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Speaker 1 The Miami Heat have an incredible third quarter. Jimmy Butler, all-time performance,

Speaker 1 stops the Celtics, who look like they were cruising, win game one, and Jake and Hank are already kind of at each other's throats.

Speaker 2 Boys?

Speaker 7 I don't think we are.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 5 Hank, would you agree?

Speaker 8 It was fine. Everything was going fine.

Speaker 8 Nothing too sportsmanship. And then Jake, the Heat fan, at the end of the game, when the Celtics were down like 12, basically had to have a three and a stop on every possession.

Speaker 8 A rebound goes up, and Jake, if you didn't know he was a Heat fan, sounded a lot like a Celtic fan and was like, oh, here come the Celtics.

Speaker 1 No, even though the game was over, exaggeration.

Speaker 2 Oh, we have it on alarm.

Speaker 2 Exaggeration. Stop stream arm.

Speaker 1 It was exaggeration alarm.

Speaker 2 You made a rear. You made like, oh, the Celtics.
So I missed what I thought was going to be a dagger. And then I was just like, oh, that was it.

Speaker 9 Literally it. No words.

Speaker 5 I think that's the exaggeration alarm. Just whoop, whoop, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, like, Celtics have a chance here. Like, this is.
Didn't say that, though. Billy, Billy, can Billy, please enter.

Speaker 1 Billy texted me right before saying, low-key shitting my pants right now, so start without me.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 1 was it low-key or high key?

Speaker 2 Low-key. Okay, all right.

Speaker 5 Hey, Hank, a lot of people are saying, a few people alerted to me this in the chat, but um, you had a little injury. You were playing dinged up for like the second half of the game there.

Speaker 5 What happened? Because you said before we started the podcast that you got a funny bone injury. Some people said that you hurt your elbow doing a double fist pump.

Speaker 2 Oh, no.

Speaker 8 See, that's where it's like, you're just out of your, you're just, literally, this is propaganda PFP.

Speaker 8 This is his, what he does with the NFL. If you watch the stream, you watch the clip.
I told you that I had a funny bone injury, and then you just literally, I watched your

Speaker 8 vent the story out of your own mind.

Speaker 5 No, you told me how you heard it by slamming your elbow down onto the arm of a chair. But it was

Speaker 5 a bad thing.

Speaker 2 It's hard to control it.

Speaker 1 I put my hands up in disgust, like, what the heck just happened and in my motion to put it down i hit my funny ball so what the fuck did just happen because jimmy butler all i know is jimmy butler had 41 it's back to last year when he said he was stupidly locked in in the playoffs that was like he was doing everything he's blocking shots he was scoring at will they went 39 to 14 in the third quarter it the celtics actually

Speaker 1 I think we all kind of felt it because the Celtics played a really good first half. And then then you looked up and you're like, wait, they're only up by like six here or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 It was eight at that hour. It was eight and a half thousand.

Speaker 5 But it was crazy because they were shooting so well, 60% from the field in the first half.

Speaker 5 And then Jimmy Butler, no man has wanted 40 points more than Jimmy Butler wanted 40 points at the end of that game.

Speaker 5 Jay Butt was going to shoot the ball in every possession at the end of the game just to put the 40 spot up there. What is a 40?

Speaker 5 It's a 50 Burger, 60 lobster, 70 taco.

Speaker 1 I think 40 is just a fucking great game.

Speaker 5 I think it's a 40-piece. It's a 40-piece.

Speaker 1 He 40-piece him. He was also like crazy, crazy efficient because he went 12 for 19 from the field and 17 for 18 from free throw, which the Celtics couldn't.

Speaker 2 I felt like they missed like one of every two.

Speaker 10 24-32, 75%.

Speaker 5 Eight. And on the defensive end, he was awesome, too.
He was stealing the ball like every time Doc.

Speaker 5 And to all the haters out there that say, oh, Jimmy Butler never D's up against the opponent's best player, I saw him guarding Grant Williams for most of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was,

Speaker 1 he was all over the place. That was the Jimmy Butler game.
We also should mention that the Celtics did have Al Horford out with COVID, Marcus Smart out with a foot, but maybe not.

Speaker 8 We saw his foot. We were sitting next to his agent and his agent mentioned something about his foot and we saw it bleeding on the sideline after when we took a picture with him.

Speaker 2 A bleeding foot. But that's not really what they reported, so I'm kind of confused.

Speaker 5 What could a bleeding foot be? No Boston sports star has ever come back from a bleeding foot.

Speaker 2 That's what it looked like, honestly.

Speaker 8 It was like you looked down and the front of his foot was just like bleeding.

Speaker 5 That's crazy because I think they did report it as a foot sprain. But if there's blood coming out, like, I don't know, it's stigmata.
That's not a. Is that a torso?

Speaker 2 Is that a thing?

Speaker 5 Bro, football doc, what's your diagnosis? Burst blister.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Burst blister.
Okay.

Speaker 5 I mean, if I'm going to take Hank's side on this a little bit, I think that I should just to stir the pot a little bit against Jake.

Speaker 5 The game is absolutely a much different entire setup if they've got Al Horford playing and Marcus Smart playing.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 But the Heat didn't have Kyle Lowry and the PA announcer, Mr.

Speaker 9 Dos Minutos, was out due to his dollars graduation.

Speaker 2 I'm going to throw it out.

Speaker 10 Cancels out with Marcus Smart in my eyes.

Speaker 1 That guy doesn't care enough. The fact that he went to a graduation instead of the Eastern Conference finals.
You're the Dos Minutos guy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was it a college graduation?

Speaker 10 No, it was like high school. Columbia medical school.

Speaker 2 Oh, it was medical school? So

Speaker 5 it was like the third graduation. Get out of here.

Speaker 2 I got to double check. Yeah, that guy survived.

Speaker 1 They survived without the Dos Minutos.

Speaker 6 That's right.

Speaker 2 That was a big.

Speaker 5 yeah the classic miami knife showing up we also

Speaker 1 we also should mention that um i think i i was searching quickly i i think that was the best playoff game nba playoff game by a gabe ever in gabriel vincent who was awesome he was he he had that like stretch where he was hitting everything um he had 17 points hank how are you like bad yeah because they won three out of four quarters this is a and lost by 11.

Speaker 2 oh um

Speaker 5 damn i didn't realize they won three out of four quarters.

Speaker 8 Well, that should count for something. 39 to 14.

Speaker 1 I said beforehand, and everyone laughed at me, but with the COVID thing,

Speaker 1 it did feel to me like the Celtics are like in the unknown right now. I think it's bullshit that anyone should be out for COVID.

Speaker 1 It's like it should be like the NFL playoffs where COVID just didn't exist. Al Horford's out possibly for the second game, and who knows what's going to happen to the rest of the team.

Speaker 1 But are you worried about about that at all?

Speaker 8 I'm in full-blown denial about that because that would just lose my mind. I don't think I would cease to exist if that were the case.

Speaker 8 And right now, I'm hoping that Adam Silver takes a book from Goodell's playbook, and once they have a bunch of tests, and they get worried, because it affects the game.

Speaker 8 It's like everyone's talking about COVID and not about the game.

Speaker 5 No, are they testing like asymptomatically? Is it part of a procedure, or did he have

Speaker 5 coughing and had a fever and shit?

Speaker 1 I think that from what I understand, Al Horford doesn't have the booster, and then the big issue is Jalen Brown is not vaccinated.

Speaker 1 So that's where it's like a little dicey or people don't think he's vaccinated. So I think it's one of those things where people have asked and he said he hasn't given a straight answer.

Speaker 5 Because of several games that he hasn't played in this year.

Speaker 1 And I agree, though, Hank. Like, if you could be the biggest Celtics hater in the world, you could be the biggest Heat fan in the world.

Speaker 1 If you think that like COVID in the spring of 2022 should be deciding playoff series, you're crazy. Like, that's bullshit.
But it has to be at least discussed. Because Al Hovard missed tonight.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to discuss it.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 8 I'm just going to

Speaker 2 what Taylor West Taylor Swift say?

Speaker 8 I'm removing myself from that narrative.

Speaker 2 Okay. I like that.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 5 I'm not running for the Celtics.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 why?

Speaker 5 Because they're game changers. What do you mean?

Speaker 2 Free thinkers. Okay, gotcha.
Got it. Okay.

Speaker 5 But they're not.

Speaker 1 You're vaccinated, Billy.

Speaker 2 Billy doesn't like when we say that he's vaccinated.

Speaker 2 It hurts his street credit.

Speaker 5 Isn't it a possibility, though, that the Celtics were the ones that

Speaker 5 are doing most of the testing on their own just to keep anyone who's possibly infected away from Jalen Brown?

Speaker 2 Well, no,

Speaker 1 they were on a flight together. They were in practice together.
Like, there were pictures that were shown of Al Horford standing in the huddle at practice, like, earlier today.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 So that's why it has to be at least discussed. Again, I think it's bullshit.
I don't think anyone should have to sit out at this point.

Speaker 5 I think if you're sick, if you're actually sick, you probably should be playing.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's at least needs to be discussed because it seems like it's going to be a storyline in this series. Even if it's just Al Horford misses game two, he's clearly important.

Speaker 2 Hank,

Speaker 1 your denial, not panic.

Speaker 8 Denial, not panic.

Speaker 8 It was a winnable game. They won three out of four quarters.
They looked great in the second half. Jalen Brown.
I mean, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown played bad. He just played bad, threw up a stinker.

Speaker 1 He might have COVID.

Speaker 8 In the fourth quarter. Well, he came alive in the fourth quarter, but the game was already decided.
Jason Tatum had like 100 points in the first half and then shot the ball four times.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened in the third quarter.

Speaker 5 The bigger concern is like you guys couldn't get the ball off the court. It was like it was shades of game five.

Speaker 2 Like they were just having horrible.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing with the Celtics. And this is a real ⁇ like Marcus Smart is their point guard.
And it does feel like at times they don't have anyone else they truly trust dribbling the ball.

Speaker 2 And he's not even a real point guard. Right.

Speaker 1 And you saw it in this game where it's like, what's going on here?

Speaker 1 The heat just kept on getting transition dunks, steal, dunk, steel, dunk, over and over in that third quarter. And then you get to a point where Jake is fake cheering for the Celtics in your face.

Speaker 6 And you have to be honest.

Speaker 2 He was trying to give me hope.

Speaker 8 That's what he was doing. Like, it was as if Jake was a neutral fan watching the game and was like, oh, you know, Hank's my guy.
I'm going to

Speaker 2 good for him.

Speaker 8 I want Hank to be happy, so I'm going to try and will the Celtics a victory. That was the noise that he made.

Speaker 2 You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 He apologizes for beating you as he hardly hardly hardly hit. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 This might be good for you.

Speaker 5 As he's beating you harder,

Speaker 5 he's like the hangman. He's like, hey, I'm sorry.
That looks like it hurts. Let me just pull this rope up a little bit more.

Speaker 2 This might be good for you. I'm rooting for you.
Exactly.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Jake, if you're getting beat by somebody.

Speaker 5 He's not. And somebody is apologizing to you.

Speaker 5 Can you imagine how that could make one angry?

Speaker 11 I understand.

Speaker 10 I've done that before, but in this instance, you guys are blowing it out of proportion.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Well, we're on edge because Z-Ser Conference Finals. I demanded, I saw Hank blow up at you while we're sitting in the gambling cave, and I just put a quick shutdown to it.

Speaker 1 I said, save it all for the show. No one say another word.

Speaker 1 And yeah, this is what we're going to get. And Hank's not even looking at you right now.
He's not giving you eye contact. It's going to be tense in here.
This is what the listeners want.

Speaker 1 This is sports, baby.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Jake, we're just like, I don't know.
I don't know how to actually make it honest.

Speaker 5 Let's make it better. Let's make it better.
Jake, would you apologize to Hank for beating him tonight?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 1 But you should, because they won three out of four quarters.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's kind of an asterisk on your win.

Speaker 5 Like, he had two of his best players out tonight.

Speaker 1 And three out of four quarters.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and also that.

Speaker 8 You guys are trying to make me take the bait.

Speaker 5 No, I just think that it would be the polite thing, the sportsmanship thing to do.

Speaker 2 It's a long series. That's right.

Speaker 5 You don't have to show good sportsmanship. Okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 It's a long series.

Speaker 2 Don't seriously.

Speaker 5 Don't be a good sport.

Speaker 10 This was more of a must-win for the Heat than the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Thursday night

Speaker 1 without their starters. Yeah, should we stream on Thursday night? We probably should because I like watching you guys just sit there next to each other, interact.

Speaker 2 It's just fun. It's nothing happened on the stream.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but just having you guys watch a game together definitely makes it better.

Speaker 5 Nothing from you happened on the stream, but your presence as you're winning, it does affect Hank, physically.

Speaker 2 I understand.

Speaker 1 And there was a moment where Hank was talking sweep in the first quarter. He was saying this is the Jalen Brown, Justin Tatum show.

Speaker 10 Said five

Speaker 2 Sunday show, which is still in play. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There you go. Take that, Hank.
All right.

Speaker 5 Wait, there was one other thing that I noticed in the game. Pat Riley.
You see, when they cut to him, they always have to cut to Pat Riley like once or twice a year.

Speaker 2 Alonzo Morning.

Speaker 5 And Alonzo Morning.

Speaker 2 Oh, and Haslam, by the way. Haslam is a coach.

Speaker 5 He's a coach on the court on the bench. Yes.
It's awesome. He's like giving hand signals and stuff on the sidelines.
It's incredible watching him. But they showed Pat Riley tonight.

Speaker 5 I'm a little concerned what's going on with old Pat because he had no hair gel in at all. It was like he got a Brazilian blowout.

Speaker 1 He is old.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but I mean, that doesn't, old people put a shitload of hair gel in them.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I just think he might be at the, like, I'm not even trying anymore.

Speaker 5 See, I never thought that Pat Riley would reach that age. And it was like he had a little mini fro going on.

Speaker 2 Pat Riley was born before Hitler died.

Speaker 1 Wow. He's 77 years old.
Just looked it up. March 20th, 1945.
He's an old guy. He's been around for a long time.
He's the godfather. He's incredible.
He is.

Speaker 5 No, listen, I love Pat Riley. Pat Riley is an all-time basketball mind.
Yes.

Speaker 5 When I see Pat Riley, I want to see him slick back. I want to see him wearing a shirt that's too cool for me to even wear.

Speaker 1 I get what you're saying. You're right.
You're right. Alonzo Morning still looks like he'd give anyone 15 and 10 at any point.
We also had, so let's just say this. Long series, Hank.

Speaker 1 You lost game one against the Bucs. It's no big deal.
Series doesn't start till you lose at home.

Speaker 2 True. So you're all good.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We also had the draft lottery tonight, which was fun. The Magic.

Speaker 8 I didn't actually even register that happening. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Would you like to break the news to me?

Speaker 1 Well, yes, the Magic got the first pick.

Speaker 2 Who got the second pick?

Speaker 1 I can't even remember. Was it Thunder?

Speaker 5 Thunder were top four. I know that.

Speaker 8 Was there any good guests in the crowd?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Rip Hamilton was there.
Didn't put on his mask. It was sitting next to him.

Speaker 1 Thunder, too. I'm convinced that that removed the pick for the Pistons.

Speaker 2 A wagon. Thunder have a billion picks.

Speaker 1 Who else is? Oh, Anderson Verjow was there, which I thought he was still playing, but he was there for the Cavs.

Speaker 5 He'll be on the Lakers next year.

Speaker 2 LeBron will bring him back.

Speaker 1 He'll definitely be on the Lakers. I'm trying to think

Speaker 1 who else was there. There was one GM that was there, which

Speaker 1 that's the saddest thing you can do. Like, that spot is for

Speaker 1 a fan, a player, a mascot. You don't

Speaker 5 was it Swin Cash

Speaker 1 from the Pelicans? Maybe. I don't know.
You just can't.

Speaker 5 You can't do that. It's almost beneath you

Speaker 2 at that point.

Speaker 5 That's for a giveaway. That's a ticket that you give to a fan that had a part of the stadium fall on them earlier this year.
And you're trying to make it up to them. You're like, hey, listen,

Speaker 5 I'll give you an autographed, like, I don't know, like, 1999 six-man that we had Jersey. And then I'll also let you sit next to the envelopes.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 8 This was Jamie Gertz. She was always a mind-blown moment.
Yes. She would be there for the Hawks.

Speaker 1 We also had an all-time record scratch moment in the gambling cave, which could have been the greatest Mike Greenberg dumb rule ever.

Speaker 1 Dougs, Coach Douglas, who is our colleague, said after the lottery was decided.

Speaker 8 The real Coach Douglass.

Speaker 1 The real Coach Dougs, he said,

Speaker 2 actually the fake Coach Dougs. Yeah, yeah.
The

Speaker 2 what, brought to life?

Speaker 5 The reanimated Frankenstein?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Unanimated, reanimated?

Speaker 2 Animated.

Speaker 1 No, no, he's not animated.

Speaker 5 He's like the 3D version of the team.

Speaker 2 He's live action when they did the Halloween. It's live action.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Live action Coach Douglas.

Speaker 5 Yeah, when they did, yeah, the Halloween.

Speaker 8 It's a cartoon come to life. Yes.
Yes. Live action.

Speaker 1 So anyway, they finished the lottery, and he just goes, So

Speaker 1 when do they start picking?

Speaker 2 And I was like, we were like, wait, what? What? It does make sense.

Speaker 5 So that's one reason why I think that the NFL will definitely implement this at some point in the future because you get an entire new night of ratings out of this extravagant.

Speaker 5 Roger Goodell will figure out a way to make the NFL draft lottery like six hours long. Right.
Presented by Northrop Cumming, and he'll bring out like the Girl Scouts and the troops.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's turned into like a massive thing.

Speaker 1 But could you imagine how electric it would be if they did the lottery, and then they're like, all right, Magic, you got 10 minutes, you're on the clock.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got to have your draft boards in order.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't know where you're going to pick, and let's go.

Speaker 2 Get at it.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think they should do that from now on. It would be an electric moment.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think what else. Well, we had hockey.

Speaker 1 I'm still not, oh, yeah, the Panthers lost, Jake.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, I tweeted this yesterday morning, so it's a little bit of old news, but the fact that the NHL put the Heat and the Panthers together six of the seven nights, especially games one and two when they're both home 40 minutes away, is an absurd decision.

Speaker 12 Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 No, it's no respect. You've got no respect for you.
No respect now.

Speaker 10 You're South Florida.

Speaker 5 You've got us against the world now.

Speaker 10 Yeah, we've been that way, but it's nice because

Speaker 10 the next two weeks, like, if one loses, you'd be like, all right, I still have the other one. So unless it's a reverse sweeps, you're getting a big win somewhere.

Speaker 2 Now, I don't want to...

Speaker 1 This is your fan base, the Heat, but they are like, you know, remember last year in the finals when we were watching the finals games, and we're like, damn,

Speaker 1 Phoenix Suns fan base, like, this would be the coolest part of it.

Speaker 6 I never said it about Miami, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 No, every single time they show a person in Miami, I'm like, douchebag, douchebag, douchebag. I don't know.
Do they always, everyone always wears white linen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, white hot heat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, white hot heat.

Speaker 1 There was the guy with the, he was wearing like a backpack in the front of Louis Vuitton.

Speaker 2 Miami. Yeah.
Jake thought Flowrider was pit bull. No.
Oh, no. Yeah, I said, yes.

Speaker 9 I knew it was one of them.

Speaker 2 I said both names. You thought you you had your double dip and you guys were double dip.

Speaker 8 Who'd you say first?

Speaker 10 I may have said Plitbull.

Speaker 2 They look a lot alike, right? Yeah.

Speaker 9 They're both bald, right? They both wear sunglasses inside. They don't look anything alike.

Speaker 5 Nothing alike.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's also Mr. Worldwide.
You should know Mr. Worldwide.

Speaker 10 The other one's Mr. 305, I believe.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 that's the same guy. Pitbull, yeah, Pitbull double.
He does everything. Mr.
305 and World War II.

Speaker 10 I didn't know who Odeon the Bullfish was, so like anything pop culture music.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's a fair comparison.

Speaker 2 Okay, Odin

Speaker 1 literally, Mr. Worldwide.
Jake, Hank is now, we played in Hank's hands. He wanted us to do that because he needs to get back above.

Speaker 2 No, we're talking about Heat fans. No, no.
Just bring a topical reference from the stream.

Speaker 5 That's the thing about Heat fans, they're a focus on one thing and one thing only. That's the game, right, Jake?

Speaker 2 That's what you're focused on. Exactly.

Speaker 5 I do hope that they both, in a weird way, it'd be cool if they both won their championships and they scheduled the parades on the same day.

Speaker 5 There'll be 20 at one, 60 at the other.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 You don't want to.

Speaker 10 Some guy got in my way with that comment, and I,

Speaker 1 oh, you ran him over?

Speaker 5 Damn. Wow, where'd you learn that move from, Jake?

Speaker 2 I.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 man. Sorry, Jake.
It's okay. You're a winner.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 You are.

Speaker 5 This all comes from a place of bitterness. I want you to understand that.

Speaker 5 That every bad thing I say about you and about your teams, every bad thing I say about every fact that I make up and propaganda I spew about Hank, it comes from a place of extreme jealousy that you get to root for championship caliber teams.

Speaker 1 And I think I speak for PFT when I say that the two of us sitting right now

Speaker 1 with no teams left in the playoffs, we just want you guys to just tear each other apart.

Speaker 5 I want like throat scratches.

Speaker 1 I want body blows. I want mean things said.

Speaker 2 I want everyone to be as miserable as yeah. I want feelings hurt.

Speaker 1 I want things to like be a little tense for a few months after this. I want it to be like, oh yeah, like maybe I want both of you to talk shit about each person behind their back.

Speaker 2 I want it all. I want it all.
I just don't know. That's all we got.
We don't have teams.

Speaker 1 We just want chaos and miserable people. If both of you could lose this series, I would root for that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 10 I just don't know how you're going to get that out of me.

Speaker 1 Oh, we'll get you.

Speaker 2 You will do enough of you to make Hank respond to him. Talk behind his back?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I could get that out of you. Yeah.
You did that yesterday.

Speaker 5 Jake, we've made

Speaker 2 what I said. Okay.

Speaker 5 We've made stronger men break than you.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Other stuff. Before we get to hot seat, cool thrown.

Speaker 1 I'm still not over Sunday night. Chris Paul, he does have a quad injury.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The king of injuries.

Speaker 5 Well, after the game, actually during the game, Patrick Beverly tweeted out, now watching, let's see who has a fake injury pop up at the last second.

Speaker 5 And then about an hour later, Chris Paul was spotted limping around the hallways with an ice pack on his quad. They asked him about his quad injury.

Speaker 5 He said he didn't feel like talking about it that much. It's the LeBron, I have a pretty much broken hand.
It's basically broken.

Speaker 1 It's every single time.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 at the end of the day, I think we all know where we stand with Chris Paul. I think you said it, PFT, he's like the best player who kind of stinks.

Speaker 2 I also think

Speaker 1 of all time. No offense to short kings, but it is one of those situations where height and size do matter, and it's not a surprise that Chris Paul's body breaks down every single year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he gets exposed defensively every single year, and these moments happen every single year.

Speaker 5 I mean, it does matter. Size does matter.
Like it or not, that's just the truth.

Speaker 5 If you're getting hit by other things that are bigger than you, you're probably going to get hurt more frequently than the bigger guys.

Speaker 1 If there's a guard that's taller than you, it's probably going to be more difficult to guard him than if he's the same size as you.

Speaker 5 I'll say something very nice about Chris Paul. Chris Paul, he should be the face of the Hall of Very Good.

Speaker 5 He should be like first inductee.

Speaker 5 He should be the president of the hall of very good yes that's like that's i mean obviously he's a hall of famer but i'm saying like he is what i think of when i think of like he makes it so easy for you to make the championship argument which is why i so i felt great about all the that we've talked about chris paul i would not take back a single breath of it uh uh but i'm starting now after the fact when they're doing all the post-mortems and you see like even greeny getting in a couple like smirks here and there on chris paul yes i'm starting to now like flip just a little bit it feels like i was

Speaker 5 there's too much piling on

Speaker 5 going on on Chris Paul, where

Speaker 5 I don't want them to steal that away from me, but it looks like it's out of my hands now where

Speaker 5 you've got everyone now in agreement. Like, oh, this is now the official Chris Paul narrative.
I think that, like, I'm starting to think maybe next year I might root for it to change.

Speaker 1 It's like the Tony Soprano when he fights Jackie Apriel Jr. in the bathroom.
He's like, put your hands up.

Speaker 2 Put your hands up.

Speaker 1 Put your hands up. Fight me.
Fight him. Exactly.

Speaker 5 I want some opposition. Yeah.
So it's not fun when you're piling on a guy and there's nobody left to conquer. And everyone.

Speaker 5 I just found a gun in Ryan Rossillo's in his pocket of his jacket and he's dating my daughter. Right.
And he's cheating on her. He's at a strip club.

Speaker 5 And I just know that he's going to have to be whacked after he robs that Benefit concert and sticks up the car gun.

Speaker 1 But just make sure you make it look like it was something, a drug deal gone wrong.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 5 That's what I want. I want to shoot Ryan in the head.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 While he's walking away.

Speaker 5 While he's walking away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The, yeah, Rosillo is down bad. I talked to him on the phone on Monday.
He was like, I feel like such a loser because everyone keeps checking in on me. And I was like, I just silence.

Speaker 6 I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 You okay, man? Yeah. I was like, you okay?

Speaker 2 That's actually like

Speaker 5 one of the worst moments that you can have in life.

Speaker 5 If you ever find yourself in a position where you're getting texts from people that you haven't talked to in like months and they're all just checking and being like, hey, are you all right?

Speaker 5 I just want to say like I love you in case you need to hear that right now.

Speaker 5 It's actually like, it's good to check in on your friends, but it's bad to check in on somebody that you haven't spoken with in a long time just because you know that they're doing really shitty.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And it's also very weird to be like checking in on someone because they just have an affinity towards a 37-year-old point guard that can never come up big in big moments.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We also have Patrick Beverly has arrived as like hater of the year.

Speaker 9 It's over.

Speaker 1 He's one hater of the year.

Speaker 1 I think he flew from vacation to get up to just slander and go after Chris Paul. He called him a traffic cone.

Speaker 1 He went as far to say as that when he plays Chris Paul, he goes out the night before. He gets a steak.
He has no problem. When he plays Steph Curry, he's asleep by 8 p.m.

Speaker 1 And then, unfortunately, like everything in life, he stayed an extra day and then started to expose himself as like, oh, he's just like all hot takes. Because he then went into

Speaker 1 how James Harden was going to get the super max from some other team. J.J.
Reddick was like, that actually is not possible.

Speaker 1 The Sixers are the only team that gave him the Super Max. And he was like, well, someone else is going to give him the max.
He was saying Jason Tatum doesn't play defense.

Speaker 1 Like all these things that he had one awesome day on all these shows and then stayed the extra day.

Speaker 2 And everyone's like, wait,

Speaker 1 just go back to the Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 Play the Chris Paul play. He was also the Chris Paul play.

Speaker 8 He'd have a great time on this podcast.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he would. Yeah.
No, it would. It would be an invite to play.
We'd love to have him on.

Speaker 5 He also got into the LeBron bubble, the Asterix, and he was like, Yeah, LeBron got, yeah, I guess the Lakers won a couple years ago, but that was in the bubble. It does not count.

Speaker 5 And JJ was like, Well, I can put Asterix on any other title that you can name in like the last 10 years. I'll just make up reasons for the Asterix.
This is where JJ gets too intellectual.

Speaker 5 I like when Pat Bev just like fires off the hot takes. He just needs, the problem with him is he's shooting them out like a shotgun.
Right. He needs to be a sniper.

Speaker 5 He needs to pick like two lanes and then go hard on those two lanes because you can't have the hot take about every single possible thing.

Speaker 8 JJ's almost too real for TV. Well, what JJ is doing, they might try and muzzle him if he keeps speaking the truth.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, he's not joking.

Speaker 1 No, you're absolutely right. They're like, you can't do that.

Speaker 8 Like Mad Dog and Stephen A are not happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't make them look stupid because we know they're stupid, but that's what sells. Right.

Speaker 1 JJ should have come back and Pat Beverly when he said the asterisks, which I love because we say it too, the bubble championship.

Speaker 1 He should have just said, are you saying that simply because you want the 3-1 collapse by the Clippers erased when your entire team quit against the Nuggets in that game seven? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because that would be the response that you could use to be like, hey, remember when that happened, Pat?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I just like the idea of Pat Bev going, he's basically going to go door to door now. He's awesome.
Knock on every door in New York, be like, hey, can I talk? He's like an evangelist.

Speaker 5 What's the

Speaker 5 Jehovah's Witness? He's like a Jehovah's Witness. He's got a pamphlet in his hand.
He's like, hey, I'm here to talk to you about how bad Chris Paul stinks in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 I like him doing that on TV, and he's funny because he's got, he comes from like a small place of malice, too.

Speaker 2 Like he's not. I don't think it's small.
I think it's big.

Speaker 5 But most people on TV, when they do these things, they're doing it. And you can tell they're really saying these takes because it makes them feel good about having a spicy opinion.

Speaker 5 I think Pat Bev just actually hates Chris.

Speaker 1 Oh, hates him. And he, so it was so funny because they, it, he hit so well on that Monday get up.
They're like, all right, dude, can you stay for two days and just do every show?

Speaker 1 He was doing Stephen A. Smith's world, Stephen A.
Smith's World, which is like a very funny premise because it's Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith remove him from his regular studio, put him into two nice chairs, and he does like a sit-down conversation. Like, let's get real.

Speaker 1 And so, but it was just a, it was basically Pat Bev saying his Chris Paul, why he hates Chris Paul, but just in like a slightly lower tone. He was like, Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith was like, hey, Pat, when did this all start?

Speaker 5 Patrick Beverly was like, I was at a camp.

Speaker 1 You know, I think it was high school or college, and Chris Paul was there. And I played him, and I destroyed him.
And it's like, wait, but so why do you hate him?

Speaker 1 Like, it made no sense, but it doesn't have to make sense.

Speaker 5 Was he upset because Chris Paul got like more of the shine than Pat Bev did?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but his hate is very real. And it also goes back to show, as much as I think a lot of us want to be smart sports fans and a lot of us want to hear

Speaker 1 intelligent discussion from time to time about sports. Really, at the end of the day, we want someone who is very entertaining and has a very hot take and will stick by it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because, like, I watched that, and again, he was saying shit that just was factually incorrect, but the way he was saying it was so entertaining, I was like, I want more PepEp.

Speaker 5 My, my, my new favorite take out there is how Skip Bayless is now the biggest Luka hater on the planet. Yeah.
On the fucking planet.

Speaker 5 He's kind of, he's he's doing that exact same thing where he just like he cherry picks the perfect stats to talk about Luca.

Speaker 5 He's like, he will not forget the games that the Mavericks lost in this series against the Suns. And every time it gets brought up to him, he's like, I don't want to talk about those.

Speaker 5 Those games don't matter. And they're like, well, what about all the games that Michael Jordan lost?

Speaker 5 And then he gets mad at them for even mentioning Michael Jordan's name in the same breath as Luka Donchich. It's great.

Speaker 5 Listen, this is probably like, I don't know, 90% of why I got into this line of work is because I fucking love the hot takes. The strong takes, they make the world go round.
They make sports.

Speaker 5 Imagine if you had to just like have these conversations with your coworkers the next day at the office and they're making the dumbest points, but they are not able to make like the loud, completely factually incorrect, but entertaining points.

Speaker 5 Correct. We need that.

Speaker 5 We need that in society more than anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that was, it was the perfect storm because even

Speaker 1 someone who is the most reserved like analyst of of the NBA and who's the most mild take guy out there.

Speaker 1 I don't even know who that person is, but that person has to admit that what happened on Sunday night was one of the most embarrassing game seven losses of all time. It actually just was.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It's not,

Speaker 1 you can't watch that game and see that result and come away with anything less than that was an absolute... total embarrassment.
And also, we should throw in Devin Booker.

Speaker 5 Should get some hate too.

Speaker 1 And DeAndre Ayton is now like at odds with everyone, and they might not give him a contract.

Speaker 1 And I just, there was an article that came out that DeAndre Ayton's like addicted to gaming, which I love those storylines.

Speaker 5 Him and Kyler.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just spends all day gaming.

Speaker 1 And then you got to like straddle the line because he's like, gaming has saved my life and my mental health. It's like, but also you're tired and yawning at practice.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, they could have given him that contract before the year started. Right.
And they're probably glad that they didn't based on how he acted in that game.

Speaker 5 Like, I know Monty Williams was fucking pissed at him at the end of the game because

Speaker 5 the report was that Ayton took himself out and then refused to go back in the game.

Speaker 2 He played 17 minutes.

Speaker 5 He just said, no, I'm going to be out for the rest of the game. Just leave me on the bench.
And if that's the case, that's what we're going back to because Aiton...

Speaker 5 when he does play and he feels like he's being aggressive, I don't think he can really be stopped. Maybe MB could stop him or Giannis could stop him.

Speaker 5 But like he's an elite big dude when he's feeling like he's dialed in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the problem is with the NBA now, you just have to be like, you have to be able to play five out, and I don't know how you can do that with him.

Speaker 1 That's the biggest issue.

Speaker 5 One thing that I'm noticing, though, as a trend, is that

Speaker 5 all the best players in the NBA, they're dickheads when they're on the court. They're like absolute assholes.

Speaker 1 You got to have an edge.

Speaker 5 He doesn't have that edge.

Speaker 1 You got to get an edge. He probably has that edge at

Speaker 1 what? At Verdansk?

Speaker 8 It's called Dara now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Dara? It's an island. Caldera.

Speaker 1 Okay. So he's probably got it there.

Speaker 5 You got to have some dog in you.

Speaker 2 That's what translated. You got to have a dog.
Yeah. Probably cracked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? Good.

Speaker 2 It means GGs. Okay.

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Speaker 2 Hot seat cool thrown, Henry.

Speaker 8 My hot seat is humans this summer.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you guys have seen this. I'm sure, Billy, you have the crying Snapchat filter.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 It's here. The Bills posted a video where they did it to all their rookies.
It's starting to get more and more viral.

Speaker 8 It's one of those AI things that's too scary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what is scary?

Speaker 1 It's creepy. Walk me through it.

Speaker 5 Billy. It's a deep fake that makes you look like you're crying.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you take a video of you.

Speaker 8 Billy, do a video of this conversation, and it looks like you're crying afterwards.

Speaker 2 It's brutal.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Billy, say, saying to the camera, like, I was late for this episode part of my take because I was low-key taking a shit. Yeah.
And we'll see what that looks like if you're crying.

Speaker 8 Oh, wait, well, you got to do it with that.

Speaker 2 You have to use the phone.

Speaker 5 I use the film. Let me get the filter going.

Speaker 1 Billy, are we low-key worried that low-key is being used too much?

Speaker 2 That's kind of the point. That's the point.
Oh. That's high-key.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Everything's low-key.

Speaker 2 But it's going to be a long-key. I got you.

Speaker 8 It's going to be a long summer of that filter. And I agree.
It's creepy, scary. I don't like seeing it.

Speaker 5 What is it used for?

Speaker 5 I think it's a Snapchat filter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, but like laughs.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I could just take a video of you, and it would look like you were crying on it, and then I would share it with everybody.

Speaker 2 Billy, you should take a video of TMT talking to Big Cat.

Speaker 9 You've seen it.

Speaker 1 You've definitely seen it. It's so good that you probably didn't know that's what you were watching.

Speaker 5 I just thought that we were getting more in tune with our emotions. No, it's creepy.

Speaker 2 creepy

Speaker 2 it's very very creepy he's doing it right now i guess i'm crying right now yeah you're you're fucking balling your eyes out

Speaker 2 take your glasses post me crying such a beta rat oh my god let me see oh oh no

Speaker 2 am i crying all right we'll put we'll put this out

Speaker 2 so what's your uh

Speaker 8 what's your cool throne hank uh my cool throne i had pad beverly but luckily i had another another one. It is Big Bad Booty, or Big Dick Booty Daddy.
Yes. Rough and rowdy.
Probably the best.

Speaker 8 Like, we did the Canelo Bibble fight last week.

Speaker 2 There was considerably

Speaker 8 or whatever, two weeks ago, basically last week.

Speaker 8 Considerably less tension for that fight than this fight. This fight's been in the making for like, I don't know, a year and a half, two years.
This guy, Big Dick Booty Daddy. You're putting out a

Speaker 8 dock episode today. It's 10 minutes.
You get the whole backstory. But he, I mean, one of the most electric promo cutters I've ever seen.
He's basically a profit game. Pro wrestler, yeah.

Speaker 8 He said he won a fight, and then he said he was going to eat Bobby Lang's wife's box like a hungry, hungry hippo.

Speaker 8 And in much more vulgar words, and he's cut like a million promos like that. It's going to be on Friday.
PFT making his debut on the sideline.

Speaker 5 It's been my dream.

Speaker 8 Doing sideline reporting.

Speaker 8 With Caleb, I'll let you spoil. He's got some good tricks up his sleeve.
I don't want to spoil it. But that's going to be Friday night.

Speaker 5 I don't know if I have any tricks up my sleeve.

Speaker 2 Well, you said you were bringing something.

Speaker 5 Now I got to think of a trick to put a bring. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm bringing something.

Speaker 1 Say it, and then we'll bleep it.

Speaker 2 I can react. I'm going to bring, well, I'm going to bring it.

Speaker 5 That's what you got to have on sleep.

Speaker 1 Bleep that, and then, yeah, that's big.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's going to be big.

Speaker 5 It's going to be big. It's going to be big.

Speaker 8 So Friday night, buyrnr.com. I cannot wait.

Speaker 8 Canelo vs. Bibble is great.
I've been way more excited for this for a while.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's going to be incredible. It's going to be far.
It's 20 fights. It's the best pay-per-view you could could buy in the world because it's non-stop action, great fights, great night.

Speaker 1 I'll sing the anthem. It's going to be the best.

Speaker 5 It's actually the perfect thing to put on if you've got some buddies over at the place. Oh, yeah.
You guys are all cracking a few Coors Lights.

Speaker 5 Put on the fights, and it's going to be a hell of an evening.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes.
It's video.

Speaker 1 It's terrifying. The Snapchat filter is terrifying.

Speaker 5 PFT, your hot seat cooler. All the boys crying.

Speaker 2 So funny, though.

Speaker 5 My hot seat, well, I got Billy on the hot seat first and foremost because Billy tweeted tweeted out another grizzly animal murder earlier today.

Speaker 2 What your patient was a ball sack?

Speaker 5 It was aquatic. Hank, that's fucked up.

Speaker 2 That's very funny, actually, Hank.

Speaker 5 That was good. But yeah, he did tweet my ball sack out.
But yeah, no,

Speaker 5 Billy tweeted out another animal murder. We've told him not to do that.
We suspended him from tweeting videos.

Speaker 2 I think you should keep doing it. But you weren't supposed to do that.

Speaker 5 You weren't supposed to do that until... After the second round at the PGA Championship so that Max Homa would enter killer mode.

Speaker 2 I don't know if a core tweet would hold up in court. Mad Max mode.

Speaker 1 I think you should keep doing it, Billy. You got to just live your life.

Speaker 2 It was current. It was current.

Speaker 1 How-key, you should live your life. It's like

Speaker 5 watching.

Speaker 2 I'm confused.

Speaker 5 It's like watching Animal Planet if it was directed by Quentin Tarantino. It's like all slaughters all the time.
There was a pygmy sperm whale that was being chased by a seal, released its ink.

Speaker 2 The whale was getting chased by the seal? Yeah.

Speaker 5 In shallow water, those types of whales get their sonar fucked up, so it ran right into the rock, and then there was blood everywhere.

Speaker 5 and it just was like pinballing off the sides of the rocked skull it was like gust paragraph

Speaker 5 yeah i just muted billy so just keep doing it i want you to keep doing it uh my other hot seat is the paypal six men Did you guys see the statement that the Suns put out yesterday? Yes.

Speaker 5 So the Suns put out, they tried to do their lightning statement. They tried to copy.
I think that was our advice to them, right? You got to go lightning with it.

Speaker 5 And they said, today is a new day for Phoenix Suns fans. By the way, this whole thing is just like it's an all-black graphic, just letting you guys know the tone of this.
A death occurred.

Speaker 5 The work on next season is already underway.

Speaker 5 As employees, fans, partners, and PayPal six-man members of the Phoenix Suns, you should be proud of what you have helped this team and our organization accomplish.

Speaker 5 It goes on and it basically says, hey, sorry, sorry for everything that happened. We apologize to you.

Speaker 5 While also putting a very small amount of blame, but some of the blame nonetheless, on Phoenix Suns fans for just being like, hey, you guys fucked up.

Speaker 1 They should be refunded for that performance in game seven. I also would just love to see a team account just be like,

Speaker 2 our bad.

Speaker 5 They should have just done the crying filter on their entire roster. Yeah.
Yeah, but just feel bad, too.

Speaker 1 If they had woken up the next day and just been like, hand up, that sucked. That sucked.

Speaker 5 Hey, let's all pretend last night didn't happen. Yeah, right.
Do me a solid real quick. My cool throne is the course at the PGA Championship.

Speaker 5 According to golf meteorologist Sam Bozorian, did I pronounce that right?

Speaker 9 Man, Bozo.

Speaker 5 The winds winds will be blowing in four different directions on each day of the tournament this week. So

Speaker 5 get your popcorn ready. I don't know.
I think it's usually not that windy in Oklahoma, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 But I'm just, I'm going to be rooting for the course. I'm sure you will be too, except in the, you know, against the players that we're also rooting for.

Speaker 5 Also, I don't know if this counts as the course, but Brooks locked his keys in his car today. He'll be fine.
I think he'll be fine. Yeah.
I just figured that was

Speaker 5 worth mentioning.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's worth mentioning.

Speaker 5 You've probably got to be looking around and be like, hey, is Patrick Reed around here? Yeah,

Speaker 2 he knows how to hot wire this time.

Speaker 5 Help me break the window real quick.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the PGA championship, my hot seat is Max Homa, our good friend, because

Speaker 2 he's paired with Bryson, and that is terrible.

Speaker 5 Well, it could be great.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I don't think there's any way.
Bryson plays slow. He's a circus.

Speaker 1 He sucks. Max needs to mentally be strong.
We're going to be positive with him.

Speaker 1 But my thoughts and prayers are for our good friend Max because I, I mean, could you imagine having, like, showing up, you're playing the best golf of your life.

Speaker 1 You show up to a major, and it's like, hey, you have to, you have to hang out with Bryson DeChambeau for nine hours the next two days.

Speaker 5 I could see a world where he's like the cooler. You remember that movie where you just get somebody that's really shitty at gambling to go stand next to somebody on a hot streak?

Speaker 5 That could be, I could see Bryson filling that role, but I could also see Max getting so annoyed that he just plays really well, so he gets off the course faster.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, all right.
We can see the replies. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is Coach K because it was revealed, oh, Hank's shaking his head. It was revealed that he made $14 million last year, 12.5 the year that they won 13 games.

Speaker 8 He is the most winning coach in NCAA history.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, was this your cool throne?

Speaker 8 I'm sorry, it's providing context for listeners.

Speaker 1 And it's, you know, $12.5 million.

Speaker 1 It proves yet again what Coach K said was true when he was flirting with the NBA, and he said the allure of coaching in college has no price.

Speaker 8 Yeah, right. You don't think you could get more if you went to the NBA?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Maybe not.
Probably not. That's a lot of money.
That's a shitload of money. That's a ton of money.

Speaker 5 I doubt that the Lakers would have paid him more than that.

Speaker 1 Also, a special shout-out to everyone who's like, dude, give it up.

Speaker 2 He's retired. Thank you.
Keep shouting that out. No, no, no, no, no.
Shout out from the rooftops.

Speaker 1 You don't give up your grudges and your hatred for in sports. They age like a fine wine.
I will be slandering this man forever.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 8 So. But by your logic, which is incorrect, but technically, if we're going by your book, The Book of Dan Katz, you killed this man.

Speaker 1 His career, yes. But I'm coming for his afterlife.

Speaker 2 I'm coming for his retirement life.

Speaker 1 Got it. I want his retirement life to be miserable.

Speaker 2 That seems excessive.

Speaker 5 Well, I'm an excessive guy sometimes. He would be by $3.5 million the highest paid NBA coach.

Speaker 2 Here it is.

Speaker 2 The allure

Speaker 2 of coaching these kids.

Speaker 2 Come on. He's doing that out there.

Speaker 1 Listen, Coach K would have coached for free if he could have.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, he had to make $14 million a year.

Speaker 2 But you know, he brought in so much more money.

Speaker 8 Like, it doesn't matter. Like, he, he,

Speaker 2 how much money do you think Duke basketball

Speaker 2 millions of dollars?

Speaker 1 Hank, as it always applies to him, he should get paid $14 million.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't also pretend that he's like getting paid nothing and he just is there for the kids.

Speaker 1 That's really simple.

Speaker 2 Maybe he's on like a Tom Brady thing where he's like putting it off and putting it on.

Speaker 1 I have no problem with him making 14 million. I have a problem with him being like, I'm just here for the kids.
I do this shit for free.

Speaker 5 In the most recent data provided by the U.S. Department of Education 2020, the Duke University men's basketball team made $33.4 million in revenue.
So Coach K

Speaker 5 is taking like almost half of all the money that they, the entire basketball program just exists as a corporation to pay Coach K.

Speaker 1 He got paid. He got paid.

Speaker 5 They probably wanted to cut his salary. They're like, hey, Coach K, we'd like to get some new sneakers next year.

Speaker 12 Zions are falling apart.

Speaker 2 And he's like, I'm out. I quit.

Speaker 1 Last year, he got paid $1 million per win.

Speaker 2 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 A million dollars per win.

Speaker 2 This guy is, I mean, he's just bashing.

Speaker 10 He doesn't respect equipment.

Speaker 2 The camera. Yeah.
We're watching. Poor guys are going to have to fix that camera now.
He's going to lose.

Speaker 1 Avalanche. I actually just had a moment while this TV was on the game.
That was my first, oh yeah, Russell Wilson is on the Broncos because he's at the Avalanche game pumping everyone up.

Speaker 1 And I was like, whoa, this is weird. Oh yeah, he's on the Broncos.
Billy, your hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 2 Low-key.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is me. So I actually have to end up giving that gambling money from UFC on Saturday night back.
Raykich did tear his ACL, turns out.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you do. Oh, you don't have to give it back to the sports book.
You have to give it back to me.

Speaker 5 I had to donate it to ACL surgery research.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 And what was your initial diagnosis? Probably just a mild.

Speaker 8 I haven't figured out the ACL surgery yet.

Speaker 1 LCL and MCL. Someday people will stop dying from ACLs.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Should have moved like the Pope who just drinks tequila when his knee hurts. That's another development.
Is that true?

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 5 That just, that was his reverall. Yeah.
And My Cool Throne is Jack Niklaus, who rejected.

Speaker 2 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 What? No. What? Nicholas.

Speaker 2 No. This is over.
This podcast is done.

Speaker 5 Jake is going to have a stroke.

Speaker 2 Hold on, hold on. No one tell him.
Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 2 How did you say that? Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 1 He said it like

Speaker 2 that.

Speaker 10 It took me like two seconds to realize that's who he was talking about.

Speaker 9 That's why my reaction was delayed. Oh,

Speaker 2 on what planet did you. Jack Nicklaus?

Speaker 1 Where did we find you, Billy?

Speaker 5 Rejected

Speaker 5 $100 million.

Speaker 2 Stay true, Billy. Stay strong.

Speaker 5 Do not go to the Saudi Golf League.

Speaker 2 Shocking.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he rejected all that money because of his morals.

Speaker 2 So, cool throwing him. Wait, wait, Jack Niklaus.

Speaker 5 Wait, Jack Niklaus was offered millions.

Speaker 1 $100 million to golf? He's

Speaker 5 90. I know, no, to be the commissioner.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 5 okay. Yeah, so he didn't pull up.

Speaker 1 All right, good for Jack Niklaus.

Speaker 2 That's how it's fucking spelt.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 8 I'm with you, Billy.

Speaker 2 He's like one of the. Why does he just spell his name Nicholas?

Speaker 2 Why is it Nick Laus?

Speaker 5 Because his grandfather's grandfather, grandfather, that's how he spelled his name.

Speaker 2 What's up, Justrane for not anglicizing your name?

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 That was a joke.

Speaker 2 If you saw a picture of him, would you not race him?

Speaker 1 Make your name more American.

Speaker 5 That's probably the first time. No, it's definitely the first time in his life that Jack Nicholas has experienced racism.

Speaker 2 That's why it's fine to say that.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, Jack Nicklaus.

Speaker 2 You are a special lover, Billy. Yeah, no, you're a specialty.
Don't ever change.

Speaker 5 Don't read another book.

Speaker 1 That makes like Hanks, like Objin and Thyland. That's

Speaker 1 we should do a Mount Rushman.

Speaker 2 I think it's pronunciation.

Speaker 8 I think Thyland is equally as bad because it's like you should recognize the name. The same way when you see Jack Nicholas, like, you know.

Speaker 5 But the thing is, I've only read his name.

Speaker 5 I've only read his name. Yeah, but...
Objin is maybe even better because you're also like not understanding a vagina.

Speaker 2 That one, well, yeah. But who knows what an object?

Speaker 8 object, like, who knows what that is?

Speaker 2 Who knows what that is? A lot of people.

Speaker 2 Yeah, probably. Probably because you're significant others.

Speaker 8 Like, I had to go. Like, I was single at the time.

Speaker 2 Jack Nick Klaus. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Print the shirts.

Speaker 2 Jack Niklaus.

Speaker 2 It's also all capital letters.

Speaker 5 When was the last time he played?

Speaker 1 But he gets talked.

Speaker 13 You've heard his name said.

Speaker 5 Really, he tees off at August. I'm pretty sure he's the first person that hits every single year.
Right. And they say to kick off this year's Masters Tournament, here he is, Jack Niklaus.

Speaker 5 But like, what, like, when did he stop playing?

Speaker 2 A long time ago.

Speaker 5 I think he stopped playing at the Masters in like the late 90s, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I was born in the late 90s. That's true.
But he's still, like, I think he has the all-time record for major tournaments.

Speaker 1 He's the guy that Tigers don't know.

Speaker 5 That's how you should know his name because for the last 20 years, everyone's been like, when is Tiger going to get Jack Niklaus?

Speaker 1 Jack Niklaus is the goat.

Speaker 2 And Jacklaus sounds better than Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 5 He's 82 years old. Jack Nicholas sounds like every other dude.

Speaker 1 He's 82 years old. Jack Niklaus.

Speaker 5 It is confusing when you got like Jack Nicholas and you got Phil Mickelson. You want to call him Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I almost thought this article was about Phil Mickelson. I thought he turned down the money, but it turns out he didn't.
No, Phil did.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Philip. You know what?

Speaker 5 He's still trying. He's still taking the bait.

Speaker 6 That's why I'm putting.

Speaker 1 He should shepherd this.

Speaker 1 Like when Tom Brady was suspended, it was Dom Grady that was starting for the patriots jack niklaus should take the hundred million yeah and jack nicholas should say no that would be smart for him jack niklaus unbelievable what a moment i love you billy that's i mean that's a

Speaker 1 that's a where were you moment like people are gonna crash their cars the moment someone's getting their car someone's getting their car out of a ditch right now They just turned the podcast back on.

Speaker 1 Triple A just showed up because they're just in a fucking ditch.

Speaker 5 It's going to be, yeah, it's going to be illegal to listen to Billy's thoughts while operating heavy machinery.

Speaker 8 It's like a reaction to a David Blaine magic trick.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Billy saying Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 2 I threw my headphones off.

Speaker 5 What's crazy is usually there's like a small pause where we all have to do the wait, what was that? And then we realized

Speaker 5 we all knew it like immediately and we it was it was bizarre. Look, I spent a lot of time in a song today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it was good for my friend. No, that's a good one.
Billy, it happens. It happens.
Trust me.

Speaker 9 It's also

Speaker 2 not going to get brought up for the rest of your career.

Speaker 1 It's a great podcast moment.

Speaker 2 That's what we're you're talking about. Don't even worry about it.
We're here for more. Why does he spell his fucking name like Nicholas? You know what?

Speaker 5 I can't wait for the people in the comments to be like, that was staged.

Speaker 2 Actually, low-key,

Speaker 2 he might actually pronounce his name Nick Laus, but he just changed it to make it easy for everybody. Stay strong, Billy.

Speaker 5 Like Joe's strong.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 5 I'm going to Google Jack Nicholas pronunciation. Yes.
And there's going to be zero hits because no one's ever questioned it before.

Speaker 2 Stay strong, Billy.

Speaker 5 But who the hell spells Nicholas like that?

Speaker 1 The most famous golfer of all time.

Speaker 2 So change your fucking name, asshole.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, your hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 10 I'm not going to taught that.

Speaker 9 That's an all-time question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's very hard to follow that act.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I'll go quickly.

Speaker 10 My hot seat is the Carolina Hurricanes. They are banning out-of-state ticket sales on the primary market.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is like the last reason

Speaker 9 you should use the game time.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because they can't stop you from anything.
Yes. Game time app.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the lightning do this. It's fucking lame.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 10 So stupid.

Speaker 10 My cool throw, Q ⁇ A's.

Speaker 2 It happened last night.

Speaker 10 LeBron. Yep.

Speaker 2 Excuse me. LeBrune.
LeBrun. LeBrune James.
Legon.

Speaker 10 Me, Billy, and PFT all asked him questions.

Speaker 2 I did too.

Speaker 10 Sorry, I was looking at this thread. You did too.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I asked him multiple.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I asked him about his dick.
I asked him about cutting out Kevin Love of all the pictures.

Speaker 2 What did you guys ask him?

Speaker 10 I asked him, hey, LeBron, have you ever considered going on any sports podcasts? Part of my take would love to have you. Thank you, James.

Speaker 1 What did you ask him, PFT?

Speaker 5 I asked him if sun is hot, how come outer space is cold?

Speaker 10 Billy asked.

Speaker 1 Hey, you ever heard of Jack Niklaus?

Speaker 5 I asked him if he could beat Shaq in a fight.

Speaker 8 LeBron Jameis.

Speaker 2 Could he beat Shaq in a fight?

Speaker 5 It was LeBron Jacques.

Speaker 5 I don't want to take all the credit for making him do this QA, but I think we all know he had no plans on doing it until I started replying to him, being like, hey, LeBron James promised us a Q ⁇ A

Speaker 5 on May 4th. He still has not.

Speaker 10 Also, he should have quote tweeted all of his answers.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he's got as much traction as he's replying.

Speaker 10 You have to go to his tweets and replies just to see what he said.

Speaker 8 He did throw AD right under the bus.

Speaker 2 Oh, he did? What did he say?

Speaker 8 Yeah, like,

Speaker 8 if you could pick any of your teammates for a two-on-two, like, who would it be? And he said Kyrie, KD, or Kobe.

Speaker 2 Wait.

Speaker 1 Oh, he could pick any two not teammates that he has.

Speaker 8 Any teammates he's ever played with.

Speaker 1 Well, he never did play with KD and Kobe. Oh, USA?

Speaker 2 USA basketball or something? LeBron.

Speaker 8 Meanwhile, you have

Speaker 8 your Batman and Robin, like, currently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's also like Kyrie's never going to love you, bro.

Speaker 2 No, he's over. It's over.

Speaker 8 Kyrie was talking about him on

Speaker 2 the Twitch. Yeah, Kyrie plays like Grand Theft Auto.
That's where

Speaker 2 I love it. With no

Speaker 2 face cam.

Speaker 8 I love it. And just does like commentary.
He was talking about the haters, which is kind of funny. And he's talking about LeBron.
He's like, we're not, you know, it's not all.

Speaker 2 It's kind of love.

Speaker 2 Loki love? Loki love.

Speaker 5 I noticed that LeBron replied to like three different people who asked him what his favorite movie was. Yeah.
LeBron loves telling people that he's seen The Godfather. Yes.

Speaker 5 Still hasn't read it, but he's seen it.

Speaker 8 Someone asked that. It was very funny.
They're like,

Speaker 8 have you finished reading these books? He never responded with like four pictures.

Speaker 2 He's still doing it.

Speaker 9 He answered two hours ago.

Speaker 2 Oh, he did?

Speaker 5 No, he tried to jump into KD's Q ⁇ A. He got involved in another man's question.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's what it was. He was just doing a KD.

Speaker 5 KD wasn't even doing a Q ⁇ A. KD was doing a thing called using Twitter.
Yeah, it was Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 he was online. Right.
And then LeBron was like, oh, he's doing a Q ⁇ A too. I guess he's baby Bron following my footsteps.

Speaker 5 Big Bro bro taught him how to use twitter.com yeah and then he asked KD a question and Katie just didn't respond to it love it also he definitely ignored us because we have blue check marks and we don't have to go to the top I mean there was a 0.0.0%

Speaker 1 chance right LeBron when he saw it it's crazy respond when I asked him hey remember that time you accidentally showed the whole world your dick he's not answered now no but he should Billy was his cameraman that's why

Speaker 5 I have a confession oh no I almost pronounced it Jack Nicklaus.

Speaker 14 Like Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 So you thought you.

Speaker 9 Because that's how it's spelt.

Speaker 2 Wait, so you know.

Speaker 9 So when you read the news, you thought you had to.

Speaker 5 You had no idea who Jack Nicholas was.

Speaker 2 No, I did, but I've always read his name.

Speaker 2 There's no way that you knew who he was. No, because I always watch golf on mute, like, with my family.

Speaker 5 So when you see Jack Nick, like that's it's

Speaker 2 it's Nicklaus on there.

Speaker 5 I just see the writing.

Speaker 2 So you've known Jack Nicholas your whole life. I know Jack Jack never

Speaker 2 considered that his name is

Speaker 2 Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 1 No, but like when you watch golf.

Speaker 2 And you've never said it out loud because someone would have like dropped to the bottom.

Speaker 5 I've never said it out loud.

Speaker 1 He's a dude who's like better than Tiger. This is the best part.

Speaker 1 If you go to Billy's brain earlier today, he pulled this article up. And I'm just going to do a little quick Monday reading on a Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Jack Niklaus says Saudi Arabian organizers offered him more than $100 million to be face of Live Golf Invitational Series.

Speaker 2 Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 If the Saudi Arabian organizers of the Live Golf Invitational series had their way, Jack Niklaus, not Greg Norman, would have been the face of the new breakaway circuit.

Speaker 1 In a story published on the Fire Pit Collective website on Monday, Niklaus said he twice turned down offers to lead the Saudi Arabians' efforts to start a new golf league that hopes to challenge a PGA tour.

Speaker 1 I was offered something in excess of $100 million by the Saudis to do the job, probably similar to the one that Greg is doing, Niklaus said. I turned it down, so this is all your brain.

Speaker 5 That was exactly my brain.

Speaker 1 Niklaus, 82, was among the players who split from that.

Speaker 2 I love it. Like,

Speaker 5 I used to have an MC at the end of my last name.

Speaker 2 Like, we dropped that.

Speaker 5 Like, just make it Nicholas. Wait, your name ended in MC? No, it started with MC.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 his name is Jack. McFootball?

Speaker 2 McFootball. Billy McFootball.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 And then they dropped it at Ellis Island. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're like, you're just going by football.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, well, let's get to John Zolly. That was electric.

Speaker 5 You would immediately be fired if you went on the air in like a real sports media job. And you said that, right? Crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Wild.

Speaker 10 Because, like you said, in the pronunciation guide, they only do the ones that are somewhat questionable.

Speaker 1 They wouldn't even consider doing that. No, they would be like, you would go and look up the pronunciation and be like, no, no.

Speaker 2 Hey, idiot.

Speaker 1 He's got the most majors.

Speaker 9 It's not spelt like Nicholas.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I will defend Billy here. Sometimes there's basic changes, like Kansas is Christian Brown.

Speaker 2 It's Brown. Braun.
Right.

Speaker 10 Or reverse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's a college player that not the whole world knows.

Speaker 2 This is one of the greatest golfers of all time. If not, I mean,

Speaker 2 he's great.

Speaker 1 If you want to go by majors.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he just. The golden bear.

Speaker 5 I also like to just imagine the situation at the football household where they're all sitting

Speaker 5 football household where they're sitting around on Sunday afternoons. It's Father's Day watching the U.S.
Open. And then they're just like in silence looking at the TV while Jack Nicholas is standing.

Speaker 2 Billy, you know, like, who's this dude?

Speaker 10 The golfer who has the iced tea lemonade drink?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Arnold Palmer. There we go.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I know Arnold Palmer because that's a name that's spelt like how it's said. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What about Palmer?

Speaker 5 Tony Fineu.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, I'm not doing that one.

Speaker 2 All right, let's get to John Sally.

Speaker 5 He's not like he's the Jordan of football. Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 Electric. Electric, Billy.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, four-time NBA champion.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 A million different TV shows, movies,

Speaker 1 books.

Speaker 5 I think he invented the sports podcast, too.

Speaker 9 I did. The sports podcast and Snakerella.

Speaker 2 I invented a sports podcast

Speaker 2 with Spider and the Henchman

Speaker 2 in 2011. I didn't even say her name, by the way.

Speaker 5 It's John Sally.

Speaker 2 John Sally, the sexy one. Yes.
And did I ever know that it was going to turn into everybody having a podcast? And I let mine go. Thank you.
Is that why you came here? Thank you.

Speaker 5 To shake us down?

Speaker 2 I came.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 2 When I knew that people were making money. I feel like Lil Richard.
I invented. Rock and roll.
Yeah, no, we're appreciate you.

Speaker 2 We're Pat Boone. And we're saying, like, a wap, babaloo, bop, awap, bamboon.
Oh, my God. That's hilarious.
So So thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got a new movie, Sneakerlla, on Disney Plus coming out May 13th. Streaming only on Disney Plus.
Dope movie.

Speaker 1 What age group is appropriate for you? I have two kids.

Speaker 2 All. That is the best thing.
It's three and one.

Speaker 6 I don't know if they're going to get it.

Speaker 2 They're going to so get it and they're going to be moving to it. Because, you know,

Speaker 2 are your children interracial?

Speaker 2 No. No? Oh, then they're going to have rhythm right after this.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know. They listen to pop.
They watch Pop Patrol, so they got.

Speaker 2 Do they really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's because it teaches you how it's hooked on phonics teaching you how to uh sing and dance okay okay but this is uh a spin of the classic cinderella but it's made right here in new york and i'm from queens i'm the king my daughter is a princess and this kid l from queens is trying to be a designer and get to my daughter so instead of a glass sipper it's a sneaker and everybody's designing this sneaker trying to get it to be on my sneaker company.

Speaker 2 I love it.

Speaker 1 So what's your favorite sneaker?

Speaker 2 My favorite sneaker is usually one I don't have to pay for, but I was trying to do a deal with this company. I'm not going to say the name because the guy didn't have any vision, obviously.

Speaker 2 This vegan sneaker, which

Speaker 2 I'm vegan, and I didn't want any animal product on it and it had to look cool and be cool.

Speaker 2 But right now, I'm a Nike guy. Okay.
I'm a Nike guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got a lot of vegan questions for you.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you want to do that now. Oh, I can do whatever you want.
I couldn't wait to get here.

Speaker 1 He's disgusted with you.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. He has no idea.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, were you vegan when you were playing?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Why do you think I'm this sexy? Yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Because maybe this is big meat that's been feeding me propaganda for years and years, but I've always been under the impression that if you eat a vegan diet, you don't get enough protein to maintain muscle mass to be able to compete in physics.

Speaker 5 Well, you're a basketball player. It's a contact sport, not a collision sport, right?

Speaker 2 Well, I was talking to this 800-pound gorilla who's a raw foodist, and I said, do you buy that? And then I was talking to an ox. Oh, no.
And I said, oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I said, Oh my god, you're an ox. Most people want to be as strong as the ox, and they forget the ox eats grass.
So the largest mammals and the strongest mammals on the planet don't eat animal flesh.

Speaker 2 Blue whales, huh? No, they don't eat animal flesh.

Speaker 1 John just looked at Billy.

Speaker 2 Blue whales do not eat animal flesh. Don't they eat what's krill?

Speaker 2 Krill? Krill. It's mostly vegetarian.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's mostly a microorganism. And then those people who eat roaches and

Speaker 1 shrimp and lobster, uh because that's what they are roaches of the sea I don't see how that can give you protein what it really does is dehydrate your body and causes back pains and back spasms and acne and bad smelling bodies so all right we're gonna let Billy go toe-to-toe with you for a second but are you saying that your vegan diet has helped your body feel young because I did see the Dirk interview that last week where he's like I wish I didn't play the last two years because I can't walk right now right and so you're saying you don't have any of those pains from playing such a long NBA career?

Speaker 2 I tore my meniscus doing a burpee

Speaker 2 at 49 years old. Like,

Speaker 2 I'd literally work on, I'd not tell people what it would do to your body when you add acid to your body, right? Your body is supposed to be as alkaline as possible.

Speaker 2 I even convinced people, I'm sitting here with Madison who does PR for

Speaker 2 Disney Plus, an all-disney channel, and she just came from a vegan restaurant with me, Urban Vegan kitchen 41 car mine just for you people in new york and she can't believe the taste of it and the deal is i don't think that you should make your body a coffin and feeling it's going to be whatever when something dies you're supposed to bury it or burn it right not eat it but you're never full right i'm sure you be honest i'm so full and i was just telling him that at the restaurant but you'd rather have a cheeseburger i'm not you can it just doesn't have to be a dead

Speaker 5 i've eaten vegan food before i've eaten i've been to like a a raw food restaurant, and I've ordered what I thought was a lot of food, and then I leave, and I'm super hungry.

Speaker 5 That's the most frustrating thing.

Speaker 2 You mean you're at a Chinese restaurant?

Speaker 5 It's like eating sushi. No, no, I know what you're saying.
I will get full. I will eat enough general sauce chicken no matter how much MSG they put in it.

Speaker 5 Dude, MSG is delicious. Is there MSG in vegan food?

Speaker 2 If you want to put it in, remember, that's a chemical you don't need in your system.

Speaker 5 That's the difference between me and you. It tastes real good.

Speaker 2 But it really doesn't. Because if you didn't have MSG in it, you wouldn't know the difference.

Speaker 2 The deal is, we're so used to the Western diet being forced something and told that this is a balanced meal when they knew it wasn't. The guy who designed the food pyramid is

Speaker 2 Dr. T.
Colin Cohen.

Speaker 2 I think I got it wrong. Dr.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. I went to the bottom.
Oh, look at that. I do know that it's bullshit.
I know him very much. The food pyramid is bullshit.

Speaker 5 It says that you should eat like nothing but carbs all day long. Yeah, and she finds starch.

Speaker 2 And read me everything that they wanted.

Speaker 6 T.

Speaker 2 Colin Campbell, sorry. And

Speaker 2 he was in charge. He was like, literally said, this was a falsehood.
I don't even, if I can, I don't eat any oils. I don't ingest any oils.

Speaker 2 Because when you have olive oil, olive oil is 100% fat. And so I don't need to put that on top of the salad.
And if your body is 70% water, we know water and oil don't mix.

Speaker 2 So I make sure that I, one, make sense. And two, when she just had a tasty meal, that was a big thing.
I used to not walk down 6th Avenue because race.

Speaker 2 i had a look on her face though that i've seen people have this look on their face where it's like my vegan friend took me this button and he told me i was gonna love it didn't you love it tell him how much you love it i did it was good i i literally i literally she got a hamburger helper uh slash vegan and she kept eating it okay so all right billy you think about what you want to talk about we'll come back to this at the end bill i'm a health coach certified yeah yeah he's been doing it since 1991 before you were born i want to give billy his best chance because right now you got to come up with your best argument.

Speaker 1 We'll do it at the end.

Speaker 2 Let's talk a little basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Give me your,

Speaker 1 you're the king of bad takes. Give me your worst take right now going.

Speaker 2 Worst take was last night game?

Speaker 1 Or any game. Any series?

Speaker 1 We're probably going to air this next week, but like what, give me anything. Any take, current NBA,

Speaker 1 again, you're famously.

Speaker 2 You mean my betting take?

Speaker 1 No, well, you're famously saying that Michael Jordan's not a top five player.

Speaker 9 Oh, I do that just to piss people off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right, right. So give us one that pisses people off and we get headlines.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I did. I did that with Calherd.
Yeah. Yeah, and then he was afraid.

Speaker 2 He was looking at me like this. I said, dude, I smoke weed.
I forgot after I left what I said to you.

Speaker 2 This is the deal.

Speaker 2 The reason I say Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time is the same reason Michael says he's not the greatest of all time because he didn't get to play against the other greats of all time.

Speaker 2 So no one can be the greatest of all time. You can't.
You can be the greatest of that decade. Yeah.
So in the 90s, from 1991 to 1998, well, from really 1988 to 1998, Michael Jordan was the best. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Period. Right.

Speaker 2 But then before that, it was Magic and Bird. Right.
And before that, it was Dr. J.
And then after Michael was Allen Iverson and Kobe.

Speaker 2 So Kobe from 2000 to 2010, nobody better than Kobe except Allen Iverson inside. You got a big man bias.

Speaker 1 You missed Shaq, you missed Kareem, you missed Tim Duncan.

Speaker 2 I said better than Kobe. You're right.

Speaker 2 So those guys are better than Kobe Brown.

Speaker 1 I feel like Shaq, you could say Shaq was more dominant than Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 2 Shaq was dominant. Shaq was the best big man I've ever seen or played against, period.

Speaker 2 Elijah Juan is the best power forward center. Kevin McKell used to give me the business.

Speaker 2 I can go down the line. But when we talk about what...
impact of the game, you know you're going to talk about Kobe winning five championships

Speaker 2 in 10 years, right? And then you got LeBron all the way to 220 from 10 to 20. Now, the next 10, we'll see who's going to be the one.
Who do you think it is? It might be Giannis.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it might be.

Speaker 1 Do you think I saw a take maybe last week? Kevin Durant was like, it's just becoming lame that everything has to be put into legacy talk.

Speaker 1 Do you agree with that?

Speaker 2 I agree with that 100%. People just need to watch it.
I think Kevin Durant is the best player playing today. He's my favorite player.
I'm a woman. He's probably mine too, yeah.
But he's right.

Speaker 2 Like, everything has to be the goat of this or the goat of that. You can't be the goat of everything, like it, it can't be the for those who uh don't understand the acronym the greatest of all time.

Speaker 2 See, I do that just to help some people who's literally like most of what we talk about.

Speaker 5 If you don't, if you don't know what to talk about on a sports show, you know this. It's just like figure out a debate who's the goat, and then boom, two hours of erratimo.

Speaker 2 It's really hard to do because I did a show with Matt Bonds and

Speaker 2 Steven Jackson the other day, other than the smoke, and we talked about our 75 and people who were left out.

Speaker 2 Adrian Danley,

Speaker 2 Bernard King,

Speaker 2 I think they were in the top 50.

Speaker 2 I kept telling these guys, I'm sure they were in the top 50 players.

Speaker 2 When they leave them out, you have to realize why they were left out is for the marketing of the league.

Speaker 2 If you want to market your league a certain way, as soon as you say a name, kids now get on and they look it up. They want to make sure it leads them right back to being in love with the NBA.

Speaker 2 So I always say that. So when I say Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time, he is the greatest of our era, the era that I played in.

Speaker 2 He became bigger than Magic, bigger than Larry, bigger than Dr. J.

Speaker 2 And the NBA started in 1984 with David Stern. David Stern was the marketing tool that turned the NBA into what it is today.
And it was David Stern and Michael Jordan. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Moses and Jesus.

Speaker 6 And that's how they did it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Which one's which?

Speaker 2 David Stern, I called him the Don because he was definitely a mafioso running it, and he hated it. I called him that, but he had to respect.

Speaker 2 He had to kick some butt. I've always kept going.

Speaker 5 I've wondered that about David Stern because he always seems so soft-spoken in any media that he does.

Speaker 5 But you can't run the business the way that he ran the business and just be like a normal, like robot face.

Speaker 5 Like Roger Goodell is kind of that way with the NFL, where he's really good at talking and just making people's eyes glaze over.

Speaker 5 Like they don't want want to listen to what he's saying because he's kind of bland.

Speaker 5 But I always got the sense that David Stern had a switch that flipped when he wasn't in front of a camera and he was like a bulldog.

Speaker 2 Like, he had a mean streak to him.

Speaker 6 He was tough.

Speaker 2 He was tough because I was player rep. I love David.
David always gave me a lot of love. And Adam Silver is my man, 50 grand.
The perfect person to hand the NBA over to was Adam Silver.

Speaker 2 He's a thinker. He pushes it through.
And

Speaker 2 I think Commissioner Cadell

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 I'm not going to say you glaze over. Look how much he has to deal with.
He has to deal with like

Speaker 2 really this may be a baseball. It used to be a baseball country, but football rules.

Speaker 12 our country.

Speaker 2 It just does. And people can't deny it.

Speaker 5 I guess the difference that I always see between Goodell and Stern is like Goodell, his job is to be the punching bag for all the other owners. And he essentially answers to all them.

Speaker 5 They're calling the shots. David Stern always struck me as a guy that he had like the drive and initiative and the vision.

Speaker 5 And he was like implementing his agenda onto the owners as opposed to the other way around.

Speaker 5 Is that kind of the perception that you had?

Speaker 2 If they put him in charge, he's let me drive this bus. And that was the deal.
And he was helping the owners who were running into bad contracts,

Speaker 2 the NBA almost failing, buying the ABA, trying to put that together.

Speaker 2 They thought the lead was

Speaker 2 going in the wrong direction. We weren't big on television.
It came 11 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the morning. We didn't have a good TV deal.

Speaker 2 CBS wound up losing it to NBC, which made it more glitzy. And then it came over to ABC and ESPN and TNT.

Speaker 2 And now it's what we see.

Speaker 2 I can say it. I was on Fox.
I love being on the best damn sports show, period. It was probably the best TV I've ever done in the best time.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 ESPN became the authority on sports until there was Bostu. And then after that, now you got everybody realizing, I can do what this guy's doing or do what's close to this.

Speaker 2 But at that one time, you would turn on SP, and that would be the answer.

Speaker 1 It was almost like that, it would be like, all right, here's the narrative that's being said.

Speaker 5 That was a very, very diplomatic way of being like, you guys are a bunch of assholes. And you made every other asshole out there be like, oh, I could do this.
And it's not far off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 2 I am 100% right.

Speaker 2 But you guys are really good at it.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 1 I don't want to do the legacy talk, but I do have one that always confuses me. Why does Isaiah get kind of lost in the shuffle of like, you know, some of the best of all time point guard?

Speaker 1 And, like, doesn't it feel like that sometimes?

Speaker 2 Yeah, they hate him because he's short.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the conversation always is like, here are the best point guards. And Isaiah gets mentioned, but he always gets mentioned fourth or fifth.

Speaker 2 Because they get in the way.

Speaker 2 They let everything else, the propaganda that the Chicago Bulls put on Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 2 That was propaganda.

Speaker 2 They let everything else get in the way of his greatness. And I tell people, I said, the greatest play I've ever played with is Isaiah Thomas.
And I have played with Michael.

Speaker 2 I have played with Kobe and Shaq. But the greatest play was Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 1 So that's your bad take of the day.

Speaker 2 There you go. He's six foot, and he did everything everybody else was doing.
And in the same amount of time that Steph Curry was playing, Isaiah had better stats. But no one wants to mention it.

Speaker 5 But Steph Curry was like a much, much, much better shooter, like the greatest to ever shoot a basketball.

Speaker 2 Right, correct. Not really.

Speaker 1 Well, yes, actually, really.

Speaker 2 I think he is.

Speaker 1 I actually went to the game where he broke the record for most three-pointers.

Speaker 2 Right, but his dad was a hell of a shooter. Right, but he actually,

Speaker 6 I think by everybody.

Speaker 2 Angie Miller was a hell of a shooter.

Speaker 2 And Steph Curry was better. Dale Ellis was a hell of a shooter.
Steph Curry's better. Yeah, better.

Speaker 2 Can I keep going down the line?

Speaker 1 Somebody you can actually look up.

Speaker 2 Like, he has the best three points. And how many more shots he's taking?

Speaker 5 But percentage-wise, for that many shots, I like what you're doing because it's kind of like the making you research. No, yeah, you're making me think too hard.
That's what's

Speaker 5 going on. But it's the opposite of what's normally said, which is like back in the day, like the NBA was more violent.
It was a man's game down low.

Speaker 5 You're saying that actually the shooting, I've never heard that argument that the shooting was better back in like the late 80s, early 90s.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, Dale's father graduated when I, Dale's father, I mean, Steph's father, Dale Curry, was an unbelievable shooter at

Speaker 2 in West Virginia. Where was he at?

Speaker 5 Was he at Virginia Tech?

Speaker 2 Yes, Virginia Tech. Unbelievable.
And I went to Georgia Tech, a school that really concentrates on studies, unlike the rest of the tech schools.

Speaker 2 And I thought his father was one of the smoothest shots in the world. But then we had Chuck Person and we had

Speaker 2 Dale Ellis and we had

Speaker 2 who else did we have that was a great shooter at at that time?

Speaker 5 Steve Kerr.

Speaker 2 Steve Kerr, statistically, percentage-wise, is actually the best of all time.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear you.

Speaker 2 Say it again because you said. No, percentage-wise,

Speaker 1 but Steph Curry's made and attempted like 4X what Steve Kerr shot.

Speaker 2 More shots. When you play with Michael Jordan, if he didn't play with Michael Jordan, he would have gotten more shots.
The offense was set up for him to do. Listen, I'm a huge Steph Curry fan.

Speaker 2 Doesn't sound like it. You're not.
It doesn't sound like it.

Speaker 5 What does Steph say about you?

Speaker 2 Oh, Steph loves me. But he's not because he was our ball boy and I know his daddy.

Speaker 2 But you're not going to literally cancel the rest, and he won't let you do that.

Speaker 1 I actually am looking at the list right now. I'm actually okay with saying Kyle Corver because Kyle Corver does have a higher percentage than Steph, and he's made a lot of threes.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I'm cool with that. Kyle Corver, best three-point shooter of all time.

Speaker 2 See, you guys did cheat in college, I can tell, because you only look in at the cliff notes. Yeah.
That's not cheating.

Speaker 5 This is called being efficient.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's more being efficient.

Speaker 2 efficient yeah you have all that college just to drink you're just i got i got the piece of paper that's all that matters when you graduate i gave it to my mother i've got other passions and interests you're just when i was in college you're just really good at whenever you say a definitive statement you're like that's just not true and being able to move off it it's not true but the deal is because when you check the because i remember i was there and that's what i i just said on this other show like i don't what other people think of you is none of your business that's the first thing what they say about you if it's not true you shouldn't give it any credence.

Speaker 2 But when you're a person who I've been in this business and I looked and I said, man, that's not true. You're trying to push us in this direction.

Speaker 2 And I remember I was on the SB one time and I said, Michael Jordan was the greatest of all time. And you would have thought I said

Speaker 2 something crazy like, yo, Bin Laden just knocked on my door yesterday. He ain't dead.
You know, something out of this world. He's tall.

Speaker 2 And I said, man, this dude with a beard, he kept saying, let me in.

Speaker 2 And I realized that they have a target and they have to deal with that target. They have to say it because they all push it the same way.
And I'm not like that. I'm just not.

Speaker 2 And I say it, and I say this all the time. I tell MJ, I said, every time they say it, I'm going to say this.
And he goes, Sal, you're crazy.

Speaker 2 They're going to kill you. I said, I know, but you know what? I like messing with you and I like messing with them.
He'll laugh about it all day.

Speaker 1 You're like, yeah, I mean, we...

Speaker 5 They do take it very seriously sometimes.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, it's church. It's like scriptures.

Speaker 2 And they don't even play.

Speaker 1 So we, we, we,

Speaker 2 Greenie can ball. Greenie can ball.

Speaker 1 We like to mock these debates, but we also understand that, like, if you're sitting at a bar and you're just having a debate, like.

Speaker 1 Saying who's the greatest of all time, that's just how people will talk to each other.

Speaker 2 I know, but.

Speaker 1 It's stupid. It doesn't mean anything.
It's silly, but it's also how we converse.

Speaker 12 A kid told me, he said, you know what?

Speaker 2 Kobe Bryant is the greatest player I've ever seen in my life. I said, how old are you? He said, 16.
He said, I agree.

Speaker 2 Because in 16 years, you've been watching and paying attention since you were nine. So in 50 years.
Kobe is better than LeBron in your mind.

Speaker 2 In that time, from 2000 to 2010, and that kid, you can't tell him anything different.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so who's the best of all time? If you were to set it up, so

Speaker 5 if you had a one-on-one tournament.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think. Okay.
And you're allowed to hand check and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 I put magic like Magic would be pretty tough.

Speaker 2 Magic and Larry Burris.

Speaker 2 He's big, yeah.

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant would be pretty tough with his height. I mean, LeBron would probably, in terms of the whole package one-on-one,

Speaker 9 it would be tough to beat LeBron.

Speaker 2 Or Kevin Durant. Yeah.
But if you give the ball to Magic first, you're going to lose.

Speaker 5 How about this, though? Counter-argument. Kobe simply would not allow himself to lose.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Kobe was no joke. It was funny, too, man, because it would look at somebody that can totally take over the game and put it on my back like Joel is going to do with Philly.

Speaker 2 Pretty soon, he's going to realize, hey, all I got to do is put the ball in the basket every time they give it to me. Right.
Yeah. Right.
It's easy.

Speaker 2 Once you think that way, it'd be like Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor used to say, he's been, oh, you're the quarterback?

Speaker 2 And he would run and something would be in his way and he'd move it out of the way and then grab the quarterback.

Speaker 5 It's a simple game. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 We make it complicated. Right.
You got to look at it that way, too.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I alluded to it at the beginning, but you've had a million different jobs, fun jobs, crazy jobs, TV, sports, obviously, playing sports.

Speaker 2 I'm semi-Jamaican.

Speaker 1 Semi-Jamaican. What's your favorite job that you've ever had?

Speaker 2 Best damn sports show period.

Speaker 1 So that's better than playing in the NBA.

Speaker 2 Yeah. NBA.

Speaker 2 It's so funny because I wouldn't look at it as a job. Right.
And as soon as it started feeling like a job, it was wrong for me. So I used to love going to practice.

Speaker 2 I love running into practice because, you know, I got paid to practice. Right.

Speaker 2 And I didn't look at it as a job. I looked at it as, because it's another thing, man.
When you get into the playoffs in April, these guys are not getting paid.

Speaker 2 Every bit of money they're playing for now, their contract stopped, and they're playing for bonus money, which the last guy on the bench is going to get the same amount.

Speaker 2 So this is mono e-mano playing, and this is the best time of the year because you're not saying, man, they gave you this much money. You should be.
Money does not make you superhuman.

Speaker 2 You know, it makes you super sexy, but it doesn't make you super human. That's a great quote.
Right?

Speaker 2 So I liked when you get to the point where there is no money, you're not getting that big contract, the sun is out, it's hot outside, and it's just, I don't have to literally play you tonight and then play another team the next night and then two nights.

Speaker 2 I only got you to worry about. That's why I felt I played better and we played better because we were really good at focusing.
Right.

Speaker 5 So on the Best Damn Sports Show,

Speaker 5 who is your best friend on the set?

Speaker 2 I'm my best friend. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's really hard.

Speaker 5 I should have known that. Yeah.
That's a dumb question.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 The reason I say that is because I've been in Hollywood and I've been an athlete my whole life and they can trade a guy you can get you can quit on a high school team and then you got to all try out to audition so you got to destroy the guy in front of you so when you're in in your work situation it's not really friendship like you guys are constituents and you work together you got a good chemistry let's not mess it up let's keep it going but you you don't hang out in this house on the weekend yeah but i would consider big cat to be my friend yeah really yeah i think we're pretty close friends.

Speaker 5 Everybody in this room. Now, it is true.

Speaker 2 We're family.

Speaker 5 It is true. Yeah, we're closer than friends.

Speaker 1 That's probably why Best Damned Sports Show stopped.

Speaker 2 Yeah, after nine years. You guys weren't family.
I've been doing this for six. Yeah, when you get nine years, talk to me.

Speaker 1 But I feel like

Speaker 2 it is fair, though.

Speaker 5 Like, when you work around somebody all the time, we don't hang out on the weekends.

Speaker 5 We've got our separate things that we go home and we do and see the people that we don't see when we're here at the office.

Speaker 5 But was there one person that you had the best chemistry while you were working? Michael Irvin.

Speaker 2 Okay. Michael Irvin is by far one of the great.
And then

Speaker 2 Michael Strahan is probably my favorite person I've worked with. So Shocks fired at Regis.
You hated Regis.

Speaker 2 I never was with Regis. Oh, you weren't? No.
You never saw that show? Other iteration.

Speaker 5 Oh, the second iteration. When you were watching that, were you like, this, you know, what back in my day, when

Speaker 5 Best Damn Sports Show was a more physical league, when I dominated, these guys couldn't hang back then.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 And when they went to

Speaker 2 the best thing was Carissa Thompson. I love Carissa Thompson.
She's about to be a song. She's a psych.

Speaker 5 She's a psycho, but I love her.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 I just saw my man,

Speaker 2 one of my boys, and I said that. I said, baby girl got married.
And she didn't. But she's such a dude, but a pretty girl.
I loved it. And she knows what I mean by that.

Speaker 2 She was definitely a person you can roll with.

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Speaker 1 Who is your favorite teammate in the NBA? Because you played for some famous teams. You played for the 96 Bulls.
You played for the Bad Boy Pistons. You played with Kobe and Shaq and the Lakers.

Speaker 1 Four rings, three different teams.

Speaker 5 Nobody talks about you like they talk about Robert Ore.

Speaker 5 I feel like they should.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 Three decades, two millenniums.

Speaker 2 No one ever brings it up. Two millennials.

Speaker 2 That's great. Two millenniums.
Yeah, let's work on this. I'm going to name a couple of guys.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'd love to hear, again, like store why they are.

Speaker 2 Glenn Rice. Okay.
Because he's Glenn Rice, and

Speaker 2 he's just one of the greatest people I've been around. Brian Shaw.
Okay. Keith Askins.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Chuck Nevitt, who was 7'5, played it. Chuck Nevitt literally taught me comedy,

Speaker 2 timing.

Speaker 2 Rick Mahorn, James Edwards,

Speaker 2 Johnny Long.

Speaker 2 And then what other team was I on?

Speaker 2 Toronto, man, big O.

Speaker 2 Murray, Tracy Murray.

Speaker 2 Who is.

Speaker 1 Okay. So

Speaker 1 that's a good list of teammates that, like, your best friend.

Speaker 2 Judge Bushler, Randy Brown, Steve Kerr.

Speaker 2 I love those guys on Chicago. I wish I could have stayed on Chicago.
I loved the makeup of that squad. It was dope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so yeah, we obviously watched, you know, everyone talks about Michael Jordan as a teammate. Do you?

Speaker 2 Oh, I love Michael as a teammate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like he,

Speaker 1 judging it now,

Speaker 1 looking back at it, you can be like, whoa, he was such a dick. But it felt like, from everyone in the locker room, you could tell me I'm way off.

Speaker 2 Probably.

Speaker 1 Well, they respected the fact that he was that competitive and everyone wanted to be better because of the standard he set.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 let me put it to you this way.

Speaker 2 I didn't realize until

Speaker 2 last dance that we were so in his head. If we would have known that, they would have never been champions.
If we would have known how. Oh, you mean the Pistons you're talking about?

Speaker 2 Yeah, if we would have known how much.

Speaker 1 Well, you guys basically played football and a basketball.

Speaker 2 No, no, that was the Celtics. The Celtics were, and I got video to prove it.
The Celtics were

Speaker 2 this team that would knock you out of the air. Look at the finals with the Lakers.
They put it on TV. The Celtics were dirty, and they would get a whole bunch of goons on the side.

Speaker 2 You thought it was a hockey team from Boston, right? You thought you were playing the Brewers or the Celtics. And that was the way the game was played.

Speaker 2 Everyone would call us bad boys because we didn't put up with any sugar, honey, iced tea.

Speaker 2 And I just sit and I think about MJ. And if I knew it, and I was as competitive, all of us are as competitive as MJ, the entire Piston team.

Speaker 2 So he was like, I'm doing this all by myself, and I got no help. You didn't have any help because we punked everybody else.

Speaker 2 And when guys wanted to stand up, I got a video when they wanted to hit us back and do things and stand back. We were laughing.

Speaker 2 We were like, oh, you guys are trying to be, you know, they would hit and they would stand there. You ever see an NBA fight? You put your hands down, put your chin forward.
I was a dumbass.

Speaker 2 So I would laugh when they did that. And I'm telling you, if we knew that we had MJs,

Speaker 2 number that way, we would have really put it on them because it would have never happened.

Speaker 2 Y'all would have never seen the Bulls be what they become. And by that time, you know, we were like not the team we were.
Right.

Speaker 2 We got to the end, we got to the Eastern Conference Finals, but we weren't, we didn't have, we didn't have what we had.

Speaker 1 How hard is it to repeat? Because that's, I mean, that, that feels like, I mean, when was the last time we had a repeat? It's been, oh, I guess the Warriors. Oh, the Warriors, yeah.

Speaker 1 So that happens a lot. But I always think that that toll it takes,

Speaker 1 you know, year after year is playing that deep into the season,

Speaker 1 it's got to be a point where you're like, I'm just tired.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, this is the other problem.

Speaker 2 Winning the championship is very hard. Trust me.
But when you win the championship, the next year, you're the one everyone is gunning at. There are no soft games.
Right.

Speaker 2 Everybody is like, oh, we're about to play the champs. I'm going to get my, I'm going to get.
Matter of fact, I'm hurt.

Speaker 2 I kind of got a knee pain on Tuesday, but on Thursday, they're jumping 80 inches out of the gym. You know what I'm saying? All of a sudden, you were hurt two days ago.

Speaker 5 Probably more games on TV, too, so guys get more amped up for that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they get more amped to get at us.

Speaker 2 In Boston, I remember one time

Speaker 2 somebody was ringing the fire alarm every half an hour, so we couldn't take it. Oh, yeah, at the hotel? Yeah.
I love that.

Speaker 5 That's probably Hank.

Speaker 2 Hank probably broke in our producer.

Speaker 5 You mentioned Glenn Rice. You probably haven't been asked this question, but when I hear Glenn Rice's name, I always think back to the rumor that came out like seven, eight years ago.

Speaker 5 Sarah Palin, when she was a sports reporter, I don't know if she was a son of a dog.

Speaker 2 You don't know what I'm talking about. I have the right to remain silent.
Anything I say, Kennedy will be used against me in a court of court.

Speaker 5 Because Glenn allegedly confirmed it to the reporter, but he never said anything publicly. Did he ever mention that to you? Like him and her used to be a thing?

Speaker 2 Crickets. Crickets.
No, he never mentioned anything to me. About it.
I met Sarah Palin at a really big-time party in Malibu, and she said, she turned around, she said, Spider Sally.

Speaker 2 And I said, Sarah Palin. She was like, hey, how you doing? And I looked at her.
I said, boy, you done got big time. Because she used to live in Portland.
And, you know, she was big time.

Speaker 2 I met her back then. So I love what Sarah Palin had turned into.
Well, some of the things she says, I didn't, but I love that she went from this point to this point to this point.

Speaker 2 I like to see people build themselves into something better.

Speaker 5 But Glenn never, never once mentioned it to you.

Speaker 2 No, and Glenn was married all the times I was around Glenn, and he used to make me, because he was so, and I was just getting married. He was so into it.

Speaker 2 He said, man, I don't want to go to the nightclubs, man, and be

Speaker 2 with all these guys. I'm not into it.
So we would go to the movies, and I love movies.

Speaker 2 So we would go see a different movie. And then I would take him to see some independent movie.
Sal, don't take me to see nothing like that again, man. I don't even understand.

Speaker 2 And then there was words going under the bottom, you know, that kind of thing. But I loved, I loved going to movies.
So we would find different movies we would go to.

Speaker 2 We would eat and go to the 9 o'clock show, which would finish at 11.15. We're not going to go to sleep to 2 o'clock anyway.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So what about the bad boy Pistons? Who was, like in your opinion,

Speaker 5 the leader of the bad boys or like the baddest boy?

Speaker 2 Was Rick Mahorn was the baddest and still is the baddest of the bad boys. And then Bill Amber

Speaker 2 is Bill Amber, let me tell you, I tell you, Lamb would put

Speaker 2 all, you can boom, you can do all of that stuff and throw it at him.

Speaker 2 Give it to me. And it was like fuel.
It was fuel. The smartest player, one of the smartest players I've ever been with, was Bill Lambert.
Really thought it through. Isaiah Overthink.

Speaker 2 Is that a word? Think. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But he was so. particular.
I remember one time he was like, we should win about 64 games this season with this team. I was like, what are you talking about? And he had looked at the whole schedule.

Speaker 2 He goes, well, you guys don't act right when we go to L.A., so I'm going to take every day.

Speaker 2 And he wouldn't hang out, but

Speaker 2 faults, and he knew our strengths.

Speaker 1 What's the sneaky

Speaker 1 not act right city? Because everyone obviously picks L.A. and Miami.

Speaker 2 Atlanta. Atlanta, okay.
Yeah. So Atlanta, look out because we're gamblers.
Atlanta, Houston. Okay.

Speaker 2 Dallas. Okay.

Speaker 2 Utah.

Speaker 5 Utah.

Speaker 2 Why? Some of the prettiest women on the planet are in Utah, and they're trying to get out. Say that.

Speaker 2 What about New York?

Speaker 5 You're a New York guy.

Speaker 2 I'm a New York guy, but it was, you know, back in the day, we had the shop, but there's nowhere to hang out in New York now. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Didn't they rob

Speaker 2 one of the players a little while ago leaving a strip joint? So he was leaving a strip joint. He got in the Uber, too cheap to have his own car, a driver.
Who says, you know, now they learn.

Speaker 2 And they pulled and they got him and they shot him in the leg. I remember that.
So there's no place to hang out.

Speaker 2 Fuck, who was that? See, the fact that no one remembers it is amazing. D.C.
is also, Philadelphia is a great place to go, but you know,

Speaker 2 if you go out with a girl, she might have you set up one of down on those crazy streets.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so when you come back, like in New York, when you would come back and play here as being, you know, like from the area, but you're playing for a rival team, did the fans, did they respect you in the garden?

Speaker 5 Did they? Hell no. The Mecca did not respect you.

Speaker 2 Literally, I was on a foul line

Speaker 2 during the exhibition game my first year, and the guy said, Sally, you still a duck. And I started dying.
I started laughing. I backed up.

Speaker 14 I laughed. I nodded.
And I got up and I shot.

Speaker 2 So I'm not a Knick fan. I was a Celtic fan growing up in Brooklyn.
So obviously, a lot of people didn't like me or what I thought about.

Speaker 2 But I had this thing about being a fan of a team that hired the first black coach and won all the time. I didn't like a team that only won two years and everybody acts like 1972, 73 is coming back.

Speaker 2 It's not. They're never going to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's what is if you had to describe New York basketball, though, growing up? Because that's, I, I mean, you love

Speaker 1 I, the uh, Chris Paul did it the other night when he when he tried to do the God Sham God, and it was like great to see because then everyone was like, oh, fuck, like, that's a style of basketball, that play, God, sham, God, a legend.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously, didn't have the NBA career, but there's something almost romantic about each city's brand of basketball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, New York City brand is. I played in every single

Speaker 2 park, usually. I can, not every single one, mostly, I think every park in Manhattan, in Queens, in Brooklyn, a lot in the Bronx, but I've never played at the Rucker.

Speaker 2 And the reason I never played at the Rucker is I wanted to have my career solidified as a pro. And they kept thinking, why not?

Speaker 2 Because I remember there's a guy who didn't go to class, who failed out, who literally snorted cocaine, and probably was better than everybody in the NBA playing at the Rucker.

Speaker 2 And I didn't need to prove it. I just needed to go go to college and get into the pros.
But I've never played at the Rucker.

Speaker 2 But I also played, I'm from Brooklyn, but I played with the Gauchos and I played with Ditmus All-Stars, Ted Gusses, Vanguard with Gil Reynolds,

Speaker 2 Bonnie Davis. I just talked to Bonnie Davis a few minutes ago.
I played with the right coaches in the right places. But in New York, basketball is do or die.

Speaker 2 And I went in there with a mentality of, this is my life. And if you dunk on me, you play better than me, I lose my life.

Speaker 1 So who is the guy

Speaker 2 growing up who maybe played at rucker who was just better than everyone who didn't make it to the pros was there one guy who's like oh we talk about this guy and he's just incredible or old man a goat yeah yeah the goat and then but let me tell you is the guy in new york that in brooklyn fly williams fly williams great name yeah fly williams going against world be free i i saw that i went to see that i went to see world be free who also was a great brooklyn player my favorite player was bernard king of all time It was the only time I was a Knick fan, is watching BK.

Speaker 2 Only time.

Speaker 5 So I was going to follow up on that because I thought you were talking about Earl Manigoat, whose story is amazing. If you haven't read about him, I would suggest they made a movie.

Speaker 2 Don Cheeto. Don Cheeto played it.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Allegedly like one of the greatest basketball players to ever walk the earth. Did you ever see him play against NBA players?

Speaker 2 No, I haven't. I tell you this, and it was another thing, too.
When we would see NBA players,

Speaker 2 in Brooklyn, we'd be like, yo, I'm about to give him the business. Right.
Nobody was like, hey, man, I'm a fan of yours. You don't do that.
You don't won. I had to tell David Robinson that in college.

Speaker 2 He came up and said, man, I'm a huge fan of yours. And I was playing him the next day.
And I was like, oh, thanks. And I realized he wasn't looking to kill me.

Speaker 6 He was a fan of mine.

Speaker 2 So I got him in foul trouble. And at the end of the game, I said, never tell anybody how much you like him.
When he got into pros, he was trying to tear my head off. That's awesome.
Yeah.

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I'm here for free.

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Speaker 2 Pardon my take. Yes.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 Yes, and you started this whole thing.

Speaker 2 I sure did. All of it.

Speaker 2 Me and the henchmen. And if they tell you, back when Gawker, remember when it was Gawker?

Speaker 2 And all of a sudden, I would do spider stories, and I would have tons of views, which in 2011, I didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Speaker 2 I would just do it and leave, realizing I was giving away all this free content.

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Speaker 2 Hey, go ahead.

Speaker 5 Quick question. You made a couple assertions about large herbivores as the exemplary of diet, large muscle mass, those types of things.

Speaker 5 But you kind of discount that a lot of these herbivores have way different digestive systems and spend most of their day eating vegetation.

Speaker 5 For example, the lowland gorilla spends about 90% of its day eating different vegetation.

Speaker 2 Which ones?

Speaker 2 Leaves.

Speaker 2 Leaves. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Right. And fruit.
And

Speaker 5 shoots and any type of vegetation in the jungle.

Speaker 13 Right. In the lowlands.

Speaker 2 While trying to have children. So I know what you were going to go.
10%.

Speaker 2 Right. 10% of his time.
But also,

Speaker 2 he's literally... Yeah, he's trying to farther and continue the race.
Now, I know what you're going to talk about, the stomachs, right? A cow having four stomachs and they having to...

Speaker 2 Well, we have one.

Speaker 2 And we take bovine fluid, which is not designed for a human body. It's designed for bovine.

Speaker 2 So when you eat bovine fluid, for you guys that don't know that, called milk, well, cow milk, it doesn't digest.

Speaker 2 So, not only am I black ass not lactose intolerant, none of us are to deal with lactose intolerance.

Speaker 2 Ice cream?

Speaker 2 Not cow ice cream.

Speaker 5 No, but some, I mean, some people do continue to have

Speaker 5 lactose in their

Speaker 2 exact enzyme to break down lactose

Speaker 5 later. Yes, they do.

Speaker 2 No, they're certainly. Later on through life.
Those are called pimples. And so that big white thing that comes on your forehead

Speaker 2 is your body literally trying to. Well,

Speaker 5 we've totally digressed from the actual question.

Speaker 2 Can I just show you the question? Is it truly not mutation?

Speaker 5 I'm going to run Billy through the translator.

Speaker 5 So I think what Billy's getting at is that he's saying that, yes, certain animals can get big and develop muscle mass, but they spend an amount of their day eating these things that we as humans, we don't have 90% of our day to sit around eating leaves.

Speaker 5 It's inefficient. Most of plant matter is made up of cellulose, which is made from cell walls, when we are made up of cell membranes.
We can't consume those.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I got a question. Within the cell, right?

Speaker 2 Within the mitochondria, how do you clean that? If you eat things that are blocking your body, you literally are slowing down the fan and you're slowing down your cell production.

Speaker 2 And if we're talking on a cellular level, when you're speaking on a cellular level, you should only eat things, cells that can go in your mouth, give you fuel, and be removed.

Speaker 2 When you're eating dead carcass, your body now, when it goes into your stomach, recognizes it as flesh, throws an enzyme around it, it, and says, hey, you're eating yourself or you're eating of yourself when it only recognizes cells.

Speaker 2 I forgot to tell you, too, I'm almost a doctor. But besides that.

Speaker 2 You have a quick question about that.

Speaker 5 When it takes to, so you're talking about like high cholesterol and a lot of the oils that go in?

Speaker 2 That comes out of the food that you're eating.

Speaker 2 We're not supposed to eat the cholesterol. When you eat eggs, that's 100% cholesterol.
And that's bad LDL. You don't want to eat that.

Speaker 2 So if you're eating 100% cholesterol in your body, you are now slowing down your blood content. You're adding so much blockage within your veins and you're causing your heart to beat harder.

Speaker 5 But doesn't that have more to do with insulin sensitivity, which has to do with muscle mass rather than actual cholesterol levels?

Speaker 2 No. So when you're taking these cholesterol,

Speaker 2 most of your insulin comes from your liver. So if you're blocking your liver, you now put all the

Speaker 2 problem or

Speaker 2 the added onto your pancreas, which doesn't make anywhere as close to the insulin as your liver does.

Speaker 5 So if you don't don't eat things that block your liver you now will not become diabetic or have this insulin problem now back to keep no but seriously to keep your insulin like that ref from the box no no but keeping your insulin levels i mean your insulin sensitivity a lot of that is affected by high sugars seed oils and a lot of the stuff that you end up consuming is a vegetarian because you try to fill your hunger levels and try to eat stuff that is vegan or vegetarians and this is a lot of fruit sugars you know fructose, sucrose, just because you're searching to get energy from things that will give you energy and end up ruining your insulin sensitivity, lowering your muscle mass, and just all those benefits that you look for to eat the vegetarian diet.

Speaker 2 This is one way of looking at it, but this is the true way of looking at it. Your body does not want fructose.
Your body wants glutose.

Speaker 2 Well, glutose, that is what is helping the mitochondria of your cell. glucose.
But when you eat a Western diet, they're forcing sugar, which is fructose, into into your diet.

Speaker 2 When you eat a hamburger, all that sugar inside the bread, all the sugar inside of ketchup, all the sugar

Speaker 2 inside of mustard. When you eat, because your body's designed

Speaker 2 as a herbivore to only...

Speaker 5 I do not believe that humans were originally herbivores.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Chimpanzees.

Speaker 5 Chimpanzees, our probably closest living ancestor, eat other monkeys. They eat meat.
It is well documented.

Speaker 5 I think we are actually omnivorous and that was what created the extra but did we descend from chimpanzees or did we have a common ancestor

Speaker 2 when other animals did it listen and I'm gonna tell you something if we came from like remember that guy said if we're descended from apes why are there still apes because we're not descended from current apes we're descended from a common ancestor okay so this is going to get into a deeper thing and I want people to do the research.

Speaker 2 This is not me saying it. This is research.
Okay?

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Speaker 2 Black people have been on the planet for 16 years. 16,000 years.
They say the Caucasian has only been on the planet for 6,000 years.

Speaker 5 We're gentrifying.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 2 Then it came in and took over Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 2 So if that is a true statement, right? I got part of this from Dr. Ben Carson.
I'm not saying that, but he knows, and Dr. Clark.

Speaker 2 And so when we talk about humans and how the humans are designed, certain people are designed a certain way. Caucasians come from the Caucasus Mountains, supposedly.

Speaker 2 Now, when I went to Egypt, and I studied, and I just to let you know, I'm just going over. So different digestive going to it.

Speaker 2 Being you have light hair, light color skin, light eyes, obviously a cave dweller.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 2 because you had to come from you couldn't deal with the Sun your your your hair was elongated your nose was elongated because it was cold the air am I correct this is I've yeah

Speaker 2 hair on your body white have you seen Africans there's no hair on our body on our chest really so it's a different it's a different situation and when you when when you're in cold weather and you have to eat what's available is when they grabbed animals the first thing they did in Africa if you did it they did it in Japan too when they would eat a fish that's why sushi they would have a whole fish and have small amounts of it But when you eat something that boom that shuts your body down where you have to go to sleep, it's not just black people got negroitis or you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 White folks eat and get sleepy too. And they rubbed it because your body trying to digest something that is not supposed to be in it.
It's not giving it fuel.

Speaker 2 It shuts you down, make you go to sleep because the body is cleaning and digesting while you rest.

Speaker 1 I mean, this all makes sense to me because every time I eat a big meal, I want to go to sleep.

Speaker 2 Right. And you're lazy.
You don't want to walk. Yeah, that's true.
So, yeah, yeah, no, that's

Speaker 1 guilty. Guilty.

Speaker 5 Let's distill this debate down to something that everyone can understand. What is the greatest food of all time? Oh.

Speaker 2 The ones that

Speaker 2 the best thing about we call fast food fruit in the vegan world. Oh, that's so lame.
Yeah. If you graduate.

Speaker 5 They're eating too much fruit, though. I got excited for you.

Speaker 2 It's not glutose. It's glutose.
No, no.

Speaker 2 When you're eating fruit,

Speaker 2 it's a pear.

Speaker 5 Fructose is sugar from fruit.

Speaker 2 Okay, but this is sugar that your body identifies. The other sugar is literally like a residue of salt.
Like when you get table salt, that's a residue of sea salt.

Speaker 2 If you take sea salt, and I tell people that salt all the time,

Speaker 2 I literally would tell you to take a...

Speaker 2 a half a teaspoon of Celtic sea salt and put it in your mouth and literally swish it around for five minutes then spit that out and the reason I tell you that is now you have all the minerals that you need from the salt.

Speaker 2 And every time you eat, you will not have a taste. You will not say, hey, this needs salt.
It won't happen. And if you eat the fruit, right, you eat fruit that has

Speaker 2 the citrus fruit. Certain times you eat a citrus fruit.
I think you should eat bananas every day, especially man. It's good for your thing.

Speaker 2 And I also think that you should eat fruit and vegetables according to seasons that they grow. Because that's how your body is going to move, according to the sun and the moon.

Speaker 5 So you're saying banana is the greatest fruit of all time?

Speaker 2 The greatest fruit of all time is passion fruit to me. I love passion fruit.

Speaker 5 But you understand that corn syrup is fructose.

Speaker 2 Corn syrup is made, is a derivative of what they make in a factory. Anything made in a factory is factory made, and that's not it.
But anything made in nature,

Speaker 2 organically, not the ones, not the watermelons without seeds,

Speaker 2 not the GMO situation,

Speaker 2 you can eat it.

Speaker 2 You can't tell me that because I watch your same boat run backwards faster than most people run forward. He's a fruit-eating gazelle.
Is he a vegan? No, he should be because he's Jamaican.

Speaker 2 They eat oxtail and they eat oxtig. But most of the time,

Speaker 2 they're eating

Speaker 2 green and they're eating

Speaker 2 even rosters, right? Ostas don't eat anything that you can't catch in your hand. So if a fish, you catch it in your hand, you should eat it.

Speaker 5 So I don't preach, like when you said talking about cheeseburgers and stuff, I don't think that's healthy.

Speaker 5 I think it's a high-protein, like high-meat diet.

Speaker 2 Not high protein.

Speaker 5 Just

Speaker 2 you know, the key

Speaker 2 diet has been proven to cause heart attacks. Right, I'm saying that he's a healthy attack.
He had us on it, and we all, we all had a heart attack.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, no, no, but that depends on your age.

Speaker 5 Everyone in this room has kidney stones next to me because of Billy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay, so how do we get rid of kidney stones? This is what I want you guys to do. I want you to drink a liter of water, spring water a day, and I want you to put a teaspoon of baking soda in it.

Speaker 2 And throughout the day, I want you to drink that.

Speaker 2 That is going to help your kidneys give all the nutrients it wants, and we can hopefully eventually push the stones through your body without having to have pain. Okay.

Speaker 2 You got more?

Speaker 5 My last point.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Billy, you're already tapped.

Speaker 2 I didn't tap. I mean, we started talking about

Speaker 2 it.

Speaker 5 This is like a UFC fighter that's been submitted.

Speaker 2 They're raising the other guy's hand, and then Billy's finally waking up. He's like a tap match.

Speaker 2 I'm good.

Speaker 2 Billy, how old are you? I'm 23. Oh, yeah, I have children.
A sneaker's older than you. But that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 2 I'm glad you're at this point, but I want you to look, and I want you to to pay attention to literally what you eat should be, should go in, give you energy, and go out.

Speaker 2 And when you eat, when you eat dead carcass, your body is slowly to move that through your body and it dehydrates you, which makes it even slower to move through your body. But what if John Sally?

Speaker 2 Then your teeth would be sharper. And you would eat it raw.
If you really, really want to prove that you should eat meat, you should never cook it. Oh, here he doesn't.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, if you, what you're going to do is get really sick because it's decaying caucus. So the only way they can get around it is to change the DNA by cooking it more than 118 degrees.

Speaker 5 I just think that eating a healthy diet with meat, low carb,

Speaker 5 you know, without like all these processed stuff, seed oils, processed sugars, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying meat isn't really the devil.

Speaker 2 It's more the process.

Speaker 2 The people that kill Sentinel beings thinking that I deserve and I'm above them, nothing deserves to die. Let me just say this one thing today.
I'm going to get this to you.

Speaker 2 Remember I Am Legend with Will Smith, great movie. And I Am Legend 2 is coming out.
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If you had to hunt your food, you'd be a vegetarian. Guaranteed, because you would not be able, one, you wouldn't have a refrigerator.

Speaker 2 Two, if you killed the big old something, you would have to hurry up and get it before the real predators came and decided that you were going to be a side meal.

Speaker 2 And if it got to it, one thing you can't always go and get a kill, you're going to have to eat something. And it was, well, I eat beef jerky.
I'm not saying you do not eat vegetation. Right.

Speaker 2 But pretty soon that was all you'd be able to eat.

Speaker 1 All I'm going to say is I'm going to end this here.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait, wait. One more thing.
One more thing.

Speaker 1 John Sally definitely has done a lot of research.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've done this.

Speaker 2 This is all I did. One more thing.
One more thing.

Speaker 6 I wasn't going to get into like genetic diets.

Speaker 2 Yeah, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 Let me give you this one thing I want you to think of. So at one time,

Speaker 2 black folks were brought to this country and were enslaved. They did not give them meat.
And look how strong they were. There was no meat.

Speaker 2 They wasn't giving no slaves no steak. They wasn't giving them no chicken.
You better not kill that chicken. They were eating vegetables.
And look how strong they were.

Speaker 5 There's no chance Billy's going to have to have anything to say.

Speaker 2 It's happening. Josh,

Speaker 5 how about this, though?

Speaker 1 How about if you can accurately predict

Speaker 5 who the NBA Finals MVP will be right now, Tatum,

Speaker 5 then Billy has to go vegan for a month and try it?

Speaker 2 I put it to this way.

Speaker 2 If you do it, my source of vegan, if we can have a conversation and you don't lie,

Speaker 2 right,

Speaker 2 because you'll be lying to yourself.

Speaker 2 I told Madison too. Madison thinks I'm crazy on the stuff I'm trying to push in.
But I'm sure if you, because I did it the wrong way too, I was a junk food vegan and I was a processed food vegan.

Speaker 2 And it's not the way to be. I would give you things that they're not mentioning to you,

Speaker 2 digestive enzymes,

Speaker 2 systemic enzymes. I would make sure you took a certain amount of herbs.

Speaker 2 You're 23 years old. I would give you the right amount of herbs, especially ones that clean out your lower intestines.

Speaker 2 And I guarantee you, your cut of your body after dealing with me and your workout, I guarantee you're going to be like, yeah, and you're not, because I'm going to give you a fake cheat day, meaning you get a processed food day, just not a dead animal processed food day.

Speaker 5 Okay, so Billy, if it's Jason Tate, I'm NBA Finals MVP. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You have to go vegan for

Speaker 2 you his way.

Speaker 5 Taylor will drink Coors Light. He's Coors Light vegan.
Yes.

Speaker 2 All right, there we go. Coors Light.

Speaker 5 Or will I get strength gains?

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes.
I will be able to do it.

Speaker 2 And you should do more static workout than than doing lift. Your body will never push a weight.
So the more static and the more flexibility you get, the stronger you become.

Speaker 5 Will I be able to bench press more than I can?

Speaker 5 He only benches 20%.

Speaker 5 275.

Speaker 2 That's the best. Same as why.

Speaker 2 I don't know a girl that can do that. No, look behind me.

Speaker 5 275. That's my.

Speaker 2 That's your handwriting as well. Wow.
I guarantee you,

Speaker 2 how much do you want?

Speaker 2 How about I get 30 pounds on top of it?

Speaker 5 I benched over 300 pounds before, but that is what it is now.

Speaker 2 Nobody was there, so we don't believe you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was in college.

Speaker 2 You can check my records. You can check my girlfriend.

Speaker 5 My football coach has a record.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He also had needles in the back room.

Speaker 1 All right, so that will do it. I'll do it with you, Billy.
Jason Tatum, Finals MVP, will both go vegan.

Speaker 2 Yes. And we'll be back on.
I'll be back here in June for NFT New York. Check out JohnSallyCryptoshow.com, which is coming out hopefully in April.
In June. So I'm just all about crypto.

Speaker 2 I do kind of what you guys do.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I only talk about what I know, and I won't. If I don't know,

Speaker 2 I'll research that. I'll research that.
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 Well, everyone, check out Sneakerlla. Thank you so much, John.

Speaker 6 This has been awesome.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, come back.

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Speaker 1 We are going to finish up the show with our good friend Jersey Jerry back in studio for a little bring your lunch pail blue collar talk.

Speaker 1 Jerry, before we get to the questions, Hank has some questions. Let's do a little quick recap of the Steelers draft.
How are you feeling? You are wearing all Steelers gear

Speaker 1 as you do every day.

Speaker 2 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 9 Yep.

Speaker 1 What do you think about the draft?

Speaker 7 A minus.

Speaker 2 A minus.

Speaker 5 Oh, by the minus.

Speaker 7 I don't feel like they should have taken two receivers.

Speaker 7 So that's my only downfall.

Speaker 2 But you got to reach weapons.

Speaker 2 Whoa. Wait, Mitchell, I went home.
Does Mitchell need weapons or does Kenny need weapons? Oh.

Speaker 6 Are you guys putting me on the spot right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's quite soft.

Speaker 5 I think it's a legitimate question.

Speaker 7 This is what I'll say.

Speaker 7 I show respect to Mitch and his wife from day one. Mitchell.

Speaker 2 Just had a kid.

Speaker 7 Just had a kid. I show respect.
I reached out to.

Speaker 1 Did she ever respond to your DM?

Speaker 7 I reached out to the wife.

Speaker 7 I got left on not even seen.

Speaker 5 She didn't even care. What percentage of your DMs that you send out do you think get responded to?

Speaker 6 6%?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that seems about right.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. We were actually just talking to Will Compton, who's in the office this week, and they were going back and forth.
And Jerry's like, yeah, I asked TJ Watt,

Speaker 1 I DM'd him that when he goes up against Tara Luan, he's got to bury him. He didn't respond, but

Speaker 2 the message was sent.

Speaker 5 When I saw the DMs that you sent to TJ Watt, like long before you worked here, this is like back in the day, like right after you drafted,

Speaker 5 you started the conversation.

Speaker 5 I was just wondering,

Speaker 5 you probably have a dialogue running with 50% of the Steelers players.

Speaker 7 I'd say, yeah, I'd say close to 50%.

Speaker 1 Wait, what's...

Speaker 1 Can you read a couple of the TJ Watt DMs you sent over the years? Because those were very funny.

Speaker 1 It was Mac from from Always Sunny and Chase Huntley.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I got him right here.

Speaker 7 I mean, do you want me to go back?

Speaker 2 Yeah, just fire off a few. Read the one where you're like, and I'm a real football fan.

Speaker 1 Just fire him off.

Speaker 2 I said,

Speaker 1 these are all no responses, man.

Speaker 7 Yeah, these are all no responses. This is March 2nd,

Speaker 7 2020. TJ, one time I went to a Steelers game against the Jets.
I was sitting front row. I had a sign that said, TJ, can you sign my jersey? And you gave me a head nod.

Speaker 7 Unfortunately, I had a family emergency right after pregame and had to leave. Any chance if I pay you, would you be able to do that for me? You're my favorite player.

Speaker 7 After that, he put up a picture of his food. I said, Bully food.

Speaker 7 And then I just said, uh, March 31st, 2021. TJ, I work for, not going to mention his name, from Entourage.
Would you be interested in coming on a podcast for 20-30 minutes? Nothing.

Speaker 7 TJ, my name is Gerard, but you can call me Jersey Jerry. Today is my birthday.
I would love to make my birthday wish come true if you were able to just respond and say happy birthday.

Speaker 2 What age were you turning?

Speaker 7 That was when I was turning 26.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 When's your birthday, Jerry?

Speaker 7 May 11th. Whoa,

Speaker 5 so yeah, so what was your birthday wish this year?

Speaker 2 You got it. I got it.
What was it?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Dinner with Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 5 And Bicat.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, you said that part of me going to dinner was part of your birthday, wasn't it?

Speaker 11 Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if I said it here, but

Speaker 1 Kenny Pickett was at dinner and he just turned to him and it was like, hey, let me give you a little piece of NFL advice.

Speaker 1 And I thought it was going to be about, I don't know, like he was going to say like, hey, you know, make sure you rent, don't own because it's a tough league or like study the playbook.

Speaker 1 He just said, Friar Muth is always open.

Speaker 9 That was his advice.

Speaker 5 Great advice.

Speaker 2 Can I get that vape real quick? No. Thank you.

Speaker 7 That's a task. This is the one that really sent people over the edge.
I put, yo, TJ, I've been trying to reach you, bro, with a question mark.

Speaker 2 Oh, that got a little hostile. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you, what was the mood that day? You were just like, fuck this guy.

Speaker 7 He's, he's. No, I was just like, dude, like, this is like three years now.
I mean, I'm trying.

Speaker 2 I'm just trying to build a relationship. You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Like, I honestly, I consider myself like, and dude, like, a lot of the internet and like Twitter and like Instagram, like outside of Pittsburgh, they know me, bro.

Speaker 7 Like, I'm one, I'm one of the biggest fans. The only thing missing my whole life was the Pittsburgh roots.

Speaker 2 I never had that.

Speaker 1 But you, you are, you, like, I think the, I think Steelers fans like your passion.

Speaker 5 Yes, for sure.

Speaker 1 Steelers players like your passion.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 But let's now, roundabout way, go back to the question at hand.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so Mitch or Kenny. No, no, there was one more.
It went like, dear TJ, I wrote you, but still you ain't calling.

Speaker 5 I left myself my pager and home phone at the bottom.

Speaker 7 No, that was because they said that. They said that because I said, yo, TJ, I've been trying to reach you, bro.

Speaker 7 And they made a whole thing about it, like the stand, the M ⁇ M song.

Speaker 5 I kind of want to turn those DMs into the song.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, get Roan to rap them to the beat.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Mitch or Kenny?

Speaker 7 This is is where I stand. Exactly.
I'll put it to you very simply. Mitch gets

Speaker 7 picked up by the Steelers. Show respect immediately.
Follow him. Follow the wife.

Speaker 9 No problem. DM his wife immediately.

Speaker 2 Show respect.

Speaker 7 DM, show the wife respect. I didn't get an answer.
Now, you know, Kenny Pickett followed me.

Speaker 7 Kenny Pickett's a fan of mine.

Speaker 5 He showed you respect.

Speaker 7 Showed me respect from the jump. After dinner, you know what I got? I got a follow from Kenny's fiancé.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. A follow.

Speaker 7 That holds more weight in my book than a message.

Speaker 2 Right, sure.

Speaker 7 Agreed. So where I stand right now is simply this.

Speaker 7 Will I root for Mitch? Yes, I will.

Speaker 1 Because he's wearing the jersey.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 He's wearing the jersey.

Speaker 5 The Steelers jersey.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes.

Speaker 7 I thought you meant this jersey.

Speaker 1 So he's not wearing Dwayne Haskins' jersey.

Speaker 7 No, but.

Speaker 2 Hell, that threw me off.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 7 listen, I respect Mitch. I respect Caleb.
I respect those guys. But one thing those guys have to understand is,

Speaker 7 you know, Kenny ain't coming here to take part. Kenny coming here to take over, man.

Speaker 7 And if Mitch should appreciate that competition, and let's see who wins the job, man. Let's see who wins the job.

Speaker 1 And you are.

Speaker 1 Jerry is

Speaker 1 seeing Super Bowl for Kenny Pickett in his career.

Speaker 2 He's seeing it.

Speaker 7 I ain't seeing Super Bowl. I'm seeing Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 Oh, so as good as Ben.

Speaker 7 Listen, man, you know, you guys, all you guys at Barcelona did a good job of, you know, making me realize Big Ben, and I always loved Big Ben.

Speaker 7 And this year is going to be really weird for me because that's all I know. But his time was up a long time ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'd say.

Speaker 5 He hung on, but I think he almost did that out of respect for guys like you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was a crumb bum at the end. He wanted to stick around.

Speaker 2 He was a crumb bum, Dan. I mean, he was a crumb bum at the end.

Speaker 5 I mean, he, no, they should have won that last game.

Speaker 7 I think so.

Speaker 1 They're up 7-0.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, TJ. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Would you want Drew Brees if he came back?

Speaker 2 No. No.
No. I mean, he can't throw the ball 10 yards.
Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 Ten times a quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Listen, I stand with both guys.

Speaker 5 I don't know if he can do that, though.

Speaker 2 Who am I rooting for?

Speaker 2 You can say you're rooting for the Steelers. Who am I rooting for more? Yeah.
Kenny Pickett. Okay.
All right, that's fair. Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 I mean, you have a relationship with him.

Speaker 7 Of course, man.

Speaker 7 We're not only, we're friendly. You know what I mean? Like, we're doing dinners.
We're texting. I'm hitting him up

Speaker 7 after

Speaker 7 OTAs and stuff.

Speaker 9 He won game of the year.

Speaker 5 We got the jersey.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know where the jersey went. We have a jersey.
Kenny Pickett signed jersey in here.

Speaker 5 Wow. What happens if Kenny Pickett has a bad game? What do you do at that point? What does it say? What does it say? PMT.
That's nice. Game of the year, because he won my game of the year.

Speaker 2 That's sick. What do you do, though?

Speaker 5 What do you do if Kenny Pickett has a bad game?

Speaker 7 Listen, man, like, you know, I talked to Kenny about that, too, and I told him, I said, listen, I'll never disrespect you.

Speaker 7 Out of respect for you showing me love, I'll never bash you. You throw a pick.

Speaker 1 It's a bad throw. Wide receiver's fault.

Speaker 8 Should have thrown it to Friday.

Speaker 7 I could always use that excuse. Pat was open, Kenny.

Speaker 2 Come on. Think.

Speaker 1 Think.

Speaker 1 Remember what Jerry said. All right.
Let's do some, let's do some blue collar. Bring your lunch pail talk.
Hank, get us going.

Speaker 8 Hey, Jerry, it was always blue collar. Me and my buddy cleaned train stations around Massachusetts.
Anything from homeless man's shits on the ground to tearing down their tents at train stations.

Speaker 8 Any advice on what to do after a stressful day of work besides slug beers? It was always blue collar. Thanks, Jerry.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I pretty much

Speaker 7 thank you, Eric, for this.

Speaker 7 I took a

Speaker 7 massage, a foot massage out of here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Dude, that thing, dude, after work,

Speaker 7 like last night, I was here for a while. I didn't get home until like 11 o'clock.

Speaker 2 Long day.

Speaker 7 I went home, I took a shower.

Speaker 7 I put on the TV and I just put my feet in it and just got them foot massage.

Speaker 2 You're a foot guy.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, I'm a foot guy. Yeah.
Dude, that relaxes the shit out of you.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's a good one.

Speaker 5 It's a good thing. Just stick your foot into that thing.

Speaker 2 Hometics.

Speaker 5 Yeah, hometics. When you saw it, you were like,

Speaker 2 Eric, yes.

Speaker 5 Can I please have this? But are you going to use it? I was like, I'm not.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 I doubled down.

Speaker 7 I doubled down. Remember with the chair?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I had a full back to the chair. And Jerry's like, I noticed that you had the full back chair.
Is there any chance I can get that? I was like, no, I'm giving that to my mom for Mother's Day.

Speaker 1 Now, let me ask you a question, Jerry. When you put your feet in this thing, does it ever say, like, your feet aren't in it? Like, it doesn't register? Like, please put your full feet in.

Speaker 2 No, Dan.

Speaker 7 Well, that was a good one. My feet are small.

Speaker 7 I don't think, Pete, like, seven and a half is not bad.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 5 people blow that out of perception.

Speaker 2 They're perfectly normal size. Perfectly normal.

Speaker 5 When people say that, it says more about them than it does about you. I defend you.
Because, yeah, like, listen, you are as God made you, right?

Speaker 2 Where do they cut off youth sizes?

Speaker 2 Oh, Hank. Now you're just...
I'm curious. I'm only getting six.
Six, yeah. So you're way above that.
Yeah. I'm a size and a half above.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen a pair of shoes that were were maybe a little cheaper in the used size? You're like, I could buy these, maybe squeeze in them?

Speaker 2 Nah, I can't fit in those. I'm fucking seven and a half, bro.

Speaker 8 Hey, Jerry, fellow Jersey guy here. I'm running for the delegate position for my union, and the election is next month.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 8 I'm up against one guy who most know as a shady fuck, but he's been politicking, parentheses, promising things he can't follow through with, going out of his way to be friendly with guys he's not normally friendly with.

Speaker 8 It looks like it's going to be a close vote. How do I make sure he doesn't win and prevent my union from turning into bubblegum?

Speaker 2 Wow. You guys start a rumor that he fucks pigs.
Yeah, dude,

Speaker 7 blackmail the shit out of him.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. Just blackmail his ass.

Speaker 1 What were the politics like when it comes to union?

Speaker 7 Dude, it wasn't like, okay, so the union I was in, it was us, like our own supervision wasn't in the union. So it was like, whatever we say fucking goes, bro.

Speaker 7 Like, if, like, they'll come and say, hey, why is this job taking six hours when it should take three? Well, because it's taking six hours.

Speaker 2 Oh. Like, that's how it works.
Okay.

Speaker 7 You want to fucking, you know, get underground, go ahead. But you're not.
Right. Like, we run the job.

Speaker 7 We're the ones who pretty much say how long the job's going to take, how many people we need for the job. You know, and they're just there to make sure we work safe.

Speaker 7 But they get, they get, um,

Speaker 7 they get money for like if we don't work a lot of overtime, they get like more money.

Speaker 2 And if we don't work.

Speaker 1 So it's a conflict of interest when it comes to you with them.

Speaker 2 Okay. Exactly.

Speaker 7 Exactly. But yeah, we we run the show for sure.
100%.

Speaker 5 I think politics are politics, no matter what, you've got to play dirty. If you're not playing, if you don't play dirty, you're not going to win anything.

Speaker 2 Oh, of course. 100%.

Speaker 7 100%. I mean, we robbed a lot of time, but we fucking, we worked fucking hard for it.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 5 You deserve that. Jerry, when you clock out here,

Speaker 2 Jerry's the only person that actually has a time clock

Speaker 5 that he uses to punch in, punch out. You put in an eight-hour day, right? Even when you work.

Speaker 7 Listen, I'll be honest with you. My first couple months, like my first i could say my first three months i honestly went home like 230.

Speaker 7 yeah my first four months probably i went home like 230.

Speaker 7 but these last three months like i want to build a name for myself and i want to be around for a long time with barstall so you know i talked to danny's and like and you know dan doesn't believe this but hey you know one day i want to be big you know one day one day i want to be

Speaker 1 i don't think so i but no what i what i'm always laughing at is when you and rico sit there and you're like, we're going to take this whole thing over. And I just laugh about the idea of you guys

Speaker 5 running the whole show.

Speaker 2 In Billy. And Billy, yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be very funny. That's a funny idea.

Speaker 7 That'd be funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 8 What time do you leave now?

Speaker 2 I leave late now, man. Yeah, I leave.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 5 Like 6. So you're on the working man's train home.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 A lot of people would brief you. 100%.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're white-collar now.

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're white-collar.

Speaker 5 And I didn't want to bring this up, but I feel like I have to now.

Speaker 5 You performed some minor construction repairs around this office. There were some cement pieces that

Speaker 5 got dislodged. Yes.
That you went ahead, you put down the cement, you fixed it. Yes.

Speaker 2 It broke. It broke again.
Yeah, well, look.

Speaker 5 What are we paying for here?

Speaker 7 To back myself up.

Speaker 8 I got to pay him again to do it now.

Speaker 2 Number one,

Speaker 7 I'm not a mason, but number two, that's just the union way of doing things, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just fix it long enough that you get to come back.

Speaker 2 Keep coming back to mix it.

Speaker 8 What's up, Honk, Big Cat PFT, and text friend of Kenny Pickett?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I pressure, wash, and detail heavy equipment down in Plant City, Florida. This includes excavators, back hose, skid steers, front-end loaders, etc.
Have a quick question for Jerry.

Speaker 8 Can you explain to these boys about how the difference between an early morning dart versus a five o'clock dart? Interested to hear how six hit up north.

Speaker 2 RIP layer. I think it's six.

Speaker 2 So in your case, it's a vape, yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, your first hit of the day is the best of the day, you know?

Speaker 7 If you're getting up early, you know, you you get that fucking blood rush to your head. Yeah.
Get a little lightheaded.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but five o'clock's like the first hit of the rest of your night.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 7 I don't like that. I'd rather the morning hit.

Speaker 5 Right. So

Speaker 1 when you would wake up, what time would you have to wake up?

Speaker 7 5.40, 5. Yeah.
5.40.

Speaker 2 I don't really like it.

Speaker 5 I have smoked cigarettes in the morning before.

Speaker 5 It still feels disgusting to do it. Like, I need

Speaker 5 to do it. It's got to be afternoon.
After your lunch, after a big meal, that's when you can have the first one.

Speaker 2 You just don't smoke.

Speaker 7 When I used to smoke cigarettes,

Speaker 7 the best cigarette was the drive, like

Speaker 7 get up, brush your teeth, whatever, shower, get ready, and then you're driving, and then you smoke a cigarette in the car or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's the best cigarette.

Speaker 1 I could see that one.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Also, that guy's got an awesome job.

Speaker 5 He pressure washes heavy construction equipment.

Speaker 1 He should honestly make an Instagram account because

Speaker 2 those videos go viral all the time.

Speaker 5 So satisfying. Yeah.
When you see the stream hit, all the dirt comes in.

Speaker 7 All the mud and shit. It's so clean.

Speaker 5 That's actually,

Speaker 5 I'll bet your son would, that's his dream job yeah right like any two-year-old in america that's what they want to do when they grow up yes

Speaker 8 hello suit hank honest work fighter pilot pft father of two cat in jd nebraska yeah juan damian juan damian yeah i recently dropped out of college to become a plumber currently training with various guys in my company but every time i have to fix a toilet there's always a massive size dump in it that i have to take care of before i can get to fixing the toilet am i being hazed by the guys in my company is it normal behavior to expect them to treat the new guys like this, or am I just having extremely bad luck?

Speaker 7 Dude, I think it, I think, no, he's not having bad luck. That's a setup, but you have to expect that when you're like an apprentice, you know what I mean? I got shit on.

Speaker 7 I mean, I got shit on till the day I left, but like,

Speaker 7 I don't know, dude. Like, in the beginning, it's tough.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment when you were leaving where they were like, hey, Jerry? Oh, people cried, bro. Yeah, be like, hey, you know, all that shit we gave you.
We actually really like you.

Speaker 1 That's my favorite type of like male friendship where like you bust balls for so long and then there's that one moment where you're like, I actually love you, you, man.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so listen, my stay with the company was for like four and a half years, and like, dude, was I the best worker?

Speaker 2 Hell no, no, not even close, not even close to the bus, not even top 100.

Speaker 7 Did I stay and scam overtime every day?

Speaker 2 Yes, 100%, but you were working hard, but I was working hard, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Like the first like two years, the first two years, they didn't let me touch anything because they thought I was crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's kind of like here,

Speaker 2 a little bit. Yeah, you showed them.

Speaker 7 But when I left, there was this guy who

Speaker 7 always wanted me on his crew. You know, like when you're a foreman there, you get to, you know, you're kind of pick of who you want.
But so he always wanted me on his crew. His name was Hank.

Speaker 7 And classic popular. He was an old man.
He was fucking 65, 66 years old. And he would just sit on a bucket all day.
And the day I left, he was fucking, he was emotional, bro.

Speaker 2 You know why?

Speaker 5 Because you're a good dude to have on a crew.

Speaker 7 Because I'm sure that when it comes to, if you have something that has to be done for the the job yes like it'll the job will be complete oh for sure it'll take care of it but also you know how to keep your mouth shut you know how to kind of like go along yes make sure that everybody's making their money I always had for breakfast he have corn muffin and a black coffee every day I always got him his breakfast and because you know those are the guys who take care of you on your paychecks you know what I mean right and friggin you know up until when I left he's like dude like

Speaker 7 I worked with that guy for like three years straight. You see those guys more than your family.
You know what I mean? And like he was so emotional, bro. He's crying.

Speaker 7 He's like, I looked at you like a son. You know, I can't believe you're going.
I say, you know, it is what it is. You know, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's my life.

Speaker 1 And I know Juan Damien was always meant for me. Yeah,

Speaker 7 yeah, I missed that guy, Hank.

Speaker 1 I mean, you could call him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I could call him.

Speaker 8 All right, last one. Two-part question: What is the worst job you've ever done, and have you ever either walked off a job or quit in the middle of the day?

Speaker 7 Good question. Worst job I ever had

Speaker 7 was I I worked for this, um

Speaker 7 I worked for this company like an hour and 20 minutes from my house when I first when I first got home from uh Arizona. Friggin' I only worked there for like a week.

Speaker 7 It was like an hour and a half away in Mount Laurel or something like that, New Jersey. I forget.
The guy was like a dickhead though. Like it was a miserable job.
But I never walked out of a job. No.

Speaker 7 I never did. The best job I ever had, I'll say this, the best job I ever had was when I bagged groceries at the Safeway supermarket.

Speaker 1 I heard you saying that, that you miss some days at Barstool, you're like, I wish I was just back at Safeway.

Speaker 8 You trade it all to be back at Safeway.

Speaker 7 I don't think I would trade it all to be back at Safeway, but that was one of the things. Why?

Speaker 7 You know, I just, because I was like, like, I feel like that was the start of my whole career.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 You know? Right. So it's more time and place, not the actual bagging of the groceries, but like where you were.

Speaker 7 But it was funny because I love like old people's shit, you know what I mean? Like I love like them getting mad when you put your fucking shit in the wrong bag. They're hilarious to me.

Speaker 5 Like put the heavy stuff at the bottom, please.

Speaker 2 So you just fuck with old people.

Speaker 1 That's why you loved it.

Speaker 7 Dude, my girlfriend, something happened and she had to go and for a checkup.

Speaker 7 But we went to the emergency room because she was having pain in her stomach. So we go to this emergency room.

Speaker 7 couple miles away from the house and I'm sitting there and this guy walks in in a wheelchair.

Speaker 7 A tow truck driver ran over his foot but this guy walked in. He was like a regular there.
So all the people knew him.

Speaker 5 Was it like a bar that you go into?

Speaker 2 That's the usual. Yes.

Speaker 2 All right, couple x-rays.

Speaker 7 This guy, I got the clip I got to send it to you guys. It is hilarious.
It is so funny. This guy's motherfucking the people left and right.

Speaker 5 I think I saw you put that on Twitter.

Speaker 2 I see characters out there.

Speaker 7 Dude, I love old people like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So when you were bagging groceries, would you secretly judge people for what they were buying?

Speaker 7 Not really, no. Not really.
I mean, there's some weird people out there, you know. Like, I don't know.
I never judge people, though. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not a judger.

Speaker 1 Um, this has been great, Jerry. Yeah, it's been appreciated.
Uh, numbers. Do you want to do numbers? You want to guess a number?

Speaker 7 208.

Speaker 2 Eight? Okay. Nine.

Speaker 1 Is eight. Okay.

Speaker 2 25.

Speaker 2 Eight. Thanks, Louis.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're not going to do 10.

Speaker 2 I'll do eight. I'll do ten.
All right.

Speaker 6 For Mitch. I'll do

Speaker 2 three

Speaker 2 for nine.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got eight, nine, and ten.

Speaker 2 And memes got four.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 look at that. Long jam.

Speaker 1 We got to do it again. Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Oh, I've never seen that. That was like four balls, I guess, though.

Speaker 2 It doesn't count.

Speaker 12 It was close to 55.

Speaker 2 Double nickel.

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a first timer.

Speaker 2 I fucking guessed that.

Speaker 1 I know that because I've guessed it so many times.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 14 So we have 6, 20, 26, 27, 29, 51, 78, 88.

Speaker 2 Still on the 20s. Okay.
Scoring yammy.

Speaker 1 I've guessed 22 probably more than any other number.

Speaker 2 I've never win that. Nothing.
It just literally

Speaker 2 half the time we got. I got it.
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 5 See that Hank's never gotten it. You get like a moment of excitement, and then everybody forgets about it seriously two seconds ago.

Speaker 13 It's a moment of excitement that everyone's like

Speaker 8 when it even pops up that someone else said the number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a moment of excitement that everyone's like, wait, that was your number? And then the show's over. So that's the show.

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Speaker 5 Sadly needless to say

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Speaker 5 Slowly learning what life is okay.

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Speaker 5 All the same

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