Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia, Will Zalatoris Wins A Tournament + Mt Rushmore Of Bad Idea

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On today's Pardon My Take, a little grit week extra, we got Coach Rich Basaccia, now special teams coach for the Packers, was the interim head coach for the Raiders last year. Great interview with him.
All time football guy through and through. We also have Mount Rushmore of line.
What do we have? Bad ideas. Mount Rushmore, bad ideas.
We just did two Mount Rushmore. So I got confused.
Mount Rushmore, bad ideas with a bonus. Will Zalatoris watching the last hole live during the Mount Rushmore segment.
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Congrats, Will. Very proud of you.
He also got a tweet from Adam Sandler. Yes.
Saying congratulations. Happy's happy for you.
Yes. We're all happy for you.
It was great drama. That's got to be surreal, right? Yeah.
Because I'm sure that Will Zalatoris, when he was growing up, probably got compared to Happy Gilmore's caddy a lot. A lot.
And it probably sucked for him at the time. Yep.
But then to get a congratulations tweet from Adam himself on the day that you win your first tournament. That's big.
The entire playoff that they had was just fucking nuts. Yeah, it was nuts.
And we have a little time capsule for you. So when we started Rushmore, Mount Rushmore today, we were actually doing it at 6 o'clock.
And you can hear us live the last hole. It was insanity.
The fact that we had a three-hole playoff, sudden death, three-hole playoff, and there were three different penalties taken, and Will Zalatour's ball, like I guess it ended up, it didn't make a difference if it went in the water or not, but his ball bouncing and staying on that rock, I still don't. That's like a billion to one shot.
It's incredible. Yeah.
But it was a fantastic finish. Basic PFT voice.
Golf playoffs, go home, you're drunk. Yeah.
I mean, they were drunk. And Will Zalatorre's also, I mean, what did he finish this year? I think he finished second like four or five times, including second in three of the four majors.
So they were saying on the broadcast that he made $6.7 million this year,

and that was the most money that anyone's ever made without winning a tournament.

So he finally wins one.

That was the drama on Sunday.

We're still – it's preseason football.

It was cool to have all the preseason games going on.

I like how it's all spread out.

So it was like, oh, Friday night.

Oh, there's three games.

Oh, Saturday afternoon.

Oh, cool.

Let's watch a couple games.

Sunday, there's a little extra game.

It's nice.

I like preseason football.

I don't know how it's going to carry over into weeks two and three, but week one, it was pretty strong. You just bet on whatever coach.
If it's a matchup between a rookie head coach and a coach that's been in the league before, you bet on the rookie head coach to yeah because i think somewhere deep down they would prefer to win their very first game that they play in they might make some decisions towards the end of the game that like they're actually trying to win right as opposed to you look at some of the older guys like belichick i think payton was this way too where they just don't give a shit and then oh also bet on the raven because the ravens are the best team to preseason football. They're incredible.
And, yeah, it was, you know, preseason football. I think we all had the moments.
I mean, Billy and memes. You had a scary moment on Friday night.
Zach Wilson threw – it was Jameis-esque, pre-Lacet Jameis. Jameis is now an MVP candidate.
But he just threw a perfect pass to the middle linebacker and uh gave up pick six and then non-contact knee injury not acl but what was going through your head billy when that happened because that was that was scary it was the worst sequence of moments in a preseason like literally so much hope going in and like you know hopefully there's been improvement and just interception, almost ACL.

It was just the worst sequence of events.

But I looked at the tape.

The linebacker did fake a blitz, kind of disguised well.

It was supposed to be a routine dump off to the stick,

a very safe pass, and the linebacker got a little greasy. So it was a better play by him than a worse play by Zach Wilson.
Right, it was very well disguised. That's something that you'd see on film, and since he didn't have any of that on film, so we'll see.
The linebacker ran play action on him. Exactly.
He pretended to defend against the run and then dropped back. I mean, it's a typical thing.
It's something to spot. He was trying to get out fast, and the linebacker got under.
It was tough on the group text because it was, I think memes was already like Jimmy G. Like, I'm going to love watching Jimmy G on the Jets.
Because that, you know, obviously everyone thinks, you know, Mike LaFleur is their offensive coordinator, and Sal from San Francisco, they're like, Jimmy G's going to be on the Jets by Monday. But thankfully you have Zach Wilson.
I'll address that more in my Who's Back. Oh, okay.
Do you have multiple Who's Backs? Do you want to just do it now? Okay, yeah. You know who looked amazing? Joe Flacco.
Sam Ellinger. He actually, yeah, he did.
He looked amazing. He did.
He did. He did.
I saw a stat line. Two touchdowns, 10 of 11.
Did you actually watch Sam Ellinger play? I saw the highlights. Okay.
Yeah. They were sick highlights.
Yeah. In your defense.
Yeah. I mean, preseason is, it's really, it's such a test for football fans because it really is like, I was watching the Bears game on Sunday, or on Saturday, and I was like, don't get upset about this.
Don't get upset about this. And then if Justin Fields made a nice throw, and I was like, dude, upset about this don't get upset about this and then if Justin Fields made a nice throw and I was like dude he's fucking awesome it's like you can't you just it's so hard to watch it and let it not bother you and then you automatically if a good play happens you're like this is the best we're back there was stuff coming out of training camp for the Jets that Joe Flacco was performing very well and it was like should we just start Joe Flacco because he's performing better but the thing is that's what I was performing very well, and it was like, should we just start Joe Flacco

because he's performing better?

But the thing is, that's what I was thinking about

when Zach Wilson got hurt.

I hope Zach Wilson has a very speedy recovery.

But, I mean, then you don't have to make that decision.

But that's bad if that...

If your first-round pick is in the second year

and you're talking about starting a guy who's 40,

that's bad. No, but that was more just something that was more just like fodder to write about right for the

sports writers but like then if that wasn't true in that situation then you could put this is billy

is like i think this is just osmosis and being around us long enough he's becoming a master of

the spin zone in terms of sports like what you just did i'm proud of you because that's true like

you're like well now now they don't have to make a decision we can just see if joe flacco's good

I'm proud of you because that's true. Like you're like, well, now, now they don't have to make a decision.
We can just see if Joe Flacco's good. If you're Zach Wilson, you better be back by week one.
Cause if you're not and Flacco goes out and he throws four touchdowns as he usually does, it's going to be very tough to bench Joe Flacco at that point. Yeah.
I'm just so happy to be talking about football again. Yeah.
This is like so fun. Yeah.
Jake has a stat. If if Joe Flacco plays week one you know who's on the schedule Ravens Jets week one oh my god yeah Lamar Jackson added 18 pounds of muscle I I feel like that's probably not gonna go great I think he just hasn't shit in a while I don't know I think he's waiting for Thursday night football he looks clear some of that out he looks thicker like it's I don't I don know.
I feel like he's not going to be as quick. This might be his way of holding out.
He might be pulling a James Harden because he says that he's not going to negotiate his contract after the season starts, and then he's going to go into this offseason as a lame duck court. It's very weird what's going on both of them right now.
Would he go into the offseason as a free agent, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So this would be his lame duck season. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's very weird what's happening with him, and they better lock him up because if he hits the open market, he's going to get paid. It's weird, and this is just my own personal experience with guys who put on a ton of weight and then they play.
Like how they do, either you get serious injury prevention from some injuries like broken bones uh just like you know concussions you know impacts aren't as bad but then you have the double-edged sword is is the body capable of moving at that weight you get like non-contact right zach wilson he put on a bunch of weight this offseason yeah he had a non-contact well and more about, like, Lamar Jackson. He looks thicker, and it's probably good because he does sustain some hits, although part of, like, what makes him great is he's able to kind of elude those hits.
But I just can't imagine gaining 18 pounds of muscle. Like, you can't tell me he's going to be as fast.
He has to lose at least a little bit of quickness. And you know that it's not – you know, everyone talks about 18 pounds of muscle.
No one ever actually puts on pure muscle. I mean, it's definitely – it's a mix.
There's always a mix. You're always putting on a little bit of fat depending on the ratio.
So it's not all functional weight. So we'll see what happens.
All right, so I was talking Lamar Jackson's body type. I like that.
I like that a lot. He is very low body fat, but there's going to be some added non-functional weight.
I think he would look better to have a little bit of that Russell Wilson cake and a little bit less of the Lamar Jackson pie. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes perfect.
Thick that out a little bit. Yeah.
What else do we have going on? I mean, there was soccer drama. We had a Harbaugh-Schwartz handshake off in Tottenham, Chelsea.
I and i was talking soccer yeah i was talking soccer uh there was a few more things that happened in football we got to see baker mayfield in a carolina panthers jersey yeah fucking weird i i knew it was going to be weird because they've got such a like 90s modern color scheme right that baker was not going to look natural in it it he looked good when he was playing for the most part, but I'm not going to get used to seeing him in a Carolina Panthers.

No, he definitely, because the Browns in Oklahoma had like, it's kind of similar looks.

Yeah, it looks like Captain Planet got hit with a strobe light on the Panthers.

That's not Baker Mayfield's game.

He looks like he's playing in NFL Europe.

Yeah.

That's what it is.

He's playing for the Berlin Hammers or whatever the fuck they were.

It's very strange.

Matt Rule's glasses have gotten bigger.

He's a good guy. Mayfield's game he looks like he's playing in NFL Europe yeah that's what it is yes playing for the Berlin Hammers or whatever yeah they were it's very strange uh Matt Rule's glasses have gotten bigger he wears the biggest sunglasses in the world now they cover up his entire forehead yep um Sam Howell future Super Bowl MVP that was nice to see Kenny Pickett nice little drive to to to win for the Steelers yep and I mean that the Steelers I don't really know what they're doing because I, they have like three.
I actually think that if you, if you were like, who's got the best three quarterbacks, I think the Steelers are the answer. Yeah.
They've got, they've got a lead Rudolph Trubisky and pick it. Like I think if you had to go, I think Rudolph kind of sinks that a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.
A little bit, but who else has, who can go three deep? Do the Steelers have the best starting three? The Jets. Zach Wilson, Mike White, Joe Flacco, that's pretty big.
That's a three-headed monster. Yeah, I don't know.
It was kind of... I think I might just bet the Steelers every preseason game because every one of their quarterbacks isn't a backup hanging on.
You know what I mean? I would say maybe the 49ers. Colts.
Jimmy G. Trey Lance.
Colts have two. I think they have Nick Foles, Matt Ryan, and Sam Ellinger.
They win. Yeah.
Okay. It's just a fun little debate to have.
Who's got the best starting three? I'm trying to think of other ones. Who's the third? Panthers.
Oh, yeah, they got P.J. Walker, right? Saints.
Saints. Dalton and Jameis and Ian Book.
Ian Book sinks that. Yeah, I think the Panthers are definitely up there.
Although Sam Darnold and Baker, like, what? Yeah. Bills have Case Keenum.
Nah. Matt Barkley.
Case Keenum did the video where he was, like, pretending to get – he was like, who will recognize me getting signatures from other Bills players? But he didn't even wear a disguise. It was just like everyone was like, dude, what are you doing? Like, Josh Allen was like, what's up, Case? It was a – Weird voice.
Case just likes weird videos. See, I feel like he's always good for one of those every year where it's like training camp, weird, funny videos.
So the joke was like he just looks like a normal guy? He kind of put down his bucket hat a little bit. So it didn't really show his face.
I feel like Case Keenum will be the guy who does a video at Sports Authority and be like, no one knows that it's me. It's like, well, you're Case Keenum.
Oh, sure. Yeah, right.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay, Case.

Yeah.

I remember Woodhead did that for a while.

He was the king of that.

He would show up.

I think he did a Dick's Sporting Goods thing.

Yeah.

But it was funny because he was selling,

people were buying Danny Woodhead jerseys,

and he was the guy that was selling them the Danny Woodhead jerseys.

Right.

But they didn't know that that was Danny Woodhead selling that jersey.

Right.

That's fucking, that's some high-level internet right there. It is.
Yeah. I don't know what else, what else happened with the NFL preseason.
Watson got chanted. Oh yeah.
You sick fuck. Yeah.
No means no. By the Jaguars fans.
Best thing Jaguars fans probably ever done. No, swimming in the pool with a denim on.
Yeah. That was pretty good.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess that's true. And I guess if you're getting your head stuck in the Jaguar statue outside the stadium.
Yeah. So they've done a lot of cool shit.
That's like the Mount Rushmore. And then the Jackson DeVille, like, didn't he, like, get strung up or something? Yeah.
Jackson DeVille is the greatest mascot, I think, in professional sports. He gets, like, lowered in on his zip line.
That fat ass. He gets lowered in on his zip line, and he was just completely passed out, and his neck was drooping forward.
Yeah. That was awesome.
That happened with the Nuggets mascot, too. Remember that video? That was fucking sick.
Tim Kennedy, Stu's guy went off. Yes.
Our guy. Yeah, our guy.
We know him. Yeah.
Tim Kennedy from Farmingdale went off. Yeah.
That's going to be a good hard knock. And Jared looks great.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for hard knocks.
Oh, yeah. It was definitely the beginning of the I can't wait to watch this Lions game so I can see all the plays that I'm going to see shot with a different camera on hard knocks the following Tuesday.
Yeah. What is he going to yell about? Yeah, exactly.
Okay. Fernando Tatis.
Tatis. Oh, yeah.
That was going to be my news back. Ringworm for Fernando Tatis.
80 games. You got to feel real.
The Padres statement that came out, I wouldn't say it was great for Fernando. But it's realistic.
No, I know. They were very honest.
They're like, yeah, we expect to have trust both ways, and something is clearly broken because this sucks. Yeah, so I have him on my fantasy team, and I cut his ass the second I found out about this.
So Leroy gave me the heads up. I brought the ghost of Leroy, came back for a brief time on Friday night, got a tip, got a couple tips, saying that Fernando Tatis was going to be suspended for the rest of the season because of PEDs.
And so I immediately went to my fantasy app and tried to trade Fernando Tatis. Is that a code break? No.
If we're talking about, should I have gotten smacked in my face by somebody for using inside info that they didn't know? No. So I wasn't able to find a trade partner in the 15 minutes in between when I found out when Jeff Pisan reported it.
But I stand with the Padres in solidarity that we've come this far without Fernando Tatis. We don't need him.
We're going to keep moving on. And it sucks for them because they built everything up to win a title in the next year or two.
And now you have this guy out. I don't understand why.
Didn't he test positive a while ago? I don't know why. That's usually how it happens in baseball.
You test positive, then there's an appeals process.

That's like Cam Smith today.

That fucking sucked for anyone who bet Cam Smith on Saturday night.

And he shows up to the driving range, and they hit him with a two-stroke penalty.

Yeah.

Which is this league with Liv Tor.

Of course.

Big time.

It was also this league.

Did you see Scotty Sheffler step in his line?

Yep.

Don't step in another man's line, Haas.

Big time.

Big time.

Okay, anything else?

Let's go. It was also this league.
Did you see Scotty Sheffler step in his line? Yep. Don't step in another man's line, Haas.
Big time. Big time.
Okay, anything else? Last thing I'm taught, his excuse for the ringworm medication, it's a totally different compound. So I think it's like whatever the word is, then like euthanate or something, acetate afterwards, and that's a totally different compound that's used to uh take out ringworm than the one he tested positive for so he's just bullshit yeah so he still has ringworm yeah untreated got it what is ringworm i think it's fungal yeah it's like when you're really good at wrestling you get it yeah yeah you're just rolling around on mats with dudes you get ringworm okay that makes sense i have a bad fungus right now what i use you know we were on a mic right now? What's going on? Well, now you have to say it.
I got this thing on my back. Doesn't itch, doesn't hurt.
What does it look like? It turns red. Let's see it.
Yeah, yeah. I can diagnose it.
Let's fucking see it. How do I? Put it on the camera.
It tarps off. Take it all the way off.
Take your shirt off. Let's see your fungus.
Where is it? Are you talking about pimples? You have pimples no it's it's fungus you have back acne it shows up in the heat yeah oh billy i know what that is that's tinea versicola yeah how do i get rid of it you should do you should get some uh some dandruff shampoo get like salsun blue uh-huh and then rub that on your back every day also if you being on time helps it true True. You'll also get that in Mount Rushmore.
Mount Rushmore today was a chaotic mess because one of the mics wasn't working. Billy showed up halfway through, and also we were watching Will Zalatouris win his first PGA champion.
It's very, very good. Billy's not in trouble, just so everyone knows.
No. But it was great.
It was great watching, hearing all of it. Billy, sell some blue.
Just rub it on you. Hey, Billy, you're a real fun guy.
Thanks. Nice.
All right, let's do our who's back of the week, and then we'll get to Rich Bisaccia, who all-time football guy. Like, just he liked us, and then we had a couple questions that he didn't like us, but I think there was, like, we love him more..
Like it was one of those interviews where it's like, he might not like us, but we love him. Yeah, we love him because he's the exact kind of football guy that doesn't have time for like two slapdicks with a podcast.
For stupid questions, yeah. But he also, he had a great, I forget what the exact phrase that he uses, but you know how Belichick every year when they ask him about social media, he'll be like, oh, I'm not on Snap Face.
Yeah. You know, like where he just makes up a social media thing.
Yeah, he did. He did that.
And it's perfect. He did that.
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That counts. You didn't know that you were going to be called on, so that's fair.
I did have a backup. I was either going to go that or shorts or pants.
Wait, why are pants back? It was kind of cold this weekend. It was.
It was beautiful. Switching pants.
Pants are back. Yeah, it was beautiful.
It was like the perfect temperature in the city. It made you start to feel like fall's coming and football's coming.
That first crisp of the air when you're just like, oof. I got tickets to the whiteout at Penn State.
My girlfriend went there, so that was big. Who are they playing? Minnesota, which kind of sucks.
Why are they wasting a whiteout in Minnesota? I have no idea. No idea.
What? Yeah, that's tough. What's the rest of their schedule? Wait, but they're not that good when they do whiteouts, right? Right.
Yeah. So they're not right.
When we think of them wasting it, it's like that's actually a perfect use for a whiteout because you don't want to do the whiteout against like in Ohio State. Well, that's what they've been doing.
Although they did win the famous one. Yeah, they have a home game against Ohio State and Michigan State.
Oh, man. All right.
Minnesota whiteout. Okay.
P, your who's back? Well, I was going to have Leroy as my who's back. He's a very good boy.
But we talked about Fernando Tatis coming back. So I'm going to say my who's back is soup and salad.
So it happens about every time this year. I know you guys kind of feel the same way when we get back from Grit Week.
It's usually when we're at our most bloated of the calendar year or definitely right up there. Jake's nodding his head because during grit week every time we'd have like a burger for lunch he could be like oh my god we're eating like such shit today yeah he really made us feel way fatter than we really are that's so many times that he was like we like shit today i was like i ate exactly how i always eat you have to realize i'm someone who on a routine in the office i eat a salad for lunch five times a week yeah so anything but that we have have back to back barbecues.
That's what it really hurt my feelings. I'm sorry.
Am I eating? I should have used first person, not us. Yeah.
Well, when you say I'm eating like shit and we're eating worse things than you're eating. Right.
And you're that's a big time double sportsmanship where it makes us feel worse. Yes.
But but this is the time of the year where we do feel bigger, bloated, filled with sodium and beer usually. So weighed myself.
I'm a little on the chunky side. That's fine.
What are you weighing at? No comment. No, come on.
Give us the weight. 191.
Oh, that's not bad. But every time I approach 200, I'm like, okay, if I get over 200 pounds, I'm never going back.
So I was about at this age or about this weight last year at this time so i'm gonna get back on the soup and salad train and then it fucking didn't help me i don't know i think i don't know who to point my finger at exactly but if you see the thumbnail from this week's stool scenes have you looked at it big cat no it's me and you i got done dirty on this thumbnail look at look it up right now i want to see your reaction to it. You look great in it.
Thanks. I think they used the slimming tool on you.
Somebody put the fat filter on my face and on my boobs, and I just look fat as shit in this, but I saw it, and it was like looking into a window into the future. You got to understand, too, I don't care.
My pictures, I always look like i look like shit yeah no but oh yeah you don't yeah what your it's more your face just looks distorted they made me fat and but it's you know it's good for the motivation it's like it's bulletin board material for me i don't want to look like that so i'm back on my diet which i invented which is just eating soup and salad every day during the week and then whatever the fuck you want to do on weekends that's fine that's that's that's your time i thought you were going to say that they put in all your misses at colorado no no well there weren't any of those right yeah do we have a video coming out from that bat girl yeah that'll be in the recap this week nice beautiful so we got a recap coming up and then we got everest also at some point we date on that. That'll be the following week.
But everyone check it out because we got some good stuff. We have more Grit Week stuff coming up, content coming out.
Okay. So, yeah, that's a fucked up picture.
Yeah, but you know what? In the long run, I think that picture is going to be – that's going to start a new good diet for me. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, there you go.
I like that. Appreciate that.
I like that. All my who's back is jacob de grom um he's just all the way back and this is why like when we talk to jake arietta and people get upset when we're when he's like yeah jacob de grom's the best pitcher like oh he can't stay healthy he on saturday night pitched against the phillies the red hot phillies uh he pitched six innings 10 strikeouts 76 pitches he's still on I think a pitch limit yeah it's fucking insane how good he is and he's fully back because he's also back to getting the exact same amount of run support yep that Jacob DeGrom one run one run and it was his run support and his other start on Tuesday I feel like it was like two or three runs yeah but it's it's it's he is so fucking filthy.
Like the fact that he pitched six innings, 10 strikeouts. He's he's nasty.
And when is he going to be memes? When is he going to be like back fully? Like when do they say they're going to let him actually pitch a full game? I think it's going to be a while. OK, but you don't care.
You just got to have him back. Yeah.
Yeah. They said on the pregame show that his slider wasn't hitting and he still threw 10K strikeouts.

Fuck.

Not bad.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

The other night he pitched five and two thirds and had 12 strikeouts.

He's absolutely insane.

Yeah.

So right now he's pitched three games.

He has 28 strikeouts in 16 innings.

He's fucking filthy.

Also, my jinxing ability is back because I totally blew up that raised pitcher's Rasmussen's

Thank you. strikeouts in 16 innings he's fucking filthy also my jinxing ability is back because i totally blew up uh that raised pitchers rest rest rasmussen's uh perfect game it was even for me and i i do jinx a lot of shit i was shocked because i i tweeted like congrats to the raise for the perfect game and it was like 45 seconds later that the orioles broke it up so sorry raise fans all five you.
Jeff Passan also jinxed it when he tweeted his thing out because he was like, there's something happening. I hate that shit.
That I'm not going to talk about because I can't talk about it, but you should watch this game. Dude, there were so many writers saying shit like, tune into this game.
Something's going on. You're a fucking writer.
Just say it. Say what's happening so people go watch it.
It's crazy. Also, it's a tough look for the Rays because the Rays, I think they've got the most perfect games thrown against them of any team despite the fact that they've only existed for like 20 whatever years.
And they never have a perfect game for themselves. So it's bad luck.
I think they're number one. I believe that.
I feel like every time I've seen a perfect – Dallas Braden, his was against the Rays. So they're tied for number one with the Dodgers.
Oh, the Dodgers. They've been around a little bit longer.
Yeah, a little bit longer, I'd say. The Rays and the Dodgers have three perfect games thrown against them, and the Twins have two thrown against them.
So the last perfect game 10 years ago, right? Is that what it was? Felix Hernandez? Yeah, it must have been. Yeah.
Perfect games rock. You remember we were having a big discourse.
This is how dumb sports talk radio is. In 2012, we were like, is there something wrong with baseball? Why are there so many perfect games? Yeah.
Like something's changed, and then boom, 10 years it's been crazy i mean the yeah because 2000 uh 23 in 2012 yeah yeah so it was a problem there was two in 2010 many perfect games and then armando galarraga got absolutely screwed out of his yeah yeah jim joyce yeah the umpire crazy um that that would piss me off forever. All right, Billy, go ahead.
My who's back is Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury, who had once said he was retired from boxing, went to Iceland to try to find Hathor Bjornsson, the mountain, to do some sort of exhibition event.
Oh. Wait.
Yeah. Are you saying a boxer didn't actually retire? Right.

I know. I know, but he's back.

That's nuts. So Hathor Bjornsson,

you probably know him as the Mountain in Game of Thrones.

He's a, you know, a multiple World's Strongest Man winner,

like gigantic specimen of human being

who has been getting into boxing

recently. This is just one of those

pure spectacles that I think would be just

hilarious to watch because

Hathor Bjornsson did win a fight against Eddie

Hall, another strongman his boxing is very limited but it would be a total crazy thing to see him face off against yeah heist and fury these are two gigantic like giants boxers and porn stars never really retire yeah they always say they do they're always they're always ready for one more they just always you know what i mean you don't see it you just be like no no if you're there's one more you just age into becoming a milf yeah right it's just like oh i'm back for one night only you know like double anal like oh okay in some ways the senior floor floyd mayweather's gonna fight some random dude in fucking you know vegas in a couple years he's back just they don't retire the senior tour of porn stars is almost more lucrative than the original tour it's just I never trust boxers and porn stars you tell me you're gonna retire I'd be like all right I'll see you in a couple years well when a boxer retires it's almost understandable because they just got done getting punched in the face for like 30 minutes right so most rational people would say okay I'm never gonna do that again right after it happens but then box like, you know, you give them a couple months off and they're like, I kind of want to kick somebody's ass.

Not only that, but someone's like, hey, how about we give you $20 million for one night of work?

Okay, that's similar to porn stars.

How many Zin 6s you got in?

Two.

Yeah.

That's fucking insane.

Yeah.

I just cashed my last two.

We have Breaking Moose.

Breaking Moose. Max, Batgirl.
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No. Hank.

I miss you Hank.

This show doesn't work without you Hank. Emergency.
Emergency. Who's back of the week? Stephen A.
Smith is back tomorrow. Yeah.
He just released this tweet. I haven't heard it yet.
It just came out. Let's see what Stephen A.
Smith has to say for himself. What's up, everybody? It's been a long time.
I know I've been going a little while. I know that, but I'll be back.
I'll be back Monday morning, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
There's a whole bunch of stuff to get into. I know you're seeing stuff in the NFL, the Cowboys, Lamar Jackson, Trey Lance and the whole crew.
But I haven't had an opportunity to comment about KD and his trade demands. Let's go.
And Kyrie, along with a host of other things that's been going on in the NBA. He's got a strobe light going on behind him.
It's been a while. It's crazy.
Shoulder still. Still got some work to do.
But I'm ready. I miss y'all.
Stephen A. Smith.
I hope y'all miss me too. Definitely strikes me.
He definitely strikes me as a. Buckle up a stripper's pole in his house.
Oh, for sure. He probably has his own ATM in his house, but he just uses it himself and pays himself money.
He's a bottom feeder. Self-admitted.
Yeah, he loves the booty. You can't keep Stephen A.
Smith's mouth off a booty. But yeah, it's good.
The sports world is going to be, you know, it's a better place when Stephen A. Smith is on my television screaming at me in my living room.
Yes, agreed. Agreed.
Okay, Jake, finish us off and then we'll get to rich bisaccia my who's back kentucky athletics we've got a situation brewing in lexington i really wish you guys had kentucky sports radio coming up because you guys would love yes messing with the fans so yes uh john calipari wants a new practice yes he wants a new practice facility he says we're a basketball school coach stoops bounces back says we're a football school and now they're kind of beefing okay so if you want to explain yeah so yeah well so yeah obviously stoops was like i we compete in the sec and kentucky football has been good the last few years the thing is it's like one of those things that what john calper perry said

is not incorrect he just shouldn't say it out loud right they are a basketball school right

like you can't change that right but kentucky football has been good of course of course but

like this would be saying like if notre dame basketball won a national championship march

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He has to defend his program.

That's what I'm saying.

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If they're if they're a basketball school what does that make St. Peter's like basketball or not yeah yeah basketball Mecca yeah but everyone getting a dream team yeah I get like getting upset about it if you're in the program, like football program.

But again, what he said, that would be like Duke.

Duke is a basketball.

You know what basketball and football schools are.

When I saw it, I was like, yeah, they are a basketball school.

That's no offense to the football program.

Kentucky, when you think Kentucky, you think basketball.

That's just a fact. And then the AD, Mitch Barnhart, blames the media and the world we're living in for the controversy.
Blaming the world. I mean, Cal Perry, he did kind of step in it.
He shouldn't have said it. You know you're on the right side of history when you start blaming the entire world.
Yeah. It's not me.
It's the media. It's literally everyone else.
Yes. It's actually, yeah.
Yeah. So I thought that was a rare controversy that you never have the two head coaches kind of.
Beefing. What a burden that must be to be the only correct person on planet Earth.
Yeah. It's got to suck.
Yeah. It's like everyone else is crazy except me.
But if both teams win, the fans probably won't care. That's not going to happen, though.
But again, go back to it. Who's going to win a national title? Who's more likely to win a national title? Obviously basketball.
It's very clear. I do like what James Calipari is doing, which is...
No, it's Jin Calipari. Jin Calipari.
He is completely thrown out the idea of winning being the only thing in college basketball, though. Oh, yeah.
So much so to the point where he has players that are getting drafted in the first round that just never play at Kentucky. Correct.
So it's just a farm system for professional basketball. They just, like, when they get away with the one and done rule and they make it so high school players can go, like, James Calpapari is going to figure out a way to have, like, dudes go from high school to NBA but make sure they're wearing a Kentucky hat on draft night

and be like, he would have.

He would have come here.

Another one for us.

Or just market himself like, hey, come here.

You'll get a million dollars in NIL.

Yeah.

Stay on campus, and we'll just have you practice for a while.

If you don't like the teams that are going to be probably in the lottery this year

and you want to wait out for a different lottery sequence to come up,

then, yeah, come hang out in Kentucky for a year.

We'll pay a million bucks.

see on the probably in the lottery this year and you want to wait out for a different lottery like sequence to come up then yeah come hang out in kentucky for a year we'll pay a million bucks you don't even have to play yeah or just commit to us and then go to the draft yeah you don't even have to show up on campus put our hat on yeah just know that i want to be on top of the commitments every year yeah it's true uh but yeah kentucky they are beefing i guess it's also not a problem to have that it's a good problem to have the fact that football now takes offense to it. Because that actually shows, like, if you think of it that way, 10 years ago, if he said that, no one would have said a word.
So it's actually good that Kentucky should be proud that there's actually people who are upset by that now because it means that football has been better than average yeah i would say that that kelperry is actually putting himself on the losing side of this argument by having to say we are basketball right kentucky yeah that should not ever have to be said yeah it's like what's that old the the political thing where if you can if you can make your opponent say i'm not a pig fucker yeah even if they're beating already won because you shouldn't have to deny him. Jim Caldwell had to answer a question of whether he's dead or alive.
Exactly. Makes you think, is he dead or alive? Not a question a live person would ever have to answer.
Yeah. That's the old David Stern.
Remember David Stern did that to... Who'd he fucking do that to? Did he do it to...
Oh, have you... When did you stop beating your wife? Beating your wife.
I think he did it to Jim Rome. I think so, yeah.
Yeah, he oh have you when did you stop beating your wife your wife i think he did it to jim rome i think so yeah he's like when did you stop beating your wife all time fucking pretzel them yep he's like what no good answer no good answer uh okay let's get to our interview great interview again if you think that he doesn't like us it's probably true but we love him even more because he's a true true grit football guy it is rich bisaccia uh it is brought to you by our friends at chevy the silverado zr2 was built to tame the trails as most off-road ready silverado ever created and there are eight more silverado models to choose from to make sure one fits your life powerful engines available advanced trailering technologies plus a spacious and premium redesigned interior silverado provides the strength and chevy truck capability to handle whatever comes next with the silverado you have everything you need to not only write your own summer story but also make it an unforgettably epic one pft was driving around a chevy silverado for most of august he loved it chevy truck grits and smarts to make you unstoppable take command of your summers with chevy silverado head over to chevy.com to learn more about the chevy silverado today yeah big guy did you see that now biz has the truck yeah biz has and he put a he re-wrapped it over the gay pride wrapping uh-oh couldn't be me guess what people are saying things about biz for putting his own personal brand over top of the pride month silverado wrap i'm just saying i did not do that either way i drove it loud i drove it proud yep and the truck is still a beautiful beautiful truck uh biz yeah he loves a chevy silverado i was talking to him actually the other day he was he was awesome hyping up the Sasquatch, Saskatchewan Rough Riders. I don't know.
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Here he is, Special Teams Coordinator Rich Bisaccia. This Grit Week interview is brought to you by Coors cores light we now have a very special guest it is special teams coach for the green bay packers he also was the interim head coach for the raiders last year first guy ever to get uh coach of the year and assistant coach of the votes after the 2021 nfl.
It is Coach Rich Misaccia. Coach, thank you for joining us.
So it's Grit Week. First thing we ask on Grit Week, what does grit mean to you or how would you define the word grit? Grit.
I guess grit to me would be my dad getting up at 5 in the morning and going to work and driving a truck and coming home at 7 at night

and getting up the next morning at 5 and going to work and driving a truck

and getting up the next morning and feeding his six kids.

I think grit is doing what you're supposed to do,

when you're supposed to do it, the way you're supposed to do it,

and do it fucking better than anybody else on the planet.

That's a great answer.

I love that answer. I'm ready to run through brick wall wall which is what everyone always says about your players for you would is there a player that like has tried to run through a brick wall for you i don't you know um just the equation is about them trying to improve at everything that they are every day right can they be a better son can a better husband? Can they be better at their craft every day? Just can you improve a little bit at who you are every day? And then, you know, we're trying to do it for each other.
It's not just about me or one in particular person. It's really trying to do it for each other.
The particular thing about football is we need all of us. You know, Michael Jordan can go off and score 50 in a game, right? We need the guy us we need the guy behind us we need the guy in front of us it's just a different game so it's really about all of us so we were telling you right before we started that uh when you got the job with uh Las Vegas last year when he became the interim head coach we had our good friend Booger McFarland on and we asked him about you and he said that you're number one foxhole guy, number one guy that you want to be in a foxhole with.
And it seems like everyone has that same opinion of you where players want to play for you. What is that about you or your personality that has guys, all the quotes are, I love Coach.
He's always been straight with me, honest with me, like I'd run through a brick wall like PFTFT said. What is it that makes guys drawn to you? For the test of time, I always have issues with or talking about my personality or who I am.
I don't know if I can actually explain that, to be honest with you. I think a lot of players I've been fortunate to be around and people I've been around, they do a better job explaining to me than I do.
The McFarland thing, you know, he's been in a lot of my meetings in Tampa. And the foxhole thing from Anthony is, you know, I do this thing about the foxhole, you know, is like, fuck the foxhole, make them dig.
You know, we ain't digging. And I'm not a digger.
I don't want any of our guys to dig. We're just, we're going to go.
And that's where that foxhole thing, he always, you know, he leaves me that a lot of a lot of times my message is you know fuck the foxhole and that's kind of our our mentality is fuck the foxhole make them dick we're running that's that's genius and it's genius because what he's saying when he said like you're the number one foxhole guy what he means by that is he wants to be in a foxhole with you because you're not going to be in a foxhole you're gonna and you're putting other guy in a foxhole well just again it's a you know it's all right it's a mindset it's a mentality we run into circumstances all the time how are we going to deal with the circumstance and if we run into that circumstance where i guess i'd rather just i'm going yeah and hopefully we can get enough guys to go in the same direction the thing i've heard about you from your players is just that you care deeply about each and every one of them, that you think of them first, you're an authentic guy, they respect that, because players can tell if they're dealing with like a bullshit artist, but you actually care about them and you want them to succeed. Is there one player in particular, let's just say besides Will Compton, besides Will Compton, who's the best player you ever coached? Wow, that's, you know, I've been fortunate to be around.
I've been asked that. I struggle with that.
I think if you go way back from me, you know, I was fortunate in my college career to be around some guys that became, you know, Sterling Sharp and Harold Green and Deuce McAllister and Robert Brooks way back when I started in college. And in pro football to be around early, Rondi Barber and Mike Allstott and Derek Brooks.
And when I saw Warren Sapp practice, I about shit myself. I mean, I never seen anybody run like that size and practice like that and how smart he was and the way in which he cared about his teammates and the way in which he cared about the plays and then being with John Lynch and you got Brad Johnson and then I ended up with work done and Cadillac Williams goes on and on and on.
You know, when you talk about a long career, the list of the players that I've learned from or have had an opportunity to be around. I mean, we could take the whole show, I guess.
And, you know, I know I forgot a lot of guys. But early in my career, when I first got into the NFL, to be around those guys on that defense, you know, not to mention Simeon Rice was on that defense.
And, you know, I just can't explain the things I've learned from those guys. And, you know, Derek Brooks and I are still extremely close and have conversation.
And when you win a Super Bowl, and I've tried to tell our guys all the places I've gone, when you win a Super Bowl with a group of men, your Rolodex is incredible. You know, the phone gets picked up like that.
And there's some sort of a bond when you win that one game in this league that's never-ending, you know, and I've been fortunate to be a part of those men doing that. So we're here in Green Bay.
It's training camp. We, you know, we love talking to football coaches.
One of our good friends, Doug Marone, he said that sometimes at practice he likes to close his eyes and just listen to the hitting of the pads and the helmets. First day of training camp, do you have an extra pep in your step? Is there something about football that just gives you extra life, that's something, a little thing that maybe us fans don't realize? Doug Rohn's an old lineman, so those guys, they hit all the time.
He's from Lehman High School in the Bronx, and I've known Doug a long time. But I just feel fortunate every day that I get to wake up and do this.
It's been a way of life. So I have a certain zeal for the mornings because you get to come in here and see the players and see their dreams come to fruition and watch them.
I think the only people that get excited about the first day of pads are coaches. Players are like, gosh, I've got to put on my pads today.
Especially if you guys have been around for a little bit. But again, and coaches always talk about this, the opportunity to be on the grass is what we all strive to do.
We all want to be on the grass. We know the meetings are a big deal.
We know all those, but being on the grass, that's coaching. And that's playing.
Players make plays, not coaches. So the meetings are to put something in, but to actually go on the grass and walk through it and then to see it happen and see it happen live and see it happen fast and see it happen physical.
Fuck, that's why you get up and go to work, you know? So that's for me. Yeah.
So you're from New York. Did you grow up a baseball fan? Huge baseball fan.
There's only one fucking team, though, and that's the Yankees. Yeah.
I know. I respect that.
I think a lot of people feel the same way. As you're growing up, when did you realize that it was football that was your passion? Yeah, good question.
I played basically all three sports, you know, most through all high school, and I just kind of got bored with baseball a little bit. It just got to be the point where I like this.
I like the physicalness of it. I liked the tactical part of it, you know, learning other positions.
And, you know, I'm old now, so I never came out the field. I was fortunate in high school.
You played offense and defense and kickoff. We did all those things.
So I think that just the zeal for football came from the physicality of it to some degree and the chess part of it, knowing all the positions and how it works together. I think that was always, for me, it was something I just thrived on to some degree the physical part of it,

but the technical part of it was fun.

I mean, we all love the other sports.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, so special teams.

It's a third of the game.

Everyone reminds everyone of that when you're watching.

The Packers had struggled big time last year with special teams.

You come in.

How do you fix it?

What is the Rich Versace key to special teams that you tell guys day one,

this is how we're going to do it?

Players.

That's it?

Players.

Players have to believe in what you're teaching them.

You have to be astute enough in what you're teaching them to gain their trust

for them to know that, okay, this has worked over a test of of time and if we do it this way we could have some success um and then you just you know let them put them in position and do what they do well and and let them play you know special teams is some degree it's a bad rap you know it's really the ultimate football play you know you talk take the punt play to me it's the most transitional play in all of football you have the the ball, so you have to protect the punter. And then next thing you know, you transition into a defensive player.
There's gap responsibilities. There's lane responsibilities.
There's the integrity of covering the whole field. So it's a transitional play that usually your offense can't get 40 to 45 yards on a play.
So hopefully we can go out there and we can make up for them not getting enough yards in three downs. You get one down, you know, to set the defense.
And that's kind of the mentality you try to take. But it also gives guys, affords guys the ability to play for a while in the National Football League if they can adapt the team-first attitude that it takes to play special teams.
I think Keith Burns, I had him in Tampa. He was in Denver.
He played 15 years.

I don't think he ever started a game.

Wow.

He played all special teams.

Yeah, I mean, everyone always talks to it.

I think, did he just retire Matthew Slater?

I think he might.

I think he's still playing.

Oh, he's still playing.

But, like, he's, yeah, he's a perfect case of a guy who's made his entire career

off special teams.

And you can tell that, like, a guy like Belichick looks at him as, like,

he's very important to this team.

Well, Coach Belichick started out as a special teams coach. Yeah.
You know, so, you put importance on it and you put a priority to it. And players can see that you do that.
They're wanting to get a chance to get on the roster and they find a way to do it. So what's the biggest change in special teams since you've been in the league? Because it's come a long way.
Yeah, a lot of changes. I think the biggest one is what goes on on kickoff return now.
You know, no more three-man wedges, no more basically back end two-man wedges. There's eight guys in the setup zone.
There's no more crack back blind blocks like that. There's no start off for the kickoff team.
We used to line a guy, Torrey Cox, I had him in Tampa. He started to line up on a 15-yard line, you know, to take off.
And they moved the ball up because they want more touchbacks, things like that. So there's constant rule changes.
A lot of them are made towards safety to some degree in the kicking game. But you just have to adapt and know that everybody's doing the same thing.
What about strategy-wise? Well, I think it's when I came in the league in 2002, there used to be back in the day, like when I was in college for 19 years, you coach a position and you work special teams.

Some teams broke it up.

This coach had kickoff return, this coach had punt return,

and other coaches all helped.

I think it started to get into vogue in the National Football League.

You know, the Coach Westhoffs, the Brad Seelys,

those guys early in their career coached a position and did special teams.

Well, once they started naming the guy just a special teams coordinator, and now he started to put in new schemes because he has a lot of time, he has longer meetings, well, it just became more of an interest, and now you had to play against that guy, so they were all donating time and just one coach to the special teams. So the strategic part of it has grown immensely over time.
We're all looking for the weak link on the punt rush team. Who can you beat? What scheme are you going to scheme up this week to beat a certain guy? They've eliminated the pull and shoot where you still pull a guy out and shoot a guy behind it because guys got pretty smart in doing those things.
There's been guys on field goal rush. They used to grab a guy and they'd send the guy out, stand in front of the official.
Can't see the guy grabbing a guy, you know, for the shoot. So I think you have to look at what's going on in the past to understand that now there's so much schematics going into the special teams because of what happened earlier.
Were you the coach on the Bucs in that game against the Colts where the, I think it was Monday Night Football? Yeah, it sure was. That was bullshit, right? The end of that game? It's, you know, it's a long time ago.
that game, and obviously they came from behind. We actually gave a big kickoff return to kind of start their role.
They didn't really score on it, but they scored on the next play, and really I thought we just had a big lead, and we just scored again, and we get a kickoff return. Next thing you know, you get a big play, and it kind of starts their role.
I think there was four on-site kicks in that game, and one was over there at Lynch's side, I know, and one was a middle dribble and we got one and then it became the field goal debacle and what's-his-name hadn't missed all year. Vanderjagt, yeah, and they called like Leaping, right? He missed and they called Leaping on Simeon.
Yeah, I went back and I watched that when we had Booger on because I wanted to bust his balls about it. And I was looking at those, I still don't know what they called in that play.
I don't understand it. Well, they call it leaping.
I just don't know if they saw that. But that's what they call it.
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And now, more Rich Passaccia. So I mentioned at the top the Raiders last year.
First coach ever to get assistant coach of the year and head coach of the year votes. It was an incredible year just because of, you know, everything that happened with the Raiders and you come in.
Have you had a moment to, like, look back and be like, that was – like, I'm proud of what we did because I think any other team has that much adversity with Gruden going away and then the Henry Ruggs situation. You kept that team together.
It was incredible that you guys got to the playoffs and got to that point and probably should have, outside of a bad call against the Bengals, could have maybe been playing in the second round. Have you had that moment? That was something special because it was from our point of view.
I think we definitely think it was something special. Certainly when it's all said and done at the end of the year and you lose that last game and you're in the locker room with those guys that went through all that, I'd like to think the coaching staff that we had pulled everybody in the same everybody in the same direction.
And the players just decided to become a team as we got going. And I think we tried to improve a little bit every day.
I thought we were improving in games as the season went on. But I think the credit really gets to be spread amongst the coaching staff, amongst the personnel, people that were there and Mayock, who I've known for a long time.
And then certainly the way players adapted to everything that happened, you know, a lot of times in adversity, you know, it breeds strength. And because in the National Football League, no one really gives a shit, to be real honest with you.
You know, you got to get up and you got to go play. You know, no one cares type deal.
And I think we got to the point where we had to kind of rally together for the things that went on that they weren't in our control. But what is in our control and how are we going to respond to the things that happen? That's life, right? There's circumstances that come up.
How are you going to respond to the circumstance? And I think that's what everybody on that particular staff and team adapted to. Here's the circumstance.
Here's how we're going to respond. Yeah.
Now that last game, before the playoff game, was there any part of you that was like, let's play for a tie? No. That was one of the craziest events, basically, in the NFL, the fact that we had two teams that if they tie, they both get in, and then have it be tied late.
There was never a point where you're like, oh, let's just tie. We had the ball, and we had the clock in our favor.
So our thought was we were just going to keep running the ball, and I thought we could kick a 58-yard field goal with Daniel, obviously. But we get in position where we end up with a big run.
The timeout's really irrelevant. I don't know why everybody makes such a big deal over it, but we just ended up with a big run with Josh and just put us in better position to kick it.
But we were going to be in position to kick at least a 58-yarder, we thought. Now, did you feel at any point that the Chargers were like, maybe they'll just tie? Because it was crazy.
I mean, I'm just thinking back of it now. It did feel like the Chargers thought, oh, let's just run this out.
Like, we'll be fine. Yeah, I think we can only coach one team at a time.
That's a good answer. That's a good fucking good answer.
It is. How long did it take to write all those handwritten notes? Because for people who don't know, you wrote a handwritten note to every single player.
I don't actually, like, I'm not going to commend you because, like, you just did schoolwork. But how much time did it actually take? Because that part, I would be like, no, I'm just going to type this out.
That was actually, you know, my daughter put that on FacePace or Facebook, whatever those things are. That's awesome.
But I, you know, I wasn't't really happy with her at first. I certainly appreciate her thought process and what she was, now that it's gone through.
But coming from a longtime college coach, you know, we just, I wrote notes all the time. You know, handwritten notes.
It was a big deal in recruiting at that time. And a lot of times I'd left, you know, you can ask Deuce McAllister and those guys left notes in their lockers and all those things.
So that was just kind of we were in a playoff game and it was an exciting time for everybody. And I was just going to leave stuff in their locker and I was just finishing up some.
That was actually the morning of the game. I only had a few left to finish up.
I had been working on them throughout the week. So there was only a few to finish up and that's when the picture was taken.
Did Compton get one? Because I don't think he was a 9-1. Oh, yeah, I actually let him go before that.
Yeah. You've got to write him a note.
I've got to I gotta bring that up. Come on, you gotta write him a note.
You owe him a note. Do you want to give him a verbal note? I text him all the time.
Give him a verbal note. I text him all the time.
I text him all the time. You don't know exactly what that means.
It was a cool moment though. Like I said, we're drawn to football guys who it's clear their players will do anything for them.
And it's clear that you have that with your players. Well, just some things are supposed to be private to some degree.
And, you know, that probably should have been one of them. Again, my daughter, I love her to death.
You know, she's a school teacher, and I get her being excited for her dad. But just some things should be private in our world because we don't really live in the real world real world.
I know people on the outside like to think that we do, but we really don't. And it just, you know, we have this thing about a brotherhood of men and families.
And, you know, we try to create a family community within our team. But the reality of it is in a family, the week's at the pace, right? You go to the zoo, you've got your little kids, they spend

most of the time on top of your shoulders.

It's Thanksgiving, you're with your grandmother, you're going to

make sure your grandmother gets their seat, and you're going to

take care of everyone in your family.

On this, the strong set the pace.

The weak are cut out.

Will Compton. This is a brotherhood of men.

Will Compton's a good player now.

He's a great guy. We love him.

Why'd you cut him?

We just had a numbers issue. Yeah, I like that.
The math didn't work out for him. Be careful being a wiseass with a wiseass.
Yeah. But anyway, go ahead.
I love it. I read that you worked with Charlie Weiss right off the bat.
He was one of your... Not right off the bat, but out of Wayne, Charlie was the one that hired me as a GA at South Carolina back in 88.
We worked the offense-defense camp in 87. He was in charge of hiring the GAs at South Carolina.
So he hired me after the 87 season. I was at Wayne State, Nebraska.
He hired me as a GA at South Carolina. Did he have a parrot back then? Not to the best of my knowledge.
Okay. He ended up getting a parrot after that, and then every time somebody would go over to his house, the parrot would just attack him.
Yeah. We've been on the parrot case.
We've had him on a couple times. We've been searching for that bird.
We're kind of obsessed with the parrot. Yeah, I went to his house in New England once.
I didn't see any parrot. Really? You were lucky.
You were one of the lucky ones. That's why you're sitting here today.
Yeah. Charlie's good to me now.
Charlie helped me get my start. Yeah.
He's a brilliant guy. He's a hell of a football coach.
He really a little bit um Charlie would give you a shirt off his back now yeah cares deeply about people so yeah he's a good guy um I was noticing that through your career you know you've got you've gone a lot of places you've traveled around one thing that's important to a lot of coaches that we talk about is uh the culture that they establish there and so in the NFL especially it's so transient there are people coming in and out teams are never the same year after year um and you're working with a different group of guys if you move around like i know you went to san diego you've been all around is there something that like do you evolve what the culture of your football team is going to be based on the players that you have and their personality or is it more like okay here's what we need to develop i know that this works if we all believe in X, Y, and Z, and that's how you teach it where you go. Well, I think I'm trying to figure out the head coach's culture and what's important to him and the direction he's taking his team.
And within that, we're going to build our unit culture in special teams in congruent with what his vision is. So based off that, Matt LaFleur, his culture is just looking like a pretty boy so how have you uh adapted that there's another wise ass fucking comment you know I think Matt LaFleur's I never met Matt LaFleur until I talked to him on the phone and I I thought I had gotten to a point where I really didn't want to work for a head coach I didn't know and um but my conversations with him on the phone and my conversations with Joe Barry about him and then I talked to Todd Torselli who's the trainer at Tennessee who's a good friend of mine I was with Matt there and I I got an unbelievable amount of respect for his um respect for players his zeal for football and his drive to win and I enjoy coming to work with him every day he's he's been phenomenal to me he's incredible with his coaching staff and with their families and the way in which he addresses the team and the way in which he practices.

I mean, you look at that team out there in practice,

the whole offense is 10 to 15 yards behind the offense that's on the field.

Every team I've been on, you're screaming and yelling at them all the time.

I think the discipline of his players show up in games over and over and over again.

I don't think he gets enough credit for doing what he's done. And he's a good-looking guy.
I'm excited for the journey with him. Yeah.
What's that? He's a good looking guy. Yeah.
I guess I don't look at him like that. Yeah.
I mean, I do. He's a good looking guy.
I can say it. Yeah.
Yeah. He's a friend of ours.
We've had him on a couple of times. He's a good looking guy.
I don't like him. You love field goals.
Yeah. So that's good for you.
Yeah. Did he actually bring, did they bring you in because Aaron Rodgers is getting a little older so you're going to have to punt more? We always have to pepper a couple of these in.
Okay, here's a real question. Here's a real question.
You coach – you mentioned two of the guys that you coached back in Tampa, John Lynch, Mike Allstott, two heavy hitters. I heard a rumor that they were not allowed to hit each other in practice.
Is that true? That'd be false. Oh, I was sprinkled in there by somebody trying to.
Did you coach when Lorenzo Neal was also there? Yep. Lolo, no.
Lolo was in San Diego when I was in Tampa. Okay, yeah.
But in the collisions that would occur in that practice, that's one thing that we love about Mike Allstott, like an all-time grit guy probably uh never afraid to put his face down top of the list what would would those noises sound different you know you always hear about like certain batters in baseball ball sounds different off their bat you know i think those collisions there's you hear more you don't really hear like a hammer hitting a nail kind of deal you, I think you feel they're like fucking horses finishing

at the end of the quarter mile, you know.

But those are, I don't know, those practices back then,

I mean, we were two a days in Orlando, in the heat,

and a walkthrough at the end of the day.

You know, these practices we have now,

you could coach these from a bar stool sometimes.

So those guys, it was kind of men were still men. Yeah, I mean, it is crazy to think about how the NFL, like just even seeing the bumblebee thing on top of everyone's helmet, the fact that guys, you know, the first seven days or whatever aren't hitting, and then you think about like 20 years ago, two days and all that stuff.
Yeah, I think those things are good. You like to think we've learned, right? We've improved.
We've gotten better in the grain of safety. And so if we can extend guys' careers, we can keep guys playing a little bit longer and playing at a high level because the way they take care of their bodies today, it's a year-round job, right? It's nonstop the way they get ready to play.
So I think if we can extend careers and have guys play a little bit longer, I think anything we can do in the vein of safety is a good thing. I've got one suggestion.
I'm a little intimidated to tell it to you because you've obviously been around and you've seen a lot more football. But we had Coach Harbaugh from the Ravens on a couple years ago sprinkled this in his ear.
He's an old special teams guy too. So he kind of understood what I was getting at.
But for the onside kick, I've been trying to tell people that a more effective way to do it could be to do a drop kick. So in rugby, which is what I grew up playing, you can get way more air under the ball, obviously, if it hits the ground first, kick it right up in the air.
And the guys that are going to be catching it are going to be the guys that are right up close to the ball. They don't have a lot of experience catching balls like that.
Is that something that you've ever considered? Well, actually, again, if you're going to allow them to do that, you just should allow them to fair catch it like they do in college. And then you put those guys up there that can do that, and hopefully you get a chance to get a fair catch.
If you're the one kicking off, they might not know that it's coming. That's what I'm saying.
I'm trying to say like... On a surprise? On a surprise, and then guys are able to get downfield.
You know, you only got to go 10 yards. The ball's in the air for...
Yeah, I think Coach Harbaugh would agree that we always teach the front line of kickoff return to always assume he's kicking you the ball. And then when he does, you won't be surprised.
That's good. I mean, I've always thought you just kick it as hard as you can at someone's face.
Yeah, I mean, that's why you guys do this shit for a living. Yeah.
Yeah. All right, I have one last question.
We really appreciate this, Coach. It's been awesome.
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Yes, thank you. Appreciate that.
Appreciate that a lot. So the last question is actually from the definition of grit.
This is a stupid question, but what time would your dad go to bed at night? He would wake up at 5, work till 7, and what time would he go to bed? Yeah, I don't know. Probably like 9 o'clock, something like that, 10 o'clock.
And you just watch that every day and you're like,

this is grit. Yeah, I said it as eulogy.

I just feel like he was

the power of example,

not the example of power.

And I think that that was

for me, to some

degree, I've been married 38

years and my wife is a trauma ICU nurse

for 25 years and

so she's the power of example, not the example

of power. And I think throughout my life

I've tried to look towards those people that are the power of example and try to live your life a certain way and I think that's what we're trying to do for our players as well. Us? Do you think we're the power of example? I've never even heard of this shit the Wilders asked me about.
I'd say we're the power of example. I'm glad you guys get to make a living and all that.
Yeah, we make a good living off of being assholes. That's exciting.
Yeah, so that's the power of example. People look up to us.
The way of the world right now. It's the way of the world.
Thanks, Coach. Is there actually, follow up to that, is there anybody in the NFL right now, any coach that you think leads by that power of example? You know, I'm working for one now.
Again, I'm enjoying every day learning from you know, from Matt and what he's doing. And we got a great young staff with a lot of young kids.
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Okay, let's do our Mount Rushmore. We also have an extra bonus.
We are watching the playoff of the playoff, the FedEx Cup Championship playoff. Playoff.
Willie Z is trying to get his first ever PGA Tour win. I bet on him because I've just been pot committed with him.
He's like the human form of the 50-50 raffle for me at this point. So you will also get some reactions throughout the Mount Rushmore.
And Hank is on vacation and Billy is late. So we might have a Billy show up at any point.
I think I've lost maybe two consecutive bets on Willie Z in playoffs. Dude, he's finished second like five times.
It's been infuriating. That first one, I had both him and Justin Thomas, and I cashed out on Justin Thomas.
I was like, you know what? Let's just ride with Willie Z. I feel like this one's different, though.
I think he's built different. I'm knocking on wood.
I'm knocking on wood. I'm also looking forward to Billy coming in because we're taking bets on what his excuse is going to be.
I thought maybe it would be a phone excuse. Like my phone didn't receive the text.

I'd like to change that.

I think he's going to go traffic on this.

Okay.

So I,

I would like to hope that maybe he's shown some growth because in Colorado,

I had a heart to heart with him.

That was basically like,

Hey dude,

sometimes just take an easy L like when you're late,

just be like,

Hey,

my bad.

I fucked up.

Knowing Billy,

he's probably not going to do that, but I'm holding out like hope that i'm basically the guy who you know like i'm in the relationship and just hoping the husband or wife just changes even though they've shown over year over year they're never going to change i'm hoping this time will be different this time he'll walk in and be like my bad guys it'll never happen again it will never happen again right so he was supposed to be here at 6. It's 640.
But let's do the Mount Rushmore. So Hank's on vacation.
That means Batgirl and Memes are running the show. And that also means Batgirl and Memes, I think you guys won the candy draft.
So you get to pick the order. I want it on record.
I'm 2-0 after contributing to Mount rushmore's i've yet to lose in this wow on this show so okay hang the banner wow that's one thing that's one thing to note memes what do you think about that kind of just he's taking all the shine away from the team actually you know what though before you even answer that's that's hank's fault because hank hank makes it an individual award not a team the way that it used to go would be hank would list three and there would be one really good one, and that would always be memes. Yeah.
Be like, yeah, that was me. So what do you think memes? He was in the group chat.
Oh, you're not on. You're not on.
I'm not on. Nope.
Nope. Nope.
Turn the knob. Switch the thing.
All right, Willie Z and Sepp Strack are walking up to the third playoff hole right now willie z's got an all-time forehead tan going on yeah he does it is crazy i love him so much and he just doesn't win he just finishes they were i was i was listening on the way in and they said that he's made 6.7 million dollars this year yeah that's the most money that anyone's ever made without winning a tournament always the bridesmaid yeah so uh it's it's tough all right

so me $7.7 million this year. Yeah.
That's the most money that anyone's ever made without winning a tournament. Always the bridesmaid.
Yeah. So it's tough.
All right. So Memes is going to figure this out.
Maybe he won't. That's fine.
All right. So we're doing the Mount Rushmore of bad ideas.
I can't hear you either, Jake. Uh-oh.
Oh, no. I feel like Hank is sabotaging you.
He definitely has sabotaged. Like, you guys.
Yeah. He's like, wait, wait, Batgirl is crushing it.
But then it would actually be bad for him because you can't go on vacation anymore. And he loves vacation.
Well, he just wants to be wanted. He wants to.
He wants to know that the show cannot happen without him. That's true.
And it's it's seemingly right now feels like that's the fact. The worst thing that you can say to Hank is actually like if, if you tweet at him and say, Hey, Hank, please don't take another vacation.
We need you on the show. It's so much better with you on the show.
He'll be like, God damn it. It's also, P.T.
and I have to filibuster. What are we even going to talk about? Willie just hung his head.
Oh, water. Fuck.
Oh! Oh, it's saved by the rock. Oh, my God.
What does that mean, though? What does that mean? I don't know what golf rules are. I don't know either.
I think he's dead. I think he's dead again.
You can take a club from there, right? I don't think so. You get relief from the retaining wall.
Jake, you're our rules guy. This fucking tournament makes no sense.
He bounced. It bounced on the wall nine times and then settled in.
This is insane. Oh, there you are, memes, I think.
All right, memes here. Memes, what do you want to say? We just saw Willie put it...
Oh, no, that was a buzz. There's a buzz.
There's a buzz on memes, Max. Hank, we miss you.
Yeah, there's a bad buzz. This is great.
We're keeping this all in. This is what the people want.
Turn that down whenever you just turned up. Oh, he's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! He's wet! Yes! Oh, my God.
They're both trying to fuck themselves out of this. Does nobody want to win this tournament? What is happening? I think it's because, like, the more money they win, the less money goes to the kids.
This is insanity. This is going to be great, too, because when we start the show, we're going to tell everyone just tune into the Mount Rushmore to see our instant reaction because this is all happening live for us right now.
Oh, my God. So how do you go in the water after he goes? I'm not.
If I was Sepp, I would simply hit it on the green. Yeah, I shot a 72 at Shinnecock.
I would just be like, let's play it safe here, and let's just go on the green. I broke 140.
Yeah, so boom. All right.
I would have simply used my putter. Yeah, there's still a buzz.
Memes, I think, maybe just turn the microphone off. Oh, the buzz is still there.
That might be Jake's mic now. Oh, it's gone.
It's gone. It's gone.
It's gone. Okay.
All right. Let's reset.
Memes try. Now memes is off.
We're just going to have to go silent memes. Silent memes.
Okay. What's the order? This has been chaos already.
What is the order for... I can't believe that shot.
That's insane. For people who didn't watch the golf, it literally bounced five times and laid right on the rock.
I think it was like nine bounces on the rock. Yeah, and then Sepp went in the water, that fucking fat fuck.
Yeah, okay. All right, here we go.
Here we go. Let's do it.
What's the order? The order is? Mount Rushmore, bad ideas. Bad idea not hitting it on the green when the other guy hits it on a rock.
That's just a little test of what it is. That's a bad lie he's got, though.
Yeah. You think? That thing's buried on the rock.
You should take over Nick Paldo's job. Yeah, but he could just.
That should be his caddy. Take the penalty and drop there, too, if he's not confident.
He might do that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
Maybe he goes to the water again, Sepp. You fucking bitch.
Oh. Bunker.
Bunker. Now you got to take the penalty.
Yeah. All right.
All right. Let's go.
Let's get back on track. This is like the end of that Raiders-Chargers game when nobody wanted to win.
All right. Here we go.
Batgirl. Who's up? Jake's going to go first.
You guys are going to go second. We're going to go third.
Okay. This Mount Rushmore has it all because it's not only going to be a great Mount Rushmore, but we have the PGA playoff and Billy still has to show up at some point.
Okay. Here we go.
Jake. All right.
1-1, bad idea, drinking and driving. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a bad idea.
I didn't know. Yeah, you can't really argue with that.
No, I wanted to. It's a very bad idea.
I was like, wait, but then if I argue, then I'm arguing pro drunk driving. Yeah, yeah.
It's a very bad idea. Yeah, that is a very bad idea.
Murder is also a bad idea. We don't have that on our list, but, uh, I think I'm going to go a little murder.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, murder is a bad idea. So are we second? We're second.
Okay. I think we go with the first one I just texted you.
Yes. That's a pretty bad one.
Yes. Okay.
Having a kid to save your marriage. Very bad idea.
Things are on the rocks. Let's just squirt another human being into the world.
Yeah. I'm sure we'll grow to love each other as we go through one of the most stressful things that a couple can do together.
Yes. Maybe having a kid will fix all of our problems.
That's a very bad idea. I think it's like, you know how they say that money never really changes somebody, just makes somebody more of who they already were? Yeah.
A kid is probably along those same lines where it's like you find the true colors when you have a kid that you're in charge of. As a father or two, I could say kids definitely add stress.
So don't do that. If you're on the rocks, that's a bad idea.
Speaking of on the rocks, Willie Z is trying to hit off a brick right now. Oh, my God.
All right. Max, Batgirl.
Shit, I shouldn't have used your government name. Fuck, that was weird.
So the first one we're going to do is the Wuhan lab in China That was a bad idea That was a really bad idea Shout out I mean memes dominated this one This is just all a meme of everything Of bad ideas so his brain worked Perfectly for this I considered eating a bat On there but I think the Wuhan lab I think history is leaning more in that direction. Yes.
That's a very bad idea. Bad idea.
Still a bad idea to eat a bat, though, for the record. And this is a direct line from Hank for how we're going to phrase this one.
Trying to go to space with a frozen O-ring. So, the Challenger.
Yeah. That's a really bad idea.
Shout out to Challenger. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say about that you guys are going really bad ideas okay we gotta go with a really bad idea PFT maybe we go with the season one that we both talked about and here he is Billy Football welcome to part of my take let's see his excuses his excuse is.
Let's see his comments. I have no excuses.
I'm sorry. Whoa! Wow.
What a moment. That was big, Billy.
Billy, I said we were talking about what you were going to say for your excuse, and I was like, I'm hoping he just takes an L. I feel so shitty.
Okay, but that's big. I know.
Do you want me to make it funny for the listeners, but I'm actually sorry? No. Yeah, I kind of do.
Yeah, sure. I came 15 minutes early to the time I had my head.
Okay. Okay, so it's the same problem we had on the bus where you were like, you just didn't read the text.
Yeah, I blanked. Okay.
I feel terrible. That's okay.
Honestly, it was one of those things where I just had the biggest pan attack. When did you realize you were late? When I texted Jake.
On the side. Yeah, you're a big side texter.
Well, because you guys get annoyed. What is Willie doing? What is he doing? What is he doing? Sorry.
We're also watching golf, Billy. All right.
He's taking the relief. He's taking the relief.
Smart move. Okay, so Billy's here.
We're doing bad ideas. Bad idea not checking the text message thread to see what time we're starting.
Okay, it's okay, Billy. Like, of all the ways to sit down, I thought that was the best thing you could have done.
I said it before. I was like taking an L is a sign of progress.
Just being like, I fucked up. The thing is I don't want to show up late.
No, I know. I know.
I'm really sorry, guys. Don't cry.
It's okay. Don't cry.
Don't cry. We changed the time later last night.
Not that late. It wasn't that late.
It was 7. I'm going to be on i totally saw so we had all today yeah yeah uh what's your uh your flow chart billy in terms of texting people on the side to see like what's really going down when you don't want to make all this mad how does that go jake's the safest bet yeah jake is yeah because he'll have the most leniency um okay uh okay what do you want to do pft i think we go the season one that's a pretty big mistake or is there another like wait which season one well oh yeah yeah okay all right so yeah bad idea this is a historical bad idea multiple times uh invading russia in the winter time bad idea never want to do that bad idea never history will judge you unkindly yes just being like hey you know know where it gets really cold and hard to move tanks? Let's just fucking invade them in September.
Yeah, I bet the- And hope it works out. I bet the Russians won't be that good at fighting a war in the winter.
Yeah. Bad idea.
All right. Bad idea.
You got Jake and Billy are up. Will Zalatour is, by the way, taking a penalty stroke.
But that's okay. That's okay okay because Sepp is in the bunker.
So they're on the same – this will be the same shot that Sepp just took to the bunker. So if Willie Z can get on the green here, we got a chance.
I like his strategy. It's a good strategy.
Yeah. Okay.
Bad idea number two for Team Jilly. We're going to go with taking a dump without checking for toilet paper for us.
Oh, yeah. Really bad idea.
I've once used a coffee filter. I've used my underwear before and just throw the underwear out.
Yep, yep. That's definitely happened.
Magazine pages. Yep.
Back in the day. Just putting your butt in the sink.
I've never done that one. I haven't either.
I have on multiple occasions taken a shower right after.

Right, but I could see sometimes,

I could see people having to put their butt in the sink.

Yep.

Okay.

Willie Z with his approach shot.

He doesn't like it.

Oh, he loves it.

I love it.

He loves it.

He doesn't like it.

He loves it.

So that's for the win for Willie Z.

Okay, next pick. No, no, no.
Whoa. Batgirl.
The snake draft. Foul.
If you go out of order, he's still a rookie. This is me.
This is me. This is me.
This is me. If you go out of order, you lose a turn.
Batgirl. I never said that I was going to make a pick.
I was just chiming in. Oh, you're kind of fucked up.
You guys did the Wuhan lab with your name and everything? I didn't even think about that at the time, but that is kind of fucked up. Yeah, it's fine.
I'll wear that. I'll wear that.
Alright, here we go. Team Jilly.
Staying out too late on a work night. Yeah.
We had that on our list. Entertaining clients on a Wednesday night was actually the specific bad idea.
Now, is it staying out too late that was the issue? It was just a simple matter of the clock? Okay. PFT, I like.
I think we do our hyper-specific one. Yeah.
The football one? Yeah, yeah, let's do that one. Yeah, why don't you do it? Okay, so we had kicking a a field goal down eight with two minutes left and the best quarterback of all time on the opposing team in the nfc championship game yes that would be a bad idea bad idea really bad idea mathematically and and spiritually also just bad vibes from that decision and uh i actually had after the nathaniel hackett interview on friday uh matt lafleur did text me and was like you guys are guys are just never going to let that go.
I was like, never ever. I mean, it's a pretty bad choice.
Here's how bad the choice was. My goal is to never, ever let that go.
Here's how bad the choice was. It's my go-to when I think of coaching mistakes, and it's so bad that it got Big Cat to finally forget about Dan Quinn's field goal.
Yes, yes, that's true. a good point um okay uh bat girl you guys are up this is a good this is a good mount rushmore i like this mount rushmore yeah i'm still gonna say i'm really confused about this snake draft and i don't understand how i'm up that's fine have you ever played fantasy football yeah i don't know i don't know this i'm just being okay real quick i'm gonna show I'm going to show you.
Ready? They went. We went.
You went. You went again.
We went. They went.
They went again. And we went.
Right. Okay.
I'm back. I'm back.
I'm back. I'm back.
For the win. Yes! Boogie! He did it.
We love it. Willie Z.
Yes, Willie. Willie Z.
Incredible. Oh, man.
I love this guy so much. It's kind of weird with three people for the snake draft.
I get what you're talking about. All right.
Thank you. Yeah.
I fucking love this guy so much it's kind of weird with three people for the snake draft i get what you're all right thank you yeah i fucking love this guy so much okay so here we go i finally like that was i've lost so much money betting on him and i finally i'm even i mean now for life he tried very hard to lose this yes sep sep tried even harder oh He's crying. Yeah, of course, dude.
First win. Fucking love this guy.
All right. All right.
Here we go. Late night drunk text to your ex is our third one.
Very bad idea. Very bad idea.
Good call. And we're going to follow it up with drinking as well and the very late night shot round for the team.
Yeah, we had that too. That's a good one.
That's a really good one. Oh, and then Billy just texted the group chat.
Billy just texted his pick to the group chat live. So do we take Billy's? No, I meant to text that to Jake.
Yeah, no shit. So to be fair, Billy, we had some similar ones as you had.
Well, let's just say it because then he can't say it. Yeah, so I thought about doing not pulling out or doing just the tip.
Let's not have sex. Let's just put the tip in and see how it feels.
Okay, PFT, what do we want our last one to be? there's I think actually the G3

won't Um, okay. Uh, PFT, what do we want our last one to be?

Um, there's, I think, I think actually the G3 one is pretty good. Yeah.
Yeah. Let's go with that.
All right. Godfather three.
Really bad idea. Bad idea.
Shouldn't have done it. The, the perfect two movies, probably one of the only times that the, the second is better than the first.
And then they're like, let's fucking roll the dice and go again yeah number three they're gonna do that with top gun too terrible i'm sure of it but yeah godfather three awful movie so much so that people just don't acknowledge that it exists we just don't yeah people don't watch it sometimes i wonder like would godfather three be that bad if godfathers one and two were just like mid yeah but they were they got they got better yeah godfather two got better than one and one was already in a masterpiece so yeah i would love to watch a documentary about godfather three at what point did they realize as they're filming it like hey this is gonna suck yeah but we have to put it out yes yes okay uh next up you guys finish us off finish off hey speaking of finishing us off yeah pull Yeah. Pull out, Billy.
Don't pull out. We can still pick that, right? Yeah, of course.
I mean, we kind of just. Did you like it? Kind of took it up.
Did you like it? Really took the wind out of yourselves. What do you got? You got anything else? I have a decent one.
Wait, wait. Let me see it.
I'm so happy for Will's Outdoors. No.
No. No.
Yeah, not pulling out. Not pulling out.
Wow, I didn't see that coming. So wait, you're saying that pulling out is a good strategy.
It's just if you execute it improperly. Yes.
Okay. Okay, got it.
So wait, yeah. Hold on.
Is it pulling out too late or not pulling No, he's saying general. He's saying not pulling out when you were supposed to pull out.
You're against cream pies. Is that the sound it makes? The deviated set Billy football, anti cream pie.
Put it on. Put on a quote card.
I think we have a shot here. Oh, yeah.
That was rushmore feel good about this one i think that i think that um team team batgirl the wuhan was that one's gonna people are gonna be very excited to vote for that one that's a good one really hurt everyone we also had prohibition imagine that like who the fuck thought prohibition was a Yep. They just said, okay, nobody's allowed to drink anymore.
Cold turkey. Yeah.
I, I also had, uh, uh, investing in beanie babies. That was a really bad idea.
Yeah. There's a documentary that I watched where it's just so funny.
All the people who like, like my, my entire life savings is in beanie babies, but an all time funny meme where they're in court and they're divvying up the beanie babies as part of the divorce i had uh everything that sandler does in uncut gyms yep it's just like why are you doing this the entire movie yeah uh i made a lot of good ideas too i'm actually gonna say like that was actually he did win that parlay at the end this is how that was correct um i a hyper specific one for our good friend tom segura, trying to dunk when you're overweight in your 40s. That's a pretty bad idea, just in general.
Woodstock 99 was a bad idea. Yeah.
Anything that you do after you say the words, watch this, is generally a bad idea. Yep.
I had also strip club before 9 p.m. The guy was just like, let's go to the strip club really early.
That's just a bad idea. Yeah.
You can also make the case for the same person who's like, let's drive to a casino before like 7 p.m. Not when you're in Vegas, because that's just- You go there.
Yeah, you go there to gamble, but being like, yeah, let's just go to the casino. Okay.
Any others? I really wanted to say drafting Jalen Rager, but I thought that may have been specific to myself. I thought about that too.
And I was like, that's too Philly-centric. But I think he's the current one where you're like, you can name all the players that were drafted.
Passing on Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, we thought about doing that specific to you. Yeah, that would have hurt.
Although kind of vindicated with the Deshaun watson part true yeah like listen ryan pace being like hey mr miski got a old beat-up car like he's a good guy turned out to be right that part turned out to be right uh eating greasy food before part of my take yeah what do you mean by greasy jake or anything that could upset your stomach. What about saying a slur on a PLL broadcast? That was a bad idea for you.
Yeah, but luckily they cut it out. They hit the dumb button.
Anything else? About maybe going to a small liberal arts college instead of going to Rutgers and playing quarterback? Yeah. Fuck yeah.
Dude, Billy, you would have been so awesome at Rutgers. Yeah, you would have been.
You would have ran that campus. But no, it's actually.
It's a good thing. But it was a good thing because you're using your degree for this.
It was also kind of good because I went to the college in the middle of the woods and I sort of was like. You became a woodsman.
Yeah. I was hidden.
They don't have any other ones like that wait where were we on grit week the most beautiful college ever in boulder allowed me to disappear for a while yeah yeah that's true um yeah if you were at ruckers it would have you would have been on the radar a lot more that's a fact yeah uh it would have been nice to go to your games though dressed up as like your parents wearing carnations on senior night that would have been great the big pins yeah he stole that from us billy that's okay true that's all right uh okay uh that's the show let's do numbers shout out willie z he fucking did it he finally did it give me 33 i'll go with um what it was willie z's final score can someone find that 16 under right, right? Well, they were tied. No, for today's round.

Oh.

Today's round. I think he shot a 66.

He shot a 66.

I'll go with 66.

26.

4 for memes.

69.

3 for memes.

56.

58. 58 58 Love you guys It's dented too I think the first ever dented ball Can I do a quick recap? I had a who's back I was really excited about No we haven't done that part of the show yet Oh we haven't? Yeah Oh'm really sorry guys back billy coming coming in over prepared 40 minutes late i'm really sorry guys i don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway. Today is another day to find you.
Shine away. I'll be coming for your lover, okay? Shine away.
I'll be coming for your lover, okay Shining away I'll be coming for your lover, okay Needless to say I've got a sentence But I'll be stumbling away Slowly learning that life is okay Say up to me It's better to be safe than sorry Say up to me. It's so better to be safe than sorry.
Say up to me. It's so better to be safe than sorry.
Things that you say isn't a lie, but just to blame my memories away. You are the things I've got to remember.
Are youying away? Or are we coming for you anyway? Are you shying away? Or are we coming for you anyway? Take on me Take on me Take on me out. I'll be gone.
It is true. Take me out.
Take me out. Take me.
Take me up Take me up I'll be gone