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I'm pretty sure it's like 48 days until NFL season starts. Yeah.
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Today is Friday, July 22nd. And did you guys see steph he roasted people he roasted people on the espies oh yeah who could forget the espies oh yeah so i i did not tune in um same not for any reason other than the takeys are next wednesday and they're the greatest award show ever and we actually just finished taping the takeys and i'll say it right now best takeies yet uh but i watched i saw some clips and everyone was like this is where we're at in the sports calendar year people were like oh man steph roasted them and it was literally just steph being like um i see i see some boston celtics here maybe i'll let them wear my ring.
Oh, shit. Yeah.
That's pretty good.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

So, yeah, that was it.

Yeah, I didn't watch.

It was nothing more than that.

I didn't watch because I didn't care.

And I think I was proven right by the reaction to the ESPYs.

The only thing worse than watching the ESPYs is not watching the ESPYs

and then caring about the ESPYs.

Correct.

And what happens during the ESPYs.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, if you don't watch it and then you're mad about it online, you're a loser. Yes.
Yeah, but speaking of that, we're not mad about something. We're just going to rectify something.
Like I said, the takeies are coming next Wednesday. I'm going to give you a little preview.
The first takey is giving out right now. Drumroll, please.
Comeback player of the year. We're giving it Trey Mancini.

I think that's well-deserved.

He came back from cancer.

I mean, who could top that?

Yeah, he was beaten out by Klay Thompson, who came back from an ACL.

Trey Mancini came back from cancer.

Did he win a championship?

What?

I'm just kidding.

The Orioles?

They will.

They're going to win the AL.

400-1.

Hank's sitting down for cancer.

Yeah, wow.

Hank does not stand up for cancer. Hank stands up for cancer.
You stand up for the anthem. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I do.
That's it. That's it.
But yeah, Trey Mancini, that is it. So, print it, post it.
Orioles fans, Trey Mancini has won the first takey of 2022. I wonder what the ratings are.
So, I'm going to kind of go back on what I said earlier about not caring about the ESPYs and then caring about them after the fact. I do want to see what I'm very curious to see what the ratings were on the ESPYs.
Because I feel like when we were kids, the ESPYs, it sounds stupid to say, but like they meant something maybe. Yeah, I didn't.
They actually never meant anything. No, everyone just thinks about Norm MacDonald.
Yeah. And that was awesome.
That that was great making jokes in everyone's face and now they just have steph curry who i love steph curry but he the jokes were just like that was roasting he looked at grant williams he's like maybe i'll let you wear my ring later it was like damn and then there are curry there were some other people that were mad about not getting invited to the espies i saw that i don't care you. I don't care.
You should not care about getting invited to the ESPYs.

No.

I would actually hate to be invited to the ESPYs.

Yeah, it looks hot.

Really hot.

And you have to sit.

You have to buy a suit.

You have to clout.

I saw, I did see Russell Wilson,

a picture of Russell Wilson and Ciara walking out on stage.

And when I text you phone emoji,

that means I'm dialed in.

Dialed in, baby.

He was dialed in.

He was so dialed in.

It looked like he was wearing the entire pants made out of a giant person's cummerbund. It was very funny.
He had a two-tone thing going on. I'm actually going to give Russell Wilson credit.
I think he's crossed the line of he's such a goober that it's fun now. I was thinking about that.
The dialed in tweet was just like, what is this? I was thinking about that yesterday. He's dangerously close to crossing into turn on tweet notifications territory.
Yeah. Because you never know what you're going to get with Russell Wilson.
It's going to be extremely corny, but extremely funny. I didn't know he was dialed in like that.
Yeah. That's crazy.
Bet on the Broncos. All right.
So the other things we have in the sports world. Listen, say what you will about the Live Tour, but them just, like, trying to get everyone in the entire world to join them is giving us some content.
Charles Barkley is the name that everyone has floating out there. I will be pissed if they take him and he doesn't do anything else.
But Charles Barkley, I mean, this isn't a shock, because he actually tells the truth pretty much all the time he was like everyone's got relationships that if you dig into can be a little shady now the live tour is a little more up front about it but Charles Barkley is taking the meeting with Greg Norman because he's like why wouldn't I and that's the first time someone's had a human like reaction to the Live Tour where it's like, no, I'm not saying that I promote them. I'm not saying that I'm in.
I'm taking a meeting. I'll take whatever.
He even talked about his Nike sponsorship. He's like, I'm a Nike guy.
If you dig too much of that, yeah, there's sweatshops. Right.
They do business with China. Nobody's hands are clean.
They should let them play. They should absolutely let them play.
And give them a handicap? Wow, that would be incredible. I was thinking about the Livetour and how everyone says it's a sports-washing thing, right? The entire premise of the Livetour through the Public Investment Fund is to be like a giant commercial for Saudi Arabia.
Like, we're not that bad, Saudi Arabia, we play golf. Right.
It's been a gigantic failure on that respect because all anyone talks about is how bad Saudi Arabia is when the Livet comes up little Streisand effect is definitely the Streisand I wasn't thinking about Saudi Arabia now I am yeah so they've done the very poor job of using golf to spread soft power in that way because it just is making more people talk about it yeah like if you ask just a casual sports fan six months ago thoughts on Saudi Arabia they'd be like I don't, I don't know. And now if you ask them, they're like, oh, yeah, I got thoughts.
Yeah, exactly. So I think that's been a failure so far.
In fact, you could say that every big name that goes over there, they're actually doing a good job spreading the light as to how bad Saudi Arabia is by taking money. Billy had a similar take.
They're stealing money from Saudi Arabia. Yeah, so they're actually the good guys because it's less money for them.
They have unlimited money. They're like Robin Hood.
No, but they're taking it back. Yeah.
It's unlimited. Yeah, but they're taking it.
Everyone's got a limit. Yeah.
If they hire all of us, then we get all of their money. Honestly, they've helped.
As long as gas... I mean, I'm not a world renowned, educated person, but as long as...
I was wondering where that was going. As long as gas, I mean, I'm not a world-renowned educated person, but as long as gas exists, they have unlimited money.
I thought you were going to be like, yeah, I'm not really up on geopolitical things. That's what I was going for.
No, it was just world-renowned educated person. You never say world-renowned educated person and think of Hank.
No. But am I wrong? No, you're not wrong.
They do have a lot of money. They've got a lot of gas.
They've got a lot of gas. They've got a lot of money.
Yeah, so that's basically. And then the other sports story that I had was its official, like, change your uniform season because we had the Bengals with the all-white stripes helmets like a month ago.
The Giants unveiled their throwbacks that they're going to be wearing, and I think the Cowboys also are going to wear the white helmet now for a couple games. I did like our friend Clem, our colleague Clem, who's a big-time Giants fan.
His analysis of the Giants using their throwback jerseys was spot on he said it makes them slower but stronger on defense and better tacklers and i i would say harder to tackle too it's got a little ron dane vibe yeah so so that's good so if you're if you're trying to handicap it just know that they're not going to beat anyone to track meet but but they will be sound on defense and play stronger.

I think that the Bengals' white helmets, it makes them faster on offense.

I think Joe Burrow will score five passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns wearing those helmets,

but special teams will be a liability.

Kick coverage, especially, and kickoff returns.

I don't see that working out well.

And then the Cowboys' helmet is just another cool helmet we get to watch the cowboys blow a primetime game in yeah it'll be like oh they have two receivers that kind of look in body type like terrell owens right right and maybe we get the actual benefit of mike mccarthy after the game being like i just blame the helmets for that play call yeah uh i i did not like what the giants did i victimized. We should feel victimized as a podcast, what the Giants did with their new uniforms.
They're wearing them two nights this year. Two nights, Big Cat.
They're called Legacy Games. Eli, another retirement? You know who they're playing in those Legacy Games? Ooh, Washington football team? The Commanders and the Bears.
Oh, didn't know that. They singled us out as a podcast no they absolutely did and so we're on notice we have to show up for those legacy games yeah they were like we gotta we gotta win these legacy games here are the two teams we can beat yes these are the two easiest teams on our schedule let me just look at the legacy game giant schedule 2022 that's that's unfortunate because i assume these are either one of those games could be be Thursday night games.
Both give off Thursday night vibes. I would assume they're home games, right? They have to wear these at home.
Probably. Yeah, so let's just see.
So they have their – this does suck. This does feel like we've been singled out.
Yes, 100%. They do have the Panthers on September 18th.
Oh, no, that's the regular season. Yeah, so they have the Panthers.
You'd think maybe that would have been – it was that bad because now we're worse than the Panthers. Yes.
Yeah, that feels – In the national mindset, I think if you say Washington Commanders versus Carolina Panthers, just in general – I'm not talking about this specific roster. I'm talking about just strictly based off vibes.
I think the Panthers like a little bit better than both of our teams yes yes all right so i'm looking at right now panthers cowboys bears so that's smart by them ravens they're definitely not beating them texans they didn't do the texans at home so this also probably here's c pft we're thinking about the wrong way yes it's probably because they want to win their legacy games but they also chose like historic franchises yeah yeah you can't go up again you

can't go up again you can't do legacy game against the Texans you can't do that that's a one o'clock kickoff that people are like on the red zone channel like oh shit that game's going on also I feel like using the legacy the oomph that you would get from having those throwback unis against the Texans would feel a little wasteful. Yeah.
It's like we could have beaten the Texans without these.

Yes.

Like this is just like they're a team that we're confident that we can win.

We just want to make sure that we win.

Yes, exactly.

So anything else in sports?

I don't, I mean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The big news, contract news.

Oh.

Kyler Murray.

Yes.

Signed an extension.

I think he got, what, 160 million?

Yep.

Guaranteed.

So that's happening. So Kyler Murray, I guess he's putting, probably re-following them on Instagram now officially.
I'd like him to unblock me so I can congratulate him. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money.
Right now, how much do you think they overpaid for Kyler Murray? How much was it again? Is this now, is this Schefter dollars? Five years, 230.5. Is that Schefter dollars? That is Schefter dollars.

Run that through the guaranteed money conversion.

Do we have a guaranteed money?

I think it's $160 million.

It's in that ballpark.

It's a lot of guaranteed money.

I'm going to say it's overpaid.

$160 guaranteed.

I think they overpaid for him, too.

I really do.

They only offered Pat Tillman $9 million.

Yeah, that's true.

Kyler is sick at Call of Duty, though.

Yeah.

Isn't he like 100 Thieves or something?

Phase K1.

Okay, great. Because I actually, this is when you know football is coming back.
September 8th. I'm starting to think about my bets.
And I literally said to myself, no joke, I was walking to work and I was like, I think Cardinals week one's going to be my lock of the week. Oh, I like that.
Yeah, so I'm getting into that mode where it's like, all right, what's the week one card looking like? I think that there are certain quarterbacks that you can do that. Kyler's engineered to be an early season guy.
With a the chiefs that's a good game you get a great line yeah good line yeah track meet and the chiefs don't have tyreek hopkins back yeah so wait or is he suspended for i can't remember i think yeah some kind of something yeah so definitely i i feel like kyler is a good guy to bet on in september october colt mccoy is a good quarterback to bet on for like one week in mid-November. I was going to say week 15.
Yeah, mid-November, maybe late November. That's Colt McCoy territory.
Yes, yes. But it's exciting to have the thought, ooh, I wonder what my week one lock's going to be and have it not be that far away.
I mean, mine's already the over in the first game. Yeah, Bills and Rams.
Bills and Rams, Sunday Night Football. That's going to be fucking electric.
God damn it. Get here, football.
All right. Let's do our Mount Rushmore, and then we will do our interview with George Nang, which was awesome, in studio, and then we'll wrap up with Fyre Fest.
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Who's going to start? Well, maybe we can pick the order since we won the last one.

Why don't we pick the order since we won the one before that?

Well, I'm just going off of the precedent you guys sent last episode.

Did we pick the order last night? Yeah.

We did?

I don't think we did.

I think you picked the ball first.

Yeah, no, we didn't pick the ball.

Let's pick the ball machine.

So, erroneous.

Erroneous.

All right, go ahead, Hank.

Why don't you pick the ball first?

12.

I feel like it's coming up.

Okay.

Billy?

69.

69.

All right, so we should go somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, let's go with – let's go 20.

35?

Yeah, 35.

Yeah, it's going to be 21.

35.

You know that you guys keep giving us the best span numbers.

Yeah.

It doesn't matter.

We have a been winning. 18.
18. Congratulations, Hank.
Thank you. So what's the order? Let's go with us one.
You guys second. Billy and Jake third.
Interesting. There's some good foods here, but there's also a top-heavy draft.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Tacos. Okay, yeah.
Obvious 1-1. Obvious 1-1.
That was the most obvious 1-1 ever. Tacos rock.
Yeah, tacos are the fucking best. I had Taco Bell for breakfast today.
Great breakfast. Great breakfast.
Crunchwrap Supreme. Fuck.
Choke me out with a leather leash and throw me into a volcano. Yes.
God damn it. I'm going to put it on the list, but I'm going to support it.
I agree. Bonk, but it was a justified bonk.
Can you repeat that again just for the record? Yeah. Crunchwrap Supreme, Breakfast Crunchwrap Supreme from Taco Bell.
I want it to

choke me out with a dog collar on a

leather leash and then I want it to

throw me into a real volcano.

Nice. That's fire

sauce. Yeah.
They actually make

fire sauce straight from a volcano.

That's how good it is. Imagine

if they had lava in that. Peg me with a

frozen popsicle made out of their hot sauce. Yeah, Baja Blast.
There you go. Okay.
We're going to go with our... We got the second pick.
Yep. All right.
We're going to go with T-Bone. Fuck.
T-Bone. Yeah.
You really like T-Bone. We should start calling you T-Bone.
Yeah, T-Bone. That's tough.
T-Bone steaks are delicious you T-Bone Yeah T-Bone That's tough T-Bone steaks are delicious T-Bones Billy probably can't even name the different custom meats You get half New York strip You get half filet So good T-Bones Billy you don't like me? I thought we'd get away with that one. Yeah.

Nope.

Okay.

First, we're going to go turkey.

Okay.

First.

Okay.

Interesting.

And then Billy?

You know who the real turkey is?

Obama.

Then we're going to go with tenderloin.

Oh.

All right.

What kind of tenderloin?

Because you got pork, you got beef.

Beef.

So it's a B word. No, it's tenderloin because you got pork you got beef uh beef so it's a b word so no it's tenderloin comma beef okay so it's a worse cut of meat than the t-bone yeah if that doesn't qualify i just we wanted him to because maybe we'll take tenderloin comma pork who knows all right pft i think we go with the third on that list.
Yeah, yep. For sure.
Third. We're going to go with tortilla chips.
Yeah. I love tortilla chips.
Who doesn't? Snack on them. Dip them.
Queso. Salsa.
Guacamole. Tortilla chips, baby.
You guys going to have any? Oh, no. You can't.
You can't have any tortilla chips with your tacos because we took them. That's too bad.

Nothing.

Icy stare.

Hint of lime.

No, I'm reviewing our list.

This is where it gets.

This is where.

Did you have tortilla chips?

This is where champions get made.

Yeah.

We will go with tomato soup.

Oh, okay. A little gazpacho.

Yeah, wait. A little cheese and tomato soup.
So you're talking about like the cream of tomato soup? What the fuck other kind of tomato soup is there? Well, Big Cat just said gazpacho. Yeah, it's a cold one.
That's what the fuck other kind of tomato soup there is. Wait, it's Mount Rushmore of food that starts with tea.
It is a tomato soup. So why would I be talking about gazpacho? Did you just censor yourself? Yeah.
Well, the F. Okay, good pick.
Tomato soup on a cold day. Yeah.
It's nothing better. And then we'll go with tortellini.
Oh, tortellini. Good pick.
Good pick. Good pick, Hank.
Thank you. All right, PFT.
I think we go with our fourth there, and then we save the last one. Yeah.
So you want to say it, or you want me to say it? I'll say it. We're going to go with Twix.
Twix! Candy bar, delicious. You got chocolate, caramel, cookie crisp.
I think Twix is the candy bar, unlike any other, where I don't think anyone has Twix as their number one, but everyone has Twix in their top three or four. Yes.
You know what I mean? It's the most consistent. No one really bashes Twix.
It shows up all the time. They're great.
Frozen two. So good.
It's like a possession receiver. Yeah, right.
Exactly. Nice long crunch.
Nice long crunch. 800 yards out of them.
Twix is just a solid worker. You know what I like about Twix is it's about the size of a standard candy bar, but there are two of them.

Yeah. That's the best part.
Double the pleasure.

Double the fun. Are you a left Twix guy

or right Twix guy? I go left first.

Always. I actually

don't know. I think I like

to bite both of them at the same time. Yeah.

Just double fist. I go savage

Twix style. Alright.

The boys. Jilly.
Alright, so this one has two words in it. I've heard itix style.
All right. The boys, Jilly.

All right.

So this one has two words in it.

I've heard it both ways.

So hopefully you guys approve.

Teriyaki chicken.

I Google it.

You guys are really, really going borderline.

Some people said chicken teriyaki.

Some people say teriyaki chicken.

And teriyaki is like the seasoning.

Yeah.

And you already did the other one.

I think it has to be seasoning comma teriyaki. I think you could pick teriyaki is like the seasoning yeah and you already did the other one i think it has to be seasoning comma teriyaki i think you could pick teriyaki that's a sauce yeah you could put this food you could pick teriyaki i don't think you get teriyaki chicken if that makes sense so you guys get tortilla chips yeah we did we got tortilla chips they're tortilla chips there are specific kind of chips that's actually a good point by Billy.
You actually are just getting tortillas. No, it's made from a tortilla.
Yeah, you get tortillas. Yeah.
It's made from a tortilla. But not the chips.
But not the chips. But not the chips.
Yeah, chips are made from the tortilla. What are you talking about? The chicken.
The chips are made from the tortilla. But it's just, we're talking about words here.
You had to start. I'm going to give them teriyaki chicken.
Okay, thank you. I don't think that's.
You can have tortilla chips. No, but I think.
A, but I think tortilla chips are literally made from the tortilla. You know how they make them, right? Potato chips.
Right, we didn't take potato chips. Right, but like tortilla chips.
Yeah, we took the tortilla chips because they're made from tortilla. So we took the teriyaki chicken because it's made from teriyaki? It's made with teriyaki.
No, it's not made from teriyaki. It's made with teriyaki.
I'm back on their side. On whose? Yours.
Yeah. Tortilla chips are made from tortillas.
No, but tortilla chips are made with tortillas and salt. No, they're made from tortillas.
Exactly. But it's just fried tortillas.
Yeah, they're fried tortillas. So vetoed.
No, you can take teriyaki. Teriyaki's a good pick.
Teriyaki's not a food. Yeah, it's not a food.
It's a sauce. Yeah, it's not.
It's a it's a sauce and it's a style of cooking yeah i don't like that all right so flip a coin flip a coin flip a coin i say we give them no that's not a food i wanted tequila so bad it's not a food all right i'll let you guys hear we'll decide odds are even pft will watch behind me you guys pick you guys even for no no no no there's a debate we don't no no that's fine odds are even for a lottery ball. No, if it's going to be.
Yeah, odds are even. No, no, no.

If there's a debate, we don't.

No, no, that's fine.

Odds are even for the lottery ball.

What do you guys want?

But there are some restaurants that recognize it as teriyaki chicken.

Yeah, odds are even.

I've heard it both ways.

I think it's a 50-50.

Let's have a order.

I order a chicken teriyaki.

Yeah, so come on.

That's what I'm saying.

All right, so 50-50.

So we won't take it.

Actually, teriyaki beef jerky.

Oh, my God.

You're doing the exact same thing, just with beef jerky.

Oh, damn, he got us there. Also, that would not win over teriyaki chicken.
Yeah, teriyaki chicken is delicious. All right, odds are even.
We're going to leave it up to the machine. Even.
You got one less. Are you sure you're going odd, Billy? Billy would have picked odds.
Billy, would you have picked odds? It's numbers. I don't care.
Oh, wow. Nihilist.

Odd.

All right.

Wow.

That doesn't count.

So, Billy, I'm going to overrule you here on this next one.

I think a lot of people like it.

Tater tots.

Oh, good pick.

Ooh, that's a great fucking excellent pick. Thank you.

Billy didn't want that one.

Damn.

You didn't want tater tots?

You didn't want tater tots?

Oh, no, no.

Taters.

I wanted teriyaki chicken over tater tots.

Were you trying to do an entire keto Mount Rushmore?

No, maybe.

I don't know.

Thank you. How could you not want tater tots? I wanted teriyaki chicken over teriyaki.
Were you trying to do an entire keto, Mount Rushmore? No, maybe. I don't know.
Tater tots just never end up getting eaten. What are you talking about? I love them.
Oh, thank you for vouching for a pick. Yes, that's a great pick.
It's a good pick. You're trying to talk yourself out of it.
I'm mad at ourselves for not coming up with tater tots. That's almost worse than not picking Snape was a good guy the whole time.
You're talking about tater tots like it's coleslaw. Yeah, tater tots are dominant.
I just would like chicken teriyaki over tater tots. That was the whole description.
Right, tater tots are a great pick. One starts with a T, though.
Okay. If you don't have anything else, we're going with it.
No, I got one. Oh, God.
I have no idea what this is. It's coming off the rip.
Tuna sushi. Tuna sushi.
Would you like to just have tuna? Tuna's a good pick. I had tuna on my list's a good pick.
Tuna. You also get probably tuna salad along with that.
Yeah. You got a lot of tuna.
You get all the tunas. Tuna tartare.
Tuna tartare, tuna sushi, the actual, like, eating a tuna fish. Tuna sashimi.
Tuna sandwich. Tuna sandwich.
That's good. You guys got some good picks there out of tuna steak.
Damn. Somehow you guys talked yourselves into a good pick.
Alright, our last pick. PFT, go ahead and take it away.
So this is a pick that I think that if you look at the rest of the Mount Rushmore, you're going to need this one on anybody's list. Tums.
Clean up with some Tums. Snack them down.
Is that a food? Great question, Billy. Billy asked it not me.
Is that a food stuff? But it's a perfectly valid question. You eat it.
Is that a food stuff? You eat it. It's a food.
What do you do with Tums, Bill? Wait, wait, wait. What aisle is in the grocery store? What do you do with it in the grocery store? Who regulates? Answer the question.
What aisle is it in the grocery store? Shut the fuck up. What do you do with Tums? You medicate yourself with it.
What do you do with medicine? What do you do with Advil? So Advil's a food. What do you do with Tums?

No, it's different because you eat. You digest it.

You chew it.

Because you need it to get into your system.

You chew it and you swallow it.

No, that's a medicine, bro.

You chew it.

Tums.

Tums.

That's a medicine.

Great pick.

We're on the right side of history.

Do you take Tums or do you eat Tums?

I have a Tums is what I do.

I eat them.

Hey, do you want to go take some Tums? No, I eat them. Is there any restaurants that you can buy Tums at? Yeah.
Do you take? It's not a food stuff. Where? Sure, a bunch of them.
The subways that are attached to a pilot gas station? Tums is not a food stuff. It is food.
You eat it? It is not a food stuff. The FDA, which is food and drug.
What the fuck does food stuff mean? Food stuff is how they classify Wait, you know what's interesting? This is getting contentious. I like it.
You know what's interesting about Tums is they have nutrition information. No, they don't.
Yes, they do. Sodium 5 milligrams.
Total carbohydrate 2 grams. Sugar's 2 grams.
Dude, so does Advil. Dude, do they have a warning label? Do they have a warning label? I highly doubt Tums does.
Tums has a warning label. You guys want to take it off? That's fine.
Take it off. I think we do this, PFT.
We fucking switch it up on them with that bad boy. By the way, Advil I don't think has a nutrition.
Because it does. It just has acetamatofa.
Okay. Yeah.
Drinks also. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Tobacco Leafs.

Yeah.

Tobacco Leafs.

That is not a food stuff.

You chew it up.

That is not a food stuff.

You absolutely can.

Which one do you want?

I'll let you pick.

You pick.

You want to give us tobacco or you want to give us Tums?

No, this isn't a choice.

I'll give you tobacco because people are going to be like, this is the dumbest Mount Rushmore

ever for you picking Mount Rushmore Foods and you picking tobacco.

No, you cannot. You can give us tobacco, Tums, or teriyaki chicken.
I will let you guys choose tobacco if I'm going to go buy some Redman and you have to eat it. Yes.
Eat it. Swallow, eat it.
I like that, Billy. If you can find Redman in the next 30 minutes, then you're on.
I have some at my desk. Oh, bring it in here.
You been holding that on us? Yes. Get it, Billy.
Should we just go with this one? No. Let's just keep going down the line.
Do you want to eat it? All right, fine. Are you going to eat it? You eat tobacco.
Yeah, we'll eat it. But if you don't want that, we'll do our last pick.
Fine. We'll cancel both of them.
Okay. Our last pick is Taco Bell.
We had all these on our list. Yeah, we had all these on our list.
Which one do you guys want us to take? Taco Bell. A new one.
Go get the Redman. Is Taco Bell not food? No, it's not.
It's a restaurant. Billy, go get the Redman.
I'm not going to make you swallow the Redman. I want to.
You definitely don't have it. Go get it.
He called my bluff. He called my bluff.
I called my bluff. Such a fucking liar.
I have some on my desk. So we have Taco Bell? What's our pick? Taco Bell, Tums, and Tobacco? It sounds like a great Saturday.
Dude, that's perfect. Yeah.
Give him tobacco slash Tums. I don't care.
Yeah. Tums and Tobacco.
Just put that on the graphic. You guys have no integrity for Mount Rushmore.
That's fine. You have it.

Just put cheating for the graphic.

This is what Mount Rushmore season's about, though.

It's about arguing about the dumbest things possible in the middle of July.

I suppose so.

I mean, it's definitely what it's supposed to be about.

A lot of pressure on you guys for your last pick.

Yeah.

We just took tobacco, Tums, and Taco Bell.

Pure domination.

So we got tacos, delicious, tomato soup, great soup. Oh, you didn't say delicious? What was our third pick? Tortellini.
So we have a broad variety. That's a great meal.
That's a great meal in general. If you have a meal with tacos, tomato soup, tortellini, you're eating good.
It's like the Jimmy V speech. For dessert, tiramisu.
Okay. Good pick.
We had tiramisu also. I don't like it.
Give me a twist. You? Yeah, me.
I don't like tiramisu. That says something.
Isn't it coffee-related? You just walked into that trap, Hank. I'm the man who will eat every dessert in the world.
Tiramisu is bottom-tier dessert. It's all fancy.
It's too expensive. Yeah, it's fancy.
It's fancy it's good though i agree with the price but it's delicious give me ice cream give me twix give me fucking gummy bears give me cookies yeah but some restaurants don't have those options give me ice cream cake yeah some nice restaurants they only have like it's like a shitty like pumpkin cake or tiramisu no that's not true No, no, no. It's not consistent.
You can say that tiramisu is good when it's cooked well. It's delicious.
But when it's bad, it's really bad. I would actually put tres leches cake above tiramisu.
I'd put souffle over tiramisu. I would also take ice cream over tiramisu.
Yeah. I just, if you look at any nice restaurant, you go, tiramisu's on the menu for desserts.
I guarantee you they have some type of ice cream, apple pie, like brownie. They're all better.
They're all better. I think tiramisu's also the main dessert.
It's the main dessert that you split with your table. You're like, let's get a tiramisu and then let's order some other stuff that we actually want to have all of.
Yeah, fair. I'll take a bite of tiramisu.
People say that all the time. Like, can I just have one bite of your tiramisu? I don't like.
So the taste of tiramisu isn't bad. It's the texture that I don't like.
I don't like the texture of tiramisu. I don't mind it, but if it's cooked poorly, it's very bad.

Okay, that was good. That was a very contentious Mount Rushmore.
What do we have left off? Feels good to

yell at each other. Turkey tetrazzini.

Over T words.

Tetrazzini. Oh, wow,

Billy, you missed a big one. Turkey tetrazzini.

Testosterone?

You can't eat that.

Maybe you can. It's like

Twizzlers or tiramisu.

Twizzlers. I love Twizzlers.
We also had three musketeers. Some people don't like that, though.
Would tapas have counted? Nope. No.
I was saying taquenos. See, here's the thing with tiramisu, too, Hank.
If we had done tortilla soup, would that have counted? Yes. Yeah.
Tiramisu is coffee flavored. Just drink the coffee.
It's way better. Get ice cream and apple pie and have a cup of coffee.
That's a dessert, baby. A little digestion going.
Timbits. Timbits are good.
We had Triscuits. I like Triscuits.
People have been slandering Triscuits. They're fine.
Totino's Pizza Rolls count. Yeah.
We had those. We had those.
Damn. I don't know if that would count.
Is that pizza rolls?

Is that the brand?

Right.

I would. This is why I like doing these alphabet ones.

What about really get you in a.

What about Takis?

Would Takis have counted?

Yeah, we almost did Takitos.

We almost did all taco stuff, but would it have been a force if we did tacos, Takitos,

Taco Dip, and Taco Salad?

Would have been fun.

Yeah, he probably would have won. Yeah.
I'll work. Unfortunately, not Unfortunately, you're not going to anymore.
You're not going to win. Tzatziki sauce? Yes.
That's a good one, too. That's a sauce.
But it's great. You guys, you're unfair.
Tabasco? Tabasco? So we got it. Titties? We had titties.
It is. Yeah, okay.
We got to do the Mount Rushmore of like one letter sauces.

Sure.

Did we do sauces once?

We did do sauces.

But if we narrow it down.

Actually, I think the sauce Mount Rushmore was the original contentious one.

Yeah.

This is when you box it into a letter, it gets spicy.

I think we just unlocked a lot of Mount Rushmore's we can do.

Sauces with a B.

Yeah.

Buffalo.

Win.

Barbecue. No, I beat you.
Bar B? Yeah. Buffalo.
Win. Barbecue.

No, I beat you.

Barbecuffalo.

Bosniak.

Bosniak?

What's that?

It's a great sauce.

What?

Is this another invention?

Is that a person?

Is it an ethnicity?

Bosniak?

Bosniak sauce? It sounds like something involved in the communist revolution. Bosnian meatball sauce? Bosnian sauce? Bosniak sauce.
How do you spell it? Can you use it in a sentence? Bolognese. Great sauce to the B.
It's my favorite pasta. Boobie milk.
Fuck, bolognese. That's a great miss miss it wasn't a miss what for the tea oh yeah one of my i am now bosnia got me all we got lost we got lost what is bosnia just just threw me in a spiral where you don't know you just said a word and just thought we'd be like yeah okay what is bosnia i should have picked bolognese i'm now, I'm stuck in a back and forth on Google where it says,

did you mean Bosniak sauce?

Yes.

And then he goes to that page and says, did you mean Bosniak sauce?

I click it again.

How do you say Bosnia?

Did you mean bisque?

Oh, this is from the Balkans?

Yeah, dude.

This is from Bosnia?

Yeah, you haven't had it?

What gave it away?

Bosniak chicken.

It was right there if we were doing the bees. Bosnia chicken.
All right. Great Mount Rushmore.
I had fun with that, boys. That felt good to have a little disagreement.
It is. If Mount Rushmore at its core is you got to just find the dumbest thing to argue about with your friends in the middle of the summer.
You just described Congress. Yeah, right.
This is what we get up while we lift all them damn weights. All right, let's get to our interview.
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Yeah, why don't you ask us? He's in New York now, right? Yeah, I know. Good question.
Yes, he is in Brooklyn. Yes, correct.
How do you guys feel about him? I feel strongly about him in many types of ways. Are you going to get into detail or are you just going to give me the half-assed answer? We've said on the show before that if there was no basket, he would be the best basketball player in the league.
Elite. Elite passer.
Incredible. Elite defender.
Incredible. Do you still talk to him at all? No.
So I was never really close. I don't even know if I had his phone number.
You showed up at the 76ers when he said he didn't want to play for them anymore. Awkward.
Yeah, that is awkward. Okay, well, we'll go with easier question.
How sick is joel mbid because he's just a monster oh dude he's like and i don't even think he knows like how good he can be like because when he like gets angry and like is dominant like there's been a couple times where he's had like 50 46 37 and you know he says i'm mean? Yeah, I went to a game a few years ago. I can't remember.
I think it was the Rockets. It was actually James Harden was playing the Rockets still versus the Sixers.
And I remember just watching him down low and putting it off the glide. The ball looks like he's playing with a little tiny ball next to his body, and he just controls everything.
And people forget, usually big men in this day and age, it's easy to double team. People are double teaming, triple teaming.
He's shooting mid-range jumpers over them, going by them, dunking on them. So, I mean, I just think it's impressive.
Obviously, I'm on the Joel Embiid campaign of why he didn't win MVP, but it is what it is. Do you ever have to team up in practice? No, that's not my position.
I stay far away. You stay far away? You never have to double team him? Yeah, no.
Whoa. But no, sometimes.
But I wouldn't say he's ultra competitive in practice. I mean, he can glide through practice, but when he's on, like if if we're practicing before the playoffs, I would say nobody's really touching him.
Can you tell going into a game if he's pissed off, if he's ready to go, like, totally locked in, like nobody's going to be able to stop this guy tonight? You know, he probably gives us, like, a heads up, like a watch this. And then you're like, yeah, alright, Joel.
He looked awesome in the mask. I think he should wear the mask full time yes i think so yes i don't know how i could do something like that you know what i mean i'm such a simple guy but that would just like yeah annoy me but he was a he is a beast mask or no no mask yeah yeah he i mean his playoffs where he was just like every day was a different body part he got injured and he was still out there um so your your career is crazy man.
Have you had a moment where you're like, I've not made it, but you got drafted in the second round. A lot of second rounders don't make it in the NBA.
That's just a fact. You went to the G League.
Then you worked your way back. You signed a few contracts here.
It's a hell of a story when you actually kind of piece it all together because there's a lot of guys they get drafted in the second round, either they don't make the team or they're on the team for a year. G League they go over to Europe and then it's over.
Yeah. No, I mean I was looking the other day just for my own personal mind or benefit and I think it's like me and three other guys that got drafted in the second round that are still in the NBA and it's like like Malcolm Brogdon, me, and then I want to say it's like Jake Lehman, who was my AAU teammate.
But yeah, I'm not going to lie to you and say that I thought it was all going to be easy. Like I got cut from my first team in Indiana and fucking I was like, did I just blow my only opportunity in the NBA? And then you kind of go, you know, second year guys that get cut usually go to the G League and kind of fizzle out.
But I kind of like sacrificed everything. Like, I remember I was doing whatever anybody asked.
They're like, you need to improve your body. I went vegan.
You need to, you know, make more shots. I started doing like this 300 shot routine before practice and lifting every day.
Like, and the biggest thing for me was just realizing that if I quit, it gave someone else an opportunity behind me to be one step closer so I was like fuck it I'll just continue to eat shit and not quit and whatever happens like I can live with if that's going overseas and it's going overseas but I know it's cliche and like corny as it sounds like you're probably like oh don't quit no no it's not at all it was just like I just kept showing up every day, good, bad, or indifferent. If I felt like shit, felt great, I was just like, all right, I'm going to show up and do these three things in my routine.
And fucking it landed me in Utah. I never thought I'd be in Utah.
And then four years later, it landed me in Philadelphia. And this year was kind of like where my career kind of took off.
And people were like, oh shit, like he's a legit rotational player. Yeah, he can contribute to a team.
So was there a moment when you were doing all these things, taking, you know, 300 shots before the game, lifting, vegan, all that stuff, where you hit a moment where you're like, I'm way better now. Like I can see that I'm so much better.
You know, I don't think it's like a moment. I think it's like you take time to look back at what you've done in like a small stint and you're like, damn, I've been fucking good.
Yeah. I mean, it was in the G League.
I was like, damn, I'm good. And then I got signed to like a regular contract in the NBA and you're playing pickup with the guys and there's no like, you don't feel that like sense of nervousness.
Like, how do I fit in? You're like're like not like I am one of them yeah it's just I'm waiting for my opportunity which is everything

in the NBA because sometimes you have to wait behind guys who make more money than you and

different shit like that but I waited for my opportunity and luckily you know Quinn Snyder who

sadly isn't the Utah Jazz coach anymore but he gave me an opportunity and I kind of just

ran with it was there a moment where you started playing and you were like, I think I can fit in this league? Yeah. Where it kind of clicked for you and you knew that you had a future? So I started at Utah.
I got signed halfway through the year on that new two-way contract, so you're down in the G League and up with the team. And then the next year, they to like a a deal and uh quinn snyder played me i think it was like the second game of the season against golden state and i get into the game and i had a good training camp made a made some threes in my first three like i shoot off like the top of the backboard and i was like oh my god like this dude trusted me to be oh no you're gonna get us in trouble Westbrook and so I was like damn and I'm running down the sideline and DeMarcus Cousins is like man hell no don't ever shoot no shit like that again and I'm like damn it like this is fucking.
This guy believed in me, put me in the game. Now I got DeMarcus Cousins talking shit to me.
And luckily the ball came to me. Like, another time I had a wide open three and I hit it.
And that was kind of like the moment that was like the, all right, you made your first one. And then I ended up making a couple more throughout the game.
We ended up losing to the Warriors. But it was like the confidence I needed and reassurance to be like, all right, you I can do this against the defending champion Warriors, I can do it against anybody.
Yeah. The fact you did it after you shot the shot from hell the first time.
Yeah. And oxygen ball, we like to call it.
Yeah. I feel like it also is now, it's become like a lot of the analysis in the NBA, people are like, oh, he got hunted on defense.
Yeah. Have you been, is there a moment where you were hunted? Oh, yeah.
How bad does that feel? Yeah. And I mean, I don't want to bring racing to it, but when you look like the slow white guy, that's kind of like the worst is when someone's like pointing at you and the other guy runs up and the guy's like, no, no, no, him.
Not him. Him.
And if you're on the other end of that, it sucks. But I mean, people don't understand is that if you're the guy in the action that's getting, you're going at, these are NBA players.
Like, they're going to, I don't care if it's the best defender, they're going to score on you. Now, if you're constantly getting scored on, then, you know, you start to become the hunted.
But if you can mix in a couple stops, they usually just tend to leave you alone. Yeah, I actually, J.J.
Redick, a friend of the show, he had a point that I kind of changed how I looked at it. Because I think there's a lot of people who are like, the NBA, they don't play defense.
They don't, like, you know, college, they play defense. Like, no, the NBA, just everyone's so fucking good that even if you're playing great defense, you could play great defense against Steph, and he's still going to score 25-30.
So you think that's fair that the defense, it's not the defense, it's the fact that the offense and everyone can make a shot? Yeah, believe me, I'm trying. And don't worry, the guys on the offensive end in college, they had to go to math class and science class.
In the NBA, I'm in the gym four or five hours a day. So those shots tend to go in a lot more.
And these are the best 450 players in the world. Yeah.
These guys are paid a lot of money to make a lot of tough shots. And we're trying.
Believe me, we're trying. But these fuckers are so good.
Could you imagine guarding Kevin Durant? No. I DM up because I just mentally break him down.
Oh, yeah, I forgot. I tried to help you out.
I would break him down. You think we can get him on here? We've been trying.
We've been trying. I feel like we've been close many times, but he's just alpha-ing me all the time.
He just has the scene on Instagram DMs.

So he sees them all

and just never replies.

Dang, we gotta work on that.

Yeah, can you help me?

I'll try.

Is there a hierarchy

where like you can,

like in the NBA

where it's like

the stars only talk

to the stars

and like the other guys

only talk to the other guys?

Nah, I wouldn't say that.

Okay.

I would think sometimes

superstars get sick

of hanging out

with other superstars.

There's too much ego

in one room.

Yeah, who's't say that. I would think sometimes superstars get sick of hanging out with other superstars.
There's too much ego in one room. Yeah, only one ball.
I was about to say the room might blow up. Yeah, yeah, true.
On that note, have you been invited to go out on the town with James Harden yet? How close are you with James? You been in the champagne room? That's my guy, man. That's my guy.
He takes care of his people. Does he? He takes care of his people.
James is a great dude, and I think a lot of people get caught up in the whole strip club, James, and this, that, and the other. I think if any other player, when you have your downtime, you like to enjoy life.
Yeah. And like he said to me, I think he's 32, he said, I've had 32 great years of life.
And I'm like, James, I definitely believe you. I don't disagree with that one bit.
How much though, because the NBA is, it's weird that it only feels like an only NBA problem where for some reason social media and the NBA, it's always every little mistake, everything is put on blast, legacy talk. Like I actually kind of agree somewhat with KD when he's like, why is every conversation about legacy or like who could beat this guy? Like does anyone talk about that in the locker room or like they're like, this is so lame that every game is now like, you know, this is MJ would never do this.
Yeah, no, people, I mean, people would be so surprised. Like, the conversations that we have in the locker room are probably, like, so much more simpler than what people freaking think.
Like, nobody is comparing themselves to freaking MJ or Kareem and anything like that. Sure, we'll talk about guys that have come in the past, but nobody's doing that stupid pissing contest and see who's better.
But, I mean, I've sat down and watched some good arguments on Instagram Live on whose legacy is here, and then you sit back and think about it, and you're like, huh, they might be right. It would actually be funny if you started that next year in the locker room.
You just had a big whiteboard at your locker and like after every good Embiid game you're like

legacy mark like okay you're

a little bit higher or it's like

equal to or greater than

yeah he just keeps going up and down

just so you know Joel this is where I got you

right now in legacy I was gonna say you're

you were top 8 before this you're top

6 now alright you get me a

championship you'll be top 3

yeah the MVP takes

you to the next level of you gotta have like a pantheon

you reach pantheon level

Thank you. six now, all right? You get me a championship, you'll be top three.
This is Bill Simmons' wet dream, yeah. Yeah, the MVP takes you to the next level of, you've got to have like a Pantheon.
You reach Pantheon level three. I do think though that when you're having the legacy conversation, in a way it's a compliment to the person because we don't talk about legacy conversations with nobodies, right? No, 100%.
So in a weird way, it's a good thing that they're talking about you in that way, but then if you pay attention to the day-to-day of it, it's really just because they have nothing else to talk about. No, 100%.
It drags on because anybody can have an opinion because nobody will ever see Joel against Akeem Olajuar. Or nobody will see, this one's a good one, Ja Morant against Michael Jordan.
Oh, who do you got? Stop. Ja? Me too.
No, out. Like, think about who MJ was playing against.
He's the problem. You're the problem.
No, we absolutely feed into it. We accidentally get into those conversations.
That's the thing is, like, as annoying as they can be, they also are kind of fun sometimes. So we'll, like, just accidentally be like, oh, like, what if it was, like, I think we had the conversation.
we were joking about MJ and magic for Steph and LeBron, and we're like, this is so stupid. And then 10 minutes later, we're actually breaking it down.
Okay, I got one for you guys to break down. It's not even in basketball.
Ready? Yeah. Tom Brady or Zach Wilson? Overall life.
Life? Legendary. Ooh.
I think Tom Brady's still got him. Well, Zach Wilson's great.
He's going to go to heaven. Yeah.
Because his religion is correct. Yeah.
But this life, Tom Brady, the afterlife, Zach Wilson. Yeah.
And Tom Brady definitely sold his soul to the devil, too. Next 10 years, maybe Zach Wilson? Maybe.
Yeah. Because he's got it all in front of him right now.
Yeah. And there's a lot of cougars out there.
There is. All right, so let me ask this.
We've had this discussion. If that story happens in the NBA locker room, are people like, that's kind of cool, dude? Yeah, you'd be like, one of my old teammates, Jordan Clarkson, would have been like, right on, bro's freaking out it's like i'm pretty sure the locker room's gonna be fine with it yeah honestly i had no i heard it like i was out in vegas for like nba summer and i heard it and i was like yeah yeah like i got a 16 like i'm gonna stay i didn't even think twice about hearing like the story i was playing blackjack and then like i got on the plane i was reading it and i I was like, his ex-girlfriend, what an idiot.

Yeah. and like the story I was playing blackjack and then like I got on the plane and I was reading it and I was like his ex-girlfriend like what an idiot like keep your personal business to yourself don't get on Instagram comments you just blew that whole thing up you would have been solid like nobody needs to know that and now everybody's back on this guy's side you can delete Instagram comments you could have just been like homie hopper delete over.
Then everything's gone. That's true.
How nice is it being able to go out to Vegas and not have to play in the summer league? Oh, dude. Unreal.
Because summer league, I mean, it's got to be very nerve wracking. It's a grind.
And like you're anxious all the time because you're like, someone of the older guys is like, hey, hey, 50 cents performing at Dre's, do you want to come? I'm like, but I got shoot around at 9. He's like, yeah, we'll have you in by like 3.
And then you're walking in your hotel at 7.30. My job's on the line.
And you're showing up shoot around like, no, I didn't go. Oh, my God.
I had a teammate that just signed with the team. And we went out to celebrate.
And he literally missed the shoot-around bus like three days in a row after that. Right after he signed.
And they're like, we're kind of regretting signing here right now. He's like, no, I won't do it again.
Yeah, unless you sign me a new contract, then I will do it again. What's the summer league like in terms of pressure? You're under a microscope, right? It's like every possession that you have, every touch that you have could determine millions of dollars right I think you just have to have the mindset of uh giving a fuck but not actually giving a fuck uh you know I think you just got to go out there and be you like if you're out there trying to go out there and do something that you're not able to do then you're not going to be good like my job was to play a little defense and and make threes.
If I was out there trying to dribble the ball 17 times, I'd probably be in Yugoslavia right now. So just stick to the basics, keep the main thing the main thing.
But the toughest part is the outside distractions, which people don't give enough credit for. Most professional athletes can do a good job of handling distractions and getting their shit done young professional athletes that's where it goes that's i would imagine that's a little tough in your early 20s in vegas with a little walking around money forget about it yeah per diem's like 2500 yeah you know what i did 2500 probably lost it within the 30 minutes i got it yeah um on doc rivers because we've talked about Doc on this show a lot.
Does he ever have a voice or is it just like permanently hoarse? Have you ever heard him speak with like a full command of his voice box? Yeah, yeah. I think sometimes it peeks through.
But no, I think that's just how he speaks. That's funny because I've never even really.
Yeah, no, you can't. I can't imagine what his voice.
Because I grew up a Boston kid, so that's the only voice that I know. Minus him yelling at Tyrese Maxey.
I think that's just how his voice is. His voice just rolls out of bed like that.
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All right, I want to talk about Iowa State real quick. So, a couple questions.
First, I read that you lost 30 pounds after your freshman year. How bad were you eating? Oh, dude.
That's a lot of weight. wish i had like a picture of like my cabinet it was like devil dogs ring dings uh mac and cheese and i was eating like chicken fingers for pre-game meal and you and you so you were playing at 260 and you were good yeah i remember we were in west virginia and i was with one of my teammates dustin hoag and there was a scale in the locker room.
And he was like, he got on, he was like, ah, 235. And I was like, ah, let me get on.
It read like 263. And he was like, oh, my God, I got to go tell everybody.
And I was like, no. How were you like, were you winded? I mean, here's the difference between college and the NBA is like, so skilled that I could get away with being out of shape, overweight, and still put up points because I was touching the ball every time.
I was so much more skilled than everybody else. But then when I lost that weight, and obviously your body fluctuates.
Us big guys, it's tough to just keep it there all the time. Then when you slowly start getting to the next level, you're like, damn, like, I can't be overweight.
I actually have to be in shape. I actually have to be conditioned well because those dudes are playing at, like, a whole nother speed, a whole nother athletic level.
And I don't blame my mom or my dad. I blame God for not giving me those athletic talents.
Yeah, yeah. But that must have felt awesome when you lost 30 pounds.
Oh, yeah. I mean, freaking you go from wearing baggy sweatshirts to taking your shirt off all the time.
Yeah. So was it just salads? You just stopped eating junk food? Yeah, I would say.
Was the diet change? I don't know if it was the healthiest. So any nutritionist watching this, it was probably like absolutely no carbs.
It was just like salad and chicken and peppers and onions. Yeah, it wasn't too exciting, but I got the job done.
When you were at the heaviest, though, were you able to break a backboard? I don't even know if I was getting up there to grab the rim, to be honest. Oh, no.
The devil dogs were keeping you down. That's one thing I miss about basketball.
Like, when we were growing up, once every six months, somebody would shatter a backboard or just, like, pull it down onto the ground. And now it's, like, the technology is too advanced.
Yeah, the breakaway rims. Yeah.
Shit. So here's another one.
I like to look up old tweets that I have whenever I have a guest on. got something for me yeah I have one that just says January 30th 2016 it's actually my birthday I said what are you doing Niang so stupid I went and looked it up it was the Texas A&M game at Texas A&M I must have bet on you guys so you fucked me do you remember that game what did you do did you make a big mistake no i think i might have turned the ball over late because i know you probably took the over yeah that too yep yep i was like fuck yeah yeah i was i something about that really pissed me off and then um you did something else i think it might have been the buddy healed like that game where you guys both went off we were going back and forth yeah i think i had you said something mean to me no i said something good i was like i love niang so like that that was a good one all right we're good yeah yeah so we're good on that but i i do have so fred hoiberg was your coach for the first couple years yeah three years for three years um and he obviously he went to the bulls and i just remember being like dude he couldn't beat uab why is he going why why are the bulls so after that just remember being like, dude, he couldn't beat UAB.
Why are the Bulls? Damn. So after that game, were you like, hey, coach, we couldn't even get out of the first round of the tournament.
We just won the Big 12. We beat Kansas in the Big 12.
Yeah, I know. Which never happens.
Did you guys know that he was eyeing something, or could you feel it? Yeah, I mean, so right when we lost, I think he went and had like a heart procedure so he like took off right he wasn't there and i mean it got a little fishy i mean you hear like the stories coming out and then obviously there's like one airport in ames and they're sending out reports like oh a private plane is taking off out of the ames iowa municipal airport it's like oh it's headed to chicago and you kind of had a feeling um I always have thought super highly of Fred obviously I would have been like damn I wish you would have stayed right um but it also made me realize you know the NBA is a different beast because if you would have asked any of us or any of us at Iowa State we would have thought Fred was all world he would have brought in a championship Steve Kerr askr-esque, you know what I mean? And then you kind of get to the NBA, and it's like, it's tougher than it is, you know what I mean? Like dealing with the personality like Jimmy Butler and then all those other guys that were over there. I mean, it's not easy, but I don't think I said, Fred, we couldn't be UAB.
I think it was because I think I might have went like four for 19 that game. Shit.
But you probably tweeted about me then too. Yeah, I probably did.
That was an upset. You fat piece of shit.
Get back on D. Stop eating devil dogs.
I know what you did last night. Did Fred Hoiberg ever show you guys like clips of Animal House or Wedding Crashers? Because he did that with the balls.
That was the moment I think it was all falling apart when it was like. Did he show like the titty part where they're all falling on the bed? I just remember there was a story where the Bulls locker room was fracturing and he was like, watch this clip from Animal House, guys.
This will fix it, which is a very college coach thing. Yeah, that's the Iowa.
Yeah, because college, like a college coach versus an NBA coach, I would imagine a college coach is a lot more, not forgiving, but actually close with you.

Whereas the NBA, is it just strictly business?

Yeah, I mean, unless you're really close with someone, you ain't really hanging out with them.

We show up, do our job, leave.

College, it was like, we're going to grind at 6 a.m., do all these suicides and pointless lifts and go home and drink a couple beers yeah eat together and hang out with chicks how does that work with with the workout schedule i would imagine that with what in the nba yeah yeah in the nba and in college because if you you know if you do like bench press or you do something that like works out your shoulders or triceps you can't shoot around after that right do you have to give yourself like a day after a heavy lift? No, that's what college kids say. I don't know if this is like news, but like we lift before games.
Like sometimes guys will lift before games. See, it seems like it would mess up your whole coordination.
I mean, I think once you just get into like a rhythm, I know what you're saying where you're like, oh, I do like so much on the bench. I probably bench a lot more than you.
So like when I do that, then I step on the court, my shot's all off. That's probably what my issue is.
Do you really believe that? How much do you bench? 135, like 10 times. Yeah.
We've all had that feeling, right? Like if you work out, then your shoulders are fatigued. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is a bench right there. Yeah, there is.
is really i was just warming up on this earlier today really is that 225 right there that's uh 185 how much can you pinch off there 10 12 oh you might have me but no back to your question yeah friggin i think that was like a huge thing for me in like high school and college i'd be like i I'm not going to lift two days before a game or anything like that. And then when you're young and coming up and the strength coach is like, shut up.
You're lifting right now. And then they put you in a game and you make a shot.
You're like, oh, maybe it's not so bad. It's probably just an excuse that we have.
But we don't lift heavy. It's more like getting your muscles moving.
I wouldn't say football is like

fucking scream, yell,

ACDC on and you're just

fucking crushing it. Basketball

is more like

20 pound dumbbells.

Yeah, it's functional.

It's more like flexibility,

right? Yeah, you're toning.

I have one complaint

about you. Well, maybe it's not a complaint.

Maybe you would have been drafted higher if you

had a different nickname though. Oh, you don't like

the Tony, right? Yeah, you're Tony. I have one complaint about you.
Well, maybe it's not a complaint. Maybe you would have been drafted higher if you had a different nickname, though.
Oh, you don't like the minivan? The minivan. That wasn't my nickname until I was already in the NBA.
Okay. So how did you get the nickname, the minivan? It's a great nickname.
I got in against the Brooklyn Nets, and I wasn't really playing much. So I got in, and there was an opportunity.
I had a wide wide open lane and I'm like a one-footed jumper I don't jump off two and dunk it so I tried to go off two and dunk it and like my hands like barely got over the rim and laid it in and Joe Angles the biggest shit talker in the NBA is I love that was one of my teammates and we got in the locker room he was like what the was that and I was like what you didn't like he was like no that was absolutely disgusting like that was terrible and i was like all right all right i was like i'm not you guys like fucking ferrari engines running around i'm more like a minivan i need a couple laps around the block before i get to top speed and then our side underboard was like oh the minivan and the next thing you know, people in UJ didn't even know my name. It was like, minivan.
I'm like, this is fun. That's a perfect nickname for jazz fans.
Yeah, exactly. It's really not so much.
They're like, fuck you and your minivan. I fucking hate minivans.
Yeah, exactly. I never want to ride in your minivan.
Who's the craziest player that you've maybe not even played against, but like seen, you know, maybe maybe you weren't playing, like, guarding him. But, like, the one guy when you've watched him live and you're like, this is just different than everything else.
I mean, there's a couple, right? I would say Brad Beals up there. Really? Yeah.
Okay. How so? Well, so when we were at the Jazz, they were like, Brad Beals, you know, you go over to the scouting report, they're like, Brad Beal's on minute restriction, you know, so he's probably not going to play too much.
We're going to force him right. And because I guess going left, he's better going left.
And he was on minute restriction and he had like 30 points in 25 minutes and he was going whichever way he was. We were forcing him right.
He was going right scoring. We were forcing him left.
He was going left. And then you have the KDs, the LeBrons.
What's a guy that maybe we don't think of? When you see him play, you're like, damn, his game is sick. Well, I mean, I got to play alongside Jordan Clarkson, so that was one where – but that's a pretty good question.
Thank you. Great question.
Thank you. You know, I might say Anthony Edwards.
He's impressed me with his just overall athleticism and then just the way he, like, carries himself like the shit he says. Yeah.
I think he's a great shit talker. Yeah, yeah.
He's got a dog on Twitter that talks shit for him during the games. Did you see the movie Hustle? I haven't yet.
I got to. He was pretty good in that one.
But yeah. No, I'll give Anthony credit.
Can you tell right away if you're watching someone play basketball, you're like, all right, that guy can, within the first minute, okay, that guy is different than everyone else. He's a real baller.
Just like his fluid motion and how they move, yeah, I think you could definitely. You have an eye for talent.
You know how you're doing it. Yeah, I can tell easily.
I think you're okay. You can maybe make a team.
Yeah, there's some things I need to improve on. Actually, speaking of which, if you go on Google, let me pull it up.
By the way, that Oklahoma versus Iowa State game, I was happy because one of your teammates hit a three, a buzzer beater three when you guys were down eight and they covered the spread. Oh, yes, that's right.
Yeah, and I don't know if you guys are ever aware of that stuff, but it matters. It matters.
I had money on it. That's why I wanted it.

Clip that, put that out there.

It doesn't matter, right?

With NIL, guys are getting like freaking a million anyway.

Oh, how pissed are you

that you would have been an NIL beast?

Man.

Because you were one of those guys

who, you know,

by the time your fourth year rolled around,

it was just like,

this fucking guy's still here?

Yeah, because you know,

like every older white male that had a bad body and played basketball like they saw a little bit of themselves in me so that means they would have paid me but yeah no you yeah you stay like you were you were part of that team like there's always those guys in college basketball who are good but because they were good right when they started like freshman year you feel like they've been there for like eight years. Yeah I was like me and Perry Ellis Yeah right exactly so you would have you would have cleaned up on it.
I would have I would have. It would have been whatever.
My mom had me a little too early. Yeah alright so what I was going to say was if you search on Google people also ask there's just a question is George Niang That's literally the question.
And it's just yes. Niang is a below average defender as he currently ranks 203rd out of a possible 251 players according to 538.
But his overall total Raptor, what the fuck is that? That sounds sick. Is tied with Bam Adebayo for 53rd league wide at a very healthy plus 2.9 with a war rating of 9.
Yeah. That ranks third on the team behind Andre Drummond and Joel Embiid.
Shit. That's pretty good.
Dude, you got a sick raptor. You have an awesome raptor.
Fucking fire raptor. You should be the raptor.
Top 60. Yeah.
The minivan raptor. That kind of hurts, though.
Yes, Niang is a below-average defender. Who wrote that? They don't pay me to play defense.

Google wrote it.

It's 538.

No, Google wrote it.

But it's from 538.

That's a nerd.

He's never seen a basketball.

Did you know that your Raptor was so good?

No, I don't even know what a Raptor is.

I have no idea either, but it's Sam.

But if I'm Bam out of bio, I know he makes a lot of money.

Yeah, let's get the total Raptor.

Listen, your agent should be going in, just page one of the pitches, look at his Raptor. Oh my God.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Do you like playing in Philly? I love it, actually. Like the fans? Because some people don't like the Philly fans.
We love the Philly fans. Oh, yeah.
Like you were talking about them earlier, be like, I'll get your fucking minivan out of here. They're mean, but they're funny and they care.
Yeah, I mean, that's the best part. part like why would you want to play for a city that it's just like uh about what you do like they actually really like give a shit and i can i feel like i've i'm able to look myself in the mirror and be like you know what i did suck you know i mean so i i do need to be better so all that shit really doesn't bother me and i think it's hilarious when they get going on like on like twitter or in the stands it's oh it's it's pure comedy every night but like you said i can appreciate it because they do care because it is like that electrician that makes 95k a year that's bringing his son for you know the one two games he's there he wants to see you perform you know what i mean he doesn't want to see you play like shit so it's like or not play ben simmons yeah great valid point yeah it's been almost a year and a half since he's touched the quarter hasn't it yeah but until he plays somewhere else he's going to be a sixer like i still think of him as being a sixer yeah they gave away the number 25 the guy we just signed who i think daniel house oh okay yeah so i so it's a new era yeah yeah update those update those jerseys i also appreciate that you you are a very uh honest uh nba player and you have a little self-deprecation i read the quote where you said the biggest thing for me was being able to use my deceptively slow speed to my advantage.
So you think it is an advantage to be slower than everyone? Absolutely. How so? Because everybody's used to these dudes being so fast and when you change it up and someone goes slow, like, it's tough to go from fast to slow.
You're the human off-speed pitch. Yeah, I was gonna say, these guys are so used to going from stopping to completely full speed,

but if I hit you with a six mile an hour, you're not ready for it.

That's like Tim Wakefield in the knuckleball.

They're used to 95, 95, 95, and then he comes in the next day and is throwing 63 and 61

and moving all over the place.

My body's sliding here.

You really are the minivan.

Your 10 miles per hour must look like 20 miles per hour. When you turn it up it up a little bit yeah i was gonna say it feels like it on my knees that's for sure oh man that's i i like the fact that like slowness can deceptively yeah deceptively slow you're slower than you look slowness kills yeah yeah slowness kills yeah we might need to get that on a t-shirt yes that.
That's not bad. Have you, I know there's a lame question, but I ask every basketball player this.
Have you ever been in the zone? What's that? Like shooting zone. Like where everything you shoot, you hit.
Yeah. One time.
When was it? This one time. Yeah.
I'm obsessed with the idea that a basketball player could just be on the court and everything they shoot just goes in. Well, we were playing Charlotte, I think it was at home, when I was in Utah, and I went like seven for seven from three in like 16 minutes.
And literally, it was like the first time I got in the game, the ball came to me like two, three times, and I shot it. And they went in, they felt good.
And then the third one, it was like someone threw it off to me and I just threw it up there and I'm like, oh fuck. And I like went in and then the next one I was, you know, went in again in the second half.
I ended up having three more threes, but it was like, I was so locked into what I was doing. It didn't matter.
The only problem is, is I didn't touch the ball enough for me to get 30. You know what I mean? Cause if I was zone you're on pace for 30 yeah i just yeah i'm obsessed with the idea that like how cool of a feeling that would be to just be like everything i shoot's going in no matter what well that was the one time i was in the zone in an nba game like when i go to the ymca i'm always in the zone yeah because you guys can you guys just make every shot yeah exactly if i were you i would show up to the y up to the YMC all the time.
All the time. I'd be like, oh, I have a stupid mustache on, like the worst disguise of all time, and I'd just get out there and just put 50 on him.
Yeah. I should dress up as like a female.
Yeah. And do it, really throw them off.
You start just fucking dunking on people. Well, no, you can't dunk, so I guess that part would be.
Yo, man. Sometimes.
But it is crazy. Whenever I see an NBA player in an open gym and they just make like 25 in a row, you're like, oh, yeah.
You're like, he's going to average 30 this year. And they're like, oh, he averages seven.
Do you selectively pick and choose what clips you're going to put on your Instagram? Like, rise and grind. Here's me at Lifetime Fitness.
Yeah. And then the good angle, too.
And then sometimes I ask a couple girls I know what filter they use to make their hips look more. It's a very important part of the NBA offseason.
No, for real, it is, though. It is.
I'll tell you, perception is everything. People don't understand that.
You friggin' look the part. Someone, you know what I mean? And people don't think Instagram does anything.
But if you look the part, people think you're it. You'll probably get paid a little more than someone who's not looking the part.
yeah so in the off season do you have do you have like tweet alerts on for woge and shams and all those guys yeah for sure so i just actually got one and it's crazy that you're here because the sixers are very close to signing mitchell donovan mitchell that'd be impossible because he's already under contract trading for him oh am i going back to utah no no they haven't they haven't said who's going to be dangled out there. You're going to cut.
But the fact that Harden didn't take... Hey, can I get that spot in the middle right there with the bench press? The fact Harden didn't take the max means you guys can get her in the max guy.
And so it looks like Mitchell might be here. All right, Adrian Wojnowski, pipe down over there.
I'm just making all this up right now. This is all completely false.
That would be, yeah. Because, I mean, that does have to, when you see everyone moving around.
Oh, man, that's like, especially like draft night, you're calling your agent like, hey, do you think I'll be good? And they hit you with a line like, I think you'll be good, but you know how this business works. It's just like, that's pretty much translation, you're fucked.
Yeah, you're fucked. Have you ever been ever been in a Woj bomb honestly when I got cut from the Pacers Woj said you know like George has been waived from George Nyang has been waived from the Pacers and spelled my name wrong oh I was like damn I really am a buster oh no that's bulletin board material though yeah that is like he knows that there's an S on there now.
Yeah, and he does. And I told him that it pissed me off.
So you also were in Utah when Rudy Gobert gave everyone COVID. Was that awkward? That was.
Actually, at the time, because we all didn't know what was coming, I think we defended the move. We're like, that's fucking funny that he touched all the microphones honestly it now that i think about it it was a boss move but to say it back then was like oh it was bad you were like bro you did that and you had yeah are you fucking nuts that was the day that sports just stopped yeah dude the world shut down like who would have ever thought that like i remember telling someone i was like there'll never be a day when sports stops like you know i mean like and then next thing you know it's like i have a buddy that gambles that you know hangs out with me and he was like betting on like ukrainian soccer oh yeah back it was like that's the only sports i wanted literally was like yeah shut down but back to the rudy gobert thing that was uh that was funny because uh i ended up going to have dinner at his house the night after we or the night of we played Toronto at home and I was eating dinner with him after the game and we were talking about him coming in before we flew out to Oklahoma City and he freaking he comes in late and was like yeah I wasn't really feeling that well that's why late.
Mind you, literally two days before, we had someone from the CDC come and be like, if you're not feeling well, don't come in. Call someone.
So he comes in, and he's on the plane, and he's sweating. Oh, no.
And I think all of us thought you could have a common cold there. Yeah, no one knew.
Yeah. And then so we get down to OKC, and someone was like, yeah, we're going to go up there and see what Rudy has.
He's been under the weather. And they test him, and the next day he doesn't show up for shoot-around.
And Jordan Clarkson's running around shoot-around and be like, Rudy got that shit, yo. He got that shit.
I know he got that shit. So then we were getting ready to go to the game, and he's not there.

And literally it was like men in black.

We're getting ready for tip-off.

They do the starting lineups, and like five guys in suits run on the court.

And it's like, what the fuck?

That was crazy, crazy night.

And then they told us, and I was like, what the hell just happened?

And then I figured we were going to get back in two weeks.

Everybody was like, all right, two-week hiatus.

We'll be back. What was it, like three months later in the whole bubble? Yeah.
Let me tell you, the bubble. Did it suck? I mean, they did a great job, but that was a long time to be around a lot of dudes.
I always thought it would be fun, but you were just stuck in a hotel room, so I guess that wouldn't be fun. I mean, you did the same five activities, the pool dining hall golf so that means correct me if i'm wrong like the first three days was like this is awesome yeah and then after like a week you're like wait yeah this sucks no i mean after a while after i would probably say after like two three weeks it was uh it was a ground i was like i'm good yeah well it's a mickey mouse bubble anyway anyone who won in that bubble doesn't count if I won a ring would you say that to my face if you were on the Bron James team yes if you won a ring on the Jazz that year no we would not say that that was the hardest championship ever what you guys did was incredible you guys are better than Stockton and Malone but the nation needed that we needed a bubble tournament.
We needed that. We needed a bubble tournament at that point.
Yeah, thank you for your service. You've done an enormous service to this country.
We're here for you guys. But how many shots were guys making back then, huh? It was awesome.
Like the first couple days when he's like, wait, this is like the greatest shooting gym ever? That was so sick. Oh, my God.
Guys couldn't miss. I wish I was in a contract here.
Just bubble, yeah. Yeah.
When you look back at what Rudy did, though, he might have saved thousands of lives by being the first person to have coronavirus publicly and to look like he was spreading it around. They shut down the league.
They shut down all fans coming into games. Probably saved maybe even even more maybe tens of thousands of lives

I don't know

you can spin zone it that way

if you spin it like that

for my guy Rudy I'll say thank you Rudy for saving

saving tens of thousands of lives

alright so I had one last question for you George

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I'm not going to do that to you. I don't even really know what happened there.
I'm not going to do that to you. It's not important.
It's all in the past. My real question was, you like that, right? Oh, my God.
By the way, kind of a pussy move from Hank. He talks a lot of shit about Philly, and he's just not here right now.
Really? Oh, my God. Then I got to be Team Mush.
Yeah, he's number one Team Mush. Marty, you know I got you, bro.
I'm on your podcast next. Eight black, right? Eight black on this gambling.
So, no, when you got drafted by the Pacers, you got drafted by Larry Bird. Yeah.
And he gave you a compliment. Was that the coolest moment of your life? As a Boston kid? Like, you got Larry Bird, yeah, to say he's good.
Yeah, no, that was the greatest thing that could probably ever happen to me up to date then. And then he cut you.
Yeah. Life goes on, right? Why you always got to look at the negative shit? No, but that was awesome.
That was great. And, you know, the year that I had there, I actually learned a lot from him.
And he's a no bullshit type of guy. If he doesn't have anything to say to you, he will walk straight past you.
Yeah. You know what I mean? But when he does have something to say, I think it's meaningful and it's helpful.
And he was great to me and always has been. and I'll always be thankful for my time in Indiana and that he drafted me because he didn't have to do that,

that's for sure.

So I appreciate him.

That's awesome.

So what's next for this year?

What are your goals for this year?

Win a championship.

Meet Lenny Balls?

Met him enough.

In the same T-shirt, everything. He's just wearing a shirt.
Yeah, facts. No, I think for me it was just to continue to grow and take my game to a whole new level.
Obviously, right now in Philadelphia, we're trying to win a championship now. So obviously making sure that I do my part to make sure that all of my eggs are in a row to make sure that we can win a championship and be effective for this team and like I said have another great year this year in Philly was huge for me and I took a big leap in my career so to have that moving forward would be huge for me.
That's awesome. Yeah, we're fans now.
Hell yeah. Yeah, hell yeah.
Yang Gang, yes. Yes, Niang Gang.
Minivan. That's Niang Gang.
Niang Gang's good. You like that? Can I get you a t-shirt with that on the front and minivan on the back? Yes.
We'll put Niang Gang on a minivan. That's what we got to do.
You guys are up to some sick shit. I did a complete 180 on the minivan nickname.
After you explained it, it's probably the best nickname in the NBA. It's here to stay.
And the fact that you admittedly are deceptively slow, that's a minivan. But it gets you places.
Know thyself. Also, minivans are great.
They've got DVD players and shit in them. You've got probably not even DVDs anymore.
It's probably next level. It's comfort for the whole family.
They get the job done. They'll get you there at 65 miles an hour.
Yes, exactly. All right, well, thanks so much, George.
Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys.
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Moved in Monday. Moving sucks.
Everyone knows that. Never fun.
Took all day.

Got everything in the apartment.

Hadn't unboxed anything.

Just went to sleep after it all got in.

Tuesday comes, we were here super late because of the All-Star game.

So, you know, we got home at, like, midnight, maybe 1 o'clock.

No big deal.

We grind.

Yeah, didn't move anything.

But obviously, like, I was here for 14 hours.

I wasn't about to go home and unbox and put stuff away.

Tuesday night.

Wednesday.

And also, with that being said, I also don't know where anything is.

I'm waking up in the morning.

I'm just trying to do my thing.

Call, turn the heat on.

Wait.

Turn the hot water on.

It didn't get turned on, so I didn't shower for two days.

And it was hot, yeah.

Did we know that?

No.

I knew.

I could tell.

Yeah.

No, you don't.

I don't smell.

And trying to find stuff.

That's why I'm wearing flip-flops in New York City because I just can't find them.

I don't know where my socks are.

I don't feel like going through the process of figuring where they are.

So I just throw my flip-flops, but then I'm getting looks at why are you wearing flip-flops in New York City,

which is a valid criticism, but I'm doing it. And you're corporate,'re wearing flip flops right it's summer whatever it's such a corporate move to have the boss be like you guys have to look at my feet all day no the corporate people are fucking what's the Panthers owner guy if I was really corporate if I was really corporate I would be the old one Jerry Richardson big Asian for this whole year yeah Hank's making everyone go fucking flip flops Tuesday so he can can look at Chick's feet.
Let me see them toes. Not a feet guy.
Anyway, Wednesday, I'm like, all right, finally. Finally.
It is a power thing, I think. We'll be done with work around five.
I can go home, move all my shit in, get ready to go. I take the train home, get off the path.
And sometimes I fell asleep for literally, we got stuck in the tunnel.

I dozed off for maybe three minutes.

But we finally get there.

I kind of wake up.

Get up.

Get off the train.

Check my pockets.

Realize I don't know where my keys are.

I sprint back downstairs.

As I'm sprinting back downstairs, the train's pulling away.

So they might have fallen out of my pocket on the train, but I don't know that.

So I go back to the office. Get back on the train train did you take a nap on the way back nope i was at this point i'm wide awake like panic like oh my god this is gonna this is gonna suck because it was it was my keys and my spare keys both on the same set i just hadn't even taken them off yet get back to the office retrace all my steps nowhere to be found multiple conference rooms multiple meetings you guys know what i have to do on a day-to-day basis i'm just everywhere all at once i'm checking everywhere i'm checking the studio checking by your desk checking the pile checking all the conference rooms we were in uh the place next door doing a commercial shoot i had to get the keys for that i check in there not in there.
Realize I was sitting at the rundown chair. So I go over there.
The rundown chairs had gotten moved into shoegasm. So I had to go back into shoegasm.
I'm fucking. And I'm sweating my balls off at this point.
But you got flip flops on. Yeah, I do have flip flops on.
No, I was wearing actual shoes yesterday. Oh, nice.
I'm like rustling around in the chair. I can hear keys, but they're like...
Where did the flip-flops come back into the story? I just... Don't worry about it.
Well, I thought he was sweating. I was like, well, you couldn't have been sweating that bad.
You had flip-flops on. No, I was sweating my dick off.
The flip-flops, that was just a little bit of flavor for the story. Well, it was just like, yeah, I just didn't...
I don't know where... He's wearing them right now.
Yeah. Do you use the bottle opener on the bottom after walking around manhattan um i'm rustling around in this in this fucking recliner i can hear keys i can hear keys i'm like they're in there but they're like the chair is broken they've fallen underneath and i'm like it's it's it's literally just a struggle like i'm what time is this this is like seven o'clock at this point seven thirty finally i finally get the keys.
They're a set of keys. They're not my keys.
And I literally, like, it was in chugasm. I was just like, fuck! And just, like, threw the keys at the wall.
Whose keys were there? I don't know. I picked them up.
I brought them. I gave them security.
But clearly no one is worried about them. They're just a set of two keys.
Then I had to call my landlord, which is awkward, being like, hey, I just moved moved in I fucking lost my keys I'm an absolute joke he sets me up with a realtor who has an extra set of keys I go to meet him gets the keys they're only the keys for my door but not my front door so I then had to go sit outside my apartment building waiting for someone to come thinking it was going to not take long. It took an hour and a half.

What?

I was sitting there just watching PFT's

Ghost of Manhattan stream.

I told him, I was like,

I might stream after you.

I wasn't even in my apartment

by the time he was finished.

So I left the office at 4.30.

I got in my apartment at 9.30.

Oh my God.

That sucks.

That's a bad night.

Did you have to pay for the spare keys?

I have to go meet my other. Am I going to get billed for that? Yeah, probably.
Probably going to get evicted. I have to go meet my landlord to get the front door keys, and I have to clone those.
And then hopefully never lose them. Clone them? So this is your introduction to your landlord.
What else do you call them? Copy them? Yeah, you make a copy of your key. Are not synonyms? Yeah, you clone them I like it That's a synomic word No one's ever thought that you were like a college educated guy Yeah, world renowned educated human being Clone works It's just I've never heard anyone say I gotta go clone my keys No, I like it That's what I have to do It's just funny I just funny.
I have one, and I have to make the exact same. Correct.
And have two. Yeah.
You clone. You gotta use the DNA from the first and replicate it.
Is that why you called me twice? I was calling you because I called because I was at the office fucking rustling through the chair. He just wanted to yell at you.
No, no, no. The guy was like, all right, the guy has your key, but he wants to meet in 10 minutes.

And I was like,

I'm fucking 30 minutes away,

so I was going to call Billy to go meet him,

but he didn't answer.

That is a day that will,

like,

beat you up for a while.

But I will say this.

I finally get in my apartment.

I'm like,

I swear to fucking God,

if this hot water's not working still,

I'm going to cry.

It worked,

and I was able to get

a nice hot shower,

and that didn't turn my mood around. I didn't, and then I just played Call of of Duty I didn't move a single thing in so I still haven't moved anything in in four days did you have any other keys on that keychain? no that would have been bad if it was your car key no I hadn't even gotten to that point yet that's nice little shout out to bird dogs zipper the pants.
Yeah. Well, now I'm going to start putting them in my thing.

First thing in the morning.

That's where they go.

Don't take them out to the end of the day.

I was debating as I was sitting outside.

I was like, I did meet a woman that lives in my building the other day.

Good shot.

Doesn't matter.

Oh, sounds like she was.

No, it's not.

You know, let's not do that, big guy.

Well, you definitely wouldn't have brought her up.

No, no.

I would bring her up.

Just give us the cup size.

If it was a man, I would have brought him up because I just met her as I was walking in. I was like, hey, nice to meet you, blah, blah, blah.
She told me what apartment. She asked me what apartment I was in.
I asked her what apartment she was in. And in my head, I was like, should I just buzz her apartment and be like, can you let me in the front door? Yeah.
That's too much for pussy to do it. I'm the guy who hit on you yesterday.
No, not that. Yeah, well, yeah.
I didn't want to be like a weirdo and be like, hey, let me in. Yeah, right.
So I just waited. That's brutal, dude.
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah.
Finally, someone ordered delivery. That's, you know, what's really terrible is when you go home at the end of the night.
It got to the point where I was guessing the, there was a pin for a delivery pin and I just started guessing numbers. I was like, maybe I was just fucking.
Oh my god. Damn, Hank.
I don't know how to compete with that. No, that's brutal.
My Mount Rushmore is I got home from work a couple nights ago, and my key didn't work. What, your Mount Rushmore? Oh, sorry, my Fire Fest.
I got home from work a couple nights ago, and my key didn't work. I brought the wrong set of keys home.
But fortunately- What kind of keys? The door was unlocked anyway, so I just went in. What kind of keys? I threw them away.
They're in the studio. I guess I picked up the wrong set.
My Mount Rushmore's, I thought I lost my keys, but they were actually just in my bird dog pants. Oh, man.
You must have been stressed out. Are you okay? I was for a minute, and I was like, nope, they're right here.
Boom. No, my Mount Rushmore, thank you.
Shout out, Sling. What? My Mount Rushmore, I don't.
God damn it. He got me.
My Firefest. Shout out Sling.
I tweeted this, but I just basically have to go through like the worst television shows with my son because he just hops around. I'm now stuck on this show called Super Wings.
I want to just start a support group for anyone out there. Sling does have it for free, which is great.
If you have a Sling subscription. It's a show about talking planes yeah and they have the pft's interested the tagline is always on time every time and now my son repeats that and i'm like no this is not how airlines work like they're never on time who finances this yeah it's fucked up because he's just walking around it is i will say the one saving grace is it's very funny because like the names are regular names there's like a airplane named paul there's one named donnie and it's just funny to hear my son be like yeah that's donnie um but someone in in the faa or something is funding this and i i'm on to them because they're basically getting three-year-olds to be like yeah planes are always on time this sounds like Mayor Pete propaganda it's fucked up Department of Transportation trying to get at you and he says like he yells out the catchphrase as the show starts and I'm like what the fuck are we watching always on time and I hate airlines and they're just yeah they got me you gotta start teaching them to say that's cap when they say always on time.
Yeah. I should just give him a Twitter.
Well, no. Darren Revelle has his Twitter account.
So never mind. I was going to say he could just start tweeting at planes.
But yeah, he's locked that up. I was fucking with Hank.
My real fire fest. Mount Rushmore.
My real Mount Rushmore fire fest for this week. I was walking to Starbucks the other morning and mystery water got me.
You know that Starbucks, dude. Yeah.
Yeah. No, no.
It's actually like it's a mystery water factory. It's hell getting inside.
Correct. You walk through the door and it got me.
I was wearing my sunglasses. It dropped right between my eyes.
Yep. In between my sunglasses, my face hit the bridge of my nose and then just splattered everywhere like a kill room in Dexter.
My face was just fucked up with high-velocity mystery water spatter.

That is...

You need an umbrella to go in and out of that Starbucks.

It's the worst.

It's terrible.

Mystery water city in New York is awful.

I got smoked by it the other day.

So now I have monkey pox.

Yeah.

There is a huge puddle, though, right there.

Yeah, all the mystery water.

I know, so I can kind of...

Well, it's probably an air conditioning unit above it, but still, it's gross. To just get jizzed on? Nothing worse than catching that mystery water.
Greatest city in the world. Yep.
So this fire fest is from over suspension. I had a black eye for about...
You had a black eye? Eye. Black eye.
A Winston eye or an eye? No, black eye. Like my eye.
Oh, okay. for about a black guy i black guy you're talking about your buddy no black eye like my eye oh okay uh for about three weeks and uh just everyone's a black guy everyone uh just assumes the worst uh when you have a black eye i got playing basketball and uh i definitely assumed the worst yeah well it's fair yeah can we talk about your shaved eyebrow now that that's oh yeah that was fucked up yeah i had a shit so i had to get a tattoo and i shaved my eyebrow and i still didn't win the game show but shout out you the hardest i've ever laughed is when you called me after and you're like you have to pay for the tattoo removal and i just laughed so hard on it and also when you uh joined a zoom call one one time with PMT and forgot to fill in your eyebrow.

Oh, yeah.

Dude, I had to fill in my eyebrow like every day.

But you forgot one time.

And we were Zooming in late and I just showered because I got home and it was a post game or something.

And then I was like, I totally forgot.

Yeah, you had a black eye and an ankle brace on for a little bit there.

Yeah, I twisted my ankle.

Did you ever learn? No, well, you're gonna learn no well you're gonna learn this billy like it's i playing basketball is fun i i miss playing pickup like all the time but you definitely get i guess barstool is not like this case because it's barstool but i remember the first time i like twisted my ankle as an adult playing softball and had to wear an ankle brace. And I was like, do I have to stop playing this? Because you can't just, like, show up to an office job with injuries.
It's a weird thing to do. Not here.
Again, not here. I just saw your black guy and I was like, oh, Billy, like, he probably ran into a black guy and they made out.
Like, I don't know. Like, what happened? But, yeah, like, when you have an injury in an office setting it's very awkward i used to have injuries constantly when i was in austin because i was still playing rugby at the time yeah and so i would come in with like my arm in a sling one week and as a salesperson it's like the worst possible thing because some they look at you they're like what the i don't trust this guy with my money right whatsoever everyone looks at you like what is this guy getting into yeah.
Or it could be that you're Edward Norton from Fight Club, who's also the same person as Brad Pitt. That's badass.
And you just get fucked up because you're in a fight club every day. Right.
But yeah, Billy, you kind of looked cool. When you had the ankle brace as well.
The ankle brace was embarrassing. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like you look like, because you can't get a, because there's no like athletic trainer to go to anymore.
So you't get a boot you just have to like do what you can at cbs and yeah we should get a training room here though yeah fun fact with ankle braces you should really

only wear it for like a day yeah then it then it weakens your ankle exactly and that's the hard way

it turns out ice is bad i'm actually gonna write a blog on that there's tons ice and cold is

terrible for healing no no i it shuts down your inflammatory response which actually is healing it

Thank you. that there's tons ice and cold is terrible for healing no no i it shuts down your inflammatory response which actually is healing it no but it helps with the pain and swelling but compression is better than ice yeah but ice isn't bad ice but like it's bad for recovery but like instantly after you injure yourself ice is not bad what do you mean by recovery so So like it shuts down your circulation and circulation helps the healing.
I was talking to Will Compton about it and I then went on a whole rabbit hole like trying to figure out what he was saying because he was just telling me ice is bad and I couldn't really get what he was saying. So then I had your looks on your faces, looked it up.
It's actually really fascinating. So ice is bad for muscle gaining gaining and like cold plunges are kind of good but it's not then you get you what about the acronym rice yeah rice is bullshit yeah rest ice compression elevation it should just be rce okay rce yeah all right i i look forward to that blog um you can sway me on that i you could definitely sway me on that.
I mean, that's one of those things that you just learn that as like a kid when you get injured. And then someday, yeah, maybe Big Ice is trying to fucking keep us down.
Jake. Yeah.
So mine also has to do with keys. Coincidentally enough, this is real.
You did a key bump for the first time? Yeah. I was waiting for the elevator

Took the keys out at my apartment, falls through the elevator slit. Oh, no.
And I had to clone them from our roommates. It was all fine.
That's great. What are the odds, right? That is like everyone thinks about it.
It never happens. Holy fuck.
I think the only way that's worse is if it's your phone. Is that? I've heard of it.
I've heard of it happening. I've heard of people with AirPods.
The only way it could be worse is if it was your great-grandfather and he was trying to get the keys and the elevator fell on his head. That's true.
RIP. Yeah, so that was crazy.
Also, one more plug. Big news.
Oh, yes. Fuck.
We should have said this from the top.

PLL, one of the games, 5 o'clock, has been moved to ESPN2.

We're back on ESPN.

Yeah, ESPN, yes.

Jake is back on ESPN2.

So Saturday night, you got to watch at 5 o'clock.

And 7.30 ESPN+.

ESPN+.

I wish you guys had been in the room when it was just me, memes, and Jake.

And memes and I were just like, we were evil geniuses. We're like, oh, ESPN Plus, I wish you guys had been in the room when it was just me, Memes, and Jake.
And Memes and I were just like, we were evil geniuses. We're like, oh, ESPN 2? That's going to be a lot easier to make clips of.
And we just both started laughing like, yeah, we're going to clip all of this. So I'm thankful for this opportunity.
And Jake got super nervous. Please tune in.
ESPN 2, 5 o'clock. Very easy.
ESPN Plus, 730. We have Redwoods Atlas on ESPN 2.
And then Whips, Chaos on ESPN Plus. Are you nervous? A little bit.
We have to figure out. I'm excited.
I'll be ready. We have to figure out some little small Easter egg that we can put in for the AWLs who will be watching.
How about we get, no, whoever's playing really well. Yeah.
At any point in the game, you'd be like, man, if we could clone this guy and have a team full of him yes yeah okay get a clone in there can you also can you give away your necktie at the end of the game no this to a kid yeah no yeah come on i'm not gonna step on gymnasts's toes i don't think jimnance is gonna watch yeah no he'll you never know watch. You never know.
Try to Jersey swap. That was on our list too.
What? Toast. Toast.
Oh, yeah. Jim Nance.
Shout out Jim Nance. Jersey swap with whoever you're announcing with after the broadcast, but while still on air.
Oh, that'd be cool. I'll just focus on the broadcast, but I'm excited.
I'm excited too. It'll be fun.
Please tune in. I'm going to watch it.
I'm going to clip it. Yeah.
We're going to hear him say clone. I want to see the clips of you saying clone.
You should work it in easily. That's easy.
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that.
If you're going to clone this guy. Yeah.
What's up, clones? Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm excited. It'll be fun.
Okay. Great show.
Reminder. Wednesday, we got the takeies.
Get excited. Monday, we have one of our longest interviews ever.
Great interview with Andrew Schultz, comedian. Really, really fun.
And I hope everyone has a great weekend. Make sure you watch Jake on Saturday.
Also, Patty the Batty and Molly the Meatball are both fighting. So get excited for that.
Those are our people. We're our family.
Our family. All right.
My family.

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What did you say, Hank?

17?

18 and 99 are out.

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