CFB Realignment With Andy Staples, Djokovic The GOAT, Zach Wilson May Have That Dog In Him Plus Mt Rushmore Of CFB Traditions

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Speaker 1 On today's Part and My Take, we have our good friend Andy Staples to talk college football realignment and Mount Rushmore of college football traditions.

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We're going to talk a little tennis.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little,

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Speaker 1 F1. We got some quarterback news for the DX.
Baker, where are you?

Speaker 1 Milf Hunter, Baker. We're in some, we're in some dog days, but we're gonna grind it out.
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Speaker 1 and Novak Djokovic is the goat.

Speaker 1 What's the other guy's name? Kurdios? Yeah,

Speaker 1 Kyrios. Kyrios.
Kyrios. I liked it.
Leather Kyros. Yeah, nice try.

Speaker 1 He's an an interesting guy. Yeah.
He was wearing a tank top, but also had a sleek shirt underneath. It was the Matt Rule.
Yeah, it was, it was quite, and the backwards hat with the brim pointed up.

Speaker 1 He is the bad boy at tennis. Oh, yeah.
His flowchart goes like either scream at his opponent because he just won a point or scream at whoever's closest to him because he just lost a point. Right.

Speaker 1 And it couldn't possibly be his fault. He blamed some drunk woman.
He tried to get her kicked out. That was the queen.
Yeah. It was.
Said some woman in a dress that looks like she's had 700 beers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's it's just talking too much.

Speaker 1 Maybe you were just going up against the goat, Novak Jokovich. It was funny hearing John McEnroe have to dissect Curios'

Speaker 1 manners, which is crazy because it's like that's John McEnroe watching John McEnroe. At one point, after like the 700 drinks with that woman in the dress comment, McEnroe was like, it's actually just

Speaker 1 a child that doesn't know that he's not allowed to speak. Right.
And I like Kyrios because

Speaker 1 you like anyone who's their own worst enemy. Athletes who are their own worst enemy.
It feels like he's a mental head case.

Speaker 1 And Novak Djokovic, the goat officially passes Roger Federer in championships, major championships, one away from Nadal, who just wins Mickey Mouse Clay ones every single time.

Speaker 1 Well, he had to withdraw due to injury. Yeah, which actually hurt Djokovic because he had to play a guy who had extra rest.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But I think it's firmly established. He is the GOAT.

Speaker 1 What say you, Jake? Go ahead and try to come at me. You can't.
Well,

Speaker 1 he was the goat of Wimbledon. Nope.
But he's still trailing

Speaker 1 by one. And all Rafa does is win on Clay.
And also, they tried to keep my mans out of Australia. And that's why Nadal won Australia.
And he might not be playing here in New York next month.

Speaker 1 That would be a shame. He's going to end up with 30.
There might not be any big three in... U.S.
Open. Why? Oh, because Jokovich, are we still keeping him out? Roger's hurt.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ryder's old. Forget Roger.
As of right now, Djokovic isn't allowed in the United States, and we don't know if Rafa is going to recover from his injury in time.

Speaker 1 Bad boy. Bad boy life.
Could be wide open. What's the stat? Because it's something crazy.
Like, the last 75 major championships have had, it's like 65 of them. It's actually.

Speaker 1 They have had one of the big three in it. It's actually just the stat that just reminds you that Andy Murray won a Wimbledon championship.
Yeah. Because that's always, it's like you see all the names.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh yeah, Andy Murray. That was cool.
And it's like that, what was it, AFC quarterback Super Bowl stat? It was like every Super Bowl had Brady Payton or someone else.

Speaker 1 And there was one Flacco. Yeah.
That was the only one. It was like a teammate of Shaq's was in the finals for every year for like 40 years in a row.
Oh.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, that's soccer tennis.
I mean, it was the major sport event

Speaker 1 today. No, I mean,

Speaker 1 something about Wimbledon. You just get romantic about it.
I do love the Ball Boys. The Ball Boys are like on their shit at Wimbledon.

Speaker 1 They're like very specific movements that they're allowed to make after certain points. They have like, I don't know,

Speaker 1 it looks like they're soldiers because they have to be standing like a certain posture.

Speaker 1 Their right hand has to go at like a certain angle when they're delivering the balls.

Speaker 1 It's nice. It's nice to see how the Brits clean up sometimes.
I did watch,

Speaker 1 I think it was almost three full games. Sets.
No, no games. I said it correctly.
I watched almost three full games.

Speaker 1 I'm pissed off that they took away the fifth set tiebreaker rule where they had the tiebreaker that could go on in Isn't there Mini? Yeah. 2010.
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 Isn't there Mahoot? Yeah. And it lasted three days.
768. They were the Syracuse Yukon of Wimbledon.
See, I like that. That's cool to have an event that could, like, in theory, extend into infinity.

Speaker 1 Now, it's a super tiebreaker. Super tiebreakers.
They tried to trick us. They tried to trick us by putting the word super in front of it.
Oh, but they played a 10 instead of seven.

Speaker 1 A super tiebreaker should be just the tiebreaker that goes on days. Yeah.
And a goal of mine is just going to never learn what the super tiebreaker is. It's really not a mission.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Don't tell it to me. I don't want want to know.
All right, don't listen. They played a tenant single.
No, stop. Are they still doing the thing where they do like the mixed doubles championship after?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, the ladies' doubles was after the gentleman's singles. That's kind of nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like that. They should play the NIT championship right after the final four.
That's got to be demoralizing. There's no way people stay for that.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I've got a whimbled in, bro. They stay for the strawberries and the cream.
I hope so. And the white linens.
You got to. And the day before, they do the men's doubles with the women's singles.

Speaker 1 Ah, little switcheroo. Yeah.
I like that. Okay, so that was talking tennis.

Speaker 1 Real sports news. Baker Mayfield is now a Carolina Panther.

Speaker 1 The Carolina Panthers are. I might have to become a fan of them because they now have the first and third pick

Speaker 1 from that 2018 draft. I think they had the fourth pick in that draft, or the Browns had the fourth pick.
The Browns had the first and the fourth, and they still screwed it up.

Speaker 1 And the Panthers now are ending up with the first and the third with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, which how can they super team? And Corral. They are a super team, too.
Super team.

Speaker 1 They're a dynasty in the midfield.

Speaker 1 Cam Newton comes back. They have two first-round picks at quarterback, number one ones at quarterback.
It's funny to watch how the Panthers have operated since Tepper has become their owner.

Speaker 1 They're just in a constant state of panic. Like every offseason, they're like, we got to make a big splash.
Yeah. And they never do make a big splash.
They try to.

Speaker 1 I actually like Baker on the Panthers. Yeah, I do.
I do, too.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm an idiot, but I think that Baker is still, like, he could be a top 12 quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 that's about where he's at. I mean, like, Cleveland forgets how dog shit their franchise has been for such a long time.
He came in. I wouldn't call him a bust.

Speaker 1 Like, I saw people calling Baker Mayfield a bust. I don't think he's a bust at all.
I think that he was hurt last year. He got the Browns the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They won a playoff game. They won.
They won a playoffs.

Speaker 1 They beat the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Yes. And I think Baker had an awesome game against the Steelers.
They almost...

Speaker 1 No, they didn't almost beat the Chiefs. They were kind of.

Speaker 1 They almost beat the Chiefs in the regular season. Earlier, that's...
No, that was the next season. Yeah, the next season.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, Baker almost won multiple playoff games, some of them not in the actual playoffs. Baker was great up until like week three where he injured his shoulder against the Texans, I think.

Speaker 1 His body became broken. His body turned on himself.
Yes. And Baker, he's a guy that's a big chip on a shoulder guy.
And then guess who they get to play? Week one. The Panthers play the Browns.

Speaker 1 Love one. this league.
I do like what the Panthers are doing, the strategy.

Speaker 1 They are a fantasy football commissioner or a team owner, like run amok, where it's like, I screwed up this draft, so I'm just going to try to get as many names that I can recognize on my roster.

Speaker 1 And one of them has to produce. You know what the Panthers

Speaker 1 end up producing? They're doing the redrafts. Yeah.
The Panthers every year are like constantly in a state of redrafting. Right.

Speaker 1 It's like, we don't know what we're going to do, so we're just going to throw as many options at the wall, and someone has to work out.

Speaker 1 A little spoiler alert: no one's going to work out, but someone has to work out. I do think that Baker wearing the Carolina Panthers jersey is going to be an all-time weird sight.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like that, those color schemes don't really, they don't scream Baker Mayfield. No, they definitely don't.
And then the other quarterback news: Zach Wilson may or may not be a dog.

Speaker 1 I think confirmed got that dog in him. Yeah, he is a dog who's got a dog in him.

Speaker 1 But he puts a dog in other people. The cougar

Speaker 1 had that dog in him. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 So there's a rumor out there not totally not substantiated other than uh started an instagram comment yeah all right so so here's how here's the the quick backstory zach wilson's best friend in college uh zach wilson had a girlfriend in college zach wilson's best friend who's now on the washington commanders wide receiver uh is now dating zach wilson's ex-girlfriend so uh his recent not his girlfriend college yeah like his girlfriend is most recent so zach wilson's best friend dating zach wilson's ex-girlfriend uh then

Speaker 1 someone got into Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend's Instagram comment said, homie Hopper,

Speaker 1 and she replied and was like, homie Hopper, how about the fact that Zach Wilson is banging his mom's best friend?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 if it's a lie, it's honestly hilarious either way.

Speaker 1 If it's the truth, two consenting adults, what's the problem? Go for it. And then Makai Bechton from the Jets, he tweeted out, that's my quarterback.

Speaker 1 I think this actually will get Zach Wilson more respect in the locker room. My big takeaway from this is it's kind of an eye-opening moment for me.
I think Mormons fuck.

Speaker 1 I think Mormons fuck a lot more

Speaker 1 than we're led on to believe. Yeah.
Now, do you think they just soaked? Ooh. If they just soaked, I don't think he doesn't have that dog in him.

Speaker 1 I need some friction. I need a few thrusts.
Well, I don't think he's not a full Mormon himself.

Speaker 1 He's not a practicing Mormon. Well, clearly.

Speaker 1 But I think there's a lot of swinging that goes on in Utah. Well, there's definitely like, you know,

Speaker 1 like, it's one of those, yeah, it's like the craziest state probably in the country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that the Mormons are just like,

Speaker 1 the entire state is on some weird ass, like. They're always on the weird shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think that they've pulled the wool over our eyes.

Speaker 1 I think that everyone just like assumes Mormons don't fuck till they get married and then they just fuck all the time. I think that Mormons are low-key fucking all the time.
All the time.

Speaker 1 They've just been under the radar. But Zach Wilson, like,

Speaker 1 he's got that dog in him. That's a ballsy move.
Your mom's best friend. If it was true, we don't know.
But if it were true, that's a ballsy move. And I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're a Jets fan, you got to be like, okay, we got ourselves a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I also think everybody out there is like looking at pictures of Zach Wilson's mom and doing the math, like, well, she's pretty hot. So I would assume that her friend is hot, too.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Dog.

Speaker 1 Hot girls hang out together. That's a fact.
No matter what age. Dog.
Dog. Dog.
Wasn't there a...

Speaker 1 There was also like a few months ago, he was spotted in Florida with some may call, shout out Ben Mintz, a MILF,

Speaker 1 man I love football.

Speaker 1 And so he might have a thing for the older ladies. Who cares? Consenting adults, again, dog.
Responsible. He might also just be married to all of them.
Yeah, that's true. You don't know.
That works.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So the Jets, I feel like, yeah,

Speaker 1 this is actually a good news for the Jets. They're in the news, and it's not a total disaster.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you go from having maybe the lamest sex sex scandal of all time, which is like Sam Darnold got mono from making out in Barn Hobo

Speaker 1 to like, okay, Zach Wilson, confirmed stick man. Yeah, confirmed dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I agree. I think the Jets are on the come up.
You got to be a little nervous, huh, Hank? No. What?

Speaker 1 It's the Jets. I'm just saying.
He was trying to

Speaker 1 Jack Mac, being like, please take this down. Yeah, I understand.
That is the softest

Speaker 1 shit I have ever heard. Sorry, Zach Wilson, but it's, I mean, it's Jack Mac.

Speaker 1 I think Zach Wilson probably freaked out in the moment, and then like 24 hours later, because really, when it actually's out there, it's out there.

Speaker 1 He was DMing Jack Mac, who is a blogger that works here. He does TikToks.
He's like a TikTok journalist. He's on everything.
He's a TikTok journalist. He does the face cam videos.
He breaks it down.

Speaker 1 And then if it's a big story, it goes viral. This was going viral.
And Zach Wilson, he's a Jets fan. Soft move by Jack Mac, too.
Jack Wilson was DMing a video.

Speaker 1 Please take this down. Please take this down.
But like, it's, it's, once it's out there, it's out there. Right.
Once it goes viral, everyone's gonna be talking about it.

Speaker 1 Okay, but I understand where Jack Mac was coming from because if it's like you're the first to it and then you feel like you're responsible for it and he's a Jets fan, Jack Mac needs to be applauded for his TikTok journalism.

Speaker 1 And Zach Wilson followed him and then afterwards, unfollowed him. Yeah, so Zach Wilson probably freaked out in the moment.
I bet you even after he took it down.

Speaker 1 I bet you he wakes up tomorrow and he's like, what's the big deal? Because it actually is like probably getting texts from his teammates.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Like in terms of actual scandals, this is not a scandal.
It is, it is two consenting adults. Again, maybe it's a little awkward for your mom now, but that's you know, deal with that.

Speaker 1 Maybe she's she's probably on some crazy shit, too. She's probably like, yo, she is hot.

Speaker 1 I know her. Yeah, because all women have seen each other's breasts.
I think the biggest scandal is that's a fact. That is a fact.
That's a fact. That's how they say hello.
It's a father.

Speaker 1 The biggest scandal here is like the former best friend. That's where it gets weird.
That is, that's probably what he was embarrassed about. Right.
He was like, this guy is now dating.

Speaker 1 I don't want to.

Speaker 1 I don't want that to get out there. But as far as like, oh,

Speaker 1 I'm banging a hot mom. Yeah.
Yeah. Dog.
Yeah. He might be on the injury report week one because he's going to have a broken hand from getting high fives.
Yeah. That's the number one porn category.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Allegedly.
Allegedly. I've heard.
Allegedly. But that's like, come on.
Zach Wilson? Good job, bro.

Speaker 1 All right. My perv family dude.
I mean,

Speaker 1 that is a headline. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mom's best friend bangs star quarterback. Yeah.
My perv family. Damn, Rex Ryan probably really wishing he was coaching him right now.
Lisa Ann is definitely going to make this into

Speaker 1 a porno, which would be great. Who's going to play Zach Wilson? See, that's the thing is.
Maybe Billy Football.

Speaker 1 Brandy Love could

Speaker 1 all big time.

Speaker 1 Billy's all. Actually, never mind.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Nope, my bad. Not.
No. I brought it up.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, so since you brought it up, I vote to unsuspend Billy Football from the podcast. No, I should have brought it up.
I should have brought it up.

Speaker 1 If he makes a porn dressed up like Zach Wilson and he's banging Brandy Love. Yes.
His suspension is up next week, but he can get time served. That's his appeal.

Speaker 1 If he does that, that's his appeal for you. Yes, yes, absolutely.
Or at least makes a deep fake of himself doing it. That would work too.

Speaker 1 Or he could just do a selfie video of him jerking off to Brandy Love. It does have an OnlyFans.
Yeah. Yeah.
P.O.V., you're Zach Wilson's mom's best friend. Just Billy sweating.

Speaker 1 Okay, other stories. Kevin Durant still doesn't have a new team.
I actually think the Nets should just keep him. Well, I think the Nets ideally would like to keep him.

Speaker 1 They're just doing the thing where they hope if they just wait for a while that Kevin Durant will change his mind. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like maybe something cool will happen in New York and Kevin Durant will be like, yeah, I want to stick around. Yeah.
That's pretty much it. That's the strategy.

Speaker 1 And at some point, there will be a team that does play hard. I mean, the Sixers tried to do it last year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I feel like the pendulum has swung so much in the direction of player empowerment that we're going to get one owner that's just going to be like, you know what? Fuck it. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 I'm not changing anything. Yeah.
And Josiah should do that. And then I'm trying to think what other stories.

Speaker 1 Baseball's still happening. Yeah.
The Angels suck so bad. I actually should read one of the funniest tweets ever that just keeps getting retweeted constantly on my timeline.

Speaker 1 Because the Angels, I think, have the worst record since May 25th. They're winning like 20% of their games.

Speaker 1 And this guy named Matt Tomek wrote, this was actually back in early May, before they fell off.

Speaker 1 He said, every time I see an Angels highlight, it's like Mike Trout hit three home runs and raised his average to 528, while Shohei Otani did something that hasn't been done since Tugston Arm O'Doyle of the 1921 Akron Groomsman as the Tigers defeated the Angels 8-3.

Speaker 1 That's every single game for the Angels. Yeah.
It's just cool highlights, and they lose every game. That's been the story of the Angels for, I feel like, the last.

Speaker 1 Ever since Mike Socha hasn't been their manager. So perfect.
Aaron Rodgers got a tattoo. He did.

Speaker 1 I'm put in a very tough situation. I was tagged a lot in it.
We were on vacation, so I was also trying to stay off my phone a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's the one spot spot where I've professed that I would like to someday be an

Speaker 1 older gentleman getting a tattoo, the first tattoo. So I'm not going to shame him, even though I looked at it and

Speaker 1 I think I could be arrested by the CIA just by looking at it. I'm trying to decipher it right now.
The best explanation I it looks like if an incubus song became a tattoo.

Speaker 1 It's got a globe on it. It's got one angry lion, one smiling lion, the eye of what's that eye that's on the dollar bill? The Illuminati.
That's kind of kind of the Illuminati. The Illuminati.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's in the Illuminati.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I was going to say, the reason why I wasn't shocked by it is because I've lived in Brooklyn for six years, so I've seen that tattoo every day when I went to go to coffee.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much what he did. He's got, it's a tattoo that was designed to impress Joe Rogan very clearly.
Yes. Some sort of picture.

Speaker 1 It's a tattoo that he wants you to be like, what is that about? And then you have to strap in for three hours. Mm-hmm.
Because he's going to tell you everything. Yeah.
Open your mind, open your heart.

Speaker 1 Tattoo. But again,

Speaker 1 I do, I like, eventually I would like to have a tattoo, and when that day comes, I know that I'll be opening myself up to criticism. This is like a tattoo of the inside of Kyrie Irving's brain.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Or what Kyrie Irving thinks his brain is. Yeah.
It's not actually Kyrie Irving's brain. If Kyrie Irving built his own brain in Minecraft,

Speaker 1 that's what this would look like. When Kyrie Irving looks into the mirror, he thinks that if he looks hard enough into his eyes, that's what's happening inside of his eyes.

Speaker 1 I need to know, though, is this on his left arm or his right arm? I think it's his left. Coward.
That's a coward move right there.

Speaker 1 If he was a baller, if he had that dog in him, he would put that on his throwing hand. Yeah, he would.
He would.

Speaker 1 And then the other sports story is Ferrari's back. It was a big day for me for sports I don't care about where I can just congratulate myself on trying to do.
I just saw there was a fire. That's cool.

Speaker 1 It was very cool. I like fires.

Speaker 1 It was also,

Speaker 1 it was...

Speaker 1 Carlos Signs, so the other Ferrari guy. And he was the this is fine dog for a few minutes, a few seconds there, because his car was completely on fire, and he just wasn't getting out.

Speaker 1 He was just like, it's not ideal, he's still in this race.

Speaker 1 I like that, I like the possibility that, like, maybe I can, maybe it'll go away. Maybe if I drive fast enough, the wind will put the flames out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but any sport that has a fire in it, I'm going to be interested in looking at the picture of that fire. I found myself in a perfect spot.

Speaker 1 I feel like we've discussed this, I think, a month ago when we're like, hey, look, we're not really actually watching these races. We like drive to survive.
I just, I've found my niche.

Speaker 1 It's to watch Drives to Survive, to know enough that I can just be annoying to people who watch the sport and love it and truly care about it. Truly care about it.
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 So it's a great, that's similar to tennis, yeah. You don't have to, you don't have to actually ever put anything on the line for it.
Right.

Speaker 1 You're just like, okay, I'm just here to piss all you guys off. Right.
And everyone, whenever I have a strong opinion about F1, everyone's like, did you even watch the race? And the answer is no.

Speaker 1 Nope. I didn't.
I don't watch the race. I will tune in if there's a fire.
That's how you get me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I did watch a little of the race because the only reason I watched a little of the race today is because I was so bored by the tennis. So they were going on at the same time, so I had to flip to F1.

Speaker 1 I would really put me in a box. I would watch F1 if they were in planes.
How cool would that be? That'd be very cool. Drone racing? Be even faster, yeah.
Drone racing.

Speaker 1 And you could shoot each other down. And Tom Cruise was in it.
And Miles Teller was in his back seat. And then I would watch it.
That was awesome. Yeah.
Miles Teller had sick abs and a great mustache.

Speaker 1 That's how you get me to watch F1. I'm in for that.
I'm Kenny Waggins. All right, let's do Who's Back? And then we have Andy Staples.

Speaker 1 We're going to do Andy Staples realignment and then the Mount Rush more of college football traditions.

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Speaker 1 Okay who's back in the week Hank. I got a couple.
My first one is Waffle House Fight Videos. Yep.
There was one that came out today.

Speaker 1 If you want to find it, it's on someone blogged it on Barstool.

Speaker 1 Just, you know, it's just great to see. It's great to kind of get back into the swing of things, getting back to work, go on the internet, and it's like, what's going on? Boom.

Speaker 1 Waffle house fight video. You know,

Speaker 1 this is what I needed. The internet is back.
Yes. This is what I needed to start my week.
I saw a video, Waffle House video a couple weeks ago where it was like the

Speaker 1 chef had to go to the hospital and the waitress just let everyone who's in the waffle house just make their own waffle house. Yeah, it was awesome.
You can start cooking.

Speaker 1 Like, here's the drill and go for it. Yeah.
That's actually not a bad idea for a restaurant, like a late-night restaurant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, you can

Speaker 1 fight in there, but also like make your own food. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 Korean barbecue, but it's just a waffle griddle. There's no line.

Speaker 1 There's no line. It's just who can get.
Yeah, they just come with batter. Yeah.
No, you show up. No, but only one guy is

Speaker 1 who can get up to the front. Only one person gets to use the stove at a time.

Speaker 1 Right. But you can challenge that person by fighting them to get to the stove.
What about a bring-your-own batter restaurant? I thought you were going to say bat, like to get into fights with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, both.

Speaker 1 It's like Sluggers in Wrigleyville. It's you bring batter for your waffles and also a bat to you know hit in the cages.
Yeah, you can put whatever liquid you want on this hot metal stove.

Speaker 1 As long as you can hit 80 miles an hour. Yeah.
No people who bring that there. No.
But

Speaker 1 you said it was like, there's a what? No. I just like the idea of a king of the hill type restaurant where you have to defeat challengers to make your food.
Yes. Real primal shit.
Genius idea.

Speaker 1 All right. And then my other, my other who's back is Summer This League.
Okay. Summer League.
That was kind of the only other thing that was really going on in the sports world. But just like the

Speaker 1 things that come out of the conversations, it's like LeBron talking to Rob Palinka. And then it's just like everyone goes off on these rumors.
Woge was talking to Rich Paul.

Speaker 1 And there was just like, it's just one of those things where it's just people at Summer League. Everyone goes to Summer League.
All the players go. All the executives go.
All the coaches go.

Speaker 1 They have conversations.

Speaker 1 And then people on Twitter, like people just go crazy being like, this GM's talking to this GM. A trade's happening.
And people just go nuts over nothing.

Speaker 1 I actually do think that this year is the earliest that we've ever started to legitimately have the redrafting talk after the draft. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So like right now, all the talk is like Chet Jabari, Paolo Baiquera.

Speaker 1 I'm a big Chet Holmgren fan, by the way. He's awesome.
I like him. He's awesome.

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant should go to the Thunder. Yes.
Yeah, no, that's the one.

Speaker 1 The only two places Kevin Durant can go to restore his legacy is the Thunder or if he waits out for the Sonics and their franchise again. Yeah.
Yeah. And it would be an unbelievable story.
It would.

Speaker 1 Everyone would root for Kevin Durant if he went went to the thumbs. Yes, and they have the picks to give up.
That's the craziest part. I think

Speaker 1 they probably wear the same size shirts, too. Yeah.
It's, I mean, Chet is just a, it's so much fun watching him just be like KD? Like, how is this guy real? It's puzzling, yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's very satisfying. Yeah.
He was just blocking. He's like, his body was truly built to play basketball.
The other part about Chet,

Speaker 1 and for nothing, no, for nothing else, like, there's... We could use a few more pounds.
Well, obviously, but

Speaker 1 there's no other actual practical application. maybe apple picking maybe like old school just like see the freak at the zoo.
Yeah, yeah. No, if he was born in like 1870,

Speaker 1 there would be a guy in a top hat that would wheel him around in a cage all the time. Or he would be Rasputin.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he, but speaking of which, by the way. He was tall.
Yeah. He had a huge cock, huge, very tall.

Speaker 1 Cooper Flagg, we won the under-17 USA gold medal.

Speaker 1 Remember our guy Cooper Flag? Yeah. Maine guy.
Yeah. Guy from Maine who's going to be the number one pick.
What are you talking? about?

Speaker 1 There are two guys that

Speaker 1 Rusputen, there are two guys. Yeah, we just hopped.
We just hopped.

Speaker 1 Let's go white guys in history. I'm not ready for that.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to find out. Finally, a podcast for white guys.
There's Cooper Flag, and then there's that other guy named Dick. Yeah.
And those are the two guys.

Speaker 1 Brady Dick, sure. Cooper Flag is the number one prospect for like the 2025 class.
And he's Russian.

Speaker 1 No, he's American. The opposite.
He would be.

Speaker 1 Remember the draft night? We were talking about. Resputant? Last white American to be 1-1 was 1976.

Speaker 1 Cooper Flag. Got it.
Not that we care, but Cooper Flag won an under-17. I just got tagged a shitload in it.
Future guests of a Cooper Flag guy. Baby goat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, what were we talking about?

Speaker 1 Chet. Yeah, Chet.
Chet's sick. And you know what's crazy about Chet? He's cocky as fuck.
Like,

Speaker 1 a guy that looks like that shouldn't be cocky.

Speaker 1 He had the block,

Speaker 1 the record for a number of blocks in a summer league game, which who keeps summer league records? What the fuck? And so they asked him after, and they're like, Do you know that you had the record?

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm going to do it again tomorrow night. I love that.

Speaker 1 Let's coach it. The cockiest chat ever.
Yeah. Jesus.
He's going to get dunked on once so viciously this year.

Speaker 1 It will take 5% of the cockiness out of him. I'm just going to say that right now.
You know, someone's going to just yam on him. You got to pay your dues.
You'll probably get a nosebleed from it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be all over everything.
Okay, Irw's back.

Speaker 1 Hank, are you done? Yep. Okay.
I know you said you had a few of them, so you just said two. There might be another one.

Speaker 1 Jay, could you look up the definition of a few, please? Because I think that would qualify. I think it's three.
I think a few is three. Two is three.
Small number of. Yeah, we're

Speaker 1 a couple of.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to make sure that you had all the time you needed. A couple, too.
Couples too. Couples too, for sure.
Choose a small number. A few is a couple of.

Speaker 1 Can you read again?

Speaker 1 Small number of. Got it.
Yeah. And two is.
What are we using? Is it urban dictionary? Two is two, a big number?

Speaker 1 No, choose a couple. It's a small number.
Choose a couple,

Speaker 1 which would then classify it. If I said to you,

Speaker 1 we're bringing a few people over, would you think it was just me and PFT?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It could be.
No chance. If DK Metcalf was on the phone and he's like, hey, can you bring a few of your friends over? Yeah, no chance.
And she rolls up with two? You see ya.

Speaker 1 If someone says they're bringing a few people over, you don't think it's going to be just two people. If two people showed up, I'd be like, that's a few.
No. No, if you

Speaker 1 had you. Correct.
Yeah, it'd be three people.

Speaker 1 You're right. You now are a few.
You've created a new super group. Two to few.
Two to four. The big three is a few.
Single couple, few.

Speaker 1 Could also be two. No.
Yes. Incorrect.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, going against Webster over here. Football's back.

Speaker 1 Jake, what website was that on?

Speaker 1 Merriam-Webster. Sir calling him Webster.
Fuck down.

Speaker 1 Okay, so my who's back of the week is embracing debate

Speaker 1 and expanding on a debate that we all love to have. I think it's maybe the most popular debate of all time.
Can you dunk from the free throw line? It's nope, it's Steph.

Speaker 1 Well, excuse me, the original debate is obviously MJ versus LeBron. Yep.
Right?

Speaker 1 It got expanded last week, and then it went viral, and then all the morning shows started to debate the new evolution of the debate. So I figured we should at least touch on it.

Speaker 1 It's no longer just MJ versus LeBron. Who do you have? It's Magic and MJ versus LeBron and Steph.
Oh, who wins two-on-two. I like that.
I like it too.

Speaker 1 Magic and MJ win. I don't know because they didn't defend the perimeter back.
I feel like

Speaker 1 Steph Curry changed the game. Magic was a problem.
He was an issue. Well, no.
And MJ was him. I mean, what era of medicine are we playing in?

Speaker 1 That's a big question as well. You got a problem in him versus LeBron and Steph.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Magic could shoot. He doesn't need to shoot.
Yeah, he's big. MJ will shoot.
Great pass. LeBron could shoot?

Speaker 1 Did Henry Lockwood just say that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, better than him. I mean, it's different.

Speaker 1 Are you erasing? It's different eras. Are you okay?

Speaker 1 We can't concede. I mean, Steph is the greatest shooter of all time.
There's Steph involved. It's like Steph would carry them.
Yeah, I actually think that

Speaker 1 LeBron doesn't touch the ball. Like, look what he did to KD.

Speaker 1 And also, wait. He gave him two championships.
It matters.

Speaker 1 It matters. Are we playing by ones and twos?

Speaker 1 Because if we're playing by ones and twos, it would matter.

Speaker 1 I think Steph Curry, he doesn't let LeBron touch the ball except to rebound. And then Steph, if he hits 40% of his threes,

Speaker 1 two is 100% more than one. I think mathematically they would dominate that game.
Well, I think LeBron would also just be trying to get like Magic and MJ to like him.

Speaker 1 So that would totally neutralize him, right? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Try to get it, try to get, you know,

Speaker 1 us old heads out here. I did see a video not to just hop on the LeBron hate train, but since we're doing it

Speaker 1 on the AMP. It thumps up casually, folks.
Yeah, it's like I was on vacation. I wasn't going to bring it up, but I was consuming, you know, I was doing my thing on vacations.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I love when people generally get upset, like, they can't just go one episode without LeBron talking about LeBron. Like, yeah.
That's kind of the premise of the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, Hank, how would

Speaker 1 you say that? How would Steph outscoring LeBron in a hypothetical two-on-two game against MJ and Magic, but still winning, how would that affect LeBron's legacy question?

Speaker 1 That would be great for takes because that would happen. That would definitely be.

Speaker 1 I think it would be worse for LeBron if his team won and Steph scored all the points than if his team lost and he scored equal amounts of points to Steph. Agreed.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 And so Steph leading scorer, they win by three points, but Jordan gets the MVP. Right.
Right. It was the anniversary of the decision, and

Speaker 1 it came out like it was like the I'm taking my talents to South Beach wasn't even LeBron's quote.

Speaker 1 He watched Kobe Bryant's high school announcement to the NBA draft, and he says, I'm taking my talents to the NBA.

Speaker 1 I don't even connect that. It wasn't even an original, it wasn't even an original quote because it was like Kobe's high school.
Like it wasn't a big news conference or anything.

Speaker 1 It wasn't viral or whatever.

Speaker 1 Someone said LeBron looked it up the night before. That's hilarious.
And then went out there. But also like Kobe wasn't picking schools.
Like if he was picking schools, it'd be more controversial.

Speaker 1 He just said, I'm taking my talents to the NBA.

Speaker 1 Like he wasn't, it wasn't, uh, it wasn't like if you did that between, I guess, well, he's picking not to go to school. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I re-watched it too because it was, he had the 12-year anniversary, and it's very funny re-watching because LeBron wanted to say it right away, but he had to pretend that it was a tough decision.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, man, really tough decision. Didn't they? Like, no, it isn't.

Speaker 1 We don't tell you. I actually like, who wouldn't want to go live in Miami for a while? With all the Boys and Girls Club.

Speaker 1 We don't talk about that. They cut to like three commercial breaks before it happened.

Speaker 1 LeBron did a good thing in terms of raising money for the Boys and Girls Club in that TV show, but we don't talk about how

Speaker 1 destroying their hearts.

Speaker 1 He brought these like eight-year-olds out that thought he was God, that like looked up to him, the hometown hero, and made them sit next to him while he just fucking pile-drived their hearts over his knee.

Speaker 1 And he's like, Okay, bye, I'm going to go to Miami and drink on a beach. Yeah, enjoy winter for five years.
Yeah, see you. Have fun in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you ever make it, if you ever find your way down to South Beach, don't call me.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much what he was doing. All right, see you later, kids.

Speaker 1 All right, My Who's back. I have two, a couple.

Speaker 1 My first is Brett Favre. Brett Favre is back.
Oh, good.

Speaker 1 Because Brett Favre said in a quote, if someone offered me a job to do Monday night or Thursday night football and it was a great deal, I would consider it. Same.

Speaker 1 Great, Brett. Good job, Brett.

Speaker 1 That quote made me laugh very hard because Brett, he's putting his name in the ring. Old Brett.
He might. Listen, it would have to be a really good offer, though.
He did say that.

Speaker 1 He would consider it. He wouldn't just take it.

Speaker 1 I think Brett was way more entertaining when he was playing than when he's trying to take

Speaker 1 an objective view at things. He's just kind of boring now.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's, I just, you know, him just being like openly being like, I would consider it.

Speaker 1 I don't think that offer's coming. It would be great if like...
They got him to do college football first, though. That would be fun.
And they sent him all around the country. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, Brett Favre calling a Notre Dame game would be awesome. Would be great.
Yes, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 And then my other who's back is my age because I played whiffleball back-to-back days this weekend, and I've never been more sore in my entire life.

Speaker 1 Everything. Shoulder, back, ankles, Achilles.
It's like,

Speaker 1 you know, PFD, like you can still, you could still put it on for a weekend drinking-wise, but having to actually do like whiffleball, which should be fun, but it just, like, I can't bounce back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I played golf a little bit, and the next day I realized, like, how bad my feet hurt. Yeah.
And I didn't even walk the course. Yeah.
I rode in a cart for nine holes.

Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah, getting old, it's tough. What'd you shoot?

Speaker 1 63. Whoa.

Speaker 1 That makes Jake's little breaking 90 look like pitly white. Played

Speaker 1 every hole, too. Yeah.
Didn't skip any. What'd you shoot, Hank?

Speaker 1 Which time? I played a bunch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw you posting your best swings on Instagram saying roast my swing. And it happened to be Hank's like perfect swing.
I didn't say roast my swing. That was me.
Oh, you said roasted swing.

Speaker 1 To Max Holma. No, no, no.
But did you not post it? I posted good videos, bad videos. What did you say on the good video?

Speaker 1 Nothing. Slow-mo.
I said, this is slow-mo. This is my...

Speaker 1 No, I saw your. I posted a roast my swing.
You're going to love that. But it was, I hit the...
Well, I posted a video. I posted a video today.
It said, guess my handicap. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 On your best swings. I've ever seen you take.
No, it was a complicated. complicated dangerous question.
On my swings, and there were several bad ones. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was, I was kind of, I mean, a couple people responded. I thought it was, I was, I was, I was ready for it.
I mean, that's close to fucking a man. Yeah.
No, yeah. It is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you have a sick mind like yourself. Yeah, shut up, Hank.
Shut the fuck up. So what was your best score?

Speaker 1 47. Oh, that's pretty cool.
On nine holes. And I shot up 100.
So now to 89. Okay.

Speaker 1 I've decided

Speaker 1 that. I took my handicap from a 28 to a 24.
So. Is it buzzy that that quickly? Yeah.
I don't think we have enough rounds registered to like spread it. I think it's all over the place.

Speaker 1 You guys are registering rounds? Yeah. Really? 18 birdies.
You can follow them. No free ads.
Okay. Jake.
Never mind.

Speaker 1 Barcelona Golf Time app. Barcelona Golf Time app.
18 Birdies is fine, but

Speaker 1 Barcelona Golf Time app is better. Barcelona Golf Time app, the best.

Speaker 1 I almost had a par. That would have been so cool.
Dude, walk off. I'd walk off the course.
It was on the ninth hole, too. Yeah.
I mean, I hit my first shot.

Speaker 1 The illustrious, you know, the last hole of every course, the ninth hole. I put

Speaker 1 the iconic.

Speaker 1 Like, everyone's like, oh, yeah, the ninth hole. Because who in their fucking right mind would play 18 holes of golf? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I hit my first shot, absolutely nuked it, went into the right fairway, like the fairway next to the one I was in. Right.
And I was like, fuck that. It's the ninth hole.
I'm about done.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to drop my next shot. Where this shot would have landed if it went straight.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I was like 125 yards away, took out a nice little pitching wedge, dropped it to about, I don't know, I'd say 12 feet, and then hit my putt about four feet.

Speaker 1 So, but that was almost to par. That was almost almost so par as you can get.

Speaker 1 Not to roast Hank, because Hank is much better than me at golf.

Speaker 1 Golf every day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When I post the swings online, I'm like, roast my swing because I always had a really shitty shot.

Speaker 1 The most common response by far is swing's still better than Hank's.

Speaker 1 So I just. Well, I get swing's still better than Riggs.
So it's just a chain of golf haters out there. Yeah, and they are.
And they're all golf haters. I get, how can one man have all that power?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I used golf time to book multiple tee times.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 1 Good job. Great, great, great recovery there.

Speaker 1 I'm serious. I'm serious.
I'll show you the receipts.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 handicap system, though, obviously, it is good because someone as bad as me can play my friends that are good. And it's like you can play even matches with strokes and it stays competitive.
Right.

Speaker 1 That is nice. So it is, you gotta, you know, you gotta be honest and keep your scores, otherwise, you're sandbagging.
And you still have your youth, at least. So that's great.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Are you feeling it too?

Speaker 1 I was just, yeah, I mean, I'm old. I was driving home 29.
For some reason, 29 is different than 28. And it's like

Speaker 1 a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wouldn't even get into it. No, I'm feeling old.
No, I'm just feeling old. It's like, listen, I also think there's, we got to give ourselves a little bit of credit.

Speaker 1 Summer drinking is just a different beast because you got to deal with the sun.

Speaker 1 And in Situa, it's always like July 3rd and 4th, 5th, like big, big celebration. And I was having a great time celebrating hard.
Wait, you guys celebrate 4th of July weekend in Situate?

Speaker 1 Well, 3rd, they do the third, for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. The third is the third.
It's brazen. The third is the fourth, but then the fourth is also the fourth.
Wait, what's the fifth? Fifth is just the fourth. No, the fifth is a bonus fourth.

Speaker 1 Wait, so you have two fourths and a fifth?

Speaker 1 Well, two fourths. You get two fourths.
Anyway, whatever. I was talking to my friend on like the fifth or sixth, and I was like, man,

Speaker 1 we're not high on this episode. I was like, that was one of the craziest, like, you know, fourth weekends of the last, like, since we've been doing it for the last 10 years.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you mean 15?

Speaker 1 And I was, that, that, that hit me like a ton of bricks. Like, that's been in my head ever since.
I was like, it's like the anchorman. Like, you've been covering this.
And nowhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, more than half your life.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I should probably grow up. But Gat's right that the sun, sun kills, does add an X factor.
I, um, I had a first. I woke up on Saturday morning and my FaceTime on my phone, not my FaceTime, my Face ID

Speaker 1 didn't recognize me because I was so hungover.

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 pointing at my face, and my phone was just like, who is this? Yeah, it's not you. Clean up, go put your face in some ice water.
Yeah. And then come back and try again.
But great times. Amazing times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just 29. It's just.

Speaker 1 29, man. Yeah.
All right, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 1 Who's back? It's Matthew Delavadova.

Speaker 1 Sleep. Very restful.

Speaker 1 Jake actually does look amazing. Yeah, you always look.
You're glowing right now, Jake.

Speaker 1 You probably use

Speaker 1 good sunscreen. Yeah.
yeah yeah you put cucumbers over your eyes no i've never done it oh i got it did i study the picture of my my sunburn tan no

Speaker 1 yeah i have a farmer's tan oh i saw it it's a great uh like just

Speaker 1 super drunk slap some sunscreen on your shoulders and that's it yeah because when you go out in the sun as a man sometimes you just kind of want to let it ride and if you've been out in the sun for like four hours

Speaker 1 four hours drinking you're not going to like find a friend to put sunscreen on your back

Speaker 1 no i saw someone do it i was like give me some of that. And you can see that.
I'm also going to just say right now, I judge you if you're SPF 35 or plus.

Speaker 1 30 or below.

Speaker 1 Anyone who puts on 50, I'm just immediately like, dude, just go inside. 50 is a t-shirt.
Go inside. There's no reason to be outside.
Or convert to being a sunshine. If you really can't handle this,

Speaker 1 you're not that guy, pal. That's what I say to anyone who puts on 50.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hank, this is a very funny picture of you, especially your arm.
Like

Speaker 1 where you managed to to put the sunscreen on.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just got a little bit on that neck. All right, so Matthew Delavodova.
Yeah, he's getting a summer workout with the Sacramento Kings. Let's go, Delava.
Let's see if he can make it back.

Speaker 1 I love it. Goat.

Speaker 1 He should be back. The NBA is a better league when Matthew Delavodova's in it.
Like, hitting people in the nuts, taking charges, bleeding from like one nostril because he's playing so dang hard.

Speaker 1 Agreed. I miss that guy.
Yeah, I'm happy he's back. So he's...
Wait, what did you say? He's a summer workout with the Kings. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, he should be able to make the Kings, right? We'd hope. It's the Kings.
Their coach is Mike Brown, who he has history with. So maybe.
Yeah, so he's got that. They're bringing him in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's. You get a workout.
You know what it is?

Speaker 1 No, Deli's getting in, and he's going to change the culture. Yeah, you get your name on my take.
Exactly. Who's back? Yeah.
And then everyone's like, oh, he's back. On the second week of July.

Speaker 1 That probably is like a discussion that a marketing department would have for the Kings. It's like, how do we increase our brand awareness? Right.

Speaker 1 Let's bring Deli in so that they'll talk, they'll say the name the Kings on part of my take, and boom, next thing you know,

Speaker 1 our brand's worth like $100,000 more. Yes, yes.
I have a quick, I know I've been all over the place a little bit, but Jake,

Speaker 1 the Sunday Night Baseball, Yankees, Red Sox came on, Red Sox took a huge lead, but why was Chapman pitching in the sixth? Well, he was injured, so I would assume

Speaker 1 more.

Speaker 1 I would assume they're just trying to ease him back. Take him out back,

Speaker 1 not in high levels.

Speaker 1 I know he sucks, but why are you even like, why would you put him in the sixth inning and whose back of the week is the is yankees red socks sunday night baseball taking six hours yeah because we're in the seventh 10 12 p.m yeah three hours plus in

Speaker 1 so things just don't change yeah no he's bad oh veritec's back too yeah that was cool that was a sick video of him what is he back with he just went out and caught i think a warm-up it was like he's a coach yeah yeah Yeah, so he's in full uni, so it's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got it. But that also made me feel old as fuck because he does not, you know, he's looking old.
He's 10 years. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's eating well. Yeah.
He's a healthy guy. He's the game planning coordinator.
That's pretty sick. That sounds like an awesome job.

Speaker 1 Is that like artist? Do you work with the catcher? You're like, you're just before the game and steak after?

Speaker 1 I'm sure you just work with the catcher on.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it's weird. It's pretty cool.
It's like you hire the umpire planning. You just be like, all right, guys, like, yeah, what do you think?

Speaker 1 What do you guys want to drink after the game? I think it's also making sure there's enough gum and sunflower seeds. Yeah.
And you got the right flavor. Make sure no one puts on SBF 50.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't want that that's basically

Speaker 1 the culture yeah that's like that's like an offensive lineman wearing sleeves in the winter fact can't do it yeah we're tougher than the sun yeah the fucking sun all right let's do uh Andy Staples, and then we have our Mount Rushmore with Andy Staples.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Andy Staples from The Athletic.
You can listen to him on his podcast. Great podcast, The Andy Staples Show.

Speaker 1 He is here to talk a little college football, and we're going to do a Mount Rushmore, Mount Rushmore of college football traditions.

Speaker 1 So let's start with the chaos that has gone down the last week and a half. It feels like the dust has settled.

Speaker 1 Tell me if I'm right. Let's start here.
It feels like we're now at a point where half of the Pac-12 is begging the Big Ten to get in.

Speaker 1 Half of the Pac-12 is going to form like a pseudo-alliance with the Big 12. The ACC is

Speaker 1 very nervous, but they have a TV contract that's binding them all together. And the SEC and Big Ten are just sitting back being like, we kind of run this shit now.

Speaker 4 You've forgotten Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Notre Dame. Notre Dame.
Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 Notre Dame has a standing invitation to do whatever whatever the hell Notre Dame wants. Everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So you got that. Yes, that's exactly what's going on right now.

Speaker 4 I don't know how much the dust has settled.

Speaker 4 I was talking to somebody the other day who typically knows things, and they pointed out, you don't know how many important people are on vacation right now. Like, that's true.

Speaker 4 Do you understand how many of these people are in Europe right now? I'm like, oh, so what you're telling me is

Speaker 4 this calming is not that everything's just actually calming down. It's they haven't flown home yet.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
So once they get home, we might have another flurry of chess pieces being moved across the board and geography not mattering anymore to college football. No.

Speaker 4 No, the big, the Big 12, that's the one I keep watching because something has to happen with the Pac-12 and the Big 12.

Speaker 4 One way or the other, somebody's got to raid somebody, I would think, unless the Pac-12 can just figure out a way to stay with the 10 they've got.

Speaker 4 But I can't imagine, like if you're Oregon or Washington, why you would do anything that would cause you to make a long-term agreement with anybody. Right.

Speaker 4 And so like the Big 12, let's say the Big 12 try, because what I think the Big 12 should do is go to Oregon, Washington and be like, listen, I know you guys want to be in the Pac-10.

Speaker 1 We get it.

Speaker 4 So here's what we're going to do. You're going to come with us and we're going to put a clause in your deal that just says, you want out?

Speaker 4 Fine.

Speaker 1 You're out.

Speaker 4 If the Big 10, you know, the coaches have those contracts where if they're alma mater calls, they can get out without paying a buyout.

Speaker 1 The lane piffin, yeah, his dream job.

Speaker 4 Yeah, same thing, dream job buyout or dream job clause. So do that, and you get them, and then you'll get Utah and Colorado, and you'll get whoever else you want from that league.

Speaker 4 And you, I mean, that league would really stretch. I mean, it would go from West Virginia down to Orlando, over to Oregon, down to Arizona.
I mean, it would be crazy.

Speaker 4 So geography means absolutely zero right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So what do you think is the next shooter drop? If you were to place a bet, what school do you think is going to announce a shift in conference? Who's going to be the next one up?

Speaker 4 It's either somebody going to the Big 12 from the Pac-12 or somebody going to the Pac-12 from the Big 12.

Speaker 4 And I just, I keep coming back to the Big 12. presidents, athletic directors, all those people.
They have been through every possible scenario in realignment. Like they have been about to implode.

Speaker 4 The Big 12 has been clinically dead at a couple of different points along the way. And then they've had their schools stolen and then they've added schools.

Speaker 1 So like they've been through everything.

Speaker 4 The Pac-12 people up until about a week and a half ago were like, well, this will never happen to us. So I got to trust the people with some reps to get some stuff done.

Speaker 4 Like the, so Big 12 has their media days this week. Like they have a new commissioner named Brett Yormark, who was at Rock Nation, Jay-Z's company.
He was the CEO of the Brooklyn Nets for a while.

Speaker 1 Like he hasn't done anything public yet i can imagine during his big speech at big 12 media days they just start playing some music and and kyle whittingham runs in and like we got utah yeah i i love it too because the big 12 has like you said has been dead at some points but now they are i think they're firmly in number three most stable spot because it's a bunch of schools that have basically been called dead that have been told that they're not wanted by anyone else and that has bound them all together where they're like, you know, we have the loyalty of being the team that the schools that everyone's like, nah, we don't want you in the SEC.

Speaker 1 We don't want you in the Big Ten. We don't want you like here, there, or otherwhere.
They, they basically are, are as unified as they could be outside of obviously the Big Ten and SEC.

Speaker 4 And with the exception of Kansas and football, they're all pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like even the ones they're adding, UCF, Houston, Cincinnati, BYU, like they're pretty good at football. So you can imagine them saying, look, hey, we're pretty strong through the middle here.

Speaker 4 You're not going to lose any of us and we're not going to bail on you. So, I mean, that's my pitch if I'm talking to Utah and to Colorado and Oregon and Washington, because

Speaker 4 I do think those schools in the Pac-12, like if you're, if you're Utah, you're going to be side-eyeing Oregon the entire time from now until something happens with the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 And I don't know what happens with the Big Ten until Notre Dame makes a decision. Right.
It feels like

Speaker 4 that's what the next shoe to drop with them would be is they want to see if Notre Dame wants to join.

Speaker 4 Notre Dame wants to see, hey, are we going to be denied access to the postseason, which if I'm the SEC and the Big Ten, both of which would take Notre Dame, I think the Big Ten would get them.

Speaker 4 But there's no reason to give any special carve-out to Notre Dame now.

Speaker 4 So if Notre Dame loses, you know, has their vote diluted for the playoff. They're going to join a conference.

Speaker 4 Like, and I've been the, I've been the one saying all along, they don't need to join a conference at all.

Speaker 4 The second this happened the other day with the Big Ten adding USC and UCLA, I was like, okay, now this is it. This is when Notre Dame has to join a conference.

Speaker 1 Well, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 Like if they, if it becomes a factor in the college football playoff, that's what's going to push them over the edge because they're not going to sit and just, you know, and throw away their chances at meaningful postseason games.

Speaker 1 That will force them to like pick a side in this. But I feel like Notre Dame, there's no like clock ticking on Notre Dame, right?

Speaker 1 Like at any point, they could just decide, okay, yeah, we'll join the Big Ten. And the Big Ten would open, you know, open their arms and be like, yes, please, thank you, Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's kind of like, I think it was David Lee Roth once said, like, Sami Hagar throws a party. I am the party.

Speaker 4 Notre Dame can just go do what it wants because they're going to bring a huge audience. I did a TV ratings story the other day.
And like.

Speaker 4 67 of 68 rated games got over a million viewers. They had 15 games that had over 5 million viewers in a six-year period.

Speaker 4 Like they can write their ticket anywhere because nobody brings an audience like them because people who love them watch them, people who hate them watch them.

Speaker 4 Like anytime I mention Notre Dame on Twitter or in a story, I get somebody going, who cares? Well, you do, because when I mention NC State, you don't say anything to me.

Speaker 1 Right, right. And I, so my, I've always thought, obviously, Notre Dame can do whatever they want.

Speaker 1 This shift, not only because of the playoff, which is an interesting dynamic too, because the ACC kind of screwed over Notre Dame when they didn't want to expand the playoff.

Speaker 1 Remember when Notre Dame was like, we'll, we'll happily give up a buy, any chance of a buy as long as we have this path. The big thing for Notre Dame has always been they want to play everywhere.

Speaker 1 They want to play across America because that's where they can't recruit in, like, they can't beat Notre Dame by recruiting just in their backyard. So the UCLA USC thing, now you can play.

Speaker 1 Maryland, you know, New Jersey, all the way out in California. It opens it up a little bit where it's not just if you join the Big Ten, you're only playing in your backyard.

Speaker 1 That's why it like kind of shifts the dynamic where they could still add, you know, a game in Texas. They could play Navy down in Texas.
They could do everything.

Speaker 4 Or go play CCU or somebody like that. Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 They love, they, they want to play everywhere because they have to recruit from everywhere. And now they can play in LA being in the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 Right. And I mean, they were playing in LA every other year anyway.
Right. They can play in L.A.
every year now.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 That, that could be a con, you know, they probably aren't going to be, it's interesting because as powerful as they are,

Speaker 4 They can't go into either the Big Ten or the SEC and dictate terms like that.

Speaker 4 But I do think if the the Big Ten wanted to lure them, I think they'd probably say, well, you know, in even years, you can play USC on the road. And on odd years, you can play UCLA on the road.

Speaker 4 And that would satisfy them. Like, that's why they're playing Stanford every year now.
It's not because they have this storied rivalry with Stanford, though it has become a good rivalry.

Speaker 4 They would be getting some rivalries back if they joined the Big Ten, Michigan State, Michigan, Purdue, teams that they've played a ton of times over the years.

Speaker 4 So it's, it makes a little too much sense. And so I just, you know, at this point, I'm assuming it's going to happen.
I just have no clue when.

Speaker 1 So what's the implication going to be for like the second-tier conferences out there? Are they going to start gobbling? Like, is Kansas going to stick around in the Big 12 for football forever?

Speaker 1 Or is that something where like a second tier conference could be like, okay, we're going to take your dog shit teams that you don't really want anyways?

Speaker 1 Or what's going to happen, you know, like with those other conferences that aren't part of the realignment discussion?

Speaker 4 Well, I think Kansas hangs as long as they can in the Big 12. The Big 12 could be, like Big Chat said, the Big 12 could be the number three conference.

Speaker 4 The ACC is kind of sitting in there right now because they've got Clemson and because they've got some good brands in Florida State and Miami and North Carolina and Virginia Tech, Virginia.

Speaker 4 But we don't know what's going to happen with the ACC because they are locked in to a bad TV deal for the next 14 years. And they have what's called a grant of rights.

Speaker 4 And what that is, is they've the schools have agreed to give their media rights to the conference.

Speaker 4 So any game emanating from their campus, the rights to to televise that game belong to the conference until 2036.

Speaker 4 And so these schools have lawyers, you know, Clemson,

Speaker 4 Miami, Florida State, North Carolina. There are people looking into how do we break this thing?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 And so far, nobody knows how.

Speaker 4 But the longer this goes and the more desperate they get, because right now they are staring down the barrel at 14 years of schools in the SEC and the Big Ten making at least double what they make and maybe more, because they're going to get more bites at the apple they're going to have new new new tv deals before this other thing ends so if you're clemson you are freaking out right now so you got that that issue at play you've got the big 12 and the pac-12 and if you're the pac-12 what you're trying to do is just keep everybody together and maybe you try to add a couple schools i would if i'm then i would try to take something from the big 12.

Speaker 4 And if I were those big 12 schools, I would try to resist and then try to get my league to take something from them.

Speaker 4 So it's, it's a real, real, you know, it's kind of like in the movies when everybody's got a gun pointed at each other.

Speaker 1 Can they trade schools? Is that something that, like, the Pac-12 and the Big 12? Awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Listen, we feel like we feel like Kansas is more of a Pac-12 school. So we're sliding them over and we'll take Utah.
How's that sound?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Arizona schools work in the Big 12. So I did a bad job of starting this whole thing, and you brought up the TV rights.
That's really what this is all about, right?

Speaker 1 Like this is all started, and the shake-up is because

Speaker 1 live sports are the last thing that

Speaker 1 TV networks can hang their hat on and say, this is ours, and there's nothing like it.

Speaker 1 You could have a million shows, but live sports, especially football, will always be king. And the Pac-12 did a terrible job.
Larry Scott, we've talked about on the show, completely screwed them over.

Speaker 1 The ACC is stuck in a terrible situation with their programming. SEC is jump into ESPN, and

Speaker 1 the Big Ten making this move is essentially just tearing down the Pac-12 and saying we're going to own the entire Saturday on Fox. And so,

Speaker 1 is it simplistic to say this is all driven by just TV and it's TV execs basically saying, like, we want to pay this amount of money.

Speaker 1 And if you add these schools or these schools, Texas and Oklahoma or USC and UCLA, it goes from 500 million to a billion or whatever.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what it is. So the Big Ten is negotiating a new TV deal right now that starts next July.
And we'll see what they end up doing. But Fox is going to get the biggest chunk of it.

Speaker 4 Fox is also their partner in the Big Ten network. Fox is advising them on where to sell the other packages.

Speaker 4 So what they're going to sell to ESPN or if they're going to sell something to CBS or NBC or Apple, we don't know yet. But we know it gets a lot more valuable with these other entities.

Speaker 4 Now, my guess is they keep negotiating. They would probably like to have that next lineup set

Speaker 4 before they agree on this thing, but I don't think they have to. You can just go into negotiations and say, well, here's what we have now.
Let's figure out a number for that.

Speaker 4 And let's say later we add Notre Dame and another school.

Speaker 4 What number is that?

Speaker 4 And you can have a contingency plan for if you do that. And so

Speaker 4 I think they don't have to have their membership completely set before they agree on this deal, which should be probably the next couple months. But it is all TV.
This all started.

Speaker 4 The wheels on this started in 1984 when the Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA couldn't control football TV anymore. And the conferences all started selling it on their own.
So that's what it is.

Speaker 4 And like the Big Ten and the SEC have sucked up so much oxygen. It is that they have their own gravity right now.
And that's it.

Speaker 4 When the SEC took Texas and Oklahoma last year, I started calling it the power two instead of the power five. And that's that's really what it's going to be.
They're going to be the ones that matter.

Speaker 4 You can have a playoff with just their schools. Yeah.
And the rest of the public doesn't really care. Like,

Speaker 4 people would, I would want Clemson to have access to the playoff in Oklahoma State and West Virginia and Oregon and Washington, but most of the viewing public doesn't care.

Speaker 1 It's funny that you put it that way with the Supreme Court. It's like the domino meme where it's like Supreme Court decision 1984, and then the last one is Arch Manning's playing in Austin.

Speaker 1 In the SEC. Yeah, in the SEC.
Yeah. Which is probably a big reason why he decided to go to Texas.
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
And it all sucks. I've said it.
It sucks. I wish that it stayed more regional.

Speaker 1 I think that the rivalries, the geography, the differences in each league was always what made college football great. But I've also taken a perspective of it felt inevitable.

Speaker 1 And it felt like as soon as Texas and Oklahoma did that, you knew the Big Ten was going to counter.

Speaker 1 And I also know I'm speaking from a spot of some privilege in that Wisconsin's safe in the Big Ten because I've had people be like, what if you were a fan of a Pittsburgh or, you know, an Oklahoma State?

Speaker 1 I always throw out Oklahoma State. I don't know why.
I'd be mad.

Speaker 4 Because they're really good and they're getting

Speaker 1 screwed, right? I'd be mad. I'd be freaking out.
I'd be pissed off. So I acknowledge that part.
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 This is what I've been thinking about. So we talked about Kansas.

Speaker 1 What are the chances like a Kansas, a Duke, maybe even Stanford at some point in the next decade are like, it's just, it doesn't make sense for us to play football.

Speaker 4 It's going to be interesting to see that because I don't think they're losing money on football right now, right?

Speaker 1 But if they get kicked out of leagues, yeah, if they get kicked out of leagues, like if they now ACC breaks up and Duke is just sitting there, like, if North Carolina goes to the Big Ten and Duke's sitting there, like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 Or if everyone in the Pac-12 blows up and Stanford's sitting there and like, we could play, you know, Gonzaga and West Coast Conference, like, or like Kansas being like, all right, what if we just joined the Big Ten for basketball and said we're not going to have a football?

Speaker 1 Like, could you see that happening? Where a couple of these programs that have

Speaker 1 good athletic departments being like football, as much as we want to play it, it just doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

Speaker 4 If it stops making them money, and here's the thing: it's still making a lot of these schools money, even though you might think it's not. Like, Kansas football brings in more than Kansas basketball.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 1 Because you're going to see

Speaker 4 the T1, what the Big 12's contract is worth, and what percentage of that is basketball, and what percentage of that is football. So, yeah, if they were kicked out of leagues, yes.

Speaker 4 And here's the other thing that I think is going to happen, happen, which might accelerate what you were just talking about. I think the governance is going to change.

Speaker 4 Instead of there being one organization that handles all sports, there will be an organization that handles football. Right.

Speaker 4 And the NCAA might handle all the other sports, or the NCAA might handle certain sports, and then other sports kind of have their own governance too.

Speaker 4 Because, guys, you know, like college rodeo has its own governing body. College water skiing

Speaker 1 has its own governing body. We didn't know that.
College Rodeo. I need, I found a new sport to get into.
No, we did not know.

Speaker 4 They just just put college kids out there on like giant bulls and shit oh yeah oh yeah i gotta start watching it oh there's steer wrestling and then the the water skiing is crazy so like louisiana monroe is like the alabama of water skiing that's amazing they're like they're like bringing in kids from europe to water ski so you got you got some dude from denmark flying into monroe louisiana like oh i live here now

Speaker 1 are they are they so good that they're bad for college water skiing probably like coupon women's basketball they're ruining water skiing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Gino Ariam of water skiing. I haven't really had a chance to interview him yet.

Speaker 1 But going back to what Big Cat was talking about, taking some of the other teams that get forgotten about your Vanderbilts, right?

Speaker 1 You could look at it from the perspective of because the TV contracts are so big, Vanderbilt, their football team's making money because the rest of the SEC.

Speaker 1 Couldn't the rest of the SEC be like, hey, we don't need these nerds. Why do we continue to give them...

Speaker 4 This is the most common question I get. I have never heard once anybody suggest who's actually in a decision-making position kicking anybody out of the league.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 And I think they tread carefully around that because nobody wants to think about, well, if I lose too many games or my team loses too many games, they might get tossed.

Speaker 4 By the way, the other most common question I get is, when are they going to do promotion and relegation like English soccer?

Speaker 1 Which would work. Which would be so much fun, but nobody's going to do it.

Speaker 4 Right. Because it means, here's your budget if you finish in the top 17.
Here's your budget. And if you finish in the bottom three.

Speaker 1 But they're not going to do that.

Speaker 4 The bandy thing,

Speaker 4 and you hear with some of the big 10 schools where, well,

Speaker 4 why don't they just kick them out?

Speaker 4 I don't think it's that easy to kick them out. I think you have to do something really bad to get kicked out.

Speaker 4 Now, maybe they change the rules down the road, but I think we're pretty far away from anything like that. I think there'll be more adding before there's any sort of culling.

Speaker 1 The main point of why they'll never kick anyone out, like

Speaker 1 my hypothetical was more Duke doesn't get kicked out. The ACC doesn't exist.
Like, Stanford doesn't get kicked out. Half of the Pac-12 goes to the Big Ten.
Half of the Pac-12 goes to Big 12.

Speaker 1 And they're stuck being like, well, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Maryland owes the Big Ten like millions and millions and millions of dollars. They're not getting kicked out.
Maryland and Rutgers, and you could even make the argument for like Mizzou.

Speaker 1 Like they might have been the greatest, like the luckiest schools in the world to get in when they got in.

Speaker 4 They came along at the perfect time because the reason rutgers and maryland are in the big 10 and the reason missouri's in the sec is when those leagues were expanding at that time not now at that time it was enhancing the big 10 network starting the sec network you were looking to acquire territory cable homes that you could then charge like a dollar forty a month for your conference network That's what that was.

Speaker 4 So the reason they went, the SEC went into Missouri instead of saying, you know, Florida State or Clemson come on in was they already had schools in South Carolina and Florida. Right.

Speaker 4 So they went to Missouri and you get the St. Louis market and the KC market and all of those subscribers have to pay for your network.
Ditto for Maryland, Ditto for Rutgers and the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 So, and it's also why North Carolina and Virginia are still very coveted because they would have been very coveted then too. Big Ten and SEC still making money off the cable network.

Speaker 4 So for either of those leagues, either of those schools would be very nice to add because those are the two biggest states that don't have an SEC or a Big Ten school. So there's money in that too.

Speaker 1 So how did it work with the ACC that they got locked into this contract that doesn't, you said 2036?

Speaker 4 2036. They panicked.
So they lost Maryland. Maryland was a charter member of the ACC.
They lose him to the Big Ten. At the time, they all wanted to stay together.

Speaker 4 Like they were worried about the league just getting torn apart by the Big Ten. That it was cherry pick what it wanted.

Speaker 4 Maybe the SEC would take somebody and then they'd be left with not a lot of value. So they basically said, let's all figure this out.
Let's find a way that nobody can pick us apart.

Speaker 4 And so in 2013, they signed this grant of rights. They bring in Notre Dame to do its, you know, its other sports in the ACC and then play five games a year against ACC schools.
And then

Speaker 4 They renewed it in 2016 when they extended their TV contract to create the ACC network. So that's when they renewed it for 20 years.
And at the time, it was like, hey, we signed this great deal.

Speaker 4 We're together forever. Oh, wait, we got to get the same amount of money for 20 years.
That reality set in about three years into the deal. And then they were like, oh, crap, what have we done?

Speaker 1 That just seems so excessive to me to have that long of a contract in anything in life. Yeah.
Like, besides a marriage, it doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 Maybe when you buy a house, and usually when you buy a house after like three years, you're like, wow. Refinance.
It's Bobby Benilla. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's just these, it's all just like Larry Scott ruined the Pac-12. Just like it's just

Speaker 1 big cat.

Speaker 4 Because now he didn't do the greatest job in the world. He certainly wasted the conference's money building some palatial headquarters in downtown San Francisco.
He certainly paid himself a lot.

Speaker 4 But Larry Scott never had an ability to make more people on the West Coast care about college football, which is

Speaker 4 his biggest problem.

Speaker 1 But he made it a lot harder for anyone to watch the games, which it went reverse.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. To make people care more, hard task.
To make people care less, could, he accomplished that.

Speaker 4 The Pac-12 network is very hard to find. I can't, I live in Florida.
I can't get it anywhere. Neither can I.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 And it's, it is amazing how that works. And, and so, the, yeah, the ACC,

Speaker 4 they were so scared and wanted security so badly that they were willing to sign anything at that point. And, and so that's what they want to.

Speaker 4 And so, this, this most recent deal, you know, there's, there's talk out there that the, the ACC and the Pac-12 are talking about a loose agreement. I'm using air quotes there.

Speaker 4 But it kind of sounds like they basically share the ACC network, which I'd be pissed if I were the ACC.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 if I'm the Pac-12, like,

Speaker 4 am I getting any money out of that or is the ACC going to get the money?

Speaker 1 Right. It just seems like we're definitely going towards a place where it's football completely separated.
Right.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, a certain basketball school is obviously separated too, because with the geographic issues that we have now, it makes no sense for the non-revenue sports to be lumped in this whole thing.

Speaker 1 So at some point, it's going to be like, I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a corporation that started a league like Nike, like Oregon's like, okay, we're going to do the Nike league and we're going to invite, you know, all the former Pac-12 schools that we wanted, poach some from the Big 12, and that will be the Nike conference.

Speaker 1 Like at some point, it's going to be like completely or partially separated from the actual schools themselves.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I think that's that's sort of the fear and kind of feels a little bit inevitable because some of the issues that they're having now with the name image likeness stuff and all the different lawsuits that they've been dragged into in federal court.

Speaker 4 It's gotten to the point where their easiest solution is probably make the revenue sport athletes employees and then do a collective bargaining agreement with them.

Speaker 4 That would be the, they can actually make some rules and actually enforce them if they did that.

Speaker 1 But if you do that, are they students?

Speaker 4 Do they have to be students? Does it matter? I mean, so you get into that sort of thing where it basically you could be licensing the name of the university.

Speaker 4 Now, I still think people are going to watch it. I'm with you, big cat.
I've heard you talk about this a bunch of times.

Speaker 4 And my thing to people, especially where I live in the South, what the hell else are you going to do on a Saturday? Right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch it. Like, I'm going to be mad.
Like I said, the right realignment sucks, but at the end of the day, I'm going to still watch it.

Speaker 1 And that's the same thing I feel with NIL when people are like, oh, the NIL is going to ruin college football. It's like, you're still going to watch it on Saturday.

Speaker 1 If Ohio State is playing Penn State at 8 p.m. on Saturday night, you're going to watch.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter if the starting quarterback's getting paid $10 million because he signed an esports contract like with FaZe Clan. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 It's just not like you're going to keep watching it. And

Speaker 1 it's very similar to whenever the NFL does something and people bitch and moan. It's like, guess what you're doing on Sunday?

Speaker 4 Yeah, we see the ratings. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You can say whatever you want. We know what you're doing.
Right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 yeah, with college football, as long as the guys in the jerseys that you like meet the guys in the jerseys you don't like, you're going to be happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as long as you can get drunk in a parking lot for a game on Saturday with your core, with your closest friends that you've been drinking beers with for 30 years, as long as you can still do that, then you're going to still show up.

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Speaker 1 So give us your,

Speaker 1 this is, we're not holding you to it.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 give us the like dominoes that you have heard might fall that would be like, wow, this is crazy. Because I'll throw one out there.

Speaker 1 I heard North Carolina, the Big Ten, is like, you know, could be a possibility. That one shocked me a little, but I guess it shouldn't because nothing.

Speaker 4 North Carolina would be the biggest tug of war because the Big Ten and the SEC both want them badly. Right.

Speaker 4 That's the one, like their former chancellor came out the other day and said they could have joined joined the SEC in 2010 or 2011, 12-ish when they took Texas A ⁇ M and Missouri.

Speaker 4 So, and I believe that 100%. North Carolina has long been coveted by the Big Ten and the SEC.
Virginia is another one.

Speaker 4 I always thought if the SEC were going to take a school in Virginia, it'd be Virginia Tech. They would like Virginia, but the Big Ten would also like Virginia.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
So what do you think? Like, give us the wildest one you've heard or wherever there's smoke that you see, like, hey, this wouldn't be that crazy if this happened.

Speaker 4 The wildest one I've heard, and I don't know if this is something they can pull off, but you go back in the history of realignment. So remember when the Pac-10 tried to take half the Big 12?

Speaker 4 That originated with some very loose discussions about potentially the two leagues pooling their TV rights and selling them as one. And eventually Larry Scott goes, you know what?

Speaker 4 If I just steal their best teams, we'll get an even better TV deal. Let's just do that.
And it didn't work because Texas was playing one group against the other but

Speaker 4 when i hear this acc talking to the pac-12 about this loose arrangement i'm like huh you know what the acc could do

Speaker 4 they could just steal what's left of the pack the best of what's left in the pac-12 now that makes no sense like to have a bunch of schools on the atlantic coast and oh by the way you're called the atlantic coast conference right and then you take a bunch of schools on the pacific coast but

Speaker 4 As ideas go, like taking Oregon and Washington and maybe Utah Utah and Colorado or something like that's not the worst idea.

Speaker 1 No, I like that one. It's not the Coastal Conference.
Yeah, that would be cool. And then Notre Dame would fully join the ACC.
No, they could play in every state.

Speaker 1 Because they could play in every state. The Coastal Elite.
That's true. That's what they should.
What about, here's a school.

Speaker 1 What if Syracuse, Syracuse to the Big Ten? That's another lucky one. Right now.
That would be very lucky.

Speaker 4 You know, that would, that would mean that some Big Ten presidents really believed it when they were traveling to New York and saw on the top of their cab Syracuse, New York's team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 A lot of TVs in New York. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 There are a lot of TVs in New York and very few of them turned to Syracuse.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. That's, yeah, that's like Northwestern Chicago's team.
It's like, I'm pretty sure the majority of people here are rooting for Notre Dame still. So

Speaker 1 it is what it is. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it's going to be crazy. I don't know what the next big one is going to be.
I'm hoping the Big Ten just keeps gobbling everything up.

Speaker 1 And I know that sounds terrible, but I also, I feel like we're going to eventually get to Big Ten in the SEC having 20 teams apiece. And I'd rather just get there now.

Speaker 1 And then, because that's the other thing. As soon as this is the new normal, like once we get a year or two past it, you'll forget it.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, like Nebraska joining the Big Ten was crazy for a year. And then it was like, oh, yeah, now Nebraska's in the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 Well, that's like when Texas and Oklahoma left the Big 12. They're like, they're leaving behind all that history in the Big 12.
I'm like, The Big 12 started when I was a freshman in college.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 4 It's not like it's been around forever. Right.

Speaker 1 There's a couple rivalry games that suffer. But yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 Like you start to get, you get normalized to the new thing, and then it's just, so I want to get to the end game as fast as possible and then just go from there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm with you because this is going to be painful. This one in particular.
The rest of them were bad enough.

Speaker 4 There's going to be some people really kind of left by the wayside, and it's going to suck. And

Speaker 4 I would prefer if they could just get it over with too. Don't drag this out for three, four years because it just makes it more painful.

Speaker 1 Right. And what about what about the other conferences,

Speaker 1 the Macs of the world, the Sun Belts? What happens?

Speaker 4 Well, hey, I don't know if you've been, see,

Speaker 4 this is where, you know, those of us who are really in the weeds, we've been watching this, but Big Cat, especially, I'm surprised you aren't really in on this. The Sun Belt has come up now.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's

Speaker 1 massive. Coastal.

Speaker 4 Use the domino effect of Texas and Oklahoma to go from like number 10 to number seven.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Added JMU. JMU about to go in a dominant run.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, they got to get past them raging Cajuns. They got to get past Appy State.
I would get past Marshall. Coastal.

Speaker 1 I would say that division is up there like with the ACC.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Well, Coastal Carolina, I mean,

Speaker 4 that Teal Turf, Jamie Chadwell, their coach, they are fantastic.

Speaker 4 That might be one of my favorite teams to watch in college football.

Speaker 1 No, the Fun Belt needs to play more weeknight games because they do play like Thursday night games.

Speaker 1 You'll watch, it'll be like, you know, a million mile an hour wind in Appalachian State and no one can hit any field goals. But like that's credit to credit to the Mac.

Speaker 1 I know that it's always sad and we joke about it when there's like 20 people in the stadium. But guess what? Again, you're watching it on a Tuesday night because

Speaker 4 every state that legalizes gambling increases viewership for those games.

Speaker 1 Could something like that happen where a conference like the Sunbelt could pick up some of the schools, some of the bigger schools that get left out of the realignment?

Speaker 4 It's certainly possible if they're smart, because that's kind of what they did. Conference USA used to be considered more prestigious than the Sun Belt.

Speaker 4 They just swiped a bunch of Conference USA this past year. Like that, that's, that's how they got Southern Miss and Marshall.
And like that, that's what that was. It was them saying, look,

Speaker 4 this conference is not as good anymore. Look how strong we've become in the meantime.
Come on. And that's.

Speaker 4 Kind of what the Big 12 could do to the ACC, I think, if things were to shake out that way. If that grant of rights gets broken in the ACC, all bets are off.

Speaker 4 No telling what anybody's going to be doing at that point because

Speaker 4 it would cause a massive panic at a bunch of schools and everybody just be running in every direction. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, a contract isn't really worth anything if you can't enforce it. And if there are enough powerful schools that just decide, like in unison, if you get like Clemson,

Speaker 1 UVA, Virginia Tech to all decide like at the same time, you know what? We're done with this contract. It would be tough to enforce anything on him.
Maybe that's it. Maybe that's the key.

Speaker 1 Elon Musk needs to say he's going to buy all college football and then have every Super League lose their minds and be like, no, I'm backing out.

Speaker 4 I mean, they're basically doing the Super League just in two different versions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it is.

Speaker 4 Midwestern Super League and Southern Super League.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the future. Everything will be a Super League.
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Speaker 1 All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore. So we have Mount Rushmore, a college football traditions.
I'm very interested to see where you go, Andy, here.

Speaker 1 So it's me and PFT as a team, the Hank, Bubba, Jake team, and then you. You are our guest.

Speaker 4 Jake doesn't have to leave to drop a deuce right now.

Speaker 1 No, no, he's good. His butt is great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't jinx it. Don't jinx it.
Yeah, he very much could. Listen, you never know.

Speaker 4 I'll tell you, Jake, I've never left a podcast to move my bowels. I guarantee to you, Marv Albert never left a broadcast.

Speaker 1 Won't move his.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You got to watch it.
Pre-game meals are different. Don't worry.
You shit himself off. I'm not eating Philly cheesesteaks before a broadcast.
Okay. Well, I've got to want it more than that.

Speaker 1 So we're not as important.

Speaker 1 No, that's not true. Okay.
All right. You put yourself in that pickle.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Andy, you want to start or you want to tell anyone else to start? Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 4 Here's my thing. If I start, you know who I'm going to take because

Speaker 4 I'm going to be that guy.

Speaker 1 You're going to pander. I'm going to tell you right now,

Speaker 1 you have none of our picks.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay, fine. Then I will do it.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I'll take Jump Around. Great.

Speaker 1 You don't have any of our picks. That's great.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
That's a great pick.

Speaker 1 Shout out Jump Around.

Speaker 1 I always tell this story, but you know, they tried to ban it my freshman year because they said it was like a hazard for the journalists in the press box.

Speaker 4 You can hear the bolts creaking in the press box.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How is that not one of your picks? Yeah.
And they, what? How is that not one of your picks? Because there's a lot of great traditional college football. We've got a lot of things.

Speaker 1 Because I also knew that someone else was going to take it. All right.
We'll go with our first pick.

Speaker 1 That's your college tradition. No, this is

Speaker 1 a strong college. Listen here.
Oh, all right, fine. You want, you want, you want my,

Speaker 1 all right. I'll go my favorite college tradition.
And PFT agrees with this one. We talked beforehand.
Betting the over in Bedlam, no matter what. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No matter what. No matter what.
No matter what. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State play.
It's betting the over.

Speaker 4 Put on your face. I went to the one where the year Kyler started for Oklahoma.
I thought my face was going to melt off.

Speaker 1 It's the best.

Speaker 4 Taylor Cornelius throwing. There's a wide open guy in that two-point conversion.
He just misses him.

Speaker 4 It was amazing.

Speaker 1 And the best one, I got to look up the year. Remember the year when there was...
There was a score right at the end.

Speaker 4 They crewed it to Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 There was that one. Yeah, they screwed up, like, it screwed up everything.
I think it screwed up the spread and maybe the over-under.

Speaker 1 I think it was the year that there was like no points in the first quarter, and then it just all hell broke loose.

Speaker 1 But that's why it's the best because I could just sit there and watch Bedlam and know like you're never out of it because it's going to be Bedlam. At some point, it will be Bedlam.

Speaker 1 I think both teams' defenses go into the game knowing, like, hey, we're going to fuck a lot of stuff up. Just wait.
It's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Just don't be the last team to fuck up. Exactly.
Make one stop in the fourth quarter and you can win this game. Yeah, I think it was, let's see.
I'll find it.

Speaker 1 And then the thing I always love about that game is the sky in Oklahoma, in Stillwater, especially. It's the blackest sky you'll ever see in your life.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And sometimes there's an ice storm.

Speaker 1 Yes, when it's cold and you're like, uh-oh, is this going to affect it? Nope. Points.
I'm sure some fucking nerd's going to tweet at me and be like, the over-under is like, you know,

Speaker 1 two and 10 in the last 12 years. You still got to bet it.
Don't give a fuck. Mike Gundy,

Speaker 1 his mullet is always perfectly feathered before that game. The whole thing is just the best.
The best.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You guys had that, huh? Yeah, we did. Oh, wow.
Okay. Nice.

Speaker 1 We're going to go. This might be controversial.
We're going to go with tailgating.

Speaker 1 Oh, drinking beer. Just tailgating.

Speaker 4 The general concept of tailgating.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Good pail. That's my favorite.
Yeah. Great college football tradition.
Especially in New York City where they're fans of everything. Yes.
Yeah, we have that. We have that one too later on.

Speaker 1 And then second, neck. Oh, yeah.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 Very nice.

Speaker 1 We have neck also.

Speaker 4 We have a lot of playlists now.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I think it's an easy one here. Okay, yeah.
For round two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Singing after the game in Army-Navy. Yep, I was going to say,

Speaker 1 sorry you guys aren't as patriotic as me and Big Cat are. But I mean, you see that and you cry.

Speaker 1 Winners sing last.

Speaker 1 You chose betting the first time. No, winners sing first.
I'm an idiot. Winners sing first.
Yes. That's right.
Yes. That's the best.
It is the best. Wait, what do you think? Sing second? Nothing.

Speaker 1 Is it sing second? It is sing second. It's sing second.
It's bad for our tradition here that we don't know.

Speaker 1 I think they're all winners out there, Andy, because they're fine, outstanding young men that are going to serve this country.

Speaker 4 Well, they've gotten up very early in the morning their whole freshman year. So whatever, whatever flowers we can give them, absolutely.

Speaker 1 It's winners sing second. Hank, what did you say? What was your side comment? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm done. I'm here.
I'm done. No, he just makes side comments.

Speaker 1 There's probably something anti-questioning TFT's patriotism. I know.

Speaker 1 Of course. Okay.
All right. You have two now, Andy.

Speaker 4 All right. I'm going to go with Run Ralphie.

Speaker 4 Okay. So I spoke to one of the people who came up with the idea of running Ralphie at Colorado.

Speaker 4 And it was exactly what you think would be a bunch of frat boys sitting around going, you know, that'd be cool if we ran a live buffalo on a field.

Speaker 4 And so one of the one of them had a friend who had a dad, whose dad was a

Speaker 4 bison farmer. And they didn't even, like, I asked the guy, I was like, so did you know that if he gave you a male, that the male would probably kill you? And did you ask for a female?

Speaker 4 He's like, no, we didn't know that.

Speaker 1 We didn't know that. Thank God he gave us a female.

Speaker 4 So yeah, that's why you have a live,

Speaker 4 you know, basically 1,200-pound animal that can run faster than Hussain Bolt. Yep.
Being handled by six college kids who are basically hanging on for dear life.

Speaker 1 And it's also amazing. It's a great pick, too, for our previous discussion about traditions and everything because, like, I do miss the Colorado, Nebraska game.

Speaker 1 They did play the series, I think, maybe it was two years ago, three years ago. And it was great to see those colors out there, but it also shows you

Speaker 1 what's happened to college football and the change just keeps happening.

Speaker 1 Where, like, I bet you, if you asked a kid right now in his 20s, like, you know, you know, Nebraska and Colorado had like an awesome rivalry, they'd be like, What?

Speaker 1 They haven't been in the same conference in forever.

Speaker 4 I know, and they'd have no idea. So it's sort of like when I'm going back to the Texas, Oklahoma thing, the Big 12.

Speaker 4 I remember I was arguing with somebody during some period of realignment, and they're like, They're like, well, Texas and Oklahoma, they wouldn't play each other if they weren't in the same conference.

Speaker 4 I'm like, they did it for a hundred years.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, right, right. Come on.

Speaker 4 All right. So, my next one,

Speaker 4 the boys went with the very general concept of tailgating, which is excellent, gathering with your friends and drinking.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Drinking.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go a little more specific.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 The Vol Navy at Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Because tailgating is excellent. Tailgating on a boat?

Speaker 1 Sailgating.

Speaker 1 Tailgating. Yes.
So you're saying it's just not even

Speaker 1 the same out in Washington.

Speaker 4 It's probably the same out in Washington. You're just richer.

Speaker 1 Right. But no, I'm saying like Tennessee has Washington beat easily.

Speaker 4 Because, yeah, it just means more. It means

Speaker 1 they happen to put salt on their food in Tennessee. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And in Washington, everything's like, you get, you're lucky if you get a little squeeze of lemon juice on your pregame. Maybe a little tomato for your.

Speaker 4 Now, Washington fans, let's not. Let's not completely besmirch them.

Speaker 4 Washington and Oregon fans, as Pac-12 fans go, they get after it yeah they absolutely get after it it's not like I remember the first time I went to a game at Stanford and we turn into the the the parking lots and I the first thing I see is a table with like three bottles of Chardonnay on it I was like I don't this doesn't compute right the Washington fans do get after it so I don't want to I don't want them to think that that we're not

Speaker 4 Yeah, we don't think that they can party, but they can't party like Tennessee people.

Speaker 1 I know. I know Stubbs knows this.
Yeah, I went to the Apple Cup this year, and the Apple Cup in Washington was fantastic.

Speaker 1 The best part about the tailgating was there's this giant hill that has like a couple trees on it, and that's where all the guys go to pee. So

Speaker 1 you just pee on a hill, and when it's raining outside, which it usually is because it's November in Washington,

Speaker 1 like 50% of the guys that are peeing on this hill just slip and fall down the hill into a stream of their own piss. And that is tremendous.

Speaker 4 That's like watching in the grove at Ole Miss, watching everybody in their four-inch heels trying to stand in line for the porter potty and just sink into the mud. Yes.

Speaker 1 And I should say, Washington,

Speaker 1 since we're doing Washington and we're complimenting them, the craziest TV angles ever, ever,

Speaker 1 both basketball and football.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I have a simple brain. If you have a good saying, I will always think you're like a step away from being all the way back.
And then being able to say purple rain, R-E-I-G

Speaker 1 is awesome. Like, that's just like, that's going to be sick.
And they always have like an awesome first-round draft pick, too. Right.
At Washington. Right.
Yeah. Cornerback or a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Or like Vita Vita.

Speaker 4 Former high school running back, Vita Vea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was in Knoxville in 2015. They lost a heartbreaker.
Like, I think it was overtime, double overtime, maybe to Oklahoma. Big game, night game, crazy atmosphere.
They lose in heartbreaking fashion.

Speaker 1 And we are at the bars, like on Main Street. Obviously, everyone was deflated.
But when Rocky Top comes on, everyone is depressed, but they can't not sing it.

Speaker 1 So it's like, literally, it's going to good old Rocky Top. Woo.

Speaker 1 But they're heartbroken. It was so funny.

Speaker 1 Sad shit.

Speaker 1 Sad Rocky Time. Sad Rocky Time.
Half bear. All right.
I think, PFT, we should go with when you texted me back, the second one, and then I'll do the third one. Yeah, that's good.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Go for it.

Speaker 1 The second one from my second text to you. Yes.
Texas being back. Yep.
One of the things that's happening. It's every year.
Yep. Usually like late September, Texas is back.

Speaker 1 Who just will it into existence? Seven

Speaker 1 early this year. Yeah, yeah, no, they're really back.
Yeah, they're really back.

Speaker 1 Well, they're pre-back because they're back in like two years, but they're already pending art signing a piece of paper in December. Yes, exactly.
Right.

Speaker 1 But it's just, you know, the discussion in and around Texas, are they back? They're back. And then to be like, maybe they're not back.
It's just my favorite. You know, it's just every year

Speaker 1 when the leaves turn, we do the same song and dance, and it always feels good.

Speaker 4 I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 I gave up on the whole Texas, but I got fooled a few times.

Speaker 4 Like when I went from being a beat writer who just covered one school to covering more schools and, you know, would go to Texas and you'd sit in Mac Brown's office and explain why, this is why it didn't work last year, but we've made some changes this year and it's, it's definitely going to work.

Speaker 4 I'd be like, oh, yeah. Because you're looking around that place going, how could they not be good?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 How can these people not be good? But

Speaker 4 they've fooled me enough times that I really need to see it. Like I need to see them in the playoff before I believe anything.

Speaker 1 So, at that point, that's your threshold. If they make the playoff, they're officially back.
Oh, I think.

Speaker 4 Maybe they win the Big 12 before they leave.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think at any point, if they're in the projected playoff, they're back.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No. So, if they make the playoff rankings, like in November.
Yes.

Speaker 1 My threshold is one big win in September. They're back.

Speaker 4 Well, they're playing Alabama. Oh, that's.
I don't think they're going to get that big win this time.

Speaker 1 If they lose by than 21, they might be back. That is your big win.
That might be back. If they cover? Yeah.
If they cover against Alabama. They might be back.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That might be what makes them back right there.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's your next pick? Our next pick is a team game. We know you guys only care about the betting and the players in the field.
For me and us and our team, college football traditions,

Speaker 1 it's bigger than that. So what's our next pick?

Speaker 1 We're going with the Iowa wave to the hospital. Oh, that was nine.
We had that on our list, too. That's a good pick for the kids.

Speaker 1 That's for the kids. That's what it's all about.
For us.

Speaker 1 Maybe not you guys. It is sweet.
Well, you guys are. It's very nice.
I'm a father, so is Andy. So it's always about the kids.
And then, yeah, of course. And then our last pick, memes.

Speaker 1 Did you have kids? No. So you don't care about the kids? I care.
Did you make it your Malmor Sword pick? I'm just saying. We had it on our list.
Yeah. But you chose betting first.

Speaker 1 Well, because we want the kids. We didn't want to patronize the children.
We didn't want to.

Speaker 1 I care about the kids first. No, I kind of

Speaker 1 picked them first. Yeah, you didn't.
So that's actually incorrect. You picked getting hammered.
You went to the third round. Yeah, you tailgating.

Speaker 4 So they went getting hammered.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the troops.

Speaker 4 The kids. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it's true. No, we have the troops.
Oh, you have the troops.

Speaker 1 What's your second pick?

Speaker 1 Neck. Oh, I'm going to kick.

Speaker 1 You have bestiality. You have bestiality tailgating.
Better late than never. Yeah, and then the kids.
Okay, got it. No, that's that.
No, like we actually talked about this beforehand.

Speaker 1 We felt guilty, like, using the kids as a prop to be like, okay, everybody vote for us because if you don't vote for us, you're not voting for the sick children.

Speaker 1 That's not, I just, my favorite.

Speaker 1 You don't have to be at an Iowa football game to wave to the kids. I wave to the kids.
But it is a

Speaker 1 football tradition, and it's a great one.

Speaker 1 And then our last pick, means pointing this out. It was one of the things that ended COVID.
One of the most electrifying. Suryacht?

Speaker 1 No. Enter Sandman.

Speaker 1 Enter Sandman, electric every time. There was one like early in September 2020 or 2021 or whatever.
And that was like the,

Speaker 1 they posted the video and everyone was like, this is, this is an outrage. How could you do this? Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And now it's kind of. Yeah, that was a sick moment.
Yeah. And then

Speaker 1 was that the game that North Carolina got killed? No. Yeah.
Yeah. North Carolina.
Yeah, North Carolina lost. Yeah, North Carolina lost.

Speaker 1 Okay. Our last pick is going to be responsibly, responsibly

Speaker 1 trying to make all your money back on the late Hawaii game. Responsibly.

Speaker 1 Responsibly. It's like 1135.
Yeah. And I'm listening.
My favorite is because most of the time they weren't televised, finding the radio broadcast. And Robert Kakua, rest in peace,

Speaker 1 all-time broadcaster, that was also a nice welcome where it's like, yep, one eye open. You look at the Hawaii game.
They're playing, you know, San Diego State or San Jose. There's someone.

Speaker 1 And you like look and you're like, all right, Hawaii is like, they're like four and three they're okay, but they've won all their games on the island and then trying to deduce like all right and and and you always have the June Jones you know Colt Brennan in Hawaii in your head Tommy Chang if even if you want to go all the way back you always have that in your head so you think there's gonna be a lot of points It's just the best.

Speaker 1 It's the best. There's no better way to have the I sit there with my phone in my ear laying in bed trying to stay up for the rest of the Hawaii.

Speaker 4 And you're doing it because Washington State killed you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right. Something happened in the Pac-12 that has me heartbroken.
Exactly. The Dominoes fell.

Speaker 4 So I was going to give a shout to my alma mater and go with We Are the Boys of Old Florida, where everybody sways in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 And now they play I Won't Back Down after that to honor Gainesville's own Tom Petty.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 I don't think that fits in with the theme of where everyone else is going. So I'm going to go further north.
We're going to go to Morgantown, West Virginia.

Speaker 4 Burning couches in celebration.

Speaker 4 Now, move responsibly. Make sure it's your couch.
Or, you know, like when we were in college, our couches probably came from somebody else's garbage.

Speaker 4 Like, if someone put a couch out to, to get taken away by the garbage, we would take it first. So, like, I would have no qualms about burning one of those couches to celebrate a big win.

Speaker 4 It's a lot of fun. I see nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's extremely dangerous, but it's a lot of fun. So I went to school at James Madison, which is very close to West Virginia.
A lot of my friends went to West Virginia.

Speaker 1 A lot of West Virginia football fans are at JMU. That was like the team that they would follow as they're like, you know, big school.

Speaker 1 My freshman year, a house that I would go to frequently had two guys that were big West Virginia fans.

Speaker 1 They took all their couches out, burned them in the front lawn, had a giant ass bonfire of couch, right? Not that common at a school that's not West Virginia to celebrate a West Virginia win.

Speaker 1 Fire department shows up and they're like, everybody get inside. So we hide inside.
Fire department comes to the door, knocks on the door, and they're like,

Speaker 1 yeah, we need to talk to whoever the property owner here is. And they're like, those aren't our couches, sir.
And the guy from the fire department walks inside, looks around.

Speaker 1 There's no furniture in the house because it's all out on the lawn on fire. I think they got arrested for it and went to jail, but it was a great try.
It was a great attempt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they went, I don't know, somebody snuggled my weed on a couch. Yeah.
Yeah. They're like, somebody must have brought their furniture to my front yard and lit it on fire.

Speaker 1 Hope you catch the bastards.

Speaker 1 That's fucking fantastic.

Speaker 1 All right. We have honorable mentions that we want to do.

Speaker 1 I had a couple.

Speaker 1 You like this one, Andy. I had people being mad about a Big Ten West team being in the college football playoff conversation.
It seems like every year. Every time.
A lot of mad about Iowa.

Speaker 1 Whenever Wisconsin has, you know, racked up a few wins, people get very upset about that.

Speaker 1 I always enjoyed that a lot.

Speaker 1 I also had Maxion

Speaker 1 just missed the cut, but Maxion is one of my favorite. The Beth Mullens 11 a.m.
Big Ten game is also a favorite of mine. Ease your way into, you know, like whenever they now.

Speaker 4 I'm going to see you live from Champaign Live.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just something about it. It's like, you know, you go straight from the hype of game day and they're doing the, you know, everyone's going crazy and then it's just boom, click right over.

Speaker 1 And it's, you know, 8,000 people in Evanston. I just, I love it.
I love it, because I, hey, guess what? The money's still the same on that game. So

Speaker 1 I love always hearing her voice on Saturday morning. Well, dovetailing off that, just Brett Bielema in general.
Yeah. He's a great, he's an institution in his own right.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I had the Penn State White Out. I know they stink in the White Out games, but it's still fun to watch.

Speaker 1 Rolling the Oaks or Poisoning the Oaks, if you're Harvey Updike.

Speaker 4 Okay, Rolling Tomers Corner was one of my honorable mentions, but yeah.

Speaker 1 Tennessee losing a rivalry game. Yep.
That's always fun. That's a lot.
It happens all the time, like three times a year.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, I think they took all the other ones.

Speaker 1 I also had Nebraska pretending that steroids didn't exist in the 80s and 90s.

Speaker 4 But no more balloons.

Speaker 1 No more balloons. Helium shortage.
This one is, there's a couple that I had that are gone that I missed dearly.

Speaker 1 Oregon always losing to a more physical team in November.

Speaker 1 And that was last year. Yeah, but no, but like, oh, yeah, I guess it did.
Who do they, yeah, you're right. Utah.
Kick the crap out of it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Utah.

Speaker 1 Kick the crap out of them twice. Yeah, yeah.
All right, so that actually still does exist. I guess it was more when they were doing the Chip Kelly style offense and they'd score a billion points.

Speaker 4 And Stanford would beat him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then Stanford would kick the shit out of them.

Speaker 1 Also, off of that, one of my favorite college football traditions is during the Chip Kelly era when you would bet on Oregon or the over, and it would be on the bottom line, and it would be Oregon 8-0,

Speaker 1 14-15 left in the first quarter, and you'd be like, fuck yes. Like, we're off and running.
That was

Speaker 1 one of the most thrilling things you could watch. And then the last one I had that's no longer here.
Hopefully, someday we get it back. Urban Meyer losing to a far inferior

Speaker 1 opponent opponent and then citing medical issues.

Speaker 4 They had just the craziest ones.

Speaker 4 I went back and looked at that Purdue game, that Iowa game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They make no sense. Like, Ohio State doesn't lose those anymore.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They almost had one to Maryland, too.
Yeah, that was the one we came to. Urban was passing out.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was like strapped to a garner. He looked like Hugh Freeze by the end of it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Any other honorable mentions for you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got a couple. I got the Cowbells at Mississippi State.

Speaker 4 They actually spent a week at SEC Spring meetings in Destin one year debating on whether they would allow the ringing of cowbells at Mississippi State. And Davis Wade Stadium allowed to have cowbells.

Speaker 4 It's a glorious thing. One of my favorite memories.
So back in 2014, they beat Auburn. They moved to number one in the poll.
The next day, I'm flying home.

Speaker 4 I had covered the game in Sarkville, and I was flying home out of Birmingham. And there's this guy sitting at my gate in the Birmingham airport.
And I'm looking at him.

Speaker 4 He's like messing with his hand and I see he's got a giant blister between his thumb and index finger in that area and I go that's not from ringing a cowbell is it and he's like as a matter of fact it is it's my family cowbell I was like you people are amazing that's

Speaker 1 that one I love by the way the idea of with all this conference realignment like if Notre Dame went to the SEC or Stanford ended up with the SEC or something like the mix of fan bases like Mississippi State Cowbell in South Bend, Indiana, how mad Notre Dame alums would be.

Speaker 1 Like that kind of shit makes me like.

Speaker 4 They get mad and their young fans stand up to cheer.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I got Midnight Yell at Texas A ⁇ M as another honorable mention.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 4 Buckeye Stickers.

Speaker 4 Y'all probably were probably middle school when this came out. That was my freshman year of college.
There was one of those, this is Sports Center commercials.

Speaker 4 And it has, I don't know if he was the actual Ohio State equipment manager or an actor playing him, but he's explaining how you get a Buckeye sticker. He's like, make a big hit, Buckeye.

Speaker 4 Just catch a touchdown pass, Buckeye. And so

Speaker 4 I was a walk-on at the time. And like, that was the big joke in our scrub walk-on locker room.

Speaker 4 Anytime anybody did anything of significance, we just screamed, Buckeye.

Speaker 4 So that will always have a place in my heart.

Speaker 1 I like that. I always thought you could use somebody as a decoy on that and take like your shittiest player, load their helmet up with stickers, and then

Speaker 1 draw a ton of attention from the defense and then have your best player with a completely brand new fresh helmet. I was thinking about that.

Speaker 4 So I, we did a rewatch on the podcast of the 2015 Ohio State, Michigan State game. That you mentioned that, PFT, that's genius.

Speaker 4 Because, like, what if they took all the stickers off of Joey Bosa's helmet? Right.

Speaker 1 No one would know it.

Speaker 4 Would you even know it's Joey Bosa? Right. Because it's November.

Speaker 4 He has a clean helmet. It can't be Joey Bosa.
Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
Like, this guy's a scrubby. He hasn't even been in the game.
It's like the other Bosa brother that no one's talked about yet. Yeah.
Like getting his first action. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, this has been great.

Speaker 1 We'll do, you know what?

Speaker 1 We'll do the worst uniforms another time, and we'll give people, I want to make people anxious about that because there's definitely some fan bases that they just hear us saying we're going to do worst uniforms at some time.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, Mississippi State maybe,

Speaker 1 Indiana, they're all like, oh, not us.

Speaker 4 Well, I can tell you. I don't know if you're doing alternates or just the normal uniforms.
If you're doing alternates, my alma mater, the University of Florida, is probably going to win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 4 17, Texas A and L.

Speaker 1 I know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 4 They're like, they're the gators. Let's make them look like actual alligators.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. It was incredible.
They had

Speaker 1 brown. Yes.
It was crazy. It looks like you had like a ghillie suit on.
Yeah. Yeah, basically.

Speaker 4 And they lost as you would expect. Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a clear number one for me. Maybe we can save it.
Yeah, save it. Let's save it.
Let's do it right. We'll do it when you come back on before the season kicks off.
Perfect. All right.

Speaker 1 Andy, thank you. Everyone go check out Andy.
Andy Staples show. He's on the athletic.
We appreciate your time.

Speaker 1 And we're very close. I think we're under 50 days to college football.

Speaker 4 Cannot wait. I'd rather talk about games and realignment.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Let's go. All right.
Thanks, Andy.

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Speaker 1 that's the show. Let's do numbers.

Speaker 1 Ready? Is everyone ready? Yeah. Is everyone ready? I'll take a few.
I'll take a few as well. Give me 14 and 18.
Well, no, mine is. I'm just doing two.
Oh, yeah. That's a few.
Two. Okay.

Speaker 1 I was taking a few. I'm taking two different numbers.

Speaker 1 Why don't you do two numbers, Hank? Give it a try. No, give it a try.
I'm giving my number to you.

Speaker 1 Go.

Speaker 1 Two numbers. You get two numbers.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Are you just standing us off right now? What's he doing? 98.99. I was thinking that's a lot.
That's a lot. That's like a lot of.
You just doubled up my

Speaker 1 game planning. $98.99.
Okay. I don't know if that was probably...
What do you got?

Speaker 1 Six. Six.

Speaker 1 Jake? 26.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Hank's got 98 and 99.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like going to the ice cream store and someone being like, you get two cones. Yeah, you should be able to sample the numbers.

Speaker 1 39. Danny Woodhead, right? Yeah.
No, 37. Sixth time.
Wait. I think he was 39.
He's 31 for the pads. What the fuck? What is wrong with you? He was definitely 39.
Are you okay?

Speaker 1 No, I'm not okay. This is like the face out of you.

Speaker 1 Who are you? We don't recognize. Oh, my God.
He was 39.

Speaker 1 Shit. I got to take it easy.

Speaker 1 That's like the moment of concern for me. Yeah, no, that was very concerning.
I'm concerned. Like, that's like, if Mr.
Portnoy forgot all three of the words, that's what just happened in my brain.

Speaker 1 I'm officially on concerned watch. Okay.
Thank you for your concern. Sharks, along with raised skates and sawfish, don't have bones.
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