JJ Redick, Russell Wilson Is A Bronco And Aaron Rodgers Is Back

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have J.J. Reddick in studio.
We catch up with him, talk about his podcast, talk about Coach K's farewell game at Cameron Indoor, talk some NBA. We also have some crazy NFL news.
We thought Calvin Ridley would lead the show, but then Aaron Rodgers went back to the Packers, and then Russell Wilson got traded. So an insane day in NFL news.
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Welcome to part of my take presented by I Trust Capital. Today is Wednesday, March 9th.
And holy shit, the NFL does not sleep. A lot of news just happened.
The NFL is king. I love reminding people that the NFL is king.
A flex. It's a big flex.
Every now and again Roger Goodell sees another sport start to get a little bit of shine. This is March.
Right. And people are talking about college basketball and Goodell's like, you know what? I'm going to press the button.
The NFL is king button and fully activate the league. It's essentially like all sports just happen in between big NFL moments.
It's like, oh yeah, okay, well we had a couple basketball games, and then Calvin Ridley, and then Aaron Rodgers, and then Russell Wilson. Let's go most recent and back from there.
Okay, because we're betting, we thought for sure Big Cat was going to lead the show with Aaron Rodgers. No, I think Russell Wilson is the bigger story.
Yeah, I think that's pretty apparent. I'm fair.
Russell Wilson changing conferences. MVP.
Russell Wilson is definitely the bigger story because Rodgers staying at the Packers was kind of expected-ish. Russell Wilson going to the Broncos is like, whoa, that just happened.
They both won the same amount of Super Bowls. Yep, that's a fact.
People forget that. Russell Wilson going to the Broncos.
I think it's a good deal for the Broncos. They gave up two firsts, two seconds, I believe, a fifth.
And then they gave away Noah Fant, Drew Locke, and I think they're getting in return Russell and a fourth. Yeah, they sent Shelby Harris as well.
That's right, yeah. So I actually, like any trade, and we've given this speech before, we have to immediately say winners and losers.
I honestly don't, like, it's going to be hard for the Seahawks to recoup what Russell Wilson is in terms of a franchise quarterback, top 10 guy that is very hard to find, and you basically are saying you have to nail these draft picks. And then on the other side, the Broncos, I like the all-in.
If they win a Super Bowl, it obviously all pays off. There's also the element that the Broncos are currently for sale, and having Russell Wilson as your franchise quarterback absolutely would help the price tag on that.
They're trying to attract Antonio Brown, who said that he's very serious. Him and Kanye West are trying to buy the Broncos.
Yes. This is booming right now.
This does actually play into it, and it's no surprise that the Broncos made this move two hours after Aaron Rodgers said he's staying in Green Bay, because it was clear the Broncos were trying to get Aaron Rodgers. Not a bad option, too, but there's a chance this trade just fails for everyone.
Yeah, no, it could, but I like it for the Broncos. I like it a lot.
And for Seahawks fans out there, they've been living in like a fantasy world for about the last 10 years. The Seahawks, they're no better than us, Big Cat, as fans of the Commanders and the Bears.
They've just been on a great run because they found a great quarterback. Right.
That could kind of make everything go away, make things feel good. Now they're going to realize like, oh shit, we really had something in Russell Wilson, I think.
I think that the Broncos won this trade because they've got a quarterback. This is kind of the Broncos' move, too, is going out and finding a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, bring them into town.
We saw that with Flacco, obviously, Peyton Manning. The difference being, wasn't Peyton Manning, was he a free agent at that point? He was released, usually.
So they didn't have to give up a lot of future picks. And, know, I mean, Noah Fant was what, a first round pick two or three years ago.
Like that's my only point is that the Broncos, they're going to be a lot better, but can you win a Superbowl with Russell Wilson and giving up a bunch of picks? And you're also playing in now easily the hardest division in football. It's not saying you shouldn't try.
Obviously, you should try.

I like that fact.

If I was a Broncos fan, I'd be pumped.

I'm saying more in five years, we could look back and be like,

oh, so the Broncos went to the playoffs twice,

and the Seahawks didn't really hit home runs with their picks,

and both franchises were kind of worse for it.

Yeah, huge come up, though, for Derek Carr, really,

because everyone's like, this is by far the best division in the quarter look at the quarterbacks that you have to compete against Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Derek Carr. He's getting he's getting though the um the the dragon meme with like the three dragons that are like scary and one that's goofy with the eyes crossed.
That's a tricky one but I've seen more of people saying like look how stacked this division is. I agree.
I like Carr. And Derek Carr is like, actually, it's probably the biggest God division in football right now.
I think Herbert's a God guy, right? Mahomes is kind of low-key. He's from Texas.
I feel like you're at least half a God guy from Texas. Russell Wilson makes it a runaway just the two of them.
Those guys are 100 out of 100 good guys.

God will be watching. God hopes that AFC West games get on primetime this year.
Yeah, and Denver is the closest city to God in the NFL. But it's interesting because this goes against what John Elway has done in the past a little bit.
He's not 6'5". He's not 6'5", and also he's not calling the shots anymore the same way that he is.
Like he's been John.

I feel like they've just been making up new titles to move him farther away from

you're the GM.

But yeah, you're right.

The shortness of Russell Wilson probably has John Elway disgusted right now.

I do like it for the Broncos, though.

Honestly, I do think that Russell Wilson is one of the quarterbacks that can take any

team and turn them into an instant contender.

I would say any team in the NFL, you put Russell Wilson on a team, they're probably going to be favored to make the playoffs. Right, but my counterpart to that would be, have the Seahawks been a contender the last five years? I think with a healthy Russell Wilson, they've always been in the playoffs.
They've been in the discussion. Right, they've been in the playoffs.
I'm just playing devil's advocate. Obviously, I would kill for Russell Wilson, but it's like he's a 33-year-old quarterback who, you know, you're not getting, probably not getting his prime.
And quarterbacks play a lot longer. And you've also given up a lot of picks.
I don't know. And you're playing against Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Derek Carr.
Shout out to Derek Carr. It's one of those weird trades.
I look at it, I'm like, it makes sense why everyone did it. I just don't know if anyone's going to.
And if you want to judge it purely off Super Bowls, then it's obviously the odds are in my favor to say neither team's going to win a Super Bowl in the next five years. But how many playoff appearances will the Broncos and the Seahawks have combined in the next five years? I guess the Seahawks are a little different timeline now.
Yeah, Seahawks are on a different timeline because Drew Locke, as much as I love the guy, throws the best incompletions in practice in the NFL. I'm ready to admit that I think I was probably wrong about Drew Locke.
And they're also trying to get rid of Locke. So it seems like the Seahawks are entering into a total, complete rebuild from the ground up.

And by the way, I think we need to have our guy DK's back on this.

I think we need to now free DK.

Yes.

Free DK.

Bring him to the Bears.

Bring him anywhere.

Just get DK out of town.

Seahawks.

Let's go see.

I mean, not Seahawks.

Seahawks are rebuilding.

Broncos make the playoffs three times in the next five years.

Okay.

They've got a good defense. They do.
The Broncos have a good team. It's more how stacked the AFC is now.
Would you say the Broncos will have the one seed at least once in the next five years? I wouldn't make that bet. I wouldn't either.
You know what I mean? It's less about Russell. I think Russell Wilson's a great quarterback.
And you have to try. Again, I think the Broncos have to make this move.
I just don't think that it's one of those things where you see it and you're like, oh, the Broncos now officially Super Bowl contender fully. You know what's going to be sick, though? I just thought of this.
You know how Russell Wilson, he's the king of throwing the teardrop passes. They go up in the air.
They touch the cloud. They come down with a little bit of Seattle rain on it.
Imagine how high he's gonna be able to throw the ball in denver yeah it's gonna be electric it's gonna be fun i i think that this is a good move for the broncos i also see looking around the nfl like you mentioned earlier this it's no coincidence that this happened right after the aaron rogers news right it's like uh no spoilers for love is blind but like jared and alana when mallory says no to him and then he has to find somebody else right afterwards. We're entering the time of the NFL season where it's getting late.
You've been at a bar. You're looking for people.
Maybe take home for the night. And your options are starting to get dicey.
And so you're like, okay, I better spring now. It's 1.15 in the morning.
Aaron Rodgers just left.

Russell Wilson's pretty good.

I'll take Russell Wilson,

and then you're going to have teams waiting around,

waiting around, being like,

you know, I can talk myself into Mitchell Trubisky.

And then at the very end, after everything's out,

the last two guys in the bar that are giving you some stink eyes,

you've got Jameis Winston, Deshaun Watson.

You're like, who wants to take a chance with those guys?

I think Jameis is higher than Mitch.

You think so?

Yeah.

Right now?

I don't know. guys you've got Jameis Winston Deshaun Watson you're like who wants to take a chance with those guys oh I think Jameis is higher than Mitch you think so yeah right now Jameis was playing really well last year it is true though like this is how you end up going home with Sam Darnold and being like let's pick up his fifth year option this will work yeah Deshaun Watson you're like your friends are texting you on the way back in the Uber like you okay yeah let me know when you're And this is actually, well also you could say the same for Jamison and Uber.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Like Jamison and Deshaun are the two that are wild cards. The that is, in that analogy that is why the trade obviously makes a ton of sense for the Broncos because you do have a quarterback for I don't know,, let's say five years at least, that it feels like you're confidently going to have a franchise quarterback and you're going to be in the discussion.
I think the real question is, if you're the Broncos, would you rather have five years of Russell Wilson, paying him a lot of money, giving up what you've given up, and he's a proven commodity, or would you take a chance and go for somebody in the draft, Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett, those kinds of guys. Yeah, I don't know.
It's very tough because there is an element of just continually saying, let's build, let's build the right way. But if Russell Wilson becomes available, you have to take your shot.
Again, it's less about Russell Wilson. It's more about just how fucking hard the AFC is going to be.
The AFC is a gauntlet. One of my favorite things is when the analysts get in front of the camera, they go, the NFL is a copycat league.
And it's kind of true because everyone just, like, chases what's been successful recently. And Tom Brady won a Super Bowl.
Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl. I think more teams are just going to try to say, I'd rather take a shot at acquiring a free agent quarterback, maybe towards the end of their career, and then use all my draft capital on skill positions and the line.
It makes sense. It makes sense.
I mean, you know he's obviously a great quarterback. All right, so should we talk? Aaron Rodgers is back with the Packers.
He completely ruined International Women's Day. Sorry to all women out there.
Any women out there, if you're feeling disrespected, please slide into the DMs of part of my take and let them know. Yeah, it was fucked up what Aaron Rodgers did.
I think the worst part for me is that my stupid brain let myself believe that maybe he wasn't going to come back, but he always was. It was always going to happen.
Aaron loves doing this every offseason where he pretends like he's going to go, and then he spends time away from and then he comes back after doing the ayahuasca and he's like, you know what? I've realized that certain things are important in my life and that's the friendships that I've made here. And $200 million.
And $200 million, which apparently is not true, which is also perfect. Aaron Rodgers did.
The announcement happened and then he immediately was like you guys are all spinning

falsehoods and the media

lies again. I'm going to be

canceled again. It's like $300 million.

Yeah, right. So here's

a good spin zone for you. I think that

if Aaron Rodgers doesn't win

three out of the four next Super Bowls,

this contract is kind of a bust.

If it is, $50 million. If he's the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.
Well, the cap's going up. You would assume.
The cap is going up. The cap's going up, but you would assume that the highest paid player ever would also be a player capable of leading you to Dynasty.
You would assume. So I'm back in the torture chamber.
He's going to torture me, whatever. The only thing that I can hope for is that he doesn't win a second Super Bowl with the Packers.
Because that's why I was letting myself believe. That's why I was so happy in January when the 49ers beat him.
Because having Aaron Rodgers for 15 years and only winning one Super Bowl is as loser talk as it is. Because it is truly loser talk.
Basically making fun of your rival for being like, you only won one Super Bowl. That's what I have to hang my hat on.
And now the idea of him finishing his career and going out on the white horse, I'm now facing a couple kill myself games with Coach K's retirement and now Aaron Rodgers. I don't think we can say that.
Okay, well, we can bleep that out, but it's not good. This isn't good.
I'm not. You're going to K yourself.
It's not you're gonna k yourself bad it's going to be bad like I just hope that he sucks up so much money that um it just they can't have a defense and those are my favorite Aaron Rodger teams when he's awesome the regular season and they get to playoffs and his defense sucks I it sucks I'm not happy it's to be torture. I'm back in the torture chamber.

I think he truly looked around the NFC and was like,

it's kind of back to the Russell Wilson talk.

Aaron Rodgers looked at the NFC North and was like,

wait, I can keep just beating the fuck out of these teams?

Why would I go to the AFC West?

Yeah, it makes sense.

The only other option that I thought made a little bit of sense for him

was Tennessee.

Because in Tennessee, it's kind of the same situation

where you have teams that you should be able to beat handily for at least the next couple years unless they make some big-time moves. That would have made sense if he had been a Titan given what their defense does occasionally when they feel like playing, what their running game does.
That, to me, seemed like it was a good fit. But you're right.
Why would you stop playing willingly twice a year against the Lions, the Bears, and the Vikings? Yeah. It's a free ride.
It is kind of messed up. So if I was a Packers fan, I would be elated that he's coming back.
But at the same time, he does this so much to them. He's going to keep doing it.
He's Jenny from Forrest Gump. Yeah.
When she keeps showing up. You're dropping some sick analogies today.
Colin Coward hat is on.

Is on smoothly today.

You know, Jenny comes back and she's like, Forrest, I love you.

I'm sorry for treating you like shit.

Sorry that you've been crying and lonely for the last five years.

Let me just bone you one night.

Right.

And then I'll leave again in the morning.

Oh, here's a son.

I'm bringing back to you.

I'm actually not going.

I'm going to go off in the distance for a while and go do drugs and threaten to jump

off a ledge and then come back to you. We'll make it up.
but he kind of does treat them like shit yeah no he does he absolutely does and he's going to keep doing that and he's going to be like if they have a early exit he's gonna be like i have no help even though he's taking up a lot of the money i yeah as an aside i wish we had someone who could just explain the salary cap to us consistently and just be like,

it is just complete bullshit all the time.

Because everything, nothing matters.

Who's the biggest math guy that we have here?

Jake.

Jake?

Billy's low-key sick at math.

I can do some research, probably.

It just never makes sense.

Your sports biz.

Yeah.

The cap just doesn't...

Everyone's in salary cap hell, and then a year later, they're totally fine. kind of like the idea of billy being like that's cap with billy football yeah he's got a spreadsheet salary cap segment which is going to be completely wrong i'll try to dumb it down as much as i can oh thanks for yeah thanks for appreciate that for us this is the guy who creates the spreadsheet which is coming back next week yes it is i'm very excited for it but yeah the the packers are going to still...
The Packers are going to probably have, going back to the one-seat conversation, they'll probably have the one-seat at least two times in the next four years, just because they play in a division, in a conference now, like the NFC. But shouldn't Aaron Rodgers want to not have home-field advantage in the playoffs? He just doesn't want to play in the playoffs.
I think he just doesn't like playing in the cold in Green Bay in the playoffs. Yeah.
And then our last story is we have Calvin Ridley. This is, it's been a crazy 24 hours.
Calvin Ridley suspended one year for placing parlays, three different parlays, three, five and eight team parlay back in November. My type of guy.
Yeah. When he was on mental health rest.
You think he was riding? You think he was a can't lose guy? Or was he a hungry dog? No, Mike Vick was the fan of the hungry dog. You walked into that one.
It's a story that's very funny because it's very hypocritical of the NFL, obviously. What game do you think Calvin Ridley will score his next touchdown? Can we bet on that? Because that would be cool.
I'm sure the NFL will be like, hey. So one of two things is going on, I think.
Either they're just doing a send a message thing that this won't be tolerated. They have to.
Or there might be something more that was going on with Calvin Ridley in terms of how much he was gambling. It seems pretty harsh, and I get why the NFL, even if it is just the $1,500 in bets, I get why they have to say the players are not allowed to bet on the games.
That makes sense to me. I get that because there's too much money at stake in terms of, yes, they are in bed with the gambling companies, if there's like a loss of legitimacy in the game, then those gambling companies won't have as much money to bribe the NFL with in the future.
So they're hypocrites, but at least they're kind of honest hypocrites about it. Well, it's the NFL has been hypocritical about gambling forever because they've basically pretended that it didn't exist for the longest time, even though, if you took away gambling, if you had a button where all gambling, everything, like illegal, legal, was just a race, no one could bet on anything, what do you think the NFL's TV audience would do? Half? Yeah, probably about half.
It would be crazy. Like we're counting fantasy football and all that.
Everything. Like a Thursday night game between the Jaguars and Titans.
You think people are watching? Like the country is watching just for that? So it's been hypocritical for a very long time. They pretended it didn't exist, even though everyone gambles.
And then when gambling became legalized, they got, you know, obviously they're taking a lot of ads. We're not an official sponsor of the NFL, so you can't come at us.
Roger does not allow us to. I've actually sanctioned the NFL.
They're not allowed to do business with us. Right, exactly.
So in that respect, they're hypocritical. But I totally understand people saying, well, why can't Calvin Ridley bet? I get why you can't bet.
It's like you can't. Gamblers are crazy.
So they all think that everything's rigged. You had Emmanuel Acho thinking everything was rigged.
Emmanuel Acho is literally an insane person. I don't know if you've ever watched his show.
I have not. He is insane.
That was... He also steals tweets.
You know that? Well, he stole that video from someone. He's stolen tweets from me, and then people call him out on it, and he goes, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.
He's crazy. I think flattery is the most sincere form of flattery.
That's true. Just saying, good job.
Retweeting is the most sincere form of flattery. Just say, hey, PFT, I like your joke that you made that everybody else also made.
Yeah. But that was the easiest W of my life.
I did that during my son's bath time. I was half paying attention, and he just wasn't making any sense.
You just scrolled by his tweet and saw it? No. I was maybe put onto his tweet by a friend, but then after it started, I was literally doing fucking soap in one hand and dunking on Emmanuel Acho in the other.
His tweets back to me were shockingly stupid. But were they? So let's clarify what he was saying at first.
Read the tweet. He deleted it.
Because at first Emmanuel Acho took a video and he said something along the lines of, I'm not accusing Calvin Ridley of betting on anything else than what he was accused of, but this evidence is damning. I feel like I'm looking through a kaleidoscope at an encyclopedia trying to figure out what those words mean.
He was, in fact, accusing Calvin Ridley of point shaving or yard shaving. And it was a pretty damning video if you just look at those clips.
He had those guys beat. I don't think Calvin Ridley was throwing games while on the field at all.

But this video is very damning.

And it was three plays of a career that has had 250 catches.

Also, if you looked at the stats from those three games,

he had like 400 yards, three touchdowns, and like 15 catches.

Either way.

So I was like, this is a bad tweet.

And he said, why is that?

And he just doubled down. His stupidity, he wrote back, I don't think he threw games as stated, but I can acknowledge when video evidence doesn't look good.
And when you break away from defenders, which you clearly beat, then circle back to get tackled, I can understand why some people might think he threw games. So he's saying he's doing the, like, no offense, but you're ugly.
Right. Right.
So if he's doing a bit that was actually the funniest bit ever By Emanuel Acho but I Unfortunately think he was dead serious He's incapable of bits remember this is the guy that said That we should outlaw marijuana in the Olympics Correct Because who knows where the javelin throwers will hurl the sticks Yes And then he subtweeted me with i'll play this sound because

it was um well he doesn't know you he doesn't know me he doesn't know who i am so i sent him buff cat hopefully he thinks that's actually who i am that would be sick this this uh subtweet i i was trying to make sense of it oh no he might have he might have deleted that he's been deleting a lot of tweets so oh here we go ready tell me if you guys can understand this Wait

When people don't take the time to get to know someone then they default to what they know about people that look like that someone they never took the time to know um when people don't take i think he's calling me race i think so yeah then they default to what they know about are you saying that his brother also has bad tweets? They never took the time to know. So that was the sub-tweet where I'm pretty sure he called me racist, which is, okay, your tweet was bad.
Okay. I don't care who sent it.
As an anti-Nazi podcast. Correct.
I think we take offense to that. And disavowed Putin.
Yep, facts. Which is confusing because Putin also disavowed Nazis.
That is got my brain in a pretzel on that one. We're dog chasing his tail here.
We're very dumb. Basically, what we're trying to say is all the good things that you want to believe in, that's what we believe in.
Yeah. And none of the bad things.
Yes, yes. But yeah, I made a new show.
Easiest dub of my life. I don't even...
I've got an idea for what the NFL can do, though, to move forward with Calvin Ridley. Tell me this wouldn't be a great idea.
If we were running the show, this is probably what we would do to handle it. They should have Calvin Ridley create a weekly eight-leg parlay this season.
And if he hits it, he gets reinstated immediately. Put a live stream on him while he's watching all the games, trying to get his career back.
Yep like it oh you could also just do one one pick a week calvin ridley's lead pipe lock every time he gets it right it's one game off the suspension sure so like halfway through the season if he's eight no he's back yeah imagine the views that you could do on this it would be great i wouldn't put it past the nfl like i said i was joking but there's definitely some place that is going to put out a line of like when will Calvin Ridley first appear in an NFL game again? So we're going to bet on his suspension of the betting. His suspension of betting.
So we went back and we looked at some of the games. It was late November is when they said that he was accused of this.
So it could have been the game against the Jaguars that the Falcons won. So Calvin Ridley might have taken the Lunder.
He might have. That was the original Lunder game, I believe.
He might have. As an empath, I can understand his shame in losing money on betting the Lunder.
Yeah, you heard the name. And just betting on the Falcons, that has been a problem of mine for a very long time, where you see the first-round picks and you say, like, Calvin Ridley knows those dudes.
He knows they're all first-round picks. You know what the NFL should also do is they should take all the gambling money that they're getting, work those into some of the contracts as incentives, and have every player that's eligible, automatically every game, you're betting on your own overs.
All your overs, your touchdowns, all your props, your teams against the spread. So it's already worked into their contract, so you can't bet against it.
Just like a little extra sprinkle on top for the players as an incentive. To try.
To try, yeah. They should just let the players gamble.
They should not. As long as they bet on themselves.
They absolutely should not. It would be such a can of worms.
The problem with betting on yourself every game is that when you don't bet on yourself in those games, you're strongly implying that you think that you're not going to do well. Correct.
And also, if you bet on yourself, even if you're trying extra hard, but now you're also trying to cover a spread, which might make you do things that are different than trying to win the game. Yeah.
Which we oftentimes will implore. Todd Gurley.
Implore coaches and players to try to cover the spread and not care about actually winning the game. Yeah, the bottom line is everybody in the world is a hypocrite.
And if you say that you're not a hypocrite, you actually are the biggest hypocrite of the world. True.
Well, actually, let's back up there. Because, listen, it's not like, just a crazy analogy it's not like we let like politicians buy stocks no no it's not like so it's not that no you're right we stopped them there so we got to stop players nancy pelosi will introduce a bill making it okay for players to bet on themselves without telling anybody yes so i mean the whole the story you think nancy pelosi gamb Barstool app? Yeah.
Well, no, California isn't legal. Would that stop her? Probably not.
She's probably got to... Her husband, one of his houses.
She's got bag men in Vegas running around. I'm sure.
Betting on 18 parlays. Long time stooly.
I do think, though, that Goodell, as much as we hate him, it was smart of him to just come out and the suspension was announced with the story. It wasn't like the story happened and then we waited.
He was just like, yep, this happened and he's getting suspended for a year. Yeah.
So I don't know all the circumstances around his leave of absence. I know that he said that he was taking a mental health break.
But there are going to be a lot of people that look at the timing of that and look at his suspension for gambling and wonder exactly what was going on this right yeah it's it's the the last 24 hours the nfl is truly king you like that trick i just said i said like i'm not saying it but a lot a lot of people will look at this the emanuacho and say that correct yes people that look like me yeah exactly do you if you don't chicks if you don't think about people who if you don't get the time to know someone who doesn't look like you then you think they also are someone who you don't know who looks like you but also wasn't he the one that said he didn't take the time to know who you were correct he doesn't know who i am he also asked me he he asked me to block him because all of our interactions have been negative, which I don't even follow him. Why would I block him? Why would I block him for bad tweets? I don't know.
I'm telling you, the guy is an insane person. Yeah, yeah.
He's nuts. All right, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throw, and then we have an unbelievable interview with J.J.
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My Hot Seat, oh, let me get rid of the bonk list. My Hot Seat is, I was updating the bonk list earlier, I'm not going to tell you who said what and what was being put on, but that was at the top of my notes when I had to pull up Hot Seat Cool Throne Ashes.
Mystery resume season. Yeah.
Blind resume. Blind resume.
Just the numbers, but no names. He's got to count now.
X person followed every person named Brandy on Instagram just in case one of them was Coach O's wife. Got it.
Yeah. We know who that is.
Okay. That's it.
That's all you're getting. There's about 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
There's 14 cases on the bonks list. 14 bonks.
That's not bad. No.
13 of them are PFTs? No. No, less.
Less than 13. You're on there a couple times.
12. Is Jake on the list? No.
that's a two two man show right that's us to me actually yeah all right jake's not yeah uh but yeah let me get rid of that and my hot seat uh my hot seat is spotify oh they they went down today they were trending there was like over you know that everyone was talking about how spotify was down i don't know because they took away some of Joe Rogan's podcasts and he was fighting back, like re-censoring the people that censored him. I don't know what's going on.
Joe Rogan was committing cyber warfare against Spotify. I like that idea.
Some people are suggesting that, you know, big corporations, big problems, which brings you to my other hot seat, which is big oil. Oh, everyone's talking about oil.
But for this show, it's not the reason you'd expect shack yes basically solved like he's he's solved oil can we put the can we put the clip in yes great education yeah because i told him i didn't want to get a certain vehicle because of the amount of gas i would have to spend it costs like 80 to fill it up and he said then you said when it gets to half then you put 20 hours you bring it back to full yeah but if i keep doing I would have to fill it up. And he said, then you said.
When it gets to half, then you put $20,

you bring it back to full.

But if I keep doing it, I would have to stop more often

and still spend $80. No, you wouldn't.

You're complaining about when it gets to zero,

you'll spend $80, right?

When it gets to half, you put $20.

Then when it gets back to half, you put $20.

But I'll keep stopping, putting $20 in it,

and it'll be $80 the same amount of gas.

I'm driving the same amount of gas. The crazy part is, I think think shaq's right yeah he is it makes a lot of sense to me no it makes a lot of sense like you you avoid going to the gas station at all costs right yeah right unless you're buying dip in which case you invest in tesla yeah but i feel like if you just go once a week you end up spending less overall yeah but that's not he was what was he saying so shaq shaq said this was actually a couple years ago shaq said that instead of filling up your whole tank with 80 worth of gas as soon as it gets to half a tank you put it with 20 which is where it's so that you're just taking it from half a tank to three-fourths of a tank every time you go.
Yeah. Because he said that psychologically, if you don't want to fill up your tank with $80 worth of gas, you can always just fill it up with $20 worth of gas.
Yeah. You know what? He should have just told Kenny to stop being poor.
Yeah. You know what? It really comes down to it.
He kind of is on the right theory. I find that it's more like when you have a quarter tank, you fill all the way up.
Because then you never have to pay the full price that feels like, oh my God, it's $60. But going every five days would be so annoying.
You know what's crazy? It's like Shaq almost got philosophical on us. And he almost did the whole, well, you'll actually never run out of gas because you'll have to use half your gas.
Right. And then you'll have to use half your gas after that.
And then half your gas after that, and you'll never get down to zero. That would have melted.
Charles Barkley's head would have exploded. It would not have gone well for the studio.
But yeah, Shaq is, that show is just the best. It absolutely is.
The best part was Shaq was actually being totally serious. Oh, 100%.
Not joking at all. Someone had to have sat him down after and been like, dude, this is where your math doesn't really add up.
And he probably still was like, no, I disagree. My favorite is when Ernie Johnson just looks down at his desk, doesn't move his eyes, and just starts sweating.
He's like, oh my God. I'm tapping out.
And your cool throne? My cool throne is camcorders. This has been kind of an evolution the past few years.
You've seen people kind of going stylistically. I use a film camera.
A lot of people use film cameras even though they're old. They like the look.
They like the vintageness. And then you have people like Chet Holmberg's dad who was seen in the crowd filming him with a camcorder straight out of 2004.
It was. And for some reason, that seems he's he's not doing that to be trendy he's just never stopped doing it since 2000 should i burst the bubble or not yeah okay it was pointed out to me because i i tweeted the picture of it it was pointed out to me by a lot of people that they actually i think gonzaga fans there was like a feature on him his dad and it's actually like a really expensive 4, and he doesn't like it when people say it's a camcorder.
Oh, his dad's like a filmmaker? Yeah, but it looks like a camcorder. It looks like an old school camcorder.
I'm going to call it a camcorder. Yeah.
I'm sorry. I'm just going to do that.
And I think a camcorder should be the standard at sporting events, especially the dunk contest and the home run derby. Yes.
You should be rocking a camera. You should be on your iPhone.
Or a flip phone. Maybe a flip phone.
Yes, a flip phone as well. I was upset when everyone burst my bubble with that last night.
I mean, that's a camcorder. It's a camcorder.
It looks like a camcorder. That's like, we used to have this camcorder.
I mean, it's not... But people were like, no, it's actually a really nice camera that he loves to use and doesn't like when people say it's a camcorder.
Was that an HVX 500?

Sucks.

Ruined the moment.

It's great, though, seeing him.

He's got fucking long-ass fingers.

Dude, well, yeah, so does Chet.

I know.

That's what I'm saying.

I've got an idea for Chet.

So I think that Kevin Durant has forfeited the nickname the Slim Reaper.

I feel like this is a Slim Reaper.

Yeah.

We're looking at Slim Reaper here.

His body type is so similar to Kevin Durant's. He has the really long arms, very skinny.
He's got the narrow shoulders where the jersey's almost falling off of it. I feel like we need to repurpose the Slim Reaper nickname and give it to Chet Holmgren.
I'm in for it. It's one of the greatest nicknames ever.
It's also going to be awesome when Chet Holmgren figures out what a weight room looks like and he puts on like those 25 pounds of muscle and everyone's like, watch out for Chet Holmgren. Or alternatively, he could become just a big baggy white t-shirt guy underneath the jersey.
I love those guys. Yeah, absolutely.
Works for Gonzaga. All right, Pitty, your hot seat, cool throw.
My hot seat is testicles. Okay.
Because people are starting to schedule their annual vasectomies for march madness i want to know if anybody actually does this i know of uh friends that have done it so every year the uh the old inbox gets filled up with pr pitches for like a brand new initiative celebrating vasectomy month i want to meet the guy that's had like four vasectomies just every year in march because i guess you get day, maybe two days where you just have to sit down, put frozen peas on your nuts and not leave the couch for a while. Yeah.
I mean, the thing I never understood was why don't you just do that on your own without the frozen peas and the surgery? Yeah. You don't need to actually get your nutsack.
Yeah. You just sit there and watch sports.
Or you can just lie. Actually, that's a good business idea is just start a fake vasectomy clinic.
Yeah you go in you just sit there for i don't know an hour or two and then you come out you pretend to limp you get picked up by your wife get taken home you're like honey i had a vasectomy i guess i could see some issues with that down the road if you actually got her pregnant again but i'm talking about a short-term solution uh but yeah vasectomies are back, big time. It's like the vasectomies and shorts.

Yeah, vasectomies and shorts.

The springtime who's back.

The first Robin of spring.

That's a cool throne.

My cool throne is Kyler Murray.

Because that's one piece of quarterback news

that we did not talk about today.

He re-followed the Cardinals.

He re-uploaded all of his pictures of him

in Cardinals uniforms onto his own Instagram page. So I guess he's happy now.
The message was sent. The message was sent.
Message received. I think both sides came to a mutual understanding that this whole thing was fucking stupid.
Yep. And so I guess he's going to be the quarterback of the Cardinals again next year.
Good for Kyler. Way to come back, man.
All right. My hot seat is Russell Westbrook, not Wes Brick.
Bleep that out, Hank. So there was a non-parody story written, fully real, by Dave McMenamin on ESPN.
He said the title of the story was Lakers, Russell Westbrook speaks out about harassment. Family has been subject to vows to push back on Wes Brick taunts.
He said, Wes Brick, for example, to me, is now shaming, he said, referring to a condescending nickname that makes the rounds online seemingly whenever he has a poor performance. It's shaming my name, my legacy for my kids.
It's a name that means not just to me, but to my wife, to my mom, to my dad, the ones that kind of paved the way for me. Now, I understand what he's saying, but you know what you shouldn't do is be like hey this nickname everyone's given me this taunt bothers me mm-hmm because that's gonna get worse it was trending almost immediately people are gonna stop yeah no people will definitely stop West Brick it's a slur it's also just so perfect see bricks a lot I maybe the better idea for him instead of like coming out publicly and saying that I won't allow you to disrespect my name is just start shooting less yeah i think that would probably solve it a little bit more we're shooting better also well that's not going to happen well he could just try even harder this is a message directly at skip bayless i think skip bayless invented the name westbrook i think he did as well right yes so skip bayless as far as i know is the only one that can stop it since he created it.
Yeah, you created this monster, Skip. Fix it now.
All right. Oh, my cool throne was Emmanuel Acho, who doesn't like me, and we're always negative to him, even though I don't think we've ever brought him up until, well, no, the weed thing in the Olympics.
That was also stupid. I think I did get mad at him publicly for stealing tweets, too.
He's going to be featured in the takeies, I'd say. I'd say he's on the fast track.
Yeah, he's having a banner year. Billy, your hot seat called Trump.
Shaq was on my hot seat, but my other hot seat is Jorge Mazdal, after his loss over the past weekend, has now opened up a chance that many are saying he should fight Conor McGregor next. I think that'd be a great fight for both of them to come back.
Two washed kings. Two strikers just because they got out-wrestled in both their fights.
It would be a good fight. Big sellers.
Big sellers. I think hopefully Dana White can make that happen.
Way to be prepared with two hot seats, Billy. Oh, I have a third one.
Oh, shit. Central Park.
There's an arsonist. He's setting it on fire.
My cool throne. Is that you? Are you the arsonist? Is that like a...
He set the fox Christmas tree on fire. Well, there's someone setting brush fires in Central Park right now.
Currently. That was my third backup.
You should go hunt them. I know.
That would actually be fun. Hunt the arsonist.
Yeah. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
My cool throne is the 2022 NFL draft class. So I have crafted the whole bracket list.
If now is a good time to do that. Let's do it.
I want to make this a big deal. Let's do it on Friday.
I want to make it like, I want to actually like really dig into this. Let's get into it.
Do you have the spiral? Yes, I have fuckable spirals. Okay, great.
All right. So Friday, that's a little teaser for everyone in the biz.
Friday, we will be doing Billy's draft bracket and fuckable spiral bracket. My second cool throne is women because it's International Women's Day today.
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers ruined it. Asshole.
You want to shout out your G-ma? Shout out grandma. Oh.
Not your regular mom? I don't know who you're talking about. Jilly.
Oh yeah. Shout out Jilly.
Jilly football. Shout out Jilly.
What was that look? I've never met her. Oh.
Wait, you've never met Jilly? Oh, yeah. We hired Jilly to cuck Billy.
That's right. Didn't she come in like six months ago or something? Yeah, she might have been, but I think Billy was like, I'm not coming in.
The Waco situation. That was when Billy was on one of his- It's in my contract.
One of his little breaks. Jake, your hot hot seat Cooltron.
My hot seat's Ben Simmons. He is making the trip to Philadelphia Thursday night.
Hank, any advice for him as a guy who is not well received by Philly fans? I mean, there's nothing we worry about. They're all soft.
All bark, no bite. They're not going to do shit.
I think it's going to be awesome. I think this is must- Not playing, no.
Must watch TV, though. He's filing a complaint to the league, right? And he's planning on using some of the- He's pre-planning the abuse that he's going to receive when he returns to Philly as part of his complaint to the league.
That's an interesting tactic. To be like, just watch how badly I'm about to be treated.
he's getting pre-mad about it right yeah should be interesting uh my cool cool throne buzzer beaters we had our first true buzzer beater it was a champ we chattanooga over firman deep three awesome yeah it's the beginning and it was also the perfect buzzer beater because it was right after a made basket so it it was like... No time out.
Yeah, there's buzzer beaters where it's a 20-second possession and they hit a buzzer beater. This was truly like mayhem.
No time to think. Run down the floor.
Like when I watch my YouTube compilations on March 1st, this one will be there forever. You do that? Yeah, buzzer beaters.
You just pull it up? Yeah. How long is it? It's like five, ten minutes.
It's similar Liam does with home runs. I do with buzzer beaters.
That's right. I forgot Bubba does that.
He just pulls up some dingers. Yeah, I do the same with buzzer beaters.
Won't do it this year. I also love the pile on after the fact.
You see that? The students' stretch and jumping on? There were like nine guys that were all some of them I think were wearing just underwear in the stands and they just like stormed the court and created the pile. Everyone was like, yeah, whatever.
It's March. There was also some stolen valor.
It looked like there was a couple guys in raincoats. Ooh.
Yeah. Oh, really? Actually, I like that move.
Yeah, no, I like that move, too. It spreads.
Right. It does spread.
Yeah. What were you going to say, Bubba? Also, by the time you're listening to this, the Wisconsin PMTV video will be out.
It comes out tonight on Tuesday. It's very funny.
Champions. Yeah, it was good.
Champions. Celebrating championships.
Number one seed. Let's go.
It's going to be great. It's going to be great.
It is great. It was a very funny video, I think.
I haven't seen any of the clips, but that entire trip was just absurd. So I'm sure Bubba got some great footage.
All right. Good hot seat, cool throne, Jake and Billy and Hank and PFT.
Let's get to J.J. Reddick.
Great interview with him. He joined us in studio.
All right. We now welcome on J.J.
Reddick. Great to have you in studio.
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It is J.J. Redick, the old man in the three.
Go listen to it now uh he's wearing the hat everywhere fresh off of the uh legacy tarnishing loss by coach k that he was at what was it like to go to a funeral for a living person oh man i figured we would start here the best is that jj and i drove in together and we was very cordial. And then it was just like, all right, camera's on? Okay.
Coach K, huge bust. Overrated? Overrated.
I was saying yesterday, that's going to be the lasting memory I think a lot of people have on him. Is him being like, hey, shut the fuck up, student section.
Where's my bench? Yeah. Sorry about the loss.
the loss we have my bench the shitty part about it is that unc fans will now for the next 40 or 50 years just they won't let us live this down that's the shitty part i mean i still get shit from unc fans because they won on my senior night oh and in terms of scale it's like my senior night coach k's final home game. Right.
So I can't imagine the amount of gloating that's going to happen. Well, it also was senior night, right? For the students that were there.
They should get it. They should get another senior night.
Yes. Yes.
They barely had senior night. realistically though like in all like in all seriousness, I mean, I hate Duke.

I hate Coach K.

But I will allow you to tell us right now, is he a good coach?

Like, was he a good – is he the best coach he ever had?

He's the best coach I ever played for.

High school, AAU, college, six coaches in the pros, I think.

Yeah, he was the best coach I played for.

He was the best coach he ever played for.

I don't know. high school aau college six six coaches in the pros i think yeah he was the best coach i played he was the best coach i want to just say real quick look i know it was a shitty loss and it certainly dampened the the night and the celebration not for me but you know we came out to form that tunnel or whatever it was for him to walk out through all the former players.
I think there was 96 of us there. I ended up, by chance, being next to Jay Williams and Leitner in the tunnel towards the front of it.
We went out, took a picture with Coach, and we're walking up to our seats. And Wojo turns to me.
He's like, man, can you believe how lucky we are? And look, everybody likes to shit on Duke. I get it.
But I made that decision to go to Duke at 16 years old. It was the best decision I ever made in my life.
And I feel so lucky that I got to be part of the program. And truthfully, this is not a knock on anything Duke has done or anything that has happened in college basketball.
But I got to be part of Duke when Duke was Duke. Yes.
Prior to the one and done era my my draft class in 2006 was the first draft where high school kids couldn't come out and so i feel like i got to experience the duke that grant hill got to experience that johnny dawkins got to experience that elton brand got to experience like it was just it was a great four years it was mental fuckery every day but i loved every minute of it so about that the mental fuckery because we you know obviously coach k is probably the goat john wooden whatever uh we can have that discussion on first take with steven a you can have that next or later this week what like what what would coach k do in terms of motivation that would uh sometimes you'd be like man is he fucking fucking with us? Like, is this – what is he doing right now? Because it's a Bobby Knight school, school of Bobby Knight, like hard coaching, I would assume. One of my teammates for three years was Shavlik Randolph.
He was in my class, and Shav had an up-and-down career at Duke. And one year he got mono and missed a ton of time and never was really the same that season.
But he had some flashes. He had a really good NBA career, played overseas,

made a ton of money. But I think it was his sophomore year.
We were in a team meeting and Shav had a bad game. And coach said to him, Shav, you're never going to play in the NBA, son.
You

need to learn how to screw in light bulbs. Now, for a lot of us, we're like, what does that mean? His dad had a janitorial staffing company.
Like, that's how deep. Shavlicks.
Yeah, Shavlicks. That's how deep these cuts were.
The meanest thing coach ever said to me was after my sophomore year. I had a terrible.
I mean, I was 13 All-American and second team All-ACC ACC I was our leading scorer on a final 14 but it was I had a terrible season and I was a jackass the whole year um I was out in the streets I was living the life as a frat kid I was not committed I was very overweight we had a series of meetings in April after the final four that year he would make me come in every Saturday morning at 8 a.m and one of those meetings, he said to me, we didn't win a national championship because you weren't worthy to be a champion. I still think about that.
It hurt so bad. And truthfully, I made sure the rest of my career that a coach couldn't say that about me.
It was a big moment. And he was right, though.
He was 100% correct. As a 19-year-old kid to hear that kid to hear that though man it was so devastating it sounds like he's mastered the art of like when your parents tell you i'm not mad i'm disappointed right but he's also mad at you at the same time he's like i'm both mad and disappointed with you yeah maybe maybe some of it is like a feeling of betrayal i know that sounds weird and looking back i probably i i did i betrayed him my sophomore year i betrayed the program my sophomore year um we last time by the way it feels like the third time i've been on the show because you guys reran the the clippers video uh like a year after the fact i was on the show and then it blew up and I'm getting hit up on, on Instagram and Twitter and everybody's giving me shit.
And I'm like, I didn't do an interview about the Clippers recently. You know what though? Like I, I feel like we do have like a level of comfort with each other.
And it sounds to me like you, you're still like, you're beating yourself up over your betrayal of coach K. Like you feel, he made you feel so so bad about that that to this day you're like, I sinned.
I can only beg for forgiveness. It's okay.
I think you overcame it. Yeah, I'd say so.
I don't. You have to go through things in life, hard things, some of them self-inflicted, unfortunately, to grow as a person and grow as a player I wouldn't I wouldn't change anything about my career I could hope and wish for better results I would have loved to have won a championship at Duke that still hurts to be honest with you it does hurt I'm sitting there with Leitner and and and Jay Williams and Shane you know these have won a championship at Duke.
I didn't get to win a championship. And so that hurts.
The fact I didn't win in the pros, that will haunt me in some fashion the rest of my life. I'll never get over that.
I'll never get over not winning at Duke, and I'll never get over it. No.
So how does that manifest itself, though? Is it just a stray thought every now and then? Is it like, because, you know, we always say that players have this, but does it actually pop in your head on a random day? It's like, damn, that sucked. I think you're reminded of it.
You're reminded of it at events like this. Or people will talk about the five greatest Duke players ever.
And I sometimes, a lot of times, actually, get left off that list, which is fine. That's kind of crazy.
I mean, I do this on television with Stephen A, where we have these debates, and there's no way to really measure it. But had I won a national championship, you couldn't ever leave me off the top five Duke players ever.
But because I didn't, you know, so it's stuff like that. The NBA stuff, look, I would have taken my career 10 times out of 10 if you had told me that, you know, at 13 or 14 years old, that I'd play in the league 15 years and get to the playoffs, play in the finals and make the amount of money I did, score the amount of points I did, build the relationships that I did.
I would take it all. But it hurts, man.
I never played basketball for all that stuff. Certainly the team building and the relationship stuff was a huge part of it.
But I played basketball to win. And I see a therapist.
I talked to you guys before, last time I was on the show about that about that and when i retired one of the things we talked about was like that moment that we'd all i'd always envisioned you you envision that moment you're it's game six you're at home there's 30 seconds left on the clock you're up 11 you get a rebound they foul everybody's realizing what is about to happen you're going to win the nba championship and you look up in the crowd and you see your wife and your kids. You see your parents.
You're hugging your teammates. There's a hug.
There's an embrace with the coach. Like, I've envisioned that moment so many times in my life and the fact that it never happened.
Yeah, it fucking sucks. Yeah.
Coach K's there. He whispers in your ear, you're still fat.
You bring up a good – All of it. it's interesting to think about that because every sports psychologist will talk to you about the importance of visualization right and if you visualize it so many times and then it just never happens or let's say you know you visualize hitting a three-pointer and then you go out there and you have a bad night it's almost like you're distrusting your own visualizations at that point you're like I lied to myself I told myself this was going to happen well that's fair but I also think if you're someone that is a dreamer and that dreams big at a high level like I didn't I never visualized myself scoring a basket in the NBA I visualized myself playing in an all-star game or winning an NBA championship.
I visualize being the all-time leading scorer at Duke and getting my jersey hung in the rafters and sitting there and watching One Shining Moment on CBS. I visualize big things.
And so if you fail at those, that's not the end of the world. It really isn't.
You're visualizing huge things. i feel like i accomplished a lot in my basketball career and it's the same way now i we were having a long conversation on the car right over here me and dan were and like i'm envisioning another big thing or another couple big things and those things take time just as my career took time and the work put you know i've had to put in but i don't i don't like now truthfully i said this somebody the other day i used to when i was a kid and and even when i played like i'm throughout the day i'm visualizing like you said i'm visualizing hitting a three i'm visual visualizing my footwork my form the arc of the basketball i'd sit in bed at night when i was a kid and just think of basketball moves and now i'm doing that with my golf swing and the ball flight nice you know so it's like it one one obsession becomes another obsession I do think you're being very hard on yourself and I understand it no you are like your competitive nature the reason why when you ever talk to any athlete who did it at such a high level it's like a blessing and a curse because the reason why they got to that high level is because their obsession, their competitive nature, and then the reason why they're hard on themselves instead of being like, I played in the NBA for what was 13, 16? 15.
15 years? You're a top five Duke player in my book. That's a fact.
You should maybe put that. There you go..
But, like, you're being very hard on yourself where it's like only how many players win national titles, only how many players win, you know, NBA championships. It's so, so small, and you were so exceptional for so long.
So cheer up. I will.
I think it's the feeling. To me, it's the feeling.
I had that feeling. You win game four on the road to go up 3-1 in a playoff series and you get back in the locker room.
There's a feeling there. right you win an ACC championship there's a feeling you go into Carolina on your senior year

and you drop 35 on them 24 in the second half you walk off the court with a smirk like that's a

feeling so I've had a bunch of great feelings that feeling of winning it all though you know I got to experience that in high school and in AAU when we won a couple national championships but to do it at the highest level I didn't get to experience that so I think part of it is like yeah I got to do some great things i got to be on some great teams build amazing friendships win a lot of fucking games but did i miss out did i miss out on like the best feeling well that's a question are you fully retired what if the bucks need uh you know a shooter here down the stretch jo? Joe Harris not coming back for the rest of the season.

Yeah.

You did say – so you were doing the broadcast of the Sixers game,

whatever, the time doesn't make sense anymore

because we're going to run this on Wednesday, but a week ago-ish.

And you said, like, I'm so out of shape during the broadcast

because they're like, hey, could you get in there

and maybe give them some minutes.

How bad would it be if you just went in right now and played an nba game yeah like how bad like would it injuries aside you know i'm not injured anymore but it it would be blatantly obvious that i did not belong on an nba court within two or three possessions and that's crazy to me like just that how fast it's like yeah you just retired you know seven months ago and it's like if you went on an NBA court people like wait that guy shouldn't be here Kyle Korver said something great he never officially retired and a few months into last season into the 2020-2021 season he did an interview and they asked him about why you know he had announced or why he didn't come back and he had this I can't I'm gonna butcher the quote but essentially it was I would never cheat the game and Kyle knew and I and I I know what all goes into it and so yes teams called last summer teams called around the trade deadline teams have called since but I can't cheat the game i know what i have to put into it right to play and compete and like it's not that it's not something i want to don't want to do or want to do it's just i'm retired i i left completely satisfied completely happy minus not winning a championship and you're like well why don't you try i'm like i can't can't cheat the game. I ask it just because, you know, the internet, we do it from time to time where we throw out stupid hypotheticals of like, oh, like if we play, you know, could we score one point? And it's funny to hear from a fucking 15-year NBA pro who's been retired for seven months to be like, yeah, if I showed up on a court right now, I'd be sticking out like a sore thumb.

And then we have hypotheticals that go viral every now and then being like, could you score on LeBron?

Yeah, I see those all the time where guys are like,

and we're like, yes, definitely.

If I played 40 minutes in an NBA game, could I score 20 points?

Right.

It's so funny.

So could you score against LeBron?

Right now?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, how many chances am I getting? You know why you're cheating the game right now? It's disrespectful. Also, LeBron doesn't play defense.
Well, neither does JJ. Yeah, that's true.
Late in my career, I tried. You tried hard.
The other thing, too, is, again, people, Philly fans are the best. They're the best.
And they've inundated my social media accounts with, please come back, you know, this, this. You're better than this guy on the roster or whatever.
You could really help us in the playoffs. And when I retired, people were like, you've got a lot left in the tank.
Like, I'm 30 fucking seven years old. My body, my mind, my emotions were fucking fried.
I had nothing left in the tank. I don't.
I don't have anything left right now. I have nothing left in the tank.
Tell us about it. We're 37 as well.
It's kind of nice, though, because you did go out at a place where you're still in that conversation of if a team is close to winning a championship, they're just one piece. They're one JJ away from being a contender.
I'm joking about your defense because obviously that was what was discussed when you were coming into the league it's like well he could be a good scorer potentially but you might as well not have anybody out there on defense and it's like that that probably uh like gave you some personal motivation because your defense is actually not bad you you get you gave a lot of effort on defense that's nice yeah i don't care what everyone says about your defense it's not that bad but it's not as bad as as people were saying before you came into the league I think you surprised a lot of people and I think just like your style of play you could probably play this year you're hard on yourself but I think you bring JJ in for the playoffs he's gonna hit a couple threes again we've been talking about this for five or six minutes now guys I'm fucking retired. No, no.
Would you say defense is the one part of

basketball? again we've been talking about this for five or six minutes now guys i'm fucking retired no no would you say defense um is the one part of basketball where like it really can come down to like do you try hard at this or not it's a very hard thing to measure and in i follow analytics i i read all the advanced stats there's so many different ways to to measure offense. Defense is complicated.
It's very complicated. I'll give you an example.
My last year in Philly, I basically played all my minutes with Joel. And at the end of the season, his defensive rating was 104.8, which means every 100 possessions on average estimated, this is based on box score, estimated the Sixers would give up 104.8 points per possession.
My defensive rating was like 104.7. It was just below his.
Now, are you telling me that the Sixers have a better defense when I'm on the court versus Joel? No. Advanced stats.
There's a lot of guys that get a lot of deflections and and steals because they have length but they're like fucking matadors they're chairs like they can't move their feet they can't guard what hurt me honestly on defense like defensive concepts team defense being the right spot I nailed it I was I was right I didn't part of that was playing for Stan and him not allowing me to play early in my career i couldn't play for him until i got all that stuff and was perfect at it in terms of staying in front of guys like i that was never my issue my issue was i have a 6'3 wingspan i'm 6'4 i don't ever want to be taller i just i wish there was a drug a pill you could take that gives me rajon rondo wingspan yeah that's all i want yeah it i mean, it's why it's become, I feel like 20 years ago it was height. Now it's like everyone just, height doesn't really matter.
It's wingspan. Like guys who have freaky wingspan, that's everything.
Who's got the biggest wingspan? Dwight Howard. I actually don't know who has the biggest wingspan.
Who's got the wingspan? When you played it, you were like, what the fuck? Draymond's a great example, though, because height-wise, we just did the podcast with Draymond in January in person, and there's a photo that we posted, and he's maybe an inch and a half taller than me, but he's got a 7'1 or 7'2 wingspan. It's crazy.
And he's one of ten basketball geniuses, I would say, that are currently playing. Who are the other nine basketball geniuses? I'd have to look at every roster.
It seems like you've got a top ten in mind if you're putting Draymond in there. Give us a couple.
I'll give you a top five. I'll give you a top five.
Okay. So Draymond, Chris, LeBron, Rajon Rondo.
And I i'm gonna go with the guy that draymond mentioned on the pod and that's john morant i think john morant's he's already a basketball genius yeah because we talk about when you play against certain players you realize on every possession whether it's offense or defense they know exactly what the fuck is going on. They know how to manipulate your defense.
And then they know exactly what you're running, exactly what you're looking for when you're on offense. And they are smart enough and communicate well enough to take all that shit away.
Is it like I've always heard the I think it was the Larry Bird. Like he always thinks three passes ahead.
Is it that? Do you feel that when you're playing a guy like that who's like they know hey when they make this move that's going to lead to this and then yeah if you watch if you watch yokich play if you watch lebron play when they're on offense they see everything and because they now have enough reps and because they're tall and they can see it, not not just see everything like I can watch film and I can see everything but I'm 6'4 again they're tall so they see over everything and they can anticipate all right if I bring this defender and kick it to that guy there's going to be one defender on the back side which means we're going to end up with a corner three or they're going to have to make a bad decision and not rotate to the better shooter who's in the slot and he's going to get a three and there's a hundred possessions roughly in a game they do that on every fucking possession that's crazy so chris paul basketball genius as well a hundred percent yeah yeah what's the smartest thing that you've ever seen him do on a court? All the foul-baiting stuff. Yeah.
I hate. Everybody hates it.
I mean. If you know the rules, you can get away with pushing people to break them.
Yeah. Yeah.
Again, I used the word manipulate when he was on the podcast, and he does. He manipulates basketball.
He manipulates every possession. I think he was we had dinner afterwards and he was kind of

a when he was on the podcast, and he does. He manipulates basketball.
He manipulates every possession. I think he was – we had dinner afterwards, and he was kind of – not offended, but he was kind of taken aback that I would use that word because there's a connotation with manipulation.
There's a connotation. But the definition of manipulation is like an artful skill where you gain an advantage over someone.
And that's what he's doing on a basketball court. That's what lebron's doing on a basketball yeah manipulative i can see it's kind of like implying like a dark art or like a little underhandedness to it yeah use disrupt well because we when we when we i'm sure we've all said this about someone in daily life not on a basketball court man that person is manipulative and that carries a pretty bad connotation yeah but on a basketball court when you're manipulating a possession there's an art there's a skill to gaining an advantage that's that's what i mean it's making you know he puts chris paul and james harden and like you know we complain about it but i really do only blame the nba and the refs because they're just using the rules for their benefit.
Like they're putting the refs in a difficult position like, hey, you got to make a call here because this is as close as it could be to a foul or whatever it may be. I don't it's it's the rules that are the problem, not the players.
Well, the one rule that they got rid of with it. There's a couple.
There's a couple rules that they've gotten rid of over the last few years and and one or both of them really i've had to guard as a defender and i've been taking advantage of i've been taking advantage of one is if you're guarding a guy that's a good shooter and you are taught you are taught and the game plan is you're going to fight over the screen on a pick and roll or a dribble handoff.

And as you're fighting over, that guy stops and jumps back into you.

There's no way you could stop.

All your momentum is to chase him over that screen.

And so now that's a non-shooting foul.

I totally agree with that.

And then the other one is, as a defender, you are legally allowed to, without extension, have your arm on a player's hip when you're guarding a dribble. And so James Harden's a perfect example.
James Harden knows that. And so he's dribbling with his other hand, and he takes his offhand.
He goes underneath your arm and then goes to collect the ball and tries to shoot it. So, again, two things were taught as defenders, and those guys figured out a way to take advantage of the system.
Now those are non – and really the one, the arm underneath, they don't even call anymore. That one was the worst.
Which is, again, it's a non-basketball play, so they don't even call it anymore. And really the chasing over screens, there's really nothing you could do.
It is a foul, so you have to call it, but it shouldn't be a shooting foul. The James Harden move actually sounds like it should be a foul on James Harden to do it.
Like, he's bringing your arm in with his arm. Yeah.
Well, off the ball, I used to do that all the time. I mean, that's how I got free throws at Duke.
I would wait until we were in the bonus. Also because the refs cheated for you guys.
Well, I don't know about that. But, you know, off the ball, I'd wait until we get in the bonus.
Also because the refs cheated. Well, I don't know about that.
But off the ball, I'd wait until we get in the bonus. And when I saw six fouls and above, and we called floppy or any catch-and-shoot action for me to run off screens, as soon as a defender would put his arm on me, I would get to the screen and then do the same thing.
I'd put my arm underneath his arm, and it looked like he was holding me as I came off the screen. When I got to the NBA, alls would be like I saw you fucking do that at Duke I'm not giving you that call they hated you too they knew what basketball genius we missed is Kevin Durant a basketball genius oh that's a good question I feel like he is yeah he yeah he is he is a lot of guys that are basketball geniuses this is going to sound so simple.
They are obsessed with basketball. They watch basketball.
There's a lot you can learn. Like if I wanted to be a movie critic, I would talk to a movie critic and I'd say, give me 100 films to watch.
Yeah. And I'd study those films and watch those films.
And then by the end of that 100-watch viewing party, I could conceivably be a fairly good movie critic. That's where Kevin Durant, I think.
Just watching basketball. Yeah, I think he, out of anyone in the NBA right now, I think he loves basketball more than anyone.
The way he talks about it, the way he, like, he'll even, you know, comment on Twitter, like, guys who are doing stuff in AAU games that are not good for, like. You know what I mean? It does feel like he loves basketball to such a level that you can just tell.
The thing about him, he's a guy when he's 50 years old, he will be giving the next generation of players their flowers. I don't see him being one of the haters no and there's a lot of guys right now that are saying that uh back-to-back MVPs would be a bench player in their era which is insane AI is the one guy right now that is up there really pushing the narrative for today's generation that they're good like for me that the guys that are coming in the league right now jalen green last night is a great example he's figured out how to play basketball skill wise though i don't know if you guys watched the houston memphis game last night i'm a sicko so i watched the i missed that one yeah but you know he's doing things and he hit a big shot down the stretch it was you know using his dribble package and I'm like, dude, 19-year-olds 10 years ago could not do that move.

And so all these guys come in and are way more skilled,

and they'll figure out through repetition, through film study,

through coaching, they'll figure out how to play the right way.

But I'm going to be a guy in 20 years,

I'm going to be talking about how great that generation of players is.

See, everybody says that.

I don't believe that.

It comes for everybody.

You're going to be a boomer soon. Because here's the thing.
It happens to all of us. And there will be things that you can find that will be fun to hate on.
But I think you're right. Overall, you'll be more of a positive guy.
You want to acknowledge that. You're a level-headed dude.
It sounds like you don't have, like, animosity towards the younger generation or anything. But I think it's just fun when you get older to complain about the way young kids are doing stuff nowadays.

And on top of that, you say that now,

and I believe you because I do think that you're, you know,

a reasonable, you're not going to just do a hot take,

but in 20 years, there'll be people on Twitter or whatever the app is going to be,

being like, 2020, they were playing with janitors and plumbers.

Because that's part of it, too.

You know what I mean?

Like, they make, like, a lot of the narrative is a pushback of michael jordan played against fucking like clowns you know or larry bird played against you know and magic johnson played against guys who had a sales job in the summer like that kind of stuff so when that comes for you i think you'll probably be like wait hold on a second michael j. Michael Jordan had a great quote, and I'd never seen this clip before.
I saw it on Twitter maybe two weeks ago. He was giving an interview, and they were asking him about where he – this is prime Michael.
This is 90s Michael. You could tell because he had enough bone structure.
It wasn't wizard's muck, but he wasn't skinny like he was in the 80s. So it was like prime Michael.
And they were asking him about where he sort of viewed himself amongst the greats. And he had a great quote.
He said, look, I can't compare myself to the guys in the 70s or the guys in the 60s. I didn't get a chance to play against them.
I didn't get a chance to compete against them. It's very hard, and do it and i'm i'm guilty of this because i work for a take machine we we inevitably compare players of different generations different eras and it's impossible to do it it's impossible to do it it's also like but it's fun yeah no people get mad about it and you know people get mad like oh why do we have to have the hall of fame debate all this stuff this is just what sports fans do we debate stupid shit and the end of the day, no one's ever going to change their mind fully, but we're going to be entertained by it because it's a fun hypothetical to talk about.
I went on a long rant on the podcast about the top 75 list. Did you think for a second maybe you'd be on it? No.
You were like, 78, 79. Top 1,000.

No, but I wish the NBA had not included all 50 guys from the top 50 list.

Oh, like people get relegated.

Oh, I like this take. I wish because I do think there were more players over the last 25 years by criteria,

certainly by criteria,

that should have been on that list.

Dwight Howard's a great example.

Dame, maybe.

At the same time, we should be able to celebrate

what players did in their era versus their peers.

But when we talk about the skill,

you can't tell me that Kyrie Irving is not a top 75 basketball player. Right.
Tracy McGrady was a perfect, yeah. Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter.
These guys are easily 75 of the best basketball players. Now, relative to what they accomplished in terms of all NBA stuff, championships, I get all that.
But we should also contextualize the 50s and 60s when there were eight teams and when the celtics had their run for a lot of those years they got a first round by they played one series in the east and then they won the championship mickey mouse championships so i think this is the this is how the league was set up back then but let's just let's just have that in the back of our minds when we talk about some of the accomplishments from that era. So it's gotten harder if you're a star player with 30 teams.
And again, the 80s. I think the 80s started out with 23 teams, 22 teams, something like this.
It wasn't until expansion with Minnesota and Miami and Orlando.

Shout out big country.

That we got to 30 teams.

Again, you could make the argument, well, the league's diluted.

No, there's far more good basketball players today than there were 60 years ago.

Yes, agreed. I think that's fair.

I actually saw, I caught a clip of you debating against Stephen A.,

who must be awesome to work with as a debater.

One of your first debates was, do people fear LeBron James? And I was watching you try to have a logical argument and a debate over whether or not people are afraid of LeBron James. And I was cracking up because at some point, it sounded like you were trying to answer the question, do people fear him in a basketball sense? Like, you don't want to play him in the playoffs? Or are people, like, afraid that he will physically beat you up? But Stephen A.
was, like, running circle because he kept changing. He kept changing what he was saying.
Yeah. When he first started, because the whole issue was about Isaiah Stewart having a moment of rage and going ballistic and requiring six people to tackle him on a basketball court.
So the first part of that debate, I thought we

were debating the physical fact of LeBron. And then it became about the basketball on a basketball

court, whether we feared somebody. So he just kept changing it depending on my take.
Ultimately,

I won that debate. There's no question.
What's your record right now with Stephen a yeah I don't know seven and oh eight no wow can I can I give you a good one that we were talking about yesterday on the show but I'm still waiting I think I think there's something there with someone taking the alternative approach and saying Russell Westbrook actually needs the ball more and like he's not the reason the lakers stink it's actually they aren't featuring him enough throw that out there and see how it works i bet you could find some stats i don't hate that take yeah i'll tell you why so when the trade happened when the trade happened my immediate thought was like huh how's that gonna work yep LeBron's gonna have the ball they're gonna feature AD in the post so you've got Russell Westbrook playing off the ball and he's a career 30% shooter from three and I don't I haven't looked at his stats in the last two weeks like overall for this season but there was a point in time in January where if you looked and you're like, all right, Russell Westbrook, he's shooting this from two. He's shooting this from three.
He's turning the ball over this amount of times per game. Here's what his usage percentage was prior to this.
Here's what his usage percentage is now. And you look at it and you're like, no, the Lakers got who they traded for.
This is who Russell Westbrook is. So if you're not going to allow him to play to all of his strengths, which is be a ball-nominate guard, what the fuck did you expect? Right.
He wasn't going to be a role player. He wasn't going to be a spot-up-and-shoot guy.
Right. To me, look, again, I'm not knocking Russ.
What I'm saying is if I'm the Lakers and I'm looking at how to build around LeBron and AD and trying to win a championship this season, I would have taken a very different approach. Buddy Hilt.
I don't know if it's Buddy, but I would have taken a different approach. Buddy was the name.
That sack deal was done. The sack deal was done.
I mean, Kuzma called Tyrese Halliburton like, hey, guy, can't wait to be your teammate.

Sacramento.

Yeah, I'm there.

Fun.

Let's do it.

In and out. Let's do it.

Yeah.

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plan at get roman.com slash take now back to more jj reddick all right so let's talk a little nba this year who uh who who do you think is going to win the east and the west we'll go we'll go east first because it's a great east it's an unbelievable east like there's going to be you know the celtics obviously have come on. I think the

Sixers have

the best combo it's it's going to be awesome to watch so what do you think in the heat everyone forgets i always forget about the heat heater the one seed right now yeah east is fascinating this year so a lot of success in the playoffs is very much matchup dependent, and I got to see that throughout my career. There were certain teams that we always felt like this is a great matchup for us.
There were certain teams where you knew it was going to be tough. And the further you go in the playoffs, it gets tougher and tougher because those teams are battle-tested, and clearly they're good enough to win.
The East is very much seed-dependent to me, and we're going to see, I think, some fascinating matchups in the first round. I could envision a scenario where Chicago Bulls get the two-seed and they've got a dogfight against whoever wins the seven-seed in the play-in.
Yeah. Because that could be the Nets.
Yeah. It might be the Celtics.
It could even be Toronto. Toronto Healthy is a really good basketball team.
Yeah. Nick Nurse is an outstanding coach.
So the Eastern Conference is fascinating. If you are asking who I think is going to win, everybody's healthy.
And let's just say the two best teams in the Eastern Conference Finals, to me it's going to end up being the Bucs and the Miami Heat. And I think the Miami Heat, to me, are the best team in the East.
Wow. The matchup-dependent thing is so true.
I remember specifically learning that lesson, the famous Dirk vs. Warriors series.
Remember that? Was that a 1-8? That was a 1-8. And it was like everyone in the world was like, no, no, this is going to be a problem.
And then Dirk got – it was back when they gave the MVP out in the second round and he got the MVP after they had lost, had been bounced. That was like, oh, shit.
This is truly – it doesn't matter. Seeding obviously matters in the NBA because it does feel like the high seeds usually advance, but matchups are so, so important.
So why are the Heat the best team in the East? In your mind watching them? To me, they're the most complete team. And again, this is health-dependent.
Like I would love to see the Bucs with Brooke Lopez. He gives them something, especially defensively, that they don't have right now.
And Bobby Portis has had an outstanding season. And the fact that he's making whatever he's making, $4.8 million and averaging $15-9 as a starter, that's incredible value for them.
And he's had a great yeah pat her yeah pat conington's been hurt the heat have to me the most versatile five men and we saw this last week against the bulls where bam can sit there and play drop coverage very well and they can stay at home on shooters and allow the pick and rolls to operate as a two versus two thing he can hedge out and play really aggressive almost in a blitz and their their entire defense is very very much like a swarming defense we saw that against philly the other night when they just harassed joel and bead but against the bulls he would switch on to demar and he can guard him one-on-one he can guard him one-on-one. He can guard guys one-on-one.

So it starts with him.

They've got big wing defenders, Jimmy Butler, PJ Tucker, obviously.

They've got an abundance of shooting, Duncan, Tyler Hero,

Max Strews, Gabe Vincent.

Yeah, Duncan.

He hasn't really shot this.

I wouldn't put him in an abundance of shooting this year.

I'd just say he's more of a podcaster.

Yeah.

Yeah, the guy really needs to stop podcasting and just work on his game.

Yes.

No, and then you need shot creation.

Look, they have two guys that can create their own shot.

And by the way, I didn't even mention Kyle Lowry, who's a champion,

had a huge game six when they closed out the Warriors.

Elite charge-taking machine.

They've got everything.

They've got the culture.

They've got the coaching. I think Spoh is one of the two best coaches in the league, along with Tyronn Lue.
Really? I like their team a lot. Ty Lue, number one.
Did I say that? So what about – Zoe, it sounds to me like you're saying that even everybody's healthy, vaccination status, copacetic, the Nets are just not going to do it this year. I just, again, it's like with LeBron or with Kevin Durant, even Steph, it's hard to count one of their teams out.
So it's hard to say, like, I don't see the Nets. I could see the Nets winning the East for sure.
There's just so many question marks, including Ben Simmons' health. If Ben Simmons is healthy and he's playing the five, he's able to switch, disrupt on defense, be a playmaking five down the stretch in pick and roll with Kevin and Kyrie.
They have shooting. Like, even without Joe Harris, Patty Mills has been great.
Like, I could see them making a run for sure. But I think the Heat is the most complete.
The Heat is the team, to me, health aside, where I'm like, that team has the least amount of question marks to me. Right.
Here's another take that you can use. I think Kevin O'Connor is also on this too, but we've been saying for the last couple years, Ben Simmons is actually right-handed.
He just doesn't know it yet. I've told Ben that.
Have you? Yeah'd he say he he disagrees with me but when i watch him right he does it with his right hand if i asked him to throw he would do it with his right hand if even when he jumps like think about most a lot of his not all of them but a lot of his dunks he jumps off his left foot yeah like that's what a right-handed person does wait so and i've watched him shoot and the form is more resembling more resembles a a proper shot than than with his left hand so we were just saying that because he's so bad with his left hand that he must be right but you're saying there's actually like an element of truth to that that he writes right-handed i think he a right-handed person that shoots the basketball left-handed that's so weird yeah why was deandre jordan was the same way i used to tease deandre about this like we used to go when i first got to la uh prior to kids uh deandre would would always invite me over after practice so he lived in the palisades and there was this there this canyon below his house. And if you hit it across the canyon, like if you hit a driver, you would hit it into Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner's house.
So we tried not to slice it with our driver. But we would hit the balls down into the canyon, and he swings a golf club right.
Like he's right-handed. He swings a golf club right-handed that's crazy yeah he got a letter by the way from the um homeowners association down there telling him not to stop continue to continue to hit golf balls you're hitting cars houses horses there's horses down there amazing amazing um all right so west real quick um obviously chris pa a genius, like you said, but he chokes in the playoffs, so that will be what? What? He chokes in the playoffs.
Give me – what's an example of that? Looking back on the last 13 years. Yeah, 13 years.
14? Look, you guys have some intentional and some unintentional.

You guys have a lot of bad takes.

That's just a bad take.

It's a bad take.

Prove me wrong.

Okay.

How many titles?

Well, again, we're... It's this easy, PFT, sometimes.

We'll teach you how to podcast.

You want to live in this ring culture.

Oh, yeah.

You want to live in this ring culture. Oh, you got to ring in the ring culture.
Chris Paul does not have a ring. That's interesting.
Last year in the playoffs, just dismantling the Denver Nuggets in the second round. Oh, that was the second round? Second round.
They were playing the MVP. He won the MVP last year, Jokic.
Got it. But the second round.
And then they won the Western Conference Finals. I don't know if you remember that and then so they must have won the title well they they were up 2-0 they were up 2-0 and then oh and then janice um went crazy um and by the way like i got into this debate with steven a when he was talking about i can't remember what his take was on something he like it was like a take within a take and when you think about year's finals, it literally came down to two plays.
Giannis' block, which was one of the greatest basketball plays I've ever seen, and then Devin Booker getting stripped. I think that was game five.
Giannis' block was either game three or game four. That series could have easily been in the Suns' favor.
If it was 3-0 Suns. And what do those things have to do with Chris Paul? What do those things have to do? By the way, I played with Chris Paul in the playoffs.
Yeah? You know, game seven against the Spurs, we're playing the defending champions, the hardest series of my career by far. He hits the game winner over the outstretched arms of Tim Duncan.
The year we lost to Utah, Blake gets hurt. We're up 2-1.
Blake gets hurt in game three. And Chris just dominates that series.
It was at no fault of his that we lost that series. Like, he shows up.
He shows up. I think one of the issues with Chris is, like, Chris in the playoffs, like, so Chris is like a 12, 20 and 10 guy.
Right. And probably in the playoffs, most serious, he's going to give you 20 and 10 and you can find examples where he did.
Right. Whatever.
But the stats are always there. The numbers are always there.
The play is always there. What, what maybe gets missed at times is like the Giannis 50 ball in game six.
Right, the supernova. Chris doesn't have the supernova.
And some of that is because of the way he plays. And he talked about this in the pod.
His whole mindset is I'm going to get my guys going. I'm going to facilitate.
I'm going to look to pick my spots. And then when he gets to the fourth quarter, it's takeover time.
And he does that. Here's the thing with Chrisul i have nothing against chris paul i what you and when you podcast long enough you'll learn this sometimes takes how long have y'all been podcasting this we've been doing this one for six years i've been podcasting for six years too what what yeah i started february 2016 guys thanks who listened a lot of people actually wait you started at the same month that we did? Wow.
Really? Well, I was podcasting before that too. But anyway, once you become a seasoned vet like us, sometimes takes are created off of other takes.
And our Chris Paul take is mostly based on the fact that Ryan Russillo did a weird rant where he said he wanted to adopt Chris Paul as his son. And then we had to be like, now he's a choker.
So it's like when other people invest in a take, then it goes wrong. Then you have to double down on top of them.
Right. So you guys are just looking for the anti-take, just going against somebody else's take, even if that take doesn't make a lot of sense.
Yeah, he wants to adopt him. Our take just becomes a vehicle and a way for us to make fun of our friend Ryan.
Correct. And so we don't care whether or not it's true.
We just know that every time that we bring it up, it makes Ryan feel smaller. And we'll add you to this as well.
So when Chris Paul chokes in the playoffs this year, you will be added to this take. You will be on the bus with ryan see how it works

how many rings does he have though see that's always a trump card that you can do at the end it's like it's so frustrating it's such a dumb oh it's so dumb it's so dumb but it's so fun to do just like rings well the funny thing is like yannis like charles charles barkley right charles Barkley, right? But 93 finals. Go look at his box scores.
Go watch those guys. What hurt them in that series, they had zero rim protection.
I went on this deep dive of watching all these old Michael Jordan YouTube clips during the pandemic. It was actually before The Last Dance started airing.
I got on this whole rant one night. Not rant, but this whole like rabbit hole of just Michael Jordan big games.
And it ended with me watching a bunch of highlights. And it's just amazing to me the ease at which he got to the rim in that series.
There was, I mean, Tom Chambers would be standing, not even verticality jumping,

just standing underneath the rim while Jordan laid it in over top of him.

You're doing the thing.

You're doing like Jordan played against Plumbers.

Yeah.

There it is.

You just did it.

I'm doing the thing where I'm talking about the fact that Charles Barkley

also dominated that series and ended up without a ring.

Yeah.

Because he was going against Jordan. But he's a bust because he lost.
Right. Chris Paul game four in the finals was not great.
Okay. I think the problem.
We can all find examples of the guy. The problem with Chris Paul is he was Harden adjacent for a long time.
And watching those guys in the playoffs, it was like we took a sick, weird pleasure in knowing that James Harden was going to do something weird in the playoffs. Correct.
And not show up. So having Chris around that and in that universe, he got a little bit of that Harden hate residually put onto him by us.
Does that make sense? Okay. That makes sense.
That makes sense to a degree. And we took Blake's side in the breakup.
Yeah, that too. Well, see, now we're talking.
Yeah, it's starting to come out a little bit. Now we're talking.
Listen, I get it. Once you start to actually peel back the onions, all of our takes are just very personally motivated.
Who are our friends? Yeah, like, it's like... I know.
I went on a rant about the Kings trade when they traded Tyrese Halliburton. And Tyrese is my guy he's 21 years old and he's done some things already in his career we're like players in the NBA who have done this this and this by age 20 guards in the NBA have done this this and this by age 21 it's like Tyrese Halliburton he's the list right and the Kings trade I thought it was a stupid trade right again now all of a sudden I'm like saying that that Darren Fox and Sabon I never said that.
They're good basketball players. But if you're the Kings and you're 22 and 41, trading Tyrese Halliburton for Sabonis is not going to move the needle one way or the other.
It's not going to move the needle. Whereas I think if you keep a 21-year-old guard that's under a rookie-scale contract, it's probably a better move for the long term.
That's all. Yeah, no, it's a fair point.
I've got to take i've been nesting on for a while curious to hear what you say because you brought up youtube earlier and how you were watching michael jordan uh some of his old games on youtube i feel like kids today the guys that are coming into the nba the younger guys actually have a big advantage over players 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago

because they have this enormous archive of footage that they can watch,

that they can slow down, they can learn different moves,

like you were talking about some of the rookies coming to the league

that have just incredibly technically sound handles already.

I feel like YouTube has actually done a great job of preparing kids for,

well, just to like build off of what has been done before them. Whereas if you wanted to learn those moves beforehand, you had to go to a summer camp.
You had to have like make sure you had a school that had a good basketball coach. You had to make sure that you were playing against great competition all the time.
Now you can go online. You can watch some of the greatest players.
You can break down their dribbling in like, you know, super slow motion. You can just work on can just work on it work and work on it on your own whereas previous generations weren't able to do that yeah i used to have to i mean if i wanted to watch reggie miller come off screens i would have to tune in on sundays on nbc because we didn't have cable for most of my childhood and i would record games on vhs and i would have to hit play rewind and now it's just you type it in right YouTube and watch 20 videos on something people teach the other thing the other thing too is when I was when I was in high school I had a key to the gym and I would go before school and I would shoot by myself I'd rebound for myself I'd spin the ball out and work on my footwork and shoot.
I'm going to make whatever, 10 shots from 17 feet, spinning the ball, right, left footwork, pull up, right. Jason Tatum had Drew Hanlon when he was 13 years old.
Right. Like the amount of resources.
This is why I say like I'm acutely aware of this, the information, the video, the resources. Players are only going to get better.
I'm not going to be the 50-year-old guy ranting about how guys suck. They're only good because they have the internet, JJ.
That's what I'm trying to get you to say. JJ Redick played against a bunch of podcasters.
That's what they're going to say. Content creators.
Right, exactly. All right, so who's winning the West? We'll wrap up in a all right so who's winning the west we'll wrap up in a second but who's winning the west phoenix phoenix is i mean again this is chris paul choking aside health it was just the west not the finals yeah yeah right right he can phoenix phoenix there's there's i there's more wild cards to me in the east than there are in the West.
But if look at the western conference draymond green is a wild card it's very clear and obvious that for steph to be at his best and for that team to function at their best draymond green is is the piece they need draymond to be 100 percent offensively defensively all that stuff most important player um and then the other wild card to me my expectation expectation is that Kawhi is not coming back for the Clippers. Let me just say that.
I forgot about Kawhi. Yeah, let me just say that.
I don't think he's going to come back this year. So the other one to me is Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr.
Because Jokic, I think the three best players in the league this year have been Jokic, Joel, and Giannis. John Murray? Yeah,'s on the list.
Again, I'm going to have to leave some people out. The three most dominant players in the league are those three guys.
Yeah, they're the next tier guys. I haven't changed that take for a long time.
Okay? All right? Jokic has carried that team. If they get those two guys back and those guys are 90% to 100%, they have a decent chance.
Jokic is that good. He's that good.
So the West is fascinating, too, because you have – like the East has some really great teams, and the West has some teams where it's like, what if John Morant goes crazy? What if Luka goes crazy? How much of the NBA can it really be as simple as, hey, if you have the best player in the series, you can win it because they can just be that good and that much better? I think you just said it. Yeah.
It's that simple. It's that simple.
It's who is the best player in this series, and that team has a great chance to win. Again, you're talking about a seven game series you know it's very different than college basketball there's much more of a variance in college basketball because of that you know if i go nine for 18 against lsu we win that game by 20 points right if i have an average shooting night i had a astronomically below average shooting night i only shot three for 18 it good that you're over that.
Yeah. I'm just, I'm providing examples here.
I'm providing examples. So, yeah, in the NBA, it's like, who has the best player in the series? And that's why a lot of people, when they get to the playoffs, or even when we talk about this 65 games in the regular season, you're like, I don't see that team winning at all because what what series are they going to have the best player but i i think with like miami there's certainly going to be some series where they don't have the best player in that series in the eastern conference i'm okay with that i really am jimmy butler is a top 10 15 20 player when he's at his best yeah i'm going to narrow that down just a little bit because this has been a debate in the six years we've been doing this podcast.
PFT doesn't think Jimmy Butler's a top 20 player. No, now I do.
And I think it was 15. I think that was the first one.
20. Let's say 15 to be fair.
Okay, so he's a top 15 player. Agreed.
Agreed. But there's going to be some series in the East when it goes against, let's say he played against the Nets.
Right. Right.
When he plays against this version of DeMar, maybe the Heat don't have the best player. But do the Heat have the best team? Yeah.
I think so. Okay, so Suns, Heat, I love it.
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Do you watch college basketball at all anymore or is it not? Like can you sit down and watch a game or is it? No. Okay, all right.
I'm reading your face. Do you give us an honest opinion on Duke's chances to win the title in Coach K's last year, even though his legacy has already been tarnished by that loss on Saturday.
Their chances are good to be a regular season champion of a power conference. Not co-champion, but full champion.
It doesn't matter. You can share it too.
I just want to make sure we're specific. Full champion.
Co-champion, fine. Yeah, exactly.
Then you have a chance to win it all. Again, the variance in college basketball, it's very hard to predict things in college basketball, but I like their chances.
Here's a question. If they win it all, does that take away from the fact that Carolinaolina won is that like is that worth more uh that's a great question that is a great debate to have because the correct answer is like obviously yes that's great to win a championship going out but to then you see you've been hanging out around steven a smith you can tell like i still am going to remember coach k yelling at the student section after the yell at the student section oh he said he said hold on He said, shut the fuck up, you morons.
I'm talking. I Coach K yelling at the student section.
He didn't yell at the student section.

He said, hold on.

He said, shut the fuck up, you moron. I want to get my bench.

Your dad is about to talk to you.

You're going to fucking listen up, dickheads.

That's what I heard.

Yeah, UNC would mean more.

Miami going to Cameron would mean more when you missed your free throw.

JJ missed a free throw at a game this year they asked me to they asked me to shoot

the free throw again the unc at the unc game and you're like i said no and then i was like can you

get grant to do it he hasn't done it yet but i think grant had a contract contractual obligation

with turner he can't do anything for espn right espn game so he couldn't do it so grayson shot it

and he made it which was great um but you missed yours i missed mine against miami yeah

Here's what thing about that free throw, though. It was a bad miss.
My family lives in Raleigh. My parents and two of my sisters, my other two siblings are out in Denver.
But I had flown in the night before, spent some time with my family all day. I probably had drank three or four ipas starting around one o'clock and you know by the time i was out there you know getting ready to shoot that free throw there was i'm not saying i was buzzed but some people are saying that definitely very relaxed emblematic of the drinking culture surrounding duke oh there's just been a lot of a lot of controversies.
Have you got a chance, like, have you talked to John Shire? Oh, yeah, yeah. John and I talk all the time.
So you're confident, like, okay, he's the guy correct going with him instead of Tommy Amaker who also got offered the job? I'm not going to say one is correct or one is not correct. I would say just in terms of John, I think he's going to job i'm very very confident he's shown he can recruit he knows the game he's played the game at a high level brotherhood um no part of the brother i'm all in i'm all in i know he's part of the brotherhood i'm all in on john the duke brotherhood we heard about it all saturday i actually don't hate john shire which is it's gonna take some time chicago guy yeah i'm gonna have going to have to build up the hate.
Eventually we'll get there. It's going to take a while.
John Shire's face aside, because he made some faces when he played at Duke. He did.
In action. Not his general face.
His general resting face is totally fine. But those faces he made aside, he's a very easy guy to root for.
Yes. He's one of the nicest kids i met when i was when i would recruit guys you know when i was at duke i hosted all the recruits he's one of the greatest guys i ever met as an adult he's just he's mild-mannered he's humble um he's hard he's hard to root against he's not he's not in the line of the duke scumbags the late nerds the reddicks the reddick the grayson allens like he's not in that line of scumbags he's more he's like mike dunn mike dunleavy no one really hates mike dunleavy which is funny because mike dunleavy is a dickhead right but really no one really hates him the same way yeah that's true josh mcroberts doesn't get that because he changed his look when he got to the NBA.
Yeah, the Plumleys get hate because they deserve his clothes. Right, Josh grew his hair out.
There was a few years there where he looked like the white version of Jesus. Kyle Singler had the hair at Duke.
Yeah, Kyle Singler. People didn't hate him as much.
I feel like Wojo would have gotten more hate if he was better. If he had made it to the NBA and stuck around for a while.
Because he was annoying. He was annoying as fuck when he was that dude.
He was like the king of slapping the floor. He was that guy, yeah.
I forgot one last question. Were you shocked that Zion wasn't there considering there was a free buffet? You know what's funny? I'll give props to Grayson because he he played yesterday afternoon like grayson showed up uh to the game shot the free throw made the free throw something i could never accomplish but mostly it was it was the four-year guys and a lot of those obviously a lot of the one-and-done guys are in the nba in the nba currently playing.
Zion went to church yesterday,

so he probably had to get up early to go to church. It was a potluck, yeah.

Right.

So, again, I wasn't surprised.

There weren't many one-and-done guys over there.

No Kyrie?

No Kyrie.

No Kyrie.

Does it get clicky at all when you get together for these types of reunions?

Are there different groups that hang out?

Yeah, there are.

Who's in your clique?

That's a good question dunleavy for sure i mean dun dun he's done mike's probably my closest friend that played at duke yeah yeah so uh dunleavy like after the game um there's a guy this kevin marchetti he was a manager at duke he's a big dick he started some companies he probably got a B next to his bank account um great dude so that's how they're getting the but he flew he flew in he flew in from the bay with uh with Bob Myers and Mike so after the game I went and watched the Lakers Golden State game with Bob and Mike and Wojo came and so we had that little crew but when we got in the room that room I was telling you about we got in that room before the game there's a hundred dudes in this you know room in the back hallway of Cameron they had some beer for us and everybody's kind of saying hi to everybody else it was definitely clicky and it was based on obviously your era right who you played you who you played with. You had the 2000 guys.
You had the 2010 guys. Everybody was kind of – the walk-ons, all the white walk-ons were hanging out.
And then you had the floaters. The floaters were mostly the early 80s guys, the first Coach K teams.
I can't tell you their record. Nobody really knows any of their names.
Those guys were walking around the room. They started it off.
They started it off. Yeah, they look at you like you're their sons.
I'm the father of this program. It was amazing.
It was just that whole experience. Look, it sucked that they lost, but that whole experience was sick.
Yeah, it was a great night. It was a memorable night.
It was a memorable night. It was.
It was a very memorable night. All right, JJ, thank you.
Old man in the three with our good friend Tommy Alter. We've got to have you back on for NBA playoffs, too, because this was awesome.
We appreciate it always. I'm down to come on the show whenever you guys want, and I'm happy to talk playoffs.
Let's do it after Chris Paul chokes again. I can again wait yeah i can't wait till we get to playoffs and we do this and you guys are just providing me with just horrible takes oh yeah you know it'll be great like once once you get signed by the nets we'll have you on after you guys get bounced in the first round deal promise well we could we could like you could literally just we just do a take school for you like here here's here's everything we got thinking right now that actually would like that you guys come up with 8-10 takes next time I'm on the show 8-10 NBA takes we just turn our brains off and think of what the dumbest thing possible and a lot of them we believe I do believe Chris Paul's a choker I'm well aware that you believe in terrible takes every team should like an AJ Teddies that lines him up in a hotel room after a series.
That's what started the Suns. Like these are the takes that we think of.
Yes. Yes.
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And then we have John Rothstein and Mark Titus next week, which is going to be incredible. Hank.
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Not a suit. Suit man.
Yeah, I'm suit man. We got a suit man on this podcast.
You're wearing a suit right now. I'm wearing a high fashion for high people hoodie.
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My boyfriend and I have been dating for about three months now and are going on a 14-hour road trip. What are some topics you do or rather do not recommend us discussing so that this isn't the last road trip we take? We're both listeners of the show and will potentially be listening to this during the drive.
Okay, you should do an animal draft at football positions. That killed about four hours of the trip at least, right, Billy? It was a good one.
And there was also the other game where you pick a person you all know and try to guess who that person is yeah the 20 questions game exactly yeah that was a good one both solid uses of time billy botched the first overall pick in the draft by taking a barbary line at quarterback that was dumb as shit he's a leader gorilla was still on the board i you gotta just have a fire playlist it's all playlist. Get the best songs.
What should they do right now if they're driving and listening to this? You can play the... Watch out! You can play the blow your horn game.
Remember we saw some guys that were doing that every single car that they passed on the way from... It was from Madison...
It was Madison to Indianapolis. ...to Indy.
There was one guy who was probably like 30 years old rolling down his window trying to get all the truckers to blow their horn. Just some fun stuff.
Just guy stuff, yeah. I always feel like there's like an old story where that's like a gang initiation where they wait for someone to do that and then take them out.
Oh, that's the flashing lights thing. Yeah, I'll never do that to anyone.
Yeah. Just in case.
I also, when I'm on like a long road trip, if you're on a long road trip like a couple people like maybe two maybe not three uh like those longer um story type podcasts are really good where it's like you can do like a six-part series one we're like all right let's just hammer this out it's kind of like you're binge watching something but you're just listening yeah i think i did that one time with uh it was the charles manson thing yeah it was like 12 episodes yeah so it's like eight hours yeah you feel like you're in a story and you have to focus or you can do a book on tape and you'd be like i read something on the way that's lame all right this one is it's it reads to me as if it's fake but it's so inconsequential that i feel like it might be real. Does that make sense? Yes.
Hey, PMT boys, smiley face. I recently started seeing this guy and I thought things were going great until my best friend saw him in a parking lot late at night making out with another girl in his Jeep.
She did get a pic and it ended up being his ex. What do I do? I love it.
Making out in a Jeep. That sounds fake, but also like if you're going to fake something, I feel like you would say something more controversial.
Which then makes me think it's real. Big time high school vibes.
Yes. I think the person that wrote this is probably like 16 or 17 years old.
You got to make out with his best friend. You got to slash the tires.
Oh. Of the Jeep.
Do you want to finish that? Because that's a good segue. Okay, go ahead.
Can I egg my ex-boyfriend's house? Or what is an alternate form of revenge I can take? He really fucked me over. I'm assuming this is his parents' house? Is this also high school? No, I even like it better if it's like an adult egging another adult male's house.
That's awesome. Yeah, that's cool.
do that tp is tree too tell his mom yeah yeah that's yeah that gets that's fucked up yeah that's a that's a great piece of revenge right there if a guy cheats on you tell their mom get in touch with him on facebook and be like hey your son cheated on me yeah and mom or sister yeah mom will take your side 100 yeah that's evil billy That's fucked up. That is fucked up.
I feel like you've had your mom told... No, it's cool, dude.
Chill, chill. All right, chill.
How many times has a girl contacted your mom, Billy? Not to say that you were cheating, but to see that you were alive. Chill, bro.
Chill. All right? Chill.
Once. But more like three times chill chill these are kind of all

we have some random ones and then there's another like clearly

fake one we've been out of practice where would you like me

to go I'm okay with

the clearly fake one alright hey big kitty

hunk and PFT bag

hey to all the other boys also

my boyfriend and I have been together

for two and a half years now we moved in together almost

a year ago and things have been fine

Thank you. Hey to all the other boys also.
My boyfriend and I have been together for two and a half years now. We moved in together almost a year ago and things have been fine.
Nice place. But the first problem came with our view.
Our apartment window has a view facing other units in our complex. So you can see into other living rooms when the blinds are not closed.
Anyways, a couple of days ago, I noticed a girl in her living room checking out my boyfriend as he was walking through our living room nude in the morning for some reason since that time i've seen her check them out whenever the blinds are open and they happen to be looking out the window at the same time a few days ago she knocked on her door and when he answered the door she kissed him and gave him a piece of paper that had her apartment number and phone number i want to do something with this info knowing that our lease is up soon so i. What should I do? Egg her house.
Egg her front door in the hallway. They live in the same apartment.
This is very clearly fake. I don't know.
If they didn't see the girl. Wait, the kiss? Like, you just open the door and kiss and then hand a note? Yeah, it's like a...
I think a lot of people have been corrupted by terrible Netflix shows. We're like, this is how love happens.
And porn. Yeah, and porn.
I would say this sounds more like the start of a Netflix murder show. Yeah.
Where she comes over, kisses, leaves the number. Taking my shot.
Then they get together and she stabs him in bed. Yeah.
Have you been watching You? I haven't, no. Oh.
What's that? It's a Netflix show, You. It's pretty good, actually.
Three seasons. I won't say anything else, but that's very similar to something that would happen there.
Sup, this is a little higher education, but it's a good one. Sup, Handsome Hank, Big Cat, PFT, Jake, and Wild Bill.
This is for higher education. My roommate has smoked all of us down the entire year without asking us to pay for weed.
I love that phrase. He has always said, don't worry about paying him, but he lately has been giving us subtle hints to have us pitch in.
I'm a broke college student and don't have enough money to fully supply his weed cache. What is a nice way of saying thanks for letting us smoke your weed, but I can't pay you? Just buy him shitty weed.
Thanks, boys. Keep up the sick content.
The highlight to my week is listening to the pod on my way to class just buy him shitty weed that's that's step one but i was confused i was thrown off right off the bat because when you said that he that you've smoked him down i would assume that the person that's smoking somebody down is uh just like smoking their weed smoking somebody up is like if i smoke you up big cat yeah Cat, I'm getting you high. If I smoke you down,

I feel like I'm smoking your weed away from you.

But that's the opposite of what he's saying, right?

Yeah, that's the opposite.

So he's saying that, like,

how do you repay a guy that... Yeah, he's like, let's smoke,

let me smoke you down.

The guy that's been the provider of the weed.

You gotta clean his bong.

And, yeah, you gotta clean his bong.

Maybe do, like, a gravity, uh... Or no, what are they called? I was saying you gotta suck bong.
Maybe do like a gravity

or no, what are they called?

I was saying you gotta suck his dick.

Build him a gravity bong.

Build him a gravity bong. I made this for you.

You know how like some sororities

do that where they decorate the other guys cooler

when they go on a date? Build him a gravity bong

that you decorate with things that remind

you of them. In my days

of being a broke college student trying

to smoke when it was really

dark times, we would do this

Thank you. that you decorate with things that remind you of them.
In my days of being a broke college student trying to smoke when it was really dark times, we would do this thing called a graveyard blunt where you would just take all the roaches and break those down and roll something up. And scrape the bowls.
Yeah, like resin bowls. Maybe that's something you take all the stuff you've already smoked and give them a little present.
Like here's a little graveyard blunt. That just been sitting in the bottom of your bong and bubbler.
The THC does get to the bottom of this. It can be a potent little stick.
Is that true, or is it just like people say that? Like, yeah, actually, this resin right here is super potent. I have no idea if it's true.
I've always believed it, though, because they say the THC goes down to the bottom. So that's why when you smoke a little roach, you get just as high as smoking a big joint.
Maybe that's placebo. I've always believed it, and I will continue to believe it, no matter what anyone tweets at me today.
Well, remember, also, all high facts were created by one high guy who then told another high guy, and then it just became a fact. There needs to be a scientific website out there just for stoners to put their evidence of all the high facts they've come up with.
But just think about the idea of when you attained that knowledge was when you were high from a guy who also was high. And he's like, dude, did you know this? Best way to pass a drug test? Actually, don't exercise for the week leading up to it because the THC is stored in the fat and it'll leak into your system if you burn off too

much of it. Basically Billy.

Yeah. If steroids

were marijuana.

We'll end with one

hypothetical here

or high question it seems like.

How come when I drink beer it's

pee colored but when I piss it out it turns clear?

Am I a Brita filter?

Get there. No, it's because it's a doretic.

Alcohol is a doretic and why it dehydrates

Thank you. How come when I drink beer it's pee colored, but when I piss it out, it turns clear? Am I a Brita filter? Get there.
No, no, it's because it's a duetic. Alcohol is a duetic, and why it dehydrates you is because it flushes all of the liquid in your body out through your piss.
So even though it may seem like it's hydrated piss. Oh, so it's like Kirby.
Bam! It's like a snowball. How you like them apples? Our boy's wicked smart.
It gets all your liquid out faster. Hell yes, Billy.
It's diuretic. Diuretic.
Yeah, I thought it was diuretic too, but I'm going to let him go. I'm not going to.
Whatever Billy says is fine. Listen, you were in the zone there.
It's like cranberry juice. Chill, PFT.
That's actually like the perfect Billy thing to answer a question completely correctly, but also just butcher the pronunciation. I love it, Billy.
You were in the zone. You popped up there.
I never knew how to pronounce that word because I only read it. We're not a big pronunciation podcast.
We're not a big facts podcast. You know what we do do? We disavow Nazis.
Fuck yeah. Speak phonetically.
Yeah. Speak phonetically.
Loose facts. Bad opinions.
Emmanuel Atchero would actually have a great time on this show. I'm thinking about it.
Yeah. Alright.
Let's do numbers. We'll see everyone on Friday.
Oh, I got a little recap. Hopefully.
Alright, go for it. Hopefully no big news breaks in the next like two hours because it feels like every two seconds.
Like that Calvin Ridley clip, I bet you could find an even better Tyreek Hill clip. Yes, yes.
Because he bounces back like 10 yards. It's so stupid.
It was so stupid to see that clip and be like, oh, dude, he's definitely throwing games. There was one that I saw that was, I think it was, oh, it was Deshaun Jackson.
Like, you could make the argument about Deshaun Jackson. Oh, yeah.
That based on how he behaves around the one-yard line, he would be the guy that you would point at. I think Chip Kelly did try to do that.
He did. Again, not making any accusations, but the evidence is damning.
Yeah. Here's the clip.
Love you guys. Oh, wait.
Numbers. I'm gonna go 46.
25. 22.
22. Hey, guys.
Huge news. Hang on before you do the numbers.
Breaking. What? Breaking moves.
Dickie V has announced his March Madness starts with a W. His PET scan shows that he's cancer-free.
Oh, fuck it up for Dickie V. Rico is probably despondent.
Fuck it up for Dickie V. It's disgusting.
That's the first place your brain goes when you hear that Dick Vitale is alive. Yeah, because his brain is disgusting.
This pisses Rico off so much. Because Rico wants him to die.
You want him to die. I'm happy for Dickie V.
March Madness would not be the same without him. Yeah, no, I'm very happy.
You want him to die so you can make fun of Rico for wanting him to die even though doesn't because you're a sick fucker. No, he wants him to die.
He hates him. I know ESPN doesn't have the rights.
He needs to call a March Madness game. Yeah.
Do the right thing. I agree.
I agree. It's kind of like Mr.
Portney. Remember when Mr.
Portney was like, I felt bad about Stuart Scott, but I hated that guy. All right, numbers 22.
69. 3.
25. 40.
Rasticulous. 6.
Follow the Skeleban on Twitter. Yes.
No, don't do that. Skeleban meeting at this.
54. I feel like we've had that a few times.
Third timer. OMG, all the prayers many of you have sent have been answered as Dr.
Brown, who heads my cancer team, called and said,

Pet scan came back.

No cancer is showing.

I feel like a coach playing for the Final Four has a PTP or hit a shot at the buzzer.

My March Madness starts with a W, baby.

Love it!

I love that Dickie V tweets exactly how he talks. Oh, yeah.

Love you, guys.

Love you, Dickie V.

54 is such a linebacker number, and dinosaurs are closer to birds than lizards. Today is another day to find you Shying away I'll be coming for your love again Shying away I'll be coming for your love again Take on me Take me on I'll be gone P after all change Needless to say I'm all excited But I need to throw it away Early learning that life is okay Say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Say after me. It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me. Take me on.
I'll be gone. In a day of time Oh, things that you say Is it a life bulb Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll become Inactive I'll become

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