Bruce Arians In Studio, NFL Cut Day And Mt Rushmore Of Living Legends

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have Coach Bruce Arians, Super Bowl-winning coach Bruce Arians.
Recurring guest, Bruce Arians. Recurring guest Bruce Arians in studio.

Speaker 1 We also are taping the rest of the show at Stu Feiner's house. So we're going to tape an NFL

Speaker 1 betting preview with Stu Finer that will air next week. But because we're in Stu Feiner's house, we're in his basement, we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Living Legends.

Speaker 1 So, get excited for that.

Speaker 1 Cut day, a lot going on in the NFL. We have Hot Seat Cool Throne.
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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, August 31st, and we are taping this live from Stu Finer's basement. We actually look like the meme.

Speaker 1 If you're watching on YouTube, the little kids trying to discuss something like that were on this very small table, all five of us.

Speaker 4 Yeah, hey guys, how do you think Mikhail Gorbachev's death affects global politics?

Speaker 1 This is a perfect setting. Supreme still cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There we go. So it is cut day.

Speaker 1 We are taping this before hard knocks. We've pulled the plug on hard knocks, but we can just guess what happened.

Speaker 4 Well, hardknox is on life support, but I'm like, it's been in a coma for the last week and a half. So I'm going home.
I'm getting some rest.

Speaker 4 I'm already going to tell you what's going to be in Hard Knocks tonight.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it's dead. I'm just saying that we're not going to stay up till midnight to talk about Dan Campbell crying to Tim Kennedy and Tom Kennedy when they get cut.

Speaker 4 No, that's what's going to happen. Dan Campbell's going to turn on the waterworks.
He's going to be very sad, like actually sad.

Speaker 4 He's going to kind of hate himself for cutting players that he really likes. And then Tom Kennedy is going to be cut, and then he's going to be signed by the New England Patriots.
Yes.

Speaker 4 So not only does he fit the bill for a New England Patriot, just in terms of, I don't know, like what they really like out of a wide receiver.

Speaker 4 They just really like, yeah, it fits the bill. It's like mold.
Like Bill Belichick, he opens his eyes. He looks at Tom Kennedy.
He's like, that's my next Christ Walker. That's my next Nikhil Harry.

Speaker 4 That's the kind of guy that Bill Belichick is. Also, I looked up Tom Kennedy.
He played lacrosse. He was drafted in professional lacrosse.

Speaker 4 So, and he was signed as an undrafted free agent by Matt Patricia when Matt Patricia was the coach of the Lions. You know where Matt Patricia is now?

Speaker 4 He's, I don't know, being a fake offensive coordinator for the New England England Patriots.

Speaker 1 And, and, and

Speaker 1 Tim Kennedy, Tom, Thomas Kennedy's brother is here right now. And I was like, hey, what's going to happen to your brother? And he's just like, I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's, that's, that's breaking news. Well, I think he says breaking news.
I talked to Tom Kennedy's brother. He's like, I think he's probably, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I, I, I actually, so Big Cap, before you got here, we brought, I didn't know that that was Tim Kennedy's brother. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so we just talked about Tim Kennedy because that's what we do in Sue's backyard. And Tim Kennedy's brother weighed in.

Speaker 1 He goes, oh, probably a patriot yeah so there you go so breaking new uh sources close to the source indicate to me that he will be a new england patriot there was some bears talk too they i think they're just trying to figure out where he's i think stu feiner is actually going to decide where tim kennedy ends up because he's just going to be like uh we talked in the backyard we had the council of dudes which is pretty much the nickname for Stu's house.

Speaker 1 This is the Council of Dudes. And yeah, you're going to the Bears Patriots or maybe the Lions.

Speaker 4 Maybe get re-signed to the practice squad.

Speaker 1 Who knows?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but yeah, the bottom line is he'll find a good home.

Speaker 1 And we also have, I can also tell you that I know that Dan Campbell's going to be very upset with the Lions' effort against the Steelers on Sunday. I think they scored three points and lost.

Speaker 1 So losing, not so great for him. He's going to be upset about that.

Speaker 1 He's going to have a start not to.

Speaker 4 Let's guess. Let's guess.
What's the men count tonight? Men or man count coming out of Dan Campbell's mouth. I think I'm going to go.
I'm going to set the over-under at 28.

Speaker 1 Ooh, 28 mans.

Speaker 2 That was right where I was guessing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you never get it right.

Speaker 4 That's a good point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit. Over.

Speaker 4 Over

Speaker 4 27 and a half is what I'm actually saying.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say over as well. Okay.
So that was your hard knocks preview. Boom.
A recap. All right.
So cut day. Josh Rosen got cut.
That's all I care about. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Josh Johnson got cut. He's played on 14 teams now.
He'll probably play for at least two more this year.

Speaker 4 I love the fact that he just, he's the guy that you call when you don't have another guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When you need a guy in your locker room, it's like, okay, Josh johnson he's a good person to have for a week but i also kind of feel bad for him at this point it's like he can't ever buy a home he probably stopped buying homes after the 15 oh the offseason he was cut by yeah i mean that one but like he never he never settles into the city he's break glass in case of emergency quarterback and he seems like a good guy otherwise he wouldn't have all these jobs and i just want him to find a forever home i think he's a very good boy and he needs to have a forever home that loves him and cares for him forever i do think that he's probably gotten at this point isn't it like you just you put you get them to just kind of give him the last good year of their life?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, just make him happy feeling good.

Speaker 2 I also think he like once you hit 14 years, like that's kind of, you know, in football years.

Speaker 4 Yeah, football years, they do age faster. So, yeah, just give him all the boops, all the belly scratches, and just make sure that he's happy.

Speaker 1 I do think, though, he's probably like corner to market now because you know that GMs are like, who's a guy that we can bring in the QB room that can live out of a hotel? Yeah. Oh, Josh Johnson.

Speaker 1 He's done it many times. Like, you know that he's not going to be calling you up being like, I don't know if I want to move again.
Like, no, he wants to move again. He keeps moving.

Speaker 4 Imagine his Marriott points by now. Right.
Dude must own a Marriott hotel.

Speaker 1 He's just getting fat off that buffet.

Speaker 4 Constantly. Oh, the Continental Breakfast? Yes.
Eating Danishes. And if you show up late, small cups of yogurt.

Speaker 1 And if you show up late, there's no bacon. And then you look around and there's just fucking fat people eating the bacon.
And you're like, you motherfucker.

Speaker 4 I'll give you guys something to look forward to when you turn 35 because we've been saying a lot of bad stuff recently about how old we are and how washed up we feel.

Speaker 4 The great part about turning 35 is you start to finally enjoy the continental breakfast because you get because you're finally up yeah before 10 30 in the morning yes because that's so demoralizing walking downstairs or take the elevator and you smell you can still smell the fucking waffles and the bacon and then all you have left is like that small box of total yeah or like i the worst is when they do those big shoots of cereal and it's frosted flakes and it's stale yeah it's like frosted flakes i feel like frosted flakes is an okay cereal but it's just never is it anyone's like anyone get excited about it it's nothing special It's pretty much Tony the Tiger does it.

Speaker 1 It's really good. Okay, so that answered that track.
That was perfect. Yeah, you're right.
So only Jake. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Although, so maybe words.

Speaker 1 They're good. They're good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're more than good.

Speaker 4 I think that's what Tony the Tiger shows up.

Speaker 1 They're just good. They're good.

Speaker 1 They're perfectly average, unless they're stale at the Continental Breath.

Speaker 4 Yes. You know what else is bad coming out of those cereal tubes is raisin bran because the raisins always go to the very bottom.
So the people that get there early get all the raisins.

Speaker 4 And now you have frosted flakes without the frosting. yeah you just get and you get the bran yeah corn flakes my dad would love it

Speaker 1 um all right so i'm trying to think what else uh we are washed we did go we did go tune in get excited tonight tonight episode one episode one of the part of my take disc golf grand slam we went and played four rounds of disc golf four rounds one round equaling nine holes uh that's just how we play where that's just how we we grew up playing the game i mean the first the first one was in treacherous.

Speaker 2 Treacherous.

Speaker 1 Treacherous. Yeah, so we did a couple in Colorado, and then we finished it today.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we were out just banging chains with the bros all day.

Speaker 2 And we played 18, so it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my mind was blown when a full disc golf course is 21 holes. Yeah.
That's just, I think they just had to do that just to be like, we're better than golf. We need to add three more holes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we walked it, too. We walked the course.
No carts to you. Heroes.
My arm is about to fall off right now.

Speaker 1 So that's coming up tonight. Tune in.
Tonight, I think the first subscribe subscribe on the Pardon My Take YouTube. So it's going to be the first one.
Three o'clock? Three o'clock. Oh, afternoon.

Speaker 1 Prime time. Prime time.
The

Speaker 1 oh, it's going to be like Champions League. That's perfect.
We're basically the new Champions League of disc golf. So the first episode is going to be teams of two.

Speaker 1 The second episode is split in half, so teams of three.

Speaker 1 And then the final two episodes is every man for themselves to find out who is the Pardon My Take Disc Golf Grand Slam champion presented by New Amsterdam Vodka.

Speaker 4 So this isn't, it doesn't have anything to do with the sports world, but

Speaker 4 I know I got branded as the poop guy

Speaker 4 last episode. I seriously like have to poop like really

Speaker 4 bad right now.

Speaker 4 I had coffee. I had like three things of Pepsi.
Stew fed us a giant spread.

Speaker 1 But you really don't have to poop right now because you're going to have to poop when we all want to leave. I really have to go to.
You have to have to go badly. Like very badly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you're going to have to wait. You're going to have to hold it in.

Speaker 1 This is why we win podcasting awards. We hold it up.

Speaker 4 We actually don't win any podcasting awards.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. We're only for life.

Speaker 1 And if we did show up, I wouldn't show up on the people.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't be on stage to accept it because I'd be shitting my brains out in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we've won awards in our hearts.

Speaker 4 Oh, we've won takies. Yeah.
We gave each other takies.

Speaker 4 That's right. That's true.
Hank still actually hasn't won.

Speaker 1 No, of course not. He doesn't win anything.

Speaker 1 He was in a good mood today. We've got to keep the good mood going.

Speaker 4 You know, he's really mad when he breaks out the silent bubble booba boos. Yeah.
When he just does the mouth to the bo-ba-bo-ba-boo.

Speaker 1 All right, other things. Belichick and Berman was incredible.
Yeah. That was Belichick and Berman.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was basically made for this podcast when Belichick saw Chris Berman walking into the press room and just started clapping and was like, Schwam, look at you.

Speaker 4 Like, for all the Super Bowls that Belichick has won, I don't think I've ever seen him light up like that genuinely as I did when he just saw Boomer's face.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. It was incredible.
That was an awesome moment. I'm thinking of other cuts.
Oh, the Raiders cut Alex Leatherwood, who was their first-round pick two years ago.

Speaker 1 So essentially, like putting a bookend to the Gruden-Mayock Raiders is being just objectively terrible. And it's very funny because it's always like the Khalil Mack trade when everyone grades it.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, the Raiders have just drafted no one. Like, that's the Jacobson.

Speaker 1 You won that trade. No, we didn't win that trade because then we traded Khalil Mack.
We all lost.

Speaker 1 But it is always funny whenever you give a poor run organization picks and you're like, oh, look at all the picks.

Speaker 1 I think they had six first-round picks in the last three years and three of them are gone. And then I think Cleland Farrell is not very good.
And

Speaker 1 who's the Salmon guy?

Speaker 4 Oh, Salmon. Wasn't that Farrell?

Speaker 1 No, that was the

Speaker 1 safety. Abrams.
Abrams. John Day hasn't been very great.
Josh Jacobs has been good. Yeah.
And then they've cut two of them, and then obviously Rux.

Speaker 4 I've always said that even when you're doing a trade with a team like the Raiders, if you're taking their picks, they still have some of the stink of the Raiders on them.

Speaker 4 If they just give you picks, it's like, do I really want a Raiders first-round pick?

Speaker 4 And then if you're sending the Raiders picks, they get devalued because giving them more picks is like giving JPP more fireworks. Right, right.

Speaker 1 It's just always funny to watch an organization be like, oh, there's the booket. Like, those guys are gone, and that's it.

Speaker 4 Object, like, stamp it.

Speaker 1 All their first-round picks are basically failures.

Speaker 4 I also feel like John Gruden drafted Leatherwood because he saw his last name was Leatherwood. Yeah.
And Gruden was like, that is a football name.

Speaker 1 Of course. Alex Leatherwood from Alabama.
Yeah. Have to take him.

Speaker 1 I also, listen, I'm not shaming Alex Leatherwood because he is, under my first-round theory, the Bears should go get him because he's still a great player.

Speaker 4 Once he gets to another franchise, then he's a stock immediately. You should trade him immediately, actually.
Correct.

Speaker 4 Like, a team should sign him and be like, we got a former first-rounder and then flip him now that he has the Raiders stink off him. Yeah.
It's like flipping a house.

Speaker 1 What's Hank laughing about?

Speaker 4 You're cheesing?

Speaker 2 I just got some.

Speaker 2 I got some tricks up my sleeve from Mount Rushmore and I received a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Oh, from Stu.

Speaker 1 So Hank went all of one Mount Rushmore without a teammate.

Speaker 1 He's been saying all summer that he doesn't want to do team Mount Rushmore. He did Mondays.

Speaker 7 He finished last.

Speaker 1 And then he's like, I want Stu.

Speaker 4 Yeah, now he's trying to create a super team. Now he's becoming everything that he once hated.
Yes. The super team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 next Tuesday is going to be the finale of Mount Rushmore. We decided.
So there's this is the what is the third to last?

Speaker 4 Pinultimate.

Speaker 1 Pin ultimate. Trust will be the penultimate.
Tri Ultimate.

Speaker 4 But wait, what's the pen penultimate?

Speaker 1 Trial Ultimate. I made that up.
Tri Ultimate? I just. That's nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, Jake made it up.

Speaker 1 Jake made it up. Courtesy of Hank.
Jake made that up. Yeah, good job.
He was the one who first

Speaker 1 heard him say it. Courtesy of Hank.
I'll give him credit.

Speaker 1 And you give credit to Jake for giving credit to Hank for that.

Speaker 4 That's it. Good job, Jake.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Double credit. Very cool.
Double credit.

Speaker 2 I didn't say some of the ones that they're dead.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Don't say it.
Yeah. Any other cut stuff? Any other?

Speaker 1 I don't think there was anything else.

Speaker 4 Strieveler got cut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes, you got something. Oh, I did see, which is just like the pettiest thing ever, but a Bears Beat Writer was like

Speaker 1 new era in Chicago. Ryan Poles submitted his

Speaker 1 53-man roster at 3.02.

Speaker 1 Ryan Pace didn't submit his 53-man roster till after 6 o'clock every year. Oh, good job.
Oh, wow. Good job.
You changed.

Speaker 1 It's go-to.

Speaker 4 They're better at paperwork now.

Speaker 1 They're better at sending a fax to the league office. That's, hey, I mean, it's the little things.

Speaker 4 That fucked up the Denver Broncos. It's the little things.
Remember that with the Elvis Dumerville thing. Yes.

Speaker 4 It's so funny because I feel like the only people that use fax machines are the NFL and then landlords.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was going to say also like over 70-year-old doctors. Yeah, doctors.
They can only use faxes. Yeah, they don't use emails.
They just fax.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but anytime you're filling out a lease, it's like fax this over, fax that over. It's like, bitch, I was born in 1985.

Speaker 1 DocuSign exists. That's a real thing now.
You can also just take a picture of

Speaker 1 a signed piece of paper and text it. Sometimes I do that when

Speaker 4 they say, even when they tell me specifically fax it, I email the picture and I'm like, I dare you to ask me to fax this.

Speaker 1 This is a fax. Yeah.
We're going to say memes. Any other cuts?

Speaker 4 Oh, CD Dude.

Speaker 1 Traded to the Eagles. Yep.

Speaker 4 I think that's a good deal for the birds. Yeah.
I have a future on the birds. I like the birds this year.

Speaker 1 I got a lot of money on the birds. I'm Larry Bird.
Yeah. It's going to be Bird Gang.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Mac. Oh, what are you doing? Three? What's three? What's the three? He's hitting up three.
He's making a gang size. He was making wings.
Jesus Christ, Max. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Brock was trading. Three Three's right.

Speaker 1 All right, so should we get to hot seat, cool thrown? I don't think we have anything else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, football's fucking so, so close to being back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it's back. I can smell it.
Next week. Oh, huge.
I can't believe we haven't talked about this already. Papa John's made a football-shaped pizza.

Speaker 1 Of course he did. Yeah.
He also tried to make a crustless pizza. Who did that? He was a genius.
Someone tried to make a crustless pizza.

Speaker 4 I don't know. All I saw is Adam Schefter.
He did like a sponsor video, and he was like, look at this. It's football pizza.

Speaker 1 I mean, that plays.

Speaker 1 is it for everyone? No. Like the chocolate football? No.

Speaker 4 But then Florio tried to clap back at him because he got that rivalry going with Schefter.

Speaker 4 And Florio was like, I heard that they made a basketball-shaped pizza, but it was just shaped like a pizza. Yeah.
It was very funny. Great.

Speaker 1 By the way, Florio, I know people have been like, hey, are you guys going to prank Florio this year? I actually think that what we've done this year is even better because he texted me.

Speaker 1 He was like, he was in New York City for something. He had a meeting and he texted me the morning of and was like, I'm 50%

Speaker 1 like expecting this meeting to just be you guys behind like, you know, you just pop out of a window or a door. And I was like, that's exactly what we want.

Speaker 1 Because I don't, I don't feel like pranking him.

Speaker 4 He's in a living hell right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me.

Speaker 4 Like

Speaker 3 he's flinching.

Speaker 1 He's constantly flinching. We're just going to show up his house in West Virginia and give him two.

Speaker 4 He absolutely wants us to prank him. He's waking every day being like, I hope this is the day they prank me so I don't have to think about it anymore.
It's not happening.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. You're not getting pranked this year.
That's how, yeah, that's the prank.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but be careful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, be very careful.

Speaker 4 Because you might.

Speaker 1 You very much might. Also, speaking of fantasy football, Jerry O'Connell Friday.
I know everyone's been asking. It is happening Friday.

Speaker 4 Right. So Jerry is actually tonight.
He's doing

Speaker 4 our fantasy draft in C.J. McCollum's Fantasy League.
And so he's doing that on his own, not for content.

Speaker 4 But then we'll bring him on and have him give us the results of the draft, and we'll have him grade his own draft.

Speaker 1 And then also give us tips for which teams he's just writing off this year. So it will be great.
Half the league. Yeah, very excited for that.
All right.

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Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 2 My hot seat is my girl, probably my biggest crush when I was a kid, Hilary Duff.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I die. She's a poop girl.
She got diarrhea.

Speaker 2 She's got diarrhea.

Speaker 1 Percy Jerry. She's a catastrophe.

Speaker 2 She told her young kid, and then her young kid went to soccer practice and said it to the coach, who then obviously told everyone, and now it's just a nationally publicated story.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was very weird when I was just scrolling Twitter this morning and page six was like Hillary Duff's daughter says that she has diarrhea.

Speaker 2 Oh, I just saw Hillary Duff has diarrhea.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, her daughter.

Speaker 6 And then I had to click into it to like figure that out.

Speaker 4 Wait, that was the clickbait that you got? You were like, Hillary Duff has diarrhea. Smash that click.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, you're not.
I don't know how Hillary check it. Yes.
You really do. She still got it.
Well, apparently not. She's evacuated all of it.
She's

Speaker 1 incontinent. Yeah.
There's nothing left. Those guts are gone.

Speaker 1 Out her butt.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 I took her off my list this morning when I saw that.

Speaker 1 Not me. That's sexist.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 When someone's your goat as a kid, it's tough to take them off the list.

Speaker 1 The sexist

Speaker 1 has diarrhea.

Speaker 2 It doesn't do it for me. Flags fly forever.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Pamela Anderson will never have diarrhea.

Speaker 4 I think she constantly has diarrhea, right?

Speaker 4 She got hepatitis. CB.
So Hep C, that's fine. Diarrhea off the list.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Got it.

Speaker 2 And then my cool throne is tennis.

Speaker 2 Jake is watching.

Speaker 1 You're watching right now. So I'm watching Sam Shu.

Speaker 1 Sam is an AWL.

Speaker 4 Even Shaka.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Sam Clurry is an AWL.
And he invited me to come watch.

Speaker 1 I couldn't come today, but I said if he won round one,

Speaker 1 he'd come Thursday.

Speaker 4 He invited all of us.

Speaker 1 He's not in AWL then. Because he should have.
But he should have known nothing.

Speaker 1 I actually think he really hates tennis.

Speaker 4 But he wants us there.

Speaker 1 He's actually retiring after this tournament, and he's in trouble here. Wait, what do you mean he's retiring? Like, from the sport.
How old is he? 34.

Speaker 1 So he invited us to his last. He's the third set, 6'7.
Winner.

Speaker 1 This guy's a... Did he joke?

Speaker 4 I mean, it was a tiebreak.

Speaker 1 This guy supports you guys. You're not supporting him.
Well, I mean, he's retiring. What do you want me to do? I would have loved to support him if he just kept on fucking playing.
He's a loyal AWL.

Speaker 4 I'll tell you what, I will go to his match if he makes the finals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll be there.

Speaker 4 And I'll get a tattoo of him across my chest. Me too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I'll keep you posted, but it's not looking good for you. So you jinxed him.
What? Yeah. How is that a jinx? We've never watched a Sam.
What's his name? Query. Query? Yeah.
I've also seen it.

Speaker 4 I've never seen Jake do multi-screen. Q-U-E-R-R-E-Y.
Oh, he watches TV all the time during Sam Query.

Speaker 1 He's acting kind of query right now.

Speaker 4 Wait, Billy, are you ratting out on Jake?

Speaker 8 If I was caught watching TV during a recording, other things would happen.

Speaker 1 Caught watching TV.

Speaker 1 I'm not hiding it. It's out on the TV.
It's true.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we're rooting for you, Sam,

Speaker 1 until you quit and retire. And then we'll be able to play.
Well, you guys are playing the doubles draw, too. Is he going to be continuing to...
Oh, so he could be in the tournament.

Speaker 1 He's playing in both. The doubles is such a fake championship.

Speaker 4 He's probably not even retiring from doubles.

Speaker 1 He's retiring from singles. He's going to play pickleball.
Ivashka's one game away from winning the match. I could probably beat him in tennis.

Speaker 1 I'll never retire from tennis. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Serena had a nice opening round win to Hank's point. of this cool throne.
I saw that. It's beautiful.
Of course, he has that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFD, your hot seat, cool throwing.

Speaker 4 Okay, my hot seat is Cade McNamara and J.J. McCarthy.
Yes. The two quarterbacks for Michigan, because Jim Harbaugh has decided to go with Cade McNamara.

Speaker 4 However, he justified it using a biblical justification. And he said both quarterbacks will see time in both games and possibly longer.
And they said, how did you come to that decision?

Speaker 4 And he said, well, it was based on some kind of biblical model. Solomon, he was known to be a pretty wise person.

Speaker 1 So the guy who split the baby in half?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so if you know what Solomon's riddle was, or the judgment of Solomon, Solomon was asked to decide a baby whether it belonged to one woman or a different woman. And he said, cut the baby in half.

Speaker 4 And then the person who was saying, no, that's, I would not want to see that baby cut in half, give it away. Then Solomon was like, well, guess what? Plot twist, record scratch, you're the real owner.

Speaker 4 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Owner, yes, you are the plot parents. You are the owner of this child.
Wait, so

Speaker 1 is that anti, though?

Speaker 4 So Harbaugh is saying he's going to have two quarterbacks. He's going to cut his quarterbacks in half.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 I don't know how that math, where we've said a long time ago on this show, if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one. But he's like, if you have, he's got...
a half a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Well, it's

Speaker 4 cutting them in half.

Speaker 1 I actually like this. I saw the press conference and Jim Harbaugh is essentially being like, I'm going to let God figure this out.

Speaker 1 Like when you have a hard decision that you kind of, you like both guys, you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Let's just hope, you know, he's probably like, maybe one of them gets injured.

Speaker 4 I'm going to pray on it for a while. See what happens.
I like the idea of starting two quarterbacks just based on, you know, week to week, just mixing it in there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then they won't know who to prepare for, like Sarkstone with no depth chart. Yeah.
But then Harbaugh is being like, God told me to do this. Yes.
Which, I mean, I would not argue with him.

Speaker 4 I think if God speaks to anybody, he would probably speak to Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Oh, absolutely. Sonny Dykes at TCU is going with three quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 That's a lot. That's too many quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 He's like, they're all going to play. That's too many.
Why not? Why the fuck not? That's a pretty good.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like none of them are very strong if all three.

Speaker 4 Yeah, probably not. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you have three, you don't have two.

Speaker 1 But I do like that Jim Harbaugh, like, this is very relatable. Like, a tough, like, no one likes to make hard decisions.
Let's just fucking see how it plays.

Speaker 4 He's that meme. Why not both?

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not both? Let's just roll the dice and hopefully God tells us which one should start. Yep.
Worked out for Mantiteo.

Speaker 1 Sure did. When he went to Notre Dame.
Because God told him to.

Speaker 4 My cool throne is Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton's back.
Also, he's back and also cool throne because he was at the tennis. Why are you shaking your head, Hank?

Speaker 1 This guy was about to lose. Oh, fucking Sam Curry.

Speaker 1 It's career point. Career point.
Oh no.

Speaker 1 Wow. We have to be the only podcast that is live for Sam Curry's career point.
I hope.

Speaker 1 I kind of hope that. Where were you? Where were you when his career ended? I was still alive.
We were in Stufinder's basement.

Speaker 4 So, anyways, Bill Clinton was at the U.S. Open, too, and he was, the best turn for it, he was canoodling with Dr.
Ruth. They were getting very close, so Bill Clinton's definitely back.

Speaker 4 Billy gave me this look, like, who's Dr. Ruth? Dr.
Ruth is maybe the most famous sex doctor of all time. So, he's getting some shit.
She's like probably 85, maybe 90, maybe older. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, Bill Clinton also, he's aged tremendously in the last couple of years. All that traveling and all that jet-setting that he's been doing.

Speaker 4 The sun on certain islands have been beating down on his face. So, Bill Clinton was getting real horny with Dr.
Ruth, and uh, I think he fucked her. I'm gonna say he fucked her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's like the old saying, like, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Clinton is an old dog, he's learning new tricks. And, well, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think Bill Clinton's teaching Dr. Ruth.
Yeah, I think that's what's happening. Like, if you're Dr.

Speaker 4 Ruth, you've seen everything, and Bill Clinton sits down next to you and she's like, Tell me about this cigar. Yeah,

Speaker 4 there you go. I've never used a Sagas.

Speaker 1 All right. My hot seat

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 America because I don't know if you guys saw this, but Putin has decided to bring back a system where he awards any woman who has 10 kids in Russia 1 million rubles.

Speaker 4 Okay, that sounds like a lot, but how much is that America?

Speaker 1 $16,000.

Speaker 4 So that's not a problem.

Speaker 1 And you get it when your 10th child turns one.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go out on a limb and say this policy will not be appealing to women. Yeah.
But 10 kids. 10 kids.

Speaker 1 And you don't get it till the 10th turns one.

Speaker 2 Is there like a premium

Speaker 2 on males?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like 2,000.
Why would there be, Hank?

Speaker 2 I mean, I feel like that's what Putin's going for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he probably is.

Speaker 4 And he wants men.

Speaker 1 He's probably trying to play the lottery here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's playing a big invasion in 18 years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, probably. One million rubles sounds like so much money on the front lines.

Speaker 2 It's like, fuck, we need, we got to

Speaker 1 stock it up. We need more dudes.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 1 he's the opposite of every college party. He's like, someone call up all the dudes and bring them them over.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is Russia suffering from a lack of dudes right now? I think so. I know that they were suffering from a lack of dudes at the end of World War II after Stalingrad.
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 4 Because they lost all their. They don't have any dudes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should come to Stu Foner's backyard.

Speaker 4 The ratio in Russia has historically been amazing.

Speaker 1 Depending on how you look at it, but amazing. Amazing.
A party.

Speaker 4 It's a clam jam. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nice.
That's sick.

Speaker 2 Andrew Tay taught me that.

Speaker 1 No, okay. Nice.
You're sensei. And then my cool tone, I actually don't want to step on Jake.
I think he's going to go. Are you going to go with your wild stat?

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't have that?

Speaker 1 Well, I had it, but not as my coolthrat. Do you want to say the wild stat? Yeah, Hank actually gave it to me, so he deserves credit for this as well.
Credit to Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, cool throne, Jake, because we had an all-time wild stat last night. This is wild.
This is wild. Yeah, it actually is wild.
Okay, let's go. Some things aren't wild.
This one's wild.

Speaker 1 This one's August 29th, 2001.

Speaker 1 Serena Williams wins at U.S. Open.
Albert Fujol sits a home run. And Vlad Guerrero Sr., Craig Biggio, and Dante Bachette all record a hit.

Speaker 4 And Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States.

Speaker 1 Right around then. On the 29th.

Speaker 4 No, that's when the memo came across, probably.

Speaker 1 August 29th, 2022.

Speaker 1 Serena Williams wins at U.S. Open.
Albert Pujolst hits a home run. But here's the twist: What? Vlad Guerrero Jr.,

Speaker 1 the son. Cavin Biggio, the son.
How do we know that's their sons? Last name. Have you seen their swings? Yeah, yeah.
And they're exactly the same. So Bachette, I'll record a hit.

Speaker 1 Whoa, wow, wow that's wild 161 years to the day serena and poohos are still doing their thing and the sons are all recording a hit on the same day and and and shout out albert poohos 42 years old july 4th he was hitting 189 and uh since then he leads a league in batting average and has like 11 homers that that's totally normal so wait so wait pick out what you're saying

Speaker 1 what you're saying old guys get hot yeah they get hot they get really hot yeah yeah right right before they retire what you're saying why did sam crew do fucking drugs before he retired?

Speaker 1 Oh, his career is over. Yeah, there it is.
He should have done some fucking winch straw.

Speaker 4 But what you're saying is right before the home run derby, he got good all of a sudden. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right before.

Speaker 4 That's wild.

Speaker 1 Huh. Huh.
I don't know. He just got historically hot.
He's leading the league in average at age 42, which is also not his real age. He's like 45.
Yeah. And yeah, that's just interesting.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine if like a football player got really, really good after they turned 40

Speaker 4 and then came back looking completely different, the things that we would say about him. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Would it be something that MLB wants to have Albert Poulos at 700 home runs? Hmm.

Speaker 1 Just questions that I'm asking to the world.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy.

Speaker 1 My hot seat are the Browns.

Speaker 8 Baker Mayfield, after the Panthers beat the Bills 21-0 in preseason, was recorded in saying, I'm going to fuck them up in regards to the Browns.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Oh, okay.
That's my hot seat. Baker.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've found out quickly that Billy's a big preseason guy. Like, what happens in preseason counts.

Speaker 4 I think the words count for Billy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just, it's fun. Yeah.
No, it is. Well, it is fun, but I'm just saying, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember that stat that they threw at memes said that the 0-16 lines went 4-0 in preseason.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, it's like when they're like, it's like fun football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, nothing counts, but everything counts.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I still.
It's a fun time for Jets fans.

Speaker 4 I can't quit Baker. I still believe in Baker.
I don't know what it is. I think he's still good.

Speaker 1 I definitely don't believe in Sam Darnold. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And then my other hot seat is Jackson State Football,

Speaker 8 our friend and recurring guest.

Speaker 1 Do we ever talk about it? Hot seat?

Speaker 1 Well, they have. No, you know why? No.
They have no water. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they have no water.

Speaker 6 This is a sad situation.

Speaker 4 All of Jackson, Mississippi, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have no water. Bad water.
So no, like, water is

Speaker 1 very important in football.

Speaker 4 I, Billy, I think that you should work with Chris Long to get water boys.

Speaker 1 I'd say water is important in life. To purchase football.

Speaker 4 Well, I'd water is very important just in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 Living there might need water. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We should get Dana's down there, but he's Dana Beers.

Speaker 1 Dana doesn't drink there. So he can't.
If you see Dana Beers with the water in Jackson, Mississippi, slap that shit out of his hand. He's taking it from someone who needs it.

Speaker 4 I actually think there's nobody less likely to mix in a water than Dana Beers.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He should go on a water strike.

Speaker 4 He needs, well, he has been for the last 26 years of his life. That's true.
He's like 40.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So hot seat, and then uh, my other cool throne is uh Dak Prescott. All the other quarterbacks on the Cowboys got cut,

Speaker 1 so the opposite

Speaker 4 Solomon's wisdom, it's his job, yeah. There it is, although they're probably gonna bring back Cooper Rush, right? It's like a handshake deal.
We're gonna cut you right now, it's a numbers game.

Speaker 1 They cut Wilgur, they cut him, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like it's your screw,

Speaker 2 it's fun for a day to news.

Speaker 1 I can totally see Dak making that part of his contract.

Speaker 1 Nobody quarterbacks on the roster, Kyler, for sure, too. Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, Jake. My hot seat is a man.
Are you done watching tennis? Yes.

Speaker 1 My hot seat is a man by the name of Mark from Milwaukee. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So on the Brewers Jumbotron, someone wrote one of those personalized messages. Mark, your friendship means the world to me.
Let's not wreck it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually...

Speaker 4 Well, I'm woke on this. You think it's fake?

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's no chance. Okay, but here's the thing.

Speaker 1 It actually,

Speaker 1 it was a random dude in the stands who tweeted at me. Okay.
And I retweeted it, and then it like everyone. You think the brewers just did that as a joke?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Okay, I think maybe the person did it as a joke, but I think like the brewers didn't do it as a joke.

Speaker 4 I don't think it's a real situation. I don't think that there's a guy named Mark that's

Speaker 1 one of those things I just want to believe. Yeah, I agree, but

Speaker 2 it could also be something where it's like the kid putting up the scoreboards needs an extra message and just yeah, but

Speaker 1 it's one of those ones that like when the guy tweeted at me last night, I was like, I'm just going to believe it because I want to believe it.

Speaker 4 This is the next iteration of the kiss cam where they zoom in on somebody and then the chick goes for the kiss,

Speaker 4 or the guy goes for the kiss, and then the girl takes out her phone. They're just transferring it to a different part of the jumbo.

Speaker 1 But this is the world is a funner place when we just believe what's on the jumbo trail. Well, I don't want to just, you know, it's kind of sucks to be like, ah, it's not real.

Speaker 1 It turns into a feel-good story. Yeah.
Because the Brewers were down 5-3 when that message appeared in the eighth inning. Christian Yellow says, down two.

Speaker 1 In the eighth inning, the dugout looked up, saw this, and said, Let's win this one for Mark. Yeah.
Final score, 7-5 Brewers. Beautiful.
So shout out, Mark. So that changed.

Speaker 1 It was such a funny message, though. Like, let's not wreck this.
Just friend zone Mark. Yeah, so good luck to that guy.
My cool

Speaker 1 is Taylor Swift. She's dropping a new album in October, and everyone's going crazy.
You're a Swifty?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm a Swifty.
Harry Stein loves Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 4 I'm not ashamed to admit it. She's a bad bitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so October 21st.

Speaker 1 I look forward to all the girls making Taylor Swift's new album, their entire personality while I do something normal with my life and make the wins and losses of my football team my personality.

Speaker 4 All of Arkansas was Taylor Swift for the ride to the 405. The whole state of Arkansas

Speaker 1 has a lot of time. I mean, she does have jams.
She does. She objects to her.
Undeniable jams.

Speaker 4 You put on the 10-minute version of All Too Well, I'm crying and coming at the same time.

Speaker 1 And pooping because you're a poop. I know.

Speaker 1 That's a recent development.

Speaker 1 You don't do that. That's a recent development.
You don't do those two without the fact that.

Speaker 4 I didn't poop until

Speaker 1 it's BFT Triple Crown.

Speaker 4 It's the Jim Velvato. If you can come cry and poop at the same time, that's an awesome song.

Speaker 1 All right, good job, Jake.

Speaker 1 Let's get to our interview. Great interview with Bruce Arians in studio.

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Speaker 1 And now, here he is, Super Bowl champion Bruce Arians.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest and now Super Bowl champion Bruce Arians, head coach Bruce Arians, no longer head coach.

Speaker 1 He's now, I don't know, you're going to have to tell us your exact job title, like just sensei behind the scenes.

Speaker 7 Special counsel to analyst to the general manager.

Speaker 1 Okay. Something like that.
You're like hand of the king in the Game of Thrones. Yeah.
But he joins us. We're very excited to have you on.

Speaker 1 You're doing a campaign today about Novartis coaching cholesterol, which I kind of want to know about that because I feel like I should probably start at some point in my life looking after cholesterol.

Speaker 1 So what do we got to do to make sure we got good cholesterol?

Speaker 7 I'll tell you that my story was we play the Vikings.

Speaker 1 We get beat.

Speaker 7 Bad call. I'm pissed off the whole night.
You never want to wake your wife up at three in the morning, right?

Speaker 7 I think we need to go to the hospital.

Speaker 7 Chest pains, the whole thing.

Speaker 7 End up, I was lucky. I've just found out I had known heart disease, but it was literally just bad cholesterol.
You put bad cholesterol and stress together, that's a silent killer. Yes.

Speaker 7 So I teamed up with Novartis, with coachingcholesterol.com to try to get, you know, get people like yourself, hey, go get tested. Get a scorecard.
Yeah. Once a year, just get your blood test.

Speaker 7 Keep an an eye on it. It's easy.
Mine was diet, exercise, and medication. You know, and now I'm looking at some new stuff that's really good.

Speaker 1 That's great because, I mean, we definitely obviously are audience a bunch of guys who, you know, in their 20s, now 30s, some getting up there.

Speaker 1 It's like, hey, you've got to start actually looking after this stuff. Definitely.

Speaker 7 And if you're 35 to 40, get your PSA checked at the same time.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm going to do that. So last time we had you on, this is, it's kind of crazy because we have like a whole new chapter of your entire career that we can discuss.

Speaker 1 We had Bruce Arians on in his house at his beautiful lake house 2018, summer of 2018. You told us and clearly you were lying to us, so I would like an apology that you were retired, you were done.

Speaker 1 Flash forward six months later, you're coaching the Tampa Bay Bucks. Flash forward a couple years past that, you're winning the Super Bowl.
I mean, that's...

Speaker 7 It was crazy. Yeah, I was not looking to get back into coaching, you know.
And, you know, Jake, my son, he said, hey, you know, this Tampa thing, kind of interesting.

Speaker 7 You know, Jason's running the show.

Speaker 7 You guys are tight. Got a good young team.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 give him a call. Give him a call.
And they say, Jason's like, does he really want to get back in? It's like, but the kicker was Todd Bowles is available. Byron Lefford is available.

Speaker 7 18 coaches were available.

Speaker 7 It just was like, that's supposed to happen.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, let's go do it. And, you know, I look at my wife and say, I think we're going to get back in.
She goes, I said, you already know 18 wives, and it's close close to the grandkids.

Speaker 7 So you're good. She's like, all right, let's do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I read your book, The Quarterback Whisper. I actually think that was the last book that I read in like

Speaker 4 2017. I'm a voracious reader.
Everybody knows that about me. But I read the book, and there's like a common theme.
Every time you leave one job, your wife's like, You're not really retired.

Speaker 4 And you're like, Yes, I am. I'm really retired.
And then, sure enough, like a day after you have that conversation, the phone rings again. So I think we knew that you weren't going to stay retired.

Speaker 4 Right. You're a football coach.
So, like, now that you're not actually, you know, you are, as you said, what, special assistant to the general manager? Is that where we're going to be?

Speaker 1 Analyst or something. Analyst.
Okay. But

Speaker 4 are you actually, actually done coaching football?

Speaker 7 No, that's the beauty of my job. I go to practice every day.
Stand behind.

Speaker 7 I've always stood behind the quarterbacks to practice and throw my two cents in there and watch film with the coaches. And

Speaker 7 more involved with personnel now with Jason and Spytech and the guys in pro football office. And yeah, I'm having a blast.

Speaker 1 So you stand behind the quarterbacks. It's Tom Brady like, God damn it.
I thought I got rid of this guy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's like, yo, dude, what the hell are you looking at?

Speaker 1 Like, the whole point I came back was, you got to leave. That was a big rumor.

Speaker 7 Oh, it was a big one.

Speaker 7 Nothing could be further from the truth.

Speaker 7 We have a great relationship, you know, and I mean, yeah, Tom, he's asking more questions, and I'll throw him in the golf cart, and he's old enough now I can drive him off the field.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think one of your best attributes that I've heard, at least from players that have played with you, is that you're really good at motherfucking somebody while still getting them to love you.

Speaker 4 So what's the key to that? Because I got the motherfucking part down pretty good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's like the last thing Coach Bryant told me when I left Alabama to go to Temple was coach him hard and hug him later. And that's been my mantra, you know?

Speaker 7 So you're going to get your ass ripped, brother. If it ain't perfect, that's called coaching.
Don't take the shit personal. You're a hell of a guy.
Your football sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And is it one of those situations where you know right away that a player can understand that?

Speaker 1 Or you'll see a guy and you're like, this guy's going to have a problem here because he takes things personally and it's going to be hard to figure out a way for us to communicate.

Speaker 7 Yeah, each guy is different, you know,

Speaker 7 especially guys who grew up with no father figure and their moms kicked their ass all the time. It's different when a man tells them that.

Speaker 7 So it's like, you got to make sure you find that guy in the locker room after practice.

Speaker 1 So look, you're good. We'll get it right.

Speaker 7 Just don't be a moron.

Speaker 1 So today we're taping this. This is actually right when cut day is happening pretty much around the league.
What was your speech or what would you tell guys?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like you would do it in a personal way. Did you ever cry? Would you cry with the guys?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's tough man yeah especially if you know it's their last one right they ain't gonna get another shot right that dream is over and it's like

Speaker 1 find something else to do if you do you want to start coaching right you know you're there's some guys you know hey this got to be a hell of a coach and uh try to get them into coaching um gotten a bunch of guys in that way how many how many guys would you cut like in a day would you would you or would you spread it out and be like hey let's yeah personally i would just be like can we just do a couple like on saturday or something so i don't have to do them all today yeah normally uh in the old days you cut them all the same day.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 now it's like, let's hold on to some till the last second, right? So nobody else can get them. And so it's, yeah, it's hard.
I didn't meet with all of them individually.

Speaker 7 That was too, that's way too emotional. Right.

Speaker 7 It was a veteran. Hey, man.

Speaker 7 We let a guy go early this year so he can maybe catch on with another team. Right.

Speaker 1 What about when you cut Antonio Brown on the sidelines? Was that emotional?

Speaker 1 That was very emotional. Very high-pitched.

Speaker 4 Because that was an interesting cut.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, you've been around football a long time.

Speaker 4 I bet you probably haven't seen a player take off his gloves and his shirt and go running across the field kissing goodbye to the fans on their way to the bottom.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a unique individual. And, you know, he helped us win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, A.B.'s, he's a great player. Nobody works any harder than A.B.

Speaker 1 Did you, when that happens, when you're walking off the field after the game, are you like, Yeah, maybe it wasn't that big of a deal? Or did you know, like, oh, this is going to be a shit show?

Speaker 1 You knew it right off. Because, like, like i would delude myself and be like ah there's other games going on probably someone's watching it's the jets

Speaker 4 it was gonna be it was gonna be a story for a while yeah yeah and it was and we i remember we were watching it and i think we missed it when it happened initially and then we saw it and we're like is this pre-game like is this pre-game that he's waving to the fans and we're like no this is actually happening right this second and then you have to you have to be ready after the game's over to to answer jackasses like us who are going to ask you questions about it and you have to be like okay now how do i answer this in a legal way where i'm not going to get in trouble as a head coach?

Speaker 4 So did you have anybody that like advised you like, hey, here's what you have to say to the press right afterwards?

Speaker 7 No, they knew I wouldn't do it anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is that kind of the rule? It's a state way happens.

Speaker 1 It was good that it happened to you, like a grizzled, you know, guy who's been in the league for a long time because if it was like a new head coach, it would probably be

Speaker 1 hard. Yeah, very, very, very hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We were watching you last year. One thing that we liked

Speaker 4 about your look on the sideline, obviously the Kangal is iconic. We've always loved that.
The transition lenses, those are great too.

Speaker 4 The strap that you had across your chest, we would always try to figure out what the hell was in that strap because it looked kind of like you had a bomb put on your chest.

Speaker 1 This is what we're doing when we're watching football.

Speaker 4 You're the only coach that we saw wear that particular get-up. So can you walk us through what that pack was?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was a communication pack, but you usually wear it around your waist. But I had that thing so tight, it was killing this nerve going down my leg.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like by halftime, my leg was going numb, burning. I said, we got to come up with something new.
As soon as I take it off, it'll go away. So it's like, like, give me a shoulder strap.

Speaker 7 Plus, it was so much easier, man. Because, look right here, hell, I was so fat, I couldn't see it anyway.
And now it's like, oh, this is like, why doesn't everybody wear it over their shoulder?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it looks a lot cooler when the coach is like, you know, pushing something on their chest to communicate. You looked like you had you were, you know, especially when the referees come over.

Speaker 7 I'm gonna hit those bumps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Here you go.
Yeah, you also had to look.

Speaker 1 Um, the everyone, you know, again, this is what we watch for on Sundays, but during the pandemic, when coaches decided their different masks, you had one that was, it looked like it was just like the one you get, like, you can get like 100 for 10 bucks at Lowe's.

Speaker 1 You were just wearing like an old school painter's mask. Um, I like that.

Speaker 1 And you also had one where I think that where your face was just getting redder the whole time, and you were like suffocating from the mask.

Speaker 7 Dude, I must have got 30 different products to keep your glasses from fogging up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like, nothing works. I mean, you get hot, they fog up.
I mean, it drove me absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could tell.

Speaker 7 And the refs took most of the blunt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the worst part.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we couldn't tell if you were getting redder over the course of the season because you're not a sunscreen guy or because you were just getting madder at the refs and yelling at them more. But

Speaker 4 you actually look really good right now. Have you lost weight?

Speaker 7 Oh, I lost about 40.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 4 So is that going hand in hand with the cholesterol stuff?

Speaker 7 Yeah, definitely, definitely. Diet exercise.
I tore my Achilles. Well, not.
90% last year running in.

Speaker 1 What do you mean 90%?

Speaker 7 I got about 10% strand left, so

Speaker 7 I'm not doing any kind of surgery, man. I was like, as long as I can play golf, I'm good.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you didn't get any surgery? No. Jeez.

Speaker 4 You walked it off. You walked off a torn aquela.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and last year on the sideline, I had to wear this boot with high heels. Yeah.
So that screwed up all the muscles everywhere else.

Speaker 7 That's why I was so miserable on the sideline last year.

Speaker 1 That's a football guy to be like, oh, I got 10%. I'm good.
Yeah, 10% is better than nothing.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So you lost 40 pounds.
Help us out because we're trying to lose some weight. I'm trying to lose like 25 pounds.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, obviously diet and exercise. I mean, carbs, sugar,

Speaker 7 the stuff. That's my favorite.

Speaker 1 Does pizza have carbs?

Speaker 7 I mean, meat, pretzels, and bread. I mean, that's you got you got to go.
I tried the vegan thing, but all you eat is carbs. So I didn't lose.
I was a vegan for eight weeks, lost three pounds.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, God.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 4 If a vegan told me to go vegan and you'll lose weight, and I did it for eight weeks and I lost three pounds, I would slap him in the face.

Speaker 7 Oh, dude, that was so hard. Friendship over.
I was like, wait, I could get on the scale. No, don't get on the scale for a while.

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Speaker 7 No, the vegan was Arizona.

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I'll listen to you, coach.

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Speaker 1 All right, so Tom Brady, obviously we all, he's been probably the most covered athlete in the last two decades. Everyone knows he's a crazy, like, competitive,

Speaker 1 you know, he lives football. But what is it that when you like got with him and coached him that you're like, this is why he's different than everyone else that I coached?

Speaker 7 Not totally different than Peyton. They're the same animal.
Yeah. I mean, their

Speaker 7 need for information. I mean, I want to know

Speaker 7 every rock unturned before this game starts. What are we going to do in this scenario? What are we going to do in this scenario?

Speaker 7 Tell me about the DBs, like Spy Tech. They would meet all the DBs, have a book on D.
They had to have the information, and they would just decipher it. They would just go out and tear you up.
Right.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 they hate losing. They hate losing.
They hate playing bad.

Speaker 7 So it's like Tom's a little more demonstrative

Speaker 7 on the sideline.

Speaker 7 But it's great to watch him, great to work with him. And

Speaker 7 just a hell of a dude.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, were you even shocked at times when you're like, this guy's 43, 44 when he's winning a Super Bowl? Like, how is he, how's he doing? Because I think we've all had that thought.

Speaker 4 Like, how is he still doing?

Speaker 7 He's throwing better now.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. What is that? Like, what, has he changed his motion or anything?

Speaker 7 No, no, he's got great mechanics. And, you know, he's one of those full-body throwers.
He's not using all this arm. But

Speaker 7 Tom, he's an amazing human being as far as taking care of himself right away.

Speaker 7 But no, he's throwing the ball better than I've ever seen him throw it. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Was there any kind of feeling out period or getting used to period when he first started playing for you? Because

Speaker 4 you have to be yourself when you coach him. And Tom probably

Speaker 4 hasn't had somebody like you coaching him and giving that tough love that you were talking about earlier. Was there kind of a period where he was like, why is this guy yelling at me all the time?

Speaker 4 And you had to like figure it out? Or did you have to change some of the stuff that you did? Because you're like, you know what? It is Tom Brady. You change, yeah.

Speaker 7 You don't coach him the same way you coach a rookie. You know, he's the same.
You don't treat him the same way.

Speaker 7 So it's like, yeah, it was a little feeling out period, but hey.

Speaker 1 All we want to do is win.

Speaker 7 This is what it's going to take to win. Let's get it done.

Speaker 1 Would he ever get frustrated with you or the coaching staff if they weren't coaching everyone else like they might have coached them.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, the Patriots, obviously, everyone knows how Belichick runs his system. I think you're maybe a little bit more of a player's coach.

Speaker 1 Was he ever like, hey, you got to get harder on the guys?

Speaker 7 Oh, no. If you ever seen me at practice, you can't get any harder.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 7 Like I said, coach them hard, hug them later. But no, that part was never a problem.
And it was such a weird year that year. It was the pandemic.
And going into stadiums that were empty and no energy.

Speaker 7 I mean, pulling into Giant Stadium, play Sunday night football, and there's mist and a car in the parking lot.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 How do you get fired up to play? Right. And damn near got our ass beat.

Speaker 1 It's got to be nice for the offense, though. Like, oh, yeah, we don't hear fans.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, that part of it was.

Speaker 7 Now, me, I'm a trash talker, so I'd be hollering at the teams, other teams' players.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, they can hear me. Yeah, everyone can hear everything you're saying.
So the other Tom Brady question I had was that game against the Rams that you guys almost came back.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment where you're like, there's something about Tom Brady that just like makes these teams screw up around him? Because there was moments that was just like, how is this happening again?

Speaker 1 You know, watching like the 28-3 or the Malcolm Butler, like, how is this happening again?

Speaker 1 Obviously, you guys fell a little short, but like it, it felt like it was happening again where it's like this team is just falling apart and Tom Brady is just doing enough to be there at the right moment.

Speaker 7 Well, as long as Tom's on your sideline and there's time on the clock, you can win. Right.
And I think everybody on defense believes that. The entire organization believes it.

Speaker 7 So defense, let's go make something happen. So we've got to turn over, touchdown.
We've got to turn over touchdown. We're back, you know, and tie it up.
And then those last 42 seconds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that has to feel on the sideline something different. It's probably similar to the Peyton stuff, but like

Speaker 1 being on a team where it's like everyone believes in this one guy

Speaker 1 and that everything can work out if this one guy is here.

Speaker 7 Yeah, when he's at practice, it's a different level.

Speaker 1 How so?

Speaker 7 He's very demanding and everybody's going full speed, doing everything right, you know, and like I'm coaching a young receiver.

Speaker 7 hey, pump your arms, come out, you're break, you're slowing down, the ball's gonna be out in front of you.

Speaker 7 Same thing. He does it again.
So Tom throws in the ball. Hey, man, you gotta pump your arms.
I'm throwing the ball out in front of you.

Speaker 7 Next time the kids bump this, I say, can you go tell this guy to do this? Because he's gonna listen to you. He ain't listen to me.
He'll listen to you. And so that's a beauty of having.

Speaker 7 But no, when he's out there, it's a whole nother level.

Speaker 4 So you think Tom would be probably a pretty good head coach then if you wanted to get the coach.

Speaker 1 No. Really?

Speaker 7 He'd be way too demanding. Really? It's like working for Peyton.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're workaholics, man. They're workaholics.

Speaker 4 So which of your players that you've had recently would be a great NFL?

Speaker 4 You said that sometimes if there was a veteran, they want to stick around, get in coaching, you tell them, like, I'll help you out. What players playing right now do you think would make good coaches?

Speaker 7 I think Blaine Gabbard would be a good coach. He's been through it,

Speaker 7 knows it in and out.

Speaker 7 Defensively, Levante David would be a hell of a coach.

Speaker 7 That's the guy's playing. Now, we've got a bunch of players on our staff, former players on our staff that I think will be head coaches.
Byron should have been been a head coach last year.

Speaker 7 Larry Foote will be a head coach someday.

Speaker 4 So with Byron, it's interesting because I think if the Bucs play well this year, Byron should get a head coaching job, right? Although I feel like I've said that for the last couple of years. Exactly.

Speaker 4 But he should be one of the next guys in line to get a job. So Byron gets a job.
Todd Bulls comes back with the Bucs, and he calls you.

Speaker 4 He says, Coach, I need you. I need you to call plays for me next year.
What are you saying?

Speaker 7 Good luck, brother.

Speaker 7 I'll help whoever you got.

Speaker 1 I'll help whoever you got.

Speaker 4 Yeah, being a special advisor seems like a pretty cool job, honestly.

Speaker 7 It's the best. I mean, you worked 29 years in the league to get this job.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 4 It's better than being a coach. You don't get any of the blame if things go wrong.

Speaker 7 You never lose another game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. I didn't think about it that way.
It is great how you set up. Todd Bowles.
If we're going the different

Speaker 1 narrative that it wasn't because Tom Brady asked you to leave, we'll go with the different narrative. You set up Todd Bowles.

Speaker 1 I feel like you always have done that for your guys. What is that? Is that more rewarding sometimes than even just you winning games? Because

Speaker 1 it feels like you have set up all your guys to be in a position where they can get head coaching jobs or they get like Todd Bowles is walking into a team that is, I don't know, probably the second or third best team preseason.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. That doesn't happen.

Speaker 7 Yeah, secession was huge for me.

Speaker 7 Didn't happen in Arizona. And I wanted to make sure it happened here.

Speaker 7 And yeah, I mean, it's like as a father and you see your kid go out and he hits that home run or he makes that play and you're so proud, you know.

Speaker 7 For me, it's like watching my guys. I mean, like I said, 18, now 29 coaches we have on this staff, either I played with, coached, or for, with.
And so, yeah,

Speaker 7 it's very important to me.

Speaker 1 We should just remake Succession. Do you watch Succession on HBO?

Speaker 7 I'm going to have to start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be so boring with you because you'd just be like, first episode, like, all right, Kendall, you get the company.

Speaker 1 Good job.

Speaker 4 And then Kendall does a fantastic job.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Like, we sit there.
We're all awesome for you're like, Kindle, I love you. Yeah, I love you so much.
It actually would be nothing like the actual Super Show Succession.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Todd Bulls, I've been a longtime believer in Todd Bulls. When he was a coach of the Jets, I think I said on the show one time, he's a top 10 head coach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 It didn't work out for him in New York, but

Speaker 4 can you just sell me and sell our listeners on why Todd Bowles is going to be a good coach and was a good choice?

Speaker 7 Well, first of all, If you ask anybody in the entire Bucs organization, oh, yeah, he's a hell of a coach. I mean, what he did in the Super Bowl with that game plan.

Speaker 7 But everybody trusts him.

Speaker 1 And he's a great human being.

Speaker 7 But he knows the game. He can teach the game.
A lot of guys, you can know all the football in the world. If you can't teach it, what the hell are you doing? Right.

Speaker 7 But he's a great teacher. The players have such respect for him and the entire organization.

Speaker 7 The coaching staff. It's all set.
You know, everything was set. And he's a hell of a leader.

Speaker 7 He was one of my first captains at Temple back in 85. And so, yeah,

Speaker 7 like I said, he's like a second son.

Speaker 4 Did you have any inkling back when he was playing for you at Temple that this is a guy that I'm going to see again?

Speaker 7 He loves telling the story because he graduated. I said, hey, man, you might want to get into coaching.
I don't think the NFL is for you.

Speaker 7 He got pissed off when he was, he played 10 years with 264 rents.

Speaker 1 I'll show you.

Speaker 1 Little I knew. You motivated him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 when you're thinking about your entire career, and it's been an incredible career, what are the moments that you think were you got a lucky bounce? Because I'm always curious.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people get to a point in success and they kind of forget about the lucky bounces.

Speaker 1 What was the lucky bounce for you and maybe why was it like the Bears hiring Mark Trussman instead of you?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think this goes back to college. I wasn't going to come back for my fifth year.
I was trying to get a junior high coaching job. Got turned down and went back for a fifth year with a new coach.

Speaker 7 Ended up being

Speaker 7 captain of the team, MVP, and he started me in coaching.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 7 And Jimmy Sharp, one of the greatest coaches I've seen.

Speaker 1 Those are crazy moments because you just think about, like, well, yeah, what if you had just gotten that junior high coach? You could have been like a gym teacher or something.

Speaker 7 I'd been gone. Right.
I'd have taken it. And so, yeah, there's people like that in your life.
But for me,

Speaker 7 every time we got fired, we got a better job. And, you know, we all got fired in New Orleans.
I go to Alabama, get fired the first year. Thank God.
Coach in Peyton Manning the next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Things take off. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Getting fired at the right time is actually, it's a very underrated skill in life.

Speaker 1 It's a great, great thing.

Speaker 4 And sometimes you got to know when to not fight getting fired. Oh, exactly.

Speaker 1 And to just kind of roll with the punch. Let me roll out of here, please.

Speaker 4 And I think because you've had a few breaks go your way, you've had some people that believed in you. You find your guys and you try to give other people these breaks.

Speaker 4 The one that comes to my mind is Tyrann Matthew, who's a great player. And, you know, coming out of college, he was almost untouchable by a lot of teams.

Speaker 4 They took him off their draft board because he had, you know, in retrospect, some character issues that weren't really indicative of who he was as a person.

Speaker 4 So what was it about meeting with him that you thought to yourself, like, I can trust this guy. I see some of myself in this guy, or whatever the case may be, and we're going to bring him on.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, meeting him personally, he never blamed anybody else. I only blamed himself.
And this is how I'm going to fix it. And he has that persona about him.
You know, he's a lovable guy.

Speaker 7 If he had to blame somebody else, maybe thought twice about it. But, coach, this is what I did.
I did it. This is how I'm fixing it.
So we're going to take a shot. And

Speaker 7 my favorite draft choice of all time. Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 4 Did you know instantly when he got in the building, like first practice, this guy's different?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. And everybody saw it.
Yeah. We got a lot of veterans on that team, Patrick Peterson, Larry Gefische.
Hey, this guy's special.

Speaker 1 It obviously works in the other way where you draft someone and then they come to practice. You're like, whoops.

Speaker 1 That happens.

Speaker 1 That was a mistake. Yeah, that happens all the time.
Yeah, I'm always curious with the draft process because it does feel like talking to guys in the league.

Speaker 1 They know almost within the first two practices, like this guy's going to be a dude or this guy doesn't have it.

Speaker 1 Is there a way to fix that in the draft room?

Speaker 7 No, especially quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 Quarterbacks is like the most unknown science because you can't measure the two brains they play, the two muscles they play with. Their brain and their heart.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Now you can see he can throw, he can jump, he can run, but has he got grit?

Speaker 7 Can he lead? And

Speaker 7 so that's, you can't find that out until you get him. Yeah.
You know, and it's sometimes it's great, sometimes it's too late.

Speaker 1 And would you say, like, the quarterback position, do they have to be the leader of the team? Or have you been in locker rooms where it's like, maybe they aren't the number one leader of the team?

Speaker 7 Yeah, especially young ones. Yeah.
You know, I think back Super Bowl XXV, Ben came in, you just played quarterback, man. We got this for you.
You know, you got Jerome. You got all the guys on defense.

Speaker 7 Alan Fanneca, you just play quarterback. We got this.
You ain't got it. And he played great quarterback for us.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Would you ever get exasperated with Ben because he would, you know, after a tough loss or a tough game where maybe he got hit a couple times and he wanted to put on the walking boot and walk around the locker room and be like, yeah, I'm super banged up out here.

Speaker 4 You know, like doesn't even stop by the training table on the way back, just goes right out to the press. He's like, yeah, the doctor said I got pretty much like a spra, I got a

Speaker 4 sprained arm. The whole thing's sprained.
Would you ever like sit him down and be like, Ben, you're not hurt. It's okay.

Speaker 7 No, no, because he always was.

Speaker 1 Was he really? Yeah.

Speaker 7 The dude took, he's one of the toughest dudes I ever coached. And no,

Speaker 7 if he talked about it, it was real. I mean, he played, I saw saw a picture of

Speaker 7 the bruise on his hip last year in the beginning of the season. Was like, how the hell are you even playing? Right.

Speaker 7 I got to play.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you talk to him at all anymore? Did he talk to you when he decided that he was going to retire? Because we think he could do one more year.

Speaker 7 I thought so.

Speaker 7 I was trying to talk him out to it myself.

Speaker 1 Print that. But that would be the big deal.
Yeah. Big Ben should do one more year.

Speaker 7 But no, he's done. He's happy.
Yeah. We had dinner at the lake right before I went back to training camp.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because he's at the lake with you.

Speaker 7 He was like, dude, I'm not missing it.

Speaker 1 I i said that's great yeah i still can't believe going to your house at that lake house i can't believe you went back to coaching because that lake house is incredible i remember walking in and being like well this is what retirement should look like yeah it's hard to get my wife to ever come to out yeah i would yeah you were like oh yeah i got a helicopter that's going to take me for cbs it's like i would just feel like that didn't work out yeah no that didn't work out yeah did you did somebody felt me a they they they they fed me a good lie that time yeah wait so you didn't get the helicopter no no i'm driving at three o'clock in the morning every every week.

Speaker 4 They had to derecruit you. It was like trying to get you to go to campus, and you get there, and you're like, you're not special anymore.

Speaker 1 You had it all set up. You're like, yeah, I'm going to just take a helicopter, be good there.
Did you like doing media or was it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was fun. Yeah.
But the travel was bad. Yeah.
That was hard because I live so far away from the airport. Right.
You know, and

Speaker 1 that's a lot of work.

Speaker 7 When I was kidding Tom, I said, man, you know

Speaker 7 how hard work that is? He said, tell me about it. What do I got to do? I said, of course.

Speaker 7 I said, oh, be easy. You'll be flying private.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. right.

Speaker 4 So you think Tom's going to do a good job in the booth when he retires?

Speaker 7 Oh, Tom will do great

Speaker 7 because he's a perfectionist. He's going to find out, talk to the right people.
He'll be great at it.

Speaker 4 Does it ever get exhausting hanging out with Tom because he is such a perfectionist? Are there some people that just

Speaker 4 can't deal with that level of intensity all the time?

Speaker 7 No, it's fun playing golf with him. He gets as mad as I do.

Speaker 7 It's always fun playing golf with him.

Speaker 1 Are you wearing the watch he bought you?

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, that is. Okay, so there it is.
That was, I like that you were like, Tom and I are friends. He bought me a watch.
And it was like, case closed. He bought you a watch.
So if you're wearing it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then it counts.

Speaker 1 If you weren't wearing it, I would have been like, huh, you're suspect. Exactly.
Yeah, that's not a real friendship. Yeah.
So that, all right, so case closed.

Speaker 4 This is an easy question. Who's better, Peyton or Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 I'm not going there, bro.

Speaker 4 How about we break it down? You said, what,

Speaker 4 the heart, right? What did you say? You throw with your heart, you throw with your mind, your grit,

Speaker 4 and your arm. So So of those four attributes,

Speaker 4 as far as grit, who's grittier, Peyton or Tom?

Speaker 1 They're equal.

Speaker 4 You're going to say that everything's equal, aren't you?

Speaker 7 Heart? I mean,

Speaker 1 equal. Lion, two lions, two.
Arm.

Speaker 7 At 45 versus Peyton at 40, Tom. But at 25, they're both then.
Okay.

Speaker 4 And then Brain.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, they're both. That's big bad.
They're both off the charts. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Andrew Luck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Number one. Really?

Speaker 4 Best quarterback you ever coached?

Speaker 7 I only had him as a rookie, but he was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 We're trying to get him on this show. He's like kind of a new white whale of ours because he doesn't do any media.
And I think we're now at a point. He's so happy, man.

Speaker 7 I know. I saw him at Chuck's.
It's hard to believe Chuck's cancer thing is 10 years. That's incredible.
You know, and we went to the fundraiser and saw Andrew out in the parking lot. He's a happy guy.

Speaker 1 Just great. It's crazy, too, that when you think about him retiring, it felt like it feels like 10 years ago.
It was three years ago. Three years ago, and he's, you know, he hasn't looked back.

Speaker 1 And I think there's that, that time that happens where a guy retires early like Barry Sanders, you're like, oh, maybe he'll come back. There's no chance he's coming back, right? None.

Speaker 4 None. I kind of admire him for being able to walk away from something that he was the best in the world at.
And to hear you say that he's the best quarterback that you've ever coached. I mean,

Speaker 1 as a rookie, as a role.

Speaker 4 As a rookie, to walk away from all that and, you know, potentially a limitless NFL career because you don't actually love it, that takes a lot of balls to do that.

Speaker 4 Because I think a lot of guys, they keep playing football either because they get addicted to the money or because they think that's something that they're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 And it's something that they've done all their lives. And they don't have that inner will to be able to say, you know what? I'm actually not happy.
I'm going to go do something that makes me happy.

Speaker 4 So I have a lot of respect for Andrew Luck for doing that.

Speaker 7 I mean, four straight years of rehabilitation will wear you out mentally.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, and he was taking a beating. And again, tough as nails.
I mean,

Speaker 7 he's the only quarterback that throws an interception and hits as hard as the linebacker because he's pissed off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. That definitely did happen all the time with Andrew.
Luck, I have a very important question for you. It's going to kind of change my mood today.
Do you remember Steven Che?

Speaker 1 The guy who did Bucks Fantasy Camp. He came down.

Speaker 1 Spy Tech had him running around.

Speaker 1 He did it this year. He did it a couple years ago, too.
Do you remember him at all? He tried to give you some plays at the bar.

Speaker 7 He gave you.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Okay.
Did you ever use the play? No. Good.

Speaker 1 All right. That was.

Speaker 1 If you had said yes and you had remembered him.

Speaker 1 I got him back.

Speaker 7 I'm in now. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 1 No. So when he gave you that play, were you like, this? Like, did you just throw it in the trash? Like, this guy? Thanks, buddy.
Yeah. Smart.
Good. He actually was supposed to be here today.

Speaker 1 He, he just,

Speaker 1 he's dealing with COVID and his family, so he can't be here. But I was like very nervous that you're going to be like, oh, yeah, that guy, he's an up-and-coming genius.

Speaker 1 And I was going to be like, all right, this interview is over we can't do this anymore the only the only person i ever let call plays

Speaker 7 we had we had a young guy at temple was in a wheelchair kanji and he had spina bifida so he'd mom would bring the practices and and he would draw up a play for me and we've run the first play where he'd have crazy reverses and you know we've got paul palmer leading the nation in rushing so finally he said hey let's just give it to paul up the middle yeah right he's jumping out i'm with you on that

Speaker 4 he's learning yeah that's great uh i we had nathaniel hackett on the show a couple weeks ago and he was asking asking me for some advice because I have done some consulting with some NFL coaches about kind of implementing rugby strategies into the NFL.

Speaker 4 I told him, I don't want to tell you, because we have Bruce Arians coming on, and I like your offense better than Nathaniel Hackett's. So I'm going to share it with you exclusively.

Speaker 4 The laterals are going to change the game. Designed downfield laterals are going to be the next evolution in football.

Speaker 4 When you have, you know, not just the hook and ladder play, but a guy that's getting tackled and being able to wrap around and offload to a player that they know they're going to be on their hip pocket, it works really well in rugby.

Speaker 4 And I'm convinced that if a coach practices enough, and the coach has to have job security, because

Speaker 4 if there's turnovers, you know, turnovers will kill you.

Speaker 4 But if you practice it correctly and you do it smartly and pick your spots, I truly believe that's going to be the next big wave in offensive football in the NFL.

Speaker 4 If you want to take that, I'll be special advisor to the special advisor. You got it.
And

Speaker 4 I would be honored to teach teach you more about this strategy. I'm going to bring in some guys from Fiji to help.

Speaker 4 We're going to go nationwide and do a camp teaching NFL and college head coaches how to implement this downfield lateral strategy. Yeah, but

Speaker 7 spacing is so big in our passing game. We don't have two guys next to each other.

Speaker 7 So it's very hard to get that guy. All right.

Speaker 7 It's like the hook and lateral stuff. Yeah.
You're running towards a guy.

Speaker 7 You could probably implement something,

Speaker 7 but it's going to be high risk, high reward.

Speaker 4 Well, the reward is Super Bowls. Yeah.
So I'm here to offer you another Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that something you're going to do?

Speaker 7 I'm not going to lose another game.

Speaker 1 That's true. All right.
So since you're out of coaching, I have a coaching hypothetical for you that maybe you can speak on.

Speaker 1 Let's say Championship Sunday, okay?

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 fourth and eight, and you're on the goal line. So it's fourth and eight, fourth and goal from the eight, and you are down eight points.
Do you kick the field goal or do you go for it?

Speaker 1 Also, Tom Brady's on the other sideline.

Speaker 7 On the other sideline? How much time's left?

Speaker 1 There's like two and some change.

Speaker 7 Oh, you got to go for it. You do? Okay.
Eight minutes left. I'm kicking the field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, but put it.

Speaker 1 Two minutes, you got to go for it.

Speaker 7 Unless I got three timeouts.

Speaker 1 So when Matt LaFleur did that, were you like, what the hell is he doing?

Speaker 7 No, I actually thought it was the right thing.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 7 He had a two-minute warning and three timeouts.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 You had Tom Brady. You had Tom Brady.

Speaker 7 He had to believe he was getting that ball back. Right.

Speaker 1 But you had Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 But he could go for it, and if he doesn't get it, he could still believe he's getting the ball back and go for it again.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We think he was trying to kick three field goals to beat you guys.

Speaker 7 I think just one and get the ball back and let Aaron do his.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because he's got Aaron Rodgers.
Right. But you have Tom Brady.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Interesting.
Yeah. Yeah.
You guys did win.

Speaker 4 Is there any other quarterback that's in the game right now that

Speaker 4 you want to coach?

Speaker 4 I won't say that you want to coach, but that you watch play and you're like. I would love to coach this guy.

Speaker 7 Oh, I thought for sure when we're in Arizona, we're getting Patrick Mahomes. Really? As that draft was falling, I was like, he's ours.
It's either him or Deshaun. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And but Pat was right, he was right there at Kansas. He doesn't need a quarterback.

Speaker 7 They take him. He's like, what? They got Alex Smith, just won their Pro Bowl.
And we thought he would, and we loved him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so you actually had him higher than most on your draft board. You probably were like, I can't believe you had him first overall.

Speaker 7 I went out to Lubbock and worked him out personally.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 skill-wise, it's off the chart. But mentally, he was right right there with Peyton and Andrew and Tom.
I mean, he's like sharp. Right.
I mean, just really sharp.

Speaker 4 So he starts falling. And are you thinking to yourself, like, what are these other teams seeing that I'm not seeing?

Speaker 7 No, I mean, because there was a lot of knocks on the way, the offense he was coming out of and things like that. But just the four teams in front of us, no one needed a quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So did you, how much when you were looking at quarterbacks, did you take into account the car they drove? Was that an important part of the process? Yeah, you got to talk about swagger, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, A little bit. Or lack of.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or like if they drove like an old car, it's like, hey, they've been driving the same car for 20 years.

Speaker 7 The reason. Okay.
I want to know the reason why you're in that car.

Speaker 1 Well, if it's a good reason, then I guess you got to draft the guy. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. So yeah.
So that's why you took Mitch. Yeah.
Mitch had to be drafted. He had a car.

Speaker 1 He had an old car that he drove around. Yeah, that makes sense.
Patrick Mahomes, bust. Mitch Trubisky, got to draft him.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 All right. So I had one last question for you, Cody.

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Speaker 1 So, Tom Brady,

Speaker 1 how long do you think he actually will keep playing?

Speaker 1 I know he said, I think he's always said 45, so this is 45, but from your estimation, like just watching him day to day, do you think he's going to play three, four more years?

Speaker 1 Because we're at the point now where we're just, nothing surprises me.

Speaker 7 With Tom, nothing surprised me because he's in such unbelievable shape. Like I said, he's throwing the ball better than he did two years ago.
Right. And so much of it's his personal life.

Speaker 7 You know, I think he's got decisions.

Speaker 7 But as far as being able to play, he can still play.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It would really be a weird situation if he just kept getting better or kept staying the same and kept expecting after every year, like, I'm going to feel bad after this season. Might as well retire.

Speaker 4 But then he just keeps going. Like, I could honestly see Tom Brady playing for another five years.

Speaker 7 I don't know about five, but a couple for sure.

Speaker 1 He looks young.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. He looks great, doesn't he?

Speaker 1 Very young. Fantastic.
What's his secret?

Speaker 7 TB12.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's

Speaker 7 drinking all that water. He drinks, man.

Speaker 4 Does he walk around? So I started carrying this around. I feel like a freak.

Speaker 7 Like an absolute. This is twice that size.

Speaker 4 And how many times does he fill that up per day?

Speaker 7 I think at least two.

Speaker 7 He drinks his body weight and water every day.

Speaker 1 Was he when he came to, because you know, there was obviously stories written that maybe the TB12 stuff with his trainer had a little tension in New England.

Speaker 1 When he came to Tampa, it was like, you get to do whatever you want. Oh, Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Alex, open arms. Help me, brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Help me.
Yeah. That's, I mean, it obviously worked.
Super Bowl champion. I mean, it is crazy to have you back on.
Like I said, when we were in your basement, you're like, I'm retired.

Speaker 1 I'm done. Talking about helicopters taking a CBS.
And it's just like, all right.

Speaker 7 Then you want to leave. The only guy who's got me beats Favre.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I've unretired three times.

Speaker 1 Favre. Yeah.
Favre, I think he had three, right? I'm still waiting for another one, too. It's Favre.
He definitely, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he definitely gets out out there

Speaker 1 every spring, like, oh, the old cannon's feeling good.

Speaker 4 Is there like a specific sliding doors moment where

Speaker 4 you thought that you were retired, actually, actually retired, and you were very close to staying retired, but finally got, you know, somebody convinced you to come back?

Speaker 4 Like, I have to imagine that when you left Pittsburgh, you thought that you were, that was actually it for you, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So what happened there? Because I remember when I read about that the first time, it seemed like you were completely checked out of football. This is it.

Speaker 4 Time to hit the golf course, have a few cocktails, fade into the sunset.

Speaker 7 Well, I can still hit the golf course and still drink the cocktails, but it was Chuck. Chuck called, and

Speaker 7 the idea of

Speaker 7 getting a young quarterback again got me fired up, and whether it was going to be RG3 or Andrew. And so, yeah, that started it.
And then the health things in Phoenix,

Speaker 7 they got scary. Yeah.
The cancer thing was, okay, this snuff's snuff's enough. And then

Speaker 7 Jake calling Jason and say,

Speaker 7 let's do this in Tampa. Right.

Speaker 1 That's a good son. But you're officially, officially.

Speaker 1 Officially. I'm officially officially.
I don't believe in it at all.

Speaker 4 You're going to officially, the less I believe.

Speaker 7 I got my last flag two weeks ago. Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 7 We're practicing against the Titans. Okay.
And I'm cussing out the rep. He threw a flag on me and said, you ain't the head coach number.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 7 I'm going to the press box.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I fully expect in five years for you to come back

Speaker 1 on this show, you're going to be retired again with another Super Bowl, and you'll be like, yeah, Tom Brady's still young as ever. He just won

Speaker 1 his 10th Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1 Okay, time for Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of Living Legends.
Are you going to poop? No.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of Living Legends because we're in Stu Finer's basement.

Speaker 1 Jilly

Speaker 1 won on Monday. We feel good right now.

Speaker 4 Pass through our Mount Rushmores. Two dubs, two seconds.
You guys are hot. A lot of people are saying it's almost Albert Pujo's like.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All drug tests.

Speaker 1 And we know you will.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 So. Jake's the first guy.

Speaker 1 Why would you bring that? Like, Abby won't.

Speaker 4 Out of everybody that I've met in my life, if I ever need clean piss, I'm going to Jake's door first.

Speaker 2 If Billy came, if Billy came to you for clean piss, would you do it?

Speaker 1 Ooh, great question.

Speaker 2 There's no DNA.

Speaker 1 There's no DNA in piss.

Speaker 1 So they can't trace it out of the way. In terms of if

Speaker 1 he fails it, we get disqualified?

Speaker 1 No, like like he was like, no, it's like Billy comes up.

Speaker 2 Like, he's like, yo, Big Cat's making me take a drug test. If I fail it, I'm fired.

Speaker 1 Like, I need your piss. No, because if I get caught with you.
Okay, what about this? What if Billy comes in? He's out of breath, and there's sirens going on, and

Speaker 1 he's like, Jake, I'm in a jam. I need your cum real f ⁇ ing.
What do you do?

Speaker 1 He's like, it's life or death. I'm going to jail for a very long.
He's like, I'm going to jail for a very long time unless I can get some of your cum. I'll go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 love it.

Speaker 4 What if he's like, I just need it on my face?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's just Jake and Billy's Saturday night. All right.

Speaker 4 You guys decide.

Speaker 1 Order. Living Legends is the Mount Rushmore in honor of Stu Feiner and Hank is teamed up with Stu Finer.
So we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 7 We should take first.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would think we have, I don't know if we have a clear cut one-one.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 4 Dissension amongst the ranks.

Speaker 4 Look what a little bit of success does to these. Are we lost?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll go third. Hank can go first.
Okay. And Kat Kong, we'll go second.
Nice. All right.

Speaker 4 Hank, you're 1-1. And Stu has been texting Hank non-stop this entire episode, so I'm sure that Hank's got a lot to choose from here.

Speaker 2 1-1

Speaker 2 Hezbollah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 4 Yeah, going heavy on the internet.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 2 He's a living legend.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. Interesting pick.

Speaker 1 Is Stu on your team? He won't fight Abdu. Or Jack McGuire.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Jack Mac. I love him.
I mean, it's just bull. Free Jack Mac.
He got free. When have you been free?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's free? All right. Well, congrats to me.
I just freed him. Good job by me.

Speaker 1 Another dub in my fucking book here. I freed that guy because I like him.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right. That's your 1-1.

Speaker 1 That's your 1-1.

Speaker 1 Is that your 1-1? Are you deaf? Okay, that's your 1-1.

Speaker 1 All right. R1-1.
Do you like that, PFT?

Speaker 4 I mean, I think that we have some other good ones.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 you go with what you're feeling, 1-1, because we do have a great list. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm shocked that Hank went with Hasbula instead of the GOAT, Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Michael Jordan, living legend. That's why the best basketball player of all time.

Speaker 4 Maybe the most important athletic figure besides Secretariat and Tachin Soltekar of all time.

Speaker 1 Also, he has gotten cooler with age. His brand still sells millions of sneakers.
Yeah, he's a living legend.

Speaker 4 He swaggerjacked the Hitler stash from Hitler. That's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's kind of like, I feel like it's driving. He walks into a room.

Speaker 2 He was so unsuccessful as an owner.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is not correct. Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 Did you just say he's an owner of a basketball team? You're right. He is.

Speaker 1 And also.

Speaker 4 Despite being so good at basketball.

Speaker 1 Adam Morrison, he thought, was going to be good. Although I don't know.

Speaker 1 Was that his pick?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it was. And Kwame Brown had all the tools.

Speaker 1 All the tools. Listen, Michael Jordan walks in a room.
It stops the room.

Speaker 4 Guaranteed. He is the room.
He is the one who

Speaker 4 is.

Speaker 1 He's the greatest basketball player of all time.

Speaker 2 That goes for Hezbollah as well. The greatest

Speaker 1 basketball player of all time?

Speaker 2 No, he walks in a room. Everyone stops.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Because that's true.

Speaker 1 If you're on the other side of the room, Hezbollah walks in.

Speaker 2 You stop? Yeah, because everyone else is like, you hear, all of a sudden, it's like a hush, and then everyone's like, oh,

Speaker 1 okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 How many rooms have you been in with Hezbollah?

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, none because I'm not as much of a living legend.

Speaker 1 You go to any country in the world, and they're like Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 Hezbollah. No.
He's got international. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't think Michael Jordan's big in China?

Speaker 2 There's other countries than just China. Okay.

Speaker 1 Kagistan?

Speaker 2 How big do you think Michael Jordan is in Tagen?

Speaker 1 Smash it.

Speaker 2 Smash it. But not as big as Hezbollah.

Speaker 1 I disagree. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That was an easy one, one.

Speaker 1 We're going to go in a similar category to you guys, change sports, and take Tom Brady. Ooh, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.
And then I think.

Speaker 1 Is he alive, though? No, I think what me and Max said.

Speaker 1 I like where we're going to go because I think we should go four different categories and just stunt on him.

Speaker 4 I mean, we got the best athlete.

Speaker 1 We just stunt on him.

Speaker 1 I think it's. Did you guys have Jordan as your 1-1? Yeah, we were going to take M.
John. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Good pick by us.

Speaker 1 Billy doesn't want to go with what me and Max have. Okay.
So that means pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I might just say it then, Billy. All right, say it.

Speaker 1 Say it. Okay,

Speaker 1 say it. He doesn't like this pick.
Say it. The rock.
Oh, I like it. The rock.
The rock rock. All right.
All right. That's a good pick.
Yeah. Everyone loves the rocks.
You know what the rocks do.

Speaker 1 He's cooking. He is.

Speaker 1 I believe we now do.

Speaker 1 I think we can just go everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can mix it up a little bit. I think maybe we, you know what we should go? Do we want to do this? Because I think the one I sent you, no one's going to have.
Sure. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's go with

Speaker 1 the guy who's got like 100% likability rating, puts out incredible movies for the last 40 years, Adam Sandler. Living legend.
Great pick.

Speaker 1 Also, just goes viral every other day for just dropping dimes in a pickup moves game.

Speaker 4 he goes viral for being a good friend all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When I see Adam Sandler trending, it's usually because he did something awesome to help out some loser like Rob Schneider. Yes.
Not necessarily because he put out a new movie. Correct.

Speaker 4 No offense to Rob Schneider. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll love to have him back on.

Speaker 2 All right, I'm going to go with one of mine. One of mine and one of Stu's.
I'll let you guys pick.

Speaker 1 Okay, we can decide which one.

Speaker 2 Charles Barkley.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good pick.

Speaker 4 I mean, Jordan dominated him

Speaker 4 in the decades.

Speaker 1 He mentally dominated him in the finals.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but who are you tuning tuning into every week to hear about their basketball tech?

Speaker 1 Michael Jordan or Charles Marks? To host that show, he could.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. Yeah, he could.

Speaker 1 He could fire everyone. He's on my show now.

Speaker 2 It's not easy just turning on a mic and being entertaining. You guys know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 Any asshole can do it.

Speaker 1 No, they can't.

Speaker 2 That's the argument you guys are trying to make.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, we make that argument every day by us existing.

Speaker 1 We are truly assholes with a mic in front of us.

Speaker 2 And Dua Lipa.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, that's your pick.
Yeah. Yeah.
Stu loves Dewey Lipa. Loves Dewey Lipa.
All right.

Speaker 4 She's not even the goat of singers.

Speaker 1 Okay, we got a lot.

Speaker 4 By the way, so memes has been helping us out. Memes has sent us a couple of alive or dead people.

Speaker 1 Yes, very dead.

Speaker 2 Stu has sent me about 35 dead people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Memes sent us Walter Payton, who died in 1990.
I threw him Muhammad Ali in. But like, you guys are just going, yeah.

Speaker 1 What are we doing? What are we doing? What did we do wrong this morning?

Speaker 1 What are we doing? You're perfect.

Speaker 4 Help us be honest.

Speaker 1 No, I'll be half as good as you.

Speaker 2 I'm done the worst.

Speaker 1 Okay, I think, you know what? Let's do this because this one they can't.

Speaker 1 I think we can save the first one you just sent me. I think we could get this one and just rock everyone.
I mean, that is an objectable.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 4 All right. Objective? Yeah.
Objective. Unobjectable.

Speaker 1 Unobjectable.

Speaker 4 Unimpeachable Buzz Aldrin. Buzz Aldrin.
The man who was on the moon.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, was he, though? Yeah, he was. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 Is he the last remaining man on the moon, too?

Speaker 4 I think he is. Yeah.
So Buzz Aldrin, and also he punched that dude in the face.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I feel like Stanley Kubrick should be the what a fucking legend Buzz Aldrin is.
Stanley Kubrick. He's a great one.

Speaker 4 You know what's going to happen? Like half the people that we name are going to die. Yeah.
Like real soon. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're definitely jinxing.

Speaker 1 Oh, the queen. Damn.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Sister Gene.

Speaker 4 Heaven forbid.

Speaker 4 Our first pick

Speaker 1 is going to be Wayne Gretzky. Okay, we have

Speaker 1 him. Yes, that's a living legend, yes.

Speaker 1 And then we're going going to go with Marcus Luttrell.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.
All right. Yeah, fellow troop.
Yeah. Yeah.
Living legend. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 I thought we were going elsewhere. Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, Max.

Speaker 1 You weren't on the right page. Oh.
No, he said he was good with something.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't have a mic, but.

Speaker 4 I just said I was throwing that name also out there. I wasn't, we were good, but I was just saying I was throwing that in there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Marcus Luttrell.

Speaker 1 All right, living legend. I like how you're holding that mic like your camera on.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 2 I would, you know, I'm never gonna argue against the troops, Billy, but like, are you there's a lot of people that probably see that name and don't even know what that's from?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, those are the people that don't. Yeah, Matt, you don't have to hold the mic like you're Fred Durst because I can't.

Speaker 1 All right, so we went

Speaker 1 Michael Jordan, we went Adam Sandler, we went uh Buzz Aldrin, so we've done it all. I think we got to finish with

Speaker 1 a living, a true living legend, Lisa Ann. Yeah, I mean, Lisa Ann is a true living legend.

Speaker 4 She turned so many boys into men.

Speaker 1 And she also, like, every now and then comes out of retirement, and it's like an event.

Speaker 2 And she comes to the office sometimes.

Speaker 1 And she comes to the office. And she's a living legend.

Speaker 4 And she's a very nice person.

Speaker 1 And a very nice person.

Speaker 4 I shook her hand once.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's impressive.
Is that why you haven't washed your hand?

Speaker 4 You know, he's just smelling it. That's why he's holding the mic up to his face so close.

Speaker 1 All right, so Hank, finishing us off. There's so many living legends.

Speaker 2 Should I go with one of mine or one of Stu's?

Speaker 4 Why don't you not tell us, and then we'll figure out whose it was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 That's a good pick. That's on our list.
That was a good look.

Speaker 1 That was a good pick, Stu.

Speaker 4 That's a good pick, Stu.

Speaker 1 That was. Yeah.
That was. That's a good pick, Stu.

Speaker 4 Good job, Stu.

Speaker 4 Oh, he was at the U.S. Open.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to rattle off this list.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, all right, so

Speaker 1 other ones, and then we'll finish with the Stu's list. Robert De Niro or Al Pacino, both living legends, absolute living legends.

Speaker 1 De Niro got political, though.

Speaker 2 When you're a living legend,

Speaker 2 that can affect your

Speaker 1 legends.

Speaker 4 I mean, Muhammad Ali was political his entire life.

Speaker 1 And also, you're kind of proving the point that Michael Jordan was the greatest pick.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That was a good pick.
Yeah. Okay.
It was a good pick. Yeah, we had great picks.

Speaker 2 But like Hezbollah objectively is way bigger.

Speaker 1 We had Oprah.

Speaker 1 Oprah was the one I wanted to say. Oh, Oprah's a good one.

Speaker 8 We had Sabin and Belichick.

Speaker 4 Dolly Parton. Yeah,

Speaker 4 Dolly is truly a living one.

Speaker 1 Pamela Anderson.

Speaker 4 Alexis, Texas.

Speaker 1 I had a couple that I knew weren't going to get picked, but I just had to say it in the group chat: Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal.

Speaker 1 We did Arnold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we had Arnold as well.

Speaker 2 I went with the Stu Dualipa. If I was going for

Speaker 2 a women singer, I would have gone with Rihanna.

Speaker 1 Beyonce. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your guy. Rihanna's got the.
Oh, Stevie Nicks. Your guy.

Speaker 1 Jack Niklaus. Oh, Jackie Klaus.

Speaker 1 Jack Nicholas. Jack Nikla.
Jack Niklaus would have been a great pick. Jack Nicklaus.
And Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 4 Jack Nicholson, Guy Fieri. Yep.
A living legend.

Speaker 1 Paul McCartney. This is Steve Irwin.

Speaker 4 God damn it. He died.

Speaker 1 He got stung by a stingray.

Speaker 1 Are you serious?

Speaker 1 He was a goat. Are you serious? No, we were talking about

Speaker 1 Steve Irwin.

Speaker 4 Like, we talked about Steve Irwin for about 30 minutes yesterday on Macro.

Speaker 1 So damn,

Speaker 1 I know. He's famously dead.

Speaker 4 But he's a legend. I was thinking of legends.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not the thing. He's a living legend.
He's a digital legend. In honor of Stu Feiner, who is very much alive and a living legend.
Your source. Pele?

Speaker 1 Yep. Pele.

Speaker 1 Lyndon Donald. Oh, Ronaldo?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 Messi. Messi.
Meme suggested Hugh Hefner, also very dead. Very dead.

Speaker 2 Sue suggested that him as well.

Speaker 1 Brett Hart, the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. I mean, that's just the best tagline.
Ric Flair.

Speaker 4 Willie Mays.

Speaker 4 Willie Nelson.

Speaker 1 Willie Mays is not dead. He's alive.
Barry Bonds just took that picture, and I should tweet that right now, actually. I'm going to live tweeting.

Speaker 1 Barry Bonds?

Speaker 1 Who's the guy in the commercials who passed away?

Speaker 4 OxyClean.

Speaker 1 Billy Mays.

Speaker 1 You mistook Willie Mays for Billy Mays.

Speaker 1 Ozzy Ozzy Mays. I had Ozzy.
Wow. That's wild.

Speaker 1 Should I say Rip Willie Mays or just tweet the picture? That's the all-time picture. He looks

Speaker 1 like he's real.

Speaker 1 I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 Wow. Should I say Rip? Oh, Berman.
Oh, yeah. Chris Berman.
We had that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Here's Stu's list.
Stu Feiner's Living Legends list.

Speaker 2 If some of these people come up twice, I don't know the reason for it, but here we go. This is a succession of like 10 text messages.

Speaker 2 Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, LeBron, Tom Seaver, Billy Smith, Keith Hernandez, Dua Lipa, Joe Montana, Lawrence Taylor, Taylor Swift, John L.

Speaker 2 Way, Sugar Roy Leonard, Mike Tyson, Ronaldo, Bill Walsh, DeGrom, John Madden, Ken Stabler, Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jerry Rice, Pete Rose, Einstein, Freud, Moses, Jesus,

Speaker 2 Bruce Springstreen, Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, Mark Spitz, Mike Lupica,

Speaker 1 Phil Parcels,

Speaker 1 Derek Cheeter, Joe Torrey, Hugh Hafner, Al Pacino, Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson, Tom Cruise, Bono, Mike Piazza, Reggie Jackson.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mike Lupica.

Speaker 1 Do you want to go with Mitch album?

Speaker 4 Mike Lupica has got to be...

Speaker 1 He He doesn't like Mitch Album.

Speaker 4 He's got to be so excited hearing his name on that list.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 1 What a great list.

Speaker 1 All right. Great show, everyone.

Speaker 1 We're about to tape with Stu for NFL Futures, which will come out next Wednesday before

Speaker 1 the kickoff on Thursday.

Speaker 2 Stu, I think we got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you guys got it for sure.

Speaker 1 It was a great pick.

Speaker 1 Great pick. I mean, it will play on the internet.
That's the only thing. It plays everywhere.

Speaker 2 Michael Jordan and his bullet walk in the room.

Speaker 1 No! One's looking way taller. Yeah, exactly.
So they're looking down. No, no, no.
They see Michael Jordan from across the room because they're like, holy shit, that guy, that's Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 No. Shaq.
Shaq's a good one. Shaq is a good one.
Shaq is definitely a living legend.

Speaker 1 Okay. Great show, everyone.
Numbers? Random numbers? 26.

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Speaker 1 Random number generator. Hank, will you be upset if you get one of these?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would. It'll be Mickey Mouse.
All right. I'm going to go with

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Speaker 2 We got the ping-pong ball machine sold. I think that's going to be my key to victory.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. Stu, pick a number.
0 to 100. 31.
31. That was quick.
Oh, that's your birthday. That's me and PFT.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Birthday bros. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Who's that guy on the TikTok?

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Speaker 1 The guy on TikTok.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joshua. All right, here we go.
Ready?

Speaker 1 84.

Speaker 1 Ah, sound guy had 88. Fuck.
All right, 84.

Speaker 1 All right. See everyone on Friday for Jerry O'Connell.

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