Tracy McGrady, Warriors Back In The Finals, The Heat Are Dead And Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 4 On today's part in my take, the Warriors close out the West. We're talking Heat Celtics.
We're talking NHL playoffs. We have Tracy McGrady on the show in studio.
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Speaker 6 So that means Mount Rushmore season right around the corner.

Speaker 4 Right around the corner. And the Warriors, the other, the alternate start to the show is the Warriors are back in the finals, a stat that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 But when you look at it, it's like, what the hell is going on? The Warriors under Steve Kerr are 18-0 in series in the Western Conference. 18-0 in series in the Western Conference.

Speaker 4 You see it and you're like, how is that possible? And you're like, oh, yeah, they didn't make the playoffs when everyone was injured and they made the finals every single year. Incredible.

Speaker 4 And we've talked about it, you know, throughout these playoffs that this feels like the crowning achievement for this group to be able to go back there after all the injuries, after KDE came and left, after, you know, guys are in and out and they've rebuilt themselves with that core of Clay, Steph, and Draymond and Steve Kerr there and back in the finals.

Speaker 6 We don't make excuses for injuries, but I'm willing to make a giant excuse for the Warriors for the two out of the eight years that they did not make the finals.

Speaker 4 it's all because of injuries like the warriors should have been in the finals eight years a row and actually like relatively speaking six out of eight years being healthy as a team is pretty good but right it's like it's like but it's actually like better for us though because like now i'm i'm i'm watching myself you know another blowout tonight the mavs we can talk about the mavs in a second but it's almost better because i'm watching the warriors and i'm having so much fun it feels like i like it's it's like time traveling back to the 2015 warriors when they came on the scene and they were a breath of fresh air and it was like holy shit this team is so much fun to watch they had some of that going tonight where clay was like on fire everyone was hitting their shots.

Speaker 4 It feels like that, where, like, the injuries let us root for them now.

Speaker 6 You know, what's so true is if you love something, set it free. If it was meant to be, it'll come back.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 4 It's so true. Facts.
Facts. And seeing Clay, I think like Clay is that extra piece because he struggled.
You know, he obviously coming back from double injury.

Speaker 4 He's had times where it's like, whoa, this guy is just never going to be close to the same. But tonight, it was, he had that shot going.

Speaker 6 It's like, he's he's gonna hit everything and they're so deadly and even though it was a blowout when the warriors get like that it's fun to watch and andrew wiggins i mean he's just he's just incredible now like all the time it's crazy do we do we need to start respecting steph curry more on defense respect his hustle at least yes maybe maybe not his like shot blocking ability but he figured out the secret to the good to like playing good defense for a person his size he's like remember rip hamilton when he used to just run all the time on offense and be like, that's the secret to my game, is I'm just going to run.

Speaker 6 And eventually the guy that's guarding me is going to get tired. Steph Curry just runs a shitload on defense.

Speaker 1 He's just like sprinting all over the place.

Speaker 6 If you just run enough, you'll be open on offense and you'll stop from your players on defense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know,

Speaker 4 he always tries hard on defense. And I know that sounds crazy just to say, like, of course, they're professionals.
They're playing in the Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 4 They should try hard, but there are some guys who don't try hard all the time.

Speaker 4 Like, you could even point to the Mavs comeback, partly like Luca being like, hey, I'm going to start locking in a little bit on defense. Like the whole team's going to start playing defense.

Speaker 4 I do want to give the Mavs credit. They could have easily quit.

Speaker 4 Like that, and I know it sounds crazy to say that in the third quarter, a team could quit, but if you don't think a team can quit in the third quarter, you haven't been watching these NBA playoffs.

Speaker 4 Like the whole time, I was just thinking, like, what would James Harden do in this situation?

Speaker 4 He would, he would, he would start, he'd do the running clock and make sure that every, like, he was not shooting and just passing every single ball.

Speaker 4 The Mavs had that little run where it's like, hey, we're going to go out with like a few punches here and try to make this a game. They fell short, but they deserve credit for that.

Speaker 6 James Hard would not have left Dallas.

Speaker 6 He would be currently passed out belly up in the breakfast room at Jaguars, just like sweating maple syrup and pancakes and still have a stack of hundreds that's currently being used to get him continuous lap dances until he wakes up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 And I, again, like we should, it might be a statement more on these playoffs and all the blowouts, but I'm willing to give the Mavs credit for not giving up in a situation where they could have easily packed it in and been like, we're done.

Speaker 4 We're out. Like, we're down, you know, 20.
The Warriors are hitting everything. Pack the bags.
Let's go home.

Speaker 6 Also, I feel like this was, we get like one solid, awesome, unbelievable Clay Thompson game per series. And this is it.

Speaker 6 This is the one where like we could tell he probably hit the, like, took an edible.

Speaker 6 at like after the third quarter was over just so because he knew he was in the zone he's like after the game's over during the trophy presentation i'm going to be having my god moment and i'm going to be i'm going to be on the moon he looks so high after the game and that is his right as a clay thompson absolutely and the i mean the warriors i who knows i mean i i obviously think they're going to be playing the celtics we're going to get to celtics heat in a minute um but they're

Speaker 4 they're they look really hard to beat and i don't know if like that's a maybe the teams in the west you know they they avoided playing the suns who was the best team all season but i don't they're just they're they're like back, maybe not all the way back, because all the way back is crazy to say, because that's how good they were, especially with KD, but they're as close to as back as they could be in this situation, given their age and all the injuries and like the roster changeover.

Speaker 6 I feel like if they rebound, they can't be beat. And Loki, the Warriors are a pretty good rebounding team.
Like they're not, they're not.

Speaker 6 the soft warriors that people used to hate on you know a few years ago they're i think they were like top five or top six in the nba in rebounds this year and when you've got kavon looney when he plays like significant minutes it's funny to go back because i checked his stat sheet tonight and i looked uh for like the last 20 30 games that he's played in and it goes like 20 15 15 15 16 11 like all these double digit numbers and then drops down to like three four and it's all because like he's on the court more i feel like in the finals at least if it's against the celtics he's gonna be getting a lot of minutes and if if they rebound the ball especially like on offense when they have those they have those possessions where you work hard on on defense and they miss they miss like a uh layup they get an offensive rebound kick it out miss a three-pointer kick it out again they're going to make the third one every it's demoralizing yeah too when you when that happens to a team it feels it feels like extra points

Speaker 4 and i guess you could you know there's probably some statistics some statistic out there of like made threes off offensive rebounds are extra points but it feels that type of deflation happens when the warriors get those rebounds and like you said you just know there's just they're just it's almost i think it's yeah it's statistically true they will not miss three in a row yeah so it's like almost impossible based on i'm a numbers guy if you shoot 33 from three points you're going to make one out of three every single time that's how take a math class and learn learn how to do probability also they've got ai coming back iggy

Speaker 6 possibly come back from the finals

Speaker 6 ai yeah i hope how awesome would it be if he got another finals mvp

Speaker 4 i mean it did steph jake did steph officially win the mvp of the western Conference?

Speaker 4 Because I, I mean, he had to have. I'm sure they tried to give it to Andrew Wiggins.

Speaker 4 We touched on that on Wednesday that everyone always tries to just, for some reason, be like, you know, who deserves it?

Speaker 4 Some other guy not named Steph Curry, even though it's clear Steph Curry is the guy who does like. Yeah, he won it.
Okay, good. All right.

Speaker 4 So they're coming around to the fact that Steph Curry, even if he doesn't have the most points in a given night, is by far the most important player on the Warriors.

Speaker 6 I also, I feel like the Warriors are the equivalent of the Chiefs, where it's, they're the perfect team to go basic on, to be like Steph Curry, cheat code.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Draymond Green, genius.
Clyde Thompson,

Speaker 4 walking fireman emoji.

Speaker 6 I'm pretty pumped to see Charles Barkley versus the city of San Francisco for another couple weeks. That's a nice storyline that's developing.

Speaker 4 Wait, but he's out. Yeah, he's done.
We say goodnight. Yeah, we say goodbye to him.
This is the sad part of the reason. It's the green part of the reason why.

Speaker 6 Oh, all right. That's awesome.
Yeah. Greeny's made some very powerful enemies out west, too.
So I'm sure he'll turn full heel.

Speaker 4 It is always sad

Speaker 4 when Chuck and Kenny and the guys have to say goodbye for the rest of the season. It's over.
It's always a little bittersweet. So yeah, that ended tonight.

Speaker 4 Let's talk a little hockey. Oh, Billy, do you have a game ball in this game or a hockey game?

Speaker 6 The third baseball game.

Speaker 4 Baseball game. Okay.
All right. So you want to give your game ball?

Speaker 6 Yes, Aaron Judge. He had three at-bats, one run, one hit, two RBIs, RBIs, and the Yankees cleaned up today.

Speaker 4 How thirsty is Whitey?

Speaker 6 We just got out of the car and he is chugging water. I want to give Whitey the game ball.

Speaker 4 He's drinking the ocean right now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, dude, he's going nuts. I bet you he chugs faster than you do.
Absolutely. Actually, it's kind of sad.
He's got one of those mouths where he can't really drink properly.

Speaker 6 So he just drinks for a super long time.

Speaker 6 So.

Speaker 4 Yeah, one of those. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Leroy actually used to just drink until he threw up, and then that would be his body telling him he's had enough water.

Speaker 4 Stella does that too, where she just drinks and then coughs, and it's like a little bit of throw up. It's like, yep, you're good.
You're done. You're done.
Dogs, love you, bro.

Speaker 4 Memes,

Speaker 4 you feel good?

Speaker 6 Feeling good.

Speaker 4 Look at his background.

Speaker 4 So you're, I mean, the Rangers are definitely going to win game six. Yeah, for sure.
Right.

Speaker 4 So then you got to go as game seven, but it's, it's got to feel good that the Kanes are just like, they will just not lose at home.

Speaker 6 They're the greatest team ever at home.

Speaker 4 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 Do they, will they have home ice in the, in the Eastern Conference final?

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got to check that too.

Speaker 4 I don't think they will either. Yeah, I don't think so.
But that would be.

Speaker 6 116 points.

Speaker 4 Tampa 110. Oh, so they do.
So put them in the final.

Speaker 4 That's it. That's how they do it.
I don't know if there's like, aren't there like two brackets?

Speaker 4 I, I mean, I think that's it. I think they're in the final.
I think just book their trip right now.

Speaker 6 Right. Yeah, they're, they're just an absolute wagon at all.

Speaker 4 Make sense. I'm happy for you, memes.
Um, the last thing, should we, I mean, we should probably address the fact that I might be dying. Um, I don't know what happened with that picture.

Speaker 4 I've, I'm pretty used to just getting like roasted online for looking bad,

Speaker 4 fat, ugly, whatever you want to call it. But that picture where I'm like, my eyes are black and crossed.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Welcome.

Speaker 4 I think I'm dying.

Speaker 6 Now you're getting eye roasted. You should start wearing sunglasses all the time.

Speaker 6 I'll grow out a mustache. I'll salt and pepper my hair.
I'll put on like 60 pounds and then we'll just switch roles.

Speaker 4 It was one of those things where it's just like, I, like I said, I'm pretty used to like getting roasted on a daily basis, but to have like my eyes now not work.

Speaker 4 it it it really like threw me for a loop like i and jake was nice enough to be like look here's the real picture your eyes don't look like that but i just went straight to the mirror and i was like am i am i dead am i dying what's going on right now i don't know what happened yeah no you looked like a like a zombie you looked like somebody in a horror movie that got inflicted with like the the bad contagion or like the crossroads music video that was the other thing and listen Eyes and flash photography, sometimes they don't get along well together.

Speaker 6 I just, you know, I think you have perfectly normal, perfectly healthy eyes.

Speaker 4 Thank you.

Speaker 4 I have Hank has a catalog that I've had him keep for like the last decade of just terrible pictures of me.

Speaker 4 And he'll, I've made him do like a dick's pics, which is for Grateful Dead, but for Hank's pics, where it's just my worst pictures, this definitely is, is up there now with all the fat pictures and all the bad angle pictures because I...

Speaker 4 I true, I still don't understand how that happened.

Speaker 6 It looks like somebody edited your picture like they do with the avatars when somebody buys like a really shitty crypto coin.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.
I was doing

Speaker 4 S coin. I'm doing, I'm standing up for Ascoin.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're on cum rocket right now. It looked like, yeah, it looked like Big Cat just lost all his apes.

Speaker 4 People were, the roast off was very funny. Then one person was just like, dude, you're ugly.
And I was like, yeah. Those are me.
Those are always mean.

Speaker 4 But, but PFT, like, they're mean, but in moments like this, I can't. I can't protest that.
I can't be like, hey, no, dude, actually, like, you're looking at a mutant.

Speaker 4 and and and i guess the only spin zone i have is that my eyes did a good job of getting everyone to not look at my breasts which both my nipples were rock hard so maybe that's a maybe that's a plus i think that's there's a little bit of that going around i was noticing that i was wearing a white t-shirt the other day and like just rock hard nipple season for some reason around the office i think it's colder in the office now the worst is when people like work their way down on my body and like triggs who does our artwork who i love and i consider a friend he was like the worst part is you're trying to do the skinny girl like sorority arm.

Speaker 4 I'm like, dude, I have to. I have to.
If I don't do that, it's, it's, it, like, everything falls apart.

Speaker 6 It's always weird when they find a new body part to go after. Like, I can deal with if you make fun of my eyes, if you make fun of my height, if you make fun of my shitty beard, I can deal with that.

Speaker 6 But then somebody will be like, yo, your knees are bony as fuck. And I'm like, what the hell, man? My knees are great.

Speaker 4 I love my, like, we can't do that now. You've got all these ankles.

Speaker 6 I've got enough stuff that's wrong with me. I don't need you to start.
I don't need you to dissect my thigh gap.

Speaker 4 It's true. That does happen where they just find, yeah, dude, whoa, look at your toes.
That's so gross.

Speaker 6 Dude, you should see a doctor about your thumb.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Bite your nails much.
I get that a lot with my, whenever I have my thumb, they're like,

Speaker 4 look at that. Look at your cuticles.
Like, what does that even mean? What is a cuticle?

Speaker 6 You ever get caught in between blinks? It happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I got caught in the act of blinking and I fucking looked like Spicoli.
I looked high as shit.

Speaker 6 I was a lot of things at the time, but I was not stoned. But like looking at the picture, you would never ever in a million years believe that I wasn't high.

Speaker 4 It's, I mean, it's, it's all very funny. And it's like, I just, I've been doing it for a very long time.
So when I saw this one today, I was like, well, that's something new.

Speaker 4 Like, that's something I've never seen before.

Speaker 4 My eyes are, I have the black plague in my eyeballs.

Speaker 6 So, um, can Billy and I do a quick Top Gun review?

Speaker 4 Sure.

Speaker 6 Because we went to go see

Speaker 6 no spoilers, spoiler free. And thank you.
I was actually like, I stayed offline for a good portion of the day. And Hank was like, yeah, I want to go see the movie with you.
And I thought,

Speaker 6 I thought that Hank was going to do the meanest thing ever and figure out what happened to the movie and then spoil it for me at the last second to get back for the years of Soprano spoilers that we put on him.

Speaker 6 He did not. Hank was great.
He was a good guest.

Speaker 4 I give you a moment. But no spoilers because I am going to try to see it

Speaker 4 this weekend and it just came out.

Speaker 6 I'll put it this way. Here's my review.
I'm going to go go see it again tomorrow night i already bought

Speaker 6 it so i'm going two nights in a row too beautiful review there's a lot of planes if you like planes this is a perfect movie to go see um it's basically tom cruise becomes the instructor so he's like the the instructor and the big problem is all the new recruits are pussies and he's like he's like i gotta figure out how to make them go faster and it's awesome storyline works it delivers it delivers billy what were your thoughts on the movie uh if you're driving to and from the theater, really watch your speed leaving the theater because it is absolutely electric and you're going to have a neat, a boner for speed leaving the place.

Speaker 6 And it's dangerous. And they should feel like a warning.
Yeah, even walking out of the theater, I was like looking over my shoulders and I was like banking left when I was making a left-hand turn.

Speaker 4 Oh, and they love movies like that.

Speaker 4 It's like the Truman. Remember the Truman show when you saw it back in the day and you started looking for cameras everywhere? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Or you remember Mad Max? Yeah. After Mad Max, I drove home and I thought that every car around me had spikes and missiles and catapults on it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Those are, those are the best.

Speaker 4 Or like when the Sopranos was going and you just like found yourself like being like, yeah, I'm just going to, I'm going to like I get in like a fight over a parking spot and I have an urge to just bash this guy's brain in.

Speaker 6 For me, when I was watching Sopranos, it was like, oh, I really want some Z D that's got the crumbled up ground sausage and the basil in it because that's the last Z D that was made for Bob Bakala by his wife before she died.

Speaker 6 And then Janice moved in and then she forced him to eat that last ZD before he was really ready.

Speaker 4 Either that or I hope I hope my I hope no one shows up to work early and sees me sucking my boy's dick because then I'd have to move to New Hampshire and ride motorcycles

Speaker 4 for an entire season.

Speaker 4 That was great. Also,

Speaker 6 they play a game called Dogfight Football on the beach, which you want to talk about a game made for Michael Vick.

Speaker 4 Yes, there it is.

Speaker 6 It's going to make you irrationally angry at the first part before they explain the game, but you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 All right. So spoilers, but five, I'm going to give it five and a half balls.

Speaker 4 Love it. That's more balls in than can fit.

Speaker 4 Okay. We have no show Monday, Memorial Day.
Everyone enjoyed the long weekend. And then we'll be back Tuesday with Stavi Baby.

Speaker 4 Incredible interview. Everyone's going to love it.
And then we'll have another show Friday, which will be after game one of the finals.

Speaker 4 So let's kick it back to ourselves in studio, Heat and Celtics talk, and then getting to Tracy McGrady.

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Okay, Heat Celtics, that game stunk. That game stunk.
It had two good quarters.

Speaker 1 Two good quarters.

Speaker 1 They weren't good.

Speaker 1 They just were too close. We had two close quarters.
I think what we learned last night is just because the games are close at times doesn't mean that they're they're good.

Speaker 1 So maybe some of the blowouts are actually good games. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was actually the worst of both worlds because we had a close game. So we were told, like, oh, it's finally a close game, but it was bad basketball.
And then it became a blowout.

Speaker 1 So it was just there was nothing to watch the second half. We do have a theory, though.
It made me appreciate the old blowouts, the ones where at least people were making shots.

Speaker 1 Kyle Lowry, by the way,

Speaker 1 he's not good. He's a big boy.

Speaker 3 He's not good.

Speaker 1 He's gotten thick.

Speaker 1 I think I saw a stat that their backcourt has like one made field goal in the last two games which is like insane like their starting back okay so not duncan because duncan's had yeah duncan's been doing okay yeah yeah um but the oh the stat was uh seven full quarters heat's starting backcourt has made one field goal that's not good that's pretty bad not ideal but i have a theory and i'd like jake you to weigh in on this um the reason why the heat lost on wednesday night This will surprise you.

Speaker 1 Someone tweeted this at us. It comes from an online message board, and it says, FTX arena concessions lost us the game.

Speaker 1 Seems absurd at a glance, but hear me out. Heat win the opening tip.
Fans are actually on time and packed in, part thanks to the game starting perhaps 30 minutes late.

Speaker 1 Still absolutely anemic on offense, but Heat are controlling the flow of the game and getting the better of the Celtics through the first half. So halftime happens, and then we come back.

Speaker 1 The arena is empty.

Speaker 1 The fans are all in the building as we saw from the first half, but most are stuck, still waiting in line for food and watching the game from the monitors unlike pretty much every other arena in these playoffs so the celtics get opening possession and with an empty arena it's basically shoot around for them finally finding their shots falling by the time the crowd was back from the concessions the momentum had turned completely on its head and the celtics were rolling and the heat lifeless so we're saying it was the long line it was the long line stance that was the only reason

Speaker 1 thoughts no the celtics were better and the heat stunk but that's why they lost But were the Celtics better because all the Heat fans were waiting for hot dogs? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was open gym for the Celtics. That could play a factor.

Speaker 9 I don't like the people who are screen grabbing.

Speaker 1 It's a 13-point game with like a minute 20 left and, like, oh, leaving early. Literally any fan would leave early.
Nope, not me.

Speaker 1 They have a history of doing that in the future. No, I know.

Speaker 9 So it's an easy target. Bad sports time.

Speaker 1 But if you're down 13 with a minute 20 left, there are going to be a lot of people leaving. And it was also not really like 13 because

Speaker 1 they basically just hit a few shots and garbage.

Speaker 9 If it was reversed, in Boston, Celtics fans would do the same.

Speaker 1 Probably. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd say pretty much every fan base would do the same.

Speaker 1 I can understand that. As over as over could be.
I don't, I've never seen a team, they missed 38 three-pointers, and they were not missing just like, oh,

Speaker 1 their shots are about to fall. They were missing air balls.
They were missing, like, just everything front of the rim.

Speaker 2 Three-pointers that hit the backboard and not even the rim. Disgusting.

Speaker 1 And the Celtics deserve credit for their defense and the fact that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum decided at halftime, like, oh, we're actually good. Let's stop playing like ass.

Speaker 1 And now you have a strength. I mean, it was.
Jalen Brown was like, oh, yeah, I remember how to dribble. Let me try to dribble and shoot at the same time.
Also, Jason Tatum got hurt in the first half.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then all of a sudden his shoulder got better as the game went on.

Speaker 1 So there were a lot of people saying I saw our guy Pro Football Talk or Pro Football Doc, excuse me, on Twitter said that he thought it was a back injury because a stinger isn't something that reoccurs, but then his shoulder healed.

Speaker 1 I think the Celtics just love getting injured and then coming back later on in the game, except this time he didn't have to like go all the way to locker room and come back to get a bump from the crowd because it was an away game.

Speaker 1 So it was just like halftime. He got the bump from his own team when he came back at halftime.
I think he's healthy now. He looked good in the second half.
He did every other night thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Hank, you're now 100% the Celtics are winning the championship. Yes.
Okay. Correct.
Okay. You were

Speaker 1 you were quite something to deal with during the game. You guys were up like 20 and you were like,

Speaker 1 we're still going to lose. We're still going to lose.
I hadn't seen that side of you in a while. You're usually confident and you were not on Wednesday night.

Speaker 2 I was very stressed. I mean, that was a pivotal game.
I think if whoever won that game is going to win the series. Celtics are the better team.

Speaker 2 So I've said it a few times throughout the series, but if they lost this series, it would be as devastating as it comes. That's still true.
If somehow it goes to seven, I'll be just as

Speaker 2 much shitting my pants. Jake this manned me.

Speaker 1 He this manned you, yeah. I mean, I'm not sure.
Any comment on this man guy?

Speaker 9 I've never seen him be so negative.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. Yeah, I agree.
Well, you know how it is, but

Speaker 1 for whatever reason, I had a big bet. I think that

Speaker 1 we got false sources on

Speaker 1 for whatever reason is that we all thought that the Heat were going to have everyone out because of COVID on Wednesday. I got it through some gambling friends.

Speaker 1 You got it through a producer tweeted something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Felgren Mass producer tweeted like a vague emoji that made it seem like two Heat players have COVID and they're not traveling to Miami. And so I and then you said it.

Speaker 1 Right. It was the double sourcing.

Speaker 2 We're going nuclear to the house. And then I just realized that the next day, I woke up on Thursday or Wednesday.
The day has been fucking me up because we did the stream on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 We were all in the studio. Like it was a recording day, but it was actually Wednesday, Firefest.

Speaker 2 But I woke up on Wednesday, like shitting my pants, being like, I don't know what I was thinking because I have to do this live stream and I'm going to be shitting my pants.

Speaker 2 And it's just a stressful, stressful, stressful situation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You don't want to get confident.

Speaker 1 It was the double

Speaker 1 happened. It was backfire.

Speaker 1 We both heard from different sources and then came to the same conclusion. And then it was like, oh, this is going to be easy.
They're going to announce everyone on the heat out.

Speaker 2 Well, when I saw it and I processed it, but didn't really make any action. And then you said it from a separate source.
And I was like, that's confirmation right there. Boom.

Speaker 1 But you guys were right, but for the wrong reasons.

Speaker 2 It was fucking a staffer and a broadcaster and a trainer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they might as well have had COVID the way they shot. Like, that kind of turned out to be true.
They might have long COVID. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, Kyle Lowry, I think that he probably wants him to have COVID, so he doesn't play anymore. Maybe lose some weight.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 it was that bad of a performance. That was mean.
I like Kyle Lowry, but I do think that the

Speaker 1 lack of playing time for him recently. Yeah.
I mean, it's natural. He's always been a big guy.
Yeah, you're going to get a little chubby sometimes. Yeah, he's always been a little bit bigger.

Speaker 1 And they missed Tyler Hero, although Tyler Hero, getting some fits off. Yeah.
Getting some absolute fits off. Last night, he showed up.

Speaker 1 He looked like Machine Gun Kelly mixed with vanilla ice, which is quite a a combination. And he also has an entourage now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tyler Hero just rolls up in games with guys that are like copies of copies of Tyler Hero that just kind of follow him around only to make the original Tyler Hero look better.

Speaker 1 This is what we were robbed of, though, because Tyler Hero almost went to Wisconsin. It would have been hilarious if that was a Wisconsin Badger looking like that.
That would have been very sad.

Speaker 1 He would have been disowned. He would have been excommunicated from the state of Wisconsin and Minnesota for reciprocity.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 Jenna Simpson's court side with her fiancé and she looked great.

Speaker 1 She did look great. And our good friend Brooks.

Speaker 1 You can't say it like that because then people are going to be like, you guys got beef? Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, hey, you say anything,

Speaker 1 any word that we say gets taken into like, oh, fuck, they hate this guy. Wow.
I was mostly making. We do think Kyle Lowry's fat.
Yes, true. But like, no disrespect.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like, fat in a way, like, okay, I get it. That's, that's relatable fat.

Speaker 1 Fat in like in a way, like, if you're, if you're out, like, to dinner with him, him, you're like,

Speaker 1 you're going to do apps and a soup? That kind of fat. Or maybe just one fried app and then get the grilled calamari.
Yeah, like, we don't, no, we don't need dessert. We're good.

Speaker 1 Hey, tell you what, this was a great meal. I don't know if we're going to go with dessert, maybe don't get the milkshake and the chocolate cake at the end.
Fat, like,

Speaker 1 you know. Maybe we don't do family style because you'll eat all of it.
And this is speaking from, you know, obviously my own life.

Speaker 1 And when I see people being like, oh, I don't know about family style, like, you're just going to eat all all of it. We can do the Hungry Man, but maybe not the Hungry Man XXL accommodate.

Speaker 1 You don't need the third tender

Speaker 1 is what we're getting at. Right, but again, kind of fat, no disrespect, no Lowry.
None. So, Hank's gonna be court side, right? Wood? On the wood.
On the wood?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I saw Dave was going.
He hasn't sent me a text. I think if you're not on the window, I'm not on the wood.
I will use game time, the best place for last-minute tickets.

Speaker 2 So I'm waiting because I know last-minute tickets, I can get them through game time.

Speaker 1 But you're trying to get wood.

Speaker 2 I'm just not going to say anything and just pray, but I have a feeling that since the time hasn't come yet, it's a no.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it's a no. I'm going to say that you got your wood out of the way.

Speaker 2 That's fine. Great wood.
Yeah. Best wood of my life.
Yeah. It's

Speaker 1 really high bar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like my

Speaker 2 tell about the wood I've received.

Speaker 1 Ten years ago,

Speaker 1 my boss at the time,

Speaker 1 but it's like a good look charm.

Speaker 2 That's what I was maybe like.

Speaker 8 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 That's not how it works. What I was going to say is when I

Speaker 1 bring me along, we won last time. My boss had sick Bulls tickets, and

Speaker 1 he seasoned tickets, and every year it would be like, all right, like passing out the tickets, and I would just like get the king's game.

Speaker 1 And I'd be like, all right, that's, yeah, no, no, no, that's cool. Like, that's my game.
Yeah, that's fine. Like, that was your game, which is a playoff game, but you're not getting another one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe.
Nah, I think it's enough. Finals? I think they have to put you on the Jumbotron.
You're 1-0. Yeah.
We'll see. Yeah.
We'll see. Maybe in the wood.
What if you promise?

Speaker 1 What if you promise right now to do a hard double fist pump?

Speaker 2 If you're not going to be able to do that. I can't promise anything that was pure emotion.
It was a perfectly normal celebration.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he'll do it again. So are you butter knifing in? There should be a butter knife option on the game time app.
There should be.

Speaker 1 They renovated the stadium.

Speaker 2 The butter knife is gone. The butter knife days are over.

Speaker 1 Really? Rest in peace. Why don't you just try it? Like, people have been saying Hanks lost his fastball.
He's corporate now. He's a sellout.
We all hate him. Like, that stuff.

Speaker 1 People have been saying that stuff.

Speaker 1 Why aren't you saying that? Why don't you prove that you still got your fastball and butter knife your way in?

Speaker 2 I'm down to butter knife in. I'll never forget when I tried when I was an intern, and you and Dave were trying to go to the Blackhawks game, and I was dead serious.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh, I can get you guys in the butter knife.

Speaker 1 Dave was like, what?

Speaker 2 What are you fucking crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, the good thing is since you're flying private, you can bring your own butter knife on the plane. You don't have to check that at TSA.
That's true. That's true.
Yeah. In the corporate jet.

Speaker 1 Jake, where are you at?

Speaker 3 Oh, he's got a chopper.

Speaker 2 He's got a chopper. Seaplane.

Speaker 9 The heat are not looking good. Like, yesterday was very bad.
I think they're banged up. It's not an excuse.
The Celtics have been better the last two games.

Speaker 2 What's a culture update?

Speaker 1 Bad.

Speaker 1 Like, this is a test of the culture.

Speaker 9 Like, no one's, Everyone's saying the series is over.

Speaker 2 Someone said that heat culture was just them being lucky. LeBron likes South Beach.
Oh. I'm not saying that, but.

Speaker 1 Okay. Wow.
Guess what? They got two titles out of it, so who cares what they think? You shouldn't say that anymore. Not one, not two.
I had one person

Speaker 1 who got very mad at me that I implied that other teams might check body fat, not just the heat. They're like, what do you think Jermaine O'Neill said that for? That's heat culture.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley revolutionized basketball. 5% body fat or less.
Like, I'm pretty sure every team's got trainers. Awesome, 5% body fat sounds like that's not enough body fat for a healthy man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What if he gets stuck outside?

Speaker 1 Were the skin calipers just missing that day when Kyle Larry checked in? Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, that's true.
Heat culture just missed him, apparently. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Listen, a team's blown a 3-2 lead in Eastern Conference playoffs this year so far.

Speaker 1 It's happened before. Oh.
The Bucs. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bucks did. So now it's reverse.

Speaker 9 And like Hank said, after game five, you thought it was done.

Speaker 1 And here you are. I would like some confetti, though, Hank, for the studio.
Can you bring back some confetti?

Speaker 1 Yes. Please.
Okay. Please.

Speaker 1 Okay, other sports.

Speaker 2 I feel like we just mushed it, too. Tracy McGrady coming up, but he said something,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 the way he said it,

Speaker 2 I saw visions of a mush, and I saw visions of Old Take exposed.

Speaker 2 I won't spoil it, but.

Speaker 2 Towards the end of the interview. And I was watching it, and I was just like.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 You were watching it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's a great interview. Nice.

Speaker 1 Coming up. Nice.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 hockey. The hockey, Nathan McKinnon was maybe had the greatest goal ever that everyone's going to forget.
That was my big hockey tape. Yeah, it was crazy.
It was

Speaker 1 tape to tape. Coast to coast, like insane goal.
If you just watched the last three seconds of the goal, you'd think it was an insane goal. And then you watch the full clip and you're like, holy fuck.

Speaker 1 But now the Aves and Blues go. We get the one thing that's nice is we get hockey on Friday night, which it would have sucked if that series had ended and we didn't get any hockey on Friday night.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 1 what we can take away from these hockey playoffs is that

Speaker 1 NHL is way better than the NBA right now. Yeah, just like you won.
The hockey games have been incredible.

Speaker 1 Some of them. Some of them have sucked.

Speaker 1 Most of them have been good, though.

Speaker 1 The Lightning Panthers series was a total snooze fest, and people. Well, it's because the Capitals beat the Panthers up so bad.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 But people forget to mention that when they do the NHL NBA debate. But it's NHL.

Speaker 1 Is NHL having a moment well i'm telling you all the all the weirdos on twitter that are hockey fans that are like please like my sport this is the time when you should be high-stepping yeah this is the time when you should be dunking all over the nba all the crazy young talent and like yeah i mean the the battle of alberta has been incredible we talked about at the beginning of the show but it's that series has been insane so yeah the nba just It needs one good series and we just haven't had it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll forget about like all the other bad series. As long as we get a good finals, we'll be like, these playoffs have been awesome.
And we know what we get if we get a good finals.

Speaker 1 We can just keep saying we deserve this, yeah. Like, we like

Speaker 1 it through all of our hard work of sitting on the couch and watching games, we deserve this.

Speaker 1 Well, you can either have one of the two, you can have what we've had this postseason where it's like a shitload of blowouts, but you can't really predict which team is going to blow which team out, or you can go back to last year and you can complain about everybody being injured, but the games are close, right?

Speaker 1 So, I would prefer this one as long as we're making a deal with the devil, that we get at least a couple good finals games out of it. Then it'll be fine.
Yeah, and then we officially deserve it.

Speaker 1 Also, actually, you know what? I'm not prepared to even say that these playoffs have sucked yet because I don't know what the ratings have been. Oh, true.
Good point. We need to look at the ratings.

Speaker 1 I feel like they've been higher. So actually, these are the best NBA playoffs.
I've enjoyed it thoroughly. Yeah.
I just like to watch it with my friends in a party setting, as many people as possible.

Speaker 1 Just grow the game. Yeah.
That's what we're doing this postseason. Okay, let's get to Trace McGrady.
Let's talk a little more basketball with him. And you also hear that clip that Hank alluded to.

Speaker 1 Here he is, Trace McGrady.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on very special guests. You like that clap? You like that clap? Yeah, that kind of threw me off a little bit.
You're very special. Am I? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hall of Famer. Very, very special.
Yeah, Hall of Famer, Tracy McGrady in studio.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 like, one of my favorite basketball players to watch. I appreciate it, bro.
Yeah. And you got,

Speaker 1 so you have a new thing coming out. It's called the

Speaker 1 Ones Basketball League.

Speaker 1 This weekend's going to be in New York. So we're going to air this tomorrow.
It'll be in New York. And then it will be in the DMV, June 4th to 5th, Bay Area, June 11th to 12th.

Speaker 1 And it's essentially one-on-one basketball to figure out who's the best one-on-one basketball player in the country.

Speaker 1 Now, do you realize that you've opened yourself up to just debates constantly of people being like, who could you beat one-on-one?

Speaker 1 That debate has been out there for years. Yeah, just re but like, reignite it.
Like, let's go. Yeah, I love it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 One-on-one is the true essence of basketball. You think so? I know so.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's one-on-one and five-on-five matchups, but one-on-one is the true, pure essence of basketball. I mean, we all grew up playing one-on-one.
Yeah. You know, for me, I just, there's a lot of

Speaker 1 untapped talent out here. You know, everybody can't play in the NBA, right? Everybody can't go across seas and play basketball.

Speaker 1 But when I look at the landscape of basketball player skill, I understand that I've actually play with some of these guys that can't play in the NBA because

Speaker 1 they're probably put in the wrong role, right?

Speaker 1 They can't play in

Speaker 1 a structured system, right, because they need the ball. So if they're a player that needs the ball in their hands, right,

Speaker 1 and a coach puts them in a corner because the other player or other two players are better, these guys get depressed, they get frustrated, and then, and in essence, they get put out of the league.

Speaker 1 And we're talking

Speaker 1 number two, number three, draft picks. Like, this is why these guys can't sustain or stand in the NBA.

Speaker 1 They're in the wrong system. But

Speaker 1 even more so than that, we're talking guys that

Speaker 1 just really never got the opportunity, got overlooked. Maybe something happened along their journey of playing basketball and something deviated them from that course.

Speaker 1 And now they're back to loving the game of basketball. They still play at a high level.
I'm telling you, there are highly skilled guys out here that we don't know about.

Speaker 1 It is, yeah, that is true that like when you see guys who played it's always funny when I see someone who played in college and you realize immediately you're like oh okay it's a totally it's something that it's so fun to just watch like I you know I play in a pickup game it's nothing but there's one guy who played in college yeah and when he comes they're like oh okay yeah that's the difference and we're talking like college to nothing then go up to the NBA it's like a you know obviously a totally different jump and these guys are very very good and so you're highlighting it i love them well the thing is is giving them an opportunity man giving them a platform because i if you might not know there's a lot of underground one-on-one basketball leagues around in in these cities yeah um i'm just giving them a platform to really um

Speaker 1 have these guys make a name for themselves uh sort of like you know ufc ufc gave fighters a platform right we didn't know who these guys were until they got on the UFC platform.

Speaker 1 We know who the basketball players are because we watch them in in college. But fighters, we don't know these guys, right? UFC gave them a platform.
Now they're stars. OBL is creating stars, right?

Speaker 1 These guys' stories need to be told. Their skill set needs to be displayed on a platform to where we actually can watch them and be like,

Speaker 1 he's really good. Yeah.
So let's talk about it, like

Speaker 1 prime T-Mac against Kevin Durant, who wins. Listen, we're talking about one of the greatest scores, two of the greatest scores to play the game.
I was going to say, you?

Speaker 1 I mean, both of us.

Speaker 1 You don't know. We don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm sure KDS says he will win.

Speaker 1 We just don't know. I mean, it's, you know,

Speaker 1 two highly skilled guys. I feel like you back him down.
I feel like you throw a shoulder into him. He falls over.

Speaker 1 Back him down. I mean, he is seven foot guys.
I'm only 6'8. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 Well, that's, I mean, whenever the one-on-one debate happens, I'm very, like, I, I mean, we do the GOAT debate all the time.

Speaker 1 I think Michael Jordan's the best of all time, but I do think that LeBron would beat Prime. LeBron would beat pretty much anyone one-on-one just because of the height and size and the whole skill set.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't think so? No. Oh, okay.
Who then? No, it's.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he will be a problem, but even somebody like Kyrie, despite LeBron's size, Kyrie will be tough for LeBron to even guard in his prime. Right.
Right? We haven't really seen Kyrie's skill set.

Speaker 1 We've seen snippets, but it's hard to really

Speaker 1 display your ultimate skill set in a five-on-five setting. One-on-one, Kyrie, you'll probably see things that you've never seen before.

Speaker 1 Even me, like what I displayed on the NBA, I had more to give in my bag that you guys didn't see. I didn't need to bring that out.
Right, right. I mean, it is, Kyrie is a good answer because

Speaker 1 when he has the ball on a string and he's like going through people, it's insane. And his shot making from all the different angles.
So is it Call Your Own Foul? No, we have refs.

Speaker 1 It would have been great if it was Call Your Own Foul. You just get guys in arguments the whole time.
You know what would have been. Oh, yeah, it would have been terrible.

Speaker 1 It would have been the worst product ever. We wouldn't finish a game.
I'm going to start an OBL.

Speaker 1 It's a fight. Yeah, I'm going to start an OBL that's Call Your Own Foul.
And it just never, we never get past the first round. Nah, yeah,

Speaker 1 we probably wouldn't finish the weekend, bro. Like, somebody will be jacked up.

Speaker 1 It's funny because, like, when you, when you were coming up in the NBA, I remember that was like right when maybe a little bit before the

Speaker 1 N1 mixtape tour got really popular. And I used to always, we used to always have those arguments, like, oh, one-on-one, could the professor beat, you know, like an NBA player or something like that.

Speaker 1 The street ballers that play, obviously, there are different rules when they play. Like, you can get away with a lot.

Speaker 1 There's no carry at all, you know, whatsoever in some of these N1 exhibition things.

Speaker 1 But you can tell that some of the players have like real serious talent and could probably be pretty good, at least offensively, one-on-one.

Speaker 1 Is there any guy like that that you think could compete in a tournament like this?

Speaker 1 I actually think they could because they are highly skilled in terms of their dribbling, shot making ability.

Speaker 1 They would have to adjust or adapt to the rules because, like you said, they get away with a lot of that stuff on the Air One tours, all the carry-in and just,

Speaker 1 you know, it's streetball.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to brand and remarket what one-on-one basketball is. It's not streetball, right? It's so much more to one-on-one basketball.
And I always give this example.

Speaker 1 So if I was a guy that I train for two hours every day, it's two guys, me and this other guy. We train for two hours, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 after my individual training with my trainer, I'm playing one-on-one basketball every single day, right? Every single day. I'm playing one-on-one basketball.

Speaker 1 Well, the other guy, he decides he wants to go and play five-on-five organized basketball, right?

Speaker 1 So whatever we're training and we're going to play, you know, one-on-one or five-on-five, I feel like the one-on-one person is going to have a much more and quicker development because the opportunities that he's getting with the ball, right?

Speaker 1 Trying to, trying to figure it out, trying to figure this defender out, right?

Speaker 1 So he's learning on the fly, right? Figuring out, okay, how do I create space on this guy? How do I do this? How do I do that? Whereas when you're playing five-on-five, the opportunities are limited.

Speaker 1 Like how many shots are you going to get? How many opportunities are you going to get with the ball in your hands for you to actually work on what you was working on with your trainer?

Speaker 1 So your development is going to be a little bit slower. So that's one-on-one to me.
And then the mental aspect of that. You got to be tough as hell to play one-on-one in front of a crowd.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Because

Speaker 1 you're going to get embarrassed at some point. Right.
All right. So this made me think.
So you have one-on-one with the ball in your hands.

Speaker 1 I might start a one-on-one league with the ball out of your hands where it's just guys boxing each other out for an hour and no one gets to touch the ball.

Speaker 1 We work on that skill.

Speaker 1 That's some serious banging, right? This is grinding. Yeah, just like, okay, no, no, no, I like losers when they practice without the ball and we're just running around, like, setting picks.

Speaker 1 That would be a good one-on-one league. A complimentary.
We could maybe start it and do it before your games.

Speaker 1 Have the ice bags and everything lined up on the side because there's going to be a lot of bruises. I've got a good idea.

Speaker 1 You can make it co-ed, and you could have it like in a club environment, and you could have music playing, and they're serving beer. I like that.
And then there's a DJout. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, so you're just boxing. It's just freak dancing.
Yeah, it's freak dancing. Yeah, the professional freak dancing.

Speaker 1 That's a good idea. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 I think one thing about one-on-one that has always separated the men from the boys is who's really good at checking the ball up? Like, I was really fucking good at checking the ball up. The checkup?

Speaker 1 The check-up. Like, I would throw it up.
Don't you throw it it at his chest? I throw it at your foot. I throw it at your foot.
And it would bounce right back to me. And so, is that part of the aspect?

Speaker 1 Have you thought about the guys that are dirty?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, no.
No gimmicks in my league. No gimmicks.
This is all structured. No.
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 So I want to talk about your career because, like I said, I was a big fan of yours.

Speaker 1 The 75. top players that got announced.
I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I actually think that you benefited from it because being outside of of it, because everyone was like, Tracy McGrady should be top 75, and I think you should be, but you got like, if you were 74, yeah, it would have been nice to be acknowledged at halftime, but weirdly, like 76 is better because everyone's like, Where the fuck is T-Mac?

Speaker 1 He's clearly a top 75 guy, and you had everyone kind of standing up for you, which you deserved. So, like, did you see it that way?

Speaker 1 Where it's like, hey, everyone's kind of giving me my flowers, so to speak. Yeah, not in this way.
I did feel that

Speaker 1 my fans had my back in that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It showed me that I had a lot of love out there. But with that said, you know, I don't take away from, you know, anybody that was on that list.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously, when you make a list like that with all the great players that's come through our league, somebody's going to get snubbed. Somebody's going to get left off.

Speaker 1 It's going to leave room for those type of conversations. I just happen to be one of those guys.
I'm in the Hall of Fame. I don't give a shit about that top 75 list.
Like, what is that?

Speaker 1 But yours is stamped in the Hall of Fame. But you were an egregious omission.
Like, Like, I think everyone was like, how is T-Mac not on here?

Speaker 1 I say that for a few of the guys that was left off of that. And Dwight Howard, to me, is

Speaker 1 really the most disrespectful one. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I think that Dwight, like, you know what's actually interesting?

Speaker 1 And I'd love to hear your take on it because you played for a few different teams throughout your career. I think, weirdly, when guys move around, they get discounted a little bit.

Speaker 1 Because, like, they don't, like, guys that stay with one team or maybe their career is two teams, it just feels different than a guy who bounces around.

Speaker 1 Like, Dwight Howard has a Hall of Fame career, but he's bounced around in the second half of his career. And I think people look at it differently when you bounce around.
Well,

Speaker 1 you can't take away the body of work, though. Yeah.
Brother, he

Speaker 1 you can't stay in your prime forever.

Speaker 1 I mean, everybody's not LeBron James. Right.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Everybody can't be LeBron James. He, his prime years was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Like, he was the most Dominic big in our game in his prime years. Yeah.
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 I think you can look at your career and say that at least for a couple of years, you were the best scorer in the NBA. For sure.
And I don't think that's up for debate.

Speaker 1 I think that anybody that has that on their resume, like, you're probably one of the top 75, no-brainer. Yeah.
So to me, it's like,

Speaker 1 what are we basing this off? The individual accomplishments or team accomplishments? Because individually, like some of the guys that's on the list is not touching me on

Speaker 1 what I've accomplished individually.

Speaker 1 Everybody can't play on championship teams throughout their careers. I didn't.
I've not once in my 15-year played on a team that it was like, yeah, they have a good chance of winning it this year.

Speaker 1 Ever. They never said that about any of my teams.
Do you think you would have been a good fit on those Chicago Bulls if they had drafted you? Shit, Michael Jordan still was playing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the trade-offs happened.

Speaker 1 Were you told like that was a realistic possibility? Yeah, well, draft night, before draft night,

Speaker 1 I get a call at 12 o'clock at night. I'm sleeping.
My agent calls me. Hey, get up.
We got a secret location. You got to go take a physical.
I'm like, physical? For what?

Speaker 1 It's like, the Bulls has really considered

Speaker 1 trading you for Scotty Pippen.

Speaker 1 And we drive like an hour outside of Charlotte, go to the clinic. They take me in the back door, sneak in,

Speaker 1 do my physical. Next morning,

Speaker 1 the trade is not going to happen. I'm like, okay.
Like,

Speaker 1 I didn't feel it was going to happen anyway because it didn't make sense to me. Right.
You're still winning championships. Scotty Pippen is top 50 all time.

Speaker 1 Why the hell are you going to trade him for a rookie? Not only a rookie, but a guy coming out of high school. Just didn't make sense.
So

Speaker 1 you do have some incredible what-ifs in your career. Oh, my gosh.
Is there one? So, so, like, you, you know, there was rumors that you were going to be traded to the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.

Speaker 1 There was the AI. You were going to go to Philly and then Stephen A.
Smith ruined that one.

Speaker 1 Tim Duncan getting trade, signing with the magic when, you know, he was a free agent. Yow's just health.
Is there one, though, that you're like, man, if that one had gone differently,

Speaker 1 that would have been it? Well,

Speaker 1 one, for sure.

Speaker 1 Two, I'm not quite sure. I got to get confirmation, but I'll tell you about the one, Grant Hill.
Yeah. Like, if Grant Hill was healthy,

Speaker 1 you know, even without Grant Hill and playing that Detroit Pistons team, we were up 3-1 on them, right? And they were the number one seed.

Speaker 1 Healthy Grant Hill, I make it to the NBA Finals

Speaker 1 with Orlando Magic. Going back to the other one with Tim Duncan,

Speaker 1 there was rumors that he didn't sign because Doc Rivers didn't allow your spouse to travel on road games on a plane. And that was a deal-breaker for him.

Speaker 1 And I, again, I, I, that's confirmation that I have to get. I saw Doc confirmed it a little bit.

Speaker 1 He said that, well, he said that he told Tim that not every game that you can have your family on the plane. You can't, don't say that to Tim Duncan.
And then, yeah, and that, and then the story goes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell the man what he wants. Yeah, I feel like that's a rule.
You see what I mean? It's not like you're letting him stay out till like 5.30 in the morning at night.

Speaker 1 He just wants to be around his family more. It's like, okay, I think I can make a better sales.
You got to do a better salesperson.

Speaker 1 Well, so that was the big part of the story that that Doc said is that he had a meeting with Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan was like, I'm pretty sure I'm signing with the Magic.

Speaker 1 He's like, I got to go talk to Pop one last time. And then Calapari called Doc and was like, did you get him? And he's like, yeah, I think we got him.
He's just got to go talk to Pop.

Speaker 1 He's like, no, you don't have him, man. It's over.
Like,

Speaker 1 because Pop and David Robinson flew from Hawaii to have a meeting with Tim Duncan and sold him. Like, don't let him leave the building.
No, you're right. Give him everything he wants.

Speaker 1 Every single thing. That's a great NBA what if.

Speaker 1 Because the magic would have with the three of you guys would have been, it would have been crazy.

Speaker 8 The two of us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the two of you. But like if Grant, you know,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 we would have created a dynasty for sure. In those playoffs, do you regret saying like

Speaker 1 we already advanced the next round against the Pistons? Because you kind of started the Pistons dynasty by giving that bulletin board material. I honestly don't remember saying that.

Speaker 1 All right, so then you did.

Speaker 1 I don't remember saying that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I had the interview last week, and somebody brought that up. I was like, bro, show me the footage where I said that.

Speaker 1 I don't remember saying it. I think you said something like, it's good to get to the second round.
You might have implied that. I've heard someone say that.
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 We're talking, what, 2003,

Speaker 1 almost 40 years ago.

Speaker 1 That's Tim Duncan, what if, though? And then

Speaker 1 the AI one, like Stephen A. Smith, have you ever talked to him about that? Because the story goes that you're going to be traded to the Sixers.
For Larry Hughes.

Speaker 1 And like, probably one of the most dynamic backcourts ever with you and

Speaker 1 AI. And then Stephen A.
Smith leaked it 24 hours before, and then they got cold feet and didn't do it. So Stephen A.
Smith screwed that up.

Speaker 1 Stephen A. you screw up.

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Speaker 1 I know you get this question all the time, but the pants. Oh, so we can talk about all the pants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, yeah. So, if you haven't seen Tracy McGrady, the most ridiculous pair of pants I've ever seen in my entire life.
So, here's what happened on that, right?

Speaker 1 There's no, there, no, no shame in my game at all. So, throughout my career, you have these

Speaker 1 guys that make suits

Speaker 1 want you as a client. So, they'll make your first suit free for you, right? So, I

Speaker 1 in my closet, I have a bunch of suits.

Speaker 1 I know I'm going to make an appearance on NBA TV. I don't think about it.
I just go in my closet. I grab a suit.
Right? Okay. Grab a suit.
I'm off. Did you get dressed at home? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I'm traveling the night before.

Speaker 1 I go to Atlanta. I'm in the studio.
I put on my suit. I'm like, damn.
I hope I don't have to stand up during a segment. Just sit behind the desk.
So you knew. You knew.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 For sure, I knew. I was like, you're wearing a parachute on your legs.
Dude, they were huge. They were huge.
I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 We got a stand-up segment?

Speaker 1 Like, not only are they wide, but they're long, too. Yeah, they're interested in shopping every way.
You're a tall man, and they're built for someone who's over eight feet tall.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were built for like the Ken Bay Mutumbo or somebody, not me. But yeah, the pants were swallowing me, and

Speaker 1 the clip went viral. So

Speaker 1 when they asked you to stand up, were you like,

Speaker 1 can we just stick this shit? Dude,

Speaker 1 I don't care. It's pants.
So who cares? It's one of the funniest pictures. Yeah, like, come on, man.

Speaker 1 That stuff doesn't bother me. Even with it going viral doesn't bother me.
I actually got, I laughed at it myself. Yeah, I mean, you can't not look at that picture and be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 What are these pants?

Speaker 1 That's the worst visual that you've ever had. You're doing pretty good.
It was funny. It's just like, I wore a big pair of pants once.

Speaker 1 Next time you go on TV, you should get even bigger. That's my claim to shame.
Yeah, but you should do that. You should keep getting your pants bigger and bigger.
I might start a trend.

Speaker 1 Just keep going re-viral. I might start a trend.
Sinkers are are coming back. Yeah.
Next time you're on TV, get the biggest pants you've ever seen. If I do that and shit starts to take off,

Speaker 1 I'm going to give you a cut of that. Yeah, yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 1 You could even make it like viral on Twitter and be like, for every thousand retweets this tweet gets, I'm going to wear bigger pants. I'm going to wear one inch bigger.

Speaker 1 It's getting bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 And then everyone's like, yo, what's with the pants? Like, what do you mean? They're pants. They're pants.
Are you going to make fun of my pants? What's with your pants?

Speaker 1 What makes fun of another man's pants?

Speaker 1 I think we're onto something, guys.

Speaker 1 I loved it, though. That was an all-time, all-time clip.

Speaker 1 The other question I had, the 13 points in 33 seconds. How often do you watch that clip? I don't.
What?

Speaker 1 Can we watch it? I'll tell you a true story. Okay.

Speaker 1 Probably 10 years went by before I ever watched that game again.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that is still one of the coolest things. If you've never seen it, just Google Trace McGrady, 13 points, 33 seconds.

Speaker 1 It's funny, too, watching it because it's like a different NBA where it was the there was you know 40 seconds left in the game and the score was like 74, 68, 66, or something.

Speaker 1 It's like, wait, what? This is the score right now, but you just like, did you feel it? Were you like, I cannot miss right now? Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 just, you know, the will to take over a game and see what happens. I actually, even before that, almost got close to doing that before

Speaker 1 of having one of those miracle comebacks.

Speaker 1 It was a moment, man. I felt it.
And

Speaker 1 as you could see on the game winner, I knew it was good. And I was looking for my spot dribbling down the left side of the court, looking for my spot.

Speaker 1 I knew I was going to make that. Like, the basket seemed so big.
It was magical moment. How often did that happen in your career? Like, where it was the basket feeling that big?

Speaker 1 I'm obsessed with the idea of guys being in the zone in basketball because it's got to be the coolest feeling.

Speaker 1 You have no idea. like

Speaker 1 when you have that feeling that every shot you take feels like it's going in

Speaker 1 you at defenders are at my mercy yeah right when you have that type of feel there there's literally nothing you can do when someone feels that way and so how many times do you think like oh what happened i had it a lot really i had it a lot bro it the year i averaged 20 32 points i was having 20 points by halftime damn near every game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because I was just, I was in a zone that whole season.
So you had an extended zone.

Speaker 1 Could you feel like the nights coming when you were like, tonight is going to be a good night? I can already tell. I can pre-tell that I'm going to be in the zone later on tonight.
For sure. Because

Speaker 1 I feel fresh. I feel good.
I feel like I'm going to jump out of the gym tonight. Right.
My body just feels loose.

Speaker 1 And playing in Orlando in that type of weather, you get that. But playing in Toronto,

Speaker 1 shit. Oh, I got to go throw out.
Let me go go into Sauner's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because even before you get to work, sometimes you have to like scrape off your car and shit. That's the most annoying thing about the cold weather.

Speaker 1 Like, if you don't live in cold weather, you don't understand that you have to wake up an extra hour early to take care of all the stuff around it, and that throws off the rest of your day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's tough to play in cold weather. Yeah, it is.
That Raptors team, though, with Vince Carter, when you guys were both like, you know,

Speaker 1 it was like, you know, breath of fresh air, like both these guys, cousins, which you didn't find out you were cousins until you got drafted, right? That was weird.

Speaker 1 How did that go down?

Speaker 1 My senior year,

Speaker 1 I moved to Durham, North Carolina to go to high school, finish out my high school career up there just to get the exposure because they traveled nationwide. Vince was obviously at UNC, and that's like

Speaker 1 20 minutes apart, 15, 20 minutes apart, I think. I used to go over there and play against those guys in the summertime.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I went.

Speaker 1 I knew Vince because I played on the junior team Florida team and he played on the senior team Florida. So I used to play before him.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'll go over there to UNC. He let me use his locker and I think this was like a Thursday, Friday.
I told him I won't be here. I'm going back home to attend a family reunion.
He's like, cool.

Speaker 1 I'll see you when you get back. I get to my family reunion, sitting down talking shit.
My grandmother tells me, she introduced me to a cousin. I was like, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 She was like, hey, my grandson plays college basketball. I was like, yeah, who does he play for? And she was like, he plays for UNC.
I was like, North Tar Hills?

Speaker 1 And she was like, yeah. I was like, who is he? She was like, Vince.
She called him Vincent. She was like, Vincent.
I was like, Vince Carter?

Speaker 1 She was like, yeah. I say, please call him right now.
He's going to freak out. I said, I was just with him the other day.

Speaker 1 So she calls him and, you know, I get on the phone, excited. What up, cuz?

Speaker 1 He's like, Who the hell is this? This is Mac, man. Mac?

Speaker 1 What is T-Mac?

Speaker 1 He's like, What you doing on my grandma's song? I say, bro, you ain't gonna believe this. I say, she's at the family union.
We're family, bro. That's incredible.
Holy shit. That's how we found out.

Speaker 1 Just like that. And then you guys play in the raptors together.
We play on the raptors. Like, it was crazy.
I used to watch it.

Speaker 1 Like, in my high school, my, you know, ninth, tenth grade year, that's all I heard about him floor was Vince Carter. Right.
Vince freaking Carter. He was incredible, not knowing that was my cousin.

Speaker 1 That's insane. So you get up to Durham, and obviously you're a highly sought-after recruit after, I think you had like a big performance at one of the summer camps, right? ABCD? ABCD.

Speaker 1 So after, you know, you're like one of the top recruits in the country, I have to imagine that Coach K was stopping by a lot, knocking on your door, given that you're just in town.

Speaker 1 Was he like swinging by with a bag, dropping off, being like,

Speaker 1 not

Speaker 1 a bag, he's not a bag. How much money did Coach K offer you to go to school at duke university he offered me a full scholarship full ride

Speaker 1 yeah four ride scholarship that's and i got all four ride plus i i got four rides from everyone yeah there was a couple of bags you know maybe on the side somewhere yeah i mean coach k obviously you made you made the correct decision i think going to the nba uh and capitalizing there but i was going to ask about like do you do you feel like you missed out on the college experience well i did miss out on it i don't think you know only time I feel, you know, left out is during March Madness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because that's the only time because everybody is rooting for their team. They have a dog in the fight.

Speaker 1 I feel like I have a dog in the fight because I was going to Kentucky, so that's who I root for, my Wildcats.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Yeah.
You should just do it. Yeah, do what LeBron does.
LeBron, I think, claims Ohio State, Duke. You can claim Florida NC, USC, UCLA.
I'm a Wildcats. Akron.
I'm a Wildcat.

Speaker 1 When it comes to basketball, I'm a Kentucky Wildcat. Football, I'm a Florida guy, so you know I got to go with the Seminoles.
Okay, okay, that's fair. But yeah, that's, I mean,

Speaker 1 when you made that transition,

Speaker 1 it is crazy to think that now guys can't do that. I think it's going to come back where guys can go straight from high school to the pros.

Speaker 1 But when you showed up the first day, were you like, uh-oh, this is different? Or did you have that confidence? Like, hey, I belong right here. I felt like I belong.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 played against NBA players even prior to getting drafted. Like, I played against these guys, so I know I can hold my own.

Speaker 1 It's just really understanding, okay, I got to understand how the NBA game works. Okay, what do I need to work on? Certain things I got to work on this year and maybe add something next year.

Speaker 1 But it was just all about, okay, how do I,

Speaker 1 you know, figure this game out to be, you know, have some sort of impact in my rookie season. It was

Speaker 1 very, very tumultuous and just, you know, a tough freaking rookie year with the coach that I had.

Speaker 1 It was no structure. I wasn't being taught the game.
Like, it was like I had to figure that out on my own. We was always bumping heads.
It was very tough my first half of my rookie year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's also a tough thing to ask an 18-year-old to do is to like move to a different country. Oh, gosh, yes.
And you're on your own and also here's millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 Like, I would have gone missing. I'm sure of that.

Speaker 1 I was not equipped when I was 18 years old to deal with something like that. For you,

Speaker 1 was there a period where you were like,

Speaker 1 this is too much? Did you have to have somebody that you brought up there to help you out with that entire transition period? You know what?

Speaker 1 Kobe was my guy, man, to

Speaker 1 lean on him because he went through it the previous year in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 It was just a very frustrating rookie year. So I leaned on him a lot my rookie season just to help me get through it because

Speaker 1 I was on a young team and I felt like i should have been playing on that young team we only won 16 games that year guys right right like we were we were a very bad team and i got drafted ninth overall like why not teach me the game and and throw me out there if you know you're grooming me to be the franchise player for this team it's it's also funny because i read a story beforehand uh this interview where it's like yeah t-mac his rookie year he just slept a lot like 20 hours a day it was too cold outside well and it's funny because it's like your initial reaction when you see that like oh, he slept a lot, like, oh, he didn't want it.

Speaker 1 He's lazy. No, no, he was literally a teenager whose body was still growing.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that part, like, it didn't dawn on me until I read it. I was like, wait, no, that's what teenagers do.

Speaker 1 They sleep because their body is literally changing, and you're in the NBA, but I got knocked for it, though. Yeah, he's lazy.
All he does is sleep. He does it.

Speaker 1 Remember yourself at 18, like you would just sleep all day if you could. And I took advantage of that.
I slept. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 All right. So today's NBA.

Speaker 1 Have you been watching any of the playoffs? Catching a little bit? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who do you like, what guy are you watching these playoffs where you're like, wow, this guy is, you know, this is his playoffs where he's taking another step?

Speaker 1 Or it might be even like Stephen, what the Warriors are doing resurgence-wise. Has there been one guy that you're like, damn, this guy's going to own the league for a while?

Speaker 1 My favorite player is Jimmy Butler. Okay.
Right. Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 1 I know his story because I am from Houston. Jimmy Butler's from Houston.
And

Speaker 1 his journey, the path that he was on is just an incredible path. And to see what he is today as a basketball player, I have the utmost respect for

Speaker 1 that guy in terms of his work ethic, what he's built himself up to be as a basketball player and as a person. I mean, amazing accomplishments in his career.
And what he's doing is just,

Speaker 1 you have no choice but to get behind and root for somebody like that. And he's an incredible basketball player, but he wasn't born with, see, me, I was born with a natural ability, natural skill set.

Speaker 1 Like, you could drop, God just dropped me on this earth, like, son, you could play baseball, basketball, football, pick your choice of what you want to do. Like, that was me as a kid.

Speaker 1 Like, I could do anything without, I could throw a football 60 yards, right? I could throw a baseball 85 in high school, 88 miles per hour, right? I could catch a football. I ran a freaking 4-4, 4-5,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 And I could play basketball.

Speaker 1 This was without practicing anything. He just dropped me and gave me all this talent.
Jimmy Buller, I don't think it was like that. I think he had to work his ass off to get to where he is today.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I appreciate that. And he's my favorite player.
I love watching him.

Speaker 8 That's good.

Speaker 1 And it's fun to watch. What about the teams that are left right now? Are the Mavericks done or are they finished? They're both.

Speaker 1 We're going to run this tomorrow, so I would assume the Warriors probably finished it.

Speaker 1 I was telling this to some of my guys. This is what teams do.

Speaker 1 And it's not,

Speaker 1 they don't sit in a locker room or on the bus or on the plane and talk about this. But when you know you could beat a team,

Speaker 1 right? When you know you got them. Oh, we got them.
So they up three on.

Speaker 1 Game four is in Dallas. Game five is back in

Speaker 1 Golden State, right?

Speaker 1 They took a night off game four. Hey, let's make them travel all the way back out to the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 Take that flight. We'll blow their ass out and they got to take a lonely trip all the way back to Dallas.

Speaker 1 They're playing with their food before they eat it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It happens. It happened to me before.
Utah did us like that one year. We didn't have Yow.
We won game five, had to travel all the way to Utah, and they blew our ass out. Game six series over with.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen tonight. You've got to believe it's over with.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 I do agree with that. I do think they're going to beat them handily tonight.
But it's funny to hear that. Because there is that human element of sports where

Speaker 1 even it's hard to sweep teams because teams have pride, but also on the other side where teams are like, all right, we got you. It doesn't matter.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll give partial half effort tonight. See if we can steal one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they almost did steal one. They came back and cut it to like eight where it's like, all right, we'll try for like five minutes here, see if we can close the league.

Speaker 1 it's probably gonna be another blowout it's probably gonna be like a 12 15 point golden state win and so do you like the you like the celtics yeah you think the heat can come back no it's over

Speaker 1 it's over it's over friday night celtics will be um making an appearance into the nba finals and then and you know jalen brown is my little bro um you know i trained him a couple times and uh he's looking Really, really good.

Speaker 1 Have you worked with his dribbling? Because there's times when it looks like he doesn't know how to dribble

Speaker 1 but then there's times

Speaker 1 on wednesday night he was like the second half he was incredible he's been phenomenal he's been phenomenal in these playoffs he's getting better and better so um but no i got the celtics but they're playing a wounded wounded team i know kyle larry's not healthy hero is not healthy what it what a lot of people are making a big deal of like the every other night and you know a lot of times the media will be like well they're they're pros they should be able to play every other night what does it do to your body though when you're playing in a series and you're playing every every other night?

Speaker 1 Like, is the bounce back really that hard? It's tough.

Speaker 1 The longer the Siri goes,

Speaker 1 the more tired

Speaker 1 I think your body is, especially every other night. It's pretty tough.
If you're a guy that's playing 40 minutes, that's tough later as you get in these series.

Speaker 1 If you're like the main guy, you know, the playmaker, the defensive stopper,

Speaker 1 you know, the scorer for the team.

Speaker 1 It's a lot on your your body. Is it easier on you if you're younger? Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, like, these guys can run all day.
Like, they don't feel that.

Speaker 1 But, you know, when you're in year eight, 10, you feel it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're not sleeping as much at that point.

Speaker 1 You're a little older. Yeah.
Very little sleep. Body is aching.
Waking up in the morning. The Achilles is tight.
Back is tight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was going back. I was watching some of your highlights because there were a few that were like significant, like iconic highlights.

Speaker 1 My favorite shot, my favorite jump shot you ever had was one where you started with the ball down like at shin level and you just pulled it up over your head. Can't even pull it back.

Speaker 1 KD does that now. Yeah, you taught him that, right? I didn't teach him.

Speaker 1 Well, he probably watched the film, but yeah. Yeah, and then the other

Speaker 1 there are just a bunch of dunks that you put out there. Do you have a favorite dunk of all time? I don't have a favorite one of all time.
I know a lot of people like the

Speaker 1 Sean Bradley one.

Speaker 1 I have some good ones. I don't know.

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Speaker 1 You mentioned different sports. You played baseball.
I did. Like you then, you tried to

Speaker 1 you went in. Did you go into a game in a minor league game recently? Or was that...

Speaker 1 Did you pitch in a minor league game?

Speaker 1 no i played minor league baseball yeah yeah okay so back in 2014 yeah yeah 2014 recently yeah so i guess 2014 would be recently in my mind but that's not recently but yes so how did you do and like that's crazy that you can just pick up what a you know like you said the natural ability to just play every sport that's why i was telling you i i was blessed with god gibbons talent um i didn't do so well but i was i didn't do awful like i was throwing strikes i got a strikeout in an all-star game um how fast are you throwing i was throwing like 87.

Speaker 8 In 2014,

Speaker 1 it's crazy, yeah. I haven't played since 1996.
Right. Right? Nuts.
So to go out there, and

Speaker 1 I remember us playing the Long Island Ducks, right? And it was this guy that played Major League Baseball. And I was pitching against him.

Speaker 1 I knew who he was from my teammates telling me I blew up his bat. And that was like the thing.

Speaker 1 Just walk off and be like, I could have done this if I wanted to. I blew up his bat.

Speaker 1 And I didn't know, like, if you throw on, you're a pitcher and you break someone's back, like, that is a thing for the pitcher. So they were giving me my problem.
I was like, oh, you blew up his bat.

Speaker 1 He was a major league baseball player. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what that means. Did you have to hit? They wouldn't.
My coach would. No, Gary Gaiety was my manager.
He didn't allow me to hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty big strike zone if you had to hit. He didn't allow me to hit.
Yeah. That would have been.
And MBP, I'm cracking them out. Really? 400.
Yeah. God, how many pitches was it?

Speaker 1 Were you just throwing fastballs or were you throwing it? No, I was throwing fast sliders. I was throwing a change up.
Yeah. My change up because my hands are so big, I can't do the circle change.

Speaker 1 So I hold the ball like this loosely and throw it as hard as I can and it'll take like 10 miles off.

Speaker 1 That must be nice. Must be nice.
I wish I could go up there and just throw, like, after not throwing a baseball for 15 years, just go up there and burn 190. Yeah.
Yeah, it would be really nice.

Speaker 1 All right, so the OBL, check it out. I heard you're playing whoever wins.
You're playing them one-on-one. I'm done.
Cooked. I heard that that was finished.

Speaker 1 I heard that you were going to play for the final championship. What you say? Are you done or are you finished? Yeah.
That's me.

Speaker 8 I can show you how to check up the ball real dirty.

Speaker 1 You'll never get beat. I need that tactic.

Speaker 1 That's pretty nice. Throw it.

Speaker 2 Hey, what's that over there?

Speaker 1 And then you check it back to him and then you get the ball back. You got all the tricks.
Yeah, I mean, when you suck, you have to get good at it. You got to find some way.

Speaker 1 You got to do something else, right? You got to find advantages, huh? Right. Well, Tracy, thank you so much.
We really appreciate it. Thank you.
Top 75 in our book. Appreciate you, bro.

Speaker 1 Thank you for allowing me on your platform. Thank you, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Hank, what's your Fire Fest?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know how serious I want to get

Speaker 1 with our relationship, but I have another one. We're good, dude.

Speaker 2 We're good. Ticket hates me, but that's

Speaker 2 a conversation for a separate day.

Speaker 1 I do not hate you at all. I'm like, I miss you.
I miss you. You have meetings all the time.
I miss my friends. See, the thing is,

Speaker 1 you just give me the death stare. The thing is, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're not one of us anymore. It's true.
What does that mean? It's all rooted in a place of love where we're

Speaker 1 mad that you don't love us back anymore.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So this is defense mechanism.

Speaker 2 I was like, you should do this, and then now it makes me regret it every day of my life.

Speaker 1 No, fuck that. That's not true.
Now I got to say nice things to you. I already said nice things to you.

Speaker 1 You're doing a great job, honey.

Speaker 1 Sweetie,

Speaker 1 I love you so much. I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 My fire festival.

Speaker 1 When you come down and you try to pretend like you're one of the guys still, it makes me want to throw up in my mouth.

Speaker 1 It's tough. I'm going through that.
Hank was waiting. I'm going through an identity crisis.
Hey, yeah, you are. Hey, that's okay, though.

Speaker 1 Hank was waiting at the doorway this morning as we were on our way into the studio.

Speaker 1 He was standing there and he just stuck his fist out and he was fist bumping us when we were coming in, like the last guy, like the last security guard when an NBA team is going out and hunting the court.

Speaker 1 He was like, let's go, guys. Let's have a good show today.
Have a good show. Never once in the history of part of my take has Hank done that.
Yeah. Well, usually I'm not sure if you guys are.

Speaker 1 We're just not like what's going on right now.

Speaker 2 I'm like trying to figure out, you know, like, I don't know. It's like...

Speaker 1 We thought there was a hidden camera. We're like, are we getting pranked right now? What is he doing?

Speaker 2 It's like I graduated in three years and I come back to college and everyone's still living their life, doing their thing. And I'm like, kind of like...

Speaker 1 So you're better than this. Yeah, you're better than that.
Or like, whatever. I dropped out.
I dropped out.

Speaker 1 It's like you go back to hang out with the boys and they all like, nobody's got a job and they're still like living with their parents.

Speaker 1 I was a year older.

Speaker 1 I can't drink six nights a week anymore, guys. It's time we grow up.
That's kind of how I feel like when I go down in this world.

Speaker 1 It was great seeing my boys, boys, but holy shit, they live like fucking animals. I would never want to go back there.

Speaker 2 No, it's like, I do want to come back, but when I come back, I just like, I open the room and the music turns off, records scratch, and everyone just stares at me like, what the fuck are you doing here?

Speaker 1 Who brought the cop? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you are your upper management. What do you want us to say?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 My real firefest.

Speaker 1 These pubs were so, they definitely threw me. It was really weird.
It's like, what's going on?

Speaker 8 I thought he was going to lock us in the room and there would be no air left.

Speaker 1 And he'd just like keep us shut in there and we would all die.

Speaker 2 It was like, I was coming down to hang out, and then Big Cat was like, You never come down to hang out, and then I was like, That's I came down to hang out, and I got shamed for it.

Speaker 2 Everything I do, it's shame.

Speaker 1 You know what, Hank? We're gonna have a great time at Top Gun.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm excited for that. Um,

Speaker 1 I can't go, my son's sick.

Speaker 2 My fire, my firefest is

Speaker 1 I got spoofed or

Speaker 1 boofed, you got boofed. I don't even, I can't think.
You got spoofed, my brain isn't working.

Speaker 2 Uh, I got pranked, or I got you can't, yeah.

Speaker 1 i mean this is this is the creative side your brain doesn't spook doesn't exist anymore faked out i bet if we just put a if we put if we put like a bunch of bagels and and coffee out on the table and we're like hey welcome to the 9 a.m meeting your brain would turn right back on catfished not kind of catfished tom brady posted a video

Speaker 2 you got j-macked i got j-macked i got j-macked hard i don't know what i was thinking

Speaker 2 He posted a video where it's like a drone shot. It looks like he hits like a whatever 200 yard

Speaker 1 Hold it out.

Speaker 2 And I saw it and was like, holy shit, this is the greatest shot of all time. Reposted on my Instagram.

Speaker 2 And then every single person, like, I had people text me and be like, there's no way you think that's real, right? And then I watched it a couple more times.

Speaker 2 Was like, this is clearly the most fake video of all time.

Speaker 1 I thought it was real. Really? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was like, because I watched it once. I was scrolling through Instagram.
You thought they just happened to have the perfect drone shot of the perfect golf shot?

Speaker 1 If they're droning every single one of his shots, it's not that crazy. Like, he does, all his stuff is videotaped all the time now.
So I scrolled through, saw it, didn't even think twice about it.

Speaker 1 I think that's bullshit that he's faking that. Hank's like, I can't believe that Tom Brady threw a football at the moon and it turned into Bitcoin.
That was crazy. But I also.

Speaker 2 Right. That's what my initial reaction was like, this is real.
And then I was thinking about the past videos he's posted, which were also fake, and it was like, duh.

Speaker 1 But I don't think you should apologize for that, Hank, because I think that it's, I never want to be a person who everything I see is like, that's fake.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would suck. He's my hero.
You know, I want to believe him.

Speaker 1 I still think that those old NFL fantasy football videos where like it was Braylon Edwards catching footballs blindfolded. Chris Cooley through the drywall.

Speaker 1 Michael Vick throwing the football out of the stadium. I still think that those were those are real.

Speaker 1 There should be a law that you can't fake something that is conceivably real like that because

Speaker 1 again, it just sucks to be online where everything is like, oh, fake, that's fake, that's rigged, that's fake.

Speaker 8 That sucks.

Speaker 1 Agreed. It's a terrible life to live.
Agreed. Except that one was just obviously fake, though.
But I like watching it for two seconds.

Speaker 3 It was a sick video, though.

Speaker 2 If it was real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe the greatest golf shot ever.

Speaker 1 And drone shots. I agree with

Speaker 1 the golf film shot. Those new drone shots are like getting cooler and cooler.
The one we did in the office, it seemed like something similar to that. And I just watched it.

Speaker 1 I scrolled it and I was like, oh, that's cool. And they sold it really well.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's my Firefest.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Good Fire Fest. Thanks.
A plus.

Speaker 2 Also, I left my Apple Watch at home.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's tough. Also,

Speaker 2 a quick Apple Watch discussion blows my mind. I'm new to the Apple Watch life.
It is a corporate move, and

Speaker 2 I joined the ranks. Jake Marsh wears his in the shower, and it blows my mind every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do too. It's waterproof, right? Yeah, remember that was my firefight before.
You have to put on the teardrop thing.

Speaker 1 I'm way too scared of it. You don't have to touch it.
I check my messages in the shower. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Sometimes you could voice text in the shower.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Not me.

Speaker 1 Really? No, I'm scared. You never had a waterproof watch before?

Speaker 2 I just break things all the time. So it's like, yeah, bringing technology in the shower just doesn't really make sense to me.

Speaker 2 I get that there's a feature to prevent it, but I'm not buying it.

Speaker 1 Apple Watches, in my opinion, ruined academia because literally they're the number one thing used to cheat.

Speaker 2 Yep, no one was cheating before Apple Watches.

Speaker 1 I know, but

Speaker 1 it's so much easier. How do you cheat using an Apple Watch? You can get people to text you stuff and text them back without anyone knowing.

Speaker 1 Can't the teacher be like, why are you you just looking at your watch throughout this entire test? No, because it's so much easier to hide.

Speaker 1 It's just rampant uses. I've never had an Apple Watch.

Speaker 1 I wanted to buy one just because it would have been so much easier. Billy was a huge academia fan before the Apple Watch came along

Speaker 1 and ruined everything. Now there's no integrity in customer.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Okay, PFT, your Firefest innocence back.
My Fire Fest is that

Speaker 1 I've had two years, two and a half years, to prepare, and I haven't done shit to improve myself for the XFL tryouts that I just found out are going to be in October with Nick Novak, the former NFL kicker.

Speaker 1 He's running the XFL trials for special teams. And I've been saying, oh, I've got two and a half years.
Oh, I've got two years. I've got a year and a half left.
I've got a year left.

Speaker 1 I'll start to work and I'll start to get in shape. I haven't kicked a football since I got cut from the XFL.
So you retired? No, I retired from the NFL. Right.
Are you retiring from the XFL?

Speaker 1 I'm considering retiring from the XFL. You got to do a press conference.
I'm going to, I will be doing a press conference to announce my decision.

Speaker 1 I'm going to talk with my family, and I'm going to figure out what's best for the future. If there is a future for a 37-year-old in the XFL, people are saying that there might not be.

Speaker 1 Also, there's something in

Speaker 1 the paperwork that you have to fill out saying that you had to play college football within the last five years.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they count in CAA football like on Xbox. I'm gonna find out.

Speaker 1 I've got my agents and representatives reaching out to find out the details behind that or if maybe there's a fake college that

Speaker 1 I can enroll in in order to qualify for the XFL. But

Speaker 1 I think I'm gonna make my decision in the next two weeks because the summer's coming up. Yeah, you can't

Speaker 1 let yourself.

Speaker 1 If the tryout was gonna be like in March, then I could be like, all right, yeah, I can, you know, during the wintertime, I'll work out and I'll do some kicking. But like, this is summer.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna be at the the beach. Yeah.
I don't want to sacrifice my entire summer just to get good at kicking footballs.

Speaker 1 So I'll be thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I'm considering all options that are all on the table right now.

Speaker 3 Whatever you do, we support you.

Speaker 1 I'm following my heart. I'm following my heart right now, guys.
So

Speaker 1 thank you for your thoughts. Okay.

Speaker 1 We support you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 All right. My firefest is I miss Hank.

Speaker 1 That's it. The old Hank? The old Hank.

Speaker 1 No, my real Fire Fest is I woke up today and I found out I have the softest hands at Barstool. That's why he's been pissed this whole time.
No, Billy.

Speaker 1 That's why the vibes have been off. It was the first thing that Big Cat sent to me.
Dude, literally, literally. So here's what happened.
So I got better.

Speaker 1 PFT told me about this, which makes it even funnier. I guess on the group text in Macro Dosing, Billy sent his hands and Arian said, your hands are soft.

Speaker 1 And Billy just immediately goes, Big Cat's hands are soft. No, no, no.
He said that. No, no, no.
He said that Drake, the rapper, had some of the softest hands.

Speaker 1 I'll walk through Ariana. Because I don't believe in any success.

Speaker 1 So on Macrodosing yesterday, we were talking with Arian, and he was saying how one time he dapped up Drake, and he was like, Drake has the softest hands that ever shake in my life.

Speaker 1 He's like, I dapped him up twice over the course of like a seven-year span, and they're crazy soft, like weirdly soft. And then Billy sent a picture of

Speaker 1 his hands to the group chat because we're talking about getting lead stuck in your hand. And then Arian was like, yo, Billy, you've got some soft fucking hands.
And he got shot.

Speaker 1 And then Billy was like, actually, like, Loki, you know who has the softest hands? This is crazy. And then, what? Yes.
How crazy is this? And then, and then I was like, Billy, don't say it.

Speaker 1 And then he texted the group chat. I was like, I would not say this out loud because you literally just never said that.
For no reason.

Speaker 1 He just

Speaker 1 got soft hands. Coley said it.
I was like,

Speaker 1 I have soft hands? Yeah. I haven't seen Coley in like six.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Coley read Billy's text.
I literally wanted to cut it from the show because I knew he just had to. I actually do have soft hands.
I have blogger hands. I've lived a a life of blogging.

Speaker 1 The funny part to me

Speaker 1 Billy thinks that he has like coal miner hands. Dude, I love it.
Captain Kahn's went and looked at him and my

Speaker 1 hands don't even have calluses. Bro, I have calluses.
You can see them. Let me see.
You can see them on my hands.

Speaker 1 So Billy pretending that he's like this hard-working blue-collar guy is amazing. Look, I'm not here to say I'm that, but like, I have a resume that like he worked construction for his dad.
So

Speaker 8 before he worked six years ago, I worked like

Speaker 1 a summer. Billy,

Speaker 1 did you wear gloves when you played football? Didn't you do like an internship at a fucking financial company? He's a fighter. For one summer, but like literally all through high school in the summer.

Speaker 1 And then you worked here after.

Speaker 1 Yes. Then the summer after I worked at an excavation company and then I went into finance.
Damn, your hands must be grizzled. They were back then.
Billy, did you wear gloves when you played football?

Speaker 1 Not in high school. So in college, college, yes.

Speaker 1 But it was like one of those things that you're like, well, hey, you know who didn't wear gloves in college?

Speaker 1 Jack Nicklaus'

Speaker 1 grandson. Oh, so is Nick O'Leary? Is O'Leary related to Jack Nicklaus?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 The guy on FSU. Yeah, he's Jack Nicklaus' grandson.
Holy shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean, I have soft hands because I've been blogging for 10 years. I've been living in energy.
I know, but it wasn't supposed to be. I wasn't saying you're not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy that

Speaker 1 Billy thinks that he has hard hands. I have

Speaker 1 some hard hands. Billy, you're no different than us.
Dude, I'm literally the one thing I had when boxing was they told me I had heavy hands, and that was a compliment.

Speaker 1 You have heavy soft, but wait, your trainers that were gassing you up, trying to convince you to like, dad who had you work construction, who I'm sure was making you work hard as shit.

Speaker 1 Literally, yeah, well, actually, it was fucking like if I didn't work hard, then it would be look bad on my dad, so I was busting my ass off. Okay, there's one way to do that.

Speaker 1 Like, I was literally like, I don't know why we're making this like such a, like we like

Speaker 1 to literally not say big cats. I could shade out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 I literally wanted to cut it because I knew it. I want you to shade out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Because he's Sharian made fun of your hands and then you're like, you know who's got really soft hands? Big Cat. No.
That's literally what PFT said. That's kind of what happened.

Speaker 1 I'm not the only one who said that.

Speaker 1 What? I'm not the only one in the history who have said that. Said what?

Speaker 2 Wait, there's... Did anyone else like the message?

Speaker 1 There's multiple people that are saying Big Cat has soft hands.

Speaker 1 Look, you know what? Just

Speaker 1 drop it. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Now we have to find out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been on this show. What?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who? Actually, we may.

Speaker 1 What? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 At least trying to think of what I'm saying. It's been on the show, and the listeners will know.
What are you talking about? The listeners will know. So then say what it is.
Does Jake have soft hands?

Speaker 1 That's not an insult.

Speaker 1 I've literally

Speaker 1 been blogging for 10 years. Of course my hands are soft.
I don't pretend to be some coal miner like Billy. I'm not pretending to be a coal miner.
I just like.

Speaker 1 Captain Cohn's went up and looked at his hands. He's like, dude, you don't even have calluses.

Speaker 1 Who was in the army, who served overseas, was like, dude, those are soft hands. I've got calluses on my hand.
Fingertips.

Speaker 1 I've seen the hardest.

Speaker 1 I think I've got the hardest fingertips in the office. I've got the hard ass hands on the office.
I fucking mitts, bro.

Speaker 1 I don't know why this is.

Speaker 1 Okay, there's one way to decide this.

Speaker 1 Hey, no,

Speaker 1 I've got it. There's one way way to decide this.
I think that the best in the office at executing handshakes, Jake, should blindfoldedly shake both of your hands and then say whose hands are harder.

Speaker 1 I don't, no, but I know I have soft hands. Yeah, but I've just been holding it.

Speaker 1 The part that's just funny to me is that Billy thinks he has these hands that like construction hands for like, he's like a 65-year-old

Speaker 1 retiree who's been working and he can't even straighten his fingers. I'm not saying that.
He worked two summers in construction and he's got hands that that are steel. Are we good?

Speaker 1 Whatever. Do a handshake.
I really don't give a fuck about this. This is crazy.
Jake, sit right there. That's very dark.
You definitely do.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're attacking me. You have to respond.
I mean, we're all about ball busting, right? But you, yeah, right. Yeah.
Aaron, you're all about ball busting. Aaron made fun of you.

Speaker 1 I've made one comment about your hand. I'll close my lap.
Okay, can you pull your hands on? I've made one comment about, like, you know,

Speaker 1 this is blown up so. Someone saying you have soft hands got you so upset.
You're like, no,

Speaker 1 no, no. Because that literally, just listen to the tape.
It's not like that crazy. Okay, it's a text message.
No, it was on air. It was on the podcast.

Speaker 1 We had the discussion on the podcast, and then Billy got upset that his hands were soft.

Speaker 1 And then I literally

Speaker 1 have never been told that my entire life. Everyone, I have soft hands.
Whatever. So that's why.
That's the part that's funny. So

Speaker 1 you know what? Okay, I'll step back. Maybe I've been seeing the degradation of my hands that used to be absolute like fucking

Speaker 1 blocks of granite. You know, now that I'm becoming, I'm not as strong as I used to be.
I'm not as athletic. I'm slowing down.
My hands have lost their calluses.

Speaker 1 Now maybe I'm self-conscious about that. Yeah.
Because I'm slowly curving my hands

Speaker 1 into your hands. There it is.
That's therapy. That is.
That was good. Really good job.
Yes. But

Speaker 1 I still would like a job. That's growth.
Because

Speaker 1 if you had a construction worker shake my hand and like, you have soft hands, I'd be like, Yeah, dude, I do. Yeah, I've literally been working inside for my life.

Speaker 1 I still want to know who has softer hands, though. Okay, so Jake, close your eyes, and then we're gonna mix it up right now.

Speaker 1 You both you guys stand up, Billy. Stand up, okay,

Speaker 1 so you can't hear you go.

Speaker 1 All right, you go first,

Speaker 1 okay? Second handshake,

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake.

Speaker 1 Who had harder hands?

Speaker 1 This is ridiculous. One or two.

Speaker 9 First.

Speaker 1 So Billy's got the

Speaker 1 hands.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yes.
Oh, yes, Jake. You knew.
You can tell whose hands are you. Jake's not a liar.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Jake's not a liar.

Speaker 1 I literally

Speaker 1 have softer hands than me. Dude, that's not not even true at all.
Fucking

Speaker 1 hell. I feel bad because it was right in a harder handshake, too.
That could have played a factor. It was right after

Speaker 1 handshake. But first,

Speaker 1 it was a harder handshake. Yeah.
Ha ha, you had boy, double whammy. A dead fish.
So I didn't. Well, honestly, I didn't go hardo on the handshake because neither did I.
I did a regular handshake.

Speaker 1 Whatever excuse is.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Anyway, my fire fest.

Speaker 1 My fire fest is that I cracked my phone

Speaker 1 and I even bought a life-proof case.

Speaker 1 How did you crack it? I fucking,

Speaker 1 I was running through the woods and

Speaker 1 like fell, cracked it. I don't, did you really fall? Is that a true story?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I fucking, I was trying to move through the woods really fast.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you were stalking somebody. Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1 Did it fall out of your little baby hands?

Speaker 1 Dude.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to post a picture of my hands to Twitter right now. Yeah, that'll be good.

Speaker 1 No one's going to be able to do it. No one's definitely going to go well for you, and you're not going to get upset.
It's going to make things so much worse. So much worse.
No, because

Speaker 1 my hands are my hands. Right.
Which is why you're totally comfortable and confident in them.

Speaker 1 Which is why you're about to post it.

Speaker 1 You have soft hands energy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this is getting into like the third or fourth layer of Billy's Freudian lizard brain right now. Right.

Speaker 1 Where it's like it started with someone insulting him, so he then insulted someone else, and now we've led to a point where he's like quadrupling down.

Speaker 1 You missed some special memes. It's unfortunate, but Jake judged, and I have harder and stronger and harder hands than Billy.
That's not true. Well, I mean, Jake said it wasn't true.

Speaker 1 Jake literally said it. Jake will never lie.
Billy, honestly,

Speaker 1 I'll disavow my own title as stronger and tougher hands than you.

Speaker 1 I don't want it. I don't want the title.
This bit is going on for way. I don't want the belt.

Speaker 1 Take the belt. I don't want it.
You take it. I mean, you've literally been pissing

Speaker 1 all day.

Speaker 1 Because I have soft hands. I'm admitting I have soft hands.
They're as soft as can be.

Speaker 1 You don't have hard hands.

Speaker 1 You are not as tough as you think you are. I absolutely am.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, Jake, your Fire Fest.

Speaker 9 My Fire Fest was at a diary on the show the other day.

Speaker 1 So that was tough. We already talked about it, but that that was the low point of the week.
That was all-time out. That was very tough.
Yeah. That was very

Speaker 1 tough. And people were,

Speaker 1 they thought that it was unprofessional of you. Listen, I will say this.

Speaker 9 If I was going into a game, I would not have a cheese steak as a pre-game meal. Yes.

Speaker 1 Now, okay, but what about this, Jake? What if you had food poisoning from the night before and you had to call the Super Bowl? Would you wear a diaper?

Speaker 9 If I am fortunate to call the Super Bowl one day, I will have like a plain turkey sandwich.

Speaker 1 No, No, but

Speaker 1 if there's

Speaker 1 poisoned, yeah. Okay, all the bagel cream cheese.
Okay, what cream cheese is poisoned, too? It's a poisoned cream cheese. Okay, I'll have fruit.
The question is, Jay. Fruit always goes to the bottom.

Speaker 1 A banana.

Speaker 1 The question is, would you wear a diaper on the air if you had E. coli during the Super Bowl? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'd have to. That's true, Proof.
You'd have to. That's fair.
Yeah. And hopefully the person you were doing it with.
would be cool about it.

Speaker 8 I feel like they'd also have to have diarrhea.

Speaker 1 Tony Romo would be fine with it. Yeah, you'd have to, yeah.
Tony Romo would have to get diarrhea in solidarity. Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Memes, you have Firefest? Oh, the Rangers?

Speaker 11 That, and I keep forgetting to pay for parking.

Speaker 1 So I'm just racking up tickets. What does that mean? You have to get out of the car and you just.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so there's

Speaker 11 an app on my phone that I have to pay it on. Okay.
And I just get on the train and forget until like six o'clock the next day and just hope I don't have a ticket on my car.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm almost in favor of just putting the chip in my arm and letting me just like scan shit as I walk through.

Speaker 1 I know it's like it's egregious and it's not a good idea for like personal liberty,

Speaker 1 but I'm at the point where I forget to do so much stuff.

Speaker 1 As much magic as can happen where stuff gets taken out of my bank account and put in other people's accounts that I owe money to, I'm fine with it at this point.

Speaker 1 It's also one of those things that now that's automated, you forget because it's so easy to forget. Whereas before, it's like, oh, I need quarters to go to the meter, put them in.

Speaker 1 I'm really dating myself right now. But that, you had that action.
They still have that, but they made it easier now that there's and but worse for you.

Speaker 11 Not easy. I just get on the train and forget.
Yeah. And it's like, you forget to pay 25 cents and pay $50 for a ticket.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fuck.
Brutal. That is brutal.
How much money do you owe?

Speaker 11 It takes like $250.

Speaker 1 $250 a ticket? Damn.

Speaker 1 Damn. Oh, in total.
Damn.

Speaker 1 All right. Numbers.
Anything else? Numbers?

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 9 No show Monday, show Tuesday.

Speaker 1 No show Monday, show Tuesday. Sorry, that's good.
Good call, Jake. Oh, actually, my real firefest.
I'm sorry. I forgot to say I love you on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 1 I forgot to tell you guys that I loved you guys. I do love you guys.
We interviewed Bo Polini, and we interviewed it. We did that interview first, and so it didn't feel like the end of the show.

Speaker 1 I forgot to say I love you guys afterwards.

Speaker 1 I apologize. I'll never do it again.
From this point on, you'll never see a podcaster love his audience more than I love you guys. That's beautiful.
God bless. That's beautiful.
All right, 26. 25.
69.

Speaker 1 33. 6.

Speaker 1 41.

Speaker 1 Hank picked

Speaker 1 10. I'll say 10.

Speaker 1 72.

Speaker 1 Pick, we had 72 last night. We had a lot of numbers last night.

Speaker 9 72

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 a little glitch here.

Speaker 9 Sixth time.

Speaker 1 Sixth time. All right.

Speaker 1 They're salamanders that live entirely their whole lives in redwood trees, reproducing and eating and surviving without ever touching the ground. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Talking away.

Speaker 1 know what I'm to say on change anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's another

Speaker 1 day to find you shying away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Shy it away,

Speaker 1 no, I've been coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 Richard

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm on set it's about me stole a little way

Speaker 1 Though they're learning that life is okay

Speaker 1 And say after me

Speaker 1 it's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Say after me

Speaker 1 No, it's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and I dream of

Speaker 1 All the things that you say

Speaker 1 is in love.

Speaker 1 Just to play the worries away.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 You're shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 He's shy and away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 in a

Speaker 1 day.