Logic The Rapper, Deion Sanders & Mt Rushmore Of Animals We Want To See Fight

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Speaker 5 On today's part in my take, we have a two-fer for the people. We have Deion Sanders off his big win.
Jackson State home opener and also talking about Gilly getting a 15-yard penalty on the sideline.

Speaker 5 And then we have Logic, the rapper, awesome interview with him. He's got a new book out.
Go check it out.

Speaker 5 We have Mount Rushmore, the finale of Mount Rushmore season. We let Billy decide the topic, so just wait for that because it's very Billy and it's going to be very good.

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Speaker 5 Welcome to Pardon My Take, presented by Dave and Busters, the greatest place in the world to watch games this fall. Today is Wednesday, September 8th, and we're back, baby.
That's it. We're back.

Speaker 5 Two days in a row. I don't know how Mike and Mike did it every day for all of these years, big cat.

Speaker 5 We were just here.

Speaker 5 So not a lot has happened since we were last here, other than

Speaker 5 the excitement of actually getting into post-Labor Day. Like this is truly the season.

Speaker 5 It feels good. It feels good.
Like summer's over. Sorry.
Sorry. Anyone who says summer lasts past Labor Day is a loser.
We're so fucking pissed. Summer's over.
We're so fucking pissed. That's right.

Speaker 5 No, it should. It technically lasts to like the 21st.
But if you're really going out there and like hitting the lake in late September, dude, you catch me in the Hamptons week one of the NFL season.

Speaker 5 No, thank you. Nope.
Nope. I'm done wearing white.
Yep. Same with me.
My booty won't be popping.

Speaker 8 I think this is a sign of, you know, me growing up and my age, but as, you know, the vacation guy, the summer guy, this is one of the first years where I'm like excited that the summer's over and I'm excited for the fall to happen.

Speaker 5 Whoa.

Speaker 5 Hank is, by the way, I think people have picked up on some of the clues, but Hank is definitely going through his quarterlife crisis and it's great.

Speaker 5 He's like got a trainer. He's working on his golf game.
Wait, quarterly. That would say that's more breakup related, but

Speaker 5 that's fine. Yeah, quarterlife.
But quarterlife is right around when everyone's like, oh, okay. But that the time period between 26 and 29, everyone goes through a moment where they're like, wait, so

Speaker 5 what's the deal here? Time to grow up, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's when I first switched to PPR, fantasy football.
Exactly. It was a big point.
You never, never look back. Huge.

Speaker 5 Wouldn't Hank live till like 120? Yeah, I was going to say, doing the math on that, Hank is basically like a Galapagos sea tortoise. Yes.
Well, quarter life, I mean, you just say quarter life.

Speaker 5 I mean, 100. 100? You can live to 100.
Yeah, fuck yeah. It's also.
He's got a trainer. Yeah.
How's she doing? Dude, they don't know how long we're going to live.

Speaker 8 It's a HIPAA violation that I told you guys something off the air and you've just blown up my spot every show. I don't appreciate it whatsoever.

Speaker 5 I love this, though. They don't know how long we're gonna live.
We've never had a generation that has had all these medical advances.

Speaker 5 We could live forever.

Speaker 8 I'm done telling you guys about my life. Okay.

Speaker 5 They think the first person to live to 200 has already been born. Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 Do we know who it is? What's the

Speaker 5 die? But they know that. Who said that? So they've already been born.
There have been studies that have been done. No, big cat, you didn't read the studies that Billy read.

Speaker 5 It just came out. But seriously, they don't know how long we're going to live.
I mean, like, our grandparents lived to their 70s and 80s, and they were eating bacon and egg.

Speaker 5 Unless they lived around elevators. Yeah, they had a very, very long life expectancy.
That's true. But no, right now, I feel like it's been 77 years for the last 60 years.

Speaker 5 What's up, scientists?

Speaker 5 That's why I don't trust this whole Billy Football study that just came out, 160.

Speaker 5 That's a big gap. I love that, too.
Do we just miss like 120 through 140? Maybe.

Speaker 5 Because right now, the oldest person in the world, if you were to guess off the top of your head, how old do you think the oldest person in the world is? 110. How old is Lou Holt?

Speaker 5 It's probably some 10 years older than Lou Holt. It's probably some, it's probably some like...
Bonnie's grandma's three digits. Yeah, it's probably some 4'5

Speaker 5 Italian woman who's been eating pasta and drinking wine every day and like, you know, she's just living off the land and it's it's a beautiful existence. What?

Speaker 5 The world's oldest person is 118 years old. It's Kane Tanaka of Japan.
Oh, see,

Speaker 5 that doesn't impress me that much. How tall? That's a good thing for for you, PFT.
Sure people definitely live longer. Yeah, because we don't have this mass to pump all the blood through.

Speaker 5 Their life is significantly worse. No, because they live their whole life as short people, but they do live longer.
Close to the ground, better pad level.

Speaker 5 All right, so wait, what's his name? Tanaka? Kane Tanaka. And he's pretty.

Speaker 5 She is probably, what, five feet tall?

Speaker 5 Four seven. Still looking.
What were you going to say, Hank? Say it. Say it.
Say it, Hank. No.
Say it. Say it, Hank.
Say it. Nope.
Just say it. No.
What?

Speaker 5 Nothing. Don't rob the people.
Say it, Hank. Come on.
You've got to take.

Speaker 8 I don't. I have nothing to say.

Speaker 5 Oh, my God. You're robbing the people.

Speaker 5 You're withholding takes on this show now. This is not fair.

Speaker 8 Yeah, stop blowing out my personal life, and I'll start giving you more takes.

Speaker 5 You have a trainer.

Speaker 5 It's a woman.

Speaker 5 HIPAA. Hank's getting in shape.
All right, let's talk. So we're going to do the Mount Rushmore in a second.
We have two great interviews.

Speaker 5 PFT, you mentioned Jerry O'Connell has drafted our team for us. How did he do? He did.
Good question, Big Cat.

Speaker 5 He

Speaker 5 just used auto-draft.

Speaker 5 He knew he was going to do that. No, he tried.

Speaker 5 He was texting me all night on Friday, all morning on Saturday. I got him logged in, and then like 15 minutes after the draft, the entire thread started blowing up.

Speaker 5 People being like, is anybody else not able to draft? But to Jerry's credit,

Speaker 5 he did not make the draft on time. That might be, who knows? I'm just going to blame Yahoo on this one.
But he's been very active on the trade, like on the

Speaker 5 block. He's trying to trade.
He's proposed like seven different trades. He's to the point where I've got Turtle blowing up

Speaker 5 the thread for the entire group being like, Jerry just sent me the most offensive trade request that I've ever seen. That's how you negotiate.
Art of the deal. He's shooting.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But here's who's on our team right now. Nobody cares.

Speaker 5 Tom Brady, A.J. Brown.
Tyler Lockett, Christian McCaffrey, Chase Edmonds, Darren Waller,

Speaker 5 Joe Burrow. This is a good team.
Duke Johnson, Cole Beasley, Justin Tucker.

Speaker 5 You know what? I bet you Jerry probably drafted Justin Tucker first. This is a decent team.
And then Washington defense and special teams. I like our team.
I like our team a lot.

Speaker 5 I like our team a lot. Right now, we've got some pending transactions.

Speaker 5 He's got seven different pending transactions. What's the most offensive one he sent? He's big time trying to trade a lot of people for one good play.
I love it. That's how you win in fantasy.

Speaker 5 So let's see. There's only enough roster space.
Oh,

Speaker 5 he's trying to to trade for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 5 That's good. Yep.
Shoot it. Patrick Mahomes is good.
Every single trade that we have out there, we have at least one more player offered in the transaction than we'll be receiving.

Speaker 5 I hope Florio listens to this segment just punching air. Yeah.
Just talking to you. You like that? So our team is Jerry's kids.
And Jerry, don't fuck this up. Don't fuck this up.
Don't fuck it up.

Speaker 5 He keeps asking. Jerry's a sweet guy.
He keeps asking me who he can Venmo. I don't think he realizes that he's just a figurehead.
And that we're sponsored by Cash App. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So maybe just shoot him back that and see what he says. Yeah, but that's our team right now.
All right. Any other news? Well, there was some news.
Blake Bortles,

Speaker 5 there was a report out of the Broncos. So tell me the exact story.
Well, this is very... It's still speculation.
Speculation. It's speculation right now.
Free Blake.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 allegedly, remember that game last year when it was the Broncos against the Saints and everybody kept saying, like, how come the Ravens got their game just postponed for a couple days? Right.

Speaker 5 And the Broncos had to play it with no quarterbacks on the roster. All four of their quarterbacks were deemed close contacts.
There's a report that

Speaker 5 Blake had a great idea because he's thinking outside the box as a problem solver.

Speaker 5 And he said, why don't we take the tracking devices that we wear and just put them in the four corners of the room? And that way everybody will think that we're socially distanced. I love it.

Speaker 5 Blake's a people person.

Speaker 5 He gets energized by being around the fellas.

Speaker 5 And so they did that. They got caught on the videotape.

Speaker 5 It was shown that they were all sitting together. And then Roger McDowell said, well, I'm not going to make an exception for you guys.

Speaker 5 Now, the report that Blake was the mastermind about it is still the one. It's still speculation.
It's from that Albright guy. Oh, no, fuck that.
Then that's not the real...

Speaker 5 No, then they're framing Blake.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that guy's worse. It's set up.
It's set up. Blake's been set up.
Blake has been totally set up. He is totally...
Totally innocent. And it's a shame that they're blackballing him.

Speaker 5 They're Blakeballing him from the NFL. He's not on a roster, and he should be.
He will be on a roster. I'm sure of it as soon as we can clear his name.

Speaker 5 That's why we wanted to discuss it on this show, only to make sure that people knew that it wasn't real.

Speaker 5 I didn't realize it was from that guy. That guy's the worst.
We should sue him. We should sue that guy.
Okay, consider... Sue that guy.
If they don't sign Blake Bortles, we should sue that guy.

Speaker 5 Consider a lawsuit filed. Unless, of course, Blake was actually the one who did it, then we'd say that was a solid friend move.
We're posturing. Yeah, right.
At this point,

Speaker 5 I'll say it worse. If Blake had done that, it shows two things.
One, that he is a problem solver, and again, thinking outside the box, trying to figure out how to hang out with the fellas.

Speaker 5 And two, the fact that the entire quarterback room went along with it shows me that Blake is a leader. Right.

Speaker 5 And so they were all looking up to Blake as the alpha in that group, furthering the reasons why he should be on an NFL roster right now. Okay, so I'm looking right now.
So he, yeah,

Speaker 5 he just tweeted about it. Like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 5 This is libel. This is slander.
This is hearsay. Any other words?

Speaker 5 It's disgusting, disgusting, all of it. It's Fugazi, is what it is.
Fugazi, Fugazi.

Speaker 5 Also, Billy, he's a troop, so you're the only one that's allowed to engage him in mutual combat, given your experience. Since your arms are

Speaker 5 Did you actually tell us one time that your hands are registered as weapons? Because he watched Copyright.

Speaker 5 That was right after he sent an email to me and Dave and asked if there's any rules against having his trainer bring a handgun to Rough and Rowdy.

Speaker 5 I mean, that did. When you register as a professional boxer, boxer, which I had to do, you technically do not get a manslaughter charge if you were to punch someone and they were to die.

Speaker 5 You'd get a murder charge. Ah,

Speaker 5 again. Various sticks.
But you couldn't do that. Yeah, what about Washington, Mutual Combat?

Speaker 5 I don't know if that's... What if you half-punch a guy and he throws out his shoulder? No, then it's assault with a deadly weapon.
That's a win. That's just a fucking win.

Speaker 5 That's an assault with a deadly weapon. What if a guy punches you and then breaks his hand? Are you in trouble because your jaw is too strong? No, I have no idea.

Speaker 9 I was just told that probably kept me from getting into a fight outside of the ring which i don't want to do um all right let's do our mount rushmore our final mount rushmore of the season uh billy got to pick it hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local boars head retailer or you create your own spread at home with boarshead premium deli meats and cheeses you are sure to impress your guests My favorites like oven gold turkey or blazing buffalo style chicken paired with their classic Vermont cheddar or creamy Munster cheese are sure to score big and help me elevate my entertainment every time, whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

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Speaker 5 Boarshead, committed to craft since 1905. Okay, Mount Rushmore.
Billy, introduce it. This is the finale of Mount Rushmore season football.

Speaker 5 It's fully, fully back on Thursday, which, by the way, we're going to have Pete Priss go on for Friday, and we're going to record, obviously, after the game

Speaker 5 for we're going to have Fantasy Fuckboys back we're going to have some I have the Can't Lose parlays I'm fucking pumped you know what if you're listening to the sound of my voice right now all you have to do is make it through one more day and then it's football season yep and then it's football season let's fucking go so Billy the Mount Rushmore is

Speaker 5 Animal Face-Offs animal face-offs so there used to be a television program back when I was a kid called animal face-offs and it was my favorite and it would just have like simulations of different animals fighting each other and I thought it would be great to make a Mount Rushmore of animals we want to see fight.

Speaker 5 So, animals we want to see engage in combat. So, under the rules of this Mount Rushmore, humans are not allowed.
Humans are not allowed.

Speaker 5 Billy initially wanted to allow not only humans, but also humans that are dead to be brought back to life to fight in these hype.

Speaker 5 And he wants to do dinosaurs, which I think we should not allow either. I think he should show dinosaurs.

Speaker 5 We're going to do strictly animals that are currently alive and not extinct, not including humans. Okay.
Got it. Okay.

Speaker 5 And, alright, perfect. Great.
Let's do it. Numbers.
50. 17.

Speaker 5 29.

Speaker 5 69. Oh.

Speaker 5 I didn't think you were going to do that. That's good, Billy.

Speaker 5 That's good.

Speaker 5 I get it.

Speaker 5 Well, you always force me to choose because everyone picks under 50. Like, 66.
Good job, Billy.

Speaker 5 Billy. Am I getting hanked with the numbers? No.
Yeah, dude. We're totally faking it.
Because you guys all pick under 50, and then I have the largest span of numbers to pick. I pick 50.

Speaker 5 Right, so I pick 69, so I'm closer to most numbers than you are. You explain how you won that perfectly.

Speaker 5 Okay, do the order.

Speaker 5 We're going to go first, then Hank.

Speaker 5 Then PFT, then me. All right, and how is Jilly doing as a...

Speaker 8 Came in dead last.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. I'm saying, like,

Speaker 5 forget that. I'm saying how are they doing?

Speaker 5 We haven't won in a long time, but we do not have the lowest point. But do you feel strong about this? Are you guys working well as a team? What does that even mean?

Speaker 5 There's a stat, like, of the total percentage of votes or something. So, wait, you're saying, like, we're you're undervalued as far as the computers go.

Speaker 5 It's still a tag team, but this is Billy's moment. Yeah, his top.
It really is. Like, he has to win this.

Speaker 5 It's like Rocky, yeah, on the Clay Court. And we're just here to, yeah, we're just here for a good time.
Billy, you really have to win this one.

Speaker 5 No pressure, though.

Speaker 5 If I don't, that's going to. Yeah, no, I'm saying it's going to be terrible.
You may retire. It's going to affect your legacy.
It's going to be terrible.

Speaker 5 Okay, so one of one, we're going Silverback Gorilla versus Grizzly Bear. Okay.
Nice. Good pick.
Nice. Who wins? I didn't do specific animals like that.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 5 I had that, but I just didn't know, like, I just had bear versus gorilla. But yes, I love it.
Got to make sure what type of bear. Okay, yeah, yeah.
I realize that now.

Speaker 5 I'm gonna have to scramble here, folks. Black bears are basically large raccoons.
Yep, that's true.

Speaker 8 What type of gorilla was Harambe?

Speaker 5 Silverback.

Speaker 5 So I'm gonna go

Speaker 8 elephant versus silverback gorilla. Nice.
Island gorilla.

Speaker 5 I did the island gorilla. Yeah,

Speaker 5 I love it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the elephant outweighs a gorilla by like a thousand, probably like 5,000 pounds. Okay.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but if the elephant can fucking get on his back and get him in a chokehold.

Speaker 5 That's true. Tap him out.
A gorilla cannot tap

Speaker 5 out no. How do you know? You can just grab his trophy.
He can't get around the elephant. Hold his breath.

Speaker 8 You can get on top of him and just fucking.

Speaker 5 Do you know how big an elephant is?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 All right, my one-one.

Speaker 8 Like, Mighty Joe Young could fucking fuck that thing. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Mighty Joe Young is not a gorilla. He's not real.

Speaker 8 Right, but you know, he's based off a real thing.

Speaker 5 My one-one is there's got to be big gorillas out there. Tiger versus male lion.

Speaker 5 Like with the mane. The whole thing.
Okay. Full-grown tiger, full-grown lion.
Battle the the big cats. All right.
I'll go with,

Speaker 5 I'm going to go shark versus crocodile. I really want to see that.
We actually, a little spoiler, we have Bear Grillis on probably next week, and we talked about salties, he was calling them.

Speaker 5 Salt water.

Speaker 5 I really want to see that fight. That fucking thing, they just thrash around.
Spoiler alert, he told us that we could not defeat a saltwater crocodile. But I kind of debunked it.

Speaker 5 He also didn't take into account the fact that I think that I've seen outdoor shows where they like hypnotize a croc by like doing something with its nose. Yes.
So I would do something with its nose.

Speaker 5 I think we're good. All right.
So that's my first pick. Shark versus Croc.

Speaker 5 I will go next pick. I would love to see hippo versus rhino.
They're like kind of the same thing, right?

Speaker 5 What is the difference between

Speaker 5 you, Billy? Amazing pick. They're like, it'd almost be just watching the Oklahoma drill.
It'd be fun. Like it would be very fun to watch those two guys go out each other.
It'd be very fun.

Speaker 5 I had a similar one. I think I can still use it because it's not hippo.
I took elephant versus rhino. I like that.
I think I had that as well.

Speaker 5 I like the matchup of the tusks and the horn. Yep.
I think the elephant would win, but I would like to see it. They're worthy foes.
Yeah. Worthy adversaries.

Speaker 5 And also, just a heads up, I don't want to see anyone be like, hey, you can actually see this fight.

Speaker 5 I don't know if I really want to watch these animals fight. This is more a hypothetical thing.

Speaker 5 You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 Someone's going to tweet you and be like, dude, you can watch this elephant smash the brains out of this rhino.

Speaker 5 It's like, I don't actually maybe see it if you have a video of an elephant tearing an acl you send it this way yes yeah maybe

Speaker 5 actual fight yeah breaking its arm i'd be down for that i am one of those pussies that watches animals like eat each other and i'm like oh that's fucked up why would he why would he hurt that gazelle oh you're what yeah you're watching battle at kruger yeah and the crocodiles going after the other trying to eat and

Speaker 5 crocodile don't do that that little kitten so it's a fucking lion that would tear you to shreds uh yeah the duality of man show me human beings breaking their faces i'm down show me a ferocious lion getting killed and i want to puke yes it's a difference between slapstick comedy and a snuff film yeah it's a fine line hank your next pick

Speaker 8 uh i'm gonna go so this is based off my favorite scene i'm a big planet earth fan watched them all great program need to come out with a new season soon uh iguana versus killer snakes oh yeah remember the video it's slow-mo and it's the iguana running, and there's like all these kill-ass snakes coming out of the middle.

Speaker 5 The best is when they set it to the NFL Sunday Countdown song.

Speaker 5 And it's just like, it's weaving in and out of the snake. I'm pretty sure that was on.

Speaker 5 I don't think that was an iguana, which I think that... No, it was.
Wasn't it a Komodo dragon? No, it was one of the black iguanas that they have in South America. I thought it was a Komodo dragon.

Speaker 5 They're indigenous to the volcanic rocks. They're black, and they sneeze out saltwater.
Okay. But it was pick-ass.

Speaker 8 It was a shit ton of snakes coming out of this one iguana, so I'd like to see it if it was, you know, in like whatever, the Coliseum 1v1. Yeah.
I think the iguana might stay in a better chance.

Speaker 8 I think so.

Speaker 5 I like it. We're going to go with a Siberian tiger versus a polar bear.
Okay. Now,

Speaker 5 Billy, is the Siberian tiger, is that the white one? Or is that a common misconception? Common misconception. The white one is just a color morph, a variant, like blonde hair versus red hair.
Okay.

Speaker 5 But the Siberian tiger is the largest of the tigers, and the polar bear is the largest of the bears, and I think it would be a great matchup on various different levels.

Speaker 5 Is that why you're looking down your nose at me when I selected

Speaker 5 the standard male tiger? I mean, a Bengal tiger is quite small.

Speaker 5 Relative to

Speaker 5 quite small.

Speaker 5 They're the smallest. They're probably like 900 pounds.
Like, there's dogs that are quite large. Okay.
Yeah, I like that pick, though. Tiger-polar bear, good matchup.
Okay.

Speaker 5 You have another pick? Jake,

Speaker 5 have any of these been your picks? No. If they were, they probably wouldn't get approved.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, actually, this is our

Speaker 5 last pick? We have two more. Okay, do you want to do one?

Speaker 5 Oh. Thank you, Billy.
Oh. I'll do one.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 5 I think alligators and crocodiles,

Speaker 5 one of them fighting each other. Yeah.
I mean, one of them

Speaker 5 has to be on top of the other. They're very similar.
It's a major something's got to give. It's like

Speaker 5 the Steelers and the Ravens. Exactly.
I like it. Very identical.
I like it. Yeah.
Okay. Do you like it, Billy?

Speaker 5 I approve. All right.
Let's go. Nice.

Speaker 5 Nice.

Speaker 8 I would like to see like a diesel shark

Speaker 8 going at a whale. Like really trying to pick him apart, swim around him.
Like I know whales are like not really fighters. Yeah.

Speaker 8 But I think if it was getting attacked and like maybe like the shark was he was protecting it from his family or something, the whale would fight back.

Speaker 8 But obviously the shark's smaller, can swim around.

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 5 I'd like to see it. Yeah.
I would like to see it. Killer whales and sharks.
I think they are natural enemies, aren't they? Like they can fight. Yeah, well, killer whales, you know.
Is that true?

Speaker 5 Tilicum all the time.

Speaker 5 Sometimes they find giant, great white sharks with bites out of them, and they're like, what the hell is eating these giant sharks? There's no video.

Speaker 8 Show me that video because that sounds awesome.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 R.I.P. Tilicum.
Wait, no, not RIP.

Speaker 5 Well, it wasn't his fault.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 8 He fucked the whole game up. There you go.

Speaker 5 Free tilicum. All right.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 5 What? No, no free tilicum? I think...

Speaker 8 Wasn't it like him getting out there? Was what fucked everyone else up?

Speaker 5 No, but if you freed him, he was fucking freaking freaking freaking out. Oh, no, it was him reproducing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 All right. That shit was fucked up.
My next one,

Speaker 5 I'm going to downsize a little bit.

Speaker 5 Wolverine versus Honey Badger.

Speaker 5 Nice.

Speaker 5 I thought you had that from Billy. Damn.
You had that exact matchup?

Speaker 5 Because Billy knows that the Wolverines,

Speaker 5 their bite strength is the strongest in the animal kingdom.

Speaker 5 And the honey badger don't care. Yeah.
True. It's a fact.

Speaker 5 Good pick. Thank you.
All right,

Speaker 5 I'm going to go to the sky for this one. I'm going to go Falcon versus Hawk.
I I don't know specifically which ones, but I'd like to see that, like an old-school fighter pilot situation.

Speaker 5 Maybe, what was it? Dunkirk? Yeah. Dunkirk or Top Gun? Top Gun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Top Gun 2. Iron.
Watching them just dive at each other. That would be a dogfight.
Yeah. It would be awesome.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It would be sick to watch.

Speaker 5 All right. My last pick.

Speaker 5 Billy, I need a little help for something. I just don't know

Speaker 5 what's a

Speaker 5 step-down gorilla from the biggest gorilla. That's all I need help from.
Chimp.

Speaker 5 A chimp? Yeah, a chimp. So it goes gorilla chimp? There's not like a baby.
A bonobo?

Speaker 5 Bonobos are small, aren't they? What about baboon? Maybe a mandrill. Orangutan? Orangutan? Orangutang's.

Speaker 5 They got wingsprong? They got the wingspan. There's no like little gorillas, mini gorillas? Chimpanzees.
Those are mini gorillas? Basically. How tall are they? About PFT size.
That's pretty big.

Speaker 5 Are they really? Are they strong? Yeah, I mean, have you seen that? Yeah, they're like that size. Did you not hear Mush did? On Travis? Okay.
A bill ape. Is this

Speaker 5 gorilla? How tall is it?

Speaker 8 What? Showing it five feet.

Speaker 5 Okay. All right.
I want more.

Speaker 8 What bill sizes are comparable to other large chimpanzees?

Speaker 5 I think the only reason I'm not going full silverback gorillas because I think they would dominate this fight, but I'd like to see an ape, something, some type of ape that can stand up and box versus a kangaroo.

Speaker 5 So it's like an old school just boxing match. We actually are just squaring them up.
I just think the silverback would probably dominate a kangaroo, right, Billy?

Speaker 5 I think that's right because I've seen kangaroo get hit in the chin. They got a button.
Yeah. If you catch them right, they're kind of, they get stunned.
What do you think, Billy?

Speaker 5 Would a silverback crush a kangaroo if they just if they really squared up?

Speaker 5 I want to see, like, essentially the like going to, yeah, going to like an Irish pub version of let's step outside between a kangaroo and an ape. I would go with a lowland gorilla.

Speaker 5 Okay, so then the lowland gorilla. Perfect.
Iowa. Lowland gorilla versus a kangaroo.
Give me that.

Speaker 5 Three rounds, one-minute rounds. Perfect.
Alright. Alright, my last one.

Speaker 5 I'm going to go to the sea, to the high seas. I'm going to take a giant squid

Speaker 5 versus an anaconda.

Speaker 5 Anaconda that you might find in the Amazon River.

Speaker 5 And have them go at it. It would just be a lot of...
like a lot of tentacles. Just all limbs just trying to choke each other out.
Yeah. What, Billy?

Speaker 5 Bonk. Oh.
What? Bonk. Why is that a bonk? Bonk.
I don't know why. Well, it's a...
It actually is very. This is like Billy telling you.
Well,

Speaker 5 it's a phallic snake versus an octopus.

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 5 That is a bonk. There is such a thing, by the way.
I found this out a couple years ago. I was randomly talking to this person, and she was telling me that she used to write tentacle porn.

Speaker 5 And I was like, what the fuck is tentacle porn? Apparently, people do actually write like fanfic about like giant sea monsters that fuck each other, like krakens, just going at it.

Speaker 5 I did not know that at the time, but I know this was this was not bonk worthy. I think it's bonk worthy that you're saying that it's bonk worthy on me, Billy.

Speaker 5 I think you were looking for the bonk on this. No, but if you PFT's right, if you think that's sexual, then you're the pervert.
Yeah, that's what I think that he thinks so. No, you're perverted.

Speaker 5 No, no, you're perverted. He might subconsciously think that, but he's that's okay.
Let him see. I've walled that part of my brain off, so yeah.
It just came out, it did. It just slithered out.

Speaker 5 All right, Hank, what's your last one?

Speaker 8 I'm gonna go with the, I think, the biggest animal in the world, the giraffe, yeah, versus single hornet.

Speaker 5 Oh,

Speaker 5 definitely like next it to death, yeah, just yeah, stings its necks, swim around. Okay, I don't hate that.

Speaker 5 I actually considered doing the anaconda versus the giraffe just because that's a lot of neck for it to strangle.

Speaker 5 All right, Billy, finish us off. Hopefully, you're good.

Speaker 5 He's thinking, folks. It's Mr.
Relevant for the entire season. Yeah, true.
Did anyone think about doing... Well, no, I should wait till you do your last pick.

Speaker 5 Giant squid versus sperm whale. Ooh.

Speaker 5 Okay, and nobody's going to bonk him on that. Nope, that is totally normal.
That's a very typical normal. That's a very typical animal thing.
Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

Speaker 5 Listen, in the animal fighting community, a lot of people talk.

Speaker 5 It's like Pacquiao Mayweather.

Speaker 5 They've been trying to make this match for a really long time. It's like Hezbollah.
Yeah. Billy's.
There's drawings of the naval, like in naval sort of mythology.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Billy, you're bonking me for a giant squid and an Anaconda. You're like, yeah, I'm going to have to come whale.
I actually take it out. I just called an audible in my brain.

Speaker 5 I had another one down, but I did what you did with the touchback.

Speaker 5 What was your other one?

Speaker 5 We can grant you. This is the last pick of the whole.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. I want to stick with this one.

Speaker 5 The only one that I thought about, I think it would be interesting. But it probably, this is one of those ones that everyone would just send me videos.

Speaker 5 Just an all-out rat versus pigeon fight would be fun to be. Oh, yeah.
A rat versus pigeon. A battle royale? Yeah, just like who's the nastier animal? Yeah, I think I got to go rats on that one.

Speaker 5 I think so, too. The only way that the rats would win, if they just started eating the pigeons, they're like, this is fucking gross.
Yeah. Let's go home.
Rat versus pigeon.

Speaker 5 What about a coyote versus an actual roadrunner? That'd be fun to just like stumble upon and they would.

Speaker 5 Yes, it would. Very fun.
Any other one? See a dog pissing on a fire hydrant? Yeah. You're like, yeah, that's a classic.
Good job. Cape.
Buffalo versus American bison. Who'd win in? Ooh, nice.

Speaker 5 Okay, who would win in a lion versus a polar bear? Lions are too small. But like a big lion.
Like a Siberian tiger. And a small polar bear.
Okay, that's more like a grizzly bear.

Speaker 5 No, but I said a polar bear, a small one. Okay, I mean, polar bear would win.
Okay. What about like a runt of a like? What about a polar bear, like a baby polar bear versus a...
Of course it'd lose.

Speaker 5 What about a teenage polar bear versus a huge lion? Have a chance. Okay.

Speaker 5 When do polar bears like turn pro? When do they learn how to kill? Yeah, when do they stop being able to... When does a polar bear officially be able to beat a lion? Once it kills its first seal.

Speaker 5 Okay. Yeah, but a seal is way different than killing a lion.
That's a big step up. Well, actually, polar bears can fight walruses.
So that's also not that. The walruses are fat fucks.
Yeah, but

Speaker 5 with two giant knives coming out of their mouth. I wouldn't.
No. No, they're just kind of...
They look like Mike Holmgren. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 5 Like, when you put straws in your teeth and you're just like, oh, look, I'm a walrus. Huge Huge tusks.
What about, okay, but what about a polar bear that has only learned how to kill a baby seal?

Speaker 5 I don't think that you can say that that can take out a lion. Yeah.
Well, if they're like gigantic. Major step up in competition at that point.
Well,

Speaker 5 at what point does a polar bear stop becoming cute?

Speaker 5 As soon as they finish their coke.

Speaker 5 Yep. Billy, could you choke out a teenage polar bear?

Speaker 5 I'd get pretty cut up, but maybe. Yeah.
What about

Speaker 5 a.

Speaker 5 Is a polar bear the strongest bear? The polar bear is literally the largest land carnivore on Earth.

Speaker 5 Literally? Yeah, it's the biggest and probably most dangerous. Wait, is a carnivore?

Speaker 5 Carnivore. He got to see us on the elephant.
I was thinking, wait a second. Elephants.
Giraffe. Rhino.
Those guys just eat salads all day.

Speaker 5 It's crazy they get fat eating salads. It means that they fucking house them.
Yeah. I also had, well, before we stopped allowing human beings, I was going to say Major Biden versus a reporter.

Speaker 5 I was going to say Conor McGregor versus Jake Paul. Yep.
I'd like to see that too. I'd like to see that too.
I'd like to very much see that.

Speaker 5 All right. Good Mount Rushmore.
Billy. Great Mount Rushmore.
Chris Paul versus Possum would be funny, too. They just both fall down.

Speaker 5 Chris Paul versus a bad insurance plan. Yeah.
Yeah. Michael Vick versus a Pit Bull.

Speaker 5 I think everyone might see that. I would watch.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Send me a video if you actually have that one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Please. Attila the Hun versus Tiger.
That was on mine.

Speaker 5 Who do you think is the most dangerous human to ever exist? Hmm.

Speaker 5 Obama.

Speaker 5 H-Man.

Speaker 5 There we go. There we go.
Nice. Nice tank.

Speaker 5 All right, let's do our hot seat cool throne. Then we'll get to logic.
And then we have Dion says what's up, guys.

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Speaker 5 Hot seat cool throne, Hank.

Speaker 8 I'm gonna put myself on the hot seat.

Speaker 5 Why?

Speaker 8 I called Valteri Bates, Sebastian Bates, yesterday.

Speaker 8 People are not happy about it. I was thinking of Sebastian Vedel.
Just a lot of F1 going on in my brain.

Speaker 8 I'm just constantly thinking about, you know, the track and whatever the fuck they call it down there. Yep.
So that's my bad. Sorry to all my Mercedes heads.

Speaker 8 They did sign a new guy, though, a new young guy, whatever his name is.

Speaker 5 George Russell. Georgie.

Speaker 5 He's He's like the people's champ online. Everyone loves him.
They just love him. I was thinking about that the other night.

Speaker 5 Instead of trying to get a driver that could potentially beat your Golden Boy, they should just get the fastest driver and then just kind of slip a little bit of grain alcohol into his water.

Speaker 5 Just have him be the best driver. He's a little bit drunk.
But just like a little drunk. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 When does the season end?

Speaker 5 Sometime. Never

Speaker 5 for me. F1 is life.
It has ended. Yeah.
This last Sunday was the the last race.

Speaker 8 And then my cool throne is Paul Pierce.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was mine. God damn it.

Speaker 8 Do I have another one?

Speaker 5 It's okay. Who'd Paul Pierce do?

Speaker 8 There's an article, Chris Manix where an article came out, and he was basically like...

Speaker 8 The video, there were rumors that the video might affect his Hall of Fame vote, and he was like, I don't give a fuck about that. There's players

Speaker 8 are way worse. I quit ESBN because they were making me talk about LeBron too much.
I didn't really want to stay there anyway.

Speaker 8 And he was like, I'm divorced. I'm single.
You know what I mean? I'm divorced. I'm single.
I'm doing what everyone else is doing just because I took a video of it.

Speaker 8 It should affect my Hall of Fame vote, which is 100% true.

Speaker 5 So he's on the cool throne. Yeah, it was a big time sorry, not sorry.
I just don't give a fuck. I don't think that the professional basketball Hall of Fame has a clause against hiring strippers.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 8 And he was, that's what he was saying. There's people in the Hall of Fame that have done way worse things than just having strippers when you're a single guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was my cool throne as well.

Speaker 5 It was just a whole article of him being like, I don't give a fuck. And they made me talk about LeBron too much.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's straight ESPN propaganda.

Speaker 8 And my other cool throne was Waffle House employees.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 8 It was a great fight video of a Waffle House employee just

Speaker 8 fucking up a patron.

Speaker 5 Never fight a Waffle House cook. Right.

Speaker 8 Just a great video. A good reminder for the people.
If you're drunk, don't come at the employees at Waffle House because you'll get fucked up.

Speaker 5 He was ready to throw hands. It was awesome.
It's the best part of your day at Waffle House is when you get into fight. Yeah, your three fights that you get into.
Time to fight. All right, PFT.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is the Buccaneers

Speaker 5 because it looks like Jerry Jones is playing, I don't know, some monkey business with Zach Martin. Yep.
So it was reported that Zach Martin, who is

Speaker 5 not the most talented player on the Cowboys offense. I'm not even going to say the most important.
He's the heart and soul of the Dallas Cowboys offense.

Speaker 5 He was diagnosed with COVID or tested positive for COVID.

Speaker 5 Apparently, Jerry is about to break out the private jet, get whatever secret formula that they have to make it go away real fast.

Speaker 5 And Zach Martin has now been, I think, upgraded to doubtful, out of out. He was out initially.
Jerry? And now it's like he might be able to do it.

Speaker 5 So Jerry Jones is doing the thing that every fan does where a guy gets injured and then you just tell yourself, well, maybe it will just work out and he'll be better instantly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So he's going to have him on a plane ready to take off until the very last second.

Speaker 5 I think Jerry's just trying to play some mental warfare games with Tom Brady because Tom Brady is already playing the mental warfare games against the Cowboys, saying they've got a huge advantage because they've got so many defensive players that wear single-digit numbers, which I haven't seen yet.

Speaker 8 It's pre-R 101 from him.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 5 It's a pre-excuse. Yeah.
It's pre-R, yeah. It's pre-R.
I like it.

Speaker 5 My Cool Throne is Halloween. Uh-oh.
I just, I saw a fucking Spirit Halloween story yesterday. Oh, no.
In America, it's like we have four seasons.

Speaker 5 It's spring break, the 4th of July, Halloween, and Christmas, and that's it. And every year they all come sooner.
And we're not even...

Speaker 5 It was Labor Day, and they set up the spooky skeletons in the windows.

Speaker 5 But I think also, this is going to be a huge year for Spirit Halloween because we had so many businesses that totally went out of business over the last year. Yes.
There's so much more retail space.

Speaker 5 So many. There could be one on every single block.
Our downtowns are getting taken over by Spirit Halloween this year. And also, somebody brought in Halloween candy today.

Speaker 5 Like the Halloween themed Kit Kats were in the office. Oh, I saw those.
Yeah. It's tough.

Speaker 5 All right, my hot seat. I actually don't, I don't have one.
I had Paul Pierce in my cool throne. I forgot to write down a hot seat.
You can say Mayo. Mayo.
People went at me big time for Mayo today.

Speaker 5 And also, I think Cam found an old take where I basically was like, we did the Mount Rushmore dipping sauces. I put Mayo on mine.
Yeah. So we've been a Mayo podcast since the inception.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He found a blog that I was going to write that was just in defense of Mayo.

Speaker 8 You should retweet. One of the funniest tweets was when you did your,

Speaker 8 what did you make with Mayo? Like Mayo Nacho?

Speaker 5 I make Mayo Nog.

Speaker 5 Mayo nacho. Mayo eggnog, yeah.
Yeah, I think. Mayo mac and cheese.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 That was what I got Dion on, where I said, here's my homemade recipe for mac and cheese. It was dry-ass noodles with just like a bottle of mayonnaise next to it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, in 2016, all my Mayo Boys stand up, time to destigmatize Mayo.

Speaker 5 We've been fighting for Mayo for a long-ass time. Yeah, Mayo is not bad.

Speaker 5 And you get labeled as a Mayo freak if you defend it, but that's how far the Overton window has swung to the point where it's like, oh, people see someone say one positive thing about Mayo. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And they're like, ship this guy back to Brussels, this weirdo. Yes.
A perfectly normal amount of Mayo on a tuna fish sandwich or a turkey sandwich, that's the most American thing that you can eat.

Speaker 5 Yes, yes, agreed. Billy, or Jake,

Speaker 5 my hot seat's the Indiana equipment team. Indiana football.
Indinia. Yeah, I saw that.
So unfortunate.

Speaker 5 I'm going to be nice to Indiana because they all got mad at me when I said that Indiana's got to have more than one good season that just happened to happen during COVID and all their breaks went their way.

Speaker 5 Was that during the game? Yeah. Yeah.
Indynia? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's tough. I-N-D-I-N-I-A.
Mm-hmm. So cool thrown is Max Scherzer.
So we just had a 13-strikeout game.

Speaker 5 He's six strikeouts away from 3,000.

Speaker 5 I keep forgetting he's on the Dodgers. Yeah.
And if they are in the playoffs, they're going to be in the playoffs, but I think Kershaw is right.

Speaker 5 But if if he comes back, him, Kershaw, Walker, Bueller, that's... Yeah, no, it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Good team. Yeah.
Very good. The Giants are good too, though.
Him and Trey Turner. Yeah, they are.
Yeah, thanks, Jake. Yeah.
Anyone else you want to mention on that team?

Speaker 5 Trey actually told us the other day that

Speaker 5 he laughs at Dave Roberts and everybody else on the team who's afraid of Max Scherzer.

Speaker 5 Like, they're afraid to get near him during starts, and Max is like playing it up to them a little bit, trying to just intimidate them when he's just like fucking around with him.

Speaker 5 He actually doesn't care if you go up and you talk to him. But he is a crazy person.

Speaker 5 All that said. Absolutely.
And I wish them nothing but the best.

Speaker 5 As a Washington sports fan, that is what I've grown accustomed to doing: just cheering for players leaving my team to do well in their new homes. Their forever homes.

Speaker 5 There was a clip like a couple weeks ago where he came off the mound after an inning and somebody patted him on the back and he was like, Don't fucking touch me. Yeah.
Yeah. I love that.

Speaker 5 Keep that energy, Max. Billy, hot seat cool throwing.
My hot seat's humanity. Jeff Bezos has just bought a good chunk of an anti-aging company that's seriously into anti-aging.
So Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 5 So maybe that's the 200-year-old thing. Exactly.
It's going to be Jeff Bezos. It's going to be Jeff Bezos and he's going to rule the world.
It's probably just going to be his girlfriend.

Speaker 5 Whatever hole he's in at the time. He's like, yeah, she's going to live to 200, too.
My other hot seat is Ben Mintz.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's getting back on the wagon in regards to his diet because he's been doing really terribly this past week because of the hurricane. Sweet.

Speaker 5 Wait, what?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was eating pretty badly this past week.

Speaker 5 Because of the hurricane? Yeah, he's been stress-eating. It's a real problem.

Speaker 5 But you guys just started the Mincy experiment. I know, but then the hurricane hit, and then he's sitting worried about the hurricane, which is very valid, but I have a job to do.
Right,

Speaker 5 he's on the Nick Saban diet, just like sitting in front of his television, eating oatmeal, cream pies, and watching the weather.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying he shouldn't have been stressed about the hurricane, but it seems like he kind of owns you because he can be like, yeah, I'm stressed about this. I'm going to eat.

Speaker 5 Next week, he's gonna be stressed about this. He's gonna eat.
But when he's like in his apartment and you can hear the crinkle of the bags, you gotta go in there and steal it from him.

Speaker 5 I know, but it was in the middle of the hurricane. I didn't know he was yelling, like, you know how he yells sometimes? Billy, how seriously do you take your job? Very seriously.
That's why he's back.

Speaker 5 It sounds like you're intimidated by it. Write down all of his cheap meals.
I saw that notepad. It was a long list.
Yeah, then I added up all the calories, hypothetically.

Speaker 5 And now for every 500 calories, he owes me a suicide at a local basketball court so that's what we're getting to all right sounds like the minting experiment's not going well but nice try we're going for it okay we're sticking to it uh cool throne we're going with derrick henry turns out derrick henry has a legion of practice squad players who are basically his stiff-arm dummies no so there was a video that went viral of about that was will compton's job last night was that his job probably

Speaker 5 well he they're on these pads and you see Derrick Henry running past and just basically you have these practice squad players on their hands and knees and Derrick Henry just is stiff arming them as they sort of lunge in him

Speaker 5 and he's just hitting them in the head repeatedly and I just couldn't imagine being like those players next must have like serious like

Speaker 5 nerves. I don't think I would take like an NFL player's salary.

Speaker 5 I don't think I would even like be on an act of right if you were to come to me right now and say PFT I will pay you $2 million a year to be a linebacker.

Speaker 5 You'll never have to get in a game for the Titans, but you get to wear the uniform. You get get to be part of the squad.

Speaker 5 I would say no if that's what my data did. That's just a man's got to have a line.
Yes. Right? And I think that that line,

Speaker 5 I have too much pride to just get stiff-armed by Derrick Henry through the crust of the earth every single day. Agreed.
They should develop some sort of dummy to do that on.

Speaker 5 And also, Cool Throne FCF schools.

Speaker 5 The single-game tackle record was broken by Fordham player Ryan Greenhagen, who had 31 tackles in a game against Nebraska. There you go.
Wow. Ram fam.

Speaker 5 So still didn't cover. Insane stat.
31 tackles. It's only 25 tackles in the NFL held by Ryan Ehrlicher.
The Bears. Ryan Ehrlicher.

Speaker 5 Is that his brother? Brian. I said Brian.
Oh.

Speaker 5 That's Brian with hair. Everyone's bookie.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 5 Let's get to our interviews. We got Logic, the rapper.
Awesome interview. Something a little different.
And then we have Dion coming up after that.

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Speaker 5 And now here he is.

Speaker 8 Logic.

Speaker 5 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Bobby Hall, aka Logic.
He has a new memoir out. It is called This Bright Future.
So we want to talk to you about everything, your career in rap,

Speaker 5 books,

Speaker 5 the fact that you're a streamer, everything. But let's talk about the memoir first.
So This Bright Future, it's out September 7th.

Speaker 5 You know, for people who don't know Logic, that don't know your background, you had a tough

Speaker 5 childhood. So my first question is, writing this memoir, like going back and remembering everything, how like how difficult is that?

Speaker 5 Because I have to imagine it's not an easy thing to live through and write about painful memories.

Speaker 11 Great question, man. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 11 It's weird. I've always been extremely open,

Speaker 11 you know, with myself and all the things that I've gone through, especially and particularly through my childhood. So it wasn't like this insane, intense, gut-wrenching um

Speaker 11 experience it's it's stuff that i've talked with my friends about that you know and i've been able to cope through that um

Speaker 11 it was definitely weird to kind of uh

Speaker 11 do it in chronological order where you take all these memories because i worked with a collaborator who helped me um basically i mean every word is mine you know this is my book i wrote it but this person like you know i thought it would be amazing if we had conversations So it's almost like this person kind of interviewed me and then we took my transcripts and, you know, I organized it all.

Speaker 11 And then he also helped me kind of

Speaker 11 just create this linear story of my life because.

Speaker 11 He would just be like, hey, how do you feel about XYZ? Or when's the first time this? Or he'd be like, tell me about your mom.

Speaker 11 And then I'd be telling him, you know, experiences from 17, four years old, nine years old, then my dad. And then

Speaker 11 one, I don't know, somehow that would just turn into me talking about being 28 and having a huge hit record. And that.
So we kind of took that and put it all together.

Speaker 11 So it was, for me, it was a really cathartic experience. It was really fun.
It was definitely emotional at times,

Speaker 11 but not in a bad way, in a very good,

Speaker 11 just a good way.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Did you, did you actually go back and read it after it was all put together?

Speaker 11 Dude, I've read this book like a thousand times, especially because I did the audio book. And like, so I read the whole audio book as well.
So, or I narrate it, I should say.

Speaker 11 And when I was doing it, is my mic level cool, by the way?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's great. Yes.
Okay, great.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 the difficult part about narrating your own book, or at least a book like mine, is when I like explain shit, you know, when I'm like, yeah, man, I was on stage and then this guy jumped off the second story and almost broke his kneecap and my brother came out of nowhere and punched him in the face.

Speaker 11 And then the cops showed up.

Speaker 11 That's how I tell the story. Now, your average narrator of literature may take their time with every word, but not me, man.
Like,

Speaker 11 I wanted it to be an experience where it's like the person listening to is like my homie, you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 So, with that,

Speaker 11 even though I wrote it and even though I had to read it and proofread it a million times before we actually got to the narration of doing the audiobook,

Speaker 11 when I'm telling this story and it's really super crazy, and then oh. Shit, okay, I messed up.

Speaker 11 When I'm telling this story and it's really super crazy, and then that's when this dude showed up and he actually held me hostage. These are all true stories, by the way.

Speaker 11 It's you have to match that. It's like a a match cut that has to be perfectly done, like almost in film or when punching in music.
And luckily,

Speaker 11 with rap, you know, like

Speaker 11 not like I'm showboating or anything, but I have a song and one of the lyrics, it goes, fuck rap, busting like an addict with a semi-automatic. Who'd have had it?

Speaker 11 Are you ready for anybody to buck back? Hold up, catch a vibe.

Speaker 11 So if I fuck up right there, hold up, catch a vibe. Oh, shit, I fucked that.
So instead of doing fuck rap, you know, busting like a semi-automatic, who'd have had it? Are you ready?

Speaker 11 I'll punch in on buck back. So it's, it's, I, I kind of took that experience with music tonally to be able to do like a proper cut.
But I mean, dude, sometimes I'd, I'd kill it for like a paragraph.

Speaker 11 And then other times it's hard to get through two sentences

Speaker 11 because of the enunciation and it's all got to be perfect. But it was fun.

Speaker 5 Okay. So what you just did right there.
Your flow, your ability to, you know, rap so quickly. When was the first time you realized you had that ability? Because it blows my mind.

Speaker 5 Like every time I hear someone be able to do that, I can barely put a sentence speaking together.

Speaker 5 So when was it like, oh shit, like I have a special gift here?

Speaker 11 It's definitely something that

Speaker 11 I had to work hard at. You know what I mean? Like I worked my whole life to

Speaker 11 get to where I am professionally and

Speaker 11 just even ability-wise to do that. So

Speaker 11 I studied the greats before me, you know, Nas, Big L,

Speaker 11 Biggie, Tribe Call Quest, Wu-Tang Clan, Bone Thugs and Harmony, you know, even Ludacris. Ludacris has like,

Speaker 11 his pronunciation game is insane. Like he would do the fast raps, but it wasn't like, and I even remember my brother when I would first start.

Speaker 11 doing these fast raps. He was like, nah, man, you sound like shit, man.

Speaker 11 He's like, you got, he's like, I get it, man, but you got it, like, you know, and I'm just like, yeah, it's the one and only, and I'm here.

Speaker 11 And and I got it at a time, and your tongue's all fucking up. And like, so you really have to take that time.
It's, it's really about muscle memory.

Speaker 11 And then you learn that it's, it's, it's truly muscle and air. I know this sounds stupid, but it's like, right now, I, I'm just talking to you.

Speaker 11 But when you're rapping, it's just pushing air out literally. I know it sounds almost like duh, but it's like.
There's a certain sequence that, you know,

Speaker 11 not to sound sus. I'm just saying like your tongue moves and your, and your lips and all these things that you don't even think about.

Speaker 5 You know, yeah, straight up.

Speaker 11 Get down and lay down, hit you with the brevet, you better stay down, straight shots on the playground, living, how, living with the light that I'll give it.

Speaker 11 It's just, it comes out naturally after you've done it a million times. But it literally, you know, they say 10,000 hours.
It's like, it took a very, very long time.

Speaker 5 That's really interesting to me because, and we're kind of idiots. So like this, this world is not something that we're extremely familiar with.

Speaker 5 But like, we always relate everything back to sports because we're dumb. So like when you're trying to learn how to, you know, how to get faster and at the same time, keep that same enunciation.

Speaker 5 Like, are there, are there exercises that you're doing? Or do you, like, clock yourself with a metronome and you're like, got up to 150 BPM today?

Speaker 5 Like, is it, is it like an athlete that's training to run a 40-yard dash?

Speaker 11 I think so, yeah. Um, for sure, because I used to rap and run.
Like, I would, like, run, and I was like 110 pounds and smoking cigarettes either.

Speaker 11 But it's like, yeah, like you definitely take that time. I mean, it's a muscle.

Speaker 11 And no matter what it is, and I mean, it's even deeper than that, right? It's not even just the technical skill or ability.

Speaker 11 It's also like what sounds cool, you know, like if you're going to have a punchline. Like, I remember I wrote this punchline.
I had my last

Speaker 11 album

Speaker 11 is called No Pressure, and it came out last year.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 I'm obsessed with Quentin Tarantino, right? And so before Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was even out, I had come up with this punchline.

Speaker 11 Now, Rick Dalton is played by Leonardo DiCaprio, and Cliff Booth is played by Brad Pitt.

Speaker 11 And before I'd even seen the movie, because it wasn't out, I just saw their IMDb page and I knew Cliff Booth and Rick Dalton. And

Speaker 11 there's a line that I have

Speaker 11 where I say, money ain't the key to happiness, and that's the truth. Feeling close to the cliff, like Rick Dalton in the booth, like the booth of rapping.

Speaker 11 So it's, it's like, it's not just about necessarily technical technical ability. It's also wittiness and being able to pull things together.
But, you know,

Speaker 11 that also came with listening to so many people before me. I mean, everything and anything that's kind of already been said in rap, I mean, music in general, it's already really been said.

Speaker 11 It's just about how you say it. I mean, you can only make, but so many punchlines about, I don't know.

Speaker 11 You know, I sell,

Speaker 11 like, you can talk about rocks of cocaine. Like, I sell big rocks like Mount Rushmore or some shit.
Like, somebody's probably said something like that.

Speaker 11 Thank you. Somebody's Somebody's probably said something like that in one way or another already, but it's just, it's your take on it.
It's so part of my take.

Speaker 5 There we go. So, yeah, so, so you got the memoir that's out right now.
Have you, have you stopped to think, like, did I, did I use my memoir too soon?

Speaker 5 Because, like, or can you go back in like 10 years? What's the, what's the time frame that you have to wait if you want to write another memoir?

Speaker 11 What a good question. Great question.
I don't plan on it. I don't plan on it anytime soon.
It just felt right, you know.

Speaker 11 I mean, literally, you know, black dad, white mom, dad on crack, mom on drugs, alcoholic. Like I said, been kidnapped, held against my will, shotguns, sold drugs, you know, toward the world,

Speaker 11 had mental health issues. Like, it's just so much stuff that I've gone through that it just felt right that, like, okay, now is the time to say it.

Speaker 11 31's young. Yeah, it is to to write a memoir on your life.
But I think in many ways, funny. So like last year, I had retired.

Speaker 11 And then like literally less than a year later, I kind of unretired, which is funny, but I don't give a shit what anybody can say on the internet. I woke up one day and kind of wanted to do it again.

Speaker 11 But the fact of the matter is this is like I really did retire in a way.

Speaker 11 It was about, can you get the number ones? Can you go platinum? Can you this? Can you that? Can you da da da?

Speaker 11 And really a lot of that started with a chip on my shoulder being back in Maryland and people being like, oh, you ain't never going to have a mixtape. And and then you make a mixtape.

Speaker 11 And it's like, Well, you're never gonna go on tour, and then you go on tour.

Speaker 11 Okay, well, you ain't never gonna

Speaker 11 sell out 500, and then you sell out 500 cap and then a thousand and then 5,000. And before you know it, you're selling out Madison Square Garden in New York City.
You know, you got almost 10 platinum.

Speaker 11 I think, yeah, 1-800 is almost diamond now. Like, it's just all these things that people say that you can't do.

Speaker 11 And it's been a journey. And I've realized, getting back to my point, sorry for going off on this tangent, but

Speaker 11 everything that I've done, everything that you could kind of do as a musician, like I've hit that with the exception of winning a Grammy. I never won a Grammy.
And

Speaker 11 I was over that shit. I was over the hamster wheel of like, oh, okay.
Cause it's like you get a number one and then what? Another one and another one. And another.
It's like, bro, I'm 31.

Speaker 11 I don't need to be rapping like I'm 22. And hip-hop, especially, is such a young man's game.
It doesn't mean that men can't age in that.

Speaker 11 But as far as trying to be like, look at me, look, I'm on TikTok, like doing a dance, like, no, I'm not, motherfucker, I'm taking care of my son. And, you know what I mean? And

Speaker 11 being with my wife and my friends and doing other things. So that last album, No Pressure, really, I think, is a retirement of like that era

Speaker 11 of the last decade of my life of grinding with music. And now it's like, if I want to rap, I rap.
If I want to sing and play guitar, I do that.

Speaker 5 It doesn't have to be this big like thing because in music, you could drop an album like mine, you know, sell a quarter million units in its first week and it's really amazing and then after that you could just drop like a fun project or something you did for fun and people like oh you fell off because you didn't do as much and it's just like that's not a world i necessarily want to live in it it sounds i mean this might be uh you know not projecting but like it sounds like at some point you get almost trapped in your own success where people are just saying like oh well the next thing's got to be bigger the next thing's got to be bigger now when you did retire did you like actually give it it a honest try of like i'm not doing anything like did you actually retire

Speaker 11 of course not no for sure hey jt can you tighten this for me um just this strap sorry guys um no

Speaker 11 no way like i i'm such a workaholic dude like

Speaker 11 i i was constantly even still making music i mean that's one thing that you don't just lose you know you don't lose the passion to to to make music. And for me, it was also, it's cathartic.

Speaker 11 It's a way I've always expressed myself. You know, I came up in a family where it was just yelling and screaming and drinking and crying and passing out and all these different things.

Speaker 11 And I found a way to escape that through music and actually talk about my feelings. And it's funny because I got made fun of in hip-hop, especially for doing it.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 For being like, it's okay. And, you know, anxiety happens.
And people are like, fuck you, you idiot. Like, this is like, you know, but

Speaker 11 So yeah, I was still constantly doing that. And then film.
I mean, film's my thing now, dude.

Speaker 11 I'm, I'm, I'm a couple million dollars into this film that i just wrote and i'm starring in it and it's like a legit thing and i'm excited and i've wanted to do it and i've i just did this uh you guys know joseph gordon

Speaker 11 actor he's an inception and a bunch of yeah yeah he we became buddies and then i just uh had this crazy role like this whole episode is about me and my character and it's not just some rapper guy it's like just a regular guy and uh it's on apple tv and that just inspired me so much to kind of want to pursue that as well so long story short, fuck no, man.

Speaker 11 I didn't stop. I'm not going to stop.
I love working.

Speaker 5 I like it. You basically use like the word retirement to just transition into a different phase of your career.
That's genius.

Speaker 11 But I really thought I was going to be done with releasing music, if I'm honest. Like I really felt that way.
And I think a lot of it was...

Speaker 11 It wasn't anger. It was just like, I'm tired of being on this chopping block of like, and it's not just hip-hop, just music in general, like entertainment.
Like, you know what I mean? Like, dude,

Speaker 11 it was crazy. It was like, I remember going through a divorce and then I meet this, you know, beautiful young woman after that.
And TMZ is like taking shots of us getting on a jet and shit.

Speaker 11 Now, I'm not complaining. It's a champagne problem.
Like, you know, there could be, I've experienced worse shit. But for me,

Speaker 11 it's just, I don't need that. I don't need people calling my.
19 year old son ugly and hoping that he dies. So it's like, that's kind of the, the, the world

Speaker 11 that I didn't want to be a part of anymore. And then I realized, oh no, I don't need to stop making music not to be a part of that world.
I just need to unplug from it.

Speaker 11 And I literally haven't been on the internet in like two years.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So so you said that before we started.

Speaker 5 When you say you haven't been on the internet, like tell us exactly, like, are you saying you don't go on Twitter? You don't go on anything. You're on the hub, you know? Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 5 what do you do? Like, because I'm jealous, honestly. I mean, our job is very intertwined with the internet.

Speaker 11 um we always joke like we're on twitter all the time because we do it for our job there are many times we're like we kind of wish we could just pull the plug and just not be on it but how like are you really not on the internet yeah i'm really not on the internet but that's me that's the thing i woke up one day and realized oh i don't have to be right so it's like my job was that my job was trying to stay as relevant as possible and you know listening to new music and beats and responding to fans all the time and this and that and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 11 And just everything was engaging, engaging.

Speaker 11 I mean, bro, I remember, you know, at the height of me constantly being on the internet, it's like one post on an Instagram story would get like over a million views. Right.
Like it was insane.

Speaker 11 Like I could just do one Instagram and be like, I'm scratching my balls. And people were like, ha ha, it's a million fucking people.
Now it's not.

Speaker 11 You know, it's like a couple hundred thousand or whatever. But it's, but even that, what does that equate to? What the fuck does that even mean?

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 11 yeah, I was, I was, I was holding value of myself as a man and a human being to like how many likes I got. And then I'm like looking at Travis Scott, like, fuck, man.

Speaker 11 How come I've only got, you know, 900,000 likes and this motherfucker's got 2 million? And then I'm like, wait a second. I love Travis Scott.

Speaker 11 Where is this thing coming into my head where now I'm jealous of this guy?

Speaker 11 Not really. It's not like I ever had any like true.
I mean, I fuck with him. He's cool.
Every time we've ever seen each other, it's all love.

Speaker 11 I'm just using that as an example to what social media can do.

Speaker 11 it can take somebody you actually like love and admire and want to root for and then make you like jealous of them and be like what the and then you're constantly comparing and it's this whole thing so i i stepped out of that um and i'm i'm lucky enough to have built such a fan base a die hard fan base in the rat pack which is what i call them real all the time that i can do that um

Speaker 11 because before you know the that song 1-800 blew up and then the other songs that followed with marshmallow and mm and all these other consecutive i mean hit records not sounding on type well i'm just being real like before that dude it was like 10 years of grinding it was 10 years of a slow burn so that even before i i had those hits um i had platinum records i could i was selling out 5 000 cap venues 6 000 cap venues i was doing that and i just had to step back and go okay

Speaker 11 You never know what could happen. I could drop a song and it could be a huge hit and I could go play Madison Square Garden again.

Speaker 11 Or, you know, I could not try to do that. I could just do it from my heart and be happy with 5,000 people here, 3,000 people there, da, da, da, whatever, over time, you know, as

Speaker 11 things may unwind. But the thing that matters to me most is my son, my wife, and my personal happiness and venturing out into other dreams, such as acting.

Speaker 5 Wait, so quick quiz, side tangent quiz. So you're not on the internet,

Speaker 5 Like Mike Richards' Jeopardy controversy. No idea.

Speaker 11 I have no idea. I just found out about a crate challenge in the hood.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Okay. All right.
Yeah, go ahead, PFT. Do the words bean dad mean anything to you?

Speaker 5 Not at all.

Speaker 5 What about the guy who tweeted that he didn't fuck his cats and basically was admitting that he was fucking his cats? Wait, no, he didn't come anywhere else.

Speaker 5 No, he didn't come on his cats, but he might have fucked them. Nothing?

Speaker 5 No, bro. Okay, what about the guy that may or may not have found shrimp inside of his cinnamon toast crunch?

Speaker 11 Man, the only thing I've heard of recently is

Speaker 11 this bored ape thing. And then I was like, oh, should I drop half a million dollars on this?

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 you're now watching, we have worms in our brains, what we just showed you. Like what we actually, like the amount of stupid things that we have inside of our brains is so, so bad.

Speaker 5 There's like 2% of my brain that has to have the information in it of like a father that gave his daughter a can of beans and asked her to open it.

Speaker 5 And for some reason, Bean Dad occupies real estate in my brain. And I would give anything to like cleanse all that stupid shit out.

Speaker 5 So I guess my follow-up to you would be: how long after you logged offline were you able to stop remembering all the dumb shit that you used to care about?

Speaker 11 It happens pretty quick, actually. Like when you really fully commit, I don't know.
It's like smoking cigarettes or something, you know, like nicotine. It's like two weeks.
It's like, damn, man.

Speaker 11 You know what I mean? But then, and then you start to realize, wow, leaves are green. Yeah.
Like, I know that sounds stupid, but it's like, you're like, whoa, hold on.

Speaker 11 Like, you actually want to look at things and realize, like, yo, like, but it also kind of comes with its,

Speaker 11 I'm not, no, it's way more positive than negative yeah yeah the internet is a beautiful place right but the internet's a beautiful place like to connect us and like if you're using it for work and you know you guys what you're doing like it's it's amazing but just literally sitting there mindlessly scrolling and then getting into like a youtube section comment fight and like like all that is so redundant like i just i can't do it doesn't really doesn't do it for me but One of the other things is like my mind's constantly going all the time.

Speaker 11 So when I

Speaker 11 when I'm off the internet and I don't really have anything to distract me, sometimes you just start thinking about real shit like death. Like I just set up my will.

Speaker 11 Like that's a crazy thing to like go through. You know what I mean? But it's also, it gives you peace of mind.
I know your family's going to be okay and stuff like that.

Speaker 11 But it's just like a weird like

Speaker 11 concept of.

Speaker 11 oh, now I'm alone with my thoughts.

Speaker 11 You know, I mean, really with my thoughts. And another thing that's scary, dude, is like my my whole life has been on the internet.
So now that I'm off the internet, there was a long time.

Speaker 11 And some days I still question and wonder, like,

Speaker 11 am I relevant? Like, does anybody even care about me?

Speaker 11 And it's like, of course, I have millions of fans all over the world. But the thing is, I can't see them.
And yo, I live in the bum fuck country, man.

Speaker 11 I moved from LA so I could shoot guns and fucking hang out. Like, you know what I mean? So it's like, I go to the store and it's Kalitis who's like, hey, Bob, has no idea who the fuck I am.

Speaker 5 You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 But I like that. It's given me such a normalcy that I'm glad that I have.

Speaker 11 But it just makes you kind of question, like, oh, like, is my career over? Right. On a Tuesday.
But then it's like, I don't know, you go somewhere and like 20 kids are like, oh, my God.

Speaker 11 And you're like, oh, okay, cool, cool.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's interesting because like.

Speaker 5 When you look up, when you Google your name, when you Google logic online,

Speaker 5 one of the first things that pops up is like, is logic dead?

Speaker 5 And so I have to assume that that's just simply a byproduct of you.

Speaker 5 Like, if you log off social media for a week, there's a significant part of the internet that just thinks that you died at that point.

Speaker 11 It's funny though, because I've actually Googled many people and that comes up. I think it's like a weird thing, but I do agree with what you're saying.

Speaker 11 Yes, people could just think that you disappeared.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so

Speaker 5 confirmed not dead.

Speaker 11 I think so.

Speaker 5 Okay, good.

Speaker 5 Good. We can put that one to bet.

Speaker 5 Have you listened to Donda?

Speaker 11 No, I'm not really into rap.

Speaker 5 Okay, there we go. Good answer.

Speaker 11 I'm sure it's great.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, I know. I did see,

Speaker 5 our producer's a huge fan. He sent us some info, and there was a, you did like on Complex, you did your top.
25 albums of all time, and three of them were Kanye. So I didn't know if you.
I love Kanye.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 11 Dude, Kanye is like

Speaker 11 my favorite. I think that I think the issue, not issue, there's no issue

Speaker 11 with me is that

Speaker 11 I don't give a shit. Like, and I don't mean that to be rude.
I like, don't give a fuck.

Speaker 11 Like, my whole life was rap, and who's the number one, and who's got the hottest this and that, and blah, blah, blah. Bro, I'm listening to Bowie, and like,

Speaker 5 I'm just chilling. So, what are you listening to right now? Give us a list of things that are like you're listening to to right now.
I like that.

Speaker 11 I love Mac DeMarco. He's a shit.
I've been listening to a lot of Velvet Underground Stones.

Speaker 11 When I do listen to hip-hop, Tribe, man, you know, I'm listening to Tribe Call Quest, a lot of classic shit.

Speaker 11 Modern rap, not so much. One of my favorite rappers ever, his name is Like.
He used to be in a group called Pac Pac Div.

Speaker 11 He's amazing. So it's like, it's not like I don't like, I love rap.

Speaker 11 I just, when it comes to modern rap and shit,

Speaker 11 I don't really listen to it. But that doesn't mean that I hate on it.
It means that I'm kind of the old head now. So I'm like 31.
So I can appreciate it. I totally get it.

Speaker 11 Those kids doing what they're doing right now is what I did 10 years ago. And there was some dude my age, like, I don't get this fucking logic, guys.
This dude ain't black. What the fuck is this shit?

Speaker 11 Like, you know what I mean? Like, it is just what it is, man. Yeah.
It's just progression. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So when you were growing up, you mentioned like a few artists, Bone Thugs, obviously Ludacris, Biggie.

Speaker 5 Who were your favorite artists?

Speaker 11 like not necessarily your biggest influences but like who were you the biggest fan of you know what's funny dude is like well yeah i mean kanye is really up there i gotta tell you like it's funny that it's like i haven't even listened to the album and it's not really a thing but um

Speaker 11 i never really listened to music if i wasn't studying it like ever it was a weird thing so like all i did was consume hip-hop music until I was like 27, 28.

Speaker 11 Now, mind you, I'd listen to all kinds of music because I'm searching for samples and different. But once again, listen to what I'm saying.
Like, it was never really

Speaker 11 to enjoy. You know, it was always like, oh, how can I flip this guitar? Or how can I do this? Or how can I do that? So I'd go, you know, searching for albums and different vinyls and things like that.

Speaker 11 But it was always work.

Speaker 11 So that's why it's like, I feel like I pretty much know,

Speaker 11 I'm a student and I'm always learning. But when it comes to hip-hop, dude,

Speaker 11 I'm a master. It's my craft.
It's what I do. I love it.
I dedicated my entire life to it.

Speaker 11 So now for leisure, unless it's just Midnight Marauders or just some album that, you know, black on both sides, most deaf, like just so incredibly, like, I do take great pleasure in it.

Speaker 11 It's other genres of music and mainly like indie rock and shit, classic rock.

Speaker 5 So what, what, where does the enjoyment come in for you?

Speaker 5 If you, you know, look back at your career when you were rapping more frequently, was it like when you create a song and you listen to it back the first time?

Speaker 5 Is that what gives you that rush where you're like, Yes, I feel you know, I'm proud of this accomplishment?

Speaker 5 Or you know, when you hear somebody singing along to your song, when a fan comes up and says what's up to you, like, what was the uh, what was the reward that you got from making it if you're approaching it from this standpoint of almost like you're putting together a puzzle, listening to all these different samples that you can fit?

Speaker 5 Like, where does that where's the enjoyment come in for you?

Speaker 11 Great question.

Speaker 5 Uh, yeah, I mean, you really, you really nailed

Speaker 11 it right there. Like, the the

Speaker 11 process of creating music is the most

Speaker 11 it's like euphoric, it's like spiritual. It's weird, man.

Speaker 11 Like even to this day, like when I'm in the studio and I'm just rapping on some shit or making a beat or singing, even if I'm strumming a guitar and playing, like no matter what it is, it's the creative process because it's something new, it's something different or it's something familiar, but you're trying it in a different way.

Speaker 11 My favorite thing about music to this day, I actually hate that I have to release music. It's like a thing.
It's weird. It's like, I don't like releasing it because so many people don't get it.

Speaker 11 They think they do or they want to say what it is or what it isn't. And then it becomes this thing on Twitter.
And it's just like a, you know, everyone's just herded.

Speaker 11 My favorite part of music is after I just made a song or dropped a verse or did something really crazy.

Speaker 11 And my friend or my wife or my producer or my engineer or whatever, somebody's listening to it for the first time. And they're over over there and

Speaker 11 they're sitting and I'm like this the whole time. As soon as I hit play, I'm like this.

Speaker 11 And I'm just, I'm looking at them. And then there's like a crazy punchline.
I'm feeling close to the cliff, like Rig Dalton in the booth. And they're like, oh, and they don't even look at me.

Speaker 11 And I'm like, oh,

Speaker 11 like, it's just such an incredible feeling because I didn't fucking make it for some douche on the internet. I made it for myself.
I made it for my friends.

Speaker 11 I made it for the people that understand it, not the people that because I'm

Speaker 11 hate this but like a famous person so that everybody just wants to have a say in what's good and what's not what's this and what's that and that's what i mean when it comes to releasing music that's like the hardest part because you know there was times in my career where it's like i'm in an arena there's 22 000 people here screaming every lyric of like this really popping song i just put out or whatever something fun and then you go on the internet and everyone's just shitting on that song so it's like a really funny dynamic to see real life as opposed to that So my favorite part, my favorite part is, yes, the creation.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I actually think what you just said, so I saw a clip, I think it was Ethan Hawk was talking about it recently, how

Speaker 5 we as a culture have kind of ruined creative things because it becomes like a competition where like, oh,

Speaker 5 the Rotten Tomatoes score on this movie isn't good. So like, why would we enjoy it? Like, no, you enjoy what you enjoy.
Like, even us from a podcasting perspective, like, some people don't like us.

Speaker 5 Well, guess what? That's okay. You don't have to like us.
You, it's not for you. You know what I mean? The podcast is not for you.

Speaker 5 So I do get what you're kind of saying that, like, there's, there's a level of like people will just shit on something or make it like, hey, it's not the best of all time, or where does it rank?

Speaker 5 It's like, that's not what this is about.

Speaker 11 It isn't. And I think that's the funny part is like.

Speaker 11 It's almost like I've had I've had like fans like back when I was on the internet and reading every little thing like on Reddit be like his you can tell his heart wasn't in this and blah blah, blah.

Speaker 11 And they're like saying all this shit. And I'm like, dude, if my heart wasn't in it,

Speaker 11 I wouldn't have put it out in the first place. Like, yeah, maybe this is a song about me talking about like smoking dope and counting money on this record.

Speaker 11 And I'm not talking about introspective, you know, crazy shit like I like I do over here. But it's just like, bro, I'm multifaceted.
I'm a human being.

Speaker 11 Like, just because I'm rapping about having fun or singing. Like, dude, I dropped this.
I had a book called Supermarket and I dropped it a couple years ago.

Speaker 11 And I did a soundtrack soundtrack for it, and so it's like this whole like indie rock soundtrack thing. And it's fun, I think it's really good.

Speaker 11 And I think the music I'm making now is way better, but it's like you have to start somewhere. So after being like this top-tier rapper, I was like, oh, let me, let me start over here.

Speaker 11 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I have reverence and love and respect, and I'm a fan of this, but I want to try it.
And that's another place where I'm growing.

Speaker 11 And I get to watch myself get better and sing better and literally like shred on the guitar and like all and and learn this and then people are like sucks like

Speaker 11 it's like okay like I but at least I'm doing something that I love like isn't it better to do that

Speaker 11 than than I look you guys do this podcast because you're genuinely passionate about it I'm sure it makes you some good fucking money too and that's not bad but it's like come on man if you didn't want to do it you wouldn't be doing it and it's the same reason like I don't know the next time I'm going on tour.

Speaker 11 You know why? Because I don't fucking feel like it. And it's, it's my therapist, she calls it value over fear.
It's like, what do you value?

Speaker 11 Do you value slaving away and having thoughts of like low-key wanting to kill yourself in a hotel room because you're utterly unhappy, because you have no personal life whatsoever in the last 10 years of your life?

Speaker 11 It's just been this one thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 11 Are you just going to continue to do that thing out of fear that you might not be relevant or might not be as rich or might not be as are you going to value the fact that if you step away from this portion of your life

Speaker 11 you may be no you will be so much happier though you might not be as famous you might not be as rich like who gives a shit man and that's where i had to come to terms with that for myself because it wasn't it wasn't good for my mental health man like

Speaker 11 It came up like you want to talk about doing something that your heart is in? My heart was in walking away from that shit.

Speaker 11 Not being on stage rapping a million miles a minute while I'm also like ribbity, hibbity, flippity, stibbity. I wonder if the hotel's got a good shower.
I can't wait to get the fuck off the stage.

Speaker 11 Like, you know what I mean? You got to do what you love, bro.

Speaker 5 That's in a

Speaker 5 very like a smaller version of value over fear. I feel like anyone who's gone through their 20s,

Speaker 5 we're both 36, but anyone's gone through their 20s reaches that point where it's like, oh, I don't have to go out and drink a million beers.

Speaker 5 I could maybe just hang out at home and I would be really happy that that I wake up the next day not hungover.

Speaker 5 Like, that's that's as simple as it is, but it really is like that value over fear, not not missing, not being like, oh, I'm gonna miss out on all this shit. I'm gonna be a pussy.

Speaker 5 I'm gonna do all that. Like, no, I could just be myself.

Speaker 11 I mean, you said it, dude. I can't even mic drop.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 5 It's crazy. Like, when I learned that a weekend has two like full days in it.
Yeah, right. It's not Saturday and then like half of Sunday.
I also think that you're, how old is your kid?

Speaker 11 19 months, a year and a half.

Speaker 5 Okay, yeah, because I have a two-year-old and a three-month-old, and I feel like we're very similar in that, like, that like adjustment in your brain is happening, which is hard to explain unless you've gone through it.

Speaker 11 Unless you've gone through it, 100%. I mean, my son coming into this world was just such a giant change.

Speaker 11 It's so cliche.

Speaker 5 Everything you say, all the cliches, they're true. They're true.

Speaker 11 It's just, it's so true. Like, I don't give a shit, man.

Speaker 5 Yeah. If I was on the road, I was on the road this month.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Yeah.
I just, I just want to do what makes me happy. And what makes me happy is making music when I feel like it, putting it out when I feel like it.

Speaker 11 My main focus now is acting and film because it makes me happy. And

Speaker 11 while focusing on writing scripts and acting and setting up movies and producing and all this other shit, I'm spending... a kajillion more times than I ever have before,

Speaker 11 excuse me, at home with my family. And mind you, I never had a family.
I don't have a family. And now I finally do.

Speaker 11 I've had brothers in the sense of like my homies who I came up with, and we're all still close and tight, and we work together. But I'm talking about like a blood family.
Like, I never had that.

Speaker 11 And now that I have it and I've worked my whole life for this and made decisions to be the best man that I could hope to be to be a good dad, what am I going to do?

Speaker 11 Be like, all right, I got to go hang out with P. Diddy.

Speaker 5 Like, you know, like

Speaker 11 I'm going to be with my boy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Um, all right. I have two other questions.
Uh, I would hang out with P.

Speaker 11 Diddy, though.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say,

Speaker 5 do both. Baddies do both.
Like, you're, I mean, your son sleeps a lot. I know 19-month-olds, yeah, they sleep a lot.
You could go like at like seven o'clock and go hang out with P.

Speaker 5 Diddy for a few hours.

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Speaker 5 Do you still email with Neil deGrasse Tyson?

Speaker 11 Damn, you know what? I should text him. I got his number,

Speaker 11 but no, I haven't talked to him in a while. It's probably been like a year and a half.
I think I just texted him and was just like, hey, man, like, hope you're well.

Speaker 11 Like, you know, but yeah, no, I haven't really talked to him in a while.

Speaker 5 Can you text him at some point, just like when you're watching the Olympics on television and

Speaker 5 the pool is white. They paint the pool white, and the water is clear, but it looks blue.
We've been struggling with that for like a week and a half right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 yeah,

Speaker 5 fucks you up.

Speaker 11 I mean, I don't know. Is it something in the water?

Speaker 5 No, the water's clear. I thought it was the bottom of the pool, but I was told I was wrong.
People are saying it's the lights. I don't fucking know.

Speaker 5 I think Neil's the only person that knows. Yeah, we got gotta get.
We've had him on the show. We gotta get him back on to ask him.

Speaker 11 That's funny, actually. Yeah, I have no,

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 5 All right. And then my other question was:

Speaker 5 can you still do a Rubik's Cube fast?

Speaker 5 Oh, here he goes.

Speaker 11 It's so funny that I have one here.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. That is so funny.
So random.

Speaker 11 No, I swear to God.

Speaker 5 Right. Every interview.

Speaker 5 It's right next to your microphone for you to do that. No, dude, I swear.
All right, let's see here.

Speaker 11 I'm going.

Speaker 5 All right, here he goes.

Speaker 5 Oh, wow. He's stuck.
He's ripping off the stickers. That's not how you do it.
Oh.

Speaker 11 Hold on. We're almost there.

Speaker 5 Almost there.

Speaker 11 Not yet.

Speaker 5 Not yet.

Speaker 5 This is great podcasting. Yeah, and there it was.
So that was like 30 seconds.

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 11 That is so weird. I swear.
It's so rare.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It is.

Speaker 11 I promise you.

Speaker 11 I haven't done a Rubik's Cube in an interview in like

Speaker 11 four or five years. That was like my thing.
I was like, yeah, bitch, I'm a nerd. Sci-fi raps.
Check it out.

Speaker 5 Well, you're back now. That's a pretty solid Rubik's Cube, too.
Just like we've had a Rubik's Cube expert on the show, and I can tell that's a fast cube.

Speaker 5 That's not like one that you just buy at a Kmart.

Speaker 11 Bro, I bought like

Speaker 11 probably $900 worth of Rubik's Cubes and Speed cubes, which is actually a lot. But you wouldn't think about it, but it's like $900.

Speaker 11 It's like, bro, these things are like maybe 20 bucks, like not even for like a speed cube. And like, I was so into it, bro.
I was so like, that's why I'm a freak.

Speaker 11 Anything I do or get into or love or I'm passionate about, I have to like, I obsess over it and I have to master it. I used to do this Rubik's Cube for

Speaker 11 maybe eight hours a day. Like I would just do it and do it.
My hands would hurt and shit and I'd be feeling like an old man, like, I had arthritis, and I couldn't, it was like hard to sleep.

Speaker 11 I have a problem.

Speaker 5 Damn.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Just my last, last question.
Have you ever, it sounds like you like to make music for yourself as much as for anybody else?

Speaker 5 Like, to scratch whatever creative itch is going on inside your head at that given time.

Speaker 5 You feel inspired, you want to go create something, you listen to it back, you see somebody else enjoy it, and you're like, that's great. I'm glad I did that.

Speaker 5 Have you ever come up with a really sick song and just been like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not going to let anybody else ever listen to this.

Speaker 5 This is going to be my song that only I get to listen to. You know, like keep it for yourself.

Speaker 11 Yeah. I have

Speaker 11 thousands of those songs.

Speaker 5 That's awesome. So you should just start saying, like, actually, my best stuff that I've ever done, not release.

Speaker 5 You don't get to hear it.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I already say that. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, man, because over my career, it's like I've created thousands and thousands of songs. And

Speaker 11 there's some really great shit. Like, even when I was like 18, like that's really good.

Speaker 11 There's also stuff at 18 that's horrible, but there's some shit that's like, yo, it's just me and this beat and these raps, and this shit is tight, and nobody's ever heard it, and I don't know that they ever will.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so how do you decide that?

Speaker 5 If there's a song that you make that you're really proud of and you know it's a great song, how do you decide, okay, I'm, you know what, I'm going to keep this one for myself.

Speaker 11 Well, I think today I don't, it's weird. It's like, I don't really hold on to stuff.
So I don't, I don't do that now. I think I did it back then because

Speaker 11 there was something about it that wasn't right

Speaker 11 to put out. There was some reason that I didn't want it to be out, even though I may have loved it.
Maybe it just didn't fit that project. And I'm like, oh, the next one.

Speaker 11 And then the next one comes and I forgot about it. And then I look back five years and I'm like, well, to me, this is dated.
Like, I don't even want to, I don't want it now.

Speaker 11 I don't want anybody to hear it so that's kind of how it happens um which you could say still happens to this to to this day i guess excuse me but i'm not like intentionally holding stuff for myself um because i think if i am proud of it i do want the world um to hear it or at least the people that i am making it for you know these like-minded individuals that i would hope that they would enjoy it so maybe just martin skrelli yeah let him pay three million dollars for it

Speaker 11 he might not know who he is no isn't that the Wu-Tang guy?

Speaker 5 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 All right, because that was before you quit the internet.

Speaker 5 True, yeah. Yeah.
All right. Well, Logic, thank you so much.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Check out Bobby's book, This Bright Future, coming September 7th. So go check it out.
Memoir. Gonna be awesome.
And we really appreciate your time, man.

Speaker 11 Thank you guys so much for having me.

Speaker 11 This is really cool. It's so funny because like

Speaker 11 my homies like all know, and I've just always been like an off-the-internet kind of guy. And so it's cool to meet you guys.
I've heard of you for so long, and it's cool to be here.

Speaker 11 So, thank you for having me. Um, and I just appreciate you asking genuinely dope-ass questions.
Bean Dad, I don't know what the fuck that is.

Speaker 5 Yep, but the guy who came out is cats. Yeah, we'll fill you up.

Speaker 5 Listen, just do me, do us a favor. You don't have to go on the internet, just subscribe to our YouTube and then just walk away from the computer.

Speaker 11 No, I do have YouTube. I watch YouTube because sometimes I like to watch watch funny videos like watching people die inside.
Yeah. Episode like 4,000.
Like, I love that. So I'll subscribe.

Speaker 5 Okay. All right.
Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

Speaker 11 Good to meet you, man. All right, you guys.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's going on there, pal?

Speaker 4 We saw you at the hockey game on. Do I know you guys? I'm Ryan Whitney.
I got a drink named after me. Not a big deal.
Pink Whitney?

Speaker 5 That's what I thought. See you, fellas.

Speaker 2 I invented the thing, you pigeon. Pink Whitney for legendary moments.

Speaker 5 Now here's Deion Sanders.

Speaker 11 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 5 Okay, we now welcome on a very good friend of ours, co-worker, also coach. It is Coach Prime, Deion Sanders,

Speaker 5 off of a

Speaker 5 huge, huge victory on ESPN 2, 7-6, a shootout.

Speaker 5 I texted you after the game.

Speaker 5 I saw that when I was in New Jersey. It's like plus eight is a disrespectful line for Coach Prime.
So huge first win. You got to explain to me what that means because you know I don't know.

Speaker 5 I know you don't know. It means that you guys were getting eight points.
So you could have lost by seven and I still would have won. You won outright, so I was happy.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 5 I think the biggest question, though, coming off the game is: what was the conversation with Gilly after he got your team a 15-yard penalty for spiking a football on a play that actually

Speaker 5 got overturned and came back anyway?

Speaker 11 First of all, I still don't know how

Speaker 5 we got a penalty

Speaker 5 because

Speaker 5 it was after the play. Right.

Speaker 5 And I don't know how we could be penalized after the play. And you can't assess a person on the sideline to us.
But what happened was. You barely know him.
That's what I told the referee.

Speaker 5 You got to understand. This is a true story.
Right here. This is true.

Speaker 5 The referee came to me and said, your kids all left the sidelines, which I'm assuming that's the penalty because the whole team ran down to the sideline. You can't do, you can't do that.

Speaker 5 That's illegal. So, I'm getting on my team's butt, just going off on them, just letting them have it.

Speaker 5 After the game, I get on the plane and I finally check my phone. I'm looking at my phone and I'm saying,

Speaker 5 Gilly spiked the ball.

Speaker 5 When did that happen?

Speaker 5 Oh my God. I didn't find out that happened until until i was on the plane

Speaker 5 i didn't know it happened so i called gilly today i said gilly i talked to the commissioner of uh the swack

Speaker 5 you're suspended for four games

Speaker 5 you can't come back to uh homecoming and uh your spike was horrible yep it was it was your spike was horrible it was bad but you've uh the good news is that you're

Speaker 5 you're you're mainstream now yeah you're trendy yeah

Speaker 5 it was so funny for people who didn't see so it was a a scoop and score that got caught.

Speaker 5 I actually agree with you that if the call gets reversed and the touchdown doesn't stand, then everything that happens after it shouldn't stand either. Like, the touchdown didn't exist.

Speaker 5 So the celebration shouldn't exist because those go hand in hand. But Killy is sprinting down the sideline, and then one of the players hands him the ball, and he's literally on the field spiking it.

Speaker 5 They get a 15-yard penalty. It was very funny.
It was very funny. It was hilarious.
It was funnier because we know Gilly. Yes.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 5 That's what made it funnier because how did you even get in this situation? He said, Brian, he handed me the ball. What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 5 So that's the relationship that Gilly has with our team because he and Wallow spoke to the team before the game.

Speaker 5 That is hilarious. Only we can appreciate that because we know Gilly and Wallow.
Yeah. And it was very funny.

Speaker 5 You could see that, like, you know, obviously your team isn't going to give a ball to somebody they don't care about.

Speaker 5 They care about Gilly because of the impact that he's had and the speeches that that he's given. But Gilly was also extremely out of position to begin with on that touchdown.

Speaker 5 I saw how fast he was running. He's probably pushing like a, I don't know, a six, seven second 40.
And I think Gilly could break five. You think

Speaker 5 five, what? Minutes? No, I think he could break a five flat 40.

Speaker 5 It was raining. It was wet.
It was wet. And he didn't have the right bleats on.
But

Speaker 5 he kept up.

Speaker 5 He kept up. I just couldn't believe it happened to find out on the plane that really happened.
Yes. Yeah.
So what about the other big story coming out of it?

Speaker 5 Your son, we recruited him to go play for you.

Speaker 5 Great his performance. Which one? Which one? I was going to say, Shiloh, my question was, Shiloh, who taught him how to hit? Because it wasn't you.
His dad. Did you see these hits? Oh,

Speaker 5 he laid the lumber a couple times during that game when I was like

Speaker 5 weird.

Speaker 5 At least three times. That wasn't you.
You didn't teach him how to hit. It wasn't me.
I taught him everything.

Speaker 5 I also taught him how to have longevity see that doesn't hit like that is not longevity right

Speaker 5 right i usually hit like that until i got to the nfl yes yes but no but pft so so your other son's playing so yeah grade your quarterback because like that's that was a he was an impact player you he was gonna you know come in you guys were gonna i give him my son

Speaker 5 okay

Speaker 5 okay that's because

Speaker 5 he

Speaker 5 you know, two foremost, he told me at the halftime, it's funny at the halftime, I'm saying, you got your junk straight, you know, because you you stalk it up, right? That's the way we talk.

Speaker 5 He said, okay,

Speaker 5 I realize that I'm not Lamar Jackson. And we just bust out laughing.
He said that at halftime, I realized I'm not Lamar. I said, cool.
Thank you. Let's proceed.
But you got to think about it.

Speaker 5 He was 18 for 24. We had three drops.
So he would have been 21 for 24.

Speaker 5 And no, you know, no turnovers or interceptions or whatever. But some of the reads and some of the plays that he checked us into to get us out of trouble were phenomenal.

Speaker 5 We missed a couple reads, but overall,

Speaker 5 I say B minus. Okay.
That's not bad for the first time that you get meaningful action in a game. Yeah.
Like, and you said, what, like 18 for 24, three drops? Three drops. Not bad.

Speaker 5 He's kind of got a cannon on his arm. Like, he had a couple throws that impressed me.
I was like, okay, this kid can actually sling the ball. Well, he's very accurate.
That's the best thing.

Speaker 5 He's very accurate, and he's a smart. He's a smart guy.
He wasn't smart keeping the dern ball trying to be Lamar Jackson the other day. That was stupid.
Well, other than that, he was great.

Speaker 5 The kids played great. Not my kids.
The defense was lights out. Awesome.
The defense was all over the place. Dennis Thurman, the whole defensive coaching staff did a phenomenal job.

Speaker 5 Offensively, we should have put up at least 21, 25, 26 points. Do you want to say for the record, like, do you want to execute your players after this game?

Speaker 5 You know what to think about? It's getting so bad now. We can't even say anything.
Like, we have to really censor ourselves because you can't even make a mistake.

Speaker 5 You can't even make a mistake anymore without being persecuted. Yeah, I just feel like maybe don't say that you're going to kill your players.
Anything up to that line.

Speaker 5 You can't have, you got to have the personality. Like I could get in the press conference and say, you know what? I wanted three students to slap my whole team.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I could get away with that because that's my personality.

Speaker 5 So my other question about the game was, could you see? Because those sunglasses, I don't think you could see. I don't think you were watching the game.
You sure?

Speaker 5 I don't know which ones I wore.

Speaker 5 They were clean, too. They were awesome.

Speaker 5 I got a lot of feedback on those glasses, and I guarantee you they probably went over $12.

Speaker 5 Oh, man. Those were good.
Those look good. Those look good.
So

Speaker 5 you also, the Coach Prime documentary finished last week. Everyone should go watch it.
It's on YouTube. I love it.
It was awesome. It was great.
Dana Beers. Yeah.
Dana Beers.

Speaker 5 The whole crew put their foot in it. They did a great job.
That's what I was going to ask because it's an awesome, awesome documentary.

Speaker 5 If you basically, everything that we miss about hard knocks, they did well with with coach prime like you can you get to see an embedded uh you know camera staff with the team all year long everything that's going on and there's going to be another season so it's going to keep going so so it's worth it to get invested in it but yeah is there ever a time where you're like

Speaker 5 the beers guy is is is is running this like yeah

Speaker 5 doing the editing doing the editing um i text uh sam my guy here and when when he was chugging we'll just pause in the middle and i text him and say this is our producer

Speaker 5 yes this is the guy that we're dependent on right now are you concerned are you concerned about his uh his roller coaster ballooning like wait sometimes he'll show up and be like he's a good man here yep here in jackson mississippi he's a good man Like when you guys get a hold of him, you guys just tear him to shreds.

Speaker 5 I start hearing from Mama. I call him Mama Beers.
His mom calls me and say,

Speaker 5 We got to do something. We got to do something.
But here, he's a whole different guy.

Speaker 5 I like that. I like that.
So, what else we got planned for this season? I mean, obviously, you want to know

Speaker 5 what's, you know, oh, is he here right here? Hey, there he is. Hey, Dana, you look great.
Dana, credit to me. I just asked you.
He just got finished talking about you.

Speaker 5 So he's saying you look great now. He just got finished talking about you.
Well, no, I want to say it to Dana. I'll say it to his face.
Credit to me, Dana. Yeah, watch out.
Your tits are popping.

Speaker 5 That's a bad angle. That's a bad angle.
Credit to me, Dana. I just asked Dion

Speaker 5 about Coach Prime, and I didn't call you an alcoholic.

Speaker 5 You know what? I'm not doing it. Credit to me.

Speaker 5 Credit to me. Credit to you.
Dana, come back.

Speaker 5 You know what he looks like? Bring him back on camera just for one. Credit to me.
Just come back on camera. He cut the mullet for us.
Look, he looks like if Alexander Ovetchkin got stung by bees,

Speaker 5 you gotta hit with a shovel. Somebody's doing this.
Someone hit you with a shovel last night?

Speaker 5 Can you not bet? You're my producer.

Speaker 5 We want people to respect the doc come on man good lord we love dana i love dana but he's a mess you know he's a mess yeah he's not a mess he's a lovable mess he's a good man so so tennessee state next week what are we feeling eddie george eddie george yes that's right

Speaker 5 eddie george it's another big classic it's going to be huge uh evening game I'm excited. I'm really excited about the possibilities.
I really am. I can't wait.
I can't wait.

Speaker 5 We're actually going up early. We're going up Thursday evening after practice and probably take the kids to a movie.
I'll do some recruiting Friday and get ready to get down Saturday. All right.

Speaker 5 Love it. There was one other part of the game I want to ask you about.

Speaker 5 Have you talked to your band after the game about, like, hey, maybe let's not play music when we're inside our own 20 and we're trying to run a play?

Speaker 5 You got, I think you got two delay of games because your band was playing.

Speaker 5 This is the things that that's why I'm so thankful that we got a documentary by Bar Stools and Coach Brian because you get to hear all the realness of this, how we felt when when we like, what is wrong?

Speaker 5 It's so many things that you have no idea that it's a first here.

Speaker 5 Like a lot of this stuff, talking to the band, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a first about, hey, you know, you can't play when we have the ball and we're in

Speaker 5 inside the 10-yard line. You can't go challenging the other band when we have the ball.
Secondly, another first, this is going to blow your mind.

Speaker 5 This is going to blow your mind, Dan. This is the first time in the history of Jackson State that the kids have had the names on the back of the jerseys.
Oh, though, the jerseys look clean.

Speaker 5 The helmets were awesome. This is first time.

Speaker 5 We have several different helmets,

Speaker 5 several different uniforms, but this is the first that the kids had their name on the back of the jerseys. That's cool.
And there's no one else in HBCU has their names on the back of the jersey.

Speaker 5 And I don't know why. We're like an extra $5 each, man.
Yeah. Before we get it up to really bless these kids.
Yeah, and I saw also Strayhan

Speaker 5 hooked everyone up with suits. You guys,

Speaker 5 it really, you see it.

Speaker 5 We're filming it right now. You look good.
You feel good. Like you embody it because your team looks good.
We're about it.

Speaker 5 Stray did a great job with Smack Entertainment, the measurement company, Constance, and the crew.

Speaker 5 They had us looking good, man. We got off that plane and Under Armour does their job.

Speaker 5 We've taken this thing to new heights and we're just going to keep going and going. And just the exposure that you guys are giving us is phenomenal, man.
I love it. No one gets this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no one gets this.

Speaker 5 By the way,

Speaker 5 Jackson State did technically lose the Battle of the Bands because I don't know if you saw. Well, I don't know if you saw a Florida AM.
They did, they simulated dunking a basketball at halftime.

Speaker 5 It was fucking sick. It was awesome.
Their band is legendary. Now, you do know the Marching 100.

Speaker 5 It was awesome. So the Sonny Boom, we didn't lose, did we? Please don't tell me that.
If you look up this clip, it was so cool what they did with the basketball. It was so cool.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 I don't believe it. I thought I saw a 305 305 on the

Speaker 5 it's okay. You guys get better, you know.
There's room to get better. It's good.
You put it on tape. Well, only one band forced two false starts this weekend.
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 5 They can't claim that. Yeah, that is true.
The impact.

Speaker 5 You guys actually got in the stack book. The first band to ever do that.

Speaker 5 That is true. You know what? I'm liking it.
I'm going to get to it before you guys get to it. I'm really liking Green Bay.
Oh,

Speaker 5 really? To win the Super Bowl? I'm really liking Green Bay.

Speaker 5 I'm really liking

Speaker 5 Josh Allen.

Speaker 5 No. Baker Mayfield.
They're not rich. Oh, definitely not.
I'm really liking Baltimore

Speaker 5 for some reason.

Speaker 5 I'm really liking Kansas City because they're upset and they're going to be a lot more focused.

Speaker 5 There's got to be something. If Baker Mayfield, if the Cleveland Browns win the AFC North this year, you have to get like, I don't know.
You have to actually, you know what?

Speaker 5 You'll have to dress in full pads with a Baker Mayfield. Like, we'll get you a full brown.

Speaker 5 But I will wear a Baker shirt. No, you'll wear a jersey.
Jersey. You'll wear a jersey with full pads, and we'll tackle you.
I'm not going to wear full pads. Yeah.
I don't wear wearing full pads.

Speaker 5 I'm actually playing in the game and I'm getting compensated. Actually, that was my last question.

Speaker 5 Have you like, so the sidelines are awesome. You have T.O.s out there.
I saw Chad Johnson out there.

Speaker 5 Devin Hester?

Speaker 5 Devin Hester, I saw yes, yes. In the

Speaker 5 Revis was by.

Speaker 5 Did Reed was by.

Speaker 5 It don't stop.

Speaker 5 Have you thought of, like, have any of them asked you, like, hey, Coach Prime, can we just, can we just put a jersey on me and like a fake name and let me let me get out there for a minute?

Speaker 5 You mean like the high school team? Yes, yes. Bishop Sycamore.
Yes. Have any of them asked that? True story.
Last year when I was coaching high school, We had a game scheduled against Bishop Sycamore.

Speaker 5 Oh, wow. And they had to get out of it.
They couldn't make the travel plans or whatever. But we had a game scheduled against Bishop Sycamore.
I'm glad we didn't make it. Yes.

Speaker 5 I'm glad everything fell through. Yeah.
Because they probably would have been playing against my dad. Yes.
Yeah, you would have smashed him, though. And he's not alive.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they have the fake records. Everyone's out there.

Speaker 5 I would have, I have a feeling Chad Johnson has maybe said something. And T.O.
being like, let me just get out there. Like, I'll wear a different jersey.
No one will know. Maybe not the ESPN2 games.

Speaker 5 T.O. would do it.
Yeah. T.O.
would do it.

Speaker 5 T.O., I said T-A. T.O.
would do it. Speaking of T.O., and

Speaker 5 he's not one of the guys, but my phone don't stop for rough rowdy. Yeah.
Snoop. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Snoop called. We got to take this thing to notice.
We got to have a rough and rowdy meeting because all my guys won't end. And Pac-Man wants to square up against Ocho Sinco now.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He said he was glad that they didn't fight.

Speaker 5 We can't let that happen. We can't fight each other.
Yeah. And

Speaker 5 credit to your guy, Pac-Man. I went to his hotel suite and I got my $1,000.
Oh, Pac a stand-up guy. Yeah,

Speaker 5 I walked in. It was very awkward, but I walked in, asked for $1,000, and he gave it to me.
And we took a picture. We took a shot.
It was a great time.

Speaker 5 You mean it was awkward because you were the minority? Yeah, well, it was.

Speaker 5 Also, it's just weird to walk in and ask someone who just lost a fight like, hey, can I get $1,000? Did you get $1,000?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hey, brother, can you give me that grand please?

Speaker 5 I won, you lost. Give me that thousand.
No, yeah. Mike is a stand-up guy, though.
I'm pretty sure he just parked the right over. Yeah, no, he's a good guy.
He's a good guy. But yes, we will.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, Coach Prime, we'll have you back on a bunch this year.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Everyone go check it out. Yeah, everyone, go check out Coach Prime on YouTube.
Watch it.

Speaker 5 It seriously is unbelievable. I can't believe

Speaker 5 the Beers guy is behind. The Beers guy's good.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He is very good. Keep him away from the catfish.
He cannot be touched when he's focused. Yeah, no, he's very good.

Speaker 5 It's just crazy that you're like, all right, this guy's, he's the beers guy, and he put together like an incredible documentary. But yeah, yeah, he's the beers by night.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But he's, I call him Dana Dane by day. And he's like Clark Kitten Superman.
Yeah. He's actually the only person that's moved to Mississippi and gotten rid of a mullet.

Speaker 5 So you're doing some kind of magic on that. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That is a great statement.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, thanks so much.
Okay. And I hear he's dating a sister, but that's that's not.
You didn't hear that. Oh, all right, Dana.
There you go. All right, guys.
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Speaker 5 Sucks that Brooks' match got canceled, but that will happen. I'm just glad that he's alive.
Same with me. Same with me.

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Speaker 8 If your boss is not providing you what you need to complete your job, what is the best way to go to their boss to advise them of this?

Speaker 8 But at the same time, without your boss finding out it was you who went above them?

Speaker 5 That's a good question. Billy.
That's tricky. You can say it to me.

Speaker 5 He wasn't listening. Billy, would we all agree that Billy would definitely go above us?

Speaker 5 I think Billy Billy would say go on your boss's boss's podcast and then talk to them about the issues and make it public. That way, it's transparency.

Speaker 5 I would say,

Speaker 5 ooh, this is impossible.

Speaker 5 Do people do anonymous letters anymore?

Speaker 5 HR? What about just... No.
HR, I don't trust HR. HR is spies.
Here's what I would do. And this is kind of a life lesson for anything.
If you want to say something,

Speaker 5 just walk by that person and sigh really loud in their ear. And then they basically have to ask, what's up?

Speaker 5 And then you're like, well, since you asked,

Speaker 5 I hate my boss and you should fire them. That's not a bad idea.
Or learn how to throw your voice. Be a ventriloquist.
Walk by and then from across the room, be like, hey, hey, Mary really sucks ass.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And then be like, oh, who said that? But I get, I mean, I guess it's true.
Mary does suck ass. Yes, I like that.

Speaker 8 Hi, Big Cat and PFT. My condolences condolences to Fat Larry Six.
Nope.

Speaker 5 Nope.

Speaker 5 I disavow your condolences. I resend them.
I take them back.

Speaker 8 I am being considered for a promotion to a manager position and have an interview coming up soon. I think I have a good chance to land the job, but I think my company could see me as too young.

Speaker 8 What are some tips you guys could give me to let the bosses know I'm mature enough for this position?

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 5 Rule number one in the interview.

Speaker 5 Use my old trick, which is just say, my understanding is, before you start any sentence, It automatically makes you sound 10 times smarter. Never say, I think, or I thought.

Speaker 5 Just say, my understanding is. And people will be like, damn, that person is good at business.
Or studies say.

Speaker 5 Yeah, many studies. Studies say.

Speaker 5 It just came out that... Yes, right, right.
So there's breaking news. Uh-huh.

Speaker 5 Whatever you do, don't try to use your youth as an advantage and propose it that way, or your bosses might think that you're old, shaming them.

Speaker 5 I mean, the real answer. We don't think it, we knew it.
The real answer is, you don't want to become manager. Right.

Speaker 5 Like, just everybody out there right now, just stay in the same job that you're at, right? Live life and enjoy it. Yes.
New experiences, very overrated in the office.

Speaker 8 I worked at an apartment complex that knew the entire building would flood, but wanted us to lease the apartments anyways without telling anyone.

Speaker 5 Oh.

Speaker 8 I quit because I can't lie like that and didn't align with my moral compass. Good for you.

Speaker 8 Now I'm having trouble getting another job because I don't want to trash talk my old company, so it looks like I'm just a quitter.

Speaker 8 I don't know how to explain why I quit without saying they're scumbags. How would you explain quitting in that situation?

Speaker 5 Say they're scumbags. It's your old if they're actual scumbags say they're scumbags.
Then you like that's I think you're telling the truth. It sounds like they're not a team player big cat.

Speaker 5 If they were truly scumbags and they were like we're gonna just rent this and hope everyone gets flooded and not care. Say that.
I think you just have to rebrand yourself.

Speaker 5 You just have to say like, I was a whistleblower.

Speaker 5 If you call yourself a whistleblower, then they'll be like, wow, thank you for your service. Yeah, just go and be like,

Speaker 5 I got blackballed. Straight up.

Speaker 5 you and blake bordles both

Speaker 8 uh i'm straight out of college and still learning the ropes every now and then i'll act i'm still learning the ropes and every now and then i'll accidentally make a mistake my boss would try to get try giving me a lesson but tries to play it off like he doesn't care about the mistake but i can tell he cares a lot he definitely does so his lessons just come off very passive aggressively i'm a man and don't need this passive aggressive shit how can i get my boss to realize he just either needs to yell at me like he means it or completely play it off like it's a joke no in-between passive aggressive stuff Okay, I like where this guy's heads at because this dude obviously used to play football.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And he's like, I'm sick of somebody trying to like explain to me in a constructive manner how to just scream at me.
That's how I learned just how I learned. Call me an asshole.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I think what you need to do is you need to act like a football player that needs to be disciplined. So you just have to like...

Speaker 5 You almost have to like start it at your boss and just like let your boss hear you cuss. If it's like at your computer, you have to be like, God damn it.

Speaker 5 And then hope that he hears that and then hope that he kicks into football coach mode.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if you go up to him and just tell him, like, hey, I respond well to discipline and hard coaching,

Speaker 5 either he's going to do that, or he's going to try to fuck you. Like,

Speaker 5 but at least it'll get solved. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 8 All right, last one. This is actually not really guys.
I'm checks related, but it's football related. Hey, everyone, I'm in this huge predicament.

Speaker 8 My flag football league at my college only has three people in it, and the first game is next Wednesday.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 8 I just recently transferred here and figured they would at least have more than three people, including myself.

Speaker 8 I just want to run rilots and throw some dimes competitively, and I'm upset I'm not going to be able to do it. You guys have anything that will help me cope with this loss? Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 8 Football is officially back.

Speaker 5 It sounds like your friends are losers. He doesn't have friends.
Yeah, but three people. Was it three people? Oh, yeah.
But I think three people in the whole school.

Speaker 8 He thought he was going to sign up for intermurals

Speaker 8 and meet friends.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 he not only doesn't have friends, but he went to a loser school. Yeah, you need to transfer out of Williams immediately because that place is not meant for football.
Toxic. It's toxic to your growth.

Speaker 5 It's honestly like, can you imagine attending a school that only had three people that wanted to play football at it?

Speaker 5 Insane. Not me.

Speaker 5 Not me. I would feel unsafe in that environment.
You know, that sucks. I don't really know what...
I don't know what you do.

Speaker 8 I would say, you know, depending on how hard you want to try, you could be like, you know, the nasmith of your school.

Speaker 5 True.

Speaker 8 You could start making some flyers, banging on doors, being like, hey, you guys want to play it? Because there's got to be more people at the school who feel the same way.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But they're just not vocalizing it.

Speaker 5 They need a leader. They need a leader.
They need somebody to speak up. Right.
Billy. They may have a tackle football team.
Oh. You could look at.
Yeah, you could look for that. Play actual football.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
I like that. But yeah, they take a look at the leadership.
Pretty much.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they need a leader. That sucks.
Three people for an entire Intramural League. He might say something.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I feel like he just signed up for the wrong thing.

Speaker 5 Yeah, what do you?

Speaker 5 Is he at school with like 20 people?

Speaker 5 That's what's the email address? Is it at EDU?

Speaker 8 It's a text message, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 Okay, Okay.

Speaker 5 Does he go to Slippery Rock? He goes to Slippery Rock. You know, in that school? Where is he? Which one is that? Utah.
What about Reed? Do you go to Reed College? You have a small college.

Speaker 5 You smoke and you had a drug problem. You're addicted to drugs.
He's addicted to drugs. He had a drug problem.
Do you do drugs a lot?

Speaker 5 Sex problem. All right.
Numbers? Or Billy? You got any recap?

Speaker 5 Now we're pretty good. All right.
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That's sick. That is pretty cool.

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