Bill Burr, Rugby Legend Tendai Mtawarira, NFL Week 7 Picks And Fyre Fest Of The Week With A Hypothetical Podcast Fight

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Bill Burr, recurring guest, all-time guest, back on the show.
He's got a new tour coming up.

Speaker 1 We chop it up with him about different things in the sports world, comedy. And then we have one of the greatest rugby players of all time.

Speaker 1 I'm going to butcher his name, so I'm just going to call him The Beast.

Speaker 3 Definitely tune into that.

Speaker 1 He will be in the studio, so it was an awesome interview. I learned a lot about the game of rugby.

Speaker 1 We know PFT loves rugby, but it was great for anyone who doesn't know rugby or for people who do know rugby. We also have NFL Week 7 picks.

Speaker 1 Tough slate, bad slate, but we find some good picks out of there. We have Fantasy Island Boys because I'm an Islam boy.
And then we have Fire Fest of the Week.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take presented by Coors Light. Today is Friday, October 22nd, and we are inside of Rado.
We're in Minver.

Speaker 3 We landed a couple hours ago. I got to admit, the altitude is already getting the best of me.
Uh-oh. I took the elevator up here, which adds an extra, I don't know, like 30, 40 feet.
Easily.

Speaker 3 I'm exhausted. I'm tired.
That's not from not getting any sleep last night. That's from just being in the altitude.
I'm going to just blame everything on the altitude while I'm here.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. So we're in Colorado.

Speaker 1 We are taping before the Broncos play the Browns because we have an event tonight. Pup Punk is playing.
We're doing a game watch for the Broncos and the Browns.

Speaker 1 So we're going to do a little choose your own adventure on tonight's game, which we looked at the schedule and we're like, hey, if there's ever a night that we could maybe tape beforehand, Teddy Bridgewater versus Case Keenum.

Speaker 1 Everyone in the Browns hurt except Jarvis Landry's back.

Speaker 1 Both teams reeling. Bad weather.
Wind. Hank.
Are you sure? Shame? There was supposedly.

Speaker 3 No, we got faked up by wind.

Speaker 3 Fool me once. Shame on me.
Fool me twice. Shame.
We won't get fooled again.

Speaker 1 Supposedly wind.

Speaker 6 And we're here in person. There's no wind.

Speaker 3 The game's going to be in Cleveland.

Speaker 6 Oh. I thought that's why we're in Colorado.

Speaker 1 Was that a bit you just did? No, that was real. Okay.
Do you think I could?

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, all right,

Speaker 3 36 yards away.

Speaker 1 I thought that was like part of the thing, whatever. Well, no, it was the only standalone game that we could find on the game.

Speaker 6 That makes sense why they're underdogs. All right,

Speaker 1 okay, breaking news.

Speaker 3 Welcome to the world's number one sports podcast.

Speaker 1 It's in Colorado.

Speaker 1 I do. Well, we did do this whole travel to Colorado for the Broncos game.
Yeah, to watch the game.

Speaker 1 I do do that often, though, where I will like spend an entire week being like, a game is one place, and then find out right before and be like, well, that sucks because everything I thought is now reversed.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we're here in Colorado. No winter.

Speaker 1 one's here. No win here.
No winter.

Speaker 1 No one's here on either team,

Speaker 1 except maybe John Elway. Hank and I had a fabulous lunch at John Elway's restaurant.
No big deal.

Speaker 3 Baker might be here.

Speaker 1 We don't know that. Baker could be here.
He could be.

Speaker 3 I actually kind of like the fact that we're getting at least one Thursday night football game with a case. But we need a case or a Blake playing in Thursday night football.

Speaker 1 It's good to have Case Keenan back, although he did wear his backwards hat, so Colin Coward has erased him as well

Speaker 1 in terms of franchise quarterbacks. So, quick choose your your own adventure.

Speaker 1 I bet on the Broncos because I'm rooting with a bunch of Broncos fans tonight. I hope the Broncos win.

Speaker 3 I'm going to say Broncos

Speaker 1 19,

Speaker 1 Browns 17.

Speaker 3 That's a good score. That is a good score.
That's a score for this game. I'm going to say Broncos 24.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Browns 13.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 1 Broncos.

Speaker 6 35.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 Okay. Browns 29.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 3 Who's going off tonight for the Broncos?

Speaker 1 Teddy Two Gloves.

Speaker 1 I actually think that Hank is probably going to be the closest to being correct because it's basically a law that whenever you think a Thursday night football game is going to suck, it ends up ruling.

Speaker 3 It's always good. Now, what about this wind factor that I keep hearing so much about? If you're used to playing in Colorado...
You're used to playing in like the thinnest of all air.

Speaker 3 Isn't wind just really heavy air moving in one direction?

Speaker 1 I'm looking up weather right now.

Speaker 3 I'm not a meteorologist.

Speaker 1 This is great, too, because none of this matters because when people listen to this, it will already have been decided.

Speaker 3 But we do know that Tornadoes is real wind.

Speaker 1 Tornadoes is 100% real wind. I'm looking right now.
It says next hours is going to be somewhat, oh, wind 26 miles per hour.

Speaker 3 That's pretty windy.

Speaker 1 That's windy. That's windy.
That is officially wind.

Speaker 3 This will be a great game to see if, like, how much an addition of a team leader who plays a position that's entirely reliant on another position can help out. Because Jarvis Landry, he's a dog.

Speaker 3 We know he's a dog.

Speaker 1 He does add the grit.

Speaker 3 He's a good person on that team. He adds the grit.
If he can, like, will the Browns to victory, it'll be like, I don't think that Case Keenum is going to go out there.

Speaker 3 Well, this is a Case Keenum revenge game.

Speaker 1 Let's not forget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the only thing that I'm worried about with betting on the Broncos is that Odell Beckham has like spent his entire time in Cleveland just talking to backup quarterbacks, being like, you should be the starter.

Speaker 1 And when you're the starter, we're going to go off. So like he, because it's clear that he and Baker maybe aren't on the same page all the time.
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 1 So maybe he's just been on the same page as Case, and Case Keenum just throws him bombs, and we we see old school Odell, which Odell Beckham, like,

Speaker 1 he's one of those players that he could play another 10 years, and I'll just be waiting for him to take a slant to the house, because that's just what he did with the Giants.

Speaker 1 It just hasn't been there.

Speaker 3 I would like credit for when Big Cat just now said. Odell has been talking to number two.

Speaker 3 I didn't say anything. I think that earns me at least one or two Rick Riley jokes over the next two episodes.

Speaker 1 Although by saying it, you did say it. I didn't.
No, but I didn't say it.

Speaker 3 I said that I didn't say it. Verbal meme, I'm that kid that's trying to hold in a fart in class, trying not to talk about it.
With El Beckham getting shit on his face.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 with his face like all red, all the veins. That's me.
That poor kid.

Speaker 1 We got to get that kid on. We should do like inside the memes.
All right.

Speaker 3 It's actually a pretty good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should. We should just have just different memes on.
Remember Scumbag Steve?

Speaker 1 He's probably doing someone's fucking life insurance.

Speaker 3 He's dad. Scumbag Steve's dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I want to meet the distracted boyfriend guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that guy.
All right. So we're going to talk about our preview.
We're going to do our entire weekend preview. Like I said at the beginning,

Speaker 1 it's old school PMT. It's just PFT, Hank, and I in the room, what it was for the first couple of years.

Speaker 1 The rest of the crew back in New York. We have their picks, though.
We have their firefests. But before we do our weekend preview, we've got to do a couple quick stories real quick.
So Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 Ben Simmons. is everything we've wanted and more.
If you missed it, if you're living under a rock, Ben Simmons is now claiming a back injury.

Speaker 1 So, Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack, he's saying, ow, my back. He also is claiming mental health, which checkmate, you can't really say anything about that.
So, I'm going to bypass that.

Speaker 3 I'd like to applaud Ben Simmons for being so brave.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Would you like to agree? Yeah, I would say it's okay to not be okay.
No, Hank says Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 You're saying he's faking it? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 But yeah, checkmate, Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 If you are faking it, total scumbag. but I'm not allowed to say that because I don't know.

Speaker 3 Right? If he is faking it, he's actually setting mental health way back.

Speaker 1 Way back.

Speaker 3 I certainly hope that he's not. You know what's funny is like this.

Speaker 3 I saw people comparing the Ben Simmons situation to the Jimmy Butler situation.

Speaker 1 Totally different.

Speaker 3 Because Ben Simmons could not show up and beat his entire team in practice if he wanted to.

Speaker 1 That's really the ace in the hole that Jimmy Butler has.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I keep saying it, and I feel like there's some people who still don't understand it. Like, Ben Simmons is the reason why the Sixers have been held back.

Speaker 1 It's not that he, like, if Joel and Biade was holding out, it'd be a completely different scenario here because Joel Embiid is their best player by far and away.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if Ben Simmons had any sense of humor, what he would do is he would actually try, practice his ass into shape, work on his three-point shot in the offseason, then start playing and start earballing every shot intentionally.

Speaker 1 Whoa, he wouldn't have to do it intentionally.

Speaker 3 No, it's like he should get good enough to the point where Doc's like, we got a new Ben. He's a definite starter right now.
Like, we love what he's done in the offseason.

Speaker 3 And then get out there and start dunking on his own hoop.

Speaker 1 It would be great, though, if

Speaker 1 that like spurred an idea. Like, what if he just came back and he just shot every time he touched the ball?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so didn't even have to practice his shot, but like, he could then say, you guys wanted me to shoot. Now I'm shooting.
I suck at shooting. Which one is it?

Speaker 3 Be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 1 But either way, Daryl Maury, I think he is probably read Art of the Deal because he said

Speaker 1 they are willing to have this last four years.

Speaker 1 The entirety of Ben Simmons' contract. He just anchored the negotiation.
He said, we're not going to trade him unless we get a true peace back.

Speaker 1 And if this has to go on for four years, it will go on for four years.

Speaker 1 Here's to four years. I hope it does because that would be hilarious.
But Daryl Maury,

Speaker 1 good counter move to Ben Simmons saying he's dealing with mental health.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm looking at the stacks of money, and who am I going to bet on? Ben Simmons' money running out first or Michael Rubin's money running out first.

Speaker 1 And he's not even the majority owner. 4%.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 So like Michael Rubin's bank account times 25. Yes.

Speaker 1 Also, if you guys want to go to a game this year, I got an email from Michael Rubin's assistant inviting me to a game. It was very, it felt personal.

Speaker 3 I got a DM from Lil Uzi Veris.

Speaker 1 So yeah, it felt personal, but we should pick a game and all of us go. Okay.
Why not? I mean,

Speaker 1 it was a mistake for him to have, I think that he, I think what Michael Rubin's assistant does is send it to anyone who's ever gone to a game with him.

Speaker 1 So, but it was a mistake because, like, pick any game you want to go to. We should pick like the Lakers and be like, can we have 10 floor seats, please?

Speaker 3 We should go, and Hank should wear a free Ben Simmons shirt. Yes.
You should be rooting for Ben Simmons to come back, actually, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I am.
Yeah. I'm a Ben Simmons' biggest fan.
Shout out Michael Rubin, though. We like him.
All right. So that was story number one.
Story number two is, Hank,

Speaker 1 you were a blown Laz Diaz pitch away from being in the World Series, and now the Red Sox seem to be

Speaker 3 maybe dead. Where's the panic button at?

Speaker 6 It's high. Riding high.

Speaker 1 Riding high.

Speaker 1 I might have, I don't mush the the team.

Speaker 6 There's a lot of people that listen to this podcast that maybe don't listen the day after. They listen a few days after.

Speaker 6 And I've been getting tweets like today and yesterday being like, hey, just listening to Wednesday's show. Thanks for mushing the Red Sox.

Speaker 1 I shout out, by the way, that group of people because I actually love those people.

Speaker 1 The like Tuesday commenting on the Monday show.

Speaker 1 I love those people. I don't know what's going on in their life that they listen a full day after, but there is like a full group of people that I notice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So whoever's listening to this right now on Saturday, happy happy weekend. Well,

Speaker 3 I would like to hear from the people that are listening to this on Monday. Yeah.
After NFL, you know who those people are? Those are people whose teams lost over the weekend.

Speaker 1 No, those are perverts. Perverts? Because they're listening to us be wrong about everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like when it like the pick'em, the pick'em has like the most views it has is always on Sunday morning because people want to listen to how many picks we got wrong.

Speaker 3 Perverts. But that's also people that maybe their teams lost this weekend and so they want to deflect and they want to feel mad at somebody else, not their team.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Listen to us be wrong about everything. Then it was our fault that your team lost.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
So back to it, Hank. Nice deflection there yourself.

Speaker 1 Red Sox dead, live. I actually did think they were going to win the World Series, and that pitch,

Speaker 1 this is my point about Robot Ops because Robot Omps became the trend after that. It was a blown strike three call, like he should have been a strike three.
And he was bad all night for both teams.

Speaker 1 But I think no one really, it really, no one has any pity for either side.

Speaker 1 But either way, robot-umps, while in the idea of them is good, the fact that you can't then complain about things forever sucks.

Speaker 1 So like right now, I think that Red Sox fans can realistically say they would have won this series if it wasn't for Laz Diaz.

Speaker 1 If you have a robot ump and you don't, and you lose the series, you have no one to blame. That's fine.
Okay. All right.
What if you lost it just regular? Like no one wants to lose.

Speaker 1 It's like the old, like, don't ever try too hard because then if you fail, it's like, well, you tried your hardest and you failed.

Speaker 1 Like, don't ever have a robot decide who's the better team because if you're not the better team, then you can't blame a robot.

Speaker 3 Well, I also think that if you switch over to the robot opt, that you can still get mad and be like, we should never have taken the human element out of this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But either way, it does,

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it, Hank. It sucks for you right now.

Speaker 1 I feel some sympathy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, you got to win game six, and then game seven, anything can happen.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 And then we're taping it before the Braves Dodgers game. This will be an all-time Atlanta curse/slash big cat mush, but I think the Braves are going to kill the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 Your confidence in the Braves is bad.

Speaker 1 You should never be confident in the Braves.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but maybe that's Big Cat came up like, I don't know, 30 minutes earlier. We've been sitting in the room and he's just been talking about the Braves.
It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Makes no sense.

Speaker 3 Never be confident at all in Atlanta sports.

Speaker 1 But that's the point. That's a general rule of thumb.
But what happens when a noted, terrible, shit-for-brains gambler, lifetime loser, and myself gets confident about Atlanta sports?

Speaker 1 Maybe that's the perfect storm.

Speaker 3 You think to reverse it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think you're like, if I start believing, that's two negatives equal a positive.

Speaker 3 I think that you're the last person that would ever believe in them. Like the actual Atlanta Braves fans

Speaker 3 do not believe in this team. They think that you're being a sucker because you have not experienced the same heartbreak that they have.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying

Speaker 1 this is now the perfect storm. The Braves are in the World Series.
Congratulations to the Braves.

Speaker 3 I'm rooting for the Braves.

Speaker 1 Anyone? I'm rooting for the Braves.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for him. I'm not going to do that to him.
Through the World Series.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to do that to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 This is going to suck so bad.

Speaker 1 Not going to do it to him. People are going to be so bad.

Speaker 3 I want the Braves to win because Max isn't pitching.

Speaker 1 Trey Turner's hurt, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, yeah, so the baby Nats.
Yeah. They're not involved in this.

Speaker 1 Max has a dead arm puzzle.

Speaker 3 Dead arm. Yeah, that's tough.
So Joe Kelly, you said a starting.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a bullpen game.

Speaker 3 A bullpen game, which I love. I don't know.
I always got in my head since I was a kid that starting pitchers and relief pitchers and then closers all play completely different positions in baseball.

Speaker 3 Turns out they're the same exact position. Correct.
Just some guy along the way was like, you feel like a middle reliever to me.

Speaker 3 And then for the rest of that guy's career, he's stuck throwing middle relief.

Speaker 3 But if you have like six decent pitchers that can all go for an inning or two, why wouldn't teams do this more frequently?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Rays. The Rays do it all the time.

Speaker 1 I think the Dodgers are doing it out of necessity tonight. I think if they had a healthy Max Scherzer, they'd probably be more.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so that was our baseball talk. Again, apologies to Braves fans if I was wrong.
But I think, you know what? No, I'm not going to apologize. You're in the World Series.
I won.

Speaker 1 I made a responsibly large wager on the Braves to win game five, and they went out and they proved me right.

Speaker 3 So tonight is actually National Sports Day.

Speaker 3 I just made up that holiday, but it should be National Sports Day because you have every major sport playing tonight and you have college football playing tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wouldn't we save it for... Oh, I guess, yeah, because, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, so Saturday and Sunday, yeah.

Speaker 3 Don't have the great day of sports day. Great day of sports.
Enjoy. Hope you guys had a great time last night watching your Atlanta Braves make the World Series.
Dallas Clap.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good job, Braves. All right, last thing before we get to our weekend preview,

Speaker 1 just a quick word about our good friend Coach O, who I hope we have on the show at some point. But I just, we have to call out the fact that the athletic

Speaker 1 had a retraction about the pregnant story. Did you see that? No.
Yeah, they had to, so there's a story.

Speaker 3 Contraction.

Speaker 1 A contraction. The story was that Ed O

Speaker 1 hit on a woman at a gas station who was pregnant, and also her husband was a high-ranking LSU official.

Speaker 1 the editor's note that was just slid in there uh like on wednesday said this story has been updated to reflect that the woman ed oseron encountered at a gas station was not pregnant as previously reported the athletic regrets that error i i that's that's up you can't do that that's an all-time ricochet shot at that woman because you know you're never supposed to say to a woman like hey congrats when are you due on the off chance that they're not pregnant.

Speaker 3 This got published in a national article, spread across all the seven C's. So everyone now thinks having an apology for calling you pregnant in a written piece of journalism, that's bad journalism.

Speaker 1 And it's also Coach O has been, we've made some jokes, hand up, because there have been funny jokes.

Speaker 1 And we love the guy. He knows that we love him.
We know that everyone else knows that we love them.

Speaker 1 But people who ran with this story and then they just are like, oh, yeah, sorry, we fucked up. Hopefully we have Coach O on at some point to help clear the air on some of these stories.
And I think

Speaker 1 I'm moving past the jokes and I'm just going to keep reminding people 2019 is one of the best college football teams of all time coached by Coach O.

Speaker 3 And the story continues to evolve about the girlfriends at practice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that was right.

Speaker 3 Now it's like their kids were running drills at practice. And now you've got guys on the team being like, no, this never happened.

Speaker 3 But even if it was true, which it wasn't, if it was true, wouldn't that just mean that Coach O was recruiting harder than ever?

Speaker 3 He's like dating the moms of the kids that he's recruiting and then bringing them to practice and putting them in drills. That sounds to me like a good coach.

Speaker 1 Either way, I never thought any of this stuff was bad.

Speaker 1 I thought that Coach O probably, the reason why he's getting fired is because SEC fans are crazy and he had two bad years and that's just how it works in the SEC.

Speaker 1 And I think Coach O is probably at peace with that.

Speaker 1 The other stories, well, well, funny when they were thrown out there.

Speaker 1 And I love Coach O to the point where I like, I want to believe every Coach O's story because they're all, I view them all as positives, not negatives.

Speaker 1 Either way, that retraction came out, so I think that's bullshit by the athletic. I've got my eyes on you, athletic.
Guess what?

Speaker 3 Banners fly forever.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's true. Flags fly forever.

Speaker 1 Coacho, whenever he's ready to come on the show, we're going to have him on the show, and we will address it all. And he can just be like, yeah, none of it's true.
Head on. Make us love him even more.

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Speaker 3 Okay, week seven,

Speaker 1 it's not great. It's not great.
We've got bye weeks

Speaker 1 and we've got some games that look on paper, if you're just going off of spreads, look like they could be big-time blowouts.

Speaker 3 But this is when football sneaks up on you.

Speaker 1 This is when football sneaks up on you. And so it's the combination of,

Speaker 1 listen, Sunday night football, Sunday night football.

Speaker 1 But we've had a really good run of Sunday night football games that it feels like everyone's very excited for, minus week one when the Bears played.

Speaker 1 This one feels like the Colts and the 49ers feel like maybe a little air out of the Sunday night football, and it's supposed to be bad weather.

Speaker 1 But either way, the Bills, the Cowboys, the Vikings, the Steelers, the Chargers, and the Jaguars are all on by.

Speaker 1 Like, just on paper, the Bills, the Cowboys,

Speaker 1 the Vikings, and Chargers are four of the funnest game teams. And then you had Big Ben.

Speaker 3 And the Steelers, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you had Big Ben. So five out of six of the teams, and even watching Urban lose is fun.
So like six teams that are all very fun and make Sundays fun are all on buy.

Speaker 3 Do you ever do the thing when the season starts where you look at when your team's buys and you're like, that's a good position for a bye week right now? Oh, yeah. Six is too early now.

Speaker 3 Six is. I used to think it was like almost perfect, but now, especially with the 17th game, like I would not want, you know what the perfect week is? If you have have a week 11 by.

Speaker 3 I was going to say 10. 11 is the perfect week for a buy because you kind of get over that hump a little bit.
And that point, you get to gear up for the stretch run.

Speaker 1 It's like

Speaker 1 week 11 by is like waiting till 1.30 to eat your lunch. Yeah.
You know, where you're like, ooh, when I get back from lunch, I only got three hours left.

Speaker 3 You're basically done already.

Speaker 1 You just hold out. And then a week four buy is like when I sometimes will eat lunch at 9.45 in the morning.
Yep. And just be like, fuck.

Speaker 1 What do I do now?

Speaker 3 If you had to pick one, it's absolutely this year. It's week 11 by.
Week six, they should absolutely space out. You can't give us like the Cowboys and the Steelers to have the same bye week.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And the Vikings,

Speaker 1 I don't like the Vikings, but they objectively play fun games. Yes.
They're always in it like the last second. So that sucks.
Either way, let's get into the games. Let's do the picks.

Speaker 1 We will fill in Jake and Billy and Liam's picks for the drive to survive or what are we calling it?

Speaker 3 Yeah, drive to the 405.

Speaker 1 Drive to the 405 to live and die in L.A.

Speaker 1 Hank, want to start with your favorite? Your favorite, favorite?

Speaker 3 Let me guess, Hank.

Speaker 3 Because you've been riding this Boston party

Speaker 3 pretty hard.

Speaker 1 Not going great, but yeah, I have been.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Take a guess.

Speaker 3 The New England Patriots.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 Rivalry game, Billy versus Hank. Yeah.
It's going to be great, which, by the way, there was some talk today about them fighting in Rough and Rowdy. There was.
Wasn't the talk was coming from my mouth.

Speaker 1 You know what? Hank said no.

Speaker 3 You know who I really miss right now? Honestly, I miss Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I miss Jake too.

Speaker 6 I miss Jake so much.

Speaker 1 I miss Jake and Bubba. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One, two,

Speaker 1 either or, no particular or I don't play favorites with my favorite children. But yeah, there was some talk on the plane about Billy versus Hank.

Speaker 3 We'll address that later.

Speaker 1 Again, just from me.

Speaker 6 Kansas City Chiefs minus five. Titans coming off a letdown spot.

Speaker 6 Chiefs looking good. Looked good in the second half last week.
I think people, this is where they start to turn the tide and start to re-enter that conversation of the Chiefs are back.

Speaker 1 I actually agree with that pick.

Speaker 3 I like it too for the exact same reasons. That felt like an emotional victory.

Speaker 1 How old is Derrick Henry?

Speaker 3 26.

Speaker 1 26. 27.
I thought for some reason he was a little bit older. He's one of those guys.
You know what? Another one? How old is Cooper Cup? Ooh, Cooper Cup, 28. 28 is right.

Speaker 1 For some reason, I saw a stat where like Cooper Cup has better stats than all these unbelievable receivers, which that's more modern NFL, by their 60th start.

Speaker 1 And I was like, like, Cooper Cups only had 60 starts? Feels like he's been around forever.

Speaker 3 I feel like when there's a white guy who's a receiver in the NFL, you hear his name and you're like, it sticks in your head because you're like, oh, that's the white receiver that's out there.

Speaker 3 So he's just through sheer mentioning of his name, you feel like he's been around forever.

Speaker 1 Yes. Are you worried at all, Hank, about Taylor Luan being on the Bills?

Speaker 6 No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's your pick, Chiefs. I like that pick.

Speaker 1 I do think we're due for, although the Chiefs kind of did it in the second half against the Washington football team, but we're due for a Chiefs, like, fuck shit up game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, clown.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 We're on Clown Watch.

Speaker 1 Especially off a very emotional win for the Titans.

Speaker 3 I like it. We need to find out if A.J.
Brown's butt is better yet. I haven't heard an update on that.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Your favorite.

Speaker 1 That's probably the best game in the one o'clock window. Actually, maybe Bengals Ravens, but we'll get to it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I'm going to stay with, we're going to do interim again. I think that we have to.
Rich Basicia. I think Basicia,

Speaker 3 I'm going to stay betting on the Raiders Raiders until proven otherwise. Have to.
I loved what he showed me last week. The guys came out.
They played hard.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, I'm not going to jump off that yet. I feel like the Eagles, I'm not impressed with the Eagles so far this year, even in the times that they've played well.
I feel like

Speaker 3 it's like always fleeting.

Speaker 3 When they put together a good drive that ends in a touchdown, I'm looking for the flag. 20, 30 seconds after the touchdown scored because I just can't believe that they're actually scoring touchdowns.

Speaker 1 I also would like to see a spray chart of Jalen Hurts'

Speaker 1 passes this year because I think he might lead the league in passes thrown out of bounds. Yeah.
Just off the top of my head, I feel like he does lead the league in that.

Speaker 3 What passes that he throws out of bounds?

Speaker 1 That end up out of bounds. Yes, that land out of bounds.

Speaker 3 Yes, that land out of bounds. Because he does a thing where he scrambles back into the right and then throws two yards past the six.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, we have a new stats guy who hit me up. He will probably do this for us.
I'm going to pull it up right now. Shout out Jeff Henderson.
He made a chart for us all-time

Speaker 1 all-time sad field goals. So it's pretty sad looking at it.
Like in 2005, the San Francisco 49ers were losing to your Washington football team.

Speaker 1 They were losing 52-7 with four minutes left and they kicked a field goal.

Speaker 3 I remember that game.

Speaker 3 Sean Taylor sprained his ankle in that game, had an interception.

Speaker 3 At that point, I was like, Joe Gibbs is back, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Jets were losing to the Patriots in 2016, week 16, down 41-0 in the fourth quarter, and they kicked a field goal.
That's a sad field goal. Very sad.
That's a very sad field goal.

Speaker 1 Either way, he hopefully will find us Jalen Hurts throwing out of bounds.

Speaker 1 Rich Basicia, by the way, there's multiple phases to the interim head coach. I think we have graduated.
I think we're very close to graduating to phase two, which is a distinct,

Speaker 1 we actually are a good team, and this guy's really like, this is the guy. I think we're close to Mark Davis.
Like, if they win one or two more games, Mark Davis, maybe

Speaker 1 four-year contract. Took Taylor Heineke.
Yeah, Taylor Heineke, four-year contract.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rich Besicki, a named head coach, then next year he starts 0-5 and gets fired.

Speaker 3 It could be. I think that

Speaker 3 if he wins three more games,

Speaker 3 he'll get an interview.

Speaker 3 Because I think interim head coaches are technically of minority status because there's only one of them, so that should satisfy the Rooney rules.

Speaker 1 Correct, correct.

Speaker 3 But he'll get an interview at least. Also Italian.
Also Italian. And yes.

Speaker 1 Maybe not pervert.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, if you're Italian, that does satisfy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Right.
It satisfies the pervert and the Italian coach.

Speaker 3 If you're an Italian, but you're not a pervert, then you're a minority of Italians.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 that's actually a fact. All right.

Speaker 1 My favorite is going to be the Falcons. Falcons minus two and a half.

Speaker 1 Now, listen, they're off a buy. Dolphins have to travel back from England.
They're playing right away.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of Tua fans out there. They're very, very loud.
All I'm going to ask is, don't you think that the Dolphins might not be sold on Tua if there's this much smoke about Deshaun Watson?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that doesn't matter. Don't you think?

Speaker 3 Well, Tua's an island boy.

Speaker 1 He's an island boy.

Speaker 3 I might have to become an island boy, too, because they're talking about moving him to the football team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which I did see your friend JP Finley did say that was a hard no, but we know that means nothing.

Speaker 3 It means absolutely nothing. Yeah, it's a hard no, okay, but that can turn into a very hard yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Or even a harder no, which is a yes. Yes.

Speaker 3 I think that it's like 50% that Tua ends up. Now, maybe what they're saying is they're not actively pursuing Tua, but if Tua gets offered to them for the right price, they can't turn it off.

Speaker 1 What would be the plan for Tua to get benched for Ryan 50 against Patrick? Yeah. Yes.
Well,

Speaker 3 I've convinced myself to the point where I now believe in changes of scenery for a quarterback. I'm like, all Tua needs is a fresh start, change of scenery.

Speaker 3 And then I started thinking, what are the other quarterbacks that a change of scenery has actually worked for? And the only ones I'm thinking, Ryan Tannehill, Miami, Miami,

Speaker 3 Tom Brady, great change of scene.

Speaker 1 Now he's a better quarterback than ever down in Champa Bay. That's a fact.
What's that, Hank?

Speaker 3 You just kind of screamed.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 3 Matt Stafford, he benefited too.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Garoppolo went to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 That's true. Yeah.
I mean, there aren't that many change of scenery guys, but

Speaker 3 I'm starting to get a bad guy. Played great with the Jets.
Exactly. So I'm talking myself into him.
Andy Dalton became a nicer guy with the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers next year on the Steelers. Yep.
That's going to be a great change of scenery.

Speaker 1 I root for it and I hope for it.

Speaker 3 I hate left-handed quarterbacks, as we've discussed. I think the left-hand is the devil's arm.
But at this point, I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.

Speaker 1 We've tried right-handed quarterbacks, so why not?

Speaker 3 And they haven't worked out. That was quick.
Oh, real quick.

Speaker 1 From Taylor Heineke's the guy to Tua can't be worse. No, I'm not

Speaker 1 necessarily Taylor.

Speaker 3 I'm saying we've tried a lot of right-handed quarterbacks. I know, I know, but that hasn't worked out.

Speaker 1 We've gone from the career arc of Taylor Heineke, the guy, was just a 10-day marriage. You were basically

Speaker 1 Chris Humphreys and Kim Kardashian with Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 3 No, what I did with Taylor Heineke, that's a microcosm of every Taylor Heineke game.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 3 Where it's like really good, then really, really bad. So I'm just a prisoner of the moment.
What can I say? But you do the same thing. No, I do too.

Speaker 1 Yes. But it's funny.
I mean,

Speaker 1 when I do it, you pointed out it's funny when you can step back and watch it, and you're like, wait, is that how I? Yeah, I do the same thing, but it looks dumb. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But someone else is saying, it's incredibly dumb.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, no.
I know I do the same thing, and it looks very dumb when I do it.

Speaker 1 Hank, your underdog.

Speaker 6 That was Liam's favorite as well, the Falcons. Okay.
My underdog is, I think I've been doing them all year. I'm going to keep doing it until they win.
I think they're going to win this one outright.

Speaker 3 The Detroit Lions?

Speaker 1 The Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Are you sprinkling money lines?

Speaker 6 I'm sprinkling the shit out of the money line. Heavy sprinkle, heavy pour on the money line.
Who's Salt Bay on the money line?

Speaker 1 Who's it more of a revenge game for? I think Jared.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Yeah.
Although Matt Stafford did have to, like, I mean, nine, ten years with the Lions is. It's not really revenge, though.

Speaker 6 It's more like it's almost going to make him appreciate L.A. even more.
Yeah. Whereas Jared's coming for blood.

Speaker 3 I do think that Sean McVay is going to be very intimidated in this game by Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 Sean McVay, Dan Campbell is already living rent-free inside of Sean McVay's head to the point where I would be afraid to bet against the Rams this week because he's going to pull out all the stops.

Speaker 1 Well, and Dan Campbell very well could get to the game and be like, Jared, is that the guy who hurt you? And he'd be like, yep.

Speaker 1 And he just goes up and just fucking punches him, punches through his skull.

Speaker 3 I would love to see that, except for not maybe through his skull. No, through his skull.
A fistfight.

Speaker 1 Through his skull.

Speaker 1 All right, good underdog.

Speaker 6 Jake has that as well. Jake has that as well.

Speaker 1 We'll go over all those at the end. PFT.

Speaker 3 Okay, my underdog, I actually also have the Lions.

Speaker 1 I was playing Devil's Advocate, but I've got the Lions.

Speaker 3 It's right here on my sheet.

Speaker 1 So many points.

Speaker 3 My entire thing is it's so many points. So many.
It's a lot of points.

Speaker 3 The Lions, they're professional players, too. They get paid to play in the National Football League.
They're big boys.

Speaker 3 It's not like if you look at two mismatched high school teams playing against each other or even in college, you're like, getting off the bus, that team's way better.

Speaker 3 The Detroit Lions have big guys that play football for them. They got guys too.

Speaker 3 I'm counting on the big guys on the Lions being better today than the big guys on the Rams, or at least not 15.5 points worse than them.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to probably regret this one, but I am going to take the Bengals plus six and a half against the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I don't hate it.

Speaker 1 This is a good game, though, because I'm very excited for this game because it essentially decides, like, if the Ravens do again what they did to the Chargers, to the Bengals, they're like, all right, now it's the AFC.

Speaker 1 Like, the AFC, it's the Ravens. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 But if the Bengals can keep this close or possibly win this game, they are officially elevated to a good team, playoff team. And I think they're right there.
I think their defense is played very well.

Speaker 3 The Bengals are going to be a team that you're going to be shocked to see in the hunt graphic until maybe the very last weekend.

Speaker 1 So I'm taking the bengals i think the bengals can keep this close i don't i don't know about win but they can keep it close two coaches with we when you combine them have an exactly average size collar yes yes that's true um all right

Speaker 1 hank you're over

Speaker 1 my over is going to be sunday night football oh do you know about the weather

Speaker 6 Are we doing this again? I'm just asking. I don't.

Speaker 6 The answer is no.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ, I'm just trying to be a friend.

Speaker 3 Oh, you know what? This is going to be another one of those games at San Francisco where Collinsworth does the slide, and it's going to be bright as hell outside. I hate that.

Speaker 3 I hate it when Sunday night football starts out when it's daylight. It's not Sunday afternoon.
It's not Sunday boozy brunch football. It's Sunday night football.

Speaker 1 Okay, you might be lucky, though, because it might be dark overcast. I'm looking at it right now.
Let's find it. 10-day weather.

Speaker 6 By the way, I was dead on at my weather. You know, you guys haven't given me credit for the wind picking on factories.

Speaker 3 No, you were very right about the wind. I gave you credit.

Speaker 1 There was a gust. It was 25.6, so I didn't have to suck your dick.
All right, Sunday night,

Speaker 1 potential for flooding rains, winds southwest 10 to 20 miles an hour, chance of rain, 100%. Rainfall may reach one inch.

Speaker 3 Flooding rains doesn't sound good.

Speaker 1 It doesn't sound good.

Speaker 1 You can pick whatever you want. I'm trying to help you.
All I know is that I had the visualization when I was made aware of the weather.

Speaker 1 Just think for a second of Carson Wentz covered head to toe in mud.

Speaker 6 But wait, that would be where he thrives.

Speaker 3 The over is 44. Right.
So it's pretty low.

Speaker 1 Right. But I'm just saying, Carson Wentz covered in mud.
He's got the white uniform on. Like, I'm talking about fourth play of the game.
He's already been sacked.

Speaker 1 He's got, like, maybe half of, he looks like

Speaker 1 a half moon cake where half of his body is just covered in mud.

Speaker 3 I actually think he's going to get a shitload of turf stuck in his face mask. Yup, yes.
That's what's going to happen with him.

Speaker 3 And you know what? I don't think that his linemen like him enough to come over and pick the turf out of his face mask. He's going to have to be doing it by himself.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Or like walk over and get the guy that catches the ball for the quarterbacks when they get their arms warmed up. That guy's going to have to pick it out.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm switching.

Speaker 6 Over 43. Panthers Giants.
There we go.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, can you also officially...

Speaker 6 I don't like what you just did, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, then keep it.
No, no.

Speaker 3 Hank was going to ride with a San Francisco

Speaker 1 and do it. Just take it away from him.
Can you also put a mental note?

Speaker 1 I think I picked the Colts in the Advisors, but that was when I didn't know there was rain, and I had the visualization of Carson Wentz being completely covered head-to-toe in mud, so please switch that for me.

Speaker 3 But here's another visualization. Just on the graphics, just say Niners.
Debo Samuel covered in mud means he's scoring like four touchdowns, just running through everybody. That's true.

Speaker 1 So please, can you just have a graphic that says he switched to the Niners? Stamp it on my forehead.

Speaker 1 I guess. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 I made the official switch just now. All right, we're going to put in that audio.

Speaker 6 This is going to be crazy if you watch Advisors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 Okay. We're going to put the audio that you just said

Speaker 6 into the show.

Speaker 1 Perfect. All right.
PFT, you're over. So you're over is Carolina, New York.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 My over is going to be

Speaker 3 my over is going to be the Washington football team and the Panthers or Packers. Every week, we go away and the artists formerly known as the Redskins.

Speaker 1 Every week we go into this Friday show and I'm so confident and then I always end up like one in five and I'm just like, what went wrong?

Speaker 3 You talk yourself out of everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, so this over, I like it.

Speaker 3 I love this over. I think that both defenses kind of stink.
The Packers defense shows up occasionally, but I'm still not a believer in them.

Speaker 3 And yeah, Aaron Rodgers coming off an emotional victory

Speaker 3 against the Bears. And I was thinking about it, since I'm an owner of the Packers, I also now kind of own a piece of the Bears.

Speaker 1 Do you think they'll, but do the Packers own Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 3 They're just leasing him. No, they, okay, so

Speaker 3 I have equity in Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 I have stock in him, but I don't O-word him.

Speaker 3 I'm banking on some points this weekend, and I have an announcement to make about my Washington football team fandom. Oh, okay, yes, please.

Speaker 3 So last week I talked to you guys about the Sean Taylor thing. Yep.
And it pissed me off because what they ended up doing with it is they announced it four days before the Jersey retirement.

Speaker 1 Suss.

Speaker 3 Which... Sounds sus.

Speaker 1 It's what they've done.

Speaker 3 Here's what sucks. It's what they've done for every single marketing marketing initiative that they've done this year.

Speaker 3 Like when they had Breast Cancer Awareness Week earlier in October, they announced it on that Monday or that Tuesday.

Speaker 1 That's different than that.

Speaker 3 But my problem is Sean Taylor is not a theme week. Correct.
Sean Taylor is a man who died, who got shot, who meant a lot to Washington football fans.

Speaker 3 When you denigrate his memory in the interest of a marketing initiative, you lose me. Yes.
You lose me entirely. So you're done.
So I am, my announcement is I am officially on my last straw.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Washington football team. Last straw.
In fact, I went out and I bought a straw. What is it?

Speaker 1 I have a straw. How thick?

Speaker 3 What's a normal size straw? And I also bought a camel cigarette. So it will be, I don't know if it should be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Yeah. Or I think it's just a straw.

Speaker 1 I have a straw.

Speaker 3 I own a straw now, and it's my last one with the football team.

Speaker 1 They must be nervous. They're very nervous.

Speaker 3 Because this is at the highest level for the organization.

Speaker 1 The last straw.

Speaker 3 The last straw with the Washington football team.

Speaker 1 Can they get two straws back? I don't.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they can improve their straw quantity.

Speaker 1 Their holdings?

Speaker 3 Yes, they can. But right now, they are literally on their last straw.
Damn. If it gets

Speaker 3 anything bad happens to the point where I lose faith in this organization again.

Speaker 3 What? What, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what else could they do? Hank, I'm bearing my soul.

Speaker 3 I'm bearing my soul to you guys.

Speaker 6 Their only good player is dead, and they fucked up his retirement ceremony.

Speaker 1 There's no last straw. There's no more sounds.
There's nothing else they could do.

Speaker 3 Hank, in their defense, the team has been such shit for the last 30 years. We don't exactly have a lot of practice retiring jerseys of good players.

Speaker 3 Last straw. Hasn't really been a problem for you.

Speaker 1 Listen, last straw.

Speaker 3 Last straw. I'm on my last straw.
You know what? I am on my last straw.

Speaker 1 TFT, am I allowed to join you? Yeah, are you on the last straw? I'm on the last straw. Hank? I'm on the last straw.

Speaker 1 Do we have to get straws? Yes, we do. We have to have three straws.

Speaker 1 I'm joining you in your fight.

Speaker 3 We're on our last straws.

Speaker 1 I will wait for your word and I will snap my straw.

Speaker 6 I'm already out on them until they pick a fucking mascot.

Speaker 3 So you're without a straw. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 3 you're looking, I can give you my straw.

Speaker 6 Yeah, once they get a mascot, though, I'll straw it up. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 I'll be like, I got two straws out of the three of us here. I just, I'm just, I'm very, I'm angrier than I've ever been

Speaker 3 at the Washington football team.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Yeah, I am.

Speaker 3 Why are you laughing about this, Angel?

Speaker 1 Dude, I'm being a good friend right now.

Speaker 3 You've won a million Super Bowls in the last four years. Why are you mad? Why are you laughing at me?

Speaker 1 It's called being a good friend. If PFT is on his last straw, I'm on my last straw.
Now you just can't leave Washington football team because you got both of us mad.

Speaker 3 I'm actually starting to think that Hank likes the fact that we're on our last straw.

Speaker 6 No, you just like, you just keep getting cheated on.

Speaker 1 You're like, well, yeah, no, it'll be fine. Yeah, no, it's okay.

Speaker 3 They just said this time it will be different. They just got to work.

Speaker 1 They got a long work retreat. I probably wasn't doing a good enough job as a fan to make them be loyal to me.
You know what? I'll just, I got to lose 10 pounds and then they'll love me back. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I'm taking the over. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. My over, I'm going to go with Bears Bucks.

Speaker 1 I have, every week is the same for me, where Monday I'm down in the dumps, and then by the end of the week, I start talking to myself and figuring out ways the Bears could possibly win this game.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't think they're going to win this game, but I have told myself the Bucs secondary sucks. This will be Justin Fields' coming-out party.
Now, can they stop the Bucs?

Speaker 1 I do not know, but the over. So, what is it?

Speaker 1 47. Boom.

Speaker 3 I'm on the opposite side of that.

Speaker 1 Okay, you're on the under. Yeah, I just think

Speaker 3 Nagy is a, he's got the Bucs number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. He does.
Yeah, so I think Shabiski had his best game, six touchdowns against the Bucs. We beat the Bucs last year.

Speaker 3 That was when it was, what, 65 degrees exactly? Yep. We own the Bucs.
Yeah, so I think that they're going to frustrate Tom. Okay.

Speaker 3 The Bucs are still going to win, but he's going to be frustrated after the game. But Justin Fields is going to have a coming-out party.
Maybe coming out party.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Your under.

Speaker 6 That is my under. Thanks for coming out.

Speaker 1 Perfect Fields. Perfect.
So you guys both have that under. Yeah.
All right. Good to see you.
My under is going to be,

Speaker 1 I'll do the Patriots Jets minus under 42.5. It's probably a safe bet.
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think Zach Wilson, I think the Patriots are going to be like, if they could play the Jets every week, it'd be great.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make Zach Wilson look bad again.

Speaker 6 I'm concerned. You are.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So the good news for you, Hank, is I think that Belichick went into this season making a very obvious decision that this year is where it's a development year.

Speaker 3 And so the way that he's coaching right now, I saw a stat the other day. I don't have it in front of me, but he is basically the most conservative coach in the NFL when it comes to

Speaker 3 punt, when it comes to deciding what place to call him third down.

Speaker 6 Throwing the ball. Throwing the ball.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 he is the most conservative of all the coaches.

Speaker 3 So like that tells me that Belichick, obviously, he's got enough cred in the organization where he won't be like, you know, on the hot seat this year, where he can have these developmental years of Mac Joe.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 1 That's good. He's right.
I am making sense.

Speaker 3 I'm making sense where he's going to have...

Speaker 6 I've never thought about it like that.

Speaker 3 He's going to have at least two or three years to bring him along. But he's like, he's swung so far in the opposite direction.

Speaker 1 Are you guys going to bet the under in the Bucs Bears game? Yeah. Yeah.
I don't want to be on the opposite of that. I'm going to switch my over.
I'm going to do 49ers Colts over 44.

Speaker 1 I'll stay with the Bears. All right, the picks from the other guys.
So

Speaker 1 let's see.

Speaker 1 Jake has the Packers as his favorite. Detroit, too many points.
He has the over and the Bucs Bears with me, and he has Atlanta, Miami under 47.5. Liam has Falcons as his favorite.

Speaker 1 Giants as his underdog. Bengals, Ravens, over.
Chiefs, Titans under.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 Liam, I don't know if this is maybe a colorblindness thing, but he has the Chiefs, Titans under 47.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to give him the 57.

Speaker 1 But that's a ballsy play by him under 47.

Speaker 1 He took the alternate line. And then Billy has the Bucs minus 12.5.
He's marking that as a win. The Jets plus seven.
He's marking that as a loss.

Speaker 1 The Titans, Chiefs over 57, he's marking that as a win. And the Bengals, Ravens under 46, he's marking that as a loss.

Speaker 6 He did go 2-2 last week. He did.

Speaker 1 So that's the Billy match.

Speaker 3 I'm looking at the Chiefs, Titans. Those are two teams that can put up points.
Yes. And then you look at 57, that's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 And Liam was like, I like it at 47.

Speaker 1 That's how much he likes it.

Speaker 3 I mean, Billy's kind of a sharp, let's be honest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If Liam, if that game goes under 47, I will personally give Liam something nice. That's a back rub.
Yeah, no, I'll buy him something. I'll buy him some shoes.
Shoes that he wants.

Speaker 1 Any shoes that he wants to a certain price if that game goes under 47. All right.
Should we do

Speaker 1 Island Boys?

Speaker 3 Fantasy Island Boys.

Speaker 1 Do we need to have a disclaimer that this is we're mocking Chet Hanks and the Island Boys?

Speaker 3 We're doing an impression of the Island Boys.

Speaker 6 And yeah, what are the Island Boys? Maybe there's people who aren't on the internet that know what

Speaker 1 you explain it.

Speaker 1 I don't really know.

Speaker 3 They're two brothers.

Speaker 6 There's a viral video of these two kids.

Speaker 1 The island boys.

Speaker 6 They have like Kodak black hair, like the crazy braids. Bart Simpson.
Bart Simpson.

Speaker 3 They're two white kids.

Speaker 6 And they're singing a freestyle about them being the Island Boys. Big Cat has been...
quite literally singing it

Speaker 6 for the entire week. For four days.

Speaker 3 I'm just Island Boys.

Speaker 1 We're the Florida boys. We got a vest on.
So, yeah, this is a... And also little Chet Hanks.

Speaker 1 I'm drawing inspiration from Chet Hanks.

Speaker 3 I always always draw inspiration from Chet Hanks.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, ready?

Speaker 1 My name is Ganja Guatemala. Who is an island boy? Who died? Drop, drop.
My start

Speaker 1 is fully age.

Speaker 1 It's that time of year,

Speaker 1 unless you're on an island.

Speaker 1 Island boy. My sit-um is

Speaker 1 hunting whales.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 we are island boys.

Speaker 1 We we should let the whales live nice

Speaker 1 right by the beach my sleeper

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 jock peterson

Speaker 1 oh your charizo's back

Speaker 1 mlcs mvp congrats on going to the world series yeah brave

Speaker 1 bravo

Speaker 1 blue pot you're a fat fuck boy boy boy

Speaker 1 What up, blood?

Speaker 1 This blue tank hex

Speaker 3 fantasy island boy. I'm starting Rugby.

Speaker 1 Rugby. VG.
Oh, you're talking like the islands. You're talking like the beast now, boy.

Speaker 3 2 FedEx in FedEx, Maryland.

Speaker 1 This is going to get us canceled.

Speaker 3 Hank, you got to put some banging ass music.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to really spice this up. I'm sitting NBA.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting NBA Clunt Dune.

Speaker 3 Because did you see Stephen A. Smith's tweet? Stephen A.
Smith.

Speaker 3 He tweeted out, get ready for NBA Clunt Deune.

Speaker 3 C-L-U-N-T-D-I-W-N. Which sounds a lot like just a guy from Philadelphia saying, count that clinkdune.

Speaker 1 My sleeper is Kawhi. Kawaii.
Kwai is an island. Island.
Island boy. Island boy.

Speaker 3 Kawhi's got an album coming out at midnight tonight. So

Speaker 3 Kwawai. I'm sure it'll be great.
Sure. Just

Speaker 3 pouring his heart and soul into it.

Speaker 1 Big fire.

Speaker 1 All right. What's up, boys? It's Champaille.
We're in Denver. Island.

Speaker 1 My star-um is Justin Fields. He's an island boy down in Florida.

Speaker 1 Lord, I'm working. He's gonna have a coming out party.
My syndom is tattoos because I saw the island boys and now I don't want to teach a tattoo anymore. It was a mech.

Speaker 1 And my sleeper, Brian Laundrie, you fucking bitch. You are sleeping in the swamp, bitch.

Speaker 1 All right. They call it murder.

Speaker 6 That's a one and done.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to really boost that. No clips.

Speaker 3 No clips of that one, Carl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no social clips of that one. We tried and we failed, but we can say that.

Speaker 3 I thought it was a good attempt.

Speaker 1 It was a valiant attempt.

Speaker 3 Listen, you got to take shots in comedy. You can't play it safe.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 Was that comedy? Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's comedy the same way that when people get up on stage and say things that the audience agrees with and they clap. That's comedy, too.

Speaker 1 By the way, Brian Laundrie, they did confirm that was his teeth. So fuck you, you dead bitch.

Speaker 3 Fuck you, Brian Laundry.

Speaker 1 Dog probably caught him.

Speaker 3 So, yeah. I mean, dog.

Speaker 3 Smoked him out.

Speaker 1 Also, I'm really excited for the rest of the internet to spend the next three years saying that I already saw

Speaker 1 under the FBI saying they found the dental records of Brian Laundrie, people being like, that's bullshit. Well, how could he have decomposed already in four weeks in the swamp?

Speaker 1 Well, pretty easily. And people saying that he's still alive somewhere.
He just pulled his teeth out, threw him in the swamp, and now he's in Mexico.

Speaker 3 They probably figured out ways to check beyond just like this.

Speaker 1 Well, I'd say so.

Speaker 3 But I'm kind of on board with Brian Laundrie still alive and living in Argentina.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's going to be, there's going to be a sect of the internet that is just going to go chase that for the next five years. So good luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Eventually we're going to have Brian Laundries coming back from the dead and he's going to be named vice president.

Speaker 3 Nobody out there, I'm telling you right now, do not under any circumstances go as Brian Laundry for Halloween.

Speaker 1 Do not.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone needs that disclaimer.

Speaker 3 There are some people thinking about it right now.

Speaker 1 No, he's a fucking scumbag, rotten hell.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview with Bill Burr, and then we got the beast coming up right after, and then we got Firefest.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests. It is Bill Burr.
He has just announced he's back. He's officially back.
He's touring. It's actually Bill Burr parentheses, slight return.

Speaker 1 So it's a slight return.

Speaker 3 Is that a Jimi Hendrix thing?

Speaker 7 Slash, how we might be in quarantine by the time these stupid dates come out. So I'm saying I'm back, but who the hell knows?

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 You're setting the parameters here that you're returning. It's a slight return.
It's 23 cents.

Speaker 7 What I'm doing is hedging my bets. I'm blaming my offensive line.
before the game even starts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not to make excuses, but here's an excuse just in case.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's perfect.

Speaker 1 So go buy tickets now. They're on sale.
23 different cities. I was looking at the

Speaker 1 list of places you're going, and I noticed one. I circled one.
You're going to Saratoga while obviously the races are going on in August. Have you been to the track in Saratoga?

Speaker 7 No, I've been to the Kentucky Derby, so I haven't gone to that one.

Speaker 7 I got to figure that out because the Kentucky Derby, you know, well, that was a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Put it that way. That was a good time.
Yes. Saratoga is a a great, great town, especially when the horse racing is going on.
So you definitely have to do that. But it's good that you're back.

Speaker 1 It feels like this is the start of, you know, normal coming back. Bill Burr's back on the road.

Speaker 7 I mean, I hope so. We'll see.
We'll see what happens. It seems like, I think we're just going to live with COVID.
I've given up on everybody, you know, jumping on one side or the other.

Speaker 7 We now have like, I don't know how many 24-hour news networks to drive everybody in different directions. We got podcasts.
We got,

Speaker 7 we got, we got, I don't know, town criers.

Speaker 7 Everybody's got a voice now. So divided locker room as COVID hangs.
That's my prediction. And I think we're just going to work around it.

Speaker 3 I feel like everybody has

Speaker 3 kind of chosen their lane by this point. And they're just getting further and further entrenched.
I don't think anybody's getting more moderate as this goes on.

Speaker 7 No, the internet has become like a bunch of towny bars. And you're okay as long as you agree with everybody in that bar.

Speaker 7 And, you know, if you don't, they all look at you and they try to drive you out. It's really

Speaker 7 a low point.

Speaker 7 Low point. And I think the internet should be shut down or at least monitored.
You got to somehow,

Speaker 7 like I've been doing this bit about incels, that, you know, a bunch of people who don't know how to talk to women.

Speaker 7 talk to a bunch of other people don't know how to talk to women and in the end they're all blaming women rather than somebody just coming in there and being like dude you guys are just in a slump yeah you know Shoot your shot.

Speaker 7 Yeah, shoot a shot.

Speaker 7 Go after something with a limp. Anything.

Speaker 7 Get yourself out of the slump. There's no reason to get this angry and ruin everybody's lives.
But you get a bunch of morons, and next thing you know, they're all talking.

Speaker 7 They think the world is flat, which was not even a debate for the first 48 years of my life.

Speaker 7 And now there's like people with driver's licenses and they vote and stuff, and they're absolutely convinced that it's a giant cereal ball with an ice ball right around it.

Speaker 3 They use technology every day, GPS, that proves that the world's not flat. But then they're, you know, everyone likes to think that they know something more than somebody else.

Speaker 3 You know, everyone likes to think that they're in on something that all these other sheep out there don't even know about. Billy is actually a number one target of the incel community.

Speaker 3 Our intern, our former intern here, he's terrified that they're going to kill him because he thinks he gets laid so much that the incels are

Speaker 1 jealous of it.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, they'll start saying he's getting all the pussy they should be getting.

Speaker 1 He's taking too much yeah exactly yeah i thought nice guys yeah i thought nice guys had a chance it is funny because it is the the entire internet uh exists uh where basically everyone starts liking something and then they talk to each other so much about it they end up hating the thing they like and similar to like the incels being like we hate women which is is crazy just go and talk to one and i'm sure it will be okay i also

Speaker 7 damn books on how to talk to women yeah but read those before you sit around and talk to somebody else It's like, I'm hitting 190. How do I stay in the MLB? I'm hitting 192.
Let's exchange notes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 My favorite new town bar, if we're using that analogy for the internet, is now whenever there is someone who passes away, there immediately is, did he have his vaccine? Did he have COVID?

Speaker 1 Which shot was it a good death or a bad death? We need to categorize it. It's not this person died.
It's sad. It's, well, how can I make this death part of my uh entire data points here?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think your brand is what the word you're looking for.

Speaker 7 How can I brand this person's death that I have no emotional connection with to increase my followers so I can become an influencer?

Speaker 1 And the best one is: if you look, whenever it's, I mean, it's sad when people die, people die. That's people have been dying since the beginning of time.

Speaker 1 But the first reply is always,

Speaker 1 R.I.P., just a quick question. Were they vaccinated?

Speaker 1 That's like instantly right after their death.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 I'm going to respect you during this time. Well, now I'm not going to and ask you, how did they die?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, I clearly said RIP. So that, you know, the follow-up question is allowed.
Are they in quality?

Speaker 7 Well, you know, I look at it this way. I thought AIDS was going to take us out considering once it got into the heterosexual community, then it was kind of everywhere.
And it was like, all right,

Speaker 7 you get this through having sex.

Speaker 7 People aren't going to to stop having sex we're finished and they were able to get in front of that so thank god for the egghead doctors out there and chemist whatever you call them the researchers with the microscopes um that did stuff beyond looking at ants like i did underneath them you know who actually know what they're doing because i think they'll figure it out eventually but i don't see anytime soon and i gotta be honest with you i don't give a shit anymore yeah i'm kind of with you i'm like it It's gotten to a point where I just can't be bothered to care about this stuff anymore, where it's like, okay, this has gone on for long enough.

Speaker 3 I'm just going to try to live my life and do things that I want to do and try to do them safely.

Speaker 3 Have you noticed that people that are coming out to your shows now are like, they've got like pent up laughter that they're waiting to let out?

Speaker 3 Are they laughing at even the bad jokes that you're telling?

Speaker 7 No, because a lot of the states that I have been going to lately, I don't think ever fully embraced that there was COVID.

Speaker 7 I mean, so, but I mean, I think people just like,

Speaker 7 it seems to be if you mask up and you're vaccinated, you're max up, you're going to be all right. You know, it seems to be.
I mean, I've been out there with no mask on in front of all of these people.

Speaker 7 And,

Speaker 7 you know, I'm more than six feet apart. So I've been all right.
I don't know,

Speaker 7 but I just know that, you know, they're trying to come up with solutions.

Speaker 7 And no matter what solution they come up with, there's going to be a whole other group of people going like, no, actually, there's a microchip in that. And this, that, and the other thing.

Speaker 7 And it's just like, there's just, I actually think that there's a lot of people out there. They're not necessarily uh

Speaker 7 just dumb i just think that they had control of their life

Speaker 7 you know those people where they they're they're sort of like the the the big fish there and everyone they got all these other fish swimming around them and they sort of call the shots they're like the elvis of their little world right and everybody else is in their entourage i feel like this thing with their sense of control So their way to get their control back is to rebel against it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 there was this one person. I can't give too much detail or my wife will kill me.

Speaker 7 But I branded this person an egomaniac like six years ago. And my wife, of course, just thought it's Bill being a jerk again.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 when this stuff first hit,

Speaker 7 oh, God, how do I tell this story? Let's just say we were going in for an appointment and they were saying, just to let you know, this person is not wearing a mask. And we were like, at the office?

Speaker 7 And they were like, no not at all and i was like i

Speaker 7 told you i told you that person was way too old to have a purple streak in their hair it's like you're in your 50s what are you rebelling against 60 year olds you are the establishment yeah i i just

Speaker 7 i'm telling you I'm telling you, it was one of the greatest moments in COVID for me was when I proved that person was a fucking egomaniac.

Speaker 1 Those are the best, though, the takes that aren't even said out loud on a platform. And you know, like the private takes, like I knew that guy sucked.

Speaker 1 And you might only tell it to your wife or like a couple close friends, but and you can't get the satisfaction of everyone being like, oh, you were right. But that private satisfaction is incredible.

Speaker 7 Dude, I was in the waiting room, and the person said, I was texting on silence, said, you can't text in here. Just had to have undivided attention.

Speaker 7 I was just like, my God.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 7 I've seen people with their own sitcoms act nicer than you.

Speaker 1 Being over it, though,

Speaker 1 I think we're all, the three of us are pretty similar in the fact that we have the wherewithal to realize part of the reason why we're over it is like the old bread and circus in like Roman times.

Speaker 1 Like, if you give us sports back and you let us go to dinner every now and then, we can pretty much deal with anything. Like,

Speaker 1 we're cool. We're cool.
Yeah, I'll wear a mask.

Speaker 7 I don't give a shit.

Speaker 7 I don't care.

Speaker 7 Take the facts. Don't take it.
I don't give a shit anymore. You win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's funny being like

Speaker 1 part of like the feeble-minded, but having the wherewithal to be like, oh, yeah, I am that guy, where it's like, just let me watch 14 hours of NFL on Sunday, and you won't hear many complaints out of me.

Speaker 7 Exactly. Well, that was my thing.
Some woman got mad at me because I was making fun that they were bringing that pink stuff back in the NFL.

Speaker 7 And of course, she's just acting like I don't care about people with cancer and like I've never had people die, friends, die.

Speaker 7 My thing is like, that is my four quarters to get away from 24-hour news networks, tragedy, and all of this shit.

Speaker 7 And over the years, they've, they've just turned after, they've just sort of so inundated you with depressing shit on 24-hour news networks, people stopped watching it.

Speaker 7 I think more people watching sports. So now that shit is like leaking in to like sports where it's like, you know, 108, 107.
By the way, this person lost a leg.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Tragedy.

Speaker 7 He's just like,

Speaker 7 can I just have four quarters?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And then

Speaker 1 I started thinking about this.

Speaker 3 I was curious to get your take on how the NFL has been going this year in terms of the roughing the passer penalties because I know that you are obviously a big safety first guy. And, you know,

Speaker 3 you want to see all the players get out there and maybe not even hit each other hard. So I was curious to know what you thought about if you saw the Kyler Murray roughing the passer last week.

Speaker 7 If you've been paying attention to any of that, no, I mean, that's been going on since Brady and Peyton Manning way back in the day once they they so

Speaker 7 made so many rules you know i i feel like what happened with all four sports was they reached maximum density sports fans so then in order to get casual fans scoring is what gets them it's like soccer if the games are like nine to eight america would be watching yes and then maybe eventually get into the beauty of the game and understand it but the first thing that's going to get you there is the long ball so i think once they made all those rules where every year, you know, some fucking, you know,

Speaker 7 half-ass QB is threatening Dan Marino's 1984 season, it seems, every year,

Speaker 7 they became the superstars. And

Speaker 7 I think their ratings went down when quarterbacks got hurt and people didn't want to watch the game. So they just started protecting them.
more so than they ever did. And

Speaker 7 I don't know. I mean, it's hard to bitch about it when you see these guys that you love growing up and they're having problems, cognitive issues and all that.

Speaker 7 And the NFL is allegedly fucking with their pay. They won't even give them the piddly sum that they said they were going to.

Speaker 7 So I get it on the long run, but as far as like, you know, being a football fan, I think it's, you know, it's not as fun as it used to be.

Speaker 1 Well, and I think in a cynical sense,

Speaker 1 the protecting of the quarterbacks is like a strategy by the NFL. And this might not actually be what they're trying to do, but I think it's what's happening in the long-term range.

Speaker 1 It's like when you talk about cognitive issues, CTE, the NFL dealing with all that stuff, the biggest like crisis the NFL would have in the future is a big-time quarterback that is like the face of a franchise because we feel like we know the quarterbacks more than we know an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman.

Speaker 1 So like if Peyton Manning was like having trouble cognitively, I think that would be another crisis for the NFL.

Speaker 1 So whether they're doing it on purpose to protect the quarterbacks that way or not, I don't know. But there could be like a cynical view of it.
It's like they know the one guy

Speaker 1 that can't

Speaker 7 always choose his money. Yeah.
It's always been about the money. If they actually cared about the players, they would have addressed this issue decades ago.

Speaker 7 You know, it's a corporation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 They're going to pour shit in the water supply. Oh, wait, hang on a second.
I got to get rid of this.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 7 end and accept decline. That's the button.

Speaker 3 Jesus.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's great to have football back with fans. All of it is awesome.
If we want to do the random text I get from Bill Burr, last time we brought you

Speaker 1 cornerback celebrating. This time I got a random text from Bill.
I think it was like two or three weeks ago, and he just said, am I to believe?

Speaker 1 Kentucky has a solid football team. It was completely out of the blue.

Speaker 1 There's no

Speaker 1 conversation going on.

Speaker 1 One Saturday afternoon, Bill just texted me that. I was like, yeah, they actually are very, very solid.
I think solid is a perfect word.

Speaker 1 They're not great.

Speaker 7 They're my go-to guy with a few obscure things.

Speaker 7 Each sports fan,

Speaker 7 I'm like, who do I think is going to give me either the right answer? Or who do I think, you know, if I just want someone to agree with me, I have like different people that I text.

Speaker 1 And like you,

Speaker 7 like, you know, you moved up the draft on the draft day. You moved up when you stormed out of Michigan, the big house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, chicken shit football.

Speaker 7 Chicken shit football, repeating that over and over again when Wisconsin was losing to them. I just, the image of that was so funny to me.

Speaker 7 And then just the passion that you left the big house, having a good time, having drinks, could not sit there and stomach watching your own team lose.

Speaker 7 Despite the money you spent there. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It was punting from Michigan's 40-yard line. That's chicken shit football.
I'm not going to invest any more time in it. We actually talked about it on Monday's show.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw the Lions and Bengals game, but we were talking about the sad field goal. There's nothing worse in sports than when your team does a sad field goal.

Speaker 1 The Lions were down 27-0 with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, and they kicked a field goal. And it's just the most defeating thing that can possibly happen.

Speaker 1 They cut it to a 24-point game, and you're just like, okay, this is.

Speaker 7 Well, they didn't get shut out. They got enough enough goose eggs on the board with them.
I don't know. I'm not of that Madden football where like, you know, everybody's like, go for it, go for it.

Speaker 7 Like the way football coaches call games now is the way us drunks used to be yelling, making the same decisions in the upper deck. Like, go for it, fake punt.

Speaker 7 But what's funny is, is you're finding that

Speaker 7 it's not as risky. as everybody thought.
I think nowadays with how the field is just so much more opened up.

Speaker 7 But like if it was like fourth and and two, the whole time I was growing up, nobody ever went. Yeah.
Nobody ever went. That was like a mile for some reason.

Speaker 7 But now, you know, I don't know, the West Coast offense, spread offense, I'm not good with that stuff. Whatever.
There's like five, there's like one running back or like no running back.

Speaker 7 I think he can get two yards at that level, it seems.

Speaker 3 It takes coaches like probably two generations to catch up to what math says about any given subject.

Speaker 3 So like once people started to get smart about the numbers, it took some of the younger guys to get into the NFL as like assistants, maybe just like offensive analysts, and start having them work their way up the chain until they got actually to a position of influence where they could tell the coach, like, hey, you're actually 50% more likely to win the game if you don't punt on fourth and one from the 40-yard line.

Speaker 3 You know, it's like stuff that you, I think people learn by playing video games, obviously.

Speaker 1 No, absolutely. Lane Kiffen coaches like someone plays Madden.
Where it's like

Speaker 1 anything that's not fourth and like 15, he's like, fuck it, I'm going for it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and you're coaches are also, the big thing is they were just afraid of getting fired.

Speaker 7 Like, if you go for it, doesn't Lane Kiffen get a new job every like two, three years?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's also like playing Madden, right? Where you just keep changing teams.

Speaker 3 Coaches don't get fired anymore unless they call the commissioner a pussy, in which case, like, that's the one thing that you can't do.

Speaker 3 But if you're a college coach and you're going for it, it's tough to punish a guy for being too aggressive because we've learned that if you're being too aggressive, it just means that you want to win.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 Well, I think there's some happy medium between the analytics and then also actually coaching and knowing your team. Because analytics and numbers is also why the Seahawks lost to the Patriots.

Speaker 7 Because that play the whole year, the worst it was, was an incomplete.

Speaker 7 And that's some other high percentage, it was a touchdown, except on that play that lost in the Super Bowl and it was an interception.

Speaker 7 So, I mean, what wasn't in the analytics was Bill Belichick knowing about that play and

Speaker 7 having everybody practice it. So,

Speaker 7 I don't know. Sometimes analytics makes sense, sometimes it doesn't, but I love stats and stuff.
And

Speaker 7 I don't know. And there's something funny to me that like mathletes can figure out how to coach a game better than like, you know, some, you know,

Speaker 7 square-jawed football guy. Speaking of which, Ed Oseron.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, is the guy supposed to fucking recruit a Joe Burrow every other year?

Speaker 1 He was just too horny. He got fired for being horny.
Here's, here's my, so I've had a couple days to process it because we love Coach Coach O. We've had him on the show a bunch.

Speaker 1 We interviewed him right, it was one of the best moments of our lives right after the national championship that you were at. We got to interview Joe Burrow and Coach O the next morning.

Speaker 1 We were still blackout drunk interviewing them.

Speaker 1 Great, great guy. I think he's beloved.
He will be beloved when we have a little perspective. I do think the LSU fan base wanted him out this year because LSU is one of those schools.

Speaker 1 There's like probably three or four schools in the entire country where if you have two bad seasons in a row, they want you gone. And like, that's just SEC football.

Speaker 1 That's just what the culture is where it's like, you can't, they can't stomach those two bad seasons because you're just supposed to win all the time at LSU. But I just, I, I respect the coach.

Speaker 7 Tell me, also, Nick Sabin puts a lot of pressure on everybody in that conference.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he reached the pinnacle and he had it, you know, he lived.

Speaker 1 He should be remembered for having one of the best college football teams of all time, putting it all together, hiring Joe Brady when he was kind of an unknown, getting Joe Burrow, 15-0, and then maybe enjoying it for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 I do think that what Big Cat's saying about Nick Saban compared to Cocho, in a way, is actually very correct. It's like Nick Saban is a psychopath.

Speaker 3 He is a fucking weird guy to be this driven after all these years. He doesn't even like winning.

Speaker 3 He just loves the fact that he's not currently losing.

Speaker 3 He's a total psycho, great football coach, probably the best of all time in college football. But as a human being, he's fucking nuts.

Speaker 7 What the hell is his name? Your health steak. I always forget his name.
Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer.
The guy was almost ready to do a face plant into his penny loafers.

Speaker 7 I mean, he looked like the guy, like when the strippers leading him to the ATM, just cleaning out his pockets. The guy, where was his buddies? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Then what I love is the woman who knows he's married and coming up and backing her ass up onto his dick. She gets no shit at all.

Speaker 1 She got a little. But yeah, no,

Speaker 7 they're protected like NFL quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's that whole story was fucking insane.
But I just think

Speaker 1 the coach.

Speaker 7 What about the rat that filmed it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, wouldn't you, if I was in the ball and bar, I'd be like, oh, man, he's getting after it tonight. You hate to see it.
You hate to see it. You just laughing, going like,

Speaker 7 you know, the guy's in a drunken stupor.

Speaker 7 I mean, you're going to, that's how you're going to judge the guy in that moment after, I don't know how many Moscow mules the guy had.

Speaker 3 Well, maybe he's a Michigan fan that filmed it. Face down in the peanuts?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Celebrating 0-5. But the thing with Coach O.

Speaker 7 Helcome, that chick isn't a predator when he got that hammered, and all of a sudden she sees her moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's, I mean, he kept his hands to himself, sort of.

Speaker 1 But Coach O, one last thing. So his career, if you look at it, he is like the, he's the people's champ because every time he's had like a big moment, a peak, he's then fallen back down.

Speaker 1 So it's a roller coaster. You know, he got hired at Ole Miss.
It was a big deal. And then things fall into the bottom.

Speaker 7 It's hate when somebody recruits the guy that then wins you a championship. These asshole sports fans act like that, that doesn't count because it only happened once.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 7 it's like John Gruden. John Gruden, he was an overrated coach.
It's like he's got a Super Bowl win. And they're like, oh, that was Tony Dungy's team.

Speaker 7 It's like, first of all, he coached Tampa Bay to a Super Bowl. Tony Dungy did not.

Speaker 7 He also fucking coached in that game against his old team, the Oakland Raiders, that was so good, even when he wasn't there, they still got there. So I think that's a wash.

Speaker 7 And Tony Dungy got a ring with the Colts after their owner who sit on the competition committee made how the Patriots covered their receivers illegal, and then they stole our fucking offense.

Speaker 1 I would say that John Bruden is

Speaker 1 overrated.

Speaker 3 He's an average football coach compared to other people.

Speaker 1 He's not overrated. Compared to other football coaches.
He's not the Raiders twice.

Speaker 7 But when they were laying in the gutter,

Speaker 7 it's going to affect your win percentage.

Speaker 1 Have you looked at his season by season? He's had 14 full seasons in the NFL.

Speaker 7 He can't because of the glare of his Super Bowl ring. He's fucking nitpicking cutting.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 7 The whole purpose of being a super coach in the NFL is to take a team to the Super Bowl. He did it and he gets no fucking credit.

Speaker 7 I'm not saying he's one of the greatest of all time, but to say that the guy was like average, listen, that guy,

Speaker 7 when he coaches the Raiders, the Raider fans show up, they make money, and they become a competitive team.

Speaker 1 That's a good thing.

Speaker 7 He's got a $100 million contract. Yeah, over 10 years, that's 10 million a year.
That's chicken shit. That's chicken shit money.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's any money in the NFL. I wouldn't say, but he's not a great coach.
I think he's a coach that won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Whoever said he was a great coach if we just looked like

Speaker 7 people looked like he was making $100 million a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we are.

Speaker 7 But he wasn't overrated. $10 million a year for John Gruden is a fair fucking price.

Speaker 1 We agree that he wasn't a great, great, because that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 The one piece of advice I'd give anyone in life is to have incredible success early, because then you can kind of ride on that for a very long time.

Speaker 7 Oh, you're being a cunt.

Speaker 7 Listen, the only way you say that he's not a great coach is you have to compare him to the greatest of all time. But if you just talk about coaching, we've all coached Little League or Pop Warner.

Speaker 7 This guy made it all the way to a Super Bowl in that job and won one.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 So you're doing the opposite. You're saying like John Groom did.
He's balancing it out. If you put him up against Pop Warner coaches, he's a great coach.

Speaker 7 No, I'm saying that's like you did an HBO special and you crushed it, but you only did one. And then people act like you didn't kill on your HBO special.

Speaker 1 Right, so you never did it again.

Speaker 3 I would submit like John Gruden is a better football coach than 99.9% of people who were ever born in the world. But compared to other NFL coaches, I'd say he's like

Speaker 7 Top Hall Brown, Bill Belichick. Yeah, everybody's going to crumple.

Speaker 3 Yeah, especially the longer your career gets in the NFL. It actually is tough to have a long career hovering around.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you have to say Nick Saban's one of the greatest coaches of all time, but at the pro level, he got his ass kicked with the Dolphins. But does that mean he's a bad coach? Was it a bad franchise?

Speaker 7 I mean, look, if you coach the fucking Lions, I mean, that's a family-owned

Speaker 7 franchise. And the first guy who bought it was a rabid football fan, and they won like three with Bobby Lane.
And then ever since then, you know, it's the kids get it. And what are they going to say?

Speaker 7 No, to inheriting a billion-dollar corporation?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I actually think Jim Caldwell is maybe the greatest coach of all time, if you put it into real perspective, because he took the Lions to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 that's what i would say with baker mayfield they're already jumping off his thing because he got he brought the browns to the playoffs yeah no i know the playoff game the baker thing it's i it's really hard in today's nfl because i think we just put we frame everything around like if you don't have patrick mahomes aaron rodgers tom brady or like russell wilson and lamar uh lamar jackson you don't have anyone Josh Allen throw him in there.

Speaker 1 But like Baker Mayfield, I think.

Speaker 7 It's a lot more just it's a 24-hour news cycle. And they just have they every week they got to be like, you know, you know, were we wrong about, you know, Russell Westbrook?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 7 is he not good anymore? He has like one bad game. Did we jump the gun on this other Hall of Famer?

Speaker 7 It's just to get people like me standing in their underwear as they're brushing their teeth, yelling from the other room at the TV.

Speaker 3 You screaming at Stephen A. Smith from the other room.

Speaker 1 People tried it with Patrick Mahomes. They started to dip their toe in the water a little bit.
They're like, is Patrick Mahomes bad now?

Speaker 3 With Lamar Jackson, it's already like we already got the, is Lamar Jackson the greatest quarterback of all time, which was quickly followed by, has the league figured out Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 3 And now we're back into has Lamar Jackson figured out the league again?

Speaker 7 Has he matured? Yeah. An older, wiser Lamar Jackson in his third season.
I mean, that guy's lived like, you know, it's like, yeah, you know, it's like Falcon Crest back in the days.

Speaker 7 Somebody's dead and then they come back from the dead.

Speaker 7 I thought you died in a plane crash no i'm back i married your sister um all right i got to get going here because i i got some i got a thing i got to do here in about 28 minutes and it's about a 20 minute drive okay so so tell us last thing with your uh your tour so your your tickets on sale now 23 cities

Speaker 7 something like that yeah 23 cities uh a bunch of cool venues and stuff and uh

Speaker 7 I don't know. I got a whole new hour.
You know, it's cool.

Speaker 7 I did a gig at Red Rocks in Boulder, Colorado, and I filmed it. So I think I already got my special, which I've never done a tour where I already had my special.
So I get to just have,

Speaker 7 you know, I already got an hour and a half that works. And now I get to sort of like build the new one as this tour ends.

Speaker 7 So I'm thinking right as this tour ends, maybe my next special comes out and I already have another hour. I'm ahead of the game because of this COVID.

Speaker 1 Just a quick idea, and I know you got to go, but have you ever thought about putting together now not to, you know, out ourselves as maybe horny guys, but have you ever been horny guys?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, we're not horny guys. We're not

Speaker 1 watched a

Speaker 1 have you ever horny? Have you ever maybe come across a compilation online where it's a compilation of the finishing acts of a porn scene?

Speaker 1 Maybe you should do that where it's like you just telling you hitting the punchline over and over and over at every stop and all the laughs. And it's a little bit more.

Speaker 7 Well, I'll upload it to like one of those porn sites. Yeah, you porn.

Speaker 1 Just be like, Bill Burr, watch Bill Burr make everyone burst.

Speaker 7 Comedy compilation.

Speaker 3 Yeah, U porn should actually think about getting in, like branching outside of porn. I feel like they've kind of become siloed where it's just, I can't go to U porn and get all my viewing experiences.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just nail the joke. It's the last thing.

Speaker 7 I think there would be something hilarious watching an hour of a guy saying punchlines and listening to people lose it and you have no idea what they're laughing about.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's just the good part. It's just the good part.

Speaker 7 Me and my friends, my knucklehead friends I used to drink with in high school, we used to watch Jeopardy the same way.

Speaker 7 We'd hear the question, we'd be looking at you like we had no idea, and then some egghead would answer it. We would just laugh at how stupid we were.
And I think there might be something there.

Speaker 1 All right, something to leave you with. But, Bill, thanks as always, man.
It's always fun to have you on and good luck.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I love coming on this show, man.

Speaker 7 Anytime you have a fallout.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And anytime you're in New York, you got to come back in in person.

Speaker 7 Or anytime I got a random text, I'm sending it your way.

Speaker 1 Perfect. I love it.
I'll answer them all.

Speaker 7 All right, guys. We'll see you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. See you, Bill.
All right. Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 hey what's going on there pal we saw you at the hockey game on do i know you guys i'm ryan whitney i got a drink named after me not a big deal pink whitney that's what i thought see you fellas i invented the thing you pigeon pink whitney for legendary moments okay here he is the beast and now for something completely different

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 1 He is the beast, one of the best rugby players of all time.

Speaker 3 I'd say all time.

Speaker 1 Tende Mataro Raira. I hope I did that right.
I didn't promise.

Speaker 5 Tendai Matawarira. I'm going to have to give you some listeners.

Speaker 1 Okay, but the beast.

Speaker 1 And obviously, I'm not a huge rugby guy. PFT is a huge rugby guy, so it will be more his questions.
But I do have to ask, is The Beast the coolest nickname of all time?

Speaker 1 Because that's got to, like, at what point in your life did you get the nickname The Beast?

Speaker 1 And you're like, yeah, this fits. I'm The Beast.

Speaker 5 So it's actually a funny story, eh? So when I was born in Zimbabwe, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Zimbabwe.

Speaker 1 We have a guy who we work with who's from Zimbabwe. Oh, yeah, yeah, you obviously know.

Speaker 5 So I happened to be the heaviest baby ever to be born in Zim at the time. 1985, I was well over 5 kgs.
So

Speaker 5 I was a beast at birth. What was the pounds?

Speaker 5 Geez,

Speaker 1 Jake, 12.5 kgs and pounds?

Speaker 5 12.1 pounds.

Speaker 1 12.1 pounds. That's a big baby.

Speaker 1 Big baby.

Speaker 5 Sorry, I was big. My mom reminds me every second day.

Speaker 1 So you were the beast from birth.

Speaker 5 I was the beast from birth, man.

Speaker 1 That's pretty awesome. That is pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 So yeah, as Big Cat mentioned, our producer Zah, who works here, he's from Harare, right? And he said that he went to school with you. Yeah.
That he actually attended the same school.

Speaker 3 Were you there when the aliens came?

Speaker 1 What aliens? Aliens

Speaker 3 came to the Harare Boys' School.

Speaker 5 I was not, yeah, I'm not familiar with that episode.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No.

Speaker 3 No, he's got, like, are you an alien?

Speaker 1 You might be an alien then.

Speaker 3 He showed us, like, there were a bunch of news scammers that came to the school and interviewed him about it.

Speaker 5 But with the aliens, oh, geez, nah.

Speaker 3 They came at recess one day in Harare.

Speaker 3 But you're famous for being a South African rugby player. You play for South Africa, you won a World Cup there.

Speaker 3 At what point did you decide like South Africa was going to be the country that you wanted to represent internationally?

Speaker 5 I think I made that decision when I was 16 years old

Speaker 5 because

Speaker 5 you know from that age I knew I was very talented in the game of Gravit

Speaker 5 and there was no league in Zimbabwe to aspire you know to play for so the closest thing to home was South Africa. So I always watched you know South African rugby and I watched Super Rugby.

Speaker 5 I watched the Springboks play and I was huge fans of

Speaker 5 certain guys that actually were born in Zimbabwe but representing South Africa.

Speaker 5 Bobby Skinstead, you might be familiar with the name.

Speaker 5 So I knew that this was the place for me, you know, to

Speaker 5 get to, to realize my dream. So when I was 18 years old, we were invited on a tour to play against a few schools in the Durban area, on the east coast in South Africa.

Speaker 5 And it was there where I was scouted by the sharks. They saw me running around, they were impressed with my play, my skill set.
They offered me a burster to come and study and pursue my dream.

Speaker 5 So I made that decision, man, and that was like a dream come true, you know, when that offer came. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I knew that this is the place for me.

Speaker 1 So, for people who don't follow rugby, myself included, how, like, describe why you are the beast and why you are so well known. Like, what is your game like that is so much better than everyone else?

Speaker 1 You can put the humbleness aside for a second. We're allowing that.

Speaker 5 Okay, I think, you know,

Speaker 5 what makes me the beast or what made me the beast is, you I always showed there's feats of strength

Speaker 5 in the games. I don't know if you've seen my iconic lift that I did in 2012.

Speaker 5 I had a guy that I lifted above my head and I held him.

Speaker 5 It was probably 120 kgs, so that's

Speaker 3 quite heavy. It was a kickoff at the start of a half, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 3 as a prop, sometimes you got to lift some of your guys above your head to try to catch the ball. They get up in the air a little bit higher.
This guy fell backwards over the beast's head.

Speaker 3 The beast just held him up there above his head. Probably saved him from a broken neck.

Speaker 3 Did he buy you a beer after that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he definitely did.

Speaker 5 He definitely did. Yeah, so he was grateful.
And then another thing is obviously my scrummaging

Speaker 5 prowess.

Speaker 5 I was very strong in a scrum. I destroyed a few

Speaker 5 opposition

Speaker 5 in my career. So that's what kind of gave me

Speaker 3 that name you know uh it just echoed you know throughout my career and people chanted it every single time when i played so it made it really special you know so yeah man so i'll say the massive feat of strength that's what made me the beast that's pretty cool to just be like i'm the feats of strength that i showed over year over year my physicality and feats of strength made people call me a beast yeah that's pretty intimidating yeah when you say that out loud what about in in uh like high school or secondary school whatever i don't know what it's called in zimbabwe but as you're growing up, I have to imagine that you were the biggest baby to ever be born in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 3 You were probably pretty big when you were starting to play junior levels of rugby.

Speaker 3 Were the other parents in town concerned to let their children play rugby against you?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I remember a specific time in

Speaker 5 my high school career when

Speaker 5 one of the parents actually asked, you know, for my birth certificate just to

Speaker 5 see if I was legitimate, if I was actually born in the same year

Speaker 5 as their son. So it was quite, yeah, you know, it was quite, it is something that I just embraced, that I was just big, you know, I was, yeah, I was just naturally gifted, I was strong.

Speaker 5 So I had to show that I was the real age quite a few times.

Speaker 3 It's a compliment, really. Like in baseball, if you get accused of cheating when you're a pitcher, you should be like, thank you.

Speaker 3 Thank you for thinking that I'm that good that I must be doing witchcraft on the ball.

Speaker 3 You know, so if another parent's like, no, we don't believe that this guy is really the agent he says he's like, yeah, I am, and I'm just that good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, it is a compliment. Yeah, so I just, yeah, took it in my stride, man, and just owned it.

Speaker 1 I just, I just pulled up that video. That was an incredible highlight.
So, yeah, I get it now. I get the beast now.
I get that nickname now. It makes sense.

Speaker 1 Now, I know you've probably been asked this before,

Speaker 1 but did you ever consider professional football in America? Did you ever think about playing college football or anything like that?

Speaker 1 Because clearly your strength and speed, like that combination, is something that translates to any sport, I'd imagine.

Speaker 1 Did you ever, like, did anyone ever reach out and try to get you to maybe giving a tryout?

Speaker 5 So, yeah, something happened back in 2010.

Speaker 5 You guys are familiar with Five Hour Energy? Yep. Yeah, so the owner was launching

Speaker 5 the energy drink in South Africa.

Speaker 5 So he was looking for brand ambassadors and my name was put forward, you know, that I fit the brand and I met I met him and then he asked me have you ever actually tried to you know get into the NFL so he kind of looked at me said you look similar I got a similar boat to Ray Lewis you know you could fit the mode you could do the transition so I was like you know I never thought about it so he actually dropped a seat I think he was sponsoring the the sea walks at the time

Speaker 5 so um he told me that he would actually assist me to get into the combine so I almost came to the NFL combine but the only thing is that if I had done that, I would have

Speaker 5 probably risked my contract getting torn up in South Africa. So I was established already.
I had a family. I had kids.
So it was just too much of a risk for me.

Speaker 1 Watching the game, watching American football, do you think you could, at your peak, could have competed?

Speaker 5 Yep, definitely. I believe I could have been a great

Speaker 5 linebacker or tired.

Speaker 1 Pullback.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think I would have. I love Aaron Gordon.
He's probably my favorite player. So

Speaker 5 I watch a little bit because of this guy right there.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. Nice.
I love it.

Speaker 3 We could still arrange a tryout if you wanted.

Speaker 3 We've got a couple GMs on speed dial we could reach out to.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm key.

Speaker 3 Let's do it. Yeah.
But now you're are you playing for are you still on the DC Glory?

Speaker 5 No, so I played for all Glory last year. Um, then I officially retired from the game.

Speaker 1 Um, congratulations. No, thank you.

Speaker 5 But uh, the season was cut short, you know, it was unfortunate because of the pandemic. So I was based in DC for about three months and it was a fun time.

Speaker 5 And I was doing a lot of fun things, working with Washington Youth Rugby, trying to promote the sport, working with kids in the inner city schools.

Speaker 5 So it was so rewarding, you know, at the end of my career to actually try and help grow the game. So, yeah, I was doing some great work in D.C.

Speaker 3 What was the level of competition like when you were playing, when you did get to play for the team here in D.C.? Were you having to take it easy on some of the other guys?

Speaker 3 Were you like, man, I could actually kill you on this field right now, so I'm going to slow up?

Speaker 5 No, I think it was very competitive.

Speaker 5 It was quite physical.

Speaker 5 So I think in my first game, I played against the Sea Wolves.

Speaker 5 So, you know, it was a shock to my system that, whoa, these guys are really coming out for me.

Speaker 5 But I actually, yeah, I actually respected that. And I think I would, if I had to compare it to South African rugby, I would say it's probably on the same level as the Curry Cup.

Speaker 5 So it was quite impressive. And I think the league is just getting better every year.
The level level of rugby is getting better.

Speaker 5 So, you know, it's just the injection of the, you know, the international players coming into the league that's really kind of.

Speaker 1 Now, reading up about you, you also, like, you went to, are you currently in the NBA program?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Now I'm studying in NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so, like, you, rugby is at a point where it was obviously your full-time job when you were at the height of it, but I would assume it's not like something that, you know, like an NBA or NFL player like the top level guys they never have to work another day in their life so are you are you going to be working like a regular job you know

Speaker 1 coming up and be like I was the best at my sport that always fascinates me like you're going to walk into

Speaker 1 Deloitte and you'd be like yeah I was the beast I am the beast yeah so yeah funny you mentioned that so I did the whole transition into my next chapter fortunately whilst I was playing you know I always thought about my next chapter yeah I was prepared for it you know so I was invested in a security company I'm big the biggest in South Africa I became a shareholder whilst I was playing and yeah I started learning about the industry so it was a natural progression after I retired to join the business so currently I'm running a subsidiary CEO okay so you're the boss so that makes you feel better yeah okay all right that's a lot better yeah yeah so that's why that's why I had to study the NBA just to get a got it yeah got it I was like worried that you're gonna go to you know do the MBA and then like start as like a junior analyst like friend like no you own the company all right all right that makes you feel a lot better because you're the beast like that would suck if you're the beast yeah that would suck man that's all right okay so this was MBA was kind of an addition to what you already do in business world yeah that was smart though yeah the the transition seems like it's it's going well then it kind of sells itself

Speaker 3 if you have an opportunity to like hire a security company and you have one that's like okay I could either hire the one that's run by the beast or one that's not run by the beast why would you ever take the other company you know yeah it's good it's a fact yeah.

Speaker 5 So I try to leverage my brand as much as I can, you know?

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I got a question about your Twitter. So you're a crying emoji guy on NBA posts, kind of Twitter guy.
I've noticed that.

Speaker 1 So who do you root for?

Speaker 1 Are you a this league? You just like the storylines? Because I saw

Speaker 1 there was a meme. Sixers stay with us or go to the moon and Ben Simmons

Speaker 1 for Rocket Ship and you just have like six crying emojis.

Speaker 1 i like that lakers adding rondo the same locker room as westbrook it's a video crying emojis i like this so we're what who's your favorite player and like do you have a team in the nba so i am a huge nba fan okay so i'm a huge lebron fan

Speaker 5 so i there's the door exactly so i've i've changed my jerseys obviously uh yeah three times now you know from cleveland yeah he has no loyalty yeah i mean yeah yeah lakers yep so a lot of guys you know they kind of pick on me saying I'm not loyal, but I'm loyal to LeBron.

Speaker 5 So, I love the Lakers. I've been obviously, you know, following what's going on.
I watch games. It's quite late.
You know, they show like at 3 in the morning in South Africa.

Speaker 5 But I still watch, you know, so I'm a huge LeBron fan. I follow the guy like, yeah.

Speaker 3 What is it that you like about LeBron? I'm just curious.

Speaker 5 I think LeBron is the ultimate package. You know, he is a great, you know, athlete.
You know, he's a great human being.

Speaker 5 You know, he stands for so much that is right, you know, he stands out for the community.

Speaker 5 And, you know, he's vocal, you know, when it comes to, you know, campaigns like the Black Lives Matter. You know, he always thinks about other people than himself.
And obviously, he's a great father.

Speaker 5 You know, you should look at his kids now. You know, the way he's raising them, you know,

Speaker 5 it's a great father figure. So he's a complete package.
You know, so that's how that's why I look at him.

Speaker 5 And there's obviously longevity, the way, you know, he's been so consistent over the, you know, a long time.

Speaker 1 He's 37 now he's a year older than me so you know i always just aspire to be like him because you know he's so consistent he's won four rings he's gonna win more so he's lost six times in the finals too i you just i mean you just kind of like kneecap me there because i hate lebron but then you started talking about him as a person and i can't really argue about that fact because lebron does seem like a very good father and and obviously good with the community and everything but i hate space jam 2 sucked yeah space jam 2 sucked your comedy also is are you defending his acting as an alcoholic, sir?

Speaker 1 Maybe? Alcoholic?

Speaker 5 I haven't watched Space GM 2, so that's how.

Speaker 5 If you watch Space James, I'll be the judge whenever you're doing it.

Speaker 1 If you watch Space GM 2, and you'll be walking in with a Kevin Durant jersey the next day.

Speaker 1 Guaranteed. Guarantee.

Speaker 5 Never, never, never in a million years.

Speaker 1 So is NBA big in South Africa? Is it grown? Have you noticed that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, NBA is growing in a big way because I think

Speaker 5 there's been actually a massive focus from the NBA to invest. So I'm actually quite close to a lot of the NBA executives, especially

Speaker 5 that work in Africa.

Speaker 5 So I'm sure you're quite, I don't know if you're familiar, there was a new league that was launched this year. Yes.
The BAO, Basketball African League.

Speaker 1 Joke Noah was part of that.

Speaker 5 Jokim Noah J. Cole was there.

Speaker 5 So there's a lot of interest.

Speaker 5 There's never been avenues for young kids

Speaker 5 to aspire to get opportunities. Because

Speaker 5 there's kids that are actually really talented. You could get a few point guards in South Africa.

Speaker 5 Yes, they're not the tallest guys, but you could get some guys that can dribble the ball, they've got a you know a master skill set and can play.

Speaker 5 But the only thing is that you know they don't have an opportunity, so this league is actually you know quite huge for the whole of Africa. That's awesome!

Speaker 5 So, yeah, so I play a game of pickup like every second week because I actually play basketball.

Speaker 1 So, what's your game like?

Speaker 1 Rebounds, yeah, yeah. Do you like Charles Barkley? I'd imagine you can box people out.
Do you ever find yourself like semi-tackling people?

Speaker 1 Because it is funny watching whenever you watch basketball play, like when you watch pickup basketball, you can be like, all right, that guy played hockey, that guy played football, like that guy played baseball.

Speaker 1 I would imagine that guy played rugby is like he's just starting to scrum with everyone in the middle of the court.

Speaker 5 No, it's yeah, that's a fact, man.

Speaker 5 Every time I do a screen, you know, I muck somebody out.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't want to play with you. I want to be on my team.
Man, how much do you bench right now?

Speaker 5 At the moment, 190 kgs. So 190 times 2.2 pounds.

Speaker 3 That sounds like it's heavy. It sounds like it's over 400 pounds.

Speaker 1 198 kgs.

Speaker 5 No, it's close to 400.

Speaker 1 So you're still in, like, you're keeping in game shape. What about injuries? Because I'd imagine there's a million that you had.

Speaker 1 Rugby feels like one of those sports that if you ever talk to anyone who played rugby, they're like, yeah, I broke my neck, I broke my arm, I do this. Did you have a ton of injuries?

Speaker 5 Man, I was so fortunate.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 5 The worst I had was a broken ankle.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I just played so much rugby

Speaker 5 back-to-back seasons without suffering

Speaker 5 a lot of injuries. So I was just very fortunate, man.
I guess I credit to

Speaker 5 my conditioning coach, man. I had a great coach.

Speaker 1 In jeans, I'd say.

Speaker 1 You're also a menu. And also jeans as well.
Also, mom and dad. You're a beast.
You're a beast.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, man, I'll claim it. I'm a beast.

Speaker 1 So I played a little bit at

Speaker 3 Division I men's level, which is nowhere near as good, even as Major League Rugby in the United States right now.

Speaker 3 But a lot of the props that I played with, which is your position, they have like, you know, as their career gets longer and longer, they have to get, you know, shoulder issues start to pop up, especially with props and neck issues.

Speaker 3 There are guys that I know that have gotten MRIs that have spent like their entire life playing loose head prop and one side of their body is now bigger and over calcified.

Speaker 3 Like their bones are physically bigger on one side because you just spend so much time hitting that side.

Speaker 3 Did you have to actually like work to countertrain the other side of your body to make sure that you weren't getting like overuse injuries?

Speaker 5 Yes. Now, it was

Speaker 5 a massive emphasis.

Speaker 5 You know, it was part of my training regime to make sure that

Speaker 5 whatever I did on the right-hand side, I did on the left-hand side. So, I always try to equal, you know, because you don't want to have that.
You don't want to have one dominant side.

Speaker 5 So, it's important to create that and to get that balance. So, I always made sure in my

Speaker 5 training, you know, I did the same thing as the other side. So, it's quite important.

Speaker 1 So, 198 kilograms, by the way, is 436 pounds.

Speaker 3 No big deal. That's a lot.

Speaker 1 That's a lot. That's way more than Billy Football can't get a shitload of weight.

Speaker 5 No, I can binge a lot.

Speaker 5 I'll claim it in the Springbok team.

Speaker 5 Nobody could bench more than me.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Being the strongest guy on a rugby team, like a World Cup winning rugby team, is such a flex.

Speaker 1 Well, you have to be if you're the beast. Like, this is like a chicken and egg thing.

Speaker 1 You were born the beast, but then you had to live up to it. Because if you were not benching 436 pounds, you'd be like, this guy's not the beast.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 5 Like, who is he, man?

Speaker 1 He is beauty then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 I've been trying to think of ways to

Speaker 3 bring offloading into the NFL and teach players how to go into contact.

Speaker 3 pass the ball laterally or backwards and extend a play that way because you can get obviously so many more yards off it because you suck the defenders in and you're able to find a guy open in space.

Speaker 3 But it's a skill set that you have to work on for years to be able to do it comfortably, right?

Speaker 3 Like, especially for a bigger guy going into contact to be able to position his hands in just the right way to be able to pass the ball securely to his teammate.

Speaker 3 You should actually think about being a consultant to different NFL teams, to different coaches, and be like, I can teach you how to teach this skill properly because I do think that the game of football, at some point, there's going to be a coach that figures out the advantage to doing it, and that coach is going to do some real damage, and then other coaches are going to want to learn how to do do it, too.

Speaker 3 Have you talked to anybody? Have you ever spoken with a professional football player in the United States about

Speaker 3 what they think about offloading the ball?

Speaker 5 No, so

Speaker 5 I haven't had the chance, but I think it's a great point that you raise there. I think, you know, I've watched a bit of NFL, you know,

Speaker 5 and I think that they don't utilize the space, you know, to the best of their ability.

Speaker 5 You know, I think if you get the offload in, you know, then you get the chance to actually, you you know get the ball to somebody in a better position than you when you get tackled

Speaker 5 so i think there's a lot of space you know um here's the quarterback you know he can see everything and he can throw a dime and you know get you know get somebody to catch it and and score um

Speaker 5 um in the end zone but the fact of the matter is that you know if you get if you get all the players you know accustomed to offloading the ball i think it would just do a massive world of good you know it would be an unstoppable offense yeah the first person person to figure out how to do it correctly is going to be unstoppable.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. No, I agree with that.
I would love to help. So, yeah.
So you guys put me forward, man. Throw my name in the head.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. I had one last question.
This might be a weird question, but I would imagine you can drink a few beers.

Speaker 1 How many beers does it take for the beast to get drunk? I think people actually want to know.

Speaker 1 I would imagine if you had two Coors Light, which we love Coors Light, you're not, it's not like, you know, it's not doing anything.

Speaker 1 So, like, after a match, how many beers is like an average The Beast, you know, post-match?

Speaker 5 You're going to laugh at this because I've never been a big drinker.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, that's a totally fine answer.
I'm not either. Yeah, that's totally fine.

Speaker 5 It's just like, yeah, man, I'm a lightweight because when I drank, because I was so fit, it would take a few, you know, to get me drunk.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, man, I was always quite strict with myself, you know, never touched alcohol.

Speaker 5 I would train hard and stay, you know yeah stay clean so now probably i have a few more gin and tonics than no more yeah so i would say probably 10 gin and tonics would get me over and yeah because i mean

Speaker 5 what little i know about rugby is they just go and bash each other and like play this really hard sport and then get drunk after yeah it's a fact that's the old kind yeah it still happens but it's like it's like back in the day it was yeah it was quite excessive but because of the professionalism you know that has been brought into the game uh players now have to only drink three to four drinks after a game.

Speaker 5 Because your coach is literally looking at you.

Speaker 5 They're keeping tabs on you.

Speaker 1 There's a curfew.

Speaker 5 You can't go out. You can't

Speaker 5 obviously go overboard. So there's a lot of restrictions.
So you can't really do

Speaker 5 that much

Speaker 1 nowadays.

Speaker 3 Have you ever gotten into a fight on the pitch? Like a fist fight? Yeah. Who'd you knock out?

Speaker 3 What did they do?

Speaker 3 Because there's so much violence that happens in and around the scrum and the rucks that, like,

Speaker 3 at what point does it become an issue where you're like, we're actually going to fight now?

Speaker 5 So, yeah, probably the worst fight I had was in a local game in South Africa. We're playing a team called the Cheaters, and there happened to be a guy who was just

Speaker 5 irritating me. He was throwing cheap shorts in the scrum, you know.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 5 yeah, I had enough, you know. And the next thing I just gave him a big smack on the face.

Speaker 5 I got yeah, open slapp, like, yeah, literally a slat one slap.

Speaker 3 That's almost more disrespectful than

Speaker 3 a closed fist.

Speaker 1 I'd rather be knocked out than get slapped in the face.

Speaker 5 I would have probably gotten a red card, so I got a yellow card. I had to go sit in the sinbin for 10 minutes,

Speaker 5 but I was proud that I did that. Yeah,

Speaker 5 if a guy was being, yeah,

Speaker 1 he needed it.

Speaker 1 He needed it. Well, it's been awesome, man.
We really appreciate you stopping by.

Speaker 1 The beast, it's good to meet the beast. It's not a lot of beasts you get to meet.
So, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 No, thank you. Thank you for having me.
And it's great to chat to you guys. And hopefully, you're there at the USA match next week against the All Blacks.
I think it's going to be big.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think we're going to air this next Wednesday. Yeah.
Right? So it's this Saturday.

Speaker 3 Is it at FedEx Field? Yeah, it's at France. Ral John, Maryland.

Speaker 3 It's going to be the United States against the New Zealand All Blacks. We're going to get killed.
How many points is New Zealand going to beat a spy?

Speaker 5 I think USA rugby is going to chance, man.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a drool.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a drill.

Speaker 1 They're going to rise up to the occasion.

Speaker 1 There you go. All right.

Speaker 1 That's all. Very diplomatic.
All right. Thank you so much.
No, thank you.

Speaker 3 Thanks, man.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Send everyone on their way. Week seven.

Speaker 1 We'll see everyone at Kilroy's in Bloomington, Pup Punk, tomorrow night. Or tonight.
Gonna be listening.

Speaker 3 It's a great time. You know what? I need to find a place that I can get my hands on a pair of Indiana basketball walking pants

Speaker 1 for tomorrow.

Speaker 3 Can you do that for me?

Speaker 3 I want to wear those on stage tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 Yep, I will work on that for you. Hank, your fire fest of the week.

Speaker 6 My fire fest is last week. I was in Baton Rouge and I left my phone.

Speaker 1 You're an island, boy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I am. I left my headphones in my hotel room, so I have not had headphones this entire week.
Oh, that's tough. And I felt like just an absolute psychopath on the train in the morning.

Speaker 1 Wait, you

Speaker 1 didn't get another pair?

Speaker 1 Not yet. That is crazy.

Speaker 1 Didn't Jake say that he has another pair of headphones i i just don't listen i'm not saying air pods but going on the train without headphones is crazy well it's like one of those things i get on and then i forget i have headphones i go to work i'm like i'm gonna get headphones and then i forget and then and now we're here i'll give you headphones i'll walk i'll walk back from the train if i forgot my headphones i've done that yeah the train doesn't show up i'll go to put my headphones in be like oh i forgot them go back home there's nothing worse than being alone on a train with your own thoughts.

Speaker 3 Yeah. On, especially on your way into work.
Yes. Or you can be the guy, the psycho guy.
I don't know who these psychopaths are that just play whatever they're listening to out loud. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And just look at their phone the entire time.

Speaker 1 Not as crazy as the people who read. No, get, those aren't, I thought we said people.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are crazy. All right.
I'm sorry, Hank. Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 I have a pair of wired headphones if you'd like them.

Speaker 6 No, it's all right. I am going to get some eventually.

Speaker 1 Heard that before.

Speaker 3 PFT. So my Fire Fest is that I started watching watching Succession again this week, and I completely forgot what happened in the last season of Succession.

Speaker 3 So then I spent this entire first episode just trying to remind myself of what's going on and why they hate each other and why people are on different sides. And I just didn't, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 By the end, I made up an entire story in my head that I think is completely wrong. But at the very least, it got me to like start paying attention to this episode, filling in the gaps a little bit.

Speaker 1 So next Wednesday, we should start doing our succession reviews.

Speaker 1 We...

Speaker 3 Did you watch the first episode, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I had the same thing because I totally forgot, and this is a spoiler. If you haven't watched, make sure you don't listen to the next two minutes.

Speaker 1 But I think a lot of people are watching as they go along. It's not an enormous spoiler, but there it is.
Spoiler warning. I totally forgot that.
Tom and Shiv were getting divorced. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, that was one of those moments where I was like, wait, do they not like each other? Oh, yeah, they don't like each other. By the way, I don't know.
Remember to the divorce island? Yep.

Speaker 1 Island boy. Yep.

Speaker 1 They went, they took that, they sat on the beach and he was like, this isn't working. That was one of those ones.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 let's just be honest here. You're weak-minded if you go and watch the two-minute recap.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I am a man. I invented.

Speaker 6 I thought I was going to start with the two-minute recap.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I assumed.

Speaker 3 And at that point, I was like, I'm not going back and watching. I'm getting myself up to speed.

Speaker 1 That's for losers.

Speaker 3 I created this story in my head. It probably has nothing to do with the storyline, but at the very least, it got me to a point where I can now watch and observe what they're doing.

Speaker 3 The only note that we'll save our recap for on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll do episode one and two.

Speaker 3 I had one note. It was Shiv, good lord,

Speaker 1 dummy thick.

Speaker 1 Dummy thick. Bonk, bonk.

Speaker 3 We knew that was your dummy.

Speaker 1 You didn't even need to watch the first episode to have that.

Speaker 3 Thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.

Speaker 1 Thicker than a Snicker. Yeah, that will be.

Speaker 1 Because I think Jake and Billy are also catching up. So they're going to watch both seasons and then catch up.

Speaker 3 Also, best theme song on television. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 My Firefest is another podcast.

Speaker 1 You want to bleep it out? The Ryan Rossillo podcast? You don't have to bleep it out. Oh, no, wait, it's Dual Threat.

Speaker 1 Dual Threat Podcast. Frozen Pizza.

Speaker 3 That's a great name for a podcast.

Speaker 1 That was his name for his podcast. Dual Threat with Ryan Rosillo.
Why would he go dual threat?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think he's a freak in the streets and the sheets.
I think, yeah, it goes both of these.

Speaker 6 Audio and visual.

Speaker 1 Yeah, audio and visual.

Speaker 1 No, we're actually very good friends with Ryan Rossillo.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, maybe not Hank anymore. So there was a listener life advice email that said who would win in a fight? Rosillo, Kyle, nephew Kyle, who we've met, good dude.

Speaker 1 Sarudi, who we've also met.

Speaker 1 He's a soccer fan. I think I've said enough.

Speaker 1 And then me, PFT, and Billy, who would win in a fight. And Ryan talked himself into his squad beating our squad.

Speaker 3 Okay, well, first of all, nephew Kyle is, what, 6'5, 240? He's a big boy. But

Speaker 3 I don't have faith in nephew Kyle when it comes. I feel like I could submarine him.
And you have dad strength. I do.
Dad strength is a real thing. Do any of those guys have kids? No.

Speaker 3 So we've got dad strength.

Speaker 1 That they know of.

Speaker 3 And then we've got war mode on our side. Have any of them ever stepped into a ring?

Speaker 1 Well, I actually think that the real fuck-up that they had was Hank is the third in this crew. Not Billy.
I love Billy, but Hank is the producer. He's been the producer since day one.

Speaker 1 Billy fought in Rough and Rowdy. Yeah, Hank also fought in Rough and Rowdy.
Want to know? I actually have a different take on it. I think Rosillo holds so much anger in his shoulders and neck

Speaker 1 from various people online saying, oh, did you vote for Trump because of the taxes? That he would probably kick all of our asses.

Speaker 1 So I don't really.

Speaker 3 He's waiting to wail on us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's probably like, fuck you guys.

Speaker 3 I'll put it this way.

Speaker 3 If we held our fight at like a local school board meeting, Ryan would break down the door, come inside, and start screaming at us until he was either dragged out or he came up on stage and whooped the shit out of us.

Speaker 1 I have no problem saying that I am not tough. They did nail one thing about me.
They said that I'm a yo-yo weight guy, which that is absolutely true.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I haven't been in a fist fight in probably 15 years, and I don't ever, hopefully, plan on ever being in a fist fight again.

Speaker 1 So I have no problem just laying down and showing them my belly and being like, hey, my face is too pretty. to get punched.

Speaker 1 I can't say the same for you, Ryan.

Speaker 3 I've got a great strategy when it comes to a fist fight because I'm not good at fist fighting.

Speaker 3 But what I can do to most people is just go after their legs, grab them, we both fall to the ground, and then hope to God that somebody comes over and breaks the fight up.

Speaker 3 And then I'm like, I took that guy down.

Speaker 1 Well, Kyle did say, and I think he nailed the part that if it was Kyle and I matching up against each other, we'd probably just end up in some kind of weird, like, Tasmanian devil rolling around bear hug situation because Kyle's a smoker.

Speaker 1 I'm not in good shape. I think I probably have about 15 seconds.
Hank, I think you could kick Cerruti's ass, and I like Cerudi, but again, soccer fan Man Bun says enough.

Speaker 3 So now I have to go against Ryan.

Speaker 1 And that's not good for you. Good luck.
That's not good. Good luck.

Speaker 3 Why can't I go against a soccer guy?

Speaker 1 What if you...

Speaker 1 Do you want to go against Rascillo? Yeah, you should. Yeah, Hank should go.

Speaker 1 Hank's going against Rascillo. So now we've won.
Yeah, now we win the fight. So Kyle and I just roll around and

Speaker 1 kiss. Have all the reach.

Speaker 1 That actually is what we would do. If we showed up to the three of them and we faced off and we just kissed all three of them, what would they do then?

Speaker 3 It'd be be pretty tough.

Speaker 1 I would kiss the fuck out of Rosillo.

Speaker 3 Pretty tough to make him fight back at that point.

Speaker 1 Kissed Rosillo till he didn't want to fight anymore.

Speaker 3 Well, unless it turns into like a Johnny Cake situation and Ryan gets so mad that you kissed him and fulfilled his longtime wish to kiss you.

Speaker 1 Yes. He punches you.
Well, and then we've got motorcycles in New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 Then he comes back later and he's like, hey, can I get those Johnny cakes? Sometimes you tell yourself a lie for so long, you forget when to stop.

Speaker 1 I'm okay, though, with saying Rosillo would beat all of our asses because

Speaker 1 just a little life, oh, life advice.

Speaker 1 Never fight a guy who

Speaker 1 spends way too much time thinking about who they could beat up.

Speaker 3 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 It's a fair point, right?

Speaker 3 I would also say just never fight a guy whose clothes fit really well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Ryan's fit. And Ryan's clothes fit really well.

Speaker 3 Ryan goes like half sizes because his weight fluctuates too, depending on how strong his gains are that week. But he'll go to the store and he'll get like a half step up from a medium.
Yes.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, that guy, that's a very dangerous individual.

Speaker 1 Never fight a guy who won a battle to the death with a squat rack. Yep, that's true.
That's another one. That's true.

Speaker 1 Like, we could do, we go on and on of why we don't want to fight Rasilo because you know what? He's probably a fucking tough motherfucker. I'm saying this with all honesty.

Speaker 1 He would, he would cave my skullet.

Speaker 3 We're also just very good at cheating, so we would figure out a way to bend the rules. Just not show up to the fight.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Good luck. I did that with Jose Conseco.

Speaker 3 Then you have to come to us.

Speaker 1 You think that I am, you think that I worry about how I look of having someone fight in my place? Uh-uh. I've proven that I am a big enough pussy to have someone else fight for me.

Speaker 1 That is on the record. So

Speaker 1 have fun with that. I'm going to, oh, whoops.
Willie Clone's fighting for me.

Speaker 3 The big question is, which side does Chris Long join? Oh. We got to smoke him out before the fight.

Speaker 1 What if we get Kyle? They get Chris.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I would take Kyle. I think he's in better shape than that.

Speaker 1 You know what? We fucked this whole thing up. Like, hey, guys, guess what? Let's do the fight.
We just send Jake Marsh. Boom.
He kicked all their asses. One versus three.
Have fun with that.

Speaker 6 Come on. Sportsmanship to death.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, no, Rosillo, it was actually very funny.
We do love Rosillo.

Speaker 6 And he did. I do love Rosillo too.

Speaker 1 You do love Rosillo. I love Rosillo.
But he, the yo-yo thing, they absolutely nailed about my weight. There was one other thing.
Hold on, I wrote it down.

Speaker 1 There's one other thing that did, I'll be honest, hurt my feelings a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think Rosillo said something like, what did he say?

Speaker 1 He said something along, they were talking about my yo-yo weight, and then he's like, yes, sometimes he's not exactly the best-looking dude talking about me.

Speaker 1 And I was like, did you have to say sometimes, like, did you have to go that far? That's a compliment.

Speaker 1 You think that is? That's a compliment.

Speaker 3 That's him saying, like, sometimes I really wish Big Cat would kiss fight me. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 He's trying to get me to kiss fight him. You know what? Challenge accepted.

Speaker 3 We should start a league where it's rough and rowdy, except kiss fighting. Well, we could play kiss ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You play kiss ball? Ryan, meet me, Santa Monica Piers, one game of kissball.
Kissball. You throw a ball up in the air and you kiss the other guy as many times as you can until the ball lands.

Speaker 1 Whoever kisses the most wins.

Speaker 1 No, he said he's definitely not yoked.

Speaker 1 And he said, yeah, there's times when he has to ask himself. There's times when he sees pictures of him.
He's like, he's kind of attractive. And then other times saying, maybe not attractive.

Speaker 1 I was like, man, you didn't have to add that.

Speaker 3 Why did Ryan say that he wanted to fight me?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I think the person threw that out. I think it was Billy versus Ryan, you versus Ceruti, which would be

Speaker 1 bloodbath. I like Cerudi, but soccer fan.
Man, come on.

Speaker 3 I'm actually wearing a soccer jersey right now, but that's true. But it's from the 94 World Cup in honor of Tony Miola.

Speaker 1 I would imagine that Kyle and I would end up just probably like being like, let's smoke a joint and just watch them fight. That would be cool with me, too.

Speaker 1 Either way, that was my fire fest of the week. Also, someone pre-clogged my toilet in my bathroom at the hotel.
I don't know how that keeps happening.

Speaker 1 So that sucks.

Speaker 1 For like five minutes. Well, yeah, I don't.
Hey, I don't know how it keeps happening. I showed up and the toilet was clogged.
I'd only gone once to the bathroom there, and it was clogged.

Speaker 1 So that's crazy to me.

Speaker 1 I think there's a plot to pre-clog all my toilets. All right, numbers, and then we'll send everyone away.

Speaker 6 95.

Speaker 3 Billy's Firefest is at Swag Kelly Blocks on Twitter. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And Jake's is that

Speaker 1 his charger overheated.

Speaker 1 That sounds

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 his battery overheated, so he thinks his battery might be fried.

Speaker 3 Are you sure we didn't mix those two up?

Speaker 3 I feel like yours is Billy's and mine's Jake's.

Speaker 1 That's true. I would like to see.

Speaker 1 Release the DMs, Billy, because I'm guessing you said something to Swaggy.

Speaker 3 Well, there was a guy that works in CRISPR technology, like human genome altering shit, that had Billy blocked on Twitter. And when Billy got to meet him, he was like, hey, can you unblock me?

Speaker 3 And he's like, wait a sec, you're the guy that kept repeatedly asking me if I I could make a bigger frog. This is years before he worked here.

Speaker 3 Yes, Billy was just like harassing, literally harassing a guy on Twitter, asking him to make a frog slightly larger than the previous frog.

Speaker 3 Yes, but Billy, it's actually better, Billy, because you are rat poison for swag Kelly. If swag's ever going to get back in the NFL, he can't have you telling him how good he is all the time.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. All right, numbers: 95, 97,

Speaker 1 74, 74.

Speaker 3 That would be freaky if he was 47.

Speaker 1 See everyone on Monday.

Speaker 3 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm not the day to find you shying away.

Speaker 1 No, I've been coming for your love, okay.

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Speaker 1 every day I'll do

Speaker 1 needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm all descendants,

Speaker 1 but I'll be

Speaker 1 so a little way.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's no better to be saved than sorry.

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