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Speaker 4 Welcome to part of my take presented by betterhelp.com/slash PMT. Betterhelp.com/slash PMT.
Today is Wednesday, October 20th.

Speaker 4 And normally we would lead with some Monday night football wrap-up, but Ben Simmons, holy shit, this guy, I'm actually starting to kind of like how dysfunctional he's made this thing.

Speaker 4 So Ben Simmons didn't want to be at basketball practice today. So Doc Rivers said, go home from basketball practice.
Sounds like a win-win.

Speaker 4 They sent him home for conduct detrimental to the team, which you could make the argument that Ben Simmons being at basketball practice and shooting the ball. Correct.

Speaker 4 Anytime he has the ball in his hands and he's taking a shot during a game, that's conduct detrimental to the team. But they just sent him home.
He's just, he just doesn't want to be there.

Speaker 4 The day after he went to practice on Monday and practiced with his phone in his pocket, which

Speaker 4 got to have that thing on you at all times. Make sure that you're ready to videotape anything, get a call.

Speaker 4 Did Ben Simmons think he was part of Blake of the Year?

Speaker 4 Is that what he was doing? Keeping his phone on him? I don't know why you need your phone on you at basketball practice,

Speaker 4 but I think he might be just setting, like,

Speaker 4 his goal here might be to just show how disinterested he is, so he does get sent home. He's just started.
He starts playing

Speaker 4 Candy Crush on his phone. Yeah, he's playing Snake.
Yeah. Snood.
I was going to say Snood.

Speaker 4 You dated us. I went older.
Yeah, Snood also dated us. Snood wasn't.
Which one was Snood? Snood was the one where

Speaker 4 the thing went like this, I think, and then you shot it.

Speaker 4 You tried to... Was that Snood? That's no, that's Astro.

Speaker 4 I'm really really dating myself now snood was awesome i remember snood uh but either way ben simmons point of no return i'd say because i don't know if you saw but joel bi afterwards he hates this guy he said at this point i don't care about that man that's a that's his like to not even say his name i don't care about that man he also said he's not a babysitter um everyone on the sixers hates ben simmons there are some people who are like well he's gonna he's getting he's gonna get traded i still maintain that i think Ben Simmons probably could have played this a little bit better, like showing up.

Speaker 4 They're not going to trade him for nobody. Yeah, they're going to wait to see if they can get somebody good for him.

Speaker 4 And what he's just doing is basically just showing up, trying to communicate how disinterested it is while still showing up for practice. Yes.
He should have just worn jeans on the court.

Speaker 4 Did you ever have a guy like that on a team that you played on that would wear jeans during practice?

Speaker 4 Well, the phone thing, when you play like pickup hoops, you know, like I remember I used to play pickup hoops outside,

Speaker 4 and there was a guy who would come in jeans, and he'd have his phone on him. So he's basically there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I had a guy in my high school team that would wear jeans to practice, but he was also the best guy on the team. So it was fine.

Speaker 4 You can get away with having your phone on you at practice if you're Michael Jordan. Right.
You can do that if I guarantee you. Well, he's got cargo pants, jeans.

Speaker 4 I guarantee you that Kyrie Irving has his cell phone on him at all times, even during games, doing his own research. What's that? Oh, that's Snood.

Speaker 4 You remember Snood? Yeah. Yeah, Snood was awesome.
Snood was great. Snood was great.

Speaker 4 I have a take on Ben Simmons here because we've said on the show that Ben Simmons would be the best basketball player in the NBA if there was no basket. Right.
If it was just basketball.

Speaker 4 Or if he switched which hand he used. Yeah, if he.
Well, you think that he's non-dexterous. Right.
I think he might be right-handed. I think he doesn't know.
He doesn't know. He's figuring it out.

Speaker 4 He's like Billy when he went to college and was like, am I a quarterback or a wide receiver? He's experimenting. He should experiment.
He should get

Speaker 4 dex curious. Yes.
But I think at this point, Ben Simmons should just quit playing basketball. I think he should quit.
Okay. I think he just doesn't like it.

Speaker 4 I think it's pretty obvious that he doesn't like playing basketball. And it's got to be tough on a guy like, like, hypothetically, now, granted, he has made $56 million.

Speaker 4 Counterpoint,

Speaker 4 making money is cool. That's very fun.
Yeah. But I still think that Ben Simmons just doesn't like playing basketball.
And if that's the truth, and he, you know, he's built to be a basketball player.

Speaker 4 His body type is basketball. His dad played basketball.
He probably grew up his entire life being by by far the best basketball player that anybody knew around him.

Speaker 4 But at some point, if you don't actually like playing it,

Speaker 4 that's almost a curse, taking away the money that you've made, which is obviously great. So it's, I don't want to say like, I don't want to feel too bad for the guy, but at the same time,

Speaker 4 he should just, if he doesn't like doing it, he should just quit. He's like, remember the elf in the Rudolph cartoon? That's like, I don't want to make the toys.
I want to be a dentist.

Speaker 4 That's what Ben Simmons is.

Speaker 4 He wants to go.

Speaker 4 Is he a phase guy? I don't think, I don't know if it's that he doesn't like playing basketball.

Speaker 4 He just doesn't want to play for the Sixers anymore because for some made-up reason that he is like, I've been wronged here.

Speaker 4 When again, it's a crazy premise because when you see someone demanding a trade, it's usually the best player on a bad team saying, I need help. I want to trade.

Speaker 4 This is the absolute inverse where Ben Simmons was, you could say, is the reason why they have been floundering in the playoffs. And he's like, my team is good, but I'm bad.
I want to trade.

Speaker 4 I think he probably still wants to to play. He probably just wants to play in like Sacramento.

Speaker 4 No offense to Sacramento. But like play somewhere where he can just play and suck and not take shots and be a good defensive player.
And there it is. See, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't think that he wants to play. I think he likes the money that comes along with it, but he just doesn't want to play basketball.
Either way. I empathize with that.

Speaker 4 I would like to also get paid to not play basketball. Either way.

Speaker 4 I feel like, I don't know, I haven't played close at home. Here, the New Zealand Breakers will make a trade offer for Ben Simmons.
You don't even have to shoot. In fact,

Speaker 4 we will suspend you for conduct detrimental to the team if you even attempt a shot in a New Zealand Breakers game. I just don't know.

Speaker 4 If he didn't want to play basketball, I think he would have said that by now. I don't know.
Maybe. Maybe not.

Speaker 4 I think he might still be at the point where he doesn't have to be trying to play bad owl, trying to figure it out, and he doesn't want to say that because then that closes the door on any money that he could make in the future.

Speaker 4 Here's the big win in this: it's everyone's dad or uncle who was like, Ben Simmons couldn't even get into the NCAA tournament. He's a bust.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Those guys cashed those tickets. That was a great take.
I love that take. Like, well, what do you do? He didn't even get into the tournament? I mean, you could almost also

Speaker 4 like Philly won.

Speaker 4 Ben Simmons should be like, Philly,

Speaker 4 you beat me. If Philly won Ben Simmons zero, you know who's the other big winner of this is Nick Siriani.
Because the heat is off him for at least a day and a half. He's going to show up.

Speaker 4 He's going to show up wearing a shirt that says like, fuck Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is a bum.
Yeah, fuck Ben Simmons.

Speaker 4 Cross through his, you know, X through his face. Either way, Hank, we need to finish this with our

Speaker 4 number one Philly guy, Hank.

Speaker 7 It's just sad to see.

Speaker 4 It really is. How much are you enjoying this?

Speaker 7 I mean, it's amazing. It's just been beautiful to see.
The best part is there was a second where, you know, people swarm off. They said, fuck him, get rid of him when he held out.
He came back.

Speaker 7 And you did see some people be like, all right, you know what? He showed up for camp. Like, let's get this thing going for the season.
Like, we can be good again.

Speaker 7 And then this happens, like, two days later. They're all the way back out.
Joel and Biete hates him. Everyone hates him.
Doc Rivers isn't putting up with his shit.

Speaker 4 No, they all hate him.

Speaker 4 I mean, they have every right to hate him because it's got to be so frustrating to be like, not only is he not a good teammate right now, he doesn't want to play with us, but also

Speaker 4 he's going to submarine any... any assets we can get back that could help the team.
And one year after the contract extension. And one year after passing

Speaker 4 James Hart

Speaker 4 passed with sort of the dunks. You know what Sirian needs to do? He needs to actually call into WIP.
He needs to call into Big Ants Show in the morning and just go on all-time rants.

Speaker 4 He needs to go to the games and just lead the anti-Ben Simmons movie. Boo him.
People will absolutely love him.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Hank, I don't think that even you saw this coming in the way it spectacularly crumbled.

Speaker 7 No, I mean the past few days for Boston fans who hate Philly and hate New York have just been beautiful with everything going on with Philly teams, the Yankees.

Speaker 7 But the other thing, too, with the way the NBA season worked last year, where it's kind of a time fuck because of COVID, where essentially the Lakers won the COVID bubble a year ago. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Time fuck.

Speaker 7 So a year ago before the season started,

Speaker 7 people were throwing out trade offers for Ben Simmons, and Philly fans were like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 We want Ben Simmons over anyone.

Speaker 7 And it's only one year later, and they can't get anyone. I do.
They couldn't trade Ben Simmons for a bag of bones.

Speaker 4 I do feel very bad for Philly fans in this circumstance. I don't.
I know you don't. For a fucking second.
I know you don't.

Speaker 4 But if I may, for a second,

Speaker 4 this is a guy that you ride with that the whole world hated for a very long time and you defended like time and time again being like Ben Simmons is actually good, the national media going after him, and then he completely flipped it on you and made you look like a fool.

Speaker 4 I do feel bad for Philly in this instance because

Speaker 4 they are diehard fans and they did ride for him for a very long time and then he just turned around and said, fuck you guys. Like, I'm going to make you all look like fools.

Speaker 4 I think if you're going to use a first-round pick, especially like a first-overall pick on any athlete in Philadelphia, you need to do some pretty rigorous mental health screening on them.

Speaker 4 You need to make sure that they're

Speaker 4 alphas mentally. Like, they can't be phased, whether it's Carson Wentz or Ben Simmons.
There's just something about Philly. It's not for everybody.
Nope.

Speaker 4 But the people that succeed there will become kings. Yes.
The people that won't get washed out and they will crumble.

Speaker 4 But the Philadelphia franchises need to have some sort of like, when they bring players in for their initial interviews, they should just be like fucking berating them. They should waterboard them.

Speaker 4 They should waterboard. They should either waterboard or they should have actual guys that live in Philly row houses just in a room and just giving examples of like, these are the things

Speaker 4 I will say to you about you and about your face and about your family if you do not produce. Give them some batteries.

Speaker 4 Waterboarding them with insults. Yes, exactly.
That's what it should be. Yeah, with their own.

Speaker 4 Put a towel over their head and just have have have uh angelo and and phil and and stevie just sit there and just scream into their face that's what we absolutely need you need you have to get used it's it's different in philadelphia with that accent yelling at you things cut a little bit deeper yeah they do they demand a lot from their players um all right so the nba starts tonight we will do a i listen i In my mind, NBA starts on Christmas Day, but we will try to do an NBA preview at some point in the next week or so, maybe with Drasillo.

Speaker 4 What were you going to say, Jake? I have a reminder for you from the June 21st episode of Bet Unders on all NBA week one games. Oh, shit.
Why did I say that? Oh, no, I remember.

Speaker 4 That was me because they switched the ball over. It's a new ball.

Speaker 7 And Bet never entered tonight.

Speaker 4 It's a new ball. Just what you said from the news.
Is it a new ball for real? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Also, the Bucs.

Speaker 4 But what if the Bucks

Speaker 7 may be the biggest lock? There's just one tonight.

Speaker 4 I don't know. What? The Bucks.

Speaker 4 Why?

Speaker 7 The roster's coming all the way back. You saw that video with Giannis with the jump shot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but he's like the greatest basketball player of all time.

Speaker 7 The Nets are completely dysfunctional.

Speaker 4 I don't think the Nets. They could do Kevin Durant just like, fuck you.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 4 The Nets still have James Harden and Kevin Durant, right? Yes. And Blake Griffin.
And Blake Griffin. And Joe Harris.

Speaker 4 Which Joe Harris do we have? The good one.

Speaker 4 The good one. The regular season Joe Harris.
The lock. Okay, a lock.
So Hank is saying a lot. We're taping this in the afternoon, and you're saying it's a lock.

Speaker 4 Hank also, so before you came in, he was saying like Giannis has been in the gym

Speaker 4 all summer long, just working out, grinding harder than anybody but now I found out Hank saw one Instagram video did you see this video also you do

Speaker 4 have seen the video Hank the finals ended like a month ago oh yeah all summer long yes okay time fuck ironically from that June 21st episode the synopsis says the process is officially dead Ben Simmons is afraid to shoot a basketball yep okay so there we go we're back there time but we will do it we'll do a full preview

Speaker 4 I am I do think the Bulls are going to be good this year which is going to be very bad for me we should we should do the NBA preview with Ryan Whitney. Oh, that would be good.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Maybe Ryan and Ryan. Ryan and Ryan.
Yeah. The two A.
E versus E. Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right. So Monday Night Football.
Let's talk about it real quick. Huge win for the Titans.
Titans deserve a ton of credit. Derrick Henry is like out of control.

Speaker 4 How many touchdowns does he have now?

Speaker 4 Too many.

Speaker 4 He's had a couple games now with three touchdowns. I think he has like 11 or something.
Yeah, he's dominating. He's insane.

Speaker 4 But the Titans, like, that was, I was thinking about it. I was going to do a basic tweet.

Speaker 4 I held back, but it was, it was the beauty of the NFL in that any given Sunday, obviously it's played on Monday night, but, like, everyone thought the Bills were the best team in the AFC.

Speaker 4 They go into a Tennessee game, Tennessee's defense struggling, and then the Titans pull out that win.

Speaker 4 I still think I was arguing with some people online, which I shouldn't have done because I realized that the spread was what they were really arguing about.

Speaker 4 I think the Bills going for it, I'd do that 100 out of 100 times when you have 12 inches to go and you have Josh Allen at the end end of the game to try to win it in regulation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I see a lot of people out there are results guys, not process guys. I'm thinking about becoming a result.

Speaker 4 I might be a results guy now, though. Okay, I'm a process guy.
You can never be wrong when you're a results guy. You can be like, yeah, I would have drafted Tom Brady in the first round, actually.

Speaker 4 But yeah, people are mad about the spread. They're mad that

Speaker 4 they're just mad that it didn't work.

Speaker 4 So it's the easiest thing in the world to get mad about. But to be fair, on that last quarterback sneak,

Speaker 4 they just didn't need that one 12 inches. They also had to then use a timeout.
Then they would have had to take two shots at the end zone, two shots max at the end zone.

Speaker 4 I think you might have had three. And then, well, probably two, maybe three.
I think you have three, but I you still have, I still think that that's

Speaker 4 better than going to a coin field. I liked it.

Speaker 4 And then you kick a field goal if you don't get it. I liked the call when I saw it in real time.

Speaker 4 And the best way to do it, I think I saw you tweet about this, but this is how I've been kind of monitoring whether or not to go for it. It's just imagine what the other team is going to be.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Like, so what are their fans thinking?

Speaker 4 if i were so i i was betting on uh the buffalo bills but i was thinking to myself if i was a titans fan i would want them to kick this field goal get to overtime hopefully get the ball back in derrick henry's hands ice it that way yes yes no if you're a titans fan you don't want them going for it because getting the 12 inches and i saw also a stat which is it's good because it we always kind of forget that

Speaker 4 Fourth and one is not all the same. There are fourth and ones, and it's like one and a half yards.
There are fourth and ones. This one was 12 inches.
And also, you get 12 inches with Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 I would take my chances getting 12 inches with Josh Allen and maybe even score.

Speaker 4 The only thing that you could say, and I'll buy, is that the play call, maybe I would have maybe rather have him like roll out, and you can either throw it or he runs for it because he's just such a freak.

Speaker 4 But I still, I do it every time. Derrick Henry, by the way, 10 touchdowns.
Okay, yeah, they telegraphed what they were going to do when he went under center.

Speaker 4 They were able to like compact the defensive line. And that was a good play by the defensive lineman.
It's

Speaker 4 He pushed the fuck out of him. But yeah, when it's Josh Allen, he's like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL at converting quarterback sneaks.
I think he is the best quarterback.

Speaker 4 I think it was last year. It was 94%.
Yeah, he is the best one.

Speaker 4 And so he unfortunately had a moment. That one wasn't where he pushed all the buttons.
The quarterback sneak, that was a classic why button when you're standing still and you just kind of fall down.

Speaker 4 And so he ended up like half a yard short. They lost the game.

Speaker 4 I was actually saying that Vrabel should have declined the penalty on the kick return that ended up being a touchdown just because it felt like you want the ball back again to score.

Speaker 4 That would have been the ultimate analytics right there. It's like, you know what, we'll give you the lead with two minutes left because I'm that confident in my ability to kick your ass.

Speaker 4 And I don't, you know, each game,

Speaker 4 we leave each game having, you know, reactions like, oh, maybe the Bills suck or maybe their defense isn't that good. I think they're fine.

Speaker 4 I think they just played against a Titans team that was really, really desperate for a win. And also, Derrick Henry is fucking incredible.
Well, let's give credit where credit's due.

Speaker 4 Also, I think the best performance of the night last night was AJ Brown. He was playing with food poisoning.
Yep. He was shitting himself.

Speaker 4 Derrick Henry said, I just made sure we had enough toilet paper for him. So he was, you could see it in his eyes, too.
Have you ever had food poisoning? Yes. You feel like you're dead.
Yes.

Speaker 4 It's like the worst feeling ever. His body rejects everything.
You drink Gatorade and you just puke. Yeah.
So he was just, he was shitting himself during the game.

Speaker 4 He was walking around sweating everywhere. His eyes looked like they were dead, but he still went out there.
He had some awesome blocks and some important catches.

Speaker 4 I can't, I don't, I don't get out of bed. It's so tough for me.
If I have food poisoning, just the walk to the toilet

Speaker 4 is painful. Yes.
And so credit to AJ Brown. That's the most, one of the most impressive athletic performances I've seen in a while.
I think the Bills will be fine.

Speaker 4 They have, I think, the second easiest or easiest schedule for the rest of the year. Yeah.
So they'll, I still think they'll probably end up with the one seed

Speaker 4 because they, I mean, even their next three games the bills play the dolphins the jaguars the jets yeah those are their next three games i think they'll be okay well it's also after bye week so they get to rest up right uh yes and then the dolphins the jaguars the jets then the colts and the jets and yeah so i and the titans i was thinking about this we were talking about how the the patriots are uh good enough to lose close to anyone the titans the mike rabel titans are just they will just be able to win a big game.

Speaker 4 Like, they are a big game type team where they might fall flat in the one o'clock game against an inferior opponent. But when you think about this Titans team, they can get up for these big games.

Speaker 4 They've beaten some, they've won some big games, and so they always have that like dangerous part to them. We're like, I don't know, maybe the Titans will get your A performance and they'll beat you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Mike Frab. Mike Frabel under the lights is a different coach.

Speaker 4 He was so mad. Is he okay? He was so mad.
In the first half, he looked just pissed off. He was breaking the record for scowls.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 I don't think he said anything. He was just, there were a couple of times when he was just utterly disappointed, where he shook his head.
Yeah. Like his son just came home with a D-minus on a test.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Vrabel, he'll coach good under the lights. And the Titans, they're physical.
Yeah. They can kick your ass.
He deserved credit, though. So there's the Titans credit.

Speaker 4 And credit to the boy, Taylor Luana. I heard he's doing well.
Yes. He gave a nice little scary moment.
He gave, what is that called? The Shaka? Hang loose. The hang loose sign when he was.

Speaker 4 Rank, where does that stand, Billy? When you saw the hang loose, were you like, that's good, but I wish he had done the ghost ride the whip one. It was a football guy move.
Okay. Doing the shaka?

Speaker 4 Because it was just extra.

Speaker 6 He could have just done the thumbs up.

Speaker 4 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The player that does horns down is going to be my instant favorite. Yes.
As they're getting centered off the field.

Speaker 4 Any issues with my power rankings before we get to college football? I muted you early today because I knew they were coming. You were ranked sixth with the two-win teams.
I honestly don't care.

Speaker 4 Patriots second. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I actually saw this and made me. I don't like that, Piquette.
I would have ranked us lowest. Seventh? Yeah.
Seventh is the lowest.

Speaker 4 I might be out on the football team. It was funny because I did have some Patriots fans hitting me and being like, how are the Colts ahead of the Patriots?

Speaker 4 It's like, well, the Colts just smoked the Texans and the Patriots barely beat the Texans. But

Speaker 4 you could also do the eyeball test, Big Cat. Yeah.
You could eyeball test. Listen, I think the Colts eyeball test.
Hey, one and two is not bad.

Speaker 7 If it was Stump the Line,

Speaker 4 the Patriots would be able to get

Speaker 4 on a neutral field. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 4 that's not how my data is. It should be.
No,

Speaker 4 that's not what that is. Stump the line is.
No, the data. Yeah, Stump the Line is just, it has to be an actual matchup.
And we can go back and look at that previous game. And what was the final score?

Speaker 4 The

Speaker 4 Texans won 34-3. Oh, are you talking about which one? Wait, I'm talking about the Texans and the Patriots.
That was 25-22, I want to say. Yeah, that's right.
So it would be Patriots minus three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's the line. No, you're.
And the Colts would be, what, 28? 28. Minus 28.
That's what's the line. It was great rankings.

Speaker 7 You know how to get interaction on your face.

Speaker 4 They're unbiased. Love it, man.
You're a good sweet.

Speaker 4 Don't get mad. I'm not.
Don't call me. He's calling you C.
Matt. He's jealous of Nick Wright.
You are UC Med.

Speaker 7 Getting replies. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Nick Wright. I thought you'd be happy that I ranked you number two.
No, I was. I was thrilled.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Seemed thrilled. Should we talk some college football?

Speaker 4 Some college football. What do you got, Billy?

Speaker 6 It was a sick weekend of college football. There it is.

Speaker 4 Way to start it off. Not as good as high school football.

Speaker 6 Next week, there's going to be no top 25 matchups, so we got to save her this week.

Speaker 4 You don't know that, though. Wait, this week? You mean we got to save her last week? Last week, I mean.
Got it.

Speaker 6 So this week, there's none.

Speaker 4 Okay. Got it.
Fair. Purdue, though, gets the big...

Speaker 4 Purdue wins the weekend with their performance in Iowa City.

Speaker 4 We mentioned it on Sunday, but the fact that they've beaten the one or two ranked team nine times as an unranked team is pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 That's also like the beauty of college football because when people say, oh, college football, you know who's going to make it to the final four every year, like Alabama or Clems are going to win.

Speaker 4 A win like that for Purdue, like that can carry you for an entire year if you're a Purdue fan. You know what I mean? Those are the wins that you're like, that was fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 That can carry you through an offseason for sure. Yeah.
I'm looking at the top 25 rankings right now, and we talk about maybe getting a different color into the Final Four. Oh, it's bad.

Speaker 4 So, regardless. It's bad right now.
It's all black and red. Yes.
Unless Michigan crashes.

Speaker 4 Michigan could potentially crash it. But it's Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, Georgia, all black and red, top to bottom.
Is there a blue blood you would like to jinx this week?

Speaker 4 Because you did it to Notre Dame. You did it twice to Texas because they lost two in a row.
Yeah. But hey, they could make it.
But they could. I actually think that Texas is getting better every week.

Speaker 4 Did you see the horns down on the helmet? I did, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's a sign.

Speaker 4 I do think that Texas, the more they lose, the better they get. So, who would you like to jinx this week? So, this week, I would like to.

Speaker 4 Wait, Michigan is playing who? Michigan is playing Northwestern. They will win.
I'm not jinxing Michigan this week.

Speaker 4 The big 10 matchups next, the following week, are Michigan versus Michigan State and Penn State versus Ohio State. So, I thought we'll kind of figure out things out.
I thought about jinxing Georgia.

Speaker 4 Okay. I thought about jinxing him.

Speaker 4 Shout out Mark Stoops calling timeouts to cover the spread. That's a legend.
Knew exactly what he was doing.

Speaker 4 That deserves coach of the year consideration just for the fact that he called the timeout with three seconds left, down 23 points, just to score a touchdown and cover the spread. Yeah, that was nice.

Speaker 4 I would have liked if they had converted the extra point because I had the over.

Speaker 4 So that was tough because I celebrated that win after the touchdown was scored. Left Buffalo Wild Wings, happy as a clam, got into the car, opened up the score app, looked at it.
Damn.

Speaker 4 I was like, they're missing a point here. What happened? Put it back on.
Put it back on. Stoops.

Speaker 4 It would have been nice if you had made that extra point. I appreciate you taking the time to actually try to cover the spread, try to get me the over.
But the details matter.

Speaker 4 So I think Georgia, I might be chinking Georgia. Okay, they have Florida next week.
Oh, it's not this weekend. It's not this weekend.
The cocktail party is this weekend. It's next weekend.

Speaker 4 And that's Hank's one to watch. Andy Richards.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 I said hilarious. I'm with you, Hank.
I think that they could do it. So in that case, I'll just say fuck it, Tennessee over Alabama.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 As Big T put it, it is the most important cultural rivalry in the history of the South. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Again, it's very tough in college football. You can't.

Speaker 4 I do respect.

Speaker 7 And some states break up over their rivalry.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, yeah, the Civil War happened down there. And let's not forget Golden Corral versus Waffle House.
Yeah. There's a lot of rivalries.
Alabama-Tennessee is a fun rivalry.

Speaker 4 They play at the same time every year. The cigars afterwards and everything.
It's just impossible to be like, this is the biggest rivalry when the team you're playing has a bigger rival. Yes.

Speaker 4 No, it's not.

Speaker 4 It would be like saying, if I, if, if, if you tried to say, uh, like, if I tried to say, like, Wisconsin versus Michigan is the biggest rivalry in the Big Ten, it's like, but their biggest rival is Ohio State.

Speaker 4 Right, you're swagger jacking their rivalry. Right.
You can't do that. You're leeching onto that.
It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 4 Although, I would say if you're, if you're Alabama, you probably have, I would say, LSU,

Speaker 4 Auburn,

Speaker 4 Georgia, Florida, Florida. They don't play very often.
Right, right. But when they do, I'd say, like.
But, no, Tennessee-Alabama rivalry is something. They play the same.

Speaker 4 I love the fact they play the third weekend of October every single year. They do the cigars afterwards in the winner's locker room.
Like, there is, it is a true rivalry. It's a rivalry.

Speaker 4 It's just not Alabama-Auburn. I'll say it's number three.
I would say LSU, Alabama feels like more of a rivalry right now. Speaking of LSU, that's the big story.
We touched on it, but Cocho is out.

Speaker 4 He's going to finish out the term. I really do think that it will be a maybe once-in-a-lifetime betting opportunity if they can get to a bowl game and they try to ride one out for Coach O.

Speaker 4 You know what's crazy?

Speaker 4 Coach O just made himself into an interim head coach. Yes, he is.
For himself. For himself, correct.
Yes. I can't bet against that.
No, you cannot. You cannot.

Speaker 4 It sucks. We love Coach O, but it was obviously, I think everyone who follows college football even a little bit knew it was coming.

Speaker 4 Now, the biggest, the best part about this is every single coach, because LSU is a top three job, I would say, in college football.

Speaker 4 I love this. I love ranking jobs.
Yeah, well, I mean, the stat that everyone keeps throwing out, and it is crazy to think, the last three coaches at LSU all won national titles.

Speaker 4 So it tells you something right there.

Speaker 4 But every coach in America is going to get asked about it. Like, Dabbo got asked about it.

Speaker 4 Lane Kiffin got asked about it. I'm sure Lincoln Riley would get asked about it.
Jimbo

Speaker 4 is the best because Jimbo,

Speaker 4 his quote was, I plan on being here for a long time. Wait, no, no, that was his quote at Florida State before he left Texas AM.
Okay, long. His objective.

Speaker 4 His quote at Texas A ⁇ M was, I plan on being here and fulfilling this contract. Okay, got it.
Got it.

Speaker 4 It's also like

Speaker 4 message board

Speaker 4 fanfic porn with this contract situation. So, for anyone who doesn't know, Scott Woodward is the AD at LSU.
He's going out to try to find the new coach.

Speaker 4 He was the AD at Texas AM when he hired Jimbo Fisher. They put into the contract that there is no buyout if Jimbo Fisher wants to leave.

Speaker 4 So now he can go get Jimbo Fisher and not have to pay a buyout.

Speaker 4 So people could make the argument that he basically is a time traveler and he set this whole thing up in a sequence of events that he can go get Jimbo Fisher again and the contract that he wrote makes it not punitive to getting Jimbo Fisher.

Speaker 4 Right. You just accurately described what would happen if House of Cards had a three season long runway to plan something out.

Speaker 4 This is exactly how it's going to end at the end with Jimbo Fisher slamming his Aggie ring into the desk. It's incredible.
And saying, all right, let's get to work.

Speaker 4 I'm calling the people out there right now. If you have flight tracking software, if you're an active member of a college football message board, now's the time I need you more than ever.

Speaker 4 I need to get all over this plane tracking situation at Baton Rouge. I need that tail number.
I need that sent to me stat every time they depart from an airport. I need to start connecting dots.

Speaker 4 Doesn't matter what town they're flying into. I can find a football coach that's somehow related to any major airport in the United States.

Speaker 4 Just keep me informed of it because flight tracking season is my favorite. So let's stay on top of it.
You guys have a very big task ahead of you. I hope, who would you like to see?

Speaker 4 I hope they hire Lane Kiffen because then Lane Kiffen can hire Coach O. Yeah, I would because they're like best friends.

Speaker 4 Lane Kiffen would be a good one just because I'd like to see him stay. I'd like to see him coach for every single team

Speaker 4 in the SEC.

Speaker 4 Outside of that, I don't know. I think you got to consider at least bringing Joe Brady back.

Speaker 4 You got to feel him out and you have to ask, do you want to be a professional coach? Because he's going to get... The problem with Joe Brady is as long as the Panthers don't screw up too badly,

Speaker 4 he's going to get head coaching interest this offseason.

Speaker 4 In the NFL.

Speaker 4 So you have to at least start asking him questions. Which the Panthers are kind of screwing up right now.

Speaker 4 They're kind of screwing up right now, but he still has the ace in the hole of, well, Sam Darnold kind of stinks and also Christian McCaffrey's injured.

Speaker 4 So the only reason I would think maybe not Joe Brady is Scott Woodward, the AD.

Speaker 4 Apparently, he is like, all he wants is like a trophy. You know what I mean? Like a trophy higher.

Speaker 4 So he was the guy who also hired Chris Peterson out in Washington Washington when he hired him there from Boise, which everyone shocked for that. So he's a splash guy.

Speaker 4 Joe Brady might not be the splash. Like I would

Speaker 4 Lincoln Riley would be the splash. You know what I mean? Like getting Lincoln Riley before Oklahoma comes to the SEC.
Yep. That would be awesome for rivalries and just crazy stories.

Speaker 4 Joe Brady is not, he's not a splash, but I think since he has that history of winning a national championship, and he's basically him and Innsbinger, is that how you say his name? Yeah.

Speaker 4 The other offensive coordinator, they're credited with that championship just as much as Coach O is to a certain extent because of what they did with Joe Burrow. I think that

Speaker 4 people would be happy. Maybe Urban?

Speaker 4 I was going to say Urban Meyer would be another one to look at because as long as you don't do it to any of the Dean's wives,

Speaker 4 then it might be fair game.

Speaker 4 It's Louisiana, who cares? It's fun to have all this

Speaker 4 intrigue. Because again,

Speaker 4 it sucks for USC because LSU is a better job than USC, so now they have to get maybe seconds. Who knows? You think LSU is a better job than USC?

Speaker 4 Because the competition is like, there's no, no one competes with LSU in Louisiana. Yeah.
So they don't have the in-state talent they get to keep. Right.
To me, that's a close one.

Speaker 4 I guess USC has really fallen off a lot in the last 10 years. Yeah.
And it's, I mean, again,

Speaker 4 it's hard to argue against the fact that the last three LSU coaches have won a national title. It feels like you can...
You just go there and you can win a national title.

Speaker 4 Anything else from college football? Anything else? WSU WSU fired their coach. Yes.
Washington State. Rolovich.

Speaker 4 Rolovich is out, but I'm not sure why they fired him now as opposed to firing him a month ago because they essentially fired him for not getting vaccinated. Yes.
Right?

Speaker 4 Well, they sucked. Let's go to Bro Football Doc.
Billy, do you know why they fired him?

Speaker 6 Probably bad papers.

Speaker 4 Papers, bad papers. Bad papers.
Bad papers. What do you mean?

Speaker 6 Might have given out some fake papers.

Speaker 4 Oh, he was. He had some.

Speaker 6 I can't confirm that.

Speaker 4 Okay, this is just speculation from those. It's a complete speculation.
Vander Kane situation. Vander Kane.
Vander Kane.

Speaker 7 It's a feeling like that probably would have been.

Speaker 7 They would have said that's the reason they fired him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, probably. Also,

Speaker 4 he's been saying for like a moment. And he's so anti-vaxx.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's so anti-vaxxed, he wouldn't have tried to fake it.

Speaker 4 Why did they wait this long if this has been a known thing?

Speaker 7 I think they gave him an ultimatum.

Speaker 4 Oh, they set a date?

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're like, you have until this date to get vaxx.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Speculation, but like, and then on that date, he handed it a bad piece of paper.

Speaker 4 That makes sense. Okay, so a combination.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Coach O should coach for them. Whose speculation is this, Billy? Are you speculating? I'm speculating.

Speaker 6 Am I not allowed to speculate?

Speaker 7 No, I'm just making sure that you're going to be. So you can speculate.

Speaker 4 This is my original speculation. This is a Billy football speculation, not a part of my take speculation.
That way, legally, you're going to get sued, not us.

Speaker 6 Parody law.

Speaker 4 Parody law, yes. That was actually

Speaker 4 a bro football doc speculation, which is a parody of Billy. Right.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Also, legal basis, Coach O speculated to Miami from Billy.

Speaker 4 Not as head coach. As head coach.
Whoa. Okay.
I think Coach O will probably have a year or two where he maybe goes as an assistant coach somewhere. I think Coach O.
Love it down in Miami. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's where he, you know, he coached those defensive lines. That's what.
Yeah. I think Coach O would love it on College Game Day.

Speaker 4 I think he'd be awesome on TV. God, no.
You don't think so? What? Going to a different college game.

Speaker 7 Having to wear a shirt and tie. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, that knows. Talking to producers.
Yeah, it's out the window. Think about the closed captioning.
Yeah. It'd be amazing.

Speaker 7 Coach O, here, Coach O, here's a bunch of stats and things you need to know. And you'd be like, What?

Speaker 4 Come on.

Speaker 4 I mean, do you watch Godge Game Day ever? A lot of times, that's just basically they just talk. Yeah, just guys shooting the shit.
Uh, by the way, I didn't even tell this story.

Speaker 4 I went to when we went to Knoxville, we landed, and uh, the uh, Herb Street and Bear, who we love Bear, were on the tarmac when we landed because they, I think, they were stopping over.

Speaker 4 Kirk Herb Street has the bluest eyes of all time. I was shocked, I was taken aback, breathless.
So, if we go out to dinner with him, just be ready. We're going to fuck him?

Speaker 4 Things might

Speaker 4 get out of hand.

Speaker 4 Look at those eyes long enough. Yuck.
All right, if he starts ordering the oysters and the red wine,

Speaker 4 Caribbean blue.

Speaker 4 I was shocked. Yeah.
I was like, oh, my God. All right.
Now I'm a little bit worried. Yes.
I'm just saying. Just want to let everyone know.

Speaker 8 I won Best Eyes Class of 2014 Burkhod High.

Speaker 4 Did they know that you were colorblind?

Speaker 4 I don't even know what color they are, but other people liked them, them, I guess. You do have good eyes.

Speaker 4 Well, not good. You have good color eyes.
They're good eyes for us. Yeah, they're good eyes for us.

Speaker 4 They don't work well. They suck for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Good to look at. Yeah, good to look at.
Not to look.

Speaker 4 Ooh, nice, Billy. All right, let's do hot seat, cool throne, and we'll get to Paul Bissinette.

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Speaker 4 All right, hot seat, cool thrown. Hank.

Speaker 7 My hot seat, big cat, is your boy

Speaker 7 Chris Broussard. What?

Speaker 4 What'd he do? He just

Speaker 4 crew. He said that Taylor Luan was on the Bills.
Was he emailing Bruce Allen?

Speaker 7 He said that the reason, the only reason the Titans won is because Taylor Luan was injured. Implying that that was why the Bills didn't get a fourth down.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, he actually went as far as to say, like, that was the side that he was, the left side of the line, is where it got blown up. Right.
Where Taylor Luwan used to be.

Speaker 4 My hot seat was going to be anyone who fell for that classic prank. Chris Broussard just keeping you on your toes.
Chris Broussard is really good at faking being ignorant. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You fell for it, dude. Yeah, I did.
Hooked the line and singed. What are you thinking? Guess what? You're talking about him right now.
Yeah. Confirmed.

Speaker 4 Chris Broussard lives rent-free in Hank's head. Yeah.
Greatest, greatest,

Speaker 4 greatest, greatest clip ever of when Chris Broussard, when LeBron wrote a story in Sports Illustrated, and Chris Broussard looked at his phone on the set of Sports Center. He's like, yep, confirmed.

Speaker 4 LeBron to Cleveland. It's like, well, LeBron literally wrote the story in Sports Illustrated.
That's his second source. Yeah.
He's like, yep, I'm seeing it. Confirmed.

Speaker 7 All right, so I guess hot seat me for thinking that.

Speaker 4 Big time hot seat. So I would be in the hot seat.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is Red Sox fans.

Speaker 7 fans i guess hot seat could be whoever produces the fox uh baseball show i don't know if you guys saw this or if you kept the game on i kind of just kept the game on and wasn't paying attention then

Speaker 7 the post-game show was on and i i like tuned in and they did it outside

Speaker 7 right outside the stadium the fans were so loud that like they were making conversation and you could not hear a single if you were trying to hear what like a rod and and big poppy and frank thomas were saying you couldn't hear them because you could just hear like constant people screaming then they started going at A-Rod hard.

Speaker 7 Like, you know, people, A-Rod has had a good, like, image reversal in the past 10, 20 years. People seem to like him generally.
Everyone.

Speaker 7 Red Sox fans fucking still hate him because they were just like started chanting AFLAC.

Speaker 4 Like, fuck you, A-Rod.

Speaker 7 At one point,

Speaker 8 the show was just muted for like two minutes because it was like,

Speaker 4 and they just had to mute it because you could hear the fans so clearly.

Speaker 7 It was super, super rowdy. Felt like a World Series atmosphere.

Speaker 4 So let's see.

Speaker 7 And it was, A-Rod was pretending to love it, but but there's just no way he was.

Speaker 4 No, he loved it. He

Speaker 4 got flow, dude. Yeah, because that's not a real.

Speaker 4 J-Lo and Aflak are doing it for fun. Are you saying Aflac, like the insurance commercial? Yeah, Aflak.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what they're doing. It was an insurance commercial.
It's a viral commercial for Aflak. Let's talk baseball real quick, though, Hank.

Speaker 4 We were talking about it before, but it's just crazy that the Red Sox are just going to win the World Series again. It feels like it.
They're not like. It feels like 13.
It's just the whole year.

Speaker 4 It's like...

Speaker 7 Oh, no, wait, 19 was the last one.

Speaker 4 The whole year, they're like, oh, not, I think it was 18. 18, sorry.

Speaker 4 They're not that good. They're not that good.
Oh, but now they're just the best team in baseball. Yeah.
They're like killing the Astros.

Speaker 7 Killing them.

Speaker 7 They haven't had a starter get past the third inning.

Speaker 4 It's crazy. So the last three games.

Speaker 7 Like they were down six, and they were like, just we have to get more innings out of this pitcher. We don't even care about not giving up runs.
Like they just, they have no bullpen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so who are Yankees fans rooting for, by the way? Are they still hating the Astros? Do they still have that lingering resentment? They're probably not even watching the series, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're in trouble. They're down bad.
Yeah, down real bad. Real bad.
So with the Red Sox,

Speaker 4 they're smashing so hard. I've thought about doing those bets the last three games where I bet against a player to hit a home run in each game.

Speaker 4 Every player that I've almost submitted the bet button on responsibly has ended up going yard that game. Yes.
It's been really like they've

Speaker 4 been somebody new every night Schwarber's hitting balls to the moon. I love them so much.
You're welcome, Hank.

Speaker 4 They showed us that last night. Thanks, Pikachu.

Speaker 8 Every team in the playoffs, and the Red Sox have hit, I think, 19 home runs I said, and the team at second has hit eight.

Speaker 4 It's crazy.

Speaker 7 They also have like eight out of ten or something Grand Slams like in ALCS history.

Speaker 4 It's fucking insane. I don't know.
They just

Speaker 4 somehow are the best team in baseball.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 the Dodgers, like...

Speaker 4 By the time you're listening to this, you will know if the Dodgers are dead. But Charlie Morton playing, you know, starting for the Braves, he's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 4 It would be crazy if it was the Braves in

Speaker 4 the World Series because that just feels like a franchise that is always cursed. Yeah, I mean, they'll always have 95, right? Yeah, 95.
What, 13 NLEs in a row?

Speaker 7 Really ruined my plans from a few shows ago. What?

Speaker 7 It turns out that the home field advantage isn't won by the All-Star game anymore. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
So if the Red Sox play the Braves, they won't have homefield.

Speaker 4 That's true. That's right.
The Braves don't really have home field now that's not

Speaker 4 Fulton County Stadium anymore. Legendary place, legendary place.
No, it's not even Turner Field.

Speaker 7 No, if the Red Sox,

Speaker 7 it's the Red Sox play the Braves, they will have home field, but then they won't play the weekend games.

Speaker 4 I don't know where they will have home field.

Speaker 7 The Braves are the only team that they would have homefield against.

Speaker 4 Got it. They had a better record than the Braves? Yeah.
Then

Speaker 4 we get the nice storyline of the Boston Braves. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 4 Log Bookie going back up against the Red Sox would be interesting. Yeah, it would.
And Joe Kelly.

Speaker 4 On the Dodgers. I knew that.
Yep.

Speaker 4 PFT, your hot seat? My hot seat is Billy. Billy's on the hot seat.
Okay. Because Billy got out-alpha by Carl Anthony Towns,

Speaker 4 who prepares for every game now in the NBA by watching a video of gorillas fighting to the death to pump. Wow.
Something that I don't think Billy's ever done in his life or even considered.

Speaker 4 That's too hardcore for you to do.

Speaker 6 No, that's because that video that he watches, the gorillas don't actually die. I know exactly what video he's talking about.

Speaker 4 It's a fake gorilla death?

Speaker 6 It's a fake gorilla snuff tape.

Speaker 4 But isn't Carl Anthony Towns like one of the criticisms that he's like plays kind of soft for a big man? Well, that's how he started. He's trying to hide it.
Got it. Got it.
Got it. Got it.

Speaker 4 He's trying to turn himself into

Speaker 4 Billy. So you've seen the video.
I've seen the video. How do you know that? Because it's the video.

Speaker 4 Is it possible that there's more than one video of two gorillas fighting?

Speaker 6 Look, as someone who scours the internet for those types of videos, the one video that comes closest to it is two gorillas fighting in a zoo and everyone in the background is yelling, get the zookeeper, as if the zookeeper is going to hop hop in there and fight the two gorillas.

Speaker 4 I've seen that one. That's the one he's talking about.
How do you know?

Speaker 6 Because there's no other gorilla.

Speaker 4 There's no other gorilla.

Speaker 6 Okay. Like, that's the best gorilla fight video on the internet.

Speaker 4 Jake,

Speaker 4 Undisputed? Undisputed. Did you guys see the Harambe statue down in Wall Street? Yeah.
Yeah. Sweet Prince.
Our Sweet Prince. Gone too soon.
Just started getting over that.

Speaker 6 Abe strung together.

Speaker 4 I think it's too soon to have

Speaker 4 that statue. Yeah.
What if he had bad tweets? Yeah, that's true. We got to figure it out.

Speaker 6 I actually re-watched the video.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you think they should have shot the kid?

Speaker 4 Harambe was kind of slinging that baby around. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's just because he was so nurturing. He was saving it.
Yeah. The kid was going to drown.
He's a gorilla. He's a gorilla.
Yeah. Mike Francesa.
All right, you're cool throwing people?

Speaker 4 My cool throwing is Aaron Boone. Because Aaron Boone, as we alluded to earlier, the Yankees fans are down pretty bad right now.

Speaker 4 But no fear. Aaron Boone just got an extension.
And general manager Brian Cashman said, Aaron Boone is the solution. He isn't the problem.
So, congratulations. All your problems have been solved.

Speaker 4 Aaron Boone will now be your manager moving forward. So, you should be very confident in that.
I love it. I love it.
Aaron Boone. I think he's both the problem and the solution.

Speaker 4 He's the fourth winningest Yankee manager of all time. He's the first Yankee manager since 1922 to have his fifth year without winning a title.
So, that's some good continuity.

Speaker 4 Also, Yankee fans are just, they're completely glossing over the fact that Hal Steinbrenner gave Aaron Boone this contract, but demanded that they be better.

Speaker 4 So, like, problem solved. The thing that doesn't matter

Speaker 4 this year. Is they fired Joe Girardi nine innings away from going to the World Series in 2017 when they were the baby bombers with Judge, Glaver Torres.

Speaker 4 He wasn't even on the team yet, I don't think. But it was all the young guys, and they overachieved.
And then you have this terrible run of four years, and he gets an extension.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think you got to fire a manager with braces, though. To me, that was an issue from the get-go with Girardi.
It's tough to lead a locker room. But he won the wrong series with them.

Speaker 4 Aaron Judge is out there, and he needs braces, but he doesn't get them. No, he fixed them.
Oh, he did?

Speaker 6 He fixed the gap.

Speaker 4 Smart. Smart move.

Speaker 4 But, yeah, as far as Aaron Boone goes, I think his face just doesn't. give me any confidence that he's going to be able to lead.
I think they should have kept Girardi. I think so, too.

Speaker 4 I think that's probably...

Speaker 4 If If you had a time machine, you can go back. What do you call it? What's the Major League Baseball equivalent of a confetti quarterback, but except for a manager? Manager? Like a champagne manager?

Speaker 4 Yeah. A goggle.
A ski goggle manager. A ski goggle manager.
That was Girardi. Yeah, he was a ski goggle.

Speaker 4 Aaron Boone, not a ski goggle. Not a ski goggle manager.
Or they can just make a new stadium because they want it in the first year of the new Yankee Stadium. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 They might actually take you up on that. Yeah, that actually is.

Speaker 4 Don't give Hal some ideas.

Speaker 4 My hot seat was Hank because he fell for the classic prank. Chris Broussard.

Speaker 4 My cool drone is chili because chili season is back. Finally, we're under 60 degrees.
I died last night. I did too.
Thanks too.

Speaker 4 Under 60 degrees, finally, like it's just nice that we're in that crisp fall weather. So some people talk about soup season coming back.
Soup season, you never

Speaker 4 know. Nobody should ever stop with soup season.
Chili is

Speaker 4 in August. Chili is a different animal altogether.
Chili season has a season. Yeah, it weighs heavy, and it's great.
It's the best.

Speaker 4 You got to be. Chili season is about wearing a sweatshirt, eating some chili, getting toasty on the insides.
Yeah, and then shitting your brains out. Leftover chili.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Once they all start to marry the flavors, get to know each other in the pot.

Speaker 4 It's the best. So welcome to Chili Season.
Jake.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Waffle House Employees. So some waitress pulled a gun on someone who ordered cheese eggs because there was a miscommunication on

Speaker 4 if there should be cheese on the eggs or not.

Speaker 4 I'm struggling to find where the miscommunication could be for cheese eggs.

Speaker 4 She said,

Speaker 4 or excuse me, the person, the victim said, they didn't bring them to me, then they brought me normal eggs. And I said I ordered eggs or cheese on it.
It was all a normal dispute over food. Not at all.

Speaker 4 Huh.

Speaker 7 I feel like that's something Waffle House employees sign off on, though.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's anything. Waffle House employees should be authorized to carry handguns.
I think that's fine.

Speaker 4 Is it cheese eggs? Yeah. Yeah, no, it's their call.
Once you enter a Waffle House, you acknowledge.

Speaker 4 It's like, you know, if you walk into an amusement park and it says, by crossing this point, you accept the risk of death. Yes.

Speaker 4 That's the price you pay for going into a waffle house and getting to eat their patty melts and their grits and their smothered covered chunk peppered diced hash browns. And order like

Speaker 4 10 different meals and have the bill be like $14.

Speaker 4 You know what the best move at Waffle House is? Drinking accidentally four more cups of coffee than you ever would have if they weren't just walking by all the time being like, need a refill, hon.

Speaker 4 Fair. Uh, my cool throne is minor league baseball.
So, until this year, they've been dealing with the firefest of themselves, they weren't getting housing, now they're getting housing.

Speaker 4 Oh, there's like guys like pictures, true firefest, just sleeping on a mattress on the floor, so now they have housing, now they have housing. Wow, good for them, big up, stick up for the little guy.

Speaker 4 Isn't that technically human trafficking? I don't know. That's seen before you give them housing, kind of fucked up, but yeah, so that's being changed.
Okay, good for the minor league.

Speaker 4 Good for them, yeah, yeah. Problem solved,

Speaker 4 Sounds like they're in a good position financially. Yeah, everything's good now.
Billy.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is everyone, especially college football landscape, because Nick Saban apparently suffered a bruise when Texas AM stormed the field, and he showed it to everyone at a press conference.

Speaker 6 And he's been acting pretty erratically. We have a, you know, the most dangerous animal is a hurt animal.
And I think we have that on our hands with Nick Sabin. He was going after.

Speaker 4 Isn't it frightened animal or scared?

Speaker 6 Because if you're hurt, injured, an injured animal.

Speaker 4 But don't the coyotes go after the injured animals?

Speaker 6 No, but the injured animals are the most vicious.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Cornered cat. Exactly.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 But yeah, he was going after Bill O'Brien for a wasted timeout. So just watch that storyline.

Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 6 hot seat, people watch TikTok.

Speaker 6 Turns out a bunch of high school girls in Texas have started developed certain nervous ticks because they've been watching too much TikTok and start yelling out beans randomly.

Speaker 6 And it's it's actually a highly recorded epidemic. Like over a hundred people are recording.

Speaker 4 Sounds like this is yelling beans.

Speaker 6 This is terrible, Billy. You think this is crazy, but no, I don't.

Speaker 4 I believe you.

Speaker 6 I don't even want to watch the TikToks that are causing it.

Speaker 4 It's not fake, and you got duped. It's not fake.
Yeah. Wait, so all you have to do is watch a TikTok and then it's beans.
Oh shit, I have it too.

Speaker 6 No, it's real.

Speaker 4 I can't tell if this is

Speaker 4 elongated shit.

Speaker 4 They think it's a good thing. Well, he can he always claims.

Speaker 4 No, he's not bidding right now.

Speaker 4 This is not bit. bit.
Did you guys see this story? No. Well, then you didn't see that they're like contracting a certain beans disease? Yeah, they're yelling beans and other things.

Speaker 4 This is not bit disease.

Speaker 7 I actually got that too when I was in high school, except it was penis. And everyone would just yell penis.
I think when we went to the got in trouble, we said, no, it's actually just a nervous tick.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or the time that

Speaker 4 story about the kid who drew the dicks all over the place?

Speaker 7 And remember the three game? Yeah. This game, everyone couldn't lift their arms up and their hands were in threes and they put it below their their waist.

Speaker 4 What about that one school that had, it was like their homecoming, and there were three pigs that were running around the hallway, pig one, pig two, and pig four.

Speaker 4 Then they spent the next week looking for pig three.

Speaker 4 That was real, too. Classic.

Speaker 4 All right, this Wall Street Journal did write about it.

Speaker 4 Seriously, there's a bunch of

Speaker 6 younger people who are just yelling random shit and they're saying

Speaker 4 they're saying it in a British accent?

Speaker 6 Yeah, because there's a British TikToker who just yells beans all the time, and these girls can't stop yelling beans, and they're going to the the hospital for it.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm going to believe you. It's real.
Banes! Banes! Bains! Fuck!

Speaker 8 Bains! We're going to catch it.

Speaker 4 Bains! Bains!

Speaker 4 Alright, you're cool throwing Billy. Spains, isn't it?

Speaker 4 I know what I'm doing for my next fast. You fuck lads.
Baines.

Speaker 6 Turnover Props. University of Las Vegas has a new turnover prop.
It is a slot machine.

Speaker 4 And it always went. Oh, it's so awesome.
I saw it. It was pretty lit.

Speaker 6 Even though they're 0-6, like, going to the sideline after a turnover touchdown and pulling the lever has got to be pretty lit. Yeah.
Then have it go to ching all over the stadium. I like that.

Speaker 6 That's my hot teeth.

Speaker 4 It's very cool. It's very cool.
All right. Let's get to our interview with Paul Bissin.

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Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Paul Bissinet.
BizNasty. He doesn't go by BizNasty anymore.

Speaker 4 Who I go by? Mistinette. Yeah.
No, wait,

Speaker 4 you don't go by BizNasty, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do. Well, I don't.

Speaker 8 I mean, it was given to me when I was an early age playing hockey, and I think it's a little bit douchey in your 30s where people are like, yo, what's up, BizNasty?

Speaker 4 And you're like 36 years old across the street.

Speaker 4 Yeah, how did you get the nickname BizNasty? Because I feel like in hockey, it's very simple how you get the nicknames. It's either you add an O onto their name or you add like a K-Y

Speaker 4 onto whatever their name is. Busy? But you got, yeah, you should have been busy, but you were

Speaker 4 something so nasty that even for a hockey player,

Speaker 4 it stood out, and they gave you the nickname BizNast. Doesn't sound like you did it on the ice.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think that everybody's well aware who listens to the Spit and Chicklets podcast of why I got my nickname.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it had a lot to do with my early day antics in the American Hockey League, and it was given to me by a buddy named Stephen Dixon.

Speaker 4 Oh, what'd you call him?

Speaker 8 Was he Dickie? Dickie, yeah, Dickie.

Speaker 4 Dickie, Dicko.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. Dixie?

Speaker 8 Hey, but from the last time I was here, congratulations to Billy Football. He graduated.

Speaker 4 Yeah, full-time, graduated everything.

Speaker 4 He's

Speaker 8 political economics. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is that what it is? Gender studies is what he majored in.

Speaker 8 I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 4 It's a dual major between political science and economics.

Speaker 6 So it's a little multifaceted.

Speaker 4 It's a hybrid. If you have two majors, you don't have one.
Billy's going to run.

Speaker 6 Well, it's a combined.

Speaker 4 Basically, Billy's going to run the world one day. He is the future.

Speaker 8 Through blogs.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He is the future.

Speaker 4 We didn't congratulate you, by the way.

Speaker 4 Mr.

Speaker 4 TNT,

Speaker 4 on Wednesday nights, you can find Biz in some terrible-looking suits.

Speaker 8 Oh, worst suits ever.

Speaker 4 Ever.

Speaker 4 What was the thought process there? Because you knew, I would imagine that TNT didn't ask you to come on like the day before.

Speaker 4 You knew for what, six months, a year that you were going to be on national television, and you still showed up in that suit?

Speaker 8 No, I would say I probably had about two and a half months' notice and finally found somebody that I could get suits off of and trusted. And we're we're going back and forth and we're struggling.

Speaker 8 The good news is I had ones that I'd bought in about five years ago that have lasted me. They fit me well.
They're just a little bit beat up.

Speaker 8 The blue one maybe is a little bit tough but I think because I just got the new ones in and they didn't fit properly I'm going to have to go back to the hockey night in Canada on an acid blue blazer that I had in my warm-up routine.

Speaker 8 So I'm rotating three suits currently, which is not good when you're on national TV every week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but that's also I'm listening the suit game is very tough. I've only had one blazer for a very long time.

Speaker 8 It's tough. It's tough to find a good fit in high quality, even though you're paying them out of money.

Speaker 4 Have you thought about rocking the sweater vest? Because I think personally that you need to outdo Wayne. I think the way that you're going to alpha him on that set.

Speaker 4 I don't think anyone's ever called him. Where would I get a nice

Speaker 4 dad?

Speaker 8 Where would I get a nice sweater?

Speaker 4 Is that Wayne? Was it on the show's nickname? Gretzko? The great one. Gretzko.
I call him Wayne O. Wayne.
Wayne O. Yeah, I don't know how that was going to

Speaker 4 go. I think he likes it.
Were you now? Are you, obviously, he had to have been a hero of yours, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I bought the Gretzky aluminum when I was growing up. I mean, mind you,

Speaker 8 when he was damaging the league the way he was, when he was shattering records, I was still very, very young. Right.

Speaker 4 But still,

Speaker 4 he's the GOAT.

Speaker 8 Yes, he's the greatest of all time. I would say the most, at that time, the most dominant athlete to their sport at that particular time.

Speaker 4 So when you first, you had met him before, but this is your first time working with him in like an extensive situation here. So you're on TNT with him on Wednesday nights.

Speaker 4 Is there any amount of you that's like starstruck? Do you have to get over that?

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, at first, but he does such a good job of like calming everyone down. He's just like a regular guy.
And one thing he's unreal at is remembering all these old school stories.

Speaker 8 And he can deliver them like they happened yesterday. Like, I don't know how he remembers all these stories throughout the years.

Speaker 8 I mean, some of which he shares on air, some of which are more behind the scenes. But I hope that there's going to become the right time where he can eventually tell a bunch of these things on air.

Speaker 8 Because you're just left in awe. So

Speaker 8 he befriended me pretty quick. I mean, he FaceTimed me after we did our practice round.
We went there a couple weeks ago. And then all that weekend, he was keeping in contact through tech.

Speaker 8 So I was like, I felt like

Speaker 4 I felt like the man. That's pretty cool.
Emojis?

Speaker 8 He's not an emoji guy.

Speaker 4 Gift guy? Does he emphasize?

Speaker 8 What is emphasizing? Like when you get...

Speaker 4 Do you have an iPhone? I have an iPhone. So when you get the thumbs up, or you get the heart that comes off of a message?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he might be an emphasizer. Yeah.
Yeah, come to think of it.

Speaker 8 You mean like when you hold on to the

Speaker 4 pad or something?

Speaker 8 Yeah, either him or his son Ty who's helping out with us.

Speaker 4 Those are Ty is kind of the go between.

Speaker 4 Used to be in the Cubs organization.

Speaker 8 No, Trevor was.

Speaker 4 Trevor was drafted as a baseball player.

Speaker 8 He does some acting now. He was actually just in that recent,

Speaker 8 they did a reboot of the Saws.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 8 who's the one guy? Oh, God, I'm drawing a blank. Is it Chris?

Speaker 4 William Frock.

Speaker 8 I think Chris Rock was in it.

Speaker 4 Is that true?

Speaker 4 Google it.

Speaker 4 Do something, Hank, for fuck's sake. Paul, how many goals do you think you would have scored if you played in Wayne Gretzky's era? More or less than Gretzky did?

Speaker 8 More because everybody was boozing and having a good time off the ice.

Speaker 8 So I felt like it was an even keel process where everyone was kind of in agreement, hey, we're going to get banged up after every single game. We're going to have a boatload of fun.

Speaker 8 The only thing that changed, though, is the amount that guys were making.

Speaker 8 It became more serious because salaries started becoming crazier and crazier.

Speaker 8 Back in the 80s,

Speaker 8 if you were making a good contract, you were making like 100 grand.

Speaker 4 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 Who else is on the show?

Speaker 8 Rick Tockett, who actually played a little bit with Wayne, and then he helped coach with him as well. So

Speaker 8 Taucket won a Stanley Cup with the Pittsburgh Penguins with Mario.

Speaker 8 I believe after that, at some point, he he got shipped off to L.A. where he played with him.
So

Speaker 8 he's coached the last couple years with the Arizona Coyotes. He won two Stanley Cups as an assistant in Pittsburgh.
He was a head coach in Tampa at some point.

Speaker 8 So he's just been around the game forever and has a lot of insight and things to talk about. Anson Carter is another guy, had a great career, played with the Sedines.

Speaker 8 And then Liam McCain.

Speaker 4 You're not allowed to call him the Sedine Sisters.

Speaker 8 I would never do that.

Speaker 4 No one has ever. Who made that mistake?

Speaker 8 Jamie Benn?

Speaker 4 I want to say.

Speaker 8 Or was it Seggen?

Speaker 4 I can't remember.

Speaker 8 Somebody on radio said it, and the internet blew up. You got to be careful what you say it in hockey because

Speaker 8 the media tends to lean very much towards the left, so you don't want to overstep your boundaries because they will make you pay.

Speaker 4 Well, what about this? If you had to rank like ATT, you were co-hosts on TNT. Dave Bowling.
That you had to. Oh, was it Dave Bowling? Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, you did it on radio.

Speaker 8 Well, my apologies. I'll take back the Ben in Sega.

Speaker 4 I thought it was someone from Dallas. So, who would you have a threesome with on this set?

Speaker 8 Like, between all of us?

Speaker 4 No, no, like Gretzky.

Speaker 4 You know what? I'm going to step in and not even let you answer that question because I don't want the hotel.

Speaker 8 Did you guys see Charles there that first one?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I did. That was great.
Oh, he was so funny. How come you didn't get a chance to shoot on Charles?

Speaker 8 Because they wanted Wayne to. Yeah.
They wanted the Greats going against the Greats.

Speaker 4 I did like your analysis, though, when they had a question for you about the power play and what you would have done in this position. You were just like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I would have been on the other side.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I can't contribute in this area. That's just me keeping my credibility exactly where it needs to be.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're honest. I actually do think that how many times have people at Turner been like, you're going to be the Charles Barkley of hockey?

Speaker 8 They don't say anything. That's the beauty of it there.
They say, hey, bring what you normally bring and throw it all together and we'll see what works.

Speaker 8 So, I mean, yeah, I tend to try to bring it a little bit more lighthearted because

Speaker 8 I don't necessarily have the credibility that the other guys on the panel do. I think Anson played 10 years, maybe a little bit above that.
I mean, Tockett had the career that he's had.

Speaker 8 He's actually getting inducted into the Philadelphia Flyers Hall of Fame, like that ring of honor there.

Speaker 8 So I don't know if he's eventually going to be a Hall of Famer, but he actually set the NHL record for.

Speaker 8 We got Wayne with all the records that he's got, and Tockett's got one record, most Gordy Howe hat-tricks.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 8 yeah, which is cool. He's got 18 of them where he got a goal and an assist and a fight in the same game.
So

Speaker 8 Tockett Talkett played for the Flyers during that era where they had six heavyweights on the team and nobody fucked around.

Speaker 4 Broad Street bullies.

Speaker 8 He told us a story of where I think it was the Rangers called up Dale Purrington and he was kind of, you know, he's getting all amped up and warm up, kind of trying to send the message across the, you know, you skate close to the red line and stuff.

Speaker 8 And they had Craig Barubay on their team. And after a couple shifts of him running around, he went up to Brian Leach and he started stretching on their bench, like stretching his hamstring.

Speaker 8 And he goes, Leech, he goes, he goes, I'll fight him, but I'm going to jump you unless you tell him to calm down. And then Leechy went down the bench.

Speaker 8 He was like, hey, Dale, I think you're done running around.

Speaker 8 Because Barubé was nothing to, he was no joke, man. He would fucking go toe-to-toe.

Speaker 8 And his talk said, he goes, if I was ever in a bar fight, if there was one guy I'd want who just, when the wires cross, I don't think I'd ever see him lose a fight. It's Craig Barubé.

Speaker 8 So he basically bullied the St. Louis Blues into winning a Stanley Cup,

Speaker 8 if I could take it there.

Speaker 8 So you went out to dinner with Chuck and gretzky i was out yeah i was out for them how was that it was great man i was picking chuck's brain on just like how how he he felt coming into his you know inside the nba when he did did and you know what we should come to expect like what if the game's a little bit boring and he's like man honestly just like be honest about it maybe turn on another game and start gambling on it like not not not seriously but he just kind of he he definitely calmed things down and then when we had him on after our first segment to open the show just his humor and the fact that he'd been there and done that, I think it really eased up everybody else where we were able to, you know, I thought we execute a pretty good first show.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 we're trying to figure it out. We're trying to be as entertaining as what people want and elevate the game.

Speaker 8 So just having him, you know, not only be there, but also talk to us the night before was nice.

Speaker 4 And he actually, he is a hockey fan.

Speaker 4 I think he's a Blackhawks fan, isn't he?

Speaker 8 I think he hops around. I think he's on the Bieber plan where they just,

Speaker 8 whatever arenas he's in, he's put the jersey on.

Speaker 4 I remember I've seen him at a couple Hawks games, so that's what I thought. But yeah, okay, that's not.
I mean,

Speaker 4 that's a good plan to be on if you're

Speaker 4 not a die-hard hockey fan. What was his order at dinner? Ooh, good question.
Charles Barkley, wait, let me guess. What do you think, Piquet? What do you think Charles Barkley?

Speaker 4 I think he got the biggest steak out there. Yeah, steak, mashed potatoes.
No, did he get chicken at a steakhouse?

Speaker 8 No, he got a burger without the bun.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 Can we

Speaker 4 try to watch his weight? What do you mean?

Speaker 8 I respect the order. He's watching himself.

Speaker 4 It strikes me, and this is speaking from experience.

Speaker 8 Are you trying to like anti-fat chain?

Speaker 4 No, no.

Speaker 4 What I'm saying is Chuck strikes me as, again, speaking from experience, as a guy who orders a burger without a bun when you're out with company and then goes home and crushes a bunch of ice cream.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 you don't want to seem like the fat guy in front of other people, but then when you get home in the comfort of your own home.

Speaker 8 I think he looks good. I mean, he's golfing a lot.

Speaker 4 He looks good.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, when I'm that age, I'll probably have a couple LBs on me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, maybe

Speaker 4 I like to think what he's doing is he's going out, getting the burger without the bun so that he can have all those cocktails and beers with dinner. Like, you got to push and pull sometimes, right?

Speaker 4 So it's like, yeah, if I get no bun on this burger, then I can have three more whiskey sours.

Speaker 8 That's another way of looking at it.

Speaker 8 You got a calorie count when you're that age.

Speaker 4 Yes. All right, let's talk some hockey.
So about this season.

Speaker 4 The Coyotes stink.

Speaker 8 Coyotes are not looking good. They're in full tank mode for Shane Wright, who's an up-and-comer.

Speaker 8 Every so often you get a guy who's going to be like a generational player, and they're thinking that this Shane Wright kid is the real deal.

Speaker 8 He played as a double underager in the OHL. What does that mean?

Speaker 8 So I was drafted in the first two rounds of my OHL draft when I was 16 years old. That made me eligible so I could play as a 16-year-old.

Speaker 8 This kid was so special that they were like, hey, he shouldn't even wait another year to be drafted to play against kids from 16 to 20 because he's just going to light these kids up in junior B or wherever he is.

Speaker 8 So we need him going up and playing the highest level of possible hockey in Canada at the age of 15. And I think

Speaker 8 I think he led his team in scoring.

Speaker 4 So he was 15 playing against 20-year-olds.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and then that second year when he was an underage, he was like captain of the team. And he's just, he's the real deal.
It seems as he can handle the pressure every year. He's coming back.

Speaker 8 He's basically on the trajectory where he would be like a similar to like a Crosby. You never know if they're going to eventually live up to that.

Speaker 8 because so Connor McDavid was another kid who was a double underager and he's the he's the he's the next guy who in the OHL has been a double underage. So the pressure's on, right?

Speaker 8 And you don't know how some of these guys are going to mount to it, if it's going to affect them, but he is just so hyper-focused on it and he's he's doing an incredible job. So

Speaker 8 that's where the

Speaker 8 worse before you get better. And especially in the NHL, like Coyotes have always been,

Speaker 8 I think the best they've ever drafted is third. You need to get those generational players to start somewhere.
Pittsburgh got it there. Washington got it with Ovetsky.
Blackhawks.

Speaker 4 Kane and Taves. Yeah, like, yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 Taves was a third overall pick.

Speaker 8 I want to say Kane was first. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah, they were fortunate where, because even that third overall pick sometimes, it doesn't end up panning out.
It's dicey. It's very dicey.

Speaker 8 I mean, and not to take anything away from...

Speaker 8 from Dylan Strome, but, you know, Dylan Strone was a third overall pick for the Coyotes.

Speaker 8 Kyle Turris, I believe, was a third overall pick for the Coyotes.

Speaker 8 So I'm really hoping, and it sucks that a team has to go through a year where they're going to lose as much as they're probably going to lose.

Speaker 8 But for the betterment of the organization, tank for Shane Wright.

Speaker 4 Okay, so what's his game like? Shano. Is he a Shano? We got to give him a nickname right now.
Or Wrightsky. Reitzky.
Wrightski. Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 Shano. I like Shano.
Shane Sky.

Speaker 8 Whatever the fuck you guys want.

Speaker 4 You guys are the nickname guys. I don't give a shit.
Wright-O.

Speaker 4 Shane Nasty? Shane Nasty. Shane Nasty.
We got it, boys. We got it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what's his game like? He's going to have to fuck a donkey like you did in AHL. What?

Speaker 4 To get Shane nasty. You fucking Zandag inside.

Speaker 8 One donkey?

Speaker 4 Just one?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you got to slay a few.

Speaker 4 You went to that barn.

Speaker 8 Yeah, got to slay a few.

Speaker 8 What is the term? You got to slay a few

Speaker 8 dragons to get to the princess.

Speaker 4 Got to kiss a few frogs to get your prince. Just so people know.
Yeah, you got to. I was actually talking a literal donkey.
Yeah, you gotta have donkeys.

Speaker 4 Animal donkey. You gotta have a few frogs in order to get to the.
All of a sudden, Billy's like, that's not so bad.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy fucks frogs. Did you know that? Oh, you're a frog fucker? Yeah, for real.

Speaker 4 Like, you fucking

Speaker 8 fit right in the A. Can you fight?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 War mode.

Speaker 4 War mode. Well, you, oh, no, you fucking built.
I don't even know if we've talked since you beat up Jose. Joseph Jose.
Yeah. Jose.
You knocked him out.

Speaker 8 How did that all work out? Did you end up making some pretty good coin off of it?

Speaker 4 We did end up. We did talk.
After After that, we were at the winter. CT works.

Speaker 8 What are we on to next?

Speaker 4 All right, so Shane Nasty. That would be sick.
The Sabres are the best team in the NHL right now. We're only one week in.
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 8 No, we didn't expect that. The whole team's on deals for $750K.
But I'll tell you what, an awesome fan base that deserves something to cheer about.

Speaker 8 But I think that they're going to end up right at the bottom of the basement against the Coyotes.

Speaker 4 Are they going to trade Jack Eichel?

Speaker 8 They're trying. I don't know how many people who listen to your podcast are kind of all up on the hockey drama.

Speaker 4 Give it to us. Tell us.

Speaker 8 So he's dealing with a herniated disc in his neck, right? And fusion surgery has been one that they've relied on to fix what he's going through in the past.

Speaker 8 Now, that fusion surgery, you don't always know what you're going to get where a lot of guys end up having to keep re-getting the surgery.

Speaker 8 I want to say that Tiger Woods did it on his back and then time over time has continued to have to get fusion surgery. Because you want to be a Navy SEAL, either.

Speaker 8 There's a new surgery where I want to say it's a four-month recovery where they do like a disc replacement.

Speaker 8 And I know it's like...

Speaker 4 It sounds terrible. Yeah,

Speaker 8 I guess the issue that the organization's having with it is that it's never been done on a hockey player, and so they have nothing to base it off of where the fusion surgery has.

Speaker 8 So they want him to get that fusion surgery, and they have final say because they're paying his salary where you're allowed to get a second opinion in the NHL.

Speaker 8 Oftentimes, there's not much bickering back and forth because you're talking maybe about like a broken ankle or something that's not as severe as like a hernated disc in your neck.

Speaker 8 And they're in a battle right now because he wants to get this

Speaker 8 disc replacement surgery as opposed to the fusion. I don't know if it's the organization being poopy pants about the fact that he's been there.

Speaker 8 I don't know exactly, but he's been there enough time and done enough good things and played well enough where he's probably like, hey, you guys aren't fixing this problem anytime soon.

Speaker 8 Our team is shit. We're going to finish in the bottom five year after year after year, and I'm miserable.
I want to go play on a good team where things are a little easier, where I'm going to win.

Speaker 8 And I don't know what would be a good example in the football realm to compare it to, but

Speaker 8 they're at a standstill. It seems like it's eking towards that, that they're going to end up trading him.
But other teams are now a little weary of being like, okay, well, we want...

Speaker 8 We want to be incentivized where if he does end up getting surgery and he doesn't play that many games and it's maybe a career ender or he's just never the same.

Speaker 8 Well, if we gave you four unbelievable assets for this this guy that we thought, so there's risk involved now.

Speaker 8 So it's just a very sticky situation, and it sucks because it's an Olympic year and this guy is a very special player for Team USA.

Speaker 8 And there's something about representing your country in the Olympics that hockey player is like, that's like a lot of what they care about.

Speaker 8 And I think it's eating them alive. And I just hope the situation gets resolved.
And the longer it gets backed up, it's probably not going to look like he's going to play in the Olympics.

Speaker 8 And I know I've been long-winded about this, but it's a shitty, shitty shitty situation.

Speaker 4 What's the recovery time like on the fusion?

Speaker 8 I think that the fusion is surprisingly, and don't quote me on this, I think you can come back a little bit sooner. Like a weekend.

Speaker 8 But this is something that you're probably going to have to keep getting when you're retired.

Speaker 8 And that's what's not sitting well with me as just somebody from the outside looking in where it's like, well, if a fan wants to be frustrated because he's not taking the team's advice, it's like, well, I get that they paid him a big contract that's going to last for eight years at $10 million a year, but I also don't think this guy should be forced to making a commitment that's going to last him to make a decision for the rest of his life as far as his health.

Speaker 4 It sounds like NBA players, when they have the knee surgery and it's like they could get the

Speaker 4 long surgery or they get it cleaned up knowing that eventually, like Dwayne Wade,

Speaker 4 his knees are like bone on bone because he always went with the shorter version of the surgery and like getting him back on the court as quickly as possible.

Speaker 8 And I think as an athlete, sometimes like, I, you know, I, you're, I played on a torn ACL, right? And then I end up tearing my other one.

Speaker 4 No, I'm tough. Hey, Tommy, tough guy over here.
Biz forgets to tell the part that he's too dumb to realize he had a torn ACL.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's the, yeah, but, but, you, I always, I would imagine Dwayne Wade's all right, and he's going to have enough people to give him proper therapy given what he made, and he sucked it up and played through.

Speaker 8 And I think that there's definitely a lot of respect in that situation.

Speaker 8 But who knows, maybe he would have regrets with it when he's 50, being like, oh, my goodness, I didn't know that a decision I was making then was going to cause me so much pain

Speaker 8 for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those are real, like, those are real-life implications.

Speaker 8 Those are just the that's the athlete side of it. And some people would be like, Well, you made fucking 250 million.
Who cares? It's just like, ah, well, okay, well, that's a very short-minded thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, walking is nice.

Speaker 4 It still tells you, like, no matter how much money you make, when you get out of bed in the morning and your knee sucks and you can't bend it, like, there's nothing they can do to fix that.

Speaker 4 The money's not going to fix that. No, yeah, no, I mean, there's a reason why people talk about health being like number one over money, over anything.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like, you know, being able to walk, being able to be mobile, being able to have, you know, a life that you enjoy.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 We went really serious there, but

Speaker 8 we only got through the Sabres. You want to talk about any of the good teams?

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, let's talk about the Meafields. Well, the Sabres are...
They're good, right? They're winning right now.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about the Leafs, though, because the Leafs, it was another year of the same old for the Leafs last year. Big expectations.

Speaker 4 And, I mean, we pay real close attention to hockey in the offseason, so we know all the things that they've done to try to improve that team, to try to turn things around.

Speaker 4 Maybe our listeners, one or two of them, might not know. So, maybe you could tell us,

Speaker 4 even though we already know, and our listeners could also find out, what have the Maple Leafs done differently to change the trajectory of that franchise, excuse me, organization?

Speaker 8 It's hard because when they made that strong financial commitment to those four players, John Taveras, I think William Nielander is probably actually even better than what he's making.

Speaker 4 Most important player?

Speaker 8 He signed a deal where I think he makes around seven, maybe just over seven, which he's actually, in my opinion, based on last year's playoff performance and what he did last year and what he's going to do, I think he's right at that fair number.

Speaker 8 It's just hard, these young guys in the NHL, because the league is getting so young when you're that special in your entry-level contract, they seem to at least have, in that case, the team by the ball.

Speaker 8 So Marner and Matthews ended up getting just over 11 million, close to 11.5 million.

Speaker 4 What's the cap at right now?

Speaker 8 And then with COVID in that situation, it stalled the cap. So the cap's at 82.5 million.

Speaker 4 That's insane.

Speaker 8 So they have, I think I want to say,

Speaker 8 they have 40 to 45% of their money invested into four players. And

Speaker 8 in hockey, it's just hard. If you're not snapping the money around, it's just hard to win and rely on those types of players.

Speaker 8 So you have to find cheap replacements in order to win, which I think that they found a couple good players in that bunting and then Richie, who was actually in Boston.

Speaker 8 And they're getting tried out on the top lines there.

Speaker 8 So if they can have those guys scoring 20, 25 goals at making what they make, that's going to get them hopefully over the edge to where they at least make a little run and get some experience.

Speaker 8 They have a solid back end.

Speaker 8 They have a decent tandem and net, but it's really going to rely on these guys when they get the playoff without having shown that experience because every time they really seem to just not be able to do it.

Speaker 8 And in this situation last year, they just flat out choked.

Speaker 8 And I think the pressure is mounting on the fact that they're making so much money.

Speaker 8 More so, I believe, Mitch Marner, but I'm confident that they're going to be able to get over that edge this year.

Speaker 4 And you didn't get circumcised. But this year you're going to cut off your dick if they don't make the playoffs?

Speaker 8 If they don't make the playoffs, I've doubled down on my foreskin challenge where I'm going to double down.

Speaker 4 You could chop my whole cock off and keep it if that fucking teams keep it.

Speaker 8 We should just put it in a jar on the shelf in here.

Speaker 4 Done. Yep.
Done.

Speaker 4 Like, hey, you see that over there? We should.

Speaker 8 Hey, we should start a tequila.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's like

Speaker 4 a turn. Foreskin is the worm? Yeah.
That's not a bad idea. Yeah,

Speaker 4 Calamari tequila. Yeah, that would sell like Pink Whitney?

Speaker 4 Pink Nasty. Yeah.
That's a great name for it. Just like a tiny bit of foreskin at the bottom of the bottle.
Blue ball tequila. Yeah.
Pink Whitney's crushing it still.

Speaker 8 Pink Whitney's doing well. So I know we got on the Toronto talk.
There was another team that you mentioned in there.

Speaker 4 It's mostly Jay. I'm curious to know, like, in the case of the Maple Leafs, since they've choked so much in the players.

Speaker 4 you what do you do if you've got like the same nucleus of players coming back and they've shown that they're going to be chokers what do you do you're a glue guy you probably had all the unorthodox ideas about like let's let's go out and get into a fight let's do something a little bit different make the blood start pumping a little heavier they're they're going through something similar to what washington did where they had those that that strong core early on but they had to just figure out and move some pieces right they had mike green was their defenseman when you were probably started cheering for them when you were wearing your jankos that's not true i started cheering for him back when they had Chris Simon.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah. Bonsai.

Speaker 8 Yeah, when he was slashing guys and all those guys.

Speaker 4 No, before he did that. Oh, before it? I think he

Speaker 4 disavowed him. Before he did that, I just knew he was going to.
But no, like, yeah, Mike Green was a guy that he was great for the regular season where he'd score a bunch of goals defensively.

Speaker 4 And then the playoffs, it's like you're going to need somebody that can actually put the clamps on the other team's best scorer if he's going to be your star defender.

Speaker 8 Here's how I'd summarize it. Remember those years where Boston hadn't won for so long and all of a sudden they were down, I think, 3-0

Speaker 8 to the Yankees? Oh, yeah. And they ended up coming back in that series, and that's what propelled them to eventually winning that title.
And now they got over the hump, so now they're good as of late.

Speaker 8 Toronto needs that moment. They're going to have to seize that moment whenever it comes.

Speaker 8 I thought it was going to be them getting over Montreal with the fact that it even went to seven, but here we are.

Speaker 8 And I hope that they can because there's so much fucking pressure on those kids in that city.

Speaker 4 They deal with

Speaker 4 very long time.

Speaker 8 That's like being a Yankee and making all the money and dealing with the constant pressure.

Speaker 4 Earning your pinstripes.

Speaker 4 The league has caught up to the Maple Leafs at this point. Yes.

Speaker 4 In Boone's words. Biz, you think

Speaker 4 Sidney Crosby is going to be traded to the Colorado Avalanche.

Speaker 8 No, I don't actually.

Speaker 4 The most southern team in

Speaker 4 the NHL.

Speaker 8 The Colorado Southern thing is still up for debate.

Speaker 8 Sean, what was the point you made about.

Speaker 4 we were talking before we started recording, and he was like, It's more southern than Tennessee. And I'm like, No, no, it's not.
It's also, again, it's mountain west.

Speaker 4 Like, that's how you would describe it. Fair mountains.
Fair. It's neither north nor south.

Speaker 8 I'm willing to concede, but I don't think it's the stupidest thing ever said on this podcast.

Speaker 4 You got born way out of proportion.

Speaker 8 But it was, well, I've been getting meme to death over it. This, yeah.
Mehmed. I've been getting Mehmed is what it would say.

Speaker 4 But Crosby to the

Speaker 4 so to the south?

Speaker 8 I thought that maybe the fact that the Penguins were maybe tailing off a little bit, they'd consider it.

Speaker 8 I don't think that they would ever do it because Mario has come out and said that they'll probably never move him. And usually, when he says that, that's probably going to be the case.

Speaker 8 I was just getting more in fantasy lab at the fact that it would have been cool if him and Nate McKinnon would have collabed and come together and play on the same team.

Speaker 4 What's up with the Avalanche? Because that was another team last year.

Speaker 4 It felt like they were going to roll through the playoffs, and then they hit one bump in the road, and it was just over like that.

Speaker 8 That just shows the parody in the NHL and how you got to be clicking at the right time when playoffs times come around.

Speaker 8 And yeah, they ran into the Vegas Golden Knights who, you know, they shut down that top line. I thought their defense let them down a little bit, and maybe Grubauer wasn't the guy in net.

Speaker 8 So, Grubauer wanted a big contract this offseason. They moved on.

Speaker 8 They actually ended up picking up Darcy Kemper from the Arizona Coyotes, who I believe is a he's going to probably be an Olympian this year, and he's one of the best goals in the league. So,

Speaker 8 like I said, with Toronto, they moved a few pieces to see, hey, is this the way that the puzzle is going to fit now? Got it.

Speaker 4 What about Seattle? The Kraken. Are we believers in the Kraken? I like their jerseys.
Their jerseys are sick. You know what I really liked about the Kraken?

Speaker 4 Is night one, they came out there, they scrapped. It's like, yeah, we're going to fight.
We're going to establish ourselves as being like, there's some Kraken pride. Also, I know that you have to.

Speaker 8 Oh, are you talking about the fan? You see the fan fight?

Speaker 4 That was in Nashville.

Speaker 8 So that was a couple games into the season.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 how could you be fighting over a team that you've been rooting for for one month? That's what I love about it.

Speaker 4 They know that the weight of the future of their franchise is on them and they have to set a tone right off the bat. They're establishing a culture.
Also, I don't want to tell,

Speaker 4 I know you work for the NHL, so I'm not trying to bash the NHL in any way, but it was a very MLB type move in the worst sense to have opening night the Kraken not at home.

Speaker 4 I tuned in and I was like, can't wait to see Seattle. Oh, the Kraken are in Las Vegas.

Speaker 8 Oh, I think either way, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 I mean, that was.

Speaker 8 How about the show that Vegas puts on?

Speaker 4 It would have been nice. I thought about this too.

Speaker 4 They get a second pop, though. There you go.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 4 When is their opening night?

Speaker 4 The brains behind the podcast speech. All right.
All right. So now.

Speaker 4 I literally tuned in.

Speaker 8 This is what opening day of baseball is. Fucking 20 milligrams Seattle, and then day two, it's like, bloop.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Can't get it off.
So you think we're going to get 20 milligrams of Cialis when we open up the Kraken's new place?

Speaker 8 100%. Crackhead tilts in the crowd.

Speaker 8 I bet you know I bet you no way fans even consider going there now because they're coming and swinging hostile territory well we know that in Seattle it's a mutual combat state yeah you can elect to fight somebody and as long as they agree to fist fight you no weapons involved it's not illegal that's yeah they have a they have an octagon on the concourse yes that you can just sign up for and that's showing you know you go to the bar you ride the bull that's how they do it with the crackheads are they actually going to be good though I think they're going to be competitive.

Speaker 8 They got a bunch of like crafty hockey players. So

Speaker 8 because of the rules that they set up in place. And I was talking to someone recently about this when Atlanta ended up getting a team.

Speaker 8 Well, they just, they didn't really set them up for success where people were probably like, okay, well, they're losing off the hop and they're really never able to get.

Speaker 4 What about Danny Heatley? Yeah,

Speaker 8 they were able to get a few of those like generational type players. They ended up getting Colville Chuck.

Speaker 8 I believe Marion Hoso was there for a little bit, but they weren't able to assemble a good team.

Speaker 8 With the way that they've structured it, and you saw with the Golden Knights, they were competitive in that first year,

Speaker 8 that teams have to give up that really solid third-line player and guys who maybe never got the opportunity on these good teams because their top six were so good, where maybe if they were given a little bit more time and a little bit more power play time, they would be able to contribute and put up points very similar to what other teams in the top six can do.

Speaker 8 And I think that they did this. They got hit by the COVID bug early on.
So I personally don't think that they're going to make playoffs, even though they're in the weakest division in the NHL.

Speaker 8 I think that they're going to be a cusp team, but then they're going to be able to ditch some assets at the deadline in order to acquire more.

Speaker 8 And I think that they're going to be a very good team with a very, very solid foundation as far as the fan base.

Speaker 4 They did a really good job with the jerseys and the color scheme. I love it.
I think it's awesome. I can't wait to watch this.

Speaker 4 All the social everything.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Saturday night against Vancouver. There we go.
And they put border battle up there. That's the border battle.
Border battle.

Speaker 4 A weird thing. That I didn't even realize until yesterday, and I'd love for you to explain to me what's going on with the islanders they are starting the season with 18 road games 13 road games 18.

Speaker 4 can you look that up marty mush told me 18 so maybe it's not right eight

Speaker 4 i just want to i want a clarification 13 i want to keep this you probably are right you probably

Speaker 4 sorry 13 road games marty mush thank you you fucking loser he said 18.

Speaker 4 uh 13 road games that's crazy though that is that's that's insane yeah a lot of rubbers on the road um what you You got to pack a lot of rubbers for the road. Yeah, that's true.
That's a fact.

Speaker 8 So that's like one of your carry-ons.

Speaker 4 Yeah, is that just like a communal you have a fishbowl? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's like the Olympics where they kind of just put them in the village. Yeah.
And they're done after two days.

Speaker 4 At what point, though, is the road trip like that's got to wear on them by game seven?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 8 yeah, because you're basically on the road for a solid, I would say, month.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 8 much rather started out on the road knowing that you have all those back end at home games than do it all.

Speaker 8 But yeah, I'd imagine the boys are a little rattled by that, but they get to come back and play in their new building, which looks awesome, and they're going to have a brand new setup, and I'm sure they're going to be thrilled about that.

Speaker 8 And I'll tell you what, they have not had a good start to the season, but this is a very, very good team.

Speaker 4 So maybe

Speaker 4 buy them at when, maybe if they lose a little bit more at the start of the season, hammer them. Buy the stock then.

Speaker 8 I think they were 17 to 1 to start the year. And I mean, you might have got them at like 18 or 19 to one now.
Yeah. Because they lost the two first games.
Maybe. I don't know.

Speaker 8 Does it change that quickly?

Speaker 4 They don't play at home until November 20th. Yeah.
So it's

Speaker 4 finishing the construction on their new barn. A lot of rubbers.
New barn.

Speaker 4 What about the Rangers?

Speaker 4 Did they actually fix the problems that they had? Because I saw they had, what, Reevo?

Speaker 8 They were playing a little bit of tummy sticks there in the first game. I thought Revo was going to come out, and then they had

Speaker 8 Ovi mic'd up, and they were like, hey, how's your summer going, pal? Ha ha.

Speaker 8 By the way, how about that first game by Ovi?

Speaker 4 Pretty good. Rumors of his demise were inaccurately reported.
Those were premature. Ovi's back.
Because he can stay in his office and score goals for the next five years.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to pass Wayne Gretzky. I do.
Because if the league hasn't figured out how to stop that shot after how many years he's been in there, what, 17 years, 16 years?

Speaker 4 He can continue to do that for five years, right?

Speaker 8 What'd you make of his mass mutual commercial?

Speaker 4 I haven't seen that one yet. You haven't seen it? Oh, is that Baxter? That's the one where he's like in his house or whatever.

Speaker 4 yeah with his wife and and backstroom yeah i love it i love it ov can sell me anything i'll buy it from him but yeah that first that first uh game against the rangers i thought that the rangers are trying to like remake their image a little bit after tom wilson essentially destroyed the franchise last year he flexed on them single-handedly made everybody quit they had to issue another one of those apology statements that the rangers have gotten so good at but then they fired popcorn vendors over it yeah exactly they fired basically the entire front office kind of cleaned the house a little bit.

Speaker 4 Now they've got, they brought in Reeves to try to be like, hey, we're not going to get pushed around anymore.

Speaker 4 But I felt like opening night was the, that was the time to come out and send a message like, hey, this is a different Rangers team than the one that you saw last year. And they didn't do it at all.

Speaker 8 No, tummy sticks. It was flat.

Speaker 4 Tummy sticks, exactly.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I thought they played solid in that first period, but just far too many mistakes. So the knock on the Rangers is they...
They're like riverboat gamblers.

Speaker 8 They tend to open up the middle of the ice too much in order to try to create offense.

Speaker 8 So you'll see, yeah, no, it's a you're gonna have you're gonna see six, five games, five, four games, and it's entertaining, but it's a little bit difficult to win.

Speaker 8 And that's why you saw Trots and the success he brought Washington when he said, guys, you can play like this and you could put up these crazy numbers till the end of time, but I don't know if you're going to bring home any hardware.

Speaker 8 And then he had them buy into that.

Speaker 4 The President's Cup. Yeah, where it's like several of those.

Speaker 8 I want to take that risk offensively, but it's probably not the right time right now. And

Speaker 8 I think that Gerard Gallant will help them out eventually and they'll figure out the way. They still got a lot of young guys in that lineup, too.

Speaker 8 So if they can start figuring out and make contributions, I've been bullish on the Rangers. I said that they're going to make playoffs.
I said that Washington's not.

Speaker 8 I'm looking like a fucking idiot right now because Washington looked really good in that first game. But I'm still confident in this Ranger squad.

Speaker 4 What about the Lightning? How are the Lightning cheating this year?

Speaker 8 They're not. They just had to replenish that bottom six.
Yeah, they're not. Everybody was all poopy pants about long-term IR situation.
Yeah, it was poopy pants.

Speaker 8 I guess it's a way around it, just like it is the state. I consider the state tax thing a way to get around signing guys cheaper.
Yep.

Speaker 8 So they kind of had the best of both worlds, but hey, if you can manipulate the rules, man.

Speaker 8 I mean, that's how the Patriots won seven titles.

Speaker 4 Or do they win six?

Speaker 4 It helps when you... Six? It helps when your quarterback is married to like a billionaire, essentially.
So that way, your income check doesn't really make that much of a difference.

Speaker 4 So you can keep restructuring it. Do the Lightning have anybody that's married to a supermodel?

Speaker 8 Is Giselle a billionaire?

Speaker 7 Yeah, she makes way more than he does.

Speaker 4 Still,

Speaker 4 how she's international, yeah,

Speaker 4 she's hot. She's number one.

Speaker 7 Football is just an American sport.

Speaker 4 If you're beautiful enough, people just pay you. Yeah, it's like thank you everything.
Thank you for being here. Yeah, you're pleasant to look at.

Speaker 8 How much do you make from that?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's most of my paycheck

Speaker 4 from the knees down.

Speaker 4 Did you

Speaker 4 work out with Gretzky now?

Speaker 8 So we do, yeah,

Speaker 8 we stay at the... I don't want to stay at the hotel, actually.
Sorry. No, say it.
I don't want to fucking. Actually,

Speaker 8 that's one story.

Speaker 8 So we finished our first time at TNC last week, and Charles recommended we go to this pub afterward because you can't go to sleep right after that. You're all wound up for six hours doing live TV.

Speaker 8 And we leave at around 3.10 after it closed. And there was four seekers there waiting to get Wayne autographs.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 8 It never fucking ends, man. This guy can't get away from anything.
So there are seekers outside the hotel. And I feel bad for the guy.

Speaker 8 He can't go anywhere and just not have to worry about people being around asking for shit.

Speaker 4 You got to be his muscle. You got to be like the Charles Oakley to Michael Jordan.
You got to start cracking a few hits.

Speaker 8 So I would always sign everything for anybody who asked because I always knew there would be a day where nobody was asking for it. And I just didn't have that many people asking.

Speaker 8 So in a circumstance like that, I'm sure some people are going to be like, oh, he didn't sign for me. But it's like, fuck, man, imagine going everywhere and always having shit.
Do this, do that.

Speaker 4 Did he sign?

Speaker 8 He always, you could tell he gets like he's like okay and he does it he does it and although they're putting him in an unfair situation because like most of them are just selling it to make money yeah right it's not if if it's they're like 50 year old dudes and they're like hey sign six of these numbers right put on a fake jersey and and sell for dave gets that now oh does he'll come out of a hotel and they'll have uh

Speaker 4 like uh michigan mini helmets and patriot mini helmets and they'll be like hey dave can you sign this like big fan he's like you're clearly just gonna sell sell this.

Speaker 8 And he still does it.

Speaker 4 I think he's made a rule that if he can tell that you're not actually a fan, he won't sign it. Which I think is fair.
Yeah. Because you're just doing it for you.

Speaker 4 You got six of those ice cream helmets that you sign and you keep his antiques.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying, like, if once or twice you step in between one of these guys and Wayne and be like, hey, buddy, not today. And maybe, you know, crack one of them in the nose, send a message.

Speaker 4 I think at that point, Gretzky's like, Biz Nasty, he's my guy.

Speaker 4 The whole chemistry on set.

Speaker 4 Job for life. Job for life.

Speaker 8 So basically, do what I did playing hockey. Right.

Speaker 4 Yes, you're the enforcer. Off the ice.

Speaker 4 They brought you in to protect Wayne Gretzky. Correct.

Speaker 8 What if I get fired for assaulting someone?

Speaker 4 I don't think that they'll let you. No, that doesn't happen.
It's hockey.

Speaker 8 If I do, can I come back and beat.

Speaker 4 No, Gretzky will bail you out. That's poly hockey.

Speaker 4 Billy football. Poly hockey.
Yeah, poly hockey. I like that.
Yeah. So how are you managing all the new workload? So you're doing like six hours of TV and still two podcasts a week?

Speaker 8 They actually got me a green velvet coach

Speaker 8 in their office, so I just kind of take dirt naps in between periods. Yeah, you must be absolutely

Speaker 8 exhausted. That's why if I don't know what I'm saying when the cameras roll, it's because I was taking a little nap while the play was going on.

Speaker 4 Do you know about the parallax effect? No. We saw that in the Islanders game.
There was a goal where the puck crossed the line from the certain angle and you could see

Speaker 4 the nice. But you know about the parallax effect where if the camera goes over top of it, it's not shows you it's not actually the number one most

Speaker 4 noted effect on.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but if you post a picture of it, though, you get the conspiracy theories and it creates engagement.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, but you got to be the parallax explainer. So I don't think that's a good question.
I would say that's not give them too much work. That would be great.
I don't think

Speaker 8 I didn't even know what the word meant. So maybe they could find somebody else to do it.

Speaker 4 It's Nasty Science Corner.

Speaker 8 So I don't know how many.

Speaker 8 Well, I guess the Lightning were affected by this in a good way, but the Calgary Flames fans listening,

Speaker 8 probably the worst one ever was when they should have won it at home. I think it might have been Martin Gelina.
Yeah. And it hit the point where the goalie's pad is indents by the toe.

Speaker 8 And people were confused by that. And they're still convinced to this day that they scored and won that Stanley Cup in game seven.

Speaker 4 They did. That was a goal.
You think that one was? I think it was.

Speaker 8 I kind of think so, too, but I don't want to be the conspiracy theory, guys. So I was just going to give it a coin toss to whoever's listening.
But Martin St.

Speaker 8 Louis ended up scoring later, a little later in that overtime, and then they went off and won it in game seven. So the Calgary Flames were fucked by the Paraplex.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Paraplex. Parallax.
Parallax. Parallax angles.
It essentially says like if there's space that's over top of the line, that's where you see the white ice come through on the other end.

Speaker 4 But if you were looking directly down above it, you can see it's on the line still. Calgary has the shiny ice.
Same with Edmonton. Why is their ice so shiny?

Speaker 4 Edmonton has the brightest ice of all time.

Speaker 8 I think it's because of the TV lights that they have in the building.

Speaker 4 Got it. Every time I watch a game in Edmonton, I'm like, damn, that's very bright.
It's shiny ass. It's very shiny ass.
Also, really sad to see Duncan Keith is on the Edmonton Oilers now.

Speaker 8 He got smoked the other night by Tyler Johnson.

Speaker 4 I saw that.

Speaker 4 That's when it registered to me. Oh, yeah, he's not on the Hawks anymore.
When he got smoked, and I was like, damn, he got fucked up.

Speaker 8 Hawks are another team that

Speaker 8 have not looked so good at

Speaker 4 revitalizing everything with Seth Jones and trying to.

Speaker 8 I thought they were the most improved team over the offseason with the acquisitions. Tyler Johnson, Stanley Cup champion.

Speaker 8 Kirby Dock spent most of the team injured, so it's basically like getting a new guy in the lineup back for the full season.

Speaker 8 They said that Kane was a little bit banged up all last year, and then the obvious ones Taves took the whole year off. He's back.
You got Seth Jones and then Fleury. So

Speaker 8 you got to think that they're going to figure it out at some point and take a crack at playoffs.

Speaker 4 I hope they get back.

Speaker 8 I think five teams from that central division, given the strength of it, get in. And I think the Hawks are back in the playoff picture.
And if they're not, I guess off with Stan Bowman's head.

Speaker 8 Is that kind of the. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I take all my Hawks direction from Chief, who is, in my estimation, the best Hawks

Speaker 4 writer, podcaster in Chicago. So he tells me, and

Speaker 4 it's off with Stan's head if they don't make the playoffs again this year. It's a very weird spot, though, because the Black Hawks,

Speaker 4 you feel like you're wasting Kanen Taze, but you also won three cups. with them.
So it's like, what...

Speaker 8 Well, it goes back to why it's like if your time's over, now's the time to if you can I'm not sure if they have no move clause I'm sure they do but like get like hey do you want to go to a winning team make things a little bit easier towards the end but the problem that they're having is they they each make 10 million yeah their salary cap hit is and there's been strong debate because actually the

Speaker 8 cap never goes up the Toronto Maple Leafs the Toronto Maple Leafs had to play with another

Speaker 8 goalie that was just like a beer league type goalie the other night because they're in some cap trouble. So people are now saying should there be a soft cap in the National Hockey League?

Speaker 4 Yeah. I don't know why the cap never goes up.
I feel like it's been stuck in that like 75 to like 85 range for 10 years now. It's crawling up.
It's crawling.

Speaker 4 But I remember when

Speaker 4 they signed those deals and then the cap didn't go up, it was like, uh-oh, like, what are they going to do now?

Speaker 4 Because the fucking, the loon, the loony, the loony didn't go up.

Speaker 8 They're fucked just like the leaps.

Speaker 4 Is that what it is? The looney?

Speaker 4 The loony affects

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 8 HRR?

Speaker 8 Oh, fuck, Here we go.

Speaker 4 Uh-oh.

Speaker 8 Yeah, hockey-related revenue.

Speaker 4 How about that one off the top of my dome? Keep the chain.

Speaker 8 So that all factors into what the players end up paying in escrow and eventually what the salary cap goes up to.

Speaker 8 So I remember when I was playing this, I think one year at escrow, we ended up paying 18% because the looney got crushed.

Speaker 8 And a lot of what they anticipated was revenue coming into these Canadian teams. And a lot of them weren't competitive and not making playoffs.

Speaker 4 So ultimately,

Speaker 8 you see

Speaker 8 40% 40% tax, tack on another 18% escrow, and then 3% to your agent. You're not even, you're seeing like, you know, 35% of your money when it's all said and done.

Speaker 4 So what is the soft cap?

Speaker 8 Soft cap would basically, I think the baseball has a soft cap.

Speaker 4 Right, where if you go over a certain amount, you have to pay a luxury tax. You have to pay a luxury tax.

Speaker 4 But it makes it so the teams can potentially spend more. Yeah.
If you have a rich owner that doesn't mind spending, if this is like his passion,

Speaker 8 I think it's ridiculous the fact that because of all that stuff that some teams got jammed up where they can't even keep the players that they drafted and developed.

Speaker 8 Where, yeah, I get going to buy all these free agents from other places like the Yankees normally do. That seems to be a Yankee trait.

Speaker 8 I don't know who else in baseball follows that, but I think that in that case,

Speaker 8 maybe they can like eliminate that or penalize that more.

Speaker 8 I just feel that if you're drafting and developing players and then you're being punished for it because you were bad for so long and now you got the guys and it's like, oh, fuck, I can't even keep them all to keep a good team for at least a couple of years because I can't afford them because the league's cap isn't going up.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Seems a little bit contradictory.

Speaker 4 I agree. I agree.

Speaker 8 Because then maybe when those small markets, when the time did come around, they could say, fuck, fine. Yeah, we are going to pay those guys and we can establish ourselves as a hockey city.

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, I agree.
The cap. It does feel like it's been stuck for a very long time.
And you're right. It's crawling up.

Speaker 4 The Maple Leafs and the Blackhawks are very similar where you have two, three, four guys that are half of your cap.

Speaker 4 It's pretty tough to have like line depth, and it's pretty tough to put together a team.

Speaker 4 And if you get stuck with a long contract that you signed where someone's making seven mil and he doesn't, he's not good anymore. Yeah.
It's tough.

Speaker 4 I had one last question.

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Speaker 4 Biz,

Speaker 4 was Whitney kind of jealous that you got the TNT job and he didn't? No.

Speaker 8 No, he doesn't give a shit.

Speaker 8 I don't think he gives a shit.

Speaker 4 He told me

Speaker 4 that he was a job.

Speaker 8 He's been supporter for me.

Speaker 4 He told me he wants you to get better at golf. Yeah,

Speaker 4 he told me he

Speaker 4 was kind of mad about it.

Speaker 8 I was surprised that he didn't get the call to do it. I think that he's the more entertaining one on the podcast.
I think he's really nice.

Speaker 4 What about R.A.?

Speaker 4 Oh, wow. Well, I just, I think.
Is R.A. jealous that you got in? He didn't?

Speaker 8 Well, going back to what I just said, I just think it's tough because Witts got a lot of credibility because he played in the NHL for as long as he did. So yeah,

Speaker 4 put R.A.

Speaker 8 on there. Fucking, he can have.
We should rotate.

Speaker 4 We should rotate that seat with a Spit and Chicklets memory. I'll be honest, I would tune in for every RA night.
R.A. came over to my desk today and we were chatting up and catching up.

Speaker 4 He was sweating so much, and I don't know why. He's a sweater.
Yeah, but he was like, it's like 50 degrees outside. He's moving.
He was just like, yeah,

Speaker 4 he came over. It was actually a very funny scene because I was sitting and I had paper towels like in the corner of my deck.

Speaker 4 He came over, just reached, grabbed the paper towels, and just started mopping himself down. And I was like, what's up, R.A.?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you think his core temperature with the fact it's so cold out and he's got a shaved head that he would be okay.

Speaker 4 Right. No, he was.

Speaker 8 I think he would sweat through a blizzard. It seems like though.
That's how much he sweats.

Speaker 8 I think if he touches anything remotely hot or spicy, it goes to a different level. Yeah.
Where he might drown himself.

Speaker 4 It does seem, though, that the podcast has like never been better.

Speaker 8 We're having a good time.

Speaker 4 Sorry, I was talking about ours. Oh, oh, okay, well.
Do you need to talk about it? I was talking about ours. No, no, no.
Yeah, do you have any questions for us? Well, seriously.

Speaker 8 We started doing two episodes a week, and we just found that we were just better at one, and we like to circle back once a week.

Speaker 4 That's nuts. Now

Speaker 8 you guys also cover every sport.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and we do. So there's no hopes.
You guys are workhorses.

Speaker 8 You don't get tired after doing one interview or a live stream and need to take dirt naps.

Speaker 4 Our trick is, whenever we need to talk about a sport that we don't understand, we just have somebody else come onto our show and talk just about it, you, and we just steal your ratings for one day.

Speaker 4 Yes. But no,

Speaker 4 you guys are crushing it. I feel like spitting chiclets is one of those things at Barcelona that it's just so consistently great.

Speaker 4 And like people always, when I see people on the street, when I talk to people, they all love you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we care about our product. We want to get great interviews, and we come by once a week and we give our thoughts on what's happened around the league.
We try to keep it light as possible.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, it's been going good, buddy.

Speaker 4 Sports are supposed to be fun. Why'd you buddy me there?

Speaker 4 I don't know. Yeah, you didn't.
I didn't even realize that to you. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 8 Is that a diss?

Speaker 4 I don't like it. If you ask Whitney, it's a diss.
Yeah. Whitney took the chapter.
What does Lilly Football think of the buddy?

Speaker 6 I think buddying is fine.

Speaker 8 No. Oh, that's right, because you buddied Wit and then he fucking lost.

Speaker 4 Did he buddy me? It was actually after he broed him. So he followed up the bro with the buddy.
And at that point, Witt was like, enough's enough. What are we doing here?

Speaker 8 Buddy's like, you can buddy me anytime.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 that's like a tapping someone on the head.

Speaker 8 You know what I think about? Maybe I would say once every two weeks,

Speaker 8 that cow that you want.

Speaker 8 Because I remember when I looked it up, I'm like, that's the most beautiful cow I've ever seen. A Highland cattle.
A Highland cattle.

Speaker 8 I think

Speaker 8 I'm going to buy a ranch in Wyoming.

Speaker 4 With that TNT money?

Speaker 4 I would be your ranch hand.

Speaker 4 What is TNT paying you pre-tax? Oh, we're not going through that.

Speaker 8 I don't want to be not as much as Wayne, that's for sure. I think Wayne's making like, what, three, four? They said it publicly.

Speaker 4 Have you done the joke yet where you're like,

Speaker 4 two of us, we had, you know, 5,000 points in the league.

Speaker 4 I avoided that one.

Speaker 8 Do that. Everybody said it.
Do it. Do it.
No. Do it.
No. Do it.
How many points do you have? Okay, I'll do it. Well, how many points did you have? I had 21 points in my league.

Speaker 4 There you go.

Speaker 4 And also, he could go the other way around and be like, well, between me and Biz Nasty, we've gotten our asses kicked with combined two ACLs. Yeah.

Speaker 8 We should do the donkey comparison for how many we have collectively

Speaker 8 compared to how many goals.

Speaker 4 Is there going to be any hoop talk on the show?

Speaker 8 There already was, the cornhole cam with Charles Barkley and that.

Speaker 4 That was pretty nice, wasn't it? Like, it was just a shot of Charles Barkley's ass.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You were looking at that like, fellas. The cornhole cam or the hoop cam.
We're calling him Wayne Nasty. No.

Speaker 8 Wayno. I like calling him Wayne O.

Speaker 4 I do like the idea for the

Speaker 4 pink nasty.

Speaker 8 Oh, shit. We got off the workout topic, but yeah, we do crush weights together.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah. Finished with that.
We're workout bros. Yeah, so you go in the gym.
Does he text you saying, hey, let's hit the gym?

Speaker 8 Yeah, we got a group text going.

Speaker 4 Okay, how many guys?

Speaker 8 Well, so Anson Carter actually lives in Atlanta. And then Liam McHugh was actually in the gym when we got there, but it was me, Talket, and Gretzky.

Speaker 8 And then Liam McHugh is going to probably start joining us, I would imagine.

Speaker 4 And what do you guys do?

Speaker 8 I just do a lot of bodyweight stuff and then light upper upper body way's more just a walker yeah

Speaker 8 he wears like the garbage bag type shirt where you just sweat your balls off i love it yeah wait so what so why do talk it does the terrell owens with the incline where he just he walks on the treadmill with the incline with the dumbbells yeah

Speaker 4 so why do you guys have to go together

Speaker 8 We just felt it keeps each other, it keeps us honest. We're a team.
It's got

Speaker 4 that team camaraderie. You hit the locker room together afterwards?

Speaker 4 It's just a hotel gym, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah, we go back back to our rooms to shower, if that's what you're asking me.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Sueno's hammer. Okay, that was going to be my next question.
No, I've seen yours. I'm sure half the league is seen probably, right? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Well, did you have like a lot of text threads going on at the time when you were? No.

Speaker 4 You strike me as a guy that would send a picture of his shit if he had a really nasty one. Be like, check that out.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 You've never sent a picture of a massive dump.

Speaker 4 I have.

Speaker 4 I'm saying it's a comment. It's guy stuff.

Speaker 8 Yeah, guy stuff is sending massive dump.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, check out this.
Yeah. look at this one.
Would you like to publicly comment on your haircut? Yes.

Speaker 8 Well, I'm the worst. It's still not that great.

Speaker 4 I'm still trying to. You look like.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's bad.
That's like almost Jackson Mahomes-like. Yeah, you're

Speaker 4 like Kramer. Kramer meets Jackson Mahomes.

Speaker 4 You're late 60s Bob Dylan. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Marvin from home alone. Actually, it's getting old on me a little bit now.

Speaker 4 Isn't it funny when the hair removes like a brand? Do it again.

Speaker 4 careful now? Billy's going to fuck you.

Speaker 8 Oh, he likes to fuck the farm animals.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he likes cocks. He loves putting his cock in our farm animals.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 8 That was an insult when I was living in Wales that all the English people call the Welsh the sheep fuckers.

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, Billy doesn't take that as an insult.
It's just a statement of fact.

Speaker 8 He's like, she wasn't bad. Is there an app for that now? To meet farm animals?

Speaker 8 The Highland cattle?

Speaker 4 Definitely.

Speaker 8 Is there a female version of a Highland cattle, or is that like a, is that the?

Speaker 4 Some of them are female, some are male. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 They make both now.

Speaker 4 Well, the 2.0 is a female, and a bull is the male.

Speaker 8 I just didn't know about that kind of thing. I didn't really know a lot about that.

Speaker 4 That's a unisex.

Speaker 6 How did you get in the end of barn animal jokes?

Speaker 8 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Well, that's how he got the name nasty.

Speaker 6 Like, you actually.

Speaker 8 No. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, same. Right.

Speaker 8 Shut the fuck up, Billy. I'm not admitting to fucking a farm animal.

Speaker 8 I've never been that that desperate.

Speaker 8 I'm sorry to insult you, but I've never been that desperate.

Speaker 4 Business. It's not a matter of desperation.
Yeah. If it's a good-looking.
Oh, I thought we were going to go through every single hockey team. Oh, you had any others? No.
Stanley Cup final. Go.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Slow down.

Speaker 8 Every time I go on a different show, I predict two different teams.

Speaker 4 Smart. That's really smart.
Smart veteran.

Speaker 8 Let's go with Florida.

Speaker 4 Okay. Whoa.

Speaker 4 Throwing rats on the ice. And Colorado.
Colorado. With Crosby or without?

Speaker 8 I think if they pick up Crosby at the deadline for,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 8 I don't know what they're going to have to trade to get Crosby.

Speaker 4 McKinnon.

Speaker 8 Oh, McKinnon. Yeah, they'll just do a wife swap.

Speaker 4 I mean, dude.

Speaker 4 Crosby could even, like, he's got to have a no-trade clause, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah. He's not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 One thing.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 Darren Dragger, who's a well-respected media personality in Canada who follows hockey, he mentioned the possibility of it. And I kind of jumped on it where I'm like, yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 8 McKinnon and Sid work out every summer together. They're like best friends.
They're attached at the hip.

Speaker 8 Pittsburgh's maybe treading in the other way. Although they did win the division last year, I believe, and they've got off to a good start without Malcolm and Crosby in the lineup.
So who knows?

Speaker 8 Who knows? When you have those two guys, they could end up turning around and winning it. Because when they won their second cup together, La Tang was injured.
Matt Murray played out of his mind.

Speaker 8 And yeah, they had some great other pieces, but nothing that, like, you know, Phil Kessel stepped up and contributed.

Speaker 8 But it was like Sid and Gino were just riding this wave where they were just unstoppable, controlling the middle of the ice.

Speaker 8 Everything that they were shooting and passing was going in the net. And, and, you know, when you have those two guys,

Speaker 8 you always have a chance. So I don't think he's going to get dealt.
It was a rumor that kind of I hopped on.

Speaker 8 And I'm, you know, I'd still like to see it because it would create a lot of waves and drama. Yeah.
But I would not bet anything on it.

Speaker 8 I would put as much money as Gallant saying,

Speaker 8 I would bet that we have a captain by the end of the week. And then they never ended up picking a captain and gave everyone assistant captains in New York.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 8 The head coach goes,

Speaker 8 I would put money on it, and then it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 He's the one who gets to decide it.

Speaker 8 So he probably got crazy odds and got through the Barstool Sportsbook app and won a shit ton of money.

Speaker 4 A little plug for you, Dave. There you go.
All right, Biz. Thank you.
Everyone watch Biz on TNT tonight because this episode came out on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 Bill, you have one last thing, and then we're going to go.

Speaker 6 Did you ever play against the Danbury Trashers?

Speaker 8 I never played against them. No.
No.

Speaker 8 I was still playing my last year Junior the year that it came out.

Speaker 4 All right, so pretend you did. Follow-up.

Speaker 4 What do you think that documentary did?

Speaker 8 Yes, I did play for the Danbury Trashers. No, I'm just wondering.

Speaker 4 No, but he said to come at me from the other angle. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 4 He played against them.

Speaker 6 What was it like?

Speaker 8 They put a dead fish in our locker room and cranked up the heat on us, and then they kidnapped my parents before it.

Speaker 4 That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's crazy. There we go.
Yeah, that's what it's like planning against those guys. Good question, Billy.

Speaker 4 We never would have known that if Billy hadn't asked. Billy.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Head of knuckles. Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right. Love it, Billy.

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Speaker 4 Okay, let's wrap up with some quick couple guys on chicks.

Speaker 7 Hello, large feline Mr. Commenter Shank, Jacob, and Sir William Pigskin.
This question is for Sir Pigskin. What are your thoughts thoughts on chicks who lift?

Speaker 7 Do you prefer chicks who are ripped or chicks who are thick?

Speaker 4 What? That's really a guy. Well, I guess that is.
Yeah, it's a guy question.

Speaker 6 I just care about their max numbers, and so should everyone.

Speaker 4 So it doesn't matter body type, whatever. You care about the results.
You're a results guy. Got it.
I'm a GPA guy. I think

Speaker 4 all women's bodies are beautiful. No, I don't.
I mean,

Speaker 4 who's ever been like, oh man, she's in two in shape? I mean, I can't really. I'm not one who has the ability to complain about that.
Correct. I've seen myself shirtless.
Right.

Speaker 4 I do think, though,

Speaker 4 there's a point of no return where

Speaker 4 a woman gets so jacked that she has no choice but to do really cringy fitness TikToks with her boyfriend. That kind of sucks.

Speaker 4 You know those, that like whole community? That's a weird community where they're like meal prepping together and doing handstands. They're fitness couples.
Yeah. Fitness couples are

Speaker 4 freakozoids. Although I will say, like, I don't want, I wouldn't want a girl who was like super, super, super, super more in shape than me.
I'd be fake

Speaker 4 ass. Then I'd just be like, well,

Speaker 4 this isn't going to last very long.

Speaker 4 Hank, your trainer. Yeah, how's she? Is she thick?

Speaker 4 Or what are her numbers like?

Speaker 7 My long-distance boyfriend came into town last weekend, and we went to his favorite place, Times Square. He likes the Eminem store because they have those giant funnels.

Speaker 7 Anyway, we ran into those guys that hand out CDs, and then they asked you to give them money. Being from New York, I know to ignore and keep walking.

Speaker 7 My boyfriend, being from Ohio, literally stopped and got handed like three to four CDs. He got intimidated because they kind of surrounded him and ended up giving them a total of at least $60.

Speaker 7 We went to lunch a little later and I could tell he was embarrassed. Fast forward to the next day and he wants to go to Times Square again.

Speaker 7 We have plans with my parents for brunch, so there's no way we can go. I tell him this, but he's adamant about going back and returning the CDs.

Speaker 7 I explain that's not how it works. He says, just go without me, and I just let him go and told him to come back quickly.

Speaker 7 Well, apparently it went bad again because he said that he was pressured into spending $40 more on CDs. He can't keep going on like this.
How do I convince him to take his loss?

Speaker 4 This sounds like the origin story for a very specific type of superhero. Yeah.
I got wronged in Times Square, and I'll never let it happen to anybody before. Why do they still have CDs? Napster.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Napster.

Speaker 7 That's how Napster was formed.

Speaker 4 Good point. I mean, New York, like, you just,

Speaker 4 if you've been here long enough, you just basically learn that you don't even have to give, like, a nice, like, no thanks. You just don't even have to do anything because no one does that back.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Like, if people, there's some people down the street that I feel like are always asking for shit. You don't even have to say, no, I'm good.
You just keep walking.

Speaker 4 The nice part about New York is you don't have to even look at anybody. Yeah, you just keep walking and you don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 4 You're actually kind of a psycho if you make eye contact with a stranger on the street.

Speaker 4 I remember when we first moved here, I gave up my seat on the subway and people looked at me like I was the craziest person in the world. They're like, why would you do that?

Speaker 4 Oh, I do that for a troop. Yeah.
Well, I don't know. Or for Billy.
Yeah. Billy.
Billy Troops.

Speaker 4 You don't want to be Billy Football anymore. Our good friend Tom Fernelli said maybe it's Billy Troops.

Speaker 7 Or, yes, Sergeant Bill.

Speaker 4 Sergeant Bill.

Speaker 4 Salute. Private Bill.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Make you earn it.

Speaker 6 Liking Times Square is a red flag in itself. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I guess if you've never been to New York, you'd think maybe this is cool once.

Speaker 7 Billy, do you know what the military chain of command is?

Speaker 6 Private is very low,

Speaker 4 well,

Speaker 6 is very high.

Speaker 4 How low? Because that's still in the army. It sounds like you're disparaging all the private

Speaker 4 lower rank above us, yeah. But you said very low.

Speaker 6 Everything is perspective. What's in the middle? Some people think Colorado is in the south.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what about lieutenant?

Speaker 6 Lieutenant's higher than private.

Speaker 4 What about admiral?

Speaker 7 But sergeant.

Speaker 4 Admiral's in the navy only. Rear admiral

Speaker 6 in the rear.

Speaker 4 Oh, good point. Pilot,

Speaker 8 not a rank, cop,

Speaker 4 not in the military, president,

Speaker 4 technically good energy.

Speaker 4 Yep, chill out.

Speaker 4 So, your hero is Joe Biden.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you have to do everything that he says. Yeah, that's true.
Literally, everything that he says. You have a picture of him in your house, right?

Speaker 4 Huge pic. Yeah.

Speaker 8 When he's younger.

Speaker 6 Got it. Better looking.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Back when he was hot. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Alright.

Speaker 7 Alright, last one. PFT Honk, Billy Handball, Alpha Jake.
My boyfriend once stopped picking his nose and flicking his boogers in the air in an attempt to catch him in his mouth like they're grapes.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 7 Occasionally, he catches one and then displays it to me and anyone else around him. Thankfully, he only does this in private settings.
How do I get him to stop?

Speaker 7 Also, big cat, where does Aaron Rodgers put your water bowl in the mornings after walks?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's nasty. That was fucking mean to say.

Speaker 4 I hope your boyfriend starts flicking them in your mouth. That was very mean to say.

Speaker 4 I would say that the trick to everything is just withhold sex.

Speaker 4 Any behavior that needs correcting,

Speaker 4 it's like that movie Chirac. Just stop having sex.
And then e-caller.

Speaker 4 Or shock them. Yeah.
I hate this woman, so fuck her.

Speaker 4 Pain or sex? Your life sucks. Those are the two biggest drivers.
You have boogers in every salad. You booger salad.
It's like croutons.

Speaker 4 I just eating your boogers is

Speaker 4 delicious.

Speaker 4 Healthy. I just wanted to throw that out there, see where we'd go with it, Billy.

Speaker 7 I heard it helps build your immune system.

Speaker 4 I heard there was a high school in California where people were eating their boogers, and it was a new diet they found on TikTok.

Speaker 6 That's not true. Oh.

Speaker 4 All right, number.

Speaker 4 Love you guys. Give me eight.
96.

Speaker 4 Six. Bangs.
99. Bangs.
18. Bang.

Speaker 6 Stop making fun of these people with a serious ailment.

Speaker 4 Bangs.

Speaker 4 bangs

Speaker 4 46 ah close to the goat the neighbor I'll never fucking win love you guys

Speaker 4 Time shy away.

Speaker 4 Time

Speaker 4 coming for your love.

Speaker 4 Time shy it away.

Speaker 4 Time. Oh, I'll be coming for your love.

Speaker 4 Time

Speaker 4 me.

Speaker 4 Needless to say,

Speaker 4 I won't send it

Speaker 4 by me, so a little way.

Speaker 4 Telling her life is okay.

Speaker 4 Say after me.

Speaker 4 Time.

Speaker 4 It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 4 Shy away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, oh time.

Speaker 4 I'll be

Speaker 4 gone

Speaker 4 in a day or two