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Today is... my take presented by barstool sports welcome to part of my take presented by coars light today is monday july 18th and cameron smith is your open championship champion the aussie with

the mullet and mustache what a tournament what a back nine i'm trying to say nice things right now

because i had rory and everyone knows i had rory but what a tournament what a back nine. I'm trying to say nice things right now because I had Rory and everyone knows I had Rory, but what a tournament.
What a back nine. There it is.
It was incredible. Cam's the first Cameron to ever win anything.
As far as I'm concerned, I can't think of another winner. That's a Cameron.
Um, instead of subjecting you guys to my terrible Australian accent, I decided to actually just reach out to Cam Smith directly. so here's a little quote from cam smith exclusive to part of my take on winning the open championship wow thanks mate on behalf of my criminal ancestors who were kicked off this land hundreds of years ago i'd like to humbly take this opportunity to tell the queen of england to suck my dick i hope her old ass sees this and has a heart attack me pft and delhi are gonna rent a winnebago and travel the world slamming cause lights and searching for treasure aussie aussie aussie thanks pardon my take love you guys and all the awls out there incredible like so well said what a moment i did when he said that he wanted to figure out how many beers fit in the claret jug i was watching that live being like i just want to hear p repeat that back to us.
How many beers fit inside this tremendous trophy right now? I reckon you could get maybe 13, 14, ice cold, cool, lights. Fantastic.
Dude, he was insane. That was an insane back nine.
He shot a 30. He just, every putt was either in or like, you know, the course, can we just talk about that course for a second? The fact that there are two, their shared greens just broke my brain for the entire afternoon.
Like even the announcers at some points, they're like, oh, well, he's shooting it here. But that you see that flag over there, that's the 13th hole or something.
What the fuck is this? It's weird. And sometimes if you hit a shot like closer to the other hole you end up better than if you hit a straight shot that comes up like a little bit short on a par four to the hole that you're supposed to be shooting at it's a bizarre course and it's crazy because watching on tv you'll see a player hit a shot that'll like run onto the green and it looks great but then the announcers are like oh he is in deep hell that poor twat and then every shot that that looks like it's shit the announcers are like oh poetic heroic shot it's like wait i don't i do not understand lynx golf i love having it once a year on tv so i can it will do like what you said it'll break your brain and it'll be interesting to watch but yeah it's tough it's tough for us even as dimple heads as we are it's tough for us to wrap our heads around this course they would put shots like 30 feet away from the pin and the announcer would be like that's a terrible spot he's got six mounds that he has to go over it's like what the fuck and then the green like we said on friday i know it's not fact because it's obviously a historic golf course and very difficult.

But the fact that some of these greens are like 100 yards long and everything is on there, like I want to play there because everything's on.

I know that everything's not on because you can hit it and it could be like you have to chip from, you know, you're on the green, but you have to still chip or you have to put it like 200 feet.

But still, everything is on. The whole course makes no sense.
It was awesome to watch. Great fucking theater.
And Rory, you broke my heart. I may never get over this one.
I actually think it's a great equalizer of a course. I think that if guys like me and you played it against guys that are like, I don't know, Jake and Hank's level of golf, I think the scores would be closer together than they would at a normal golf course in the United States where you have to hit the right fairway and have to hit clean approach shots.
Because it's crazy. On the 17th hole, when Cam Smith hit his drive, and as we know from talking to Shane Bacon, he should have hit it onto the 18th tee box and then chipped it over, but he didn't.
He hit it, and he was putting a second shot. And the announcers were like, that is a terrible drive.
And he was putting, he was putting two on a par four. And they're like, oh, he's, yeah, he's fucked on this one.
And then he hit a great putt to within two feet. At that point, it was kind of his tournament to lose.
I do feel bad for Rory because it felt like this was Rory's moment. It felt like everything was setting up given his history at that course,

and it's probably his last time being able to be truly competitive at St. Andrews.

No.

No.

At St. Andrews.

No.

He's 33.

How often do they play there?

It's like every four years or something.

It's every five years.

Every five years.

No, you're thinking Tiger.

You're thinking Tiger.

No, with Rory, he's thinking tiger no with rory he's

gonna be 38 and he's gonna be slightly out of his prime this was the last tournament yes this was the last open at st andrews for rory in his prime i think he'll be i think he will absolutely be competitive at 38 as a golfer golfers golf forever they're fucking they're ageless let's make a bet right now rory at st andrews i don't i don't think in 2027 i'm putting him he's not going to finish in the top five i mean that top five is very like competitive like what is competitive though like he can top 10 okay i mean but 38 is not out of his like he still will be very good in five years tiger is done that was it for tiger and we did have like the journal it was it was so set up for rory not only like the fact that he's been the darling of trying to save golf and being the most outspoken guy against live and then it's you know at saint andrews i don't know if you guys saw the story journalists were just coming

everywhere when when this story was written how Tiger when he was walking up 18 for the last time

Rory was on one and he tipped his cap to him and Tiger saw and they mentioned it after Tiger was

like yeah that was a great moment like that that was a moment if Rory had gone on to win the

tournament talk about passing the torch like that would have been a journalist wet dream for Rory

Thank you. That was a moment if Rory had gone on to win the tournament.
Talk about passing the torch. That would have been a journalist's wet dream for Rory to win that tournament,

and he couldn't hit a fucking putt.

He couldn't hit a putt.

All he had to do was hit a putt, and he couldn't hit a putt.

And I'm not saying that I could hit those putts,

but I could have hit those putts, and he couldn't.

It's not just him missing putts.

Cam Smith just couldn't.

He couldn't miss.

He was locked in. I think he had nine fewer putts.
or as Azinger said right after it was over he's like I think Azinger said like uh Cam Smith had yeah like 20 fewer putts than Roy did it's like wait that's that's just impossible there's no chance that that stat is true he just he misread the one there was the stat though that that popped up that was like total yardage of made putts and Cam Smith was at like 90 or it might've been feet, whatever feet, probably I'm thinking football, football's back. It was like 90 feet.
And Rory was at like 27, which just tells you everything. Cam Smith was making the 25 foot putts and Rory was just two putting everything and having to get within five feet to then make it.
And it just, you're right. Cam Smith, like as much as you want to say it was a meltdown from Rory, it really wasn't.
Like he definitely could have made some putts to keep him. He had the lead.
He could have made some putts. Cam Smith just played out of his fucking mind.
Rory didn't even finish second. Yeah.
So that's what's crazy. On the 18th hole, Rory put his first shot, what was it, like 20 yards short, and he had to try to chip up and down and get it in to force a playoff.
But because he went after the pin, he didn't make his putt after that because he was trying to sink his chip. And that fact alone cost him like, I think, $300,000.
Whereas if he had just like put it close on a second instead of going for the win, I mean, obviously when you're Rory, you've rory you've made a lot of money already so you don't you're not thinking about that calculus of the two hundred thousand dollars um but the fact remains like second place was 1.5 million third place was nine point uh 933 000 it's actually pft the way to properly say it now in golf terminology rory just was $300,000 closer to signing with the live tour because all that money missed means that someday he might go and golf in Saudi Arabia. What were you going to say, Hank? You had Rory as well, which I'm now back-to-back majors where I had the second plate.
Well, I guess he didn't finish second. The guy who felt like he was going to win it all, and it all fell apart.
I also had – I got to stop watching golf with my family because it's just like I had Paw Patrol on one TV, golf on the other, trying to sweat it out. Like just – it was just a disaster, disaster in my household again as Rory couldn't put together a putt.
But what were you going to say, Hank? I was going to say, Cam Smith obviously played out of his mind. But if you're Rory and you're leading the open and the back nine, you only have one birdie.
Cam Smith has six. If he just has two more birdies, he at least forces a playoff.
He didn't necessarily choke, but he didn't deserve to win. He didn't play the back nine like a champion.
I like that, Hank. That's a great take.
He didn't deserve to win. Yeah, it should have been at least a playoff.
You go one for nine birdies and Cam Smith gets six. Two more birdies from Rory and we're in a playoff.
Rory played too comfortably. He was up three shots, I think, at 10.
And then he thought, okay, all I have to do is fairways and greens, like in 10 Cup. And he didn't count on Cam Smith just sinking anything within 50 feet and they started doing the the rory package on the nbc where they started playing the rory clips from when he was hitting you know golf balls into his mom's washing machine when he was 11 years old they did the whole thing they were like this is his moment this is his crowding achievement what a what a moment for rory's playing the best golf uh of his life as heard first by part of my take.
And it was his tournament. And then Cam Smith, who is – the problem is Cam Smith is objectively a cool guy.
He's got a mullet. He's Australian.
He looks like an average Joe. And he went out there and played his balls off.
So as much as I want to be mad about it, he was that phenomenal that I had to sit back and be like, holy fuck, this guy cannot miss. Do you think that the fact that Rory is named Rory makes him more likable? Because I do think that that's a very sympathetic first name.
You can't hate a guy named Rory. Yeah, and the accent.
I think accents always just soften everything. The minute someone speaks and they have an accent, you're like, oh, that guy's cool out with him yeah i i do love everything about cam smith his hair his shitty mustache his height his australian accent like in my wildest dreams i've been going as cam smith for halloween every day of my life he's a he's a cool guy and it's it was cool to see him when i don't like cam young if we're going to power rank our Cams, Cam Smith won Cam Young.
Distant, distant second. Way to stay relevant, baseball.
He's sponsored by Major League Baseball. I love that.
It's crazy. I love that.
It's crazy. I can't get enough of it.
Yeah. And he, yeah, the Cams, one and two.
I was like, I fucking hate all Camerons. And then someone pointed out, yeah, you do, because they just showed a picture of Duke's court.
And like yep i didn't even i didn't even put that into my thought like i didn't even put that in my brain but yes i do hate all camerons so fuck all camerons for the rest of the life of my life and their life we're gonna say hank i also like how they they give out a silver medal to the top amateur but like no gold medal or bronze medal like they just throw that in there oh dude yeah that guy you just get the silver medal but but that would imply that there's like a gold or bronze but it's just like nope that that italian who won the low amateur i love saying amateur um and his italian dad he's italian and he was just crying and he was just like fist pumping he's just like that's my son and he was crying it was such a great moment it's like yeah dude that is your son way to go like that's just fucking sports right there i love it that's that's the borelli household right there for you yeah italian and tears that's what they do so because we have a big j on the show jake i'd like you to chime in how much did the um sports journalism world lose today by not having the Rory story. And like I said, I read the article.
It was so funny that they did a whole article solely about Rory tipping his cap to Tiger as Tiger walked up on the 18th. And like that, they lost.
The journalists lost today. Not as much as me and Hank, but journalists lost.
Yeah, that definitely would have been nice. And I think journalists would have taken the opportunity to as well be like, look, you can still win a major and not go to live and still be successful.
So screw you guys who went to live because they always just like emphasize doing what is quote unquote, the right thing to do. So that was a missed opportunity for them as well well under the live rules rory would have won that tournament after 54 holes that's true and we would kind of cut out well he would have tied out to play on that tour yeah he wouldn't have gotten cut and then he would have won the tournament yeah there's no cuts i also love i it's got to suck so bad to be the victor hovland of the world.
I feel like that happens a lot in majors where there's like two guys, you know, the final pairing and one of them just like we didn't even remember that he was he was tied for the lead going into the final round at the open because he just like he wasn't even a thought. He I thought about him for the first three holes and then it was like, oh, yeah, that guy.
I forgot the moment was definitely too big for him he's one of those guys that when he gets on the green he walks all the way up to the hole and then stands with both of his feet on either side of the hole and just just feels the slope with his body for a little bit that's the only thing i'll ever remember about victor where i even victor hovland hovland yeah victor hovvie the um the shot of the tournament that almost was we almost got uh an albatross or a super eagle I don't know which one you want to call it double eagle I like calling it a super eagle there was a shot that just bounced off off the pin and would have been a two on a par five which is that's the rarest shot in golf and that would would have stolen the show right there. Yeah, it would have.

There was also a guy who just had an eagle in.

I assume it was for presentation or something, but they showed a shot of the crowd right after Cam won.

And he was just standing there with an eagle on his arm.

I was like, that's pretty fucking cool.

Like that's, that's one of those ones that I assume that it's for the show,

but also Scotland is just a totally different world where it might've just been like, bring your own Eagle. Like if you have an Eagle, you're allowed to bring it to the open championship.
Yeah. It's an emotional support Eagle.
There was actually, there was a bird show somewhere in the United States this weekend where they had a Falcon re exhibit and this dude brought his Falcon out to the middle and there's a crowd of thousands watching him and he sends his falcon up to start flying and then he just waits and waits and he's like waving his hand up in the air he's like okay the falcon's coming back and he's second now and the falcon just decided like peace out fuck you guys i'm gone and just became just became a wild bird again in the middle of the show so awesome i love it i love it free that falcon And then one last shout out to the claret jug guy who that's got to be the most pressure of any job ever he has to engrave the claret jug like in the five minutes between the the tournament ending and them doing the award presentation i they showed him and he was just sitting there chiseling away i like do you think he's ever made a mistake because that's a lot of fucking pressure for sure i think the person that does the stanley cup names has that sort of pressure too and they definitely have time they definitely they make mistakes though that guy's definitely made a mistake before and it was cracking me up because the camera angle that they showed of the guy in his little hut they like station him in a shack somewhere on the course and he's just like hunched over a table and he's got the chiseling tool but it looks like it's a straw going into his nose and he just looked like he was just blowing lines backstage when the when the camera was on him he might have needed to just to like focus on this one moment where like he he he has basically an entire 365 day or 364 days where he just can chill and then one day the most pressure in the entire world on his shoulders yeah and he has to spell a name that's never been spelled on a major trophy before cameron yeah i would i would have fucked up like all day long i was i was mixing up cam smith and cam young when i was talking to people and i was like oh yeah cam young is killing it right now then i have to remind myself oh no that's the bad cam that's the other cam that's the cam that sucks what were you gonna say uh jake yeah so good news for rory actually next year the open championships at royal liverpool and that's where he won it in 2014 okay so that doesn't help us at all i'm just saying for his for his sake. He's going somewhere where he's won before.
We'll pre-bet it. Jake is always good at giving the silver linings that I just want to be like shut the fuck up with that silver lining.
Bookmark this. You're the king of it, Jake.
He's been there before. There's no one who has a rosier outlook on life than you in like just the worst times where i'm just sitting just stewing by myself just like like motherfucking everything so i i end up winning my bet today but the way that i bet on golf sometimes is so stupid where i bet on like nine players before the tournament started then Then I bet on two more players after the first round.

Then I forgot and I realized, oh yeah,

none of my bets that I put in on Thursday are going to hit at all.

So then I just loaded up on cam and put like a little bit on Rory for today.

I checked my account.

I exactly broke back even on the entire tournament.

That's how bad, but he was like, he was like plus 800 when I bet on him.

That's how bad all my other bets were. That's a good and we also got robbed of uh the max slam right he didn't make the cut that was sad he got to watch tiger go across the bridge though so good for him i think that if you if you had asked max truthfully what would you rather have happened you barely make the cut and you know you finish in like 40th place or whatever or you get to play with tiger on his last round at sanders potentially and get to experience that moment i think i think max is such a softy and such an emotional guy he's like you know what that's a memory that's worth that's worth more than any amount of money and i kind of agree with him like that is an all-time moment that he got to basically walk and stand right behind like he showed he put up a picture on his instagram that was you know tiger going across the bridge and he's standing right there that's there's only him and fitzpatrick are the only two guys that were that close and were like that in the moment do you blame yourself at all for max's performance thinking that maybe there's an outside chance that the entire time he was thinking about tiger woods fucking his wife no no i know i think that i should probably should have gone harder i probably should have gone harder i think i should have been like i should have been way more graphic about it because because he didn't he clearly was still like wrapped up in the tiger lore i should have really just made tiger such a detestable person to him that he was so focused that he beat his brains in instead he was like happy to be with tiger so i didn't do my job so hand up i didn't do my job i didn't go hard enough on the idea that tiger wanted to fuck tiger probably wanted to fuck your whole family max every single member of your family so i should have said that before even your dogs i think i think multiple dogs so yeah i i should have said that i should have gone really really hard um i that joke by the way i had a couple people being like too far and i i actually can't tell if they're saying too far like that's offensive to max or too far because they're such tiger fans that they're like that's not right to say that about tiger i think it's the latter i think it's the time honestly i think people got upset and uncomfortable about it because it was too close to the truth i think people got mad because you were just too close to the truth i think that you i think you cut too close to the bone and people were like uh yeah it's uncomfortable but god damn it's probably true like if as they say if you're taking flack that means that you're over all the right targets big cat yeah it was it was essentially like what everyone's thinking but no one wants to say out loud i just said it out loud the tiger's just eyeing up all of max's family and fitzpatrick's family for that and actually fitzpatrick's uh adopted family in boston too he wanted to fuck them all that's just the tiger way tiger would fuck each every one of us.
If he had a half second of opportunity, if a hole presented itself to him, Tiger swimming in it. Or if we were serving them pancakes at a Perkins, especially that, then it's on site.
Then it's on site. Um, yeah, Tiger, that was, I guess that was sad watching him walk up.
I, I though, I assume that Tiger is going to keep playing all the majors. So so i feel like he's gonna at least get to do that walk like six more times but that might be stupid but if i were him i would just keep playing all the majors and people will still like think about it tiger's in that spot now where his legacy is completely cemented he's the greatest of all time he can show up to a major oh don't think so, Hank? You think it's still Jack Nicklaus?

Who's got more majors?

I mean, who played in a more competitive era?

How does that impact?

It's not Nicklaus' fault.

You can only play when you play.

Okay, alright, so Tiger's the second best golfer

of all time, according to Hank.

Tiger fans, go ahead. And the record books.

He's at hen underscore ease on Twitter for any Tiger fans that want to go after him what I was gonna say though Tiger basically can show up to a major and if he makes the cut the story is about Tiger like that's all he has to do everyone just be like oh my god Tigers all he has to do is put one low round out there and everyone's like watch out for Tiger that. That's a pretty cool spot to be in because his reputation is so high that anytime he plays decent golf, everyone's going to lose their fucking mind.
And rightfully so. So his legacy is cemented, but is his brand cemented? That's the real question we should be asking ourselves.
No, he needs to go to the live tour. He needs to conquer the live for that to happen tiger woods on the prowl in saudi arabia he would be arrested very quickly yeah they wouldn't i don't think that would work um anything else before we do who's back any other sports stories from the weekend uh juan soto is probably going to get traded i've i've gone back and forth trying to figure out,

am I in denial about this?

Have I reached the bargaining stage of this?

And right now I'm still in denial.

I think that the Nationals are going to make one more offer.

And if they make an offer that's like $460 million or whatever,

and he turns it down, at that point it's like,

I don't know if that's worse because it's not like I can blame the team

for cheaping out on it because they're giving him a shitload of money and it's not deferred money either like they did with Scherzer and Strasburg or they tried to do with Rendon too this is straight up like okay here's a normal gigantic baseball deal for you you don't have to wait 20 years to collect all of it and we can't blame the team for cheaping out at that point but at the same time it's almost's almost a little bit worse because he's just saying, no, no matter how much money you pay me, I do not want to play in Washington, D.C. for the rest of my career.
So that kind of stings too. And at this point, it's like, okay, if he doesn't want to take that deal, then we'll have to trade him away, get a bunch of good players, hopefully, for him.
And you know what? We won a World Series. So we'll always have always have that at least yes and he is the rare case where i don't think any dollar amount is enough because you're you're signing him i think he's 23 years old right now and so i think he's i think he's got a couple more years of arbitration and then it would be like 26 maybe 27 where he's a free agent like it's it is a very rare case where a lot of times in baseball, especially like 15, 20 years ago, guys would just get paid for past, what they did in the past and not what they're going to be in the future.
You're getting the future for him, and he is worth every dollar. I actually saw someone set up a dollar amount, like what each player is worth to the franchise.
And like it was like for the Dodgers to trade to the Nationals. And it was it was like nine players.
It was like nine players would be worth what he can bring to the team. That's how fucking good he is.
Yeah, he is worth every single penny. He's so fucking good.
And I've just kind of I guess I've reached the point where I'm like, OK, it better if we trade him i don't want to trade him i want him to be a nat for life i want him to accept that deal and retire when he's 38 in dc and i want to watch him play for my favorite team for the next like 14 years that would be awesome but the reality is if he doesn't take this contract and he just doesn't want to play in dc and you have to get what you can for him and as it stands right right now, he would get three more post seasons with whatever team that we would trade him to before he reached free agency. So he's still worth a lot right now.
He's worth a lot in terms of trade. So I hope he changes mind.
Juan, listen to me. Don't make me beg, Juan.
I will beg if that's what it takes. But listen, if you're going to if you're going to go somewhere, please, please just get it like a gigantic hall and make the nationals competitive again.
Cause it stinks having a team that's this bad to root for. Yeah, but it is true.
Like you should, you should be rooting for a trade because he could basically revitalize the entire farm system with just one guy. That's how good he is.
Right. You could, you could, you could basically set up your entire future with one guy.
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Okay, who's back of the week? Henry. My who's back of the week is extremely insensitive graphics.
MLB on Fox yesterday. It was Yankees, Red Sox, in the bronx and coming back from commercial uh the mlb on fox team had a nice graphics package that was a nice aerial view of the uh site where the twin towers were it's now a memorial there's two uh pools like where the buildings were yeah pools where the buildings were and on this aerial view, they filled the two pools or two big squares with logos of the Red Sox and Yankees.
So just a nice little, you know, sometimes they do the Statue of Liberty. Sometimes they do Times Square.
MLB on Fox decided to go with the always fun and lighthearted 9-11 Memorial. Yeah.
You could could have picked any other location probably in the world but definitely in the united states any other space of land and they went with that one it it was shocking i don't who who thought that was going to be a good idea like because i'm usually not uh whenever twitter and and people get up in arms about something i'm usually like just chill out like it's not the end of the world this one was just more like who the fuck thought that was going to be a good idea ever like it wasn't even it wasn't like i was personally offended i was more like how the fuck did you not realize that this would would actually be offensive to to a lot of people yeah and that's where it's like they always are like oh oh, the intern that did this is getting fired. It's like there's no way that for a Saturday night broadcast for Red Sox-Yankees that that's just like an intern, make some graphics.
We're not going to look at them. We'll just run them.
The conversation probably went similar, ironically enough. We always do the Statue of Liberty.
What's something new we can do? What's the new space? And someone was like, what about the 9-11 memorial? And someone was like, yes, that's it. Never been done.
Go forward with that one. Yeah.
Yeah, they could have done any other place. They could have done Three Mile Island.
They could have done anything. You name it.
Just not that one location. Did you guys see, though? Because then someone said they had like the same MLB on Fox that tweeted the – did you see you see it was like the double raise? It was a graphic from a few years ago.
And I forget what the actual stats were, but it was like number of hits that this player has versus number of hits that this whole team has. And it was two bars going upwards with devil raise logos floating around them.
Yeah, yeah, I remember that. It looked like it was it looked like the towers and the devil rays were the planes like it was it was one of those things where after seeing that it was like this is something weird is going on like this that this is too much of a coincidence jesus i'll send i'll send the graphic it was that one was oh what the fuck sorry i just got a weird update on my computer it was it was so it was so stupid that twitter started uh marking it as sensitive material and blurring it you know when it's like you need to opt in that's how stupid it was that they the twitter was like yeah the fox just put fucking graph baseball graphics on the where the twin towers went down this shouldn't be seen that's how fucking dumb it was yeah good rule of thumb is if you're doing a national broadcast in sports just don't mention 9-11 or make any reference to 9-11 there's really no upside to it whatsoever unless it's george bush's first pitch that he threw out in yankee stadium in which case yes i will watch that every chance that i get yes uh it was tampa bay raised entire payroll for the past four years was 233 million wander franco's 12-year contract extension 223 million so it's two bars that are equally the same size and then there's two double rays like floating around them at different heights holy shit this is wild so yeah they got mlb on fox has some uh some pr to do yeah.
Yeah, they got to figure this one out. They got to have a big meeting about this one.
I also have another one, but I think one of you guys is going to talk about it. Yeah, I do.
I'm going to talk about it. Go ahead, PFT.
Okay, my who's back of the week is SEC Media Days. It's this week.
And SEC Media Days for the coaches are some of the best days. It's not going to be the same without having Spurrier it's been like that for the last couple years but that's always when spurry would that was his time to shine when he just go out there and just make fun of every other fan base in the sec so i miss that still but tomorrow we get brian kelly who's probably going to have a translator next to him so that everybody can make sure that they understand what he's saying and then lane kiffin is going tomorrow but i i absolutely love sec media days because it always stokes the rivalry and i'm sure this year we're going to get some some content between nick saban and uh and jumbo fisher and it's going to be uh it's going to be incredible jimbo's going to be like ready to slap him in the face uh and then yeah who knows who knows what nick saban's going to say if he's going to take the high road or not lane kiffin's always fun brian kelly's gonna be fun just because he's brand new um so yeah sec media days are back i can't wait to see because that means that football is back yes yes it is um i'm sure lane or uh jimbo and nick saban are gonna get like greg sankey's gonna put them in a hotel suite and just be like you guys don't a fucking word.
Both of you guys like are in the doghouse with me because that's how the SEC always does this shit. That's why they're, that's why they've ascended to where they are is Greg Sankey is like probably the best commissioner in any sport, in any like league and anything.
So we won't get the fireworks, but there will be the tension there that we want to see there'll be the tension and also just the coaches that are in the sec every one of them it's it's a must watch like mike leach on an open mic that's a point on television right there yeah he'll just go forever all right my who's back i think this is what hank was alluding to is lebron um he played in the drew league i actually tuned in it was was a dude holding his cell phone in the back row, and they had it on the NBA app. I tuned in for a minute.
LeBron cooked some guy and then missed a three, and I was like, I've seen enough. That's exactly what I want to see because I know that I'm sure he had some crazy highlights, but it was crazy that like on a Saturday uh, everyone was furiously trying to get on the NBA app, which it just kept on like shitting out on me.
But there was, it was quite literally a guy with his cell phone, just, just videotaped, like half of the screen was just the fans in front of him. But I guess that just tells you what LeBron does.
He's, uh, he shows up to the drew league and that's what happens i would imagine his nike sponsorship they're probably not so happy because the drew league is sponsored by adidas someone should point that out well probably a lot of money lost explain to me like i'm an idiot what is the drew league there's all to the california summer league yeah it's in california there was a few years ago there was like memories that came up because it was like when kobe played i remember this and uh i think it was brandon jennings got mad because he wasn't from california like it used to be a super super like la only uh just like pickup game and obviously like during the lockout a lot of nba players played in it and that kind of blew it up but it's it's just like a summer league uh that like nba players will occasionally play and obviously when the lockout happened they were playing in it like every day but it's just like a LA elite pickup game yeah there's there's certain ones I think there's one in New York as well and they're they're basically like some NBA players like DeMar DeRozan was playing in it um and then he's from LA yeah I know but I'm saying like he was playing in it yesterday. There's NBA players who play in it and then very good guys who were good in college who might play overseas just to keep sharp.
And the Kobe one was awesome when he hit that game winner and everyone just mobbed him. And LeBron just wants to be Kobe.
So that's why he – I mean, he had two NBAs. It was him and DeRozan.
They won by two. Like, that's tough.
DeRozan probably carried him, if we're being honest. Was Kyrie going to play? I saw that there was talk he would show up this year.
Kyrie was at... So there was rumors that Kyrie was going to play because he was at...
I think one of his former coaches is now an assistant coach for the Lakers, and he was at his summer camp, like, doing drills and stuff. So today yeah i saw a couple highlights that was just kairi just like just didn't show up but yeah he was supposed to play that's weird that kairi would do that i saw a couple highlights of dudes trying to guard lebron and they were trying the hardest that they've ever tried at basketball in their entire lives because they're like this is my moment oh yeah to shut lebron down then lebron would just hit him with a casual spin move and then walk when the guys would be like damn it they they should know though that if they ever do anything good against lebron it will just get erased from the internet like that last time when he got dunked on at that camp and by a high schooler yeah and then it got erased from everywhere but yeah adidas shout out adidas sponsored the drew league nice little pub for pub for them i also saw lebron uh dapped up lavar which was nice because you know lavar was like i could have i could kill you one-on-one if i wanted to they should let lavar play in the drew league imagine the ratings just one-on-one lavar versus lebron would be so great i'd watch that like this is the time right now when we're we just fell off a sports cliff with the Open Championship being over.
Give us LeVar versus LeBron one-on-one. And we'll just take whatever tiny little highlight that LeVar has or whatever minor, like, LeBron dribbles the ball off his foot one time.
Boom. That's the highlight for the entire tournament.
LeVar. That would be the easiest.
That would be 11-0. That would be 11-0.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, Jake, finish us off with who's back.
My who's back is the booth. Fortunately, I am back this weekend.
ESPN Plus, Saturday night. We have Redwoods Atlas and Whipsnakes Chaos.
So thank you to ESPN and the PLL for giving me another chance. I'm excited.
Let's go, Jake. You can tune in.
You've done a great job in the booth so far. I keep waiting to pounce on a mistake that you make, and you're not giving me any opportunity.
You're pro's pro. Thank you.
Don't jinx it. But, yeah, two more games Saturday night.
I'll be in Fairfield, Connecticut. And, yeah, please tune in.
Does that make you nervous, Jake, knowing that we're watching and we're like if you screw up just even a little bit, we are going to it the biggest deal ever we're just going to tune this out and see what happens on saturday we're announcing we'll be tuning you yeah yeah so you just want me to screw up no no no no no maybe no no just say no pft we know we do no no no no what we're saying is if you do screw up we will make it like you thought that we were hard on tom brenneman like we're going nuclear on you yeah let's just hope it's something it's a mistake that we can joke about after and it's nothing like oh no yeah like maybe you have a cheesesteak before the game with lettuce and tomatoes on it, and then you have to just run out of the booth real quick and crap yourself.

No, that would be too much.

And let me just say to all the AWLs, the offer still stands.

If you don't watch this, we will come and murder you.

And also, you can help us out by nitpicking everything Jake does and sending it to us.

Fair enough.

The All-Star game happened this weekend.

They had a rule after you guys. Yeah.
The bonus ball ball yeah yeah i love it did what was the final score what was the final score i believe it was i believe it was 33 to 13 so it was okay so it worked so the over probably hit so more points that's all you need an all-star game all-star game should always the over should always hit in the all-star game i'm not just saying that because i lost betting the over in the wmba all-star game last week, but every all-star game, the over should hit hit in the All-Star game. I'm not just saying that because I lost betting the over

in the WNBA All-Star game last week,

but every All-Star game, the over should hit.

That should be a rule.

It should be like a free bet for everyone who watches the All-Star game.

Everyone wants to see points.

No one wants to see defense.

Every All-Star game should have a bunch of points

and then one old guy in his last year that retires

and gets a big curtain call. That's all I want in the All- I want.
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And now here's Frankie Munoie munoz okay we now welcome on a very special guest i'm not even gonna say actor he's he's a race car driver he's a truck driver right like should we just do it that way now it's frankie munoz yes i mean i i've been fortunate to do a lot of different things in my life but but my my main focus is racing like that's you know i i'm fortunate enough to get to kind of look back at my life and and think of the things i've gotten to do in the past and where i really want to focus my future and that's where i feel the most at home but there's also a weird element i we were just talking i had i have a i have a 15 month old son and i feel like most people when they have a kid slow down yeah and want to do less dangerous things yeah me it was more i wanted him to be able to watch me going after like grow up with me going after my dream right i mean and the passion and the hard work and and rather than me just sitting at home you know or being some lame actor i gotta i gotta work for this i want you to you know i think you're not a lame actor but is that at home, you know, or being some lame actor, I got to work for this. I want you to, you know.
I think you're not a lame actor. But is that so obviously, you know, it's great to have you in here.
The people will know you as an actor. But are you hoping that someday you're known more as a race car driver or truck driver? It's truck, right? Well, yeah, let's back up.
Yeah. So, you know, motorsports in general, I started racing in 2005.
I was doing open wheel stuff like IndyCar, Formula One. I raced in Champ Car Atlantics.
I got really badly hurt in 2009. I broke my back, pins put in my hand, broken ankle, broken everything.
And always thought I'd go back racing. I always knew I had, in my mind, unfinished business.
But the injuries took a pretty long time to heal. So I missed the next season and then life takes over.
I mean, I joined a band. I was on tour and always said I'd go back racing, but the years just keep passing by.
I'm 36. I'm not getting any younger.
It's a young man's sport. If I'm going to do it, I want to do it.
And I want, want i want to i want to be able to look back and go you know what i accomplished what i was going after going after and uh and i felt like this was what i want to do i like i said i raced open wheel stuff i love the idea of racing in in nascar um so this i love that idea for you yes i want that Yes, you should. happen for you Let's do that So this past couple months

I've been doing a lot of stock car stuff

Pro late models with the intention

Yes, that I want to race trucks

I want to race in the Xfinity series

Arca, NASCAR

But I'm saying motorsports

In general because

I just want to race cars

I want to be a race car driver I want to i want to go i want to go fast yeah i hear you what's the fastest you've ever been uh probably 205 damn yeah uh you know it's funny the the tracks that you go really like the really high speed tracks actually don't feel as fast as some of the smaller tracks i'll be going 100 miles an hour you're on the limit. That's when you feel like you're going fast.
You have the car sideways. So, you know, it's not just about like that top speed.
But, you know, I did the ARCA test at Daytona at the beginning of this year. You know, you're going 190, 200 miles an hour.
But it doesn't, you want to go faster. Right.
It's a big, big place. That's crazy.
It's all addictive you know what's funny i feel like once i became a race car driver i became i actually go a lot slow like in my in real life like in the car in my cars i don't want a sports car anymore i ride motorcycles but like i've gone from having super sport bikes to like cruisers because like there's nothing like the speed of being in a race car or like driving on the limit with other people in the street i'm just gonna get in trouble you know what i mean but i don't know if if speed is necessarily addictive as much as the competitive like i'm super competitive i want to win i want to beat you you know what i mean and i think i that's more addictive you know what i mean like

the the working hard and going faster than the other guy right yeah going faster than the other guy yeah just like going fast if we're racing smart cars you know what i mean and going 50 miles an hour like i just want to beat you that's that's what is addictive not necessarily the just going fast your career is crazy because you know we're the same age as you so we remember Malcolm in the Middle. We remember watching it.

I think there's a preconceived notion

with child Your career is crazy because we're the same age as you, so we remember Malcolm in the Middle. We remember watching it.

I think there's a preconceived notion with child actors where it's like, oh, a child actor, that's got to suck when they grow up.

And I love, but I love, you can tell me I'm way off.

I love that you are very open with, no, my life is pretty sweet.

I get to do everything I want to do.

Well, I know there's most child actors, yes, do have a ginormous decline. Right.
Me, I've always just, as cheesy as it sounds, I've gone after my dreams. And I look back and I go, I'm lucky.
You know what I mean? A lot of people look at it and go, oh, like, I know so many actors so many actors child actors or even adult actors who for some reason they get on these tv shows they have all this success but they're miserable right and they want i want off the show i want to do movie it's like you don't understand how lucky you are and you have it because it's gonna end eventually it's gonna end so me i went from acting i wanted to go into racing i wanted to push it 100 so i kind of left the acting world did that i got to do the band i've owned a bunch of businesses i've been fortunate to do everything i've wanted to do and i and i i know i'm lucky you know what i mean right but in that same sense i've always felt like i was running out of time so i i a lot of my passion and me going after all these things is I want to live the most fulfilled life I can. You know what I mean? For me, you know, I want to look back and go like, man, I didn't waste any time.
Like I got to do everything I ever dreamt of. And, you know, hopefully in doing those things, I'm being the best I can be.
I'm doing the best I can be with them. I'm not doing this stuff as a hobby like i i don't want to be a race car driver just because it's fun i want to do it because i i want to i want to be the best i want to win a championship i want to win races and i want to be remembered as a great race car driver as well as a great actor or whatever i'm not ashamed of anything i've done in the past right um well maybe a few things well that does have to be a weird feeling too i you know it it's got to be bizarre to be able to watch back your acting and like be like that's when i was growing up and like my formative years and it's all on display it's not obvious it's scripted so it's not reality television but still like to look back and be like whoa that's like i can't imagine the mind fuck if any of us were able to look back and see like us grow up on screen it's got to be a little weird it is you know it's people ask me all the time they go you know are you sad that you didn't get to go to high school prom or these things and I was like well no I got so many incredible opportunities and you know I was Right.
I was at the Emmys. You know, I was at the Playboy Mansion when I was 15.
That's pretty serious. Way cooler than prom.
Trust me. Yes.
Yes. So, I don't know.
That's like when Playboy was like. Oh, that was when it was legit.
Yeah. That is all.
You could have just said that. Not this word search bullshit.
Playboy search bullshit yeah you got to hang out the grotto all the time um so you know i i look back and i go like no i was completely lucky i don't take it for granted you know what i mean um but but no i'm sorry there's no yeah you touched on something real quick that was uh it makes a lot of sense i think a lot of people in Hollywood especially are just, they don't know how to be happy.

Right. And just because they're being successful at whatever show is on, if they're at the top of the A-list, if they're getting invited to all the good parties, they're still not really happy.
They're just like – I don't know what that is. I've thought about it a lot because I have – it took me, I think, stepping away to, you know, cause when you're in it, like, it's just your life, right? Like when you're filming a show every day, it's just what you do.
You know what I mean? And, and maybe you don't take it all in at that time. Cause you think, Oh yeah, yeah, this is what I do.
This way I do. I go to these shows.
I go to this premiere. I have to fly here.
I have to do that. And it just becomes what you do, right.
But it took me when I stepped away, I look back and I go, wow, that was awesome. And if I ever have an opportunity again, or whatever I'm doing, I'm going to take full advantage of that and know that this is a great experience.
I want people to leave who I work with, who go, man, he's a great guy, he puts 100% he puts 100 effort you know i never complain i don't want to go home you know like that's how i want to be remembered right i mean and but i feel like it took leaving to see that i think that's a healthy perspective to have too yeah and if you're in it for too long then your entire self-worth gets based on what other people are saying about you yeah and then the second they turn on you it's like it crushes you yeah i think that's why a lot of child actors end up going down a bad path is you're also so used to your life being like everybody you know giving you whatever you want or doing whatever you want and there's like there's like the endorphins are a high that come with that and then it goes away and they need something to fill that void and they you know cocaine well yeah it's i think it's also like the the pressure the the public puts on child actors where it's like if they don't become adult actors it's always like what happened to that person yeah and it's what happened to Frankie Muniz? Well, he's living an awesome life and he's going after all his goals. And that doesn't compute to a lot of people.
I remember being 17, 18, 19, I was on Malcolm Still. And everyone would always be like, how are you going to make that transition to adult actor? And my answer used to be like, well, when I turn 18, I'm legally an adult.
If I'm still acting act like i don't know i don't know there's no like science behind it right but in that same sense i i never let that change decisions i made or affect decisions or things that i i wanted to do or was like well i have to make sure i make the right decision to get me to be an adult actor if it works works out, it does. I think one weird thing for me is I was in the height of my acting career, like on the show.
And I decided to like, say, Hey, I'm not going to do any more. I want to go race.
I want to do this. I want to focus on this.
I want to, you know, if I'm going to do something, I want to do it a hundred percent. And I don't know if a lot of people know that, you know what I mean? So maybe in some in some eyes they think that I failed as an actor or I didn't make it, you know what I mean? Right.
But in the end, like, I know I'm happy with the decisions I made, you know what I mean? Yeah. I can't help but think that at times where I go, like, what if I did stay? Like, where would I be or what would have happened? Right.
You know what I mean? But I think me as a person, a person the best thing i could have done is what i did right i think it's a healthier choice that you made like a much much better for your mental health to do something like that than to like be wrapped up in something that you might not have as like a long-term goal then you're just like fighting trying to be happy yeah you know you're always fighting against the possibility of being upset but i guess you uh the only career decision I would say that I would vehemently disagree with is becoming a Clippers fan. Yeah, you are the only Clippers fan Well, any more passed away.
So Billy Crystal, I think is really goes to the big game Yeah, yeah, he's not a real one. You're the world's only Tatro huge Clippers fan our friend.
That's true Yeah, we'll see enormous Clippersippers fan. I became a Clippers fan because I played NBA Live 94 on Super Nintendo or whatever it was.
And the Clippers were the only team that I didn't mind deleting all the players because I didn't know who any of them were. And it was like I put myself, my dad, and of course I was 99 and everything.
My cat was a player. You know what I mean? So then I was like, well, I'm going to be a Clippers fan right I grew up in New Jersey is that really that's really the story that's amazing that's awesome and so I take you back I'm glad you're a Clippers fan so then in 97 or whatever was like the first time I went to LA like I went to a Clippers game at the sports arena and there was like seven people there and I don't know I just I loved I loved it like I loved even though they didn't win often, I loved having a team that I supported and, and you know, but I spend a lot of money going to games to be miserable.
Yep. And that's one of the things I look back and I go like, wow, I literally paid money to be angry.
Yeah. Every day.
That's sports fandom though. Yeah.
That's every, like there's only one winner every year. I'm a Washington Commanders fan.
I get it. But you did yours by choice though..
That's the difference. I just kind of had to be because I grew up around it.
You're like, you know what? Yeah, the Clippers, that seems like a good investment. If you saw that I have in storage bins of everything that I could find because you rarely could find Clippers stuff.
You go to sports stores, nobody had Clippers stuff because nobody bought it. But if I found it, I bought everything.
I have every Clippers item I could ever find for like 20 years. So whose side did you take in the Chris Paul, Blake Griffin saga? Answer carefully.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
One of them is a friend of ours. Both of them are friends of mine.
Okay. Who's a better guy? Who's a better guy? I don't know.
Be careful. I don't want to be put on a spy.
Just be honest, yeah. But be careful.
So 1A, 1B. Be careful.
I was a big Blake Griffin fan. Yeah, there we go.
Good answer. Good choice.
Good job, Frankie. I live in Phoenix now, though.
You know what I mean? I'm'm not necessarily a Suns fan, but I root for the city. Right.
You know what I mean? I want, you know, and obviously Chris Paul's done great with the Suns. Oh, has he? I guess.
Like seating-wise. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't really want anything of note.
Yeah. Well, better than the Clippers.
Yeah. Yeah.
You've got to be excited about this year, though, right? Like John Wall, this is the year, right? Kawhi may be coming back. I've said this is the year every year since 1994.
So I don't know. To be honest, I'm going to be 100% in front of you guys.
I have not watched a basketball game in maybe three years. Oh, wow.
So to be honest, I'm just being – I don't know what happened because it was literally my life. All I cared about was the Clippers and basketball.
Yeah. I don't know.
You were a Clippers fan. That's probably the answer.
That probably. That's like, why don't I like this anymore? Well, they became like super trendy too.
They kind of became like cool. That was cool to be a Clipper fan.
When they traded away Blake Griffin. Yeah.
You stopped watching basketball. That's loyalty right there.
I respect that. Yes.
I love that. That's it's it well the other thing I was wondering your Twitter is is very funny because I think it's well just like you know it'll pop up every now and then you'll go viral I do love the one time I have this someone said I don't even know if you remember this someone said your acting is just awful sorry but it replied, yeah, but being retired with $40 million at 19 has not been awful.

Good luck moving out of your mom's house before you're 35.

I just love that.

Look, sometimes the internet is filled with hate, right?

And people sling mud because they can.

Yep.

And I never...

But every once in a while, you have to punch back.

Yes, yes.

You got to slap some people around. Just let them know.
You you're right yes my acting is awful but you know what's not so i don't know sometimes i just had to punch back yeah is it objectively awful if you're getting paid for it somebody thinks it's good right well look i i've never i've never claimed to be a good actor right i've yes i was an actor i did what told me to do. I said what they told me to say.
And sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. You know what I mean? Yeah, right.
And the other one I wanted to read to you that's very funny is you said, you know when you look in the mirror and realize you'll never be as good looking as Zac Efron and you'll always be Frankie Muniz looking motherfucker? Imagine being Frankie Muniz. Yeah.
You know, I know where I stand. Right.
I was never, I wasn't, I wasn't a heartthrob. I was, I was not in a lot of teen beat magazines.
You know, I, uh, I was a funny, awkward kid and it worked for, for Malcolm in the Middle. Yeah.
I've got a couple more examples here. This is, this one's a little darker.
Maybe you can explain this one. I have about four dreams a week week that I get shot in last night I could actually feel the burn of bullets as they entered my chest and heart do you still like constantly dream about getting shot I do actually um I don't I don't I'm not like a dream person right where like some someone I'm sure can tell me that that means something is haunting me in my life or whatever it may be but But honestly, I have those dreams all the time, and they're awful.

Yeah, it sounds terrible.

Like four times a week?

Do you have any enemies?

I'm sure.

Apparently.

I would be afraid to fall asleep if I were you.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's weird.

Honestly, I wake up all the time with that feeling of just like oh good thank thank goodness i woke up yeah um you might just have sleep apnea maybe that's i've always heard that like if you if you experience something painful in your sleep you can just write it off to sleep apnea oh yeah go get a mask and then you stop dreaming about that weird stuff maybe i on it i i really truly feel like i know what it feels like to be shot that's crazy i mean i don't shoot me i don't want to like find out yeah but like that's that's nuts yeah what uh you also i mean your your career has been fascinating you you're in the olive oil business yeah still not anymore we sold the company okay because i was gonna say did you just

do that so people could be like he might be in the mafia because that's like that's all you hear like olive oil business what made you do that to to be honest my wife um we were looking at businesses that she that she could be have or or do and we randomly had gone to this olive oil company and they were like it's for sale and i was like i'll buy it okay another one of those on a whim like i i i knew i loved business i wanted to be involved like i love kind of the behind the scenes um aspect of businesses and it was something that she was passionate about and we did it and then it ended up becoming like a huge passion of mine. That's crazy.
I loved everything about the business and olive oil and the benefits and the science behind it. We sourced from 14 different countries.
We got everything tested by a third party to make sure it was the highest rated olive oil, the freshest in the country and we became one of the biggest olive oil companies in the U.S. And you sold it for a profit?

Oh, yeah.

That's crazy.

I mean, it's one of those things we look back at now,

we go like, that was pretty cool.

But in it, it was way more work than you could imagine.

Right.

You know what I mean?

It was definitely, it's not an easy business.

Right.

It's very time consuming.

And she had gotten pregnant and a couple came up to us and they were like, we love your business like would you ever want to sell it and i i said a stupid number and it was there a week later that's great so i mean we do miss it you know we miss having a business um but at the same time like we had the baby and now you can go buy another business if you want yeah so at the time when you were selling olive oil did people know like this was your olive oil company i mean i i was there pretty much every day we had we had a storefront um and there were times where people would be like why are you here like why are you oh oh you're selling olive oil now i'm like yeah but i i mean it's my i own it it's fun yeah and and i and i enjoyed it like it was one of those things that like that was what i wanted to focus on. And I wanted us to be as big as we could.
And we worked really, really hard at it. And that's just kind of what I've – I try to do with everything I do.
Yeah. You know, especially now with motorsports.
This is great because I – like, you really do have a fascinating career. I also – there's, like, a moment in time that some of our listeners probably won't realize.
But, like I said're the same age as you you were on the first ever episode of punked is that correct yeah yeah like this is like this is this is shit that should be remembered forever because punked was a huge huge cultural phenomenon you were you know at the nadir of your like acting so what what do What'd they do? were you punked i i did a movie with a sean levy um who now created and directs stranger things and all that and ashton had did a movie with him as well and they called and said we want to pitch you a an idea for a movie so i met them at the standard hotel and i had a big car collection then and uh I think they were assuming I was going to drive there's a big backstory behind it but uh anyway I I show up at the hotel and Dax who wasn't Dax then right I didn't know who Dax was just a guy right he's like Ashton's buddy he's like I'm Ashton's assistant he's like uh the parking lot's full park across the street so he helps me get across the street I park my car go in have the meeting with ashton and sean levy and and a bunch of some weird things happened that they didn't show like in the in the hotel that i think that they thought i would like question but it was la you know i was like oh yeah people fighting it's fine um and i go out and my the valet said that dax wanted me to move his my car and he took it and like so it was a 1956 porsche speedster it was a very like a car i never drove and never parked but i was late and i don't know i don't know why i brought it um and i freaked out and i had left my phone in the car which worked great for the episode right because then i'm calling my phone dax answers right you know i'm like dude you're in my car you know it was this whole thing but that's amazing yeah it was me and justin timberlake on the first the first episode yeah that's incredible i think all you have to do on that show is not like flip out and threaten to assault somebody and then everybody will love you i think it was i think it was the first time like i like said a bad word on tv you know what i mean i was like i was like started cursing out the valet guy you know what I mean they were probably like that's awesome that's a perfect soundbite it's like Frankie Muni is being like you motherfuckers like we got him but then they end up my car drives into the parking lot and Ashton gets out and he's like you got punked and I'm like where's the asshole stole my car you know I didn't even understand what they were talking about because punked wasn't a thing it wasn't a show i'm like how'd you find it he's like you'll understand what that means in five years yeah yeah wow that's perfect that's so so funny yeah yeah that's like the like that was again now that's something people probably won't some people won't understand how big punk became oh no that was how big you were and all of that coming together that was a that was a huge

huge show yeah that's you and justin timberlake first punk i i do have a couple malcolm in the

middle questions just because like big cat said we did grow up watching it yeah um and you've

probably heard this one a million times but brian cranson as as the father on the show a lot of

people don't realize that when breaking bad finished he included like a spoof throwaway

scene of like uh in i think it was a dvd being like, all of Breaking Bad was just a dream that I had on Malcolm in the Middle. Yeah, yeah.
But working with him as an actor, there's clearly always been something incredible about the way he goes about his business. And being on that show, he really helped to make that show.
Was he intimidating at all to work with or how was that for you as like a young actor working with somebody that was so like great at their profession? You know how I said that I want people to work with me and have nothing but positive things to say. I learned that from Brian, honestly, the most amazing human alive, you know what I mean? He showed up to work a hundred percent professional put, he professional put he'd be off camera you some people throw away their line he did the same performance every time and just the nicest guy so as far as me like you know when we're on malcolm it was he was brian cranson but he wasn't i think the brian cranson that branston is now.
Right. You know what I mean? But I'm so happy for him, the success he's had since.
I mean, Breaking Bad was insane, amazing. He's such a good actor.
But I don't know. I wouldn't say intimidating because he really became like a father figure to me.
Like, honestly, he's still to this day. The show ended 16 years ago.
He still calls all the time to check in brian cranston calls me that's cool you know what i mean that's very cool because he cares and that's i'll always remember that you know what i mean yeah i haven't talked to anyone else from the show oh print that i'm kidding fuck you do it don't call me no that's awesome actually that's the exact right answer that i wanted to hear because he's so cool you have an impression of people you never know what they're like until you actually sit down and know them for a while but he's always struck me as somebody that like everyone has positive things to say yeah and working with him closely at that time must have been it must have been really interesting to see him like because that's the role that i think took him from being you know of mid-name for TV actors. And it elevated him because on a show that was kind of – it was sitcom-y, but it was single camera.
It was a little bit different. But it took him and elevated him to really the top tier of television actors, which just launched him into a different stratosphere.
Yeah, what's funny is they – when we did the pilot, they didn't have him cast until the day we started filming. Like they couldn't find and they're like, I guess it'll work.
And then they were going to write that character kind of out of the show. But Brian was so good.
You know what I mean? I rewatched all the episodes. I'd never seen him when they aired.
I rewatched all the episodes with my wife a few years ago. And to me, Brian made that show like his comedy and like he was so good um but the first time we ever met him we were literally on set ready to film the first scene and it was the scene where um our mom is shaving him at the kitchen table of the first episode and he comes on set and he had like a skin-toned speedo on and he's all covered in hair he's like hey i'm brian i'm gonna be your dad you know and he's just the coolest guy like you know and so it's it's weird to think that if any actor on the show on most shows were if he didn't get cast it would have the show would have been completely different yeah i don't maybe it wouldn't have been nearly as successful or or not and then you wouldn't have had if you think the the

domino effect there would have been no breaking bad there would have been no you know like yeah we're so lucky yeah so you just watched the the series all the way through a couple years ago for the first time yeah yeah what was that like you know it's funny because i don't how do i put this I don't, I could watch it as a, as like a spectator, as a fan.

Like I didn't, how do I put this? I don't, I could watch it as a, as like a spectator, as a fan. Like I didn't, I didn't see it as me, you know what I mean? And then also we did so many episodes.
I actually didn't remember what most, what happens in most of the episodes. I could actually watch it, but it definitely changed my perspective of what the show was.
Like I, like the comedy, even when we were filming it or we were doing it, I imagined that the show was like i like the comedy even when we were filming it or

we were doing it i imagined that the show was different than it actually ended up being you

know what i mean and there were characters that when i was filming i was like this is stupid

that actually were my favorite they ended up becoming some of my favorite moments when i

re-watched the show you know what i mean but uh i i enjoyed i enjoyed it you know i there's been a

lot of i don't know speculation about like my memory and a lot of it has to do with the fact

Thank you. But I enjoyed it.
There's been a lot of speculation about my memory. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that I feel like I did so much, like so many episodes, so many things, and you just kind of do it.
You film. But I think the biggest thing for me is I don't distinguish.
There's three things. Things that I dreamt, I go like, did that happen? Cause I've, I've had so many crazy dreamlike things happen in reality.
But then also like most of my life and most of my childhood, I was pretending to be someone else, you know what I mean? And like doing things that I had to do that weren't really me, you know? So there's an element of like, yeah, you were Malcolm, right? Yeah. You know, I also think if you're a performer, if you're doing like, for example for example we do this show we've done it three days a week for the last six years i don't remember much like 30 minutes after the show i don't really remember what i said yeah and sometimes it takes people to like remind us the next day and they like send us a quote that we said on the show like oh yeah i remember that yeah yeah that was great but like you don't you don't necessarily absorb all the stuff as you're doing it.
My memory of Malcolm or filming Malcolm is what I've now seen on camera, right? Right. Because that's the last, you know, like, I see that.
Or, you know, my memory of most of my life comes from, like, seeing pictures. So I see it almost from the outside.
I don't necessarily – I don't know what that is, if it was that you just do so much or you talk so much or you you know you do so many shows that they all kind of come together yeah or you get used to kind of being in the moment and doing it and then you know go on to the next part of your life um but yeah i don't know what what what did happen i know you mentioned your health like there was a moment there where i think i remember reading it was like amnesia or something you had concussions yeah I've had nine concussions um which is not great yeah are those all car crashes no a lot I played football and basketball I played every sport when I was growing up and you always fell and hit my head um I'm really close to the ground so it's easy to hit my head on the ground um no so there's that and then i was and this only

recent but I'm really close to the ground, so it's easy to hit my head on the ground. No, so there's that, and then I was, and this only recently figured out, wrongfully diagnosed with having TIAs, like mini strokes, like transient ischemic attacks.
I was having these episodes where like, I lose my vision, I couldn't recognize faces, couldn't talk, like all this kind of stuff. And it was happening pretty regularly.

And I was told that I was having mini strokes or TIAs, which is a pretty big deal.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Only to find out after continuing to go because they would do all these tests.

And none of the things that should have shown up were showing up.

But they were still kind of saying, yeah, it's this, it's this, it's this.

Finally, I had a doctor really kind of look into it. And it ends up i was just having aura migraines which still like sucks yeah it's still awful to have those episodes but part of the the story of how it kind of spread you know i did dancing with the stars in in 2017 and they have an episode where it's the most most memorable year episode and they told me that my most memorable year was 2001 they told you it and i go i don't i don't really have anything to talk i don't really know what happened in 2000 like i don't know what to say it's like why and i go and they're interviewing me and the way it got cut together together and the way they put it was that I have zero memory of anything.

And then the press took it.

And now if you search my name, it basically says I don't remember.

Like 50 first dates, my wife has to wake up every morning and tell me who she is.

This is your son.

And she plays a video.

No, no, I know I was Malcolm. I, right.
I did a lot of stuff. Right.
I don't remember everything. Yeah.
I mean, there's, I oftentimes like have not memory issues, but like, there's definitely a lot of things that I don't like someone will remind me of something like, oh yeah, I don't really remember that. I was with my grandpa yesterday.
He's 95 years old. You know what I mean? And he's like, did you remember? We went to that Papa John's and i'm like no yeah right my 95 year old grandpa can remember but yeah you know it was memorable for him it might not have been like that sticking point for you yeah yeah but i i like to now talk about it a little bit because now that i have a better understanding of of what it is or what i think it is you know because um people come up to me all the time and they're like, oh, do you know who you are? That's crazy.
Your name is Frankie Muniz. You were an actor.
You're now trying to be a race car driver. That's nuts.
But the aura migraines, is there anything that you can do to like stop those or slow them down at least? I'm trying to figure out now if there's something that triggers it. You what i mean like am i eating something you know what i mean or is it uh high stress situations i'm trying to figure that out now but uh i haven't had one in in a few years oh good knock on wood yeah yeah right now yeah yeah you're allergic to olive oil it was it would be great for the show might have fixed it yeah it would be great for the show if you had one right now.
Do you want a fake one? Yeah. Where am I? I have another random thing I read that is kind of a sad one, but you met Dale Earnhardt right before he passed away, right? I did, yes.
That's nuts. I was at the 2001 Daytona 500 because Malcolm had premiered the year before.
I was the Grand Marshal. I drove the pace car.
And I was a big racing fan at that point. And I got to go into the driver's meeting.
And as everyone was getting in their cars, I was on the grid. Dale Earnhardt came up to me.
And he goes, I just have to say, say he's like you've brought me and my daughter so

much closer your show he's like i love your show i'm a huge fan i'm like yeah he signed my jacket and he got in his car so like other than his crew chief essentially i was the last person to talk to him and we were in the m&m's car ken schrader's pit when and he's the car who crashed into dale Earnhardt and uh my mom was hanging out with uh the owner of um uh the track and and after the race everyone was kind of worried but nobody really knew anything and i went to the hotel to watch the clippers game i ran ran upstairs to watch clippers game and it was like breaking news they announced that he had died and i remember i ran down to the lobby to tell my mom and she was with the

track owner and everything they didn't even know i broke the news to the whole bar holy fuck it was it was just a crazy like super somber uh yeah experience that's insane that is yeah and and that how old were you uh 15 16 15 yeah they let you drive the pace car yeah it was a panic aztec and that didn't deter you at all

from wanting to be a race car driver

I don't know They let you drive the pace car. Yeah, it was a Pontiac Aztec.
And that didn't deter you at all from wanting to be a race car driver? I mean, obviously, you know there's danger in racing. I think that specific incident changed the racing world in a huge way to be a lot safer.
They implemented the Hans device then um after that and like you know obviously you know in the 60s 70s 80s like people died you knew that two or three guys were not going to make it through the season right i mean it's definitely become a lot safer granted you're doing something dangerous my thing is you know an air condition can fall out of a you know a window and crush me crush me today. That's my biggest fear.
Well, it really is. You really don't know.
Right. You know, I know when I'm in the race car, I'm trying to go as fast as possible.
And I'm not saying that you feel invincible. You know, something can happen, but you can't think about that.
Right. If you're thinking about that or if there's fear in you, then you don't be a race car driver.
You're not going to you're not going to be fast. Yeah.
That's that's that like watching uh f1 like the drivers survive when they're talking about having to be on the edge and just always be like pushing to that limit of you're you're basically almost crashing at all times at all times and if you if any there's anything in you that's like i don't want to get to that you just got passed yeah. Yeah.
You're done. That's when you retire.

Do you think people getting into F1 right now,

just from the Netflix,

like we're very casual fans,

do you look down on it all?

No, I think it's awesome.

I mean, because I was racing open wheel cars 15 years ago and it was being in the US,

nobody really understood what it was.

I would try to explain like,

you know, IndyCar, Formula One,

they're like, is it NASCAR?

You know, people really knew that. So it's kind of cool that, you know, motorsports in general in the U S is growing.
And I think, you know, more F1 fans will bring more IndyCar fans, which will bring more NASCAR fans, you know, once you get into the sport of racing, once you get into kind of watching it, you understand it more. And this, the, the stories and what drivers don't like each other.
And that, kind of what becomes fun about it. You know what I mean? I think that's what, you know, Drive to Survive did so great for Formula One is it showed people the personalities and what goes on behind the scenes and, you know, and some of the drama.
So when you watch on track things that happen, it means more to you. Yeah, no, the fastest way to get fans is to show them rivalries

and then also let them figure out what the GOAT debate is.

Like, who's the GOAT?

So who's your GOAT of racing?

And it could be any racing.

I would say the best series of drivers, in my opinion,

and this might get me in trouble, is IndyCar.

Okay.

Because there's 24 guys who race every week week and all 24 of them could win you know we're in formula one like it really is contingent upon what car you're in right you know what i mean you're seeing that with hamilton like you know he's won so many races but his car is not good and he's an eighth place guy right you know what i mean it doesn't mean that he's not as good of a driver as he was. Just the equipment mattered that much more.

So I think to win in a series like IndyCar where literally everybody's a top driver and it's really about your performance is tough.

And who's the best of all time? Indy.

Scott Dixon. He's a six-time champion.

There's so many good guys.

I don't know.

I know Andrade.

I'm an Andrade guy.

And Allender Jr.

Yeah.

I raced with Allender Jr. in a race.

and I out-qualified him, and that was the coolest thing in the world. I've got to take him off my goal list now.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm just saying.
So what do we have to do to get you in NASCAR? How many steps away are you from competing? I mean, I've been racing, like I said, I've been stuff to to prepare because obviously racing nascar or racing stock cars um although it's racing and i've been a race car driver it's like comparing olympic olympic diving and olympic swimming you know they both involve a pool but it they're very different you know what i mean like the the racing styles so i've been doing a lot of uh oval races and soccer races just to kind of to hone uh that craft. A lot of it has to do with sponsorship, obviously.
You know what I mean? I've got to raise a lot. It costs a lot of money to go racing.
And so that's kind of what we're looking for. And we'll see where it ends up.
Yeah, billionaires out there. Elon Musk is a listener of the show.
So Elon, if you want to sponsor Frankie. It's a small, small drop in the market.
Yeah. Finding your couch cushions.
Yeah. But you know, I, I, I'm as a race car driver, I know that there's things that I, I need to do for, for companies and for things.
And I'm, I'm willing to do all those things. You know what I mean? Like I want to, I want to be a race car driver.
Like I said, I'm not doing it as a, as a fluke or so whatever I've got to do to get in the car and and uh win races uh I'm I'm ready that's awesome all right so I had one last question it's a rowback question go to rowback.com put in code take for 20 off your first purchase r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com q-zips hoodies polos everything rowback.com all right last question true or false you want to work at barstool or you did at one point want to work at barstool i i i would love to you hit up dave didn't you is that how the story goes we i don't know how we got connected but i i i dm'd him and i was like dude like let me work at barstool is it what would you do and i was was like, I don't know. I mean, drive the barstool NASCAR, obviously.
There's a lot of people who've gotten jobs that way. Well, the fact that Dave asked you, what would you do here? That shows way more planning than most hires.
Yeah. He was actually screening you harder than he screens anyone else.
That was very, very tough. No, I just, I don't know.
You guys seem like you like you have a lot of fun. We do.
You do. I want to have fun.
Yeah. I mean, you have a crazy, like, career history with everything you've tried.
We should probably just add Barstow to it. Hey, you know, I'm still down.
Get him on the team. All right.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Frankie, this has been awesome.
We appreciate it. Best of luck in the racing.
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Okay, we're going to wrap up the show with our Mount Rushmore And the return of the man, Billy Football Billy, it's great to have you back Clap it up for Billy Welcome back, Billy Time spent, sussy, sussy spent You served it all How you feeling? Oh, wait Talking to the mic, Billy This is, here we go. It's great to be back.
Thank you guys for having me back. I've spent my time reflecting, and I'm very happy to be here.
All right. Yeah.
What did we learn over our summer vacation? I learned a good amount. Off the top of my head, Premiere.
I've been using a lot of Premiere. Okay okay what is that it's a editing software for videos oh hell yes yeah so really got into that um and also sort of to put it this is gonna be profound no uh i sort of learned that like.
Speak from the heart, Billy. Yeah.
This is a trust tree. Yeah, we're okay.
We're family. Believe it or not, we did miss you.
Yeah. And a lot of people missed you.
Not like every day, but we missed you at some points. There was definitely points.
Like when Zach Wilson's mom started fucking a bunch of moms, I missed you. That's hearsay.

Okay.

That's libel. I like that.
It was libel written on the Instagram comment, and anyone who says it is then committing slander. I do have a question about that for you, though.
Wait, wait, wait. He's got to say his profound thing.
Yeah, say your profound thing. It's hard to express into words, but probably just humility and, um, just, um, uh, sort of, you know, sometimes you get to head spaces that you can't really see what's right in front of you.
Right. And, uh, you're not really aware of things cause you're in the thick of it and, you know, you can't see out of the woods from the trees and, uh, sort of got a different perspective.
Sometimes you gotta, you know, get out of the situation you're in to realize what that situation actually is. And that's sort of what happened.
I like that. That's great.
That was supposed to be the point of it. And I feel like if that's how you're feeling coming out of it, then it's good for all of us.
Yeah. Yeah.
So in terms of the Zach Wilson thing, he, it was, he fucked his mom's friend, right? It wasn't his friend's mom. Right.
It was his allegedly his mom's friend Right It wasn't his friend's mom Right It was his Allegedly his mom's friend Cause that's it I was thinking about that The other day That would be a different story Correct You broke the code As John Morant would say If you fucked your friend's mom Well the thing that The reason why it was never clarified Is because it's a lie It was said by a scorned lover It's a very cool lie I wish people would lie about us Like that all the time. Just fucking milfs all the time.
I mean, there was some serious breach of bro code. By who? By his former roommate and teammate who he threw tons of touchdowns to.
Team Zach. And he's a commander now.
The other guy, I don't even know his name. He's a nobody.
Dax Milne? Yeah, the only reason that guy's on the commanders is because zach wilson and then he just goes that's a fact bangs his ex-girlfriend yeah and then they were getting so much flack for it that they just threw out that slander yeah homie hopper exactly so um but you so if it were true what would be your take then this is a hypothetical um i. I think that the last great quarterback the Jets have had, championship-winning quarterback, was Joe Namath.
And if it were true, but I don't think it is, Zach is an outstanding man on and off the field, and he is going to lead the Jets to more success. But if it were true, he's showing a little Joe Namath in him.
Joe Namath definitely had that dog in him.

And I think that's a Broadway Joe.

Are we getting a Broadway Zach who's about to bring a championship to the Jets?

I like that.

The Book of Mormon.

Yeah.

It's a longstanding play.

Exactly.

Okay, so any other takes that you missed?

Any stories that we talked about that you're like, oh, man, I wish I was on the show right now?

One thing I did realize over the break was you know those do uh oh first thing uh jack niklaus is pronounced jack you found like a like a bunch of clips from like you know 1920 it was it was actually impressive i think that those clips were the original way they pronounced his name and just over time it's been butch, and he just hasn't had the effort to correct everybody. Okay, so one problem, though, is you didn't watch those clips as a kid.
I may have. Okay, that you were watching with the sound off.
On mute, yeah. Well, maybe my grandparents said Niklaus, and that's how it was said.
Got it. Did you listen to the podcast at all, Billy? I get really bad FOMO.
Oh, okay. That's fair.
That's a totally fair answer. It was, yeah.
Yeah, it was actually a little sad when we were going out to play mini golf, and we were all driving out to the Hamptons to stay the night, and Billy had to take the cooler out of my car before we all hopped in the car, and we kind of caught eyes, and he was just like a sad puppy. But it was part of the suspension.
I know. I mean, I kept up with it.
I read through everything, kept the clips, but having to listen that whole time. Yeah, it's too painful.
It's too close to the heart. It's just like, because then I start talking, like trying to talk, and then I'm in a car by myself.
Oh, you try to chime in. Yeah, yeah.
That's what you should have done, actually. You should have like done practice rounds.
You should have recorded yourself. Yeah, like just chiming in.
I would have said this here. Yeah.
I mean, when you just talk to yourself alone in a car, you sort of. Yeah.
Anyway. That's a fair answer.
I actually think that's a totally fair answer to be like, I miss, you know, it is. It sucks to not be around here, so now you're back.
Yeah. But it was something that needed to happen, needed to experience that, and it's good to be back.
Welcome back. Welcome back.
Welcome back. Okay, we're glad that you're back.
We still got some big things coming this summer, so it's going to be fun. And we missed you for Mount Rushmore season, so I think it's been a great Mount Rushmore season so far.
Now we get the pairing of Jake and Billy, which is really what we wanted when we came up with Team Mount Rushmore. And so it's going to be Jake and Billy versus Hank and Liam versus me and PFT, and a perfect one to come back for for you guys to be combined as a team.
PFT came up with the idea. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of ways to kick things up.
So ways to kick things up Mount Rushmore. You guys should go first because you guys, you know, you've been gone and you're back.
Why don't you select the entire order, Billy? Yeah. Tell us which order we're going to go in.
So we have to go first? Yeah. We'll go clockwise.
Okay. So yeah.
Wait, counter or clockwise? Clockwise. Clockwise.
So Hubba second. Hubba Catcom.
Okay. By the way, just to specify, is it ways to kick things up a notch? A notch.
A notch. Sorry, I forgot a notch.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Because kicking things up is different.
Punting. Anyway.
Yeah. Okay.
Or like paying to your capo. Exactly.
Right. Paying your weekly fee.
The VIG. You could also say turn things up a notch.
That also works for this too. Kick things up a notch.
Turn things up a notch. Okay, here we go.
1-1. Billy and Jake back together.
How did the process go from your perspective, Jake? Billy shot down most of my ideas, but I'm going to hold my ground this year and say I'm picking one or two. Okay, nice, nice.
This one is actually Billy's idea. No, no.
It was not my idea. Jake came up with this.

You can look at the text chat. This is great.
It would be

very... So why are you

letting him pick 1-1? Well, he's going to pick...

This is his choice. Okay.
1-1.

But it's your return. But Jake just said

that it was Billy's idea.

Whose idea was it? Before I hear this

idea, I need to know whose idea it was.

It was Jake's. Okay.
Don't

lie on the first day back. I'm not lying.

It was Jake's idea,

then I gave him a suggestion to make it better.

Oh, I liked that. I did.
It's inception. Okay.
All right. Shotgunning a beer.
Okay. All right.
Good one. Good pick.
I barely couldn't say that. What was your first – oh, because of the problems he's had.
What was your – what was the – okay, all right. That's a good pick.
Good pick. Good pick, guys.
I said having that one more Coors Light. Having one more Coors Light.
Got it. Shotgunning a beer is definitely a way to kick things up a notch.
I like that pick. All right.
Hubba? Let's go with just levels. Levels? Good one.
Good pick. Good pick.
Playing levels. Playing levels.
Yes. Yes.
Okay. So we have two picks now.
I think our one-one is still on the board, PFT, if you want to say it. Remember, it was a thing that your first one.
My first one? Yep. Ordering shots.
Yep. Ordering shots.
Because you could be having cold ones at the table, but then one person's like, J-Mo?

Yeah.

And then you know that it's on.

Yeah.

And it's just like, okay, this is going to be a different type of night. When the first round of shots gets ordered, it's on.

Yeah.

And there is that one, there's a shots guy who can kind of overplay his hand.

Yeah.

The guy who's just always like, let's do shots, let's do shots.

But that perfect, yeah, like you maybe had like three or four beers and someone's like let's do a round of tequila yeah boom it's going if if the shot your first shot of the night is like your fourth drink at that point you know you're not going home before too yeah yeah the shot guy is either trying to do your first drink of the night is shots or you're all hammered and you're like barely hanging on he's like let, let's do shots. I feel like if you do shots the first drink of the night, that's not really kicking it up a notch.
No, it's you're starting at a high level. Yeah.
You could do shots if like if you're late joining the party and you want to play catch up. Right.
But that's still you're not turning up a notch. But if you order those shots after you've started, consider the notch kicked up.
Yes. Okay.
All right. Our second pick is going to be playing ACDC, any type of ACDC, any song that always kicks it up a notch.
They're just rock so fucking hard. And I feel like everyone, like when you hear ACDC back in black for those about to rock, Oh, Hank's give me the face.
Hank's doing his face. Hank, what, what part of ACDC do you not think kicks it up a notch when they write a song about- I think they have a couple songs.
If you just put on any ACDC song, there's a lot of people who'd be like, what the fuck is this? Listen. There's like three songs.
No, you want me to name six songs off the top of my head that you would know. Okay, you shook me all night long.
That's a notch. Yes.
Back in Black. That's a big notch.
Huge notch. Back in black.
Huge notch. Thunderstruck.
Yes. That's a great one.
Huge notch. Great one.
Huge notch on that one. For those about to rock.
For those about to rock. Huge notch.
Hell's Bells. Yes.
Jesus. Consider the notch elevated.
Yes. You want me to keep going on? That's five.
Dirty Deeds. Done Dirt Cheap.
Yeah. Six.
Dirty Deeds. Yeah.
Yeah. Different audiences.

You're speaking to the olders.

If I played ACDC right now, can we do it?

Or is it where we get suspended on YouTube and shit?

Dude, the notch would go up.

ACDC's on every pregame youth sports player.

Yes.

Yes.

All right.

Great pick.

He's trying to age shame us.

Money Talks.

Great song.

Notch kicked up.

Yes.

Who made who? Kicked up. That's a great pick.
Highway to Hell. You didn't even say Highway to Hell.
Oh, my God. Highway to Hell.
Jeez. See, all their songs are about rocking, hell, women.
Dude, if we're standing and being like, yo, we got to kick this up a notch. I want a beer right now.
Oh, and he goes, hey, Satan. Oh, TNT.
TNT! It's like their whole catalog is turning it up a notch.

I was wrong. Hand up.

If I threw your beer right now, you would chug it.

I would.

Asking nothing.

Let me be. I might just listen to ACDC

all day.

I think they're the number one

turn it up a notch band.

Like, they are the number one.

If you play ACDC, you just immediately

Thank you. I think they're the number one turn it up a notch band.
Like they are the number one. If you play ACDC, you just immediately are like, let's fucking go.
I want to hit someone. I want to drink.
I want to fucking do shit. I want to order shots after hearing that.
Good fix. Those are good.
It's a notch accelerator is what it is. If you do any of these other activities while listening to ACDC, the notch gets higher.
Yeah. I appreciate you being Sour P you just made us prove our point i wasn't being sourpuss hank at all that catalog that we just rattled off is insane i i i forgot about how many good songs i had and as a man of honor and integrity i'm admitting that okay all right shout out to me shout out hang uh our second pick maybe you're at the casino you're gambling you've been there for a while maybe things aren't going super good or maybe you're at the casino, you're gambling,

you've been there for a while, maybe things aren't going super good,

or maybe you're just kind of like middle of the pack,

not having the best night, not having the worst night.

You want to kick it up a notch, just put it all in black or red.

That's good.

Instant energy boost.

It gets the juices flowing, gets everyone excited.

If you win, then you're going to have a great night.

And let's just leave it at that.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

That actually gave me a good idea for another one.

Yeah, me too.

You're welcome.

Thank you. everyone excited if you win then you're gonna have a great night and let's just leave it at that yeah

yeah that's a good one that actually gave me a good idea for another one yeah me too you're welcome okay no it's a great pick that was great i should get your pick off of my pick okay all right uh jake and billy back to you two picks in a row uh letting the bodies hit the floor okay okay i mean And this song has been ingrained in our culture for, I think there's just one NFL hits highlights on YouTube that had this song connected to it. And I think it was the most viewed.
And I think every single male in America has watched it close to. And then if you put that song on, it's just, it's electric.
Yeah. There's the bodies are hanging the floor.
Yep. Yep.
And the floor Yep Yep And it's just Not even just the song Just letting the bodies hit the floor You can also do You can put a bad highlight reel To let the bodies hit the floor And it becomes great Exactly I think I did that with Will Compton's playoff Like his highlight reel From two years ago When he was going down Like as a gunner On kick return Yeah And he like made a couple tackles on it But it it was largely a special teams reel. Yeah.
But you add let the body sit the floor to it, and it's like, oh, fuck, this guy. Let's play off Willie.
He's about to fuck some shit up. If you put that on, I don't think anyone really actually plays it out loud.
Like in a weight room, it plays because it gets you hyped. But if you play that just in a bar or something, I don't think anyone's getting out of there.
Yeah. Yeah.
Good one. Good pick.
All right. Your third pick.
I just want to listen to ACDC right now. Yeah.
Just kicking up. When this happens in a football game, everything changes.
A surprise onside kick. Oh, great pick.
That's a great pick. Thank you.
Shit. It's just whether it helps you or hurts you,

you can always go back to that surprise onside kick,

and that changed everything.

Yeah, that does kick it up a notch for sure.

Great pick.

Thanks.

We do this all the time here.

Sunday nights we need to kick it up a notch before football.

Smelling salts.

Yeah, smelling salts kicks it up a notch for sure.

It does.

I miss the salts. Yeah, yeah, good pick.
I got a bunch on Amazon Prime Day. Oh, nice.
For this season. Thank you.
All right. Big Cat, for our next one, I think I'm going to go with number four on my list.
Yep. Yep.
Okay. Yep.
Adding cheese to it. Mm-hmm.
Putting cheese on an order. Anything.
Anything. Just like, yeah, let's throw some cheese on that.
Yep. Yeah, I'll take cheese with that.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Toss some cheese on that.
Maybe some pepper jack. Might be cheese.
Pepper jack really kicks it up enough. Melt some cheese on it.
Yes. Yes.
Adding cheese. Billy took exception to that.
I mean, if you eat something cheesy, you go to sleep right after. Great point, Billy.
That's like, that's like a great point, Billy. That's like a night ender.
It's now now and Billy's back it kicks you you guys shame me for any you know any disagreement it's like I thought this the Mount Rushmore is embracing debate no it is no I get scared to I don't shame you for disagreements I shame you for going like this I shame you for having a bad opinion voice your disagreement people can't see your sourpuss face you need a voice your disagreement if you eat you will fall asleep. Not necessarily.
Yeah, but that might be more the bread and the breaded chicken, isn't it? I know, but the cheese puts you down. But adding cheese to any dish kicks it up.
I don't know. I'm not talking about...
Cereal? Wait, wait, wait. Billy is conflating the kicking it up a notch with wanting to stay up till 4 a.m.
drinking beers. That's not necessarily the case.

So in this case, you're kicking the entire meal up a notch by adding queso to it.

The meal is what gets elevated.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

So our last pick, PFT, I like what you just texted me.

I'm going to tweak it just a little. It's going to be putting a monster bet on like a prime time or big game when you're like all right Sunday night football let's go fucking all in here Monday night football or like there's a huge basketball game whenever you do that it kicks it up a notch kicks the whole day up a notch the whole life up a notch your game of the year just feels different game of the year is like I'm like scared to say one word dude I get excited just sometimes Idream about like, oh, I'm going to do a game of the year.
Just that feeling, that rush you have where you're like, this is going to be awesome. We're going to watch this game.
And we got like a real confident pick in this game. If you're ever feeling like half in, half out, like nonplussed about a primetime game, boom.
Just put a monster bet on it. Guess what? Responsibly.
Now it's the most important game of all time the boys are over let's all group group bet together on a big fucking side boom kicking it up a notch all right your last pick hank our last pick it's group it's a team team effort uh good reminder thank you uh our last pick is going to be committing a crime. Oh! That's good.
That's good. That does kick it up a notch.
Yeah, it kicks it up a notch. It could be something minor.
Even just like a light goes yellow, then red, but you're like, fuck it. I'm just going to speed right through anyway.
It could be like maybe the bartender's not giving you any looks. You reach over the bar or something.
Anything. Or it could be high level, like robbing a bank, robbing a gas station, whatever it may be.
Yeah. yeah committing a crime kicks it up a notch 10 out of 10 times my theory about bank robbers is i think i think you get away with robbing banks way more than we're told because nobody would rob a bank we only hear on the news about a bank robber getting caught you never hear about the guys that rob banks that don't get caught they don't want to be embarrassed yeah i'm pretty sure like what is 60%? I think we might have looked it up a while ago.
I think like 60% of bank robberies go unsolved. Yeah, some dance kid.
It's a great business model. Yeah, okay, good one.
Thank you. Oh, that was our honorable mention.
We have some good honorable mentions. Go ahead.
This one's deep in the bag, but historically, when you really wanted to kick kick it up a notch and like you had a bunch of dudes and you really wanted to motivate them and get them going you burn the boats burning the boats many times in history guys were like oh we want to go home we want to not keep it going and one dude was just like we're burning the burning the fucking boats. Put cash in the ceiling.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cash to seal. Cash to seal.
We're coming back. Yeah.
Yeah. Burning the boats is good.
When I was in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, that was like our motto for the trip. We just kept saying burn the boats.
Like it didn't matter what we were doing. Yeah.
It's just, if you say burn the boats, it gets the boys pumped up. Yes.
Yes. Okay.
All right. Honorable mentions.
That was a good Mount Rushmore. Honorable mentions.
We did have on our list that missed the cut for us is just putting all the windows down or taking off the sunroof. That always kicks it up a notch when you're driving on the highway.
I was going to steal Game of the Years from you, but I didn't, so shout out to me. Wow.
Really? Yeah. Doubling down in general, Just when you double down on anything.

Yeah.

I had one similar, but I...

When you do when you're supposed to, it doesn't feel like you're...

No, it does, though.

It doesn't feel like it's risky.

Even when you do it, you're still kicking up a notch.

11 against a 6.

So doubling down either in the course of a hand of blackjack,

that's kind of kicking it up a notch.

But if you just decide to double your bet...

Yeah, or you win a bet and then you just double it. Yeah, you let it rise.
I thought you were talking about 11 versus 6. Yeah, letting it ride.
Letting it ride. Yeah, letting it ride.
Doubling 12. Yep.
Yep, doubling on 12. Cocaine, do it responsibly.
What else? I had another football one. Turning on Sandstorm.
Yep. Yeah.
I had going for two in the first quarter. Yeah.
Yeah. Steelers, 8-0.
I like that. Flea flickers, just in general, kick it up a notch.
Feels like it does. A gadget play in general.
Yeah, a gadget play, kicks it up a notch, just kind of fucks the whole flow up. Dessert.
Dessert? I had that on my list, but I had. Like, sometimes you're like, I'm not going to get dessert, but dessert but when you're having a dessert night i mean you probably have dessert nights all the time but like sometimes it's like yeah that was uncalled for but like some people it's like there's you literally were in my house and i gave you ice cream you said do we have ice cream and i was like actually yeah we do because we always do yeah that was a rhetorical question yeah oh but yeah uh like sometimes like you.
Yeah. Oh, but yeah.
Like sometimes it's like you go to dinner. If it's like a weeknight, you're like, yeah, I'm good with dessert.
But if it's a dessert night, it's like you're kicking it up a notch. I think lighting a dessert on fire is cool too.
Lighting anything on fire. Yeah.
Yeah. Good point.
Lighting anything on fire. Starting a fire.
Shooting into the air. Yep.
That kicks it up a notch. Beer before noon just kicks it up a notch you know like that's because the notch is so low that just one beer before noon is like billy don't get ideas uh that's like you know you kick it up a notch when you're the first guy if you're like on a trip or something and you just crack that first beer being the first person to crack the beer on like a guy's trip that always kicks it up a notch the rest of the day is going to be effortless at that point yeah yeah smooth sailing yeah i had uh steve adazio videos yeah yeah or uh i think billy would agree waka is like yeah waka yeah waka faka yeah it's very good that's good turning on gremlin mode yeah yeah um what else you guys probably don't know that song yet it's a kind of underground Hot sauce in general.
Yeah. I also, this one, you guys can tell me if this one's way off, but I think just throwing a ball around kicks it up a notch.
When you're, like, maybe sitting around and you get a ball and then it's just like a ball enters a room, because you know you can't, like, you can't just not throw a ball around if you have a ball, and then it slowly, like, becomes like a game, and then you're tossing it and chucking it. I think that always kicks it up a notch.
Yeah. I was going to like, guess the blood flowing.
Yeah. Like if you're all just sitting around and you're like, let's go outside.
Yeah. Like if I had a tennis ball right now, I was checking around.
You guys would, all of you in this room would be like, yo, pass that to me. And then it becomes like a, a thing.
Yeah. Big booty mix 13.

Any big booty mix.

That's for the younger crowd.

Yep.

That's a good one.

Shout out to the friends.

Yep.

When you were younger, a belly flop or a cannonball at the pool party.

Pushing someone in the pool always kicks it up a notch.

Yeah, you can't do that anymore with phones. I know.

You can't really prank somebody who's fully clothed.

But that does kick it up a notch because everyone's like, oh, who's going to get pushed in next?

Yeah.

Panting someone.

I'll see you next time. You can't do that anymore with phones.
I know. You can't really prank somebody who's fully clothed.
But that does kick it up a notch because everyone's like, oh, who's going to get pushed in next? Yeah. Panting someone.
Oh, great one. Tearing their pockets off the back of their jeans.
Yes. Farting in public.
What? Okay. Explain that one.
Go on. I don't know.
Just like, yeah, I guess maybe it doesn't kick it up a notch. Is that a rush? You get a rush from that? Yeah.
Back force. All right, I take that back.
Oh, no.

It's honorable mention.

Yeah.

Pulling into a McDonald's randomly on a road trip.

Kicking it up a notch?

Yeah.

Nah.

But is it random on a road trip?

No, because everyone's like, oh.

That's like expected.

No, but it's like you usually want to get like a.

Pulling into a strip club on a road trip.

Ooh, that's good.

Mm-hmm.

Going to a strip club definitely kicks it up a notch. Like, I feel like if you're going on a road trip, then it's expected that you're going

to pull into a McDonald's at some point.

Yeah.

That's a. Going to a strip club definitely.
Like I feel like if you're going on a road trip, then it's expected that you're going to pull into a McDonald's at some point.

Yeah.

A surprise strip club visit.

Yeah.

Also, it's just a surprise road trip.

Kicks it up a notch.

Like, let's just fucking go here.

Going driver off the deck.

Kicks it up a notch.

Driver on par three.

Kicks it up a notch.

Dry scooping pre-workout.

Kicks it up a notch. Sniffing pre-workout kicks it up a notch sniffing pre-workout sniffing glue responsibly yeah um what else what else eating a cheesesteak before a podcast i think that turns it down right because then you have to yeah yeah because the cheese the cheese on it turns it down adding guac to a burrito kicks it up even though it's extra speeding yep i guess that would be under your crimes but yeah running from the police yeah yeah we're helping hank here he's just happy i mean that's a good pick the crimes yeah crimes was a great pick it was a fucking great pick memes head-butting Yeah.
Getting in a fight. Kicks it up a notch.
Always. Okay.
Anything else? I think that's good. That was a good Mount Rushmore.
Kicking it up a notch. That's all.
I just want to listen to ACDC, though. Yeah.
Kicking it up a fucking notch. Just fucking get crazy with it.
All right. Well, that is our show.
Should we do it? Dragula. Dragula.
Dragula.'s a huge huge miss morbin morbin yeah it's morbin time you get up and you're you're like i'm gonna morbin today i'm always definitely kicking it up a notch morbin feels always feels oh morbin freeman ordering pancakes for table does kick it up a notch it does you know because it does just like like, hey, we're all, we're going That could be just, if you just are like

Let's get every appetizer, that kicks it up a notch

Yeah, yeah, doing an apps dinner

Yeah, being like, I got this

And then getting like eight appetizers, that kicks it up a notch

The pancakes move, I don't know if it's kicking up a notch

But it makes everybody else at the table

A little bit more calm

Because everyone was thinking, oh, I might get the pancakes

But then when somebody orders it for the table

Then you're like, okay, I don't have to worry about ordering the pancakes

Thank you. everybody else at the table a little bit more calm because everyone was thinking, oh, I might get the pancakes.
Yeah.

But then when somebody orders it for the table, then you're like, we're good.

Okay.

I don't have to worry about ordering the pancakes anymore.

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

Let's do numbers.

Great to have you back, Billy.

You're back in the fold.

You're back in black.

I'm going to take 69.

Back in black.

Have you guys hit?

96.

69's hit four times.

I think it was three.

Oh, yeah. You're right.
It was three times

was on the computer, so didn't count 26

69 27 Hank 96 get my real pick is 21

You turn it on Billy. I think it's unplugged on your end.
Nope. It's lit up.
Hank, have you ever... No.
You've never gotten this, right? 88. The pool.
Patrick Kane's gonna get traded. Otters are necrophiliacs.
Love you guys. That's true.
They fuck dead otters? Yeah, they're fucked up. Otters are like serial killers.
Whoa. Don't they hold hands, though? No, they're not cool at all.
I guess that would be like the normal side of the scene. How do they hear? Investigate otters.
Do they have sea lion ears? Yeah, they're external. That's what we got to call anyone who has external ears.
Those have sea lion ears? Yeah, they're external.

That's what we got to call anyone who has external ears.

Those are sea lion ears.

Ryan Whitney is half sea lion.

Sea lions have internal ears.

No, no.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong, Billy.

You don't listen.

Seals have internal ears.

Sea lions have external ears.

Wow.

Don't you feel foolish.

So when you said that you read all the stuff that we put out. That's also not true.

That's not true.

We got caught in a lie first day back.

Yeah, look it up.

Look it up.

You were wrong.

Yeah, damn is right.

Yeah.

Have some of that.

Sea lions also try to attack people much more than people think.

Yeah, but they have external ears.

Yeah, I just checked it out.

They're also very cute.

Love you guys.

Dangerous.

I'm talking away.

I don't know what I'm to say.

I'm saved anyway.

Today's another day to find you.

Shying away.

I'll be coming for your love again.

Shying away.

I'll be coming for your love again. That's the same.
Bye. Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone.

Take on me Take me on

I'll be gone in a direction.

All the things that you say is delightful, just to blame my worries away.

You're all the things I've got to remember.

You're shying away, I'll be coming for you anyway. You're're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me up I'll be gone.
I'll be gone

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