the QBR era for a single game for an FBS quarterback.

Speaker 9 It was just, it really was a record-setting performance for the Iowa Hawkeyes.

Speaker 1 It was so bad that I actually like, I had to tune in because I didn't have that game on my radar. And then I was like, wait, what the fuck is going on in here?

Speaker 1 And then, like, when it was five to three, and I was just like, wait, I got to tune into this. And then getting that safety to make it seven is so beautiful.
All right.

Speaker 1 So all jokes aside, biggest takeaway from week one, give it to me.

Speaker 9 I think Georgia is better than last year's team.

Speaker 9 I think that, like, there was the concerns because the defense was last year, was just, you know, it was one of the best defenses we've ever seen at the college level.

Speaker 9 They lose a bunch of players to the NFL, but they still have guys like Jalen Carter on the defensive line. And just the way that they've recruited, you knew the defense was still going to be good.

Speaker 9 You saw Malachi Starks, a five-star freshman, make that one-handed interception on the deep ball. And you're just quickly reminded early in that game that, holy shit, this defense is still nuts.

Speaker 9 It doesn't matter how many guys they lose, they reload. But the difference to me was the offense because they had

Speaker 9 Jermaine Burton transfer. He was like supposed to be their most explosive receiver.
George Pickens was hurt last year for most of the season. He's the big play threat.
He's with the Steelers now.

Speaker 9 Jermaine Burton transfers to Alabama.

Speaker 9 And you're thinking with Stetson Bennett at quarterback, like they still had Brock Bowers, but you were wondering where they were going to be explosive on offense.

Speaker 9 You lose James Cook, you lose Zamir White, you lose all these guys, and you're like, I just, they're still going to be really good defensively, but offensively, will they, will they be able to maintain and be able to compete with the Alabamas and the Ohio states?

Speaker 9 And I mean, Oregon now has been clowned in three straight games against good teams. Like it got clowned twice by Utah last year, and it got absolutely obliterated by Georgia this weekend.

Speaker 9 But when you look at that team defensively, there are five-star players on that defense.

Speaker 9 They've got NFL players in that front seven, and Georgia just completely wiped them from the face of the earth and did every single thing they wanted to.

Speaker 9 So I came into this season thinking Alabama and Ohio State, one of them is going to win the national title.

Speaker 9 Georgia will probably get to the playoff again, but they just don't have the offensive firepower to compete with Alabama and Ohio State, or at least

Speaker 9 beat both of them in a potential playoff scenario. After what I saw on Saturday, I suddenly think that Georgia is probably right up there with those two.

Speaker 1 I now think it's a three-horse race, not just a Darneau Washington should be illegal. Oh, my God.
All the tight ends. I was shocked when I saw him step on the football field for the first time.

Speaker 1 I was like, it should be illegal to possess one of these in the United States because he's, what, 6'8?

Speaker 9 Yeah, he's 5'7? 6'7, 6'8, yeah. And he's pretty much, he's a defensive lineman playing tight end.

Speaker 1 They have four tight ends that are just like, they just roll them out and they just run over people. You're like, wait, who's that guy?

Speaker 1 So I agree with you.

Speaker 1 This is why preseason rankings are so stupid. Georgia won the national title, came out and beat a top 10 team, or I don't know, Oregon might have been 11, wiped them out.
They should be number one.

Speaker 1 My question on the flip side, though, how demoralizing must that be for Oregon?

Speaker 1 Because, like you said, like Mario Cristobal was stacking serious recruiting classes, top 10 recruiting classes, and they get on the field with them and they look like they're, you know, it was like Utah State playing Alabama.

Speaker 1 That's what it looked like.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 it's weird. It's hard to know exactly.
It is demoralizing if you're Oregon because it's too, like you said, they got crushed that game. They got beat up by Utah twice last year.

Speaker 9 And that's a team that's like, it's weird because you think of the identity of Mario Cristobal and just the way he likes to play.

Speaker 9 You see them getting punched in the face and not really responding.

Speaker 9 And it kind of raises an eyebrow because it's like, that's supposed to be a team that wants to get in in there and wants to fight with you.

Speaker 9 And they just look kind of soft in that aspect, to be blunt about it. And it was certainly the case again on Saturday.

Speaker 9 But even Kirby Smart said after the game, because you know, his former defensive coordinator is now the head coach there and Dan Lanning.

Speaker 9 But he said, he's like, you know, we've just got better players than they do, which is like one way to be kind to your opponent, but it's also low-key, kind of just like devastating, a devastating thing to say.

Speaker 9 Well, it's no big deal. We just got better players than they was just a scrimmage for us for the most part.

Speaker 9 But it's, I think, if you're Oregon, you still take solace in the fact that you don't have to play Georgia again.

Speaker 9 And I think that the bigger story is not that Oregon is bad, it's that Georgia, Alabama, and Ohio State have just ascended to a level that is so much better than everybody else that it's really not fair to judge any team based on what you see them do against those three.

Speaker 1 So we're keeping Ohio State in that conversation. Oh, I even after I was actually impressed by them.

Speaker 1 The moral victory by Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 I have a theory, Tom. I would throw this out to you.

Speaker 1 I actually thought that was exactly the game that Ohio State needed because the way they lost to Michigan last year was they got punched in the mouth, bullied.

Speaker 1 They needed to win a game where it wasn't a track meet, where they weren't just ripping off 80-yard touchdowns. They needed to win a game where it's like, oh, we can play Smash Mouth.

Speaker 1 We can play Grind It Out. We can play Body Blow, Body Blow, Body Blow, finish the game out.

Speaker 1 Like, in a weird way, even though they didn't cover the spread, I was like, that showed that Ohio State can, because they'll win a ton of Big Ten games where they win by 60.

Speaker 1 But that was like, I was like, oh, Ohio State, in a weird way, impressed me with the way they won.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and I mean, Notre Dame, let's be clear, Notre Dame played not to get blown out. That was the entire game plan that the Irish had there.

Speaker 9 They were milking as much clock as possible, trying to limit possession.

Speaker 9 So that way, and late in the game, they were thinking, we just let the air out of the ball, keep it close, waste clock, and at the end of the game, we'll have a chance. We'll still be in it.

Speaker 9 We can see what we can do then. So I think that Notre Dame executed its game plan very well.
Defensively, they're still a very good team.

Speaker 9 And I think on the other side of the ball, offensively, yeah, Ohio State did not look like the Ohio State we expected.

Speaker 9 I was saying, you know, all preseason leading up to this game and all offseason, like this is a team that's going to score 40 points per game. The key is whether or not you can keep up.

Speaker 9 And most people can't. And they didn't do that, obviously.

Speaker 9 But it's like we dismiss Garrett Wilson and Chris Dalave both leaving and being first-round picks because they still have guys like Jackson Smith and Jigba. They have Julian Fleming.

Speaker 9 They have Marvin Harrison Jr. They have Ameka Agbuka.
But Julian Fleming was hurt.

Speaker 9 Jackson Smith and Jigba gets hurt in the first series and doesn't really come back and he's ineffective when he's out there.

Speaker 9 So now if you think about it this way, Ohio State's playing without its top four receivers from last season going into this game against a team that's ranked number five and has a very good defense.

Speaker 9 And they looked out of sync offensively until the second half when they finally got things going. Ameka Abuka kind of came forward as the alpha guy for CJ Stroud.
He got into a rhythm.

Speaker 9 They started figuring things out. But like you were saying, too, for me, philosophically, one of the problems Ryan Day has had with Ohio State is he just refuses to run the ball sometimes.

Speaker 9 And there are times when Ohio State is able to run the ball against a team and they just go away from it. They get pass happy and it hurts them.
He didn't do that on Saturday.

Speaker 9 He knew that running the ball was his best option. He kept feeding Mayan Williams.
He kept feeding Treveon Henderson.

Speaker 9 And on the other side, the defense, that was what's really been missing from Ohio State the last few years.

Speaker 9 Kerry Combs was basically, they ran two defenses like for the last two years, cover one or cover three. That was really all you saw from Ohio State.
Teams knew that.

Speaker 9 And their thought process was, we're so good that it doesn't really matter what we do on defense because we're just more talented than most of the teams we were playing.

Speaker 9 But when they would run into Oregon or Michigan in the snow, teams that were able to exploit it because they had the talent and the speed to do so, they got burnt.

Speaker 9 So Jim Knowles comes in from Oklahoma State as a new defensive coordinator, and Ohio State's doing all sorts of wild shit.

Speaker 9 Like, you know, Zach Harris and their pass rusher is dropping back into coverage on multiple plays. I can't remember the last time I saw an Ohio State defensive lineman drop into coverage.

Speaker 9 They were just disguising things before the snap. They were going up against a young quarterback, confusing the living shit out of him.
He had no idea what he was seeing before the snap.

Speaker 9 He had no idea what he was seeing after the snap. And that's the one thing.

Speaker 9 thing I think that has kept Ohio State from really being a national title contender the last couple of years is we know they could score points. It was just defensively when it mattered.

Speaker 9 They weren't there. And last on Saturday was the first time in a while that I saw an indicator that this team defensively is going to be good enough to compete for a title.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And where are we at on CJ Stroud?

Speaker 9 I think he's, I mean, him and Bryce Young are the two best quarterbacks in the country. I think that they will be Heisman finalists.
I think they will be in.

Speaker 9 I think it's a slow start for Stroud, but by the time the year ends, as long as everybody on that offense is healthy, he's going to put up ridiculous numbers.

Speaker 9 And the question is going to be, does Bryce Young put up the kind of numbers to where people are willing to give it to him in back-to-back years and bryce young against utah state on saturday utah state a team that won the mountain west last year alabama beat him 55 to nothing and they took they you know they kind of just called off the dogs after a while it was 55 nothing quick and bryce young had over you know 200 something yards passing he rushed for 100 yards and that has always been a thing with me with bryce young because he is so skinny but like he's always been hesitant to run at times where i feel like he could just easily pick up first downs and he'll sit in the pocket and you know maybe end up throwing the ball away and it's like bro if you just take off, it's a first down.

Speaker 9 That was not the case against Utah State. He took off running.
I do still kind of worry. It's like, I don't think he should run as often as he did on Saturday, but he had so much room to move.

Speaker 9 I don't think he was too worried about it. But he's kind of adding that element to his game this year.

Speaker 9 And if he does, maybe that's the one thing that he needs to do to become the first back-to-back Heisman winner since Adrian Griffin.

Speaker 1 I find myself rooting for CJ Stroud just so I can be like, Ohio State quarterbacks are good. That's it's fucked up.

Speaker 1 But I'm literally like, I'm hoping he's good just to be like, Yes,

Speaker 1 and Justin Fields will be good because C.J. Stroud's good.
Yeah, that's how it works. It all works out.
They come from the same system. Yeah, you can

Speaker 1 judge the products like that. Well, sticking in the SEC real quick, you were talking about Bryce.

Speaker 1 Big game. Big game happened the other night.
I don't know if you saw it. It was kind of a crazy one.

Speaker 1 What is Brian Kelly's buyout right now?

Speaker 9 Listen,

Speaker 9 LSU fans are nuts. You guys know that just as well as anybody.
They are going to be going crazy. And that is, just to be clear, it's it's a weird cultural fit.

Speaker 9 Like it never, it hasn't made sense to me, but LSU's win total going into the season was seven. Like, let's not, it's like, that is exactly what that team was supposed to be.

Speaker 9 Like, Florida State fans are feeling great after winning that game, and they should be because that is just the kind of game Florida State hasn't been able to win.

Speaker 9 And frankly, when LSU is coming back at the end, that looked a little too familiar for Florida State fans because there's been too many times they've been in that situation and they've blown it.

Speaker 9 But, you know, block the extra point, win the game, you feel great.

Speaker 9 But neither of those teams is very good like lsu is going to be seven and five florida state's going to be seven and five maybe eight and four in the acc

Speaker 9 so it's it's it's definitely not a great start for mike kelly because it's like it's one thing if you lose and you just get outplayed but they did i mean that was some like nebraska special teams level shit from last season just the two muffed punts the missed extra point the missed field goal just stupid stupid stuff and it's like if they don't get that wrapped up quickly and then you got the kayshan booty deleting all the lsu stuff from his instagram account they got to get that figured out quick, or it could be, you know, LSU.

Speaker 9 They're not exactly, they don't wait around to pull a trigger if they don't want to.

Speaker 1 Well, in good news, Brian Kelly spent, you know, I don't know, 45 seconds of his post-game press conference bashing the kid who fumbled twice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it will all go well.

Speaker 1 What I thought was the most interesting part about that was he was going out of his way to say, like, yeah, that kid blew it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But ultimately, it's on us as coaches for not realizing how bad he was

Speaker 1 and then putting him back there. So that's on us for not recognizing.
He did a good job of tricking us into thinking he was good.

Speaker 1 It was pure Brian Kelly. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Wait, we got to talk. I mean, listen, Tom, you're very good at

Speaker 1 college football, but Hank does have you beat because he had Anthony Richardson as his Heisman, I don't know, 12 months ago. So, I mean, that was an insane call.

Speaker 1 He is, he, and I mean this in the best way, like, he is is such an awesome college quarterback.

Speaker 1 I, he could be a great pro, too, but that, like, two-point conversion pump fake, that was college football. You know what I mean? Like, that was college football, and that game was so electric.

Speaker 1 So, do you want to apologize to Hank for you know being way behind on this?

Speaker 9 I just want to give Hank all the credit for being smart enough and having the foresight to realize that we had something special in our midst, and he recognized it before anybody else.

Speaker 9 So, kudos to him for doing it. But, Anthony Richardson is like, he's got cult hero like potential of just being the guy that every college football fan loves to watch.

Speaker 9 Like I saw there were comparisons being made on Twitter during that game. Like I saw people say, he reminds me of Vince Young.
He reminds me of Cam Newton.

Speaker 9 And it's like, all right, let's pump the brakes a little bit there.

Speaker 9 But I understand where it's coming from because, like you said, the plays that he was making and the stuff that he can do as a quarterback is just,

Speaker 9 it's not something you see a lot of guys in the country capable of doing. And he's not, you know, your prototypical NFL passer.

Speaker 9 He's not going to sit there and just throw beautiful darts down the field and look like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields or C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young.
But he makes things happen.

Speaker 9 And that's a very unique talent. And it's not something you find a lot.
And he's the kind of guy that can elevate an entire team.

Speaker 9 So this is a Florida team that suddenly didn't really have high expectations. And I also kind of worry, like for Billy Napier, it's his first game at Florida.
Your first game, you're at home.

Speaker 9 You beat a top 10 team in Utah. Like, will that raise expectations too quickly for him and for Richardson? That would be something I'd be worried about.
But I also think that he's talented enough.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's not like he came from nowhere, he's a five-star prospect from Gainesville. So, I think that he's got the ability to really improve that team.

Speaker 9 I think defensively, they got a little bit to work on still, and that could be their downfall against some of the better teams in the SEC.

Speaker 9 But the Gators, they might, you know, I feel like people are a little too easily hyping up Tennessee and Kentucky in the offseason as like the second-best team in the SEC East.

Speaker 9 I think Florida is very much in play to be that team.

Speaker 1 But what you you just said, Kentucky plus three and a half on Saturday night, I mean, that's

Speaker 9 issues there.

Speaker 1 We got to find out about it. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 But Florida had, like, I always just play by the rule: if you had a game on campus that the entire team most likely is partying for like four days, just go against them the next week.

Speaker 1 Because they are college kids and they deserve to party, but that was such an electric night.

Speaker 9 No, that's perfectly reasonable take, and it is still Florida in the last few years. It wouldn't exactly be a shock to see them call kind of fall flat on their face the week after a big win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but then that would just set them up perfectly to play against Tennessee.
And like you said, everybody's saying, oh, this is Tennessee's year, and then Florida beats them by 30.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of where this is going.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I love Tennessee. That offense is really fun, but I feel like Vols fans are ignoring the fact that that team scored like 40 points per game last year and went seven and six.

Speaker 9 So it's like the defense is still a pretty big problem for that team. And I need to see that defense take a step forward before I really trust them.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to take Tennessee plus 21 against Alabama and have it be like 28-0

Speaker 1 to start the game.

Speaker 1 I did it again. I did it again.
Wasn't Tennessee beating Alabama in the second half last year?

Speaker 1 I feel like they were. They were definitely inside the number.

Speaker 9 I remember Florida was giving Alabama hell for a while. I don't know if, I can't remember if Tennessee.

Speaker 1 I think Tennessee was giving Georgia. Tennessee, I think, fucked with Alabama.

Speaker 1 But then Alabama put it away with like 10 minutes left. They scored like four touchdowns.
I think they might have.

Speaker 1 I think they might have.

Speaker 1 That's a Tennessee fan's life right there.

Speaker 1 You can't ask me to differentiate between these losses.

Speaker 1 They're all heartbreaking in their own ways. I want to say it was like maybe 14-14 to start the game.
And then it was. Yeah, I'm looking up at the box right now.
It was 14-7, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 And then it ended 52-24. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They had a quarter. They had a quarter.
Okay, so speaking of

Speaker 1 moral victories against Alabama, what does Texas have to keep it within this weekend? So the spread's spread's 20. We just looked it up.

Speaker 1 Quinn Ewers, by the way, I feel like Mike Leach just looks at Quinn Ewers and is like,

Speaker 1 how did I not get my hands on you, boy?

Speaker 9 Didn't have the NIL money.

Speaker 9 Moral victory, honestly, if they could cover the spread, that's a moral victory. If Quinn Ewers just actually looks good.
in the game.

Speaker 9 Like if they lose, but Quinn Ewers plays well, I think if you're a Texas fan, you're feeling pretty damn good about where you stand in the Big 12 going forward and offensively.

Speaker 9 But I'd also like to see defensively if they're capable of doing anything because they're a lot like Tennessee. I was just talking about offensively last year.

Speaker 9 I don't think Texas really had any problems. They've got really good players on offense.
They have really good players on offense this year.

Speaker 9 Defensively, they couldn't stop anybody that was worth a damn. So that's going to be a key situation for that game, which is why I probably won't take them to cover the spread.

Speaker 9 But I don't think it's impossible that Texas is going to be able to move the ball and put up points on Alabama.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like it.
All right. What was your other big surprise or takeaway from week one?

Speaker 9 The biggest biggest takeaway was that i did not realize indiana had the money to pay officials like they did on friday night to take away that touchdown but other than that honestly this is like a very like minor thing but i was surprised by how bad louisville looked like this is a team that i had high expectations for coming in the year and they went on the road to syracuse and just got the shit kicked out of them which i did not see coming it's like if they'd lost that was one thing but just how hapless they looked in that game and it's an interesting situation for me just trying to think forward because scott satterfield is already kind of not on a hot seat, but kind of a moderate seat.

Speaker 9 And now it's going to be heating up. And then I look at Purdue, a team that I feel like is not going to live up to the expectations placed on it after going nine and four last year.

Speaker 9 We saw them lose to Penn State on Thursday night. And I just kind of looking at my crystal ball and I see a situation in which Scott Satterfield is going to end up losing his job there.

Speaker 9 And Jeff Braum is going to be leaving Purdue to return to Louisville, which is just something I feel like has been in the works for years already.

Speaker 1 Scott Satterfield, to remind people, when he was asked what his favorite part about Louisville was, he said the airport. Literally getting out of town.
He's like, the airport's pretty close.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, cool, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the Illinois game, I was texting with Tom during it because I had Illinois, and it went from... like us rooting, you know, he's obviously went to Illinois.

Speaker 1 He's like, come on, Illinois, let's do it to finally just being like, fuck you, Tom. I hate your stupid football team.
What the fuck just happened? That was,

Speaker 1 I watched two big 10 games. I had Purdue and Illinois.
They basically went the exact same, where it was like like one team should have won and it's just like, oh, here we go again.

Speaker 1 This game is slipping away.

Speaker 9 It's great when you look at like the nerd box scores afterwards that do all the like, this is what should have happened based on what happened in the game.

Speaker 9 There was one that had Illinois' post-game win expectancy at 90% and another that had it at 66%.

Speaker 1 That's a pretty big delta there. Yeah.
Fuck you.

Speaker 9 I mean, they should be 2-0, but they.

Speaker 9 They hurt themselves and the refs really, really just, I mean, I have no idea how the hell they decided that wasn't a catch, but, you know, know, refs, it's week one for the refs too, boys.

Speaker 9 Week one for the refs, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's week one for the refs. Yeah, that catch was, that was

Speaker 1 too. Bielam is a guy that, like,

Speaker 1 a ref loves to stick it to him. You can tell.
Yeah. He's got that face on the sidelines.
It's like,

Speaker 1 they almost see him as so much of a threat that they want to go out of their way to not get bullied by him. So they bully him first.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but like if you watch like Brett, you know, he doesn't really get on him too bad compared to Tom Allen. Tom Allen looked like he was going to have a heart attack.
He was screaming at him.

Speaker 9 He was going full Brian Kelly during that game, yelling at the officials, which is weird because Tom Allen kind of just doesn't seem like that kind of person. But man, he's on the sidelines.

Speaker 9 He gets angry.

Speaker 1 Now I'm getting even more mad again about it because Indiana football fans, Indiana basketball fans, whatever, like, and I have a lot of friends who went to Indiana, but Indiana football fans, there's a few online that are just the most unrealistic people ever.

Speaker 1 They won a few games in the COVID year, and they're like, this is the changing of the guard. Some guy tried to be like, yeah, remember Wisconsin, Indiana last time we played?

Speaker 1 And I pulled up the last 10, and I had forgot that Wisconsin put 82 on them once. Like, what are we talking about here? So, what really sucks, Tom?

Speaker 9 What really sucks is like, I think Indiana basketball is probably going to be pretty good this year.

Speaker 9 So, Illinois football not getting that win, just I probably could have used that a few months from now just to kind of hold on to, but now they're going to be able to lord that one over my head, too.

Speaker 1 I play that same game where it's like, you gotta, you gotta win one or the other. You can't lose both because

Speaker 1 you just can't lose both. You can't do it.

Speaker 1 I have a take.

Speaker 1 We didn't have you on preseason, but I have Oklahoma as my dark horse fourth team because everyone, like you said, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, write them in.

Speaker 1 Utah was a team that a lot of people were talking about.

Speaker 1 That probably didn't eliminate them because they played Florida very tough. But

Speaker 1 what do you think about Oklahoma? Obviously, they killed Total. I don't even remember.
UTEP? No. Yeah, UTEP.
Killed UTEP.

Speaker 1 Are you buying Oklahoma or are you thinking it's going to be the same old Oklahoma and they lose some random game they shouldn't lose and that disqualifies them?

Speaker 9 It's very much in play.

Speaker 9 I'm not selling them.

Speaker 9 I'm just not fully on board because I think that part of me was just there was some natural reaction to like Oklahoma fans acting like it wasn't a big deal that Lincoln Riley left for USC and took Caleb Williams and all these other guys with him.

Speaker 9 Like, whatever. Lincoln sucked anyway.
The team is going to shit with him. We don't need him.
But, like, there is some truth in that Brent Venables.

Speaker 9 You know, like, one of the bigger problems Oklahoma's had in recent years is on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 9 And you know that with Brent Venables in charge, the defense is going to improve and be good. And then Jeff Leby comes in with an offensive system that is not exactly, you know, bad.

Speaker 9 He's put up points everywhere he's gone. He was the most recently it'll miss.
And you bring in Dylan Gabriel, who is familiar with the system. So it's like you look at that team going into the year.

Speaker 9 And even though it's a lot of new faces and guys you might not recognize that haven't been there, they're going to score a lot of points.

Speaker 9 That was the one thing against UTEP, because UTEP is not what I would call a great team, but UTEP is not as bad as it has been in recent years.

Speaker 9 You know, they got to a bowl game last year and Oklahoma just clowned them. I mean, there was really, they barely broke a sweat just beating up on them on Saturday and the offense looked sharp.

Speaker 9 It looked good. They look like they're going to score a ton of points.

Speaker 9 If that defense takes the step forward, like I expect, 200 Vennibles and that coaching staff, I think they're the favorite in the Big 12.

Speaker 9 But like you said, the key will be, can they avoid the stupid loss? Because I look at the Big 12 this year and I don't think, like, I think Baylor is still good. I think Oklahoma is the best team.

Speaker 9 I don't think Texas is going to be great. I don't know who else in that conference is going to be great.

Speaker 9 So I just don't know that they're going to have a resume if they suffer a loss that's not a, you know, like ridiculous, really close game loss against either Baylor or Texas or whoever.

Speaker 9 If it's a bad loss, I just don't know if they'll be able to overcome it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, let's play a quick game real quick.
It's called which one of these ACC teams that barely won is the least fraudulent? First up, we're going to go NC State over ECU. Kicker missed that.

Speaker 1 Was it an extra point? No, he missed an extra point. Then he missed the field goal.
Then he missed the field goal. He missed two of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going to go with UNC, App State, the craziest fourth quarter maybe in the history of college football. Gene Chizzwick.
And then, you know what? Let's just toss Clemson in here.

Speaker 1 Clemson's going to win by, I'm first reporting seven points. It's going to be 7-0 Clemson over Georgia Tech.
So let's just assume that score will hold up.

Speaker 1 So which one of those three ACs? Giving them sevens a lot is the biggest fraud.

Speaker 1 This is tough because they're ranked them from most fraudulent to least fraudulent.

Speaker 9 Most fraudulent. North Carolina, Clemson, and NC State.

Speaker 9 North Carolina, first of all, I want to start by saying I think Drake May, their new quarterback,

Speaker 9 is really good.

Speaker 9 I think that he's not just putting up numbers against bad defenses. I I think that he's just, he's probably, I think, an upgrade over Sam Howell.
No offense.

Speaker 9 I know that he's with your commanders now, but I think that they've got a better quarterback now.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Was Drake May? Was he ranked number one going into the season in a mock draft and many mock drafts that were published on the internet? Sam Howell was.

Speaker 9 He might be next year because he's new to the next year.

Speaker 1 So let's hold off before we make these comparisons.

Speaker 9 But their defense is so,

Speaker 9 so bad. Like they can't, they couldn't stop App State.
Last week, they couldn't stop Florida AM. And like Jackson State Deion's team beat them like, what, 52 to three?

Speaker 9 And Fam U is putting up like 30 something on North Carolina. That defense is bad.
They are, they're, they're going to lose a lot of games, but I would just take the North Carolina over every week.

Speaker 9 I think that's something we should all be focusing on. Clemson, yeah, based on what we're seeing so far tonight, looks exactly the same as last year.

Speaker 9 Like, it's going to, you're going to have to score 20 points on it to beat it. The key is going to be, can you score 20 points? Most teams won't be able to, but some will.

Speaker 9 And then NC State, that was a bad performance, but ECU is a tough place to play. And I think the bigger problem that North Carolina faced and NC State faced and we saw Virginia Tech face is

Speaker 9 why the fuck are you scheduling non-con games on the road against good G5 programs? And North Carolina is doing it again this week. They're playing Georgia State again this week.

Speaker 9 So after barely hanging on to beat App State, they're going on the road again for no reason to play Georgia State. It's just stupid scheduling.

Speaker 9 When you are the ACC and your reputation is already in the toilet, don't make things harder on yourself than they already are. Just play FCS teams in November like the SEC does.

Speaker 9 We can all make fun of them for it when it happens, but they're getting 10 teams into the bowls every single year. They're getting two teams into the playoff.

Speaker 9 It's almost like there's a reason that they do it, and maybe the ACC should take note.

Speaker 1 Why did they do that with Virginia Tech and ODU in week one? Like playing at ODU makes zero sense. I mean, the North Carolina one was even more shocking to me because you're playing literally

Speaker 1 a school in your state that has been better than you at football. It's crazy.
Well, that same argument. Yeah, ODU.
Well, ODU, yeah, it was better last year, but like App State's been good for a while.

Speaker 9 It's like charity and nobility pretty much. It's like they think it's

Speaker 9 the right thing to do to play a road game at the smaller in-state school to help, you know, generate revenue for them and sell tickets.

Speaker 9 But like there's a very thin line in like, you know, being gracious and being an idiot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think people didn't realize that ODU's sick sick blue uniforms, those are worth 10 points a year. And the dog with the crocs.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 1 They have a mascot with dog crocs. I mean, that was it right there.
That was the game.

Speaker 1 All right, Tom, before we do the Mount Rushmore, one last question. College football.
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Speaker 1 Classic college football, they, they, they do, they change finally the playoff system to 12 on the Friday of Labor Day.

Speaker 1 What was your initial time? Are you a 12-team guy? I hope you are because you aren't.

Speaker 9 I want to go back to the VCS.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 fuck. Two teams here.

Speaker 1 Come on. I just...

Speaker 9 I'm not, listen, I'm going to watch. It's the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 9 It's not like I'm not going to watch. I'm not going to ignore it and be like, it's stupid.
It's just, I feel like a 12-team playoff is,

Speaker 9 my problem isn't with the playoff as much as it's with the attention that it gets.

Speaker 9 Because like, if you go around the country this weekend, the best games were Pitt W, West Virginia, Purdue, Penn State, Houston, UTSA, Florida State, LSU.

Speaker 9 None of these teams are probably competing for a playoff spot this year.

Speaker 9 And the one playoff game that you saw this weekend, or a possible playoff game that you saw, was Georgia, Oregon, because that was an 11-seed versus a three-seed.

Speaker 9 And you see the gap that exists between the teams at the top and those next tier teams.

Speaker 9 Like there is a clear first tier of teams, and it just drives me insane when so much of the conversation is then focused around the college football playoff.

Speaker 9 And all of a sudden, if a team loses a game, the rest of their season no longer matters because they're not going to get to the playoff.

Speaker 9 And the argument for it now is that, well, if you have 12 teams, six highest-ranked conference champs, six lat-large, more fan bases are going to have interesting games played in November.

Speaker 9 That's going to work for two years. And then if you're a Baylor fan or if you're a Wisconsin fan,

Speaker 1 eight playoffs, eight playoffs in the last 25 years.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but you're getting the shit kicked out of you every year you get there.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, you're saying to yourself, you know what?

Speaker 9 I think I'd rather be playing South Carolina in an outback bowl and winning that game than losing by 35 to Georgia.

Speaker 1 Okay, listen, you made some decent points. The counterpoint I would have is home playoff game.

Speaker 1 That's going to rule. That's going to rule.

Speaker 9 That is the one saving grace of this plan in that you might see like Georgia have to go to Madison to play Wisconsin or Alabama have to go north to play Ohio State and Columbus, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 9 And those games will be in December. This isn't like going to be a September game in Wisconsin.
It's going to be December. It is going to be 15 degrees with seven inches of snow on the ground.

Speaker 9 So that could bring an element of chaos that you haven't seen, but I like that.

Speaker 9 It's just most times, 90% of the time, it is still going to be the same two, three, or four teams that are reaching the championship game.

Speaker 1 Why don't we just set aside the top four seeds and then have the other eight teams play in a tournament to see who gets to advance

Speaker 1 to the semifinal rounds or to the, I guess it would be the round of eight, wouldn't it? I'm trying to figure out how to protect the institutional powerhouses so that we don't have to buys.

Speaker 1 They're all going to have buys. Is that how a 12-game playoff works? Four teams have buys, which actually.
Okay, so at least we won't see the blowouts right away. Right away, yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be very funny because the four teams that have buys won't get home playoff games, and they're going to, that's going to change because they're going to get so pissed.

Speaker 1 Like, Alabama's going to be like, wait, we want a home playoff game and all this money. Why don't we get one? We're too good to get a home playoff game.
That's fucked up.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and that's also too, it's like, it's weird to me that I understand why Notre Dame's part of it, but Notre Dame can never get a first-round buy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was actually by design because now they just always will have a home playoff game.

Speaker 1 They're always going to be ranked between five and eight.

Speaker 9 It's like you kind of respect that they're like, you know what?

Speaker 9 We're probably not winning many national titles right now anyway, so let's just cash in and get an extra home game out of it at the very least.

Speaker 1 Every year, every year they will have it's actually genius.

Speaker 1 I mean, like the fact of the matter is a 12-game playoff, it's going to be good because there's going to be more actual, meaningful games on that we can like trick ourselves into believing that they're meaningful until they do play against Alabama or Georgia and get their ass kicked in the final four.

Speaker 1 Four. But it's still in the moment, it's meaningful, right? That's good for something.

Speaker 9 Yeah, except we're all still stupid. So, like, five years after it starts, we're going to want to expand it to 16.
And then we're going to want to get 10.

Speaker 9 It's just because it's going to be like, yeah, 12 is not enough. This is getting boring.
It's the same teams every year. We need to expand to get more variety.

Speaker 1 Crazy idea. What if you did a 64-team tournament? Oh, nobody's going to be able to do that.
But that would never work. No, then you got to expand that to 68.

Speaker 1 And you have a couple games that get played the day before that tournament starts.

Speaker 9 This all speaks to a philosophical difference between basketball and football.

Speaker 9 The March Madness has Cinderellas because in a basketball game, there are fewer players on the court. So there's more variance.
Like a team can make a run.

Speaker 9 A few shots can go in, a few shots cannot go in, and it changes things. That doesn't happen in a football game because it's 11 on 11 and the more talented teams win.

Speaker 9 Like the Cinderella stories in football happen during the regular season. Cincinnati was the Cinderella story just getting to the playoff.

Speaker 9 UTSA was a Cinderella story last year coming out of nowhere and competing for its conference. That happens in the regular season every single year.

Speaker 9 It doesn't have to be a postseason run to be a Cinderella story.

Speaker 1 What about this?

Speaker 1 What about this? We just talked about Tennessee going up 14-7 against Alabama. Cinderella story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if we do 614-team playoff, but the entire first three rounds are just one quarter of football?

Speaker 1 That would be cool.

Speaker 9 That's, you know, and we could spin it as player safety.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Right.
And then you can have just like, and you could play like two days after. You know what I mean? You can just play one quarter.

Speaker 1 in the week yeah right that would be sick if if alabama had to play against let's just throw out the entire top 10 right so none of those teams but every team that's ranked number 11 through call it a hundred in college football right now how many teams could get out to a lead against alabama all you have to do to beat alabama is just get a lead it can be seven it can be three it can be two but if you just have a higher score than them boom that's a win if we give them the ball first

Speaker 9 coin flip coin flip oh see that changes things If you give them the ball first, I think there's a decent chance that a few of them could. If it's a coin flip,

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 9 I'd say 20 are capable. 10 would.

Speaker 1 All right, so here's another idea. What if we just played a college football playoff, but it's against the point spread? So if you lose by 24 and the point spread was 27, you advance.

Speaker 1 Who sets the spread?

Speaker 1 Vegas.

Speaker 9 Vegas.

Speaker 1 I think if I'd be okay with it. That would be so much fun to be like, oh, Alabama won by 41, but the spread was 42, so they don't advance.

Speaker 9 What if that's, you know, let's just keep this hold on. What if that's just an ex-professional sports league? Like, it is.
Like, wins and losses aren't based on the actual results.

Speaker 9 It's based on whether you cover the spread.

Speaker 1 That would be so frustrating to be on a really good team.

Speaker 1 It would actually suck so bad. I would much rather be on the worst team in the league and then just stumble my way into a victory every now and again.

Speaker 1 The Bears could maybe make the playoffs this year.

Speaker 9 The NFL adds a new wild card team for the team that went the best ATS record that didn't make any teams.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on, those are always the teams that everyone loves the most.

Speaker 1 They are the darn stories. Would it be funner if the teams did know or didn't know that they were playing against the spread? Yeah, I think you have to reveal.

Speaker 1 Maybe you do like a big reveal at halftime. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You reveal it after the game. You get both teams on the field, and it's like the ref has each coach has their hand in their hand like it's a UFC official.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You unveil the cards and then you raise Nick Saban's hand.

Speaker 9 Do like a price is right showcase showdown where you have to be the closest bidder to the spread without going over, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then every team has to hire like an analytics department that's just

Speaker 1 bookmakers. See, now we're creating jobs.
Look at us.

Speaker 9 We're coming up with these sports leagues. We're stimulating the economy.
We should probably cut this out of the show and keep it going.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Tom, I do have one more question before we get to the Mount Rushmore because you are on the low man trophy committee.
I was wondering if you had any thoughts going into the season.

Speaker 1 What fullbacks would be on your watch list? Good question.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's the same as usual. Like

Speaker 9 Monty Pottybaum, what's his name? The kid from Indiana. Does Sean Shivers count as a fullback? Because he's built like a fullback, but Indiana doesn't really use a fullback.

Speaker 9 I think he's somebody that should get special consideration. He transferred from Auburn.
He looked pretty sturdy against the Illini on Friday.

Speaker 9 Dan, who are your Wisconsin fullbacks this year?

Speaker 1 Is Chenel still there?

Speaker 1 I think Rhett Meester is still there.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Chanel's not there.
I think there's like a younger Chanel. Yeah, there might be.

Speaker 9 With the COVID, it is so hard to keep track of who still has eligibility left.

Speaker 9 Every single game you're watching, there's a 25-year-old quarterback. It's just getting nuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Army still has the Buchanan ball.

Speaker 1 Pottabom's got to be the, I think he's the name on everybody's lips this preseason.

Speaker 9 If he just picks up another couple of safeties, oh boy, nobody's going to be able to stop him.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 Like, he could actually make a disproportionately large impact on his team's offense compared to other fullbacks in the game where, okay, he might get a couple good blocks, but if he scores two touchdowns this year, that's probably 50% of Iowa's team total.

Speaker 9 What's fucked up is I think there are now more fullbacks in the NFL than there are in the FBS level of college football, or at least teams using fullbacks regularly. And that's kind of scary to me.

Speaker 1 That is fucked up. That's the population chart.
That's a nightmare. All right, so our fullbacks, I mean, this guy is just meant to be a Wisconsin fullback.
He's from Milwaukee. Riley Noakowski.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's right.

Speaker 9 Does he have a mustache? Because that's the name.

Speaker 1 I feel like he was born with a mustache. Very fullbacky name.
And then Zach Gludman,

Speaker 1 who's definitely a fullback as well.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he loves Lute Fisk right there.

Speaker 1 Zach Gludman. I just still, I still love the days when Matt Bernstein ran for like 125 yards against Penn State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, long, yeah. Rhett Meester was, I can't remember remember how many years ago, but yeah, Wisconsin has just, you know, fullback you.

Speaker 1 Who was that fullback on Florida State that got that touchdown last night? Oh, oh,

Speaker 1 he's their linebacker, but they used him as a fullback. That was cool.
I cannot remember his name, but I know who you're talking about. Yeah, that's a fullback highlight play of the year.

Speaker 1 Put a pin that one. The guy will never say that.

Speaker 9 Actually, that's a question I have for you, just a point of order. How many snaps does a guy have to have at fullback to count?

Speaker 1 I think less better.

Speaker 1 So that's a good question question because there was some disambiguation last year.

Speaker 1 Hayward, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was at Michigan State.

Speaker 9 He was tight end, H-back. They put him in the slot sometimes.
He played fullback. He played everywhere.

Speaker 1 I think the fact that he looked like a fullback, he had that like fire hydrant type build. And his dad was red Hayward.

Speaker 9 I feel like that's a legacy choice.

Speaker 1 Exactly, yeah. And he just had that proportion where he looked like he was a like squished together gummy bear, just like a compressed gummy bear.

Speaker 1 It's not an exact science, but it's like pornography. You know what? Yeah, you know it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. DJ Lundy was the name.
I just looked it up. There we go.
That was a linebacker who scored as a fullback for Florida State. Okay, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 Okay, any other fullbacks? I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 9 It's hard to know, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll know when we see them.

Speaker 1 Okay, so basically, the preseason watch list is every Wisconsin fullback, Army,

Speaker 1 every Army player.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say, like, not just running backs in Army. The entire Army roster is on the watch list.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 I'm going to say

Speaker 1 somebody from Arizona State. Arizona State probably has one.

Speaker 9 Herm probably has one, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got fullbacks. He's probably going to mullet right now.
He might not even use him, but he has one.

Speaker 9 He might have transferred out, though.

Speaker 1 They lost a lot of guys to the portal.

Speaker 1 Herm carries a fullback, like a handgun. He's got it in the case.
He probably isn't going to take it out, but if he needs it, he will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.

Speaker 9 What do you think it's like to be a fullback in the transfer portal? Like, how many people are calling you?

Speaker 1 Well, you call, you just go, you go to Madison and you just are like, I'm here.

Speaker 9 Any quarterback that enters the portal gets like 10 calls within 20 minutes. Like a fullback just sitting there, like, whistling to himself, crossed his fingers.
Somebody's going to call.

Speaker 1 I think you just go and start like squatting outside Paul Chris's office. And like, hopefully this works.
And it usually probably would.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's do it. Mount Rushmore.
This is the finale of Mount Rushmore season. So, Team Hank has been an abject failure,

Speaker 1 just completely completely shit to bed the last week. So he's bringing in his counterpart.
A lot of times people say that Tom steals his takes from Hank.

Speaker 1 And we figured, let's do the Mount Rushmore of Italians because Tom is a proud Italian. I'm wearing my shirt that says not Italian, but supportive.
Both my children are quarter Italian.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I can make those. I can make any joke I want.
I did a 23 and me, Tom, I'm 1% Sicilian. There we go.

Speaker 1 That's your angry side. So can I say the G word?

Speaker 1 You can.

Speaker 9 I don't know if you should say it on the show, but you can say it to me.

Speaker 1 You can text it to me and I'll say it because, as I said, a father of two of a quarter Italians. So I can say anything I want to.
But you're not, but you're not personally. I'm personally not.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I helped create two quarter Italian kids, so I'm allowed to say whatever I want.

Speaker 9 I think you're in. I think if you help create more Italians, that just makes you Italian.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 I'm setting. All All right, so just the ground rules.
We're doing

Speaker 1 the greatest Italians.

Speaker 1 Should we all just agree that we're going to let Billy take Mussolini? Oh, come on. Oh, sorry, David.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Jesus. That was your pick, wasn't it? That was your 1-1? No.
What's wrong with Mussolini, Billy?

Speaker 9 Why don't you want Mussolini?

Speaker 1 Well, he wasn't even the best

Speaker 1 dictator in

Speaker 1 the world. On your power rankings of Central European dictators dictators of the late 30s or 30s.
No, no, I'm just talking about Italy. I'm just talking about Italy.

Speaker 1 There's much better, there's a much better dictator. He wasn't even the best fascist.
Yeah, he was terrible. Oh, man.

Speaker 9 Trains weren't on time, Billy.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Speaker 9 That was really the biggest problem he was facing at the time.

Speaker 1 I don't know how I've gotten this label. Yeah, but you wear it well.
All right. We're going to, I think we won the last one.
We did.

Speaker 1 Should we let Team Hank and Tom pick? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
All right. So let's go around the room.
So you guys can go first.

Speaker 1 Team Jilly can go second, and we will go third.

Speaker 5 Tom, I think you should

Speaker 5 explain the first pick. Tom sent me a text, and I was very much on board with what his strategy was, and I think it plays, but

Speaker 1 I'll let him get the shot. By the way, we should just say Tom did fully cheat.
He tweeted out, like, I'm thinking about the best Italians, so he basically just crowdsourced it.

Speaker 1 He did ask me.

Speaker 9 I have to crowdsource Italians.

Speaker 1 Listen, it was a cheating maneuver, and you also fell for the trap because you texted me before. You're like, is it cool if I tweet this? And I was

Speaker 1 knowing I would bring this up to fuck Team Hank. I was like, yeah, go ahead, dude.
Tweet it. Blatant cheating.

Speaker 9 I didn't want to spoil the topic. I didn't know the rules for Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 9 I think, obviously, 1-1. is a pretty obvious choice for our board.
He's one of the greatest Italians alive, still alive today. Does a great job representing us on television.

Speaker 1 i'm going to take mike to rico oh nice pick very good pick italian mike

Speaker 1 yes yes great individual very italian very italian italian perver both that's really the oh he checks all the boxes big time pervert everything you're looking for in italian yes all right uh team jilly

Speaker 1 we're going with james gandolfini

Speaker 1 that was going to be our first pick good pick good pick okay like gandolfini or or tony Soprano?

Speaker 1 Are we discerning between?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. You got to pick one or the other.

Speaker 1 Guys, Max, Jake, any input?

Speaker 9 Just going to hang him off the dry?

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I mean,

Speaker 1 the pickup is like James Gandalfini. James Gandalfini made us love Tony Soprano.
So without knowing. Which one's your pick?

Speaker 4 Is Tony the more recognizable name or no?

Speaker 1 I feel like Tony Soprano's pick. Tony Soprano.
Scandalfini is the actor that plays Tony Soprano, but he also plays other Italians. Yeah, we'll take Tony Soprano.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I was going to take Tony Soprano.

Speaker 1 Of course we were. Of course we were.

Speaker 1 All right, what should we go with? Should we go? I think we should go with our 2-3.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that sounds good. All right.
So we're going to go

Speaker 1 Al Capone

Speaker 1 and John Gotti.

Speaker 1 Those are our first two picks. Great Italians.
Great Italians. Great.

Speaker 1 Great Italians. You know what? They cared about their community.
Yep. The streets were a lot safer when those guys were around.
They were, you know?

Speaker 1 Like, you could walk through your neighborhood and hold your head high. You couldn't own a small business, but

Speaker 1 you knew that there wasn't going to be trash on the street. They provided a service.
Right. They did.
Exactly. And they killed Kennedy.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey, hey. You can't prove that.
Hey, we're not doing the Mount Rushmore virus, guys. All right.

Speaker 9 You know, Al Capone is actually buried right across from my high school in my hometown.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's him.
And he's,

Speaker 1 what did he have? Syphilis? Yeah, no, he had syphilis.

Speaker 9 He died of syphilis, yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He went to Hotsprings, I think Hot Springs, Arkansas, where they have the Arkansas Derby, Oaklawn.

Speaker 1 I think Al Capone used to go there because he thought if he sat in a tub long enough, the syphilis would go away. So smart man, too.
Smart man.

Speaker 9 Science at the time.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead. Team Jilly.
I love ours. And he cheated on his taxes.
I think you'll appreciate that.

Speaker 9 That's a very Italian thing to do, yes.

Speaker 1 And he was trending the other day.

Speaker 1 Because when they rated Trump's

Speaker 1 Mar-a-Lago, they were like Al Capone.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, he was trending. Billy, what's up? He's still relevant today.

Speaker 9 What? What are Billy's thoughts on what happened with Trump?

Speaker 1 He's a big special master guy.

Speaker 1 We just.

Speaker 1 Italians. Italians.
Okay. Okay.
All right. Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 4 billy go ahead all right uh this one we're gonna go with the character not the actor rocky balboa okay

Speaker 1 so you guys are only going with characters

Speaker 1 no well yeah you went to the soprano yeah so far rocky balboa okay all right we got some serious real people coming up

Speaker 1 as real as john gotti and alcapone realer that's realer

Speaker 9 realer than them okay all right that's that's a good pick i just you know i wish wish you were picking real people instead of yeah portrayals of Italians.

Speaker 1 It's kind of patronizing of Italian culture for them to pick these caricatures

Speaker 1 when there are people out there that

Speaker 1 they work and they even create these characters. Right.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 You're saying that

Speaker 1 a fictional person is a better Italian than all the real blue-blooded, hard-working Italians out there. It's pretty disrespectful, I think.
It is.

Speaker 5 And in that same vein, our next two picks, you know, similar, similar people, similar mindsets, similar know, legendary status.

Speaker 5 The first one being Julius Caesar.

Speaker 1 That's my goat dictator. Oh, no.
Oh, really?

Speaker 9 Because I'm surprised you like Julius Caesar.

Speaker 9 Seeing as how, you know, he was the original Capital Stormer there. He was a true patriot.

Speaker 9 He's the one who ended the Republic.

Speaker 1 I can see why you like him a lot.

Speaker 5 And then in that same vein, speaking of Storming the Capitol, Ryan Rossillo is our next pick.

Speaker 1 Ooh, nice. Good pick.

Speaker 1 Another anti-tax guy. You could pick Simmons.
Yeah. Half Italian.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but no, the difference is, like, Rosillo, when you look for an Italian, you're looking like a real Italian isn't afraid to put his nuts on the table or the couch sofa that he's sitting on at any given time.

Speaker 9 And Rosillo, you know, he's always, he's putting them out there for everybody to see. That's a real Italian right there.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Team Jilly, good picks. Good picks.
This is a strong Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 We're going with Mario.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Super Mario.
Super Mario.

Speaker 1 Draft in real Italians now, huh? We pivoted there.

Speaker 1 She's a real mile.

Speaker 1 So plumbers, boxers, and mafia. That's all you got.
We have no mafia. Oh, no, no.
Super Mafia.

Speaker 1 You could have picked an unbelievable actor in James Candolfini.

Speaker 6 Super Mario on the graphic. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. So are you taking him when Waluigi is still on the board? Waluigi.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Yeah.
Okay. Sleepy.
All right. What do we want to go with? I think number are

Speaker 1 five for sure, but then who else? You picked the last one. Okay, I'll do the last one.
All right.

Speaker 1 We're going to

Speaker 1 go with Mike the Situation from Jersey Shore. Another non-dominant guy.
Green Italian. I'm sensing a theme here.
Holy shit. So none of these guys pay their taxes.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 We came here. We made sure to check out how everybody else was doing it and said, all right, let's do it for ourselves.
And that's really been working to our benefit.

Speaker 9 We had to establish ourselves in this country somehow.

Speaker 9 So we looked at who was in charge, how they got in charge, how they got their money, and we said, Let's do it, but let's do it better than they did because that's the Italian way.

Speaker 1 I like the idea of just being like, If we all, if we all cheat, they can't arrest all of us. And the virus is like, Yeah, we can.
Yeah, well, we definitely that's kind of what we do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? We'll make a law, too, that anyone who associates with anyone calls it RICO.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 9 we were so good that they had to create laws to stop us.

Speaker 1 That's true, that's skells. Skells.
They were such skells that they had to create the RICO law. All right.
Last pick. Our last pick.
I'm going to go with.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Maybe the third one that I sent in this last one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he's a total double

Speaker 1 dual threat. Dual Italian.
Silvio Berlusconi, the former prime minister.

Speaker 1 He had orgies while he was. He made Bill Clinton look like Tim Thibault.
He was just fucking everything, had his finger in every pie.

Speaker 1 That's an Italian expression, but also you can imagine what it means.

Speaker 9 Literally, he was really urban mirror it out there, you know.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, he was. What do you call them? The Boonga Boonga parties? Yes.

Speaker 9 This is a Mount Rushmore, so we shouldn't have like an actual president.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. He accomplished great things.

Speaker 1 Maybe not, but whatever. He was there.
ACM Alan won the Champions League while he owned it. There you go.
Good enough for me. Thank you, Tom.
We need some help with that. All right.

Speaker 1 Team Jilly, your last pick.

Speaker 4 Max, would you like to announce our final pick of 2022?

Speaker 13 I would be honored. This is a personal favorite of mine.
I'm going to go with Frank Sinatra.

Speaker 1 Oh, Billy. Shit.
That's a great pick.

Speaker 1 That's a great pick. Damn it.
We should have done Final Project. That was so classy, what Jake just did.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was, he basically was like, Max, go ahead, pick Mr. Irrelevant.
It brings him out.

Speaker 9 Billy was running to draft nero and max saved the day by taking frank sinatra

Speaker 5 all right your guys last pick i feel like tom you should just whatever whatever whatever comes to your mind you we've got a lot of people on the board i think you should just go for it

Speaker 9 oh man i don't know it's like our number two is still there but i feel like i don't know if this is the time to take it uh

Speaker 9 yeah fuck it no i'm gonna go with chef boy rd

Speaker 9 oh nice i'd be a nice choice i i learned how to cook from my grandmother growing up but i mean you know, we all talk about our Italian grandmothers and their raviolis, but I've still to this day never had a better ravioli than the one made by Chef Boy RD.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's beef ravioli. Somehow it tastes better when it's cold than it does when it's heated up.
Yes. Just fantastic.

Speaker 1 All right, what did we miss? Papa John?

Speaker 1 Max Holman. I mean, he's Italian.
Come on. Papa John's Italian.
We had Sacco and Vanzetti on our list. Oh, yeah.
Yep. And our kids.
Can you take him? RIP. Machiavelli.

Speaker 1 How about Robert De Niro and Al Pacino?

Speaker 9 Quality Italians. Not on my list.
Not on the lists. Really? Yeah.
Do you want the rest of my list? I'll give it to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's hear it. How about Ponzi, the guy that invented the Ponzi screen? Yes.
Again. Releata?

Speaker 9 Italians invent a lot of things.

Speaker 9 Had Fat Tony from The Simpsons.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 Adrian Brody.

Speaker 9 From Peaky Blinders with the most offensive performance of an Italian I've ever seen. Noted pervert R.
Kelly.

Speaker 9 Your favorite Dan Marino.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 9 The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Polly Walnuts.
And of course, Lieutenant Aldo Rain and the Inglorious Bastards.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yep.
Mike Piazza, Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo.

Speaker 1 Cuomo. All the Cuomos.
The Cuomos. Cuomosexuals.

Speaker 1 Cuomo. Sexuals.

Speaker 1 Pontius Pilot was Italian.

Speaker 1 Listen, talk about your all-time

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no, that's true. He kind of saved everybody's life.
Also, maybe the biggest heel, right? He actually killed Jesus. So that's a, if you're like a bad boy, Christopher Columbus.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's a good one, but

Speaker 9 might not be Italian.

Speaker 1 Oh, might be like

Speaker 9 Spanish, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. The Italians claim him, though.
What about, I thought you were going to go with like Da Vinci and Michelangelo.

Speaker 9 I said the teenage joint ninja turtles.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it's true. You're right.
You're right. You nailed them all.

Speaker 1 I mean, this was a great Mount Rushmore. Great ending.

Speaker 1 It just became.

Speaker 1 So wait, what were give us your picks again, the four that you have. What was yours, Team Hank and Tom?

Speaker 9 We had Mike Tarico,

Speaker 9 Ryan Rosillo, or Julius Caesar, then Ryan Rossillo, and then Chef Boy R.D.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then Team Jilly.

Speaker 1 We had Rocky, Tony Soprano, Super Mario, and Sinatra. Yeah, you guys had a good one.
And then we had Al Capone, John Gotti, The Situation, and then Silvio Berlusconi.

Speaker 9 See, I feel like your team is a little too similar.

Speaker 9 You didn't really, you know, you don't have enough.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, what we said, I think my exact

Speaker 1 text to memes and PFT was, I kind of want to make a mockery of this and go with all mobsters.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 9 I was telling Hank, I figured you guys were going to go that kind of joke route. That's why we went Terico 1-1.
We just wanted to throw you off your game.

Speaker 1 You did. That really, I think that was a good choice.
That was. I only regret not doing Sinatra.
I think if we had Sinatra in the fourth,

Speaker 1 we would have won this.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I was trying to come up with too many joke answers. I didn't really think of actual Italians.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's just about the friends we made along the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Great Mount Rushmore season, everyone.

Speaker 1 Tom, thank you as always. We love having you on.
Everyone, check him out on Twitter. He writes columns.
He has picks.

Speaker 1 The Georgia Tech, they just scored a field goal. So 14-3.
Yeah, I know. I have cleans in first half.
It's going to suck. So, all right.
Well, Tom, thanks as always, man. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 9 My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1 Only one, but

Speaker 1 it was sick. It was sure he was, it was sick.
Did he do anything with a pancake or anything? No, no, no. We have Justin Houston, outside linebacker for the Ravens.

Speaker 1 So the Ravens have two offensive line upside linebackers on their 53-man roster. So that means that they're going to have to be playing a lot, the two guys.

Speaker 1 So Justin Houston, one of them, he said, quote unquote, if they need me to play every snap, I'm playing every snap I can play. They'll carry me off the field before I quit.

Speaker 1 I was told you'll pass out before you die, so I'm willing to pass out. Okay, I like that.
That is a very football guy thing to say, where it's like.

Speaker 1 I think that's medically correct also. Like, if you're going to die,

Speaker 1 you have to stop not being passed out first, right? And also, like, I would rather be so tired that I don't come out of the game than possibly take a break and help my team out. Yes.

Speaker 1 Football guy. Yes, football guy.
Absolutely. Like, if you need a break, don't take it.
This second one comes from the NFL offensive line coach for the Panthers, James Campen.

Speaker 1 So before the Panthers preseason game, James Campen was just smelling a football.

Speaker 1 He just was talking to Baker Manfield and Sam Dunn about how much he loves the smell of footballs, especially the laces. And he's been doing it since high school.

Speaker 1 And there's just a video of him just like...

Speaker 1 like snorting a football. I like that.
Just

Speaker 1 chopping up a football. He's standing with his back to the goalpost just like sniffing this football.
I like that. By the way, this kid for Clemson is a future Hall of Famer.
Did you see that?

Speaker 1 I just saw him. Cade Klubnick, yeah.
He's their freshman. He just got in the game for mop-up duty.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Eyeball test. I've seen five passes from him.
Hall of Famer. Talking gold jacket, folks.

Speaker 1 Where were you when we said this? Cade Klubnick? Klubnik.

Speaker 1 He's legit. I'm sorry about this guy.
And again, I just saw the eyeball. I mean, he's a true freshman.
He's like 18 years old.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just remember, in like 25 years, Kid Klubnik should have us intro his Hall of Fame speech. This kid.
This quarterback at Clemson? Yeah. I think he's good.
This kid? No, this kid.

Speaker 1 Well, why did he do that?

Speaker 1 Did you see the quarterback that was playing the majority of the game? Not good for Clemson. DJ Louie Ungalille.
Yeah, yeah. Wait, was that Dabbo's kid who just cut? Wait.

Speaker 1 No, Dabo does, I think, have a kid on the field. He does.
Yeah, he's on the field with the team. But that's completely irrelevant.
That kid would be on the team even if his dad wasn't the coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, now they're showing the Ungili, and

Speaker 1 he's probably like, fuck, that was an easy drive. I know it's against backups, but whatever.
All right, keep going, Billy.

Speaker 1 Our third guy, third football guy of the week, is reoccurring guest, Sam Pittman. Arkansas after the game, he was getting interviewed.

Speaker 1 They were asking him how he was going to celebrate his win, and he said with a nice cold core's light.

Speaker 1 He doesn't condone it, but he doesn't want to promote it, But he was saying he was going to drink some nice cold beer after that. And old and cold.
Old and cold.

Speaker 5 He made up a new expression.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's cool.
He does have maybe the coolest picture of him with Coors Light ever. Have you seen that old picture? No, I actually haven't.
Back when he was a player?

Speaker 1 Listen to the group chat. It was

Speaker 5 sick wine.

Speaker 1 That would be a sick t-shirt. I love Sam Pittman so much.
Old and colds. And last one, this comes from high school, but I was watching this highlight from Arch Manning's high school game.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yep.
All right, This actually plays. He fucking dropped that in a bucket.
Right, right. But Arch Manning isn't the star of this video.
Agreed. Agreed.

Speaker 1 He isn't the most football guy.

Speaker 1 So I'm watching this, and then I realize: okay, the pass was a little bit, it was a great toss, a great catch, and then the guy just gets nailed by the safety over the middle.

Speaker 1 But then I realized that there was a guy chasing him with no helmet on for like 30 yards, chasing down the tight end that was getting the pass.

Speaker 1 And this guy has no helmet and just straight up goes and levels this guy that is football guy material like that that's an 18 year that's a jacked up 17 year old probably was drinking way too much pre-workout during the game yep and that's just awesome stuff he tried to find his name he launched himself into it yeah yeah no helmet all right

Speaker 1 that's yeah good job billy that was a very strong four so jake will blog it or you blog it i blog it you blog it vote uh and then like we always do we're gonna try to get a few of them on this year whoever wins football guy of the week to give them their their award We should start sending out.

Speaker 1 We should, yeah, maybe just like just a nail. Yeah.
Just like mail somebody a nail.

Speaker 1 The mail nail. What if we just say...
The nail man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the nail man. I like that.
A single nail. Yeah.
Or maybe a nail. Part of my take, the nail man of the week.

Speaker 1 We should, no, what we should do is we should send them a nail and a football and then be like... Assemble.
Just so you know. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 assembly not included.

Speaker 1 And then be like, just so you know, there's a forwarding address, so you have to send that to the next week. So we don't have to, we only have to send one out.
Yeah, right. So it becomes

Speaker 1 weight off our shoulders. It becomes chain nail.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 hopefully Sam. The brotherhood of the traveling nail.
Yeah, whoever wins it the first week, like, be cool, dude. Yeah.
Send this nail and this football to someone else. Should we just nail a football?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, pound a nail into the football and

Speaker 1 that will be what you get. But we got to pound it in where it's like, you know, when you get it, sometimes you get a nail in your tire and it's like, it it doesn't go flat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it gets so perfectly in there, but the football stays.

Speaker 1 I don't think that you can mail something through the air that's inflated like that. I feel like

Speaker 1 the air pressure will get to it. I mean, we can do whatever we want.
Okay, so who do we put it in the hole?

Speaker 1 In the hole? The air hole. Yeah, we could put it in the air.
Yeah, put the nail in the air hole. Okay, I like that.
I like how this is coming together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, yeah.
We're not going to do any of this. No, it was a great idea.
It was

Speaker 1 a great idea.

Speaker 1 Are you going to send it? Yeah, I'll find one and send it to

Speaker 1 you. If you can just send it to the first person and write a letter saying it is your obligation to send it on, I will consider a job done by you.
Perfect. Like,

Speaker 1 you're washed clean of this whole thing. But then we've got to try to get it back at the end of the year.
The only thing is I've been trying to find this high school kid's name, but his number isn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe don't. Yeah, no.
Nah. We can do this just for NFL players.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we don't have to stalk a high schooler.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, what's your home address?

Speaker 1 These guys from the podcast want to send you a fucking nail. A nail.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up.

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Speaker 1 That Sam Pittman picture is awesome. 84, 84, 84.
Whoa, people who had 64. Oh, yeah.
I saw that.

Speaker 1 I Steve Harvey'd that. I steve harmed me.
It was 84. It was 84.
Yeah, Yeah, but 64 people just celebrate.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah.

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They're from Europe.

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