Buzz Williams, Patriots Trent Brown, Tiger Is Back And Guys On Chicks

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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we've got a twofer for the people. Coach Buzz Williams back on the show.
Haven't talked to him in a while.

Speaker 1 He's here for the NIT, the Texas AM, Aggies, competing in the semifinal on Tuesday night. So when you listen to this, hopefully he's a winner.

Speaker 1 And then we have Trent Brown, offensive lineman from the New England Patriots. Very large human.

Speaker 1 One of the largest humans we have, ever had on the show. Just on Earth, really.
On Earth, off his new contract. Talk to him in studio as well.

Speaker 1 We are going to talk a little tiger, overtime rules change, hot seat, cool throne, guys on chicks.

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Well,

Speaker 4 his plane is going to Augusta, allegedly. I've been scouring the message boards.
I've been looking at Flight Aware, Flight Tracker, all the above, checking out the tail numbers.

Speaker 4 It appears that Tiger Woods is is going to Augusta. Now, there's no other reason why he would be there unless he was actually playing in the event, right?

Speaker 1 Well, I talked to my sources in the golf world, aka Frankie Borrelli, and he said that there's a 95% chance he's going to be playing in the Masters.

Speaker 4 If I was Tiger, even if I wasn't playing, I'd just fly down there for the free meal. Yeah.
Go to the Champions Dinner. Peace out.
But, I mean, Tiger is such...

Speaker 4 like a legend in Augusta that he could show up. They could create just like almost like a pace car group for Tiger where he just gets out there and he plays 18, not even officially in the tournament.

Speaker 4 Give him a cart, send him out, just let him let him open up the tournament.

Speaker 1 People are saying that he's actually looking good though.

Speaker 1 It's whether he will have the endurance to last four days in Augusta, but he played in that tournament with his son. He looked good there.

Speaker 1 The word on the street, again, this is sources, Frankie Barelli, said that he's striking the ball very well.

Speaker 1 He's actually better today than he was even in 2019 when he won the Masters last and was coming off injuries. So there you go.

Speaker 4 So Tiger has improved his swing like, what, nine, ten times over the course of his swing?

Speaker 1 He's reinventing yourself.

Speaker 4 Keep reinventing him. Sometimes like having a drastic life change, a life-altering change, like maybe he's learned to not like rotate his right ankle as much in his swing.

Speaker 4 Maybe he's actually improved. He's come out of this stronger.

Speaker 1 All I ask is that if Tiger competes, and let's just say like storybooks, you know, ending, he wins the Masters again this year.

Speaker 1 Do you think the police officers who refused to take a blood test after he crashed his car will also be there?

Speaker 4 I don't know what you're talking about, big cat.

Speaker 1 That would be a great, like, I don't give them the

Speaker 1 guy because I like forgot all about it, and I'm happy Tiger's back. It's great TV.
I want him to be back and playing golf.

Speaker 1 But I've never, I read the article again today, and it was like, the police officers said they had collected all the data and they won't be releasing anything unless the unless Tiger Woods and his lawyers agree agree to it.

Speaker 1 That's hippo.

Speaker 1 That's how the judicial system works.

Speaker 4 If you're a celebrity and you drive a car, unless it's because your dogs are trying to bite you while you're driving,

Speaker 4 you're entitled to due process, which means that if you're rich enough, they won't release the report.

Speaker 1 Yes. So it would be nice, though, if that officer, who I'm sure is a big Tiger fan.

Speaker 4 Well, I also think that if you're in a single car accident and you almost die, almost lose your feet,

Speaker 4 at some point, it's like, okay, how much more can we punish this guy than him not being able to walk for nine months?

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, if you're driving under the influence and you Varsal already have a DUI, maybe it's a good idea to be like, hey, you shouldn't do this anymore. That's HIPAA.
That's HIPAA.

Speaker 4 Holding celebrities accountable is HIPAA.

Speaker 1 Either way, Tiger, it's good that he's back.

Speaker 4 I'm glad that he's back. I mean, just his presence makes the tournament more exciting.

Speaker 4 I'd like to see him in the par three tournament with his son.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see him in everything.

Speaker 1 If you told me Tiger was competing

Speaker 1 for like if he was fifth place on Sunday, it would be the most incredible story and it would be great and everyone would be tuned in. Tiger makes golf more fun.
Tiger's presence makes golf more fun.

Speaker 1 I don't know anyone who's like,

Speaker 1 I obviously bust Tiger's balls on certain things, but like who out there isn't like actually rooting for Tiger because he's so important to golf? No, he moves the needle. Right.

Speaker 1 And he's also been like, he's the perfect story of.

Speaker 1 You know, he was the perfect choir boy guy who then fell down and had to rebuild himself. Like America loves that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was an all-time moment when he got up on stage and announced that he had to go seek treatment with his mom for attendance. For having too much sex.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had a sex addiction press conference.

Speaker 4 Listen, if anybody's getting bonked, it should be Tiger Woods. Yes.

Speaker 4 Back in the day, if we had that technology where we could just bonk a guy instead of sending him to a 12-step program, tell him just jerk off more.

Speaker 1 That should have been, though, the only punishment he had was he had to stand up in front of the country and his mom sitting front row and being like, yeah, I have too much sex.

Speaker 1 And like that right there is the embarrassment. Like, okay, you're good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like that actually is the therapy because do you stop having sex so you don't have to do another one of these press conferences in front of your mother.

Speaker 4 Right. Adding his mom to the mix was difference because when he would be like, I have too much sex, his dad would be like, high five.
Also, you need to work at your form because seriously lacking.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But when you have to say that to mom, it becomes real.

Speaker 1 Yes, really real.

Speaker 1 So Tiger might be back. Masters coming up.
We're going to have Max Homa on next week. Very excited.
Max is going to make the cut.

Speaker 1 I actually, I was upset about that because there's a lot of press going around about Tiger possibly playing in these Masters. Not enough press going around that Max Homa guaranteed he'd make the cut.

Speaker 4 He's going to make the cut.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 He's going to make the cut. A million percent.
There's no pressure. I mean this in the nicest way possible.
I'm saying this because I think that Max has a chance, however remote.

Speaker 4 It's not unthinkable to think that he could win the Masters.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm going to bet on him.

Speaker 4 No, I'm going to bet on him too. Absolutely.
100 to 1. But here's the question.
And again, I'm saying this

Speaker 4 from a place of love, Max. Would Max Homa be be

Speaker 4 the worst golfer of all time to win the Masters?

Speaker 1 No, Mike Weir.

Speaker 1 You think so? I'm pretty sure Mike Weir didn't win anything after.

Speaker 4 But what about before?

Speaker 1 I don't think Mike Weir has a fucking... Does Mike Weir have a PlayStation 5 tour open? Fortnite Open.

Speaker 4 Isn't Mike Weir like the guitar player for Grateful Dead?

Speaker 1 No, you're thinking of Bob Weir.

Speaker 4 Bob Weir.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Mike Weir. Let's see.
Mike Weir won. That'd be crazy if he won.
He won eight times on the PGA tour,

Speaker 1 and he won the Masters in 2003. He did not win any other majors.

Speaker 4 But he won eight times on tour.

Speaker 1 Right, but Max is already.

Speaker 1 Max has probably got three? Well, he's got the PlayStation open. He's got the Fortnite open.

Speaker 1 He's got

Speaker 1 what else?

Speaker 4 Fisher Price.

Speaker 1 He's got five. He's got five professional wins, three on the PGA tour.
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 But like, Max has a long career ahead of him. He does.
He does. So I don't think you could say that about Max.

Speaker 4 At the moment, he could be. We'll see.
I just, you know what? That's champagne problems to have.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just go out and win it for us, Max.
I'm trying to look up Mike Weir. I saw, because there was an Instagram, I don't know why this is serendipity, but there was a

Speaker 1 I saw an Instagram video of Mike Weir practicing his swing while I think his wife was in the grocery store outside of his car. I like that.
I like that. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Because Mike Weir, I, I mean, why wouldn't you show up to the Masters every year?

Speaker 4 That's relatable.

Speaker 1 You have to show up to the Masters. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 That's the best part about winning Masters is you get the jacket. They should give Jim Nan should give give Coach K a green jacket if he wins.
That would be nice.

Speaker 1 I'm looking it up right now. Mike Weir actually had some pretty good finishes, so I'm going to just Google

Speaker 1 worst Masters champion ever. I'm sure it's some dude from like 100 years ago.

Speaker 1 25 worst. Find that for me, Jake.
What's the worst golfer to ever win a Masters?

Speaker 4 Like some guy named Lefty that played with a wooden stick.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 find me someone who just sucked, and he just had one great,

Speaker 1 great year, and that was it. Actually, I'll text someone and I'll get an answer for us.
Actually, ask Max.

Speaker 4 Be like, would you be the worst?

Speaker 1 Yeah, would you be the worst?

Speaker 4 I'll just ask him that when we interview him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, would you be the worst? All right, so what else we got? We got overtime rules, changes.

Speaker 4 I have a question for you, big cat.

Speaker 4 Can we call this the Matt Ryan rule? Just out of respect for him? Because he didn't get the ball in that overtime in the 28-3 game. Oh, I think it's more of this.

Speaker 4 It's definitely more of the Josh Allen rule. Yeah.
But I feel like, you know, let's give a little bit of respect to old Matty Ice.

Speaker 1 Well, so

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 the rule, here's the only, the thing I don't understand about this rule. So it now is both teams in the playoffs, playoffs only, have a chance to possess the ball.

Speaker 1 So if you go down and score a touchdown, the other team gets to get the ball back. They go down and score a touchdown.
Then they just kick off or they can go for two and win the game.

Speaker 1 What happens when you go to overtime in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Let's say it's the Chiefs Bills. The Chiefs go down and score a touchdown.
The Bills go down and score a touchdown. Then they kick off.
Then the Chiefs go down and score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 They win the game. And everyone's like, well, it's unfair because the Bills don't get to rebut.

Speaker 4 So the Bills score the first touchdown.

Speaker 1 Chiefs scored the Chiefs score the first touchdown.

Speaker 4 Oh, so then the Bills score the first touchdown. No, no, at that point, that's where we push off the, well, you have to play defense in this league, too.

Speaker 1 Right, which is exactly where we're at right now.

Speaker 4 We're pushing it back to possession.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like the rule change because I do think that more teams will,

Speaker 1 if a team scores a touchdown in the opening drive and then

Speaker 1 the opponent gets the ball and scores, they most likely would go for two to try to end the game.

Speaker 1 But it's just funny to me because it actually has the chance of just having two extra possessions and then right back to the initial problem of wait, the other team doesn't get to

Speaker 1 respond to this.

Speaker 4 Well, it's because it's kind of like the kicking game where they're kind of minimizing the importance of kickoffs and being able to kick for touchbacks.

Speaker 4 But the kicking game is still, it has some importance. They're doing that with the coin.
Right.

Speaker 4 So they're saying, okay, the coin should not determine the winner of the game, but it should be a small part of the outcome.

Speaker 1 Right, it still helps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The coin still

Speaker 1 has a very big part of, because I don't know, would you...

Speaker 4 We're respecting the coin.

Speaker 1 You would kick off with the coin now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would definitely kick off. Because then if you stop them, you just have to kick a field goal.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And if they score a touchdown, you have the chance of scoring a touchdown and going for two. But wait,

Speaker 4 we should also remind the players that you should elect to kick off. You don't elect to defer.
Correct.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that's really all that changed here. It's just the teams now, if you win the coin flip, you're going to want to kick off.
Exactly. Yeah.
Yes. I had a wild idea about it.
Okay.

Speaker 5 How about whoever receives the kickoff? So you flip the coin, they can either opt to receive the kickoff or get one point and then kick off. So then if you don't score, the other team wins.

Speaker 4 You get a point for doing nothing. Exactly.
Wait.

Speaker 5 You get a point for basically kicking off.

Speaker 1 Well, so it's. Wait.

Speaker 1 So, for example. So you're just saying if you get a stop, you win? Exactly.

Speaker 6 Because then defense.

Speaker 4 And you would always kick off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What? You get a point.

Speaker 1 And what if the other team scored? So it would be like... So if it goes up over time and it's 17-17, right?

Speaker 1 Now it's 18-17. The other team scores and it's 24-17 or 24-18.
Yep. And then you score a touchdown, you win? With the extra point?

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I don't know. How about this?

Speaker 4 The team that receives the ball, now that they're at a one-point deficit,

Speaker 4 if they punt, they also get a point. So now it's a tie game again.

Speaker 5 I think that's where it would work out. But then it would give you a bunch of things.

Speaker 1 No, but I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 I just potentially threw out the dumbest.

Speaker 1 I just punt right away for that point back.

Speaker 5 Or maybe you opt out of your extra point and you get it when you kick off at the end.

Speaker 4 I do like the concept.

Speaker 1 I like where your head's at, Billy.

Speaker 4 I like the concept of awarding points to teams in sports for doing absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for just existing. Yeah, it was like the SAT.
It would give

Speaker 5 you some value.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm happy they changed it because now we don't have people complaining that, oh, they don't, you know, Josh Allen's sitting on the sideline.

Speaker 1 But I'm just pointing out the fact that we'll just find a new complaint. Because if it keeps going, there will be a new complaint and it will be exactly like

Speaker 1 the new complaint will have the answer that the old complaint had is just play defense.

Speaker 4 Just be good at defense.

Speaker 1 Exactly. He just could have solved all of them.

Speaker 4 Defense is half the game. Here's my advice to Roderick Dell and to the owners.
You just put the word super in front of everything and it becomes cooler.

Speaker 4 So be like, this is the new super overtime rule format. And then you can add in whatever dicked up change you want to make and everybody's like, this seems important because it's super overtime.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. So yeah, that's kind of everything that's going on.

Speaker 1 Well, Hank, you mushed your own bet. You finally decided what to do, right? Do you want to get the hot seat cool thrown? Well, do we have anything before we get to the hot seat cool thrown?

Speaker 4 Just that Kyle Shanahan is starting to look like Forrest Gump now. Have you seen the pictures of Kyle?

Speaker 1 Well, he's wearing his losses.

Speaker 4 He's wearing his losses big time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's got a death stare to him.

Speaker 4 When you're wearing the light blue plaid button-up t-shirt all the way to the top, and you're sitting there looking like Forrest Gump on a park bench trying to hand out chocolates to people, but no one wants your chocolates because your chocolates haven't had their shoulder surgery yet.

Speaker 4 It's a very sad image to look at. And the way that he's talking about Jimmy Garoppolo, and I kind of feel bad for him.

Speaker 1 Jimmy and John Lynch, they're really playing each other's words against each other.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I feel bad for Jimmy now because

Speaker 4 Kyle Shaw.

Speaker 1 Shepherd's, I don't know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 Well, he's, you know, Shepherd.

Speaker 1 He's best friends with Don Yee.

Speaker 4 And what they're doing is like, they're publicly saying, yes, okay, we did try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, but that doesn't mean that we don't want him here next year. Right.

Speaker 4 So it's almost a good problem that we have that we're unable to trade him. Now we've got him and Trey Lance at the same time.
That's great, isn't it?

Speaker 4 I just kind of feel bad for the guy.

Speaker 1 Well, they kind of missed out on the whole carousel.

Speaker 1 All the quarterbacks are spoken for, including Andy Dalton. Nice guy.
Signed with the Saints.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 that is a weird situation. What are you going to say, Jake?

Speaker 7 Claude Harmon won the 1948 Masters. He has two total PGA tour wins.

Speaker 4 There it is. Claude Harmon.
What a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Claude Harmon.

Speaker 1 That name was right on the tip of my tongue.

Speaker 4 Total fraud.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that there'll be some golf hardos that will get really mad at me about the Mike Weir answer, but I just, I, anyone who's a like a lefty in golf and Canadian sticks out in your mind forever.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Those are the two things.
Yes. It's like, oh, yep, that's Mike Weir.

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Speaker 1 My hot seat is the Celtics, and myself, as a result, I did figure out what I was going to do. I did take some out.
I took out 10 grand. Good responsible.
Good responsible.

Speaker 1 I'll always always have that. And then I put a like I figured out the math so that it equaled $100,000 if it hits.
Celtics and Duke championship parlay.

Speaker 1 It was like somewhere like $3,000, $3,600 or something.

Speaker 1 And then the next morning, Robert Williams, it came out that he has a Tourmaniscus. He's going to be out for at minimum three weeks.

Speaker 1 So hopefully, if they can make it past the first round, then he comes back. But then it's like, who knows how healthy he'll be.
Right now, Big Cat. I don't know if you can look at the standings.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've looked. 4-5, Celtics, Bulls, first round.

Speaker 1 I was actually talking to our friend Ron this morning.

Speaker 1 I look at the standings every day. The Bulls are in free fall.
They're terrible right now.

Speaker 1 I just do not want to play the Celtics, the Sixers, or the Bucs because I don't want to have to deal with the fans of those teams.

Speaker 1 What about the Nets, Frank Fleming? I can deal with Frank. That's fine.

Speaker 4 Well, Frank will be essentially rooting for the Bulls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 4 Now, what about the Bucs? Why don't you like Bucs fans?

Speaker 1 Well, Bucs fans are Packers fans. They'll come at me in the Grayson Allen thing.

Speaker 1 There's there's all that.

Speaker 4 Having Grayson Allen, like a Dookie, ruin your season with that hard foul on Caruso has got to be tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I don't want that. No, Caruso's back.
He's back. He's playing.
He's playing. He's playing well.
But the Bulls aren't. I just want the heat.

Speaker 1 I want to play the heat, let the heat just fucking smother us and just walk away and be like, all right, that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 I blacked out from

Speaker 1 January 15th, it was the last time I watched the NBA. That's what I want to tell myself.
And the Bulls were awesome.

Speaker 4 So, Hank, what kind of meniscus surgery? Is it going to be the long one or the short one?

Speaker 1 There are two kinds. Sounds like the short one.
Sounds like the short one.

Speaker 4 Okay, so, yeah, I mean, you can win a first-round play. I don't see a reason why he wouldn't be back in the second round, third-round.

Speaker 1 They definitely will beat whoever their matchup in the first round. Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 That's what I was going to say, too, because on Sunday they won and they were like mathematically in first place for a minute, and then they lost last night, and they're now in fourth place.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 1 right now, the Nets are the eighth seed. Right.
And, like, Kyrie's back. No one wants to play the Nets.
No one wants to play the Nets. So

Speaker 1 I would rather be a four and play the Bulls than be a one and play the Nets or a two and play the Cavs. Like the Cavs are fucking nasty.

Speaker 4 So what about this, Hank? Because it seems like there's still a great chance that they could win the NBA champions. Like not that much has changed if you think you'd have to win.

Speaker 1 The odds actually went down.

Speaker 1 The odds when I put it in was plus 1,000. It's plus 800 now.
So it's not super hot seat. But

Speaker 1 Robert Williams is essential for them to win a championship.

Speaker 4 You might want to double down on it.

Speaker 4 I think your only crime was being too right. You were too early on it.

Speaker 1 We'll see. I've been thinking, I mean, now, obviously, like, when you win a a lot of money, you spend a majority of your time thinking about future bets.

Speaker 1 I know you guys have been in similar situations. I've been thinking about the can't-lose parlay that Big Cat's been talking about too much.
Kansas and Duke, Saturday night. How can it lose?

Speaker 1 It can't lose. It makes too much sense.
It can't lose. I've learned over my time, my history with Big Cat and gambling that

Speaker 1 it does lose. It will lose somehow.
Villanova. Villanova.
Can I actually say how I have an idea for Villanova because I was thinking about it?

Speaker 1 And obviously, Justin Moore being out is a problem for them. And we've talked about Jay Wright, you know, he doesn't wear suits anymore.
I didn't realize his tailor passed away last year.

Speaker 1 He needs to bring back one of his favorite suits from his Taylor, who's deceased. That's what he's got to do.
A special Juju suit for Saturday night.

Speaker 4 I've also been thinking about Villanova for the last couple of days. Jake and I talked about it before you got in the room, but I'm talking myself into Nova

Speaker 4 for a couple reasons. One, the foul shooting.
Worst foul shooting team ever.

Speaker 1 Plus sign.

Speaker 4 Plus sign, that's number two. Jay Wright is a better tourney coach than Bill Self is.

Speaker 1 But here's the issue.

Speaker 4 I know their second leading scorers out, but... No, it's not even that.
The guys on the bench have to be... They can't be bad, right? They can't be that bad.
They play at Villanova.

Speaker 1 So when I asked last night, all the responses were like, the guys on the bench aren't bad, but they just have played bad. That seems like they're bad.

Speaker 1 They're like, they have good, they're four and five-star recruits.

Speaker 1 And then also there was a lot of, we need to trust in baby uh archie diakino and that feels i don't like that i don't like that they also all villanova fans were like justin more didn't play the game against ucon and we kicked the shit out of him so there's a little confidence there i don't i don't think villanova's obviously they're not going to roll over i just don't know how you can go from uh we don't have any bench to we just lost a starter and be like we're okay yeah also like kansas they're kind of falling into the they ain't played nobody paul category in the tournament at least yeah they've they've had a pretty easy road road to get here.

Speaker 4 Everybody's just thinking about the second half that they had against Miami. I don't know.
I'm starting to talk myself into Nova, I think.

Speaker 1 I have a future on Nova that I'm just going to

Speaker 1 was lit on fire once Justin Moore went down. So let it ride.
V's up. V's up.
I know. Listen, I believed in Nova.

Speaker 1 I put a future on him, and it was the classic, like, oh, they were going to the Final Four and then they just lost a starting player when they have no bench.

Speaker 1 But imagine if they beat Kansas and then no, yeah, I feel

Speaker 1 was hank was hank trying to get you to bet on villanova this has nothing to do with hank i was honestly just don't let us i was just he wants i've been thinking about villanova for the last time he knows he knows villanova would be an easy easier game for duke so he doesn't okay this is where this is where

Speaker 4 this is where things are getting dangerous as a podcast because big cat and hank are now engaged in mental warfare against each other where even though

Speaker 4 i i he might be since the game of the year it's a mental warfare but there's also like subterfuge and subtext in the mental warfare that you're doing against each other that you guys are now also, if you haven't already, started to invent ways that the other guy is fucking with you on subject.

Speaker 1 He wants Villanova to win. I know.
Put a gun to his head.

Speaker 1 He wants Villanova to win. That's not subterfuge.
There's no subcontext. He literally is saying to himself:

Speaker 1 If Duke beats UNC and Villanova beats Kansas, raise the banner.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying the levels of like

Speaker 1 Spinach. I know he's doing it wrong.

Speaker 1 Probably not. So don't let him influence you.

Speaker 4 I literally have not spoken with Hank about Villanova.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to try to talk to you into it.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank,

Speaker 1 it sounds like I don't convince you much.

Speaker 4 Hank, don't talk to me about Villanova.

Speaker 1 Don't. Ever.
Ever. Don't get mad at me when

Speaker 1 Villanova plus sign hits.

Speaker 4 I'm not even talking about this tournament. I'm talking about FCS football season, anything.

Speaker 4 Don't mention the word Villanova to me.

Speaker 7 But if you want to hear about Villanova, we have Colin Gillespie on the bench model.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Jake. I'd love to hear that.
Jake Galaspia.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he didn't know who he was, by the way.

Speaker 4 He didn't know who Colin Gillespie was, legendary fullback, runner-up to the low man trophy on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Great interview coming.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne, Hank?

Speaker 1 Oh, my cool throne is the Dawn, 45. Oh, yeah, you got me.
45. I mean,

Speaker 1 this was one of the funniest things I've ever read. I thought it was satire.

Speaker 1 He released a statement, and

Speaker 1 I'll just read the whole thing. Yes, please.

Speaker 1 Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th president of the United States of America.
Many people are asking. Wait, Billy, please rise.

Speaker 1 Many people are asking, so I'll give it to you now. It's 100% true.

Speaker 1 While playing with the legendary golfer, Ernie Ells, winner of four majors in approximately 72 other tournaments throughout the world, I don't know where the approximate comes in there.

Speaker 4 Darren Revelle, I've got over nine.

Speaker 1 Gene Sayers, winner of the senior U.S. Open, Ken Duke and Mike Goods, both excellent tour players.
I made a hole in one.

Speaker 1 It took place at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, on the seventh hole, which was playing at 181 yards in a slight wind.

Speaker 2 I had a five-iron, which sailed magnificently, magnificently, magnificently.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Magnificently.
Magnificently. Jesus Christ.
Cut that. Not really, but which sailed magnificently into a rather strong wind.

Speaker 4 Okay, real quick, I'm going to stop you because this is my favorite part of the statement. He started that sentence by saying,

Speaker 1 on the seventh hole,

Speaker 4 which was playing into a slight wind, and then he hit the five iron, and it sails magnificently into a rather strong wind.

Speaker 1 Right. It got stronger as you go up.

Speaker 4 It does, yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 With approximately five feet of cut, whereupon it bounced twice and then went clank into the hole. These great tour players noticed it before I did because they are slightly better.

Speaker 1 But on that one hole, only their swings weren't.

Speaker 4 Okay, so this is another great part because he's giving credit to the tour golfers only for being able to see his hole in one go in better than he could.

Speaker 1 That's perfect. I fucking love it.
That is perfect. Anyway, there's a lot of chatter about it.
Quite exciting. And people everywhere seem to be asking for the facts.

Speaker 1 Playing with that group of wonderful, talented players was a lot of fun. The match was Ernie and me with no strokes

Speaker 1 against Gene, Mike, and Ken. I won't tell you who won because I'm a very modest individual and you will then say I was bragging and I don't like people who brag.

Speaker 4 Thank you, sir. That was it.
Thank you, sir. Respect.
I respect the offense. Fantastic.
I need to see the match, version 3.0 of him against Kim Jong-un.

Speaker 4 I think Donnie's got some work cut out for him if he's going to get it up to 11 holes in one in a single round. But this is very funny.

Speaker 1 Objectively.

Speaker 4 Anyone should be able to look at this and being like, this rocks that a guy went out, shot a hole in one, and then issued a presidential press release telling the world that he just got a hole in one.

Speaker 1 I would do the same thing.

Speaker 1 If I was a former president and hit a hole in one, there absolutely would be a press release.

Speaker 4 It also made me think that there should be a button that they have at Twitter that allows Donald Trump, for like six hours, reinstate his account after the slap.

Speaker 1 Why six hours?

Speaker 4 I don't know, seven hours. Okay.
Just so he could riff for a little bit. I want to give him some time to collect his thoughts and breathe.

Speaker 1 Like after the slap, I would have loved to have Donald Trump on Twitter reacting to it. Yeah, just a moment.

Speaker 4 During halftime music shows at the Super Bowl, I want to hear Donald Trump be like, Dr. Dre is a disgrace.

Speaker 4 I want to let him play the hits sometimes.

Speaker 4 And this is a perfect example of why it would be good occasionally to hear him chime in on something.

Speaker 1 I actually would love to have him if Coach K wins his national championship because I'm sure he'd have like a back-handed compliment to him. It would make me feel a little bit better.
Yeah. You know?

Speaker 1 He only has slightly better hair than I do.

Speaker 4 Your favorite president.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That would be nice.
That would be nice.

Speaker 1 There was a moment this morning where there's something came out about the January 6th, and also we had like two days after the Will Smith takes, where it was like,

Speaker 1 this is back to a a hell site, where it was like, because the Will Smith discourse now is bad. Oh, yeah.
It's horrible.

Speaker 1 It was maybe an hour. I think Tom Cornelli said it the best.
It was like the nine minutes after something are hilarious, and then the two weeks after. It's just brutal, brutal.
Horrible.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of takes out there. Like, actually, Will Smith was being misogynistic when he stood up for his wife and slapped Chris Ross.

Speaker 1 It's just,

Speaker 4 it is exhausting. It's exhausting.
Dude, you're not meant to hear everybody's thoughts.

Speaker 1 Last night, I, like, for 20 minutes got, like, in it with people who still think it's fake. And I was like, what am I doing right now?

Speaker 1 The people online who think everything's fake, they could see something, something could happen to them, and they'd be like, fake.

Speaker 4 Billy. Because it's always a rush to be the first guy to say that something's fake.

Speaker 1 And you never have to actually point to anything. You just be like, it's fake.

Speaker 5 Look, this was going to be my hot seat.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 5 There's a video out of Will Smith a month ago teaching a kid how to fake slap.

Speaker 5 I don't know know if you guys see this on TMZ.

Speaker 4 He is an actor who has done movies where he's not actually hitting the other actors in the movie.

Speaker 5 But I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 You know, it looks like a guy who's been practicing slapping.

Speaker 4 So this is what Billy does sometimes. He doesn't really connect the dots.

Speaker 4 He doesn't connect the dots. He just puts a dot on a piece of paper and he's just like, there's a dot right there.
See that? Somebody could draw that line.

Speaker 1 You guys connect it.

Speaker 4 Someone could draw it. But there's a dot.

Speaker 1 I still don't get like we watched it with our eyes.

Speaker 5 It was way too clean.

Speaker 4 Like, think about fight videos and, like, people slapping other people.

Speaker 5 Like, it's never that clean.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 So, but if it had been, like, a little murkier, you would have been like, see, he didn't try to hit him really.

Speaker 1 Right. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 Or if Chris Rock had hit him back, it'd be like, oh, wow, they really wanted to sell this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no matter what, like, you can just do every iteration of how this take place and you could say it's fake.

Speaker 1 Okay. But, right? Am I, we're right, though?

Speaker 5 I'll let the sands of time

Speaker 4 wait for the facts to come out.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't they have already said that it was fake by this point?

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Will Smith apologizes.

Speaker 1 They got to sell the tickets. But why wouldn't, like, what tickets

Speaker 5 to Chris Rock's tour?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I did see some people saying that the resale value went up, and I was like, well, what does that do? Nothing for Chris Rock.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, imagine what would be going through Will Smith's mind where he's like, okay, you're about to win an Oscar for best actor. It's one of the biggest nights of your life.

Speaker 4 Let's go ruin it for a stunt that'll make Chris Rock's resale value go up for ticket match.

Speaker 1 I'd also be like, hey, Chris Rock, for your tickets, for your upcoming tour, we want Will Smith to slap you in the face and have you do nothing on live television.

Speaker 4 But also, you think Chris Rock would be cool with that?

Speaker 5 Will Smith's narrative lately has been good since the red table kind of changes that narrative when he's like, is it better?

Speaker 4 Is it better now? I'd say it's probably worse now.

Speaker 1 i fully think that it's worse it's real i've switched my stance uh from sunday night however however

Speaker 1 the there was i was it was like in it was reply reply i was reading i was reading some of the replies to your tweets bitkat so this is a reply reply guy uh answer but it was like

Speaker 1 the ratings have been bad and doing the slap guarantees him the oscar like he wants the oscar what if it's like we'll get like we'll guarantee you

Speaker 1 but they already

Speaker 4 so the guy from price waterhouse cooper or whatever is going to go backstage and he's going to change the envelope to say Will Smith because he just got up on stage and starred Chris Roddy.

Speaker 5 He already knew he was winning the Oscars.

Speaker 4 The fact that, like, think about it.

Speaker 1 Which is why he wouldn't do it.

Speaker 4 Big cat, our country is so fucking.

Speaker 1 This is crazy.

Speaker 1 I hold on to it. I believe it's real.
But it was an interesting thing. Hold on.
Also, the ratings, people, it was the second lowest ratings of all time for the Oscars.

Speaker 1 Pull out the slap. And then people are like, well, well, next year,

Speaker 1 we'll see. I guess time will tell if next year's ratings are so insanely good because of this moment that we're all going to move on from.

Speaker 5 Well, people might be watching and thinking, like, well, you know, the slap

Speaker 4 last year, something crazy.

Speaker 1 Who knows who's going to get slapped?

Speaker 4 Steve Schumer in the Spider-Man costume.

Speaker 1 Can I ask a question about the ratings? Do you think they might have wanted to do that earlier in the show if they were trying to get ratings instead of the last 25 minutes?

Speaker 1 You don't know the analytics. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, that's just certainly like half of the country was asleep.
We actually don't know how ratings are calculated at all.

Speaker 4 We're just kind of taking a stab at the department.

Speaker 1 But I'm assuming

Speaker 4 that it would would be more valuable to get more eyes on the show earlier than it would be like at the end of the show.

Speaker 5 Break the class in case of low ratings.

Speaker 1 Oh, so

Speaker 1 if there's a knee on,

Speaker 4 then the guy backstage hits the slap button. Just do this forever.
And Will Smith gets

Speaker 4 his Apple Watch starts buzzing. He's like, oh, shit, I got to go slap somebody.
Also, he was partying.

Speaker 4 I've been training for this. Good thing I showed that kid how to do it a month ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's also the answer that I got the most is when it's like

Speaker 1 conspiracy theories have ruined everyone's brains, but then people will be like, I'm sorry, i'm not a sheep that just believes everything that's forced into like down my throat it's like this is literally just a slap this has no consequences whatsoever it's not some big conspiracy that i even care about it's a slap no but i think the thing is it's fun to be the first person to say that something's fake yeah it's not really that fun to be like the two or three millionth person to be like yeah i agree that's fake right the first guy that guy has a great time he does when he can figure that out billy's looking for that rush he was on it right away I don't see him.

Speaker 4 Billy was one of the first people to think that it's fake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No one reacts to someone walking up to them with their hands in their pockets.

Speaker 4 No, I do all the time. Like if somebody that you know

Speaker 1 who's on the Oscars, it's not.

Speaker 4 My prediction is that there will be a Pepsi commercial this summer. Kendall Jenner gives them both a Pepsi and they crack it open and everything's copacetic.

Speaker 1 And people will say it's fake because they did something together. They're definitely going to do something together.
They're going to cash in. Of course they are.
They're going to cash in.

Speaker 1 At this point.

Speaker 4 That's America, baby.

Speaker 5 We should do a slap. We could cash in, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, let's do it.
Come on. Come over here, Billy.
Okay, I'll slap you. Actually, anyone who wants to slap Billy can do it at any time.
No, it's not. All the listeners.

Speaker 1 What? It's not allowed. Wait, you just said we wanted to do a slap.

Speaker 5 Well, I was saying a stage slap so we could cash in on it. I swear.

Speaker 1 This is stage. This is stage.
I'm literally telling people, go slap Billy. That's stage.

Speaker 1 That's not real. It's not real.
You can't react. Because I created it.
I did it.

Speaker 5 It was a real, like a physical real slap.

Speaker 1 Make sure you videotape.

Speaker 4 No, that's so fucked up.

Speaker 1 Don't slap it. Do not slap it.
Do not slap Billy.

Speaker 4 We will arrest you. If you slap Billy, he has permission to kill you.

Speaker 1 Yes. And also sue you.
Now I'm bring the gun around. Oh, Jesus.

Speaker 1 How quickly it escalates. God damn it.

Speaker 4 This is how Ukraine started, Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 4 I think that, yeah, stay away from Billy. It is funny, though, like, seeing a slap in the wild is exhilarating.
Yeah. And my life has been somewhat empty for the last 36 hours with no slaps.

Speaker 4 I need somebody else to get slapped. So any volunteers out there, any celebrity.
You have to be a celebrity, though. Yeah.
And it has to be an unexpected situation.

Speaker 4 But life is not the same for me after the slap.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. You have your hot seat, PFT.
I think that's where we are. I think we've jumped around a little.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so. My hot seat, I was going to say Kim Jong-un, actually, because of Donny Trump.
I'm still just so impressed with that statement. Yes.
He's a fucking hilarious guy. Yes.

Speaker 4 My hot seat, I'm just going to say my addiction. So

Speaker 4 Jake has overcome his challenge, his dragons. And I think you're...
How long are you clean now now off the nose spray, Jake?

Speaker 6 I want to say a year-ish.

Speaker 4 That's a long time. That's impressive.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I fell into

Speaker 4 the traps that Jake fell into last year. I had a cold for the last couple weeks, and I've been taking instant relief nose spray,

Speaker 4 and then I just kept using it every day.

Speaker 4 And so now it's been about three and a half weeks where every night before I go to bed, and sometimes during the day I have to take it because if I don't take it at night, my nose just completely closes up.

Speaker 4 So Jake is my sponsor right now. And Jake, I haven't used today.

Speaker 1 I haven't.

Speaker 1 I tweeted you this morning.

Speaker 4 Thank you. I'm not reminded.
Thank you. I'm taking it one day at a time.

Speaker 4 But it is actually,

Speaker 4 it is addictive. Like, your nose just stops working if you take it.

Speaker 1 You feel like God, right? Yes.

Speaker 4 Clear. That's more aggressive than what I was going to say.
But

Speaker 4 yeah, it's a perfect, it's like a perfect drug. And now I can't fall asleep without it.
So

Speaker 4 tonight is going to be the real challenge. Good luck.
So, thank you very much. Jay, congratulations, though.
That's impressive that you're a year off the hard stuff. Thank you.

Speaker 4 My brother actually saw me tweet about it, and he hit me up. He was like, Are you okay?

Speaker 1 Are you okay?

Speaker 4 And I was like, Yeah, he's like, That sounds scary.

Speaker 4 My cool throne

Speaker 4 is going to be

Speaker 4 sounds like you don't have to. Costa Rica.
Oh, there it is. Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 Are you looking at a map when you did that?

Speaker 4 No, because I had to move some, I had moved some stuff around because I realized that Donald Trump was actually on my cool throne. Got it.
And then my hot, yeah, it's old switcheroo musical chairs.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Costa Rica, because I think we were a little premature in crowning the U.S. men's national team to be dancing.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, there's a goal differential thing.

Speaker 4 So if the U.S. team loses,

Speaker 4 if they lose

Speaker 4 by six goals tonight, then they don't automatically qualify. So,

Speaker 4 as a giant U.S. men's national team soccer fan, I can admit that if they lose by six goals tonight and don't qualify, that is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 This would be very funny.

Speaker 4 I hope it doesn't happen, but it would be very, very, very funny. So, I hope either they win or they lose by six or more goals tonight.

Speaker 1 Who are they playing?

Speaker 4 Costa Rica. Costa Rica.
Because then Costa Rica would jump above us in the CONCACAF octagonal, and they would get the automatic qualification. We would play against New Zealand probably.

Speaker 1 Love it. Let's win that.
Winner-take-all. Or don't lose by six.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or just lose by six.

Speaker 1 Don't lose by six. That'd be very fun.
I'm fine with anything that happens on that one. All right.
My hot seat is Matt Ruhl.

Speaker 1 That picture, I don't, I mean, it really is like this is what happens when you have Sam Darnold as your quarterback. It's the khakis,

Speaker 1 the ill-fitting khakis, the wrinkles, the untucked shirt.

Speaker 1 Every year, one coach steals the show. You hope it's Andy Reid with a Hawaiian shirt.
Instead, it's Matt Ruhl looking like he's behind on his mortgage and everything in life sucks.

Speaker 4 Guebera's shirt. Was that what he was wearing?

Speaker 1 Like the big bowling shirt with the wide shoulders.

Speaker 4 It looked like he was... He looked like a child wearing his dad's shoulder pads on Halloween.

Speaker 1 This is a guy who spit on himself, and now this is the worst look he's had.

Speaker 1 Spitting on himself is not the worst look. It's the second worst.

Speaker 4 What's crazy is if you're running down the Matt Rule looks.

Speaker 4 The worst is this one. Second worst is spitting on himself.
And then the best look that he's ever had is when he's an adult male wearing a smock on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 That's the swaggiest he's ever appeared.

Speaker 1 When he kind of, in the right light, looks like Vincent D'Onofrio.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 like Vincent D'Anofrio from Men in Black. Right.
After he gets taken over by an alien.

Speaker 1 Right. But you're like, ooh, I could see it.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is LeBron. So investigative research by Kenny Beacham on Twitter at K-O-T-4Q.

Speaker 1 He found out here, he looked it up. And every single time the Lakers lose a game and they post the final score on Twitter, they never include a picture of LeBron.

Speaker 1 So, cool throwing LeBron, he's never been a part of a loss this year.

Speaker 4 And also, he also did the other metrics, which was every time they win a game, he gets featured. Yes, and LeBron gets featured far and away as the winning player.

Speaker 1 I absolutely think this is in his contract. Yeah, he definitely put this in his contract.
You cannot include me in any loss pictures.

Speaker 4 And in a weird way, I almost respect it.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 whatever. He's and poor Malik Monk, part of K.
He's the scapegoat. Yeah, he had he had the majority of the losses.

Speaker 4 I wonder if this goes back to his time with the Cavs.

Speaker 4 I actually don't know if teams were doing the mandatory win-loss tweet graphic at Vina Games. That's like a thing in the last two years that they got sponsored.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. I love it every single time.
All right, Bill, you already did your hot seat?

Speaker 5 Yeah, the hot seat was the video. And my cool throne is

Speaker 5 spreadsheets probably going to work out.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 5 So we're going to throw 100 on Villanova

Speaker 1 Parlay,

Speaker 5 which is going to negate a lot of their, because they're the both negatives right now. And then put 100 on Kansas Moneyline.
Actually, 100 on the future for Kansas, and we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to put some on the women's. Oh,

Speaker 1 on the women's. Jesus Christ.
So NC State, like adding to Hell Week, they lost in, I think, double overtime to UConn. And UConn, NC State was the one seed, and they had to play at UConn.

Speaker 1 In Bridgeport. It makes no fucking sense.

Speaker 4 It was a clutch shot at the end of the first overtime, though. But just

Speaker 1 brutal. It's tough.
They'll always have that. Yeah, they'll always have that.

Speaker 4 That in their 2020 College World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's. And I forgot that NC State's bowl game got canceled the day of.
Remember that against UCLA?

Speaker 6 And Spaul had the College World Series forfeit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what? Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Jake.

Speaker 2 Wait. Notesap Time.
I thought they were the best team.

Speaker 1 Notes Ap Time.

Speaker 4 Jake. Hank said that on yesterday's show, and I just said it like 30 30 seconds ago.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 9 I had NC State as my hot seat.

Speaker 1 I was ready, and I just got, oh, no. Oh, no.
Oh, Jake. Listen, it's madness.
It's Marsh Madness. But yeah, they had, I had forgotten the bowl game.

Speaker 1 Remember, because I think it was in San Diego, the holiday bowl, and they canceled it so close to kickoff that there were like people tweeting, I'm literally driving to the stadium right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do remember that. In the last 25 years, what do you think is the best thing that's happened to NC State football?

Speaker 1 You could make the argument. Philip Rivers.

Speaker 4 Well, they had a little run where they were the college of quarterbacks where you had Phillip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Jacoby Brissette.

Speaker 1 Ford Duke was Mike Lennon and Mike Lennon. Mike Lennon.
Ford Duke was Duke. NC State was a powerhouse

Speaker 1 100 years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They taught the motto and his cool sunglasses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've had a few years where they've beaten like UNC or Duke in a cool game. Julius Hodges, what do you say?

Speaker 5 By the time you listen to this, the McDonald's All-American blog should be up on Wednesday morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Arkansas got three of them. Did that trigger you a little with Eric Musselman when he had that picture?

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, huge trigging. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Really set off the bad.

Speaker 1 Eric Musselman had three,

Speaker 1 I think it was McMuffins on his desk because they had just signed three McDonald's All-Americans, which is crazy.

Speaker 5 The yellow rappers, I can't really get over anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, welcome back.

Speaker 7 The hot seat is me, I guess.

Speaker 7 I had this tweet pulled off for my NC State on the hot seat.

Speaker 6 It was the the three bullet points. That was the point.
Baseball, COVID forfeit, football, canceled, women's, loses, tough game.

Speaker 4 It was a tough game. I think I like Stanford now.

Speaker 4 I just like rooting for the tree every now and again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We could have an all-Cardinal final.

Speaker 1 I saw in UConn, what is that? Like 15 years in a row, they've been?

Speaker 7 22 out of 37 years for Gino going to the final four.

Speaker 4 Jesus Christ. Insane.

Speaker 7 I have two cool thrones to redeem myself.

Speaker 4 One

Speaker 6 is Albert Pujols.

Speaker 7 He announced a retirement tour, returning to the Cardinals. Yes, retirement tours are cool.

Speaker 1 Well, it's even more nauseating because he's doing this so that he and Yachty can retire at the same time and go into Cooperstown at the same time. So, puke everyone.

Speaker 7 You guys have never said bad things about retirement tours.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 all my enemies are doing retirement tours. Yeah.
And then Seth Rogers, who I really want to do.

Speaker 7 Also, the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Yes. Hard Knocks.
Hard Knocks.

Speaker 7 2022.

Speaker 1 Could possibly save the franchise. And then everyone replied, the Colts in season was really cool, which it was, but it was in season.

Speaker 1 And I'd like hard knocks, true hard knocks, is the appetizer for the football season that gets you excited.

Speaker 4 They should not call the in-season hard knocks hard knocks.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 4 It should be something

Speaker 1 altogether. Yeah, because it is cool.
It is cool.

Speaker 4 We love hard knocks, and I think having Dan Campbell and hard knocks should be, at the very least, exciting.

Speaker 1 And Jared.

Speaker 4 And you got Jared. You've got, I think, Mark Brunel is their quarterback coach now.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think I heard that from somebody. But they've got a fun team that's set up to maybe do something this year.

Speaker 4 And obviously, Dan Campbell factor, that's going to be Must C T V, so I'm pumped about that.

Speaker 1 Mark Brunel, quarterback coach.

Speaker 7 To correct myself from earlier, Danny Willett won the Masters in 2016. That was his only PGA Tor win.

Speaker 1 Ah, I remember Danny Willett.

Speaker 4 That was a Jordan Smith choke job.

Speaker 1 It was a bit more. Okay, so that's probably it right now.

Speaker 4 That was maybe episode three or four of part of my take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Danny Willett. Okay.
Makes good answer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was like right at the start.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I'll still do notes off if you guys want, but yeah, I the

Speaker 1 okay. Will it make sense? Will it make sense? Yeah, so sorry for Mike Weir.

Speaker 7 Sorry for the double NC state thing.

Speaker 1 Um, all right, let's get to our interviews. We got Buzz Williams and then we got uh Trent Brown coming up.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program. Haven't seen him in, I don't know, three, four years now.
It is Coach Buzz Williams from Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 1 Last time we had him on, different school.

Speaker 1 I wanted to give you a compliment to start. Thanks.
And you don't know what the compliment is yet.

Speaker 2 It's rare that I get one. So whatever you say is that.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So you know last time we had you on. We came to your facility.
We did a video. It was very, very early.

Speaker 1 This is not as early. It's 10.30 in the morning on a Monday, but for us, getting up on a Monday and getting in by 10 o'clock, 10.30, we don't do it for just anyone.

Speaker 1 So I want you to know that like this is,

Speaker 1 if you look around the room, we've all been up a little late and we're here because we love you.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much. I love you guys.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry you had to start your week a little earlier than normal. Yeah.
10.30 is late. It is.

Speaker 1 On a Monday, it's early. It's true.

Speaker 4 For us, it is. I think typically we're about, I don't know, four hours ahead of schedule.
But the last time that we did see you was in Blacksburg. Yep.
And we came to your gym at, I think it was

Speaker 1 6 a.m.

Speaker 4 I don't even know what that word means when I say 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 It's like not in my vocabulary.

Speaker 2 I still have pictures from it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you put us through the ring early in a real quick workout.

Speaker 2 Kate was the best player.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was going to be my question. It's like, if you were to rank us from best to worst, you'd still have Kate number one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think Kate is for sure number one. I don't know that any of the rest of you would be worthy of being on a list.

Speaker 1 Kate would be one. Yeah, definitely.
Kate would be one. That was a great video and very fun that you did that with us.
So you're here, NIT.

Speaker 1 So we're going to run this on Wednesday. So hopefully you're still in it.

Speaker 2 That would be great if we are.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The question I always wonder about the NIT, obviously, you guys have a great run in the SEC tournament.

Speaker 1 Disappointment not getting to the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of argument back and forth.

Speaker 1 If you win the NIT, is that a little vindication? Like, hey, we really should have been part of it. Is that the motivation behind this run?

Speaker 2 Yeah, obviously, I said what I said, and I haven't spoken on it again because I said

Speaker 2 what I believe needed to be said relative to our players and their parents and our institution.

Speaker 2 And the one thing that I've learned, Biquette, it's only the second time that I have participated in the NIT.

Speaker 2 Actually,

Speaker 2 only one time did we do it at Virginia Tech. It was our second year there.

Speaker 2 Never have advanced to the Final Four.

Speaker 2 I think every team probably has a little different motivation.

Speaker 2 in the NIT.

Speaker 2 Is your team young? Has your team ever experienced postseason? Does your team really understand the difference between the NIT and the NCAA?

Speaker 2 Did they feel like they should have been in the NCAA?

Speaker 2 Are they grateful to be in the NIT? You know, there's a different vibe.

Speaker 2 And I think the vibe for us relative to our program, it has changed over the three weeks that we've actually participated in the NIT. And a lot of those lessons you don't know prior to the first game.

Speaker 2 You know, we played in the SEC championship game on a Sunday afternoon. Obviously, it's the championship game, so it's the only game left to be played in Tampa.

Speaker 2 And you have to tell the plane when you're going to leave. Well, how are we going to handle this? We don't want to stay in the arena three more hours until the selection show.

Speaker 2 So let's just go back to the hotel and rent the rooms for another night, even though we're not going to stay another night.

Speaker 2 And then you're wondering, without ever saying it, are we playing in the NCAA tournament? Are we going to leave Tampa and go to Dayton because we're playing in the first four and we barely got in?

Speaker 2 Are we not going to the NCAA tournament? Whatever transpires, what is it as the head coach that I'm going to say to our guys?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we start the game against Tennessee down 15-2 and end up losing 15. It was our fourth game in four days.

Speaker 2 We go back to the hotel and I say, guys, why don't you shower and change and go ahead and put your stuff on the bus and i'll see you guys in what we had been using as our team room and we'll watch the selection show

Speaker 2 it's the first time uh in our tenure at texas am this is our third season obviously year one there wasn't a selection show uh and we were awful last season So it was our first experience as a program watching the selection show.

Speaker 2 Here comes bracket one and a commercial, bracket two and a commercial, bracket three and a commercial.

Speaker 2 And, you know, every kid is kind of on a different level in their understanding of like, what is this? They all act like they understand. They don't know.
Right. Not all of them.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 And so when the last bracket popped up and we're not playing,

Speaker 2 I honestly didn't know what to say. And I didn't have anything to say.
And so I said, guys, get on the bus.

Speaker 2 And so we left the banquet room.

Speaker 2 Down the escalator, down the elevator, to the bus, to the FBO.

Speaker 2 Got home at midnight that night. Well, the NIT selection show happened while we were on the plane.
So I didn't, I anticipated we were going to go to the NIT,

Speaker 2 but I also anticipated we were going to go to the NCAA.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 we land, take the bus back to the office, and we call it Team Bus One. The people that are on Team Bus One, everybody go in my office, and we printed out the bracket.

Speaker 2 And I said, guys, we're taking tomorrow off. Well, our first game was Tuesday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the next. It was that fast.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and so, you know, I think as it has unfolded, the things that we've learned and the fun that we've had and the experience that can never be taken away from our guys, this is the first time Texas AM basketball has played in the NIT seven times, and obviously they have never been to New York.

Speaker 2 So a lot of what's transpiring is historical, and we're grateful for that. And hopefully, when this is released on Wednesday, hopefully the Aggies are still playing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and this is probably something that you can build off of.

Speaker 4 I don't know what the stats are on it, but a team that does well in the NIT, I would imagine, kind of carries a little bit of that momentum into the following season, right?

Speaker 2 We're one of the younger teams in the country and even younger relative to experience with one another.

Speaker 2 Obviously, those numbers have changed together over the last 38 games, and that's been really good stuff.

Speaker 2 But there's so many young guys on our team. There's only one guy that for sure is not returning.
I know in this day and age, that doesn't mean everybody's coming back.

Speaker 2 But yeah,

Speaker 2 the practices, the film session, the camaraderie, the experience, the actual games, playing against teams in Power Five Leagues that you haven't had an opportunity to play.

Speaker 2 Our administration, Ross Bjork, RAD, made a decision to let the NIT games be for free. So the environment at Reed Arena has been tremendous in our three games there.
So there's a lot of good things.

Speaker 2 Obviously, it's almost Easter, you know, and we're still playing. There's only eight teams still playing.

Speaker 2 So we haven't taken a break, but I do think when we're able to finish the season, hopefully we finish with a win.

Speaker 2 There's so much that we can build on for sure.

Speaker 1 I also think like the NIT

Speaker 1 and the CBI, all these tournaments, they're fun just because if you've ever been part of a team, you know that like that last time when it's like, hey, this is now changing.

Speaker 1 We're not playing together anymore is brutal. So to have that stretch where it's like, hey, we can still do this.
We're spending time together. We're, we're, you know, bonding together.

Speaker 1 No matter what, even if it's a young team, next year's team is going to be different somehow. It always will be.

Speaker 2 The one thing that transpires that kids figure out almost, it's almost like osmosis. They begin to figure it out, and it happens at different points in times.
And it's happened with this team.

Speaker 2 Our team wants to win.

Speaker 2 Every team wants to win. But there is an intangible quotient of

Speaker 2 our team just wants to continue to be together. So part of the reason why they want to win is they know, okay, tomorrow we're doing film.
Tomorrow we're lifting weights. Tomorrow we have practice.

Speaker 2 Tomorrow we're traveling. Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 They want that to keep going. Right.
And there's something about like, we're fighting for one another. We're fighting because we want to win.

Speaker 2 But the the ego part of winning, it's really not the ego of look at me. It's like, no, we want to stay together.

Speaker 2 And they're wise enough, regardless of their age, to go, as soon as the horn sounds and we lose,

Speaker 2 that's the swan song. That's it.
And I think that they have.

Speaker 2 Played like that at a competitive level even since we got to Tampa.

Speaker 2 When it's, you know, lose and go home and survive and advance, whatever the thing every other coach says, our guys don't use those words.

Speaker 2 I don't use those words, but they want to keep playing so that we can continue to work. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Are you guys the hottest team in college basketball right now?

Speaker 2 You would have to do some study on it. We've won 12 out of our last 14.

Speaker 2 We lost at Vanderbilt

Speaker 2 and then we lost to Tennessee.

Speaker 2 Obviously, Tennessee was in the championship game, and then we lost at Vanderbilt by six

Speaker 2 in that stretch of 14 games.

Speaker 2 You know, the one thing that I told our team, like Washington State, Washington State won four out of their last five regular season games.

Speaker 2 They won one and lost the second one in the Pac-12 tournament, and then they've won three. So they've won eight out of ten.
We won four out of our last five.

Speaker 2 We won three out of four in the SEC tournament, and then obviously we've won three. If you were to rewind,

Speaker 2 I think PFT, it would be the game after Valentine's Day we played at Vanderbilt. So since Valentine's Day through

Speaker 2 today,

Speaker 2 we've lost two games, the SEC Championship and then at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 4 It's not bad. And I think you've got to take it, you know, look at the situation that you're in right now, and you can't control where you're at right now.

Speaker 4 You can just, you know, control what you're going to do. That's right.

Speaker 4 But there's some silver lining to it in that you're able to put together a nice little run. You're able to keep these guys together.
A lot of them, it sounds like, will be coming back next next year.

Speaker 1 That's right. And on one hand,

Speaker 4 it's almost like this is a better outcome for what you're building on than if you had gotten to the tournament and lost in like the second round. You know, the team's still together.

Speaker 4 They're experiencing success in a tournament.

Speaker 4 I feel like that's a pretty good position to be in. After you get over the anger and frustration of not being invited to the NCAA tournament, I think that

Speaker 4 you can look at the silver line in this and make a pretty good case that you're better off right now than you would have been had you gotten bounced early.

Speaker 2 I don't disagree with that at all. We've won 26 games.

Speaker 2 We've lost 12. Obviously, we have been playing at a very high level and have been successful.

Speaker 2 And I think that's one of the things similar to what we were talking about earlier.

Speaker 2 Your initial response and your reasoning for wanting to compete in the NIT, it morphs, it changes, it evolves, and you notice it in different ways relative to the relationship as a head coach you have with each of your players.

Speaker 2 And one of our freshmen who is completely into ball and knows what's going on in recruiting and knows about this coach and knows about this player. And this kid's name is in the portal.

Speaker 2 Coach, we need to recruit him. Coach, what about this? Like he's going to grow up and be a coach.
And

Speaker 2 we win the first game, and we play Oregon a morning game because TV's dictating when we play based on when the NCAA tournament games are. So we play Oregon at whatever time.
It's like noon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like 11 a.m.

Speaker 2 It's like 11 a.m.

Speaker 1 I remember that game.

Speaker 2 The kid is texting me that evening, and he's like, Coach, did you watch this game? Did you watch that game? He's talking about NCAA tournament games. And I'm like, no, I'm watching Wake Forest.

Speaker 2 I'm watching Wake Forest and VCU right now. We're going to play the winner.

Speaker 2 I kind of know what's happening in the NCAA tournament. We're playing in a different one.
And he's like, coach, we're still playing.

Speaker 2 And it kind of hit me like he was beginning to see the silver lining. Like you said, this kid, he's going home.
That guy, his season's over. We're still playing.

Speaker 2 Yes, we want to play in the NCAA tournament, but there is some residual positive value that you discover, particularly, I think, and I don't say this arrogantly, particularly if you're able to get all the way to New York.

Speaker 2 Right. Because like you're saying, hey, we played in the NIT and we got beat on Tuesday night after selection Sunday.
Okay, well, that didn't last long, but it's similar to what you're saying.

Speaker 2 We played all the way until selection Sunday. If we played that early game Thursday morning in the NCAA tournament and you lose, you're home Thursday night.
Yeah. And now it's over.

Speaker 2 And so I do think that we've had time to process all of that. And I do think there's some wisdom that comes from the experience we've been able to be a part of over the last 20 days.

Speaker 1 So in your run in the SEC tournament, I don't know if you saw, but I clipped your speech after one of the games. I think it was after the Saturday game when you beat Auburn.

Speaker 1 You talked about how every day you give your team a red pill. And I mentioned that, did you know the connotations of that online when you did that?

Speaker 1 Because it was very funny to me because the blue pill, red pill has become like a terrible argument online about politics.

Speaker 1 And then you showed up on a Saturday afternoon in March being like, I'm just waking up, I'm giving my whole team the red pill. And I was like, fuck yes, Buzz.
Yeah, I, uh,

Speaker 1 he's like, he has no idea what this means online, but I love it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I think that that's a microcosm of what a very narrow lane I live in.

Speaker 1 I know. Because

Speaker 2 I can't remember who mentioned it to me. It may have been C-voss like four days later.
Because we had another...

Speaker 1 Yeah, you played it.

Speaker 2 We played Auburn, then we played Arkansas, then we played Tennessee, and it was like Groundhog Day every day at Tampa.

Speaker 1 And so anyway...

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 basically two days later, I'm giving the statement to the world on

Speaker 2 I don't agree with what transpired. So I haven't been the most liked, nor have I ever been the most liked coach.

Speaker 2 But Civas said, coach, you remember when you were talking, I love Damian Fishback, the kid that played at Auburn for Cliff Ellis, who's the oldest coach next to Jim Bay. I'm still coaching.

Speaker 2 And so I've always really liked him because I think he knows what's going on. I think he knows how to talk to coaches.
He's not so opinionated that you can't visit with him.

Speaker 2 And he, his question, I thought was right.

Speaker 2 And I made mention of

Speaker 2 what is the actor's name, Lawrence Fishburne,

Speaker 2 and Keanu Reeves and the Matrix. And we do quote shirts.
I know you had, I gave you some when you guys came to Blacksburg. We do 12 a year.

Speaker 2 And the red pill from the movie, and that's how I spoke on the lesson, was you have to be willing to receive the truth.

Speaker 2 And we've talked about the red pill maybe 300 times this season.

Speaker 2 Not only do you have to receive the red pill, but you have to be willing to administer it. And I can't be the only doctor of the red pill.
I need to be a patient of the red pill.

Speaker 2 You guys need to tell me the red pill.

Speaker 2 And you need to tell one another. And so, like, if you say say red pill within our program, that's all we know.

Speaker 2 And then when C Vas was mentioning what the other groups deemed the red pill, I'm like, Civas, man, tell Big Cat. You know, I have no

Speaker 1 concept what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 I'm not personally that you were launching an attack against the deep state.

Speaker 1 I thought you were basically saying that, you know, we as incels have to stand up for our rights. No, that's black pill.
Oh, that's black pill. Do that next year.
Yeah, black pillar.

Speaker 2 Anything in that realm, you guys know, like I'm

Speaker 1 remotely. That was the best part about it because you mentioned it.
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 And I knew like your message was a perfect message for your team because the idea is like you need to speak hard truths to your players every day. That's right.

Speaker 1 But I'm just sitting there laughing because I'm like. Coach does not go online.
Like he has no idea what he's saying right now in the greater scheme of online discourse.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I have no concept about anything like that.

Speaker 1 Just almost

Speaker 2 living an alternate reality.

Speaker 2 I mean, you guys know that. You guys talk to enough coaches.
And I think that's why coaches love you guys. They kind of feel like they can be themselves and not have to put on airs and such.

Speaker 2 And like in our world, there's very few people that you can talk to

Speaker 2 of the magnitude and the platform that you guys have where a coach feels like he can be himself. And I think that's why coaches think the world of you guys.

Speaker 2 But like, yeah, man, I had no idea when he was reading. He was saying, Coach, you know, on the internet, I'm like, See, Vas, first of all, if you're talking about the internet, I'm out.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't even have a computer.

Speaker 2 I don't check my email. Like, I don't even know how to check my email.
So, like, yeah, I'm not in that.

Speaker 4 Well, that's why we love coaches too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they do live in their own world.

Speaker 4 They're so locked in and they live, breathe, eat this stuff. And we find, like, that's, it's almost beautiful that there are people out there that it really doesn't just end at coaching.

Speaker 4 If somebody's just really into whatever their craft is and singularly focused, that type of person is very fascinating to me and somebody that I think people can learn from.

Speaker 4 So, so you, when you, when you go about your day, what percentage of the hours that you're awake are you thinking about basketball?

Speaker 1 Good question. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's very high. Um,

Speaker 2 I, I, um, I read a lot, I study a lot,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 and I try to give my first hour of the day to non-basketball related. I'm just trying to feed my brain.

Speaker 4 You're offering to the world of one hour a day of not thinking about basketball.

Speaker 1 What is like the, you're reading like message boards and stuff?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I literally don't use a computer.

Speaker 2 I read.

Speaker 2 I read four books at a time and I read one book per week. And I've done that for years.

Speaker 1 How if you read four books at a time, I would get confused.

Speaker 4 I would get mixed up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I read. Yeah, it's a little complicated, but I read one in the morning when I'm talking about the one hour I study.
And then I read one when I calm down after I've planned practice.

Speaker 2 I just kind of sit for 30 minutes and kind of make sure that what I have planned along with the staff is right. So I read.

Speaker 2 And then I read when practice is over to kind of think through practice. and make sure we did the right things and what we need to do the next time.
And then I read at night before I go to bed.

Speaker 2 The first three are to learn from. The last one is in hopes that it'll help put me to sleep.
But I've been doing that for years.

Speaker 2 I mean, I could show you every book I've read every week for however many years you would want to know. And then I take notes on each book.
And so if you said, hey, Buzz, I read...

Speaker 2 I read this book. Have you read it?

Speaker 2 I could look at my filter and i could say yeah i've read it i'll send you my notes on it i think you just invented spark notes yeah i i know what that is and people have told me about it i don't know that i would know how to use it but yes it's my version of it so spark notes when you're taking notes about your books are you are you recapping what you've read to lock it in or are you like writing down your personal reaction to what you've read both what what i'm learning how does it translate to what i need and then what is it that ignited a thought from what i was reading on what I'm currently doing and how to do it better?

Speaker 2 So, it's like if you looked at my notes on that book, 80% of it, you would go, yeah, this came from the book, and this must have been what Buzz was thinking when he was reading the book.

Speaker 2 And it's kind of the same thing, like if you look in the book, the young lady that does all of my notes, you know, I'll think of a play while I'm reading and just go to the back and just draw the play.

Speaker 2 And then she's, you know, she puts it on fast draw, and that's it's part of my book notes. But I've been doing that for a long, long time.

Speaker 2 That's one of the gifts that I give to friends that I have that I write every month are my book notes from the month.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I was going to ask about that because the first time we had you on the show, I think what really made us like you a lot is the story of how you got your first job coaching and how you just would write notes.

Speaker 4 You would write these letters all the time to the point where a lady on campus had you hooked up with like free postage. That's correct.

Speaker 2 Multiple ladies, yes, sir. So

Speaker 4 are you still writing these notes? Is it like a follow-up thing that you're doing right now? How big is your correspondence network?

Speaker 2 Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 2 If you looked at my calendar,

Speaker 2 right now, this is my 15th year as a head coach.

Speaker 2 That daily discipline is write, call, email, text. So if you looked at my calendar, there's nine disciplines per day that I do.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have a quiet time for one hour every morning. I'm going to read one book a week.
So on Sunday, it says one of the boxes is one book. But each day there's a box that says three times 25.

Speaker 2 I'm going to read 25 pages from three different books. WCET, right? Call email text.
So if you turned the month of March over and looked at the back of my calendar, there would be 120 names.

Speaker 2 60 of those names are for me to learn from. 30 of those names are specific to Texas A AM.
The president, the chancellor, the AD, the deputy AD, the largest donor,

Speaker 2 etc.

Speaker 2 And then there's 30 that are connected to basketball. So those are my 120, and I rotate that list 10% every month.
So there's 120 people on the list.

Speaker 2 12 are going to fall off, and a new 12 are going to come on for April. And so that's 120 people that I'm going to, in essence, write a handwritten note to.

Speaker 2 And then every day, seven days a week, every day of the year, I write two thank you notes. And it can't be basketball specific.

Speaker 2 So I have a manager that will read the Texas A ⁇ M paper, the local paper.

Speaker 2 Here is

Speaker 2 John Smith, and he just worked and developed.

Speaker 2 whatever thing and he got a grant. And so I would write John Smith at Texas AM a note: hey, I just heard about you receiving your grant.
Congratulations for all the work.

Speaker 2 And then the same thing within Brazos County.

Speaker 2 That's the county that Texas AM is in, obviously.

Speaker 2 So-and-so

Speaker 2 just saved someone from a car accident and pulled them out at the scene. Find, you know, the manager, hey, hustle up and find out who that person is, what their name is, what their address is.

Speaker 2 I'm going to write them a note.

Speaker 2 So I write uh

Speaker 2 120

Speaker 2 people 60 are to develop a relationship with 30 are the people that in essence i work for and 30 are connected to the game of basketball regardless of where i'm employed that's 120 and then i write two thank you notes every single day so that's 60 so it's 180 notes that i write every month now don't take this the wrong way but you're crazy yes sir i have a lot of problems but but

Speaker 1 saying that out loud yeah and i mean that in a good way because you're doing crazy for good like it's it's incredible what you're doing but even talking about reaching out to random people that's that's awesome we need more of that in the world but you are crazy yeah well that that it's like it's the red pill though it's just accepting of that

Speaker 2 and and our players say the same thing coach you coach you got a lot of problems yes sir i i understood that but i told you that when i was recruiting yeah he's using your problems for good too yeah that's right

Speaker 1 We got to harness your power

Speaker 1 in a hyper-focused way where you're just a note-writing machine. Yeah, but

Speaker 2 it doesn't change.

Speaker 2 I don't mean this in a condescending way. It's like,

Speaker 2 how do you read a book a week?

Speaker 2 It's just my habit. Right.
I've been doing it for a long, long time. I was doing it before I was doing podcasts.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Well, where do you find time to write so many thank you notes?

Speaker 2 I was doing that like long before I was appointed a head coach anywhere. So it's not

Speaker 2 like my wife, obviously, I've been married almost 22 years now, and we dated for a couple of years before that. And so she met me when I was a division two assistant.

Speaker 2 And so, like, as our life has unfolded, we have four kids. My two sons know

Speaker 2 my two sons are more excited that I'm here than I am. Like, they know everything about you guys.
They've listened to every podcast. They know who these people are.
I don't know anything.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Like, I know the last time I saw you guys in Blacksburg. That's what I know.

Speaker 2 But my point is, is

Speaker 2 some of what is being revealed publicly now,

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 1 I'm...

Speaker 2 I am administering the red pill. I'm telling the truth, but I'm not administering the red pill.
So everybody goes, wow, look at Buzz. Actually, not at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's authentic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was doing that long before I met you guys at Virginia Tech, long before I was at Marquette. Like that stuff is just, that has,

Speaker 2 that's a part of my life. Yeah.
And that helps keep me grounded. I want to write thank you notes.
It keeps my heart in the right place. I want to learn.
I want to read. I want to study.

Speaker 2 It's the only way I can

Speaker 2 be malleable enough to keep up with the pace of this business, the pace of this world. I don't, you guys know about the changes in college athletics, specifically over the last year and a half.

Speaker 2 I'm sure you've had conversations with coaches. Over the next five years, there will be more changes in college athletics.
than any previous 10-year period.

Speaker 2 And it's because of the ability to to not be able to adjust. And so I don't want to become so comfortable, buzz.
You do not have to write 120 people a month.

Speaker 1 I completely understand.

Speaker 2 I actually agree, but that's even more reason why I want to do it.

Speaker 4 It's who you are at this point. That's right.
You don't want, yeah, you don't want to stop being who you are. That's right.

Speaker 4 Because being who you are has gotten you to this place where you are right now. That's pretty damn good.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 Do you ever write a thank you note to yourself?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I'll make it.

Speaker 4 Thanks, guys, for continuing to write thank you notes.

Speaker 2 That's a tradition within our program. If we

Speaker 2 spend the night at a hotel,

Speaker 2 we're going to be at a locally owned gym the next morning for the Get Better group. And then the night prior to the game, which typically speaking is the night that we're there,

Speaker 2 everybody on Team Bus One has to write a thank you note. And you cannot write a thank you note to anyone that you have previously wrote a thank you note to.

Speaker 2 So, you know, you tell the kid, hey, write a thank you note. The first person they're going to write is their mom.

Speaker 2 The second person they're going to write is their grandma. The third person they're going to write is their aunt.
The fourth person is if there is a male figure in their life.

Speaker 2 But when you get to like number five or six, they don't know who to write.

Speaker 2 Most of them have never written a thank you note they don't know how to address the envelope literally they don't know how to address the envelope they don't know the person's address they don't know how to write a thank you note where does the date go where do i write my name where do i write their name and so that has been a tradition for i guess 15 years now if we spend the night in a hotel before you eat the dinner, you have to write a thank you note.

Speaker 2 So I don't know what time we eat tonight. It's Monday.

Speaker 2 We're going to eat tonight at 8 o'clock. As soon as everybody on Team Bus walks in, there's the people that have cooked our meal.

Speaker 2 There's not one person that will even touch the food. You have to write a thank you note, and

Speaker 2 that's the ticket to eat. Write a thank you note, and then you give it to the person that collects the thank you notes.
And so

Speaker 1 I love it because it is like that is something that has lost just the gratitude and just going the extra mile of saying like thank you to people in your life.

Speaker 1 Because we lose it day to day and we don't take those moments so i'm influencing

Speaker 2 you start doing it and what ends up happening this is me and how this started was i read a book it was one of my books and uh the guy started at the bottom worked his way up became a ceo

Speaker 2 was doing everything had everything

Speaker 2 materialistically did all the right things

Speaker 2 and then lost everything

Speaker 2 lost everything

Speaker 2 materialistically lost his wife lost his children lost lost his relationships, lost his job, and ends up in some little one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 2 And he goes through multiple issues of substance abuse and on the back side of it, realized that on his way up,

Speaker 2 his heart was never in the right place. So when he got to the top, his heart was still not in the right place.

Speaker 2 And while he was at the top, because his heart was not in the right place, he couldn't lead. And you can't be authentic as a leader if your heart is in the wrong place.

Speaker 2 And it's like I tell our players all the time, true love

Speaker 2 doesn't have an agenda. If there's an agenda as a leader, I love Big Cat because it's the most listened to podcast.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, then I want to be on pardon my take.

Speaker 2 But the reason I like you guys, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 And like I tell Sivas, Sivas, I don't really want to know because then it's going to interrupt my juju with these guys. Like, that's Big Cat.
That's PFT. Is Kate going to be there?

Speaker 2 And they're like, Coach, she's not on the podcast. I'm like, well, I didn't know.
Last time I saw her, she was in the gym.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 1 you walked up to her just when you walked in. And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, I don't, I know that sounds strange, but it's not strange in my brain.

Speaker 1 No, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're trying to live as authentically as possible, which is probably pretty tough to do in a position like you have.

Speaker 2 It's so, it's so, and I tell our players all the time: you know, you hear people say, you know, you got to tighten your circle.

Speaker 2 I don't think that that's the right words. Your circle has to become a dot.

Speaker 2 And people think, and I've lived it, man, I'm an assistant coach, and I'm trying real hard, and I'm getting to know this person.

Speaker 2 I'm meeting this guy, and I'm learning this, and I know this recruit, and I met this AD, and I met this search firm, and I met this agent, and this and that.

Speaker 2 And you get to moving and moving and moving and moving. And then all of a sudden, when you, quote, make it,

Speaker 2 are you prepared?

Speaker 2 Because then once you get there, if you don't know how to lead, it's like I tell our players, I do not want to recruit you. If when I ask,

Speaker 2 what is your biggest dream?

Speaker 2 If you tell me your biggest dream is to make the NBA, I do not want you to come play for us.

Speaker 2 That is so limited. That is so shallow.
I want to make the NBA.

Speaker 2 I understand how hard it is. I know there's only 450.
I know the numbers of it, the math of it, way better than I could articulate.

Speaker 2 But if that's what you're telling me your dream is, I don't want you to come play

Speaker 2 with us because we go about this every day like this is your dream. You are living your dream.
And if your dream is just to make it, then you won't make it in how we go about it every day.

Speaker 2 You not only want to make it, hey, coach, I want to be a top 50, first, top 50 ever, first ballot Hall of Famer and get to my fourth contract. Okay, now let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 Now, let's rewind from there on how, let's break it down. Let's live life backwards.
Now, how long are you going to be able to play to get to your fourth contract?

Speaker 2 You're going to need to play 15 years. Do you know the percentage of guys that play 15 years? Let's start studying this, and now it'll give us a lens on how we're going to get there.

Speaker 2 But so many people, it's, it's,

Speaker 1 how many people want to be you now?

Speaker 4 Well, I feel like if your goal is to make the NBA, uh, anytime you have a goal like that, that has a finish line that is at such a young age or so early on, like you just check off that box.

Speaker 4 Once you get there, you're like, made the NBA.

Speaker 1 And it's a wrap. We're done here.

Speaker 4 And yeah, you could probably get paid a ton of money, have a good couple years.

Speaker 2 And then that's it.

Speaker 1 And then it's over.

Speaker 4 But then what do you do after that? That's exactly right. What's your dream, Coach?

Speaker 2 I want to be famous

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 2 my

Speaker 1 home.

Speaker 1 I want

Speaker 2 to be my wife's best friend.

Speaker 1 I want

Speaker 2 to be the dad and husband that my boys look at and go, man, if I could do that every day,

Speaker 2 That would be a great life.

Speaker 2 And I want my girls to grow up and go, I love that my dad treats my mom like that. And that's the kind of husband that I want to marry.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I know that the perception, PFT, of who I am

Speaker 2 and the reality of who I am,

Speaker 2 it's diametrically opposed. And I used to, similar to what we're talking about,

Speaker 2 I'm in my late 40s now. In my early 40s, I constantly fought that.
I fought it internally. I fought it externally.
And now as I approach my late 40s, I give no emotion to that.

Speaker 2 I give no energy to that. And I try to spend my emotion

Speaker 2 thinking about

Speaker 2 if

Speaker 2 I'm 49 and this is the last year of buzz number four.

Speaker 2 That That means buzz number five is about to begin. And so in my 49th year, I've done four things every single day to prepare for when I'm 50.

Speaker 2 And one of those things is, is I write my children every day they go to school. And I want to do that.

Speaker 2 And I'm doing it every single day that they go to school when I'm 49 as one of the four things I'm doing in preparation for buzz number five.

Speaker 2 But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 When you get to 49, you look back at 40, you look back at 41. I probably met you guys when I was 43.

Speaker 2 And I look back at when I was 43 when we did the first podcast. And I think about, I don't even remember what I said, but I know it was about, I was writing 425 coaches every day, every week.

Speaker 2 But the best version of yourself,

Speaker 2 You remember was your first version. You weren't scared of anything.
When somebody told you when you were eight and they say, hey, Big Cat, what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 Big Cat said, I'm going to be the starting quarterback for the Wisconsin Badgers.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be the starting quarterback for the Wisconsin Badgers. That's what somebody, when they ask him when he was eight.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you have no fear in your first version of yourself.

Speaker 2 And now as I'm going into my fifth version, instead of actually thinking about who I'm going to be buzz number five, I'm really trying to think about who does Buzz number six want to be?

Speaker 2 Because if I can have enough wisdom to think about who Buzz number six wants to be, then I'll be even better in Buzz Number Five. And so when you ask me, what's my dream?

Speaker 2 My dream is, is when I get to Buzz Six, and I hope and pray that I get to Buzz Six, that means in Buzz Five,

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 2 all four of my kids, I hope, will have graduated high school, graduated college. Some Some of them are probably married.
Some of them probably have had children.

Speaker 2 And that's, to me, that's buzz number five. That's buzz number six.
And to me, that's what this all should be. And so if I'm famous in my own home, that probably means I'm doing okay outside my home.

Speaker 1 Okay, hypothetical, buzz number five goes to how many final fours?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know, honestly, Big Cat, how much longer I'll coach.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 Buzz number five is going to do something different i don't i don't know uh you think buzz six would regret what buzz five did if he retired early that's what my wife says yeah that's what my wife says my wife buzz seven my wife says you talk about it and you act like it but you you you wake up at four where are you gonna go yeah i mean that's a good that's a fair point you should be like where are you physically going to be and so i've told her

Speaker 2 we can build a gym we can build a gym i can build an office in the gym we can like have members like a normal normal health club, and then I can kind of run the health club and we can put the memorabilia around in my office.

Speaker 2 It'll be a place that I can go every day.

Speaker 4 You talk about building your own basketball team.

Speaker 1 You just want to work at a planet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just like Planet Fitness. Yeah, just like Planet Fitness.

Speaker 1 Get a couple of good racks in there. But we can let you do the lunk alarm or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 She's like, yeah, that'll last like two weeks.

Speaker 2 And then we'll have to move because you're going to want another job.

Speaker 4 What you do is you, inside your Planet Fitness, you would put up two basketball hoops so that kids could play there.

Speaker 1 Then you'd start watching them. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you'd start putting them into teams.

Speaker 1 Hey, we developed every Get Better gym we go to,

Speaker 2 Josh, you guys know Josh. Josh videos the entire gym.

Speaker 1 All of it.

Speaker 2 The office, the equipment, the layout, everywhere we go with our program, when we go to a Get Better, he sends it to me. I save it.

Speaker 2 And then when I get home, I show it to Corey and go, I want, when you build our gym, I want that right there. We need that in there.
And she's like, sweetheart, this is like fairy tale land.

Speaker 2 I'm like, okay, well, just participate in the conversation.

Speaker 4 One thing I'm trying to get better at since watching Ted Lasso did my brain a lot of good is trying to learn how to be curious and not judgmental, right?

Speaker 4 So one thing I've always been judgmental about in the past is the yellow leaders at AM. That's a real tough one for me to get over.
So I'm trying to be curious about them.

Speaker 4 What's their deal? What's going on there?

Speaker 2 Yeah, obviously that's a tradition at AM, and I probably should have a better education than I do. The one thing that I would say on the Yell leaders this year, the leader of the Yell leaders

Speaker 2 has gotten to know all of our players, and all of our players have gotten to know him.

Speaker 2 And there's four or five guys on our team that literally know all of the words and all of the signals for every Yell. It's really cute and fun to watch our guys do it.
And so the leader this year,

Speaker 2 Ross hired, I think, an absolute all-star to replace a legend earlier this week.

Speaker 2 Hired Joni Taylor as the head women's coach. I think you guys will be having multiple podcasts with her.
She replaced Gary Blair. Gary Blair was a coach for 50 years.

Speaker 2 He's in the Hall of Fame, won a national championship. You guys know what I'm talking about.
He actually came on the trip with us as a retired coach.

Speaker 2 The Yell leader was at the press conference, and I saw him, one of them, the leader. And he said, coach, your team this season embodies the core values.
There are seven of them at Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 2 Not only am I supposed to be there and it's part of what I do, but I appreciate and admire how you guys go about

Speaker 2 your team and representing our institution.

Speaker 2 It is unique to AM. It's part of what makes AM unique.

Speaker 2 But if you've never seen it or never heard it, obviously I was there as an assistant a long time ago, and so I am familiar with it, but I can understand curious versus judgmental.

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Speaker 2 Yeah, good question.

Speaker 2 I think Villanova losing their guy

Speaker 2 really changes their team. They probably will receive the least amount of hype

Speaker 2 with Moore being out.

Speaker 2 I just think that they're hard to get sped up. I think they do what they do.
I have the utmost respect for Coach Wright.

Speaker 2 I think there's an incredible, obviously, once-in-a-lifetime storyline with Coach K, Duke, and what Hubert's been able to do in year one at North Carolina.

Speaker 2 So that will probably take over the week. But when we landed yesterday in

Speaker 2 New York, I was actually able to watch the only half of the NCAA tournament that I've watched. Familiar with Miami from our time in the ACC.

Speaker 2 The way Kansas played in the second half yesterday,

Speaker 2 their talent is worthy of being in the Final Four. Their coach is a Hall of Famer.
But what they were doing defensively just absolutely negated

Speaker 2 an incredible run by Miami.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I would probably be against the green, but I think within what I know, and I don't know a lot,

Speaker 2 I would say that Kansas is going to be right there.

Speaker 1 I would say the same thing if you just watched the only half that you watched was that. That's right.

Speaker 1 That's right. And then my last question is,

Speaker 1 something that drives me nuts about coaches, and I want your thoughts on it real quick. I hate, hate, hate, and this is more because of the foul rules in college.

Speaker 1 I hate when coaches sit a guy with two fouls for too long.

Speaker 1 How do you go about deciding it?

Speaker 1 Because it always baffles me that, yeah, you don't want to lose him at the end of the game, but you're also going to lose the game in the first half because you sat your best player for 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I agree. So a couple of things, and I'll be succinct in how I answer it.
I've always kind of felt that a way. And then, because

Speaker 2 it has been me that's had to make that decision, I kind of understand why most coaches do it. So, we have a really, really intelligent staff.

Speaker 2 And one of them, I think, is a basketball savant. And so, I tell TJ

Speaker 2 exactly what you just told me. And I go, hey, TJ, I need you to help me have some data on how to better understand this.

Speaker 2 So, I'm not doing it just because my instinct says protect him. So what we did was

Speaker 2 time scoring momentum of the game dictates it. Hey,

Speaker 2 if you're about to lose the game in the first half, you got to play the guy. Everybody kind of knows that.

Speaker 2 But if it's a game, if it's a game and he's got two fouls, what data can we have that suggests if we play PFT, he's going to get his third. But if we play Kate, she's not going to foul.

Speaker 2 And so there is data that we studied on our team, and we update it every third game. This is how often he fouls, whoever he is.

Speaker 2 So, okay,

Speaker 2 PFT fouls every eight minutes. PFT just picked up his second foul.
Okay,

Speaker 2 there's five minutes left. Do we need to play PFT? We can because, Buzz, he only fouls once every eight minutes.

Speaker 2 So our decision now, when that happens, is based on what the data says up until that moment in time in PFT's playing career for us. Okay.

Speaker 4 That makes sense. Your dad is way off, though.
I fouled out one time in two and a half minutes. Quickest foul out in the history of my dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was pretty fast. Yeah, that was extremely fast.
Maybe we want to hurry up and get you fouled out so we don't have to play out.

Speaker 4 That was kind of my story.

Speaker 2 I was trying to shout away your AAU coach and your mom when they call me and go, hey, why is he not playing? Well, we tried to play him.

Speaker 1 He just fouls out every two and a half minutes.

Speaker 4 I was taking the choice out of the coach's hands. I was voluntarily benching myself.
Two of those calls from bullshit, though.

Speaker 1 everybody knows that.

Speaker 4 Well, thanks for coming on, Coach. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Love talking to you. It's great.
Good to see you guys. And

Speaker 4 we're going to make sure to respect AM next year and our Jake Palm ratings. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That data is formulated heavily.

Speaker 2 I hope we're going in the right direction. I think we have some momentum and we have some traction.
We need to add a little bit to our roster, but I like what I anticipate will return. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it. And we look forward to our thank you note, which I'm sure is coming.

Speaker 2 On the way.

Speaker 2 And I think is the address. I saw it on the

Speaker 1 notes.

Speaker 1 I'll make sure you have it. That's why we hired security guards because people just always show up out for you.
I got you. All right.
Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 1 One of, I was thinking about it, one of the largest guests we've ever had. I think it's you and Kane, the wrestler.

Speaker 1 It is offensive lineman Trent Brown, fresh off, assigning a new year, a new two-year contract with the Patriots. So congratulations right off the bat.
Thank you. That's got to feel awesome.

Speaker 1 It's great to have you in here.

Speaker 1 So I don't know. Are you familiar with our show at all?

Speaker 1 A little bit here and there.

Speaker 12 A little bit here and there, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I wanted to, we want to talk about everything in football, but a lot of times what we'll do is we'll just like get right to the chase on one question that's like stuck in our head. Okay.

Speaker 1 The tattoo. We just got to do it.
Let's just do it right away. Let's just get it out of the way.

Speaker 1 It's it's probably the greatest tattoo of all time um can you walk us through the tattoo i got this tattoo when i was like

Speaker 12 right after my rookie year in the league and i just told i told my um i told my tattoo artist al in atlanta i was like

Speaker 12 i told him a couple things that i wanted and then I told him he could have full artistic freedom after that.

Speaker 12 And that's where he took it.

Speaker 1 So when you said full artistic freedom,

Speaker 4 how much direction did you give him?

Speaker 1 Were you like, I want

Speaker 1 Titty on there? Yeah.

Speaker 12 So, like, I didn't even have any women in it. But then, he, after he drew, of course, you know, they do the stencil and all that stuff.
I'm like, shit, fuck it. Let's go with it.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, it's the funniest tattoo. Whenever I see it, I like laugh because it's like, listen, it's, it's your body, and you made a tattoo that's like, hey, I'm the man.
Look at this. Right.

Speaker 1 And it's funny. It's great.

Speaker 4 So, what was your

Speaker 4 family's reaction?

Speaker 12 Nobody really cares. My girl hate it, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I would

Speaker 1 watch.

Speaker 1 That's crazy by her.

Speaker 4 What part do you think she doesn't like? Yeah.

Speaker 12 Of course, the ass.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 12 it's basically.

Speaker 12 It's crazy that it's really like two girls like bowing down to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So for people who are listening and don't, I think everyone probably knows it because we've talked about it a good amount, but it's Trent Brown

Speaker 1 standing there with two girls. One of them's wearing your jersey, right? Yeah.
Yeah, one of them's wearing your jersey.

Speaker 1 And yeah, they're having a great time, the three of them together.

Speaker 12 But I mean, it's not just, you know what I mean, like a bullshit tattoo. It's some significance to it.
You know what I mean? I'm a seven-round draft pick.

Speaker 12 That's why I call myself the greatest underdog. I'm a seven-round draft pick.
Here I am going into year eight, and I've kind of proven myself to be one of the... best offensive tackles in the game.

Speaker 4 I think if you play for the Patriots, you go somewhere else, and then you come back to the Patriots, to me, that tells you everything that you need to know.

Speaker 4 Where it's like, okay, if Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams or whoever's calling the shots are bringing this guy back, then he can play some fucking football.

Speaker 12 Yeah, and you know, smart people would look at it that way. Some would look at it in other ways.

Speaker 4 You still have a chip on your shoulder for falling to the seventh round? Like, is there a small part of you

Speaker 4 in the background? You're like, man, the Patriots fucked up too for passing on me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did.

Speaker 12 I mean, I remember, remember um

Speaker 12 it's you know long snappers all type of positions being picked before me and i was just like

Speaker 1 just added to the fuel to the fire yeah well so what was your path like you said a great underdog story well let's start here what when did you realize that you were like a mammoth of a man Because you're what, 6'8, 6'9?

Speaker 1 6'9, 3'70. 370.

Speaker 1 At what point in your like childhood were you like, oh, okay,

Speaker 1 I'm not like all these other little kids.

Speaker 12 Yeah, always, really. I've always towered over everybody pretty much.
Yeah. In every class, every group, whatever it was.

Speaker 12 And then.

Speaker 1 Like, how old, how tall were you in like when you were 12?

Speaker 1 I was probably like

Speaker 12 5'11, 6'.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 So you're bigger than your teachers when you were in like sixth grade.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 So like, I remember for fifth grade graduation, you know, you got to get measured for Captain Gown and stuff. So I was 5'9.

Speaker 1 Wow. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 I'm 5'9 right now. I'm 37 years old.

Speaker 1 So, so, like, was there, what was the

Speaker 1 underdog story of it? You obviously went to a couple of different schools, learning the position.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment where it's like, okay, I think I've actually finally like harnessed all this power and this size and everything?

Speaker 1 Because that had to have been part of it that like you're growing so rapidly to figure out how to use your

Speaker 12 strengths. It was always, you know, those little awkward moments where it's like, dang, did I have a gross burden last night? But

Speaker 12 I think I always believed in myself and my ability. But

Speaker 12 the true

Speaker 12 light-turning moment for me was when

Speaker 12 I was after my first year in the league and I had gotten a couple starts under my belt. I think I started like the last six games for the 49ers, but I had come in

Speaker 12 like right before the first half was over against the Bengals, and they were pretty loaded.

Speaker 12 I had Carlos Dunlap.

Speaker 12 I mean, him alone

Speaker 12 as a rookie to block him and hold my own. Right.
I felt like I did pretty good.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 12 pretty much just went against everybody that they had up. It seemed like they were just trying to try me out, you know.

Speaker 1 And I held it down. So

Speaker 1 it went from there.

Speaker 4 You've gotten a lot of high praise from Vaughn Miller in particular over the years.

Speaker 4 It almost seems like he goes out of his way sometimes to be like, i hope somebody asks me a question about who my favorite tackle in the league to play against is because i've got trent brown ready i've got five nice things to say about him i think i've seen like three different interviews where he's brought you up now he's is he following you does he have a crush on you is that why he's going to the bills he wants to play you twice a year no i don't think that's what it is i think he's just he's real recognized real he understand he i mean he kind of maybe has a little understanding of my history, my background, where I come from.

Speaker 12 And, you know, I mean, he's just showing love where it's due, giving credit where it's due.

Speaker 4 He might also just be be buttering you up just so that, like, trying to make you read all the

Speaker 4 rap poison, like Coach Saban would say.

Speaker 12 I know he's not buttering me up because every time I see him,

Speaker 12 it's definitely a job.

Speaker 4 Yeah, who's the strongest player that you have to block?

Speaker 12 Strongest?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, most physical. Because there's some speed rushers out there that can get around you.

Speaker 12 So I wouldn't.

Speaker 12 The strongest player I've blocked in my career, I would have to say, was Cameron Wake.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 I wouldn't say anybody just stands out from a strength standpoint it's probably tough to to move you yeah like there's probably not too many defensive players that can just like outmuscle you

Speaker 1 what does it feel like when you're

Speaker 1 when you are run blocking and you just know there's nothing that anyone can do to stop it is it like the greatest feeling in the world

Speaker 12 I mean, that's kind of part of why I love the game. Right.
Honestly, just being able to move grown men against their will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because every time we talk to an offensive lineman, they're like, you know, pass blocking is part of the job, but it's when you run block.

Speaker 1 And I love that element where, like, if you, you can't pass block the whole, like, I'm actually thinking about the game in Buffalo, right? Yeah. Like, we were at that game.

Speaker 1 Was that one of your favorite games? Because you just basically, what you had three passes thrown?

Speaker 12 I think it was three passes the whole game.

Speaker 1 I mean, but

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 12 that's that's when you could do that. That's great.

Speaker 12 But I mean, of course you want to always have a balanced attack, but when the weather doesn't allow you to, and you have to do what you got to do, it's just you got to do what you got to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, before that game started, we were out. Um, we were outdoors.
Well, the window to our suite was open in Buffalo, so we were feeling the elements too.

Speaker 4 Cold as shit, it was very cold, and uh, the wind was just, I don't think I've ever seen football played in wind like that before. It was crazy.

Speaker 4 Uh, when you're getting ready for the game, what's the thought process to determine whether or not you're going to wear sleeves?

Speaker 12 So, I'm as an offensive lineman, I pretty much know, like, no matter the conditions, I'm never wearing sleeves.

Speaker 4 Or you just convince yourself that you're not cold, that being cold doesn't hurt.

Speaker 1 It's mental.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So when you see like a defensive line, that's all, they've got the long sleeves on, they're all decked out, they've got the sub-zero masks and all that.

Speaker 4 Are you already like when you step on the field, like, I've got a mental edge on these guys because they can't convince themselves that it's not cold?

Speaker 12 Somewhat. I just, for me personally, I think when you wear sleeves, especially loose sleeves,

Speaker 12 the sleeves catch the breeze and hold it in. So if it just hits skin, it just kind of bounces off.

Speaker 4 We were actually talking to Julian Edelman a few weeks ago, and he was telling us about the little things that Coach Belichick likes to coach people up on. For example, he hated it.

Speaker 4 when Edelman would wear red gloves as a receiver because the refs could see him grabbing hold and it would make it easier to call holds against him if he was wearing these high-lighted gloves.

Speaker 4 Are there any like small things that he tells you that you had to change up about your game when you played in New England?

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 12 That's one of the things I love most about New England. They always pretty much let me be me.
They let me play my game.

Speaker 12 I mean, as long as it's within the system,

Speaker 12 pretty much everything goes.

Speaker 1 What about, we've heard many times that

Speaker 1 Dante Scarneckia was like one of the best offensive line coaches of all time. The best.

Speaker 1 The best.

Speaker 1 So what was what, like, that's a fascinating thing to me because you'd think that there are, like, offensive line has been happening for so long that how could any one coach get an edge over all the other coaches?

Speaker 1 But it feels like he had that edge where he coached it better than everyone else.

Speaker 12 I think it was just the attention to detail, the love he had for the game, and the love he has for the guys in his room. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 12 the things he's willing to do for the guys in his room as far as taking up for you,

Speaker 12 say, in a staff meeting or something, where other coaches would just let whoever berate you and everybody else in the room. You know, I mean, he's not one of those guys that's going for it.
Right.

Speaker 12 If anybody's going to talk shit about his players and the guys in his room, it's going to be him. And then he's going to love up on you after.
Yeah. You know what I mean? But

Speaker 12 I think that's the best kind of coaching it is. The tough love

Speaker 12 kind of coach. But has your back.
Yeah, but has your back.

Speaker 1 What's something that he showed you, like detail-wise, that

Speaker 1 unlocked your abilities?

Speaker 1 Was there one specific thing where he's like, hey, do this, or like your hand placement, or how you use your hips, or anything like that, where it's like, oh, man so for for me

Speaker 12 i've always been athletically gifted uh physically too for that matter but um

Speaker 12 when i first got there it was just the drill work all his drill works translate over translates over to the game and then you do it so much and repetitively and it's just second nature and then i remember

Speaker 12 uh It was Jacksonville, my first time I was with the Patriots. He just cursed my ass out on the sideline one time and then

Speaker 12 that wasn't a good game for me because I was still kind of really trying to grow into a left tackle at that point.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 12 the next week at practice, he cursed me out again.

Speaker 12 And I mean,

Speaker 12 some people would get down about it, but I was just like, challenge accepted. And so from that point on, that's probably the best football I ever played.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then

Speaker 12 we just kind of grew to love each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 People have been talking for the last like, I don't know, nine months about how Mac Jones at times didn't seem like a rookie in terms of how he was like commanding the huddle, whatever case may be, like locker room presence.

Speaker 4 Has he gotten to a point where he's allowed to yell at you guys? Or is it still like if Mac's yelling at me, we're going to have words?

Speaker 12 Nah, hell nah.

Speaker 12 Ain't nobody doing that. Because I mean, if you fuck up, you fuck up.
You got to be a man and take it on the team. You know what I mean? That's what it's all about.

Speaker 12 You can't be out here being sensitive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I used to always see like Tom Brady, like he was not afraid to go up to anybody and start. I'm just curious what that runway is like for a rookie.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 12 if you're the quarterback of the team, you're the leader of the locker room for sure. You know what I mean? And no matter what your age may say, but you got to handle business accordingly.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 As well as everybody else.

Speaker 4 Is it weird having a leader whose name is McCorkle?

Speaker 12 Nah, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there you go. Breaking news.
McCorkle Jones.

Speaker 1 That's what I call him.

Speaker 4 Back to that. That's a great nickname, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What about, so speaking of Tom Brady, obviously you blocked for him.
Was there

Speaker 1 any moment where, like in the huddle or whatever, where you had Tom Brady at his like pure, holy shit, this is Tom Brady? Like he's, we're good because he's Tom Brady?

Speaker 12 I ain't gonna lie to you. Like I think that whole season, I looked across the huddle and was like, fuck, this Tom.

Speaker 12 But I think that's as an offensive lineman, that's just extra motivation to to do your job because nobody wants to be the guy to, you know what I mean, give up that sack that sends him home. Right.

Speaker 12 Right.

Speaker 1 Especially that Chiefs AFC Championship game, right? Where you guys, you know, winning the game. Everything went along.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And the, yeah, the, was that on your side, Dee Ford? Yeah. That was.
Did you know it was offside? I didn't know it was offside. Wow.
So you thought the season's over?

Speaker 12 I did. But I was

Speaker 12 that playoff, that whole year was fun for me. You know what I mean? I'm not going to lie to you.
That was probably the most fun I had playing football since I've been in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Just first, that was my first time really experiencing some winning football since dream college.

Speaker 12 My first three years were with San Fran. It wasn't great.

Speaker 12 And then I got there, kind of took off, and won the freaking Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wait, was your coaching?

Speaker 4 Did you have Jim Tom Sewell as a coach?

Speaker 12 Yeah, Jimmy T, then I went to Chip Kelly, then I went to Shanahan.

Speaker 1 So what was Jim Tom Sewell like?

Speaker 12 A ball of fire. I mean, of course, you know, he loves his D-line, but I think he's a guy that loves his players too.
It's just,

Speaker 12 I think you got to adapt to different people. You got to adapt, improvise, overcome, as my college coach would say.

Speaker 12 Everybody's not going to be the same. Everybody's not going to coach you the same, but you just got to...

Speaker 12 Take the meat and leave the bone.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 4 I know he used to, when he used to drink beer, he used to just crack open the top of like a light beer and then just dump hot sauce into it and that's how that was his cocktail that he would make for himself that's a hell of a uh bloody married yeah i know i know he's he's a crazy guy um i want to talk about something like kind of serious that happened to you because i remember um before that one game you were getting like an iv in cleveland yeah in cleveland and they they put air into your into your body, right?

Speaker 4 They were like a little bit sketchy with the details that they shared on television, obviously.

Speaker 4 But when I saw that, I was like concerned because that could be a big deal. Yeah, like at the time, were you actually like worried about your safety?

Speaker 12 So so basically, I'll tell you the full story. Basically, I was fresh off of COVID.

Speaker 12 I was

Speaker 12 had COVID, had caught COVID

Speaker 12 for the second time, and then

Speaker 12 you know, it's two-week quarantine period. So,

Speaker 12 on the Monday of that quarantine, on my second week of quarantine,

Speaker 12 GM Jim hit my agent and told him we fully expect Trent to play this week.

Speaker 12 You know what I mean?

Speaker 12 I wasn't thinking anything of it. You know what I mean? I'm thinking like I'm cool with that.
That's what that was my plans anyway.

Speaker 12 So I start getting tested like Wednesday or Thursday.

Speaker 12 They're running all these tests on me for COVID, blood work,

Speaker 12 cardiovascular, all this stuff.

Speaker 1 I pass them.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 12 I practice Friday. We get on a flight Friday to go to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 12 Saturday walked through. Everything was fine.
Sunday,

Speaker 12 I get two bags before every game, IVs.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 12 that shit just got air. I got air in

Speaker 12 my veins. And then they tried to blame it on COVID.
But I had just gotten...

Speaker 12 you know what I mean clear from all COVID protocols and everything so how could you blame it on COVID right so it was just a whole bunch of bullshit and And then, after the season, you know, everybody wanted to try to blame it on me and make it seem like it's my fault.

Speaker 12 I'm missing all this time.

Speaker 4 Were you, they let you stick the needles in your arm when you didn't care.

Speaker 1 Hell no. Hell no.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, why would that be your fault at all?

Speaker 12 They almost killed me.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 12 They basically weren't paying attention.

Speaker 4 Was that a concern? Like, were you afraid that you might die from that?

Speaker 12 I was scared as hell. I was laid out on the floor.
Like, basically, I was just sitting there. They pull out the

Speaker 12 syringe or whatever. And then I pass out.

Speaker 12 I couldn't feel my limbs. I'm shaking.

Speaker 2 I'm sweating.

Speaker 12 Jesus. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So that shit was scary.

Speaker 12 And then, you know what I mean? You say it's my fault. You want to talk all this shit about me.
But then I still come back and play when I didn't have to. I could have sat out the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Damn.

Speaker 1 So I had one last question for you, Trent. This has been awesome.
It's the robot question. I don't know.
What size are you?

Speaker 1 Shirt.

Speaker 12 Forex. Okay.

Speaker 1 Respect.

Speaker 1 That's legit.

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Speaker 1 you played with Chris Long, right? No. Against him.
Against him.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think. I think it was Chris who told me that you are the biggest man he's ever seen.

Speaker 1 When you're in the locker room and like, I would imagine there's some rough housing or like busting balls, does anyone ever try you?

Speaker 12 Nah, I don't even, I don't participate in that type of stuff.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 1 But yeah, are you, is that other people don't let you participate? Because they're like, we don't want Trent Brown to like squash us?

Speaker 12 Nah,

Speaker 12 nobody, I mean, that may happen every blue moon in some places, but I haven't been many places where that's been a thing. Okay.
You may joke and shoot the shit like that, but nothing really physical.

Speaker 4 It's big man privilege.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 You know, like you're walking around, you're like, it's crazy. Nobody ever fucks with you.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 To me, I'm like getting chased down by anyone above a bucket. I mean,

Speaker 12 I might get fucked with by a receiver or something every now and then, but it's just

Speaker 12 bullshit.

Speaker 1 I think it was actually, it might have been Jules who said it. He was like, would like Trent Brown is the craziest athlete I've ever seen in my life, like terms of size and speed and strength.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, it's not fair.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 12 like I say, I've always been athletically gifted.

Speaker 4 When was the last time you were in a room with somebody that was bigger than you?

Speaker 12 Probably like two years ago, my first time, my first encounter with Shaq.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. Shaq would be a good answer.

Speaker 12 That would be a good answer. But that was even like a surprise to me because it was like, dang, he's not that much taller than me.
That's what I really knew that day.

Speaker 1 You really might be a giant. You could body him up.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
That picture of

Speaker 4 The Rock and Charles Barkley and Shaq, have you seen that one? It makes you just realize how small The Rock is compared to a guy like Shaq.

Speaker 4 You think of The Rock as being like He-Man, and then Shaq's like a foot and a half taller. That's crazy.

Speaker 12 Yeah, Shaq is huge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you re-signed. Congratulations again.
It's got to feel great.

Speaker 1 Best of luck this upcoming season. Maybe a little addition to the tattoo.
I don't know. Have you thought about that? Adding another girl?

Speaker 12 I'll keep you guys posted.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, because I mean, that tattoo.

Speaker 4 I think, yeah, how about this?

Speaker 4 There's been some talk about reaching out for a certain wide receiver in the NFC West, Blaze up in Seattle. Very fast guy, big guy also.

Speaker 4 If you were to bring him over, then you should get a third girl added to that tattoo in his honor. It's kind of like his thing.
He'll appreciate it.

Speaker 12 I think that's very doable.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 If it goes down, what are you doing? I'll add a third girl. Okay, they're beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 1 Trent, thank you so much, and congrats again on the contract.

Speaker 12 Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 So, y'all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel. And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country-fried turkey.

Speaker 13 And Brandon, I'll be right there with you, and I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so cute of you.

Speaker 13 Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's wrap it up with some guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 can I just do a quick confession? I reread all the stories about Coach K and Dylan Brooks this morning just to get my hate up even more. It's hate week.
You have a fetish.

Speaker 1 Hey, he lied to the world and then the audio came out and he just was

Speaker 1 insane story.

Speaker 1 But yes, I have a fetish. That's fine.

Speaker 4 Why do I like flowers?

Speaker 1 That's actually a great question.

Speaker 4 That's a wonderful question. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They smell nice?

Speaker 1 They look nice.

Speaker 4 I think you might not like flowers flowers as much as you like the gesture of like once in a while a guy taking time out of his day to think about you.

Speaker 4 And so that's that's I think women just like being like, oh, he's thoughtful.

Speaker 4 He thought to stop at a bodega for 30 seconds and pick up a bouquet and drop him off for me. That's nice.

Speaker 1 Big cat mentioned that the other day. The like clearly, obviously picked up down the street flowers.
Like sometimes it they can be a hindrance. Yeah, no, those are bad.

Speaker 1 When you come home with the flowers, they're like, oh, so there was a guy sitting at your subway stop with flowers.

Speaker 1 It's like one sad rose in like a crinkled-up

Speaker 1 plastic. That you should avoid that.
But yeah, I think they smell nice and they look nice.

Speaker 4 There's also, he definitely fucked up flowers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are the bigger ones.

Speaker 4 You can also smell those out. Those are also at the bodega.
They're wrapped up, but maybe they're a little bit bigger than the subway rose. Yes.

Speaker 1 This is just like, I'm going to get all the flowers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you bring those home and then she's like, thank you.

Speaker 5 however explain what are your guys favorite flowers it's a great question i like a lantana um they smell nice mint family um i don't know what uh roses i like orchids sure tulips sunflowers tulips da vinci historically flowers were given uh be used as an ideal fragrance for women So that's why the men would bring the flowers and the women would make it into fragrances.

Speaker 4 That was the historical fact. Nice.
Yeah, orchids are nice to look at.

Speaker 1 My boyfriend is obsessed with the Arizona Coyotes. Uh-oh.
He watches every game and has almost too much coyotes gear.

Speaker 1 He does this weird thing where he watches their highlights literally every day from when they were good one year and made a deep playoff run in parentheses.

Speaker 1 Another thing he likes to do is randomly blurt out the phrase, all right, Coyotes fans, get on your feet and welcome to your right to the ice your Arizona Coyotes, and then howls.

Speaker 1 From my understanding, they are one of the worst hockey teams ever, and his obsession with living in the past is getting weird.

Speaker 1 The random announcements of the team coming on the ice and howling in public is very embarrassing. What do I do?

Speaker 4 Please help. I think maybe you just ask him if he could save all that for when he's on the podcast with Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is Biz, Biz's girlfriend, right? Must be. Yeah.
Or the mascot? Is he the mascot?

Speaker 1 Wiley.

Speaker 1 He sounds like he's the mascot. This is...

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's a tough one. Like

Speaker 1 a lot of franchises, you can be like, well, you know, that's a cool passion. Like, the Coyotes, whoof.
I don't know. I guess maybe.
Playing at Arizona State next year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, you live in a nice. Hopefully, you live in Arizona so the weather's nice.

Speaker 1 I'm grasping. I don't really know.
Like, there's got to be, there's certain teams where you got to just be like, you know what? I'm not going to do this. Like, this is too much time.

Speaker 4 That's me and the Wizards. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy. I think.
Yeah, Billy.

Speaker 5 Roadrunner lingerie. Might get it going.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Sure. Did they make that? No bad ideas.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah. They should.

Speaker 1 Me, me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, this girl, for whatever reason, put a star in the E in sex

Speaker 1 only half the times, though.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So one time touring SX with a star, I really had to fart while in missionary, so I clenched as best I could to prevent it. Successfully, I did, but after sex, regularly spelled.

Speaker 1 No, I don't want this question. No,

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 1 I was with you, but it's not. Okay, all right, all right, all right.
Successfully, I did. But after sex, my boyfriend told me how he liked how I clenched my vagina to make it tighter for him.

Speaker 1 So, as this continues to happen, he will tell me it hurts because I clenched you hard or not. Is this a common situation during SX back again with the star?

Speaker 1 So, she's farting and clenching. She's got to eat more beans?

Speaker 4 It's a very dangerous line. Sounds like she unlocked like a

Speaker 1 right. So, she needs to just eat beans before sex.
So then it's great for him.

Speaker 4 Until she farts. Yeah.
But I think if if you actually explained that to him, he'd be like, okay, I get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, if you fart, no big deal, just clinch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he'd also be like, well,

Speaker 1 yeah, I thought that was going a different way. And I'm still thinking about that, so I'm kind of shook.
Let's just go to the next question.

Speaker 2 Sup, fellas, I'm pregnant.

Speaker 1 My husband and I are big football fans and have always dreamed of sharing our football Sundays with our son or daughter with the hopes that they enjoy it just as much as we do.

Speaker 1 The problem is that I feel like a bad parent already because I'm a Lions fan and he's a Browns fan.

Speaker 1 Should we knowingly lead them into this life of inevitable loss and heartbreak or just encourage them toward a totally different franchise?

Speaker 4 That's a good question because I think you put it correctly. Like you're leading your child into pain and your instincts as a parent is to protect them.

Speaker 4 However, I think that a healthy amount of adversity and losing growing up

Speaker 4 actually has a good impact on the kid for learning how to deal with all that.

Speaker 4 Whereas if you just made them, say, like a Patriots fan who also rooted for Duke, then they'd turn out to be a real piece of shit.

Speaker 1 So, why are you laughing so hard, Jason?

Speaker 1 I think you got to have multiple children and then just figure out, like, who's the bigger loser? And I think that would be the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be the Lions. I don't know.
Not this year. No, but in general, like, franchise-wise, I think the Lions are the bigger loser.
Also, Hard Knox is back. We should mention that, too.

Speaker 1 Right, but then you pick the loser of the two kids and

Speaker 1 you make that the Lions fan.

Speaker 4 What if, I mean, do you really want your son growing up in a world where he roots for Deshaun Watson?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 by the time he gets old enough to remember Deshaun Watson, I'm sure we'll be out of the league for some reason. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's true. It's

Speaker 4 it's maybe you can have them root for different teams, like the two of them that are rivals.

Speaker 1 Or just root for, actually, you know what? Root for both. That really is not...
I think Lions, if someone was like, I have two teams, normally people would be like, ew, gross.

Speaker 1 But if they're like, yeah, my two teams are the Lions and the Browns would be like, why would you do that to yourself? That's actually valid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you could totally, I think that might be the only combination you could pull off. Be like, yeah, I'm a Lions and a Browns fan.

Speaker 4 Wouldn't it be awesome chaos, though, if you had two kids and as they were growing up, you like, let's just say that they're twins and you have them become one a die-hard fan of like the Red Sox and the other a die-hard fan of the Yankees.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And just create ultimate chaos and entertainment for yourself in your own home.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That'd be awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have them just brawl every day.

Speaker 1 All right, well I'm with this one. Hey boys, especially Jake and PFT.

Speaker 2 Quick question.

Speaker 1 Do all boys not flush their pee before they get in the shower or is it just my husband? Thanks and fuck Coach Kay.

Speaker 1 One, why was it just for Jake and PFT? That's so

Speaker 1 weird. Two,

Speaker 1 all boys pee in the shower. My chopped liver.
No, I'm saying it isn't unusual.

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be like something that linked you. Like I was going to be like a nasal spray question.
But that question has no link. I asked this question.

Speaker 4 I don't think anyone's ever asked Jake and I to take him to the

Speaker 4 Devils get together.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 That would be an interesting visual. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jake, which side do you want?

Speaker 1 Front or back?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh,

Speaker 1 come on. You got to go back.
Yeah, I think you're a back guy.

Speaker 4 You're a back guy for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, guys, just pee in the shower. What are we talking about?

Speaker 4 Yeah, not flush. So he pees in the toilet, and then he doesn't flush the toilet gets in the shower i will admit that sometimes

Speaker 4 i used to be superstitious that though that

Speaker 2 the water would get in your shower water

Speaker 1 i'm just gonna i'm just gonna admit that i don't think that's superstitious it's not

Speaker 1 just stupid a follow a fact yeah so it's not but the superstitious

Speaker 1 that would be like a luck thing Like, today's the day that it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I didn't know you were a fucking Dan the Plumber.

Speaker 4 You think that your toilet water comes out your faucet? It's the same when you flush it.

Speaker 1 You don't know where that tube is going. If you take a shit, your poop comes out of the tub.
What about do you not drink out of the sink?

Speaker 1 Not right after I flush the toilet.

Speaker 4 I think it's normal for some people, especially of an older generation, to say, don't flush the toilet before you get in the shower because it'll turn all the water hot.

Speaker 1 Right. That's before modern plumbing systems.

Speaker 4 So if you live in an older house, it sometimes works like that. But I kind of like Hank's take, though, the more I think about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you pee, it will go and then you flush it and then you immediately turn on the shower. You're just bathing in your own pee.
Yep. That's exactly how it works.

Speaker 1 But yeah, what guy doesn't fucking pee in the shower? I don't trust people who don't pee in the shower. That's the most natural thing in the world.

Speaker 4 Even if I just peed, I get in the shower.

Speaker 1 I pee. Yeah.
It like pulls it out. I'll sometimes not even take a shower.
I'll just stand at the edge of the shower and pee into the shower hole.

Speaker 4 I actually do that when I'm drunk. Yeah.
Because it takes less of

Speaker 1 a bathroom phobia, too. What What do you think? Toilet phobia.
Why? Sinks, showers. No, no, no.
That's not a phobia. Any hole?

Speaker 1 Any hole but a hole. A hole's a hole.
A hole is a hole. I'll take any hole.
What about you, Jake?

Speaker 4 You take any hole? No, he's mouth guy.

Speaker 4 We established that.

Speaker 1 This guy, Jake, who just is a fucking savage from the back and goes and fucks any mouth he can find. He's credentialed for the final four.

Speaker 4 This is crazy.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 5 Peeing on your feet prevents athlete foot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've heard that too.

Speaker 1 Okay. I actually think,

Speaker 1 whatever.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I've heard that enough where I think that there might be some truth to it. Yeah.
Also, jellyfish things. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you get stung by a jellyfish, take a leak on it.

Speaker 1 And you have to wear batting gloves if you pee on your hands.

Speaker 4 Yep. Moisesaloo.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Peeing in your butthole means that you won't get an itchy asshole.

Speaker 1 So try that, Billy.

Speaker 12 Never tried it.

Speaker 1 You should try it. Maybe I will.
You're flexible enough.

Speaker 1 Or like lie on the ground and then

Speaker 1 blast it up and turn it around.

Speaker 1 Quickly sit farther back. You have to do like a crunch

Speaker 4 right after you're done peeing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's just like a fountain into your asshole.

Speaker 1 What if you just... What a funny visual of just peeing in your own butt.

Speaker 4 What if you just take it and you like stretch it? between the legs and you pee directly into it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just plug the hole. Yeah.
You fuck yourself?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I wouldn't even get it.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't get halfway around the equator wait if you if you if you pee directly into your own butt would you eventually pee that pee out again or you'd puke it out come out the shower i think i think you'd poop out your pee no you'd puke out your pee no i think you'd poke from your butt no you'd poop it like a bird no it goes up it's the elevator it just keeps going up so you bar through the shower system yeah right exactly got it all the plumbing got it all right numbers six we really cleaned that one up uh

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 1 am i banned no indeed why are we banned 39 today oh no 25

Speaker 4 39 76 8

Speaker 1 whoa what did you guess six i saw it i saw a single number i saw oh because you're doing the coach k six i've also never got a fetish you have a fetish i've never won i've never won

Speaker 1 you've got a fetish newborn horses who how many times how many times have it's pissing me off now have you ever won't won no how do i google it everyone else has won yeah how many times has everyone else won jake

Speaker 1 I don't have that. I think

Speaker 1 I want to

Speaker 1 do two or three for me, too.

Speaker 1 Honestly.

Speaker 1 Hank, you have zero?

Speaker 1 Hector. I would.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you're in Hank's shoes, I would trade all my team's championships to just win this one. Just win one of these.

Speaker 1 That's actually more money. You want to make that deal right now? I'll do it again.
Yeah, would you rather do this? I'll do it this week or get the new number?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? If you, I'll... You can get the next number.
No. Mental warfare.
What are you talking about? No, I'm going to hit it again. You're going to be right.

Speaker 1 And then none none of your team's going to win again. But you'll get that.
Six.

Speaker 7 Does this count or no?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this counts.

Speaker 1 Just for guess or just

Speaker 4 for Hank.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's no shot. Hank, there's a lot of money.
There's no shot.

Speaker 4 What you got?

Speaker 1 There's no fucking shot. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 76. That's what I guessed last time.
Oh, really? You always get 69. I know.
I actually. God damn it, if Hank.
If six had been right, they'd just been the curse of Henry Lawrence.

Speaker 1 Does that count?

Speaker 5 For me? No, you didn't guess? No. I guess 76.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this is Hanks.

Speaker 1 It was his ball. yeah, yeah.
It was Hanks to curse his own teams, which, for the record, he just said he basically wants to win this more than he wants his teams to win.

Speaker 1 Without putting this in the record, Prisoner of the Moment. When that popped up, the glare blocked out the seven.

Speaker 4 I saw just a six, my heart stopped for a second. It would have been witchcraft.

Speaker 1 Hank would never have won anything ever again in his life. It would have been incredible.
And it would all be because of him. Yep.
He tried to make a deal with the devil. Oh,

Speaker 1 love you guys. Real shame.

Speaker 1 We do this all day.

Speaker 1 Talking away.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm about to say. I'd say

Speaker 1 anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's not

Speaker 1 the day to finally

Speaker 1 shine away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 I'm on the sentence

Speaker 1 for me,

Speaker 1 stone

Speaker 1 away.

Speaker 1 Early learning that life is okay.

Speaker 1 Say up to me.

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe, but sorry.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 all the things that you say.

Speaker 1 All the things that you say.

Speaker 1 all the things that you say

Speaker 1 alive for

Speaker 1 just the flame of worries away.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 Be shy and away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 me