Buzz Williams, Patriots Trent Brown, Tiger Is Back And Guys On Chicks

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On today's part of my take, we've got a twofer for the people. Coach Buzz Williams back on the show.
Haven't talked to him in a while. He's here for the NIT, the Texas A&M, Aggies competing in the semifinal on Tuesday night.
So when you listen to this, hopefully he's a winner. And then we have Trent Brown, offensive lineman from the New England Patriots.
Very large human. One of the largest humans we have ever had on the show.
Just on earth, really. On earth, off his new contract.
Talked to him in studio as well. We are going to talk a little Tiger.
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Today is Wednesday, March 30th, and Tiger Woods is back. Well, his plane is going to Augusta, allegedly.
I've been scouring the message boards. I've been looking at FlightAware, FlightTracker, all of the above, checking out the tail numbers.
It appears that Tiger Woods is going to Augusta. Now, there's no other reason why he would be there unless he was actually playing in the event, right? Well, I talked to my sources in the golf world, a.k.a.
Frankie Borelli, and he said that there's a 95% chance he's going to be playing in the Masters. If I was Tiger, even if I wasn't playing, I'd just fly down there for the free meal, Go to the champion's dinner, peace out.
But, I mean, Tiger is such a legend in Augusta that he could show up, they could create just almost like a pace car group for Tiger where he just gets out there and he plays 18, not even officially in the tournament, give him a cart, send him out, just let him open up the tournament. People are saying that he's though it's the it's it's whether he will have the endurance to last four days in augusta but he uh he played in that tournament with his son he looked good there the the word on the street again this is sources frankie borelli uh said that he's striking the ball very well he's actually better today than he was even uh in 2019 when he won the masters last and was coming off injuries.
So there you go. So Tiger has improved his swing like, what, nine, ten times over the course of his career? Keep reinventing yourself.
Keep reinventing him. Sometimes having a drastic life-altering change, maybe he's learned to not rotate his right ankle as much in his swing.
Maybe he's actually improved. He's out of this stronger all i ask is that if tiger competes and let's just say like storybooks you know ending he he wins the masters again this year do you think um the police officers who refuse to take a blood test after he crashed his car will also be there i don't know what you're talking about big cat that would be a great like i don't know i don't know what you're talking about where they're.
That would be a great... I don't know what you're talking about.
I was reading up... Because I forgot all about it.
And I'm happy Tiger's back. It's great TV.
I want him to be back and playing golf. But I've never...
I read the article again today, and it was like the police officers said they had collected all the data and they won't be releasing anything unless Tiger Woods and his lawyers agree to it to it that's hipaa that's how the judicial system works if you're a celebrity and you drive a car unless it's because your dogs are trying to bite you while you're driving correct uh you're entitled to due process which means that if you're rich enough they won't release the report yes so um it would be nice though if that if that officer who i i'm sure is a big tiger fan well i i also think that if you're in like a single car accident and you almost die almost lose your feet at some point it's like okay how much more can we punish this guy than him not being able to walk for nine months counterpoint if you're driving under the influence and you've also already have a dui maybe it's's a good idea to be like, hey, you shouldn't do this anymore. That's HIPAA.
That's HIPAA. Holding celebrities accountable is HIPAA.
Either way, Tiger, it's good that he's back. I'm glad that he's back.
Just his presence makes the tournament more exciting. I'd like to see him in the par three tournament with his son.
I'd like to see him in everything. If you told me Tiger was competing for, like, if he was fifth place on Sunday, it would be the most incredible story, and it would be great, and everyone would be tuned in.
Tiger makes golf more fun. Tiger's presence makes golf more fun.
I don't know anyone who's like, like, I obviously bust Tiger's balls on certain things, but, like, who out there isn't, like, actually rooting for Tiger because he's so important to golf? I know. he moves the needle.
Right. And he's also been like, he's the perfect story of, he was the perfect choir boy guy who then fell down and had to rebuild himself.
America loves that. Yeah, that was an all-time moment when he got up on stage and announced that he had to go seek treatment.
With his mom in attendance. For having too much sex.
Yeah, he had a sex addiction press conference. Listen, if anybody's getting bonked, it should be Tiger Woods.
Yes. Back in the day, if we had that technology where we could just bonk a guy instead of sending him to a 12-step program, tell him just jerk off more.
That should have been, though, the only punishment he had was he had to stand up in front of the country and his mom sitting front row and being like, yeah, I have too much like that right there is the embarrassment like okay you're good yeah like that actually is the therapy because would you stop having sex so you don't have to do another one of these press conferences in front of your mother right that adding his mom to the mix was a difference because when he would be like i have too much sex his dad would be like high five also you need to work at your form because seriously lacking yeah but when you have to say that mom, it becomes real. Yes, really real.
So Tiger might be back. Masters coming up.
We're going to have Max Homa on next week. Very excited.
Max is going to make the cut. I actually was upset about that because there's a lot of press going around about Tiger possibly playing in these Masters.
Not enough press going around that Max Homa guaranteed he'd make the cut. He's going to make the cut, absolutely.
He's going to make the cut. A million percent.

There's no pressure.

I mean this in the nicest way possible.

I'm saying this because I think that Max has a chance, however remote.

It's not unthinkable to think that he could win the Masters.

Oh, I'm going to bet on him.

Now, I'm going to bet on him too, absolutely.

100-1.

But here's the question, and again, I'm saying this from a place of love, Max.

Would Max Homa be the worst golfer of all time to win the Masters? No, Mike Weir. You think so? I'm pretty sure Mike Weir didn't win anything after.
But what about before? I don't think Mike Weir has a fucking... Does Mike Weir have a PlayStation 5 tour open? Fortnite open? Isn't Mike Weir like the guitar player for Grateful Dead? No, you're thinking of Bob Weir.
Bob Weir. Yes.
Mike Weir. Let's see.
Mike Weir won. That'd be crazy if he won.
He won eight times on the PGA Tour, and he won the Masters in 2003. He did not win any other majors.
But he won eight times on tour. Right.
But Max has already... Max has probably got three.
Well, he's got the PlayStation open. He's got the Fortnite open.
He's got what else? Fisher Price. He's got five.
He's got five professional wins, three on the PGA Tour. Okay.
But Max has a long career ahead of him. He does.
So I don't think you could say that about Max. At the moment, he could be.
We'll see. You know what? That's champagne problems to have.
Yeah. Just go out and win it for us, Max.
I'm trying to look up Mike Weir. I saw, because there was an Instagram.
I don't know why this is serendipity, but I saw an Instagram video of Mike Weir practicing his swing while I think his wife was in the grocery store outside of his car. I like that.
I like that. Here we go.
Because Mike Weir, I mean, why wouldn't you show up to the Masters every year? That's relatable. You have to show up to the Masters every single year.
Absolutely. That's the best part about winning Masters is you get the jacket.
They should give, Jim Nance should give Coach K a green jacket if he wins. That would be nice.
I'm looking it up right now. Mike Weir actually had some pretty good finishes.
So I'm going to just Google, let's just worst Masters champion ever ever i'm sure it's some dude from like 100 years ago uh 25 worst find that for me jake what's the worst golfer to ever win a master like some guy named lefty that played with a stick yeah find me find me someone who's who just sucked and he just had one great great year and that was it i actually i'll text someone and someone, and I'll get an answer for us. Actually, ask Max.
Be like, would you be the worst? Yeah, would you be the worst? Actually, I'll just ask him that when we interview him. Yeah, would you be the worst? All right, so what else we got? We got overtime rules changes.
I have a question for you, Big Cat. Can we call this the Matt Ryan rule, just out of respect for him? Because he didn't get the ball in that overtime in the 28-3 game.
Oh, I think it's more of this. It's definitely more of the Josh Allen rule.
Yeah. But I feel like, you know, let's give a little bit of respect to old Matty Ice.
Well, so that, the rule, here's the only thing I don't understand about this rule. So now is both teams in the playoffs.
So in in playoffs only have a chance to possess the ball so if you go down and score a touchdown the other team gets to get the ball back they go down and score a touchdown then they just kick off or then go for two and win the game what happens when you go to overtime in the playoffs let's let's say the it's the chiefs bills the chiefs go down and score a touchdown the bills go down and score a touchdown then they kick off and the chiefs go down and score a touchdown they win the game and everyone's like well it's the Chiefs-Bills. The Chiefs go down and score a touchdown.
The Bills go down and score a touchdown. Then they kick off.
Then the Chiefs go down and score a touchdown. They win the game.
And everyone's like, well, it's unfair because the Bills don't get to rebut. So the Bills score the first touchdown.
No, the Chiefs score the first touchdown. Oh, so then that's the third one.
The Bills score the first touchdown. No, no, at that point, that's where we push off the, well, you have to play defense in this league too.
Right, which is exactly where we're at right now. We're pushing it back to possessions yeah i like i like the rule change because i do think that more teams will if you if a team scores a touchdown on the opening drive and then the team get the other the opponent gets the ball and scores they most likely would go for two to try to end the game but it's just funny to me because it actually has the chance of just having two extra possessions and then right back to the initial problem of wait the other team doesn't get to respond to this well it's because like it's kind of like the kicking game where they're uh kind of minimizing the importance of kickoffs and being able to kick for touchbacks but the kicking game is still it has some importance they're doing that with the coin right so they're saying okay the coin should not determine the winner of the game but it should be a small part of the out right it still helps yeah the coin still like has a very big part of because i don't know would you we're respecting the coin would you kick you would kick off with the coin now yeah i think so yeah you would definitely kick off because then you if you stop them you just have to kick a field goal yep you can't if you and if they, you have the chance of scoring a touchdown and going for two.
But wait, we should also remind the players that you should elect to kick off. You don't elect to defer.
Correct. But, yeah, that's really all that changed here.
It's just the teams now, if you win the coin flip, you're going to want to kick off. Exactly.
Yeah. Yes.
I had a wild idea about it. Okay.
How about whoever receives the kickoff? So you flip the coin. They can either opt to receive the kickoff or get one point and then kick off.
So then if you don't score, the other team wins. You get a point for doing nothing.
Exactly. You get a point for basically kicking off.
What? So it's – wait. So for example – So you're just saying if you get a stop, you win? Exactly.
You get a point for basically kicking off. What? So it's – wait.
So, for example – So you're just saying if you get a stop, you win? Exactly. Because then defense – Then you would always kick off.
Yeah. Yeah.
What? And you get a point. And what if the other team scored? So it would be like – so if it goes to overtime and it's 17-17, right? Uh-huh.
Now it's 18-17. The other team scores and it's 24, 17.

Or 24, 18.

Yep.

And then you score a touchdown and you win?

With the extra point?

Yep.

I don't know.

How about this?

The team that receives the ball, now that they're at a one-point deficit,

if they punt, they also get a point.

So now it's a tie game again.

I think that's where it would work out. No, I just intentionally threw out the dumbest augmentation.
You just punt right away for that point back. Or maybe you opt out of your extra point when you kick off.
I do like the concept. I like where your head's at, Billy.
I like the concept of awarding points to teams in sports for doing absolutely nothing.

Yeah, for just existing.

It's like the SAT. It would give the defense some value.
Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm happy they changed it because now we don't have people complaining that, oh, they don't, you know, Josh Allen's sitting on the sideline. But I'm just pointing out the fact that we'll just find a new complaint.
Because if it keeps going, there will be a new complaint. and will be exactly like the the new complaint will have the answer that the old complaint had is just play defense yep just be good at defense exactly which is what could have solved all of this can i defense is half the game here's my advice to roger gdell and to the owners you just put the word super in front of everything and it becomes cooler so be like this is the new super overtime yeah rule format and then you can add in whatever dicked up change you want to make and everybody's like this seems important because it's super overtime yes yes um so yeah that's that's kind of everything that's going on what are you well hank you mushed your own bet you finally decided what to do right do you want to get the hot seat cool throne well do we have anything before we get to hot seat cool throne um just like kyle shanahan is starting to look like forrest gump now have you seen the pictures of kyle well he's he's wearing his losses he's wearing his losses big time yeah no he's got a he's got a desk there to him when you're wearing the the light blue plaid button-up t-shirt all the way to the top and you're sitting there looking like forrest gump on a park bench trying to hand out chocolates to people,

but no one wants your chocolates because your chocolates haven't had their shoulder surgery yet.

It's a very sad image to look at.

And the way that he's talking about Jimmy Garoppolo,

and I kind of feel bad for Jimmy.

Him and John Lynch,

they're really playing each other's words against each other.

Yeah, I feel bad for Jimmy now because, like,

Chefter's, I don't know what he's doing. Well,'s you know he Schefter increases stock.
He's best friends with Don Yee. And what they're doing is like they're publicly saying yes okay we did try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo but that doesn't mean that we don't want him here next year.
Right. So it's almost a good problem that we have that we're unable to trade him.
Now we've got him and Trey Lance at the same time. That's great, isn't it? I just kind of feel bad for the guy.
Well, they kind of missed out on the whole carousel, like all the quarterbacks are spoken for, including Andy Dalton, nice guy, signed with the Saints. But, yeah, that is a weird situation.
What are you going to say, Jake? Claude Harmon won the 1948 Masters. He has two total PGA Tour wins.
There it is. Claude Harmon, what a piece of shit he was.
That name was right on the tip of my tongue. Total fraud.
I'm sure that there will be some golf hardos that will get really mad at me about the Mike Weir answer. But anyone who's a lefty in golf and Canadian sticks out in your mind forever.
Absolutely. Those are the two things.
Yes. It's like, oh, yep, that's Mike Weir.
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I did figure out what I was going to do. I did take some out.
I took out $10,000. Good, responsible.
Good, responsible. I'll always have that.
And then I put a – I figured out the math so that it equaled $100,000 if it hits. Celtics and Duke championship parlay.
It was somewhere like $3,000, $3,600 or something. And then the next morning, Robert Williams, it came out that he has a torn meniscus.
He's going to be out for at minimum three weeks. So hopefully if they can make it past the first round, then he comes back.
But then it's like who knows how healthy he'll be. Right now, Big Cat, I don't know if you look at the standings.
Oh, I've looked. Four or five Celtics-Bulls first round.
I was actually talking to our friend Roan this morning. I look at the standings every day.
The Bulls are in free fall. They're terrible right now.
I just do not want to play the Celtics, the Sixers, or the Bucs because I don't want to have to deal with the fans of those teams. What about the Nets, Frank Fleming? I can deal with Frank.
That's fine. Well, Frank will be essentially rooting for the Bulls in that series.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
Now, what about the Bucs? Why don't you like Bucs fans? Well, Bucs fans are Packers fans. They'll come at me in the Grayson Allen thing.
There's all that. Having Grayson Allen like a dookie ruin your season with that hard foul on Caruso has got to be tough.
Yeah, so I don't want that. No, Caruso's back.
He's back. He's playing.
He's playing. He's playing well, but the Bulls aren't.
I just want the heat. I want to play the heat, let the heat just fucking smother us, and just walk away and be like, all right, that didn't happen.
I blacked out from January 15th was the last time I watched the NBA. That's what I'm going to tell myself, and the Bulls were awesome.
So, Hank, what kind of meniscus surgery? Is it going to be the long one or the short one? There are two kinds. Sounds like the short one.
Sounds like the short one. Okay, so, yeah, I mean, you can win a first-round play.
I don't see a reason why he wouldn't be back in the second round, third round. They definitely will beat whoever they're matched up in the first round.
Well, it's interesting. That's what I was going to say, too, because on Sunday they won, and they were mathematically in first place for a minute, and then they lost last night, and they're now in fourth place.
But right now the Nets are the eighth seed. Right.
And Kyrie's back. No one wants to play the Nets.
No one wants to play the Nets. So I would rather be a four and play the Bulls than be a one and play the Nets, or a two and play the Cavs.
The Cavs are fucking nasty. So what about this, Hank? Because it seems like there's still a great chance that they could win the NBA championship.
Not that much has changed. The odds actually went down.
The odds, when I put it in, was plus 1,000. It's plus 800 now, so it's not super hot seat.
But Robert Williams is essential for them to win a championship. You might want to double down on it.
I think your only crime was being too right. You were too early on it.
Well, see, I've been thinking. Now, obviously, when you win a lot of money, you spend a majority of your time thinking about future bets.
I know you guys have been in similar situations. i've been thinking i mean now obviously like when you win a lot of money you spend a majority of your time thinking about future bets i know you guys have

been in similar situations i've been thinking about the the can't lose parlay that big cat's

been talking about too much kansas and duke saturday night how can it lose it it can't it

makes too much sense i mean can't that i've learned over my time my history with big cat and and

gambling that it does lose it will lose somehow villanova villanova can i actually say how i have an idea for villanova because i was thinking about it and obviously justin moore being out is a problem for them and we've talked about jay right you know he doesn't wear suits anymore i didn't realize his tailor passed away last year he needs to bring back one of his favorite suits from his tailor who's deceased. That's what he's got to do, a special juju suit for Saturday night.
I've also been thinking about Villanova for the last couple days. Jake and I talked about it before you got in the room, but I'm talking myself into Nova, I think.
Me too. For a couple reasons.
One, the foul shooting. The best foul shooting team ever.
Plus sign. Plus sign, that's number two.
Jay Wright is a better tourney coach than Bill Self is. But here's the issue.
I know their second leading scorer is out, but the guys on the bench have to be – they can't be bad, right? They can't be that bad. They play at Villanova.
So when I asked last night, all the responses were like, the guys on the bench aren't bad, but they just have played bad. That seems like they're bad.
They're like, they have good, they're four and five-star recruits, and then also there was a lot of, we need to trust in baby Archie Diacono, and that feels bad. I don't like that.
I don't like that. They also, all Villanova fans were like, Justin Moore didn't play the game against UConn, and we kicked the shit out of him.
So there's a little confidence there. I don't think Villanova's, obviously, they're not going to roll over.
I just don't know how you can go from we don't have any bench to we just lost a starter and be like, we're okay. Yeah.
Also, like Kansas, they're kind of falling into the they ain't played nobody Paul category in the tournament at least. Yeah.
They've had a pretty easy road to get here. Everybody's just thinking the second half that they had against miami i don't know i'm starting to talk myself into nova i think i have a future on nova that i'm just gonna that was lit on fire once justin moore went down so let it ride he's up he's up i know i listen i believe the nova i put a future on him and it's it was the the classic like oh going to the Final Four, and then they just lost a starting player when they have no bench.
But imagine if they beat Kansas, and then they're your final. Was Hank trying to get you to bet on Villanova? This has nothing to do with Hank.
I was honestly just – Don't let us in. Because he wants – I've been thinking about Villanova for the last two days.
He knows Villanova would be an easier game for Duke. So he doesn't – Okay, this is where things are – He's trying to influence things.
This is where things are getting dangerous as a podcast because Big Cat and Hank are now engaged in mental warfare against each other. No, he's doing that.
He might be. Since the game of the year, it's been mental warfare.
But there's also like subterfuge and subtext in the mental warfare that you're doing against each other that you guys are now also if you haven't already started to invent ways that the other guy is fucking with you on something wants Villanova to win I I know put a gun to his head I'm saying Villanova to win that's not subterfuge there's not there's no subcontext he literally is saying to himself if if Duke beats UNC and Villanova beats Kansas raise the banner I. I'm just saying the levels of espionage.
I know he's doing it now. Is that wrong? Probably not.
So don't let him influence you. I literally have not spoken with Hank about Villanova.
He's going to try to talk you into it. Okay, Hank.
Sounds like I don't have to convince you much. Hank, don't talk to me about Villanova.
Don't. Ever.
Ever. Don't get mad at me when Villanova plus sign hits.
I'm not even talking about this tournament. I'm talking about FCS football season, anything.
Don't mention the word Villanova to me. But if you want to hear about Villanova, we have Colin Gillespie on the benchmark.
Thank you, Jason. I'd love to hear that.
Thanks, Jason. Yeah, he didn't know who he was, by the way.
He didn't know who Colin Gillespie was? Legendary fullback, runner-up to the Little Man Trophy. He's in Thursday.
Great interview coming. Okay, your cool throne, Hank? My cool throne is the Don, 45.
Oh, yeah, you got me. 45.
I mean, this was one of the funniest things I've ever read. I thought it was satire.
He released a statement, and I'll just read the whole thing. Yes, please.
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.
Many people are asking... Wait, Billy, please rise.
Many people are asking, so I'll give it to you now. It's 100% true.
While playing with the legendary golfer Ernie Els, winner of four majors in approximately 72 other tournaments throughout the world.

I don't know where the approximate comes in there.

Yeah, that's like Darren Revell.

I've got over nine.

Gene Sayers, winner of the Senior U.S. Open,

Ken Duke and Mike Goods, both excellent tour players.

I made a hole-in-one.

It took place at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida,

on the seventh hole, which was playing at 181 yards in a slight win.

I had a five-iron, which was playing at 181 yards in a slight wind.

I had a five iron, which sailed magnificently into a rather strong wind. Okay, real quick.
I'm going to stop you because this is my favorite part of the statement. He started sentence by saying uh on the seventh hole which was playing into a slight wind yeah and then he hit the five iron and it sailed magnificently into a rather strong right it got stronger as you go up it does yeah that's a fact yeah with approximately five feet of cut whereupon it bounced twice and then went clank into the hole.
These great tour players noticed it before I did because they are slightly better, but on that one hole, only their swings weren't. Okay, so this is another great part because he's giving credit to the tour golfers only for being able to see his hole in one go in better than he could.
That's perfect. I fucking love it.
That is perfect. Anyway, there's a lot of chatter about it.
Quite exciting. And people everywhere seem to be asking for the facts.
Playing with that group of wonderful, talented players was a lot of fun. The match was Ernie and me with no strokes against Gene, Mike, and Ken.
I won't tell you who won because I'm a very modest individual, and you will then say I was bragging, and I don't like people who brag. Thank you, sir.
That was it. Thank you, sir.
Respect. I respect the office.
Fantastic. I need to see the match version 3.0 of him against Kim Jong-un.
I think Donnie's got some work cut out for him if he's going to get it up to 11 holes in one in a single round. But this is very funny.
Like, yeah, objective. Oh, yeah.
Anyone should be able to look at this and being like this rocks that a guy went out shot a hole in one and then issued a presidential press release yeah telling the world that he just got a hole in one that is i would do the same yes if i was if i was a former president and and hit a hole in one there absolutely would be a press release you know it also made me think that there should be a button that they have at Twitter that allows Donald Trump for like six hours, reinstate his account after the slap.

Why'd he pick six hours?

I don't know, seven hours?

Okay.

Just so he could riff for a little bit.

I want to give him some time to collect his thoughts and breathe.

Like after the slap, I would have loved to have Donald Trump on Twitter.

Yeah.

Reacting to that.

Yeah, just a moment.

During halftime music shows at the Super Bowl, I want to hear Donald Trump be like, Dr. Dre is a disgrace.
I want to let him play the hit sometimes. And this is a perfect example of why it would be good occasionally to hear him chime in on stuff.
I actually would love to have him if Coach K wins his national championship because I'm sure he'd have a backhanded compliment to him. it would make me feel a little bit better yeah you know he only has slightly better hair than i do yeah your favorite president yeah i yeah that would be nice that would be nice there was a moment this morning where there's something came out about the january 6th and also we had like two days after the will smith takes where it was like this is this is back to a hell site.
Where it was like, because the Will Smith discourse now is bad.

Oh, yeah.

It's horrendous.

I mean, it was maybe an hour.

I think Tom Fornelli said it the best.

It was like the nine minutes after something are hilarious

and then the two weeks after it are horrible.

There's a lot of takes out there like actually Will Smith

was being misogynistic when he stood up for his life and slapped Chris Rock. It is exhausting.
It's exhausting. Dude.
We're not meant to hear everybody's thoughts. Last night I, like for 20 minutes, got in it with people who still think it's fake.
And I was like, what am I doing right now? The people online who think everything's fake, something could happen to them and they'd be like, fake.

Mm-hmm.

Billy?

Because it's always a rush to be the first guy to say that something's fake.

And you never have to actually point to anything.

You just be like, it's fake.

Look, this was going to be my hot seat.

Okay, go ahead.

There's a video out of Will Smith a month ago teaching a kid how to fake slap.

I don't know if you guys see this.

It's on TMZ.

He is an actor who has done movies

where he's not actually hitting the other actors in the movie.

But I'm just saying,

it looks like a guy who's been practicing slapping.

So this is what Billy does sometimes.

He doesn't really connect the dots.

He doesn't connect the dots.

He puts a dot on a piece of paper,

and he's just like, there's a dot right there.

Somebody could draw that line. You guys connect it.
Someone could draw it, but there's a dot. I still don't get, like, we watched it with our eyes.
It was way too clean. Like, think about fight videos and, like, people slapping other people.
Like, it's never that clean. All right, so, but if it had been, like, a little murkier, you would have been like, see, he didn't try to hit him, really.
Right. That's the thing.
Or if Chris Rock had hit him back, he'd be like, oh, wow, they really wanted to sell this. Yeah.
There's no matter what, like, you can just do every iteration of how this takes place, and you could say it's fake. Okay.
Right? We're right, though. I'll let the sands of time.
Okay. okay wait for the facts to come out wouldn't they have already said that it was fake by this point why would yeah will smith apologize sell the tickets but why wouldn't like what what tickets what what tickets to chris rock's tour yeah i mean i did see some people saying that the resale value went up and i was like that do? Nothing for Chris Rock.
Yeah, I mean, imagine what would be going through Will Smith's mind where he's like, okay, you're about to win an Oscar for Best Actor. It's one of the biggest nights of your life.
Let's go ruin it for a stunt that'll make Chris Rock's resale value go up for ticket math. And also be like, hey, Chris Rock, for your tickets, for your upcoming tour we want will smith to slap you in the face and have you do nothing on live television but also you think chris rock would be cool with that will smith's narrative lately has been good since the red table kind of changes that narrative when he's like is it better people is it better now i'd say it's probably worse now i fully think that it that it's real.
I've switched my stance from Sunday night. However.
However. It was reply of reply.
I was reading some of the replies to your tweets, Big Cat. So this is a reply reply guy answer.
But it was like the ratings have been bad. And doing the slap guarantees him the Oscar.
Like he wants the Oscar. if it's like, we'll guarantee you.
But they already voted. So the guy from PricewaterhouseCooper or whatever is going to go backstage, and he's going to change the envelope to say Will Smith because he just got up on stage and slapped Chris Rock.
They're already sealed. He already knew he was winning the Oscar.
The fact that, like, think about it. Which is why he wouldn't do it.
Big Cat, our country is so fucked. This is great.
I'm not. I said I'd believe it.
I believe it's real, but it was interesting. Hold on.
Also, the ratings, people, it was the second lowest ratings of all time for the Oscars. And then people are like, pull out the slap.
And then people are like, well, next year. We'll see.
I guess time will tell if next year's ratings are so insanely good because of this moment that we're all going to move on from. Well, people might be watching and thinking like, well, you know, the slap happened last year.
Something crazy. Who knows who's going to get slapped this year.
Amy Schumer in the Spider-Man costume. Can I ask a question about the ratings? Do you think they might have wanted to do that earlier in the show if they were trying to get ratings instead of the last 25 minutes? You don't know the analytics.
Okay. I mean, that's just like half of the country was asleep.
We actually don't know how ratings are calculated at all. We're just kind of taking a stab at the door.
But I'm assuming that it would be more valuable to get more eyes on the show earlier than it would be like at the end of the show. Break the class in case of low ratings.
Oh, so if there was a needle on it, then the guy backstage hits the slap button. Just do this and will smith gets his his his apple watch starts buzzing as i go shit i gotta go slap somebody also he's partying i've been training for this good thing i showed that kid how to do it a month ago yeah it's also the the answer that i got the most is when it's like the conspiracy theories have have ruined everyone's brains but then people be like i'm sorry i'm not a sheep that just believes everything that's forced down my throat.
It's like, this is literally just a slap. This has no consequences whatsoever.
It's not some big conspiracy that I even care about. It's a slap.
No, but I think the thing is, it's fun to be the first person to say that something's fake. Yeah.
It's not really that fun to be like the two or three millionth person.

Right.

Like, yeah, I agree.

That's fake.

Right.

The first guy, that guy has a great time.

He does.

When he can figure that out.

Billy's looking for that rush.

He was on it right away.

I don't blame him.

Billy was one of the first people to think that it's fake.

Yeah.

No one reacts to someone walking up to them with their hands in their pockets.

No, I do all the time.

Like if somebody that you know walks up to you.

Who's on the Oscars. My prediction is that there will be a Pepsi commercial this summer.
Kendall Jenner gives them both a Pepsi. And they crack it open and everything's copacetic.
And people will say it's fake because they did something together. They're definitely going to do something together.
Of course they are. They're going to cash in.
At this point. That's America, baby.
We should do a slap. We could cash in, too.

Yeah.

Okay, let's do it. Come over here, Billy.

Okay, I'll slap you.

Actually, anyone who wants to slap Billy can do it at any time.

No, that's not allowed.

That's not allowed.

Wait, you just said we wanted to do a slap.

Well, I was saying a stage slap so we could cash in on it.

This is stage.

I'm literally telling people, go slap Billy that stage.

It's not real.

It's not real.

You can't react.

Because I created it.

Well, it was a real, like a physical real slap.

Make sure you videotape.

No, that's so fucked up.

This is the first time I was going to be able to do this. people go slap billy that's safe it's not real it's not real you can't react because i created it well it was a real like a physical make sure you videotape no that's so fucked up yeah don't slap do not slap it do not slap billy if you will arrest you if you slap billy he has permission to kill you yes and also sue you now i'm bringing the gun around oh jesus how quickly it escalates god damn it this is how ukraine started, fuck.
I think that, yeah, stay away from Billy. It is funny, though, like seeing a slap in the wild is exhilarating.
Yeah. And my life has been somewhat empty for the last 36 hours with no slaps.
I need somebody else to get slapped. So any volunteers out there, any celebrity.
You have to be a celebrity, though. Yeah.
And it has to be an unexpected situation. But life is not same for me after the slap yeah um all right you have your hot seat pft i think that's where we are i think we've jumped around a little yeah i think so my my hot seat um i was gonna say kim jong-un actually because because donnie trump i'm still just so impressed with that statement yes it's he's a fucking hilarious guy yes um my hot seat i'm just gonna say my addiction so um jake has overcome his challenge his dragons and i think you're how long are you clean now off the no spray jake i want to say a yearish that's a long time that's impressive yeah um i fell into the into the traps that that jake fell year.
I had a cold for the last couple of weeks and I've been taking instant relief nose spray. And then I just kept using it every day.
And so now it's been about three and a half weeks where every night before I go to bed and sometimes during the day I have to take it because if I don't take it at night, my nose just completely closes so jake is my sponsor right now and jake i haven't used today i haven't i tweeted you this morning thank you thank you i'm taking it one day at a time um but it is actually it is addictive like yeah your nose just stops working if you take it like god right yes like clear that's more aggressive than what i was gonna say but um yeah it's it's a perfect it's like a perfect drug and now i can't fall asleep without it so tonight tonight is gonna be the real challenge good luck so thank you very much jay congratulations though that's impressive that you're a year off the hard stuff thank you um my brother actually saw me tweet about it and he hit me was like, are you okay? Are you okay? And I was like, yeah. He's like, that sounds scary.
My cool throne is going to be Costa Rica. Oh, there it is.
Costa Rica. You were looking at a map when you did that? No, because I had to move some stuff around because I realized that Donald Trump was actually on my cool throne.
Got it. And then my hot...
Yeah, it's old switcheroo musical chairs. But yeah, Costa Rica, because I think we were a little premature in crowning the U.S.
men's national team to be dancing. Oh yeah, there's a goal differential thing.
So if the U.S. team loses by...
Yeah, no, I knew this. Jesus Christ.
Wait, wait, Hank. If they lose by six goals tonight, then they don't automatically qualify.
So as a giant U.S. men's national team soccer fan, I can admit that if they lose by six goals tonight, that is fucking hilarious.
It would be very funny. I hope it doesn't happen, but it would be very, very, very funny.
So I hope either they win or they lose by six or more goals tonight. Who are they playing? Costa Rica.
Costa Rica. Because then Costa Rica would jump above us in the CONCACAF octagonal, and they would get the automatic qualification.
We would play against New Zealand probably. Love it.
Let's win that game. Win or take all.
Or don't lose by six. Yeah, or just lose by six.
Don't lose by six. That would be very fun.
I'm fine with anything that happens on that one. All right, my hot seat is Matt Rule.
That picture, I don't. I mean, it really is like this is what happens when you have Sam Darnold as your quarterback.
It's the khakis, the ill-fitting khakis, the wrinkles, the untucked shirt. Every year, one coach steals the show.
You hope it's Andy Reid with a Hawaiian shirt. Instead, it's Matt Rule looking like he's behind on his mortgage and everything in life sucks.
Guaya Barra shirt. Was that what he was wearing? I don't know.
The big bowling shirt with the wide shoulders. He looked like a child wearing his dad's shoulder pads on halloween this is a guy who spit on himself and now this is the worst look he's had he should spitting on himself is not the worst look it's second worst what's crazy is if you're if you're running down the matt rule looks the worst is this one second worst is spitting on himself and then the best look that he's ever had is when he's an adult male wearing a smock on the sidelines.
That's the swaggiest he's ever appeared. When he kind of in the right light looks like Vincent D'Onofrio.
Yeah, like Vincent D'Onofrio from Men in Black. Right.
After he gets taken over by an alien. Right.
But you're like, ooh, I could see it. And then my cool throne is LeBron.
So investigative research by Kenny Beacham on Twitter, at KOT4Q. He found out, or he looked it up, and every single time the Lakers lose a game and they post the final score on Twitter, they never include a picture of LeBron.
So cool throne LeBron. He's never been a part of a loss this year.
And also, he also did the other metrics, which was every time they win a game, who gets featured, and LeBron gets featured far and away as the winning player. I absolutely think this is in his contract.
He definitely put this in his contract. You cannot include me in any lost pictures.
And in a weird way, I almost respect it. Well, I mean, whatever.
Poor Malik Monk, part of Kenny's. He's the scapegoat, yeah.
He had the majority of the losses. I wonder if this goes back to his time with the Cavs.
I actually don't know if teams were doing the mandatory win-loss tweet graphic at the end of games. That's like a thing in the last two years that they got sponsored.
That's so funny. I love it every single time.
All right, Bill, you already did your hot seat? Yeah, the hot seat was the video and my cool throne is spreadsheets probably going to work out. Oh, so we're going to throw 100 on Villanova and Duke in a parlay.
Yeah, which is going to negate a lot of their because they're the most negatives right now and then put 100 on Kansas Moneyline actually 100 on the future for Kansas and we'll see how it plays out plays out. Nice.
And then we're going to put some on the women's. Oh, by the way.
Then we're putting it all on the women's. Jesus Christ.
So NC State, like, adding to Hell Week, they lost in, I think, double overtime to UConn. And UConn, NC State was the one seed, and they had to play at U UConn in Bridgeport.
It makes no fucking sense.

It was a clutch shot at the end of the first overtime, though.

But just brutal. Yeah, that was good.

It's tough.

They'll always have that.

Yeah, they'll always have that.

That and their 2020 College World Series.

Yeah, that's.

And I forgot that NC State's bowl game got canceled the day of.

Remember that against UCLA?

Baseball had the College World Series forfeit.

Yeah, what?

Wow.

Wow. Jake.
Wait. No tap time.
I thought they were the best team. No tap time.
Jake, Hank said that on yesterday's show, and I just said it like 30 seconds ago. Oh, no.
I had MC State as my hot seat. I was ready, and I just got it.
Oh, no. Oh, no, Jake.
Oh, Jake. Listen, it's madness.
It's Marsh Madness. But, yeah, I had forgotten the bowl game, remember, because I think it was in San Diego, the Holiday Bowl, and they canceled it so close to kickoff that there were, like, people tweeting, I'm literally driving to the stadium right now.
Yeah, I do remember that. In the last 25 years, what do you think is the best thing that's happened to NC State football? You could make the argument.
Philip Rivers. Well, they had a little run where they were the college of quarterbacks, where you had Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Jacoby Brissett, and Mike Lennon.
Before Duke was Duke, NC State was a powerhouse 100 years ago. Yeah.
Chuck Amato and his cool sunglasses. Yeah, they've had a few years where they've beaten UNC or Duke in a cool game.

Julius Hodges. What are you going to say? By the time you listen to this, the McDonald's All-American blog should be up.
Yeah. Wednesday morning.
Yeah. Also, Arkansas got three of them.
Did that trigger you a little with Eric Musselman when he had that picture? Yeah, no. Huge triggering.
Yeah. Really set off some bad memories.
Eric Bussman had three, I think it was McMuffins, on his desk because they had just signed three McDonald's All-Americans, which is crazy. The yellow wrappers, I can't really get over anymore.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jake, welcome back. Hot seat is me, I guess.
I had this tweet pulled off for my NC State on the hot seat. It was the three bullet points.
That was the point. Baseball, COVID forfeit, football, canceled.
Women's loses. Tough game.
It was a tough game. I think I like Stanford now.
I just like rooting for the tree every now and again. Yeah.
We could have an all-Cardinal final. I saw in UConn, what is that, like 15 years in a row? 22 out of 37 years for Juno going to the Final Four.
Jesus Christ. It's insane.
I have two cool thrones to redeem myself. One.
We'll be the judge of that. Is Albert Pujols.
He announced a retirement tour returning to the Cardinals. Yes.
Retirement tours are cool. Well, it's even more nauseating because he's doing this so that he and Yachty can retire at the same time and go into Cooperstown at the same time so puke you guys have never said bad things about retirement tours this is so all my all my enemies are doing retirement tours yeah and then rogers who i really want to do also the detroit lions yes hard knocks 2022 could possibly save the franchise and then everyone replied the colts in season was, which it was, but it was in-season.
And I had, like, Hard Knocks, true Hard Knocks, is the appetizer for the football season that gets you excited. They should not call the in-season Hard Knocks Hard Knocks.
Correct. It should be something else altogether.
Right. It is cool.
It is cool. We love Hard Knocks, and I think having Dan Campbell in Hard Knocks should be, at the very least, exciting.
And Jared. And you've got Jared.
You've got, I think, Mark Brunel is their quarterback coach now. Really? Yeah, I think I heard that from somebody.
But they've got a fun team that's set up to maybe do something this year, and obviously Dan Campbell factor, that's going to be must-see TV, so I'm pumped about that. Mark Brunel, quarterback's coach.
Also, to correct myself from earlier danny willett won the masters in 2016 that was his only pga tour win ah i remember that was a jordan spieth choke job it was okay so that's probably it right that was that was maybe episode three or four of part of my take yeah danny willett okay makes good answer yeah it's like right at the start yeah i'll still do notes up if you guys want but yeah i the context okay will it make sense will it make sense yeah so sorry for mike weir i'm sorry for the double nc state thing um all right let's get to our interviews we got buzz williams and then we got uh trent brown coming all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with Reese's and Hershey's only one Reese's peanut butter lovers protein bar is made with Reese's peanut butter and only one Hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with Hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and three grams of sugar one bars are the perfect protein bar to get you through your busy day, whether you need a quick pick me up between meetings or you need some fuel to power you through your next workout. One also has other delicious flavors like birthday cake, maple glazed donut and blueberry cobbler.
Find all one bars at a retailer near you or on Amazon dot com. okay we now welcome on a recurring guest friend of the program haven't seen him in i don't know three four years now it is coach buzz williams from texas a&m last time we had him on different school um i want to give you a compliment to start thanks and you don't you don't know what the compliment is yet It's rare that I get one, so whatever you say is going to be good.
Okay, all right, so you know last time we had you on, we came to your facility, we did a video, it was very, very early. Yep.
This is not as early. It's 10.30 in the morning on a Monday, but for us, getting up on a Monday and getting in by 10 o'clock, 10.30, we don't do it for just anyone.
So I want you to know that if you look around the room, we've all been up a little late and we're here because we love you. Thank you so much.
I love you guys. I'm sorry you had to start your week a little earlier than normal.
Yeah. 10.30 is late.
It is. On a Monday, it's early.
For us, it is. I think typically we're about, I don't know, four hours ahead of schedule.
But the last time that we did see you was in Blacksburg, and we came to your gym at, I think it was 6 a.m. I don't even know what that word means when I say 6 a.m.
It's not in my vocabulary. I still have pictures from it.
Yeah, you put us through the ring in a real quick workout. Kate was the best player.
Yeah, that was going to be my question. If you were to rank us from best to worst, you'd still have Kate number one.
Yeah, I think Kate is for sure number one. I don't know that any of the rest of you would be worthy of being on a list, but Kate would be one.
That was a great video and very fun that you did that with us. So you're here, NIT.
We're going to run this on Wednesday, so hopefully you're still in it. That would be great if we are.
Yeah, the question I always wonder about the NIT, obviously you guys have a great run in the SEC tournament. Disappointment not getting to the NCAA tournament.
There was a lot of argument back and forth. If you win the NIT, is that a little vindication? Like, hey, we really should have been part of it.
Is that the motivation behind this run? Yeah, obviously I said what I said and I haven't spoke on it again because I said what I believe needed to be said relative to our players and their parents and our institution. And the one thing that I've learned, Big Cat, it's only the second time that I have participated in the NIT.
Actually, only one time did we do it at Virginia Tech. It was our second year there.
Never have advanced to the Final Four. I think every team probably has a little different motivation in the NIT.
Is your team young? Has your team ever experienced postseason? Does your team really understand the difference between the NIT and the NCAA? Did they feel like they should have been in the NCAA? Are they grateful to be in the NIT? You know, there's a different vibe. And I think the vibe for us relative to our program, it has changed over the three weeks that we've actually participated in the NIT.
And a lot of those lessons you don't know prior to the first game. You know, we played in the SEC championship game on a Sunday afternoon.

Obviously, it's the championship game, so it's the only game left to be played in Tampa.

And you have to tell the plane when you're going to leave.

Well, how are we going to handle this? We don't want to stay in the arena three more hours until the selection show.

So let's just go back to the hotel and rent the rooms for for another night even though we're not going to stay another night and then you're wondering uh without ever saying it are we playing in the ncaa tournament are we going to leave tampa and go to dayton because we're playing in the first four and we barely got in right are we not going to the ncaa tournament whatever transpires what is it as the head coach that i'm going to say to our guys so uh we start the game against tennessee down 15 to 2 and end up losing 15 it was our fourth game in four days we go back to the hotel and i say guys why don't you shower and change and go ahead and put your stuff on the bus and I'll see you guys in what we had been using as our team room. And we'll watch the selection show.
It's the first time in our tenure at Texas A&M. This is our third season.
Obviously, year one, there wasn't a selection show and we were awful last season. So it was our first experience as a program watching the selection show here comes bracket one and a commercial bracket two and a commercial bracket three and a commercial and you know every kid is kind of on a different level in their understanding of like what is this they all act like they understand they don't know right not all of them right and so when the last bracket popped up and we're not playing honestly didn't know what to say and i didn't have anything to say and so i said guys get on the bus and uh so we left the banquet room down the escalator down the elevator to the bus to the fbo uh got home at midnight that night well the nit selection show happened while we were on the plane so i didn't i anticipated we were going to go to the nit right but i also anticipated we were going to go to the ncaa yeah and so so we land take the bus back to the office and uh we call it team bus one uh the people that are on team bus one everybody go in my office and we printed out the bracket and I said guys we're taking tomorrow off well our our first game was Tuesday yeah that was the next day it was that fast yeah and so you know I think as it has unfolded uh the things that we've learned and the fun that we've had and the experience that can never be taken away from our guys.
This is the first time Texas A&M basketball has played in the NIT seven times, and obviously they have never been to New York. So a lot of what's transpiring is historical, and we're grateful for that.
And hopefully when this is released on Wednesday, hopefully the Aggies are still playing. Yeah, and this is probably something that you can build off of.

I don't know what the stats are on it, but a team that does well in the NIT,

I would imagine kind of carries a little bit of that momentum

into the following season, right?

We're one of the younger teams in the country,

and even younger relative to experience with one another.

Obviously, those numbers have changed together over the last 38 games, and that's been really good stuff. But there's so many young guys on our team.
There's only one guy that for sure is not returning. I know in this day and age, that doesn't mean everybody's coming back.
But yeah, the practices, the film session, the camaraderie, the experience, the actual games, playing against teams in power five leagues that you haven't had an opportunity to play. Our administration, Ross Bjork, our AD, made a decision to let the NIT games be for free.
So the environment at Reed Arena has been tremendous in our three games there. So there's a lot of good things.
Obviously, it's almost Easter, you know, and we're still playing. There's only eight teams still playing.
So we haven't taken a break, but I do think when we're able to finish the season, hopefully we finish with a win. There's so much that we can build on for sure.
I also think the NIT and CBI, all these tournaments

they're fun just because if you've ever been part of a team, you know that that last time when it's like, hey, this is now changing, we're not playing together anymore, is brutal. So to have that stretch where it's like, hey, we can still do this.
We're spending time together. We're you know bonding together no matter what even if

it's a young team next year's team's gonna be different somehow it always will be the one thing that transpires that kids figure out almost it's almost like osmosis they begin to figure it out and it happens at different points and times and it's happened with this team our team wants to Every team wants to win. But there is an intangible quotient of our team just wants to continue to be together.
So part of the reason why they want to win is they know, okay, tomorrow we're doing film. Tomorrow we're lifting weights.
Tomorrow we have practice. Tomorrow we're traveling.
tomorrow they want that to keep going right and right and there's something about like we're fighting for one another we're fighting because we want to win but the ego part of winning it's really not the ego of look at me it's like no we want to stay together and they're wise enough regardless of their age to go as soon as the horn sounds and we lose that's the swan song that's it and I think that they have played like that at a competitive level even since we got to Tampa uh when it's you know lose and go home and survive

and advance whatever the thing every other coach says our guys don't use those words I don't use those words but they want to keep playing so that we can continue to work yeah are you guys the hottest team in college basketball right now uh that you would have to do some study on it uh we've won 12 out of our last 14 we lost at vanderbilt and then we lost to tennessee uh obviously tennessee was in the championship game and then we lost at vanderbilt by six um in that stretch of 14 games uh you know the one thing that i told our team like washington state was Washington State won four out of their last five regular season games. They won one and lost the second one in the Pac-12 tournament, and then they've won three.
So they've won eight out of ten. We won four out of our last five.
We won three out of four in the SEC tournament, and then obviously we've won three. If you were to rewind, I think it's – I think PFT, it would be the game after Valentine's Day we played at Vanderbilt.
So since Valentine's Day through today, we've lost two games, the SEC championship and then at Vanderbilt. It's not bad, and I think you've got to take it – look at the situation that you're in right now and you can't control where you're at right now you can just you know control what you're gonna do that's right um but there's some silver lining to it in that you're able to put together a nice little run you're able to keep these guys together a lot of them it sounds like will be coming back next year that's right and on one hand it's it's almost like this is a better outcome for what you're building on than if you had gotten to the tournament and lost in the second round.
The team's still together. They're experiencing success in a tournament.
I feel like that's a pretty good position to be in. After you get over the anger and frustration of not being invited to the NCAA tournament, I think that you can look at the silver lining in this and make a pretty good case that you're better off right now than you would have been had you gotten bounced early.
I don't disagree with that at all. We've won 26 games.
We've lost 12. Obviously, we have been playing at a very high level and have been successful.
And I think that's one of the things similar to what we were talking about earlier. Your initial response and your reasoning for wanting to compete in the NIT, it morphs, it changes, it evolves.
And you notice it in different ways relative to the relationship as a head coach you have with each of your players and one of our freshmen who is completely into ball and knows what's going on in recruiting and knows about this coach and knows about this player this kid's name is in the portal coach we need to recruit him coach what about this like he? Like he's going to grow up and be a coach.

And we win the first game, and we play Oregon a morning game because TV's dictating when we play based on when the NCAA tournament games are. So we play Oregon at whatever time.
It's like noon. Yeah, it was like 11 a.m.
It was like 11 a.m. I remember that game.
So the kid is texting me that evening, and he's like, Coach, did you watch this game? Did you watch that game? He's talking about NCAA tournament games. And I'm like, no, I'm watching Wake Forest.
I'm watching Wake Forest and VCU right now. We're going to play the winner.
I kind of know what's happening in the NCAA tournament we're playing in a different one and he's like coach we're still playing and it kind of hit me like he was beginning to see the silver lining like you said this kid he's going home that guy his season's over we're still playing yes we want to in the NCAA tournament, but there is some residual positive value that you discover,

particularly, I think, and I don't say this arrogantly,

particularly if you're able to get all the way to New York.

Right.

Because like you're saying, hey, we played in the NIT and we got beat on Tuesday night after Selection Sunday.

Okay, well, that didn't last long, but it's similar to what you're saying.

We played all the way until Selection Sunday,

I don't know. on Tuesday night after Selection Sunday.
Okay, well, that didn't last long, but it's similar to what you're saying. We played all the way until Selection Sunday.
If we played that early game Thursday morning in the NCAA tournament and you lose, you're home Thursday night, and now it's over. And so I do think that we've had time to process all of that, and I do think there's some wisdom that comes from the experience we've been able to be a part of over the last 20 days so in your run in the SEC tournament I don't know if you saw but I clipped your speech after one of the games I think it was after the Saturday game when you beat Auburn um you talked about how uh every day you give your team a red pill And I mentioned that.
Did you know the connotations of that online when you did that? Because it was very funny to me because the blue pill, red pill has become like a terrible argument online about politics. And then you showed up on a Saturday afternoon in March being like, I'm just waking up.
I'm giving my whole team the red pill. And I was like, fuck yes, Buzz.
He's like, he has no idea what this means online, but I love it. Yeah, and I think that's a microcosm of what a very narrow lane I live in.
I know. Because I can't remember who mentioned it to me.
It may have been Seavos like four days later because we had another. Yeah, you played Auburn.
Then we played Arkansas. Then we played Tennessee.
And it was like Groundhog Day every day at Tampa. And so anyway, and then basically two days later, I'm giving the statement to the world on – I don't agree with what transpired.
So I haven't been the most liked, nor have I ever been the most liked coach. But Sivas said, Coach, you remember when you were talking – I love Damian Fishback, the kid that played at Auburn for Cliff Ellis, who's the oldest coach next to Jim Boeheim, still coaching.

And so I've always really liked him because I think he knows what's going on.

I think he knows how to talk to coaches.

He's not so opinionated that you can't visit with him.

And his question, I thought, was right.

And I made mention of, what is the actor's name Lawrence Fishburne yeah and Keanu Reeves and the Matrix and we do quote shirts I know you had I gave you some when you guys came to Blacksburg we do 12 a year and the red pill from the movie and that's the how I spoke on the lesson was you you have to be willing to receive the truth and we've we've talked about the red pill maybe 300 times this season not only do you have to receive the red pill but you have to be willing to administer it and I can't be the only doctor of the red pill i need to be a patient of the red pill you guys need to tell me the red pill uh and you need to tell one another and so like if you say red pill within our program that's all we know and then when cvoss was mentioning what the other groups de the red pill, I'm like, C-Vauss, man, tell Big Cat, you know I have no concept what you're talking about. I thought personally that you were launching an attack against the deep state.
I thought you were basically saying that we as incels have to stand up for our rights. No, that's black pill.
realm you guys know like i'm oh i knew that was the best part about it because you mentioned it and i knew like your message was a perfect message for your team because the idea is like you need to speak hard truths to your players every day that's right but i'm just sitting there laughing because i'm like coach does not go online like he has no idea what he's saying right now in the in the greater scheme of online discourse yeah i have i have no concept about anything like that just just almost living living an alternate reality from what i mean you guys know that you guys talk to enough coaches and i think that's why coaches love you guys is they kind of feel like they can be themselves and not have to put on airs and and such. And like in our world, there's very few people that you can talk to of the magnitude and the platform that you guys have where a coach feels like he can be himself.
And I think that's why coaches think the world of you guys. But, like, yeah, man, I had no idea.

When he was reading reading he was saying coach you know on the internet i'm like see boss first of all if you're talking about the internet i'm out i don't even have a computer i don't check my email like i don't even know how to check my email so like yeah i'm not in that, that's why we love coaches, too, because they do live in their own world. They're so locked in, and they live, breathe, eat this stuff.
And we find, like, it's almost beautiful that there are people out there that it really doesn't just end at coaching. If somebody's just really into whatever their craft is and singularly focused, that type of person is very fascinating to me and somebody that I think that people can learn from um so so you when you when you go about your day what percentage of the hours that you're awake are you thinking about basketball good question yeah that's very high um I I um I read a lot I study a lot.
And I try to give my first hour of the day to non-basketball related. I'm just trying to feed my brain.
So you're offering to the world of one hour a day of not thinking about basketball. What is like, are you reading like message boards and stuff? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I literally don't use a computer.'m kidding i read um i read four books at a time and i read one book per week and i've done that for years how can you read four books at a time i would get confused i would get mixed up yeah i read yeah it's it's a little complicated but i read one in the morning when i'm talking about the one hour i study and then i read read one when I calm down after I've planned practice. I just kind of sit for 30 minutes and kind of make sure that what I have planned along with the staff is right.
So I read. And then I read when practice is over to kind of think through practice and make sure we did the right things and what we need to do the next time.
And then I read at night before I go to bed. The first three are to learn from.
The last one is in hopes that it'll help put me to sleep. But I've been doing that for years.
I could show you every book I've read every week for however many years you would want to know. And then I take notes on each book and so if you said hey Buzz I read I read this book have you read it I could look at my filter and I could say yeah I've read it I'll send you my notes on it I think you just invented spark notes yeah I know what that is and people have told me about it I don't know that I would know how to use it but yes it's my version of that when you're taking notes about your books are you are you recapping what you've read to lock it in or are you like writing down your personal reaction to what you've read both what what i'm learning how does it translate to what i need and then what is it that ignited a thought from what i was reading on what I'm currently doing and how to do it better so it's like if you looked at my notes on that book uh 80 of it you would go yeah this came from the book and this must have been what Buzz was thinking when he was reading the book okay and it's kind of the same thing like if you look in the book the young lady that does all of my notes you know I'll think of a play while I'm reading and just go to the back and just draw the play.
And then she's, you know, she puts it on fast draw and that's part of my book notes. But I've been doing that for a long, long time.
That's one of the gifts that I give to friends that I have that I write every month are my book notes from the month. Yeah, so I was going to ask about that because the first time we had you on the show, I think what really made us like you a lot is the story of how you got your first job coaching and how you just would write notes.
You would write these letters all the time to the point where a lady on campus had you hooked up with free postage. That's correct.
Multiple ladies, yes, sir. So are you still writing these notes or is it like a follow-up thing that you're doing right now how big is your correspondence network yeah thanks um if you looked at my calendar um it right now this is my 15th year as a head coach uh that daily discipline is write call email text so if you looked at my calendar, there's nine disciplines per day that I do.
Uh, I'm going to have a quiet time for one hour every morning. Uh, I'm going to read one book a week.
So on Sunday, it says one of the boxes is one book. Uh, but each day there's a box that says three times 25.
I'm going to read 25 pages from three different books. W-C-E-T, write, call, email, text.
So if you turned the month of March over and looked at the back of my calendar, there would be 120 names. 60 of those names are for me to learn from.
30 of those names are specific to Texas A&M. The president, the chancellor, the AD, the deputy AD, the largest donor, etc.
And then there's 30 that are connected to basketball. So those are my 120 and I rotate that list 10% every month.
So there's 120 people on the list. 12 are going to fall off and a new 12 are going to come on for April.
And so that's 120 people that I'm going to, in essence, write a handwritten note to. And then every day, seven days a week, every day of the year, I write two thank you notes and it can't be basketball specific.
So I have a manager that will read the Texas A&M paper, the local paper. Here is John Smith and he just worked and developed whatever thing and he got a grant.
And so I would write John Smith at Texas A&M a note. Hey, I just heard about you receiving your grant.
Congratulations for all the work. And then the same thing within Brazos County.
Um, that's the County that Texas A&M is in. Obviously, um, so-and-so just saved someone from a car accident and pulled them out at the scene.
Find, you know, the manager, hey, hustle up and find out who that person is, what their name is, what their address is. I'm going to write them a note.
So I write 120 people, 60 are to develop a relationship with, 30 are the people that in essence I work for, and 30 are connected to the game of basketball regardless of where I'm employed. That's 120, and then I write two thank you notes every single day, so that's 60.
So it's 180 notes that I write every month. Now, don't take this the wrong way, but you're crazy.
Yes, sir. I have a lot of problems but you're saying that out loud and i mean that in a good way because you're doing crazy for good like it's it's incredible what you're doing even talking about reaching out to random people that's that's awesome we need more of that in the world but you are crazy well that that it's like it's the red pill though it's just accepting of that and and our players say the same thing coach you coach you got a lot of problems yes sir i understood that but i told you that when i was recruiting yeah he's using your problems for good too yeah that's right you've harnessed your power that's right in a hyper-focused way where you're just a note writing machine yeah but it it's it doesn't change change.
I don't mean this in a condescending way. It's like, how do you read a book a week? It's just my habit.
Right. I've been doing it for a long, long time.
I was doing it before I was doing podcasts. Right.
Well, where do you find time to write so many thank you notes? I was, I was doing that like long before I was appointed a head coach anywhere. So it's not, um, like my wife, obviously I've been married almost 22 years now and we dated for a couple of years before that.
And so she met me when I was a division two assistant. And so like, life has unfolded we have four kids my two sons know if my two sons are more excited that I'm here than I am like they know everything about you guys they've listened to every podcast they know who these people are I don't know anything you know what I mean like I know the last time I saw you guys in Blacksburg that's what I know but my point is is some of what is being revealed publicly now it's I'm I am administering the red pill I'm telling

the truth but I'm not administering the red pill so everybody goes wow look at buzz but actually not at all yeah it's authentic yeah i was doing that right long before i met you guys at virginia tech long before i was at marquette like that stuff is just that has that's a part of my life yeah and that's helps keep me grounded. I want to write thank you notes.
It keeps my heart in the right place. I want to learn.
I want to read. I want to study.
It's the only way I can be malleable enough to keep up with the pace of this business, the pace of this world. You guys know about the changes in college athletics, specifically over the last year and a half.
I'm sure you've had conversations with coaches. Over the next five years, there will be more changes in college athletics than any previous 10-year period.
And it's because of the ability to not be able to adjust and so I don't want to become so comfortable buzz you do not have to write 120 people a month I completely understand right I actually agree but that's even more reason why i want to do it it's who you are

at this point that's right you don't want yeah you don't want to stop being who you are that's right because being who you are has gotten you to this place where you are right now that's pretty damn good thank you um do you ever write a thank you note to yourself no like thank you know i'll make it you know i'll make our continuing to write thank you notes we're uh we're um that's a tradition within our program if we spend the night at a hotel we're gonna be at a locally owned gym the next morning for the get better group and then the night prior to the game which typically speaking uh is the night that we're there everybody on team bus one has to write a thank you note and you cannot write a thank you note to anyone that you have previously wrote a thank you note to so you know you tell a kid hey write a thank you note the first person they're going to write is their mom the second person they're going to write is their grandma the third person they're going to write is their aunt the fourth person is if there is a male figure in their life but when you get to like number five or six they don't know who to write most of them have never written a thank you note they don't know how to address the envelope literally they don't know how to address the envelope they don't know the person's a thank you note. Where does the date go? Where do I write my name? Where do I write their name? And so that has been a tradition for, I guess, 15 years now.
If we spend the night in a hotel before you eat the dinner, you have to write a thank you note. So I don't know what time we eat tonight.
It's Monday. We're eat tonight at eight o'clock as soon as everybody on team bus walks in there's the people that have cooked our meal not there's not one person that will even touch the food you have to write a thank you note and that's the that's the ticket to eat write a thank you note and then you give it to the person that collects the thank you notes.
I love it because that is something that has lost just the gratitude and just going the extra mile of saying thank you to people in your life because we lose it day to day and we don't take those moments. So I'm in for this.
We should start doing it. And what ends up happening? This is me.
And how this started was I read a book. It was one of my books.
And the guy started at the bottom, worked his way up, became a CEO, was doing everything, had everything materialistically, did all the right things, and then lost everything. Lost everything materialistically.
Lost his wife, lost his children, lost his relationships, lost his wife lost his children lost his relationships lost his

job and ends up in some little one-bedroom apartment and he goes through multiple issues of substance abuse and on the back side of it realized that on his way up his heart was never in the right place. So when he got to the top, his heart was still not in the right place.
And while he was at the top because his heart was not in the right place, he couldn't lead. And you can't be authentic as a leader if your heart is in the wrong place.
And it's like I tell our players all the time, true love doesn't have an agenda. If there's an agenda as a leader, I love Big Cat because it's the most listened to podcast.
Okay, well then I want to be on part of my take. But the reason I like you guys, I have no idea.
And like I tell Sivas, Sivas, I don't really want to know because then it's going to interrupt my juju with these guys like that's big cat that's pft is kate going to be there and they're like coach she's not on the podcast i'm like well i didn't know last time i saw her she was in the gym yeah you saw you we walked up to her just when you walked in that's what i'm saying like i don't i don't know that sounds strange, but it's not strange in my brain.

No, I get it.

I get it.

Yeah, you're trying to live as authentically as possible,

which is probably pretty tough to do in a position like you have.

It's so, and I tell our players all the time,

you hear people say, you got to tighten your circle.

I don't think that that's the right words.

Your circle has to become a dot. And people think, and I've lived it, man.
I'm an assistant coach and I'm trying real hard and I'm getting to know this person. I'm meeting this guy and I'm learning this and I know this recruit and I met this AD and I met this search firm and I met this agent and this and that, and you get to moving and moving and moving and moving.
And then all of a sudden, when you, quote, make it, are you prepared?

Because then once you get there, if you don't know how to lead,

it's like I tell our players, I do not want to recruit you

if when I ask what is your biggest dream,

if you tell me your biggest dream is to make the NBA, I do not want you to come play for us. That is so limited.
That is so shallow. I want to make the NBA.
I understand how hard it is. I know there's only 450.
I know the numbers of it, the math of it way better than I could articulate. But if that's what you're telling me your dream is, I don't want you to come play with us because we go about this every day.
Like this is your dream. You are living your dream.
And if your dream is just to make it, then you won't make it. And how we go about it every it every day.
You not only want to make it. Hey, coach, I want to be a top 50 ever first ballot Hall of Famer and get to my fourth contract.
Okay, now let's talk about that. Now let's rewind from there on how, let's break it down.
Let's live life backwards. Now, how long are you going to be able to play to get to your fourth contract? You're going to need to play 15 years.
Do you know the percentage of guys that play 15 years? Let's start studying this, and now it'll give us a lens on how we're going to get there. But so many people, it's, how many people want to be you now? I feel like if your goal is to make the NBA, anytime you have a goal like that that has a finish line that is at such a young age or so early on, you just check off that box.
Once you get there, you're like, made the NBA. And it's a wrap.
We're done here. And, yeah, you can probably get paid a ton of money, have a good couple years.
And then it's over. But then what do you do after that? That's exactly right.
What's your dream, coach? I want to be famous in my home. I want to be my wife's best friend.
I want to be the dad and husband that my boys look at and go, man, if I could do that every day, that'd be a great life. And I want my girls to grow up and go, I love that my dad treats my mom like that.
And that's the kind of husband that I want to marry. And I know that the perception PFT of who I am and the reality of who I am, it's diametrically opposed.
And I used to, similar to what we're talking about, I'm in my late 40s now.

In my early 40s, I constantly fought that. I fought it internally.
I fought it externally. And now as I approach my late 40s, I give no emotion to that.
I give no energy to that. And I try to spend my emotion thinking about if if I'm 49 and this is the last year of buzz number four.
That means buzz number five is about to begin. And so in my 49th year, I've done four things every single day to prepare for when I'm 50.
And one of those things is, is I write my children every day they go to school. And I want to do that.
And I'm doing it every single day that they go to school when I'm 49 as one of the four things I'm doing in preparation for buzz number five. But here's the thing.
When you get to 49, you look back at 40, you look back at 41. I probably met you guys when I was 43.
I look back at when I was 43 when we did the first podcast, and I think about, I don't even remember what I said, but I know it was about, I was writing 425 coaches every day, every week.

But the best version of yourself, you remember, was your first version.

You weren't scared of anything.

When somebody told you when you were eight and they say,

Big Cat, what are you going to do?

Big Cat said, I'm going to be the starting quarterback for the Wisconsin Badgers.

I'm going to be the starting quarterback for the Wisconsin Badgers. That's what somebody, when they asked him when he was eight.
So you have no fear in your first version of yourself. And now as I'm going into my fifth version, instead of actually thinking about who I'm going to be buzz number five, I'm really trying to think about who does buzz number six want to be? Because if I can have enough wisdom to think about who buzz number six wants to be, then I'll be even better in buzz number five.
And so when you ask me, what's my dream? My dream is, is when I get to buzz six and I hope and pray that I get to buzz six. That means in buzz five, probably all four of my kids, I hope will have graduated high school, graduated college.
Some of them are probably married. Some of them probably have had children.
And that's to me, that's buzz number five. That's buzz number six.
And to me to me that's what this all should be and so if i'm famous in my own home that probably means i'm doing okay outside my home okay hypothetical buzz number five goes to how many final fours uh i don't know i don't know honestly big cat how much longer i'll coach really yeah i don't uh buzz number five is gonna do something different? I don't know. You don't know, honestly, Big Cat, how much longer I'll coach.
Really? Yeah, I don't. Buzz number five is going to do something different? I don't know.
You think Buzz six would regret what Buzz five did if he retired early? That's what my wife says. Yeah.
That's what my wife says. And then Buzz seven would kick all their ass.
My wife says, you talk about it and you act like it, but you wake up at four, where are you going to go? Yeah. I mean, that's a fair point to be like, are you physically going to be and so i've told her we can build a gym we can build a gym i can build an office in the gym we can like have members like a normal health club and then i can kind of run the health club and we can put the memorabilia around in my office it'll be a place that i can go every day talking about building your own basketball team.
You just want to work at a Planet Fitness. Yeah, just like Planet Fitness.
Yeah, just like Planet Fitness. Get a couple of good racks in there.
Buzz, we can let you do the lunk alarm or whatever it is. She's like, yeah, that'll last like two weeks, and then we'll have to move because you're going to want another job.
What you do is inside your Planet Fitness, you would put up two basketball hoops so that kids could play there when they came to work out. Then you'd start watching them, and then you'd start putting them into teams.
Every Get Better gym we go to, Josh, you guys know Josh. Josh videos the entire gym, all of it, the office, the equipment, the layout, everywhere we go with our program.
When we go to a get better, he sends it to me. I save it.
And then when I get home, I show up to Corey and go, I want when you build our gym, I want that right there. We need that in there.
And she's like, sweetheart, this is like fairytale land. I'm like, okay, well, just participate in the conversation.
One thing I'm trying to get better at since watching Ted Lasso did my brain a lot of good is trying to learn how to be curious and not judgmental, right? So one thing I've always been judgmental about in the past is the yell leaders at A&M. That's a real tough one for me to get over.
So I'm trying to be curious about them. What's their deal? What's going on yeah obviously that's a tradition at A&M and I probably should have a better education than I do the one thing that I would say on the Yale leaders this year the leader of the Yale leaders has gotten to know all of our players and all of our players have gotten to know him.

And there's four or five guys on our team that literally know all of the words and all of the signals for every yell. It's really cute and fun to watch our guys do it.
And so the leader this year. Ross hired, I think, an absolute all-star to replace a legend earlier this week.
Hired Joni Taylor as the head women's coach. I think you guys will be having multiple podcasts with her.
She replaced Gary Blair. Gary Blair was a coach for 50 years.
He's in the Hall of Fame, won a national championship. You guys know what I'm talking about.
He actually came on the trip with us as a retired coach. The Yale leader was at the press conference and I saw him, one of them, the leader.
And he said, Coach, your team this season embodies the core values. There are seven of them at Texas A&M.
And not only am I supposed to be there and it's part of what I do, but I appreciate and admire how you guys go about your team and representing our institution. It is unique to A&M.
It's part of what makes A&M unique. But if you've never seen it or never heard it, obviously I was there as an assistant a long time ago.
And so I am familiar with it. But I can understand curious versus judgmental.
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for Coach Wright. I think there's an incredible, obviously, once-in-a-lifetime storyline with Coach

K, Duke, and what Hubert's been able to do in year one at North Carolina. So that will probably

take over the week. But when we landed yesterday in in New York I was actually able to watch the only half of the NCAA tournament that I've watched familiar with Miami from our time in the ACC yeah uh the way Kansas played in the second half yesterday their talent is worthy of being in the final four their coach is a hall of famer but what they were doing defensively just absolutely negated an incredible run by Miami yeah so I I would probably be against the grain but I think within what I know and I don't know a lot I would say that Kansas is going to be right there.
I would say the same thing if you just watched the only half that you watched was that second half. That's right.
My last question is something that drives me nuts about coaches and I want your thoughts on it real quick. I hate hate hate and this is more because of the foul rules in college.
I hate when coaches sit a guy with two fouls for too long yeah how do you go how do you go about deciding it because it always like baffles me that yeah you don't want to lose him at the end of the game but you're also going to lose the game in the first half because you sat your best player for 10 minutes yeah i agree so a couple of things and i'll be succinct in how i answer it i've always kind of felt that away and then because it's have it has been me that's had to make that decision i kind of understand why most coaches do it so uh we have a really really intelligent staff uh and one of them i think is a basketball savant and so i tell tj exactly what you just me and I go hey TJ I need you to help me have some data on how to better understand this so I'm not doing it just because my instinct says protecting so what we did was uh time scoring momentum of the game dictates hey if it's if it's if you're about to lose the game in half, you've got to play the guy. Everybody kind of knows that.
But if it's a game, if it's a game and he's got two fouls, what data can we have that suggests if we play PFT, he's going to get his third. But if we play Kate, she's not going to foul.
And so there is data that we studied on our team, and we update it every third game. This is how often he fouls, whoever he is.
So, okay, PFT fouls every eight minutes. PFT just picked up his second foul.
Okay, there's five minutes left. Do we need to play PFT? We can because, Buzz, he only fouls once every eight minutes.
Right. So our decision now when that happens is based on what the data says up until that moment in time in PFT's playing career for us.
Okay. That makes sense.
Your data's way off, though. I fouled out one time in two and a half minutes.
Quickest foul out in the history of my youth league. Yeah, that was pretty fast.
Yeah, that was extremely fast. Maybe we want to hurry up and get you fouled out so we don't have to play.
That was kind of my strategy. And then that way, your AAU coach and your mom, when they call me, go, hey, why is he not playing? Well, we tried to play him.
He just fouls out every two and a half minutes. I was taking the choice out of the coach's hands.
I was voluntarily benching myself. Two of those calls were bullshit, though.
Everybody knows that. Well, thanks for coming on, Coach.
We really appreciate it. I'm grateful for the opportunity.
It's great to see you guys. And we're going to make sure to respect A&M next year and our Jake Palm ratings.
That data is formulated heavily. I hope we're going in the right direction.
I think we have some momentum and we have some traction. We need to add a little bit to our roster, but I like what I

anticipate will return. I love it.

We look forward to our thank you note, which I'm sure

is coming. On the way.

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out front. I got you.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. I was thinking was thinking about it one of the largest guests we've ever had i i think it's you and kane the wrestler it is offensive lineman trent brown fresh off assigning a new year a new two-year contract with the patriots so congratulations right off the bat thank you that's got to feel awesome um it's great to have you in here.
Are you familiar with our show at all?

A little bit

here and there? A little bit here and there, yeah.

We want to talk about everything

in football, but a lot of times what we'll do is

we'll just get right to the chase on one

question that's stuck in our head.

The tattoo.

We just got to do it.

Let's just do it right away. Let's just get it out of the way.

It's probably the greatest tattoo of all time.

Can you walk

I'm going to go. the tattoo.
We just got to do it. Let's just do it right away.
Let's just get it out of the way. It's probably the greatest tattoo of all time.
Can you walk us through the tattoo? I got this tattoo when I was like right after my rookie year in the league. And I just told my tattoo artist Al in Atlanta.
I was like, I told him a couple things that I wanted,

and then I told him he could have full artistic freedom after that,

and that's where he took it.

So when you said full artistic freedom,

how much direction did you give him?

Were you like, I want to see one titty on there?

Yeah.

So I didn't even have any women in it, but then after he drew, of course, you know, and all that stuff I'm like shit fuck it let's go with it It's the funniest tattoo whenever I see it I like laugh Because it's like listen It's your body and you made a tattoo that's like Hey I'm the man look at this It's. So what was your family's reaction? Everybody, nobody really cares.
My girl hated though. Oh, well, I would have just gone.
Why? That's crazy by her. What part do you think she doesn't like? Yeah.
Of course the ass. You know, it's crazy that it's really like two girls like bowing down to me.
Yeah. So for people who are listening and don't, I think everyone probably knows it because we've talked about it a good amount.
But it's Trent Brown standing there with two girls. One of them's wearing your jersey, right? Yeah.
Yeah, one of them's wearing your jersey. And yeah, they're having a great time, the three of them together.
But I mean, it's know what I mean like a bullshit tattoo it's some significance to it you know what I mean I'm a 7 round draft pick that's why I call myself the greatest underdog 7 round draft pick here I am going into year 8 and I've kind of proven myself to be one of the best offensive tackles in the game I think if you play for the Patriots you go somewhere somewhere else, and then you come back to the Patriots, to me, that tells you everything that you need to know. Where it's like, okay, if Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams or whoever's calling the shots are bringing this guy back, then he can play some fucking football.
Yeah, and you know, smart people will look at it that way. Some will look at it in other ways.
You still have a chip on your shoulder for falling to the seventh round?

Like, is there a small part of you that in the background you're like,

man, the Patriots fucked up too for passing on me?

Yeah, they did.

I mean, I remember, you know, long snappers,

all type of positions being picked before me,

and I was just like, just added to the fuel to the fire. Yeah.
So what was your path? Like you said, a great underdog story. Let's start here.
When did you realize that you were like a mammoth of a man? Because you're what, 6'8", 6'9"? 6'9", 370. 370.
At what point in your childhood were you like, oh, okay, I'm not like all these other little kids yeah always really i've always tiled over everybody pretty much yeah in every class every group whatever it was um and then like how old how tall were you in like when you were 12 i was probably like 5 11 6 foot jesus christ so you're bigger than your teachers when you were in like 6th grade. Yeah.
So like I remember for 5th grade graduation, you know, you got to get measured for cap and gown and stuff. So I was 5'9".
Wow. Jesus Christ.
I'm 5'9 right now. I'm 37 years old.
So like was there – what was the underdog story that you obviously went to a couple Different schools learning the position Was there a moment where it's like Okay I think I've actually finally Harnessed all this power and this size And everything because that had to be Part of it that like you're growing so Rapidly to figure out how to use Your strength It was always you know those moments where it was like, dang, did I have a growth spurt last night? But I think I always believed in myself and my ability, but the true light-turning moment for me was when I was after my first year in the league and I had gotten a couple starts under my belt. I think I started like the last six games for the 49ers, but I had come in like right before the first half was over against the Bengals, and they were pretty loaded.
I had Carlos Dunlap, I mean, him alone as a rookie to block him and hold my own. I felt like I did pretty good.
And then pretty much just went against everybody that they had up. It seemed like they were just trying to chop me out.
And I held it down. So it went from there.
You've gotten a lot of high praise from Vaughn Miller in particular over the years. It almost seems like he goes out of his way sometimes to be like, I hope somebody asks me a question about who my favorite tackle in the league to play against is because I've got Trent Brown ready.
I've got five nice things to say about him. I think I've seen like three different interviews where he's brought you up.
Now he's – is he following you? Does he have a crush on you? Is that why he's going to the Bills? He wants to play you twice a year? No, I don't think that's what it is. I think he's just real recognized real.
I mean, he kind of maybe has a little understanding of my history, my background, where I come from. And, you know what I mean? He's just showing love where it's due, giving credit where it's due.
He might also just be buttering you up just so that, like trying to make you read all the rat poison, like Coach Saban would say. I know he's not buttering me up because every time I see him it's it's definitely a job yeah who's the who's the strongest player that you have to block strongest yeah like most physical because there's some speed rushers out there that can get around you but so I wouldn't the most the strongest player I've blocked in my career I would have to say was Cameron Wake but uh I wouldn't I wouldn't say anybody just stands out from a strength standpoint.
It's probably tough to move you. Yeah.
Like there's probably not too many defensive players that can just like outmuscle you. What does it feel like when you are run blocking and you just know there's nothing that anyone can do to stop it? Is it like the greatest feeling in the world? I mean, that's kind of part of why I love the game.
Right. Honestly, just being able to move grown men against their will.
Yeah, because every time we talk to an offensive lineman, they're like, you know, pass blocking is part of the job, but it's when you run block. And I love that element where, like, you can't pass block the whole – like, I'm about the uh game in buffalo right yeah like we were at that game was that one of your favorite games because you just basically what you had three passes i think it was three passes the whole game i mean but i think that's that's when you could do that that's great but i mean of course you want to always have a attack, but when the weather doesn't allow you to and you have to do what you got to do, it's just you got to do what you got to do to win.
Before that game started, we were outdoors. Well, the window to our suite was open in Buffalo, so we were feeling the elements too.
Cold as shit. It was very cold, and the wind was just – I don't think I've ever seen football played and win like that before.
It was crazy. When you're getting ready for the game, what's the thought process to determine whether or not you're going to wear sleeves? So, as an offensive lineman, I pretty much know, like, no matter the conditions, I'm never wearing sleeves.
Or you just convince yourself that you're not cold, that being cold doesn't hurt. It's mental, for sure.
Yeah. Yeah? It's mental.
So, when you see, like, a defensive line, that's all, they've got the long sleeves on, they're all decked out, they've got the sub-zero masks and all that. Are you already like when you step on the field like I've got a mental edge on these guys because they can't convince themselves that it's not cold? Somewhat.
I just, for me personally, I think when you wear sleeves, especially loose sleeves, the sleeves catch the breeze and hold it in.

So if it just hits skin, it just kind of bounces off.

We were actually talking to Julian Edelman a few weeks ago,

and he was telling us about the little things that Coach Belichick likes to coach people up on.

For example, he hated it when Edelman would wear red gloves as a receiver

because the refs could see him grabbing hold,

and it would make it easier to call holds against him if he was wearing these highlighted gloves. Are there any, like, small things that he tells you that you had to change up about your game when you played in New England? Nah.
That's one of the things I love most about New England. They always pretty much let me be me.
They let me play my game as long as it's within the system, pretty much everything goes. What about – we've heard many times that Dante Skarniecki was one of the best offensive line coach of all time.
The best. The best.
So what was – that's a fascinating thing to me because you'd think that there are – offensive line has been happening for so long that how could any one coach get an edge over all the other coaches but it feels like he had that edge where he coached it better than everyone else I think it was just the attention to detail uh the love he had for the game and the love he has for the guys in his room yeah and uh I think the things he's willing to do for the guys in his room as far as taking up for you, say, in a staff meeting or something where other coaches would just let whoever berate you and everybody else in the room, you know what I mean? He's not one of those guys that's going for it. Right.
If anybody's going to talk shit about his players and the guys in his room, it's going to be him. And then he's going to love up on you after.
after. You know what I mean? But I think that's the best kind of coaching it is, the tough love kind of coaching.
But has your back. Yeah, but has your back.
What's something that he showed you detail-wise that unlocked your abilities? Was there one specific thing where he's like, hey, do this, or your hand placement, or how you use your hips, or anything that where it's like oh man so for for me i've always been athletically gifted uh physically too for that matter but um when i first got there it was just the drill work all his drill works translate over translates over to the game and then you do it so much and repetitive, and it's just second nature. And then I remember it was Jacksonville, my first time I was with the Patriots.
He just cursed my ass out on the sideline one time. And then that wasn't a good game for me because I was still kind of really trying to grow into a left tackle at that point.
And then the next week at practice he cursed me out again and I mean some people would get down about it but I was just like challenge accepted. From that point on that's probably the best football I ever played.
And then we just kind of grew to love each other. Yeah.
People have been talking for the last, like, I don't know, nine months about how Mac Jones at times didn't seem like a rookie in terms of how he was, like, commanding the huddle, whatever, in case maybe, like, locker room presence. Has he gotten to a point where he's allowed to yell at you guys? Or is it still, like, if Mac's yelling at have words nah hell nah ain't nobody anybody doing that because i mean if if you fuck up you fuck up you gotta be a man and take it on the team you know i mean that's what it's all about you can't be out here being sensitive yeah because i used to always see like tom brady like he was not afraid to go up to anybody and start i just curious what that runway is like for the rookie.
I think if you're the quarterback of the team, you're the leader of the locker room for sure. You know what I mean? And no matter what your age may say, but you got to handle business accordingly as well as everybody else.
Is it weird having a leader whose name is McCorkle? Nah, I didn't even know that. There you go, breaking news.
McCorkle Jones. That's what I call him.
That's a great nickname, actually. What about, so speaking of Tom Brady, obviously you blocked for him.
Was there any moment where, like in the huddle or whatever, where you had Tom Brady at his like pure, holy shit, this is Tom Brady, like we're good because he's Tom Brady? I ain't going gonna lie to you like I think that whole season I looked across the huddle and was like fuck it's Tom but I think that's as an offensive lineman that's just extra motivation to do your job because nobody wants to be the guy to give up that sack that sends him home right Right. Right.
Especially that Chiefs AFC Championship game, right?

Where you guys, you know, win overtime. Everything went in overtime.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the, yeah, the, was that on your side, D. Ford?

Yeah.

That was.

Did you know it was offside?

I didn't know it was offside.

Wow.

So you thought season's over.

I did.

But I was, that playoff, that whole year was fun for me. You know what I mean not gonna lie to you that was probably the most fun I played had playing football since I've been in the NFL yeah just first that was my first time really experiencing some winning football since junior college um my first three years with San Fran it wasn't great and then I there, kind of took off, won the freaking Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah. Wait, was your coach, did you have Jim Tomsula as a coach? Yeah, Jimmy T, then I went Chip Kelly, then I went Shanahan.
So what was Jim Tomsula like? A ball of fire. I mean, of course, you know he loves his D-line, but I think he's a guy that loves his players too.
It's just, I think you got to adapt to different people. You got to adapt, improvise, overcome, as my college coach would say.
Everybody's not going to be the same. Everybody's not going to coach you the same.
But you just got to take the meat and leave the bone. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
I know he used to, when he used to drink beer, he used to just crack open the top of a light beer

and then just dump hot sauce into it.

And that was his cocktail that he would make for himself.

That's a hell of a Bloody Mary.

He's a crazy guy.

I want to talk to you about something kind of serious that happened to you

because I remember before that one game, you were getting like an IV.

In Cleveland, yeah.

In Cleveland, and they put air into your body, right?

I don't know. um before that one game you were getting like an iv in cleveland yeah in cleveland and they they put air into your into your body right they were like a little bit sketchy with the details that they shared on television obviously um but when i saw that i was i was like concerned because that could be a big deal like at the time were you actually like worried about your safety so so basically I'll tell you the full story.

Basically, I was fresh off of COVID.

I was had COVID, had caught COVID for the second time.

And then, you know, it's two week quarantine period.

So on the Monday of that quarantine, on my second week of quarantine, GM hit my agent and told him we fully expect Trent to play this week. You know what I mean? I wasn't thinking anything of it.
You know what I mean? I'm thinking like I'm cool with that. That was my plans anyway.
So I started getting tested like Wednesday or Thursday. They running all these tests on me for COVID, blood work, cardiovascular, all this stuff.
I pass them. And then I practice Friday.
We get on a flight Friday to go to Cleveland. Then Saturday walkthrough, everything was fine.
Sunday, I get two bags before every game, IVs. And that shit just got air in my veins, and then they tried to blame it on COVID, but I had just gotten, you know what I mean, clear from all COVID protocols and everything, so how could you blame it on COVID? Right.
So it was just a whole bullshit and then after the season you know everybody wanted to try to blame it on me and make it seem like it's my fault I'm missing all this time and were you they let you stick the needles in your arm no I didn't I didn't hell no hell no so yeah why would that be your fault at all they almost killed me yeah so they basically weren't paying attention was that a concern like were you were you afraid that you might die from that i was scared to say i was laid out on the floor like basically i was just sitting there they pull out the the uh what is it the uh syringe or whatever and then i pass out i didn't i couldn't feel my limbs i'm shaking i'm sweating jesus like you know i mean so And then, you know what I mean? You say it's my fault. You want to talk all this shit about me.
But then I still come back and play when I didn't have to. I could have sat out the rest of the year.
You know what I mean? That's crazy. Damn.
So I had one last question for you, Trent. This has been awesome.
It's the Roback question. I don't know.
What size shirt for it okay respect that's that's legit uh i think i hope we have a forex for you because you can use promo code take you get 20 off your first purchase they make the best uh performance q-zips and hoodies r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com use code take for 20 off your first purchase so i uh you played with Chris Long, right? No. Against him.
Against him.

I'm trying to think. I think it was Chris who told me that you are the biggest man he's ever seen.
When you're in the locker room and I would imagine there's some roughhousing or bussing balls, does anyone ever try you? No, I don't even i don't participate in that type of stuff that's the luxury yeah yeah are you is that other people don't let you participate because they're like we don't want trent brown to like squash us nah nobody i mean that may happen every blue moon in some places but i haven't been many places where that's been a thing okay you may joke and shoot the shit like that but nothing really physical right it's big man privilege yes you know like you're walking around you're like it's crazy nobody ever fucks with you it's weird i think it's pretty good i think me i'm like getting chased down by like anyone above a buck i might i might get fucked with by a receiver or something every now and then, but it's just bullshit.

I think it was actually, it might have been Jules who said it.

He was like, Trent Brown is the craziest athlete I've ever seen in my life in terms of size and speed and strength.

I mean, it's not fair.

Yeah, I mean, like I say, I've always been athletically gifted.

When was the last time you were in a room with somebody that was bigger than you?

Probably like two years ago, my first time, my first encounter with Shaq. Oh, yeah.
I guess Shaq would be a good answer. That would be a good answer.
But that was even like a surprise to me because it was like, dang, he's not that much taller than me. That's what I really knew that day.
Yeah. He really might be a giant.
Like you could body him up. Yeah, yeah.
That picture of The Rock and Charles Barkley and Shaq,

have you seen that one?

It makes you just realize how small The Rock is compared to a guy like Shaq.

You think of The Rock as being like He-Man,

and then Shaq's like a foot and a half tall.

It's crazy.

Yeah, Shaq is huge.

Yeah, yeah.

So you re-signed congratulations again.

It's got to feel great.

Best of luck this upcoming season. Maybe a little addition to the tattoo.
I don't know. Have you thought about that? Adding another girl? I'll keep you guys posted.
Okay. All right.
Because, I mean, that tattoo. I think, yeah.
How about this? There's been some talk about reaching out for a certain wide receiver in the NFC West plays up in Seattle. Very fast guy.

Big guy also.

If you were to bring him over,

then you should get a third girl added to that tattoo in his honor.

It's kind of like his thing.

He'll appreciate it.

I think that's very doable.

If it goes down, I'll add a third girl.

Okay.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Trent, thank you so much, and congrats again on the contract. Thanks for having me.
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And can i just do a quick confession i i reread all the stories about coach k and dylan brooks this morning just to get my hate up even more it's hate week you have a fetish hey he lied to the world and then the audio came out and he just was insane story but yes i have a fetish that's fine why do i like flowers that's actually a great question that's a wonderful question yeah um they smell nice they look nice i think you might not like flowers as much as you like the gesture of like once in a while a guy taking time out of his day to think about you and so that's's, I think women just like being like, oh, he's thoughtful.

He thought to stop at a bodega for 30 seconds and pick up a bouquet and drop him off for

me.

That's nice.

Big Cat mentioned that the other day, the clearly, obviously picked up down the street

flowers.

Sometimes they can be a hindrance.

Yeah, no, those are bad.

When you come home with the flowers, they're like, oh, so there was a guy sitting at your subway stop with flowers. It's like one sad rose in a crinkled up plastic.
You should avoid that. But yeah, I think they smell nice and they look nice.
There's also, he definitely fucked up flowers. Yeah, those are the bigger ones.
You can also smell those out. Those are also at the bodega.
They're wrapped up, but maybe they're a little bit bigger than the subway rose. Yes.
It's just like, I'm going to get all the flowers. Yeah, you bring those home, and then she's like, thank you.
However, explain. What are your guys' favorite flowers? That's a great question.
I like a lantana. They smell nice.
Mint family. I don't know.
Roses. I like orchids.
Sure. Tulips.
Sunflowers. Tulips.
Da Vinci. Historically, flowers were given to be used as an ideal fragrance for women.
So that's why the men would bring the flowers and the women would make it into fragrances. That was the historical fact.
Yeah, orchids are nice to look at. My boyfriend is obsessed with the Arizona Coyotes.
Uh-oh. He watches every game and has almost too much Coyotes gear.
He does this weird thing where he watches their highlights literally every day from when they were good one year and made a deep playoff run, in parentheses. Another thing he likes to do is randomly blurt out the phrase, all right, Coyotes fans on your feet and welcome to the ice your Arizona Coyotes and then howls.
From my understanding they are one of the worst hockey teams ever and this obsession with living in the past is getting weird. The random announcements of the team coming on the ice and howling in public is very embarrassing.
What do I do? Please help. I think maybe you just ask him if he could save all that for when he's on the podcast with ryan whitney yeah this is biz his girlfriend right it must be yeah or the mascot is he the mascot wiley he sounds like he's the mascot this is um yeah i that's a tough one like a lot of franchises you can be like, well, you know, that's a cool passion.

Like, the Coyotes.

Whew.

I don't know.

I guess maybe.

Playing at Arizona State next year.

Yeah, hopefully you live in a nice, hopefully you live in Arizona so the weather's nice.

I'm grasping.

I don't really know.

Like, there's got to be, there's certain teams where you got to just be like, you know what?

I'm not going to do this.

Like, this is too much time.

That's me and the Wizards.

Yeah. Yeah, Billy.
I think. Yeah, Billy.
Roadrunner lingerie. Might get it going.
Yeah. Okay.
Sure. Did they make that? No bad ideas.
I don't know. Yeah.
They should. Me, me.
Yeah. All right.
This girl, for whatever reason, put a star in the E in sex. I like that.
Only half the times, though.

Okay.

So one time during Essex with a star,

I really had to fart while in missionary,

so I clenched as best I could to prevent it.

Successfully, I did, but after sex, regularly spelled.

Oh, no.

I don't want this question. No, I was with you, but it's not that bad.

Okay, all right, all right.

Successfully, I did, but after sex, my boyfriend told me how he liked how I clenched my vagina to make it tighter for him. So as this continues to happen, he will tell me it hurts because I clenched too hard or not.
This is a common situation during SX back again with the star. So she's farting and clenching.
She's got to eat more beans? Well, it's a very dangerous a very dangerous line like she unlocked like yeah right so she needs to just eat beans before sex so then then it's great for him until she farts yeah but i think if you actually explain that to him he'd be like okay i get it yeah no if you fart no big deal just clench yeah and he also be like well yeah I thought that was going a different way. And I'm still thinking about that, so I'm kind of shook.
Let's just go to the next question. What's up, fellas? I'm pregnant.
My husband and I are big football fans and have always dreamed of sharing our football Sundays with our son or daughter with the hopes that they enjoy just as much as we do. The problem is that I feel like a bad parent already because I'm a Lions fan and he's a Brown browns fan should we knowingly lead them into this life of inevitable loss and heartbreak or just encourage them toward a totally different franchise thanks that's a good question because i think you put it correctly like you're you're leading your child into pain and your instincts as a parent is to protect them however i think that a healthy amount of adversity losing growing up.
Oh yeah up actually has a good impact on the kid for learning how to deal with all that. Whereas if you just made them, say, a Patriots fan who also rooted for Duke, then they'd turn out to be a real piece of shit.
Why are you laughing so hard, Jake? I think you've got to have multiple children and then just figure out who's the bigger loser. And I think that would be the Lions.
Yeah, that would be the Lions. I don't know.
Not this year. No, but in general, franchise-wise, I think the Lions are the bigger loser.
Also, Hard Knocks is back. We should mention that, too.
Right, but then you pick the loser of the two kids, and you make that the Lions fan.

I mean, do you really want your son growing up in a world

where he roots for Deshaun Watson?

Well, by the time he gets old enough to remember,

Deshaun Watson, I'm sure, will be out of the league for some reason.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

Maybe you can have them root for different teams teams like the two of them that are rivals or just roof actually you know what roof or both that really is not i think lion if you if someone was like i have two teams normally people be like ew gross but if they're like yeah my two teams are the lions and the browns be like why would you do that to yourself that's actually valid yeah like you could totally i think that might be the only combination you could pull off be like yeah i'm a lions and a browns fan wouldn't it be awesome chaos though if you had two kids and as they were growing up you like let's just say that they're twins and you have them become one a diehard fan of like the red socks and the other a diehard fan of the yankees yeah and just create ultimate chaos and entertainment for yourself in your own home. Yeah.
That'd be awesome. Yeah.
Have them just brawl every day. All right.
Well, I'm with this one. Hey, boys, especially Jake and PFT.
Quick question. Do all boys not flush their pee before they get in the shower or is it just my husband? Thanks and fuck Coach K.
Hold on. One, why was it just for Jake and PFT? That's so weird.
And two, all boys pee in the shower. My chopped liver? No, I'm saying.
It is an unusual combo. I thought it was going to be like something that linked you.
Like I was going to be like a nasal spray question. But that question has no link.
Glasses question. I don't think anyone's ever asked Jake and I to take him to the devil's get-together.
Yeah. That would be an interesting visual.
Jake, which side do you want? Front or back? I don't know. Oh, come on.
You got to go back. Yeah, I think you're a back guy.
You're a back guy for sure. Yeah, guys just pee in the shower.
What are we talking about? Yeah, so he pees in in the toilet and then he doesn't flush the toilet gets in the show i will admit that sometimes i used to be superstitious that though that the water would get in your shower water i'm just gonna i'm just gonna admit that i don't think that's superstitious it's not i think that's just stupid oh fact yeah so how do you know but the superstitious that would be like a luck thing think that's just stupid. Oh, a fact.
Yeah. So.
How do you know?

But the superstitious, that would be like a luck thing.

Like today's the day that it's going to happen.

I know you're a fucking Dan the Plumber.

You think that your toilet water comes out your faucet?

It's the same room. When you flush it?

You don't know where that tube is going?

If you take a shit, your poop comes out of the tub?

What about do you not drink out of the sink not right after i flush the toilet i think it's normal for some people especially of an older generation to say don't flush the toilet before you get in the shower because it'll turn all the water hot right that's before modern plumbing system so if you live in an older house yeah it sometimes works like that but i kind of like hank's take though the more i think about it yeah if you pee it will go and then you flush it and then you immediately turn on the shower you're just bathing in your own pee yep that's exactly how it works but yeah what guy doesn't fucking pee in the shower i don't trust people who don't pee in the shower that's the most natural thing in the world even if i just peed i get in the shower i pee yeah it like pulls it out i'll sometimes not even take a shower i'll just stand at the edge of the shower. That's the most natural thing in the world.
Even if I just peed, I get in the shower and I pee.

It pulls it out of you. I'll sometimes not even

take a shower. I'll just stand at the edge of the shower

and pee in the shower hole.

I actually do that when I'm drunk. Yeah.

Because it takes less pain. Because of a bathroom

phobia, too. A toilet phobia.

Why? Sinks.

Showers. No, no, no.
That's not a phobia.

Any hole but a toilet. A hole's a hole.

A hole's a hole. I'll take any hole.
What about you, Jake? Take any hole? No, he's a mouth guy. We established that.
This guy, Jake, who's just, he's a fucking savage from the back and goes and fucks any mouth he can find. He's credentialed for the final four.
This is crazy. What are you going to say, Billy? Peeing on your feet prevents athlete's foot.
Yeah, I've heard that too. Okay.
I actually think... Whatever.
I've heard that enough where I think that there might be some truth to it. Also jellyfish things.
Yeah. That's fine.
If you get stung by a jellyfish, take a leak on it. And you don't have to wear batting gloves if you pee on your hands.
Yep. Moises Alu.
Yeah. Peeing in your butthole means that you won't get an itchy asshole.
So try that, Billy. Never tried it.
You should try it. Maybe I will.
You're flexible enough. Well, like lie on the ground and then blast it up and turn it around.
Yeah, you pee straight up and just quickly sit farther back. You have to do like a crunch right after you're done peeing? Yeah.
It's just like a fountain into your asshole. What a funny visual of just peeing in your own butt.
What if you just take it and you stretch it between the legs and pee directly into it? Yeah, just plug the hole? Yeah. You fuck yourself? No, wouldn't even get halfway around the equator.
Wait, if you pee directly into your own butt, would you eventually pee that pee out again? No, you'd puke it out. Come out the shower.
I think you'd poop out your pee. No, you'd puke out your pee.
No, you'd poop it like a bird. No, it goes up.
It's the elevator. It just keeps going up.
So you barf your own pee. It's like the shower system.
Right, exactly. Got it.
All the plumbing. Got it.
All right, numbers? Six. We really cleaned that one up.
22. Am I banned? No.
Why are we banned? I don't know. I messed up today.
Oh, no. 25.
39. 76.
Eight. Fuck.
Whoa, what did you guess? Six. I saw it.
I saw a single number. I saw Oh, cuz you're doing the coach K6.
I've also never got a fetish you have a fact I've never I've never got a Fetish you've got a fetish newborn horses. How many times how many fucking times of it's pissing me off now You've never won no Everyone else's one.
Yeah, how many times is everyone else won, Jake? I don't have that. I think I've won like two or three.
Two or three for me, too. Honestly.
I have a bubble once. Hank, you have zero? Hector.
I would. Yeah.
If you're in Hank's shoes, I would trade all my team's championships to just win one of these. That's actually more important.
You want to make that deal right now? I'll do it again. Would you rather do it this week or get the new number?

What do you mean?

If you can get the next number.

No, mental warfare.

What are you talking about?

No, I'm going to hit it again.

You're going to be right.

And then none of your team is going to win again.

But you'll get that.

Six.

Does this count or no?

Yeah, this counts.

Just for Hank?

Just for Hank.

I mean, there's no shot. Hank first machine.
There's first shot. What if he got it? There's no fucking shot.
Oh, my God. 76.
That's what I guessed last time. Oh, really? You always get 69.
I know. I actually changed it for the first time.
It would have just been the curse of Henry Lockwood. Wait, does that count for me? No, you didn't guess it? I guessed 76.
Yeah, but this is Hank. It was Hanks' moment.
Yeah, yeah. It was Hanks to curse his own teams, which, for the record, he just said he basically wants to win this more than he wants his teams to win.
We're putting this on the record? I'm a prisoner of the moment. When that popped up, the glare blocked out the seven.
I saw just a six. My heart stopped for a second.
It would have been. Witchcraft.
Hank would never have won anything ever again in his life.

It would have been incredible, and it would all be because of him.

Yep.

He tried to make a deal with the devil.

Oh.

Love you guys. Real shame.

No.

We can do this all day.

We'll be coming for your love, okay? Take on me. Needless to say, I'm on sentence sentence But I'll be so A little way Early learning Life is okay Say after me Is the better to be safe than sorry to take on me Oh, things that you say Oh, things that you say Oh, things that you say Oh, the things that you say Oh, the things that you say Oh, the things that you say Yeah, lifeful Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember He's shying away I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.

I'll be coming for you anyway.

Take on me. Take on me Take on me