NFL Week 6 Recap, Aaron Rodgers Owns The Bears & Fastest 2 Minutes

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Fastest 2 Minutes Week 6, we then recap every game from Sunday
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Jaguars/Dolphins
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Bengals/Lions
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Colts/Texans 
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Rams/Giants
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Bears/Packers
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Chiefs/WFT
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Vikings/Panthers
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Ravens/Chargers
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Cardinals/Browns
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Raiders/Broncos
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Cowboys/Patriots
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Football guy of the week and who's back of the week. 
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Speaker 7 On today's part of my take, week six of the NFL. We recap every game, fastest two minutes.

Speaker 7 Who's back of the week? Football guy of the week.

Speaker 7 The Chicago Sky won a WNBA championship. I'm sure we'll talk extensively about that.
We got a lot of show. We got a lot of show.

Speaker 4 Is Diana Taurasi bad for women's battleships? She didn't.

Speaker 7 She avoided the post-game interviews. That's disrespectful.

Speaker 7 Who did that? Who was the other? Cam Newton. Cam Newton.
She's Cam Newton.

Speaker 7 So very disrespectful. But we got a lot of show.
We're going to get into everything. Before we do that,

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Speaker 7 Today is Monday, October 18th,

Speaker 7 week six.

Speaker 7 We start in foggy London town, home of Tua Lipa and the Dolphins, who are levitating just above really fucking shitty. James Slob on my Robinson and Marvin Jones Jr.

Speaker 7 Soprano put their noses in the box and helped the pussies come back in the game. Come on down to the win column Urban Meyer.
The price is Matthew Wright as the Jags get their first victory overseas.

Speaker 7 Jacksonville 23, Miami 20.

Speaker 7 And back stateside in Detroit where Dan Campbell's chunky chicken soup for the soul tried to fire up the lines to a victory. Chase had a performance that was, in a word, jamarkable.

Speaker 4 With four catches and 97 yards.

Speaker 7 that's cash boom trey christina hendrickson ran around with his hair on fire making pete dan campbell a madman don't look now but joe churro is looking like a snack again as the cinnamon cinnati bengals improve to four and two the bengals 34 the lions 11 to the meadowlands where the giants welcome back tom turn your head and coughlin and arch manning's uncle kadarius tony the tiger was great for the first drive as the giants continue to be the walking wounded the Rams made a pit stop at Cracker Daryl Henderson and ate a Cooper cup of chili as they blew out the Giants.

Speaker 7 Rams 38, the G-men 11.

Speaker 7 In Chicago, where Darnell Jackie Mooney scored a touchdown to prove he was more than a semi-pro, but the Packers once again were able to submit a bear in the ring.

Speaker 7 Khalil Fortune Herbert solved a puzzle that is the Packers defensive line, but aspiring game show host Aaron Rodgers disclosed his financial holdings, declaring ownership of the entire

Speaker 7 city of Chicago. The more things changed, the more they stayed the same.
The Packers, 24. Del Bears, 14.

Speaker 7 Boomer, sounded like you had some Cinnamon Cincinnati in your throat.

Speaker 4 The entire city of Cincinnati

Speaker 7 Cinnamon Chicago. Taral John, Maryland, where Ricky Sealer no Seal Jones opened up a case to show a touchdown.
Welcome to Diami.

Speaker 7 Bian Venito Adiami had three catches, but it wasn't enough as Tyreek Capitol Hill and the Chiefs got right.

Speaker 7 Patrick Mahomes overcame two interceptions to get his team a much-needed win, and we have Patrick on the sidelines to tell us about the game. Patrick.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, I was real tickle pink with how we played in the second half. I even made a couple dollar plays in the first half out there.
Well, I said, very proud of my brother Jackson.

Speaker 7 They did a great dance before the game. Always good to see boys get out there and have a little fun doing some shint before a game starts.

Speaker 7 Alright, and I'm just looking ahead and taking one game at a time. And January 2nd, we'll be going to Cinema and Sinati.

Speaker 7 And that's certainly one that we've had scheduled and encircled on our calendars. Chiefs 31, Washington football team 13.
Thank you, Patrick.

Speaker 7 Down south to Charlotte, where Chuba Hubba Bubba Hubbard chewed on some gum in the end zone. But it was Kirk Cousins who had a bazooka of a day with three touchdowns.

Speaker 7 Fantasy owner said, I got a peaceful,

Speaker 7 easy feeling,

Speaker 7 and I know a player who will let me down. It's Christian McCaffrey and he's wearing a hospital gown.

Speaker 7 Every Vikings game is a trip on the crazy train as KJ Ozzie Osborne scores the touchdown in OT to show him a victory. The Vikings 34, the Panthers 20.

Speaker 7 In Mile High, where rich homie Kwan Bisicia flexed in his first game as a head coach, telling his team, Louis Lock like a volcano, Josh Hagel, Derek Hawai and his own.

Speaker 7 Henry just says no to rugs, got a mile high and smoked a Broncos secondary. Kenyon Drake's the type of dude who will put up numbies when he's on your bench in fantasy, but he's still hard in the DMs.

Speaker 7 Meg Bryan Edwards and the Raiders said you've got mail as the

Speaker 7 Raiders win a big one 34.24.

Speaker 7 In New England where Kendrick born in the USA is a true patriot scoring a late touchdown to put his team ahead. But Ezekiel Elliott and the Cowboys were born to run.

Speaker 7 It was an axe-throwing competition as Mac and Dak traded scores. In overtime, the Cowboys said, CG's nuts, and wham, bam, thank you, Lamb, scored to win the game.

Speaker 7 And Bill Bella Chapstick couldn't do anything but stand and watch while his lips bled everywhere. The Cowboys, 35, the Patriots, 29.
We finish in Cleveland, where welcome to the Odell, California.

Speaker 7 Such Such a lovely case. Such a lovely case.
As Keenum came in relief of Baker. Ray J.
Green put out some good film as Kareem Kardashian Hunt got his back blown out.

Speaker 4 It's actually his calf. Boom.

Speaker 7 Thoughts and prayers. Mercury Morris is in retrograde as the 72 Dolphins can't pop that bubbly just yet as the Cardinals.
The Cardinals? Huh? Huh? Huh? The Arizona Cardinals? The Arizona Cardinals?

Speaker 7 Huh?

Speaker 7 Improved to 6-0. Cardinals, 37.
Browns 14.

Speaker 10 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

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Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 10 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 10 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 7 All right. Week six in the books.
We are currently watching Steelers, Seahawks with five minutes to play. We will update that after that game goes final.

Speaker 7 So we will talk about that as soon as the game goes final. This, welcome to the show.
This is officially Loserville. Yeah, we are losers.

Speaker 4 We all just have made a series of poor decisions in our life that have brought us to this week of football, and it's not good, buddy.

Speaker 7 Here, okay, so we're gonna get into all the games. We're gonna recap all the games, but this happens, and everyone needs to just remember this happens.

Speaker 7 So, if you are similar to us right now, living in Loserville, your team stinks, your picks stink, the games weren't that good this week, and that's okay. There's always an off week in the NFL.

Speaker 7 Like, there was we got to the witching hour, and there was pretty much nothing going on besides the Vikings and Panthers game.

Speaker 7 Uh, and then in the after the night games, obviously the Cowboys and Patriots was a great game, but the other twos were kind of stinkers. It was just a down week, and that's okay.
It happens.

Speaker 7 We need to have perspective. We got to learn from it.

Speaker 4 We got to watch film. We got to circle the wagons.

Speaker 4 We got to count on football.

Speaker 7 Football owes us after today.

Speaker 4 This was, you know what this was? This was just, you know, going into some good debt for football.

Speaker 4 We're showing that we will still be here when it sucks. They need to pay us back.

Speaker 7 Football gods. If you don't love football, football won't love you back.
Exactly. What are you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 3 And we have an extra week this year. So it's like we were due for one of these no matter what.

Speaker 7 Yeah, these always happened.

Speaker 4 This was bonus football. Yeah, this was the extra week.

Speaker 7 These always happen, though. There's like two or three weekends of the football season that you can point to every single year where it feels like everything goes against you.

Speaker 7 Now, it happened that everything went against everyone in this room all at the same time. So it's

Speaker 7 extra special, Loserville edition, apart my take.

Speaker 4 But everyone knows this feeling because it happens.

Speaker 7 You'll have that one or two Sundays a year where you're like,

Speaker 7 Do I really want to do this? Do I want, like, this hurts? This is not fun on a personal, financial, whatever level.

Speaker 7 It's not fun, but you got to just bounce back, got to get off the mat, and you got to figure out a way to put one foot in front of the other. And, you know, I don't know, just figure it out.

Speaker 7 Do you hear what I'm saying right now?

Speaker 11 It's false confidence.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to get myself up

Speaker 7 like a cowardly lion.

Speaker 4 You know what I think is going to happen? I think we're going to have a great Monday night football game. There we go.

Speaker 7 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 Josh Allen.

Speaker 7 Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 He has to save football.

Speaker 7 Josh Allen. Josh Allen saves football.

Speaker 4 Actually, you know what? One of our teams didn't lose this weekend. The Jets.
Oh, yeah, the Jets.

Speaker 7 Congrats, Billy. The bye week one.

Speaker 4 Mr. INT Bye Week was heavily favored.

Speaker 12 He threw no interceptions this week.

Speaker 7 That's a fact. Zach Wilson.

Speaker 7 As we're saying this, too, there's a Seahawks player that is very, very injured, which makes me even sadder because football just doesn't love anything right now. But let's get into the games.

Speaker 7 Let's recap. We'll put on a brave face.

Speaker 7 We'll go through everything.

Speaker 4 Can I just say right off the top, I need you guys to carry me on this one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm hurting. Well, I need you to carry me.
I'm physically, okay. I'm

Speaker 7 spiritually hurting.

Speaker 4 He's not heavy. He's my brother.
Yeah. That's what they say, right?

Speaker 7 You're physically, I'm spiritually broken.

Speaker 4 I need one footprint in the sand right now. I need that sort of moment.

Speaker 7 I need to find God. Okay.
Because unfortunately,

Speaker 7 he blares

Speaker 4 me every twice a year. But he is God.

Speaker 7 It's borderline criminal. He's God.

Speaker 7 Are we going to start there? No, we're not starting there. Let's ease our way into it.

Speaker 4 We got to start in London.

Speaker 7 We just got to start in London.

Speaker 4 Look, it might be good for you to just get it all out.

Speaker 7 I'm going to ease my way into it. I'm going to ease my way into it.
Let's start in London. Jaguars, Dolphins.

Speaker 7 Did you know? I didn't know this until today, which is incredible. The Jaguars got all the way to week six without making a field goal in a game.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't know that. Yes.
Did they even have a kicker?

Speaker 7 They did. I think their initial kicker, Lambo, got hurt, and then they brought in Matthew Wright, who ended up.
So this is how weird weird the Jaguars season is. They're 0-5 going into this game.

Speaker 7 They have Urban Meyer putting his finger up every chick's butt.

Speaker 7 They can't do anything like well on the field. Even when it looks like they might win a game, they don't and no one's on the same page.
They go to London. They're 0-4 in field goal attempts this year.

Speaker 7 And then they have Matthew Wright be the first player kicker in NFL history to make multiple 50 yarders in the last four minutes of a fourth quarter. It's incredible.
It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 7 Great job by Urban Meyer.

Speaker 4 We need to congratulate him when he does things correctly.

Speaker 7 He got a win.

Speaker 4 It's been, what, two weeks since he's fingered a young woman's butthole? Yep. So he's on a high street.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 It was more of the gooch.

Speaker 4 Well, so you have to look at it. It's like put in perspective with the Ravens streak that they had where it was, you know, what, 44 games in a row?

Speaker 7 Yep. With a 100-yard rusher.

Speaker 4 Yep. Urban Meyer's knuckles have been clean for about a fortnight.
That's true. Except as parts of his family.
He's a reformed man. We'll give him respect on that one.

Speaker 4 But yeah, the kicks were actually kind of crazy because they had little mason crossbar movement on them. Did you see that?

Speaker 4 So they bent. They bent inside.
They bent in the right direction. We've seen some funny things with the kicker balls this year.

Speaker 4 This guy, Matthew Wright, might just be the guy that's mastered the new kicking ball.

Speaker 4 You know, like how in the World Cup, like once every two or three World Cups, FIFA just introduces a ball that's impossible to save.

Speaker 4 But there's always like one person who can command it that understands how to kick it correctly. That's what's going on.
He knows how to kick these new balls.

Speaker 7 It's also very like the game was crazy because they had, there was a moment in the game where the Jaguars were up 17-13 in field goal range, went for it on fourth down, not to make it a seven-point game.

Speaker 7 The Dolphins then scored a touchdown, so Jaguars needed a field goal to tie it, a field goal to win it. It's just insane that that happened, that they were 0-4.

Speaker 7 Then they get Matthew Wright, makes two bomb kicks. Urban Meyer gets in the win column.

Speaker 7 The Jaguars get rid of that tweet that's just been out there from last year when they went, won their first game of the season, and they said, not satisfied with 1-0, and then lost 20 straight games.

Speaker 7 That's gone. Trevor Lawrence looked good.
Trevor Lawrence, like, I mean, he's going to be good.

Speaker 7 I'm pretty confident now that Trevor Lawrence, especially, like, you could, we should actually, like, my column, Trevor Lawrence is actually the greatest rookie quarterback of all time, given the circumstances.

Speaker 7 Oh, I love it. Given the fact that his

Speaker 7 coach is coaching the horniest guy in the world. Yeah.
The team stinks. Well, he also gives

Speaker 4 he hadn't won before.

Speaker 4 And you could say he's doing a great job at losing.

Speaker 4 You know what he's doing? He's providing a steady hand, and

Speaker 4 he's guiding this franchise during a tumultuous time when they don't have a leader. And he came from a college where he didn't lose and also had probably the least horny coach.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I would say Davo Swinney doesn't fuck. No.
I'm very confident in that.

Speaker 7 Definitely not. Definitely not.
Maybe once a year after the college football committee puts Clemson into the final four.

Speaker 4 No, he's like, like, he looks down and he's like, my penis is a distraction.

Speaker 7 Yes. I need to get out there and start recruiting again.
But it was,

Speaker 7 I mean, it wasn't a memorable game. I think the most memorable part of this game was the fan that ran on the field.
Yeah, look, now there's a card out. Like,

Speaker 7 it's just bad vibes. Bad vibes on a Sunday night.
But I hope this player is okay.

Speaker 7 So there was a fan that ran on the field to start the game.

Speaker 4 So he tapped up the entire

Speaker 4 squad. It was great.

Speaker 7 It was great. Our good friend, Uncle Chaps,

Speaker 7 wants us to stop saying that the Jaguars should move to London. So here's me saying I will never say that again.

Speaker 7 But I would like to say as one last thing, the Jaguars being London's team is very, very funny because of the fans dressing up.

Speaker 7 That picture of the guy in the dolphin, like the full, he was just, actually,

Speaker 7 I don't want to say guy because he might have just been a dolphin. They might have just had a dolphin sitting in the stands next to a fully face-painted Jaguars fan.

Speaker 7 There's something about that matchup. I hope they play it every year in London because the fans dress up and they look ridiculous.

Speaker 4 The only thing I wish that they would add to it is bring back the gradient helmets that they used to have. They're like multi-colored for that game for the Jaguars.
Let them do that.

Speaker 4 Maybe give them a color rush game as a treat. Have them do the electric mustard ones.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I actually like the dolphins wearing candy-ass uniforms when they're overseas. Yes.
Because, okay, you're in a soccer country.

Speaker 4 You get to wear the candy-ass stuff right now.

Speaker 4 I noticed Urban during the last couple of minutes of the game when when they were attempting the kicks that were going to take him into overtime and then the game winner, he doesn't even look when his team is kicking a potential game-winning field goal.

Speaker 4 I don't think he enjoys any part of football. No.
I think he just likes being out of the house.

Speaker 7 He did say he was going to remember this one for the rest of his life. Yeah, it's going on the coffee table.
His first win. Yep.
His first win in the NFL.

Speaker 7 In London.

Speaker 4 Add this to the coffee table.

Speaker 4 I saw him after the game and he was giving his post-game speech. The sound was off, but I could see him gesturing with his fingers, and I'm pretty sure he was doing the exact same.

Speaker 4 No, no, not that way. No, not that way.
I'm pretty sure he was doing the exact same speech that they gave in Major League when they're like, that's one game. Now we try to win two games in a row.

Speaker 4 Then if we can win three, they call that a winning streak. I think that's actually what he was.
He was like trying to joke with his team.

Speaker 4 They're checked out, though.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was, I mean, it's more indictment on the Dolphins and where they currently are at.

Speaker 7 The Tua thing is a problem.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 4 I will say that I don't really understand what the Dolphins were doing with Tua.

Speaker 7 He had a weird rib protector. He's coming back from injury.
They threw the ball. He threw the ball 47 times, which was one of the most that he's ever had to do in the NFL.
I just don't like,

Speaker 7 I know we've gone through this last year, went back and forth with Dolphins fans. I think most Dolphins fans are now starting to see it that maybe he's not the guy.
And

Speaker 7 the Deshaun Watson watch officially, I feel like, is on right now because I think the trade deadline is what, week eight. So it's, it's kind of a now or never situation.

Speaker 7 And it feels like they will probably take a run at him because I don't think Chu is the guy. And I don't, he's a nice guy.

Speaker 11 I don't disagree on my Dolphins Twitter timeline.

Speaker 7 What, they think Chu is still the guy?

Speaker 11 They think it's on the coaching. They think it's on everyone.

Speaker 7 Everyone else.

Speaker 11 I thought he had a good game besides that one pick.

Speaker 7 It just feels like every time he has even a little bit of pressure, it like all falls apart.

Speaker 11 I mean, not saying 100% healthy definitely plays a factor.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when you have a guy that is a wait and see guy, those are the worst guys.

Speaker 4 Those are the guys that, like, 10 years from now, 15 years from now, you look back and you're like, well, we really wasted three years.

Speaker 11 Pretty much what happened with that Tannehill. Yeah, he was very average for that.

Speaker 4 I was going to say Tannehill is the one example of the wait and see guy where it was actually like, okay, okay, I guess he's good. I guess we wait and saw.
Right. And he's good.

Speaker 7 And he's good. He finally took the step forward.
I just, so you're right. Tua's first drive was really, really good.
And then he had another really good drive somewhere in the middle of the game.

Speaker 7 But his first scripted drive was very good.

Speaker 7 And I, you know, obviously Dolphins fans will be like, well, dude, you backed Mitch for four years. Well, the difference I would say is that the Bears were actually like a good team for a while there.

Speaker 7 You know what I mean? Not because of Mitch, but it's a little different when you have a competitive team and you kind of see things a little differently when you win games.

Speaker 7 When you lose games, it definitely clouds it.

Speaker 7 Maybe Tua will get better. I don't know.
I just think that, and yeah, it's only his second year. Seeing Herbert beat

Speaker 7 the game. Yeah, you're kind of going through what I went through with Mahomes and and Watson, where it's like, fuck, this sucks, because you're watching

Speaker 7 the two guys that got taken around him and being like, well, that looks nice.

Speaker 7 I just don't know.

Speaker 7 I guess where I'd landed is the fact that the Dolphins are even considering Deshaun Watson tells you that they might not think Tua is a guy.

Speaker 4 Exactly. Yeah.
Things have to get pretty bad. Right.
To be like, yeah, well, how many dozens of women have accused him? Yeah. Only two? Okay, only two dozen.
Yeah, we can work with that.

Speaker 7 I'm fine with waiting and seeing because it honestly doesn't affect me whatsoever.

Speaker 4 Right, with Tua.

Speaker 7 I'm okay with the two, but we can wait and see.

Speaker 4 You know the wait-and-see guys. Like,

Speaker 4 they will ruin your franchise because you're like, I think this guy can be good. If we just, if we get stability around him, have him have the same offensive coordinator for two years in a row.

Speaker 4 Jason Campbell was the ultimate wait-and-see guy. This guy will eventually be good.

Speaker 7 By the way, just a quick update from the game. Like, a very significant injury.
So we hope this player is okay.

Speaker 7 Who is it? It looks bad. I don't know, but it looks really, really bad.
So I hope everything's okay. They've had like

Speaker 7 commercials.

Speaker 4 People are crying.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it doesn't look good.

Speaker 7 But back to Tua, the only other thing I'd say is that, and this is going to sound

Speaker 7 offensive, maybe? I don't know. I'll probably have a whole community come after me.
I do think when you're waiting guy and your guy that might not be very good is also a lefty,

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 7 I really do think lefies,

Speaker 7 I think we've heard players say that it's weird. It's different catching a ball from a lefty.

Speaker 7 There's been good left-footed punters.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's been good lefty quarterbacks, but I do think that, like, maybe that is very old school of me to reduce it to be, like, lefty, I don't want them, but I kind of lefty, I don't want them.

Speaker 4 Well, lefties look sweet when they're in college. They're throwing the ball that has the stripes on it.
Right. And then in the NFL, lefties just look weird.

Speaker 7 Lefies look awesome when they're dribbling behind their back in basketball.

Speaker 4 I don't trust lefties. I think back in the day, like, if you were a lefty, you were a witch, right?

Speaker 7 Yes, that was actually a fact. That would have meant.
I think my son might be a lefty. Well, I was going to say, you should actually but you should lean into that you are lefty yeah you are

Speaker 3 as a as a righty i just want to righty coming in pieces you are that's weird jake you right with your left i throw and and shoot with my left but you don't write if i was a quarterback i'd be a left-handed quarterback and you would stink yeah i will say though basketball completely different but much better looking shot but left-handed quarterbacks never look good like the lsu i was saying this at the lsu game because they have a left-handed quarterback and i was just like you have no confidence with a left-handed quarterback.

Speaker 3 It's just not the same.

Speaker 7 You just can't have it be your wait-and-see guy.

Speaker 4 It must be harder to teach that guy, too, right? Because you have to get a left-handed quarterback teacher.

Speaker 7 And you have to do you.

Speaker 4 Otherwise, they just show you everything backwards.

Speaker 7 All right, so I just Googled best left-handed quarterbacks. Tim Tebow is the first hit.

Speaker 4 Okay, not great starts.

Speaker 7 Scott Mitchell, Mark Brunei, Michael Vick, Steve Young, Boomer Syason, Ken Stabler.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I just, I don't know. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Jake.

Speaker 7 If you ever thought you were going to be a lefty quarterback.

Speaker 7 I've just always thought lefties

Speaker 7 were weird. What about the hefty lefties? Yep, the hefty lefties, R.I.P.
hell of a guy.

Speaker 7 But yeah,

Speaker 7 listen, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 Tim Thibault obviously wrote that list, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Tim Tebow wrote that list.

Speaker 7 Steve Young, very good quarterback. But it still looks weird.
It just does. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 It is weird. And yeah, I think if the wait and see guy is a lefty, that's just like one other data point that you have to to be like, there's something weird about him.
Right. My data.

Speaker 7 I'm rooting for Tua, but yeah, that's where I landed.

Speaker 4 We should also give credit to the new punter on the Jaguars. Or maybe he might not be the new punter.
I think he's been their punter, but he just had a baby

Speaker 4 two days before the game.

Speaker 7 We got updated.

Speaker 4 New baby alert. So I think he was probably the holder for those kicks, right? So

Speaker 4 that's why there was a little extra magic on the ball.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's why those kicks went through. So Jaguars get their first win, Dolphins in a complete spiral.

Speaker 4 Did Shad Khan take the yacht over there? Because that used to always be a story whenever the Jaguars would go over to London.

Speaker 4 It would be like Shad Khan is going to leave a month early and just sail across the Atlantic Ocean and park his yacht in Magellan. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know if he's there.

Speaker 4 Maybe he'll take Urban Meyer back. Maybe he'll that'd be funny if he just like pushed him into the Atlantic Ocean on the way back.
I was like, I don't know. I just woke up in the morning.

Speaker 4 He wasn't here anymore.

Speaker 7 He's not here. Yeah.
You can't prove that.

Speaker 7 All right. Next up.
Again, we're easing our way into it. So one more and then we'll ease our way into it.
But Bengals Lions.

Speaker 7 Dan Campbell's broken. He's a broken man.
Unfortunately, I want to say Dan Campbell is a broken man. He cried last week.
I thought they would have a bounce back from the cry.

Speaker 7 They did not have a bounce back from the cry. The Bengals whooped him.
And not only did they whoop him, but Dan Campbell, the guy, I never thought Dan Campbell would be a sad field goal guy.

Speaker 7 Dan Campbell's a sad field goal guy. They kicked a field goal down 27-0 with eight minutes left.
Okay, I'm

Speaker 7 goal.

Speaker 4 I'm okay with kicking the field goal to get some points so that you don't get shut out because you can build on that. It's tough.

Speaker 7 But it's sad. It's tough to say.
It's a sad thing to send your special teams out when you're down 27-0 in the fourth quarter and be like, go on out there, guys. Kick that field goal.

Speaker 4 Maybe he knew people that took the over and he was trying to do them a favor.

Speaker 7 And then the best is I think that Dan Campbell in his football guy-ish life realized that the sad field goal was spitting in the face face of the football gods because he then down 38-11 with a little more than two minutes left, burned all his timeouts to try to get the ball back.

Speaker 7 Okay, or 34-11. Right, 34-11.

Speaker 7 He wanted to play more football. That's it.
He wanted to kick more sad field goals.

Speaker 4 And also, you could just be like, you know what? Anthony Lynn called that play. That does remind me of an old Anthony Lynn, like bird brain play.
Yeah. To kick that.

Speaker 7 But it's just, you know, the sad field goal. It's just, it makes everyone feel sad.

Speaker 7 Even the Lions fans were in the background of the field goal all of them were just flipping off the camera like this is sad what are we doing here it's just it just bums you out when a team does that the sad field goal isn't as bad as a sad punt though like if you're yeah you're right you're right if you're getting your ass kicked and it's halfway through the fourth quarter let's say you're on your own 20 yard line and it's fourth and you know 17

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're going to punt.

Speaker 4 It's not going to help anything to punt, but maybe it'll take them a couple more plays to get back into your end zone afterwards.

Speaker 4 So you're just trying to make it so they don't score immediately when they get the ball back. But everybody involved knows that it's not going to be good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the sad punt, I would agree, but the sad feel goal, I just didn't think Dan Campbell would be that guy. Because, you know, the Lions have been bad, but they've fought.

Speaker 7 And that was such a white flag. Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 I think it's just one of those pride things.

Speaker 4 Not having a shutout means a lot to a guy like Dan Campbell. If you tell Dan Campbell you're going to go to the stadium and not score any points at all, like Dan, that would make him cry.

Speaker 4 That would make him spontaneously combust. No one wants to go to work environment like that.
So I think he was just looking out for the guys, being like, hey, you know, you fought till the end.

Speaker 4 That's what he was going to say. If you look at our graph on when our points were scored, we actually improved as the game went on.

Speaker 7 When, so my question is, and we'll get to the Bengals in a second.

Speaker 7 When are we officially on Owen 17 Watch with the Lions? I don't think we're there yet. I don't, but that was a really bad game today.
And they have, I'm looking at their schedule right now.

Speaker 7 There aren't a ton of winnable games.

Speaker 11 It's a double revenge game next week against the Rams.

Speaker 7 Yes, that's right. But there aren't a ton of winnable games left on the schedule for them.
They have the Eagles at home. Yeah, that one, maybe, maybe

Speaker 7 at the Steelers, at the Browns. I mean, they play the Bears Thanksgiving Day.
Who knows? But I just, they're not playing the Jets. They're not playing the Jaguars.
They're not playing the Texans.

Speaker 7 So I'm getting a little nervous, and I love Dan Campbell. I want Dan Campbell to succeed.
If Dan Campbell goes 0-17 as a coach after going 0-16 as a player,

Speaker 4 he'd be the first coach to ever lose 17 games.

Speaker 7 But he did it as a player, too, with the Lions. That would make me incredibly sad.

Speaker 7 That would make me sadder than a sad fieldboard.

Speaker 4 God gives his hardest struggles to his toughest soldiers, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, and he was very angry in the post-game,

Speaker 7 which, you know, he's got the fight. He wants to keep fighting.

Speaker 4 It's just sad.

Speaker 7 But, all right, so let's talk about the Bengals because the Bengals, we were having the debate during the game. I think the Bengals have graduated from not bad, and they're inching very close to good.

Speaker 4 The Bengals right now, if you're grading them on a curve scale of the Bengals' expectations, this is the best Bengals team of all time.

Speaker 4 The Bengals are absolutely dominating everyone's perception of what they think that the Bengals are. So, on that curve, they're a very good team.
When you compare them to other football teams.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what I was doing.

Speaker 7 I was saying, so they just,

Speaker 7 they, maybe last week or the week before, officially got their cap and gown and walked through graduation of the not bad teams. And now they're in school.

Speaker 7 They're getting their masters in, maybe a good team. Okay.
And who knows, they could maybe become a good team.

Speaker 7 Because their defense plays like their defense, and the Lions' offense has problems, but they were lights out in the first half. I think the Lions had like 60 yards total of offense in the first half.

Speaker 7 Joe Burrow, we love him.

Speaker 7 They can do a lot of, like, they have good running game, good receivers. So, yeah, I think

Speaker 7 they might get close to being good.

Speaker 4 I'm officially ready to declare today at 4-2, they're second in the AFC North as we stand right now.

Speaker 4 The Cincinnati Bengals

Speaker 7 are goodish.

Speaker 13 Good-ish.

Speaker 4 Okay. They're good-ish footballers.

Speaker 7 That means they just finished year one of law school. Yeah.
Of good. Yeah, so they're.
Which is the hardest year.

Speaker 4 No, they're working. They're putting in some some part-time,

Speaker 4 getting paid paralegal dues right now.

Speaker 7 They're working 80 hours a week and getting paid nothing. And they're like, I love this.

Speaker 7 This is a great decision. I'm so happy I decided to be a lawyer.

Speaker 7 Shout out to the lawyers who are listening to this right now because they know that pain and the hourly discharge. They're like, this sucks.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I'm looking at the Bengals schedule moving forward.

Speaker 4 I'm ready to say it. I think the Bengals are going to be a 500 ball club.

Speaker 7 Ooh. So next week is going to be the big test.
So next week is going to be

Speaker 7 tie.

Speaker 7 going to they're going to get a tie eight eight and one yep eight eight and one they're going to do 500 energy always yeah they can tie anybody actually like the patriots and the bengals are kind of existing on similar planes right now where the bengals can tie anyone the patriots can should have beat any team in this in this league yes or should have lost to any team or should have lost yeah should have lost but the bengals have it set up perfectly where they get a huge huge test next week at the ravens if they beat the ravens they're officially graduated to good that's going to be a tie

Speaker 4 I think they're going to tie the Ravens.

Speaker 7 But the nice thing about their schedule is they play the Ravens next week, which is going to be an enormous test.

Speaker 7 And then they play the Jets the week after, which will be a nice bounce back no matter what.

Speaker 7 Like if you suck against the Ravens, you have the Jets as kind of like, there's always money in the banana seat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a little bloody merry game. Right.
It's like, okay, you fix it up. You win out hard, and then this is just going to ease you back into playing football.

Speaker 7 Right. So yeah, the Bengals, credit to the Bengals, because listen, beating bad teams, you still get credit for beating bad teams.
Yep. You do.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 7 One more before we get to

Speaker 7 the other stuff. Colts, Texans.

Speaker 7 So here's the other thing we found out about today.

Speaker 7 The Texans are truly terrible. So

Speaker 7 they did a little rope-a-dope on us this year because they won week one against the Jaguars. And any team that wins week one, you're like, ooh,

Speaker 7 this could be something.

Speaker 7 And then they lost. They played tough against the Browns, and they played tough against the Patriots.
So they did just enough mirage where you're like, hey, man, the Texans are kind of frisky.

Speaker 7 They won't roll over. No, no, no.
They stink.

Speaker 7 They're a really bad team. This is a big rollover game.

Speaker 4 We had a little flash of Davis Mills last week in that first half. Then he turned back into Davis Mills.
So I think we have a... Pretty good feeling of what Davis Mills is right now.

Speaker 4 And that's a guy that loses 3-31 to the Indianapolis Indianapolis Colts. Yes,

Speaker 7 that actually makes it even more painful. That was like almost a British thing, 3-31.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 The craziest stat about this game is the Texans actually had nine more minutes of offense than the Colts, and they scored three points.

Speaker 4 So he uses, so Cully uses every part of the play clock. He really likes to take it.

Speaker 4 I think that's all that means, is they had more time in possession because it takes them longer to actually get the plays called in and have them set up, and not because they were dominating in the running game.

Speaker 4 Although they had 124 yards rushing, yeah.

Speaker 7 No, I mean, they do a couple things every now and then in a few games where you're like, hey, the Texans, they're pros, like Pete Prisco said, but no, no, no, they are

Speaker 7 officially in the running for worst teams in the NFL.

Speaker 4 This game was over before it started because the roof was open in Indy for the first time all year. And the Shadows, if you think the Shadows during the Dallas Cowboys afternoon games are bad,

Speaker 4 when they have the roof open in Indy, it looks like, you know, when you see an old old broadcast of like a game from the 1960s or something, and it's before anything was really engineered to be optimized for television, when they didn't think anybody would even be watching, that's what the indie field looks like when the roof's open.

Speaker 4 So that's a hostile environment to go into and have to play if you're Davis Mills.

Speaker 7 And then...

Speaker 4 Honestly, I forgot that T.Y. Hilton wasn't playing until he was back today.
It was a big deal. It's a huge deal.

Speaker 4 He had neck surgery, and now he's back playing again, and he's dominating again. I love T.Y.
Hilton. I do too.
Underappreciated player.

Speaker 7 For his

Speaker 7 post-game press conference after

Speaker 7 his baby was born. Still one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 I think the Texans should consider letting a fan play quarterback.

Speaker 7 That would be cool. I think that would be more fancy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, anything other than what's going on right now.

Speaker 7 Jonathan Taylor's awesome, which is always great to see

Speaker 7 because I need Wisconsin players to be good in the pros so that we can get recruits because we just barely beat Army, which was actually, by the side note, was one of the funniest games of the weekend because it took like

Speaker 7 two and a half hours to play.

Speaker 7 And the Wisconsin Army game finished before Tennessee Ole Miss got into the fourth quarter. And Tennessee Ole Miss started a half hour before Wisconsin Army.

Speaker 4 See, I always respect that.

Speaker 4 If you're going to make me watch a painful version of football, which, I mean, Army football can be fun to watch sometimes when they just like dominate people and run them over.

Speaker 7 Well, the triple option works. It's a thing of beauty.

Speaker 4 It's amazing. It's poetry.
But yeah, at least make it fast. At least have the games end.

Speaker 4 I think that the football team played by far the fastest games last year when they were just really, really bad.

Speaker 4 And it's always nice to be able to end a little bit early and then get to watch what actual football looks like in that same time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I get that time slot. The Colts, just a quick word on the Colts.
So even though the Colts are, what are they,

Speaker 7 two and four now? I think they're two and four. They are.

Speaker 7 I think we talked about this last week, but they are very in the AFC South.

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 7 they are probably going to end up, I was looking at their schedule, they're probably going to be a 500 team

Speaker 7 in late November going into the home stretch.

Speaker 7 So even though it feels like the Colts aren't anything special right now, I guarantee you that they will be like part of the playoff picture come December.

Speaker 4 So I think I'm ready to maybe start getting tempted by Carson Winston.

Speaker 7 No, don't. Just

Speaker 7 look like this.

Speaker 4 If you look at the last two games, I know, I know, the elbows are bad, the long elbow sleeve that he has, the really high white socks, I get all of it.

Speaker 4 The thing where he runs around and he gets scared in the backfield, like he has a sensitivity to loud noises, and he panics.

Speaker 4 There's a lot to not like about Carson Wentz, but I'm still finding myself being like, maybe they fixed him. Maybe Carson Wentz got fixed.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 That's the whole thing. It's like maybe going out to Indianapolis, maybe that will fix him.
Reuniting him with Frank Reich. And, I mean, he played good against the the Ravens last year.

Speaker 7 Blue this to yourself. He played pretty good.
I have just finally gotten over thinking this.

Speaker 4 And I was done even, I think I talked you out of believing that like two weeks ago.

Speaker 7 No, well, I stopped around last year, but I like, I truly don't think he's good anymore.

Speaker 7 And it was a very freeing thing, both like in betting and just life, to just not have to think all the time about how Carson Wentz.

Speaker 7 Oh, this might be the game that he recaptures that year where he almost won MVP.

Speaker 4 You know what's really puzzling about Carson Wentz is his rib protector that he wears. The rib protector, it's ridiculous.
It's egregious.

Speaker 4 It's like he basically has just a giant cylinder of plastic around his torso at all times. And I've never seen a quarterback that has, look at this.
Look how big that thing is. It's enormous.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I should probably wear one of those.

Speaker 7 I do wear one of those. He wears a girdle.
That's why I look like that. He wears a girdle.
Yeah, I do wear one of those.

Speaker 7 All right, so this game's about to end. Oh,

Speaker 7 is the time over?

Speaker 11 You spiked it. Now the dilemma is: is there one second or zero?

Speaker 7 Oh, okay. Interesting.

Speaker 7 Well, should we do another game real quick before we finish and recap this one?

Speaker 4 Let's do another one.

Speaker 7 All right, let's just go. Let's just keep

Speaker 7 absolutely choked the game for this. Yeah, what did he do? He just fumbled.
He caught it.

Speaker 3 He could have just ran out of bounds and he fumbled it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he couldn't turn.

Speaker 7 He was trying to make a play and basically run through everyone. Yeah, DK.
Look at that spike on it.

Speaker 7 It's DK.

Speaker 4 He'll go towards the end zone, but if you need him to get out of bounds, he's the last player that you want with the ball in your hands.

Speaker 7 Yes. All right.

Speaker 4 That's a Ted Gen specialist.

Speaker 7 We'll delay

Speaker 7 the Bears Packers for another couple minutes here. Well, let's just do a couple more games before we get to that.

Speaker 7 I'm going to start crying.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was a stupid, stupid play by DK Metcalf. That was awareness zero.
I DK Metcalf. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Rams, Giants.

Speaker 7 Another one of these games. Like, there were so many games today that just weren't interesting because there were just blowouts.

Speaker 7 The only interesting part of this game was Eli and Tom Coughlin were back. I actually think the Giants, given their current state, should bring Eli back for every home game.

Speaker 7 Like, just make every home game an Eli

Speaker 7 ceremony of some sorts. Because I don't know how else you're going to get fans to cheer, especially when Daniel Jones at home is not.

Speaker 7 I mean, we've talked about it, but Daniel Jones at home is just just not good.

Speaker 7 And he was bad today, and obviously a receiver slipped in one play, but he, I think the first play of the game, he fumbled, they recovered it, but that was like, oh, it's going to be one of those Daniel Jones days.

Speaker 4 This was one of the games where

Speaker 4 if this one was going to be competitive, it would have told us, it would have given us a way better feeling going into the rest of the slate on Sunday. But you knew that this game was a blowout.

Speaker 4 You're like, all these games are going to suck. It was a good bellwether for how the Sunday was going to go.

Speaker 7 And it was competitive for the first quarter.

Speaker 4 And then Smith Smith and Tony gets hurt.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then Kadarius Tony gets hurt, which the Giants, I know that every team thinks that they have the worst injury luck.

Speaker 7 I do actually think the Giants might have the worst injury luck, at least this year, because it feels like every time they have a guy step forward, he gets injured.

Speaker 4 I think they're down to like their fourth and fifth string wide receivers that are starting right now. Obviously, Saquon's out for, I don't know, probably forever with a softball-sized ankle.

Speaker 7 Yep.

Speaker 7 But that sucked because Kadarius Tony is fun to watch.

Speaker 4 They need to bring Madison Hedgecock back to the games. That'll get people back out to MetLife? Yes.
Yeah, MetLife will be packed for the Farmers Only Day.

Speaker 7 So, yeah,

Speaker 7 so the Giants stink.

Speaker 7 I think we're officially on Joe Judge watch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because you can't be Joe Judge and coach the way that Joe Judge does and lose. Correct.
If you win, then everything's great. And it's like, oh, this guy's figured out.
how to coach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 He's a genius. Right.
Because he makes his players run laps. But yeah, the hard-ass coaches, when when they don't win, that's when things go sour.
Correct. That's when your Scianos happen.

Speaker 7 Right. Things of that nature.
Things, yeah, things fall apart very quickly for Joe Judge types.

Speaker 7 And speaking of their injuries, Joe Judge in a blowout was playing all the starters at the end of the game, which is another one: like, hey, maybe you're not the guy. Maybe pack it in, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, maybe pack it in, maybe, maybe protect your players. You're already like walking wounded team.
I just think Joe Judge, he feels like

Speaker 7 he feels like the first to go.

Speaker 4 Do you think that,

Speaker 4 gun to your head, if you're a Giants fan, do you miss, like, do you allow yourself in secret moments to admit that maybe you miss McAdoo just a little bit?

Speaker 7 Oh, I miss him. I mean, those big suits.
I miss him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those big Giants suits, the hair, the mustache, the tiny door that he had to his office. At least he was funny.

Speaker 4 We never actually confirmed whether or not that was true, but it's my favorite rumor that McAdoo had like a door that went into his office that was 60% the size of a normal door.

Speaker 4 Every other door in the building. I choose to believe it's true because it's funny.
Cam, would you take McAdoo back?

Speaker 7 No. No, he said no.
Cam says no. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 7 I would take him back just because he is a funny in the slick back hair and the oversized suit. But yeah, Joe Judge, it feels like Joe Judge is about to.

Speaker 7 A couple more weeks and he could be the first coach.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because almost every other coach running through the list,

Speaker 4 they are either in a situation they knew they were going to be shitty going into this year.

Speaker 4 It's rare to have a combination of a relatively new coach that has expectations that's being judged against them. Joe Judge, unfortunately for him, has expectations.

Speaker 7 Right, exactly.

Speaker 7 And in terms of the Rams, another one of those ones that you just chalk up to good teams, just blow out bad teams.

Speaker 7 Matt Stafford had an incredible no-look pass. Did you see that?

Speaker 4 Well, no, big cat, because his name isn't Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 7 So he didn't talk about it. That's a fact.

Speaker 7 But yeah, that was an incredible no-look pass. Cooper Cup.
Cooper Cup is now through six weeks,

Speaker 7 statistically halfway to a career year, his career year, which he had a couple years ago where he had like 10 touchdowns, 1,100 yards. I think he's at five touchdowns, 600 yards right now.

Speaker 7 So he is on fire.

Speaker 7 And yeah, the Rams, like credit to the Rams for kicking the shit.

Speaker 7 Second quarter where they scored 28 points, and that was just it.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, I don't know what else to say besides the Rams are a lot better than the Giants right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jake brought it up earlier, but the double revenge game coming next week, that'll be some good storylines.

Speaker 7 Let's play guess whose line is it anyway? Guess whose line is it? Where is the game? It's Hanks. We get a fourth, right?

Speaker 7 All right, guess whose line is it anyway?

Speaker 7 It's in L.A.

Speaker 7 I'm going to say Rams minus

Speaker 4 I'm going to go 11 and a half.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go 13 and a half. Okay.
13 and a half. Rams minus 13 and a half.

Speaker 3 14 and a half.

Speaker 7 Whoa.

Speaker 4 I think I got to take Dan Campbell.

Speaker 7 Damn.

Speaker 7 No, don't. Don't do this to yourself.

Speaker 4 Well, I know it took a field goal at the end of the game. Yeah, I just.
Can I bet on the Lions not to get shut out?

Speaker 7 That's what I want to do. We should put that up.
I'll put that up. Will Dan Campbell attempt a sad field goal? Yes.
Although, what?

Speaker 3 Absolute heartoe move to trot Russell Wilson out there when he's not even playing.

Speaker 7 Oh, I can't see that. Yeah.
That is. I bet you he's not even a captain right now.

Speaker 4 He's just taking mental reps.

Speaker 7 What is Russell Wilson doing out there? That was. We should just talk about this game real quick.

Speaker 7 I can't believe that Russell Wilson got caught practicing his two-minute drive by himself on the field beforehand. That was crazy.

Speaker 7 I've never, I think he wanted to just do that in peace and not have anyone see it.

Speaker 7 But unfortunately, the NBC cameras, because it is a nationally televised game, did catch him going through that.

Speaker 7 And it ended up going around Twitter and social media and being like, look at Russell Wilson. He cares so much.
He's He's not even playing tonight, but he's still practicing before the game.

Speaker 4 It's reminiscent of Hard Knocks when JJ didn't know that HBO was filming at the time. Right.
And he was rapping to Fort Minor.

Speaker 4 It's sad because these are private moments that these athletes are trying to have, trying to improve their craft, get better.

Speaker 4 I mean, the dedication that he has to, you know, just happen to need to do this exercise right before their game that was going to be on national television.

Speaker 4 Like, it shows you this, this guy works hard, okay? Yes. And he doesn't do it for the accolades.

Speaker 7 Nope. He does it because he loves the the game.
He misses the game.

Speaker 7 He's only been out of the game for one week.

Speaker 7 He misses it that bad that he's got to practice it by himself like a crazy person, running routes and running in the pocket and running a two-minute offense. And again, I think that anyone who

Speaker 7 tweeted out that video should be reprimanded because it was clear that Russell Wilson was trying to have a private moment by himself with no cameras around because that's just the type of guy he is.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's a great guy, great leader. And it is the first weekend that he's never played while he's been in the NFL.
So he actually doesn't know what to do for himself.

Speaker 13 He's going to do this every weekend.

Speaker 4 He's absolutely doing it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's doing it every week.

Speaker 4 He strikes me as a guy that would have like a commercial, a new commercial that would come out for like, I don't know, Bo's headphones or something like that, sponsoring that particular week of his recovery.

Speaker 4 Right. Like it's going to be Finger Week next week.
Well, no, that's actually not a good one.

Speaker 4 We'll go back to the drawing board on that one. Yeah.
But also, this game had a fan on the field, too, right in the first quarter.

Speaker 7 Yes, that's right.

Speaker 4 We're entering a very dangerous time where I think we're going to have to have some hard discussions as a society.

Speaker 4 And I warned you guys about this.

Speaker 4 We need to see the fans on the field. Yes.
We need to show us the show.

Speaker 4 I want to see them getting lit up. I want to see how they run around.
I want to be able to grade a fan's performance, eluding security forces. We can see them on the internet.

Speaker 4 The videos are going to get out anyways. Just show them on the national broadcast.

Speaker 4 I want to have Kevin Harlan narrating it like it's a a cat that's running across the field at MetLife. Yes.
I want to get that little bit of pleasure from watching sports on TV.

Speaker 4 Why do they not show them?

Speaker 7 I need it. I agree.

Speaker 7 They rob us of the moment. We know the fans there.
We see him run on the field, show the whole thing.

Speaker 4 I want to see the fan juke out one security guard who might be a little bit overweight. The security guard falls over, tips over onto his nose, and then the next guy lights him up.

Speaker 4 That's a beautiful piece of choreography that I think we're deprived of.

Speaker 7 Here's a little pro tip for all the media companies out there who are broadcasting these games. You're trying to get everyone to watch your streaming service.

Speaker 7 Have there be a policy on your streaming service that you will always show any fan that runs on the field. Yeah, you can pay extra for that.

Speaker 7 I would absolutely be like, all right, I'm going to watch this game on the cock and not on NBC.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's just, it's weird because, you know, like you see the actual game of football where you've got TJ Watt just like punching people in the face and then they're like, no, but we can't show this fan.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we can't train the fan. By the way, I did learn today that you're not allowed to punch somebody in football.

Speaker 4 Yep, I always knew that you couldn't do it after the play, I knew that you couldn't try to punch them in their face, but you're not allowed to try to punch somebody in their body, which is kind of bullshit.

Speaker 4 It is bullshit. You should be able to punch.
You should absolutely be able to punch.

Speaker 4 The next iteration of the XFL should be like, Guess what? Punching is allowed. Yeah, punching is a bad version of football.
Yes, because we're not anti-football pussies.

Speaker 7 We're going to be able to punch. You can punch any part of the body.
It will be fun. It'll be heavyweights punching each other.

Speaker 4 Or one guy gets to punch. Yeah.

Speaker 7 One guy per team. One puncher per team.

Speaker 4 And he has a knife.

Speaker 7 The

Speaker 7 Big Ben pump fake. He's been playing with fire.

Speaker 4 He just loves to pump.

Speaker 7 He's pumping all the time, and then he finally pumped himself into a fumble.

Speaker 7 No more tuck rule. I learned that tonight.
Didn't realize that. I forgot that they got rid of it.
But yeah, Big Ben just pumped. He just loves to pump fake.

Speaker 4 The pump fakes are, and they were talking about it earlier in the broadcast too. They were saying

Speaker 4 how dynamic his pump fakes are, how he gets everybody to bite on him. And we saw exactly why.

Speaker 4 It's because when Ben usually tries to do a pump fake, he actually believes he's going to pass the ball until the very, very last second. Correct.

Speaker 4 So it isn't really a pump fake, it's just an aborted pass at that point.

Speaker 4 And so you saw him try to do that in this game, and he just

Speaker 4 held on like one half second too long. It looked like he had spider attack on the end of his hand.
The ball like stuck in, and he knew that he was in trouble when his arm was fully extended.

Speaker 4 He's like, well, I've gone too far now, so this is going to end.

Speaker 7 He's fucked.

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Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 Packers 24, Bears 14.

Speaker 4 All right, you want to do Ravens Chargers?

Speaker 7 I think what Aaron Rodgers did today is disgusting. I think it's gross.
I don't understand the taunting rules in the NFL. He gets to

Speaker 7 say, so the exact quote was, I've owned you all my fucking life. I own you.
I still own you. That was to the Bears fans.

Speaker 7 He said that there was some phantom Bears fan, a woman who was giving him the finger. I don't believe that.
I would like to see video proof before I believe that.

Speaker 4 Wait for all the facts to come out.

Speaker 7 Yeah, wait for all the facts to come out.

Speaker 7 In all seriousness, it was funny because I tweeted that right after, and I had, you know, when you get the Twitter crossover to, it gets retweeted to enough people that have no idea who you are that I had like 1,500 replies of people just calling me soft and like, this is insane that you actually are this upset about it.

Speaker 7 I am this upset about it. I'm not obviously upset that he talks shit.

Speaker 7 The worst part about the entire experience is he's correct. He does own me.
He owns my life. The two worst days of my year are when the Bears play the Packers and I have to watch.

Speaker 7 It's the same thing every year. And even in the first quarter, I was like, oh my God, like this was an awesome first drive.
The game starts. We play great defense.

Speaker 7 Justin Fields takes him down the field, score a touchdown. This is going to be different.
No, no, no, no. It's never different.

Speaker 7 Aaron Rodgers owns my fucking life, and I'm sick of it, and I just, I'm sad about it.

Speaker 4 The thing is, he knows that he owns you. You know that he owns you.
It just didn't need to be said. Right.
It was meaningful. It was

Speaker 4 misunderstood. You know, like,

Speaker 4 I get it. It's not like you were sitting here pretending that he didn't own you.

Speaker 4 It was, yeah, it was very mean-spirited. And thoughts and prayers to this one Bears fan on Reddit.

Speaker 7 Did you see this?

Speaker 4 I'm going to do a little Monday reading.

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 7 everything he says is right.

Speaker 4 It's one thing as a fan to see Aaron Rodgers saunter into the end zone to score the game ceiling touchdown with his own two hands.

Speaker 4 It's what he's been doing for literally my entire life as a Bears fan, and sometimes it just be like that. But to hear him, all right, now I'm on team Aaron Rodgers right now.

Speaker 4 But to hear him stare the crowd down and yell, I own you, I still own you, crushed my soul to a new level. It served as a reminder that Aaron Rodgers isn't just an idea.

Speaker 4 He's a real human being that comes into our city once a year and fucks my shit up. Aaron Rodgers is the boogeyman, and I fully expect him to be there when I die, staring into my eyes, smiling softly.

Speaker 4 I still own you. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, it's terrible. He's 22 and 5 against the Bears.

Speaker 4 Rent Free doesn't begin to cut it.

Speaker 7 It's not even Ren Free because Ren Free, like, I admit everything. You know what I mean? Like, Ren Free is when you're like, oh, it doesn't bother me.
It bothers me. It sucks.

Speaker 7 It sucks how much he owns the Bears. They've beaten, the Bears have beaten the Packers three times in the last decade.
One was because Joe Philbin was coaching.

Speaker 7 Another was Shane McClellan broke Aaron Rodgers in half. So yeah, remember that Aaron Rodgers.
Shane McClellan fucking snapped you in half, you bitch.

Speaker 7 That was mean of me. I don't want to stoop to his level.
No, that's not. When he goes low, I go high.

Speaker 4 I think that was what deserves. Well, the fact that he went after an entire city made it, I guess, so he could get away with it.
Because if you taunt one person,

Speaker 4 it's a crime. If you taunt a million people, it's a statistic.

Speaker 7 But you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not rent-free. It's, it's, because he, I admit it, like, it's just sucks.

Speaker 7 He fucking beats the bears all every time, and it sucks, and there's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 7 And every time I go into it thinking it's going to be different, and every time it's the exact same thing, and it just is what it is. I just have to, this is why when I was like

Speaker 7 obsessed with him maybe retiring in the offseason, you understand why.

Speaker 7 Because the idea, like the best part of my year was the fact that there was a moment in time when I thought Aaron Rodgers might actually retire.

Speaker 4 Well, he definitely considered it, but I think that this is why he came back.

Speaker 4 I think that he obviously doesn't.

Speaker 7 He didn't do it to win Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 Well, he doesn't, he doesn't have like...

Speaker 4 He's not a football guy. He doesn't like bleed football, obviously.
He has a wife, and he likes art.

Speaker 4 So he has other things that he's interested in. Correct.
Big red flag, first of all, in your quarterback.

Speaker 4 But what he really loves is just making an entire city of people pissed off at him.

Speaker 7 He loves it. It's personal.
He personally

Speaker 7 loves to do this to the Bears.

Speaker 7 I think he hates football fans, and so the best way that he can get back at football fans is just by beating their teams so i i don't really have any spin zones i don't have anything positive i do think justin fields played well at times i do i also think that like his processing needs to speed up there's times when he like he doesn't run he doesn't run

Speaker 7 when it's clearly a time to run. He kind of like moves to try to get more time for his guys down the field, and he misses opportunities to pick up plays with his legs.

Speaker 7 So I, you know, there's Geno Smith just fumbled.

Speaker 4 TJ, yeah, TJ Watt just ran the punch play again.

Speaker 7 The punch play.

Speaker 4 So it's, you know,

Speaker 7 it's bad. Like, I think the Bears are still in that weird zone of they're not terrible, but they're clearly not good.

Speaker 7 If they had won this game, I would have been like, ooh, they might be good. But yeah, Aaron Rodgers owns me.
It's awful.

Speaker 7 I don't even know when we play them again, but it will be another worst day of my year.

Speaker 7 And as long as he's on the Packers twice a year, every year, I will be miserable and everything will suck, and my soul will be crushed. It kind of kicks ass.

Speaker 7 It kicks ass to have a Sunday night football. Can it be flexed? Oh, it can be flexed.
That can be flexed. Don't, I don't want that.
I don't want that.

Speaker 11 The flex would probably involve you guys going on a big losing streak.

Speaker 7 I don't want that either. I honestly, that might be better.
That might be better than having to do Sunday night.

Speaker 4 It's going to be Sunday night football, and he's going to own you.

Speaker 7 Billy, if we get to Sunday night, if it's Sunday night football, Bears Packers,

Speaker 7 I give you permission to hit me with a frying pan and knock me out. Drop a piano on my head when I'm not looking.
Knock me out and wake me up on Monday. Seriously.
Okay, gotcha. All right, thank you.

Speaker 7 Other notes from the game, Eddie Jackson can't tackle. That really sucks.
And Razul Douglas should be in jail for what he did to Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 Noted.

Speaker 4 That was a dirty hit. Also, Justin Fields.
He was in jail. He had another nice fumble recovery today.
He just did.

Speaker 7 He's amazing. He's the king of fumbles.
He's the king of them.

Speaker 7 And Khalil Herbert is like, he's doing a great job as the third running back now because we've had injuries and COVID and all that shit.

Speaker 7 And then guess what? The Bears have to play the Bucs next week on nationally televised 425 games. So that will be awesome.

Speaker 7 All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 7 You want to do Chiefs' Washington football team? Yeah. Okay, so I'll just pass the baton of Sax.
Okay. This is, yeah, we are fucking losers on this show.
Yeah, no, it's Loserville. I said we all lost.

Speaker 7 It's Loserville. I'll give you some stats and then I'll let you take it from there.

Speaker 7 So the game starts.

Speaker 7 Everyone expects the Chiefs to have their big bounce back game. There's big galvanizing.
The Chiefs are okay. It didn't go that way.
Patrick Mahomes was bad in the first half.

Speaker 7 He was 13 for 23, 222 yards, zero touchdowns, two interceptions.

Speaker 4 He sucked.

Speaker 7 His mom was making excuses on Twitter saying,

Speaker 7 okay, people,

Speaker 7 this was talking about the interception where he threw it and Tyree Kill, it went through Tyree Kill's hands, bounced up, intercepted.

Speaker 7 She said, okay, people, that should not be an interception on the QB. That should be a fumble or anything else.
Just putting it out there, go, Chiefs. I love that from her.
That's ride or die.

Speaker 4 I actually like that from Ride or Die.

Speaker 7 I don't expect him.

Speaker 4 It would be concerning to me if the mom was like, yeah, that pass could have been better, Patrick.

Speaker 4 That's what you would expect like a hardcore dad to do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 To actually give honest assessments. But, mom, mom has to have your back.
Has to.

Speaker 7 All right. So last thing, and then I'll let you just take it from there.
But

Speaker 7 the game turned at halftime. Spot rack, am I saying that? I think it's SpotRack, the place where you can look up all the contracts, tweeted out.

Speaker 7 Mahomes has $440 million left on his contract, $69 guaranteed through 2023. So like we were at that point where they were, it's an absurd tweet to have.

Speaker 4 Is Patrick Mahomes an albatross?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's an absurd, but we had reached that point. Like even Stephen Che was saying other quarterbacks get killed for this.
Why is Patrick Mahomes get off the hook?

Speaker 7 Well, I'll tell you why he gets off the hook because in the second half, he went 19 for 24, 175 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions.

Speaker 7 And yeah, he's still the best quarterback in the NFL when he's like on.

Speaker 4 We were literally having the debate, like, has the league figured out Patrick Mahomes in the first half of this game? And it's like, no, trust me, he's still Patrick Mahomes. He'll be fine.

Speaker 4 Although, if they did want to trade him to the Washington football team, I would give up Taylor Heineke. Yes.
He's an asset.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, so you take it from there.

Speaker 7 Taylor Heineke is a team.

Speaker 4 I may have spoken slightly too soon on saying Taylor Heineke is our guy. He's a guy.

Speaker 4 I think he's gone to, he's definitely a guy, and he's there, and he can be the guy, but a lot of times he's just not the guy.

Speaker 4 And so he had some really bad interceptions today.

Speaker 7 Didn't play well, all in all.

Speaker 4 But I mean, the main story going into this week was how, you know, if you had told me week one,

Speaker 4 you remember when the stadium actually leaked shit onto Washington football team feds?

Speaker 4 If you had told me that wouldn't be the worst in-stadium experience of the year, I would have probably said that you're crazy.

Speaker 4 Turns out they figured out a way to one-up it by announcing the Sean Taylor jersey retirement three days before they were going to have the game, leading a lot of people to be like, yo, does this have anything to do with the giant fail son Bruce Allen's emails that keep coming out?

Speaker 4 And the team denied that it was. Some of the family members close to Sean Taylor were saying that they just heard about it like three days ago.

Speaker 4 I know that they had like an event planned four months ago.

Speaker 4 They said, okay, we're going to, this is going to be alumni weekend, and we're going to take that opportunity to honor Sean Taylor at halftime. We're going to dedicate a road to him.

Speaker 4 That was clearly all planned out in advance, but every single time I've seen somebody from the team defend this Jersey retirement, they've been very careful with their language.

Speaker 4 And they've said it was always our intent to honor Sean Taylor. But I haven't seen anything that says like literally we had always planned to retire his jersey.

Speaker 4 And the Washington football team doesn't retire jerseys. I think we have two other jerseys that we've ever retired in the history of the franchise.
I have a question for you.

Speaker 7 At least

Speaker 7 no one did a TikTok on his number on the field, right?

Speaker 4 No, that's actually, it was a fire TikTok, though, Jackson Mahomes. He always brings it.
So

Speaker 4 I got to say, like, the art may have been worth it in that context. No,

Speaker 4 it was bad.

Speaker 7 That's so bad. It was bad.
It just, everything you just said, and then add on the fact that Jackson Mahomes, and there's a picture of him standing in a very roped-off area. Yes.

Speaker 7 That is Sean Taylor's number spray-painted onto the field. It's like, you know what it's like

Speaker 4 at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, R.P. David Bay.
Oh, fuck.

Speaker 7 Not dead, but... No, not dead.
Well, still with us.

Speaker 7 As far as we're concerned, yes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So you know how they had Goodell's chair set up behind those ropes? That was like

Speaker 4 what the spray-painted jersey number on the field was. And they definitely had to step over those ropes.
He's like, this is actually a great place for a TikTok. You know what?

Speaker 4 If I die, I give Jackson Mahomes permission to film a TikTok dance at my funeral.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, I would actually like to be memorialized in that way.

Speaker 4 That was tough.

Speaker 4 I got to say, I've seen a lot of dirty shit from this franchise. And this might cost me my position as the Washington Football Fan ambassador.

Speaker 4 But if they literally were exploiting Sean Taylor's death, the one player that I care about, the one bright spot that we've had, like Sean Taylor's my favorite football player of all time.

Speaker 4 Everybody in that city absolutely loves him.

Speaker 4 And if they were exploiting his death to get the stank off of their front office

Speaker 4 or people that used to work in their front office, that's a new low.

Speaker 7 And I think they were.

Speaker 4 I might be out.

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 7 That's out?

Speaker 4 That's a low I never thought that they would ever stoop to.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, I kind of actually thought they would. I might be yeah again nothing's bother actually is very yeah

Speaker 4 the Bruce Allen emails are very funny too because it's very clearly his job as the ultimate fail son the the son of the former coach of the team his job was like okay uh go sit at a desk for 12 hours a day um and email the guy email bikini pictures to the guy that you most recently played golf with right and then make a joke about a black guy getting an interview right and that was your day-to-day job yes and obviously didn't produce anything on the field but I probably shouldn't be

Speaker 4 I shouldn't be shocked at anything at this point especially after the shit leak situation but um but it's bad it's it's really bad if that's what actually like went down and that's how they planned it out yeah and so in terms of the game too yeah well defense is bad so I said this to JP Finley on Friday when I went on DC I said if you're going to plan the Sean Taylor jersey retirement well in advance how about just not make it against the the Chiefs?

Speaker 4 Right, right.

Speaker 4 If we truly had this planned out four months ago, I don't know. Can we maybe find out when the Lions are coming to town? A game we can actually win? Yeah.

Speaker 4 But to play against the Chiefs, yeah, that was.

Speaker 7 You know what, though?

Speaker 4 I always had this one circled as a loss when I looked at the schedule. There you go.
So good news is we get to get back on the right track by playing against the Bucs and the Packers.

Speaker 4 Oh, and at Denver.

Speaker 7 So pretty good stuff.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, like, looking at the schedule,

Speaker 7 do it against the Seahawks Monday Night Football right after Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Like, like, give him, give it a national audience where you can actually honor him.

Speaker 7 It's just, it's gross. It's disgusting.
And also the defense is, too.

Speaker 4 The defense is really bad.

Speaker 7 It's still...

Speaker 7 Do you know how dumb I am?

Speaker 7 No one cares about your fantasy team. I drafted the Washington football team in fantasy defense because I was like, they were so good last year.
And I just forgot I had done that.

Speaker 7 And I was just losing. And then I realized this week, I was like, oh, I'm getting like negative points every single week because they're that bad.

Speaker 4 So you, by benching your defense, you're scoring more points.

Speaker 7 I picked up the Panthers. I was like, okay, we'll try this because it's just, it's baffling they're this bad.

Speaker 7 I also really, can someone do an investigation onto what Chase Young is doing with his helmet? Did you see in the first half? So the first half, he had like a million pieces of tape.

Speaker 4 That was a Sean Taylor thing.

Speaker 7 Oh, that that was Sean Taylor. And then he took it off, though.

Speaker 4 I don't know why he took it off. Probably because it might be harder to see through it.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he was doing so. But then he took it off.
I was like, why'd you take it off? I saw that he changed it.

Speaker 4 Chase also comes out of the game at weird times. Yeah, he does.

Speaker 4 I don't know why, but like on a third down in the third quarter, I don't know that he should really be off the field because he's still good.

Speaker 7 I hope. No, he is very good.
No, no, no. He's very good.
You still have that. I just don't.

Speaker 4 Everyone's talking about his consecutive games without a missed tackle streak.

Speaker 7 that's that's the new ravens 100 yard rush that's huge i i just don't it's baffling to me how they can be this bad i don't i think that's i mean probably a jack del rio like you're gonna have to just fire him and hope it gets better um

Speaker 7 but and then it doesn't add it doesn't help the fact that taylor heineke is is is not good he's not he's a guy he's not i think i think we also

Speaker 7 the last couple weeks we've answered the question if ryan fitzpatrick gets healthy i think he has his job back i would i would say at this point yes right so that kind of tells you everything about Taylor.

Speaker 4 But we'll always have that Giants game.

Speaker 7 We always have that Giants game at David Brasters, which feels like 10 years ago.

Speaker 7 Video this week. What? Video that.
Video this week.

Speaker 4 Oh, did you guys play a competition?

Speaker 7 Maybe. Who? Billy vs.
Jake? Maybe. And how'd it go?

Speaker 11 You'll have to tune in and find out.

Speaker 7 Billy, did you win?

Speaker 7 A couple. Oh, okay.
Out of how many?

Speaker 7 A lot. Okay.
But they were a couple out of a lot. They're like the cool ones.
It wasn't the cool ones.

Speaker 4 You You guys couldn't do like a sports competition or like anything that involved real sports.

Speaker 7 There's no, yeah.

Speaker 12 We should go do some real sports acts.

Speaker 7 What would you compete with against Jake in?

Speaker 7 Jake would beat you in everything.

Speaker 12 We could do like 40-yard dash. Okay.
Bench press max.

Speaker 7 Okay. Squats.

Speaker 4 You're describing exercising.

Speaker 12 Well, we could also like play basketball.

Speaker 13 Not tennis.

Speaker 7 What about Papa Shot? That's pretty close to basketball. Did you guys do that?

Speaker 7 Oh.

Speaker 7 You must have won that.

Speaker 12 No, that's like not real basketball shooting. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Why don't you think Jake could beat Billy in real basketball?

Speaker 7 You think so? Yeah. Okay, that's what we're doing on Thursday.
I don't think so. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I think Jake could. I don't think so.

Speaker 7 I don't know. No, let's go play basketball.

Speaker 7 Billy plays basketball like a football player, and that's that you can't beat that guy one-on-one.

Speaker 4 He would just tackle him. He would just try to back Jake down the whole time.

Speaker 7 We'll do that. Okay.

Speaker 7 No, let's not do that. Let's watch the video where you win a couple out of a lot.

Speaker 4 Then we'll make another video. We might have to suspend you from playing sports after this performance.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's it's a bad look for all of us.

Speaker 7 What?

Speaker 4 Because we're fucking losers already, but like, at least we still have the card in our back pockets of, like, I haven't gotten beaten in a decathlon by Jake.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and we also, we, like, oh, we got this one guy. I always tell people, they're always like, hey, tell me about like part of my take.
I'm like, well, we got this one guy, Billy.

Speaker 7 He's a sick fucking athlete. So now I can't say that anymore.
That's always the line I use.

Speaker 4 We probably need to drop football from your last name.

Speaker 12 Ooh. That'd actually be nice.

Speaker 7 Oh, you don't want it anymore? Yeah, what the fuck? Because I don't play football anymore. So I feel like a football.
But you haven't for the last couple years.

Speaker 7 Yeah, exactly. Can we just drop it? All right, fine.
Billy, William. That's fine.
Sweet. All right.
We're not dropping it.

Speaker 7 Last thing about the Chiefs. So Patrick Mahomes does have, he is third now in the NFL and interceptions.
Zach Wilson has nine. Trevor Lawrence has eight.
Patrick Mahomes also has eight.

Speaker 7 So he's second, actually, tied for second.

Speaker 4 The one that he had in the first half today was ridiculous.

Speaker 7 The second one? Yeah. That was.

Speaker 7 So it's weird because obviously anyone who's tweeting out like, why is Patrick Mahomes get away with this? Well, the reason why he gets away with it is because he has a Super Bowl. He has an MVP.

Speaker 7 He threw 50 touchdowns. He's fucking electric.
There's a reason why he gets like rope here. It's just the same way that like Aaron Rodgers gets rope when he has bad games or Tom Brady.

Speaker 7 There is something like a little off, but I'm not concerned long term. But there is definitely,

Speaker 4 they're not as sharp as they have been in the past the the cuteness thing is an issue yeah for sure they again got real cute with it today he just needs to honestly they want it it's like they're coaching andy reeds calling plays trying to get boops yeah i and and i

Speaker 7 listen i don't know i don't want to diagnose someone uh from afar but i think maybe patrick mahomes should just start taking adder all And he probably would just be back to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 7 Because it does feel like he gets almost bored with the game.

Speaker 4 He's beaten it at the final level. Right.
So he's got to do something to make it hard again.

Speaker 4 He's got to recapture that.

Speaker 12 Well, you know what they're all saying? What? That his baby's keeping him up at night. That's like all the Kansas City Chief fans, like the diehard ones.

Speaker 7 I like the X Factor.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he's like Patrick Mahomes ever since that kid came around, has been playing well.

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 4 the kids in Mush, like Jersey Jerry.

Speaker 7 Well, no longer. They won the Steelers one.
Which, by the way, TJ Watt, that was an incredible play to punch out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good job punching, TJ.

Speaker 7 Good job, TJ. I don't believe that, TJ.

Speaker 7 Clap it up.

Speaker 7 Good job, TJ.

Speaker 4 We should talk about X Factor a little bit.

Speaker 4 He got kicked out of Arrowhead Stadium. He's not allowed back there.
Yes. Banned for life.
Banned for life. Bad boy.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 He was at Raoul John today.

Speaker 4 He was. I see him.
Trying to take pictures.

Speaker 7 Most famous guy in the world. Kind of upstaging Sean Taylor's day.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's fine, though.

Speaker 4 If you have to share a day with one Super fan, I'm glad that it's X Factor.

Speaker 7 His last game ever.

Speaker 7 Well, he's going to go to a Way game.

Speaker 4 I have a feeling that other teams will rally and support him.

Speaker 7 Start banning.

Speaker 4 Preemptively ban him. He's going to be blackballed.

Speaker 7 Okay, so that was Chiefs Washington football team.

Speaker 7 Vikings Panthers. Vikings Panthers.

Speaker 4 This was actually a great game.

Speaker 7 It was. And in large part, so I'm ready to do something that

Speaker 7 a lot of people will be happy I'm doing. I'm going to give Kirk Cousins his flowers.

Speaker 7 He was very, very good today. He is winning these games in spite of Mike Zimmer trying to lose them with conservative coaching at the end and just weird things that he's doing.
Kirk Cousins is now,

Speaker 7 I think every single game they've played, the Vikings play in a tight game every single week. I think all six games, he's had to drive them late, and he's done it.

Speaker 7 He's in five of the six games, he's driven them into field goal range or a touchdown. So he's playing well.
He deserves a lot of credit. The first half was bad.

Speaker 7 He missed some throws, but the second half, he was very good. Three touchdowns.
He also, this is a crazy Kirk Cousins stat.

Speaker 7 Again, I still don't believe in him long term, but giving him his flowers right now. Kirk Cousins is only behind Aaron Rodgers for

Speaker 7 having the most games with three or more touchdowns and zero interceptions in the last year and a half. He's got 11 games like that.
Three or more touchdowns, zero interceptions since 2020.

Speaker 7 The king of Kirktober. That's crazy.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 he played really well today.

Speaker 4 He's had some bad luck, too, with the kicker situation in Minnesota. The Minnesota Vikings should just not have a kicker.
You know, he won this game twice.

Speaker 7 He went twice. He drove them 46 yards and 42 seconds for a field goal, missed it.
Then he drove them 75 yards for a touchdown in overtime. So he gets a double win.

Speaker 4 Having to win these games when you have a kicker that kicks for the Minnesota Vikings is extra hard to do. Correct.
And he went down there. He's like, you know what?

Speaker 4 We're just going to score a touchdown. So that way we don't have to worry about sending our field goal kicker out there to miss another one.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 4 I don't know what you do if you're a Minnesota Vikings fan because everyone knew, every true Minnesota Vikings fan knew when they put their kicker out there that he was going to miss that field goal at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 It's just a given that it's going to happen.

Speaker 4 It must be so torturous to have a good, solid team that's had opportunities in the last 15 years to do big things in the playoffs, but just also know

Speaker 4 we're never going to have a kicker. And so it's never going to work out long.

Speaker 7 And it's Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 And it's Kirk Cousins. So, yeah, that's another playoff limitation that you have.
But he's playing awesome. He's playing really well right now.

Speaker 7 And Mike Zimmer is going to die coaching this team because

Speaker 7 a lot of his own doing. Mike Zimmer basically brought the.
I think they, I think, with like a minute left, and obviously Sam Darnold's not good.

Speaker 7 We were talking about it last week, but Sam Darnold, the idea that Sam Darnold was fixed because he left the Jets is just insane.

Speaker 7 He was bad again today, even though his team had seven drops, which is insane. But Mike Zimmer, it was, I think, third and eight with like a minute plus left, and he ran the ball to punt it.

Speaker 7 It's like, why are you doing this? And you could say to yourself, well, we don't think Sam Darnold's going to go 90 yards. But also, like, Kirk Cousins was having a great game.

Speaker 7 They were passing all over the place. The Panthers couldn't defend the pass.
It's just Mike Zimmer keeps putting Kirk Cousins in situations where Kirk Cousins has to get him out of it.

Speaker 7 And he's doing it right now, but it's obviously not sustainable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, best case scenario in Mike Zimmer's head was they were going to get it to like fourth and one

Speaker 4 and then put all the pressure on Kirk Cousins to try to get that first down. They were not, yeah.
Sometimes he gets like a little too conservative in his play calling.

Speaker 4 I thought it was very funny how at the start of the game, on the very first play from scrimmage, Sam Darnold threw an interception. I always love it when that happens.

Speaker 4 It's like it's going to be one of those kinds of days. I actually think that it's better to do that in terms of all the attention that you'd get for a bad interception.

Speaker 4 It's way better to do it on the very first play of the game because the game hasn't started yet.

Speaker 7 It's basically

Speaker 4 a long kickoff return that you just gave up. Yeah.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 he's not fixed.

Speaker 7 He's Sam Darnold.

Speaker 4 Breaking news. He's not fixed.

Speaker 7 He's not fixed. Yes.
We just, I think the idea of the Jets being so toxic that they could ruin some unbelievable quarterback was so alluring to everyone that we're like, Sam Darnold, he's fixed.

Speaker 7 Oh, actually, it turns out that the Panthers played the Texans. They played the Jets.
They did beat the Saints, which is Saints are just the yo-yo team of the year.

Speaker 7 But I think we can officially say that the Panthers are not going to be good. They could be frisky.

Speaker 7 They could be frisky, but they're not good.

Speaker 4 They're a team that's going to win a game that they have no business winning later on this year.

Speaker 4 And one thing that's a little concerning to me is Matt Ruhl, his dimensions are changing as a human being. It's like he's getting compressed.

Speaker 7 He's getting vertically.

Speaker 4 Yeah, vertically. He's getting compressed.
He's getting wider and shorter.

Speaker 7 He's going into the machine that they squish cars in.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, the compactor, the trash compactor.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 now that I said the Vikings stink, or sorry, the Panthers stink,

Speaker 7 I'm looking at it right now. They play the Giants and the Falcons next two weeks.
So they might end up being back to like, ooh, are the Panthers good? No, they're not. Just remind us.

Speaker 7 Jake, set a reminder. Panthers aren't good.
Don't fall for it.

Speaker 4 It's like memento.

Speaker 7 Set the reminder

Speaker 7 for November 1st, please.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Sam Darnold was 17 for 41. That's when you're a quarterback,

Speaker 7 you can't be

Speaker 7 that far apart with numbers. You have to throw, if you were 17 for 38.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, the three, the three digits is bad. One to four.

Speaker 7 Right. You can't have that.
You have to get to 20.

Speaker 7 22 of 45 doesn't look that bad. But if it's not.
Compared to 17 for 41.

Speaker 4 Yeah, 17 out of 40 is way worse than if you go 22 to 49.

Speaker 7 Yeah, absolutely. Right.

Speaker 4 And but the reason why is because at least my brain, I just look at any sort of quarterback completion rating and I just divide it and I check to see if it can go into it twice.

Speaker 4 So if it's if they're less than 50%, that's what I look for. And automatically I'm like, okay, that guy sucks.
He stinks. But if it's over 50%, I'm like, wow, that...
He's a gunslinger.

Speaker 4 That's like the line right there between gunslinger and shithead is if you can get consistently like 50% of your passes completed in a game, I'll give you a little bit longer of a rope.

Speaker 7 And in today's NFL, if you have 17 pass completions, I think once you get past 25 pass attempts, it sucks.

Speaker 7 Because it's just something about like

Speaker 7 any number below 20. Even 19 is okay.
I could deal with a 19. But 17, like 17 for 23 is good.
That's a Drew Brees game late career. But like 17 for 27, that's terrible.
Not good. That's terrible.

Speaker 13 Not good.

Speaker 7 So just don't ever get stuck on 17. That looks really, really bad.

Speaker 4 You should have had him throw just a screen pass at the end.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 7 Next up, Ravens Chargers. The Ravens are really fucking good.
And I think the Chargers we have to downgrade just a little bit. Just a tiny little bit.

Speaker 7 But the Ravens, like coming off an overtime emotional win on Monday night to then playing the Chargers today, Chargers, we all think one of the best teams in AFC. They fucking killed them.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to chalk this one up to a matchup nightmare.

Speaker 4 I think these two teams just don't match up well for the Chargers, which is one way of saying the Ravens are much better than the Chargers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was going to say that's the first time.

Speaker 4 Without fully admitting my take that the Chargers are going to be the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 4 The Ravens, yes, they're very good.

Speaker 4 They are more physical than the Chargers, especially when they get the running game going. Chargers' defense has a little bit of softness to it, it turns out.
Yep.

Speaker 4 And then the Ravens got L'A'Veon Bell. He's on the Ravens.
Good reminder, he had a touchdown today.

Speaker 7 It actually is crazy. I know that

Speaker 7 people have been making fun of the Ravens' 100-yard rushing streak because what they did in Denver and everything where they were running the ball when the game was out of hand.

Speaker 7 But it is crazy that the Ravens are able to put together this type of running game with like... what they lost their top three running backs in July and August.

Speaker 7 And they've been able to cobble it together.

Speaker 4 They had 187 yards today, which it actually brings their consecutive game streak to one. Yes.

Speaker 4 So they're starting it over again. And I mean, just the way that it's built, you know, from the inside out, I think that's what you say, right?

Speaker 4 When a team has a strong offensive line, getting good push, you know what they do? They reset the line of scrimmage. They do.

Speaker 7 They live in it.

Speaker 4 They win it.

Speaker 4 They win in the trenches.

Speaker 7 Every single week.

Speaker 13 But they're just good.

Speaker 7 I actually, I've talked about the Ravens being frauds in the past. I'm not going to say that this year.
I think the Ravens are a legit, very, very good team.

Speaker 7 And they are in that group of, I don't know,

Speaker 7 let's do it real quick off the top of our head in the AFC. I think it's Ravens, Bills, Chiefs,

Speaker 7 still,

Speaker 7 and then Chargers, but the Chargers, like after watching today, are they? Yeah, I see. Because that was a big step up.

Speaker 7 Like, the Chargers have played against two big-time opponents in the Cowboys and the Ravens, and they failed both those teams.

Speaker 4 If this game is played at home, wait, was it at home for the Chargers?

Speaker 7 It was in Baltimore. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 So, if this game was played at home in Los Angeles with Boltman around, it's a different game. Okay.

Speaker 7 But I think that's the list. And I think those are

Speaker 7 the Ravens, the Bills, the Chiefs, and maybe the Chargers are the three teams or four teams that I feel confident about in the AFC being like, okay, I can see this team going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I wanted to say the Browns.
No. I wanted to.
Can't.

Speaker 7 Can't. We can talk about the Browns next.

Speaker 4 Well, first, we should also do the thing where, like, when Brandon Staley makes a really good play call on fourth down and gets real aggressive, and it works, We cheer him.

Speaker 4 He went for it on fourth down on his own 19. 19, yeah.
Didn't get it.

Speaker 7 I loved it.

Speaker 4 So now we have to motherfuck him.

Speaker 7 No, like you idiot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I mean, it's actually like statistically the right call.

Speaker 4 I'm a little concerned, though, because they did the thing where you can check and see what your expected win percentage increase would be.

Speaker 4 And he's getting these calls almost a little bit too perfectly. So he had like, it was

Speaker 4 one of the fourth downs that he went for today, it increases win probability by like like 0.5%.

Speaker 4 So it was a coin flip, but he chose the right side of the coin and it didn't work out.

Speaker 4 But he's getting like, I think he actually has a math guy that is telling him during the game he has that formula that he's looking up to.

Speaker 7 He's just on Twitter. He's looking at it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly. He just follows, like, was it Pro Football? Not the focus one.
Football Outsiders. Yeah, yeah.
He just has a subscription to there.

Speaker 7 I did think, though, that

Speaker 7 was actually that fourth down that you're talking about, I think it was like they were on their own 19 19 and they were down 24-6, I want to say.

Speaker 7 That was the reverse of the sad field goal from Dan Campbell. That was the we're going to keep trying to win this game.

Speaker 7 And yeah, the Chargers got punked. Like,

Speaker 7 that was just an ass kicking. So, I actually, in a weird way, if you're a Chargers fan, all five of you,

Speaker 7 that is a game that you're probably.

Speaker 7 Weirdly, like, we needed that because that's, you know, you're a young team trying to accomplish big things, kind of a reset, like, oh, we're not there. Let's get hungry again.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy, can you give me like a power ranking on like the clown shit?

Speaker 4 And yeah, compare like a clown shit to the shit pumping to they got run over by a wagon.

Speaker 12 So like a shit pumping is more of just beating but not making the other team look comically bad. Okay.
Instead of like putting up tons of numbers, it's more of a numerical stat.

Speaker 12 Whereas clowning is like doing Patrick Mahomes, underhand passing type stuff, even throwing ridiculously bad interceptions while still being the other team.

Speaker 12 But statistically, numerically, you can't tell that it was an absolute clown show.

Speaker 7 Got it. Okay, got it.
Got it. So it actually makes sense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so was there a clown show this week? There was a clown show. Where was it?

Speaker 12 The Kansas City Chiefs did end up clowning them.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's fine. You did say that while it was happening, you're like, oh, that's some clown shit.
It's fair.

Speaker 7 And TFT was like, no, that's not clown shit. And you're like, no, no, that was clown shit.

Speaker 12 There was clown shit that's the high-level talk we're having on sunday afternoon other side of it more clown shit but like a different type of clown shit but then it was a clown show okay

Speaker 7 it was it was so funny if you i i sometimes think like if we could just put someone from a different country sit with us for an entire sunday like what the are these guys talking about because i do i i vividly remember the conversation happening when you were like that was some clown shit and pft was like no that wasn't clown shit they're not getting clown i think no bro, that was clown shit.

Speaker 4 I think I was like, that's not clown shit. That's some fuck shit.
And then you're like, no, that's clown. And I was like, no, it's not clown.

Speaker 7 It's fuck. Fuck shit.

Speaker 12 Fuck shit was what happened at the end of the Cowboys Patriots game.

Speaker 7 There was some fuck shit. It was like the back and forth.
Like, that was some fuck shit.

Speaker 4 That was some fuck shit.

Speaker 4 Do referees get suspended? Can referees get suspended? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because the one ref in the Patriots Cowboys game where he turned on his fucking microphone and he made the signal of hold, but then he just didn't point in a direction to tell us which side it was going to for 30 seconds.

Speaker 4 That referee should be penalized. Absolutely.
We need to get that out of our game.

Speaker 7 Yes. No one wants to see that.
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 Fuck shit, the refs are usually involved. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's where fuck shit happens. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 All right. We mentioned the Browns almost being,

Speaker 7 almost want to put them in the AFC contenders category, but let's do that game next. Cardinals 37, Browns 14.
The Browns are teetering.

Speaker 7 I think the Browns are, like, they have to play short week at home, thankfully, against the Broncos, but they're teetering along

Speaker 7 the lines of shit might fall apart because everyone's injured. Like, they were missing both their offensive tackles.
They were missing Nick Chubb. Kareem Hunt got hurt.

Speaker 7 Baker Mayfield's shoulder definitely is affecting him, but the wheels are starting to come off for the Browns season.

Speaker 4 Yeah, once you lose Chunt,

Speaker 4 that's the formula for them winning games. It's just like pound him in the face with these two really good running backs and then let Baker do some play action stuff.
So Baker's going to keep playing.

Speaker 4 He's got a

Speaker 4 non-throwing shoulder that he just keeps dislocating. Yes.
And so it's just going to happen every time he lands on it.

Speaker 7 And it definitely is affecting him, his ability to run and want desire to run.

Speaker 4 I would say desire to run.

Speaker 7 But that matters for his game. And I like

Speaker 7 we're a Baker podcast. We defend Baker, but I also think questions are fair right now.
Let's just say that. Well, he's hurt.

Speaker 4 He's hurt. He's hurt.
Also, Odell Beckham, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 What are you doing?

Speaker 7 Every time he's on the field, it just doesn't work.

Speaker 7 I don't know what it is. The chemistry, I don't know what it is.
They need Jarvis Landry.

Speaker 4 He's definitely a good football player, but he also sucks simultaneously.

Speaker 4 How is that possible?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I just keep thinking of him taking a slant to the house for the Giants and being like, where's that guy? Yeah.
Like, why isn't that guy still here?

Speaker 4 Well, he's still there, but he just he sucks now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's crazy. And if they didn't get the Hail Mary, it actually would have looked way, way worse.
They get a Hail Mary at the end of the first half to score, you know, to make it like 23-14.

Speaker 7 You're like, ooh, this game might be on, but it was never on. The Cardinals are a lot better than the Browns right now.

Speaker 7 And the Cardinals deserve a lot of credit because, like, even with all those injuries, the Cardinals didn't have their coach, and they are now like winning games.

Speaker 7 You know, they keep it tight with some bad opponents, but they kick the shit out of the Browns today.

Speaker 4 Also, J.J. Watt had a Watt punch.
He did. Yeah, he did.
He learned that from his brother.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he had a nice little strip sack.

Speaker 4 Which Watt do you think you would rather have right now? Still TJ?

Speaker 7 Yeah. If we're doing Watt power rankings.
Yeah. I would say so.
TJ. No, it's JJ.
TJ is in his prime. JJ.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think JJ would probably say that.

Speaker 4 In that order.

Speaker 7 TJ is in his prime.

Speaker 4 But yeah, the cards, we said last week, if you win this game, I'm officially retracting my stance that the Cardinals give off candy ass vibes. Yeah, no, they're good.

Speaker 4 I'm retracting the word candy ass. I think that they're just a good team.

Speaker 7 Kyler Murray is playing out of this world, and he didn't even need to run today. Like, that's the piece with Kyler Murray when he doesn't even have to run, and he does that.

Speaker 7 He looked awesome passing the ball. They didn't have Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 7 He probably is,

Speaker 7 I mean, he's probably the MVP right now if people voted.

Speaker 7 But yeah, yeah, he was awesome, and the Cardinals are very much for real.

Speaker 4 So let's play a fun game. It's called guess who the Arizona Cardinals' backup quarterback is.

Speaker 4 Got in the game today. I think he had one rushing attempt.

Speaker 4 Who would you guess?

Speaker 7 John Skelton.

Speaker 4 John Skelton? No. Remember him? Bill Javigas? Remember that guy? That guy just seemed destined to live as a backup on the Cardinals.
Yes, yes. It's Colt McCoy.
Oh, Colt McCoy is still in the league.

Speaker 4 Good for Colts. And he's playing back up in Arizona.

Speaker 7 Good for him. Good for Colts.

Speaker 7 But yeah, the um the browns i'm very nervous about the browns all the browns fans we know uh the season looked very promising to start because the problem with the browns is right now you can play the game of like we went toe-to-toe with the big boys only so much and then eventually you're just like well we keep losing to the big boys and maybe we're not even close to them you know what i mean because i think the browns like started the season when they lost to the chiefs you're like ah well they went toe-to-toe with the chiefs and they almost almost won that game.

Speaker 7 That's almost weirdly a win. They lost to the Chargers.
Oh, they went toe-to-toe with the Chargers. They got fucked by the refs.
And they got fucked by the refs, by the way, this game too.

Speaker 7 The roughing the passer. I don't know what roughing the passer is anymore.

Speaker 4 No, it was just like a shoulder bump. It's crazy.
I don't even think Kyler Murray fell down, did he? No,

Speaker 7 it's insane what gets called roughing the passer now. But the...

Speaker 7 I'm worried about the Browns. Let me just say that.

Speaker 4 Is it fair to ask if the Cardinals are a super team?

Speaker 4 They're in that super team conversation. They got enough enough names.
They got names.

Speaker 7 They have a ton of names.

Speaker 4 If they've got so many names, if they have.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 they got Ertz.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it feels like a super team. That feels like one of those ones where Ertz was like, hey, if you're going to trade me, can you send me someplace good?

Speaker 4 And like, you know, he had been with the Eagles for so long that he probably had some goodwill and he picked where he was going to go on that trade.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But yeah, listen to these names. A.J.
Green, Christian Kirk, DeAndre Hopkins at wide receiver. Rondell Moore at wide receivers.
Those are some names.

Speaker 7 Those are some names.

Speaker 4 And Larry Fitzgerald, as first reported on Part of My Take, will be returning probably in December.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, they might be a super team. 6-0, only undefeated team left.
What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 12 These NFL super teams creep up on you.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they do. They're just sneaky.
Yeah. Yeah, they're low-key.

Speaker 4 I would say they're a low-key super team.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I also just, like, the Cardinals still have to. I think the Cardinals have to win multiple Super Bowls before I start respecting them.
Yes. Like, in my,

Speaker 7 as an idea in my head. And I know that's mean to say, but it just is, it's a fact, yeah.

Speaker 4 I and what also like confuses me when I'm looking at the Cardinals coaches on the sidelines, the birds point in different directions, they got to get that figure depending on which piece of equipment you were.

Speaker 4 Like on the hat, I think it points one way, and on the chest, it points the other way. Figure that out, make it easy on us, figure it out.
Um, give that give that Cardinal some teeth, okay.

Speaker 7 Two more games. Uh, let's do Raiders, Broncos, Rich Basicia,

Speaker 7 fucking Rich Basicia, What a guy. We knew, so we all bet the Raiders, probably the only bet we won today.

Speaker 7 Rich Basicia, Booger called him a foxhole guy. You see him on the sidelines.
He's got the

Speaker 7 old man glasses that tear apart. Yeah, those magnetic ones in the middle.

Speaker 7 Together,

Speaker 7 great,

Speaker 7 great gray goatee. Rich Basicia had these guys fighting hard.

Speaker 7 I think they got something with this.

Speaker 7 I think they can ride this wave for a little bit because it's clear, like you know instantly whether a team is is playing for their interim head coach or not they are playing for Rich Basicia he also had a great quote after he said uh the the part of me uh he was talking about getting back you know into a game situation he said the part of me uh that was getting back on the grass was the best the worst part was figuring out the headset which is such a football bit like he can't he doesn't know this email this fat what do you fax it to someone yeah that's like uh when when bruce arians goes out there and i think bruce is the only coach in the league that has the chess kit where it looks like he's strapped up with a bomb.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's got to be confusing for any first-time head coach, especially an interim one, where

Speaker 4 you're a special teams coordinator. You've probably been around head coaches for a number of years, but until you put that shit on, there's buttons and stuff.
You don't know about buttons.

Speaker 4 You know how to coach football.

Speaker 4 And one thing I learned about Rich Besicki today is that he was the guy that was brought in to fix the San Diego Chargers special teams the year after they had the worst special team unit ever, 2010, when they had the best offense in the league, best defense in the league, and their special teams were so bad that they didn't even make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 He's the guy that they called in to fix the biggest disaster. So

Speaker 4 this guy can handle a locker room that might be a little chaotic, you might say. So yeah, Rich Basicia, love betting on him.

Speaker 4 I think we're going to have to just keep betting on Rich Basicchia and Tommy.

Speaker 7 Absolutely going to have to keep betting on Rich Basicia.

Speaker 7 They're playing for him. You saw all the quotes afterwards.
It's clear that

Speaker 7 they're going to rally around Rich Posickia. Booker told us this, and I mean, we believed him and we did it.
But yeah, the Raiders, and we should talk about the Broncos are, I think, the

Speaker 7 biggest, tied with the Panthers, the biggest fraud start of the season. They beat the Giants, the Jags, and the Jets.

Speaker 7 And we all kind of like, ooh, maybe, because we, you know, I like Vic Fangio, who Vic Fangio, his frustration challenges went to a different level today.

Speaker 4 It was insane. He was challenging plays that because they would score a touchdown.
The opponent would score a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Some bad would happen on the field. And he'd be like, maybe if they look at it again, something different will have happened.

Speaker 7 He was challenging plays simply that he didn't like the outcome.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, it was no fan, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 He came down with his foot very clearly on the line.

Speaker 7 100% out of bounds.

Speaker 4 And he was just like, I'd like to challenge that because I would have preferred that that play went a different way.

Speaker 7 And then he did it again when a Raiders player, I think it was Ruggs, caught a ball and it was not even, like, the ball didn't even come close to touching the ground. He just threw the challenge.

Speaker 7 He's like, I don't like the outcome of that play. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He should not have access to the challenge flag anymore.

Speaker 7 It's, it was.

Speaker 4 They should lock it up.

Speaker 7 It's, it was a bad scene because it truly was.

Speaker 7 Like, it was reminiscent of like a little kid just trying to change the rules of something in the middle of the game, being like, I don't like how this is going. Time out.

Speaker 7 Let's change how the rules are interpreted.

Speaker 4 I also think we might be on Vic Watch. I think Vic Fangio is probably

Speaker 4 on his last season.

Speaker 7 The thing that he has going for him is he has already got three wins in his back pocket. So it's a little different than Joe Judge, but I would agree.
I think Vic Fangio is probably

Speaker 7 not going to make it out of this year. And Teddy Bridgewater was bad today.
He had four turnovers, which is very unteddy-like. But yeah, Vic Fangio, it's

Speaker 4 going back to being a defensive coordinator somewhere and build an awesome defense.

Speaker 7 It'll be incredible.

Speaker 4 That's just how it's going to work.

Speaker 7 He's the best defensive coordinator in in the game right now. Next week now is building up.
Thursday night is building up to be a loser-leaves town game with Denver and Cleveland.

Speaker 7 Because it feels like whoever loses that game is going to be real doom and gloom. Because both teams are like, if we are for real, we should win this game easily.

Speaker 4 So Cleveland is 3-3 right now. To me, I thought that the Browns, if you had asked me, just off the top of my head, what's the Browns' record, I would have said probably like 4-2.

Speaker 7 I would have said like

Speaker 7 6-3. Yeah.
And I would have been like, we're not in week week nine.

Speaker 4 I just, I forgot about that Chargers loss already. I forgot about the Chiefs game.
Well, that's what it is. The Chiefs game at the start of the year, that felt like a win.
It was a brand.

Speaker 4 That was a huge win. That was a big-time win.

Speaker 4 Huge win.

Speaker 4 They lost 33 to 29, but they really won. Right.
29 to 33.

Speaker 7 Yes. But yeah, the Broncos are in trouble.
Rich Basicia, though, is a hero. We are on Rich Basicia.
We're going to ride this wave. Next week, they're playing the Eagles.
Ride it. Love it.
Yep.

Speaker 7 rich besides

Speaker 7 all on board and he's just like everything about him like his he just has a look to him it's like yeah he's very smooth like this guy it's a guy that you can tell he shaves his head every day and he he he coached for 38 years without getting a head coaching kick probably because he didn't want one right no he did i think oh really yeah he probably something he was like rich did in the interviews probably didn't go so well Yeah, I did.

Speaker 7 You know what it is? Persecution of Italians. Yeah, there you go.
Most persecuted class in the world.

Speaker 4 I actually thought that it was just like the the mark of a true football guy. If you coach for that long and you just never want to be a head coach, you just like being around the guys.

Speaker 4 Just being in a locker room.

Speaker 7 Yeah, once you're a head coach, you've got to be their dad. You'd rather be their fun uncle.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the fun. Exactly.

Speaker 7 Bruce Arians, right? Yes, Bruce Arians. All right, last game, Cowboys Patriots.
Hank,

Speaker 7 this was, well, this is... Billy said, the fuck shit game of the week.
I still don't really know how the Patriots didn't cover three and a half. That was complete and utter bullshit.

Speaker 7 Hank, though, your thoughts on this game? Because it felt like

Speaker 7 that, I mean, PFT put it perfectly earlier. The Patriots are really good at almost winning games.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's pretty much their identity this season.

Speaker 3 Their defense is horrible.

Speaker 3 Couldn't make a stop. Cowboys were getting like 15, 20-yard plays.
It seemed like every single, every other play.

Speaker 7 445 yards, the most

Speaker 7 a Bill Belichick defense has ever let up against a quarterback.

Speaker 3 It was wild. Every single time, Dak would, you know, drop back, not a ton of pressure, and then just get a wide open guy in the middle of the field for like 30 yards.

Speaker 4 Yeah, are you concerned about your head coach bleeding from the mouth during this game?

Speaker 3 No, I mean, that's vintage bell check.

Speaker 7 Love that

Speaker 3 I'm not a chapstick guy. That's like chapstick, uh, it poisons your brain to convince you that you need more chapstick.
So once you use it once, you get dependent on it.

Speaker 7 That is true. Same thing with water.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but water, you need to drink water.

Speaker 3 You don't need chapstick unless you use chapstick. I've never used it, never needed it.

Speaker 7 You're built different. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 But yeah, it seemed like there was going to be some Mac magic at the end. This was going to be like his showing up game.
It wasn't

Speaker 3 bad pass to that got intercepted.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, credit.

Speaker 7 It was a good.

Speaker 3 He threw multiple passes over 10 yards today, so it's like there was some looks in the right direction.

Speaker 7 And credit to Mac Jones because he threw that interception and then he went right back and threw that touchdown. So it's like, hey, that was nice that he was able to shake it off.

Speaker 7 But yeah, that was... It's crazy they again it I keep saying but it's crazy crazy they didn't cover it.

Speaker 3 There was also like three or four fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and threes that they just punted every single time, and it's like they knew they couldn't stop them, so why not just go for it?

Speaker 4 No, that was a big-time give-up play at the end where I think it was like fourth and two around midfield. It's like you have to you have to try to win the game here.

Speaker 4 If you give Dak the ball, they're just going to score.

Speaker 7 Everybody knows it. I'm going to say something that's probably going to hurt you, Hank, but that game was a game that the Patriots always win and the Cowboys always lose.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, Patriots are always

Speaker 3 three at home. It's just not.
It's a different Patriots team than the Patriots that we're all used to.

Speaker 4 Did you see Jerry Jones kissing people on the lips in his suite afterwards? Beautiful.

Speaker 13 Up in the booth? It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 Just guys going in for.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it's not pause. It's not sus if it's right after a big win on the road.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I think that was his first time ever winning in Foxborough. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm saying. Like, that's a good idea.

Speaker 4 Every right to open tongue, open mouth, kiss his uncle if he wants to.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and I think the Cowboys, like, i don't i don't really know what the patriots are i think they're a frisky bad team or maybe a

Speaker 7 bad team you don't want to see late in the season there you go that's that's actually perfect but credit to the cowboys because like it's never easy every game is tough in the nfl unless you're playing against you know the texans or whatever but that was a game it felt like the cowboys always lost and i also i kept waiting for the big mistake right and i didn't get my good fix of a big cowboys mistake or like a mike mccarthy just like complete and total brain fark that I usually get.

Speaker 7 Something you're waiting for that the Cowboys were able to just overcome.

Speaker 7 And Tony Romo calling that game Hank said he should be fined by the FCC. I actually agree with Hank.

Speaker 4 Tony Romo, bad performance today.

Speaker 7 That was actually what that's probably if

Speaker 7 like in 20 years when they write the book about pardon my take, I think that like us being the first to say Tony Romo Tony Romo not that good. That would be a big one.
That would be a big one.

Speaker 7 But he's still

Speaker 7 starting to slowly come around.

Speaker 4 And once you get Hank started going down like a very slippery slope, so he hears one bad thing that Tony Romo says, now you've got his attention. And now he's listening to everything.

Speaker 7 Oh, he was on him.

Speaker 4 He is picking up. He was on his ass.
Even the smallest, most micro aggressions that probably weren't even real, but Hank was, you were observing them like a dog that can hear him.

Speaker 7 No, he was like,

Speaker 7 he was like trolling Patriots fans.

Speaker 4 He's trolling you personally.

Speaker 3 The Patriots don't throw it deep. And he's like, if I was Mac Jones, I'd throw it deep, knowing that that's what fans internally want.

Speaker 7 And he knows that they're not going to, but he's just fucking with us.

Speaker 3 If I was Tony, if I was Mac Jones here, I'd be bombing it 30 yards every play.

Speaker 4 Is it possible that Tony Romo actually thought that Mac Jones should try to throw the ball a little bit deeper?

Speaker 7 No, I think he was trolling. He was trolling.

Speaker 3 The homerism was blatant the entire day.

Speaker 7 Either way, I do think

Speaker 3 Jake, I'm sure he wasn't, he didn't, I don't think he saw the whole game, but he would have been disgusted if he heard what was happening.

Speaker 7 Yeah. But The Patriots playing like two out of the last three weeks in like primetime slots or, you know,

Speaker 7 this wasn't a prime time, but it was when there was only two other games. You're right.
I do think Mac Jones is like, he's getting better.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like I said, he had multiple.

Speaker 7 Usually

Speaker 3 before there was no big throws. He had a few today.

Speaker 7 Yeah, a few big throws.

Speaker 7 So Trayvon Diggs had his seventh interception. He then got burned on the next play.
But

Speaker 7 just for, I went and looked back because I was just curious for some context. In the last, obviously interceptions aren't the end-all, be-all stat for cornerbacks, but they're obviously a big deal.

Speaker 7 In the last 40 years, there's only been four cornerbacks who have been defensive player of the year.

Speaker 7 Deion or Rod Woodson had eight interceptions in 2000 or 1993. Deion Sanders had six in 1994.
Charles Woodson had nine in 2009. And Stefan Gilmore had six in 2019.

Speaker 7 So Trayvon Diggs already has more interceptions than half of the cornerbacks than one defensive player of the year.

Speaker 4 The record is 14 in a season. You know who has that? Who? Dick Night Train Lane.

Speaker 7 Great name.

Speaker 4 Old dick. All-time nickname.
I mean,

Speaker 7 your name is Dick Lane,

Speaker 4 and you even have a cooler nickname than your name, Dick Lane, Night Train. Yes.
Badass guy. He had 14 interceptions.

Speaker 4 I feel like at some point they just have to stop throwing to his side of the field, right?

Speaker 4 Because the Deion Sanders stat that you had in 1994, that was still well in the era of teams being like, we're just not going to throw.

Speaker 4 I'm going to cut the field in half, whatever side that Deion's on. I'm going the other direction.
At some point, teams have to stop throwing him the ball.

Speaker 7 But then they scored the touchdown against him. And I don't know if that safety obviously needed to be helped, but he did get turned around.

Speaker 7 Deion Diggs did bite on it and get turned around off the line. I don't know if it probably wasn't 100% his fault, but he also was out of position.
Right.

Speaker 4 But I still, I feel like at some point they're just going to stop passing the ball his direction. So he would be my MVP right now.
Seven interceptions is crazy through six games.

Speaker 4 But I feel like in the next couple weeks, he's probably not going to get above 10 interceptions on the year. The opportunity.

Speaker 7 Chandler Jones getting just five sacks. We still were waiting for six.

Speaker 4 Is he still alive? Is he around? Five.

Speaker 7 All time,

Speaker 7 week one.

Speaker 7 Everyone remembers Chandler Jones. Get everyone talking about it, and like you'll remember him all year.
He put in all his work week one. Yep.

Speaker 4 He's like, I'm good. It's smart.
Yeah. It's

Speaker 4 a smart way to do business. I don't even think he showed up.
He might not have played today.

Speaker 7 I think he did play today. Did he?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he played today.

Speaker 7 All right. Those are the games.
Cowboys are good. Cowboys are good.
It's weird to say, but the Cowboys are a good team.

Speaker 7 Actually, let's do it for the NFC. So the NFC, we did it for the AFC.

Speaker 7 Super Bowl contenders in the NFC. I think it's Cowboys, Bucs,

Speaker 7 Packers, Rams, Rams.

Speaker 4 Cowboys, Bucs, Packers, Rams.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we almost unintentionally disrespected the Cardinals.

Speaker 7 I got them. But those are the five.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 7 So it sounds like we're, if you,

Speaker 7 six weeks into the season, a third of the way through the season, it feels like there's about nine teams total that I could be like, I could see them being in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm going to take one away. I don't think that the Packers can be in the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 7 I unfortunately, well, because Aaron's

Speaker 7 the fantasy championship games.

Speaker 3 All right, I like that.

Speaker 7 That's true.

Speaker 4 So Packers are limited.

Speaker 7 I appreciate that you did that to me.

Speaker 7 That was a big friendship moment right there.

Speaker 7 All right, let's get to Football Guy.

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Speaker 16 Oh, that's so cute of you.

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Speaker 7 All All right, Billy, football guys of the week.

Speaker 12 So last week's winner was Dan Campbell for crying. Many are saying he cried too early in the season now, so that could have changed.
He won last week.

Speaker 7 Okay. That's all that counts.

Speaker 12 Yep. So our first nominee is Owen Begman, an O-lineman from McQuaid High School in Rochester, New York,

Speaker 12 who broke his leg.

Speaker 7 Look, these are great football.

Speaker 7 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 12 These are great football guys. Like, what if I just had a bunch of stories?

Speaker 7 Oh, I'm deep in football. People are just sending it to you because they know

Speaker 7 highlight these high school football stories.

Speaker 12 Yeah, well, there's some of the best stories.

Speaker 7 Okay. Okay.
So some of the most football played.

Speaker 12 Like, think about it. Like, there's more high school games and there are college.

Speaker 7 And then

Speaker 7 pro

Speaker 7 anyway.

Speaker 12 So he broke his leg and he was getting carted off. It looked like a really bad fracture.
Like, probably.

Speaker 7 How do you know?

Speaker 12 Because I can see the video.

Speaker 7 Oh, there's a video? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 12 So anyway, he gets carted off in a stretcher, and while he's getting carted off, instead of just giving the crowd a thumbs up, he gives him a thumbs up and like a whipping, whipping type motion where he's like pretending he's driving off the cart, which is pretty chill because it just shows that, yes, he's okay, but he's more than okay.

Speaker 7 He's whipping.

Speaker 4 I think I get it. He's if you saw his ghost riding the whip.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but that's not a football guy. Yeah.
That's a football guy. No, that's not a football guy.

Speaker 4 I thought you were going to say, like, someone tossed him a beer and he chucked it and smashed it.

Speaker 12 Wait. Okay.
Anyway, the second one.

Speaker 7 Like someone beat the number two team in the country and then chugged a beer on the field.

Speaker 12 No, well,

Speaker 12 that's number three.

Speaker 7 Okay. Oh, shit.

Speaker 12 Anyway, so second one is they didn't have this one is also a high school football

Speaker 12 high school football game between Elmwood, Brimfield, and Lewiston High School.

Speaker 12 They didn't have a quarter for the coin toss, so they just decided to do rock, paper, scissors in order to get the game going.

Speaker 7 Again, that's not a football guy. That's a football guy.

Speaker 12 They want to play the game sooner.

Speaker 7 They could have just said, you get it first, we'll get it second.

Speaker 12 Billy. I know, but they just did it.

Speaker 4 They played rock, paper, scissors before game.

Speaker 7 That's your first time.

Speaker 12 Yeah, instead of the coin flip.

Speaker 4 Are you acting like

Speaker 4 the game would never have been played if they

Speaker 12 just wanted to get it going fast?

Speaker 7 They're like, oh, we don't have a quarter of a game to play.

Speaker 4 No, we can't. Sorry.

Speaker 7 Okay,

Speaker 12 number three is Greg Long, Purdue offensive lineman.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 12 Who, after a beer was thrown on the field, he didn't want to waste it. He chugged it during

Speaker 12 when they beat them 24-7.

Speaker 7 Let's talk about that game real quick. We've got to give a shout out to Purdue.
I know that I have mean words about Purdue, but that was a hell of a win.

Speaker 7 Also, crazy stat.

Speaker 7 Purdue has the most wins as an unranked team in the history of college football against the number one or number two team with nine times they've done it in the history of the program.

Speaker 7 And the next closest is four.

Speaker 4 That's kind of of crazy where it's like at the same time a very good compliment and indictment of the Big Ten on one word because they have so many teams that have been ranked number one

Speaker 4 that are also capable of losing to a team like Purdue.

Speaker 7 Some of them are non-con they beat Notre Dame, I think. A lot of them happened a long time ago, but they remember they beat Ohio State when they were number two a few years ago.

Speaker 7 But that was, I mean, that was a big, big win for Purdue. And Iowa, I'm sorry, Iowa.
Iowa fans, they were starting to really feel, you know, because they were doing the like.

Speaker 4 Oh, we'll always have that week.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and

Speaker 7 Iowa fans, again, Iowa and Wisconsin are very similar in football programs and like how everyone reacts to it.

Speaker 7 So Iowa was just reacting to the fact that everyone hated watching Iowa football from a national perspective.

Speaker 7 But they were starting to feel themselves like, you're going to fucking watch it and you're going to like it because we're fucking number two in the country and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 big bad Purdue walked in and stole your lunch.

Speaker 4 They were like, We're making ugly, sexy. Right.
We've got the best fullback in center, which I still think they have the best fullback in center.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, they're still a very good team. They're still really good.
They're a very good team, but yeah, that was

Speaker 4 short-lived. Yeah, it was fun, though.
I'm glad that we got to give Iowa a shout-out.

Speaker 7 Yeah, number two for a while. But yeah, Purdue, that was a hell of a game.
Because they not only beat him, they whooped him in their house.

Speaker 7 Go ahead.

Speaker 12 The last nominee is Bill Belichick for playing with blood streaming down his face and not using chapstick.

Speaker 7 Which that is a football guy.

Speaker 4 I'm not so sold on the fact that it was just chapped lips. I think he had like an internal mouth injury.

Speaker 7 He also had a cut on his nose. Yeah.
So something, he got a fight with like a raccoon that was trying to eat his trap.

Speaker 7 He probably, there was probably some type of wild animal that was going through his trash and he's like, they're going after my secrets. And he like wrestled with a raccoon.

Speaker 4 It was Steve. Yeah.
It was Steve going through his trash.

Speaker 7 Steve's still doing the crazy mouse stuff.

Speaker 4 It's amazing. What a dip in.
It's amazing how they caught him on the sidelines, and for the only two seconds that the camera showed him today, he was doing the mouth thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I saw Bill, once he started tasting blood inside his mouth, he started doing the mouth stuff, too.

Speaker 7 Belichicks, weird birds.

Speaker 7 All right. Thank you, Billy.
You're going to write the blog? I've already got it. Okay.
Awesome. Football guy of the week.
Go vote on it. All right.
Let's wrap up.

Speaker 7 Let's do Who's Back of the Week, and we'll send everyone on their ways.

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Speaker 3 Hank, my who's back of the week is America's pastime, baseball.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 3 And we'll be playoffs. We've been buzzing along.

Speaker 7 The Braves had a walk-off as we were recording this.

Speaker 3 They're up 2-0. The Red Sox are tied 1-1 going into this week.

Speaker 7 I'm going to watch baseball this week. It's going to be a big week.
I'm going to watch baseball this week.

Speaker 3 Playoff baseball, it's similar to playoff hockey for me personally, where watching the regular season doesn't matter how much, even if I bet, I just don't get that interested in it.

Speaker 3 And playoff baseball and playoff hockey, like I don't even have to have any rooting interest in the game. You can just feel the intensity.

Speaker 3 Like the Dodgers, Giants, game five was was an all-time just intense, intense baseball rivalry game.

Speaker 4 It made the case great for robot umps. Yeah, at least for the check swing.

Speaker 7 Bullshit.

Speaker 4 I feel like first-base umpires just make it up most of the time when they ask to appeal to first base.

Speaker 7 His explanation was, I thought he went, so I called it a strike. Yeah, that's it.
He's like, Well, I guess we can't argue with that.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure the human eye isn't capable of determining, like, what angle a bat is at during a check swing from 90 feet away.

Speaker 7 The rules itself, like, you don't actually, you you have to offer up.

Speaker 4 It's so stupid. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So baseball's back, though.

Speaker 4 Baseball is big time back. When it comes to appealing a strikeout like that, what if the catcher had never pointed at the first base umpire? They always do.

Speaker 4 Does the first base umpire, though, like, does he have in his head, he's like, I have to wait if they call on me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if I get called on, he's out.

Speaker 3 This is my moment.

Speaker 7 And that's what I'm saying. That's what he was thinking.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 He had a strut.

Speaker 3 Like, he walked it off and walked it off.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm gonna watch some baseball playoffs this week because I it's very weird on a college football Saturday and NFL Sunday

Speaker 7 I did not see a single pitch of game two of the Red Sox Astros or game one of the Braves Dodgers not like not even a pitch two grand slams and two innings.

Speaker 7 I'm gonna get on that shit.

Speaker 4 All right, I'm gonna start watching that What I like about playoff baseball is the players actually care about the game.

Speaker 4 And a lot of times during the regular season, they're just like, they're bored when they're at the game. It's like, this is August.
It's hot outside. This sucks.

Speaker 7 Shout out Jock Peterson's bat, too. Anthony Rizzo's bat.
But that's what I'm rooting for in that series. Just so everyone knows where my allegiances lie.

Speaker 7 Braves.

Speaker 7 PFC.

Speaker 4 My Who's Back of the Week is Succession.

Speaker 4 Succession's back on. It was out tonight.
No spoilers, please. We haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 7 Hank, are you caught up? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they told me.

Speaker 4 Not caught up.

Speaker 3 I'm an episode behind.

Speaker 7 Imagine if we found a way to watch the episode while we were here and then spoil it.

Speaker 13 We wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 That'd be amazing. Actually, should we delete this entire part? Because now people are definitely going to be able to do it.

Speaker 7 Absolutely. Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'll delete it, guys.

Speaker 4 Okay, thanks, Hank. Appreciate it.
Wait.

Speaker 4 Are you going to prank me?

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I got you. All right.
Who's your who's back, PFT?

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is not the TV show succession

Speaker 4 because I don't watch it, and so it'd be pointless if somebody tried to spoil it for me because it's not like I spend my time watching it or reading fan theories about it. So don't even bother.

Speaker 7 Okay, nice. Greg dies.
Good who's back. Damn it.
Greg the egg.

Speaker 4 Should we do a

Speaker 7 recap on Wednesdays?

Speaker 4 Succession isn't owned. It's leased.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Rent is due every day.

Speaker 7 We won't call it that, but we will do a recap on Wednesdays. We'll do like a five-minute quick recap.
If you watch the show, maybe put it before guys on chicks. We all watch the show here.

Speaker 7 It's a very awesome show.

Speaker 4 Guys on success. Yeah.

Speaker 7 All right. who's back is

Speaker 7 the Chicago Sky. Won the WNBA championship.
If you don't remember, I was a two-time,

Speaker 7 I don't think you say two-time.

Speaker 7 I owned season tickets for two years. Oh, congrats.
So huge day. Do you get a ring? I don't think so.
I missed the game.

Speaker 7 It was on during NFL Sunday, but I just told you that part about baseball, so that's not sexist of me. I just don't watch other sports in the fall.

Speaker 3 It's nice to be an owner of a franchise in Chicago and be able to say, you know, I own these tickets.

Speaker 7 yeah what do you mean it's just it's cool that is cool yeah I don't own them anymore but

Speaker 7 yeah are you just is this Aaron Rodgers thing

Speaker 7 god damn it um yeah shout out the sky and also who's back is live sports because I went to Tennessee on Saturday night it was fucking awesome the fans might have gotten a little out of hand.

Speaker 4 I say let them throw.

Speaker 7 Throwing golf balls and mustard bottles.

Speaker 4 I heard you were encouraging it.

Speaker 7 I was.

Speaker 7 I actually was just standing on the field with a huge hot dog being like, has anyone got any mustard? And that's how it all started.

Speaker 4 It's very funny that people actually went to games with golf balls in their pockets.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was thinking about it. Either that person...

Speaker 7 is just such a down-in-the-dumps Tennessee fan that they're like, at some point I'm going to want to throw this golf ball at someone.

Speaker 7 Or most likely it was just like a drunk dude who was golfing earlier than the day. Yeah.
And just forgot.

Speaker 4 You're wearing cargo shorts and it's in that pocket. Maybe you haven't watched it from the last time that you went golfing.
It happened to be there.

Speaker 4 And honestly, if you like pick up a golf ball at a game and you're frustrated, it must feel so satisfying to throw the golf ball. You're actually going to throw the golf ball.

Speaker 4 As long as no one gets hurt,

Speaker 4 I say litter. Yes.
I'm pro-litter at football games.

Speaker 7 But Knoxville was incredible. That stadium is awesome.
We were on the field for like the beginning of the game.

Speaker 7 Just sick. College football, there's nothing, nothing like college football from from like a live sports action, like the band, everything.
What are you going to say? You think something's better?

Speaker 3 No, I was going to say, should we talk about the more unfortunate college football news?

Speaker 7 What? Oh. Our boy.

Speaker 4 Coacho. Coach O got fired because he likes to be.

Speaker 7 He's too horny. He's too horny.

Speaker 11 It's a separation agreement.

Speaker 7 A separation agreement, yes.

Speaker 7 You know what? That's the official word. It was mutual.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was his idea as much as it was theirs. They're going to stick around for the kids for the rest of the year.

Speaker 4 Try to make it work, and I'm sure that'll go fine.

Speaker 7 Sorry, Cocho is a red-blooded American.

Speaker 4 The problem is, like, he's just,

Speaker 4 he's too vivacious. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He's too,

Speaker 7 he's too in shape.

Speaker 4 His libido is too robust. And really, all he was doing is he saw a woman and he invited her to work out with him.

Speaker 4 Is that a crime?

Speaker 7 She happened to be pregnant and also the wife of a high-level guy at LSU.

Speaker 7 But that, to me, actually is he was looking out for the baby's health.

Speaker 4 He was trying to save her life, maybe the baby's life. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 7 So Coacho. He went undefeated.
Yeah, 2019 flies forever. So he'll be back somewhere.
I don't know where,

Speaker 7 but someone will be happy to have him as a recruiter.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't be surprised if he just kind of like, you know, hangs out in Baton Rouge and then in 10 years.

Speaker 7 They hire him again?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he could do that. I could imagine.
Or that would be sick. I mean, he should just hang out.

Speaker 3 Like, once that donor dies or whoever it is.

Speaker 4 Next time any program needs an interim head coach.

Speaker 7 He should be interim for hire.

Speaker 4 He should be a full-time interim coach.

Speaker 7 Yes, yes. It is sad.
It's sad to end of an era, but it was a hell of an era. It was an awesome, awesome time, and we love Coach O forever.

Speaker 4 They asked him what his future plans were. He said, I think he'll have me enough money to buy a hamburger.

Speaker 7 There we go.

Speaker 7 He's going to be eating. Coach O, you want to come to New York? Hop on the podcast?

Speaker 13 We'd love to have you.

Speaker 7 So how was the scene in Baton Rouge?

Speaker 3 It was awesome. I mean, always definitely, I've been lucky enough to be a lot of college atmospheres.
It's definitely the most authentic, like, college atmosphere that's also crazy on game days.

Speaker 3 Doesn't matter that it was an 11 a.m. start.
The game was a shootout.

Speaker 3 One of the most fun

Speaker 3 games I've been to where it's like we were on a bachelor party, everyone bet the over, and we were just like rooting for points the whole time, never in doubt.

Speaker 3 Florida's quarterback that they put in second is Cam Newton, 2.0.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 3 He's on my big board for Heisman next year.

Speaker 7 Yeah. He passed the eyeball.

Speaker 3 Who else? He passed the eyeball off.

Speaker 7 Who else is on your big board? Him? Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 I haven't seen Caleb Williams with my own eyes.

Speaker 7 It's just him. Just him.
Okay, just him. There's Hank's big board.
Billy, you're who's back.

Speaker 7 My

Speaker 7 football.

Speaker 4 It's actually D3 football.

Speaker 7 Dude, Jake, who's your who's back?

Speaker 7 No, go ahead, Billy. Go ahead.

Speaker 12 No, there was just a D3 football game between two Wisconsin, Platteville and Wisconsin lacrosse, where at the end of the game, it was 23-24.

Speaker 7 Lacrosse is the name of the town.

Speaker 7 We got to move there. It's a town of the future.
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 Fastest town on two feet.

Speaker 12 Anyway, they were about to set up the game-winning field goal. It was 24-23, and their quarterback was supposed to spike it.

Speaker 7 He kneeled it with two seconds left. Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's the one mistake you don't want to make.

Speaker 12 And this guy had a great game, too. He had like 463 yards and two touchdowns, but that's like, that's a heartbreak game.

Speaker 7 He's back?

Speaker 12 Um, yeah, just it's a great story.

Speaker 12 I mean, it's a bad story, but like

Speaker 7 I'm,

Speaker 3 I guess we needed to hear that. I mean,

Speaker 7 that has to be mentioned.

Speaker 7 Like, what do you do if you do that?

Speaker 3 There's people, like, imagine if there was people going on to their work today and they couldn't talk about

Speaker 7 Northwestern lacrosse,

Speaker 4 dude. You know what? Okay, who's back of the week?

Speaker 7 Batman.

Speaker 4 Fucking Batman's back.

Speaker 7 What's Batman up there? Fucking new movie. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I didn't even watch it. Is that what you nerds?

Speaker 7 Batman a football guy?

Speaker 3 It's actually no. It's the Batman.
It's a different title. When is it back?

Speaker 7 Is it Christopher Nolan? No, it's fucking vampire.

Speaker 7 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 4 Is it a cartoon? No, it's. They should bring back the cartoon.

Speaker 7 Goth Noir. No, I want Christopher Nolan to just make more Batmans.
Goth Noir? Yeah.

Speaker 12 There's like an artsy Batman.

Speaker 7 With a vampire.

Speaker 4 If Derek Carr was Batman.

Speaker 7 Not even.

Speaker 4 Is he a billionaire?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think so. Derek Carr's got some flow, by the way, right now.
He's big time.

Speaker 13 Definitely growing that up.

Speaker 7 Jake, your who's back. Oh!

Speaker 11 The 280-day drought is over. Rams 38.
Giants 11. I'm sorry I didn't mention that.
No, it's good because I was saving it for this, anyways.

Speaker 7 So were you

Speaker 7 on a plane?

Speaker 11 I was on a plane. I bought the Wi-Fi.
It was kind of sketchy Wi-Fi, in and out. But enough to witness it with my own eyes.
Mini Firefest.

Speaker 7 What do you mean, witness it? You were watching the game? Or you were watching the scoreboard app?

Speaker 4 No, there was, you could, you were refreshing Twitter.

Speaker 7 No, you could watch the game. Well, you were watching the game.
Yeah, but it was like, like, buffering. Got it.

Speaker 3 I forgot to mention this. I was going to text you too.
Will Wade was just sitting in our seats yesterday.

Speaker 7 Oh, really? What? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, we walked up to our seats, and I'm like looking at the tickets, looking at him. I was like, I think this guy's in our seats.
And he had a credential on. It was like, Will Wade,

Speaker 3 football coach, or basketball coach or whatever.

Speaker 4 And I was just so thrown off in the the moment.

Speaker 3 This is right when we walked in. I was like, just not, I was like, processed it all quickly.
There was an open lane, like two, two rows behind. We were 10 guys.

Speaker 3 I was like, let's just sit up here for a second and figure it out. If these people come, I'll go tell, you know,

Speaker 3 I'll go kick Will out of our seats. Make him a damn steering.

Speaker 7 He's an American gangster, after all.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 the people in our seats never came, and he left after the first half. So that never had to happen.

Speaker 3 But I was getting myself ready to be like, hey, Will, you know, produce part of my take, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 7 Also, like,

Speaker 7 can you get the fuck out out of my seats? Graham, bro.

Speaker 4 He left at halftime, though.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they might have gone somewhere else. There was like a bunch of, you could tell, it was a bunch of like recruits or coaches and stuff.

Speaker 3 I think they just walked up, took the seats, and then were waiting for someone to kick them out.

Speaker 4 It's still so awesome to me that Will Wade.

Speaker 3 It was a hilarious, like, what are the chances?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Will Wade was just basically like, no, I think I'm going to keep coaching.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, forget about these. I can't do that.

Speaker 4 I'd rather continue to coach. Yeah, I'm going to do that.

Speaker 7 Shout out to Sean Miller. I think he's been fired now, right? No.

Speaker 7 yeah is he hired tommy lloyd the gonzagans that's right but sean miller did the same thing where he's just like yeah i'm just gonna i'm just gonna coach through this yeah respect yeah it turns out that's all you need

Speaker 7 yeah he was like yeah no i if you guys don't have anything firm here yeah

Speaker 4 because it turns out like the ncaa is fake yeah it's just people that gave themselves jobs yes and so if you just say no i don't feel like it there's really nothing they can do anyways three three weeks until the season starts chem bomb came out today oh exciting stuff nice yeah um who's on your big board

Speaker 7 uh

Speaker 7 syracuse okay nice man um scoreigami though huge moment yeah a little bit of a fire fest not being able to witness it with you guys here i it's all we were talking about i know i'm not gonna lie jake and i know this is probably gonna hurt you but uh no one said anything about it

Speaker 10 yeah but a lot of people

Speaker 3 i did when they showed the graphic later on, I was like, oh, I wouldn't have, Jay, you would have been on it beforehand.

Speaker 7 Oh, you would have been telling us the whole time. But we just lived life without knowing it.

Speaker 4 So it kind of worked out I wasn't here.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we didn't have to deal with it. Yes.
No, no, no. It's not a deal with you thing.
It just, it was, I wish you had been here.

Speaker 7 Okay. And the Lunder Hit.
Then I would have actually even known that it was happening.

Speaker 11 And the Lunder Hit.

Speaker 7 And the Lunder. And the Lunder Hit.
And the Lunder Hit. It's a great day for me.
And the Lunder Dog. I was made up weird things I root for.

Speaker 7 If you went and worked at, you know, like, let's say you got Sunday night football tomorrow and we never saw you again, I don't, and you asked me what scoregami is like 10 days from now, I'd be like, I don't fucking know.

Speaker 7 So I appreciate what you do.

Speaker 7 Of course.

Speaker 4 My hack is that I see if a game's going into overtime and then I'm like, that's probably going to be a scoregami if it ties.

Speaker 11 If it is

Speaker 11 2020, like today, tonight had no shot.

Speaker 7 No shot. Damn, dunked on BFT.

Speaker 4 What if it was 23-23?

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 7 no shot.

Speaker 7 He gave you a no-shot. No shot.
He gave you a no-shot. All right.
Because they used to tie all the time back in the day, right?

Speaker 11 I think that's what it is. Yeah.
22 is a tie. 25 is a tie.
32 and 36.

Speaker 7 So he did have a shot.

Speaker 11 15. All those ties.

Speaker 13 23, 23 would have been a...

Speaker 7 No. Oh.
No, no.

Speaker 11 No, the ones I just listed would be scoregamis.

Speaker 4 Jake said no shot. He mentioned it.

Speaker 7 No shot. He knows what he's talking about.
We ever had two score games in one day?

Speaker 7 I don't think so.

Speaker 11 We had 12 last season.

Speaker 7 So, like, in 50 years, there'll be none left.

Speaker 11 The website goes up to 73.51.

Speaker 7 It could happen.

Speaker 7 Someone has way too much time on their hands. But then again, I have dumb hobbies too.

Speaker 7 Actually, I don't.

Speaker 4 I just watch too much football. For the record, it's 114.

Speaker 7 It is 114. A little early.
A little early. Kaylee, got anything left?

Speaker 7 Yep. Any other D2, D1, AA, FCS?

Speaker 13 This is the end of the show, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Okay, so

Speaker 7 College of Rugby. Just wanted to give you guys

Speaker 7 updates.

Speaker 7 Pop Warner?

Speaker 12 CT scans on Daryl Taylor were clear, so the guy got carted off the field. He's doing well.
And Dad.

Speaker 7 Dowdy's doing well.

Speaker 12 Well, he's not. He's doing better.

Speaker 12 Got it.

Speaker 4 He didn't even do the whip dance when he was getting carted off the field.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 3 If he did the whip dance.

Speaker 7 How good could he be doing?

Speaker 12 No, but if he'd done the whip dance, then we'd all have been like, oh, like, that's fine. Like, he's doing okay.

Speaker 12 Also, the reason

Speaker 12 they don't show fans on the broadcast is because advertisers could pay their bail and make it really cheap to advertise on the broadcast if they had someone run out with like a sign or something.

Speaker 7 Got it. Got it.
That makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 12 And then also, even though we said that this was a bad week of football, like, aren't we thankful that we have football?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 12 Because remember, we almost didn't have it. COVID.

Speaker 7 But here's the thing. It's important to say how you feel about the week of football.
Otherwise, you can't be like, every week rules.

Speaker 7 Because then you can't actually genuinely say the weeks that rule rule.

Speaker 7 Perspective.

Speaker 4 It was still good to have football, though. You're right.

Speaker 13 Of course. You're right.
We're thankful every day.

Speaker 7 We're football to win a few more bets and the Bears to not lose to Aaron Rodgers every single time. Is that so much to ask for? No.
All right, numbers.

Speaker 12 69.

Speaker 13 97. 96.

Speaker 13 18.

Speaker 7 52.

Speaker 7 Scoregami. Damn.

Speaker 7 Whoa. Uh-oh.

Speaker 11 It moves from five to six.

Speaker 11 Second place behind the juggernaut, 47.

Speaker 4 47.

Speaker 13 The goat.

Speaker 12 Fish don't pay taxes.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 What inside joke was that?

Speaker 7 You don't get it?

Speaker 4 They go to school, though.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 Talking away.

Speaker 4 I don't know what I'm I'm to say I'd say it anyway

Speaker 4 Today's a mighty day to find you Shy it away

Speaker 4 Oh I've been coming for your love, okay

Speaker 4 Shy it away

Speaker 4 Oh, I've been coming for your love, okay

Speaker 4 Needless to say

Speaker 4 I've said it

Speaker 4 but be stoned away

Speaker 4 Say I'm three

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Speaker 7 It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 7 Bake

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 me.

Speaker 7 Make

Speaker 7 me

Speaker 7 go.

Speaker 7 I don't want to take you.

Speaker 7 You're talking away.

Speaker 7 So I don't know what

Speaker 7 to say. I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 7 Today's a matter of day to find you. Shy it away.

Speaker 7 No, I've been coming for your love of kid.

Speaker 7 Shy it away.

Speaker 7 No, I've been coming for your love of kid. Needless to say,

Speaker 7 I hope it's bumpy so little way.

Speaker 7 The only

Speaker 7 one is okay.

Speaker 7 Say I'm free.

Speaker 7 It's no better to say that sorry.

Speaker 7 Say I'm free.

Speaker 7 Save the song.

Speaker 7 Say

Speaker 7 gone.

Speaker 7 Maybe

Speaker 7 all

Speaker 7 the

Speaker 7 girls

Speaker 7 to be

Speaker 7 gone.

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Speaker 7 Check

Speaker 7 All the things that you say

Speaker 7 is a little eyeball. Just to play my worries away.

Speaker 7 You're all the things I've got to remember. If you're shying away,

Speaker 7 well, I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 7 If you're shying away,

Speaker 7 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 7 Take

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 me.

Speaker 7 Take

Speaker 7 me

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 I will be

Speaker 7 gone

Speaker 7 in a day

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Speaker 7 gone

Speaker 7 in a day day,

Speaker 7 take, take out, take out, take out, check, take out, take it, chick, chicken, take it.

Speaker 7 Take out,

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Speaker 7 shake out one.