Week 8 NFL Recap Of Every Game And Fastest 2 Minutes

Week 8 NFL Recap Of Every Game And Fastest 2 Minutes

November 01, 2021 2h 7m Explicit

We start with Fastest 2 minutes for Week 8 and then transition into recapping every game from Sunday.  (00:02:25 - 00:07:39) Cowboys/Vikings (00:08:46 - 00:14:45) Steelers/Browns ( 00:14:45 - 00:28:39 ) Jets/Bengals (00:28:39 - 00:40:59) Titans/Colts (00:40:59 - 00:50:44) 49ers/Bears (00:50:44 - 00:57:08) Panthers/Falcons (00:57:08 - 00:58:59) Eagles/Lions (00:58:59 - 01:07:05) Bills/Dolphins (01:07:05 - 01:13:16) Rams/Texans (01:13:16 - 01:36:16 Patriots/Chargers ( 01:16:16 - 01:25:03 Jaguars/Seahawks ( 01:25:03- 01:33:47) WFT/Broncos (01:33:47- 01:42:29) Bucs/Saints  (01:42:29 We finish with Football guy of the week and who's back of the week.


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On today's part of my take, we have football. Week 8 in the NFL.
A lot of great games, a lot of great action. We have the fastest two minutes.
We're going to break down every single game from Sunday. We're going to maybe talk a little world series sorry for everyone out there who doesn't like baseball but yeah we're going to talk a little world series football guy of the week and then we're going to do who's back of the week and send you on your way to the month of november ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has a has Ariat.
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to part of my take presented by coors light coors light.com slash take go there right now today is monday november 1st week eight what what what we start in western new york where big gaby davis cried his way into the end zone to give the Bills a lead in the third quarter. Tua Agro-Kragri-Vola was playing with guts.
Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, you have it, guts. Jalen Waddle, baby, Waddle, baby, Waddle, baby.
Waddle was trying to back it up, but the Bills gobbled, baby, gobbled, baby, gobbled, baby, gobbled it up. And the Dolphins lose again.
And no one circles the wagon like the Buffalo Bills. Bills, 26, Dolphins, 11.
I feel a little drunk, Teej. Little of those duh-duh-duhs, you know, in Canada.
Give you that nice pop. Yeah, that pop.
And a spooky showdown in Cleveland, Odell Beckham is going to have the monster rash for all the shit he's going to be taking. Pat Airfryer-Muth reheated the Pittsburgh offense after Chris Boswell, New Mexico, crash-landed and letting an unidentified flying object loose, only to disappear for the rest of the game.
Caleb Presley-Horvin looked like he had one too many ice cream sundae conversations to be kicking the ball effectively. And the Steelers are back on track with TJ Watt and the steel curtain leading the way.
The Steelers, 15. The Browns, 10.
In Indianapolis, where Michael Myers Pittman and Jack O'Lantern Doyle carved the Titans' defense early, Derek O'Henry didn't earn his hundred grand, but was able to help the Titans late. Looks like his bout of food poisoning is over as AJ is no longer brown with the sickness.
And after a wild last minute of regulation, I ate too much candy, Bullock, sends the Titans home with a win. Titans, 34.
The Colts, 31. What? What? What? Mike Barry White had the Meadowlands singing You're the one that I need while throwing for 400 yards for the first time since V-V-V-V-V-Venny and the Jets.
Joe Twixson and Jamar's bar chase trick-or-treated for three touchdowns. Tyler Lara Croft dressed up as the Tomb Raider and robbed the Bengals of thinking they're for real with a late touchdown.

Don't make friends with Salah, but

you can win a big game now and again

as the Jets beat the Cinnamon Sinati

Bengals. 31

to more than 31.

I forgot to write the score there.

34!

34! I just checked my

stats sheet. 34 to 31.
Breaking news. The Jets win 34-31.
Huh? In the windy city where Jimmy Hoffa Garoppolo came back from the dead to lead the Irishman Kyle Shanahan to a huge win. Chris Tabor Metrics was coaching the Bears in the absence of Matt Nagy, who we hope takes as much time as he needs to recover from COVID.
Your health comes first, Bill. Yes, absolutely.
Khalil Herbert Hoover can't get the Bears out of the Great Depression as Chicago fans turn to Roosevelt to get out of town. Elijah Mitchell Trubisky was the MVP at Soldier Field on Sunday, and that hurts, Tej.
It really, really hurts. Niners 33, Bears 22.
And sticking in the NFC Norris, where a Boston Harbor Scott had a TD party, crying Jordan Howard said, the ends justify the memes, as he scored twice. The game was well out of hand when the Eagles poured it on as Darius scooped up a fumble and he could go all the slay with a scoop and score.
What?

Lions fans, if you're thinking about Jared Goff and yourself,

don't David Blow your brains out just yet.

Things can always get worse.

The Eagles 44, the Lions 6.

Down in Houston where Alexandra Cooper Cup made the Texans call him daddy,

dropping the voodoo clam on their face.

Houston tried to give the Rams some Rex Burkhead, but they ended up gluck-glucking themselves to death because, man, do they suck. Lawsuit man Deshaun Watson is technically still on the team as the franchise waits in limbo for a trade.
Rams 38, Texans 22. And we go out west to Los Angeles where Justin Pervert was leaving too many balls exposed.
Speaking of perverts, Matthew Judon Vito had his eyes looking in every direction on Sunday. Adriana Phillips found the ball like Cosette found warmth under Christopher's ass, talking to the FBI and flipping the field twice.
Jagging little Bill Belichick has one hand in his pocket and the other is wasting a timeout. The Patriots, 27.
The San Diego Superchargers, 24. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola.
Such a sad sight to see. It's the goat, my lord, and his knee feels sore.
Dancing with an injury. But Simeon's well.
Takes some hills and ends out. Can we get Jameis Winston's knee.
Some freaking stem cells. The Saints go marching in a huge win.
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Fuck Kirk Cousins. We are idiots on this podcast because we all bet on Kirk Cousins tonight.
Why? Never again. Why? We try we try to be nice sometimes big cat because it feels like we do go out of our way to bash kirk cousins which hand up i'm extremely guilty of it turns out for good reason we were right to bash kirk cousins i just and it's more credit to the cowboys because with dak prescott out we saw what it looked like last year it wasn't this this year Cooper Rush was more than capable of like keeping that offense going I just and and and a lot of people are saying it's Mike Zimmer and you know I get the the usual uh clap back which I'm sure you get as well PFT where it's like well you would take Kirk Cousins on the Bears like well first of all no I don't want him on the Bears but, it's not a rule that just because the Bears don't have quarterbacks, I can't criticize other quarterbacks.
Kirk Cousins, he just loves to check the ball down. And I know people are going to say, it's Mike Zimmer, it's this, it's that.
I just don't get it. I don't get it.
I watch them, it's so frustrating. What were they, 1-for-13 on third down tonight.
That has to be on the quarterback at some point. It's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad when you're at 1-for-13 levels, and I have had him on my team. And trust me, this is why I'm telling you, you don't want him on your team.
I dealt with it for a while. I don't want him back, especially now when he's making so much money.
You're actually spending so much money on Kirk Cousins that it is making the rest of your team actively worse. And Mike Zimmer has had problems, and the Vikings should have won that game.
They should have found a way to win that game. And so it's not all on Kirk Cousins.
I'm just frustrated with Kirk Cousins because when I'm watching them, and they have 40 seconds left and no timeouts, and he's checking it down and checking it down, it's like, dude, what the fuck is going on? That's the best way to put it. He's not a bad quarterback, but he is one of the most frustrating quarterbacks because he shows you how good he can be at times.
Correct. And then he just reverts back to being completely Kirk Cousins.
We should give the Cowboys credit. I think what tonight proved is that the Cowboys are good enough to overcome an injury to anyone on the team, except for maybe Kellen Moore.
They're really fucking good really good and like that was a that that's a game that like you bring in your backup he's he's a ginger g-word gonna say it we all were thinking it you're thinking like who is this guy cooper rush i know him from action fire up chips and they they were the better team they were the better team and i i do think mike zimmer lost a little bit of his shine, and people are very frustrated with him, and I understand why, because it does feel like the Vikings, like, between Dalvin Cook, Justin Jefferson, and Adam Thielen, you look at the Vikings team, you're like, they should be good. They should score more than 16 points.
Yeah. I do like Cooper Rush, though.
Turns out that I think just the name Cooper Rush, it implies good backup quarterback. Yes.
That's a perfect backup quarterback name. It's like this guy is good enough to throw for three touchdowns one time a year and then bad enough to throw for four interceptions in another game.
Yes. Cooper Rush is a great backup quarterback name.
Another fun stat about him is the Cooper Rush to Amari Cooper touchdown, the first in NFL history where the passer's first name and receiver's last name are an exact match. That's weird because I would have thought there would have been Name a Gami! Let's go.
You didn't get your Gami earlier. I'm sorry about that.
But I would have thought that there would have been a Michael. Maybe Christine Michael.
Could have had a touchdown. I don't know.
There's nobody with a last name Matt, so that takes out like three quarters of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Yeah.
But yeah, weird stat. I do.
Here's a weird stat. You know what? Kirk Cousins is 8-17 in primetime games for his career.
That's weird. That's a very weird stat.
I can't believe I've been on the Vikings. It's so fucking stupid.
I have a prediction. Yeah? I think tomorrow we're going to find out that this was a watermelon game.
That's the only thing I can think of how we got this so wrong. Yeah.
I mean, we just got it wrong because we watched the Cowboys without Dak last year and it was a disaster and Cooper Rush is good. Like, he was more than competent tonight.
They moved the ball well. I don't know.
Bad times. I'm falling apart.
Also, the Braves lost. That sucked.
I was thinking the Braves were going to win the World Series tonight. We were going to celebrate that.
So, Tuesday night. Let's go, Braves.
Congratulations to the Braves for winning the World Series on Tuesday night. That's first reported by part of my team.
There we go. Let's go, Braves..
This will be so tragic. You want to do the intro? Let's just do the intro for Tuesday now.
Thank you. Hey, save it.
Don't put this on Monday's show. Put this on Wednesday's show.
Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by Coors Light. Today is Wednesday, November 3rd, and the Atlanta Braves are World Series champions.
Let's go, Braves! Woo! Chomp, chomp. Love it.
Love it. Congratulations to the city of Atlanta.
It's been a long wait for you guys. I'm rooting for them very, very hard.
I can think of no franchise more deserving. I want the Braves to win, too.
They deserve this, Braves. You're a fun team.
Well, they got it. Anyone but their asses.
They want it. Yeah, enjoy it.
They want it. Enjoy it.
Enjoy it. Have fun.
Go crazy. You didn't want to win that on Sunday night anyways.
You don't want to take a Monday off from work. The celebration was crazy.
Everyone's talking about football, not talking about the Braves. Win it on Tuesday.
Win it on Tuesday. We talk about it on Wednesday.
You get a full calendar day of celebrating your victory, your world champions. We lead the show with it.
Absolutely off the top of the show. And then you can get drunk on Tuesday night and take a Wednesday off work, which is way cooler than taking a Monday off, and then guess what? The calendar

lines up. Well, you're taking this, you're listening to this on Wednesday.

Well, you have to go off because that's on the day off.

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to celebrate your Atlanta Braves World Series Championship.

And then guess what? The calendar lines up

where now you get to have the World Series parade on a weekend. Yeah.
So everyone can go. Let's go Atlanta.
They're going to do it. They'll be fine.
Okay. Let's get to the rest of Sunday's slate.
We're going to start with Steelers, Browns. Steelers, 15.
Browns, 10. I feel very bad for Browns fans.
Okay. I'm going to start with that because the two teams, as we thought this season, the Browns were trending up, the Steelers were trending down, and then Ben Roethlisberger comes in your backyard, and maybe not a throwback performance because he wasn't lighting the world on fire, but he did just enough, including the slowest two-point conversion

that never counted, which I loved.

They actually called it QB draw for Ben Roethlisberger.

But if you're a Browns fan, this is the year that you were supposed to –

like you did it last year in the playoffs,

and this is the year you're supposed to be able to beat the Steelers

and not have to worry about the Steelers, and you're on to bigger things.

And, oh, yeah, they come here, and then they kick your ass ass and they shut down your run game and their defense wins the day and the Steelers go and win a big game in Cleveland. Yeah, it was tough.
It's tough if you're a Cleveland Browns fan right now because you definitely thought like four weeks ago, you saw this game and you're like, we're going to win this game on Halloween. I'm going to get dressed up in my favorite Cleveland costume.
I'm going to go to first energy and we're going to get drunk as fuck and stomp the Steelers by 40 points. We're going to drink out of a pumpkin in the Muni lot.
We're going to smash some shit. We're going to have an awesome time.
Baker Mayfield's going to be great. The running game's going to be great, and then none of that happens.
You got pre-drunk when you saw the Steelers game on the schedule once they started stinking like shit, and you started pre-gaming back at the beginning of October in preparation for this game. And the Steelers, I don't actually think that the Steelers really look good today at all.
Well, their defense looks good. Their defense is good.
T.J. Watt is a main difference.
When T.J. Watt is healthy and he's playing, the defense is very good.
But offensively, they didn't look great. They did just enough.
They did enough to win. You don't apologize for a victory in the National Football League, Big Cat.
They basically, the Steelers, from a Steelers perspective, you're actually, even though it wasn't pretty, I don't think they're built to win pretty games at this point, but Najee Harris looks awesome. Their offensive line's starting to look better.
And Big Ben, you're like, okay, he is what we have. I think you're happy just the fact that Big Ben carried out that quarterback draw.
Yes. Because in your mind, you're probably like, well, Big Ben doesn't want to run the ball up the middle.
He doesn't want to play action, much less keep the ball for himself. So Big Ben definitely, he conserves his energy.
Yes. We'll put it that way.
He's very mindful. He knows that he's only got a set amount of battery left in his human body that he can expend.
So he's taking every chance that he can to just kind of, he takes it easy back there sometimes. But the fact he was willing to do the slowest quarterback sneak, quarterback draw, like the old man in Squid Game doing red light, green light.
It was incredible. That's what he looked like diving forward.
And he made it, which was great. But it was a hold.
It was so, so much fun to watch. It was nice to watch.
And, I mean, the all-time head-scratching moment was Mike Tomlin's field goal. Yes.
The fake field goal. Maybe weirder, the fact that he set it up by running the ball on third and 17.
Yep. And then he was going to fake a field goal.
And Chris Boswell almost died. Chris Boswell got lit up.
I thought we were protecting quarterbacks in this league. I don't know.
It looked like helmet-to-helmet contact with me. But this is one where you're like, maybe it's not a good idea that the Steelers treat their coaches so well and make them know that their job security is second only to Supreme Court justices because a normal coach who actually a normal coach would never call that play because they're like, this is the kind of play that could get me fired if we lose this game.
It was an incredible call because it was like we it was one of those it's never a good thing when a fake gets called and your instant reaction is was the snap bad because there's no way that was actually the call there but no it was the call there chris boswell got lit up he actually posted on instagram that he decided to go to as a quarterback for halloween and he's okay. But it also then created like a hilarious set of circumstances for them where Presley Harvin, their punter, who is six feet tall, 255 pounds, and there's no way he's 255 pounds.
He's like 270 pounds. His face, when he realized that he was going to have to kick, that was such a relatable like, oh, I I shouldn't have had the donuts this morning.
I should have done a few more push-ups in my hotel room. I should have maybe not gotten late-night Taco Bell on Thursday night.
Like, he was like, uh-oh, this is me now. And his kickoff, I still don't understand how a punter who has an incredible leg, who has a unique skill set, then kicks the ball off.
He kicked it like 30 yards straight out of bounds. It was bad.
It was very bad. And they didn't try a field goal the rest of the game or an extra point because they're like, this guy, he can't do this.
Yeah, we're just not going to kick at all. And yeah, you're right.
A punter, it is a different skill set. You're not always going to be great at kicking a ball, but you should still be able to kick a football more than 30 yards off of a tee.
That's a pretty easy thing to do. And when he was warming up, I was sitting next to Jeff D.
Lowe in the corner watching this game, and it looked like when he was doing practice kicks on the net that they have on the sideline, it looked like he was just going to whiff on some of them. Very, very uncomfortable.
So from that point forward, the Steelers were just like, okay, we don't have a kicker right now. Let's just act like, you know, every single time on fourth down, we're not even going to try a field goal.
Right. And it led to chaos at the end.
It's always so funny when that happens. It's not only that, but then you get the backup holder in the game.
And I don't know who the backup holder on that Steelers team is. Everything falls apart.
Yep. And you just sit there and you're like, what is going on right now?

Also, the fact that you have a punter that's never kicked in college or high school.

They say he never did.

How are you a punter and you never even kicked a field goal or attempted?

It's like playing Frisbee golf as opposed to playing golf growing up.

You mean foot golf?

Yeah, sorry.

I mean club golf.

Club golf.

Ball golf and golf.

Ball golf and golf. If you play ball golf growing up, it doesn't mean that you're a good golf thrower, but it does mean that you should know where a fairway is.
Right. That guy, I felt so bad for him because he's large.
He's larger. I actually kind of appreciate when football players are like, when the special teams units, whether it be a punter or a kicker, and we'll get to Fat Randy, they're like, you know, I'm a football player.
I'm going to look like a football player. I'm going to put on masks like a football player.
I like that too. I would much rather have a fat punter than a jack punter.
Right. I don't trust jack punters at all.
Agreed. Don't trust them.
And we saw another one on the other side, the Scottish Hammer, who still has a job because his nickname is the Scottish Hammer. And he's got an accent, and people like him, and he posts intimidating Instagram workout videos.
You don't want your punter falling into that trap. You want your punter out of shape because the only thing that they do all day is they drop a ball and then they kick it.
Right. You shouldn't be jacked.
If you're jacked when you're a punter, it tells me that you spend way too much time doing things that aren't punting.. Yes, agreed.
But the Steelers, this was a huge, huge win for the Steelers. I don't know where the Browns go from here because they have a million injuries and every team, every fan base will say, well, our team's the most injured.
I think the Browns might have the record for that this year. I think they might be able to claim they're the most injured team.
But it just, I was looking at their schedule. They have to play at the Bengals next.
Then they play at the Patriots, who all of a sudden are all the way back. They get a game against the Lions, which should be a win.
And then the weirdest schedule quirk ever, they play the Ravens. They have a bye week, and then they play the Ravens again.
I love that. It's bizarre.
I like that. These two teams really don't like each other, City.
I think that the Ravens might actually challenge the Browns for the most injured team. That's true.
But they're getting healthy. But that was also preseason, so it doesn't count as much.
They got injured at the right time. Right, exactly.
They got injured in August, which makes it a little bit easier. I have a question about Baker Mayfield, and maybe it's showing my ignorance about the Browns' captain situation because I know last year they didn't have team captains.
Right. Like maybe they said before the game, okay, you're going out and you're calling the coin flip out at midfield.
But why isn't Baker Mayfield a captain of the team? Should we ding him for that? That's a good question. You know what? Who's the captain? I'm in a mood to ding people today.
Wait, who are their captains? I don't know if they have captains. They do it game by game? Yeah, I don't think that anyone gets to wear the C on their chest.
Now, I think, personally, that it is a ding on Baker that he hasn't been named a full-time captain. And listen, we're Baker guys.
Of course. But yeah, I feel bad for Browns fans because it does feel like this was, and I can relate to it because it feels very similar to the Bears, the Bears-Packers feel of, like, oh, we have a team this year that can beat them.
And then you have the big bad Steelers come into your backyard and beat you. And they don't even look good doing it.
That's the worst part. It's not like the Steelers won and, like, ran up the score and was like, hey, we wouldn't have won this game a million different, you know, you played a hundred times, we lose a hundred times.
No, that was a winnable game that the Steelers just did enough. And it's almost like – I know it's very cliche to sound, but I feel like you can just say, oh, that was a Steelers organization win.
They're just consistent. They just win those type of games where it's like they're not that good, they have a lot of holes, but they find a way to win.
That was a culture win for the city of Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin culture win.
Not just the football team. I would say all of Pittsburgh.
Yes. This win belongs to you guys today.
Did you see some of the scenes out of the Muni lot, by the way? Unbelievable. I would imagine that this game, it's on Halloween.
It's against your biggest rival. You think that you've got a great team.
The money spent on the tailgate scene for Cleveland is probably the most money per capita spent on any team this year so far in a loss. Yes.
Like the most money wasted on this. There was one guy that had a giant, I don't know if it was paper mache.
It looked like it was like a glass sculpture, like a Choluli or whatever, like glass blown custom thing, where it was a Pittsburgh Steelers player with a helmet with a giant penis going into his mouth. And they were on two separate sticks so you could take the dick out and then put it back.
The attention to detail was just phenomenal. The insult.
Yeah. The insult detail that they like some guy was sitting in his garage all week being like, I'm going to make this.
We're going to go drink out of this. All year.
And we're going to make fun of the Steelers on Halloween. This was something that he, when the schedule came out, he pre-ordered this for the Halloween game.
And he's like, okay, this is going to be perfect. Okay, I need actually two more veins in the penis if you could.
It was good for Browns fans for sure to have a good time, but it's going to be a tough one to get over. Yeah, very, very tough to get over.
I feel for Browns fans today because their schedule is not easy and when you look at the standings and what's going on in the AFC, the AFC there are some teams that are starting to separate and especially in their own division where the AFC North, actually we haven't done this yet because everyone says the NFC West is the best division. Could it be the AFC North? Could it be? Yeah.
Right now, I think that it has to be. Without Russ and the Niners are below .500, the AFC North has four teams that are all – there's no easy outs.
You know what I mean? There's no team. There's no Jaguars or Jets.
The Jets won today. But there's Lions.
There's no team that you can be like, oh, this team, we'll get a win from them. Yeah, they're all really good.
The Bengals, I would say that the Bengals are still probably the best team in that division. We can talk about them in a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, that's tough to say today. But the convo you have to have is rank the quarterbacks in the AFC North.
Yes. Because I think – You love doing this.
I love it. You love doing this.
I'm going to go – and it changes literally every week. It's like – Number one.
Actually, your favorite thing to say, I picked this up today and I actually love that you do this and I want you to keep doing it. I think you said it like four or five times.
Like Tom Brady gets that call. Yeah, he does.
He does. He said it so many times today.
I was loving it every time. I said it when Boswell got hit.
It plays every time. When he got the helmet to helmet.
Their kicker. I was like, if that kicker was Tom Brady, they would have called that.
Tom Brady gets that call. You just kept on saying it.
I was just like, yeah, you know what? You're right. I am right.
You're right. Because Tom Brady gets every call.
Yeah, so, wait, yeah, ranking the quarterbacks. Okay.
All right, this week, I'm going to go Lamar No. 1.
Okay. On a bye week.
He's healthy. Probably no diarrhea right now.
Yep. No.
2, I'm going to go Ben. I'm going to go Ben.
Recency bias. I like that.
Then three, I'm going Joe Burrow. He still has the potential to get back to number one.
Yep. And then what? I mean, that's our guy, but yep.
Go ahead. And then Baker Mayfield, as of today.
Where's Chris Boswell? Chris Boswell, he's tied with Baker. Neither one are captors.
Remember, all four teams can make the playoffs. Okay, are we doing ranking them right now, or are we doing starting a franchise? Oh, that's a different conversation.
Okay, no, now let's do starting a franchise. All right, Joe Burrow one.
Oh, okay, I'm going to take... I'll take Lamar two.
I'll go Lamar one, Joe Burrow two. What? You don't like it, I think? What's wrong? I think Joe Burrow's going to be a better passer.
I think Lamar's got a better resume. He does, but I think Joe Burrow's going to be a better passer.
But remember, don't forget, Big Cat, Lamar's younger than Joe Burrow.

That's true.

People forget that.

And Lamar's an MVP.

Yeah, he won the MVP.

I know he's a very good quarterback.

Lamar, Joe Burrow, Baker, Boswell, Roethlisberger.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Dwayne Haskins.

Actually, Justin Tucker gets that call, too.

Justin Tucker goes ahead of Big Ben and Boswell.

Yeah.

So, yeah, the NFC North, I don't know why.

It's just everyone loves to...

I think it's just the fan bases because you have the guy who's old, who's won two Super

Bowls, and then the other three kind of are rotating up-and-comers that you can basically

dunk on Ben with.

I would say the AFC North is the most entertaining division to observe as an outsider. Yes.
With all the different rivalries that they have going back and forth and the different players and the up-and-coming Bengals, they're a fun division to just look at. Yes, absolutely.
Good colors, good rivalries. Yeah, good history.
All right, let's stay with the NFC North. AFC.
AFC North, good call. AFC North.
And Billy, your Jets, 34-31. The Jets win the shocker of the day, I would say, as 11-point underdogs.
Mike White, is there a quarterback controversy in New York? Because Mike White, just let me throw out his stats. He did throw a couple interceptions.
They were tip balls, which is unfair because Zach Wilson, if he throws them and they're tipped, we're just like, oh yeah, that was a Zach Wilson, Mr. INT.
Either way, Mike White, 37 for 45, 405 yards, three touchdowns, first quarterback for the Jets to throw for 400 or more yards since Vinny Testaverde. Also first quarterback, other than Cam Newton, since 1950 to throw 400 yards in his first start in the NFL.
Which is crazy to think that it's been 20 years in this NFL. And what they've done in the passing game, it's been 20 years since a team has thrown for 400 yards.
But Mike White, I don't think it's like a Wally Pipps situation. It'd be fun to talk about and let's have the conversation.
But I think that this will be known as the Mike White game. Here's all I'll say.
Zach Wilson's obviously the future. Mike White is a present.
The Jets' wide receivers had an incredible game. They were making catches left and right for Mike White.
Maybe he's got the ear in the room a little bit more? I don't know. Based on Zach Wilson's mom, you would think that they'd be catching everything from him.
Yes, with the see-through masks. But Billy, go off.
Mike White. We gave you a lot to think about.
Mike White, is he the future? He is the present. Zach Wilson is the future.
What I think is going to happen is now that they have more tape on Mike White, I think he's not going to have as easy of a time to do what he did today but i think today was a great example of what the jets could be consistently going forward with mike white with a competent quarterback at the helm because the defense was amazing and the offense was able to stop yeah keep the defense on the field for a good amount of time as opposed to like being on field for most of the time in the other games. But, Billy, if your quarterback goes out there, throws for 400 yards, how many touchdowns? 400 yards, three touchdowns.
Three touchdowns, 400 yards, and you win, how are you going to change horses? Everything's working right now. Zach Wilson's out for a while.
I think if Mike White played for the rest of the season, started every game, that'd be huge.

And it would give time for Zach Wilson to sort of learn and become a good quarterback.

What we say is the Patrick Mahomes model.

Yeah, Patrick Mahomes.

And then he turns into Patrick Mahomes.

Because, realistically, he should have never been starting the first game anyway.

They were trying to sell jerseys.

They were trying to get people interested in the team. It should have been Mike White.
Well, it should have been a veteran quarterback. Joe Flacco.
Just ease him in. And that's why we got those crazy games where Zach Wilson just totally got exposed.
I think it's funny, though, that the Jets kind of played to the level of their opponent, but in the reverse way. Like, if they're playing a really good team at home, they can beat them.
Yeah until today, going into today, in fact going into this afternoon, the Jets were the only AFC East team to beat an opponent that had a winning record. Wow.
Until the Patriots did it against the Chargers. And they beat two of them.
They're 2-0, yeah. So but Zach Wilson had a much more conservative play-calling style when he was under-centered.
Today they just opened it all up. They really...

The play-calling was much more aggressive this week.

Mike White might be the guy.

He's the present and the future. Hank's walking out.

Hank hurt his back very badly.

Actually, the way Hank put it

was he got his back blown out.

He came in and said that. I don't know where he's

going right now, but I'm nervous about him because he might not

be able to get back in here. So, Billy,

so the Jets, that

was an awesome win for the Jets. It was awesome.
Huge.

It was also... We could chalk this up to the old any given Sunday because it was a true letdown spot for the Bengals.
We talked about it last week. The Bengals had their biggest win probably in franchise history in the last five years, maybe 10 years.
It's been a long, probably since Andy Dalton 12-4 year. It was that big of a win against the Ravens.
Then they go to the Meadowlands, think they can kind of come out there and roll over them. Now, the Bengals did get screwed.
That unnecessary roughness call was bullshit. They got boned.
That was a Pac-Man Jones reputation call. That was bullshit.
Because where do you aim if you're that cornerback? You can't aim any lower than his head was. He got ducked into.
And it decided the end of the game because they had a stop at 3rd and 11 and they would have gotten the ball back. But with that said, if you're the Bengals and you want to be considered a bona fide good team that's going into the playoffs and maybe competing for things, you shouldn't even be in that situation with the team against the Jets.
Right? Yep. If you're a Beng Bengals fan I think you can complain for like two minutes and then you have to snap out of it and be like, no, we were in this fucking game with the Jets.
We should have killed them. We're way better than the Jets.
And perhaps we were a little bit too quick to anoint the Cincinnati Bengals. Maybe we forgot that they're literally the Cincinnati Bengals.
I'll never apologize for knee-jerk reactions. I'm sure we're doing it again this week.
Somebody let us know. Listen to this show and let us know which team we're Bengals-ing this week because I'm sure that will very quickly anoint some.
It's probably going to be the Patriots. Yeah, no, it will be.
And that's, you know, people like you overreact. Listen, if you want a measured take where everyone's like, hey, everyone's kind of good and some teams are kind of really good and some teams are kind of bad, like.
We're never going to do that. I'm going to tell you teams stink.
I'm going to tell you teams are awesome. The Bengals stink.
The Jets are awesome. Based on this day.
Let's also clap it up for the Jets. They scored a touchdown in the first quarter.
Not only did they score a touchdown, Mike White went 7-for-7 on his first drive in the first quarter. He went 14-for-14 if you count the two interceptions that he threw to.

Okay, that counts.

The ball didn't touch the ground.

Those are our stats.

In the New York special.

They were the two-point conversion play.

The New York special.

Oh, that's what you're calling it?

You should call it.

Just call it the Billy special.

Yeah.

That's good.

It's mine.

Yeah, it is.

The Billy's a Billy Billy.

We also get Mike White in primetime on Thursday night at Indiana.

Oh, wow. That's why I'm going to bet against Mike White in the Jets after that.
Jets, Colts, Thursday night. All right.
All the haters out there that said that the NFL was dead. Suck my dick.
We get Mike White in primetime. We're coming for you.
Fuck you. Yes.
You know who's the real loser in all this? Who? Joe Flacco. Yes.
Although, does he really want to play? Does the check clear?

Because I think he's doing okay.

It's actually amazing that Joe Flacco is staying around as a backup quarterback.

He must have another kid on the way that we don't know about because he's made so much money.

I think he's made, what, like $150 million?

So much money. Why is he a backup?

If it were me, I would buy a house and a shitload of animals and just go out there and stare wistfully off into the sunset every day. I'll tell you what it is.
He misses the guys in the locker room. Yeah, he likes to be around.
You've got to be around the guys in the locker room. I actually think if you can hang on, I never understand why quarterbacks retire, why they don't just be like, I'll be a backup for the next 10 years, because it would be awesome.
Just be a professional athlete. I think being a backup quarterback is the best job there is.
Yeah, it would be so much fun. I can hold the fuck out of the clipboard.
It's not that hard. Every now and then that you might come in.
But Mike White made himself some money today. As long as Mike White should.
We've talked about this many times on this podcast. If Mike White was smart, he would go out on Thursday night.
He'd get injured on the first play. And then he's Mike White.
Oh, God, what's Mike White? Could Mike White be the guy? Forever. And it needs to be an injury where it's not involving his throwing arm or his knee.
Right. So go out there and, I don't know, say that you've got the Baker Mayfield.
Yes. You're off-shoulders dislocated.
Yes. And then you go in the off-season for cleanup, and then boom, six months later, you're getting paid, I don't know, $20 million guaranteed somewhere.
Done. He's a free agent after this year.
I could see him starting for the rest of the games. Zach Wilson stays on.
They trade him in the offseason where he gets Zach Wilson. He trade a free agent? I mean, not trade him, but he signs somewhere else.
That would be awesome. That would be next level.
That's Belichick style. Just be like, we're going to trade you, dude.
How you doing, Hank? Hank just came back in. Hank's a warrior.
Hank is a warrior. I've had back pain like Hank before.
I got my back blown out twice. And yeah, it's not fun.
Speaking of getting your back blown out, you see Kim Kardashian's dating Pete Davidson? Yeah, that's going to be a very healthy relationship. He's the ultimate rebound guy, I think.
Yeah, that's going to be a healthy, healthy relationship. If you want to piss off whoever you just got done being married to, just have a picture taken in public of you with Pete Davidson.
Yes, yes. But Hank got his back blown out and probably not...
By myself. By himself.
I blew my back out. He blew his back out, putting on his sweatpants.
It's also like, you're, I guess this is just our relationship, but I think I was your first phone call. Where you're the back kid.
You're like, what do I do? Yeah, like, well, I'm not a doctor, but I'll tell you. To be fair, Big Cat, he gives great back advice.
Yeah, I do. I've been through it a lot.
Big Cat fixed my back. Yeah.
Big Cat has been through back problems. You were on my first call.
I did call my mom first, and she said, hey. Call Big Cat.
That would have been funny. She was like, hey, is everything all right? Is it an emergency? I was like, no, I just hurt my back really bad.
She's like, well, I'm at dinner. Can I call you tomorrow? I was like, all right, yep, all right.
She did call me this morning, but she was clearly out and about. So then I was like, all right, well, I'm lying on the floor.
Credit to me. How am I going to be able to get up? You texted me and I FaceTime you.

Yeah.

Because I was like, let's get this fixed.

Let's get this back fixed.

We just kind of glossed over the fact that he hurt his back putting on sweatpants.

You kind of moved on from that pretty quickly, Big Cat.

I know what you did.

Sweatpants are the easiest pant to put on.

I would say...

Listen.

Tearaways, number one.

Sweatpants, two.

Jeans, three.

Corduroy, four.

They were... One leg was slightly inside out.
So, you know know when you put on sweatpants you kind of sometimes do the jump around like jump on one leg while you're while you're pulling it up in fact i did that i did one jump and then the second jump i just i blew my back out yeah i next thing then i was then i was i i was worried my neighbors were gonna like call the cops i was like screaming on the ground and then it's like one of those things where I'm like, I'm by myself. What am I supposed to do here? I'm just screaming in pain.
You're wiggling your way to your phone. I thought I was paralyzed.
I didn't know if I was going to be able to move again. The last two times I've blown my back out.
I was just trying to stand up and then jumped down. I fell.
It was bad. It was a scene.
It was a scene, man. The last two times I blew my back out, one was I was laying in a Chicago alley in the middle of winter just screaming for help because I couldn't move.
And the other time I was laying on my living room floor saying, just shoot me. Just kill me.
It's that bad. It is.
When you fuck yourself up like that, it's very, very bad. And now what kind of mattress do you sleep on? Is it soft or is it firm? a whatever advertiser yeah okay it actually is it's a firm mattress firm yeah okay good brand new don't use the soft stuff soft stuff will fuck you up soft stuff will fuck you up you actually should be sleeping on uh just like a board just sleep in your bathtub like yeah just like a wood a wood plank sleep on the floor start sleeping on the floor that's the way to do it yeah i mean i've just i've had a lot of time for perspective on the couch the past few days yeah you know thinking about golf thinking about being able to be here and just hang out and not it makes you appreciate to lie down yeah it really does it makes you appreciate what you got yeah you don't know what you got till it's gone i'm gonna beat this guys yeah you are i know you will um and if you don't is it can we dr kevork Is that? Was that? What was the final finding on that? Are you allowed to kill someone? I'm of the mindset that if Hank asked me to kill him, I will do it.
I'm just that good of a friend. I'd do it.
I'd kill you. I appreciate that.
I wouldn't let the law get in the way of me murdering Hank if that's what he truly wanted. If I'm not able to golf by spring.
I'd kill you. Yep.
Done. We do it on the podcast for the numbers.
Yeah, for sure. A live execution on the podcast.
It would be like the eyeball stream. If we can hold our YouTube subscriptions at $600, we will kill Hank.
Yeah, we kill this motherfucker. All right.
Well, we feel bad, Hank. So the Jets, congrats, Billy.
Great win. Shocker of the day.
By far the shocker of the day. Big win for Robert Sala.
Robert Sala was pumped at the end of the game. Yes, he was.
I also like the vibe that the New York football teams are doing now where they just suck, but then they just win two or three games out of nowhere. Like, the Jets beating the Titans and the Bengals.
That's so stupid. The fucking Giants beat the Saints.
Well, it's spin zone if you're a Bengals fan. Only good teams lose to the Jets.

Yes.

Yes, that's true.

That's true.

All right.

Next up, let's talk Titans-Colts.

Crazy game.

Carson Wentz.

God damn it.

Right when I got back in it.

Right when I was like, you know what?

This Carson Wentz guy, maybe he is turning it out.

Turning it around.

I was getting gaslit by Colts fans,

people tweeting about how he only has one interception.

He had two of the worst interceptions.

To end the one minute left in regulation,

backed up on his goal line, left-handed pass,

where it was the, like, eternal Carson,

NFT that for Carson Wentz,

because it was the ultimate Carson Wentz, like, I can get myself out of any situation play. Yeah, it kind of was, but recently I've noticed Carson Wentz, he looks desperate when he plays sometimes.
He actually looks like he's going to be killed if he doesn't complete a pass. Correct.
In certain circumstances. And what he ended up doing was he desperated himself into taking maybe the smartest interception.
That was a pick six of all time. This was the spin zone Colts fans were saying.
Because if he had taken the safety, they would have to kick off. They would have to give the ball back to the Titans.
Yep. Game over.
Yep. But since he threw a pick six, it was the best pick six in NFL history.
He did it on purpose. Because they got the ball back and they had a chance to go down the field.
He did it on purpose. It was a genius move by Carson Wentz.

People were actually saying that.

Now, I do blame Frank Reich, and he actually took some blame for it in the postgame.

That it was a terrible play call.

Shouldn't have put him in that situation.

But, my God, dude, sometimes, like, I don't know what it is about him, but he just has

this fearlessness where he's like, I can get myself out of any situation. Well've noticed about carson wins that when he may he looks very athletic when he's running around sometimes he looks like an athlete where if he makes a great play it looks sick as shit yeah and that's why we so we fall so easily back into the oh my god i think carson wins is good trap i think i don't think we've ever been at the same station at the same time correct i think right when you get off it, I get on.
Right when I get off it, you get back on. But he looks really good when he makes an awesome play.
So you're saying you're back on. The problem is, when he makes a bad play like that one, it's like staring into Satan's butthole.
And you're like, I've never seen anything this ugly before in my life. It's terrible.
So I think I'm officially out again 100% on Carson Wentz. So then I have to be back in.
Are you back in, though? Well, I mean, we can't be the same. Don't talk yourself.
Well, no, you know, I'm thinking about it because we just talked about the Jets. The Jets are playing the Colts on Thursday night.
No way the Jets can win that game and then come back. Like, Hungry Dog runs faster.
I'm going to be back at Carson Wentz, and I'm going to hate myself. I think I just choked up saying that.
Yeah. Like, I can't physically take this guy anymore, but here I am.
It's your body revolting against your brain. I would love to, maybe in the off season, we could just do a live cam of Carson Wentz in an escape room and just watch him be like, I got this.
Or maybe we'll give him, we'll simulate... Interview him, but it's an interrogation.
Yeah, like bomb detonation training. Watch Carson Wentz be like, I got this.
And he just blows himself up every time. I don't know if he's always confident, but I think he's just more always very nervous that this is about to be his last play ever.
In his mind, he always thinks he's one play away from getting benched for the rest of his career, and he's got something to prove. And he sees Sam Ellinger looking over his shoulder, and he's like, uh-oh, this guy's good.
And then the interception actually, if you want to take the route of, alright, that interception was actually a good thing because it was a pick six and they got back in the game, they were able to come back with a minute left, that's fine. The interception in overtime was really, really bad.
And Michael Pittman is like a true bonafide number one. He been awesome I don't know that was such a bad interception I don't know how you can explain that one away there was triple coverage it was just blame it on the turf if you're Carson Wentz the turf and Indy looks like it has alopecia it's all patchy that might be a side effect from the sun coming in I know Mr.
Ursa opened up the roof this which was the right play for Jim. But the turf looked just patchy and weird.
It looked like it had some sort of weird skin disease. Yes.
So that's Carson Wentz. And also, credit to the Colts because they've figured out, they've now fully adopted the Joe Flacco offense of like three times a game.
They're just going to throw it deep. Carson Wentz is going to underthrow his receiver.
His receiver is going to try to come back to the ball. Boom, pass interference.
That's how they actually got it to overtime with the pass interference, the end zone. It's a genius strategy, and it works every time.
And I feel like the Colts are, I think, borderline doing it on purpose now. Yeah, they might be.
It's a good call to me. If you have a receiver that's on the same page as your

quarterback and you know that he's going to underthrow it,

the defensive back, they have their back

turned to the ball. They're going to at least get in your

way coming back to the ball, so why not try it more

often? I think that we need

to ding Frank Reich. Can we

put that on? We're dinging him today?

From going away from Jonathan Taylor in the second

half. Because Jonathan Taylor is a beast.
I don't know

if you know this, but he went to the University of from? From? From Wisconsin. From Wisconsin.
Yep. If you want a beast in the NFL, draft a Wisconsin running back or an Iowa tight end, and you'll be good.
But they just stopped giving the ball in the second half. Yep.
And they said this is Carson Wentz's game to win. Go do it.
I don't know why you do that. And here's the thing.
So we'll get to the Titans in a second. But the Colts, like like this is a really really demoralizing loss if you're a colts fan because you finally got healthy you had some guys getting back you were the healthiest you've been all year you are up 14 nothing against the titans who have already beaten you this season up 14 nothing everything's rolling your way and you somehow lose that game so now you are not only like behind them by what two three games in the in the uh standings you also lost both games to them so it's a brutal brutal loss for the colts the titans i i i feel like the titans now like they have enough defense to do something and aj brown is incredible and like derrick henry wasn't even Derrick Henry got got kind of low-key bottled up today aj brown was insane aj brown is so fucking good and the titans are just i i've always like last year i was very much like hey the titans defenses is not sustainable now i think the titans might actually be a legitimate afc contender they've gone through a little bit of a gauntlet here and they've come out the other end So if you're the Titans and you knew going into this game that Tannehill was going to throw two interceptions and that Derrick Henry was going to run for 68 yards, you probably would have penciled this one in as a loss.
Right. Good news is Ryan Tannehill threw for three touchdowns.
A.J. Brown had 155 yards on 10 receptions.
So you ended up making it up in unexpected places. And likewise with the Colts.
What they did did was they were like we're not going to let Derrick Henry beat us and mission accomplished Derrick Henry didn't beat you AJ Brown beat you I'm looking at it right now so the Titans have Sunday Night Football against the Rams next week if they win that game they are officially on contender watch I also think that we need to make some amends and do some public apologizing to Fat Randy. Yes.
Because Fat Randy... Nailed it.
Maybe to our credit, actually. Maybe he should be apologizing to us.
Yep. Because ever since that game-losing kick that he had when he was a Bengal, where he pretended to...
Oh, sorry. No.
He had two calf cramps. Both his legs cramped up right after the fact when he hit the root.
He's been lights out when it comes to clutch kicks, and he had another awesome one today. Fat Randy on Halloween, he's been chopping down candy bars all day.
Blood sugar to the roof. Blood type is nougat.
He is just absolutely feeling himself. He was looking very, very big.
He was, but he went out there, he fucking nailed it. Right down the middle, I love fat Randy.
I do too. I was going to say something meaner, but I'm not going to say it.
What are you going to say? Well, I was going to say, like, he does have, like, the skin of a guy who eats too much. He looked, he did not look well.
Because I have that skin. I know what that skin looks like when you're, like, you just got that little, that little puff, the puff in your face where you're like, oh, geez.
All the blood ran out of his face by the end of the game. Because I think it was all digesting.
It's sodium poisoning. I have had it many times in my life where it's like, oh, geez.
Like, hey, maybe just do like one salad and a glass of water. Yeah.
I mean, Fat Randy's belly could just be a giant kidney stone, too, from all the salt that he's had. So he's a brother in arms.
He's a brother. By the way, I passed a kidney stone yesterday.
Oh, hell yes. Congrats.
I just keep doing it. I'm good for about one every month until I piss all these suckers out.
Yeah. Carson Wentz, by the way, last thing he said, I beat us in overtime loss to the Titans.
He also was wearing a jean jacket in his postgame. That would piss me off.
If I were a Colts fan, I'd be like, dude, come on. The jean jacket would? Jean jacket would be like, I beat us.
Yeah. I don't know.
Put on a costume. It might have been a costume.
It might have been. Yeah, it might have been going as Aaron Rodgers from last year.
Yes. Shout out, Billy, for nailing Aaron Rodgers.
John Wick. Yeah, good job, Billy.
You crushed that, Billy. Clap up for Billy.
Always just thought I looked like Keanu Reeves. Thank you.
Yeah.

Acceptance speech?

I'd like to thank Keanu Reeves for looking like Aaron Rodgers.

Nice. Okay.

Nice.

And vice versa.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I've changed my mind on Aaron Rodgers, by the way.

I think I like him now.

I don't see what you're going to say.

I do.

I think that what he was saying after the game, he was like, he basically admitted that he

microdosed and that he goes on like hallucinogenic trips because he goes, I did some stuff

Thank you. That's the worst.
What he was saying after the game, he basically admitted that he microdosed and that he goes on hallucinogenic trips because he goes,

I did some stuff this offseason.

Quickest way to your heart.

He said, I did some stuff this offseason that changed my perspective,

and I'm seeing the world in a whole new light.

Can you just wait until he's off the Packers, then I'll join you?

Because I'm going to flip that on the Packers fans.

If he ends up on the Steelers, the Broncos,

I'm going to be the biggest Steelers or Broncos fan next year. He changed my perspective on his perspective.
He's the worst. Maybe I'm just still high from Benny the Butcher.
Alright, let's go 40. Oh, last note on Titans Colts.
If you get an interception and then you get injured, the fumble shouldn't count. That happened to Taequann Lewis today.
It was so unfortunate. He intercepted the ball.
He tore his ACL. I think he tore his ACL.
I don't know. And in the injury, like, fell down and dropped the ball.
Well, the worst part was he hurt his knee, and I saw some people say that it was the patella tendon, which is what Victor Cruz had. Like, that's the really bad one that nobody ever tears unless it's like a car accident.
He tore it, fell on the ground. The ball comes out, so he fumbles it.
He's grabbing his knee, and meanwhile, six players from each team just jump on him, trying to get the ball out as he's trying to reach and grab his knee. He's underneath the pile just getting smoked.
I felt so bad for him. Yes, I did too.
All right, next up, 49ers-Bears. Here's what I'm going to do.
I promised myself before the season that I would not be upset about losses if Justin Fields looked like he was progressing. And guess what? Justin Fields looked like he was progressing in this game.
Turns out that Justin Fields is a really good quarterback when he can use his legs, too. Yeah.
Maybe just don't keep him in the pocket all the time. Matt Nagy is on the COVID list.
We hope he gets better. We hope he gets better.
Takes his time. He did not have his stink stink all over this game there were fire nagy chants at soldier field um and yeah turns out play action slants quick slants letting him move the pocket letting him run the ball he had like 100 yards rushing he had that incredible run the 22 yard uh touchdown run where he ran 59 yards in those 22 yards to score that touchdown.
Yeah, maybe that's why you drafted this guy because he's an electric athlete and you should let him make plays both with his arms and his feet. So the Bears defense is officially done.
Like they're not – Khalil Mack was out, but it's over. We're burying the era of Bears defense from like 2015 to 2018.
Yeah, it's like 2017. There's been different Bears defenses, but this one's like 2017 to about last year and maybe a little bit of this year.
Maybe they'll pop back up, but when you give up third and 19 tunnel screens to Debo Samuel for 80 yards. Like they were just, they weren't tackling anyone.
They weren't doing anything that was helping out the offense. It's over.
And they made Jimmy G look electric. They made Jimmy G revive his career because he was clearly on the hot seat.
So I'm just focused on Justin Fields progressing. He's obviously still a very big work in progress.
I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's incredible. He looked better than he has the last few weeks, and that makes me happy.
And wins and losses don't matter, but I also would like them to win games because I'm really sad about the fact they suck. There's a very mature outlook on your part.
You're taking the macro over the micro, something that your boss, Alex Rodriguez, taught you is important when it comes to sports. Exactly.
So I have a hypothetical here. If the Bears just, let's say they change the passcode on their front gate, Matt Nagy couldn't get in, but his paycheck keeps going to him.
Do you think Matt Nagy would just be like, okay, I'll just stay at home and not say anything? No. Because I don't think that he enjoys coaching football.
I think he does because he does those stupid quotes like after we get fucking smoked by the Bucs and he's like, this team really loves each other. I don't know.
Shit like that happens all the time. But even his quotes are kind of half-assed.
Yeah, but he's like... You can tell he doesn't even want to be Googling inspirational quotes.
He's a sentimental bitch. He's going off the first page of the Pinterest image results that he gets.
So, yeah, I hope he gets better. Big winner in this game.
But also take your time. Besides Justin Fields, who looked like a good quarterback today, especially with his legs, Kyle Shanahan.
Yes. Big winner today.
Because Kyle has gotten a very, very long leash, and I'm still of the mindset that if he got fired tomorrow, there would probably be like six teams that would make a call on day one. Absolutely.
Including, like I would love for him to come back to the Washington football team and team back up again with Sean McVay and Matt LaFleur and Zach Taylor and all the other good coaches that we had at one point. Yep.
But it felt like it was wearing a little bit thin with Kyle Shanahan because the results haven't been there for the 49ers. Yep.
And I feel like we were one game away from talking about his job. We haven't talked about his job yet.
Because they'd lost this one, we would have been talking about his job. Yes, absolutely.
Now that they win this one, I feel like we're now three losses away from talking about Kyle Shanahan's job. Yes, and Jimmy G was very good, so he saves his job for at least a little bit.
It helps that he played against the Bears defense that teeth left they didn't punt today the Niners didn't punt uh never a good sign for defense but a good sign for Jimmy G also Debo Samuel is electric and Debo Samuel is most likely if he doesn't if he stays healthy going to break Jerry Rice's 49er single season record wow yeah like he so he has he has a calf now yeah he has a calf now he has 819 receiving yards uh now obviously it's a 10 game season or 10 more games on their season because 17 game season but he would just have to average 75 yards a game in the final 10 games to break jerry rice's uh record for the 49ers which is crazy um so the whole this team didn't punch that can be pretty misleading. Yeah.
I've realized that this year because when I was growing up, if a team didn't punt, you're like, wow, they beat the shit out of them. Their offense was probably really good.
The Washington football team only punted once today, and they scored 10 points. Yeah.
So it's not always. No, it's not always.
But in this case, it was. And it's, I mean, these games, good teams don't screw up like the end-a-half, start-a-half situations.
They don't. And the Bears screw that up all the time.
They should have scored a touchdown going into the half. They didn't.
They got a field goal. Then they let up a big pass to Debo Samuel.
So they got a field goal, and then they scored a field goal to start the half. So it was like they should have been able to put them away, and they didn't.
And that's what happens to teams that are not good, and the Bears aren't good. But Justin Fields.
One thing about Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't like how he slides. He gets a lot of late hits against him when he slides, but it's almost like he's inviting the contact when he slides.
I don't want to say that it's because of what he's wearing, or how he's acting, or victim shame. Don't do that.
But there's something about. When he slides, he looks so photogenic.
He's like smiling and looking for the camera as he goes down. If you're a linebacker, you just want to hit him.
Yes. I agree with you.
Again, not his fault. Not his fault.
I'm not blaming him. Not his fault.
All right. Next game.
Panthers-Falcons. Panthers 19, Falcons 13.
If Matt Ryan didn't get stepped on and have his hand gush blood everywhere, would we have remembered this game? No, I don't remember a single thing about this game except for the fact that Sam Darnold got hit in his head. He did.
Probably from the gravitational pull of it. And he was taken out of the game.
And P.J. Walker is a guy that always just manages to find himself in football games.
Yes. He never starts them.
But I feel like the last two years, every Sunday, we've had at least one P.J. Walker drive.

Yes, it's true.

And Matt Ryan getting his hands smashed, that was like, oh shit, that game's going on.

Because there wasn't a lot of offense.

It didn't go to red zone very often.

The Falcons, Calvin Ridley, which we saw afterwards, he's taking a step away from football.

They missed Calvin Ridley.

They did a good job shutting down Kyle Pitts. Oh yeah, Stephon Gilmore.
It turns out he's still good. He had a late pick to, like, seal the game.
But, yeah, this was – both these teams are kind of the same team, and it's just like the Panthers are a little bit better. They deserve each other.
Yeah. They deserve – yeah, Matt Rule also launched a flag.
And when I mean launched, he, like, wound up – You've seen that video of the girl. I think it was at a Knicks game who's got a t-shirt, and she just guns it into the stands and goes into the upper deck.
That's hot. Yeah.
Well, bonk. That's what it looked like.
That's what it looked like. That's my favorite.
Whenever they post a video of like, yo, check out this chick. She can throw a football.
How hot is this? Well, Billy definitely looks at that and is just imagining offspring. That's all that means to him.
Oh my God. This chick can throw a football? Throw it spiral directly into my face.
That's so fucking hot. But yeah, Matt Rule launched a flag.
I think it landed on Mars. It was pretty cool.
Sometimes when you're a little guy like Matt Rule, you just got to remind people that you still got it. Yeah, you got a little pep.
Yeah, exactly. You got some shit to you.
Yeah, don't come at me. I'm Matt Rule.
I'll spit on myself in my smock. Okay, Eagles, Lions, yikes.
Big yikes. So I think that the sign that the Lions were doomed was when everyone decided this was the game that the Lions were going to win.
I woke up this morning. morning I looked I think it was 75% of the people were betting on the Lions I think we as a country should stop trying to predict when the Lions are gonna get their first win because at this point it might not happen yeah it just seemed like the time was right I'm guilty of it as much as anybody because I did bet on the Lions today I thought this was gonna be their their week.
I saw it as a matchup between Dan Campbell and Nick Sirianni, and I didn't know that Dan Campbell had it in him to out Nick Sirianni, trying to act like he was being aggressive for it and ended up making one of the dumbest play calls that I've seen in the NFL in a long time as far as coaching mistakes go at the end of the second quarter where, what was it? It was a situation they should have kicked a field goal. Yeah.
14 seconds left. 14 seconds left.
Fourth and one. Fourth and one.
And he said, I'm going to go for it. I'm going to be aggressive.
And he was going to try to be aggressive and go for it. To get one extra play.
And then what would that extra play have been? A field goal. Yes.
Correct. And he said, now to his credit, this is actually him being more Nick Sirianni than Nick Sirianni.
After the game he set an all-time record for saying it starts with me. He never said it ends with me too, so he's not reached that state yet.
But he said that everything out there starts with me, all the coaching decisions, the mood going into this week, our team's attitude, it starts with me. So Dan Campbell, officially, he's number one on the coach looking into the mere power rankings.
Yes. But I did like how he referred to the game today.
He called it a sea of crap. Yeah.
He was his. So my question to you and to the world is Dan Campbell does a really good job of owning the blame.
He said that was bad. That's what he said.
He said that was bad. I didn't set the tone the tone I didn't have my team prepared at some point just owning the blame like you just suck right and I like Dan Campbell so I'm not going to be there yet but like I think we give we've given him a lot of credit for owning how bad the Lions are but also if you keep saying like my bad my bad we should start listening and being like, you're bad well i i think in today's society we're most used to seeing people who suck pretend that they're great correct and so when you see somebody who's sucking be like hey i suck it kind of it scrambles your brain for a second you're like i like his honesty yeah right but the outcome is still a guy yeah i like how this guy Yes.
And I would rather have a guy be honest about it than have a guy who's deflecting blame elsewhere, coming up with excuses. But at some point, if you're like, listen, I don't have any excuses, I'm not good at my job, then I'm going to be like, wait, it sounds like this guy might not be very good at his job.
Yeah, he's kind of telling us. He tells us after every game that it's like, hey, it starts with me.
We weren't prepared. We weren't ready.
It's like, okay. Yeah, so we should start listening and being like, yeah, they're not prepared.
They're not ready. I'm willing to go ahead and make my own excuses for Dan Campbell, and I'm just going to chalk up that field goal, no field goal at the end of the first half as just being a little bit of the inner meathead poking through, where he just wants to be aggressive all the time, and he doesn't stop to think about, wait, what's the point in being aggressive if on the very next play I have to kick a field goal? Right.
It's just the inner meathead. That's all that was.
It was tough. But that doesn't really excuse the rest of the game.
And I don't know. Unfortunately, now I'm just personally worried because I think the only game that the Lions probably could win is Thanksgiving Day against the Bears, but I don't.
It's bad.

This team is very bad.

I know they're supposed to be bad,

but I don't think that makes it better for Lions fans.

Lions fans, you can tell yourself you're bad, but when you're potentially going to go winless again

in the span of, what, 10 years?

Like, that's, I don't know what to say.

The only thing I have to say for Lions fans is like some of you are Michigan State fans. That's huge.
Shout out World of Isaac. Yeah.
The rest of you are Michigan fans. That's a bad weekend.
But yeah, it's very, very bad in Detroit. And I feel really bad for Detroit.
And they're just not a good, like Dan Campbell said, they're just not, they're bad. That was bad.
I think you have to give Dan Campbell a full another offseason to restock the roster before we can accurately evaluate how bad he is. Because I think today, even if he had a roster that was as talented as the Eagles, they still lose that game by 25 points.
Yeah, but you never know. We should give him some time to to to work into his job a little bit maybe i'm just making excuses you know what he's tricked me into it i want to be good but it's just he keeps telling us that he's not good uh-huh and and we're not listening um i'm not i'm definitely not listening i can tell from the last five minutes of the things that i have said and then the things that i have thought that i am definitely not listening to to Dan Campbell when he tells me that it's on him yes yes what are you gonna say Hank uh well Calvin Johnson's you know their their shining star his uh receiving record is gonna get broken by Cooper Cup same quarterback Matthew Stafford so yes that probably makes it worse too is Calvin Johnson a system receiver somewhere that makes everyone electric.
Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.
Eagles, on the other hand, this is the old, are the Eagles back? No, they played the Lions. But you still get credit for winning and winning convincingly.
And I don't want to say they found something, but Jalen Hurts only throwing 14 times and using his legs. They ran the ball very, very well.
Their defensive line woke up. I don't know.
You should never apologize for wins. So Eagles fans, I think most Eagles fans are like, yeah, those lines, they stink.
But still, a win is a win and a convincing win. It's rare to have 44-6 or whatever the final score was in the NFL.
Yeah, this is a win that definitely stings, or a loss that stings if you're the Lions, because they gave up 236 yards on the ground. They limited Jalen Hurts to 103 yards passing.
Yeah, it was 9 for 14. 9 for 14, 103 yards passing, but he had a 93.8 QBR, which is, that stat is just so made up.
It's just bad. It's just bad.
Very bad day.

The camo that the coaches were wearing.

Nick Sirianni has a wardrobe now that it's, well, you know what?

It's October 31st.

It's Halloween today.

Correct.

It's not even salute to service month yet.

Correct.

It's not no nut November yet, Nick.

And they were both rocking the shit out of that camo.

He was just trying to beat us to it.

I think they were trying to be first adopters.

Yes.

Yes. That's absolutely what happened.
But I don't really have anything else to say besides that was bad. Which is a quote from Dan Campbell.
He's telling us. He's telling us.
Not a sea of crap. It was a sea of trash.
I agree with Dan Campbell. Okay.
Let's see. Say something nice about, again, the Eagles.
I don't know. The Eagles are kind of what they are.
They're scrappy-ish. I feel like Eagles fans probably wanted to lose that game too.
No. No, you don't want to lose.
The Lions are now at the point where if you lose them, it's embarrassing because they're 0-8. You can't be the first team.
That's why I'm dreading Thanksgiving Day. That's going to be terrible.
I'll say one nice thing about the Lions. Bye week came at the right time.
So they don't have a game next week. Get a reset.
I don't know if you can say that the Eagles fans wish that they had lost this game. No, they won a lot of that game.
We know a lot of Eagles fans. Their draft order.
Were they also the Dolphins pick? Which is number three right now. Yeah, that's right.
They have the Dolphins pick, they have the Colts pick, and their own, which are all top 15 right now. The only way I can think that the Eagles would wish they had lost a game is the Eagles fans that hate Nick Sirianni.
And I think also Eagles fans probably are doing, you know, they're straddling the fence right now of like, hey, if we could win a couple games here, maybe we'll be competitive in December. They're still trying to figure out if they draft a quarterback in the first round next year.
Yes. So I think they will with three picks.
You kind of have to. Yeah.
Okay. Next game.
Bill's Dolphins. Weird game.
3-3 at half. Felt like the Dolphins defense finally showed up to the 2021 season.
And then the Bills were able to just steamroll him the second half, Josh Allen smashing all the buttons, making plays. He had two plays in a row, I think, where he hit every single button at the end.
He tries to do a lateral as he's already down on the ground. Yes.
And the Dolphins, I mean, their defense did play well for a half. Tua, I don't know, wasn't his best game.
Let's wait until the All-22 comes out with Tua. Wait until the All-22 comes out with Tua.
That was a real defense he was playing this week. He wasn't looking that great.
It is weird, though, how the Dolphins only care about division games. Yeah.
They play that division so tough all the time, with the exception of the first game that they had against the Bills this year. Yes.
But usually if they're playing against the Bills, the Jets, or the Patriots, the Dolphins, they look like a completely different team than if they play a good team from the West Coast. It's also Dolphins' candy-ass season, because now that the weather's starting to turn, and you see those jerseys in western New York, and you're like, oh, they're never going to win this game.
It doesn't work. It's so easy.
They're like tourists walking down the street. Yeah, we'll pickpocket them.
You're not from around here. Yeah, and the Bills, unbelievable cover that they weren't covering all game.
They find a way to cover. Yeah, Tua, I'm going to be nice to Tua, but he wasn't good.
He wasn't good, and Deshaun Watson could still get traded to the Dolphins. Again, can somebody make a cut-up of Tua's throws and just completely gaslight us and show us why Tua was great on every – even the bad throws.
Why were they actually good in hindsight? But you're right. I feel like it's an inevitability at this point that Deshaun Watson is going to be – he's probably going to be making the rounds on the court-ordered door-to-door introductions in Palm Beach.
In Cade County. Probably going to move into Epstein's old mansion.
Okay. I mean, it's vacant.
No, they destroyed it. Oh, they did? They bulldozed it? Yeah, they bulldozed it.
Yes. Tua also had a ridiculous, that fumble, which I don't know if that was on him or the center or wherever.
We looked up at one point and the ball was just everywhere. It was a Benny Hill skin.
I don't think that one wasn't on Tua. No, I think Gusecki was in motion.
They hit him or something. Yeah, so they tried to do the thing where they send a receiver in motion before the snap.
And I'm actually amazed that it doesn't happen more often, especially on the plays where they're going direct to the quarterback who just puts it right out in front and does a jet sweep to the guy that's scooting by. I don't know how those types of fumbles don't happen.
They have to time it perfectly on the snap. This one was not timed perfectly.
Yes. I think just snapped into Gusecki's butt.
So I'm being nice to Tua. Isn't that nice to Tua, Jake? Very nice.
I mean, he was bad. But I'm being nice to him.
And I will wait for the Tua believers to tag me in every tweet this week and let me know how he wasn't bad. Remember, 94.9% chance he's traded by Tuesday.
That's true. That's true.
And then you know what? Deshaun Watson. You know who the first game is for the Dolphins? Who? Against the Texans.
Oh, wow. Instant revenge.
Instant revenge. Also, OJ Simpson was at this game.
Good. Yeah.
Glad to see he's still out there. That's my who's back.
Oh, it was, yeah. He did a little video reminiscing about the old stadium.
OJ is all about the content life at this point. There are people who probably were like, yeah, what's up, OJ? Oh, I guarantee you,

if OJ Simpson walks past you,

there are people that go up to take, like, ironic

pictures with him, that then post it online

and nobody can tell the difference between

irony and actually endorsing a serial

killer. Also, I mean, that's that Twitter

in a nutshell, where people, like, it's, because

the jokes are kind of funny,

I think people like it when OJ, like,

does these videos, because they can make jokes.

Yeah. But it's like...
It's still

OJ. Yeah.
Yeah. It's still

Thank you. the jokes are kind of funny.
I think people like it when OJ does these videos because they can make jokes. Yeah.
But it's like... It's still OJ.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's still OJ. Right.
Yeah. I'm just glad to see that he's out there roaming.
Yeah. And he's still free.
He's just doing the thing. Whatever that thing is.
Alright, Rams-Texans. I don't even know what to say about this game.
The Texans are like... Disgusting.

Fuck the Rams.

I mean, the Rams did blow the cover out of nowhere.

They're up 38-0 going into the fourth quarter.

Disgusting.

Crazy.

Crazy, crazy blowing cover.

Yeah, I mean, the Texans won the fourth quarter 22-0.

Disgusting.

I do think that recovering an onside kick, if you're the Texans here,

like you wasted it. I don't know.
What? Do you think this was a covering? I think onside kick. No, no, no.
I think onside kicks, like, I actually think of onside kicks as like you have a certain set amount as a franchise. Oh, like eggs.
Like a woman has X amount of eggs. They'll need one in five years, and they'll be like, no, remember that Rams game? You don't get it.
I don't know. The fourth quarter, I think the Texans had 73 yards of offense total going into the fourth quarter and then Davis Mills put the team on his neck and he was like, I'm going to be a garbage time all-star.
And garbage time all-stars, it's like Kirk Cousins, that's one that comes to mind. Jalen Hurts.
Carson Palmer had a that yep and then i would davis mills is working his way into the conversation of a guy that gets yards and touchdowns in absolute garbage time the texans are at the point where like i wrote down this game happened i don't really know they're not it's actually it's crazy at this point in uh like we usually have one or two bad teams It feels like we have a few really bad teams. I love it when the bad teams play each other, though.
Watch out, because coming up next, the Texans, they get the Dolphins, the Jags, the Jets, and the Colts. Oh, wow.
At least they get to play each other. Yes.
So we can completely ignore those games if we want to. I think the Colts have actually graduated out of being truly – or sorry, not the Colts.
The Jets have graduated out of being truly bad. It's the Jaguars, the Texans, and the Lions right now.
Watching those games are painful. Those three teams, they were down two touchdowns in the blink of an eye.
You turned on the game and they. I have a hypothetical for you.
Okay. Would you take a million dollars to play on the Houston Texans for the rest of the year? No.
Okay. That's easy.
You didn't even let me get the stipulations out. Okay.
Go ahead. How about this? Hank, you can feel free to chime in, too.
He's got to be moved back out. I'm just saying, but listen, these are part of the stipulations.
I'll listen. Part of the stipulations.
Would you play on the Houston Texans at running back? No. You get 17 carries a game.
Nope. You're guaranteed not to get injured, though.
You still feel the impact of the hits, and you wake up with bruises, but you're not injured. What does that mean? No.
You get $3 million for the rest of the year. I just gave you a raise.
The market's thin. You realize it was the worst hypothetical ever? The market's thinned out.
Billy, would you take it? Absolutely. Billy, we know you would.
$500,000. You'd have to live in Houston.
You'd have to be in that locker room every day. You'd have to deal with the sadness of being a terrible, terrible football team.
And you'd have to get your ass kicked. Yeah.
And you'd have to do whatever David Cully tells you to. No income tax.
No income tax.. Good point.
Davis Mills is your leader. You do it? Of course.
And get fucked up every single Sunday? 17 carries? You get hurt. This whole injury stipulation is not real either.
You'll get injured. I mean, if I'm not actually going to get a game-ending injury? No, you're going to get a life-ending injury.
You get bruises. You don't break any bones.
Maybe some ribs. You break one rib.
Hairline. And your nose.
Hairline rib. Yeah, 100%.
And your nose. And maybe your neck.
Your spine gets... 5% chance your neck is snapped.
Your spine gets dinged. Yeah.
Gets nicked. You get a nicked neck.
5% chance your neck is snapped. 50% chance you get knocked out cold.
Actually, I'm in. Yeah.
I hurt myself putting on sweatpants. There you go.
Why even, you know. It could be anything.
You get the jersey, dude. It just sucks so bad to look so slow and everyone will be like, what the fuck? If you told me I get to keep my jersey and frame it for me.
Bust one out. Yeah.
You break one. Two yards.
It's a numbers game. If you get the ball enough, you're bound to break one.
Good blocking scheme. Cooper Cupp is incredible.
He's already, so he almost, he's already like hit his career high in yards and touchdowns, and we're eight games in. His career high is 1,100 yards and 10 touchdowns.
He's at 800 yards, nine touchdowns. You think he's going to just continue to go off? They can't stop him.
Stafford and Cooper Cupp have a clear connection, and no one has stopped them yet. I'm just a big believer of weather impacting football later on in the year.
Hold on. But, I mean, they play in a dome.
I know Hank's shaking his head. I mean, they play in a dome.
But they can still get lightning in there. Yeah, that's true.
They could get lightning in there. Arizona plays in a dome.
San Francisco and Seattle, okay. Has he had a game? I'm looking right now.
So the closest Arizona, Arizona beat the Rams pretty good. And he only had 64 yards for no touchdowns.
That was the closest anyone has come to shutting him down. Every other game he's had 90 or more.
In most games he has a touchdown or two. So they get the Titans on Sunday Night Football next week.
That's going to be a hell of a game. That's going to be a prove-it game.
That'll be a game of like, are the Rams going to be candy ass or are they going to be a real football team? Yeah, yeah. All right.
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The Patriots are back. Yeah, they are.
The Patriots are back. Patriots 27, Chargers 24.
A very impressive win for the Patriots. Very impressive win.
I said it in the pregame show on Thursday. This would kind of shape how I look at this team going forward for the rest of the year.
And I'm all aboard the playoff train now. Okay.
So Mac Jones was airing it out. They kind of opened up the offense a little bit.
It wasn't just dinking and dunking. His numbers weren't as good.
He wasn't as accurate. But that's one step backward for a couple steps forward to that situation.
This year has been a story of how much does Bill Belichick trust Mac Jones? And last week, he really trusted him. This week, if we're talking like give him the keys to the offense, it's like you give your teenage son who's driving the keys and you're like, okay, you can now go out with your friends on weekends, but be back by midnight with the car, which is vastly different from where we were four or five weeks ago.
I think the Patriots can be summed up at this point. They're like a throwback

Patriots team in that they're not great

at anything. They're very good

at everything. They're just confident

at everything. I like how that sounded.

You know what I mean?

You don't watch the Patriots. There's not

one offensive player

where you're like, that guy's a game changer.

He's a difference maker

upper echelon guy. Matthew Judon

on defense, yes, but

defense kind of the same. They play good special teams.
Like, they do everything very good, and then you get a performance like this against the Chargers where it's the first time the Patriots have won against a good team this year because their three wins were against the Jets and the Texans. And I think we all kind of saw this coming.
They're like turning a corner where they're actually going to be a team that's going to be contending for something, at least making the playoffs in the AFC. Yeah, it's going to be a December to remember.
Those two games against the Bills are going to be very exciting. Matthew Judon, by the way, the red sleeves.
I started hating the red sleeves when I was watching them earlier this season. But it's so smart.
It's a genius move to wear those red sleeves. I guarantee you he gets more holding calls against them than he would if you were wearing standard sleeves.
Because those things pop all the time. They stand out.
If they're being pinned down, you know a ref can see it clear as day. Now I love the red sleeves.
Plus, if you're good wearing red sleeves, you look awesome. Yeah.
If you're bad wearing red sleeves, you look like a chump. I think if the playoffs started today, they wouldn't be in but they're right there like there's what I'm pulling up the playoff picture right now someone tweeted at me they'd be the seventh seed but that's you know I'm looking at right now there's the charges are four and three it's all because of the bye week and stuff like the charges are four and three they're not four and four um but yeah the Patriots I still don't really know what they were doing at the of the first half.
I don't know what they were doing on goal line when they were throwing the ball. And it's like, you guys run the ball very well, or at least have it times this year, I should say.
And in that game. Yeah, there's been times you haven't.
Yeah, and the Chargers' biggest weakness is their rush defense. It made no sense.
But yeah, that was a game that they just... They fucked Justin Herbert up two times now.
They played him last year and they fucked him up. Justin Herbert also had some really bad throws.
Some very unjust in Herbert-like throws. Yeah, so my question is now, were we maybe a little ahead of ourselves with the Chargers? I don't know.
I still like him. I still like him a lot.
I think Hank's right. I think that the Patriots might be realish.
But also, I'm a big hat to see. It's Chiefs.
The Chiefs. Yes.
So here's what I was looking at, right? The Chiefs have kind of fucked everyone. Yes.
Because the Chargers' wins were the Washington football team, bad team. Chiefs, maybe a bad team.
I mean, they're not good right now. And they definitely weren't good then.
Raiders, a good win. Uh-huh.
With Gruden, not Basiquia. And then Browns, which, I mean, that game was crazy a million different ways.
Remember, it was a 47-42 game. But the Browns, like, all those wins at the time were like, oh, my God, the Chargers, big, big wins.
I don't. I'm looking back and I'm like, wait, were they big wins or were the teams they were playing not that good? And then they lost to the Cowboys.
They lost to the Ravens. That game was a very close game.
Could have gone either way. But they lost to the Ravens, they lost to the Cowboys, they lost to the Patriots, and those might be...
Like, the Cowboys are an upper echelon team, the Ravens are an upper echelon team. So I'm not saying the Chargers are bad.
What I'm saying is we put the Chargers in the contender category in the AFC. I don't know if that was right.
I think that the offense today was just trying to... They were locked in on Keenan Allen.
They were like, I don't give a fuck what's going to happen. We're going to throw the ball to Keenan Allen every single time.
And it didn't always work out for them, but they didn't get off it. They didn't mix it up enough.
And I'm looking at... I just typed on AFC playoff picture.
I'm on Yahoo. Remember that website? Yahoo.
Yahoo. It's been a while since I've been there.
They got the Chargers as a seven seed. Patriots are on the bubble as number eight.
So they're outside looking in, followed by the Browns and then the rest of the teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs. But no, I think the Chargers are still good.
I think they're a very, very good team. They're well coached.
I don't know. I wouldn't put two varies on it.

They're very good.

They're very good.

Very, and then half very.

Rabbit, rabbit.

It's midnight.

Yeah, those are my first words of the month.

Okay.

You know that old rabbit, rabbit thing?

First month.

What is that from?

You set your alarm to sleep.

You say rabbit, rabbit.

I need all the good luck I can get, dude. What's's rabbit rabbit fucking it's like an old nickelodeon thing what is it i don't know we're hey boys we're done nutting rabbit foot rabbit rabbit is a superstition found in britain in north america wherein a person says or repeats the word rabbit rabbit i think it's the first of the month yeah wake up wake up wake up rabbit rabbit it's the first yeah you should say it on the first day of the month i don't usually do it but i really do need like i'm running bad so i need to just i need everything first things that you say or first thing you say so you're already my first thing i said was why did your alarm yeah november is ruined for you god damn it but i got it so i'm about to get hot boys wake me up when november I don't know.
I just... The Chargers are very, very good.

I'll say it in my chest. They're coming off of a bye week.
They're good. And they had this performance off of the Ravens' performance.
I still like the Chargers. I was looking at their schedule.
Here's where the Chargers are going to land in my mind. They're going to end up with a good record because their schedule softens a little bit.
I think that once they get to the playoffs and they have to play another

really good team, they're not going to be on that

level. Their next three

games are the Vikings, Steelers, and Broncos, which

should be winnable. Or sorry, Eagles,

Vikings, and Steelers should be

all winnable. They're

going to end up with probably 10, 11,

maybe even 12 wins.

Yeah, I'm doing my math. Yes.

I just don't think they're going to... I think they're not...
I'm not taking them for real in the AFC. Here's what I'm going to talk it up to.
The last rookie head coach to defeat Bill Belichick was Jim Caldwell in 2009. Bill Belichick has won his last 11 versus rookie head coaches.
Okay. So, Belichick versus rookie head coach.
They got pumped by the Ravens, too. Also, that stat came from 2015, so I don't know if anything's changed in the last two years.
I also always just like, I don't know, off a bye week, I just feel like you should always have your shit in order. You should be.
Yeah. So speaking of which, this is a perfect segue, the Jaguars off a bye week.
I totally forgot that the Jaguars had a bye last week. That's how much I didn't miss them.

They had two 12-month-on-the-field issues in back-to-back plays.

Is that not the most insane thing I've ever heard?

They got a 12-month-on-the-field penalty,

and then they had to call a timeout because they had 12-month-on-the-field the next play.

I've never seen that. That's how badly Urban Meyer's players want to get away from him on the sidelines.
Incredible. It's nuts, especially off a bye.
Not a good sign. But it is, in a weird way, it's indicative of what you saw with Urban Meyer today.
He doesn't have any friends there. There's nobody around him.
Usually a head coach at least has one lackey that's next to him that's hoping to suck off the strength guy, but he was fired before he started. He doesn't even have a yes man.
That's how bad things are for Urban Meyer. He had this quote afterwards.
I didn't see that coming. I really felt we had a decent week of practice.
Now, translation, we're at that point. So you can really kind of figure out everything from a coach's post-game press conference.
We've made fun of Nick Sirianni looking in the mirror, Dan Campbell telling us that he's bad. Whenever you do the good week of practice, it's kind of at the end.
Well, that's also deflecting. That's the opposite of Dan Campbell where you're like, I did my job as a coach to get them prepared.
Well, Robert Myers has never taken blame for anything in his life. He's the king of slipping those little numbers in there.
I remember Mark Trestman's Bears were the best practice team of all time. It was like, that was it.
Like, uh-oh, we're good at practice. Anytime a coach is like, you know, it comes down to execution out there.
I felt like we had a great week of practice. Great game plan.
We're all schemed up. We just suck.
Everyone got to the bus on time. No disciplinary issues this week.
Yeah. And then we went out there and stunk.
That's your coach throwing your team under the bus. And I'll say something nice about Trevor Lawrence.
Besides, I'm not going to say he's a bust just yet, but he's showing me bust-like tendencies. I can't really judge anything in this system, in the whole urban environment.
James Robinson got hurt. Here's something nice about Trevor Lawrence.
His receivers stunk today. They were dropping everything for him.
He should have had a much, much better stat line than he ended up with. So it's not all on Trevor Lawrence.
But I am excited to say he's a bust when he does reveal himself as a bust. Fun stat, the Jags are 3-14 against the West Coast in their last 17 games.
Oh, games oh damn well that's actually very good for the jaguars because i think they're like 1 and 17 in their last 18 regular games so they actually improve oh they go west the 3 and 14 is an improvement they should be better on the west coast i saw that i had the exact same reaction as you did i'm like wow can't bet on the jagu. They're playing on the West Coast.
Turns out it's actually a good thing for them at 3-14. Yes.
They also made Geno Smith look awesome. I did see this was – I noted it beforehand that, like, Jaguars-Seattle is one of those matchups that I just have no memory of.
Like, none. I just don't – I can't think of a big moment where the jaguars and the seahawks played and i looked it up uh in the last three times the jaguars have gone to seattle so today they lost 24 nothing last time 2013 they lost 45 17 2009 they lost 41 0 so it doesn't go well it doesn't go well yeah not at all at all.
It's bad. I'm looking up the distance here between stadiums in Jacksonville and Seattle.
Here's the Seattle chart. Jacksonville is, it's got to be like a top two or top three farthest apart stadium.
Yes. 3,052 miles apart.
I'm going to say that that's second farthest distance that an NFL team would have to travel. I feel strongly about that.
I feel strongly as well. It's bad for the Jaguars.
They made Geno Smith look good. Geno Smith had sick air on that quarterback sneak at the goal line.
Yes, he did. He got up in the air big time.
He also completed his first 14 passes. This is Geno Smith who we saw a week ago not even be able to throw the ball when he needed to get that last drive.
14 passes, Gino Smith ended up 20 for 24. The Jaguars are so, so bad.
Yeah, very bad. I feel bad for Jaguars fans.
Shot Con did say he's all in with Urban, though, which is, again, another sign that he's going to be fired very soon. Yeah, did he take his yacht to Seattle? Did he go through the Panama Canal? I don't know.
But like when your owner says you're all in, that means you're just not. Yeah.
Like you're publicly all in. That means privately you're figuring out how can we get this guy out of here for the least amount of money out of my pocket.
Why would you even say that you're all in on Urban? There's not a more obvious lie in the world to tell. And good news though.
Good news for Urban Meyer, it's not like half the country dressed as him

fingering chicks' buttholes for

Halloween. Oh wait, that is exactly

what happened. And you know what? Every

one that I saw, every picture I saw of people

dressed up on Halloween wearing the Ohio State

thing at the bar, I laughed at

every single one of them. They were very funny.

Always funny. I saw this one kid who was like

five feet tall, blonde, long hair

and a girl who was like brunette and I was like, that's still funny. It looks this one kid who was like five feet tall, blonde, long hair, and a girl who was like brunette.
And I was like, that's still funny. Yeah, it's still good.
Because I get the joke, and it's a very funny joke. And it's hard to perfectly nail the topical Halloween costume.
I'm sure a lot of people went to Squid Game. I'm sure there was...
What's the other topical one that was... Island Boys.
Yeah, Island Boys. Ted Lasso.
Urban was a topical one that made me laugh every time it was really good and it's also a genius halloween costume if you're the guy yeah because that means that you have you have a girl that just comes and grinds on you all night no babe it's part of the costume yeah it's part of the they won't know who we are yes um yeah i've always thought that if you do a topical costume you just have to be ready to fight whoever you see at at the party who's the same costume. If you show up as Ted Lasso and there's another Ted Lasso, it's a fight.
Well, there's very clearly a hierarchy of who's the most Ted Lasso person. I once went to a Halloween party where there was two Al Borlands and it was fucking awesome.
That's pretty cool. Because I tried to make him fight.
What year was that? It was like 2004. Yeah, that's incredible.
That must be so rare to see these days. No one even knows who Al Borland is.
I actually think if there were two Ted Lasso's, they would just hit it off instantly. They would have a great day.
This is awesome. Yeah, you want to play some darts and have positive conversations? And make this show our therapist? Go ahead.
Two stats that are going to be deep in my head going into this next week. Geno Smith is 8-0 against the spread in his last eight games, and the Cowboys are 7-0 against the spread this year.
Tail him or fade him. One's got to give.
I'm just like one of those things where it's like, and I've been betting against the Cowboys and losing. Betting against Geno Smith, losing.
Tonight we bet against Cooper Rush. But now it's like you bet against Geno Smith

because Geno Smith sucks, but he's 8-0 against spread.

They covered.

Who did they play last week in the rain game?

The Seahawks?

It was a Thursday night game.

49ers?

No.

Why is my – this is bad.

Brain is melting.

Saints?

Monday night.

Monday night they covered. Yeah, that's right.
Yep. Yeah, you're right.
Damn. What were you going to take? Let's play guess whose line is it anyway.
It's probably not up yet, but let's try. We have to predict who's going to start a quarterback.
Yeah. Guess whose line is it anyway? There's no way this is up.
There's no way they're playing each other, is there? I thought you just said... No, I'm just saying those are just two...
Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying they're playing...
The way you said that... Two stats that I'm going to be in my head this week.
No, the way you said that was playing each other. No, I didn't mean it that way.
I just meant the way there was two undefeated against the spreads. Oh, which one do you choose? No, no, no.
That's a great thing to have in my mind. I thought that you were saying one's got to give.
Yeah, this is going to be incredible, this matchup. Who the fuck will...
Which one are you going to pick? No, I, that's a great thing to have in my mind. I thought that you were saying, like, one's got to give.
Yeah, this is going to be incredible, this matchup. Like, who the fuck will, which one are you going to pick? No, I meant more like I'm going to probably hop on both trends.
Okay, me too. And lose.
All right, so who do the Seahawks play next week? That's my bad. That's so funny.
I hope they play the Seahawks. Seahawks are home.
I'm sorry. Cowboys play the Broncos at home.
Packers, Seahawks. No.
Actually, wait. We need to sort this out.
No, the Cowboys host Denver. Yes.
Seattle's on a bye. Seattle's on a bye.
Okay. All right, good.
So we can't. So it doesn't even apply to next week.
It is a good stat, though, Hank. Thank you for bringing it up.
Do the Cowboys and Seahawks play this year?

No.

They do not.

Okay, maybe next year.

Maybe both trends will continue until next year.

I think they both win the division.

Well, I guess Seattle, not really, but then they would be guaranteed, right?

Damn.

Okay.

Probably be a push if they did play.

The Tony Romo game. Sorry about that.

There he is.

That's okay.

My back's broken.

We were pumped. It was going to be an incredible matchup.
All right. It's fun to think about.
Washington football team Broncos. It is.
It is very fun. It is very fun to think about.
PFT. Just trying to give you some fun stats.
Washington football team. Listen, we're brothers in arms and terrible quarterbacks, but I did feel especially sad.
I bet on the Washington football team today. You turned to me before the game, and you're like, I think this is one of those days that Taylor Heineke's going to make me excited.
I think I used the words go off. I think I said that Taylor Heineke was going to go off today.
And this was the most Taylor Heineke game because he played serviceably at times until he got close to the goal line. Now, granted, his interceptions weren't – I'm not going to count those as real interceptions.
Okay. Because one was the Hail Mary at the end of the game.
But Jesus Christ, we're bad. And I was just thinking to myself while I was watching the end of that game, I don't have to do this to myself.
No. I don't have to watch and be invested in the Washington football team, who shouldn't even be called a football team we're not the washington football team we're the washington sports we're washington recreational activities we're the washington we get our asses kicked regularly it was a depressing loss because at the end of the game between us and vic fangio it was like watching two six-year-olds play blackjack against each other yeah and one knew the rules.
And everyone kept fucking everything up, giving us hope that we were inevitably going to squander away. And I reached the point with Chase Young where I'm...
The football team's defense is better when he's not on the field. I'll just say it.
I'll say it. Even though he had the fumble to maybe keep them back in it.
Yes, even though they had that at the end. That was part of the legendary fumble, incomplete pass when you're running the clock out.
Fumble again drive that the Broncos put together. Broncos really wanted to lose that game.
But Chase Young, I don't want to say that. I want to retract what I said.
I'll put it this way. He's on thin ice with me.
The Washington football team is on last draw. Chase Young on thin ice.
He's on thin ice with me right now.

He doesn't seem like he's rushing the quarterback at all. He stands straight up a lot.

They take him out of the game for half the drives

in the first half. I don't get it.
I don't know

what's going on. Montez Sweat is better

than Chase Young is. Chase Young,

every time I see him play, he reminds me

of Brian Arakpo when he was a first

round pick. And I went through

this phase. Subway commercials.
Yeah, great voice, deep voice.

I went through this phase with Arakpo where I was like,

he just doesn't get the calls.

He gets held every single play.

And at some point, that just becomes a guy that can't get to the quarterback.

Chase Young, he doesn't even get close enough to the offensive lineman to get held.

He just holds him out at arm's length.

It looks like he's playing the run every time he tries to pass rush.

That's frustrating on defense. It's bad.
It's bad. It was a painful game to watch and the only thing I kept thinking about while I was watching this whole time was why do I do this to myself? I don't have to.
It's not in my blood to... I don't wake up and I have to watch the Washington football team and root for them like I have to eat or sleep.
But I do it. I do it to myself.
And I don't know why. And it sucks.
And I'm not happy. No, they're bad.
And I just would rather ignore them. But I can't.
And Chris Blewett. I mean, that guy, he sucks.
It's honestly impressive. He kicks it right into the line every time.
60% of his field goal attempts have been blocked. Oh my God.
And this is what I was worried about. Not only when you sign a guy named Chris Blewett, he has to be the best player to ever play the position, or else you're just inviting an onslaught of shit, being like, oh, your kicker's name is Blewett.
Yeah, it is. That was our decision.
We consciously decided we would like to have a kicker named Blewett who can't kick the ball over 10 feet in the air off the line of scrimmage. But then it was just the reason why we signed him was because we wanted to cut Dustin Hopkins who immediately gets signed right off the street.
They're like, okay, we think this guy's good because we wanted to show that we were holding the team accountable for stuff. And so we cut a guy that's not bad.
He's not good, but he's not bad for a worse guy whose last name is literally Blue. Yeah.
It's bad. It's bad.
Yeah, they're just a bad team. And it's crazy because last year it felt like they were building something.
I guess when is Ryan Fitzpatrick coming back? Because I do think that some of these games, like today was a winnable game. Ryan Fitzpatrick probably wins this game.
I think so. That's the beauty of Ryan Fitzpatrick.
I actually would argue that if Ryan Fitzpatrick was quarterbacking for the Washington football team, they might have like two more wins. They could.
Because Taylor Heineke just, he finds new ways to like blow games and just be awesome between the 20-yard lines and then just fall apart. So I saw a postgame quote from Rivera.
It said that this team is still trying to find itself. Not a great thing for your head coach to say about you, that you have no identity, but it's true.
They don't have an identity. Their identity is Ryan Fitzpatrick is injured at this point.
Their identity is our defense was good last year. And it's week eight.
I saw the most pathetic fan response to that quote ever. Bear in mind, we're talking about the Broncos-Washington football team game, which was 17-10, which we've already spent too much time talking about on this show.
One of the responses was, the NFL is so scripted. Like, Roger Goodell set this plan in motion to make sure that the Broncos could beat the football team 17-10 in a game that precisely nobody watched.
And that's the level of cope that we're at right now. It's like rigged.
Refs are rigged. Refs are rigged against Washington.
You know what? I might just join in that. This league is rigged against the Washington football team because it's impossible for any team to be as consistently bad and just numbing, just numbing to your soul as they've been for the last 25 years.
I got some extra bad news for you. I think they might be power rankings are coming out on Tuesday.
We still have Monday Night Football, but I think they're officially the worst two-win team. Good.
Even though they've beaten the Giants head-to-head, I think the Giants are better because the Giants have beaten real teams. The Washington football team has beaten the Giants and the Falcons.
Yeah, okay, you know what? I'm going to request that you relegate the Washington football team from 2-5 to 1-6. Ooh, okay.
Can they be included in the 1-6? Yeah, because that guy wasn't off sides. So I disavowed that win against the Giants.
So we beat the Falcons and that's it. All right, I'll put them in there.
Okay. So, okay.
In terms of one-win teams, they are... Probably not the best.
No. They're second, though.
Okay, who's number one? I'd probably put the Dolphins one. But that's subject to change based on what? All 22.
I'd say just off the top of my head, and I got to look at the statistical models that I have on my computer and everything. But right now, if I had to do it, if I called the Washington football team a one-loss team, it would go Dolphins, Washington football team, Texans, Jaguars.
Okay, Ron Rivera, here's my advice to you. Just run the fucking football.
Yeah. Just do it.
Who's going to get mad at you if you go out there and you just run the ball 40 times? Yes. Just go to Navy's offense.
Taylor Heineke could run the triple option. It's salute to service month.
Yes. What better salute to service than to just run the ball 55 times next game? I'd love to see it.
I'd love to see it. All right.
Oh, yeah. And Broncos, I don't know.
I mean, you can't like. Broncos are so bad.
They tried to lose that game so many times that you can't even be like, that was a great win. No, it was not good for either team.
Yeah. Both teams should be ashamed.
Both fan bases should be ashamed for giving those teams your money. Although, I saw that Peyton Manning was there for his Ring of Honor ceremony.
All the Mannings are getting honored. Why do you waste your Ring of Honor ceremony against the football team? Well, because they won.
Well, because they won. Good point.
Yeah, we could probably learn a thing or two and not schedule our next ceremony for the Chiefs. Probably just two days ago.
Yeah, they were like, hey, are you free? It's crazy the Broncos are 4-4. And I even said when they were fumbling away the game and trying to lose the game, I was like, the Broncos, what are you doing? And all these Broncos fans were replying being like, we're not good.
We're just not a good team. But they're 4-4.
It's crazy. I mean, they've beaten some.
I think that the list of teams that the Broncos have beaten are actually funny if you say all the team names in succession. They've beaten the Giants, the Jaguars, the Jets, and the Washington football team.
Yeah, that's a joke. Yeah, it's incredible.
The Broncos and the Panthers are the Spider-Man meme because they're both now sitting at 4-4, and it's insane that they're both 4-4 because the Panthers have beaten the Jets, the Saints, that counts, the Texans, and the Falcons. I have a reminder for you from two weeks ago to remind you that the Panthers aren't good no matter what happened the last two weeks.
Yes. Okay.
Good. They're not good.
They're not good. All right.
Last game. Great game.
Bucs, Saints. Jameis got hurt.
It was very sad, although he was celebrating in the postgame locker room with his crutches. All-time clip.
I fucking love Jameis so much. It was...
How would you even verbally just play it out as if someone can't see the video? So Jameis, I think, might have torn his ACL. Billy called an LCL.
He got carted off. He was...
Not carted off, but he was off. A lot of pain.
Horse collar tackle. They get the big win.
The locker room looks like there's some kind of smoke machine or something. It's club dub like weird shit going on it's everyone in their pads dancing and then the camera flips and it's Jameis going fucking bananas with his crutches in his hands like Lisa Turtle doing the screech that's a throwback that only PFC and I will know right there I think he was playing air guitar in his crutches, which is fucking awesome.
I'm actually more concerned that Jameis is going to injure himself worse being injured than he would playing in football games. Because he's going to be a guy that's on the sideline.
If he does have to get surgery, he's going to insist on being on the sideline day one. And he's going to be trying to sprint around, like hitting people on the ass with his crutches.
Someone's probably going to fight him because he gets them too pumped up for a game. The team loves Jameis.
You could tell when he was going off how much they love him. It also was very unfortunate because Jameis was certified on one today.
He was making plays. He tried to do the pitch 10 yards down the field, the forward pitch that he faked the guy out.
He was wiggling around. He was doing crazy shit.
He was running. It sucked.
We need to talk a little bit more about the fake pitch play that he had. It was awesome.
Because he was 13 yards downfield. He's running with the ball.
And then there's a defender closing in on him. He pretends that he's going to granny shot style pitch the ball at the defender.
At the defender. Because there's nobody that he would be passing the ball to.

So he, like, faked them out with a pass.

So it's actually like a genius move.

Yes.

Because the defender would probably put their hands up.

Yes.

It's not out of the world of possibility that Jameis Winston

would throw an interception 15 yards downfield.

Yes.

And so you have to be ready for that.

And then Jameis just scoots around him.

And when he got tackled, it looked like he was doing the drill again

where he ran through all the arms, that gauntlet thing,

and he's like stumbling around.

Jameis was fucking awesome today.

It was so great.

I'm not ashamed to say it.

I almost cried when Jameis Winston got hurt today.

It was very sad.

When he hurts, I hurt.

Yeah.

No, it sucks.

I love Jameis Winston.

I wish he was still with us.

Moment of silence for Jameis. All right, that's long enough.
Trevor Simeon played well. Also, the Saints just have Brady's number.
I know that the Bucs beat the Saints when it mattered in the playoffs. Drew Brees' noodle arm was a large part of that.
But the Saints now, since Brady's gone to the NFC South, they're 3-1 against Tom Brady. And he looks uncomfortable playing against them.
That was a great defensive game for the Saints. They obviously had a couple blown, like that touchdown, where no one was even on that half of the field.
But it was crazy because with a minute left, I think all three timeouts or two timeouts, you're like, there's way too much time for Tom Brady. He's going to win this game.
We've seen it a million times. Pick.
It would pick six. I also think going into this game, obviously Mike Evans and C.D.
Deuce don't like each other very much. And so Bruce Arians is probably just like, if you want to kick his ass, kick his ass now, not in the playoffs.
Get it all out now. If you have to get suspended for a week, just get into a fight with him today.
Don't do it in January. And of course, they went at it.
Mike Evans, I don't know what the Saints defenders say to Mike Evans to piss him off so much. But they do it.
They're very good at it. I think C.D.
Deuce must just be an all-time shit talker. The Saints are a certified tough out at this point.
They play... In the dome.
They're just a hard-nosed football team. They beat you up.
They tackle well. I don't know.
Their defense is all over the place. Even their offense plays like their defense.
Alvin Kamara always gets the extra yards. It's violent running.
They're a decent team. I don't know what's going to happen.
If it's going to be Trevor Simeon, I know that we're going to pretend that Drew Brees is going to get a phone call. That will be funny.
He already shot that down. He said, I think Mike Tirico asked him on Football Night in America, and he said, I will be broadcasting the Notre Dame game this weekend.
Yeah. So that's actually kind of a non-denial denial.
That doesn't mean you can't play, right? How are the ribs? Not good still.

Probably not that good.

Not good.

I don't think that Drew Brees is coming back,

but Taysom Hill should be back next week.

Taysom Hill should be back.

Andy Dalton is still out there available to be traded for.

Is he?

Yep.

As first reported.

Come and get him.

I like Trevor Simeon.

My only problem is he's an all-time pat-the-ball guy.

Yeah.

Yeah, Blake.

Yeah, Blake. Good call.
Imagine Blake in the Big Easy. Ooh.
Hell yeah. It would work.
It would work. Blake Pontchartrain.
Yeah, it would work. Kevin White, one catch, 38 yards, no big deal.
Also one target. Mike Evans faked out an adult male on his touchdown celebration.
That was cool. Acted like he was going to hand it to the dude, and then instead handed it a seven-year-old girl because it's probably a lot easier to get the ball back if he needs to from the child.
Yep. But that was, yeah, big win for the Saints.
Huge win for the Saints. The Bucs are mortal.
The Bucs are like... The Bucs dirty.
What do you mean dirty? Their defense, like, they beat the fuck out of people. And they do it after the whistle sometimes.
That was a horse collar. Yeah.
Was that Devin White? Yeah, Devin White and Vita Bay, like, kicks the fuck out of people. Yeah, it was a horse collar.
Hank, he should be thrown out of the league. Hank, Jameis might never walk again.
Is it disgusting? All right, yeah. He should be.
He got a horse collar to hell. It was totally a horse collar.
And they didn't just throw a penalty because Jameis got hurt. I bet you that Jameis is going to train in the offseason actually wearing a saddle and being treated like a horse just to protect against that.
God damn it. You're going to put a jockey on him? Please have a documentary about him, please.
Yeah, I need all in for week one Jameis Winston. Yes, yes.
All right, let's do football guy of the week.

Hockey is on.

And no matter the city, no matter the team, no matter the game,

whether it's face-off or penalty shots, regular season or playoffs,

win or lose, no matter what happens. No matter where it happens.
New Amsterdam Vodka is there. Yes.
Alright, Billy, let's go. Football Guy of the Week.
So we had an awesome Week 8 nominees pool. Congratulations to Week 7 winner Max Williams, who dressed up in his full gear while he was injured to watch the cardinals so he beat out some pretty good competition with dawson knox with a broken thumb and the high school kid who played through bleeding lungs i do not know how he beat those two yeah the guy that bit his lip and pretended that he wasn't bleeding from his lung yeah so uh first up we have colin wilder free safety for wisconsin so if if you saw in Wisconsin's 24-7 win over Iowa, there was a Grit Factory hat that they were all wearing as a turnover touchdown reward.
So that was Colin Wilder's Halloween costume that got incorporated into the game last minute. He was dressed up as a Grit Factory worker for his Halloween costume.
Love it. Do you in clock out at the grit factory i think it's always open it's always overtime yeah yeah i like that remind me tomorrow i want to do an nil deal for the grit factory hats got it okay yeah that'll be sick we're gonna have grit factory hats soon that you.
It's awesome. Yes.
Our second nominee is Mark Schlereth, a retired piss dog who is quoted on saying on the broadcast. He's still a piss dog, right? Yeah, he is.
He wants a piss dog. You don't retire from the piss dog lifestyle.
Do you retire? Actually, if anything, when you get really old, you become a piss dog again. Uh-huh.
Resurgence. You come into this world a piss dog, you leave this world a piss dog.
That's right. It's a beauty of life.
He was quoted on saying in the Washington football team Broncos broadcast, I love football. It is the lifeblood that courses through my veins.
This is awesome. And it was probably talking about a punt.
Yeah. It was.
It was actually during a timeout. Oh, beautiful.
And he was dressed up as Mr. Incredible.
So, football guy.

Our third nominee is another Wisconsin player, Jack Sanborn,

who said he dislocated his finger to the point where stitches were needed inside the locker room,

said it was pretty gnarly but came back because it's Iowa week.

Yes.

Playing through pain.

Get the shit out of Iowa. I don't know how you can dislocate your finger to need stitches because the bone comes out.

Yeah, you get a compound fracture-type dislocation, then they jerk it back in.

I'll see you next time. Get the shit out of Iowa.
I don't know how you can dislocate your finger to need stitches because the bone comes out. Yeah, you get a compound fracture-type dislocation, then they jerk it back in.
Iowa weak. That's pretty gnarly, but pretty awesome.
Our fourth nominee is Jed Fish, the head coach of the University of Arizona, who said about his players, I probably tell him I love him more than my own wife, on linebacker Anthony Pandy. So football might be his

true love and his players

much more than his own wife. So those

are four nominees for this week. You can vote

on them on the part of my take Twitter

and also our bonus throwback

football guy of the week.

Billy, you're putting in

overtime work at the Grit Factor.

Sometimes when there's a bad crop

you need to just bring something back.

You said before we got

into the Billy! Billy, you're putting in overtime work at the Grit Factory. I like this.
Well, sometimes when there's a bad crop, you need to just bring something back.

So, yeah. You said before we got into it that we have an awesome crop.
But he's doing it every week now. I'm doing it every week.
It's always exciting. It's always exciting.
There was a video that was going viral this week, which is perfect because it's a viral old football guy moment. On this day in 1974, Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton celebrated what seemed like a game-winning touchdown by spiking the ball off Patriots cornerback Ron Balton's head and getting ejected after the ensuing fight.
Now, this is an insane video because he scores a touchdown and then just literally turns around and takes a football and spikes a guy in the head in celebration. Imagine if Tom Wilson did that.
And then the center, his center is the ultimate football guy. The quarterback and the cornerback got in a fight, and then the center just comes out of nowhere and just starts bulldozing people to protect his quarterback.
It was insane. And it was actually kind of warranted because you can't really see in the video, but the cornerback tried to step on his heels after he scored the touchdown trying trying to get a little extra action, which caused...
Bullshit. Got it.
Yeah. By the way, do you think that if Patrick Mahomes threw that left-handed interception that Carson Wentz through, everybody would be going nuts of what a smart play it was? Great pick six.
Yes, yes. Yeah, and those are football guys.
Good job, Billy. Good job, Billy.
Thank you. I'm proud of you.
Alright, let's wrap up. We got Who's Back of the Week.
Hey, what's going on there, pal? We saw you at the hockey game on. Do I know you guys? I'm Ryan Whitney.
I got a drink named after me. Not a big deal.
Pink Whitney? That's what I thought. See you, fellas.
I invented the thing, you pigeon. Pink Whitney for legendary moments.
Also, I forgot one thing to say about the Patriots-Chargers game.

I mentioned this guy last week. He's doing sad stats for us, Jeff Henderson.
Great. Go follow him.
Great sad stats. Jacoby Myers.
There's never been a wide receiver like Jacoby Myers in that he has played three years in the NFL. 126 receptions, 1,478 yards, has yet to catch a touchdown.
Wow. Has not caught a touchdown.
I think we've got to start betting him to catch a touchdown every single week. I like it, too.
Has never caught a touchdown. He leads the tweet that he sent me.
He made a graph. He leads the, he's like far and away, like 3X the wide receiver end zone virgins with the most blue balls.
That's Jacoby Myers. That's incredible.
He has not, yeah. I bet there were some players on those Chiefs teams back from like 2015 where Alex Smith went like two years without throwing a touchdown.
They already had been in the league. Right.
He's never, ever caught a touchdown. I'm just saying there was probably like one rookie one of those years.
But that's a lot of catches. 126 receptions, not a single touchdown catch.
Let's get him one. Yeah, we're going to start betting on him.
Let's get Myers a touchdown. All right.
Hank. My who's back was OJ.
We talked about that already. My other who's back, which we already kind of talked about, was just my back.
Backs in general. A lot of AWLs.
A lot of people reaching out. There's a lot of people telling me they've gone through similar experiences.
Sucks. And not one single person was giving me any type of positive, like, you know, it's fair because they're just being honest with me, but it's like, I'm in pain.
I can't move. I mentioned that online and everyone's like, yeah, dude, it sucks.
Like, good luck for the for the next two weeks. You're just going to be miserable.
The best part about having a back injury, Hank, is it's going to be like that forever. Yeah.
Yep. I already gave him that speech.
Also, not to hurt your feelings, but I told Dave when he was like, where's Hank during the Patriots game? I was like, he threw out his back, and he goes, how old is he? Yeah. No, I no i mean i agreed to that i feel the same way uh the little bit of for this shit the the bright spot is that if you do the exercises big cat fix my back yep to the point where if i do these exercises like five days a week i actually don't feel bad but if i if i miss them for two or three days i wake up feeling like my back's on fire so just do the exercises i'm gonna going to become a yogi.
No, you're not. Yabba-dabba-dabba.
Just do like these three exercises that will strengthen your core a little bit and you won't throw out your back. Is this a targeted ad? These three weird tricks.
Yeah, lay on this thing. Doctors.
Piece of plastic. Doctors hate it.
Yeah. All right, PFT, your who's back? My who's back is Arch Manning.
Oh. Arch Manning's back this week.
He went to Clemson. So he's doing his college tour.
They're all unofficial visits, though, meaning that the Manning family is paying for them. Yep.
They've got a lot of money, those Mannings. And so Arch is going to a different college every week, getting all the stops pulled out for him, so they treat him like he's a celebrity.
This weekend, he went to Clemson. Dabo Swinney made his pitch to him.
But I think we need to have the conversation around Arch Manning. Have you seen the teams that he plays against in high school? Why? Have you seen any of the highlights? Well, yeah, I have because Billy always puts his games on.
They look like they're tiny people that he plays against. Are they even the same age? It's private school, right? So his league isn't like IMG Academy, like top quality competition.
He's like, from what Ben Mintz has described to me, that his league's a little like, it's kind of mid-tier. He's playing mids.
He's playing mids, and I've noticed that he's very good with his feet. I've seen him go on a couple long scrambles.
Is he going to be quarterback? Are we sure that Arch Manning is a quarterback? Because remember, Cooper was a wide receiver. What if a team is like, hey, listen, Arch, we see you as being an elite wide receiver in college.
Would he ever do that? Probably not. Is he uncoachable? Some are saying.
I'd see his 40 because he might just be fast for that league. It's impossible to evaluate.
It does look like he's playing sixth graders sometimes. Yeah.
He's so much bigger than everybody else. Is he a bust? Is Arch Manning a bust? Probably.
Let's have the discussion. No, because he's lost in high school, which I think is important for a quarterback's progression.
Good point. Good point.
Losing, I'm serious. Yeah, I know.
I know. Guys who don't lose in high school, they don't pan out.
Yeah. Trevor Lawrence.
I want him to go somewhere fun. All these bad players.
He can't go to Clemson. Don't go to Clemson.
Yeah, don't. That would not be fun.
I want him to go to Texas. Ole Miss would be fun because it would just be like they're not going to – I want him to go somewhere where he won't have the most loaded team every year.
I want him to go somewhere where he wants to go. Yeah.
I'm team Arch. What if he goes to just like some small liberal arts college? Like he goes to read and just gets high.
Yeah. That would be fun.
Jackson State, yes. We are recruiting him, right? We are recruiting him actively.
Take an unofficial visit to Jackson State. Yeah.
Arch. My Who's Back of the Week is bashing Candy Corn.
It's back.

So this is the season.

There's two seasons that you get to just take out the old reliable online for instant retweets.

It's Peeps around Easter and Candy Corn around Halloween.

I never thought Candy Corn was as bad as everyone says it is. I don't think it's good, but it is always funny when everyone's like, you know what really sucks? Candy corn.
I agree. Oh, wow.
You came up with something original. Candy corn's fine.
It's okay. I said I like one handful of candy corn a year.
Candy corn's fine. That's perfect.
Peeps are good, too. One handful.
I don't actively seek out candy corn. No, if you have a bowl, I will take one handful and then be like, you know what? It's almost like swimming when we watch swimming every four years.
That's enough swimming for four years. One handful of candy corn, that's enough candy corn for the whole year.
Sometimes I fuck around with a little candy pumpkins, too. Oh, wow.
I think those are the same exact ingredients, right? I think so. It's the same thing.
Yeah, but they taste different. It's like all the M&Ms tasting different.
Olympics and back only 100 days till the Winter Olympics. Oh, thank God.
That's a lot. That's a lot in a little amount of time.
That's true. Is Lolo Jones playing? She's doing the winner.
The bobsled? I don't know. She's like a world champion bobsled-ist.
Yeah. By the way, I just realized you throw your back on Halloween.
I like bobsled-ist. Like when everyone's going out for Halloween.
That's very sad. I mean, I was going to the movies, so I don't think that matters.
So it was already sad. I guess.
Did you watch the movie that you were going to go out and watch at home? I was going to spite. Well, yeah, I tried to spite watch it because I was so mad at myself for hurting my back trying to go to the movies by myself, which now sounds sadder now that Big Cat said that.
No, I didn't mean to do that. And then I was like, all right, I'm going to watch the movie.
And then I fell asleep during it. Did you guys dress up for Halloween? Jake and Billy? What were you, Billy, a football player? No, I was Woody from Toy Story.
Oh, nice. Jake? And not Buzz Lightyear? That's an all-time mess on your part, Billy.
The Woody. You are such a moron.
No, but the Woody costume is so much easier to put together. Yeah, hat, a vest? Yeah, hat, a vest, cowboy boots.
Did you walk around with a badge? I did not have a gun or a badge. Okay, sure.
Just call me Major. It is so much easier to just throw to you.
I would ask Woody if instead of being a cop, he got drafted into the United States Marine Corps.

Jake, where were you?

I went as Blake Bortles.

Really?

Yeah.

Can I see a picture?

I don't have any pictures.

What do you mean?

I just don't have any pictures.

Damn.

What was your Blake Bortles costume?

Blake Bortles jersey from the studio that I borrowed.

All right.

That's it.

You didn't shave your head? No. You didn't put on on a skin colored yarmulke? That would be funny Yeah that actually would be good Next year Jake why don't you go with your who's back And then Billy will wrap it up My who's back of the week is Maction He's back this week We see the streak every year Starting Friday was the beginning Of 27 straight days of college or nfl football great time of year yes i'm here yeah also we're gonna i'm cooking up an awesome sweatshirt where it's essentially uh the sweatshirt bets might be cursed so it's gonna be you can bet any of the games i think there's five games this week three on tuesday two on Wednesday.
You can bet all five if you want. If you win even one bet, you get the sweatshirt.
So it's an unbelievable deal. You only get one sweatshirt.
You can't go like five at all and get five. But it's going to be awesome.
So tune in for that. Billy.
I actually have a bunch of stuff. Okay.
Steve Buscemi is who's back because he just dressed up as the how you doing fellow kids meme.

So that was pretty cool.

It was.

Jake Paul's fighting again in December.

Tommy Fury.

So he's back.

Curses are back.

Everyone who's appeared on the Manning broadcast has lost.

I was going to say Tom Brady, right?

Yeah, Tom Brady lost.

Everyone else lost.

Who else is back? Josh Allen is back. He is back.
I mean, he's not actually back. These are just some stats I wrote down.
Josh Allen is tied with Cam Newton for the most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in their first 50 games with 28. Whoa.
Yeah. Which is kind of cool.
It's very cool. What else? What else? You don't have to.
Well, I got stuff. Oh, Mike White.
Mike White. How many of these things are actually back? Yeah.
But also, it's not like a requirement. You don't get extra points here.
I'm going to give him extra points. Okay.
Mike White tweeted, Peyton Manning, I'm going to break your records one day, and technically his passing yard stat, he's kind of on track for with his first start. 405 yards a game.
Peyton Manning, total career touchdowns for the New York Jets. Zero.
That's true. Goose egg.
Cooper Rush also beat out Mike White on Dallas in 2019. Kind kind of a little connect the dots, like full circle.

Both of them started in through touchdowns.

For different teams.

For different teams.

Different games.

Yeah, but they're on the same team at one point.

That's wild.

That actually is wild.

Yeah, wild.

All right, numbers.

Good job, Billy.

8.

97.

Billy, you get two extra points for that.

92.

We've had that one.

So close, Hank.

Armadillos.

Have we had it?

Yeah, we have.

92.

We have had three times.

Make it four.

Okay.

Armadillos are prone to socialism.

Love you guys. I'll be coming for your love again Take on me Take me on I'll be gone through to a tree.
Thank you. 3, 2, 1, let's go.
Outro Music I'm out.