Game 3 W/ Kirk Goldsberry, Danny Woodhead, And Hank Parties With Guy Fieri

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we've got a two for the people. We have our good friend Kirk Goldsbury, instant reaction right after game three of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 So you get the freshest, hottest takes. We recorded it on Wednesday night.
And then we have our good friend Danny Woodhead, fresh off of his attempt to make the US open.

Speaker 1 He fell a little short, but it was great to catch up with him. And we have the biggest celebrity in the entire world on this show, Henry Lockwood, which we'll get to as well.

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Speaker 1 I don't really know how to start it other than saying, Hank,

Speaker 1 how many relationships? Yeah, well, no, more. Actually, the question is, Hank, how many people do you think want your life?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 2 it was a great night. Probably a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So to recap, the Celtics win game three convincingly.

Speaker 1 It was actually a very, very fun game to watch because you had the Warriors almost, you know, come back, the seven-point possession, all these things happen, and the Celtics, who were the better team, win the game.

Speaker 1 Hank is sitting on the wood. He gets the ball.
Pump fakes a shot.

Speaker 1 He does his fist pumps pumps where he actually is now done a very good job of keeping his right hand cocked and loaded, but not releasing it.

Speaker 1 He had one towards the end after the block, where he let them both fight. It was kind of, yeah, he was holding one, and then it was kind of moving a little bit.

Speaker 1 He was sitting with Guy Fieri. He went to the club with Guy Fieri.

Speaker 1 He also

Speaker 1 sat on Paul Pierce's 75th

Speaker 1 top 75

Speaker 1 basketball coat that he every top 75 player got a special uh jacket he sat on it then when paul pierce was like hey you're sitting on my jacket he got up and he moved and he sat on paul pierce's phone he had an all-time night

Speaker 2 so i you just go like this is we'll pepper in questions but it is the henry lockwood show to start this one Yeah, I mean, I tried to write down some notes to just like to things to go over because there was, so Dana Barrows, random, but Celtic legend was wearing a dana barros jersey during like the pregame warm-ups and was standing like two feet in front of me like he was literally like boxing me in i was just like stuck behind him like that was unreal celtic legend bill walton recurring guest he was there like a row behind us did you talk to him did you remind him of uh of the time we interviewed him in vegas we didn't we didn't really get to talk to him we were just kind of like we were we were a little little far away from each other but when the t-shirt they came out with all the t-shirt girls and were like throwing t-shirts he was just standing there and just asking for t-shirts and grabbing them like but like put it grabbed one like put it down and like put his hand back up and just grabbed one put it down uh i believe it was his wife had like a six celtics garcia like jerry garcia jersey

Speaker 2 uh the paul pierce thing i mean i that that needs to get cleared up a little bit though okay please

Speaker 1 he first of all he was he was a little uh he was a little tipsy like he was he was i don't like where that's going hang it sounds like he was blaming paul for you for you almost stealing his stuff no and big hat big cat knows this where dave will like

Speaker 2 basically just for the sake of the story make things up to make it seem like more i don't think like more ridiculous i didn't sit on the jacket i i his he put his jacket like on my seat and i went to sit in a different place like oh can't sit in the jacket he's like no you definitely can't sit in the jacket and he had just thrown his phone like on the bench so when i sat down he's like that's my fucking phone but he was like he was like fucking around and then dave started laughing and then he started like obviously like realize dave was laughing and like fucking with me and then he just like kept going so it was like funny but like I didn't sit on his jacket I definitely you sat on his you defiled his jacket sounds like you tried to steal his phone yeah and his jacket

Speaker 2 no it was great

Speaker 1 okay so um

Speaker 1 I don't even know where to go. You had such a crazy night.
Well,

Speaker 1 let's talk about Hezzy Hank. Yeah.
When we'll get to the game, we'll get to the game. We also have breakdown with Kirk Colsberry.
We'll get to the game, but let's, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the ball gets deflected to Hesse Hank. And Hank, I was honestly impressed.
I I was very impressed with the fact that you caught it.

Speaker 1 It almost seemed like you were just ready to shoot. Like you didn't hesitate at all.
You were just like, this is what I have to do right now.

Speaker 1 What went through your head in the moments after you caught the deflection until you did the pump fake?

Speaker 2 If you look, you can kind of see in real time. Like I looked at the ref and

Speaker 4 pool and they weren't looking at me.

Speaker 2 Like I had the ball and I was kind of ready like instantly probably to just throw it back, but I realized like they weren't focused on me in that moment or whatever.

Speaker 2 So, I had like a quick second where I was like, all right. And then I just like, it was very natural, so quick.

Speaker 2 And then I didn't know, like, afterwards, I was asking Davies, like, Do you think that was on TV? I was like, I fucking hope so. Like, that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 And then, obviously, like, you text me, but it was just, I don't even know. Like, it just all happened very quickly.

Speaker 1 I jumped out off my couch because I was like,

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it this morning.

Speaker 1 It's so funny because we're blessed with having dream jobs and we get to talk to athletes and we get to be at all these events, but just the simple fact of our boy Hank being on TV, and like I was just like, anytime the action was down on his end, I was just staring at that left corner of my television, being like, That's him!

Speaker 1 I know him! I fucking know him! He just got the ball. I was just super impressed that you had the presence of mind.

Speaker 1 Like, most people, they catch a ball in the stands and they like start laughing and they smile and they look around. They're like, Oh, I can't believe this happened.
They toss the ball back.

Speaker 1 It was like instantaneous for you.

Speaker 1 You were like, you had a plan almost. That's what it looked like.
Now, my question to you is do you think that if you had shot it would you have made it

Speaker 1 i don't know i was kind of behind the backboard but i i mean i had a clean look i i said so we when we we had kirk on last night and it was coming up i said 0% chance

Speaker 1 0% chance I was like

Speaker 2 we were behind the backboard so like realistically but like if I was a little a couple feet to the right I also got him with the pump fake yeah you did yeah you did see his head like go for it yeah I just said the way I describe it is

Speaker 1 you, I've played basketball with you many times, and you're not, you're, you're, you're a guy who needs to warm up. That's what I said.
You need to, you need to warm up.

Speaker 1 Like, your first few shots missed the rim, and then you could hit like eight or nine in a row. So that one would have missed everything.
I think, I think low-key, Hank would have made it.

Speaker 1 High-key, he would have hit an innocent bystander underneath the basket.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, we also were like, we didn't know if we were going to get kicked out or not. That's what we were trying to decide after.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I don't think you would have.

Speaker 2 I didn't say that in the beginning, but Guy Fieri, like being with him in the beginning, because him and Dave are close.

Speaker 2 And we didn't know we, like, we went to meet up with him at his restaurant beforehand, and we just hung out with him and his sons.

Speaker 2 And then we didn't know when we got to the garden, they're like, oh, you're sitting next to Guy. It was like, oh, this is hilarious.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 2 And then the Celtics just class organization, like class all around.

Speaker 2 It was just very, like, they obviously, it's like a great, it's just a surreal experience, like, obviously from the butterknife days.

Speaker 2 And all of a sudden, we're like in the, in the legends club, like all these people sitting courtside, like it's just very, it's it's very surreal from the pit to the palace, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you went to you went out to the club with guy the next uh that night, right? Like, right after, and how was that?

Speaker 2 It was great. I mean, he's got he's got like his own line of tequila, so he was like giving us tequila before, he gave us like three bottles of tequila.

Speaker 2 I didn't, I didn't take any because we ended up at the club, but

Speaker 2 he had, you know, it was just everyone like he gets

Speaker 2 when we were courtside, we were leaving, like, walking on off the court, and like everyone, every single person, like Kenny Smith, Neil Long, like every celebrity that's there, like, sees guy, and it's like, oh my God, guy, like, guy, guy, guy.

Speaker 2 Like, obviously, being with Dave, it's kind of like that. Like, there's that to an extent.
And, like, you guys know how it is, but Guy Fieri, it's just like on another level.

Speaker 2 Like, every single person, like, I was, he was right behind me, and Kenny Smith was walking up to me. Like, he knew, he was like, hey.
And I was like, I, like, for a second, was was like, What?

Speaker 2 And then I turned around. I was like, Oh, he's going for guy.

Speaker 1 You're like, Man, this heater is incredible, Kenny Smith. Well, no, I was just like, Yeah, but it was six.

Speaker 2 He was so, like, he was so like, You're my best friend. Then I was like, This isn't for me.
I was like, But I turned around and it was just like, oh, it's for guy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, so, a segue to talking about the game is one last question about this night.

Speaker 1 Do you think one, will there be a game six? And two,

Speaker 1 do you think you'd get the invite?

Speaker 2 I do think there will be a game six, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 Very scared about game four.

Speaker 2 And I do think I would get the invite.

Speaker 1 Wow. So you could be in there for a potential clinching game if the Celtics win one of the next two.

Speaker 2 That would be correct. I'm not, I mean, I guess I don't know.
I don't want to, I don't want to knock on wood, but.

Speaker 1 Okay. So let's talk about the game.
I mean, we, Ike PFT and I are kind of in the same boat where it's like, I think the Celtics are just better. I, you know, at this point, the Warriors,

Speaker 1 I don't know what they can do other than like, everyone's got to make their shots because the Celtics, they just, the Celtics just tried so much harder.

Speaker 1 And it might not be like, that's not saying they're not talented because they obviously are, but they went for every 50-50 ball. They out-rebounded.

Speaker 1 They were like flying around, cutting harder, everything. Like, it just, it felt like the Celtics were like, we have to win this game.
And the Warriors didn't have that same same sense of urgency.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Celtics, like what they have, you know, gotten better at over the season, but that happened a lot in the beginning of the season. They still do it to an extent.

Speaker 2 It happened in the third quarter is they just

Speaker 2 will just let down and all of a sudden have terrible runs. Like that, that seven, that seven-point possession when you got the and one on the

Speaker 2 three and the flagrant.

Speaker 2 Like that's the only thing, but they obviously came back in the fourth quarter kind of like game one where they just came out in the fourth quarter and just asserted dominance.

Speaker 2 They did in the first quarter too, but they just let that third quarter when they let them down, like it was, it just gets so scary all over again when they all of a sudden are up 15 and then down two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I do feel like the Warriors, like, yes, they obviously have to make their shots if they want to win, but the Warriors are a team that can beat a team that's like, you know, better all around than them, and they can beat them easily, too.

Speaker 1 As long as you just have, you know, Steph, Clay, if those two guys make all their shots, if they get to a night where they're both on, then they're pretty much impossible to beat.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter how good the Celtics can play, but they sneaky were though but but they weren't no yeah when stuff when stuff's not playing when stuff's not in the court it's like very you can tell like their offense just doesn't like have any risk i don't think that clay was like on on though last night oh he's on he was pretty close on because remember he didn't score in the first quarter i don't think he scored in the first quarter or the fourth quarter so he had 25 points in two

Speaker 1 that's what i'm saying like they they didn't have a combination he was going off though of them of them both being just good from start to finish.

Speaker 1 And when they do, I don't think that you can beat them, but they're not going to be able to do that. Like that's not, it's it's impossible for them to sustain that type of basketball so i i also think

Speaker 1 we talked about with kirk later but i think celtics in six um hank do you have do you have anybody that you'd like to apologize any children that might have been at the game yes that you dropped f-bombs in front of because hank real classy real classy last night clay thompson reported and this is egregious if true

Speaker 1 that there were fans that were dropping f-bombs at the game

Speaker 2 is that true i hope that is very true. Multiple times throughout the game, I was definitely participating.

Speaker 1 He

Speaker 2 observation from the wood. He just does, he

Speaker 2 from start to finish, does not stop talking, talking to the refs, like talking shit

Speaker 2 the entire game. Wait, Clay Thompson?

Speaker 1 No, Draymond, Draymond. Draymond.
Yeah, Clay Thompson was the one that. Clay didn't say a word out of that.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like, Clay was the one that called you out on it, though.

Speaker 1 Did you say anything to Clay? Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 no, I didn't say anything to Clay.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. It's so soft.

Speaker 1 It is so soft.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 and obviously the series could still,

Speaker 1 I'm convinced now the Celtics are just the better team.

Speaker 1 The only team that can beat the Celtics is the Celtics. Like, they have to beat themselves.
And it's kind of sad watching the Warriors go out a little bit like this where they're complaining.

Speaker 1 And there's been complaining on the Celtic side, too. So it's not like, you know, but the way, the fact they're complaining about the F-word is insane, like being like real classy.

Speaker 1 That's you immediately lose the argument when you say stay classy. And then, and all he does is talk.

Speaker 2 Like, it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's like much different when it's like he's actively talking shit, and so Celdex fans are talking shit back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and now Draymond didn't complain that way. His wife did.
Clay did. Draymond, I don't think, said, like, hey, this was bad.
Because I think Draymond

Speaker 1 genuinely loves him. Kind of cool.
Yeah, he loves the attention. He loves being a heel.
He just sucks. He sucked at basketball in game three.

Speaker 1 But what I was saying is, like, it's weird watching the warriors they're they are the embodiment of like an a great athlete that can still do the same things but not in exactly the same way where it's like they have those runs where they'll cut it to four or cut it to five and then they couldn't get over the hump they like couldn't the celtics had an answer for them where old school warriors they would have those runs and then the game would be over they'd be like oh here's here's a 15-0 run in like two minutes nothing you can do about it game over they they have those little spurts where you're like, that's the Warriors, and then they're human again.

Speaker 1 So it's kind of weird watching them. Yeah,

Speaker 2 they need their role players if they're going to win games. They don't have anything.

Speaker 2 Like, Steph, I mean, because Steph and Clay are the only ones that can score, but if they just D them up, like, it's,

Speaker 2 I think they should win. It might be Celtics in five, but who knows? You just need Scott Foster every game.

Speaker 1 Whoa. So, Scott Foster is actually not undefeated when he refs for the Celtics.
We get into this with Kirk a little bit later. We got got by a fake stat.
Yeah. For real? Yeah, so

Speaker 1 we all now have to find out. I feel like

Speaker 2 I've seen that triculating for weeks.

Speaker 1 Because one person makes it up and then finding out the actual stat. I don't know, but finding out the actual referee record against certain teams is like pretty tough to do.

Speaker 1 You have to really dig into the numbers. So people see that, and then everyone just runs with it.
Memes said four and three.

Speaker 1 It's a real stat. So now we've got to get into the fake ref stat game, which is so funny.
Four and three.

Speaker 2 You guys are talking about 12-0, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 12-0, yeah. No, I brought it up with Kirk, and he's like, you got got.
And I was like, fuck.

Speaker 1 Scott Foster is just in that level where it's like, you can just, anything you say about him, you're like, yup, that makes sense. But yeah, you need Scott Foster.
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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, you're being weirdly.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous? I can't get the vibe of like, are you nervous of a jinx?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I have now, like, game three showed me that the best, the best version of the Celtics, the Warriors cannot beat. I'm being honest.
That's just my honest take on it.

Speaker 2 And that's what's scary, I guess.

Speaker 1 Like, saying that you might not have your best and, like, you, you, you might beat yourself.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. I could see that.
I mean, they have born proforli off

Speaker 1 a loss, or sorry, off a win. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I could see that happening on Friday.

Speaker 2 It's been the, it was like this in the Milwaukee series, like this in the Miami series.

Speaker 2 It was all three series was the same thing where it's like they looked like the better team. They kind of had control.

Speaker 2 And then they just get like they have, they just throw up stinkers.

Speaker 1 I think the only thing you have to be worried about at this point, when you say it's scary, do you mean like it's all lining up too perfectly? Like this can't be real?

Speaker 1 How good we're playing and how much clearer it is that we're the better team in this series?

Speaker 1 Like everything to you is just like perfect. It's going swimmingly.
And you're just worried that this is all like

Speaker 1 being set up to get crashed down.

Speaker 2 Yeah, pretty much. I mean, Dreamland, by the way, also just like is, he's terrible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's not good.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he can't play offensive basketball. No.
And he's just dirty.

Speaker 1 Yes. He broke the code last night.
Yes, he did.

Speaker 2 What, on the Tatum? I mean, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he went after Tatum's injured shoulder. Yeah.

Speaker 2 See, like,

Speaker 2 honestly, unbiased, unbiased me. Like, the Payton Pritchard thing, I didn't think was that crazy.
I didn't think that was that crazy either. Like, I don't think he was, I don't know.

Speaker 2 If you have cameras on it like that, you could probably do that for a million plays.

Speaker 1 Are you friends with Paul Pierce now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely. We're boys.

Speaker 1 So, when's he coming on the show?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he knew

Speaker 1 we could.

Speaker 2 I actually think we could probably, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I can try and make that happen now that we're, we're BFFs, but he

Speaker 2 came up to Dave. I mean, honestly, this is funny.
Dave will probably say it. So there was like, it's like the Legends Club where you can hang out before the game.

Speaker 2 We got brought in there and you need to get a wristband, but we got brought in by someone. So I didn't get a wristband and I left to go to the bathroom.
And I come back in.

Speaker 2 The usher was like, oh, you need a wristband. There was people like right behind the gate that were like, oh, no, he's fine.
He's with us. He's like, no, you need a wristband.

Speaker 2 Like, you're not coming in. And so I texted Dave and some kid comes up to me.
He's like, Dave's talking to Paul right now. Like, I don't know if he's going to come out.

Speaker 2 And I didn't know what that meant. And then he came and got me.
And then like we walked back in. It was him and Pierce.

Speaker 2 And I guess Pierce, who's like, Pierce came up to Dave and was like, oh, what's up, Dave? Like, love Barcelona, blah, blah, blah. Like, Dave was not expecting that.
So I think we can get him on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. We should.
And we should have done when you sat his phone, when you stole his phone from him.

Speaker 2 But I also missed that initial.

Speaker 1 You got to put your number into there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I went to the bathroom and got stuck outside. And I missed the initial

Speaker 2 embrace with Paul too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How was the party with you?

Speaker 2 I was rattled after the phone thing. I'm not going to lie.
Like, I was definitely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you smushed his phone.

Speaker 2 I sat on his phone and I was, he was like, that's my phone.

Speaker 1 I was like, no fucking way.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 2 Like underneath my ass crack. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Did you get

Speaker 1 you go out and like actually party last night with Guy Fiery?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we were at the club till it closed and then we were at a casino played some blackjack. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Hell yeah.
Guy Fiery, is he as cool as I hope he is?

Speaker 2 Dude, he is like the most down to earth, down-to-earth guy in the world.

Speaker 1 You're living the dream.

Speaker 2 He's, I mean, it was just, like, it's, it's crazy to say. That's where it's like so funny, like the pictures and stuff.
It's like, he's, he's, he's just the chillest, like,

Speaker 2 chillest guy, funny dude. And then it's like, it's Guy Fieri.
Like, you just see the way people react to him, and it's like, people just love him. Yeah.
Like, it's absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 Everyone, that's what, and that's what I'm saying. It's like, you in being in Boston, there's obviously a lot of fans.
People see Dave and they react a certain way. They're like, oh, what's up, Dave?

Speaker 2 But like, people see Guy and they're just like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 And it's like everyone.

Speaker 1 I love it too because there's,

Speaker 1 it's a great testament that the internet is not real life.

Speaker 1 Because I know there there was a moment where like people tried to ironically like shit on Guy Fieri and then you go out in public with him and you're like he's just the most beloved guy ever that gives me hope for the world I think what happened was the New York Times wrote that review of American Guest Right and everybody read it and was like this is just really mean right to a guy who doesn't do anything who's actually like a very positive person right and so it was it was kind of cool to see everybody be like yeah you know what fuck that guy we're guy fiery fans yeah he's just a good guy that makes people happy yeah and it's cool that everyone loves him out in the wild that's that's exactly what i would expect out of guy fiery um okay so uh game four friday night i don't i guess i could see

Speaker 1 that was just there it is great i guess i could see the warriors winning i just don't i think i think that they're gonna lose and then i think they're gonna win game five game five yeah and then hank will be on the wood for on the wood i want i want confetti hank wow has he hank i don't know

Speaker 1 What a moment that would be.

Speaker 2 Again, I don't want to get ahead of myself. I'm very appreciative.
If I never went to another game, I'd be fine with it. But

Speaker 2 if you're in Dave's shoes and you don't invite me,

Speaker 2 then you're a Jinx.

Speaker 1 He could be a Jinx. True.
True. How does it feel to me to be the most important part of this podcast? Just like the most famous person by far.
Easy. I mean,

Speaker 2 we've all had our championship runs. You had the caps.
Big Kat had the Cubs.

Speaker 2 It's just what happens sometimes when you, when you go on these runs and you're in the, you know, center stage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, except like for you, you've had it

Speaker 1 sometimes. Yeah.
How many championships have you seen in your day? Have you counted?

Speaker 2 I think it's 17 or 18 since this podcast.

Speaker 1 No, since you can remember being. The Patriots have won twice.

Speaker 2 The Red Sox won. The Bruins went to game seven.
I've had four.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Six. championship runs, I think, just since this podcast started.

Speaker 1 It's insane.

Speaker 1 What about in your lifetime? Do you know how many championships?

Speaker 2 I believe it's 17. Fuck you.
I think Jay could probably fact check that.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, Hank.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, what else we got? We got the Live Tour is off and running.
Hank, you're a fan of it, which you just popped on before we started. You're like, I think I'm into it.
That's a choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you've made it.

Speaker 2 I mean, if a fan, like, I'm watching it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the thing. It's entertaining.
Do you feel like 31?

Speaker 2 Like, they have like random college kids mixed in. It's kind of hilarious.
Yeah. Like, the coverage is just like it'll go from Dustin Johnson to like a kid that looks like he's 16.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that. One thing I've realized.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Like it's, it's, it's entertaining. I can't, I'm not going to sit here and say it's not.

Speaker 1 Like the uh, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia has enough money where they could literally just pay every celebrity enough money to just go live in Saudi Arabia. That's how fucking rich they are.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They can just buy, they're buying friends, and it happens sometimes. And so the PGA tour came out today and they said, we're suspending everybody that's playing on the live tour.

Speaker 1 Phil Mickelson went out today and man, he looks

Speaker 1 you want to talk about a guy that looks rough.

Speaker 1 Well, the leather coat was so great because he really, I mean, everyone was clouting on him, but he really is like the divorcee dad going through the midlife crisis, being like, I'm just going to take this Saudi money real quick.

Speaker 1 And he's, yeah, he does look rough. He looks like he hasn't slept.
There also was a nice grouping of PGA players who did the I'm not fired, I quit move where they revoked their own card.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It was weird that

Speaker 1 they waited till the live tour started to make that announcement.

Speaker 1 To make the announcement right before, I think it's just basically a case of procrastination where you don't want to deliver bad news to somebody.

Speaker 1 And so you wait until the night before and you hit up your boss and you're like, hey,

Speaker 1 not going to make it in.

Speaker 1 MBS just gave me $400 million,

Speaker 1 so I'm going to jump over to London real quick and play in his tournament. I feel like they just delayed the inevitable until the very last minute.

Speaker 1 It had big, like, asking your wife for a divorce after she had already moved out energy. Where it's like, it's already been over.
And you're like, hey, I think we should get a divorce.

Speaker 1 Or like, I have a new boyfriend. Yeah.
Or like, you know that you're about to get caught doing something bad. So then you ask for the divorce right there.
Yeah. So Phil actually put a

Speaker 1 put a vest on before he teed off today. That's the Augusta National Golf Course vest.
Oh, wow. So he's he's like begging.

Speaker 1 He's like, please, please continue to let me play in the Masters if I really want to. That's what's going to get interesting.

Speaker 1 Is if these guys aren't allowed to play in majors, then they're going to be like, oh, shit, what have I done? That's the only thing that they really care about is golfers to begin with.

Speaker 1 It's like the money, and then also how many majors.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And we had a moment where we thought our guy Brooks, he did the eyeballs emojis.

Speaker 1 It actually was a good test run for us, just in case any of our friends do do join the Live Tour, because the part of my take group chat, Brooks was fucking with everyone.

Speaker 1 He's not joining the Live Tour.

Speaker 1 Currently,

Speaker 1 he did the eyes emoji, and then like three hours later, it was like, whoops, forgot the link, and it was like Saquon Barkley's looking great in OTAs.

Speaker 1 It was a genius move for the PIP bonus stuff. Yeah, because

Speaker 2 he's probably like on his honeymoon.

Speaker 1 He had like hundreds and hundreds. He's on his honeymoon, but he's

Speaker 1 on his honeymoon, I think. But he had like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of replies and obviously a lot of retweets and likes and favorites on it.

Speaker 1 And he was just trolling everybody, but that's good because he's going to make money off it. And he also, so I, so it, how it went was he did the eyeballs emoji on the part of my take group text.

Speaker 1 Um, you've never seen a group of people be like, well, like, money's money. Like, he should go live his happy life.
Like, we were so quick to be like, we still love him.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, it's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 So then I texted him and he said that

Speaker 1 if he wins the PIP, then he'll throw us a party. Oh, there it is.
Nice. So, yeah, so we'll just have to start interacting.
Well, retweeting.

Speaker 1 Now we have to just essentially become like a giant commercial for Brooks Kepka all the time. Correct.

Speaker 1 We should retweet every tweet that he has. Yep.
Yep. And then if you're an award-winning listener, it's your duty now to interact with that tweet.
Yeah, respond to every tweet. Respond to every tweet.

Speaker 1 And we'll throw apart. We'll invite some AWLs.
Yes. Well, yeah.
Does he know that? No. Okay, yeah, but we'll invite some.
It could be two. We'll invite some AWLs to the party, and I want Luda there.

Speaker 1 Yes. I want my Luda, my Luda that I didn't get at the wedding.
But, yeah, Brooks, listen, I'm not going to judge if Brooks ends up going,

Speaker 1 but I hope that he doesn't. Yeah.
But if he does, that's fine. Yeah.
Whatever makes him happy. Right.

Speaker 1 I just want Brooks to be happy. Correct.
Exactly. I don't want him to be happy.
I might not agree with his lifestyle, but I want him to be happy.

Speaker 1 And if he loves playing on the lived tour, then love is love, and he should be allowed to do that. Correct, exactly.

Speaker 1 And then the last thing I had was: the Rams are just,

Speaker 1 I mean, there's never been a team that's just better at doing future Rams problems. They signed Cooper Cup to a big deal after signing Aaron Donald to a big deal.

Speaker 1 I mean, what can you say other than like, I respect this at this point? Like, McVay is probably just has it circled. Like, 2025,

Speaker 1 call the executives at ESPN, Fox, and CBS. I mean, do we know that the salary cap is even a real thing in terms of being enforced?

Speaker 1 Because my theory is that the NFL just said, okay, we're going to make a salary cap. Every team has to be underneath it.

Speaker 1 And then they just send like a series of threatening letters to teams that are not in compliance with the salary cap, but they don't actually have a guy that's tracking it and enforcing actual penalties against it.

Speaker 1 Right, right. It's just like, you better watch out because if you go into next year, you're going to be in cap hell.
And then they send a strongly worded letter saying, you are currently

Speaker 1 $2 million over the salary cap for the league year. And then they just never follow up on that.
It's crazy. They hope nobody calls them out on the bullshit.

Speaker 1 But smart teams like the Rams and Saints, they're just like, okay, we see through this game. Yeah, we're just going to keep worrying about it later.
Keep hoping the cap goes up.

Speaker 1 Keep hoping nothing happens. And it's working.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's smart.

Speaker 1 I'm at the point now where I respect it as someone who loves to do similar things where it's like, oh, I'll do that. Yeah.
In the future. Oh, I'll do that in three months.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll, I'll, you know, yeah, sign me up for that. Stupid bets.
Like, that's, it's a great way to live.

Speaker 1 I honestly look at the teams that have the most salary cap available, and they're always the worst teams. Yeah.
It's like you, you suck. Yeah.
You need to spend some money.

Speaker 1 You need to spend your money. Yeah.
Live today like there's no tomorrow. They're just

Speaker 1 basically the Rams have like a target wooden board above all their doors. Live

Speaker 1 laugh, love. Yeah.
That should really be the live tours.

Speaker 1 Like if they if they co-opted that, it'd be great. All right.
What if it was live, laugh love

Speaker 1 unless it's same sex yeah or

Speaker 1 live like you were dying yeah because you might

Speaker 1 because you might if you piss us off yes exactly

Speaker 1 all right let's uh let's get to our interviews we got kurt goldsbury instant reaction from wednesday night it's gonna be great we're talking we're breaking down the game uh

Speaker 1 and then we have our good friend danny woodhead and we will do fire fest on the other side

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Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 we are welcoming on our very good friend. It is right after the game, so it's a time cap.
So we're going to run this on Friday show, but it's a time cap.

Speaker 4 So we're getting instant reaction from one of the smartest basketball minds in the world. It is our good friend, Kirk Goldsbury.

Speaker 4 I don't know where we want to start, Kirk. I actually, well, I actually know exactly where we want to start because I know you have a higher understanding of the game.

Speaker 4 You have numbers that you can give us, but I have a question just from the jump. Is it fair to say

Speaker 4 Throw out like the shop making and, you know, the fact that the Celtics are probably more talented. The Celtics just straight up out-hustled the Warriors tonight.

Speaker 4 And, like, rebounding to me, the Celtics are bigger, but still, rebounding is a lot of hustle.

Speaker 4 And it was like right from the jump, they basically were like, No, we're just going to get every 50-50 ball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's fair to say they trucked them, man. That's the word that I kept thinking.
They are a bigger team. They are a stronger team.

Speaker 4 And for the first time in this series, I think they really asserted that big cat. When they won in game one, it was like crazy three-point shooting.
They looked like a lost team in game two.

Speaker 4 And then in game three, they looked like the best team in the NBA in large part because everybody in the rotation played hard, played smart.

Speaker 4 And like you've said, the rebounding numbers were good and the points in the paint numbers were good. I think Boston only had 24 points in the paint in game two.

Speaker 4 They more than doubled that tonight, which isn't just a stat.

Speaker 4 It's proof that Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown were playing aggressive, asserting their physical advantages and making plays in the teeth of the Warriors defense.

Speaker 4 So for me, yeah, it's fair to say they out-hustled them. The word I kept thinking, they trucked those dudes.
They were bigger, stronger, and better. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 Would you say, like, are the Celtics, are they intimidating? Are the Warriors a little bit intimidated? When they play like that, PFT, they are.

Speaker 4 They look like the biggest, baddest group of dudes in the league. But

Speaker 4 what's weird about the series is in game two, they didn't look like that at all. It looked like Draymond could get in their heads.

Speaker 4 Looks like they couldn't dribble down the court without dribbling off their foot. And they were afraid to make plays or couldn't get plays made in the paint.

Speaker 4 And so when they play like they did in that raucous arena with guys like Hank, three drinks in, four drinks in, guy Fieti sitting there, it's intimidating, man.

Speaker 4 It's intimidating for a team like the Golden State Warriors to go in there and play against a team like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is a big dub for everybody that said like five years ago that the Golden State Warriors were soft, that they were a soft team.

Speaker 4 And now if you wait long enough on a take and they run into a team that'll truck you like the Celtics, you could eventually be proven right.

Speaker 4 Also, if Draymond Green just ends up falling off completely, is it fair to say from a basketball nerd standpoint, does Draymond suck now? Does Draymond suck?

Speaker 4 Now, I'm not ready to go there, but Draymond has not been good enough, PFT. And I think he's the key to the series if the Warriors want to win it.

Speaker 4 I think Draymond would own up to not being good tonight. I mean, he fouled out.

Speaker 4 And that might have been the difference. The Splash Brothers were actually pretty good, right? They made a lot of threes.
And the Warriors' defense let them down tonight. PFT.

Speaker 4 After holding Boston to 88 points in game two and looking like themselves, they gave up 116 tonight. Uh, were slow on rotations, they got toasted on the boards, like Big Cat said.

Speaker 4 And simply put, they got beat up. Uh, and and and one of the things I like about Draymond, guys, is that he'll own the dean.
He says, Steph runs the offense, I run the defense.

Speaker 4 Well, if that's true, this one's on you

Speaker 4 and your leadership to get back into the series because Draymond, you weren't good enough, you fouled out. Your shooting numbers have been miserable, but we expect you to be better on defense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he shouldn't shoot threes like ever.

Speaker 4 The game was great. Like it was, even though it ends up being a 16-point game, it felt like a great game because the Celtics jumped all over him.
The third quarter Warriors showed up.

Speaker 4 We got to see a seven-point possession, which I don't think we've ever seen before, which was crazy. Now, I tweeted at you, Kirk.

Speaker 4 Did you have some flashbacks knowing that the Warriors then benefited from a landing space call?

Speaker 4 Think about Zaza taking out Kawhi when they were down like 20 in that playoff game. And you were sitting there.

Speaker 4 You were obviously in the arena when Kawhi went out. Yes, I was working for the San Antonio Spurs in the front office during that awful game.
We were up, I think, 26, Big Cat.

Speaker 4 And then the Zaza play happened and Kawhi was already limping around a little bit. Some people think that Zaza targeted his ankle.
Some people don't. Regardless, Kawhi was out.

Speaker 4 It

Speaker 4 changed the sport forever because now we have these. And you're right, Al Horford, who I don't think is a dirty player, you know, was contesting the greatest shooter in the world.

Speaker 4 And he came down trying like heck to contest that shot. And Stefan landed on his foot.
And it was scary because Stefan has those ankle problems himself. And man, those are dangerous plays.

Speaker 4 I did have flashbacks. In fact, my wife texted me.
She was like, did you hear the announcers? I still mad. She's still more mad about it than I am.
But

Speaker 4 it's a dirty, dirty situation. I don't want

Speaker 4 that gave me flashback. Short answer, yes.
Hell yeah. Now,

Speaker 4 in fairness,

Speaker 4 talking about Draymond, he also broke the code. I don't know if you saw, he tried to tug on Jason Tatum's arm after a free throw.
He also kind of fell on Jalen Brown.

Speaker 4 It's like he's right on that edge where he's constantly like, you know, like the, I feel like NBA fans 50 and up are like, man, this is good, just hard basketball.

Speaker 4 And then everyone's like, dude, are you just intentionally trying to rip his shoulder out of his socket? Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's, he, he messes with that rod in the line. Like, if you're rooting for him, like, if you're a Bulls fan in the 90s against Carl Malone, oh, my God, this guy's incredible.

Speaker 4 What a, what a ferocious defensive presence he is. And, and then, if you're rooting for the jazz, like, this guy's a maniacal jerk.
You know, I hate this guy.

Speaker 4 Uh, and that's Draymond, and that's what he brings to this Warriors team.

Speaker 4 And without him, big cat, to PFT's earlier point, without him, their defense isn't going to be good enough to beat this Celtics team. I have one sort of dumb guy stat that I'll throw out to you.

Speaker 4 The Celtics are now 11-0 when they score 108 points in these playoffs, and they're 3-7 when they don't.

Speaker 4 So if you're Draymond Green in this defense,

Speaker 4 you need to hold the Celtics below that magic number

Speaker 4 because the Celtics defense doesn't take a night off.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And on top of that, it's the turnover stat that everyone's seen at this point where the Celtics with 16 or more turnovers are basically, I think they're 0-5 or something like that, or maybe 1-5 in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And then 15 or less turnovers, they're essentially unbeatable.

Speaker 4 I think like 13 and 2 or something. So yeah, I mean, the defense, it seems like that's like, you need to make the Celtics make mistakes.

Speaker 4 And you need to hold them to let, you know, obviously it's a dumb guy stat under, you want him to score less, but you're right.

Speaker 4 like draymond that he is the he is the x-factor on that part and he totally failed tonight it seems like this this the series is is is pretty consistent when golden state has the ball they're going to end up with 105 110 points but yeah we're seeing a lot of variance when the celtics have the basketball because of those turnovers and because of golden state's ability to to be more physical or keep up with the physicality of the celtics on that so yeah keep your eyes when the celtics have the ball are there shots going in jason tatums had a couple bad nights shooting the ball.

Speaker 4 He was great tonight.

Speaker 4 But his passing, their ability to get into the paint in game three was the big difference. So if that's a trend going forward, the Warriors are in trouble.

Speaker 4 If Draymond can now flip the switch and be like...

Speaker 4 channel that crazy Draymond energy like he did in game two and hold that Celtics defense down we're going to have a long seven game series I still think that's where this is going uh but game four is going to be huge uh if Draymond and that defense can can hold the Celtics down to 108 or less they have a good chance Right.

Speaker 4 So you mentioned, you mentioned Tatum's off night

Speaker 4 when they had the loss. What you do in an off night doesn't matter if you lose according to the people that vote on the MVP award for the finals.

Speaker 4 And this is something that we're tracking here very closely. A part of my take

Speaker 4 because Billy has to go vegan for an entire month, including the 4th of July, which is like his, that's Billy time. And

Speaker 4 we need to get an update on

Speaker 4 who, in your estimation, is tracking to be the MVP of this series? Is it going to be Tatum or is it going to be Brown? Let me give you the stats too, real quick, Kirk.

Speaker 4 So Jalen Brown, 68 points, 22 rebounds, 13 assists. Jason Tatum, 66 points, 17 rebounds, 25 assists.
So pretty, like statistically, they're pretty much the same right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it's time to fire up the Impossible. burgers because I'm going Jason Tatum folks and I think Billy's I would recommend the Impossible Burgers they're better than than you think they are.

Speaker 4 They're not bad. They're not bad.

Speaker 4 I don't think he'll enjoy them quite as much as an all-beef patty.

Speaker 4 But I think Jason Tatum is going to win the MVP because the Celtics are only going to win the series if Jason Tatum has a few more good games. And his passing in particular, guys, has been great.

Speaker 4 In that game one, he had a terrible night shooting, but his pass has created 35 points for the Celtics. He can score it, pass it, rebound it, steal it.

Speaker 4 He's just slightly more complete and slightly more important to the Celtics' success, in my opinion.

Speaker 4 So I think he's a safer bet.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm not going to be shocked, PFT, if Jalen Brown wins the MVP if the Celtics win the series, but my money and my Impossible Burgers would be on Jason Tatum at this point.

Speaker 4 It does feel like, to make the Jalen Brown argument, it feels like he gets them going. a lot faster.
Like he tonight, I think game one was similar. Mark Jackson astutely said

Speaker 4 Jalen Brown was the best player in the first quarter after he dropped 17, and three.

Speaker 4 And he does, though, like it feels like he gets them in a spot where then Jason Tatum can take over later on in the game, which I guess, I mean, winning time is probably going to win the MVP, but it like that that first quarter when the Celtics jumped on him and had that energy, that was a lot because of Jalen Brown and him driving and hitting open shots.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he scored 17. He assisted on seven more in that first quarter, I think.
So that's 24 by my count. And the dubs only had 22 points.
And Jalen, Jalen, you're exactly right.

Speaker 4 He's been that, I think, twice by my count in these first three games. But Gat, he has been the spark.
He has been the leader right when the game starts, setting the tone.

Speaker 4 So, you know, like I said, if Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP, good for Jalen Brown. He could, there's definitely a path where he deserves it.

Speaker 4 And he was great in game three, especially at the beginning when the Celtics sort of needed that big start. at home

Speaker 4 and he gave it to them in a way that Jason didn't. But Jason caught up by the end of the game, had a great game.

Speaker 4 But if Tatum has these moments like he's had in the last couple of games where at the very start of the game, he like grabs his shoulder and winces in pain and acts like he needs to get it amputated, that whole thing.

Speaker 4 If he keeps doing that and the stats are even, I feel like that's tilting it a little bit towards Jason Tatum because he's a warrior. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, remember when Paul Pierce won the finals, MVP, you know, he's been known to go out in a wheelchair and come back in. So, you know, Jason's just carrying on a proud Celtics tradition.

Speaker 4 Tatum needs to shit his pants.

Speaker 4 It It is very Rothlessberger-esque that Jason Tatum, like it's, I don't think he's, I think he's obviously got an injury.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying he doesn't have an injury, but he does do a good job to PFT's point of reminding everyone about his injury very early on.

Speaker 4 Where you're like, there's been multiple times this playoffs where I'm like, oh, is Jason Tatum really hurt? And it's like, no, and then he dropped 27. Wait,

Speaker 4 does this medical tape on his shoulder, PFT, have an accent and talk like the walking boot does for Big Demos?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 ques queset vic vic more

Speaker 4 draymond don't touch my shoulder

Speaker 4 that's exactly right we just burned a new uh walking boot all right so wait kirk you just said uh this game this series is going seven so if that were to be the case i would assume the warriors would it would be very hard for them to obviously come back from a 3-1 lead we've seen it happen has it never happened have we ever seen yeah But if the Warriors are going to win, you know, like to make this a long series, I think they probably have to win Friday night.

Speaker 4 So what are the adjustments? Like, what do they have to change to win this game?

Speaker 4 And it might even just be the Celtics have been so Jekyll and Hyde all playoffs, just let the Celtics implode because it does feel like they have a game like this, and then they play a bad game, and then they play a great game, and then they just hope that they end up winning in game seven, which they've done twice so far.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think you're right, Big Gat. It does seem like they're great great after a loss.
There's now 7-0 in these playoffs after a loss.

Speaker 4 The Boston Celtics are, which is the longest such streak in playoff history. So to get to that, you have to lose a bunch of games.
Right.

Speaker 4 And you can't lose a couple in a row, obviously. So it does seem like the Celtics are due for a loss.
Now, that's, again, dumb guy reasoning. It's all about the defense.
Draymond, Kavan Looney.

Speaker 4 The Bigs have to do a better job on the glass. They have to out sort of match their own size.

Speaker 4 They have to over-index on the boards and rim protection in a way they did not do in game three, but in a way they did do in game two. They have to be physical without fouling out.

Speaker 4 Now, Draymond has fouled out twice in the series.

Speaker 4 His physicality has to be perfectly calibrated in game four to get those stops without going over the top. We've seen him teetering.
on the edge.

Speaker 4 We've seen him cost this Golden State team a finals before by getting kicked out of a game or suspended for a game with this his kick into LeBron's area of

Speaker 4 sensitivity there. So I think

Speaker 4 it comes down to Draymond Green. PFT asked me earlier, is Draymond just bad now? I don't think he's bad, but he needs to be better.
If he isn't, the series isn't going to go to seven.

Speaker 4 So I think they need to win that defensive battle in game four. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can't believe we've gone this long without asking you about the basket before the game.

Speaker 4 So before the game started, the basket was identified as being potentially a couple inches too tall by a member of the Warriors staff. They went out, they measured it.

Speaker 4 I never even knew that that tool existed, which is just like a rod that you hang from the rim

Speaker 4 to measure seven to measure 10 feet. So is that something you've ever even heard of in your days? Like, would Pop have some guy walk out onto the court and measure the basket before every game?

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's a legendary shooting coach at the Spurs named Chip England, who is one of the most brilliant shooting coaches and player player development coaches in the NBA history, but he's also very, very observant about the

Speaker 4 inflation of the basketball,

Speaker 4 the springiness of the rim, whether the rim is crooked, whether it's too high or too low.

Speaker 4 So yes,

Speaker 4 this is something that the good teams and all teams really have. I've ever seen it be too high or too low.
Sometimes you see that crooked. the crooked thing.

Speaker 4 I think it would be fun if the Celtics actually had a smaller rim, or like a carney rim, like a, you know, it's night, it's 18 inches wide, but if they had like a 16-inch rim, that would be how many splashes you get with a 16-inch rim.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? And it's also funny because everyone obviously made Bill Belichick jokes after it, but it's like, know your history. Like, this is a Red Arbach move.

Speaker 4 Like, it's almost, you can almost tip your hat and be like, it's probably the ghost of Red Arbach being like, yeah, you, you don't get to go to Boston in the playoffs and not have to deal with at least something weird.

Speaker 4 Something weird. Remember, the court had the dead spots and only the Celtics knew where the ball would sort of bounce abnormally and the other team wouldn't.
And that caused a bunch of turnovers.

Speaker 4 So it's, yeah, it's gamesmanship. But yeah,

Speaker 4 it was an interesting moment, as was when your colleague Hank almost shot a corner three from the left three. He should have let that go, guys.

Speaker 4 He's not a genius. He's letting that go.
He's a genius, actually, because

Speaker 4 if you miss.

Speaker 4 then that's falling you around forever. Like forever.
Do you think we're going to ever let that go?

Speaker 4 That's going to be like hank's calling card for the rest of his life now if he makes it i mean i don't i actually don't think that he would get kicked out no i don't he wouldn't he because he's with dave and like those seats i think they're you know i mean they're on the self they're literally on the celtics instagram right now being like big big names big games and it's dave hank and guy fiery so

Speaker 4 yeah and i i don't think i don't think he'd get kicked out and if he made that he may he's alleged

Speaker 4 what's what does he shoot from the left corner big cat does he shoot 30% from the left corner? What does he say?

Speaker 4 So I want to be, I love Hank. I love him to death.
I've played basketball with Hank many times.

Speaker 4 He would have missed that shot without a doubt because he's not a bad shooter, but he is one of those shooters that has to find his rhythm. He would have airballed it.

Speaker 4 I think he would actually agree with me because he's like one of those guys that he'll show up to the gym, first three shots won't even hit rim, and then he'll hit like eight or nine in a row.

Speaker 4 But the first shot, no chance. Like, it's hard to hit the first shot if you haven't been shooting for anyone.

Speaker 4 And then he absolutely made the right call, not shooting that ball. If he, if he needed to warm up and he's going to airball that, that's a bad look, right? If he shoots an airball, gets kicked out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the counterpoint would be, though, he looked like he caught that in rhythm. He had like Clay Thompson, like quick release on that.
Yeah, he was already in his pocket. Yeah,

Speaker 4 he was there. And he's proud of him.
He actually had a better night from three than Draymond did.

Speaker 4 can you make can you make a uh uh uh one of your heat maps for hank like his oh for oh from that corner yeah he has made the same made three same numbers made threes as draymond in this series so yeah

Speaker 4 i know he should draymond should stop shooting threes i know he like has to every now and then to try to keep people honest but it's like it actually does the opposite it's like everyone just is reminded that he cannot shoot threes well real talk when they have looney and draymond out there it's like they're playing a three on five on offense

Speaker 4 If Looney's not getting easy looks at the rim, and that's bad. And that's one thing to watch.
Like Stefan and Clay, Wiggins, Poole to some extent are carrying this offense. They need somebody else.

Speaker 4 Looney or Draymond to have something to give on offense. Because, yeah, it seems like it's three on five when they have their two-big lineup out there.

Speaker 4 And that's not going to get it done against the Celtics team that has a much sort of more robust group of scorers in the game at almost all times. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I like Kavan Looney just because he sets awesome screens. And I noticed that like he puts some meat on it.

Speaker 4 I actually have a nerdy basketball question for you because it's obviously very funny whenever you just like are, you know, scrolling through Twitter and it seems like everyone sitting on their couch has an answer to like how to play defense in an NBA Finals game.

Speaker 4 But it's obviously been discussed. Like the Warriors are running less of their motion, you know, everyone running around and more pick and roll with Steph up top.

Speaker 4 And there's a few times where Al Horford got caught, especially the seven-point possession where he's doing drop coverage.

Speaker 4 Everyone's like, you can't do drop coverage. You can't do this.
Like,

Speaker 4 I just feel like sometimes Steph is so good.

Speaker 4 I know you have to be up on him and you can't give him even a second, but it's also one of those easy Twitter answers that everyone has where they're like coaching.

Speaker 4 And it's like, it has to be more difficult than that. Like, what's the solution for the Celtics?

Speaker 4 Because it does seem to happen a lot where they run a pick and roll, and Steph gets that little glimmer and he hits the shot. Yeah, he's been awesome, and they're following the numbers, big cat.

Speaker 4 Those pick and roll efficiencies this series have been great for Stefan, and they are. You're exactly right, getting away from the motion.

Speaker 4 So, I think it starts with Marcus or whoever is at the point of attack trying to get over the screen, not necessarily relying on the drop coverage or the switch with somebody like Al Horford or Robert Williams to defend

Speaker 4 that quick, dancy ball handling that Stefan likes to do. So, can they get the ball out of Stefan's hands by blitzing him?

Speaker 4 Can

Speaker 4 Marcus Smart do a better job of fighting over these screens?

Speaker 4 They need to find a better way to stop him. Stefan did what he needed to do offensively tonight.
Again, I keep hitting this point. Stefan is not the problem.

Speaker 4 He is beating the Celtics in the exact same. This might be his best finals performance we've seen.
Period.

Speaker 4 And his team isn't there. This isn't a deep enough team.
The problem isn't there. It's on the other guys and on the defensive end tonight again.
So Stefan is carrying it.

Speaker 4 Clay was even great in game three.

Speaker 4 It was nice to see that. But I think it just speaks that there's no Sean Livingston here.
Andre Goodal is not what he used to be. Draymond isn't doing much.

Speaker 4 Jordan Poole hasn't really flexed aside from that crazy late game and

Speaker 4 the shots of game two when the game was kind of walked up. But yeah, they need more on offensive side from Stephanie.
Well,

Speaker 4 you're going to get us roasted online because of what you just said. You just, you forgot.
I mean, Kevin Durant would be nice to have right now, too.

Speaker 4 Yes, I think Kevin Durant would be nice to have right now. And you know what? I'll leave that to Stephen A and some of my colleagues at ESPN.
I'm sure they'll hit this one up

Speaker 4 for me. But, you know, this is a team that

Speaker 4 won without Kevin and then obviously won two with Kevin. But Kevin won those finals MVPs for good reason when they play a great defense.
But you know who shut down Kevin in these playoffs?

Speaker 4 This Celtics defense. True.

Speaker 4 And Stefan, you know, if you want to get into the talking heads, Gabe, Stephan is doing better against this exact same defense than Kevin did in the first round. So I think that's interesting.

Speaker 4 But yeah, obviously, if the Warriors had both of those dudes, this would be a different vibe in the series.

Speaker 4 Okay, so it just occurred to me what is probably going to happen, what I hope happens now, especially for the talking head situation.

Speaker 4 I'm hoping that we get a Celtic series win and Steph Curry gets his first finals MVP out of that.

Speaker 4 That would be the ultimate. That would be so great.
Threading the take needle.

Speaker 4 That's what we need to happen. Nick Wright wouldn't know what to say.

Speaker 4 That would be incredible. Incredible.
That would be the perfect ending. It would be probably the perfect ending of this series.
I don't know what the talking heads would make of that, guys.

Speaker 4 I think that

Speaker 4 first take would just implode on itself.

Speaker 2 I don't know if

Speaker 4 the power of Skip's own brain would probably give him a stroke and he probably wouldn't make it. Isn't that a lot of red beat though, PFT? Like that's a lot of red meat.

Speaker 4 You can't give the finals MVP to a losing player. Isn't that what you do? Isn't that the take? Well, I think that I think the conversation has become so much bigger than just that.

Speaker 4 It's now a reflection on Steph's entire legacy that the only finals MVP he got was when they lost. Then you can go.

Speaker 4 It's one of those things that will become a Rorschach test where you can take that little nugget right there and stretch it to to back up whatever argument you had previously made.

Speaker 4 It's going to be amazing. That's now what we have to root for.
And by the way, I still do. I love that you call him Stefan.
Yeah, it's the best. There's a level of

Speaker 4 comfort with him. Like, you know, the guy.
I don't, I've been, I've been like slandering his name by calling him Steph this whole time. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, I go by, I call him Stefan.

Speaker 4 I think that's old-fashioned. I think that's what we were calling at Davidson.
I don't know why everybody chose Steph. I feel like that's a little personal.
I'm not there with him yet.

Speaker 4 But maybe, you know, a couple more hangs, a couple more golf games, and I can get there with him. I don't know.
By the way,

Speaker 4 there's two other players I want to talk about real quick. Marcus Smart played great.
And then he had like a very impactful game, you know, scored a lot of points.

Speaker 4 And then Andrew Wiggins, because you were talking about like they need someone else. I just looked up.
I looked it up. Andrew Wiggins had 18 tonight.
He's got like the quietest 18 in the world.

Speaker 4 I think it's maybe just the fact that that like he hasn't been able to hit those big threes when he's open, but it feels like they're going to need like 30 from him one night to steal one of these games.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I agree with that. You know, he's great in transition.
He gives them dunks. He has the potential to tear the internet down with a dunk.
That could help the momentum.

Speaker 4 They're finding him open for three, he's got to make those. But you're right.

Speaker 4 Like he is one of the two guys, the other one being Jordan Poole, that could sneak in a 28-point game here and and really lift this offense over the hump.

Speaker 4 Marcus Smart was awesome tonight. It feels like he's finally getting back from his injury.

Speaker 4 And one of the cool stats that came out of this tonight was that Jalen Brown, Jason Tato, and Marcus Smart are the first trio to have 20 points, five rebounds, and five assists in the finals game since Kareem Magic and Michael Cooper did it in 1984.

Speaker 4 Again, super weird, esoteric ESPN stat. I love those, but it just proves that this is a deep team.
And these three guys were all contributing tonight in Boston in a big game

Speaker 4 and all played very, very well in a way that the Warriors don't have that kind of depth.

Speaker 4 That's a stat that we need to hear somebody like Wiggins or Poole getting numbers that they haven't been getting so they can match a stat like that. I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 That is a very cool stat. Can you explain to us, maybe if you have another like dumb or a smart way, or I guess a dumb way to say something smart?

Speaker 4 The fourth quarter starts, and the Celtics respond to the third quarter Warriors onslaught because you don't see many teams bounce back from taking that beating from the Warriors in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 It can demoralize you. But the Celtics, like, I would just be like, they're a tough team, is what I would say.

Speaker 4 But from like a basketball perspective, is there any way that you can quantify what the Celtics were able to do or what they changed, what they did differently from what most teams do after they received that beatdown from the third quarter Warriors?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I had that in my nose, PFT. So, yeah, they take take the Haymaker in game one.
They respond with an awesome game or fourth quarter three-point shooting clinic.

Speaker 4 What was interesting in game one was that Stephen Curry took his normal rest at the end of the beginning of the fourth quarter and sat the first six minutes. And that's when the game flipped.

Speaker 4 Tonight, Steve Kerr actually rested Stephen Curry at the end of the third. Now you have me in my head about what I'm calling the steve.
No, it's good. I don't mean to do that.

Speaker 4 I like it when you do it.

Speaker 4 But yeah, so Steph came out and played the first first part of the fourth quarter, and it still didn't really affect it.

Speaker 4 So I think they're trying to tweak their rotations because the Warriors are a much better team statistically when Stephan Curry's on the court shocker, I know.

Speaker 4 But in game one, they tried to sort of, they exploited no Stephan in the court at the beginning of that fourth. Tonight, he was out there and they still did it.

Speaker 4 I think it's just, you know, the Golden State Warriors deserve a lot of credit for having this third quarter magic haymaker that they can throw. And they threw it again tonight.

Speaker 4 But yeah, that i think it is a real sign of the the toughness of this team especially on offense that they can come back out and and throw their own haymaker in the fourth it's won both game one and game three for me yeah should we start talking more about like the the fourth quarter celtics is that a thing hey yeah i think we should make that a series let's do the thing let's do a thing let's keep the game four it does and steph did have foul trouble which i everyone was expecting the scott foster game everyone expecting the refs to control this game i don't think that that happened like i wait big news big news big cat yeah i was behind scott foster in the metal detector line on the way to the arena yeah i had to talk to him for a second it was very exciting what do you mean how many cell phones did he have did he whisper in your ear like hey take the celtics tonight under take the under yeah the overhit no he's i think he's i think he's 12-0 in celtics games or i i saw this that i'm gonna pull it up but yeah he probably whispered to you so he's 12-0 uh in celtics games this year wasn't no or the celtics 12-0 be this guy wasn't that

Speaker 4 Wasn't that fake? Fake management? It was fake. Okay, then maybe it was fake.
Yeah, I guess Scott Foster has reached a level where any stat, I'll be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Well, also,

Speaker 4 29 and one in Boston.

Speaker 4 He basically gave Chris Paul COVID for game seven of the RAF series. That's right.

Speaker 4 He's out there. Yeah.
He injected him with COVID. We need to start making up like ref stats because they're so hard to track.
Like nobody knows how to find that data.

Speaker 4 So memes, that's what we need to do before the next game. Just find out who one of the refs is and just make something like completely out of thin air up.
Yeah, I definitely got duped.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got duped because Scott Foster, like, you could tell me anything about Scott Foster. Right.
Any which way. And I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like a Chuck Norris bit at this point with that guy. He's like,

Speaker 4 you can make up anything. It sounds true.
Everybody hates him. He's like the ref that every team in the league thinks hates them, which is impossible.
But yeah, here he is in game three.

Speaker 4 And I don't think the officiating really had an effect on this game at all.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it was interesting for me to be behind him in the middle of the tanker line going into the arena being like, oh, gosh, you know,

Speaker 4 I hope one of us gets out of here alive tonight. Go ahead and do that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I actually thought like there was obviously

Speaker 4 there were some like significant fouls, Steph Curry getting foul trouble, but I thought it was a pretty physical game and they let him play for the most part.

Speaker 4 I mean, there was some, you know, there's a decent amount of foul shots, but like there was some physical, physical play happening, which I love to see.

Speaker 4 Yeah, guys were fighting into screens, colliding with screeners. Draymond was playing super physical, in fact, got disqualified for it.
And then Stefan had a couple of dumb reach-in fouls.

Speaker 4 His fourth foul, I remember when he was behind Marcus Smart in the third quarter, just yanking at the play, which is just a bad foul for, you know, if you're trying to be finals MVP, you can't be in foul trouble.

Speaker 4 But to Steve Cruz's credit, he didn't quote unquote foul out his own players. He let him play through the foul trouble and ended up being okay.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I think that's something to watch too, especially with Draymond, who's been disqualified in two of these three games because of those fouls.

Speaker 4 And he can't be doing that if they want to win game four. Big cat, do you have a robot question? Because I've got one here from Bubba.
I don't know. Do you know Bubba? Have you met Bubba?

Speaker 4 New Orleans? Was he in New Orleans? He was. He was.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was in it. I know it by memory.
So yeah, it's the robot question. Promo code ticket.
We hung out, I think, at the ball. Yeah, we did.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

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Speaker 4 I want you to look at the stats for when they change to that court side angle when you're watching the broadcast. I feel like shots never go in.
Never. Bad angle smangle.

Speaker 4 i don't i don't i don't know yeah like if if somebody has run stats on that i think

Speaker 4 like i i don't know i think there's some juju about it that it might get in the players heads yeah yeah they may they that's what's true the magnets and the rims that yeah we know are in there yeah it's like there's some sort of magnetic field when they change the camera the magnets and the rims are activated and the shots never go in huh yeah yeah it could be you can get bad angles it happens in football when they go to the sky cam there's only been one good play ever and that was the corner

Speaker 4 kick return besides that happens bad angles have killed many thirst traps on instagram we know

Speaker 4 exactly

Speaker 4 it's all about the angles i tell listen i'm the king of bad angles when i take pictures so i understand this you can't you look like a different person i also if we're doing dumb stats that you should you should track uh i don't know are you going to game four Hell yeah, I am.

Speaker 4 Okay, you're going to game four. I would love, if you're watching, are you going to game five? Are you going to San Francisco? No, that's okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, so I would love to just get someone to do an actual stat breakdown of how many bangs Mike Breen does because it felt like he was making up for lost time tonight with the COVID that he's been out for.

Speaker 4 I don't know. That would just be a very funny, like, bangs by quarter.
Like, when is it most likely?

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 to be fair to Mike, you know, the Splash Brothers hit, I think, 10 or 11 of them tonight. So those are, oh, he's almost going to always give a bang for either one of those those dudes.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so there was a lot probably 10 of them there. You know, when Stefan hits one, he's always getting a bang.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I'm not like trying to tell you how to do your job, but I would look at a map of Mike Breen's bangs like an illustration forever.

Speaker 4 I would just stare at it, like, you know, what at what time and like, you know, when it peaks and everything.

Speaker 4 I think, I think we can take it even further and do like decibels and everything. Like, like audio

Speaker 4 on it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. When Stefan hit that shot in Oklahoma City in 2016 from like 35 feet, he gave the real double bang, he was so excited.
Yeah, the double won for Luca, I think, in maybe the bubble.

Speaker 4 That was the last double bang we've had him in a while. Oh, that was the one, yeah, the Clipper one.
Yeah, that was an incredible shot from the left wing, but yeah, man, I gotta make that map.

Speaker 4 We'll sell that. Oh, I gotta plug something too.
We gotta

Speaker 4 plug it away, yeah. I mean, we got Father's Day.
Are we are people buying it again? Because it's the best Father's Day. I got it from my dad, it's the best Father's Day gift out there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but breaking news, breaking news. We have a baseball map, breaking news.

Speaker 4 He's not here.

Speaker 4 Wait, did you say baseball map?

Speaker 4 Yeah, we made the pastime national park soon. If you're doing that, so you're like,

Speaker 4 yeah, you're like, let me just get more into the dad culture. I'm going to do

Speaker 4 a Steely Dan map next.

Speaker 4 Oh, me and Freak Dad. I'm going to do a Grateful Dead.
We're going to do a Grateful Dead one. Yes, but he actually told him.

Speaker 4 If we could do a Grateful Dead,

Speaker 4 like

Speaker 4 all-time songs played and everything, I would stare at that forever. Forever.

Speaker 4 But what's the baseball map? So I took the map of the baseball field and labeled it with a bunch of famous plays and obviously Hall of Fame players.

Speaker 4 There's even Big Cat Meadow on there, named after named after either you or Andres Colarraga. I can't remember which, but it's on there.

Speaker 4 But yeah, if you go to the goldenhexagon.com, I really do think it's a great Father's Day gift if your dad likes maps and or basketball or baseball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm gonna

Speaker 4 pick some. No, no, no, no, no.
When I get the roback, I'll just send you

Speaker 4 some. You're never getting the rowback.
That's part of the bit.

Speaker 4 You're gonna send it to us, and then I'm gonna feel like I have to send you a shirt, and then I'm gonna have to mail that map then to my dad. All right, yep, framed.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm gonna get the framed one. How about that? I'm gonna splurge.
You don't have to do that, dude. I'm gonna buy all these.
Yeah, buy buy it now. Sorry, dude,

Speaker 4 you watched me buy your map right now, Kirk. We get paid $83,000 an episode.
We can afford to do that. Oh, my God.
What?

Speaker 4 So the crazy part is like you, when you just plugged your map right then, in the time that you spent doing that, that paid for my map. It paid for all of them.
It paid for multiple maps.

Speaker 4 Thank you, though, Kirk. We really appreciate it.
This is fun. I like these type of games.

Speaker 4 I watch that game and I just want to talk about it right away.

Speaker 4 So when we have it on a Wednesday night and it's an off night, it's like, I'm happy that you were able to hop on with us because I feel good that I was able to dump my brain out.

Speaker 4 And then now we can, you know, tomorrow we can talk to Hank and hear about Guy Fieri and the club. Dude, he's not going to be up for a little bit.
Hey, last, last question. Who's going to win?

Speaker 4 Who you guys got in the series? Celts. I think the Celtics are the better team significantly.

Speaker 4 I have a future on the Warriors.

Speaker 4 I was hoping the Warriors would go up, like one-nothing, and I'd be able to hedge back, but I think the Celtics are just the only thing that can stop the Celtics at this point of the Celtics.

Speaker 4 Like they have to beat themselves. Yeah.
And that could happen. But I would say if you play this series 10 times, the Celtics win it eight times.
Yeah, I think they just have too much size.

Speaker 4 Basketball is a pretty simple game. The bigger, stronger team a lot of times wins.
I think it's

Speaker 4 Celtics. Yeah, Celtics in six is what I got.
I think Boston wins the next game. Golden State comes back to Boston.
They win. There it is.
Yeah, I'll end it with this.

Speaker 4 I mean, can you imagine the party in Boston, Massachusetts if they win this thing at home at game six?

Speaker 4 I mean, Hank will tell us all about it because he'll probably be partying in the locker room with the guys after the game. Yeah, it'll be quite the scene and Hank will be in the middle of it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right, Kirk, thank you so much. Hey, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, longtime friend, recurring guest. It is Danny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 If you saw the news, most people did. Actually, I don't know how many people follow the U.S.
Open qualifying. Danny made it to the last qualifying,

Speaker 1 fell a little short, but we wanted to have him on. And honestly, this is going to sound sappy.
I wanted you to come on just to be like, dude, I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1 It was incredible you got that far, especially considering the fact that you like a couple years ago were like, I'm going to start golfing. And then you were two rounds away from the U.S.
Open.

Speaker 1 How's it going? I know it's a little bittersweet, but we wanted to catch up with you.

Speaker 2 Man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is a little bittersweet.

Speaker 2 Played 32 pretty good holes of golf. Not great, but 32 pretty good.
Four holes that just kind of

Speaker 2 were stupid, but it is what it is, man. Like,

Speaker 2 this is not the last time I'll be trying to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like you said, like, four years ago, if you would have told me I had a chance, I was 36 holes away from being at the U.S. Open, I would have thought you were a moron.
But, like,

Speaker 2 the truth is, like, I was at that situation. And, man,

Speaker 2 it's been a wild ride, like, in my golf journey, but man, I love it. I love playing.
I still, like, today I'm definitely not going to touch a club, but I

Speaker 2 probably tomorrow I'll be back at it just like, cause I, I need to get better. I wasn't good enough.
I could, I could see how, like, on a,

Speaker 2 on a day, if I'm playing good, that I could shoot the number to get in, yes. But, like, that's the huge difference in an am and a pro.

Speaker 2 The pros consistently do it, and they're going to be in it regardless. Where I would have needed to have a really good day.
Like those guys don't need a really good day.

Speaker 2 I would have needed a really good day

Speaker 2 and it just wasn't there. But man, it's

Speaker 1 wild.

Speaker 2 Wild to say the least.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would probably have been, and we spoke on the phone before you went to this tournament, but I think I told you this. That would have been your biggest athletic accomplishment of all time.

Speaker 1 And you're a guy that's played, how many wait, you played for four NFL teams, had like 40 touchdowns. That qualifying for the U.S.

Speaker 1 Open would have been the craziest athletic accomplishment of your life.

Speaker 2 And it wouldn't have been close. Like, I mean, I would even say

Speaker 2 because there were a lot of pros at the qualifier, too.

Speaker 1 My initial qualifier. I saw Duffner.
I thought you were playing against Duffner.

Speaker 2 Well, and the thing is, it's like, it's just one of those things. You're like,

Speaker 2 just

Speaker 2 even get to Ohio, that ranks up there with a a lot of my athletic achievements because it's also something I'm not supposed to be good at, right? Like it's something that, like, I'm supposed to suck.

Speaker 2 How many NFL running backs play golf, period? I don't know, maybe 0.4%.

Speaker 2 Like, it's just, it's not really a number. Maybe one guy in the NFL does now.
So, like,

Speaker 2 I just felt like the odds weren't for me to even get

Speaker 2 to that qualifier. And it's just, man, to get in was nuts.
I had to get into the Ohio one, I had to beat pros at my club

Speaker 2 or at the qualifier that was at my club. And

Speaker 2 yeah, so like, it's just a weird thing that I never thought was really,

Speaker 2 it's almost like I didn't think that could be reality. And then when it was, and even when I went out to Ohio and played, even though I didn't post great scores, I was like,

Speaker 2 maybe I'm not that bad at golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're good. I think we could officially say like like Danny Woodhead above average golfer.
And I like the fact that you're just you're going to keep grinding. And

Speaker 1 I'd put my money on you someday being in a U.S. Open.
I wouldn't, you know, betting against Danny Woodhead and like his will to I mean, it's more fun if you bet against me.

Speaker 2 No, but then I hate you.

Speaker 1 No, I'll tell you something. No, seriously, like we're very, we live in a very cynical time, and I think a lot of people are cynical about sports.

Speaker 1 But I was like, when I saw that you were in this, I was like, I was actually proud. It's a weird thing to say, but I was like, damn, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 Now, I do have one question, though, about your setup and like, you know, the last two days. Do you think the shorts might have hurt you a little bit? Because

Speaker 1 it is kind of like dressed for the job you want

Speaker 1 situation. I saw you out in the shorts.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, your legs are obviously incredible. You know, I mean, just guy to guy.

Speaker 2 But the shorts.

Speaker 2 In my butt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like I have some gifts there.

Speaker 1 Right? Definitely.

Speaker 2 I would say I have a gift in my butt.

Speaker 2 But the thing is, too, with pants, I could have worn some pants that just showed it off a little. And even if they were baggy, it's big enough that it's still going to show it off.

Speaker 1 You could have worn yoga pants. Right.
That would have been something. I just saw it.
Who nails would that have been?

Speaker 2 Me and yoga pants just strutting around, but then the

Speaker 1 Lululemon. Yeah, Danny Woodhead sponsored by Lululemon.
Well,

Speaker 2 I guarantee I'd be wearing a thong because you don't want any lines.

Speaker 1 I don't. I did see it and I was like,

Speaker 1 I believe that he's here. He's very good at golf.
He's right there. And then I saw the shorts and I was like, wait, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's got to take that next step in his game where he feels comfortable golfing in pants because you know that once you get there, you have to wear pants. It might be a stupid rule.

Speaker 1 It is a stupid rule. It is a dumb rule.

Speaker 2 But I think you might be onto something. And I think there's a good chance, say, next qualifier I make, I'm wearing pants.
I might go jogger's route, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because that's legal.
Yep.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 my gift will be shown off either way. And I mean,

Speaker 2 and in some ways, I don't know if it was a smart thing because

Speaker 2 I shouldn't want people looking at me.

Speaker 1 No, don't apologize for your body.

Speaker 1 That's their problem.

Speaker 1 It would be awesome, too,

Speaker 1 when you get to the U.S. Open and you're like, you know, you're popping and locking and popping on when you go to pick up the ball and your your T every time, just showing off the booty.

Speaker 1 That's how you get on TV.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you

Speaker 2 don't, I don't put the T in the ground like the standard ones. Like, I'm like making sure I'm like way down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're popping it, you're twerking on the T box, maybe wearing some heels. Yeah, really lifting.

Speaker 2 It's like, that's super weird. Why does Wood Woodhead puts the T in weird?

Speaker 1 He puts it in with his mouth. What is he doing?

Speaker 1 What? This is so, this is so weird.

Speaker 1 The T's in his mouth and so is the ball. It doesn't make sense at all.
Wait, so what were the, can we talk about the four holes? Let's just break it down. So what happened?

Speaker 1 Because I saw you started on Monday. I think you were, what, minus one through five? Yeah.
And it was like, ooh, this, we were following. We're like, oh, this could happen.

Speaker 1 What were the four holes and were they consecutive or they were just scattered?

Speaker 2 So on hole nine, I was even par going into hole nine. I will say, very tough hole.
So

Speaker 2 this course there's certain places if you hit it you can be absolutely dead just dead and i end up doubling it um

Speaker 2 and it just put it kind of put me in a tough spot being too over going into hole 10.

Speaker 2 and hole 10 i end up bogeying that one here that could have been whatever um but it was just uh it was just a tough um

Speaker 2 It was just a tough few holes that I had. There were also a few, like three holes later, I double when I hit a sand shot to three or four feet.

Speaker 2 And because of the greens, it was a spot you can't miss it in. I had to play it like two feet out to the left.
And it's like a three or four footer.

Speaker 2 And I touched it and it rolled like seven, eight feet past.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 2 And then I, I mean, it was just the greens are absurd. And then I'm like, okay, well, this is going to be right edge.
Hit it firm. And it doesn't break, but it broke a mile on the way down.

Speaker 2 So right there, that's two strokes I lose. Cause if I'm hitting it somewhere and it's a four footer, usually I'm making a four footer, but

Speaker 2 because of where it was, I was kind of dead.

Speaker 2 So that's two strokes right there, two dumb strokes on the par three, which even if it was one stroke on the par three on that first par three, that's three strokes right away.

Speaker 2 It changes the whole dynamic of just how you're attacking.

Speaker 2 the course.

Speaker 2 And then I had a, I ended up the next time I played whole nine, that par three, I double it again put it in the bad spot and then I will say the the other one which I tripled so I had three doubles and a triple usually I don't play and have a double anyways period right well the triple in all fairness guys like I was hanging out eating lunch talking with my I was already it was after my first round didn't stretch at all

Speaker 2 First swing, kind of a practice swing, cracks my back.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, this could be sketch.

Speaker 2 Take the full swing, pull it, put it in the trees, just kind of dead nation. And the thing is,

Speaker 2 I don't want to say it was, I was already plus seven, so it didn't matter because I don't want to be that guy.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 it was, it was, I was just, that one, I don't want to say is a wash, but I was hanging out with my boy Nate Ebner. He was from Columbus, came up to watch me.
So I'm like, why don't I hang with my guy?

Speaker 2 I don't need to get warmed up. I'd have to shoot a million under to get in anyways.
But then I end up playing. And after that, I have a stretch of like four birdies and like six or seven holes,

Speaker 2 playing pretty decent and giving myself other looks.

Speaker 2 I will say the thing that I looking back, I would have been a little bit more aggressive than conservative because the greens are very hard. at that course at Springfield.

Speaker 2 I feel like if I was just a little more aggressive and said, whatever, I'm going to go shoot a low score,

Speaker 2 probably would have, I played a little bit more conservative than I should have.

Speaker 1 Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 And I think that made it to where I was a little more defense, like I was playing too much defense and

Speaker 2 almost getting me in trouble.

Speaker 1 You're trying to do the fairways and greens thing from 10 cup as opposed to going for it. Yeah.
Right, right.

Speaker 2 Well, I probably wouldn't quite tin cup it, but just being a little more aggressive because I hit the ball far enough and I have a good enough short game. Not saying I was going to shoot four under,

Speaker 2 but if I play good and I should be at least around even,

Speaker 2 if you just don't do a couple dumb things and

Speaker 2 unfortunately,

Speaker 2 like I try not to, but at this course, like there's just the room for errors a little bit less. So if you're a PGA guy, your miss is probably not going to be quite as bad as my miss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and if you're playing 36 holes, that's so much golf. Too much golf.
Way too much golf.

Speaker 1 You know what the qualifier should be?

Speaker 1 And it probably is. If you just complete 36 holes of golf, then you qualify for the U.S.
Open. Because

Speaker 1 you change the rules. You didn't change the rules.

Speaker 2 It's not a legitimate thing. But yeah, I don't know.
I felt, it wasn't one of those things, and this is what's crazy, because I never thought this is how I would have felt.

Speaker 2 Even though I didn't shoot the score that I wanted to. I mean,

Speaker 2 I didn't feel out of place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a big step. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that's the thing is like, usually you'd probably fill out a place, right? I didn't fill out a place.

Speaker 2 I just, I made a couple dumb mistakes and it's like, okay, maybe next time I'm not, next time I won't do that. And

Speaker 2 I'll play more aggressive than I did in the past.

Speaker 2 Cause it's like, if you want to qualify, even though, even if it's a hard course, you kind of have to go out and take it regardless because it's a one-day tournament.

Speaker 2 It's not, I mean, yes, it's 36 holes, but it's not four days. It's a one-day tournament.
If you want to qualify, you still have to go out and take it.

Speaker 2 And, and I don't think I had that attitude, honestly, until the second round. And I was just like, whatever, man, I'm going to just go shoot a score.

Speaker 2 And that's when I started just birding holes, like, because I was like, no, I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this.
Like, oh, I'm only hitting it to right here. I'm hitting it.
No,

Speaker 2 I'm going to hit the ball hard because when I hit it hard, I hit it straighter. And I'm going to try to give myself birdie putts.
And when I did that, weird.

Speaker 1 Things work again. Crip it and rip it.
I saw Coach Belichick reached out to you, or at least he said something in the media. He said that we're all watching Danny.
We're pulling for Danny.

Speaker 1 That was cool that Bill Belichick still remembers you. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm a forgettable guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know for him, though. You're not.
You might be the most memorable guy for him. I think it's like, actually, Ebner.
He probably remembers Ebner. He remembers you.

Speaker 1 Like guys that play other sports. Bill and Checkier's injured.

Speaker 2 I mean that is true. And I will say it does it is cool because the fact of the matter is I was only there three years.
It's not like I was there for like seven years.

Speaker 2 But for him to kind of give a shout out, I mean, still kind of a cool deal. He remembers me enough.
It's funny. I had a...

Speaker 2 One of their PR guys reach out to me and laugh because then I

Speaker 2 put something out there about how, oh, he remembers me.

Speaker 2 I love you, Bill. And I said, hey, Bears, let Bill know because Bill doesn't have Twitter, but his assistant, Bears, is like the freaking

Speaker 2 protector of Twitter, social media of the team, and gets anything over to Bill that says, hey, Woodhead said this on Twitter the other day. Make sure to rip him out in the meeting.

Speaker 2 You know, like, hey, Woodhead said he talked about someone's contract.

Speaker 2 Make sure you tell him in the meeting that he, that is the number one thing we don't do is talking about another player's contract. So, like,

Speaker 2 I had to make sure Berg

Speaker 2 knew about it. And the best part is, everyone in New England knows exactly what I'm talking about.
When I'm like, hey, Berg,

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 2 let him know because he's like just creeping on social media.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've heard about him before. Yeah, he basically like prints up Twitter.
He prints Twitter out and then hands it to Bill. And he's like, here's what he does.

Speaker 2 He gets on his desktop and then prints out all the tweets of the players and says, Bill, are these okay? It's almost like, I mean, yeah, Bill watches film, right? But I don't think he sleeps a lot.

Speaker 2 So I think he has tons of files and papers that he has to go over. And I think half of it is probably a bunch of tweets from players to make sure it's acceptable.

Speaker 1 Who was, did Phil Rivers hit you up, please? Tell me what Philip didn't. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Let the world know.

Speaker 2 And I think I might have to text him, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tell him to come on part of my take as well.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can get that done and talk about his coaching career now.

Speaker 1 But no, he didn't.

Speaker 2 But man, I'll tell you what, tons of people.

Speaker 2 It was kind of cool, kind of weird, kind of like, oh my gosh, this is how my life used to be type stuff. Like just as far as like notoriety,

Speaker 2 as far as like, I got some golfers that reach out to me saying, congrats, that's sick, whatever, yada, yada, yada. Had former teammates.

Speaker 2 And that's, it's crazy. And then it's, it's kind of weird because then you're going around.

Speaker 2 And I mean, people know who I am in Omaha. And they still sometimes will say, hey, how you doing? Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 But after qualifying, like, it obviously happens significantly more. And I was like, gosh, this is kind of exhausting.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 and I said, I don't know if it was my wife or someone else. I was like,

Speaker 2 this is kind of, I guess, what it used to be like when I played, because, I mean, you're playing for 10 years. And I was like,

Speaker 2 I mean, I want to continue doing this and I want to continue playing and stuff. But I was like, this is exhausting.
I'd have to get used to that again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So I guess the next question is, where do we go from here?

Speaker 1 I know that there's some very lucrative offers out there from the Live Tour.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah.
I mean, they could get you a lot of money, Danny.

Speaker 2 They haven't reached out to me.

Speaker 1 They haven't reached out to you. We can make those connections.
billy is close with the um with the royal family yeah so

Speaker 1 oh that doesn't shock me what number would you do it for what would you let's just let's just you're what's the price for your dignity

Speaker 2 you know hey the thing that i learned big cat

Speaker 2 you never play your hand in negotiation true just

Speaker 2 you never set you never You never set the ceiling.

Speaker 1 But it is funny to just conceptualize. And, you know, there's a lot of discourse going on right now of like, so I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's the number that is enough that you just never have to like listen to anyone else ever again? So it just doesn't matter. Rough or right, like there is a number.

Speaker 2 I haven't thought about it. Oh,

Speaker 2 everyone has a number. I mean, PFT, you have a number to play in the live golf tour also.

Speaker 1 I definitely have a number. It's as close as you'll ever get to defining the term, fuck you, money.
Right. That's what we're talking about here.
Right.

Speaker 1 It's basically buying enough, having enough money that when everyone says you're a shitty person, you can be like, I don't care because I'm on a business.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, did you did you not see what? Did you not see my live contract?

Speaker 1 Right. And it's a horrible thing to say because we all like would like to be good people.
But everyone, I think, if you ask, if you hit them with truth,

Speaker 1 there is a number.

Speaker 1 And they have to admit that. For the rest of your life, you can tell anybody.
scoreboard. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 You just point. And you're like, that's it.
That's my bank.

Speaker 1 It's not even. Whatever.
It's the number that you don't even have. Like, those people who are like, hey, you're a bad person,

Speaker 1 they don't even come in your circle anymore.

Speaker 1 They can't even get to you.

Speaker 2 Because you have that number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have that number.

Speaker 1 There's some valid points, too, about like, you know, if you want to judge whatever corporation you're currently doing business with by the actions of their CEO, like, do you take Ubers? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like, there's, I think the Saudi royal family actually is the biggest investor in Uber as well. So, like, there's, there's, like,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of stuff that you can point fingers at. It's just like a little bit more explicit here.
And now it seems like, I don't know,

Speaker 1 it would honestly,

Speaker 1 I'm fine with anybody doing it. It would break my heart if Max Homa did it.
Yeah. It would break my heart.
Yeah, no, there's definitely some people. Oh, I think Max would.
No,

Speaker 1 he would. He won't.

Speaker 1 He's also, he's also half Jewish. I don't think they would want him.
So

Speaker 1 he's factual here. Did he reach out to you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who? Max?

Speaker 2 No. Oh, yes, Max did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. You guys seem like you'd you'd become like instant best friends.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's, I mean, he's awesome. Like, awesome, awesome dude.

Speaker 2 I was fortunate enough when we went down to Arizona over spring break, my kids' spring break, he had me out and we played him and Joe Scovrin. It's Ricky Fowler's Caddy and had a great time.

Speaker 2 Like, just regular dudes. And, I mean, it was fun.
It was a great time. I didn't feel like,

Speaker 2 I mean, you just feel super normal right like whereas like if you're playing with some other guys on that are very famous you it's like oh gosh is this gonna be like

Speaker 2 weird or whatever but it's it was even though he's like a top top player in the world he doesn't make you feel like that he just it's like you're a regular dude i can't wait till i can't wait till he wins the masters and then just forgets all of us I know that's the only thing it's gonna happen like big cat pft woodhead yeah Who are you guys?

Speaker 1 You need an autograph?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're like, hey, congrats on the win.

Speaker 2 I love your green jacket. Who diss?

Speaker 1 Huh? Yeah, it gets green bubble. Sorry, you're going to have to.

Speaker 1 Green jacket, green bubble. That's how it goes.
Yeah, you're going to have to talk to my PR person if you want to set up some of the game.

Speaker 1 I'll send you an autograph hat. I think Max might be the only one that's immune to it, but I also, he is getting

Speaker 1 so good at golf now, and he is like the trajectory.

Speaker 1 If you had to bet, if if I had to bet right now, I'd put two bets: Danny Woodhead will be in the U.S. Open at some point,

Speaker 1 and Max Homo will win a major.

Speaker 1 I'd like both of those.

Speaker 2 He's having a child. My best years were after my kids.
The bump. The bump.

Speaker 1 The bump. Yep.
It's a fact. We studied it this year in the NFL.
You score a touchdown whenever you have a kid.

Speaker 2 I mean, listen to Big Cat's voice. It's better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's bad. It got better.
Yeah. It's gotten worse.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it translates in podcasting. It might be

Speaker 1 the one profession that's immune to the baby bar.

Speaker 1 Well, I think also not having kids makes you worse at podcasting, too. I think just age.

Speaker 1 Father time steals everything. It's undefeated.

Speaker 2 It is undefeated, right?

Speaker 2 Hey, Big Cat, has your pickup basketball game gotten better?

Speaker 2 I see you getting bored.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 I'm training now.

Speaker 1 I'm literally just going to the gym, and I got a guy. It's called Swish House, so they have like classes, but I basically have hired a guy who just runs me through drills because

Speaker 1 I want to start playing again. I stopped during COVID, but I also know that if I just go right back into it, I'll just tear everything in my entire body.
So it's a slow ramp up, but I want to.

Speaker 1 It's a slow climb. Yeah, right.
And also, the best part is I show up, and when I play pickup,

Speaker 1 I can play two hours of pickup, and I can maybe take five shots because my job, I know my job. Do your job.
It's to rebound, it's set picks. It's to get dirty down low, play some defense.

Speaker 1 I show up when I'm one-on-one, and I get to shoot like 300 threes, which I never would do in a game.

Speaker 2 It's fun.

Speaker 2 But that's awesome. It's the climb.

Speaker 2 I can see the Miley Cyrus climb song in your earpods.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be whatever the U.S. Open for basketball is.

Speaker 2 For pickup basketball.

Speaker 1 It is very cool that the U.S. Open does have that facet to it.
Bro,

Speaker 1 anyone can qualify.

Speaker 2 Well, the NFL needs to probably get something like that that for like kickers, right, PFT? Agreed.

Speaker 2 To where it's like a bunch of guys try out and the next thing you know, you have a guaranteed contract. Because, I mean, it'd be tough for

Speaker 2 the pod because then you'd be playing probably for, I don't know, the commanders, and then it just that complicates things.

Speaker 1 We get our ratings would go down because who wants to have a Washington commander on every week? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would get less intra. All they would be able to talk about is like, oh, the commanders lost to the Giants 9-10.
Yeah, Rod Rivera would have you shut down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they should add one more wrinkle for the U.S. Open.
I love that anyone can, like, you know, realistically get in.

Speaker 1 They should have one spot, though, for, like, the everyman golfer, where when you go to the qualifying, you're 36 holes, you shoot, and every beer is a stroke off of your score.

Speaker 1 So we get, like, one just guy who's just fat and wasted into the U.S. Open.
And he can drink like that in the U.S. Open.

Speaker 4 But a solid golfer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. He's a solid golfer, but he's also a really good drinker.
he shoots like 77 right i think we'd be but he had 12 beers so he shoots 65 yes exactly john daly you just want john daly

Speaker 1 which i agree

Speaker 1 yeah what what if they did maybe that's what the live tour is doing oh that'd be incredible they're just like all right you shoot your score and then however many beers you have yeah a bongro counts as two strokes and just guys are wasted at the end

Speaker 2 or or it's like or if it's an ipa it's minus two yeah yeah you know what i mean it's like good rules these are good rules.

Speaker 1 You know what we should really do?

Speaker 2 Next thing you know, a guy shoots a 59 every week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We should do our version of the live tour where we implement these rules and then we get like exclusively marketed to John Daly to play.
Right.

Speaker 1 And then be like, hey, John, this is a sport that was invented for you. And it's funded by North Korea.

Speaker 1 By Putin himself. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, this is Shaq Putin.

Speaker 1 And then you've got Putin

Speaker 1 golfing. No, you've got Kim Jong-un golfing, and he's the all-time record holder, right? Because he's winning every weekend.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of money involved.

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Speaker 1 The bet was

Speaker 1 stood for a long time for PFT. Are we going to officially make it that if you make a U.S.
Open, PFT cuts his hair? Because it was.

Speaker 1 If you win a Super Bowl, PFT cuts his hair. I kind of like this wrinkle that it's still you, and it's just a new challenge.

Speaker 2 I love that idea, and I don't know why.

Speaker 2 I don't know why we wouldn't make it that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems like it fits. It's perfect.
No, I said, I got a little carried away when I saw how close you were. I said that I would shave every hair off my body.
You don't have to be bad.

Speaker 2 You did get carried away because if I would have had a good day, you would have been shaving every hair on your, which would have been kind of sick.

Speaker 2 We'd We'd be like, oh my gosh, it's a little spooky what's happening with this guy. Yeah.
But I would love it.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's if he makes the cut at the US open. I think if you make the cut, it's every hair.
If you make the US open, I'll cut my hair into like

Speaker 1 regular length.

Speaker 2 Either way, it would be sick if you did shave every hair on your body and we also made you wear reading glasses.

Speaker 1 Then I could host the Scott Van Pelt show. We went on vacation.
Oh my gosh, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 I'll shave my head too and we'll just do Bizarro World Scott

Speaker 2 It would be out of control. Like,

Speaker 2 you guys are always already, like,

Speaker 2 huge. Like, it's cool that you guys still want to talk to me, right? But stop it, Dan.

Speaker 1 You have to get close to the U.S. Open for us to want to call you.
Yeah, that's fair enough. Fair enough.

Speaker 2 But, I mean, you guys would be making, if you guys were both bald and had. If you guys were hairless with reading glasses, I'll tell you what, you guys would be lived to our status money-wise.

Speaker 2 not

Speaker 2 what's backing it. I'm just saying, money-wise.

Speaker 1 It would just so give another thing that Billy could, like, in you know, behind people, behind our back, like at the bar on the weekend. He's like, dude, they can't even see and they got no hair.

Speaker 1 Like, their time is up.

Speaker 1 How's old Billy doing? Not doing well.

Speaker 1 No, he's fine. He's doing fine.
He's doing, he's doing, you know, perfectly average for Billy. He's thriving.
He's actually been on a roll recently.

Speaker 1 So we've been awarding him emojis based on good behavior. It's like, you know, I don't know if you have like charts that you use for your kids where you give them stickers every time they do a trip.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like a, or

Speaker 4 like at school, like they, they do like a color chart. If you're on, I don't know why red's bad.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's because it's like a stop sign. Yeah.
You know, and green's like good. And yellow's like, oh, chill out, homie, type stuff.
But you guys have a color.

Speaker 2 It's almost like a color chart, but it's an emoji chart.

Speaker 1 It's emojis. We give him emojis for as rewards, as treats when he does something good because he's trying to go to the tight end university

Speaker 1 camp that they have over in Nashville, which really just means that Billy wants to go to Nashville and get drunk. Yeah.
So we need to incentivize him.

Speaker 1 He needs to behave himself if he wants that type of privilege.

Speaker 2 Yes. You know, if he gets enough emoji days, maybe you guys will take him out for an ice cream cone or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 exactly. They'll become real-life stickers.

Speaker 1 All right, well, Danny, thank you. It's been too long, man.
Hopefully we cross paths at some point.

Speaker 1 And yeah, do get us Phillip Rivers please all right hey sounds good fellas thanks for having me good seeing you Danny

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Speaker 1 All right, we're going to wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Hank, if you have a Fire Fest, I'm going to be mad. I'm going to be very mad.

Speaker 1 All right. I won't, I won't then.
No, go on, give it to him. I know you've got to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 It's more like, let the record show. I got to try and find my original tweet.

Speaker 2 I would say it was,

Speaker 2 I don't know, six or seven weeks ago, maybe less. I bought AirPods

Speaker 2 and I said, How long until I lose them? And I lost them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know where they are. I mean, the clock starts on AirPods the second that you buy them.
I lose AirPods like they're going out of business.

Speaker 1 Did you see the NBA? Who was the NBA player who tweeted? It was Josh Hart. Josh Hart was like, Man, I always lose these.
And he had, you know, when you pull up your Bluetooth, it has all the old ones.

Speaker 1 He, no joke, had like 35 AirPods. Just scattered in the past.
It was like Josh Hart's AirPods 1, Josh Hart's AirPod 2. Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like beats three, like all these things. Very, very fun.

Speaker 2 Wow. All right.
So this is, I put up a poll.

Speaker 2 April 11th, I purchased AirPods. This tweet will serve as bookmark when I lose them.
Place your bets. Less than a week, 4%.

Speaker 2 One week to three months, 48%. I was the winner of the poll.
Three months to eight months, 39%. Eight plus months, 9%.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 people got me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They got me read like a book.

Speaker 1 I mean, AirPods.

Speaker 1 There's never been a more clear example of a product that was designed by a company specifically so that people would lose them and then have to buy them again. Without a doubt.

Speaker 2 Without a doubt. And the fact that you can't, if you lose the case, you can't just replace the case.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 That's a shitty week. Tough week, yeah.
I know. It's real brutal.
PFT, your firefest. Things turn around.
My Fire Fest, this is actually a pretty funny Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 So I've mentioned on the show a couple of times I'm going down to the shore this summer, have a house down there again. It's going to be a great time.

Speaker 1 And part of going down there is we're trying to sponsor some of the things I'm going to be doing. For example, like grilling out, maybe we can get some Omaha steaks there.

Speaker 1 You're getting free stuff.

Speaker 1 Nice plug.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and one of our favorite companies in the world, Chevy, is going to be giving me the Silverado that Billy and I and Bubba drove across the country on our way to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 So we're going to get it wrapped was the idea. And I wanted to put, I wanted to turn the Silverado into the Silver Shark.

Speaker 1 Like put gills on the side and have like fins and teeth and shit going over the grill.

Speaker 1 So turns out,

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 2 I actually don't. I think I know where you're going with this.
I actually don't know, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's great. It's awesome that Barstall and Chevy are going to help me out with this.
And so we submitted the designs to get it wrapped. It looks like it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 And then they got back to me earlier this week and they said, hey, just so you know, I don't know when you need to have this truck down at the shore.

Speaker 1 I'm planning on taking it down there like at the very, very end of the month.

Speaker 1 But they're like, hey,

Speaker 1 we're going to need for it to be wrapped for out and about in the barstool gay pride

Speaker 1 wrap. And I need to take the truck down to move my stuff in before they're going to be able to get it wrapped as the shark.
Love it. And knowing how I just

Speaker 1 am reluctant to do anything that requires work, I'm probably just going to end up driving the gay pride barstool Silverado around Jersey Shore all summer long. You should.

Speaker 1 You should.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what are you a Tampa Bay Arrays player?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Come on.
Am I a bigot? Am I a bigot for wanting the shark?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I think you should. It's going to be a look.
Yeah. If that ends up happening.
Oh, you got to lean into it. I think I might have to just lean into it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hot boy summer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can probably get into into some good conversations. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 1 stop in the truck and everything. And you know what? It's probably a good way to not have conversation with somebody.
Like if somebody would go out of their way or

Speaker 1 like hate on that,

Speaker 1 I'm weeding out the bad hangs. Yeah.
Yeah. So I might just be driving a gay pride truck around for the entire summer, which is, which is fine.
Like we say, love is love.

Speaker 1 Probably not going to get that live money now, though, which is tough.

Speaker 1 But we can evaluate that when the time comes yeah

Speaker 1 yeah the the live money yeah you might have to be excluded from it i think you i think it's a good i think you got to drive the truck i love the truck what's wearing the ribbon yeah exactly you got to wear the ribbon i will um all right my fire fest is also has joey and pat's face on the truck i believe beautiful i've seen have you seen the designs i've seen i have not no that will be very very send it over to me because i'd like to see what what i could potentially be running rolling around in because i i could delay and get the truck wrapped in the shark which looks awesome.

Speaker 1 I love the shark idea, but you should get the shark rainbow. But there are some things that I want to get down there for right at the beginning that I'm going to need the truck for.

Speaker 1 So it's like, what do I want to do? Do I want to schedule another time to take the truck all the way back to New Jersey, get it re-wrapped, and then pick it up? Or am I just going to be like.

Speaker 1 You're trying to see. Yeah, because then you're also kind of low-key silencing the gay truck.
LGT.

Speaker 1 Right. LGTBQPFT.
Yeah, there it is. Just throw it all in there.
Especially if you tweet that, people, someone will be like, fucking, how many letters are there now? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bullshit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just sent it.

Speaker 1 I want to see a picture of it.

Speaker 2 I sent it to both of you.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm looking as well.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest is.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. I'm looking at it.
Oh, that's a perfect truck. You have to keep it.

Speaker 1 Proud AF. Out and about.
Proud AF. Yes.
You're proud AF on the top. Dude, you have to keep that.

Speaker 1 I should be mad if you don't.

Speaker 2 They should put you as a third picture in the thing just so people know it's your car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd be mad if you don't. You have to keep it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do want my face on there if it's going to be like Pat and Joey. Or maybe I'll put somebody else's face on there.

Speaker 1 The ma'am shirts. That's going to be great.
That is going to be great.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest is obviously the Warriors' future is dead.
I truly believe that. So

Speaker 1 I have a new future that I'm putting in that people are going to be very upset about.

Speaker 1 Hank, you might actually be upset about it, but it's going to be fun. It is,

Speaker 1 I don't know why, I'm just feeling it this year. It's Subway Series.
I'm putting in Subway Series future.

Speaker 2 I'd be down for that.

Speaker 1 The Mets and the Yankees to meet in the World Series, I think it's 14-1.

Speaker 1 If you're a Mets or Yankee fan, sorry. But when I said it,

Speaker 1 who was mad? Oh, Bubba was mad at me because he was like, fuck that. That would be brutal.
But I just want to see it in this office and the chaos that ensues.

Speaker 1 So one down or a million down because the Warriors were not the first future I ever lost. But we're on to the next one.
I'm already on to the next one.

Speaker 2 You've been doing this all show. I know what you're doing.
I don't. You guys both are doing it.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 4 You just decided the series. It's two to one.

Speaker 1 The Celtics are better.

Speaker 1 I know. Hank,

Speaker 1 we are. We're actually not doing anything.
Yeah, we're actually being.

Speaker 1 We truly believe this. You have won the series already.
I'm not. I don't think the Warriors can do it.
I really don't. Do you have a parade outfit picked out? Are you going to wear the pants?

Speaker 2 No, I don't have the pants with me.

Speaker 1 Do you need a truck?

Speaker 1 We should keep that truck forever. Just have it be that truck.

Speaker 1 I almost wish the truck was a little gayer. Yeah.
Like, it's almost like... Yeah, it needs a little bit more.
A little more flair to it. Disco ball or something.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say? Truck nuts. Truck nuts.

Speaker 1 Good point. I should put the truck nuts on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 We've talked about it before, but obviously we were just talking about how many championship runs the Boston's gone on in New York just doesn't do anything.

Speaker 2 Being living here in New York, I would rather the Rangers, having the Rangers people be excited about the Rangers, is fun.

Speaker 2 If it was a Subway Series, it would just be

Speaker 2 a fun time to be in New York and I would just root for the Mets.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking of it just purely from an entertainment point.

Speaker 2 Frank the Tank beating the Yankees would be the greatest story of all time. Or Frank, yeah, it'd be great.

Speaker 1 Just the buzz of the office every day

Speaker 1 would be incredible. And like the Cubs suck.
So it's like, I'm not even rooting for either team, so to speak. I'm just rooting for them to meet in the World Series and see what happens.

Speaker 1 I would not mind seeing the Mets in the World Series.

Speaker 1 I feel like they, even though they're, you know, technically a rival of the Nationals, when you have a shitty baseball team, you kind of just throw everything out the window.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, I mean, you're like,

Speaker 1 it's a free roll, though, this year, where it's like, for me, like, the Cubs suck. So, what would be the most entertaining World Series?

Speaker 1 I think seeing Frank the Tank in the World Series and trying to figure out

Speaker 1 how he can be pessimistic about his team if they're winning the World Series, that's going to be worth the price of admission. Yeah.
All right, Bill, you're Firefest. This one's pretty infuriating.

Speaker 1 So I was playing basketball Tuesday night with Stoli. Shout out Fasoli.

Speaker 1 We were there for like two and a half hours. Just the two of you or no, no.
We were playing full court with a bunch of dudes. Outside? Outside.

Speaker 1 It was like one of the first times I'd played pickup since the pandemic, and it it was sick to get back into it. So we were playing hard.
We were gas. I was totally beat up after it.

Speaker 2 What's your game like, Billy? How would you compare your game to a modern NBA player?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it was my first time shooting a lot, so I was just more inside, just getting bored. Draymond Green with less offense.

Speaker 2 Robert Williams without being 6'10. Yeah, without dumping.

Speaker 1 No, but I hit some clutch shots, but my shot just wasn't really landing

Speaker 1 that day. So anyway, so I'm coming back.
So I ordered Chipotle

Speaker 1 On my way back. So hopefully when I get home, it's there.
So I order it. I'm walking back.
Then as soon as I order it through DoorDash, it goes delivered already. I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 So anyway, I'm like, that's weird. Like, did it not go through? So I check.
I paid for it. I get home.
I'm waiting. It's definitely not coming.
So I get on the phone with DoorDash.

Speaker 1 They give me the run around for like 30 minutes. it's getting late

Speaker 1 it's like 930 945 and so basically they took my money I have no food and I don't keep food my fridge because I've been traveling recently so it's getting late everything's closing so basically I'm hungry as fuck I didn't get my food and they took my money and I'm pissed Did you go to bed without without dinner?

Speaker 1 No, I had to I went to the deli that was open. I basically ate an ice cream dinner because that was the only option.
I noticed that you're a little bit swollen now. Chipotle, fix this.

Speaker 1 Chipotle, I'm fixed. I'm a loyal.
I'm guac mode verified and you took my doubled protein rewards points. Fix it.
I want him to have a free gift card

Speaker 1 Monday.

Speaker 1 I want the black guard for Billy. I want my points back.
I want my money back because I have tons of Chipotle points.

Speaker 1 I'm a loyal customer, and I think DoorDash stole my burrito. I don't know what happened, but I called.
They gave me the runaround.

Speaker 1 They kept asking me for my order number, which doesn't exist anywhere on my order confirmations. Fixed.

Speaker 1 I'm a loyal Chipotle.

Speaker 2 Sounds like you might not have ordered.

Speaker 1 No, you took my money. I took my money.
It's like my chase card shows that I was charged for my burrito. So I'm pissed.

Speaker 2 Now you're broke.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse than getting the runaround for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And no burrito. Justice for Billy.
All right, Jake, finish this off. Yeah, so we were in Albany last week, and we were told to go to this classic sandwich place.

Speaker 1 And we were in the parking lot of the sandwich place. Billy's like, There's no seats, I want to sit.
I'm tired from getting my butt kicked by memes on a lacrosse field.

Speaker 1 And Billy's like, Let's just go to TGI Fridays. I'm like, We are not going to TGI Fridays.
Dudes and memes just stayed silent, and Billy's like, Turn the car around, we're going to Fridays.

Speaker 1 You go to Fridays, and it ends how you would expect it. So, Jake, why

Speaker 1 are you diarrhea again? Not diarrhea, but Jake,

Speaker 1 why did you not watch it?

Speaker 1 It was Friday, it was Friday, everyone. So, you have to go to to TGI Fridays.

Speaker 1 Memes and Dues. Went in Rome.
Memes and Dues were like, yo, TGI Fridays, and they were all down. They didn't say a word.
They were down.

Speaker 1 Well, they did.

Speaker 1 Memes,

Speaker 1 how down were you, and how down was Duge's? Memes of them microwave. They were down.
They were down. So anyway, thumbs up for thighs.
We were in the

Speaker 1 no, everyone was down.

Speaker 1 Memes will back this up.

Speaker 1 We were down to sit, but we were at the the sandwich spot.

Speaker 1 The sandwich spot was a deli, and like it probably would have been a great place, but we'd been out in the sun for like five hours. It was 90 degrees.
I wanted to. You're Diva Billy.

Speaker 1 I wanted to sit in a booth. You're Diva Billy.
No, no, I wanted to sit in a booth and just get like unlimited water refills because we were all dehydrated. Everyone else was the same vibe.

Speaker 1 So everyone was vibing for TGI Fridays. When we got to TGI Fridays, it was Friday.

Speaker 2 Like, I will tell you,

Speaker 1 there's all the deals. Jake started.
Oh, they're all the deals. Jake started.
What kind of deal is like, was that $5 Long Island iced tea night by any chance? No, we weren't drinking. We were driving.

Speaker 1 So we were watching.

Speaker 1 That's a lie.

Speaker 1 You can always tell when there's a bigger lie when Billy puts a small lie out there.

Speaker 1 It was like

Speaker 1 rushing.

Speaker 1 Everybody was driving at the time, so no one could drink.

Speaker 1 No, that's not true. So what really as a collective were driving? Anyway, so meme, so we like duges was driving.
If it wasn't the group consensus, the driver wouldn't have drove us to TGI Fridays.

Speaker 1 The vibes were high. And then when Jake got in there, Jake got in there.
Jake was just like getting angry at the other customers for just existing.

Speaker 1 Jake was like, oh, this place. Oh, this is disgusting.
I was like, he's trying to throw me under the bus and getting

Speaker 1 Jake's looking at Yelp reviews and being like, oh, it's just reheated everything. It's disgusting food.
So I talked to one of the guys coming out of the store.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, did you have a good meal there? And he goes, yeah, it was great. I was like, okay, like, fuck Yelp.
This guy says it was good. So we go in and we had a great time.
We got

Speaker 1 wings. We got like really good sodas.
And it was Friday. Oh, really good sodas.
Nice. Unlimited refills.
It was good. This is a good Friday.
It was just like adding

Speaker 1 time. It was great.

Speaker 1 They sat us at a dirty table, made us get up because they said

Speaker 1 that a dirty table. They just

Speaker 1 can I butt in real quick.

Speaker 1 Jake, it sounds like you're being a little bit elitist towards TGI Fridays. Exactly.
It's not my spot.

Speaker 1 I'll just say that.

Speaker 1 I do think that if you were going to a really well-known deli, you should do that. If you're in a different city,

Speaker 1 you should try.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. If Billy's whole thing was, I want to go someplace where I can sit down.
First of all, that's code for Billy Billy.

Speaker 1 I want to go to a place that has cocktails and beers.

Speaker 1 Just be honest, Billy. So this didn't want to go to the great deli because they didn't serve beer.
No, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 I think it's actually the rare case where both of you, it was like Billy's diva was passed to Jake's diva. So you both are divas.

Speaker 1 It's transitive diva property. So that gets,

Speaker 2 does that come back to you guys as the parents?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we weren't involved with them that day. So that's

Speaker 1 only so much you can do. They were at summer camp.
Like Ted Bundy had a mom.

Speaker 1 It's not her fault.

Speaker 1 There were some low-key heat stroke vibes coming out. What does that mean? That means I was.

Speaker 2 You guys are basically in the desert.

Speaker 1 No. Sounds like.
I mean,

Speaker 1 low-key heat stroke vibes. We had no water.

Speaker 1 We had to play. Nobody is hot this time of year.

Speaker 1 They didn't have water at the lacrosse practice. They didn't have the major league

Speaker 1 cooler in the field. You realize you could have just said it was hot out.
That's low-story if true.

Speaker 1 I mean, Premier Lacrosse League is not providing water to their players. No, no, because we got moved off the main field because they had to paint some lines.

Speaker 1 So we were on this side field that had no waters. And it was so hot.
Like, memes, I need some backup here.

Speaker 2 Thank you for your service, Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're playing ours.

Speaker 1 On a scale of 1 to to ten how hungover were you i wasn't he's lost his voice you can see that in pm tv i wasn't hungover i was dude this is this anyway okay i just need i wanted to sit down and get like cold ice water just refilled so i could chug it it was that was the vibe they didn't have bottles of water at the deli no but they did dude how terrible they had tables and chairs no

Speaker 1 how famous of a delivery oh my god wait you could have sat that's not true oh he just wanted to

Speaker 1 You guys are fully yet. Billy, you were being a diva, so was Jake.
But demanding a booth, specifically a booth. But just like, imagine being so, so hot and just

Speaker 1 chase water

Speaker 1 and sitting in a booth after being like, you're getting your ass

Speaker 1 beat with a giant metal stick by memes.

Speaker 1 That's a sentence. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm still being.

Speaker 1 Love is love again. We have the guy part of my quote.
That would be a good one. Yes, that would be great.
Yeah. All right.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 good job. Numbers.

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 1 69 on June 9th, which the day is currently. Just to keep Hank humble, he still has not gotten it.
26. I'm going to go 27.
Or no, 20.

Speaker 1 Did 26 get taken? Yeah, it's. Oh, no, no, 26, 27, 29 are better.
All right, 26.

Speaker 1 Three for memes. Evan? If there is a God,

Speaker 1 69 or Hank. What'd you say, Hank?

Speaker 2 18.

Speaker 1 Spanish. 66 for Bubba.
69. 69 on 69 day.

Speaker 1 What do we got?

Speaker 1 Oh, is it going to go up? Yep. Oh, 60.
56. 56.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's twice in a couple weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Second time.

Speaker 2 When was the other time?

Speaker 1 The debut. August 27th, 2020.
Oh, that was the first call ever? First of all, we did like 10 that day.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Love you guys. Orangutans regularly take hostages for food.

Speaker 1 I don't know what meant to say. I'm fading away.

Speaker 1 Today is another

Speaker 1 day to find you shiny.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for your love again.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for your love again.

Speaker 1 Take me.

Speaker 1 Have

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 gone?

Speaker 1 drink on top

Speaker 1 Sun needless to say

Speaker 1 I opted

Speaker 1 by being stumbling away

Speaker 1 Slowly learning my life is hard

Speaker 1 Say after me

Speaker 1 Life's for better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 1 Life's for better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 1 Things that you say,

Speaker 1 oh, just wait up a real way.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember. And you're shy and light.

Speaker 1 And I'll be coming for when you like

Speaker 1 me coming for you when you like.

Speaker 1 Take on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take on me, take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up,

Speaker 1 take on me. I'll take

Speaker 1 you up.

Speaker 1 Lift it on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take on me, take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up,

Speaker 1 Take away

Speaker 1 Take a

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 Take a

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

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Speaker 1 Take a meet

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