
Pete Prisco, Tom Brady Is Inevitable And NFL Week 1 Weekend Preview
Tom Brady is inevitable and Football is all the way back with an incredible opening night game. Dak looked great and Drew Brees has new hair (00:02:18 - 00:13:32). Weekend preview of all the games and we have a new bet between all the guys that may end the podcast (00:13:32 - 00:43:01). Fantasy Fuccbois (00:43:01 - 00:49:33). Pete Prisco joins the show to all preview the entire league and give some takes on what will happen in 2021 (00:49:33 - 01:34:36). We finish the show with Fyre Fest of the week
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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Pete Prisco previewing the entire 2021 NFL season. We do our weekend preview, Fantasy Fuckboys, Firefest of the Week, and of course, we're going to recap what was the kickoff to the NFL season.
It was a great game.
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Okay, let's go. Boys! Boys! Now in the street there is violence And a lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't lay all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher It's part of my take, by barstool sports welcome to part of my take presented by verizon the best network period the best network period that is verizon today is friday september 10th And Hank, I want Hank to do it.
Football is back. Football's back, big time.
Hank, I want Hank to do it. Football is back.
Football's back, big time. Hank, Hank.
Tonight. Yeah, let's pop it up.
Let's pop it up. Tonight proved it once and for all.
All the doubters out there who said football wasn't back. Fuck you.
Football's back, big time. It's back.
You know what we got to see? What? This was one of those just magical nights all around. We got to see an artist at the top of his craft, a guy that just gets better and hotter with age, and then after Ed Sheeran, we got a great football game, and Tom Brady just was lights out.
When you said magic, I thought you were going to say that the magic of Drew Brees' hair, because that just, wow. Good job, Drew Brees.
Clap it up for Drew Brees having hair again. So the problem is, I was thinking about it.
Like a late night TV show now? Yeah, it is. Like a live audience.
I was thinking about it. You read about this? I was thinking about it.
You have to do one of two options with your hair. Well, three options.
You can either just embrace it. Scott Van Pelt.
Shout out Scott Van Pelt. Go full bald.
It's coming home. It's coming home.
Number two, you have to do what Tom Brady did and get in front of it early. Or number three, you can do the Urlacher where you go zero to 100 and you're just like, hey, guys, I was the bald guy.
I'm not. Drew Brees falls under none of those categories where he was losing it, losing it, losing it, and then popped up.
He did the Jason Witten where he showed up and he's like oh got a new rug whoops no one should mention this but everyone mentioned he was trending all day i thought he looked pretty good yeah i you know what good for drew but if your role model is jason witten and you're getting into the broadcasting business not great not a great start from him but on the field awesome awesome game awesome game dak i think is back i'm actually starting to think that maybe he wasn't as hurt as Jerry was letting us know that he was. That was a game that the Cowboys lost but won because you're going in, if you're a Cowboys fan, you're going into this season and saying, I hope Dak's healthy.
I hope we look competent. They looked more than competent.
Dak looked awesome, drove them down the field, which could have been the winning field goal drive, except for the fact that what's the, was it Thanos? Tom Brady's inevitable. Like he just, he's 44 years old.
He's, what is it? Year 22 for him? 44 years old. I saw the stat.
There are now six guys in Canton who started their careers after Tom Brady. It's crazy.
Like they had full Hall Hall of Fame careers. They're enshrined in Canton, and Tom Brady is still playing.
And at this point, I don't, like, what do you say? You can't be like— He is God. Tom Brady, I have to say, at this point, like, he's aging backwards.
It's Benjamin Button. He's better than he's ever been.
You could make that argue. They were showing, like on how quickly, his release time and how far downfield he was passing.
But what, Hank? No, well, Billy was taking, shout out Billy who's taking all the, Good job, Billy. all the water bottles off the table that had labels on it.
Live audience. But Hank, you have to admit, it was actually sad tonight.
I was a little bit disappointed in Hank because Hank started rooting against his idol. So set the scene.
We're in New Jersey. So we're recording the beginning of the show in New Jersey.
We're recording the rest of the show after the next ad read. We'll be back in the studio.
So we're in New Jersey. Barstool Sportsbook is live.
Nine states. Yeah.
Nine states. Let's do it for Tennessee.
Nine states. Tennessee and Arizona.
Welcome to the club Che just walked by Thought we were copping for him So Hank showed up to New Jersey And he live bit the Cowboys Yeah So then take it away PFT That's what we watched Then in the fourth quarter I'm rooting against I'm rooting for Tom Brady At this point I'm the one that's saying Too much time on the clock You can't let God Get the ball back And drive down the field It was hank and tim the tap man the only two people that thought that the cowboys had in the bag because hank he's the he's the money line dog king of the world and uh tom brady just i think he just kind of put it down your throat hank yeah i mean as much as i love tom and i truly do love him more than you know most people in my life uh i love money line underdogs more and when i showed up at halftime because i was still at the office editing and when i came i was like whoever's losing i'm gonna bet on them and it happened to me the cowboys so nothing personal tom but it's just crazy i really love the plus sign and obviously we have to mention the uh missed call of the opi on chris godwin chris godwin had was like so close to having just an all-time you fuck this game up because he fumbles on the goal line, and then the no-call on the OPI to put them into field goal range. But yeah, Tom Brady, I think we've said this before, but if you had to bet and you're like, all right, he's going to play for another three years, I wouldn't bet against that.
It's crazy. It defies everything.
And Gronk. And Gronk.
Gronk was insane tonight his hands were good but but dak actually like he was i think dak was almost more impressive yeah in a way than tom brady was because we didn't know what we were going to get the ankle the the shoulder everything with dak and cd lamb keeps dropping passes he would have had an even better night if he didn't do that well that pass that dak threw his best pass of the night was intercept night, was intercepted because it hit off CeeDee Lamb's hands going across the middle. It was one of those throws in real time.
It was like, Dak, what are you doing? You saw the replay, and it was the perfect pass. Yes, it was.
It can't get any better. It was the perfect pass.
And if you look at Cowboys fans, this is what I really like about this game tonight. It was a loss, so the Washington football team is in first place in the NFCB still.
True, tied, three-way tie. Yeah, three-way tie.
But Dak Prescott gave so much hope to Cowboys fans that they are officially ready to have their hearts broken. Yes.
Oh, yeah. Because, yeah, I walked away from that being like Dak looks just as good as he did right before he had that horrific cramp last year that put him out for the year.
So the only other thing I had was, are we sure Bruce Arians is okay? I thought he looked good tonight. He's so red.
No, he was less red than normal. Do you remember the picture of him at the White House? I think if you cut Bruce Arians open, it'd be marinara sauce.
That's how red he is. So it wasn't like, I don't know, I feel like Bruce hasn't made the switch from tequila to gin yet.
And when that happens, that's when the Pantones really shift on his face. But I think he's been out of the sun for at least the month of August.
I think he's kind of been an indoor cat for at least the last couple weeks. Because when you saw him at the White House, he was like 10 times better.
That's true. And Mike McCarthy, mike mccarthy for uh being smart knowing it's a
florida muggy night he layered up so much that he was sweating through his entire first layer but you couldn't tell it wasn't like a sean miller situation where his nipples started showing he had like six more layers to go he's a big time dad yeah it's like you know what you can always take layers off but you can't put them back right exactly uh i had i had one other thing well first of all the the numbers fucking suck the new numbers the single digits on running backs on cornerbacks it looks like a bunch of kickers running out there on the field leonard fournette being seven there was that one play where tom brady was trying to pass to leonard fournette number seven and digs intercepted it number seven and i know people are like well you watch college football you're a huge college football fan college football yes they there's there's duplicate numbers sometimes like on special teams but it still just is not right in the nfl they were cowboys had a they had number one out there that's the thing there's ones there's too many 11s and just the number one and seven appear too many times they're backup quarterback numbers you think you see that you see the number one and you're, is Taysom Hill in this game? What's going on? I think he's two. What is he? James is two, I think.
Yeah, James is two. What is Taysom? Seven.
Seven? Seven. Yeah, that sounds right.
But you see the number one running down the field and you think, oh, this is a gadget play. Who's this dual threat quarterback they just decided to make a wide receiver? No, it's like soccer.
It looks like a bunch of soccer players out there on the field wearing soccer numbers which i don't like uh on nfl thursday nights now there there was one big i'd say like the mojo moment of the game was vitae just vitae dominating the game just a large human being it's it's so cool whenever there's a defensive lineman that has that big poofy hair you can be really, but you can probably exist in the league for 12 years if you weigh over 300 pounds and have long hair and play on the defensive line. I looked up what his name was, and I need Jake to pronounce this.
This is going to be the ultimate test of Jake's skill. Vita Vey's full name.
Jake, can you try to give it to me? Yeah, so I looked it up. I didn't see an exact pronunciation guide.
I saw some people saying it on YouTube, tried to listen to it. So we're going to go with Tevita Tuliakiono Tui Pelotu Mosis Vahe Fahoko Faliatau Vea.
Great job, Jake. Way to go, Jake.
Way to go, Jake. I hope that's right.
I think we might be a clapping podcast now because I feel the energy in this room. Yeah, it's definitely rising.
It really feels good. So I guess in conclusion, it was a statement.
If this was college football, the Dallas Cowboys would still be in the playoff picture. Yeah, no, they would have gone from the 12th ranking to the 14th.
They might have even gone up if they were ranked number 12 and they lost to number one in this fashion. True, true.
All right. Okay, so we're going to get to our weekend preview.
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All right.
So where does this lose?
Eagles plus 7.5.
These are adjusted lines.
Eagles plus 7.5.
Does it lose?
No.
They're going to win Moneyline.
Okay. Like it, Hank.
Niners money line. Okay.
Yeah. Against the Lions.
Cardinals, Titans over 41 and a half. Adjusted.
That's easy. Okay.
It's light work. And then we finish the day.
So those are the one o'clock games. Then you get to the four o'clock games.
Chiefs money line. Against the Browns.
Against the Browns. I actually like the Browns plus 6, but Chiefs money line to win that game, does it lose? I don't think it loses.
I feel like the Browns could do it. And we're going to get to the Chiefs offensive line, which you brought up.
I think they're going to be better this year. Yeah.
But early in the year, they might not be. Yeah, no.
Again, Browns plus 6 makes sense, but I think the Chiefs will find a way to win the game because of Patrick Mahomes. That sounds like the easiest one you've ever had.
Oh, my God, don't say that. Can it lose? It could, but it can't.
Can't. If that makes sense.
It could, but it's not going to. I think it's going to be somewhere around plus 250, so go find in the Barstool Sportsbook app.
All right. And if you have a gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER thank you Hank uh nine states nine states Tennessee and Arizona added Virginia's added Colorado's added Illinois Indiana New Jersey Pennsylvania Michigan I think I got all of them wow uh being able to live bet and watch games all right all right let's get to the rest of the show.
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a little fantasy fuckboys. Then we got Pete Prisco and Firefest on the other side.
So we're going to talk about, we'll touch on all the games, but let's first introduce this. So we just hatched this idea in the PMT studio.
It is ultimate chaos. We have danced around it the last few years where we do, we pick an over and under, a favorite, an underdog.
Most people are like, all right, well, whatever, these don't mean anything because well there was that year that hank had to kill the debutante that's right you had to kill a debutante but this year here is the deal all six of us in the room bubba hank jake billy myself pft we're gonna go we're gonna pick our favorite underdog over under every single week. Four picks.
At the end of the season, regular season,
the last
place guy
and the second place guy.
So yes, you heard that correct. The last place
guy, the person with the worst picks,
and the second place guy, the person with
the second best picks
will have to
drive from New York to LA
to the Super Bowl. Just the two of
them. It is chaos.
It is chaos. It is utter chaos.
Because there's no way to plan out what's going to happen in that last week. When it's down to somebody's going to be second place.
Second place. Someone's going to be third.
Second place is the chaos thing. Billy was just asking, well, why don't you just throw it if you're in second place? Not realizing that we're all so bad at gambling that it's impossible to throw it.
If we were to make our picks of the week, they're probably not going to hit at anything above 56%.
Correct.
I would die for 56%.
It would be amazing.
If I get 56%, I would suck a dick for 56% this year.
That's my line that I usually don't say on air, but yes, I agree.
Yes.
That's usually...
You've said that on the air. I usually wait till I need a win really badly.
You just pulled the Bobby Bowden third down. Ghost game.
Or Alar Khan's mom using Jesus in the second preseason game. I used up my dick game.
It's too early for that. Yes.
You got to at least wait till week five for your S&D game. Well, no, I said I'd suck a dick for 56% overall on the season.
But still, you wasted it. No, but on a big goal.
Yeah, I don't know. It's got to be a specific goal.
Do I have to actually suck a dick if... 56.
Love is love. 56, yeah.
No shaming. Sex positive podcast.
All right. So that is going to be the competition.
Let's just talk real quick.
Worst combos to have to do this drive together.
I just off the top of my head, I think the combo that is most likely to crash and die
is probably Billy and Liam.
Liam doesn't drive.
Bubba doesn't drive.
So that's going to be and we know his history with cars. And the lights? Not green lights.
Yes. Yellow? Yeah, I was in a pretty bad car accident my freshman year of college, where if I'm in the passenger seat.
No, no, no. This is way before I got hit by a car.
Allegedly. I was in a passenger seat, and I put my head through the window every time I flinch when I'm sitting there.
So I hate driving. Let's just hope that Bubba doesn't finish last place or second place.
And then I got hit by a car after that so I hate it even more now. So I'd say Billy and Bubba is probably the least likely to survive.
I'm actually a really good driver. Right, but what he just said he doesn't drive so you have to do the whole drive whole drive.
I think Billy would be a world-class passenger. Yeah.
I think Billy would be, he would maybe be my 1-1 shotgun guy. The most likely to be enemies at the end would be Jake and Billy.
That would be an electric drive. We'll obviously document this entire thing.
We had some good bonding on Gritly. That's right.
You talked about what your goals were. Yeah.
I think the most normal one is probably me and Hank or me and PFT or PFT and Hank. I think any of that combo, it's like, okay.
It's a good triangle. Good content, but probably not going to have any.
No one's going to die. No one's going to fight each other.
Although if it is me and Big Cat on this trip across the country and you guys are just like high-stepping in our faces while in our car, me and Big Cat will turn on each other very quickly. No, we'll turn on you.
But I think it's liable that we're just going to go insane
if they're going fine.
Right, but we will turn on them.
We might fire them by the time we get to Los Angeles.
We won't turn on each other.
We will turn on all of them.
We might put out a Craigslist ad seeking new producers.
Right.
No, we will hatch up ways to get all of you fired.
I would also feel like objectively,
I would feel shame not going,
or it would be weird for me to not go with you guys just producing because it's like someone would have to go right but I know GoPros we just strapped the whole fucking car up yeah right okay um I think I that would give me anxiety if it was you too I'm probably the most rooting against that most unfortunate to go would be me because it would just add another three days to being away from my family that would suck suck. But guess what? I'm a man of the people.
This is for the listeners. Yeah, I did have to clarify with you before.
I was like, you 100% positive. I'll do it.
You're saying this in September. Yeah, I'll do it.
Make sure you keep that same energy in January. I love to drive.
Yeah, you do love to drive. The open road is actually nice.
It's like a meditative thing for me sometimes. I like doing long car trips except for the state of Pennsylvania.
I was going to say, once you get to the state of Pennsylvania and still have 36 hours to go, that will probably suck. The state of Pennsylvania is so fucking wide.
It's a chode of a state. It takes like seven hours just to get through it.
And it'll be winter. That's the other thing that's going to be an X factor.
For the record, if Big Cat finishes second or last, I will volunteer. No, no.
You did almost have the mud
wrestle guy last weekend. I don't know if you even
realized that. I'm not on call on weekends.
It wasn't going to be on the weekend,
but it was... Weekday, I got you.
The guy who challenged me to a mud wrestling
duel if Tulane beat Oklahoma
and they almost did. I think that Billy
would be great to have
as a road trip shotgun guy for
two days. I think day three
it's like, I need
to be electric. I think we also should, to make it interesting, obviously, people just don't want to hear us rattle off our picks.
So when you do do your picks, some reasoning, we'll talk about the game that you pick, whatever it may be. That's how we will do our preview on Fridays.
Okay? So let's start. Let's start.
We'll start with our favorites. And again, let's have discussion off of them because that will be what people actually want to hear.
We've written our picks down. Yep.
Ink and paper, old school style. Yep.
What does Mike Wilbon say? I like to get a little ink under my fingernails. Ink under my fingers.
Yep. All right.
So let's start. Billy, why don't you start and we'll go around the room.
We'll end up back with me. And again, we'll just do discussion on each one.
No, just a favorite.
Yep.
Okay.
My favorite is Chiefs minus 5.5.
I feel like that's just a layup.
All right.
So I have thought about that Chiefs bet. And it's actually, I'll reveal my can't lose parlay, the first one of the season after
all this.
But I'm a little nervous about the Chiefs' full revamp of their
offensive line. That feels like it could be good, but it also could be worse, right? Well, yeah, we talked about it with Pete Briscoe, but you also don't know.
So I'm still in the mindset with Patrick Mahomes that as long as you have Patrick Mahomes, then everything will be fine. That's true.
He's a nice, warm meal. You can count on him.
I hate week one of the NFL because you, that every week one of the NFL, you know that there's going to be an upset that no one saw coming and you know that, but you still are like, oh yeah, chiefs niners, like they're going to fucking crush people. There'll be one team that loses week one where I'm going to teaser killer.
Until like week seven or week eight. I'm going to be like, this team's a fraud.
And then once they start putting together a string of like seven, eight wins in a row, I'll be like, okay, I guess I was wrong about them. What are you going to say, Bill? I was feeling that about the Bucs.
I feel like they're going to be upset. Oh, okay.
Well, this is now time traveling because we already watched the game and talked about it. Okay, so maybe it does happen.
But Chiefs, they got to the Super Bowl with that bad offensive line. Right.
So now they have a new offensive line, which isn't necessarily a bad offensive line. But they did get a lot of injuries towards the end of the season, so yeah.
But yes, you're right. We'll see.
You're right. Jake, favorite? My favorite's going to be Washington football team minus one.
Okay, that's mine as well? Mine as well. Alright, great, good.
Is it yours? Well, no, it's not, but
it's something, I've made
an intentional selection this year.
At least on this first game, I'm
going to bet heavy on the Chargers.
No, you can't do that.
What's wrong with you? Seriously, that's
what? Fan card.
I'll tell you exactly why.
Because I've done the equation in my head, and I think
we've all probably thought about doing this, but I think
this is the year I'm actually going to do it because
I regrettably equation in my head. And I think we've all probably thought about doing this.
But I think this is the year I'm actually going to do it because I regrettably have expectations for the Washington football team. But I'm going to bet against them because I've made the decision in my brain of how many dollars I'm willing to pay for a win.
No. And so I'm going to – why? Why not? Because when you're watching your team, it's almost like a free roll of like you have the investment.
So either you bet on them or if you don't like them to win, you just root really hard because that's fandom. I also like the Chargers a lot this year.
A scary amount to the point where I was talking to Stu Feiner and I was like, Stu, I love Justin Herbert. I have a future on him to win the MVP.
I have a future on the Chargers to win their division. And he was like, so do I.
The Chargers are the best team in the AFC. I'm putting all my money on the Chargers this year.
So now I'm like, fuck. I love Stu, but I don't know if you want to be in the Foxville with him week one.
Yeah. No, he struggles out of the gate.
So, Hank, you have the Washington football team. I do as well.
Yeah, I hate favorites, so I just pick the smallest favorite. Yeah, I don't like laying big numbers.
Week one, so many unknowns. Also, Chargers
going to the East Coast. New coaching staff.
Washington football team's defense is
incredible. Fitzmagic,
early season. Yeah, so that's my pick
as well. I think the turf in Raljan might
be too good this year. They replaced the
entire stadium. They haven't had any concerts
on it. So,
all the team that's there right now has never had a
chance to practice on that field. So, it's going to be a little bit bit different all right Bubba uh Pats minus three and a half okay okay Mac Jones about all the Alabama quarterbacks I uh I feel like I feel like that came to toss up I feel like Mac Jones is gonna be really good I don't know why like just the fact he was like the best college quarterback ever well yeah that probably helps um but also just Belichickick choosing him and emphatically choosing him.
I'm already ready to give him time. I think people are going to – I'm not ready to do the overreaction after every game, especially after hearing Peyton Manning and all these people talk about how you do need a good amount of time to develop.
If he loses early on, I'm not going to be freaking out about it. It's also almost a good thing that he has that – And if he wins early on, I'm not going to be like, he's the greatest quarterback of all time because it will regress the frumpy picture that came out of college that's that's almost done him a favor because people are like if you suck and you have that frumpy image and you're on any team except for the patriots people are like oh this guy's not in great shape but because tom brady had that draft picture people are like this guy fits our system yeah the um i i just, like, what is the best possible situation for a quarterback to go into?
And it's Bill Belichick as your head coach.
And, like, they will – like, if there's one coaching staff that's like, all right, we're going to just play to all your strengths and not ask you to do too much, it's Mac Jones.
So, yeah.
I just want to see him fight.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like fist fight?
No, just battle.
I want to see him battle.
I was like, what kind of perverted shit is that, dude? No. Do you want to see him take his shirt off and fight? No.
I wouldn't mind seeing that, actually. Yeah, it would be interesting.
I would, yeah. Actually, really enjoy seeing that.
What's your favorite PFT? My favorite, I'm going to go with the Broncos. I like it.
At the Giants, Spready Bridgewater. He covers all the time.
He's the best quarterback in the history of the league, probably covering the spread. Teddy two gloves.
Teddy two gloves. As Steve and Chase said last night, skinny knees, big dick.
Yep. Minus three.
So the Broncos minus three. I like that.
I like that. I think their defense can be really, really good.
Also, I'm betting against the Giants until proven otherwise. Yeah.
I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that.
Billy, your underdog. Chargers plus one.
Okay. I think they're going to upset.
All right. So we talked about that game.
You and PFT betting on the Chargers. Does anyone else have that? No.
Jake, your underdog. Going to go with Cardinals plus three at the Titans.
I like the Cardinals this year. NFC West, good division.
Very good. Very good.
Going against our guy, Mike Vrabel. Am I insane? Were the Cardinals not even that good last year? I feel like the Cardinals are a hot team.
Hail Mary. Yeah, they're a hot team to talk about.
Everybody's been saying that offense is going to be really dangerous this year. But I don't know.
I just feel like I'm taking crazy pills where the Cardinals. Yeah.
The Bears beat them out for that playoff. And they didn't even look that good for the most part last year.
I'm not a believer in Cliff Kingsbury, and I also think I can't figure out why. I know Julio Jones is older, but I just feel like we're going to see, when is the Titans' first Monday Night Football game or Sunday Night Football game? Find that for me because my brain just thinks in storylines.
There's going to be an entire... Week 6, home against the Bills.
Perfect. So week 6, home against the Bills.
They're going to do like a 20-minute segment about how everyone forgot about Julio Jones. Because he has...
At week 6, he already has like 6 touchdowns and 500 yards. Well, it might be that, or it might be he's got like 600 yards receiving
in week six and zero touchdowns.
And no one's talking about it.
Yeah.
Maybe it will be Derrick Henry and Julio Jones together,
like maybe an athletic freak segment.
Maybe bring back Rick Riley.
Get a bunch of the kids they played against in high school.
Yeah.
You can see it, can't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. Your favorite.
The Steelers. Oh, no, the underdog.
Underdog. Sorry, underdog.
The Steelers, plus six and a half. I hate that pick.
I hate it, too. Are you on Moneyline? Is that a question? Yeah.
Hank, you do hate our friends. It's pathological at this point.
Absolutely not. I mean, the Bills are a division rival.
We've talked all offseason. It's your guys oh to the patriots okay you guys i've talked all fucking offseason about this diet how big ben has changed he's a new quarterback he is he's skinny and i've bought in i've sat here in the producer chair i've listened to you guys like talk about how good that's going to be for him and how the team's going to be good they already have a good defense i okay and it's this is the ultimate like everyone's so high on the bills this is the game you guys were talking about here's though my mind my this game to And this is the ultimate, like, everyone's so high on the Bills.
This is the game you guys were talking about. Here's, though, this game, to me, this is the number one fan game of the weekend.
I think this crowd is going to be so electric and people are like, oh, fuck, we forgot how much fans can impact a game. True.
However, there's something new in the Bills tailgate this year. I just saw today.
They're not doing the catch-up They're not doing the ketchup spray. COVID? Pinto Ron? They're not doing the bowling ball shot anymore.
Might be COVID issues. I don't know.
How is the ketchup thing COVID? I don't know. Yeah, it's probably COVID, though.
Yeah, COVID. Protocols? Yeah.
Well, they lick the ketchup off. People don't see that part.
Everyone in Buffalo licks it off. They just walk up with hot dogs and spread them on.
Spread it all over.
Yeah, so I think the Bills in Buffalo, that's going to be the fan game of the week
where we look back and we're like, holy shit, that was awesome.
They look incredible.
And then they'll probably lose week two against the Dolphins
because they will be at Miami.
It'll be a letdown spot.
All right, Bubba.
Saints plus three and a half. Okay, nice.
I think you might actually get four there. Let me double check.
I just looked. It was three and a half.
I just feel like it's the 4.30 game and it's going to be late, close, with Aaron Rodgers driving down the field. So I feel like it's just going to be close.
Famous Jameis. I love it.
I like Sean Payton in a close game too. Playeded in Jacksonville.
But, yeah, I'm so excited for Jameis. That one's a Moneyline special, too.
Jameis is – I mean, I'm just so excited to watch Jameis play. I really am.
I'm really excited to watch him be a starter. Yep.
Your underdog. I'm going to get so mad, though, when he does the exact same thing that he did to Drew Brees last year and he takes Drew Brees out in an obvious passing situation and puts Taysom Hill in, I'm going to get extra mad when Sean Payton decides to do that to R.
Jameis this year. Agreed.
All right, your underdog. My underdog, I'm taking the Colts at home, plus three.
Ooh, okay. Colts at home, no word on the roof just yet from Mr.
Ursa. Still waiting on that tweet.
But right now, it's plus three Colts at home against the Seahawks. Seahawks, they might get my fraud stamp.
What do you say when you're writing it? I call it my way too early fraud stamp. My way too early fraud stamp goes to Seattle.
I would like that pick if Carson Wentz wasn't playing. I'm okay with it.
Carson Wentz has reached territory where if you tell me the Colts are plus three and who's their back – who's their first backup? Jacob Eason. Yeah, Jacob Eason's playing.
I'd be like, oh, I like that. That's plucky.
Like, if you tell me Carson Wentz, he's just going to spin around and get sacked. Well, I think – you know what I've done? I've fallen into the mental trap that the entire city of Philadelphia fell into for the last three years, which is I'm convinced that Carson Wentz can be a good quarterback with his old quarterback coach in the right system.
He can play like an MVP again. So I'm already thinking maybe that might be something that could happen week one.
I don't expect him to start the entire season, obviously, but I like the Colts at home right now. All right, my underdog is going to be the Eagles plus three and a half.
I feel like we've kind of written off of written off the Eagles going into this season. Um, and I don't think the Falcons are going to
be good. Their defense is not really improved.
Obviously their offense is going to be electric
because it always is. But yeah, I think we like, whether it be the new coach or Jalen hurts or
whatever it may be, we've kind of said, Oh yeah, the Eagles are going to suck. I feel like that's
where they're going to be. I don't know, that 7-10 7-10 7-9-1 area where there will be a moment where they're competing for the NFC East sometime in like mid-November I have this game circled as me I don't know who's going to win but something stupid's going to happen in the fourth quarter game something real dumb is going to happen alright over Steel to happen.
Oh, yeah. All right.
Over. Steelers-Bills, 48 and a half.
All right. We've talked about that game.
Good pick. I'm with Billy.
I have that, too. Okay.
I have that, too. All right.
Four of them on that over. Okay.
Okay. Hank.
All right. I'm going to respect the rules.
If I was not going to respect the rules, I would just switch my under to that pick. But that's why it's good to be running down before.
So that's where your brain's at. Okay, good to know.
Yep, already cheating. No.
You're mentally cheating. You're emotionally cheating.
No, I'm going to bet the under for sure. Right.
But for the sake of the contest, that's why it's good to write them down. Yes.
I'm a man of honor. My over is Lions 49ers.
Same with mine. Jared Goff, MVP.
Put a little money in it on the Barstool Sportsbook. Something to think about.
45 is the number there. I like it.
It's great odds. Oh, that's your under? Yeah.
Okay, well, we'll get to the under. So 45, and by the way, the Bills Steelers is 48 and a half over.
So those are our overs. I do think the 49ers are going to whoop the Lions just because the 49ers are healthy for the first time in a year and a half.
But Jared's going to put up numbies. But Jared's going to put up numbies.
Exactly. Agreed on that.
A little fun stat for the Lions. They could become the first team ever to beat every single bird team in the NFL this year.
Dan Campbell might be a bird hunter. Wow.
Okay. I like that.
All right. We go to our under.
I think we've touched almost every game, but let's go to our under. Billy.
Jacksonville, Texans.
There we go.
We hadn't touched that game.
45 and a half.
I just feel like it's going to be a sloppy game.
I can't name one person on the Texans, as PFT pointed out.
Yes, you can.
Tyrod Taylor.
Deshaun Watson.
Yeah.
He doesn't count, though.
Are we, like, we're just not going to talk about it?
I have them on my fancy fuckboys.
Really? I mean, it's just, no, I'm not talking about us personally i'm just saying the media deshaun watson yeah and they're just not going to talk about wait is he playing no no okay no like that's i think it's just the most bizarre thing that has unfolded now everybody's very confused as to what's going on yeah because i think the reason nobody's really talking about is because no matter what is true it's an insanely fucked up situation correct like best best case scenario for humanity is that deshaun watson uh is being set up by like 25 women making these accusations worst cases he's like the biggest pervert in the history of organized sports in america possibly And on top of everything that's going on off the field for Deshaun Watson, it's like totally forgotten the fact that he demanded a trade right before all this came out. So he doesn't even want to play for the Texans.
And I don't even know if the Texans want to have him play. No.
It's a very bizarre situation. All right.
Good under. I'm going to go 49ers-Lions under 45.
And that's Liam's as well. Yes, two quarterbacks and two teams at new quarterbacks, maybe a little.
What? Jimmy G? Oh, are they starting Jimmy G? Yeah, yeah. I'll keep the pick.
Okay. I thought they were starting Trey Lance.
That's a research mistake. That's okay.
That's okay. Happens.
Yeah, it happens. Go ahead.
Eagles, Falcons, The Birds. Low-scoring Bird game.
Eagles are a joke.
Falcons have been a joke.
Eagles are a joke.
It's just going to be an ugly, ugly game.
Just a joke.
Just laughing.
I mean, they have their quarterback disaster.
Isn't it a dome?
Why is Jalen Hurts a disaster?
No, but they don't know. You don't like Alabama quarterbacks?
No, it's not that.
I just didn't.
Didn't they trade for...
Maybe not. I don't know.
That's my pick. He's an Oklahoma quarterback.
Hey, it's not that. I just didn't.
Didn't they trade for... Maybe not.
I don't know.
That's my pick.
He's an Oklahoma quarterback.
Hey, it's still preseason for us when we're taping this.
That might be a sneaky over, though.
It could be Kyle Pitts.
Falcons.
Just remember Kyle Pitts.
Hurts put up numbers.
Yeah.
Dude, that offense has probably, what, 10 first-round picks?
It's a lot.
They might be nine now because they traded Julio Jones.
I actually think that the Falcons have the most talented offense in the NFL.
Yes.
If this was six years ago.
Yes.
All right.
PFT, your under.
My under is going to be the Jets at the Panthers.
Ooh.
Under 44.
Darnold revenge game.
It's a low number.
The Sam Darnold revenge game.
Yeah.
I actually like the Jets' new head coach.
I like Salah a lot.
So, especially as a defensive coach. I don't know what the offense
is going to look like. It's not going to look any worse
than Adam Gase. I'm pretty confident
in that.
But I do like the defense a lot, so I'm going to go under 44.
The Panthers are one of those teams that
I need to see Sam Darnold
in a regular season game for me to stop thinking
Teddy Bridgewater's their quarterback.
For me, it's like the Panthers have they've got low points jerseys. The jerseys just feel like not a lot of points to me.
And a low point field. Although, did they put the NFL logo? They took the NFL logo off.
There's only one field that still has that. That's the Meadowlands.
And that's my under. I think NFL logo fields just go under.
It's slow. Yes, it is slow.
So that's my under. It's 41 and a half.
The Broncos-Giants game. I don't know.
I guess I could get fucked by Daniel Jones just throwing like five pick sixes. But that would be my under.
Oh, wait. No, that's not my under.
Shit. I'm an idiot.
I had that written down. My under is the Bears-Rams.
My under is the Bears-Rams, 46 and a half. I don't think the Bears are going to score 13 points.
So I'm very low on this game. And you don't think that Matt Stafford's going to go out and this is going to be his announcement game? This is actually the latest in a career that somebody could have a coming out party.
Yeah, no, I think that the Rams are going to be good, but the Bears' defense is still decent.
They still got some dudes.
Our offensive line is so bad.
Andy Dalton's going to look so bad.
The game's going to be so bad, and I'm going to feel so bad.
So that's an under.
Add all those so bads up, that's an under.
You have 46 and a half.
What is it?
It says 47 now. Oh, 47.
Then give me 47. There we go.
Bank error in my favor. All right.
Any games that we didn't touch? This actually was a very efficient way to talk about all the games on Sunday. I think we hit them all.
Oh, Vikings-Bengals. Only game we didn't hit.
The only note I have on that is the giraffe named after Joe Burrow died today. That's significant.
Yeah, so we do need to discuss it.
That's Bengals Mortal Lock.
Do we need to go?
Bengals Mortal Lock.
Bengals Mortal Lock.
Mortal Lock.
R.I.P.
What's his name?
How old was that giraffe?
Joe Raff.
I need that right now on the record.
All systems Joe.
Joe Raff.
Did they name him that when he was born?
I don't know.
I just.
Oh.
It would be a great name for a giraffe.
Yeah.
The Joe Raff.
Let's see. By the way.
Oh, it's Burrow with the E-O-X. Oh, okay.
You know what would be a great name for that if he was still at college? It would just be Neck. That would be great.
Great giraffe. Should we talk at least a second about Jamar Chase being like, I can't see the ball? That feels bad.
It might be a little bit of fake news there, Big Cat. Oh, is it? Did Florio get us? Florio might have gotten us with his classic bait-and-switch clickbait Florio.
Damn. Never trust anybody goes by PFT.
Why can't you trust Florio? What was the original report? Florio had a report that Jamar Chase, because, you know, the... No, it's true.
It's true, but there's a little bit of context. So the football's in the NCAA.
We've talked about it a million times with Brady Quinn having a fuckable spiral. It's because they have that white paint.
It looks better in the air. The footballs in the NFL don't have that.
There was a tweet, which I guess I'm very much part of the people who see a tweet, don't read the article, just see the tweet. So the tweet was essentially that Jamar Chase is having trouble seeing the ball.
He's had noted drops during preseason and practice. He's having trouble seeing the ball without the white paint.
PFT, you have the context? Yeah, so the context of that tweet was that there was a question asked where they asked him to describe the differences between an NFL ball and a college ball. The reporter asked him that question.
And it's not like Jamar Chase went out there and was like, hey, just so you know, I've got hands like Nelson Aguilar in Philadelphia because the paint isn't on the ball anymore. They asked him very specifically what it was.
And the way that I know this is because somebody tagged me on Twitter instead of accidentally tagging Florio and told me to do myself a favor and buy a tall stool and a strong rope for writing this story out of context. So Florio, that was meant for you.
I probably wouldn't need that tall of a stool. You should text that to him.
So the question was, why did you have a lack of focus? And he just said, it's a bigger ball adjustment. I don't want to make any excuses.
I got to be a pro and make that catch. That sounds like an excuse.
And then you mentioned early on the NFL ball is a little bit different. How is it different, and was that more than you expected? And he just said the ball is different.
He described why the ball is different. Got it.
Because it's bigger and it doesn't have the stripes on it. But he said for the most part just got used to it, find out what I'm comfortable with catching and going from there.
You know what? The more I say it out loud, I'd like to apologize to Florio. Yeah, that sounds like he's having trouble with the ball.
Because it sounds like he is just saying, like, I missed the white stripes on the ball. Yes.
Like this ball was easier to catch when it had the cool design on it. Yes, absolutely.
So, Florio, I hope you kept the receipt for the tall stool and the strong rope. I hope you bought a weak rope.
Yeah.
And a taller stool.
Yeah.
Just a very sad attempt.
Yeah.
You crash to the ground immediately.
A stool that can't be flipped over.
It knocked.
Yeah.
It knocks the wind out of you.
A stool that is nailed to the ground.
Yeah.
Florida, do me a favor.
Go to the store, buy a gun, but put one of those old timey flags in it that says bang
when it comes out and then point it at your head. Buy a gun and buy your wife a Pepsi.
Yep. And then just have that exchange in your house.
Okay, that took a little, what? Kendall Jenner? Kylie Jenner? Shout out, she's pregnant again, right? I know. It's Kylie.
Kylie? Kylie's pregnant? Is she the one with the Pepsi? Kendall's the one with the Pepsi. Kendall's the one with the Pepsi.
Kylie's the one with the baby. Also shout out John Mulaney.
Olivia Munn. Hot.
That timeline matches up. Yep.
Yeah. Wow.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be punching the air right now. Yeah.
Definitely. That's why I'm taking the Saints.
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers is going to be mad.
Revenge game. He's going to be mad mad.
A celebrity revenge game. All right.
Let's do Fantasy Fuck Boys. then we got Pete Prisco talking all about the NFL.
We hop around with him. A little preview of everything.
Let's do it. Oh, baby.
Yeah, we're off to a hot start. Yeah, let's go.
High energy from the H-Men. My fucking name is Lateral McChaderal.
My stardom is Arm Press Extensions. Yeah, okay.
Time to get fucking into season. It's bulking season.
Billy's laughing. He knows how key of a fucking exercise this is.
You want your arms to get big. You gotta extend them.
You gotta press them. You gotta push.
You gotta pull. Send that to the Taliban, those weak fucks.
Fucking triceratops over here with those arms. My sit-em is Deshaun Watson.
What'd he do? I don't know what he did, but he's not starting this week. If you fucking drafted him on your team, you don't want to play him because he's not fucking playing.
I don't know why. For the record, Deshaun Watson perverted.
Pervert. Not Italian.
Not Italian. And my sleeper is Chili.
Oh, that's mine. Sit him.
That's my sleeper. I love chili.
It's that time of year. Get out the crock pot.
Not yet. Yeah, it is.
Not yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to be under 70 degrees. No, yeah.
Yeah. No, yeah.
No. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Chili.
Oh, yeah. If it's football on the TV, it's stinky butt season.
Fuck yeah. All right.
What's up, dickheads?
This is Andrew Cuomo.
Come here.
Let me give you a little sugarino on your team. Get away from me.
Come on.
Yeah.
There we go.
Yeah.
Daddy's here.
Don't touch me.
It's all right.
Don't fucking touch me.
This weekend, I'm starting Peppy.
That's right.
I'm starting Peppy.
The Peppy.
I'm talking Peppy, the superstar.
Peppy, the god for the U.S. men's national soccer team.
Pulisic, get off the stage. Torch passing scenario.
Pepe is god. The new playoff pee, bitch.
Soccer's number one pervert sport. We fucking won UEFA.
No hands. Oh, yeah.
That's my rule around the house now, too. How could I have done it? I got no hands.
Wait, I thought we lost. I'm good at soccer.
We won. Oh, yeah, that's my rule around the house now, too.
How could I have done it?
I got no hand.
Wait, I thought we lost.
I'm good at chugger.
We won.
Oh, yeah.
Not even allowed to.
3-1 in the middle of the night.
Play a little pinch and roll.
I'm sitting every Ravens running back ever of all time.
That's right.
They're all injured.
They all got weak knees.
Taking E-boys.
The offense is going to – you have to go Edgar Allen throw.
Never score, quote, for Ravens You have to go Edgar Allen throw. Never score.
Quote for Ravens.
Love it. I'm sleeping.
Your grandmother. Rest in peace.
Oh, damn.
Alright, what's up, guys? It's Tony Ravioli.
Tony Ravioli.
My stardom is going to be similar to
Andrew Cuomo's
sleeper. No, sit him.
The Ravens. I think Barry Sanders is going to make a comeback with the stardom.
The Ravens need a running back. Every name's getting thrown at the wall.
Let's get that out there. They get that guy Jamal Lewis out of prison yet? Yeah, Priest Holmes, where he at? Danny Woodhead.
We're all counting on you. Let's go.
Larry Johnson. If he's not busy chasing down pedophiles with QAnon, let's get him on the field.
Even better. All right.
My sit-em is our weather. Weather's sitting him because guess what? It's supposed to be like 75 degrees, sunny all weekend long, and I don't give a fuck because I'm going to be sitting inside watching football like a real man.
That's right. It's always 71 degrees, perfect humidity, and 100% chance of cold ones.
It just bummed me out thinking that I'm not even going to see the sun on Sunday. My sleeper is chilly.
Don't eat it yet. I'll give you the word.
Hey, how you doing, you fat fucks? It's Anzalone Trenbolone. My stardom is Gable Stevenson, because you know what? He's ready to rumble.
He's going to be going into WWE and still wrestling for Minnesota. My sit-um is Jamar Chase.
As we talked about, he can't fucking catch. He can't see shit.
He needs white lines. Whatever.
My sleeper. I got a couple white lines for you.
Sounds like you ripped a couple white lines. You're not taking a breath.
He's Johnny Manziel throwing him the ball. Test it for fentanyl.
Test it for fentanyl, guys. Please, no, seriously, dude.
Dude, test it. Get Narcon.
No, honestly. My sleeper is Steve from fucking Blue's Clues because you don't know when he's going to fucking show up.
Yeah, that guy's a weirdo. He's fucking boom, coming out of nowhere.
Make you think about shit. I didn't actually watch the video, but oh my god, it was so emotional.
I didn't watch it either. I just saw the memes.
Fucking deadbeat coming back after 16 years. Expect that I'm here.
He comes and walks in the door, expects me to roll out a nice meatball and gravy for him. Up your ass, Steve.
Who the fuck goes to college for a couple years? Dude, that guy. I like when viral videos happen and you just...
Our attention span is so low now. It's so small.
I just skip right to the memes. I'm not going to watch the video, but yeah, I'll consume the memes.
So I, I kept waiting for him to apologize for taking the shit in that hot tub. I thought he had a drug problem.
Oh, he's going bald. Ah, I thought there was like weird shit with him too.
Yeah. Like I thought that was an internet rumor thing.
Oh, he sucked his own dick. No, it was like, he like, yeah, like had to leave because of.
He had to get his stomach pumped. Yeah.
No, Marilyn Manson got a rib removed. No, but also he had to get his stomach pumped because he sucked off the Dallas Cowboys.
I think that was... Alanis Morissette.
Maybe Lil' Kim? That one varied depending on where you grew up. That was maybe Lil' Kim.
I don't know. All right, anyway.
Deshaun Watson. I had one last point on him.
Every year, one of the best fantasy football moments is when someone takes that first guy that's got like, oh, and everyone's just like, okay, dude. But they don't know.
Yeah, you have that moment where you're like, oh, so morals? Yeah, you're not drafting a team that morally sound? Or they're just that out of the loop. It's like your friend group that one of the guys might not even pay attention to NFL offseason storylines.
It's just like, yeah. Deshaun Watson, lighten it up.
What if it comes out that Deshaun Watson organized all of this and set himself up just so that he would try to get traded so he would get away from the Houston Texans? I actually think that's the best possible outcome just for all of our mental health. Yeah.
Yes. That if it was just, yeah, he is behind all of it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But it is always a very funny moment. Every person has gone through it in your fantasy football draft when the first questionable character gets taken.
Yeah, it's like, oh, okay, cool. Thought you were a father.
Oh, all right. Fine right fine all right let's go to uh pete prisco we got pete prisco we're gonna talk some nfl with pete we're gonna whip around uh pretty much we hit every team and uh yeah let's do that okay we now welcome on our very good friend pete prisco you can find him on cbssports.com he's an analyst for CBS Sports HQ.
We're going to do a little NFL preview with Pete. Pete, before we get to the NFL preview, I don't think we've had you on since our former governor, Andrew Cuomo, did his press conference saying he is not perverted.
He's just Italian. So the question to you is are you more italian or pervert oh more italian no i think the pause there is pervert that was a pervert pause well i mean no more italian much more much more wow oh yeah you had to think about it though i got i got an italian horn right here there we go oh he's taking off his shirt He's a pervert Wait Peter are you waxed? Huh? Do you wax your chest hair? No I don't have any I'm one of those Italians that has no hair You're just like a mole rat Italian Like a smooth little boy Yeah So wait So percentage wise Percentage wise 90% Italian 10% pervert Where do we land no 90 percent 10 yeah nine percent okay all right that's fair all right all right all right so not a pervert not a pervert um all right let's talk some football let's talk some nfl i we are this is a blank canvas uh i guess let's let's go high level first did you do a super bowl prediction Do you have two teams that you think are by far the best in the AFC and NFC? Well, I don't know if they're by far the best, but, yes, I do have a Super Bowl prediction.
And it's the Buffalo Bills winning it all, beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let's go, Pete.
I like that. I like that.
You might be the only person I've seen that actually has the balls to pick the Buffalo Bills to win. Everyone's like, the Bills are, you know, they're my team that you've got to watch out for.
They're going to be in the hunt. But everyone has the Chiefs beating them in the AFC.
But you think this is the year that it gets done in Buffalo? Well, for a couple reasons. One being, I think Josh Allen's only scratching the surface of what he's going to be as a quarterback.
And, you know, all that running around stuff he does and the called runs and everything, those are going to be, they're not going to be as many as those this year because he's going to be better in the pocket. He's going to go through his progressions better.
He's going to become a better quarterback. And then on the other side of the ball, the one thing they got to be able to do when you play Patrick Mahomes is knock him down.
Well, they've added a bunch of guys that can knock him down. Russo, Boogie Basham.
I think Epinesa's going to have a big year. They're going to be much better on defense.
And I think Sean McDermott's one of the most underrated coaches in the NFL. Okay, I agree with you there.
I like the Bills love. Let's use that to then go to the other team that you just mentioned, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Are you buying the whole storyline is the revamped offensive line are you buying this because I know looking at it they have five new guys like and that's very rare to just completely wash away your offensive line no continuity are you buying this Chiefs offensive line getting them back to I mean look they went to the Super Bowl last year it's not like they were bad but that clearly was their weakness that did them in are you buying it well on paper I'd say, look, they're to the Super Bowl last year. It's not like they were bad.
But that clearly was their weakness that did them in. Are you buying it? Well, on paper, I'd say, look, they're going to be better.
But you remember, there's three guys on that line that have never taken an NFL snap in a game. The center, Creed Humphrey, the right guard, Smith, and the right tackle.
They've never played in an NFL game. And so to sit here and say with 100% certainty they're going to be better would be mistaken.
I think you've got to let it play out. But on paper, do they have a chance to be significantly better? Yes.
Because I think sometimes we get caught up in older guys. And I'll use the Steelers as another example, by the way.
The line last year was a disaster. And they've got a bunch of young guys playing now.
It can't be any worse than what it was. And it's not going to be any worse for Kansas City than it was in the Super Bowl.
I can guarantee you that. But again, until we see them on the field together, they're talented, but you know that takes time for a group to mesh.
Give me a team. Give me your Rookies of the Year.
Who do you think are going to be the most impactful rookies? Are you a big Mac Jones guy? I think Mac Jones is going to be good. Trevor Lawrence is going to be rookie of the year because they're going to be bad on defense,
so he'll throw for a lot of yards because they're going to have to play from behind.
And so I think he's going to be the rookie of the year on the offensive side of the ball.
I think defensively, I think Joe Tryon is going to be the rookie of the year.
That kid's unblockable.
And it just depends on how many reps he's going to get
because they have other guys in Shaq Barrett and Jason Pierre-Paul
who can rush the passer.
But of all the guys I saw in training camp,
Thank you. And it just depends on how many reps he's going to get because they have other guys in Shaq Barrett and Jason Pierre-Paul who can rush the passer.
But of all the guys I saw in training camp,
he was the most impressive rookie of all of them.
I mean, he was unblockable at times.
And he's working against two good tackles in practice most of the time.
Yeah.
What do you think about the fact that Trevor Lawrence
hasn't played from behind that much?
Is it going to be unfamiliar ground for him?
Good question.
You know, and I've had some people – it's a good point you make, because I've had some GMs in the I've had some GMs in the league actually say what's he going to be like when he has some things he has to overcome, because he never did it in high school, he never did it in college. That's a very good assessment.
He'll have to do it week one, by the way, because I think that's going to be a tough game for them against the Texans on the road. I mean, just's throw out a random name like Sam Ellinger right if he gets time with the Colts he's been in games where he's been behind he's been in games that he's lost like he has that seasoned veteran feel to him right yeah and but but again this kid is so super talented that I don't think Sam Ellinger no oh Trevor Lawrence got it all right Trevor Lawrence is going to be – he'll be a superstar quarterback in this league.
But it is a good point because he's never had to deal with it. Yeah.
And until you have to deal with it, you don't know. So you just said that he might be playing from behind against the Texans this week.
Are you taking like the over – last I checked, what was the Texans over under? Like four, three and a half, three and a half games this season? I can't really name any players on the Texans that aren't their running backs or their quarterbacks. Yeah, I was going to say Tyrod Taylor and Deshaun Watson and Mark Ingram.
They've got the Johnson brothers, the Johnson & Johnson, David Duke backfield. No, Duke's gone.
No, they have Mark Ingram. No, but they brought – They have Mark Ingram and they have Phillip Lindsey now.
They brought Duke back, I think, on the practice squad. No, Jacksonville just brought Duke back.
Oh, really? Okay, this is breaking news. Okay.
So, anyway, when you look at the Texans, on paper, it's not a pretty team. But there's a lot of veterans who have played games.
And so, week in and week out, I think they're going to be feisty early in the season. They're not going to win a lot of games, but they're going to be feisty in games.
They're going to be a pain in the butt for teams.
Then at the end of the year, when they start losing all those games, then those veterans
will start booking those trips to Cancun and Aruba, and then they won't be very good at
the end.
That's why I predict.
The give-up point that happens.
I was just going to say, on the Texans front, I kind of agree with Pete that they've become
so much of the butt of every single joke about the NFL season this year that they're going to cover the spread at least in a few games where you might think that they might not, where they might be outclassed. Week one.
I feel like they're almost a good value team to bet on at this point. And as the season goes on, they're going to get worse and worse, not just for the reasons you said, Pete, but I think that the Texans, what they've done is they've just acquired a bunch of players that they think in the back of their mind will they'll get something for them over the course of the season they'll be able to trade away like a quarter of their roster because they've got all these vets and get some picks back some like second day picks and try to build for the future that way well they already traded they traded Bradley Roby today right I mean yeah I mean look the obvious question is are they tanking? Yeah.
Well, you can't tank in the NFL. You can't truly tank in the NFL because, like you said, guys are playing for their next contract.
Right. Because you can't tank because once guys get out there, they got to play because you're going to get hurt if you don't play.
I get it. I understand.
But I'm telling you, I think the Texans are going to be a tough out week in and week out they just won't win a lot of games okay so then tell me this because we're on bad teams which team will be picking first in next year's draft the lions okay i was gonna say it's it's probably a you know if you're picking from a group it's the the Lions, the Jaguars, maybe the Jets. Yeah, unless Zach Wilson is incredible.
I'm trying to think who else. No, wait.
Okay, so if Zach Wilson's incredible, they won't be picking last. But if Trevor Lawrence is incredible, the Jaguars will be picking first, I mean.
Right? You would agree with that. Yeah, I think the Jets.
I mean, doesn't it feel like the Jets might have a little bit more on defense than the Jaguars right now?
No.
Because the Jaguars' defense completely changed.
Yeah, but they got – okay, the Jaguars, if you look at it position by position, the Jaguars' corners are better, significantly better.
Yeah, you're right, and they play in the AFC South.
The AFC East is going to be very competitive.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
Do you think the – if I had to give you a gun to your head, Dolphins or Patriots, one of those teams makes the playoffs, which one are you picking? Patriots. Really? You believe in Matt Jones? Yeah, because I think their offensive line is significantly better.
I think defensively they've added – you know, they get Hightower back, but they also get a bunch of guys like Josh Uche is going to have a great year for them.
And Belichick knows defense.
And the concern is, what do you do throwing the football?
Because the receivers aren't great.
I think they're going to run the ball.
I think Harris is going to have a monster year behind that offensive line.
He'll take the pressure off Mac Jones.
He'll get comfortable at the end of the year.
And they're going to be a playoff team.
Well, here's a quick trivia question for you, Pete.
Who was the last rookie quarterback to win a playoff game? Was it Sanchez? Nope. Who was it? It's your boy, Russell Wilson.
Was he the last one? In that game against the former Washington Redskins football team, when it was him and RG3, the game I believe you dubbed the toilet bowl because it was just going to be read options, and you thought that that trend trend would go away. Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, the read option did go away in Washington that day.
It did, yeah. Well, that had more to do with the field.
Yeah, FedEx Field won that game. Ralph John won, football team zero.
Well, he was never the same after that. I know, I know.
But I think that had less to do with the actual style of football that they were playing that day and more to do with the surface of the field. You remember the toilet bowl reference.
I like that. I do, yeah.
That's when I saw your takes and I was like, I like this guy. I think me and this guy can butt heads.
Also because we're the same height. Yeah, 5'1".
Pete, give me the team or teams, maybe go AFC and NFC, that you'll be most disappointed in most disappointed in that i'm going to be disappointed or the world is going to be disappointed that they have high expectations okay so the rams so are you of the mindset the rams obviously have some great top end talent they probably don't have the depth and stafford has to be i we were talking about this about a month ago, like Stafford. I've always thought Stafford's good.
I've always thought he's better than, you know, what the lions were able to put around him. But what if he's not as good as people expect him to be in Sean McVay's offense and with the Rams, because this is kind of, this is it for him.
Like this is the big the big step up everything's supposed to be in place for him he's got to perform really really well this year well there's a lot of pressure on him and I I'm I'm gonna Matt Stafford camp I think Matt Stafford's a heck of a quarterback I think he's been underappreciated to be honest with you but that you mentioned the depth and that's going to be the key for them when you're so top heavy the, the way they are, I mean, what do they have three of their players, Stafford, Donald, and Jalen Ramsey take up a ton of their cap room. And so you better be good filling in all those gaps.
And I think it's just too easy to say, Oh, well, Matt Stafford's there with John McBain. They're going to the Superbowl.
I don't, I'm not in that camp. I think, in fact, I think the 49ers are going to win the division no matter who plays quarterback, and I think it's going to be Jimmy Garoppolo.
It should be Jimmy Garoppolo. I think the 49ers will win that division.
I think the Rams are going to be struggling a little bit in that division. That NFC West will probably be the most competitive division in terms of there's not really a team that you can look at being like, all right, that's an easy out right there.
What about in the AFC? What's the team that's going to be the most disappointing? The Colts, I think. Normally I'm not bullish on the Titans because I think they're that team that's always playing that run-heavy offense and playing solid defense and you make the postseason, but you're not going to really make the true run because of the style of play.
But they're throwing the ball around a little bit more now, and I think that's going to change them. They have to rush the passer better to be a deep, deep playoff team.
But I think in that division, they're the better team. And most people, a lot of people pick the Colts.
And so I'm concerned about the Colts with Carson Wentz. Is he ready to take the next step? Who are the weapons? T.Y.
Hilton's down. I know Pittman's a good player, but they need more speed outside.
So the Colts are the team that's a little concerning to me. Okay.
What about another team that is getting obviously a lot of buzz? It feels like this is the first year where you can really say, like, the Browns, you know, they've had some preseason excitement in the past where people want to will them to being good. They are good.
They're a good football team. do you think that they will be able to replicate last year in terms of winning a playoff game you know going to the playoffs all these things like is this gonna because i i've i've i want the browns to be what good i'm rooting for baker mayfield i do think the odell thing is not talked about and very weird that like he was significantly better without Odell where what are your thoughts on the Browns I think the best team in the division I don't I don't think there's any doubt about that but again how do you handle expectations this is a team that hasn't had to handle right and so you don't know it's one of those unknowns and I'm a I'm a big believer in Kevin Stefanski.
I think he's a heck of a coach.
I think what he's done with that team, turning it around, is a heck of a job.
But now you have expectations.
It's one thing to take a bad team and make it better.
Now you have to take the good team and keep it there and make it even a little bit better.
And that's a challenge.
You mentioned Odell Beckham. Look, I'm never going to be in the camp saying, oh, they're better off not having Odell Beckham,
because I don't believe that.
He's a heck of a player.
It's just a matter of making it work. And I think Kevin Stefanski will make it work they're the best team in that division i don't know if they're good enough to get to the championship game i think they're just just a little bit off from doing that but they're going to be a tough tough team every single week what about team out west um i've actually got the chargers winning that division this year i put a future on them.
I like the Chargers a lot. I like their new head coach.
I like Herbert. I like their defense getting healthy.
I mean, it is the Chargers, so, you know, like you can set your watch that after, you know, the second week in October, they'll have some significant, whether it's an injury or just bad luck that happens to them. They had a lot of bad luck.
But I think that the Chargers are talented enough right now. I think their coaching is good enough.
And I really like the offensive coordinator that they've got, Lombardi, right? From the Saints, yeah. From the Saints.
So can you talk me out of the Chargers? Because I put a decent future down on them to win that division and for Herbert to win the MVP. I'll talk you out of it by saying the Chiefs are in that division.
Yep. Yeah, that's reason enough to talk you out of that.
Look, I'm with you. I think Herbert's a star in waiting.
I really do. I think he's special.
All these people saying he might have a sophomore slump. I don't buy it.
I think their offensive line is going to be significantly better. They haven't been good on the offensive line for a long time.
Phillip Rivers took a beating there. And then last year they struggled.
They're going to be good on offense. I'm with you on that.
The question becomes, where are they on defense? And, you know, getting Derwin James back will be big for that because he can erase tight ends in that division. You got to erase some tight ends.
So, yeah, I think they're going to push for a playoff spot. I don't think they're winning the division.
And I like Washington in week one, by the way. Yeah, I do too.
That's actually my mortal lock. I saw that.
Barstool Sports. That is your mortal lock.
That's your mortal lock. It's my mortal lock.
I'm also like, I'm kind of like laying a mattress down for my own brain on this one because I've already thought ahead to what I'm going to feel like the Monday after the Washington football team loses against the Chargers at home. And so right now I'm just like, you know what? I think that they're the best team in the AFC.
I think they're a sneaky good team. So maybe I'm just over-inflating them, protecting my own ego in advance when I get disappointed.
You know what's amazing? You're right about the Chargers, though. Something always happens.
Yeah, yeah. It always happens.
Yeah, them and the Falcons. They had the year where they didn't make the playoffs, where they were the number one offense and number one defense.
It's like, how is that possible? Well, even like going back falcons they had the year where they didn't make the playoffs where they were the number one offense and number one defense it's like how is that possible well even even like going back to when they had the fouls days they were they they went on the road and beat miami in an overtime game then they had to go play cincinnati in the freezing cold they couldn't throw the football which is what they did something always happens to the chargers yeah there's always some bad luck involved let me ask you though with the Chargers and your knowledge of how long you've been covering the NFL?
33 years.
Do you have a Hall of Fame vote?
I don't.
So are we getting you a Hall of Fame vote or are we getting you into the Hall of Fame?
We couldn't remember.
Will Brinson asked us to do that.
Will Brinson wants to get me into the Hall of Fame.
Okay, so bypass the vote and get you into the Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
Skip. Do not pass go.
I don't want $200. I used to want to have the vote.
You know the story of the vote, right? No, tell us. The vote used to go to the beat writer for the local market.
And when they were giving it out in Jacksonville, it should have gone to the newspaper, and I was the beat guy then. But I angered the organization so much including tom coughlin that they decided to give it to a tv guy instead and once you get it you keep it wow so the newspaper the newspaper in jacksonville has never had the hall of fame vote i think we need to write a wrong so pete prisco basically caused that you that's that's why you're 90% Italian Your hot temper got you
Banned from the NFL Hall of Fame votes
At the very least
You know what we'll do for you Pete?
At the very very minimum
We're going to get you one better than a Hall of Fame vote
We'll get you an MVP vote
How do you like that?
I have one of those
No you do?
No MVP
Oh exactly
Nickelodeon
Nickelodeon valuable player
And you know what?
Let's throw in
Let's throw a low man trophy vote in there
Thank you. MVP.
Oh, exactly. Nickelodeon, valuable player.
And, you know what? The MVP. Let's throw a low man trophy vote in there.
Sure. All right, you got one of those, too, now.
What's that? For the greatest fullback in college football every year. Oh, I like that.
Yeah. You know what I say about fullbacks? You know what I say about fullbacks? When you hand the ball to them, it's donate it down.
Yeah, I know. I've heard that joke before, Pete.
Yeah. That's good.
You don't like that. That's good.
Donate it down. I don't.
I think that if you give a fullback a ball, you the ball to him it's donated down yeah i know i've heard that joke before pete yeah it's good you don't like that no i don't donate it down i don't i think that if you give a fullback a ball you ask him to get two yards he'll get you three if you ask him to get you five yards he'll get you three that's consistency yeah that's the magic man that's the toby that's what i used to call toby gerhardt the magic man yeah he turned a 20 yard run into a three yard run and a three yard run into a three. All right.
So, oh, I had a question about the Chargers. So they did switch, obviously, coaching staffs.
We are believers in Brandon Staley. We had him on.
He was fantastic. We'll have him on again.
My question, though, is it's rare that you have a quarterback like Justin Herbert who was so good his rookie year and then have the entire coaching staff change. Is there, like from your covering of the league, from your understanding of how this works, are you worried at all about that change, even though it could be a change for the positive? But are you worried about having him, you know, he's got to learn new stuff.
He's got to learn, you know, to work with another signal caller, like all these things. Does that worry you at all? No.
Okay. You either have it or you don't.
Okay. There it is.
I like that. I'm a big believer in that.
You either have it or you don't. It's like everybody always says, well, Aaron Rodgers got the watch for a couple years before he played, and it really helped make him a better quarterback.
No, it didn't. You either have it or you don't.
Okay. So I totally agree with you.
Mark Schlereth actually changed our mind about that a few years ago.
He said that exact same thing.
He's like, if he's the guy, he's the guy.
It doesn't really matter. I used to believe that if you get beat up your rookie year,
you start looking at the pass rush.
It's like, no, if you start looking at the pass rush,
you were just never going to be that guy anyway.
Correct.
So my question then is, my Bears, Justin Fields, do you think it's egregious that he is not starting yes okay thank you thank you i would start i would you gotta get on with it right you have to find out the sooner you find out if that guy's the guy and if he isn't the quicker you get to the next guy and not only that i know that a lot of the counter argument is is if Justin Fields is a franchise guy and he has, let's say, a 15-year career in the NFL, Andy Dalton starting the first three games is not going to matter in the long term, which is correct. But I think it does how the NFL is set up now.
I think that window where you have a guy who could be special on a rookie pay grade matters a lot for building a team. You have a finite window where you can win with a roster around him and not have to pay him a ton of money.
So that's why you start him right away. Look, every quarterback I've ever talked to said, I learned more playing a half of a regular season game than I did watching an entire year if they watched it.
I mean, it's just this. So, yes, play those.
I always say I play the kid. Now, in San Francisco, I'm a little different because I think that team's ready to win and win big this year.
So play Jimmy Garoppolo right away because I don't think Trey Lance is ready from throwing the football standpoint yet. It's going to take him a little time.
And he's also a different case in that he played one game last year. He played at a different level of college football.
Correct. So it does change things a little bit.
Yeah, right. The Bears aren't supposed to be good, so get on with just the field and play them.
I actually am very, very down on them. I think they're going to be very, very bad.
They're going to cover Monday night, though. I don't know how they score 13 points.
They're going to cover Monday night. Okay.
All right. I like that confidence.
What do you think about what's going on in New Orleans this year? Jameis Winston. Are you a believer? Are you a hater? No, I like Jameis Winston.
There we go. I just think one of Jameis Winston's things is he's got to cut down on his interceptions.
Period. He can't be.
That's why we have him on, folks. He watches the tape, guys.
Nothing gets by you. Every single one of the coaches has told me, they tell him, look, James, you can't be a hero on every play.
Yes, you can. Check down is okay.
You can't be a hero on every play. And it still hasn't gone through.
Well, Sean Payton said, my quarterback, he told me, he said, my quarterbacks don't throw interceptions. So there's a dynamic there to see who wins out.
Is it Sean Payton cuts down on interceptions or is Jameis still going to be the hero? So something's got to give. Yeah.
So what's the offense going to look like without Drew Brees? Because we've only seen Sean Payton and Drew Brees. They've been married for the last, what, like 15 years down there? It'll be interesting.
What's the offense going to look like in terms of how are they going to use Kamara? How are they going to use Jameis? What's going to be different about the offense this year when you compare it to what it's been like? Well, last year, Drew Brees wasn't that good either. No, he's terrible.
Yeah, so they're going to be able to drive the ball. You're going to see more shots down the field.
I think Callaway's going to hit some big shots down the field in the passing game. You're going to use the tight ends a lot.
If you go back and look at his history, when he didn't have wide receivers, he used the tight ends in the running back. So Kamara's going to have a monster year.
I think they should give him more carries. I don't think they give him enough carries.
And that's one of the things that Sean Payton's always said is, like, we want to keep him fresh in December. But this team, you might need to give him more carries early because they might not be around come December.
You know what I mean? They might not be playing meaningful games. All right, so I like this.
This is why we have Pete on because we didn't actually plan anything because you are a recurring guest and we consider you a friend, but we are kind of jumping around and hitting almost everything I want to hit. Let's jump to Seattle.
You are a famous, known Russell Wilson hater. Wrong.
Yes, right. now, you're the guy who, like if Russell Wilson makes an incredible play, Pete then goes, he left a clean pocket and gets like really upset about it.
That is correct. Am I not wrong? I've done that.
Yep, many times. I do that with all quarterbacks.
Now, I liked Russell Wilson. Obviously, when he played at Wisconsin, I think he's an awesome player.
I love watching him play when he gets going. But I think it's fair, and even Seattle fans would agree on this, he has faded the last couple of seasons down the stretch, and there has been some weird moments in that loss against the Rams this year.
In the playoffs, he was very, very bad. So what's the issue and what's the fix for Seattle and Russell Wilson?
Okay. First off, I wasn't a hater.
I was a critic.
And the reason I was a critic was because they won with the top scoring
defense in the league for straight years for the only other team that did
that was the fifties Browns, which was a dynasty.
That's why they won those super bowls and they ran the ball. Now, as they've morphed into a team that doesn't have a great defense, he's actually become a significantly better quarterback in my eyes.
I think he's better. And I think part of the problem is style.
You have Lockett and Metcalf outside and you have a quarterback who plays better free, loose and free, thrown on early downs. And what what does Pete Carroll want to do he wants to run the ball and I think that's where the problem is with Russell Wilson I think Russell Wilson to the point if he plays up tempo loose and free is a much better quarterback they don't want to let him do that because they still think they're a defensive team that can run the ball and that's the problem right there okay all right your problem is that you love Russell Wilson too much now.
Yeah. You're so right about him.
He's come around in a big way. Yeah, because he listens to you.
You know it. If these guys all listen to me, they'd be better players.
Why don't you give him an MVP vote, though? Because you could actually have the – like last year, you should have given him an MVP vote so that way the story on Sunday Night Football when Chris Collinsworth is like, you know, he's never had an MVP vote though because you could actually have like last year you should have given him an MVP vote so that way the story on Sunday Night Football when Chris Collinsworth is like you know he's never had an MVP vote they could be like you know he's only had one MVP vote it was Pete Prisco no I got I would after eight games he probably was the MVP last you could say you have integrity like that's a great you could get a lot of shine from that yeah I won't do that this year I might though I might, though. Give me some ideas halfway through the season.
I might change it for you. Okay, Mitch Trubisky.
Best backup in the league. Oh.
Okay, best, the best. He looked good.
He looked really good. And I'm not just talking about the scheme that they had him in, which was a lot different, obviously, on the Bills under looked like a good quarterback mechanically yeah but you know there's some guys that when they're playing with as the starter the pressure is too much for him and then when they play as the backup there's no pressure and he plays better but so my big like issue with ryan pace the gm is i know that mitch trubisky had to they had to move on from him right because matt nagy clearly didn't trust him we watched it in that in that playoff game andy dalton is not better than mitch trubisky as we currently yes he is no he's not right this second right this second you think andy dalton's a better starter than mitch i disagree no watch the tape i do watch the tape because Watch the tape.
Because he's a better player. Do you think Andy Dalton is still a competent starter in the NFL? Nice guy.
He's a serviceable starter. Serviceable's not competent.
Yeah, he's competent for a couple games. I don't think you can win consistently with him over the long haul.
He's serviceable for 10. He's competent for 2.
Yeah, I mean, he's better than Mitch Trubisky. I disagree.
Pete, I got a question about comeback player of the year. Do you get a vote on that too? I don't know if we vote.
I think we do, yeah. What do you have to come back from? Can you just, like, can you come back from laser eye surgery? Can you come back from, like, obviously the ACL? That would be a comeback.
Can you come back from just sucking last year? What are the rules? There are no rules, I don't think, but you've got to be able to come back. I think mostly it's coming back from an illness.
I mean, Eric Berry came back from an illness a couple years ago and won. Yeah.
I mean, you're going into the deep, dark places. Like, if somebody had a car wreck and they came back, yeah, they'd probably win the award.
So, like, Ben Roethlisberger, for example, I bet you he's really pissed off that he didn't win last year when Alex Jones won it because this was like Ben – Alex Smith. Sorry, Alex Jones.
No, he did not win comeback player of the year. Not yet.
But no, when Alex Smith obviously had the gruesome leg injury, Ben Roethlisberger was probably like, this is my year that I'll come back because I had the elbow surgery that no doctor had ever seen before. But he didn't play well enough.
That's what I'm saying. Could he win this year from coming back from not winning the comeback player? Yes.
No. Dak Prescott's going to win it this year.
That's almost a lock. So, okay.
Well, that dubs tails nicely to what I was going to ask you with Dak. Let's just say hypothetically the Dallas Cowboys offense stays 100% healthy this year okay okay so all their guys play an entire season are they going to win the NFC beast or is it going to be somebody else Washington's winning it even if Dallas's offense stays totally healthy yeah because they have still have defensive problems what's I think that yeah what what's their deal on defense why do they have like nine lineback I mean, yeah, well, they paid Jalen Smith, so they have to keep them.
They drafted Micah Parsons. They have Vander Esch.
Like, they – I don't know. Then they got Keanu Neal's playing linebacker.
He's actually playing. Can you explain that? It might be Parsons and Keanu Neal on the field more than the other two guys.
Can you explain why they are going into this season with what feels like way too many linebackers I don't I don't understand it I just I mean well they weren't happy with Jalen Smith and Vander Esch got hurt last year remember so that's why they drafted Parsons I wouldn't have drafted Parsons I would and he's been very good but I would have drafted another position corner something like that because I think they need a pass rusher I think you you're right they have too many linebackers but jalen smith they made the mistake of paying them and then he didn't play that well yeah uh daniel jones since we're in the nfc beast daniel jones buying or selling i think the situation's going to make me a seller because i is unless his line can somehow get better he's going to take a lot of shots yeah i mean you know they've been bad on the front up front they have to be better up front what um do you think joe judge like he feels kind of like one of those coaches that if things go bad this year everyone's going to be like fuck this guy because he makes us run laps and we're professionals yeah there's a there's a fine line there that when if you push too hard you're not winning, it's going to go left. Are you worried about Urban in that respect? Yes.
Because he definitely feels like a guy who's going to keep doing his method even if they're not good. Yes, I worry about Urban in a lot of ways because how does he handle losing? Because he's going to lose.
He's never lost before. Right.
I mean, you think about it. I heard he was upset after the preseason loss.
Oh, God. I love it.
How much Papa John did he eat? He probably was like, fuck, we're going to drop to 10th in the rankings. So you can't – the NFL, you lose a game, you got to get over that quickly because you're playing, you know, in college you lost a game, your season's over.
But in the NFL, you lose a game, you're not done. You got to keep playing.
There's a ton of football left to play. And I think that's the mentality he's going to have to get at us.
What about other first-year coaches? Which one do you think is going to be the best? Which one do you think is going to be the worst? You know, I think Dan Campbell's actually going to be a good coach. It's not going to happen yeah i i think he's he's gonna be one of those guys that the players play for respect and believe in i i really think he's gonna be a heck of a coach um you know the rest of those guys i'm trying to think off the top of my head who i sirianni is who i'm kind of dancing around you know what everybody killed him because of his press conference and all.
And I don't know Nick, but people I do know that know him very well say he's a grinder and he's a good coach. Coach.
And so we'll see. Coach Sirianni.
But his press conference was terrible. It was like he was like, you know, an interrogation or something.
Yeah. It was awful.
Yeah. What about, so who's the first coach fired this year? Never talk about another man's job.
They have families. Families.
They got the private school to another private school. Once you're making $7 million a year to coach or $5 million a year to coach a football team, it's open season.
That would be the joke, Pete. Thank you.
I know. I get it.
I don't think you do. No, I get it.
I get it. Listen, they got it.
I think that's the pervert coming out. I don't think you do.
They got three kids at Georgetown.
Okay.
So he's got to come from somewhere.
For a guy with that mustache,
calling people perverts is pretty interesting.
Hey, I know one, right?
You got to be one to know one.
Who's the first coach to get fired?
Wow.
That's a good question.
I mean, how about we just say some names? Yeah, like there's names. Well, it's got to be someone who's obviously not on their rookie deal Correct So it can't be Texans are bad Lions are bad, they're not getting fired The Jets are bad, they're not getting fired The Jaguars are bad, they're not getting fired Yeah, Joe Judge I think is safe in year two To not get fired during the season They don't like to fire fire people at the Giants.
Right. Yeah.
What about the Bengals? Zach Taylor. I don't think that they care about Zach.
I think he's okay. No, I think he's okay for this year.
Ooh, let me throw one out there for you. What about Cliff Kingsbury? Hot seat.
Yeah. Like, if the Cardinals stumble out of the gate here, I feel like that could happen.
He's got to win year for sure yes if they're if they're talented and if they're you know four and seven at one point he could be in big trouble what about vic fangio another one if he's if he's struggling he's in trouble let me particularly since that quarterback was his pick by the way yeah but let me ask you this about vic fangio because he's obviously, I would make the argument that he's the best defensive coordinator in the NFL right now. If he was a defensive coordinator, not a head coach, what he did, what he's done everywhere.
He did it at San Francisco, he did it for Stanford, he did it for the Bears, like he's been everywhere, done it. What is the, why does a guy who is that good at his job as defensive coordinator struggle as a head coach? Because it's the game.
It's managed the people. You got to coach your coaches and manage the players.
And it's different when you have a room full of, you know, half the team. It's different than having the entire team.
And when you have all the coaches, it's different than having your staff on the defense. It's just that it becomes a bigger job.
And you got to deal to deal with all the distractions. And this guy didn't come to practice on time because he had to go pick up his wife.
You know, all the crap you have to deal with. And so that's why I think some guys handle it better and other guys don't.
And you've seen it. Guys are just coaches, and they can't handle all this stuff on the outside.
And whether Vick's that guy or not, we'll know after this year. picked i'm a big believer that he picked teddy bridgewater over drew lock because he thinks his defense is going to be that dominant and he just wants him to play it safe rather than take the shots down the field which if his defense is if you know when his defense is rolling that is how they can win like they are he has been part of some really really good defenses so i i that defense is going to going to be really good, buddy.
So there you go. I'm bullish on the Broncos' defense.
So they can win games with 17 points. If Vic Fangio's got his defense rolling, they can win games like that.
Yeah, but – okay, I get it. But your floor is probably a little bit higher, but your ceiling's not as high.
I think if they had picked Locke, they had a chance to be – you know, if he's what he can't flash at times, then you have a chance to be a much better team and maybe go deeper to the postseason. You might make the postseason this year, but can you win consistently with that? The counterargument would be if you put Locke in there and your defense is as good as you think it is, you're going to lose games that you should absolutely win with Drew Locke making mistakes.
But again, if your defense is that good and you make a mistake, then you're going to stop them and hold them to a field goal yeah but no but if you if your defense is like out of this world good right and you lose the game because drew lock through three interceptions that kills you because you're like our defense put together a game that should absolutely win and we just weren't able to do like well the other side of that is if your defense is that great and you play conservative offensive football and you end up with seven points and you lose 10 seven it's the that's the other side don't make me break out the expected points per drive chart because like we're talking if you throw turnovers in your like inside your own 30 that's probably going to translate to more points than if you drive to the 30 then punt well since every every defense is exactly the same in the nfl you're being sarcastic whoa what was that were you just being just like it's just like because we always get these analytics guys now they come out and they say all right you know this and i you know tony khan who is a owns an analytics company is you know the son of the owner of jackson i said to him i said when you guys start doing analytics based on inches instead of yards then come because when the ball's over the two yard line and okay let's just say you're inside the two but you're not at the one what's it say on the stat sheet uh don't hand the ball to marshall lynch well that's that's that's what it says in this but what's it say seriously it says fourth and fourth and one right right so if you're inside the one on the inch line what's it say on the stat sheet fourth and one so it's not the same thing yeah you're right it's a game of inches good point they're all around us right yeah so that you can't not and plus game flow matters in stats and they don't take that into account.
Game flow.
I agree.
If you're in a 45, 40, if you're in a 45, 41 game, it's, and you're on fourth and three, it's easier to go for it than if it's 10, seven.
Okay.
I agree with that.
But something that I think is also very underrated when you're talking about like analytics and people trying to take the human element out of a game
is complementary football, which then goes back to what we're talking about with the Broncos.
I think that if you have a great defense, complementary football-wise,
you don't want an offense that's going to turn the ball over
because then it starts to take away from the defense and they lose some of their juice,
whereas if you have an offense that can maybe hold the ball for a while manufacture points maybe not be electric I think that's complimentary football that's playing scare I don't like your Teddy Bridgewater hate no I like Teddy it doesn't sound like you do I just think Locke has a chance to drive the ball down the field more and also also throw a lot of picks. What was he, seven touchdowns and two picks down the stretch last year? I mean, that's okay.
I think it was something like that. Garbage time? Well, no.
He actually played much better down the street, and he looked good in the preseason. He looked really good in the preseason.
Drew Locke looked really good in the preseason. Look at it.
Big Cat, what were they? It was like seven and two. I'm looking'm looking it up i'm looking it i like teddy bridgewater because you can always count him to cover the spread against when he's an underdog i think he covers what like 60 of the time yeah 68 of the time something like that drew lock down the stretch so last year he threw 15 touchdowns 16 interceptions you're wrong pete he went he he he He had a clean game two touchdowns zero interception against the uh raiders in week 16 but in week 15 he threw two picks okay zero touchdowns wasn't there a three touchdown game he had a four touchdown game against carolina but i mean yeah okay so what was the final four games what were the numbers uh the final, well, if you want to go final five games, he was 2-4-7-9, 9-4.
See, that's not bad. It's not bad, but, again, you look at the games, they lost a three-point game to the Chargers where he threw two picks and no touchdowns.
They lost a six-point game to the Chiefs where he threw two picks. So you lost two games because of – like, I guess we're just saying the same thing.
I mean, he can win a bunch of games and lose a bunch of games. I like to walk a little bit too because when I met him at the senior bowl one year, I said, hey, I said, you know, they're going to ping you on your small hands, you know.
And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is on camera.
He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he walked away and he turned back and he goes dan marino had small hands too you know oh so that's how all right so now you've i like that because i think that you um you know you get one piece of information and you carry it with you forever i like no i just like i like a guy who has an attitude yeah he's got moxie he's the moxie he is the moxiest yeah i just, yeah.
I just looked it up. Teddy Bridgewater, 35-13-1 against the spread.
As an underdog.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
No, that's as a starter.
Oh, as a starter.
That's as a starter.
I love it.
I love it.
That's impressive.
Pretty good.
I have one last question for you, Pete.
This has been great.
Tell me how it goes wrong for the Packers.
I don't want to hear how it goes right.
I want to hear how it goes wrong.
The defense doesn't get any better. Okay.
I like that. And do you think that will happen? No.
They're going to be good again. We'll cut that part.
You hate the Packers. I hate the Packers.
They're going to dominate. The NFC North is actually the most...
I'm trying to think. I'm going through all the divisions in my head.
No, the Vikings will be better than you think they are. You think so?
But I think the Packers are the most shocking result that could happen in the regular season in the NFL is the Packers not winning the North.
Yes, I would agree with that.
Yes.
Because they'll win the North,
but the Vikings are going to be better than you think they are.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think so.
I do. I think defensively they're going to be much better than they were a year ago.
They won't win the game. Don't you get the vibes from Mike Zimmer that he's kind of sick of his team.
They all are sick of Kirk Cousins. Not just Kirk Cousins.
I feel like Mike Zimmer is walking into work and just being like, I don't want to be here anymore. I don't like these guys.
He's excited about the defense, man.
I'm telling you.
Justin Jefferson is going to be the best receiver in the league by the end of the year.
Kellen Mond, I think, will start a game by the end of the year.
No.
Yep.
All right.
We'll bet.
We'll bet a stake on it.
No, no.
Okay.
Barring injury, though.
No.
No.
Yeah.
No, I get injury.
No.
Yes, I get injury.
What the fuck is that?
Okay.
I guess Kellen Mond going to start a game because he's taking over for performance reasons? No, I get both. I get if Kirk Cousins gets hurt.
Yeah, no, no. I get Kirk Cousins.
I get hurt all the time. Kirk Cousins' ankle isn't performing anymore.
I get both. No, okay.
What if he went out for COVID? Well, that's his fault. Okay.
Yeah. But I'm not giving you that one either.
So, no, Kellen Mond plays because Kirk Cousins isn't playing well enough, you win the bet. If Kellen Mond doesn't play because if he plays because of injury or something, then you don't win.
Kirk Cousins has started 16, 16, 16, 16, 15, and 16 games. Come on.
Make the bet with the injury clause. No! Don't do this.
You were saying it for performance reasons. No, I was just saying it.
I was just saying it. Alright, fine.
I'll fucking make the bet. I don't care.
I think Kirk Cousins sticks. Do you think Kellen Mond plays for performance reasons this year? Yes.
I'll just say yes. There you go.
Alright. Then let's bet on that.
Stake. St steak steak and indie uh Billy had one last question for you IP quick quick question using your Trevor Lawrence uh thinking on playing from behind do you think that Zach Wilson has a chance of being rookie of the year with the Jets yes particularly with their young corners I do yes they're gonna play from behind as well okay okay Okay.
Okay. I like it.
What did you think about Philly deciding to start BOFA? What? What did you think about Philly deciding to start BOFA? BOFA? Yeah, BOFA D's nuts. Gosh, you guys are so good.
Do you get the joke? Do you have two? Do you still have two? You know, you get a little older, sometimes they take one.
Yeah.
Got your ass.
Fun, Pete.
Got your ass.
Love it, Pete.
You got me.
You got me.
Yeah, we got you.
Say hi to Candace for me, okay?
You're not getting me on that one either.
How about Mike Hunt?
Yeah, you know him? Yeah, I know Mike Hunt.'m like all right pete thank you it's always fun go check him out at cbs sports one of our favorite how simon's kid doing over here huh is he still your producer simon oh uh jake jake marsh oh yes yeah we forgot about that yeah we met him we. Yeah.
He seems like the kind of guy that would get along real well with you.
Yeah.
Just two South Florida guys.
Yeah, of course.
They're Jets fans, though.
I grew up a Giants fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
All right.
Pete, are you – wait, is it – would you rather have Ed Sheeran
or Imagine Dragons playing the opening night?
Imagine Dragons. Imagine dragging these nuts on your forehead.
Walked into it again. They're probably hanging by your ankles, by the way.
Got your ass. All right, Pete.
See ya. See ya, Pete.
See ya, guys. Thank you, Pete.
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FireFest of the Week to wrap it up. Remember, no guests on Mondays in the football season, so we can just talk football.
We can talk ball.
We'll be taping after everything, so get excited.
Fire Fest of the week.
Hank.
My Fire Fest.
I was trying to remember this, Big Cat.
I couldn't tell if you were the one that put me onto the fan app.
Yeah.
Okay, you were.
So I need white noise to sleep.
My AC in my old apartment used to blast, and it was enough noise and everything.
Cold came in.
Didn't need a fan.
I bought a fan for my new apartment because the AC doesn't.
It comes through, but you don't hear it.
I need to hear it.
I can't just sleep with my own thoughts.
Otherwise, I don't sleep.
Yeah, torture.
So I bought a fan, broke the fan.
I don't know how.
I literally don't know how.
All of a sudden, it just came unhinged, still going and like just it's like a hose basically like the head of the fan came off and was just going crazy around my apartment what and then i tried shattered in the middle of the night it didn't shatter it just like fell off and then but was still imagine a hose like imagine a hose yeah because it's got a motor so it's moving around your apartment so it was still plugged in and it was still just like when you woke up in the middle of the night with this yeah And I had to like, I was like, imagine a hose. Like, imagine a hose when you drop it.
Yeah, because it's got a motor, so it's moving around your apartment. So it was still plugged in, and it was still just, like, spinning around.
And you woke up in the middle of the night with this? Yeah, and I had to, like, I was like, oh, and I had to turn it off. And then I...
This is incredible. I'm just trying to think, like, the different steps that my brain would go through, trying to figure out what was happening when I've got a fan tap dancing around my bedroom.
Also, add to the fact that we're not talking about a regular person getting woken up. We're talking hank who he probably wanted to fist fight the fan are you sure so that's the fire best i'm pretty sure in my what you just described i think i broke the fan trying to like mash it back together because the next day i was like all right i'm gonna fix this fan it's broken like it's just completely broken uh hank could win the heavyweight championship of the world if you just got him to go in the ring right after he woke up yeah you just like you had him sleep next to the ring just tapped him on the shoulder and just like all right fight time he'd go in and just smash anyone yeah yeah i think i mean you guys like my i remember my sister which used to have to wake me up for school and like that was like we had you know years of turmoil because i would just flip out on her um but yeah so then i just i but i did have the fan app i actually paid for the upgraded one because i added a little music no ads a little music um but i have to get another fan i just bought this one like two weeks ago yeah that sucks good news is summer's over so but it's.
But it's not even about... Yeah, it's the sound.
It's the sound. Yeah, it's the sound.
It's just the sound. And it's nice to not have to use your phone for it.
Right, because I did that. I did that.
And the first night, I was like, once I went back, realized the fan was broken, turned on the fan app, and then woke up, my phone was dead. Right, right.
Why don't you try to just go on a YouTube channel?
I bet you if you just search fan noise on YouTube, you can just blast that. But the fan app has it all.
Right.
The fan app has it all.
I also like the cool air.
Yeah.
And noise.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I like the real fan.
The real fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Preferably.
Or if the AC does enough, like the AC is on in my room, but it's not that cold and it's
not, the noise isn't coming through.
The fan app is for the road. An actual old schoolschool fan is for at home.
Right. Yep.
Okay. I really wish that you had had some sort of surveillance video of your room.
I would love to see it. I know you would like that.
Maybe some mirrors on the ceiling, too, right, PFT? It would have been an all-time hilarious baseball injury. That's a middle reliever.
Hurt my fingers or something. Fights his fan in the middle of the night.
Like, wait, he fought a fan? No, no, no. He fought his fan.
His fan. He was trying to catch his fan because it was on the loose.
He had a rogue fan. All right.
Yours, PFT. I've been thinking about time.
I've been thinking about time too much. Whoa.
Oh, boy. It's fucking me up.
Stop. You know what I thought about today? Yeah, we're almost 40.
Going back in time seven years. Dude, stop.
I know you don't like age. That's a million times worse than the one I had.
We're going to be 37 this January. Shut up.
And that's basically 40? We're 40. Yeah, I know.
I think about it all the time. But I'm okay with that.
My back hurts. I've embraced it.
You're a man. I am.
I've embraced it. I'm a man.
I'm a man. You're still 28.
You got time. But I've been thinking about time.
It fucks me up. Even the 40 thing is bad, obviously.
But thinking I did one of those, like, oh, this date is closer to that date than this date is right now. So the NFL started in 1920, right? That's when week one of the first nfl season was that's closer to the life of thomas jefferson than it is to today whoa damn it fucked me up that is fucked up i had one and you probably had the same one where it's uh this fall the i still have friends that i met freshman year in college this fall is officially I've known them for more than half my life.
Yeah, I've had that. It's nuts.
I was talking to Big Cat about this the other week, but me and Big Cat have been, because we started the same year at Barstool, we've been doing part of my take for more years than we've worked at Barstool before that, which is crazy. Yeah.
Because when we started part of my take, it had already felt like we had been doing Barstool for so long. It'll be six years in March.
Yeah. Whew.
I've been working for as long as Billy's been alive. Yeah.
Whoa. Jesus.
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. It's fucked up.
It's tough in these content minds. I don't know if that's true
It's true
Like working as a person
Like any job
So you dropped out of high school
How old are you Billy?
22
So when I was 14
Yeah well yeah
That still counts as being a high school kid
I've had jobs
I've been in the workforce
You were a full-time student for four years. Yeah, full-time in the workforce.
It has not been that long. I was a student.
I attended high school and college, but I've been in the workforce. Yeah.
All right. Let's not think about this shit anymore.
My Firefest of the week is I'm jumping out of, I think, a helicopter now for arizona bowl and i got the text message from jen simons which i think was confusing to some people it was the second person in the tandem jump has to be under 220 pounds meaning me the first person is the person who's like the instructor or whatever so i have to get under 220 pounds by the end of the year to not die what are we coming in in at these days? Fully naked, first thing in the morning, 231-ish. Oh, you can do that easy.
But I'm walking around more at like 235, 6, 7, 8, 40. Just wear a black shirt.
Yeah, just wear a black shirt to the way. Someone said just have a black parachute.
You'll be fine. Yeah.
But yeah, no, I got to do it is I gotta do it. I gotta figure out a way to get under 220.
Billy looking at you. Although you've already failed Ben Mintz, so forget it.
No, I haven't. No, we're working out right after this.
I saw Ben Mintz. He's not fat.
He's been losing weight. He's actually lost weight since we started.
I would say that if you're looking for somebody that can make you lose a lot of muscle mass, Billy's your guy. Yeah.
Okay, I tried
to show this last night. How many vaccines do I
need to get? I know a lady, Big Cat.
Ooh. Well, I don't want to take
your lady. You guys can share.
Yeah, we can.
Eskimo boxer. All right.
Billy, you're a fire fest.
Or not Jake.
You see what I did there?
I have two. One of them was, I was at a last week, and they just didn't have Coors Light.
Like, how am I supposed to enjoy myself if there's no Coors Light? No, I'd leave it. Order a competitor, throw the bottle on the ground, and walk out.
That's what I would have done. That's still giving money to the competitor.
Burn the bar down to the ground. Yeah.
Peaky blinders. With everyone in it.
And my second one's kind of like a future anxiety thing Sunday the return of you guys just bash me for anything Andrew Siciliano says I'm making a resolution this year I'm going to be nice to Andrew Siciliano because he's a nice guy I'm giving a clean slate clean slate I'm going clean slate to Sicil. I will take all the hate that PFT had, and I will double my hate for Andrews Siliano.
Am I screwed on Sunday? Oh, yeah. I just said I'm going to take his hate and double it.
So that's my Fyre Fest just worrying about what you guys are going to say to me. Hold on.
My Fyre Fest is that I just remembered the reason my sleeper sucked so bad, because I didn't have anything written down, but I had it mentally, and I forgot to say it. We got another Larry.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I meant to mention that in Fancy Fuck Boys. That's okay.
And I just came up with chili out of nowhere. We'll debut him on Monday, right? On Monday's show.
I'll make a Monday night pick this Monday, and then we'll have t-shirts and shit, and he'll start making picks, whatever, five a week going forward. We almost...
Oh, Big Fire Fest. It's a billyfish.
Thank you for reminding me, Jake. I forgot.
I completely forgot what channel the Red Zone channel is. I think it's 702 or 703.
No, but I have a different package than you. Oh, DirecTV is 703, I think.
Yeah, I've got Spectre. I'm so out of sorts.
Usually I take... I go like the week before NFL season starts.
This is why we need a Red Zone for the preseason, because now I'm panicking, because I know that I'm going to forget about it. I'm going to sit down with like 10 minutes left and yeah i'll get it there on time but i'm going to miss the countdown clock and that first countdown clock of the season is awesome when it is agreed so i gotta somebody remind me jake can you set a reminder to remind me on saturday to do a red zone dry run yes at 12 50 p.m make sure do you want me to text you at that time? Yes.
I actually have another Firefest, too.
What do you got?
Because I'm such a Sox head, I've been watching the Red Sox games, and every time, I'm scared to get my bill.
Every time I turn my TV on, turn it off, if I go to the Extra Innings channel, you know
what I'm about to say?
Yep, yep.
It doesn't...
You have to reorder it.
Yes, yes, yes.
I've done that like 20 times in the past two weeks. Yep.
Every single time, it's like, you can't watch, you have to order a subscription. You're going to be in a fight.
I've had this happen. So they're going to charge me? They have to see that.
I did it like three times, I want to say. If that's the case, I paid for like legitimately $400 worth of MLBX ratings.
Price of fandom. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's seam heads like us. You got to show up for what you got.
You got to do it. All right, Billy, wrap us up.
I was going to sleep one night. I saw a bunch of sirens.
Well, I saw the lights. And you just ran out to help? No, I looked down.
No, I looked down. You are Dwight Shrew.
No, I looked down the street, and I saw like seven or eight cop cars all at one intersection pulled over, and couldn't figure out what was going on okay so did you go ask no because it was too late and i was in my boxers and i really wanted to know what was going on because it looked like a lot of activity i'm new to the neighborhood so i don't didn't have anyone to ask or anything so your fire fest is something i literally live a block you. Did you know what happened? So it might have been, I might have been there.
I don't know.
Wait, actually?
No.
I'm fine with you.
Have you ever citizen arrested someone?
No, but I'd like to.
Yeah, I know you would.
You absolutely are looking for it.
Billy, when you were a kid and you got left home alone, did you set up traps throughout
your house in hope that burglars would break in? No, but I'd lock all the windows and doors. Pussy.
Be ready. What kind of guy? What kind of kid are you? You'd lock all the doors? Yeah, I mean, that's an all-time scare moment is a kid being like, uh-oh.
What? Also, I just realized this book has been on the table the whole time, which will be a teaser for upcoming interviews. So subscribe to the YouTube.
Yeah, subscribe to the YouTube. And we're going to get to 300.
I just realized right now. And PFD is going to pop off those glasses, and we're going to see his eyes, his beautiful eyes.
My freak eyes. Yeah.
Yeah, whoops. That was our mistake.
So yeah, great interview coming next week. We're like actually a really, really good one.
an hour long so if you're listening if you go subscribe to youtube anyone who's listening right now go subscribe to youtube please so pft can take off his glasses and so you can see who the interview is also other fire fest couldn't get piranha in time for the yeah that's brutal piranha would have been good in theory. Do you have any notes? Very difficult.
Not really. 87.
99. Oh no, 97.
89. 18.
66. Bobby G.
No, I try again He just fucks up Oh, breaking moves T.J. Watt just signed a $112 million extension Whoa Let's go Steelers big 13 Yikes That's pretty much the worst number to get before an entire gambling NFL season Friday It my favorite number.
Of course. I was born on Friday the 13th.
Columbus thought manatees were mermaids.
A blight on society.
Billy born on Friday the 13th.
Love you guys.
I'm talking away.
I don't know what I'm to say.
I'm saved anyway.
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