Tyson Fury, Professional Bull Rider Ezekiel Mitchell, NFL Week 5 Preview & Geno Smith Is Back

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we've got a twofer for the people, Tyson Fury on the ahead of his big fight on Saturday night. And then we have something a little different.

Speaker 1 Professional bull rider Ezekiel Mitchell in studio. We also have Thursday night football, Crazy Seahawks game.
We have

Speaker 1 the week five preview, Fantasy Fuckboys, and Fire Fest of the Week. A little football Friday.
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Today is Friday, October 8th.

Speaker 1 And holy shit, just when you think the Seahawks can't top themselves, we had everything. We had double punts.
We had double fingers being broken. We had Geno Smith.

Speaker 1 God damn it, do the Seahawks rule in prime time?

Speaker 2 Yeah, as our friend Kevin Clark puts it, the Seahawks have never played a regular game. But even still, they find ways to put new squares on the bingo card.

Speaker 2 If you thought that the Seahawks could do everything, guess what? We've got a double punt.

Speaker 2 We've got, yeah, two quarterbacks of broken figures, and we have the live Seahawk landing on a guy's head in the stands, which is probably the most normal thing that happens.

Speaker 2 But yeah, the double punt was something I never thought I would see in a game outside of one that David Cully coached. But holy shit,

Speaker 2 that was the best play of the night.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. Well,

Speaker 1 we have to shout out Geno Smith for going 98 yards. And we knew the pick was coming because that was Geno Smith was feeling himself.
But yeah, the double punt, incredible. The way he scooped it.

Speaker 1 Listen, we like Mike Pereira, but he got that one wrong because we all were sitting there. We all were screaming, punt it again.
And when he punted it again, they threw a flag.

Speaker 1 I think the rest were just like, sometimes the rest throw flags where they're like, holy shit, that play was so awesome. We need a minute to figure out if it was legal or not.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's collect our thoughts after what we just saw. We'll buy ourselves a minute of discussion time after the fact.

Speaker 1 And the Seahawks, like, in terms of the game, it was clear that Matt Stafford was off because he had a finger broken. Then the Seahawks are leading.
Russell Wilson breaks his finger.

Speaker 1 Like, the middle finger is just completely bent in half.

Speaker 1 That game felt like it was winnable for the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Then it went away because Russell Wilson gets hurt. Then Geno Smith brings it back from the dead.

Speaker 1 But a big win for, obviously, the Rams. They win in a way that's, you know,

Speaker 1 tough to win in the division, tough to win on the short week, tough to win on the road.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Matt Stafford's finger, he did not look good. And he also threw in the classic Deshaun Jackson, just getting free deep down the field.

Speaker 2 I was about to say that Deshaun Jackson play actually had everything that we love about Deshaun Jackson in a single play.

Speaker 2 He burns his cornerback, gets open, makes a catch off where he adjusts at the last minute to a ball, outruns everybody, and then stops short at the goal line, and then also looks like he's got a pulled hamstring.

Speaker 2 Yeah. All in the same play.
It's a complete experience.

Speaker 1 And shout out our co-workers, Jack McCarthy and Evan Basenko. I think I got that right, but

Speaker 1 I just call him Ebo,

Speaker 1 nicknaming Jamal Adams Blitz Boy, which is the best nickname ever because if he's not blitzing, he's not productive on the field.

Speaker 2 He's like a chess piece that can only do one thing. Like DK Metcalf is a chess piece.
He's the rook. He runs straight.

Speaker 2 Jamal, or yeah,

Speaker 2 Blitz Boy, he just crowds a lot of scrimmage. He wears sick armbands.
Tons of arms. And then he's excellent in run support, which is, I guess, what they traded two first-round picks for.

Speaker 2 We should give a little bit of credit to Rex Ryan, though. Yes.

Speaker 2 Because drafting Geno Smith is just, that's one more plot point, one more data point on why Rex Ryan scored the highest score ever on creativity and problem solving in the history of the state of Maryland.

Speaker 1 I was so, it was just like, it was nice to see Geno Smith. The Geno Smith was one of those guys I thought I'd never have to think about again.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 He's just like, that name is never going to come back up in my life. And then, boom, there he is, 98 yards.
I think Geno Smith, I think he might be a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 So this is like the first time that we've really seen Russ Wilson get hurt.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right? Like he doesn't miss time.

Speaker 1 He's gotten hurt, but he's never missed time.

Speaker 2 Right. He's had some ribs, I think, in the past.
He's been nicked.

Speaker 1 A few ribs.

Speaker 2 He's been nicked in the past. But yeah, we might get an extended stay from Geno Smith back in the national consciousness, which I'm very much looking forward to.

Speaker 1 Although, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it was a pretty gruesome.
broken finger.

Speaker 1 And I, listen, I know that they had to run the ball on third down and long after Russ hurt his finger, but the Seahawks like to do that. They did it in the first half, too.

Speaker 1 Their play calling remains a complete mystery. Well,

Speaker 2 Pete Carroll is still in the process of establishing the run and having Geno Smith. We are going to get a healthy dose of either Alex Collins or Chris Carson if he comes back.

Speaker 2 The run has never been established like it's about to be established.

Speaker 1 Like, I got it. I got it.
Because Russ Wilson gets hurt.

Speaker 1 You don't want to make him throw there,

Speaker 1 get off the field, assess the injury. But they did do it in the first half.

Speaker 1 Whereas, like, if there's one team that you would say can pick up a third and long, it's the Seahawks because they have guys that just they, that's what they do, they rip big plays.

Speaker 1 They don't, they actually aren't good at like six-yard plays, right? They're good at bombs and short runs.

Speaker 2 And DK looked awesome tonight. Just keep feeding DK, and you'll be okay.

Speaker 1 Do you know when DK got a little bit of a connection?

Speaker 2 They have some chemistry, they have almost like a breakfast club type chemistry going on out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cooper Cup also had a big game, very big game. Yeah, he the breakfast club was on.

Speaker 2 Do you think that when the Seahawks wear their all action green, which I like, I like seeing it out there? It's Color Rush Thursday. I like it on a Thursday night.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't necessarily like it on a Sunday afternoon. It looks gross in the sun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the light of day, it's a whoa, what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like we have beer goggles on when we're watching it. During the last chick at the bar, they look pretty good.

Speaker 1 It's like when you wear like a button-down shirt to work, and I'm like, what's going on? Yeah, exactly. There's some things that, like, during the day, you just shouldn't dress up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so, uh, yeah, I think I like the action green uniforms, but don't you think that it makes it easier on the opposing quarterback if the defense is wearing highlighters?

Speaker 2 Like, you can see where the cornerbacks are. There's no blending in, there's no hiding when you're wearing the action green.
And the other note that I had on the game was: we did get a doink.

Speaker 2 We got a doink out of it. Except the doinks, I don't know if it's my ears changing as I get older, but they're sounding more like bonks these days.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I said deeper. Sunday's doink

Speaker 5 was a real nice doink.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it's like a deep, it's like a bonk, not a flat,

Speaker 2 more like a ping. And I just think that if the ball hits the upright, it should be a live ball after that.
And you should be allowed to pick it up and run it into the end zone for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right, other things we had. The U.S.
is back to being the best soccer team in the world.

Speaker 2 Pepe is only 18.

Speaker 1 Yep. He's a fucking wagon, so made easy work of Jamaica.
And then we had playoff baseball. So,

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 Wednesday night was a dramatic Cardinals-Dodgers game, walk-off, 3-1 win for the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 It sucks because that was

Speaker 1 the Cardinals were actually my pick to win the World Series, so I feel bad about that.

Speaker 2 You've been saying for a long time. I thought it was their year.
This Cardinals team is different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I really did think it was their year. And Clutch hits the entire winning streak in the game.

Speaker 1 0 for 11 and runners and scoring position.

Speaker 2 This has got to be the loss that stings the hardest for Cardinals fans out there because this team was going place.

Speaker 1 And Pujols marches on. Yeah, wouldn't that be something Poojos came up big in the postseason? That was quite a move to pinch head him there.
Yes, yes, a little gamesmanship.

Speaker 1 And then today we had the White Sox get... I mean, they got smoked by the Astros.
That was a 6-1 game is a smoking in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But quick turnaround, they got a game tomorrow. I don't know.
I mean,

Speaker 1 wouldn't it... It does kind of feel like...
You want the White Sox to do well?

Speaker 1 So what I told our friend Tom Fernelli, and I told all the White Sox fans in my life, I'm rooting for the White Sox until they start to annoy me, which could happen at any moment.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It's like

Speaker 1 you want them to do well until they say some shit and then it's like, nah, fuck that. So it could happen tonight.
It could happen tomorrow. It could happen.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's basically just a ticking time bomb of how long I can be like, oh, yeah, it'd be nice if they did well. I would really like to.
I think that's a fair way to do it.

Speaker 2 That's how I root for whatever team is out there that I don't actively root for during the season.

Speaker 1 Right. Whenever you're rooting and your team's not involved, you essentially are like, which team will piss me off the least? Yep.

Speaker 1 Like, the Rays winning the World Series would be a great thing for America because no one would care.

Speaker 6 Right?

Speaker 2 So I'm hoping that we get at least one point where it's Dusty Baker and Larusa jawing at each other. Yeah.
Like, you know, old friends that have been drinking at the same bar.

Speaker 2 Maybe they live like two doors down from each other for the last 60 years and they love each other.

Speaker 2 But at the same time, if they get to feuding, if someone borrows the other guy's mower and doesn't return it in a timely fashion, they're going to be honored at each other. That's what I want to see.

Speaker 2 Yes, just jawing each other. Maybe fight, maybe have them fight it out out of them.

Speaker 1 That would be a slow-motion fight. And then the Rays beat the Red Sox in game one.
Still home.

Speaker 1 Randy O'Reilly. A Rosarina.
Are Zarana.

Speaker 1 First of all, his name's Randy, which is so awesome. Like, you don't just, you don't get a lot of.
The only Randy we have in our life right now is fat Randy. Randy Bobandi.

Speaker 1 Randy Moss, obviously, electric, but any guy named Randy is like, it's just kind of a funny thing that's added to it. That was an an electric steal of home any steal of home and he hit a home run

Speaker 1 uh yeah but a uh stealing home in the playoffs that and it was a it wasn't like any little hijack it was a straight up he stole home falls to the wall yeah like that's you you don't you see that maybe once or twice a year where it's like nothing weird happened no one got distracted it was a straight up i'm going to steal home on your ass we also have like a stadium infrastructure battle going on between the red socks obviously with the green monster that had a a big showing, and then the Tropicana roof.

Speaker 1 The roof at the Trop is so

Speaker 2 weird.

Speaker 1 One is a wall,

Speaker 1 and one is a surface that is like ever-moving.

Speaker 1 It's a roof. No, but like some of the roof is in place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the catwalk. The Trop is by far and away, not even close the dumbest stadium we have in American sports.
And I kind of like it because it is so stupid.

Speaker 1 There was probably three or four times during that game where there were just outfielders looking up, being like, don't know where the ball is.

Speaker 2 That stadium was designed by somebody that grew up watching cricket that has no idea how baseball is played.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And where things could come into play and affect the course of an actual batted ball.

Speaker 1 It was designed by a guy who worked on like the...

Speaker 1 Remember when NFL, was it NFL 2K? When they had, what was the NFL game that came out that was like against Madden? No, no, not Blitz.

Speaker 2 There was one. It was 2K.

Speaker 1 2K. 2K, yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was like a little bit off. Everything was a little off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah, it's like the guy that got fired, the assistant that got fired when they were building the Marlin Stadium was hired to build the Tropicana. Oh, we could get Tropicana versus Minutemade.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 The A-ring, the D-ring. What is it now? The C-ring.
It's not Minutemade anyway. Is it Minutemade still? Oh, it is.
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 The OJ battle.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 Put the knives away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so then we got all baseball tomorrow. Yeah.
Do you still follow him on Twitter?

Speaker 2 No, he blocked me. No, no, he blocked.
OJ blocked me on Twitter. Yeah.
He blocked you. Probably for the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is definitely for the best. Let's get him on the show.
Although,

Speaker 1 we had offered, and we were like, nah, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 I do maintain that if I got killed by O.J. Simpson, it would be the biggest sports story out.
It would be, not to sound egotistical.

Speaker 1 That did sound egotistical.

Speaker 2 But it would be a pretty massive deal. Yes.

Speaker 1 No, I think we were...

Speaker 1 There was like, maybe like they asked me to bail him out of jail. They said, no, it was a damage.
They said it was a natty light deal.

Speaker 2 There's a natty light deal, and they said, hey, we want you to go drive Vanny Woodhead to the prison that O.J.

Speaker 1 Simpson's in

Speaker 2 and pick him up.

Speaker 1 Be his first interview.

Speaker 2 From when he gets out and interview him with a case of Natty Light in the back.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Were we in like Vegas? No, no.
We were going to drive to wherever his jail was. And we were like,

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 2 We're like, I don't think, yeah.

Speaker 1 His son's a murderer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also, let him do a couple interviews first.

Speaker 2 You know, yeah.

Speaker 6 That was a Billy reference.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't actually think that.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 there's a lot of facts.

Speaker 1 If it wasn't him, it was it. He's trained in hand-to-hand knife combat.
Oh, yeah. There you go.
Like, come on. Aren't you? Say less.

Speaker 6 No, he is.

Speaker 2 The glove died.

Speaker 1 But aren't you as well?

Speaker 7 I don't deal with knives.

Speaker 1 But no, wait, your hands. I'm not a knife guy.
But your hands are weapons.

Speaker 7 Technically, till the end of the year.

Speaker 1 So if anyone gets murdered,

Speaker 1 you would be the first we'd think.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Blunt Florist Trauma. Would you challenge OJ to Rough and Rowdy?

Speaker 7 Actually, I'd beat the shit.

Speaker 1 He's looking old. Here we go.
Well, he's not looking street joke. He is old.
Like, if you get a Hazard trophy, like 1960, if you're over 70 years old, I don't think you can say he's looking old. Yeah.

Speaker 1 like it's just he is an old man.

Speaker 2 No, it's like there's a lot of almost like there's some guilt or something that's weighing his face down.

Speaker 1 I don't need to be committing elder abuse again. By the way, so we're going to get to our NFL preview in a second, but just a little time travel for you.

Speaker 1 Billy did bring in the cookie, and it was garbage.

Speaker 2 It was beyond.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't have the cookie. It wasn't even a cookie.
I didn't have the right.

Speaker 1 You'll find out at the end of the show what we're referring to.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know. If I had to cook it in a pizza oven.

Speaker 2 It was garbage.

Speaker 7 It was garbage. It doesn't cook right in a pizza oven.

Speaker 1 You could have cooked it in.

Speaker 2 It's still hot, right? Actually, a pizza oven is designed to bake things like cookies.

Speaker 7 No, because it cooks from the top.

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's true. Anyway.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our NFL preview, week five preview.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 week five of the NFL season. We're already at week five, which is a third-ish

Speaker 1 through the season.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's like 4.12.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 It would be a quarter of the way. I'm trying to do the quarter math where you break it down, which we used to be able to do with 16 games.
Now it's 17.

Speaker 2 It's fucking up my whole divide the season a quarter strategy.

Speaker 1 Yes, it really does fuck everything up. It also feels like the week that we will

Speaker 1 get to eliminate some teams, some one in three teams, that if they don't have a good showing or win the game, I think you can kind of say that's probably over.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's always those stats that come out that say, like, if you start the season one and three or one and four or oh and two.

Speaker 2 Week two is really the big one where it's like 70% of 2-0 teams make the playoffs and 30% of 0-2 teams or something like that. But yeah, if you're 1-4 at this point,

Speaker 1 it's tough. You're done.
Stick a fork in you.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's do our picks and we'll preview the games. Jake, give us an update real quick on the drive to survive.
Is that what we're calling it? Drive to L.A. That's an F1, right?

Speaker 1 We should just co-opt that and just have everyone start talking about it. Drive to survive.

Speaker 1 Drive to LA, survive in LA,

Speaker 1 live and die in LA.

Speaker 2 What about the drive to the 405?

Speaker 1 Ooh, I like that. The drive to the 405.
So give us the updated standings.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so Billy and Big Cat 3-1 last week.

Speaker 8 We had Liam go 2-2, or Hank go 2-2. PFT and Liam 1-3.

Speaker 1 Oper.

Speaker 8 oh Jake Ofer for me so I am five and eleven Liam six and ten PFT eight and eight Billy nine and seven Hank and Big Cat tied 11-5 there we go you want to be the loser best out of three

Speaker 1 sure

Speaker 1 rock paper scissors shoot rock paper scissors shoot rock paper scissors shoot rock paper scissors shoot

Speaker 8 big cat so me and Hank so you and Hank

Speaker 1 yeah but I said that and then I realized it's the winner so we wouldn't even be able to I was I was thinking because I was talking I think I I was on a live stream or something, I was talking about the potential scenarios, and I was like, if it was me and Jake, we would just set really early tea times and like golf in the morning.

Speaker 1 In

Speaker 1 that's this is

Speaker 1 I said we would set really early tea times, golf in the morning, and then drive for the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 And then everyone was like, someone was like, it's, you know, it's going to be winter type of, yeah, maybe we'll go south first. Yeah, oh, you just first migrate down.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just go Florida, I-10.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I like that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I hope you bounce back this week, but no guarantee. Jake, you can always, when you stink at picking games, you can always be like, this is why play-by-play guys don't pick the game.

Speaker 2 I was about to say, it's a little distasteful that Jake even picks these games. He gets a spread acknowledging the gambling.

Speaker 1 I call one of them. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's fair.
All right, but let's get into it. Let's get into it.
Let's talk some football. Let's talk some preview.
I'm very excited for this weekend.

Speaker 1 Not the best slate, but it has the best game. I would say, like, yeah, probably, I'm going to say say right now, the best game that we've had this season.

Speaker 1 Chets Falcons, not Chets Falcons London, which is a terrible, terrible game, which I'm going to enjoy.

Speaker 1 But the Chiefs Bills Sunday night game is like that, that is the best game so far this season, it feels like, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's the best game. Like, I have a very short-term memory.
I'm like a goldfish, and it's the best game that I can remember during the regular season.

Speaker 1 Yes. Do you think it will get better ratings than last week? No.

Speaker 2 Does it have an Adele theme song?

Speaker 1 It says Buffalo.

Speaker 1 I feel like, but it's such a big big draw still. Yeah, no, it will be close, I think.
It actually will be close. It is a very big draw.

Speaker 8 I think you had non-football fans a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Exactly.

Speaker 2 That's true. That's for the same reason that they did the Ed Sheeran concert at week one to bring in a new audience.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 The NFL needs to break something out to make this game equal last week's ratings because, yeah, the storyline going into last week was that transcended sports.

Speaker 1 It needs to probably be a Cowboys game, too. Like, that feels like it's whenever the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Whenever people complain about the Cowboys being on Sunday night or Monday night football, well, they always do the best ratings. Sorry.
Okay, Hank, why don't you start us off?

Speaker 1 Let's start with favorites, and we'll preview every game.

Speaker 1 My favorite's going to be the Packers. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Minus three against the Bengals. Minus three against the Bengals.
You're right, Jake. We're going to reference the spread and who they're playing.

Speaker 1 It seems kind of like a rat line. It seems like it should be a little bit more, a little bit higher for the Packers.

Speaker 1 I do just think it's one of those games. I love Joe Burrow.
Love the Bengals. Thought they played well against the Jags, but it's the Jags.

Speaker 1 I just, you know, I see this being like a 10-point, never-in-doubt

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers kind of dominates the game. A couple of things.
I believe Jair Alexander's out. I believe

Speaker 1 he's the best player on the Packers defense. I'm going to look it up.
Maybe someone look it up.

Speaker 2 Their top two defensive players are out.

Speaker 1 Matt LaFleur did say with the 1 o'clock kickstart, not prime time, not in the afternoon. You've got to wake up with your piss hot, which I love.

Speaker 1 I actually, I have a friend friend who used to be the strength and conditioning coach at Vanderbilt in Georgia Tech, and he would always talk about how you got to wake up with your piss hot.

Speaker 1 And that's just a very football guy thing to say.

Speaker 2 A strength and conditioning coach, that can take on a second meeting, though. Yeah, that's true.
If you're pissing hot. But yeah, it's the nature's, it's your body's way of making coffee.

Speaker 2 Yes. You heat up the piss, you wake up with a boiling bladder.
I like that too. I like LaFleur.
Now it's in Cincinnati, right? It is. So it's on the road.

Speaker 2 We know Aaron Rodgers isn't going to be sticking around to spend extra time with his family after the game. So that's another, that's a big plus sign for him as opposed to Urban Meyer.

Speaker 8 Yep, that's true. Could be a couple weeks, could be season ending, but probably out.

Speaker 1 That's a shame. Did they pick up? They picked up Jalen Smith?

Speaker 2 They got Jalen Smith.

Speaker 2 I think he's healthy. He was like a healthy cut

Speaker 2 by the Cowboys. They still owed him a lot of money.
And the big question with him is always going to be, have his knee nerves regenerated fully? Yes.

Speaker 2 From the gross injury ad when he was at Notre Dame. But apparently they just cut him because they didn't want to pay him.
And they have some good players coming in at linebackers.

Speaker 2 So I think he instantly becomes the best player on the Packers defense. I'd agree.

Speaker 1 This game to me has a weird memory. I'm just going to throw out there.

Speaker 1 I remember it, and I'm looking it up right now, but I vividly remember 2005 Packers playing at the Bengals and Favre trying to throw a pass when he was like 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 And I remember watching it and being like, thank God Favre is finally done. And then he like, he still had, he still went to, I think, two NFC championship games with the Packers and the Vikings.

Speaker 2 And stopped over with the Jets. Yes.

Speaker 1 So I remember, though, watching that game and being like, oh, my God, this is awesome. Farva's lost his mind.
He's terrible. The Packers are finally going to stink now.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 6 it was a good moment.

Speaker 1 It was a good memory. So that's what I think of when I think of Packers going to the Bengals.
Unfortunately, history did not work out, and the Packers have been very good since.

Speaker 1 But I will always cherish that moment. I'm trying to find it right now.
Oh, yeah, he threw five interceptions. I'm watching the highlights right now.

Speaker 1 He threw five interceptions in that game, and he was just old man Favre. Like, the ultimate,

Speaker 1 when a guy like Favre, when a gunslinger gets old, they just, they don't realize that the line of scrimmage, you're not allowed to throw past it.

Speaker 1 And they just will have at least one or two times during the year where they'll run past the line of scrimmage and be like, I'm just making a play.

Speaker 2 My favorite is when Ryan Fitzpatrick does it, but he pump fakes past the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 So he just, he runs, and he'll be like six or seven yards, and then he'll fake a defender out that he's trying to run around by doing a pump fake and you always fall for the pump fake.

Speaker 1 Yes, you always fall for the fake. You got a jump.
Yeah. I'm trying to find the clip right now.

Speaker 1 All right. They were all right.
Let's go. I will find the clip and I will show it to you guys if I can.
It does feel like very, very fun.

Speaker 2 It feels like a rat line though. Hank's right because plus three.
for the Bengals, it feels like it should be like plus five and a half, plus six and a half.

Speaker 2 But this is one of those games where they're just, they're putting a piece of cheese out there. And I took it last week with the Ravens.
Felt pretty good about it.

Speaker 2 I was right last week taking the rat line. But I feel like they're setting me up to become more confident when I see those types of games.
They're just going to slam the trap shut on my neck.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, absolutely. All right, your favorite, Liam.

Speaker 5 My favorite is going to be Titans, minus four and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 Against the Jags. I feel like it's a sucker pick, obviously, because of Urban and everything.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 1 I like it too.

Speaker 2 I like it too. I'm a big time square because it does.
This one feels like an implosion game for the Jaguars. Like, everything has gone wrong for them this week.
They don't respect their coach.

Speaker 2 And people are talking about how if Urban Meyer,

Speaker 2 if he was three and one at this point,

Speaker 2 nobody really would give a shit. It wouldn't be that big.

Speaker 2 He could be making out with Tim Tebow's girlfriend or his wife or his mom, and nobody would give a shit about that video as long as he was a winning coach in the NFL.

Speaker 2 But if you lose, then every time you stick your finger close to a co-ed's butthole, it's going to become news.

Speaker 1 Yes, big time. Also, we saw the video of them doing the one, two, three grind on three to break the huddle, which was very, very funny.

Speaker 1 Feels like the team is now mocking him, which I love. Very, very funny.

Speaker 1 I like this pick, too. I found the clip.
I'm going to show it to you, PFT. I want you to narrate it.
Also, in this game, a hilarious thing happened.

Speaker 1 A fan ran on the field and stole the ball out of Favre's hand while he was going back for a pass.

Speaker 1 This is with like 27 seconds left. Watch this fan.
He just ran on the field and took the ball out of Favre's hand.

Speaker 2 And then he's celebrating?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. I don't know if he got tackled, but PFT, this is the same thing.

Speaker 2 That's a taunting penalty.

Speaker 1 PFT is going to

Speaker 1 narrate the play.

Speaker 1 This is just a PMT time vault.

Speaker 2 Okay, hang on. I'm going to have to drop the shades off.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Standardized.

Speaker 2 Standardize, standardize. Yes.
I need to be able to see the screen.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy my memory actually works sometimes.

Speaker 2 Okay, there's old Favre with his big old sleeves, drops back. The offensive line isn't blocking.

Speaker 2 Favre jumps back, pumps fake twice, runs to the left, and he's a yard short of the first down and throws it directly for him.

Speaker 2 He thought that he was actually on the schoolyard.

Speaker 1 He was seven yards down the field and he did he underhand threw it being like they can't call this because no one probably saw it.

Speaker 2 So did it get picked off?

Speaker 1 It just the game ended. Okay.
They call the flag the game ended.

Speaker 1 But yeah, thank God my memory still works from time to time.

Speaker 2 I love the sense of panic though that a quarterback gets towards the end of a game like that and Fav's like, I've already fucked up enough.

Speaker 1 Might as well just go absolutely full send on it and do something stupid yeah and i just i just vividly remember being like yes favor's done that was the this man is senile and then he wasn't um all right so what's your favorite i also wear the titans yeah i like that this the the only thing that makes me a little scared about it is like there's maybe a 10 chance that the team galvanizes against urban i'm i would bet against that but that is you have to at least admit that that could be in play that they're in like there's there's nothing that's uniting to a team more sometimes than their their unified hatred of their coach.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And I had actually had a football coach like that in high school that said, like, retrospective or retroactively, after he just made us run for an entire practice for no reason, he was like, you know, what I was trying to do today was to try to get you guys united behind something.

Speaker 2 And if that was fuck the head coach, then that was going to be good enough for me. It's like, no, you're just

Speaker 1 a prick. Yes, yes.
But

Speaker 2 there is a slight chance that something like that happens where some of the veterans on the team might be like, you know what? Fuck the coach. We're playing for ourselves.

Speaker 2 We're playing for our next contract at this point. So let's put a little bit more effort out there.

Speaker 1 They're pros. They care about the money.
All right. My favorite, I'm going to go with Steelers.
I think it's even, it's a pick'em right now. What is it? It pick'em right now.

Speaker 8 This morning they were minus one. Now they're plus a half.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 So I guess I can take a look at them. I was going to take the Steelers too.
Can I take them minus one? I can take a minus one.

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah.
Slide the line. Yeah.
I mean, it's just hurting myself, but that was my pick. I'll take that.
I like them. All right, okay.

Speaker 1 I I think, so this is my personal stand-my-ground game where if the Steelers don't win this game, I am done not only with the Steelers this season, but done betting on them, just pretending they don't exist.

Speaker 1 Because this is the game that, like, if they have any pulse left, it's a pulse check. If they have any pulse left, they will win this game.
You got maybe Drew Locke playing.

Speaker 1 Denver coming to Denver's clearly, like, maybe not the team we thought it was because they played some shitty competition and they get beat by the Ravens at home. Steelers defense is healthy.

Speaker 1 This is a pride. Do you have any pride, Danny Yame? All-time clip.
That's an all-time football guy. If you don't know it, Billy, you should go look up that clip.
I'm taking the Steelers.

Speaker 2 This is a reverse Ryan Clark game. Is there anything that happens to your spleen when you go from altitude to Pittsburgh? Yes.

Speaker 2 Is it harder for Denver to travel on the road than it is for other teams?

Speaker 1 French fries in your stomach weigh a little heavier.

Speaker 2 There you go. So

Speaker 2 I kind of like the Broncos in this one because I read today that Teddy Bridgewater is practicing. He's in the protocol.

Speaker 2 If he plays, I would take the Broncos, but I'm staying away from it until I find out. Ben Rothlessberger might not play Big Cat.
He's got a chest. And a hip.

Speaker 1 And a hip.

Speaker 2 He's so a new injury. He's got a hip.
He's probably not going to play. I would be shocked if Big Ben made it out there this weekend.
I mean, good God, how much more can one body go through?

Speaker 1 He really is,

Speaker 1 he's really just going to do the thing. where he spends the entire season adding injuries, which is what he usually does.

Speaker 1 But this one is especially sad because I don't think we can pinpoint where he's gotten injured He's just adding injuries so that when he gets worse and worse and worse You'll be like, well, I'm more and more injured.

Speaker 1 It's not my fault.

Speaker 2 So as you get into your mid-30s, you just start to have lingering aches all over when you wake up.

Speaker 2 And there's like a running tally that's in the back of your head of what hurts usually when you wake up. It's not really an acute injury.
It's just like, oh, your body sucks now because you're old.

Speaker 2 So what Big Ben's doing is he's taking that list that he has in his head and just saying them out loud. So he's like, Yeah, I've got this going on.
My hip hurts. Yeah, no shit, Ben.

Speaker 2 My hip hurts whenever I take a shit. Yes.
You know, like it's just something that happens to the human body when they get old.

Speaker 2 But Big Ben does, you know, sometimes he plays better when his back's against the wall. So maybe we get one more out of him.

Speaker 1 This is my stand my ground. Sometimes you got to do this with teams.
You got to say, it's now or never. If they don't win this game, forget them for the rest of the season.

Speaker 2 We should make a Ben Lives Matter flag. You know, like the flag that has the stripe down the middle?

Speaker 2 The stripe that's on the top of their helmet. Yes, yellow stripe.

Speaker 7 protect ben at all costs yes um billy i'm going with buccaneers versus the dolphins they're minus 10.

Speaker 1 i think that's going to be i think they're going to cover i think the dolphins might win outright yep seriously yep

Speaker 1 this feels

Speaker 1 the dolphins head cannot be worse right

Speaker 1 and the bucks

Speaker 1 are Super Bowl champs. They have a ton of injuries in their secondary.
They're coming off a very emotional win. Tom Brady even admitted it, that he's emotionally drained.

Speaker 1 Everything went into last week. No Gronk.

Speaker 2 Brady's sick.

Speaker 1 And again, the Dolphins cannot look worse. Like the Dolphins might be the worst team in the NFL is what everyone's saying to themselves right now.

Speaker 1 And that's the game that I actually, I kept it out of my can't lose parlay because that's what I'm scared of that. You know, who spent years in New England studying Brady's on the offense?

Speaker 1 Oh, Ryan Flores.

Speaker 2 That's right. He knows his number.

Speaker 1 But, Billy, that's okay because you have to.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying, I predicted the Chiefs were going to clown last week. Yeah.
Just clown on everybody, and they did. Underhand passes, all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 7 I think Brady's going to to have like 360 yards, four touchdowns.

Speaker 2 Okay, you think it's going to be a clown fest?

Speaker 1 I mean, this is where are they going to clown the dolphins?

Speaker 1 Tom Brady versus Dolphins. Always weird.

Speaker 1 Always funky.

Speaker 2 Tom Dolphins and the Patriots.

Speaker 7 He's got the suffering capable of clowning.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

Speaker 7 Like, he's not going to do anything unorthodox, like underhand stuff.

Speaker 1 I will, by the way, if Antonio Brown catches like three touchdowns this week, I will show me two back into the dark spot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I moved on from that, big hat. Yeah, no, I, I,

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 moved on. The worst part is, like, I did I tell the story on here that the guy that I on Monday morning, I was walking

Speaker 1 to get coffee, and a guy who's working at a construction site was like, hey, tough weekend. I was like, I had a pretty good weekend gambling.

Speaker 1 He's like, I saw the boys bet that parlay 14 to 1, and then he mimicked Antonio Brown dropping the ball. And I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 And there's. There were two passes.

Speaker 2 He should have caught the first one. The first one might have been even a better throw than the second.

Speaker 1 It's bad, too, because I mean, I think, shout out Blue Collar, shout out Jerry, Blue Collar Workers.

Speaker 1 But I would say that we're somewhat popular amongst the blue collar workers, and there's a bunch of construction going around my house.

Speaker 1 So, like, even today, I woke up and I was walking to get coffee, and there was another guy who's like, what's the pick tonight, big cat? And I was like, I'm going to

Speaker 1 tear down my house.

Speaker 1 They're going to fucking put a bomb in my house because I keep giving bad picks.

Speaker 2 You must know how women feel walking past a construction site, having a guy cat call you by insulting your parlay that missed. Yes, that's worse.
Yes, I would say.

Speaker 1 Way worse.

Speaker 2 I would much rather have a guy be like, hey, shake it, don't break it.

Speaker 1 Way worse. It's also so funny when I, like, if you tweet a story like that, and people are like, that didn't happen.
It's like, why would I, what would I,

Speaker 1 haven't we proven after the Magnum Condom video that, like, why would I make this up? Hey, big cat. You know what I mean? Like, I'll take a point.

Speaker 2 I'll take things that didn't happen for 400, Alex.

Speaker 1 It's not like a crazy, it's like, it's not like one of those

Speaker 1 stories where you're like, my kid walked in and said, you know, my two-year-old walked in and said, hey, daddy, why is like the earth warming yeah no it's like it's a fucking

Speaker 1 random stoolie said i saw the parlay you lost hank put down or uh jake put down the things that didn't happen alex for the basic sunday night tweets uh or next time rogers plays sunday night yeah also hank

Speaker 2 come on these guys are pros right yeah 10 points that's a lot of points that's a lot of points they get paid to play the game too i might have put him in my can't lose parlay so i actually take that i think i'm going to take a money line yeah i mean it's that's and you know

Speaker 1 too. Now that is one of those games where it is nice every now and then where you can bet a game and you'll know instantly whether you're in it or not.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like instantly you'll know.

Speaker 1 I would like to create some synergy with our bets too, so we're not clashing anymore.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. It was fun.
Even though we lost, it was fun to do it together.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I'm saying for the can't lose parlay and the hungry dog parlay.
Okay, so mine is

Speaker 1 one step. Also, I do not have the Bucs, Hank.

Speaker 2 The Bucs placed another cornerback on the injured reserve.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 So they're actually really banged up in the secondary.

Speaker 1 Hank, I have, for the one o'clock games, it's the Titans money line, the Patriots money line, and the Vikings money line. So if you want to do synergy, there it is.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go with our underdogs because, Jake, you have the same favorite as Hank. And I have the Dolphins.
As me. Okay, got it.
I have the Dolphins. Okay.
Dolphins. Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 All the reasons why. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Bubba.

Speaker 1 Lions plus nine and a half. I don't know.
I just keep taking them every week. I figure it's going to work out.

Speaker 1 That one I will be on the money line as well.

Speaker 1 I won't put it in the parlay for a while. I mean, it's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 The Lions are so due.

Speaker 1 TBS is so bad. Beyond due.
I see this going completely different. I see this as the game that everyone would be like, I can't believe you ever said Kirk Cousins is bad.
Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 week one is the only Lions game that I've watched, and I still just have that in my head. I'm like, oh, they're

Speaker 1 backdoor combat.

Speaker 2 The comeback that they had against the 49ers at the end of the game, like if people judge games by what you do against the spread, that's right up there with that Colts comeback against the Buccaneers on Monday Night Football in like 2001 or whatever.

Speaker 1 I just say, doesn't this feel like a

Speaker 1 24 for 28, four touchdowns, 315-yard Kirk Cousins game where everyone's like, you guys are so wrong.

Speaker 2 It's Kirktober, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Kirk Tobert. Didn't get off to a great start.

Speaker 2 Tough start, but listen, between now and Halloween, this is where Kirk Cousins makes his next contract.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 All right, PFT, your underdog. Okay, so I do love, absolutely love the Dolphins, and I'm trying to think if I want to change my...
No, we can't change your picks, right? All right, Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Okay. Dolphins.
There we go. Yeah, you can't change your picks.

Speaker 2 I've got a secret underdog.

Speaker 1 I will.

Speaker 1 I'll make sure you guys are there.

Speaker 1 I love my underdog.

Speaker 1 49ers plus five and a half. That feels like a lot.
You want to talk about a hungry dog? Five? All right, give me five. That's fine.
They're on it. Hungry Dog runs faster.

Speaker 1 Trey Lance looked like he had never played football before. He's got a week of practice.

Speaker 1 If there's like certain coaches that you want to trust to be like, all right, this guy, let's fit a game plan to his strengths and not make him be Jimmy Garoppolo. It is Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 1 I also think the Cardinals are very, very good. This is not a knock on the Cardinals, although I don't think there's, besides Clue, I don't think there's any Cardinals fans that

Speaker 1 will get upset about this, right? But the Cardinals, like, they killed the Titans, crushed the Titans. That was incredible.
They barely beat the Vikings. They barely beat the Jags.

Speaker 1 They were down nine in the fourth quarter to the Jags or the start of the fourth quarter. And then they crushed the Rams, which was a great game.

Speaker 1 I think you're going to get back to the letdown where it's like you see them have a big game, and then there's a little bit of a step back let down.

Speaker 1 So still a very good team, but it just feels like the letdowns.

Speaker 2 So in the West, West, they have four very good football teams. Correct.
Now, you look at the Cardinals and you look at the Rams, and you're like, these two teams can outscore anybody.

Speaker 2 The Seahawks could probably outscore a lot of teams, too, if the setting hits them just right.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 The 49ers, they're just a team that could kick anyone's ass. Right.

Speaker 2 I don't know if they're going to like beat anybody 40 to 10 this year, but from a physical standpoint, I feel like they're the most ass-kicking team in that division. They're a dangerous team.

Speaker 2 They're a more physical team than most every other. I'm trying to think of any other team in the NFC that I think can play as physical team.

Speaker 1 The Bucs defense plays very, very physical.

Speaker 2 Yeah, D'Mico Ryans is doing a good job as the defensive coordinator in San Francisco. So

Speaker 2 I like that too.

Speaker 1 I think that this could be one of those games where Trey Lance throws the ball 12 times and the Niners rush for 260 yards.

Speaker 2 They're going to put in

Speaker 2 the option offense that we saw a couple years ago when they had all their starting quarterbacks go down. And they were even having Nick Mullins play some option football.
Right. Right.

Speaker 2 So we've got a a much faster as the Crow Flies quarterback and Trey Lance, more dynamic athlete. I like the 49ers a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the 49ers have the ability at any given time to be like, we're just going to run the ball down your dick for an entire

Speaker 1 Sunday afternoon, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 2 Bully ball. They're going to kick some ass.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 7 Jets plus three against the Hawks.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 I think they're going to win outright.

Speaker 1 The Hawks. I like that.
Yeah. I think it'd be the same.

Speaker 1 I was thinking Atlanta Hawks.

Speaker 7 That always gets me. Atlanta Hawks.

Speaker 1 Atlanta Hawks, Falcons, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so

Speaker 7 yeah, they're going to win. There's a bunch of injuries on the

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley's not making the trip, which is big for the Falcons.

Speaker 2 Exactly. They have another receiver that's not making the trip either.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson isn't playing. Russell Wilson isn't playing for the Hawks.

Speaker 2 I'm so confused right now. Yep.

Speaker 1 No DK. No DK.
But yeah, I like that. I like it a lot.
I think Zach Wilson's going to have a little bit of a. He's going to have a moment.
We're going to say Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 Also, isn't Woody Johnson, isn't their owner, the ambassador to to london sure i think at least he used to be a fact i never need to know or he used to be came close to knowing that's a i think it's a fun fact and yeah i like the jets a lot i think that the jets win outright i think they go over to london beat the shit out of them and then thoughts and prayers to our friends over in england or listeners in england who have to put up with this game and then in just like what in a couple weeks you have to deal with the dolphins and the jaguars that's i think next week yeah that would they should just leave urban mine in london yeah Like they did with Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 2 Leave him on the tarmac. They should sue.

Speaker 1 England Chase. Although he's culturally, maybe not.
Like, that might be a cultural difference of Urban Meyer just grinding up against everyone. I don't know.
I don't know how they do it in London.

Speaker 2 Depends if he sweats or not. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 If he doesn't sweat, he's royalty.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 1 Bill's revenge game. Oh, all right.
Two and a half. Let's talk about it.
The game of the day, the game of the week. I'm so excited for this game.
I do think that

Speaker 1 is Frank Clark, when is Frank Clark coming back?

Speaker 2 That's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of when you should be like, start maybe betting on the Chiefs to start covering spreads. They're one and three against the spread.

Speaker 1 I don't know when he's coming back.

Speaker 1 So either way, I do think the Bills are going to win this game because I think

Speaker 1 the revenge factor and also this is one of those games where it's like, which team do you trust more to get a stop? And I would put that on the Bills.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Chiefs' defense is soft. They're the S-word.
I don't want to call them the S-word because I like Tyran Matthew a lot.

Speaker 2 And I feel like, you know, he's always liable to intercept at least two passes. Full practice.
In a game. Full practice for Frank Clark.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I might have just hurt myself with that.

Speaker 1 The Bills are a more complete team. Yeah, I didn't point out,

Speaker 1 someone pointed this out to me on Monday after our Sunday recap, but the Eagles also didn't punt last week.

Speaker 1 So that tells you where, because we talked about the Chiefs not punting, that tells you where the Chiefs' offense is, or defense is, excuse me,

Speaker 1 when the Eagles did not have to punt either. So, yeah, I'm

Speaker 1 Bill's mafia on Sunday night. Big time beta.
I like it too. Bills Mafia.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Who is up?

Speaker 1 Hank, over.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 my over is the Bears Raiders. Ooh, Justin Fields.
Another hungry dog. Hungry, hungry, hungry dog.
I will be, again,

Speaker 1 I like it when we can root together. I will be betting on the Bears' money line.
I think if they are playing well and they win that game, it's going to be a high-scoring game over 44.5.

Speaker 1 And Matt Nagy, in his infinite wisdom, just going as hard as he can for Andy Dalton every single week, and then Wednesday being like, Justin Fields is now our starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 And credit to Andy Dalton, incredibly nice guy, called Justin Fields and said, this is your time. This is your moment.
Which, if you remember, like a month ago, Andy Dalton said, this is my moment.

Speaker 1 This is my time.

Speaker 1 The story about Justin Fields not going out to dinner was so weird. No, he stayed in and watched film, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm not even saying it was weird that he didn't go out. I thought it was weird that it was out of the way.
That was a game tour. I'm not even saying it was weird that Justin didn't go out.

Speaker 1 I just thought it was weird that it was like a... Someone asked him.
Right, but then it turned into this national story, like Justin Fields because he cares about the football. You know why Hank?

Speaker 1 I know. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's weird that Justin Fields didn't go out to dinner. I thought it was weird that it was a story that...

Speaker 5 You know.

Speaker 2 Because people in the media love to say

Speaker 1 if his parents live in Chicago or live near him, like not going to dinner one night, who cares?

Speaker 1 I care I think it's he cares about football I think it means that he gets it Hank that's what's important also what's the point in going to dinner if you're a vegan

Speaker 1 right there's no real point to go to dinner French fries there's not there's nothing nothing that you can get outside of this like of your home is good I do like

Speaker 2 how Matt Nagy has become very quickly the guy that just whatever the last person in the room with him tells him yes that's what he goes out there and does so if they probably have a competition to see like, okay, I want him to implement the part of my game plan that I've been passionate about this week.

Speaker 2 So I'll schedule my meeting with Coach Nagy as close to game time as possible because I can convince him and he'll feel bad telling me no.

Speaker 1 Dude, I mean, remember a few weeks ago when he answered those questions saying like,

Speaker 1 like Justin Fields is not part of, like, it's not. a question about scheme when you ask about the starting quarterback and then had someone go back out and re-answer the question afterwards.

Speaker 1 Like the guy is an emotional mess. He's all over the place.
I'm happy, I'm very, very happy that Justin Fields is the starter.

Speaker 1 So, I'm going to give Matt Nagy some credit, even though it took him a while. So, I'm not going to bash him for the decision.
I just think it's very, everything

Speaker 1 is difficult in Hallis Hall right now to like in terms of communication. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bears should have had Matt Nagy do a fake press conference like they had Mark Tressman when they hired Mark Tressman instead of Bruce Arias.

Speaker 2 Well, they all, Matt Nagy also said that I've said this from the beginning. We'll know when he's ready to become the the starter.
It's like, no, wait, he's gaslighting America.

Speaker 2 Matt Nagy is, that's not what you told us.

Speaker 1 And it also,

Speaker 1 and it also just like, so it just happened overnight? Because he literally said on Monday that Andy's the starter.

Speaker 2 So I think what happened was during the week he realized that Andy Dalton, this is finally the week that Andy Dalton was officially healthy. So maybe on Monday, Dalton wasn't officially healthy yet.

Speaker 2 And the question that Nagy was answering was, if Dalton is healthy, is he still the starter? And in Nagy's mind, yes.

Speaker 2 But then he found out later on that week that now he's actually healthy, so now he has to figure out a lie to tell America of why he's going to Dustin Fields now.

Speaker 1 He also might have just been scared at the fact that he's going to Vegas. There'll be a lot of Bears fans there.
They'll be very drunk and partying all weekend.

Speaker 1 And if he had Andy Dalton as a starter, his safety would be in question.

Speaker 2 Yes, that's true.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be the first. Who have the Raiders played at home so far? Have they played? They played the Ravens week.

Speaker 1 And they played

Speaker 1 Dolphins. Dolphins.
This will be the first, like, oh, man, their home crowd advantage is kind of because

Speaker 1 I personally know a handful of people who are going out to watch the Bears. Like, it's going to be a lot of Bears fans there.
Okay. A lot of Bears fans.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Justin Fields, though, saying they asked him, like, what it's like to be preparing to be the starter for a franchise that envisions him as being the starter for 10 or 15 years.

Speaker 2 And he said, I don't know if we're going to be alive in 10 or 15 years. Yeah.
I love that. Yeah, Niners got to be regretting passing on him.

Speaker 1 I mean, that is a stupid question to be like 10 years from now. Like, what? Yeah.
I don't know. I'm just trying to win one game.

Speaker 1 All right, Bubba, you're over.

Speaker 1 Packers, Bengals, over 50 and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yeah, went with the Billy method.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 Packers-Bengles feel like a lot of points. Yeah, it felt like points.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it felt like points. The Billy method's doing well right now.

Speaker 7 I actually go against my method this week.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Shit.
Well, let's get to that in a second.

Speaker 2 My over is going to be Browns at Chargers, 47.

Speaker 2 I like a lot of points in this game. I know that there's talk about Baker Mayfield having an injured shoulder.
It's his left shoulder that's injured, his non-throwing shoulder.

Speaker 2 And I have some experience in this. I'm the Carson Wentz of torn Labrams.
I've had both of them torn. If your throwing arm is not damaged, it really shouldn't affect you that much.
But really,

Speaker 2 yeah, running, you don't want to get hit on it. Right.
Because it'll pop out maybe. But still,

Speaker 2 you can pop it back in pretty easily.

Speaker 1 But I think that actually does affect their offense because his ability to make some plays with his feet is semi-important.

Speaker 2 Well, he's going to try to avoid getting hit, definitely.

Speaker 2 He can still scramble.

Speaker 1 But that, like, should I scramble, should I not? I feel like there's this part of him that's like, no, because my shoulder's fucked.

Speaker 2 He spent like half the game last week scrambling, though, just dancing through the backfield.

Speaker 1 So I

Speaker 1 actually have the under in this game.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's going to make that much of a difference. And also, we didn't talk about this on Wednesday's show.
Boltman is back. Yes.

Speaker 2 Boltman was in attendance, and the full costume, the regalia was there. I don't know if this is an every week thing, but Boltman's got to be worth at least a touchdown per game.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Boltman is back.

Speaker 1 I have the under in this game, so we disagree here.

Speaker 1 I just think that both defenses are very, very good, and I'm worried about Baker's shoulder. And yeah, both defenses.

Speaker 1 The Browns defense has given up 20 points in the last 10 quarters.

Speaker 1 They're playing lights out football. All right, so my over, I'm going with Saints, Washington football team, over 43.5.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it, and this might sound like a Billy method, but who are the two guys right now currently playing quarterback that

Speaker 1 they'll show on red zone and just be like, fuck it, we're just going to throw it deep and it works. Yeah.
Taylor Heineke and Jameis Winston.

Speaker 1 So I think we'll have a few games where it's, or a few plays in this game where it's like, well, that didn't really make sense, but it worked out.

Speaker 2 I've convinced myself this is the week that the Washington football team from last year shows up.

Speaker 1 Scary Terry, best in the league.

Speaker 2 Scary Terry, no drops this year. He's a beast.
And he makes at least one catch every single week that it's like, holy fuck, how did he catch that ball?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like points over 43 and a half. All right, Billy, tell us, walk us through it.

Speaker 7 56.5.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be the Chiefs and the Bills. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And? As an over. I didn't like that number for an over, 56.5, but

Speaker 7 the teams. But I like the teams.

Speaker 1 That's a justified situation.

Speaker 7 I try not to let the teams influence the number, but I did this time.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's just like a Sunday night.

Speaker 1 Let's have a fun game.

Speaker 2 I want it to go over. It is tough.

Speaker 1 I want to do it. It is tough going in a game being like, we need more than eight touchdowns.
Yeah. That hurts to say.
But

Speaker 1 I will probably take it as well.

Speaker 7 I'm going against my method.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it's Sunday night.
It's fun. Just do it.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake.

Speaker 8 I'm with PFT here. I'm going to see you big catch with the Browns and the Chargers.
I know. The Browns, they laid an egg.
I know you were all in on them in that, was it the Vikings game?

Speaker 8 And it was just a dumpster fire, so hopefully they're looking to bounce back.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't think that Baker can miss Odell Beckham more than he missed him last year.

Speaker 1 He might try.

Speaker 2 He might, but I don't think it's possible to do that. He might try.

Speaker 1 All right. Hank, you're under, and then we'll hit any games we missed.
The Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Sorry, the Jets Hawks. Okay.
Sam.

Speaker 2 All right. The Hawks aren't scoring any points.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hawks will not score any points in London this year.
That's a wake-up, hungover, turn on the game, and hope it's like 10 to 2, 10 to 3. Got it.
Maybe 10 to 1.

Speaker 1 I was gonna say they're they're they have been woken up 10 to 1

Speaker 2 maybe you're so drunk that you think it's 10 to 1 yeah it's possible by the way for score a gammi no it's not safety on a uh two-point conversion no but that's yeah what that's worth two points no it's one is it i'm pretty sure safety on a two-point conversion

Speaker 1 safety on a two-point conversion yeah so if they if they have 98 yards what i think that's one point can you confirm that can you confirm that that's why one point are alive and score gamma?

Speaker 2 I don't think it's ever happened. I can't believe you guys have to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's ever happened.

Speaker 2 That's a game that I would expect that if any quarterback could pull that off, it'd be Philip Richardson.

Speaker 7 I think it has happened on one of those fumble things where the kick was fumbled and then it was kicked.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 it's a score

Speaker 1 point, yeah. No, I'm scoregami website.

Speaker 8 The gist is that it's possible for the defense to score one point on a PAT a time by getting a safety.

Speaker 2 What? That's fucking crazy. That's insane.
Why did they decide to make that rule?

Speaker 1 And why is it one? Why wouldn't it be two?

Speaker 2 It should be two. It should be two.
Also, safeties should be worth five points. Holy shit.
Safeties are so hard to get. Make them worth five points.

Speaker 7 Because if they score, isn't it worth two?

Speaker 1 Also, for safeties, if you, if you, safety, the rule should be if you end up in the end zone, it should be a safety. I hate forward progress.

Speaker 1 Yes, I hate when they're at like a one-inch line where it's like the guy's clearly tackling. He runs out and then they all tackle him.

Speaker 1 If you can get, if you can push them, it should just basically, if you can push the ball carrier back behind the line of scrimmage, behind the end zone, that should be a safety win.

Speaker 1 I think the refs error on the side. Like the refs do everything in their power to make sure it's not a safety win.
Almost, there was one in the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 I feel like it was maybe the Seahawks with Russell Wilson where it wasn't even close to not being a safety and they just called it not a safety.

Speaker 1 You just basically put the ball over the line and then they're like, all right, the play's dead. Here's what they should do.

Speaker 2 If your shoulder pads land in the end zone, it's a safety. No, if you're just down in the end zone.
Yeah, when I see contact with your body happen in the end zone, that to me is a safety. That's

Speaker 1 shoulder bad. If your knees down,

Speaker 1 if you get pushed back, like you could get out of the end zone, but if you end up in the end zone, it should be a safety. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Where you land should matter for something in that case.

Speaker 7 I feel like refs don't like calling safeties because for some reason it's like a super hard thing to do for their job.

Speaker 2 It's just a theory.

Speaker 7 That's so weird.

Speaker 1 That gives you too confusing. It's fun.

Speaker 7 No, like calling a safety problem. But

Speaker 2 if you're jacked up, if you're Ed Hockely,

Speaker 1 but it looks like a scorecard.

Speaker 7 I don't know. All right, learn something new every day.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy stat. He can score one point.
All right, PFT. 10-1 is the start of the Jets Hawks game.

Speaker 7 Okay, my...

Speaker 2 This is my under.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm going to go

Speaker 2 Eagles at Panthers.

Speaker 2 Eagles at Panthers.

Speaker 1 So we haven't talked about this game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we have not.

Speaker 2 I'm pissed off at Adam Schefter going to this game. Because of the Stefan Gilmore news.
Yeah. Got traded from the Patriots.
Adam Schefter, everybody at ESPN was saying, guess what?

Speaker 2 He's going to be a free agent. And then he's one of those free agents where literally every team, no matter who you rooted for, everybody was like, oh, we could take a shot at him.

Speaker 2 We could use some help at cornerback. Everybody got their hopes up about it.
And then guess what happens like two hours later? Turns out he was traded for a sixth-round pick.

Speaker 2 And fans of every team are like, we would have given up so much more than a sixth-round. pick.
You can't do that, Adam.

Speaker 2 You cannot report that a player is going to be a free agent and then take it away from us and tell us that he's traded to the Panthers.

Speaker 1 It was very, very mean. It's fucked up.
Very, very mean.

Speaker 1 This is a like,

Speaker 1 who's going to be,

Speaker 1 I don't even know. It's not a loser-leave town because it's too early in the season.
But this is an are you for real game because, and it's different levels of for real.

Speaker 1 Because if the Eagles win, it's are you for real? Are you going to be like one of those teams that's hanging around maybe eight and nine, nine and eight?

Speaker 1 If the Panthers win this game, I think they're back on track to maybe being a decent team.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they could be a playoff team.

Speaker 1 Like, Like, I'm going to come across,

Speaker 1 I'm going to come out of this game thinking the loser stinks. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And you're probably going to be right about it. Yeah.
This is like the Eagles' chance to save their season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you stink, Bull?

Speaker 2 Yeah, if they lose this game,

Speaker 2 it's going to be some tough days ahead for the Eagles fans.

Speaker 1 All right. So my under is that Chargers Browns game.
Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 7 So this one also goes against my method. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 7 39.5.

Speaker 2 Oh, Steelers. Broncos Steelers here.

Speaker 7 Broncos Steelers. Just like anything in the 30s shouldn't be an under.
If Drew Locke

Speaker 2 is playing this game, though, I feel like it could be Texas.

Speaker 1 And also, but Pixels.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 We'll have to run the math Prisco about that.

Speaker 1 What's the point of having a method? Well, you explained it last week.

Speaker 1 Not but seven days later. How did Billy do, by the way, Jake, on the ones that he was trying to win and the ones he was trying to lose?

Speaker 2 Last week, he

Speaker 8 missed the over, hit the under.

Speaker 2 The week before he hit both.

Speaker 1 No, but remember he said that this is a game he's intentionally trying to lose? I don't know. All right, you don't have to note it.
Can you tell me anyway?

Speaker 7 I lost that one as I planned, but then the Jets won, which I did not plan. Got it.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what's your planned loser this week?

Speaker 7 I'm trying to lose all of them because I'm getting too high

Speaker 7 in the rankings. I could slip into second easily, so I'm trying to lose all of them this week.
Okay. Got it.

Speaker 1 So that's why you're going against your method. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 That makes a lot of sense. I'm getting way too high.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 8 I'm with Hank and Liam. I'm calling this a Lunder.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 what do we think? That's screwed. Hank and Liam, I think, are awesome, Jake.

Speaker 1 Their faces were

Speaker 1 like it. Jake, that's great.
That's a disgusting joke. You don't like it? PFD likes it.
Jake, of course you're doing it. PFD.
I love it.

Speaker 2 I love it. That was great.

Speaker 2 Duh. Because now we have something worse than Ezekiel Elliott to be said on this body.
Lunder.

Speaker 8 You can only use it twice a year, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Lunder.
No, it's awesome. Lunder.
I'm going to be deported. I'm going to have to bet the Lunder on it just because of that.
Man. Lunder.
Barstow Sports Buck. Oh.

Speaker 1 Lunder 45. London.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like a gut punch without having it.

Speaker 1 Just right in my stomach. Just lost some air.

Speaker 1 That's how Houdini is going to hit it. It's legendary.
It is.

Speaker 1 It's absolutely legendary. It's already legendary.

Speaker 1 Where were you?

Speaker 1 All right. Games we didn't hit.
Patriots, Texans, is Patriots just going to kill them? You think? Ah.

Speaker 1 Texans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now I'm like, maybe not. Although Davis Mills and that long neck going against Bill Belichick.

Speaker 2 I mean, Patriots lose this one, Bill Belichick, hot seat.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Probably.

Speaker 1 If they did lose this one, Felger would probably say it. Hot seat.
And then the Cowboys Giants game, which should actually be a great game.

Speaker 1 I was actually thinking about this before doing some prep for this show.

Speaker 1 If we did BCS rankings for the teams right now, I think the Super Bowl would maybe be the Cardinals versus the Cowboys because the Cowboys have the best loss

Speaker 2 they do have a pretty they have the best loss an outstanding loss they lost by two points to the box but their opening night their loss got worse because their loss also lost to the rams yeah that's true um but they also have one of the best wins at LA for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 But when you say that the Chargers have the best loss then because they lost the number one BCS team, the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 But the Chargers, who have the Chargers beaten?

Speaker 2 They've beaten the Washington football team.

Speaker 1 This is the worst bit going on. It's not a bit.

Speaker 2 We're actually talking about the Washington football team, the Raiders, and the Chiefs. That's a power win against the Chiefs.
Yeah, that is a power win. Especially if the Chiefs win on Sunday night.

Speaker 2 Interesting. That win becomes a whole lot better.

Speaker 7 Someone on TikTok did map out that the Jets are technically better than the Bills by all that logic.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys also beat a 3-0 Panthers team, which they were ranked top 10 going in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but the Panthers, they might not be for real. But we don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm saying right now. Right now.
Right now, because they beat a 3-0 team, and they beat a 3-1 team, and they lost to the Super Bowl champs on opening night. And they're far away from their only loss.

Speaker 1 I think the Cowboys might be number two in the BCS.

Speaker 2 You could make an argument of the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 They're in the conversation. They might be the Cincinnati, actually, that's complained about getting left out.

Speaker 2 No one respects the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 I think we should do this every week. The BCSS.
BCS rankings. The rankings of the Cowboys.
I like it. I've been entire NFL.

Speaker 2 Have you guys thought about the possibility of having the Chargers against the Rams in the Super Bowl in Los Angeles? That would be crazy. The ultimate loser-leaves town game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and there would still be no home field advantage whatsoever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be incredible.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 Anything else if nobody went to the game until halftime? Everyone's late getting there?

Speaker 8 I want to correct myself on the one-point safety. It has happened once before in college.
So you block the extra point,

Speaker 8 and then you're trying to go the other way for two points.

Speaker 1 And then they go backwards and you tap out on your own.

Speaker 1 That is the same thing. That becomes a point safety.
One-point safety. So you get safety.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that also means that the game can't ever be 1-0 because you have to score first down to accept the extra points.

Speaker 1 But it can't be 10-1. Yeah, see, 1-0.

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 2 it can't be 10-1. It can't be your first point.
It could be like

Speaker 2 6-2.

Speaker 2 That could be the sort of a game.

Speaker 1 Well, 6-2 is normal. Wait, oh, they got the one-point.
So it just becomes

Speaker 2 the extra point is good.

Speaker 1 You score a Gamma.

Speaker 8 You can do 6-1. You can't do 7-1.

Speaker 2 No, you can't do 6-1 because that would be your extra point that gets blocked after you score a touchdown.

Speaker 8 But the other team gets the point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's saying the other team gets a point.

Speaker 2 If you recover it and go back into your own end zone,

Speaker 1 no, no, Jake, no. I think you're right.
That one just happens. The Jets truly Falcons.
Falcons score a touchdown. It's 6-0.

Speaker 1 The thunder is in play. On the extra point, the Jets...

Speaker 1 block the field goal and then score.

Speaker 1 That's two points. There's no situation where they could block the field goal and get one point, right?

Speaker 1 Correct. What Jake is saying is.
I'm just reading the pro football talk.

Speaker 8 If the defense gets the ball in the field to play on a conversion attempt and the defensive player takes the ball into his own end zone and is tackled, the result will be a one-point safety.

Speaker 8 The offensive team will get one point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if the kicking safety, so yeah, then it can't be. So it would be 7-0.
It'd be 7-0-7-0.

Speaker 2 You can't have one point scored in football.

Speaker 1 So how do you get... So I don't know why.
You can't

Speaker 1 have one's available.

Speaker 1 Scorigami has fucked you. It's betrayed you.
Your number one love has betrayed you.

Speaker 2 You've gotten too deep into it. You're like Al G rhythm.

Speaker 1 Wait, but I think. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm trying to think of it.
I don't know. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is good, though, because this makes the BCS thing look good. Yeah, I actually like that conversation.
Yeah, the BCS conversation is good compared to this conversation.

Speaker 2 Are you the right?

Speaker 1 We know one point safety is a thing.

Speaker 2 Yes, it is. You guys want to talk about whether or not you can dunk a free throw?

Speaker 1 Ooh. Yeah.
let's get into it.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy, what are you going to say? One last thing before we get to fancy fucking teams.

Speaker 7 I was just going to say if you return it 100 yards back, then like the kicker picks it up and gets tackled into his own end zone. I think that's one point for the other team.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 No, I think that'd be two points still.

Speaker 1 That's like Mississippi State had like a third and 90. Remember that? Yeah.
Against Louisiana Tech. That was awesome.
They just kept on fumbling. Put on extra points.

Speaker 1 All right, fancy fuckboys.

Speaker 2 Fancy fuck boys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're back, boys. What up? What up? What up, what up? What up? What up? Zawoop, Zawoop.
What? What? Been watching Wu-Tang.

Speaker 1 My name is Giuseppe Guatemala. San Giuseppe.

Speaker 1 My stardom is heckling. Yeah, buddy.

Speaker 6 You guys see this fucking pussy from New Jersey? No. He was at the Sox game.
Big pussy.

Speaker 1 He brought a fucking article. I thought I got a shot.
I saw him in the basement.

Speaker 2 Turned out the bottom.

Speaker 1 I thought how he watched Red Sox fans harassing Garrett Garrett Cole by holding up a container of spite attack and a Kermit the Fraud puppet, and he was all butthurt about it. No, no, my butt.

Speaker 1 If you can't heckle in the fans, what's the point of paying for a ticket? For real, for real, for real. Uh, my sit him, let me pull up my notes.

Speaker 6 This one Soto. Soto, you see, this fucking pussy gets eliminated from the postseason and still shows up.
We're dropping a lot of P-Wids over there.

Speaker 1 I remember back in my day, we got eliminated. We went to the fucking bar and drowned our sorrows and wish we could have won the whole thing, but no.
Or the golf course.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's out there fucking cheering like he's like he's a fan.

Speaker 2 Whatever happens, support you teammates. Being a good citizen, disgusting.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. My sleeper, Damian Harris.

Speaker 1 Going up against the Texans. I think the Pats are gonna blow him out.
My sleeper last week, maybe the best sleeper in the history of this fucking segment.

Speaker 1 Two for two again. Who is it? Damian Harris.
Correl Paterson. Oh, that was sick.

Speaker 1 Wow. Hey, all right.
What's up? This is Nick Sirian.

Speaker 2 How's it going?

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up? Hey, hey, hey. Get that highlight on your face.

Speaker 2 Hey, you know what I'm saying? I'm starting Jake Elliott. I'm starting Jake Elliott.
He's a kicker. You don't like it the field goal?

Speaker 1 I kick another field goal.

Speaker 1 You don't like it to field goal. You're liking the field goal.
You're liking the field goal. I'm going to make you the field goal.
Treat them like that.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 2 in Italy, we have a strong tradition of kicking the ball over the upright. Roberto Bascu.

Speaker 1 You don't like it to field though? I'm making another feel better. I'm making this dude spicy.
I'm sitting. I'm sitting too spicy.

Speaker 2 I'm sitting cancer. I'm sitting cancer.

Speaker 2 Fuck you, Cancer. You shithead, you're on notice.
You pussy. Yeah.
You fucking pussy. You see how many different...

Speaker 2 You see how many different colors? It's not just titties. Not just titties anymore, Hank.
It's all cancers. All cancers matter.
And we're going after all of them one by one.

Speaker 2 You've seen the highlighters on the shirts, on the hats. Roger Didell is single-handedly choking out cancer with his bare hands.

Speaker 1 Donating 3% of proceeds to actually

Speaker 6 have 3% more than you.

Speaker 2 We don't billionaire shame, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hey, get a colonoscopy. Hey, hey, hey, cancer.
Now you just can't leave.

Speaker 2 Cancer, fuck off, cancer. Colonoscopy, get your butthole checked.
Shout out to Urban Meyer. My sleeper,

Speaker 2 I'm sleeping El Trend. That's right, United States men's national team, soccer team.

Speaker 1 That's right. We care about football over here in the United States.

Speaker 2 El Trend, guess what, Jamaica? You reggae boys, you're fucked up. You fucked up, reggae boys.

Speaker 1 play a real sport yeah we got football on football all right mice uh what's up guys it's Giancarlo Stantonio

Speaker 1 Stanton Santonian Stantonio my stardom is Josh Allen people forget he's got a rocket arm he's gonna show out on Sunday night I'm so excited for our boy Joshi to get it fucking on national TV audience this is where you show up mice you make it the scroll my sitem is bronxy the turtle fuck that turtle turtle soup where the fuck is an aguayo when you need him?

Speaker 1 That turtle didn't win the Bronx bombers. Shit.
Shit.

Speaker 2 That turtle is not fit to carry turtles.

Speaker 1 And my sleeper is the 15% of colleges that said that they would hire Urban Meyer next year. So shout out those 15% that stand by their man.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Liberty University.

Speaker 6 They're in.

Speaker 2 How we doing? How we doing?

Speaker 6 It's Rigatoni Risotto.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 Riggy Riggy. My starterly is Zach Wilson because he was the rookie of the week.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Let's go Jets Rookie of the Week.

Speaker 1 That's rookie of the week.

Speaker 1 Is that Rickatoni's rookie of the week?

Speaker 7 No, that's Pepsi, bro.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's Pepsi. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 2 You say Rookie of the Week?

Speaker 6 Yeah, no. Rookie of the Week.

Speaker 1 The Ricky of the Week.

Speaker 2 Yeah, then we got my Sidem. It's the fucking Lunda because Jack Wilson's going to throw Sony.
I thought this was going to be one of those fantasy. Anyway, my sleeper.

Speaker 1 Look at the Lundertaker. He's back, baby.
My sleeper, Squid game, low-key.

Speaker 6 I have a great show.

Speaker 1 Hype. Yeah, you watch it instead of watching your Bronx bomb as some fan.

Speaker 1 Damn. Don't be nibbly.
Don't be violent. We call it

Speaker 1 though. Kyle's gonna be a little bit more.
Smarty underground take you got there. A lot of paint jobs.
A lot of paint jobs. Don't go out on a limb there.

Speaker 6 A lot of paint jobs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's my, that's my voice.

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 that story: the 85% of college ADs wouldn't take Urban Meyer. So it's just like, this is how many people will lie on record.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's absolute 100% bullshit.

Speaker 1 A million percent bullshit. Yeah, the ADs that won't take Urban Meyer are the AD of University of Alabama, the AD of Clemson.

Speaker 2 If your team is currently good, you would not take them. But yeah, if Urban Meyer could guarantee you a trip to a BCS bull game, a million percent you'd take them.

Speaker 1 In.

Speaker 1 All right, that's our full preview. Let's get to our interviews.
We've got Tyson Fury coming up first, then Ezekiel Mitchell, something a little different for the people.

Speaker 1 He is a professional bull rider. Incredible interview in person with Ezekiel Mitchell.
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All right, here he is. Tyson Fury.

Speaker 1 Tyson, what's up?

Speaker 9 The sky, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do it. Let's hop right in.
So we have a very special guest. It is Tyson Fury, the champ.
He has his big fight on Saturday night, the trilogy against Deontay Wilder.

Speaker 1 It's great to have you on.

Speaker 1 So I love this fight, not because there's history and it's the trilogy, but I feel like there's actual bad blood here.

Speaker 1 Do you fight better when you have that anger? Are you really hate this guy?

Speaker 9 I don't have any anger. I don't hate the guy.
Guy's a pathetic loser. So how could I have any anger with him?

Speaker 1 Um, at all, I like that. So, I mean, he even he's trying to play mind games with you by being a little bit more silent in the lead-up to this, and you're not going to let that bother you.

Speaker 9 Oh, it's all irrelevant because when it comes down to the night, all of talking doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 9 I can never be matched with uh talking in boxing, never, never in a million years could I ever be matched.

Speaker 9 I've never ever found my equal who can ever even compete with me on the stage of press conferences and talking about boxing and stuff.

Speaker 9 So, but it all means absolute zero when you get in a boxing ring you could talk you know 500 million people with you it doesn't mean anything because at the end of the day you're going to go in there and fight and that's it yeah so so mentally once you step into the ring do you do you go to a place of anger are you calm are you are you thinking about your tactics or do you kind of black out and just you know you trust your instincts and fight there's no anger i think the man who has anger in a boxing match will lose

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 9 this is not an angry um situation to be in it's a

Speaker 9 a sporting contest

Speaker 9 um

Speaker 1 and i've done all my training when i get in there i just do what i got to do be relaxed and enjoy it yeah you look like you're in incredible shape um in terms of the second fight uh was that the most pathetic excuse ever that he said that uh his the the garb that he was wearing slowed his legs down uh in his entrance.

Speaker 9 I'm not sure. There's been a lot of pathetic excuses over the years from people who lost fights.
But I think that's got to be up there. One of his many 50 excuses anyway.
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do a quick ranking of his most pathetic excuses. Top three most pathetic excuses from Deontay Wilder.

Speaker 9 I think the best one was his trainer drug Diswater.

Speaker 1 That was a cracker.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. It's like a racehorse.
That's a really good one.

Speaker 2 It's not his fault. Somebody slipped him a Mickey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And then the second one was, I had metal objects in my gloves.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good. Yep.

Speaker 9 And then then his third one would be:

Speaker 9 the costume was too heavy that he wore to the ring.

Speaker 2 I actually, I do think that the costume made a difference, especially if you look at what he did versus how you entered the ring. You literally got carried into the ring.

Speaker 2 You didn't have any miles at all on your legs. That's smart.
He walked through, I think, the entire MGM casino floor. I think he did a lap with the pit bosses wearing that giant robe and they came in.

Speaker 2 So I could see how he'd be tired. He did a half marathon, basically.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I can make a point for that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had a question about number one, the first fight you guys had together.

Speaker 1 In the 12th round, when you got knocked down, it almost looked like there was a second where you're like, I know I have a few seconds here. Let me compose myself.

Speaker 1 Or is that all instincts when you get back up? Or were you like, all right,

Speaker 1 give me like two seconds and then I'm good to go?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think it's just instinct. You know, when you get hit and knocked down, I don't think you know what you're doing at some point of it.
You just get up and that's it.

Speaker 9 If you can't get up, you get up. And if you can't, then you can't.
And that's it. Most of it's instinct, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I just, I love that moment because it did, and maybe I was thinking about it too much, but it really did feel like you're like, all right, I'm good. Here we go.
I'm fucking good.

Speaker 1 And then you get back up. And it was, I mean, it was an incredible, incredible moment.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.
It was a credit. It was an incredible moment.
Looking back on it, it was definitely an incredible moment.

Speaker 9 Definitely go down in history as

Speaker 9 the best get up off the floor ever.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What

Speaker 2 went through your mind when you were in the ring with him and you decided to taste his blood? Was that just like instinct, like in the moment you're going to do it? Or was that to intimidate?

Speaker 9 Pre-fighter meeting, I wanted to taste his blood. And I got the opportunity and just did it.

Speaker 1 Why not? Yeah, we'd have. What's that?

Speaker 2 What did it taste like? Did it taste like your own blood?

Speaker 9 It tastes like the blood of a coward.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 So that means

Speaker 1 you've tasted blood of cowards before.

Speaker 9 Only Deontay Wilder.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 The press conference you guys did in the summer, you had a five-minute stare-down

Speaker 1 where you just basically, it was like a staring contest. Deontay left before you.
How long could you have lasted in that stare-down?

Speaker 9 As long as it took to get the victory.

Speaker 1 I'm not joking when I say this. If you haven't seen it, it is all of five minutes of them just staring at each other.
And Tyson won that. And it was incredible.
All right, Rob, you're right.

Speaker 1 All right. So so I know you got to go in a second.
I had a quick question about your brother. I was actually at the fight in Cleveland.
I was part of the broadcast.

Speaker 1 What did you think of his performance?

Speaker 9 I think he did what he had to do, got the W, and on to the next one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so who's the next one going to be?

Speaker 9 Well, we're hoping it's going to be Jake Paul. So I've heard all his talking off the two of them.
I want to see a fucking fight.

Speaker 2 Right. How do you think that ends up? What do you think that fight looks like?

Speaker 9 I think it'll be a big build-up, a lot of talking, a lot of promotional stuff. But

Speaker 9 I think in the end, Tommy Knox can clean out.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 do you respect what Jake Paul has done in the ring, building himself up into a fighter?

Speaker 1 He seems like he's taking it seriously.

Speaker 9 Not just the fighting side of things, because they're just play boxers, aren't they? But to bring a load of people to boxing, a load of views and stuff, that's pretty good. That's very good, actually.

Speaker 9 Yeah. To bring the attention that they've brought into the game, all of these YouTubers, TikTokers, and famous people, that's good for the real sport to boxing.

Speaker 9 Never mind all this play about boxing and celebrity boxing and looking. Anybody can be a boxer.
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's great for the sport, but

Speaker 8 you know,

Speaker 9 it's definitely a playtime pantomime stuff. Right, so a lot of talking and TV and media stuff, and it attracts people to it.
People are interested in all that rubbish.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so fast forward to after this fight's over. Let's just say that you win, you get a knockout.

Speaker 2 Are you still thinking about maybe going to MMA after?

Speaker 9 No, all I'm thinking about is winning the fight and then going home, taking the kids' trick-or-treating

Speaker 9 and having a nice Christmas. And then we'll see what happens after all of that.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. I mean, that sounds like a pretty good fall, especially after winning a fight.
Now, after, like, directly after the fight,

Speaker 1 it's got to be, you got to feel like you can drink a million beers because you have all the adrenaline and everything going through you from a big fight, right?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How many, what's the most amount of beers you've drank after winning a fight?

Speaker 9 I don't really drink after fights, to be honest.

Speaker 9 I'm not in the mood of drinking. And with all the adrenaline that's running through your body, I think it's near impossible to get drunk after a fight.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Yeah.
Exactly.

Speaker 9 See, if I do go out for a drink after everybody, I'll have a couple of lights and then that's me done. I go back to the room, not interested.

Speaker 9 Me for the first two weeks after a big fight, I'm on a total downer.

Speaker 1 Interesting. So it's just like

Speaker 1 everything builds up and then you're for two weeks, you're kind of just fading back and not feeling yourself.

Speaker 9 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 The higher the highs, the lower the lows, that's for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so I know you got to go. What is your official prediction of when you're going to knock out Deontay Wilder on Saturday night? Also, by the way, let me just throw this out there.
Incredible.

Speaker 1 This fight card is incredible because all the undercards are heavyweights as well. So it's going to be awesome to watch and there's going to be a ton of knockouts and I'm very, very excited.

Speaker 1 But tell us when you're going to actually knock him out.

Speaker 9 When I start hitting him in the face and he doesn't hit back, that's the time he's going to go down.

Speaker 1 Okay. I remember when we.

Speaker 9 You know, whether it's round one, round 10, round 11, round two, whatever it's going to be, as long as I get the W, I don't care what round it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 I remember we were watching the last fight, and when he started to bleed out of his ear, that was a good indication that you, you know, you smelled blood in the water.

Speaker 2 You smelled cowards' blood in the water. Would you say that, like, the ear is the worst, the worst hole on your face to bleed out of?

Speaker 9 Not sure, you know. I've had plenty of blood come out of me from my Uh, eyes, eyebrows, nose, everything.
He is

Speaker 9 so it's all pretty bad, to be honest. It's all pretty gruesome when you're the one who's taking the punishment, right?

Speaker 1 Yes, right, yes. Well, uh, best of luck on uh Saturday night.
Uh, we look forward to uh watching, it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 I also just got a text that is your brother stuck on a Spirit Airlines flight right now?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's going on with that? Why is he flying Spirit?

Speaker 9 He's actually stuck on a Spirit Airlines right now. I think he's somewhere in um

Speaker 9 on the way here

Speaker 9 he uh he flies spirit because he's such a humble type of a guy who likes to be a man of the people and fly with the normal people and all that you know not all of us are stuck up wankers who need to fly in a private jet to prove that there are somebody oh that just proves you're a idiot who wants to spend your money on something stupid oh i like that i like that i'm a guesser teont walder i fly i fly in a plane called Ryanair.

Speaker 9 That's the cheapest you can fly on in England. And when the tax man looks at my records, they laugh and say, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 9 A heavyweight champion of the world flies on the cheapest air flights you can.

Speaker 9 But guess what? In 10, 15 years, when all the boxing is done and all these idiots are all flat broke working in a petrol station somewhere, pumping gas, I'll still be a multi-millionaire.

Speaker 9 Because it's not how much you can earn, it's how much you can save.

Speaker 2 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 You at least aren't. aren't you upgrade to

Speaker 1 earning millions yeah you get rich through saving have you allowed yourself to just upgrade to the windows the window seat so that you can get a little bit more leg i don't i don't i don't like upgrading i'll just sit in the cheapest seat possible but you know what it's all the same we're gonna arrive at the same time it doesn't matter that actually that actually makes me even more confident about saturday night because it's the old i think like teddy atlas quote maybe you don't you don't do road work in silk pajamas you're you're keeping the uh you're keeping the grit about you, and that that means that you're hungry for more.

Speaker 9 Listen, there's an old cliche, like all these boxers and famous people, sports people, when they make a few few dollars, the first thing they want to do is go and flash it, put it on the neck or what, or the wrist or whatever.

Speaker 9 And after it's all finished, 90% of them end up broke.

Speaker 9 So, you know, I'm not interested in wearing a flash

Speaker 9 watch or a chain or something to make myself look posh. I'm interested in actually living the life of an athlete, training hard, and that's all I'm interested in.

Speaker 9 I don't care about the rest of the stuff.

Speaker 2 I love it. You'll have more money to spend on Jaeger bombs for Man Yu fans.
Yes.

Speaker 9 England fans, that was actually, not Manu fans.

Speaker 1 All right, Tyson, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 Best of luck.

Speaker 1 And hopefully, you stay champ.

Speaker 9 God bless everybody. Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks.
See ya.

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Speaker 2 And now here's Ezekiel Mitchell.

Speaker 9 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 All right, we now welcome on a very special guest. Actually, the second

Speaker 1 pro bull rider we've ever had on the show. We had Jess Lockwood on.
Do you know Jess?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's all right.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. So

Speaker 1 it's Ezekiel Mitchell. We're very excited to have you on.

Speaker 1 You got a big event. I don't know when this is going to run, but you do have a big event.
You're in New York. You're in person.
This is going to be great.

Speaker 1 So first of all, how is the season going? Let's start there, and then we'll work our way to basically asking you crazy questions about bulls and possibly bull testicles.

Speaker 5 Well, honestly, if I had to say something about this season, I've learned a lot about myself. It's been a season full of minor injuries that I haven't had to deal with in the past.

Speaker 5 So it's really kind of weighed on me. But we're getting things turned around now, so it's all good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what do you got right now? What are you dealing with? Give us the rundown.

Speaker 5 So earlier this year, I had a pulled groin.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 And you can't ride bulls with that at all. I learned that very quickly.

Speaker 5 Then I broke a rib, and then

Speaker 1 kind of a rib doctor. Do you want me to look at that?

Speaker 5 I don't really even know.

Speaker 5 I didn't go to the hospital. I just know sports med tell me it was broke.

Speaker 2 There's nothing they can do about a broken rib.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 5 And then now my wrist has been pretty janky, my riding wrist.

Speaker 1 Oh, janky wrist.

Speaker 5 Yeah, janky wrist.

Speaker 2 Did the doctor tell you that one?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was like the exact medical term. Janky wrist.

Speaker 1 Janky wrist.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, when you can see a doctor, are they the same doctors that treat the bulls, too? Is it one guy who's like, because obviously, you know, when you have an on-site

Speaker 1 physician or like for like football, let's say, there's a trainer. Is there a trainer that comes out if the bulls get injured too?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they have an

Speaker 5 on-call vet. Okay.
One of the guys, I don't know which one it is, but he's overall that. And he'll have...
a bunch of guys come in or he'll have them all on on call.

Speaker 1 So if anything happens, then a vet's within 15, 20 minutes i feel like i would trust a vet more than a real doctor well because vets know a vet can operate on a sheep it can do like a frog it can do a bird they have to know everything yeah a doctor it's like you're kind of lazy if you just want to work on humans and a doctor like you have to doctors rely on the humans telling them what's wrong a vet like you just can stand there and a vet can be like yeah you got a janky wrist yeah exactly like i can see that exact medical term

Speaker 2 exact medical term so when you have a janky wrist or when you have an actual injury that you're dealing with, do you think that the bull can tell?

Speaker 5 No, no, I don't think, I don't know. They're pretty smart, but I don't think they can tell.

Speaker 5 They can tell more so if you're nervous or if things don't feel right with you, they kind of feed off your energy. So,

Speaker 5 yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 2 So, when they feed off your energy, you have to get yourself into a calm place before you get it. Or do you get amped up when you get on the bull?

Speaker 5 I try to just be confident. I don't really try to get myself too amped up.
I'm already like an amped up person as it is.

Speaker 5 So, I guess I'm more of a try to calm myself down and that way I can actually focus on the things that I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So when we had Jess on, I don't think we got into this, but the process of a competition, I'm very interested in this.

Speaker 1 So you show up and there's a computer system that just randomly decides which bull you'll be riding that day. Is that how it works? Exactly.
So is there

Speaker 1 any type of scouting that you have done where you're like, all right, if I get this bull, I know exactly what I'm going to do. If I get this bull, I know exactly what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 Like, do you have that knowledge of all the bulls on the roster?

Speaker 5 For the most part, we kind of do. So, we have like a website that's called Pro Bull Stats, and you can type in any name of any bull that

Speaker 5 you'll have for that weekend.

Speaker 1 Pro Bull Stats.

Speaker 5 And actually, you can look up the riders as well, but you just look up.

Speaker 5 Say this weekend, I don't know my bull's name. I forgot already.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've already got it picked.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so they pick them on like Wednesday, and then we'll know our first round at least, and then tomorrow they'll pick sometime tonight, I guess.

Speaker 1 Who's the baddest bull currently?

Speaker 5 Currently, it's a bull called Whoopah.

Speaker 1 Whoop-Whoopah? Whoopah.

Speaker 2 How do you spell it?

Speaker 5 I think it's W-O-O-P-A-A.

Speaker 1 Okay, Whoopah. And why is that bull batter than all the other bulls?

Speaker 5 Because he's produced the biggest numbers. He jumps the highest, kicks the hardest, and he's just an incredible animal athlete.

Speaker 1 So has the saber metrics analytical revolution come to bull riding? Because that's always you know like we obviously had it with baseball was going to seem like the first sport.

Speaker 1 Are there guys who are crunching the numbers on like velocity of kicks and jumps and like torque and all these things for different bulls?

Speaker 5 I think they try to do that, but it's kind of hard to track all that as of now.

Speaker 5 But for the most part, we just have judges that have been trained to pretty much look and pick apart what's supposed to look, what bulls are supposed to look like.

Speaker 1 So when you get it, so I forgot that it's judged. So if you're on a bull that might be deemed weaker, do you get judged differently?

Speaker 5 The bull will get judged differently. You still have to ride him, and you have to be in control.
And the better you ride him, the better off he can be.

Speaker 2 It's like you play who you play in college football. Like if they're ranked number, if you schedule a good team,

Speaker 2 they're number two in the country, you beat them, you can't help it if they go on three games.

Speaker 1 What if you walk out and the bulls just not feeling it that day and they don't even buck? They just kind of walk out and just chill. Do you get points because you didn't get technically knocked off?

Speaker 5 So, yeah, you'll get points, but they'll give you a reroute.

Speaker 5 So, you'll get an opportunity to get on another bull, and that bull is probably going to have his day.

Speaker 1 Does that happen, though? Is there ever a day where you get on a bull and the bull's just like, yeah, I'm not, I don't really feel like doing this right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, last weekend, I got on a bull that he just wasn't feeling it that day. He's a really good bull.
He just decided he was like, hey,

Speaker 5 I don't know. The crowd's not good enough for me.
I don't know what he was thinking, but he was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 Is there ever any PED accusation, but like reverse where somebody dopes up a bull before they get on? Maybe like blow some smoke in his ear.

Speaker 5 No, I don't think so. For the most part, they just feed him really well and then try to let him figure it out from there.
They can't do much but let him buck.

Speaker 1 So wait, I'm looking right now. Dillinger was the number one bull of all time.
I thought it was Bodacious. I heard Bodacius.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Bodacius is my goat.

Speaker 1 Oh, Bodacius is number two on this ranking. Dillinger's number one.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Are you Dillinger guy or I'd be a Dillinger guy?

Speaker 5 Really? Yeah, as far as what a guy would want to see out of a Bucking Bull, like as a rider,

Speaker 5 I think that Dillinger was a way better bull.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's behind this algorithm, but right now I'm looking at it. Dillinger was a 91.14 on the power rating, and Bodaceus was only a 71.
So Dillinger, and now, do people like, obviously,

Speaker 1 the career span of a bull rider is not super long, right? It's like 10 years maybe. Yes.

Speaker 1 So you don't compete with anyone who was on Dillinger back in the day, but have you talked to anyone who rode them?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, we talked to those guys all the time. Really? J.W.
Hart, he's a stock contractor now, owns his own set of bulls.

Speaker 5 And he was one of the guys, I believe, he actually rode him, or he didn't, maybe.

Speaker 2 So is it a consensus that bulls are getting tougher or bulls getting easier to ride?

Speaker 5 Bulls are getting tougher. I mean, yeah, it's just like the horse racing industry.
Like they bred faster horses. They're breeding bulls to buck harder.

Speaker 5 And that's where we're finding like a lack in actually getting more bull riders into the sport.

Speaker 5 Everybody made that transition into getting better bucking bulls because everybody wants a bull that can go to the PBR finals or the NFR.

Speaker 5 So now the kids that are learning, they're having to learn on a lot

Speaker 5 higher scale instead of just bulls that just tweeter out there and you can build confidence and build a know-how.

Speaker 2 I I was looking at the at the rankings actually a couple weeks ago. I saw that there was the battle for the crown, and Wupah is the world number one.
World number two is Chiseled,

Speaker 2 but he's not far behind. The average bull score is a 46.45 for Wupah, and it's 46.02 for Chiseled.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, do you have a bull that you ride and you get along with that you can kind of vibe off each other a little bit better than somebody else might?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 5 There's a few bulls like that.

Speaker 5 I've been known to kind of get past some of the ones a lot of people don't like. Like there was a bull, Goodnight Roba show up until last year.

Speaker 5 Jose Victor Lemme, our number one right now, he was the only one that had rode him. And then the following day I rode him.

Speaker 5 And then there was another bull called Zoro. Before I got on him in his professional career, he had...

Speaker 5 probably 50 or so outs or more than that and he had only been ridden four times and then I was the next guy to ride him. So I don't know.

Speaker 5 I tend to get along with some of the more ones that people don't like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 So I was reading an article about you this morning.

Speaker 1 Like, what is it melding? Because obviously PBR, it feels like the audience is, you know, more rural, more country, even though you guys do compete in big cities.

Speaker 1 You are, you know, a younger guy on TikTok, on Instagram, on Twitter. Like, I heard an interview where you're talking about you want to be in movies.
Is there any pushback on that?

Speaker 2 Are people like, oh, why is this guy on TikTok?

Speaker 1 Like, we don't really understand this?

Speaker 5 I don't know if there is. I really don't care.
I mean,

Speaker 5 it doesn't bother me none. And if they knew anything that was good for them, they'd just sit back and relax and enjoy it.
Because

Speaker 5 if we want to continue to grow this sport, there has to be some kind of

Speaker 5 growth besides just in the Western industry. We're just such a small population of this country and of the world.
So why not try to take it to mainstream media? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You got to meet the audience where they are sometimes instead of letting them find you. You got to go out there and be proactive about it.
So, for you, how did you get into bull riding?

Speaker 2 Because it seems like a sport that

Speaker 2 you have to be very crazy. I was going to say a little bit crazy.
You have to be actually certifiably insane to want to do it.

Speaker 2 So, the first time you looked at a bull, you were like, I want to be on the back of that animal. Or what was that like?

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I don't know, man. From the time that I was a kid, I knew I wanted to be a cowboy.
And my dad, he didn't want me to ride bulls. But I don't know, eventually

Speaker 5 God has his way of making things come full circle, I guess, to what you want to do. And

Speaker 5 I ended up just starting to ride bulls. I don't know how it really happened.

Speaker 2 You don't know how you just ended up on a bull one day?

Speaker 2 You looked around, you're like, wow, this is weird.

Speaker 2 My dad be pissed at me right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, oh, he was there. Like, it was just like,

Speaker 5 I entered what they call a play day back in Texas.

Speaker 5 It's like youth rodeo, bunch of like rodeo events and they had the steer ride and my dad was like oh it's a steer like it's not a real bull it's okay so I entered that one time and then I found out there was another rodeo that was like 30 minutes down the road from the house and I tried to enter that one it was a youth rodeo as well but they told me I was too old for the steer riding

Speaker 5 so I had to go to peewee bulls and my dad was like oh well the guy on the phone's like oh it's just like steers are just a little bit bigger and they're gonna buck more like wolves and he was like all right, cool.

Speaker 5 And then eventually it just snowballed.

Speaker 2 How big is a pee-wee bull?

Speaker 5 It all depends. There's some pee-wee bulls that are probably about the size of the bulls we get on now.
They just don't buck hard, you know. They were just kind of rejects, they

Speaker 5 found their place, I guess. You know, not every bull can be a PBR bucking bull.

Speaker 2 It's like over a thousand pounds sometimes, yeah.

Speaker 5 Over a thousand pounds. And they're pee-wee bulls.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a very misleading name for those bulls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 They'd probably be more pissed off that they're getting emasculated like that. Yeah, pee-wee bull.

Speaker 5 And some of them are teeny tiny, but for the most part, yeah,

Speaker 5 they all range in size. It just depends on how hard they buck.

Speaker 2 So when did you realize that you were really good at it?

Speaker 5 I don't know. For the longest, I sucked.
I sucked. I was terrible.
And you kept on.

Speaker 1 Because that seems... Bull riding seems like the one thing.
If you suck, there is no reason to keep doing it. Right? Like, it's dangerous.

Speaker 1 And you suck.

Speaker 5 I lucked up a few times whenever I was younger and rode some pretty nice bulls and I just was determined that I was like I can do this on a consistent basis and whenever I left high school when I graduated high school I left home and never went back and I crashed on buddies couches and just kept riding bulls for about a whole year and that's all I pretty much did was ride bulls people would pay me to come get on their bulls and Eventually a guy looked at me, he took bulls to the PBR and I'd go get on for him 50 bucks ahead.

Speaker 5 He was like, you realize last week or a few weeks ago, this bull was on tour and they couldn't even ride him two seconds. You just rode him for 50 bucks.
He was like, What are you doing?

Speaker 1 What were you doing?

Speaker 1 What is that setup where you're riding a bull for 50 bucks ahead? They're just asking you to go, like, how does that work?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so bulls need outs too. They need practice just like people do.
So, like, to get them tuned up or get their muscles working right, they'll get somebody to come get on them. And I was that guy.

Speaker 5 And our director of livestock, Cody Lambert, hit tell those stock contractors down in Texas. He was like, well, they'll send him a video on their bulls to buck off a guy really quick.

Speaker 5 And they'll be like, if you really want to get a bull sent over here, get a guy like Ezekiel or somebody to get on. And then we'll bring him.
So I started that. That was pretty much my job.

Speaker 5 It was like a little business for me. I'd just go get on a few bulls for $50 a head, make $200, $300, and go rodeo on the weekends.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 What was the most bulls you rode in a day?

Speaker 5 The most bulls i've ever got on in a day was at a bull sale in uh fort worth texas and i think it was 23.

Speaker 1 holy oh my god yeah how many times did you get thrown

Speaker 5 uh probably about 10.

Speaker 1 okay 10 15. i thought you were gonna say 23.

Speaker 5 I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 Is that a world record?

Speaker 5 I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 There's got to be a world record listed somewhere.

Speaker 2 It is crazy, too, that you kept doing this sport despite the fact that you sucked at it.

Speaker 2 But I imagine that a lot of people that are at the top of the level in bull riding probably, you know, you don't get on a bull for the first time and you know how to do it immediately.

Speaker 2 You know, it takes trial and error. It's not like being a pilot where, like, if you're a shitty pilot, you're probably not going to fly that long.

Speaker 2 But if you're, if you're a bull, you can learn from your mistakes, you can move on.

Speaker 2 So, at what point were you, you know, you were getting 50 bucks ahead for people, you were breaking these bulls or riding these bulls, giving them some practice.

Speaker 2 When did you decide that you were going to turn pro?

Speaker 5 I don't know. I guess I just started hanging out with some all right people and they were like, hey, let's go enter some of these lower-level PBRs.
And I was like, all right, cool.

Speaker 5 And started going on those. And

Speaker 5 within the first few that I went to, I think I finished third and fourth at one, finished second at another, and then another second. And then I was just like, oh, hey, I can probably do this.

Speaker 5 And then I went off to college and started college rodeoing, made the college finals. twice and then I was like I need to take this serious full-time.

Speaker 2 They have college teams like for universities.

Speaker 1 What's the best school?

Speaker 5 What's the best school?

Speaker 5 I think last year it was Tarleton State University.

Speaker 1 Tarleton State. Yeah.

Speaker 5 In Stephenville, Texas. I think that was who it was last year.

Speaker 1 I want to say they made the NCAA tournament one time in the last few years, didn't they?

Speaker 2 Jake? They just became D1, I think.

Speaker 1 Okay, they just became D1. All right, that's what it is.
Because

Speaker 1 we basically base all of our knowledge of schools on gambling. So I was like, I've heard of Tarleton State somewhere.

Speaker 2 What are some of the other big names? Like the dynasties, the the blue bloods in bull riding?

Speaker 5 Sam Houston? Sam Houston State is a big one.

Speaker 1 Huge one.

Speaker 5 Texas A ⁇ M is a huge one.

Speaker 5 Cal Poly.

Speaker 2 Well they they don't get all the way on top of the bull. They stop like halfway up the back.

Speaker 1 They ride them in a different way in Texas A ⁇ M. They're weirdos.

Speaker 2 They're more of a sheep riding school.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 That's true. Yeah, there's there's a bunch of big schools.
I think Texas Tech has a rodeo team.

Speaker 5 Cal Poly in California.

Speaker 5 Montana State. There's quite a few schools that actually have rodeo teams.
Can't think of all of them right now.

Speaker 1 I'd have to think, like, so obviously, you know, you're an African-American in a pretty predominantly white sport.

Speaker 1 Have you seen, have you noticed that you've been like a role model to a lot of kids now? Because that's got to be really rewarding.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, that's kind of one of the biggest things I set out to do in my career is try to make a difference in people's lives. I mean,

Speaker 5 the gold buckles and the 90-point routes and everything else is cool. But if I can influence somebody and make a footprint on history and let people know they can do whatever the heck they want to do,

Speaker 1 then

Speaker 5 I'm doing my job.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I do think representation matters in a sport like that because if you're a black kid and you go to a PBR event and you see a bunch of white cowboys, it probably doesn't, the thought might not even enter your brain, like, this is something that I could do when I grow up.

Speaker 2 Or maybe it does, but you also have these like mental blocks.

Speaker 2 But if you see somebody that looks like you out there participating, it opens up a door for that kid that might inspire them to do something down those lines.

Speaker 2 So that's got to be like a really rewarding thing that you've done. Have you seen any pushback at all?

Speaker 2 Has there been any sort of like latent racism that's been laying around that's made it difficult on you? Or have have the fellow riders and the people on tour been really nice to you?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, everybody on tour is great. I mean, there's some of those keyboard warriors at home that ain't got nothing better to do.

Speaker 5 Besides that, like the PBR and the true blue, real PBR fans, they don't care what color you are. They just want to see you you ride bulls.

Speaker 5 And if you do your job, then they care less what you look like, what color chaps you're wearing, or what color shirt you're wearing. They just want to see you ride good bulls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so PFT brought up representation.

Speaker 1 Why am I not represented in bull riding? Why are there no fat guys riding bulls?

Speaker 5 No comment.

Speaker 1 I mean, seriously, though,

Speaker 1 are there any fat people who ride bulls?

Speaker 5 I wouldn't say on a professional level.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 So it's an advantage to be smaller?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's an advantage to be smaller. Just

Speaker 5 a lower center of gravity. Yeah.
You know, damn.

Speaker 5 Okay. But I think you got it.
I think you can do it. No, I would never get it.

Speaker 1 Well, fuck that. That shit is crazy, man.

Speaker 2 Is it an advantage to be light to a certain extent, or can you be too light?

Speaker 5 I guess you could be too light.

Speaker 5 There's a balance between being in light and

Speaker 5 you have to be, I guess,

Speaker 5 an actual athlete. Right.
You can't just be... I mean, there is some exceptions to the rules, but for the most part, there is no.
Is that a shot at Jess?

Speaker 2 Is that shot?

Speaker 1 No, not a Jess.

Speaker 5 No, Jess is Jack.

Speaker 1 Jess is Jack.

Speaker 5 For a little dude, Jess is Jack. So he's strong.

Speaker 5 But there's some other people that might not be quite as strong, but for the most part, everybody's pretty much a physical specimen. They're athletes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if

Speaker 1 you put like a six-year-old on a bull and the bull doesn't even realize anyone's on it?

Speaker 2 The bull might just walk.

Speaker 1 It just might walk around. Although that would be you'd have to re-ride.
You'd have to re-ride.

Speaker 5 We'd hope so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'd hope so. All right, so I have a question from our co-worker, Billy, who's not here, but that's it's an excusable absence.

Speaker 1 But this is his question, not mine, so it's kind of weird, but whatever. Do you shock the bull's testicles before riding, or is that someone else's job?

Speaker 5 Nobody does that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so good question, Billy.

Speaker 5 That is, yeah, that is like one of the hugest myths in all of Rodeo.

Speaker 1 Of course it is.

Speaker 5 I don't know why everybody thinks that we have, like, I don't know what's everybody's fascination with these bulls' testicles.

Speaker 1 They probably talked about it on a Joe Rogan podcast, and that's where he got it from. Yeah, no.
I apologize.

Speaker 5 No, no. So, yeah, there's nothing tied around them.
Nobody touches the bull's testicles.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Follow-up. Can you control how much shock occurs on the bull's testicles? That was actually a real follow-up thing.

Speaker 1 Once again, there's no shock.

Speaker 2 The cowboy's got a dial on the back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just like...

Speaker 1 Okay, here you go. Billy definitely walks around telling people like, yeah, they shocked the fuck out of of those bulls balls.

Speaker 2 Just spitballing here. What if we started our own bull riding tour where you do shock the bull's testicles? I feel like more people would watch that.

Speaker 5 I don't think that'd get off the ground. You know, PETA and all that other good stuff.

Speaker 2 That's true. We might run into some issues.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there might be some issues.

Speaker 2 Yeah, is there something about, this is also a Billy question. Is there something when you see a bull that you can tell, like, this bull is having a bad day?

Speaker 1 Like, I'm going to be in for a wild ride on this one.

Speaker 5 No, not really. You can kind of tell their personalities and their demeanors, but for the most part, I mean, you can have one that's acting completely nuts

Speaker 5 back there in the lead-up alley or in the bucking shoots, and he could just be,

Speaker 5 like you said, one of those bulls that just have a bad day, and not just a bad day once, but all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And there's bulls that'll sit there, like we had a bull called Bruiser, one of the best bulls ever, as well. And he never moved a muscle whenever he was in the bucking shoots.

Speaker 5 He barely twitched an ear. He just stood there.

Speaker 1 What a fat ass shoot. Yeah.

Speaker 5 He'd do his job, buck you off. If you landed underneath him, he'd try to step away from you.
Really?

Speaker 1 See, there are bulls that are like friendlier to people? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Like Bruiser, you can go back there in his holding pins and you can go scratch on him. And like, I've seen him lick somebody like a dog.

Speaker 1 Really? And then are there bulls that, like, if they buck you, they're going to try to stomp you out?

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 there are some like that.

Speaker 5 For the most part, here here in recent years, they've really gone away with, they're breeding away from the meanness and breeding more towards just them being athletes. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so there's a lot that goes into it. I like that.

Speaker 1 So there's like, so if you're an asshole bull,

Speaker 1 they're probably not going to let you breed.

Speaker 5 Unless you're a badass.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Then it's kind of. All right.
So then you can, so it's kind of like in sports, like the locker room cancer, you can deal with him if he's really good. Yeah, exactly.
Right.

Speaker 1 So if the if the bull's a true badass, he can be an asshole as well. Yeah, but the true bulls that are not badasses that are assholes, you're out.
Yeah, you're okay. What about the

Speaker 1 clowns? Are there still clowns? No, we don't call them clowns. Oh, yeah, what do we call them? Don't call them.

Speaker 1 What do we call them again?

Speaker 5 We call them bullfighters now. So,

Speaker 1 that seems not right. No, they're not clowns.
They went from clowns to bullfighters. What come up?

Speaker 1 That's like going, that's like when you're like an accounting firm or a big law firm and they just make everyone vice president. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How do they go bullfighter from clown?

Speaker 5 So, uh, originally in rodeo, uh, a rodeo clown, yeah, you know, we have Flint in our arena, he's our entertainer, he cracks all the jokes and stuff.

Speaker 5 Originally, in rodeo, the people that protect the cowboys they also had to crack jokes and keep the crowd entertained.

Speaker 1 Clowns.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so then they were actually clowns, like they had to keep the crowd entertained, then they had to protect the cowboy and go back and forth.

Speaker 5 Well, then, some of the guys were like, Well, I'm not funny, I just want to protect the cowboys, right?

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 yeah, they stopped telling jokes, and they just got one guy to start telling jokes. And then he became the rodeo clown, per se.
And then they're the bullfighters now.

Speaker 5 They save guys.

Speaker 5 They don't want to be called a clown. They don't want to be viewed as a joke.

Speaker 1 So if I call them a clown, they get mad?

Speaker 5 Some of them would probably get mad. Some of them would just probably correct you

Speaker 5 as we just did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I'm learning about the sport. Yeah.
Are those guys

Speaker 1 are they trying trying to also get on the tour or like how does a path go for a bullfighter?

Speaker 5 Yeah, bullfighter, it goes a little bit different. So they have like what they call like freestyle bullfighting contest and then they have all the amateur rodeos.
So pretty much you just want to

Speaker 5 build up like a reputation of being a badass bullfighter. And then eventually they'd buy their car just as we do in the PBR to be able to get in.

Speaker 5 And then they'll have to start trying to book jobs and they'll work their way through the velocity and then maybe get a call call up and come to the unleash the beast level and then also we vote at the end of the year all of us bull ratters we vote on who we think should be uh oh the guys protecting us all year long so do you tip them out if you win no really it's not like a caddy situation where it's like thank you for protecting us no they get they get a pretty good salary from what i understand okay but uh probably not good enough yeah not no getting chased they'd never get paid enough yeah right i think it would hurt to slip them a little bit more maybe think about at Christmas time.

Speaker 1 No, they would probably, I mean, I'm not going to tell you how they, you know, react when you get bucked, but like they might go the extra mile when you're laying on the ground if you, if Zeke had tipped them out at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 Just a thought. I know personally, if I had a guy whose job was to make sure the bull didn't crush my skull in, I would take care of him.

Speaker 2 Get him an Amazon gift card at the very least around the house.

Speaker 1 Get him a Yeti.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like there's some things.

Speaker 5 I probably can't. No, I can get the Amazon gift card.

Speaker 1 You just want to know that guy has a little bit more of a connection to you, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
No, speaking for us, if I'm that guy and I get tipped out by one guy and I don't get tipped out by the other guy, I'm going to be a half second quicker to yourself.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 just naturally. Not saying I want anything to happen to you.

Speaker 1 But I'll maybe stay in the ring a little bit longer to make sure the bull goes after me.

Speaker 2 You're my guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but they're a different breed. If y'all think bull riders are a different breed,

Speaker 5 they're tuned in and they're brain that there's only one thing that they're there to do. And they think if somebody is supposed to get carried out on a stretcher, somebody's supposed to

Speaker 5 die, then it's supposed to be them.

Speaker 5 That's how they feel after every bullet. No matter.
You know what?

Speaker 1 The way you put that right there, I think that it's okay that they went from clown to bullfighters. Yeah, that's fair.
That's a fair

Speaker 1 situation. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm correcting my own language here.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they'll tell you, too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 When we had Jess on, we were talking to him about just like the culture around rodeo. And one thing that's always been fascinating to me is the names of the bull riders.

Speaker 2 How many people named Cody do you know on tour?

Speaker 5 There's at least three right off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 without even thinking about it.

Speaker 2 What is it about the name Cody that just makes people become cowboys?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 I never thought of that as a cowboy name when I was growing up. I know a lot of Cody's then too, but I guess it's just a popular name around that time in life.

Speaker 2 Are you the only Ezekiel?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a cool name, too.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there's only one. I mean, they say there's one in football, but I've never heard of him.

Speaker 1 Ezekiel Elliott? Yeah. Yeah, that one.
Yeah, he got fat. What about initial? No, he's skinny.
I feel like there's a lot of JWs, JBs,

Speaker 1 JJs.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess they don't like their real names.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like that's Cody's, and then just throw a J and something else in there.

Speaker 2 It's Cody's, and then others.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They should do that for the all-star game, how they do second-year players versus rookies in basketball. It should be Cody's versus the

Speaker 5 yeah i mean they'd have a lot they'd have a lot of codies wait so what are you ranked in the last is this oh we got to get you up there yeah we're way behind yeah we're way behind okay we got to get you up there um do you have a nickname blue night the color blue okay what about fezekiel physique have you ever have you ever thought about like just working hard getting in real good shape one summer and then you show up you got like a you know pack

Speaker 2 you could stick with blue i think it's a good nickname personally i mean i mean it's not bad bad.

Speaker 1 It's not bad.

Speaker 5 Probably not my first choice, but it's not bad.

Speaker 1 All right, so I had one last question. So, I mean, I can't believe it took us this long, but what's the worst injury? We got to know.

Speaker 5 Man, I've been pretty dang blessed.

Speaker 5 I mean, if I had to say, yeah.

Speaker 1 Knock it on wood for you. Thank you.

Speaker 5 If I had to say anything, it would be the groin.

Speaker 5 That was my worst injury I've had so far. I've been very blessed throughout my whole entire career to stay really healthy.

Speaker 5 That's why it's been so hard for me to kind of come back from it because I just

Speaker 1 never expected that. I've never been used to it, yeah.
And the janky wrists.

Speaker 5 And the janky wrists. Yeah, that didn't help at all.

Speaker 2 Groin injuries are tough, too, because they don't heal. Yeah.
They never heal.

Speaker 2 It takes a long time because you have to be, you can't walk across like a slippery floor

Speaker 2 without, you know, just tweaking it a little bit. You got to give that thing some time off.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 I definitely still can feel it. It'll pull and stuff like that.
It doesn't hurt really anymore, but you can just feel how tight it is because it's pretty much just like a knot in there now, I guess.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm looking looking at these names right now you pbr's got some great names yeah you got a uh dakota butter yeah uh boudreau campbell yeah that's my homie boudreau okay keys on whitehorse that's my other homie fuck these guys are awesome these are great and those are real names those are real names lonnie west that's just a good name that's a good bull stetson right that's a good name that sounds like a gun um All right, well, yeah, this has been awesome, man.

Speaker 1 We really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Dude, this has been awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Enjoyed it. Hopefully you had fun and we'll be watching.
We're going to start becoming blue fans, Zeke fans, Ezekiel fans. Yeah, exactly.
And yeah, good luck with the rest of the season, man.

Speaker 2 What's up next for you? What's the next event?

Speaker 5 Newark this weekend. Yeah.
Then after that, we head off to

Speaker 5 Deadwood, South Dakota. Okay, cool.
All right. Going to the mountains.

Speaker 1 Everyone tune in for that. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Make sure they're watching. Thank you all.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up the show. We've got

Speaker 1 Fire Fest of the Week to finish us off. Hank, would you like to start?

Speaker 1 What was that?

Speaker 1 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean, honestly.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 last time when I brought up all,

Speaker 1 I prefaced it by saying, you know, I don't actually have a Fire Fest. If I did one, that would be it.
You took it extremely personally. Of course I did.
So personally. Yep.
This is a real Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I need to preface this.

Speaker 1 This is not a joke, haha.

Speaker 1 We're all just joshing around. Okay.

Speaker 1 Kelly Martin, you guys have heard talk about the show. Yeah.
Me, Big Cat, PFT, especially me. Like, I'm on side conversations with her.

Speaker 1 I know you guys are too, but, like, we're basically in communication every day, talking every day. When we bust balls with her, we kind of do it together.

Speaker 1 We all, I deal with her, sometimes even more and her team on my own day-to-day, like, probably in terms of work relationships, one of the closest that's out there besides the people in this room.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 She is getting married. Shout out to Kelly.
Congratulations on getting married. You two took it upon yourselves to throw her a like party.
Excuse me? No. No.
And I got no invitation.

Speaker 1 And Kelly was like, oh, i'm sorry you didn't make it to my party and i was like what are you talking about she's like oh big cat and pft didn't tell you look they got me presents no no

Speaker 2 she's trying to get presents from you hank she's turning you against us my fire that easily my firefight she was holding presents

Speaker 1 is now that hank is so gullible that he actually thought that like you thought we got her presents You thought we got her presence. We still owe her a bag.
What happened was she was holding a bag.

Speaker 1 That's why she was holding a bag. Someone else got her presence.
Okay. All right.
Frank got reverse.

Speaker 1 okay i i also applaud you big cat because like it's so it all it takes for hank to turn on us is just a woman to tell him a lie and then next thing you know hank's doing the la la la well in my defense she was literally holding up she was she's like oh we've been i can't believe we missed the party we were having champagne she was looking at we were drinking champagne she was hammered holding up a bag and be like oh i can't believe big cat and piss she definitely pitted me against you guys, but she was like, I can't believe that.

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, that's a trick she used.

Speaker 1 But she was holding the bags, which means I thought that you guys chipped in and got her present and left me out of it which made me look like an asshole which I was actually somewhat upset about that was not the

Speaker 1 firefest reverse not only take it back no but take reverse double reverse it because now I'm going to try to get her a present with PFT and that's fine that's fine if you guys do it as a joke funny haha whatever yes I thought this was all behind the scenes colour was just like you missed the party and I was like no one told me about the party no it was we had nothing to do with the planning I went up there I love Kelly I'm very very happy for her.

Speaker 1 I went up there for 10 minutes. I had one slice of pizza.
I told two jokes, and then I left.

Speaker 2 It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't much of a plan.

Speaker 1 It wasn't our plan. You guys can admit, though, if you guys got her a gift and I didn't know about it, that would be kind of somewhat different.
Yeah, but we would never have done that.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. I don't know.
That's the part that hurts. Well, she was.
But again,

Speaker 1 this is a good thing. This we saw a gift bag.
She's Kelly trying to take a damage.

Speaker 1 She got your ass. Like, that's something we would do to Kelly.
She reversed it on you. Props to Kelly.
That's a funny joke. You got his ass.

Speaker 6 Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 All right. Okay.
My Fire Fest, I got got by Kelly Morgan. You did.
And you also think that we're like out to get you. And like.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the fact that you went there so quickly mentally is concerning to me.

Speaker 1 I didn't go there mentally.

Speaker 6 She was like, what?

Speaker 1 She told me. She was like, oh, there's a party.
I was like, what party? And then this is, we were in the school stream. She actually walked out to her desk and she was showing me

Speaker 2 the gifts that Kelly actually believed. She's like, told herself the lie that we got her those gifts.

Speaker 2 And so she's like, wow, they did such a nice thing for us.

Speaker 2 They did such a nice thing for us. And then she went down and told Hank because she was feeling so good about herself.

Speaker 1 Just wanted on the record, PFT, and I did nothing nice in this situation. Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 I walked up half a flight of stairs and then made a leap.

Speaker 1 I was late to the party. Yeah, Big Cat.
It was like a 10-minute party.

Speaker 2 I thought Big Cat was going to be mad at me because I stopped in and he wasn't there.

Speaker 1 I forgot that it was left.

Speaker 2 I left after three minutes, and then Big Cat came in.

Speaker 1 We did the Wallow and Gilly switch. Yeah.
He left and I came in. But congrats congrats to Kelly.
Yeah, congrats to Kelly. We love Kelly.
We really do. And Hank,

Speaker 1 I got a bat in my hand. I'm going to low, low, low you to death.

Speaker 2 I also saw Hank in our latest YouTube video, the behind the scenes of last Thursday during the eye thing.

Speaker 2 They interviewed Hank behind the scenes, and he was like, Yeah, you know, like PFT takes his glasses off and it's like, oh.

Speaker 1 That's his thing that he's like. He's just addicted to the scene.
He's addicted to the scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's my best impression. Yeah.
Okay. It's pretty good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT?

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest is Future Me got Present Me into a situation that I forgot about for the last month and a half, but I'm going to have to pay the Piper next weekend, and it's probably not going to be pretty.

Speaker 2 I said

Speaker 2 about a year and a half ago.

Speaker 1 I know what this is.

Speaker 2 Two years ago. Yeah, you're playing.

Speaker 2 That I was done playing rugby after the tournament up in Lake Placid, which I did not get injured in, but I did get run over by a 21-year-old that was built like Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 2 And I got talked into signing up to playing in another rugby game next weekend. Not this weekend, but next.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 kind of forgot about it.

Speaker 1 I think you secretly want to do it.

Speaker 2 Kind of forgot about it.

Speaker 1 Two years ago. Yeah, I think you secretly want to do it.

Speaker 2 You think I secretly wanted to do it after I. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think you want to play, which is okay. Not really.

Speaker 2 I got talked to you. Future me wanted to play.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Future me wanted to play.

Speaker 2 Present me did not, but it's also like a memorial weekend for a guy that went to my college and was like the big benefit factor of the rugby team.

Speaker 2 And so I got guilted into wanting to go, which I'm happy to do.

Speaker 10 Can you send Billy?

Speaker 1 Send Billy.

Speaker 2 Billy, do you want to go? No.

Speaker 1 Nice, Billy. Goodbye.

Speaker 2 So if I come back the weekend after the 16th,

Speaker 1 it's only sort of cast.

Speaker 2 I'm only myself to blame.

Speaker 1 I'll cast you to blame.

Speaker 2 My goal is to just play 20 minutes and not get injured.

Speaker 1 Oh, just 20 minutes.

Speaker 2 I'll be happy. I'll be happy with that.

Speaker 1 20 minutes is a long time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, running clock.

Speaker 1 Real man's game.

Speaker 1 All right, right my fire fest is i got the uh flu vaccine and my arm hurts real big fire fest this week wow yeah all right lib yeah we got the flu you do out of it too i know we both got it my left wing yeah me too anyone else anyone else i would never no no you don't know what's in that shit no that one's a real vaccine

Speaker 1 all right billy also the my my future me i mean that root canal that i was so excited about on wednesday that is going to happen eventually yeah

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is going to suck.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 7 I'm addicted to cookies

Speaker 7 and making cookies.

Speaker 1 Is this the milk? Is this because you have unlimited milk?

Speaker 7 It's like a milk. The milk.
I go buy the milk, and then right next to the milk is the cookie dough. Yeah.
And, you know, I've sort of.

Speaker 1 Wait, you're making your own cookies? I'm making my own cookies.

Speaker 7 Can you make you guys some cookies?

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you? I should probably say this is what I do.

Speaker 6 It's actually really awesome.

Speaker 7 I take, so like, you know, how they come squares?

Speaker 2 This is going to not be awesome.

Speaker 1 Cookie dough because I make. I don't know if you can make squares, but

Speaker 2 five minutes later, do you buy Chessman cookies in the pepperon's farm thing and then put those in the oven?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 Wait, no, no, I get the cookie though.

Speaker 1 Billy, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 7 I make four gigantic cookies, and then I

Speaker 1 bake them, but wait, and then I make them gooey, and then I eat one,

Speaker 7 but then I put the rest in the fridge, and then I eat one a night and warm it up in the air fryer.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you want to, like,

Speaker 1 I guess it's a personal taste.

Speaker 1 So, i i personally do not like gooey i like crispy cookies well you make the well the thing about the big cookie is you can get the outside okay all right you know what and then the inside gooey i take it back that is awesome it is awesome yeah there it is that's awesome the billy's giant cookie so can you bring us some bring us all one giant

Speaker 1 sunday when we when we all watch football it'd be nice if we all had a billy's giant cookie what about tonight you want to go make them i'll make a bunch of cookie sauce

Speaker 2 how big are we talking about here billy what how big are we talking about bigger than your your head, dude. Like pizza size? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Billy's sauce isn't that good.
Billy's now showing the size of an average cookie. Absolutely.
Now it's gone back to not awesome. This?

Speaker 2 It needs to be much bigger than that. If you're going at a giant cookie, it has to be like...

Speaker 1 It's a fourth. I mean, it's a fourth.

Speaker 1 You've already heard us joking. Getting pizza? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Get four of them and then make four giant cookies. Like pizza-sized cookies.

Speaker 1 You've already heard us judge. Well, no,

Speaker 1 I want you to bring the ones that you've been making in tonight. I'm just going to bring them.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Just come over to my house.

Speaker 1 No, we're not coming over to your house for cookies. You can bring them.

Speaker 1 Are you going to bring them? Maybe. That's announced.

Speaker 1 No. All right.

Speaker 1 Jake, finish this up.

Speaker 8 So next weekend, I'm heading down to Baton Rouge for the Florida LSU game. I know you guys have been before.
I was very much looking forward to my first Death Valley Under the Lights experience.

Speaker 8 11 a.m. started now.
Yikes.

Speaker 1 That's stuff. Shout out our guy, Coach O.

Speaker 1 He did not say that he wanted to kill that guy on the radio.

Speaker 2 But even if he did, I think he was well within his rights.

Speaker 1 He didn't say that. So everyone, chill out.

Speaker 8 And I know you guys went to a night game. I was looking forward to a night game.
They usually play night games.

Speaker 1 We went to a night game. They didn't score a touchdown.
Okay. Yeah.
If you get a touchdown, that'd be nice. 11 a.m.
local time.

Speaker 2 What time are you going to have to get up to start tailgating for that? I think they're not going to go to sleep in Baton Rouge. I think they're going to get started the night before.

Speaker 1 No, that's. I used to have to do 11 a.m.s in college because,

Speaker 1 you know, Midwest time, yeah. And they would always do the noon kickoff.
There was 11 a.m. local time.

Speaker 1 It's brutal.

Speaker 1 I know that this sounds very uh ridiculous to complain about but it would be like go to sleep at three

Speaker 1 wake up at eight try to stomach a couple beers and go to the game but isn't death valley known for the night games yes oh yeah yeah that's what so i'm going for my brother's bachelor party so i'm going with like 10 kids from massachusetts who don't even care about marrying kelly no she's not he's getting married uh in february we should get him a gift yeah and not tell him yeah you should

Speaker 1 get set at golf clubs but it's like when you obviously you obviously schedule it in the summer. You're like, oh, LSU, Florida, October, perfect.
At least it will be like the 3.30 local time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the 2.30 local time. And the worst part is last week was the 8 p.m.
kickoff

Speaker 1 local time, which is like, then you have all day to party. Yeah.
Damn.

Speaker 1 Now it's like, I don't know what we're going to do after that. Well, here's the only, I'll give you a spin zone.
It is when you go to a game 11 a.m. local time,

Speaker 1 it does feel like you have two Saturdays because you have pregame game Saturday, then you have a little bit of a lull, maybe drink a little afterwards at a tailgate, and then you have a going out Saturday.

Speaker 1 So you basically have two full days in one.

Speaker 2 I think you even have enough time, maybe to sneak in an afternoon nap.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I used to

Speaker 1 do the nap from like four to like six and then go back out. That's perfect.

Speaker 8 7 a.m. a star is tough.

Speaker 2 Are you guys planning on meeting up at all?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll probably go to Fred's together. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jake, you're going to get.

Speaker 1 I'll go with my family. So perfect.

Speaker 2 Are you in turn?

Speaker 1 You're going to be in front?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll see. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm going to get Jake blacked. No.

Speaker 1 you should roofy Jigs.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was so excited to say pause there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But not pause because, like, it's a very fine website.
It'll still be a fine website. Love his love.
I'm excited to see everything down there.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good fire frustration.
I'm definitely. I'm not going to speak it into existence.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. I'm not.
Say it. I'm not going to speak it into existence.

Speaker 1 Say it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to. You have to say it now.
I don't want to. Say it.

Speaker 2 You can't stop saying something.

Speaker 1 If LSU loses this weekend and then they lose that game to Florida, it's going to be tough scenes in Death Valley on that Saturday afternoon. Correct.
Yes. That's

Speaker 1 strike that from the record. Now that's tricky.
Stricken. That's fair.
Stricken from the record. Never said.
But yes, you are correct.

Speaker 2 As far as I'm concerned, Coach O deserves to stay there for the rest of his life. Job for life.

Speaker 8 I have a group fire fest. We are not seeing Marlins Man this October.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know. What's wrong? He banged up his knee.
Yeah, he he can't. No, is he alright? Dude, he's got a fucking huge brace on his knees.
He's laying in bed with all his pussies.

Speaker 2 You sure it's not his shoulder?

Speaker 1 No, it's his knee.

Speaker 8 All that orange you see behind Houston's home plate?

Speaker 1 They're doing that in tribute for Marlin's Man. I think he's a bad guy.
He texted everyone.

Speaker 2 Everybody that's sitting behind home plate these playoffs, we're all wearing orange for Marlinsman.

Speaker 1 Okay? Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, everyone, good luck this weekend.

Speaker 7 Billy? Little recap. They think they found the Zodiac killer.
He's passed away, but

Speaker 1 a recap of what you guys haven't noticed this he does this every time what he's doing is sheet yeah yeah okay go but go on

Speaker 7 okay the recaps i've been trying to do them been slacking lately

Speaker 7 stuff i've nothing doing a great job otherwise except for the big cookie um but turns out the guy used to uh write reviews of serial killer documentaries oh i kind of like that though like who else Who else would you go to for a serial killer review?

Speaker 7 Well, this guy, Gary F. Post, who they think was the Zodiac killer he wrote on the hunt for Ted Bundy awful would give less than one star if I could.
Ted Bundy is wildly overrated.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean I that sounds like I get it.

Speaker 2 You that sounds like some PFT commenter would say like I would I would rate serial killers. I'd be like Nelp this guy was like one star would not get murdered by again.

Speaker 2 His service was terrible.

Speaker 1 Ted Bundy was overrated. This is wild.

Speaker 1 Wild.

Speaker 1 He didn't beat anyone.

Speaker 2 He actually is overrated.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's only because

Speaker 1 Well, he also broke out of jail. So that gets some.

Speaker 2 He served as his own lawyer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, breaking out of jail gets at least some credit.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't think he's the goat.
I think he's. I agree with this comment by post.

Speaker 1 No, it's fucking John Wayne Gacy. That fuck.

Speaker 7 Horseshoe crabs bleed blue.

Speaker 2 John Wayne Gacy killed like a lot. Dozens, right? A lot.

Speaker 1 A lot of kids.

Speaker 2 But yeah, but that's kind of like playing an inferior opponent. He beat up on safety.

Speaker 1 I'm out of this conversation. Not in 1960.

Speaker 1 Give me 18. 16.

Speaker 1 6.

Speaker 2 John Wayne Gacy ain't played nobody, Paul. By the way.

Speaker 1 All he did was murder some 12-year-olds.

Speaker 2 They supposed to be SEC, Paul.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 I've gone all the way from 1 to 99. I'm now reversing it.

Speaker 8 50, 16, 80, and 89. Out of play.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 1 Ah? That's 98.

Speaker 1 44. I'm convinced 97 is not in there.

Speaker 2 We'll have to do an audit.

Speaker 1 Aud it's fit. I've got all the documents.

Speaker 8 Oh, 44 is the first timer. Whoa.

Speaker 1 But we still have like 13 left.

Speaker 1 13 or 14. That would be a big moment.

Speaker 2 When we finish it. Should we take bets over under when we're going to finish this?

Speaker 2 Think about it. It's going to eventually

Speaker 1 a 1% chance of getting a point.

Speaker 2 That's not our strongest.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Talking away

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say, I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 She says I'm happy to find Shyaway

Speaker 1 for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Take on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on,

Speaker 1 I'll be gone

Speaker 1 with a day I'll afternoon, see.

Speaker 1 but be still a little bit.

Speaker 1 The learning life is out there. Say after me,

Speaker 1 it's the better to be safe and sorry. Say gone,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on.

Speaker 1 I'll be gone

Speaker 1 for a day or two.