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This is what we go through every single year i was every year

at week three we reach the point where we're like i think i'm ready for football it's i was actually

thinking about it while we were watching it was like man that feeling of hard knocks episode one

is one of the best feelings in the calendar because you're like we want football it's the

first moment of like i know we have the hall of fame game but that first episode is like yes

Let's go. one of the best feelings in the calendar because you're like we want football it's the first moment of like i know we have the hall of fame game but that first episode is like yes we're back and then we get to episode two we're like oh this is awesome and then you get to episode three and you're like okay i want to play i want to play real games yeah i i think we still like the dan campbell show of course so this will be barstool dan talk and i like barstool dan talk when we You focus on like Dan Campbell doing the everyday, the ins and out Dan Campbell show.
Of course. So this will be Barstool Dan talk.
And I like Barstool Dan talk when we focus on like Dan Campbell doing the everyday, the ins and out Dan Campbell things. I would like to see basically the Truman show where it's Dan Campbell, where it's like 24 seven streamed.
I want to see him like cooking an omelet in the morning. I want to see him like taking his tiny dogs out for a walk in the park.
The football stuff is good, but I'm concerned about his vascularity. The veins on Dan Campbell are just...
I think he actually gets more veiny in his neck when he's happier. Like, after that win.
He's like, winning is satisfying. And he looked like he wanted to headbutt through a windowpane.
I think in that moment, because he did... It almost looks like he gets angrier the happier he gets.
he gets yes like he's angry that he's not happy like that more often yeah and he um we had some good dan campbell moments i mean the the the bringing out the pants and and showing how dirty they were and we got to get the last bit of dirt off these pants that was football guy through and through a literal analogy that don't it was a little weird i was just like what's going on here those are just dirty pants i was i was telling jake like i i wanted him to burn the pants yeah i wanted him to like do something cool like shred the pants it gave me the energy you remember back in elementary school when you'd have to like come in for show and tell and you didn't you didn't remember to bring anything yeah and you're like on the bus on the way there and you look in your backpack, shit, what do I... I got these pants.
Yeah, let me get out of the back of my truck these pants that I haven't worn for a really long time. Here, this will be my speech today.
He also had the anti-fragile shirt, which I feel like he could have just had a shirt that said grit on it or toughness, but anti-fragile works too. I think at the start of the season, he had a coaching assistant just run through a thesaurus and just give him all the different synonyms for grit.

And then they finally reached the end where they're like, anti-fragile.

They reached the antonyms part, and then they just slapped anti on it. Yeah, the first iteration of that shirt was just non-fragile.

And they're like, no, let's go anti-fragile.

But this was the setup episode where they got us watching a bunch of players getting their backstory who are eventually going to get cut. The feel bad episode.
You know, we had the offensive lineman, Easy, who who said he hasn't been back to his home country since he came to America. We had I want to just stand up for Easy real quick.
Yeah, because he dealt with something that I realized during this show I would absolutely hate about being a professional athlete, which is every practice, every rep is videotaped. Yeah.
And somebody goes back through it. Yeah.
My specialty when I played sports was just like finding when the coaches weren't looking and then just completely slacking off. Yeah.
And then being like, okay, they're looking now. We got to get back to like doing reps.
And you can't do that with all this new technology. I think technology is ruining the art of slacking off.
Yeah. We had the- Billy just nodded and said, fuck you, Billy.
Yeah. Big time.
We had the running back whose brother has been in jail for the majority of his life. Rodrigo, um, we, Rodrigo is still,

is still talked about because I,

he'll make the team.

It seems like,

but there's a lot.

Oh,

Oh,

uh,

Cleo Pimpleton,

Maxion legend,

electric player feels like they set him up to get cut.

So it was the setup episode.

Yeah.

I want,

I want pimp to make the team just cause they call him pimp.

That's kind of cool.

Yes.

And,

and the highlight of the entire episode was by far and away,

do Staley try losing his voice and trying to yell his way to having his voice back. Yeah.
Where he was like, I know I don't have a voice, but I'm still going to scream with no voice. And hopefully it will mysteriously just come back.
He almost got more intimidating the worse his voice got. He has like a whisper screen.
Like a dude calling calling you motherfucker and you have to like lean in real close to his mouth like you you read the wind coming out of his mouth with your skin more than you actually hear the words yes and then also jamal williams uh when dan campbell was like if you fight you're out and then he just tried to fight the entire colts team which i respect the fuck out of that again to me as somebody that slacks i that and I think, oh, I don't have to practice anymore if I can get them to fight. Right.
And then it's not my fault because they started it. But he did say your evaluation is over if you fight and get kicked out.
So Jamal Williams was like, I'm making the team. I'm on the team.
That doesn't apply to me. Let me try to take on like 17 dudes.
Yeah. Have they, is it me or have they just really not mentioned DeAndre Swift at all this preseason? Well, Billy put him in jail last year.
I was going to say, like, he's my candidate for comeback player of the year after being arrested unjustly by Billy Football for murder. I was just bringing up something I saw.
I said, look at this. People online think he's been arrested.
For murder. For murder.
I do have one sentimental note um i do never get tired of of the shots whenever they show family in the crowd like khalil pimpleton's family watching him and being so proud that was like one of those moments like damn maybe i'm getting soft but these this always rules you know yeah it was like watching them cheer and like live and die with every single play i love it i just love it i love like because it's obviously they're these guys who are going to get cut it's their life's dream to make an nfl roster it's probably not going to happen for them and just their family like i think it was cleo pimpleton's mom being like he's playing right now against the indianapolis colts like that's a cool moment yeah hopefully he does make the team. I feel like they set up where they just showed two drops.
Shout out Tim Kennedy, by the way. Tom Kennedy.
Tom Kennedy. Billy got me thinking Tim Kennedy every time now.
And now I keep going back and forth, switching back and forth. But he quietly had the best game.
The quietest two-touchdown performance that you've ever seen, right? Does that mean he's safe? I think he's safe. Because they wouldn't talk about him if he's – like the guys who are safe, they don't talk about.
So he has to be safe. I'm doing my projected 53-man roster at wide receiver for your Detroit Lions.
I've got Tim Kennedy and Tom Kennedy, both of them, and then Amon Ross St. Brown.
And then that's it. And then they're just going to run the ball.
Yeah. It does suck when they're like, yeah, there's 14 offensive linemen and eight receivers on the roster right now.
It's like, shit. Yeah.
These guys are done. It's also tough to have your name include the word pimple in it because I think football guys at the end of the day, they're when they're making their final decisions they see somebody named pimpleton and another guy named easy and they're like these guys aren't warriors yeah you have to you have to cut them give me rodrigo yes yes who that just keeps confusing the fuck out of me because i just keep thinking rodrigo blankenship is playing linebacker now yeah he would be very bad he would get cut yeah um i also like dan campbell being amazed by the football field yes well that i'm gonna have his back here that was fucking cool the fact that they walked through the woods yeah and then like it was kind of feel the dreams ask on the blue carpet it looked like a giant slip and slide taking you out onto the practice field but he was just i think dan campbell's that way regardless of what field he's on yeah if you just put him on a new football field, he's like a 14-year-old seeing boobs.
He's like, wow, feel the dreams. This is amazing.
This is feel the dreams football version. Incredible.
Yeah. No, he was very excited for it.
Speaking of that, did you see Belichick called the Raiders facilities the Taj Mahal? Really? He loves, similar to PFT, he loves the Raiders facilities. Yeah, I mean, respect.
Listen, the man knows football. He said it's the nicest facilities he's ever been to in his entire career.
Damn, do you think Josh McDaniels is just going there to warm up the seat for Bill Vailachek? Maybe Josh was like, I'll be the coach for one year, and then you come, and then I'll be your OC again? I don't know how much money they'd have to pay Bill to live in Las Vegas. That would be a very funny visual.
I mean, it sounds like he really loves the place. He does.
A lot. The quotes, I'm going to try and pull up some more quotes.
The quotes that were coming out of there were so funny. I like it because he probably is just being earnest, saying that it's incredible, but I always just assume, similar to John Calpapari, when he was talking about his facilities, he's just basically saying, Robert Kraft, pay up.
Like, make me a new facility. All right, so this is the Taj Mahal football facilities.
He it magnificent and outstanding wow wow he really loves it Hank that's that's as excited as Bill Belichick gets yeah he basically fucked the stadium yeah yeah um so yeah Hard Knocks episode three I don't sure yeah we have um I don't even know if they're going to show too many of the cuts I feel like Dan Campbell loves his's going to cry. He's going to cry.
He's probably going to want to cut himself for cutting a football guy. Yeah, he's probably going to, like, punch himself in the face.
I did. Like, oh, I just can't believe I have to cut you.
I hate doing this to you, man. Yeah.
I remember the last couple years because there were COVID years, and we stayed late on Tuesdays for Hard Knocks, and I remember being like, gotta stop doing this and then we watched the first one this year and i was like that one was great yeah no we walked out of the you said it was best season ever that was like the best hard knocks episode i think i've ever watched like well worth it and now we're kind of no yeah we peter out and then we get to the tuesday after labor day and it's like yeah yeah yeah it's over it's over i noticed that he had you know those motivational so true posters on his desk but they were all about just losing yeah he's got a lot of he's got too many reminders of losing and i think that he feeds off of being upset about losing a lot and he's trying to use that to make him better but if i were dan cable i would just have like 50 more signs in my office that talked about like winning and growth. Well, that might be also, that might just be like a permanent piece of furniture in the Detroit facilities.
That might have been left over from Danky. Those are load bearing losing posters.
From Matt Patricia. Yeah, if you take that poster down, the whole building crumbles.
That was in the blueprint of how, when they built the facility, they're like, we're going to need a lot of things about how to deal with adversity yes yes um all right so the other story before we get to hot seat cool throne kevin durant what we all expected is decided he's going to stay in brooklyn um i don't i i did like that he uh the boardroom his company with rich climbing did get a-out. They had the logo on the Brooklyn Nets official release, which was nice.

Because it was like, okay.

They really sat down and decided this.

And they're like, we're going to stay.

You don't have to fire any of these guys, but throw our logo on the official release.

Kevin Durant has agreed to honor his legally binding contract.

Yes.

The craziest part about all of this is the Nets are going to be good. Will they? Yeah.
You think they're going to whomp some people next year? I don't know if they'll whomp, but they were, like, before Kevin Durant got hurt, they were the one seed last year. Kyrie didn't play for basically the entire season.
I think if Kyrie and Kevin Durant, and that's a big if, play, they will be a top, I don't know, what do we call it, three, four, four team in the East? I just feel like the way that this whole thing went down, it's going to wake up a lot of different GMs and owners around the league where it's like, oh, yeah, you don't have to trade somebody just because they ask you to. Now, if Kevin Durant had gotten fat like James Harden, that's really the only power play that players have left.
I don't think he physically can. I don't think he can either, but it's worth a shot.
Besides that, you can't hold in in the NBA. You can't really hold out effectively in the NBA because they'll take your money from you.
I don't know. I think this is one of those course correction things where the pendulum is going to swing back away from player empowerment because it's like, yeah, we gave the players all the power in the world.
And then finally we realized, wait, we don't actually have to bend over for them. And they sign four year every single time that they do this.
And the so we've defended Kevin Durant. We've I've done a swing on Kevin Durant where I have defended him the last, I don't know, a couple a couple years this one seems indefensible like because he's also going online and being like blame KD and all this stuff it's like dude you you kind of did like cause all this yourself whether you whether Kevin Durant if you sit down maybe come on this podcast we like he might have a real reason like maybe it was because they uh you know didn't let Kyrie play in road games last year or they didn't give him an extension.
Whatever it may be, like, there could be reasoning, but all of this drama was Kevin Durant's fault. I actually think the way to get him on this podcast now, I can't believe we didn't think about this earlier, we just got to figure out a way to force him to get traded from the Nets.
Like, if he comes on the show, we can talk our way. We can give you some ammo.
Yeah. We can put words in your mouth and have you say some indefensible things that will definitely burn all the bridges that you have in Brooklyn.
Right. So there's the invite.
We'll figure a way out of town for you. I think part of it might just be he didn't want to play with Ben Simmons.
Maybe that was like they sat down and they're like, listen, Ben Simmons isn't going to play. Don't worry.
Like he's never going to play. I'm just saying like we could help you burn bridges, KD.
Yeah. That's what we do best.
Very easy. Hank, are you relieved? Sad? No, I'm relieved.
I would have obviously been able to talk myself into Kevin Durant. He's a pretty good basketball player.
Great basketball player, but the injuries concerns would have been a lot. It would have been much more like we're all in basically the next year or two is we have to win a championship or it's going to be one of the biggest mistakes ever made.
Now it's like future Celtics. We have like five years.
It's a legitimate concern. Our championship window is more open.
To any team that would bring KD in, it would be a sizable concern that he would then want to blow the entire thing up after a year. Yeah, he'd be unhappy because it's kind of his MO at this point.
He's just an unhappy guy. He's old.
I actually think KD needs to go back to the burners. Coming back from the injuries he's had, people don't come back 100%.
He needs to go back to the burners. I feel like he was more mentally healthy when he was mentally unhealthy.
And he's just, yeah, his Twitter right now, it's tough when he's like, yeah, trying to dunk on people when, again, this kind of was his fault like he he did just a month ago say he wanted the coach and the gm fired and then he's kind of catching an l here because he's staying and i don't think steve kerr or sean marks are fired uh so that's enough steve nash yeah yeah i was about to say like steve nash oh he didn't like steve kerr at the end of the warriors run either it's didn't like Steve. It's going to be very awkward if you're Steve Nash and then Kevin Durant comes back in the building.
You're like, so, water under the bridge? Yeah. What are we going to do here? Are you going to play? Like, you want to be fired? And it's great, too, because, like, they got this settled and Kyrie still exists and Ben Simmons still exists.
Yeah. It's such a ridiculous team when you actually think about it because talent-wise, they should be a championship contender and then you have three guys where you're like, who the fuck knows whether they're going to want to come to work.
Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're a Nets fan, at least you've got the New York Mets.
Yeah. So there's some solace in that.
Take care of it. First place in the division.
They're on a hot streak. Maybe that's what Kevin Durant was doing maybe he was like i want to i want to like team unity like kairi and ben simmons have both taken turns being like i don't really want to play maybe i should just take my turn so we're all together yeah that's smart they're basically forming a uni a mini union against the coach the gm and the ownership he's walking a mile in his teammate's shoes yeah right now they'll have they'll have something to talk about.
Yeah, he was like, hey, listen, Ben and Kyrie, I'm going to take a little heat off you. I'm going to demand that everyone gets fired.
Yeah, Jake. Smart.
Ben Simmons is back on the cool throne because it's going to be scary. It's back in play.
Oh, that's true. It was a nominee for worst sake of the year.
I'm playing with Kyrie and KD. It is going to be scary now.
But now it might be scary again. It might be scary.
I'm a little bit scared. Good for him.
I am scared too. Whether they play or don't play, who's to say? Yeah.
So freezing cold takes got freezing cold taken. We don't know yet.
We don't know yet. If he plays.
Do you think we could put up a bet in the Barstool Sportsbook combined? Games played together. Or just total.
Kevin Durant, Kyrie, and Ben Simmons this year. What would it be set at? I think KD's going to play.
Would it be like 160, I want to say? How many games do you think KD played last year? Like 60? I think he missed a little more time than that. But let's say KD plays.
KD, probably the most reliable, which is very funny given everything that's happened. So let's say he plays 65.
Kyrie's good for what? Maybe 40? I was going to say 35. And then 55 last year for KD.
55, but that was a real injury. Ben Simmons, I'm going 22 games.
I was going to say NA. 22 games.
Over-under. Yeah, so set the over-under.
if we could put up a bet that's like will Ben Simmons, Kyrie and Kevin Durant play over or under 139 games for the Brooklyn Nets? I'm taking the under. I'll be honest.
I'm taking the under big time. Yeah.
I mean, two of them just playing 60 would get you there pretty much. Like if China invades Taiwan, Kyairi probably just yes going off the grid entirely ben simmons who knows if he wears if he wears his uh joey gallo jersey in new york he might not be able to play he might not be able to walk down the street he might be like i'm done um okay let's get to hot seat cool throne one other piece of news yeah an extension for nick saban oh Lifetime? So he's locked up for the next, what, like nine years? How's he not gotten the lifetime? 11.
Well, I think that is his lifetime. He's going to be 79 by the end of it.
Oh, no. Nick Saban's going to live forever.
Nick Saban, he's... Forever.
Even after he dies, they should just have hologram Nick Saban on the sideline coaching that team. Nick Saban, like, he's going to live forever.
I would guarantee that Nick Saban goes past 100 he's short he has like his little like I eat oatmeal pies every morning and watch the weather channel yeah and I win he's a man of routine yeah routines they lend themselves to long life correct because you always hear somebody on the news when they're asked what's your secret it doesn't matter what their actual secret is their secret is that they do it. Yeah, it's like a little old lady in Italy.
She's like, my secret is I eat pasta and drink wine every day. Yeah, she's like, I smoke seven cigarettes a day.
I drink a liter of wine, and then I just eat dessert. That's my trick.
And that's it. So Saban, he's getting like $11 million a year.
I still don't know what the fuck Nick Saban spends $11 million a year on. Money is definitely wasted on Nick Saban.
I think he's probably got some boats. I think he upgrades to nicer boats that he takes out on Memorial Day weekend every year.
And I feel like he has a different... I wouldn't be shocked if Nick Saban has a house in Naples, a house in Miami, a house in a lake in Alabama, maybe a house in West Virginia.
You know what I mean? He's just a house guy. I think he's probably got the nicest house in every single town that his family members live in.
Right. So like his daughter, he has the best house in that town.
Right. If he's got grandkids, he's got the nicest house there.
But that seems like Nick Saban gets paid all this money. He probably just wisely invests in a shitload of real estate.
Yeah. And so he's just.
He probably owns horses. I think he probably has a horse or two.
Maybe. I think football coaches generally just get a horse because other football guys have horses.
Yeah. Yeah.
What are you going to say, Billy? The University of Alabama over his career there has paid him over $100 million. And it's a bargain.
Absolute bargain. I think they would do 10x that for the winning they've had.

Yeah.

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Henry. You want me to go first? Yeah, I want you to go first.
I want you to go first, big boy. Hey, you know what? Why don't you go first, pal? Sure? Yeah.
Go ahead and do it, buddy. Let's go, big guy.
My hot seat's Will Salatouris. Yeah, I know.
Friend of the program of the show. Just won his first tournament.
He had to withdraw from the FedEx Championship. Yeah, he withdrew from thew and then he also had to take himself out of the fedex um he's third in the world right now yep and but no matter what because you withdraw he automatically finishes 30th which is like 300 grand or 500 grand uh purse but if he was to come in you know third he'd win like 18 million.
Yeah, it's tough. It's about a $17 million swing for him, which is hard to see Will go through that.
I mean, $17 million is a shitload of money. I don't pretend to understand how the golf playoff system works.
I just want to know on Sunday how much does each putt cost when they missed on the 18th green. But this is tough.
There's really no spin zoning this one for Will. I said that we should get GoFundMe going.
Maybe we can make up the $18 million for him. I'm nervous that he made a deal with the devil, and the deal with the devil was let me win one.
That's what I'm nervous about. And I bet on him last week to finish top 10 to win.
I mean, I just auto bet him because he's just my guy.

I'm nervous.

I'm nervous because it feels like the timing is.

What is the old Michael Scott?

The timing is.

Fuck.

Line.

Line.

The timing is whelming.

No, he fucking.

God damn it.

All right.

Forget it. Never mind.
No one's going to help me. Hank, what fucking, God damn it.
All right, forget it.

Never mind.

No one's going to help me.

Hank, what's your cool throne?

Gatious.

There we go.

The timing here is nothing short of predominant.

Predominant.

Okay.

The timing is predominant in this case, I would say.

And I'm nervous for Will.

I mean, if you were a golfer and you finished second place in every tournament,

you would probably actually be on aggregate the best golfer of all time. Yes.
Oh, here's a fun little hypothetical I want to throw out there. I was thinking about this.
If you had a superpower that no matter what, every time your golf ball was on the green, you'd make the putt. You won putt everything.
Just guaranteed. Do you think you could get a good enough game to make it to the tour? Easy.
Yeah, I would just putt. I would putt.
I would win the tour. I would tee off with a putter, and I get hole-in-one every time.
No, no, no, that's not the rule. Easy.
You have to be on the green. Your ball has to be on the green, so essentially you're just playing like the hole is the green.
If you get it on the green, the next shot always goes in. You putt for dough in that case.
You still need greens in regulation. Yes.
That's tough. No, but you don't even need greens in regulation.
You just need greens in pass, like one stroke pass regulation. Yeah, but think about it.
If you don't get a green in regulation, you're one putting. It's still at best to par.
Right. You go up and down.
This is my other. It gets you on a par.
My other thought of the hypothetical of if you made every three-point shot you ever took do you think that uh you could you could like they would put you on an nba team yes easily yes absolutely million percent i'd be the best basketball player of all time maybe it'd have to be well you'd get just torched on defense torch you have a three points every time you shoot it yeah maybe it's it you have to shoot it you make every three-point shot without a hand within like a foot of your face so so got you'd miss if they were in your face so yeah so what about like full court heaves like i would get that's a three-point shot yeah but guys would start to would they press me yeah they'd start to press you the book would be out on yeah yeah i would just start sneezing and coughing on them just dare them to get close i the the golf one i don't think i mean i think if you practice long enough you could you do it but right now no we would not here's how i would unravel in that situation because i think i have a good amount of irrational confidence but in this case i feel like um bunkers would really be my downfall yeah because no matter how I would get at everything else, it would still take me like four shots to get out of any bunker. Yes.
Just completely meltdown. Think of how much longer the championship tees are.
Yeah. They're long.
Well, I always play from the black tips. True.
But for those of us who don't shoot 72 at Chennai. Correct.
That's a long time. I play behind the black tips.
I let people, because you can play like as far back as you want, so I go to the back of the tee box when I tee off. All right, Hank, your cool throne.
My cool throne is the Giants fantasy, people that are going to draft Saquon Barkley. He said it's kill mindset now.
It's like, fuck everybody. Fuck everybody.
Saquon Barkley, great quote. I'm sure that won't be a quote that gets turned turned around when it's like that quote and then him going like, you know, 14 rushes for 60 yards.
Also, yeah, wait, 14 rushes for 60 yards. Plus one of those rushes was a 55 yard run.
But that's that's Saquon Barkley. The thing with the fuck everybody mindset, I feel like that can be counterproductive as a running back.
We're on every run. You're trying to fuck everybody.
So like the the art falling correctly in the nfl when you're getting tackled and knowing when to go down is actually a very underrated thing for running back to have to be able to fall without getting injured if you're in fuck everybody mode i feel like that gets you fucked more often yeah saquon barkley too is like maybe it's because i mean he's he's got a cool name he does do cool plays especially at Penn State. But he is one of those guys that everyone at the time knew the draft pick was stupid.
And then it's been stupid. But I still find myself rooting for him.
Well, it's a little unfair to him that he was drafted as a running back that high. Because everyone's just going to find a quarterback that becomes dominant that was taken after he was drafted.
And then they'll compare him why did you why did you draft a running back this high yeah i think he's still he's you're right he does cool plays he's got cool legs he's got like the giant quads he's a cool guy i think aj dylan's kind of jacked his whole swag oh really is like is like mega saquon yeah aj dylan is what everyone thought saquon would be yeah just interesting okay um is that it hank What does AJ Dillon... For hot seat, cool throne what everyone thought Saquon would be.
Yeah. Interesting.
Okay. Is that it, Hank? What does AJ Dillon...
For hot seat, cool throne? What everyone thought Saquon Barkley would do. Like, AJ Dillon really hasn't done that much, right? No.
But he's just talking about the quads. He's just...
Yeah. It's all in light.
He's just thicker. But I guess Saquon Barkley also hasn't done that much.
True. That's a good point.
Yeah. So Saquon...
So they're both. They're the same.
Just one has better legs. Just one's thicker than the other.
Got it. Yes.
Okay. PFT, your hot seat will throw up.
My hot seat is Marcus Mariota. Because I don't know if you guys saw, I put a lot of stock in preseason games.
I watched the Jets-Falcons game last night. I think Desmond Ritter is that guy.
I think he is him. But Mariota's been good, too.
Yeah, but I think Desmond Ritter is actually very good. Now, I'm basing this off of maybe four throws that I saw because I was rewatching The Wire, and I had the preseason game on my iPhone, which is set up on my coffee table.
So I was going back and forth, and I only saw a few throws that Desmond Ritter made. That's the most dangerous thing.
You just see one thing thing and you're like yeah oh yeah no I saw some like as Ron Jaworski would say like NFL throws yeah from Desmond Ritter I think he's I think he's that dude because Mariota I I just I watched the first drive Mariota like he ripped off a huge pass to start and I don't know I'm always a believer in Marcus Mari. He's very similar to Saquon Barkley.
Nice guy. So I think Marcus Mariota, like the role that he was supposed to be in in Vegas, is perfect for him, like a change of pace guy.
Which you don't really see that often with quarterbacks, putting in a change of pace guy. But he does bring something to the table to his legs for sure.
Desmond Ritter, I think he's ready. He is? I think he's NFLfl ready he's very good at cincy i know but like you know he wasn't drafted that high a lot of people doubt in him i think desmond ritter i think i'm ready to say based off watching him one time in the preseason that this is going to be a guy that i will believe in for the next four years i think the falcons don't have their quarterback of the future on the roster right now interesting maybe not maybe not but desmond ritter is kyle pitts had an awesome play i think i think desmond ritter is legit yeah he i mean i think he'll be okay um but yeah there is a danger in watching one highlight and you're like oh shit a million percent it's like watching ohio state in the first game last year i was like bust yeah fuck Fuck this guy.
My cool throne is the Seattle Seahawks because Pete Carroll has spoken to the media regarding the big quarterback battle that's taking place right now. He says that right now they have two number ones.
So he's like, we have an embarrassment of riches between Drew Locke and Geno Smith. And apparently they're both.
It's got to be tough to have an honest comparison between those two because i think they're probably very similar quarterbacks and they're probably the best quarterbacks on that roster yeah but p carroll is like yeah we got two ones so if you have two quarterbacks you don't have one i disagree i think they should so geno smith i think plays pretty well based on recent experiences in like the first half. And then Drew Locke is good in garbage time.
Yeah. So I think they should put Geno Smith in in the first half as a first half specialist.
Drew Locke comes in as the closer and he just gets it like a closer for covering the spread. So Geno buries him a little hole.
Maybe it helps to hit the over in the first half. Then Drew Locke comes in in the second half and brings it to within six and a half points.
How much does it suck to be Jacob Eason? Yeah, pretty bad. I'm here too.
I got two ones. I'm here too, guys.
Oh, and that guy over there. Yeah, so what happens if you have two ones, does that make the other guy a two or does it make it a three like in golf? Two guys tied.
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
Someone needs to ask Pete carroll please yeah someone in the seahawks media ask about yeah tell me about what his sabermetrics really stand for here um all right is that it oh you had another one well i had another but i'll let you keep going all right okay so i had hot seat um is espn and also the future of america because i don't know if you guys saw but the little league world series going on and there was a moment i can't remember which teams i think might have been washington and iowa i can't remember which two teams were playing um and they there was a a pitch that was called a ball and it was most definitely a strike and the uh coach came out to the mound and like tried to settle everyone down and one of the players got caught on mic being like, this is rigged by ESPN. They want this game to go to extra innings.
This is so rigged. And I was just sitting there like, well, one, he could be right, so then ESPN, the gig is up.
They're rigging this. And two, this is like the next wave of Billy footballs.
Our kids are just thinking everything's rigged, and so it made me a little sad that this is how no i like this is this is this is rigged this is the byproduct of the nfl rigged ecosystem right now is like we've got little awls at home that are playing in the little league world series right now and they're like this is rigged either for the money or for the attendance or for the better i don't know what i don't know which but i saw it with my own two eyes this is rigged next generation is here and they're ready to go i would rather have the this is rigged people than the coaches that absolutely try to go viral every time they step over they know that they're mic'd up and they just run out and they tell the kid how much they love them yeah like oh listen isn't it cool like like the kid gets fucking sheldon they come out there and they're like isn't it great that we're at williamsport this is always what you dream it's like shut the fuck up dude you just got you just gave up a grand slam he's like i'm really proud of you and you came out here and you tried really hard i don't know if anybody out there has played little league baseball but my coach would have slapped the baseball cap off my head and been like go sit down on the bench i'm 90 i my my memory has gotten bad uh as i've gotten older but i'm almost positive my little league coach smoked in the dugout. Oh, yeah.
No, I definitely had one that smoked, not Mark Schlereth. Mark Schlereth actually, the only speeches that he would give to us on our Little League team would revolve around the time that the Jaguars beat the Broncos in the playoffs, and he never got over that.
So he'd come out to the mound and be like, listen, it could be a lot worse. You could be on the Broncos and have the best record in football.
And then you play the fucking Jaguars in the first game of the playoff, and they smoke you. All right, get out of there, kid.
Yeah, yeah. There's definitely different Little League coaching now.
And then my cool throne is America. So I guess it's reversed.
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Stephen A. Smith said that he would run for president let's go yes love to see

it was asked by paul feinbaum he said he's had some skeletons in his closet uh that used to be you know prohibitive of the job but he said that if he thought he could win he would run he would run for president i i'll tell you this right now steven a smith you would win yes you would win Who would debate against Stephen A. Smith?

It would be, imagine a Stephen A. Smith rally.

Like, he would also the best part about steven a smith if he ran for president he would literally go to texas and mock the cowboys and be like i don't give a fuck about your votes and still win well that's actually a key to america's heart is if you just make fun of the cat there are more people out there that aren't dallas cowboys correct than are so if you just pick one franchise and zero and i'm people will love you you'd probably even still win texas yeah but this is like the the hiding in in plain sight like everyone's been talking about the rock is going to be present no no steven a smith yeah i would vote for him i'll be honest with you i would vote for him right now quite frankly i want you to be present yes smith imagine skip as his vp oh i mean he would never he would never he would never i I would just, no, he wouldn't. He would never.
I frankly, I want you to be president, Stephen A. Smith.
Imagine Skip as his VP.

He would never.

He would never.

He would never.

I would just, no, he wouldn't.

He would never.

I mean, Skip would probably run against him, which would be a great debate series. I bet you Stephen A.
Smith could just, he would get fucking Greeny to be his VP.

Greeny would be like, oh, that's great.

Or have Greeny be president, but then Stephen A. Smith runs the show behind the scenes.

Like a real Cheney W situation.

Yeah, but either way, Stephen A. Smith.

I mean, just having Stephen A. Smith pronounce the names of foreign leaders.

Vladimir Putin.

He would just go off on everyone.

You make me sick.

What would he say if they made weed illegal again?

Oh, yeah.

If they made it?

Yeah.

No, he'd be happy.

Stay off the Delta 8. Yes.
All right, Billy, your hot seat cools your own. My hot seat is Anthony Joshua.
Anthony Joshua fought Usyk over the weekend, and after the boxing match, 12 rounds, went to a decision, lost. He got outboxed by Usyk, and he kind of went on a rant after the fight.
He threw his belts out of the ring. He himself ran out of the ring then ran back into the ring and hopped on the mic kind of basically stole the spotlight for Usyk to talk about his country and all their struggles recently.
That sucks. Yeah, it was kind of everyone was kind of like, dude, like this isn't your moment.
You lost. Yeah.
Fuck your country. He was talking about all the hardship he's gone uh as a child and stuff whatnot so a lot of people are being like yo dude and this is kind of his second loss to usick uh third loss remember when he lost to um anthony ruiz yeah so it's over i i think him versus wilder would still sell as a yes i would agree i think that might be a better fight to watch than a Tyson Fury-Usyk fight just for the casuals.
But, yeah, hot seat Anthony Joshua. Yeah, yeah.
The end of a boxing career. It's always tough.
Yeah. I'm not saying it's over, but, yeah, that's three losses you just said that have happened, what, somewhat recently.
And then my cool throne is a magic johnson uh magic johnson doesn't have it well uh he basically a week ago a very long time ago there was a parody account that tweeted a fake picture of him donating blood and he's finally gotten around 10 hours ago he tweeted i'm aware of the false story circling the internet, and to be clear, I have never donated blood. Just classic Magic Johnson tweeting right after it happened.
Yeah. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I'm not a medical professional like Billy, but I think he's probably got healthier blood than I do.
Yeah. I think Magic Johnson, like, he doesn't have AIDS.
He doesn't have the HIV virus. It's not at detectable levels.
I would venture to say that he's in, I would rather have his blood than my blood right now. I also love his, I mean, it's a fact because he also, like, he's got vacation blood.
He's just vacationing all the time, all summer. You see the pictures? He does, like, a tweet every day of what he's doing, and it's always just sitting on a yacht and being Magic Johnson.
He's always the coolest thing in the world. Like that's he doesn't even have to be doing anything.
He's just like, yeah, having breakfast. I'm Magic Johnson.
I'm on a yacht. Cool.
Yeah, that was the fact that he had to come out. It was just so obviously fake.
Yeah, right. It's been going around forever, too.
Yeah. Yeah.

So he has his most recent screening says that he remains HIV undetectable to this day.

So he's going to live like a completely full life.

He's going to be on his yacht vacation with Cookie the entire time, hanging out with billionaires, wearing linen all the time, sipping the finest wines in Italy.

I think Magic Johnson is doing OK.

I would take his blood.

Yes, I would, too.

I'd drink his blood.

Same.

Yeah.

Go ahead, Jake.

My hot seat, straws.

Big Cat, you had your day on the act.

We haven't brought it up on this show yet.

Yet, we had a fan of the Subway Series use a hot dog as a straw to drink a beer.

Real men of genius.

A couple things.

One is, obviously, people are like, it was staged new york nico had it staged i don't care i don't care when when if a video is funny and staged it still can be funny and the idea of drinking a beer with this with the hot dog is kind of cool yeah i knew it was staged the second i saw it it's still i've never seen somebody do still an original idea. It was cool.
And I just, a lot of people like throw him in jail. All this.
I thought we lived in America. If you want to drink a beer through a hot dog straw, this is the country for it.
Stephen A. Smith should run on that.
You should be allowed to drink a beer through anything that you want. The internet doesn't matter.
It was one of those internet is so cool for everyone. Like, oh, this guy sucks.
Like, dude, he's enjoying himself. He's not making anyone else do it.
Let him have a time. I don't get how people are framing this as a pre-crime when like shoeies exist.
Right. Yeah.
Drink a beer out of literally anything that you want. It's also like you're at a baseball game.
You're most likely going to be eating a hot dog and drinking a beer. You just take out the middleman.
You can do anything with a hot dog. You can use them as chopsticks.
You can drink a beer out of them. If there's a way to smoke weed out of a hot dog, I say go for that, too.
There definitely is. I'm sure somebody's definitely smoked weed.
Yes. Hank, have you? No.
Let's make a video. I'm not a drug guy.
Okay, there we go. That's our new Billy.
Write that down. TikTok idea.
Smoke weed out of a hot dog. Smoke a giant bowl out of a hot dog.
Might be better out of a brat. The algorithm doesn't like smoking.
Okay. But a brat.
I'm going to say a brat. What about just a video? It doesn't have to go on TikTok.
We can say it's a TikTok. Yeah.
Just put it out everywhere. Be like, check out my new TikTok.
Nobody will know the difference. Yes.
All right. And your cool throne.
A cool throne, Hank. I like this.
Vacations. Yeah.
The latest Tom Brady rumor is that his time away included a vacation to the Bahamas. Ooh.
Good, good. So there's people who are torn on this.
That's where they're filming the Masked Singer? Whether that's appropriate or if it's not appropriate. He could leave in the middle of training camp.
Yeah. I'd say if you're at the top of your game at something like Tom Brady or Hank, you can take a vacation whenever you want.
Like if they lose week one, who are they playing week one? Cowboy Sunday night. That would be very funny.
No, that's not week one. Yeah.
That was last year. No, Sunday night football.
No, that Sunday night football I thought was Rams-Bills. That's Thursday night football.
That's Sunday night football on Thursday night. Yeah Thursday night yeah yeah okay and this one's in Dallas I believe well if he loses that that's the narrative yeah if he loses that then cool thrown Jason Witten and Tony Romo for going on vacation to Cabo before their game yeah and the New York Giants for the boat the boat picture yeah yep okay so I don't know I mean there were a few check marks who tweeted it.
I don't think Schefter or Rappaport did, but.

Well, Tom Brady tweeted out that he was not on The Masked Singer,

but he was wearing a mask.

And then he did like a video of him doing stunts on a motorcycle,

which I'm pretty sure was totally real and not photoshopped or edited at all.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Sell underwear.

Oh, he's selling underwear.

Oh, also, by the way, Hot Seat, we forgot.

It seems like high quality underwear. Oh, he's selling underwear.
Oh, also, by the way, Hot Seat, we forgot. It seems like high quality underwear.
Oh, that's good. I feel like he's an offshore bank account.
Well, yeah, duh. Yeah, no shit.
I mean, wait, you think the guy that's married to a Brazilian supermodel and heavily invested in cryptocurrencies doesn't have an offshore account. Duh.
Million percent offshore.

Tom Brady just has his finance people be like,

just send me what I have.

Just look at it.

He definitely does.

Just look at all the zeros.

Yeah.

How sick that is.

We forgot Hot Seat Bills, that reporter who said,

just curious, have you ever heard the Bills have a female act on the soundtrack during practice?

So cancel the Bills.

Oh, wait, what did they do?

No female singers.

Oh, yeah.

Fuck that.

Yeah.

Can't have that.

Can't have that.

It was the most non-Buffalo Buffalo tweet of all.

Like that guy, he's probably from Buffalo.

He's a Buffalo Bills beat writer.

But kick him out. Yeah.
Get him out of here. Also, hot seat in that case, was it the Broncos? No, the Broncos, they don't have any future on their practice playlist.
For obvious reasons. For obvious reasons.
Very obvious. All I know is that if I'm going to a football practice and they don't have Inya on there, I'm like, this team can't win on Sundays.
Yeah, that's a fact. Okay, let's get to, speaking speaking of the bills sean mcdermott and we this this we interviewed him before this story this salacious story of not having a female act on their soundtrack we would have asked him that but 100 yeah here he is uh sean mcdermott before we do that pete you got a quick word he is brought to you by our great friends over at chevy we know that every team starts the season undefeated we're all undefeated right now for the first month everyone has a shot but one team has already won it all that's right that team is chevy and its star player the silverado i'm taking the silverado 1-1 first overall according to jd power chevy is the most awarded brand for new vehicle quality and chevy trucks has won more new vehicle quality awards than any other brand.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is head coach of the Buffalo Bills, Sean Sean McDermott also coach I don't know if you remember this but you are a previous winner of football guy of the week and you accepted the award at a press conference so it's great to finally have you on it's great to be with you guys as well do you finally remember that at all? Because you won Football Guy of the

Week for passing out to

your team dirt

and sod and grass

and telling everyone they had to defend

the dirt, and then you won it,

and a reporter asked you in the

press conference, you're like, I'm blessed to have won it.

So, it was a nice moment.

Well, I appreciate that, and I appreciate you

guys honoring me in that way.

I'll send some dirt

this year over to you guys so you can

Thank you. So it was a nice moment.
Well, I appreciate that, and I appreciate you guys honoring me in that way. I'll send some dirt this year over to you guys so you can be members of our team as well.
You can defend your dirt. Okay, I like that.
Yeah. Yeah, I always accept soil that's mailed to me.
That's the general policy that I have. A very important question to get started here.
We were talking about you last week. We did a big debate on which coaches we think could kick everybody else's ass in the NFL.
So you were drafted number three overall. It went Dan Campbell, Vrabel, then you.
We still have people in this room right now who think that you should have gone number one because of your experience as a collegiate wrestler. You knowlers are built different you guys are a little bit crazy you're not afraid of contact so have to ask you do you think that you could kick dan campbell's ass uh yes and bravel also throw bravel in there at the same time okay i like that i mean it's good i like the confidence there is a like a just a good policy in life is don't mess with anyone Who wrestled at any level Because you guys are just all psychos Listen in the wrestling community We don't look at ourselves as Psychos or crazy guys But outside Outsiders definitely look at Wrestlers and Think that they kind of march to the beat of their own drum and maybe that's true you know because that mindset is like hey walking down the street you feel like you can kick anyone's anyone's tail yeah yeah i could see it in your eyes actually like i when you when you just said walking down the street you were looking off in the distance like you were visualizing yeah like pinning some random person who started stuff.
So years ago, I had a debate years ago when I was in Philadelphia with the Eagles and our trainer at the time, he's now the trainer in Kansas City, we were around the lunch table and he said, hey, would you take the best wrestler in the world over the best boxer in the world? obviously when i came into the conversation was a little bit late and obviously the table was unanimously for sure the best boxer and i can just tell you if you pull 10 wrestlers they're going to tell you you take the best wrestler over the best boxer so it's debatable i know but us wrestlers stick together yes yes that's for sure so has there been any thought that's crossed your mind about getting Gable Stiefson to play defensive tackle for you maybe you could you could work with him Olympic gold medalist be like you know I could I could turn you into the next Aaron Donald that's right so we uh I asked I asked Brandon being our GM uh to look into it honestly a couple a couple years ago when he really surfaced and was more than that. But I thought maybe, yeah, a defensive tackle, maybe a tight end.
I mean, unreal athlete, right? And it's amazing what he's been able to accomplish. So I have a question about last season.
Obviously, we know the game that, you know, everyone watched one of the greatest games, the playoff games to watch with the Chiefs. But I had a question about a season obviously we know the the game that you know everyone watched one of the greatest games to playoff games to watch with the Chiefs but I had a question about a few weeks earlier we went to the game in Buffalo uh against the Patriots the Monday night game and when we were leaving we were listening to the radio and it was full-on panic it was Sean McDermott just got out coached by Belichick he's playing chess you know the Bills are playing checkers.
All this stuff. Sky is falling.
And it felt like that for a moment. What did you do after that game and to close out the season? Because you also had the weird Jaguars game to kind of get everyone back on track.
Because as fans, we always freak out in the moment. And it feels like football coaches' ability to keep everyone steady, even through these bad bad losses is what makes a great football coach yeah every year is a journey um i you know i'll start off with that patriots uh game that you mentioned coach belichick maybe we all know he's he's going to go down and history is one of the best coach of all time and a lot of respect for him and what he's done over the years uh you know, I think really our team got our focus back and got it where it needed to be because we were going a little bit up and down through the course of the season and a little bit inconsistent, as you mentioned.
But I just felt like I think it was the second Patriots game where we were down some players. We really got our focus where it needed to be and played our best football down the stretch there and on into the playoffs.
Yeah, there were a lot of takes that came out after that Patriots Monday night game. Like, oh, Buffalo, you need a dome.
You can't be playing in these elements up there. I love that football.
We were there. We were gritting it out.
I mean, I think we took our shirts off at that game. We were, you know, just – we were brave.
We were in a suite, so it was nice. It was kind of hot.
We took it off because it was too hot. I was sweating a little bit.
But, you know, that same thing. You know, you like being in the elements outdoors like that.
Do you think – like, is there any world that you think that Buffalo would ever get an indoor stadium or would you want a dome? No, never. This is Buffalo, right? And this is what part of what makes us unique.
I mean, it's the best place to live. Some people say, okay, I can see why you live here in the summer, but we love it year round.
It makes us who we are. And I didn't realize it at the time coming from Philadelphia.
I was raised outside of Philadelphia.

Just the are and I didn't realize it at the time coming from Philadelphia I was you know raised outside of Philadelphia and you know just the fit for a head coach and his family is how important it is and the type of community you go into I go for jogs around this around the stadium area early morning sometimes and people are up early they're They're out there going to work early, packing their lunches. And I just feel like that really fits me, fits my family, and how we want to raise our kids the right way.
Yeah, we love Buffalo. Every time we go visit, we absolutely love it.
Another thing we love about Buffalo, we love Josh Allen. We've, we've been Josh Allen guys before the bills even drafted him.

Uh, we have a little joke going though, that when Josh, there are certain times in a game that Josh, he like, we, we call it the mash all the buttons.

Like you're playing a video game.

He just mashes all the buttons and like, we'll spin and run and like, then just throw

it somewhere.

Do you ever get mad at him for that?

Or you're like, this is part of his greatness because a lot times, the mash all the buttons play works out in your favor. Yeah, I used to do that on Nintendo back in the day on Tecmo Bowl, where you just kind of hit all the buttons and maybe Waterpate would spin and could never tackle them.
So that's what I tell Josh to do is we're kind of struggling. You know, like last year, as you said, we're kind of going up and down.
I said, hey, Josh, just start mashing all the buttons. Yeah.
And good things will happen. Right.
That's our that's our that's my favorite offensive advice to Josh. That's some high level coaching.
I'm glad that you're on the same thing. Yes.
Yes. Hit the turbo button, Josh.
You still got some turbo left. Yeah.
That's it. Yeah.
No, he's he's very fun to watch. The only concern I have about Josh Allen is every year it seems like he keeps the visor on later and later.
And no quarterback that's ever worn a visor has won a Super Bowl. So I keep thinking like, okay, if you start wearing this during the regular season, if you think that you look really cool during training camp and you let it carry over into the regular season, that's bad news.
So my other high-level piece of coaching advice would be just keep the visor off him in the regular season games. Yeah, that's hard, you know, because I think he looks good in it.
And I know he likes to look good. Tall, dark, and handsome.
It's really not that much different than I am that way. Tall, dark, and handsome.
Short, bald, and whatever that goes. But, no, he's a heck of a player, as you guys know.
That's really why we drafted him, because you guys liked him. We kind of did our research.
The website, yeah. Yeah, it would be a good thing for us here.
So, no, he's done a great job it's fun to watch him he's he's really grown every year you know on the field off the field great great teammate uh the guys love him and uh and then and then what he does in our community with with the outreach uh initiatives he he does is uh is outstanding we talk about really just being a part of something bigger. He's connected with the fan base tremendously here.
Yeah, he's one of those guys just easy to root for. Just one of those guys you find yourself gravitating towards.
I had a question about your beginning, and you're part of Andy Reid's coaching tree. What was it about Andy when you were with the Eagles early on where like what what did he do to help you guys and teach you guys and have all these guys go from Andy's program to to going on and being you know you have Harbaugh Ron Rivera you Doug Peterson Matt Nagy all these guys have had success the league.
What was it that Andy specifically was able to instill in guys?

Yeah, Andy's been a great mentor to me and to many of us. The names that you mentioned and many more that have gone on to become head coaches or coordinators in the league.
it was just you you know, being around Andy was really being, to me, around kind of a Harvard approach to football at an early age for me. He just – he was ahead of his time from, you know, really leaning on the passing game years and years ago to win.
And his blueprint for success and his plan, not only just his vision but his day-to-day plan, I think we all learned a lot from that and how detailed he was and his plan and how he was then also able to pivot and adjust. I mean, there was times where, yes, we had good seasons right from the start, but also where things got off to a little bit of a rocky start and he was able to pivot and keep the trade on the tracks.
The game that you had against, and Big Cat alluded to it earlier, we have to talk a little bit about it. Maybe one of the best games to watch of all time.
It was exhilarating. Obviously, we're rooting for the Bills in that one.
It didn't work out the way that we wanted to, but still just a great ending to a great football game um i noticed that you didn't record a podcast afterwards so you were doing your podcast and you just didn't you didn't give a wrap-up of that one um from our perspective as as broadcasters those are the ones that get the huge amounts of downloads the ones when you're in just abject misery afterwards so if you want to get numbers up, you're going to want to put that podcast recapping that game out.

But from your perspective as a coach,

is it a game where you go back and you watch the tape

and you're like, okay, I'm going to learn from how it ended?

Or is it a game where you're just like,

I never want to look at this ever again?

Yeah, it's a little bit of both, I'd say.

I mean, it was – and while you're going through it, you don't realize, I mean, you're in the moment, right? You don't realize, like so many people text me after the game, what a classic game, fun to watch, all that type of stuff. You don't realize that as you're in the game because you're so dialed into the moment and trying to execute and do your job.

Obviously, I didn't get it done at the end of the day.

A lot of sleepless nights after that, but also a lot of things that I've learned from

that.

I think it's going to help us and carry us as we move forward.

The experience we got from that game, that experience, I think will benefit us as we move forward. I mean, the experience we got from that game, that experience, I think will benefit us as we move forward.
Listen, Buffalo is Buffalo for a reason, man. We're strong, and we come together, and we're looking forward to this season.
That was a heck of a game, and one that I'll remember forever in terms of the high highs and also, obviously, the way it finished. And so I think that life is a journey, and sometimes things like that happen, and you've got to pull yourself back up and get yourself ready to go.
And at the end of the day, I want to strong prevail, and that's what wrestlers do. Yeah, yeah, that's a fact.
It was a heartbreaking way for the Bills to lose. Do you go into the detail of, like, I should have just called a different defense here or there? Because I know, obviously, everyone makes a lot about Mahomes and how he scored whatever it was, 19 seconds.
Was there one thing where you look at and you're like, I kind of screwed that one up? Well, the results are results. So at the end of the day, I could have done a better job.
But, yeah, you go back and break it down. Let's start where things started to get a little sideways there and evaluate every last inch of that thing so that we're better.
I'm better as a coach and we're better as a staff and we're a better football team because of it. That's got to be – that would be so painful.
I would not want to go and have to like, you know, just be like, all right, I have to do all this different. I have to watch it over and over.
I have one bone to pick with you. And, you know, I don't know how you're going to answer this, but you robbed us of an all-time moment when Nathan Peterman had five interceptions in the first half and you pulled him?

Why?

Why did you do that?

We were having so much fun on Twitter that day.

And no offense to Nathan Peterman.

You said afterwards, even in the fact he made some pretty good throws when he wasn't throwing

it to the other team.

Why'd you rob us of that moment?

You guys were beautiful, man.

I love how you say it with a straight face, too.

You both sit there. Big Cat's saying it with a straight face, too.
You both sit there.

Big Cat's saying it with a straight face. You guys are both sitting there straight faced.
Yeah, I just felt like we would have this opportunity to connect on it, and you'd get a lot more viewers, as was mentioned earlier, four years later. So I'm here to help you in your business, and that's what we do.
I had to go to the highest level of coaching, as I mentioned, school to know at some point enough's enough. I love Nathan Peterman though.
I saw him the other night on television, you know, we, we had some moments that first year in 2017. Uh, but the cool part about it is we go and make the playoffs.
Right. And it hadn't been done at 16, 17 years there.
And that team was, I'll also always remember that team, how hard the guys fought. Uh, and those you learn from, too, as a coach, right? And that was a long ride home from L.A.
at the time. And, man, those are some lonely moments, you know, as a coach, where you're always trying to do the best you can for your team and it doesn't always work out.
But, yeah, you learn from them, and it only makes you stronger moving forward so but i'm glad i could help you guys uh at least in part uh so next time we'll just get a buzzer you know they have these channels on my headset i think every time i get my headset there's a new new button on there so i'll just put i'll just put you know you know you guys on there and we'll just have a button where you just can chime in and i can I can just dial into you, and you can tell me what you want me to do. Yeah, it's like we're going for a record here, Coach.
Could you have a button where I could just dial in and be like run the vertical route to the fullback play again? I love that one. Yeah, we can do that.
Whatever you guys want, I'll just put another button on there. And if I'm not doing – like, we can just do a shock therapy.
Like, if I'm not doing something you want me to do, just – Yeah. You do have a – I start twitching.
You did have a great answer because that 2017 Bills team did make the playoffs. Like, if you said, hey, there's a team that had a game where we threw five interceptions in one half and still made the playoffs for the first time in 16 years, that's insane resiliency.
And so you're right. Like, that team and everyone remembers the day that you guys made the playoffs and how exciting it was.
So, yeah, the playoff game was – what was it, 7-0? Was that one of the most boring – I think it was the exact opposite of the Chiefs-Bills game. I feel like it was like 9-7, something like that.
I mean, we had some chances to win the game, and it was a good defensive game. I think Jacksonville went on to then beat Pittsburgh the next round.
Pittsburgh had a great team also. Yeah, that was Blake Bortles.
Yeah, 10-3. 10-3, I just looked it up.
I remember being like, oof, this one's tough. Yeah, I think they put you on the Saturday game.
You've got a great player. You've got a great rookie this year, Matt Areza, the punter.
And he made all these headlines because he kicked the ball. I think he had like an 82-yard punt in the preseason game.
Do you have any plans to use him as a weapon? Like if you have – you've got a guy that can kick the ball to the moon and back. I'd like to see a third down punt make its way back to the NFL.
Like if you're pinned deep on your 10, just like unleash the cannon and he'll pin them like inside the 10-yard line. Yeah.
We put that in this week. We may use it against the Broncos this weekend in our second preseason game.
Yeah, I think that ball, that punt is still going right now. So he's now – him and Josh are the two favorites of the local fan base here at Buffalo, hit an 82-yard punt, right? No, he's off to a good start.
He's a great kid.

And he could be a weapon for us, right?

I think, what is he, the punt god?

What do they call him?

The punt god, right?

Yeah, the punt god.

You know what we should do sometime?

See who can get the ball further down the field. Josh Allen throwing it or Matt Areza punting it.
Has Josh ever told you, like, what – do you know his number? Do you have a number in your mind for a Hail Mary? Probably like 110. I think he told me he can throw a 110.
But it's got to be – I don't know if it's specifically come up before

where you guys are at the end of a half Hail Mary,

but, like, it has to be, what, at least 65, right?

You know what's crazy is so we start our practice and we'll do some –

instead of stretching, everyone kind of stretches first.

We'll do some situational stuff first.

And Josh isn't even really that loose, and he'll just unleash one down the field. And right before he does, I'm like, hey, just in my mind, I'm saying, hey, easy here, easy.
Don't throw your arm out. He's just – and there it goes.
I mean, he's got a cannon. Yeah.
It is insane how far he can throw it. You were teammates with teammates with mike tomlin in college correct correct yeah was he did he have weird sayings back then because he's he's good for like three or four times a year where he has a quote that everyone's like what did that mean dude that's that's it and the eyes he's got the eye movement yes yes yes yeah he's got that, he's got that down.
He's, he's definitely, he's always,

he's got that down.

He's definitely – he's always been a wordsmith, right? He uses great phrases. So we used to be at William & Mary, and he would – he was a captain when I was a freshman, I believe he was.
So he'd stand in the middle of the circle, Dan, and talk to the team team and he always had just a great way with his words yeah and communicating what he wanted to get communicated so um yeah i watch him i watch his press conferences sometimes and uh i'm in all of the words that he uses i guess but that's the value of employment in our education i guess yeah that's a fact that's a fact That's a fact. Yeah, what did he say? Like, we don't want hostages, we want volunteers? Yeah, something like that.
Yeah. I think he must really sit in his office or lay in bed at night and just think about these phrases he's going to use because they don't come to me that quick.
Yeah. He's definitely got a word of the day calendar, I think, is on his desk.
Word of the day. Are you a fan of Bill Burr? Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, you do look a lot like him.
Oh, you know what? I'll tell you what. I was telling my wife, so this new Top Gun movie came out this summer, right? And my kids are old enough to watch it, but they're young enough that they weren't aware of the first, the original Top Gun.
And so we're going through it and I'm trying to describe Tom Cruise and how all the, you know, the ladies love him and, and why he's, you know, tall, dark and handsome and this and that. I share with my kids, I said, hey, there's a lot of people that tell me I look like Tom Cruise.
And they didn't agree at all. And I'm kind of surprised by that.
But yeah, I've heard those comparisons. So he's a good looking guy.
Yeah, he is. He is.
He absolutely is. Very successful guy.
No, we, we like Bill on this show a lot. Um, and I have noticed that there are a lot of pictures of you on the sidelines.
It goes viral a couple of times a year where somebody like, oh, holy shit, Bill Burr's coaching the bills. That's crazy.
Um, but yeah, I don't really have a question about it. It's just more a statement of fact that you look like him.
Yeah. I've heard that before.
I, I appreciate me. Yeah.
All right. So, Coach, I had one last question.
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Okay. So this year, going into it, now we're big Josh Allen guys.
We're honorary members of Bills Mafia. I'm not going to go as far as, you know, be like, oh, we're huge Bills.
Like, we're honorary members. We want Buffalo.
We love Buffalo. We love the city.
Are you a little worried? Like, how do you deal with the expectations? Because you guys are – I think you might be favorites to win it all. I don't – like, everyone's talking about the Bills.
This is a year. How do you go in and reset all that? Because it does feel like the entire media and everyone is picking the Bills and hyping you guys up.
So you tell us, because we'll be your mouthpiece. We will diminish you guys and put you guys down as much as you want us to to help kind of tamper or damper, sorry, all the media yeah can you do that can you just uh tell everybody we stink uh we're not going to be any good no no it's this is uh you know we've we've now going into we've been here five going year six now so i think it's what you try do.
You try and build a program from the ground up and get it to where, you know, you're respected in the league and respected, you know, on the field. And here we are, and I think it's great for our fans that have, you know, we're around in particular in the early 90s when this team was, you know was in those Super Bowls with Coach Levy and Jim Kelly and Thurman and all those guys.
So now it's back and it's taken a lot of work. But we're excited about the season.
And I would say, too, that when you're trying to do things right, you're trying to work to a standard you know new expectations if you will don't really don't really come into play because those expectations we all we've always had for ourselves and you know whether it's on the field or off the field you know we've always tried to do things a certain way so uh why should that change now really that was the way we look at it so we love it we love the excitement that's in our community because of it and around Bills Mafia. So I think we just embraced it.
And also our players learned from last season, you know, when expectations were increasing at that point as well. So the last couple of years have really helped in that regard.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Our producer Hank is a natural Bills hater because he's from New England.
So we'll just give him more of a platform. Yeah.
And to expand on his Bills hatred. That way it's not all rat poison for you guys.
Yeah. As Nick Saban would say, we're giving you some rat shit too.
Yes. Yes.
Rat poison. Yeah.
I've heard that from Coach Saban before as well. I think that's a good term, rat poison.
Yeah, you guys are getting a lot of rat poison. There are a lot of people in the national media that are saying, okay, you guys just hand them the Super Bowl, and they're forgetting that it's very, very difficult to get there.
You guys are definitely capable of it, but it is, to a certain degree, rat poison. Yeah.
It is. I mean, you see, I think that's another thing that I learned from Coach Reed is just trying to stay even ke know, stay even-keeled and be consistent in your approach.
And I think that's what serves people well in the end, is just keeping your team on the tracks. And there's going to be a journey like it is every year.
Very few teams, as we know, have clean seasons, so to speak. So we're excited for the journey, though.
We've got a group of players in the locker room that are, you know, focused, and we've had a great camp to this point. The guys have worked hard.
There's going to be adversity. We know that.
There's going to be an inevitable gap in there between where we are and where we're trying to get to, and that's where we'll be tested, and that's something we've got to overcome and handle it the right way. Yeah.
All right, well, yeah. I mean, if you get to the Super Bowl, we're going to fly out Ed and Alicia from Wingnuts.
I don't know if you've had Wingnuts before. Best wings in Buffalo.
Go there, and you'll get even more street cred in Buffalo because it's – Yeah, I love it. You just did Tomlin's eyes right there.
Yeah. Listen, we think about wingnuts.
I think about wingnuts probably four times a week. Yeah, I woke up the other day and I was just thinking about those wings.
We had a legitimate conversation about just being like let's just move to Buffalo so we can hit wingnuts all the time. Like, fuck it.
There you go. You can move into my house.
Just move into my house. We'll call plays for you i have two kids so is that okay like i that that might be a problem okay cool yeah all right no problem how old are they three and one you can nanny them for me while i go to wing nuts nothing i nothing i'd rather do is wake up in the middle of the night again uh with those with those young kids yeah one year old yeah yeah great well well yeah i'll just i'll have my one-year-old like she's teething right now i'll just have it you know i'll get her a wingnuts chicken bone perfect yeah that's perfect yeah all right but you got to check out wingnuts my dog yeah yeah check out wingnuts i'm telling you it's you, it's our favorite place in the world.

Ed and Alicia are like true Buffalo through and through. Love it.
Yeah. We'll do that.
Coach, thank you again. We appreciate it.
We're rooting for you guys. Thanks for coming on, and hopefully we see you soon in person.
Just one question. You know, the whole time we got this bench press sit behind you guys.
Oh, yeah. just in between work here you just kind of

get better to it One question. You know, the whole time we got this bench press sit behind you guys.
Oh, yeah.

Just in between work here, you just kind of get it setter to it?

I've been trying to get our former intern to get his bench press numbers up to match mine, so it's been a long road.

But we put in these reps after every interview,

so we're about to get him on there and try to get him up to 275.

I love it.

We've got a guy upstairs in our analytics department

that's been working on his bench press also. I think that's a good move.
I'll just move one of those racks into his office. Yeah, there you go.
You can't avoid it when it's sitting right next to you. Wait, do you really want your analytics guy? Do you want a stat nerd to also be strong? I'm trying to get him on the wrestling manifesto, so I've got to work on his frame first.
Okay. If it were me, I would want my nerds to look like nerds.
Although, wouldn't that be a competitive, like a new different competitive edge like Moneyball? We have the strongest nerds in the world. Strong nerds.
There you go. That's a good tagline.
All right, Coach. Thanks so much again.
Good luck this year. See you, Coach.
All right. Thanks, guys.
Appreciate it. Take care.
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Okay, Mount Rushmore time. I cannot believe we've never done this Mount Rushmore.
We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of leftovers. I mean, there's no way.
We looked. Yeah.
We looked. We double verified.
We double verified. We looked.
Wait, is that like double sportsmanship? Yeah. We double verified.
We both checked. Yeah.
Put two condoms on. But if we didn't do it, we'll feel extra dumb.
Yeah. Well, you.
You total checked. But you're the fact checker.
It's your name. Wait, Jake.
So you searched part of my take. Leftovers.
Part of my take leftover from both of you leftovers. Mount Rushmore.
Rushmore of any foods, too. You guys ever like to call them Tovers? Sometimes, like, for a quick laugh, I call it that.

I don't think we would have named it. It gets a raucous applause.

There might be micro tears in our verification from friction.

What?

All right, so Mount Rushmore of leftovers.

We won on Monday.

Congrats.

Good job.

I just searched for myself and leftovers. I.
Good job. I just searched.

I just searched for myself and leftovers.

I replied to some, I've got leftovers.

All right.

Your mom left all her bras over in my room.

Nice.

That's just a quick reply that I had.

Got him.

So yeah, the closest to this was hangover foods on August 28, 2017.

Yeah.

Hangover foods, but that's different.

That's different.

We're talking leftovers.

We're talking over the night in the refrigerator or not, depending on what you're going to

I'm going to go ahead and get it. 2017.
Yeah. Hangover foods, but that's different.
That's different. We're talking leftovers.
We're talking over the night in the refrigerator or not

depending on what you're going to pick

leftovers.

We have the first pick.

We'll go first.

We'll let Jilly go

second. We'll let Team Hank go third.

The first pick is the easiest

pick in the entire history of Mount Rushmore.

Chinese food. Number one.
Simple. Oh, are you kidding me, Hank? Don't even try.
Not all of it keeps. Chinese food.
1-1. Easy.
Easy. Easy.
Sometimes I don't even reheat it. It's so good.
Just eat it cold, like some lo mein, some cold lo mein.

A little beef and broccoli when it all gets in the sauce.

You just, you know,

do a little, oh.

General Tso's chicken.

Rice, fried rice.

Get some of that wonton soup.

Oh, so good.

All right.

Team Jilly.

Have at it.

Which one are you going to?

Oh.

Sometimes I have leftover Chinese food

like later on that same night.

Yeah.

Yes.

Just a couple hours later.

That counts as leftovers.

Yep.

You can do that later.

Yeah.

Thank you. sometimes I have leftover Chinese food like later on that same night just a couple hours later that counts as leftovers pizza cold pizza and a tin foil you don't need to heat it up take the cheese off I don't think when it's cold you could even take it off I feel like's good.
No, it does retain its integrity. Its structural integrity a little bit nicer when it's cold.
Yes. Cold pizza.
Good pick. How was the OG first take? Yeah.
Yeah. Yep.
Dana Jacobson. And what's his name? That other guy.
The white guy who looks like all the other ones. The white guy with the dark hair that wore a suit on ESPN.
Reese Davis. Nope.
Nope. Carl Ravitch.

Nope.

Our one-one is beers.

Okay.

So leftover beers that you leave out?

No, like, you know, you maybe have some people over,

and they leave over like five or six beers.

They're in their fridge the next day.

You wake up, have some leftover beers. You drink beer for breakfast?

So it's already opened? We also had that pick, but you could have gotten that way later. Oh.
Really? Because did you get it later? No, but you got it way later. There's a much more obvious third pick.
How many Mount Rushmore's have you won this year, Billy? I think Billy's right. How many have you won? At least quadruple to probably seven-tuple as many as you.
We won't win this one. Like we won't win this argument.
We won this Mount Rushmore. Okay.
All right, beer. Good pick, Hank.
Thanks. Alcoholic.
Our second one is going to be Chili. Oh, that's a good pick, too.

I had chili, yeah.

Billy, can you draft for any quick Mel Kuyper over here?

I think chili's one of those things where the flavors get stronger the second day.

I think it's a very strong pick.

Billy?

Have you ever made chili?

Yeah.

Good question, Billy. Yeah.
Okay, cool. Great.
have you ever made chili yeah okay good for you yeah okay cool great we've all made chili all right your guys next pick who knows what that was i'm just so surprised this is this has not been picked yet okay just thanksgiving leftovers just all of them just the entire meal all chinese food okay yeah. Yeah.
I was just asking. I didn't know if there was anything specific.
People survive from Thursday to Sunday of whatever Thanksgiving weekend is off of Thanksgiving. Have you ever made Thanksgiving food, Billy? No.
That's a no. So I don't really have a follow-up.
He can't even vocalize the no for the people who are listening. He's just shaking his head because he knows he was about to do a Billy White lie and he's reformed.
I don't really have a follow up or a point I was trying to make with that. I was just curious what your point to Hank was when you're asking him if he's made Chili.
Yes. I don't know.
I feel like Chili's not something like. So whatever aspersions you were casting on Hank in that moment are now being cast upon yourself.
I don't know. I have these set of leftovers in my brain that I will not reveal, and some of these are just not vibing with it.
Okay. I thought this was a pretty easy Mount Rushmore.
Yeah. No, it is.
There's a lot of good choices out there. Before we get our next pick, PFT.
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I love the loaded fries, by the way. So good.
Okay. Delicious.
Our actual pick for our – is there a second one? Yeah, what do you – I think that we go with the one that I sent you in all caps. Yeah, but then that also takes us away.
Can we pick also – Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're getting at pasta with meat sauce lasagna lasagna yeah lasagna or any sort of pasta carbonara yep or pasta with red sauce and meat is fantastic and leftover here's here's a little fun fact for everyone as a nutritionist uh pasta cold, cold pasta has no carbs.
So that's just a fact for everyone out there. No carbs, no calories, cold pasta.
You can, whenever you eat cold pasta the next day, you could just eat so much of it. Yeah.
And it just goes right down. I'm also going to say that mac and cheese counts under this.
Yep. Pasta.
Yeah. And sauce.
Yeah. So don't even try it.
It's a good pick. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you.
There's like the little like drops of water in the

you know what I'm talking about? It's actually not gross

but it seems like a gross idea. Pasta

with meat sauce in a

Tupperware container the next day

you can fucking house that.

It gets fresher. Yeah.
I brought a big

old Tupperware of spaghetti bolognese

in the other day. It's actually one of those

foods that like yes yes, I obviously

like it hot, but I kind of sometimes

like it as a leftover more.

A leftover cold is great, but also if you heat

it up in the microwave,

you would usually heat it up just a little bit too much.

And extremely hot leftover pasta

is also delicious. Yes.
The oil.

Alright, PFT, we have another

pick. I think we either go

The one I... The problem is, they might push back on one of them.
Okay. Oh, okay.
I like yours. Go do that.
Do that. And then we can save one of those for the last pick because no one's going to get it because Hank's done.
Should I go with the first one or the second one that I sent you? They're both in the same family. Second one.
Okay. Second one.
Pie. Yeah.
Breakfast pie. So good.
Leftover. Oh, you know what's really good? Another one that has like half the calories.
Exactly. Blueberry pie.
Apple pie. Next day.
Pumpkin pie. Just a quick bite of it.
Pecan pie for breakfast. For breakfast.
Oh, so good. Great way to start your day.
You get that sugar rush. I'd also like to make a plea to the board here.
I think cobblers should be included in that. They're kind of pies.
I think that they're... It's like a deconstructed pie.
Yeah, right. They're so good.
Blueberry peach cobbler. Oh, so good.
Great pick, us. Great pick, us.
Good pick. Thank you.
Thanks, Jake. Hank, anything from you? Hank looks very salty right now.
Anything from you? No? No. I look great.
I'm happy. You guys like that pick? I'm a sweet dick.
I saw Max like nod furiously when I was like pasta, no carbs. I mean, yeah, Max is team.
Yeah, I mean, I'm al dente de lente. I was upset that we didn't go pasta.
Oh, okay. Is that your nickname for real? That's actually a Bubba original.
I like that. Delente.
You've got a lot of nicknames already. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. One Rep Max, HBO Max.
Yeah. You perverted or Italian? Both.
Three homers for Hofstra that one year max. Yep, that is true.
Okay. Our pick, we're going to stay in that family.
We're going to go with cake. Oh, we were going to go cake or pie.
Birthday cake the next day. Yeah.
Like, you know, at a big birthday party, you order a cake that's too big. And public cake, people in Florida, you know what I'm talking about.
It's amazing. This will be an important part of the draft because we were literally deciding between cake and pie.
I give the slight nudge to pie. Yeah, no shit because you picked it.
Jesus Christ. I mean, what were you going to say? I give the slight nudge to cake.
I was going to explain it. Forget it.
Let's just do our picks and get out of here. We all know that Jake loves eating cake.
That's my name. Well, yeah.
We were in between this pick and this pick. I was going to explain why, but forget it.
Let's just keep going. But like a cake...
Yeah. I understand.
We were going to debate cake and pie we're debating though i love cake i love pie i like we were we decided between the two and i was gonna talk about it you can between the two where it went pie cake so that's a moment in history where you can debate back and forth cake and pie but that's not what hank wants to do so let's keep no i just when does a pie stop being a pie and start cake? I think the crust has a lot to do with it. So if there's...
I would say the cheesecake is a pie. Yeah.
I think a cake is more tempting because it's staring you in the face. A pie, you can't really tell that it's been eaten into unless you were standing on top of it.
You know what I mean? Are you talking about butts or actual cakes here? The desserts. I know you like both.
You're talking about the structure of it. Like if a cake was there, I could see that there's leftovers.
If a tin of pie is standing there, I wouldn't know. So are we allowed to do this, Hank? Because I have a retort.
Yes, please. The reason why I thought pie is because when you breakfast, cake for breakfast, it's a little heavy.
Whereas like an apple pie or a blueberry pie, that almost feels like a breakfast food. It's not that dissimilar from a croissant yeah or some sort of pastry or danish a fancy french pastry are you also taking meat pies yes okay we didn't want it but we'll take it you just offered it to me yeah yes everybody loves jake everybody loves cake yeah oh thank you Come on.
Get on with it. Just take Memes' first pick.
The Kardashians. Yep.
That's... Do you want Memes' first pick? That's good.
What the fuck? I respect it. What is that? Well, because they've been run through.
Yeah. Okay Yeah.
Okay. Go with your pick.
Confusing sloppy seconds and leftovers here. Yeah.
I don't, you know, PFT wants memes. He's got them.
And then for our last one, we will go with soup. Ooh.
Good pick. Great pick.
You have chili and soup. Yeah.
Okay. And beers.
And beers. You're liquids.
You hate chewing in the morning. And the Kardashians.
Don't bother us with chewing. Chili, beer, chili, Kardashian soup.
Fat old asses. That's a hell of a tip on Rushmore.
A lot of liquid in that that one i wish we had already done this one because like if that were your picks four years ago reading that back we've been like what the fuck would we just do okay good picks i think we caught a dub yeah you might just have yeah wait times time's not out yeah okay so this one we're gonna go with steak now hear me out making steak sandwiches the next day with mustard look there's people out there who know i'm talking billy you make a ton of steak billy i'm not gonna disagree with you you okay i actually i like eating steak it's not a traditional one no if you cut it up and warm it up it's if you put it in a pan flash a little flash pan it's not that bad i i don't hate to pick i actually think billy's team caught the dub thanksgiving getting past me was that's a good that's that's why i like, beer and chili? Yeah, do I regret the beer? The beer one was tough, yeah. Come back on.
But with steak, I think turning steak into an impromptu steak and eggs combo the next day is fantastic. I don't like having a full steak as a leftover.
Right. But if it's your leftover leftover steak, if it's like a quarter or less,

then yeah.

Kidbits.

Yeah.

Okay.

Barbecue.

Yeah.

No, I'm not going to,

I'm going to be honest.

I don't.

Yeah.

You know, the more I think about it,

the more I think that beer was a great pick.

Yeah, it was.

By whoever chose that on Hank's team.

Vote for that pick then.

PFT, what do we want to do with our last pick?

We have a couple.

Let's see.

I'm going to text you back a couple that I'm thinking.

And I don't know.

Thank you. What do we want to do with our last pick? We have a couple.
Let's see. I'm going to text you back a couple that I'm thinking.

And I don't know.

There's a couple there.

Okay, I'm going to emphasize one thing that you sent over.

Okay.

Consider it emphasized.

Oh, yeah.

Let's do it.

That's a great one.

Yeah, let's do it.

Shepherd's pie.

Shepherd's pie.

Great, great. Wait, so you're picking pie.
You already took pie. No, yeah, you're picking pie and pie.
You can't double pie. Yeah, absolutely not.
Okay, so then So it will say pie and then in parentheses even shepherd's pie This is why on the graphic It's a meat pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We already gave it to us. You're right, you're right.
I already said This is why I specified. You're right, you're right.
Alright, so on our graph be pie of any type of pie, including shepherd's pie. Dessert pie as your third one? No, we just took pie.
No, no, because Billy's right. If we don't, if we just do dessert pie, then we kind of fucked over because you're right.
You're right. I didn't even think about that.
I didn't even think about that. It didn't even dawn on me.
I just loved one thing in the chat. Chicken pot pie.
Yeah, that counts too. Thanks, Billy.
But he's going to... Okay, yeah.
You know what? This is... Yeah, we can do this.
This will be contentious. I like meat pies more than sweet pies.
Yeah, what about... Yeah, cream pies.
I like all... You love meat pies.
I love meat pies. Our last pick is going to be stuffing.
No. No, no, no, no, no.
Why not? You can make stuffing outside of Thanksgiving. I make stuffing at Christmastime.
Everyone knows that. Christmas stuffing.
No. Everyone knows that.
That is under my umbrella of Thanksgiving. Wait, you're a team game, Billy.
Whoa, hold on. But you can make stuffing at different times.
Stuffing should be a year-round food. It should not be limited to only the holidays.
But you guys took shepherd's pie. Right.
So you can't, like, we have umbrellas here. But what about, like, in Canada, you're not eating stuffing at Thanksgiving? All right, I'll make a trade.
You want shepherd's pie, and we'll take stuffing, and you can take shepherd's pie for your fourth pick? No, no, no. We'll make a trade.
No, no, no. Okay, so stuffing stays? No.
No. Okay.
I don't think stuffing should be limited in Thanksgiving. I understand the argument here, so I'm going to relent.
It's a connotation. I'm between a rock and a hard place here.
Listen, it was a valiant attempt by us. We had to make the attempt.
You tried to steal shepherd's pie and stuff. The attempt got denied, but we had to at least try it.
I think in a court of law, you guys would win. But I don't want you guys to win, so I should know.
Okay, our last pick is going to be light beer. No, I'm just kidding.
Vodka. Coors Light.
You can do vodka. Coors Light.
You can do any type of alcohol. Why don't we do your one from the fridge, P.F.T.? Yeah, all right.
Yeah, blue Gatorade in the fridge that you didn't finish. Next morning.
Good one. Yeah.
Thank you, Jake. Thanks, Jake.
No. Yep.
No, you wake up. You're thirsty as hell.
You might be hungover, and you see that partially drank Gatorade. Nope.
You want to know why it's a terrible pick? Because if it's leftover, that means you're already assuming you've already taken a sip. When you're hungover, you want a big, fat glass of Gatorade.
You're only going to get one sip. Oh, no, no, no.
You're going to let us finish. It's the four-gallon bottle of Gatorade.
I didn't tell you, yeah, which size it was at all. It's actually the Gatorade that they put on the sidelines.
But also, that would mean it's leftover from what? Because no one drinks Gatorade the night before. You've got to be careful, Hank.
I like to take a little sip off of it. Hank, when? Yeah, right the night before.
I like to take a little sip off of it. Hank, your argument is negating your beer pick right now.
Oh, yeah. No, it's not.
Because is it an open beer? No, but there's a leftover, but people bring over beers. That's something that gets left over.
No one brings over Gatorade sometimes. Oh, yeah.
A human being. Oh, I'm going to bring Gatorade over to your house.
Yeah, please do. Mothers.
Gatorade zero. Kids.
Yeah, moms. Moms are always bringing Gatorade over.
Body armor. We could have done body armor.
Yeah. I'm sticking by my half-drank blue Gatorade in the fridge.
Terrible pick. Disagree.
This is going to be interesting. When you wake up and you drink, if you only have a half a thing of Gatorade, that's almost worse.
No, sometimes that's the perfect amount of Gatorade to drink. The perfect amount is unlimited when you're hungover.
Wait, so what are your picks, Team Jilly? I think they got it. We have pizza, Thanksgiving.
Jilly dominated this. Cake and steak.
We got the rhyme. The best part is we've already taped Fridays.
Although the Kardashians and beers. Yeah, who could forget? Wait, wait, did you guys throw this? No, no, no.
Are we in a show? No, no, no. Yeah, I mean, they probably did knowing that.
Are we at the pizza situation so here's here's a black olives here's i'm gonna pull back the curtain we already taped friday's mount rushmore because uh we're all off on thursday and we said that they team jilly were like they won just guessing We let you guys go first.

You might have won this.

That was a hostile takeover.

You might have won this.

I still think Chinese is 1-1 by far. It's definitely 1-1.

Right.

So wait, what did you guys pick first?

Pizza.

Pizza's good.

But we have lasagna.

We have pasta.

And pie.

We kind of fell apart on the fourth pick.

Fourth pick might have.

Soup.

Shut up. Would you guys have thought curry apart on the fourth pick.
Fourth pick might have. Soup.
Shut up, babe.

Would you guys have thought Curry was a better fourth pick?

Khloe Kardashian.

That was the other thing I was thinking of.

I mean, I don't like Curry, period.

Curry is very good the next day.

Very good.

Wait, wait.

Never mind.

What?

It's Thai, not Chinese.

No, no.

I got mixed up.

Oh.

Yeah, with the countries.

What else? Anyone else? You didn't know it was from Thailand. Oh, yeah.
With with the countries. What else?

Anyone else?

You know, it's from Thailand.

And we got anything weird.

They like the next day.

McDonald's kind of.

Oh, that's gross.

I think we did.

It's gross.

Flush more fries would be one.

Yeah.

Worse.

I had fried.

I had pulled pork on there.

That's a great one.

The next day pulled pork. Chipotle.
Yeah Yeah that's a good pick Chicken salad Yeah chicken or tuna salad Yeah it's just a weird thing to say out loud That's tough for the graphic Egg salad But it is good leftover Chicken salad's better The more that it's in the fridge The get to know each other. A lot of people disagree with this one.
I do like fried chicken the next day. Yeah.
Obviously the skin is not as crispy, but still it's good the next day. Do you guys like, sometimes I like to eat like pancakes, half a bowl of cereal and then I'll put it in the fridge.
Do you like that the next day? That's kind of a good one. Well, you don't like that? I don't think I've ever done that.

Sprite.

It's delicious.

What, you just eat like half of your...

Like...

It's fake.

What?

Wait, Hank, a flat Sprite.

Hmm.

Slaps.

Yeah.

It slaps.

It slaps.

Ooh, the dinosaur chicken nuggets.

Ah, that's good.

Those are good. Yeah, that's a good one.
Your mom puts in a Ziploc. That's good.
I never had those. That is good.
You know what never is good? Leftover sandwiches. Always sucks.
Yeah, the soggy bread. It always sucks.
You always think it might be okay. Grilled cheese, maybe you can get away with, but everything else.
If you had it dry, it's fine. No mayo or mustard.
Well, then that's not a sandwich. like if we had said uh deli italian sandwich yeah i'd say no to that wait jake you order a

sandwich and you you get it dry yeah no hemes no sauce no spreads you get turkey turkey cheese

lettuce tomato pickles live a little man no mustard no mustard no mayo no jardini nothing

oh man still enough on it where it tastes good disagree i'm just eating from personal level

That's cool. Mustard.
No mustard, no mayo, no Jardin. No, nothing.
Oh, man. There's still enough on it where it tastes good.

Disagree.

I'm just eating it. From a personal level.

That's fair.

No, I'll go one more.

You're wrong.

Okay.

Hamburgers.

I want to weigh the room on this one.

Hot dogs.

Hamburgers I don't hate the next day.

Oh.

I don't.

What?

No, hamburgers are good.

I don't.

It's another one that's, like, cold that goes down so quick put in an omelet yeah there's no no calories um what are your guys thoughts on like bacon egg and cheeses no so i usually get those for breakfast so it's rare that's a that's a full 24 hour it's more like you you get like two of them and eat one, then you throw the one in your lunchbox.

I do that with McGriddles.

Yeah.

Be super hungover, get three, and then maybe at four or five o'clock,

just be like, yeah.

Let's have a McGriddle.

Yeah.

That's a scumbag move, but I like it. Yeah, that's like maybe five or ten years ago, hangover.

Yeah, I'm saying scumbag in an endearing way.

Yeah, no, you're just like, I'm crushing McG hang over. Yeah, I'm saying scumbag in like an endearing way.
Yeah, no, just like,

you're just like, I'm crushing McGriddles.

Yeah, you're like, you're so low, like this is what I'm doing. Yeah.
And Kardashian.

Yeah, it sounds like a

great day. Does Kardashian

never mind. What? You have

to finish a thought. Does it fall under cake?

It's a good joke.

Nice.

Or peach pie?

Get it? Alright good joke. Nice.
Or peach pie. Get it? All right.
Numbers. 69.
Hank, have you ever gotten this? Jake. There's a new account I retweeted today.
That poor guy is trolling him, yeah. There's a new account I retweeted today.
51. 26.
I'm going to follow. Everyone should go follow it.
Has Hank ever gotten the number right? Did Hank win the lottery? Yeah, did Hank win the lottery? I'll go with 39 Put that back I'm going to go with 1 I'll say 56 I have a feeling this is Hank's time No Big 1 No chance Hank can't lose In a karmic way, he doesn't deserve it He's got this He's He's got a very bad boy. Hank's got it in the, oh, I just saw one floating its way up to the top.
Oh, 36. That one was close.
Love you guys. Mules are sterile, and they're actually better workers than horses or donkeys.
Is that donkeys? Mules. Are they donkeys? They're half donkey, half horse.
What are donkeys? Donkeys are donkeys. They're also sterile, right? No, no, no.
Just mules. Now, are mules sterile? Are they infertile? They're sterile.
Well, there's been instances of female mules reproducing, but it's very rare. It's actually amazing.
They're way better than horses or donkeys. How else do they get born? It takes one horse and one donkey.
Donkey and a horse. Fuck.
There's also zorses. What's that? It's a horse and a zebra.
Is that just a zebra? What about elephants? What about jell-less? Giraffe and a giraffe? I don't know.