Mark Cuban, Catching Up On CBB & A Very Dumb Hypothetical

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we got our good friend Mark Cuban back in studio. Great interview with him.
Pitch him a couple ideas, talk a little NBA, talk a little business.

Speaker 1 We have

Speaker 1 a hypothetical we're going to throw out there. We're going to also maybe talk.
We have Jake back.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Jake for being back. Maybe checking on a little college basketball.
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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, February 25th, and we're going to read the room. We got to read the room.
Reading the room.

Speaker 6 We're currently reading the room right now. And to be fair, we're recording this at 3.20 in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 To all things with love.

Speaker 6 So we don't know what's going to happen for the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 To all things with love.

Speaker 6 Reading the room. PMT grit.

Speaker 6 There it is. It's another thing that's up in the room.

Speaker 1 To trust the timing of your life. Actually, I don't know why we're even saying this.
I don't know if I saw Annalyn McCord released a poem at Putin, so I think we're all set. Yeah, well, on Twitter.

Speaker 6 Well, I think we can say as a podcast that we are officially putting Putin.

Speaker 6 I'm on my last straw with Putin. I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 6 Last straw alert.

Speaker 1 Hank is now holding up a sign that says, keep your eyes on the stars and your feet on the ground. Love it.
All right, we're done reading the room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Putin disavow.

Speaker 6 Last straw.

Speaker 1 Disavow. I'm going to go ahead and just disavow.
I'm just going to get that out of the way. Disavow.
I do.

Speaker 1 The Read the Room people came out on Wednesday night when I was, I want to talk a little college basketball, Jake, when I was watching Providence and Xavier

Speaker 1 three overtime thriller. And it reminded me, we all just need to be a little bit more more like Dickie V in our lives.

Speaker 1 Because I want to tell you, I want to read you a tweet from Dickie V from a few years ago.

Speaker 1 This is how you effectively read the room, folks. Okay.
So, obviously, world, you know, war happened last night, or it's happening, started. World War III, is that what everyone's saying?

Speaker 1 It's World War III now.

Speaker 6 I think there's some people that like secretly want it to be World War II.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. They're like, oh, damn, I'm living through history.

Speaker 6 Yeah, everybody has this opinion that they're so important that whatever's happening is the most important thing that's ever happened in the history of the world. Correct.

Speaker 6 So some people are like, yep, this is, you know what, this is exactly like the invasion of Poland in 1939. Right.

Speaker 6 Some amateur historians are saying that completely lacking context for all the things that are different about what's going on right now.

Speaker 1 Do you know what the most shocking part about that tweet from Billy was if you looked at the quote tweets, there were people who were like, damn, that's so profound. I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 Where are we? All from people who are in their early 20s. And don't get me wrong.

Speaker 7 Oh, shit, dude.

Speaker 1 He is right.

Speaker 6 Listen, we are disavowing Putin. It's fucked up what he's doing for sure.
But like, you can't, there's so many things that are different.

Speaker 6 One thing that I learned a while back is that not everything that's bad is Hitler. Not everything that's good is Jesus.
That's true. Something to remember.
That's true.

Speaker 1 There's also throwing on a quote board. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Throw it on a board on a t-shirt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was another quote of Billy's tweet that was like, a guy who watches nothing but World War II

Speaker 1 movies sees war break out and is like, damn, this is giving me some World War II vibes.

Speaker 6 No, Billy's, Billy's like, yo, this is, this reminds me so much of Verdance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, damn, this is

Speaker 5 me and Billy were actually playing Call of Duty when this was happening, and he dead seriously was like, dude, we're playing Warzone right now, but like in Ukraine, it's actually a War Zone.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Like, this is really happening there.

Speaker 6 As an amateur warologist, I can say, I just, I don't know. I listened to a couple podcasts about college basketball, a couple podcasts about war.

Speaker 6 From what I can tell, like, like the Ukrainians, I think they're like 65% of them said, once there's an invasion, we're going to just take up arms, just like the general population.

Speaker 6 So it's going to be, it's going to be pretty messy over there for a while. That's my analysis.

Speaker 1 Are we doing real war talk? That's my real war talk.

Speaker 1 I was going to say the Dickie V tweet, I don't really know how to go off real war talk. Do you want to

Speaker 1 put a bow on the real war talk? I don't know. Let me tie it back to sports.
You said we're going to do real war talk.

Speaker 6 Let me tie it back to sports. So this this whole thing started, in my opinion, when

Speaker 6 Putin was appeased and coddled by Robert Kraft, Hank's owner, when he took the Super Bowl ring from him, and Robert Kraft didn't say shit. He was just like, okay.
So it's like baby steps.

Speaker 6 You give a mouse a cookie, he'll ask for a glass of beer.

Speaker 1 He was preventing World War III.

Speaker 6 No, he, no, because Robert Kraft didn't stand up to Putin. Now Putin thinks he can take anything that he wants and no one's going to say anything.

Speaker 1 Well, PFT, let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 Some people are saying that...

Speaker 5 And when you have six, it's like,

Speaker 5 what's losing one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, some people are saying, though, if Putin was maybe six feet tall, he wouldn't be so fucking aggro all the time.

Speaker 1 My history is written by a bunch of angry short dudes trying to convince everyone they're not short.

Speaker 6 I agree 100%. In fact, I tweeted that out last night.

Speaker 6 I said this is just another example of like a short person that shouldn't be allowed to hold office, and all of a sudden they're in charge of a big army with cool guns and stuff.

Speaker 6 And this is what you get. We should, and I'm saying we, like, if you're five foot nine or less, you should not be in charge of of country.

Speaker 1 Okay. I will fully admit, like, my people.
Take yourself out of the running.

Speaker 6 My people have a deficiency, and that's like, we like to try to take over the world.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Try to prove everyone that you're not.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, we, we should not be allowed within 50 miles of a nuclear missile.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Um, so the Dickie V tweet that I was referencing that I think everyone should just take a page out of his book, follow Dickie V.

Speaker 1 Um it reminded me of it. It was, I can't remember when this was.
Someone could do the dates on the actual things that were happening in the world.

Speaker 1 But he tweeted, like many, I've been following the news involving the attacks on al-Assad bases in Iraq by Iran. Also, I've been checking hoop news, and four teams should get a tip of the hat.

Speaker 1 Rutgers, Providence, Maryland, Boston College. They had W's over Penn State, Marquette, Ohio State, and yes, Virginia.
That's how you do it, folks.

Speaker 1 That's how you acknowledge the room and then just hop right into the good stuff. You blend it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you blend it a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's like, here, this is happening. And now, how about that win by Rutgers?

Speaker 6 This is why Twitter needs different rooms, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 6 If you want to be in the room that's all war talk all the time, there should be a war room. If you want to be in the basketball room, you can be in the basketball room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't. I mean, it will forever baffle me when people are like, How have you not talked about this? I don't fucking know what's going on.
I'm not smart.

Speaker 1 I've read a couple articles, but I do not feel smart enough to talk about it.

Speaker 6 There are other places that you could go to get correct

Speaker 1 analysis. Yes.
There is one thing that I'm very concerned about, and I just want to say this out loud.

Speaker 1 In 2020, I had a run where I was 8-0-1 in college basketball, and then COVID broke out and ended all sports.

Speaker 1 I'm currently on a run of 5-0-1.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if history does repeat itself, like Billy said, 1939, same as today, are we a little worried if I win my next three battles?

Speaker 5 I think you need to make

Speaker 5 a game of the world might end tomorrow.

Speaker 6 if i go if i get to 80 and one i think that everything's gonna get how about you make a the last bet you'll ever make bet

Speaker 1 okay right like what yeah what like a game of your lifetime oh man the last bet of all time right now the end of the world bet the end of the world bet but if you lose the end of the world bet it's the end of the world no but that just means that it's not the end of the world okay

Speaker 6 so it's like a it's a 50-50 you're gonna win heads you win tails you still win

Speaker 6 because if it's the end of the world and it actually happens and you win the bet guess what you won your last huge bet that was a great time and now

Speaker 1 the end of the world and now the end of the world but if you lose it it just means that the end of the world is not actually going to happen yeah okay maybe i will i did win my let bygones be bygones better than that bet of the year yesterday so that felt good let's talk a little college hoops who's that michigan yeah michigan uh jake is back We haven't seen you in what, a week and a half?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been a while.

Speaker 1 Where have you been?

Speaker 3 I had a few weddings down in Florida. Then we had a bench mob trip in Iowa.

Speaker 1 I'll get to my Fire Fest later, but it was a big one. Yeah, how'd it go? It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 It was cool to be in Big Ten Country. The game stunk.

Speaker 1 Iowa killed Michigan State.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was never a game. Luca Garza got his jersey retired, so that was really cool.
Listen to Bench Mob on our details from that, but it's the best time of the year.

Speaker 1 It is. Like Rossine says it, like.
I'm really not going to sleep much these next few months. Seeing Lenardi on the screen last night, I was like, god damn it, this is it.

Speaker 1 Like, this is when it gets really, really good. That Xavier providence game insane providence if you have not followed college basketball this year providence is maybe um

Speaker 1 the greatest and also while admitting that they're also have some luck on their side they're like a heart attack every single night and they're also have three losses on the season and cooley coach of the year yeah ed cooley mark adams for texas tech or tommy lloyd from arizona i think tommy lord martelli tommy lloyd's done a good job i don't know phil martelli yeah yep

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 bruce bruce pro might get it too yeah good yeah

Speaker 1 I don't, I'm not a buyer in Auburn.

Speaker 6 I think Auburn's got some fatal flaws. You want to get in some round ball talk?

Speaker 1 I'll talk round ball with you.

Speaker 6 I think that there are scoring threats at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 Where's what podcast is this from? It's not from a podcast. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I've been grinding the film.

Speaker 6 No, I don't trust them.

Speaker 6 At the end of the game, if you're going to your fourth option in an end-of-the-game scenario like that, that means that you don't have any true scoring threats that can, like, you can't run ISO.

Speaker 1 Who does Auburn go to to if they have the counterpoint?

Speaker 3 They might have the best player in the country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do. He could be the first pickup.

Speaker 6 Yes, but is he an ISO guy?

Speaker 1 He could do it all, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's awesome. What was the other game that Yukon Villa

Speaker 3 is block charge?

Speaker 1 I'm actually also thinking UConn might be a real team in March. I'm back on that.

Speaker 3 Hurley's ejection was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Hurley's ejection.

Speaker 3 For pumping up the crowd.

Speaker 6 Jake Gregory.

Speaker 6 Where do you stand? I'm sure you've covered it on Bench Mob. Go download Bench Mob if you haven't already.
But where do you stand on the Juwan Howard Greg Guard saga?

Speaker 6 I have a feeling that you might be a diplomatic. You might be a guy who's like,

Speaker 6 this is ugly. This is an ugly scene for college basketball.
We don't need this in the game.

Speaker 1 I mean, look,

Speaker 3 when I listened to you guys the other day, like, it's great for the sport because people are talking about it over anything else.

Speaker 1 But the...

Speaker 3 There's a line crossed, I think. When the head coach is the one strike, we've seen player fights plenty of times, Malice at the Palace and things like that.

Speaker 3 The coach is the one, especially at the college level, they're the one who's supposed to be the leader, like guiding these kids, being mentors in their life. Not to say Jawan Howard is not that,

Speaker 3 but you just can't have that in that in that spot.

Speaker 6 Can't have it. Were you calling for Jawan Howard to be fired?

Speaker 3 No, I think that's way over the top.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 3 the suspension is probably what I would have expected. It's kind of hindsight.
I think if they did through the tournament, that would have been a little excessive as well.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 Michigan might make the tournament.

Speaker 1 That'd be some redemption. I think they probably will because they're going to be a good one.
They're having a little run. They're my national championship pick in the whole season.
What about...

Speaker 1 Did you have?

Speaker 3 No, no, you didn't have Wisconsin. No, I had them out of the brain.

Speaker 1 What did you think of PFT's Auburn analysis? Are you buying Auburn? I also just don't trust, like, I feel like they,

Speaker 1 I guess their tempo isn't as fast as it's always been. But high-tempo teams, it feels like if you get in a shootout, anything can happen.
You kind of.

Speaker 3 I just, I don't know. In the tournament, just having the best player on the floor just makes you more comfortable.
I with them, they're going to have that most of the time.

Speaker 6 So I agree that they will.

Speaker 1 But I don't know.

Speaker 6 Maybe it's just just me and what I prefer to watch when I'm watching basketball. But if your best player is, and your best scorer is like a catch-and-shoot guy, to me,

Speaker 6 you're going to run into trouble later on in the tournament, especially as games close out.

Speaker 1 But they have some good guys.

Speaker 1 They've got Katie Donkey's good. Walt Walcastle is good.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Multiple options.

Speaker 6 I'm not saying they're going to lose in the first round. I'm just saying I don't know if I buy Auburn going back to the Final Four.

Speaker 1 They are, what, top 20 in both defense defense and offense?

Speaker 3 16 offense, eight defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they have those. They have the, if you want to do the Statner thing, they definitely have.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and they realistically could be undefeated. In Atlantis, they lost that

Speaker 1 game of the year. Ride the Must Bus base.
It was overtime.

Speaker 3 I'm saying, like, they haven't looked bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 So, what about

Speaker 6 San Francisco?

Speaker 6 They're my dark horse, right?

Speaker 1 WCC. Yeah.
I mean, let's hope this one. They'll host Gonzaga tonight.
Yeah, they beat Gonzaga. They do play him well.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this spreads 10. Gonzaga, though, they have not, I don't think they've had a single-digit game since December.

Speaker 6 Since they lost to Duke?

Speaker 3 No, they lost to Alabama by nine.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But, yeah, they've throttled these teams. So.

Speaker 1 Oh, I had one last thing I wanted to ask you about college basketball.

Speaker 1 As a Syracuse grad,

Speaker 1 at some point, are you like, hey, Jim Boheim,

Speaker 1 maybe let's not just like run

Speaker 1 well they're they're basically running like AAU basketball with his sons

Speaker 1 Jimmy's actually been good. No, but Jimmy and Buddy both are like 35-plus minutes a game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, the Syracuse teams are always like that. They're always max like a seven-man rotation.

Speaker 1 Right, but it's just very funny to have two sons.

Speaker 6 They're always like that because they're both sons of the head coach. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 3 There's also some wild circumstances at the Michigan State-Iowa game.

Speaker 3 First of all, Fran McCaffrey, head coach of Iowa, has two sons on the team. And Tom Izzo's son, I think it was a walk-on.
He came in at the very end.

Speaker 3 It's a lot of of wild.

Speaker 1 Oh, I did see him come in at the end.

Speaker 6 Am I finally being vindicated on my take I've been squatting on for six years? Yeah, six years since 2016 about Tom Izzo. You think he's a fraud? That he's overrated.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, Rostein has the January, February Izzo.

Speaker 3 He has it won since 2000.

Speaker 6 Yep, true.

Speaker 3 But he has the final four in 2015, 2019.

Speaker 1 I think it's one of those

Speaker 1 sports arguments, it depends on where you frame him. If you're saying he's all-time great, he's definitely overrated.

Speaker 1 If you're saying he's a really fucking good coach with an incredible, like a lot of teams with deep runs, because

Speaker 3 they've not had like a good team since before I was there in high school, but they've made 316 since then.

Speaker 1 Right. And the tournament is impossible.
The single elimination tournament, you can't be like, oh, they suck because they lost in the second round.

Speaker 1 But if you want to be considered one of the best coaches, you have to win a second. That's the big thing.
Like, Cal needs to win a second. He knows he does.

Speaker 6 I almost feel like we should take March away from Izzo.

Speaker 6 I don't know if Izzo's has been holding up his end of the deal.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's already been taken away from him because haven't they? It feels like the tournament starts a little later than it used to.

Speaker 3 I mean, the championship is always in April.

Speaker 1 April, so yeah, he's good. He doesn't

Speaker 3 have the final four every year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, still be January, February, Izzo. Yeah, right.
So

Speaker 1 he's out before the end of March.

Speaker 6 I still like the idea that we finally reached the point where you can kind of disingenuously frame Tom Izzo as being extremely overrated.

Speaker 6 It's probably not true yet, but it's a take that I just take a lot of pride in squatting on that eventually will become true. He just needs to coach for another.

Speaker 3 They lost six of seven.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no name good.

Speaker 1 No name's good.

Speaker 3 Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm talking about Michigan State.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry, Steve. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Michigan State is very bad right now.

Speaker 3 They're still probably going to make the tournament, but

Speaker 6 what about UCLA? Have they not played their best basketball yet?

Speaker 3 No, I think a lot of people are just kind of hanging on to last year in terms of the preseason hype.

Speaker 1 They haven't had all their guys for the next one. Yeah, they've been banged up.

Speaker 3 They have been banged up. And the Pac-12, there's not a lot of opportunities to prove yourself.
Right. They have three tournament teams, and that's it.
Unless there's a bid stealer.

Speaker 1 I mean, Oregon has two big games coming up. They play UCLA and UCLA.
Or UCLA and USC.

Speaker 3 Okay, so there could be a fourth plus a bid stealer, but there's only three locks right now.

Speaker 3 So it's kind of like with Gonzaga. If you lose, people will talk about it.
If you win, people will just be like, eh.

Speaker 1 All right, last question is good. College basketball primer,

Speaker 1 your Big 12 champion.

Speaker 3 Big 12 champion right now is Kansas.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, I think Baylor lost Texas Tech.

Speaker 6 Yep, me too.

Speaker 3 Baylor lost a guy by the name of Jonathan Chamo-Chachua out for the year.

Speaker 1 That's a big blow.

Speaker 1 Thank you. But what about Texas Tech? So you didn't even have Texas Tech 2.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Baylor's two and Jonathan Tony. No, I was just saying why Baylor was out.

Speaker 3 I would say Texas Tech is two right now. I like Texas Tech.
Yeah, right now,

Speaker 3 gun to head, if Kentucky's healthy, they're winning it all. That's good for you.
25 to 1.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 I'm the only time in my life I've ever timed. Yeah, tie-tie.
My guy, tie-tie.

Speaker 3 And Severe Wheeler, the Georgia guy.

Speaker 3 But if they're healthy, I really think they can win it all.

Speaker 1 It would be, yeah.

Speaker 1 I've never timed a.

Speaker 3 I think they're second behind Gonzaga right now in Barcelona Sports Board.

Speaker 1 I'm the king of betting futures like way late and never doing anything correctly. And I got them at 25 to 1 in December, which was actually higher than their preseason.

Speaker 1 I think they were 20 to 1 preseason. Interesting.

Speaker 5 You had me bet the Wisconsin future at plus 4,000, and somehow now it's plus 6,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what

Speaker 1 that happens. I don't know what makes this thing happen.
People don't think Wisconsin is very good. I mean, they don't blow anyone out.
I still think that they could get to this to Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 They got Sweet 16 on half.

Speaker 3 Kentucky's plus 700, second favorite right now.

Speaker 1 Wait, but what were they before the season? That was my point. I somehow timed it.
I've never done that.

Speaker 1 I've never in my life been able to do that where it's like, oh, you got the best number possible.

Speaker 3 I'll have to find it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Kentucky's very, very good. Very, very good.
Anything else? College basketball? Anything else? Washing ball? Let's see.

Speaker 6 No, I'm just looking at my features. I got Duke at plus 750.
What are they at now?

Speaker 1 I think they're probably 10.

Speaker 5 It's worse than that. It's worse than that.

Speaker 1 It's plus 10. It's 1,200.
They're plus 12, 7 favorite right now.

Speaker 5 They're plus 1,400 preseason, so that's not even that much.

Speaker 6 Jake, Chris Beard,

Speaker 6 trying to make things work in Austin. He got booed in Austin already.
Yeah, Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 Texas Tech came in. Made them.

Speaker 6 Yeah, How short is the leash with Chris Beard?

Speaker 1 Hot seat. I mean, if they run him out, hot seats should just stop having a program.

Speaker 3 I think if they make it farther than Texas Tech in the tournament, all will be forgotten. Besides that one epic night in Love.

Speaker 1 I don't think they will. You don't think they will.

Speaker 3 I love Texas Technology. They had a guy leave the team, Trey Mitchell.
It's tough right now.

Speaker 6 I think Chris Beard created a moment.

Speaker 1 He looks like a little Rostein now. You got all the names.
I think Chris Beard created a system.

Speaker 6 And then he left, and now it's like running two perfectly well without him. Now he has to play against that old system for the rest of his career at Texas.

Speaker 1 Well, I love whenever a coach leaves a team and it's like, oh, no, like all these guys are leaving. And then you bring in a coach.
You have a coach that's older.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's always a winning proposition.

Speaker 1 Is Mark Adams? Yeah, Mark Adams. He was on the staff, right? Yeah,

Speaker 3 the story goes, some guys got on the plane with Chris Beard to move to Austin.

Speaker 1 See, that's Mark Adams than not. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 And he's a football guy, too. He's the guy that's like, you'll have to drag me out of here in a coffin.
I'm not leaving Lubbock, Texas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love it. Big 10 winner.

Speaker 3 Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 You're just saying that now.

Speaker 6 He also used to be an Army on the team.

Speaker 1 Did you know?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Purdue, I'm still waiting for them to click because they were the favorite preseason and they have the guys.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 1 Prisoner of the moment. Oh, this is a good one.

Speaker 3 No, no, not to win. Not to win.
I'm saying their offense is good enough to make a run every ball off an episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, every defense. Right, exactly.

Speaker 6 Gigam Murray, too. If Rutgers plays their best game, is there a team that can beat Rutgers at their best?

Speaker 3 Well, we'll actually be there Saturday, Wisconsin at Rutgers.

Speaker 3 You're welcome to come if you would like.

Speaker 3 But I'm very excited for that one.

Speaker 1 TJ asked me, our co-worker, who's a Rutgers Super fan, if I was nervous for the game, I was like, no, because Wisconsin. Do you expect to lose? Yes.

Speaker 1 Rutgers at the rack

Speaker 1 is the fucking dream team. It really is.
They are the original dream team.

Speaker 3 They are ranked team ranked wins.

Speaker 6 They beat Jackie Aprio.

Speaker 1 They beat everyone. Although, Juan Johnson has a revenge factor.

Speaker 3 Wisconsin lost at home last week to Rutgers.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm aware.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just saying. I think you're selling yourself short.
I think they have a better chance in this game than you think.

Speaker 6 Not Rutgers at home.

Speaker 1 Not Rutgers at home. Auto-bet.

Speaker 1 I won't bet it.

Speaker 6 The crazy thing is, like, Rutgers at Rutgers at home at their best is actually the best team in the country.

Speaker 1 It has to be against a ranked game. Yeah, a good team.

Speaker 3 What if I told you they lost to Lafayette on Monday, November 22nd? Lafayette is 10 and 18 right now out of the Patriot League.

Speaker 1 I'd say you know your ball. Yeah.
I'm just looking off. You know your ball.

Speaker 6 Jake, do you know? Would you say that you have more knowledge about college basketball than Marty Mush?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yes.

Speaker 1 Jake, don't be fake humble.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just worry about myself.

Speaker 6 That's a yes on both of them. Yeah, Jake, don't be fake humble.

Speaker 1 I worry about myself. Do my own prep.
I love how Marty rests from there.

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Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I subscribe to that theory.

Speaker 1 I like statement wins. Statement wins where you can hang your hat on it and be like, damn, dude, that's a fucking big win.

Speaker 6 What do you think about the ongoing escalations in Russian Ukraine?

Speaker 3 I tweeted about Ed Cooley and I got read the room.

Speaker 1 You got to just ignore the rest of the room for those people. Yeah, because I've said this before, and I'll say it for the millionth time.

Speaker 1 Think about for a second what the read the room person is doing. They are so

Speaker 1 allegedly obsessed and

Speaker 1 enthralled might not be the right word, thinking about this big global thing, so much so that they're spending their time on Twitter policing everyone else's tweets.

Speaker 1 So they're the read the room people.

Speaker 6 And again, it's Twitter. Yeah.
Like we're not, we're not actually part of the world.

Speaker 1 We're not

Speaker 1 sure if it did solve all of this. If we could just tweet mean things.
I think there was a tweet that was like, everyone tweet what you think about Russia to Russia. No, that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 That was from

Speaker 1 Ukraine.

Speaker 1 They're fucking owning them. Except

Speaker 6 for by the letter of the law and the Twitter terms of service, Ukraine could get kicked off Twitter for targeted harassment.

Speaker 1 It was a weak move.

Speaker 6 It would be the most hilarious 2022 move of all time. Also, we learned this yesterday.

Speaker 6 You should not call it the Ukraine. If you truly stand with Ukraine, you call it Ukraine because the word the implies that it's a part of Russia.

Speaker 6 So every time you use the word the, you give up, you cede two yards of territory of Ukraine to Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 1 Has Florio treated out Ukraine not weak

Speaker 1 gift yet? I'm Seinfeld. He's been thinking about it for 24 hours.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 What, before we do this hypothetical, are we okay to have Titus on, Jake? Yeah, absolutely. He's awesome.
All right. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, they got into a little bar fight in

Speaker 6 Los Angeles, right? That's right. You and Titus.

Speaker 1 Oh, me and Titus? Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, I showed up. I showed up to hang out before we did the dozen.
I got in there. Jake was already like three beers deep, I think.
Titus was trying to make him slow down.

Speaker 6 Actually, fun fact that we learned at this occasion.

Speaker 5 This is the funnest fact.

Speaker 6 This is a very fun fact. Jake, whenever he orders a beer, he simultaneously gets a water.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Taffer. So, but it's every

Speaker 6 time.

Speaker 1 He's chasing his beer with water. It's every time.

Speaker 3 I always have a water bottle with me at all times.

Speaker 1 Oh, water bottle. Did you do it the night that you were in that girl's ear explaining something? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 I had a bottle of Poland Springs in the back pocket.

Speaker 1 Body's light.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, excuse me. Body armor.
Body armor. And a chorus light.
Yeah, of course. Love it.
Love it. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's do this. So, what's hypothetical? If you could pick?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so it's just, I got the idea because I just, I saw that the Washington Commanders were targeting Carson Wentz as their quarterback.

Speaker 6 And I thought about it and I was like, I would rather literally have 11 Mitchell Trubisky's playing every position than Carson Wentz at quarterback.

Speaker 6 And then I thought, like, that's actually kind of a funny image to think about Mitchell Trubisky playing every single position. but the team would be so much better.

Speaker 6 Like, what would be the guy that you would choose to be in all 11 positions on your team on offense? And then we could also do one on defense.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was thinking it was both. I thought it was you, you pick one young player to play every position.
We can do that too.

Speaker 1 Also, we're taking out Aaron Donald from this because everyone's going to just be like, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald. Billy's now about to tell you why Aaron Donald's actually not that strong.

Speaker 6 No, he can't throw football.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 But that literature offense.

Speaker 6 I just sent you guys a video.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, actually, I saw it. I saw it.

Speaker 6 On Cordon, he literally can't throw football.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 6 And also him running routes downfield.

Speaker 1 There's no passing game.

Speaker 1 Okay, so my question to you, PFT for this, though, is are our teams going up against each other or are they going up against a regular team? Okay, because that matters.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I think the only way that we'd be able to do this is if they were all playing each other. Like everybody gets one guy, and then we determine whose team is the best amongst us.

Speaker 5 God, I feel like then we should write down our answer. Okay.
Because otherwise, your pick might affect my pick. Yeah.
And then

Speaker 5 we just have to let the audience decide.

Speaker 5 Write down maybe two in case we have similar ones.

Speaker 1 I have a bunch. Okay.

Speaker 6 I wish that you could go offense and defense because I just love the idea of having 11 honey badgers on defense.

Speaker 1 Just to clarify, just

Speaker 1 one person for everything. Every

Speaker 1 position.

Speaker 6 Every position. Just all little guys just running at everyone's knees.
It'd be funny. And probably pretty good, too.

Speaker 3 Does it have to be current?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 Played in the NFL

Speaker 6 was on a roster this year.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you're picking Antonio Brown.

Speaker 6 Hank's go pick Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 Did you?

Speaker 5 No, but I was thinking about it. Oh, I did.

Speaker 6 I guess I'm just a bigger Tom Brady fan than you.

Speaker 1 I guess so. All right, Hank.
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 DK Metcalf.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Big as fuck.

Speaker 5 Fast as fuck. So he's like,

Speaker 5 because I was going to pick Tyreek Hill. That was my first thought.
But then you got to think about the offensive line. DK is at least, you know, bigger, stronger, could hold some of those guys off.

Speaker 5 And he's fast as Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 6 Almost. Maybe faster.
Not quite, but he's... That's actually a pretty good pick because you do need

Speaker 6 size. I've seen him kick a ball too, I think.
I think he could actually punt if he had to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, the Tyreek Hill, I do think you could beat everyone with Tyree Kill.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 maybe these teams, like maybe Tyreek Hill versus DK Metcalfs, but if it's Tyreek Hill versus defensive line, I still think you could beat him with Tyreek Hill because you could just run around.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 That's my pick. Tyree Kill.
Okay. So

Speaker 1 I was going back and forth. I was like, so could I say what else I was going to pick or no? Everyone pick.
Everyone pick. Everyone pick.

Speaker 1 Where's yours? PFT.

Speaker 6 Debo Samuel. Okay.
Because he can already do it all. Like everything I've seen him do, he's great at.
I have no reason to believe that he couldn't do everything else great, too.

Speaker 6 Mine's Rob Gronkowski, but like a prime Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 1 Okay. Is that fair? That's a good pick.
Yeah. That's actually a great pick.

Speaker 1 So George. So you're saying George

Speaker 1 Prime.

Speaker 1 If you're saying Prime Rob Gronkowski, my answer would be Prime Cam Newton.

Speaker 1 Without a doubt, would be.

Speaker 1 I'll change mine to Cam Newton. I don't know if you do prime.

Speaker 6 I can't do prime.

Speaker 1 Because I would absolutely, my

Speaker 1 100% would be prime Cam Newton, without a doubt, I think would dominate everyone.

Speaker 5 I would say prime Tim Tebow.

Speaker 6 Tebow was actually my second pick. That's why I said on a roster this year.

Speaker 1 But if you go, like, I'm fine with you doing prime robber and Kowski. If you want to do current players who are in their prime, I'm switching mine to prime Cam Newton.

Speaker 6 But the thing is, Cam Newton doesn't dive on fumbles. I just don't, he doesn't have fumbles.
No, but now you're debating big cat crime. We need to figure out whether or not this is prime.

Speaker 5 The offensive line of Cam Newton might have died.

Speaker 6 I'll say only current players in their current form. Yes.
Well, Gronks lost a couple steps.

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 1 I killed him. I'll take Kill.
I'll take Kill. Kittle was on my list.

Speaker 6 Kittle was my number two behind you.

Speaker 1 Kittle was on my list. And Jake?

Speaker 3 I'm taking J.J. Watt.

Speaker 1 Wait, 11. J.J.
Watt. TJ Watt.
Okay, TJ Watt. Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah.
11. Is TJ on the show? Yeah, but TJ Watt is better than JJ.

Speaker 1 Take Derrick for Derrick. Yeah, Terra Watt.
Terror's lost down.

Speaker 1 I should do OBJ. What? Obj.
OBJ with a kick. He can reform.
He can throw any kick.

Speaker 1 He can't fucking leg.

Speaker 6 He did just have a baby, though.

Speaker 1 Tyrest.

Speaker 1 Obj.

Speaker 1 That's actually a good pick, though, because he can do everything.

Speaker 1 And there's videos.

Speaker 3 He spins it, and he can fucking kick it 50 yards. Yes.

Speaker 1 I was very tired. TJ Watt.

Speaker 6 But JJ Watt.

Speaker 1 TJ Watt. I just don't.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about it.

Speaker 5 He's my fucking boy.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it. You obviously want size and speed, but I do think Tyreek Kill's speed would just beat everyone.

Speaker 6 I think he would suck so bad at defense, though.

Speaker 1 But you wouldn't be able to stop him on offense.

Speaker 6 You just run on him. You just run on him.
Yeah, he'd be a liability against the runs.

Speaker 1 And then you just run on them in offense. It'd be a shootout every game.

Speaker 6 I think Debo could fuck 11 Debos could fuck up a team of 11 Tyree Kills.

Speaker 7 The only thing with the team.

Speaker 1 Not on Debill.

Speaker 1 Tyree Kills from a physical man.

Speaker 6 From a man standpoint, though,

Speaker 1 he's a snap at the same time.

Speaker 5 But then DK Metcalf would beat Debo Samuels by that.

Speaker 1 Correct, if you went by that same logic.

Speaker 6 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I guess that's the end of the debate. No,

Speaker 6 that's why I picked Debo. Think about it this way, Hank.
Like, can DK cover Debo Samuel?

Speaker 1 Can Debo Samuel cover DK Metcalf?

Speaker 6 It's probably more likely that he could than DK could cover.

Speaker 1 DK's got a significant size advantage. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He can't go sideways.

Speaker 1 I mean, he, okay.

Speaker 1 Are we debating it in

Speaker 1 joke version or

Speaker 1 real version?

Speaker 6 Debo is way better at going laterally.

Speaker 6 Agreed.

Speaker 1 We can agree on that. Yeah, but DK, like, if DK could definitely size-wise,

Speaker 1 if we're doing wear it down, like, and I'll concede, yeah, you'd run all over Tyreek Hill. I just think you'd snap the ball to Tyreek Hill and he'd run.

Speaker 6 The thing about Tyreek Hill is that a defensive Tyreek Hill, you could easily control possession because you just run the ball on him every time.

Speaker 1 But he could do the same to you, I'm saying.

Speaker 6 By running around, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like if it was Dyree Kills versus George Kittle, like he would just run past George Kittle.

Speaker 6 But what you just, but what if you just engage like it was a shootout?

Speaker 1 It'd be last team of the engage eight.

Speaker 1 He'd just run around and then throw it deep to the other Tyreek Hills.

Speaker 1 Who's wide open?

Speaker 6 Here's what the problem could be with Tyreek Hill is that if Tyreek Hill is blocking for Tyreek Hill, then he's got all these Tyreek Hills running with him and slightly in front of him, and he just runs into them.

Speaker 6 He has no true breakaways because he never is able to get past his own, all the other Tyreek Hills that are out there in space.

Speaker 1 I would basically, but my point is, I would run Sharkwheel with Tyreek Hill a hundred times a game. So it's just all the Tyreek Hills on the line fall down in front of everyone.

Speaker 1 The quarterback, Tyreek Hill, runs out and then either throws it or keeps running as Tyree Hill.

Speaker 6 I still think defense is a big liability there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course it is.

Speaker 1 He gets smoked. The other guys I had on there were Micah Parsons.
Jonathan Taylor would be a sneaky good one because he's got speed and size.

Speaker 1 He's a fucking monster, like 230 and can run a 4-3-9.

Speaker 6 Derrick Henry wouldn't be a bad option either. Derrick,

Speaker 1 he can pass.

Speaker 1 Lamar would be a good option.

Speaker 5 Because he could pass better than all these people.

Speaker 6 Darius Leonard. Imagine your whole team having diarrhea at the same time, though.
Yeah. I can.
Be a nightmare on the plumbing system.

Speaker 1 Now that I'm thinking about it, though, I think out of all of our picks,

Speaker 1 I think actually Hank probably won. I actually think DK might be the best pick.
Thank you. Because of his, because the size and the speed.

Speaker 1 He has the combo that it'd be pretty hard to stop. Like, I'm trying to think, like, over a course of a game, that size and speed would be pretty impossible.

Speaker 3 That run against the Cardinals is one of the more jaw-dropping things I've ever seen in sports. That and the Odell's catch?

Speaker 1 I'll be honest, I didn't fully think it out on defense,

Speaker 6 which was a mistake.

Speaker 1 And I think DK would probably be the best defender of... everyone besides TJ Watt.

Speaker 6 He's like close enough to everybody on the line.

Speaker 5 DK on the line versus like you're talking about covering, but you got Debo Samuels on the line going against DK Metcalf's or Tyree Kills.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be tough.

Speaker 5 Debo's a dog. Kittle would be fine, but.

Speaker 6 Debo's a dog.

Speaker 5 But then Kittle's not going to get any separation.

Speaker 1 Right. What do you mean?

Speaker 5 DK Metcalf is faster than George Kittle.

Speaker 6 I feel like Kittle will get separation, though.

Speaker 1 He might, but he's definitely not. He's not going to have.
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's Kittle, so probably, but.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Kittle gets separation from everyone. True.

Speaker 6 But you think Kittle can get push on DK Metcalf?

Speaker 1 I don't know what that means. This was either the dumbest thing or the smartest thing we've done.
I think

Speaker 1 it's leaning towards dumb, but I still like doing it.

Speaker 6 You know what would be a shitty team would be Kirk Cousins. I think that'd probably be the worst team.
Quarterback suck. If it was all Kirk Cousins.
Except Cam Newton.

Speaker 1 Cam Newton Prime, I do think, is the answer. Think about how big and strong and fast he is and can throw.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like he would have the one thing

Speaker 5 have any other...

Speaker 1 Well, Bo Jackson Prime would be the real answer.

Speaker 3 Isn't this just who's the best athlete in the NFL?

Speaker 6 Kind of. No, but it's like it's a little bit different than that.

Speaker 6 But it kind of is. It kind of is.

Speaker 1 It's a kind of, it kind of is.

Speaker 6 I feel like Cam Newton wouldn't block.

Speaker 1 It's like, who's the best, who has the highest measurables across the board? Who's the strongest, fastest guy across the board? It's kind of what it is.

Speaker 6 The answer is Aaron Donald, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it probably is Aaron Donald's. Although I like T.J.
Watt. T.J.
Watts' not a bad answer because I don't know how you'd score on a bunch of T.J. Watts.

Speaker 1 It's like a high school coach thing to be, I wish I had 11 of that guy. Right.
That's like your quote. Yeah.
I wish I had 11.

Speaker 6 So it's Rex Burkheads. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, that was fun.
I had fun. Did everyone have fun? I had fun.

Speaker 1 Billy, you didn't have fun?

Speaker 6 There was a little left out there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah? What was that? Give it to us. No, no, it was fun.
It was the prime thing? The prime Rob Guntrowski? I just really wanted to. Prime Gronk is a great answer.
I want to talk about Prime Gronk.

Speaker 6 He was a beast. Yeah.
Now, a hockey team, I'd take Putin's.

Speaker 1 Yes. All of them.
Yes. Yes.
Putins and Ovechkins, because they'd have good team chemistry.

Speaker 6 Well, that's my fire fest.

Speaker 1 All right, well, let's do, let's get to Mark Cuban. Okay.
All right. Yeah.
You got to add before we go.

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Speaker 1 Cuban.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend, recurring guest, I think fourth or fifth time on the show. It is Mark Cuban.

Speaker 7 New episode of Shark Tank.

Speaker 1 So we're running this tomorrow. Yep.
So if you're listening to this, new episode of Shark Tank on ABC tonight. Tonight.
Tonight. Friday night.

Speaker 1 Perfect night to sit down in front of the TV, watch a new episode of Shark Tank.

Speaker 7 And drink heavily.

Speaker 1 And drink heavenly.

Speaker 7 And buy all my shit.

Speaker 1 Yes, and buy every. What shit do we want to buy right now? You got any new apps or anything that we need to buy? Healthcare.
We're going to buy healthcare.

Speaker 7 Healthcare.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's my thing right now. You're a drug dealer, right?

Speaker 6 What's that?

Speaker 7 You're a drug dealer. I'm a drug dealer, and I'm good at it, motherfuckers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so we created a company three and a half years ago called Cos Plus Drugs. And the whole idea was just to fuck up the whole pharmaceutical industry.

Speaker 7 Because anybody who's ever had a prescription, particularly for

Speaker 7 generics, man, you just don't know what the price is going to be.

Speaker 7 So we did a deep dive on the whole pharmaceutical thing and basically created this company, costplusdrugs.com, where we have complete transparency.

Speaker 7 We go to the manufacturer, buy the drugs, mark them up 15%.

Speaker 7 You pay $3 to the pharmacy for fill, $5 for shipping, and that's it. And what ends up happening is if you don't have insurance, we saved your life.
If you do have insurance, it's cheaper than co-pays.

Speaker 7 So right now we've got about 110 different generics at costplustdrugs.com. By the end of the year, we'll have 2,000.
So if you have any type of prescription, check it out.

Speaker 7 You know, if we have your drug, we will save you money. I love it.

Speaker 1 So that's a very good thing. Saving people money and

Speaker 1 consume time and everything. Everything.

Speaker 7 Well, the whole thing, like the whole pharmacy industry is just fucked up right now because they have these things called pharmacy benefit managers.

Speaker 7 And what they do is they go to hospitals and insurance companies and they say, you know what, you pay us and we'll go out and get you best prices on drugs. And then they do that, right?

Speaker 7 They go, then they go to the drug manufacturers and they say, yo, this big insurance company, this big hospital, we control what gets in the door, right? We're the doorman.

Speaker 7 And so you don't get in unless you spiff the doorman. And so they'll buy these PBMs, will play doorman and go to the drug manufacturers and say, okay, you're going to sell to them for a dollar a pill.

Speaker 7 But for every pill that I sell through it or that they sell, you're going to give me 50 cents. And what ends up happening then, now all the shit is jacked up, right?

Speaker 7 So that's why you see all these crazy prices for drugs when the actual manufacturing cost is nothing. So they're the middleman.

Speaker 1 They're the middleman.

Speaker 1 This is like the wire. And you're

Speaker 1 exactly right.

Speaker 7 That's exactly right. You got to be pissy.
Well, we're still small, right?

Speaker 7 We've only been shipping for a month now.

Speaker 6 Are you Martin Shkrelli?

Speaker 1 Is that what you're doing? No, we're the anti-Martins. We're the anti-Martin yeah.

Speaker 7 Right. And that was actually part of the reason I got into this.

Speaker 1 Martin Skrelly, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, because I was like, if he can fuck it up and jack it up 750%, I can cut him by 750%. Right.
And so we just vertically integrated, right? It's pure shark tank. We said, okay, all these guys,

Speaker 7 it's like going to a club, right? The guy at the door is taking, you know, okay, give me 100 bucks to get in, or you're not getting in. That's exactly the way they work.

Speaker 7 You know, so we said, we're not going to do any of that stuff. We're not going to take any of the rebates.
We're We're just going to mark it up 15%.

Speaker 7 That's it. And the drug companies actually love us because the PBMs, the pharmacy benefit managers, make them look bad because they get all these rebates and they distort the pricing and everything.

Speaker 7 So bottom line is just if you have any type of prescription, go to costplustdrugs.com, sign up. If we don't have your drug yet or your mom's drug or your grandma's drug or whatever, we will soon.

Speaker 1 I like that, though.

Speaker 6 It sounds like it's a good thing that you're doing.

Speaker 7 Yeah, for real. Because there are people.

Speaker 6 You're making enough money to float the company, but it doesn't sound like this is a like,

Speaker 6 correct me if I'm wrong, but this is not your business that you're trying to get rich off.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm already rich, right?

Speaker 7 I don't need more money, man. This is a chance to change the game, right? So too many people, way too many people, like, all right, do I pay my rent? Do I pay my phone bill? Do I eat?

Speaker 7 Or do I get the drugs that I need to stay alive? Or do I like buy my drugs? And instead of taking the whole pill, I cut it in half. Too many, I mean, millions of people are in that position.

Speaker 7 And I was like, that's too fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it sounds like a great business idea, everything. Is this now something that you will use for your platform when you run for president?

Speaker 7 No, I'm not running for fucking president.

Speaker 1 Right now. No, ever.
We're in the middle of a

Speaker 1 two more years. No.
But yeah. No.

Speaker 7 This will be good. No, this is better.
Right. Because I don't have to deal with all the bullshit, right?

Speaker 7 I can just go and hopefully if this grows, you know, and we're adding thousands of customers a day, 10,000 plus on some days.

Speaker 7 And so if this keeps on growing, then I can extend it into other areas of healthcare.

Speaker 7 So like, so if you go to the doctor or you have to go to the hospital, instead of wondering, oh, fuck, how much is this shit going to cost, right?

Speaker 7 And being terrified it might not be covered under insurance, then, you know, we'll try to find a better way to do it.

Speaker 1 Okay. This, I mean, this is costplustdrugs.com, baby.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 6 I appreciate the fact that you're not running for president because I feel like anybody that wants to be president is an idiot.

Speaker 6 Either they're an idiot or they're like a power-hungry goon that

Speaker 6 I would not want to be president. That should be the test.
Like the person who wants to be president the least, that guy should actually be.

Speaker 7 Here's the reality in America. If you ever had fun in your life, you cannot be president.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I would probably disagree with that.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, lastly, last guy.

Speaker 1 I was going to say,

Speaker 1 but Killer did some...

Speaker 1 He railed some people. Yeah, but that was.
Julian had a fucking music. Yeah, but that was pre-social media.
That was pre-social media.

Speaker 6 George W. Bush.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was all pre-social media.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's the other way. I think it's going to be like our president in 20 years is going to be whoever the most

Speaker 1 president was. Let me rephrase it.
If you don't want to go through all that shit and relive it with your kids, you will get, yes, your whole family, your friends, everyone will go through the ringer.

Speaker 1 Right. I don't want to.

Speaker 7 My kids are 12, 15, and 18.

Speaker 1 No, we have our good friend Matt Jones was contemplating running for senator in Kentucky. Yeah.
And he gave us a heads up.

Speaker 1 He's like, look, if I run for senator, like my relationship with you guys will be scrutinized. And like, you're probably going to go through it.
We're like, all right, that's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys don't care. That's GPR, right? Right, it is.
Like, you have You have to talk to everyone in your life.

Speaker 7 Yeah, my 18-year-old daughter, right?

Speaker 7 She doesn't want to deal with that shit. It's like any kids with their parents, right? It's like, no, I want to live my fucking life.
I don't want to have to relive yours.

Speaker 1 Is she going to Indiana?

Speaker 7 No, I wouldn't let her.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 Because the basketball program.

Speaker 1 Why haven't you... In the NIL, let's go from here because I...

Speaker 1 I'm a Badger. I want Wisconsin to be what.
Michael Finley. Yeah, retired to Jersey the other night.
I want to be a booster. You have all the money.
Why don't you make Indiana great?

Speaker 7 Well, it's not about money to get great. You need to get the players, right?

Speaker 1 Well, you can get

Speaker 1 money to get the players.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, I did stuff for education. I just didn't want to make it about sports.
You know,

Speaker 7 I know it's kind of lame in some respects, but like I said.

Speaker 1 If I were an Indiana grad, I'd be so pissed at you. No, but people are pissed at me all the time.
Oh, yeah, I'd be so mad.

Speaker 7 Indiana fans are crazy. You know, I love them.
I am one, right? But the thing about Indiana fans is we all think we're basketball coaches, right?

Speaker 7 So I literally get emails all the time saying, can you believe the out-of-bounds player we ran after this timeout? Fire the motherfucker.

Speaker 7 You put up $10 million to buy him out because I was a sixth-grade coach for my son or my daughter, and I ran better out of bounds. That's IU fans, right?

Speaker 7 There's just no way to make them happen.

Speaker 1 It's religion in Indiana. For sure.
Yeah, that's you get the most passionate fans. But yeah, I would be pissed.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, because I guess you own a team. I feel like a lot of boosters.
are the class of people who can't own a professional team.

Speaker 7 Well, plus I'm limited to in what I can do. Why?

Speaker 7 Right, because as an owner of a team, I can't just go in there and start plugging guys' money because that's going to be a salary cap violation at some level, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 You know, yeah, how does that work, though? If it's NIL, I mean, it's basically the Wild West now, where nobody

Speaker 6 has any of the rules. I think it's going to be one of these things where we figure out what was against the rules retroactively after they're already broken.
Yep.

Speaker 6 But are you just doing that out of like an abundance of caution? You own a professional team. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You don't want to get tangled up in that, or is there actually like something preventing you from doing that?

Speaker 7 No, they're both, right? I don't want to get in the mix of the uncertainty because it's just not worth the grief.

Speaker 7 And then there are rules that I can't be dealing with, you know, players, right? College players or high school players. I can't even go to high school games without getting permission, you know?

Speaker 7 And so there's just a whole bunch of rules. But at the same time, I can invest in companies that deal with NIL, and that's what I've done.

Speaker 7 I just can't target specific players like that would help Indiana.

Speaker 6 Right. What about the other elephant in the room? Because I think you've talked about it a little bit.
I haven't heard much from you recently, but the NFL. Because

Speaker 6 we're about to see an off-season, and well, either this offseason or next, maybe a combination of the two, where maybe two franchises might become available to purchase.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no interest whatsoever. None.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You don't like money?

Speaker 7 That's not even about that. I got money, right? It's the emotional investment.
Yeah. Right.
It's people don't understand how bad losing hurts.

Speaker 7 You know, 82 games, if you're losing

Speaker 7 35 games, let's say it's still a decent season.

Speaker 7 That's a lot of me being pissed off and driving around Dallas or wherever I am because it's just the most frustrating thing ever because I can't do anything. Right.
Right.

Speaker 7 You know, whatever we do, we do in the offseason. And then once that ball goes up and they play the 48 minutes, there ain't shit that I can do.
And so it's painful.

Speaker 7 Winning is fun, but losing is far more painful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could see that. I do want, I have a complicated question about the NBA.
I would like to get your thoughts on. Sure.
In terms of like player empowerment, I know that

Speaker 1 the NBA is healthy if you look at streaming and all these things, but in terms of the average fan, like enjoyment of the NBA, do you think you're in a good spot right now? I think we're in great spot.

Speaker 1 You do. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, for sure. 100%.
Not even close. So you've got to look at it generationally, right? Just like when you were a kid, shit has changed, right?

Speaker 7 Because when we were growing up, every household had teams, right?

Speaker 7 Because you just watched the game on Sunday afternoons or whatever games were on hockey basketball whatever city you were in and it was kind of like okay that's what you did right there were three channels if you're old enough then there was cable and then there weren't a lot of choices now there's just an unlimited number of media choice choices and so kids gen z in particular consumes media completely different like my kids it's tick tock Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 7 But they're watching basketball. My son in particular is watching basketball highlights non-stop.
Right. Because TikTok just feeds that shit to you completely.

Speaker 7 So the NBA's problem isn't so much that, you know, our ratings aren't as good as the NFL or this or that. It's how can we TikTokicize how people consume the equivalent of TV ratings.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 Like how can you measure TikTok views and things like that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, we can measure it to a certain extent, but we can't deliver them the same way. Like I'm, I'm, I can't tell you which company, but I invested in this company.

Speaker 7 And the whole idea is that we'll we'll be able to take real-time feeds from different games at the same time, run them through AI.

Speaker 7 And if you're a Luca fan, you're just going to get highlights when Luca has the ball. If he's not in the game, you don't care watch.
But if you're also a Steph Curry fan, so

Speaker 7 if the Warriors and the Mavs have games at the same time, the AI will just feed you the highlights you light in 30-second bits.

Speaker 6 Okay, here's an idea. You just gave me an idea.
Maybe we can workshop this. It's like red zone, but it's just whenever Luca has the ball.
So in real time,

Speaker 6 in real time, it gets added to you. So, it's not even just a highlight, it's just like you get an alert on your phone: Luca's touching the ball right now.

Speaker 1 It's a TikTok show. James Harden never stops.
It's like JFK's flame.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 actual stream of him leaving it.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's like a TikTok version of Dennis Robinson.

Speaker 6 You get it by the time you open it up, he's already shot the ball.

Speaker 7 Right, right. It's a TikTok version of Red Zone.
But whatever you like, it uses artificial intelligence to figure out the stuff you like.

Speaker 7 Like, if you're only about dunks, if you're only about three-pointers, if you're only about blocks, you know, whatever it is, and you know, and or if you're just about one player, if you're just about Luca, right, and you're going to see, and Luca's not in the game, you might get a Luca interview, right?

Speaker 7 As opposed to even the game itself. But if we can package all that and get enough numbers, which I think we can, because that's where the trends are going, then it works.

Speaker 1 So I agree with you. Like, in terms of the star league, like the stars, some of the young players are so insane.
And it's like the level plays off the charts the NBA

Speaker 1 now. I do think, and I'll throw these out there because

Speaker 1 this isn't like how I feel. I just know that some people do feel like this because I love the NBA and I watch, I don't watch

Speaker 1 every single team. I watch the Bulls and I'll watch a Luca or whatever's on ESPN on a Friday night.
But like, for instance, the dunk contest. I know it's not a big deal.
It was lame.

Speaker 1 But it does feel like the stars don't care as much about the fans. Like that to me is like, hey.
Fans are investing in this. Why isn't anyone want to step up to the plate?

Speaker 1 Or I know there was the conversation about the locker room access that Adam Silver had.

Speaker 1 And it's like the players don't want reporters in the locker room.

Speaker 1 I think they should be in the locker room because we get stuff on a day-to-day basis from beat reporters, and we make fun of beat reporters sometimes, but it's like

Speaker 1 they get in tune with a team unlike any other regular fan who watches on TV. Like that kind of stuff, where it's like the players

Speaker 1 and they don't really

Speaker 1 fans.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, obviously the whole rest and like load management stuff, but there is some truth behind, like on a Friday night, if you're sitting down and there's the nationally televised game and it's like none of the stars are playing, it's like, what the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 7 No, no, I can't argue with you, right? And I think what's changed is players have control of their platform, just like you guys have control of your platform.

Speaker 7 I can walk in here as a reporter and say, okay, let's talk about part of my take. And there's things you're not going to say because you have your platform to communicate those things, right?

Speaker 7 And so that's the big difference versus even five years ago, six years ago, because because a 22 year old kid today a 20 year old kid grew up on Instagram now knows and is part of tick tock or has a YouTube channel right and so they already have it so they want to save some of their shit for themselves and I think that's part of the issue whereas with the NFL you know you take a team of 53 players you're gonna know two by sight right and only two of them are gonna have more than 10,000 followers or any on any of their social media platforms right and so guys want to control their own brand as part of it now that that said you've got to find that balance right right that's the hard part and that's what adam and the owners and all that shit you know we'll work on trying to find because you're right right the more access we give fans the better the product's going to be absolutely there's also that line i think as fans you don't know where it is but you can kind of sense when it becomes you realize like oh they don't really care as much about this as I do as a fan and I'm spending all my time worrying about it.

Speaker 6 Now, I'm not saying this is like every player, but I'm saying that like there there is a line that you would get to at some point where the fans are like, if I have more enthusiasm about this, if I care so much more about them than they do about me, why am I spending all my money?

Speaker 7 I don't know so much. Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to say, I agree with that, but I'm kind of making a little bit of a different point. It's more like the health of the league, not like specific.

Speaker 1 I'm not worried about the health of the league at all. But in terms of fan...

Speaker 1 There's a point where, and I think the problem with everything now is that the argument just gets split and pushed to the side. So it's people mocking the load management, being like, who cares?

Speaker 1 And people being like, I'll never watch the NBA again because of load management.

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of fans like me who are like, on a Friday night, if Luca's not playing, you're not going to want to play, I'm like, what the fuck? This sucks.

Speaker 7 But we do have rules, right, where it's like, hey, if you're able to play and it's a TV game, you got to play.

Speaker 7 But then on the flip side, if Luca plays a game that doesn't make as much or any star, right? And it's not as important a game and he gets hurt.

Speaker 7 And then like, you dumbass motherfucker, you should have saved him for the playoffs. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
But I get your point, right?

Speaker 7 Where you're talking about: look, are the guys as committed to the fans as the fans are committed to the league? Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 And I think they are, right? But I think the hard part for the league is to try to find that balance, right? Because we want the stars to be as big as possible.

Speaker 7 Because the reality is, fans are following the stars, the players, more than they're following the teams. All right.

Speaker 6 So, tough question.

Speaker 7 Sure.

Speaker 1 Do you think Adam Silver is a little too pro player at times? Because I saw the locker room talk that he did with his address.

Speaker 1 And I saw the anecdote passed around that when David Stern said that in 2007 they're going to do the locker room access, Scott Skiles, coach of the Bulls, stood up and was like, that's our sacred place.

Speaker 1 And David Stern was like, oh, geez, what should I think about $8 billion in our broadcasters or Scott fucking Skyles? Literally said that to him. And it's like, that's the point of.

Speaker 7 But that was a different era.

Speaker 1 Right. So, yeah, that might be the answer that the buildup is is different than it is.

Speaker 7 So, here's what you guys don't see, right? At halftime, dudes are on social media.

Speaker 7 So, there's that period where a guy walks in at halftime, takes off his jersey, right, puts on a clean jersey so you're not carrying that sweat, you know, heaviness.

Speaker 7 And the coaches are in their coaches' locker room, and they're

Speaker 7 revisiting what they want to say and the adjustments they want to make because you can't do that in real time during the game.

Speaker 7 So, the coaches take the 15 minutes at halftime, the coaches take three to five minutes.

Speaker 7 During that three, five minutes, guys are like off comes the jersey check my phone right so they're they're communicating most of them won't it it's pretty much against player rules right you know the unwritten rules to tweet or do anything during that time but they're checking just to see how things are going that connection is that strong yeah right so the players have such a strong connection to the fans so if you may be a huge mavs or bulls fans or whatever but if you're connecting to luca and the team you're on social media and we're communicating with you continuously.

Speaker 7 Sometimes where you get that disconnect is where fans, you know, maybe a little bit older are not social media literate.

Speaker 7 But anybody under the age of 50 for the most part now, they're on their phone while the game is on anyways.

Speaker 1 No, that's true.

Speaker 7 And so players are connecting more often.

Speaker 7 Like in the David Stern era, there is no player that was connecting personally and, you know, directly with fans as much as you do today.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, no, and I don't have the answer to any of this.

Speaker 1 It's more like I don't see a lot of people actually having an honest conversation about it because, again, it becomes a meme where it's like if you don't, if you if you criticize this, you're basically like saying, oh, the NBA sucks now.

Speaker 1 I want the 80s and 90s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't look at it that way at all. No, it's a great product right now.
Minus the end of games, which the reviews are just terrible. You agree with that.

Speaker 7 Which reviews?

Speaker 1 You actually have created this because you complained about the refs so much. Now we have to do an instant replay for everything.

Speaker 7 No, they changed it. Last two minutes, you only get the out-of-bounds, aren't reviewed anymore.

Speaker 1 But it still takes forever.

Speaker 7 No, it's like got cut by like nine minutes.

Speaker 1 The out-of-bounds stuff was really good. That was the way

Speaker 6 we zoom in on like a five-factor and see if the ball rotated at the last second.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 But to me, I was worried about that. We got rid of it because of all the gambling coming into play now.
Sure. Right.

Speaker 7 Because I was worried that we were going to cost somebody a shitload of money because we didn't check the out-of-bounds play, but I got outvoted.

Speaker 1 But listen, I mean, gamblers aren't irrational, so that's not

Speaker 1 worried about that.

Speaker 7 If you said, I'm all in on this right now, they're not yet.

Speaker 1 I'm not irrational at all.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, but what you're saying is you were thinking of the gamblers. Yes, no, you were.

Speaker 6 Thank you for your service. I appreciate that.
Now, what about the other owners in the league? How do you do you feel like you're one of the more popular guys amongst the guys?

Speaker 1 We're not that close. Really? No, it's not like.
You guys don't hang out?

Speaker 7 No, fuck no. There's some of them I'm more friendly with than others, right? But they do their thing.
I do my thing. We're competitive.

Speaker 7 Like, I'm friends with them, but it's like rare that I just go, hey, what's going on, man? What are you doing?

Speaker 6 What percentage of the owners do you think actually

Speaker 6 care about their teams as a fan, as opposed to which ones look at their teams as a business at the same time?

Speaker 7 I think they all do at some level because you have to. But some of them put more of an emphasis on business than anything else.

Speaker 7 And I'm not going to throw any of them under the bus, but yeah, there's definitely ones because I like that.

Speaker 7 The more guys who, you know, or more, not just guys anymore, but the more owners, governors, ownership groups that care cash first that's an opportunity for me hopefully to get some players because they're trying to cut their their payroll or whatever yeah and so yeah i'm fine with it so you said this earlier but you said you've got enough money and now you're talking about like you'd rather win than optimize profit necessarily

Speaker 6 as a governor um at what point did you say like hey i've got enough money because i feel like most billionaires they never reach that point in life where they're like okay i'm good now i mean like when i the day i became a billionaire i I was like, how much fucking money do you need?

Speaker 7 Like, when we sold to Yahoo for stock, there were a lot of people who just took that stock and like, let's just hope it keeps on going up.

Speaker 7 I did this thing called a collar where I protected my downside. I'm like, I got a B next to my name.
I mean, oh my fucking God, how did that even happen? Right.

Speaker 7 It's just like, thank you, thank you, thank you. Don't take it for granted, but don't fuck it up.

Speaker 1 Are you saying that just because now it's become popular to say, like, eat the rich?

Speaker 7 No, I've been saying that since day one, right?

Speaker 1 All right, that was a good test.

Speaker 7 I don't care about that shit.

Speaker 6 Do you get a little bit scared when people say eat the rich? Are you like, fuck?

Speaker 7 I don't taste very good.

Speaker 1 Maybe a little bit of a pineapple taste, you know, depending on what I am.

Speaker 6 This is exactly what a good-tasting rich person would say.

Speaker 1 Like, no, don't.

Speaker 1 Marbled it all.

Speaker 6 You're like one of those frogs that is like, careful, I'm poisonous, but in reality, it's just all bullshit. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know what? I've been poor. And if you would have asked me when I was sleeping on the floor, fucked up with nothing.
I mean, my first car in Dallas after my

Speaker 7 fiat broke down, literally my first car that I was able to make payments on was a car I saw on the side of the road. And I knew that car had been abandoned because it wasn't fucked up in any way.

Speaker 7 I went in there, I had my buddy stop the car, went in there, and I found the bank papers that, because it was an abandoned car, called the bank and said, look, I just found this car that someone abandoned.

Speaker 7 Will you let me take over the payments? That's how fucked up my financial life was.

Speaker 7 So if you would have told me back then, you're going to be worth more than a billion dollars and some hit, some people are going to be out there talking about eat the rich, would have been like take a finger yeah right take a hand right whatever we'll risk that i'll take my chances yeah um all right so you were in cleveland for the all-star game

Speaker 1 i love the ceremony this the 75 you know 75th anniversary What's the one guy, I know you've been around all these guys a lot, but who's the one guy that when you see, it still is like, oh, this is awesome?

Speaker 1 Or maybe best stories, you know?

Speaker 7 Dr. J.
Yeah. Dr.
J.

Speaker 7 Because when I was a little kid growing up in Pittsburgh, I literally snuck into the civic arena when they were saving, when they were filming the fish that saved Pittsburgh just to see Dr. J.

Speaker 7 That was my guy. So when I see him,

Speaker 7 that's like, I still get, you know, fangirly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I do, it was really cool to watch everyone because I do think the NBA has like a brotherhood and like a camaraderie through the years, unlike any other league.

Speaker 1 Well, because the guys like go at, you know, because they go at each other throughout their entire careers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, and plus there's, you know, five guys on the court at a time. Right.
Every other sport, you know, you know, at least the teams, the teams are bigger, right?

Speaker 7 So there's a personal connection between all of them. And at any point in time, put aside the two-ways, there's only 450 guys.
Right.

Speaker 7 Out of all the people who play basketball, every kid who's ever dreamed, there's only 450 guys in the NBA at one time. Which is insane.
It's just such a small club.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I feel like the players have done a good job. And this probably contributes a lot to the player empowerment that we're seeing right now.

Speaker 6 But players from way back in the day, they teach the next guys, like, here's how they're going to try to get it over on you. Here's how you optimize what you're doing.

Speaker 6 Because a lot of players in the you know 70s, 80s, 90s, even early 2000s, they were getting hosed.

Speaker 6 They weren't making enough money, and so they're kind of looking out for the next generation, which I think has brought us to this place here.

Speaker 6 So, maybe what I'm saying, like, that it's not the players caring as much as the fans do.

Speaker 6 I think there's been definitely like a shift in the pendulum of the players recognizing their value and then optimizing all that.

Speaker 7 Just look at social media, right?

Speaker 1 Of all

Speaker 1 entertainment, right?

Speaker 7 Basketball players, our top basketball players have influence like you would not believe.

Speaker 7 Basketball players, you know, and for better or worse sometimes, but you know, even guys that are 15th on the roster because of 2K, because of social media,

Speaker 7 because of where they went to college, if they went to college, they have a following that's more than the athletes in almost any other sport.

Speaker 6 And do you think that they're happier now than they were 10 years ago, 15 years ago? Because we see all the negative stuff, and it's been like a running joke on this show.

Speaker 6 NBA the least happy group of millionaires in their 20s on the planet.

Speaker 6 A lot of the superstars, you know, are either eating their way out of town or they're complaining about something. They're not showing up for a season like Ben Simmons did.

Speaker 6 But that might not be the case. It might be, you have a better perspective than we do.
But from our angle, we see just like a lot of unhappiness amongst the superstars of the game, which is unusual.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 Gen Z is different.

Speaker 7 Just far, far different. Coaching them is different.
Dealing with them is different. And I think they're happier because, you know, to be in the NBA, 99% of the guys were stars their entire lives.

Speaker 7 And so they've been in the spotlight on social media since they were 12, 13, 14 years old. And so they've learned how to relate.
They've learned how to come along.

Speaker 7 And they're also more mental health aware. You know, they're not just like, oh, don't be a pussy, right? It's like, get yourself some help.
Right. Right.
I'm with you, bro.

Speaker 7 You know, let me show you some love. Let me, let's talk about this.
Let's connect. You know,

Speaker 7 like I saw a highlight. It was Tyrese Maxi, and I forget who was talking to.
And it was in

Speaker 7 one of the events. Right.
And he was like, bro, I'm going to give you a hug.

Speaker 1 He goes, I don't need a hug.

Speaker 7 He goes, yeah, you just wait. I'm going to give you a hug.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 And, you know, you never, right?

Speaker 7 20 years ago, that kind of conversation,

Speaker 7 you would have been called out and and you would have been

Speaker 7 embarrassed somehow. Just the way players connect together.
Now, a 40-year-old, 35-year-old player doesn't have that same connection, but they follow each other on social media.

Speaker 7 Guys who used to play for your team are still liking their former teammates and all their posts.

Speaker 7 So there's just little things like that where you can send, a like on Instagram is like a hug.

Speaker 7 And it's just like, okay, bro, you posted this, your kids, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whatever, and I'm gonna just give you a like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a headline grab. Huh? What is the financial, what will the financial impact of getting drafting Bronnie Jr.
and getting LeBron for his last season in the NBA be? I don't even know.

Speaker 1 You know, you know. I really don't.

Speaker 7 I really, really don't know.

Speaker 1 You have no one who's run the numbers?

Speaker 7 No one who's run the numbers, right? Because it's impossible to predict how, you know, that's, I don't even know how many years from now. three, four, whatever it is years from now.

Speaker 1 Nice. You're just pretending to not know anything.
No, I don't. How old is Bronnie? He's junior in high school.

Speaker 7 Okay, so it could be three years from now.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 1 I mean, it wouldn't suck.

Speaker 7 Let's put it that way. It wouldn't suck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 I'd rather win, but I'd rather win.

Speaker 1 It's a great move by LeBron because it was like when you actually

Speaker 1 got smart by LeBron. Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 1 Someone's going to probably draft him a little bit higher now because you get LeBron for his farewell season.

Speaker 7 Or maybe two or three or four.

Speaker 1 Maybe two or three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Interesting. So, future Dallas Maverick.
Okay. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 We have a couple of ideas to pitch you, but last basketball question before that. What is success this year for the Maps?

Speaker 7 Competing for a championship, for real.

Speaker 1 So that's not,

Speaker 1 are you contenders? Are you officially contenders?

Speaker 7 I think we are, for sure. I mean, you know.
It takes time to adjust to a new coach.

Speaker 7 So we had to go from the Rick Carlisle era to the Jason Kidd era, and you can just see the improvement over the course of the season.

Speaker 7 I mean, we're 18 and 6 over our last 24 games, and our defense is top three over that period, and our offense is top 10.

Speaker 7 And if you're a top 10 offense and a top five defense, you have a chance to compete for a title.

Speaker 7 And Luca,

Speaker 7 you know, I give Luca so much credit that just the adjustments he's made, how he's learned, and how he continues just to get better.

Speaker 1 Well, that was one of my first ideas.

Speaker 1 I know PFD has a couple, but my first idea was you should just install funhouse mirrors in the Mavs practice facility because it's clear that if you can just get Luca to think that he's overweight, he's going to try a lot harder.

Speaker 1 No, that's not it. That is it.
You said it yourself. No, that's not it.
Like he was a fat ass. Now he's skinny and he's awesome.

Speaker 6 He said he heard the criticism. Yeah.
So would you like to thank us for joining into that criticism?

Speaker 1 Yes, we call it Luca. Luca's a little bit of sure.

Speaker 7 Luca's a big boy.

Speaker 7 I mean, in other words, he's matured, right?

Speaker 1 Like any other big boy, real big boy. Yeah, definitely.
Very big. Girl, our large son.

Speaker 7 Luca is smart.

Speaker 1 People don't realize how fucking smart he is, man. man he loves coffee yeah i know how smart he is you know and so

Speaker 7 he's figured it out and it just takes time sometimes um but the guy has figured out i love him i give him so much credit i mean he's he takes on every challenge you put in front of him he's a good dude he's great to talk to he's great to be around he you know he's got all the intangibles and you know he's just put it all together and it shows and how he's playing.

Speaker 7 I'm proud of the guy. I mean, I'm really proud of Luca because, you know, he took a lot of grief and he just said, you know what? Fuck him.
I'm going to get it done. And he has.

Speaker 1 There is a, like, you can see it in a lot of guys' career arcs where that like second, third, fourth year where they realize, oh,

Speaker 1 and LeBron's kind of given a good path for everyone. Like, oh, my body, like, is a...
enormous investment that I have to put a lot of money and time into. And it's not, you know,

Speaker 7 showing up. Because when you're 18, 19 years old, you never have to think about that.
Right. You know,

Speaker 7 but you know, you play 82 games and you start start to feel it. And guys learn over time.

Speaker 7 Like when I got to the maths, Dirk was eating Snickers, bars, and, you know, corn chips all day, every day for dinner, and you just couldn't do that. Right.

Speaker 7 And but it took him time to realize it, and he did. And, you know, Luca, every superstar goes through the same thing.
Think about the funhouse mirror.

Speaker 1 So you could do a little, I mean, it took you a while to win a title, did it not?

Speaker 1 Did it not?

Speaker 7 Think about it. Think about it.

Speaker 1 That you remember. You're still thinking about, think about it.

Speaker 7 I'm still thinking about thinking about it. Every time I hear someone say think about it, I think about thinking about it.

Speaker 1 money in my yeah yeah that should be money in my pocket yeah every

Speaker 6 get out of here i want to make you some money because i know that you're rich you don't care if you make any more money but this will give you the opportunity to lose money on all sorts of other good stuff for mankind done just by investing these products i'm a busy man i'll i'll be very brief uh first question do you smoke pot no have you ever smoked pot yeah do you agree that pot is getting too good i haven't smoked in a long time okay well let me let me get you up to speed on what's going on with gen z pot Because the weed now is so much more potent than it was even 10, 15 years ago.

Speaker 6 I'm not even talking like when I was growing up, people were like, oh, your parents' weed was nothing compared to this weed.

Speaker 6 The weed I was smoking when I was growing up is now it's all science, right?

Speaker 1 It's all called to be a science. It's too good.

Speaker 6 And there's a very large market out there of people who are my age, maybe a little bit older, that just want to smoke average weed. Right.
Just average. Just like.
Give me something I can smoke.

Speaker 6 I can still go out to dinner. I can still smoke.

Speaker 7 So you can't go to the dispensary and there's not old school shit?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 the old school shit that they say is old school shit will still like, I'll take two puffs of it. 30 minutes later, I'll need to like take a cold shower and lie down in bed with all the lights on.

Speaker 1 That's not a true thing.

Speaker 7 And let me just say, back in the day,

Speaker 7 I probably smoked pot three, four times, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Crazy, Mark.

Speaker 7 No, because

Speaker 7 I was one of those dudes that would be insane, right?

Speaker 7 I mean, I literally remember running headfirst into an open closet door, right?

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 7 I was just, I was a mess.

Speaker 6 Listen, so this is exactly for people like you and me that want just weed that you can chill out on. It's called bad weed.
Bad is the is the brand name. Right.

Speaker 7 I like it.

Speaker 6 Bad weed. We go after that market that's untapped right now.
It's not actually bad, but it's just super good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's like you don't always need 151 rum.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Right.
Exactly.

Speaker 7 Sometimes, you know, a spritzer is going to get you just enough of a buzz.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And just off the top of my head right now, we could even have a Cuban cigar

Speaker 6 line that often. I like it.

Speaker 1 It's actually a good idea.

Speaker 7 It's actually a good idea.

Speaker 7 Mom, Dad,

Speaker 7 I don't smoke the really intense shit. I smoke the bad ones.

Speaker 1 Those bad headaches. I smell it.
Right back.

Speaker 7 Johnny, you're only 14.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 maybe it's a smoke headache and then I go buy Advil from Mark's over-the-counter pill program. No, we don't do over-the-counter.

Speaker 7 It's costing me.

Speaker 1 I was trying to get some synergy. Oh, I know you were.

Speaker 6 That's idea number one.

Speaker 1 I thought about it. That sounds like a winner.

Speaker 6 I've been taught to quit while I'm ahead, but I'm also an idiot. So I came up with this idea.
Hank and I did a little brainstorming over the weekend because we both got back from vacations.

Speaker 6 We flew back, right? And I don't know if this is the case for you on your private jets, but when I fly, I get bad gas. I get really bloated.

Speaker 6 No matter what I eat beforehand, no matter what I'm doing, I get...

Speaker 1 Very bad thing? Very, yes, very, very bad thing.

Speaker 6 Because it's super uncomfortable. The farts don't smell on the plane, but it's still, I can't fart on an airplane because it's bad manners.
Right.

Speaker 6 So I just spend the next three hours feeling awful until I land. Then I land, I'm able to finally fart, feel great.
But I came up with this idea. I've got a prototype here.
It's called fart pants.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 I made a proof of concept.

Speaker 1 They're jeans.

Speaker 6 And I velcroed this eggshell lining, sound editing lining. So I can put it on, and I'll try to fart for you.
And I bet you won't be able to see it. You're going to fart? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't know if I have to or not.

Speaker 7 Let me just tell you, if you just did like a gag fart insert for like kids to give, you know, or parents to give to their kids or vice versa, to put in your pants that just hooked on like the inside.

Speaker 6 Like a fart machine.

Speaker 7 No, no, like a fart

Speaker 7 dollar, right? Or a fart killer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 So I've got the eggshell. You can't even tell that I'm wearing it.

Speaker 7 It does wonders for your ass, right?

Speaker 6 It does. And it's just that these jeans were the only ones I had.
It's not that

Speaker 6 they don't have to be Jinkos, but it helps.

Speaker 1 Wait, you got to do it in the mic, dude. Okay.
Oh, you're going to squeeze one out and share.

Speaker 1 Did you hear it?

Speaker 1 A little. Oh, he doesn't have his headphones on.
Oh. It was very, it was silenced.
He didn't hear it. It was silenced.

Speaker 6 There was a little pop. I noticed a little pop.

Speaker 7 So you can call them SBD jeans?

Speaker 6 SBD jeans. So this is the basic concept.
Maybe we can just stick to the bad week because it seems like you were much more enthusiastic about that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but you know what? Just as a gag gift to do like fart killer inserts for your, you know, your dad's jeans to get them as a Christmas gift

Speaker 1 birthday you start there and then people would be like oh these actually work there you go it would be like in that in the in the gag seat such as Spencer's gifts yeah two for two there you go I'm like beautiful

Speaker 1 you say no to the funhouse mirrors yeah I'm saying no to the funhouse the only one I had was I just I think they should have an option when you go out to dinner when you're deciding you know that moment when you want to eat past full right that you could get an oversized sweatshirt with your order the one tiny mint moment yeah right remember that from money python yeah yeah i copied another thing.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. The one tiny mint.
But yeah, you should just be offered an extra large sweatshirt with the restaurant's name on it. Right.
Because then you get branding. Nothing.

Speaker 1 And now you can keep eating. So we all win.
And you get a free sweatshirt.

Speaker 7 But you're going to be the one guy. Hey, he's got the stuff himself t-shirt on or the stuff himself stuff.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 6 But that's almost like a thing of respect. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You see the guy who's stuffed. You're like, it should actually be.

Speaker 6 This man knows how to eat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should say clean plate club. Yeah, or there you go.
Gourmand.

Speaker 6 Yeah, not buying it. Gourmand is just a sweet way to be like, I love eating food all the time.

Speaker 1 I can't stand it. Who doesn't, though? So I think you're just going to buy.
So how much money are you going to give us now for all these ideas? Think about it.

Speaker 7 I'll think about it. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Mark Cuban, watch Shark Tank tonight

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Speaker 1 Let's finish up with Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 5 I just had a brutal flight experience

Speaker 5 I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 I did. I sat in the middle, and it was just, we sat in the tarmac for like 20 minutes.
And then we were landing in New York. We were early, so we had to do a couple loops.

Speaker 1 It was really, really tough. That is

Speaker 5 thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 5 But besides that, I have multiple Fire Fests. If that's all right.
Yes, sure.

Speaker 1 Go Go off, Kay.

Speaker 5 And Jake Mannsplained

Speaker 5 sports broadcasting to me last night. Nice.
And dunked on me on the timeline.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 5 I feel like it's like a round. It wasn't the intention.

Speaker 1 I was very excited about the call. Can we get the exchange?

Speaker 5 It's around the year anniversary of

Speaker 5 Best in the Office, Best One Here. And I was having nightmares last night thinking.

Speaker 1 What was the call? Yeah.

Speaker 5 In the Providence game,

Speaker 5 they hit a deep three in triple overtime, kind of a dagger three.

Speaker 1 The announcer said, from Pawtucket. Yep.
Because it was deep.

Speaker 5 And all I tweeted was, all caps, from Pawtucket is an absolute bar. Like, it was a great, it was a great line, great reference, you know, Providence, whatever.
Jake replied to me and said,

Speaker 5 he hit that one from Insert Nearby City on a deep three is a popular call, but it plays, especially in a moment like this.

Speaker 1 Jake. It wasn't.

Speaker 3 Okay, I understand why he feels that way, and he has the right to. It was not.
I was just very excited about that.

Speaker 1 Thank you for giving me the right.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 3 Plus, there's a new house guy, so it always Andrew Callahan makes it exciting.

Speaker 1 Was it geographically correct? I think you're actually more the guy to ask. No, no, I'm saying the orientation of the arena and where he shot it.
Oh, it was a deep three.

Speaker 1 No, but where, like, if he's shooting west.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if he's shooting south and Pawtucket is east, that was wrong. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm going to look at it real quick. Let's see.
I'm going to

Speaker 1 figure this out. Well, I'm going to look where the Dunkin' Donuts...
Well, shit, I don't know which side he was shooting on.

Speaker 3 He's on the right side of the court, I believe.

Speaker 1 The right side of the court?

Speaker 3 From the broadcast view, it doesn't really mean much.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tap out for a second. Just try to do some

Speaker 1 chair.

Speaker 1 This is though I had no chance. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. What's your other ones?

Speaker 5 That was it.

Speaker 1 I thought you said a multiple. Well, the plane.
Oh, yeah. The plane.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that was a tough one. Yeah.
How many laps did you have to do?

Speaker 5 Like three. Like the estimated time of arrival was like five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, five minutes.

Speaker 5 It was really hard. Traveling is just brutal.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT. Wait, can we pause for a second? I want to really try to figure this out real quick.

Speaker 6 Give me two seconds.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 6 Map images.

Speaker 1 And we want to help.

Speaker 6 From Pawtucket.

Speaker 3 I just don't know where in the overhead view of which side it would be on.

Speaker 1 Where's Paw Tucket?

Speaker 7 Paw Tuckett. Where were they playing? Providence.

Speaker 1 Providence. Okay, let's see.
So Pawtucket.

Speaker 1 All right, so it's kind of.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, no, we could see.

Speaker 1 Wait, is Paw Tuckett straight north?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 No matter what, he didn't get it. Right.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Wrong.

Speaker 1 He got it wrong. Straight up.
Because if you look at the orientation of the Dunkin' Donuts arena, Paw Tuckett would be like a corner three.

Speaker 1 So he was wrong.

Speaker 6 Now, is that the same thing as a correct?

Speaker 6 Wait, wait, Big Guy, is that the same thing as the Schneider Arena?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's called the Dunkin' Donuts Center.

Speaker 6 Well, because... It's the dunk.

Speaker 1 It's the dunk. It's the dunk?

Speaker 6 Because it says that Providence plays at the Schneider Arena.

Speaker 1 No, they play at the Dunkin' Donuts.

Speaker 3 Well, they have a smaller facility, too. I don't think they play every game.

Speaker 1 They play at the dunk.

Speaker 6 Okay, just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 1 He had to have said North Providence or East Providence to be correct. That doesn't hit the same.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just telling you that's just a cool name.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you, if you wanted to actually do this correctly, like I would absolutely, if I were a broadcaster, I'd be like, all right, where is, which way are we facing? And which makes sense?

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's why Marv started to save from downtown.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 Because he would do it when they were oriented in that direction where downtown would actually be where the three-pointer was coming from. Yes.
That's why he's one of the goats. Yes.

Speaker 6 Separate the art from the artist.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your

Speaker 6 firefest. My firefest is that people are starting to ask a lot of questions about Alexander Ovechkin.

Speaker 1 My goat. Why?

Speaker 6 I don't know. The media's got a hard-on for him.
It's depressing seeing them attack my sweet boy.

Speaker 1 Well, let me ask you a question. Did he ever, he never had a website being like, vote for Putin.

Speaker 6 Well, the entire relationship with Ovechkin and Putin, it's like us and Josh Allen. Yeah, he built a website for him, but he's responsible for every single thing that he does.

Speaker 6 Actually, yeah, we do take a lot of credit. We

Speaker 6 tried to get money from Josh Allen's contract.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm at the point where, I don't know,

Speaker 6 I'm struggling mightily to find a spin zone for this.

Speaker 1 I don't. Can I give you a spin zone on the spin zone?

Speaker 6 What I've got is I don't think I have to have a spin zone for this. That's correct.
Because he's Alex Ovechkin and I'm me. Correct.
And so.

Speaker 1 You don't have to say,

Speaker 1 because I root for this guy, I like also agree with everything he's ever said, ever.

Speaker 6 Well, of course not. Of course, that's not the case.

Speaker 1 But you're also not saying Alex Ovechkin. It's kind of like.

Speaker 6 But Loki, Alex Ovechkin has been so open about being a spy for his entire career while he's in D.C. that he's not even really a spy.

Speaker 6 He's just been like, yeah, I'm pretty much, I am agent of federal government of Russia.

Speaker 6 So you can't really bust him for spying on anything because he's like, he did that commercial for Sports Center where he dropped through the roof and pretended to be a Russian spy the whole time being like, I am spy.

Speaker 1 It's not the same, but it's similar in the fact when Big Ben retired and we're like, you know how you don't have to say as good of a football player he was, he's even better guy.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't have to say it. You just be like, he was really good at football.

Speaker 6 yeah alex soveshkin really good at hockey so i'm going to the game tonight which is going to be an interesting one because it is it's the caps rangers the rangers have pannerin on their team whose entire family was evacuated from russia because he took an anti-putin stance he i think he missed like 10 games um they were like keeping him safe and then there's Ovi and added on top of all that is the two teams hate each other going back to the Tom Wilson thing of last year and they even went out and got Reeves just to stand up to wilson but now there's like a geopolitical rivalry backdrop in it um just want to say i disavow i disavow putin ovi billy brought up a good point about ovi earlier which was he's just

Speaker 6 Alexander Vechkin was raised from a child being an elite athlete in Russia. So he was just like raised by the state, essentially.
He had everything given to him and they support everything.

Speaker 1 But you're doing the thing you didn't have to do.

Speaker 6 No, I'm just saying he's been

Speaker 6 indoctrinated. Right.
You don't have to. A Vetchkin is a victim in this.
You don't.

Speaker 1 Nope. See? Ovechkin is a victim.
That's what it is. Then people have to do it.

Speaker 6 Alexander Ovechkin is the victim in all this.

Speaker 1 Now you open yourself up. We should all be able to do that.
Now people can respond to you and be like, you're an asshole.

Speaker 6 I'm obviously joking about that last part. But yeah, I'm just not

Speaker 6 going to address it.

Speaker 1 How about that? There you go. You did a good job not addressing it.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 But you have to admit, like, he,

Speaker 7 you know, you get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's good at scoring goals. He's very good at what you were going to say.

Speaker 6 He's a great high.

Speaker 6 He's probably the greatest goal scorer of all time.

Speaker 1 Even better person.

Speaker 6 Really good person. Nope.

Speaker 1 See, you don't have to do that part. I showed you what not to do.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Is that it? Do you have any others?

Speaker 6 I mean, that's a pretty big Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're being way too hard on yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, he was trending on Twitter today, and then everyone was like, please comment.

Speaker 1 No. And you see that? You know what?

Speaker 6 No. Those people should read the room.
Correct.

Speaker 1 People being like, please comment for the guy you root for.

Speaker 1 No, thank you. Yep.

Speaker 1 I I will pass on.

Speaker 6 You should read the room. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, my Fire Fest. Uh, I have two.
One is

Speaker 1 on Friday, or no, Wednesday show last week. I actually said this, go watch the behind-the-scenes PM TV, which Bubba's been producing.
It's been great on our YouTube channel. Go subscribe.

Speaker 1 But when we came back from vacation, I explained it to him in the camera. So I'm sure you'll see it there as well.
But PFT was like, if I tweet, respond telling me to get off Twitter.

Speaker 1 I did not say that. So then every time I tweeted when I was on vacation, people were like, dude, get off Twitter.
It was pretty annoying, especially because I'm very clear. I like to watch basketball.

Speaker 1 I like to tweet about basketball. It was hot some days.
So I was sitting watching basketball in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 So yeah, that was annoying. Those people need to listen for voices.
Who's saying what?

Speaker 6 That was me. And I'll say it again.
Listen, that's on me. You come to me with all these complaints.

Speaker 1 Yeah. My vacation is partially being able to watch sports and fire off a few tweets and not have to work after.
Just be able to fire off a few tweets and go to dinner.

Speaker 1 That's actually a great vacation for me.

Speaker 6 You know what it was for me, too? Like, because I... A couple of times I tweet out and people would, sorry, I tapped in real quick and then people would reply to me and be like, log off, touch grass.

Speaker 6 It was good practice for me to just ignore all the replies and be like, you know what? Yeah. I'm choosing to overlook all the people telling me to log off respectfully.
I'm going to tweet even harder.

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 1 And I'll just say it right now. Like, one of the best parts of vacation was

Speaker 1 literally, I watched the entire Wisconsin-Michigan game. Then Juan Howard had anger management problems.
And I went and sat

Speaker 1 at a pool and tweeted and joked about it with people. And that was very fun.
What am I going to read a book?

Speaker 6 Listen, to quote the great, you quoted Dickie V earlier. He's got one great philosophy about Twitter.
My personal favorite philosopher is Kevin Durant. And he says, there's no relax, champ.

Speaker 6 No relax when I'm on Twitter. I'm on 10 until the second I close the app.
That's a fact. You relax.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. And then my other Fire Fest is my son's school closed because of construction permanently.
And I got stuck in a

Speaker 1 WhatsApp thread with a bunch of parents who like wanted to sue. And I just was like, this is not what I, like, being a parent is awesome of your children.

Speaker 1 Having to interact with other parents is the worst.

Speaker 6 So it seems to me like they should probably plan construction around the summer months.

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't, they're a tenant, so it wasn't up to them. Got it.

Speaker 1 And, but there were like people being like, this is essentially a Ponzi scheme that they've closed and they're not giving us a full refund.

Speaker 1 And I was like, it's a fucking preschool that two women run that like, I don't, like, what are we talking about? We're not going to sue someone.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I looked around and I didn't say any of this because I just didn't interact, but it was like one of those moments where it's like, I don't want to be part of this.

Speaker 1 I want to just parent my kids.

Speaker 6 Can I tell you something? I think you should sue. Yeah.
I think you should just sue. Sue crazy.
Sue the absolute fuck out of him. Get in all the papers.
Have big articles written about like.

Speaker 1 Oh, someone said we should go to the press. Yeah, I was like, no, no.

Speaker 6 Like, Jesus Christ. Go to the press and be like, Dan Katz is filing a lawsuit because his son's school is under construction.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It's the old,

Speaker 1 like, the guy who's the guy or the woman who's the head of the condo board. There's their one person in every...

Speaker 6 Homeowners Association.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one person

Speaker 1 in every group that has essentially learned a life hack that they can complain about everything and eventually they'll wear everyone else down. And that person's just the worst.

Speaker 1 But they get away with it because no one's going to be like, hey, dude, stop.

Speaker 1 You just don't want to deal with it.

Speaker 6 Like, I don't care enough to really stand up to you right now.

Speaker 1 It's the person who sends back their food constantly at a dinner. You know what I mean? Or like wants a free thing.
It's like,

Speaker 1 I would rather just eat this steak that's not cooked correctly because I don't really want to complain and look like an asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Call me a pushover, but I feel like I speak for the majority of people in this world.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I ran into a situation like that when we were in the Virgin Islands. I took a taxi and the taxi charged me probably double what they normally charge.
Get out and people are like, hey,

Speaker 6 how much do they charge you? I said, 50 bucks.

Speaker 6 It should have been like 25. I was like, yeah, you know what? In the moment, I knew that I was being ripped off.
But at the same time,

Speaker 6 I didn't care enough about it to be like, make a stink. The guy got me to a beach.

Speaker 6 I was happy to be at that beach. Correct.
I didn't know how I was going to get to that beach earlier in the day. Found a guy in a taxi, took me there.

Speaker 1 I'm happy. Right.
Right. We got 50% of the money back for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 And it's like a difference between a couple thousand dollars that we're going to sue again like two women who don't have jobs anymore because the school closed.

Speaker 1 Like, I think I'm out. I also like

Speaker 6 everybody that gets ripped off thinks it's a Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is literally a Ponzi scheme.
Yeah, literally.

Speaker 6 A school closed down and gave us half a refund. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's what Ponzi schemes do.

Speaker 1 I almost did reply in the inner troll with me, but I decided to hold back that I had seen

Speaker 1 the teachers driving Lambos to school. But I didn't want to do it because

Speaker 1 I read the room, and I was like, people are going to think I'm serious.

Speaker 6 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 6 did you see that article about

Speaker 6 Max Scherzer pulling up to the MLBPA negotiations in like a very nice car? Yeah. That was kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And then someone quote you was great with,

Speaker 1 what's the name of the

Speaker 1 owner of the Mets? Steve Cohen. Steve Cohen.
They're like, Steve Cohen bought this shark that's that's frozen in for Meldehyde for $8 million. Yeah.
It's sitting in his living room. It's sick.

Speaker 6 He's one of those guys that has the yacht with the emotional support yacht that goes along with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the baby boats that come off. Little tiny baby boats.
All right, Billy, you're FireFest.

Speaker 6 I got to go get the barbell and weights that is somewhere in New Jersey. And it's going to take a long time.
So I'm going to have to drive three hours to get it back to the office.

Speaker 1 Who could have seen this one coming? I know. Now it's time to pay the piper.

Speaker 6 In retrospect, do you think it was a good idea to bring the weights along on the trip? Yes. In the ice storm, it was huge for balancing out the weights.

Speaker 1 What about just buying a, you could have bought a pair of dumbbells for like 50 bucks. Dumbbells are expensive.

Speaker 6 Since the pandemic, like home gyms and stuff. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 6 I could only get one of those those adjustable dumbbells. So I've just got one in my house.
Also, everyone's trying to send me to Ukraine, but that's a different story, Jake.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 6 Thanks, Billy. Thank you for your service, Billy.

Speaker 1 You should.

Speaker 1 If you're a man that stands up for what you say you stand up, a lot of people are out there saying I'm the number one draft pick. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I would go, but unfortunately,

Speaker 6 regrettably, I'm too old for military service. I would be the first one in line, though.

Speaker 1 So, Billy, are you going to.

Speaker 1 We would hate to have you leave this podcast, but I think you should for our country. Yeah.
I mean, if everyone's nodding.

Speaker 6 Once Uncle Sam starts popping up in the TikTok feed saying, like, we need you, then it might be time.

Speaker 1 Dude, think about the content. I know.
You should. Think about it.

Speaker 1 We should do it.

Speaker 1 You could still zoom in.

Speaker 6 Could we just send me out there?

Speaker 1 But your Black Rifle will sponsor it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just send me out there to do some reporting. Can I go as press?

Speaker 1 As a press, yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't think that's a good idea because if you went out there as press, you know you. You'd probably be like the first person to like ditch the press uniform and join the fight.

Speaker 6 Just a way to get out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
But yes, you can. I'm giving you the green light to go to Ukraine.

Speaker 6 Sweet.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 You won't?

Speaker 6 He traded all right now. Yeah.
Yeah. On the front line, Ukraine.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 That tweet resurfaced.

Speaker 1 The trade it all? Yeah. Memes retweeted it at 3 a.m.

Speaker 6 listening to Jocko Willink.

Speaker 1 Saturday night tweet. Trade it all.

Speaker 6 I love memes being actually the one that resurfaces stuff on all of us. Yeah.
She's an agent of mass chaos.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I mentioned the Iowa trip yesterday, getting back here.

Speaker 3 It was a crazy travel day. So I won't go through the nitty-gritty,

Speaker 3 but I'll just give you some stats. It would have been a 15-hour drive from Iowa to New York City.
Door-to-door was 16 hours for us. We boarded three planes.

Speaker 1 We took off once. Woo!

Speaker 3 Including a four-hour drive to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was really tough. But slang positive.

Speaker 1 It's best time of year.

Speaker 3 You're back. A lot to be thankful for.

Speaker 1 How'd you watch Saviour Providence on the phone? Oh, while you were in the air?

Speaker 3 We were

Speaker 3 on the tarmac. Okay.
So I had service.

Speaker 6 All right, so you get to watch that. Also, the Midwest is beautiful this time of year.
Yeah, of course. I got to see part of this great country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I... Driving, yeah.

Speaker 3 I didn't want to do the blue check mark between an airlines because every time I see it, I'm like, no one really cares. So like, I care.
Oh, people care.

Speaker 1 People care. You care.
I care. I care.

Speaker 6 Well, Big Cat just likes to still fuck. I actually see things.
And as an empath, when I see somebody that's in pain or suffering, I look at that and I feel the pain probably more than you do.

Speaker 6 It's a curse that I carry. Even texting you guys.

Speaker 3 Travel details. I'm like, do they really care?

Speaker 1 Shout out to me. I'm so kind.

Speaker 6 I'm so kind that it hurts me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're an empath this weekend, you can take a break.

Speaker 6 Only empaths will understand the feeling of being sad for somebody else.

Speaker 1 Big ups to my empaths.

Speaker 1 True ones. Yeah, true ones.
No. We're not making fun of you, Jake.
Don't worry. No, it says that.
I'm kind of lost. Okay, I know.
I can see that on your face.

Speaker 3 But anyway, it's a travel day, but I'm here, and everything's all right.

Speaker 1 All right, well, let's do numbers, and we'll see. What do you got, Billy? One last thing? I got an animal for you.
Oh, okay. All right.
I tell you, he had something else in your throat. 17.

Speaker 1 I got a good sense of when Stella's about to bark and when Billy wants to say something. Oh, yeah.
These are my two things. And I'm like,

Speaker 6 well, it's tricky because sometimes he does the deep breath, but he has nothing to say. I'll just go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a lean. and

Speaker 1 okay. All right,

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 1 Give me 25.

Speaker 6 17.

Speaker 1 69.

Speaker 6 No, no, not 17.

Speaker 1 I think Hank just took that.

Speaker 6 We're due for 69. Hank did.
I'm going to go 90. You can join.
Six.

Speaker 6 I'll get my own number. Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 1 I really fucked up with the Tyree Kill pick. I really hate myself.

Speaker 1 42. 42.

Speaker 1 Jackie Robinson. Yeah.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 6 Sunflowers are the official flower of the country of Ukraine. Love you guys.
Oh, I saw this badge. That's

Speaker 6 it.

Speaker 6 That's a flower for me. Well, flowers, I mean, it's flora.
No. It's biomass.

Speaker 5 You're going soft on us?

Speaker 6 Doing a little flower. I think he's standing up for Ukraine, not the Ukraine, by the way.

Speaker 6 But yeah, that lady today that was like. All right,

Speaker 6 Say after me.

Speaker 6 I don't know what

Speaker 6 to say. I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 6 Today's another day to find you shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Come on,

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 There you go. That was fantastic.