Jason McCourty In Studio, Scott Frost Does It Again And Mt Rushmore Of Things It Sucks To Be Late To

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Today is Monday, August 29th, and Nebraska is not back. Well, Nebraska is kind of very much back to what Nebraska has been doing.
Scott Frost on the hot seat already. If he wasn't going into the season, he is now.
I saw an interesting stat. This was on the CFB football Redditdit account on twitter they said after yesterday's loss scott frost is now 15 and 30 at nebraska bo pelini was fired after going 67 and 27 if frost wins his next 50 games in a row he would still have a worse record at nebraska than bo That's tough.
Sky, so real football is back because we got to watch real college football on Saturday. Scott Frost, goddammit, that guy just keeps doing it to himself where every year it's like Nebraska's good.
They got a great new defense. They got a lot of transfer portals.
New quarterback. What are they going to do this year to fuck themselves over?

Oh, how about go up by 11 and then try an onside kick

when you have all the momentum?

And the best part about it is,

do you know that Nebraska, this is actually the first year

under Scott Frost that they have a special teams coordinator?

No, I didn't know that.

They finally installed a special teams coordinator.

Scott Frost also finally gave up play calling duty.

And part of when he gave up play calling duty asked what he's going to be doing he said quote I'll be able to go over and help with special teams as they're taking the field so Scott Frost probably called in the onside kick and on top of all that he has an offensive coordinator for the first time it's not Scott Frost and he already took it took one game for him to throw his offensive coordinator under the bus. He said, I think our offensive staff has to learn you've got to be a little more creative in this league.
That's after one game. So that's a lot like what Mike McCarthy used to do.
Right. Getting an offensive coordinator and then giving him play-calling responsibility is actually great for a head coach, especially one that plans on losing a a few games because then you can always take back the play calling responsibilities and be like i'm going to fix this one it hasn't had enough scott frost yeah input so that's what the real issue is he shuffled the deck so when you said that he just got a new special teams coordinator no he just got a special yeah yeah so let's make sure we're first time very specific they're innovative in nebraska they now have a person who's in charge of special teams.
I think Scott Frost might not have called that onside kick because it's like, you know how when people get air fryers and all of a sudden they just start air frying everything and that's the only way that they cook now? So that's like having a special teams coordinator. Now you have a guy who's in charge of that, and so now he's going to go overboard and have too much input.
Yeah. So maybe Scott Frost needs to not only take play calling responsibilities back from the offensive coordinator, but also from the special teams coordinator.
By the way, air fryer, side note, everyone when we did our leftovers draft, they're like chicken wings. You got to pop them in the air fryer.
You're just recooking them. Yeah.
That doesn't count as a leftover anymore. Agreed.
That's not in the spirit of the debate. People are like, air fryer, dude, air fryer well that's yeah of course if you recook them if you refry them yeah they'll be good yeah as a man that loves chicken wings who would like to be buried under six feet of chicken wings when i die i will be the first to tell you that chicken wings not not a good leftover at all not a good leftover uh yeah scott frost did say if i had if i had it over i wouldn't make the call so he the call.
So he did kind of cop to the onside kick. And I just like that we get these random college football games where every now and then when they play overseas, you get media that has nothing to do with college football.
So an Irish media member asked him point blank if he would think about stepping down as coach. Fuck yes.
And he said no. But great that the question was asked they call it sacked over there will you be sacked after this game uh the guy some irish guy walked into the fucking news conference it was like wait you're the coach and you did all that i don't even follow football but you should step down i wish he had asked him like do you regret not having your offensive line puke more yeah in practice to prepare them for ireland and uh oh, they also had the free beer because the internet systems went down inside the stadium.
So in Ireland, they were giving out free beer to people, which is incredible. I don't think they would ever do that in the United States.
If you can't make money off it in the United States, they would just be like, well, nobody's drinking then. In Ireland, that's better than Christmas, Thanksgiving, whatever holidays they celebrate over there.
St. Patrick's Day.
Yeah, we had a great cup snake. It was great to see footballs back.
And so, yeah, Scott Frost. I mean, that's the worst part.
We talk at length about, as a fan, you don't want to be a primetime game. If you're Scott Frost and you're a Nebraska fan, you don't want to be the first game of the entire season and have literally everyone who has just been, like, begging for football for nine months is going to watch that game and come away with it being like, damn, Scott Frost is a moron.
It's also crazy that they would call that onside kick in the first game of the season because it's not like you have tape on their special teams and you're like, oh, this guy runs back no and puts his head down on a kickoff they're just scott frost was just like you know what he was trying to make a play out there yeah and it was also just the perfect like dichotomy of scott frost who should have all the talent and going up against northwestern with fitzgerald who's just an awesome coach and i did see that one nebraska fan i think it might have been parody but i'm just gonna assume i'm just gonna hope that it wasn't was tweeting that of course the irish refs uh helped out fitzgerald so fitzy never bet against a fitzy in iraul yeah they was like that's why this game went this way i love that yeah yeah but it was um i it was a good way to start the season i like having games in weird locations yeah to start the season they should play a football game on an aircraft carrier i knew you you were going to say Battleship. I love that when they start college basketball on a fucking aircraft carrier.
How sick would it be to have a football game on one? Yeah, it would. That's back to the season, by the way.
Yeah. One in San Diego.
Nice. Other news.
We missed on Thursday. We taped early.
Aaron Donald assault again. It's actually great because it's grown to a point where uh Schefter I think he did say assault again he did he did actually fact check and was like under under actual laws this is assault and now he has his ESPN colleagues being like this is just football practice like not realizing that Schefter's now in on the joke yeah yeah he knew how ridiculous the first one was so he doubled down with this one and I saw someone on NFL live being like people who like this is what happens when you when you have uh you know football practice in in training camp and two teams going against each other fights happen which I totally agree with but like let's give chef Schefter is joking now yes he's joking but right well it's funny he's he knows the assault punchline is a thing.
Right. But I actually think if you gave him truth serum, he would be like, yeah, it is assault.
No, well, it is. He's technically not.
By the letter of the law, it's assault. Unless it's Aaron.
Aaron Donald should be allowed to do it. Aaron Donald can do whatever he wants.
Aaron Donald. Yeah.
That guy is so scary. And for most mostly on the field.
But then he'll just be like, you know, training with knives and swinging two helmets at people. Yeah.
He'll be like, oh, okay, so he's just going to be scary. I mean, I guess it's still on the field, but it's kind of off the field because they weren't playing and he was just swinging helmets at people.
My favorite part of that entire situation was how McVay walked up to him and was like very calmly putting his hand out like Chris Pratt in Jurassic World being like whoa whoa big fella easy easy Aaron and Aaron just like huffing like the Hulk with two helmets in the hand. He was one step Sean McVay was one step away from taking out like a tranquilizer dart.
Yeah. Like Aaron Donald's gonna kill us all.
Put him down. But he but it is crazy because people were like Miles Garrett got suspended six games like yeah this was practice fights happen in training camp i wasn't shocked to see yeah maybe you probably don't want aaron donald with two helmets in his hands but aaron if you're like aaron donald gets in tries to fight entire cincinnati bangles team in joint practice and be like duh well also when miles garrett did it it was against mason rudolph yeah and so everyone was like yeah he, he's got a punchable face.
I can understand that. Right.
And Aaron Donald in this situation was taking on the Bengals, who he just beat in the Super Bowl. So you kind of have like, you know, there's a difference there.
I don't want to victim shame Big Cat, but I'm very clearly victim shaming Mason Rudolph. I'm 100% on Aaron Donald's side in that he probably is like, this sucks that I have to keep going through practice and training camp.
I want to play real games. Give me a helmet.
I'm going to swing at someone. I'm very much on the side, just like I'm on the side of the robots that will eventually take over this planet.
I want to be on the right side of history. And next time I find myself in a room with Aaron Donald, I want him to know that I do not hold this against him.
I'm on your side no matter what. Please don't hurt me, Mr.
Donald. And it's interesting because now I think in a game where it was Miles Garrett that did that, one, it was in a primetime game, which made it way more visible.
Thursday night. Thursday night, yeah.
At the end, everybody was watching the game still. So that falls under the jurisdiction of Roger Goodell's fake cop policy in the NFL.
In practice, I don't think that's think that's a league call is it no no it's not i think it's a rams call no it's it's a total rams call so the rams yes they're not going so the rams get to decide whether or not the best player in the nfl should be allowed to play in games for them i think the rams will probably have someone go up to aaron donald be like hey um we were thinking maybe just finding you like ten10,000 just for show and he'd be like, no. And then be like, okay, yeah, we agree.
Yeah. Sounds good.
Or just like say that you're sending him to anger management. Yeah.
Talk about your feelings for 30 minutes. You don't want to send Aaron Donald to anger management.
You want all the anger. He would beat up the therapist.
Yeah. And like you just want him to be angry all the time because that's why he's the best player in the NFL.
They should send him to reverse anger management and have somebody just low-key insulting him and poking him with a cat a-iron, just getting him more and more angry. Yes, yes.
All right, other things. Preseason is officially done.
Thank God. We're done with it.
Every preseason is the exact same way where week one happens in preseason. We're all excited.
This is cool. And then we're just like just like fuck it let's get to real football like like week three of preseason is a total fuck it let's just get to football yeah um this isn't even the dress rehearsal that's the one thing that i miss about having four season four preseason games is week three we'd always say oh this is the dress rehearsal right the starters are going to play a half they just threw that out the window entirely there's probably i wish wish somebody would do a correlation of if there is any possible relevance to how your team performs in the preseason compared to the regular season.
If we have enough data on there, I would assume that some nerd has taken a look at it and come up with a formula saying, statistically, if you don't win a game, you're X amount less likely to make the playoffs. Right, and it's also all done just like narratives that you just take like people will last year remember Aaron Rodgers with the whole holdout and everything and they got killed by the Saints and it was like oh yeah look at what he did and then they won MVP so it's just whatever narrative you want to go with last year the Rams went oh and three oh there we go so the commander commander Super Bowl Terry McLaurin We called it.
Bears went 3-0. So did the Jets.
That was big,3. There we go.
So, Commanders. Commanders, Super Bowl, Terry McLaurin, we called it.

Bears went 3-0, so did the Jets.

That was big, Billy.

Huge.

Chris Streveler won all three games.

Yeah. The team was back.

Yeah.

Joe Flacco looks great.

The highlight of the preseason,

this is a highlight that I hadn't even seen until we started down.

We had to make you aware of it.

We sat down to tape, pardon my take,

Poe, the Ravens mascot, getting carted off the field after injuring his leg in a, was it a halftime? Yeah. It was like a halftime football players against mascots.
Yeah, and he, credit to Poe, which I expected him to do this, but still needs credit to not take off the mascot head when he gets on the cart. Yeah.
Because you could, like a lesser mascot will take it off and be like, there's a human under here. No, no, no.
You keep that on. I hope he keeps it on for surgery if he needs surgery on his knee.
Yeah. You keep it on forever.
That's what you do when you sign up to be a mascot. So I'm not a doctor.
I have examined the film in slow-mo. I think he's faking it.
I think his mascots, they do this. You saw Blooper.
He knew that the camera's wrong. Blooper said Blooper is fucking assaulting kids.
Being a bully out there. I think he's faking it I think his mascots They do this You saw Blooper Like he knew that The cameras were on Blooper said Blooper's just fucking Assaulting kids Being a bully out there I think He's a fat fuck He's just shamed of himself He's fat But he's also He's a fuck too He moves quickly For a big man But Poe I think Poe's faking it I watched the tape Over and over again I saw the left knee Nothing out of the ordinary Happened with the left knee.
Watch the video. Slow it down if you can.
There's no buckling of the left knee. In fact, I don't think birds have ACLs or PCLs or anything like that.
Billy will fact check me on that, I'm sure, quite accurately. But I do not see anything in this video that says that there's an actual injury.
I think he's milking it for the views. I think he's an attention whore.
I think he's a me first kind of guy.

Yeah, but he's a good mascot.

But he did keep the helmet on. He did.
Or the mascot head on. And the lady was starting to pet his beak as he was going into the tunnel.
I loved it. It was great.
Anytime a mascot gets hurt or, like we've mentioned it before, Jackson DeVille or the Nuggets mascot who, like, I think passed out while being lowered. you just got to keep the head on and just let everyone think that it's

just an actual mascot not a real human being

under who I think passed out while being lowered. You just got to keep the head on and just let everyone think that it's just an actual mascot, not a real human being under there.
We don't want to have the illusion be broken that we have to actually feel bad for a real human being tearing his ACL. We want to just think Poe did.
Dude, if you get seriously injured in a mascot outfit, it's still funny. Yes.
It's very funny. Hilarious.
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers shouldgers should be in jail he went on joe rogan i'm gonna have to go through this interview with a fine-tooth comb but he admitted to doing uh playing games on percocets which is just a tradition i think for green bay packer quarterbacks well it was very obvious when he slips into the southern accent right those are the games that he's on percocet yeah um what else did he i mean he he obviously said that he was trying to to fake everyone out with the immunized we knew that immunized comments um so he said i'm gonna i'm gonna have a lawyer go through the transcript and just get an entire list of all the things that are are felonies that he admitted to what's shocking though if you had gone back in time like a year maybe let's just say like eight months after the immunization thing happened, and you were to say Aaron Rodgers goes on part of my take before he goes on Joe Rogan, you would have gotten like plus 2,000 odds on that.
Big time. He also, he said that there was the NFL brought around stooges to talk about the vaccine.

And he said to Joe Rogan, I mopped the floor with him.

And I just thought that's exactly how Billy thinks every interaction happens in his life, where he's like, yeah, I mopped the floor with those guys in this argument. Yeah, I think if Billy took ayahuasca, he would actually be very similar to Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, they would have a lot of ways. Almost the same amount of Super Bowls.
Yeah, he only has you beat by one, but you still have time. You have age on your side.

I'm trying to think what else happened.

Anything else that we –

The Brian Robinson thing just happened a couple hours ago,

so he got shot in a carjacking attempt.

So, like, apparently he's going to be okay,

but anytime you get shot multiple times, it's not a good thing.

I'd say no.

I'm just – I hope Colin Cowher doesn't go on the radio tomorrow

and talk about how he deserved it. That and people talking about their fantasy teams online as always we're in that season right now right before the season starts and in any type of injury or like tragic thing happens like this one and just like clockwork some fucking morons gonna get online and be like oh oh sick i handcuffed kind of sucks, too, because like when I saw the news about him getting shot, obviously my first reaction was like, I hope he's OK.
This is a tragedy that happens to him. But then I started thinking like when other players get injured, my mind usually goes to things about football.
But when it's something it takes something this serious to realize that there are human beings out there. Yeah.
But i hope i hope he's doing okay we are an anti-carjacking podcast after and anti-gunshots yes gunshots are bad yeah usually yeah i'd say they're they're very bad um what are you gonna say billy you you sprouted up i'll save her too who's back okay all right nice you got it you got a couple who's back oh rory rory's back awesome awesome golf uh final like round.otty sheffler just completely choked it away i think he was a five strokes huge choke job huge choke job but rory sportsmanship what oh yeah he went up to scotty sheffler's apologize to his parents yeah that's kind of a that's kind of a sun cucket that's a subtle emasculation like going up to someone's dad do that You would do that, Jake. Yeah, you would.
Yeah, you would.

He went up to Scotty Scheffler's dad and was like, I'm so sorry.

I stole $12 million from your son.

Yeah.

Was it 18 and six and a half?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Max got three.

And I'm not saying that we're like matchmakers,

but a little birdie told me that Max and our pervert of the year and Blake of the year went out to dinner and had a great time. A budding French.
Yeah, they were spotted on the course. Yeah, no, I know.
They went out to dinner after, though. Oh, okay.
Yeah. And they had a great time.
Max told me that Blake's advice to him was just straight up, the pervert of the year is a great stepping stone to maybe one day become a Blake. That's true.
That's true. I'm trying to think what has.
Not all Blakes areakes are perverts. No, not all perverts are Blakes, but all Blakes are perverts.
It's like when you look at the eventual when a team wins a World Series and they go back and they're like, well, they had an incredible farm system like five years ago. If Max ever wins Blake of the Year, it would be like, well, yeah, he won Pervert of the Year back in 2022.
He's hot. He was building something.
Exactly. Clearly, he had a program that he was establishing.
He's adding to his resume. Dude, he shot a 62 on Friday.
Yeah. Like, it's honestly.
And still didn't finish top 10, right? It's a little. No, he did.
Oh, he did? Top five? Did he finish top five? Yeah, because Scheffler choked. Yeah, that's right.
Well, and he was talking about it too, but there was controversy. It's not controversy, but it's the only championship where the leader starts with more strokes.
Right. Right.
So, I mean, Scotty did choke. He had a two-stroke advantage and still lost.
Yeah, he choked big time. Yeah, it was big.
There's no sugarcoating that. No, it was a choke.
If you're the supposed number one player in the world, you should be able to put that away. But credit to us, though, because we're the first people, I think, on the planet that told you that Rory McIlroy was playing the best golf of his career before the season even started.
And Jay Moynihan probably is so pumped that his, you know, because Rory's been the most vocal PGA Tour guy. Hmm.
Hmm. Hmm.
Hmm. PGA rigged? Interesting.
Pga might be rigged is what i'm thinking hmm also i saw our friend barstool banks had a blog he reposted but how why does the pga tour not do the big check if they did the big check they would kill the live yeah they just made a giant giant check to give to rory like that is a perfect case where you show up. Rory wins.
I'm talking like half a basketball court check. That would be nice.
And just like, here you go. Here's $18 million.
Because the bigger the check, people are going to be like, holy fuck, look at that check. Like, I want Rory, when they do those simulations, like, look how small the Earth is compared to the galaxy.
I want to look like that when Rory's standing next to his check.

It would also be sick if they just had an actual Brinks truck that drove all the money

out onto the green.

Just WWE.

Yeah.

You're like, drive it onto the money in the bank, have a ladder at the 18th hole, have

have tiger, have a few pops, get behind the wheel of the Brinks truck and he speeds it

out onto the green.

Doesn't hit the gate.

It doesn't hit the break.

Not at all.

You have to catch it.

You have to jump on the back of it as it's going past you. And then his ex-wife is chasing with a seven iron.
I think we just fixed golf. Yeah, we fixed golf once and for all.
But yeah, that was some great drama down the street. Anytime a guy chokes in golf, like on a Sunday afternoon, it's instantly got to turn it on.
Yeah. I mean, Scheffler's kind of earning a little bit of a reputation as a choke artist now a little bit a little bit and rory well rory was the choker and now he he passes it off yeah so good for rory um all right let's do who's back and then we'll get to jason mccourty then we'll get to hank um hijack jacking uh mount rushmore season and making his own team i used to think that just, you know, basic, until I realized how easy it is to level them way up.
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I also, so that was my who's back of the week. The 62 on Friday, bogey-free golf.
Obviously, he didn't win, but that's big time. I've come close, but I've never done it.
Big-time players making big-time plays. It's big.
It's huge. Who's back? Reality TV, PMT YouTube, just YouTube in general.
We're 2,000 people away from 400,000 on YouTube. We put out the Mount Rushmore Everest video.
I don't think we talked about that on here. And we have a whole disc golf series coming out.
Yeah, I usually don't go back and watch the videos that we've made because I'll see like the highlights and stuff in the clips that we get made but i was very curious to see what the mount rushmore equivalent how that turned out so i watched most of it it's it's just as intense as i remember i can't believe we didn't die out there i would say that if you're scared of heights if you're someone who gets queasy easily don't watch that video just let it play so that we get the actual views. But what an accomplishment.

Another round of applause for us.

Great job.

Also, the scene where Billy started talking about how dogs can't run long distances.

Which is true.

And immediately gets countered with what about the Iditarod, Billy?

Billy coming across as, I think I said it in the video, he's the jock Dwight Schrute the entire time.

It's just great for everyone else to see.

You guys would have got lost out there.

Billy.

Oh, yeah.

You guys didn't read the trails.

I love how you still don't acknowledge the fact that the Iditarod is a race that only

dogs can accomplish.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, exactly.

Just read the book Born to Run.

It's about running.

You read the whole book?

I read the whole book.

The whole book.

It was a really good book.

And does it say that the Iditarod does not exist? Humans can outrun horses in long distances. It's a thing.
Trust me. Okay.
What about that Diablo movie where the horses race across the desert? Yeah, what about that movie? Horse marathons. Okay.
Wait, there are horse marathons? But they fish slower than humans? Yep. That's tough to believe.

Dude, that's...

Imagine what a fucking...

26.2 miles a horse.

Not the fastest humans, like the average human.

No, not an average human.

You're not talking about the average horses then.

Right.

Humans were able to run farther distance over time, and that's why they became the apex predators.

But dogs can run the Iditarod, and humans can't.

Yeah, thumbs helped a lot too.

I'm not going to be able to explain it to you guys.

Also, our brains had something to do with it probably.

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We have a horse in the race with Rudy.

Pardon my cheese steak.

Check it out. We had him wear the shirt, paid him, and he's been eating cheese he ate cheesesteak all week so hopefully he wins uh okay pft uh my who i got a couple of them my first who's back of the week is tom brady yeah tom brady's back sorry bill you can you can go ahead all i just want to say is i think tom brady looks great yeah thank you h for bringing that up.
Looks young. I think he looks just crazy young.
I think he looks like abnormally young right now. He looks so young.
He could be maybe on Real Housewives of Pick a City. It's kind of wild that he took the last couple weeks off with a mystery absence.
And then he came back and his face just looks real young. No, dude, don't worry.
He had a deviated septum. So he got that fixed because of breathing.
Oh, okay. He's probably also been drinking a lot of water.
I know that that helps you look 15 years younger at times. So young.
Really young. Incredibly young.
Spry. The quote was when asked what's going on, he said, I'm 45.
A lot of shit going on. I actually, I'm going to defend him on that.
Like the older you get, there's just shit going on. I think that's just like until you retire, you just have shit going on where it's like, yeah, I got to go deal with some.
Like if I had like four days off where I could just break from everything, I could get a lot. Like there's a lot of shit I could do that I've been like neglecting.
And I'm sure like, you know, Giselle is probably like, come on, we got shit going on. You don't have to go to training camp.
You're fucking Tom Brady. He's like, yeah, you're kind of right.
I can probably not. Giselle was like, yeah, like Tom, we need you at home.
And also your eyebrows need to be redone. And also like your face moves too much and shows too much emotion when you think and talk.
So maybe we could do something about that. Yeah, right.
gonna have a great poker face though no one's gonna know if it's true yeah if he's going for it if he's faking the hard count or what yeah i sound jealous but that's all right i honestly really honestly yes hank you got me i am jealous of tom brady he's the best football player of all time he's married to a supermodel and he's got like 700 million dollars and he's found a way to not age It's incredible It's all incredible I do agree that he A lot of shit going on I felt that when he said that I'm going to be honest I think he looks gaunt Like the definition of the word gaunt Okay We'll put that in the log Gaunt he's gaunted G-A-U-N-T Got it he's gaunt What else? Okay. That's the only way.
We'll put that in the log. Yep.
Gaunt. He's gaunted.
Yeah. G-A-U-N-T.
Yep. We know.
Got it. Yep.
Got it. He's gone.
What else? My other who's back in the week is French soccer because they're already imploding before the World Cup, which gives Italy a nice little window. They're their main competition over in Europe.
And every year, every four years during the World Cup, France just like they get into this mode where they hate each other right when the World Cup training starts. And you have players that are like sleeping with each other's girlfriends trying to stab each other.
And they just win France. Yeah.
Yeah. That was four years ago.
Yeah. But Paul Pogba, one of their stars, is now accusing his, I think, his two brothers and a giant gang of extorting him and holding him hostage and trying to get like $15 million out of him for providing protection for him for the last like seven years.
So it's a fucked up situation. They said that he says that one of his brothers hired a witch doctor to put a curse on him, which this does not bode well for El Tri.
I think that's what they call themselves, right? I don't know. The red, white, and blue.
I don't know. Whatever they are, they're going to lose.
That's my prediction. I assume you do know and you're saying it as a joke.
No, I think it's El Tri. I know that they're the roosters.
They have the rooster. I'm going to have a hard time getting into the World Cup this year.
Oh, I'm in. I'm in already.
But I'm officially putting France is a no bet for me this World Cup. I agree with you on that.
That's absolutely true. All right.
I have a couple who's back. Love is back.
Conor McGregor posted an Instagram story today of his wife giving him head on his boat. Oh, that's sick.
Like Pam and Tommy. Yeah, it was really nice.
So no actual nudity, but, I mean, it it was very clear what was going on and it was the top of her head and the views of the, of the boat. I don't, yeah, I don't know why he did that.
I think he just was like, I haven't trended in a while. Wait, was the boat moving? Was the motor on? It was, it was docked and he was just like getting the views and then a little bit of her head.
And like, there was a moment where you could see his legs were spread out so yeah i love his back i love that yeah like it's a consenting couple they're deeply in love we need to normalize that sort of thing yeah it was good maybe he was just doing an accidental close friends that he posted on the main story yeah yeah i i really do think he's like hey honey like i haven't no one's been talking about me recently can we just you just give me and I'll just get the top of your head real quick? Or even, I think it would actually be worse if she wasn't giving him head and he was like, can you just act like you're giving me a head so I can put this video out here? Yes, yes. Also, in boat news, James Harden throwing a cake off the boat was fucking hilarious.
I don't know if you guys saw that, but he got a birthday cake and he just tossed it right off the boat. So I think the Sixers might be that's sick did he hit the water uh ben simmons would have missed yeah ben simmons would have little baby also gave him a quarter million dollars i did see that which that it it reminds me of like uh that scene from donnie brasco when they just give each other money for christmas yeah and then he asks him back for like he's like hey can i get some money back um it's got to be really cool when you have rich friends you're like i'm just gonna give going to give you a quarter million.
And then hopefully when my birthday comes around, you give me half a million. So if you're James Harden wealthy and you get $250,000, do you take it seriously? Do you go stash it or do you spend it that night? No, it's basically a little baby being like, let's go out.
Yeah, he's like, I want to spend $250,000 tonight. Can I just give it to you? And get credit for a birthday present.
And then you get to give it. And then I'm also the hero that gave you $250,000.
Correct. Did I tell you about the time? Smart move.
Have I said this on the show when I saw a little baby? You pissed next to Ed Sheeran? No, in Atlanta. I did do that, though.
He couldn't pee next to me. But in Atlanta for the Super Bowl, we were driving down the street that had all these different strip clubs on either side, bars on either side.
And a fucking helicopter lands in the parking lot of the strip club. I'm talking like a helicopter is landing in a parking lot from the sky.
And then all these people get out and it's like a camera, a lighting crew and a microphone guy. And then another guy holding a blinking sign that says little baby.
And then little gets out of the helicopter, and he just walks into the strip club. It's a great way to enter.
It was pretty cool. Badass.
And then my other last who's back is Foul Ball Guy. He's back.
He's got the internet all upset. For what? He posted a video.
The ushers at Coors Field told him that he couldn't get out of his seat, and he had a little back and forth and then obviously everyone being losers that they are online said that foul ball guy's the worst and like they defended the ushers foul ball guy's not the worst he's actually the greatest foul ball guy catcher of all time and then i did like someone was like dude you probably didn't play baseball and he's like i've actually batted 724 my senior year so dunk also like does that apply to everyone no one can get out of their seats that was his point he was like, I've actually batted 724 my senior year. So, dunk it on.
Also, like, does that apply to everyone? No one can get out of their seats? That was his point. He was like, you're clearly making this rule for just me, and it was just him because they can't keep him down.
How about maybe get better foul ball or home run catchers to compete with him? Why are we calling him foul ball guy still? He's a home run guy. I haven't seen him catch a foul.
He forgot his roots a little bit. No, he did actually just catch an Itrio commemorative ball tonight.
In foul territory? Yeah, in foul territory. Okay.
Fucking badass. He catches balls everywhere.
Was it close to the foul pole? No, it looked like it was kind of... Well, he does.
He goes different places. He's got a pregame routine.
He gets everything. I would like to see him either get back to his roots a little bit and catch a foul ball every once in a while.
I think he's just ball guy. Yeah, he's just ball guy or home run guy, which is fine.
He's the greatest home run guy to ever do it. He's the greatest at everything.
Yeah, so I did see him trending on that and people were mad. Some people were saying that he was running over people to get the ball.
That's always a myth and he does not run over people. You just have to be faster.
Yep. That's just simple.
Okay? If you get run over, that's your own terrible athleticism. Maybe lose some weight and get out of his way.
I also like the tweet that he put out where it was just pictures of him hanging out with kids. He's a Pied Piper.
He's signing foul balls for kids. Yeah, he's the Pied Piper of baseballs.
Yep. Just get in line.
You'll get get a ball um all right billy you're who's back so in the spirit of jake's fire fest uh we no we didn't cover all my who's backs but a lot of them so i was looking for new who's backs as we covered all my who's backs and was on twitter guess what's back game of thrones spoilers because they're just live on twitter so you gotta stay off twitter when game of thrones is there okay that's why i really don't so i i didn't want the original game of thrones i watched all the seasons up until the last season like before you know like i was late to it and i get the spoiler thing but like it's game of thrones like everyone's gonna die your favorite character is gonna die spoiler and since this is a prequel we already know what happens after this anyways yeah you know what i mean like it sucks it sucks to get spoiled but it's also one of those shows that like you know everyone's gonna die because that's what they do yeah they just kill they make you love someone then they kill them yeah the person that you love the most will die will die person horrifically the person that you hate the most will have sex with their sibling and then die and then die maybe while when you start to love them yes because you're like oh that's the new king when they yeah when they realize the error of their wicked ways from before like actually i kind of like this guy down dead and then once you find yourself going like i don't know 30 minutes without somebody dying then everybody's gonna die great show by a dragon by though. Buy a dragon.
Buy a dragon. Great show, though.

But yeah, everyone's going to die.

Also back with that is George Martin is doing press interviews, and he's talking about how

he wants to do all this different stuff in the Game of Thrones world, and everyone just

gets mad because it's like, finish the book.

Yeah, finish the book.

Also, what's his name?

George R.R.

Martin?

Yeah.

He's like a massive Jets fan, too.

George R.R.

Martin, come on part of my take to discuss everything you have going on and mostly the Jets. Yes.
Agreed. And my other who's back is MILFs.
Young Gravy was at the VMA's carpet and Kiss Asin's Ray's mom, which is great because we have these MILF shirts on sale in the Barstool store and they say, man, I love football. That's great.
And as the MILF guy at Barstool, it's a great shirt. It's a great shirt.
We have a Zach Wilson edition as well. Check it out in the Barstool store.
Love it. Nice.
How's your boy Mincy doing? Not good. Okay.
Jake. My who's back is Hawaii.
Yeah. World Series champions for the fourth time.
Talking about football? Did you see how bad they got beat? Yeah, in football. But I mean, they were playing SEC.
That was a really tough. I was at a bachelor party, so I went to sleep early on Saturday because I got back home.
Oh, breaking moves. What do we got? Sitting down, PFT? Yeah.
The Cowboys are releasing Ben DiNucci. That's fine.
They're giving more time to catch on somewhere else. Gucci DiNucci, JMU legend.
Backup QB job between Cooper Rush and Will Greer. Oh, Will Greer.
Yeah, Ben DiNucci's going to be fine, man. You saw that interception that he had when he got to start that game.
The sidearm off-platform throw. It was sick.
It was an amazing throw. Just a better play by the defender.
He was also halfway standing out of bounds. But Hawaii, yeah.
So I went to sleep early because I got back, and I was like, I got to sleep. And I had Hawaii plus like eight, and that was a tough score to wake up to.
63-10. They were up 7-0 too.
Yeah, but they won the Little League World Series. Yeah, I don't care about that.
They outscored a point in 60-5 in six games. So they're representing the United States in the Little League.
Okay. They won.
whole thing oh be curse oh oh it's over yeah oh yeah fuck you world usa baby i love it again they won mercy rule walk off mercy oh that's so that's so embarrassing so they're bad for a little league world series 60 to five in six games yeah that's crazy yeah yeah now you know what i love that team go usa i wish they could play football like i wish the hawaii little league team feels like they could have covered a spread against vanderbilt yeah it's like that's a debate again yeah just just just by the dominance that you've told me like i bet you they have some kids that are probably big kids island boys yeah they could fuck someone up uh is that your only who's back uh my only one that hasn't been taken oh what else got taken you had conor mcgregor getting ahead no i had zach hample i had rory mcelroy and i had mascots oh wow a lot happened yes yeah by the way i'm just i'm laughing internally imagining the conversations that billy's having with ben mentz like teaching him how to keep his job. Yeah.
Like teaching him how to, how to like really, now you got to buckle down, Ben. Now you got to be like post the Monday morning time to go to work tweet at like 1130.
Only go to the Friday widespread panic show. Don't go to the Saturday one.
College football's on that kind of stuff. Some big time coaching.
Buy the milf shirts if you like Ben. Okay.
There we we go um all right let's get to our interview with jason mccourty in studio you know that one sandwich you always crave the one that just hits every single time for me it's a simple yet perfect combination boar's head oven gold turkey sliced thin piled high on fresh sourdough with sharp cheddar crisp lettuce tomato a little honey mustard and just a touch of mayo simple but the flavors unreal and that's the thing when you start with quality ingredients you don't need to do much boar's head is my go-to because every bite tastes like it was made just for me premium cuts flavor, and that perfect balance of freshness. So next time you're at the deli, do yourself a favor.
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Okay, we now welcome on very special guest, Super Bowl champion, also new host of NFL Network's Emmy Award winning Good Morning Football, which airs Monday through Friday at 7 a.m. on the NFL Network.
It is Jason McCourty. Thank you for joining us.
What's up, man? Appreciate you guys for having me. Every time they say Emmy award-winning show, I'm like, well, I wasn't a part of the Emmy, so it's just like, but I'll take it.
It's like you also get to retroactively claim all the Patriots' Super Bowl rings because you were part of their runs. So it's like, yeah, you're involved in that.
No doubt about it. When you just said Super Bowl champion, people don't know whether I'm my brother and I won three of them or i just got a chance to win one so i'm not going to correct well you guys share all your socials so shouldn't you aren't you four don't you have four until now now i have my own twitter you did at jason mccourney thank you for the free pub so there we go there we go so did you did you let him take over the old account or did he have to start a new one himself too nah we're keeping it right now just m just McCourty twins, but like we're still up in the air.
Like there might be a space where we still need the McCourty twins one, but I think he got tired of me that first week on good morning football. I'm talking about stuff all over the NFL and he's getting mentioned and I may have to go in there and talk about how bad he plays in one of these games.
He may not want it. Yeah.
I mean, I, I'll be honest with you. i always thought it was a psycho move that you guys shared all social like what i mean that's what if he tweets something you don't agree with he knows not to do that okay but that's actually a perfect you get a scapegoat right no doubt about it if you tweet something bad you can be like oh that was my brother no doubt about we're both married so we didn't really have to go down that path but if we weren't like you could be sliding into dms and all type of stuff yeah and just blaming on your brother that's actually perfect i've been fascinated uh with with twins in a weird way for a while so uh pause but when you guys went to college you went to school together you guys had always you know you grew up together played football together been very very close as brothers and then you graduate from college uh you go to the nfl and all of a sudden you guys are in different cities for the first time what's that like as an identical twin like having to form your own identity outside of being a twin for like the first time in your life as an adult yeah uh for us we talked all the time i think especially as unique because we're in the same profession so our conversations are always about either family football and those things and I think at that point the toughest decision was in college we shared sneakers you couldn't afford to each buy the new pair of Jordans coming out so we had to decide I mean obviously I was the one going into the league so he kept all the shoes I had to rebuy stuff but I think the identity part like for those close to us they always people have been around us they can tell like all right this is more of a devin thing to say more of a jason thing we're very similar but completely different in certain things so i think that part was just normal to us going making friends the whole nine um but we had to get used to all right you don't have your brother there to lean on to ask this question or in conversation he doesn't know what the hell i'm talking about when i'm talking about stuff with the Titans.
But it was awesome. I think I gave him a head start for that next year.
I mean, I went at the bottom of the sixth round. This guy goes at the bottom of the first.
Yeah, you absolutely helped him out. Did he give you a little taste? Hell no.
Didn't give me no money. He goes to the Pro Bowls rookie year, makes me pay for my own flight and hotel.
So I'm still waiting for like a 500K check. He's the cheap one.
Yeah, I have a little more messed up twin question. This could be the last twin question, but I do have a theory that identical twins, they all have at least tried to kiss each other on the lips just because, like, why wouldn't you? That's your, like, he's hot.
If you think you're attractive, then your twin has to be to be attractive right i i gotta assume that's probably more of like a white guy twin thing okay all right nice nice you can pull the race card on me that's fine that's fine i'll own it i can say we've we've never we've never went down that path um all right so so the the move to this this thing is just a mess our studio is a mess but but this keeps falling off, so I lose my headphones over and over. So your career and six-rounder have a long career.
Most six-rounders don't make it. That's just a fact.
So you're now transitioning to the media. Has it been hard to be like, I got to start criticizing all these guys, you know how hard it is to stay in the league.
You know how difficult of a league it is. Have you found yourself, like, how am I going to criticize? How am I going to nitpick knowing how difficult this whole profession is? I wouldn't say hard, but you definitely think it through how you want to say it.
And I think the main thing for me is having the supporting facts. Like, if a guy goes I'm friends with Jacoby Brissett good friends if Jacoby goes out there on a Sunday and throws three interceptions like I have to say something about it there's no way I can say Jacoby played a great game it's just the receivers all ran the wrong route right so I think it's understanding how you do it I'm not gonna say oh yeah this guy sucks but hey he had a rough day out there today you can see on this throw and that throw hey this guy's clearly open he's a little greedy and this is what happens when you're greedy so I think it's the way you go about it and how you do it and you're not particularly calling somebody out but you are calling out the performance and how they play it now have you found yourself doing hot takes yet because I feel like that happens with every media guy who is a former pro.
They're like, I'm not going to just do hot takes because I know the nuances of the game. And then you get that first hot take off and it's addicting.
Like it's like what you just described. We would just be like Jacoby Brissett's a bum.
Yeah. Right.
And it's addicting. I haven't and I'm, I'm, I'm trying to be self-aware about it so that I don't do that.
That's the one thing I don't want to do. I'm like, hey, 13 years in the league, I've had a great career, now transitioning to the media.
Hey, just let it happen organically. If you're meant to be skyrocketed one of the best, that's awesome.
You may just be a mediocre guy. Don't just go out there and try to say stuff to see what sticks.
I can't wait to see you. On the other hand, you could just go out there and say, I think the game has passed Bill Belichick by.
Yeah. And it's time for him to hang him up.
They don't make the playoffs this year. You admit Bill Belichick's on the hot seat, right? Well, if I say that, then they better go out there and suck.
I can't say that. Then they go back to the AFC Championship game.
I'm always suspicious about you former Patriots players because I think you'll get out there and you'll say, the game the game has passed Belichick by knowing that Bill's going to read that and he's going to be really good this year. And then he's going to thank you for giving him some bulletin board material.
And this is how the Patriot way just recycles over and over and over again until it's like 2050 and he's won 23 Super Bowls. Nah, so if I go out there and I say some outlandish stuff about the Patriots, I'm going to go up to a game or something, go to see my brother play.
I'm going to run into Bill, and he's going to be like, I mean, J-Mac, would you just shut the hell up? You're not in the building anymore. You don't know what's going on here.
Just shut up. That's going to be the response.
He's not going to say, hey, thanks for that motivation. I needed that kick in the butt.
He doesn't want to hear to hear that well you just said something um and we'll give you a little media training right now because here we go you know we've been in the biz for a long time um you're like if i say something it better be right it doesn't have to be right it doesn't no one ever cares most of you guys are wrong no one ever cares no one ever's like hey remember that time jason mccourney's no no they don't care no. No one ever keeps track of the wrong things.
So you can just say shit, and no one will fucking care. It's almost better if you're wrong a lot.
To tell you the truth, Skip Bayless, he's made a career off saying that LeBron James sucks, and Tim Tebow's awesome. And he's the most popular dude in sports media, right? And nobody will ever say, they'll tell him that he's wrong, but it doesn't matter, because they keep talking about him.
They're still watching. They're still watching, exactly.
So we like to be wrong, like, six times a week, like, very loud. Also, another thing that we do on this show, we just, like, admit our biases.
Like how you said, like, with Jacoby, it'll be tough to call Jacoby out. Like, we will tell you right now that Blake Bortles is a Super Bowl champion caliber quarterback.
Oh, wow. And that any team in the league will be wrong.
Because we love Blake. And so we admit our biases up front.
Which is important. That is.
Because you'll see guys in media, like, they'll be biased, and then they'll be like, but I'm not being biased. It's like, dude, yeah, you are.
Like, it's okay. Everyone has friends.
Everyone has people that they're close with. So just say that outright, and then they can't do anything about it.
No doubt about it. I mean, I look at my career my career like I always want to be able to walk in the building in New England.
I want to be able to go visit the Titans and I want to be able to go visit the Dolphins because who doesn't want to go to Miami? And when I talk bad about them, it's going to be in a certain way, but I'm not going to bash them. I played in Cleveland for a year.
I was going to say, so you just don't care about going there. I don't plan on going there.
Well, I had a question about that. I mean, it's one of the most remarkable things to go from an 0-16 team

to winning a Super Bowl the next year.

Like, what the fuck was that like?

That has to be the – like, did you – after you win the Super Bowl,

you're like, holy shit, I literally played an entire season without winning a game,

and now I'm holding the Lombardi trophy.

We laughed about it in New England. We play Houston, the first game that I'm there that first season, and we win the game.
Normal game, first game of the season. Deshaun Watson, I think, was coming back off an ACL injury.
They didn't perform well. We kind of beat up on them.
I played five plays in that game, and I'm running in the locker room, screaming, like cheering in the locker room loud. And everybody that because here it is I'm a guy I haven't won a game since the 2016 season when I was still a Tennessee Titan right if you if you don't count the four preseason games we won in Cleveland but other than that I was fired up just to win a game so I think for me that season was definitely surreal even throughout my career I never won double digit win double double digit wins in a season did that in New England never won my division did that in New England so I think for me I was kind of like the poster child of like see if you can't take it for granted because look at Jason over there right it's the first time he's experiencing these things so no it was it was definitely surreal so I I listened I listened to Joe Thomas do a podcast.
I think it was with our friend Rosillo. And he was talking about that 0-16 season and, like, the mental wear that it has on everyone.
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, like, what every week, was there a point in the season where it was like, I just can't, like, I know I have to do a to get up for this but it has to just like basically wear you down to a point where like are we are we even worthy of this like this is how how did that go down i remember joe t explained it uh defining insanity doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results and that's kind of where we're in almost like a time trap of like each week you go out there wednesday you do first and second down thursday you do third down so the same thing and we were still getting the same exact result every sunday loss after loss after loss and it's definitely tough i can remember i still had a youtube video saved it was like a motivational youtube video i'd put it on every morning on my car ride to work because it was just like yo how am i gonna get through today yeah it was not only there was just so much going on in the building in cleveland that year when you go 0 and 16 like that's tough to do it hasn't been done many times in the nfl so there's a lot of things going wrong beyond just like not having good players right so it was definitely like it was definitely a tough moment throughout my career did you have to find yourself like I don't know just like after the season being over like figure out a way to like boost yourself back up was it that low because like I said when I listened to him talk about it it sounded it's the side that we don't realize because we obviously make fun of an 0-16 team we have the jokes but these guys are all are all pros.
They're all humans. And every single week, like, your confidence has to probably evaporate by the end of the season.
Yeah, so for me, I had just gotten released by Tennessee before I joined Cleveland after eight seasons. And I actually had one of my better seasons in Cleveland individually.
And guys may not want to admit it, but the truth of the matter, when you're losing that many games, you start to become selfish. It's just like, yo, this team's going to blow up.
They're not bringing us all back. Like, we haven't won a single game.
I better damn well make sure, like, my performance on the field is going to warrant another team wanting me. So when the season ended for me, it was kind of like, all right, where can I end up? Because I don't want to come back to – like, I don't want to do this again.
So, hey, what are the opportunities going to be?

And, I mean, luckily for me, end up going to the right team

at the right time winning the Super Bowl.

It's just got to be about self-preservation at that point.

It's like don't get – you don't want to get injured that year, right?

You don't want to be the hurt guy on an 0-16 team

because then you might be in trouble next free agency.

So you mentioned Tennessee.

You wanted to come back in the building in Tennessee.

You want to be welcome there.

Quick question about your career, and most specifically one incident. Cortland Finnegan.
Oh, I knew that was coming. I just want to know what the film study was like the week after Cortland Finnegan got his ass beat by Andre Johnson.
Did you guys watch that on the coach's clicker? No, no. It got cut off.
I don't think they recorded the whole fight but you know that that whole like the build-up and everything surrounding that was insane so my rookie year I get there and I think Dre drags and it's funny because I end up playing with Andre in Tennessee but he drags Cortland down by his helmet off on Houston sideline and like Cortland like gets jumped on Houston sideline we have the defensive lineman Jason Jones get kicked at it. It was almost like a brawl within the game.
Then we played them on Monday night that same season. Cortland like karate chops Andre at the bottom of a pile on the play.
So like this thing had been brewing, brewing. And you got to, if you know Cortland, you understand.
Seventh round guy from Sanford, he came in, and his mindset was like, I'm a smaller guy. I can't compete with talent-wise with some of these receivers.
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to get in their head all game. And when he would go against Dre, his mindset was like, he's going to have to get kicked out of the game.
So when everything happens that day and Dre throws those punches, you can see Cortland is clapping in his face. in Cortland's mind, Dre just got kicked out of the game.
Because at that point, Cortland didn't do anything to warrant him getting kicked out of the game. Dre ripped his helmet off, so he ripped Dre's helmet off, and then they both get kicked out.
So I remember walking in the locker room after that game, and we played Houston in two weeks. Cortland goes up to me and Alteron Verner because it was me and Cortland was a starter and it was us three he goes fellas like get ready like first play of the game in two weeks like I'm out like I'm we're fighting there's no way I'm not fast forward to those two weeks we're playing Houston at home in Nashville Merton Hanks who handles the fines and different stuff in the league at the time is at the game in the flesh.
We're out there warming up just like the t-shirts and hoodies on, not the pregame stuff comes over, pulls Cortland aside, lets him know like, Hey, if, if anything happens today, it's going to be a hefty fine. Cortland comes back like, well, fellas, I'll be playing today.
So it was, it was one of those things where it was just like, you felt for him because he never got his chance for that get back. But, man, that battle between those two was brewing for years before it kind of spilled over at that point.
Yeah, so playing defense in the NFL, you kind of have your career spanned all the rule changes and everything. Is it overstated how hard it is to play defense now, or is that accurate? How everyone's like, look, cornerbacks, defensive backs, they just have no chance.
Or even defensive linemen trying to hit the quarterback, they have no chance. Do you feel that? Like, could you feel the change where it's like, this is just becoming, clearly the league wants scoring.
This is becoming almost impossible for us to do our job. Oh, it's extremely hard.
I mean, think about it. For a guy rushing the passer, you're not allowed to hit the quarterback below the knees even when he has the ball right so if you're rushing you end up on the ground you have to wait and get up to then try to tackle the quarterback like that just sounds crazy to try to do something like that and for the DBs this year it's a point of emphasis emphasis to call illegal contact when you five yards.
It's hard enough to cover a guy. Now we're just going to make it even harder because whenever it's a point of emphasis in the league, it's just like expect to see a ton of flags come out whenever you touch a guy.
But you'll watch a receiver push off and do all types of things. So definitely not overstated.
Playing defense, that's why corners get paid so much money. Yeah, I've always said that cornerback is the hardest position to play in football.
Corner and left tackle. Physically the hardest position to play in football.
Yeah, so what was it about cornerback that made you want to play it? I have to assume that most kids growing up, they want to be a running back. They want to be wide receiver.
They want to be a quarterback. Why did you decide to play defense? Yeah, I was a really good high school running back.
Not far from here in North Jersey. I was 155 pounds when I went into college.
I don't think I was picking up a middle linebacker on a blitz at the running back position. So I was good at cornerback.
And after 13 years, it paid well. So I have no problem.
You build a certain level of mental toughness playing corner because there are going to be guys that beat you. So I definitely enjoyed it.
And just that challenge of knowing like week in and week out, you're going against the best athlete on the island by yourself and you got to perform. I also assume you just can't catch.
I'm not that great, yeah. Yeah.
I think 18 career interceptions and I probably dropped 10 more. Anytime a cornerback drops a ball, we're just like, well, he's a cornerback for a reason.
Receivers that can't catch. Yeah, right.
There you go. Yeah.
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Like, is it harder to guard? Let me ask it this way. Is it harder to guard the guy who's just faster than everyone? Or is it harder to guard a guy who has that wiggle like a Julian Edelman who's you know making cuts in the middle of the field yeah uh speed is the toughest thing to cover to me by far you can have a really good receiver if he can't run the one thing I'm gonna say is all right like I don't have to I can take my time a little bit but that's not to discredit like going against especially you mentioned Jules like Jules is tough to cover not only because of his wiggle and his physical ability but Jules was a monster on the field like you didn't know whether it was going to be a run play he was going to fire off the line of scrimmage and just headbutt you to block you or whether he was going to be tired that one play and just kind of like put a hand up and let you run to the ball you just never knew what to expect from him.
But Jules was just so damn tough just as a person that he was hard. But there was a guy, Brandon Lloyd, that used to play in Denver.
And Buddy could just torque his body any which way to catch a football that nobody talks about and was a really good receiver. But Calvin Johnson was a guy that literally looked like a tight end when you were watching film when you play a calvin johnson are you in your mind being like all right if he goes like 100 for a touchdown that's a successful day for me like because it's weird to play against a guy like that knowing that no matter what you do the best you can possibly be he's still gonna get it it would be a successful day for us because we're going to double team him every play.
Yeah, yeah. That simple.
It's funny because I would watch, with my brother being in New England, I would watch their game plans against certain guys. And the year Revis was there, Revis never covered Calvin Johnson when they played him in the game.
They put Brandon Browner on him and put the safety over the top. And whoever the next best receiver was was just like, all right, Revis, you just go cover him all by yourself.
And I got a chance to go there with Stephon Gilmore, and there would be times where we would do the same thing. Gilly would be on the best guy, but whenever we want to double team him, Gilmore would go away from him.
And for me, it was like a resurgence of my career. Like, oh, yeah, I'll go to the double team as a 10-year guy.
Gilly, you go over there and earn all the money and do the tough matchup. Yeah, go ahead.
I was just going to ask about Belichick and Rutgers because he seems to be a real pervert for Rutgers. He knows where the talent is.
He absolutely loves. He cannot get enough Rutgers in his building.
So whether it's certain players that went there, you, your brother went there, he loves coaches that have spent time at Rutgers. What is it about Rutgers that makes Bill Belichick just, like, perk his ears up? I mean, I think for him, when you're searching for that diamond in the rough, you can go there.
I mean, you look at a Devin McCourty, a Deron Harmon, a Logan Ryan. Did you say a Devin McCourty? Yes.
That's awesome. A player of that caliber.
But I think even, like, so Steve Belichick played lacrosse at Rutgers. And I think when Bill would go there, he got a chance to know Coachiano,

who was at Rutgers while we were there. And I think just mindset-wise, both of those guys are very similar.

Old school, tough-nosed guys.

So I think he looked at it.

When I get a player coming from this program, coached by this coaching staff,

I know exactly what I'm going to get,

and I know they can handle what I'm going to throw at them. I think that's why he he's done it they're like more ready for his system because there's certain things that are in common are you a shiano man yeah i was there with shiano all all four he's shiano's batshit crazy ton of respect for him because he gets the job done he knows what the team needs and it was funny because like you said guys are prepared for it so i get drafted first i go to tennessee with coach je Fisher, who's opposite of those guys.
Players coach. Like, Fisher's going to let you come in at 11 in the morning after a long trip, sleep in, whatever.
And I'm telling Dev all about the league. Like, I'm telling you, bro, like, so much more laid back.
Like, we barely wear full pads in practice. Like, this thing is awesome.
And then he gets drafted by New England. He was like, what the hell were you talking about? This is just like being back at Rutgers.
How sick was the famous USF game? Because that was, like, when you think Rutgers football, I don't know if it's a bad thing or a good thing, but, like, it's a game. Yeah, it's good, but, you know, it's only one game, basically, in the last 20 years.
But James Gandolfini there, USF is, what, number two in the country, comes to Piscataway. You guys win.
Like, that was an all-time game. I remember it so vividly.
Yeah, we had a few of them. We had that one where they were two in the country, and then we beat Louisville when they were ranked really high.
Our kicker, like, pointed at the camera. It was one of those Thursday night games.
If somebody knows Rutgers, like like that's what they remember. Right.
Pandemonium is Piscataway. And I got a chance to play with Harry Douglas, who was at Louisville at the time.
And he's still mad at me to this day. Cause he felt like that was his, that was their chance.
That was their year. Brian Brom, him.
They had a ton of guys, but like, yes, to your point, like those games and those like two seasons is what Rutgers is known for. And hopefully now it's kind of like we've moved to the opposite end of it.
We're losing games by 50, but we're on the rise. Sheano's back.
We're on the rise. It's got to be tough.
Like, are you – do you think, like, oh, I wish I played in the Big Ten or, you know, like, because obviously it's – Yeah, it's tough. It's very tough.
It's tough. Rutgers has had a tough time in the Big Ten, you know, playing against the Ohio States, the Michigans, all that, although they beat Michigan a few years ago.
Yeah, yeah. But, like, is there a part of you that's like, oh, I kind of wish I was playing against these guys and not, you know, the old Big East? For sure.
I mean, I got drafted at the bottom of the sixth round. If I could have been playing against some of the caliber receivers that are in the Big Ten and these big names and all of that, you just get a chance to showcase your talent even more.
And, I mean, a chance to play in front of 100,000 people. As kids, you grow up watching those games and those stadiums and, like, the Charles Woodson's, the Tom Brady's, all of those players, and, like, getting an opportunity to actually go out there and be a part of that, I would have loved that.
I did, like, I read one anecdote that Belichick – because you played in – did you play in one bowl game, two bowl games in your career at Rutgers? Four. Oh, you played all four.
Okay, there you go. So he calls them pizza bowls though? Because he's like, they're trash bowls.
We played in the Papa John's bowl too. Yeah, he just calls any bowl.
It fits perfect. Any bowl that's not like the Rose Bowl or like the Peach Bowl.
If it's not the BCS, yeah. It's just a pizza bowl to him? Yeah.
It's hard to argue. We played the Papa John's bowl international bowl the texas bowl and insight bowl like nobody knows where those are located i just like calling them all pizza 100 some people call them toilet bowl games like hey pick pick your name if you can gamble on it's still a bowl game to me hey there you go i'm watching all i'm an nfl employee i'm not allowed to gamble oh is that right really yeah okay why not where how many teams would you put in a parlay like Calvin Ridley? I have no idea what a parlay is.
Oh, nice. He just winked at us.
So smart. So wait, NFL employees aren't allowed to gamble at all.
No. That's one of those rules that's definitely going to change.
Like on sports. Within five years.
Horse racing you can. I believe so.
Yeah. Well, yeah, all the guys go all the time.
Yeah, right. All coaches in college and NFL, basketball, football, everything, all of them bet on horses.
That's why you can't do anything else. Take advantage of the one you can.
All right, so good morning, football. You started five weeks ago.
Any surprises so far of how the show – what is it? Is it a three-hour show? is it tiring because i'd imagine like doing three hours live tv that's yo it goes by quicker than you think like in the beginning it felt like i did an audition at the end of june that felt long but now i'm just like nah like i feel like we're in and out next thing you know we're in the next hour so i feel like it's going fast the toughest thing is i'm up at 4 45 each morning that that that that's tough have you been able to figure out now like when kyle brink gets going like oh he's trying to get go viral on twitter with this yo when kyle gets i'm i'm always surprised at like what he's allowed to say i'm just like nobody's censoring this like like we can actually say this stuff on tv like yeah but's been impressive, I think, especially as a player.

We'll look at the meeting and just say, oh, yeah, you guys, you have a nice setup.

But there's no work.

You just come in here like, all right, I'll Google Jason McCourty,

throw a few questions at him.

And then doing it, you realize how much more work goes into it,

preparing for a show each and every day, having the content,

all that goes around.

And then the behind the scenes of producers and content creators and all of that stuff. It's just like, damn, like this is a well-oiled machine.
I'm happy to be a part of. And we, I mean, you know, Kyle and Peter Schrager and Jamie Erdogan, all like super talented.
So you're on like a super team when it comes to that show. I'm the rookie.
Like they've been doing it for a decade plus. So I'm in there asking them questions.
Like we'll get our emails for the rundown for the show and they'll have like acronyms and stuff all right we got a sock in tomorrow i need an fs so i'm the guy in there like yo what the hell is a sock what is it all are they lying they should lie to you about what those different things mean and just like embarrass you on camera they they haven't so i don't know if they're listening so now i may when the next question comes up i may get something like that and look like an idiot yeah what was the audition process like for tv you have to sit down pretend it's like a weekday in september and then hear the highlights how does that work so it's different kind of for all so i did the broadcast boot camp through the nfl in april and that was huge because you go to la at the headquarters of the nfl offices and all of that and we're there for like three days you do like a day and, like rundown of like, what is it like to call a game on TV, radio, podcast, and studio stuff. And they're giving you like information that you can learn and take with you.
And then the last day is like a full on live audition. So like we watched a two minute drill of a TV game from the year before.
And we're actually calling it as if we're there doing the game for radio. We went in studio with like real topics that were going on in the news at the time and at this thing there's the NFL Network stuff there's CBS NBC Westwood One there's all type of people looking for talent so that was kind of my main audition and then from there ended up doing a draft show for CBS Sports Network um and then ended up getting an opportunity I just went on Good Morning Football.
It wasn't like a mock thing. It was like I just went on for a day in June and whatever the topics were, Peter was there, Kyle was there, and Sarah Walsh was there from NFL Network.
And we just did two shows on a Monday and Tuesday. At the boot camp, do they teach you how to apologize if you say something that you shouldn't on the air? I love a good media apology.
No, they didn't. Do you want to role-play it real quick? What are we apologizing for? You called Justin Herbert a motherfucker accidentally during a game.
You meant to say Zach Wilson. You meant to say it was Zach, and he said Justin Herbert.
You're like, sorry, he actually did not have sex with anybody. I'd like to apologize.
All right, three two uh jason mccourty here i'm

representing uh part of my take at barstool sports and i just want to apologize my behavior was uh inexcusable um that's those actions will not happen again i think for myself i've gone through some self-reflection and i realized that those comments can be extremely hurtful I had to really take into account how they impact others. And words can do a lot of damage.
And I promise you guys will see better from me. And I will strive each and every day to be the best that I can be.
Wow. I believe it was great.
Here's a tip too. Don't ever notes app anything.
Because we will clown you for that. Anyone who does the notes app, it's immediate.
Like, dude, are you serious? Like you thought this was so important that you had to put on the notes 100 get out of here yeah the notes app is immediate like you've lost is it better just to not apologize or do you apologize to keep the job i like i like the all black background that you use on like instagram more often where it's just like a black or a blue screen and then the white text with the text and maybe like a giant quotation mark in it somewhere to show that it's a quote from you. I always like that.
That's a nice touch. Yeah.
With the notes app that still says like notes on it. Yeah.
And like you can take it. Yeah.
It's the lamest thing you can do. You automatically lose on that apology.
So that's just a little tip. All right.
So let's do some hot takes about this season. Okay.
Because football is coming. What is the thought that you're thinking right now about it could be a team, a player, anything, that this is what you're going to probably stand on going into this season? Well, I'll start with this.
We had Aaron Schatz come on the show, and he does the Football Insiders almanac, and he picked the Eagles. I have a future on them.
To go to the Super Bowl this year. Yeah.
And I'm – I guess cold take, I'm saying? I don't see that. Oh.
I don't see that happening. Why not? I just don't see them.
I think Hurts is good. I think he'll take another step.
I don't think that step is going to be to the Super Bowl. They made it to the playoffs last year.
They got killed by the Bucs in the first round of the playoffs. I mean – It was windy.
So – It was windy. Well, it may snow this year.
Well, no, but it was windy. I'm just saying, Jalen Hurts, it was windy.
Just to defend him real quick, it was windy. It was windy for the Eagles.
You can't account for that. Yeah, you can't account for the wind.
That's a first for me. Oh, that's another thing.
It was windy. Blame weather.
Blame any type of thing. It was cold.
Yeah. You can always.
Like the New England Buffalo game. Yeah.
It was cold. New England, I mean, Buffalo scored on every possession.
It's unimaginable to play defense in the cold. Exactly.
I remember a year where I went to Wisconsin. They played Ohio State, and it was raining, and I was like, I'd like to see Ohio State beat us on normal conditions.
Then we played in the Big Ten Championship game. They kicked the shit out of Wisconsin.
But I had that for a few months where I was like, yeah, play us man-to-man, straight up, regular conditions. So you can use that.
Weather's always good to use. Yeah, okay.
I have to go on my notes app and make sure I write this down for the future. I like the idea of Philadelphia winning that division because nobody repeats in the NFC East ever.
It's been like since 2005, 2004, something like that. So I do agree.
I think they make the playoffs, but I don't think they're going to be in the Super Bowl. I just don't see.
I do think it's going to be the three kind of power teams we've talked about, the Rams, the Packers, and the Bucs. I do believe it's going to one of them okay representing the nfc what what's the team that maybe you have your eye on in the nfc that's like out outside of those three that you could see because i i'll throw one at you i'm kind of i'm kind of thinking the vikings might be good this year i like the vikings i think i think we talk so bad about kirk cousins right kirk cousins had 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions last year.
But he does, I mean, he's Kirk Cousins. Yeah, I mean, he had the picture with no shirt on, showing his suntan.
He's kind of like the corky dude. But that's okay.
If you can throw 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions, we can win with that. So I think Kevin O'Connell going over there, what he can do.
I mean, we've already heard Jefferson say, Jefferson say hey like I see what Cooper Cupp was able to do on that offense I'm fired up to see what I can do I think the Vikings I would think the Vikings I would go with them as Super Bowl dark horse over the Philadelphia Eagles if I'm choosing between those two so my theory on the Vikings is like Kirk Cousins is a perfectly fine exactly average quarterback I've watched him his him his entire career. He's a great quarterback.
You don't want to pay him as much money as they're paying him ideally. But I think that there's something to this, and you can speak on it as a defensive player, where Mike Zimmer was a defensive guy, right? And he outwardly hated Kirk Cousins.
You could tell he could not stand the fact that he was paying this guy this much money, just like utterly did not.

He didn't have time for Kirk.

Now they brought in a guy that is specifically there to get the most out of

Kirk cousins,

the defense going into every game since they felt like they had their coach

like on their side as their guy.

I feel like the defense is more fired up.

They're like,

yeah,

this guy kind of sucks.

So it's on us to step up.

Now they've got a guy that's brought in to kind of coddle Kirk and the defense, i think is going to be a little bit it's not gonna have the same edge to him you said the defense won't have the same yeah because they don't have they don't have zimmer see i'll give you another perspective when you're on the defensive side of ball and you're balling you have a really good defense but you know if we give up a touchdown or we give up a touchdown late it's going to be damn near impossible for us to win the game it's a lot tougher when you have the chance when you have a quarterback in the offense where you feel like hey and you're sitting on the bench in a two-minute drill and you're very hopeful because you're like hey like we're good like they're gonna go down we're down two like we're definitely gonna get in field goal range that hypes the defense up when you're on a defense and you know your quarterback or you know your offense can go win the game, even if it is a very average Kirk Cousins, but you believe in Kevin O'Connell, you're like, hey, you give him the fourth quarter, three quarters, to be able to figure out what the defense is going to do. He's going to draw some shit up that we're going to be good.
As a defense, when you don't have that, you're totally deflated. Every play you give up is just our chances to win win just went down yeah it's huge i'm a big believer in that like even even an offense that maybe they're not scoring at an elite level but not getting three and outs exactly exactly because i'd imagine from a defensive side if you're playing and you've played on teams where it's like three and out three and out three and out i had nine different quarterbacks in tennessee yeah so like the fourth or fifth one you're like what the fuck we're just we just on the field the whole thing.
We would give up a play on the sideline and be like, all right, we can't give up any more points. And it's halfway through the first quarter, and it's just like, it's like, damn, well, Payton Manning's over there.
Like, they're going to score again. We're going to need some help.
So I think a better offense can sometimes kind of hype in that defense where, yeah, they may give up more points because that was the thing when I got to New England. It was harder to keep teams under 20 points when you have Brady who's possibly putting up 40 points.
There's more passes in the game. So it just changes the flow of the game opposed to when I was in Cleveland or I was in Tennessee with a team where we weren't as good.
The other team on the other side is just like, hey, no turnovers, no mistakes. We'll outlast them and we'll be able to win the game.
So the flow of the game is a little bit different. So you're saying you'd rather have Tom Brady as your quarterback than Jake Locker.
Or Mac Mettenberger. Tough one.
Jake Locker's kind of a what if. Jake Locker's a great, great dude, too.
Like, awesome dude. Kind of a what if.
Manberger was almost like the next Brady in a sense.

I love whenever there's a guy's draft.

If someone had a gun to my head, I'll go with Brady.

Yeah.

Anytime there's like a sixth or seventh round white dude who has like.

He was tall.

Yeah, who controls the game.

A couple times.

Ryan Mallett.

Next Brady.

Yeah, Ryan Mallett couldn't.

His alarm situation was tough. Yeah.
Did wake up. A lot going on.
All All right, so AFC. Yeah.
I mean, AFC's – Yeah. It's crazy how loaded the AFC is.
Unreal. And I know every year we do this when we go into a season and we're like, all right, you can put in the Chiefs, the Bills, list them off.
There's obviously going to be one team that will maybe fall off from that. So what's the team that made the playoffs last year? You could be like, ah, because there's a lot of times where that will happen where you just write in the Bengals, the Chiefs, the Chargers, who didn't even make the playoffs.
What team do you think that everyone's expecting to be really good might take a step back? Well, I'll name a few. I think it's going to be interesting what happens in New England.
I think they're a team that made the playoffs last year with Mac Jones as a rookie quarterback who played really well. They've gone through what's been the talk of the entire offseason with Josh McDaniels leaving and taking a ton of coaches with him of what their offense is going to be like.
I think it's going to be interesting for them in that division because Buffalo, Josh Allen, they're to be there they're not falling off but miami got better i mean they added weapons all over the place now the question is we just talked about kirk cousins and an offensive coach being able to come and kind of electrify the offense what is mike mcdonald you're going to do for tua to be able to electrify that offense and make it similar miami had a defensive-minded coach in Flo, who was kind of focused.

He wants to have a great defense and run the ball.

Now you get a Mike McDaniel, a guy who's an offensive guy,

and the defense is still the same.

So I'm interested to see with them.

And then I think the AFC West.

Like the Raiders were in the playoffs last year,

but then we look at it, the Chargers didn't make it,

the Broncos didn't make it, but it's just like,

why don't we think – like this division is going to be very tough they're going to beat up on each other I know that's what everybody's talked about but I do think the Chiefs are still going to be there I mean Patrick Mahomes you've watched him this preseason lot yes no Tyreek Hill but I mean he's a magician with the ball in his hands you mentioned flow when Belichick had his he you know he screwed up his text messages I. You know, black Brian, white Brian, he didn't know which one he was texting.
Were you called for a character witness? Because he once did screw up you and your brother, right? He did mess that up, didn't he, before Super Bowl? Yeah, early on when we got there, like, he didn't know who was. I was just called Devin most of the time.
I think he was just used to saying that name so it was just like devin what are you doing it was just like no i'm jason coach uh but no i didn't i didn't get called in i think that's a that's a simple fix like like you just said you go into contacts you just make a little edit to the names and that simplifies it did he do he when you weren't on the patriots he screwed, right? He did. That was Dev's second year.
They make it to the Super Bowl in Indianapolis and they're playing the Giants and we're down there. And I know too well the family schedule.
When you go down to the Super Bowl, I tell other people, I won one, went to that Super Bowl. I played in, but I've been to five of them because I went to four of them as, as the brother of Devin McCourty, but we're there Saturday before the Sunday game, and that's when you do the whole family pictures and everybody's down on the field.
So I'm down there. I think I'm dressing like jeans and a hoodie or something, and Bill walks up to me and is like, what the hell are you doing? Like, you got to get dressed.
We're doing the team. And he doesn't finish the sentence.
He's like, oh, hell. Jason had no idea.
Like, just blew it. And I was just like, if you want me to go put a uniform I'll line up for you guys whatever y'all need I'll run down on kickoff but yeah definitely have you ever thought about doing something like that like going back to high school one of you guys sprains an ankle the other like puts on the uniform real quick steps in I remember my uh my second year devs rookie year Jeff Fisher comes up to me wearing practice he was just like, you and your brother look quite alike, huh? He was just like, I bet if he walked in here and you left, we wouldn't know.
I was like, no one would have any idea. This would be the year to do it.
I'm out the league. I fly up to Foxboro, put the stuff on.
I know the defense. I know where I'm walking in the building.
This would be the time for me to go up there and get some stuff done. I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job, but that would be an electric good morning football segment where you just try to live a day and see if anyone notices.
Just walk into the building and see. I would just need one person in New England to be okay with it because somebody has to tell Deb to stay home so he doesn't get fined.
That's the way they do it. God forbid he breaks a finger or something like that and needs a couple weeks off.
You just put the pads on. You split the check with him.
That would be the tough negotiation. He'd have to give up some of that money.
How much would it cost for you to step in? Would you need those full two weeks to pay for his contract if you stepped in and played two games for him without anybody knowing yeah you said split you know i if i'm playing i'm going to meetings i need that full two and he's he's still getting paid a lot so he's getting paid a lot more than me so yeah just so you know if he does like twist an ankle or something like that he's and he's out for a week i'm and when he comes back i just going to say that it's you. I'm going to spread that rumor.
Wait to see how he plays first, though. If he's out there stinking it up, don't put that on me.
Let him take that. Another media tip for you, just anytime a quarterback does something great, just be like, if Patrick Mahomes did this, everybody would go nuts.
That's just a good thing to say. People love that shit.
Anytime a quarterback does a little sidearmarm pass and people brought my notebook like matt stafford he does that a lot and people do go nuts when matt stafford does it but it's more impactful if you tell people like hey you'd be freaking out if mahomes did this but you're not doing it right yeah that's perfect i love that i love that yeah mahomes is the houdini all right so i know you can't talk gambling wink wink. So I'm going to ask a question that's not gambling but maybe has a little gambling undertone.
The psychological aspect of like a letdown game. Is it real in the NFL? Because we see it all the time in college.
Like if a college team, you know, I'm sure when you guys beat USF, you probably didn't have the best practice the next week. We beat Louisville and then we go to Cincinnati and get our ass broke.
Right, right. Because you're kids.
And it's like, all right, we're the big man on campus. We got this.
Does that happen in the NFL? Is there after a big win, can you notice that maybe it's everyone's – maybe not as focused the next week? Nobody talks about it. The only person I've heard, Julian Edelman.
There would be times in New England where we're bringing it up and he decides to give a speech. And he started off and be like, we're in a trap game, boys.
We got to figure it out. We're in a trap game.
And everybody's dying laughing. Because anybody that's been around Bill Belichick, the last thing he wants to hear is somebody talking about a game as a trap game and kind of saying that, all right, this is that letdown game.
But nobody talks about it. Like, you just – I think in the league, especially depending upon what team you're on, like, each game has its own kind of anthems or themes for it.
Like, you could be with New England and you win a tough game versus whoever, the Chiefs or whatever, and then the next week you're playing the Jets and you're just like, all right, this is the letdown game. But in New England, you hate the Jets.
So just like if this is an easy team, like we want to beat the brakes off of them. Or it's a team that's at a conference and it's just like, well, we barely play this team, so we're going to have to put an extra.
I feel like there's always something that makes that game tough because it only happens for the good teams. The bad teams, you're trying to win every single game because you just lost the one before.
But I think for the good teams teams there's always some form of a theme or something going on that makes that game important at the time okay okay that makes sense what was the team that you hated the most that i played on or while i was playing playing against well we can do both either rounds yeah you already said you don't want to be back in that facility um team i hated while playing um i would say when i was in tennessee playing against houston there was a lot of there was a lot of hate i think there's history between the titans from houston as the oilers then going over to tennessee so there was always like a rivalry that was forming and that was brewing in two relatively new teams because tennessee hadn't had a team until they moved from houston and then houston was the expansion team so there was always kind of those rivalries. And then the fact that Cortland and Andre got into a fight didn't help the fact that when we played them, you better be ready to go.
Okay, so I had one last question. This has been great.
We appreciate you coming by, Jason. You're now a recurring guest, so you have to come anytime we ask.
It's down the street from the studio. Yeah, we'll chop it up.
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Give us your Super Bowl pick. Matchup and winner.
Super Bowl pick. Again, remember everything we've told you.
It doesn't matter. Yeah.
All right, I'm telling you my winner off rip. I'm going with the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen.
Okay. Like it.
I see him. And this is also my reasoning with him.
There hasn't been many times. I don't know if there's been a time where you've won the Super Bowl and the league MVP.
And I feel like Josh Allen's trajectory is going that way. But I feel like the storyline this year will be Patrick Mahomes losing Tyreek Hill and him continuing to be able to put up a performance.
He'll be possibly the MVP, maybe. We'll see.
But on the NFC side, oh, man, I think I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go.
Why not? I'm going to do a team that nobody wants to hear. I'll go to Dallas Cowboys.
I'm going to put them in the Super Bowl. I'll go on Twitter, and whoever reads this is going to kill me.
We did a segment where we had to talk about who was under the most pressure in the NFC East quarterbacks, and I chose Dak Prescott, and somebody tweeted me like, why the hell are you always talking about the Cowboys? I'm like, I'm literally saying they're under pressure because they may not do it, but everybody's saying it. So people hate to hear about the Cowboys.

Also, I mean, that's just TV.

Like, talk about the Cowboys.

It doesn't matter what you say.

Yeah, right, and you'll get people watching.

Exactly.

Okay, yeah, I mean, that would be an all-time classic matchup.

Why not? I mean, Bill's Cowboys again, but yeah, I don't –

You don't see it.

Mike McCarthy, to me, he just –

It feels like they're just waiting to fire him.

He's too dumb.

Yeah, he is.

I'm just going to say, that's what he's thinking.

We all think it.

Mike McCarthy is a dumb dumb.

Yeah.

And he's just, they're just waiting to fire him.

They're like, hey, we're going to do this again.

Every time Jerry Jones talks, that's what it sounds like.

Yeah.

Sean Payton is probably flying in the back of Jerry Jones' plane just in case this is

the week that Mike McCarthy gets fired.

Right.

We'll just switch him right out.

Take over. Yeah.
Yeah. I sound a little mean when I call Mike McCarthy dumb, but he's dumb.
Yeah, no, he's dumb. He sat down at that opening press conference and he was like, yeah, I sat down with a guy that's really good at computers and he taught me about all these stats.
That was bullshit. Mike McCarthy, he doesn't give a shit about stats.
Well, and it's also, I mean, it's just a fact. As myself like when you're when you're overweight and you're dumb you're extra dumb like it just there's something about it where it's just like well he's really dumb i've always been really skinny so i don't know i can't yeah i don't know the feeling of being like it takes a while for people to say you're dumb it takes a while for them to notice yeah whereas like mike mccarthy it's like he's kind of like drooling on his face like what is going on he on? He's dumb.
Yeah. Like, Bill can say something dumb and people be like, oh, that's just his secret genius at work.

But Coach Bielema says something dumb and they're like, oh, Jesus Christ.

Yeah.

Right.

He's a slob.

Yeah.

No, it's true.

I'm just laughing at the fact that he went to Coach Bielema.

Yeah.

Former Patriots coach.

I was with Brett in New England.

He's a good dude, though.

We like him. Really good.
But he's a huge guy. Huge guy.
Big dude. Yeah.
Coaching lifestyle is tough. Like, not much sleep.
Sometimes you're just grabbing a treat. It's tough to stay healthy as a coach, man.
Get those workouts in. It's tough.
You think about becoming a coach after you retire? It was always going to be like, let's see what we can do in media? If not media, just figuring out what was next. Never coaching.
I said to my wife, I hope I never get the urge to coach. It's just, I mean, they're in the building daily until like midnight.
You miss so much of the world going on outside of just like we're trying to win a Super Bowl. Oh, I had one last, last question.
Sorry. We've talked about this with Jules jewels but was there ever a moment that ernie

adams pulled you aside and was like hey here's a little tip it was more like history of somebody would something would come up like maybe eight o'clock a.m and in a meeting or something came up somebody asked a question about it had the answer it'd be like four o'clock days ending and Ernie would come up to you with like a whole stat and a story behind like why something was installed it was almost like incredible that it was just like damn he remembered that and the thing that was fun about Ernie like he would draw the cards that for the scout team on Friday practices so like as a defense like Friday as a vet is just like I'm not going through the motions but like I gotta get ready for we're two sleeps away from the game i gotta get ready i'm not trying to go out here and run 100 and the offense sometimes the scout team offense would go out there and destroy us and like for guys on the defense you'd be like man ernie's drawing shit up like they didn't show this on film in the past 16 15 weeks and now all of a sudden we're getting a double reverse pass on a friday and it's just like you could say something to ernie he'll he'll have like in 1984 they ran this play something like he's brilliant brilliant ever like work out that he would run something in i can't remember i can't remember which team we played but i mean we got killed in a friday practice to the point where this was an 18 flow the practice and, like, snapped on all of us. We had one of our best performances on defense that Sunday and shut out.
I don't remember who we played, but killed him that Sunday. Ernie is a genius.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we love hearing just – I mean, Jules gives us a little bit.
I think he holds some of it back. Yeah.
There's a mystery around Ernie Adams. Yeah.
Okay, well, Jason, thank you so much. Good luck with the new show.
Like I said, you've got to come back. Yes, sir.
So you're right down the street. Maybe we'll have you back when the Cowboys start like 1-6 or something.
We're like, what do you think now? I'm going to say I never said that. Yeah, no, we're going to hold you to everything.
Yeah, I never said that. Let us know if you go up to New England for a week.
Yeah, we'll figure that out. Make that video.
That's a good video. Yeah, we'll get you guys to sponsor it so we can get some money out of it.
We would sponsor that video, yes. Absolutely.
All right, thanks so much, Jason. Hey, it's Rhea from Trix in the Office.
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I assume the week of, the first week of September, we're not going to do any because football will be back. Yeah, I would agree.
We probably only have three left ever. Why? Ever, because I think this is going to destroy the podcast.
Yeah, it might destroy the podcast. So Hank has, if you miss Fridays, Hank stabbed Batgirl and memes in the back, threw them off the bus, said that I want to do this shit myself, pouted, being a little bitch.
Some people are saying, not me. I love you, Hank.
Being a little bitch. No, I have no bad attitude.
Listen, I have no problem with what Hank did, but if he had done it to me, I would be like, wow, this guy's a terrible human being. Right.
Basically, like almost a how to of how not to be a coach or a leader of a team. How to alienate your entire team and turn the world against you.
No, I'm calling plays myself now. By Hank Lockwood.
Okay. Call and plays yourself.
So, Hank, would you? Did we win? We won last time, yeah. Oh, we won.
Should we let Hank go? Did you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they won by like 5%.
Yeah, we won. Shout out Nick Handrich, AWL, for the recommendation on this one.
Oh, yeah. So, this is Mount Rushmore of things that it sucks to be late to? Late for? I say we do Hank a favor and we let him take the end of the snake so he gets two picks in a row.
Okay. I think that's the best place to be.
Okay. Should we go first then? Yeah, we can go first.
Or do you want to let Jake and Billy go first? Yeah, they'll fuck it up. Let them go first.
All right, so Jake and Billy. Oh, wow.
Jake, Billy, and Max. Yeah, we have Max.
We have memes. We have Max.
We are all pretty much in agreement on our 1-1. By the way, just as a side note, we have memes on our team, and we're not going to do what Hank did and bash memes, but memes contributed nothing to this fucking Mount Rushmore.
Zero. Well, he said that he said the thing that he sent over to us, his first one, he said, should be 1-1.
Yeah. I don't know about that.
Maybe he's a spy and he's still giving Hank picks. Oh, is he double-crossing us? You guys are shook.
Did memes send Hank our entire list? All right. Yeah, he probably did.
Okay, here we go. That's good because we put a few fake ones on there just in case.
Yep. All right.
Which one? We have an agreement. Yeah.
One-one. Worst things to be late to.
Job interview. Late two, late four? Yeah.
A job interview. Job interview.
Okay. Job interview.
Yeah. It's not a good one.
Good one. You're in a hole.
Okay. Yeah.
You're not ready.. That's absolutely true.
You're just fucked. What? You're fucked.
Yeah, you're fucked. All right, our 1-1 pick, you agree with this 1-1, right? That's a good 1-1.
Yeah. Things that sucks to be late for, late to, pulling out.
Really bad. Really bad when you're late.
Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it. Just kills it.

Guess what?

Oh, babe, I'm about to pull out.

Oh, shit.

Guess what?

Now you have to raise a kid.

Well, there's alternate options, too.

That's not...

Whoa, what state are you living in, buddy?

Plan B.

Excuse me?

Is plan B not in every state?

Maybe not for long.

Yeah, pulling out. That sucks.
Pulling out. Job interviews job interviews, so what? You don't get the job.
There's other jobs out there. Now you got a kid.
Right. Okay.
Billy also just like, that one blew his mind because he was thinking like, job interview, weddings. There's some other things out there.
I had that on, what was it? the other Matt Rushmore the other day. What? Yeah, it was like.
Things in slow motion. Yeah, slow motion pulling out.
Yeah. Okay, Hank.
Hank has written it down on a piece of paper. I do.
He's wearing a collared shirt. And I still, and this football guy, crew neck.
Which is a great, great sweatshirt. I still have my one-one.
I feel like I'm being trolled to an extent.

But my one-one is your child being born.

Okay.

Yeah, they don't remember.

You might be playing a football game at the time.

I think here the person having the child probably would.

Maybe.

Yeah, true.

Do you think, though, maybe the person having the child is more mad that she's having the child because you forgot to pull out?

No.

Okay.

That's a little chicken and the egg right there.

Which one are you more mad at?

Two, I will go with a fantasy football draft.

Oh, yeah.

That is bad.

That's pretty bad.

You show up late for that.

You tank your whole season.

Auto draft, yeah.

And then everyone else is mad at you, too.

You can draft from your phone nowadays, though.

Yeah, it's not the same.

If you're on time, yes.

Yes, on time. If you forget about it.
That would be being on time. Yeah.
You're not doing places. No, if you just forget.
If you just are late to your fantasy football draft, you do the auto draft, and you get, like, a guy who just got injured. It fucking sucks.
Or you do the thing where you get a defense in, like, the sixth round. Yeah.
One time I was late for a... I was doing a baseball MLB fantasy draft when I was in college, and I just completely forgot about it.
And all the other guys in that league, nine guys, it took me like five years to get that friendship back. They were so mad that I fucked up their entire draft.
How are the CMAT Express doing? Oh, good question, Hank. Let's see.
I might need to re-download the app because I forgot about it for the last month. When I was a kid, my dad was so committed to not being late to a fantasy draft that he actually left me at the Little League field.
That's good parenting because it's lead by example. Because he had a draft.
Alright, update on the Seamhead Express. He didn't pick me up.
He was supposed to pick me up and he had a draft so he forgot about me. And there was like no cell phones.
They were doing like a fucking overhead projector legit and and you couldn't like you have to call in trades and shit no but like how did you know i'm saying you couldn't call him there was no cell phones no right no no no none of that yeah 14 4 and 0 win percentage 778 first place in the east i got the number one overall seed right now if the playoffs started nice i'm a wagon. Nice.
And I still have – no, no, I cut Tatis. I cut him.
Good. Cut his ass.
Good. Send a message.
To the youngsters out there. All right, we got next pick.
I think we should go – yeah. It's kind of topical.
I saw the one that you sent. You don't like those top three? No, I like them, but then I went back, and I like the one, two, three, fourth one that I sent you.

Maybe we take that one in the last round,

the fourth one that I sent you.

So I'll go with our number two on this list.

Yeah, yeah.

Go into the bathroom.

Don't want to be late for that.

If you're on a train, you're trying to get somewhere,

hypothetically, and you end up having a full blowout.

Sad day, bad day.

It's a catastrophe. It looked like George Brett dumped a can of wolf chili into his underwear.
It was bad. It was really bad.
Being late for the bathroom, that's really, really bad. Yeah.
Honestly, it got into my head. Oh, yeah.
Now I'm like, every time I feel something in my stomach, I sprint to a bathroom because I can't have that happen. That's like watching...
Remember that? What was that movie that... Fuck.
Adam Driver and... Scarlett Johansson.
Marriage. You watch that with your significant other and you're like, whoa.
That's the same effect that I had when I watched Jerry's and I'm like, whoa. I have to do a systems check.
Yeah. You watch Chernobyl and you're like, that could happen to me i have to do a systems check yeah like a like this is you you watch chernobyl and you're like that could happen to me dude i'm not even kidding the last couple days i've pooped probably like three times four times a day what billy was that you're a poop guy billy keeps saying i'm a poop guy are you a poop guy are you a poop guy we like are you a poop guy i think.
You're a poop guy. Pooping takes up a lot of your day.
Yeah, you're a poop guy. We wait for the podcast because you're pooping? No, no, no.
You're a poop guy. No, I never delay this podcast with my butt.
Where were we? Sometimes. I delay macro dosing occasionally.
Where was he pooping recently on Grit Week? We were in In-N-Out, and he was just pooping the whole time. I was like, where's PFT? And he's pooping.
You're a poop guy. That no you're pooped scott boris yeah yeah oh yeah i did poop yeah see i might i might be saying this you are yeah he might be right you're absolutely right he is a poop but but i've been to hold up the group poop guy i've been pooping more often recently just because that jersey jerry video because i don't want it to happen to me i've been running to the bathroom oh yeah no yeah.
No, I left the house today with my kids, and I felt like I had maybe a little something going. I was like, wait.
I should probably take care of this now. Yeah, it's better safe than sorry.
So, yeah. Whatever.
I'm a poop guy. My digestive system is healthy.
I don't think you can control it. It does suck being the poop guy.
Everyone's like, oh, yeah. We got to wait.
Oh, it's like PFT's taking a shit. It it rarely happens it's so much we we just gave four examples over the course of seven years doing this podcast but i don't think you have an example of anyone else that's the problem if you were gone we would know oh he's probably yeah jake's a bit way bigger i've never run out in the middle of an episode never done that he's got weak bowels but that's different i think jake's got great bowels like if you went missing everyone assumes it's because you're pooping yeah he's just pooping You just forgot that you're pooping.
Like that. He's got weak bowels, but that's different.
I think Jake's got great bowels. Like, if you went missing, everyone assumes it's because you're pooping.

Yeah, you're just pooping.

You just forgot that you're pooping.

Like that one day that I came in at 1 o'clock, I was actually just pooping the entire time.

Exactly.

It's a correct call by Billy.

You are the poop guy.

Okay, whatever.

I'm a poop guy.

Okay.

Billy.

Jake.

You have two.

We're going to go.

We're going to go first.

You guys, you see that?

Okay.

Oh, no.

There's some.

No, I got distracted by the poop guy, and I didn't see what our 2-2 was.

So is this a Billy pick, or is it a Jake pick?

Or a Max.

Team Game.

Or Max, yeah.

Why does it matter? We all agreed on these picks. So your own wedding.
Okay. Being late is your own wedding.
Yeah, good pick. Because then are you standing them up? Like you're late.
What were you doing the night before? Bachelor party gone wrong. You get really judged by everybody.
Maybe you're just stuck on a rooftop in Vegas. Exactly.
Yep. So it's always weird in movies because I don't think this ever happens in real life.
But every movie that's about a wedding, they always have the bachelor party the night before. Yeah.
Which is the worst idea that you can ever have. Nobody really does that, right? It's crazy.
I want to know if there are any AWLs out there that- I think that's like an old back in the day. I know my dad did that.
I think it's guys too- It's up like sweating and- Yeah. Who don't have a lot of friends.
So they they're like the only chance i can get anyone is to have them already be at the wedding so like they play golf before you know what i mean like yeah if you are someone who might not have a ton of friends and you're like well if i do a bachelor party and there's three guys here it's gonna be lame so we'll just trap everyone and just make everyone go play golf yeah like there's always a guy in the group that's like, I don't want to go to the wedding, but

can you invite me to the bachelor party?

Yeah. And this is a way to trap them and be like, guess what? You have to do both.
I think it's also moved that if you think that there's a chance that you, you might get cold feet, you have the bachelor party the night before. And then you have like, you're more, you're more likely when you're super hung over to call it off.
Shout out, by the way, the AWL that I saw on the way to Miami, boarding my plane, he goes, he's like 25, and he came up to me, he was talking, he's like, yeah, I'm going to my first ever bachelor party. And the twinkle in his eye, it was like a passing of the torch, because I think this is the last one I'll ever go on.
And he was so excited, he's like, going to a club, we this. And I was just like, I look like I was going to fucking war.
I was like, yeah, I'm doing the same thing as you, but I'm just not going to be able to recover. One of the cruel tricks in life is the more excited you are to go on a bachelor party when you're young is when you don't have, like, not everybody has steady jobs and good incomes when you're younger and you're super excited to go on a bachelor party.
Then when you get older and you can actually afford to do all the stuff that you wanted to do when you were 22, 23, you don't want to do that anymore. Yeah.
I had a great time, but I also feel like hell. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Next pick. Max, would you like to announce it? Ooh, big moment.
Wow. Wow.
Great. Great.
Yeah. Awesome.
I don't think, I don't think that's ever happened. happened, right, Max? No, I'm just happy to be a part of a team that appreciates my presence here.
Didn't Hank used to keep you in a cage? Yeah, no, no, for sure, for sure. Yeah, did he refill your bowl tonight? We use his government name, too.
Nice. Beautiful.
That's true. It's very nice.
We'll go with our third pick as flights. Ah, good pick.
Good pick. Being late to a flight costs you a couple hundred bucks at the best case scenario.
Yeah. A bunch of stress.
Even if you're on time for your flight, barely, but you're like late getting to the airport, that's almost worse. The stress that you have when you're in the cab on the way there and you're just thinking you're doing the math.
Like, am I going to make it? Am I going to be late? And then you run through security, you're sweating. TSA holds you.
They always check your bag when you're, when you think that you might be late for the flight and then you sprint and then you get on the plane and you're like the last person on the plane. You're out of breath.
That entire situation is bad. Or when you're, yeah, you're like, cause you never know.
Security lines are always like so inconsistent. There's no time where sometimes they're good.
Sometimes they're bad It's just a complete crapshoot. So you're pulling up to the airport being like, I need it to be a small line.
I need it to be a small line. And then if it's even half the size or like a full long line, you're like, I'm fucked.
But you still have to go through the line just in case. And then you end up having like one minute to sprint to the terminal.
Yeah, and you think you're going to be on time and getting through. and then you remember about time zones, and you're like, oh, shit, I'm an hour late for this flight.
I get a sick rush. Going back there this weekend.
We'll see. Oh, nice.
Uh-oh. Careful.
They change their times. Careful.
I know. All right, good pick.
Our third pick. What do you think? Let's see.
I think that we take the one that I just told you about. We take coming back because hank's not gonna take that one no he's an idiot i i kind of like i like the one that we have on there the third yeah i do too the third one's pretty good okay um calling a foul and pick up hoops no one likes that guy i mean that's the worst thing you can be as a person to call the foul after then just be like, oh, you hit my hand.
Yeah, after the shot doesn't go in. Yeah.
Have you ever called it early and then you get it in and they don't count the shot? Like pre-crime? No, I guess I'm about to follow. I don't call fouls.
No, but like you get fouled really hard, but you still go up and you call foul. Well, that's what you do.
You call it when it happens. Right, right.
But then they don't give you the and one. I like it when it's just obvious that there's a foul.
And it's just like no one even has to call it. It's just like that was clearly a foul.
Or the guy who fouls calls a foul. But when you call a foul on someone after a play in pickup hoops, you are the worst person alive.
And it's like a 50-50 call or not even a foul. The worst.
Michael Irvin in Longest Yard against Adam Sandler. Yeah, that's right.
That was a dirty play. Yep.
Yep. Okay.
Hank. I'm going to go with my third pick, Court.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Imagine you get the stink eye. Well, yeah.
It's got to be tough. Show up late.

I'm sure the judge doesn't appreciate that.

You're just screwing yourself.

You're in contempt.

Well, you end up waiting for so long.

Say what you will about OJ, but he always showed up on time to court.

It's true.

He was technically in jail.

But when you go to court, they just end up, you have to wait for everybody else.

Court opens at 11.

How many times have you been to court?

Yeah, what?

It opens at 11?

Just court in general always opens at 11?

What are you doing here, Bill?

And what people are you waiting for?

Traffic court.

Traffic court?

Traffic court.

What about other court?

Just traffic.

What time does that court open?

For citations and traffic violations, it's 11 o'clock.

Speeding tickets.

Speeding tickets.

Speeding tickets.

That's it? Then you go and then you have to wait for everybody else everybody else right I don't know why anyone else would be going to court right right a lot of things people go to court for many reasons just speeding tickets that's it yes nothing else never I've actually never gotten any sort of criminal trouble. You're knocking on wood.

You can control that. I know.

I've only gotten traffic violations.

You knock on wood when it's like,

I hope I don't break my leg.

Billy definitely thinks that at some point

in his life he will be the target of mass framing

where the entire world is against

him.

Happens to some people. Like who?

Anyone recently? Snowden?

Anyone recently? No. Okay.
him happens to some people like who anyone recently snowden anyone recently no okay uh give billy's due process everybody okay okay our pick is we got billy so flustered you're two picks away okay yeah as soon as we start talking about crime bill Billy's just ready to commit to everything.

All right.

Go ahead.

And then my final pick, I will go with a sports tryout.

Okay.

So what is your four?

Your child being born, court, fantasy football draft, sports tryout. A sports tryout.

That's an interesting last pick. Was there anyone specifically you were thinking of? Because that seems like it came out of the blue.
No, I mean, I think because... Has anybody been late to a sports tryout? I'm sure there's a lot of people that have been late to a sports tryout.
Obviously, the coaches, they want to make an example of someone. Isn't that on your parents anyway? You should be like, my parents fucking suck.
Well, yeah, but maybe you're in college, you're trying out for a team, whatever whatever it may be if you're late for a sports trial you're just you're screwing yourself i'll stand up for hank a little bit there's nothing worse than being late to a high school football meeting right i'm just saying the coach that's what that's what they love is like everybody's five minutes early to my meeting between that and and you're and showing up late to the first practice of the season because then you're that, yeah. But you can kind of make up for that throughout the rest of the season.
That's always like – coaches almost like that because they can make an example out of you and then get better during the season. But you show up late to a tryout, that might be the reason you get cut.
Some coaches are like that where it's like, well, he's good, but he showed up late. We can't have that on this team.
When you're a kid, though, there's definitely all the kids like there's always one kid on every team whose parents are just a mess and like not mess like bad but just they're always late it's like yeah that's their parents fault so there's definitely a point where it becomes your fault but for a long time you're i mean you can't drive yourself so right it's an eight-year-old's late yeah right it's not his fault Right. Okay.
Unless he was pooping. Yeah.
My, our last one.

I think I got my top four. Right, if an 8-year-old's late.
Yeah, right, it's not his fault. Unless he's pooping.

Our last one.

I think I got my top four.

We're going to go with...

They were power-ranked in the 20s.

I wouldn't be bragging about that being your top four.

For our last one, we're going to go

Mount Rushmore of worst things to be late to.

A podcast taping after watching a lacrosse movie the night before. That would be a bad one to be late for.
Pretty bad. Pretty bad.
By the way, fate of a sport, that exact movie where we went to the after party debuts on ESPN Plus today. Well, be careful when you watch it.
It might trigger you into getting drunk and missing your job. To stand up for Billy on on this one now it might be like that movie the ring where you see the ring and then you die later if you watch this movie you might be late to work the next day yes yeah so the show that billy entertained clients afterwards is now available to you it might get you so hyped yeah yeah warning this movie makes you want to get drunk yeah so it actually actually was a fantastic documentary.
And if you don't even like lacrosse, it's cool to see how a league is created from scratch. Yes, agreed.
All right, so everyone go watch it. Support our friend Paul Rabel.
All right, last pick. Billy's thinking about what crimes did I almost say? I hope the court people.
Yeah, I hope the people who I go to court. Everyone knows traffic court opens at 11.

Every Tuesday.

The judge spends all morning

looking at actual cases and

meeting with prosecutors.

I was talking about court

in general and then you just decided that because

traffic court opens at 11.

That's what usually people are going to court for.

Our last pick, it would be

late if you were being the getaway driver while your friends were robbing a bank. That's actually a solid pick.
Yeah, that is. That is actually a pretty good pick.
Being late on your period. All right, yeah.
Good one. That's like a distant cousin of the pulling out one.
Yeah. Now, so I had that.
I put that in our list. We went with the pull out instead because I thought about it a little bit.
It's not always bad to be late for your period. If you're trying to get pregnant, it's a great thing.
It might be like the best day of your life. That's true.
Finally did it. It could go either way.
Yeah, it's a real feast or famine. It's like Jim Tomey swinging.
You're either going to strike out or hit a 500-foot home run. Let's see what young male listeners think.
Oh, you think you're going to? 18 to 35. They got a lot of periods.
Yeah, wouldn't pulling out be the guy more relatable? But I think people will, who knows? Okay, let's talk about what we missed. Did everyone else have other things we missed? I had – Jake's – their first book was kind of too similar, but like a work presentation.
Because you can show up late to work sometimes. You can sneak in or kind of get by.
But if you're supposed to be in a meeting or something where you're presenting and you like they're expecting you to speak at.

You'd never want to be late for that.

Yeah.

I had a flag against your team.

Like, that's just the worst.

A late flag.

Yeah.

Or like the graphic being late.

Yeah.

It just fucking kills you when it's like game over flag.

Like if you're a Miami fan in that.

That's still too soon.

Yeah, still too soon. Renewing a passport is bad because then you'll have to change vacation plans um we had uh if you're adam schefter and you're behind in rapaport breaking news on twitter then all his replies are just late late late rap sheet had it first um being late to post uh like a viral video sucks because everyone's like oh dude saw that like i laughed so hard last time i saw i laughed so hard i fell off my dinosaur it's like you're four hours late to it it's fucking worst like i could even sense tonight when we told you that poe got hurt yeah like a little bit of you was like what the fuck i can't believe i'm yeah right it's the worst it's it's the internet has completely warped our brains like a fucking mascot got hurt and your initial like natural reaction is like damn how'd i miss that i saw it yeah i saw it 24 hours later i thought it might as well be next month right right or being like late to a joke yeah yeah because someone makes it before you and then they think you're copying yep um if you're late to a cruise ship that's leaving after a day that they've dropped you off on like a day trip and it's pulling away and you know you're absolutely fucked.
Yep. Late to the train.
Sucks. Yep.
Miss it by a second. I had this one kind of specific, but like the kid who was late to learning how to ride a bike.
That sucks for any kid who, like, was the last kid to learn how to ride a bike. There's always, like, one kid running by them or, like, on the pegs.
It's like, dude, you just got to learn how to ride a bike. We had a practice led by Bill Belichick.
Oh, good one. Good one.
That's why Gray got cut, right? Yeah. Slept in after he scored, what, three, four touchdowns? It was four.
I think it was three against the Colts. He was on Sports Illustrated.
Yep. Yeah.
A drawbridge. Oh, train crossing.
Yeah. A movie.
Yeah. I mean, it's not that, you know, not top four, but I showed up late to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, like 15 minutes late, and I missed the entire flamethrower beginning.
So when it happened at the end, they're like, oh, that was from the beginning. I was like, oh.
You got like 15, 20 minutes of relief. Yeah.
It sucks to be late to a game and have like some cool play happen. Yeah.
Especially when you're like just late and you get to your seats, but the usher's like, oh, you have to wait for a whistle or a timeout or something. Like a goal in playoff hockey or a touchdown, and you're just like, what the fuck? It would suck to be late if you were giving an order to send your tanks to reinforce your troops in western France when an allied invasion is happening.
That would probably be a pretty big mistake if you were to make that one. Shouldn't be late there.
No. That's a fact.
Anything else? That was a good Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore all around.
I feel like we've had some good Mount Rushmores. Yeah, Hank, you weren't as bad as I thought you'd be.
Yeah, you actually, like, maybe just you being by yourself fixed all of your attitude problems. Yeah, you're a lone wolf.
Yeah, I mean, I told you, I'm a new man. I've turned over a new leaf.
It's football season. I'm a sweet dick.
You did a great job. Thanks.
It was a pleasure to be around you. You guys did all right.
No, we beat you. What was your guys' final four again? We're being fake nice to them because we know that we won.
Then we got job interview, your own wedding, flight, periods. Yeah, you guys might win.
Jilly might win. Hank's not, but Jilly might win.
Hank didn't lose lose catastrophically. No, no, no, he's just born.
I fell asleep during his. Who decides who wins? The people.
Oh. Right.
I fell asleep during yours. So you're, yeah, but you're talking about it like, you know, the results are decided already.
They kind of do decide who wins. What? Yeah.
Low key, the poll decides. There's a direct correlation to them saying, they had a really good mount rushmore they'll win and who actually wins should we do this hank show multiple drawings that in honor of the birthday this is the machine no i we did nine on opening day august wow i'm down to do two how old is the machine two i'm down to do two for its birthday yeah for its birthday maybe hank will get one yeah hank have you gotten one i have not oh that's crazy like on your own show wait how old is the machine two years two it's a lot how many picks have we had i think someone dm me like 350 or something wow okay and there's how many balls 350 in there i think they actually said it's just more impressive that hank hasn't gotten it

no don't do that jake do not do that um okay two six nine 27 20 57 i think you should have to keep the same pick for both yeah we'll give hank even a better shot 57 27 26 56 what's your pick hank Two.

I'm rooting for you, Hank.

Thanks.

To not get it right. 27.
26. 56.
What's your pick, Hank? Two.

I'm rooting for you, Hank.

Thanks.

To not get it right.

Fuck.

Eight.

One more for a birthday.

Fifth time.

For the birthday boy.

The power with the 1 in 99 shot.

Yeah, Hank.

Would this be a Mickey Mouse if it's... Oh.

We'll definitely say that, yeah. Obviously.
Yeah. Hank, would this be a Mickey Mouse if it's...
Oh, obviously.

Obviously.

65!

Oh, wait.

No, no.

Oh, we got peach stripes.

Oh, wedgie.

Does it count?

Yeah, it counts.

It's a wedgie, but it counts.

Love you guys.

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I'll take it away.

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Thank you. Welcome to the end of the day.
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