76ers Forward Georges Niang, Mt Rushmore Of Foods That Begin With T and Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Philadelphia 76ers George Niang, Iowa State star in studio. Awesome interview with him.
One of the coolest NBA guys we've ever had in studio.

Speaker 1 We have the Mount Rushmore of Foods that start with the letter T.

Speaker 1 We have Firefest,

Speaker 1 and we're in the dog days, but I also saw something that said that we have six Saturdays till college football, so we're getting there. I'm pretty sure it's like 48 days until NFL season starts.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 And did you guys see steph he roasted people he roasted people on the espies oh yeah who could forget the espies oh yeah so i i did not tune in um same not for any reason other than the takeies are next wednesday and they're the greatest award show ever and we actually just finished taping the takeies and i'll say it right now best takeies yet uh but i watched i saw some clips and everyone was like this is where we're at in the sports calendar year people are like oh man steph roasted him and it was literally just steph being like,

Speaker 1 I see some Boston Celtics here. Maybe I'll let them wear my ring.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Yeah.
That's pretty good. Yeah.
So, yeah, that was it. Yeah, I didn't watch.

Speaker 1 It was nothing more than that. I didn't watch because I didn't care.
And I think I was proven right by the reaction to the Esps.

Speaker 1 The only thing worse than watching the Esps is not watching the Espes and then caring about the SPs. Correct.
And what happens during the SPs. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, if you don't watch it and then you're mad about it online, you're a loser. Yes.
Yeah. But speaking of that, we're not mad about something.
We're just going to rectify something.

Speaker 1 Like I said, the Takeys are coming next Wednesday. I'm going to give you a little preview.
The first Takeies giving out right now. Drum roll, please.

Speaker 1 Comeback Player of the Year. We're giving it Trey Mancini.
I think that's well-deserved. He came back from cancer.
I mean, who could top that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was beaten out by Clay Thompson, who came back from an ACL. Trey Mancini came back from cancer.

Speaker 1 But he win a a championship. What? I'm just kidding.
The Orioles? They will. They're home to ACL.
400-1.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wow. Yeah, Hank does not stand up for cancer.
Hank stands up. You stand up for the anthem.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's it. That's it.
But yeah, Trey Mancini, that is it. So

Speaker 1 print it, post it. Orioles fans, Trey Mancini has won the first takeie of 2022.
I wonder what the ratings are.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to kind of go back on what I said earlier about not caring about the SPs and then caring about them after the fact.

Speaker 1 I do want to see what I am very curious to see what the ratings were on the Espys because I feel like when we were kids, the Espys,

Speaker 1 it sounds stupid to say, but like they meant something, maybe. Yeah.
But they didn't. They actually never meant anything.

Speaker 1 No, everyone just thinks about Norm McDonald doing the Espys, and that was awesome. Because he was making jokes in everyone's face.

Speaker 1 And now they just have Steph Curry, who I love Steph Curry, but he... The jokes were just like, that was roasting.
He looked at Grant Williams. He's like, maybe I'll let you wear my ring later.

Speaker 1 It's like, damn. And then there was Steph Curry.
There were some other people that were mad about not getting invited to the Espies. I saw that.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 You should not care about getting invited to the Espies.

Speaker 1 I would actually hate to be invited to the Espies. Yeah, it looks hot.
Really hot. And you have to sit.
You have to buy a suit.

Speaker 1 I did see Russell Wilson, a picture of Russell Wilson and Siara walking out on stage. And

Speaker 1 when I text you phone emoji, that means I'm dialed in. Dialed in.
He was dialed in. He was so dialed in.
It looked like he was wearing the entire pants made out of a giant person's cumber button.

Speaker 1 It was very funny. He had like a fashion tone thing going on.
I'm actually going to give Russell Wilson credit. I think he's crossed

Speaker 1 the line of like he's such a goober that it's it's fun now. I was thinking the dialed in tweet was just like, what is this? I was thinking about that yesterday.

Speaker 1 He's dangerously close to crossing into

Speaker 1 turn on tweet notifications territory.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because like you never know what you're going to get with Russell Wilson. It's going to be extremely corny, but extremely funny.
I didn't know he was dialed in like that. Yep.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Bet on the Broncos. All right, so the other things we have in the sports world, listen, say what you will about the Live Tour,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 them just like trying to get everyone in the entire world to join them is giving us some content. Charles Barkley is the name that everyone has floating out there.

Speaker 1 I will be pissed if they take him and he doesn't do anything else. But Charles Barkley...

Speaker 1 Charles Barkley, I mean, this isn't a shock because he actually, he tells the truth pretty much all the time. He was like, everyone's got relationships that if you dig into, can be a little shady.

Speaker 1 Now, the Live Tour is a little more upfront about it, but Charles Barkley's taking the

Speaker 1 meeting with Greg Norman because he's like, why wouldn't I? And

Speaker 1 that's the first time someone's had a human reaction to the Live Tour where it's like, no, I'm not saying that I promote them. I'm not saying that I'm in.
I'm taking a meeting. I'll take whatever.

Speaker 1 But he even talked about his Nike sponsorship. He's like, I'm a Nike guy.
If you dig too much into that, yeah, there's sweatshops. Right.
They do business with China. Nobody's hands are clean.

Speaker 1 They should. Yeah, they should absolutely like that.
And give them a handicap. Wow, that would be incredible.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about the Live Tour and how everyone says it's a sportswashing thing, right?

Speaker 1 The entire premise of the Live Tour through the public investment fund is to be like a giant commercial for Saudi Arabia. Like, we're not that bad, Saudi Arabia.
We play golf. Right.

Speaker 1 It's been a gigantic failure on that respect because all anyone talks about is how bad Saudi Arabia is when the Live Tour comes up. A little streisand effect.
It's definitely the Streisand effect.

Speaker 1 I wasn't thinking about Saudi Arabia, now I am. Yeah, so they've done a very poor job of using golf to spread soft power in that way because it just is making more people talk about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if you asked just a casual sports fan six months ago thoughts on Saudi Arabia, they'd be like, well, I don't know. And now if you ask them, they're like, oh, yeah, I got thoughts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. So

Speaker 1 I think that's been a failure so far.

Speaker 1 In fact, you could say that every big name that goes over there, they're actually doing a good job spreading the light as to how bad Saudi Arabia is for taking money. Billy had a similar take.

Speaker 1 They're stealing money from Saudi Arabia. Yeah, so they're actually the good guys because it's less money for them if they give it back.

Speaker 6 They're not unlimited money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like Robin Hood. No, but they're taking it back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 but they're taking it for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Everyone's got a limit. If they hire all of us, then we get all of their money.
I want to see Dave help. As long as gas.

Speaker 6 I mean, I'm not a world-renowned educated person, but as long as

Speaker 1 I was wondering where that was going.

Speaker 1 And I like where you laughed.

Speaker 6 As long as gas exists, like they have unlimited money.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to be like, yeah, I'm not really up on geopolitical.

Speaker 1 No, it was just world-renowned educated person.

Speaker 1 You never say world-renowned educated person and think of Hank.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 But am I wrong?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 you're not wrong. They do have a lot of money.
They've got a lot of gas. They got a lot of gas.
They got a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 that's basically. And then the other sports story that I had was

Speaker 1 it's its official like change your uniform season because we had the Bengals with the with the all-white uh stripes helmets like a month ago.

Speaker 1 The Giants unveiled their throwbacks that they're going to be wearing, and I think the Cowboys also are going to wear the white helmet now for a couple games.

Speaker 1 I did like our friend Clem, our colleague Clem, who's a big-time Giants fan. His analysis of the

Speaker 1 Giants using their throwback jerseys was spot on. He said it makes makes them slower, but stronger on defense and better tacklers.
And I would say harder to tackle, too.

Speaker 1 It's got a little Ron Dane vibe to it. Yeah, so that's good.
So if you're trying to handicap it, just know that. They're not going to beat anyone at track meet, but they will be

Speaker 1 sound on defense and play stronger. I think that the Bengals' white helmets, it makes them faster on offense.

Speaker 1 They'll score like, I think Joe Burrow will score five passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns wearing those helmets, but special teams will be a liability. Yes.

Speaker 1 Kick coverage, especially, and kickoff returns. Yes.
I don't see that working out well. And then the Cowboys helmet is just another cool helmet we get to watch the Cowboys blow a primetime game in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'll be like, oh, they have two receivers that kind of look in body type like Terrell Owens. Right, right.

Speaker 1 And maybe we get the actual benefit of Mike McCarthy after the game being like, I just blame the helmets for that play call. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I did not like what the Giants did. I feel victimized.
We should feel victimized victimized as a podcast, what the Giants did with their new uniforms. They're wearing them two nights this year.

Speaker 1 Two nights, big cat. They're called Legacy Games.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Eli, another retirement. You know who they're playing in those legacy games? Ooh.
Washington football team? The Commanders and the Bears. Oh.
Specifically. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 They singled us out as a podcast. No, they absolutely did.
And so we're on notice. We have to show up for those legacy games.
Yeah, they were like, we got to win these legacy games.

Speaker 1 Here are the two teams we can beat. Yes, these are the two easiest teams on our schedule.
Let me just look at the legacy games. The schedule.
Giants schedule 2022.

Speaker 1 That's unfortunate because I assume these are. Either one of those games can be Thursday night games.
They both give off Thursday night vibes.

Speaker 1 I would assume they're home games, right? They have to wear these at home.

Speaker 1 Probably. Yeah, so let's just see.
So they have their.

Speaker 1 This does suck. This does feel like we've been single.
Yes. Oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 They do have the Panthers on September 18th. Oh, no, that's the pre- Oh, no, that's the regular season.
Yeah, so they have the Panthers. You'd think maybe that would have been.

Speaker 1 It was that bad because now we're worse than the Panthers. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that feels in the national mindset. I think if you say Washington Commanders versus Carolina Panthers, just in general, I'm not talking about this specific roster.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about just strictly based off vibes. I think the Panthers are like a little bit better than both of our teams.
Yes, yes. All right.

Speaker 1 So I'm looking at it right now: Panthers, Cowboys, Bears. So that's smart by them.
Ravens, they're definitely not beating them. Texans, they didn't do the Texans.
At home?

Speaker 1 So this also probably, here's, see, PFT, we're thinking about the wrong way. Yes, it's probably because they want to win their legacy games, but they also chose like historic franchises.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you can't go up against, you can't do legacy game against the Texans. You can't do that.

Speaker 1 That's a one o'clock kickoff that people are like on the red zone channel like, oh shit, that game's going on.

Speaker 1 Also, I feel like using the legacy, the oomph that you would get from having those throwback unis against the Texans would feel a little wasteful. Yeah.
It's like we

Speaker 1 could have beaten the Texans without these. Yes.
Like this is is just like they're a team that we're confident that we can win. We just want to make sure that we win.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, anything else in sports? I don't, I mean, yeah, yeah, the big news, contract news. Oh, Kyler Murray.
Yes. Signed an extension.
I think he had, what, $160 million

Speaker 1 guaranteed.

Speaker 1 So that's happening. So, Kyler Murray, I guess he's putting, probably refollowing them on Instagram now officially.

Speaker 1 I'd like him to unblock me so I can congratulate him. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money.
Right now, do you think they overpaid for Kyler Murray? How much was it again?

Speaker 1 Is this now, is this Schefter dollars? Jake has

Speaker 1 $230.5. Is that Schefter dollars? That is Schefter dollars.
Run that through the guaranteed money conversion. Do we have a guaranteed money conversion? I think it's $160 million.
It's in that ball.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it's overpaid.

Speaker 7 $160 guaranteed.

Speaker 1 I think they overpaid for him, too. I really do.
They only offered Pat Tillman $9 million. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Kyler is sick at Call of Duty, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Isn't he like 100 Thieves or something? Phase K1? Phase.

Speaker 6 Phase K1.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Jake, question or no, comment to you. Do you have in your calendar that we got to bet the Cardinals in September?

Speaker 7 We have him as Mr. September October.

Speaker 1 Okay, great. Because I actually, this is when you know football's coming back.
September 8th.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to think about my bets, and I literally said to myself, like, no joke, I was walking to work, and I was like,

Speaker 1 I think Cardinals week one is going to be my lock of the week. Oh, I like that.
Yeah, so like, I'm getting into that mode where it's like, all right, what's the week one card looking like?

Speaker 1 I think that there are certain quarterbacks that you can do that. It's like they're Kyler's engineered to be an early season guy.

Speaker 7 He's a home against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 It's a good game. He's got a great line there.
Yeah, good line. Track meet.
And the Chiefs don't have Tyreek. Hopkins back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, wait, or is he suspended for

Speaker 1 some kind of something? Yeah, he's definitely.

Speaker 1 I feel like Kyler's a good guy to bet on in September, October. Colt McCoy is a good quarterback to bet on for like one week.
It's mid mid-November. I was going to say week 15.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 mid-November, maybe late November. Yeah.
That's Colt McCoy territory. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 But that's, it's exciting to have like the thought, ooh, I wonder what my week one lock's going to be and have it not be that far away. I mean, mine's already the over in the first game.
Yeah, Bills.

Speaker 1 Rams, Sunday Night Football. That's going to be fucking electric.
God damn it. Get here, football.
All right. Let's do

Speaker 1 our

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore, and then we will do our interview with George Nang, which was awesome in studio. And then we'll wrap up with Firefest.

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Mount Rushmore foods that start with tea. Who's going to start?

Speaker 6 Well, maybe we can pick the order since we won the last one.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 why don't we pick the order if we won the one before that?

Speaker 6 Well, I'm just going off of the precedent you guys sent last episode.

Speaker 1 Did we pick the order last episode? Yeah, we did? I don't think we did. I think you picked the order.
No, we did not. Yeah, no, we didn't pick the order.
We did the ball. We picked the ball.

Speaker 1 Erroneous. Erroneous.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead, Hank. Why don't you pick the ball first?

Speaker 6 12. I feel like it's coming up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Billy?

Speaker 1 69. 69? All right, so we should go somewhere in the middle.
Yeah, let's go with 30. Let's go 20.
25?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 35. Yeah, it's going to be 21.
35.

Speaker 1 You know, 21. You guys keep giving us the best spam numbers.
Yeah, doesn't matter. We haven't been winning.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, Hank. Thank you.
So what's the order?

Speaker 6 Let's go with us one,

Speaker 6 you guys second,

Speaker 6 Billy and Jake third.

Speaker 1 Interesting. There's

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 there's some good foods here, but there's also it's a top-heavy draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Go ahead.
Tacos. Shit.
Okay, yeah. Obvious one, one.

Speaker 1 Obvious one, one. That was the most obvious one, one ever.
Tacos Rock. Yeah, tacos are the fucking best.
I had Taco Bell for breakfast today. Great hell.

Speaker 6 Great breakfast.

Speaker 1 Great breakfast, man. Crunch Wrap Supreme.
Fuck. Choke me out with a leather leash and throw me into a volcano.
God damn it.

Speaker 6 I'm going to put it on the list, but I'm going to support it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bonk, but it was a justified bonk.

Speaker 6 Can you repeat that again just for the record?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Crunch Wrap Supreme, breakfast, Wrap Supreme from Taco Bell. I want it to choke me out with a dog collar on a leather leash, and then I want it to throw me into a real volcano.
Nice.

Speaker 1 That's fire sauce. Yeah.
They actually make fire sauce straight from a volcano. Yeah.
That's how good it is. Imagine if they had lava in that.
Peg me with a frozen popsicle made out of

Speaker 1 their hot blasts. Yeah, pop blasts.
There you go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We're going to go with our. We got the second pick.
Yep.

Speaker 1 All right. We're going to go with

Speaker 1 T-Bone. Fuck.
T-Bone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And B.K., you really like T-Bone.

Speaker 1 We should start calling you T-Bone. Yeah, T-Bone.

Speaker 1 That's tough. T-Bone steaks are delicious.
T-bone. It's all downhill for me.
Billy, probably can't even name the difference. They were good.
There are some cuts to me. Yeah, there's some good ones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get half New York strip, you get half filet.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 1 T-bone. Yeah.
All right. Billy, you don't like meat?

Speaker 1 I thought we'd get away with that one. Yeah, nope.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 First, we're going to go turkey.

Speaker 1 Oh, first. Okay.

Speaker 1 Interesting. And then Billy.
You know who the real turkey is? Obama.

Speaker 1 Then we're going to go with tenderloin. Oh.

Speaker 1 All right. What kind of tenderloin? Because you got pork, you got beef.

Speaker 1 Beef.

Speaker 1 So it's a B-word.

Speaker 1 No, it's tenderloin, beef.

Speaker 1 Okay. So it's a worse cut of meat than the T-bone.

Speaker 7 Yes, that doesn't qualify.

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't qualify.

Speaker 1 We wanted him to, because maybe we'll take Tenderloin

Speaker 1 pork. Who knows? All right.
PFT, I think we go with the third on that list. Yeah, yep, for sure.
Third. We're going to go with tortilla chips.
Yeah. Love tortilla chips.
Who doesn't?

Speaker 1 Snack on them, dip them. Queso.

Speaker 1 Salsa, guacamole.

Speaker 1 Tortilla chips, baby. You guys going to have any? Oh, no, you can't.
You can't have any tortilla chips with your tacos because we took them. That's too bad.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Icy stare.
Hint of lime. No,

Speaker 6 I'm reviewing our list. This is where it gets.
This is where.

Speaker 1 Did you have tortilla chips?

Speaker 6 This is where champions get made.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We will go with tomato soup. Ooh.
Okay. A little gaspacho?

Speaker 1 Yeah, wait a minute.

Speaker 6 Real cheese and tomato soup.

Speaker 1 So you're talking about the cream of tomato soup.

Speaker 6 The fuck other kind of tomato soup is there.

Speaker 1 Well, Piquette just said gaspacho. It's a cold one.
That's what the fuck other kind of tomato soup is.

Speaker 6 Wait, it's Mount Rushmore of tea. Foods that start with tea.

Speaker 1 It is a tomato soup. So why the f would I be talking about gazpacho? Do you just censor yourself? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, the F.

Speaker 1 Okay, good pick. Tomato soup on a cold day.
Yeah. It's nothing better.
And then we'll go with tortellini. Oh, tortellini.
Good pick. Good pick.
Good pick. Good pick, Hank.
Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 All right, Piety. I think we go with our fourth there, and then we save the last one.
The last one, yeah.

Speaker 1 So you want to say it, or you want me to say it? I'll say it.

Speaker 1 We're going to go with Twix.

Speaker 1 Twix. Candy bar.
Delicious. You got chocolate.

Speaker 1 Caramel cookie crisp. I think Twix

Speaker 1 is the candy bar, unlike any other one, where like, I don't think anyone has Twix as their number one, but everyone has Twix in their top, like, three or four. Yes.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, it's the most consistent. Like,

Speaker 1 no one really bashes Twix. It shows up all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Frozen too. Oh, so good.
It's like a possession receiver. Yes, right, exactly.

Speaker 6 Nice long crunch.

Speaker 1 A long crunch. You get 800 yards out of them.
Twix is just a solid worker. You know what I like about Twix is it's about the size of a standard candy bar, but there are two of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the best part. Double the pleasure, double the fun.

Speaker 1 Are you a left Twix guy or right Twix guy? I go left first.

Speaker 1 Always. I actually don't know.
I think

Speaker 1 I like to bite both of them at the same time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just double fist. I go savage Twix style.
All right. The boys, Jilly.

Speaker 7 all right so this one has two words in it i've heard it both ways so hopefully you guys approve teriyaki chicken

Speaker 1 i google it you guys are

Speaker 1 really really some people

Speaker 1 teriyaki some people said chicken teriyaki some people say teriyaki chicken teriyaki is like the seasoning yeah and you already did the other one i think it has to be seasoning comma teriyaki i think you could pick teriyaki that's a sauce yeah you could put that's a food you could pick teriyaki i don't think you get teriyaki chicken if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 So did you guys get tortilla chips? Yeah, we did. We got tortilla chips.
They're tortilla chips. There are specific kind of chips.
That's actually a good point by Billy.

Speaker 1 You actually are just getting tortillas. No, it's made from a tortilla.
Tortillas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's made from a tortilla. But by teriyaki chips.
Chips are made from the tortilla. What are you talking about? Chicken.
The chips are made from the tortilla.

Speaker 1 But it's just, we're talking about words here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to give them teriyaki chicken. Okay, thank you.
I don't think. I think they have tortilla chips.
No, but I think think

Speaker 1 tortilla chips are literally made from the tortilla. You know how they make it? They make potato chips.
Right. We didn't take potato chips.
Right, but like tortilla chips. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We took the tortilla chips because they're made from tortillas.

Speaker 1 So we took the teriyaki chicken because this was from teriyaki chicken. It's made with teriyaki.
No, it's made, it's not made from teriyaki. It's made with teriyaki.
Yeah, but back on their side.

Speaker 1 On whose? Yours. Yeah.
Tortilla chips are made from tortillas. No, but tortilla chips are made with tortillas and salt.
No, they're made from tortillas. They're exactly teriyaki.

Speaker 1 No, they're fried tortilla.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, you could take teriyaki.
Teriyaki is a good pick. Terika is not a food.
Yeah, it's not a food. It's a sauce.
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 It's a sauce and it's a style of cooking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like that. All right.
So what are we judging? You want to flip a coin. No, flip a coin.
Flip a coin. I say we give them.
No, that's not a food. No, no, no.
We want a tequila so bad.

Speaker 1 It's not a food.

Speaker 1 I'll let you guys hear. We'll decide.
Odds are even. PFT will watch behind me.
You guys pick. Do odds are even for a.
No, let's get it. Yeah, odds are even.
No, no, no. There's a debate.
We We don't.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, that's fine. Odds are even for the lottery ball.
What do you guys want?

Speaker 7 But there are some restaurants that recognize it as teriyaki chicken.

Speaker 1 Odds are even. I've heard it.
I think it's a 50-50. Let's go.
I order a chick. Oh, I order a chicken teriyaki.
Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 That's integrity. So, 50-50.
So we won't have to be. Actually, teriyaki beef jerky.
Oh, my God. You're doing the exact same thing, just don't jerk.
Oh, damn, he got us there.

Speaker 1 Also, that would not win over teriyaki chicken. Yeah, teriyaki chicken is delicious.
All right, odds are even. We're going to leave it up to the

Speaker 1 machine. Even?

Speaker 1 You got one machine? Did you try that one odd, Billy?

Speaker 1 Billy would have picked odds. Billy, would you have picked odds? It's numbers.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Nihilist.

Speaker 1 Odd.

Speaker 1 All right, now.

Speaker 7 That doesn't count. So, Billy, I'm going to overrule you here on this next one.
I think a lot of people like it. Tater Tots.

Speaker 1 Oh, good pick. Ooh, that's a great thing.
Thank you. Billy didn't want that one.
Damn. You didn't want Tater Toss? You didn't want Tater Toss? Oh, no, no.
Tater Tots. I wanted.

Speaker 1 How could you not want Tater Toss? I wanted Teriyaki Chicken over Tateri Toss. Were you trying to do an entire keto Mount Rushmore? No, maybe.
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 Tater tots just never end up getting eaten. Oh, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I love them. Oh, thank you for vouching for a pick.
Yes, that's a very good pick. You're trying to talk yourself out of it.
I'm mad at ourselves for not coming up with tater tots.

Speaker 6 That's almost worse than not picking Snape who's a good guy the whole time.

Speaker 1 You're talking about Tater Tots like it's coleslaw. Yeah, Tater Tots.
No, we picked Tater Tots. I just liked chicken teriyaki over Tater Tots.
That was the whole discrepancy. Right.

Speaker 1 Tater Tots are a great pick. One source of the tea, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Ooh, this is. If you don't have anything else, we're going with it.

Speaker 1 No, I got one.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I have no idea what this is going to do.

Speaker 1 It's coming off the rip.

Speaker 1 Give us a. Tuna sushi.
Tuna sushi. Would you like to just have tuna?

Speaker 1 You could, I mean,

Speaker 1 tuna's a good pick.

Speaker 1 I had tuna on my list. Tuna.
Tuna's a good pick. Tuna.
You also get probably tuna salad along with that. You guys got a lot of tuna salad.
You get all the tuna. Tuna tartare.
Very good.

Speaker 1 Tartar, tuna sushi, the actual like eating a tuna fish. Tuna sashimi.
Tuna sandwich. Tuna sandwich.
That's a good. You guys got some good picks there out of tuna.
Tuna steak.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Somehow you guys talked yourselves into a good pick. Yeah.
All right, our last pick. PFT, go ahead, take it away.

Speaker 1 So this is a pick that I think that if you look at the rest of the Mount Rushmore, you're going to need this one on anybody's list. Tums.

Speaker 1 Clean it up with some Tums. Tums.
Snack them down. Yep.
Is that a food?

Speaker 6 That's a great question, Billy.

Speaker 1 Great question.

Speaker 6 Billy asked it not me. Is that a food stuff?

Speaker 1 But it's a purple stuff. You eat it.
Is that a food stuff? You eat it. It's a food.
What do you do with Tums? Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 6 What aisle is in the grocery store?

Speaker 1 What do you do with it?

Speaker 1 What do you do? Who registers it? Answer the question. What aisle is in grocery stores.
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 What do you do with Tums? You meditate with it. What do you do with medicine?

Speaker 1 What do you do with Advil? Advil is a food. What do you do with Tums?

Speaker 1 No, it's different because you digest it.

Speaker 6 You digest it. Because you need it to get into your skin.

Speaker 1 You chew it and you swallow it. No, that's a medicine, bro.
You chew it.

Speaker 1 Tums.

Speaker 1 Tums. That's a medicine.
Tums pick. We're on the right side of history.
Do you take tums or do you eat tums? I have a tums, is what I do.

Speaker 1 I eat it.

Speaker 1 Hey, do you want to go take some tums? No, I eat it.

Speaker 6 Is there any restaurants that you can buy tums at?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Do you take

Speaker 1 a foodstuff? Where? Sure, a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 The subways that are attached to a pilot gas station?

Speaker 1 Tums is not a foodstuff.

Speaker 1 It is food. You eat it.
It is not a food stuff.

Speaker 1 The F TA, which is food and drugs. What the fuck does food stuff?

Speaker 1 Food stuff is how they classify.

Speaker 1 Wait, you know what's interesting? It's getting contentious. I love it.
You know what's interesting about Tums is they have nutrition information. No, they don't.
Yes, they have sodium, 5 milligrams.

Speaker 1 No carbohydrate, 2 grams. I'm going to go to the 2000.
Sugar is 2 grams. Dude, so does Advil.
Dude,

Speaker 1 do they have a warning label? Do they have a warning label? I highly doubt Tom's does. Tums has a warning label.
If you guys want to take it off, that's fine. Take it off.
No, I think we do this, PFT.

Speaker 1 We fucking switch it up on them with that bad boy.

Speaker 1 By the way, Advil, I don't think has a nutrition.

Speaker 1 Because it's only, it does. It just says acetamatophila drinks also.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Tobacco leaves.
Yeah. Tobacco leaves.
That is not a tobacco. You chew it.
You chew it up. That is not a cheap.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Which one do you want? I'll let you pick.

Speaker 1 You want to give us tobacco or you you want to give us tobacco? No, this isn't a choice.

Speaker 6 I'll give you tobacco because people are going to be like, this is the dumbest Mount Rushmore ever. No, but they can't.
You're picking Mountain Rushmore foods and you picking tobacco.

Speaker 1 No, you cannot. You can give us tobacco, Tums, or teriyaki chicken.

Speaker 1 I will let you guys choose tobacco if I'm going to go buy some Red Man and you have to eat it. Yes.
Yeah. Yes.
Eat it. Swallow.
Eat it. I like that.
If you can find Red Man.

Speaker 1 In the next 30 minutes, then you're on. I have some at my desk.
Oh, bring it in here. You've been holding it out on us? Yes, get it, Billy.

Speaker 1 No, just keep going down the list. You want to eat it? All right, fine.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll eat the pick. But if you don't want that, we'll do our last pick.
Fine, we'll cancel both of them. Our last pick is Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 We had all these on our list. Yeah, we had all these on our list.

Speaker 1 Which one do you guys want us to take?

Speaker 1 Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know. Billy, go get the Red Man.
It's Taco Bell. Taco Bell's an incident.

Speaker 6 No, it's not. It's a restaurant.

Speaker 1 No. Billy, go get the red man.
I'm not going to make you swallow the red man. I want it to go.
Billy, you definitely don't have it. Go get it.
He called my bluff. He called my bluff.

Speaker 1 He's a liar.

Speaker 1 He says a fucking liar.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting there. Sitting on my desk.
So we have Taco Bell. What's our pick? Taco Bell socks and tobacco? It sounds like a great Saturday.
Dude, that's perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Get him tobacco slash Tums. I don't care.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Tums and Tobacco.

Speaker 1 Just put that on the graphic. You guys have no integrity for it.
On the graphics. It's fine.
You have it. Just put cheating for the graphics.
This is what Mount Rush War season's about, though.

Speaker 1 Everybody's arguing about the dumbest things possible in the middle of July.

Speaker 6 I suppose so.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's definitely what it's supposed to be about. A lot of pressure on you guys for your last pick.
Yeah. We just took tobacco, tumbled, and taco tumbled.
Cheer domination.

Speaker 6 So we got tacos, delicious, tomato soup, great soup.

Speaker 1 Oh, you didn't say delicious?

Speaker 1 What was our third pick?

Speaker 1 Tortoise.

Speaker 6 So we have a broad variety. That's a great meal.
That's a great meal in general. If you have a meal with tacos, tomato soup, tortellini, you're eating good.

Speaker 1 It's like the Jimmy V speech. For dessert, tier Masu.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Good pick. We had Tir Masu awesome.
I don't like it. Yeah.
Give me a tick. You?

Speaker 1 Yeah, me. I don't like Tiramasu.
That says something. You just, you just

Speaker 1 like coffee?

Speaker 1 You just walked into that trap, Hank. I'm the man who will eat every dessert in the world.
Tiramasu is bottom-tier dessert. It's all fancy.
It's all chicks. Yes, it's fancy.

Speaker 1 It's good though.

Speaker 1 I agree with the price, but it's delicious. Give me ice cream, give me Twix, give me fucking gummy bears, give me cookies.
Yeah, but some restaurants don't have those options. Give me ice cream cake.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 some nice restaurants, they only have like, it's like a shitty like pumpkin cake or tiramisu.

Speaker 1 No, it's true. It's super consistent.
No, no, no. It's not consistent.

Speaker 1 You can say that tiramisu is good when it's cooked well. It's delicious.
But when it's bad, it's really bad.

Speaker 1 I would actually put Tres Leches cake above Tiramisu. I'd put souffle over Tiramu.
That doesn't start with the tea.

Speaker 1 I would also take ice cream over Tiramisu.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just, if you look at any nice restaurant, you go, Tiramisu's on the menu for desserts. I guarantee you they have some type of ice cream, apple pie, like brownie.
They're all better.

Speaker 1 They're all better. I think Tirmasu is also the main dessert.
It's a little bit of a terra tea. It's the main dessert that you completely have with your table.

Speaker 1 You're like, let's get a tiramisu and then let's order some other stuff that we actually want to have all of. Yeah, fair.
I'll take a bite of tiramisu. People say that all the time.

Speaker 1 Like, can I just have one bite of your tiramisu? I don't like, so the taste of tiramisu isn't bad.

Speaker 1 It's the texture that I don't like. I don't like the texture of tiramisu.
I don't mind it. But if it's cooked poorly, it's very bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was good. That was a very contentious Mount Rushmore.
What do we have left off? Feels good to yell at you. Turkey Tetrace.

Speaker 1 Like over T words. Tetrazzini.
Oh, wow, Billy, you missed a big one. Turkey Tetrazzini.
Testosterone. You can't eat that.

Speaker 1 Maybe you can't eat it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like Twiszlers or Tier Masu. Twizzlers.
I love Twizzlers. We also had Three Musketeers.
Some people don't like that, though. Would Tapas have counted? Nope.
No.

Speaker 7 I was thinking Tequenos.

Speaker 1 See, here's the thing with Tier Masu too, Hank.

Speaker 6 If we had done tortilla soup, would that have counted?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tiramasouk is coffee flavored. Just drink the coffee.
It's way better.

Speaker 1 Get ice cream and apple pie and have a cup of coffee. That's a dessert, baby.
Keep a little digestion going. Timbits.

Speaker 1 Timbits. Very good.

Speaker 1 We had Triscuits. I like Triscuits.
People have been slandering Triscuits. They're fine.
Totinos, pizza rolls count? Yeah. We had those.
We had those.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true. Is that pizza rolls?

Speaker 2 Like, is that the brand?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is why I like doing these alphabet ones. What about really get you in a.
What about Takis? Would Takis have counted?

Speaker 6 Yeah, we almost did Taquitos. We almost just did all taco stuff, but like

Speaker 6 would it have been a force if we did tacos, taquitos, taco dip, and taco salad?

Speaker 1 Would have been fun. Yeah, he probably would have won.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, not going to anymore. No, you're not going to win.

Speaker 1 Teziki sauce? Yes. That's a good one, too.
Sauce. But it's good.
You guys, you're on. Tabasco.

Speaker 1 Tabasco.

Speaker 1 So we got it.

Speaker 1 We had titties.

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah, okay.
We got to do the Mount Rushmore of like one-letter sauces.

Speaker 1 Should we do sauces once we've done this? We've done sauces. But if we narrow it down,

Speaker 1 actually, I think the sauce Mount Rushmore was the original contentious one. Yeah, this is when you box it into a letter,

Speaker 1 it gets spicy.

Speaker 1 I think we just unlocked a lot of Mount Rushmores we can do. Sauces with a bee? Yeah.
Buffalo. When? Barbecue.
No, I'd be cheap. Barbicuffalo.

Speaker 6 Bosniak.

Speaker 1 Bosniak?

Speaker 1 What's that? It's a great sauce. What?

Speaker 1 Is this another invention?

Speaker 1 Is that a person? Is that an ethnicity?

Speaker 1 Bosniak?

Speaker 1 Bosniak sauce? Sounds like a...

Speaker 1 Sounds like something involved in the communist revolution. Bosnian meatball sauce.
Bosnik. Bosnian sauce.
Bosniak sauce. How do you spell it? Can you use it in a sentence?

Speaker 1 Bolognese. Great.
Oh, Bolognese is a sauce. It's a great sauce of the bee.

Speaker 7 It's my favorite pasta.

Speaker 1 Boumil. Booby milk.
Booby milk, yeah. Fuck.
Bolognese, that's a great miss. It wasn't a miss.

Speaker 1 What? For the tea. Oh, yeah, one of my.

Speaker 1 Now, Bosnia caught me all the time.

Speaker 1 We got lost in this. What is Bosnia? Bosnia just threw me in a spiral where

Speaker 1 he said a word and just thought we'd be like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Bosnia.

Speaker 1 I should have picked Bolognese. Right now I'm stuck in a...
I'm stuck in a back and forth on Google where it says, did you mean Bosniak sauce? Yes.

Speaker 1 And then he goes to that page and says, did you mean Bosniak sauce? I click it again.

Speaker 1 How'd you know Bosniak? Or did you mean bisque? Oh, is this from the Balkans? Yeah. This is from Bosnia? Yeah, you haven't had it?

Speaker 6 What gave it away?

Speaker 1 Bosniak chicken. What it was right there if we were doing the bees.
Bosniak. All right.

Speaker 1 Great Mount Rushmore. I had fun with that, boys.
That felt good to have a little disagreement. It is.

Speaker 1 If Mount Rushmore at its core is you got to just find the dumbest thing to argue about with your friends in the middle of the summer.

Speaker 4 You just described Congress.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 This is what we, this is what we get up, why we lift all them weights.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview. We got George Ngang in studio.
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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in studio, Philadelphia 76ers, George Niang. Thank you for coming in.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We're only going to ask like four Ben Simmons questions.

Speaker 4 Dang, we're not over that yet.

Speaker 1 Oh, we have more. We could do all of them.

Speaker 1 Do you want to ask us a Ben Simmons question? Yeah. Yeah, watch us.
He's in New York now. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Good question. Yes, yes.
Brooklyn. Correct.

Speaker 4 How do you guys feel about him?

Speaker 1 I feel strongly about him in many, many types of ways.

Speaker 4 Are you going to get into detail? Are you just going to give me the hint of the player?

Speaker 1 No, no. We've said on the show before that if there was no basket, he would be the best basketball player in the league.
Elite. Elite passer.
Incredible.

Speaker 4 Elite defender.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Do you still talk to him at all?

Speaker 4 No, so I was never really close.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if I had his phone number. You showed up at the 76ers when he said he didn't want to play for them anymore.
That's awkward. Yeah, that is awkward.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, we'll go with an an easier question.

Speaker 1 How sick is Joel Embiid? Because he's just a monster. Oh, dude.

Speaker 4 He's like, and I don't even think he knows how good he can be. Because when he gets angry and is dominant, there's been a couple of times where he's had 50, 46, 37.
And he says, I'm not even trying.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah, I went to a game a few years ago. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 I think it was the Rockets. It was actually James Hardman's playing the Rockets still versus the Sixers.

Speaker 4 and i remember just watching him down low and like putting it off the glide like the ball looks like a he's playing with like a little tiny ball yeah next to his body and he just like controls everything and people forget like usually big men like now in this day and age like it's easy to double team and like people are double teaming triple teaming he's like shooting mid-range jumpers over them going by them dunking on them so i mean i just think it's impressive obviously i'm gonna i'm on the joe al and be campaign of why he didn't win mvp but yeah it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Do you ever have to team up in practice?

Speaker 4 No, that's not my position. I stay far away.

Speaker 1 You stay far away? You never have to double team him? Yeah, no, whoa.

Speaker 4 But no, sometimes, but

Speaker 4 I wouldn't say he's ultra competitive in practice. I mean, he can glide through practice, but when he's on, like if we're practicing before the playoffs, I would say nobody's really touching him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can you tell going into a game if he's like, if he's pissed off, if he's ready to go, like totally locked in like nobody's gonna be able to stop this guy tonight um

Speaker 4 you know he probably gives us like a heads up like a watch this

Speaker 1 and then you're like yeah all right joel yeah he looked awesome in the mask i think he should wear the mask full-time yeah you think so yes i don't know how i could do something like that you know what i mean i'm i'm such a simple guy but that would just like yeah annoy me but he was a he is a beast mask or no no mask yeah yeah he i mean his playoffs where he was just like every day was a different body part he got injured and he was still out there um so your your career is crazy, man.

Speaker 1 Have you had a moment where you're like, I've not made it, but you got drafted in the second round. A lot of second rounders don't make it in the NBA.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 You went to the G League, then you worked your way back. You know, you signed a few contracts here.

Speaker 1 Like that, it's a hell of a story when you actually kind of piece it all together because there's a lot of guys. They get drafted in the second round.

Speaker 1 Either they don't make the team or they're on the team for a year. G League, they go over to Europe and then it's over.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, I was looking the other day just for my own personal mind or benefit, and I think it's like me and like three other guys that got drafted in the second round that are still in the NBA, and it's like Malcolm Brogdon, me, and then I want to say it's like Drake Lehman, who was my AAU teammate.

Speaker 4 But yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm not going to lie to you and say that I thought it was all going to be easy. Like, I got cut from my first team in Indiana, and fucking I was like, did I just blow my only opportunity in the NBA?

Speaker 4 And then you kind of go, you know, second-year guys that get cut usually go to the G-League and kind of fizzle out. But I kind of like sacrificed everything.

Speaker 4 Like, I remember I was doing whatever anybody asked. They're like, you need to improve your body.
I went vegan. You need to, you know, make more shots.

Speaker 4 I started doing like this 300-shot routine before practice and lifting every day.

Speaker 4 And the biggest thing for me was just realizing that if I quit, it gave someone else an opportunity behind me to be one step closer. So I was like, fuck it.

Speaker 4 I'll just continue to eat shit and not quit.

Speaker 4 And whatever happens like I can live with if that's going overseas and it's going overseas but I know as cliche and like corny as it sounds like you're probably like oh don't quit no it's not fucking no it's not at all it was just like I just kept showing up every day good bad or indifferent if I felt like shit felt great I was just like all right I'm gonna show up and do like these three things in my routine and fucking it landed me in Utah I never thought I'd be in Utah and then four years later later it landed me in Philadelphia and that's kind of like this year was kind of like where my career kind of you know took off and people were like, oh, shit, like he's a legit rotation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can contribute to a team.

Speaker 1 So was there a moment when you were doing all these things, taking, you know, 300 shots before the game, lifting, vegan, all that stuff, where you hit a moment where you're like, I'm, I'm way better now.

Speaker 1 Like, I've, I can see that I'm so much better.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't think it's like a moment. I think it's like you.

Speaker 4 You take time to look back at what you've done and like a small stint and you're like, damn, like, I've been fucking good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, I was was in the G League. I was like, damn, I'm good.

Speaker 4 And then I got signed to like a regular contract in the NBA, and you're playing pickup with the guys, and there's no, like, you don't feel that like sense of nervousness, like, how do I fit in?

Speaker 4 You're like, not like I am one of them.

Speaker 4 It's just I'm waiting for my opportunity, which is everything in the NBA because sometimes you have to wait behind guys who make more money than you and different shit like that.

Speaker 4 But I waited for my opportunity. And luckily, you know, Quinn Snyder, who sadly isn't the Utah Jazz coach anymore, but he gave me an opportunity and I kind of just ran with it.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment where you started playing and you were like,

Speaker 1 I think I can fit in this league? Yeah. Where it kind of clicked for you and you knew that you had a future?

Speaker 4 So it was like, so I started at Utah. I got signed halfway through the year on that like new two-way contract.
So you're down in the G-League and up with the team.

Speaker 4 And then the next year they signed me to like a deal and

Speaker 4 Quinn Snyder played me, I think it was like the second game of the season against Golden State. And I get into the game and I had had a good training camp, made some threes.

Speaker 4 And my first three, like I shoot off like the top of the backboard and I was like,

Speaker 1 oh my God.

Speaker 4 Like this dude trusted me to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Sorry.
You're going to get in trouble. West Brook.
West Brook.

Speaker 1 My bad.

Speaker 4 And so I was like, damn. And I'm running down the sideline and Demarcus Cousins is like, man, hell no.
Don't ever shoot no shit like that again. I'm like, damn it.

Speaker 4 Like, this is fucking going to be brutal. This guy believed in me, put me in the game.
Now I got Demarcus Cousins talking shit to me. And luckily, the ball came to me.

Speaker 4 Like, another time I had a wide open three and I hit it. And that was kind of like the moment that I was like, the, all right, you made your first one.

Speaker 4 And then I ended up making a couple more throughout the game.

Speaker 4 We ended up losing to the Warriors, but it was like the confidence I needed and reassurance to be like, all right, you know, if I can do this against the defending champion Warriors, like I can do it against anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the fact you did it after you, you know, shot the shot from hell the first time. Yeah, an oxygen oxygen ball we like to call it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like it also is now it's become like a lot of the analysis in the NBA, people are like, oh, he got hunted on defense.

Speaker 1 Have you been, is there a moment where you were hunted? Oh, yeah. I mean, how bad does that feel? Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I mean, I don't want to bring race into it, but when you look like the slow white guy, that's kind of like the worst is when someone's like pointing at you and the other guy runs up and the guy's like, no, no, no, him.

Speaker 1 Not him.

Speaker 4 And if you're on the other end of that, oh, it's, it sucks. But I mean,

Speaker 4 people don't understand is that if you're the guy in the action that's getting, you're going at, these are NBA players.

Speaker 4 Like, they're going to, I don't care if it's the best defender, they're going to score on you. Now, if you're constantly getting scored on, then, you know, you start to become the hunted.

Speaker 4 But if you can mix in a couple stops, they usually just tend to leave you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually, JJ Reddick, friend of friend of the show, he, he had a point that I like kind of changed how I looked at it because I think there's a lot of people who are like, the NBA, they don't play defense.

Speaker 1 They don't like, you know, college, they play defense.

Speaker 1 Like, no, the NBA, just everyone's so fucking good that even if you're playing great defense, there's like you could play great defense against Seth, and he's still going to score 25-30.

Speaker 1 So is that, is that, you think that's fair that the defense, it's not the defense, it's the fact of the offense and everyone can make a shot?

Speaker 4 Yeah, believe me, I'm trying.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and don't worry, the guys on the offensive end in college, they had to go to math class and science class and the nba it's i'm in the gym four or five hours a day so those shots tend to go in you know a lot more and these are the best 450 players in the world yeah like these guys are paid a lot of money to make a lot of tough shots and we're trying believe me we're trying but these fuckers they're good so good like could you imagine guarding kevin durant no like you i deep up because i just mentally just are you just oh yeah i forgot i try to help you out break him down you think we can get him on here We've been trying.

Speaker 1 We've been trying.

Speaker 1 I feel like we've been close many times, but he's just alphaing me all the time.

Speaker 1 He just has the scene on Instagram DMs. So he sees them all and just never replies.
Dang, we got to work on that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, can you help me? I'll try.

Speaker 1 Is there a hierarchy where you can, like in the NBA, where it's like the stars only talk to the stars and the other guys only talk to the other guys?

Speaker 4 Nah, I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 4 I would think sometimes superstars

Speaker 4 get sick of hanging out with other superstars. There's too much ego in one room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who's only one ball?

Speaker 4 I was about to say the room might blow up. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. On that note, have you been invited to go out on the town with James Harden yet?

Speaker 1 How close are you with James? You've been in the champagne room?

Speaker 4 That's my guy, man. That's my guy.
He takes care of his people. Does he?

Speaker 1 Takes care of his people.

Speaker 4 James is a great dude, and I think

Speaker 4 a lot of people get caught up in the whole strip club, James, and this that and the other and I think if any other player like when you have your downtime like you like to enjoy life yeah and like he said to me I think he's 32 he said I've I've had 32 great years of life

Speaker 1 and I'm like James I definitely believe you I don't disagree with that one bit how how much though because the NBA is it maybe it's weird that it's only feels like an only NBA problem where For some reason, social media and the NBA, like it's always every little mistake, every everything is put on blast legacy talk like i actually kind of agree somewhat with kd when he's like why is every conversation about legacy or like who could beat this guy and like do you do you does anyone talk about that in the locker room or like they like this is so lame that every game is is now like you know this is mj would never do this yeah yeah no people i mean People would be so surprised.

Speaker 4 Like the conversations that we have in the locker room are probably like so much more simpler than what people freaking think.

Speaker 4 Like nobody is comparing themselves to freaking MJ or Kareem and anything like that. Sure, we'll talk about guys that have come in the past, but nobody's doing that stupid like

Speaker 1 pissing contest to see who's better.

Speaker 4 But I mean I've sat down and watched some good arguments on Instagram Live on like whose legacy is here and then you sit back and think about it. You're like, huh.

Speaker 1 It might be right. It would actually be funny if you started that next year in the locker room.

Speaker 1 You just had like a big whiteboard at your locker and and like after every good and bead game you're like legacy mark like you're paying a little bit higher or or is like equal to or greater than the key live yeah he just keeps going up and down that'd be funny just so you know joelle this is where i got you right now legacy i was gonna say you're you're you were top eight before this you're top six now all right you get me a championship you'll be top three

Speaker 1 yeah the mvp takes you to the next level of you gotta have like a pantheon you reach pantheon level three i i do think though that when you're having the legacy conversation in a way it's a compliment to the person because we don't talk about legacy conversations with nobodies, right?

Speaker 4 Right, no, 100%.

Speaker 1 So, like, it's it in a weird way, it's it's a good thing that they're talking about you in that way, but then if you pay attention to the day-to-day of it, it's just like it's it's really just because they have nothing else to talk about, yeah.

Speaker 4 No, 100%, like, it just drags on because anybody can have an opinion because nobody will ever see Joel against Akeem Elijah, or nobody will see this one's a good one, Ja Morant against Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 Oh, who do you got? Nobody, yeah, stop, John, me too. No, cut it out.
Like, think about who you are. This is you.
He's the pro.

Speaker 1 We absolutely feed into it.

Speaker 1 We accidentally get into those conversations. That's the thing is, like, as annoying as they can be, they also are kind of fun sometimes.

Speaker 1 So we'll just accidentally be like, oh, like, what if it was like, I think we had the conversation, we were joking about MJ and magic for Stephan LeBron. And we're like, this is so stupid.

Speaker 1 And then like 10 minutes later, we're actually breaking it down.

Speaker 4 Okay, I got one for you guys to break down. Okay.
It's not even in basketball, already. Yeah.
Tom Brady

Speaker 4 or Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 Like, overall, life. Life? Legendary.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Hey, Tom Brady's still got him. Well, Zach Wilson's going to go to heaven.
Yeah. Because his religion is correct.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this life, Tom Brady, the afterlife, Zach Wilson. Yeah.
And Tom Brady definitely sold a soul to the devil, too. Next 10 years, maybe Zach Wilson? Maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's got it all in front of him right now. Yeah.
And there's a lot of cougars out there.

Speaker 4 There is.

Speaker 1 All right, so let me ask this. We've had this discussion.
If that story happens in the NBA locker room, like, are people like, that's kind of cool, dude? Yeah.

Speaker 4 You'd be like, no, one of my old teammates, Jordan Clarks, would have been like.

Speaker 1 Right on, bro.

Speaker 1 Because everyone's freaking out. It's like, I'm pretty sure the locker room is going to be fine with it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Honestly, I heard it. Like, I was out in Vegas for like NBA Summer League and I heard it and I was like, yeah, yeah, like I got a 16.
Like I'm gonna stay.

Speaker 4 I didn't even think twice about hearing like the story. I was playing Blackjack.
And then like I got on the plane. I was reading it and I was like,

Speaker 4 that his girl, his ex-girlfriend, like, what an idiot.

Speaker 4 Like, keep your personal business.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't, don't, don't

Speaker 1 get on Instagram comments. Yeah, like, you just blew that whole thing up.

Speaker 4 You would have been solved. Like, nobody needs to know that.
And now everybody's back on this guy's team.

Speaker 1 You can delete Instagram comments. You could have just been like, homie hopper, delete.
And it's over.

Speaker 1 Everything's gone. That's true.
How nice is it being able to go out to Vegas and not have to play in the summer league? Oh,

Speaker 4 dude.

Speaker 1 Unreal. Because Summer League, I mean, it's got to be very nerve-wracking.

Speaker 4 It's a grind. And like, you're anxious all the time because you're like, someone of the older guys is like, hey, hey, 50 cents performing at Dre's.
Do you want to come?

Speaker 4 I'm like, but I got shoot around at 9. He's like, yeah, we'll have you in by like 3.
And then you're walking in your hotel at 7.30.

Speaker 4 My shots on the line. And you're showing up shooting shooter-on-like, no, I didn't go out last night.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. I had a teammate that

Speaker 4 just signed with the team, and we went out to celebrate, and he literally missed the shooter-on bus like three days in a row after that.

Speaker 4 And they're like, we're kind of regretting signing here right now. He's like, no, I won't do it again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, unless you sign me a new contract, then I will do it again.

Speaker 1 What's the summer league like in terms of pressure? Like, you're under a microscope, right? It's like every possession that you have, every touch that you have could determine millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 Right. I think you just have to have the mindset of giving a fuck, but not actually giving a fuck.

Speaker 4 You know, I think you just got to go out there and be you. Like, if you're out there trying to go out there and do something that you're not able to do, then you're not going to be good.

Speaker 4 Like, my job was to play a little defense and make threes, right? If I was out there trying to dribble the ball 17 times, I'd probably be in

Speaker 4 Yugoslavia right now. Right.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 So just stick to the basics, keep the main thing, the main thing. But the toughest part is the outside distractions, which people don't give enough credit for.

Speaker 4 Like most professional athletes can do a good job of handling distractions and getting their shit done. Young professional athletes, that's where it goes a little bit.

Speaker 1 I would imagine that's a little tough. In your early 20s in Vegas with a little walking around money,

Speaker 1 forget about it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, per diem is like $2,500. Yeah.
You know what I did $2,500? Probably lost it within the 30 minutes I got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 On Doc Rivers, because we've talked about Doc on this show a lot.

Speaker 1 Does he ever have a voice? Or is it just like permanently hoarse?

Speaker 1 Have you ever heard him speak with like a full,

Speaker 1 like full command of his voice?

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think sometimes

Speaker 4 it peaks through. But no, I think that's just how he speaks.
It's funny because I've never even really. Yeah, no, he can't.
I can't imagine what his voice is.

Speaker 4 Because I grew up a Boston kid, so like that's the only voice that I know. And minus him yelling at Tyrese Maxie, I think that's just how his voice is.

Speaker 1 His voice just rolls out of bed like that.

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Speaker 1 All right, I want to talk about Iowa State real quick. So, a couple questions.
First, I read that you lost 30 pounds after your freshman year.

Speaker 1 How bad were you eating?

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, that's a lot of weight.

Speaker 4 I wish I had like a picture of my cabinet. It was like devil dogs, ring dings,

Speaker 4 mac and cheese.

Speaker 4 And I was eating like chicken fingers for pregame meal.

Speaker 1 And you, and you, so you were playing at 260 and you were good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I remember we were in West Virginia and I was with one of my teammates, Dustin Hoag, and there was a scale

Speaker 4 in the locker room. And he was like, oh, he got on.
He was like, aha, 235. And I was like, oh, let me get on.
It read like 263. And he was like, oh, my God, I got to go tell everybody.

Speaker 4 everybody and i'm like no

Speaker 1 how were you like were you winded

Speaker 4 i mean here's the difference between college and the nba is like i was so skilled that i could get away with being like out of shape overweight and like still put up points because it was like i was touching the ball every time you know i was so much more skilled than everybody else But then when I tried to, you know, I lost that weight.

Speaker 4 And obviously, your body fluctuates, you know, us big guys, you know, it's, it's tough to just keep it there all the time.

Speaker 4 Then you slowly start getting to the next level you're like damn like i can't be overweight i actually have to be in shape i actually have to be conditioned well because those dudes are playing at like a whole nother speed a whole nother athletic level and uh

Speaker 4 I don't blame my mom or my dad. I blame God for not giving me those athletic talents.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But that must have felt awesome when you lost 30 pounds.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, friggin, you go from wearing baggy sweatshirts to

Speaker 4 taking your shirt off all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so was it just salads? You just stopped eating junk food?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I don't know if it was the healthiest. So any nutritionist watching this, it was probably like absolutely no carbs.
It was just like salad and chicken and peppers and onions.

Speaker 4 And yeah, it wasn't too exciting, but

Speaker 1 when you were at the heaviest, though, were you able to break a backboard?

Speaker 4 I don't even know if I was getting up there to grab the rim, to be honest.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 The devil dogs were keeping you down. That's one thing I miss about basketball.

Speaker 1 Like, when we were growing up, once every six months, somebody would shatter a backboard or just like pull it down onto the ground. And now it's like the technology is too

Speaker 1 advanced.

Speaker 4 Breakaway rims.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So here's another one. I like to look up old tweets that I have whenever I have a guest on.

Speaker 4 You got some for me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have one that just says, says January 30th, 2016.

Speaker 1 It's actually my birthday. I said, what are you doing, Niang? So stupid.
I went and looked it up. It was the Texas AM game at Texas AM.

Speaker 1 I must have bet on you guys. So you fucked me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that game? What did you do? Did you make a big mistake?

Speaker 4 No, I think I might have turned the ball over late because I know you probably took the over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that too. Yep, yep.
I was like, fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was, something about that really pissed me off. And then

Speaker 1 you did something else. I think it might have been the buddy healed, like that game where you guys both went off.
Oh, we were going back and forth? Yeah, I think I had.

Speaker 4 You said something mean to me.

Speaker 1 No, I said something good i was like i love niang so like that that was a good one all right we're good yeah that's good so we're good on that but i i do have so fred hoiberg was your coach for the first couple years yeah three years

Speaker 1 three years um and he obviously he he went to the bulls and i just remember being like dude he couldn't beat uab why is he going why why are the bulls damn so after that game where you like hey coach you shouldn't go like we couldn't even get out of the first round of the tournament we just won the big 12.

Speaker 1 we beat kansas in the big 12.

Speaker 1 which just never happens.

Speaker 1 Did you guys know that he was eyeing something? Or was it, could you feel it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, so right when we lost, like, I think he went and had like a heart procedure. So he, like, took off.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He wasn't there. And I mean, it got a little fishy.
I mean, you hear like the stories coming out.

Speaker 4 And then, obviously, there's like one airport in Ames, and they're sending out reports like, oh, a private plane is taking off out of the. Ames, Iowa municipal airport.

Speaker 4 It's like, oh, it's headed to Chicago. And you kind of had a feeling.

Speaker 4 i always have thought super highly of fred obviously i would have been like damn i wish you would have stayed right um but it also made me realize you know the nba is a different beast because if you would have asked any of us or any of us at iowa state we would have thought fred was all world he would have brought in a championship steve kerr ask you know what i mean

Speaker 4 and then you kind of get to the nba and it's like It's tougher than it is. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like dealing with a personality like Jimmy Butler and then, you know, all those other guys that were over there. I I mean, it's not easy, but I don't think I said, Fred, we couldn't be UAB.

Speaker 4 I think it was because

Speaker 4 I think I might have went like four for 19 that game, but you probably tweeted about me then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I probably did. That was a

Speaker 4 flat piece of shit. Get back on DT.

Speaker 1 Stop eating devil dogs.

Speaker 1 I know what you did last night. Did Fred Hoiberg ever show you guys like clips of Animal House or Wedding Crashers? Because he did that with the Bulls.

Speaker 1 That was the moment I think it was all falling apart when it was.

Speaker 4 Did he show like the titty part

Speaker 1 falling on the bed? I just remember there was a story where it was like the Bulls' locker room was like fracturing, and he was like, watch this clip from Animal House Guys. Like, this will fix it.

Speaker 1 Which is a very college coach thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the Iowa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because college, like, what's the difference?

Speaker 1 Like, a college coach versus an NBA coach, I would imagine a college coach is a lot more like, not forgiving, but, you know, actually, like, close with you, whereas the NBA, is it just strictly business?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, it's, you ain't hanging.

Speaker 4 I mean, unless you're really close with someone, you ain't really hanging out with them you know like you do we show up do our job leave college it was like we're gonna grind at 6 a.m do all these suicides and pointless lifts and go home and drink a cup of beers and eat together and hang out with chicks how does that work with with the workout schedule i would imagine that with what in the nba yeah yeah in the nba and in college because if you you know if you do like bench press or you do something that like works out your shoulders or triceps you can't shoot around after that right do you have to give yourself like a day after a heavy lift no that's that's what college kids say.

Speaker 4 I don't know if this is like news, but like we lift before

Speaker 4 games. Like, sometimes guys will lift before games.

Speaker 1 See, that seems, it seems like it would mess up your whole coordination.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think once you just get into like a rhythm, I know what you're saying, where you're like, oh, I do like so much on the bench pressing.

Speaker 1 I probably bench a lot more than you, so like when I do that, then I step on the court and my shots all off. That's probably what my issue is.

Speaker 4 Do you really believe that?

Speaker 1 How much you bench?

Speaker 4 135, like 10 times?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I think that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 We've all had that feeling, right? Like if you work out, your shoulders are fatigued.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 There is a bench right there. Yeah, there is.
Really? I was just warming up on this earlier today.

Speaker 4 Really? Is that 225 right there?

Speaker 1 That's 185.

Speaker 4 How much can you pinch off there? 10?

Speaker 1 12? You might have me.

Speaker 4 But no, back to your question. Yeah, friggin'.

Speaker 4 I think that was like a huge thing for me in like high school and college. I'd be like, I'm not going to lift two days

Speaker 4 before like a game or anything like that and then when you're young and coming up and the strength coach is like shut up

Speaker 4 you're lifting right now and then they put you in a game and you make a shot you're like oh maybe it's not so bad it's probably just an excuse that that we have but we don't lift like as like we don't lift heavy it's more like getting your muscles moving like I wouldn't say like football is like fucking scream yell yeah AC D C on and you're just fucking crushing it.

Speaker 4 Basketball is more like

Speaker 4 20 pound dumbbells.

Speaker 1 Jazzer sizing.

Speaker 1 Functional, that's a good idea. Yeah, functional flexibility, right? Yeah, your toning.

Speaker 1 I have one complaint about you. Well, maybe it's not a complaint.
Maybe you would have been drafted higher if you had a different nickname, though.

Speaker 4 Oh, you don't like the minivan? The minivan. That wasn't my nickname until I was already in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Okay, so how did you get the nickname the minivan?

Speaker 4 It's a great nickname.

Speaker 4 I got in against the Brooklyn Nets and I wasn't really playing much, so I got in and there was like an opportunity for, like, I had a wide open lane, and I'm like a one-footed jumper I don't jump off two and dunk it so I tried to go off two and dunk it and like my hands like barely got over the rim and laid it in and Joe Angles the biggest shit talker in the NBA is I love that was one of my teammates and we got in the locker room he was like what the f was that and I was like what you didn't like he was like no that was absolutely disgusting like that was terrible and I was like all right all right I was like I'm not you guys like fucking Ferrari engines running around I'm more like a minivan I need a couple laps around the block before I get to top speed and then our side thunderborn was like oh the minivan and then next thing you know people in UJAT didn't even know my name it was like minivan's a perfect nickname for jazz fans yeah exactly right it's really not so much they're like fuck you and your minivan makes it fucking minivan yeah exactly i never want to ride in your minivan

Speaker 1 who's the uh Who's the craziest player that you've maybe not even played against, but like seen?

Speaker 1 You know, maybe you weren't playing like, guarding him, but like the one guy when you've watched him live, and you're like, this is just different than everything else.

Speaker 4 I mean, there's a couple, right? I would say Brad Beals up there.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Okay.
How so?

Speaker 4 Well, so when we were at the jazz, they were like, Brad Beale, you know, you go over the scouting point, they're like, Brad Beale's on minute restriction, you know, so he's probably not going to play too much.

Speaker 4 We're going to force him right.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 we, because I guess going left, he's better going left. And he was on minute restriction, and he had like 30 points in 25 minutes, and he was going whichever way he went.

Speaker 4 We were forcing him right, he was going right scoring. We were forcing him left, he was going left.
And then, you know, you have like the KDs, the LeBrons.

Speaker 1 What's a guy that maybe we don't think of? That's like, you know, when you see him play, you're like, damn,

Speaker 1 his game is sick.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, I got to play alongside Jordan Clarkson, so that was one where,

Speaker 4 but that's a pretty good question.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Great question.

Speaker 4 Thank you. You know, I might say Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 4 He's impressed me with his just overall athleticism and then just

Speaker 4 the way he carries himself, like the shit he says.

Speaker 4 I think he's...

Speaker 4 He's a great shit talker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got a dog on Twitter that talks shit for him during the games.

Speaker 4 Did you see the movie Hustle?

Speaker 1 I haven't yet.

Speaker 4 I got to. He was pretty good at that one.
But yeah, no, I'll give Anthony credit.

Speaker 1 Can you tell right away if you're watching someone play basketball, like, all right, that guy can, like, like within like the first minute, like, okay, that guy is, he's different than everyone else.

Speaker 1 He's, you know, a real like baller.

Speaker 4 Just like his fluid motion and how they move, yeah, I think you could, you could definitely, yeah, you have an eye for talent. You know how.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can tell easily. Yeah.
I think you're okay.

Speaker 4 You could maybe make a team. Yeah, there's some things I need to improve on.

Speaker 1 Actually, speaking of which,

Speaker 1 if you go on Google, let me pull it up.

Speaker 1 By the way, that Oklahoma versus Iowa State game, I was happy because one of your teammates hit a three, a buzzer beater three when it was, when you guys were down eight and they covered the spread.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes. That's right.
Yeah. And I don't know if you guys are ever aware of that stuff, but it matters.

Speaker 1 It matters. I had money on it.

Speaker 4 That's why I was.

Speaker 1 Clifton does that out there.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter, right, with NIL. Guys are getting like freaking

Speaker 1 pissed for you that you would have been an NIL beast

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 you were one of those guys who,

Speaker 1 you know, by the time your fourth year rolled around, it was just like, this fucking guy's still here?

Speaker 4 Yeah, because you know, like, every older white male that had, was, had, like, a bad body and played basketball, like, they saw a little bit of themselves in me.

Speaker 1 They would have paid me. But yeah, no, you, yeah, you stay, like, you were, you were part of that team.

Speaker 1 Like, there's always those guys in college basketball who are good, but because they were good right when they started, like, freshman year, you feel like they've been there for like eight years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah it was like me and period yeah right exactly so you would have you would have cleaned up on i would have i would have it would have been damn whatever yeah my mom had me a little too early yeah all right so that what i was gonna say was uh if you search on google people also ask there's just a question is george niang good that's literally the question and it's just yes niang is a below average defender as he currently ranks 203rd out of a possible 251 players according to 538 but his overall total Raptor, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 That sounds sick. Is tied with Bam Adabayo for 53rd league-wide in a very healthy plus 2.9 with a war rating of 9 that ranks third on the team behind Andre Drummond and Joel Mbi.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Dude, you got a sick Raptor.
You have an awesome Raptor.

Speaker 1 You should be the Raptor 60.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Minivan Raptor.

Speaker 1 That kind of hurts, though. Yes, Niang is a below-average defender.

Speaker 1 Who wrote that? You don't pay me to play defense. Google wrote it.
That's 538. That's Nate's.
Google wrote it, but it's from 538. That's Nate's.
That's a nerd. He's never seen a basketball.

Speaker 1 Did you know that your raptor was so good?

Speaker 4 No, I don't even know what a raptor is.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. Right behind me.

Speaker 4 But if I'm bam out of bio, I know he makes a lot of money, so you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get the total raptor. Listen, your agent should be going in, just page one of the

Speaker 1 pitches. Look at his raptor.
Oh, my God. That's awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you like playing in Philly?

Speaker 4 I love it, actually.

Speaker 1 Like, the fans? Because some people don't like the Philly fans. We love the Philly fans because they're like you were talking about them earlier, Billy.
I'll get your fucking minivan out of here.

Speaker 1 They're mean, but they're funny and they care.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, that's the best part. Like, why would you want to play for a city that is just like, uh, about what you do? Like, they actually really, like, give a shit.

Speaker 4 And I can, I feel like I'm able to look myself in the mirror and be like, you know what? I did suck. You know what I mean? So I do need to be better.
So all that shit really doesn't bother me.

Speaker 4 And I think it's hilarious when they they get going on like, on like Twitter or in the stands.

Speaker 4 It's pure comedy every night, but like you said, I can appreciate it because they do care.

Speaker 4 Because it is like that electrician that makes $95K a year that's bringing his son for the one-two games he's there. He wants to see you perform.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 He doesn't want to see you play like shit.

Speaker 4 Or not play, Ben Simmons? Yeah, I guess that. Great, valid point.

Speaker 4 It's been almost a year and a half since he's touched the quarter, hasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Until he plays somewhere else, he's going to be a sixer.
Like, I still think of him as being a sixer. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They gave away the number 25 to the guy we just signed. Who? I think Daniel House.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 it's a new era. Yeah, hey, yeah.
New era of 25.

Speaker 1 Update those update those jerseys. I also appreciate that you are a very honest

Speaker 1 NBA player, and you have a little self-deprecation. I read the quote where you said, the biggest thing for me was being able to use my deceptively slow speed speed to my advantage.

Speaker 1 So you think it is an advantage to be slower than everyone? Absolutely. How so?

Speaker 4 Because everybody's used to these dudes being so fast and when you change it up and someone goes slow, like it's tough to go from fast to slow.

Speaker 1 You're the human officer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was going to say, these guys are so used to going from stopping to completely full speed, but if I hit you with a six mile an hour, you're not ready for it.

Speaker 4 It's like Tim Wakefield and the knuckleball. They're used to 95, 95, 95.
And then he comes in the next day and is throwing 63 and 61 and like moving all over the place. My body's sliding here.

Speaker 1 You really are the minivan. Your 10 miles per hour must look like 20 miles per hour.
Like when you turn it up a little bit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was going to say it feels like it on my knees.

Speaker 1 That's for sure.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. That's.

Speaker 1 I like the fact that like slowness can't slower than you look. Slowness kills.
Yeah. Slowness kills.

Speaker 4 We might need to get that on a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 Yes. That's not bad.
Have you,

Speaker 1 I know this is a lame question, but I ask every basketball player this. Have you ever been in the zone?

Speaker 1 What's that? Like the shooting zone. Like where everything you shoot

Speaker 1 you hit.

Speaker 4 Yeah. One time.

Speaker 4 This one time? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm obsessed with the idea that a basketball player could just be on the court and everything they shoot just goes.

Speaker 4 Well, we were playing Charlotte. I think it was at home.
And when I was in Utah, and I went like seven for seven from three in like 16 minutes.

Speaker 4 And literally it was like the first time I got in the game the ball came to me like two three times and I shot it and they went in they felt good and then the third one it was like someone threw it off to me and I just threw it up there and I'm like oh fuck and it like went in and then the next one I was you know went in again and the second half I ended up having three more threes but it was like I was so locked locked into what I was doing it it didn't matter the only problem is is I didn't touch the ball enough for me to get 30 you know what I mean because if I touch I was in that type of zone.

Speaker 1 You're on pace for 30. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just, yeah, I'm obsessed with the idea that, like, how cool of a feeling that would be to just be like, everything I shoot's going in, no matter what.

Speaker 4 Well, that was the one time I was in the zone in an NBA game. Like, when I go to the YMCA, I'm always in the zone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you guys can, you guys just make every shot. Yeah, exactly.
If I were you, I would show up to the YMCA all the time. All the time.

Speaker 1 And I'd be like, oh, I'd like to have a stupid mustache on, like, the worst disguise of all time.

Speaker 1 And then just get out there and just put 50 on him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I should dress up as like a female and do it.

Speaker 1 Really throw all that. You should start just fucking dunking on people.

Speaker 4 Well, no, you can't dunk.

Speaker 1 So I guess that part will man.

Speaker 1 Sometimes. But it is crazy.
Whenever I see an NBA player in an open gym and they just make like 25 in a row, you're like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 You're like, he's going to average 30 this year. And they're like, oh, he averages seven.

Speaker 1 Do you like selectively pick and choose what clips you're going to put on your Instagram? Like Rise and Grind, Here's Me at Lifetime Fitness.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then like the good angle, too.
And then like sometimes I ask a couple girls I know like what filter they use to make like their hips looking.

Speaker 1 It's a very important part of the NBA offseason.

Speaker 4 No, for real, it is, though. It is.

Speaker 1 It's possible.

Speaker 4 I told you, perception is everything. Like people don't understand that.
Like

Speaker 4 you friggin' look the part. Someone, you know what I mean? And people don't think Instagram does anything, but if you look the part, people think like you're it.

Speaker 4 You'll probably get paid a little more than someone who's

Speaker 4 not looking the part.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so in the offseason, do you have like tweet alerts on for Woge and Shams and all those guys? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 So I just actually got one, and it's crazy that you're here because the Sixers are very close to signing Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 4 That'd be impossible because he's already under contract.

Speaker 1 Trading for him.

Speaker 4 Oh, am I going back to Utah?

Speaker 1 No, no, they haven't said

Speaker 1 who's going to be dangled out. You're going to cut.
But the fact that Hardin didn't take the max.

Speaker 4 Can I get that spot in the middle right there with the bench press?

Speaker 1 The fact Harden didn't take the max means you guys can get under the max guy. And so it looks like...
Looks like Mitchell might be.

Speaker 4 All right, Adrian Warjanowski, pipe down over there.

Speaker 1 I'm just making all this up right now.

Speaker 1 This is all completely false. That would be, yeah, because I mean, that does have to, when you see everyone moving around.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. That's like the, especially like draft night, you're calling your agent, like, hey, do you think I'll be good?

Speaker 4 And they hit you with a line, like, I think you'll be good, but you know how this business works.

Speaker 1 It's just like, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 You're fucked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you ever been in a Woj bomb?

Speaker 4 Honestly, when I got cut from the Pacers, Woge said, you know, like, George has been waived from, George Niang has been waived from the Pacers and spelled my name wrong.

Speaker 4 Oh, I was like, damn, I really am a boss guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. That's bulletin board material, though.
Yeah, that is. Like, he knows that there's an S on there now.
Yeah, and he does.

Speaker 4 And I told him that it pissed me off.

Speaker 1 So you also were in Utah when Rudy Gobert gave everyone COVID. Was that awkward?

Speaker 4 That was.

Speaker 1 That was.

Speaker 1 Actually, at the time, because we all didn't know what was coming, I think we defended the move. We're like, that's fucking funny that he touched all the microphones.
Honestly,

Speaker 4 now that I think about it, it was a boss move.

Speaker 1 But to say it back then was like, yo, it was bad.

Speaker 4 You were like, bro, you did that and you had

Speaker 1 fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 That was the day that sports just stopped. Yeah.
Dude. The world shut down.

Speaker 4 Like, who would have ever thought that? Like, I remember telling someone, I was like, there'll never be a day when sports stops. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like, and then next thing you know, it's like, I have a buddy that gambles that, you know, hangs out with me and he was like betting on like Ukrainian soccer.

Speaker 4 It was like that's the only sports i wanted literally was like yeah shut down but back to the rudy gobert thing that was uh

Speaker 4 that was funny because uh i ended up going to have dinner at his house the night after we or the night of we played toronto at home and i was eating dinner with him after the game and we were talking about him coming in before we flew out to oklahoma city and he friggin he comes in late and was like yeah i wasn't really feeling that well that's why i came in late mind you literally two days before we had someone from the cdc come and be like if you're not feeling well don't come in yeah like call someone and uh so he comes in and he's on the plane and he's like sweating oh no and uh and i think like all of us thought like you could have a common cold yeah no one knew yeah yeah and then so we get down to okc and someone was like yeah we're gonna go up there and and see what rudy has he's he's been under the weather and they test him and uh the next day he doesn't show up for shootaround and jordan Clarkson's running around shoot around and be like, Rudy got that shit, yo.

Speaker 1 He got that shit. I know he got that shit.

Speaker 4 So then we're getting ready to go to the game, and he's not there. And Lydia was like, men in black.
We're getting ready for tip-off.

Speaker 4 They do the starting lineups, and like five guys in suits run on the court. And it's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 That was crazy.

Speaker 4 They told us, and I was like, what the hell, like, just happened? And then I figured, like, we were going to get back in two weeks. Like, everybody's like, all right, two-week hiatus, we'll be back.

Speaker 4 What was it, like, three months later?

Speaker 1 The whole bubble?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Let me tell you, the bubble.

Speaker 1 Would it suck? Oh.

Speaker 4 I mean, they did a great job, but. It sucks.
That was a long time to.

Speaker 1 I always thought it would be fun, but

Speaker 1 you were just stuck in a hotel room, so I guess that wouldn't be fun.

Speaker 4 I mean, after the, you did the same five activities, the pool, the dining hall, golf.

Speaker 1 So that means...

Speaker 1 Correct me if I'm wrong, like the first three days was like, this is awesome. Yeah.
And then after like a week, you're like, wait, this sucks?

Speaker 4 No, I mean, after a while, after, but I would probably say after like two, three weeks, it was

Speaker 4 a grinder. I was like, I'm good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it's a Mickey Mouse bubble anyway. Anyone who won in that bubble doesn't count.

Speaker 4 If I went to ring, would you say that to my face?

Speaker 1 You were on LeBron James team, yes. If you want to ring on the jazz that year, no, we would not say that.
That would be that was the hardest one. That was the toughest one ever.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 What you guys did was incredible.

Speaker 4 You guys are better than Stockton and Malone. Ripped down their sticks.

Speaker 1 The nation needed that. We needed that.
We needed a bubble tournament. Thank you for your service.

Speaker 1 Thank thank you thank you for your service you've done an enormous service to this country we're here for you guys but how many shots were guys making back then huh it was awesome when what like the first couple days when he's like wait this is like the greatest shooting gym ever that was so sick oh my god yeah i couldn't miss yeah i wish i was in a contract yeah

Speaker 1 just in the bubble yeah yeah when you look back at what rudy did though he he might have saved thousands of lives by getting by being like the first person to have coronavirus publicly yeah and to like look like he was spreading it around.

Speaker 1 They shut down the league, they shut down, you know, all fans coming into games, probably save maybe even more, maybe tens of thousands of lives.

Speaker 1 I don't know, you can spin zone it that way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm gonna be spinning if you spin it like that. You know, for my guy, Rudy, I'll say thank you, Rudy, for saving

Speaker 4 tens of thousands of lives.

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Speaker 1 So you are, you, you, you follow Barstool. You know some of the guys here.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Are you Team Hank or Team Mush?

Speaker 1 No, that wasn't a real question. I was

Speaker 1 because I know he friends already. I'm not going to do that to you.

Speaker 1 I don't even really know what happened there. I'm not going to do that to you.

Speaker 1 It's all in the past. My real question was.

Speaker 1 Do you like that, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 By the way, kind of a pussy move from Hank. He talks a lot of shit about Philly, and he's just not here right now.
Really? Oh, my God. I got to be Team Mush.

Speaker 4 Then I got to be Team Mush.

Speaker 1 He's number one team.

Speaker 4 No, I got you, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm on your podcast next. Eight black, right?

Speaker 4 Eight black on his gambling.

Speaker 1 So, no, you, you, when you got drafted by the Pacers, you got drafted by Larry Bird, and he gave you a compliment. Was that the coolest moment of your life?

Speaker 4 As a Boston kid?

Speaker 1 Like, you, you, you like Larry Bird, yeah, to say he's good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I was, that was the greatest thing that could probably ever happen to me up to date then.

Speaker 1 Um, and then he cut you, yeah, but life goes on, right?

Speaker 4 I don't why you always got to look at the negative shit,

Speaker 1 huh?

Speaker 4 No, but it was, it was, that was awesome. That was great.
And, um, you know, the year that I had there, I actually learned a lot from him. And he's a no-bullshit type of guy.

Speaker 4 If he doesn't have anything to say to you, he will walk straight past you. Yeah.
You know what I mean? But when he does have something to say, I think it's, it's meaningful and it's helpful.

Speaker 4 And he was great to me and always has been. And I'm always be thankful for my time in Indiana and that he drafted me because he didn't have to do that, that's for sure.
Yeah. So I appreciate him.

Speaker 4 That's awesome.

Speaker 1 So what's next for this year? What are your goals for this year?

Speaker 4 Win a championship.

Speaker 1 Neklenny Balls.

Speaker 4 Met him enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 In the same t-shirt every single day.

Speaker 1 At least he's wearing a shirt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, facts.

Speaker 4 No, I think for me, it was just to continue to grow and take my game to a whole new level. Obviously, right now in Philadelphia, you know, we're trying to win a championship now.

Speaker 4 So obviously making sure that I do my part to make sure that all of my eggs are in a row to make sure that we can win a championship and be, you know, effective for this team.

Speaker 4 And, you know, like I said, just have another great year. I think this year in Philly was huge for me, and I took a big leap in my career.

Speaker 4 So, to have that, you know, moving forward would be huge for me.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Yeah, we're fans now.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Yeah, hell yeah.
Niangang, yes. Yes, Niang Gang.
Minivan. That's dude.
Niang Gang. Niang Gang's good.

Speaker 4 Can I get you a t-shirt with that on the front and minivan on the back? Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll put Nyangang on a minivan. That's what we got to do.

Speaker 4 You guys are up to some sick shit.

Speaker 1 We also excel that. I did a complete 180 on the minivan nickname.
After you explained it,

Speaker 1 it's probably the best nickname in the NBA.

Speaker 4 It's here to stay.

Speaker 1 And the fact that you admittedly are deceptively slow, like that's a minivan. But again, get your place.

Speaker 4 And know thyself. That's the biggest kid.

Speaker 1 Minivans are great. Like, they've got DVD players and shit in them.
You've got probably not even DVDs anymore. It's probably next level.
But it's comfort for the whole family.

Speaker 4 They get the job done. They'll get you there at 65 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. All right.
Well, thanks so much, Charge.

Speaker 4 Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Firefest.
Thank you to Sling.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest actually Synergy. I have a Sling part of my Fire Fest.

Speaker 6 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm going to take you guys on a journey. This is an actual Firefest.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Buckle up. All right, everyone, just do it.
You secure everything around you.

Speaker 1 Nail down the dock.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 6 I don't know why Bill's giving me this look.

Speaker 1 He's getting on the edge of his seat. Let's do it.
Let's ride, Hank.

Speaker 6 Moved in Monday. Moving sucks.
Everyone knows that. Never fun.
Took all day. Got everything in the apartment.
Hadn't unboxed anything.

Speaker 6 Just went to sleep after it all got in.

Speaker 6 Tuesday comes, we were here super late because of the all-star game. So

Speaker 6 we got home at like midnight, maybe one o'clock.

Speaker 1 No big deal. We grind.

Speaker 6 Yeah, didn't move anything. But obviously, I was here for 14 hours.
I wasn't about to go home and unbox and put stuff away.

Speaker 6 Tuesday night, Wednesday.

Speaker 6 And also, with that being said, I also don't know where anything is. Like, I'm like, I'm waking up in the morning.
Like, I'm just trying to do my thing. Called, turn the heat on.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 6 Turn the hot water on.

Speaker 6 It didn't get turned on, so I didn't shower for two days.

Speaker 1 And it was hot. Yeah.
Did we know that?

Speaker 1 I knew. I could tell.

Speaker 6 Yeah. No, you don't.

Speaker 1 I don't smell.

Speaker 6 So, and then trying to find stuff. That's why I'm wearing flip-flops in New York City because I just like can't find it.
I don't know where my socks are.

Speaker 6 I don't feel like going through the process of figuring where they are.

Speaker 6 So I just throw on my flip-flops, but then I'm like getting looks at why you're wearing flip-flops in New York City, which is a valid criticism. But I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Because you're corporate and you're wearing flip-flops.

Speaker 6 Right. It's summer, whatever.

Speaker 1 That's such a corporate move to have the boss be like. No one's even knowing.
You guys have to look at my feet up there.

Speaker 6 No, the corporate people are fucking.

Speaker 1 What's the Panthers? I don't remember. If I was really corporate,

Speaker 1 if I was really corporate, I would

Speaker 1 do the old one. Jerry Richardson.
Vacation for this whole year. Yeah.
Hank Smith's going to be a little bit more like that. Everyone go fucking flip-flops Tuesday so we can look at chicks' feet.

Speaker 1 Let me see them toes.

Speaker 6 Not a feet guy. Anyway, Wednesday, I'm like, all right, finally,

Speaker 1 finally.

Speaker 1 It is a power thing.

Speaker 6 We'll be done with work around five. I can go home, move on my shit in, get ready to go.
I take the train home, get off the path.

Speaker 6 And like sometimes I fell asleep for literally, like we got stuck in the tunnel. I dozed off for maybe...
three minutes, but we finally get there.

Speaker 6 I kind of wake up, oh, get up, get off the train, check my pockets, realize I don't know where my keys are. I sprint back downstairs.
As I'm sprinting back downstairs, the train's pulling away.

Speaker 6 So they might have fallen out of my pocket on the train, but I don't know that. So I go back to the office, get back on the train.

Speaker 1 Did you take a nap on the way back? Nope.

Speaker 6 At this point, I'm wide awake, like panicked, like, oh my God,

Speaker 6 this is going to suck because it was my keys and my spare keys both on the same set. I just hadn't even taken them off yet.
Get back to the office. Retrace all my steps.
Nowhere to be found.

Speaker 6 Multiple conference rooms, multiple meetings. You guys know what I have to do on a day-to-day basis.

Speaker 6 I'm just everywhere all at once. I'm checking everywhere.
I'm checking the studio, checking by your desk, checking the pile, checking all the conference rooms.

Speaker 6 We were in the place next door doing a commercial shoot. I had to get the keys for that.
I check in there, not in there. Come back, realize I was sitting at the rundown chair.

Speaker 6 So I go over there.

Speaker 6 The rundown chairs have gotten moved into shoegasm. So I had to go back into shoegasm.
I'm fucking, and I'm sweating my balls off at this point.

Speaker 1 But you got flip-flops on.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I do have flip-flops on. No, I was wearing actual shoes yesterday.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 6 I'm like rustling around in the chair.

Speaker 1 I can hear keys, but where do the flip-flops come back into the story? I just, don't worry about it. Well, I thought he was sweating.
I was like, well, you couldn't have been sweating that bad.

Speaker 1 You had flip-flops on. No, I was sweating my flip-flops.
The flip-flops was just

Speaker 1 a little bit of flavor for the story.

Speaker 6 Well, it was just like, yeah, I just didn't, I don't know where, like, he's wearing them right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you use the bottle opener on the bottom after walking around Manhattan? Duh

Speaker 6 I'm rustling around in this in this fucking recliner. I can hear keys.
I can hear keys. I'm like they're in there, but they're like the chairs broken.

Speaker 6 They swallow underneath and I'm like it's it's it's literally just a struggle.

Speaker 1 What time is this?

Speaker 6 This is like seven o'clock at this point 730.

Speaker 6 Finally, I finally reach get the keys. They're a set of keys.
They're not my keys.

Speaker 6 And I literally like it was in shoe gas and I was just like, fuck, and just like threw the keys at the wall. Whose keys are you? I don't know.
I picked them up. I brought them at game security.

Speaker 6 But clearly, no one is worried about them. They're just a set of two keys.

Speaker 6 Then I had to

Speaker 6 call my landlord, which is awkward being like, hey, I just moved in. I fucking lost my keys.

Speaker 1 I'm an absolute joke.

Speaker 6 He

Speaker 6 sets me up with a realtor who has an extra set of keys. I go to meet him, get the keys.
They're only the keys for my door, but not my front door.

Speaker 6 So I then had to go sit outside my apartment building waiting for someone to come, thinking it was going to not take long.

Speaker 1 It took an hour and a half. What?

Speaker 6 I was sitting there just watching PFT's ghost of Manhattan stream because I told him, I was like, I might stream out to you. I wasn't even in my apartment by the time he was finished.

Speaker 6 So I left the office at 4:30. I got in my apartment at 9.30.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That sucks.

Speaker 1 That's a bad night. Did you have to pay for the spare keys? I have to go meet my other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 6 Probably going to get evicted.

Speaker 6 I have to go meet my landlord to get the front door keys and I have to clone those. And then hopefully never lose them.

Speaker 1 Clone them.

Speaker 1 So this is your introduction to your landlord.

Speaker 1 What else do you call it? Copy? Yeah, you'd make a copy of your key.

Speaker 6 Are those words not synonyms?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you clone them.

Speaker 1 That's not. I like it.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 6 synonym.

Speaker 1 No one's ever thought that you were like a college-educated guy. Yeah, world-renowned educated human being.

Speaker 1 Clone works. It's just, I've never heard anyone say, I got to go clone my keys.
No, I literally do what I have to do. It's just fun.
funny.

Speaker 1 I have one and I have to make the exact same correct and have two. Yeah.
Clone. You got to use the DNA from the first

Speaker 1 and replicate it.

Speaker 1 Is that why you called me twice?

Speaker 6 I was calling you because I called, because I was at the office fucking like rustling through the

Speaker 6 guy was like, all right, the guy has your key, but he wants to meet in 10 minutes. And I was like, I'm fucking 30 minutes away.
So I was going to call Billy to go meet him, but he didn't answer.

Speaker 1 That is a day that will like beat you up for a while.

Speaker 6 But I will will say this. I finally get in my apartment.
I'm like, I swear to fucking God, if this hot water's not working still, I'm going to cry. It worked, and I was able to get a nice hot shower.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 1 that did turn my mood around.

Speaker 6 And then I just played Call of Duty. I didn't move a single thing in.
So I still haven't moved anything in

Speaker 1 four days. Question: Did you have any other keys on that keychain? No.
Ooh, that would have been bad if it was your car key.

Speaker 6 No, I hadn't. I hadn't even

Speaker 1 gotten to that point yet. Okay, that's nice.
Little shout out to bird dogs, zipper pockets. Yeah.
On the shorts and the pants. I always like to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, now I'm just going to start putting them in my

Speaker 1 first thing in the morning. That's where they go.
Don't take them out till the end of the day.

Speaker 6 I was debating as I was sitting outside. I was like, I did meet a woman that lives in my building the other day.
Shot.

Speaker 6 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Oh, sounds like she was.

Speaker 6 No, it's not, you know, let's not do that, big cat.

Speaker 1 Well, you definitely wouldn't have brought her up.

Speaker 6 No, no, I would bring her up.

Speaker 1 Just give us a couple of times.

Speaker 6 If it was a man, I would have brought him up because I just met her as I was walking in there. I was like, hey, nice to meet you, blah, blah, blah.
She told me what apartment.

Speaker 6 She asked me what apartment I was in. I asked her what apartment she was in.
And in my head, I was like, should I just buzz her apartment and be like, can you let me in the front door?

Speaker 6 But that's too much of a problem.

Speaker 1 I'm the guy who hit on you yesterday. No, not that.

Speaker 6 No, yeah, I didn't want to be like a weirdo. Be like, hey, let me in.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 6 So I just waited.

Speaker 1 That's brutal, dude. Yeah, that's tough.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Finally, someone ordered delivery.

Speaker 1 That's, you know, what's really terrible is when you're in the middle of the day.

Speaker 6 It got to the point where I was guessing there was a pin for a delivery pin, and I just started guessing numbers.

Speaker 1 I was like, maybe I was just like, oh, my God. Damn, Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to compete with that. No, that's brutal.
My Mount Rushmore is, I got home from work a couple nights ago and my key didn't work. Wait, your Mount Rushmore? Or sorry, my Firefest.

Speaker 1 I got home from work a couple nights ago and my key didn't work. I brought the wrong set of keys home.
But fortunately,

Speaker 1 the door was unlocked anyway, so I just went in. I don't know.

Speaker 6 I lost my keys. I threw them away.

Speaker 1 They're in the studio. I guess I picked up the wrong set.
My Mount Rushmore is, I thought I lost my keys, but they were actually just in my bird dog pants. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 You must have been stressed out. I was for a minute, and I was like, nope, they're right here.
Boom. No, my Mount Rushmore, thank you.
Shout out, Sling. What? My Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 1 God damn it. He got me.

Speaker 1 My Firefest, shout out Sling.

Speaker 1 I tweeted this, but

Speaker 1 I just basically have to go through the worst television shows with my son because he just hops around. I'm now stuck on this show called Super Wings.

Speaker 1 I want to just start a support group for anyone out there. Sling does have it for free, which is great if you have a Sling subscription.
It's a show about planes, talking planes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they have the

Speaker 1 PFT's interested. The tagline is

Speaker 1 always on time every time.

Speaker 1 And now my son repeats that and I'm like, no, this is not how airlines work. Like, they're never on time.
Who finances this? Yeah, it's fucked up because he's just walking around.

Speaker 1 It is, I will say, the one Saving Graces, it's very funny because like the names are regular names. There's like an airplane named Paul.
There's one named Donnie.

Speaker 1 And it's just funny to hear my son son be like yeah that's donnie um but

Speaker 1 someone in in the faa or something is funding this and i i'm on to them because they're basically getting three-year-olds to be like yeah planes are always on time this sounds like mere peep propaganda it's department of transportation trying to get at you and he says that like he like he yells out the catchphrase as the show starts and i'm like what the fuck are we watching always on time and i hate airlines and they're just yeah they got me you gotta go you gotta start teaching them say that's cat when they say always on time yeah he i should just give him a twitter well no darren revell has his twitter account so never mind i was gonna say he could just start tweeting at planes but yeah he's locked that up i was with hank my real my real firefest mount rushmore my real mount rush more of fire fest for this week uh i was walking to starbucks the other morning and um mystery water got me ah you know that starbucks dude yeah yeah no no it's it's it's actually like it's a mystery water factory it's hell getting inside there correct you walk through the door and it got me i was wearing my sunglasses.

Speaker 1 It dropped right between my eyes. Yep.
In between my sunglasses, my face hit the bridge of my nose and then just splattered everywhere like a killroom in Dexter.

Speaker 1 My face was just fucked up with high-velocity mystery water spatter. That is, I need, you need an umbrella to go in and out of that Starbucks.
It's the worst. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 Mystery water city in New York is awful. I got smoked by it by the other the other day.
So now I have monkeypox. Yeah.
There is a huge puddle, though, right there. Yeah, the mystery water.

Speaker 1 I know, so that you can kind of. Well, it's probably an air conditioning

Speaker 1 unit above it, but still, it's gross

Speaker 1 to just get jizzed on. Nothing worse than catching that mystery water.

Speaker 6 Greatest city in the world.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 So, this fire fest is from over suspension. I had a black eye for about

Speaker 1 eye. Black eye.
Oh, win sky.

Speaker 1 No, black eye. Like my eye.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 For about three weeks. And just everyone.
You talked to a black guy? Everyone just assumes the worst when you have a black eye. A guy playing basketball.

Speaker 1 I definitely assumed the worst. Yeah, well, it's fair.

Speaker 6 Wait, can we talk about your shaved eyebrow now?

Speaker 1 That shit was. Oh, yeah, that was fucked up.
Yeah. I had a shit, so I had to get a tattoo and I shaved my eyebrow, and I still didn't win the game show.

Speaker 1 But shout out you, the hardest I've ever laughed is when you called me after and you're like, you have to pay for the tattoo removal. And I just laughed so hard on it.

Speaker 6 And also when you joined a Zoom call one time with PMT and forgot to fill in your eyebrow.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude, I had to fill in my eyebrow like every day. But you forgot.

Speaker 1 And we were zooming in late and I just showered because I got home and it was a post-game or something. And then I was like, I totally forgot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you had a black eye and an ankle brace on for a little bit there. Yeah, I twisted my ankle.
It was, it's,

Speaker 1 you're going to learn. No, well, you're going to learn this, Billy.
Like,

Speaker 1 it's, I, playing basketball is fun.

Speaker 1 I, I miss playing pickup like all the time but you definitely get I guess barstool is not like this case because it's barstool but I remember the first time I like twisted my ankle as an adult playing softball and had to wear an ankle brace and I was like Do I have to stop playing this?

Speaker 1 Because you can't just show up to an office job with injuries.

Speaker 1 It's a weird thing to do. Not here.
Again, not here. I just saw your black guy and I was like, oh, Billy, like, he probably ran into a black guy and they made out.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know, like, what happened.

Speaker 1 but yeah, like, when you have an injury in an office setting, it's very awkward. I used to have injuries constantly when I was in Austin because I was still playing rugby at the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so I would come in with like my arm in a sling one week. And as a salesperson, it's like the worst possible thing because some they look at you and they're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 I don't trust this guy with my money. Right.
Whatsoever. Everyone looks at you like, what is this guy getting into? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or it could be that you're Edward Norton from Fight Club, who's also the same person as Brad Pitt. That's badass.
And you just get fucked up because you're in a fight club every day. Right.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Billy, you kind of looked cool.

Speaker 1 When you had the ankle brace as well. The ankle brace was embarrassing.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You look like... Because you can't get a re because there's no like athletic trainer to go to anymore, so you can't get a boot.
You just have to do what you can at CVS.

Speaker 1 We should get a training room here, though. Yeah.
Fun fact with ankle braces, you should really only wear it for like a day. Yeah.
Because then it then it weakens your ankle. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Not the hard way. It turns out ice is bad.
I'm actually going to write a blog on that. There's tons.
Ice and cold is terrible for healing.

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 1 it shuts down your inflammatory response, which actually is healing it No, but it helps with the pain and swelling, but compression is better than ice Yeah, but ice isn't bad ice, but like it's bad for recovery But like instantly after you injure yourself ice is not bad.

Speaker 1 What do you mean by recovery?

Speaker 1 So like because it shuts down your circulation and circulation helps the healing I was talking to Will Compton about it and I then went on a whole rabbit hole like trying to figure out what he he was saying because he was just telling me ice is bad and i couldn't really get what he was saying so then i like had your looks on your faces looked it up it's actually really fascinating so in like ice is bad for like muscle gaining and like cold plunges are kind of good but it's not but then you get you what about the acronym rice yeah rice is bullshit yeah rest ice compression elevation it should just be rce

Speaker 1 okay rce yeah all right i i look forward to that blog um you can sway me on that.

Speaker 1 You could definitely sway me on that. I mean, that's one of those things that you just learn that as like a kid when you get injured.

Speaker 1 And then someday, yeah, maybe big ice is trying to fucking keep us down.

Speaker 4 Jake.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so mine also has to do with keys. Coincidentally enough, this is real.

Speaker 1 You did a key bump for the first time?

Speaker 7 I was waiting for the elevator, took the keys out at my apartment, falls through the elevator slit.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. And I had to clone them from my roommates.

Speaker 7 It was all five. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That is like the. Everyone thinks about it.
It never happens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck. I think the only way that's worse if it's your phone.

Speaker 7 Is that

Speaker 1 possible? I've heard of it happening. I've heard of all of the elevator pods.

Speaker 1 The only way it could be worse is if it was your great-grandfather and he was trying to get the keys and the elevator fell on his head. That's true.
RIP.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that was crazy.

Speaker 7 Also, one more plug.

Speaker 1 Big news. Oh, yes.
Fuck. We should have said this from the top.

Speaker 7 PLL, one of the games, 5 o'clock, has been moved to ESPN 2.

Speaker 1 We're back on ESPN. Yeah, ESPN.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Jake is back on ESPN 2. So Saturday night, you got to watch at 5 o'clock.

Speaker 7 And 7.30 ESPN Plus. ESPN Plus.

Speaker 1 I wish you guys had been in the room when it was just me, Memes, and Jake. And Memes and I were just like, we were evil geniuses.

Speaker 1 We're like, oh, ESPN 2, that's going to be a lot easier to make clips of. And we just both started laughing like yeah we're gonna clip all of this

Speaker 7 so I'm thankful for the opportunity super nervous please tune in and clip it to five o'clock very ESPN plus 730 we've read what's atlas on ESPN 2 and then whips chaos on ESPN plus are you nervous a little bit we have to figure out

Speaker 1 we have to figure out like

Speaker 1 some little small Easter egg that we can put in for the AWLs who will be watching how about we get no whoever's playing really well yeah at any point in the game you'd be like, man, if we could clone this guy and have a team full of him.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Okay, get a clone in there. Can you also, can you give away your necktie at the end of the game? No.

Speaker 4 To a kid. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Come on.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to step on Jim Nance's toes.

Speaker 1 I don't think Jim Nance is going to watch. Yeah.
No, he won't. You never know.
Try to jersey swap.

Speaker 1 What? Toast. Toast.
Oh, yeah. Jim Nance.
Shout out to Jim Nance. Jersey swap with whoever you're announcing with after the broadcast, but while still on air.
Oh, that'd be cool.

Speaker 7 I was focused on the broadcast, but I'm excited. I'm excited too.
Should be fun. Please.
I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to clip it. We're going to hear him say clone.
I want to see the clips of you saying clone. You should work it in easily.
That's an easy. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 If you could clone this guy. Yeah.
So clones. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So I'm excited.
Should be fun.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Great show. Reminder, Wednesday, we got the takeies.
Get excited. Monday, we have one of our longest longest interviews ever.
Great interview with Andrew Schultz, comedian. Really, really fun.

Speaker 1 And hope everyone has a great weekend. Make sure you watch Jake on Saturday.
Also, Patty the Batty and Molly the Meatball are both fighting. So get excited for that.

Speaker 1 Those are our people. Excited.
And our family.

Speaker 1 Our family.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 My family.

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Hank, you're never getting this shit.

Speaker 1 You're never getting this shit. Come on.
Love you guys. There are two million rats in New York City and absolutely zero in Alberta.
Hmm. Could never make the departed up there.

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