Liver King, Mt Rushmore Of Subtle Ways To Emasculate Someone + Naming Random NFL Players On New Teams

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have the long-awaited Liver King. Liver King in studio smells something something fierce.

Speaker 2 That was the Musk, big cat.

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Speaker 1 Very interesting interview with Liver King. We also have Mount Rushmore of subtle ways to emasculate someone, which I'm very excited for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm looking at you, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at you, Hank. I'm looking at you.
It's going to be great. I'm looking at PFT.
It's going to be a great Mount Rushmore. We're going to do Who's Back as well.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take presented by Coors Light. Today is Monday, August 22nd, and we did it, boys.
We have officially done it. We have just had the last weekend without football until February.

Speaker 2 That would mean that football is back.

Speaker 1 In other words, the last weekend, let me just say that one more time so everyone can let it sink in. It was the last weekend without football until February.
February,

Speaker 1 I think, 5th, the weekend or February, the weekend of February 3rd will be the next time we have a weekend without football. That will be between the championship games and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Every other weekend.

Speaker 2 You're just dismissing the Pro Bowl?

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, the Pro Bowl. Throw that in there.
So until February, every other weekend has football. We've done it.

Speaker 2 It's here. It's amazing.
It's so good to be back in the swing of things with football.

Speaker 7 Because I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 I've caught myself saying this maybe a dozen times since the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 On part of my take, I'll just refer to everything that happens between February and August as the offseason, even though this is a year-round podcast. Correct.

Speaker 2 Just my brain thinks in terms of binary: is football happening or is football not happening? Is it this week that we have Nebraska against Northwestern in London iconic matchup in Dublin?

Speaker 1 Doubling, Ireland. In Ireland.
Yeah. No, no.

Speaker 2 We got some real mixed lists in this podcast. Yes.
IRA won't appreciate it.

Speaker 1 The week zero slate, I wouldn't say it's incredible, but we do have the Nebraska game. Scott Frost announced that his team is puking.
His offensive line is puking 15 to 20 times per practice.

Speaker 1 That doesn't feel like it's,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Well,

Speaker 1 I feel like that's a lot of puke.

Speaker 2 Counterpoint.

Speaker 2 They were not puking 15 to 20 times per practice last year. How'd that work out for them?

Speaker 1 They actually were an incredible team against the spread. Against the spread.
They were the best

Speaker 1 free win team of all time.

Speaker 2 I'd like to see Nebraska either doing steroids or puking. So I'll take puking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and actually a win for Wisconsin because their new offensive line coach is Donovan Rayola, who went to Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to count that for a Big Ten victory victory all around they're puking 15 to 20 every they might not be pregnant when it was when it was announced everyone on everyone on twitter was just like um

Speaker 2 that feels like a lot no that's that's a lot that's the next generation of saber metrics yeah like we've gone through all the analytics we've used spreadsheets i just wanted uh an offensive line coach in way too hiked up bike shorts you know the kind that that your like little league baseball coach used to wear those like blue bike athletic kind of shorts i want a guy like that with a clipboard and a pen just marking down every time somebody pukes in practice.

Speaker 2 The team that pukes more will win unless it's Teddy Bridgewater on the Vikings.

Speaker 1 It would be funny if it was just one guy who is just puking the whole time. So it's 15 to 20, but it's just one guy who just, he just has a really bad gag reflex.

Speaker 2 My column for the athletic. Does Nebraska football have a body image problem?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe, yeah, they're humbulic. They're all just trying to get into, you know, get it as skinny as possible for the Graham.

Speaker 1 It just, when I saw it, I was like, oh, that's cool. They're probably badass, but it's like, let's hope that everyone stays safe for the rest of the training camp.

Speaker 2 At least they'll fit right in in Ireland.

Speaker 1 Scott Frost just

Speaker 1 put himself into a nice spot for a future lawsuit if anything happens.

Speaker 2 Like, was he the one that gave that quote? He said, like, I personally wish that.

Speaker 1 He said, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 Some things you just don't want to say in front of a reporter, and that would be one of them.

Speaker 1 Scott Frost also is at a point now where, like, he should have probably been fired a couple of years ago. And so he's like, what do I care? Let's just puke.

Speaker 1 All right, so since we were leading the show with football, we promised it on Friday's show. We're going to do a quick

Speaker 1 trying to wow each other with names of players in different places because this happens right around now. You do your fantasy draft.
Week one comes and you're like, oh, shit, that guy's on this team.

Speaker 1 I had that with Julio Jones when he was on the Bucs. But what, anyone want to start off? I have some ones that, like, I have some in the camp that I know, I knew it, and then it still shocks me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I, yeah, I'll start with a couple and then we can go around the room. Teddy Bridgewater, he's a dolphin.

Speaker 8 He is a dolphin.

Speaker 4 This year. Yes.

Speaker 2 Jarvis Landry on the Saints.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 O.J. Howard, a Buffalo Bill.

Speaker 1 Bill. Yeah.
Yeah. Here's one that

Speaker 1 there's so the two that I was talking about that's like, I knew it, but I forgot it, and it would shock me when I see it week one.

Speaker 1 Allen Robinson, obviously, I knew was on the Rams, but that still is going to be like one of those things that I feel like we're going to have a lot of people complain about

Speaker 1 the Rams being too good because Allen Robinson is on them.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 2 everyone's going to realize how good Allen Robinson is

Speaker 2 for the first time. Yes.

Speaker 1 I also completely memory-hold the fact that Amari Cooper's on the Browns. Oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I remember the trade, and then I was like, wait, fuck, he's on the Browns. Damn.
Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 He went from the black Kirk Cousins to the black Ben Rofflitzbergers.

Speaker 1 That's wild. Yes.
So that one just that one shocked me. What do you guys got?

Speaker 9 Austin Hooper, Titans.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Hassan Reddick, Eagles.

Speaker 1 Chuju's on the Chief, and Sammy Watkins is on the Packers. Yeah.
Oh, I forgot about Sammy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 JC Jackson is on the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Kyle Van Noy's on the Chargers. What? Yeah.
And Khalil Mack obviously is on the Chargers, but that's another one that people are going to complain about being like, both him, Khalil Mack, not fair.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 Will Compton, still a free agent.

Speaker 1 Yep, year 10, loading.

Speaker 1 Did you know that Jabril Peppers was on the Patriots, Hank?

Speaker 1 He is. Yeah.
Still playing? He's on the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Guess what? The Bucs, their defense, I think,

Speaker 1 is the

Speaker 1 Sue.

Speaker 2 He's a free agent. He's a free agent right now.

Speaker 4 But the Bucs have Hakeem Hicks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Crazy. Pretty good.
Crazy.

Speaker 2 Bobby Wagner is a Ram and still really good. So when I saw that he was a Ram, I was like, holy shit, that's crazy.
He must be like at the end of his career. He was actually all-pro last year.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so the Rams got a good one there.

Speaker 1 Here's one that just makes perfect sense. Demarcus Robinson, like, you know, the fastest guy on the Chiefs, and everyone's like, he's a problem, all this stuff.
He's a Raider. Raider.
So it's perfect.

Speaker 1 Like, that one, that's one of those ones I'll see. I'll be like, yep, that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Matt Breda is on the Giants.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 AJ Brown, don't forget he's an Eagle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's an Eagle.

Speaker 1 A.J. Brown is an Eagle.
And remember, Hollywood Brown is a Cardinal. Yep.
That's an important one to remember. Yep.

Speaker 2 Marquise Goodwin is on the Seahawks. Yep.
I feel like he's on a different team every single year. Every single year.
Does he just do one? He bets on himself constantly. Yep.

Speaker 1 Jameson Crowder's a bill.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 This is probably going to be the worst. People are going to be like, what did I just listen to? But there's also going to be a lot of people who be like, thank you because you raised awareness.

Speaker 1 No, I forgot. It's an issue that we all have.

Speaker 2 We're just getting ahead of the game.

Speaker 1 At this point in the season,

Speaker 1 everyone has this problem. Hayden Hurst is on the Bengals.
He's going to make a big catch, and you're going to be like, oh, shit.

Speaker 2 They had to replace that downfield weapon that they lost to the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Billy, what do you got? You got one?

Speaker 8 This one might be a little late, but Zach Ertz, Cardinal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is late. He played on them last year.
I know, but it's no back.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.
Big Ben is retired.

Speaker 9 Tom Brady's a buck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people forget that.

Speaker 4 Good point, Hank.

Speaker 2 Matt Stafford is trying to prove that he's actually an elite quarterback on the Rams now.

Speaker 10 Andrew Luck retired.

Speaker 1 Andrew Luck. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 1 Billy, those were all jokes jokes at your expense. I know.

Speaker 2 Odell Beckham, still a free agent. Still a free agent.

Speaker 1 Chandler Jones. Raider.
Really? Yeah. I forgot.
Pretty good for them.

Speaker 2 Good for the Raiders. Oh, how about the other big Raider news?

Speaker 1 What was that? What was that face? You gave a face.

Speaker 9 I was just, I didn't want to make a joke. I like Chandler Jones, but, you know, I was thinking of like a John, you know, Jones as having had the best experience living in Vegas.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah. But that's two different people.

Speaker 1 Chandler Jones is great. Yeah.
Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 11 Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Bronx. Brock.
Bronze Back. Yeah, good one.
Oh, God.

Speaker 2 Noah Fant Seahawk. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 His name kind of got lost in that whole Drew Locke, Russell Wilson. Noah Fant is probably.
Well, he's definitely better at his position than Drew Locke is.

Speaker 1 Yes. I got a curveball.
Oh.

Speaker 4 Joe Bach, ESPN.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Yeah.
Good call, Jay. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Al Michaels.

Speaker 2 Thursday night football. Okay, so I was thinking about Al Michaels and Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 2 Because they just debuted the Thursday Night Football Anthem last week, and I guess it's perfect in the sense that it felt like I've heard it a million times before already.

Speaker 1 Well, people, I think, were also just mad about it because it was an orchestra, but like, how do you think all the other ones are?

Speaker 2 That's what they all are. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 2 at the end of it, they have like the electric guitar with a million points of reverb repeating the hook. That's what it's like on every channel.

Speaker 2 So they always have that same kind of setup, but it sounds like every a blend of every other football anthem that you've ever heard.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 I still like our Thursday Night Football Anthem a little bit better. I'm a little bit biased, but I was thinking about Al Michaels making his debut.

Speaker 2 I think he brings too much gravitas to Thursday night.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have a Thursday night voice.

Speaker 2 Especially.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's got a Sunday night or a Monday night voice. He does not have a Thursday night voice.
There are certain people that have Thursday night voices out there.

Speaker 2 Al Michaels, no, I do not want to hear him on a weekday. I don't want to have to go to work for a full another day before the weekend when I hear Al Michaels' voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is going to be weird. It is going to be very weird to have Joe Buck on Monday nights.
I'm not ready for that. That one's going to kind of blow my mind.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Hank? You got another name? I think we got some good names.

Speaker 7 Tyree Kill Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Tyree Kill is on the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 Tom Brady, almost a Raider. Yeah.
So there was that story that Dana White broke and Grant confirmed. I think we talked about that on part of my take, didn't we?

Speaker 2 I think we said that Tom Brady was thinking about going to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Well, no. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 there was always

Speaker 1 another team with Tom Brady, not counting the Bucks or the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 A lot of people, there was a time when people thought it might have been the Bears, and then there was like, I think there was a Chargers thing that went around.

Speaker 1 But the fact that, like, if you look at the quotes now afterwards, where,

Speaker 1 like, reading them back, it's very funny to be like, he's talking about Derek Carr because he said there was a, this is Tom Brady's quote.

Speaker 1 There was a story in Free Agency, one of the teams they were interested in, and all of a sudden, they weren't interested at the very end.

Speaker 1 I was sitting there thinking, you're sticking with that motherfucker? Are you serious? Yeah. So just thinking about him just sitting on his couch, angry at Derek Carr is very funny.

Speaker 2 Everyone is trying to figure out who the motherfucker was. I thought he was going to go to the Jets.
Yeah. That's what it sounded like to me.

Speaker 2 But I think that, like, Tom Brady to the Raiders always kind of made sense in my head. Yes.
Because they wanted a splash.

Speaker 2 They wanted, like, Las Vegas is still a relatively new city to have an NFL team. They wanted a big name out there.
I always thought Tom Brady made sense.

Speaker 2 In fact, when they got Josh McDaniels as their head coach and Brady retired, I thought that there was a chance that he would come back and play for the Raiders. Right.

Speaker 2 Like they just made that hire solely to get Tom Brady to come play for them. Right.
And then all the shit went down and Tom stuck around in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 But I feel like it was in the back of his head to go to either the Dolphins or the Raiders. I know Hank doesn't like hearing that, but that's just the fact.

Speaker 2 I mean, you probably would have preferred that he go to the Raiders instead of going to the Dolphins in the division, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. And also, the idea of John Gruden with Tom Brady would have been very funny.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 He would not have allowed Tom Brady to take three weeks off to go on the Mask Singer.

Speaker 1 No, no, yeah, that's the rumor that's going around that

Speaker 1 it would be the dumbest story of all time if he actually did that.

Speaker 1 He can do whatever he wants, though. Yeah, but the Masked Singer would be outrageous.

Speaker 2 If he actually misses training for that, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 9 what does he need to train?

Speaker 2 I mean, everybody needs to practice. You're doing Alan Iverson on him?

Speaker 1 It's preseason for everyone, bro.

Speaker 9 I think he gets a little bit of leeway.

Speaker 1 For the Masked Singer, though?

Speaker 1 That's where it would be really.

Speaker 9 I don't think it's true.

Speaker 2 The thing is, I don't think that

Speaker 2 Tom Brady would sit here and tell you that even he needs to practice. He's like obsessive about that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 I've gone like overly woke on this now, and I think that it's a rumor that was started by the masked singer because people are definitely going to be tuning in, trying to figure out, is that Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 It's the one show that you can basically get all the way through the episode being like, maybe it is Tom Brady. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 The fact that that show made it past one season is just, that's tough looking.

Speaker 1 Dude, everyone watches it.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's nothing to watch.
That's exactly. Well, it is kind of cool because you don't know who's singing, and then they unmask it.

Speaker 2 That's, yeah, that's the thing, Hank.

Speaker 4 At the end.

Speaker 1 We should do the mask podcaster.

Speaker 12 All right.

Speaker 1 See, Sweet Hank think that. All right, so if I have a mask on, I'm like, you know, Hitler didn't have that many bad ideas.
Well, who would I have been? No, Philly. One second.
Stop, stop. No, no.

Speaker 8 We cannot have that out there. You guys cut me off before I finish the sentence.
It was because he's too much of a pussy to actually commit it to crimes.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you're saying he was innocent? No.

Speaker 4 You're saying it's...

Speaker 1 Disavow Hitler. Disavow Hitler.
Okay, there we go. It's funny.

Speaker 2 So Big Kat and I get occasional group texts from Tom Fernelli, recurring guest host, who we should have on.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, Hank's on there, too.

Speaker 2 Oh, but you're on.

Speaker 2 Big Kat and I are in some side-side ones with Tom.

Speaker 1 You're probably on this one, too.

Speaker 9 So he sent a side one and then sent you guys a side-side one?

Speaker 2 No, I just couldn't remember if you were on that one. Got it.
But he said Billy's the first person in history to use the, but I was just giving orders. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, no, because there's always like the, you know, like, oh, there was good Germans or like, you know, they're just in war.
They were followers.

Speaker 1 He was just. Hitler, you know, he was just giving them up.
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuck Hitler. Oh, okay, nice.

Speaker 1 But you just

Speaker 1 whispered, but, you whispered, but. It's not funny.

Speaker 8 It's not funny.

Speaker 1 How is he at

Speaker 2 funny Billy? Content. It's not really scared.
Content of his message aside. How was he at public speaking?

Speaker 1 Fuck Hitler.

Speaker 11 Fuck Hitler. What about his art?

Speaker 1 Fuck Hitler. Okay.
Good job, Billy. You finally came out and said said it.
No, Jesus Christ. First 23 years of your life.

Speaker 2 Does it feel good like a weight's been lifted? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No. This is fucking

Speaker 1 the worst thing ever. What's your dog's name again?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 He's named after a baseball player.

Speaker 1 One of your favorites, right? Yes. You remember watching?

Speaker 1 His dog's name's Whitey after Whitey Ford.

Speaker 1 Good dog. Very good dog.
He shouldn't get stray shots in this.

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Speaker 1 All right, what else is going on this weekend? The UFC fight was insane if people watched.

Speaker 1 I've actually never seen anything like it in UFC. Essentially, if you're not a big UFC guy, Usman,

Speaker 1 the champion, was beating the fuck out of this guy, Leon Edwards, who's from Birmingham. He's a badass.
It was over, completely over. And one of those fights that was kind of boring.

Speaker 1 And with one minute left, left Leon Edwards just crumpled him literally crumpled him like a law a lawn chair with a kick to the face and it was it was actually one of those moments it's like this is I was thinking about it it's like this is why I bought every Tyson pay-per-view well past his prime because in the fight game doesn't matter like how it's going one shot can end anyone yeah he caught him right on the button just immediately crumpled him crazy just like completely paralyzed him with one kick and he knew it too you know sometimes, like at a UFC fight, if there's a big knockout, the guy will knock him out and then jump on him and try to finish off.

Speaker 2 He knew the second his foot contacted his face, he's like, that's lights out. He was out.

Speaker 2 And then the reaction from Joe Rogan was awesome. Yes.
I love watching his because he looks just so amazed, so full of wonder.

Speaker 2 Actually, I think that Joe Rogan's reaction to this knockout is exactly like Billy's reaction to listening to Joe Rogan podcasts.

Speaker 1 Yes, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Speaker 1 over and over. But it was very cool.

Speaker 1 It was a very cool sporting moment. I'm trying to think what else.
We had the kids broadcast tonight on

Speaker 1 MLB, the Orioles and the Red Sox played. I said it before, but thank God Vin Scully's dead because he would have been rolling in his grave.
Jake, what do you say for yourself?

Speaker 10 I put my tweet on the broadcast.

Speaker 1 Were you saying good job, guys?

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 2 He said the future of sports broadcasting is in great hands. Oh, God.
So I don't have a problem with the concept.

Speaker 2 However, if you're going to do an all-kids broadcasting team, you cannot have the play-by-play guy be 18. He was not a kid.
He wasn't a kid. You know what? This is like Danny El Monte all over again.

Speaker 12 So he's 18.

Speaker 2 Check his birth certificate.

Speaker 10 The analyst is 14. The Silent Reporter was 11.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 They also, they messed up quite a bit in the third and fourth inning.

Speaker 1 It is nice to have.

Speaker 4 I apologize right away.

Speaker 1 What did they mess up?

Speaker 4 The count.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 They got the wrong batter.

Speaker 1 It is great when we have Jake and just anything that happens in the broadcast booth, we just blame him. We were just putting these kids.
They are your...

Speaker 1 like they look up, they probably have a Jake Marsh poster in their room. I don't know about that, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Those guys, those guys are listening to this podcast right now, having me say shit like this.

Speaker 2 Hank, why are you pointing your finger? What are you?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's spinning something. Oh, okay, he's spinning.

Speaker 2 I thought he was outrushed, I thought he was ready to interject with something. Oh, also, more big news today: congratulations to uh sister gene, it's her birthday.

Speaker 2 Nice, sister Gene is 103 in human years today, so very happy for you, you old bat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that turtle who's like 182, that thing.
What is his name, Tom? No, Gregory. What was that turtle's name?

Speaker 2 Are you talking about Lonesome George?

Speaker 1 Yeah, George. No, George.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 The one. No, no, no.

Speaker 11 He's not dead.

Speaker 2 I mushed Lonesome George. He was the oldest turtle on the planet, and I was supposed to meet him.
I was in the Galapagos, and the day that I was there, he died before I had a chance to meet him.

Speaker 1 It's not Lonesome George. There's a turtle that's been alive for like 182 years.
What the fuck is his name, Billy? I thought you'd be all over this.

Speaker 8 No, are you talking about Rocket from Wichita, Kansas, who keeps escaping? It's a closure?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Fuck it, you're thinking of Lonesome George.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I'm thinking of Lonesome George.

Speaker 1 His ass has been dead since 2012. Then why were people wishing him a happy birthday? What the fuck is that?

Speaker 8 When were they wishing him?

Speaker 1 Like two days ago. I didn't see.
No, I think there's news. I think you're talking about Rocket.
I don't know what Rocket is.

Speaker 8 Rocket was another tortoise. Oh, you may be talking about the TikTok tortoise that just chases shoes.

Speaker 4 Oh, the racist one? The racist tortoise.

Speaker 2 The racist turtle?

Speaker 1 Jonathan. Here it is.
Jonathan. Jonathan is

Speaker 1 the tortoise turns 188 today. He's the oldest living land animal alive.

Speaker 2 People were wishing Jonathan a happy birthday.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Wow. Jonathan is a world-famous 190-year-old

Speaker 2 gay giant tortoise. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is gay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I knew that. Love is love.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 he actually is a pioneer. He was gay.

Speaker 1 He's 190 years old. Yeah, so I was right.
People were wishing him happy birthday. It was like Saturday or something.

Speaker 2 Jonathan, the blind, gay, sex-crazed giant tortoise is now the oldest to have ever lived. Does that mean the oldest, gay, blind, sex-crazed tortoise or the oldest tortoise?

Speaker 4 Both.

Speaker 1 Probably both, yeah. Billy, I'm not.

Speaker 1 You should have been on this. This is your.

Speaker 8 Well, the description was.

Speaker 1 I was like, there's a fucking old-ass tortoise that Jonathan will say, happy birthday to. 190? That's crazy.

Speaker 8 They find snapping turtles with Civil War musket bullets in their shells.

Speaker 1 That's insane. So, yeah, shout out Jonathan.
He's fucking old. We should actually put him in the.
He should win a Takey next year. Maybe he'll die.
That would be funny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If the Takey actually killed him.

Speaker 2 He had a partner named Frederica, and she was his lover. His spouse.
His beard? Yeah, well, check this out.

Speaker 2 So, Frederica, she went to get a checkup at the vet, and they looked and they're like, oh, that little tiny thing that we thought was just like a lesion on your shell, that's your dick.

Speaker 7 Frederica, you're actually.

Speaker 2 Frederica's dick is so small that they thought it was a chick for a while.

Speaker 1 They thought it was a clip. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so shout out Jonathan. He's just been living his best gay life.
He should go on out and about.

Speaker 1 They should have him on. Put him on the truck.
190.

Speaker 1 Dude, think about how.

Speaker 1 What year was it? I can't tell you.

Speaker 8 1886, I think.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 2 Him and

Speaker 4 Jake Plummer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Live forever.

Speaker 1 Cutler. I bet you Jonathan eats mushrooms every single day.
For sure.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else in the sports world? I think that comes, I mean, we're.

Speaker 1 Football's back.

Speaker 1 So it's all the way back. Albert Poojos making a run for $700.

Speaker 1 It's very cool. I'd rather not talk about Albert Poulos.

Speaker 1 I'd rather talk about the fact that Yadier Molina just took a weekend off from the Cardinals because his basketball team was in the championship game, and he took like personal leave.

Speaker 1 Did you see that?

Speaker 9 I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 Jake? No, I didn't see it. Yes.
I got to look it up. Yes, Yaddi Armolina, he asked for the weekend off from the Cardinals.
You can play basketball. No, no,

Speaker 1 like he owns a basketball team in like,

Speaker 1 I think in Puerto Rico. And he was like, I need the weekend off for personal reasons.
And then I'm pretty sure there was a picture of him with a cigar and the trophy because his team won.

Speaker 1 That's sick. That was where his head's at.
That's gross by the Cardinals. You'd think Yadi would

Speaker 1 really want to be there for Albert and all that shit. Yeah, how many is away?

Speaker 9 I think he had two today or yesterday. He's got 692.

Speaker 1 Yadier Molina notified the team he needed the weekend to attend to business in Puerto Rico. Worth noting, basketball team Molina owns Conclicha Championship this weekend.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I kind of respect that.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he's just like, I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 I want to go party with my team.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go to an island for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It is also just very funny that the Yankees just continue to be like the worst players today.

Speaker 2 They've lost, what, 15 out of 21 now?

Speaker 13 It's been really bad since the break, but they still have, I believe it's an eight-game lead.

Speaker 2 You have to give credit to Aaron Boone for turning things around. He said, this is a direct quote, we need to start playing better baseball if we want to turn this around.

Speaker 2 So Aaron Boone has his finger on the pulse of the New York Yankees.

Speaker 1 They just can't score. It's very funny.

Speaker 2 It's weird. It's weird what's happened to them.

Speaker 1 It almost makes you think.

Speaker 10 They'll be judges on the playoffs no matter what.

Speaker 1 Which, would you say it's going to go well? I mean,

Speaker 1 they haven't won it all since 2009, so it's World Series or busts. I don't know.

Speaker 10 They haven't even got out of the LCS since then.

Speaker 2 It would actually be perfect, though, if the Yankees imploded again, because that's what you're getting with Aaron Boone.

Speaker 2 You're going to be a very good regular season team, and then things are going to fall apart in October.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they'll bring everyone back next year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then give him another extension.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just being like, shit, we were that close. We just had a couple injuries.
stopped us from being, you know, just remember how good we were at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 As A-Rod says, there's a difference between the macro and the micro. Correct.
The Yankees are built for the macro.

Speaker 2 Teams that are better than the Yankees in the playoffs are actually better built for the micro.

Speaker 1 And, yeah, I mean, what other team has been to the playoffs as much as the Yankees? That's the real victory.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true. Because in baseball, you really judge a team on the 162 games that they play.

Speaker 1 They're playing interceptions. Oh, no, Billy.
Sorry, Billy. That's too bad.
Billy's been rooting against me and PFT's bet just because he wants to tweet about Trace McSorley.

Speaker 2 Which he already tweeted about Trace McSorley.

Speaker 1 You should do another one. I just threw a pick.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 8 Fun fact, he's now on the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 2 Oh, the Cardinals are wearing their black helmets, which is weird.

Speaker 4 Very cool.

Speaker 2 So I like them, but it's weird. I think it's only weird because they're going up against the Ravens, who also have the black helmets.

Speaker 2 I think these helmets are going to play in the regular season.

Speaker 1 That was a bad pick.

Speaker 2 Kyler's going to look extra tiny in these helmets, though.

Speaker 1 That was a bad pick, Billy. Tough one.
I like Trace McSorley, but the way you were rooting against us makes me not like him.

Speaker 2 I wasn't. Okay.
You were definitely rooting against our bet.

Speaker 8 I just wanted him to score a touchdown so I could tweet and throw it on a dime.

Speaker 11 But you did it anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For like a 10-yard game.
So we're good. We're all good.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back.

Speaker 1 Then we have Liver King. Then we have the Mount Rushmore of

Speaker 1 subtle ways to emasculate someone.

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Speaker 1 Who's back of the week, Hank?

Speaker 9 My Who's Back of the Week is Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 It's on right now as we're taping this.

Speaker 1 Can you ever hurt you?

Speaker 7 Hank, give a recap of it.

Speaker 9 Dracaris.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 9 don't say that word a dragon will appear uh it does hurt me a little bit it was it was definitely something that i obviously knew was coming we've talked about it uh you know i did read that book uh as we all remember big old book and i just wasn't ready for it to be back this soon i guess it was like one of those things where I thought it was coming maybe in the fall or winter next year, and then all of a sudden last night I saw a tweet that was like, it's coming out tomorrow, premiering at 9 o'clock.

Speaker 9 I haven't had enough time to process and get over it. I'm probably going to watch it, and all those emotions are going to come swelling back.

Speaker 1 It's snuck up. I'll probably be mad.
So it's a prequel, right? Yeah. Okay.
How many years?

Speaker 1 I believe

Speaker 9 like less than 100.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 So it's got the mad king in it.

Speaker 1 Half a job.

Speaker 9 The mad king is the king, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh. So it's like.

Speaker 1 So we're just... Oh, I thought it was like many, many years.

Speaker 9 So did I.

Speaker 1 But it's not.

Speaker 9 I don't think so. I'm going to have to watch it.

Speaker 1 If we're wrong, people are going to be very mad at this point of the show. I think it's 200 years.
Okay.

Speaker 9 I think you're very wrong.

Speaker 1 Oh, I looked it up. Can we get it? Can we get the exact amount of years?

Speaker 2 Look it up.

Speaker 1 I want to know. Is it going to be cool?

Speaker 2 Yeah, are they going to have like completely different technology? Is it going to be like primitive technology compared to what they had in Game of Thrones because it's 200 years earlier?

Speaker 9 Well, no, but I think this is more like, I think Game of Thrones went backwards because this is with a bunch of dragons in it.

Speaker 1 It's 200 years. 200 years? Oh, damn.
Billy just sunned you.

Speaker 2 They should have it just straight up be top gun, but with dragons instead of planes.

Speaker 1 That'd be cool. That's cool.
Yeah. There's got to be a lot of dragons in this one.
Right, Hank? Yes. Okay, good.

Speaker 9 That's called the House of Dragons.

Speaker 1 Okay. But you know them.
They'll fuck us, right?

Speaker 2 They're actually Wyverns, not dragons.

Speaker 9 But yeah, Game of Thrones is back. Everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 9 And, you know, to be determined whether or not it's worth it.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll start watching.

Speaker 2 We should do a recap on next Sunday's show of tonight's show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then if everybody comes back, we'll just forget it exists.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT, your who's back?

Speaker 7 My who's back of the week. I've got a couple.

Speaker 1 Is that okay? Yeah, unless you take one of mine. Okay, I won't.
I take one of mine. You know what mine is.
How many total?

Speaker 2 I know what Jake's is going to be.

Speaker 1 You know what mine is going to be.

Speaker 2 I think I know what Big Cat's is going to be. J.R.? Yes.
Yeah, so I'm not going to do that one. Who's back? Michael Thomas.

Speaker 2 Michael Thomas is back because he's dealing with a little bit of a hamstring right now. So he's already injured.

Speaker 2 We're looking forward to getting Michael Thomas back at some point this year, maybe for like a week. Old Captain Slant himself.
I actually think Jameis is going to love Michael Thomas.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because he's a big dude that kind of fits right in between linebackers that he can hit. Yeah.
It's Jameis' specialty. So Michael Thomas is back

Speaker 2 having a little bit of a hamstring, which is never something that you want to hear. And then my other who's back of the week is the United States.
U.S. is back, bitches.

Speaker 12 Because of Dougs?

Speaker 1 Because of soccer.

Speaker 2 Because of soccer, baby. We're calling it soccer now.
It's no longer football over in England because Leeds beat the fuck out of Chelsea today. 3-0, as they say.
Leeds is head coach, American.

Speaker 2 Also, the first goal scorer today, Brendan Aronson, American. They call him the Medford Messi because he's from Medford, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 But yeah, the dude Jamie Marsh, who is Jake's older brother, is the head coach of Leeds. And

Speaker 2 he's like real life Ted Lasso, who just went over there and turned Leeds around.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 all you have to know about this is that the United States has already taken over the English Premier League. That's sick.
It belongs to us now. That's sick.

Speaker 1 It's ours now.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back here is Josh Rosen. He is on the Browns, and

Speaker 1 in classic Josh Rosen fashion, he got in for, I think, an entire half. He went seven for 20 for 88 yards.
No TDs, no interceptions.

Speaker 1 He has to be doing this on purpose at this point. His stat lines are just so, so predictably exactly what they are every single time, where it's just...

Speaker 1 I don't know how he does it. I don't know how you complete 20 passes in today's NFL.

Speaker 1 Sorry, not complete, but attempt 20 passes and have 88 yards.

Speaker 2 He takes shots, man.

Speaker 1 That's what he does. It's crazy.
It's crazy. And I, listen,

Speaker 1 I still will stand

Speaker 1 on the mountain for Josh Rose and be like, he didn't get a fair shot. Someone will give him that fair shot, and they're going to...

Speaker 1 I think he said there's nine other teams that... There's nine teams that passed on me, and they're going to regret this forever.

Speaker 1 It was all-time backfire, like trying to do a Tom Brady. Like, I'll always remember who passed on me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think anyone's worried about passing on him in the draft.

Speaker 2 He looked capable. I saw some of his highlights.

Speaker 1 He always does.

Speaker 4 He looked capable out there.

Speaker 2 He's always going to look like a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, his throwback is always really half good.

Speaker 2 That's half the battle in the NFL. If you look like a quarterback, you'll be able to have a job as a backup for a long time.
What's his name? Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel looks incredible right now.

Speaker 2 Chase Daniel will go out there, throw for 180 yards on like 11 of 16 passing, and you'll lose by like 10 points. But that's all you need your backup backup quarterback to do.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 But it's good to see Josh Rosen back out there.

Speaker 1 7 for 20 for 88 yards. I mean, he's got to be doing it as a joke.
It's so perfect. It's a good bit.
It really is.

Speaker 1 Because it's a memorable bit. He was trending for a while.
It's good job, Josh. All right, Billy.

Speaker 8 My who's back is Dennis Rodman.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Dennis Rodman getting back on the national diplomacy grind. He's going to go to Russia.

Speaker 8 His quote is, I know Putin too well, and hopefully he's going to try to negotiate the release of one of their hostages.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 He'll probably get this figured out. Is there a chance, though?

Speaker 1 I'm scared.

Speaker 1 Are we supposed to not talk about it? No, Britney Griner. Yeah, Brittany Griner.
He's going to get Britney Griner.

Speaker 2 Why was he an awful job of not talking about it if that's what you were trying not to do?

Speaker 8 Wasn't it? Never mind.

Speaker 1 We're not supposed to talk about it because

Speaker 8 they might be listening. Because then they think

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 8 she's too large of a being. They try to get a bigger hostage.

Speaker 2 Big guy's right. Putin's a long time stoolie.

Speaker 1 He's a huge spitting chicken. He's He's like, wait, we have Britney Griner? Yeah, Putin is right after this.

Speaker 2 He's competing in the next Chicklets Cup.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 He's going to score a lot of goals.

Speaker 2 Yep, he's first overall draft pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I feel like Dennis Rodman might take him a hostage.

Speaker 2 I don't think Dennis Robin's going to break any laws.

Speaker 1 No, I just feel like

Speaker 1 we might have to give up two

Speaker 1 merchant of deaths to get these guys back.

Speaker 2 It'd be very funny if he was visiting Britney Griner in jail and brought in a cake with a file in it to try to break her out of there.

Speaker 1 No, more likely he'll visit Brittany Griner in jail and bring like a vape pen or something.

Speaker 2 Or he could visit her in jail. They could have a baby and the world's best rebounder of all time.

Speaker 1 Brittany Griner is

Speaker 1 she's she is homosexual. Okay, well then probably that probably won't happen.
Yeah. Yeah, but could you never know.
Yeah. Love, well, no, that wouldn't be love.

Speaker 11 Love is love.

Speaker 2 Life finds a way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So Dennis Rodman is going to Russia to free Brittany Griner.
Okay, good. It's It's going to get done.

Speaker 2 Ambassador Dennis Rodman.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Recurring guest Dennis Rodman.

Speaker 1 Yes. Recurring guest, Dennis Rodman.
Jake.

Speaker 10 I got two quick ones.

Speaker 4 First up, Yananis Haslam.

Speaker 13 Yep. Year 20.

Speaker 10 Geek culture back on the bench.

Speaker 1 Like, what's the deal here?

Speaker 2 $2.9 million.

Speaker 1 Air coach.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you could pay him less to just be...

Speaker 1 Like, he doesn't play, does he? Did he play last year at all? He got in a couple times, yeah.

Speaker 1 One of the blowouts. I'm not saying, like, listen.
It helps. The locker room.
Yeah. It's like basically a dream job because

Speaker 1 I always wonder like a guy who was good enough to be on a team and play like meaningful minutes, like why wouldn't you just hang around and live the NBA lifestyle?

Speaker 1 So good for him, but it's crazy that it's 20 years now. It is.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it really does help the locker room.

Speaker 13 Like he said, he's helped revive careers just like the culture has.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 He's the heartbeat of the culture.

Speaker 2 He does have the best job ever. And actually, he's like the Chase Daniel of the NBA.
Yes. That's the exact kind of guy that you want.

Speaker 2 So there are only two players that have played 20 or more seasons for a single franchise before today. Do you know who those two are?

Speaker 4 Pop Quiz.

Speaker 9 I don't. Tim Duncan.

Speaker 1 Dirk. Okay.
Kobe. Kobe, yeah.
Yeah. That makes sense.

Speaker 13 Yes, makes exciting for heat culture.

Speaker 10 My second who's back is Urban Meyer.

Speaker 1 He is officially back on the Fox

Speaker 1 team.

Speaker 10 So we'll be seeing him every Saturday.

Speaker 2 Great. He should do like a Lee Corso thing where you put the mascot's head on.

Speaker 2 He should just hold up whatever pants of whatever sorority his hand was in the previous night from whichever school he thinks is going to win. Yeah, the letters.
Just a quick fun idea. Big letters.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Urban Meyer.
I'm going to be very excited. He's going to go viral.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not really calling a shot.

Speaker 1 He's going to go viral like three or four times this year, trying to be like, the way you got to coach a football team is accountability and being being there for your guys.

Speaker 1 You got to be a role model. You're just going to log on and see Urban Meyers viral on like a Saturday afternoon and be like, why?

Speaker 1 And then you'll look at it and you'll be like, oh, he said something completely contradictory to his own effort. It is a good panel.
Yeah, who is it?

Speaker 10 Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 We have a college football show here. You're like, everyone's good.

Speaker 9 If it was bad, you wouldn't say it was bad.

Speaker 4 Okay, they stink.

Speaker 1 Okay, wow. Who's on it? Who's on it?

Speaker 10 It's Brady Quinn, Reggie Bush, Matt Liner.

Speaker 1 Okay. And Rob Stunner's the host.
Okay. Okay.
Not bad. And Urban.

Speaker 2 Urban is really the one guy on there. I'm like,

Speaker 2 why do I need to see Urban Meyer on my TV anymore? I give it probably week two before he goes on a rant about how he got canceled as the coach of the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 He'll definitely say that.

Speaker 1 He won't say he got canceled. He'll say, you have to be real careful in this day and age.
Yeah. Because what happened?

Speaker 2 He's going to say, like, with cell phones and social media, you never know whose butthole your hands are going to go up.

Speaker 1 Yep, exactly. It'll be, it'll definitely be a lesson to the kids.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's get it to Liver King. It's time for the Liver King interview.

Speaker 1 Very interesting interview. I didn't really know anything about him going into it, but I came out being like, I kind of like liver.
So we're liver boys.

Speaker 12 Yeah, we're liver boys.

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Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say

Speaker 1 your name because you ate your own name. That's what I read.
It is the Liver King. The man, the myth, the legend, the Liver King.
I was reading an article about you last night.

Speaker 1 You're like, yeah, my former life, I ate that person, and now I'm the Liver King. So Liver King, welcome to the studio.
Welcome to the office.

Speaker 1 You know, glad to have you here.

Speaker 4 I am so grateful to be here, you guys. You know, I desperately need these opportunities.
I want to spend 60 seconds just to tell you what I mean when I say I'm grateful.

Speaker 4 I got one job to do as a CEO of the Ancestral Lifestyle, to model, teach, and preach this way because so many people are living a life of hurt and hate and suffering struggle, right?

Speaker 4 People today, most people are living with depression, anxiety, infertility. They want to have kids.
They can't be healthy enough, to be fertile enough, to bring a life into this world, right?

Speaker 4 They got autoimmune conditions, low energy, low libido, low ambition in life. There's this better life to live.
You guys know this life because you guys have a great fucking time.

Speaker 4 I see the culture and the chemistry, the love, the laughter, the light that you have on the show. This is what we have to advance in the world, right?

Speaker 4 And so this is my job is to model, teach, and preach this message so that this message can go mainstream, so that we can all express this highest and most dominant form, this life full of excitement and adventure.

Speaker 4 So when I say thank you back to you.

Speaker 4 This is what I mean. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. You get a lot of money.
Is this mic on, by the way? Is this mic on? I just want to make sure because I got a look from the producer. It is?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 You get a lot of gratitude on this side of the table. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 So before you got into this room, we were actually having a discussion. We wanted to make you feel comfortable in the studio.

Speaker 2 You know, you're just starting to do podcasts. We want you to be cool.
We want you to be yourself. Would you be more comfortable if we were all shirtless as well?

Speaker 2 Or would you like to be the only shirtless?

Speaker 1 This is...

Speaker 4 The greatest way I've ever started a podcast in the history of fucking podcasts. Not only would it make me more comfortable, but it makes you guys more primals, right? Because most people are born to.

Speaker 1 It definitely doesn't make me more comfortable. It makes you more primal, though.
I don't even think that's true either. It's true.
It just makes me be like, all right, cool.

Speaker 1 Everyone's going to be like, hey, look how fat this guy is. And I'm just like, all right.
And I also like, you know, don't you want me to be me? Should I be me or should I be you?

Speaker 4 What you don't understand is you

Speaker 4 being primal is your truest, most authentic self.

Speaker 1 Before we started wearing shirts, primal me has a shirt on.

Speaker 4 Listen, before we started wearing shirts, right, the truest expression of who we are, bare-chested is fucking. How were you born? With a shirt or without?

Speaker 1 I think I had a shirt on, yeah.

Speaker 4 The way that you were born is how you should rock it for the podcast.

Speaker 2 I had a chain on. I was wearing a necklace when I came out.

Speaker 1 What about?

Speaker 1 I would assume the primal part, and Billy has a lot of questions. So the primal part.

Speaker 4 Off with the shirts. Who's taking the fucking.
Yes, Billy fucking football.

Speaker 1 All right. Yes.
Yeah, I'll take it off. I did think, like, just you walking in here with our shirts off was just weird.

Speaker 4 We're making history.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not history. We've taken our shirts off many times.

Speaker 2 No, this is the first podcast ever done shirtless by guys.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hey, so.

Speaker 4 I guarantee you that the viewership's going through the roof right now.

Speaker 1 Definitely not. So the primal thing, is that no deodorant? Hell, no deodorant.

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, I noticed the musk.

Speaker 1 The musk is strong.

Speaker 1 It's strong musk.

Speaker 4 This is how a man is supposed to fucking smell. If everybody stopped wearing deodorant and perfumes, right, the new normal would be this fucking musk, right? Would be melted tar.

Speaker 2 Pheromones, right?

Speaker 1 So you're just, you're talking about France.

Speaker 4 that's not yeah i don't know if we want to be france but yeah okay so no no no beoderous stuff i agree on the france thing right but like those people are detoxing right the way the fucking badass american lives right you you you go fucking chop wood you go do hard fucking work multiple workouts a day the way that we eat the way that we sleep the way that we are fucking attitude there's a different smell to that There's a different smell.

Speaker 4 And pheromones is exactly what I'm talking about. If everybody's

Speaker 4 living a life like this, you get an attractive woman in here, right?

Speaker 1 You get her trying to fuck us.

Speaker 4 She's gonna close her eyes. She's gonna pick that fucking American because he smells like this.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so you said that you ate your former self. How did you taste?

Speaker 4 Oh, man, like strength.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like courage, like brute fucking force, right? I inherited all those qualities, right? But the whole thing is like, it's the growth mindset, right? Earlier, what I was alluding to, like,

Speaker 4 I call this primals, right? This is how we were born, right? And then somewhere along the way, we became mindlessly compliant. We became obedient.
We domesticated ourselves, right?

Speaker 4 We started standing in line. We started wearing shirts.
We started shaving our faces. We started putting on Santan fucking lotion, right? And for what?

Speaker 4 Because somebody fucking sold you on the idea, right? But our uninhibited, truest form, right? That's what a primal is.

Speaker 4 And it's the way that we speak, the way that we look bare-chested is an expression of what we believe.

Speaker 2 What about like medicine and shit, though, because we didn't, we weren't taking penicillin back then, but now we have stuff that doesn't let us die when we're 20.

Speaker 4 there's interesting things about about this related to this um i i like the acute medicine that we have today right but a lot of the long-term shit that we do is to our detriment like well um so let me let me tell you this people always make this criticism oh yeah you're promoting the ancestral living but our early ancestors lived to 30 on average this is what people say all the time stupid shit like this right and here's a fact is you call what we're doing today living You call going to a job that you hate, coming home to a life you don't love, putting on Netflix, sedating yourself just enough with medication to get hard and to be happy.

Speaker 4 Call that a day, call it a week, call it a month. This is your fucking life.
You call that living? This is how we exist today.

Speaker 1 Okay, but then on the flip side, like not everyone can be liver king, right? First of all,

Speaker 4 you have your liver king.

Speaker 1 We can't all be liver kings.

Speaker 11 Why not?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, if we had a world full of liver kings, I don't think it would work.
When you'd no longer be liver king, someone has to go to war.

Speaker 4 Everybody's born with the same primal potential to be a self-fucking made king, right? And so this is what, this is my job is to turn everybody into a fucking king.

Speaker 4 These nine ancestral tenants that I'm model teaching and preaching. I'm going to say it real quick.

Speaker 4 You'll never remember all of them, but it's sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight, and bond.

Speaker 1 What is, wait, what does ancestral tenants mean? Like the what, how did you come up with that?

Speaker 1 I should have asked that to begin because this is obviously what, you know, your website and everything that you're talking about. So how did you come up with all those?

Speaker 4 Yeah. First I came out up with it because my kids were sick as fuck.
They were taking ambulance trips to the hospital. They couldn't breathe.

Speaker 4 And then the hospital wouldn't release them because they still couldn't breathe. And so we had to give them EpiPens, Benadryl, you fucking name it.

Speaker 4 Like we didn't know what was going to happen to our kids. So out of medical necessity, we figured out, hey, enough is a fucking up, right? Nobody has the answer.
I'm going to go figure this shit out.

Speaker 4 I stumbled upon this whole idea that there's these forces that shaped us to become the baddest fucking mammalian predators that ever lived, right? Genus Homo. This is us.

Speaker 4 And we've done something since then. We started eating processed food.
We no longer connect with the sun. We no longer connect with each other.
You guys know the electricity that you feel in here.

Speaker 4 When you connect with each other, you connect with a guest, you put down the fucking phone, right?

Speaker 4 So sleep, eat, move, these nine ancestral tenants is a way that I organized this sort of ancestral living. It's the way that early ancestors lived.

Speaker 4 It's the way that modern day primitive culture tribes live. I've gone and visited with six primitive culture tribes in the Amazon and in Africa.

Speaker 4 So out of first principle thinking, because you don't have to go visit with guys to say, hey, we evolved getting sun, right? You know that. Right.

Speaker 1 And then you don't have to. I mean, everyone, we know that they had to eat.
Right. Exactly.

Speaker 4 And what did they eat? It wasn't processed food, right? And so then I went to visit with these primitive culture tribes to say, hey, is my thesis accurate? Is there something I've got wrong? Right?

Speaker 4 Did we not connect our bare feet to the ground? Right. With the advent of modern-day shoes, elevated beds, buildings, and cars, we hardly ever come in contact with the earth anymore.

Speaker 4 When's the last time you had your bare feet connected to the ground?

Speaker 2 I played tennis at Big Cat's summer house, and I took my shoes off.

Speaker 1 I got social with it on the play. Yeah, it was nice.

Speaker 4 That is a big deal.

Speaker 4 What about you?

Speaker 4 I think it was yesterday.

Speaker 2 I was out. Billy got dunked on so hard that his face rubbed against the ground.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm not going to lie, Liver King, like, the musk is kind of growing on me.
This is kind of fucked up that, like, I don't hate it anymore.

Speaker 4 And we need to all smell like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know about that part, but, like, it is kind of

Speaker 1 strong, but it's growing on me.

Speaker 4 It's how real fucking man smells.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so what would happen right now if I adapted like full-on the primal lifestyle?

Speaker 2 If I ate everything you eat, if I just like shocked my body into that, I'll give you like a little example because like where I'm at right now is

Speaker 2 last night I drank a Coke for dinner. I had soup that I ordered in.
This morning I had Taco Bell breakfast and two cups of coffee.

Speaker 2 So like I'm not, my body is full on just like stereotypical American diet right now. If I were to do the primal lifestyle, what would happen?

Speaker 4 First of all, everything there is subprimal, right?

Speaker 4 And if you start immediately with a primal lifestyle, first of all, you're going to smell like shit at first because you're going to detox all that nasty shit you've been eating.

Speaker 4 And then after that, that, you're going to smell like me. But more importantly, just think about this.
Eat is only one of the nine ancestral tenants. You fix the way you eat.

Speaker 4 My name is Liver King because there's one major thing you can do, a major lever you can pull. Start eating liver right away.

Speaker 1 Can you give it? No, no, about that. Do you have it like in pills so I don't have to actually eat it?

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Number one, yeah.

Speaker 4 Number two, where's the food? Where are my presents?

Speaker 1 Do we have presents in here?

Speaker 4 Guys, somebody bring the fucking presents. Okay.

Speaker 1 Liver King rolls with like, you have like 20 people with you.

Speaker 1 it's deep. This is how a king lives, yeah.

Speaker 4 This is how a king lives. Um, so what's gonna happen is you're gonna express a higher and more dominant form, right?

Speaker 4 Um, I don't know if you consider yourself an eight, nine, or ten right now, but you're gonna level up and then you're gonna attract your complementary opposite.

Speaker 4 So, whether you pull eight, nines, or tens right now, you're gonna level that shit up too, right? Because a king pulls a queen. So, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 4 You're gonna express a higher, more dominant form. You're gonna progress in life, you're gonna be happier in life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got the liver and stuff.

Speaker 2 Is this liver coming in here?

Speaker 1 This is the present,

Speaker 1 Okay. We have some of the primal foods on here.
We got some raw testicles. We got raw spleen.
We got bone marrow.

Speaker 4 We got raw heart, raw kidney, and of course we have liver.

Speaker 2 Okay, so the good news is Billy really wants to try all this stuff. That's why we brought it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, yeah. He's going to try it all.
Why doesn't the rest of your team have their shirts off?

Speaker 4 You know what? There can only be one king.

Speaker 1 Right, but isn't the like whole primal like there no one else is living their primal life?

Speaker 12 You know what? From now on, nobody in the fucking tribe.

Speaker 4 wants to be.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that. I like it.
Because I don't know. I'm just curious.
Like, the people that you have around you, are they doing everything that you do, or have they not bought all the way in?

Speaker 4 Is it just a nine-to-five for them, kind of? My inner circle tribe, everyone in my family, liver queen, liver boys, they all live exactly the same way I do. Just different proportion.

Speaker 4 The guys that are doing the nine to five, there may not be full primal. They're somewhere in the middle.
Yep. But I really want to answer your question.
Your life's going to be happier.

Speaker 4 Your life's going to be more fulfilled. I don't know if you...

Speaker 4 Hey, we got to get at least a piece of liver to these guys because they're already primal. Let's at least least get them a piece of liver.

Speaker 2 Which one's the liver? Right underneath liver king.

Speaker 2 Which one's the liver here?

Speaker 4 Right underneath liver king.

Speaker 1 Totier's right.

Speaker 1 This that's the liver? Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 The testicle tastes the best. Did you have you seen Silence of the Lambs?

Speaker 4 When I was little, and you don't need to use a fucking toothpick, man. Just grab that shit with your.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go primal. I'll just use it.

Speaker 1 Is it bad?

Speaker 4 We got a self-primal puke bucket.

Speaker 1 I drink the water.

Speaker 1 What's what's which one's the liver?

Speaker 1 Closest to your right hand. This one this one right there.
Okay,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 4 I bet you he does it no fucking problem

Speaker 4 Yeah, and you can't be giving it to everyone else

Speaker 1 Cheers my man can I wet my finger

Speaker 1 on your hand

Speaker 1 That's not that bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 I kind of like it

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's kind of sweet. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm a I'm a liver king now.

Speaker 4 And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's it.

Speaker 1 When does my six-pack show up? I actually didn't hate that. Like, I wasn't.

Speaker 4 It's on the way. That was fine.

Speaker 4 And most people that need the nourishment the most

Speaker 4 are going to feel stuff. And if you have trouble eating that, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 Everybody, how was it for you, Billy? It was good.

Speaker 8 It was good. Yeah, I take it down like an oyster.

Speaker 1 Because he was like, I just shoot it. It was, I mean, it's like, I mean, it's basically

Speaker 1 raw meat, right? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a liver king. Fuck it.
Who cares?

Speaker 4 And so everybody has to get this in their life, right? We recently took the nose-to-tail nourishment out of our diet, right?

Speaker 4 Since the inception of our time, we've always hunted the animal and we've had the whole animal, nose to tail, bones to blood, horns to hooves. We just recently took this out.

Speaker 4 We need to get this shit back in our diet. And some people, it's tough to do, right?

Speaker 4 They don't want to fucking put it down the gullet. So there's an option.
There's another option.

Speaker 1 It's called whole beast.

Speaker 4 I have a whole beast protein shake. It has liver, heart, pancreas, spleen, colostrum, blood is in it.
You just drink that? You just drink it.

Speaker 1 Oh, we popped that in. Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 I'll do the shake. I can take anything down in a shake.

Speaker 4 And I can't wait to see what you think of it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this is the whole beast shake.

Speaker 4 Is this an actual bone that's in here?

Speaker 1 What is this?

Speaker 4 It makes it more primal.

Speaker 1 You got one for Billy Football?

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. Oh, good.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 That's awesome. That's the whole beast.
I'm going to plug it. That's the whole beast.

Speaker 1 That's easy. Hell yeah.
Well, the liver was easy, too. That actually tasted good.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 So I just want to say it again, listen, guys. In there, there's liver, heart, pancreas, spleen, kidney, and colostrum, and plenty of protein.

Speaker 1 So I don't eat lunch now or what?

Speaker 4 You know what? I wouldn't eat lunch unless you earn it. If you earn it, go eat lunch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got to hunt it first, right?

Speaker 2 So tell me about the simulated hunts. What goes into a successful simulated hunt?

Speaker 4 I appreciate you asking. This is one of the most important points I think I could get across.
Imagine if we all did 100 push-ups before anything went into our mouths. Right?

Speaker 4 Because this is what our early ancestors did.

Speaker 1 I would never eat.

Speaker 4 But you would eat.

Speaker 1 You get hungry enough. When's the last time you were hungry? You're die.

Speaker 4 When's the last time you were hungry?

Speaker 1 Every day. You get really fucking hungry? Every day.
I'm always hungry. I could always eat.
That's my motto. Well, here's the thing.
Big cat. He can always eat.

Speaker 4 Our early ancestors had to work for their food.

Speaker 4 Either on a hunt or if they got a big animal, they still had to butcher the animal. They still had to go out of camp to do these things, right?

Speaker 4 At the first,

Speaker 4 like we've... never done this before in the history of our being, that we've had food just an arm's length away.

Speaker 4 In the refrigerator, there's an app to to get us food today right so the simulated successful hunt is honoring the struggle of our early ancestors so that we can honor and express our own genetic fitness it's called getting to fucking work before you start mindlessly piling shit down your down your fucking throat i i see people in the car you ever see guys in the car eating mindlessly eating

Speaker 1 yeah in the rear view no that's a rule that's a rule dude they count in double no they don't I'm here to fucking say officially they count in double because you do it you get the fries for the way home you get a fucking you know a car fries and then you get home and you're like oh we got fries for everyone but you already ate an extra one in the car listen the guy who's lots

Speaker 4 whoever's ripped i'll listen to that guy about this but this is what the simulated successful hunt is because successful in the hunt we had to put forth some real effort right and and that enables us to express a higher and more dominant physical form yeah right and i'm telling you like if you just put forth a little bit of work you don't got to do 100 push-ups every time pick a number pick 40 pit pick 50 how much you want to bet just two two or three minutes worth of work right before you have breakfast lunch and or dinner it's gonna change the trajectory of your life okay so when we were on we were going on a cross-country trip to the super bowl and we got stuck in arkansas and we walked like a quarter of a mile to a sonic and we said like okay this is a simulated hunt and then we ordered sonic drive-through we sat down we ate our fast food does that count 100 okay cool i like that okay so all right here's another question i we're gonna get to billy in a sec because he has a lot of questions but like so I'm no shock to you.

Speaker 1 I'm not like big into fitness, they may say. So I'm not like super familiar with everything you got going on.
What do the critics say? Like, what do people who don't like Liver King say?

Speaker 1 And how do you respond to him? Because I honestly don't know. Like, if some people are like, oh, this guy's full of shit for this reason, that reason.

Speaker 4 Like, what do they say?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 There's a few things I'll share back there. Number one, this is the vocal minority.
right the overwhelming amount of primals are are so excited right?

Speaker 4 Because they recognize the opportunity to live a better life. So, this is a vocal minority.
Number two, I don't know how they can hate on their own species so much, right?

Speaker 4 This is not really something I invented, right?

Speaker 1 These are our ancestors.

Speaker 4 These are your ancestors, right? And number three, you know,

Speaker 4 look at how desperately the world is hurting today. What I would say back to the haters, the critics, the conventional thinkers is, you had your fucking time.
You had your chance.

Speaker 4 It didn't fucking work. 80% of the population is struggling living paycheck to paycheck, right?

Speaker 4 We're a status-seeking society we think we can express our worth value and potential by going to buy shit at the mall hey look how valuable I am right so we're struggling paycheck to paycheck 80% 70% overweight half are obese 50% on medication 40% have cancer or we'll get cancer 40% will get cancer or have cancer that's a big fucking deal one out of five kids this big is on a prescription medicine so what I have to say back to the haters to the critics you had your fucking time you had your chance this is my time and by saying it's my time it's my time to bring back the ways of our early ancestors.

Speaker 4 It costs virtually nothing. You can start doing it today.
It'll change your life tomorrow, right? Because there's kids out there, like my own kids, that deserve a better shot at life.

Speaker 4 I was doing Barbarian across the Brooklyn Bridge. This guy, Saul, ran across, young guy.
He said, Liver King, Liver King. Hey, man, it's Saul.
It's Saul from Instagram.

Speaker 4 I'm the guy who lost 60 pounds because of you. I stopped drinking alcohol.
I've reconnected with the outside world with confidence for the first time since I can remember.

Speaker 4 I got a primal named cat that couldn't have kids. She adopted the ancestral lifestyle.
After two two years of infertility treatment, she birthed a child, right?

Speaker 4 This other guy, Ben, this other primal Ben had an HSCRP over 100, hospitalized, bleeding out of his ass with intractable Crohn's disease, adopted the ancestral lifestyle.

Speaker 4 He's fucking kicking ass in life and running companies. This is what I have to, I'm done, right? This is what I have to say to the haters in the world.

Speaker 1 So I guess my only response would be like, is there a, because

Speaker 1 what you're saying, actually, there are pieces to it that I agree with. There's a lot of, and I'm, I'm part of the problem.
I sit on my ass all the time. Like, like we as a

Speaker 1 world need to probably be outside more do more activities like tv and all that and video games has kind of taken away like we pft and i always joke we're both 37 like we we didn't have full video games, cell phones, TVs when we were like, you know, seven years old.

Speaker 1 And that helped us because like we went out and played. You know what I mean? I don't know.
I have two kids.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck they're going to do when they're seven years old and there's video games and all these things.

Speaker 1 But there's got to be be a halfway right because you can't have not everyone go full primal

Speaker 4 this whole thing is on a continuum okay i'm still getting better right right if i'm the same piece of shit next year that i am today i've i'm a catastrophic failure right growth is the way of life progression is the way of life right additional responsibility progress is happiness right so start somewhere start with liver This is going to give you more energy.

Speaker 4 This is the currency of life. This is going to give you the drive to take massive fucking action to dominate in life.
Start with liver.

Speaker 1 Learn how to. You can have the pills, though.
I mean, I didn't hate the pillow.

Speaker 4 You can have the fucking pills. You can have the whole beast.

Speaker 1 Right. Listen,

Speaker 4 there's a company called Ancestral Supplements. There's a company called Heart and Soil Supplements.
The fittest supplements. These are my companies, by the way.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I did that. There's a company.
There's a podcast called Pardon My Take.

Speaker 4 And all I care about is this.

Speaker 4 There's a continuum. I say, go on a hunt.
When you have that connection with the land, when you can go out and walk and stalk.

Speaker 4 for 15 miles and you're stalking an animal and you learn about to read the wind when you learn to read the land there's no video game that does this for you.

Speaker 4 This, this is why hunters love to fucking hunt. If you can go on a hunt, go on a hunt.
If you can't do that, go to a farmer's market, go to your butcher, go to the grocery store.

Speaker 4 If you're not going to do any of that, I got a fucking easy option for you. I got something you don't have to taste.
I got a pill for you, right?

Speaker 4 This is the low-hanging fruit because you've got to get this nourishment in your diet. I'm telling you, this is going to give you more energy.
It's going to set you off on a different trajectory.

Speaker 4 Start lifting heavy shit after that. This whole thing is on a continuum.

Speaker 4 You're not going to go from playing video games, watching TV, being a complete subprimal to to being a full fucking primal barbarian fucking king.

Speaker 4 This whole thing lives on a continuum as long as you commit to the growth mindset. Tune into my stories, man.
If you tune into my stories, you're going to get this sort of message every day.

Speaker 4 There's a Liver King philosophy, and it's about just making progress. Not perfection, but progress.

Speaker 4 And along the way, you're going to say, holy fucking shit, I didn't know a life like this was possible. Let me tell you this story: how primitive culture tribes live.

Speaker 4 They're the happiest people you'll ever meet. They got no material, no video games, no material possessions.

Speaker 1 They have football, they have NFL? They got no.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 imagine having what they have, but also having football.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, now I'm in.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah, go back.

Speaker 4 And so

Speaker 4 let me tell you, we're on a hunt with the Machagenga tribe. They go to shoot a monkey.
The arrow comes back down, and the broad side of it strikes my camera guy in the side.

Speaker 4 It doesn't pierce him, but hits him, right? Close fucking call. They laugh their asses off.
This is the funniest thing they've seen all day, right?

Speaker 4 The electricity, the chemistry, the culture that these guys have, the fulfillment that they have, no material possessions, right? And they're loving life. So they got something figured out.

Speaker 4 By default, they're living all nine ancestral tenants. Bring football into that.
Football is almost as primal.

Speaker 1 It's the 10th tenant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm with that. Okay.

Speaker 4 So the 10th tenant is actually whatever the fuck I want it to be that fits their narrative for the moment.

Speaker 4 But more importantly, what people need to realize is sport and football, the more fucking, you know, the bigger the consequence, the more primal it is.

Speaker 4 This is a primal expression, a true authentic expression of who we fucking have always been and who we are football is almost as primal as it fucking gets for good reason right so yes football okay good i'm in uh so i had one last question before billy jumps in uh how much blood do you drink oh good question a lot every time i go out to liver king ranch uh we harvest some blood but you don't live there uh i i i have a couple of ranches okay all right where do you live liver king

Speaker 1 is that

Speaker 1 i like the branding the branding is give a castle yeah uh i yeah liver king castle and then liver Ranch. Like I said, you're great at branding.

Speaker 4 So I call it Liverking Cave. We live on the lake on 20 minutes.
Okay, Cave is Cave.

Speaker 1 Nice. I like that.

Speaker 4 35 minutes north. We got Liver King Ranch.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 I'll adapt some of these ancestral tenants if you just, if you meet me halfway and you, because I feel like you would really love...

Speaker 2 adopting some of our tenants and like experiencing some of the joys that we get from our lifestyle.

Speaker 2 Like if you go to Cinnabon once a month or something like that, go to a mall, hit the food court for a second. I'm down.

Speaker 4 Let me tell tell you why I'm down. Ancestral tenant for a shield, right? If you've built a more biologically robust being and you want some fucking poison, have some fucking poison.

Speaker 4 I have poison every Saturday. I poison myself every Saturday.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 11 Cheat day.

Speaker 4 So, so, um, I don't even call it a cheat day, right? This is called deep poison.

Speaker 1 And you know what?

Speaker 4 I deepen the bond with whoever the fuck I'm with, right? It expands the proportion of my living. I never shrink back to the original side.
The benefits far exceed the consequences. I'm down.

Speaker 4 Let's fucking go to whatever that place is you said.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that that came up because I think a lot of times when it comes to

Speaker 1 influencers, fitness people online, a lot of it is like

Speaker 1 you can't have every day be like, I'm lifting all these weights and I'm eating perfect. You know what I mean? So there's got to be honesty there.
I appreciate that like there is a poison.

Speaker 4 And the message is go earn that shit. Right.
Because when you earn that shit in life, when you've completed a real rite of passage.

Speaker 1 It feels good. You're right.
You're absolutely right. When you like work out really hard and then you have a good meal, it feels good.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What's poison for you?

Speaker 4 What is poison day? Yeah, what do you poison for you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, what's poison day day look like alcohol and mushrooms oh yeah okay yeah i'm in yeah that's the 11th life cell right here you know i'll i'll spend 10 hours with liver queen at the top of our fucking mountain and there's nothing better you have a mountain well i call it it's a metaphorical mountain oh okay

Speaker 1 it's a metaphorical

Speaker 4 i mean your life is wild so like i don't know when you say you have a mountain i'm like oh he's got a fucking mountain yeah but listen i'm with a messiah they're drinking blood i had never had blood before right if i'm with a messiah i drink blood if i'm with you i'll do what you do because an ancestral 10 and eight is bond, right?

Speaker 4 I'm going to bond with you guys. I'm going to bond with these guys.
The benefits far eclipse any of the cons. So I'm down.
You adopt some of them. Let's meet each other halfway.

Speaker 2 I like that. We're going to get back to Liver King in a second.
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Speaker 2 We've got tons of questions.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm sure they're all great.

Speaker 8 Love you. Love your stuff.
Love all the tenants. I want to get into a couple of the other tenants.
But first,

Speaker 8 we had on the show a couple weeks ago John Sally, who's a very outspoken vegan, and he was very critical of any sort of carnivorous consumption against meat, saying that meat eaters are scavengers and they're eating rotting flesh.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 8 And I want to see your sort of the flip side to that argument of why just solely a plant-based diet is detrimental and doesn't, you know, live up to your true primal ancestral self.

Speaker 4 First of all, was he wearing a shirt?

Speaker 1 No. How did he look? No, no, he was wearing a shirt.
I mean,

Speaker 1 he's in very good shape for his age, and he also has Billy's, like, he's got multiple NBA championship rings. And how long? He was a NBA player.

Speaker 4 Did he play for the Pistons? Yes.

Speaker 1 I know who he is. I mean,

Speaker 1 I grew up in the agenda. He played for the Bulls, played for all over the place.

Speaker 4 So, how long has he been vegan?

Speaker 8 I think a good 30 years. 20 years.

Speaker 1 Oh, no way.

Speaker 4 You didn't ask him, did you?

Speaker 1 No, it was like he said about 20 years.

Speaker 1 Because he said that the last time he ate meat was when his wife was pregnant with his kid, who I think was like late teens, 20s.

Speaker 4 He would probably still be playing in the NBA if he wasn't vegan.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's like 66.

Speaker 4 This is my counter. This is my counter.
The name is Liver King because liver is king. If you want to be an alpha organism, kicking ass in fucking life, do what other alpha organisms do.

Speaker 4 The ultimate predator of the ocean is a killer whale. You know what they fucking rip open?

Speaker 4 Great white sharks.

Speaker 4 They rip open great white sharks and they go for the liver first right if you look at a pack of lines what do they go for first the liver modern day primitive culture tribes they go for the liver first so all i'm saying this is pretty fucking simple if you want to be an alpha organism kicking ass in life do what other alpha organisms do right now if you're a vegan kicking ass in life go fucking be a vegan go kick ass in life but how much you want to bet those vegans have to supplement with things right they got to get real vitamin a not the carotenoids they got to get real retinol pre-formed vitamin a or they're going to be deficient they need to get choline.

Speaker 4 They need to get riboflamin. They got to get vitamin B12, all this stuff that really only comes in animal foods, right? So I have no problem with vegans, right?

Speaker 4 If you're kicking ass in life and you're vegan, go fucking kick ass in life. But I'll tell you right now, very few of them are kicking ass in life.
And many of them will come into my ecosystem.

Speaker 4 Hey, you can still call yourself a vegan if you want, right? And they ask for help, supplementing. And so that's what I would say back is you can look back since the inception of our being.

Speaker 4 Yes, we were scavengers, right? We would wait for the coast to be clear. The alpha predators would do their thing, right? Then we'd have a skeleton.

Speaker 4 And then we would go and we would harvest the craniums and the femur bones. And we learned with percussion technology how to crack that shit open.
We would take out the brains.

Speaker 4 This is what made us fucking human in the first place, right? We were scavengers.

Speaker 4 We were meant to eat rotting fucking meat.

Speaker 4 And today, you know, for some movement unbeknownst to me, right? I mean, moral issues, ethical issues, if you got a real ethical issue with it,

Speaker 4 I can get behind that, right? Because you give a shit. We need more people that fucking give a shit.
So for that reason, I think he's an alpha, right?

Speaker 4 But for the reason that history's not on your side, right? And for vegans that are kicking ass in life, I'm like, how much fucking better could you be? if you were carnivorous.

Speaker 4 You don't even have to be carnivorous.

Speaker 2 It's like vegans are so close. They just need to switch to a diet of all meat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to beat it. And then they'll be perfect.
Yeah. They have the discipline that you need.
They just have to flip it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 4 And this is what people don't realize. Most vegans have taken this stance to go live a better life.
Right. Most people aren't doing shit.
Right. So vegan, like, we're both on the same trajectory.

Speaker 4 Hey, we want to live a better life. And we know that health is where it's at.
So tip of the fucking hat to guys like that. But I think it's dangerous.
And I think that that danger needs correction.

Speaker 4 We don't need science to bear this out, even though science does.

Speaker 2 I've got a dumb question, Liver King.

Speaker 2 Why do we want to be alphas? Isn't it easier sometimes to just be a beta, to like fly under the radar, not make too much noise? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Go about your day?

Speaker 2 Like, there's a lot of really, really happy betas out there.

Speaker 4 I would

Speaker 4 push back. I challenge that.
I don't think they're that happy.

Speaker 1 I mean, Billy's pretty happy.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 I would say, Billy, how much you bench?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 1 Around 285. I think 255.
280. Same as me.
He's a happy guy, though. Like, he comes in and he does his job and he's happy.
And he's a beta. That's a compliment.

Speaker 4 Do you absolutely love your job? I do. And what about the home life you go home to? What's at home?

Speaker 8 A dog and a hedgehog and a man named Ben Mintz

Speaker 1 who lives next to me.

Speaker 4 Well, let me say this. You might be the exception, but what I know is this.
You're the exception.

Speaker 1 You're the only beta that's happy in this world.

Speaker 4 You're probably alpha beta, right?

Speaker 4 We're all meant for more in life.

Speaker 2 Oh, I like alpha beta. I like the sound of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're just a stronger level of beta.

Speaker 2 Is there such a thing as alpha beta?

Speaker 4 We just invented it.

Speaker 2 I think that's what people should aspire to. Because really what you're asking people to do is like, obviously, nobody's going to become liver king.
We're not going to get into your body.

Speaker 2 We're not going to be able to adopt a full, like, raw liver lifestyle, but we can make small steps to make ourselves a little bit better, and then we're the alpha betas. Right.

Speaker 4 That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 Once again, it's all about progress, right?

Speaker 4 Tony Robbins said this. Happiness is one word.
This is fucking progress, right? And not everybody starts as an alpha king. By the way, if we do takeies again, can we have a new category?

Speaker 4 The alpha king. Yeah.
And it may be just athletes from like king sports organizations. We do take these every year?

Speaker 1 L.A.

Speaker 4 Kings, Sacramento Kings. Anyone with the last name?

Speaker 1 Alpha King. Matthew Delvadova.

Speaker 4 There we go. And here's the thing.
I will sponsor that section.

Speaker 4 That segment, I'll sponsor $50.

Speaker 1 $50,000 is a going rate. $50,000,

Speaker 1 that's what the article said the other day, the New York Times article. For every takeie? No, it was like there was an article that people are paying to come on podcasts.

Speaker 1 Actually, people will probably accuse you of paying us to come on this podcast we, for the record, wanted you on. But yeah, there's a lot of people.

Speaker 4 They're giving me a whole handful of cash before.

Speaker 1 There's a whole industry of people paying to appear on other people's podcasts.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is ridiculous. All these ridiculous accusations.
People say I take PEDs. People say I have ab implants.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 Can we be honest? Like, you definitely take PEDs.

Speaker 4 You know what? Fuck it. I'm going to be on for the.

Speaker 1 I'll be. Here we go.

Speaker 4 I take PEDs. Yeah.
I prioritize, execute, and dominate.

Speaker 4 Every fucking morning.

Speaker 1 Every morning.

Speaker 1 But let me finish. I take PEDs.

Speaker 2 I pray every day.

Speaker 4 So we both fucking take PEDs. Here we go.

Speaker 1 The whole world should take PEDs.

Speaker 1 I'm on Windstraw.

Speaker 1 Don't know much a whole lot about that.

Speaker 4 But people say the same thing. I got AB implants, right? Or AB Etching.
I got him.

Speaker 1 You can get ab implants? That's definitely what Hank's.

Speaker 1 Hank's got to get his six-pack. I'll pay for Hank's surgery.
Our other producer, who's not here right now, because he's now a suit and he hates his life. He's actually the true beta.

Speaker 1 Like when you say the nine-to-five guy who goes and hates his life, that's who you're talking about, Hank. He's convinced he can get a six-pack.
I think I'm going to pay for his ab implants.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at ab implants right now.

Speaker 11 They look pretty good.

Speaker 1 I might have to go.

Speaker 2 Wait, the third image result on ab implants is you.

Speaker 1 This is good. I love it.
I love it, right?

Speaker 4 And then after that, it was, hey, he has hair implants, right?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 when I first went on social media, I was always wearing a hat, right?

Speaker 4 And then sometimes I don't wear a hat, and people are like, hey, you know, you're bald because you're taking PEDs. And then you got hair.
So the accusations will always come.

Speaker 4 I want to set the record straight. In 2018, I went to Singapore and I got gene editing done.

Speaker 4 I modified my myostatin gene, right? And this is actually the truth. I was the first human to ever do it.
It's always been. Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you serious?

Speaker 4 This is how these funny accusations are.

Speaker 1 Boy, are you serious or no? I'm completely fucking around.

Speaker 1 Because what you did there is you made a joke, but we don't know what you're talking about, except Billy. Like, when you said that, I was like, what does that mean? And Billy was super excited.

Speaker 4 This is CRISPR, right?

Speaker 4 And so, again, the ancestral tenant right now is have a little fucking fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah. right?

Speaker 4 Let these accusations fly. You know what? You gave me a hundred K.

Speaker 1 I gave you a hundred K to come on the right.

Speaker 4 You did, you know, and then hopefully you already paid for the ab implants for Hank.

Speaker 1 That's right. When Hank gets a six-pack, it's like Liver King did that.

Speaker 4 And then I get a free pass on the Alpha King segment. Yeah.
And again, there's no bias going into this, but how much you want to bet I win the first year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be good.

Speaker 2 Do you want to sponsor Hank's body?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you should. What's going on with that? He's, he's.

Speaker 1 So, like, all right, we're in various states. PFT works out.
I try to, I play basketball.

Speaker 7 He works at, Billy works out.

Speaker 1 Hank says he's going to get a six-pack. Not really.
We're all like, you know, we're trying to be our primal self sometimes.

Speaker 1 But Hank is like, he's like, yeah, I'm going to get a six-pack. He's been saying it for years, and he hasn't even come close.

Speaker 4 What's he doing to get the six-pack?

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 8 Hank just moved in a block away from me. He was here there like right after the show last night.
If we get him on the Liver King diet supplements, then I'll get him to work out.

Speaker 1 I actually think

Speaker 4 anything manly is going to increase your testosterone. But let me say, you know, I'm joking about that.

Speaker 4 The reality of it is all nine ancestral tenants signal something epigenetically so that we can express a higher, more dominant form, right? You sleep like shit, you're going to tank your hormones.

Speaker 4 Your testosterone's in half, right? If you eat like shit, you're going to tank your testosterone. If you move like shit, you're going to tank your testosterone.

Speaker 4 The fourth ancestral tenant is shield, right? If you keep your cell phone next to your dick and balls.

Speaker 4 If you wear petrochemical clothing, right? If you wear xenoestrogen-laden perfumes.

Speaker 1 This is where I get a little lost. Well, I'm going to say what that means.

Speaker 4 It's wearing synthetic clothes.

Speaker 4 If you wear non-native stuff, perfumes, deodorants, shit, that's not fucking native. You're going to tank your testosterone.
Your estrogen goes up. You have less muscle, more fat.

Speaker 4 You want to rock a fucking six-pack virtually effortlessly. Nine ancestral tenants are going to get you there.

Speaker 4 Again, people are like, hey, what's the easiest, fastest way to get a six-pack? And I start laughing. Like, why has it got to be easy? Right.

Speaker 1 Why has it got to be?

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 It's hard, but it's almost effortless if you're doing the nine ancestral tenants.

Speaker 4 And then when you've earned it, what in life do you have that you really value that was just given to you that you haven't earned? Right.

Speaker 4 And now you can express real status, real worth, real potential. You want to fucking rock, you know, without a tarp all the time.
Hey, this is who I am, right?

Speaker 1 I'm better than you.

Speaker 4 Who's the alpha in the fucking room? Let's look around. Right.
And the real alpha is not the guy that expresses his highest and most dominant form physically, right?

Speaker 4 It's the real fucking king that can create and shape the exact life that he wants to live.

Speaker 4 And when you understand that process and you can do that socially, emotionally, in relationships as a fucking entrepreneur, you can say, I'm going to go start a new business.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a hundred million dollar a year fucking business, right? I want to do this thing with this relationship, right? That's what that's what the most dangerous man in the room does, right?

Speaker 4 It's not the strongest guy in the room, right? Think, hey, we're going to go fucking fight, right? And that's going to make me alpha because I'm going to kick your ass.

Speaker 1 But what if you get subdued? Billy does think that. Yeah.
He's young, though. Like when you're 23, you're like, if I'm the toughest, I'm the alpha.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, you got to have the confidence is usually the alpha.

Speaker 4 Well, what it really boils down to is most younger guys, they want to fight. They think that's alpha, right? A real king is fighting for that guy.

Speaker 4 A real king unites.

Speaker 1 We are the real kings because we're advocating Billy.

Speaker 1 Employed.

Speaker 4 You guys are the real fucking guy.

Speaker 12 We're giving this young buck guidance.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Every day they're like, we got to get rid of Billy.
We're like, no, we're not getting rid of him. So we're the real king.

Speaker 2 Billy, we want you to grow strong into the role that we have now. We're showing you the way.

Speaker 1 I'm a king.

Speaker 1 This is totally aside. It would be be really funny if you had the beard because you had like a really fat double chin oh

Speaker 4 i don't know i just thought of that like if you were because you were talking about your hair and everything it's like liver king actually has like a sick double chin and his face is fat that's why people ask me this is probably a top 10 question i don't know if that's one of your questions what's the fucking deal with a beard right and and i start laughing i'm like what's the deal with my beard what's the deal with you a man paying another man to buy his disposable razor blades his shaving cream his aftershave all so he can look less like like his fucking wild self he was born to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you want to look more like your wife? That's what people are saying when they shave, right?

Speaker 4 Hey, you said it, right?

Speaker 1 You said it.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing, I got a fucking job to do, right? And so to do my job, I got to be my most authentic fucking self, right?

Speaker 4 And people also accuse me of shaving my chest. They're like, hey, you don't shave your beard, but I don't fucking shave my chest.
I don't shave shit. Once a year, I fucking give the face a trim.

Speaker 4 My wife does with a machete, by the way.

Speaker 4 We got a video on it.

Speaker 4 But that's the thing, man.

Speaker 4 You got to really trust her if she's got a machete to your neck yeah man yeah i do and also that also keeps you in line throughout the year knowing like hey machete if i step out she's got the machete that's right you know and queens do this off with a fucking head hey man you you betray my family right i'm a real fucking nice guy like a king like i always say this you know whatever you say to me they're just words right there's it's something audible it's energy it's a vibration going into my eardrum my brain has to assign meaning to it you you i'm bulletproof you can't fucking insult me my wife on the other hand right?

Speaker 4 You say something, you do something. It's off with a fucking head.
Yeah. It's off with a fucking head.

Speaker 1 Loyalty above all.

Speaker 1 I won't say what Billy said about the liver queen before this.

Speaker 1 But hey, let's talk. You know, I will sponsor Hank's body, his fucking body.

Speaker 1 I'll help him out. Okay.
I'll help him out.

Speaker 4 Because here's the thing. Most people are putting forth this effort and they're just spinning their fucking wheels.
And there's a better way to fucking do it. Hank wants to do it.

Speaker 1 He wants to have a six-pack.

Speaker 2 And I think with your guidance, he can get one.

Speaker 2 I was talking to another employee that we have here, Uncle Chaps. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him.
He actually put me on to you a long time ago. He's been, he's a primal for sure.

Speaker 2 And he wanted me to ask you what your favorite testicle was because I know that you eat a lot of testicles. Which one tastes the best? Actually, if you could rank them, we have a scale here.

Speaker 2 It's the balls scale. So it's ranked one through five.
If you could rank each testicle on the balls scale of one to five, each testicle.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 You know what? Half the animals' testicles that I've eaten, I don't even know what kind of animal they are.

Speaker 2 You just know they're nuts and you're like, let's do this.

Speaker 4 That's right. And I'll tell you, some are way better than others.
I know you guys are going to think this might sound a certain way, right? But some are really delicious and creamy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Paws.

Speaker 4 Some of them.

Speaker 1 What'd you say? Paws.

Speaker 4 Some of them are really chewy. I mean, it just depends.

Speaker 4 The kind I eat virtually every day is just a cow test, a bull testicle. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's the kind I have every day. But when we go on a hunt, of course, one of the first things we do is we eat the testicle.
And some of them, I mean, they're really different, right?

Speaker 4 But I would say on a scale one through 10 or 1 through 5,

Speaker 4 testicles don't taste great.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They don't fucking taste great.
Okay, I like that honesty because

Speaker 1 that's where I'm liking you, Liver King, because you're actually being honest.

Speaker 1 Like if you came in here and you're like, testicles are better than a cheeseburger, I'd be like, dude, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 No, a double fucking bacon cheeseburger.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. So then we can meet.
We're meeting halfway. All right.
So, Billy, you got more questions?

Speaker 11 Find a way.

Speaker 8 So all of your nose-to-tail products come come from cattle on your ranch is that correct no oh okay did that ruin the question

Speaker 4 no i'm just wondering i'm just wondering are you are the cows you use organic oh so number one they're beyond organic right that most of the cows that we harvest the organs nose to tail from new zealand it's a standard the animal husbandry in new zealand is is incredible it's pristine um they they uh they can't afford to not grass feed them.

Speaker 4 It's just the way it's always been.

Speaker 4 So that's where almost all of the organs and glands come from are from New Zealand.

Speaker 4 We're right now establishing a domestic supply chain that will all be the equivalent of organic, which you would consider organic.

Speaker 8 Next question, getting on your ancestral tenant regarding sleep, and especially, I know you have a certain like sleep sanitation where you have a certain mattress, your whole room is a certain way.

Speaker 8 Could you expand more on that and how that could benefit someone who works in a very

Speaker 8 internet company? So the separation of trying to get that good, deep sleep.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'll try to make this as basic as possible. So Ancestral Tenant Four Shield, right? We don't keep the cell phone next to our dick and balls, right?

Speaker 4 You don't even allow our cell phones or anyone to bring a cell phone in the cave, period. But this is not practical for people, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, you guys probably have Wi-Fi, you probably have your cell phones, you probably have EMFs and radio signals and you fucking name it all around us.

Speaker 4 So you need to be in the most pristine environment when you sleep. This is when you reset, recover, re-fucking load, right? When you're sleeping.
This is the most important place.

Speaker 4 You need a pristine environment. So we sleep on wooden plank beds, right? We have a 100% wool mattress that might be about that thick, right? This is similar to what primitive culture tribes do.

Speaker 4 Not mattresses, but bushes and shit like that. We have shielding paint on the wall so no signals can come in or out.
Brian Hoyer of Shielded Hearing,

Speaker 4 he's the expert in this. He's a building biologist.
We had him come in and say, how do we make this perfect sleep environment?

Speaker 4 Because when you have no EMFs coming in, when you have no electricity in the walls, we shut off all the electricity at night. There's no cell phones in there.

Speaker 4 Cell phones can't communicate in or out when you're in the room. We sleep on these wooden plank beds.
You've never known restorative deep sleep until you've come or

Speaker 4 slept in a real fucking cave right out in nature or come to my house. And you'll be like, holy shit, this is how I'm supposed to feel.

Speaker 4 And just remember, sleep is number one on the hierarchy of health. But I say, eat liver, start with that, right? It is the easiest thing to do.
I start telling people about sleep.

Speaker 4 They're like, oh my God, I got to sleep on the ground. I got to do this stuff.

Speaker 4 What you can at least start with is put your fucking phone in airplane mode. You don't need that shit when you're sleeping, right? Unplug your, your, your Wi-Fi at night.

Speaker 4 You don't need that shit when you're sleeping, right? And the last thing I'll say about your sleep is at least move your head away from the electrical outlets. Those are basic things.

Speaker 4 You don't need any instruments to do that. And if you get deeper, more restorative sleep, everything gets better.

Speaker 8 Now, you've eaten a lot of different animals, organ meats. Would you ever consider eating any human organ meats if it was totally legal and just to see if it had any advantages?

Speaker 4 Good question. You guys are going to be so mad about this.

Speaker 4 We all just had human liver.

Speaker 1 You're a liar. Right now, you just fucking had human liver.
We're all cannibals. I'm fine with that.
You're fine with it.

Speaker 12 Whose liver was it?

Speaker 1 Badass.

Speaker 8 Was it organic? Was it humanely harvested?

Speaker 1 Yeah, all of that.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be a cannibal by choice, but if you trick me into being a cannibal, I don't have no problem. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a cannibal.

Speaker 8 Was it tested for monkeypox?

Speaker 4 Somebody just told me about that.

Speaker 4 The liver was from Liver King Ranch or from White Oak Pastures, one of the two.

Speaker 4 And so would I eat a human liver? You know what? If I needed to, I would. I would have no reservation of eating a human.
But I mean, is that going to be a choice? Of course not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Let's not eat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't have to.

Speaker 2 At what point do you think you'd get to a place in life where you'd need to eat human liver?

Speaker 4 When I can't get liver from something else.

Speaker 2 So like if you can't get any other liver, if all of your liver supplies have run dry, then you would you would hunt a man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 People ask me all the time, hey, what's your greatest fear? What are you afraid of? Like, I'm not fucking afraid of shit, right? But maybe two things.

Speaker 4 Number one, running out of room on the deadlift bar, right? I'm afraid of that. Same.
And then number two, running out of liver, right?

Speaker 4 And if all the animals have been hunted and I can't fucking hunt an animal, it's been, let's say, a month, and I need my liver, I got no problem taking a liver from a human.

Speaker 1 Well, what about after you die?

Speaker 2 Do you want somebody to eat your liver?

Speaker 4 This would be an honor. Yeah.
Right? This would be an honor. I mean, my family knows when I fucking go, you don't put me in a casket or any shit like that.
You put me on the fucking earth. All right.

Speaker 4 And this is why we need to be gentle and kind to our fucking enemies, right? Because your enemy is going to die. They're going to become the earth.

Speaker 4 The animals are going to come eat your enemy, and then you're going to eat that animal.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 Yes, of course. I want to share my lover.
We owe it to ourselves and our future to express our and like what do you want?

Speaker 4 You want to fucking wrap up all those ingredients and in a coffin and not let that stuff become the earth? Yes.

Speaker 1 I do want.

Speaker 2 I wonder a lot, like when you're driving past a graveyard, especially here in New York City, it's just jam-packed with headstones, right?

Speaker 2 They're running out of, there's like no more room to put bodies in New York.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Yeah. How many, yeah, if we if he develops another 18 holes, then I think that we can get a couple hundred people there.

Speaker 1 But like, we're running out of room for people to go underground in a lot of places, right?

Speaker 2 You can't just go out and buy a set of land and make that a new cemetery. It doesn't work that way.
So, what are we going to do? We can just keep burning people up, or we can give back.

Speaker 2 And so, you're saying you like you want raccoons and like a bear to come up and eat your body after you die.

Speaker 4 100%. You know, or

Speaker 4 let my body decompose, become part of the earth. Let the scavengers come get me.
Let the animals get me. Right.
And let them inherit my strength. Right.

Speaker 4 Because if I've explored my consciousness, if I've progressed enough, this kind of energy is going to progress in the animal. We're going to eat the animal.
Everything's going to be better.

Speaker 1 This is actually like an ingenious life insurance plan for your family, too, because I would imagine Liver King's liver would go for a pretty penny.

Speaker 4 We've thought about doing some biopsies and putting it in a liver supplement and doing that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 1 Someone's going to pay. It's like going to be like Kobe or Wagu or Kobe Beef.
Like, yeah, Liver King's liver. It's going to be like, you know, $1,000 an ounce.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 probably more. Yeah.
I like that.

Speaker 8 Keep regrowing it in a lab.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Because

Speaker 2 liver regenerates, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 8 Actually, a little business idea of maybe get that biopsy, start growing those liver cells in a lab, start selling it.

Speaker 1 Let's get together.

Speaker 4 I'll give you one percent equity. We'll get it.

Speaker 1 Sounds good.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like a sourdough culture, right? That's what people do when they make bread. They've got that one thing that they pass down.

Speaker 2 We can make just like an entire strand of Liver King liver supplement lines.

Speaker 4 Okay, one percent equity over here.

Speaker 1 Okay, good, good.

Speaker 8 Another question. What are your thoughts on sunning? Sunning the perennium for vitamin D exposure and absorption?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's the perennium?

Speaker 8 So there's this movement to get vitamin D where people are sunning their assholes and perenniums. Do you think that works into the primal lifestyle, or what's your opinion on that?

Speaker 4 When you mentioned sun and asshole, I'm thinking subprimal, right?

Speaker 4 But if you sun your balls, there is a study, it's an older study, I think it's from like the 50s or 60s, that shows that it does improve androgens, not necessarily testosterone, but some of the androgens either upstream or downstream from testosterone.

Speaker 4 I think it's pretty fucking primal, right? I mean, we didn't evolve

Speaker 4 essentially with clothes, right? Clothes are relatively new, I think, within the last 100,000 years or so. I think it's pretty primal to do.

Speaker 4 And again, there's a study that says says that it's beneficial.

Speaker 8 So sun your balls.

Speaker 4 Sun your balls.

Speaker 1 Perfect. All right, so I had one last question.
I think Billy has a couple more, but mine was the robot question, which is a clothing question.

Speaker 1 So if you're going to wear clothes, which I will continue to wear clothes, I'm going to do some, I'm going to adopt some of the Liver King tenants, but I am not going to, I'm still going to wear a shirt.

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Speaker 1 All right, so what is like the one thing?

Speaker 1 Obviously, liver is the answer for the diet, but what's the one thing people can do to change their life?

Speaker 1 Very small thing they can do to change their life, whether it be like in the gym or, you know, what's going on.

Speaker 4 It's really easy. Sun and Earth.
First of all, you're going to get a Roman chest plate six pack, and how much you want to bet, you're not going to be wearing a shirt.

Speaker 1 I'll try. Okay, all right, I'll try.
You know what? I'll try. I'll try.

Speaker 4 And the first thing that I do every morning, I do a good morning primals, right? I'm out here to stack the sun and the earth, right? These are free. They're accessible to everybody.

Speaker 4 Even in New York fucking city, they are.

Speaker 4 Today I i didn't go to central park today i found a tree that's connected to the fucking earth i touched the tree right and some people think this is hocus pocus shit try it try it once again we evolved since our inception connected to the earth 24 7 365 we recently have disconnected every cell in your body is electrical in nature the earth has a slightly negative charge right there's something here so you're asking what what is what's a low-hanging fruit besides liver yeah is get sun every day get a little bit of earth every day and 10 minutes is better than two you know just get a little bit of that Yep, and then I would say one of the most important things I always talk about is go lift heavy shit right learn the barbarian train the barbarian complete the barbarian This is next level stuff.

Speaker 1 What's the barbarian?

Speaker 4 The barbarian is a rite of passage that I invented right it's a one-mile Workout where the barbarian is 70 pound kettlebells It's 120 pounds on top of a sled It's 70 pounds in a backpack 20 pound ankle weights you go for one mile And most people do this, right?

Speaker 4 And most people are like, there's no way I can do this, right? And sometimes it can take several hours. Sometimes a lot of people won't complete it.

Speaker 4 But when you complete it, the reason why this is so important is because you complete the barbarian and you know strength. And what I mean by strength is not physical strength, right?

Speaker 4 It's the process that got you to accomplish something that you thought was otherwise impossible, right? It's active suffering, active struggling. It's relentless effort, discipline, focus.

Speaker 4 You point that to anything, right? You just completed barbarian. Now you cracked the fucking code.
You can point that to anything in your life and you can achieve, right?

Speaker 4 You can own every outcome in your life. So this is the easiest thing.
Start with liver, sun in the earth, learn barbarian, train barbarian, and you're on your fucking house.

Speaker 2 Do you have any tenants that involve connecting with animals? Because animals are earth-adjacent, right? They're more primal than we are.

Speaker 2 Is it important to your lifestyle to have a connection with wild animals?

Speaker 4 Or a domesticated one? I got a pack of Dobermans, you know, outside of the world.

Speaker 1 Are they liver dogs?

Speaker 4 They're liver dogs. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 4 Ancestral tenant eight, again, is bond, right? It's not just bond with our fellow man and our fellow sister, right? Bonding, the companionship with an animal is fucking badass, right?

Speaker 4 And the same thing, you go out in the wild and you see the cows out on Liver King Ranch and you realize these cows have families. They have friends.

Speaker 4 It changes things.

Speaker 4 When you go to take an animal, you get involved with that part of the process. And they make beds.

Speaker 4 In the little forest that we have, they'll make beds. And the way that they nurse their young, I'm telling you, they have friends.

Speaker 4 And you go take that animal, it changes things. You understand how connected you are.

Speaker 2 So bonding I would say transcends really just human bonding it's with animals whether they're domesticated or wild I always feel better when I connect with an animal you know if you just get that good touch in yeah you just pet your dog yeah if they look you in your eyes and you're like okay that thing sees me as I'm seeing it there's a connection there that makes me my my day is always better after yeah you got endorphins go up dopamine goes up you know how good it is for the animal too yeah Or like if I'm in New York, I walk down the subway and there's a rat there.

Speaker 2 I give it a little head nod, it squeaks at me, back in nature.

Speaker 1 Same type of thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I know you're kind of joking, but that's pretty legit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, no, it's good to see like an animal and have the animal see you and the animal, like, especially with the rat, this is kind of pathetic, but sometimes if a rat sees me and it runs away, I'm like, yeah, I'm the fucking alpha here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bitch, run away.

Speaker 1 Little victories. Yeah, little victories.

Speaker 4 All right, Billy, what else you got?

Speaker 8 Last question. What are your opinions on no fap?

Speaker 8 Should you jerk off?

Speaker 4 What is no fap?

Speaker 8 It's just like abstaining from jerking off.

Speaker 4 Listen, what I'll say is this.

Speaker 4 People ask me relationship questions, sex questions all the time. All I know is this.

Speaker 4 You owe it to yourself

Speaker 4 and you owe it to your complimentary opposite to express your highest and most dominant form. Because something happened along the way.
This is really important.

Speaker 4 So give me two minutes to bear this out. Something happened along the way to say, hey, we can put our best foot forward.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to meet this person. Then I'm going to get comfortable, gain 20 pounds, lose 20 pounds for the wedding and the honeymoon.

Speaker 4 And then we're going to gain five pounds each every year in perpetuity. And then one day you wake up next to a fucking beast.
This is what happens, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 you might say you love this person because you're being nice, but you don't lust this person. You don't.
They don't have any of the qualities that they had when you first met them.

Speaker 4 So you owe it to yourself to express your highest, most dominant form. Your complimentary opposite will do the same, right? And so I think it's really fucking important to do that.
You do that.

Speaker 4 Imagine being in a relationship where you think that your queen is a 10.

Speaker 4 Is this even a conversation about semen retention and jerking off? It's not even a conversation anymore because you go to bed with a 10. This is the more important question.

Speaker 2 Gotcha. Billy, do you really get it?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 That sounded like a.

Speaker 2 I'm going to run that through my Billy translator real quick. He was like,

Speaker 2 okay, I get it, but like, I still want to know if I should jack off or not.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You'll answer his question.

Speaker 1 Here's what you do.

Speaker 4 Go create value in yourself.

Speaker 4 I had a mentor do this to me when I was in San Francisco with a couple of

Speaker 4 this is corporate Brian Johnson. These guys are gawking at this girl, and he like almost backhands us.
His name is Jason Ritchie. I hope he's fucking listening.

Speaker 4 And he goes, what the fuck are y'all doing? You know, if they catch you gawking on him, if anyone else sees you, you guys look like fucking clowns. Get into the gym.
Go read a book.

Speaker 4 Make yourself better.

Speaker 4 If you go create real worth, value, and esteem in yourself,

Speaker 4 you make yourself a 10. Right? The girls that you're going to attract, the one that you're going to marry, is going to be a 10, right? She's going to be the hottest girl.

Speaker 4 I get to go to sleep every fucking night. I get to have sex with the hot, with a fucking 10, right? But you got to make yourself that 10.

Speaker 4 Start with creating real value, worth, and potential in yourself. And again, this is not like some mystery, all right? It's start eating liver.
It's all nine ancestral tenants.

Speaker 4 Start eating liver, lift heavy shit, learn the barbarian, train the barbarian, complete the barbarian, and you can become a king, a self-fucking made king.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Well, thank you, Liver King.
This has been awesome. Appreciate it.
I'm going to maybe start eating some liver. I'm going to fuck it.
I actually liked it.

Speaker 2 It wasn't that bad i'm gonna adapt at least at least two of the tenants i'm gonna move forward with those yeah which two uh the bond and football i'm gonna work on bonding and then football

Speaker 4 i'm gonna bond with my boys watching football i love it and because of you guys i think we've made an agreement here right you're you're agreeing to move forward with with some of these tenants i'm gonna move forward with some of your tenants yeah right i'm gonna watch some football okay i'm gonna i'm gonna know a little bit more about this and when we do round two and we're sponsoring the most alpha king yeah we're gonna be able to catch up with one another um if you guys don't mind i at least just want to close you know these nine ancestral tenants right again people are living a life today of hurt and hate and suffer and struggle and there's a life full of adventure and excitement to live right there's a simple elegant solution it's called ancestral living it costs virtually nothing it's a nine ancestral tenants right that's why this is my job to model preach and teach it so people no longer have to suffer they can start doing this today it'll change their life tomorrow right so this is why i'm just so grateful that you guys had me on the podcast and uh and I hope we're going to spot.

Speaker 4 We got to be continued here.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely. Yeah, you're welcome back.

Speaker 2 I think this is a positive message that you're spending.

Speaker 4 I have two barbarian axes that I'm going to give away to you guys today.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. There's two of them.

Speaker 1 He has two of them. There's two of them, Billy.

Speaker 2 Which one did you think you were going to get? Number one.

Speaker 1 Guys,

Speaker 1 I'm going to pick who gets these two barbarian axes.

Speaker 4 And let me tell you what the barbarian axes represent.

Speaker 4 The barbarian axes are tokens that you get to cash in one day, right? And you say, Liver Liver King, I got the fucking barbarian axe. You can't reproduce this axe.
You'll see why when you get it.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to have you come to Liver King Ranch, and you're going to actually complete the Barbarian axe.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 There we go. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was tough for Billy that he thought he was getting one of these. He said, two.

Speaker 1 So here's the thing.

Speaker 4 I love these. I'm actually rewarding it to Billy and PFT.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's fucked up.

Speaker 4 I know. No, you know what?

Speaker 1 Give it to me.

Speaker 1 Don't be. Don't do it.

Speaker 2 I'd like to give mine to Big Cat. Yeah,

Speaker 1 why did I not earn one? I would. No, no, Big Cat.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 There's two, and

Speaker 4 that's such a nice thing that you're doing that you should get both of them now. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 You're going to get both of them, and then you want. You can give it to anyone, but don't give it to Billy.
He'll fucking kill us.

Speaker 2 No, I get both of them because I proved that I was the one that would give mine away. It's like the riddle of Solomon, right?

Speaker 1 Kind of like my first-class ticket to him. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 I'm going to give a first-class ticket to him yesterday. I gave it the truth.
Yeah, I'm sitting coach.

Speaker 4 This is what this is.

Speaker 4 A man needs to be a weapon, right? But a man needs to be a weapon of strength.

Speaker 4 A man needs to be a weapon of courage, but he also needs to be benevolent. You just showed me how benevolent you are.
Thank you. You're going to get the two barbarian axes.

Speaker 4 One day you're going to cash this in to come do barbarian, and I'm going to pay for everything.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 And it's going to be a ride of passes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to give this to Bat Girl. So here we go.
Batgirl right there.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give mine to Hank.

Speaker 1 Is he here right now? Yeah. Oh, he's not.
No, actually, you know what? I'm going to give it to the true alpha in the room, Jake Marsh. Jake Marsh deserves this.
So can you give that to Jake Marshall?

Speaker 1 Here we go. He is the true alpha in the room.
He deserves it. He hasn't even spoken in this podcast, but I don't know if you sense the energy, but that guy runs the whole thing.

Speaker 4 Well, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys, just grateful as hell that you guys had me here.

Speaker 4 I know that this is part one, and this will be to be continued. Yes.
So thank you again for having me on the podcast. This was a fucking blast.
Awesome.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much, Liver King. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 And I don't know if you're going to edit any of this, but I need, I always end the same way. I say Liver King out.
So you got to still be recording.

Speaker 4 You can edit everything I just covered and said right now.

Speaker 4 Liver King out.

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Speaker 1 jake

Speaker 2 What did you have, honestly, for dinner tonight? A turkey wrap. You had a turkey wrap.
That's fine. Thank Thank you for not lying, Jake.
I had a part of my cheesesteak. Big Cat had one.
Billy had one.

Speaker 1 Hank had one.

Speaker 2 I had one. What kind did you have, Hank?

Speaker 9 I had a Chipotle one. First time I had it.

Speaker 9 I enjoyed it more, I think, than the regular cheesesteak.

Speaker 2 Very good. Very good.

Speaker 9 And I love the regular cheesesteak.

Speaker 2 Bat girl, you have one?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I went Buffalo Chicken. It's my go-to.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushwar time.

Speaker 1 This one comes from, let me find the tweet, comes from a listener who I'm going to find it.

Speaker 12 It's a Sky Yam.

Speaker 1 Sky Yam said, super random, but a Mount Rushmore: ways to subtly emasculate someone would have to include lighting another man's cigarette for him. Great idea.

Speaker 1 We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of ways to subtly emasculate another man.

Speaker 1 Who won on Friday? You did, Hank? Team Hank?

Speaker 9 Team Hank.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 2 Team Memes.

Speaker 1 Memes did. Handley, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Handly? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So decide the order.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hank is subtly emasculating himself.

Speaker 1 He completely is. He's in his own head.

Speaker 1 Huh.

Speaker 1 You guys go. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he totally emasculated himself. I just power stared him to let us go first.

Speaker 2 Hank bent the knee. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I don't. You're a bitch.

Speaker 9 No, I just know you guys have bad answers. Like, I'm not worried about you guys having good

Speaker 9 answers, so I don't have to worry about you stealing ours because you're not on the brain level that we're at.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, in order to take ours. Cool, Piquette, do you want to go first?

Speaker 9 If you take our first one, then I will be

Speaker 9 extremely emasculated.

Speaker 9 No pressure.

Speaker 1 I really.

Speaker 1 What do you want to go with first, PFT?

Speaker 2 We got a lot of good ones here. Almost too many.
That's what I'm concerned about: too many good ones.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I mean, do you want to do that one? You can think all day. Because I think he might.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Calling someone buddy or pal. Buddying them.
Total emasculation. Mm-hmm.
You just drop the pal or the buddy. Just like, okay, buddy.
That's just the worst.

Speaker 1 And it's very like, you can't really get mad because it is subtle enough, but dropping a buddy or a pal, like Stephen Shea does it, and it drives me absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 What do you think about that one, bud?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got a pick, pal?

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah. It's fine.
It's a fine pick.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't like it? It's all right. Okay, buddy.
It's okay. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bro, you're going second? Yeah. You never said it.
Well, we're going second. Okay.

Speaker 9 Billy and Jake are going third. Good pick, pal.

Speaker 1 Thanks, bud.

Speaker 9 Stealing, like, paying for the bill without even telling the people at the table that you're paying it. So when the waiter comes over, he just hands you, he's like, all right, you guys are all set.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a power move.

Speaker 2 Good power move. It's more of a power move, but that's good.
It's a good one.

Speaker 9 Well, it's emasculating if you're, you know,

Speaker 9 if we're at dinner and all of a sudden

Speaker 9 the waiter came over, it's like, you're all set. You guys would feel emasculated.

Speaker 1 I'll just say right now,

Speaker 1 I'd like to get emasculated all the time if that's the case. If you get a free dinner,

Speaker 1 that's not the worst thing.

Speaker 2 With a significant other's father, it usually becomes like a contest where you guys try to see who can get the card to the waiter more like earlier.

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone calls ahead.

Speaker 2 Yeah, one time this girl, her dad actually talked to the host as we were being seated, gave the host his card before we even sat down.

Speaker 1 But again, at the end, like, yes, that is emasculating, but at the end of the day, you have a free dinner. Yes, which is fun.
That's like a nice

Speaker 1 man. I will take getting emasculated for a free dinner.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, that's because you can spin it into being like, this dude just bought me dinner.

Speaker 1 He just, and he was so scared I was going to buy it that he had to go through tricks to get it.

Speaker 12 Yes, exactly. Yep.

Speaker 1 Good point. So terrible pick, pal.

Speaker 2 But good power move, bud.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead, Billy and Jake.

Speaker 13 Our first pick that's happened to us via a guest a few months ago, a strong grip handshake.

Speaker 1 Ah, yep. Billy Mitchell.

Speaker 1 And we just were like, whoa. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Power shake.

Speaker 2 Can I give you a tip on how to counteract a strong grip handshake? Step in front, right?

Speaker 2 No, that was what Billy did, but Billy Mitchell, that is.

Speaker 2 But I learned this one when I was selling used cars right out of college because people come in and try to just grab the shit out of your hand to be like, I'm the alpha in this situation.

Speaker 2 If you can recognize that they're doing that intentionally and immediately just say to them, whoa, that's a really strong handshake you got there as they're doing it, it makes them so embarrassed because they're like, oh shit, I just got caught trying too hard.

Speaker 1 Or you could literally say, like, take it easy there, pal. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 You've now just completely flipped it. Whoa, buddy, you hurt my hand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, buddy, it's not an arm wrestling contest.

Speaker 2 The trick is, though, to acknowledge what's happening in real time, and then you can sidestep it.

Speaker 1 The more we use buddy and pal, Hank, I think the more people are going to realize how emasculating that is. Wouldn't you agree, pal? No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Strong. So Hank has getting a free dinner as his first pick.
You guys have handshake, which I like.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy. Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 8 We're going to go with

Speaker 8 pissing really hard at the urinal to make a sound that your streams a lot harder and more intense.

Speaker 2 That's next to you. Yeah, yeah.
Especially if the dude next to you is like some pop singer from England and he can't even pee.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Then you just totally alph him that way.

Speaker 8 You really pull out like pissing like a racehorse next to a guy and they're like, whoa there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's a good pick. What about tapping your foot underneath a bathroom stall when you guys are both shitting so that you know that your stance is so wide.
No,

Speaker 8 that's a rabbit in danger move.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 That's what rabbits do. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 All right, so Hank, your team's second pick. What are we going to like getting a free car from someone?

Speaker 9 We're going to go with...

Speaker 1 making out

Speaker 9 telling someone that you were actually gonna put them on the team and let them do kickoffs, even though you already cut them off.

Speaker 5 That's very funny.

Speaker 12 Very funny, Hank.

Speaker 9 What's the backstory there, Hank? Pep Pamilton, PFT, was

Speaker 9 after the video that came out of him missing 100 field goals in Colorado. Right after that, he watched it and then decided

Speaker 9 to say out of the blue. It was just kind of quiet.

Speaker 2 And then PFT was like,

Speaker 9 you guys know that Pep Pamelton told me I was going to be back on the XFL team and then COVID happened? And I was like, but didn't he cut you?

Speaker 2 I think Hank is so emasculated. He was like,

Speaker 9 he was like, no, he was going to put me back on the team, I swear. So that was like he emasculated you by being like, he did a good job, buddy.
Like, we're going to put you back on the team.

Speaker 2 He never buddied me.

Speaker 9 We were going to put you on the team, but COVID happened. But also, I cut you four months before COVID happened and played like seven games.

Speaker 2 Okay, none of those things are true, but

Speaker 2 Hank's off in his own narrative world. Hank's a little story corner over there where fiction happens.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put a sign behind you and send that.

Speaker 1 Good pick.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT, we have some.

Speaker 2 That was going to be very relatable. I think you'll get a ton of votes.

Speaker 1 There's two coming up, PFT. All right.

Speaker 2 I'm going to do the one that I replied to you. Okay.

Speaker 2 You sent it to me initially, but I like that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Helping a man off a boat.

Speaker 1 Yes. Big time.

Speaker 2 If you're, as a man, taking another man's hand to step off the boat because you can't get to where that man is without him helping you, brutal, super emasculating. And

Speaker 1 it's like, it really only happens in boats. Like, I, I, you know, you could have it like getting out of, like, uh, I don't know, like a big truck or something, but that, that really doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 It's boats because you have boat people and people who aren't on boats that often.

Speaker 1 So when you're at a boat, like, if you have, like, someone driving the boat, they'll be like, oh, let me help you off. And it's just, you can't, there's nothing you can do.
There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 1 It's a brutal, brutal thing to have happen.

Speaker 2 I'm very stubborn in those situations. I will just not take the hand, and I'll be like, you know what? If I die, then I die.

Speaker 1 Yep, yep. All right.
So,

Speaker 1 good pick, everyone. Yeah, good pick.
Saw a lot of nods, some thumbs ups.

Speaker 1 All right. Our next pick is

Speaker 1 controlling the remote at someone else's home. That is a big-time emasculation move.
Never let anyone else touch your own remote.

Speaker 1 But like, if you have, like, what, oh, you don't, oh, Hank doesn't like it. That's it.
Again, Hank's in his list.

Speaker 1 If I go to your house right now and I sit down on your couch and I take the remote and I'm just fucking cruising, if you don't fight me, you're a bitch.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Jake. You don't think so, Hank?

Speaker 1 No, what would you even be doing?

Speaker 9 I don't know. I don't think it really matters that much.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Definitely over holidays when you have family over, like

Speaker 1 someone else tries to control the remote in your home.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, never, especially if they step up to it and they're like super familiar with the patterns on the buttons.

Speaker 2 They know how to use all the different like little features that you don't even know how to use. Yep, yep.
They've got like their favorite channel presets in your machine.

Speaker 1 I won't even let my kids touch the remote. It's my house.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 They actually touch them all the time. Hank's just staring because

Speaker 2 here's what Hank's doing, right? He has zero counters to that. So yeah, no, he knows

Speaker 1 good little smirk.

Speaker 2 He's doing his little Hank smirk.

Speaker 1 Hank, I said good pick with your last pick.

Speaker 9 I know, because you know it's true.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of truth in what you said.

Speaker 9 Our next pick, we're going to go with.

Speaker 9 I don't know the proper way to word this, and you guys aren't going to help me out.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. We'll help you, pal.
I'll help you. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Billy, I mean, you.

Speaker 1 This is definitely not a contentious one.

Speaker 4 I'm a team member here. I just want to reiterate that.

Speaker 1 That guy will help you.

Speaker 12 Is it the weight one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 4 So if

Speaker 2 the person behind you needs to

Speaker 4 is smaller than you and you have to lower the weight on the machine for the person behind you.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good pitch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like when I get up after Billy.

Speaker 9 Like if, yeah, or if, yeah, like in my case, like I'll be, I'll be lifting weight and then the person right after me puts on twice as much weight. Yes.
You get very subtly emasculated. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because we were talking about weight stuff in our pregame

Speaker 1 pow wow. Because I was saying like the

Speaker 1 having to help someone with a spot, but that's more straight-up emasculation, but you're right. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 I like that one. Like when Billy couldn't get that up, he almost died.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was pretty cool. I also think you could do, I think, a variation of that, PFT, when we were talking earlier, is getting someone to ask you if you need a spot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like unsolicited, somebody walking across the gym, like, hey, you need a hand with that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a brutal one. But that's a good pick.
Good pick. Thank you.
Yeah, you have two.

Speaker 2 Okay, so our first. One time when I was in high school, I was actually at a gym, and I was on the bench press, and I was like very, very small when I was like a sophomore in high school.

Speaker 2 And this grandmother came over and corrected my form. Oh, no.
She was straight up like 75.

Speaker 2 She was terrible. She was 75, and she was like, so you're not getting the full range of motion when you do this, and you shouldn't try to worry about putting up as much weight.

Speaker 2 You should take that weight and cut it in half, and then just really work on your form. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's brutal.

Speaker 2 I was like, thanks, Nana. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 8 Our first one is saving another man's life or his wife and kids' life.

Speaker 1 Is that subtle?

Speaker 1 That seems pretty serious.

Speaker 12 Saving...

Speaker 1 I kind of agree. I don't like firefighters.

Speaker 2 I kind of want to agree with Billy that, like, if a man saves your family's life instead of you.

Speaker 1 But that doesn't seem subtle.

Speaker 1 If we're doing the subtle part of it, that doesn't seem super subtle.

Speaker 8 One time this dude, I was at a boat link up, and you know, when the two boats, one guy fell between two boats, and I saved his life, and now he's kind of my bitch.

Speaker 1 Right, but that was

Speaker 1 it subtle?

Speaker 8 I made it look really smooth.

Speaker 1 Did you give it mouth-to-mouth? No, I'll let it stick. I just, I was only talking about because you're right.
What you're talking about is correct, but the subtle part, I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, it sticks.

Speaker 8 That's fine. Or like Heimlich, like giving another person the high, like another man the Heimlich.

Speaker 1 And that feels not, like, I think you'd remember if you were dying and someone saved your life.

Speaker 8 Okay, here's, here's another picture.

Speaker 7 No, no, that works fine.

Speaker 1 It can play. I was just asking the subtle part.

Speaker 10 You're out of the bar and you buy someone's girlfriend a drink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with him there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like you're in a crew and he's a good one.

Speaker 10 Somewhere else. And you just...

Speaker 1 You buy like a round for it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Sorry, you're dating a poor guy.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a good one.
Billy, do you want to stick with yours? I'm not trying to... I'm just saying the subtle part might not be there.

Speaker 1 Because like when PFT and I were talking, like we were just talking about the weight stuff, he was saying it wasn't subtle if you have to go take the bench off somebody. Rescue somebody.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's just straight up embarrassing.

Speaker 1 So we took that off our list because of the subtle part.

Speaker 2 But if you want to have the one that we took off our list, I guess that's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 8 I'm allowed to change it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 8 changing. No, you don't.
You guys want me to change it because you know a wit.

Speaker 1 Listen, Pal, you can do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 Did you hear what we just said?

Speaker 1 We had.

Speaker 1 When we were texting and deciding what to do, one of the ones that I thought of was like having to take the bar off of someone's chest at the gym because they have too much weight on.

Speaker 1 And PFT correctly pointed out, he's like, that's not really subtle. And I was like, you're right.

Speaker 8 I kind of feel like you guys are trying to emasculate me by making me change. And then your next pick's going to be making a person change their mind.

Speaker 8 So we're not going to change.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Wow, Billy's really talked himself into

Speaker 1 the vast web.

Speaker 8 Or are you convincing me to make a bad pick?

Speaker 2 I know the term rent-free gets thrown around a lot, but I think it's safe to say me and Big Cat have not paid a rent check in months inside that head of yours.

Speaker 1 So, what's your final answer here?

Speaker 1 We're going to go with changing another man's tire.

Speaker 1 He fucking changed his mind. I didn't change my mind.
Oh, yeah, you did. Well, I just want to make fair with the game.
It's not subtle.

Speaker 1 That was not the plan. Go ahead.
What's your pick?

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 He really put himself in a corner. Whatever.
Do you want me to do mine?

Speaker 8 No, no, changing another man's tire.

Speaker 1 Good pick. Good pick.
Yeah, we had that on our list, too.

Speaker 12 Yes, that is a good pick.

Speaker 1 I had that on the list. Good pick.
I can't believe we made this guy.

Speaker 1 Fucking pal.

Speaker 2 I think maybe the best part was we gave him permission to let us change his tires.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Fuck. That was a good pick.
Good pick. All right.

Speaker 9 We're going to go with lighting another man's cigarette for him.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 2 That was from that tweet.

Speaker 1 That's the one. That was from the tweet.

Speaker 9 Did anyone else take it?

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 1 you have it, but that's fine.

Speaker 13 So should we make a different column for this guy? Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very unoriginal.

Speaker 2 Well, no, just Hank is acquiring more people on his team.

Speaker 9 Yeah. No, I mean, I guess I didn't realize there were stipulations.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I can do it. No, you're right.
Like, I assumed that, like, no one was going to pick that because that was the reference point. So, Sky Ams.

Speaker 9 Well, then I would say that I just subtly emasculated you by doing something when you assumed it wasn't going to happen.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So, yeah, so put him on the team. He's on their team.
Sky Ams? Yes, you have five people on your team now? Six?

Speaker 1 How many people do you need?

Speaker 1 We'll get you some.

Speaker 9 I mean, you guys are the ones that couldn't fucking handle doing solo teams this year. So you're the ones that

Speaker 1 I'm not in the first place.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do that?

Speaker 1 Hank's mad. Do you want to do that as our last pick?

Speaker 2 Which one?

Speaker 1 The last one you sent. The last one I sent? Yeah.
Okay, so the last one.

Speaker 9 This is after PFT got fucking salty in my second pick.

Speaker 2 I'm literally not. There's nothing more irritating, actually, than like being told that you're mad about something that you're not.

Speaker 2 And then your whole little world around you is like, people are like, look how mad you are. Look how mad you are when you're not actually mad.

Speaker 2 So therefore, our last pick is telling someone that they're mad.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
It's very emasculating.

Speaker 2 Hank's mad right now.

Speaker 1 You'll just be like, you can't control your emotions. You're mad.

Speaker 12 Hank's an angry little ball of hate right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. That was a good Mount Rusher.
What did we miss? Anything else we missed?

Speaker 9 I was trying to think of Jake Marsh ones, but I feel like those are just straight-up emasculations.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I wrote down a few, and I was like, nope, that was just actually emasculating. Nope, that was actually emasculating.
Yep, that was actually emasculating.

Speaker 9 There's no subtlety to his game.

Speaker 1 Giving directions to another man who's lost. If a guy asks for directions and you know exactly where he has to go.
Yep.

Speaker 10 Directing traffic.

Speaker 8 What do you mean? That was one that I...

Speaker 10 You're in a parking garage and

Speaker 1 you. Oh, helping another person park.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. You're like, wait, don't go

Speaker 1 out and get it. Hank should have picked that one instead.

Speaker 2 Traffic call.

Speaker 1 I really didn't like that one. Patting someone on the top of the car.

Speaker 8 I thought you were like literally like a police officer directing traffic.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 Helping someone park is a great, big miss on all of our parts. Yeah.
I had giving your seat to a lady in front of another man who's also sitting.

Speaker 2 That's a great way because

Speaker 2 that guy's thinking to himself the entire time, wow, I'm a piece of shit. And the lady is thinking, wow, this guy's a piece of shit.
I like the guy that gave me a seat.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's a big one.

Speaker 8 Paying another man's salary.

Speaker 2 Being a boss?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Owning a company.

Speaker 8 Emasculates the person who gets the salary.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. So having your salary paid by someone.

Speaker 8 Basically, fin domming a dude.

Speaker 1 Yes, finming, okay.

Speaker 2 Who pays your salary, Billy?

Speaker 1 You guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's right, Pat.

Speaker 2 Calling a small person big guy or calling a big person slim.

Speaker 10 I feel like like the big guy is kind of similar to your first pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Symbol.
Yeah, a little bit. I had also driving another man's car while he's in it.
She's been like, you know what, let me drive. I know the roads better or something.

Speaker 2 Unless they've had a few too many and they're being responsible.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 10 A waiter who memorizes the order.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's a good power point. That's a great one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just thought of that.

Speaker 2 And then somebody asked the waiter, like, are you going to write this down? The waiter said it wasn't it.

Speaker 1 They get it right.

Speaker 1 If they get it wrong, if they get it wrong, then it's completely the opposite. But yeah, they get it right because everyone always doubts the waiters that do that.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 helping another man get his luggage out of the top compartment and on an airplane.

Speaker 9 Just having to jump on the seat to get your luggage out of the stall.

Speaker 2 Doing any chore for another man in their own house.

Speaker 1 I've got to say that.

Speaker 8 Fixing stuff in someone else's house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like plowing or shoveling someone else's driveway without them asking for it in the first place.

Speaker 2 Or like trimming their weeds in the front yard if you have your weed whacker out, not asking them, taking care of it for them.

Speaker 2 It's like it's a subtle implication that you're not able to provide for your own lawn.

Speaker 2 Along those same lines, if you go into somebody's house and you see a full trash can and you don't even throw anything away, but you notice that it's full and you bag it up and take out their trash for them, implying they keep a dirty house.

Speaker 2 Is another emasculated one?

Speaker 1 Yep. What else we got?

Speaker 1 Hank, you got any others? You seem like you get emasculated a lot.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but not subtly.

Speaker 1 Oh, I this one, let's debate this one. I thought having another man hold an umbrella for you, you're emasculating him.
Like a super rich guy

Speaker 1 who like has umbrella holders.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Wimbledon, they have the ball boys holders under the player.

Speaker 1 Right, because you know, it's you're walking around like a boss and you just have like bodyguards.

Speaker 8 Getting another man,

Speaker 8 getting someone else to bring you drinks, like a water boy type dynamic.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Ooh, I like that.
That's good. Coffee.
Yeah. Asking someone to get you coffee.
You got upset about that for like six months when I asked you to get coffee.

Speaker 1 Billy's like, you didn't even drink it.

Speaker 1 You're trying to fuck with me.

Speaker 2 But I don't bring coffee no more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We have

Speaker 2 shining another man's shoes. Yeah, shining man's shoes.

Speaker 2 This is just a little trick.

Speaker 2 that a friend taught me a couple years ago. And you can do it once, and it's fun to do once.

Speaker 2 But if you're in a car and you're in the back seat, you tell the driver of the car that they put their child lock on so you can't get out, and it makes them, after they park their car, get out and then open the door for you to get out like they're a chauffeur.

Speaker 2 It's just a fun little trick to do the guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else? Any others? That was a good Mount Rushboar.

Speaker 1 It might have broken up the podcast, but it was a good Mount Rushbore.

Speaker 2 No, Hank's just mad, and that's okay.

Speaker 8 Ripping another man's pants off.

Speaker 1 Some of the things he said were true, but he is mad. Those things are.
Why Why would I be mad? You're mad about we keep it. You're mad because we buddied and pallid you.

Speaker 1 And also because your first pick was trash. You're like, I just like getting free food.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that wasn't my pick, so that's all right. I can live with that.

Speaker 1 Oh, here it is.

Speaker 2 Was that memes?

Speaker 1 Terrible coach.

Speaker 4 No, it was me, but I stand by it. I think that's, I think that it's a massive pick.

Speaker 1 Me, too. Yeah.
I think memes are. I would get away with it.
But like I'm waiting if it was more.

Speaker 9 It's more to the point that you guys saying that I like, I don't care that you guys didn't like that pick. It doesn't make me upset.

Speaker 2 No, you're not mad. Definitely not.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 mass pickers, which which pick was yours

Speaker 9 um the second one was definitely mine which is what it was when uh coach pep hamilton told pft seven months after the fact that he actually was going to put him on the team for kickoffs yeah uh but then covet happened even though four months before covet happened he cut pft and then they had like 17 games where he could have done what he said he was going to do and then three years later said i was actually going to put him on the i think there are four games i think there are four

Speaker 1 tomatoes that's almost 17 yeah yeah yeah okay so that one was my pick okay good pick Hank okay okay

Speaker 8 listening to another man's podcast huge emasculation

Speaker 1 okay sure now everyone's gonna turn this off I think it's actually the coolest thing you can do listening to another man's podcast yeah that's a cool thing to do um okay let's do nothing actually they're our bosses because they pay our salary yeah that's true so we're actually betas by having a bunch of bosses out there listening to us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, facts.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Again, this is...

Speaker 1 I think we just, I think that Mount Rushmore, it had good intentions, but it feels like we just all tried to emasculate each other, and now there's tension in these. Well, yeah, you guys do.

Speaker 1 All right. Actually, I will.

Speaker 9 The buddy and pals did get me upset.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it's a great pick. If you buddy or pals someone, you're just fucking dominating.

Speaker 9 Like, I didn't need to do that one second, but I was so worked up that I just had to let it say.

Speaker 1 Because you got mad. Yeah.
I get so mad when someone, like, not, you can tell when they're joking, but when someone honestly gives you a true buddy or pal, it's like, fuck you, dude.

Speaker 9 Like, I just completely abandoned even possibly winning the Mountain Rushmore just to get that off my chest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's all right. Sometimes it happens.
All right. Number six.
That means basically, PSG, we dominate. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 We got him emotionally.

Speaker 1 We emasculated them during this subtle emasculation.

Speaker 2 We emasculated him so hard that he just lashed out entirely. Yes.

Speaker 8 Calling someone else out.

Speaker 1 Well, I wasn't lashing out, I was just stating facts.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go with Trace McXorly.

Speaker 2 27.

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 2 54. By the way, Saturday is the two-year anniversary for the machine.

Speaker 1 Wow, Saturday. All right.
Hey. 29.
You think you'll ever get one? Probably not. Probably not, pal.

Speaker 2 Trace McSorley.

Speaker 8 He scored.

Speaker 1 Steven does like, if you'll

Speaker 1 he'll like text 70. He'll text and

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Speaker 9 I actually have a sick animal fact.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is a scalability bill.

Speaker 2 Wait, this is disgusting because I don't think that Trace McSorley scored. No, he did.
I think they're going to call that one back.

Speaker 1 You go first. Okay, we'll duel.

Speaker 8 A Texas biotech company is planning on bringing back the extinct Tasmanian tiger.

Speaker 2 That sounds like Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 Did you know that one fish is fish?

Speaker 9 Three of the same fish are called fish.

Speaker 1 I know, I'll read this one.

Speaker 1 I know

Speaker 1 you have a good fact.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey, take your time, pal. Shut up.

Speaker 4 It's too complicated to be a good fact.

Speaker 1 You shut up, too.

Speaker 9 You just can't comprehend anything.

Speaker 9 A plural of fish is fish. When referring to more than one species, you can use fishes as plural.

Speaker 13 So like all the fish.

Speaker 1 A tuna and a cop.

Speaker 9 If there's three goldfish, that's just fish.

Speaker 1 And if it was like a salmon, a tuna, and a goldfish, that's fish. Fishes.
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 It's like a few.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, a few.
A few, three.

Speaker 2 You're right. You gave a perfect example of three and then called it a few.
You're learning, hang.

Speaker 1 Tough break, buddy.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

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Speaker 4 Well, he's going to get back in there.

Speaker 2 Wait, did he fumble? And that's a tough one.

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