Booger McFarland, CFB, Gruden Resigns and Fan Fight For The Ages In KC

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Speaker 3 On today's part of my take, we have Booger McFarlane, great friend of the program, talking college football, talking NFL. We're going to recap Monday night football.
John Gruden has resigned.

Speaker 3 We talk our college football, recap of what it was a crazy weekend in college football.

Speaker 3 We also have a Monday reading on a Wednesday, the big fight of the Super fans in Kansas City, and Hot Seat Cool Throne. Awesome show for you.

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Did anything happen during Monday Night Football?

Speaker 5 It actually overshadowed the game for the first part. Yeah.
And, of course, we're talking about Major League Baseball playoffs. Correct.
Red Sox Team of Destiny.

Speaker 5 I think they're going deep in Soctober.

Speaker 3 They're going to the World Series. They have something about them that is going to, I don't know what it is, but Hank is actually right before we started taking

Speaker 3 with. Oh, I forgot I'm not allowed to talk about private car.
He was looking at the schedule and being like, yeah,

Speaker 3 and being like, when can I go to a World Series game?

Speaker 5 Hank, you should do it.

Speaker 3 You should. Well, I was trying to figure out.

Speaker 7 I was trying to figure out who got homefield advantage, who won the All-Star game this year,

Speaker 3 and figure out whether or not the Red Sox would be playing.

Speaker 3 But yeah, the big story, it was basically, it was our John Lennon, Howard Kosell moment where John Lennon gets killed and Howard Kosell announces it over Monday Night Football.

Speaker 3 This generation has John Gruden resigning over Monday Night Football because of some emails that it the phrasing that ESPN used was, I had to chuckle a little because they said

Speaker 3 John Gruden wrote emails that were homophobic,

Speaker 3 misogynistic, and racist, and also against Roger Goodell. The four most persecuted classes in the world.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Women, minorities, gay people, and the failed son of a senator that gets paid $40 million a year.

Speaker 5 NFL Commissioners, it's a protected class.

Speaker 3 Looking up big cats.

Speaker 5 Like, what? Roger Goodell, when he saw it, like, okay, the first email got leaked on Friday, and it was like, wait, we just found out that John Gruden sent racist emails.

Speaker 5 And Goodell's response was like, we will conduct a thorough investigation. He also insulted Roger Goodell and called him gay.

Speaker 3 Fire that motherfucker right now. Well, no, so the craziest thing with the timeline of this is the Raiders had all the emails on Friday.
It was very clear that the NFL was basically saying to the,

Speaker 3 I almost said Oakland Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders,

Speaker 3 here is what John Gruden has in his emails. You should fire him right now.
And if you don't, we'll just release more emails on Monday. They didn't fire him, and then more emails came out on Monday.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was going to be waterboarding by bigotry. Yeah.
The rate that they were going to leak him out at. And you do have to wonder who leaked the emails.

Speaker 5 It's either Roger Goodell or it's somebody in the Washington football team front office, maybe some bad blood with the whole Jay Gruden, Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen thing, the way that ended.

Speaker 3 It's like a house of cards with the dumbest people involved.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, it's like succession if every character was Greg the Egg. Yes.
That's what happens in and around the Washington football team. As a fan ambassador, I can say that because it's about ourselves.

Speaker 5 You can.

Speaker 3 But yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm shocked I haven't been fired from my position as fan ambassador yet.

Speaker 3 I think you're just Milton from the office. Yeah.

Speaker 3 They haven't told me she's. They just don't realize that you're still a fan ambassador.

Speaker 5 I had an idea when I saw these emails come out. Should we get Frank Caliendo back on the show to do a table read?

Speaker 3 A lot of people were sad for Frank Caliendo, the real tragic figure in all of this.

Speaker 5 And Nathan Peterman. Yeah, and Nathan Peterman.
He's like, come on, guys, can't we forgive and forget? I mean, it was 10 years ago. Keep brewing around, please.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it also, I mean, it's not really shocking that John Gruden might not be like the nicest guy. No.
I wasn't like, whoa. Well, how could this be?

Speaker 5 It makes my little woke John Gruden bit that I pulled out after the Carl Nassip thing aged pretty poorly in reference to poorly.

Speaker 3 Yes. But now we have interim head coach.

Speaker 3 I think PFT, you and I had the same exact thought at pretty much the exact same time that Mark Davis should be the coach. Give us Mark Davis as the coach of the Raiders.
Yes. Why not?

Speaker 5 Al Davis did it. His dad did it.
That's awesome. You know, at the very least, the thought has occurred to Mark Davis.

Speaker 5 Like, he's looking at a whistle that's on his wall right now, and he's like, I got the whistle right here.

Speaker 3 I got the white jeans.

Speaker 5 I got the clipboard.

Speaker 3 I got the haircut.

Speaker 3 I got the sunglasses.

Speaker 5 Please, Mark. It would be very disappointing if we didn't get at least one game with him.
But you know that there's definitely one resume that's being sent out there right now.

Speaker 3 Where who? Jeff Fisher.

Speaker 3 Well, there's that.

Speaker 5 I also don't think Dana Holgerson would turn down an opportunity to live in this role.

Speaker 3 That would be pretty funny. That'd be amazing.
Although Houston's rolling right now, also the big winner is Urban Meyer because

Speaker 3 people got off of him for a second. Even though he did have the quote that his goal every game is to run for 250 yards and pass for 250 yards, which what's wrong with that?

Speaker 3 It's a great goal. It's good to have it.
It's a good goal. It's happened 33 times in the last 52 years.

Speaker 5 The perfect ratio is actually 15, 15, 30. I would think that Urban Meyer would know about that.

Speaker 3 Yes, he absolutely. Although he seems like a selfish lover, so he probably just does the third.

Speaker 5 Well, 15 grabbing ass, 15 denying that you got grabbers, 30 apologizing for grabbing ass.

Speaker 3 For not apologizing.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 7 Did you guys see the Schefter watch Schefter live when he said that he hit for like a clean sweep?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 did you hear this? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'll put this in.

Speaker 8 In which John Gruden had a clean sweep of offending NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Women, gays, minorities, all sorts of people.

Speaker 3 He called it a clean sweep.

Speaker 3 Roger Goodell is the first name listed.

Speaker 3 It's like, that's the best part about this.

Speaker 3 They're like, yeah, gays, minorities, Roger Goodell. This is so terrible.
Yeah, Commissioner Lives Matter.

Speaker 3 Roger Goodell getting the first listing on that, on the clean sweep bingo card of John Gruden was, but ESPN is trying to get, you know, they want to be in good grace of the NFL.

Speaker 3 So it has been very apparent that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 5 You wonder how Adam Schefter gets Adam Schefter money, and it's for the little details like that.

Speaker 5 Making sure that he knows that he's going to be a good boy, letting everyone know, yeah, please, I'll do your dance for you, Commissioner. Just make sure to keep feeding me my treats.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't just put like gays, minorities, and women in parentheses. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or maybe it's a quote, you know,

Speaker 3 that would be funny if Schefter had done it as a thread.

Speaker 3 And like, John Gruden has offended Roger Goodell, one of one, one of two, or one of two, two of two, also pretty much every other person on earth.

Speaker 5 Oh, and also, John Gruden, in one of the emails, forgot to put the accent on Kiki Hernandez's.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 So, uh, big now, it that story uh it was actually kind of crazy how it worked out because that story led the first three quarters of Monday Night Football, which was the Colts kicking the shit out of the Ravens.

Speaker 3 And then, when it was like everyone had processed it, the Ravens also processed it, woke up. Lamar Jackson was absolutely incredible, and the Colts are just.

Speaker 3 You know what I actually realized last night?

Speaker 3 I think what I hate about Carson Wentz is how he holds his elbows

Speaker 5 in the pocket. Go on.

Speaker 3 So he's like, he's very chicken-boned. His point bones.
Like he's doing the chicken dance. And it bothers me to no end.
I'm sure it's like fundamentally, Billy, you can speak to it.

Speaker 3 Fundamentally, probably pretty good, you know, keeping the ball up, not letting it drop below your waist. But it's like this always.

Speaker 5 He's stiff, he's stiff. And it bothers me for being a pretty athletic guy, he is pretty stiff in the pocket.

Speaker 3 It bothers me a lot.

Speaker 5 Lamar Jackson, though, was unstoppable last night. So unstoppable.
So, here are a couple fun stats about Lamar, some of the records that he said, because he set like a million.

Speaker 5 442 passing yards. That's a Baltimore Ravens record.
They've got a long history of great quarterbacks in Baltimore, obviously.

Speaker 5 He was the first person in history to throw for 400 yards and four touchdowns while completing 85% of his throws.

Speaker 5 He completed 86 of his throws, which is the highest all time for a player who passed for at least 400 yards.

Speaker 5 And the 86% mark was also the highest among any player who has ever attempted at least 40 passes in a game. Damn.
Pretty fucking good game.

Speaker 3 Pretty good game. It is funny you bring up the passing of the Baltimore Ravens.
It reminds me of my favorite stat ever when the Ravens won the Super Bowl in the 2000 season.

Speaker 3 They went five consecutive games without scoring an offensive touchdown. And they went two and three in in those games, which is equally as crazy.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's just, you can't.

Speaker 5 Defense was crazy.

Speaker 3 It's crazy. But yes, that was an unbelievable performance by Lamar.
Now, I will say the Colts' secondary was very banged up. They were kind of the walking wounded, but it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 The Ravens had that comeback.

Speaker 3 Of course, we had another missed kick. They're all synced up.
It was perfect that Rodrigo Blanketship just ended.

Speaker 3 He actually

Speaker 3 did that on purpose for every kicker because then they brought up how many missed kicks were made. And you're like, I don't even remember half of these missed kicks.

Speaker 3 Huh, I'll just put it all on Mason Crosby.

Speaker 5 Well, and of course, we only got an opportunity to see Justin Tucker kick like a 25-yard field goal. So he's really the one.
If he starts missing, then there's an issue.

Speaker 5 Then you have to look at either Mercury and Retrograde or look at the balls. Yes.
Look at the special K-balls.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I don't know how those K-balls are stored.
I know that they're the ones that they have like their own protocol, right?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 So I i think they're like yeah they're they're definitely more inflated not scuffed up yeah they're not they're like they're shinier yep are they being kept in a different facility right now that's a good question it's time to take a look at the balls it's time to look at the cables um other things real quick in the nfl that we well i i should say marquise hollywood brown yes he's hollywood he's hollywood he's hollywood his nickname is back he's hollywood brown yep until at least friday we might take it away for the weekend keep him motivated but he's earned the right to be hollywood this week yes he is hollywood uh mark andrews is also hollywood Hollywood Andrews is what I call him.

Speaker 3 But yeah, the Ravens, like that was that was a crazy, crazy good performance from Mamar. And the Ravens, I don't know, they're just always consistent.

Speaker 3 They're just consistently always a dangerous team. It's a very well-run franchise.

Speaker 5 I have one more question about

Speaker 5 the John Gruden thing. So do you think Deuce is going to stay around? I know it was reported that he's sticking around.

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 5 But can you really...

Speaker 5 I don't know. Your dad leaves.

Speaker 3 No, I think you got to stick around. Deuce is

Speaker 5 probably the...

Speaker 3 For the guys' nutrition.

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 3 You can't leave.

Speaker 3 You can't leave the nutrition behind.

Speaker 5 He cares too much about their bodies to leave them mid-season.

Speaker 3 Imagine the gains that get lost if Deuce leaves.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that'd be bad.

Speaker 3 He's got to stick around.

Speaker 5 I would definitely bet against the Raiders if Deuce left at this point.

Speaker 3 I would also love to see Deuce in a dog shelter, like an NFL version of a dog shelter where someone comes and picks him up. Because he really is a pit bull on the sidelines.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I would be terrified if I were the interim coach that Deuce would just come in and kill me at some point out of vengeance for his father. It's like Shakespearean.

Speaker 5 And his dad, John Gruden, was probably like, Deuce, I thought I told you to destroy all those emails. Yeah.
And he just had Deuce like smashing computers.

Speaker 3 He was deadlifting on top of him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Putting the computer underneath, lifting up thousands of pounds and then dropping it on the computer.

Speaker 5 Dropping weights.

Speaker 3 He's like, yeah, that actually doesn't do anything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right. So, yeah.
Oh, the other thing I wanted to say before we get to college football,

Speaker 3 the Bills, because

Speaker 3 that game was going on during the taping on Sunday night. The Bills are fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 And the Chiefs might have some problems, but the Bills are awesome.

Speaker 3 Patrick Mahomes, this is now what?

Speaker 7 I'll let you finish. I'll let you finish.

Speaker 3 I was going to say, Patrick Mahomes, the defense is terrible, but Patrick Mahomes has also not been incredible. Like, he's had incredible moments, but he hasn't been like lights out Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 Are people starting to sour on him?

Speaker 5 I'm definitely souring on a big.

Speaker 3 No, no.

Speaker 5 I definitely am. A lot of people around the league, league circles, are saying the story out of Kansas City is that the Chiefs should trade Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 5 They're saying that a lot of willing partners out there,

Speaker 5 Washington football team would be one, probably,

Speaker 5 that would be interesting. But if I'm a Chiefs fan, man, I'll tell you, I'd run that guy out of town on a rail.
I'd say, see you later, Patrick. No, thank you.

Speaker 3 By the way, did you see that the Bills credited Mitch Trubisky for running Patrick Mahomes' offense in practices all week?

Speaker 5 His scout team, Mahomes.

Speaker 3 He's He's better than Mahomes.

Speaker 3 Gave him a look.

Speaker 7 I saw PFT had an issue with this earlier, so I want to bring it up because I also was personally offended.

Speaker 7 You put out your Big Cats 2-3 NFL power rankings.

Speaker 3 So this is it. Chiefs won.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 7 San Francisco 49ers, 2. Steelers, 3.

Speaker 3 Seahawks, 4. Vikings, 5.

Speaker 3 Eagles, 6. Uh-huh.

Speaker 7 Patriots, 7. Football team, 8.
Falcons, 9.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So? It's a bullshit list.

Speaker 3 Bullshit your own list. Bullshit.
No, no. I'm arguing with your list.
Well, I'm just curious if

Speaker 7 you know what you were doing it for effect, right? Like, you just come clean. We're in the trust tree.

Speaker 3 You said the pay. Actually, I probably, the only mistake was I probably should add the Washington football team above the Patriots.
You said yourself they kind of suck. They barely beat the Texans.

Speaker 3 They could be 4-1 right now. Okay, and they aren't.

Speaker 7 They're better than the, they would beat the Eagles, the Vikings, the Seahawks, and the Steelers,

Speaker 3 and probably the 49ers.

Speaker 5 Big guy, Geno Smith as the quarterback. Exactly.
The Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 3 Big Ben is a corpse.

Speaker 3 You guys shit on Kirk Cousins every single week. Jalen Jalen Hurts isn't trusting.
Sunday night to being like, I have to probably admit that the Patriots aren't good to now, like they're the best.

Speaker 7 I was close to possibly admitting it if they had lost, which I did not.

Speaker 3 Got it. And well, good news is they can always climb the list.
Or, you know what? If they lose again, they'll be two and four. They'll probably be better than some other two and four teams.
All right.

Speaker 3 I just wanted to.

Speaker 5 I think that.

Speaker 7 I saw a PFT mention something, too. I had an internal thought.

Speaker 9 You got your own list.

Speaker 5 There are a couple issues with the list. Number one, I think, is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yep.

Speaker 5 They're way overrated on that list.

Speaker 3 They're third to last. Yeah, fourth.
Fourth to last.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but they're ahead of my team, which I have a problem with.

Speaker 5 And then, obviously, the Seattle Seahawks. I think that with Geno Smith, we saw a little bit of Geno Matt.

Speaker 9 I love Geno.

Speaker 3 I love Geno. Also, I think Russell will eventually come back.
And I love Geno.

Speaker 3 So that's where I ranked him. All right.

Speaker 5 What are you going to do? I guess we'll see. Yeah, that's why they

Speaker 7 complain.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's like everyone else. They complain about it.
They get very upset about my rankings, and that's fine.

Speaker 3 That's the whole point of it, is to get conversation going. So I appreciate you bringing it up.

Speaker 5 We're just having a conversation.

Speaker 3 It gets the debate raging on a Tuesday when I only... And for some people asking, like, where does this team...

Speaker 3 The rankings are just for teams that are below 500. Maybe I'll add 500 later on in the year, but

Speaker 3 it's a shine for the teams that suck.

Speaker 5 I think that if the Giants had beaten the Washington football team and they were 2-3 on the year, you would have the Giants way higher. You love the Giants.

Speaker 5 That's my argument is I'm making up the hype.

Speaker 3 You hate the Giants.

Speaker 5 No, I don't hate them. I'm making up the hype

Speaker 5 scenario. Yeah,

Speaker 3 I have said that I have a problem with Daniel Jones and I keep buying in.

Speaker 3 You hate the Giants and won't admit that you hate the Giants.

Speaker 5 No, I love the Giants.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 3 That's a false. That's false.
I love the Giants.

Speaker 9 That is very false.

Speaker 3 I bet honest about my

Speaker 5 bias. I bet on the Giants.

Speaker 3 I am honest about my bias that Daniel Jones fucks me up and I think that he could actually be good, even though he's probably not you should be biased about the fact that you don't like the Giants I love the Giants that makes no sense why because you don't I love the Giants okay I absolutely I think the Giants are a perfectly fine football team

Speaker 3 if the Giants have beat the Washington football team yeah they probably well I mean we can't play ifs and I mean we gotta walk we gotta play the schedule y'all

Speaker 3 admitted it it's the two and three schedules it's two and three rankings very biased it's sad Those are actually completely unbiased. It's a computer ranking, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 3 You can make your own, but you can't argue with it.

Speaker 7 They have to get above 500.

Speaker 3 I love that it made both of you mad because that's the point of the

Speaker 3 oh, I know, yeah, exactly. No, I know it's crazy.
You just think, who can I get fired from?

Speaker 7 I wish you would, you know.

Speaker 5 He did it really well, too, because he knew that he couldn't put our two teams very last. He knew that he had to throw us a bone and put the Falcons.
But Big Cat absolutely knew what he was doing.

Speaker 5 He was like, I'm putting

Speaker 5 the Patriots and the football team.

Speaker 3 Hey, above 500 over here. What do you want me to do? Except that we got to play the packers whatever uh all right let's talk some college football um

Speaker 3 all right so chaos on saturday that texas oklahoma game i'm still i still don't really understand how oklahoma covered that spread and uh caleb williams is like oklahoma is so unfair that they have a backup who is better than their starter who's now going to be like the best quarterback in all of college football and they're like oh yeah let's just put this guy in now we're in rumor swirling central though because you can tell that things are starting to get they're starting to bubble a little bit under the scenes when the DMs start to fill up with obviously fake scoops from people who are on campus in Oklahoma being like, Spencer Rattler just quit.

Speaker 5 Spencer Rattler just threw a water cooler against the wall. Spencer Rattler just drove away 100 miles an hour in his Corvette from practice.
And then the team.

Speaker 3 This is an IL deal.

Speaker 5 The team has been informed that he is banned from the facility. Like, all these fake rumors, yeah, they're not true, any of them.
But there's smoke. I count that as smoke.

Speaker 3 No, there's definitely smoke.

Speaker 3 I mean, we talk about it with Booger in a second, but like there, it is very hard now for a program to keep two good quarterbacks on the roster for a long, like for a period of time because you can transfer right away and guys want to play and you see it all across college football.

Speaker 3 Did you guys see the Texas? I bullied them into tweeting. That was incredible that they, so Texas tweeted when it was a tie game 48-48, Texas football did.

Speaker 3 They did not tweet a single thing for two straight days. It was like the person in the account actually died, which I appreciate.
Like, I want my account to be a super fan like that.

Speaker 3 I wish they had gone all the way to kickoff of the next game to then just tweet, we're off and running in Austin, you know, Texas versus, I think, I can't even know.

Speaker 3 Who are they playing? Iowa State, maybe?

Speaker 3 But I was like, hey, Texas hasn't tweeted yet. I'm putting on alerts.
Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State.
And then they tweeted right away.

Speaker 3 But I really do think an account, like, instead of putting out the sad final, start just going, going dark, disappearing?

Speaker 5 There's no rule that says that you have to tweet out, hey, we just lost. It's not in there.
I do wish that Apple would make an emoji for Horns Down.

Speaker 5 I feel like we're, although that, you know what, that would be

Speaker 5 like warning this conversation can get intense.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 Once John Clayton, once anybody tweets that out. So I would like to see that make its way into the ranks of the emojis.
As far as Texas goes, I feel like this was a statement loss for him, though.

Speaker 5 Texas should have won this game.

Speaker 3 Well, they were the first three quarters of the game were like, I know we joke, but that was Texas being back. Yeah.
Like, Sark is incredible. They were running all over the place.

Speaker 3 That was Texas back.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Texas was back, and then they took Spencer Rattler out. Who, by the way, if Spencer Rattler does transfer somewhere, he can't transfer to Washington, Oregon.
He can't transfer to Michigan.

Speaker 5 He can't transfer to any school like that. You have to use the name that you have.
You have to stay, hopefully, in the Big 12 somewhere.

Speaker 3 Maybe Texas Tech.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Texas Tech would be perfect.

Speaker 3 Arizona would be good.

Speaker 5 Arizona, Arizona State. Yep.
That would work. Go somewhere cool.
Use the name. Yes.

Speaker 3 I agree with that. So that game was chaos.
And then obviously you had Iowa Penn State, which Iowa football is so glorious in who they are. And

Speaker 3 Iowa and Wisconsin kind of not this year, obviously, but are a very mirror image of who they are. And they know what they do and they know what they do well.

Speaker 3 Iowa, I don't think I've ever seen this before. Iowa wins that game.
They

Speaker 3 kneeled the ball and weren't able to run out the clock. They kneeled the ball just so they could punt one more time.
I've never seen that. They didn't try to get a first down.
They kneeled.

Speaker 3 They went victory formation for a one-final punt. Their punter is incredible.
They run the ball, they play defense, they punt. That's what they do, and they're the number two team in the country.

Speaker 3 And guess what?

Speaker 3 If that makes you sick that Iowa is the number two team in the country, they're going to probably be the number two team in the country for the next month and a half until they get to Indianapolis against Ohio State or Michigan or Michigan State or Penn State.

Speaker 3 Look, I threw them all in there.

Speaker 5 Do something about it if you don't like it. So, Iowa is the first football team that I've ever watched where I can't take my eyes off the center.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, he's a good guy. Their center kicks so much.
He's going to be a first-rounder.

Speaker 5 Tyler Linderbaum. I'm giving you that name right now.
And if you've watched any college football, you've probably known about him for a long time.

Speaker 3 Stanford Steve has a borderline,

Speaker 5 like, I'm going to call the cops' relationship with this guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, he's so obsessed with Cole Kubelik too. He's got, like, videos playing above his fireplace of this guy all the time.

Speaker 3 Also, shout out to Linderbaum. Shout out to Safer Steve real quick.
If you're looking for a PS5, hit up his Instagram.

Speaker 5 Oh, he let me know that he's got

Speaker 5 some sneakers. He's got shoes that he can send me.

Speaker 3 He got hacked. He got hacked.

Speaker 3 Oh, you did? He did hack. Okay.
Sorry, but if you need a PS5, he's been posting non-stop about how he's got PS5s for $450.

Speaker 5 He DM'd me on Sunday from his account. Let me do a dramatic reading.

Speaker 5 My peoples

Speaker 5 wanted to ask, would you be interested in being a model slash brand ambassador for blank, blank, blank in exchange for shoes? I texted Amelia.

Speaker 3 I was like, possibly.

Speaker 5 I was like, hey, I think he got hacked.

Speaker 9 Oh, you're like, yes, free shoes.

Speaker 5 But if the shoes are real, I'll take them.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 That would be great if the shoes were real.

Speaker 9 Hey, Peoples.

Speaker 5 But we're going to say, yeah, Tyler Linderbaum. This dude, he's going to be first-round pick.

Speaker 5 I would take him as high as it gets.

Speaker 3 I'm in love with Watson.

Speaker 5 I've never seen a center play where you can't take your eyes off him for the duration of the game. And it helps that Iowa runs Iowa's offense.
Correct. So he's in the mix a lot, you know? Correct.

Speaker 5 But this dude just murders people. He destroys people.

Speaker 5 He just smashes everyone. And then their fullback is also

Speaker 5 a bomb. He's a Potterbomb.
So they've got Potterbomb and Linderbaum. And those two guys just go out there and they destroy people.

Speaker 3 It's great. I mean, Iowa football is what it is.
And this is like, this is

Speaker 3 the apex of Iowa football. It's similar to 2015 when they went undefeated and lost to Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game.
But yeah, Iowa's a really, really good team.

Speaker 3 People will be mad about it because

Speaker 3 their offense is not great.

Speaker 10 Is it a good comparison to like Virginia basketball? Like ugly, but they get it done.

Speaker 3 Yeah, although I don't think like speaking, maybe Iowa fans will feel differently, but like speaking as, again, like the sister school or like the, you know, the twin of Iowa football in Wisconsin, it will never, will never win a national title.

Speaker 3 Because there's a level of. I think about Virginia.
No, I think Virginia, though, was still like they were number one in the country for

Speaker 3 one season. Yeah, and they were like actually killing teams.
I just don't know if that can ever translate when you play against an Alabama or Georgia.

Speaker 3 Like, if Georgia plays Iowa right now, I don't know if I, I don't.

Speaker 5 They wouldn't score.

Speaker 3 They would score because they'd probably get a pick six, because they always do.

Speaker 3 But it wouldn't be more than seven to ten points.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Iowa also, it's unfair to compare them to UVA because UVA basketball doesn't really mean anywhere in the universe of, like, when you compare UVA to Charlottesville or UVA to Virginia compared with Iowa football to Iowa, the state of Iowa, like that's it's night and day.

Speaker 5 So like I, the tradition of football, college football in Iowa is way, way bigger than the college basketball tradition is in Virginia.

Speaker 3 And you know what, Penn State, like they, they're still a good team. That was unfortunate because I do think they win that game if they don't lose their starting quarterback, Sean Clifford.

Speaker 3 Because there's times when you could say, oh, we lost a starting quarterback. We would have won the game if that didn't happen.
And you can be like, no, man, Iowa is going to steamroll you anyway.

Speaker 3 Eventually, they were going to get it going. That one, you can definitely point to the quarterback, considering the fact they had missed snaps, like false starts,

Speaker 3 passes that were just to no one.

Speaker 3 But guess what? Don't apologize, Iowa. Don't apologize.
Do not apologize because this seems like a dream season in the making. Do not apologize.

Speaker 3 I also am going to try to get a bet on the Barcelona Sportsbook app, Total Punts, between Iowa and Wisconsin when they play in two weeks.

Speaker 5 I love it. You know what?

Speaker 5 I don't know if you can set that line high enough. Can we do a bet like how they do the prop for the national anthem, how long it's going to be, how long the wave to the kids is.

Speaker 5 I love the wave to the kids in the children's hospital that overlooks the field in Iowa. I actually, like, I'm going to admit it.
I pulled a Dan Campbell on Saturday. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I cried.

Speaker 5 I teared up. It was.
You cried? I did. It's a beautiful thing.
You're drunk. It's a beautiful thing.
I was buzzed.

Speaker 3 It's a beautiful.

Speaker 5 I mean, I just, come on, I just.

Speaker 3 Tony Soprano watched the commercials.

Speaker 5 I had watched the Red River. I almost said the S-word.
Nope.

Speaker 5 The Red River

Speaker 3 rivalry. Yep.

Speaker 5 And so, yeah, I was a little bit buzzed, but a little bit buzzed off football, too.

Speaker 5 It makes you feel all the emotions. You're happy and you're sad at the same time, but then you're happy again.
It's just a nice thing. I like Iowa football a lot, especially this year.

Speaker 5 I hope Iowa gets into the playoff picture.

Speaker 3 Well, Well, they're in the playoff picture.

Speaker 5 I'm saying like at the end of the season. I hope

Speaker 3 they have a one game that they got to win. The rest of their schedule,

Speaker 3 they are favored in the rest of their schedule. I do think

Speaker 3 at Wisconsin will be like they can't have a bad game, and at Nebraska, they can't have a bad game.

Speaker 3 Those are the two teams where they're better than the opponent, but if they have a bad day, I could see Wisconsin winning if they have a bad day in Nebraska.

Speaker 5 Have we got an update on the quarterback for Penn State?

Speaker 3 I do not know. I do not know.

Speaker 5 It was one of those weird injuries where you couldn't really tell exactly what part of his body was broken afterwards.

Speaker 3 And Penn State still has everything in front of them.

Speaker 3 They win. And the best part about the Big Ten this year is there's a five-week stretch where all those teams from the East play each other.
So

Speaker 3 it starts with Penn State plays at Ohio State the same weekend Michigan plays Michigan State. Then they rotate, and it ends with Penn State at Michigan State and Ohio State at Michigan.

Speaker 3 So it will all get figured out. We also had Alabama obviously lose the biggest story of the day.

Speaker 3 That was so 80 straight wins as double-digit favorites under Sabin. Obviously, everyone saw the stat 24-0 against former assistants.
And then the other crazy stat was

Speaker 3 Alabama had won 100 straight

Speaker 3 games against unranked opponents, dating all the way back to Nick Sabin's first year when they lost the University of Louisiana Monroe.

Speaker 5 And one of his former disciples finally beat him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, 24-0.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so it was 24-0, now it's 24-0.

Speaker 5 24-1. Jimbo Fisher's the one.
And then then he said before the season that he predicted it.

Speaker 5 Although, how many times has a coach predicted, like, this is the year that I'm going to beat Nick Saban, and then it doesn't happen?

Speaker 3 It's perfect because this is just enough for Jimbo to get the LSU job.

Speaker 5 Or an extension, again.

Speaker 3 Yeah, one or the other. Get another extension.
Well, use one for the other, you know what I mean? Yeah. One will.

Speaker 3 He'll either flirt with LSU and get that extension or he'll flirt with the extension to get the LSU.

Speaker 5 I think we all learned a very valuable lesson this week, and that's just don't talk about how weird a place Texas AM is because then they swarm like hornets.

Speaker 5 We all know that Texas AM is a very unusual place. It's like a cult in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 5 It's very strange. Very strange.
And that viral of the yell leader, or the viral video of the yell leaders went around, and so everybody was roasting Texas AM going into this game.

Speaker 5 They circled the wagons on us big time. So let's all just agree to not talk about

Speaker 5 how weird of a place Texas AM is.

Speaker 3 I'd agree. I'd agree.

Speaker 3 Was a crazy, crazy night. Zach Calzada, Calzada, the Cuban missile, which I love that nickname.

Speaker 7 The video of the kickers family reacting.

Speaker 3 Awesome.

Speaker 3 Awesome. That was great.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, Michigan obviously beat Nebraska, which was a big win because it felt like Jim Harbaugh needed one of those big road night big 10 games.

Speaker 3 Michigan might be real.

Speaker 3 Houston's starting to roll. Actually, that would be my last point.
So, Houston, if you're Cincinnati in our Kirk Herb Street bet, which is a reminder, I actually still like our side.

Speaker 3 I do.

Speaker 5 I started to get a little bit nervous for the first time.

Speaker 3 But remember what the details are.

Speaker 3 It has to be Cincinnati will get into the college football playoff over a one-loss power five team.

Speaker 3 So, one loss.

Speaker 3 It can't be two losses. Two losses, it's void.

Speaker 5 Okay, so let's.

Speaker 10 Basically, just Bama, Ohio State, or Penn State at this point.

Speaker 3 Well, no, or if Georgia loses one. Yeah, right now.
Right now. If Bama beats Georgia in the SEC championship game, guess what? They're both going in.

Speaker 3 And if Georgia beats Bama, they're probably both still going in.

Speaker 5 What about Michigan?

Speaker 3 Michigan, Oklahoma, Oregon.

Speaker 3 Hank, I don't know if it's a family.

Speaker 3 This is how it works, though. It's all rigged for the power fives.
If Georgia beats Alabama in a SEC championship game that goes down to the wire, and Georgia's undefeated, and Alabama has two losses,

Speaker 3 I would feel a lot more confident on my side than Cincinnati's.

Speaker 5 What about, okay, let's fast forward a couple weeks here. Cincinnati,

Speaker 3 if they stay undefeated at this point, their biggest test for SMU and at Navy. Okay, so.
And then Houston in the AAC championship game if Houston keeps winning.

Speaker 5 Okay, so they're going to stay undefeated. I actually think that Oklahoma, I think that they're frauds, but in...

Speaker 5 Maybe they might be the best frauds of all time. They might just continue to win these games that they should lose.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 they're frauds, but Kale Williams might fix it all. They do have a tough road because they have to go to at Baylor and at Oklahoma State.

Speaker 5 Bedlam is going to be sick this year.

Speaker 3 Actually, going to suck, but yes. Why? Oklahoma State is all defense now.

Speaker 5 They don't have any offense. Bedlam, weird shit happens.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but

Speaker 3 it's not a traditional Oklahoma State team. Weird shit happens.

Speaker 5 It's actually very good. Weird shit happens in Stillwater at night.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it's not going to be like a

Speaker 3 back and forth points everywhere.

Speaker 5 I would still rather have our side in this bet,

Speaker 5 but I'm starting to get a little bit nervous.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 don't confuse it. I think it's bullshit.
I think Cincinnati, if they go undefeated, should be in. That's not the bet.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that Cincinnati isn't deserving. They are absolutely deserving.
I just know how the college football playoff works and the bias that happens.

Speaker 3 Billy.

Speaker 5 Who can Georgia lose to, you think?

Speaker 3 Will they play Kentucky this weekend?

Speaker 3 If that's the game. If Kentucky beats them, then

Speaker 3 if Kentucky beats them, Kentucky will go to the SEC championship game.

Speaker 5 And then if Kentucky beats Alabama in the SEC championship, then Alabama and Kentucky are getting

Speaker 5 it.

Speaker 3 Florida in two weeks against Jacksonville, but it's Georgia is the one sure thing right now. And of course, that means it probably won't happen.

Speaker 3 But they are the one sure thing if you're looking across the whole landscape.

Speaker 3 All right. Should we do some hot seat cool throwing? You got something else, Billy?

Speaker 5 You got someone else? I'm just trying to think of any situation where Coastal gets involved.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no. I just realized Georgia's only given up 33 points.
They've given up

Speaker 3 one touchdown, one offensive touchdown against a first-team offense. They gave up a touchdown to South Carolina

Speaker 3 in garbage time.

Speaker 5 This never happens.

Speaker 3 33 points. Again, I think that I want to see them play against an explosive offense, but they're obviously incredible.

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Speaker 3 Hank.

Speaker 7 My hot seat is Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 Oh, yes.

Speaker 7 Talk about Sunday scaries.

Speaker 3 Oh, yes.

Speaker 7 I would say that that doesn't even begin to describe what's going on with Ben Simmons. He tried to hold out.
He tried to force his way out of Philadelphia. Said he's not coming back.

Speaker 7 You know, got Rich Paul on the case.

Speaker 5 Rich Paul is just such a cool name for an agent.

Speaker 7 Didn't do anything. They said they were in negotiations, yada, yada, yada.
And then yesterday,

Speaker 7 Wodes reported that Sixers has arrived.

Speaker 7 Sixers all-star Ben Simmons has arrived in Philadelphia, took a COVID-19 test as required by NBA protocol, source to LESBN, meaning he's ready to come back, start playing preseason games and stuff.

Speaker 3 Awkward.

Speaker 7 Later on, Wodes reported again that the Sixers were unaware Simmons was flying into Philly today.

Speaker 7 The organization was in constant contact with Rich Paul, but Simmons simply showed up at the arena to take his COVID test prior to the Sixers' next tip, and that's when team officials knew he was in town.

Speaker 5 So he went rogue, even though his agent, he was also talking to his agent, decided it was time to come back.

Speaker 5 Turns out the strategy of being like a team's least valuable player and also its most high-paid player and threatening to withhold your services isn't exactly the leverage that he thought it would be.

Speaker 3 It's incredible.

Speaker 3 It just, I mean, it doesn't, someone should just sit Ben Simmons down and be like, dude, when everyone else holds out or demands a trade, that's because they're really, really good and everyone's really, really bad around them.

Speaker 3 This is the opposite.

Speaker 3 You're the bad one.

Speaker 5 I think his strategy was just that he's seen other players hold out before and he was like, I want to do that. Right.

Speaker 5 Either that or maybe it was just this strategy is so dumb and unusual and totally backwards that maybe it'll confuse them.

Speaker 3 Someone will just be like, okay, fine.

Speaker 5 It's the duck season, rabbit season with Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny. Yes.
That's what he was trying to pull. Backfired on him big time.
Big time.

Speaker 7 I love going to

Speaker 7 a good boo fest, like when the Patriots win the Super Bowl and Goodell comes to give the trophies.

Speaker 7 Well, going to the Sixers' first game, I might have to figure out, talk to Tick Pic and get out there.

Speaker 3 But Philly fans won't boo him.

Speaker 5 They'll be booing Hank.

Speaker 3 It's going to be so perfect that it's Philly. It's going to be.
Because, like, if this had happened in Miami, no offense, Jake.

Speaker 3 Or, I don't know, Phoenix, no offense, Phoenix, Sacramento, probably would have been like, you know what? This guy's good.

Speaker 3 He's better than

Speaker 3 what we usually have. So let's welcome him back.
Philly, Philly's going to roast him.

Speaker 5 Because they had to defend him.

Speaker 7 Yes. And then once he was like, I'm out, they're like, all right, you know what? Fuck you, Ben Simmons.
Fuck you.

Speaker 7 And then now it's like the classic thing where it's like your girlfriend's dating a girl for a long time. You don't like her.
They break up, and you're like, Yeah, she was a total bitch.

Speaker 7 And then, like, two weeks later, he's like, Yeah, we're back together.

Speaker 3 And you have to be like,

Speaker 3 I always like that's great, yeah, good for you, happy for you guys.

Speaker 5 Heck, do you think that you're more popular in Philadelphia than Ben Simmons is?

Speaker 3 Like ability rating, yeah, QCA comparison, absolutely,

Speaker 3 yeah, yes.

Speaker 5 Do you think he's getting bad? Like, are his DMs worse than your DMs from Philly people?

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. You should be the right thing to do would be for you to be able to.

Speaker 7 I think I'm gonna show up in a Ben Simmons. Yeah, I know, yeah.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 be a human shield for him uh and your cool throne

Speaker 7 uh my cool throne is these uh part of my take flags okay cool you guys seen these yeah those are real nice hear about these what about the hats are the hats out uh the hats i don't know if they're out these hats are one of the best hats we've made we have a bunch of them big hats went on a different one uh we have some goldfish hats some sick merch though the flags are definitely going to be on sale when you're listening to this uh we've got a bunch of different colors so you know tailgate man cave put it on your car hang it in your front yard Don't put it on your windshield of your car.

Speaker 7 Don't put it on your windshield, but maybe, you know, who knows?

Speaker 3 Maybe on the back. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know what those flags look sick? When you put them, like, on a balcony

Speaker 5 outside your house. Yeah.
Upstairs balcony. You drape the flag over, especially if you have like

Speaker 5 if you got a cabin or a beach house.

Speaker 7 If you want a pull chick just like right above your bed.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 7 And then you walk, girl walks in.

Speaker 3 Say less. Yes.
Can you make.

Speaker 7 That's what she says when she walks in. Can you make a girl a part of my take? Oh, Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 Say less.

Speaker 5 Can you make a reflective flag, like make a mirror out of a flag?

Speaker 3 That would be sick. Oh, they're saying a mirror

Speaker 3 of your bed? Yeah, yeah. With a flag.

Speaker 5 Because he's getting freaky.

Speaker 3 I'm just, well, I'm trying to get freaky.

Speaker 5 It's kind of like Big Cat's gift shirt idea. Does the material exist to turn a flag into also a mirror? Think about it.
Science, get back to me.

Speaker 3 It would be funny if you bring a chick back and the flag's there. And they're like, do you think Billy's podcasting voice sucks too? Like, that's the conversation.

Speaker 3 That person really hurt Billy's feelings. He's been down and out since then.
Well, actually, no, that was more the Dave and Busters video that's coming out.

Speaker 5 That's what put him in power. Didn't they like my voice?

Speaker 3 Oh, they did, did they? It was me. Oh, they didn't like me.
Hank, yeah. So you've been more down and out about the Dave and Busters thing that's coming out.
It's weird.

Speaker 3 Jake just beats you on everything.

Speaker 5 Billy, before we started taping, was suggesting that maybe we have him and Jake do some more competitions.

Speaker 3 He's already angling through rematches. I hope we never put out this video just so I can keep referencing it.

Speaker 3 It was a fun time.

Speaker 3 You almost killed yourself jumping out of a cap.

Speaker 3 Okay. It was a stunt.

Speaker 3 Just practice. Drop and roll.

Speaker 5 I want to be a stunt man.

Speaker 3 PFD, your hot seat, cool thrown?

Speaker 5 Yeah, my hot seat is the Houston Astros.

Speaker 5 The Astros are back on the hot seat because you'll never guess this, big cap, but they're being accused of cheating in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 But Dusty Baker is now in charge. So Dusty Baker is not going to sit idly by and let Tony LaRussa declare him a cheater.
Correct.

Speaker 5 He said these are heavy accusations when you make these about the Houston Astros.

Speaker 5 And if you look at the stats, he says that the White Sox have the same runs, OPS, and everything as we have. Well, actually,

Speaker 5 we're better on the road than we are at home. And I think they're actually better at home than they are on the road.

Speaker 5 So Dusty pulled an old-school move, which is just flipping it on him and being like, you're saying we're cheating? Actually, you're cheating. You're the cheaters.
You're the one who's cheating.

Speaker 5 And before I came to the ballpark, I was listening to Eric Clapton, and he had a song, Before You Accuse Me, Take a Look at Yourself. You know what I mean? That's all I got to say.

Speaker 5 I doubt that Dusty was actually listening to Eric Clapton that morning.

Speaker 5 It's more of a rhetorical device to be like, instead of me saying it, I'll invoke the name of someone more famous who has said it. Eric Clapton.
Eric Clapton in this case.

Speaker 5 And so he's pointing all the fingers back at Tony LaRusso.

Speaker 5 So this is just leading us closer and closer to hopefully an on-field incident between Dusty Baker and Tony LaRusso, where they duke it out like men.

Speaker 3 Eric Clapton, John Gruden's favorite guitarist. Fact.
Yes.

Speaker 3 What's that, Billy?

Speaker 5 John Gruden also likes black flags.

Speaker 5 No quarters.

Speaker 5 Did you mean to put the L in that last word?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Okay. Oh.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 I'm actually very confused right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You walked yourself into that one.

Speaker 3 Listen to this back. Yeah, you're going to write it.
You're going to get it on the table. Do a transition.
It's going to suck when you figure it out.

Speaker 3 Fuck. Okay.

Speaker 5 My cool throne is being golf tough.

Speaker 5 Being golf tough is on the cool throne.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 5 Because JR Smith, everyone's favorite collegiate golfer, was competing in an event today, and he stepped on a beehive while he was playing. The bees attacked him.
They swarmed him.

Speaker 5 He got stung all over his legs.

Speaker 5 There were yellow jackets, allegedly.

Speaker 5 But Jerus Smith is golf tough, and he continued his round, had a couple, I think, maybe a birdie, a lot of pars, a couple bogeys mixing in, but still was able to compete and finish.

Speaker 5 It could have been a tragedy, but J.R. Smith, fortunately, is an all-round great athlete.
So, golfers, congrats. You are tough.
You are tough now that J.R. Smith is one of you.

Speaker 7 Golf hardos on the internet are probably the biggest group of hardos, and there's people being like, oh, J.R. Smith sucks because he was like 18-over.
And it's like he is playing D1 golf.

Speaker 3 And it's his

Speaker 3 never before.

Speaker 7 He's playing, yeah, for like, he's taking it serious for the first first time, like, ever.

Speaker 5 And he got stung by bees.

Speaker 3 Wait, he showed a 90?

Speaker 3 That's incredible.

Speaker 10 That's really good for like Hank and I, but, like, I feel like D1 golfers.

Speaker 3 Oh, you're a golf Ardo. What do you mean? Yeah, you just did that.
You just did what Hank was saying.

Speaker 7 I think it was like 83, 78 in, like, his first two rounds, but it was like

Speaker 3 18 over the course. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's incredible. It's good golf scores.
I'll take a 90. Yeah, but you're saying that that's terrible for me.

Speaker 7 It wasn't a 90.

Speaker 3 It was better than a 90. It was better.
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 5 I think Hank just invented the 90.

Speaker 3 Because I'm pretty sure that. Oh, I said 90.
Well, he said 18 over. So I said 90.
18 over the four tournaments. Two tournaments.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah. So he shot in the 70s and then he shot in the 80s.
Got it. And he got stung by the bee.

Speaker 3 The 90s is incredible. I can't.
I would kill for a 90.

Speaker 5 If I get stung by bees, I go home and lay down for the rest of the day. Bees are the worst.

Speaker 5 Go to the hospital. If you got stung by bees.
Are you allergic, Jake?

Speaker 9 Yes. Not that I know of.

Speaker 3 Have you never been stung? 100% allergic.

Speaker 3 I think I've gotten

Speaker 3 stung by one before.

Speaker 5 You definitely haven't gotten stung if you still think it's like got bit by a bee.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 Doesn't smoke make bees docile, though?

Speaker 3 I think so. JR Smith.
Just smoke him out.

Speaker 5 Hey, bees, you want the pipe?

Speaker 3 Yep. No, that was a different pipe.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Not the smoking pipe.

Speaker 3 Hank, are you looking it up?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was 83 and then a 78. I don't know what he shot today.

Speaker 7 But that's 12 over and 7 over.

Speaker 3 Got it.

Speaker 3 Pretty good. Yeah, I would.
I would take the 90s.

Speaker 7 Those are really good scores, and there's golf hardeners being like, J.R. Smith shouldn't even be out there competing.
He's only competing because of his name.

Speaker 5 No, I'm rooting for Jr. Smith.

Speaker 3 All right, my hot seat is all of us because we're living in a complete simulation.

Speaker 3 If you have missed anything, our colleague, White Sox Dave, friend of mine for a very long time, die-hard White Sox fan.

Speaker 3 He's basically owned outside of John Gruden, owned the internet the last couple days because he went up to John Cusack outside of the White Sox game three

Speaker 3 and accused John Cusack of rooting for both the Cubs and the White Sox, which he does, which is bullshit. White Sox Dave then.

Speaker 7 And this was something that, so this is something that White Sox Dave had been saying online.

Speaker 3 He's got a banned list.

Speaker 7 So when he saw John Cusack, he took the opportunity to go tell him what he's been saying online for a long time.

Speaker 3 And the story, too, is John Cusack, like, he will call up and ask for the best possible tickets whenever either team is in the playoffs. And it's like, that's, you know, you can't do that.

Speaker 5 I agree with this premise, by the way.

Speaker 5 If you are a die-hard fan of of one team from your hometown, you can't be a die-hard fan of the equal and opposite team from that hometown.

Speaker 3 Right, you don't see Mets Yankees fans walking around. That just doesn't exist.
What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 5 You can kind of root for the Giants if you're a Jet fan.

Speaker 3 No, you can't. No, no.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 if it's an out-of-league game. No, I don't know.
But when the Giants were playing the Washington football team, I could kind of be like, okay, I'll root for the Giants.

Speaker 3 But even that is like

Speaker 3 a game.

Speaker 3 That's not being a fan.

Speaker 3 I have a game-to-game switch switch that i put on like if i'm watching a team on national television even before i started gambling on football i'd be watching a game i'd be like yeah you know what i hope the cardinals win this game right you know just because like you develop mini crushes on teams right the um perfect example saturday night if you're uh vol don't listen to the next thing i'm about to say saturday night vol for life because i i won two national championships at tennessee oh that's awesome yeah i'll be thanks payton i'll be wearing a tennessee sweatshirt i'm not a tennessee fan like i'm not it doesn't, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, I'm not walking away from it being like, win or lose. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 3 You want certain teams to win that game. But you don't, but it doesn't affect me.
Like, if Wisconsin plays Tennessee, there's not a question.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if you're John Cusack and you grew up in Chicago, he grew up in Chicago, right? So he grew up, like, I don't know, like, like, bleeding the Sears Tower and nutting mustard.

Speaker 5 He's a guy that should only be able to pick one of those two teams. Correct.

Speaker 3 Correct. And he picked both.

Speaker 7 And then after the interaction, so the video went viral, or like viral-ish in the Barcelona world, but it actually kind of took on a life of its own.

Speaker 7 John Cusack, after the game, which the White Sox won,

Speaker 3 this was after we recorded.

Speaker 7 So I was keeping up on this as I was editing, and John Cusack probably sent, I don't know, 40 tweets just going at White Sox Dave.

Speaker 3 24 hours of just tweeting nonsense.

Speaker 7 Yeah, just like, just... He was heated.
There was people taking his side, people against him, and he was just replying to them all, calling, what do you call White Sox Dave, a foul little boy?

Speaker 3 A foul little boy. His insults for White Sox Dave are like on bringing and just so funny.
He also used phrase.

Speaker 3 he said he had like shitty breath he also used the phrase self-phone yeah which really confused everything you know yeah it wasn't cell phone it was and it wasn't self-owned it was self-phone phone

Speaker 3 i was gonna say me and hank as both bad grammar guys i couldn't read like half of his tweets he's like the way that he types is unbelievable and i love high fidelity as a movie so i just want to say that separate the art from the artist

Speaker 7 art fuck him the artist or sorry the artist fuck him the art great another thing where it's like the people people on on the internet are just way too harsh.

Speaker 7 There's people being like, John Cusack's a nobody hasn't been a good actor.

Speaker 3 He's in awesome movies. Like,

Speaker 7 if you fancied yourself an actor and you had his career, like, you had a successful career.

Speaker 5 I'll put it this way: the man was in Con Air.

Speaker 3 Right, yes.

Speaker 5 Best movie ever made. Yes.

Speaker 3 So, anyway, all of us, we're all in a simulation because not only is John Cusack fighting with White Sox Dave, now Edward Snowden has chimed in, and I'm scared for all of our lives.

Speaker 3 And the whole thing is just so hilariously barstool and ridiculous.

Speaker 3 Like, there's people who are actually mad at White Sox Dave and saying that we're, you know, he's a mouth breather and all this shit. It's like, dude, it's a banned list.

Speaker 3 Vanna White is on the list because they had an insult question on Wheel of Fortune. Vanna White doesn't make the questions.
He put Vanna White. He has the weather on there.

Speaker 3 He bans someone both in this life and the afterlife.

Speaker 3 If you read that list and you think it's real, like you think it's actually like this guy's actually telling people they can't root for the White Sox, your fucking, your brain is rotted.

Speaker 3 Well, also, I guess John Cusack is in that case.

Speaker 5 Domino's Pizza.

Speaker 3 Domino's Pizza.

Speaker 5 But in the case of John Cusack, I.

Speaker 7 So they didn't deliver a pizza to a girl that White Sox Dave, like that's what the list is for.

Speaker 5 In the case of John Cusack, I actually think that White Sox Dave is trying to say you're not allowed to root for both teams, which I agree with, by the way.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 But yeah.

Speaker 3 But it's also, like, John Cusack also knew who White Sox Dave was. You could see it when he walked up and was like, you're on my band list.
He knew. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 He knew right away. John Cusack, I think he spends a lot of time online.
A lot. I was blocked by John Cusack when I looked on Sunday night.
Wow.

Speaker 5 I think that he blocked everybody that White Sox Dave follows. Interesting.

Speaker 7 I still got access.

Speaker 7 He also tagged the tag teaming, like the fact that it was him and Patricia Arquette.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's incredible.

Speaker 3 The whole thing makes no sense, and it's absurd, and it's fantastic.

Speaker 5 I tried to correct Patricia Arquette's grammar because she used the wrong your, which is a big pet peeve of mine. Right.

Speaker 5 And so I replied to her, and then she wrote back, yes, thank you for pointing that out. Dyslexia is in my bio.

Speaker 3 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Tried to dyslexia. You got ableists.
She tried to dyslexia, Shami.

Speaker 5 I felt bad for a second. I clicked on her bio.
She doesn't have dyslexic in her bio.

Speaker 3 She rickrolled you. She did.
Well, you can't.

Speaker 5 I think that she's appropriating dyslexic culture by telling people she's dyslexic when the rules clearly state that you have to say that you're dyslexic in your bio.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 7 I saw a tweet Big Had. Do you know if he really going on Rogan?

Speaker 3 Who? White Socks Dave? No. All right.
That's what I'll

Speaker 3 Carl said. I don't listen.

Speaker 7 You're talking about how we're living in a simulation.

Speaker 7 I didn't believe it, but also when I saw it, I had to

Speaker 7 weigh out the options. They're talking about once Edward Snowden gets involved.

Speaker 3 That's true.

Speaker 3 Rogan becomes a lot more believable. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 5 I'm on whatever side Edward Snowden's on. Yeah,

Speaker 3 you're actually right that that then does change it a little bit. But

Speaker 3 no,

Speaker 3 that would really be the end of times.

Speaker 3 White

Speaker 3 Interviewed on Joe Rogan. All right, my cool throne is Brian Laundry for now, because Dog has an injured ankle.

Speaker 5 Just one or both sprained?

Speaker 3 Maybe both. Very, very severe sprain, almost a break.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 5 I'll just put him on my hot seat.

Speaker 3 Oh, who? Dog. No, no, Brian Laundrie is

Speaker 3 rarely cool. It's all how you frame the story.

Speaker 5 Nah, dude.

Speaker 3 What do you mean?

Speaker 5 I think that was kind of chicken shit.

Speaker 3 Okay. Really? Cut his mic.
Jake, what's your hot seat, cool throne?

Speaker 10 My hot seat is Chipper Jones.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 10 He's sitting behind the plate in the Braves Brewers game and just dropped a foul ball.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 10 past his prime, I guess. Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 10 And then my cool throne.

Speaker 5 I like the Braves, by the way.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think I'm rooting. I have a little crush on the Braves.
Got it. This postseason.

Speaker 3 I'm just still rooting for Chris Bryant, Kyle Schwarber, and Jock Peterson's back. My cool Tober

Speaker 10 is Zach Hampel.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 10 You guys call him foul ball guy, but last night he is home run guy.

Speaker 3 Double. Two home runs caught in the game.

Speaker 10 He tweeted out the stat. The seventh time he snagged two or more home run balls during one MLB game.
He got three once in 2018. Fenway is the 18th different stadium in which he's gotten a home run.

Speaker 7 Also first postseason ball he's ever caught.

Speaker 3 Oh, was it? Yeah.

Speaker 5 So did Zach tweet that out? Two of them.

Speaker 3 He did, yeah.

Speaker 5 Okay, yeah. I was about to say, a lot of people would be like, hey, Zach, that's not a real stat.
You're just making this up. You could say anything.
No, no.

Speaker 5 When it's Zach Hample and the meticulous records that he keeps of his foul balls the real numbers he those are the official he's basically Elias Sports Bureau for people that have caught balls at major league baseball I love how he wears the neon too so you know it's him oh that's a coincidence let's do that for the attention the rays home run was hit directly at him he didn't have to move yesterday yeah yeah yeah yeah right so it was crazy and then the other one the red socks you just saw him moving with the neon yeah across the screen so good for him yeah good for him uh billy would you like to try again

Speaker 5 you have weird allegiances

Speaker 3 You think that, what, justice, the law, is a weird allegiance?

Speaker 3 Never mind. What? We won't talk about that anymore.
No, what?

Speaker 5 My cool thing. Dog? Well, go ahead.

Speaker 5 I think it's kind of chicken shit. He pulled out.

Speaker 3 He got injured. He can barely walk.
He can walk. No.
There's pictures of him without. No, I saw that.
How do you know when those pictures are taken? You don't know.

Speaker 3 Look.

Speaker 5 I'm just saying, I think he just ran out of money searching.

Speaker 5 I saw a picture that looked like Saquon Barkley's ankle.

Speaker 3 Don't make me drop this bit, Billy, please.

Speaker 3 You know what Russillo's been texting me? He actually hates dog, and he was like, I think he's doing it all for clout. And I was like, no way, dude.

Speaker 3 How are people...

Speaker 3 I don't want to have to drop this, please. Okay.
Dog's going to find him.

Speaker 3 That's what he does. Dog hunts people?

Speaker 5 I actually think it's a possibility that Dog went down to Florida, found him. Yeah.
And then choked him out. Yeah.
Strangled him, put him in the swamp.

Speaker 3 No, in the garden. He's in the swamp.
No, no. No, no.

Speaker 3 No, listen. You put him in the swamp.
People think that Brian Laundrie's living in a bunker in his parents' garden. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Is that in Florida?

Speaker 3 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 5 Whatever happened, dog showed up, found the kid, choked him to death,

Speaker 5 sprained his ankle during the melee, zip-tied him. But dog got the best of him, threw him into the swamp.
He's Gator food now.

Speaker 5 Now Dog leaves town, and he's like, sorry, I got an am scray, got a little tweaked ankle. You know how it goes, bro.
And so everyone's like, yeah, we get it, dog.

Speaker 5 I guess you're kind of a pussy now. And meanwhile, dog doesn't even have to tell everybody, but he gets to live the rest of his life

Speaker 5 knowing that justice has been served.

Speaker 3 He took the handkerchief off of Brian Laundrie's body, and he sniffs it every now and then just to get that high of killing a man. Yep.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 3 don't make us drop.

Speaker 5 I got really excited.

Speaker 5 If he goes back,

Speaker 3 oh, he'll be back, bro.

Speaker 5 If he goes back, if he's just taking a break, he'll be back.

Speaker 3 But if he when his ankle gets better and it might take a few years, he'll be back. And guess what? If Brian Laundrie gets caught right now, it's because Dog smoked him out so that's an assist

Speaker 5 fact uh cool throw nepism zayer wade uh signed with the salt lake city stars who are his father's g league affiliate team oh nice that's quite a coincidence that's crazy that they scouted all those players and that dwayne wade son was the one yeah that's yeah come on no i but he's he's probably pretty good yeah he's nasty yeah yeah like he's gonna like you can't He's not going to nepotism his way to the NBA.

Speaker 3 That would be like saying Jack Collinsworth got his job because he's Chris Collinsworth's son, not because he's sick at his fucking job.

Speaker 7 That's not a physically act. Like, you don't have to physically perform every weekend.

Speaker 5 No, Jack Collinsworth is, like, one of the best five broadcasters in America. Right.

Speaker 3 That's just pure talent.

Speaker 5 Also, Cool Throne rule changes. Deuce Gruden got his job on pure talent, too.
Don't hear me?

Speaker 3 Well, he's a powerlifting channel. Don't you guys champion? I feel like this room is turning on me and PFT.
I don't like it.

Speaker 3 First you come from Dog, now you come for Deuce Gruden.

Speaker 5 Deuce is a powerlifting champion. He's bullshit.

Speaker 9 Belarus.

Speaker 5 If it wasn't for nepotism, we never would have caught Saddam Hussein.

Speaker 3 Fact.

Speaker 3 That is a fact.

Speaker 5 Nepotism contributes many great things. Jesus Christ was a great example of nepotism.
Oh, he just happened to be God's son. Oh, you think he became Savior based on his merits?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he actually did, and also nepotism.

Speaker 5 Okay, carry on.

Speaker 3 I'm good.

Speaker 5 You sure, bro?

Speaker 3 You want to go with Christ real quick? Maybe?

Speaker 5 I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Speaker 3 You want to go with Christ real quick?

Speaker 3 You go with Christ.

Speaker 5 So in the Atlantic League, they're putting in a new rule check. I just had a great idea, by the way,

Speaker 5 for an alternate broadcast to the Manningcast.

Speaker 5 It's Jay and John Gruden and Deuce. Oh.
And they're just watching Chappelle's show and laughing a little too hard at first.

Speaker 3 Laughing, yeah.

Speaker 7 Also, fuck ESPN. They're just pretending like he wasn't an employee there for like 10 years.

Speaker 3 That is true. That is true.

Speaker 7 I just want to throw that out there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 What, 2017?

Speaker 3 What happened?

Speaker 3 Any shows get cancelled?

Speaker 5 He was there in 2017. Yes.

Speaker 3 Yep. Just want to double-check that.

Speaker 3 Have you ever?

Speaker 3 Interesting. 2017.
Got it. Interesting.
He was there.

Speaker 3 All right. Let's get to our interview.
We've got Booger McFarland. We'll talk some more football PFT before we do that.

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Speaker 5 Now, here is Booger McFarland.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest. It is Booger McFarland talking a little ball, college football, and NFL.

Speaker 3 Booger, always great to have you on. I wanted to start, though, with a question.

Speaker 3 I saw, we were watching Monday Night Football, Colts versus Ravens. Can you talk me through the green suit that you wore? Because

Speaker 3 it was an interesting suit. So

Speaker 3 you pulled that off, but it was an interesting suit.

Speaker 12 Well, first and foremost, let's define interesting. I've never known you to mention a word, so go ahead and say what you really want to say.

Speaker 3 It was somewhere between a Masters champion and also the guy who valets the cars at Augusta. I couldn't figure out which one.

Speaker 12 Well, I prefer Masters Champion, but I only want to get that when I actually win the Masters. And since I'm a golfer,

Speaker 12 that is sacred, and that is a very hollow statement. So I appreciate that you would even go there.

Speaker 12 Never ever confuse me with a valet driver of any sort, whether it is one that's wearing a black jacket or a green jacket.

Speaker 12 I wouldn't expect you to know fashion.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 12 So last night was really about fashion and about me being able to make a statement. Sure, I could continue to wear your normal gray, black, brown suit.
But listen, who wants to watch that?

Speaker 12 Who wants to look on the screen and see a nice-looking brother in a suit that just blends into the set? Sometimes you try to make a fashion statement and let America know that, guess what?

Speaker 12 Books had a little fashion too. I've graduated from the guy that used to wear 34 Huskies in the fifth grade.
Okay. So things are a little different now.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.
So that's fair. I mean, I like the bold choice because you know what? I'm talking about it right now.
It was a memorable thing.

Speaker 3 When they went to halftime, I was like, whoa,

Speaker 3 Booger went for it. He went for it.
Booger can pull it off.

Speaker 5 I would like to see Adam Schefter show up in like an orange suit one time. You think he even has that in his closet? You think he's got anything?

Speaker 5 He probably just has one suit and it's the same suit, just like 10 different pairs of it.

Speaker 12 I would agree. I think Schefter probably has 54 blue and black suits and he just kind of mixes them up.
And when he wants to spice it up, he goes with a little gray.

Speaker 5 Yeah, sometimes like a funky red tie. Yes.

Speaker 3 My tie has

Speaker 3 a stripe on it.

Speaker 12 Yes. Allow the tie to accentuate everything.
Tie in the pocket square.

Speaker 3 Yeah. All right.
So let's talk NFL first, and we'll do some college football.

Speaker 3 The big story coming out of week five in terms of teams here, are the Kansas City Chiefs broken, and what's your level of concern on how bad they are at defense, and can they put this back together?

Speaker 12 Are they broken? Yes, they're broken right now. Is it fixable? Yes.
Is it going to take a while? Absolutely. So let's kind of break that down a little bit.
I think the quarterback's not playing well.

Speaker 12 And we can make excuses for the reasons why. But the bottom line is, you know, he's a half a billion dollar quarterback who's not taking care of the football.

Speaker 12 He's already thrown as many interceptions this year as he did all of last year. So I think he's got to take care and value the ball a little bit better.

Speaker 12 I think he's become a little bit enamored with some of the magical things that we've seen him do, i.e., the no-look passes, leaving the pocket, thrown off of one foot.

Speaker 12 Sometimes the simplest thing to do is just to look at the guy and throw it to him.

Speaker 12 And I think Patrick Mahomes, and he'll tell you himself, he's fallen victim to the da-na-da, da-da-da, that type of play. And so he's got to to get back to just playing good, solid football.

Speaker 12 Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, those guys are two of the best at their position. I think they'll be fine.
They put a lot of money in this offensive line. The offensive line will be really, really cool.

Speaker 12 I think they'll be fine. Their defense is absolutely poo-poo.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, okay. Yeah, let me ask you a quick follow-up on their defense because I should have said this to begin with.
I'm always.

Speaker 12 That's a bad job of interviewing by you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no.

Speaker 12 You should have asked one question and then set up the next question.

Speaker 3 Well, no, here's, no, that's not why I did that because I respect you, Booger. I know you can hold two thoughts in your head at the same time.
So that was a good initial question.

Speaker 3 It didn't go in enough detail in this respect. You were part of a defense, the 2006 Indianapolis Colts.
Unfortunately, they beat my Bears in the Super Bowl, but you were part of a defense

Speaker 3 all regular season was bad. You guys were not a good defense.
And then you, towards the end of the season, figured it out, put it together, played good enough defense to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 Is that something that can be replicated? Or is it like that was a once in a million, you know, the defense was just, it needed everything to get better and then it got better all of a sudden?

Speaker 3 Or can like, can the Chiefs do that? I don't think they can, but can they? Someone who's actually seen it firsthand, a team kind of flip the switch defensively.

Speaker 12 Well, I give them a better opportunity than we did. So we didn't really change a lot.
Once I got traded to Indianapolis, that was kind of the personnel that we had, and we just had to get better.

Speaker 12 You know, people would often ask Tony Dungy, hey, what are you going to do to fix the defense? And he said, he simply said, hey, nothing. Guys got to do their job.
Like, we're professionals.

Speaker 12 Guys got to go out and actually do their job better. And, you know, thankful for the people in Indianapolis, we did that.

Speaker 12 Defensive football, big cat, is not necessarily about X's and O's. Playing defense is about hustle, it's about effort, and it's about hitting people.

Speaker 12 Like, as long as 11 people are doing that, we can stop people. It really doesn't matter from a scheme standpoint, having a great scheme.
It's about relentless effort and flying to the ball.

Speaker 12 Prime example, look at the Cowboys. What's really different with the Cowboys this year other than Micah Parsons? It's the same dudes.
Like it's the same guys.

Speaker 12 You change the coordinator, and all Dan Quinn has done is really simple. Hey, guys, we're going to play with relentless effort.
Okay. Run to the ball.

Speaker 12 hit somebody, make something happen, and play to the whistle. I.e., let's everybody do their job.
Now, you bring it back to to the Chiefs.

Speaker 12 I think they can do it and do it at a higher level because if you look at the other night, Chris Jones in play, Frank Clark is coming off of an injury.

Speaker 12 They're missing, I think it's Trevarius Ward, one of their corners. So all their pieces are not there yet.

Speaker 12 And so when all their pieces get back, Spagnolo is always going to be a risk taker on defense. So they're never going to be the Baltimore Ravens or the Buccaneers.

Speaker 12 They're going to be a team that gives up some plays, but they're going to make some also. The problem is right now they're not making any plays,

Speaker 12 you know, turnovers, pick sixes, sacks. They're not doing it.
Like they only have like six sacks on the year.

Speaker 12 That's terrible when you have two guys that are making $20 million up front in Frank Clark and Chris Jones. So I think they can get it done.
It's going to take a while.

Speaker 12 First and foremost, they got to get healthy. If they do that, I do think that they can make a run, but they are a bad football team right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, on the defensive side, it's interesting that Big Cap brought up that Colts team because they had a safety, Bob Sanders, right? That flipped that switch.

Speaker 5 He's similar to the Honey Badger in a lot of ways in that they're always around the football. I think Tyran Matthews, he's faster, I think, overall.

Speaker 5 He's better in coverage, but they still have that knack for getting to the football, causing a lot of fumbles, picking up a fumble, taking it back.

Speaker 5 There are elements that definitely match up with those two teams.

Speaker 5 And as far as Patrick Mahomes goes, I think what you're touching on, we've been saying this, we've kind of been squatting on this take for the last two years. He gets too cute with it sometimes.

Speaker 5 Sometimes,

Speaker 3 too cute.

Speaker 5 I love that saying that he gets too cute. And so he needs to just, you're saying he needs to just go back to fundamentals,

Speaker 5 lock in on a receiver, go through your progressions, just play quarterback like a normal way. And I actually think that the Chiefs will be fine by the end of the year.

Speaker 5 They'll manage to figure all this stuff out that we're talking about. And they'll probably end up as, you know, a three seed in the playoffs or something like that.

Speaker 5 I just think that he's too good to go the entire year committing all these turnovers and running these issues.

Speaker 12 Well, I completely agree. It's kind of like Big Cat.
You know, he goes on these diets sometimes, but he's like,

Speaker 12 his level of fat in his body is just too high for him to stay on it.

Speaker 3 Like it it never it will never last.

Speaker 12 At some point, he's gonna big cat and he's gonna continue to I don't know whether it's it's the donuts or it's the double cheeseburgers or what it is, but he can go on a diet for six days.

Speaker 12 That seventh day, he's gonna intake so many calories that his body is just gonna start rejecting some of them.

Speaker 5 Water always finds his level.

Speaker 3 You know what it is? There you go. There you go.
During a season, during a football season, when you played in the NFL, like your body gets banged up during the season. Guys go through injuries.

Speaker 3 You're hurt, not injured.

Speaker 3 During the football season, I am constantly, you know, battling week to week, trying to make it through the weeks.

Speaker 5 And sometimes, you know, it falls apart.

Speaker 3 That's, I'm no different than a guy who has two Super Bowl rings. We're the same, Booger.

Speaker 12 Oh, we, there's nothing about us except we both have two arms and two legs. That's the same.
Other than that, that is it, my friend.

Speaker 3 No, we're the same. We're the same.

Speaker 5 Booger, I have a question for you because I randomly, I got YouTube algorithms last week where they just force a video down my throat.

Speaker 5 And the one that popped up was the old Monday night football game of the Colts and the Bucs, the one where you were on the Bucs at the time, and the Colts got out to that, or the Colts had a massive deficit in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 I think it was the biggest fourth quarter comeback in the history of Monday night football.

Speaker 5 And it went to overtime. They had that missed field goal followed up by the doink that went in with Vanderjack.
You were on that field goal block team when they called, was it Simeon Rice for leaping?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I think so. Yep.

Speaker 5 Do you remember going back and watching?

Speaker 5 Do you know what the refs called in that game? Is that an actual penalty to jump in the air?

Speaker 12 No, I don't think the penalty, first of all,

Speaker 12 thanks for bringing that up. I had somehow forgotten about it.

Speaker 5 All-time bad defensive performance.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I wouldn't quite go that far.

Speaker 3 All-time choke job.

Speaker 12 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 I can think of a couple more. Well, okay, I'm not sure.
I've never choked that bad on Monday night football.

Speaker 12 Okay, hey, I get your point, all right? Yep.

Speaker 12 It's one of those calls, man, where I think when they called it in the moment, we were like, huh? What? Is that a penalty?

Speaker 12 And then when you go back and you open the rule book and you turn to page 179 and you look under dash four, there it is. Like, it's one of those rules.
Nobody ever knows. Nobody ever looks up.

Speaker 12 And it's very similar to the double punt the other night. Remember, I forget what game that was.
Was it Thursday night football where there was a double punt and nobody knew the rules? Yep.

Speaker 12 Very similar to that. Yeah,

Speaker 5 it was just kind of an embarrassing moment for you personally, I would have to imagine. Yes.

Speaker 3 How much were you guys up by?

Speaker 12 I think we were up 31.

Speaker 12 35 or 31. It was like 35-3, 31-3, something like that.
Wow.

Speaker 3 And you lost?

Speaker 12 Well, Peyton Manning was on the other side.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Can I talk quarterbacks real quick? So we got... Absolutely.
So

Speaker 3 let's take out Brady. Let's take out Mahomes, Rodgers, and say, Josh Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 Who's the quarterback you think is playing the best right this second that you take on your team?

Speaker 12 Justin Herbert.

Speaker 3 There it is.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I don't think it's close. And I said this the other day, guys, and you tell me if you guys

Speaker 12 buy into this. I think we were all victims of that,

Speaker 12 of his personality coming out. Remember when he came out of the draft, everyone said, well, he wasn't a captain.
He wasn't a leader. He was kind of an introvert.

Speaker 12 he didn't talk a lot, he wanted to go back to Eugene and

Speaker 12 play another year.

Speaker 12 Because remember, he didn't come out early, yeah, he had the chance to come out early, but he went back to school, and so we paid so much attention to his personality that we overlooked his talent.

Speaker 12 And the Miami Dolphins did so much that they took two in front of him. How about them, Apples?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, no, me, it was the hair.

Speaker 5 When they cut his hair, I was like, he's lost all his powers, and then he spent the last year growing it back out. It's nice and shaggy.
It's not too long, like Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it is, it's a good point, Booger, because it's actually, it's crazy when you look at quarterbacks, and if they stay longer, it's just more time to tear them down in a weird way.

Speaker 3 Whereas like when it's the potential is there and they come out after three years, it's like, well,

Speaker 3 we can fix everything and everything looks great. I remember people were saying that because he

Speaker 3 played high school football in the shadows of Autson Stadium in Eugene, Oregon, and then went to Oregon, the guy's never traveled anywhere in his life, and that was a knock against him.

Speaker 3 When you have more time, you break it down. But

Speaker 3 he's been incredible. And

Speaker 3 so that Chiefs-Chargers game, we were talking about it on Sunday.

Speaker 3 I think the Chargers' defense and the

Speaker 3 Chargers-Browns game. I think the Chargers' defense and the Browns defense are both very good.
Is there something to be said for a game that just gets out of control where

Speaker 3 you can't judge their defense going forward on that one game where shit just went crazy and it became a shootout and like game flow was completely off the charts because I don't think both those defenses are give up 500 yards and 40 point defenses

Speaker 12 no but I do think both of those defenses their weaknesses got exposed a little bit okay

Speaker 12 if you look at the Chargers defense they couldn't stop the run like they had the the the wherewithal of of like two ants trying to stop the run like they mean they just couldn't do it And if you look at

Speaker 12 the Browns defense, I know the defensive coordinator. He's a personal friend of mine.
And and they've tried to build that secondary up for the last couple of years, and that secondary got exposed.

Speaker 12 When Miles Garrett and Jadavion Clowney are not getting after the quarterback, that secondary was getting toasted.

Speaker 12 I mean, Mike Williams was running scott-free to the point that I honestly thought that the play was dead because there was no one around him, and it was a touchdown.

Speaker 12 So, to your point, sometimes it can get out of hand, but I think that was just one of those cases, man, where it was really, really

Speaker 12 two defenses that had bad matchups because their weaknesses were being accentuated by the other team's strength, if you follow them.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 5 I want to ask you about the Washington football team's defense because we had Rex Ryan on a couple weeks ago, and he said that's his biggest disappointment of the season.

Speaker 5 It's my personal biggest disappointment because I was relying on that team to be able to, you know, look like themselves from last year to a certain extent because they haven't really changed personnel.

Speaker 5 They haven't changed coordinators. They, in fact, added some guys on defense, but they suck.
They're just really, really bad right now.

Speaker 5 From your perspective as a defensive guy, is it an effort thing or is it a scheme thing?

Speaker 3 How much hope should I have for this Washington football team defense?

Speaker 12 I think it's a combination of two things. And I'm thinking scheme because the same coordinator is still there.
Jack Del Rio is still the defensive coordinator. So then I go to the next step.

Speaker 12 Could it be effort? Well, I see they're playing hard. Those guys are flying around.
I just don't see the consistency of attention to detail. The things that make you great are often the little things.

Speaker 12 And last year, that defensive line was dominant. This year, it hasn't been.
Last year, they were creating turnovers. This year, they're not.
Last year, the secondary was pretty good.

Speaker 12 I think they added, is it Jackson, JC Jackson, maybe? The corner?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got the corner, and they got Landon Collins back, who is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was supposed to be good, but he's like, he's been pretty bad to the point where people are saying maybe he should just switch positions to linebacker.

Speaker 5 And that's never a good sign when people are like, your safety safety is so slow, but he could be a really good small linebacker.

Speaker 12 Well, listen, that's kind of like big cat. If Big Cat were to play football, he would probably start out at fullback, and then they'd be like, you know what? This running thing is a little tough.

Speaker 12 Let's just move him to guard or center. So eventually, eventually that's where you get to.
So again,

Speaker 12 you and I are very similar.

Speaker 12 We can morph into different positions, even though you may want to be a fullback. I think eventually you settle in at left guard, maybe a right guard, because left guard is more athletic.

Speaker 12 You'd be kind of a right guard.

Speaker 3 that's that's why i think that's personal now booger yeah no that's

Speaker 3 no it's not no it isn't projecting because booger booger struggles with his weight so he's projecting i'll take it i'll i'll i'll carry it for you i don't struggle with it i just like to eat

Speaker 3 uh where where do you land on um the starting rookie quarterbacks like the the debate obviously raged when justin fields was not being played trey lance has looked not great but he's you know had to play for jimmy garoppolo because he got injured do you you think there's a, like, are you one of those guys, like, hey, you could ruin a starting quarterback?

Speaker 3 Or if they're the guy, they're going to be the guy and you should play them right away.

Speaker 12 I think you play a guy when he's ready. I don't believe in putting the guy out there and just throwing him to the wolves.

Speaker 12 I think there's a lot of kids that are growing up nowadays that are mentally soft.

Speaker 12 And if you run into a mentally soft quarterback, yeah, maybe you could. uh not necessarily ruin them but but you will get them in a bad mental state or a bad frame of mind.

Speaker 12 As you look at these quarterbacks here, Trevor Lawrence, I think, is super athletic.

Speaker 12 I think he's going to be fine as long as he can keep Urban Meyer on the plane and coming back to Jacksonville and he stays invested. I think Trevor will be fine.

Speaker 12 Zach Wilson, his talent is really, really, really, really off the charts. He can make all the throws.
I just think he's got to get used to doing the simple things.

Speaker 12 Like he's got to get used to coming to work, taking the time card, clocking in, and going to work. Like he doesn't need to come to work with the shades on and the designer jacket.

Speaker 12 He's just got to get used to doing the small things. And if he does that, I think he'll be good.

Speaker 12 Matt Jones. Listen, Mac is in a really, really good situation.
I love Mac Jones. I love what Mac is doing.
I think Mac is going to wind up being a really, really good quarterback.

Speaker 12 He'll make some Pro Bowls. He'll be really good for a long time.
Justin Fields, I'm not a believer in Matt Nagne.

Speaker 12 I think Matt Nagy.

Speaker 12 Preed. You know, yeah.
Yeah, I'm just not a believer in what he's done. I thought Mitch Trubisky

Speaker 12 was a quarterback that had a lot of talent, but he just wasn't using the proper way.

Speaker 12 Trey Lance is not ready. And what I mean by not ready, let me define that.
The objectivity of playing that position or the prerequisite, you got to make really good decisions.

Speaker 12 You got to take care of the football and

Speaker 12 you have to give your team or put your team in the best position to win. That means you can't take sacks.
That means you can't throw the football to the other team.

Speaker 12 If you watch the preseason, in every game he played, he took a ton of sacks.

Speaker 12 He threw interceptable balls even though they were not sometimes intercepted but he threw balls that hit the dbs in the hands so he's not ready and if you watch the game the other day against the cardinals i mean trey lance i mean he the first throw of the game or one of the first throws of the game he gets picked and he throws another one clear over the guy's head the game is moving too fast for him eventually it'll slow down and when it does he'll be an all-pro player So I honestly think that these guys, there is a lot of expectation based on where they pick and based on our appetite to get everything we want right now.

Speaker 12 Like it's really not on their fault. It's our fault because big cat, you being a Chicago Bear fan, you want to see Justin Fields right now because you're paying your season tickets or whatever.

Speaker 12 You want to get your money's worth when you go to the stadium. Well, just have a little patience.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You mentioned Urban there for a second.

Speaker 3 Is there any recovering of that locker room? You've been in locker rooms your entire life.

Speaker 3 I'm sure you've never had a coach not fly back with the team.

Speaker 5 Let's just say hypothetically, Tony Dungy stayed overnight after an away game, and then he was grabbing a girl's butt in a bar and getting absolutely hammered.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like something you may have seen. How does it recover? Like, are those guys,

Speaker 3 are those guys checked out of what Urban Meyer is saying for the rest of the year? Or

Speaker 3 is there any way this could, because on top of it all, they're bad, but is there any way he can get back the trust in that locker room?

Speaker 12 No, I don't think so. I don't think Urban can.

Speaker 12 And to your point, PFT, I don't think Tony Dungey would ever do that, which is the one thing, like Tony didn't comment on the whole bar thing with the wife.

Speaker 12 Tony's biggest thing was, he's like, that's between you and your wife. Tony's biggest thing was as a coach, you left your team.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 Like this whole thing about teamwork, and I'm the guy out front, I'm the leader. Like you literally got off the plane and says, all right, guys, we lost a heartbreaker.

Speaker 12 Hey, I'll catch you guys on the other side. Like, that's just something you don't see people do.
Yeah. And

Speaker 12 that's something as a player, my coach.

Speaker 12 here's the thing: here's what's crazy: not only did you leave, not only did you leave us, you went to the bar and you got a female that's not your wife, and she's twerking on you, and you're like having a great time, okay?

Speaker 12 So, the very thing that you would probably get upset if we did late at night, or somebody caught us in a very compromising position, here you are as a grown man married with adult daughters, you are in there, and we still don't know where his right hand was.

Speaker 12 Like, nobody still knows where that right hand is.

Speaker 3 I've watched the tape, we don't i've watched the tape it was it was in some places it was uh it was doing a little uh rpo i'll put it that way

Speaker 12 come on now this is this is part of my take i i need a little bit more than that uh it was somewhere between the butthole and the vagina it was in the gooch yeah well listen you said it i'm glad you've watched the tape i didn't see it i'll go back and look at the tape a little bit more in detail and see if i can see that but At the end of the day, guys, as a head coach, you just can't do that.

Speaker 12 That's the only thing I'll say. You just can't can't do that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they might leave him in London. I think that would be the best possible outcome for everybody.
Just don't allow him on the plane. Have him go out to the pub.

Speaker 5 Have a couple pints with some birds over there.

Speaker 5 Switching gears real quick to college football. You're an LSU guy.
We're LSU guys. We love Coach O.
I want to preface everything I'm about to say with the fact that I love Coach O.

Speaker 5 He's been very good to us on this show, and he won a national championship. You don't have to qualify.

Speaker 12 Just go ahead and say it.

Speaker 5 You can't take the national championship away from him. Is he going to get fired this weekend?

Speaker 12 No, I don't think he's going to get fired this weekend. I do think that the people, I'll put it this way, and I think this is the God-honest truth.

Speaker 12 I think that the people who make those decisions in Baton Rouge,

Speaker 12 their attention is

Speaker 12 focused solely on

Speaker 12 every Saturday throughout the rest of the season. And that's not just with the outcome of the game.
That's preparation. That's his press conferences.
That's everything that involves LSU football.

Speaker 12 Because guys, I'll tell you this, in the state of Louisiana, it's LSU football number one, and everything else is set.

Speaker 12 That includes the New Orleans Saints and the Pelicans, regardless of whether Zion is playing or not. It is LSU football and everything else.

Speaker 12 And so I think from an athletic standpoint, from a political standpoint, the entire state is focused on what happens and what goes on the next six or seven Saturdays. And if that doesn't change,

Speaker 12 I don't have to tell you guys anything you don't know. Like, I think we all know what eventually, if it doesn't change, what's going to happen?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It sucks. It sucks because we love Coach O, but it's also the reality of SEC football.
It's the reality of a school like LSU that expects to be great year in and year out. The pressure.

Speaker 3 We should be great. Yeah.
LSU has got the guy. We should be great.
Yes. Yes.
Actually, on that note, so

Speaker 3 LSU always has top recruits, you know, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, these teams that always get the best recruits.

Speaker 3 Would you, when you're playing on a Saturday, is it that apparent when you play against a team that's like, okay, they could have a great quarterback, they could have a great coach, but when it comes down to it, they don't have dudes that are even close to our set of dudes.

Speaker 12 Yes, I think I've played several games where

Speaker 12 you basically say, hey, if that dude doesn't beat us, they got no shot.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 12 And you know what going in,

Speaker 12 nobody's something, like,

Speaker 12 nobody comes out and says it because that goes against the whole code. Because, hey, we got to go out and we got to play one player at a time.

Speaker 12 You know, all the codes speak one player at a time, do your job, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 12 But I think in the back of everybody's mind, you know that if we're playing Wyoming and they have Josh Allen, hey, if Josh Allen can't beat us, the other 21 guys that are going to step on the field have no shot.

Speaker 3 Right, right. It's just

Speaker 3 an interesting part of college football when you watch it every Saturday because in the NFL,

Speaker 3 any given Sunday, you know, like every team has pros and any team can beat any team. Whereas in college football, even this weekend, you know, with Alabama losing to Texas AM, it's a shocking upset.

Speaker 3 But at the end of the day, Texas AM has really fucking good players. You know what I mean? They have a top 10 recruiting class the last three, four years.

Speaker 12 Why is it shocking? Jimbo told you this summer it was going to happen. And it's even referred, what, in golf?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But you know what I mean? Like that's that when you actually look at the recruits for each team, the talent level is not not that, there's not a huge discrepancy.

Speaker 3 It's just that A ⁇ M was having a bad year, and Alabama's Alabama.

Speaker 12 It's perception, right? I think we have the perception that

Speaker 12 when I hear a name, I automatically know what it's going to be like. Alabama dominant, Ohio State dominant, Georgia dominant, LA shoot, they could be good depending on who the quarterback is.

Speaker 12 So like there's this. there's this perception michigan never beat ohio state so like as soon as you say names the perception comes in our mind.
And I think that's our fault again.

Speaker 12 Because you're right. If you look at the recruiting rankings,

Speaker 12 the teams that should be really good, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, some are good, some are not. Like Clemson's terrible this year.

Speaker 12 And so I think they got to, you have to be able to look at the team, watch how they're playing, follow how they're playing, and that'll give you a little bit of insight.

Speaker 12 But I think the parody is starting to take a little bit of shape in college football. And what I mean by that is,

Speaker 12 I think that Penn State has raised their level of play. I think Michigan is playing well this year.

Speaker 12 I'm still waiting for USC to get the right head coach. When they get the right head coach, then when USC starts rolling, then they dominate California.
And USC, Oregon kind of control the West Coast.

Speaker 12 You come in the middle. It's always been Texas, Oklahoma.
You go up in the kind of in the Midwest slash Northeast. It's been Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan.
And then you have the SEC.

Speaker 12 That's kind of been what college football has been about. Miami, Florida State has kind of been up and down a little bit.

Speaker 12 But like generally, it's been like a 20-team field for like the last 30 or 40 years. We're just, I think, slowly getting back to that point.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. It's also interesting.
I think the biggest change in college football is that guys can transfer and the transfer portal is, you know, you don't see it.

Speaker 3 Like you actually, Penn State losing to Iowa is a perfect example. They lose their quarterback.
They don't have a backup.

Speaker 3 Usually, in a regular season, you know, 20 years ago, you have a backup who's decent. Even Caleb Williams comes in.

Speaker 9 I don't know what, Link.

Speaker 3 What do you think Lincoln Riley is going to do with Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler? Because you don't want to lose Spencer Rattler this season. Like, he could,

Speaker 3 he probably won't, but if you name Caleb Williams a starter, Spencer Rattler could transfer. He could put himself in the transfer portal the next day, and now you have no debt.

Speaker 12 Well, I think where you're at right now, he's not leaving because where is he going? Who has scholarships available, et cetera, et cetera?

Speaker 3 Yeah, not this year, but he might say, like, I'm not going to stick around and be the backup. Again, he might not do it.
That's cool, right?

Speaker 12 Well, that's cool. If Spencer Rattler leaves and I got a scholarship, I can go sign somebody else.
But it's like, this is big boy football, big cat.

Speaker 12 Like, if you, you don't do the job, like you lose it. I'm going to play the best guy.
It's kind of like Nick Saban. Remember when Nick Saban pulled Jalen Hurts and put in Tua? Yep.
All right.

Speaker 12 And Jalen Hurts kind of just sat there and he tucked it out. And he came back in the, I believe in the SEC title game, he came back and played some.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 12 So you have to have the mental toughness as a kid to know that if I'm not playing well, like this is very, very similar to life.

Speaker 12 Like if I'm not doing what I need to do in life, I'm going to either be fired, demoted, and I got to

Speaker 12 look myself in the mirror and say, I got to do better.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Spencer Rattler, to your point. I don't think Spencer Rattler is going to start another game at Oklahoma barring injury over the next couple of years.
Because thank Caleb Williams.

Speaker 12 Caleb Williams came in and galvanized the team.

Speaker 12 So if Lincoln stood in front of the team and said, hey, we're going back to Spencer, he would lose every player in there because they look at him with the side eye like, so you're going back to the dude that had us down two touchdowns or three touchdowns against Texas?

Speaker 12 Okay, all right. So now you're not about winning, you're about the agenda.
Yeah. And so as a coach, you can't do that, man.
You always got to be real with your team.

Speaker 12 And because if you don't, then you risk the you risk losing the confidence and the trust of your team.

Speaker 3 But But what I'm saying is the best coaches going forward in college football will find a way to keep positional depth in an era where guys can transfer.

Speaker 3 Like Penn State, if they keep Will Leavis, who starts for Kentucky and beat LSU on Saturday night, if he's the backup for Penn State, they win that game in Iowa. I believe that.

Speaker 3 Instead, they don't have that backup, you know, and it falls apart quickly.

Speaker 3 So it's going to be interesting to see which coaches are able to massage those relationships and keep guys kind of bought in, even though they're not starting right away.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I think that's a good point.

Speaker 12 I also think that that depth is going to be younger.

Speaker 12 So you're not going to get a guy who's a junior or a senior that's just going to sit there and twiddle his thumbs and listen to pardon my take on Tuesday and Wednesday and go to practice and ride the bench on Saturday.

Speaker 12 Like you're not going to get that.

Speaker 3 Will Levis

Speaker 3 is a listener. Yeah, Will Levis listens to every show and he beat Elliott.

Speaker 9 Factually incorrect, Booger. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 12 One out of a hundred. Okay.

Speaker 12 Say I'm wrong. All right.

Speaker 12 Most of your depth, to your point, big cat, is going to be younger guys. So freshmen and sophomores.
And that's what Nick Saban does.

Speaker 12 A great job of convincing young guys to kind of sit around and wait their turn.

Speaker 12 He'll play them a little bit in the games against Northwest Directional State to kind of make the moms and dads and the grandparents feel good.

Speaker 12 But when you get in the conference play, those guys don't play a whole lot.

Speaker 5 All right. What about Georgia's defense? Because

Speaker 5 I'm starting to think they might be one of the best defenses of all time.

Speaker 5 Like maybe in 20 years, we might look back back and we might be like, This Georgia team is like those early 2000s Miami teams, you know, like some of the Florida State teams from back in the day.

Speaker 5 Do you think that this Georgia team, what we're watching right now, could be an all-time great?

Speaker 12 I think the defense is as good as we've seen on a collegiate level in a long time.

Speaker 12 I think Stetson Bennett, aka the mailman at quarterback,

Speaker 12 brings a level of

Speaker 12 maturity and toughness to the quarterback position that JT Daniels doesn't. You know, JT, I've never seen a guy practice like on Tuesday, Wednesday, skip Thursday, didn't play Saturday.

Speaker 12 Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 12 And so I think this is Georgia. It seemed like

Speaker 12 we say this every year. This is Georgia's best opportunity, maybe, to win a national championship.
Like, how many times have we said that?

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 12 Like in the last couple of years, we've said it a couple, like two or three times. So their defense is legit.
Their head coach is really, really, really, really, really good.

Speaker 12 I played with, not with him, but I played against Kirby at Georgia. I think we're going to get one of the all-time great games when we get Georgia versus Alabama in the SEC championship game.

Speaker 12 I think it'll be outstanding.

Speaker 12 And I think it'll be one of those Saturdays that we look back and we go, wow, there will probably be, it'll be very similar to the LSU Alabama game that was 10, 9, or 13, 9 years ago, where I think there were 44 draft picks on that field.

Speaker 12 I think when Georgia and Alabama face each other, potentially, I think there'll be 40 to 50 guys that go in the first four or five rounds in the NFL draft at some point.

Speaker 5 When you were playing against Kirby on the field, did you underestimate him because his name was Kirby?

Speaker 12 No, I underestimated him because if I'm not mistaken, Kirby played safety and he didn't look really athletic.

Speaker 5 He looked like maybe a coach's son.

Speaker 12 You know,

Speaker 3 he's a hard guy.

Speaker 12 He's going to be in the right. He's going to be in the right spot, do the right thing.
He's a coach on the field. You know, all the stigmas.

Speaker 5 Yeah, deceptively athletic.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 I got you.

Speaker 5 I just feel like people named Kirby usually get underestimated in life. It's one of those names that it's hard to take seriously, but I think he's proven himself.

Speaker 5 And obviously, I think this team on defense is definitely one to watch.

Speaker 3 I do want to see them play like an explosive offense. And that's not an.
I think the defense lights out, but they have not played an explosive offense.

Speaker 3 And your retort could be: there aren't that many this year.

Speaker 12 But like.

Speaker 12 Who would you classify as an explosive office?

Speaker 3 Ole Miss. Alabama, Ole Miss.
Oh, geez.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 3 Ohio State.

Speaker 3 what okay oh listen hey big guy listen uh alabama yes ole miss I take it you're believing lane also no I think they're they listen Georgia will beat ole miss because ole miss can't stop anyone I'm saying all I'm saying is the offenses that Georgia has played are not good Clemson is a dumpster fire offensively right now.

Speaker 3 That was a win week one. We're like, oh, that's huge.
Arkansas is one-dimensional. Auburn, Bo Nix is trick-or-treat.

Speaker 3 Again, I think Georgia's defense is very, very good. I just, I can't wait till they have to play an offense that can do multiple things and do them well.

Speaker 3 Alabama, like you said, the SEC championship game will be fantastic.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that's fair. I would just rebut that by saying Ole Miss put up, what, 14 points against Alabama? And I think that Georgia's defense is a notch above balance.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I agree with you. I just, it's more, it's less a knock on Georgia.
It's more like, I want to see what it looks like against a truly explosive offense, and then I'm ready to say this is

Speaker 3 all-time defense from Georgia. You know what I mean? That's the last piece of me.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 I got you.

Speaker 5 Booker, are you still in the room with Chris Berman this year while he's coming up with his nicknames?

Speaker 12 Yes.

Speaker 12 He talks a little bit.

Speaker 12 He doesn't talk out aloud as much about him, but we are in the room together.

Speaker 5 Okay, because I remember last year we did Jalen Hurts so good, and you got that on the Air Force, which I appreciate. Yes.
That was probably like...

Speaker 3 What do we have this year?

Speaker 5 That was teed up for him nicely. I don't know.
I was thinking two things. Justin Strawberry Fields.

Speaker 5 That should be an easy one to incept.

Speaker 5 Or maybe around Christmas time with the 49ers, deck the halls with Balls of Holly.

Speaker 3 Sala la la la la la la la. No, with the Jets.

Speaker 5 What I said, 49ers? Yeah, with the Jets. With the Jets, yeah.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that one's a bit of a reach. I do like the Strawberry Fields one though.

Speaker 5 Okay, that should be easy for Boomer to hear and be like oh yeah did you hear did you hear the the whoop that he let out the other night i think it was last monday night when he was doing the washington football team game where he just he screamed and you could hear it echo off the far corner of the room yeah if there were cobwebs in the corner of the studio they there weren't after that whoop

Speaker 12 yeah boomer is uh i think boomer gets a lot of pent-up frustration throughout the week And when he comes into the office on Sunday, he has to let a lot of that out because usually once we do our show, he has to record several things for Sunday and Monday and all that.

Speaker 12 And so, I just think he lets a lot of it out. And if you're in a way, you're going to hear it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. All right.
I had one more NFL question.

Speaker 3 So, give me your.

Speaker 3 You had a Super Bowl prediction preseason, but give it to me right now after week five.

Speaker 12 Week five Super Bowl prediction: I am still, I'm going to be a homer. I am going Tampa versus

Speaker 12 Buffalo.

Speaker 3 Okay, so you're not a believer in the Cardinals?

Speaker 12 You know, there's an old saying, big cat, that you got to crawl before you walk. I think they're crawling right now.
I don't know if they're ready to walk just yet.

Speaker 5 Got it.

Speaker 3 Is that a hype comment about Kyler Murray? Yeah. You're calling him a big cat.

Speaker 12 Okay, well, I mean, listen, I get it. If you want to go by the Parcels thing, that you are what your record says, okay, they're 5-0.
They're the best. If I ask you this, you tell me this.
They're 5-0.

Speaker 12 They have the best record. Are they the best team in Football?

Speaker 3 No, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 12 Okay, so don't tell me that they're 5-0.

Speaker 3 I just said Cardinals. You know, just shout out the Cardinals.
You know, people get upset because you don't shout out the Cardinals.

Speaker 12 Okay, I hear you. What were you saying, PFT?

Speaker 5 I was just saying that it sounded like a height comment. Like you made a baby reference to Kyler Murray and Moore because they're shorter guys.

Speaker 5 I thought that was a little bit disrespectful as a short man.

Speaker 12 As a guy who is a six-foot defensive tackle, I am with the short people.

Speaker 3 Trust me. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 12 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 12 I was never one of the tallest guys.

Speaker 12 You know, me, Aaron Donald, Grady Jared, like, we're among the short defensive tackle crew. And what I mean by that is none of us are six foot one at all.

Speaker 5 I like that, though. Be like, you know, guys like me and Aaron Donald, like maybe the best defensive player of all time.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 12 We play the same position.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 It just plays a little better.

Speaker 3 Did we want to ask?

Speaker 5 He trained with knives. You trained with forks and mac and cheese.

Speaker 3 Did we want to ask quick scouting report for what's going to happen with the Raiders this week? Because they're interim head coach, you know, right?

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 are they going to, is this a, they rally or is it things are going to fall apart quickly here?

Speaker 12 No, I do think they rally. Who do they have this week?

Speaker 3 Denver at Denver.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 12 That'll be a slugfest.

Speaker 12 Rich Versace, just really, really quick about him.

Speaker 12 He's a special teams coach. And what happens with your special teams coaches, they have to talk to offensive guys and defensive guys.

Speaker 12 So that's why they usually have a really, really good pulse of your team. So I think he'll have a really cool feel, a really good vibe when he walks into the meeting tomorrow about his team.

Speaker 12 He'll be able to rally the troops. I think this is the best thing for him.
I don't think that having John in that locker room another day was going to be was going to be beneficial to anyone.

Speaker 12 I think there's a lot of soul searching that Mark Davis had to do before they came to that decision last night.

Speaker 12 And I think Versacea going forward, I think he'll do as good a job as you can do under the circumstances. Are they going to go 12-0 the rest of the season? No.

Speaker 12 But I guarantee you, the team will fight. The team will fly around.

Speaker 12 He's been wanting to be a coach for a long, long time. I can tell you that.
All right.

Speaker 12 And I look for him to put his best foot forward. And just don't be surprised if this team

Speaker 12 rallies behind Rich Basace.

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Speaker 3 Tom, all right. One last thing on Rich.
Is he...

Speaker 12 What's his body type like because that's usually how i judge interim head coaches uh body type as in uh i mean he's not muscular like gabe kepler if that's what we're thinking like he's not he's not bench pressing 350 before the meeting is he a football guy is he a football guy in the truest sense absolutely football guy uh it's hot outside he's he's gonna walk out there with a long sleeve shirt on okay not a football coach's dress yeah you know he he's gonna have a pencil somewhere uh okay he's gonna have a bunch of plastic stuff hanging out around his waist like he's a true football guy, man.

Speaker 5 Competitive casual.

Speaker 3 I like it.

Speaker 12 Yes, very,

Speaker 12 that's a great way to put it.

Speaker 12 That's probably your best contribution in the last half hour.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thank you.
Will he cry for his team like Dan Campbell, which I love to see? That was,

Speaker 3 if you're on the Lions, are you like, those are good tears? He cares?

Speaker 12 Yeah. So there's probably a couple of different camps that the team falls in.
One, some guys will be like, man, what in the hell is wrong with him? Like,

Speaker 12 what are you doing? And then you got the sentimental crowd that's like, hey, man, hey, our coach cares. We're like, I'll run through a wall for him.

Speaker 12 And then you got the other guys that are like, okay, I get it. I'm not sure if I'd cry about it, but okay, it's cool.

Speaker 12 So, just depending on which camp you fall into, I think that the players fall into one of those three camps.

Speaker 3 Okay. And Rich, would he cry if

Speaker 3 given the correct football situation? Because this is important stuff for betting. Like, when you get a chance in an interim head coach,

Speaker 3 it's very, very crucial to nail what type of personality they have and

Speaker 3 whether or not you're going to bet on their team.

Speaker 12 Here's what I'll say, and I think this will answer your question.

Speaker 12 If I had to go in a foxhole and it's only me and about four or five people, and you told me I could go all around the NFL and pick from head coaches and assistant coaches, I'm taking Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.

Speaker 12 I'm

Speaker 12 taking Rich Basacea.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 12 I'm taking, I'm trying to go through the list. I'm taking,

Speaker 12 I'm taking Sean McDermott.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 12 I've got to give me a high energy guy. I'm getting Sean McVay.

Speaker 3 Hank is getting mad because you haven't said Bill Bellichek.

Speaker 12 Not getting. What the hell is he going to do?

Speaker 3 He's a fucking man. Figure out a way to get you out.
Yeah. Hank is

Speaker 3 in the name of the forever more mad going down this list. Right, okay.

Speaker 12 And then lastly, let me see who I'm going to get.

Speaker 3 What is fucking McDermott going to do? What about Andy Reid? Andy Reed. Andy Reid.

Speaker 3 Or can I maybe say maybe Matt Nagy and you have him run out so everyone sees the fire going one way and then you can sneak out the other way?

Speaker 12 No,

Speaker 12 so basically

Speaker 12 you want Matt Nagy to kind of lay down some cover fire?

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, he runs out and then we just get out of the foxhole and retreat.

Speaker 12 Oh, no. I'm trying to think.
Who else would it be?

Speaker 3 What about Urban Meyer?

Speaker 9 You'd be like, bro, where the bitch is at?

Speaker 12 You know what?

Speaker 12 I'm not going to put Urban Meyer because Urban Meyer just gets sick and stay in the hole.

Speaker 3 I need somebody that's actually going to fight. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 12 Remember the O-line coach from Cleveland? The one that was on hard knocks?

Speaker 3 Bob Wiley.

Speaker 3 Yes, Bob Wiley.

Speaker 12 Okay. I need cover.
I need cover.

Speaker 3 I like that. Human warmth.

Speaker 5 He's also a magician and a pilot. So that's really, he's like a Swiss Army knife of an individual.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Yes, yes. But back to the original point, Basacea will be in there because he's a tough SOB.

Speaker 12 I got to know him a long time. I know his son.
He's a football guy through and through.

Speaker 12 The reason, I think people don't realize this, but the reason why him and John were so close is because he wasn't afraid to tell John, you're wrong. You're wrong.
That's not right. You're wrong.

Speaker 12 And oftentimes, when you have guys who are assistants, they just tell the head coach what they want to hear.

Speaker 12 And I think the respect factor that we all have for Rich is that he wasn't afraid to tell John when he was wrong.

Speaker 12 And John must have respected it because he was in Tampa with him and he also was in Las Vegas with him.

Speaker 5 Rich should have been the IT guy then. Yeah, you need to use him to read.

Speaker 3 proofread all the emails.

Speaker 12 Well, listen, I think a lot of IT guys around America right right now are getting, are working the next 24 hours scrubbing all kinds of servers and all kinds of stuff right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if you're an IT guy, now is the time to solicit bribes from people.

Speaker 3 All right, Booger, thank you so much. We appreciate it.
Always enjoy our time with you.

Speaker 3 You're the best.

Speaker 12 Anytime, man. Y'all have a good one.
Take it easy, buddy.

Speaker 3 See you, Booger. Thanks, Booger.

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Speaker 3 all right let's wrap up we've got

Speaker 3 we're putting the listeners on the hot seat because the guys on chicks question sucked so we got to pick that up we'll also bring back guys on checks, and we'll also have blue-collar Jerry come in every now and then.

Speaker 3 So, let's pick it up for our Wednesday segments. So, instead, we're going to do a Wednesday reading on a Monday, or Monday reading on a Wednesday

Speaker 3 because we had a super fan fight. Now, Billy is the expert on this because he wrote a blog about it, so we'll have Billy chime in.
But let's hop into it. Should we hop into it?

Speaker 3 This is an awesome story. All right, so the article is:

Speaker 3 Chiefs fans X Factor, Red Extreme, respond to fight inside Arrowhead caught on video.

Speaker 5 Okay, so there's one Chiefs super fan that I think most people have seen. Right.
He's the guy that wears, I think it's a cheese head that's dyed red. Correct.

Speaker 5 And it says X Factor on it, named after Dante Hall.

Speaker 3 Yep. But he's electric.

Speaker 5 That should be the name of the Corderille Patterson Award. Yes.

Speaker 3 X Factor, yes. Yes.
And

Speaker 3 we should give it in every sport. Yes.
Yes, the X Factor.

Speaker 5 Yeah, politics.

Speaker 3 Yeah. News.

Speaker 5 You can give bounty hunting.

Speaker 3 I'd actually give it to the Iowa Punter.

Speaker 5 He's the

Speaker 5 X Factor of the Year.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 9 All right.

Speaker 3 Here we go. Kansas City, Missouri.
For the second home game in a row, fighting in the stands of what's GEHA Field?

Speaker 5 I'm going to say Arrowhead Stadium.

Speaker 3 Arrowhead Stadium. It's GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium.
It's all over social media. This time with an odd twist.

Speaker 3 Two weeks ago, it was fans brawling at the Kansas City Chiefs took on the Los Angeles Chargers. This weekend, it was super fans squaring up early in the game against the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 If you spent any time around the stadium on game day, you've likely heard at least one of the men involved. The man who calls himself the X-Factor has been around for decades.

Speaker 3 In a Twitter video, he's seen getting knocked out by another super fan that the people in Section 129 know as Red Extreme. Now, I have a question just to start off.
Are both these guys 129 guys?

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 5 that's a big issue. It looks like it.
I actually don't think that there should be more than one super fan at any given time for any given team. Correct.
There is a super fan.

Speaker 5 There aren't two different super fans.

Speaker 3 There can be other super fans, but they have to know the hierarchy.

Speaker 3 There has to be a king.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't even call them super fans. I'd call them like, I don't know, like turbo fans.
Super fan implies that you're number one.

Speaker 3 Turbo fan is kind of cool.

Speaker 5 Turbo fan is cool.

Speaker 3 I'd rather be a turbo fan.

Speaker 5 Turbo fan is the king of the super fans.

Speaker 3 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 5 But the point remains that there needs to be an established protocol of who's who's and who.

Speaker 5 It sounds to me like the other guy, Red Extreme, like he should be.

Speaker 3 That would be Mr. Red Extreme.

Speaker 5 Mr. Red Extreme, he doesn't sound like he's a super fan to me because they even said he's just the king of that section.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 5 But I knew who X Factor was going into this weekend.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yeah.
You're right. So, all right.
They kicked me out of Arrowhead first time ever X Factor's been kicked out. Notice here, X Factor is actually speaking in the first person here.
So I love that.

Speaker 3 Third person. Third person.
That is a true Super fan thing to do. So he says, they kicked me out of Arrowhead first time ever X Factor has been kicked out.

Speaker 3 Ty X Factor Routon said during an interview Monday, this is reminiscent of when Superfan in Detroit Don got kicked out for standing and cheering on defense. You can't have that.

Speaker 3 The video of the X Factor.

Speaker 5 Can I just say I don't like the fact that they're deadnaming him in this article?

Speaker 5 Don't break that wall for me. They should continually refer to him as X Factor.
X Factor. I don't want to know his name.
It's irrelevant.

Speaker 3 The video of the X Factor, is it the X Factor or X Factor?

Speaker 5 I always just thought it was X Factor.

Speaker 3 Because now they're using it as the X Factor.

Speaker 5 Like it's a

Speaker 9 proper

Speaker 3 video of the X Factor falling after an apparent punch has nearly a million views on Twitter. The X Factor explained what happened from his perspective and who was involved.
He's my old apprentice.

Speaker 3 I actually made him famous. God damn it, this is so good.

Speaker 7 He's my old apprentice.

Speaker 3 He's the one who showed him the ropes of being a super fan.

Speaker 5 It's a tragic story. It is.

Speaker 3 It's Rocky V. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Come on. All right.
He's my old apprentice. I actually made him famous.

Speaker 3 You know, gave him the name Red Extreme.

Speaker 5 I really had to dig deep for that one.

Speaker 3 All right, so I'm already the X. X Factor.
XXX.

Speaker 5 The Chiefs.

Speaker 3 They wear red.

Speaker 3 Red Extreme. That sounds good.
Red Extreme. Okay.
I think all in agreement. Yeah.
I saw him come run up the stairs at me and he had that look. I'm going to kill you.

Speaker 3 So I like tried to grab his jersey to stop him and talk to him. But like the movie Friday, he deboed me.

Speaker 3 One punch and I saw stars. Then they took me to triage at Arrowhead, check me out.
I felt all right at the time, but then I didn't know I had broke my ribs.

Speaker 5 There should not be triage for these kinds of fights.

Speaker 3 Let's not act like you're on a nurse's office.

Speaker 5 Active battlefield.

Speaker 7 How many ribs does it sound like?

Speaker 3 Well, gonna there's a plot twist in here i don't know if it gets in this story but billy that's why we have billy but i'm gonna say five ribs five ribs feels like um this doesn't feel like you should you should be going to a hospital there should be a special a zoo set up yeah for like and they should have

Speaker 3 an actual vet a vet should look at these guys red extreme posted a 17 minute video message uh to his facebook page following the incident he blamed the x factor for this a cup of water was thrown and hit my wife in the back and splashed onto me i've never in my life felt so bad about feeling so good because knocking that low life son of a bitch out was the greatest feeling I've had in a long time.

Speaker 3 Holy shit, what a line. I got to read that again.
So this is Red Xtreme who knocked out X Factor.

Speaker 3 I have never in my life felt so bad about feeling so good because knocking that low life son of a bitch out was the greatest feeling I've had in a long time. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 A year and a half ago.

Speaker 5 I mean, we have to get these guys for rough and rowdy, right?

Speaker 3 Yes. I just want to talk to him.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 we need to have them finish what they started in the ring.

Speaker 5 I think that judging based off what I know so far from X Factor and Red Extreme, they won't have a problem putting on the gloves.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, definitely not. Especially for

Speaker 3 some coin.

Speaker 3 My problem is it happened inside the stadium, and I never imagined in my life I would behave in that manner in the stadium. Really? Red Extreme? Really?

Speaker 5 It sounds like he's not that extreme, though.

Speaker 3 You're a super fan named Red Extreme. You never thought that a possible fight would happen?

Speaker 5 And I saw the video. The video starts at the moment of impact, so we don't get to see anything that led up to a fight.

Speaker 5 But Red Extreme certainly he walks away like a man that has been involved in a couple stadium fights before.

Speaker 3 Right, right.

Speaker 3 This is not old hat for him.

Speaker 3 He also accused the X Factor of being inebriated during the incident. This is Red Extreme.
He says that I'm a meth addict, which I'm a cocaine addict and an alcoholic.

Speaker 3 Been cleaned for four years, so he did clear that up. He's not a meth addict.
He's a cocaine and alcoholic.

Speaker 5 That's X Factor. That's

Speaker 5 X Factor. So I like the phrasing here because it said that Red Extreme also accused the X Factor of being inebriated.

Speaker 5 Then X Factor went over the top, and just so everybody knows, he said I was a meth addict. Right, but no.
I'm not. I'm actually addicted to cocaine.

Speaker 3 And booze.

Speaker 5 So in my head, I went, he was drunk.

Speaker 3 Oh, no. Wait, meth? What? No, Coke.
Yeah. But none of it.

Speaker 3 But I've been sober for four years. But if, if he's basically saying, if I weren't sober, I would have been coked up.
Yeah, my drug of choice is Coke and Booz, not meth. Get it right.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Get it fucking right. That is slander.
Yes, it is.

Speaker 5 You can't say that.

Speaker 3 He's like, I've never done meth. I just fucking blow lines and drink a shitload, but I haven't done it in a while.

Speaker 5 He's like, I party. I don't do hard drugs like meth.

Speaker 3 All right, throughout the day, Fox 4 tried repeatedly to connect directly with Red Xtreme, but we were turned down.

Speaker 3 However, after this story aired, in an interview by phone, Red Xtreme stressed that anything the X Factors says should be taken with a big dose of skepticism.

Speaker 3 He also said he stepped away from the Chiefs Super fan community because of the distrust and distaste for the X Factors' behavior. This is, this goes deep.

Speaker 3 Like, this is, the whole community has been rocked.

Speaker 5 I need to, well, no, the community was rocked before this.

Speaker 3 No, I'm saying it's the whole, this beef that obviously it came to a head on Sunday night has broken this community apart.

Speaker 5 It's long-standing, yes.

Speaker 3 And again, the Chiefs won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 So he's got to go.

Speaker 3 This should be the best time.

Speaker 5 I need to know who else is in the Chiefs Super fan community. How many other Super fans do they have? Because

Speaker 5 I'm starting to see a systemic issue with the Chiefs in that there's no clear leader.

Speaker 5 There's too many Chiefs, not enough I words. Yes.
And we need to know who's at the top of this one.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 5 Because, of course, anytime you have just lawlessness, Lord of the Flies type stuff, you're going to have fights in your community.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 Uh-oh.

Speaker 3 And also great breaking news.

Speaker 7 Maybe the best breaking moves you could have. Field Yates just reported: following Russell Wilson's injury, the Seahawks are working out.

Speaker 3 The boat! Blake Bloody! Blake Board! Let's go! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Speaker 3 Oh my, yes!

Speaker 3 I love it. Also, shout out Field Yates because this could even just not be true, but he knows it will all reach out.

Speaker 5 I'm in the process of

Speaker 3 a dirty

Speaker 3 move.

Speaker 3 I love it. it.
That was a dirty move by View.

Speaker 5 He knows what he's doing. Take the boat out on the Puget Sound, baby.

Speaker 3 That's, yeah. Our working.
Okay, yeah, he knows what he did there.

Speaker 5 Okay. I love it.
Am I crazy to think that you don't bring Blake Bortles in for a workout?

Speaker 3 No. Hasn't he? You bring him in to change the whole culture.

Speaker 5 You bring him in with a contract already signed. Yes, exactly.
It's kind of insulting that people.

Speaker 3 Parking spot there.

Speaker 5 You know what you're getting when it's a good idea?

Speaker 7 It's a formality.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 10 If they sign him, Sunday night, him against Big Ben.

Speaker 3 Oh, love it. Well, geez.
Oh, dude. Yes.
They never know.

Speaker 5 No, it's Blake because Blake always kicks Big Ben's ass.

Speaker 5 He murdered the entire franchise.

Speaker 5 He's a stealer-killer.

Speaker 3 Okay, great breaking moves. All right, let's get back to Red Extreme and the Chiefs Superfan community.
So

Speaker 3 Red Extreme has left the Superfan community because of X Factor's behavior. We pick up here.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, Rotten, who is X Factor, meanwhile, X Factor said he's had a wild week, including flipping his car, but was clear about whether he'd retire after this incident. So, hold on.

Speaker 6 Can I ask a quick question just to throw this out there?

Speaker 3 He got broken ribs from getting knocked out. Yes.
Not by the car. No, he was fine.
Flipping a car. The car flipped.

Speaker 5 But it was the

Speaker 3 punch that broke all of his ribs.

Speaker 5 This is a clear case. They're going to use this.

Speaker 3 Billy, go ahead. So apparently.

Speaker 5 Apparently, everyone in Kansas City hates X Factor.

Speaker 3 Okay. And they they think he's allegedly a...

Speaker 5 Allegedly, like a child molester.

Speaker 3 Oh, and

Speaker 3 whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 Okay. Allegedly.
Allegedly.

Speaker 5 X-Factor? Now, wait. Is X-Factor a child molester?

Speaker 3 Or is...

Speaker 3 No, he's never done meth. Coke, coke, and booze.

Speaker 5 But they think he was boozed up when he rolled his car. Actually saying, you know what?

Speaker 3 But if he was coked up, too, then maybe...

Speaker 5 Allegedly.

Speaker 3 Got it.

Speaker 5 The more I hear it, the more telling a reporter, I'm not a meth ed, I'm a Coke guy and an alcoholic, that's actually very meth-like behavior. Yeah.

Speaker 3 To follow Ty that you don't do method. I like to believe in life.

Speaker 5 Now, is X Factor, is he alleged to be a child molester, or is it Ty Roughton, the man behind the costume? Just Google, Google Ty Routon.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 All right, so anyway, he was clear about whether he'd retire after the incident. X Factor was saying, no, this is making me stronger.
You know, Jesus was persecuted. I'll come back stronger.

Speaker 3 I,

Speaker 3 it doesn't seem like a great guy, but I love him. I actually do love him.
All right. At this moment, authorities are not involved in the situation.

Speaker 3 Neither of the men involved have expressed interest in pressing charges of any kind. Two weeks ago, Jackson County prosecutors filed a variety of blah blah blah blah.
All right.

Speaker 3 The X Factor is planning on attending next weekend's Kansas City Chiefs game in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 3 Now, Billy, we need some background too, because Billy also uncovered that these guys have known each other for a very long time.

Speaker 5 Very long time. There's a picture of so basically the Chiefs have a bunch of super fans that were in a community, and these two are just two of many others that are involved.

Speaker 5 So turns out,

Speaker 5 X Factors,

Speaker 5 the mother of X Factor's wife, I mean the mother of X Factor's children might have slept with the Red Extreme 18 years ago. Whoa.
Okay. Which caused the schism.

Speaker 3 And what does the mother say?

Speaker 5 The mother says,

Speaker 5 I gotta pull it up. Okay.

Speaker 5 Wow. So here's the tweet from Ty X Factor Routon.
The man who knocked me out,

Speaker 3 aka.

Speaker 5 It's very, very weird how he phrases it. Red Extreme is right in front of me in this photo.
The feud started 18 years ago when he slept with mother of my child behind my back.

Speaker 5 He broke my hand, ankle, jaw, teeth, and four ribs and punching me at arrowhead. And then there's a picture of them in happier times

Speaker 5 in happier times.

Speaker 3 Four ribs. Guy was in a car crash a few days ago.

Speaker 5 Not on meth.

Speaker 3 Got it. I got all checks out.
No, I would. Also, shout out me as a doctor.
I said five ribs. He said four.

Speaker 5 They're going to teach.

Speaker 5 They're going to use this as an example in law school, like five years from now, about how people should probably not talk to the press when they have pending litigating matters. Yes.

Speaker 5 So obviously, like, he could sue the guy for money for broken ribs, maybe even sue the stadium. But the fact that he just couldn't help himself, he's like, you know what?

Speaker 5 The news wants to talk to X Factor. I'm going to talk to him.
By the way, I flipped my car yesterday. Yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 So forgot to mention this more.

Speaker 5 X Factor is very active on Facebook.

Speaker 3 Can we try to book X Factor, please? He and Red Extreme.

Speaker 3 Maybe Sneak Attack, where we get them both on the same time.

Speaker 3 Well, don't tell them now. Okay.
I mean, I don't think they're listeners.

Speaker 5 I just followed him on Twitter. This is a fucking awesome bio that he has.

Speaker 5 I am CEO of KC Superfans, Pro Football Hall of Fame Chiefs Superfan, world record holder for watching 70 straight hours of football.

Speaker 3 Oh, this guy, we got to interview him. We got to interview him.

Speaker 5 We got to have him on the show.

Speaker 3 Got to talk to him about that.

Speaker 5 Unless he's a child molester.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, we'll say that at the start. Like, hey, dude, are you a child molester? And if he says yes, then we'll stop the interview.

Speaker 5 That's how we should start every interview from now on.

Speaker 5 So he says, this is about his accent. I love the song, Jesus Take the Wheel.
Who knows how long that was yesterday? Tire marks in ditch was a mile long.

Speaker 5 I fell asleep behind the wheel going 85 miles per hour on interstead. On interstate, thank god this Sorrento didn't have cruise control.

Speaker 5 As God took my foot off pedal at some time, I went down a huge ravine, plowed through fence, and struck a tree right before a pond. Tree flipped my vehicle, and I woke up.

Speaker 5 Who knows how long after hanging upside down my vehicle due to seat belt? My two passengers were ejected, and one was stuck in between windshield and dash. Thank goodness they are small guinea pigs.

Speaker 3 They had no injuries. What?

Speaker 3 I forgot this part. I forgot this part.
He's driving around with guinea pigs. I forgot this part.

Speaker 5 And the guinea pigs were fine. No, the guinea, so X-Factor raises guinea pigs.

Speaker 3 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 5 They had no injuries. I have a broken left hand concussion, bruised ribs, head, back, and glass.

Speaker 3 That's all I've done.

Speaker 3 He's claiming that the punch.

Speaker 5 No, that was a totally separate set of injuries when he got punched.

Speaker 3 Incredible.

Speaker 3 And then. Yeah, what the wife said?

Speaker 5 The wife said, and we don't know if this is the wife, really, but I think it is because of the reactions from him. You lie so much, you can't even keep track.

Speaker 5 18 years ago, I was just pregnant with my oldest and didn't even know you. He and I never screwed around.
Take your beating that you started and fucking stopped playing victim like a bitch.

Speaker 3 That's the ex-wife of X Factor. Yes.
That's incredible.

Speaker 5 I don't know if they were married, but I think this is the first time.

Speaker 3 This story is the best.

Speaker 5 I kind of want to go down to DC and interview interview X Factor.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. We need to get him on the show.
We have to get him on the show.

Speaker 5 If anybody out there knows how to get in touch with X Factor, it seems like it might be.

Speaker 5 He's a big fan of publicity.

Speaker 3 We got to get him on the show. Let's get him on the show.
He needs a Friday show. This is incredible.
X Factor.

Speaker 3 What? If he's not

Speaker 3 a child molester. Let me check that out right now.

Speaker 3 If he's a diddler?

Speaker 5 Are you going to check? Is X Factor a child molester? What would you say his name was? Type.

Speaker 3 All right, well, let's wrap up.

Speaker 5 I want to say, for legal purposes,

Speaker 5 all accusations of him being a child molester were done only by Billy.

Speaker 3 Allegedly. And Red Extreme.
And Red Extreme.

Speaker 5 And Red Extreme.

Speaker 3 Yes. I have nothing to do with that.

Speaker 3 All right. Should we do numbers and the show?

Speaker 5 I'm so excited about Blake Bortles.

Speaker 3 96.

Speaker 3 What a.

Speaker 3 18.

Speaker 5 6'9. 97.

Speaker 3 6.

Speaker 5 Guinea pigs get their name because they cost a guinea at ports in South America.

Speaker 10 There are five numbers out of play.

Speaker 3 80, 50,

Speaker 3 8,

Speaker 3 44, 89, and 16.

Speaker 3 Oh, wait.

Speaker 3 47.

Speaker 10 Wow, it goes from six times to seven times.

Speaker 3 Now has a two-ball lead. Whoa!

Speaker 3 47. I love this.
It's dominant.

Speaker 10 Wow, there were three numbers of five, 47 at six, now 47 at seven.

Speaker 5 I would like to weigh 47 and see if there's a difference in weight between that bow and the others.

Speaker 3 What a beast.

Speaker 10 It's 47's world.

Speaker 3 We're just living in it. Yeah, crazy.
Death taxes. What's 47? What's the number of guardian

Speaker 5 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

Speaker 12 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Do you have an animal fact?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I did. Guinea pigs are called guineas because guinea pigs cost a guinea

Speaker 5 at the ports. Love you guys.
Oh, it's 42.

Speaker 5 Talking away.

Speaker 5 I don't know what I'm to say I'm saved anyway

Speaker 3 Today's and not the day to find you shying away

Speaker 3 Oh, I'll be coming for your love okay

Speaker 3 Shy it away

Speaker 3 I'll be coming for your love okay

Speaker 3 take

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 me

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 me

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 I'll be

Speaker 3 gone

Speaker 3 Needless to say

Speaker 3 I'm all designed,

Speaker 3 but I'm east on a little way

Speaker 3 Tell them if life is okay

Speaker 3 Say after me.

Speaker 3 It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 3 Say after me.

Speaker 3 It's no better to be safe and sorry.

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 me.

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 me.

Speaker 3 I'll be

Speaker 3 gone

Speaker 3 in a day or two.