Will Compton & Taylor Lewan, Chris Paul And The Suns Are Dead, Plus Hank Sat On The Floor For Game 7

Will Compton & Taylor Lewan, Chris Paul And The Suns Are Dead, Plus Hank Sat On The Floor For Game 7

May 16, 2022 2h 11m Explicit

We start with some NBA talk and the Suns submitting one of the worst Game 7 performances of all time (also credit to the Mavs).(00:02:29-00:07:47) Hank is on zoom because he sat on the floor for Game 7 of Celtics/Bucks and we talk about his emotions and terrible fist pumps. (00:07:50-00:28:36) Who's back of the week including the Reds losing with a no hitter. (00:29:48-00:44:26) Will Compton and Taylor Lewan join the show in studio to catch up, talk about their podcast Bussin with the Boys, NFL, and tons more. (00:45:45-01:44:31) We finish with NHL talk and PFT and Jake's trip to DC on Friday night. (01:46:06-02:08:22)


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Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.
On today's Pardon My Take, we've got our good friends Taylor Luan and Will Compton in studio, the Bustin' with the Boys Boys. Great interview with them, touch everything.
We also have some conference finals set. So Hank is going to be on Zoom.

He was on the wood, on the floor for the Celtics beating the Bucs in Game 7. We're also taping this at halftime of the Mavs' sons because we're calling it.
We're calling it. It could be a historic comeback, but we are calling it.
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Now in the street there is violence We'll be right back. All on the sun, oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's a part of my take presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to part of my take presented by visible.com slash pod Get unlimited single line wireless for as low as $25 a month when you go to visible.com slash pod.
Get unlimited single wire line wireless for as low as $25 a month. When you go to visible.com slash pod today is Monday, May 16th and the sons are dead.
The Mavericks are alive. The Celtics are alive and the bucks are dead.
All right. So little, little caveat here.
We are taping this at the halftime. Right now, the score is Luka Doncic, 27.
The Phoenix Suns, 27. Chris Paul won.
It's actually so much funnier that Chris Paul only has one point than if he had zero points at halftime. Yes, one point is hard to do.
Listen, PFT, we know Ball. He's downloading the information.
Second half, he's going to be going off. He's plugged in.
He's going to figure out. He's just updating it right now.
He's updating the code back in the locker room. When he comes out, it's over for the Mavs.
But we decided to do this at halftime because either, one, we look smart by saying the Suns are deader than dead and this is an embarrassing performance, Game 7 at home. Or we will get to relive this as the dumbest thing we've ever done when they come back and have the craziest victory of all time.
I don't think it's that dumb. I mean, let's say that Chris Paul hypothetically quadruples his output from the first half.
And he ends up with five points on the game total.

Yeah, they're done.

These sons are cooked.

The sun has expired.

The suns, to paraphrase my good friend Meek Mill,

the suns is a disgrace.

They're a disgrace.

I'm going to call it right now.

I'm going to use a hard D-bomb.

A disgrace.

What's that, Hank?

A fraud. I love Meek Mill.

Okay, so here's what we'll do.

Let's talk Celtics first,

then we'll revisit after we watch the first five minutes of the third quarter.

But the Suns are done.

They're cooked.

I've never seen – and credit to the Mavs, by the way.

The Mavs came out with great energy.

Spencer Dinwiddie was just hitting every shot.

I do think it's a combo of the Mavs playing great, but also the Suns forgetting how to touch a basketball.

The way that they're playing basketball right now is very strange. It's real strange.
It's like Chris Paul, he tries to run a pick and roll, dribbles into a double team, kicks it out directly backwards to Jay Crowder and hopes that Jay Crowder just fills it up. That's what their game plan is right now.
Shocking, it's not working. Luka Doncic is straight up tearing them limb from limb.
Crossing over everyone. And he's doing the smug little Luka smirksirks i kind of love it i don't think anybody has a more condescending smirk besides hank lockwood yes then luka donjic does like he's he's boxing out on free throws and like winking at the foul shooter yeah they're shooting yes it's it's very disrespectful what he's doing uh our good friend sam schwarzen actually pointed out that spencer dinwiddie has been playing like a fucking maniac since Bitcoin crashed.
And his entire contract got converted into crypto this year. So he's out there.
He knows he has to get another big contract. He's really in trouble right now.
Yeah, he's got to try to get one max deal over his career. The Suns are playing like they have Chris Paul and four James Hardens in a game seven.
That's how they're playing right now. right wait but what's the conversion rate of a playoff Chris Paul to a playoff James Harden because I feel like that's like Stanley Nichols to shoot yeah well and it's also a Chris Paul that was up 2-0 in a series and I think this would be now the fifth time and and I know there's injuries in there and everything and there's all these different but I think it would be the fifth time a Chris Paul led team had was had was up to own a series and ended up losing that series i think we need to actually take a step back and rewind through history go back to when the chris paul to the lakers trade didn't happen because david stern nixed it i think david stern accurately knew like hey the league's better when the lakers are winning championships yes i'm not going to let this trade go through just because i know that they'll never win a ring when Chris Paul's on the team.
I think it wasn't a matter of making a super team that made him step in and put the kibosh on. I think he actually saved the NBA.
A triumph for guys like us who just live on narratives, and we don't want to give up narratives because they're fun. And look, we know Chris Paul's good, but is he? Yeah.
That's the question that should lead all debate shows on Monday. Chris Paul is literally the best NBA player of all time.
That has sucked. We actually were debating whether we could call Rosillo tonight.
I don't think we can. I think this is going to be a fracture in our relationship for a while.
I think we've got to wait a couple weeks at least. I think we're going to have to do – I think I'm going to have to have another kid, and we're going to have gonna have to have another life episode and like sit down and just be like uh here's a tip don't get too committed to one player who's 37 years old and chokes in the playoffs all the time i think i might have to go adopt a child to save our relationship with him i'll name him chris and i'll get i'll get ryan to help me raise him yeah yeah ryan would be like oh that's my son's name too is Great.
Is Ryan – is he a Celtics fan? Yes. So that's probably – we'll have to wait until after the Celtics get to the finals and just let him talk about how great his Celtics are.
Yes, but this is – it's going to be tough. We'll be touching goal for a while.
We'll try to have him on at some point in the rest of the playoffs. But this will be a – like I'll text him in a few days being like, hey, that'll be it.
Like just a hey gonna text him tonight no I already texted him I texted him in the second quarter I was like hey chin up dude he's just he's just he's just getting ready to go off um I was like long game but all right let's talk about the game that is final the Celtics beat the Bucs Hank was there on the wood uh the The Bucs, you know, incredible series, incredible series, goes seven. The Bucs decided to galaxy brain game seven saying, let's just leave Grant Williams open, who's a 40% shooter from three.
He's not a bad, he's a good shooter from three. They left him open all day.
He tied the record for most threes in a game seven with seven. That was wild.
Hank, why don't you tell us? I'll let you just go wherever you want to go with your spaz celebrations. Just go off.
We can get into the spaz celebrations. It was an unbelievable experience.
Great hospitality shown by the Celtics. Sitting courtside, obviously, it was wild.
Wild sitting there. Grant Williams.
But it was one of those things where they left him wide open, and every time, they weren't bad shots. It was like, he has to be shooting these.
He's missing them, but he just needs to keep shooting them because he's wide open. They're not guarding him.
Yeah, so he attempted 18 threes in this game. But none of them were bad shots.
They were all relatively wide open. There's only one player that's ever attempted more threes in a playoff game.
Any guesses? James Harden. Russell Westbrook.
He's got to shoot. On a night that he put up 43 total shots, and they still lost.
That was the record. It still stands, but only by one.
I think he had 19 attempts. It was a clinic.
It was the Grant Williams game. You have to ask yourself, did Hank's presence at courtside, like when LeBron plays so well because Drake's there watching him, was Grant like, you know what, I'm Team Hank, I gotta put it on a show for my boy.
Yeah, I was in these guys' ears. Marcus Smart came over afterwards.
We were sitting next to his agent, came over, took a picture. Great guy.
I got a question about that. I got a question about that.
There's a picture. You can find it online.
Hank and David. Marcus Smart's Instagram posted it.
No big deal. Marcus Smart posted it.
It's all right. Dave did point out on the Twitter that he said that you should take your shirts off.
What happened there? Because I'll tell you one thing. That picture would be 10 billion times funnier if you both had your shirts off as well.
Oh, easily. I would have, and I could have shown the six pack.
He said that after the fact. That was like, that was a post mostly comment.
That wasn't. Got it.
Like he said it. I was like, yeah, we should have.
That would have been hilarious. But it wasn't.
Okay. It was kind of a spur of the moment thing.
The celebrations. Obviously, you know, when you're in the wood, like, you know, you guys know how it is.
We do streams. People see you celebrating.
Yeah, when you're in the wood. That was as raw emotion as you could possibly have.
It wasn't thought about. I wasn't like, I'm going to pump my fist.
It was just excitement leaving my body simultaneously through both of my hands. I have no problem with it, though.
I think it was beautiful to watch. I know that you're self-conscious about it, but I don't think that you should be.
I'm not. No, you're definitely not.
You're so triggered by it. You tweeted it after.
Can I tell you, actually? You tweeted it at me. Well, yeah, because it was shocking.
I mean, dude, remember when PFT clapped? You describe it like I described it. You describe it for the listeners.
You tried to do, and you can find it. We'll put it in the YouTube.
Hank tried to do a double fist pump and kind of like a double flail kick. Someone actually nailed it.
You look like one of Balmer's cronies when they were doing the get on your feet dance. And that's doing Windows 97 was was getting introduced that's the old donald trump

yeah the mexican soccer coach yeah it was like you lost all control of your body and um can i tell

you i did the call can i tell you that this is going to hurt you because the call came from

within the house when i when i when i keyed in on you celebrating i got tipped off to it by by a

close associate sometime in the second quarter who memes nope memes? Nope. Stanford Steve texted me.
He was like, we got to work on Hank's fist pumps. And I was like, what? It's fine.
And then I started watching. I was like, what is he doing? He's trying to pull off a double fist pump? That's never been done before.
Hank, I know you're thinking to yourself probably, man, I looked like such a nerd. I'm so embarrassed.
What a bad visual for me. I wish no one had ever seen this.
But, heck, I don't have a problem with it. I think that you're – Man in the arena.
Man in the wood arena. Man in the wood.
You're supposed to look like an absolute freak when you're sitting courtside. I would be concerned if you didn't celebrate like a complete and total dork.
Like, that tells me that you're a real fan. Yeah, and also – It was kind of works too because they had like if you were someone who is watching and you had no idea what barstool was they have team hank on the jumbotron in the second quarter then you spazzing out they're like this this guy's got like two weeks to live it's great he's enjoying the hell out of his time yeah listen i just i like i think i said it on show the other day.
I'm in denial about that part of it because I was thinking about it. I'm like, it's just ridiculous that people are just being like Team Hank for no fucking reason.
They're asking, why are they saying this? I'm like, I don't really know how to explain it, and I'm just not going to. I'm just going to block that part out of it and just focus on the good parts.
Focus on, listen, yeah, you make fun of my celebration, which was perfectly normal, but if that's the price I have to pay for a victory in game seven on the wood, I'll do it all day. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is in reality, like you've been on a very hot streak recently.
So us sitting on our couch making fun of your celebration, I think we deserve this. We deserve it.
We got to take. Otherwise, we wouldn't be.
You're reaching a a little bit but that's fine. Oh it was not a reach dude.
You jumped out of the screen. You were I thought you were gonna collapse.
Sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's heaven on earth.
You can't even clap. Love like you've never won before.
Dance like no one's watching. I actually said that when I came in.
You literally can't even clap. I've been working on my claps.
My claps are totally fine now but it took some bad film for me to improve on it so it was a good thing in fact i think i thank god every morning that i wake up that that bad visual me clapping like i don't know like my my hands were butterfly wings i'm glad that came out there because i got to improve on it i got to watch my own film you should look at this as a learning what would tom brady say stop yeah he probably said like that's true i learn more from my mistakes my mistakes than I do from my accomplishments. So you've got a lot to learn today.
Yeah. No more double fist pumps.
And again, Hank, you're on a hot streak. You just got to sit on the wood to watch your team win a game seven where they were like, that had to have been one of the best sporting events you've been to because it was never in doubt.
It basically, the game, I don't want to say it turned but when when Marcus Smart stole the ball from Giannis with like a second left in the second quarter and then they called the the shooting three from half court it was like from that moment on it was the Celtics romp Celtics played like absolute dirt in the first quarter and the fact that they made it out of the first half up by five that's a hundred percent true where it's like they played really, really bad and won the half by five points. Like if they just played decent, they're going to win.
And that's what they did. They dominated.
I did have a lot of, Giannis was missing. He missed like five layups in the second quarter.
He did. I had a lot of NBA wide open layup in that, in the first, in the first half, it did seem like there were some, there were some very sketchy calls going on..
They were trying to work against the Celtics. I would agree with somebody that if you're rooting for Boston, you were watching that first half, it seemed more than a little fishy.
But then at some point in the second half, it almost felt like the refs figured out, like, well, we can't keep this one close. It's just not able to happen.
And it was essentially the Bucs needed just anyone to step up for them and they just didn't have anyone who stepped up. You know what's so weird is I was looking at it.
Giannis I don't think anyone would argue at this point Giannis is the best player in the world. The series he put on was incredible.
He had like a triple-double in the first quarter he had 200 basically in seven games he had 237 points 103 rebounds and 50 assists like that's just stupid so I don't think anyone would argue that it wasn't like they they acquitted themselves as as well as a defending champ could do and I'm not even gonna get in the Chris Middleton injury because you can't talk about like what, what are you going to do? Like, he's injured. Like, what are you going to say?

It's just crazy to think of, like, how much he did and how much he just needed one guy, one or two guys, which actually brings me to a point, Hank.

Is the Brotherhood dead?

Because Grayson Allen was so bad, he had such big, like, I shouldn't be here energy.

And he airballed the three in the second quarter, and you were up his ass. I was watching.
You were up his ass. So is the Brotherhood dead? Is the Duke Brotherhood dead? I mean, Brotherhood's forever, but it's like, you know, when you change – it's only when you're wearing the jersey.
Let's be honest. It's only when you're wearing the jersey.
If you're wearing the jersey, it's Brotherhood, but if you're wearing the opposing team's jersey and I'm on the wood and you airball it i'm gonna let you hear did you find him after the game to try to do a handshake line with him no no you were giving them business they walked right off i mean i don't yeah i guess i i like people were sending me a lot of videos i i was vocal it was one of those things it's like you know when you're on the wood you're involved in the game you're basically like the sixth man can we talk real quick uh other pieces important pieces of the game um piss break in the first quarter what happened there uh i got pretty pretty drunk last night woke up today had had a couple drinks in the morning so i was definitely like my bladder was was i needed to go yeah i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't uh it took me a little while to get into you know game mode i had to really play play my way into it it was a glaring absence on the sideline, though. It stuck out like a sore thumb.
It was one of those things where I was, you know, listen, I sat down in the seats, and in my head, similar to the jail shit story that people always chirped me for, I was like, I have to pee, but I'm going to wait until the end of the first half. But I was so uncomfortable that I was like, it's going to be awkward.

I'm probably going to get sure for it, but I'm going to be 10 times more comfortable once I'm finished.

It had to be done.

By the way, quick update.

The Mavericks are now up 41 points.

Holy shit.

41 points.

I think we made the right choice.

The Suns is a disgrace.

Can they actually throw in the white towel?

Can the Suns actually just quit? I'm telling you, you guys are going are gonna bonk me for it but they needed aj titties at halftime yes we are gonna she she yeah both things can be true yeah i mean it's gonna be true i'm i'm i'm not afraid of being bonked for telling the truth and call me horny if you must but they need to get sucked off yeah this is this is horrific i don't know what you let's see let's just get a quick update on the Chris Paul stat line. I think he's still got one point.
He's got three points. Oh, three points.
All right. Three points, two assists, one rebound.
Stat stuffer. He's got to be doing a bit, right? I think Giannis had that stat line 45 seconds into the game today.
It's ridiculous what Chris Paul is doing right now. You've got Murr, Q, and Sal backstage, like, whispering into earphones,

being like, okay, now throw the ball off JaVale McGee's knee out of bounds.

It also, I mean, Bob Ryan hates this NBA,

but it does prove that, like, DeAndre Ayton has also been bad,

and DeAndre Ayton is, you have to have five guys that can play at the three-point line in a series. You know what I mean? You can't play with a center.
I'm offended. I'm offended.
And going into this game, I texted the group chat this, trying to get what the vibes were. I was betting on the Suns, and I said, I'm also betting the over on Chris Paul points at 17 and a half.
And I was doing it mostly so that I would be saving myself either way. So one, if he did get the over, boom, my bet hits.

I'm happy about that.

If he gets the under, then it really fuels.

It gets me more amped up about my anti-Chris Paul stance.

Right.

And so it did the trick.

I'm literally angry at Chris Paul right now.

It is.

It's nuts.

This is a shocking, shocking game.

Game seven at home, and you're down 39 now. They just cut the lead.
They're on a 2-0 run. You never hear somebody say they laid an egg in basketball.
It's more of a football term. Chris Paul is laying an egg right now.
Do you blow up the Suns? You got to. I don't know.
This is a loss that will haunt you. I wonder what Brian Cox would say about whether or not you could actually do that.
Can I do a quick Monday reading? Billy Football just tweeted this 16 seconds ago. He said, suns, question mark, more like moons because they're playing ass out terrible.
That's good, Billy. I like that.
That was it. Is the opposite of the sun the moon, though? I don't think so.
100%. No, but for us.
The moon ass out. Yeah, I like it.
In terms of the universe, what is the opposite of the sun? A black hole. Yeah.
Black hole sun. This is a singularity.
Yeah. Hank, we now need to turn our attention.
By the way, one last thing about Grant Williams. I'll tell you what.
They're not playing like Jupiter. Shit, I fucked that fucked that up.
Rewind. Tell you what, Uranus.
Tell you what, big cat, they're not playing like Saturn. Nice.
Because they got no rings. Nice.
Just pretend I didn't fuck that up. Does Jupiter have rings? Huh? Jupiter has moons? I think Jupiter has maybe a small ring.
A technical ring. Like a bubble ring.
Like, yeah. They've got the Mickey Mouse.

The Mickey Mouse.

Right, right, right.

Drop some Jupiter.

Great song.

Tell me to fall from a shooting star.

We should do Mount Rushmore Planets.

We should have a guy.

By the way, I have a Mount Rushmore idea that popped in my head.

Now we're getting just sideways.

I have wrote down a couple too.

Well, no, I have an idea for how we should do Mount Rushmore this year. boy yeah i think we should go i think we should go teams because billy and jake are sitting next to each other we can have the producer team and me and pft team up and we go i love that way there's three pick three three teams pick each time but it's teams i like that i think it would be i think it'd be a nice variation for us.
And we should give ourselves names and jerseys.

And jerseys and sell shirts.

I'm just going to throw it out there.

You guys are obviously the two most valuable people.

What happens when you guys are just getting run out of the building?

I don't know, Hank.

We haven't been on a jumbotron recently.

Are we a super team?

Are you guys?

No, I'm worried about the podcast.

Are Big Cat and me bad for Mount Rushmore?

No, you guys being bad.

I think it would be good.

You guys are going to be so bad that there's going to be like,

Thank you. Are you guys – No, I'm worried about the podcast.
Are Big Cat and me bad for Mount Rushmore? No, you guys being bad. I think it would be good.

You guys are going to be so bad that you're going to like –

there's going to be like dissension between you two.

I don't think we're going to be bad.

I think we're actually going to find out very quickly

that we are just dominant left and right.

I mean, we've seen Jake and Billy together.

That team doesn't work whatsoever.

Team Hubba was a wagon.

Team Hubba was a wagon. They won the pizza the pizza draft easy don't never forget the pizza draft um that that was actually that was the birth of the team hank movement was was the pizza draft double all i was never forget it goes down in his worst place then uh all right let's let's move on gone from those days to to the more important pressing uh topic now and we're going to talk nhl after the bus and with the boys so we're gonna do all hockey talk then uh hank you now have to face your greatest foe of your life it's the only person who can just beat you left and right up and down and there's nothing you can do about he's your kryptonite it's jake marsh so what what what what are your thoughts going into this uh eastern conference final now with jake marsh looking at you across the way and just smiling and being like i hope we just have a good time yeah i mean this is bubble revenge my thoughts honestly and this is going to make it worse it's going to be a colder take if they end up losing but i do think the celtics are a better team like I think this should be a five- or six-game series win.
Oh, wow. And I just – heat culture, all that shit, but that was – even the bubble.
The Celtics team is a much different team than they were in the bubble. They're way better.
The Heat are basically the same, if not worse. Yes.
So I feel – oh, nice. I feel extremely confident about this game, about this series.
Yeah, I would not feel confident ever going up against Jake Marsh because he's a winner. He'll smile.
He'll laugh. He'll apologize for beating you as he slits your throat.
It's just so much worse losing to Jake at anything. And I would be very, very afraid if I were you.
I would definitely not be making declarations. It sounds like you're declaring a possible whomping.
You said five or six games. That's a potential whomping.
That is a potential whomping. I also would just like to say, you know, it's just such a shame, such a shame that it's not the Sixers.
Like if they were as good as they claim to be all year, everyone was talking all that shit, and they were in the Eastern Conference Finals, and this was Boston versus Philadelphia for a chance to go to the finals, it'd be unbelievable. By the way not to to just rip the the wound the fresh gaping wound that the sixers have but um the one little fun fact that comes out of uh emade udoka going to the eastern conference final there's now three assistant coaches the sixers had they're the new washington redskins three commanders.
They had three assistant coaches in the last seven years that have gone to a conference final. So obviously, Mike D'Antoni, he's, he, yeah, he was on the staff in 2015, 2016.
He went to the Western Conference final with the Rockets. Monty Williams, coach of the Suns, who now is laying an egg, was on the staff.
He, he went to the Conference Finals, went to the finals, and Ime Adoka now is going to the Eastern Conference Finals. So as they wrestle with Brent Brown and Doc Rivers, they had three guys who, at least two of the three guys, because you could throw out the Mike D'Antoni because I think he was there just for like almost a sabbatical year.
The other two guys are better coaches than they've had in their former coach and their current coach. But Eme is also the only African-American head coach of the Celtics to ever advance to a conference final.
Big day for Jay Williams. Huge day.
Huge for Jay Williams. Did you see that stat, by the way, Hank, that the Celtics have now been to half of the Eastern Conference finals? That's crazy.
That's disgusting. That's crazy.
Hank, do you ever just wake up in the morning and thank God that you're a Boston sports fan? Yeah, I mean, being home is like the greatest thing in the world. I love being in Boston.
It's a beautiful day. The city is alive, and it's just like I wish.
I just love it here. It's the greatest city in the world.
You must have been like Mother Teresa in a former life to get born. Team Hank.
Yeah. And then could you imagine that guy who has all that getting that triggered over a double fist pump? I'm not sure.
I think that was good. Well, that's the worst part, Big Cat, is like people say act like you've been there before.
Remember when I sprayed champagne during the Capital Stanley Cup run after they won one game in the finals and they're like act like you've been there. I'd literally never been there before.
Yeah, right.

Hank, you just said out loud,

you've been to half the Eastern Conference Finals.

You, above all, anyone else should know to act like you've been there before.

Yeah, I think that's what someone that's been there before does.

It's a perfectly normal reaction.

And now you get your double kryptonite,

because the Heat, I think, are 2-0 against the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Final,

and you have Jake Marsh, who's like a billion-0 against Henry Lockwood.

Yeah, I mean, I'm excited. I'm ready.

I think it are 2-0 against the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Final. And you have Jake Marsh, who's like a billion-0 against Henry Lockwood.
Yeah, I mean, I'm excited. I'm ready.
I think if they still won in Miami, then they'll win the series. We'll talk a little bit more about the road trip that Jake and I went on down to D.C.
But this is directly relevant to you here, Hank. Jake, at one point, looked at me and he was like, you know, now that you're in sports, the wins mean a little bit less to you when your team does well as he's beating me in the hockey game.
So he knows that. I don't remember saying that.
You said something along those lines where you were like, it's not as meaningful now that you're in the sports media world. Oh, about myself?

Yes.

Oh, yes.

I thought you said I was saying that about you.

No, not about you.

Yeah, so you're doing it again right now.

Yeah, you said. No, I was just confused.

I was confused.

No, I said, like, on what I want to do in my long-term career,

like, you have to become more neutral.

Like, obviously, I'm always going to rep my teams,

but living and dying and.

You could care less that you just destroyed PFT's will to live. Exactly.
No, that's the message loud and clear. The biggest alpha in the office.
Yep. That's a fact.
That's a fact. Okay, anything else? I mean, the Suns game is officially – I mean, it's been over, but it's as dead as a team.
We'd have to look back in history, like, what team has laid this type of egg in Game 7? At home, it's shocking. It's absolutely shocking.
Chris Paul, still three points. The biggest egg possible.
It's crazy. Yeah, CP3.
Do you think he's hurt? Should we say he's hurt? I think Chris Paul's too healthy. I think that's probably the issue right now.
His body doesn't know how to react right now because it's like wait my left wrist should be hurting right now yeah this might be i might have to watch this press conference afterwards it hasn't i don't i'm not a big press conference watcher unless it's like lebron losing in an epic fashion still hasn't done his q a yeah he still hasn't done his q a uh also just spent all friday the 13th watching scary movies and uh there there's our LeBron bingo board for everyone keeping score at home. When your home system or appliance breaks down, American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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Who's back of the week? Henry. Team Hank is back.
Go ahead, Team Hank. Yeah, Team Hank is back.
He might have not got a who's back. Game 7 hockey, overtimes.
Yeah. Pittsburgh, congratulations.
I'm calling it right now for the Penguins. Wow, how dare you.
That's your who's back? Well, it's not an overtime yet game's still going this is this is some good podcast lacrosse is back oh there it is back sport of the future lacrosse is back can the sport of the future be back yeah i mean it's that time of year it's like whenever the season's starting the pll starting soon the uh college's in the championship. Didn't we pick up some guy in the draft?

Yeah, the Waterdogs actually had a really good draft.

What's our grade?

I give us an A+.

Okay, cool.

What about the Whipsnakes?

Whipsnakes, I mean, as one of the reigning champions

in the first inaugural years of the league,

they didn't have that good of picks.

But I think the Redwoods are still the team to beat.

Just give me a grade, Billy.

I just need a draft grade. Give them a B- for the Whipsnakes.
Okay. Anyone get an F? Atlas? Chrome.
Chrome. Chrome.
I knew you were going to say Chrome. Can we put out a list of our draft grades memes? Yes.
All right, thank you. Just give everybody else a C.
Yeah. Good job, Hank, with your who's back.
Lacrosse is back. Thank you.
PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Danny Woodhead.
Yes. My guy, Danny Woodhead.
Our guy, Danny Woodhead. One of the OG part of my take recurring guests.
Maybe the best athlete that we've ever had on this show. He is very close to qualifying for the U.S.
Open in golf. Yeah.
Very close. Yes.
He came in, I think, second or third place in the second final qualifying tournament last weekend. So if he finishes, I think it's like top five at the next tournament that he's in.
He's in the U.S. Open.
Danny Woodhead's going to be playing the U.S. Open.
It's crazy. I have full confidence in Danny, and I sent him a congratulatory note afterwards.
I was like, hey man, this is super impressive. He told me, this is honestly the best athletic thing that I've ever done in my life.
He's better than Tony Romo at golf. Right.
And it is kind of crazy to think about how many people play golf. I mean, obviously making the NFL is insane, but he's an exceptional athlete.
And then to transition and be this good at golf, it's fucking nuts, man. Yeah, you see the, I think it was a birdie putt on 17 that he had.
Had an all-time walk-off celebration on it. Walked it in like Tiger Woods.
Yeah, did a little ass slap. Yeah, Danny is a legit golfer.
I sometimes do this, but I tweeted without thinking. I said that if he makes the cut at the U.S.
Open, I will cut every hair off my body. Because the original bet was I was going to wait to cut my hair, my long hair, until danny woodhead won a super bowl your patriots couldn't get done for him hank uh so unfortunately that never happened but if he makes a cut every hair except for my eyebrows is coming off the eyebrows eyebrows stay on soft why is that soft billy real men take their eyebrows off my eyebrows are facts that's true you actually if if you every hair, you've got to do every hair.
That's the best part of my body. That's a great point by Billy.
Yeah, no, it is. I love my eyebrows.
Everyone knows I've got great eyebrows. Just draw them on.
Draw them on for a little... No.
Eyebrows stay. Eyelashes come off.
I'll take the eyelashes. I'll cut the eyelashes, but not the eyebrows.
That would be freaky. Do those go back? Suns are down 42 going into the 40.
It's major week, by the way, for golf. Oh, yeah.
Yes. In Tulsa.
In Oklahoma. PGA Championship.
I saw some of the beer prices that they have. Oh, yeah.
People were freaking out about it. It's going to be tough.
There are going to be a lot of angry Oklahomans out there. Yeah.
It's like $18 for a beer. Coors Light would never do that to you.
Bring in a fucking flask. Sneak a flask.
Yeah, it's not that hard. Okay, my Who's Back of the Week is the Cincinnati Reds.
For the sixth time in MLB history, they had a no-hitter, and they lost. Not to be the fact-check guy.
Oh, I know that they didn't technically pitch the ninth. But still, it's crazy.
It's funny watching all the Big J's out there carefully phrasing it. They allowed no hits.
Right. And they lost.
Because they didn't pitch the bottom of the ninth because they lost. But all time, like, if the Reds season couldn't get worse, you have this happen, where in the eighth inning they had three consecutive walks and then a fielder's choice double play that they weren't able to – if they had gotten the double play, it would have stayed scoreless uh but they weren't able to complete the double play so uh they lost one to nothing and gave up no hits it's so perfect that it happened to the pirates too i know like the unstoppable force meets the immovable object yes that's the only team that this could possibly happen yes and my other who's back is my voice i got my voice back i slept and i got my voice back so thanks to everyone who was like i want to kill myself i want my voice to be back is my voice.
I got my voice back. I slept and I got my voice back.
So thanks to everyone who was like, I want to kill myself. I want my voice.
I want my voice to be back so bad that I actually made a doctor's appointment. How do you like that? I hope I fucking have cancer.
So everyone who, who says shit to me that can just shove it back in their face. You don't mean that.
No, but it would, I would dunk on all that. Knock on some wood.
I'd pull up all the fucking tweets of people being like, I can't stand your voice. And I'd be like, fuck you, dude.
Knock on that wood. I got a real problem.
No, but I'm back. Billy's doing a great job pretending that he hopes that you don't have cancer.
Yes, thank you, Billy. Billy's like, all right, so that seat, I'll probably lower it a little because he sits too high.
It's right next to the beer fridge, which is sick. Like low-key, that's the seat that I want.
But I'm going to see a doctor and see what I can do to not lose my voice all the time so but i am back right now felt good slept felt good felt feels good to have my voice back thank you for everyone who's actually concerned not people who are just bitching i was never concerned all right i appreciate that but yeah no there were some people that got me triggered because it's like you don't think i care you think i'm just it would be one thing if i was like partying and like smoking cigs and partying all the time and had boys. That would be a lot cooler reason.
I just lost my voice because I don't sleep, and we work a million hours. Oh, these Suns fans are so sad.
Get ready to get tagged, PFT. As cool as they were when we watched them in the finals, they are very sad now.
The funniest guy in that building right now is the dude that's dressed in the neon orange suit that also put bronzer all over his body. He went just, he went to the game as a son.
Yeah. Like dressed up as a son.
And he looks bad. He looks bad right now.
This is one of those moments we're watching live as they go through sad sons fans. That lady's asleep.
I would absolutely leave. I don't think there's any shame in leaving because guess what? If your team on the court quits, you can quit too.
At least you still have Kyler Murray. Yeah.
And you have September and October. Yeah.
At least you have DeAndre Hopkins is coming back for you guys this year. There we go.
That'll be nice. That'll be really nice.
Yeah. Big free agent pickup.
Billy. My who's back is Trash Pandas at the Arkansas versus Vanderbilt College baseball game.
There was a raccoon running through the stands, one brave gentleman by the name of Grant Harmon just grabbed the raccoon and just held it up for the whole crowd to see. It was a pretty awesome moment.
Grant is such an obvious name for somebody that would be the person to handle the raccoon. It's going to be a Grant or it's going to be a Zach.
It was reported he had no prior experience grabbing raccoons and he was bitten several times by the raccoon. Oh, Jesus.
And immediately after the game, had to go to the ER to get his first round of rabies shots, which I bring to the question, why do dogs and other animals have vaccines that are one shot for rabies, but when humans might get in contact with rabies, they had to take like six rounds of shots. You've got to get another booster.
booster after that. It's conspiracy.
It's probably all Pfizer. But dogs get rabies vaccines like they get them over and over.
They get them every year. So why don't we do that? I think we have one that's just, I don't know.
Rabies is. But if a dog got bit by a raccoon, it also would have to go to the hospital.
But Billy, if you told everybody in America they had to get a yearly rabies shot, how many people do you think would follow through with that? A lot. You think so? No.
I'm pretty sure pest control guys have to get rabies shots. Stephen Colbert would have a big commercial about it.
We all have rabies vaccine. Not me, bro.
Let him put the jab in me. MMR is measles, mumps, rubella.
I thought there was something. Oh, no, is it tetanus? Yeah, tetanus.
Remember that one time I woke up with a bat in my barn? Yeah. It was like, I played roulette.
It was like, I'm either going to die of rabies in six months or I have to go to the hospital to get these shots every three months. Yeah.
But dogs get rabies vaccines every year. You do get your dog.
I think you do do that yeah but why can't they do that for humans i think it's every other year you get the new tag for your dog yeah we should actually bill you should if anybody on earth should get like a prophylactic rabies shot a preventative one just in case it should be you yeah do you think anyone's selling fake dog vaccines for rabies that'd be pretty fucked up up. Probably.
Someone's like, I don't believe in vaccinations for my dog. So there's a black market of you can get a fake tag.
For sure. Also, what's the opposite of a bad beat? A backdoor cover? Or a lucky win? Yeah.
Well, that's what's back. If you guys watched UFC on Saturday, Blakovic had an absolute backdoor cover when he was the money dog by a long shot and his opponent, Ray Kicks.
I bet on him. I was like, this dude, Jan, is going to win.
First round, he got his ass beat. He was bleeding everywhere.
Second round, Raykic just blew out his knee, and it was the craziest comeback win. It was awesome.
There was some famous guy. Maybe it was Jose Aldo who broke his leg.
Goal Rangers. Goal Rangers.
No, that's a replay. That's a replay.
That's a replay. That's a replay.
Oh, my God. You're thinking about Anderson Silva? On your back.
Maybe, yes. Who broke his leg and it was just, well, that fucking sucks if you bet on him.
Also, did you realize that every bad beat, the other side is a lucky win? Yes. That's true.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
That is true. But I was on the good side of the bad beat.
It feels good, right? For the other guy. Yeah.
Very bad beat. I don't feel that bad because it was MCL, LCL.
Those are like a couple weeks weeks what would you have felt bad acl i would it feels like a bad you would have donated your money no no i wouldn't have even mentioned it but like you can deal mcl lcl just so it's not that just walk it off billy winning money because the guy like blew out his knee and he's like i can't take this money this is blood money't have this. Also, my last who's back is Ben Mintz.
Ben Mintz is back. Literally in the city of New York.
Yeah, he's back. I can't wait to go home.
For how long? I don't know, but the tour is over. I can't wait to go home.
Three days. I can't wait to go back.
I think I'm going to give him a tapeworm. I think that's how we're going to get him.
Everyone tune in to the Dozen Trivia. I think it starts next week.
Yeah, we're taping the episodes this week throughout the office. But Jeff D.
Lowe, who most of you probably know, sent an email to everyone telling him what their schedule was, which he had already done. And when I came in the office tonight, he's like, yeah, that was just an email for Ben Mintz because he texted me saying, what time's my game on Monday night? And he's like, your game is literally the first game at 10 a.m so who's back the week ben mitts me and hank playing each other round one there we go yeah it's gonna be fun talk about rattled pft is rattled how am i rattled you're trying to figure out who my third third teammate is i know who your third teammate is on a scale of one fist pump to two how rattled uh well that's normal that'd be perfectly normal scale but he's very rattled.
Two fist pumps. Two fist pumps.
Not rattled. Got it.
No, two fist pumps. And you don't know who it is.
Okay, Jake, your who's back of the week. My who's back is a potential who's back, and it's Drew Brees.
He hinted that he could be returning to football. He could go back to NBC.
He could be focusing on business and philanthropy. This is great.
This is classic Jake this is classic Jake training for pickleball just burying golf you're burying the story coaching his kids what that he's out on NBC yeah because he sucked at his job but I don't think anyone expected him to hint that usually when someone hints that they're coming back to play they're probably gonna come I think he's probably embarrassed and he's like shit I gotta figure out what to do he thought that he was going to be Chris Collinsworth next year. And so they're like, well, we already have Chris Collinsworth.
So I don't know what you're going to be doing besides exactly what you did last year, which you weren't happy with. So now he's thinking that he might come back to the NFL.
I actually, I hope that he comes back to the NFL and that he goes to the Dolphins to make up for the Dolphins organization. Sorry that we took Dante Culpepper instead of you.
Let's try to run it back. But I don't know.
If you're a Dolphins receiver, to go from a rocket arm of Tua to Drew Brees would be a tough adjustment. Yeah, like Drew Brees, he gets down there.
He might hypothetically underthrow you by 15 yards in mini camps and make, like if you're Tyreek Hill, make you wait around for seven seconds to catch a pass before you run with it. Dude, Tua got done so dirty with that clip.
How do you do that with OTAs and, like, there's – you get to decide the highlights. Somebody – You decide it.
Somebody in their media department does not like Tua very much. I'm convinced it could be one of those, like, oh, that's like that quote about um the Bengals receiver Jamar Chase yeah everyone's

like oh he's gonna stink I'm convinced yeah it was done on purpose to anon love it love it yeah also I'm going to put a future if the if the heat beat the Celtics we as a podcast have to put a future on the Dolphins yeah Jake whoa whoa Hank Hank is very confident Hank wasn't listening there You just said

Oh no

Cut that

I said if the heat beat Hank is very confident. Hank wasn't listening there.
You just said. Oh, no.

I said it.

Oh, no.

Cut that.

We'll cut that.

I said if the Heat beat the Celtics and you said when,

but if the Heat beat the Celtics,

I think we as a podcast need to put a future on the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl because Jake's destiny was to just beat everyone.

But I will say.

Jake's just running through us all.

Yeah.

I am not excited to go against Hank right now.

This is perfect.

Yeah, let it out.

Go ahead.

No, he.

Yeah.

I'm going to go against Hank right now. This is perfect.
Yeah. Let it out.
Go ahead. No.
Yeah. I'm scared of Hank right now.
Right. I think we all should be.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. He almost got me fired because I fucking tweeted that clip of him spazzing out on the wood.
I literally tweeted that clip 15 minutes later. Erica had an email in my inbox being like, what's this clip? Like, you know that you can't bash our C-suite employees.
And I was like, fuck. No, I'm just excited for the AWLs.
This is what they want. Just go for the podcast.
Hank, are you afraid of Jake? Yes. I mean, yes.
You have to be. But, like, it's one of those things where, and again, like, it'll sound worse if they lose, but I am riding height.
I do have some momentum that I don't normally have. I'm going to try and ride it.
I have more momentum than usual, so hopefully that train just runs Jake over. Okay.
Let's get to Bustin' with the boys. Great interview.
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And now here are the Bustin' with the Boys Boys boys okay we now welcome on very special guests our good good friends it is will compton is taylor luan the boys coming all the way to new york look they're doing a little handshake right now very nice so they came all the way to new york from nashville uh we were trying to plan this for a very long time it was you know a big deal because Will, well, I'll let you take the floor. Will is going to retire from the NFL and we wanted him to announce it on our show.
So go ahead, Will. This has all been planned.
That's fake news. Oh, you're playing? Playoff Willie's alive and well.
Matter of fact. Wait, you're not, dude, you said, you're like, I want to come to New York and do a big deal and we'll do Times Square.

No, that's not what I said.

So you're staying in the NFL?

Oh, absolutely.

Can I give you some advice, Will?

If you say that you're retiring, though, it's like a boxer when they say they're going to retire and stop fighting.

It just makes people want them more. Yeah, for sure.

But we have a platform that if that did happen...

Wait, but all right.

Well, we need someone's retirement.

So, Taylor, are you going to do it?

No, God.

Come on.

I'm going to retire from the NFL.

Yeah.

I'm taking my main honor.

I'll do it.

I'll retire right now.

You retire right now.

Yeah, okay.

I'm retiring from the NFL.

Okay.

Oh, shit.

I'm done.

All right.

I am too.

Big cat.

All right.

We're done.

Will?

Will?

Will?

Year 10, baby.

We're cooking.

You selfish fuck.

We had a pact, Will. We were all going to retire at the same time.
Oh, man. Head off into the sunset.
It's great to see you guys. Great to have you in the studio.
What do you think? I mean, Taylor already made fun of us. He's like, I thought this studio would be bigger.
Yeah, I didn't want to do this. I don't want to start like this.
Yeah. And I literally said in my head, when you walk in, because we've had some issues recently, and we've kind of come back from a rocky deal.
And I told myself when I walked in, hey, be nice and play nice and have fun. And here I am right before we start.
I go, oh, I thought it'd be bigger. I gave myself a pep talk this morning.
I just looked in the mirror, and I was like, you're for the boys. You're for the boys.
Just remember, you're for the boys. Even though they ripped off literally everything you've ever done with your podcast, you're for the boys.
I gave that. No, myself and now i understand that you said that to yourself but i i don't understand why you gotta lie to yourself in the mirror that's true what oh i'm not for the boys no not why don't you clear that up because i feel like a lot of people out there they they see the slogan for the boys and they're like wait what does that mean yeah yeah oh shit that's super innovative that is crazy i've never like what if for the boys what a unique i don't think those three words have ever been put together hypothetical hypothetical let's say two days from now it's saturday morning is it for the boys saturdays are always for the oh okay all right that's a barstool thing yeah are you guys also for the girls or can can boys be girls, too? Boys can be girls.
Boys can be girls. Yeah, girls can be boys.
It's 2022. Yeah, we're all girl dads, right? Come on, yeah.
So what the fuck? We got to be for the girls. Yeah.
I love women. I don't like this.
I don't like how this is starting, Will. This is exactly what Adolf Hitler did.
He just came in. He just tried to come in.
And that's what you guys are doing. We don't have a sentence.

Were you a history major?

We can't get a sentence in.

I was a general studies major.

I know a little bit about everything.

Remarkably accurate.

I got a little bit about everything.

Hitler came in.

You guys are coming in pretty strong.

And if I stop talking for a minute,

all of a sudden you're going to start talking

and I can no longer gather my thoughts.

Hey, we talked about this.

Hey, we talked about this.

There's no way Brady Hoke made you go to class.

Brady Hoke absolutely did.

And if I didn't have 6 a.m.

Can I ask a real question about Brady Hoke? Yeah, okay. Let's start the show.
This is a real question. Start the show.
When things were going bad, did anyone in the locker room like, Brady, maybe throw on a headset? That's a great point. That is a great point.
Because it's one of those. It's very similar to a fat reliever.
A fat reliever comes in, and if he shoves, everyone's like, love this guy. The minute he sucks, like Joe Blanton, when he would pitch and he'd give up runs, everyone would be like, you fat fuck.
Brady Hoke, when he doesn't have the headset on, he's like, leader of men, everything's going well. When he doesn't, it's like, dude, do you even know there's a game going on? Yeah, I think you answered the question yourself.
But I will say, when he first came in, it was right after Rich Rod got fired, and we went to the Sugar Bowl. Won the Sugar Bowl.
Kicked it. Boom.
It was amazing. And then the next year, when things were kind of going downhill a little bit, it was, like you said, at first it was, like, cute and fun, and I think that everyone's kind of looking around going, it seems a little fucked up now.
Yeah, I do. It seems like he should be probably telling us what to do.
He should listen to one of the plays. I will say he was a good coach.
I mean, he was a good guy. I think it was great to be around.
Oh, he backtracked. He backtracked.
Even better person. I do want to say he's a good coach.
I mean, he was a good guy. I think it was great to be around.
He backtracked. Even better person.
You never want to say that about a coach, by the way. You never want to be like, you know what? He was a great coach, but an even better person.
That always means that's code for he sucked as a coach. Oh, I didn't say that.
That wasn't what I said, right? He's actually the good coach part. You're just saying he's a good guy.
He's a good guy and a good coach. Yeah, he's doing great at San Diego State.
Is he back at San Diego State now? Yeah, he's the head coach at San Diego State. He's had some pretty good years.
Boom. So he's a good coach.
And he was interim coach at Tennessee. Go Vols.
So good for him. Go Vols.
And he was at Oregon for a little bit. I think he did well.
He's doing a lot better than Rich Rodriguez is doing now, and those are my two college coaches. That's true.
You know what I'm saying? That's true. Yeah, I picked the lesser.
What did you think of Rich? I thought Rich was soft. I thought Rich was deece.
Thanks, Will. I'll be honest with you.
I wasn't a huge fan of Rich. Yeah.
I don't think a lot of people are. Now we're getting somewhere.
Listen, it was one of those things like I came in, he was a little rough on me my first year and my second, I redshirted him the next year. What does that mean? What is a little rough? Because that is a serious question.
Well, I think when you're a freshman in college, especially if you redshirt, you have zero value to the team at that point. You're like, you're redshirting.
I was 254 pounds coming in. Picking up a scholarship.
Right. So, yeah, I'm taking a scholarship away.
So it was kind of like we got to weed out the week type of mentality. Mike Barless was there who was the strength coach.
He had his own TV show for a little bit. I think it was on Discovery.
And it was definitely like a let's see who's going to quit first five. So they were pretty hard on us our first year.
The next year, things just weren't going well. So I didn't get to see a good – I didn't think I ever saw Rich Rodriguez smile when he was at Michigan.
He had a great job at West Virginia, was doing well at U of A until deals happened. But I just don't think he got a fair shake at Michigan.
Because, you know, Michigan, the Big Ten is so caught up in their

downhill power offense type deal.

Wisconsin knows all about it.

Yeah.

And then we bring Rich Rodriguez in after Lloyd Carr,

and Rich Rodriguez is spreading.

He's got five guys, you know, out wide.

And we're running, like, no tight end sets.

We're running, like, ten personnel and running, like, no huddle.

So everyone in Michigan is like, what the fuck are we doing? This is ridiculous. You better win fast if you're going to do that.
Yeah, you got to win fast. If you don't win fast, then it's like, this is not my secret football.
We just didn't have the chance to do that. Denard Robinson was a huge get, but he was young and which was fired before Denard really came into his own.
Yeah. Were you on the team against Appalachian State? No, that was 2008 or 2007.
Was that still talked about? It is with any Appalachian State guy that's on our team,

like on the Titans.

There was a kid.

What was this kid's name?

Isn't that crazy?

That's like they're the greatest thing that's ever happened.

I know.

It's crazy that it always gets brought up.

It's wild.

And it is one of those things like you don't want to –

like we were playing Toledo my senior year,

and we almost lost to Toledo,

and it was one of those things like, fuck,

we almost had an App State deal happen.

Yeah.

You guys are like the example. Like for every team.
Yeah. Don't be a Michigan in that situation.
I know but how about Michigan right now though. Only hope for the Big Ten.
I mean what have you done for us lately. Exactly.
Do you guys even have like a Big Ten rivalry. We won the Big Ten.
Yeah we got donkeyed against Georgia but that doesn't mean nothing. Nebraska would have lost by six.
I'm not yet way closer. But I'm saying, guys like Big Cat and I, we needed...
Don't do this. I'm saying, okay, schools like Wisconsin and Nebraska needed Michigan to put on a better show in the playoffs.
I agree. You guys were a great representation of the Big Ten.
I was fired up. I was like, okay, Michigan, these boys got a shot.
If they come out, not flat, they got a shot, dude. And what happened? I think it embarrassed me.
I went there. Listen, I'm ride or die Big Ten.
We need to get another title soon. And it probably is going to have to be Ohio State.
Don't do that. I'm just being honest.
I'm a very honest Big Ten fan. people are like, remember last year when they did the whole COVID thing and they won the tiebreaker with Indiana and Indiana fans were going crazy? It's like, dude, we got to be in the playoff every year to stay relevant.
The Pac-12 is no longer relevant. Zero percent relevant.
Ohio State, as much as I hate them, they are the best chance every year. They are.
They are. They're consistently the best chance.
I think this year will be a huge determining factor for michigan i agree as far as like being momentum forward like you did it once yep and then that might have been a fluke people are saying not me people are saying if you do it again you agree with those people when i'm finished i'll exhale when if you can do it again if you can fucking do it one more time then it's like okay now we got something yeah now we're ripping it up and we have two teams that are relevant ohio state and michigan then we need to like i think the next in line would be a wisconsin i think i think wisconsin would probably be the next in line of those they've won the most big 10 games besides ohio state in the last decade yeah but there's that's one of those stats that big cat like just carries around with them i mean just waiting to start the first side is a white guy in the NFL. Hard-working, but low-ceiling.
Not Ohio State, Wisconsin. I feel that way.
I was going to say, what? No, no, Ohio State's not like that. My bad.
Are you a little bit embarrassed about the run-the-damn-ball t-shirts that got worn last year, and then they just got their dicks put in the dirt? Who's it? The offensive line of Michigan. Right before that game against Georgia, right?

Yeah, that was tough.

And then we didn't run it very well at all.

Not like, yeah. Kind of live and die by that sword.

Yeah.

I mean, I like the way that Michigan was built last year.

I like the physicality of the offensive line.

I feel like that's what you have to do if you're Michigan.

You can't be Ohio State, right?

You have to be Michigan and play the type of football that has gotten your program to the way it is.

I do think that there is something that has to do with culture

that gets passed down.

I don't think that a team can immediately change,

even if you have a great coach like they tried with Rich Rod,

a guy that will come in and change entirely

what you guys have always been about.

So I like what you did last year.

I don't know if that's going to be a type of football

that's sustainable moving forward, though, as all the rules continue to get changed to favor the passing game. Yeah, I think you need to keep that same mentality on the offensive line.
They won the Joe Moore Award last year, the best offensive line in the NCAA, that did not show when they were playing against Georgia. Georgia had, what, 15 guys go in the draft? It was crazy.
It was unbelievable. Their defense was an anomaly, right? It was like Alabama every other year, so I guess it's not an anomaly, except for Alabama.
But I think the only way for that to be sustainable is you just have to get some more speed on the outside. Still be who you are in the run game, but if you have more speed on the outside to run a couple of things, like you can, a quick little throw to the small, fast guy, let him get going, those types of things, you're playing a whole different game.
You're Darren Sproles' place.

Yeah.

All right, so moving off football for a second,

how are we feeling overall with the podcast?

It feels like you guys are crushing it right now.

It does feel that way, doesn't it?

Yeah.

It does feel that way.

It does.

I feel like we've kind of made it.

Your YouTube numbers are pretty crazy, right?

Well, it depends on what crazy is.

You know what I mean?

I mean, if we're compared to Joe Rogan,

we're definitely not doing anything.

Well, if everyone's compared to Joe Rogan,

we're not doing shit.

I think you guys.

No.

No.

I mean,

Thank you. Well, I mean, it depends on what crazy is.
You know what I mean? I mean, if we're compared to Joe Rogan, we're definitely not doing anything. Well, if everyone's compared to Joe Rogan, we're not doing shit.
I think you guys... No.
No. I mean, Joe Rogan's in a different stratosphere.
Billy's using us as a stepping stone to eventually get hired by Joe Rogan. That dude's in a different fucking stratosphere.
Do you think that's possible? Long game, Billy. Absolutely not.
Long game, son. What would you guys say, though, is the big thing that has felt like...
I mean, maybe I'm way off, but it does feel like maybe the last, I don't know, six months or so it feels like it's hit a spot where it's very consistently good every time and you guys have felt a groove. Again, you can tell me that's way wrong, but it does feel that way.
Is there anything that you can point to? Man, I don't know. That's a good question.
I do feel like we've been hitting a good stride. Yeah.
Sometimes guests move the needle for you for sure and then when those audiences of other guests watch us you retain a little bit of them right and then they kind of ride with you the rest of time um but i do feel like we've been hitting like a good stride like i it's tough i feel like we got a great like lineup of guests pft you got to come on big cat you actually got to come to nashville you tried to kill me in that fucking bus when i went on that bus taylor it was no joke it was the most perfect day in knoxville tennessee like the most perfect fall day it was probably 59 degrees not a cloud in the sky that crisp beautiful air you know what i mean yeah i went in the bus bus was like 140 degrees yeah and i was much. Check out them heat proteins.
Dude, I've never had a podcast where I was like, I'm actually having a great time, but if I don't drink something right now, I will pass out. Brandon almost did.
Yeah, he did. He was just complaining the whole time.
Can you imagine the numbers that episode would do if you killed Big Cat on the bus? Like on the bus. Watching him die during a podcast.
Yeah, still release the podcast. That's how you guys got to think.
Big Cat would want us to release this episode. If I died right here.
Yeah. If I died right here right now, I'd hope you guys would release it.
Yeah, so you guys are trapped in like the old school thinking mentality. You got to get like a little bit more cutthroat and understand that like actually hurting your guests sometimes is good for numbers and the outcome.
Like we. Hurting our guests physically.
Yeah. Mentally too.
Mentally. More so mentally.
Like what we're doing to you right now, because you're thinking in your head, did I tell him I was going to retire? You haven't really perked back up since the beginning. That is true.
What are you talking about? We all retired. Yeah, if you guys want me to jump on board and retire, I'll fucking retire.
We literally retired for the boys. If you guys need me to retire, I'll fucking retire.
Nah, we don't want it. It's too late now.
All right, good. Because I'm trying to play.
Go ahead and retire. I also think what you guys have discovered- Dude, fuck football, man.
I'll retire right now. Fuck this shit, dude.
I'm fucking done with this game, dude. All right, I'm back.
I ran into these guys at the coffee shop next door before we came into work, and I was telling them that they actually found their way into a hack of a secret way to just get engagement and numbers no matter what in the podcast and content game.

And that is to have a strong opinion about a fast food burger location.

Yes, absolutely.

So Playoff Willie over here hates In-N-Out.

I actually think that Hank is skipping this interview because he's so triggered by your opinion on In-N-Out.

He will make us, I think he's made us drive an hour out of our way to get In-N-Out.

We usually have to get it right after we get off the airplane in Los Angeles, right before we get to the airport when we're leaving Los Angeles. He's obsessed with In-N-Out.
You hate In-N-Out. And now everyone's either mad at you or loves you.
Yeah, I mean, I think, like, when you had to travel an hour to go get In-N-Out, Billy, were you part of this? Big Cat, were you part of it? Probably, yeah. I mean, was In-N-Out everything that he sits there and talks about? No, In-N-Out to me is the burger's very, very good.
The fries are lacking. And I think it's one of those things that if we lived out on the West Coast, I'd do it every now and then, but I wouldn't be like, this is incredible.
It's the novelty of it. Right, I agree.
Of us going out there and being like, In-N-Out, we don't get it often. I agree.
It's the experience factor. You said a great word, novelty.
There's like this novelty factor of going out, seeing the long lines of in and out, the experience. People were taking shots at me because I compared it to Chick-fil-A.
I'm not saying Chick-fil-A is an overrated chicken sandwich. I'll say that.
Yeah, I know you will. I mean, Popeyes just showed up with a chicken sandwich and dominated Chick-fil-A.
Immediately. People were dying for a chicken sandwich.
Hang on, hang on. Did they dominate them, though? They dominated them for a moment in time.
No, it's so much better, though. No, I disagree.
I think Chick-fil-A. People were dying for everything.
Hang on, hang on. Did they dominate them, though? They dominated them for a moment in time.
It was so much better, though. No, I disagree.
I think Chick-fil-A is doing pretty well. There are two different types of chicken sandwiches.
Right. One is much bigger.
It's got a lot of extra breading on it, and it's got a different type of bun. You can enjoy both.
I think they're both great sandwiches. I agree with you.
I don't think that ... So Popeye's came in, and they dropped a fucking bomb on the chicken game.
They did a job a nuke their rollout was really good it was like Glenn Taylor and then Popeyes the two people responsible for killing the most chickens in America this year and they create a fucking work of art with their sandwich chick-fil-a is still good I'm still gonna go to chick-fil-a like once a week and get theirs I don't think I have to choose and I think that when when it comes comes to the burger debate, here's a controversial opinion. I think all hamburgers are pretty good for the most part.
I don't think that there's like a gourmet burger out there in the fast food game. There's not one that I hate, but I think with In-N-Out, it's like you pay $4.99 and you get a good cheeseburger.
I think that's what people like to do. Yeah, I think people, yeah, and I'm one of those people as well.
If I got five bucks and I see In-N-Out, I would love to go to In-N-Out. When we go to AZ or when we go to the West Coast, I'm excited to go to In-N-Out because of the novelty experience factor of going to In-N-Out with my West Coast boys.
Right. But you go in the conversation as best tasting burger.
We're not talking about all the bells and whistles of everything else, and I think that's what In-N-Out does. Just like Chick-fil-A, incredible service.
They got workers out there working all the way out into the highway, dude, and you're getting your food. They're bam, bam, bam.
It's great service, great experience. The ingredients, yes, very quality, but again, we're talking about the best-tasting burger out there, and to me, In-N-Out is so overhyped.
Overhyped. All right, so Taylor, why don't you, you're sitting there.
I just think it's a load of bullshit. Will just, here's what Will's become.
He's become a guy that is obsessed with clicks, and so he'll say whatever he needs to do to make sure that people- Except retire. Yeah, except retire.
Yeah, right. Like, what would get the most clicks? No, no, no.
Retire. That's what I'm saying.
Only for a moment. But when December rolls around, and he starts talking about playoff Willie all over again, more clicks.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think somebody's bummed I passed him in followers.
Here's the deal. Oh, big time.
Actually, I think somebody's bummed I passed him in. I told you today I was proud of you.
I literally said to you I was proud of you. But now you're going to sit here and call me a click boy? Oh, you are a click boy.
You're going to call me a click boy? You're a click boy right now. Well, I'm going to give you a compliment here.
Oh, I guess I'll give my opinion later. Yeah.
No, I'm going to give a compliment. I guess I was going to talk about In-N-Out Burger, but no longer going to talk about In-N-Out Burger.
I feel like you guys- Go ahead, dude. It's your show.
Burger debates. You guys are doing a great fucking job here.
It's the tale of your show. And I do think, like, when you say last six months, I think one thing that we've done better at is just, I guess, being more consistent on the internet, too.
Yeah. Like, putting our face out there more, having more stronger opinions about stuff.
We don't have to go to practice every day. Right.
Exactly. And playing games until you've got a play games until you've got a lot more time to post I would say that I'd agree with that as well I think that the last six months we've done a lot better at being more consistent and I think I didn't just leave somewhere for four months is usually what I usually do in the off season to be around and then also doing the spring tour the spring tour was a big deal for us so Taylor give us your burger take it's just that the time's passed No, no, go ahead.
Yeah, that was huge. Spring tour was good too.
The spring tour was a big deal for us. So Taylor, give us your burger take.
It's just that the time's passed. No, no, go ahead.
I want it. I want it.
I want it. I want it.
Hang on. I want it.
I want a bullshit. Will's all about clicks.
Continue. Burgers.
Okay. There's no denying.
Oh, dude. I fucking knew it.
And I fucking took the trap. Damn it, dude.
Oh. You know when someone does something in you and you immediately hit like a sweat like your body like a minute that When you went like that when you hit I fucking drenched dude.
I'm curious You did that the fucking heat turned on immediately and went to 110 on me. I'm actually I'm so close I actually want to know I want to know Like I'm not laughing because I wanted to hear.
Let me cool down, dude. Thank God I'm wearing this Duke Cannon, dude.
It really cools my pits. Thank God.
When you walk in In-N-Out Burger. I don't care.
How did you not see that one coming? Because I thought. I thought you were genuine.
I thought you were genuine. I thought you were.
Listen, when we were down there, he said he loved In-N-Out Burger. So when Will said he wanted won after a year, I thought, oh, I'm about to have a teammate this game Billy, why haven't you said a fucking word yet, dude? Because in-out spree trash Yeah, Billy! It underperforms, whereas places like Carl's Jr., you're like, oh, is this place trash? Tell me from a guy that set up a boxing match, dude I agree with that Oh, oh, oh Hey, Billy, I think he telling me that was real.
Don't you think if I set up a boxing match, I'd make it a block.

You grazed his shoulder and he went down, my baby.

Don't Billy's mic memes.

You grazed his shoulder.

That was just going to become yelling.

Taylor, do you think you could beat up Billy?

Yeah.

I mean, I don't think it's important to have that conversation right now.

It's very important.

You can talk to me.

What do you mean?

It's the most important possible question to ask. I think you ask Billy that question It's just a toxic conversation Billy took three boxing lessons And he probably thinks he could beat me up right now Billy How many 225s can you get though Billy? No I don't bro That's it? That's cap Hey Billy hasn't said nothing to you Just Just don't let...
I know. Hey, you know what, Billy? Let me apologize to you.
That's right. You're letting a lot of...
You and I had a great rapport in the hallway. They did this.
I'm still sweating. Yeah.
Thank God I'm wearing black. We'll have your podcast broken up by the end of this.
God. We're strong.
We're good, baby. We gotta be bad.
We're good. So what's your handshake? And at what point do you guys stop being for the boys and start being for the men? Don't do that.
That's what we do on this my take for the men so you want to know about our handshake yeah boys you guys have got to witness it i'm sure i'm sure billy recorded it he could slow it down see it a little bit it's special i've actually always wondered that and will you might be a better person to ask than taylor because you played your career you've been a titan right so yeah you've bounced around a little bit. Journeyman.
You're a journeyman, a veteran. How long does it take to learn the...
You're taking notes. How long does it take to learn the new handshakes in every locker room that you go into and create your own with your teammates? Dude, what are we talking like? You've got to be an athlete to know handshakes? I know you've got handshakes with some of the boys, don't you? You've got to have a couple handshakes like how long does it take it doesn't take that long hiding under those glasses i don't think i have any specific handshakes with any really i think we do fist pounds sometimes we do hugs you know what's underrated handshake this one not don't do our handshake i'm just going to show you the no no the slap and the bump oh slap i like that slap this one i think that is the most underrated handshake of all time.
I don't know. I like the, like you dab, and then you grab them, you hook with the middle finger.
Oh, you hook with the middle finger? You hook with the middle finger. I don't like that.
I feel like I don't like that as much. You guys know, I learned a new one recently.
Give this a feel, Billy. Give this a feel.
I learned the hand hug. Do you guys know the hand hug? Oh, yeah.
This guy? Yeah, yeah. I do like that.
It's a little more intimate, though. Yeah.
Like you and I would both have to do like this. You would think in your head, we're going five.
We're going five, but you have to know that the hug's coming in. Oh, the scissor? Yeah, the scissor.
The scissor's nice. It's sensual.
I think, but I think the slap and bump, it's the coolest, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? It is, because it's got a little extra flair onto it.
It does. It does.
The hand hug's nice, but you have to have that rapport with somebody. somebody.
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Now, here's more Bustin' with the Boys Boys. All right, I'm going to go compliments for both of you.
Ready for this? This is textbook psychology. Break them down.
These are real. These are real.
These are real. Who wants it first? Who wants it first? Give it to Will.
Give it to Will so I know it's coming. Will, your videos where you're like, hey, buddy, come here.
Can I talk to you for a second? Oh, fucking hilarious, dude. Fucking hilarious.
When did you come up with that? If you haven't seen him, whenever someone has a bad take or someone does something stupid, Will pretends that he's basically a father talking to his son, being like, let me, why don't you come over here for a second? When did you start that? I love it. I think it's like sometimes you'll read some comments and I'll literally say to myself, this motherfucker, shut the fuck up.
And then I thought to myself, how can I handle this? Because you know how it is on the internet at times. You'll see comments and you're like, how can I have a little more fun with this? Right.
So that's when I did the whole, let's take a walk to the panzer, let's get you buckled in, let's put you in the crib, let's put you in the car seat. The possibilities are endless, but I have a lot of fun with it.
What do you have? Telling people to shut the fuck up, like there's... Shut the fuck up.
God, dude. When somebody says something in person, you're just like, dude, shut the fuck up.
It's like the best feeling, right? What's the next place? Give the viewers something that's coming up, that you got a spot you're thinking taking someone. You could bury them.
I don't know. You could bury him.
You could breastfeed him. Yeah.
You could do it. You could do it.
Yeah. Breastfeed him.
Ask my wife. Like, let's get this for real.
But he's Charo. That's what I'm saying, actually.
Ask Charo. Like, hey, sweetheart.
I'm going to do a bit. Yeah.
You're a fucking baby. Why don't you get on this tit? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a good one.
Yeah. All right.
And then ready for yours, Taylor? I am. So everyone thinks.
No, everyone thinks there's another thing that you guys do that I fucking die laughing every time. It's when Will pretends to chug something.
But everyone thinks that it's Will being great. Your commentary makes me laugh every fucking time.
Well, that brings a lot. Every fucking time.
Does that bring you joy? We're like, slow down, bro. Slow down.
Like, oh, you're a fucking monster. Like, wow.
And Will, if you haven't seen it, Will, like chugging videos, obviously, people chug and it's like, oh, fuck, he chugged so fast. Will just sips it super slowly and Taylor just in the background narrating it, being like, bro, you are a beast.
Oh, my God. I don't think I've ever seen somebody put it down as fast as him.
I don't think I've had it. I'll tell you what.
I've had so many. I've had two emotions since I've been on this podcast and both so dramatic.
Yes. One just like overwhelmingly anger.
Yeah. But then I'm like, I'm full of joy right now.
We're going to get you crying by the end. I legit feel like I just got a hug.
I just got a compliment and hug instead of a hand hug. Yeah, but I was thinking about what has made you guys pop a little more.
And I think those type of videos where we get to see you guys maybe be funny not just on on a podcast but other things yeah has been a big part of it because I like those videos crack me up every fucking time you know what I think I think uh a lot of that and I'm gonna throw one to you Will I think it has to do with Will breaking the stigma there you go a little oopy because I think um when it comes to like playing sports there's like a idea of like everything you post is to be cool whether you're getting on a jet or like this is the outfit i'm wearing or something like that will in a lot of ways and there's other guys that try to make jokes like kind of broke that a little bit and made it like let's try to just be funny right and there's a while there we were like i'm just gonna throw shit at the wall and see what hits and well i mean we'll found a stride your boy's still out there treading water trying to find out what my my vision is yeah. It's tough too because also like going in it like, you know, not that I'm discrediting myself as a player but when you're actually in it and going in every day like, there's a sense of you like walking around and guys seeing like what you post.
Does that happen to you? What's that? Like do people like see in the Titans locker room and they're like, are you about to fucking podcast this bro? No, I think the boys in the locker room are pretty good. Vrabel, he likes to chirp.
That's the thing. It's like going to a team meeting.
Vrabel, put your ass on a stake in the team meeting room. Vrabel will be like, let's see what our social media manager's up to this weekend.
I'm just sitting there like asshole tight like, fuck. Yeah.
No, he's about to make something up in mind. Is that what he calls you? The social media manager.
He'll call me like when I was on the team the last night. By the end of the year, he'll just call me the social media manager.
I'm not even referring to my name. That shit was so funny.
Yeah, Vrabel is, he does his 15-minute bits in team meetings. Oh, he loves it, dude.
He eats it up. He loves to sit there and tell jokes.
And the thing is, it's like a room that has to laugh. The shit he says is pretty funny, but he also says shit you're like, okay, I probably wouldn't give that thing a struggle.
I'm trying to make the team. That's fucking hilarious.
Some coaches have these motivational tactics that they do. They set up way ahead of time.
Sean Payton will put juice boxes in your locker and be like, you've got to stay juiced up this week, stuff like that. Vrabel, it seems like he spends more time workshopping his bits, writing jokes down before he comes in.
He'll have a few now. He's pretty fucking quick, dude.
He has got some quick to him. Some wittiness.
But there's no, like, one thing you got to give Raybel credit for is he doesn't do, like, the cliches. Like, you got to stay juiced up type of vibes.
Right. You know what I'm saying? He kind of stays.
His main one is, I played 14 years. Listen, boys, I've been in these seats.
I got rings. That's a pretty good trump card to play.
Dude, it's trump card. What are you going to say to that? And you can't chirp him for too long either.
If you chirp Vrabel, he'll chirp back. Then you chirp him one more time, and then he comes with a fucking haymaker.
He'll try and fight you. He could probably beat up 70% of the locker room.
I texted him the other day, and I was like, hey, who are we playing week one? And he texted me back and said, hopefully not the Cardinals. And I was like, just a massive

shot. I was like, holy shit.

Like, yo, it's Tuesday. How dark

was that? Oh, bro,

that was like... So for people

who don't know, Taylor gave up five sacks? No,

don't do that, dude. You know it's not five.

Taylor Jones has five. He had

five sacks. I gave up two.
But it was

a bloodbath the whole game. You know

that idiots like us watch

that and we see that he had five and that he was matched up against you sometimes yeah and we say to ourselves damn Taylor gave that's pretty much that's pretty much just like Twitter in general right there's that one clip too well the one with there's one there's another one Buda Baker oh yeah to me that's the hardest that was in a two minute no that wasn't a sack we got the ball on that one.

Thank God.

It's still a tough clip.

Hey, the worst part is

when I got hit

by Buda Baker doing that, at that point I was like so – like you want to see a man just unravel, like watch that game. You'll see me just absolutely unravel emotionally and mentally.
When Buda – I turn my shoulders and he catches me and I fly down and I get up just completely defeated. And Budaler Jones are like walking away like dapping each other up and Chandler goes I told you as they were jogging away so they were like dude this guy so what was it you were coming back from injury yeah was it not you know strong enough not you know you hadn't it was more mental and confidence than anything else like I wasn't I wasn't as strong I wasn't as strong or as, like, quick.
I wasn't as confident in, like, my body at that point. But I was, like, so, like, I had to be out there week one, had to be out there week one.
And then I got out there week one. After the first series, I was like, holy fuck, like, this is going to be a long day.
Right. And then sure enough, dude, he took advantage of my ass.
So if you're working on the mental side of your game, obviously in the moment, when you hear something like that, you're having a tough game, it's tough not to go into a big spiral, right? It's tough not to go into a bad, negative place. Is there something that you've learned from that experience where you can, in the moment, try to catch yourself and try to keep yourself from going completely checked out? That's the only game in my life I've ever been in a situation where it's like, hey, I just want to get the fuck out of here.
That's this and this interview. Well, no, right now I feel fine now.
The heat's kicked off. He said it in this interview.
I know, I'm sitting over here asking Billy for a water. PFT and I are Buda Baker and Chandler Jones right now.
Oh my God. I'm Chandler.
Hey, the worst part is the other day I posted something the other day and people kept tagging Chandler Jones and he commented on my Instagram. I was like, y'all keep posting, like tagging me in this stuff.
It's a new year. And I just commented back and said, hey, don't be the bigger man.
It makes it way worse. And he laughed.
I'm like, God damn. But sure, he's a great guy.
Sure'm sure he's a great guy. I'm actually interested to know, though, is there something that you can do? Is there a mental tool that you can use in a game to get yourself, to snap yourself out of a bad mood? Well, there's been other games where I'm not playing well.
It's like, hey, it just is what it is. You go to the next series, and you kind of just play.
That's never been a huge issue during a game for me. It's been before a a game or after a game type of thing but this game in particular it was just where i was at mentally with my knee where i was at also a little bit physically where i was just like i didn't feel like i belonged out there and like there are points in the year i was telling willis on our podcast bus with the boys subscribers i was uh telling on our podcast that like at some points last year i'm like how am i blocking these guys got to be terrible if I'm blocking them.
I'm leaving later in the year. And so it was just like the confidence was just totally shot the whole year.
And it started with that week one for sure. So in the film room, do you consider just like were you praying that you would get COVID after that game? So you wouldn't have to go to the facility? That's what I would have done.
For sure. I would have gone to a bar and just drank out of every glass

that was just left behind.

Come on, give me the cocoa.

Dude, it was actually a really cool thing

that Vrabel did.

After the game,

he texted me.

He's like, hey, come see me in my office.

And whenever you get that after a game,

he's just like, oh, fuck, dude.

I must have done something wrong

or I didn't play well or something.

And I knew I didn't play well,

so I was like, oh, I'm about to get chewed out.

And I get into Vrabel's office,

and he's like, hey, I want you to know

you didn't lose us that game like we all played bad we were

gonna lose the game regardless like don't beat yourself up too much like it's gonna take time

and he was like very cool and it was one of those rare moments where vrabel was like you know being

like you know being nice yeah so i'm actually curious no i'm curious and both of you guys

can answer this but like we as fans we freak out to everything right like a loss like that

Thank you. No, I'm actually curious.
I'm curious, and both of you guys can answer this, but we as fans, we freak out to everything. Right.
Like, a loss like that, we're stupid. We're like, Titans are trash, Cardinals are the best team in the world.
And for eight weeks, Cardinals were. Yeah, right.
So, how – I mean, I know it's cliche that's said to the media, like, one week at a time, we don't get too high, too low. How do you actually do that? you actually do that it never makes sense because like i would get so high and so low that it would i wouldn't be able to do it you know what i mean dude i think like so not playing like being on the couch and watching games and then going in and doing it is like it gives you a perspective because before i would get to the raiders or the titans um you'd sit there and watch games and you'd almost want to tweet something emotionally or just saying something.
And then I would kind of resist. It's like, well, shit, I might be out there soon, so let me not say anything.
But I think you just realize you're in such a bubble in the season. It's hard to remove yourself.
When Taylor was talking about social media and stuff earlier, there's just a it's it's kind of like not taking yourself so seriously because we're in a profession where all we fucking do is take ourselves so seriously that's all we do it's just it's alphas it's people trying to figure this out like who's going to be macho who's going to be the man yeah constantly posturing i gotta make the team i can't look dumb in front of the coach oh this dude laughed at me i hope this person doesn't feel that way since he just laughed at me and then you have the whole internet commenting about it it's like you're just you're in such a bubble and if you're like like when I wasn't playing and then once I like last this past year being on the Raiders and kind of enjoying that this could be my last year my last time playing football and just enjoying it for what it is like the game of football and people trying to bust my balls about not playing and then I'm just like I post pictures of myself standing on the sideline it's just realizing they're like shit isn't near as serious as you make it right because that because that stuff blows over in those few weeks like after the whole arizona stuff and the rocky season like there are weeks like you're sitting there talking to taylor and like there's nothing you can really say with somebody because you realize like they're they're like you know you're like you're like in it you're fucking in it right and there's there's in those situations there's no way to zoom out right there's no and then you're and then it's not as big of a deal right and now he's months later talking about it in such detail on a podcast because now you like gain perspective about what it actually was and now next time you do it he'll probably handle it he'll probably handle situations or in the moment when you're playing bad a lot differently because you realize like oh this shit doesn't last forever like i'm just i'm fucking in this moment i just need to like get over the hump right yeah i think a lot of other players probably appreciate the fact that you guys are kind of the ones that are like i don't know how to say it and like i've always hear british people say taking the piss and i'm not i'm still not sure exactly what it means but it's almost like you're like popping that balloon that everyone's like walking around so uptight. Like you said, everything's super serious in the NFL.
And then it takes one person to be like, wait, what the fuck? We can still joke about this. And then everyone's like, yeah, kind of deflates and they're like, oh God.
Yeah. That's, it's like refreshing to see that as a perspective, but in such like a high pressure situation, I feel like it's gotta be healthy for a lot of guys to have some sort of outlet like you guys have.
Like, I don't know. I feel like most players should have burner accounts if they don't have them already yeah sounds like you guys have a couple issues right now about burner accounts do you actually do the sound bob and content kim I've access I've got your Twitter I started a burner account about a year and a half ago and it changed my life like really on Twitter oh man I just well I don't use it to like talk shit about shit about anybody.
Before you say anything else, are you being serious? I just tweet out all my worst opinions.

Are you being dead serious right now? Yeah, it was a big thing.

Billy had to try to hunt it down and figure out who I was.

Did you figure it out?

No, because he's a moron.

Now, do you guys have the burner, is it burner Reddit accounts that I'm reading, that I'm

seeing?

No, no.

No.

These are Twitter accounts.

Yeah.

Burner Reddit accounts, if you're trying to get, like, your own propaganda out there,

that's...

This is, like, the dude's name's Zeke or Deke or something, right? Yeah. That's sussing with the boys.
Is that what KFC's all wrapped up about right now? Yeah. So he's trying to figure out who it is.
I personally don't really care. I'm sure that some people here at the company talk shit about us on Reddit.
Oh, yeah. You have to assume.
Absolutely. It's a company completely based around content.
You've got to assume there's going to be a way for people to vent, probably on Reddit or probably on Twitter. Yeah, that's care Bob hearing buzz in the office that will come to just retire from football and PMT Bob I think is mentally healthy I think it's good to just be able to get the thoughts like out there especially if you're like NFL player and you're expected to always be buttoned up and everything you say is a reflection on the team.
There's definitely a way you have to be. I never in my life have thought about having another Twitter account or any other account that wasn't me.
So the thought of it is a crazy thought. Yeah, because it would be all-consuming.
especially when you guys – Kevin Durant has talked about it, and I actually think he's been way better once his burner account got exposed and he was able to just tweet his real thoughts from his real account, and he just goes after them. I think it's hilarious, bro.
And it's awesome. Fuck, it's awesome.
And he just goes after them. Kevin Durant? Yeah, my boy.
He follows you, right? Yeah, my boy. Yeah, I mean, he is one of the best players in the NBA, so he does get a little more leeway.
You, you have to be really, really good to be able to do that. When people say, like, locker room distractions, is there ever actually a distraction? Is anyone distracted by any of these distractions? Ooh.
That's a good question. I'm sure the answer is yes.
Because I'm sure at one point there's got to be something that's like, I'm sure Antonio Brown at one point was an actual distraction. But not because of what he posted online or anything, because he's Antonio Brown probably.
Maybe, or maybe he's posted online about somebody, his teammate or something like that. I don't know.
He was kind of a distraction when he was going live from post-game locker rooms when Tomlin was talking to them and he didn't know he was live. Like that stuff.
I think Juju did that right like that's a bad move yeah that's a really bad move that's a move what it is it's just a bad move right that's a bad it's not really distracting like if i saw that amount like oh my season's fucked you know i'm saying it would just be like oh okay so i don't do that what would be an example well i mean will you were on the raiders the end of the year they went through one of the craziest seasons you weren You weren't there when all that stuff went down, but between Henry Ruggs, between Gruden going, getting fired, all these things, and they have a coach change. What did you sense when you were in the locker room? By the time I got there, I've spoken at length about Coach Passaccia.
Like, everybody loved Coach Passaccia.

Yeah, Foxhole guy.

We bet on him a couple weeks in a row because Booger told us that.

He's the man, bro.

And they have, like, a good locker room.

So you couldn't really sense, like, any of the distractions that happened prior to that.

But, like, you know, a good example, like, being in Washington, like, when stuff was going down with, like, RG and Kirk Cousins and RG having his comeback here, but he wasn't playing that that well and Kirk ends up taking over the job. He's throwing three picks in a game.
Should you go back with RG again? Like there was a lot of stuff to where the media and people write things where if you're not tight in the locker room and in the team meetings, like I think that's what Vrabel does such a good job of is you're having a team meeting literally every day. We're really gassing Vrabel on this thing.
He listens. He does listen.
He listens to everything. What up? But I think when you do that, you're able to control the narrative or talk about stuff out in the open.
Whereas on Washington, there wouldn't be a whole lot of team meetings and you wouldn't talk about it. So a lot of news that you would see, you're reading online.
So that in itself becomes a distraction because you're not necessarily getting it from the head man or from any... You're not getting it direct.
You're getting it from other sources. Can you confirm or deny a story that we've been told? I won't say who told us this, but in those days in D.C., it was alleged that Colt McCoy was super well-liked by everybody.
And I think that's not far-fetched to say that. That's one of Will's best friends.
Everyone seems to like Colt McCoy. And he had a party.
He decided he was going to have a barbecue at his house, and he invited everybody. He loves barbecues.
Kirk Cousins was a starting quarterback at the time, and Kirk Cousins got word on the street that there was this party going on. He got upset because he's the starting quarterback.
He should be the one having everybody over. He found out that his linemen and stuff were going to go to Colts.
He put the word out that there was a party. Everybody was still going to go to Colts.
He had to go to Coach Gruden, Jay Gruden, and be like, Hey, can you tell Colt McCoy to not have his party? Well, first he said trade him. Trade him.
First cut him or trade him. Secondly, can you tell him not to have his party at the same time that I'm going to have my party? And allegedly everybody went to kirk's party for like an hour and then left and had the real party at colt's i was not at either of these parties and i can't wasn't no lie hand up hand on anything liar i was not at any of these parties and i do not uh i wouldn't say confirm or deny but i i don't remember Colt having like some barbecue party.
Cause again, I wasn't, I wasn't invited, I guess. Would it surprise you to know that that was true? You know, um, some stuff would be surprising, but some stuff, no, not surprising.
Oh, wow. What an answer.
It would not be surprising. He's saving it for his podcast.
This is why we should never interview other podcasts. Fuck us, dude.
They've already taken all of't like Guys did love cool We gotta unpack that for a second What you guys ripping us off The fact that they think we stole their thing Because they did one couple episodes in advance That's the thing though They're not actually trying to They're just joking on us They're trying to on us. They're trying to get me in.
They're trying to get us. They're trying to divide.
They're trying to get their audience. I told you you could get in our skin.
Who did, there was some guest we had on recently that fucking Will was in the mentions being like, come on my show, please. That's it.
What was that? We will do that. Who was that? What are you talking about? We had a guest on recently.
Hey, we'll approach anybody. You're like, please come on my show.
That's not fucking true. What was it? Oh, are we talking about Max? You were tagged in the same tweet I was tagged in.
Oh, yeah, Max, take Max. Come on, please come on our show.
No, no, no, no. Somebody said he should come on our show, and I responded to it.
You said that. Max, please, please, please.
My man Max favorited whatever somebody said of him coming on Bustin' with the Boys. So that's when I reached out and said, yo, you're more than one of them coming on Bustin' I honestly never have a problem with that because like- No, I don't either.
They work with colleagues. We did that.
We're also colleagues.

How do you guys start?

You guys saw Mac and had all the guests, right?

That's the oldest trick in the book.

It's to just be like, come on, part of my take to discuss.

It's funny to get you to have to explain it when I don't even need you to explain it because I saw it and I was like, yeah, Mac should go on with them.

He's awesome.

Are we colleagues that you root for?

Yes.

I root for all my colleagues.

Because there are some...

Is that true?

Yeah.

You root for all your colleagues?

Yeah, definitely. Do we? After this week, do we root for all my colleagues? Let's talk about that for a little bit.
Some of them may not. I definitely root for everyone.
Do you really? Yeah, honestly. Would you take a polygraph? Honestly, I don't...
I never really root against somebody. Oh.
That's not... I don't have...
Are there people you don't quote unquote fuck with in this building? Well, there are people that I'm closer with that I'm not closer with. Yeah, that's fair.
But do you get along with everybody here? I do not shun anyone. There's nobody that I will walk away from in the hallway.
Yeah, but here's my question. And listen, is this the camera here? I don't know anything.
I don't know nothing. I don't know anybody's real business.
I kind of tried to play catch up a little bit this week. Why would you shun or not fuck with? I just don't want to be around him right now.
I probably, look, I'm at the end of the day. I'm probably too soft and give too many second chances.
I told him to his face on Monday. I was like, at some point, I'll be fine with you.
Right now, I'm just not. So, like, there will be a moment.
Like, summer's coming up. I won't be, you know, people will be out of the office a little bit i i would almost guarantee that by fall time like it's not like mush and i will we won't have a relationship that we had before because i considered him a friend so that's the part that people miss like i considered him a friend so that was part of it but we'll be back to a point where like yeah you know what we're we're not like cool cool but we're we're good you guys will work together again there'll be a blemish there's just a little bit of time that i need to just fucking chill out and be like i don't really want you like sitting near me and like give me give me like a month and then i'll be good and i'm i'm we're not going to be too much of a dead horse here but i'm really asking i'm really asking because i just want to know i want to know is like what made you think okay i don't it's just because because you're fucking boys with Hank like that? It was a lot of things.
It was, it was the fact that I'm very, very tight with Hank. I've been working with him for a decade.
I also was friends with Marty and we also spent a lot of time together. Marty, Hank, PFT was there for a lot.
Like all of us spent a lot of time together the last three months. like I start replaying like we took him to Madison rolled out the red carpet did a whole thing we sat in Madison at lunch all PMT and Marty and he spent like a half hour talking about like exes and girls and stuff the whole time he's dating Rhea like so like shit like that where I'm like wait why why are you doing that you know what I mean so I those kind of moments are moments are like, I just don't, it kind of just bothered me.
And again, I'll probably be fine within a month. But when I heard and the way I heard, I was like, dude, that's not cool.
Like we were literally on the road together for two months. And you could have said something then.
Yeah, anything. So I don't feel like anger about that.
But when I look back on it, it is a sign that like, I don't know, lack of trust maybe because you don't you're clearly holding something back from people that like i i share everything with these guys like good bad whatever it just is what it is i'm never trying to like play a chess match or anything like that i feel like once you start playing chess matches with people you're going to get beat eventually right you're going to make a bad move and it's just it's time and mental effort to do it, which is why I'm not, like I'm not playing a chess match against Marty right now. Probably kicked the shit out of him in a chess match if that was the case.
You think so? You play chess like that? No, I'm just, I'm guessing based on Marty. But I've been very...
Here's the thing. I don't feel like that's ever productive.
I feel like there's so much, so many more things that I can be using my mental energy on than like actively trying to like uh you know expend some of that on hating so directly yeah no i don't negative energy i actually talked to him on the phone yesterday this is breaking news i talked on the phone yesterday for about 20 minutes and i was like dude like i'm i just told him everything i was like listen man like this is why i'm i was upset i'm already we're already four days past it and i've already already cooled down probably from 100. If I was 100 mad, I'm probably at like 50 now.
That's how fast I cool down. I'm not a grudge guy.
I don't spend time just hating things. So I told him that.
I was like, look, dude, if you just keep your head down and we kind of stay out of each other's way for a couple weeks month whatever we'll be good eventually

yeah so like i'm not i just don't have time to hate people like that but it was it was shocking it was it was just the combination of everything the way i found out the fact that i consider marty a friend how close i am to hank all that stuff throw it all together that he sits next to us and he sits next to hank throw it all together and that's why i had my my reaction. How, in a way, that it would work out, like where you didn't have any anger for Marty, like what would you have liked to see happen? If they were on us right away? Like, hey, we hooked up? Yeah.
If Rhea and Marty were like, hey, we hooked up. Yeah, I think I would have.
Is that Rhea? Yeah, if I just had something. Sorry, no disrespect.
Yeah, no, Hank found out a few weeks before. Everyone else found out, and he said that he was very mad for 48 hours, and then he was able to, like, you know, calm down.
We got none of that. You know what I mean? Like, we found out.
We were at the Canelo fight, and it was like, what's this? And then it was just, you know. So, yeah, and obviously Marty doesn't have to tell me, but if he had, I think my reaction would have been a little different.
If I was in high school, I would have shunned. And I did in high school to friends that broke up with their girlfriends and stuff.
It was like, okay, I'm shunning this person. This person's no longer invited places I'm going, things like that.
I just don't have the energy or I don't have the desire to do that right now. Hank knows I've got his back until the end of time.
I'd rather just focus on me and Hank. We're good.
Anything he needs,'m there for him you name it he's got it like and he's and hank's hank's proven like he's been so loyal and i was actually telling these guys about this earlier like hank in his new job that's why he's not here right now by the way is he's actually he's running the company um but he didn't want to talk about burgers yeah and he wanted to duck you uh hank has gotten a lot of shit over the years like kind of as a, but sometimes from people that don't understand the joke saying all he does is press record. Hank is a genius in his own way.
Like everything he touches works. I think it's a perfect role that he's got.
So I'm very happy to see him. I want to support Hank moving forward.
I just don't feel the need to like, I'm not going to go out of my way to just like, I don't have that negative energy to give out. Yeah.
And my shunning is not like, it was just literally just literally just move seats like I I told Billy he had to go to the thing last night with him it's not like I'm gonna just actively be like trying to stop him every spot yeah I don't want to I probably am like a little bit too overprotective of Hank I'll hand up well I mean like it if I'm Hank I've known him since he was 18 like if I'm Hank and I'm this whole thing goes down in the last 72 hours like not just tom brady but it seems like everyone's yeah no you know you're like hank and yes damn like good for him yes yeah he's gotta he's gotta be doing a deal i have uh two more questions because i we gotta wrap up i gotta run to the yak one is for you taylor your tattoos yeah i want to be a tattoo guy okay i don't know how to start pinterest. I love your tattoos.
Do you? Yes, no, I legitimately think you have very cool tattoos. Thank you very much.
Honestly, I'd go to Pinterest right away. Do you care if they have meaning or not? Not really.
Yeah, go to Pinterest and then find out what you like. But can you just become a tattoo guy like that? Like, when did you get your first one? I was 17 or 18, 17.
Wait, I missed the boat. Your first one has to have meaning, right? You didn't miss the boat.
You reinvent yourself, bro. What's your first one? Your first one has to have meaning.
You just get Ted to say My first one My first one was just my last name I'm getting yatted this weekend I went to this tattoo shop in Arizona And I got old English LaJuan But they put an M instead of a W So it was La Man Oh my god And then La Man My second one was his mustache That's cool The third one I got was A Roman numeral 6 From my best friends in high school And a girl's initials who I proposed to from when I was leaving for Michigan. Didn't work out.
And then, yeah, I just started getting tattoos over and over. Got tribal and then I was.
Do you have one, Will? No tats. No, Will he doesn't.
He's not a tattoo guy. But if you're actually serious.
I do want, but I don't know how to start. If I were you, dude, I would go to Pinterest and find out what you like.
Now, are you a little worried because as both of us fathers of two have your kids been like oh that's cool i want one of these yeah my uh my oldest daughter wants that too she's i can't wait to have tattoos like daddy so when she's 18 okay because here's all the tattoos i got before i was 20 are i'm trying to erase off my body right right i'm trying to erase them all except for this mustache i love the mustache that and my right hand man this dude is oh i like that yeah it's a nice little deal right it's clever but yeah I'm trying to erase them all, except for this mustache. I love the mustache.
That and my right-hand man. This dude is...
Oh, I like that. Yeah, it's a nice little deal, right? It's clever.
But yeah, I'm trying to erase all those. What's that? I'm going to get a plaid half sleeve eventually.
A plaid half sleeve? Yeah, well, I just tell people that's my first tattoo that I'm going to get. Yeah.
And then I just say that I'm eventually going to get it. A plaid.
And I just never... I've never seen a plaid tattoo before.
There you go. That would be original for sure.
It might be cool. All right.
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Taylor, you were there. One, two, or three, which interception was the worst from Ryan Tannehill in that game against the Bengals? Oh, my God.
Because they're all like, I was thinking about it. First play of the game is special.
Goal line is, like, really bad. And then, like, oh, shit, we just lost the game.
Like, they all have very unique, holy fuck, that sucked. Yeah.
I think the first one was like, whoops. You know what I'm saying? It was like a whoopsie-daisy.
The second one was a freak interception by the nickel blitzing and then tipping it to himself. Mike Kilton, I think.
Yeah, who's got wheels, by the way. And then the third one, and listen, this is all insurance policy.
I don't play quarterback. I have no idea how to read defenses.
Third one is we got to fucking go win this game, and I don't know if it was an accident or not or what the deal was. I don't know what the deal with the third one was.
So which one do you think was the worst, Will? Man, either that first or third one. Don't fucking take a deep breath.
Like you're about to dissect this whole thing on us right now. I'm a free agent.
I was literally there. Yeah, I played with Ryan, too.
He's a phenomenal guy. It sounds like you put a lot of thought into this, actually.
Like, you've considered this. No, I'm sitting here thinking about that, and I'm thinking that's a good question.
The second one's the bottom. It's either the first one or the third one.
Because the first one's kind of just like, fuck. Dude, you looked at the dude the whole time.
I know. And I bet you guys that day, which is always a bad sign when I start believing in you guys.

If you want to bet on the Titans, we'll go ahead.

I was going to say, my thought was like, come on now.

Come on, big.

Come on, big.

My thought was like, and not even as much on Ryan, but it's like, we were running up.

The boys, we got the boys running a play action pass and one side just two tight ends and

they're staying in the block.

There's nothing else to do. What do you expect out of Ryan? And then the third down one, the third down one was tough.
Seven-man pro, it's pretty regular. Because you're trying to fucking, you're trying to go down and win the game.
What's that? It's a pretty regular thing to have a seven-man pro. Are you serious? Yeah, I know, but first play of the game? You're trying to take a shot down field.
Everyone thinks Derek. But that wasn't even a shot down field.
Everyone, yeah, there was two reads on that play. It was.J.
or Julio. Yeah, I watched it.
I'm saying you have a seven-man pro because you're thinking to yourself, it's the first game back Derrick Henry's had. So everyone in the world thinks we're giving the ball to Derrick first.
Derrick's out there. Everyone stays in.
Linebackers are shooting up. At safety, he just did something he never does.
The answer is all three of them. Is that the answer? Oh, there was a right answer to this.
Yeah, there was a right answer. Are you upset that Ryan's not going to teach Malik Willis how to throw three interceptions in a playoff game? No, I don't think so.
I'm not upset about that. For the record, when you guys signed with Barstool, we had a press conference and we were like, we're not teaching these guys shit.
That's fair. And look how well we've done.
And look how well we've done. We've actively tried to kill your careers.
It's not our job to mentor these guys. It's not.
But we ended up mentoring you. Hey, but if I could say...
Teaching you everything you know. If I could say something.
It's like what Ryan's saying about Malik. Hopefully hanging around enough.
Like, he'll pick up some of the stuff we do. That's what you guys did with your entire show.
I think the sound bite was bad. Yeah, the sound bite was bad.
Honestly, I don't care. Like, that's the right answer.
That's what he should say. Dude, it's not Ryan's job to mentor the young guy.
It's on the young guy's. It's definitely the young guy's job to get as much from the vet as you fucking can because this dude's done it for a long time.
It's not like Ryan's not going to. You never think I'm going to go out of my way and do like this is in my job responsibility or my job description to mentor somebody else.
To teach him how to take my job. Yeah, the soundbite it's like he doesn't ryan didn't mean nothing but malicious if i was ryan i probably would just left that one alone yeah you almost yeah i would have said i would have been like yep and then i'd be like fuck you malik yeah if i really felt that way like when i first got to the titans michael ruse was the left tackle i dm'd him on twitter and i said hey dude i would love if you like and i could sit down and learn the playbook.
Never heard a thing. Of course.
Never heard a response. I wouldn't.
And that's okay. Do you feel stupid sending that? I feel stupider the older I get, too.
It's the one that keeps biting at the apple for me. You would definitely be like, oh, man, what was I thinking? You're thinking like you're hungry to learn.
You want to go in there and do all the right things. Yeah, I'm trying to show the vet, too.
Yeah, you're trying to make him like you, but you don't realize that by him teaching you everything, he's going to lose money because of that. You're quite literally taking money out of his kid's mouth.
Yeah. That's crazy.
He's feeding his kid's money? Kid's mouth. I'm taking his kid's money's mouth.
Money out of his kid's mouth. If he was like 42 years old, I think it's a fair question to ask Ryan Tannehill, but he's still kind of in the prime of his career, right? Why would he be expected to teach this guy? Yeah, I mean, that's a tough deal.
Also, I had a question to ask you. Billy has this theory about the guy that you just mentioned, Derrick Henry.
Love Billy. I'm with this, yeah.
Did you bring up the first? Great running back, right? Why does Billy have a pad and a pen? He's got this question written down. Why does he use an iPad? Oh he use an iPad oh you wrote it down he had a bad experience with Ryan Whitney earlier this week I know you want to bury him no no no I don't want to for the record Will's trying to bury Ryan's hand no I'm not I wanted to see something I'm not going to do it don't listen listen last time you started playing that game what happened last time you played that game I had to kill my son yeah you had to kill your son we'll have to talk to your son yeah yeah that was tough my son texted him and said why is my daddy hanging from Yeah, what happened? Last time you played that game.
You guys killed me. I had to kill my son.
Yeah, you had to kill your son. We'll have to talk to your son.
Yeah, yeah. That was tough.
My son texted him and said, why is my daddy hanging from the scene? Yeah, what a bit you stated. Dude, that shit was so funny.
That shit was so funny. They were fucking with me and I just pretended that I committed suicide and my son took the phone and was like, why is my daddy dead? Nothing says humor like murder or killing herself.
Or a three-year-old texting. What do you got with this.
Been walking out. No, I had this theory that Derrick Henry has super long legs for his height.
Like the proportion of his legs, the rest of his body. I feel like it's actually detrimental in short yardage between the tackles because people can wrap up his legs more.
And there's been a couple times where it's been proven right, but every time he does well in short yardage, it's like in a sweep or he's bouncing out of the tackles. Yeah.
So that's just something to think about. If you listen to Buzz with the boys, this has been talked about in length.
That's his build. And your boy RC brought that up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ryan Clark said he'd meet Derrick Henry in the hole, no problem, go up high on him.
Yeah. I think, no, I don't think it matters.
I think he's big and tall, and I think a lot of people had come at him for that, but, I mean. He's insane.
I mean, I'm not saying anything about that. Yeah, he's insane.
You're saying his long legs are detrimental in short yard situations. Yeah, I just think everybody's like, oh, Derrick Henry, like fourth and one.
Derrick Henry would have been the MVP this year if he didn't get hurt. Yeah, 100%.
I'm not saying he's bad. Same with me.
Yeah, I would have been the MVP too. No, if hadn't gotten hurt.
No, that's what I'm saying. If I'm playing the entire year, I'm probably getting Defensive Player of the Year.
You think so? Yeah. Yeah, why not? You can't prove them wrong.
RG3 would have won like nine Super Bowls. Just like if the Titans, I mean, we're winning the Super Bowl.
You did say that. That's a fact.
You did say that. For the boys.
That's crazy. The boys.
Yeah. That's wild.
All right, well, we appreciate you guys busting with the boys. Go check it out.
YouTube're very very funny you can go back listen they had Bert on a couple weeks ago they had KFC in fights on we gotta come down we'll come down we need you to come down yeah are you guys actually gonna come down or are you just saying that I'm actually I might be in Nashville in like three weeks we'll be here there are you really I think so yeah I think I'm gonna be down there I'm going to be down there. We'll exchange our numbers.
We'll figure it out. Sounds good.
But we appreciate you guys. Everyone go check them out.
They are very, very funny, and we root for them because they are our colleagues. Thanks, guys.
Love you. Thank you, guys.
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Okay, we're going to wrap up with hockey just to put a bow on it.

The final from Phoenix.

Dallas, Mavericks 123.

Phoenix Suns 90.

Chris Paul finished with 10 points.

Huge, huge second half.

They just ran out of time, big cat.

I don't I really like I actually am mad at Chris Paul oh I am too I'm furious at him he robbed us I'm not mad I'm just disappointed well no I'm mad because that was such an ass kicking that was such an embarrassment that there's a small part of me that feels bad. And I don't want to feel bad.
I want to revel in this. I want to have fun with it.
But there's a small part of me that's like, holy fuck. Maybe everything that we've said as dumb, like kind of a shtick, but not really like, you know, narratives is true.
Maybe he does stink. Well, I mean, all the evidence would point you in that direction.
They put a graphic up on TNT in the fourth quarter. It was sad.
It was so sad when they were doing the lap around the stadium. Not only with the sad Suns fans, but also just zooming in on Chris Paul.
I think Chris Paul put on a full, his entire street clothes during the game on the sidelines. He just got all bundled up.
But they put this thing up there'm pulling up the exact graphic right now that detailed chris paul's history in the playoffs in best of seven series chris paul lost series after leading 2-0 2008 west semis versus spurs 2013 west first round versus grizzlies grizzlies 2016 west first round versus blazers And 2021 NBA Finals versus the Bucs. Add to that list the 2022 second round against the Dallas Mavericks.
And there have been a lot of injuries in there and weird shit, but man, it's bad. It's bad.
And the Suns were the best team all year in the NBA. I think he was crying on the bench, actually.
See, he's robbing it. He's robbing us.
Like, we needed... No, this isn't right.
Let's go to our good friend Ryan Russillo for comment. Ryan tweeted, awesome.
Awesome. Yeah.
Awesome. We're going to give him some time.
We'll hopefully have him on again. And he hasn't tweeted since then.
That was an hour ago. Yeah, it's not good for our boy.
We're being nice to Ryan. We're getting that trending.
Be nice to Ryan. Hashtag be nice to Ryan.
All right, let's talk hockey. Let's start with Friday night.
PFT Jake, go down to D.C. Looked like it was going to be an incredible, incredible win for the Capitals.
And then it was stolen from you, overtime loss.

Thoughts, and give us, just dump it out.

Dump out the titties.

You guys look good.

Yeah, so we were going to the game.

We acquired the fake boobs.

We had a swimsuit.

Memes ran out, and I think he went to Nordstrom Rack,

purchased this very tasteful bikini top for the game.

We were going into the arena. We figured that the best way to get in would just be to put the boobs on underneath my t-shirt on the way inside.
Got through the initial line of security. There was a second line of security, one of whom was an AWL that was on the lookout for me.
Fucking asshole. He had me on radar.
He tracked me in, pulled me aside, and I got ambushed by three or four security guards. And they were talking to me.
They're like, so why, why do you have breasts, sir? And I was like, well, I mean, I'm not, I'm keeping them under my shirt. I've got a bikini.
I would not have worn the bikini over the nipples if I was just planning on exposing the fake breasts. And he was like, what section are you in? Let me see your tickets.
He's like, oh yeah, these guys are definitely going to be on TV. You need to to give us the fake boobs so we had to turn over the fake boobs unfortunately on our way in we had to improvise and say okay we'll just go tarps off for the lads and then jake man of his word true to his word took his shirt off was wearing the bikini top for like the first two periods basically right he looked awesome look great jake was glowing yes i had argued that the backup punishment was't like taking my shirt off.
Yeah, I know. I was actually thinking about that.
What's Jake going to do? And you guys both, many of your words. How, though, I mean, I think everyone wants to know, post-game, we saw the handshake.
How brutal was it, PFT? I mean, I knew it was going to be bad. We also agreed before the game to do a handshake when they were doing a handshake on the ice.
Yeah, we would do a handshake line of our own. Yes, I knew that there would be a handshake.
I waited a few minutes. I didn't do it right when they scored.
He didn't do it immediately when they scored. Part of that was I was laying down fully on the ground in just despair.
I was like Coach Buds when they hit a three in my eye. I just went, I planked.
I brought back planking after that. But I stood up, got back to my seat.
Jake waited an appropriate amount of time, gave me the handshake, and then he went in for the hug. And the hug I was not ready for.
The hug I could not handle in that moment. I fully expected the hug to come, but it was much worse in the moment than I had even prepared myself for.
Did your time was going to be okay? No. What did you say? I thought it was a great series.
And it wasn't that great of a series. I still maintain.
It's a good series. I still maintain.
It wasn't that great. It's a good series.
Stop it, Jake. You're right.
It was a good series. I maintain that if that empty net goal goes in on Monday, that the Capitals win that series.
It's inches. Jake agrees.
Stop it, Jake. Please stop it.
It is a game of inches. Jake, do me a favor.
It would make me feel – you want me to feel better, right? Of course. It would make me feel good if you were an asshole to me about this.
I can't do it. Please.
That's what I need right now. You can't do it.
Jake, come on, please. Just say one mean thing.
Be like the better team won. Your team stunk a game six.

Oh, you didn't even mean it.

You didn't mean it.

I feel better.

What do you want me to do?

It's not natural.

I feel better.

Okay, ready?

Yeah.

Your fans were not locked in in the third period.

Oh.

And you agreed with that.

Oh.

Two, two, six minutes left.

They start doing the wave in an elimination game.

And I'm like, I go to PFT.

This is going to result in a Panthers goal. Your fans don't care don't care right now And he's like, yeah, you're right And they scored a minute later It was bad We did the wave and we saw it coming Jake and I both agreed in that moment This is not a good omen for us If it's, I don't know, if it's the 30th game of the season Or something like that in the second period.
Two-two, spice it up in January. I'm not an anti-wave guy.
I think the wave's fun sometimes. But you've got to pick your moments.
I think that was started by an agent of chaos. I think that was started by a Panthers fan that snuck in.
The five of us there? Yeah, all five of you guys. Well, no different from what it's like in Sunrise.
Oh, that was a bad... The game's been selling out.
That was mean. Yeah, a lot of red sweaters in the crowd down there.
Yeah, red and navy. I had accepted it at that point.
I was like, this is not going to work out. Vernon Davis was like two seats over from us.
You could see all the blood drain out of his face, too. He knew it was coming.
Yams. Was your boy Kodak there? I did not see Kodak.
I was looking for him, and he DM'd me before the game. you want to link up and have a grilled cheese yeah that rocks yeah I didn't know that yeah me and Kodak like this me Meek Mill Kodak best friends all three of us um no he didn't DM me yeah situations that Bubba was so pumped to maybe be like one away from Kod let yourself believe that.
The time you took a picture with Uzi was like one of the best days of my life. I was like, there's a chance I might meet him.
I have a mean comment. Another mean comment.
Oh, now you're just unloading the clip. All right, yeah.
What just happened was I poked a little hole in the dam, and now it's all flooding out. Well, I want to do what you asked me to do.
PFT was wearing a Caps hat, a Caps shirt, a Caps shoes, and his lucky Caps jeans. I bought a Panther shirt at the NHL store the day before and ended his season.
Wow. Shut the fuck up, Jake.
That's, I mean, it's all true. Memes chime in.
Jake also gave PFT a game puck. Oh, that's so nice.
Oh, yeah, another little story. There was a crack in between the bench.
Again, fortunate first row behind the bench. There was a crack in between the bench again fortunate for first row behind the bench there was a crack in between the bench in our seat my phone beginning of second period i was taking off my shirt for the bikini my phone falls off my lap into the crack the usher's like we can rip apart the glass after the game but you have to wait and then when they got my phone after the game there was a puck there too wow so you gave him a puck i gave him a puck he threw it.
And it almost hit an usher in the middle of the Concords. Well, I didn't want it.
I didn't want the losing puck. That's very nice of you.
It's just a memory of pain that you tried to give me. It was bad.
But you know what? Tom Wilson being out the entire series, it was just not our year to begin with. Sounds like an excuse.
Jake, shut the fuck up. I have a spin zone for know i know and i love jake i love him to death and he knows that this is all coming from a place of love deep down inside but it was it was tough and then after the game we went out to a bar and uh i just got i got obliterated at this bar just like absolutely drowned myself i ordered the biggest drink it was like i I think they call it a mega mule.

It was a Kiev mule,

but it was about seven times the size of a normal one.

And I drank almost all of it by myself.

Lost my jeans.

I lost my pants in the bar.

So they just belong to the city right now.

Somebody in Washington, D.C. has my oversized pants,

and that's just... You leave everything on the ice in the last game.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say they just threw him out. No.
No. No.
No. Definitely not.
Sounds like these are sweet. That's a piece of DC sports history.
Do you think the boobs are just in the security office of Capital One Arena? Yeah, that guy's horny. He probably took him home.
Well, also, how does someone who's a fan of this show, like, try to do that to us? He robbed. Shame on that person.
He robbed everyone. I'm suspending that security guard.
You're listening right now. You seemed like a nice guy.
You're a scumbag. But you're suspended for two episodes listening to part of my take.
You know what? I hope that we get a situation where we have the same thing happen in that same arena, and you try to confisc my own personal breasts and then i sue you for life there was a another security guard that came over i think before overtime started and he made us put our shirts on even though we had we i was covering the hell two out of my four nipples so it wasn't a hot chick it would have been fine exactly this is bullshit it's tough being a guy sometimes guys getting persecuted i have a spin zone for you all right hit me uh you're not a maple leafs fan that's true so the other i kind of was this year yeah that is true yeah but the the maple leafs the toronto maple leafs uh lose game seven that was the other notable we had a bunch of game sevens uh the bruins lost to the hurricanes um the edmonton oilers won while everyone was sleeping. I assume everyone was sleeping.
Very late at night, Connor McDavid. But the Maple Leafs, that was the fifth time in a row, five years in a row, they lost a win-or-go-home game.
The only reason I'm not saying game seven is because that stupid bubble where it was a five- series they lost in the fifth game. It is so so bad for them.
They've done it every single which way. They haven't won a series since 2004.
They now will be drafting players in this year's draft that will be born after they last won a playoff series which is incredible. That's good though.
Yeah I guess. Yeah in a way yes you're right in a way i usually history i usually don't put any stock into like the old stats that are like well the maple leafs when they play against the kings in the stanley cup finals haven't won a game since like xyz or whatever it is probably never happened actually but you know like the ones that they always bring out of like the history between these two teams yeah i don't really put that much stock in it, but it's got to be good for Toronto having players that have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever about the history of your team.
Yes, it is. I mean, they have now 10 straight losses in games that could close out a series.
Think about that. So in the last five years, they've been up 3-2 twice and 3-1 another time.
They were up 3-1 last year against the Canadiens. They have had 10 straight losses in closeout games, and that's not even throwing in all their recent terrible, terrible string of luck in the last five years.
I completely forgot. I went back and I looked at their playoff history.
That game seven in 2013 against the Bruins when they were up four to two with two and a half minutes left and gave up two goals in 31 seconds and then lost in overtime. It's tragic upon tragic.
They were fighting each other, which I'm actually – I was thinking about it. I'm a fan of that.
I think that at some point you just have to fight each other. Iron sharpens iron.
In the concourse, there was videos. And then they also had the quote, which was kind of taken out of context, but it's still, I ran with it.
Most people ran with it. It was a real quote.
Let me just pull it up real quick. Shit.
If I'm the Maple Leafs, I got to release a statement. I got to do the Tampa Bay Lightning thing and put out a very, the most sad pathetic statement about how bad your team is.
And be like, we're going to learn from this. You'll never see a team work as hard as we do.
Yes, exactly. Sheldon Keefe said after the series they got a lot more respect in the post-series handshake line from the Lightning than after previous losses.
That's good. That's improvement.
Huge. It's baby steps.
He did go on to say we're not in the respect game. We're in the winning game.
We've got to find a way to do that. So that is the full quote, but just saying we've got a lot more respect, hey, that's a win.
You guys, people are respecting how you lose. They won game eight of the series.
They won game eight. They won the, yeah.
We walked away. Basically undefeated in game eight.
The lightning Jake Marston. Yeah, exactly.
They're like, yeah, you guys played a hell. You guys were way better than we thought.
Jake, did you plan on giving me the full hug, or was that a spur of the moment? No, that's out of his playbook. No, that's out of his playbook.
A lot of people were saying, like, oh, he's doing the muscleman thing to you. I was like, no, no, no.
I think this was just, like, Jake wanted to jake wanted to hug me and also the players do that too not all of them but some of them who have a lot more respect than usual like they're going for the hug you were giving definitely the goal the goalies you're doing always double respect yeah of course so much respect um and then we had the rangers just beat the penguins in overtime memes because hank is in boston memes is is uh behind the camera right now memes i have not seen someone uh root so much against the team than what you're doing with the rangers every time we watch a rangers game you're rooting so hard i thought you were a penguins fan for a minute and then i realized no no this is just he's a diehard islanders fans he hates the rangers so where are you at right now uh big Canes fan now. Canes at four.
They can't lose at home. Raising Canes.
So you just really despise the Rangers. Yeah, I'm not a fan.
Not a fan of their fans. Not a fan of anything they do.
They're terrible people. Their fans are literally just the exact same people as Islanders fans.
They're your neighbors. No, no.
Garbage. I don't think we ever mentioned this, but when we did the congrats off in our chat, memes was like, is anybody going to congratulate me on the Rangers losing? Yeah, right.
I could tell. You could tell when you're around someone and it's very personal, and I love it.
I appreciate anyone who has that type of hate, but it threw me off because I was very confused with how much you were cheering for the Penguins. So you're just a – like if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup, rank that on worst things that could happen to you as a sports fan.
So Patriots winning, which is like my whole life. Yep.
You're a Jets fan. Yep.
And then – So much so he wouldn't shake Julian Edelman's hand when he came in the first time.

Yeah, and then...

Which was actually a hilarious move.

He just was like, yep, all right, hello.

Me and my dad said to each other, we're like, the Rangers are going to win,

and it's just going to suck, and all their fans are just going to rub it in the face.

What would you rather have, the Rangers win a Stanley Cup

or the butt fumble happen all over again?

Good question. I'd rather kill myself.
Good answer. Butt fumble.
No. This is when you know it's really bad that you can't.
You're torn. Yeah, I know.
He's having legitimate conversation inside of his own head. No, Rangers.
Rangers. That's worse? Yeah, we can't start over with the butt fumble.
Okay, yeah. And you know, though, as part of...
Oh, he's second-guessing that now. As part of your job, if the Rangers win a cup, you gotta tweet about that a lot.
Like, a lot, a lot. I am unbiased, so I will tweet it out.
I think... Yeah, I'm very unbiased.
You're like one of those... You know, like Facebook had to, there's like people who had to basically be a moderator on Facebook and take down like violent videos and stuff, and they all got like PTSD.
That's what's going to happen to you if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup. Yeah, it's like the crying face with the happy face on it.
Tell it to us like a meme. I think if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup memes, you got to go cover the parade for us.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I actually am going to put you on a tweet count, too.

I want 100 positive tweets on the Rangers.

I want us to be a Rangers.

Part of my Take Twitter account and Instagram will be Rangers Central.

I got a massive future on these Rangers. Yeah.
So you got to pull with the team, right? Go Canes. No.
Go Rangers. Yes, you have to.
I mean, listen, we might. Yeah, I think I'm going to be rooting for the Rangers now, too.
It kills him so much. It's like you with Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, I know. I could tell.
I love it. I appreciate it so much.

This is what sports is about.

You got to hate.

When your team's not in it,

you got to hate.

You got to find a way to hate.

I hate him so much.

All right, well said. Just jump on board

that they're better

without Lundquist's train.

That's true.

Because it's a nice

little backhanded compliment.

He's a very overrated goalie.

Yeah, no rings.

No rings.

I went, I actually,

Bubba, I know you're a big fan of his. I actually did go to his house one time.
Who? Lundquist's house. Why am I a big fan of it? Oh, just feel like you like Kodak Black.
You like all these big celebs that we run the same circles with. But I went to his house one time.
That's a very big stretch right there. No, but I went to his house one time, and I was like, hey, I'm pretty thirsty.
Do you have anything to drink? He couldn't give me anything to drink. Can you believe that? Yeah.
You're fucking with me again. No.
No, no, no. Ask him why.
Why? Because he doesn't have any cups. Bam.
I got it. Yeah.
That was Frank Fleming original. That's a Frank the Tank show.
I mean, the Ovi with the bag of golf gloves. No, club is the best.
I mean, that happened for like 10 years. That's why we have to put a cap on this whole podcast.
That's why we have to cherish Chris Paul and what he brings to us. Because narratives that we can just believe in, even though the player is a very, very good Hall of Famer, they're just so much fun.
They're great. I never got the Ovi Golf Club's thing.
He's not a golfer. Have you ever...
What about Ovi's screams? He probably killed Putin. The caps losing probably sent Putin over the edge.
Ovi, the first time he ever played golf, had a hole-in-one on his first hit. On his first hit? There's no way that's...
Look that up. Is it a Kim Jong-un thing? Yeah, no, I swear to God, it's on tape.
What? Yeah, I remember seeing it. There's no way that's possible.
Ever. I don't know if it was his first hit? There's no way that's true.
Look that up. Yeah, no, I swear to God, it's on tape.
What? Yeah, I remember seeing it. No way.
Ever. That's possible.
Ever. I don't know if it was his first time ever hitting the ball, but the first golf outing he ever went on, he hit a hole.
On the first hole, par threes are not hole one. I bet Billy believes, too, that Kintar got like a 30.
No, dude, it was posted to. But a par three never leads off.
It's very rarely hole one. I would say never.
I would say... A par three course.
Or a pitching putt. Also, shout out Albert Pujols for pitching.
No. No.
Scratch that from the record. It was very cool.
Fat fuck. According to golf.com, Alexander Ovechkin made a hole-in-one during his first ever round.
Okay, that's a little different. According to golf.com.
You said the first swing he ever took with a golf club. First swing, first hole, boom, hole-in-one.
You know this podcast is recorded. I know, I know.
I hear your words. There was a little hyperbole there, but it's still crazy the first time he ever went golfing.
That is crazy. That is crazy, I agree.
So speaking of Ovechkin in golf. He's a really good golfer.
He's a great golfer. I don't know if he's a good golfer, but he's a lucky golfer.
Oh, he got a hole in one. On his first swing.
Yeah. He's a good golfer.
Sources are saying. By the way, Billy definitely, he did report that Vladimir Putin was dead.
Low key. Off the air.
No, but he called it, he said it low key, so that means that there could be a chance he's not. He's our John Cena.
Yeah. Low key, Putin might be dead.
I shot him down. Yeah.
Low-key. Low-key.

When does it become high-key?

When he's high-key dead.

Oh, he's got to be dead to be high-key dead, or wouldn't he not just be dead?

Well, like, there's stuff going on.

I think when The Rock tweets about it, he's high-key dead.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Good show, everyone.

Also, the Flames and Stars are playing, but there we go.

There was your mention.

There are a lot of people that come to this podcast.

Why does Shaq have a cowboy hat on right now?

Because of Mavericks.

Okay.

Yeah.

And the women's San Antonio.

Yes, yes.

Charles Barkley did say that once.

Six.

Several times.

Charles Barkley, not Shaq.

Churros.

Yes.

All right, numbers.

What's Chris Paul's number?

Three.

Three.

25.

I'm going to go with 13 again. 13 is out of play.
Oh, it's out of play. Unless we put it back in.
Okay, no, no. Is Chris Paul 13? CP3.
CP3. But is he? Isn't he where? I don't know.
I'm going to go with. No, he just chokes.
28. What do you got, Memes? Did Billy pick 69? 69.
No. 68.
Okay. No, he's three.
He is three. i don't know why i thought oh usa yeah there it is i'm so smart at sports 28 what i bet oh my god you made me win it with a different number you said win it with a different team that's my number and I changed it.
Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Wow.

Hank probably would have taken 18.

Yeah.

He loves that.

Raccoons have thumbs.

Really?

Yeah, watch them.

Just Google raccoons washing their hands.

It's actually freaking nuts.

Love you guys.

That's crazy.

All right, Putin.

Long time still.

Love to guess that ass. All right, Putin.
Long time still. Loved Guess That Ass.
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Take me on

I'll be gone

Take on me You did. I'm out