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And the most exciting thing we had tonight was a rain delay inside of an NBA arena. Yeah, we had a leaky roof tonight.
Kurt Warner having a stroke watching that. Can we do a double dome over top of that? I really don't want any weather creeping in.
Well, no, actually, Big Cat, you're wrong. I think that was the second most exciting thing.
The most exciting thing that happened was Jake's nodding his head right now. We got a legy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Free throw. Never seen that before, Jake.
Not enough game. No, it was actually I mean, and while we we're taping this we're taping this with three minutes left four minutes left i'll never count out the warriors they're down 13 right now so we might just look like the dumbest people in in earth by the 12 now down 12 now down 12 so like we we basically started the show we're like hey should we do this starting into the fourth quarter because the Warriors were down a million now they're down 11 and of course the Warriors are the Warriors and they can come back from anything but we're gonna assume the Warriors lose this game and if they don't we'll keep this all in and we'll just correct it by the end of this um either way it was the two most exciting plays in the game or the three most exciting plays in the game were the wedgie or whatever we're going to call it where the ball just stopped on the rim, the rain delay, and then Luka just shooting one of the greatest horse shots I've ever seen where he threw it up in the air after.
Warriors down to eight. This is awesome.
And I'm pretty sure Steph and Clay have not, and Draymond have not been in this fourth quarter right awesome dude if the warriors steal this game holy fucking shit and i did my whole tweet about how this always blowouts and everything's a blowout the warriors might be the only team that can be blowout proof well it's crazy because like in a game like tonight this would be the bow band game we were supposed to get bow band tonight but it no like you, no lead is safe against the Warriors at all. You put Steph back in right now.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but they just came all the way back with their bench players.
Yeah, you roll the dice. They're playing earlier in the fourth, but you put Steph back in and you give America a night that they won't forget.
That's what you have to do right now. Now I really hope that the Warriors win this game, especially because later on in the episode, I said the Warriors won earlier tonight.
So I don't want to seem dumber than usual on the podcast. I don't need to go out of my way to make myself look like an idiot, but yeah, the halftime, the halftime delay was, that was electric.
It's always funny when they kick it back to the booth, back to the, the halftime show guys. And they're like, okay, just, just kind ad-lib for anywhere between five and 20 minutes until we get this thing fixed they send a guy up to the roof up to the catwalk first of all i would have puked and and gotten dizzy and fallen over the ledge if i was up there but they sent a guy up there with a towel that was their game plan it was very reminiscent of of many afternoons where we've seen fedex field in the fall in in Ralph John Mer.
But yeah, their big plan was just like hold. They should have some up there with like one bucket and then send another guy up to like replace the Home Depot bucket with a new bucket every five minutes.
Why didn't they just use duct tape? I like, I know it's a joke, like, you know, the Apollo 13 or whatever, when they use duct tape, but duct tape literally fixes everything. If you just duct tape the hole, you'll be fine for at least the rest of the game that's a fact i i also every time i saw you tweet that clip i would i was so confused because i went on the chiclet stream for the battle of alberta for the first period and i came back to my couch and it was like still halftime and i was like wait that was 35 minutes what the hell's going on are they are the warriors now what would you put your hands up for hank they put stuff back in they let luka dunk the ball and then they just do it did an offensive foul that like that step was not involved in either of those plays but the vibes but it did have the vibes changed i mean if you look at it's actually funny to look at the warriors starters versus bench everyone Everyone in the starters is minus 18 or worse.
And everyone on the bench is like plus 15 or better. It does make sense that the Mavericks are winning this game because this is like the formula that the Mavericks need.
Like Luca can go out there and he can score 40 points if he wants to. But those are the games that you're probably going to end up losing because it means that Luca is trying to do it all one on one and not really, really you know like for whatever reason it could be that no one else is getting involved it could be that everybody else is missing their shots but that's you're not going to win many games against the Warriors when Luke is doing the thing where he puts the entire team on his back in this game what does he have like 26 points right now and like seven assists eight assists yeah 14 rebounds 14 rebounds that that's that's the formula Mark Cuban should just just be like hey every night uh luca you go out there you score 28 and also have like three other starters in the uh late teens early 20s i don't know if it's that's totally the formula i think it's more just those other guys finally did hit shots because remember in in game three they were 28 from three and reggie bullock was 7 from three.
And they like the Mavericks weren't going to just miss every shot for this entire series. So it was going to happen.
They were getting good looks. They just weren't hitting any of their shots.
So it finally happened tonight. And even still, the Warriors almost came all the way back, which would have been incredible if they had won this game.
Again, they still could win this game by the sabermetric stat of the night came from Stan

Van Gundy.

This was like three minutes ago when the Warriors were down by probably 24 points.

And he said the hardest thing to do is win in the NBA because the other team is trying

to win, too.

Well, it's Trent Dilfer stuff right there.

Unless you're playing the Kings.

Yeah, I just hate that the Mavericks like this was supposed to be the game three energy and we all bet on them on Sunday night like you can't do game three energy in game four you screw everything up when you're down to oh and you go back home you're supposed to win that game not lose and then win game four so they've got me all screwed up and I and I'm sure they'll win game five if they pull this one out.

But yeah, I guess the Warriors,

at least they didn't make it a blowout.

At least they made the fourth quarter kind of fun for a minute.

Yeah, for about 13 again.

One minute now, it's back up.

Well, there's still two and a half minutes left.

That's plenty of time.

Yeah, but Steph should never have been brought back in.

We should talk real quick.

Memes, are you ready to face the the music 10 points i'm here um where are you at right now because the rangers win four to one it's now two to two in the series it seems like the canes just can't win on the road which has to make you a little nervous knowing that if the Rangers can steal one, you're now in hell.

Yeah, so the worry meter goes up with each win.

Funny how that works.

Yeah, that is how series worked.

Well, now it's the best of three.

But I was looking at their scores from the last series.

They got blown out by the Bruins away every single time in all three games. So you're just going to bank on a game seven at home.
You'll be okay. Yeah.
But they also have the lightning waiting for them if they do win. Yeah.
So, Memes, I noticed several tweets from the Battle for Alberta game. Didn't see that many coming from you from the Rangers game tonight.
Oh, no no i don't know if you got hacked in the middle of that game uh phone was charging i tweeted one out it said ranger stew also was like uh who's got the gun to your head you have to be unbiased memes it's right there in your bio yeah you know it's bad memes when i start getting tweets, has anyone checked on memes? That's usually my radar of like whenever something bad happens in the sports world to any of us, I'll start getting tweets being like, oh, no, check on Hank, check on Jake, like all these things. So that's why I had to ask how you're doing.
And it seems like you're in denial if I had to pinpoint what the mood is. Yeah they they look they look really good here's what you do here's what you do memes you know those those losers that have in their their profile on twitter like retweets are not endorsements thoughts are my own um you just need to put in the part of my take bio uh thoughts are not my own so it's just like it's just the game flowing through you not even your own thoughts right you can't be held responsible for anything yeah it's all sounds good um and the battle of alberta has been electric no matter what i mean we're where it's gonna finish what what do you got i saw you on the chicken screaming yeah i have both i have oilers in the flames and the Flames.
Future's on both. So you want the Flames to win so it goes longer? No, I probably would like the Oilers to just finish this off at this point because I want them to be fresh for the avalanche.
Yeah, you want them to have fresh legs going into that. Also, I'm going with the Oilers, too, just because I know a player on the Oilers.
Yeah. So that's kind of my standard when it comes to West Coast.
You know, too. Who's the second? He's also on the donkey Keith.
There you go. OK, yeah.
So I know two more players on the Oilers than I do on the Calgary Flames. OK, we're going to kick it back to ourselves in the studio for Heat Celtics.
By the way, we're streaming it tomorrow night live from the PMT studios. So tune in.
We will be live for game five. I'm sure it will be a blowout, but we don't know which way.
Oh, that just reminded me. I was supposed to go to Manhattan tomorrow night.
I guess we'll postpone that. Hank, you're the programming director of this entire website.
You're the president. Let's do Saturday night, nine o'clock.
No, I'm unavailable. I have another I have a meeting.
right so sunday morning at 7 8 yeah another meeting uh watching watching uefa champions league then so yeah i don't want to i don't want to cannibalize our own company's stream that we'll probably have definitely have all right we'll tune in we'll be uh live for pmt save it for next wednesday i'll just tease it right now next wednesday i'm gonna be i'm gonna be uh bombing dan snyder's train there we go yeah there'll be live from the PMT. Save it for next Wednesday.
I'll just tease it right now. Next Wednesday, I'm going to be bombing Dan Snyder's train.
There we go. Yeah, there'll be no NBA Finals game.
It doesn't start until Thursday, so you're good to go. Beautiful.
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Okay. So, Heat Celtics.
Another blowout. We'll throw another one into the blowout meter.
These playoffs, I said it on Monday, and again, I know that there's a lot of anti-NBA weirdos that want to hop into this storyline of the NBA playoffs game to game not being very competitive. Yeah, we'll get to hockey later for those guys.
Yeah, right. It's one of those things that I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time.
I can love basketball and think that these playoffs have been a little bit disappointing because the series are competitive, but the games are not. And I would like for the games to be competitive more than, like, if you had me choose, I think I'd rather have really competitive games, two-point games, in a five-game series than seven blowouts.
Yeah, not a sweep, but like a five- to six-game series where they, where at least we get like three competitive games rather than seven game series where it's like 20 point victories each side. It's all shaping up to be the most confusing NBA finals of all time because you've got the Warriors who we already talked about them tonight, but we're time traveling.
So the Warriors swept the Mavericks tonight and they look like they're world beaters. They're the old Warriors right now and they're going into the finals against a team that probably is going to go six or seven games um and it's going to be a fair assumption it will it's going to be but it's going to be a blowout for most of them thank you hank has to go six hank you don't need to be so fucking spicy but what i'm saying is like you don't know no matter if it's the heat or the celtics no matter which team advances to the finals i have no idea how to handicap this finals i don't know if if the warriors are that good if the heat are that good if the celtics are that good i don't know what i'm gonna do i think we just gotta to parse it down to this if any team plays their best they're the best you know that's kind of like because i've talked myself into it many times where i'm like no one's beating the warriors best best, but what about the Celtics best? That could beat anyone.
But what about the Heat's best? That's a tough team to beat. I'd say like these Celtics could beat those Warriors.
Right. And those Heat could beat those Warriors, but those Warriors would beat these Heat.
Yes. I followed that.
It makes sense. The one thing that confused me about the game, so it was decided pretty much within the first five minutes.
It was 18-1, I think, at some point. The Heat missed their first 11 shots.
Was it 11 or 12 shots? 13. 13 shots from the field.
It was a disastrous, disastrous start. I was very confused, though, with this series and the injuries that happen.
Every single game. It feels like, oh, OK, Marcus Smart's not playing.
Oh, Tyler Harrow's not playing. Oh, like, you know, Robert Williams is bad.
Right. It was weird to me that the Heat, even though the game was decided in the first quarter, they played their starters in the second half.
And I was waiting for them to be like, hey hey let's punt and go to the next game and they

never really did that they kept on trying to claw back and it wasn't possible because the Celtics were just way better than them on on Monday night we'll see if this matters too but Derek White left the game with like a groin injury with like three minutes left when the game was very much decided yeah hopefully that like isn't a factor but that was a little bit uh Thibidox yeah what's the quarters update, Hank?

The quarters, what is it, Jake?

9-2- three or something? Well, they tied the third. Great.
It was a great game of quarters. Oh, wow.
So it was only two to one for the Celtics last night. Two, one, and one.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, so the heat of momentum.
Yeah, they do. That's true.
They won the last quarter. Yeah, they are.
You got to worry about that. A one-game quarter streak streak it uh i also um we talked about it on monday but bam out of bio being the most frustrating guy to watch because he's good enough to take over any game and then i think he had his second field goal attempt with like 60 seconds left in the second quarter he ended up with five shots total and it's like every time i'm like dude just you're al horford deserves a ton of credit robert williams deserves a ton of credit the celtics defense is completely different when he's on the floor but i just keep i keep watching grant williams i keep watching bam being like just do some stuff dude yeah he's he's the uh verbal meme the guy with the stick you're poking poking him like do something dude yeah jimmy butler last night i feel like in the first half tried first half tried to make this into a Jimmy Butler game, but he's not healthy enough to make it a Jimmy Butler game.
So he was taking most of the shots and bam. I do think that there is something to the fact that like when Jimmy Butler, when he's on your team, like he has to be the alpha.
Yeah. And I think that if you're not like a really strong willed dude, then you're just more than happy to let Jimmy Butler go out there and do his thing.
Cause is a dog. And Bam will step into the dog role when Jimmy's not there, but when he's around, he's always going to be the one that's deferential to him.
Yes. And lacks a little bit of confidence in himself because Jimmy's out there doing his Jimmy thing, even when Jimmy's not 100% like he...
I don't think he was last night either. No, I'd agree.
And also, Peyton Pritchard played well. Yeah.
Peyton Pritchard went out there. After but he came back His whole look When he's wearing like the low top black shoes A lot of people like jump straight To the like smash the cop button And be like that guy looks like a cop Peyton Pritchard looks like a fucking cop He looks like either Like a police officer undercover as a busboy He looks like a cop that will show up to a basketball game

and then cross everyone up and then Bleacher Report

and SportsCenter Instagram accounts will be like,

skull emoji, skull emoji.

Wow.

I love those videos.

Yeah.

When a cop shows up, it's like a female cop shows up

and just gives a guy like 20 and 10 right to his face.

Yeah.

Like, damn, this is crazy.

All right, so I have a question for you, Hank,

before I want to get a status check.

Of course you're not going to take a charge. Question.
Yes. Marcus Smart, Defensive Player of the Year.
Correct. That's facts.
Doctor Fiction fact. Would you agree, though, Robert Williams' most important defender on the Celtics? 100%.
If Robert Williams was healthy all year, he would have been the Defensive Player of the Year. Oh, okay.
I think most of the players would agree. It was night and day.
He will be Defensive Player of the Year eventually in his career. You could also be like the defensive player of your team, but not the defensive player of the year.
Oh, okay. I think most of the players would agree.
It was night and day. He will be defensive player of the year eventually in his career.
You could also be like the defensive player of your team, but not the defensive player of the league. Well, that was why a lot of people were...
Well, he was just injured, but that's true. Yeah, people were up in arms with the guard winning defensive player of the year because rim protectors and guys who can alter everyone's shot that gets even close to the rim, like Robert Williams, changes the entire scope of the defense.
He had like 30 more blocks this season than Bam, and he missed like 30 more games. So my second question is, this is just the mood ring series where we're just riding Hank's mood.
You are now back to this team is the best in the world. It's the best of three.
Yeah, I'm planning on going on Friday. Shout out to game time, but I'm expecting it to be a closing match confetti season.
Oh! Oh, you're... Did I do confetti for winning the East? No, confetti for winning the championship.
What if... I mean, Philly just did confetti for the first round? Yeah.
That's kind of thrown off my thing when they... Well, no, they did confetti for a game that didn't win.
For making it to overtime. Yeah, right.
And then they lost. So I was confused.
They should do confetti at the start of the game. So they don't even do t-shirts? No, they do t-shirts.
It's always different with sports. They do t-shirts.
It's confusing. There might be confetti.
They do the t-shirts that are like, we run the East. Yeah.
Like the beast in the East. Something like that.
I feel like if they do a stage in a trophy presentation, they do confetti as well. They do.
So I'm expecting that. And it's the Larry Bird trophy and the Magic Johnson trophy now.
They just named that. Really? Yeah, for the most valuable player in the conference finals.
That'll be awesome. They just keep adding trophies, which is going to be funny because it would be great if they do like most valuable player play-in trophy, James Harden.
That would be sick. Play-in pee.
Yeah, yeah. Play-in pee is in the West.
James Harden's in East. So, Hank, are you like, give me your confidence meter right now.
You're talking confetti on Friday. So, you're saying it's – You're even throwing out – 95%.
You're throwing out the like it's not even a best of three right now. You're just saying like we're going to win three games in a row.
Yes. So, open parlay Celtics Wednesday to Celtics Friday.
Yes. Jalen Brown, finals MVP.
How do you take this?

Disrespect.

Larry Bird, MVP.

Coming from Oliver Boss.

NBA finals MVP.

Jalen Brown.

Yeah.

Where'd that come from?

Steven Shea.

Okay.

I mean, Hank just said it.

I was going to say that.

You didn't come up with that.

No, but he said it.

It's been ruminating in my brain all day.

You don't think Jason Tatum?

It's good value.

Better value.

Okay.

Think about Andre.

Jason Tatum's going to be the finals MVP. It's like they're going to try and lock up Jason Tatum.
But's good value, better value. Okay.
Think about Andre, you know? Jason Tatum's going to be the finals MVP.

It's like they're going to try and lock up Jason Tatum. But that only happens to Steph.
Like, there was a narrative going after game three that Andrew Wiggins has been the best player in this Warriors-Mavericks series. And everyone's like, just because Steph is small doesn't mean we have to take away every MVP from him.
In fact, it does feel like Steph is the only guy that everyone tries to find someone else on his team. Like, you know who really was important? No, Steph, because Steph gets all the attention and Steph draws everyone to him and everyone else eats around him.
It's because he's too good. He's almost like a gimmick with how good he is.
It seems like the style of basketball that he plays shouldn't't even be possible so it's he is it is like you're using a game genie and you're like yeah you got the high score on game genie but i got the high score without using the cheat right and it's steph will go like six for 14 from three and everyone be like oh what's wrong with him yeah something's wrong with steph curry it's like so i don't know that's like 40 but let's not not forget that Jason Tatum wins the finals MVP.

Then Billy has to go vegan.

Yeah.

For how long?

For a month and a half.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

He's going to cheat.

So he has to do it.

If he cheats, he has to restart day one.

Yep.

Because you know he'll cheat. Is there a piss test you can do for that?

I'll just say that there is, and I'll say that he's lying after the first week,

and he'll be like, oh, fuck, you caught me.

Also, I don't think we're going to have to do a piss test. He's just going to text us all on Sunday being like, Felipe Chow? And we'll be like, yeah, Billy.
And then he'll eat it, and I'll be like, you're not vegan. So, Jake, where are you at? Because Hank's showing a lot of disrespect to you.
You know what Hank's doing? Hank is the national media right now. Hank's gotten so big at his job here at Barstool Sports that he is the face of the national media, forgetting about the Heat, not showing Heat culture any respect right now.
To your face, he said that it was going to be a two-game sweep. Yeah, I mean, he did say five or six, so he's still alive in that consideration.
The problem with this series is that every game is a blowout, so you walk away from the blowout saying that team will never lose again. After game three three i was like the heat are way better and then after game four it's like no the celtics are way better so it's i just hope we get a good competitive game give us one good competitive nah game five we'll be streaming correct yep so that from here pmt youtube yep no nutsacks maybe there was a You see Pitbull was there? Pitbull or...
Gucci Mane. Oh, yeah, it was Gucci Mane.
Yeah, it was Gucci Mane was there. Big Baby Davis, I saw him there.
I get them confused. Yeah.
Crushing popcorn. I saw there were some Arsenal players.
Yeah. The Pistons were there, which is weird.
Do you guys know... I heard...
I don't... You know, it was great talking soccer.
I learned a lot the other day. But I saw someone say he was disrespected because they showed a bunch of celebrities and they didn't show one of the soccer players.
Yeah. That's too bad.
Damn. Don't know what any of it meant.
Yeah. No, I don't.
That one doesn't bother me. Yeah.
Whatsoever. Wait.
What were we talking about right before then? There was something else about this game I was going to bring up. Oh.
Jail Blasters. The Pistons.
The Pistons were there, which I actually, it's always, people always think it's weird when other players go to games like that, but if you're a fan of ball, you're a fan of ball. Oh, yeah, Big Baby Davis.
Yeah. You guys know what Big Baby Davis has been up to recently? Nothing good.
He's been getting in trouble, I think. He's been on probation, and he violated, because he defrauded the NBA out of a bunch of Like money meant for The players After they retire Like what Clinton Portis Got caught for But he violated His probation That game That he snuck into And he took somebody else's Seat courtside At the cell You remember that? When the cameras Caught to Usher Like asking him to move Because he got on TV From that His probation officer Was like Wait a second It's like a Curb enthusiasm you're not allowed to be in massachusetts right now that's funny he got arrested for that all to hall of fame crawl guy cry guy yeah big baby davis you i feel like there was a stretch there with kevin garnett just looked at him he would cry hall of fame gift guy yeah really i would i would honestly go to jail if it meant that there was a gift of mine that would live on like well past my death.
I think that's well worth it. Yeah, the licking the lips.
That is a good gif. All right, hockey.
Jake, is it good or bad to go to a strip club before your team gets bounced from the playoffs? Never confirmed. Fully confirmed.
The Panthers, if you didn't hear, the Panthers went full varsity blues. Tampa Bay is a strip club city, probably the number one strip club city in America.

And so they all went to a strip club

before they got bounced in the playoffs.

The most prolific offense in the history of the NHL

scored three goals in a four-game series.

I mean, the Lightning are a wagon.

The Lightning are like...

It's crazy.

They're legit.

They're starting to reach the point for me

where I'm sick of them.

Well, here's...

If they hadn't been so pathetic

before they won their first Stanley Cup,

I don't know. Lightning are like crazy.
They're legit. They're starting to reach the point for me where I'm sick of them.
Well, here's the. If they hadn't been so pathetic before they won their first Stanley Cup, I would already be sick of the Lightning.
But because they bowed out so unceremoniously, first to the Capitals when Tom Wilson literally punched them out of the playoffs. Yeah.
And then the years following that where they were a big disappointment. If it hadn't been for that, I would already be sick of the Lightning.
Right now I'm still, I'm like reaching, I'm about to peak on the Lightning. That's what's happening right now.
I'm peaking on the Lightning. Well, they're a good test of my theory.
They're fun. And they're a good test of my theory that it doesn't as long as you don't know anyone who's a big fan of that team, it can never bother you.
Like, I don't know any Lightning fans. They could win every Stanley Cup.
I would not be bothered. Tom Brady.
Tom Brady's a Lightning fan. Tom Brady brought excellence with him down to Tampa Bay.
Yeah, you've got to update that stat where basically every city he's lived in just wins trophies. San Francisco? San Francisco is Michigan.
I think the Red Wings won when he was there. And then obviously Boston and then Tampa Bay has had many trophies.
I mean, the Rays got to the World Series. Yeah, they did.
So the last win of the Panther season will be the bikini game. Oh, that's nice, Jake.
Thank you for reminding me about that. That's very nice.
I know it as the Jake lost his phone game. But then got it back.
And then got it back. And got a puck and gave it to you, and you threw it at an usher.
Yeah, okay. I threw it in the direction, and the usher happened to be standing there.
I did not throw it at the usher. That's fair.
But you also, let's put the context in this. You came up to me.
Lower or upper body? It didn't hit. It didn't hit the usher at all.
And it would have hit the lower body. Classic.
Oh, shut up, Hank. You root for Mac Jones.
You can't throw. Yeah, the Panthers, I mean, that was don't win the presidents.
Yeah, it was bad. But look, that was the first time they won a playoff series in 96.
Oh, that's good. Congratulations.
That's great. For them.
Yeah, no, that's great. Step in the right direction.
Go Cats. Yeah, go Cats.
Yeah, time to hunt. Time to hunt.
Well, it's not time to hunt anymore. Yeah, it's time to sleep.
Time to gather. Time to golf.
Time to go to the strip club. I don't have a problem with that, honestly.
Well, I'm not a strip club guy, but I know that hockey guys are a strip club guy. What is this laughing about? Have you ever known me to be a strip club guy ever? I don't understand the concept of strip clubs, why they're so fun.
I am not a big strip club guy myself, so I don't know either. We've talked about it before with Ryan and Titus.
There's always one strip club guy in the group. Yeah.
Which is Hank. The guy that's always pressing.
We've been to a strip club in Tampa together. Yeah, we did.
Oh, wow. Probably because Hank suggested it, right? Yeah, he was like, let's go get some food.
The only place I know is strip club. There's something weird about the guy who's always like, hey, I want, hey, bros, you want to go look at naked chicks together? Yeah.
And he does it too early in the night and you're like, all right, just chill out. Strip club? Should we, I'm thinking strip club? Yeah, maybe strip club.
It's usually the guy that his wife holds him like right under her thumb the entire time. Yeah.
And the second he steps out of the house, he's like, boobs. And then you leave the strip club.
He's like, hey, none of this gets out. It's like what we literally just went and wasted money staring at naked women.
Like, what are you talking about this? We didn't do anything. The Avalanche verse the Blues.
I was watching that game on Monday night. And one of the worst feelings in playoff hockey is what the Blues went through, where they were up 1-0, and they had three shots going into the second period.
And you just sit there, and you're like, nope, this isn't sustainable. This is going to be a problem.
We're definitely going to lose this game. And then the avalanche avalanched them, and I think they scored three goals in a minute and a half, and that was it.
What's going to happen with this series is going into every round, you're going to see the odds on the Avalanche and you'll be like, that's way too heavy. Like there's no chance.
Why would anybody bet on that? You're basically throwing your money away because you're only going to win like $10 off a $100 bet or whatever it is. And then you're going to bet on the other team and you're going to lose all your money doing that.
And then you're going to do it the next it's going to happen again. Right.
I'm just convinced at the Avalanche that this is their year. This is their year.
I feel like they're just... Or, well, maybe the Lightning.
Maybe, yeah, maybe the Lightning. That's going to be good finals.
I'm looking ahead to that already. Lightning Canes, though.
If it's Lightning Canes, the NHL, that's a tough conference final. Lightning Hurricanes? Yeah.
Put it on the Weather Channel, am I right?

Damn.

We should have Al Roker.

Jim Cantore.

Avalanche.

And the Avalanche. Avalanche, yeah.

And the Flames.

Yeah.

Or actually, it'd be better if it was the Oilers.

One thing causes all the others.

Yeah.

Libcat.

No, Democat, remember?

Democat, yeah.

Yeah, Democat.

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Okay, Hank, Hot Seat Cool Trone. Hot Seat is society slash my brain.
It's kind of in a pretzel with this new invention that's come out. Don't really know what to do.
I mean, I'm sure you guys remember, listeners to the show, back in 2016, I brought forward to the world the art of dipping your Oreos in water, essentially washing them. Tastes delicious.
Better than milk. If you haven't tried it, you should.
Of all the weird things you do, I think that's definitely top two. The date goes back for sure.
But then today, I don't know if you guys saw this, there's a new cookie cracker sandwich invention. All combined? Half Oreo, Oreo filling, and the other half is ritz okay i don't know and i don't know whether or not you're supposed to dip that this is kind of rip it this is kind of this is like a chocolate covered pretzel is what they're going for it seems like i own it that's why i kind of said my brain like i haven't i need to try it because i can't really wrap my head around it.
It sounds like one thing.

It's a lot.

50% salty, 50% sweet, 100% with an emoji drooling.

Here's the thing.

These marketing bastards know exactly what they're doing because there's guys like me out there

that will buy these new fucked up novelty products once just to try it.

So it could be like any new flavor of Doritos, I'm going to buy it once.

Any new flavor of Gatorade, I'm going to buy that once.

Any new combo, I'm going to buy that once. This, any new Oreo, I will buy it once and I always go back to the double stuff.
Nothing will ever beat the double stuff. Society peaked when we invented the double stuff.
I don't care that they've taken a little bit of the stuffing out. I think what we have right now with that is just fine, but we keep trying to reinvent the wheel here when we have the best cookie ever right in front of our face.
You know what it too is that you'll try it and then you will you will walk away being like yeah i miss oreos and ritz that's probably what it's about it's like you know what for every package of these that we sell they're gonna suck enough that somebody will go back and buy regular oreos right because they want those instead right right so i guess i i kind of see the salty sweet. I just like to do it the old-fashioned way and go back and forth, switching back and forth.
Do you lick the cream off? I do not. I scrape it.
Oh, with your teeth? Yeah. I don't like teeth.
My cool throne is the city of Indianapolis. Yeah? Today, the NFL announced that Indianapolis will host the NFL Combine in both 2023 and 2024.
Good. It seemed like it wasn't happening.
I know we talked about it on this show. But cooler heads have prevailed.
I don't know if the coaches did a little silent uproar. But that seemed like something that the NFL would want to do in Dallasallas or in vegas and really like you know up it up the up the production value up the events of it but cooler heads the best indy's the best city for it we they should never move it from indy it's perfectly set up for it and you know coaches are creatures of habit so we don't want to you know rock the boat i think the nfl media too i think peter king probably wrote he he got on his buzz williams shit and just wrote roger dell a letter every single day once he floated this idea out there being like don't move it from indy yeah i like going to the same bar every single year seeing the same people having the same conversation eating the same steak they are creatures it's groundhog's day they love doing that and i think what goodell did here I think this was a smart move by him to like float out the idea of moving it And then to be like guess what we're not gonna move it We're coming back and now all the NFL writers like great job Roger It's like when he took away touchdown celebrations then brought him back brought him back It looks like a hero oldest trick in the book And you in Indianapolis has the added bonus that you can stay somewhere and never leave You can never have to go outside yeah it's my dream yeah if you you can eat in the in the steakhouse in the hotel you can walk in the concourse to the stadium to the meetings everything that's a cool thing what they'll probably do though because the whole idea of moving it out of indy was to get more money for the league right um they'll probably just sponsor the fuck out of every event at the combine.
Yeah. So it'd be like the Oikos 40-yard dash and the Pepsi Bench Press.
Right. And the Chevy Mike Silver drinks five bottles of wine at this steakhouse night.
The Wonderlic presented by Bud Light. All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool drunk.
My hot seat is Rex Chapman. Ooh.
Our favorite TNT. What was he on? CNN Plus.
He had his own show for like a week. He killed CNN Plus.
Blocker charge. So it goes.
Bruh. He's on the hot seat because Twitter got rid of the tweet video feature.
So you can't do the thing where you hold down on the video and then you just tweet the video out. You have to quote tweet the entire tweet now.
Oh, really? You press the video. He saved.
And you hold down the video instead of just on your timeline. No, I do that.
But you can't do it anymore. You have to click into it? The actual video.
Oh, into the video. They changed it.
All right, so Rex Chapman is on the cool throne. They added one slight extra step.
Yeah, he'll be on the cool throne in two days once he listens to this podcast and then figures that out. But I have noticed that I went back.
I don't actually follow him on Twitter, but I went back and checked his timeline to see how this new feature is affecting him. And he's doing quote tweets now, but then he's going back and retweeting his own tweets like four hours later to get the extra engagement.
That's always a real smart thing to do. So I guess he's on the hot seat and the Cool cool throne at the same time i like it um my cool throne i've got two my first one is alex caruso he's on the cool throne because uh he is the last man on earth to get arrested for weed you get arrested in college station by texas a&m police officers um texas a&m just tweeted out today a picture of their grow up that they have on campus they're just growing weed on campus now and they're using it for like hemp and for i i guess all sorts of stuff but um caruso saw that and he was like what the fuck like yeah i tell you guys arrested me a year ago for having a grinder and now you've got an entire wing of a new building dedicated to growing marijuana so um free caruso.
Yes. I think we need to say as a podcast that they need to expunge his record.
I want a public apology to Alex Caruso for arresting him for having a grinder there. I want Jimbo to give him a public apology while high.
This is what – that would be a great idea. But if Nick Saban was smart, he would be talking about this and not about the paying players.
He'd players he'd be like listen you can go to college station but they'll arrest you if you have a joint yeah and while growing weed in their backyard growing weed in their backyard bullshit so free caruso also my cool throne is mac jones oh that was mine you want to take it yeah sure he's got he's jacked he's already best shape of his life yes which is good, though, year two? Because you can't go better than best shape of your life. No, you can get better.
You can maintain. You can still be in the best shape.
You can be in better shape. No, no.
Yes, absolutely. You can have the best season of your life, and then the next season have a better season, which then becomes the best season of your life.
But you have one off-season to come into the season best shape in your life. Disagree.
I think that's how it works. I mean, it's good that he's best shape in his life.
His stomach is no more is what was said. How are his eyes? Six pack eyes are great.
Still red? Yeah. Weeping? Six pack summer.
Me and Max. Are you ready to unveil? In the summer, I will be.
Okay. I'm getting there.
I'm getting there. Has he been working on his posture for Matt Patricia? That's what I'm worried about.
Switching back and forth. Hank, have you been following what's going on with the offensive side of the ball? You're talking about the coaching staff? Bill said that he has no concerns with the coaching staff, so I don't either.
Yeah, he said there's an open competition to see who's going to be the offensive coordinator. That's good.
Competition breeds greatness. I've never heard that.
It's training camp for coaches, too. It would be good to have but the two people competing are joe judge and matt patricia to be offensive coordinator neither of whom matt patricia offensive coordinator yes offensive coordinator and joe judge offensive coordinator he's an offensive guy no matt patricia joe judge special teams yeah pretty much Adjacent.
They have the ball in their hand for part of the place. Uh-huh.
Fake punts. Yeah, that's...
I would say it's alarming if Belichick said he wasn't concerned. What do you think? Otherwise, I would be like, what the fuck is going on? Do you think Belichick would be like, hey, listen, I'm worried about our offense this year.
You think he'd ever say that? Yeah. He's a pretty honest guy with the media.
I did like that he was wearing a Celtics hat. I love when coaches of other teams do that.
And all the Red Sox players are going to and from the bus with Celtics jerseys on. Yeah, it is funny whenever he's coming together.
It's Nick Sirianni's wet dream. He's like, damn, I wish the Sixers were in the conference final.
I can do that. All right, my hot seat.
So that was my cool throw. My hot seat is balloons in Nebraska.
So they are done with the red balloon tradition. Helium shortage is what they're claiming now.
So it's been a tradition since the 1960s that in a Nebraska home game in football, everyone brings a red balloon. They score their first offensive touchdown.
They all release it. Now Tre Trev Alberts, the AD, famously known as giving Scott Foster too many years, he has said that it's no more, no more helium shortage in the world.
I guess we get a lot of our helium from Russia. Didn't know that.
And no more balloons. I thought it was like a 99 red balloon situation where they don't want to start a nuclear war.
So you can't release them anymore. Yeah, I hope they keep doing it.
I think they will keep doing it. I think they tried to stop this a few years ago and then fans just brought their own balloons.
Because there's not that big of a helium shortage. But it is funny for them to have a presser and be like, yeah, no more red balloons, helium shortage.
Think of the turtles also. Don't the balloons just land in the ocean and kill turtles? A guy did try to sue them in, I think it was like four or five years ago, being like the balloons land and then it's just waste.
Like, yeah, we know. Yeah, that's what happened.
Right. Do they really, though? But they also, you need it for the touchdown.
Do they really land? I don't think so. I don't think they do.
I think they go forever. I think you release a balloon and then at that point you're just like that's someone else's problem that's god's problem and it's someone like two counties over's problem yeah i always assumed that it would just like go into the ocean somewhere maybe go to the north pole it would be funny if there was one guy in nebraska like in the wind always went a certain direction he's like yeah i my farm has been ruined because every every time they have a prolific offense i just have balloons popped on my yard yeah well that wouldn't be like he'd probably be pretty happy since like the 80s yeah it's been uh i think maybe that's why they're doing that they're like we just really don't want to be embarrassed when we don't score till the second half well there's nothing more sad than going to a nebraska game and then going home with your balloon yes Yes.
They're probably just trying to limit that. Yeah.
But either way, that's a, that's a stupid thing to stop. Traditions are fun in college football.
That's what makes college football, college football is the tradition. I also think that any tradition, if you do the math and you really calculate, okay, how much harm does this do to the environment? Almost every tradition sucks for the environment.
But guess what? We need some something to look forward to yeah uh jake wrap us up with hot seat cool throw and then we'll get to george and greg my hot seats the arizona cardinals they've been selected for the in-season hard knocks yeah which uh i mean look there's two ways to think of this one it's in the middle of college football the world cup feast week and the nfl season So I don't know how many people are going to run to that. And B, it gives you an opportunity to tweet at Kyler.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be fun to watch. They probably have the best story arc of any team because the beginning of the Hard Knocks will be all cheery and awesome.
And then everything will fall apart and it will be fun to watch yeah

kyler murray might not even be on the team at that point that's true i don't know right i'm

looking forward to seeing like how kyle i'm looking i want to see kyler when he knows he's on camera

and see if he acts any differently than i've seen him in the past where like he just he seems like

he just doesn't care about like a lot that's just like his his normal personality is just kind of

there right i'm curious to see if he like hams it up for the cameras at all. If he tries to.
Well, oh, J.J. Watt.
Yes. He's going to be there.
I saw he tweeted out yesterday that he needs to bring back the Fort Minor. Yes.
That would be great. If they're smart, they would have him do that.
If he did that, it would be very funny. We have to see Cliff Kingsbury's house.
Yeah. That's good.
That's true. Maybe it's not really a hot seat.
Okay, and your cool throne? My cool throne is Mike White. Yes.
Today, reminder was set. I have the clip from the November 5th podcast.
Let's go. Remember Mike White Day.
I mean, the big winner of tonight for the Jets has got to be Mike White, though. Yes.
Because he looked decent on the couple drives that he was in. Everything we said.
We said when you're a backup quarterback in the NFL, the best thing you can do is have an awesome game and then immediately get injured and secure your status as an NFL quarterback for 10 years. Mike White, I'll remember Mike White.
Jake, put in a reminder, don't forget about Mike White. May 24th.
There we go. It was the Thursday night game where he got hurt.
That's beautiful. Yeah.
We remember Mike White. May 24th.
Here we are. He does suck.
No. He was great that one game, but then he got hurt.
Come on the pod. Come on the pod.
Come on the pod, Mike White. Here's the thing.
I'm pretty sure he's in NFL. I don't think that Mike White is good enough to suck.
You sure? That was enthusiastic. I think that he's just Mike White.

Mike White.

Let me see.

What were his stats after that?

Because didn't he come back in and then suck?

Didn't they beat the Bengals?

Mike White.

Yeah, no, that was the beginning of the Mike White.

Five touchdowns, eight interceptions.

I'm going through his timeline right now.

Oh, March 25th was Mike White's birthday. The Jets tweeted Uber Eats says happy birthday Mike White Nice So yeah remember he screwed up Because he got hurt In that indie game where he played well But then he came back the next week And threw four interceptions Against the Bills That's what happened But.
But we're remembering him. We do remember him.
We remember that he stinks. He's AWL? I'm pretty sure he is.
Mike White, come on the show. I'll say it to your face.
That's fine. I like Mike White.
Why do you think he's an AWL? I have a friend who's friends with him. Oh, wow.
Wow. Yeah.
Where'd that connection come from? What school did Mike White go to? Well, west of kentucky but i believe he started at usf my friend went to usf got it yeah all right all right fine you talk me back into mike white all right not uh okay let's go to our good friends george kittle and greg olson and then on the other side we have Bo Knows Ball with Bo Pelini. Questions from the AWLs with Bo Pelini in studio.
OG guest. OG guest.
Fuck. You guys probably talked about that, didn't you? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we did. I realized that after I said that.
No, I realized that after I said that. Greg Kittle and Greg Olson, the Greggs, are brought to you by our good friends over at Upstart.
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No, no, that's what I do on my podcast. We all clap.
Oh, you have a podcast. Oh, okay, all right.
I do. I've invited you both.
If you guys want to talk about it, we can talk about all of our podcasts. That'd be great.
This entire interview is just like, let's talk about what you guys talk about in your podcast. Yeah, no, and Greg, we know you have a podcast because you stole Mikey Podcast from us.
Correct. Right.
You can talk about it. Yeah.
You can talk about it. So it's Greg Olson and George Kittle.
It's going to get confusing because we do call George Greg. They're on.
They have Tight End You coming up again, which is getting tight ends the recognition they deserve, which we can can get into this but I think you guys have too much recognition at this point but I wanted to start with a softball I have a softball for both of you who wants to go first all right Kittle all right George your softball is um when do you think Tom Brady will take Greg's job as the number one uh guy the booth? It's a great question. No, I don't know.
Greg kind of has this tenacity to him. I don't know if he's going to let anyone take his job.
Okay. But it is Tom Brady, and there are six Super Bowls attached to that, so that's kind of false.
Wait, does he have seven? Seven? Is it seven? I think he has seven. Too many Super Bowls.
If he gets eight, I'm fucked. You're fucked.
All right, so Greg, my question for you, which is a softball, is Trey Lance or Jimmy G? Who's starting for the 49ers week one? I'm saying Trey Lance. Okay.
And Greg, for people who are listening, not watching, he's nodding with approval right now. Am I? Yeah.
And by Greg, they mean George. This is a who's on first.
I have no idea what's going on. Greg, are you going to mentor Tom Brady in the booth and train him on how to take your job? Yeah, that's actually been a big part of the negotiations.
Tom, no, I'm kidding. No, I have nothing to do.
When I heard about the Brady news, I heard about it the same way everybody else did. Hopefully things can, you know, things are working out.
We're talking to them now. We're in discussions about, you know, what that looks like between now and whenever that day he retires of, you know, hopefully calling a Super Bowl and calling their A slate this year.
So hopefully that works out. We're talking to them right now.
But, you know, anytime you find yourself in a battle with Tom Brady, I think it's pretty clear who wins. It is.
I mean, you did a great job, you know, your first year broadcasting this year, and it's going to be great to hear you on those premier games on Sunday afternoons. I would have to imagine there's a little small part of you that's like, oh, this kind kind of sucks but if there's one guy in the world who you can't really be mad it's the guy with seven Super Bowls yeah if they would have hired someone you know all along like you know we thought we were in the mix and we had good dialogue and you know obviously they weren't going to tell us exactly what was going on behind the scenes and you know we had heard the same rumors everybody else did and we were trying to make sense of it all.
And then when the news came, it was like, you just said, I was, if it was someone else, like if I got jumped by someone else, I would have wanted to burn. Yeah, sure.
I would have wanted to like burn the city to the ground. Right.
I would have been pissed and whatever. But like when you lose out to Tom Brady, it's like, this sucks.
At least he doesn't take the job now. Maybe I can have my time in the sun and keep his seat warm until he gets there.
But yeah, if you're going to lose, at least lose to him, right? I mean, I can at least live with – I got beat out. The only person in the world who beat me out was Tom Brady.
I can live with that. I think you've got to root for him to not win a Super Bowl this year because if he wins, I think that's when he does retire.
But doesn't win one this year then it's like oh shit he has to he has to come back next year I personally think his career doesn't really and you know I think you can't really make a judgment on his career until he has eight Super Bowls so I think he he if he really wanted to achieve something he should just continue to play and see if he can win another ring you know Arians is gone win one for Win one for Todd Bowles. I think it's only fair that he wins one for the next guy.
And if it doesn't happen this year, hopefully it's within the next 10. George, I was just admiring, as Greg was talking, your ability to tie your hair up into that sick little top knot that you have.
You were doing like some intricate hand position. It took you about like 45 seconds to do that.
I don't know how that's done. I've had had long hair for like 10 years i still don't know how to do what you just did uh my wife taught me oh well she did a hell of a job yeah it's like you're doing origami with your hair what thank you i really appreciate that what's the new tattoo i i just saw it on your hand yeah oh it's it's hobbs from calvin and hobbs comics okay is that real.
There's nothing better than getting a new tattoo and having someone ask, is that real? That's amazing. Dude, that's sick.
All my teammates were like, is that a henna tattoo? I was like, nah, it's not really my thing. I did get on Sunday before I flew back, though.
It was nice. I love that.
I feel like kids these days, they don't know about Calvin and Hobbs. It's one of the all-time greats.
Yeah, they need to get on that. You'll learn something, maybe a thing or two.
Hey, was that last year that you showed us your ass tattoo? Yeah, I think so. It was.
That's what I thought. You never showed your ass, though.
Yeah. I don't have an ass tattoo.
I have nothing to show. I got some hair.
That's about it. He's got a third leg.
Yeah, I've heard about that third leg actually at teu you know what you should do you should just like sneak up behind him and then rip the back of his jeans off and expose yeah let's talk about it yes what what are you doing it's fun what's happening billy you can you can chime in anytime you want here Wait, is Billy here? Yeah, here what's up i'm off really what's up dude how you doing uh dude i've seen your legs a lot recently yeah on the internet so it kind of all started where i've been taking my jeans to a laundromat and they're getting like pretty beat up and they've been ripping what i've been sitting down so i had some like tinfoil ass jeans and uh there's been a like a trend going around where people ripping each other's pants i was like we should do that and uh we did and it became a problem yeah it's a problem now so it started as it actually was like a tiktok uh viral tiktok of i don't know two weeks ago we're out in vegas and billy was like hey this is a viral tiktok basically pft and i uh every day we just sit in our office in the office and we're just and Billy comes up and he's like hey I need you to do this TikTok and we don't even know where they go he just like films us and then they just go out on the internet so when he says hey I need you to rip the jeans off of my ass I'm like alright fine so I did it then we came back and now it's become we we did it again. PFT did it to him, but now it's like real.
Like now people are in the office are trying to rip the jeans off each other's asses. I got a little, I saw someone.
Yeah. I saw, was it PFT who tried to rip someone else? And then he got like counter moved, like reverse two points.
Yeah. He got taken down and your pants got ripped.
Yeah. So I mean, I saw that I tried rip billy's ass off and then billy defended against me because he was wearing mugsy jeans which don't rip they they stretch and then he just pushed me off and then he landed on me and ripped the back of my pants off i wasn't wearing underwear at the time and my balls just flopped out from behind big balls yeah they're i they're-sized balls.
You can judge for yourself on TikTok if you go follow a part of my tape. Well, you can't anymore.
I might go look. I saw the video Billy showed it to me, and I was like, that's a funny video.
Objectively speaking, male nudity usually plays. I didn't know that my balls popped out because I didn't watch it in slow-mo.
Billy uploaded it to TikTok And then I watched in slow-mo and I was like that's just my nutsack you can vary it flops back where it's very funny You see like it pops up like a like a carp coming to the top of a lake and then drops immediately back down And I was like Billy, please delete that from tick-tock He deleted it. Uh, but then some people screen grabbed it pretty quickly So the one that's on TikTok now is censored, but the original uncut, there was balls.
But I'm of the mindset that balls are always funny. Yeah, I think balls are what they are, right? Yeah.
No, they're very funny. I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.
I was looking forward to this for no other reason than I was trying to wrap my head around what was happening. Wouldn't a good defense system just be like, cut the pockets off your jeans? That's probably the next thing up.
That's what you think. That would definitely make it more.
If you start a rip, it would be very easy to rip. If you just cut the pocket out, then there's nothing to grab.
I think it's just assless chaps. You've got to wear assless chaps everywhere.
I hate it. also becomes like a challenge if you cut the back pockets off entirely it's like daring other people like you can't rip these jeans even god himself could not rip them i think that like we go through these types of scenarios as a podcast a lot where like four years ago we got really into sack tapping each other and then you go too far you're walking around in fear all the time i hit Big Cat so hard that I thought that he would never have kids.
Fact check, false. Yeah.
And then we just realized, okay, we've gone too far. We need to stop.
I think we've reached the point where we've been too far because Billy got Will Compton and just tore a leg off of his pants. That was awesome.
I know, but Will deserves that. Yeah, he does.
He's a Nebraska guy. He deserves that.
You're absolutely right, but PFT's right. Barstool here, our office, is already crazy enough.
When you add the element of, like, will I have my pants ripped off my body at any moment, it becomes very tough to just live day to day. It's like walking around a locker when you back when you were allowed to like towel snap somebody like in high school you know like when you're a freshman they don't know i'll do that anymore i think you get like kicked out of school but like when we were still like when we were growing up like the young kids would walk around in fear going to the shower because the older seniors would like you know make a towel snake and like snap them in the ass it's like i get it i've been there i think if you guys are looking for something to be instantly viral for teu a video of that would be very funny like you you just absolutely pantsing johnny smith or something like we just go around and just pull each other's levi's off yeah yeah oh that one sponsor they're a sponsor nice plug that was a good plug yeah that is yeah So I said it at the beginning, but do you guys think, like, I know that when you started TEU, it was like, hey, tight ends, you know, all of us getting together, teaching each other stuff, like it's a brotherhood.
But I feel like tight ends get more respect than any other position at this point. It's become the position in the NFL where it's like if you don't have a great tight end, you're in trouble yes and no I mean I definitely think it's there's more respect coming our way but if you look at like the last or ever how many Super Bowl winning teams every team has had like a really really talented tight end on their team to George's point you know I think part of the evolution of the position has kind of and what was cool is you know when I came in the league there was a handful of guys right there was Gates and there was Witten and there was Gonzalez and you know there was a handful of guys and then every you know everybody else was just kind of run of the mill you know give or take and now to George's point almost every prominent team prominent offense playoff contender Super Bowl contender has a legit dude at the position I think you can see it now and how they're getting paid I think you can see it now in their production.
I mean, you look at George, you look at Kelsey, you look around the league, Mark Andrews, I mean, Darren Waller. I mean, the production that these guys are having, when I first came in the league, if you wanted to be a top 10 tight end in the league, if you had 500, 600 yards, you would be in the top 10.
Now you get 500, 600 yards, like you're an afterthought. you're a guy that doesn't really get it's just a completely different world and i think it's a credit to more people want to play the position because it is a little bit more highly thought of it's a little more acclaimed you know in years past these bigger guys would go play defense or they'd you know get smaller and go play wide receiver now guys want they grow up wanting to play tight end and i think we're getting better athletes to play the position and as a result more and more guys wide receiver.
Now guys, they grow up wanting to play tight end, and I think we're getting better athletes to play the position. And as a result, more and more guys are entering the league that are capable of doing it.
Yeah, but I feel like National Tight End Day, over the last couple years, it's kind of like, it's become a look-at-me thing for you guys. Whereas before, it was like tight ends, gritty position, almost like the flashier nephew of the fullback.
Now it's like, you've got your own holiday. Like a lot of people are saying like, it's, it's become a little too showy.
Are you saying that we sold out? I'm not saying that. Other people are telling you.
Some would say that. Let's just say hypothetically, if Billy said that to you guys, what would you say? I'd rip'd rip his pants off.
Who's getting snubbed this year? Because I know that that's like, who's coming to the tight end you? Because I thought that last year, was there a couple guys who were a little hurt that they didn't get the invite? Tebow. Tebow, yeah.
Tebow. Probably.
I mean, I think we're not going to lie. Last year, we totally underbooked.
We did not think that we would get as many guys down.

I think when me and Greg and Travis first talked about it, our goal is like 20 to 25.

And it was like, we're going to have some fun with it.

And then next thing we know, we're at 40. And then come like the first day, we're at 49, 50 guys.

And yeah, we definitely had to turn some guys away.

And that's the whole point of this year is we're trying to make it open to almost everybody.

And what weekend is that? June 22nd 23rd and 24th okay very cool why don't you guys come is there a chance you guys make it down there this so billy's gonna try to get an invite and i don't think we trust him to go by himself um that's the the barstool idol week is that week so we gotta next like you gotta us when it is next year, and we'll make sure that we have it completely blocked off. Love that.
Like, I'm in. We'll do that.
But it just so happens. Yeah, Billy's been, like, he's trying to get an invite, but I don't know.
We got to see how he. I was so well-behaved in Vegas.
We got to see how well he's acting. Because Billy, you guys could maybe help us with this.
Because you guys have been in the league for a long time. And you ever have a teammate who, after a good game, you can just tell maybe their effort isn't the same in practice next week? They kind of sit back a little and they're like, I fucking rocked.
I'm the man. I don't have to do this anymore.
We deal with that a little times. Yeah, like Billy has actually been doing a great job.
All compliments to Billy. But every time I do give him a compliment, we usually have like a four to five day Billy's going to go get drunk and we won't hear from him.
I mean, I'm not going to make you not do that, Billy. That kind of sounds like a fun invite.
This is what we're afraid of. Yes.
Some guys want to rest on their laurels.

Some guys think they've arrived.

Some guys have the number one show on the internet,

and they just keep banging away every week and grinding.

There's two different types of people.

And, you know, if Billy can't handle the success,

that's going to be a problem.

How about this?

What we should do is we should say that we will send

Billy, but we'll keep like

we'll put a chart up on the wall and

he gets a sticker for every

good day that he has here. Yeah, it's like a

Buckeye. Yeah, exactly.
Like a helmet sticker

on the wall and he has to collect a certain

amount of those to be able to go and he won't know

until like the last week whether or not

he'll attend. My kids collect emojis.
It's what

we do with my kids. Big Cat, you can steal this

idea when your kids get older.

We do emojis and we keep

Thank you. until like the last week, whether or not he'll, my kids collect emojis.
It's what we do with my kids, big cat. You can steal this idea when your kids get older.
Um, you, we do emojis and we keep track of it in our notes section. So every single time they do something like above and beyond what they're expected to do, like be nice to their sister, you know, whatever they're, they're supposed to do.
And they go above and beyond, they get an emoji and they can pick it, whatever emoji they want. And sometimes they pick funny ones and they they don't even know it like there's like five eggplants in my wife's note section i'm awesome but um and then they can cash them in for like prizes or a new whatever like they can cash them in it's almost like fake money kind of thing for deeds so that's parenting one on one and also a very good idea by uh by you guys good good.
Good, good call. That's genius.
Yeah. We got to, we got to do the emojis.
So we're going to, we're going to keep track of Billy's emojis. If he gets like, I don't know, let's say 15 emojis by the time it comes around, maybe we'll send him, but he, he has been doing a lot better.
It's just one of those situations that like there's, there's a world where Billy was well-behaved in Vegas just so that he could go to tight end you like he you know what i mean so we got to be we just got to be aware of everything with billy he's he's always scheming so there's a good chance he'll get there he's got to earn it just wondering did you guys see my write-up on tight end you from last year we saw it yeah i mean i i just think i'd be a very good i didn't love it i know i know i mean i just it was all i saw so if i was there i'd probably be able to get a better just good coaching points yeah get a better yeah all i know is if you do come this year you better you you got to be better dad i thought your article last year was shit yeah i mean did you see did you know the title of the article? I blocked it out from my brain. Tight end university, a party school.
Oh, wow. Okay.
So you're not putting labels on us. Yeah.
I just got, I didn't see the work from the social media output. I saw yoga and shotgunning beers in bathtubs.
Uh, the shotgun beer, uh, just so you know, yeah, the shotgunning beers, some, you know, all this shit does take a lot of money just for the record so yeah we there is some stuff that we have to do

to pay the bills because when guys come in and we and george throws him a great party in his

hometown of nashville shit ain't free so uh we're very fortunate that we have great partners we've

already gotten two of them in very organically and now i'm going to throw in the third one not

quite as organic but uh charman you can see it on george's shirt they are a sponsor and if you don't get it guys they take care of your tight end i don't know if you guys saw that you guys have gotten baby shit soft uh-huh yeah it goes both ways i'd say it goes both ways i think it depends on which angle you're coming to it from oh um but uh that, all the sponsors are what makes all this possible, you know, to host 75 to a hundred guys this year and put everybody up in Nashville and bus them around and host events and, you know, rent Vanderbilt and all that. We're fortunate that we have great partners and we get to throw what we think is of all these positions that host these events, ours is the best a big part of that is because we can we can treat our guys really well because of our partnership dollars and then everything we don't spend goes to charity so it's a win-win for everybody i'll say something nice about tight ends i think that you have the coolest people playing the position in the nfl right now if you look around like per capita ends, those are mostly guys that I would want to hang out with.

Yeah. I think that's right.

Yeah. I mean,

we actually do want to come next year.

We will absolutely make a trip of it and

just interview all the tight ends.

I have a question for you,

Greg, because you're retired, so you

can speak on this more.

Did you ever have a situation

when you were playing

that maybe, like, a star

player wanted

I'm sorry. speak on this more would you ever have a situation uh when you were playing that maybe like a star player wanted a new contract or wanted to be traded how did you deal with that yeah i mean i there was times where i wanted a new contract you know i never demanded that a team traded me but i i'm all for that shit i think everybody should be able to get their money get what they're paid and I think and last year people got crazy when I made that comment I was actually on here talking about TEU and I made the comment about tight ends don't get paid enough and people like brought up my contract earnings that I was complaining making money in the NFL is not yes the money's important and all that it's about respect amongst your peers like when everybody's chasing that next contract all they're asking is that they get paid accordingly based on their production their value to the team and in accordance with other players at their position so when george is up for a new contract it's not that 10 million isn't enough or that 5 million isn't enough if the top tight ends make 16 he should make that just because he's amongst the top players if not the best at the position him and Travis and whatnot so like it's kind of a pride thing and then everyone just uses the money as the scale so yeah when a star guy wants a new contract like if he's deserving and his play and his history on the field is in accordance with someone else at a higher level of income I think that guy should make all the money he can.
And how would you act if he removed all mentions of your team from social media, like took him out of the bio, all that type of stuff? I probably would offer a pay cut. The type of guy that I am, I'd probably go to management and offer some of my salary to make this hypothetical player happier.
Well, let's just go farther than hypothetical. He's an elite wide receiver who also runs the ball.
Let's just pretend that's who we're talking about. Yeah, exactly.
I think that's – yeah, and again, whether that's a real person or not, I think just for argument's sake, it's a good comparison. Yeah.
It's a good talking point. You know, I think if you – say you're on the same side of the ball.
Yes. Right, say you're on the same side side of the ball just to further the conversation even deeper.
I think it's what you're obligated to do, especially if you happen to have a young quarterback potentially coming into the role. But some guys are just built different than others.
Yeah. And as a tight end, that would be on that side.
It's like you're responsible and you take a lot of pride in your blocking. So a lot of those holes are opening up are are also because of the work that you're putting in on there so how do you weigh okay i deserve this much money which i may have just been paid on new contract versus how much do i want to pay to my teammate to keep him around right give up really yeah this is a great hypothetical yeah well it's just we're throwing up it's called Using your imagination.
Yeah. But I like the idea that, like, if you're a really good teammate,

an American... This is a great hypothetical.
Yeah. Well, it's just we're throwing up.
It's called using your imagination.

Yeah.

But I like the idea that, like, if you're a really good teammate and a really good, you know, you're a tight end brotherhood,

you should give up some of your money for this other guy.

Even though he's not a tight end?

No, right.

But that's especially because he's not a tight end.

Kind of plays like a tight end sometimes.

Yeah, we bridge the gap between positions.

Olive branch.

Like, Hank, for example, gave up a lot of his salary to keep us happy here so we you know we think of ourselves as more than a team really a family right is hank there too no he's he's our boss now he's upstairs he's closing deals yeah no i'm not you're laughing he's he's wearing a suit he day. He commutes.
He's like, you know, like, think of like the most quintessential New York scene. Hustle and bustle.
A bunch of suits walking down the street. Hank is just one of those guys in the rat race.
That's what he does every day. He's got a Bluetooth earpiece now, too.
Yeah. I have one last question for you guys.
Tight end you coming up. We're going to be there next year.
I'm putting a guarantee on this.

Okay.

We're going to be there next year.

We just need the dates beforehand.

We'll come.

We'll even teach a class.

You want us to teach a class?

How about we'll teach a class on what to say and not say about Debo Samuel's contract situation on a podcast.

Okay.

Do you have any tips right now?

What would you say?

I would say I love Debo so much I'll play for free so he can be on my team. Okay.
You would say that? I would personally say I love Devo so much wherever he goes, I go. Yeah, I'd play in the NFL right now for free.
How come you guys didn't give up any money for the Caller Daddy girls to stay at Barstool? Oh, we did. We did.
We actually did. You guys gave up your money? More than money.
All of it. You gave up your pride, money.
Yep. They own, Sophia with an F owns, pardon my take.
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back to you guys all right actually hank the truth is hank fired him yeah hank hank fired he's just cutting everyone over here he's actually be careful greg because hank has enough power now that he'll cut your podcast even though you don't even work for us i don't love that yeah david big cat does your kid play any youth sports that you want to be a guest? He's two and a half. We played soccer last summer, and he just chased pigeons around.
Can he use both feet? No, he just picks the ball up. So he's the goalie.
You know what it was? The problem was there was this one kid who would always come late, and the kid's mom would bring fruit snacks so like the kid would show up my my son would be like kind of in it for you know it's fucking two two-year-old soccer whatever he'd be like kind of like following along for like 10 minutes then this kid would come up come with the mom and the fruit snacks and it would just be over he'd just be like all right it's fruit it's fruit snack time. And the next 30 minutes was just, there was nothing left.
So I got to cover that. Yeah.
We covered that on our last episode, how to prevent distraction at practice. Yes.
I feel like you could be a nice guest on it when we do a follow-up to that episode. Yeah.
Tell that mom to fucking keep her fruit snacks at home. Yeah.
She's got to stay in the car. Yeah.
All right. So my last question, it's a rollback question.
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Okay. Real question for both of you.
You can start Greg. Tight end you has been awesome.
What is this year? Three? Two. Two.
Tell me what it looks like year 10. Are you guys, someone told me that you guys are basically doing this so you can become

their agents and make billions.

Is that true?

For all,

listen,

I wish Greg's goal.

That is not my goal.

I think the ultimate end game for this,

I think if we could dream up a scenario where,

where this would grow is obviously right now we're focused on servicing the

professional levels,

whether that's an undrafted rookie to perennial pro bowlers with George and,

and, and Travis and everybody in the team, right?

So I think this year will take us, you know, 75, give or take guys at the

professional level. I think now,

especially with NIL and opportunity with younger amateur players to now come

around and be around events that are driven by sponsors and partnerships.

I think if we could bring in and grow both the college and then beneath that, like a youth component and make TEU like more of like a, a track where we can get our hands on, you know, guys that are coming up through the ranks at tight end that are playing high school ball. We can get involved with them, coach them almost like a Manning passing Academy type thing, then have them back through their college careers.
And then of course, for those who make it have guys and like whoever that first like lifer is the kid who came in high school, college and pro maybe one day that happens. Like, I think there is a larger play at this.
You know, we run this as a nonprofit, the money that takes to run from all the sponsors and whatnot pays for the event. And then everything else, Boys and Girls Club, we partnership with Bridgestone on a camp and donate to a lot of Nashville area charities.
So like everything else goes to nonprofit. So I think it's just our way of being around the guys, hanging out with the guys and passing the torch, right? Continuing to build the position and get some of the best minds in the game together and hopefully one day that trickles down to to the younger class of high school kids who want to come learn from you know the best guys in the world that at what we do and i if in 10 years we were at that level i think teu would be a really special summer you know you know summer event that everyone kind of marked their calendars with.
That's awesome. All right.
Yeah. Go ahead, George.
Just on top of that, like, like connecting the high school players, NFL players, and then between like one of the cool things we're doing this year too, we're like, we're bringing back NFL legends. And so like, I can kind of just be a, like a, I don't know, not a safety net, but just a connection for every single tight end in the NFL and high school and college.
It would just be really fun for all those guys just to learn and really vibe together, honestly. I love it.
Billy's got his hand up. He's had his hand up for the last 30 minutes, so we're going to call him Billy here.
I was just wondering, like, serious question. Have you been, like, trying to create something for tight ends, much like the Manning Passing Academy or one of these? I think you just said that.
I think that's what that is. I think they literally compared it to the Manning.
We just said that. Billy, that's not an emoji.
That's not a gold star. We're taking an emoji away.
I think what happened was there, just to translate, Billy had his question before you answered yours, both of you guys. So he had his hand raised, and he wasn't listening because he was like, I have something I have to say, and then you guys answered that.
You've got to be able to multitask. Have you ever been in a relationship? You're going to get yelled at that a lot.
Let's get a headline grab real quick. Get some buzz going for TEU.
George, do you want to play football until you're 40 years old? If my body allows me, I'd love to. Okay.
Greg, do you want to call games as the Fox broadcast a game for the next 20 years? Yes. Oh, wow.
Tom Brady, watch out, bro. Not a good mentor.
Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. Can you give us, can you do the, can you do the Ryan Tannehill with Tom Brady? I was just going to say, I'm like Tannehill.
I'm like Tannehill. It's not my job.
It should be. You're not a good teammate.
Yeah. I was literally just going to say the same thing.
I'm like Tannehill when he got bashed for saying that he was going to look after his own job before he taught his guy he was going to steal his job. Yeah, how would that work for you guys? Did anybody mentor you? I guess that's what TEU is for, right? To have older guys that might not be on your team to talk to you about their craft and how to do it.
But did anybody on your team, when you guys ever got into the league, were they like, hey, here's what I've learned, here's how you can be successful? Or was it like, it's up to you, you're a grown man, figure it out? When I got drafted to Chicago, they had a really good veteran tight end, Dez Clark. He wasn't old He wasn't like the meat of his career.
He was accomplished, just started for them in the Superbowl, like was a really good player. And he treated me great.
Like by no means did he like roll over and die and say like, all right, you got drafted your first round pick, take my position at all. But he was great to me.
Like he always answered my questions. He was always fair.
But when it came time to practice, like he came every day saying this rookie is not going to take my spot. And then that was kind of my approach my whole year.
I had a million young tight ends come through over 14 years that I shared a room with. And my philosophy to them was always, I'm going to always help you.
I'm always going to answer your questions. I'm always here.
If you have something you want to talk about, ask about, you want to watch film with me. Like I am all for that, but I'm going to make it so hard for you to ever take my job.
And that's not personal. That's not because I'm trying to, I'm not trying to sabotage you at all.
I'm here to help you. But when it's time to go, like I'm not giving you one of my reps.
I'm not going to take myself out of the game to like get you experience. Like that's not my job.
I will help you. I will help you learn.
I will meet with you before practice, after practice, watch film with you. But when it's time to go, like you're going to have to take my spot and kill me before I give it to you.
And that's, I think that's everybody's approach. And then one day the young guy does take your spot and then you retire and you run a podcast yeah yeah it's the dream yeah yeah um well we appreciate you guys we love you guys uh and good luck with tight end you this year let's get get get us the the dates for next year i want we'll we'll build an entire grit week around it we don't care i love that it's i mean oh yes yeah we'll do it all we want to want to do it all it didn't work out this year but yeah we're in so let's get ahead of it and then we'll just block off the whole week we're going to come to Nashville and we're going to get fucked up Billy you can't listen to that part Billy's not allowed to drink on the road not? maybe for tight end you I'm starting to think one night i'm gonna you know i'm gonna give him lights a sponsor yeah i'm gonna give him an emoji i'm giving him an emoji but he fucked up the man in question yeah but i'm giving him an emoji just because he's down on himself for that and that's showing like he cares he's down on himself because he thinks that he's gonna get drunk yeah billy q stand in front of the oh there he is why doesn't You can see that's worth an emoji.
He knows how to listen. If Billy could do 275 right now one time in front of you guys, he'll get an emoji.
Done. That's easy.
Easy. He says that's easy.
Let me see his body. Let's see his body.
He doesn't have pockets on his pants. Take your shirt off.
Take your shirt off. Can you take your shirt off for this?

He wants to see your body.

Can you take your shirt off?

I want to make a bet, but I got to take a look at what he looks like.

He's done it before, but this is a little more pressure because you guys are watching.

Dan, will you tell him to take his shirt off?

Take your shirt off.

George wants you to take your shirt off.

All right.

Oh, they said you're disinvited if you don't take the shirt off. Billy, take your shirt off.
How much weight did you just put on there? They just said that. Time out.
How much weight is on there? 275. What kind of – What are those weights? What are those plates? Wait, are you really not going to take your shirt off? You're a rookie.
Take your shirt off. Yeah, wait, wait.
They are saying that you're not invited if you don't take your shirt off. Take they take your shirt off he's george is saying he's gotta take your shirt off all right thank you there it is all right look i'm even starting i'm showing i want hey can you ask him why at 275 is there a hundred knocking everything over it's like a fucking chaos earthquake i'm starting my notes app right now the billy teu uh what emoji are you

gonna use i what do we use i think maybe the just the arm the strength yeah arm i think it's gotta be the bicep this is incredible all right wide grip he's got a wide grip he got it he got it Way to go.

There we go.

Arm.

Wow.

War mode.

The guy did it.

You get a peck?

You get an emoji.

You just pop a peck?

I'm giving him a look. I just gave him one strength emoji.
Look at that, Billy. I think you have to have 15 emojis on me and PFT's phone individually.
Did he just pop a pec? Yes. Okay.
No, we want you to earn it. Yeah, we want you to earn it.
You know how much more you're going to enjoy this if you earn it? Big Cat. Yeah.
Big Cat. Ask him if he just popped his pec.
Did you just pop your pec? No, he's fine. He's crying about it.
He's got like a little sore shoulder. This happens every day.
Yeah, he'll be fine. He's like Big Ben.
He just like every injury like, oh, this hurts. I don't like the way he's holding his shoulder.
He's fine. Trust me.
I've seen this a million times. That would be so funny if he got reacted.
Can we talk about why you guys have so many plates on for 275? What kind of plates are those? These are bumpers 45, 25, 35, 10s That's the most ridiculous way to get to 275 I've ever heard Yeah, we don't have enough 45s That's all the weights that we have So we were doing max Tuesdays, but then we ran out of weights And so it's just kind of like, I guess we just maxed, I guess we benched all the weight in the world.

Yeah. You can't get any stronger.
Thank God you don't have more.

This guy's pec would shred off.

He's hurt. He's fine.

I'm going to call it right now. He's hurt.

I can see it in his eyes.

He's hurt, not injured. He's saying he had no warm-up,

so he's hurt. I've seen guys

get hurt before. His face looks hurt.

No, he's playing tough,

but yeah, I think he's hurt. He's got resting hurt face.

I think he's hurt. Yeah.

You know what? think he's hurt

he's got resting her face hurt yeah i'm gonna actually give him you know what because he's hurt i'm gonna give him the hospital emoji too so he's got two on my two good job billy all right boys thank you so much we appreciate it uh good luck at teu and we'll talk soon all right yes sir Thank you guys.

Bye, guys.

Good job, Billy.

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Okay, we're going to finish up the show with one of our favorite recurring guests, longtime friend. It is Coach Bo Pelini in studio.
We're going to do a little listener questions. Bo knows ball.
All the AWLs wrote in for you, Bo, so that we can answer their questions. But before we do that, you have a new podcast.
It is called Beyond the Playbook, You and Your Son, coming out soon, right? People can get it soon? Yeah, it should be sometime either later this week or next week. Okay.
So it should be cool. We're very excited for that.
We'll put this in the – we'll tweet it out and make sure everyone knows where to find it. Before we get to the questions, have you commented yet on the Saban versus Jimbo rivalry? Were you shocked? because it did feel like those guys both kind of broke a code, so to speak, of pointing fingers at someone else.
Yeah, you know, I didn't see Saban's comments. But, you know, the thing that's interesting about it is, and I like, I mean, Jimbo's a friend.
I mean, I have a lot of respect for for nick i've known him for a long time uh what did he say i mean i mean no but not my point is is he didn't say i mean what he's what he said about i don't know if he was even trying to be critical no well they did buy they bought their class right right so yeah so i think what he was doing he was talking to business leaders from the tuscaloosa area so i think what he was trying to say is like we got beaten recruiting this year by jimbo and a&m because they're paying kids can we please have some of that money so we don't get beat again right i think that's what he was saying but the way that it came across was saying uh like jimbo fisher buys all his players and buys his recruiting class and then jimbo was like wait a a sec. He took offense to that and fired back at Nick being like, hey, I know.
Which that's the part. I didn't understand why he took offense to it.
All you do. It's legal now.
Yeah. Right.
I mean, a few years ago, I would have taken offense. Yeah.
I feel like it's I don't know if it's legal or if it's just not illegal. You know, like we're kind of in this weird gray area with NIL where nobody really knows what the law is yet right well you can pay kids right here you can guarantee them money i mean you're not doing it personally i mean jimbo's not out there giving them money and but it's that you know it's the alumni it's the with the companies around texas a and i actually like this take because i haven't heard it that like both sides shouldn't be offended because that's kind of the way it is now.
Yeah. I mean, that's what I don't get right now.
I mean, why? They change the rules. I mean, the NCAA, they're the ones who created this.
Right. All Jimbo did was, I mean, you can agree with it or not agree with it, but they spent the money.
Everybody can spend it. Go find the money and spend it.
I mean, I heard they spent a lot of money on their recruiting class. It would have been interesting if Jimbo had flipped it and used it as a positive and been like, yeah, we have a very wealthy, tapped-in alumni base that wants to see the school do well.
Come to Texas A&&m yeah like it kind of is like you know isn't that really what's going on yeah right it also tells me that jimbo is like i think he had he had real thin skin on what nick said meaning that they did not like each other beforehand like jimbo was looking for a reason to be offended by what nick saban was saying so he took yeah i guess you're kind. In a way, like what Nick Saban said was literally the truth about what has happened at Texas A&M.
And then Jimbo was like, wait, wait, wait a second and got pissed off about it. So that just means that Jimbo hates Nick Saban.
I don't, things have changed a lot in the last couple of years if Jimbo hates Nick Saban, because I mean, they work together, I mean, Jimbo is where he is because, you know, because he worked under Nick. And that's a big part of why he got the opportunities that he got.
And I don't know. But, you know, I don't know if Nick was – I didn't see – I didn't actually see the comments and hear how he said it.
But it is what it is. I's legal yeah yeah when we when we like as fans we see guys who work together uh going back at each other we're like wait that's weird because they work together and they should have a relationship is that is that a uh misconception from our part like when guys work together if they work for a few years together there could be they could equally be as enemies or friends walking away from that is that fair absolutely you could be close or you could it could drive you apart I mean uh you know everyone's different to work with you know I mean there there are guys that I worked with that are that I'm tight with and there are guys I mean I, I wouldn't say anybody's my enemy.
Right.

But, you know, it's different.

You know, you work with people every day, and some people you're close with,

and some people, you know, you just don't see eye to eye with.

Yeah, yeah.

I hate Glenny Balls.

What?

Like, there's a guy out there, Glenny Balls,

everyone thinks that we're totally friends.

I want to slit his throat.

I thought you said sweaty balls.

Sweaty balls. We need to hire a guy named Sweaty Balls balls take glenny's job get him out to paint we should no i love glenny but what about you and your brother so you and your brother have you guys gotten closer over the years or were there years where it was like i can't stand being in the same room as this guy i was never like you never felt like that at least i didn't i mean that's, you know, to me, blood's, you know, that's, it runs thick, but yeah, there were, obviously we had our disagreements and sometimes that might've been harder, you know, having a brother, you know, I mean, because it becomes, it gets a little more personal at times, but you know, I, to me, it was always, you know, when you, when you leave this, the office, you leave that, you know, you, you leave it behind, You know, and it's, you know, when you leave the office, you leave it behind, you know.
And you've got to be able to separate all those things. And I think that's the biggest problem that a lot of people have, especially in sports, is being able to leave it behind.
Yeah. I've been reading some articles about, going back and reading about the Harbaugh brothers and how Jim Harbaugh,ugh excuse me john harbaugh he'll do this thing where during the season he brings his cot into his office and he sleeps in his office so he goes home for maybe like two hours a day one day a week and then maybe like on a saturday he'll like you know if they have a home game he'll spend time with his family but to me that always felt like diminishing returns where as a coach you want to be to be like, yeah, I'm the first one in, last one out, I work hard, I watch a lot of film, do all this prep.
But if you're a head coach that's spending like every single second of every single day at your office, I feel like that's almost counterproductive at some point, right? You know, I never bought into that. You know, believe me, I put time in and I never bought into the – you't need it's not rocket science it's football and if to me if you're spending that kind of time and you you don't have a chance to go home see your family see your wife i mean there would not be there'd have to be a major hurricane it would have to be like some something crazy would have to happen for me not to go home right yeah i mean you have to be able to separate though yeah to me you're otherwise you're gonna get burned out right and you're also not gonna be a human being like that's the it's crazy you know being a human being for your players is part of it as well where you're not just you know a football robot um okay so we had people write in uh Jake has the questions.
Bo knows ball.

This is going to be good.

Usually we'll do like guys on chicks or blue collar questions.

Today we're going to do football questions with Coach Bo.

Jake, take it away.

All right.

It seems like players switched positions over the course of their development

and football more than any other sport.

Is that accurate?

And if so, is it because if you're a true football guy deep down

you'll find a place to be successful on the field and make it to the pros even if it takes a few tries oh good question so so so players switching positions back and forth you know i think i think everybody's by the you know people's their their bodies change their you know you might have i I think it happens a lot.

I think it, to me, it doesn't happen enough.

I think it happens a lot. I think it – to me, it doesn't happen enough.
I think some guys' stubbornness not to change positions costs them a future. And, you know, your body is going to change from being in high school to college to, you know, long-term as far as, you know, what are my strengths, what are my weaknesses and I think that I mean there's countless I yeah I can think of guys that even offensive line and defensive yeah like so how tell me how that like if you had an offensive lineman what are you looking at where you're like this guy would be better on the defensive line you know as far as it's probably athleticism like taylor yeah he he could have to me he could have been a d-lineman because he was a he was such a freak athlete but i think of a guy that when i was at lsu he was a top five draft pick this is my first time at lsu back in the you know uh 2006 2007 and i it didn't take long for me to say, you know, he didn't have that quick twitch.
Yeah. And I told him, I said, and he was, I said, you need to move to the offensive line.
And he looked at me like, God, I'm a, I was top five player in the country, you know. And I said, you're going to be a really good, you're going to be a good defensive lineman.
You'll play, and you're going to contribute. But I said, if you want to make a gazillion dollars, you should go to the offensive line.
And did he switch? He ended up switching. And who was that? He didn't switch.
Joe Barksdale. Okay.
And he didn't switch right away. I think he waited until maybe a year after, just after I left,

and I went to Nebraska, and he switched over

and ended up playing in the NFL for a while.

But he would have been a good defensive lineman,

but I said, you're going to be a phenomenal offensive lineman.

Yeah.

And what about when it comes to wide receivers versus cornerbacks?

Is it just a matter of, like, if you can't catch, then go play defense? What are you trying to say? like if you can't catch then go play defense what are you trying to say defensive guys can't catch that's fucked up i mean is it true i feel like it's true for the most part right no like if you're if you're if you got that great of hands let's say that you found a cornerback that had the greatest hands that you've ever seen playing football you'd probably find a way to put them on offense every now and again, right? Yeah, I think so. But I also, you know, there's a bit of a misconception that that's a totally different skill set to play wide receiver and play DB.
It's also, I feel like there's been a transition recently where it used to be cornerbacks have similar skill sets off wide receivers, but they might be maybe not have the height that wide receivers have. It feels like now teams are going after taller corners.
You'll see like six to six, three corners where you maybe wouldn't see that back in the day where it was more like the guys that are five, 11 are playing cornerback. And then you get your six, three guys at receiver.
Is that fair? Because it does feel like cornerback. That's the way it used to be.
Yeah. It's changed now.
But everyone's a little bit different obviously. But I don't...
It's totally different. You take a guy...
I've had guys that I thought would be great wideouts that I thought would be great corners and I put them there and gave them a look, and they just can't figure it out and vice versa. Yeah.
You have to, like, enjoy contact a little bit too. You have to enjoy contact, but you're also – it's more of a reactive position.
I mean, why, you know, obviously wideout, you know what you're doing. When you're a DB, you're you're you're playing reactive and that's a totally different skill set and you know you're playing you're not going this way all the time you're you're backpedaling you're it's just it's just different some guys can make the transition some guys can't did you ever recruit a guy on campus and you thought maybe he'd be a quarterback and it's pretty apparent after like the first year that he should move to wide receiver but he resists moving to wide receiver because he resists for so long because he wants to be the quarterback then his development at receiver gets stunted next thing you know he doesn't get into any games and then he spends the rest of his life being like i should have been a college quarterback oh it happens all the time yeah i.
I bet you go across the country and you see that a ton. That guys that – and I think part of that happens is because people aren't honest.
I was always honest with the kids. If I thought a kid was going to move, I was going to tell them.
Right. Or I was going to say, hey, this is a possibility.
And I'd be honest with them from day one. But some people, they're just going to try to get them to sign on the dotted line and get them and then move them around after.
And that never works well. Right, where a guy thinks he's like, oh, I'm a quarterback, I'm a quarterback.
And then you're like, hey, dude, you're a wide receiver special teams player. He's like, no, I'm not.
Yeah, no doubt. Right.
We know a guy like that. Yeah, we know a guy who still thinks he's quarterback.
He usually sits in that seat, actually. He's not here right now.
I don't know if you've met Billy Football. No.
Actually, Billy Football was, he came with us to the bocce tournament. Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember him.
Yeah, we told him to watch the car, and then when we came back he was blackout drunk so that's billy football

i had a kid when i was at nebraska who was a a good wide receiver wasn't great he was six four

and uh we had some injuries and i i moved i moved him to corner on a monday and started him on on

saturday geez and he knew nothing i mean nothing all you knew how to do with it, I said, don't try to teach him all these things. Just teach him to play press.
Just tell him to get up. And he's not allowed to play off.
And this was like the first time he'd ever played corner in his life. And he went and started against Ohio State and made an interception.
And he ended up playing in the NFL for a few years. Holy shit.
Stanley Gene Baptiste. Wow.
Look it up. I remember that name.
Wow. That's a hell of a story.
All right, Jake, that was a good first question. What do we got next? Bo, what makes a guy a dude on the field slash weight room and what would make a guy a dude at the office? Steve from Tampa.
All right, say that again. How does a guy become a dude? Yeah.
And does it translate from on? So basically he's asking like. What does it mean to be a dude on the football field? And if we were to translate that to the office workplace, what would become a dude? So you do football field.
Maybe we'll fill an office. I think on the floor, does a guy make, to me, kids are tough.
I mean, who really roll up their sleeves and go to work every day. And don't, I mean, that's what it takes to be a dude on the football field.
Who's going to stay, who's going to be who he is. I mean, who's dependable.
Who's going to, you don't have to worry about him. You know, he's not going to be, you know, grabbing his hamstring and trying to duck out of practice, not trying to be that kind of guy.
He's a guy that's going to show up every day, put a good day's work in, and be that guy. Can you tell a dude right away, like when you're watching your football team and you're looking at everyone, you're like, all right, here are the five to six guys that I just know, maybe not the best athletes but the guys that you're like i can depend on them and they're you know everyone will respect them and just the way they carry themselves absolutely and most of the time to me you can watch you can you can see that when you're watching the film when you're either recruiting a kid or you're watching the film for the draft you can tell who those guys or you have a pretty good idea who those guys are yeah and who's not yeah um i'd say in the office i don't know what would be a dude i would say like if you get chewed out by your boss let's say you have like a group assignment you get chewed out by your boss for something that your co-worker did wrong and you keep your mouth shut and you don't you don't say to them no it was actually that person's fault.
If you just take that ass-chewing,

then the person whose fault that it really was will see that

and they're like, I got this guy's back for the rest of my life.

Yeah.

I also think...

And then if it's a guy, if the guy sees that

and saw somebody take an ass-chewing,

that guy is able to walk over to the boss and say, no, it was me.

Yeah.

That would be nice, too.

Yeah.

But otherwise... It kind of goes both ways.
I'm also thinking – To be a dude, you better take – you better own out. To your own mistakes.
I'm also thinking from a very selfish standpoint, if I had just taken my berating, then I know that that person who I saved, I've got them in my pocket for the rest of my life at that office. So I can cash in a favor later.

Yeah, that's true.

Okay, good question.

Jake, your next one.

Dear Coach Pelini, as a football guy,

what is the go-to breakfast and drink to start your day before practice?

Does it change in game day to certain meals,

or is the routine kind of the same every day?

I'd like to think you'd be a morning chili or maybe a waffles kind of guy.

Why not both?

Get that piss hot.

Chili on the waffles.

Yeah. I kind of ate.
I didn't really give a shit what time we were playing i pretty much ate the same thing every before every game which was uh some meat obviously some steak or something like that i'll be kind of what the players did yeah some steak a little bit of pasta and uh that's about it i didn't i wasn't a big eater before games, but I was going to have some spaghetti and I was going to have a little bit of meat that was going to carry me through all day. Yeah.
What did you have before the 2017 National Championship game against JMU? Same, but probably exactly the same thing. That's what I ate before every game.
I'm a creature of habit and kind of have my, what do you call it? I'm superstitious in some way. What about in the morning, like a regular Tuesday morning? Is it coffee right away? I eat oatmeal and that's it.
That's it? No coffee? I have a little bit. I probably have a coffee sometimes.
Okay, oatmeal and coffee. I want to start doing that.
So you're not one of the coaches that just pounds caffeine all the time like coach oh he drinks like or our guy dana 17 red bulls a day yeah the two of them yeah coach down a keg of the stuff he's just red bulls all day yeah i i couldn't remember it oh oh drank he drank red bulls all day i couldn't remember yeah maybe months yeah he had to um yeah I think he said he had to curtail the Red Bull intake after he got up to about 12 a day.

But Dana's probably still around.

Oh, yeah.

He doesn't.

He just goes out.

Well, Dana doesn't sleep.

Yeah.

Correct.

Correct.

Yeah.

So he just drinks Red Bull all day.

Yeah.

Yeah, but I got to tell you, if I let myself.

I mean, I love Coca-Cola, like regular Coke, like the old Coke classic. I mean, if I let myself, I mean, I love Coca-Cola, like regular Coke,

like the old Coke classic.

I mean, if I let myself, I'd drink 15 a day.

But, yeah, this football guy didn't know that you got to stop yourself.

Yeah, I mean, I just like the taste of it.

I mean, out of caffeine, I'm sure that's part of it.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

All the sugar.

Yeah, but I don't, you know, but the Red Bull and all that,

the monsters, all that shit, I won't drink that stuff.

I don't like that.

Okay, next question.

Do you guys like that?

I'll see drink that stuff. I don't like that.
Okay. Do you guys like that? I just do coffee all day.
Yeah. I look at Red Bull like it's medicine, where I don't really like the taste, but I don't really care about the taste.
I just know that I have to take it, and I'll stay awake. Well, I'll do Red Bull late at night.
When we record late at night, I'll do a Red Bull, because it always feels silly to have a coffee at 10 p.m., even though I'm doing the same thing with the Red Bull. I don't know why, but that's the only time.
Yeah, but I'm like probably four or five cups of coffee a day. Wow.
A lot of friends, a lot of people I know drink, they'll have Red Bull and like, that's what they use as their mixer with their mixture. Yeah, well, Red Bull and vodka, that's a good way to start a party.
Yeah. For sure.
I mean, it would be wired, wouldn't it? Oh, yeah. You keep the party going all day.
All in one. It's basically like a classy Four Loko.
That's what Four Loko tried to accomplish. Yeah.
But they flew too close to the sun. Red Bull vodka is a good way if you're out at a bar and you find yourself dragging, maybe dragging like maybe it's like 10 11 o'clock quick one of those and you're back that's that's what you got to do there you go yeah all right next question do you have to play on real grass to be considered a true football guy oh absolutely at some point you have at some point yeah like like you gotta at some point i mean right i mean yeah at some point you gotta be The has to go, and you've got to have a grass sticking out of your face mask.
Imagine being a kid growing up playing sports, and you never come home with a grass stain on your jersey. It's crazy.
That's part of the deal. Oh, yeah.
I mean, you've got a lot of kids. I was just watching a baseball game the other day.
I went to see my nephew play, and it was in Columbus. These high school kids, they're playing on – like the infield was field turf.
Yeah, right, right. I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah.
Baseball on field turf makes no sense. We didn't even have grass.
We just played – it was just like those – you remember the old – it was like all dirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like some rocks that just showed up out of dirt yeah yeah rocks that just showed up it's like don't slide in a second because your knee is going to get skinned do you like though as a football coach knowing field turf like at least you don't have to it's like one less variable do you appreciate that oh for sure i mean but you know yeah but you gotta at some point you gotta have there has to be some grass I agree. I agree.
I like the grass fields. With field surf, you can, yeah, but you got to at some point you got to have there has to be some grass.
I agree. Yeah, I agree.
I like the grass fields with field turf.

You can't grow the field turf out to slow down a faster opponent.

True. I've always wondered about that, too, because I wonder if they could do like different pellets.

Those rubber pellets, your slower ones, your pellets.

You know, like Notre Dame used to grow their grass out if they'd be playing like USC or something like that.

They'd be like, OK, they're much faster than us. But I always thought like that would slow that would slow your defense down too right yeah like doesn't go everyone gets slower so the fast guys still are faster yeah yeah i think it's kind of all bullshit to be honest with you it's a mind game yeah the better team that the better team is gonna win yeah yeah i had a kid – I'm not going to tell you where because I did coach this kid.
There was a kid that couldn't figure out why. We had a field turf.
We were playing on field turf, and he was saying – he said, I don't understand this. I always see them water.
Because they would water the field turf to get the rubber pellets to kind of sink in and spray and stuff. He was like, I see people all the time watering.
I never see anybody cutting it. It was Will Compton.
Yeah, it was Will Compton. That was Will Compton, right? It was Will Compton.
Yeah, it was Will. All right, next question.
When it's a QB sneak situation, why don't coaches sub in a big boy to push the pile? Or why don't they put two or three big boys behind the QB to push the pile? You could even have a sneak specialist. Good question.
Well, some people do that. They've pushed.
They get those big fat guys. I mean, I don't know whether they get linemen and stuff, but they'll get where they're like two yards behind the quarterback.
But that's one thing that I don't think a lot of people practice enough yeah and it's crazy too because how I don't understand how teams don't practice it more when you watch what the Patriots have done and what Tom Brady like Tom Brady probably the thing he's most elite at is getting a yard when he needs to yeah and it's such an underrated thing where it's like why would you know on third and one or fourth and one like always being able to get get that yard always finding that little seam and falling forward you see teams try to do it in a key situation you're like yep you're right they haven't practiced that like they don't know what they're doing there's no question and let me tell you at some point it's going to cost people games I was watching a bowl game where they had, I mean, I'm telling you,

like an inch and a half to go, and this team punted.

And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, I mean, that's crazy.

I mean, you do that, A, you don't deserve to win if you can't get.

Wait, what bowl game was that?

I'm trying to think about it.

Was it Northwestern Kentucky?

It was Kentucky.

No, it was Iowa and Kentucky.

Iowa and Kentucky, okay. Well, Iowa punts all the time anyway i just loves to punt but i couldn't understand why they didn't you know yeah why you don't just go get that one yard yeah i mean with end the game do you do you believe in that do you believe in that theory that like because that's what i always tell myself when it's fourth and one.
You're like, hey, go for this.

And I always just do the old mantra like,

if you can't get one yard, you don't deserve to win.

Is that fair to say?

But I think there's a whole different.

There's one yard and then there's inches.

I mean, a yard's a full yard.

I don't know. That can be hairy.

But when I'm talking about this much. this much you gotta be able to get that you have to be able to get her you really you probably don't deserve to win the football yeah it does seem to me like the great quarterbacks are good at all these small little details like tom brady like we said they he will get a yard on a quarterback sneak every time usually like two yards um aaron rogers on fourth down when he goes out there with the hard count he's just like I don't know if it's the amount of practice that he puts in with his offensive line but it does Big Cat always says that he's cheating when he does it because it's so it's so good and they practice it so often I feel like those little details right there would be things that more quarterbacks would like copy and try to emulate but sometimes they get out there on fourth down they just kind of look lost and they're like okay i guess i'll just run the play as called and not try to work on this thing but like the small things like that that makes a big difference between being like i don't know like a four and six team and six and four team yeah no i mean but the detail matters and and there's also you know it's hard to is it from a defensive standpoint, to stop a sneak?

Obviously, you've got to load up.

And you've got to kind of go all in to make it happen.

If offensive guys will just change the picture a little bit, add somebody in or bring a wide out in,

and you just change the picture a little bit,

and you're not going to get stopped. Yeah, yeah.
Who's the best defensive player you've ever coached? The best defensive player that I've ever coached. That's a good question.
In college? Yeah. I think that probably for that, for about the last half of his senior year, Sue was probably – he was as dominant as you could possibly be.
Were you the coach in that Texas game? Yeah. Yeah, that was one of the greatest games I've ever played by Sue.
He almost won that game for you guys by himself. Well, we did win the game.
Wait. Oh, yeah, yeah.
One second left. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You did. You put a second back on the clock.
You're right. You did win the game.
We lost. We lost, but you won.
But that was one of, like, if you don't know that game, Big 12 finals, Nebraska versus Texas, Sue was just an absolute, like, he wrecked the entire game. Yeah, we killed.
We dominated them. We dominated them.
I mean, they were good. They had, I mean, they went to the national championship game.
I think they put, what, 35 or something up on Alabama? Yeah. They lost to Alabama like 38-35 or whatever it was.
I mean, they couldn't get. That was the one that probably got hurt, I think.
Yeah. Gary Gilbert.
Yeah. Yeah.
They couldn't get first downs against us. Yeah.
I like how you're holding on that you won the game. I mean, they did.
You got me confused there for a second. I was like, wait.
No, we did. Oh, yeah, you did.
Yeah, no. They put...
That was actually the next question. Time just...
All right, go ahead. Did Colt McCoy's pass in the 2009 Big 12 championship game fall incomplete before or after time expired? Well, let me tell you.
Until somebody will show me a split screen, well, here's the ball hitting and here's the time running out. The time ran out.
There was nothing, there was no evidence to say that that ball hit. They're not supposed to turn it on.
The clock isn't supposed to stop until the ball actually hits something right and i i think they like went back and they they said that it hits something on the sidelines that was like sticking up right that was a screw job it was it was i was in austin because they wouldn't they wanted texas to go to the national championship game let's let's face it yeah they wanted they wanted they wanted to make sure that a team from the big 12. Yeah.
And they won the game. The game was over.
Right. Texas in general going to a championship, they know that that's going to put butts in seats.
And so they didn't want you guys to take that away from all the money that they stood to make. And it was a screw job.
I was in Austin watching it, actually, at a Longhorn bar. Everybody in the bar thought the game was over.
Yeah. And then when they put the second back on, nobody knew where it came from.
They just saw that the official was like, no, the ball landed out of bounds. We're going to put a second back on one more play.
Go for it. It was bullshit.
I agree with you about that. That game though, you should, everyone should go watch that game because Sue, I just looked it up.
It was, it was 12 tackles as a defensive tackle, 12 tackles, seven for a loss, four and a half sacks. You can't be more dominant than that.
As a defensive tackle in a game, not an edge rusher, four and a half sacks. Let me tell you, our defense that year, I mean, obviously, Sue, as I told you, is a huge part of it, but our defense that year, if you go back and look at the stats from that defense, that was an unbelievable defense.
Yeah, yeah. We didn't have a lot of offense on that team.
I would say I truly believe at the end of the year, nobody in the country could have beat us. What was your record at the end of that year? 11-2 or 10-2.
Maybe it would have been in the college football playoff if there was an expanded one. Whenever people talk about the college football playoff and the expansion, it's like those teams that maybe have one or two losses, but they have an elite, elite, elite side of the ball.
It's like, I want to see them in there. I want to see them mix with someone else.
And we got better as a year went on. We lost, I think we lost Iowa State that year.
We turned the ball over like eight times, five times inside going in, inside the 10-yard line. And we lost like 9-7.
Something crazy like that. Jesus.
All right, we got any others? We got one more. Okay, let's do it.
What's up, Bo and Billy Football somewhere out in the woods? if you could take over a program today say like the nebraska football team what would you do to get them back to a national powerhouse thanks well i think anything to get somebody back to a national powerhouse you've got to you know you've got to do things right and you've got to you got to recruit well obviously and uh i and i think this is the biggest misconception that the average fan has.

Every place you go would take different things to try to get them going.

Yeah.

You can't just say, okay, if I went to Nebraska or I went to Ohio State

or I went to whoever, Purdue or whatever, every single situation is different. So you've got to run your program a little bit differently and different things will actually lead to winning.
I don't think people understand that. You're not going to go to Army and be like, we're going to spread them out.
Right, exactly. We're going to go air raid.
Well, yeah, it's playing to the strengths of also geography. It's like I always think about – I mean, how do you recruit? Yeah, like when Barry Alvarez took over at Wisconsin, his press conference was like, there's a lot of fat people in Wisconsin.
We're going to build a line. Yeah.
And like that kind of stuff where it's like, hey, this is what it is. You play to your strength.
There's no doubt. And recruiting-wise, you have to do that.
And you can't be stubborn about it. You know know i always say that the best jobs coaching or the the people that under the people who can beat people with the people they didn't want oh that's good i like that that's and you know i don't think people understand that like if you got to go in and you know five or six weeks out of the year you're going to go in and you're not going to have the best players, but you've got to figure out other ways to win.
There's the little things, the detail, the big culture part of things. And I think that's part of college football now that's going to be missing.
Yeah. With the transfer portal and all the other bullshit that's going on it's get harder and harder for those

teams that aren't the elite in really elite recruiting places to develop a culture that's good enough to to beat those you know to beat the teams that really have have recruiting advantages now the debate has had a lot um and i'd love to hear your take what is the best job in america what like you know and you can tackle it from from any perspective but let's just say what's the best job in terms of the recruiting base and like you go there and you should win a national title uh i mean obviously i think alabama's up there i think that there's not, but I think there's probably, you know, four, five or six. Usually people say Ohio state, Georgia, Alabama, or LSU, Alabama, you know, yes, but also that's a lot of Saban.
And then they'll throw in USC because of the talent on the West Coast,

and they are the West Coast team. I'm trying to think.
Texas always gets mentioned, but now Texas obviously has to deal with Texas A&M, and there's a lot of Oklahoma's done well. And then I think people also throw in Florida, a school where you can get insane talent in state.
Those schools. Yeah, I think so.
But I also think the interesting part of it is that that's going to evolve too because you mentioned a lot of those programs and i wouldn't disagree with any of those programs but then you have to add on top of it an athletic director and a president and an administration that gets it yeah to allow you to take advantage of the things that, I mean, let's face it. That's one of the reasons why Alabama, I mean, obviously Nick Saban's a great coach.
He always has been and he does a great job. But their administration, allowing him to do things the way they have to be done, And that goes a long way.
Yeah. And there are places where the administration gets in the way and they screw it up.
That's actually, I would say, you know, there's a lot of reasons, and we could do a whole podcast about it, but one of the biggest reasons there's been such a big gap open between Oklahoma and Texas is the administration at Oklahoma seemingly being strong throughout everything, always having their coaches back, that seamless transition they had from Stoops to Lincoln Riley to now going to the next guy, Venables, they'll probably be just fine. And Texas has a carousel going on ever since Mack Brown left.
Yeah. I mean, there's reasons why things are turning over all the time.
I mean, I don't know everything that goes on at Texas, but there's something missing for that. There's something missing somewhere.
Yeah. They've got all these boosters who all think that they control the program by themselves.
So you've got guys with names on all the buildings on campuses, and they all think that they're the most important person in the football program at texas and there's no like strong administration to like rein them in and keep them in check and go one-on-one with the coach that's what mac brown was actually probably the best at even in the years where he started to tail off he's a great handshaker like he'll go out he'll talk to anybody he'll make you feel like you're the most important booster to the program. And the guys they got after him are not like that at all.
So it creates a lot of strife. So sometimes, like, the best jobs in theory, you don't realize that it's going to be like that TV show Succession around you all the time where everyone's, like, stabbing each other in the back over everything, which is not anything that you'd ever actually be prepared for in a job until you got there.
Yeah, how would you even know that that's going to go on? I mean, you could have a pretty good idea. But could you imagine somebody, that would never happen at Alabama.
Right. Ever.
There's no way. And I don't know, obviously part of that's because of Nick, but their administration wouldn't allow it.
Some booster's not going to walk into Nick Saban's office and say, you've got to do this. Yeah.
You've got to do that. I mean, Nick would tell them to go pound salt.
I mean, if it was going to take away from them having the ability to win. But you know that goes on all the time.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Coach, it's been awesome.
Everyone go listen to Beyond the Playbook. Again, we'll link to it.

It's coming out soon.

Love catching up with you.

We're going to do numbers now.

You want to guess a number?

Yeah.

We got the lottery ball machine.

One through 99.

One through 99.

Oh, hundreds in there.

Hundreds in there.

It is?

I'm going to guess 26.

What's your guess?

10.

If you get that right, that'll be incredible.

25. 39.
69. 69.
For memes. Oh, boy.
Unfortunately, you don't get anything if you win. I should.
12. 12.
Very close. That's a good quarterback number.
That's a great quarterback number. I was closest, though.

Yeah.

So you were.

So you win satisfaction.

What do I win?

Satisfaction.

Congratulations.

That's a crock of shit.

All right.

Thanks, Coach.

We appreciate it.

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