Paul Rabil, Mr Portnoy + Steph Curry's Legacy Game

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, a two for the people. We've got Paul Rabel in studio.

Speaker 1 We almost, by the way, PFT, got old takes exposed because we recorded this midweek last week and we're like, oh, the Water Dogs are 0-2.

Speaker 1 They went all the way to overtime, but yes, they are 0-2. So we still look good in this interview.

Speaker 1 And then we have our lawyer, Mr. Portnoy.
It had been a long, long time.

Speaker 1 Great to catch up with him. A lot of laughs.
Very, very funny moments. We're going to talk game four in Boston on Friday night.
Get you ready for game five in Golden State on Monday.

Speaker 1 Who's back of the week? And also, it seems like we've got a Curry Love Triangle that we're going to figure out after the interviews.

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Today is Monday, June 13th,

Speaker 1 and Steph Curry's legacy has entered the chat. Let's go.
Legacy series, baby. Legacy series.

Speaker 1 Friday night, Steph Curry went into Boston and dropped an all-time, all-time performance.

Speaker 1 Hank, you want to just lead off?

Speaker 1 With what?

Speaker 1 How are you feeling? Yeah, with your thoughts. Just your thoughts.
How's your butthole doing? Yeah, just your thoughts.

Speaker 6 My butthole is clenched. It was a very impressive performance from Steph Curry.
He did everything for them. Clay Thompson, Draymond.
I mean, Clay played well. Draymond's

Speaker 6 absolutely useless.

Speaker 1 He almost had a single double. Yeah, well, he had nine rebounds.
Nine rebounds and eight assists. He is Ben Simmons.

Speaker 6 It kind of felt like when Draymond, after the first game, was like, oh, well, we won 40 of the minutes and just, you know, fell apart. That's how that game felt.

Speaker 6 The Celtics felt like they were in control the whole time.

Speaker 6 There was a few times where they had like a six, five-point lead where if they had just, you know, had a couple stops and a couple good possessions, they would have pulled away.

Speaker 6 And Steph Curry just wouldn't let it happen.

Speaker 6 It was tough. He was taking the air out.
There were a lot of moments. Big Cat loves where everyone's going crazy.
Then they hit a three and everyone just shuts up.

Speaker 1 I mean, those are the greatest moments in sports.

Speaker 6 And Marcus, like at the end of the game, the last four minutes of the Celtics, they just fell apart. They forgot how to play basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this happens at the end of a lot of games where Smart gets a lot of open looks. And I guess just in a vacuum, they're good shots because he's open.
Right.

Speaker 1 But when it's Marcus Smart taking them at the end of games, they're not necessarily good shots. Well, they're by design.

Speaker 1 I mean, Golden State deserves a little credit for saying, like, we're going to take away everyone but Marcus Smart and see if he can beat us.

Speaker 1 I also like that game, it did feel like we talked about it before game four, that like the Celtics are the better team.

Speaker 1 And if they beat the only way they lose is beating themselves, it was Steph Curry beating them, but there was a lot of Celtics beating themselves.

Speaker 6 Yeah, at the PFT's point,

Speaker 6 if they make it, yeah, they would have been back in the game, but I would rather live and die with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum making or missing shots.

Speaker 6 I don't even think they shot in the last four minutes, maybe once.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 1 Tatum had a lot of turnovers. So I was out in San Francisco and I was at a wedding.

Speaker 1 I was at the rehearsal dinner on Friday night and I did the thing where I hadn't seen my friends in a really long time. So I got blackout drunk, way too drunk on Friday.

Speaker 1 And then Saturday, like the wedding, I was like, I'm just shell of myself. So I watched the entire game and I did not remember anything.
I was taking notes during.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to read you just my notes real quick because I remember I was watching the game, watched every single play, and then one of my buddies who wasn't watching after was like, Like, what happened?

Speaker 1 I was like, Warriors won and Steph. And that was like all I could tell him.
So, I, my notes are, these are notes I was taking during the game.

Speaker 1 He's like, Dude, you're so drunk that you're not going to be able to remember this. Hold on, let me find my notes.
Where the fuck did I put them? Oh, yeah, here it is.

Speaker 1 Okay, uh, first note is just Steph.

Speaker 1 Second note is

Speaker 1 Stephen. I wrote Steph, so I guess I'm not as close as him.
Second note is just Dave's shirt is way too big.

Speaker 1 He was wearing, like, it looked like a pajama shirt. Triple X out.
I I know.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't it not be awesome if Dave Portnoy was the one that brought back like the big white tea look?

Speaker 1 So you could go into like any gas station and get the like quadruple XL fresh press white tea.

Speaker 1 He looked like he was walking out like

Speaker 1 a college, like a dude's apartment, and like the girlfriend walks out after a long night and being wearing like the guy, her boyfriend's shirt.

Speaker 1 What is going on right now?

Speaker 1 Like a middle school girl waiting for her dad to pick her up at the pool. Yeah, it was just, I actually had a tweet where I didn't have sell service points, and I got one out that was just like,

Speaker 1 I can't get any tweets out making fun of Dave's shirt. This is my personal hell.

Speaker 1 And then my next one is Draymond is Ben Simmons, because he.

Speaker 1 Now, Steve Kerr deserves all the... I watched the game back on Saturday after I was sober.
Steve Kerr deserves a ton of credit. The people who say Steve Kerr can't coach.
Bad coach.

Speaker 1 Going offense, defense, and also having the balls to pull Draymond out of the fourth quarter. And that offense, defense actually worked because Draymond had a couple deflections there at the end.

Speaker 1 And he basically was like, Draymond Green does not want to shoot.

Speaker 1 He is Ben Simmons at this point, where it's like he could have a completely open look going towards the basket and he will pass it up.

Speaker 1 Which is smart. Yes.
It's smart for him at this point. Like, because if he does force it at the basket, he's going to do that thing where he puts up a finger roll and it goes off the backboard.
Right.

Speaker 1 It doesn't hit the rim. Right.
He's just breaking the backboard all the time. My next note was just Steph Woe.
That must have been just a big 3E hit.

Speaker 1 That was probably that move that he did because Steph does this when he's really feeling it. He'll do the thing where he does a fake step back to a three.
They try to block it. He drives past them.

Speaker 1 They catch up with him. He does like a full 360 pivot, ends up going towards the basket and just throws up a little teardrop that doesn't even hit the net.
It just goes straight through.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are, he had everything going.

Speaker 1 He had the ones where

Speaker 1 he was getting the ball forced out of his hand, and then he'd run the full baseline and then show up in the corner and hit one.

Speaker 1 I think this one was the one where he was looking for a foul, which wasn't there. He like fell down, and that was where it was like, he's just going to hit every shot that he takes.

Speaker 1 And then Wiggins went to rebounding school. He just felt like every time they needed a rebound, he was there.
I don't know where he came from. Rebounding school.
Yeah, he went to rebounding school.

Speaker 1 And then my last note is Steph, whoa, whoa. Okay, that's a good idea.
I mean, honestly, that's a pretty solid recap of the game.

Speaker 1 That's a drunk recap. That's really how you could follow it.
I was watching the game in a bar in Brooklyn that did not have a television, television, which so I was watching it on my phone.

Speaker 1 It's redundant. And if, yeah, it is extremely.
I looked it up before I went there. I was like, this place is probably not going to have a TV.

Speaker 1 And not only did that place not have a TV, none of the bars within like a two-block radius had a TV.

Speaker 1 So if you're watching, if there's like a big sports game on in a bar where they don't have a TV and you are the person that has the ESPN app on their phone pulled up, you become a god in that bar.

Speaker 1 I had like a little

Speaker 1 gathering around me of people that were just treating it like it was the bar's television. Right.
And you become like a superstar. People like sending you free drinks.

Speaker 1 Thanks for letting me watch your TV. Right.
No problem. So I was

Speaker 1 I had a lot of takes too that I wish I could have tweeted out, but I can't be tweeting

Speaker 1 because everybody is watching my phone. You should have what you should have done is you should have pulled it down so it was in the top right corner while you tweeted.
Yeah, let me tell you.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, guys. You're going to have to watch the corner of my phone.

Speaker 1 Let me get this tweet off. I've got a burning addiction to being online.
But yeah, it was Steph.

Speaker 1 It was the Steph game. It was the Steph game.
And Hank, I'm more curious about the atmosphere in Boston. On a scale of 1 to 10, how classy were you? I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 It was way more classy than I was expecting.

Speaker 6 Really? There was like a couple fucked Raymond's, like one fucked clay, but I was actually expecting it to be a lot more and a lot more consistent.

Speaker 1 It looked like an electric

Speaker 1 atmosphere.

Speaker 1 Where were you sitting?

Speaker 6 We were like behind the basket. Great tickets.
Shout out to GameTime. My only other observation from the Celtics game is that obviously his knees are made of glass.

Speaker 6 And I don't know, he wasn't like playing in the end of the fourth quarter. But when Robert Williams, he's the most impactful player on the court.

Speaker 1 He was insane.

Speaker 6 Like as many blocks as he has, he probably has so many more that just because his presence is there, they don't even try and take shots.

Speaker 1 And it's just

Speaker 1 rebounds.

Speaker 6 He's just, he, he, he had like 10 rebounds the first quarter.

Speaker 1 He brings the energy for the Celtics. Now, um,

Speaker 1 my question to you, Hank, is like when you were watching that game, because that was an all-time Steph Curry performance. 43 points.
I think he was seven for 14 from 3. Like, just insane.

Speaker 1 It felt like every time he was shooting the ball, it was going in. Did you have that feeling standing there? Like, we're just so fucked because there's nothing you can do about it? Like, he was,

Speaker 1 you could argue that, you know, their defense dropped coverage, all these things, but there were times when Steph,

Speaker 1 they would try to give him a different look, and he still would figure out a way to beat it. It was just so insane.

Speaker 6 I think it was like nine minutes left, and the Celtics were up five or six, and it was a timeout, and Golden State of the boss said these are the most important next four minutes. minutes.

Speaker 6 And then I think they scored

Speaker 6 both times down the court and made it to two. And then after that, it was just, it was a Steph show.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was also one of those weird games where it was close, kind of like game one, where it was close. And then they took the lead and the Celtics just couldn't get it back and it was over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. It just ended.
Jason Tatum was a little bit more.

Speaker 6 But it was a close game, but it was 10 points at the end.

Speaker 1 Tatum got hurt in like the first five minutes of the game, as is custom for him now. I missed that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 was it the French shoulder? His French shoulder came out. That's what Chris Goldsbury was saying.
It's French shoulder. Like the big Ben walking boot thing.

Speaker 1 He was hurt in like the first five minutes, then he came back and he was fine after that. But yeah, I would be a little bit worried if I were you guys.

Speaker 1 And I thought that it looked like the Celtics were going to cakewalk their way. But there's nothing you can do when Steph plays like that.
There's simply, you can't stop that.

Speaker 1 Hank's going to get mad at this comment, but I still think the Celtics is a better team. Oh, they are.
I think they definitely are. I do.

Speaker 1 I do too. And I also think after.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you were looking for a bet after a loss, they've been undefeated these playoffs. You'd expect them to win on Monday.

Speaker 1 yes i do and so i like i obviously if steph decides to just do that again then you probably it's a totally different because like the celesties are the better team but steph curry is the best player on the court so that's kind of the equalizer at hand that we have i think richard jefferson how he explained the finals like it's all playing out pretty much exactly that way because andrew wiggins was when we were talking to kirk goldsbury on wednesday night saying like we andrew wiggins need to have a game where it felt like his presence was there and it was those offensive rebounds that he got where he had a couple layups at the end of the game, like he felt, it felt like he was out there.

Speaker 1 And his defense on Tatum has been very, very good.

Speaker 1 But if you go by what Richard Jefferson was saying, it's bad for the Celtics. He was saying that as the series goes on, I know, they're going to get tired.
I know. And the superstars.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, our man, Perk, carry the hell on, Kendrick Perkins. He said he's on board that give Steph Curry the MVP no matter what.
I love it. I support it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said no matter what, win or lose, Steph Curry deserves this MVP. I'd be willing to trade in Billy not being vegan just for the ensuing takes that would come with Steph Curry.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Winning the MVP and a losing F. And a losing F.
If Steph Curry wins, I'm going carnivore diet. Only Curry.
You should beat it. Only meat.
Only Curry would be funny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's terrible for your battles.

Speaker 6 This series has been also a big enemy of my enemy is my friend, where a lot of the golden state slander is coming from the LeBron Cavs team fans and all of the ammo that I've been using and seeing.

Speaker 6 It's like, yes, yes, yes. And then I realized these are all Cavs fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, however, LeBron says that he wants to play. I think he said it again.
He reiterated that he would like to play on Golden State at some point in his career. But you're right, Hank.

Speaker 1 It's all like anytime Steph has a bad game or like the Warriors have lost a game in this series, it's been like, well,

Speaker 1 Kyrie and Kevin Love got hurt one year. 2016 happened.
Then he needed KD to save him. That's basically been the narrative.

Speaker 1 It just goes back.

Speaker 6 And the one time it was even, they lost 3-1.

Speaker 1 It just goes back and forth of Steph Curry is top 10 all time to Steph Curry has been carried to everything, and he's the luckiest player in NBA. Mickey Mouse rings.

Speaker 1 And then you can always make the argument. I love this one where they talk about 2017, and they're like, if J.R.
Smith goes up with that shot, then the Cavaliers win that series. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can also say that. Yeah.
It's, I mean, it's, it's been a fucking hell of a finals. I'm excited for tonight.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm really nervous. Really, really nervous.
Very, very nervous. We'll be streaming.
Yeah. I'll be shitting my pants.

Speaker 1 We also have probably the biggest debate that we have to discuss ever in terms of sports debates. This one coming from Chris Weber,

Speaker 1 who said during the game, is Draymond. I was lucky enough to have this presence of mind to screenshot it when someone said it on the Pardon My Take group chat.

Speaker 1 He said, is Draymond Green the West Welker of the NBA? Yes or no? And if yes, what does that mean? And what does that mean for him and Wes?

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk about it. Let me read it one more time just because it is actually hard to follow.
No, no, I'm with you. Is Draymond Green the Wes Welker of the NBA? Yes or no?

Speaker 1 And if yes, what does that mean? And what does that mean for him and Wes?

Speaker 6 Okay, so we need him to have like a brutal turnover that loses them a game they should have won. Also, is he thinking to give away the championship?

Speaker 1 Is he thinking Julian Edelman? Because like Wes... Draymond has rings.
Yeah, no, you just doesn't.

Speaker 1 It's funny because you could actually make the argument that Chris Weber is the Wes Welker of college basketball. Right.
It's just like, I don't, right?

Speaker 1 That actually fits. Right.
Right. I think that's, I think that's, you know what he's doing?

Speaker 1 He's doing that whole thing where, like, if somebody's guilty of something, they project and they accuse other people. Yeah.
So he's getting out in front of it before anyone accuses him.

Speaker 1 He's just been Draymond.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's just been thinking about Wes Welker. I don't know.
I don't know where

Speaker 1 the analogies would start between Draymond Green and Wes Welker.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of one. I'm struggling to think of it.

Speaker 1 So let's see. Wes Welker went to Texas Texas Tech, right? Yeah, Draymond went to Michigan State.

Speaker 6 He was also not like Draymond's, you know, whatever, the third or fourth fiddle, but I feel like Wes Welker was also like kind of the number one receiver on a lot of the teams he played for.

Speaker 6 Maybe two, obviously, not with Moss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Clay's more similar to the like Wes Welker was awesome.

Speaker 6 He wasn't even Edelman, Wes Welker was more of a star when he was like really good than like Edelman worked his way up there.

Speaker 1 I could see Draymond maybe doing Molly recreationally. Yeah.
That could be a connection. Yeah.
Man, that would be concussions. That'd be weird, Draymond, on Molly.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's one of the weirdest analogies I've ever read.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it basically all weekend after seeing it.

Speaker 1 Where does it start? Give me one starting point that I can be like, yep, okay. All right, I'm going to follow you down this path.
Wes Welker,

Speaker 1 didn't he wear a fun hat at one point? That big concussion. Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 he wore the big concussion helmet, but he also went to the Kentucky Derby at the bottom. And he wore a fun hat.
I'm pretty sure that Draymond Green is a fun hat guy, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is West Welker the QB, the wide receiver coach?

Speaker 1 He's the Niners? He's the Dolphins now. I think he went over with McDaniel.
Okay. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Was he for the Texans at first? He was on the Niners. He was the Dolphins now.
He was the Niners. So I guess they were in San Francisco at the same time.
Briefly. Although he was in Santa Clara.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think he needs to put that take back in the oven for a little bit. I'm just trying to think what else.
I mean,

Speaker 1 how tall is Draymond Green? He's like 6'6 ⁇ . 6'7 ⁇ .
All right, so not that, because West Welk is 5'9. Yeah, 5'10.
Shit.

Speaker 1 We had one there. Let's see.
What else is West Walker? West Walker went out to Denver. Okay.
Played with Peyton Manning. Okay.

Speaker 1 The Warriors did beat the Nuggets this year. That's true.
Yep. Okay.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? ACL. I don't think Draymond's ever had an ACL.

Speaker 6 He was on the best regular season of all time, but lost a championship.

Speaker 1 Oh, there we go.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, I forgot about that.
That's where we start. Good memory, Hank.

Speaker 1 This is,

Speaker 1 yeah, Chris Weber. Way to go, dude.
I think it's just Chris Weber is the Wes Welker of college basketball. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a very, very bizarre thing for him to throw off. You don't really know if either one's going to be a Hall of Famer.
Yeah. Like they're both kind of borderline? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Although everyone makes the NBA Hall of Fame, but yeah, I'd agree. Like there'll be a, you know, that will become a big debate.
Yeah, should Draymond make the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 Although Draymond's going to be so good at Charles Barkley's role whenever Chuck wants to retire that he'll he'll make the Hall of Fame easily yeah because he'll be able to talk

Speaker 1 yeah right so all right anything else from game four that we miss that we need to talk about

Speaker 1 what what

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 what does uh

Speaker 6 what do you need to see starting you got a grammatical lesson oh really about what i hate that i uh i tweeted

Speaker 1 fucking a man oh Didn't use a comma. So yeah, I was like,

Speaker 6 I went back to my Twitter. Like,

Speaker 6 it was just a live tweet, like, during a commercial or something.

Speaker 1 I just said fucking a man. And didn't even look at it until after the game.

Speaker 6 And then I was looking, you know, it's like replies, 20 replies, 30 replies. And then fucking a man had like 300.

Speaker 1 That's perfect. You're such a good ally.
Love is love. Yeah.
Yeah. It's Pride Month.
I do think the Celtics plus three and a half is a good bet on Monday night. Me too.
It might look stupid.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, if the Celtics have never, they haven't lost this postseason following the loss. They haven't lost two straight, that would mean that they will win the championship.
Correct. In seven.

Speaker 1 Well, numbers never lie.

Speaker 1 They have won two in a row, so they could win two in a row. Fact.
Win in six.

Speaker 1 And you are going to be sitting on the wood for game six, which actually makes Monday night like the most pressure-packed game of your life because you can then go and sit on the wood for possibly a championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which would be like, you'd be in, you'd be in like the trophy presentation.

Speaker 6 Let's just not even talk about it. Let's focus on tonight.
No, we'll focus on tonight.

Speaker 1 No, but clearly you've thought about it. You've thought about looking up and seeing confetti.
You're going to get on the court. You're going to have a net draped around your neck.

Speaker 6 I'm concerned with how much I've thought about it.

Speaker 1 Yes. Do you think they'll let you give a speech?

Speaker 6 Maybe not. I mean, not like your speech at Wisconsin, but

Speaker 1 I'm not going to talk about it publicly.

Speaker 6 I have thought about it.

Speaker 1 I drove home today.

Speaker 6 I mean, I had a five-hour drive home today. You're right.

Speaker 1 So you were thinking, like, all right, what am I going to say here?

Speaker 6 Not say, but just like, yeah, no, I'm not going to talk about it.

Speaker 1 Go back to the fucking a man tweet. Did you capitalize the letter A? No.
Oh, no, that's even worse. So you really were fucking a man.

Speaker 6 Yeah, according to my Twitter. That was my update.
That was my Twitter update in like the third quarter or fourth quarter. It was probably after Steph, like kind of after Steph did something.

Speaker 1 It was after my first Steph woe. This might sound like

Speaker 1 I should know the answer to this question already, but what does fucking A mean? I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 1 Is it just from like British people being like, fucking hell? What is it? I just.

Speaker 1 Did you type fucking name?

Speaker 1 I thought they come in.

Speaker 1 Come on, Billy. What does fucking A mean? mean? It's okay.
Where does it come from? Fucking A. Because I think British people would always be like, fucking L.
Oh, it's U.S.

Speaker 1 slang, vulgar, an expression of triumph or joy, usually in response to an unexpected good news.

Speaker 1 Comes from the military saying affirmative, which was said by soldiers in the heat of battle as fucking affirmative, which was later shortened to fucking A.

Speaker 1 And which was later shortened to fucking amen. The meaning of this phrase has been changed.
It is now used to express something as good.

Speaker 6 This is a double negative. Yeah.
I didn't even use it correctly.

Speaker 1 Twice. I think you can also use it to be like, ah, shit.
It could just be like shit.

Speaker 6 That's what I was going for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it can be. Fucking A.
Listen, language evolves over the years.

Speaker 6 Fucking A, man. Fucking A, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's like,

Speaker 1 did our bunker get here? Did you get bombs? Yeah. Fucking affirmative.
Yeah. I missed it.
I was fucking a man. That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I must have missed it. All right.
Other things before we get to who's back. The lightning.

Speaker 1 I think think I kind of want to bet on the Lightning to win this series. It's going to be interesting.
They just don't lose. They don't.
And

Speaker 1 this was a Karma series for the Rangers. Yeah.
After that game where they had the Rangers fan that just sucker-punched the Lightning fan in the Concourse. It's like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I have to say, Memes was right. Yeah.
Scumbags.

Speaker 1 Scumb Staten Island specifically. Yeah.
Scumbags. And then he showed up for court wearing the Rangers shirt.
Which I respect that. So actually, I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 I really do want, like, I've said this before, but I want every time there's like a major arrest and they write about it in the news, I want to know, like, what team that person rooted for.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 1 So if it's like if it's a great context. Bank robbery.
It's like Celtic fan arrested for bank robbery. Yeah, it's the context that we all need.
But yeah, that,

Speaker 1 they losing four in a row. Wait, no, yeah, they did, right? They were up 2-0 in the series, and they lost four in a row.
Yep. The Lightning are just...

Speaker 1 I know the Avalanche are better, and we're going to have Whitney on on Wednesday to preview the whole series.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they just don't lose. They're just.
Do you think it's because it's hockey that no one is sick of the lightning yet? Yeah. And they had one COVID.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's like that, that definitely makes it feel like

Speaker 1 I've had a few times where I've had to check myself and be like, oh, yeah, that would be three in a row. Yeah.
Kind of thing.

Speaker 1 Because if it was any other sport, I feel like America would be sick of that scene by now. We would hate them.
Yes. But I don't think anybody hates the Lightning.
It's a combo of hockey and Tampa.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I also think it's a perfect combo.
Like blue sweaters are tough in general to hate. Blue is like a a likable color.
Yeah, and lightning bolts. Yeah, it's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they are just, I mean,

Speaker 1 they're nails. Like, they just, everything about them, they just get better as the series goes on.
They, like, tighten, tighten things up, you know, don't let up goals. I, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's just, I, I, I'm sitting here before the series starts, and I've been thinking about what I want to bet.

Speaker 1 And everything says that the Avalanche are the best team in the NHL, but then it tells me, like, guess what?

Speaker 1 The Avalanche, maybe I'll wait till the Avalanche wins the first, like, two games or three games, and then the Lightning, they're like, all right, now we're going to start playing, and you're not going to score ever again, and we're going to win.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to take the over. I'm just going to root for goals and good games.
Yeah. I want some overtimes.
Now is the time where we are prepared for overtime playoff hockey. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been long enough to the point where like three overtimes, that won't phase me. One, two, three.
One super long overtime game would be a lot of fun. It'd be amazing.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm willing to stay up.

Speaker 6 I have a programming question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Justin Bieber concert is still off, even though. Yeah, because of his

Speaker 1 his face got paralyzed.

Speaker 6 Usually the NHL season ends before NBA, and we do Mount Rushmore at the end of NBA. Right.
Are we going to do it after NHL or after NBA?

Speaker 1 I think we do it after NBA. Oh.

Speaker 1 Wednesday.

Speaker 1 You just did Birmingham. Hockey Game 7 would be Tuesday, June 28th.
That's too long to wait. Yeah, I say we do it after the NBA finals.

Speaker 6 The earliest it would end is okay.

Speaker 1 You know what? Let's just do it this way. Let's do it.
Let's just say

Speaker 1 date that we'll let's make a compromise. So, even if the NBA Finals only goes six games, let's just start because this is how they always start the NBA Finals of Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 They say like what the date is well before.

Speaker 1 Let's just say that Mount Rushmore, the first Mount Rushmore, will be June 22nd, next Wednesday. I like that.
So, no matter what, June 22nd, next Wednesday. Set your clock.
See Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 If NBA Finals ends on Friday, we're still going to wait till next, the following Wednesday. That will be our kickoff Mount Rushmore.
Get your submissions in.

Speaker 1 We need topics this year. You got anything you want to hear us do? We're doing teams this year.
It's kind of like

Speaker 1 season, you know,

Speaker 1 seven of the challenge. Oh, it's like the live.
Yeah. It's like the live tour.
Yeah, right. But it's, yeah, they were.
We need mascots. We need really shitty logos.
We got to get logos. All right.

Speaker 1 We'll get logos. We're going to sell merch.
Commenter cat?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we got to do something that makes fun of them. We'll think of it.
We'll think of it. Well, let's, we don't want to show our hands.

Speaker 6 Double anchovies.

Speaker 1 No, it's double olives. Double olives.
Double olives.

Speaker 1 Hold the anchovies.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, I guess the live golf happened this weekend. That scoreboard, it looked like dude perfect.
It was weird to watch the whole thing. Charles Schwartzl,

Speaker 1 I'm at the point now where I can still disagree with all of what Saudi Arabia has done, but then I can chuckle every time someone like Charles Schwartzl, who hadn't won a tournament in forever, won and he was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I kind of need the money. Yeah, like this is sick.
Somebody pointed out, I forget who it was. They said that it was the tour for people who were either heavily in debt or recently divorced.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's exactly right. Like, if you need to make alimony payments, you're going to the fucking live.
You're signing me up for the live. You're going to take the money and run.

Speaker 1 Or, oh, I'll forget one other category: guys who may or may not have done steroids so much that they got hurt a bunch and said they were going to break golf and then golf broke them. And

Speaker 1 now they have to do it.

Speaker 1 If you're in debt to your steroid dealer, yeah right then you have to go out of there not naming names no we don't we don't know who that could be i think hank understood someone that everyone on the tour hates already that could also be true that could be the yeah but it could be another guy too yeah patrick reed is such a perfect fit for the live tour yeah if he steals anything they're gonna cut his hands off so it's like for him it's like you go through the debates like well will people hate me if i do this doesn't matter yeah did you see the pat peres he he basically had come out uh what it was like maybe february was like whatever tiger says is gospel, like is gold.

Speaker 1 We'll follow his lead. Like, there was someone who commented on his Instagram that was like, in February, it was like, go to the live tour.
He's like, hell no, never.

Speaker 1 And now he's joined. And he was like, yeah, after talking with my family and realizing the schedule was a little easier.
And after speaking, you know,

Speaker 1 he was my accountant. Yeah, parentheses, millions of dollars.
I'm now comfortable with doing that. Let's just say it moved me.
It just is a great life.

Speaker 1 It's a great life lesson to never say no to anything definitively because you probably will someday be swayed the other way.

Speaker 1 And that's what they have the power to do is if anybody says no, they're like, how about we just add another zero? Yeah, right. And I was like, yep, okay, yeah.
No, now you've convinced me. Well done.

Speaker 1 And then we had this league because Rory won the Canadian Open. And in his press conference after, he said,

Speaker 1 That's my 21st, one more than someone else, and that's someone else being Greg Norman, who has 20.

Speaker 1 And Greg Norman had an all-time picture that was taken after the introductory press conference, I think, on Thursday. Yes.
Where Alan Shipnick got kicked out.

Speaker 1 And then the goons from the tour were like escorting him out. And Greg Norman was like, I'm sorry I didn't see that happen.
I would have stepped in.

Speaker 1 Then a picture came out of Greg Norman lurking behind him with this grin on his face. He looked like a great white shark.
Actually, that smelled blood in the water. He was ready to pounce.

Speaker 1 It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm not here to judge anyone that's making $100 million

Speaker 1 from the golf standpoint, but

Speaker 1 the rivalry that's going back and forth and the controversy, I'm going to put the good for golf stamp on it. I think we're talking about golf more.

Speaker 1 Except when the commissioner of the PGA Tour got on the microphone today and he was like, hey, you guys remember 9-11? Those are the guys that did not.

Speaker 1 He invoked 9-11 as a reason why people should not leave the PGA tour. Now everybody's like, well, that was a bit much.
Yeah. But, hey,

Speaker 1 he's got to feel a little pressure right now. Yeah.
With the, with, with the commas that are getting thrown around. Yep.
I just hope that, I hope that they let,

Speaker 1 what's Patrick Reed's wife's name? Justine, I think. Sure.
It should just be Karen.

Speaker 1 I hope they let Karen

Speaker 1 Katty for Patrick Reed because a story came out over the weekend that was saying that Justine was upset because she didn't have direct access to the commissioner of the PGA Tour to voice her complaints that she voiced on the Real Golf Facts account.

Speaker 1 She was like trying to complain about Patrick Reed's starting times to the commissioner, and he was like,

Speaker 1 I can't handle you right now.

Speaker 1 So that's why she told Patrick to go over and play for the saudis right and she'll i'm sure all her complaints will be heard by the saudis yeah ask to speak to mbs's manager yeah

Speaker 1 see how that goes can i get yeah can i get a zoom call with mbs next week at 11 a.m okay cool um but yeah i i'd agree with you like good the there's been more golf talk in a non-major week than has ever happened besides like a tiger woods scandal it's kind of like the it's kind of like the super league actually that's actually tiger woods like he has to feel a little responsible Hey, you want to get more people talking about PGA?

Speaker 1 Get another scandal. Because that will get people going back the other way.
Exactly. That's the only thing that can fight it off.
Yep, that or Max Homo winning the U.S. Open.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, wait, so are these guys showing up to the U.S. Open? I think Phil is going to show up.
That's awesome. I hope Phil wears the all-black outfit.

Speaker 1 It's Dustin Johnson.

Speaker 1 I don't know if DJ is going to do it.

Speaker 1 I want all of them to show up because that will be very fun to watch. Them show up and be just shunned.
The bad boys. Yeah, and hated.
And what if one of them wins? Justine's wearing a hijab.

Speaker 1 hijab yeah she's like she's she's they probably wouldn't put him on the broadcast at all justine's the chick that went went for a semester abroad yeah she got

Speaker 1 it all happened in one weekend i'm pretty sure dustin jonathan's playing he's a 645 a.m practice round tea time this morning wow okay so

Speaker 1 yeah i don't know like how they're gonna cover him how they're gonna talk about them see this is good for golf i'm telling you like this this u.s open is gonna be incredible and they're only gonna play because they can't play in the pga tour events they're only gonna play in the majors which that's kind of all what we cared about.

Speaker 1 How awesome would that be open?

Speaker 1 If it's like Phil and Rory dueling it out in the final round on

Speaker 1 Phil and Tiger. For the sanctity of golf.
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 Maut has a

Speaker 1 warm-up round at 8.57 a.m. with Taylor Gooch, who's on live.
They are good friends,

Speaker 1 I think. Yeah.
Like, actually. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The whole thing is going to be fun to watch. I'm pumped.
Yeah. And some people are saying that Bryson ran because he was scared.
Not me. Not me.
But some people could say that. Billy said it.

Speaker 1 If the Saudis are listening, Billy said it. Billy's your number one fan.
Yeah, Billy is actually a huge Saudi guy. Spin zone, they're just stealing a ton of money from the Saudis.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's oh, that's a good reply guy tweet.

Speaker 1 You should say that. Like, better.
Just be like, yeah, now the money.

Speaker 1 Better Phil has it than the Saudi Royal family has it. Yeah, because it might end up back in penn gaming.
Exactly. Yeah, it's good for us.

Speaker 1 Our stock price should go up. Yeah, Phil's got money.
Yeah, Billy's going to be the reply guy being like, actually, the Dustin Johnson Foundation raised over $500,000 for kids this year.

Speaker 1 So this is actually really good. Yeah.
I mean, listen, you can make it work. Oh, you can do.
You can do any mental gymnastic you want to do.

Speaker 1 They should just say, like, yeah, they're paying me a fuckload of money. Yeah.
And that's what I'm doing. That's pretty much what Charles Schwartz was saying.
He's like,

Speaker 1 I haven't won a lot of money in a long time. There are some people that are going after the golfers, and some of the guys that haven't made that much money over their career.

Speaker 1 Like, one of of them, I forget who it was. Yeah, there's some like borderline like amateurs.

Speaker 1 Had like $4 million in career earnings, which is a lot of money, but it's not like I'm set for life, my family's set for life. It's not a lot of money if it's like 15 years.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 I think it was like 10 years or something like that, which is still, again,

Speaker 1 not bad, especially for playing a sport. But then you go over and you play for the Live Tour and they're giving you like $50 million guaranteed just for signing up.
Like that, you can't.

Speaker 1 You can't tell somebody like, oh, I wouldn't do that for $50 million because we all have our number. Right.
And again, my number is $100 million. Yes, mine as well.

Speaker 1 And it is funny, though, like, when you see, like, oh, yeah, $4 million career earnings.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, wait, but it took him 12 years to do it and taxes and, you know, paying the caddies and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, so he's probably, he's like, he's obviously okay, but it's not like he's rolling in dough. Yeah.
It's just tough to say no to that much money.

Speaker 1 When somebody actually backs the truck up for you, it's tough to turn that down.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to who's back. And then we got Paul Rabel and Mr.
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Speaker 1 Who's back of the week, Hank?

Speaker 6 Who's back of the week is Tennessee doing Tennessee fast.

Speaker 1 Ah, that was mine.

Speaker 6 University of Tennessee, Vol for Life, Big Cat, you were one of them. They were the number one seed in college baseball, and they got upset today by Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 They're not even going to the College World Series.

Speaker 1 By far the favorites, right?

Speaker 1 Like, they had three three number one picks and i remember they had a pitcher this year that was hitting like 105 miles per hour on the gun all the time which doesn't seem possible to me that means like that that radar gun is definitely rigged right but they kept talking about how he was like he threw three of the fastest like five pitches of all time this year yeah they were they were the bad boys every like everyone you can tell a team has struck a chord when everyone was reveling in the fact that tennessee had lost they won 57 games they had the back controversy.

Speaker 6 49-0 in leading after six innings.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. They had the back controversy.
They had the guy who was flipping off the other team. So they were the bad boys.

Speaker 1 I don't think, yeah, it's a fine line between being a bad boy and being a clown. Yeah.
I think if you don't actually make it, then you're a clown. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, their coach even said after the game that he's like, I love these guys. You know, we had a couple maniacs on the team, I think, talking about all those controversies, which, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, honestly, they were kind of fun to watch. Yeah, they were.
I liked watching them. Yes.

Speaker 1 But they're clowns.

Speaker 1 And And it's been, I follow a lot of Tennessee Twitter because of my days as their coach, and it was funny watching the different emotions that they all went through where it was like obviously shock and sadness.

Speaker 1 And then like, but SEC championship kind of more important than anything else. True.
I'm like, yeah, maybe not. And they also got that new quarterback on NIL.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Arch Manning hasn't been in a Tennessee uniform yet, I don't think. No.
Alabama and Georgia, I've seen him in. That's tough.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 So maybe we got to get him photoshopped in a jersey for tomorrow morning. That would be nice.
Yeah, just let's cheer up Tennessee. Memes when he listens to this part.

Speaker 1 Get us in a nice Arch Manning photoshopped Tennessee. Just a first look.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, oh, he's visiting Knoxville today. And you know what?

Speaker 1 He didn't want to go to a school where baseball took all the shine.

Speaker 6 So probably a lot of fans that already had their travel and stuff booked, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, to Omaha for sure. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was a home game.
Oof. Brutal.
Brutal. Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Yeah. that's tough.
Notre Dame, Notre Dame. That's awful.
Yeah. Thoughts and prayers.
Okay, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Dr.
Heat. Ooh.
Greg Williams. Yes.
Greg Williams is back.

Speaker 1 He just got named as one of the defensive coordinators for the yet-to-be-announced XFL teams that are playing. So

Speaker 1 if you were in fear that we were going to see the last of Dr. Heat running zero blitzes on third and long, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 If you think that he was dialing up the heat in the NFL, wait till he gets to the extreme football league.

Speaker 1 We're looking at extreme heat. It's going to be awesome.
Just blitz every, it's like how you used to play Madden back in the day, just run Engage Eight all the time.

Speaker 1 That's what Greg Williams is going to be cooking up.

Speaker 1 And I still don't know what the XFL is going to do, if they're going to have the same cities, if they're even going to have cities, if they're going to do the PLL model.

Speaker 1 But frankly, I don't care because I think I'm just going to root for whatever team Dr. Heat's coaching.
Yeah. Yeah, that will be...

Speaker 1 I will tune in for Greg Williams. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As long as it's not against college basketball games, but I'll tune tune in. All right, Mai Who's back.

Speaker 1 I had Tennessee, so I got baseball managers instead. Tony LaRussa on Thursday, before we taped early, because I had to travel,

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 the ire of all of White Sox Twitter because he intentionally walked someone in with a 1-2 count,

Speaker 1 making people be like,

Speaker 1 is he senile? What's the matter? I think it was Trey Turner, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was Trey Turner to get to Max Muncie, who then hit a home run.

Speaker 1 But it was a 1-2 count. I'm just going to chalk that up.

Speaker 1 It's a June weekend-ish game. Lewis was probably drunk.
Yeah. He probably tied a couple on.
That's fine. Things will be boys.

Speaker 1 And then the other one was Joe Madden, who got fired last week, but then the story came out later that

Speaker 1 he was fired in the middle of a 12-game losing streak that the Angels had. They've since won a game,

Speaker 1 but he had gotten a mohawk for the team, and he was getting ready to reveal it to them, and then he got fired. Yeah, that's tough.
So he didn't even get to see him. He got fired with the Mohawk.

Speaker 1 He got fired with a Mohawk. And he didn't get to even see the team with the Mohawk.
So he just went into the office. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How old is he? 60. Yeah, I mean, he's 68.
68-year-old man. Yeah.
Went into his boss's office with a mohawk. With a mohawk.
He's like, look, I got the answer. Got fired.
With a mohawk.

Speaker 1 And then he had to walk out of the office,

Speaker 1 fired with a mohawk on it, and then go home and tell his wife, I just got fired today with a mohawk. Yeah, and they're like, wait, did they fire you? Yeah, did did they fire you because of the hair?

Speaker 1 It's like, no, it was a 12-game losing streak. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you got to keep the Mohawk at least for one day, right? You got to go. No, you got to go.
You got to demand that you get to at least speak to the players. Yeah, Arley.
Show them the Mohawk.

Speaker 1 I would keep the Mohawk until my next job interview. But show them the Mohawk and hope that they win and then be like, hey, you sure you wanted to fire me? Because the Mohawk worked.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's kind of fucked up to be a fan of the fire.

Speaker 6 Maybe people go on TV and still have the outline of it.

Speaker 1 It's so funny. It's fucked up to fire a manager in the middle of the losing streak.
You got to make him dig his own way out of the losing streak. Right, you gotta find him.

Speaker 1 And then fire him afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 Joe Girardi, too. Tough, tough weekend for tough week for managers.
He got named Joe.

Speaker 1 He got fired a couple weeks ago, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 There used to be two Joe managers, now there's zero. I know.

Speaker 1 Is that true? That's true. Yeah.
No more Joe's. No more Joe's.
Fuck. Someone's going to be like, dude, what about the Royals manager? Like, I don't know.
Don't care. It's Ned Yost.
No. Who is the...

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see who the Royals manager is.
It's actually Joe. It is Ned Yo still.
Is it? No, it's Mike Mathini's back. Mike Mathini? Mike Mathini's the dumbest guy in the world.

Speaker 1 I love Mike Mathini. He's very funny.
He is, he just, so he just moved across the state. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. I'm happy Mike Mathini's back.
He is a total dumb-dumb.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy. My who's back? It's the peaky fucking blindest.
Oh, nice. Yeah, so the new episodes came out on Friday, new season, season six, and I just binge-watched it all day.
It's awesome. It's

Speaker 1 sick historical fiction. You think about joining a gang?

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Billy, when you said historical fiction, do you just mean like a fiction show that is set

Speaker 1 in the past? In the past? Yeah. But like involves historical events.
That's true.

Speaker 1 There's more historical fiction in the past episodes. Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, whoa. Right.
Yeah. It's like time traveling.
It's a good who's back. Yeah.
Alternative. But it just came out.

Speaker 1 It's really good stuff. It's good stuff.

Speaker 1 That was your Who's Back last Monday? I think so. No, no, we talked about it.
Oh, no. It was Cool Throne.
No, we talked about it. If it was, then we're going to have to take...

Speaker 1 I'm going to take Emoji away. No, we talked about it, but it finally came out.
I think that it was coming out.

Speaker 1 I think it was in the course of a conversation because we were doing like British accents and stuff. We were.
And then, yeah, off the fucking Shelby. Off of fucking Shelby.
Yeah, he's great

Speaker 1 in this one. Or Tommy.
Also, Who's Back? America, the Barstool Store. Go there right now.
We have a bunch of America merch that's coming out.

Speaker 1 This shirt you see right here, my Dilf shirt, Damn, I Love Freedom, is coming out. There's also a MILF shirt.
Dude, I love Freedom.

Speaker 1 Dude, Dude, I Love Freedom. And then there's a MILF shirt that's Man, I Love Freedom.
And it's a very.

Speaker 1 We have a house divided back in my place with Mincy because he thinks I stole it from him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He created MILF. Yeah, he's the MILF guy at Barcelona.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He thinks he created MILF. He created MILF, Man, I Love Fall, and Man, I Love Football.
Yeah, but I think he's forgotten about it because old Miss won and they're going to.

Speaker 1 What about old school MILFs? I know. Dude, turns out Ben's the MILF guy.
If you're doing any type of MILF content in the barstool office, you got to report to me.

Speaker 1 You guys have like a math school argument about who created MILF. Neither of you did, by the way.
I know.

Speaker 1 I just try to do the shirt. He hasn't spoken to me since

Speaker 1 he found out. And I pass him all the time.
I think I might put out a rival shirt that just says fucking a man.

Speaker 6 I had a shirt. I'm going to talk to Merch tomorrow.

Speaker 6 You might see this come to life this week, but it would just be like a picture of the sun on the front, and then the back would say low-key heat stroke vibes.

Speaker 6 But like in like the curse of writing, like

Speaker 6 Brianna Chicken Fries, like hungover, like

Speaker 1 low-key heat stroke vibes. You remember the summer of Lumi? Yeah.
Duh. Lumi forgets.
I stole that hat. Hell yeah.
The Lumi hat? Yeah, nice. Didn't Bubba

Speaker 1 did the design for it? Yeah, he did. Yes, yes.
I love that hat. All right.
Good who's back.

Speaker 1 Not taking an emoji away.

Speaker 1 Jake. My who's back is birthday reminders.
I have this in my phone. Today, Monday is Hank's birthday.
Happy birthday. Maybe it is.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And I have the reminder in my phone because we missed it last year. Happy birthday.
And we ordered Papadillas on his birthday. And we were supposed to do it again this year, so I'm glad I didn't.

Speaker 1 Oh, so we wrote tomorrow night. For the game.
Papadillas. For the game, we still have Papadia.
So the August 25th episode. We ordered 29 Papadillas.

Speaker 1 Apologize to me for remembering when Selection Sunday was. And happy birthday, Hank.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Hank. Thank you.
Thank you, guys. Are you

Speaker 1 ordering Papadillas? I was very worried there that you were going to say 30. Hank, you are so old.
I know. Yeah, you are.
Damn, dude. I always said that when you turn 30, I'm going to be like

Speaker 1 very, very sad. You know what we got to do? I knew you when you were a teenager.

Speaker 1 We got to get somebody from like Forbes, get Hank on the 30 under 30 list for an executive, like most high-powered media executive, Henry Lockwood. Yeah.
That'd be cool. That would be.

Speaker 1 We'll make some calls.

Speaker 1 Good reminder. I'm not going to do any calls.
Bubba's laughing at me because I'm not doing chicken. Jake, can you make a call? Jake, make a call.
Make a call for Hank.

Speaker 1 You know what's going to end up happening is someone's going to email me being like, I work for Forbes and we'd love to feature Hank and I won't reply. Like the bare minimum.

Speaker 1 I will tell you right now, I will give Forbes a quote for Hank and everything that he does. Huge.
Huge quote. Huge.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What else we got? Oh, let's get to our interviews. We got Paul Rabel, and then we have Mr.
Portnoy coming after Paul Rabel.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend, recurring guest. It is Paul Rabel.
Retired

Speaker 1 Paul Rabel. The PLL is back.

Speaker 1 We're taping this on Tuesday. We're going to run it Monday.
So

Speaker 1 0-2. The Water Dogs suck.

Speaker 1 Let's start there. Well, have you done this intentionally? Is this an intentional thing to try to screw with the Professor?

Speaker 1 Well, as you intro that, I have Jake Withers' jersey from last year to the best owners in sports, and he signed it for you all. That's very interesting.
So us. It's TO.

Speaker 1 It's T.

Speaker 1 We put on a Hall of Fame. We put on a clinic in sports ownership last year in terms of motivating the team.

Speaker 1 This year, it's almost like we're back to square one i'm told that like things are going to turn around maybe once we get our goalie back is that is that the case it's i mean i feel like it's the blueprint you started in last place last year and then you finished in first i feel like this is like uh

Speaker 1 why are you keeping our goalie away from us um you know should we just open this just call it what it is as an owner's meeting yeah okay it is it is yes and now you can be open with us because you're not a player and you don't

Speaker 1 pretend that yeah until you don't make up the rules as they go where you like rip a guy's helmet off and then you're like i'm not suspended right yeah oh so we're everything's on the table now from our text messages

Speaker 1 i just want to know like when do we get our goalie back because it seems like pligged against the water dogs right now it seems like we might need to make paul rabel clown commissioner t-shirts wait wait a second i thought deluca was the one you wanted to keep i liked deluca he showed some fight

Speaker 1 no he showed fight he showed fight i'm i'm trying to get drew snyder out of retirement why um because i met him at super bowl week we actually went out to dinner Great dude. Good dude.

Speaker 1 So I was like, I want you back on the team.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's going to come out of retirement. I'm not sure.
I don't think that's going to happen. Now, would you come out of retirement? Can we get you to be on the Water Dogs?

Speaker 1 Because that would actually be, if we lost, but I can blame you. Easier.
It would make me feel a lot better. Right.
Well,

Speaker 1 I think I can after this season. My rights are with the Cannons now.
Oh.

Speaker 1 So we can start negotiations

Speaker 1 right now. So wait, how's the the knee feeling? Because I know you got like a big surgery right after.
Yeah, yeah, it's not great. So, like, overall body,

Speaker 1 you know, like you're. Six out of 10.
Really? My knee's a six out of 10 right now. And now, is that

Speaker 1 like, are you going to try to get back to 10 out of 10? Because you're obviously retired. Right.
Well, sort of. I'm staying fit.
Doesn't hurt? That's what I was saying. Yeah, yeah, you're staying fit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it sounds like you're not closing a door. Yeah.
Well, look, guys. Oh, man, this is really going in this direction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to bring you out of retirement. We had to have known, like, we do every interview.
We could, I think we interviewed Barry Sanders and we're like, so, really retired.

Speaker 1 Barry left early. Yeah.
Barry left early. I'm 36, so I mean, I think I kind of got out at the right time.
LeBron is 37. Yep.
LeBron's 37. Yeah.
Yeah. And Nadal's 36.

Speaker 1 I'm 37. Yeah.
And you're 38. No, I'm 27.
27. 27.
Yeah. I still got my best years ahead of me.
Yeah. So it's good.
I think we all do. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 With the dogs, if I came back and played in purple, yeah, I think it'd be fun. It'd be fun to play.
It'd be good to be on the same team, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
Now,

Speaker 1 is this tampering? Are we tampering with you right now since you got your contract? Technically, but. Who's going to get us in trouble? Your brother? Right.
It would have to be him or my dad.

Speaker 1 I mean, everything's on the table right now because

Speaker 1 I'm leaving no stone unturned in how to turn around these water dogs because I'm not going to go through a start of a season like I did last year. I'll move the team.

Speaker 1 I swear to God, I'll move the team. You get your time, Billy.
No, he's shot. I'm showing the ball 97 miles an hour.
Yeah, so about that.

Speaker 1 Billy's been going around the office telling everybody that he shot the ball 100 miles an hour. Right, yes.
We all saw the video. At no point did it ever break 100 miles per hour.
Hyperbole guy.

Speaker 1 You rounded up, didn't you? Well, if I had another shot, I would have gone 100. But you did have another shot.
I went 86, 94, 97. If I was allowed a fourth shot, which I wasn't, I would have gone 103.

Speaker 1 Well, here's the real question. Was the gun juiced? I mean, you've seen, Jake, you've seen a lot of lacrosse shots.
I mean, 97. Let's just say it was all 10-year-olds in line and Billy.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 A radar is a radar. A radar is a radar fair.
Well, no, there are juiced guns. There are.
That is, I mean, that's absolutely the thing.

Speaker 1 I mean, what was the fastest you have shot before the 97? I shot 87, 8th grade. Okay.
Wow. 87 in 8th grade.
I was like this size in 8th grade.

Speaker 1 It was like that Red Jack movie with Robin Williams. That's kind of how he's aged throughout life.

Speaker 1 What was your fastest fastest shot ever, Paul? 114. Wow.
Wow. And what's the fastest shot ever in lacrosse? 121, I think.
Yes. Jesus Christ.
Who is that?

Speaker 1 A kid who doesn't play professional lacrosse. Can we get him on the water dogs? Probably.
And just have him shoot. Probably.
He's huge. Yeah.
Great.

Speaker 1 Looks like the rock.

Speaker 1 How do you save 121 miles an hour? You don't. Right.
You get hit with it. Right.
So

Speaker 1 let's get him to just stand at the top of the circle, just pass it to him. Yeah, well, how would it work if you got like

Speaker 1 a seven-footer in lacrosse? Yeah. It'd be pretty hard to get the ball out of their hands if they just held their stick all the way above their head.

Speaker 1 It's a good point. I mean, like, what if they just walked like this? They could body check you.
You can't just walk to the field. Yeah, but also this guy's like the size of the mountain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you didn't let me finish. That was the part.

Speaker 1 The mountain. We want to sign the mountain.
Can we make an offer? Yeah, you can definitely make an offer. Let's sign the mountain.
Okay, the mountain.

Speaker 1 I know that you're big AWL, big-time stoolie, the mountain. We are officially offering you a contract on the water dogs right now to be our designated shooter.
For how much? Name your price. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Name your price.

Speaker 1 We're like the live tour. Whatever gets it done for the mountain.
Yeah, whatever, whatever gets done. Whatever gets it done.

Speaker 1 Are we allowed to take on Saudi money? Is that on the table?

Speaker 1 Yeah, have you thought about that in terms of your investment strategy when you're doing like a, what is it, Series B? Yeah, whatever. What's Series C's money?

Speaker 1 You know, look, you guys are shareholders. We're business guys.
Yeah. We're business guys.
Business customers. We're well capitalized.
We're not looking for outside capital.

Speaker 1 But if we've got churnin yeah that's true yeah that's true what else do you need i've got par school money that's worse that's worse than the saudi money yeah depending on who you ask yeah um all right so i actually think the big like just a really tall dude holding the ball over his head i don't know how you stop that i don't know the thing about tall athletes is they they aren't the most agile but they cover a lot of ground with a stride right yeah yeah so they don't really change it's like dk metcalf he's a really tall line he's got everything he's fucking insane yeah he can't go 90 degrees though and he doesn't have everything because he tried to have a force on him and he didn't get it.

Speaker 1 So he does not have everything. He couldn't get it? No.
That you know of. Well, no.
He got publicly rejected. Yeah.
Publicly. He's not a man who has everything.
That time. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kind of a beta, if you ask me.

Speaker 1 I do want to compliment you, Paul, because the PLL obviously has been very successful. Your new deal with ESPN is awesome.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I watched the Water Dogs just because I basically am at the point now where I tune into every Water Dogs game just so I can get more information to hate on them.

Speaker 1 But it's like seeing the broadcast on ESPN Plus is great. Um, how, like, overall, what year is this? Three, four, four, four.

Speaker 1 How would you, how, like, do you think you're where you wanted to be? Yeah, I would say so. We are, uh, we're really excited about how it's progressed.

Speaker 1 Um, a lot of attention, a lot of viewership, a lot of sponsorship. Players are excited, more fans than we've ever had.
Uh, and I think in sports, you want to hit that like big turn.

Speaker 1 They call it like the hockey stick curve.

Speaker 1 And we were talking outside with Josh Richards and he played lacrosse. And a lot of these like TikTokers played lacrosse.
And

Speaker 1 they might be to what hip-hop was to basketball in the 90s. TikTok artists are to lacrosse.
Right kind of tracks. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was just on his wall in L.A. having a catch.
And everyone's like, this fucking guy played lacrosse. And so, I don't know, between

Speaker 1 kind of culturally trying to get people more excited about lacrosse, more sports fans into the game. This is a game that's been around for over a thousand years.
We did a documentary on it. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which is

Speaker 1 June 15th, yeah, that we're in it. Yeah.
So what, do we look good?

Speaker 1 I don't remember signing a consent form.

Speaker 1 Your executives did, I think.

Speaker 1 They sounded right. Someone has to sue you to

Speaker 1 wherever we want. Why would you're shareholders in the same as why would you sue us? Let's see how the angles.
If I look fat in it, I will sue.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 There was a moment in 2019 in our first interview where we sat down and you were asking about MLL, which is the group that then we acquired after 2020. Yeah.
Yeah, we've been through a lot.

Speaker 1 It's been quite a run, but the Stooys have been incredible supporters.

Speaker 1 Now, do you think that the model that you've chosen to use, which I like, where it's no team has a specific city, do you think that hurts?

Speaker 1 attendance a little bit because you don't have like the natural there

Speaker 1 you basically have to decide who you're going to be a fan of yeah well i think that that has got us to this position of success but where we want to go that hockey stick curve we're going to have to create that i think that geo model at some point right because the novelty it's just like what you guys do when you run these bits and stuff like you have to make a decision to continue the bits because they're hot or like turn it and do something new and it's nope there's another option is just keep running the bit and then it gets bad and then it gets good again and it gets good again because it's so bad

Speaker 1 i know what you're that's the mod i know what you're doing right now, and you're trying to feel out when we're going to flip on the water dogs. Yeah, never.
And become like the biggest supporter.

Speaker 1 But you've never been a supporter. No, no.
So you're talking, you're a heel. You're going to turn to a face of the dogs, and then we're going to take it down to.

Speaker 1 We're going to become such heels that we end up being faces. No, no.
I mean, if they keep playing like this, I'm going to move the team to Juarez. Yeah.
That's the next step for us. Yeah.
Or Qatar.

Speaker 1 Qatar. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 We'll be the richest team. We will.
Yes. Yeah.
With a great stadium with air conditioning. Yes.
We will sell our souls. So we might do the geo model.
Do we get to decide where the water dogs are?

Speaker 1 We'll have a conversation. Should we have a conversation now? You guys are in New York.

Speaker 1 Should the dogs be in New York? No, I want it to be. Tri-state.
No, no, no, no, no. Let's put the water dogs.

Speaker 1 You need to go to a game. You haven't been to a fucking game yet.
The Rikers Island.

Speaker 1 The Rikers Island Water Dogs. Ral John, Maryland.

Speaker 1 Can we have them play on an aircraft carrier that's out in the middle of the ocean? That's a great idea. You're in no man's land, international waters.
Anything goes.

Speaker 1 It becomes like the Amsterdam of the PLL. Great aesthetic.
Don't have to worry about tickets. Yeah.
Right. Honestly, I would say...
Do you worry about tickets now?

Speaker 1 With the Water Dogs, the way they're playing? We have all Water Dogs fans, I saw

Speaker 1 they were by far the most. We have the best fans.
Worst team, best fans. If you did on any carrier, then boom, it's just we become like the military team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then it's impossible to root against the Water Dogs or else you hate freedom. Right.
And so we do it out there on international waters. Anything goes.
It does.

Speaker 1 We sell a limited amount of tickets, so like 50 to 100 tickets to people from the mainland. And you can go out there on almost like an exclusive bachelor, bachelorette type vacation.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's like celebrity cruises. Do anything you want on the coast.
Anything. Yeah.
Yes. Anything.
Anything. I'm talking like score goals.
Yeah. Right.
Because they don't do that.

Speaker 1 Foursomes. DK will get out there.
DK. Windows.

Speaker 1 Like crazy shit the water dogs never thought of. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They suck.

Speaker 1 I have a question for you guys. So we have All-Star game coming up.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And speaking of changing atmospheres, we are going to offer our fans the chance to suggest rules so we can pilot because we want to continue to look at the sport not only from an operations standpoint, but also from a gameplay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So exploding ball. Much like you guys name.

Speaker 1 Exploding. Okay, so much like you guys name the water dogs.
Yeah. Name your rule.
Yeah, exploding ball. I can pass that through now.
Yeah. It's like it's already

Speaker 1 the ball becomes a grenade almost. And so if you don't score, it's like a shot clock.
If you don't score or shoot within an allotted time period, then the ball explodes in your stick. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 How do we make that?

Speaker 1 I'm an ideas guy. Yeah, you can paint a grenade, I guess.
Yeah. That would be one way to do it.

Speaker 1 I think the goal should get bigger as the game goes along. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah. So like first quarter, it's the regular size and then it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 So in the fourth quarter, you have like chaos where it's like the scoring picks up and everyone's like, holy shit, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 And people will be shooting from midfield. Midfield, right.
Comebacks, like everything. How about this one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 There are fights in lacrosse. How about the winner of the fight doesn't have to go to the sin bin?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good. So if you lose,

Speaker 1 then you get penalized. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is the shot clock right now? 52 seconds. Yeah, we got to get that smaller.
It's got to get.

Speaker 1 I just want more shots. I like that for a while.
I always think there has to be more shots in a game, more action. So, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 You can shorten the field, take the shot clock down to 30 seconds. Make the goals bigger.
Make the goals bigger. More scoring is always

Speaker 1 the answer. The three-point arc, I like that.
Or the money ball. Or just bring the...
Oh, yeah, money ball. So when you put one certain ball in play, that one is worth three points.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 How often do we put it in play? All the time. I would like to see a quarter.
So the scoring goes way up. I'd like money ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd like to see a quarter where there were two balls in action at the same time. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, we got that one from Top Gun. Dogfight Lacrosse.

Speaker 1 That would actually be cool, though. We're just trying to figure out where the...
It'd be tough for the broadcasters. Right, right, really tough.
But man, would that be cool? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 This doesn't really have as much to do with lacrosse as it does with Top Gun.

Speaker 1 But what about a sport where it's like Quidditch, but all the players, instead of flying around on brooms like in Harry Potter, they're in F-18s.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Well, you got to get your pilot license.
Yeah, I think I probably just need to talk to the military about that.

Speaker 1 Here's an idea. All right, so you got the...
Sounds like the most expensive sport of all time. Yeah.
It sounds incredible, though. I would watch.
So what about this?

Speaker 1 How many guys are on the field at the same time? 10. 10 on each team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we add an 11th on each side, and then we start the game where all 11 are on the line, and there's a ball, and one team is on offense, and one team is on defense, and the offensive team tries to put the ball into the end zone, and the defensive team tries to stop them.

Speaker 1 It's like capture the flag.

Speaker 1 Or one player can, like, throw the ball forward. Or run it, it, and you got to tackle him and stop him from getting into the end zone.
The games are on Sundays

Speaker 1 and Sunday night, and then Monday night you have a game today. This could be a big sport I'm telling you about right now.
What if you just changed it to football and just said it was lacrosse?

Speaker 1 People would watch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like tune into lacrosse. Isn't this football? No, it's lacrosse.
Are you guys going to watch the XFL? Probably not.

Speaker 1 It depends. No.
I might play in the XFL. I haven't decided yet.
So I tried out last time.

Speaker 1 I got cut, unfortunately. And I have to make the decision because I am, you know, getting into my late 20s now.

Speaker 1 Do I really want to put in the time over the summer to work out and to get in shape to try out again in the fall? Have you played lacrosse? I've never played lacrosse. No.
Should we make this happen?

Speaker 1 Can we make this happen? I don't. No, the thing is, I'll work on it.
Yeah, no, Billy. All right, Billy's acting like...
Not interested. No, no, but we just don't know what Billy just said.

Speaker 1 Billy said that he's going to train me to be a professional lacrosse player, which is just the most delusional thing he's ever said. Because, Billy,

Speaker 1 you think that you could actually play in this league. You're actually built like like a prime attack man.
Like, you and Rob Pinnell are the same build. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 Dude, lettuce is a key. Get a player.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, do I look. You've got good hair for lacrosse.
I do have the flow. I've got the lettuce.

Speaker 1 I think I'm like too short to be a lacrosse player, though. You can use it to advantage, like soccer.
Yeah. Get low.
Get underneath people. Low center of gravity, a little bit quicker.

Speaker 1 So when is you asked XFL?

Speaker 1 I'm a big like sports seasons. I respect the seasons.
Like as soon as football, I love football. Obviously, I wish it was football season right now.

Speaker 1 But once football's over in February, it's like, all right, I like, I need a break. I want to watch some college basketball.
I want to watch some NBA. So, like,

Speaker 1 when they're playing football against college basketball, I'm like, I'd rather watch college basketball. I want to watch college basketball.
When is the championship in the PL this year?

Speaker 1 September 18th. So that's the problem.
We got to move that up. We got to move it up.
We've got to move it up. That's another thing.
Like, that sports calendar is very important.

Speaker 1 Even

Speaker 1 the fact that every Memorial Day, no matter what, I know I'm going to watch the national championship of college across. See, the problem.
How would that be Labor Day?

Speaker 1 The challenge is then our season's so short. But

Speaker 1 I just think double headers. We could do doubles.
We could start a little bit earlier. A little bit earlier.
Start earlier.

Speaker 1 And Labor Day be the PLL championship. Our championship game and semifinal is kind of crushed when it comes to tickets.
We sell like 15,000 tickets to those games.

Speaker 1 But I bet you get, I guess what BitCat's getting at is like, if it's competing against college football or NFL

Speaker 1 then it's it's tough. It's tough to get people to tune in on TV.
Yeah. Yeah.
Especially if the water dogs aren't playing. Right, and you pick a day that's like I said Memorial Day.

Speaker 1 I don't I'm like I'm gonna I always tune into the or is the day before no it is Memorial Day

Speaker 1 yeah yeah so Labor Day can be there's usually no college football on Labor Day Labor Day is the PLL day yep this is the type of owners conversations that we have that we're doing live now let's do that what about this um it kind of goes against what big cat was saying about the sports seasons but I love snow football.

Speaker 1 What about snow lacrosse? Snow lacrosse is good. Have you played? I have.
I bet that really is like a different game. It's a different game, especially in college because the balls are white.

Speaker 1 So you can't really see the balls. That's tough.
Which is tough. Our balls are optic yellow, same color as tennis balls.
Yeah. As you guys know.
By the way, I didn't even mention the fact that

Speaker 1 Big Ten Brothers now. Congrats.
Yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah. Johns Hopkins in the Big Ten.
That's right. Well, how'd that work?

Speaker 1 They put a bid in for them. Johns Hopkins was was originally going to go to the ACC, and then they backed out, and now they're in the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Because people were trying to test my lacrosse knowledge. They're like, who's it? And you were all over it.
I was like, Google who's in the Big Ten lacrosse.

Speaker 1 I mean, your engagement was through the roof this weekend. Yeah, I was.
Yeah, you were all over the place. I get very upset about the Water Dogs.
They stink. I would too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, the second game, can I say this real quick? Because obviously, this is, I'm talking about week one.

Speaker 1 The second game, who played in that game? Chrome, Whipsnakes, maybe? No. No, the second game was Atlas Redwoods.
Fuck both those teams. Don't like them.

Speaker 1 No, the over-under was 23.5, and they had 12 goals in the first quarter, and they scored two goals in the second and three goals in the third. I wanted to throw my phone through the TV.

Speaker 1 What's your CLP this week?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I should probably start doing a lacrosse one.
Water don't. Give it done ones? No, no, no.
I think everything's still like a point and a half. Let me see.
Yeah, but that was that.

Speaker 1 That was a travesty of an over. And we got halfway there in the first quarter, and they just stopped scoring.
That's the excitement of it, though. No, that's not the excitement.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. You need to make sure that overs hit.
The over hits all the time. I know I need the over hit all the time.

Speaker 1 Problem is, since we pay the guys more and they're on national television, the coaches and the GMs are so into this thing that the intensity is ratcheted up and defenses are fucking so tough. So yeah.

Speaker 1 What about a goal?

Speaker 1 So it's locked down. It's kind of like NFL a little bit.
And as the season goes, you'll see more scoring, but early on, it's just defense versus defense. What about a goal bounty?

Speaker 1 What if for every goal scored, everybody on the team splits like

Speaker 1 a a set amount of money that gets put out? So like every goal, a thousand bucks you split between everyone that's on the field at that time. So you think they're holding back on scoring?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like you crease the wheels a little bit.

Speaker 1 A goal bounty, and then you could follow along and there'd be a metric on the screen that shows how much money the players have made. So there's a purse for each game.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's our all-star

Speaker 1 idea. Yeah, just put a bunch of money in a giant pot.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And be kind of like what they're competing for. Yeah.
Maybe actually just put a ladder with a suitcase full of money at midfield and

Speaker 1 climb it. Have it just be a literal ladder match during the PLA.
What do you think about instead of a face-off, like the old, speaking of XFL, the old ball in the middle, both sides just rough?

Speaker 1 It was injured. It was a good idea.
Everyone gets injured. Except I think on the very first one they did in the XFL, somebody tore their AC.
Yeah, we can't.

Speaker 1 That was not a great idea. We can't get injured.
We can't. No.
Like, as much as I hate the water dogs, I don't root for injuries. Let's pivot real quick to something a little bit more positive.

Speaker 1 I think there's an announcement that you want to make in terms of our darling Jake. Oh, yeah.
Our darling Jake is stepping back into the booth to announce a game this year.

Speaker 1 Why were you hesitant around sharing which game you're calling? I don't know if I'm allowed to say that yet. I could be.
Because of ESPN? Yeah, I don't know if they want me to yet.

Speaker 1 I just said it's coming up. Jake's a big rules guy, but

Speaker 1 I think you can see it. I can tell I offered him a drink on the sideline at the game and he didn't accept.
Because if you said it, it would be a damn damage. You didn't have a water with you.

Speaker 1 He has to have a water every time he has a drink. But yeah, Paul, if you want to

Speaker 1 say what game it is. He will be calling the games in Baltimore, Maryland.
Whoa. Let's go.
So when is that? That's going to be when this is airing next Saturday, June 25th. Oh, hell yeah.
Huge. So,

Speaker 1 good attendance in Baltimore. We usually sell that one out.
Are you going to be doing the whole weekend? No, just the doubleheader Saturday. Saturday.
Is Water Dogs part of that? No. Damn.

Speaker 1 I know he's pissed about it. That's actually good, though, because I would have...
I've had the opportunity. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, if you said anything nice about the Water Dogs, I would have been mad at you. Also, it's good that you stay on that.
I'm not sure they're even Water Dogs, guys. Well, I'm Water Dogs.

Speaker 1 if you guys are in Archer shorts. Oh, no, Billy's Redwoods.
I'm a Redwoods shirt.

Speaker 1 You're in Archer shorts on, didn't you? Paul, you got RJ's guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's RJ? Paul, you got to give me tons of gear. Billy, he's like low-key.
He's upset that he does not own the Water Dogs with us because he, in his head, is like, I like La Crosse.

Speaker 1 That was early days. I didn't own them.
It was just a shot.

Speaker 1 So he's even said it to me, like, yo, low-key, can I have your ownership in the Water Dogs? I'm like, no. No.
So he's now, he's kind of acting out being an Archers fan. He's going through a phase.

Speaker 1 Redwoods. I mean, the league's going to be worth over a billion dollars.
I know. Yeah.
I know. Yeah.
It's going to be sick. It's going to be huge.

Speaker 1 We're going to, we're going to be especially when we're in Qatar. Yeah.
Yeah. We're literally going to be on, I'm going to buy a purple yacht on boats in the Pacific.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to invest in handball or something. Yeah.
Right. Like paddle tennis.
Now, would you say that Jake is a better lacrosse player than Billy is?

Speaker 1 Because I don't know if you saw Jake's shot, but he fired one past Billy, top cheddar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We should have gotten you on that juice gun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 See what you would have gotten. How about on Rough and Rowdy, you fight someone in the POL? I'm retired.
Just want to know. Yeah.
Go out undefeated.

Speaker 1 What if we put you on a roster if you beat a POL player up? Like Connor Farrell, you're on the chrome.

Speaker 1 You take on Connor Farrell, you beat him, you're on chrome.

Speaker 1 Dude, he's a tank. He's a tank.
So is Jose Conseco. I know.
But this guy actually might fight back.

Speaker 1 How bad do you want this job, though, Billy? What job? Being a professional. You could be a professional athlete.
I'm already a professional athlete. Yes, you're a professional boxer.
What about?

Speaker 1 That's so cool. Actually,

Speaker 1 that would be hype, but I think it would be better to squash league beefs in the ring. Okay.
I think that because that would be great cross-promotion. True.

Speaker 1 So another thing about Billy, I don't know if you saw the video of the shot that he was trying to show off and shoot it as hard as he could past Jake, I believe, was in the net. No, it was Duke.

Speaker 1 It was Duke's in the net. And he cocked back, and he really did a lot of wrist-flicking and, you know, the the whole nine-yards showing off a little bit.
What happened?

Speaker 1 And then the ball just fell out of his

Speaker 1 cradle. No, my stick had no hold.
Is that what? Yeah. But his fault was that who strung your stick? Some guy.
I think it was you. I think you strung your stick.
What does that feel like?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's definitely happened to you once. Never.
Never. It happens.
Never. It's never happened.
Never.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I pick up the stick first time in six years, just like try to crank one.
Was that your first shoe?

Speaker 1 One of them. Got it.
Were you talking to Belichick the other day? Yeah. How'd that go? Pretty good.
He's a big fan of the sport, right? He loves the PLL. Does he actually follow and watch the games?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he came to our opener.

Speaker 1 He's deep into training camp right now, but he's obsessed with lacrosse. He was recognized at the Tour Ton ceremony, which is essentially the Heisman for College La Crosse.

Speaker 1 He was recognized as a Spirit Award winner, which is basically like legacy award.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he had a the event started at 6. He had his private jet leaving one Patriot place at 3.30.

Speaker 1 And then there was a ton of traffic. So they held the event to start for him to come.
He got there. He did some interviews.
And the people who were running the event were like,

Speaker 1 you know, is a coach going to give some acceptance remarks? And I was like, yeah, I'm sure he will. They're like, do we need, he didn't send a speech in, and they have teleprompters.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, he'll be fine. He'll probably say a few words.
The man talked for like 15 minutes. That's awesome.
Because he is obsessed with LaCross.

Speaker 1 And I think that that's like Belichick, anyone who's to like said a story about him if you can get him talking about something he's really interested in and it's not like the routine media like how how the guys play today like i mean he was talking about riding and clearing and face-offs and stick work against the wall and did you win the heisman i did not how close were you i came in second twice

Speaker 1 i know i'm still pissed have you ever won the the spirit award i have not wait was it bullshit do you think no do you think you should have won i do yeah i think i should have won what was the like was there politicking involved what was the reason why you didn't win?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 we can roll out conspiracy around that. Yeah.
I know that I felt like I was a test dummy.

Speaker 1 I won the championship my junior year, lost the Toraton, lost the championship my senior year, lost the Toraton.

Speaker 1 Fuck it. Went the other way both times.
Right. Because like the Heisman, usually like the best player on the winter.
Yeah, it doesn't win the title, yeah. So who won instead of you?

Speaker 1 Matt Donowski, my junior year, and then Mike Lavelle, my senior year.

Speaker 1 So have you ever talked to Belichick about when he's done coaching the Patriots, if you would ever want to become a coach in the PLL? Yes. You think he's interested? Yes.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 Now that would be interesting

Speaker 1 for the Water Dogs. I want him.
Maybe that's what you. That's our money ball.
We just get the greatest sports coach. Mortgage everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's not a part of.

Speaker 1 Actually, you don't have to mortgage anything. You just go start negotiating with him.
Yeah. Paul.
So here's what we're going to do. Andy Copeland's not going to feel great about it.

Speaker 1 I think he'd understand.

Speaker 1 I think he'd understand if it was Belichick.

Speaker 1 Do you think that, like, you know, just given his history with the sport and also, you know, his career being, you know, a great head coach in a different sport, how long do you think it would take him to seamlessly transition into being a professional lacrosse coach?

Speaker 1 Do you think it could be done? I feel like he would win in the first three seasons of coaching, if not sooner.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't think he really coaches football. He just coaches.
He coaches human beings. He's so good at that.
Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, the number of draft picks that come out of nowhere, that turn into stars. And I mean, even lacrosse players, he has a knack for bringing them over into the NFL.

Speaker 1 I just think he understands the nuance of sports and blueprint of winning better than anyone. Yeah, and he also would put like smart people around him.
Smart people around him.

Speaker 1 He commands insane amount of respect. Yep.
I mean, I think I told you guys this, but

Speaker 1 when I first met him, he came to a Hopkins practice. He stepped into the locker room and was motherfucking us up and down around like our stick work and this six-on-six possession.

Speaker 1 He's got photographic memory. So he then just like, he just commands a room.
And all of a sudden you listen to Bill Belichick coach you on lacrosse and you're bought in. Right.
Right. I want him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I want him.
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Last question, real, real question.

Speaker 1 Give us the five years. Where are we at in five years? I know you've thought about it.
You've done a dream board with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does it look like? What's like the big benchmark that we should be looking at? So the sport's going to be getting ready for the Olympics in 28, in five years. Okay, that'll be huge.

Speaker 1 We're finishing a pitch in July. You guys should come to it.
In. Where is it? Birmingham, Alabama.
Out. Okay.
No, I love it. I'm catching a USFL game.
Okay.

Speaker 1 The PLL will be a top six

Speaker 1 sport in North America.

Speaker 1 It's competitive now. I used to say, we always talk about the big four, but it'll be a top six.
So you say top six, that means number six. Someone's got to go.

Speaker 1 Who's going? Who's five? Soccer? It could be. I mean, we're in the summer, so

Speaker 1 you know, soccer is a force globally, and

Speaker 1 MLS, I think, is the second most important league to get in right now in the world. And that's outside the box because the Premier League's number one, but

Speaker 1 being a part of American sports is just where all the commercial rights are. What's lacrosse right now? Penalty minute.
No, no, no, I'm saying in the

Speaker 1 sports.

Speaker 1 We're probably seven or eight. Seven or eight.
Yeah. I'm trying to think of what else would be like, obviously, soccer.
Rugby. Well, football, basketball, baseball,

Speaker 1 hockey. Then you have like golf, UFC,

Speaker 1 tennis, rugby.

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep saying rugby until you acknowledge it. We're ahead of rugby.
MLRA rating's pretty good this year. Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 1 F1. Starting to make a run.
Yeah. I mean, everyone wants live sports because it's the last-standing firewall for advertising dollars.
So we'll be in a good spot either way.

Speaker 1 We're going to be in a good spot. Yeah.
So the business is growing. I think in five years we'll be in markets for sure.

Speaker 1 So we have to figure out where the water dog's going to be.

Speaker 1 We'll still, I think we'll renew and we'll be with a big network partner like ESPN.

Speaker 1 We need to turn our athletes into celebrities. I think that's what makes the NBA so exciting.
It's like literally these guys are A-listers playing on the floor every other night.

Speaker 1 It's like if the Kardashians played hoop. Right.
Right. You need to get guys more on social media and stuff.
Interacting.

Speaker 1 I mean, what do you think makes a star? I mean,

Speaker 1 basketball is tough because it's just like the league, obviously, where it's gone.

Speaker 1 It didn't happen overnight. It's happened a long, long time.
You know what I mean? Magic Bird, Jordan, like all these things. LeBron, Kobe, you know, the star stars that rise everyone else up with it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just think that I think lacrosse players do need to do a better job of being accessible, being online,

Speaker 1 tweeting each other, like this league type of shit, which is kind of annoying, but also definitely sells.

Speaker 1 It's a similar culture in lacrosse as it is in baseball and hockey, where it's like kind of mum is the word. Yeah, don't say anything.
Just put on your helmet and play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, the water dogs aren't active on social. Maybe that's the issue.

Speaker 1 That could be it. You could do, in in the NBA, they always have the videos of the guys walking into the locker room beforehand where they're wearing ridiculous outfits.

Speaker 1 Just force people to wear stupid clothes. I'd be like, oh man, I can't believe this guy's wearing this.
We have GQ Sports that wants to feature our pregame fits this year. Nice.

Speaker 1 We've got to do like big documentary films like we're doing. Yep.

Speaker 1 Behind the scenes, get a follow-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's our drive to survive? Our hard knocks.
Hard knocks. Massively distributed on like HBO or Netflix or E-Plus.
Yeah, the two other big things, gambling obviously is big.

Speaker 1 So making people, you know, I think it's pretty straightforward what you're gambling on with PLL. It's not like a confusing thing, game to gamble on.
And then an awesome video game. Video games, huge.

Speaker 1 Like, if you could get a video game that is very fun to play and

Speaker 1 like just the gameplay is great,

Speaker 1 that is such a key to opening up so many doors. Should it be like Madden is to football or NBA Jam was to hoops?

Speaker 1 See, that's a tricky question. You could almost make it a game in madden where you could do a side quest as bill belich

Speaker 1 where you now coach a lacrosse team and then you play the lacrosse game inside of madden yeah that would be huge but i think i i i feel like nba jam lacrosse would be fun yeah but a video game is we could do the grenade balls yeah yeah yeah exactly you could have a lot of fun with that type of stuff no you just have a bunch of kids who like you think about it when you were a kid and you love the sport you played the video game that's how i learned about tony hawk right right and how i learned about chelsea football club is through fifa right yep right otherwise i had no interest in all those things yeah so okay so it's a video game our team's expansion in into markets gambling fighting fighting yeah uh documentaries docuseries some kind of big controversy huge controversy athletes become celebrities more beer tents more beer tents want more beer at games there's only two yeah he i i looked under your chair when you left there was like at least a dozen beers that was also dukes that was also dukes

Speaker 1 taking emotion I was excited about that. Oh, 50-50 raffle at games.
Yeah. Yeah.
We do that. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's it get to?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe 10,000.
We need to juice the pot. Juice the pot.
Yeah. Can we get you guys to games? No.
Why not? Depends. If I ask you how far.
Remember last year you said anything you want.

Speaker 1 It depends on the office. Yeah, and then you said Long Island.
I said no. Is it

Speaker 1 what if it in the office? Yeah. Long Island is a game coming up.
Or we could do Baltimore when Jake's calling it. No.
I don't get a watchman.

Speaker 1 What if we figure out a a way to fly you private?

Speaker 1 Now we're in Vegas. Does it land on the field? We could, if it's a helicopter.
Okay. Vegas,

Speaker 1 you had helicopter you into Long Island. Yeah, when's Long Island? Two weeks after Tribeca.
So you're going to come to Tribeca. It's Wednesday the 15th at 8 o'clock.
I know you have kids at home.

Speaker 1 How about this? I'm not saying that as a mean thing. I think that's actually nice of me to say it to your face instead of being like, I think it's actually bad to be like, oh, I'll be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, save me a seat. It's like, no, I'm out.
Yeah, I might go. It's no offense.
I might go. Save me a seat.
Some helicopter. I want to watch the documentary.

Speaker 1 What's going to be on after? We're figuring that out now. Beautiful.

Speaker 1 I will watch it. If I guarantee that.
Well, you're in it. You're actually in the credits.
You guys roll credits. Love it.
If there was. It's a fantastic part.

Speaker 1 You set the scene for the whole fucking film. I love it.
I'm going to watch it. I'm very excited for it.
It took us a while to get the release, though. Yeah.
Because your legal team.

Speaker 1 I wish I hadn't given it to you. Right.

Speaker 1 I wish I hadn't given you those shares. I wish we had held out.

Speaker 1 I would like to have them back. Real talk.
If you can get us in a room with Belichick at one of these games, then I would go. If we could interview Bill Belichick, let's do all-star.

Speaker 1 Let's do it for All-Star. Would we want to do that? If we could interview him.
I'll take him on vacation, July. Wow.
I can't. We're just going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 I only take one vacation

Speaker 1 season, getting BB. So

Speaker 1 we don't take vacations. We don't take vacations.
And that family would kill me if I'm the one vacation. July is like the only month that we don't have non-space.
You're taking the whole month.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll be in and out of the office. Where are you going? I'm just going out out east.
That's what you're going to say when you're in the college. That's like when you're saying the Hamptons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like when you say where'd you go to college and you say right outside Boston.

Speaker 1 Eastern Long Island. Okay, it's Harvard.
I get it. Eastern Long Island.
All right, so don't make that ask yet. Well, yeah, it's because that's beach month for us.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be tough to probably wait for each other for sure. Yeah.
All-stars at Chillette. You want an interview with...
Bill Belichick. And then we'll go to any game you want.

Speaker 1 That I will agree to. That's going to be super hard.
It's gotten more difficult to get him on on the media because of those text messages and all that shit. What's harder?

Speaker 1 Getting Bill Belichick on pardon my take or getting pardon my take to a PLL game? Pretty much the same.

Speaker 1 That's an unstoppable force for some movable objects. Right.
I guess you're right. I mean, you could frame it like

Speaker 1 these guys are ownership. We'll make a team.
Yeah. And what if we could talk to him about La Crosse? We'd also ask him about football, but La Crosse would be a talking point.
All right. So, private.

Speaker 1 No, we don't even have a private. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's off the table.
Just straight up Belichick for us. Okay.
Belichick on PMT, PMT at PLL. Done.

Speaker 1 Easy as could be.

Speaker 1 That literally is like the easiest trade we've ever made. And we will go anywhere to get Belichick.
Yeah. Who wins in that deal? I think everyone.
Everybody wins. That's a win-win.

Speaker 1 That's everyone wins. I think everyone's winning.
That's a true win-win. That's a dream to get Belichick on PMT.
Absolutely. Yeah.
God, he would be so good. It would be incredible.

Speaker 1 It would be incredible. And also, if we could have Steve in the background just making weird stuff.
He would be so good, too.

Speaker 1 He would be fantastic. He played lacrosse at Rutgers.
Yeah. All right.
So we're, this is good. So it makes sense.

Speaker 1 That's going to be my

Speaker 1 angle. A lot of synergy.
You guys are going to talk PLL. Yep.
If he comes on the show, no NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll tell you whatever you want to hear, right? That's fine. Yeah, definitely.
You can say that. No football questions.
Cool. Great.
At all. Great.
All right. Well, Paul Rabel, this is good.

Speaker 1 This is productive. Always great to see you.
Congratulations on everything. I sincerely mean that.
The SPN deal is awesome. The documentary is awesome.
I'm going to keep watching the PLL.

Speaker 1 This is one of those things where you've tricked me

Speaker 1 into just watching lacrosse on the weekends. Yeah.
No, I do watch. You know, I watch because I comment on things that you have to watch.

Speaker 1 I mean, you own shares in a company that's going to be north of a billion dollars soon. Yeah, that purple yacht's going to be sick.
We're going to just be honking the horn while Billy's in his kayak.

Speaker 1 Is that where you're going to name your yacht? Waterdog? Yeah, Water Dog. It's not bad.
Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 All right, thanks. That's why we're doing it.
Wait, wait, when are we allowed to cash out our shares? That's a very important question. So, usually when there's a liquid event.

Speaker 1 So, if we raise more money and as part of that, investors can take secondary if we go public or if we get bought.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Okay.
Okay. You'll let us know.
I'll let you know. Yeah.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll do another podcast when that happens, and then we'll talk about what we're going to do with our money. Yeah, right in Billy's face.
Guess what?

Speaker 1 If you're listening to the show right now, we're going to buy homes out east. If

Speaker 1 you want to know how to get us to stop doing this podcast, the best way is to watch the PLL drive the ratings up, go out to a game, increase our net worth.

Speaker 1 That way we can sell our shares, and then you'll never hear from us again. Okay,

Speaker 1 here's my request. If we get BB on PMT, can we do that episode live from the sideline of a PLL game?

Speaker 1 We won't broadcast it live, but we will record it live. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll stand on the sideline with him. That's kind of cool, too.
Yeah. Okay, done.
Yeah. Yeah, perfect.
Love it. Thank you, Paul.

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Speaker 1 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 It's been way too long, but we figured now is a good time to have our lawyer.

Speaker 1 What other job titles do you hold? A bunch of job titles, but our lawyer, mostly our lawyer. It is Mr.
Portnoy. He is back with us.
Do you want to start with the three words or?

Speaker 5 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Was that bad that I started with that question? You know it.

Speaker 5 Probably.

Speaker 5 Patriots? Yep.

Speaker 5 Shout out. Yep.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God. Don't tell me.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've got it. It's one of your best words.

Speaker 1 I give up. It's an app on your phone.
You can do it. You can do it.
We've turned

Speaker 1 this word into like a remix of our outro song on the show. You're famous for this word.
Yeah, it's an app on your phone.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Give me another hint, please.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 cars. Cars, yeah.

Speaker 5 Patriots, Chowder.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 It's an app on your phone that you use to get a car.

Speaker 1 Uber. Yeah, there we go.
There he is.

Speaker 1 He's back. Thank you.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 I needed some help.

Speaker 1 No, that's fine. So,

Speaker 1 I mean, first of all, how are you? What's going on? What's new in Mr. Portnoy's life?

Speaker 5 life? Yeah, before we start, I got to tell you something, Big Cat. Okay.
Do you know what the show on now is called Barry? Do you ever watch that?

Speaker 1 The best. I love it.

Speaker 5 Did you notice what the Doofus cop, his name was?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Wait. Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Was it? Wait, I maybe have not got it. Is it only season three? I'm three episodes in.

Speaker 5 This is, I don't remember which episode number it was, but there's a cop who's a doofus.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 he's investigating the death of that

Speaker 5 other cop.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 5 And he's kind of in charge of the investigation. And on the last episode, that first time I noticed it, they said his nickname was Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Damn. That's tough to be a doofus cop.
Although, you know what? That show's so good. I'm honored because I love, love, love that show.
I think it's very, very good.

Speaker 5 I do find it,

Speaker 5 I might have missed some. I find it a little difficult to follow.
I think it's very, it's a dark comedy for sure.

Speaker 1 It is. And it's, I agree with you.
It's one of those shows. I was actually complaining about it.

Speaker 1 Maybe that this is a sign that, you know, I'm entering the next phase of my life where the third season came out and I was like, I don't have any clue where I'm at in this storyline.

Speaker 1 Like, I lost all knowledge of the show. So I agree with you on that.

Speaker 5 I thought a couple of episodes where the

Speaker 5 guy that wants to be the actor, that's the Dave, whatever it is. Bill Hater, yeah.

Speaker 5 That he was having trouble getting connected to his phone. I thought that was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Yes, I know exactly. No spoilers, but yes, that was a very, very funny show.

Speaker 5 He has to go

Speaker 5 outside the automobile to try to connect

Speaker 5 with the phone so he can go kill somebody.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Very good show.

Speaker 5 That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 So what else, besides watching barry what else you got going on uh

Speaker 5 i have some i i know you want a complaint for me uh i can give you one yes uh

Speaker 5 starts with uh

Speaker 5 the boston globe i know you folks don't read or look at the boston globe i i do although i'm not really that happy with it. There are other publications that I think at this point are better.
Okay.

Speaker 5 But I was looking at the Globe the other day and all of a sudden, and by the way, I have, I have it on my app and you know, I buy it and whatnot.

Speaker 5 So all of a sudden, when I was looking at it, I saw it would cut in and it was telling me that I can subscribe to the globe for X amount of dollars.

Speaker 5 Of course, the problem with that is I already do subscribe to the globe and I've seen it before when that comes on that that cut that it cuts in telling me I can subscribe to the globe.

Speaker 5 The problem is I already do, right?

Speaker 5 But that's a signal that they don't have that registered somehow with them at that point. Somehow, they don't have me all of a sudden as a subscriber.

Speaker 5 And of course, that leads me down to the rabbit hole of trying to find out why I'm not a subscriber listed with them.

Speaker 5 And come to find out

Speaker 5 they had

Speaker 5 the email. My one of them, I only have a couple of emails.

Speaker 5 You people probably have about 10 burner counts but i only have i have two all right one i use all the time the other one i hardly ever use so i thought for some deranged minute that maybe they're telling me that they have sent me a notice of my status and for one deranged minute i think well maybe i shouldn't use this other email which is not the general one i use and i'll get rid of that and just go to the one I always use and change it.

Speaker 5 And obviously,

Speaker 5 that sent me down a rabbit hole of maybe an hour and a half trying to get back to where I was. I'm not trying to get ahead.

Speaker 5 I'm just trying to get back to where I was, change my email instead of the one, to the one I always use, to this other one that they have that I never use.

Speaker 5 And it was just a disaster. It was just a total disaster.
And I'm not exaggerating when I tell you, I was on the phone finally speaking to someone.

Speaker 5 Then we started to talk about why am I paying X amount of dollars when five minutes after I spoke to somebody, the first thing they said to me, oh, by the way, we can reduce that rate.

Speaker 5 It was originally going to be $16, I think, for every four weeks. We got a better offer for you, $4.

Speaker 5 When somebody drops from $16 to four after you say hello. What does that tell you about what you're being charged to start with?

Speaker 5 It's I've been a customer forever and they're charging me the highest rate they have. Yeah.
So that whole thing deteriorated and that is my complaint.

Speaker 5 And I think I finally thought, I shouldn't even say this, I think I've straightened it out.

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 5 But as we're speaking right now, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little tip to salespeople out there. Don't give away everything right up front because it actually

Speaker 1 makes the customer feel worse about what they're purchasing because then they feel like they were a sucker for even talking to you.

Speaker 5 As usual, you're on point, my friend. Thank you.

Speaker 5 That is, and it happens so fast. After I said hello, basically he said, you want to cheap a break?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 5 I didn't even get to say who I was.

Speaker 1 If you want to keep a rate, take it, take it.

Speaker 5 And that's what happened.

Speaker 1 I'm just happy because I thought when you initially started that complaint, I thought it was going to be a discussion about the journalism in America and the state of journalism in America.

Speaker 1 No, it's just simply a login problem.

Speaker 5 Well, that I could discuss with the state of journalism in America.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what,

Speaker 5 I'll tell you one thing that I have a general complaint. I cannot,

Speaker 5 I can't turn on the TV anymore. I say on CNN or one of these other channels, regardless of their political leans.
One way that I can't

Speaker 5 because the ads drive me bananas.

Speaker 1 Wait, not the news. Wait,

Speaker 1 not the news.

Speaker 1 I fucking hate this, my pillow guy.

Speaker 1 What is that again? It's not the news. Nothing to do with the news.

Speaker 5 No, nothing to do. I'm sick of William Chapner, Joe Damis,

Speaker 5 Chris Berman, Car Shields, Ernie Hudson, Jimmy J.J. Walker, trying to sell me stuff.

Speaker 5 Should I get another social, if they can give me a better

Speaker 5 deal on my Social Security?

Speaker 5 What about my car? What about Car Shields? You better get a car because you need car shields.

Speaker 5 Something's going to go wrong with your car if you don't buy car shields today. Thank you, Joe Namath.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Chris Berman. You better do this.
All these has-beans, all of them have one thing in common. I hate to say it about Joe Willie Namath, but you, and you, the folks know this.

Speaker 5 If you're going to ounce the common sense, you don't go in these ads. for these crazy companies unless you need the dough.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 Right. And when you're talking about somebody like,

Speaker 5 should Joe Namos need money?

Speaker 5 I hope not.

Speaker 1 He might.

Speaker 1 He might. The guy gets around town.
Yeah, he might.

Speaker 5 What about you? What about William Shapler? He goes to the moon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That one's weird.
And Chris Bourbon, I would say, probably doesn't need the money. He just, you know.
He likes to be on TV. Yeah, he's on TV.

Speaker 1 This is so great, though. I love, like, we need more of this in America right now where everyone's divided.
It's we can get behind the news sucks because of the commercials, not the news.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm not even, I'm telling you, and not that they're worried about somebody like me, but I just can't watch it anymore. I don't even get that.
I don't even get to

Speaker 5 the content because I can't watch it. I cannot watch it.

Speaker 1 Now, let me ask you a question. Okay, let me ask you a question, though.
Would that be different if your

Speaker 1 the guy that basically got you out of bed every day for four years was still in office? Because I feel like you'd still be watching because you were on Trump's ass like white on rice.

Speaker 5 You know, something I'm going to answer one thing I'm going to say to you right now. I expect Trump to be doing one of these commercials sooner rather than later, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 5 You know, that was a different time for me. That was the one time in my life, I suppose, I was so enraptured by what was going on with my hate.

Speaker 5 That,

Speaker 5 but that time has gone by. I mean, he's still hanging around.

Speaker 5 And I guess if he really got involved with getting the nomination, et cetera, I would be

Speaker 5 involved as I was before.

Speaker 1 You would overlook the commercials. Yeah, you'd be back in.
You're like, okay, you know what? I'll deal with Joe Theisman talking to me about his prostate. I want to see what's going on with Trump.

Speaker 5 Right. And right now, as we're speaking right now,

Speaker 5 that doesn't exist. There's nothing pulling me in like the Trumpster did.

Speaker 5 So the commercials become a, you know, what's the right word, a fungible situation.

Speaker 1 We need to get you on Truth Social. We'll sign you up for Trump's social media app so that you can reply to him directly.
Now you did.

Speaker 5 Oh, by the way, you know, those commercials, and of course, I don't watch Fox, the little that I do once in a while, they're the same on Fox. There's no difference.

Speaker 5 The commercials, the commercials are the same, and the commercials live and they're not going to die, all right, for these products that nobody wants or needs. But you know something?

Speaker 5 What I keep telling myself as I get more upset about it, these must work, these commercials. Somebody's buying this shit.
Yeah. Somebody is.
They track this. You know that better than anybody.

Speaker 5 This stuff is all tracked, right? Yeah. They know what's working.

Speaker 1 Yes. It's working on you because I bet you if you had to go buy a car shield, you'd be like,

Speaker 1 didn't joe namath tell me where to get that you it'd probably work

Speaker 5 you know something

Speaker 5 i can't picture myself buying any of those i can't you know why because i i know what you just said and maybe it's just the way i am by definition when i see them up there those products are a fraud

Speaker 5 yeah i mean they wouldn't what i'm saying to you is they wouldn't be advertising there if they weren't a fraud and i guarantee because believe i know you'll find this hard to believe, but I have on occasion checked with the FTC site and other things to see various of these companies have all sorts of consumer complaints against them.

Speaker 5 And what a shock.

Speaker 1 Yoit, so you're just

Speaker 5 a million complaints against them.

Speaker 1 Are you just casually like on a Tuesday afternoon, just going on to the Better Business Bureau website and just checking out, like, hey, how are these companies doing?

Speaker 5 I'm not going to answer that.

Speaker 5 That's a leading leading question. I'm not going to answer that question.
So, you decide for yourself. You know me well enough.
You decide for yourself.

Speaker 1 You pick up the answers. What's one thing that you've been really enjoying in your life? Is there a product or a service that you've thought to yourself, like, hey,

Speaker 1 this is really hitting all the right notes for me?

Speaker 5 You mean that I didn't see advertised here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, just like, what are you really into right now?

Speaker 5 You know, something I think those type of products that I'm getting,

Speaker 5 I'm not seeing up like this.

Speaker 5 I really don't. I think,

Speaker 5 I guess the best way for me to answer that is that the desire for me to get the product starts with me first.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I need something. Maybe I need, for instance, I need an improvement for something on my grill.
I just off the top of my head. I know there's a pan that I bought.
Okay.

Speaker 5 But the need started with me. I saw that I needed it.
Then I went online to Amazon and checked out what was available. All right.

Speaker 5 So that's a little different than somebody yelling at me that I need cash yields or that

Speaker 5 I better, what's my, what's my,

Speaker 5 I better get an update on my social security payments because what I have isn't good enough. You know what I mean? The impetus is starting.
I've determined that in my life, I need a product,

Speaker 5 this particular product, and then I go hunt for it like anybody else on Amazon. But it starts with me.

Speaker 5 I can't think of anything to tell you the truth on the top of my head that I saw one of these for blunget-that's a Jewish word

Speaker 5 ads on one of these for blungit sites that lit that interest in me. I can't think it obviously works for other people, it just doesn't work for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how have you considered getting a reverse mortgage?

Speaker 5 A reverse, I'm not in that market anymore, but there was a time when I certainly years ago looked at that. And I'll tell you something, you know what?

Speaker 5 See, I'm different.

Speaker 5 When I started, and I did at one point, we're talking about 10 years ago when they started with the reverse mortgages.

Speaker 5 Their ads, they started with their ads. And I think the first guy that started with it is now deceased with the ads.

Speaker 5 The ads started with the sentence, this is not a scam.

Speaker 5 I mean, that was the furthest thing from my mind until he put it in my little keppie that this might be a scam. See, I'm different.
The way I'm a wired difference.

Speaker 5 You know what I mean? If somebody says in their ad, by the way, this is not a scam. And the guy, the first guy that did it was a well-known congressman who has since deceased.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't even think about whether it was a scam until he said it.

Speaker 1 Now, we've talked to you about this before, this

Speaker 1 legal loophole. But if he he had said this is a scam,

Speaker 1 he can legally get away with it, right? Like, I think we actually presented that idea to you that if we basically

Speaker 1 started an investment fund and we're like, hey, listen, this is a Ponzi scheme. And then if people invest, how can we be in trouble? We told you right from the start.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but isn't the other side of the coin? Who is going to buy a product? that starts with the sentence, this is a scam?

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of people because there's a lot of people who are like, maybe they're just joking.

Speaker 5 You know, that

Speaker 5 reminds me of when we started talking, the three of us, for a long time, you started saying this is parody.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I thought you were using the word parody as saying it's all equal. You know, like this is everything's.
And I didn't realize till about the fourth time I was on that you were talking about comedy.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, you can do parody law.
You can literally take somebody's money from them if you're making a joke out of it.

Speaker 5 Well, I don't know. Like I say, I'm wired a little different.
If you started an ad with me and said, by the way, this is not a scam, a scam. All right.

Speaker 5 That's going to, I'm going to start to say, well, I better check this. We're talking about, say, the reverse mortgage is a good example.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And that's, that's how there's an example of a company that started their advertising with, by the way, this is legit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, so, so I'm wired that way. Why are they saying that's legit? It never occurred to me that's not, but now I'm going to start to investigate it.
So as

Speaker 5 your average consumer, obviously, right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're built. You're literally built.
You got to wake up a little early in the day to

Speaker 1 pull one over on you. Now, is there, from a legal standpoint, has there ever been any decision that's written or any like casework around the idea of sarcasm in an ad? Can you be sarcastic?

Speaker 1 So could you say like, oh,

Speaker 5 I think there have been many, I think that there have been many cases that have dealt with whether or not what was being said was

Speaker 5 obviously, quote unquote, parody. Oh, I think there's a lot of cases about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if you were to be like, oh, this is definitely not a scam.

Speaker 5 So you're saying. Well, now, see.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm totally not going to take your money. No, me? No, I would never do that.

Speaker 5 You know, when you're talking about things like this, You really got to pre,

Speaker 5 you're just throwing things out there right now. You got to plug in something that is a real fact patent.
And I'm telling you that there are many fact patents.

Speaker 5 Can't think of any off the top of my head, but you can find many of them that talk about a fact patent that the court came down and said that nobody would have taken what was being said here as being other than parody.

Speaker 5 Parody, not

Speaker 5 equal, parody, i.e., comedy, is allowed. Comedy is allowed.
If it's obvious, then it's comedy. It's got to be obvious

Speaker 5 that only an idiot would think that somebody's being truthful here.

Speaker 1 So I think we're good. So you're basically telling us we can't do anything illegal.

Speaker 5 If you have a lot of idiots, the more idiots you have, the better off you are, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, is it more helpful if you're an idiot yourself when you're promoting your product? If you're like, hey, listen, I'm really, really dumb. You know, this might not help.

Speaker 5 As usual, you ask good questions. My answer to that is,

Speaker 5 I think if somebody was defending what they had said, and I guess they would try to say, look, everybody knows PFT

Speaker 5 is into the in the humor business. He's in the sarcasm business.
Bostool is a humor site. And if you're going to take something that was said there as being the truth, all right.

Speaker 5 It's much more difficult

Speaker 5 than if you are going to try to sue something you saw in an article in the New York Times.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't you see that? Yeah. Yeah.
We're so consistently wrong about everything, then why would you take anything that we said seriously?

Speaker 5 Yeah. And

Speaker 5 I think, I'm hoping, I think it's pretty well accepted that Bostel Sports, The Onion,

Speaker 5 these are comedy sites. So if you're going to sit back and said, they said that there was no problem with reverse mortgages on The Onion or Bostel Sports.

Speaker 5 That's a little different than if there was an article

Speaker 5 in the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times saying

Speaker 5 somebody is quoted in there as saying

Speaker 5 reverse mortgages, there's no problem at all.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm going to get into the reverse mortgage business. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 5 It's not a scam. I don't know if you folks, you got to change business.

Speaker 1 No, we can do two things at once.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can multitask. It's not a scam.

Speaker 5 Somebody can get an article in the New York Times.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Would you be willing to endorse it? Would you become speaking of that? Mr.
Porter, would you become our Chris Berman? And you can sell.

Speaker 1 Would you become like our Chris Berman, our Joe Namath, and sell reverse mortgages to our listeners? We'll pay you handsomely. Yeah, very handsomely.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Speaking of that, just to get off topic, I know you...
Can't believe I would do that. Did you folks see that Caller Daddy was in the cover of the New York Times?

Speaker 1 i did not i didn't but that's hilarious that you did

Speaker 5 are you sure about that well somebody somebody sent that to me yeah on the cover of the new york times magazine

Speaker 1 what uh that ain't nothing are you a big are you a big color daddy fan

Speaker 1 i wasn't until i read that article oh now you are so now it's yeah

Speaker 5 I want to tell you something. It was very interesting.

Speaker 5 Nothing bad said about Bostil. Nothing at all.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 But nothing really.

Speaker 5 There was nothing in there where she said that

Speaker 5 I love them or they've been very...

Speaker 5 She mentioned it, but not in a negative way. I think she could have been a little more

Speaker 5 effective and say, you know, they helped me get my start. They were very good to me.
David Portnoy was good to me. I had no problems with them.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 She just didn't go into that too much. It was very neutral.
Well, you know what?

Speaker 1 And believe me, you know damn well, the guy was salivating from the new york times hoping she would say something terrible about bosto or david portnoy and she didn't i would i would guess i would like and and i have no fact you know there's no facts around this is a total guess i would guess that she probably did praise us uh more than what was printed And knowing the writer in the New York Times,

Speaker 1 they're not going to print something that is positive towards us.

Speaker 1 Cause I think it's that skewed now where it's like, if someone says something positive about us, they're like, well, we'll just never say that. We'll never repeat that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, you're right. Because, by the way, you won't believe this.
I just got to talk about Uber. I just got an email from Uber, obviously.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're listening. They're listening about it.
Yep, they're listening.

Speaker 5 They're expected about it. But what I was going to say, they also put in the New York Times, they had on a sidebar that David Portnoy has been accused, you know, that whole Michigan story.

Speaker 5 So they couldn't resist getting that in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 She didn't say that, but they had a sidebar with all the little facts, and they did mention that he's been accused of this, that, and the other thing, and that currently he has sued them.

Speaker 5 But I'm sure they put that in there grudgingly.

Speaker 1 But they did. Yeah, it does.
I do like, I'm reading the article right now.

Speaker 1 I like in the opening paragraph, they say she's developed a following of millions of loyal listeners since debuting her raunchy sex and dating show on the aggressively laddish barstool sports site in 2018.

Speaker 1 That rocks.

Speaker 1 We're aggressively laddish. That's almost a feather in my cap.
We're for the boys.

Speaker 1 Say that again. We're for the boys.

Speaker 5 I still didn't hear what you were doing.

Speaker 1 You are for the boys. For the boys.
Yeah, you are down for the boys.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry. I'm not hearing what you're saying.

Speaker 1 No, you got it. You said it.
You said it. I think, like, we're down for the boys.
Like,

Speaker 1 we're just guys being dudes. We like to hang out.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
We're on the same page. Aggressively lattice.
Yeah, we're on the same page. All of us, we're all.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but it was obvious to me, and of course, I have some background in this, that the New York Times was salivating

Speaker 5 to get her to say something that would be damaging to Bostos. And she didn't.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. They were.
Absolutely. All right.
So, let's read that out.

Speaker 5 I think you'd both find it very interesting.

Speaker 1 I am going to read it.

Speaker 1 I had one last question for you. By the way, this is by far the best

Speaker 1 technology. You were on the Zoom right away.
I just want to give you a compliment. I know.

Speaker 5 Can I tell you something? Yeah. You know who did it the best that we were on, we're no longer there for obvious reasons.
And I never understood why Marty Mush had the best team setting it up.

Speaker 5 You know who he is, Marty Mush.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. No, never heard of him.

Speaker 5 No, you never heard the name.

Speaker 1 He had a show.

Speaker 5 Wait, what? He had a show that we were on for a very short space of time.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the cousin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no. He's talking about Mush the Line.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
And he had the team behind him on the technical side. They were excellent.

Speaker 1 Well, there you go.

Speaker 1 That's huge. Yeah.

Speaker 5 They're all gone.

Speaker 5 They're in ostracized heavens or something, wherever they are.

Speaker 5 But cousin Murray and I, we were on there for approximately two shows.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
So you just hopper. Hopefully we don't get canceled after this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, hopefully, hopefully, I won't even comment.

Speaker 5 Hopefully, neither one of you will put yourself in that position.

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Speaker 1 I actually get the random tweet like probably once every few or four or five months out of nowhere. Someone will be like, whatever happened to Mr.
Portnoy's mail?

Speaker 1 Has there ever been a resolution or is it still getting burnt randomly i tell you i'm gonna tell you i got some of that rollback product i won't tell you how i got it but i got it oh would it fall off the back of a truck

Speaker 5 it's good i'm just leaving it i don't want to disclose i don't want to disclose my source of supply i'm gonna guess your son might have sent you a shirt i don't deal with my son for things like that i got a better

Speaker 1 he's got another connect i got a better connection at that okay what was your what was your question i forgot the mail has the mail been burnt?

Speaker 5 The mail? That's the good news. The mail has not been burnt.

Speaker 5 But the bad news is because I closed that

Speaker 5 mailbox.

Speaker 1 Ah. I didn't need it.
So whoever has

Speaker 1 the box.

Speaker 5 I don't go there anymore.

Speaker 5 I don't have the box anymore.

Speaker 1 Got it. So that solved the problem.

Speaker 5 Yeah. If you want to tell, if the way to solve a problem is to kill it, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 5 If you had an animal that barked, well, I took care of it. I killed the dog.

Speaker 1 Perfect analogy.

Speaker 5 I don't think that's the way to handle things generally.

Speaker 1 Do you?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it would be funny if we could track down who has that P.O. box right now and if they were still getting burnt mailed.
So it wasn't.

Speaker 5 I have an answer to that, I think, because the box was so difficult for somebody to get to. It was the last box on the floor.
So here I am. At the time I started, it was probably 73.
Now I'm 75.

Speaker 5 And I can't even get to the freaking box because the box was aligned to the floor. So I had to bend down on my knees to get to the combination.

Speaker 5 I would venture a bet no one has taken that box because it's so hard to get to, and they have a lot of empty boxes. Yeah.
Which is not a shock.

Speaker 1 No, that's not a shock. Especially if they're giving people burned mail.
Yeah. I would imagine that they're.

Speaker 5 You know, they probably still burn it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just a light burn. All right.
Do you want to end with the three words?

Speaker 5 Okay. I'm going to try.
I'm just, I'm sticking my neck out there. I'm going to start with Uber.

Speaker 1 Yes. Nailed it.

Speaker 5 Uber.

Speaker 5 Patriots chowder. Nailed it.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 I want to tell you. The first time we do this, give me a heads up.
I haven't done that in so long. I don't think,

Speaker 5 you know, I'm going to ask. This is an honest question.
I want to answer to this question.

Speaker 5 You think I should have known those things.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 1 You're good.

Speaker 1 You're good. It's totally normal.
I remember. A couple years ago when we first asked you those questions,

Speaker 1 you were very stressed out about your mental state you were dealing with a lot of anxiety and you still were able to retain those words over the next couple years but we haven't asked you in a long long time so to get two out of three i think it's good you should not be having that same anxiety i think that your brain is doing wonderful yes and you know you don't realize that that does bother me Yeah, but you are doing way better than the last time because I know you had like a fall or something to some with your head.

Speaker 1 You're doing way better. Just the fact that when I said three words, you were like, all right, Uber Patriots, like that right there, test over.

Speaker 1 over you've been holding those around you've been walking around with those three words

Speaker 5 even if you just have me on for 13 seconds to give you the words i wouldn't mind that okay all right we'll start calling you random i'll call you random phone calls yeah in the middle of one of your shows just say we're gonna have a break now we're gonna call we're gonna call cousin mike

Speaker 5 have him be on for 10 seconds i will do that

Speaker 1 i wouldn't mind i will do that that will be a test in the next month i'm telling you that right now i i wouldn't mind that okay perfect all right well it's always great to talk to you.

Speaker 1 Always great to catch up.

Speaker 5 I love you guys.

Speaker 1 We love you.

Speaker 1 We won't have it be this long in between the next time. So just for the words only.
Yes. Okay.
Yes. All right.
Thanks, Mr. Portnoy.

Speaker 5 All right. Take care, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We've got an all-time story that is going around NBA Twitter and online.
Hank, I asked Hank to dig into it to explain it to us, and then Billy is a backup in case he gets lost.

Speaker 1 Hank, the floor is yours.

Speaker 6 All right, so I'll try and set it up a little bit first.

Speaker 6 Del and Sonia got divorced a little while ago.

Speaker 1 Curries, these are the Curries.

Speaker 6 This is the Curries. Stefan and Seth's parents.
Right.

Speaker 1 Who everyone, you know, they were,

Speaker 1 for the Warriors' stretch of championships, they were front and center for all of them.

Speaker 6 According to Robert Little, Black Sports Online, allegedly...

Speaker 1 One of my favorite journalists. Correct.
Not even, there's no sarcasm in that.

Speaker 6 Allegedly, Dell was suspicious this was happening and hired a private investigator and basically found out that she was cheating on him with

Speaker 6 this guy named Stephen Johnson, who was one of Dell's friends from Virginia Tech. Like, they both went to Virginia Tech at the same time.

Speaker 6 He was a family friend. I guess there's like he would go with them to Seth's game at Duke.
Okay. So that was what, according to Robert Little, like, inspired the divorce.

Speaker 6 Sonia says that they had already been like split up and it only started after. So it's a little bit of a he said shit.

Speaker 1 Okay. Sounds like this happened right when they were spending a lot of time around Coach K.
Ooh. Bad influence.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 But then on Friday at the Celtics game, Dell was there with Stephen Johnson's ex-wife.

Speaker 1 And he's dating her.

Speaker 6 He's dating her. He brought her to the game.
So clearly he was like, that was just purely out of spite by Dell. Like just straight up, just an absolute spite move.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 6 Maybe it's a swinger situation, but I feel like it's more like a revenge. And just

Speaker 6 even if they were dating... to bring her to the game to be seen publicly.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, oh, wait a second. Right.
You know

Speaker 6 what you you were doing you were trying to be messy you were trying to be toxic hopefully it's a big distraction for steph i can't imagine trying to play in the nba finals and dealing with with that kind of kind of press uh but it's it's it's a wild wild story because it at first people shared the screenshots and said oh like it looks like as a joke basically like it looks like they switched you know partners no it's like how you defending and then hours later it came out like no like they actually did they they switched on the pick and roll instead of coming under right

Speaker 1 billy billy my take it's it's just a swap seize. A swap sees.
A temporary swap sees? What's the difference between a swap seize and a swingsies?

Speaker 6 Why would you do a swap seize though and get a divorce?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, there's a swap season.
It seems like a permanent swap. Well, that's the difference between a swingsies and a swap season's.
A swingsies staying married, a swap sees is.

Speaker 1 Swingsies is we had an understanding. Right.
Swap seesies is what the fuck. Yeah.
Okay. This is, I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 6 He was a Patriots tight end. He started three games for the Patriots his rookie year, recorded one catch for five yards, and then got a knee knee injury.

Speaker 1 So is this guy a Boston sports icon that's trying to bring down the Warriors? Very classy of him. Inside job.
Interesting. This is similar.
The story,

Speaker 1 I just looked it up. 1970 Yankees, Fritz Peterson and Mike

Speaker 1 Kekic

Speaker 1 swapped wives for

Speaker 1 an entire season and then made it official. You've heard of this, Billy? Yeah, they went on vacation together.
And they swapped wives.

Speaker 1 I didn't know the names. It was a very famous story, though.
Hold on, I'm going to.

Speaker 6 That's the 70s, though.

Speaker 1 They went on vacation together, and they're like, oh, we actually like each other better than the OGs. Like taking a season off, taking a gap, you're in your mind.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 it was both men and their families lived close to each other in New Jersey and had frequently gotten their families together since the 1969 season when Kekic had joined the team. It just happened.

Speaker 1 It wasn't planned, said Peterson. Although the announcement was made in March of 73, the conversation started a party.
Maury Allen was throwing in summer of 72.

Speaker 1 At some point during the summer, the arrangement was called off for a week. Both pitchers returned to their wives and settled back into their lives, but Peterson just wasn't happy.

Speaker 1 I told Marilyn, I just have Suzanne and Marilyn,

Speaker 1 I have to have Suzanne, and Marilyn said she was in love with Mike. And then they swapped.
That's interesting. Teammates,

Speaker 1 I got to think, like, if you end up, if Del Curry ends up marrying this lady and Sonia ends up marrying this guy, you got to go on vacations as families again right yeah you got to run it back sounds like you guys had a fun time yeah yeah you get along well as a as a double couple there is an element though that they might just be family friends and were just near each other when the pictures were taken and they're not actually together that was that that's the rational thing

Speaker 1 i don't like that i don't like this billy where you're trying to like talk us out of conspiracy theory yeah no don't do that just egg us on please billy uh by the way i'm reading the rest of this the so as always with this and this is probably gonna happen exactly in this one too

Speaker 1 Mike and Marilyn broke up and then Fritz and Suzanne ended up they're still together to this day well that's nice so that will be like I would imagine Sonia and her man are probably gonna stay together and then Dell's gonna be like okay Del's gonna play the field a little bit yeah this was you know this swap sees was good for a minute and I don't

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it goes the other way.
But remember when Del. What does it say about Steph's legacy, though? That his parents are.
His legacy's on the line.

Speaker 1 Well, imagine, though. His parents don't have a ring either.
Yeah, imagine if

Speaker 1 he does all this and beats the Celtics by himself while his parents are doing a swap seize. Holy shit.
Remember when Dell showed up to the game with like four women? Yeah. Do you guys remember that?

Speaker 1 The old DK Skansley kids. Also, I got to be honest with you guys.
I'm having a little bit of a cell phone, cell phone moment here when we keep saying Adele.

Speaker 1 When you said, like, and then

Speaker 1 Dell and then Adele. And I just keep thinking of Adele, the the singer.
Del and Adele. Yeah, and Adele.
They can hook up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What? Rich Paul. Rich Paul and Adele.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's connected to her. This goes deep.
Wow. So, Del Curry and Rich Paul.
What about Elena Deladon? Was she involved? Dela Dova.

Speaker 1 Matthew Deli. Deli.
Deli might be involved.

Speaker 6 Step stopper.

Speaker 1 We're at the point of the sister's needs. That's true.
Deli shut him down.

Speaker 6 For like half of one game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then he needed, and then Dela Dova needed to go to to the hospital because his body was.
Yeah, because he had to get IVs.

Speaker 1 Delhi's NBA career is very strikingly similar to Dan Dokich's NCAA career. Yeah, he had one half of great defense, and then he had to sit in an ice bath for four weeks.

Speaker 1 It was a hell of a half of defense. It was a hell of a half half of Delhi's great defense.
And then Delhi, Delhi got like 30 million from the Bucs. That was awesome.
Yeah, that was awesome. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good show, everyone. Numbers? Anything else? New Delhi.

Speaker 1 New Delhi, India. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 1 That's another one. I just want to name Dell things.
Different Dell things. Dell the computer.
Yeah. Dude, you're getting a Dell.
You probably don't even know that commercial. 18.

Speaker 1 That was kind of you, Billy. That actually was played by a former Billy Football.
Dude, you're getting a Dell. Being 92.

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Speaker 1 Delaware. Delaware.
Yep. We are Delaware on this podcast.

Speaker 6 A deli.

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Speaker 1 36. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's double what Hank picked.

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