Tyson Fury, Professional Bull Rider Ezekiel Mitchell, NFL Week 5 Preview & Geno Smith Is Back

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We had double punts. We had double fingers being broken.
We had Geno Smith. God damn it, to the Seahawks rule in prime time.
Yeah, as our friend Kevin Clark puts it, the Seahawks have never played a regular game, but even still, they find ways to put new squares on the bingo card. If you thought that the Seahawks could do everything, guess what? We've got a double punt.
We've got, yeah, two quarterbacks of broken figures. And we have the live Seahawk landing on a guy's head in the stands, which is probably the most normal thing that happens.
But yeah, the double punt was something I never thought I would see in a game outside of one that David Cully coached. But holy shit, that was the best play of the night it was incredible well I I have to get we have to shout out Gino Smith for going 98 yards and we knew the pick was coming because that was Gino Smith was feeling himself but yeah the double punt uh incredible the way he scooped it uh I I listen we like Mike Pereira but he got that one wrong because we all were sitting there we We all were screaming, punt it again.
And when he punted it again, they threw a flag. I think the rest were just like, sometimes the rest throw flags where they're like, holy shit, that play was so awesome.
We need a minute to figure out if it was legal or not. Yeah, let's collect our thoughts after what we just saw.
We'll buy ourselves a minute of discussion time after the fact. And the Seahawks, in terms of the game, it was clear that Matt Stafford was off because he had a finger broken.
Then the Seahawks are leading. Russell Wilson breaks his finger.
Like, the middle finger is just completely bent in half. That game felt like it was winnable for the Seahawks.
Then it went away because Russell Wilson gets hurt. Then Geno Smith brings it back from the dead.
But a big win for obviously the Rams. They win in a way that's tough to win in the division.
Tough to win on the short week. Tough to win on the road.
But yeah, Matt Stafford's finger. He did not look good.
And he also threw in the classic Deshaun Jackson just getting pretty deep down the field. I was about to say that Deshaun Jackson play actually had everything that we love about Deshaun Jackson in a single play.
He burns his cornerback, gets open, makes a catch off where he adjusts at the last minute to a ball, outruns everybody, and then stops short at the goal line, and then also looks like he's got a pulled hamstring. All in the same play.
It's a complete experience. And shout out our co-workers Jack McCarthy and Evan Basenko.
I think I got that right. But I just call him Ebo.
Nicknaming Jamal Adams Blitz Boy, which is the best nickname ever because if he's not blitzing, he's not productive on the field. He's like a chess piece that can only do one thing.
Like DK Metcalf is a chess piece. He's the rook.
He runs straight. Jamal or yeah, Blitz boy, Blitz boy.
He just, he crowds the line of scrimmage. He wears sick armbands.
And then he's excellent in run support, which is, I guess what they traded to for first round picks for. We should give a little bit of credit to Rex Ryan though.
Yes. Because drafting Gino Smith is just, that's one more plot point.
One more data point on why Rex Ryan scored the highest score ever on creativity and problem solving in the history of the state of Maryland. I was so, it was just like, it was nice to see Geno Smith.
That Geno Smith was one of those guys I thought I'd never have to think about again. You know what I mean? He's just like, that name is never going to come back up in my life.
And then boom, there he is, 98 yards. I think Geno smith i think he might be a franchise quarterback so this is like the first time that we've really seen russ wilson get hurt and yes yeah right like he doesn't he doesn't miss time yeah he's gotten hurt but he's never missed time right he's had some ribs i think in the past he's been a few ribs he's been nicked in the past but yeah we might get an extended stay from Geno Smith back in the national consciousness,

which I'm very much looking forward to.

Although, yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean, it was a pretty gruesome broken finger.

And I, listen, I know that they had to run the ball on third down and long after Russ hurt his finger.

But the Seahawks like to do that.

They did it in the first half, too.

Their play calling remains a complete mystery to any sense. Well, Pete Carroll is still in the process of establishing the run, and having Geno Smith, we are going to get a healthy dose of either Alex Collins or Chris Carson if he comes back.
The run has never been established like it's about to be established. Like, I got it.
I got it, because Russ Wilson gets hurt. You don't want to make him throw there, get off the field, assess the injury.
But they did do it in the first half where it's like, if there's one team that you would say can pick up a third and long, it's the Seahawks because they have guys that just, that's what they do. They rip big plays.
They actually aren't good at like six-yard plays. They're good at bombs and short runs.
And DK looked awesome tonight. Just keep feeding DK and you'll be okay.
Gino and DK got a little bit of a connection. They have some chemistry.
They have almost like a breakfast club type chemistry going on out there. Yeah, Cooper Cup also had a big game.
Very big game. Yeah, the breakfast club lives on.
Do you think that when the Seahawks, where they're all action green, which I like seeing it out there, it's Color Rush Thursday. I like it on a Thursday night.
Yeah. I don't necessarily like it on a Sunday afternoon.
It looks gross in the sun. Yeah.
In the light of day, it's a, whoa, what are you doing here? Yeah. It's like we have beer goggles on when we're watching it.
They're the last chick at the bar. They look pretty good.
It's like when you wear a button down shirt to work and I'm like, what's going on? Yeah, exactly. There's some things that during the day you just shouldn't dress up yeah so um yeah I think I like the action green uniforms but don't you think that it makes it easier on the opposing quarterback if the defense is wearing highlighters like you can see where the cornerbacks are there's no blending in there's no hiding yes when you're wearing the action green and the other note that had on the game was we did get a doink.
We got a doink out of it. Except the

doinks, I don't know if it's my ears changing as

I get older, but they're sounding more

like bonks these days. Oh, no.

I thought Sunday's doink was

a real nice

doink. Yeah, but it's like a deep.
It's like a bonk.

Not a doink. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

A doink is more like a ping. And I

just think that if the ball hits the upright,

it should be a live ball after that. Agreed.
And you should be allowed to pick it up and run it into the end zone for a touchdown. Yes, yes.
All right, other things we had. The U.S.
is back to being the best soccer team in the world. Pepe is only 18.
Yep, he's a fucking wagon, so made easy work of Jamaica. And then we had playoff baseball.
So, well, Wednesday night was a dramatic Cardinals-Dodgers game. Walk-off 3-1 win for the Dodgers.
It sucks because that was... Cardinals were actually my pick to win the World Series, so I feel bad about that.
You've been saying for a long time... I thought it was their year.
This Cardinals team is different. Yeah, I really did think it was their year.
Clutch hits the entire winning streak. 0 for 11 runners in scoring position.
This has got to be the loss that stings the hardest for Cardinals fans out there because this team was going places. And Pujols marches on.
Yeah, wouldn't that be something if Pujols came up big in the postseason? That was quite a move to pinch hit him there. Yes, a little gamesmanship.
And then today we had the White Sox get, I mean, they got smoked by the Astros. That was a 6-1 game as a smoking in the playoffs.
But quick turnaround. They got a game tomorrow.
I don't know. I mean, wouldn't it, it does kind of feel like the Astros.
Do you want the White Sox to do well? So what I told our friend Tom Fernelli and I told all the White Sox fans in my life, I'm rooting for the White Sox until they start to annoy me, which could happen at any moment. You know what I mean? It's like you want them to do well until they say some shit, and then it's like, nah, fuck that.
So it could happen tonight. It could happen tomorrow.
It could happen. You know what I mean? It's basically just a ticking time bomb of how long I can be like, oh, yeah, it'd be nice would really like i think that's a fair way to to do it like yeah essentially when that's how i root for like whatever team is out there that i don't actively root for during the season right whenever you're rooting and your team's not involved you essentially are like which team will piss me off the least yep like the rays winning the world series would be a great thing for america because no one would one would care so I'm hoping that we get at least one point where it's Dusty Baker and La Russa jawing at each other like old friends that have been drinking at the same bar maybe they live like two doors down from each other for the last 60 years and they love each other but at the same time if they get to feuding, if someone borrows the other guy's mower and doesn't return it in a timely fashion they're going to be ornery at each other yes that's what i want to see yes just jawing each other maybe fight maybe have them fight it out out of that would be a slow motion fight and then the rays beat the red socks in game one still home randy or razor randy or razorana a rosarana razorana first of all his name's randy which is so awesome, you don't get a lot of...
The only Randy we have in our life right now is Fat Randy. Randy Bobandy.
Randy Moss, obviously electric. But any guy named Randy is like...
It's just kind of a funny thing that's added to it. That was an electric steal of home.
Any steal of home. And he hit a home run.
Yeah, but stealing home in the playoffs, and it wasn't like any little hygiene. It was a straight up, he stole home.
Balls to the wall. Yeah, like that's, you see that maybe once or twice a year where it's like nothing weird happened.
No one got distracted. It was a straight up, I'm going to steal home on your ass.
We also have like a stadium infrastructure battle going on between the Red Sox, obviously with the Green Monster that had a big showing, and then the Tropicana roof. The roof at the Tropicana is so weird.
One is a wall, and one is a surface that is ever-moving. It's a roof.
No, but some of the roof is in place. Yeah, the catwalk.
The TROP is by far and away not even close the dumbest stadium we have in American sports. And I kind of like it because it is so stupid.
There was probably three or four times during that game where there were just outfielders looking up being like, don't know where the ball is. That stadium was designed by somebody that grew up watching cricket that has no idea how baseball is played.
Yeah. And where things could come into play and affect the course of an actual batted ball.
It was designed by a guy who worked on the... Remember when NFL...
Was it NFL 2K? When they had... What was the NFL game that came out that was like against Madden? No, no, not Blitz.
There was one... Yeah, there was 2K.
2K, yeah. And it was like a little bit off.
Everything was a little off. Yeah, it's like the guy that got fired, the assistant that got fired when they were building the Marlins Stadium was hired to build the Tropicana.
Oh, we could get Tropicana versus Minute Maid. Ooh.
We have the A ring, the B ring, and the C ring. It's not Minute Maid anymore.
Is it Minute Maid still? Oh, it is. Okay, there we go.
The OJ battle.

Nice.

Put the knives away. Yeah, so then we got all

baseball tomorrow.

Do you still follow him on Twitter?

No, OJ blocked me on Twitter.

Probably for the best. Yeah, that is definitely

for the best. Let's get him on the spot.

We've been offered

and we were like, nah, I don't think so.

I do maintain that if I got killed by OJ Simpson, it would be the biggest sports story. It would be, not to sound egotistical.
That did sound egotistical. But it would be a pretty massive deal.
Yes. No, I think we were, there was like, maybe like four years ago.
They asked us to bail him out of jail. No, it was a deal.
It was a Natty Light deal. And they said, hey, we want you to go drive Vanny Woodhead to the prison that OJ Simpson's in.

Yes, and interview him.

And pick him up.

Be his first interview.

From when he gets out, and interview him with a case of Natty Light in the back.

I don't think so.

Were we in Vegas?

No, no.

We were going to drive to wherever his jail was, and we were like, I don't think so.

We're like, I don't think, yeah.

His son's a murderer.

Yeah, also, let him do a couple interviews first. You know? Yeah.
That was a Billy reference. I don't actually think that.
But there's a lot of facts. If it wasn't him, who was it? He's trained in hand-to-hand knife combat.
Oh, cool. There you go.
Come on. Aren't you? Say less.
No, he is. But aren't you as well? I don't deal with knives.
But no, wait, your hands. I'm not a knife guy.
But your hands are weapons. Technically, till the end of the year.
So if anyone gets murdered, you would be the first we think of. Blood and floor trauma.
Would you challenge OJ to rough and rowdy? Actually, I'd beat the... He's looking old.
There you go. Well, he's not looking old.
He is old. If you won the Heisman Trophy in like 1965.
If you're over 70 years old, I don't think you can say he's looking old. It's just he is an old person.
No, it's like there's a lot of... almost like there's some guilt or something that's weighing his face down.
I don't need to be committing elder abuse again. By the way, so we're going to get to our NFL preview in a second, but just a little time travel for you.
Billy did bring in the cookie, and it was garbage. It was beyond garbage.
No, I didn't have the right tools.

I didn't have the right tools.

You'll find out at the end of the show what we're referring to.

But yeah.

Well, I had to cook it in a pizza oven.

It was garbage.

It was garbage.

It doesn't cook right in a pizza oven.

You could have cooked it at all.

It's still hot, right?

Actually, a pizza oven is designed to bake things like cookies.

No, because it cooks from the top.

I don't know if that's true.

Anyway.

Okay.

Let's get to our NFL preview, week five preview.

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Yeah, it's like it's like 4.12 yes it would be it would be a quarter of the way i'm trying to do the quarter math where you break it down which we used to be able to do with 16 games now it's 17 it's fucking up my whole divide the season quarter strategy yes it really fuck everything up. It also feels like the week that we will get to eliminate some teams some 1-3 teams that if they don't have a good showing or win the game, I think you can kind of say that's probably over Yeah, there's always those stats that come out that say if you start the season 1-3 or 1-4 or 0-2 Week two is really the big one where it's like 70 percent of two and oh teams make the playoffs and 30 percent of oh and two teams or something like that but yeah if you're one and four at this point um yeah you're done it's tough you're done stick a fork in you um okay so let's do our picks and we'll preview the games jake give us an update real real quick on the drive to survive.
Is that what we're calling it? Drive to LA. That's F1, right? We should just co-opt that and just have everyone start talking about it.
Drive to survive. Drive to LA.
Survive in LA. To live and die in LA.
What about the drive to the 405? Ooh, I like that. The drive to the 405.
So give us the updated standings. Yeah, so Billy and Big Cat, 3-1 last week.
We had Liam go 2-2, or Hank go 2-2, PFT and Liam 1-3. Ofer.
Oh, Jake! Ofer for me. So I am 5-11, Liam 6-10, PFT 8-8, Billy 9-7, Hank and Big Cat tied at 11-5.
Here we go. You want to be the loser here.
Best out of three? Sure. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. So me and Hank.
Wow, that would be... Yeah, but I said that and then I realized it's the winner, so we wouldn't even be able to.
I was thinking, because I don't think I was on a live stream or something, but I was talking about the potential scenarios, and I was like, if it was me and Jake, we would just set really early tee times and golf in the morning. In February? In February? Okay.
I'm talking about it. I said, we set really early tee times, golf in the morning, and then drive for the rest of the day.
And then someone was like, it's going to be in February. Maybe we'll go south first.
Just merge, migrate down, go Florida I-10 all the way across. Hug the wall.
Yeah. Okay, I like that.
Yeah, stay right on it. I'm hoping to bounce back this week, but no guarantees.
Jake, when you stink at picking games, you can always be like, this is why play-by-play guys don't pick the game. I was about to say it's a little distasteful that Jake even picks these games.
He gets a spread acknowledging to gambling. Well, if I call one of them.
Yes. Okay.
That's fair. All right, but let's get into it.
Let's get into it. Let's talk some football.
Let's talk some preview. I'm very excited for this weekend.
Not the best slate, but it has the best game. I would say, yeah, probably, I'm going to say right now, the best game that we've had this season.
Chet's Falcons? Not Chet's Falcons, London, which is a terrible, terrible game, which I'm going to enjoy. But the Chiefs-Bills Sunday night game is, that is the best game so far this season, it feels like, right? Yeah, I think it's the best game.
I have a very short-term memory. I'm like a goldfish, and it's the best game that I can remember during the regular season.
Yes. Do you think it will get better ratings than last week? No.
Does it have an Adele theme song? It's Buffalo. I feel like, but it's such a big draw still.
Yeah, no, it will be close, I think. It actually will be close.
It is a very big draw. I think you had non-football fans watching that.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
That's for the same reason that they did the Ed Sheeran concert at week one.

Correct.

To bring in a new audience.

Yeah, correct.

The NFL needs to break something out to make this game equal last week's ratings because, yeah, the storyline going into last week was that transcended sports.

It needs to probably be a Cowboys game, too.

Like, that feels like it's whenever the Cowboys.

Whenever people complain about the Cowboys being on Sunday night or Monday night football. Well, they always do the best rating.
Sorry. Okay, Hank, why don't you start us off? Let's start with favorites and we'll preview every game.
My favorite is going to be the Packers. Oh, okay.
Minus three against the Bengals. Minus three against the Bengals.
You're right, Jake. We're going to reference the spread and who they're playing.
It seems kind of like a rat line. It seems like it should be a little bit more, a little bit higher for the Packers.
I do just think it's one of those games. I love Joe Burrow, love the Bengals.
Thought they played well against the Jags, but it's the Jags. I see this being a 10-point, never in doubt.
Interesting. Aaron Rodgers kind of dominates game.
A couple of things. I believe Jair Alexander's out.
I believe. He is the best player on the Packers defense.
I'm going to look it up. Maybe someone look it up for me.
I think their top two defensive players are out. Matt LaFleur did say with the 1 o'clock kick start, not prime time, not in the afternoon.
You've got to wake up with your piss hot, which I love.

I actually have a friend who used to be the strength and conditioning coach

at Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech, and he would always talk about how you've got to

wake up with your piss hot.

And that's just a very football guy thing to say.

A strength and conditioning coach, that can take on a second meeting, though,

if you're pissing hot.

But, yeah, it's the nature.

It's your body's way of making coffee.

You heat up the piss. You wake up with a boiling bladder.
I like that, true. If you're pissing hot.
But yeah, it's the nature's, it's your body's way of making coffee. You heat up the piss, you wake up with a boiling bladder.

I like that too. I like LeFleur.

Now it's in Cincinnati, right? It is.

So it's on the road. We know Aaron Rodgers

isn't going to be sticking around to spend extra time with his family

after the game. So that's another, that's a big

plus sign for him as opposed to Urban Meyer.

Yep, that's true. Could be a couple weeks,

could be season ending, but probably

out. That's a shame.
Did they pick up, they picked up Jalen Smith? They got Jalen Smith. I think he's healthy.
He was like a healthy cut by the Cowboys. They still owe him a lot of money.
And the big question with him is always going to be, have his knee nerves regenerated fully from the gross injury ad when he was at Notre Dame? But apparently they just cut him because they didn't want to pay him, and they have some good players coming in at linebacker. Yes.
So I think he instantly becomes the best player on the Packers defense. I'd agree.
This game, to me, has a weird memory I'm just going to throw out there. I remember it.
I'm looking it up right now, but I vividly remember 2005 Packers playing at the Bengals and Favre trying to throw a pass when he was like 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. And I remember watching it and being like, thank God Favre is finally done.
And then he still went to, I think, two NFC championship games with the Packers and the Vikings. And stopped over with the Jets.
Yes. So I remember, though, watching that game and being like, oh, my God, this is awesome.
Favre's lost his mind. He's terrible.
The Packers are finally going to stink now. Yeah, no, it was a good moment.
It was a good memory. So that's what I think of when I think of Packers going to the Bengals.
Unfortunately, history did not work out, and the Packers have been very good since. But I will always cherish that moment.
I'm trying to find it right now. Oh, yeah, he threw five interceptions.
I'm watching the highlights right now. He threw five interceptions in that game, and he was just old man Favre.
The ultimate, when a guy like Favre, when a gunslinger gets old, they don't realize that the line of scrimmage, you're not allowed to throw past it. And they just will have at least one or two times during the year where they'll run past the line of scrimmage and be like, I'm just making a play.
My favorite is when Ryan Fitzpatrick does it, but he pump fakes past the line of scrimmage. So he runs and he'll be like six or seven yards and then he'll fake a defender out there.
He's trying to run around by doing a pump fake. And you always fall for the pump fake.
Yes, you always fall for the pump fake. I'm trying to find the clip right now.
All right. They were, all right, Let's go.
I will find the clip and I will show it to you guys if I can. It feels like a rat line though.
Hank's right because plus three for the Bengals. It feels like it should be like plus five and a half, plus six and a half.
But this is one of those games where they're putting a piece of cheese out there. And I took it last week with the Ravens.
Felt pretty good about it. I was right last week taking the rat line.
But I feel like they're setting me up to become more confident when I see those types of games. They're going to slam the trap shut on my neck.
Yes. Yes, absolutely.
All right, your favorite, Liam. My favorite is going to be Titans minus 4.5 against the Jags.
I feel like it's a sucker pick, obviously, because of urban and everything but whatever yeah i like it too i like it too i'm big time square because it does this one feels like an implosion game for the jaguars like everything has gone wrong for them this week they don't respect their coach and people are talking about like how if urban meyer if he was three and one at this point, nobody really would give a shit.

It wouldn't be that big.

He could be making out with Tim Tebow's girlfriend or his wife or his mom,

and nobody would give a shit about that video as long as he was a winning coach in the NFL.

But if you lose, then every time you stick your finger close to a co-ed's butthole,

it's going to become news.

Yes, big time.

Also, we saw the video of them doing the 1-2-3 grind on three to break the huddle, which was very, very funny. Feels like the team is now mocking him, which is very, very funny.
I like this pick, too. I found the clip.
I'm going to show it to you, PFT. I want you to narrate it.
Also, in this game, a hilarious thing happened. A fan ran on the field and stole the ball out of Favre's hand while he was going back for a pass.
Was Aaron Rodgers? This is with like 27 seconds left. Watch this fan.
He just ran on the field and took the ball out of Favre's hand. And then he's celebrating? Yeah, he's celebrating.
I don't know if he got tackled, but PFT, this is not the play. That's a taunting penalty.
PFT is going to narrate the play. This is just a PMT time vault.
Okay, hang on. I'm going to have to drop the shades off.
Okay. 13 seconds.
Standardized, standardized, guys. I need to be able to see the screen.
I'm so happy my memory actually works sometimes. Okay, there's old Favre with his big old sleeves, drops back.
The offensive line isn't blocking. Fake spike.
Favre jumps back, pumps fake twice, runs to the left, and he's a yard short of the first down and throws it directly forward. He thought that he was actually on the schoolyard.
He was seven yards down the field, and he underhand threw it, being like, they can't call this, because no one probably saw it. So did it get picked off? Just the game ended.
They called the flag, the the game ended um but yeah thank god my memory still works from time to time i love the sense of panic though that a quarterback gets towards the end of the game like that and far i was like i've already fucked up enough might as well just go absolutely full send on it and do something stupid yeah and i just i just vividly remember being like yes farv is done that was the this man is senile and then he wasn't. All right, so what's your favorite as well? I also have the Titans, yeah.
I like that. The only thing that makes me a little scared about it is there's maybe a 10% chance that the team galvanizes against Urban.
I would bet against that. But you have to at least admit that that could be in play.
There's nothing that's uniting to a team more sometimes than their unified hatred of their coach. Right.
And I actually had a football coach like that in high school that said retroactively after he just made us run for an entire practice for no reason, he was like, you know what I was trying to do today was to try to get you guys united behind something, and if that was fuck the head coach, then that was going to be good enough for me. It's like, no, you're just a prick.
Yes, yes. You're just a douchebag.
There is a slight chance that something like that happens where some of the veterans on the team might be like, you know what? Fuck the coach. We're playing for ourselves.
We're playing for our next contract at this point, so let's put a little bit more effort out there. They're pros.
They care about the money. All right, my favorite, I'm going to go with Steelers.
I think it's even, it's a pick them right now. What is it? A pick them right now? This morning, they were minus one.
Now they're plus a half. Oh shit.
So I guess I was going to take the Steelers too, but can I take a minus one? I can take a minus one. Sure.
Yeah. Slide the line.
Yeah. I mean, it's just hurting myself, but that was my pick.
I'll take that. I like them.
All right. pick I'll take that so this is my personal stand my ground game where if the Steelers don't win this game I am done not only with the Steelers this season but done betting on them just pretending they don't exist because this is the game that if they have any pulse left it's a pulse check if they have any pulse left, it's a pulse check.
If they have any pulse left, they will win this game. You got maybe Drew Locke playing.
Denver coming to Denver is clearly, like, maybe not the team we thought it was because they played some shitty competition, and they get beat by the Ravens at home. Steelers' defense is healthy.
This is a pride. Do you have any pride, Danny game? All-time clip.
That's an all-time football guy. If you don't know it, Billy, you should go look up that clip.
I'm taking the Steelers. This is a reverse Ryan Clark game.
Is there anything that happens to your spleen when you go from altitude to Pittsburgh? Yes. Is it harder for Denver to travel on the road than it is for other teams? French fries in your stomach weigh a little heavier.
There you go. So I kind of like the Broncos in this one because I read today that Teddy Bridgewater's practicing.
He's in the protocol. If he plays, I would take the Broncos, but I'm staying away from it until I find out.
Ben Roethlisberger might not play Big Cat. He's got a chest.
And a hip. And a hip.
So a new injury, he's got a hip. He's probably not going to play.
I would be shocked if Big Ben made it out there this weekend. I mean, good God.
How much more can one body go through? He really is. He's really just going to do the thing where he spends the entire season adding injuries, which is what he usually does, but this one is especially sad because I don't think we can pinpoint where he's gotten injured.
He's just adding injuries so that when he gets worse and worse and worse, he'll be like, well, I'm more and more injured. It's not my fault.
So as you get into your mid thirties, you just start to have lingering aches all over when you wake up and you, there's like a running tally that's in the back of your head of what hurts usually when you wake up. It's not really an acute injury.
It's just like, oh, your body sucks now because you're old. So what big Ben's doing is he's, he's taking that list that he has in his head and just saying them out loud.
So he's like, yeah, I've got this going on. My hip hurts.
Yeah, no shit, Ben. My hip hurts whenever I take a shit.
It's just something that happens to the human body when they get old. But Big Ben does, you know, sometimes he plays better when his back's against the wall.
So maybe we get one more out of him. This is my stay on my ground.
Sometimes you've got to do this with teams. You've got to say it's now or never.

If they don't win this game, forget them for the rest of the season.

We should make a Ben Lives Matter flag.

You know, like the flag that has the stripe down the middle?

The yellow stripe.

The stripe that's on the top of their helmet.

Yes, yellow stripe.

Protect Ben at all costs.

Yes.

Billy.

I'm going with Buccaneers versus Dolphins.

They're minus 10.

I think they're going to cover. I think the Dolphins might win outright.
Yep. Seriously? Yep.
This feels... The Dolphins cannot be worse, right? And the Bucs are Super Bowl champs.
They have a ton of injuries in their secondary. They're coming off a very emotional win.
Tom Brady even admitted it, that he's emotionally drained. Everything went into last week.
No Gronk. Brady's sick.
And again, the Dolphins cannot look worse. Like, the Dolphins might be the worst team in the NFL, is what everyone's saying to themselves right now.
That's the game that I actually, I kept it out of my can't-lose parlay because that's what I, I'm scared of that. You know who spent years in New England studying Brady's on the offense?

Ryan Flores.

That's right.

He knows his number.

But, Billy, that's okay.

I'm just saying, I predicted the Chiefs were going to clown last week,

just clown on everybody, and they did.

Underhand passes, all sorts of stuff.

I think Brady's going to have like 360 yards, four touchdowns.

You think it's going to be a clown fest?

Are they going to clown the Dolphins?

And Tom Brady versus the Dolphins.

Always weird.

Always funky. Tom Brady's not capable of clowning.
You know what I'm saying? I don't know. He's not going to do anything unorthodox like underhand stuff.
I will, by the way, if Antonio Brown catches like three touchdowns this week, I will go back into the dark spot. I moved on from that, Big Cat.
Yeah, no. I moved on.

The worst part is, did I tell the story on here?

No.

On Monday morning, I was walking to get coffee,

and a guy who was working at a construction site was like,

hey, tough weekend.

I was like, I had a pretty good weekend gambling.

He's like, I saw the boys bet that parlay 14 to 1, and then he mimicked Antonio Brown dropping the ball. And I was like, oh, my God.
There were two passes. He should have caught the first one.
The first one might have been even a better throw than the second. It's bad, too, because I think shout-out Blue Collar, shout-out Jerry, Blue Collar workers.
But I would say that we're somewhat popular amongst the Blue Collar Workers, and there's a bunch of construction going around my house. So even today, I woke up, and I was walking to get coffee, and there was another guy who was like, what's the pick tonight, Big Cat? And I was like, I'm going to- I'm walking in.
They're going to tear down my house. They're going to fucking put a bomb in my house because I keep giving bad picks.
You must know how women feel walking past a construction site having a guy catcall

you by insulting your parlay that missed.

That's worse, I would say.

Way worse. I would much rather have a guy be like,

hey, shake it, don't break it. Way worse.

It's also so funny when I, like, if you tweet

a story like that and people be like, that didn't happen.

It's like, why would I?

Haven't we proven after the Magnum

condom video that, like, why would I make this up?

You know what I mean? What's the point?

I'll take things that didn't happen for 400,

Alex. It's not like a crazy, it's not

I'm sorry. Haven't we proven after the Magnum condom video that, like, why would I make this up? You know what I mean? Like, what's the point? I'll take things that didn't happen for 400, Alex.
It's not like one of those stories where you're like, my kid walked in and said, you know, my two-year-old walked in and said, hey, daddy, why is, like, the earth warming? No, it's a fucking random stool. He said, I saw the parlay you lost.
Hank, put down, or Jake, put down the things that didn't happen, Alex, for the basic Sunday night tweets. For next time Rodgers plays Sunday night.
Yeah, also, Hank, come on, these guys are pros, right? Yeah. Ten points, that's a lot of points.
That's a lot of points. They get paid to play the game, too.
I might have put them in my can't lose parlay, so I actually take that back. I think I'm going to take a money line.
Yeah, I mean, that's, and you know what? I'm going to put them in the dog parlay, too, now actually take that i think i'm gonna take a money line yeah i mean it's that's and you know what i'm gonna put him in the dog parlay too now that is one of those games where uh it is nice every now and then where you can bet a game and you'll know instantly whether you're in it or not you know what i mean like instantly you'll know um all right i would like to create some synergy with our with our bets too so we're not clashing anymore oh yeah it was fun even though we lost it do it together. No, I know.
I'm saying for the Can't Lose Parlay and the Hungry Dog Parlay. Okay, so mine, I do not.
We'll get in a step. Also, I do not have the Bucs, Hank.
The Bucs placed another cornerback on the injured reserve. Oh, wow.
So they're actually really banged up in the secondary. Hank, I have, for the 1 o'clock games, it's the Titans' money line the uh patriots money line and the vikings money line so if you want to do synergy there it is uh all right let's go with our underdogs because jake you have the same favorite as hank and i have the dolphins as me okay got it i have the dolphins okay dolphins okay there about it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bubba. Lions plus nine and a half.
I don't know. I just keep taking them every week.
I figure it's going to work out. That one, I will be on the money line as well.
I won't put it in the parlay for big head's sake. It's a lot of points.
The Lions are so due. Their defense is so bad.
Beyond due. I see this going completely different.
I see this as the game that everyone would be like, I can't believe you ever said Kirk Cousins is bad. Yeah, I think I watched them.
Yeah. I think week one is the only Lions game that I've watched, and I still just have that in my head.
I'm like, oh, backdoor cover. The comeback that they had against the 49ers at the end of the game, if people judge games by what you do against the spread, that's right up there with that Colts comeback against the Buccaneers on Monday Night Football in 2001 or whatever.
I just say, doesn't this feel like a 24 for 28, four touchdowns, 315-yard Kirk Cousins game where everyone's like, you guys are so wrong. It's Kirktober, baby.
Yeah, it's Kirktober. It didn't get off to a great start.
Tough start, but listen, between now and Halloween, this is where Kirk Cousins makes his next contract. Yes.
All right, PFT, your underdog. Okay, so I do absolutely love the Dolphins, and I'm trying to think if I want to change my – no, we can't change your picks, right? All right, Dolphins.
Okay. Dolphins.
There we go. Yeah, you can't change your picks.
I've got a secret underdog. For the people.
I'll wait until you guys are done. I love my underdog.
49ers plus five and a half. That feels like a lot.
I see five. Five? All right, give me five.
That's fine. They're on it.
Hungry dog. Runs faster.
Trey Lance looked like he had never played football before. He's got a week of practice.
If there's certain coaches that you want to trust, to be like, all right, this guy, let's fit a game plan to his strengths and not make him be Jimmy Garoppolo. It is Kyle Shanahan.
I also think the Cardinals are very, very good. This is not a knock on the Cardinals, although I don't think there's, besides Clue, I don't think there's any Cardinals fans that will get upset about this, right? But the Cardinals, like, they killed the Titans, crushed the Titans.
That was incredible. They barely beat the Vikings.
They barely beat the Jags. They were down nine in the fourth quarter to the Jags, or the start of the fourth quarter, and then they crushed the Rams, which was a great game.
I think you're going to get back to the letdown where it's like you see them have a big game, and then there's a little bit of a step back letdown. So still a very good team, but it just feels like the letdown.
So in the West, they have four very good football teams. Correct.
Now you look at the Cardinals and you look at the Rams and you're like, these two teams can outscore anybody. The Seahawks could probably outscore a lot of teams, too, if the setting hits them just right.
Yep. The 49ers, they're just a team that could kick anyone's ass.
Right. I don't know if they're going to beat anybody 40-10 this year, but from a physical standpoint, I feel like they're the most ass-kicking team in that division.
They're a dangerous team. They're a more physical team than most every other.
I'm trying think of any other team in the nfc that i think can play as physical the bucks defense plays very very physical yeah domico ryan's is doing a good job as the defensive coordinator in san francisco so i like that too i i think that this could be one of those games where uh trey lance throws the ball 12 times and the niners rush for 260 yards they They're going to put in the option offense that we saw a couple years ago when they had all their starting quarterbacks go down. And they were even having Nick Mullins play some option football.
So we've got a much faster as the Crow Flies quarterback and Trey Lance, more dynamic athlete. I like the 49ers a lot.
Yeah, the 49ers have the ability at any given time to be like, we're just going to run the ball down your dick for an entire Sunday afternoon and there's nothing you can do about it. Bully ball.
They're going to kick some ass. Billy.
Jets plus three against the Hawks. I think they're going to win outright.
I like that. I think they'd be the amount of the Falcons.
He's thinking Atlanta Hawks. That always gets me.
Atlanta Hawks. Atlanta Hawks, Falcons.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, yeah, they're going to win. There's a bunch of injuries.
Calvin Ridley's not making the trip, which is big for the Falcons. Exactly.
They have another receiver that's not making the trip either. Russell Wilson isn't playing.
Russell Wilson isn't playing for the Hawks. I'm so confused right now.
Yep. No D.K.

No D.K. But yeah, I like that.

I like it a lot. I think Zach Wilson's going to have a little bit of a...

He's going to have a moment. We're going to say Zach Wilson.

Also, isn't Woody Johnson,

isn't their owner the ambassador

to London? Sure. I think

at least he used to be. That's a fact I never

need to know or... He used to be.

He came close to knowing. I think it's a fun fact.
And yeah, I like the Jets a lot. I think that the Jets win outright.
I think they go over to London, beat the shit out of them, and then thoughts and prayers to our friends over in England, our listeners in England, who have to put up with this game. And then in just, like, what, a couple weeks, you have to deal with the Dolphins and the Jaguars.
That's, I think, next week, yeah. That would – they should just leave Urban Meyer in London.
Yeah. Like they did with Lane Kiffin.
Leave him on the tarmac. They should sue.
England should sue us for this. Although he's culturally, maybe not.
Like, that might be a cultural difference of Urban Meyer just grinding up against everyone. I don't know.
I don't know how they do it in London. Depends if he sweats or not.
Yeah, that's true. If he doesn't sweat, he's royalty.
Jake. Bill's revenge game.
Oh, all right. Let's talk about it.
The game of the day, the game of the week. I'm so excited for this game.
I do think that is Frank Clark. When is Frank Clark coming back? That's a good question.
I don't know. Because that's kind of when you should be like start maybe betting on the Chiefs to start covering spreads.
They're 1-3 against the spread. I don't know when he's coming back.
So either way, I do think the Bills are going to win this game because I think the revenge factor and also this is one of those games where it's like which team do you trust more to get a stop, and I would put that on the Bills. Yeah, the Chiefs defense is soft.
They're the S-word. I don't want to call them the S-word because I like Tyron Matthew a lot.
And I feel like he's always liable to intercept at least two passes. Full practice today.
Full practice for Frank Clark. Okay, so I might have just hurt myself with that.
The Bills are a more complete team. Yeah, I didn't point out.
Someone pointed this out to me on Monday after our Sunday recap,

but the Eagles also didn't punt last week.

So that tells you where, because we talked about the Chiefs not punting,

that tells you where the Chiefs' defense is when the Eagles did not have to punt either.

So, yeah.

Bills Mafia on Sunday night. Big time Bills Maf time.
I like it too. Okay.
Who is up Hank over. Oh, my over is the Bears Raiders.
Oh, Justin Fields. Another hungry dog.
Hungry, hungry, hungry dog. I will be again.
I like I like it when we can root together. I will be betting on the Bears money line.
I think if they are playing well and they win that game, it's going to be a high-scoring game over 44.5. And that Nagy, in his infinite wisdom, just going as hard as he can for Andy Dalton every single week and then Wednesday being like, Justin Fields is now our starting quarterback.
And credit to Andy Dalton, incredibly nice guy. Called Justin Fields and said, this is your time.
This is your moment. Which, if you remember a month ago, Andy Dalton incredibly nice guy called Justin Fields and said this is your time this is your moment which if you remember like a month ago Andy Dalton said this is my moment this is my time the the the story about like Justin Fields not going out to dinner was so weird yeah he stayed in and watched film Hank his parents went out and celebrated on their own I thought it was weird that it was a story I'm not even saying it was weird that Justin didn't go out I just thought it was weird that it was like a someone asked him right even saying it was weird that Justin didn't go out.
I just thought it was weird that it was like a... Someone asked him.
Right, but then it turned into this national story like, Justin Fields can go to dinner. He cares about football.
You know why, Hank? I know. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's weird that Justin Fields can go out to dinner. I thought it was weird that it was a story that like, you know.
Because people in the media love to say, this guy gets it. If his parents live in Chicago or live near him, not going to dinner one night, who cares? I care.
He cares about football. I think it means that he gets it, Hank.
That's what's important. Also, what's the point in going to dinner if you're a vegan? There's no real point to go to dinner.
French fries. There's nothing that you can get outside of your home is good.
I do like how Matt Nagy has become very quickly the guy that just, whatever the last person in the room with him tells him, that's what he goes out there and does. So they probably have a competition to see, okay, I want him to implement the part of my game plan that I've been passionate about this week, so I'll schedule my meeting with Coach Nagy as close to game time as possible because I can convince him, and he'll feel bad telling me no.
Dude, I remember a few weeks ago when he answered those questions saying, like, Justin Fields is not a question about scheme when you ask about the starting quarterback, and then had someone go back out and re-answer the question afterwards. Like, the an emotional mess he's all over the place I'm happy I'm very very happy that Justin Fields is the starter so I'm going to give Matt Nagy some credit even though it took him a while so I'm not going to bash him for the decision I just think it's very everything is difficult in Hallis Hall right now to like in terms of communication yeah they should have the Bears should have had Matt Nagy do a fake press conference like they had Mark Trestman when they hired Mark Trestman instead of Bruce Arians.
Well, Matt Nagy also said that, I've said this from the beginning, we'll know when he's ready to become the starter. It's like, wait, he's gaslighting America.
Matt Nagy is, that's not what you told us, Matt Nagy. And it also just like, happened overnight yeah he literally said on monday that andy's the start well so i think what happened was during the week he realized that andy dalton this is finally the week that andy dalton uh was officially healthy so maybe on monday dalton wasn't officially healthy yet and the question that nagy was answering was if dalton is healthy is he still the starter and in Nagy's mind, yes.
But then he found out later on that week that now he's actually healthy, so now he has to figure out a lie to tell America of why he's going to Justin Fields now. He also might have just been scared with the fact that he's going to Vegas.
There'll be a lot of Bears fans there. They'll be very drunk and partying all weekend, and if he had Andy Dalton as a starter, his safety would be in question.
Yes, that's true. I think this is going to be the first.
Who have the Raiders played at home so far? Have they played the Ravens week one and they played Dolphins. This will be the first like oh man their home crowd advantage is kind of because I personally know a handful of people who are going out to watch the Bears.
It's going to be a lot of Bears fans there. A lot of Bears fans.
Shout out to Justin Fields, though, saying they asked him what it's like to be preparing to be the starter for a franchise that envisions him as being the starter for 10 or 15 years. And he said, I don't know if we're going to be alive in 10 or 15 years.
Niners got to be regretting passing on them. I mean, that is a stupid question to be like 10 years from now.
Like, what? Yeah. I don't know.
I'm just trying to win one game. All right, Bubba, you're over.
Packers-Bangles over 50 and a half. Okay.
Nice. Yeah, it went with the Billy method.
Yeah. So Packers-Bangles feel like a lot of points? Yeah, it felt like points.
Yeah, it felt like points. The Billy method's doing well right now.
I actually go against my method this week. Oh, okay, shit.
Well, let's get to that in a second. My over is going to be Browns and Chargers, 47.
Oh. I like a lot of points in this game.
I know that there's talk about Baker Mayfield having an injured shoulder. It's his left shoulder that's

injured, his non-throwing shoulder.

And I have some experience in this. I'm the

Carson Wentz of torn labrums.

I've had both of them torn. If

your throwing arm is not damaged,

it really shouldn't affect you that much.

But running... Yeah, running,

you don't want to get hit on it because it'll pop

out maybe. But still,

you can pop it back in pretty easily. But I think

that actually does affect their offense because his

ability to make some plays with his feet

Thank you. You don't want to get hit on it because it'll pop out maybe.
But still, you can pop it back in pretty easily. But I think that actually does affect their offense because his ability to make some plays with his feet is semi-important.
Well, he's going to try to avoid getting hit, definitely. He can still scramble.
But that, like, should I scramble, should I not, I feel like there's this part of him that's like, no, because my shoulder's fucked. He spent like half the game last week scrambling, though, just dancing through the backfield.
So I actually have the under in this game. I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference.
And also, we didn't talk about this on Wednesday's show. Boltman is back.
Yes. Boltman was in attendance, and the full costume, the regalia was there.
I don't know if this is an every week thing, but Boltman has got to be worth at least a touchdown per game. Yes, yes.
Boltman is back. I have the under in this game, so we disagree here.
I just think that both defenses are very, very good, and I'm worried about Baker's shoulder. And yeah, both defenses.
The Browns defense has given up 20 points in the last 10 quarters. They're playing lights out football.
All right, so my over, I'm going with Saints-Washington football team, over 43-and-a-half. I was thinking about it, and this might sound like a Billy method, but who are the two guys right now currently playing quarterback that they'll show on red zone and just be like, fuck it, we're just going to throw it deep and it works.
Yeah. Taylor Heineke and Jameis Winston.
So I think we'll have a few it's a few plays in this game where it's like, well, that didn't really make sense, but it worked out.

I've convinced myself this is the week that the Washington football team

from last year shows up.

Scary Terry.

Yeah.

Best in the league.

Scary Terry.

No drops this year.

He's a beast.

And he makes like at least one catch every single week that it's like,

holy fuck, how did he catch that ball?

Yeah.

I like points over 43 and a half. All right, Billy, tell us.
Walk us through it. 56.5.
Oh, that would be the Chiefs and the Bills. Yeah.
And? As an over. I didn't like that number for an over.
56.5. But you like the teams.
But I like the teams. That's a real house divided situation.
I try not to let the teams influence the number, but I did this time.

Okay.

That's just like a Sunday night.

Let's have a fun game.

I want it to go over.

I want to do it.

It is tough going into a game being like, we need more than eight touchdowns.

Yeah.

That hurts to say, but I will probably take it as well.

I'm going against my method.

Yeah, but it's Sunday night.

It's fun.

Just do it. All right, Jake.
I'm with PFT here against you, Big Cow. Okay.
The Browns and the Chargers. Nice.
The Browns, they laid an egg. I know you were all in on them in that, was it the Vikings game? Yeah.
It was a dumpster fire, so hopefully they're looking to bounce back. Okay.
I don't think that Baker can miss Odell Beckham more than he missed him last week. He might try.
He might, but I don't think it's possible to do that. He might try.
All right, Hank, you're under, and then we'll hit any games we missed. The Dolphins.
Sorry, the Jets-Hawks. Okay.
Same. All right.
The Hawks aren't scoring any points. Hawks, yeah.
Hawks will not score any points in London this week. That's a wake-up, hungover, turn on the game, and hope it's like 10-2, 10-3.
Got it. Maybe 10-1.
I was going to say, they have been woken up. 10-1.
Maybe you're so drunk that you think it's 10-1. It's possible, by the way, for Scorigami.
No, it's not. Safety on a two-point conversion.
No, but that's worth two points. No, it's one.
Is it? I'm pretty sure a safety on a two-point conversion is one. Wait, a safety on a two-point conversion? Yeah.
So if they... They have 98 yards.
What? I think that's one point. Can you find that? Can you confirm that? I knew that.
That's why one points are alive and score gone. I don't think it's ever happened.
I can't believe you guys didn't know that. Yeah, it's never happened.
That's a game that I would expect that if any quarterback could pull that off, it would be Phillip Rivers. I think it has happened on one of those fumble things where the kick was fumbled and then it was kicked.
But it's a two-point. I'm pretty sure it's a two-point.
No, it's a Gommie website. The gist is that it's possible for the defense to score one point on a PAT attempt by getting a safety.
What? That's fucking crazy. That's insane.
Why did they decide to make that rule? And why is it one? Why wouldn't it be two? It should be two. Also, safety should be worth five points.
Holy shit. Safeties are so hard to get.
Make them worth five points. Because if they score, isn't it worth two? Also, for safeties, the rule should be if you end up in the end zone, it be a safety i hate forward progress yes i i hate when they're at like a one inch line where it's like they got clearly tackled he runs out and they all tackle him if you can get if you can push them it should just basically if you can push the ball carrier back behind the line of scrimmage behind the the end zone that's that should be a safe and the rest air on the side like the rest do everything in their power to make sure it's not a safety win.
There was one in the beginning of the year, I feel like it was maybe the Seahawks with Russell Wilson, where it wasn't even close to not being a safety, and they just called it not a safety. He just basically put the ball over the line, and then they're like, all right, the play's dead.
Here's what they should do. If your shoulder pads land in the end zone, it's a safety.
No, if you're just down in the end zone. Yeah, when I see contact with your body happen in the end zone,

that to me is a safety.

That's a good defensive play.

If your knee's down, if you get pushed back,

you could get out of the end zone,

but if you end up in the end zone, it should be a safety.

That's what I'm saying.

Where you land should matter for something in that case.

I feel like refs don't like calling safeties

because for some reason it's a super hard thing to do for their job. It's just a theory.
That's so weird. I think they do because it's fun.
No, calling a safety probably sucks. If you're jacked up, if you're Ed Hockley, it looks sweet.
For the scorecard, I don't know. All right, learn something new every day.
That's a crazy stat. He can score one point.
All right, PFT, 10-1 is the start of the Jets-Hawks game. Okay, this is my under.
Yeah. I'm going to go Eagles at Panthers.
Eagles at Panthers. All right.
So we haven't talked about this game. Yeah, we have not.
I'm pissed off at Adam Schefter going to this game because of the Stephon Gilmore news. Yeah.
Got traded from the Patriots. Adam Schefter, everybody at ESPN was saying, guess what? He's going to be a free agent.
And then he's one of those free agents where literally every team, no matter who you rooted for, everybody was like, oh, we could take a shot at him. We could use some help at cornerback.
Everybody got their hopes up about it. And then guess what happens like two hours later? Turns out he was traded for a six-round pick.
Yes. yeah and fans of every team are like we would have given up so much more yes than a six round pick you can't do that adam you cannot report that a player is going to be a free agent and then take it away from us and tell us that he's traded to the panthers it was very very mean it's fucked up very very mean um this is a like who's who's gonna be i don't even know it's not lose or leave town because it's too early in the season, this is a, like, who's going to be, I don't even know.
It's not lose or leave town because it's too early in the season. But this is an are you for real game because, and it's different levels of for real.
Because if the Eagles win, it's are you for real? Are you going to be like one of those teams that's hanging around maybe 8-9, 9-8? If the Panthers win this game, I think they're back on track to maybe being a decent team yeah they could be a playoff team and i'm gonna come across i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna come out of this game thinking the loser stinks yeah you know what i mean and you're probably going to be right about it yeah this is like the eagles chance to save their season yeah i think do you stink yeah if they if they lose this game it's gonna be it's gonna be some tough days ahead yeah eagles fans all right so my under is that Chargers-Browns game. Go ahead, Billy.
So this one also goes against my method. Oh boy.
Patriot-Saxons? 39.5. Oh, Steelers? Broncos-Steelers, yeah.
Broncos-Steelers. Just like anything the 30s shouldn't be an under.
If Drew Locke is playing this game, though, I feel like it could be 10-3. And also, but pick sixes.
Yeah, you're right. We'll have to run the math by Pete Prisco about that.
What's the point of having a method? Well, you explained it last week. Not but seven days later.
How did Billy do, by the way, Jake, on the ones that he was trying to win and the ones he was trying to lose? Last week, he missed the over, hit the under. The week before, he hit both.
No, but remember he said that this is a game he's intentionally trying to lose? I don't know. You don't have that noted.
I lost that one as I planned, but then the Jets won, which I did not plan. Got it.
So what's your plan loser this week? I'm trying to lose all of them because I'm getting too high in the rankings. I could slip into second easily, so I'm trying to lose all of them this week.
Okay. Got it.
So that's why you're going against your method. That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense. Getting way too high.
Yes, yes. All right, Jake, finish this off.
I'm with Hank and Liam. I'm calling this a Lunder.
Oh. What do we think? That's great.
are out. That's awesome, Jake.
I love it. That was disgusting, Jake.
You don't like it? BFT likes it. Of course BFT likes it.
That was great, man. Because now we have something worse than Physicule Elliot to be said on this podcast.
You can only use it twice a year, though. A Lunder.
I'm it's awesome. I'm going to be deported.
I'm going to have to bet the Lunder on it just because of that. Oh, man.
Lunder. Barstool Sportsbook.
Lunder 45. Lunder, yeah.
It's like a gut punch when that happens. Just right in my stomach.
Just lost some air. What if it hits? That's how Houdini died.
It's legendary. It is.
It is.. It's absolutely legendary.
It's already legendary. Where were you? All right.
Games we didn't hit. Patriots-Texans.
Is Patriots just going to kill them? You think? Ah! Ah, Texans get paid to play football, too. Yeah, now I'm like, maybe not.
Although Davis Mills and that long neck going against Bill Belichick. I mean, Patriots lose this one.
Bill Belichick, hot seat? Ooh. If they did lose this one, Felger would probably say it.
Hot seat. And then the Cowboys-Giants game, which should actually be a great game.
I was actually thinking about this before doing some prep for this show. If we did BCS rankings for the teams right now, I think the Super Bowl would maybe be the Cardinals versus the Cowboys.

Because the Cowboys have the best loss.

They do have a pretty...

They have the best loss.

An outstanding loss.

They lost by two points to the box on opening night.

Their loss got worse because their loss also lost to the Rams.

Yeah, that's true.

But they also have one of the best wins at L.A. for the Chargers.
Yeah, but when you say that the Chargers have the best loss then because they lost the number one BCS team, the Cowboys. But the Chargers, who have the Chargers beaten? They've beaten the Washington football team.
This is the worst. This is the worst bit going on.
It's not a bit. We're actually talking about it.
Washington football team, the Raiders, and the Chiefs. That's a power win against the Chiefs.
Yeah, that is a power win. Especially if the Chiefs win on Sunday night.
Interesting. That win becomes a whole lot better.
Someone on TikTok did map out that the Jets are technically better than the Bills by all that logic. The Cowboys also beat a 3-0 Panthers team, which they were ranked top 10 going in.
Yeah, but the Panthers, they might not be for real if they lose the Eagles. But we don't know.
I'm saying right now. Right now.
Right now, because they beat a 3-0 team, and they beat a 3-1 team, and they lost to the Super Bowl champs on opening night. And they're far away from their only loss.
I think the Cowboys might be number two in the BCS. You could make an argument of the Cowboys.
They're in the conversation. They might be the Cincinnati actually that's complained about getting left out.
No one respects the Dallas Cowboys. I think we should do this every week.
The BCS rankings. Of the entire NFL.
Have you guys thought about the possibility of having the Chargers against the Rams in the Super Bowl in Los Angeles? That would be crazy. The ultimate loser leaves town game.
Yeah, and there would still be no home field advantage whatsoever. That would be incredible uh all right anything else if like

nobody went to the game until halftime everyone's late getting there yeah i want to correct myself

on the one point safety it has happened once before in college so you block the extra point

yeah and then you're trying to go the other way for two points but you go backwards and get

that is one point one point safety so you get safety yeah but that own, that is one point. That becomes a point for you.
One point safety. So you get safetied.
Yeah, but that also means that the game can't ever be 1-0. Because you have to score the touchdown to take the extra point.
But it can't be 10-1. Yeah, see, one point.
No, no, it can't. It can't be 10-1.
It can't be your first point. It could be like 6-2.
That could be the start of a game. Well, 6 wait oh they got the one point so it just becomes a so the extra point is good uh got it origami you can do six one you can't do seven one no you can't do six one because that would be your extra point that gets blocked after you score a touchdown but the other team gets the point Yeah.
Yeah, he's saying the other team gets the point. If you recover it and go back into your own end zone? Alright, alright, alright.
No, I think you're wrong. Jets vs.
Falcons. Falcons score a touchdown.
It's 6-0. On the extra point, the Jets block the field goal and then score, that's two points,

there's no situation where they could block the field goal and get one point, right?

Correct.

What Jake is saying...

I'm just reading the pro football talk.

If the defense gets the ball on the field to play on a conversion attempt

and the defensive player takes the ball into his own end zone and is tackled,

the result will be a one-point safety. The offensive team will get one point.
So it would be 7-0. It would be 7-0 at the point.
You can't have one point scored in football. I don't know why.
Scorigami has fucked you. It's betrayed you.
Your number one love has betrayed you. You've gotten too deep into it.
You're like Al G. Rhythm.
Wait, but I... Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm trying to stick off. I don't know.
Okay. This is good, though, because this makes the BCS thing look good.
I actually like that conversation. Yeah, the BCS conversation is good compared to this conversation.
Either way, we know one point safety is a thing. Yes, it is.
You guys want to talk about whether or not you can dunk a free throw? Ooh, yeah. Let's get into it.
All right, Billy, what were you going to say? One last thing before we get to fantasy. I was just going to say if you return 100 yards back, then the kicker picks it up and gets tackled into his own end zone.
I think that's one point for the other team. Oh, yeah.
That'd be crazy. No, I think that'd be two points still.
That's like Mississippi State had like a third and 90. Remember that? Yeah.
Against Louisiana Tech. That was awesome.
They just kept on fumbling backwards. Put on an extra point.
All right, fantasy fuckboys. Fantasy fuckboys.
Yeah, we're back, boys. What up? What up? What up? What up? What up?.
What? What? Been watching Wu-Tang. My name's Giuseppe Guatemala.
What's up, Giuseppe? My stardom is heckling. Yeah, buddy.
You guys see this fucking pussy from New Jersey? No. He was at the Sox game.
Big pussy? He brought a fucking article. I thought I shot him in the basement.
Turns out he was my nephew. About how he watched Red Sox fans harassing Garrett Cole by holding up a container of spite attack and a Kermit the Fraud puppet.
And he was all butthurt about it. No, no, my butt.
Wow. If you can't heckle in the fans, what's the point of paying for a ticket? For real.
For real, for real. My sit-em, let me pull up my notes.
It's Juan Soto. Soto.

Do you see this fucking pussy gets eliminated from the postseason and still shows up?

We're dropping a lot of pee words over there.

I remember back in the high day.

We got eliminated.

We went to the fucking bar and drowned our sorrows and wish we could have won the whole thing, but no.

Or the golf course.

Yeah, he's out there fucking cheering like he's a fan.

Whatever happens to support your teammates?

Being a good citizen. Not a teammate anymore.
Disgusting. My sleeper, Damian Harris.
Going up against the Texans. I think the Pats are going to blow him out.
My sleeper last week, maybe the best sleeper in the history of this fucking segment. Two for two again.
Who was it last week? Damian Harris. Coral Patterson.
Oh, that was sick. Wow.
Hey. All right.
What's up? This is Nick Sirian. How's it going? Hey.
What's up? Hey. Hey.
Get that highlight out of your visor. Hey.
You know what I'm saying? I'm starting Jake Elliott. I'm starting Jake Elliott.
He's a kicker. You know like at the field goal? I kick another field goal.
You know like at to field goal. You like it to field goal.
You like it to field goal. Hey, mama, make it to field goal.
Treat the point. Hey, in Italy, we have a strong tradition of kicking the ball over the upright.
Roberto Basio. You don't like it to field goal? I make it to field goal.
I make it to do spicy. I'm sitting.
Do spicy. I'm sitting cancer.
I'm sitting cancer. Yeah, fuck cancer.
Fuck cancer. Fuck you, cancer.
You shithead. You're unnoticed, you pussy.
You fucking pussy. You see how many different colors? It's not just titties.
Not just titties anymore. It's all cancers.
All cancers matter. And we're going after all of them one by one.
You've seen the highlighters on the shirts, on the hats. Roger Dell is single-handedly choking out cancer with his bare hands.
Donating 3% of proceeds to actual cancer. That's 3% more than you.
We don't billionaires shame, Hank. Get a colonoscopy, Hank.
Hey, cancer. Now you just can't leave.
Cancer. Fuck off, cancer.
Colonoscopy. Get your butthole checked.
Shout out Urban Meyer. My sleeper, I'm sleeping El Tren.
That's right. United States men's national team, soccer team.
That's right. We care about football over here in the United States.
El Tren, guess what, Jamaica? You reggae boys, you fucked up. You fucked up, reggae boys.
Play a real sport. Yeah, we got football on.
Football. All right, Mike.
What's up, guys? It's Giancarlo Stantonio. Stantonian.

Stantonian.

Stantonio.

My stardom is Josh Allen.

People forget he's got a rocket arm.

He's going to show out on Sunday night.

I'm so excited for our boy Joshy to get it fucking on.

National TV audience, this is where you show up.

You're making the scroll.

My sit-em is Bronxie the turtle.

Fuck that turtle.

Turtle soup. Where the fuck is an Aguayo when you need him That turtle didn't win the Bronx Bombers Shit Shit That turtle is not fit to carry turntles And my sleeper is the 15% of colleges That said that they would hire Urban Meyer next year So shout out those 15% that stand by their man Yeah Yeah Liberty University They in.
How we doing? How we doing? It's Rigatoni Risotto. Oh, nice.
Riggy, riggy. My stardom is Zach Wilson because he was the rookie of the week.
Was he? Let's go Jets. Rookie of the week.
That's the rookie of the week. Is that Rigatoni's rookie of the week? No, that's Pepsi, bro.
Oh, fuck. That's Pepsi.
Oh, fuck. You say Ricky of the Week? Yeah, no.
Ricky of the Week. The Ricky of the Week.
Yeah, then we got my sit-em. It's the fucking Lunder.
Because Jack Wilson's going to throw so many. I thought this was going to be one of those fantasy.
Anyway, my sleeper. Live look at the Lunder Taker.
I'm back, baby. My sleeper.
Squid Game. Low-key.
Kind of a great show. Hype.
Yeah, you watched it instead of watching your Bronx Bombers, some fan. Pretty violent, though.
It's a pretty underground take you got there. A lot of paint jobs.
A lot of paint jobs. Don't get on a limb there.
A lot of paint jobs. Yeah.
That's mine. That's my guys.
Sorry. I love that story that 85% of college ADs wouldn't take Urban Meyer.

So it's just like, this is how many people will lie on record.

Yeah, it's absolute 100% bullshit.

A million percent bullshit. Yeah, the ADs that won't take Urban Meyer are the AD of University of Alabama, the AD of Clemson.

If your team is currently good, you would not take them. But yeah, if Urban Meyer could guarantee you a trip to a BCS bowl game, a million percent would take them.
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Alright, here he is, Tyson Fury. Tyson, what's up? The sky, motherfuckers.
All right, let's do it. Let's hop right in.
So we have a very special guest. It is Tyson Fury, the champ.
He has his big fight on Saturday night, the trilogy, against Deontay Wilder. It's great to have you on.
So, I love this fight, not because there's history and it's the trilogy, but I feel like there's actual bad blood here. Do you fight better when you have that anger? Do you really hate this guy? I don't have any anger.
I don't hate the guy. The guy's a pathetic loser, so I couldn't have any anger with him at all.
I like that that so i mean you even he's trying to play mind games with you by being a little bit more silent in the lead up to this and you're not gonna let that bother you so it's all all irrelevant because when it comes down to the night all of talking doesn't mean anything i i can never be matched with uh talking in boxing never never in a million years could I ever be matched. I've never, ever found me equal.
I can never even compete with me on the stage of press conferences and talking about boxing and stuff. But it all means absolute zero.
When you get in a boxing ring, you could talk 500 million people with you. It doesn't mean anything because at the end of the day, you're going to go in there fight and that's it yeah so so mentally once you step into the ring do you do you go to a place of anger are you calm are you are you thinking about your tactics or do you kind of black out and just you know you trust your instincts and fight there's no anger i think the man who has anger in a boxing match will lose yeah this is not an angry um situation to be in it's a a sporting contest um and i've done all my training when i get in there i just do what i gotta do be relaxed and enjoy it yeah you look like you're in incredible shape um in terms of the second fight uh was that the most pathetic excuse ever that he said that uh his the the garb that he was wearing slowed his legs down uh in his entrance i'm not sure there's been a lot of pathetic excuses over the years from people who lost fights but i think that's got to be up there one of his many 50 excuses anyway so we'll see yeah let's do a quick ranking of his most pathetic excuses top three most pathetic excuses from deontay Wilder.
I think the best one was his trainer drugged his water. That was a cracker.
That's a good one. It's like a racehorse.
That's a really good one. It's not his fault.
Somebody slipped him a Mickey. Yeah.
And then the second one was I had metal objects in my gloves. Okay.
That's good. Yep.
And then his third one would be um the costume was too heavy that he wore to the ring i actually i do think that the costume made a difference especially if you look at what he did versus how you entered the ring you literally got carried into the ring you didn't have any miles at all on your legs that's smart he walked through i think the entire mgm casino floor i think he did a lap with the pit bosses wearing that giant robe and then came in so i could see how he'd be tired he did a half marathon basically yeah yeah i can make a point for that yeah um i had a question about number one the first fight you guys had together uh in the 12th round when you got knocked down it almost looked like there was a second where you're like i know know I have a few seconds here. Let me compose myself.
Or is that all instincts when you get back up? Or were you like, all right, give me like two seconds, and then I'm good to go? Yeah, I think it's just instinct. When you get hit and knocked down, I don't think you know what you're doing at some point of it.
You just get up, and that's it. If you can get up, you get up.
And if you can't, then you can't. And that's it.
Most of it's instinct, though yeah because i just i i love that moment because it did and maybe i was thinking about it too much but it really did feel like you're like all right i'm good here we go i'm fucking good and then you get back up and it was i mean it was an incredible incredible moment yeah yeah it was a credit it was an incredible moment looking back on it it was definitely an incredible moment um definitely go down in history as they're the best get-up

off the floor ever yeah what um what what went through your mind when you were in the ring with him and you you decided to to taste his blood was that just like instinct like in the moment you're gonna do it or was that to intimidate pre-fighting meeting i wanted to taste his blood and i got the opportunity and just did it why not yeah what yeah what it tastes like did it taste like your own blood it tastes like the blood of a coward oh so that means like you you've tasted blood of cowards before only deontay wilder oh i like that I like that um the uh the press conference you guys did in the summer you had a five minute stare down uh where you just basically it was like a staring contest Deontay left before you how long could you have lasted in that stare down as long as it took to get the victory it was it was I'm not joking when I say this if you if you haven't seen it it is all of five minutes of them just staring at each other and tyson won that and it was incredible all right rob you're right um all right so i i know you got to go in a second i had a quick question about your uh your brother i was actually at the fight in cleveland i was part of the broadcast what do you think of his performance i think he did what he had to do got the w and uh on to the next one yeah so who's the next one gonna be well we're hoping it's gonna be jake paul so i've heard all his talking off the two of them i want to see a fucking fight right how do you think that ends up what do you think that fight looks like i think it'll be a big build up a lot of talk and a lot of promotional stuff. But I think in the end, Tommy knocks

him clean out.

Do you respect what Jake Paul has done

in the ring, building himself up into a fighter?

He seems like he's taking it seriously.

Not just the fighting side of things,

because they're just playboxers,

aren't they? But to bring a load

of people to the boxing, a load of views and stuff,

that's pretty good. That's very

good, actually. To bring the attention that they brought into the game, all these YouTubers, TikTokers and famous people.
That's good for the real sport to boxing. Never mind all this play about boxing and celebrity boxing and looking, anybody can be a boxer.
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's great for the sport, but, you know, it's definitely a playtime pantomime stuff.
A lot of talking on TV and media stuff. It attracts people to it.
People are interested in all that rubbish. Fast forward to after this fight's over.
Let's just say that you win. You get a knockout.
Are you still thinking about maybe going to MMA after? No. All I'm thinking about is winning the fight and then going home taking the kids trick-or-treating and having a nice Christmas and then we'll see what happens after all of that that's pretty good I mean that sounds like a pretty good fall especially after after winning a fight now after like directly after the fight um it's got to be you got to feel like you can drink a million beers because you have all the adrenaline and everything going through you from a big fight right yeah how many what's the most amount of beers you've drank after winning a fight i don't really drink after fights to be honest okay i'm not in the mood drinking and with all the adrenaline that's running through your body i think it's nearly impossible to get drunk after a fight uh-huh yeah i actually i go if i do go out for a for a drink after everybody i'll have a couple of lights and then that's me done i'll go back to the room not interested me for the first two weeks after a big fight i'm on a total downer interesting so it's just like uh like everything builds up and then you're for two weeks you're kind of just fading back and not feeling yourself? Yeah, for sure.
The higher the highs, the lower the lows. That's for sure.
Yeah. All right, so I know you've got to go.
What is your official prediction of when you're going to knock out Deontay Wilder on Saturday night? Also, by the way, let me just throw this out there. Incredible.
This fight card's incredible because all the undercards are heavyweights as well. So it's to be awesome to watch and there's going to be a ton of knockouts and i'm very very excited but tell us when you're going to actually knock him out when i start hitting him in the face and he doesn't hit back that's the time he's going to go down okay i remember when we do you know whether it's round one round 10 round 11 round two whatever it's going to be as long as i get the W, I don't care what round it is.
Yeah. I remember we were watching the last fight and when he started to bleed out of his ear, that was a good indication that you, you know, you smelled blood in the water.
You smelled coward's blood in the water. Would you say that like the ear is the worst, the worst hole on your face to bleed out of? Not sure, you know.
I've had plenty of blood come out of me from my eyes eyebrows nose everything he is so it's all pretty bad to be honest it's all pretty gruesome when you're the one who's taking the punishment right yeah right yes well uh best of luck on uh saturday night uh we look forward to uh watching it's going to be awesome i also just got a text that is your brother stuck on a Spirit Airlines flight right now? Yeah. What's going on with that? Why is he flying Spirit? He's actually stuck on a Spirit Airlines right now.
I think he's somewhere in on the way here. He flies Spirit because he's such a humble type of a guy who likes to be a man of the people and fly with the normal people and all that.
You know, not all of us are stuck up wankers who need to fly in a private jet to prove that there are somebody. That just proves you're a fucking idiot who wants to spend your money on something stupid.
I like that. I like that.
I'm guessing Deontay Walder. I fly on a plane called ryanair that's the cheapest you can

fly on in england and when the taxman looks at my records they laugh and say this is ridiculous a heavyweight champion of the world flies on the cheapest airfield flights you can but guess what in 10 15 years when all the boxing is done and all these idiots are all flat broke working in a petrol station somewhere pumping gas,

I'll still be a multimillionaire.

Because it's not how much you can earn, it's how much you can save. That's a fact.
That's smart. You don't get rich through earning millions.
You get rich through saving. Have you allowed yourself to just upgrade to the window seat so that you can get a little bit more legroom?

I don't like upgrading.

I'll just sit in the cheapest seat possible.

Because you know what?

It's all the same.

We're going to arrive at the same time.

It doesn't matter.

That actually makes me even more confident about Saturday night because it's the old, I think, like Teddy Atlas quote maybe.

You don't do road work in silk pajamas.

You're keeping the grit about you, and that means that you're hungry for more listen there's an old cliche like all these boxers and famous people sports people when they make a few few dollars the first thing they want to do is go and flash it put it on the neck or the wrist or whatever and after it's all finished, 90% of them end up broke.

So, you know, I'm not interested in wearing a flash watch or a chain or something to make myself look posh.

I'm interested in actually living the life of an athlete,

training hard, and that's all I'm interested in.

I don't care about the rest of the stuff.

I love it.

You'll have more money to spend on Jagerbombs for Man U fans. Yes.
England fans, that was, actually, not Man U fans. All right, Tyson, thanks so much.
Best of luck, and hopefully you stay champ. God bless everybody.
Bye-bye. All right, thanks.
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And now here's Ezekiel Mitchell. And now for something completely different.
All right. We now welcome on a very special guest.
Actually, the second pro bull rider we've ever had on the show. We had Jess Lockwood on.
Do you know Jess? Yeah, he's all right. Okay.
all right. So it's Ezekiel Mitchell.
We're very excited to have you on. You've got a big event.
I don't know when this is going to run, but you do have a big event. You're in New York.
You're in person. This is going to be great.
So first of all, how is the season going? Let's start there, and then we'll work our way to basically asking you crazy questions about bulls and possibly bull testicles. Well, honestly, if I had to say something about this season, I've learned a lot about myself.
It's been a season full of minor injuries that I haven't had to deal with in the past, so it's really kind of weighed on me, but we're getting things turned around now, so it's all good. Yeah, what do you got right now? What are you dealing with? Give us a rundown.
So earlier this year I had a pulled groin. Okay.
And you can't ride bulls with that at all. I learned that very quickly.
Mm-hmm. Then broke a rib.
How many? Kind of a rib doctor, if you want me to look at. I don't really even know.
I didn't go to the hospital. I just know sports med told me it was broke.
There's nothing they can do about a broken wrist. No, no.
And then now my wrist has been pretty janky, my riding wrist. Oh, no.
Yeah, janky wrist. Did the doctor tell you that one? Yeah, that was like the exact medical term for it.
Janky wrist. Janky wrist.
Yeah. Now, when you can see a doctor, are they the same doctors that treat the bulls, too? Is it one guy who's like, because obviously, you know, when you have an on-site physician or, like, for, like, football, let's say, there's a trainer.
Is there a trainer that comes out if the Bulls get injured, too? Yeah, they have an on-call vet. One of the guys, I don't know which one it is, but he's over all that, and he'll have a bunch of guys come in, or he'll have them all on call.
So if anything happens, then a vet's within 15, 20 minutes. I feel like I would trust a vet more than a real doctor.
Well, because vets know a vet can operate on a sheep. It can do, like, a frog.
It can do a bird. They have to know everything.
A doctor, it's like you're kind of lazy if you just want to work on humans. a doctor like you have to doctors rely on the humans telling them what's wrong a vet like you just can stand there and a vet can be like you got a janky wrist yeah exactly i can see that exact medical term so when you have a janky wrist or when you have an actual injury that you're dealing with do you think that the bull can tell no no i don't think i know.
They're pretty smart, but I don't think they can tell. They can tell more so if you're nervous or if things don't feel right with you.
They kind of feed off your energy. Yeah, that's about it.
So when they feed off your energy, you have to get yourself into a calm place before you get it? Or do you get amped up when you get on the bull? I try to just be confident. I don't really try to get myself too amped up.

I'm already like an amped up person as it is.

So I guess I'm more of a try to calm myself down

and that way I can actually focus on the things that I'm supposed to be doing.

Yeah, so when we had Jess on, I don't think we got into this,

but the process of a competition, I'm very interested in this.

So you show up and there's a computer system that just randomly decides

which bowl you're be riding that day? Is that how it works? Exactly. So is there any type of scouting that you have done where you're like, All right, if I get this bull, I know exactly what I'm going to do.
If I get this bull, I know exactly what I'm going to do. Do you have that knowledge of all the bulls on the roster? For the most part, we kind of do.
So we have a website that's called Pro Bull Stats and you can type in any name of any bull that you'll have for that weekend. Actually, you can look up the riders as well, but you just look up, say this weekend, I don't know my bull's name.
I forgot already. Oh, you've already got it picked.
Yeah, so they pick them on like Wednesday. Okay.
And then we'll know our first round at least, and then tomorrow they'll pick sometime tonight, I guess. Who's the baddest bull currently? Currently, it's a bull called Whoop-A.
Whoop-A? Whoop-A. How do you spell it? I think it's W-O-O-P-A-A.
Okay, whoop-a. And why is that bull better than all the other bulls? Because he's produced the biggest numbers.
He jumps the highest, kicks the hardest, and he's just an incredible animal athlete. So has the Sabermetrics analytical revolution come to bull riding? Because that's always, you know, like we obviously had it with baseball, seemed like the first sport.
Are there guys who are crunching the numbers on like velocity of kicks and jumps and like torque and all these things for different bulls? I think they tried to do that, but it's kind of hard to track all that as of now.

But for the most part, we just have judges that have been trained to pretty much look

and pick apart what bulls are supposed to look like.

So I forgot that it's judged,

so if you're on a bull that might be deemed weaker,

do you get judged differently?

The bull will get judged differently. You still have to ride him, and you have to be in control.
The better you ride him, the better off he can be. It's like you play who you play like in college football.
If you schedule a good team, they're number two in the country, you beat them, you can't help it if they go on these three games. What if you walk out and the bull's just not feeling it that day, and don't even buck? They just gotta walk out and just chill.
Do you get points because you didn't get technically knocked off? Yeah, you'll get points, but they'll give you a re-ride. So, you'll get an opportunity to get on another Bull, and that Bull is probably gonna have his day.
Does that happen, though? Is there ever a day where you get on a Bull and the Bull's just like, yeah, I'm not I don't really feel like doing this right now. Yeah, yeah.
Last weekend, I got on a bull that he just wasn't feeling that he's a really good bull. He just decided, he was like, hey, I don't know, the crowd's not good enough for me.
I don't know what he was thinking, but he was like, yeah. Is there ever any PED accusation, but like reverse, where somebody dopes up a bull before they get on? Maybe like blow some smoke in his ear.
No, I don't think so. For the most part, they just feed him really well and then try to let him figure it out from there.
They can't do much but let him buck. So wait, I'm looking right now.
Dillinger was the No. 1 bull of all time? I thought it was Bodacious.
I've heard Bodacious. Yeah, Bodacious is my goat.
Oh, Bodacious is No. 2 on this ranking.
Dillinger's No. 1.
What do you think? Are you a Dillinger guy? I'd be a Dillinger guy. Really? Yeah, as far as what a guy would want to see out of a buck and bull as a rider, I think that Dillinger was a way better bull.
I don't know what's behind this algorithm, but right now I'm looking at it. Dillinger was a 91.14 on the power rating, and Bodacious was only a 71.
So Dillinger, and now do people like, obviously the career span of a bull rider is not super long, right? It's like 10 years maybe? Yes. So you don't compete with anyone who was on Dillinger back in the day, but have you talked to anyone who rode him? Oh, yeah.
We talk to those guys all the time. Really? J.W.w hart he he's a stock contractor now owns his own set of bulls and uh he was one of the guys i believe he actually wrote him or he didn't maybe okay is it a consensus that bulls are getting tougher or bulls getting easier right bulls are getting tougher i mean yeah it's uh it's just like the horse racing industry like they bred faster horses they're breeding bulls to harder.
And that's where we're finding a lack in actually getting more bull riders into the sport. Everybody made that transition into getting better bucking bulls because everybody wants a bull that can go to the PBR finals or the NFR.
So now the kids that are learning, they're having to learn on a lot higher scale instead of just bulls that just tweet her out there and you can build confidence and build a know-how. I was looking at the rankings actually a couple weeks ago.
I saw that there was the battle for the crown and Wupa is the world number one. World number two is chiseled.
But he's not far behind. The average bull score is a 46.45 for Wupah, and it's 46.02 for Chiseled.

So, I mean, do you have a bull that you ride and you kind of get along with that you can kind of vibe off each other a little bit better than somebody else might?

Yeah, I guess so.

There's a few bulls like that.

I've been known to kind of get past some of the ones a lot of people don't like

like uh there's a bull good night roba show up until last year uh jose victor lemme our number one right now uh he was the only one that had rode him and then the following day i rode him um and then there was another bull called zurro before i got on him in his professional career he had probably 50 or or so outs or more than that, and he had only been ridden four times, and then I was the next guy to ride him. So I don't know.
I tend to get along with some of the more ones that people don't like. Yeah, I like that.
So I was reading an article about you this morning. What is it melding? Because obviously PBR feels like the audience is more rural, more country, even though you guys do compete in big cities.
You are a younger guy on TikTok, on Instagram, on Twitter. I heard an interview where you're talking about you want to be in movies.
Is there any pushback on that? Are people like, oh, why is this guy on TikTok? Like, we don't't really understand this i don't know if there is i really don't care i mean yeah it doesn't bother me none and if they knew anything that was good for them they'd just sit back and relax and enjoy it because uh if we want to continue to grow this sport there has to be some kind of you know growth besides just in the western industry we're just such a a small population of this country and of the world, so why not try to take it to mainstream media? You've got to meet the audience where they are sometimes instead of letting them find you. You've got to go out there and be proactive about it.
So for you, how did you get into bull riding? Because it seems like a sport that you have to be very crazy i was gonna say a little bit crazy you have to be

actually certifiably insane to want to do it so the first time you looked at a bull you were like i want to be on on the back of that animal or what was that like yeah i don't know man from the time that i was a kid i knew i wanted to be a cowboy and my dad he didn't want me to ride bulls but I don't know eventually

God has his way of making things

Come full circle I wanted to be a cowboy. And my dad, he didn't want me to ride bulls.
But I don't know, eventually God has his way of making things come full circle, I guess, to what you want to do. And I ended up just starting to ride bulls.
I don't know how it really happened. It just happened.
You don't know how you just ended up on a bull one day? Yeah. You looked around, you're like, wow, this is fun.
My dad would be pissed at me right now. Yeah.
Oh, he was there, it was just like I entered what they call a play day back in Texas. This is like youth rodeo, a bunch of, like, rodeo events.
And they had the steer ride, and my dad was like, oh, it's a steer. Like, it's not a real bull.
It's okay. So I entered that one time, and then I found out there was another rodeo that was, like, 30 minutes down the road from the house.
And I tried to enter to enter that one it was a youth rodeo as well but they told me I was too old for the steer riding so I had to go to peewee bulls and my dad was like oh well the guy on the phone's like oh it's just like steers are just a little bit bigger and they're gonna buck more like wolves and he was like all right cool and then eventually it just snowballed and how How big is peewee bull it all depends there's some peewee bulls that are probably about the size of the bulls we get on now they just don't buck hard you know they were just kind of rejects they found their place i guess you know not every bull can be a pbr bucking bull like over a thousand pounds sometimes yeah over Yeah. That's a very misleading name for those bulls.
Yeah. They'd probably be more pissed off that they're getting emasculated like that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Peewee bull. And some of them are teeny tiny, but for the most part, yeah, they all range in size.
It just depends on how hard they buck. So when did you realize that you were really good at it? I don't know.
For the longest, I sucked. I sucked.
That was terrible.

Because that seems, bull

riding seems like the one thing. If you suck,

there is no reason to keep doing it.

Right? It's

dangerous, and you suck?

I lucked up

a few times whenever I was younger and rode

some pretty nice bulls, and

I just was determined that I

was like, I can do this on a consistent basis. And whenever I left high school, when I graduated high school, I left home and never went back, and I crashed on buddy's couches and just kept riding bulls for about a whole year.
That's all I pretty much did was ride bulls. People would pay me to come get on their bulls.
Eventually, a guy looked at me.

He took bulls to the PBR, and I'd go get on for them 50 bucks a head.

He was like, you realize last week or a few weeks ago, this bull was on tour,

and they couldn't even ride him two seconds.

You just rode him for 50 bucks.

He was like, what are you doing?

Get out of here.

What were you doing?

What is that setup where you're riding a bull for 50 bucks a head?

They're just asking you to go. How does that work? Yeah, so bulls need outs, too.
They need practice just like people do. So, like, to get them tuned up or get their muscles working right, they'll get somebody to come get on them.
And I was that guy. And our director of livestock, Cody Lambert, he'd tell those stock contractors down in Texas, he was like, well, they'll send him a video on their bulls a buck off a guy really quick and they'll be like if you really want to get a bull sent over here get a guy like ezekiel or somebody get on and then we'll bring them so i started that that was pretty much my job it was like a little business for me i'd just go get on a few bulls for 50 bucks a head make make $200, $300, and go rodeo on the weekends.
That's crazy. What was the most bulls you rode in a day? The most bulls I've ever got on a day was at a bull sale in Fort Worth, Texas, and I think it was 23.
Holy shit. Oh, my God.
Yeah. How many times did you get thrown? Probably about 10.
Okay. 10 for 10.
Whoa. I thought you were going to say 23.

I was like, oh my God.

No, I didn't get it.

Is that a world record?

I don't know what it is.

There's got to be a world record listed somewhere.

Most bulls.

It is crazy, too, that you kept doing this sport

despite the fact that you sucked at it.

But I imagine that a lot of people that are at the top of the level

in bull riding,

probably, you know, you don't get on a bull for the first time

and you know how to do it immediately. You know, it takes trial and error.
like being a pilot where like if you're a shitty pilot you're probably not going to fly that long but if you're if you're a bull you can learn from your mistakes you can move on so at what point where you know you were getting 50 bucks a head for people you were breaking these bulls or riding these bulls giving them some practice when did you decide that you were going to, you know, turn pro?

I don't know.

I guess I just started hanging out with some all right people.

And they were like, hey, let's go enter some of these, like, lower-level PBRs.

And I was like, all right, cool.

And I started going on those.

And, like, within the first few that I went to,

I think I finished third and fourth at one, finished second at another,

and then another second. And then I was just like was just like oh hey i can probably do this and then i went off to college and started college rodeo and made the college finals twice and then i was like i need to take this serious full-time they have college teams like for universities what's the best school yeah What's the best school? I think last year it was Tarleton State University.

Tarleton State?

Okay. They have college teams for universities? What's the best school? What's the best school?

I think last year it was Tarleton State University.

Tarleton State?

Yeah, in Stephenville, Texas.

I think that was who it was last year.

I want to say they made the NCAA tournament one time in the last few years.

Did they, Jake?

They just became D1, I think.

Okay, they just became D1.

All right, that's what it is.

We basically base all of our knowledge of schools on gambling.

So I was like, I've heard of Tarleton State somewhere.

What are some of the other big names, like the dynasties, the Blue Bloods in bull riding? Sam Houston? Sam Houston State is a big one, a huge one. Texas A&M is a huge one.
Cal Poly? They don't get all the way on top of the bull. They stop about halfway up the back.
They ride them in a different way in Texas. They're weirdos.
They're more of a sheep riding school. There's a bunch of big schools.
I think Texas Tech has a rodeo team. Cal Poly in California.
Montana State. There's quite a few schools that actually have rodeo teams.
Can't think of all of them right now. I'd have to think, so obviously you're an African-American in a pretty predominantly white sport.
Have you noticed that you've been a role model to a lot of kids now? Because that's got to be really rewarding. Yeah, no, that's kind of one of the biggest things I set out to do in my career is try to make a difference in people's lives.

I mean, the gold buckles and the 90-point rides and everything else is cool. But if I can influence somebody and make a footprint on history and let people know they can do whatever the heck they want to do, then I'm doing my job.
Yeah, I do think representation matters in a sport like that. because if you're a black kid and you go to a PBR event and you see a bunch of white cowboys, the thought might not even enter your brain, like this is something that I could do when I grow up.
Or maybe it does, but you also have these mental blocks. But if you see somebody that looks like you out there participating, it opens up a door for that kid that might inspire them to do something down those lines.
So that's got to be a really rewarding thing that you've done. Have you seen any pushback at all? Has there been any sort of latent racism that's been laying around that's made it difficult on you? Or have the fellow riders and the people on tour been really nice to you? Everybody on tour is great.
I mean, there's some of those keyboard warriors at home that ain't got nothing better to do. But that, the PBR and the true blue, real PBR fans, they don't care what color you are.
They just want to see you ride bulls. And if you do your job, then they care less what you look like, what color chaps you're wearing, or what color shirt you're wearing.
They just want to see you ride good bulls. That's awesome.
Yeah, so PFT brought up representation. Why am I not represented in bull riding? Why are there no fat guys riding bulls? No comment.
I mean, seriously, though, are there any fat people who ride bulls? I wouldn't say on a professional level. What the fuck? So it's an advantage to be smaller? Yeah, it's an advantage to be smaller.
Just a lower center of gravity.

Damn it. Okay.

But I think you got it. I think you can do it.
No, I would never

get out of the pool. Fuck that.

That shit is crazy, man.

Is it an advantage to be light to a certain

extent, or can you be too light?

I guess you could be too light.

There's a balance between being light

and you have to be

I guess an actual

athlete. Right.

You can't just be... I mean, there is

Let's go. there's a balance between being in light and have like you have to be i guess uh an actual athlete right you can't just be i mean there is some exceptions to the rules but for the most part there is no is a shot of jess no not a jess no jess is jack just jack for a little dude jess is jack so he's strong uh but there's some other people that might not be quite as strong but for the most part part, everybody's pretty much a physical specimen.
They're athletes. Yeah, what if you put like a six-year-old on a bull and the bull doesn't even realize anyone's on it? The bull might just walk.
It just might walk around. Although that would be it.
You'd have to re-ride. You'd have to re-ride.
We'd hope so. Yeah, we'd hope so.
All right, so I have a question from our co-worker, Billy, who's not here, but it's an excusable absence. But this is his question, not mine, so it's kind of weird, but whatever.
Do you shock the bull's testicles before riding, or is that someone else's job? Nobody does that. Okay, so good question, Billy.
Yeah, that is one of the hugest myths in all of rodeo. Of course.
I don't know why everybody thinks that we have. I don't know what's everybody's fascination with these bulls' testicles.
They probably talked about it on a Joe Rogan podcast, and that's where he got it from. I apologize for the question.
There's nothing tied around them. Nobody touches the bulls' testicles.
Follow-up. Can you control how much shock occurs on the bull's testicles? That was actually a real follow-up.
That was a real... Once again, there's no shock.
The Cowboys got a dial on the back. Yeah, just like...
Billy definitely walks around telling people, like, yeah, they shot the fuck out of those bull's balls. Just spitballing here, what if we started our own bull riding tour where you do shock the bulls' testicles? I feel like more people would watch that.
I don't think that'd get off the ground, you know, PETA and all that other good stuff. That's true.
We might run into some issues with that. Yeah, there might be some issues.
Yeah, is there something about, this is also a Billy question, is there something when you see a bull that you can tell, like, this bull's having a bad day? Like, I'm going to be in for a wild ride on this one. No, not really.
You can kind of tell their personalities and their demeanors. But for the most part, I mean, you can have one that's acting completely nuts back there in the lead-up alley or in the buck and shoots.
And he could just be, like you said, one of those bulls that just have a bad day, and not just a bad day once, but all the time. Yeah.
And there's bulls that always sit there. Like we had a bull called Bruiser, one of the best bulls ever as well, and he never moved a muscle whenever he was in the buck and shoots.
He barely twitched an ear. He just stood there.
What a badass. He'd do his job, buck you off.

If you landed underneath him, he'd try to step away from you.

Really?

So there are bulls that are friendlier to people?

Yeah, like Bruiser, you can go back there and it's holding pins

and you can go scratch on them.

I've seen him lick somebody like a dog.

Really?

And then are there bulls that if they buck you, they're going to try to stomp you out? Yeah, there are some like that. For the most part here in recent years, they've really gone away with, they're breeding away from the meanness and breeding more towards just them being athletes.
Oh, interesting. Yeah, so there's a lot that goes into it.
I like that. So if you're an asshole bull, they're probably not going to let you breed.
Unless you're a badass. Yeah.
Unless you're a real badass. All right, so it's kind of like in sports, like the locker room cancer, you can deal with him if he's really good.
Yeah, exactly. Right, so if the bull's a true badass, he can be an asshole as well.
Yeah, exactly. But the bulls that are not badasses, that are assholes, you're out.
Yeah. Okay.
What about the clowns? Are there still clowns? We don't call them clowns. Oh, yeah.
What do we call them? Don't call them clowns. My man.
My man. What do we call them again? We call them bullfighters now.
That seems not right. No, they're not clowns.
They went from clowns to bullfighters? Yeah, yeah. Come up.
Big blow up. That's like when an accounting firm or a big law firm and they just make everyone vice president.
Yeah. How do they go bullfighter from clown? So originally in rodeo, a rodeo clown, you know we have Flint in our arena.
He's our entertainer. He cracks all the jokes and stuff.
Originally in rodeo, the people that protect the cowboys, they also had to crack jokes and keep the crowd entertained. Clowns.
Yeah, so then they were actually clowns. They had to keep the crowd entertained, then they had to protect the cowboy and go back and forth.
Well, then some of the guys were like, well, I'm not funny. I just want to protect the cowboys.
Right. Bullfighters.
Yeah, they stopped telling jokes, and they just got one guy to start telling jokes. And then he became the rodeo clown, per se.
And then they're the bullfighters now. They save guys.
They don't want to be called a clown. They don't want to be viewed as a joke.
So if I called them a clown, they'd get mad? Some of them would probably get mad. Some of them would just probably correct you as we just did.
Yeah.

No, it's good to know.

I'm learning about the sport.

Yeah. Are those guys, like, are they trying to also get on the tour?

Or, like, how does a path go for a bullfighter?

Yeah, a bullfighter, it goes a little bit different.

So they have, like, what they call, like, freestyle bullfighting contest.

And then they have all the amateur rodeos.

So pretty much you just want to build up, like like a reputation of being a badass bullfighter and then eventually they'd buy their card just as we do in the pbr to be able to get in and then they'll have to start trying to book jobs and they'll work their way through the velocity and then maybe get a call up and come to the unleash the beast level and then also we vote also we vote at the end of the year, all of us bull riders, we vote on who we think should be the guys protecting us all year long. So do you tip them out if you win? No.
Really? It's not like a caddy situation where it's like, thank you for protecting us? No, they get a pretty good salary from what I understand. Okay.
Probably not good enough. Yeah a bull.
They'd never get paid enough. Yeah, right.
I don't think it would hurt to slip them a little. Yeah, maybe think about it.
At Christmas time. Well, they would probably, I mean, I'm not going to tell you how they react when you get bucked, but they might go the extra mile when you're laying on the ground if Zeke had tipped them out at the end of the year.
Just a thought. I know personally

if I had a guy whose job

was to make sure the bull didn't crush my

skull in, I would take care of him.

Get him an Amazon gift card at the very least.

Get him a Yeti.

There's some things.

I can get the Amazon gift card.

You just want to know that guy has a little bit

more of a connection to you.

Speaking for, if I'm that

guy and I get tipped out by one guy

and I don't get tipped out by the other,

I'm that guy and I get tipped out by one guy and I don't get tipped out by the other,

I'm going to be a half second quicker to yourself.

Just naturally.

Not saying I want anything to happen to you.

Yeah, but I'll maybe stay in the ring a little bit longer

to make sure the ball goes after me.

You're my guy.

Yeah.

Yeah, but they're a different breed.

If y'all think bull riders are a different breed,

they're tuned in in their brain that there's only one thing that they're there to do. And they think if somebody is supposed to get carried out on a stretcher, if somebody's supposed to die, then it's supposed to be them.
That's how they feel after every bull. You know what? The way you put that right there, I think that it's okay that they went from clown to bullfighters.
That's fair. That's a fair graduation.
I'm correcting my own language here. They'll tell you, too.
When we had Jess on, we were talking to him about just the culture around rodeo. And one thing that's always been fascinating to me is the names of the bull riders.
How many people named Cody do you know on tour?

There's at least three right off the top of my head.

Yeah, a lot of Cody's.

Yeah, without even thinking about it.

What is it about the name Cody that just makes people become cowboys?

I don't know.

I never thought of that as a cowboy name when I was growing up.

I know a lot of Cody's didn't, too,

but I guess it's just a popular name around that time in life. Are you the only Ezekiel? Oh, yeah.
It's a cool name, too. Yeah, there's only one.
I mean, they say there's one in football, but I've never heard of him. Ezekiel Elliott? Yeah, that one.
Yeah, he got fat. What about initials? No, he's skinny.
I feel like there's a lot of JWs, JBs, JJs. Yeah, I guess they don't like their real names.
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's Cody's and then just throw a J and something else in there.
It's Cody's and then others. They should do that for the All-Star game, how they do second-year players versus rookies in basketball.
It should be Cody's versus the world. Yeah.
I mean, they'd have a lot. They'd have a lot of Cody's.

Wait, so what are you ranked in the last?

Is this?

Oh, we've got to get you up there.

Yeah, we're way behind.

Yeah, we're way behind.

Okay, we've got to get you up there.

Do you have a nickname?

Blue.

Night of the color.

Blue.

Okay.

Okay.

What about Physicule?

Physicule?

Have you ever thought about just working hard,

getting in real good shape one summer,

and then you show up, you've got an impact? You don't have to do that. Physicial.
Physicial. You could stick with Blue.
I think it's a good nickname, personally. I mean, it's not bad.
It's not bad. Probably not my first choice, but it's not bad.
All right, so I had one last question. So, I mean, I can't believe it took us this long, but what's the worst injury? We've got to know.
Man, I've been pretty dang blessed. I mean, if I had to say, yeah.
Knock it on wood for you. if i mean if i had to say yeah knock it on wood for you thank you yeah if i had to say anything it would be the groin like that that was my worst injury i've had so far i've been very blessed throughout my whole entire career to stay really healthy that's why it's been so hard for me to kind of come back from it because i just i ain't never experienced yeah yeah and the janky wrists and And the janky wrists.
That didn't help at all. Gron injuries are tough too because they don't heal.
They never heal. It takes a long time because you have to be you can't walk across like a slippery floor without you know just tweaking it a little bit.
You gotta give that thing some time off. Yeah.
I definitely still can feel it. It'll pull and stuff like that.
It doesn't hurt really anymore but you can just feel how tight it is because it's pretty much just like a knot in there now I guess. Yeah.
I'm looking at these names right now. PBR's got some great names.
Yeah. You got a Dakota Butter.
Yeah. Boudreau Campbell.
Yeah, that's my homie Boudreau. Okay.
Keyshawn Whitehorse. That's my other homie.
Fuck, these guys are awesome. These are great names.
And those are real names. Those are real names.
Lonnie West, that's just a good name. That's a good bull.
Stetson Wright, that's a good name. That sounds like a gun.
All right, well, yeah, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it.
Dude, this has been awesome. I enjoyed it.
Hopefully you had fun, and we'll be watching. We're going to start becoming Blue fans, Zeke fans, Ezekiel fans.
Yeah, exactly. And, yeah, good luck with the rest of the season, man.
What's up next for you? What's the next event? Newark this weekend. Yeah.
Then after that, we head off to Deadwood, South Dakota. Okay.
Cool. All right.
Going to the mountains. Everyone tune in for that.
Yeah. Thanks, man.
Make sure they're watching. Thank you all.
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We've got Fire Fest of the Week to finish us off.

Hank, would you like to start?

What was that? What does that mean? Well, yeah. I mean, honestly, again, last time when I brought up the all, I prefaced it by saying I don't actually have a Fyre Fest.
If I did one, that would be it. You took it extremely personally.
Of course I did. So personally, this is a real is a real firefest i need to preface this like this is not a a joke haha we're all we're all we're all just joshing around okay kelly martin you guys heard talk about the show yeah me big cat pft especially me like i'm on side conversations with her i know you guys are too but like we're basically in communication every day, talking every day.
When we bust balls with her, we kind of do it together. We all, I deal with her sometimes even more in her team on my own day to day, like probably in terms of work relationships, one of the closest that's out there besides the people in this room.
Right. She is getting married.
Shout out to Kelly. Congratulations on getting married.
You two took it upon yourselves to throw her a like party. Excuse me? and i got no invitation and kelly was like oh i i'm sorry you didn't make it to my party and i was like what are you talking about she's like oh big cat and pft didn't tell you look they got me presents no she's lying to you she's trying to get presents from you hank she's turned you against us my fire that easily my fire she was holding my fire fest is now that Hank is so gullible that he actually thought that...
You thought we got her presents? Yes. You thought we got her presents? We still owe her a bag.
What happened was she was holding a bag. Someone else got her presents.
Alright. Firefest reversed.
Thank you. I'm also offended Big Cat because all it takes for Hank to turn on us is just a woman to tell him a lie.
And then next thing you know, Hank's doing the la, la, la. Well, in my defense, she was literally holding up.
She was like, oh, I can't believe you missed the party. We were drinking champagne.
She was hammered. Holding up a bag and be like, oh, I can't believe Big Cat.
She definitely pitted me against you guys, but was like i can't believe that's i mean that's the trick she used but she was holding the bags which means i thought that you guys chipped in and got her present and left me out of it which made me look like an asshole which i was actually somewhat upset about that was not only fire fast reverse not only i take it back no but take reverse double reverse it because now i'm going to try to get her a present with PFT and keep you out of it. That's fine.
If you guys do it as a joke, funny, haha, whatever, I thought this was all behind the scenes because Kelly was just like, you missed the party. And I was like, no one told me about the party.
No, we had nothing to do with the planning. I went up there.
I love Kelly. I'm very happy for her.
I went up there for 10 minutes. I had one slice of pizza.
I told two jokes, and then I left. It wasn't our plan.
You guys can admit, though, if you guys got her a gift and I didn't know about it, that would be kind of somewhat messed up. Yeah, but we would never have done that.
Okay, alright. That's the part that hurts.
Alright, but again, I physically saw a gift bag. She got you.
She got you. She got you.
She got your ass. She got you.
She got you. She got me.
She got you. She got you.
She got nice thing for us and then she went down and told hank because she's feeling so good about herself. Just wanted on the record, PFT and I did nothing nice in this situation for Kelly.
Absolutely nothing. Okay? I walked up half a flight of stairs and then made a laugh.
I was late to the party. Yeah, Big Cat.
And it was like a 10-minute party. I thought Big Cat was going to be mad at me because I stopped in and he wasn't there.
I forgot that it was going on. I left after three minutes and then Big Big Cat came in.
We did the Wallow and Gilly switch. Yeah.
He left and I came in. But congrats to Kelly.
Yeah, congrats to Kelly. We love Kelly.
We really do. And Hank.
I got a bat in my hand. I'm going to blow, blow, blow you to death.
I also saw Hank in our latest YouTube video, the behind the scenes of last Thursday during the I thing.

They interviewed Hank behind the scenes.

And he was like, yeah, you know, like PFT takes his glasses off and it's like, oh.

That's his thing that he does. He's just addicted to the sound.

He's addicted to the sound.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's my best impression.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's pretty good.

Yeah.

All right, PFT?

My Fire Fest is future me got present me into a situation that I forgot about for the last month and a half, but I'm going to have to pay the piper next weekend, and it's probably not going to be pretty. I said about a year and a half ago.
Oh, I know what this is. Two years ago.
Yeah, you're playing. That I was done playing rugby after the tournament up in Lake Placid, which I did not get injured in, but I did get run over by a 21-year-old that was built like Rob Gronkowski.
And I got talked into signing up to playing in another rugby game next weekend. Not this weekend, but next.
And so kind of forgot about it. I think you secretly want to do it.
Kind of forgot about it. Two years ago.
Yeah, I think you secretly want to do it. You think I secretly wanted to do it after i yeah i think you said i want i think you want to play which is okay not really i i got talking future you want to play that's fair future me wanted to play present me did not but it's also like a memorial weekend for a guy that went to my college and was like the big benefactor of the rugby team and uh so i got i got guilted into wanting to go which i i'm happy to do Can you send Billy? Send Billy.
Billy, do you want to go? No. Nice, Billy.
Good job. So if I come back the weekend after the 16th, some sort of cast, I'm only myself to blame.
Yeah, past you to blame. My goal is to just play 20 minutes and not get injured.
Oh, just 20 minutes. I'll be happy.
I'll be happy with that.

20 minutes is a long time.

Yeah, running clock.

Real man's game.

Long time.

All right, my fire fest is I got the flu vaccine and my arm hurts.

Real big fire fest this week.

Wow.

All right, Lib.

Yeah, we got the flu.

You got it too.

I know.

We both got it.

In my left wing.

Yeah, me too.

Anyone else?

Anyone else?

I would never.

No?

No.

You don't know what's in that shit. Oh, that shit.
No, that one's a real vaccine. Oh.
All right, Billy. Also, my future me, I mean, that root canal that I was so excited about on Wednesday.
That is going to happen. Eventually, yeah.
Yeah, that is going to suck. All right, go ahead, Billy.
I'm addicted to cookies and making cookies. Is this the milk? Is it because you have unlimited milk now? It's because of the milk.
It's like the milk. I go by the milk and then right next to the milk is the cookie dough.
Yeah. And, you know, I've sort of...
Wait, you're making your own cookies? I'm making my own cookies. Can you...
Make you guys some cookies? Why wouldn't you? No, because this is what I do. It's actually really awesome.
I take... So, know how they come in squares? This is going to not be awesome.
Cookies come in squares, but five minutes later, not awesome. Do you buy Chessman cookies in the Pepperidge Farm thing and then put those in the oven? Right.
Wait. No, no.
I get the cookie dough. Billy, I'm going to give you...
Instead of making small cookies, I make four gigantic cookies. That's pretty cool.
And then I bake them. But wait.
And then I make them gooey and then I eat one, but then I put the rest in the fridge and then I eat one a night and warm it up in the air fryer. Why wouldn't you want to, like, I guess it's a personal taste.
So I personally do not like I like crispy cookies. Well, the thing about the big cookies,

you can get the outside crispy and then the inside gooey.

I take it back.

That is awesome.

It is awesome.

Yeah, there it is.

That's awesome.

Billy's Giant Cookies.

So can you bring us some?

Bring us all one...

If you come over...

No, Sunday.

Sunday, when we all watch football,

it'd be nice if we all had a Billy's Giant Cookie.

What about tonight?

You want to go make them?

I'll make a bunch of cookies tonight. How big are we talking about here, Billy? What? How big are we all had a Billy's giant cookie.
What about tonight? You want to go make them? I'll make a bunch of cookies

tonight. How big are we talking about here, Billy?

What? How big are we talking about?

Like pizza size? Yeah.

Billy's sauces.

Billy's now showing the size of an

average cookie. Now it's gone back

to not awesome. This? It needs to

be much bigger. If you're going in a giant cookie,

it has to be like pizza size.

I mean, it's a fourth.

You already heard us judge them.

Yeah, get four of them and then make

Thank you. much bigger than that.
If you're calling it a giant cookie, it has to be like pizza size. I mean, it's a fourth.
You already heard us judge them. Yeah, get four of them and then make four giant like cookies, like pizza size cookies.
You've already heard us judge them. Well, no, bring it.
Bring, bring. I want you to bring the ones that you've been making in tonight.
I personally don't think he's going to bring them. Okay.
Wow. Just come over to my house.
No, we're not coming over to your house for cookies. You can bring them.
Are you going to bring them? Maybe. That's such a no.
All right. Jake, finish this up.
So next weekend, I'm heading down to Baton Rouge for the Florida LSU game. I know you guys have been before.
I was very much looking forward to my first Death Valley Under the Lights experience. 11 a.m.
started now. Yikes.
Shout out to guy, Coach Ove. I'm still very excited.
He did not say that he wanted to kill that guy on the radio. But even if he did, I think he was well within his rights.
He didn't say that, so everyone chill out. I know you guys went to a night game.
I was looking forward to a night game. They usually play night games.
We went to a night game. They didn't score a touchdown.
Okay. If you get a touchdown, that would be nice.
11 a.m. local time.
What time are you going to have to get up to start tailgating for that?

I think they're not going to go to sleep in Baton Rouge.

I think they're going to get started the night before.

No, I used to have to do 11 a.m. in college because, you know, Midwest time, yeah.

And they would always do the noon kickoff.

There was 11 a.m. local time.

It's brutal.

I know that this sounds very ridiculous to complain about, but it would be like go to sleep at 3, wake up at 8, try to stomach a couple beers, and go to the game. But isn't Death Valley known for the night games? Yes.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's what I'm going for. I'm going for my brother's bachelor party, so I'm going with like 10 kids from Massachusetts who don't even care about college football.
Is your brother marrying Kelly? No, she's not. He's getting married in February.
We should get him a gift. Yeah.
And not tell Hank. Yeah, he should.
Get a set of golf clubs. But it's like when you obviously schedule it in the summer, you're like, oh, LSU, Florida, October, perfect.
At least it will be like the 3.30. Yeah, the 2.30 local time.
And the worst part is last week was the 8 p.m. kickoff local time, which is like, then you have all day to party.
Yeah. Damn.
And now it's like, I don't know what we're going to do after the game. Well, here's the only, I'll give you a spin zone.
It is, when you go to a game 11 a.m. local time, it does feel like you have two Saturdays.
Because you have pregame game Saturday, then you have a little bit of a low, maybe drink a little afterwards at a tailgate, and then you have a going out Saturday. So you basically have two full days in one.
I think you even have enough time maybe to sneak in an afternoon nap. Yeah, I used to nap.
I used to do the nap from like four to like six and then go back out. That's perfect timing.
The 7 a.m. star is tough.
Are you guys planning on meeting up at all? Yeah, we'll probably go to Fred's together. Yeah.
Jake, you're going to get... I'm going with my family, so...
Perfect. Are you going to be turnt?

You're going to be front?

Yeah, we'll see.

Oh.

I'm going to get Jake blacked.

No.

You should roofie Jake.

Yeah.

I was so excited to say pause there.

Yeah.

But not pause, because it's a very fine website.

It'll still be a fun weekend.

Love is love.

I'm excited to see everything down there.

Okay.

Good fire for us, Jake. I'm not going to speak it into existence.
Say it. No, no, no.
Say it. I'm not.
Say it. I'm not going to speak it into existence.
Please say it. You have to say it now.
I don't want to. Say it.
You can't stop saying something. If LSU loses this weekend and then they lose that game to Florida, it's going to be tough scenes in Death Valley on that Saturday afternoon.
Correct. Yes.
But I strike that from the record. That's fair.
Stricken from the record. Never said.
But yes, you are correct. As far as I'm concerned, Coach O deserves to stay there for the rest of his life.
Job for life. I have a group Friar Fest.
We are not seeing Marlins man this October behind the plate.

Oh, I know.

What's wrong?

He banged up his knee.

You didn't see that?

Yeah, you can't travel.

No, is he all right?

Dude, he's got a fucking huge brace on his knees, laying in bed with all his pussies.

You sure it's not his shoulder?

No, it's his knee.

It's all that orange you see behind Houston's home plate.

They're doing that in tribute for Marlins man.

I think he texted everybody that's sitting behind home plate these playoffs, We're all wearing orange for Marlins, man. Okay? Yes.
All right. Everyone, good luck this weekend.
Billy? A little recap. They think they've found the Zodiac Killer.
He's passed away. That's a recap.
A recap of what? You guys haven't noticed this. He does this every time.
What? He's doing a sheet. Yeah.
Yeah, okay. No, but...
Go on. Okay, the recaps, I've been trying to do them.
Been slacking lately. Keep going.
That's okay. You've been doing a great job otherwise, except for the big cookie.
But turns out the guy used to write reviews of serial killer documentaries. Oh.
I kind of like that, though. Who else would you go to for a serial killer review? Well, this guy, Gary F.
Post, who they think was the Zodiac Killer, he wrote on the hunt for Ted Bundy, awful, would give less than one star if I could. Ted Bundy is wildly overrated.
Yeah. I mean, I...
That sounds like... I get it.
You. That's something like a PFT commenter would say.
Like, I would rate serial killers on Yelp.

This guy was like,

this guy's awesome.

One star would not get murdered by again.

The service was terrible.

Ted Bundy was overrated.

It was wild.

Yeah, it was wild.

He didn't beat anyone.

He actually is overrated.

Yeah.

Well, he's just good looking.

Yeah, some people thought he was hot

and then Zac Efron.

Well, he also broke out of jail.

So that gets some...

Served as his own lawyer.

Breaking out of jail

gets at least some credit. I don't know.
I don't think he's the GOAT. I think he's...
I agree with this comment by post. No, it's fucking John Wayne Gacy.
Fuck. Horseshoe crabs bleed blue.
John Wayne Gacy killed like dozens, right? A lot. A lot of kids, right? Yeah, but that's kind of like playing an inferior opponent.
He beat up on safety. I'm out of this conversation.

98.

Give me an eight.

Six.

John Wayne Gacy ain't played nobody, Paul.

By the way.

All he did was murder some 12-year-olds.

They're supposed to be SEC, Paul.

By the way, I've gone all the way from one to 99.

I'm now reversing it.

50, 16, 80, and 89 out of play. That's 98.
44. I'm convinced 97's not in there.
We'll have to do an audit. Audit, I've got all the documents.
Oh, 44 is the first timer. Whoa.
We still have like 13 left. 13 or 14.

That'll be a big moment.

When we finish it.

Should we take bets over under when we're going to finish this?

Yeah, but think about it.

It's going to eventually be a 1% chance of getting one.

That's not a strong suit.

We're on math, guys.

Love you guys. Thank you.
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