Billy Mitchell, Joey Chestnut Is The World’s Greatest Athlete, KD To The Warriors? Plus Mt Rushmore Of Arcade Games

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And Joey Chestnut is the greatest American that has ever lived. One of the greatest athletes of all time.
And I think we can confidently say that he is the greatest eater, the greatest human eater of all time, right? There's no chance that anybody's ever been better than him. It's like with Usain Bolt, you can definitively say no one's ever been a faster sprinter than Usain Bolt.
I think you can say the same thing about Joey Chestnut. No one in the history of mankind, going back thousands and thousands of years, has been able to hold a candle to what he does.
He is the greatest athlete of all time, in my opinion. I know that some people would say Secretariat, Mike Francesa.
I'm saying Joey Chestnut. And I know people would be like, well, that's not an athletic sport, eating hot dogs really fast.
Well, then go ahead. You try.
You try to do what Joey Chestnut does. No one else can do it.
He won his 15th in a row. No, what was it? 15th all time? 16th all time? 15th in 16 years, I believe.
He lost in 2015 to Matt Stone. The only reason he lost was because his fiance broke up with him a week before.
Yes, he is human. He bleeds like all of us.
A broken heart can bring down Joey Chestnut, but what he did on July 4th on one leg, which I mean, big Ben was probably watching him being like, God damn it. I should get into competitive eating and one leg and choked out a protester while eating hot dogs, while winning the championship.
I tip my cap to him. I don't think like, I honestly, this is going to sound a little bit hyperbolic.
I am lucky to be breathing the same air as Joey Chestnut. I'm lucky to be alive.
Think about how many years. Think about when you could have been born in the history of humanity.
And we were born at the same time as Joey Chestnut. We got to enjoy Joey Chestnut.
That's what he's done. And James shared the stage with him.
It's pretty incredible, like what we've been lucky enough to see in our lifetimes. I was looking up some of his other records that he has.
He's got some other records that, like, approach goat status. If you just throw out – if you got rid of – this is like when you take out, like, Barry Bond's steroid seasons and throw him out, and you look at the rest of his career, and you're like, oh, he'd still be like a top three hitter of all time.

If you throw out the hot dog eating contest,

this guy still, he ate 41 hard-boiled eggs in eight minutes.

He ate 23.

Shout out Cool Hand Luke.

Great movie. Yeah.

23 six-inch Philly cheesesteak sandwiches in 10 minutes,

390 shrimp wontons in eight minutes,

28 pounds of smoked poutine in 10 minutes if there's no there's no number two there's no number two it's joey chestnut junior soprano and then the rest yes yeah and joey chestnut by the way the one year that he loses he comes back and he wins that was the year i i was i i competed and he said the the buns were looking extra fast that day which i I was like, wow, I didn't even know that was a thing. But he's beating everyone by so much.
And he doesn't like you realize that he could eat. I can't remember what the second place person had.
What is it like 45 or something? 40 like he could eat. Yeah.
20 less hot dogs and still win every year. Yet he keeps pushing himself.
Last year, he had 76, the new record.

He keeps just like, find me a guy who will compete against himself

like Joey Chestnut does.

And again, if it wasn't for his fiancee breaking up with him,

we'd be talking about has Joey Chestnut ruined the hot dog eating competition

because he's won 16 in a row.

Is he bad for hot dogs?

Yeah.

He's the Yukon women's basketball of hot dogs. Jake knows all about eating when the buns get fast.
Am I right? Am I right, Jake? Absolutely. He's also won by an average of 18 hot dogs per contest.
So it's not even close. Stupid.
He is competing against himself. It's like when Tiger was dominating the PGA Tour.
He could just take it easy, but he demands excellence out of himself. Yes.
we're definitely not going to get a live tour for major league eating though at least not in the hot dog category never say never never say never um all right so i i just we had to lead with joey chestnut should we talk about a fake sport now the nba offseason this league oh man uh so when we last recorded we're on vacation this week when we last recorded Kevin Durant had just asked for a trade from the Nets we now are sitting here uh five days later he has not been traded from the Nets yet I actually am of the belief that the Nets should just be like fuck it you're staying on the team you signed a four-year deal like that used to mean something kind of push back player empowerment Player empowerment. Like, hey, no, you can't be traded.
We're going to keep you. But he also has demanded that he wants to play with at least two all-star players.
So he – I don't want to bring out the triple B, but he wants to play with at least two all-star players. I went through it.
There's nine teams that are off the list off of that nine teams that are

off the list from the two all-star threshold but there's a lot of teams that would be very funny if he got traded to that i'm hoping for i mean do you want to just go down like what would be the the funniest is clearly the warriors if he gets traded to the warriors like will that work we don't know but it would be fun to watch right yeah we were talking about we're talking about KD right now, right? KD to

the Warriors is actually

something that like i've if you if you're reading any of this stuff i guess the warriors had a meeting and like the players were like yeah why we'd take kevin durant on our team like give it a shot hamptons meeting again yeah that's that's the problem it's like you got a lot of all-stars on the team a lot of of ball dominant, like some great shooters. I don't know how Kevin Durant fits into that.
Can Kevin Durant check his ego enough to be successful on the Golden State Warriors? But how great would it be Kevin Durant to the Warriors, Kyrie to the Lakers, and then LeBron and Kyrie play Kevin Durant in the Warriors in the Western Conference final for like four years in a row? If it's not broke just don't fix it like let's just go back to to five years ago i what i'm rooting for um i mean first of all we should give credit to brian winhorse for calling his shot so perfectly in advance what are the utah jazz doing everybody around the league is asking what's going on in utah i was i was on the edge of my seat all morning trying to figure out what the fuck was going on in utah and when horse was right they traded away rudy gobert he saw it coming and the funny thing is like when he was giving that whole monologue he's like dripping out breadcrumbs for everybody had everyone just like waiting for him to finally make a fucking point and he just wouldn't do it he knew that he was going to be right eventually he was like i know this is ridiculous in the moment but in three hours when i'm not on tv anymore everyone's going to be standing up and applauding for me and i did i gave him i gave him a standing ovation oh yeah his flow was incredible he was had everyone just waiting like what's next what's next and it's so funny because the entire brian windhorse like monologue that got memed to to death in record time it was pretty much like 24 hours and the memes were dead. He could have just saved all that breath and just been like, Hey, just remember Danny Ainge is running the jazz now.
So he's just going to get the max amount of picks in the future. And he's just going to do this all again, which he did.
I think that, I think the wolves, like including, you know, their pick this year for Walker Kessler, I think they gave up like six or seven first-round picks. So it's essentially like the Jazz are just – and they're going to probably do the same thing with Donovan Mitchell.
And it's just going to be the Jazz in like eight to ten years are going to be a problem. I'm calling it right now.
Problem. Yeah.
The way that he strung it out though was so perfect. He built up all this fucking, and he was like, watch what's going on in Utah.
He was like the Alex Jones of the NBA. I loved it.
Yes. All right.
So KD, back to KD and his demand, which is he wants to play with two all-star players, all-star type players. Funniest places.
Warriors would be the funniest. Thunder would also be funny, but they don't meet the two all-star threshold.
i was looking it up um it would be very funny if he got traded to uh the hornets who have two all stars and gordon hayward and lamello ball it'd be very funny if he got traded to the knicks with julius randall and derrick rose two all-stars the wizards have bradley beal and porzingis that's two all-stars great team yeah no it's coming home for him. Bring it.
The Bulls have four. The Bulls have a super team.
They have four all-stars. They have Vooch, DeMar DeRozan, Zach Levine, and Andre Drummond.
That's a super team. Also, there's him going to Chicago.
The takes would be flying about Michael Jordan. It'd be great.
So good. So good.
I want one team to get all the bad vibes, guys. I want to, preferably the Lakers.
I want them to, like, go on. I want them to keep Russell.
I know it's probably not possible with a salary cap. Maybe there's some creative ways.
Maybe Les Snead can give him a talking to and be like, hey, here's how you can cheat at the salary cap. But I want, like, Kyrie.
I want Russell Westbrook on the same team. I want Chris Paul on the same.
I want, like, the biggest shit show of a franchise possible just for the takes because they would probably end up winning a ton of games because they're all super talented. But then the inevitable implosion, like get James Harden on the team too.
Get everybody there. I just want one centralized location of just nonstop drama and bullshittery.
I agree. It would be just put it all in one spot and let us just watch the shit show every single time.
Other teams you could get traded to on the two all-star threshold, the Nuggets, Jokic, and they had just signed DeAndre Jordan. So that's two all-stars.
I just want – I want one of these teams. Like the Jazz still have Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell.
The Pelicans have Zion and Ingram.ram pelicans actually would be unbelievable if they traded for cj cj's never made an all-star game so i i looked i went deep and i was looking up all the all-stars but it would be like i like i even got to the point where i was like maybe he could get traded to the pistons because the pistons just bought out kemba walker and kade cunningham will be an all-star eventually. Future all-star.

Yeah, just like imagine him getting traded to the Hornets

and the Nets being like, well, you asked for two all-stars.

So we gave you your request.

He probably meant current all-stars, right?

Yeah, I mean, of course.

He wants to win a championship.

That's why he should go back to the Warriors,

which would be the funniest thing that could happen in the NBA is Kevin Durant getting traded traded back to the warriors i don't even care if they won like three in a row but just watching him after shack did the whole like you got you can't there's bus drivers and bus passengers if he just was a bus driver in in brooklyn for a year and a half and was like actually i i kind of like just sitting like maybe second row of the bus that's way more fun it would be great if you went back to golden state that's why that i am rooting for that because i've felt like in the last couple years kd has been inching closer and closer to like he's just he confronts he views his arch nemesis now as like steven a smith that's who he's competing against every day every day he goes to work to prove that steven a. Smith is corny and doesn't know what he's talking about and is a waste of breath.
The best thing he could ever do would be to go back to Golden State, win two more championships, retire, and be like, I'm happy with what I did and how I won. And Stephen A.
Smith, I did that knowing that Stephen A. Smith was going to come to work every day where he just unloaded that little mustache on me.
and I'm fine with it. I'm secure enough in myself to go back to the Warriors and do it all again back here.
Yes, yes. And it also, the Nets, like the implosion of the Nets, I kind of, I want them to keep both these guys just because I want to see it implode again because we've already gotten to watch it happen once now, or actually twice because of theen thing but the stat that's been thrown around which is just insane to to think about is that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant played 44 regular season games together 44 they went to Brooklyn together they picked each other and they played 44 games together I've you can tell that I've got some free time vacation week.
So I went down another rabbit hole with stat muse where you can search like player, player a has played this many games as player B. I want to throw a couple out to you.
People who have played more games together than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, who again, they signed together in Brooklyn to become like a super team. And they played 44 regular season games.
I bet just off the top of my head, I bet you Shaq has played more than 44 games with probably like 300 people. There are a lot of Shaqs.
The most notable Shaq I had out there that I looked up, LeBron and Shaq played 53 games together. These are pairings of all-stars that you just don't even think about.
Steve Nash and Kobe played 53 games together. Like these are, these are pairings of, of all stars that you just don't even think about.
Steve Nash and Kobe played 48 games together. Scotty Pippen and Hakeem Olajuwon played 50 games together.
These are all more than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. Gary Payton and Kobe Bryant played 65 games together.
Here's a weird one. Tony Parker and Kemba Walker.
They played 56 games together on the Hornets remember when tony parker finished his career on the hornets hank you'll like this one john wall and paul pierce they played 71 games together oh yeah on the whiz 71 games together patrick ewing and gary payton played 76 games together on the sonics there's like so many horace grant and patrick ewing 62 games together on the Magic. There's all these weird combinations of guys who you never would think like Vince Carter and Akeem Olajuwon.
They played 47 games together on the Raptors. You'd never think that.
They played more games together than Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant who willingly chose to play together. Rasheed Wallace and Allen Iverson played 48 games together when AI went to the Pistons.
There's like, it's just, I could do this all day of random pairings of all-stars that played together that beat Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, who put together a super team, and they played 44 regular season games together. What about Karl Malone? Karl Malone and Lamar Odom.
I could search that. Carl Malone played.
So Carl Malone got, I was looking that up. I think he played like 41 games with Kobe and 40 games with Shaq.
So it was close. I was trying to only do the ones that are more.
Chris Weber and Allen Iverson played 99 games together. Mello and AI played 113 games together.

That's like three careers of Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

It's just, it's so crazy to think about when they signed there.

And I know Kevin Durant was hurt the first year,

but if you had said that when they brought that team together,

like, because that was the big second act for both of those guys

and 44 games and that's all they got.

Well, it's almost like super teams don't always work out in the nfl they never work out like with the exception i guess we're proven in the last like two years but besides that besides like the most recent two years which is completely undermining my point it usually doesn't work out that well in the nfl but in basketball it does well uh but it's but it's but it's way funnier in basketball when it doesn't work out. And it's also, it's, we're also seeing like the reverse side of these super teams where it's not only the super team, but essentially the general manager and owner, basically letting the players become the general manager and owner.
Like this is a situation where Kevin, I mean, you heard it when Kyrie Irving was like, me and Kevin are going to sit down and figure this out in the in like wait what about the gm and the owner and lebron i mean they want a title but genie bus is tweeting about how she misses kobe bryan at like one in the morning so it's like they're you know if you let if you let players just run everything it can backfire what do you think where do you think this leaves ben simmons like is he is he just going to be the guy next year well pft good point because uh what if kevin durant just gets traded back to the nets because they have three all-stars blake griffin kairi irving and ben simmons there you go so why not ben simmons definitely needs to be on the all bad vibes team but yes i i was curious like it's it kind of sucks that we're not even going to get to see one game where it's Ben Simmons, Kyrie, and KD just to see what that would have looked like. Right.
And we are going to maybe get the trade that got floated out there, Russell Westbrook, to the Nets, which I think Russell Westbrook, Jake can look it up. I think he's going to maybe go for like one of the greatest accomplishments of all time is signing a five-year max and then playing it

for a different team every single year, which would be incredible

because I think he's just like – I don't understand.

There's never been a person who's had a contract that is deemed untradeable

that gets traded more than Russell Westbrook.

I mean, he needs to play hardball.

If you're Russell Westbrook at this point, just be like, send me to Tennessee, send me to Florida, or send me to Texas so that I can play. Just give me all the money that I would be paying.
Yeah, it was in Houston. Yeah, but imagine he gets traded back to, he gets traded to the Nets for Kyrie, and then Kevin Durant's like, they don't trade Kevin Durant, and we get Russ and Kevin Durant together again? Why not? I'm rooting for chaos.
I'm rooting for the exact same thing. I'm rooting for chaos and the stupidest, dumbest things to happen because this is all of this league off seasons combined into one where it's like no big free agents are out there, but we can get some really dumb combinations of trades.
You're forgetting about the Cl though i'm gonna i'm gonna constantly remind everybody forgetting about the the clippers guess who's back that's right they're gonna be good yeah as long as kawaii plays which he might not that's what i'm saying like no kawaii's back this year maybe kawaii pg playoff p john wall championship yeah i think they still have one of one or two of the mark morris twins i feel like they always have. Y, PG, Playoff P, John Wall, Championship.

Yeah, I think they still have one or two of the Mark Morris twins.

I feel like they always have one of them, right?

They cycle them in and out.

Pat Bev is probably going to make his way back there at some point.

Dude, how about Patrick Beverly?

We defended the move of celebrating the Timberwolves like they had won the championship when they won the playing game

because we went through the Minnesota sadness, and it's really, really tragic to think of what's happened in that city. But it does make it so much funnier that Patrick Beverly is no longer on the Timberwolves after winning that play-in game.
That is very, very funny. He brought them a championship.
Like, that's a Minnesota championship. Yeah.
They should honestly, like,by give full and and complete permission to minnesota to put a banner up saying play in tournament champion yes just be the cults works for them uh what are you gonna say jake yeah so i'm looking for another person who's played five uh teams in five years but he would be that 2019 thunder 2020 rockets 21 21 Wizards, right now Lakers and next year if he goes somewhere else. He just keeps getting traded.
Everyone's like, ooh, that contract, that's terrible. And then they just trade him.
It's great. I want it to happen.
I want Kyrie to be back with LeBron and I want Kevin Durant to be back with the Warriors. It's just gonna be hilarious.
I want KD. I want KD on the thunder.
Yeah, that would be funny too. Ultimate, ultimate redemption story to see, to see LeBron going back into big brother mode on Kyrie would be a real treat for everybody.
Yeah, it would. Yeah, it would.
James Harden's on his third team in three years, obviously not the same, but yeah. So it actually, Kevin Durant, like the rumors of where he's going to go, like the Celtics and the Heat are two of the teams that could offer what potentially would be like a good enough offer for the Nets.
I'll start with you, Jake. Is he Heat culture? Yeah, like I said last week, he keeps his head down in a literal form.

But I think the tweeting is not really something Pat Riley would stand for,

but it's KD, so he'll back off.

I don't know.

Okay.

All right.

Do you think maybe Pat Riley would pull up his tweets and be like,

Kevin, before we trade for you, I just want to go through this

and just maybe can you delete some of these?

He should send his tweets to Pat Riley for approval.

I'm sure that would go over well.

No, just have Udonis Haslam hold his phone.

Yeah.

And if he's got a really good tweet to put out, be like,

Udonis, here's what I'm going to say, and then let Haslam decide.

Yes.

Yeah, I like that.

And Hank, I mean, you don't want to break up the Celtics, do you? I don't want to break up the Celtics. I do love KD, though.
He's always been one of my favorite players. It would be like they would have to make a good trade, but I could definitely talk myself into it and be happy with it.
But it's one of those things where it's just probably not necessary. We're so close with the team as is.

It is Kevin Durant.

Right, but it just depends on what you have to give up.

Right.

Do you think that the Celtics would be worse with Kevin Durant?

It depends.

You never know.

They're two games away from winning the championship. If they lost in the Eastern Conference Finals,

then technically that would mean yes, right?

But if the Celtics had Kevin Durant instead of Jalen Brown, I think they win the title. Yeah.
I don't know, Big Cat. They want Kevin Durant in the playoffs.
That's true. How quickly we forget.
That is true. I'm just going to say for the record, I'll take him on the Wizards if he wants to come home.
I'll take him on thes i'll take him on the bulls um absolutely like i said four four all-stars no big deal the andre drummond they some some like wind horse meme were the bulls signing andre drummond to further entice kevin durant just more all-stars for them that's i think that's exactly what happened. Um, okay.
Anything else in the sports world before we do hot seat cool throne it's i mean we're baseball season we're we're heavy baseball season we sure saw a triple play that was cool the white socks got triple played i think it was actually the first i think i think tim kirchen might have ejaculated because it was i think it was the first time there's been a triple play of that type that happened, which is crazy. Every day you can go to the ballpark and see something you've never seen before.
That's the beauty of baseball. O'Neal Cruz hit a home run that I think is still climbing.
I don't think it's started to reach its apex yet. I'm all in on O'Neal Cruz.
I want O'Neal Cruz to become the best player of all time and be like, yeah, remember when he was on my cool throne in 2022? And that would be it. I'll just be like, yep, that's it.
I was able to see a prospect, even though everyone knew about him. I was able to see him before everyone else because he's on the Pirates.
And he happened to play the Cubs one night. When you started talking you started talking about him i was like wait is that that guy that had that sweet ass whip motion throw across the across the infield i was like that guy's an awesome shortstop even though i'd never seen him before yeah we've got you know what we've got an eye for talent we do to see we're seam heads on this show we're basically billy bean like i saw him one game against the cubs, and I was like, this guy's a Major League Baseball player.
Yeah. There's realignment going on right now.
Oh, yeah. More realignment.
More realignment. Pac-12 looks like it's going to get halfway absorbed into the Big 12.
And they just need to do away with the numbers entirely at this point. You're not going to be the Big 12 big 12 you're not the big 10 any longer but think of something else either change your numbers to to uh mean what they say or just get rid of them all together because now it's going to be like 18 teams maybe in the big 12 and if you're going to do 18 teams you should just do 20 teams and you should divide it into conferences and then have a two round conference championship tournament.
We have a semifinal against two divisions and then a final championship game to determine the winner of that conference. Just do 20 teams.
Well, I disagree with the, I think the big 10 should keep their name forever. And I hope it gets to like 30 teams.
Cause that would be funny. And like, why would they change now? it's been 14 teams forever and they've still have been the Big Ten and now it's 16 um I do agree though like it's it feels like we're just going to end up with and I know everyone's upset and I get it because we talked about this on Thursday it sucks to lose like certain brands of football I love the different conferences and their different fields but it does feel like we're going to end up with the SEC and the Big Ten, and it's just going to be like AFC NFC.
And you play, like, if they both end up with 24 teams, then you just have divisions of six teams. You play your division every year, and then you play a different division.
And then you have a semifinal and a playoff in the Big Ten, and then you have a semifinal and a playoff in the SEC, and then those two teams play each other, and we call it the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's what's so perfect about doing, like breaking these down into having semifinals and finals.
Listen, we know that we love football. Professional football has, in my opinion, the best postseason.
I know you guys like bowl games, which I do too, but NFL postseason is amazing. Just do that format in college football everybody the whole hand wringing for the last 20 years like oh i don't know if the fans are going to want a playoff fuck you yes we do want a playoff it would be incredible there's literally no downside to having a playoff division one double a now fcs they figured it out a long time ago they're able to do a playoff it fucking kicks ass do it do it at the highest level like we're gonna love it stop stop pretending that we're not gonna like it because we will and then and then do it have the big 10 and the sec be the two mega conferences and have every other conference combined into a different league that plays for a playoff as well and then we have relegation and we're fine how electric would that be if you're like if you're an ok an Oklahoma State fan, you're like, hey, if we win this other mega conference, we're now in the SEC.

And then you kick out.

I mean, like the Vandy's of the world would just be gone forever.

They just drop and never come back.

But it would be it'd be great to watch and have like those like if you want the argument about college college football, which I always agree with is like it does feel like every game matters because one loss would kind of kick you out of the playoff. So why not have every game matter where a few losses kicks you out of the top division? You know what I've been thinking? like what if there was that relegation and to use your Oklahoma state analogy what if Oklahoma state could beat Oklahoma and force Oklahoma to be relegated while Oklahoma state got uh moved up into like the SEC how how sweet of an occasion would that be for the alumni of that school and and for the students to like to do the worst like put your your most hated rival in the most misery possible because of a football game.
Right. That's, that's what sports is about.
And they would still play big time football the next year because they'd just be being like basically a division of everyone who got left out of the ACC big 12 and PAC 12. Like those are some really good teams still.
And I don't know, I feel like it would be weird, but I think it would work and it be fun we're gonna have andy staples on on monday's show to break it all down but i i'm also thinking the big news is like i think notre dame finally after forever is gonna have to join the big 10 which i'm excited i don't think they are i don't think they are because there's gonna be a ton of money thrown at them there's gonna be so much money but notre dame absolutely loves having the power of course we're gonna play our own schedule we're gonna pick our opponents in the weeks that we want them and our brand is big enough that it's actually good that we're able to do this i don't think they need to be in a conference which it's one of those quirks about college football that like it makes no sense and it might not be the fairest way to do it but it's just kind of like college football is a sport that has largely been like this is the way that it's always been done. And that's why it is the way that it is right now.
That's kind of their explanation for everything. And they used to be able to just get away with it all the time.
But now there's just too much money and the realignment is forcing people's hands to actually have to make progressive changes. But with Notre Dame, they can just be like, no, you know what? I think I'm good.
I think this is the way we've always done so that's the way we're going to do it but if it becomes so the reason the the alternate side of it is they notre dame has always stayed out because of money and tv now the money and tv has become like the big 10 or the sec can offer more money and more tv than notre dame on their own can that's just like a fact they they are the the new TV deal that the Big Ten is going to do is going to fucking be insane. And if the Big Ten and SEC are the only two mega conferences, they then get to decide the playoff and they could just be like, you guys aren't invited.
Like Notre Dame, you're not invited because you're not in our conference. Like, you know what I mean? They have, they hold that power where I think Notre Dame will eventually have to just be be like all right and it it always has made sense for them to be in the big 10 it would be great they already have rivalries with like half of the big 10 so why not do it actually they have rivalries with all the big 10 now because usc's in it all they're like we like all we got to do is add navy to the fucking big 10 and then notre dame can't be like no we lose our rivalry games if it gets to that point where it's like you have to be in the big 10 to make the playoff then yes that that's what will make that's what i think is going to happen but they might they might do that bullshit thing that they did a couple years ago where they're like you know what we're going to consider ourselves part of the acc for a year like like that that whole thing like we're going to play an acc schedule um they could do something like that but um I I think that they have turned down more money before yeah but this is going to be this is going to be insane money and I I just think that this is like I if I had to bet right now in the next five years I think Notre Dame will be in in the Big Ten if the if the uh conferences get into some sort of a playoff format that would make it um like a necessity to be in the Big Ten, then yes, they'll do it.
Besides that, I'll take over five years. Okay.
I think they would do it even without that stipulation. I think it's just going to – it's like everything is changing so rapidly and the money is getting so ridiculous that I think it's going to end up being – they're just going to have to do it.
And it will be great. It's like such a natural fit.
a natural fit you know what I mean it's when everyone's saying like how are we going to do the USC and UCLA there's all the way on the West Coast fucking Notre Dame's in Indiana like they should be in the Big Ten it makes sense yeah how do you think Bill Walton's taking the news not well I should say has he heard the news yet I think he he's heard the news. Because he's in off-season mode, so he might not have heard the news.
He could have just not heard it. I think he definitely has, like, his wife probably has, like, Google Alerts set up for anything just related to the Pac-12.
Yeah, just like, Bill, did you hear this? And then he just needs a moment. The question is, I don't think the question is, has Bill Walton heard the news yet? The question is, has Bill Walton forgotten the news yet? Correct.
He probably has absorbed it and then released it out into the world. Well, that's good.
That's good. Yeah.
It's all one song. Okay.
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Hot seat, cool thrown, Hank.

My hot seat is Drew Lock.

Oh, yeah.

He, SportsCenter, the account tweeted a tennis clip and just said this was cold-blooded.

A Twitter account named Seahawks fan for life, Seahawks fan 2314,

just replied to it in a trolley way, said, not a sport.

And then the U.S. Open verified tennis account replied to that guy

and says, not a sport, says the person about to watch 17 games

of Drew Locke at QB, which went viral,

and then everyone was just roasting drew

lock so drew lock was just he's working out off season summer probably doing his thing and then just had to realize that he was trending on twitter and everyone was just destroying him like just just a tough tough time you never you never sometimes it's deserved but when it's undeserved like that i almost feel bad that's what happens when you come after the sport of tennis Oh, stop it, Jake.

Wow.

It is so much worse the fact that it was a tennis account yeah and did you see the the ricochet uh virality how basically the internet works if one thing of this type of joke goes viral people are like let me just make it in a different format and it's just guys keep saying they they want football to be back and this is what they're missing and it's a screen grab of the bear a bears game where like they it's like punt punt fumble interception punt and i've just ignored it but because i really like if you're going to do that do the seahawks game when jimmy clausen started and and john fox punted like 12 times in a row do that like at least be at least use the correct Bears game for something like this but I I hate those ricochet viral moments where it's like you did this tweet because the US Open went viral that's the only reason yeah there are a few a few players that you can like call your your ricochet virality off like when drew lock goes viral probably what was it what was he rapping on the sidelines i don't know he reached his peak as a quarterback young jeezy put on for my city yeah yeah when drew lock goes viral like young jeezy is probably going to be going viral shortly thereafter tua as well that's a great clip tua is always a ricochet virality moment like waiting to happen where like someone just throws something either actually to get to both ways because i saw like there was one where this this uh woman was through a bomb at a tailgate and they're like just got signed to the dolphins because to a can't throw deep or if someone like misses something it's easily they're like looks like looks like two out there Tua just gets it every day. Yeah, Tua's a big one.
Carson Wentz is unfortunately sad to say one of those guys too. He gets a lot of the ricochet shot.
Kirk Cousins also. Listen, we talk more shit about Kirk Cousins than anyone.
It's all completely deserved. But I'd say him and Derek Carr are the other ones.
Anytime somebody does something bad, they're going to go viral. And I like, do you, I imagine them like Derek Carr sees like Drew Locke going viral.
It's like, Oh fuck, I'm next. This sucks.
Like, Oh, they're going, they're going after us now. Derek Carr probably blocks him blocks Drew Locke in advance to try to prevent going viral.
Does he block you? He blocks like everybody. I don't think he blocks me, but yeah it is funny to see the the ricochet because the bears as a franchise always get the ricochet off of any of these and then it's just certain players once once the internet has some blood for like oh we can get retweets on making fun of this quarterback it just it's open season for a while also no deshaun watson news still either yeah weird something's happening there we did pay attention though yeah so right yeah follow follow the follow the leaks uh all right your cool throne hank uh my cool throne is just us society the world everything uh i don't know if you guys saw this headline but it's it's it's concerning yeah which one largest yes the world's largest particle accelerator cern cern is turning back on today at unprecedented levels many believe a portal to another dimension is going to be opened shit so we're they're they're doing it yeah like they're they're doing it looks like it's straight out of a movie it's like a big like fucking laser beam blaster into another portal this is what's exciting it's summer of 2016 hank this is what this is what stopped the world and made everything after that a simulation so this might just be the reset button we might be going back to to the summer of 2016.
This was that thing? Yeah.

Yeah.

That would be awesome.

We're running it back.

You're going to wake up tomorrow morning,

and you're going to be playing Demi with the boys.

You're going to have the Harambe shirts everywhere.

It's going to be great.

Hank's going to be living his best life.

But you're going to get demoted.

You're no longer going to be CEO.

True.

That's true, but it would probably be worth it, I think. Yeah, trade it all just go back to the life you had trade it all be back in summer 2016 trade it all for you to be the one who falls asleep on part of my day zoom calls well that's summer 2016 that was i was i was i was doing that yeah people forget uh okay i just I didn't have my camera on.
PFT, your hot seat, cool throne. Yeah, no, Hank had my hot seat, humanity.
He nailed it. I didn't think that Hank was going to be dropping CERN large particle collider references on part of my take, but this is where we are as a unit.
My cool throne is words of wisdom. I love large particle collectors.
Accelerators. Yeah, colliders.
My cool throne is words of wisdom. So I am at a beach house here in the Jersey Shore this summer.
Big Cat alluded to the big gay truck I've got parked outside, which is phenomenal. And in this house, the person that decorated this house probably had an operating budget of i'd say like two three hundred thousand to exclusively spend on like stuff that you hang on the wall from target or home goods and it's just everywhere so i wrote down some of the sayings that i've just noticed in the first like two days I've been in the house.
People disappoint. Chocolate is eternal facts.
So true. Keep calm and eat a cookie.
Also facts. I'm sensing a trend.
Yeah, no, there's a lot of stuff like that. There's, oh, you'll like this one, big cat.
A cup of coffee solves everything. here's another one absolute fact uh my brain has too many tabs open it's so true that's good that's a good yeah no these are good and then life is what you make it but then under make it it's got instructions on how to make a margarita it's so true so like there's there's.
So like there's literally too much truth in this house. It's like every wall, and I'm just scratching the surface on this, every wall has at least like three different signs hanging off it that somebody saw a target and they're like, oh, that's cute.
Oh, that's precious. And so I guess I'm just going to be the most enlightened human being after I'm done living in this house for the summer.
But I'm very excited to keep uncovering all the different sayings they have up. So I'll, I'll, I'll keep chronicling those as they, as they show themselves to me in this house.
I like it. I like it a lot.
All right. My hot seat.
So Friday, we're going to do a three hour dungeon and dragons with Tim Woods. So get ready for that.
So we're not going to have a fire fest. And this is really just something that needs to be discussed.
My hot seat is Liam, Bubba. Last night we were on the group text, yucking it up, having some fun, talking with the boys.
And Bubba then sent back four screenshots of the group text by accident.

So, yeah, I don't know what to think at this point because whenever someone accidentally sends you a screenshot of a conversation, it's like, so who were they sharing it with?

Who is this supposed to go to?

Because it clearly wasn't supposed to go to us.

And, yeah, it's bad times supposed to go to us. And yeah,

we're it's,

it's bad times for bubble right now.

He's on my hot seat.

I do have a folder of just funny texts.

So that's where I was going to,

I did delete it because I was like,

I don't want that to happen again.

So yeah.

What kind of, what kind of other fun, fun texts from the guys were in the fun text folder there's a bunch of uh there was like a lot of old videos and shit that we had and you just deleted all of them so like we can't even see them now correct because i was Because he didn't want this to happen again. Yes.
Hmm.

Hmm.

And I. correct because i was because you didn't want this to happen again yes

and i may or may not have been talking in these text messages about doing cocaine so why would why would i send that to somebody i don't i you should ask yourself that I don't know

I'm not lying but

I think this is a very relatable

thing I don't – you should ask yourself that. Okay.
I don't know. I'm not lying, but it definitely seems to be a problem.
But I think this is a very relatable thing that people have either done themselves or had it happen to them where someone accidentally sends back a screenshot of your conversation and you're just like, uh-oh, where is this supposed to go? There was a moment. It was actually probably like five minutes after he sent those back.
And Big Cat and me were both like, what? What is this? I just started to sweat thinking about being in Liam's position and imagining what he's going through. And it was like, it made me feel awkward.
I was like, I was hanging out with my friends here and I was feeling awkward for liam who's probably just staring at his phone yes hundreds of miles away trying to figure out how to get his way out of this one and we did like the mean stella's barking but we did the mean thing but it wasn't intentional it was just like that's the end of the conversation we didn't text for the rest of the night like we just stopped so it was like even worse for him because he was just sitting there like oh they they stopped texting after this so yeah because we knew the cops were on the block yeah well we had some good jokes going obviously and that's why it was getting saved to the to the pmt funny chat moments file that he's got i feel good though because like yeah big cat you were talking i was talking about not doing coke so i'm coming out smelling like roses on this one yes me too oh man um okay well it needed to be addressed i think we all agreed that it had to be said i mean yeah no i knew i would get roasted i actually i was i i must have uh forgotten how to use my phone in a – just being drunk for five days in a row.

I had a worse one doing that.

I sent a girl's Instagram story to her on accident and said,

this girl is the worst person on the planet.

Oh, no.

Oh, my God.

You need to have somebody else hold – you need to have Udonis Haslam hang on to your phone for you. Because that's a pretty bad couple days of phone management on your part.
Jesus. Also, Bubba, what you should do is you should just relabel all of our names in the group chat as other people's names in this group chat so it looks like billy sent the text about cocaine and not big and then and then you can publish it it wasn't being published but i mean i understand it's i listen i'll defend you uh in this respect that we're what we were talking about was fourth of july being on a monday fourth of july being on a Monday is like, it's, it's a gauntlet for anyone who's partying because it's basically, you have to start on Friday and you go on like when 4th of July is on a Wednesday or a Thursday and it's the start of the partying you can like, but Monday rolled around and everyone I think was like, well, we got to keep partying.
It's 4th of July, even though it's been three days. So it's definitely a tough time.
Yeah. You were like, what's the time we're recording tomorrow? And I was like, I'm so excited to not drink tomorrow.
Yeah. Well, that's the thing about three-day weekends.
I think all three-day weekends should be Friday off. It should not be tack on a Monday because people forget that when you're drinking on that Monday, like that's your Sunday.
Normal normal people don't go out and get loaded on a sunday afternoon sunday evening if they have to work all week they forced our hand into doing that this time and yeah i just can't i i personally can't get drunk anymore i just get tired after also also like beers i just want to fall asleep yeah and a psa we've said this before we're not going judge anyone who does anything, but just do make sure you get your drugs tested because it's fucked up right now. So that's just cocaine.
Cocaine is bad. So an extra PSA.
I'll say it. Not going to.
I'm not going to judge anyone for doing anything, but just do make sure you're safe, please. I will.
I'll judge you. Okay.
I will not judge you. Yeah.
I will not throw rocks from a glass house. I will just say instead, please get your powders tested.
Hank's right. If you do have some leftover that's been tested, cocaine's not good.
Give it to me. No questions asked.
Yeah. But only the tested kind.
All right. My cool throne is buying an extra bag of chips or, as as the wall street journal said pack of chips um there was a i don't know if you guys saw this wall street journal had a story and it so i'm not laughing at the fact that it inflation is crazy and people are struggling right now because obviously that's fucked up i'm laughing at the fact that it looked like an onion article from the wall street journal it was a guy sitting next to a lake kind of like sitting down sadly and it said unable or willing to stomach higher prices many americans are skipping some extra purchases or purchases and outings even the smallest luxuries and then in quotes i kind of second guess if i really need to get this extra pack of chips so um always buy the extra bag of chips it's bag not pack nice job wall street journal you're fucking narcs but uh yeah it times are tough but the extra bag of chips will never you'll never be like i shouldn't have bought this extra bag of chips there's a lot of things that you would regret buying an extra bag of chips is never one of them ever yeah just yeah there's certain things that you can eliminate from your budget and you'll be fine.
Like maybe take like one step down in terms of the type of liquor that you buy. You don't have to go top shelf, go mid shelf, or if you're mid shelf, go a little bit lower.
Just no more condoms. We're not doing condoms anymore.
That's an easy way to mark down right there. But when it comes to the chips, like the small pleasures in life, they're actually, they far out outweigh their value like how much does that extra bag of chips cost excuse me pack it's probably 199 depending on like if we're talking about big thing of Tostitos or we're talking about like a thing of Doritos like 199 to 399 something like that the amount of joy that you get out of those like two to five dollars it's it's worth hundreds it really is it's the small the small things in life are worth more than the big things sometimes yeah and you know what maybe just buy a really good chip clip because those like if you get a good chip clip you can buy all the chips because then you can keep them fresh so just do that that's the smart economic move here is don't skip the extra bag of chips just get something something that seals them and then always get the extra bag of chips.
And then you got chips for days. And let's bring back.
Or just get one bag and have it be the biggest bag. Yeah, huge bag.
Then it's technically just one bag. Mondo bag.
What if you get a giant bag and you go into the store and then you fill it up with like smaller bags of chips? But as you walk out, you're like, no, it's open. I brought this bag in with me.
Just bring back stealing in general. Siphoning gas from your neighbors.
Whoever has the nicest car on the block, go steal some of their gas out. But be careful because I don't know if I ever told this story.
The gas comes out really fast because I have siphoned gas before and I drank a lot of gas. It comes out really, really fast.
Way faster than you think. Way, way faster.
That's just a fact. If you start the suction, it's coming fast.
Bong. You're going to do that.
All right, Jake, finish this off. Hot seat, cool.
Throw him before we get to Billy Mitchell. My hot seat is Fenway Park.
So two weeks from now, we have the Captain documentary beginning, and they put a giant billboard on Fenway Park of Derek Jeter talk about irony also what was that what was that Red Sox player who said Wrigley's just stocking I can't remember because I was trying my best to just like just be offline as much as possible but there was like a Red Sox player that just bash Wrigley for no reason. What was that, Hank? Did you see that? I couldn't tell you.
No, I did not. I don't know.
He was probably talking about Bryce Harper's dog. It was one of the pitchers, and he got lit up, and he's like, yeah, it's just a regular ballpark.
It's like, okay, cool. We know you're lying, but that's okay.
I do think that it is a big time. Wrigley and Finley are in a league of their own.
Right. There's no reason to bash one of them just because you had a bad outing.
That's kind of relatable, though. Yeah.
Okay. It is disrespectful, though, that there's a giant Jeter poster on Fenway.
It's competitive. Yeah, the Jeter poster is funny because it is very, very out there.
By the way, can we just – this jeter documentary is going to be the most boring documentary of all time yeah because he's going to i'm out documentaries that are made by the the people just suck but it's propaganda like jeter's gonna king of king of kong was made by billy mitchell it would he wouldn't be the villain you know because he would make himself like look cool but when you have, you need to have a neutral third party director for these documentaries or

else they're all like the same.

And it's also Derek cheater is going to do that thing where he's like,

you guys,

I was famously private.

I never let anyone into my inner circle.

Now I'm going to,

and it's just not going to be anything because he's still going to be

private.

Like someone as private as Derek cheater doesn't all of a sudden say, let me tell you every story. It's just not going to happen.
So I'm already out. I'm out on that.
Hank, I agree with you. Young girls and stuff.
Like he's not going to talk about the good stuff. I agree with Hank a hundred percent.
When it comes to like all time, I guess athletes like let's be honest. No, when it comes to all-time great athletes in their sports, if they're doing a documentary or a series documentary about themselves and how they're going through the end of their career, transition to the next element, it is bullshit when it's made and produced by the person that it's about.
I agree with you, Hank. So have you watched Tom vs.
Time? Yeah, have. And I, it was a little bit, I don't know.
It wasn't, that's like a main reason of, of this point that I'm making. Like, I think a Tom Brady documentary that was made by someone where he didn't have as much control would probably be a little bit better.
I don't know. Yeah, I agree.
And that's like, I think there's a lot, I think a lot of, it's not just Tom versus time. There's like, I'm a, I'm a doc head myself and they're just not as good when they're made by like produced and all that stuff by the person.
Yeah. That was like, um, you know, which one did it for me is the, uh, Chris Carton one.
Remember when Chris Carton had a documentary, he's like, I want to hear all, I want to hear like the real, real stories. And it was not.
And it was just like, okay, this isn't as fun as I thought. So that's why I'm Derek Jeter.
You're out. You're fired.
Yeah. I have the quote by the way.
It was me. It was Josh Winkowski.
Who's a pitcher, a little underwhelming on Wrigley field. Fenway has a presence to it.
I really didn't get that here. To be honest, I said to my mom last night, this place is very stock standard.
Yeah, stock standard. That's what it was.
I don't know. Come on, dude.
It's a national landmark. National landmark.
I agree with Hank, though. The next day was like, hey, I was mad.
Who among us hasn't lashed out in times of passion? That was like the Phillies player a few months ago, right? It was an Alec home or someone flicked off the. Yeah.
This place or something. Yeah.
Yeah. And then he admitted it and he was like, I was mad.
I was, it was a passion moments. Like, dude, I love that.
That's exactly what it should be. Okay.
And your cool throne. My cool throne is the wild meter.
We have a few notable ones over the weekend. Oh, boy.
First off, Buddy and Jimmy Boeheim are both on the Piston Summer League roster. Why? Wild.
It continues. And then this morning, the Sharks hired.
I was just going to say, is that a favor that they're doing to Jim Boeheim? I don't know. No, it's wild, PFT.
Come on. Buddy signed a two-way.
The San Jose Sharks hired Mike Greer, whose older brother is Chris Greer. So now the Sharks and the Dolphins GMs are brothers, and they both are in the ocean.
Wild. Wild.
That's crazy. Yeah.
That's nuts. Whoa.
Yeah. The Wet Boys.
I'm trying to think of any other ocean animals that are pro sports teams. Marlins.
Marlins, their next GM, is going to be a Greer. Wow.
There we go. The Kraken.
Yeah, I was thinking of the Kraken, too. Wow.
Wild. That is wild.
Okay, thank you, Jake. lakers are made out of water yeah the whalers r.i.p killed whales that were in water yeah then they became the hurricanes which are made out of water yep that's true that's a fact um that's wild it's wild uh okay let's get to billy mitchell i this is i've never been alpha more in the in an interview than i was with billy mitchell just because his presence is incredible um but yeah i think people are gonna really like this interview and again if you haven't seen king of kong fistful quarters we're not just saying this because we personally like it i actually think that if you look at like any documentary list, it's a top 10 documentary of all time.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. We are right now in the presence of greatness.
Not only one of the greatest video game players of all time, but one of the greatest villains of all time. You got that right.
And it is Billy Mitchell. And from, you know, you might know him from King of Kong's Fistful of Quarters or his hot sauce, but he came in with a huge box and he started to open.
I said, Billy, stop. Let's do this on the podcast.
I want everyone, all the listeners and the people watching on YouTube to get the full Billy Mitchell experience because I'd imagine the full Billy Mitchell experience is unlike any other experience in the entire world fair to say I'd say that's absolute gospel okay yes all right so go ahead go proceed with the box and then we'll do Well, I'm the kind of guy, we've talked about coming here for a long time. Yeah.
I've even had people make comments on social media. Oh, you got to go on there.
I thought, why do they suggest I go on there? I guess you guys have been talking about it for a little bit. Yeah, we reviewed the documentary on the show, I think, last year.
Speaking for myself and Big Cat, I don't know about these guys, but we were introduced to you in mid-2000s around when the documentary came out. But we did a big during quarantine.
We reviewed King of Kong and introduced some of our listeners to it. And ever since then, they've been demanding Billy Mitchell on the show.
We're just fans of you and everything that comes with you. Well, with that information coming to me, I did some teasers of my own.
maybe you know or maybe you don't know that i happened to put together a bottle and i sent it to dave a barstool hot sauce and i just sent it no contact information no anything no nothing no hello no goodbye anything and then maybe a week later somebody forwards me something on one of your social medias where he opened it up and said wow that's cool and that was all now do you do that often is it like uh you know the godfather a horse head in the bed you just like whether it's an enemy or someone that you're friendly with you just send them a hot sauce bottle and nothing no return address no name nothing yeah rarely is it friendly but yes i do i like that just like buzz in their tower let them know that you're there Yeah,'re watching you have their address and then the next encounter we were supposed to do a pizza review in fort lauderdale and the day before it was to happen he had an emergency he had to run so that really did happen but the most outrageous thing was i was at a place in fort lauderdale called glitch and i was doing a perfect game and i what do you mean when you say you were doing a perfect I was playing Pac-Man I was making an attempt at doing a perfect score okay and I did achieve it and when I was done I was told that there was a guy doing a pizza review next door the buildings are attached to each other he was a he was I don't know 100 feet away or 100 yards away And so then we checked on your social media, and he did it right there while I was playing the game. He did his pizza review.
Incredible. So we came that close to Cross and Pass.
History right there in the same 100 feet of Florida strip mall. It's almost too much alpha for one strip mall.
Okay, so what do we have in the box? You just opened the box. Where shall we start? I want that.
Oh, wow. He put the belt on his shoulder.
What does it say? Well, that's when I went down to Australia for the Kong Off World Championship. 2019 Australian Kong Off Champion.
Now, there's great people there, great guys there.

And I gave him an ass whipping.

Yeah, was it even close?

Was there anyone even close?

There's great players there.

However, it goes down to a group of 16.

Just like March Madness.

The first guy I had to play was a friend, and he was a cream puff.

Yeah, come on.

The next guy I had to play was really, really good.

He actually won it last year.

His name was Andrew.

So now brace yourself here.

You're really going to think a little of me.

The next guy I had to face off against was my son.

Really?

But that's kind of cool.

Yeah, we're down to the final four, and I've got to play my son.

And I'm thinking, like, can't we change this around a little bit?

Did you wax him, though? No, so I says to him, I go, he's good. go he's good but i says to him i go hey i'll let you win you can beat these guys he goes you better not i mean my my son's a soldier so there was no i played i had a good game he didn't i won so then we went down to the final championship against a guy named shane a great guy and yes i won love it that's kind of great though that your lineage is 50 of the final four yeah yeah it's incredible that's yeah when you say soldier he's in the u.s military yes he's a he's a graduate of west point got it okay all right so because i you know it's tough when video games get involved we have a guy around here who pretends that he's a soldier because he plays call of duty yeah yeah it's kind of like when someone says, what do you do for a living? Oh, hi, Billy.
I'm a model. Where do you model? Instagram.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
There you go. Exactly.
Whoa, these are cool. All right, these are part of my take mouse pads.
Love that. Incredible.
Did you make that yourself? Do you make those yourself? Well, me and my team. Okay.
All right. Beautiful.
Just toss them around. then the other one for what we're set up here to do uh so there's 12 podcasters two teams of six and we're gonna see who does what love it who you teamed up with pft i i actually have no idea oh here it is so anyway we got a we got a whole billy a whole bunch of these.
I wasn't asked to do it. Wonderful.
Just to put the heat on you guys, I got so many, you could actually give some away to the audience. Ooh, look at this.
Yeah, for sure. That's never going to happen, but I appreciate that.
Billy, I've got kind of a wide open question here. We'll auction them off.
Yeah. Have you always been a winner at everything? Yes, I always win.
Always. Always? Like even when you were a little kid.
Do you remember the first time you won something? No. But you just remember like always.
It was always very important to you. When I say that I always win, always, always, always.
For example, I came here. Okay.
I come prepared. Whether I do a good podcast or not or not i'm gonna win because i've made the right effort i've made the right impression yeah i win um i'll go out to eat with somebody and they want to pay the bill or i want to pay the bill i already made arrangements ahead of time with the maitre d the bills already paid i always win step ahead so when was the last time you didn't win something an argument with my wife yeah i never win that's smart yeah that's humble pie though no but um when i go places there's great players uh i can't tell you how many times i've squared off against other guys that are great say a donkey kong i mean they have a good day and i have a bad day it happens um but i always walk away with the experience absolutely experience of a winner i'm always happy for the guy that won i always you know shake hands and have the right effect and things like that now on your best on your best day can anyone touch billy mitchell well overall yeah no but that's on my best day right on their best day, I'd have a tough time.
What current records do you hold? Current? Yes. That's a tough one.
Well, let's start with Pac-Man. I was the first one to do a perfect score.
Right. And what's absolutely gorgeous about that is other people can do it.
Friends can play. We can learn.
We can teach. We can have it but they're simply repeating what i already did right there's only one man on who stepped on the moon first right right so it's it's fun being neil armstrong okay what else any other ones oh that's cool that's very cool poster barstool arcade classic championship is there like one record that you have that is you know the one that you're most proud of? Oh, absolutely.
It would be the perfect Pac-Man because, again, it remains infinite. And that's the one that brought me to Japan.
That's the one that put me on stage at the Tokyo Game Show. And it was at that point I would say that I started appearing or i'd be somewhere in public six out of seven days somebody would come up and say i know you i know you yeah after the movie came out it went to seven out of seven there hasn't been a day in many many years that i walk outside somewhere or i'm in the public that people don't you're a legend right and you've got a distinct look too too.
No. So you're going double American flag there with the tie and the pocket square.
Is this like your everyday outfit that you wear around? This is the only outfit I have. I wear this to bed.
Love it. Like Inspector Gadget just going through the closet and everything's the same? Well, the truth is I have a lot of different patriotic ties you know i have um west point tie i have regular ties too i know that's like hard to believe but um i mean i go somewhere i meet people or i visit people it's difficult for me not to go and be respectful to present myself as best i can i go go to a convention.
People pay money.

They go in the convention.

They go there to say hi.

And what?

I would go there and sit around

or be lazy or not give my best performance.

I would be disappointed if I paid money for a convention

and Billy Mitchell was there

and he was wearing sweatpants.

I want the full experience.

You're giving your best.

Yeah.

Since this is part of my take, since you guys are sports guys,

who did I learn this from?

That you go somewhere, people pay money to see you,

and if they pay money to see you, you go there, you dress your best,

you present your best, you give your best foot forward,

your best attitude.

That would be our colleague, Deion Sanders. Close.
What? As a kid, I heard something like that said. You look good, you play good? From Tom Landry.
Oh, Tom Landry with the hat. And he always had the suit.
All-time football guy. Yeah, yeah.
So I learned that as a kid, and it always stuck with me. And so, believe me, contrary to popular belief, I i dress very normally at times but not when i'm trying to be in person right right so you mentioned there uh six out of seven days you get recognized and then when the documentary which if you haven't seen go watch it king of kong's fistful of quarters one of the greatest documentaries of all time that is not an exaggerationation.
That's just a fact. So you said that you got recognized seven out of seven days.
Right. Have there been any negative interactions? You are a villain, and I think you embrace that.
Do people ever come up to you like, hey, Billy, fuck you? Oh, face-to-face, I don't think I've ever had a negative encounter that's good not once uh online oh online we chat one of the one of the favorite things that i do when i go on a show like this is we play hate mail with billy mitchell let's do it so i don't have that in a box okay but but i'll actually work on that for you yeah yeah i would love to see some of the negative comments like on your Twitch stream. And what's funny is I used to, but times have changed.
I would get voicemails and I saved them. And so, yeah, I'd play them.
Sometimes at a convention it would be, you know, 21 years and older because they would play some of the voicemails that come on from people that I've never met who I don't know who simply saw what they saw on the screen and have the opinions they have. Yeah.
Now, were you surprised with your portrayal in the movie? Because when you film it, you know what you're putting out there. You know what some of the content is going to be because you were there at the time.
But then afterwards, they edit it and it comes out and it looks maybe a little bit different from how you thought you would be portrayed in the movie. Yeah, I didn't think they were going to show me to be nearly as nice as they did.
They cut out all the good stuff. But let me give you an honest answer.
And that's a tough question for me to answer honestly because I have to answer it honestly. They did have a lot of different angles that they played.
They really played a very strong angle with that nice old lady that I was friends with, that I gave theber to yeah they did they played that a lot um they played pac-man angle a lot um so yes i was surprised because we didn't even know the title but the other guy in the movie remember that other guy shh won't say his name we don't say his name around here yeah you don't want to say steve okay sw word well he was him two producers and a director they have friendships that went all the way back to childhood so oh it's my impression and i've never asked him but it's a very strong impression that he had some idea of where it was going and that's fine and um i as i look back now how could i think that i was going to be anything other than the central character they portrayed right um that's a live and learn in all fairness to him he's got blonde hair and blue eyes he cannot be a bad guy you can yeah you know i'm a bad guy you pointed me i'm the bad guy yeah you're the bad guy i'm the bad guy I've never seen a bad guy like this but um

no as i look at it i i guess i should have seen it that way and it didn't matter there were many times in filming that i was guarded on my words and obviously uh i said enough to make them happy there There were times where I said something.

I said something.

Okay, I've said it.

We've done this take eight times.

No, again, again.

The one that comes to mind is

Billy Mitchell always has a plan.

Yeah.

I mean, I have that visually in my mind so strong.

And I'm like,

why do I keep saying this over and over again?

And I guess finally I said it just right.

And that was more towards the end of the filming.

If I look back on the producer, he had terrific, I say this all the time, so if he hears this, it won't be.

He had terrific bedside manner.

He was never intrusive at all.

He would just pop in the restaurant, I mean, like without any notice, and he'd say hi, and I'd go, oh, hi. He'd say, oh, I'm, he'd say, I'm, come by to eat lunch, and I didn't know if you're busy today or what, and I'd go, how about tomorrow or tonight? And I was accommodating as best I could, but he was never pushy for a second, which obviously makes everybody comfortable.
to be honest he's still like that today he's the one guy from the film that I I still have some contact let me just say this though for the film like you just said you know you were always going to be portrayed the bad guy but from someone who's watched it a few times and talked to other people Steve Wiebe is you, you know, the film is about him, but there's only one guy you remember walking away, and it's Billy Mitchell. That's just a fact.
If I saw Steve Wiebe on the street, I wouldn't be able to recognize him. You're Billy Mitchell.
Steve told me that there's been a couple of times where he's recognized in public. Doubt it.
No, I think so. By his wife.
Yeah. And of course, when he goes to a convention, people know who he is.
Right, because he's walking around with a name card. Right.
Boy, I could have a lot of fun. Steve, I'm going easy on you.
He's at the meet me. You're getting the nice Billy Mitchell, Steve.
He's at the meet me, Steveeby booth no he's obviously um hi my name is

Steve Weeby come come say hello to me it says it right above him yeah he's uh I actually normally before COVID I would cross paths with him about once a year I'd see him at a convention or something and it was very cordial um and so when people say are you friends with him I mean we're friendly right um i don't speak to them outside of that though and but by the same token there's a tremendous amount of people that i don't speak to outside of that there's some players that i do there's some players i speak to almost daily because they're friends not because they're players yeah what about uh zach hample foul ball guy as we call him he's a friend of ours he's in in that movie as well. Are you and him close? Well, I sent him a message yesterday.
Are you still in New York? And he says, yeah, I'm on the upper side. And I told him where I was, and I told him that I'm going to go to Barcade tonight and tomorrow night, and I asked him if he could come down.
I didn't know if you guys knew him. Yes.
Yeah. Good friend of ours.
He's been on the show. Yeah.
Oh, he has. Yeah.
Yeah, he's a good dude. A bit of a rivalry against another good friend, Marlon's man, that goes way back.
It got pretty

ugly for a while. But yeah, he was

in that movie too, right? He was in King of

Kong. And the thing is...

Whoa, what was that? That's probably him answering my

text message. Wait, that's your phone? That's my phone.

You can check it if you want to see if that was Zach.

That's a hilarious ringtone.

That's your ringtone? Yeah.

That was the text message ringtone.

Now, what is that sound effect from? You don't know? I don't think you're qualified to do this interview i'm probably not i'm well definitely not donkey kong you're definitely not qualified to do this interview i took a guess is that well that was that was pac-man now that's the death of pac-man which i'm not familiar with because my guys don't die oh yeah see that's exactly why we don't know it either because we guys. I actually play Mrs.
Pac-Man because I'm an ally. But you do you.
Wait that's hilarious that you have the death of Pac-Man as your ringtone because you don't get to ever hear it in real life. Okay I want you to read this text message.
Okay. All right.
This is Zach Hample here. It would be great to see you but I'm planning to be at a Yankee stadium today and tomorrow so time is a little tight.
Hopefully you can make it happen and let me know what's up. It's also very funny.
The Yankees are more important to him than you. Well, it's very funny because that's perfectly Zach Hample right there because there's two baseball games he has to attend over the course of two days, but that's like full 12-hour commitments for him because he has to get there for batting practice.
Right, but you're not keeping your priorities straight. I had the opportunity, okay opportunity okay to go to the yankees game they're going to put me in a limo in the skybox okay cater to me and everything else and i told them no i have the opportunity to go on pardon my take and they understood you're smart so what's wrong with zach you're a smart man i think zach is just singularly focused on yeah you're bad news man yeah all right so billy what what do you say to the haters though the people that are like he cheated you got your your a couple of your scores ripped from twin galaxies no where twin galaxies which i know you hate how do you know that uh i'll read a tweet that was so funny i laughed out loud no no how do you how do you know that you know that I hate? I mean, you've said it.
Have you not? When did you hear me say it or hear me quote it? You tweeted, I'm looking for videographer, editor in Fort Lauderdale, Miami area to hire to help me produce content for YouTube. Looking for someone young and eager to travel.
No haters, losers, or Twin Galaxy community members allowed. Okay, so how did i say that i hated you i hated

them you're just not allowed you lumped them oh so now you've changed your story they're not allowed so you're lying yeah well you said that no they're not allowed well no not part of that community has to be independent right so how do you say that i hate somebody oh because you put them in the same sentence as haters and losers sounds like you're trying to wig a lot of this all right so so what what what is the status right now of the of the scores that were stripped or where where are we at are we in the court system well what i go after what i what i did um was number one is i had to gather the necessary information that i'll need um some of which is out there and it's public some of which will be a surprise. But then I also felt, although I hadn't played serious since 2010, even before that, I felt the need to have to go back and repeat this.
Two things. Number one, friends and family and my son, who said, no, you're going to do this.
And I said, I ain't going to do this. And he said, no.
He says, we're going to set up a stream and we're going to do Twitch here. And he was home for the summer because he was told to stay home because of COVID.
So he set up the Twitch and he started playing. And I mean, it's my son.
He's home. He's home from college.
And I don't know. I like spending time with him.
He's having fun. So, okay.
So I went over and I I started playing I started playing and it came back to me quickly and it was a million points a million points it was great and uh so okay so then we started playing more well so then I I matched the old scores okay and then coincidentally since you mentioned it I get another text message I don't know maybe read that one, too. Today is the anniversary of where I got a million ninety two.
So not only have I repeated the scores, but I've surpassed the scores. Not only did I redo the perfect Pac-Man score, but I've repeated it many times.
One of my friends counted the different scores that were in question. What I did was I repeated them or surpassed them like 22 times.
So the idea that I didn't get him, I couldn't get him. He must have cheated.
He's not good enough to get him. Bullshit.
Pardon my take. Yeah.
It's bullshit. So you have the truth the truth on your side yeah one of the really fun things that i did though and sincerely was when i did the perfect score is that fun spot uh fun spot was owned by bob lawton the lawton family and at the time that i did it in 1999 now it's 2019 i had always planned on going back and repeating it.
So I went to visit him a couple of months ahead of time. And I hadn't seen him in more than 10 years, 15 years.
And he welcomed me. He said, hello.
And we talked. And I said, you know, I did the perfect score here.
He said, that's the arcade that's in the movie. He said, that's my most favorite thing that has been done here.
You did it. You beat Pac-Man.
I can do his voice. You did it, and you did it here.
And I says, what do you think if I come back on the 4th of July weekend? And I did it again. And he gave me that look that the old man with the glasses where he goes, Billy, you think you can just walk in here and do a perfect score, do you? I said, yeah, who do you think you're talking to? So I went back on the 4th of July weekend and I honored him with an award for his participation contribution to the hobby.
And then yes, that weekend I did a perfect score on demand, so to speak. Wait, the award was given to him for witnessing you your greatness well no that sounds good but it was for the fact of fun spot what he's created how he's embraced the industry what was it just like gaming it was your award though that you created it was like the billy mitchell award honoring right commitment to video games well yeah it was actually from, it was presented by me,

but it was on behalf of Walter Day,

and it will eventually make its way into Guinness.

Love it. Okay, very cool.

I think.

I like the idea, though, of you just going to places

and handing out awards.

Well, again, since 2010, my favorite thing to do

is to go and present and honor and advocate for gamers, like ambassador because think about competitive gamers what they do what they create what they give to the hobby of gaming they don't get any recognition and they deserve it yeah well i mean especially it's the same argument that you know baseball players don't get what they get and the owner gets to keep it all i guess that's's not true anymore, but a long time ago that was the argument.

Yeah, I mean, back in the 80s, 90s.

Oh, yeah, see, that's exactly why we don't know it either,

because we're perfect score guys.

Yeah.

Wait, that's hilarious that you have the death of Pac-Man

as your ringtone because you don't get to ever hear it

in real life?

Outside of the insular world of the hardcore gamers, there were no gaming celebrities. Correct.
And now they're on TV. They're on ESPN, ESPN2.
How much credit do you take for the acceptance of mainstream gaming as being a sport of itself? Well, if we go back again to the 80s where i was occasionally i would go somewhere and if someone who's a hardcore gamer who has magazines they would see me and recognize me that was very rare at an event they would recognize me and other players too um but it was 1999 it was the perfect score it was the trip to japan the story that ran around the world that's what put me and classic competitive gaming and recognition on the map yeah yes i take credit for that i take credit for having that good fortune fall my way because had I done that score, remember it was me versus the Canadian,

and we were in a hustle or a hurry to do a perfect score which he did shortly afterwards if anything went wrong that weekend if a bomb went off if there was a threat or something big that story would not have run on the wire and gotten the attention it did but all of that energy focused into one time one place at just the right time for it to explode around the world I don't want to say that was luck because I like to think it was skill but yeah you make your own luck face it it was luck yeah how would you do in today's uh e-gaming like it have you thought about? If you were 20 years old right now, 20-year-old Billy Mitchell in 2022, would you be pro in a lot of these games, Call of Duty, Halo, whatever it may be? Wow. You ask a question that no one has ever asked before.
I'm not being funny. Here's the question I get.
Uh-oh. Okay.
You're about to mock me. No, mock me no i'm not it's gonna suck for me how come you don't play modern games why don't you do that i'll play in call of duty if i put 16 hours a day in like the old days um if it would be my total focus i wouldn't have a business i wouldn wife.
I wouldn't have kids. Trust me.
There's guys that kind of do that and don't have any of those. I would lose everything that I've worked so hard to build.
And so the answer is, no, I have no desire to do that for the reasons I just told you. And I have no desire to do it because I'm not going to sit there and play games that my kid can whip my ass at.
Wait, but I know you're not going to do it. No, but you asked it differently.
You said go back and you're 20 years old today. Correct.
No, I could absolutely embrace that. Again, I always had a good balance.
I worked games, but I worked career and business. So I'm just going to assume that I could do that on a modern platform no one i've been asked the question a thousand times the way i said it this is the first time i've ever been asked it the way you said it so i have to give a different answer that great question yeah i don't know why i wouldn't and i don't know why i couldn't i have a determination within me that i believe whatever I did, brace yourself.
I believe whatever I did, I would be the best at just because I obsessively want to be the best, you know, and you only have one life. I mean, I wanted to be at one point in my life thinking I wanted to be, you know, a Navy pilot.
I mean, I would have been the best because I would have been so obsessed with it. You know, I mean, I wanted to be, you know, a Navy pilot.
I mean, I would have been the best because I would have been so obsessed with it. Yeah.
You know, I mean, I wanted to be, you know, a crime fighter. I mean, I put every bad guy in jail because I'd be the best.
Yep. I just, I mean, if I was bussing tables, I'd do it better than anyone because I'd be obsessed with the idea of how do I make it better? How do I make it better? I walked on this show to do an interview.
Most guys lean back on the and answer questions no I gotta I gotta bring all this stuff I have to raise the bar usually it comes to my advantage now you're one of the most competitive guests that we've had in terms of your presence it's like you I would actually say Jerry Jerry O'Connell is also a very who the hell is Jerry O'Connell get him here yeah no he'll bring it out with you I got a question though of your desire, and I think you are very different than most people because you want to be the best, and you would be the best in everything. If we could safely clone Billy Mitchell, how many of the world's problems would be solved? Probably only one.
I wouldn't have to do it. Somebody else could.
But, no. No, but again I I have to be open to the fact that um I see things differently and what I mean is you know recently I was at a convention I thought yay I did it and then I realized oh wait I came up short damn it and so next time How do I keep that from happening or missing the mark or misunderstanding or so every time i do something i'm reflecting back as to what it is i can do different to avoid the mishap that's the way people say how did you get good at this game when you play a game and you die you, you say, oh, damn it.
I say, what happened? I go back X amount of steps right there. So it's, in some ways it's a gift.
In some ways it's a curse. Do you find that you enjoy video games because of the joy that it brings you? Or is it more simply like you like the winning aspect and you like the high score increasing.
You like comparing yourself to others others being like, look, this is what I did. This is what you did.
I'm the best at this game. Or is it like, do you still actually enjoy, you know, not to use the, you know, a term art, but, you know, the, do you enjoy the beauty of the game still? I don't know anything about the enjoyment.
It's the competitive aspect.

It's man versus machine.

I guess it is man versus man with other players,

but it's really man versus machine.

And I say that because I really enjoy and I get mesmerized

at looking and watching somebody who's really good at a game

because I can appreciate that.

I can appreciate what went into it. And that doesn't just come with gaming.
Examples I use, you know, having met Michael Jordan, having met, you know, Tony Hawk. Well, not Michael Jackson, but one of his guys, and interacting with them and understanding the steps they took, the sacrifices they made.
You could take any one of those guys and you could pick on them different oddities in their personalities. But what they did, they did better than anyone in the the world so what is it that's in them that brought them to that point and how do they apply that to the other aspects of their life that's really cool yeah so i mean many would say michael jordan is the billy mitchell of basketball when you met him did he was he aware of you? Yeah, when I was introduced to him, I was introduced to him as to who I am, and he said hello, and we talked about gaming for a short bit.
Obviously, I know about him as well as you do, which is beyond the pale. But again, I'm reflecting back on the energy that was exchanged really it was me taking energy from him and his knowledge and what put him to the point how many times other people wanted to go a b c and d and he said no i'll stay here and focus on this the sacrifices he made um the places he didn't go because he wanted to apply himself the things he could have done but he didn't he go because he wanted to apply himself um you know there are things that are lost and things that are gained um there's people who would look at him there's people who would look at um me or you or anybody and say i wouldn't do that oh it wasn't worth it oh he didn't get to do this he didn't get to do that um you never have that feeling or energy or understanding until that moment when you make the decision yeah um so i had one more question and then i we want to do a mount rushmore with you i think someone told you that correct someone told? Someone told you that we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of arcade games? Maybe.
Should be easy for you. When I go on an interview, I never say what's it about or what do you want to talk about or what can we or cannot.
People do an interview, they go, oh, I'll send you the questions ahead of time. No, you don't do that.
Let it rip. Yeah, let it rip.
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The hot sauce element of this.

I just love the fact that you are Billy Mitchell, one of the greatest video game players of all time, one of the greatest villains of all time, lover of America, alpha, tenacious, all these things.

And then also hot sauce mogul.

Can you explain that to me?

Ricky's, right? Yeah. let's go back to 1978 we weren't the first but we were almost the first one in florida who was serving wings and uh it's funny the guy who was the manager of the anchor bar in buffalo yeah he know it yeah He happened to be a bartender for my dad that had no influence whatsoever but um wings went on the menu in 1978 and we just couldn't find a sauce that we thought was good enough and in 1980 we reached out to a guy who was a president of a hot sauce company and he said i'll show you how to make a hot sauce better than any hot sauce in the world um that this is the real truth not the Billy did everything truth and uh so he did he was awesome he was a great old guy who's long gone and through him I I met and had other relationships with other people going all the way back then some that survived today speaking, speaking specifically of Johnny.
And through the years, things have been critiqued, but it was always the obsession, again, that we could make or create something better than anyone else. So sometime in the mid-'80s when I realized I couldn't just play video games forever, even though maybe I wanted to, I had to take the obsessive nature I had and I had to focus it towards something positive.
So I focused it towards something positive, which is the family business. And that's when we began playing with hot sauce.
Chicken wings were our main item. And then as it was successful, people wanted to have it or buy it or sell it in different markets and different stores and things like that.
So I had the experience of messing with the hot sauce formula, the experience of applying it like chicken wings and such, and the experience of marketing it. So when you take all of the aspects together, once again, yes, I know more about this than anyone in the world yeah can i see do i know more about making it than anybody no that would be my friend his name's john okay do i know more about wings probably not i probably know more about eating it but marketing i'm sure not but collectively i've become so obsessed that i do you You're number one.
Can I try a little of it? What are you obsessed with now? Well, I have three kids all that graduated from college. Boy, you asked this personal question.
I'm on a roll, and you've got to ask something personal like this. I'm curious.
You'll probably nail it. Because you said that you go from obsession to obsession, so there's got to there's gotta be one right now okay well i've had the good fortune uh my wife is a teacher of 32 years okay when i met her she had uh oh by the way she's from long island when i met her she had two masters okay now she has a doctorate an edd okay we raised three kids that they all went to college.
They all graduated.

My old... Okay, now she has a doctorate, an EDD.
Okay, we raised three kids. They all went to college.
They all graduated. My oldest daughter, Florida State.
My younger daughter is beginning her third year of law school, and my son is a graduate of West Point. What am I obsessed with? I've been obsessed with that for quite a while now my youngest is 23 and quite honestly i'm searching for a new obsession or to expound on some of the obsessions okay don't do sports podcasting i want i would know if i do i'd end up i'd like to say number one no plus i'd end up looking like like us yeah never mind you would dominate us i us.
I'm asking you, please step down on that. Step down before I step up.
Yeah, exactly. All right, so with the hot sauce.
Love hot sauce. Okay.
We love hot sauce. Jake loves hot sauce, too, actually.
Let me try to be honest here. Okay.
When you sit here and you say to yourself, gee, you're going to make a hot sauce better than the ones on the market. I believe you.

The one on the market, the over-dominant, over-dominant. It's not even close.
If they stopped making hot sauce, everyone else who does make hot sauce went on 24-hour production. You couldn't keep up with the production.
The over-dominant one is Frank's. Frank's Red Hot.
And this is Frank's territory here. So the idea was to take a sauce that, like Frank's, make it a little thicker, a little less salt.
It's made out of cayenne pepper. Wow.
Pardon my take. Wow.
Can we try some? Wow. And you got some for you guys, and you got some for your audience.
Man, you guys are going to be doing some mail stuff. I want you to sample it.
Pass it around. Cannonball.
But, like, what about, don't you have, like, another hot sauce in the house so you can do a side-by-side? Yeah. You got, like, the T word? Pasco? Shh.
No. Come on.
When I came on here, they said no foul language. No free hats.
Tapatio. Then, see, in some ways it was easy.
When you take the sauce cayenne, you make a different sauce. You simply substitute a pepper.
Yeah. Habanero.
Ooh. That's hot.
Oh, Billy. That's the hot stuff.
Billy. That'll put hair on your head.
That's what happened to me. Billy, I'm being honest.
This is the best hot sauce I've ever had. Man dominates everything in life.
So this one has, again, this is the one for the competition with all the podcasters and um so there's extra of these too you're a big thumbs up guy too which i love in almost every picture that i see of you there it is good to have a thing it's a powerful thumbs up too i've always wondered like what to do with my hands in a picture it's you've got your thing and it's awesome well it's kind of funny i i find myself i'm taking a personal picture at a graduation i do that i go oh jeez i don't need to do that but i was uh i was recently at a play uh a musical king of kong oh my god put on by uh oh well that's habanero so you're moving up this is great oh yeah king of kong a musical in indianapolis just come up and the guy who was playing me i had to pull him aside he's a nice guy Indianapolis. Just come up.
And the guy who was playing me, I had to pull him aside.

He's a nice guy named Luke.

And I said to the lady, Casey, I go, come here, we got to have a talk with Luke.

Because Luke's going on camera doing this.

Oh, no.

I go, come on.

It's a snap.

It's a snap.

Boom.

Yeah, you enforce it.

Yeah, and he had it there. And then I met a lady named Dolly who worked on the Donald Trump campaign.

And she says, I notice you give thumbs up like Donald Trump.

I go, no, he gives thumbs up because I do.

Yes.

But I said, when you see him, you got to talk to him because he's doing this.

No, it's up in the face here.

You think if he had a better thumbs up, he would have gotten reelected um i don't know it's uh it's fair it wouldn't hurt fair question yeah yeah it wouldn't hurt so uh i think in new york no yeah in uh texas yeah but uh i also boy it's so bad for me to say this but through my my life, it didn't matter who was president. I either forced my way or I didn't.
Yeah. Yeah.
You control your own destiny. Yeah.
That's alpha mentality. Who's right or wrong? I don't know.
Maybe it's all wrong. Yeah.
Maybe it's all right. Maybe you're the only right one out there.
All right. So, no, the only left one out there.
So we're going to have the contest. And so one of these six teams is going to win.
Yeah. Is it going to be yours? I was not asked to be in the contest.
So you didn't even make the qualifications. Yeah, it was very mean.
I don't know what happened. I'm teamed up with Billy.
Another Billy. I don't know how that happened.
So probably not. My guess is that he's probably too hungover to win anything.
Let's assume you win or whoever does win. Just like baseball has their trading cards, so does football.
Probably baseball is the most popular one. Well, now video games have their trading cards.
Incredible. And so, as a matter of fact.

Oh, that's Walter on the cover.

I have some.

Oh, yeah.

He's kind of recognizable.

He is.

I love how the referees wear referee jerseys in gaming.

It's a nice touch.

But what they did was there's many thousands of cards out now

for anybody who has participated or had any impact

or made their mark in the arcade gaming world.

Again, game producers, developers, players, event holders,

people who do first.

As far as a company like this doing an event like this,

it's the first I know of.

So whoever wins will be back in a month or two or three or whenever you say fit and we'll present them with their own trading card oh wow and their own training card you know will be in there it'll it'll eventually be like one of these here wow that's awesome so one of you guys is going to go on the map. Yeah.

And one of you guys definitely is not

because you're not even in the competition. I was

not asked. I don't know where the exclusion

happened. It definitely happened at some

point. It went by qualifications.
Yeah.

I have no idea. So there's 12

of them and then there's

everyone else. I'll get to the bottom of who excluded me.

Imrags is definitely going to win this thing. Who do you think

it was Hank? Why are you laughing? I have no idea. I don't either.
Me neither. Are you saying it was you? No.
I have no idea. Okay.
I'll find out. So you want to do the Mount Rushmore? So I got a zillion of these so you can give them out.
Yes, actually, but i was i had the good fortune of going to

high school with a guy who was the son of a famous guy who made his mark in the gaming world

that guy went on to break every record quarterback record at alabama he was a he was truly a great

guy a nice guy and his dad was great and i my claim to fame in the football world is the first

Thank you. at Alabama.
He was truly a great guy, a nice guy. And his dad was great.
And my claim to fame in the football world is the first touchdown pass he ever threw, he threw to me. Who's that? Joe Namath? It was Mike Shula, son of Don Shula.
Crazy. So Shula has their steakhouse, their Shula burgers.
Very good. So I do that one.
Okay. Again, it's their own proprietary formula.
It's a great one. All right, I'll try that as well.
Yeah, let's do this Mount Rushmore. Man, if that had like a proof or an alcohol content, you'd be schnookered by now.
Seriously. This is really good stuff, though.
The part of my take, cayenne sauce. All right, so let's do the Mount Rushmore.
Ready? So it's the Mount Rushmore of arcade games. Okay, I almost know what we're doing, but let her rip.
All right. So you want to go first? So you know how obviously it's four picks each.
We're going to do a snake draft. It's you, it's me and PFT combined, and then it's these three guys combined.
So it's three teams picking. Would you like to start? Okay.
So I would pick a game? You'd pick? Yeah. Because I don't know what I'm doing, but'll figure it out yeah well the best game well no I was on stage at the Tokyo Game Show and uh that was awesome that was the player of the century uh but what was also announced there was the game of the century so what was the game of the century announced on the tokyo game show in 1999 and that would be the one that i would have to choose what game was it pac-man go ahead pac-man pac-man number one pac-man and pac-man was also the first game inducted into the video game hall of fame one one great pick great pick all right go ahead hank you go yeah's you.
That's you. Why are you looking at me? No, I'm just curious.
Curious about what? He's Googling video games. We're gonna go with Golden Tee.
Okay. Okay.
Interesting choice. Blah.
Oh, Billy says, blah. No, just for me it's a blah.
Okay. Are you yucking his yum? Blah.
Blah. See, I think...
I think his choice needs some hot sauce. I think it's a perfectly fine choice.
Probably could have gotten in the third round. Yeah.
Good choice. What's actually good about that is Golden Tee, over the years, they change it.
They update the courses. It's on and on.
So, in that respect, it is a good choice. Nice.
You made him feel better. All right.
Our first pick... I usually don't do that.
I'll go then you go i'm just gonna take off the top yep nba jam one of my favorite video games of all time arcade nba nba jam billy's looking at me like what are you talking about how you didn't play nba jam no well because i never played pac-man because nba Jam came after the golden age of video games.

So when did the golden age end?

That came to a close in 1986.

The reasons why it came to a close in 1986, two reasons that I speak of.

One is, after that is when video games took a hard turn, some of them, towards violence, not NBA Jam.

Right.

And the other one was, the competitive world every game every game

after that year you'd play a game you'd get a score oh put another quarter in and continue and continue and continue i see you and you say oh i got the high score yesterday i'd say yeah what did it cost you it wasn't one play one start yeah so that's one of the reasons uh pay to win but Let's go back to uh it's like video games now um the guys from midway uh tim in particular recently at the bloomington um con uh we gave geez i wish i had one i would have known um he got an award again for his contribution what he did what he helped create uh and i throw in mouse pads and sauce and all that stuff just to be fun but no the idea of you mentioned nba jam and just recently geez two weeks ago um they were honored at a convention yeah did you honor them was that the billy mitchell award for excellence in video games well yes it wasn't from me but i did present i did speak of yeah uh but again more often than not it's somebody like walter doing that yeah gotcha okay all right so that's our first pick you know what i think i'm gonna go with um with the last one yeah on the list love it this is maybe my favorite game of all time big buck hunter fucking love big buck hunter absolutely You put me in a bar with a stack of ones,

and I will be glued to the Big Buck Hunter screen.

Double Buck bonus, triple Buck bonus.

Sometimes I shoot the female deer by accident.

I think if there's a Golden Tee next to a Big Buck Hunter,

people are going for the Golden Tee.

Bullshit.

Maybe an idiot like you.

No way.

You just don't have that killer instinct, Hank.

Billy, which one of those games is better, you think?

I think we should go on to the next choice. Okay, all right, Hank, go ahead.
Street Fighter. Ah, that's a good pick.
We had that pick. That's a good pick.
We had it as well. Billy's looking at us like we're crazy because Donkey Kong lasted all the way to him coming back and around.
You would have to put a fighting game in. Yes.
And you'd be hard-pressed to pick one before a street fighter. It's also personal.
Donkey Kong is the greatest game of all time, the reason Billy's here, but I didn't play it that much. None of my team did either.
Right, but be honest, you didn't play it that much because it was so damn hard. Yeah, that's true.
Because you're a beta. It's your pick, Billy.
You got two. Okay.
See, what's going to happen here is you guys are setting me up for the fall. No.
Yeah, you are. Just so you know in the audience, if I don't pick Donkey Kong, it's going to go without being picked.
So, yeah. Donkey Kong.
It's probably the only game classic game that has tournaments usually on a yearly basis so how would you not choose that and again the Kong off is in Australia in Brisbane July 16 and 17 yeah so will you be there? no I should say yes so that I can let him sweat it 17. Yeah.
Will you be there?

No.

Wow.

I should say yes so that I can let them sweat it out again.

Yeah, you should.

You should get them all scared.

How many steps ahead of your competition are you at all times?

Because you do always have a plan.

I imagine you show up places a lot of times unexpectedly, already ready to put Billy Mitchell out there.

Yeah, I actually have two very strong things planned that uh that they don't know about so you're correct they being your haters no they being um to be honest i don't even think about those guys yeah but they meaning uh the general public or the people who follow it uh-huh because the element of surprise is always awesome you spend a lot of time like planning your schemes which i respect a lot of people just do schemes half-assed you're you're very meticulous well like for example there's other people other players who could um whether you want to call it randomly or the way that i send something to dave they could do something they They could make an effort. They could plan.
They could conjugate something in their mind. They could send something that would catch attention.
They would say that they're going to be in an area. They could prepare themselves for the opportunity.
Look up luck in the dictionary. It would likely say when preparation meets opportunity.
I try to always be prepared for that opportunity so when people say you know you got lucky well yeah i did i prepared for it yeah right if you're not prepared you'll never do it one of my lines is you'll never get lucky you'll never win if you're not there when they spin the wheel you have to be there the harder you work the luckier you get right again when people say why you why did you get this attention why did you you know receive this interview this award um this victory what separated me from other players from that original say life life magazine photo the first esports event um a friend of mine, Ben, Ben would sometimes show up somewhere and sometimes he wouldn't. Ben couldn't get as lucky as me in the aspect of gaming.
He's had a great life. But in the aspect of gaming, because he wasn't there when the wheel went round, I was always there.
Always, always, always. I i for the most part never missed anything therefore

i had the opportunity to get lucky yeah okay you have another pick me yeah you go twice now and then he comes back around so we did donkey kong yeah you got pac-man and donkey kong good strong board so far for you wow it'd be'd be a great game and not one that I stuck on. But, again, I'm going to stick with the classic age.
Only because it was expected to outperform or upend Pac-Man was Defender. Okay.
And Defender's a great game and many games followed after Defender but Defender set the stage for them. Many people would I actually don't recall if that was the next game introduced into the Video Game Hall of Fame.
But if it wasn't, it was one after that. But yeah, definitely Defender.
Okay. Good pick.
Hank? Dan? Henry? Eric? I'm going to go with... I'm going to fucking kill you.
Not that one. Pop a shot.
I'm going to go with pop a shot pop a shot good good call good choice do you ever do you ever fuck with that billy like ski ball pop a shot nothing nah he's looking at me like i'm a psycho i love pop a shot i love pop a shot pop a shot you never do that just to like kill some time if you're in the arcade that's fine but that doesn't belong in the same category as what we're talking about. It's in the arcade.
It's also in the U.S. Do they have one at Fun Spot? They have everything at Fun Spot.
You've referred to Fun Spot as being the Augusta of arcades, and they've got a Papa Shot. They've got it.
Okay, so now I have to go practice pop a shot come back here next time so i can so i can put ass with you just don't like it because you're not good at it that's your thing i'll beat you like you're you're you hate things that you aren't competitive at hmm i'll fuck you up in pop a shot billy all right uh pardon my take i'll take that okay all right great done let's set it up. All right.
My pick. Our pick.
Who? Cruising USA. Wait.
Whose pick? Well, I was going to do the next pick. We've already discussed our entire thing.
Yeah, Hank, quit trying to drive a wedge between us. We discussed this.
No, I'm just curious. I forget.
Sometimes you say team because it's my pick. Well, because we have discussed.
Is it your pick or are you guys together? God, you're going to do this every time? No out on our sport now? I forgot. I forgot.
All right. Cruising USA.
Is that the bike game? No, it's the car game. It's the car game.
It's a legendary car game. You sit in the cockpit of the car.
I guess it's got a driver's seat. I've been playing too much flight sim recently.
It's so awesome. But, yeah, you've got the pedals right there.
You steer. Great graphics.
Drive through across America. You can run over crowds on the side.
It was the first car game that I remember where you could sit in it. I don't know if that's...
Billy can fact check me, but I don't remember. I remember as a kid seeing Cruise in USA for the first time being like, holy shit, this rules.
I think Billy doesn't like it because it's too gimmicky. You have to sit in the thing.
It's's not a joystick and the buttons and a screen they've introduced too much technology it's funny you mention that like today's game I watch my son play and he's always using at least nine fingers like what happened to the joystick and the button or steering wheel but you're correct but let's go to your point it's not that I don't like that because that is a good choice but thank you but what came what was the preempt for cruising usa let's just say it was outrun what was it for outrun probably pole position you know we're back to 1981 now yeah um before pole position turbo yeah both pole position and turbo you could sit in as well. Not the moving graphics like you're talking about, but again, always trying to show appreciation going back to where things began.
You respect the greats. Standing on the shoulders of giants.
That's the only reason you can see so far. I like that.
I like that too. Our last pick? For our last one, you scumbag Hank.
So I want to do a fighting game too, but you know what? I'm just going to do air hockey. Great one.
Air hockey is a great arcade game. Great one.
It is. It's an arcade game, Billy.
Billy's giving us nothing. You look at me like it's not an arcade game.
Well, you know me. I always got a story.
Yeah. So you're probably the world's best air hockey player.
You just don't tell anybody about it. No, but when I had to be, I was was in orlando i was at the king of kong arcade that we had in orlando airport for a few years till the leash ran out and one of the guys that came there maybe you guys know him one of the guys came there wanted to film me and he is without a doubt before today he's one of my favorite guys because, believe it or not, in the world of Hollywood, he was 100% honest.
That doesn't happen often. Okay, he said exactly what he wanted to do and he stuck to it and he never tried to smoke anything different.
And he went there. We had fun.
I had fun toying with him I mean I'm in an arcade I mean I'm in my turf and we finished it off with a game of air hockey and I'm just playing and laughing and he went way ahead of me and then I thought okay let's get serious and so it's like six to three or something and then boom boom boom it was six to six and then boom i hit it in seven six so i thought well he's gonna leave that part out no he put it right in the film he did love it it's great but the guy was a a really good guy and uh i actually sent him a message that i was here because i never know when he's in new york and everybody comes to to New York at one time or another. So who was that guy?

Vince Vaughn.

Michael Bay. Bill Belichick.

Steven Spielberg.

Morgan Spurlock.

But I haven't heard back from him.

Is that the guy who ate all the cheeseburgers?

Yeah.

He was terrific and he's somebody

the impression

he gave on me

I don't want to give the wrong impression here but the impression he gave me

if he came up to me and said, Bill, we're going to film, we're going to do this, that, this, and that, you'll get this, that, this, and this, I'd say, okay. He'd say – if he said to me, okay, I'll have it put into a contract for you.
No, no, no, your word's good enough. Yeah.
You know how dangerous that is in Hollywood? Yeah, it is. But he's a guy that fits that.
He was that classy of a guy. Yeah.
All right, Hank, your team's last pick. Our final pick, I mean, probably on the Mount Rushmore itself, all-time great arcade games.
Can't believe I'm getting this in the fourth round. We're getting this in the fourth round.
Pinball. Oh, you're getting it in the fourth round.
Yeah, no, I – Pinball. That's like saying saying electronic game can't you be a little more specific pinball yeah pin pinball is a it's a wide variety of pinball games you can play kiss there was a place in california star wars 700 different pinballs not anymore the one i the one i played in the bowling alley growing up was an ACDC pinball, I believe.

I don't know if that changes anything.

Because what you picked right there was saying, oh, I'm going to choose Xbox.

No.

For my game.

It's the same format, is it not?

No, it's wildly different.

What are some other ones then, PFT?

Kiss.

Star Wars.

What's the difference between Kiss and Star Wars?

There's a Beatles.

There's a Beatles one that we all know of. But what's the difference between those games? Different layout, different format.
Yeah, the layout's different, the format's different. Different bumpers.
And the bumpers. I don't think you know anything about pinball, Hank.
How about if you narrow it down? I mean, like, there was Gottlieb and Williams and Stern, and so you could say, like, Stern pinballs were the greatest. Whoa.
Yes, I did give a plug right there. Wow.
You a Stern boy? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, well, I'll let it stand. And it's not only because Stern makes great pinballs, but Gary Stern's a great guy.
Okay, we'll let it stand though, but you just got schooled by Billy and pinball. Yeah.
Okay, Billy, your last pin. Billy, not 50.
But your favorite was ACDC?dc yeah that's the one i played i'll look up who the manufacturer is with that real quick all right billy your last pick because i know you gotta you gotta start filming something um the last pick again i'm trying to pick games that had an impact right um games that are still popular today right uh a game geez there's too many to say i mean i want to say space invaders but i won't wow i want to say frogger but i certainly won't whoa oh battle frogs you ever beat battle frogs never battle toads was impossible's impossible. Literally the hardest game ever.
Battle Toads. Okay, so...
But the game I would pick, especially for all the gamers that are looking... I mean, I...
Although it wasn't something I played heavily, it would have to be Galaga. Mm-hmm.
I always hear people talk about Galaga. I've never played it myself.
But if I play Galaga, the precursor to Galaga is Galaxian. But I'll stick with Galaga.

Okay, so no Space Invaders.

Oh, Galaga was fun.

It was one of the games that absolutely, Space Invaders,

that launched games.

It was 1978.

But it doesn't have the staying power of Galaga.

Okay.

I like Galaga.

Okay, well, Billy, this has been incredible. We appreciate appreciate you coming on i think people are going to really enjoy this um you are a legend you know that you're a living legend and uh anytime you want to come back on we'd love to have you well uh since you guys are so competitive in the sports world and this is esports yes it is a skill yes it is athletes yes these people do deserve the recognition and advocation that we try to give uh i was saying last night that if something is done competitively a world championship on this or that or this I can't think of a better place than Barstool

to do that because

it's like you already have the infrastructure for that.

In other words, take somebody that we spoke well of like Morgan Spurlock.

No, he doesn't have, it would take a lot of work for him to prepare what it is you already

have prepared to do it.

So yeah, I've had that pondering in my mind all night like, wow, you're in New York.

Thank you. it would take a lot of work for him to prepare what it is you already have prepared to do it so yeah i've had that pondering in my mind all night like wow you're in new york is there someplace better uh gee you guys have the right nature but you have the right attitude is it competitive yeah but is it fun yeah is it something you should take seriously to your grave no that's coming from me imagine that.
Imagine that. I'll throw some ideas at you for the future.
All right. Well, let's do the tournament.
I'm excited. Yeah.
Thank you, Billy. We appreciate it.
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Okay, let's wrap up with Guys on Chicks. Reminder, Friday's episode, very special Dungeons and Dragons where we did our own journey game all contained within one episode.
So if you haven't listened to the past Dungeons and Dragons, cause you're like, Oh, I'm not caught up. You don't have to worry.
We started fresh with Nick and Tim Woods and it was plot twist galore. Game of Thrones is like, damn, if our, if our last season was anything like this, we would have had people just going crazy for it.
Agreed? Facts. Yes.
I think it was our best campaign yet. Agreed.
Agreed. And a lot of twists.
Yeah, Nick was incredible. Yeah.
Okay, let's do a couple guys on chicks. Stella Cam real quick.
That's Stella Cam. She's been whining.
Stella is doing the dumb dog thing where she's seen a deer every day and been like, today's the day I'm going to catch a deer. Get it, Stella.
No, I know. Like Hank with the fish.
I know. It's not happening.
It's not happening, but she thinks she will. All right, guys on chicks.

Wait, there's a poster up in this room right now that says,

believe in yourself, Stella.

So there you go.

You're going to get that deer.

Got it.

If she got to a deer, I think the deer would just kick her and it would just be over.

It'd be curtains.

I don't want her to get close to the deer.

All right, go ahead.

My boyfriend has been eating soups for lunch every day for six months because PFT told him it's soup diet season. Can you have PFT tell him it's the summer and no longer soup season or at least that eating clam chowder every day isn't going to help him lose weight? Yeah.
Yeah, you're right. The clam chowder is not the best soup to be eating for lunch every single day it's cream based uh and summertime is not soup it's not soup season but the soup diet does work you can lose a lot of weight if you just do soups or salads every day for lunch during the week it works but in the summertime like this is why you do the soup diet that's what he's not understanding is like summertime is meant to just get fat and gross and eat whatever you want and just treat your body like a dumpster.
So there's really no point in dieting over the summer. Like what am I, what am I trying to get ready for football season winter? No, I'm going to be trying to pack on weight for those occasions.
So I'm glad that he did the soup diet, but also a major tenant of the soup diet is knowing when to stop the soup diet and then just going like ape shit on your body with everything else. So a couple of things.
One I've tried, I should write down all the diets I've tried in the past. I did try once to do a clam chowder and jambalaya only as a diet.
That didn't work. Shocker.
But I was's soup it's fine the summer diet thing i i find for heavier guys like myself the summer is like already puts a diet on you because you have to wear a t-shirt so don't think about dieting just you just know that like instinctively you're gonna probably eat a little bit less because you have to wear a t-shirt so that like that's diet in itself. Do you know what I mean? It's a shame diet that's built into the summer.
So you shouldn't have to think like, oh, I'm going to be on a diet in the summer. Just be fat, go wear a t-shirt, and then you probably won't eat a second dinner.
That's how I do. Also, in the summertime, it's so hot outside.
I feel like just by being outdoors in the sun, boom, that's another 500 calories I burned today just by being by being slightly uncomfortable for most of the day. So you don't need to continue the soup diet, although I do respect it.
Hey, guys, every time my boyfriend gets a boner, he will pull his pants down and say out loud boing like the like a noise a flexible doorstopper makes. He laughs for at least five minutes every time he does it and thinks it's the funniest thing he's ever done should i be concerned or let him just ride it out thanks sounds like you gotta do something about that yeah just saying he's doing that because yeah it's like there's only one way to get take care of this problem yeah he's just out there.
He's like, it's not going to go away on its own. Either that or he might still be at the age where you get recreational boners and not just like utilitarian boners.
At our age, if you get a boner, it's because you're about to use it. You don't pull it out.
It's like a gun. You don't pull it out and not use it.
But when you're like between the age of 12 and I'd say 27, 28, they just happen sometimes. You just get like a casual like, oh, what? Oh, surprise boner.
That's cool. Yeah.
No, when you get into your mid to late 30s, you have to be like, all right, it's time to try to get a boner. Like, you're like, clear my schedule.
I'm going to try to get a boner like you're like clear my schedule i'm gonna try to get a boner today and you can't waste the boner that's the that's the other thing at this age if you have it and you waste it that's a sin if you don't use it you lose it no it's illegal it's illegal in many of the southern states now for a man to have an erection and to not use it for procreation all right one with this one i don't know i don't know if i believe this one it's it's preposterous hey fellas my boyfriend and i have been dating for five years and we just moved in together one thing that always worries me was that he keeps all of his losing bet tickets and hangs them all over the walls in his bedroom he says that it makes him a better gambler because the first thing he sees every day is his mistakes i thought that when i moved in he would take them down but he refuses to how do i get him to stop being such a child i like this um i'm just thinking about like what suppressing what what could like if i laid out all my losing bets in my entire life, I think it would go around the world like seven times. You'd be a hoarder.
I kind of like it just because I think every gambler has had this moment. I've had moments where I'm like, I'm going to start a spreadsheet so that I can track what I'm losing.
I used to carry around little notebooks where I'd write down every single bet. Um, yeah, you're just going to keep losing.
It doesn't really matter. Like, I think you just encourage him to at least like, at least he's acknowledging that he loses.
Cause that's better than, than having your boyfriend be like, I never, ever lose. And, but yet he loses all the time.
So he's acknowledging it. So I think you just let him go with it.
And so I guess you must live in a state that has like a sports book nearby that he goes to and plays his bets in person i think it'd be kind of a psycho move to like print out a statement from like the app that you use like have to like take a screenshot email it to yourself print it out and then hang it up that would be concerning behavior but if it's just like a little momentum also mement it's like, it's just a memory of a fun time that you had when you were betting on a game too. This is, that's a guy's version of scrapbooking.
I found the little note. So little notebooks I had, it was probably like 15 years ago.
They're a little pocket notebooks I'd put in my back pocket and I'd write down all my bets before I left my house. And I would like go throughout the day.
I'd have a pen and a notebook and I would do X or check. And I found them a few years ago when I was moving and it was great.
It was like, oh shit, like this day didn't go so well. Why'd you take like every single over? Like, what are you doing? And it was just like, you know, like it just like the history of my life.
And just a Saturday of just like 40 bets and they're all X's.

It's like that was kind of fun to go back down. It is a trip down memory lane.
Like if you pulled out a notebook from 2016 and you're like, oh, that's the Gucci game. That's when Hank hit me with the Gucci.
Yes. You go back and you feel all those thoughts and all those memories.
The beautiful thing about even if you lose gambling,

if you just wait long enough, you'll be able to look back

and be like, that was fun. I truly had fun losing money on that game.
Yes. And there are moments of my life that are seminal moments that are really just around, like the day my son was born.
I took Glennie Balls gave me two WNBA overs in the middle of the day, both lost. I'll remember that for the rest of my life.
People think I cried because my son was born. It was because I had lost those two overs.
Like those are just, you know, those are special moments that I can, I can someday tell my son like, Hey, the, your birth was incredible, but those two losers really fucking sucked. Every time I see TJ Watt, I'll be like, hey, that's not Derek.
Yeah, right. It's like little bookmarks on your life that you can go back to and be like, oh, that was kind of fun.
Antonio Brown fucking up two of those catches back-to-back in the end zone on Sunday Night Football. Oh, my God.
That was a great one. They ran that play for him.
Too soon. I can't wait for football season.
God damn it. I can't wait for that season god damn it i can't wait for football season um okay all right let me do numbers that's the show uh we'll see everyone on friday let's see random number generator 42 24 26 27 6 what'd you guess 24.
All right, here we go. Pressing it.
This doesn't count, though. 64.
64. Yeah, that would have been bad.
That would have been bad. That's a sixth timer.
Maybe next week when we're back, because we're going to be doing Zoom the last week of July, maybe we should just record a couple from the ping pong machine just for safe keeping we should also do do one where hank just has like maybe a live stream hank just has to keep playing the lotto machine over and over again until he wins and we call it blake of the year blake yeah yeah do we put it back in or does it get easier as it goes on? No, we put it back in.

Actually, that should be how we do Blake of the Year this year.

Like me and you will get together and we'll assign different lotto numbers

to different Blakes.

And then Hank has to sit there picking a different number each time

with a full machine until he gets it right.

And then we just decide who's the Blake of the Year.

I like it.

Okay.

See everyone on Friday.

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