Open Championship With Shane Bacon, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Golf Guys With Frankie & Trent + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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On today's part of my take, we have Shane Bacon live from the Open Championship. I always want to call it the British Open, talking about St.
Andrews, the course, Tiger. He followed Tiger and Max.

We also have our good friends Frankie and Trent, the four play boys, on to do the Mount Rushmore of worst golf guys, which was very, very good.

We're going to talk a little Open Championship.

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Today is Friday, July 15th. And Tiger Woods is dead.
Yeah, spiritually. I mean, what are you shooting? Emotionally? Five over, six over.
Yeah. Something like that.
It's tough to watch. It's tough to watch.
I don't like watching Tiger struggle like this, but I do still like watching him play golf. Yeah.
So he's still out there. He's out there.
He's trying. This whole tournament just seems like it's all setting up for Rory.

It's giving Rory.

I'm going to knock on wood.

Is that right, Hank?

Yes.

Unfortunately.

Yeah.

It feels like it's Rory's time, right?

He's been playing some of the best golf of his career, as we've said on this show.

It's a big moment.

It's got to be won by a big player.

He's been defending the sanctity of the PGA. this can't be a random tournament winner it will be it can't be they'll just be random cameron i don't know why all the camerons are good at golf cam smith isn't random yeah no i know cam young cam young cam young is the one who's leading right now cam smith is in third yeah that's what i'm saying the camerons are just it's it's the most golf name out.
Just have a kid named Cameron, they'll probably win an Open Championship. Scotty Cameron.
Scotty Cameron. Yeah.
Just list all your, Cameron Kirk, right? No, it's a putter. Kirk Cameron.
Kirk Cameron. Yeah.
Cameron Kirk, whatever. Cam Newton.
Cam Newton. Cam Girls.
Yep. A lot of Cam's.
Mm-hmm. Bom.
But the Open Championship always fucks me up because of the time change I just can't The fact that they're playing while we're sleeping My brain is a pee I can't understand They started teeing off They started teeing off at 1am Which is insane But I accidentally discovered A type of hack that you can use When you're watching golf when the open is on. I woke up in the middle of the night at like 2.30, had to go pee.
On my way back to bed, I was like, oh, my God, the open's on right now. So I took a six-hour golf nap while the open was on in my bedroom.
It was incredible. That is incredible.
I've never taken longer than probably like a 30-minute golf nap before. This was about six hours.
Just set up your TV to automatically turn on right when it starts and just keep sleeping. It's actually really nice because in the open, they always have the most foreign correspondents that are in the booth.
So not only do you get like the Nick Faldos, but you get like a Scottish brogue accent in there. There's one guy that was from the Netherlands, I'm pretty sure.
Love it. It was really nice.
It was a very soothing way to fall back asleep and then wake up. Yeah.
So we got Open Championship going on. It feels like this is – we've got to really embrace this because this is the last big thing besides like the Home Run Derby and the All-Star game.
That's kind of it. Then we're falling off a cliff.
Yeah. We've got to really – It's going to be a long summer.
Let's hug it. Let's hug it.
Let's hold it. Let's just kiss it.
When's the Hall of Fame game? When is the Hall of Fame game? Football's back. Because then the week after that, I think hard knock starts.
Yeah, true. Then we're back.
Then we're all the way back. August 4th, Raiders-Jags.
There we go. We're right there.
We have like two weeks to get through. Yeah, we're right there.
We also had maybe the biggest football news that could ever be announced this week was the white Bengal helmet. Yeah.
Which is so sick. It is pretty cool.
Have you seen it? It's very cool. It's so cool.
It's awesome. I know this might be grasping for straws here, but the white Bengal helmet definitely got me pumped.
That was big news in my life. No, it was.
It was. And when they first tweeted it out, they messed up so you didn't even get the video or any of the pictures and nobody had any idea what was going on.
The white bangle helmet in the snow is going to be incredible. It's going to be like you're playing against a team of Finnish snipers.
They're just hiding. You're not going to be able to see them.
It's incredible. So I'm all in on the white bangle helmet.
That's the big news of the the day there's another bit of news that came out in the nfl um i'm gonna do something i rarely do on this show and hank i hope you'll appreciate it i'm gonna go out of my way to defend tom brady yeah i'm going to i'm gonna stand on the table for tom brady thank you for your service in advance he got done dirty yeah by a headline six by by a headline it was it's classic new york post clickbait just trying to get people to do the quote tweets on it um the headline yeah well it was very easy to do yeah but then i clicked on it and then i felt bad so i held back because i read the article the headline is tom brady my wealth is the hardest thing about parenting sounds Sounds bad, right? Yeah, before you tell me everything, I saw the headline, and I consciously was like, I guarantee there's context here that isn't bad, but I'm not going to spend the time to click on this. I'm just going to quote tweet.
So what was your quote tweet, Tom? It was just thoughts and prayers. Okay, yeah, that's good.
Yeah, very basic. That's solid.
So in a way, I could imagine why that would be a completely appropriate headline, because Tom Brady has literally everything else going for him. So maybe the worst part of his life might actually be how rich he is.
Yeah, he's too rich to a parent. Because he's got everything else.
Right. But I read the article.
He said, we have people that clean for us. We have people that make our food.
We have people that drive us to the airport.

If we need that, we get off a plane and there's people waiting there for us and we get ushered

in.

That's my kid's reality, which is the hard part to say, guys, this is not the way reality

really is.

What can we do about that?

So teaching his kids how their life is like a fairy tale, right?

But don't expect your life to be like, this is not real.

You should appreciate every second you have of this. And then it's not always going to be like this but it is it might not be for his kids though what well i'm sure they'll still be comfortable but i don't think they're going to have people waiting on him hand and foot as adults when they get off planes i i think if you're a child of of billionaires because they have a bill they have a b do they have a b i think that combined they absolutely have a b i know giselle makes more than him i have a feeling that their life will always be in this is not shaming whatsoever but i have a feeling their life will always be pretty comfortable he also said uh he wants to make their kids relatable by creating experiences that are more along the lines of what most kids go through which i think that's fair it's probably tough to have your kid most of your if you're at the tom brady level your children's friends you're never going to know like okay who's friends with my son because of the brady factor that goes along with it you have to give them ways to like relate to other kids their age right and so i i'm going out of my way to say that tom brady got done dirty by this headline he absolutely got done dirty and i i also just played into it because i was like yeah i know i know this headline's bad so he needs so tom brady needs to just give his kids uh those moments that are relatable to everyone else yeah a little tip tom brady you could do what my dad did when uh my birthday one year he i asked for a playstation he got bought me the holder for it oh that's i opened it and i was like what and he's like i thought that's what you wanted he gave me the playstation later but it was it was fucked up it was humbling for a second the moment i was like what the fuck yeah this sucks he's like no no that's the playstation it does it must be it must be tough to be a dad though and you're like okay i have literally everything in the world to give my kids but i need to also toughen them up how do you toughen kids up yeah because i think like any any dad would be like i want them to have it better than i did the fact is like i don't think that it's possible for tom brady's kids to have a better life than he did yeah yeah i mean it's good i yeah now that you've read that story i actually do kind of feel bad for him because he's right it It is like, you have to basically say, I don't want my kids

to be douchebags. I don't want them to be the rich

asshole kids. So how do I do

that without also

Tom Brady's not going to change

his life. I think Tom Brady should give us

all of his money. And that way, for your

kids. Just let us hold it.
Yeah, for your kids.

For a year. It's not because we want

it. It's for the sake of your family.

Take them to podcasting camp. Make them bloggers.
That's actually not a bad idea. School hard knocks.
Part of my take fantasy camp. Yeah.
We'll toughen up your kids for you for a small, small fee of $20 million. I love it.
We will make fun of your kids and make them get us coffee. Just roast them.
Yeah. Probably suspend them.
Yeah. Make them stay up late watching football.
We'll do all of that. $20 million.
That's actually really nice of us. So, Hank, what do you think about that? What do you think about me and Big Cat putting on the cape for Tom Brady? I love it.
I mean, it's necessary. He's one of the most hated and unnecessarily hated just for being successful people in the history of this planet.
Well said. Jesus.
Him and Jesus. Well say him more than jesus probably yeah yeah there was a lot less people there was a lot less people when jesus was around yeah tom ready was retired for way longer than three days yeah he still came back yep um all right other stories deandre might be a pacer they sign an offer sheet i feel like the sons will be stupid not to match it but they like them, though.
Well, the Suns are stupid. That's the other part of that.
The Suns are stupid. I think that what happened at the end of the playoffs last year, I think that's the end of the rope with them.
Yeah. So anything else going on? It's light right now.
Mount Rushmore is going to be great. People love the part of my bake.
We might have to do another one on Grit Week because we will be out in Rado. It occurred to me when we were talking about the next white American high school basketball player to be drafted first overall.
I think we just all completely forgot about Barron Trump. Ooh.
He's a soccer player, though. Yeah, but what if it was...
He's a striker. But he's like 6'8", right? He's still growing.
So what if it was Barron Trump that broke the streak?

I saw a picture, by the way, of Chet Holmgren's ankles,

and I don't know if they were photoshopped or not.

They looked like Tiger Woods' legs.

They were...

His foot didn't fit in his shoe.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

Was that photoshopped?

I think it was real.

Wow.

I do, too.

That's crazy.

It is wild. I mean, I feel like...
Looks like you can put your fingers around his leg yeah it also feels like every baron trump picture's photoshopped it's true which they might be who knows they're funnier if they are yeah right right uh okay anything else jake anything cool happening in the sports world anything wild i don't think so i don't say anything wild we had a recurring guest retire today oh uh mitchell schwartz ah oh yeah officially so he was out last year with a back injury but but great career yeah oh he did yeah i want to see this real quick it was four four no taps yeah i'm not reading all that bro i like you but i'm not reading what is it like i'm happy for you i'm sorry that happened yeah but i ain't reading all that though whatever. I like you, but I'm not reading all that.
What is it? I'm happy for you or I'm sorry that happened?

Yeah, but I ain't reading all that, though.

Oh, man.

It's a long four, too.

It's a very long four.

That sucks because I feel like his career got cut short a little bit.

It did.

He had a good career, though.

It seems like he's happy. And he went out.

His last game was the Super Bowl, was it not?

I think he got hurt right after that. Maybe not.
Maybe he played a little the next year. He's had a good career, though.
Either way, he won a Super Bowl and flags fly forever. That's a fact.
Him and Jeff are going to be doing a podcast together real soon. Yeah.
Gee off. What was that? That was my time for band practice alarm.
But that's fine. I'm here with you guys.
I've been setting an alarm. We're jamming right here.
Yeah, I'm proud of myself for that, Jake. You'd be proud of me.
I've been setting myself reminder alarms. It's great.
And I'm always like, but my problem is I don't put what the alarm is for. Right, I don't do that either.
So then I'm always like, what am I supposed to do at 4.57? Well, you can set an alarm. I don't set reminders.
I put it in the calendar. Oh, I just set alarms, and then I just get, I have a constant, like, string of alarms going off every day, and I don't know what they're for.
Yeah. I do that, too.
It's like a memento. And I usually do it for, like, a minute before, and then I'm like, fuck.
You're like, oh, no. I have one minute.
Clock is ticking. Yeah.
What was I supposed to do right now? I've got, I think, like, 30 different alarms set up in my phone. They're all off.
But if I need to set an alarm for the next day, I'll scroll through one of these and then figure out which one is closest to the time I need to hit the alarm. Why? DFT has legitimately 30.
That is the most amount of alarms I've ever seen. I like that.
I have like four. I don't want to waste my time creating a new alarm.
You just change. Click edit.
No, but he's so close to it. Yeah, I've got ones that...
Hey, give me a time that you would need an alarm for right now. 9.17.
9.17 a.m. or p.m.? P.m.
Oh, p.m. Okay, we're mixing up, so let me scroll down.
How does 10 p.m. sound? No.
Yeah. How does 8 p.m.
sound? You're in the neighborhood. You have more than 24.

You're in the neighborhood.

I should get 24.

You should get every minute.

Every minute.

And then I just, I'm one touch.

And you just press on.

That's efficiency.

Yeah.

600.

I also have 22,000 unread emails.

That I have no problem with.

That's crazy.

But alarms, I think, just edit.

You're the type of guy who probably, when you have extra time on your microwave,

you just clear it.

You got to use that.

What do you mean?

I'll save the time on the microwave.

Yeah, you do.

But you don't like to see the clock?

No.

If I use the microwave for two minutes,

let's say I'm making popcorn three minutes,

and I can hear that it's done with 30 seconds left,

I'll save those 30 seconds and then use it for the next thing.

I like to see the clock.

That's usually how I decide how long to heat something up for,

is whatever time is left on the microwave.

Yeah, right.

I put it in and then just hit start.

Save it for later.

I like to click stop as it's hitting zero and get the perfect stop.

That is exhilarating.

You also got to preheat your microwave.

No, no.

That's why you hit the one, the minimum power, and you got to let it go for like 30 seconds. You got to warm it up.
Not me. That's a fact.
My house will blow up. Why? I just think that'll happen.
For preheating the microwave? Yeah. Is it still true that if you're like...
You're microwaving microwaves. If you stand in front of the microwave, it's bad.
I just went into Hank's brain for a second and completely understood what he was saying. And it's the funniest thing of all time.
You're heating up heat. That's not good.
That's a bad combination. You have the Hadron Collider or whatever in your house.
Pretty much. I was always told not to stand in front of microwaves because then I won't be able to have kids.
Yeah, well, I'm asking that because the microwave in my house is the same height as my kid.

You got to skip.

Yeah, so he's always just standing in front of it.

Is that bad?

I'm sure technology has improved so much in the last 30 years.

You're good.

All right, fine.

No problem.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest live from the Open Championship in St. Andrews.
It is Shane Bacon. You can see him on the Golf Channel.
He also has a podcast where his podcast host ditched him. His name is Max Oma.
Yep. Ditched you.
Shane, thank you for joining us. Let's talk Lynx golf because we don't understand it whatsoever.
So I guess you said you've caddied at St. Andrews before.
You know the course very well. Give us the background so that we just want to make sure that you're an expert.

Yeah, so I appreciate you guys having me on.

Big fans, even UPFT, thank you so much.

You look great.

And Big Cat, I wanted to say you look excellent in your golf attire the other day.

You look very much like a golfer, super dialed.

Yeah, when I was done with school back in 2006, a buddy and I were golf fans, kind of golf nerds.

And we'd sit on the roof of our house in college and talk about, like, what are we going to do when we get done with college as everybody does? Are we going to go to grad school? Are we going to get a job? And we were like, why don't we go to Scotland? That'd be kind of cool. And we flew to Scotland and didn't have any plans.
He knew one guy in St. Andrews.
And we met a lady named Ivy who let us stay in her house for 40 pounds a week. And it was five extra pounds if she did our laundry., we obviously did that.
And, uh, and we got a job, we had a job at St. Andrews day number two of living in Scotland.
Will and I were caddying on the old course and apologies to those early groups because we had absolutely no idea what we were doing. I think we had a relative idea what we were doing in the back end of it, but yeah, it was, you know, three us looping around and we caddied twice a day, carry a bag for whomever.

And yeah, it was wild.

So I feel like I'm dialed enough to talk about Lease Golf,

especially this golf course. How many times do you think that you've walked the course there?

I was talking about this with a buddy of mine yesterday,

probably a hundred times.

I'd say it's probably a relatively decent guess.

So more than most of the guys

and probably more than most of the caddies out here this week so again you know put it on my like uh you know wikipedia page or whatever that's that's great though that's a great story and that that also just makes me think like how much it must have sucked for the guy who saved up all this money went out to st andrews trip of a lifetime and you're like hey i'm shane i just graduated college this is my third day from arizona so the funny the funny part about that was if it was early in their trip they were and they were americans they'd be super pissed if they got me but if it was late in the trip they were kind of happy to see an american because they dealt with scottish caddies for you know talking trash because scottish caddies will give it to you straight i mean they don't sugarcoat anything they tell you when it's a bad shot I mean they get on you about a bad shot you know when you hit a bad putt they'll tell you it was a shitty putt so you know when they'd get me on the back end of the trip they were relatively happy that's funny so what are the secrets of the course give me a secret that nobody knows a secret of course one of them is on the 17th hole so that's like the famous hole where you hit it over the hotel you know where you kind of roll her off the hole, there you go. Look at you.
You're so dialed. You actually want to miss it left of the green.
You know, everybody hits it on the green, and it's so hard and fast, it goes over the green onto the road. The play is you actually hit it on 18T, and it's a pretty easy chip shot.
So, again, not super simple when there's people standing over there, but if you were playing for a score like playing in an open today, you want to bail it out left and give left and give yourself a pretty easy check that's interesting because like if you're going up to 17 and you're hitting your tee shot and there's a crowd on the eight like surrounding the 18th tee box you might second guess yourself and be like yeah it kind of be a big weird thing if i hit into that crowd but that's you're saying that's actually the smart play to make well and then you have to say it immediately right i meant to do that it's like calling your It's like calling your bank shot. Yeah, it's a big key to sport, right? I mean, you tell everybody you meant to do it.
So, yeah, you walk up there and you apologize to the guys and you go, my caddy actually told me to hit it here. So when we're watching this this weekend, at what point does the wind become just an insane problem? Because I feel like that's a big part of Lynx golf and especially golf in England and Scotland and Ireland where it's like you'll turn on one day and they're like yep no one's gonna be able to hit anything because the wind is so bad is there like a mile per hour or direction that we should look out for like oh everyone's fucked yeah 30 mile an hour I think is kind of my number on this golf course if it gets to 30 miles an hour I think that's when you might see play suspended.
If you guys remember, I mean, you go back to 2015 and they suspended play at the open at St. Andrews because the winds were up so high.
So they're not expecting them to be that nasty this week. But when it got to 30 mile an hour, it was brutal and balls wouldn't stay on the greens and they blow off and things like that.
I mean, even when I was caddy, you know, not like in open conditions, they would potentially get nasty like that. So when it gets to 30, golf kind of turns from fun to no fun.
Yeah. Does the wind help in a certain regard? Or would most of these guys out there rather have it be completely still? I, this is going to sound like a big J, by the way.
I talked to Rory McIlroy about this this week. I asked Rory this question.
I said, would you want it to be up or would you want it to be relatively benign? And he said, always benign. I would rather it not blow even downwind because it's so firm and hard this week over other opens at St.
Andrews. This is the firmest and the fastest we've seen it.
And so even when it's downwind, you simply just can't hit it short enough. You know, you'll hit it 30 yards short of the green.
It'll still kick over. So they would prefer no wind.
I think all of us would prefer a lot of wind because that's when it gets a bit chaotic and this golf course as historic as it is and it's one of my favorite courses in the world it actually needs a little bit of wind because if it's not blowing i mean these guys will shoot zero here over the weekend yeah so you followed max it was fitzpatrick max and tiger today right it's a tough day yeah so what happened with tiger today like what was it just his you know was it fatigue was it he just missed a couple shots here or there did he did it feel at any moment like he had it uh you know he felt comfortable and confident in his shooting it didn't ever feel like he had it and the the moment i knew he didn't really was on one i mean he missed about a four footer for bogey after he hit that second shot in the burn in the water in front of the green. And those are putts that, you know, I mean, we all know Tiger makes those all the time.
It just felt like he was super off with his speed. And the weird thing about that was that was what Tiger was practicing all week.
I mean, on 18 on Monday, he was sitting in front of the green, 20, 30 yards short of the green, hitting putt after putt after putt. And on every green you saw him practice on, that was the main focus.
And his speed today was dreadful. I mean, he was leaving every 30, 40, 50 footer, eight to 10 feet short, and then he wasn't converting those.
So the speed was off. It's interesting.
We look at Tiger. I don't know if you guys feel this way about Tiger, But we always look at Tiger like he is, in fact, a machine that he doesn't have jitters or that he doesn't think about golf tournaments or it doesn't matter as much to him when he tees off.
And you got to remember, this guy's played, what, two tournaments this year and didn't even finish one of them. I mean, he WD in one tournament.
So getting kind of the feel of playing tournament golf matters even to somebody like Tiger Woods. And when he was leaving those long putts short, that was kind of the feeling I got, was it just felt like he wasn't quite understanding the speed in those tournament conditions.
And it just felt like every putt he was hitting was having a hard time getting to the hole and coming up 10 feet short. You said burn, and I think I know what a burn is.
But can you explain to me from like, what's it? It's just the difference between a burn and a creek. Yeah.
I think it's just Scottish. I think it's just like the Scottish term for it.
You know, it sounds way cooler to call it a burn. I totally agree with you.
The other thing about a burn is the balls. They don't like hang up.
You know, if you like watch the masters on 13, which has a creek in front of the green, sometimes the balls will like stay up on the grass and you can hit it. Not the case of the burn.
The Scottish don't deal with that bullshit. If you're in the burn, you're in the burn.
You're in the burn. You're burned.
You're burned. You're burned.
You got burned. Now, Max, the guy who ditched you, he's a friend of ours.
How did he play today? Should we feel confident that – because I know I think he was, what, plus one or maybe even. How did he look and do you think he is going to have some confidence going into the next three days made nothing and I think when you make nothing you can have confidence the next day because that means you hit it good and he had you know kind of the same thing as Tiger with par putts Max had 10 to 15 footers for birdie basically the whole day and nothing will it really dropped so again kind of leaning back on how well I've played this year if you're Max Homa I feel like he's got to go into tomorrow feeling like i can go out there and shoot a number because again he had probably had 12 putts from inside of 15 feet for birdie and made one of them so when did you say that he ditched you on the podcast it was late last year so we uh we had a thing rocking and rolling and then max you know it was like winning and finishing in the top 10 and big tournaments and everything like that and uh and he was like hey man every time i do this podcast i have to talk about my rounds and when i play bad i have to talk about my bad golf and i don't want to do that anymore and i thought that was relatively fair yeah i guess i mean do you talk about like you talk about your bad podcast pft what you do when you have a bad podcast all the time the bad podcasts actually become so bad that they turn into being good podcasts yeah okay okay so it's so bad it's so it's good yeah yeah when we screw up and we like have a terrible podcast it becomes like almost better in a weird way because we're that good we're that consistently good you know what i mean like yeah you bring it back yeah right you're like tiger in his prime you a round, you know, when you guys, can I ask you guys a links golf question? Sure.
As you guys are kind of watching the golf and everything like that. Dimple heads experts.
Does it do it for you guys? Like when you watch St. Andrews, does it make sense to you? Do you feel like you need to be here to see it? Or do you just enjoy it? Cause it's a major and all the guys are playing.
I like it a lot because it's different. I would not want to watch it weekend week out.
I think that think that would get very very boring but seeing just how fucked up these courses are and how deep the bunkers are it's the courses are designed for pain but in a much different way from u.s open courses right which you know they they let the rough talk they let the rough sing at the u.s open on these courses it's like you're playing golf on the surface of the moon which i kind kind of love. Yeah.
I don't understand how it's hard. And this is very stupid.
That's a fair point. We talk about it with Frankie and Trent coming up in the Mount Rushmore.
But I don't. I watch it because I'm such a bad golfer.
I'm just always in the trees. And I look at this course.
I'm like, no trees. Easy.
Just fucking hit it straight. The fairway, it feels like the fairway is just the largest thing ever.
So, I think if I went there, because I remember I went to the US Open at Olympia Fields in San Francisco. And that was the first time I ever went to a golf.
Olympic club. Olympic club, sorry.
It was the first time I went to a golf major tournament. And I remember standing there and being like holy fuck look at this fairway it's like totally slanted and it's such an insane angle and I finally was like yeah I get it now like this makes sense so I think I have to go see it because as I sit there and watch it I'm like yeah just hit it into the fucking burnt out grass and then hit another one into more burnt out grass and then it'll just and it will just go into the hole.
Yeah, the hardest thing for, you know, we were talking about caddy, and the hardest thing when I had, like, American players come over was explaining to them that the shots that they typically hit won't work here. And so, to your point, it does look wide open, and the greens are huge, but you're going to have to putt from 40 yards off the green.
I mean, you seen that michael phelps putt when he made at king's barns years ago it was like 150 yard putt like that's kind of normal to do here so it's a different type of golf but i think that's why you see the pros have so much success that opens is because once you kind of understand how to do it you can get around relatively easy but if you're playing four days and you're going back to the states it's not going to be that easy for you and now in terms of like the the fairway it's all sand under very little grass right like it's basically every shot's a sand shot so how does that you don't take it you don't take a big divot right right so so yeah how does that affect like how what are guys doing are they using different clubs like are they are they are they uh saying like oh i can't hit this as hard because I can't get underneath it as much like how does that work you yeah you'll hit you'll hit more club and try to hit it softer so instead of hitting a nine iron from 150 let's say you might hit a seven iron from 150 and try to just kind of keep it low and take a little bit off it and so when you watch like when you watch this weekend watch how short the follow-throughs are from the players

because they don't really get it all the way through because they're just kind of knocking it down. Every shot almost looks like how Tommy Fleetwood always plays.
So on a hole like the road hole, if you're not taking the expert approach, which as everybody knows is hit 18-T, if you were to go putter off the T on that one, how many strokes would it take? A putter on the road hole right now?

I mean, I think I'd set your over under at like could you hit a PFT could you hit a putter up in the air 100 yards you think yeah my putter is easy the strongest part of my game by far right but if you could hit a putter 100 yards I think I'd set your over under at seven and a half on putting on the road hole it's easy that's nothing oh yeah I think you could make I think I'd take the under I think not take the under. I think I'd put you at, I think I'd put you at a seven and a half.
You could beat Tiger. So like a, so, so a real question, um, what's the most common mistake that you'll see a caddy make like a professional caddy on St.
Andrews, a professional caddy mistake on the old course. Uh, not, not understand how far the ball rolls out.
You know, I mean, like there was this great podcast with Steve Williams, not one of you guys podcast, but another person's podcast competing podcast about the 2000 open the Tiger one. And Steve said he would literally write down all the numbers of where the balls rolled out because you think, okay, Tiger's in a four iron, right? And it's 312 yards to the bunker, but he in theory could hit it in that bunker.
He had to drive 412 yards today. Tiger did so that, I mean, it landed at 312 yards to the bunker but he in theory could hit it in that bunker he had to drive 412 yards today tiger did so that i mean it landed at 312 yards and rolled 100 yards out with the driver so i think the mistake is not understanding how far the ball is going to roll because again this is probably the firmest that we've ever seen this particular golf course so you're going to see players get in trouble because the ball's going much further than they've ever thought the ball could go off a certain club.
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So we're gambling guys. I know the tournament has started, but you can bet it at any time.
Looking at the current top 10, who do you think is playing the best or you saw maybe in the practice rounds, who you think is like, all right, this guy, he's in a really, really good spot to win this whole thing. Well, I loved Rory this week because I think that Rory's played played well lately i know it's been a long time since he's won a major he's played well lately and rory is the kind of guy that actually cares about sports history unlike so many athletes i mean he dives into this stuff he eats it up he knows what it means to win at certain places so you know for people that aren't big golf fans winning at st andrew, I'd say is probably the biggest accomplishment in golf outside even of winning the Masters.
You know, there's only an open here every five or six years. You know, you play at Augusta every year.
You have an opportunity to win the Masters every year in theory. But if you're a good player, you might have three times to play St.
Andrews in your prime, right? I mean, if you're a 25 year old, you play it when you're 31, you play it when you're 36 or 37, and then all of a sudden you're in your 40s and you're a bit past your prime. It's crazy to say, but this might be the last time Rory's really in his quote-unquote prime playing the old course, and he's played great this year.
So I think Rory's the favorite. It's funny, you know who I like this week, and I really didn't announce it and I should have, was Podrick Harrington.
I thought Podrick Harrington was going to have a good week, and he went out there and played great today. He's, he's in the hunt.
So that was kind of my sleeper was Padraig Harrington. Now, what do you think the score to win this thing is going to be? Like, where do you see it on Sunday? I think it'll be 19, 20, 21 under.
Wow. Okay.
So Mickey Mouse golf course kind of. Yeah.
It's just the way if the wind doesn't blow you. So in 2010, Rory shot 63 in the first round.
There was no wind. The wind blew in the second round.
He shot 80. So wind can change the whole dynamic of the old course.
But if the wind's not blowing, it's just not very long, especially for these guys and especially how baked out it is. So I just feel like with the wind not up much, 65, 66, 67, if you're playing well, is about what the par is.
So when I'm watching and you tell me if i'm way off because i might be completely wrong about this but i i feel like the players that are playing today they're playing essentially the same course that has been played for years and years and years have they updated it have they made it more difficult or is this relatively like pretty similar to what they were doing back in the 50s 60s it's it's relatively similar they've added a few new new tees, but not a whole bunch. I mean, when you look at the scorecard, like I mentioned Tiger had a 412-yard drive today.
I think I added it up, and if he'd have hit that on certain par 4s, he would have driven or driven it over seven par 4s at St. Andrews.
When you look at a U.S. Open, you think about Olympic Club, Big Cat.
I mean, you know, these par 4s are 460, 470, sometimes 500 yards, even 520 yards at certain U.S. Opens.
That's just not the case here because they do want it to feel, as PFT said, they want it to feel like it felt in the 1900s, in the 1800s, and when Jack won and Seve won and Tiger won. So there are some changes they do, but not enough.
And the thing is, when the conditions aren't up, all these guys hit it. I mean, these guys hit at 350 now.
They're going to get drives around the greens on a whole bunch of par fours. So I need to give you a moment here to tell us about your luggage situation.
Oh, my God. Because you did say that it's just – Best moment in Twitter history.
It's been an insane time. It sounds like everyone's dealing with the same thing rigs i think lost his luggage for like five days did he ever i don't think he's

ever got i don't think he might not have got it so is there's just everything i've understood

there's just a it's not he throw right you guys are flying somewhere else so if you flew through

he throw that was the issue so i flew through he throw to edinburgh and that was the big issue he

throws losing a ton of got a ton of bags and then they don't have the people at edinburgh to help

I'll see you next time. that was the issue so i flew through he throw to edinburgh and that was the big issue he throws losing a ton of ton of bags and then they don't have the people at edinburgh to help out either so i asked somebody at edinburgh airport which is one of the airports in scotland i asked the lady i was like hey just you know what is the deal here because there were bags big cat everywhere yeah so i said it was a mountain of bags oh i landed at midnight and it was just i I mean, there was shit everywhere in the carousel.
It almost looked like if you were making a movie, how you would make a bag baggage situation look like on a set. I asked the lady, I said, hey, what happened here? What's going on? She said that the baggage situation in Heathrow is so bad, they're actually flying planes to Edinburgh with no bags on them.
So full planes of people, not a single bag on the airplane. And then they're sending a whole bunch of bags at times.
So my golf bag got lost. My clothes got here, which is nice.
But my golf bag got lost. So I was going to play a whole bunch of golf.
It stays light here until about 11 o'clock in the summer. I was going to play golf pretty much every day or every night.
Didn't have golf clubs, whatever. It's not a big deal.
And some random person on Twitter, I was like having fun with it.

I lost my golf bags.

It sucks.

You know, whatever, being stupid.

Some random person on Twitter sent a pic, no avatar on the Twitter account.

This is how random it was.

Took a picture of a whole bunch of golf bags in Edinburgh, and my travel bag was on top.

Wow.

So I circled it on my iPhone. I posted a picture on Twitter, and I how bad the situation was and I knew I wasn't going to get my bag.
That was the thing. I knew if I didn't get my bag from a random person, there was no chance I was going to get it before I left Scotland.
So I said, if you grab my bag and you're coming up to St. Andrews, I'll give you 200 bucks if you get up this way.
I go play golf with Reynolds. And again, I told you it stays light till 11.
So I'm not on my phone. I'm not checking what's going on.
I look at my phone. I have all these messages from people like, hey, dude, look at Twitter.
Some girl named Steph grabbed my bag. She was coming up by St.
Andrews and brought it up with her. Her and her boyfriend brought it up, dropped it off the hotel like 1130.
I took a picture with her. But again, good in the world.
Good on Twitter. Twitter never brings us any total and 100% happiness.
And this is one of the rare moments. That's awesome.
That is hashtag golf right there. So I got Steph.
I don't even think she knows this yet. Maybe I'll announce this on Pardon My Take.
I got Steph two tickets for Sunday at the Open. So she's going to come out with her boyfriend.
And her birthday is Saturday. So Sunday, her and her boyfriend are going to come out to the open and i'm gonna you know try to see what i can do about getting them in places where they can get some free drinks and stuff but yeah hopefully they're they'll be excited about that wow that's what a story so you you mentioned that you can play golf real late there it's late outside till 11 max did that at the scottish open right yeah he loved the course so much he wanted to play a second time any chance he does time.
Any chance he does that again today? I don't think today. I mean, he's getting off.
It's 941 here. You know, he got off the golf course at 9, and he's got to go out early tomorrow.
So I don't think he's going to squeeze in 18, maybe 9, you know, maybe like a quick 6. But I don't see like a full 18 this evening.
You can't play. The guys can't play St.
Andrews after it's done, right? Can they play it at night? No. No, you can't go back out there and do it.
I actually think that's against the rules. I think you can't go practice on the golf course you're playing a tournament in.
That sucks. That's probably a smart rule.
Hank would definitely just go through that. Well, Hank would get there early.
Yeah, he'd play 18. Get there early and hit all the chip shot.
Go hit a whole bunch of putts on the holes early.

That would be a smart way to do it.

Yeah, for a production meeting.

Here's a fun fact.

We did fun facts on our last episode of Part of My Take.

I'm not sure if you're familiar.

You probably are because you live there.

Do you know what the national animal of Scotland is?

Is it a sheep?

It's the unicorn.

Can you believe that?

Is that an animal?

I guess so.

They declared it to be their national animal. I just thought that was a fun fact that that's not even that's not even real if you believe in it it is do we do we have fake things as state birds and like mottos and stuff well birds aren't real in general birds but i'm saying do we have like a fake bird you know like like toucan sam is the state bird of uh new ham bird of New Hampshire.
I don't think we would ever do something like that. But I think that it's like Scotland, like, you know, hearkening back to their mythological days and all the nights of the round table and shit like that.
They're like, you know what? There you go. That's my item I learned today about Scotland.
Yeah. How is your golf game? It's okay.
It's okay. I tried to play back in my earlier years.
Obviously, you know, flamed out, didn't do it. I shot 68 in my first pro tournament, Big Cat, and I was like 38 on the leaderboard.
And I mean, I played my ass off. I've already the last two holes, I was all fired up.
And that was almost about the peak of my professional career. But, you know, I still play competitive stuff, still play amateur stuff.
I playing the connecticut open in a couple weeks uh qualified into that so yeah i mean i still you know play a little bit and get it around here and there that's fun we we so coming up is the mount rushmore of worst golf guys do you have anyone that particularly like you hate like guys you play with yeah i mean the i would say i mean i mean slow guy that sucks is number one to me you know because you can like people you know people come up to me and they you Hey, I mean, I would say, I mean, I mean, slow guy that sucks is number one to me, you know, because you can like people, you know, people come up to me and they, you know, hey, I just want to let you know, I'm not very good. I don't care if you're the worst golfer I've ever seen.
You just can't be bad and slow. The same goes for a good player.
Don't be good and slow either. Yeah.
Being fast is important. So I would say like the bad slow golfer and then the person that's giving advice to somebody that's better than you.
That's like we have a, we have a buddy named Jake Minard and Jake will tell anybody he's like an 18 handicap. He would break down Max's swing.
If Max was around now, I'm sure Max would love that. What about this golf etiquette wise? Um, I like to, when I'm playing someone in, we're maybe playing for money.
Um, when they're on the green and they're about to putt, I like to pick up their ball and put it right back down. Is that legal? I don't know if it's necessarily legal, but I really like it in terms of gamesmanship.
Yeah, right? So you put it in the same spot? Same exact spot. I just pick it up and I'm just like, let me look at that real quick and then put it right back down, right before they're about to putt.
I love that move. I might start doing that.
I might do that at the Connecticuticut open it always fucks with people because they're like what the hell are you doing my ball yeah i'm not doing anything i'm just literally picking up putting it down this is gonna this is gonna show you how little we know about golf but when you're caddying and you ask the guy like hey you want it in or out for the pin does it make a difference at all if the pin is in or out not really not i mean i mean, I think golf guys would argue with me saying not really because they'd get super golf nerdy. But, I mean, good players on the PGA Tour putt with it in and good players putt with it out.
It doesn't really matter. I always assume that if it's in, you have a better chance if it's coming hot to maybe catch up on it.
I think that's probably true kind of if you you did a whole study on it but at the same time it can also like it could reject it right if it's coming in with speed and sometimes those fast putts if the pins out hit the back of the hole pop up in the air and go in right you're missing out on that opportunity which also is a cool way to make a putt yeah what goes through my head whenever somebody asks me that question if it's in that just means i've already accepted the fact that i'm not going to make that putt. And if it's out, that means that I'm actually, I have half a chance that it might go in.
Yeah. So we're talking about, by the way, we're talking about bad golf guys.
I got one for you. It's the guy that changes that depending on how far the putt is.
So I've played tournament golf before with guys that want the pin in on longer putts, but want it out on shorter putts. You're kind of going back and forth.
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I don't know why it took us this long to get here, but I mean, your last name, dude, like that's fake, right? No, no. I mean, that's not fair that you have a last name Bacon.
That's the most, I mean, Kevin Bacon and Shane Bacon, like you just have the most memorable name like people don't forget your name shane bacon same amount of letters too yeah so there's like a lot of symmetry you know it's kind of five and five i i married a woman whose last name was beverage so she went from beverage to bacon how about that what she kept her last name right her middle name is now beverage Yeah, she hyphenated it. Beverage Bacon.
No, she...

The thing is, she switched to bacon because it was beverage,

but it was spelled without the...

It wasn't the typical spelling.

It was like I-D-G-E.

So she went to bacon to make things easier

because she said she had to have to spell it out.

But I was really pushing for the hyphen

because I thought it'd be really funny.

Wait, does she have any of that Tito's money?

Because I know that Tito from Tito's Vodka,

his name is Tito Beverage.

Yeah.

I don't know if she hadn't told me about it. She might be holding out on did you what was the moment how old were you when you realized like my last name's awesome uh you know i think it got you get through that awkward stage of 11 12 13 when everybody thinks that the jokes matter and i think when you get to 15 16 and you realize if they're making fun of you that's a good thing that was kind of the good moment of my life when i went and then you get to college and people like you said never forget your name because your name is bacon at the end and everybody in theory likes bacon it is one of the rare universal thing it would be like if your name was you know pft puppy yeah it's like oh wow that last name is great everybody likes puppies puppy's not a bad name yeah puppy's a great last name throw it out there throw it out there next kid maybe next kid oh man that's good well shane thank you so much we appreciate it uh you're now a recurring guest we'll have you back on to talk golf and uh good luck with uh the rest of the tournament watching everyone and and hopefully tiger plays better but i don't i don't know if that's gonna happen i put too much money on him to win the let's go let's go max yeah i think max will bounce back tomorrow and also i just wanted to tell you guys i don't normally wear a backwards hat but i spilled ketchup on it 13 seconds before we started the podcast so there you go that's a cool long day yeah you can pull it off listen your name is shane i would be disappointed if your hat was forward how'd you spill ketchup on a hat i'm in i'm in the i'm in the booth like i'm still in our booth was it were you wearing it when you spilled ketchup on it yeah like well i got the serious ketchup right here right you know i got the got like my sandwich was it like taking it off i'd catch it on my hand oh okay one of those not a great situation i think you're lying i think it was a ketchup packet explosion no no no no no these listen these uk packets don't explode it's serious plastic over here I think you're lying.
I think you like to eat the fries off the top of your hat. And you're just a weirdo.
Now the Shane Bacon thing isn't that cool. Now you caught me.
Damn it. I knew I should have brought it up.
Wait, important Scotland question. Do you get good straws over there? Are they the paper straws? No, no.
Paper at Starbucks is brutal. Listen, I think it's lame, but I'm one of those guys that go to Starbucks everywhere I go because it's the only consistent thing on the road.
Yeah, that makes sense. Is that lame? No, I don't think so.
I don't have the stuff you like. Okay, thank you.
Yeah, paper straws, awful. Yeah, they're the worst.
Fuck the sea turtles. Shane, thank you so much.
We appreciate it, and yeah, everyone check them out on Golf Channel all weekend. Appreciate it.
Thanks, guys. We're going to get right back to the show.
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It is Trent and Frankie. First time on Pardon My Take? First time.
Big moment. Let's go.
I i remember a couple years ago during the masters i remember speeding down the highway with rigs and we had you guys on speakerphone oh yeah that was the only yes other time i was on but this is the first time officially in studio yes welcome i love it i love it and you guys just came back from scotland and playing lynx golf correct we did yeah it's a grind over there it's a totally different game we just got back two days ago um this course that we're watching right now is just it's an absolute beast so you play this course you play no we did not play st andrews okay but we played all the courses around it we were we were there the week before we wanted to play but they shut it down so they can get ready for the open so this is a dumb golf question but like i when you say this course is a beast i i think i understand why but i also am like there's no trees so i can't get lost but like it's just the most it's like an unassuming beast if that makes any sense there's no trouble when you look out there and then there's all these pot bunkers it's almost like there's holes in the ground that just go on forever they literally call them coffins right yeah there's one row that it's the coffins and there's three in a row that just are you can't get out of them have to actually go backwards. Yeah, and if you look at American golf, it's more sticky and soft.
You can hit a wedge super high, and it'll land on the green and stop. In Scotland, it's much different.
It's all burnt out and hard and firm. So what we learned when we were over there, the caddies were telling us, where you think you're going to go, land it 20 to 30 yards short, and it'll run out and go towards the hole.
Yeah, because if you land it on the green next to the hole, you're going to be like 30 yards past the hole. All your yardages are always to the front, so it was really hard to accept that.
Let's say you hit your 9-iron 145 yards. You're now using that on a 165-yard shot.
I'm way farther than that. They probably don't even make golf clubs that I can use on this course.
Just overhead everything. How's your game, PFT? I know you've been playing a bunch.
Pretty strong. Yeah, I almost had a par.
A lot of people, you probably already heard about it. I almost had a par on the iconic ninth at whatever county course I was playing at last week.
I hit my nine iron out of the fairway. It was about 145, 155.
And I put it within about 12 feet and then hit my putt like four feet. And so I left myself eight feet for my bogey.
the internet being nice to you about your swing every time you post it well honestly all they're saying is like your swing's better than hanks oh that's really the main comment hank's been hank's been basically doing um trent you're breaking 100 series but just every single day by himself and not documenting it and he hasn't broken i take. I take some videos.
I've broken 100. You have? Yeah.
When? Well, I scored 100. Oh.
I haven't broken it yet. That's not breaking it.
He broke into 100. Yeah, because Trent, when you broke 100, I easily could, though.
It wasn't 100, was it? 95. Yeah, right.
But Trent's improving. So when Trent does his breaking 100 and breaking 90 videos, I have to watch all of them.
And it's not just you, Trent, because you're a very likable person. Everybody roots for you.
I think you're a piece of shit, but everyone else seems to really love you. I watch it to see you get your heart broken.
But then Frankie is such a great wingman on these trips. So I just dig the whole dynamic that you guys have going on.
It's very soothing to watch you play a round of golf, even if you're not playing your best. It's some of the best content that we put out.
Yeah, Frankie's as much of a part of it as I am. I'm the guy trying to make the score, but he's gassing me up, telling me what I need to do, telling me what I'm doing wrong sometimes.
It's a good dynamic, and it works. I'm trying to break 90.
Where are you right now? Are you consistently shooting in the 90s so on the series so far no i shot 98 the first time and then i went 103 102 101 shit um i know and then it's like we're basically back to breaking 100 but right but i played well in scotland i think i figured some things out so i feel better about my game now i think i'm gonna start putting up mid 90. Yeah, nice.
And what about you, Frankie? What are you shooting these days? I had, like, the round of my life the other day during one of the episodes. I shot a 79.
What? I was on track to shoot, like, a 74, and I kind of blew up on one hole. But, yeah, something about playing with him and trying to accomplish his goal, I forget about all my mental demons, and I kind of just, like, hit the ball and then go to him, and I don't realize, like, my ball is right in the middle of right in the middle of the green or I'm making the pot or making the birdie.
And then halfway through the round, we're like, Holy shit. What the hell's going on over here? That's awesome.
Yeah. I also think that, that helping somebody out and by, by kind of like giving them pointers here and there, if you're teaching somebody else something, you're also like subconsciously reinforcing that to yourself.
Yeah. And so you're like coaching yourself, but you don't even realize it.
Yeah. and he's been working with a mental coach shooting a series called fixing frankie this guy dr brett mccabe who works with john rom and billy horschel all these guys on tour just trying to get frankie like a process and to figure it out it's crazy not to be such a neurotic weirdo on the golf course right yeah it's been working too he's chipping insane thinking through a golf shot makes you better yeah weird i It's weird.
I don't have the time for that. What's your – yeah, I don't think through anything, really.
No. What's your biggest neuroses that you have that you have to work through? I'm very self-deprecating.
That's how I get through life, and I feel like I'm back on the couch. This series hasn't come out yet, but it's like he literally sits me down.
He's like, what's wrong with you? And I say, like, I like to make jokes about myself before I accomplish the thing that I'm trying to trying to accomplish right so i'll be over a wedge shot or like a little tight lie uh you know with a sandwich in my hand and i'll say well everybody watch out like watch your kneecaps watch your legs this thing's coming in hot immediately when i say that i'm already setting myself up for failure and then i fail right so he was saying like why do you step up to a t and rope a drive with a little bit of a draw right down the middle it's's exactly where he wanted it. And I was like, oh, because I'm confident in that.
He's like, step up to the wedge just like that. So we did all these things to make me confident stepping up to the ball, and it worked.
I like that he's a therapist, and his first question is, what's wrong with you? And we drank during it, which I think might have been not kosher. No, that's fine.
No, that's good. Actually, I think therapy, they should include a bar.
There should be an open bar. I think open bar used to he was saying and and they should just give you a ball to throw around me and fights discovered this when we were at the ocean we were down at the beach last year and we were just like throwing a vortex football to each other like calmly we started talking about our dads yeah and next thing you know we're like expressing ourselves emotionally to each other and we're like what's going oh yeah it's because we're fucking

playing sports while we do this tossing this around

we should mention

before we do the Mount Rushmore

do we have a comment on Tiger

because I bet a lot of money on him

to make the cut he is so bad right now

Frankie I saw your tweet

where you're like here like

he roped the first drive of the day

best golfer in the world then he put the

next one in the drink

where are we at because

This is... where you're like, he roped the first drive of the day, best golfer in the world.
Then he put the next one in the drink. Where are we at? Because we were talking before, PFT kind of thinks he might retire.
Is that on the table? So they actually, somebody with Sky Sports, I think, this week asked him about that because it's the 150th. He loves this place.
He said it's his favorite golf course in the world. He walked, I think, 58 holes during the practice rounds, which is way more than he usually does, especially with that bad leg.
And they asked him, like, are you going to retire? Because it seems like you're trying to savor every moment here. It's kind of maybe your last go around.
He said no, but it's certainly going to be the last time that he can play at a semi-high level. Obviously, it's not playing out right now.
But for the next time that it comes to St. Andrews, it's going to be a few years with the rotation.
So I don't know. I mean, I wish you were playing better.
I wish that we could do one more magic go-around at St. Andrews, but it does not seem like it's panning out that way.
So if you – like, I would assume, though, like even if he retires and stops playing like every – he's still going to play the majors, right? You don't like retiring golf. when people retire they just retire to play more golf right right that's exactly right and also like he gets to choose his own schedule he's not a part of a team he's not like retiring would mean hey i'm not coming on thursday to that game right he's just like i might show up to the u.s open next year i might show up if my leg feels good to the pj championship he's exempt he's always going to going to be in all these things.
He might show up I don't know, for the next 10 years. Who knows?

I feel like he's just always going to play the Masters.

Right. That's the plan.
He's always said that's the plan.

He calls out the Hogan schedule.

Ben Hogan had a horrific

injury and then would always pick and choose

his tournaments that he would play in. Tigers are going to do

the same thing. Yeah, I think that's right.
So retirement

doesn't mean he's never going to play golf again for the rest

of his life. But I think looking at his leg leg up people forget he has like half of a leg his entire really bad his calf is gone the picture that came out like a month ago where usually he's wearing the sleeve like when when he knows he's going to be in public and photographed or videoed he puts a sleeve on it there was one time i forget where he was and somebody caught him and just took a picture with him and he wasn't wearing the sleeve and people were like that's about a hundred million times worse than we all looked like a scarecrow like he was literally pieced together what did you guys think about rigs tweet when he just tweeted a picture of the crash it was like this guy's dominating right now i mean did he do that oh yeah what do you remember that that was like a couple tournaments ago i think it was might have been the masters when he had a bit of a run, and it was just a picture of the crash site.
He was like, this guy's fucking playing his balls off. Listen, that's a ballsy and aggressive tweet.
But if you think about it, the fact that he was playing well enough to make the cut at these tournaments, after he went flying off a cliff 80 miles per hour, there were no break marks, nothing. He just went.
That's interesting. It's pretty no blood tests either that's kind of interesting police didn't find anything yeah right they also said hey what's up tiger can i get an autograph the sheriff i think he said he held a press conference and was like we have the answers but we're closing this case and we're not going to release it we're so honored to to be there he was wearing a tiger woods hat and he was wearing a red mock neck during the interview.
The only problem, like the retirement stuff, I don't think he's going to retire, but if you're looking at a tournament where he could potentially play well, like he skipped the U.S. Open at Brookline for a reason because it's hilly and he doesn't want to put that on his body and he was saving up for this tournament.
St. Andrews, it's flat and the weather isn't as bad as it could be, so that would be ideal conditions for him to perform, and he's not.
Right. So it's a red flag in that aspect.
He was in a divot on one. That's the only reason.
It was. The ball was in a divot when he hit it.
He hit the second one into the burn, right? Yeah. They call it the burn? I don't know why they call it the burn, by the way.
It's filled with water. It makes no sense.
We're going to talk to Shane Bacon a little bit. We'll ask him that.
Who do you guys have beef with right now? Jeff Shackelford. Jeff Shackelford.
Pretty much all the old, not all of them, because some of them are good, but there was, when we were in Australia for the President's Cup, and we fist bumped Tiger, and we put the video up, and we were giddy, because that's just kind of, that's an awesome video. Right, that's kind of how we are around Tiger.
Tiger, like, was friendly with you guys. Oh, yeah.
So we get giddy, and then I think Frankie tweeted during that, he was playing a guy named Abe Anser, and Frankie was like, I want Tiger to beat Abe Anser so badly that he quits the game of golf. And those two things combined.
Turned out he went to live, so he kind of did. A couple old guys were like, I can't believe these guys get media credentials.
I think it's like Bob Huggins and Jeff Schauffer. Those guys suck.
They're mad that they've spent their entire existence inside that media tent clicking away at all the words that they're going to write that no one's going to read on jeffshackelford.com about the presence of the game of golf and all of our hearts and our minds. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? We're going to get 10 times the amount of views, 10 times the amount of clicks by just giving the guy a high five because that's the world we live in.
We live in this world. You live in a non-exist guys are fans right right and we were just fine and we would have never said those things like we didn't we weren't on the offensive we were on the on the defensive because they were saying like i can't believe that these guys have credentials we've always said that there's enough room at the table for everybody correct the written the journalist that side of it is fine yeah the side the fanboy side of it that we are that's fine too you gotta see these guys.
They literally go up to the desk and try and get our credentials taken away from us. They're complaining to the heads of the PGA Championship being like, we're not writing if they're out there.
It's nuts. That's ridiculous.
They'll probably be like, okay, see you. You can actually, it turns out, you can write words about golf if you watch it on TV.
Yeah, 100%. And one of Jeff Shackelford's things was like, you guys are making it about yourself, not

about the game or about the golfers.

And like he just said, his website is Jeff Shackelford.com.

And Jeff Shackelford's written like the Hollywood sign.

We're all out here trying to do the same thing.

I think you guys are making it about the game, but by making it about yourselves, to a certain

extent when they show those moments like Tiger Woods coming up, everybody that watches it

gets to see Tiger Woods meeting a fan that's's been like, you know, appreciating the work that that guy's been doing for years and years and years growing up, watching them on TV. They get to see you guys get super excited about that.
People like that. Like it's meeting your heroes.
People like seeing people meet. It's, it's what, it's what all these like old journalists, like whenever they complain about their flights or the press box, that's what we always make fun of.
It's like, dude, you realize that a lot of people listen to us and read us because they know that we have a dream job. Right.
Why would we pretend that it's anything different? I'd be like, no, Tiger, I don't want a fist bump. And the number one response we get to those videos is like, I feel like I'm living vicariously through you.
Yeah, because they feel like they know you and you know Tiger. Exactly.
Yeah. So actually my favorite video that you guys did in a situation like that was a couple years ago when Tiger came up to you guys for the first time and he just started like chit-chatting with you, just like making small talk like he knew you guys and then he asked Trent the famous question, where are you guys stationed? And Trent's brain just froze.
Like a screensaver appeared on Trent's face, which is, I mean, that's a very like weird way to ask. I'm still not even sure what he was asking.
Well, it's military. He was asking.
Yeah, exactly. He's a Navy SEAL.
He is a Navy SEAL. He had a setup at Pebble Beach for Barstool Radio.
So that could have been the station. Is he asking us where are we stationed like that week? Like, where's our house? That's what I thought.
Where's Barstool headquarters? Yeah, right. Where are you stationed? So he actually, Trent actually said, Trent actually went, duh.
I just, the i just he said it was the first time tiger woods had ever looked me in the eyes and said words my direction and i just had nothing for him that's an awesome power move though to like that to ask somebody a question they don't know the answer to the first time you meet him so do you like if he asks you again do you have like where are you stationed i don't have an answer i don't have an answer i want to get out in front of it if we ever have the opportunity to interview him or have a sit down with him i want to get out in front of it and be like you broke my brain by asking me where am i stationed and i need to know what did you mean by that yeah and then yeah that's a great question and then give me and then i'll answer the question if once he breaks it down a little bit further because as it stands right now i have no idea where i'm stationed do you guys think you'll get him on eventually we've had him on our show no big deal oh yeah i remember that through a call right yeah i think so yeah yeah we've gotten pretty tight with his inner circle so like he's just got guys who are always around him right and we're that's how we got like the the pebble beach thing that you're talking about pft that is how that happened right the guys around him know that we're like not psychopaths i mean we love tiger we've loved him forever so there is that side of it but like we're not going to be crazy weirdos to him right maybe i mean just regular weirdos side of that we're regular weirdos with him so they they trust us to a degree so i think hopefully at some point in the future we'll get some sort of interview with that'd be awesome i think most people would turn into like a little bit of a weirdo meeting tiger woods he's there's a class of i mean you guys know it because you've interviewed a bunch of people and same with us like you get a little numb to it and then you'll have like a step-up interview where it's like oh fuck this person yeah like when we interviewed like adam sandler and kg was like whoa this is like a totally different you know the nerves. Yeah, you get the nerves for it.
And Tiger's a little bit of a weirdo. Yo.
Wait, a little? Trent? No, I know. I know.
But having that energy with my nervousness energy, it's interesting. I think that would be a good mix, though.
I actually think you guys would calm him down a little bit. I think Tiger would come out of his shell a little bit if he was talking to you guys.
I would hope so. We would love that.
At Pebble Beach, it was the first time I was ever lost for words. I always heard that term, and I was like, that's impossible.
You can always say something. I actually tried to say something, and I couldn't get the word out.
We were talking about the basketball game. I think the Lakers were playing, and I was going to say, who do you like tonight? And it actually was very mousy.
I couldn't get it out Who do you and then he I grabbed it from me grabbed it from me I was like who do you like tonight? Pissing himself in the corner guys should have been like you check out the fucking bombs on that. Yeah, I love you guys He's just should just bring some playmates with you.

We brought this gift for you, Tiger.

All right, let's do Mount Rushmore.

Let's do Mount Rushmore.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worst golf guys.

So open-ended.

You guys are our guests, so you decide the order.

So it's going to be Team Frankie and Trent together.

Hank, Bubba, and Jake, and then me and PFT. You guys decide the order so it's gonna be team uh frankie and trent together hank uh bubba and jake and then me and pft you guys decide your snake draft okay okay um how do you what do you think it's tough it's real tough don't overthink it where do you guys want to be stationed yeah fuck let's go let's go second okay who do you want to go first i want pft to You go first.
All right. It's us.
It's a, yeah. It's the two.
It's mostly PFT. Shut up, Hank.
Hank, who do you want to go first? I want PFT to go first. It's us.
Shut up, Hank. I want you guys to go first, a second, and you guys third.
And then, wait. Yeah.
Okay. Alright, we'll go first.
Okay, so our most annoying golf guy. I think we go with that one that you wrote me back about PFT that I said to you because I think that will get taken.
No, it's my pick, so you're wrong, Hank. Yeah, okay.
You're being a piece of shit, Hank. Do you guys have a producer that's so annoying that went upstairs and is now in the C-suite and thinks he's better than everyone? Yep.
Oh, okay, good, cool. So you can relate to how annoying Hank is.
All right. One of the most annoying guys on the golf course is the guy that thinks that, like, the cart girl's into him.
And it's, like, always hitting, like, very uncomfortable while you're sitting there where the cart girl comes up, hitting on her, like, asking her questions. Trying to be funny.
Yeah, trying to be funny. And then you get back in your carts, and he's like she totally wants to fuck me it's it's tiger woods it's usually the guy who it's it's the only woman that person gets to talk to that's not their wife during the course of a week and so and they've had a couple beers she has more beers and so then it's just like open season yeah and he just like lets all this pin up sexual frustration out on this poor cart girl yeah who's going to be polite to you because she wants your tip and you know she wants to keep serving you uh serving your beers for the rest of the round and he like yeah he thinks that like being on a golf course is like international waters where you can just say whatever it's like dude stop like this is uncomfortable just get your fucking you know beer and let's keep going she's not into you she pours the beer he's like i actually

had a guy do this one time she pours the beer and he's like wow that's a lot of head yeah i was like i'm walking back to my car yeah it's the same one of the worst same guy i was really mad at my dad yeah yeah it's like this girl is super into me yeah it's like well you're giving a lot of money and it's like kind of why we're here or he'll be like when the car comes car comes up, be like dibs. You're like, come on, dude, what the fuck are you doing? I call dibs on hole one.
Oh yeah. I would, I would be all up in that.
Yeah. It's like, dude, you're 70 tips are, yeah.
Tips are a little too much. We're like, Oh, she'll come back to us.
And then the move is they'll let the car girl like swing, swing the club. Oh, that's watch it.
That would fucking hit one. Oh my God.
I've thankfully never been around oh it's the worst i would lose it it's bad okay uh that's a good one your first pick i think you go number two right there yeah okay also we should just say you can't pick rigs okay thank you no no no um i know that was everyone's first pick we're going with the golf tips guy a guy who always wants to give out a tip There's nothing worse than when you're playing golf You're not on the range You spend money to go play And then you have someone right there on the first You'd be like, you know, I saw your swing I think you're taking a little bit too much on the inside Like, dude, you suck too I suck, you suck, we all suck I don't need your tip You can't even hit the ball. Yeah, and there's a way to do it.
There's a way to do it. I've been on the golf course where someone will say like, hey, can I give you a tip? I'm like, yes, please.
Yes. You can consent to the tip.
Yes. But the person who gives unsolicited tips and they'll do it all round, that drives, that's the worst to be around.
I had it happen in we just got back from Scotland. We're playing one of the all-time golf courses I'm ever going to play on the driver's.
I got driving lesson from a guy that changed my whole swing. And now all of a sudden I step to the first year.
I don't even know who I was anymore. I was playing fantastic leading up to it.
You ruined my day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck. Did you choose to take the lesson? You have to take the lesson.
You can't just get away from me because then you become another bad golf guy where you're just an asshole out it's you have to be a very simple he just came up to you he's like can i give you a lesson yeah it was just like i see you're doing this like why don't you take it more from the inside takes videos of me showing me now i have to be polite it's like what are we doing at here no it's it's the simple can i give you a quick tip and if you say yes or no like you can say no like i play good golf i'm good yeah yeah but then you're an asshole and then you like shank the first one he's, why didn't you take the tip? You get the version of it, Trent. Was it your caddy? Oh, you get it online, Trent.
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
I mean, we- Oh, yeah. With our jobs, we have the most videoed swings in the world, and then I'm trying to do this series where I'm trying to break 100, I'm trying to break 90.
I don't even look at my DMs anymore. Well, but I heard that every foreplay listener shoots under par.
That's true. That's what heard as well it's bad it's really bad and they'll trick me too they've they've figured out because i've said this publicly that like i'm not listening to anybody except my swing coach john tillery if you're trying to dm me tips and all that stuff like i don't want them so now they'll start the dm being like love the series love you guys i'm like you're like i'll read this one honey pot it and then the way, you fucking suck at putting.
Like, figure it out. It's like, all right, man.
Sorry. The thing about golf tips, too, especially when you're reading them, is they never make any sense.
Yeah. At least to me, as like a lay person, it's always somebody who's like, oh, your hands are releasing a little bit too early.
You need to bring the elbow inside and have it clear your hips before they follow through. Yeah.
I'm like, none of that makes any sense to anybody except for the person writing. You haven't fired your glutes enough and your hips aren't activating you're saying what is this all right like i'm bad in bunkers and people will tell me just act like there's a dollar bill under i'm like what does that mean yeah no that's that's actually a good tip you should do that okay i tried that yeah all right hank you your team has the next two yes uh i have one similar to their first one but i'll save that for the second our first pick is the guy who has a couple bad holes and becomes a total asshole and just like ruins the mood like he just has a couple we said don't pick riggs no no i mean not not riggs but like this happens all the time people take it a little bit too seriously and then all of a sudden they're just like not talking they're not cracking jokes yep they're literally just like hit get in the cart the cart, don't say anything, drive up, and then, God forbid, they have another bad shot, and then it's just awkward.
It's like, what am I doing out here? I think the correct move is once you start fucking up, you should talk more. Get it out of your system.
Just be open with how badly you're playing. It is true.
The energy vampires of a golf course. Yes.
Yeah. Okay, good pick.
And then my second one, this happened to me the other day. So I play a lot of, I play a lot of like random fill golf games like at Skyway.
Cause like I don't have, I just go out there by myself and get paired up with whoever's out there. And it was just me and one other guy.
And he started asking me for tips after every single shot. So like the guy that's like asking, I was like, I'm not a good golfer.
I don't, I, I don't know what I'm doing. And he's like, what did you see there? Like, what did you see there? What did you see there? What did you see there? Because I think it had, like – he's like, oh, Barstow Golf.
Like, I had the Barstow Golf bag, and he was like, oh, like, you play a lot of golf. I was like, not really.
Yeah. And he just kept asking me for swing tips.
So the guy who asked, like, over-asked for tips when you don't want to give them. Yeah.
Do you ever make them up? I was literally just like, yeah, you know, what people tell me is like put the ball on your front foot. You have no idea.
I don't know what I'm saying. I say the shit that people DM me that I don't even know what they're saying.
It's similar to what you say. Going out there and getting paired up with strangers, the fact that you do that on a regular basis, I find to be incredibly brave.
Yeah. Agreed.
I get incredibly nervous and anxious about that because you don't know what you're going to get, and I suck, and it's like, I know everybody sucks, but you never know what you're going to get. yeah that's like i get incredibly nervous and anxious about that yeah because you don't know what you're gonna get and i suck and it's like i know everybody sucks but you never know what you're gonna get so that's i find that to be incredibly my dad does it all the time he brings like all of my clothes and like we'll hand it out to like if it's a person that's a medium or a large from my closet he goes out there and he's like you ever hear a barstool golf like no he's like here's a here's a quarter zip that's's amazing.
I'm like, yeah, where are all my clothes? He loves it.

If you know Frankie's dad, he's probably the most proud father in the world.

That's crazy.

He gives away one of your medium shirts.

He probably cries.

Yeah, he does.

You can just be like, Frankie's doing a great job, and he'll start crying.

Yeah, if he's listening to this right now, he's crying.

He's crying.

Oh, for sure.

So part of my take is hysterical.

All right, your guy's next pick.

Which one do you want to go with?

I think you've got to go with one of those two. Let's do that one.
Okay. It's the strict rule follower.
Ah, we had that. Yep.
Tiger Woods today in a fucking divot. If you're making me hit out of a divot, go home.
I don't want to play with you. If I'm just a foot on the outside of the white stake and you're making me take a penalty stroke i fucking hate you yep uh if i hit a ball out of bounds and i didn't realize it was out of bounds and you make me walk back to the fucking t to hit my third shot because that's what the usga says like i don't ever want to see you ever again in the rest of my life so we like to abide by the rules of golf in certain situations if we're playing like a legit match and there's a lot of money on the line, fine.
I'll play all the rules you want me to play. Time and place.
If I'm out there with my buddies and I have a guy out there that's just telling me all the rules of golf, oh, you can't walk there, you can't put the... It just doesn't make it fun.
Yeah, your ball is like an inch in front of the T-marker. It's like, hey, you want to back that up a little bit? What are we trying to accomplish out here? Are we trying to become a professional? I think he was that guy at the mini-golf tournament yesterday.
Oh, I didn't know. Mini-g oh i didn't mean hey that was time and place yeah that was time and place i'm actually it wasn't to me it was i'm more of a stickler for rules of mini golf than i am on the actual it was like a little bit before the t-box he's like what are we doing here yeah no that was time and place it was a lot of money on the line i was trying to win that thing um but no it's just it ruins the day and i always say to myself like what are we trying to accomplish out here we're trying to become professional golfers or we're just trying to get this ball in the hole me moving this ball an inch out of the divot it's not going to affect my game agreed today where it's going to make a big difference in any of our lives right let me have a fun time he's actually rooting for you to have a worse time right and if you're not playing for anything you're just playing like what the fuck do you care? Also, there should just be buddy's rules,

even if you are playing for something, where everyone just agrees.

So if it's a divot, you roll it out.

Or like, yeah, yeah.

I actually thought of another one from that.

Or just do whatever you want on the course.

Yeah, 100%. If you're trying to claim a real score and you're shooting in the 70s or whatever,

then yeah, don't take your ball out of the rough and throw it onto the green.

But yes, please give me the opportunity to cheat as much as I can. Cause I'm not like actively trying to beat you.
Yes. Right.
Yes. Um, all right.
So for number two, I'm going to go with the guy that wears spikes as a spectator. So the guy that's like walking the course and he's got his golf shoes on.
Yeah. Hank gave a shrug like, well, we've done this.
We've done that. Oh, you guys have.
I was going to say, I was talking to my grandfather actually recently. I guess he used to cover golf way back in the day when he was in college.
One time I wore shitty shoes and then one of the other older professionals was like, you're on a golf course, you should wear golf shoes. It was brutal and then I started wearing golf shoes.
It was much better to walk around and cover the sport or watch the sport. I've seen the other side of the argument.
We wear them because, first of all, G4 shoes are incredibly comfortable. They're basically sneakers.
They don't have spikes in them. They're just the other types of golf shoes.
Like the molded spikes. Someone's like, you wouldn't wear ice skates to go cover hockey, but it's like you're also not on the ice when you're covering hockey.
They're shitting on our pick. We're shitting on our pick.
Because we wear them, so I'm going to have to defend it. We've got to defend it.
What about also when they wear gloves to tournaments, too? Well, that's crazy. All right, that's crazy.
Who wears a glove to a tournament? I actually have once. I thought it was like- A golf glove? Yeah, what if they ask me to take a shot? Right, you want to be prepared.
It was a joke, but yeah. No, but fucking- Like, if it rains the night before, the guys are obviously- The players are going to be wearing golf shoes.
And then if we're out there walking the course with them. Yeah, but you guys are walking the course.
We're talking about spectators behind the. Aren't they wearing the spikes because they're swinging? And so their, like, energy is being transferred and they need a little traction? That's part of it.
I don't think it's because, like, they're walking across the fairway. No, but, like, you're just walking a hilly, grassy golf course.
That was a great point. That was such a good point.
We're not really swinging out there. We're just grabbing beers and eating hot dogs.
But I just think it's a traction thing. You don't want to be the guy that's falling around on these hills, and it's slippery, and it's bent grass.
It sounds really soft. But again, you guys are talking about in between the ropes.
You guys are in between the ropes. We're talking about spectators.
You're just walking. You're standing in the gallery.
You're wearing spikes. It's crazy.
What about caddies? Do caddies always wear spikes? Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah. All right, our next pick.
This one, actually, I'm shocked it got this far, but just slow play guy. Yeah.
The slow play guy is the worst. Takes forever on every shot.
Million practice swings. has to like, you know, slow play guy usually is like reading the yardage and shit on shots.
Yeah. I mean, if you're stuck, if you're playing with one of those guys, it just completely gets you out of your entire rhythm and everything sucks.
Just becomes a different sport when you're with someone like that. It's like more serious.
And you're like, what are we actually doing at here? Why are here? You know what that guy does? He reads the putt from behind and then walks around because he's seen it on TV his whole life. Are you serious? He doesn't even know what he's doing.
He doesn't even know how to read it. They do the thing where they hold the putter up, too, and they see the lines.
You don't know any of these things. You just read it in a Golf Digest magazine.
The worst feeling is when they take those first two steps, and you're like, oh, they're going to walk all the way around. And now i've got 30 seconds where i'm just gonna be watching this guy and they miss the putt and it's like slapping their their hands and like pointing oh it went right yeah max homer does that because he actually hit it where he wanted to right and didn't know that the putt was gonna go there you're doing it because you suck that's a slow play and a guy with like a nomar garciaparra pre-shot routine yes it's like let's just come on swing let's go and on.
Swings, yeah. Let's go.
And it's like, you could deal with it for a few holes, but then when you get to the back nine, you're like, we've just been doing this all day. We've been out here for five hours already.
Yeah, and then what happens to me, I don't know if you guys are the same, but if I'm playing with someone really slow, I end up speeding up. Yeah.
Because I'm like, I just want to keep going. So he then fucks up.
I mean, my game can't be fucked up more than it already is, but if I were a decent golfer, it me up even more because i'm like you're playing slow i'm gonna play fast yeah because then you have like there's no worse feeling than knowing you're with the slow play guy and then you have people lining up behind you you could feel their breath on your neck you could just feel it you're like well do we let him play through and usually slow play guy does not let him play through nope and it's just the worst i actually think it actually think it's worse, though, when you're not, when the slow play guy has a group

in front of you.

That too, yeah.

And then there's people behind you and you want to be like, no, it's not even us.

It's actually them.

It's that guy, yeah.

That's him more awkward.

He leaves the cart in the middle of the fairway, runs and gets his ball, and all of a sudden

you're like, look at this fucking asshole.

He's running back to his cart.

You start getting aggravated with the guy in front of you.

The guy in front of you is ruining your day.

Slow play guy can ruin basically the entire ecosystem of a golf course for the day.

That's right.

You're right, Hank.

It's like there's certain – some guys will just have no awareness on how to move the day along. So they'll just leave the cart and then they'll go with a couple clubs and move forward with a couple couple swings and then they have to come back they have to run all the way back and get the car park that cart like on top of the oh no that's perfect that's what you should be doing move move keep going all right good all right next pick for you guys um the other one yeah yeah country club elitist walking on eggshells type of guy went to a i went to a place pretty stuffy really like nerve-wracking type of Me and my buddy, we introduced ourselves.
I said, hey, I'm Frankie. The guy goes, hey, I'm Rob.
And he goes, you guys aren't members, are you? And I said, no. He goes, you know how I knew? You didn't say your last name to me.
Oh, that's because they wanted to find out if you were a Jew or not. That's exactly what it was.
They weren't going to let you in. What are we doing here, man? We've been to places, and we've been lucky enough to play some of the best courses ever.
I love it. And don't get me wrong.
I'll never take it for granted. But sometimes it's too much where you're like, I'd rather just be playing at my old municipal golf course, hopping the fence with my dad, than have to walk around this place, take the hat off when you sit down.
There's a place on Long Island where you can't walk into the clubhouse unless you're wearing a sport coat. So guys are walking around in loafers, shorts, and sport coats.
And the clubhouse is three feet long. So you literally wear the sport coat, walk through the clubhouse, take the sport coat off, and then you have to go get your dog shirt on.
Do you think that in 30 years that will kind of be gone a little bit? Because that is very an old school thing that I think might be dying off, but no. I hope so.
You have douchebag kids that are following in their dad's footsteps footsteps and they're worse than that yeah you're right yeah there's always going to be rich people right that's what i just don't know they're always going to want to feel rich yeah yeah you're right trent hates that more than i do you're fucking like i'm fucking it feels weird going in those places yeah because i don't enjoy myself i end up like i don't want to do anything wrong but i'm also like i don't think i'm actually doing anything wrong you guys have created this system of rules that is so stupid that I don't want to do anything wrong, but I'm also like, I don't think I'm actually doing anything wrong. You guys have created this system of rules that is so stupid that I don't want to be here anymore.
I'd rather just go play somewhere where I can just have fun. They can smell the poor on you, too.
You know it. Imagine the level of clean cut you have to be to look at Frankie Borelli and be like, that guy doesn't belong.
It's another level. Yeah, exactly.
All right, good pick. All right, your last two picks, guys.
We're going to go with guy who takes a gimme putt On a putt that's not a gimme Also the reverse It's an awkward thing Especially if you're playing a match and they just kind of pick it up This is friendly But also I had honorable mention the reverse of that guy Who won't give any gimme putts Like if you're two feet two feet away, he's like, no, you've got to putt that out. You're like, are you serious right now? That guy sucks.
That's an awkward moment. Gimme putt police in general.
Yeah, either way. Or suck.
I do like, though, every now and then just, I mean, that's a good joke. When you're, like, 40 feet away, you're like, it is good, right? Yeah.
Good, good. That's just good golf humor.
This is from Jake. I think this is extremely relatable to Florida and I guess maybe country club golf, but the guy who drives too close to the greens and gets the cart stuck.
I feel like that's only in the nice golf carts that actually have the GPS and then you can shut down on you. You can only go in reverse.
That's bad. I would actually say that that actual system is the worst part of golf going right now.
The GPS system that stops you when you get too close to the fescue. You can't go forward anymore.
So then you have to reverse back and going backwards in a car goes one mile an hour. You're always motherfucking that thing.
Now, Jake, how do you, though, like, you're a huge Trump guy and he does that. No, I'm not.
What? No, I'm not. Oh, okay.
That's the other guy. I actually love when trump drives on the green yeah that's the other guy i think he should be allowed to drive on the greens yeah when he drives on the greens i laugh every time yeah he's the only person in the world that shouldn't be allowed to do it we played uh trump ferry point it's right over here by the um by the bridge and there's a sign there that says he made a hole in one on the first day it ever opened yeah yeah it's just the wind right the wind was like it had the wind even play the super wind the truth is he didn't even play the hole i think he only played nine holes that's like the 12th hole yeah yeah we came back he goes it was an amazing shot we actually we talked to michael cohen about that we asked him that question he's like he's got a lot of holes in one that nobody ever saw yeah the best part is he played with people that are like no he didn't yeah but stands forever.
Imagine that lie. The plaque stands forever.
Yeah, there's a plaque there. Once it's a plaque, it's fact.
True. So they actually, the plaque was in the ground.
It's got your name on it. You can say whatever you want.
The plaque was in the ground, and I think people were pissing on it, so they moved it to a post. Jeez.
It's crazy. They said it was smelling like piss.
That's hilarious. Oh, you know who a great golf guy is? The guy that pisses outdoors on the first hole.
Like right off the bat. It's like I'm not even a beer deep yet.
And you know what? Nature's calling. Got to take a leak in the woods.
Okay, your guy's last pick. Good pick, Hank and Team Hank.
Yeah, that's a good one. Jake, were you close to the green when you drove the golf cart off that bridge? No, I can show the picture.
But I like seventh grade i was driving at a charity golf tournament i wasn't looking drove it off a bridge flipped it over and i was stuck underwater for like a minute and who saved you what i was like succession and jake who saved you uh trump a guy at the top golf tournament i was driving alongside a former mlb pitcher because it was a celebrity charity golf tournament that my dad was helping run and i was 13 13 years old and I was trapped under. It was crazy.
Yeah, Ted Kennedy would have been like, he's gone, can't save him. Let's go to the party.
Who is it? What picture was it? What is his name? Instagram plug? No, my Instagram. Yeah, like, why can't you just tell us? No, the picture I'm saying.
No, but who was the Major League Baseball player? Oh, Chris Hammond, former pitcher. What I'm saying, if you go to the bottom of my Instagram is the picture.
Nice. That's crazy.
That's a little treasure taunt. Yeah.
This TV's really hard to watch golf. Yeah.
There's a white dot in the middle. We've already been fucked up a few times.
I was looking at that. I'm like, what's that ball moving so fast? There's like a light now.
This cameraman's incredible keeping it directly in the center of the shot the entire time. I once had my cousin going full speed in a golf cart.
It was like a game of chicken where I was like, oh, he's going to move. He just did not move.
Probably a good thing. It was like a family outing, and my mom came sprinting around the corner.
He was dead. He was fine, but it was...
Dude, remember your history? It was hard. Your history with golf carts getting hit.
Dave was really... Oh, that was one of my honorable mentions.
Guys who don't think it's funny to hit each other with golf carts. Remember how bad that got with Riggs and Dave was like, I want you guys to be posting stuff, and you guys were like, we're not posting anything.
Those videos were funny, though. They were so funny.
You got lucky, though, that nobody actually killed each other. I agree with both sides.
Yeah, right, exactly. I don't think it's...
I don't think it's... You shouldn't hit your friends with a golf cart.

But every time I saw the video, I laughed.

Yes.

Every single time.

Wasn't there a bounty on Riggs?

Yeah.

Five or ten grand.

There's like a $10,000 prize. Dave was like...

They were getting to the point where they were actually running over people.

I was like...

Well, Riggs was like, I can't golf anymore.

I keep hearing a cart and I look over my shoulder.

I think Riggs said that if someone hit him with a cart,

he would actually shoot them.

All right, your guy's last pick.

Yeah, the one we want to go with?

Handicap Police.

Oh, yeah. Very specific to us.

You've got to know where to park.

And more specific to Frankie and Riggs

because they're genuinely pretty good golfers,

so the handicap is low. And then when you put your swing and your game on the internet and they see a couple of bad shots, people are like, you're not actually a 7 or an 8.
You're actually a 15. It's the worst.
I would go insane if I were you guys. Dude, it's actually bad.
We can't post a video without everyone being like, this guy says he's an 8. It's like, well, I'm actually just doing what the handicap system does.
So the handicap system is you put it in. You just input all your scores you basically put your scorecard in the app and it just delivers you a number you're an 8.9 you're a 9.2 and everyone thinks that like if you're a 9 if you're a 9 or 10 that you shoot an 82 every time because that's right over par but that's not how the handicap system works the handicap number is it's your best possible round over your last 20 so it's like saying saying if you played the best ever today, you'd shoot an 82.
But that also means you could shoot a 95. Right.
Or you could shoot a 79. Let's go off.
So everyone just doesn't understand that. It might just be the most complicated system in the history of the world.
It is. But, like, it's the only thing we get.
Like, you're not a 9. You're actually an 18.
I'm talking every single person and it's just like I would go and say handicapped police is just a fucking worse and then when you finally have a good round you like want to call to them right you see this one did you count every shot here yeah they're also just there's internet forums that are like dedicated to people that are in charge of like looking up potential like handicapped misuse by people it becomes like a true detective thing and they do the same thing thing in distance running, where you'll have these forums that are tracking people's GPS, looking at their times. Same way in golf.
It's like, okay, I figured out this person's been lying about their handicap, and they feel like they get a little feather in their cap for that. Yeah.
You guys should figure out, it'd be great if we could figure out a way, like the bar stool, maybe the comment section, where specifically on your posts, if someone wants to critique your swing it like has a gif of their swing well i wanted to do so to barstool classic this has been my dream is when they sign up i'm probably giving it away now when they sign up we ask them for their twitter and instagram handle and just say like oh we just want to do something for social and then i'm sitting on a t-box with everyone's twitter and i type in my name and anything if i find a guy that's talked shit about me i bring it up right before he hits and i say like let's see it now yeah and then we just say it's just like a roast of all these guys that have just been talking shit about us forever i think we're gonna do it yeah it will like curb people critiquing everything if their golf swing sucks 100 right oh yes i love that it's that. It's a good idea.
Okay, our last pick.

Okay, our last pick for annoying golf guys.

I think we go with the one.

I got one.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

He's an annoying golf guy.

He is annoying.

He's just ruined the game of golf for everybody, really.

He's probably the most annoying golf guy,

and if he hears me say this, he'll probably saw my arms off.

Yes.

He's got to be.

What are your thoughts on the Crown Prince?

I know.

I agree with you guys.

I don't like him i think everything's i think the whole thing's weird but i also um are you just gonna cover the live tour like it's like what are you gonna do i don't know what you can do if it starts to become a real thing right even rory mccleroy who is the prince of the pga tour came out last like, listen, at this point, if it's helping golf, it's just helping golf. I also think it's going to help the PGA force them to have to adapt.
Which would be good. But also you can say that the guy that murders people is bad.
He's bad. Two things can be true.
Bad golf guy. Yeah, bad golf guy.
Phil Mickelson accomplished what he wanted to accomplish. He made the PGA Tour better.
What, paying off his debts? Oh. Like, all right, that was definitely what he wanted to accomplish.
Yeah, that's 100% what he wanted to accomplish. He had like a list of commandments that he wanted from the fucking PGA Tour, and now they're just checking off the list.
They're giving more money on purses. The Pitt program was a perfect example of that.
They're just trying to pay the higher ranked guys. And you do see it where the pga tour and all these majors like oh they just happen to find more money now the purses are bigger like that was part of phil's point was like we want more money we know you guys have more money but you were holding it for yourselves and now that live is offering you know a billion dollars a tournament the pga tour to try to fight that is like oh no we can we can wool up our purses a little bit.
Right. So it did to a degree, Phil Mickelson, what he did worked.
He just had to completely torpedo his entire reputation. If I was on the tour right now, I would definitely, my investment habits, my spinning habits would be way more reckless, knowing that in my back pocket, I've always got to live tour.
Yeah. Don't write me a check one day if push comes to shove.
Did you see someone scream to Phil today at the open something about live and he's like, will you just drop it? I'm loving life right now. Like my life is great.
Yeah, it is. That is the live and life love.
Alright, any honorable mentions? This was a great Mount Rushmore. Jeff Shackelford, worst guy in golf.
Yep, that's a good one. I've got Dude Perfect.
Yep, specifically in Amen's Corner. They defiled Augusta.
Along those same lines, I had that guy that you golf with sometimes that wears a silly hat and takes steroids. That guy? You know that guy? Yeah, I think I know that guy.
That guy, I'm familiar with him. I'm familiar with that guy.
Excuse maker. There's always something that was wrong with the putt.
The wind blew on that one. Or there was a divot or something.
There's always a guy that he didn't do the wrong thing. It was everything else.
We're all bad. So if you can just admit that you're bad, it makes things a lot easier.
It's not the wind. It's not the break of the green.
It's none of that. We're all pretty bad at this thing.
It's a hard sport. Similar to the gimme guys, the guy that'll just giving them right down the wrong score.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a five.
I had that. Yeah, the air counter was like two, three, four.
I wanted to do that, but that used to be me. I used to veto on that one because I am that guy sometimes.
Really? I mean, I'm actually like one. You're in the pros.
Two. Yeah, sometimes they do.
And the better you get, the less you do it. But when I was really, really really bad i would be on like shot nine and i'd be like i gotta go through this again because there's been so many yeah so that guy i vetoed that one for ours yeah i just want to say before you guys leave i love your golf tans you guys have incredible look at look at those forearms compared to the top of the arm that's incredible those are great i have a really bad one on my head too too.
Like, it's just right here. Like, if you see me in, like, a knot with all the bright lights, it just goes right across, and everything's just white up here.
It's really bad. My last one was a guy who won't play rigs in a one-on-one challenge because he thinks he can be a pro golfer someday.
Shout out, Whitney. Oh, my God.
It's so good. That was the best saga ever.
Ever. I'm going to Yeah I'm gonna lose my status Yeah and he was He was also at A movie with his kid And he left the movie theater He left his kid inside Dude and then his kid was crying In the backseat of the car He's like now my kid's crying You're making me curse In front of my child He's a fucking man Nobody took to getting the whole guy Listen you fucking I like getting the whole guy Maybe not at a golf event, but I like getting the whole guy.
Because it's like you're cheering on your friends. Unless it's obviously your shot.
No, I meant at the golf tournament. Mashed potatoes, they say.
Getting the hole in a par five. Blink of the year.
There's one that is very specific to actually playing with people. And it's when you hit a bad shot and everyone says it's a good shot oh no like when you hit a drive and everyone's like oh good one and like it's starting to leak way left and way off now all of a sudden it's out of bounds it's like well like we don't have to sugarcoat how bad of a shot that what if you're putting a lot too like if you miss a putt like oh that was a good putt it's like no it actually it wasn't at all and like sometimes you want to be a dick and be like, no, it wasn't.
Wait, but so do you not like that? I say that all the time with randoms, though. I'm like the king of being like, oh, nice roll.
I'm just trying to be friendly and shit. It's awkward.
I don't do it with my friends, but if I'm with randoms, I'm like, oh, nice roll. That guy under his breath is like, no, it wasn't a fucking good shit.
No, yeah. But I say you're going to love that to pretty much every shot.
Yeah. Is that okay? It depends.
That guy, if he's continuously hitting bad shots and you keep saying you're going to love that, he's going to be like, I don't love any of these. Yeah, but it's funny when you completely slice one in the woods.
You're like, oh, you're going to love that. I like that.
You're trying to accomplish something else there. I like that.
I'm definitely on the list of bad golf. Hank and I, when we were out in Vegas, there was one guy who hit it in in the sand and he was like playing through and he came up.
I was like, yeah, you're in the sand right here. He could see that he was in the sand.
He was hitting him in the inside. I was like, yeah, great air in the sand.
He knew he was in the sand. Great putter though.
Yeah. I was putting well that day.
Uh, all right. Thank you, boys.
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Sad about Tiger. What's the cut going to be? He just made a birdie.
He's got a birdie. He's not even going to be close.
No, he's got to shoot his balls off. He's got to really turn off the lead right now.
If anybody's capable, Tiger is. That's right.
Go see Frankie and PFT. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Pop Pug. So it's July 29th, Atlantic City, Anchor Rock Club.
Yep. Frankie's a drummer.
Frankie, you're going to sing for us too, right? I'm going to sing a little bit. It's going to be an amazing venue.
I looked up the pictures. Anchor Rock Club is awesome.
And then in New York City, July 6th? August 6th. August 6th.
Gramercy Theater. Gramercy Theater.
So yeah, go look at our socials. We have all the links for the tickets up there.
It's going to be fun. I love getting back on stage.
It's going to be a good time. It is.
All right, thanks, Thanks again guys. We were nervous for this big time.
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Good job, Hank.

Thank you.

Okay, we'll wrap up this week with Firefest of the week.

By the way, on Monday, the return of Billy Football with the Mount Rushmore.

He will be back in the fold.

So get excited for that if you're a Billy fan.

And if you're not, tough shit. He's back.
He's back. Yeah, you can just not listen to the end of the show then.
Yeah, that's fine. But also listen to the end of the show still, please.
Hank, your fire fest. My fire fest is that I am just a world-class procrastinator.
It's really just my life is a fire fest. My brain is a fire fest.
You're a professional procrastinator. Yes.
I'm moving Monday. I haven't packed a single thing.
And I've had this whole week. This whole week, I was like, all right, I'm going to slowly get my shit together, pack it all up.
I have the time. And then I've just gone home every night this week and played video games.
It's impossible to pack when it's more than two and a half days out. Yeah.
And in your defense, moving sucks. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't like everybody procrastinates to a certain point when it comes to moving because there's nothing fun about the moving process.
And the worst part about what you're about to go through, Hank, is like when you finally mentally get to a point where it's like, all right, time to pack. And you tell yourself, oh, this isn't that bad.
And then you get into it and you're like, oh,, this is a lot of stuff. Yeah, like I wish I had more time to go through all this shit.
There's so many little things that you forget about moving that you're just like, oh, no, all I got to do is get my plates and my bed, and I'm good. No, no, there's so much more.
You got to put the- Getting new stuff, canceling. Yeah, changing addresses.
Changing addresses. The worst, I think, is the kitchen part, where you have to put the pieces of paper between all the plates so they don't break.
I don't think Hank's not doing that. Oh, you did? I did that last time.
Really? Last year, yeah. Damn.
Okay. Good for you.
Why don't you just hire a mover? I have to do that, too. I've been talking.
I was talking to a moving company last week, and they're like yeah that should be fine we'll give you a call back and then in my head i was like boom locked in and then i was driving back from the hamptons like i never heard back and then i realized like i still need to get a moving company so yeah and that's all like it's all these are things that i've had more than enough time like it's not it's not like uh this is something that snuck up on me it's just almost that i had too much time yeah that actually it's it's it's time's fault yeah for giving you too much again it's my brain you know just my my crush professional procrastinating is yeah what do you think is the perfect amount of time for you to know that you have to move in five days five days yeah because then it's like five days we could move let's make moves you do a little stuff here and there because i yeah like this was like i had technically i had two weeks obviously last week i wasn't here but i was like yeah here's an idea i have all next week for this week it was like whoa you're fucked what if what if they made an invention that was just called like the apartment bag where you could put everything in your apartment to one giant bag And then slide that out the door Like on four wheels? Yeah, but maybe not in four wheels Maybe it's got something on the bottom But just a bag that you can throw everything into And then just pull it into your new apartment Hank, I'm confused You're moving, but it's not the end of the month Yeah, that's a whole another story fire fest that i'm not even gonna get into but what happened it's it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what happened you got a couple places though yeah current yeah right now i got multiple properties yeah wait hank doesn't that mean that you have 15 more days to move all your stuff out yeah that would i gotta be on monday are you sure i'm extremely sure what'd they do they were like you have to be on monday and i was like what did you pay for the full month no oh okay yeah that's probably why yeah that's definitely why okay all right that's good fire i mean moving is just the worst thing like why don't they say it to be on friday whatever it's it's it's a it's a it's it's i've had issues with my building this entire time i've lived here and I'm happy to be out of there. I'll put it that way.
All right. All right.
PFT, your fire fest. My fire fest is I, I feel bad for the listeners because I fucked up.
Billy. Oh, no.
That's Monday's fire fest. I feel bad because I fucked up and on Wednesday's show, I did not say I love you guys.
Oh. Usually when that happens- I actually was thinking that in real time, but you kind of ended on such a high note that I was like, you didn't want to- How did we end that show? You ended with the seal joke again.
Oh, yeah, the callback. Yeah.
Yeah, I was too perfect of a callback, but in my defense, I was very high, and I forgot. Yeah.
So it's not that I forgot that I loved you guys. It's that there was an imbalance between what my brain was thinking and then the words that were coming out of my mouth.
Things people forget. At one point I had to like call Bubba over and be like, hey, Bubba, remember that thing that we talked about? Because I couldn't even express the words to him of like what we talked about.
But I just, I forgot. It's not that I don't love you guys.
I do love you guys. And whenever that happens, I get, that's probably the most like heads up that i get of anything that ever happens on the show there will be like probably a hundred people that tell me hey do you still love me i don't think that you love me so don't be so needy guys yeah well no it's okay to be needy like we're expressing our emotions so we don't say it enough as men and as women to each other i love you guys and i i can't blame hank or bubba for editing out and making a mistake.
My mouth edited it out. My mouth did a bad job editing my brain.
You stopped loving them. I didn't stop.
Not for a fucking second. Well, it sounds like you did because your brain was so high you forgot to love them.
No, not the case. I love you guys.
Don't ever forget it. I'm going to say it multiple times today.
I love you guys. Okay, so mine is about that episode as well.

For the few, the proud who heard us as chipmunks when they woke up on Wednesday morning, that sucked. What sucked even more was I think this is another sign that I'm probably addicted to content too much.
I woke up at 5 in the morning just out of a dead sleep, looked at my phone and saw like the first two tweets were like, is this the minions episode? And why do you guys sound like chipmunks? And then I just didn't go back to sleep because we were trying to fix it. And it's just like, why, why did my brain have to do that? Why did my brain have to have like a subconscious alarm go off being like, Hey, something's wrong with the part of my take upload? That's also maybe the funniest episode for it to happen to.
Yeah. We're all just like stoned out of our gorge at the end.
It was crazy. Because I was like, oh, no, people are just listening at 4X or 2X, whatever you listen to.
No, no, no. We literally sounded like chipmunks.
Apologies. It was something about the ad insertion.
So it wasn't even us. It was upstairs.
So actually, it was us.

It was Hank.

It was upstairs had something wrong, so it's not our fault.

I heard somebody play a clip of the show where it was the fast version but slowed down to halftime.

That was very funny because it didn't even sound normal. It sounded like drunk chipmunks.

Yeah, but the whole idea of us going out early for the mini golf tournament was we didn't have to wake up at five in the morning to take a bus from Manhattan. And then I ended up waking up at five in the morning anyway.
So that was awesome. That's that baby alarm.
Yeah. It fucked me up.
It fucked me up. That's not the baby.
My kids sleep well. It was the chipmunk alarm.
Somehow went off my brain. Spidey sense.
Yeah. It was just me and Big Cat in our boxers at five in the morning.
I was standing in their room. Delirious trying to be like, why do we sound like chipmunks right now yeah and liam had gone to sleep like an hour before because he was editing the show so he had one hour of sleep and i kept on i would be like hey can you re-upload it and he's like yeah i got it and then i'd go back to my room and then i'd come back like three minutes later and he was back asleep because it was so it was fucking five in the morning but yeah i was just standing in my boxers in his room being like we got to figure this out we gotta solve the chipmunk the chipmunks have infiltrated us you'll see other podcasters doing that just remember that we care we care maybe too much sometimes all right jake finish us off yeah so a few weeks ago my fire fest was that i left my sand wedge a few holes prior had to go back and get it this time i remembered it this happened last week when i was home in florida uh but when i picked up the sand wedge that i was bringing i put it in a red ant pile oh no i got only one bite somehow but i have a picture of it it was they were like a dozen of them on my grip bryson would have had a stroke no way what did you just wipe them off i took water and dumped on dumped it on and it was bad i can't believe i only got one bite yeah one bite one bite you uh everybody knows the rules yeah have you ever stood in an amp pile before no because sometimes when you stand in one you don't realize that you're in one until you get that first bite and you look down at your leg and it just fucking covered in fire ants yeah and that will ruin your day yeah so i i don't know what to do with my wedge these days yeah hopefully i can just put it on the green and i'll take it out yeah there you go that's your fault for having to keep using it all right thank god only one bite i know crazy i'll also never promise a six pack during the summer ever again oh no you're close hank you're so close.
I never saw that one coming. You're so close.
I am. I'm getting there, but.
No, you're not. No, you're doing great, sweetie.
No, I am. Yeah, you are.
I'm on the road there. I don't think you genetically can get a six pack.
Absolutely. Not everyone can get one.
The problem is, Hank, this is your last year to have a six packpack without it being weird. Yeah, but the wintertime I can grind.
You're not going to get a six-pack in the winter. Yeah, that's going to work.
Yeah, wintertime. I was going hard.
May, June, and then just the summer happened. Golf took over.
Why don't you do crunches every hole you get to? 30 crunches in a tee box. Why don't you just walk instead of taking a cart? I do walk sometimes.
Or incentive. Any three putt.
Any three putt. Crunches.
You're not going to do it. All right.
Numbers. I think you look great, Hank.
Hank, you ever gotten this before? Oh, wait. Put that back.
Spoiler. Oh, you just said it out loud.
Spoiler. No.
Okay. I'm going to go with 44.
Okay. I'm going to go 88.
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This counts.

There we go.

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It's official.

All right.

Love you guys.

Otters are necrophiliacs. I'm talking away I don't know what I'm to say I say it's anyway Today'sly day to find you.

Shining away, I'll be coming for your love, okay? Shining away, I'll be coming for your love, okay? Take on me

Take me on I'll be gone And I'll tell you how to Needless to say I'm on the sentence But I'll be so a little way Tell the limit that life is okay. Say up to me.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Say up to me.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Take on me.

Take me on

I'll be gone Who do I do?

I do.

Hard things that you say Is it lightbulb Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember He's shinin' away I'll be comin' for you anyway He's shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway.
He's shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me

Take me

Oh Take me up

I'll be gone

In empty I'll become

In a day