Jerry O'Connell, We Had Field Yates Help Us Get Mike Florio Again + Bryson, Mets And Cut Day In The NFL

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Whoa. Oh, boy.
Hey, somebody wake up the guy from Green Day.

Yep.

Football is back.

No, wait.

When is it?

Oh, it's when September ends.

Yeah.

And then also, what's the Rod Stewart?

But make sure that you wake him up.

It's late September, and I think I should be back at school.

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We've done it again, boys.

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It's 11-11 right now. It's 11-11.
Make a wish. I wish that Hard Knocks was over.
Yeah, and it is. And there's still another episode.
We're not going to. They did kind of screw us because they put all the cuts for next week.

Yep.

Usually, traditionally, when there are four preseason games,

we get to see a little bit of the cuts this week where they walk into the office.

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If there's anything we can do for you, please let me know.

Now, don't let the door hit you on your ass on your way out.

They tease us with the cuts.

What was your mojo moment from this week?

My mojo moment was Mike McCarthy showing up in his party shirt looking like a watermelon. Yeah.
Yeah. The Mike McCarthy party shirt, it looked like it was a hologram of an even bigger shirt.
Yes. It was playing tricks on the eyes.
That's a classic example. McCarthy's wife probably gets him a $50 gift card to Kohl's every year for Christmas, and just goes in blacks out and goes on like a shopping rampage that's the shirt that he bought this year yes with his new money yes also the uh other notable moment was the stand-up comedy routine where they try to do stand-up comedy with only inside jokes that the locker room would get yep um there was also more we were all wondering how the whole contact saga from last week with Quan Hardy was going to finish up.
This week they had him in contacts. The human body craves contacts.
Yes. Quan Hardy was like, you know what? I'm going to lose the goggles.
No more Eric Dickerson. He saw how he looked and he played without goggles this week.
So that was. Oh, also Jerry Jones is able to wink.
Yeah. I didn't think that was possible given the Botox situation and situation and it was but he went he's only able to wink when he's in the presence of whataburger yes um all right last last thing before we go to all the nfl cuts uh just a little warning when you listen to field yates mike florio interview the start of it you're going to be very very confused because we're not part of it just wait because we got florio again we've gotten deeper he's going to have major trust issues from what we've done to him this year but definitely listen and follow along nailed him yes last thing before we get to the other cuts in the nfl that we actually did get to talk about uh jerry jones that was so that was like when they put the cliffhanger at the end of an episode you're like oh i gotta watch next week they just showed jerry jones talking about whataburger at the end and you're like wow i really want some more jerry jones there were probably like nine or ten different scenes in this hard knocks though where i watched it and i was just like this is the stuff they decide to keep in right this week like there was one time where a guy came up to his defensive line coach and was like, hey, good meeting earlier.
They kept that in. That's the gold stuff that we're getting.
So yeah, next week we're going to see Gucci DiNucci. They caught him today.
No spoilers. No spoilers, but Gucci DiNucci gets caught.
Probably similar to the Cam Newton thing where they're like, you know what? You're going to get a starting job somewhere, so we want you to have the pick of the litter, Gucci. Okay, moving on from Hard Knocks.
Cut day in the NFL. I would say that the Lions going with no kickers would lead the cut day stories, but Cam Newton got cut.
He did, yeah. So it's Mac Jones time in New England.
That's right. Hey, Big Cat, have you noticed Mac is Cam backwards? Oh! That's the new Sabermetrics.
Mac Attack. The hottest in the street.
Mac Attack is going to be the starting quarterback for your New England Patriots. People are saying, like, why did they cut Cam Newton? I think it's actually because Bill was probably like, hey, I think Cam could probably try to get his starting job somewhere.
Maybe if somebody got hurt or if there's a team out there that's looking for a starting quarterback still. So that's probably why they cut him loose, so that he didn't have to stick around as a backup.
Shout out to Cam Newton for being ever so gracious in his Instagram message where he continued to use his font. I really want to see how far he would go with that font, like if he was remembering a tragedy, if he was— His tombstone? His tombstone.
His obituary has to be written in that font because like getting cut and and being like hey nothing but good things i i was i shouldn't have been shocked but i was a little shocked when i saw the font do you think that if cam heaven forbid if he had like one of the stds that you have to hit up everybody that you've ever been with yeah you think he'd send a text be like hey i got the herp yes might want to get that checked out yes yes it would be that way i think he would too and yeah he was gracious he actually gave one of the all-time best high fives that i've ever seen when mac got he got pulled out of the game uh was that sunday and cam just like stalked him on the sideline made him give him a high five i actually think cam is a great teammate i think that he'll probably find a place if he wants to keep playing.

He'll definitely have a spot if he wants

one later on. I don't think he's a starter.

He wasn't good enough to be

a starter. I mean, he was a starter last year, but he

didn't play like one for the majority of the year.

Hank, what are your thoughts before I give one last

thought about it? It reminded me of

the Malcolm Butler Super Bowl thing

again. It was one of those things where it seemed

like it was...

He could play. He could be on the team.
He could contribute.

Belichick

All right. Malcolm Butler Super Bowl thing again like it was one of those things where it seemed like it was uh he could play he could be on the team he could contribute Belichick just is I guess his thing is just the team comes first Mac Jones was the starter uh for the last few weeks and proved he can be the starter and I don't know if it's because him I think what PFT was saying where it's like him and Cam have a good relationship yeah so I've heard behind the scenes so scenes.
So it probably was Belichick helping Cam out. But it seemed like one of those things where it didn't make sense at all, really.
The one storyline that was utterly ridiculous to me was people who were trying to shoehorn the vaccine into it. You don't think that played any? No.
None? No. Here's why.
Here's why. Hold on.
Here's why. First, obviously, we're a pro-vaccination podcast.
We're all vaccined here, so I'm not saying don't get the vaccine. Billy forced us into that.
Billy forced us to get the vaccine. I'm sure there'll be one or two.
I think the Twitter handle was Simone Biles Quit. Got mad at me.
Said I should shove the vaccine up my ass. Last time I said you should get the vaccine.
But let me just reiterate that. That same guy was mad at Arian today.
Yeah. So Simone Biles quit.
Shout out. I respect a great username.
Yeah, shout out. Really bad opinions.
I think Bill Belichick would sign someone who was like a super spreader of vaccine if he was really good at quarterback. Because all he cares about is winning football games.
And that's the number one thing. I really do think he got cut because he was not good enough to be the starter.
And he probably, it's probably a little distracting to have Cam Newton, former MVP, as your backup when you're trying to get your new starter, Mac Jones, to get the confidence and go along and start winning football games. I know that, like, obviously the best ability is availability and Belichick is telling telling people to get vaccinated.
But if Cam Newton was MVP Cam Newton, he wouldn't have been cut today because he didn't get the vaccine. If Cam Newton was vaccinated, though, this whole thing never would have happened.
What do you mean? He wouldn't have missed the practices that he had to miss, which then put Mac Jones into playing with the starters. I think he was going to be the starter anyway, Mac Jones.
But he wouldn't have gotten the reps. He wouldn't have gotten the reps if Cam Newton wasn't out of practice.
He was getting first team reps before that. When Big Cat says, though, that if he was the MVP, if he was MVP Cam Newton, he probably would not have been cut.
But in this circumstance, it was probably like 50-50 or 60-40. Who's the better quarterback? Then you take into account.
Oh, I don't think it was that close. Right now.
And then you take into account all the you take into account all the variables about it which is one okay Max the younger guy so he's gonna be around for a while so uh like yes there's more of an upside to playing Mac Jones right now uh and then also like if Cam Newton isn't vaccinated and he does come into those high-risk contact situations then by nature like he's going to be much more likely to actually miss time so i think if it was even close to 50 50 that definitely would have made a difference no i so if if you want to say a percent of bill belichick like it was hey if he was vaccinated would help i i don't think cam newton's good anymore he objectively was bad for the majority of last season like he was good in the dolphins the Dolphins game. He was good in that Seahawks game.
He was really bad. Borderline unplayable for a majority of the season.
I just don't, maybe it's injuries. I don't know what it is.
I think he is not a good quarterback anymore. And Bill Belichick is not going to keep a not a good quarterback on the roster.
What percentage of him getting cut do you think was his playlist? I'd say probably, Hank, like 5%, 10%. You're going to go Zo on us? Let's go Zolak.
Never go full Zo. I don't think it was Zolak saying he's playing rap music on the playlist.
I think Zo was saying he's not playing good rap music on the playlist. Zo was like let me get play some soldier boy not this drake shit i i just really think that like cam newton again he he's a great quarterback in the past one of the actually i'd say it probably the best college football quarterback i've ever seen play his his last season at auburn when he's playing with an entire offense of guys who didn't play in the NFL and took them to a national championship is like Mount Rushmore of seasons in college football.
He was the MVP. He went to the Super Bowl.
That guy is not that. He's not that guy.
Oh, he just isn't. Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
I just think that like it was the quarterback competition was like it wasn't like Mac Jones absolutely blew him out of the water. It was Mac Jones played pretty well.
Cam Newton didn't do badly this preseason. I think Cam Newton played very badly last season.
I agree with you on that. But it definitely like, he definitely thought of it.
And also Belichick is smart enough not to do what Urban Meyer did and publicly say that. Because now they're opening an investigation to Urban Meyer and how much the vaccine played a part of it because it obviously goes against some of the NFLPA stuff.

So that's the difference between Bill Belichick and someone who aspires to be Bill Belichick.

I just think we always look into these things more.

Obviously, the vaccine has changed everyone's perception of these things.

At the end of the day, Bill Belichick, what he does better than anyone else is a football

coach that always wants the team to win. He doesn't think Cam Newton's good anymore.
I truly think that. I also like how Hank's brain is wired to be like six degrees of Kevin Bacon, but it's just six degrees of that Malcolm Butler interception.
No, no, no. The benching Malcolm Butler in the second half of the Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, that's what he's referring to. Oh, okay, gotcha, yeah.
Because that didn't make sense. You would have thought that Malcolm Butler would have helped win the game.
Yeah. But he didn't play him for reasons that still are unknown.
Yeah, I mean, what is Seth Wickersham doing if he hasn't gotten to the bottom of that yet? That's really all. I want that, and I want to know about the Des David.
I'm going to look up Cam. Jonas Gray type stuff, too.
Yep. Slept in through the alarm clock.
But that was that answer But that was Ryan Mallett also a foe of alarm clocks. I think if Cam Newton was vaccinated, he'd still be on the team.
Oh, I don't. See, I think that we forget how truly awful he was at the end of last year.
Hank, that's it. He had a good preseason.
All the reports were saying it's a quarterback battle. Everyone has a good preseason.
Yeah, I guess. I mean, everyone is a pre hero.
That's a great headline though. It's like if Cam Newton was still vaccinated, he would still be a New England Patriot.
And that would get some major clicks. Cam Newton, he had one game in the last from week nine on, he had one game over 250 yards.
What? He got COVID during that time. Right, but then he came back and he was playing for the rest of the season and he had some like 12 for 19 for 69 yards.
Remember that game? That was the Chargers game. Remember how bad that was? It was really bad.
It was really, really bad. And again, he might be injured.
I'm not saying he's not injured. He could be injured.
He could maybe somehow find that guy, but I don't think that guy's there right now. He definitely somewhat remembered how to throw a football during the offseason because he looked different.
I watched the entire football team Patriots preseason game. Cam Newton, he looked not like a great quarterback, but he looked a lot better in terms of his mechanics than he was at those points last year where it looked like he was throwing a hatchet.
Yeah, and obviously having him there if you're trying to have – if Mac Jones is a starter, you said it yourself, where it's like if you start with Cam Newton, then you go to Mac Jones. If you start with Mac Jones, then you can't go to Cam Newton.
So that eliminates the whole issue. All right, other cuts.
Detroit Lions don't have a kicker. I actually think that Dan Campbell forgot.
No, no. Oh, no, I think he forgot.
Like, he didn't do the math right. And then maybe in a day or two he will re-sign a kicker when no one's looking.
Okay, so I could see that happening if it was like he didn't do the math right and he got done with all of his cuts and there was like one guy that he thought would still be on the team. They're like, hey, we're over the limit by one.
He's like, oh, shit.

All right, just get rid of one of these kickers.

We can always find somebody that can kick a football.

But what I love about this, I absolutely love this about what Dan Campbell is doing.

He's accidentally proving, you know what horseshoe theory is in politics,

that the far left and the far right are exactly the same?

He's doing that with meatheads and analytics people.

He's going to go for two every time without a kicker.

He's a that with meatheads and analytics people. He's going to go for two every time without a kicker.
He's going to go for it on fourth downs a lot without a kicker, obviously. Wait, you think he's actually going to start the season without a kicker? I hope that he does.
I don't think he does. I would absolutely love it if Dan Campbell went into the season with zero kickers on his roster i think he forgot i think he did the cut like he probably cut zane gonzalez early in the morning and he was just going down the list and he meant to cut fat randy and then he cut fat randy afternoon and then someone in his office was like hey dan we don't have any kickers and then he was like all right that was a fuck up my mistake i'm not gonna i'm not gonna resign someone right now i'm gonna wait a couple days that way it looks like i did this on purpose or maybe it's just like you have to earn your kicker instead of earning that star on the side of your helmet one of them you guys haven't played good enough to justify me keeping a kicker on this roster dan campbell is just breaking analytics all right and then the other um every team is every rookie quarterback is starting except justin fields Oh, that's right, Trey Lance.
Trey Lance, he's got a chip in his finger. That's right.
Which I guess they're saying that it's just going to be like a week, which I don't think that's possible to come back from like a sheared-off bone in your finger. Yeah.
I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
We'll have to get pro football. Sounds like a fake injury to give Jimmy G one last chance.
Yeah, exactly. Like, okay, Trey, just pretend that you got a jammed finger.

Let's just say that you're going to sit out for a little bit on this one.

But, yeah, Justin Fields, Andy Dalton is going to start.

It's basically the reverse of everything I said about Belichick.

Belichick is like, well, what's the best way to win games?

Matt Nagy's like, well, I made a promise to Andy Dalton back in March, so I have to keep that promise.

You know what would actually be the most Matt Nagy move? Is if he benched Andy Dalton at halftime for Nick Foles in week one. Yeah, I mean, Nick Foles.
No one wants Nick Foles. They've been trying to trade Nick Foles.
I mean, the Colts, it would be so fucking funny if the Colts are like, you know what, Carson Wentz might not be ready for week one. Let's get Nick Foles in.
He knows the system. Carson and him probably get along really well together.
I keep going back to it because I know everyone's like, well, you don't want to get Justin Fields killed. I don't actually care that Andy Dalton is starting the season in the fact that I think the Bears probably aren't going to be good anyway, so it's not going to be the deciding factor between making the playoffs or not.
The part that I hate is that Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy had Justin Fields fall into his lap. They actually were going to play this entire season with Andy Dalton.
That's the part that's crazy to me. That is the evaluation they did at quarterback.
They went out and got Andy Dalton and were like, this is the answer. And then they got lucky.
So I don't want to let them off the hook that they got Justin Fields in the draft because he fell to them. I want to remind people that these two morons actually wanted to start Andy Dalton.
Nice guy, really nice guy. They actually thought they were going to have Andy Dalton be the starter for an entire year.
Big Cat remembers. Yeah.
And I think that Andy Dalton, he is, like you said, a very nice guy. Super nice guy.
But the gap between him and Justin Fields is like it's so astronomical that we're going to start having this conversation pretty soon is the players on the team, in order for Matt Nagy to keep credibility with his locker room. It's already gone.
Because the players know who the best player in this position is. In order to keep credibility and to make it legit like, yeah, this is a football team where if you're the best at your position you're going to play, they're not going to be able to keep Andy out there, even though he is a very nice guy.
Very nice guy. I don't think that they're going to be able to keep him out there.
He bought a house. He bought a house in Chicago.
Good for him. So clearly he's been promised probably the next decade as the Bears quarterback.
Andy Dalton is too trusting. No, why wouldn't you trust Matt Nagy? He's going through with his – he did a handshake deal.
They are starting Andy Dalton. They said QB1.
He is QB1. Like, you have to trust these guys.
These guys come through on everything. They let Mike Glennon start.
Like, they will always, if the Chicago Bears, as currently states,

signs you to a contract in March that says you're the number one quarterback,

you are the number one quarterback no matter what happens.

Word is bond.

Patrick Mahomes could demand a trade to the Bears,

and they would still let Andy Dalton start week one.

Word is bond.

It's fucking crazy.

The other quarterback news is Deshaun Watson officially appears

on the Houston Texans death chart as other.

Yeah. So there's the starting quarterback, which is Terod Taylor.
There's the backup quarterback, which is blank. There's the third string quarterback, which is God knows who, I forget.
And then there's other, which is Deshaun Watson. So he's not even technically listed as being on the depth chart.
He's a human form of an asterisk is what he is.

And then David Cully, that's a reminder in case you forgot,

he's a coach of the Houston Texans.

Pull dog.

They asked him today,

so what's your depth chart going to look like at running back?

And he said, I guess we're just going to kind of do running back by committee,

which is something that we would say about their running back position

after like week four when they're splitting the carries. but you've never heard a coach going to the season be like,

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He's a Texan. Don't forget that.
And so like halfway through the season, a couple injuries happened on a real football team and then they're going to be able to trade those guys away over the course of the year and get assets back for them. This year, they're just the Texans' general store.
So if your team needs something, go shop down in Houston and pick something up. It's also, I mean, I don't feel confident that the Dolphins aren't going to trade for him, Deshaun Watson, because it seems like there's a lot of smoke around that.
And Brian Flores did a, like, he did the thing that you never want your coach to do, and he came out and was like, Tua is our quarterback. He's like, yeah, this is, we feel confident.
We knew that Tua was your quarterback. We feel so confident that we're telling you how confident we feel.
Yeah, like Bruce Arians isn't like Tom Brady is our quarterback. Yeah, it's not a big deal.
He's the quarterback guy. Stop asking.
But Deshaun Watson, if you want to get traded to the Dolphins and then put a bunch of asterisks in case you go to jail, we'll do that trade. Where do you think that Cam Newton is going to wind up? Do you think he's going to hang out for a while until there's an injury? I honestly don't know because, like, I don't know.
So the most likely landing spot, a lot of people have said, would be the Washington football team, but I don't think that's the case at all because they had a crack at him last year when Ron Rivera was being the new head coach, and they didn't pursue him. So Ron would know more than anybody.
Right. Yeah.
Plus, if you're like, if you're looking at two guys like Cam Newton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, they're both probably like, I'd say Fitzy has looked better recently than Cam Newton. Dude, Cam Newton's not good.
Even if they were equals like 50-50, you don't go through a preseason with a guy. And then at the last second, you're like, we're going to bring somebody in who's exactly your level and then get them up to speed in a matter of like a week and a half, two weeks.
Yeah. So I don't think that he's going to sign with any team like immediately.
I don't think that's going to happen. No, Cam Newton's not good.
I'm counting it right now. Ready? Francesa.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Ten games that Cam Newton played last year where he was under 200 yards passing.
In today's NFL. That's a backup.
Yeah. That's a backup.
Now, to be fair, the Patriots had like dog shit at receiver last year. Sure.
But it's still a backup. Yeah, I'm just saying, to be fair.
Yeah. I mean, look at Nick Mullins.
He'll fucking light the place up. cj bethard in the second half yeah in the second half yeah give him anyone yeah what about a quarterback by committee why don't a team should just go all in on the mullins cj bethard because if you looked at how they played in san francisco when they're on the same team sometimes they stunk for a half but if you if you absolutely fucking nailed it and you had nick mullins in for his good half and then Bencham brought CJ in for his good half,

you could probably go 11-6 with that combination.

Yeah, absolutely.

You'd have to time it perfectly.

All right, so those are cuts.

Football's about to be back.

We do have Tom Fernelli on the show on Friday to talk a little college football.

We're going to do some NFL stuff next week preview.

Dude, I saw the schedule for this weekend in college football. Yeah, it's great.
Holy fuck. It's fucking great.
Badgers are going to be good this year. And that that's me just probably reading, ready for a fucking, you know, sword in my heart on Saturday afternoon.
But I actually do think they're going to be very good. The Mets, we should talk about them really quickly.
So Javi Baez, this happened on Sunday when I was heading to the Jake Paul fight, so we didn't record late that night. Javi Baez came out and said that the thumbs down thing that he and Francisco Lindor and other Mets are doing is actually in reply to the fans that boo them when they do something bad.
So when Javi Baez and Francisco Lindor do something good, they give thumbs down to the fans. Okay, weird.
You don't usually see players openly saying we're booing the fans. Whatever.
Then the Mets came out and made a comment, did an official statement from Sandy Alderson, essentially saying booing is every fan's right. That's what they said, which I respect.
First Amendment. Yeah, which I respect because it is.
And that they completely disavow Javi and Lindor and anyone else who are actively booing the fans with thumbs down celebrations. Okay, so a couple things to unpack here.
Number one, I love a good boo. Yeah.
I don't think that we should be legislating boos in this society. Boo is a very productive thing to do.
It's a fun thing to do. And and at the end of the day it's just somebody making a noise at you and then it may be giving you a thumbs down but i love a good boo booze are underrated it's way better than if you go overseas and people start whistling at you yeah hate the whistle love the boo the boo when um a crowd catches a good boo there's nothing like it when a when When maybe an ump makes a mistake or a ref fucks something up or just something bad happens and then the whole crowd gets a real deep guttural boo, it's a very great experience.
Close to a whole entire crowd chanting asshole to someone, which is also great. I love the bullshit chant, too.

Yeah, bullshit.

At the Jake Paul fight, there was a pussy chant,

which happened during the female fight, which is a little awkward,

but it was because two guys in the 300 level were standing squared up with each other

for, I'm not joking, five minutes without throwing a punch.

Don't like that.

Yeah, so everyone started chanting that.

But back to the Mets.

This is just so, it's such a

ridiculous, like, everyone

lost their mind at the same time

and it just,

all of it together is the dumbest story

ever. So, it's funny because

Sandy tried to come out and say, like,

he thought that he was having the fans back

by telling Javi Baez, like,

hey, this is not what we do. And then there was

a backlash to that by the Mets fans

who, in their own sick, demented,

twisted Mets brains,

We're going to have the players back. They don't care if he has the fans back at all, which I actually kind of understand that line of thinking.
You know what they could have done? It's our right to boo. You don't have to agree with it.
You can defend to the death our right to do it, but just let us have our say, and you get the players back. They could have just said nothing, and it wouldn't have been a big deal.
Correct. It really wouldn't have been a big deal.
And the craziest part is Javi Baez is actually not the one that I don't think Mets fans are actually mad at Javi because Javi is a rental. You know what I mean? He's probably not going to be on the Mets next year.
This is all Francisco Lindor. He signed a 10-year, $300-plus million contract.
He's Javi Baez's best friend. He's been doing the thumbs down.
That's the guy that I think Mets fans are truly mad at. And I really do think Buster Olney was apoplectic.
Did I use that correctly? He was apoplectic being like Javi Baez has cost himself a ton of money in free agency. You know what has cost Javi Baez a ton of money in free agency? That he's hitting like 220.
Yeah, maybe swinging like a full hour ahead of a changeup. That might have done it.
And if he wants to come back to the Cubs on a discount, I would love that because I love him forever. But I would say that if Javi Baez was hitting 350, he could face fuck a guy's wife and someone would sign him in free agency.
Like after he could walk up to the stands hit a home run walk up to the stands and then like dx thrust into the front row like into someone's face and they would still probably the dodgers will probably sign him they might yeah they might actually pay him more yeah right they've got that they've got that cap room coming up pretty soon i guess this is a theme today, but I do think that I always love when Big J journalists think that outside actions. How many times have we seen teams, they just don't care about anything but production? Yes.
So to pretend that putting your thumbs down or even getting vaccinated really matters, it probably doesn't. If they're good, they're going to play.
Right. No, you're absolutely right about that.
Javi Baez has stunk recently, so that's why it's become a big thing. And then he actually won the game with a Javi Baez play today.
The fans should have just said, Brooksie, Adam. That would be a much more appropriate way, I think, to face your frustration.
And before anyone says, I know that baseball doesn't have a cap. I know that, but I was trying to make a reference to Trevor Bauer.
And the cap going up. Cap goes up.
No cap. No cap.
There we go. Jake, goddammit.
Love it. Who taught you that, Jake? Who have you been hanging out with? Should we talk about Brooksy? Yeah, let's talk about which Brooksy are we talking about here? I thought you could say that.
Oh, you can't say that anymore. So the PGA came out.
They issued a statement that if you say Brooksy on a golf course, you're going to jail. And you're getting thrown out.
You're getting thrown out. Maybe jail.
No. So Bryson initially tried to go to the police with this issue.
Right. He tried.
Somebody called him by the wrong name and he dialed 911 and tried to have people arrested. And they're like, hey, Bryson, that's not how laws work how laws work right and so although we do appreciate freedom of speech on this podcast it is your right to say brooksy the constitution gives us that right correct thank you to everyone who fought for that right uh they're going to be kicking you out of golf tournaments this year yes and so uh i maintain with my initial standing that uh i don't like bryson deau.
There is 5% of me that feels bad for him because he clearly can't handle any type of ball busting whatsoever. Every interaction he has is very tough to watch at this point.
But I did turn the corner a little bit on Bryson when he said that he would valiantly donate his vaccine to someone else who needs it badly. So he's saving's saving countless lives by being out there on vaccine so thank you bryson for that but i do this is it's become the no horns down ruling but on golf and by that i mean it's singling out one person that gets preferential treatment you can't refer to any you can't call tony finnell zander when he's out there on the course uh But you can.
Sorry, they won't throw you out for calling him by the wrong name. But you can't call Bryson the wrong name or else you'll get kicked.
That to me seems it's weird to make a rule like that specific to one player. It's just the best way to keep this going, which we can discuss.
I mean, I think that we all agree that maybe the joke has run its course.

That's my thing.

I don't really feel bad for Bryson.

I just don't think that the Brooksy thing is as funny as it was when it first started. Especially because he clearly, like, on the 50th time that he can't handle it, it's like, oh, yeesh.

Like, you know, you say when you're in an office setting and maybe you make a joke and then someone flips out you're like oh okay uh sorry it went too far i don't know like our bad sorry for taking it the wrong way yeah i apologize to all those who were offended right uh you know what's just going to happen though people if you can't say brooksy people are going to find other words to say and then there'll just be an ever-expanding list, after Bryson hits a tee shot, can you say, way to go, steroid boy? Yeah. Way to go, big guy.
Yeah. Or, like, soon you won't be allowed to say that either.
I don't know what the endgame is here for Bryson, but I think the only way that he can overcome this is if he were to get on Dave's bag and caddy for Dave in the match against us and Brooks Koepka, which is next Tuesday, next Tuesday.

That's really the only way out because it's not going to stop.

No one.

Bryson is a big enough douchebag that he will give people a never ending list of reasons to make fun of him. This guy, the people that should be in his corner the most are like the people that manufacture his special science fiction clubs from the future that they spend like hours and hours every day in a wind tunnel trying to make a driver for him that breaks the laws of physics and even those people get thrown under the bus by bryson and they have to issue a statement be like hey you know that guy that we sponsor he's a dickhead the only thing that bryson does to help his case is when he interacts with other people and it comes across as so bad that I then have my 5%.
I feel bad for this guy because you're right. If he were to have any type of sense, he would be part of the match on Tuesday.
He'd have fun with it. He can't do that.
He just there's something that is the wires get crossed and he's not able to participate in any type of back and forth.

We saw it on the match.

He did a canned joke to start and then he ran out of material and it was so like my

I was physically cringing watching him.

So that's where I start to feel bad.

It's like this guy can't handle any of this.

So I don't know.

I mean, the PGA just fucked him even more, though, by issuing this statement.

It's insane.

Bryson very clearly went to the PGA and was like, hey, can you guys do something to put

a stop to this?

Yes. So like,

all,

Thank you. So, I don't know.
I mean, the PGA just fucked him even more, though, by issuing this statement. It's insane.
Bryson very clearly went to the PGA and was like, hey, can you guys do something to put a stop to this? Yes, be my shield. Although I do think the joke, I don't think it's that funny anymore, not because of how he's reacting.
I just feel like it's been, what, like four months, three months? Yeah. I would not hate it if people moved on from the whole Brooksy thing.
Big guy. Find something new.
Steroid boy. Yeah.
I still think steroid boy is in play. Steroid boy works.
And if he gets mad about that, it's like, well, let's take it to court. And you have to prove that you've never done it.
Let's get discovery. Yeah, let's get discovery going.
Okay, let's do some hot seat cool throw. Ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.
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challenge and steelers fans are freaking out did he did he win did he fall he didn't fall but people

were just mad at him i feel like juju smith schuster and pittsburgh they're not a good

relationship they're not a good relationship they were never meant for each other they don't

understand content juju smith is all about the content life yeah it's not it's not it doesn't

Thank you. They're not a good relationship.
They're not a good relationship. They were never meant for each other.
They don't understand content. Juju Smith is all about the content life.
Yeah. It doesn't feel like it's going well.
Didn't he just re-sign? I don't know. I don't know.
I'm pretty sure he signed a new contract there for a year or something. One year, four million.
There it is. So it's going well enough that he wanted to stay there.
Wait, one year, four million? Sorry, four year, his starting contract yeah sorry i'll get back to it okay not better to be right than first there it is there it is um my other hot seat is scott frost oh there's a little bit of a follow-up from uh monday's show but he had a press conference after the fact and he was talking about the offense at illinois and he said about illinois yeah i like it reading it out uh about half of our game plan was out the window when they lined up how they did okay so not if you're a head coach and you're on the hot seat probably not something you want to admit he got outsmarted by brett bielema yeah well in scott frost's defense like they didn't tell him that they were going to do it like that. Right.
So, I mean, what is he supposed to do?

Adjust?

Yeah.

Is he going to play?

Was it Uzbekistan?

Yeah.

I got Uzbekistan laying 14 and a half against Nebraska right now.

You're going to make Scott Frost make an adjustment?

That's not part of the deal.

They're Nebraska.

Do you think that Nebraska being so bad right now is actually hurting Will Compton's chances of getting signed to an NFL roster? I think it has a large part to do with it. It's like, where'd you go to college? Oh, yeah.
Yikes. Yeah, is there one from Fordham that's available? Yeah, that's tough.
Actually, Nebraska has Fordham on their schedule. Oh, I'm aware.
So they're gonna kill him. I'm aware.
It's, what, their 40 and a half point favorites? Yep. I'm hammering Fordham.
Yep. Let's go Rams.
Although this might be the only chance Scott Frost has to put up. Because the point differential is important for the end of the season.
Yeah. So he's got to put up 100.
Style points matter in Nebraska versus Fordham. One year, $8 million deal.
Okay, there it is. So he did resign.
That's still really cheap. I would think he'd get more.
Yeah, but if it's not one thing, it's another with Juju, right? Yeah. But he stopped dancing on the shield.
Yeah, he was good last year. All right, your cool throw? My cool throw is Coach Prime.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, hard knocks kind of sucks. Not the most enjoyable thing to watch.
Coach Prime. We're taping this before.
What if someone gets hit by a bus? I highly doubt it. In the middle of...
With a drone shot. Highly, highly doubt it.
And they manage to keep it quiet until it debuted? With a drone shot. Yeah.
That'd be nice. Usually there's some type of leaks like, Tonight's Hard Knocks to be must-watch.
Okay. Didn't see any of that.
Okay. You're taking a risk.
I like it. So what I haven't seen is what they've shown us in the past on this last episode of Hard Knocks when there were the cuts and all that.
They show the last edits being made and then the videotape being sprinted across town by some poor messenger and handed to the HBO executives at the very last second. Be like, look at all this hard work we put in for tonight.
I haven't seen any of that, so I don't think that there's going to be any surprises. Okay, carry on.
But Coach Prime, it's like a Barstool version of Hard Knocks,

Deion Sanders, Jackson State.

Is it Jackson State?

Jackson State, yeah. You got it.

Stay with your chest, big man.

I had second-guessed myself after I said it.

It's out now.

It started on Sunday.

It's coming out every day this week.

I think there's six episodes.

They're great.

It's an inside look.

It's like Hard Knocks, Last Chance U,

combine if you like that type of football series. It's on the Barstool Sports YouTube.
It's better than Hard Knocks, objectively. No bias.
So check it out. And it's edited and filmed by our guy Dana Beers.
Dana Beers. It's got a whole crew.
A whole big crew. Dana Beers is spearheading it.
It's because the cameraman was blown like a .12 in perpetuity the entire time. Well, they have an actual real production crew they're working with, and they're great.
He doesn't drink when he's down in Mississippi. Oh, he doesn't? He's all clean living.
Clean living. You can also see Dana swell up over the course of the series due to all the good food that he's eating down there.
Is that it, Hank? That's it. Good jobs.
My hot seat, the Kennedys are on the hot seat. Kennedys are on the hot seat.

Tough break for them because it looks like Sirhan Sirhan, the guy that shot RFK.

The assassin's so nice they named him twice.

He's getting out of prison on parole after like 50 years.

And a lot of people are asking questions about, hey, was this guy actually guilty or not?

This is one of my favorite conspiracies because people don't talk about the RFK assassination. They talk about the JFK probably because Ravel always tweets that one out.
But with the Sirhan Sirhan one, his gun held eight bullets. And there are like 13 shots that you can hear on the audio transcript.
No one's ever really talked about that much. And so he's going to be getting out of prison, I guess.
Didn't they tackle him, like tackle him though as he was shooting them yeah so he the i'm not saying that he didn't do it i'm saying right there probably was police officers fire there probably was somebody else no okay no no police officers found it and yeah so i i'm interested to hear like more maybe you know what we need to have him do like he should be a guest on podcasts. Sirhan, Sirhan,

Sirhan.

I would like to hear him on,

on podcasts,

explain what happened.

Cause that's one theory that I think that we don't know the whole story

about.

There also was a story.

I saw,

uh,

I think the New York post or someone was like,

uh,

JFK,

one of JFK's mistresses came out and was like,

yeah,

he was,

we were,

uh,

together and then he got married and he like basically left me high and dry. So I'm canceling him.
JFK? Yeah. That's fucked up.
Because he got... Wait, it was a second.
He was already married. I'm going first count adultery, second count misogyny.
Okay. Canceled.
Got it. All right.
My cool throne is... I'm going to go with the NFC Beast.
NFC Beast on the cool throne, namely the New York Giants, because Dave Gettleman in all his infinite wisdom, he's keeping two fullbacks. Nice.
Not one, but two. He's going to have fullback by committee this year.
Nice. Which is a very Dave Gettleman thing to do.
You zig when everybody else zags. What does he say about analytics? He's like, we've got a bunch of computer guys.
Yeah. Guys with computers that are working on this.
Yeah. So I don't know which one of them.
squad the geek squad is working on it just went to best buy they're keeping two it's the uh with saquon barkley they've got the thunder and the thunder and the lightning backfield with with say is he back in week one i think so dave getteman just went to geek squad one day was like you guys giants fans they're like yep i'm like okay great you want to make some money part of, they just installed his big screen TV. Yes.
That he just watches Clearing Present Danger on on repeat. They just got him Yahoo Mail.
Yes. That's it.
I've got one more cool thrown. The Irish.
The Irish, or they're kind of back. Okay.
The Irish, their population got over 5 million for the first time since the potato famine. So shout out to the Irish.
Shout out to Seamus Fleming. Started the potato famine.
It only took like 200 years of never using condoms for the irish to get their population they're back it's also very it's weird to think that the entire population was almost wiped out just because potatoes had a tough year yeah and potatoes have like no nutritional value like their entire society was subsisting on like the least healthy thing until it got wiped out like well we're all out of ideas yeah we kind of i. I don't know what else we can eat.
We kind of had our eggs in that basket. Billy looks like he's got nutrition.
It was more the British. It was the starving by the British and stealing of food.
Okay. Nice.
Good point, Billy. All right.
My hot seat is Billy football because Jake Paul fought on Sunday night. He won, and I was there there and I don't think you could beat Jake Paul in a fight.
Yeah, you know what? At this point, the train may have left the station on that one. Do you know what though, Billy? There was an article beforehand, which I'd like you to do a little research into.
It came out that there was no drug testing for that fight. So Jake Paul probably roided up to to the gill yeah i didn't want to say anything but in caleb's interview you can see acne right around is like oh just really bad yeah what about his nipples very everyone saw that did you give any what's your nipple analysis of jake paul i mean anyone can see they were coned yeah super absolutely no but i do love jakeake paul the speech that he gave like right after he won the fight in between telling people like i haven't been to the dentist in 18 months yeah like join the club jake paul i don't think anybody's been to the dentist since covid um by the way thoughts and prayers of dennis it must have really been a tough year and a half yeah um might have sold the lake house by this point but uh yeah so with jake paul he's already retiring, which is great.
I love that move because then it's like a band that says that this is going to be their farewell tour. They sell a bunch of tickets for the last one.
It's a classic boxing move to be like, yeah, I'm going to retire from fighting. And then that way you get a little bit more money in your next fight back.
But then after the fight, he was also going back and forth with the tattoo bet because the bet was already going to be like Woodley had to get his name tattooed. And then Woodley's like, I'll get your name tattooed if we can rematch.
And Jake Paul was like, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it was very bad negotiating on his fault.
Did he get tricked into accepting a rematch? I think so. I think so.
I mean, it was an electric atmosphere. It was an awesome...
It wasn't great boxing. Also, Tommy Fury is the most attractive man in the world and a terrible boxer.
That's my... I think he'd fuck Jake Paul up.
I don't think so. He fought someone who was like eight inches smaller than him and he wasn't able to knock him out.
The thing is, he's going to fight Tommy Fury next. I don't think he will.
No, he will. I think Tommy Fury was that bad.
Oh, he fought someone his size and he's a boxer.

Like, he's a really good boxer. That should be

the narrative. I was shocked with how good-looking

Tommy Fury is and how bad he is at a boxing.

It's actually like they should trade spaces

and Jake Paul should be a professional boxer

and then Fury should just be a YouTuber.

Yeah, that'd be perfect.

If you like reality TV, Love Island Season 5,

one of the best seasons of all time, yeah.

I think Bobby Lang could beat Jake Paul. If they use Ruff and Rowdy refs, I agree.
Like if they just let you, you know, do everything you're allowed to do in Ruff and Rowdy. Who's the guy from Ruff and Rowdy? The guy that runs it that just gets on screaming at him? Go, go, go, go, go, go.
Let him do the playlist while it's going on. Just blasting Lil Jon on repeat.
Speaking of Ruff and rowdy, my cool throne is me because we had Pac-Man Jones on the show. Afterwards, I think you guys weren't as scared, but our great co-worker Kelly was like, he wants to kill you.
I don't know, maybe he did. But after the fight, I went into his hotel suite.
I walked into there. They were having a party, and I got my $1,000.
I said, Mr. Pac- a party And I got my $1,000 I said Mr.
Pac-Man I would like my $1,000 Good for you That must have taken some balls It was a fun move What did you spend it on? I have not spent it yet Just put it in my pocket Charity? Are you going to do charity with it? Probably not going to do charity Okay Probably just I said I'd give him double or nothing If he fought Bobby Lange again That's smart yeah i would like to see that fight again it wasn't a bad fight like pac-man was really really fucking quick yeah and which was kind of to be expected given that he is a professional quarterback or quarterback yeah but like he was he was a lot faster than i thought it would be he didn't he doesn't know the rules of rough and rowdy where anything pretty much goes yeah bobby kind of ate his lunch when they got in close right would do some of the dirty stuff on them right also pac-man um they had a party all night uh after a loss even and so i texted pac-man because we like linked up after got the money i texted him he was like text me a picture of the uh that we took me holding the money i texted him a picture he hearted it and then at i woke up at like 7 30 at 7 0 5 i don't think he had slept he had just texted me haha fuck you and i was like okay well back in that back in the blender love it so yeah shout out pac-man guys talking shit to each other what's not to like yeah i was i told billy this yesterday that if he still does harbor the dreams of one day fighting against jake paul he has to like take the upper hand in some way, shape, or form. Correct.
I think that he should kidnap his robot. Yeah, I met his robot.
I think Cletus would knock out his robot. No, but if you kidnapped his robot and you're like, hey, bitch, I got your cyborg, I think that's the only way to get his attention.
Cletus in the second round. Can I just say real quick, I spent some time with his robot when he was unroboted.
The guy is a fucking mad scientist. He was like, yeah, my next thing is I'm going to make these mini cannons and have them fight each other and shoot each other.
He's like, but we don't need them to shoot at a velocity to kill a person because that's bad for the insurance. I was like, well, and also because it would kill someone.
He had all these ideas and Dave and I were just sitting in this locker room before the fight. We're like, alright, robot.
Can you go back to being a robot? He just invented BattleBots. Which, by the way, I don't hate that.
BattleBots kick ass. Correct.
Alright, hot seat, cool throw, and Jake. My hot seat is LeBron.
Yes. LeBron is no longer the most influential player in Cleveland Cavaliers history because they signed Taco Fall today.
Oh. So you might steal the spotlight.
Yes. Maybe a witness.
That's tacos. Billboard coming.
Yes. Taco Town, baby.
I love it. Very likable guy.
Very likable. Nothing wrong with that.
And then my Cool Throne's Bill's Mafia. So there's a proposal for a new stadium in 2027.

They must put a wing nuts concession stand in.

Yes.

Yes.

It's just like, it's a guarantee.

We will get an update on the shirts, by the way.

I've been meaning to do that, but we will get that.

PSA, if you're trying to order wing nuts, you got to call ahead now.

Yes.

They're pretty much on a phone ahead basis.

If you come in after five minutes, if they've been open, they're sold out. So, yeah, take care of Ed and Alicia.
Make sure to tip well. Good people.
All right, Billy, your hot seat, Cool Toronto. Okay, this one is a big one.
My hot seat is ESPN. Yes.
Why? There is a very, very intense story. So, to start, on Sunday, IMG Academy played on ESPN against a school named Bishop Sycamore.

Throughout the game, the ESPN crew started to express much worry about player safety

as the school Bishop Sycamore was being blown out 58-0.

It was looking like the Civil War out there.

Guys were getting carried off the field.

Whoa, whoa.

Just tons.

Now you're stealing valor against the Civil War.

I'm going to do it. It's a football game, Billy.
And it was also about slavery, by the way. So are you saying that this football game? That was an expression in terms of blowouts.
Got it, got it, got it. It's funny.
Like the Civil War. Very funny.
Heard it all the time. Ken Burns.
Ken Burns, shout out. Anyway, so then people started to look into this school, Bishop Sycamore.
Now, Bishop Sycamore sounds like many Catholic powerhouses, Bishop Gorman, that tend to recruit players from out of state and be able to put together great teams that could compete with a team like IMG Academy that has multiple four- to five-star recruits. Because of this, no one really looked into whether Bishop Gorman actually had the recruits and high class players that they said they did.
If you go to their website, it's really just a blog that talks about recruiting on a higher level. So what they realized is that their coach at the time, Roy Johnson, had a worn out for his arrest on fraud charges and that many of the players who were not listed on the roster given to ESPN had no names.
So they had no idea who's actually playing in the games. So what they found out is that this roster might have been put together of illegal players who are not registered, may have not been the right ages using fake IDs, older players, double, triple PG's and not actually high school kids.
Then it gets more. They looked into the registration of the school.
The school was a non-state funded, religiously affiliated, non-charter school. This is fake.
At what point does it just not even become a school? If there are all those different options that you can click for your school, at some point it should be like, this doesn't exist. Also, their name is BS.
Good point. That was the first sign.
Also, there's no one ever in the history named bishop sycamore another good never been a bit so the whole thing was faked the kids i feel bad for the kids i do i am always fascinated with like a guy who created this what was going through his head the fact that he got on espn is incredible but uh yeah it seems kind of shitty for the kids right well i'm gonna be honest i to be honest. I'm actually going to put this on IMG.
Okay. Because IMG is an independent school in the Florida Athletic High School League.
So that means that they don't have a league schedule, so they have to set up their own games. Right.
The thing is with that, as IMG has all these powerhouse players who will injure your team and roll over your team and blow them out, it's very hard for them to find teams to play. So if they find this team that's a bunch of scrounged up players, recruited from already graduated high school kids who they recruit at these recruiting camps, they're going to get them to play them because it's the only people they can get them to play.
So it's like an Alabama playing an FCS school. It's a bye game, yeah.
Exactly. And they played them the year before and blew them out as well.
So it wasn't like they had no idea who this team was. Got it.
So ESPN's blaming Paragon Sports, Paragon Marketing, who's supposed to schedule the games that go on TV. So there's a lot of blames going around.
The whole story's wild. Yeah.
It's like a fake team just made it onto ESPN. So what Billy's saying is that essentially you can just create a school if you get enough players and then make money by selling their games against IMG Academy.
Correct. It actually sounds a lot like Fyre Fest.
This whole school sounds like is Billy McFarland involved in this at all? So from the sounds of it, there was former players who came out back when the school was called Christian of Faith. Yeah, which that was Christian of Faith Academy.
Then they rebranded. As fake of a school name as you could come up with.
Rebranded to Bishop Sycamore to sound more like a Bishop Gorman. Right.
Like a powerhouse. Anyway, it falls under the same jurisdiction of school as like an Amish school on on an Amish settlement.
They don't use zippers. Not state-affiliated.
That's how they came into being. So technically, they are a school of sorts, but they're supposed to report their attendance to the state.
Got it. One thing I'm absolutely certain of already is that Bishop Sycamore jokes are going to be made by the least funny people in America for the next 12 months.
Correct. They also played two days before.
Yeah, which that's the part where I feel bad for the kids. That's very dangerous.
Turns out the kids said that they're all adults. Well, not all of them.
Some of them are kids. Yeah.
Not all of them. There are kids involved.
So back in 2018, a player who plays a little. The The roster's not all kids.
There's some guys who are, I think, graduated high school, right? Yeah, like double PG's, not just regular PG's. But there are kids too, right? There's 16-, 17-year-olds.
There was an interview with a guy in Complex today who played at Bishop Sycamore for, I think, the 2018 to 2019 season when he was 15. And they basically said, like, yeah, we've got the state-of-the-art facility they brought the kids up there said that they were going to be like on netflix and everything like a last chance type situation yeah and it turned into them just having to live in a hotel for like five months so it's definitely it's definitely run by somebody who is like probably the coach who then fired did he fire himself himself? No, the founder fired him, but he's claiming.

The founder might be the coach.

The founder definitely has his hands clean and all this.

He's like, wait, this is not what Bishop Sycamore stands for.

His name is Andre, the founder.

Something.

So that's different than Roy Johnson.

Right.

Who has an arrest warrant.

Got it.

And by the way, Mike Richards also got fired.

I think, did he also fire himself for being executive producer? I think so. So, yeah.
Got another one. Another one bites the dust, right? Yeah, tough.
Yeah. All right.
Good hot seat. Crazy story.
Insane story. Like, I don't know how they get up on ESPN, but.
It was very funny to see the announcers in real time just start to turn against the broadcast.

Yeah, like, we should... Because they didn't even give a real roster.
Uh-huh. They just handed them a piece of paper

with, like, names on it. Nothing else.

No names. Yeah.
Um, alright, your

cool throw. Urban Wildlife,

they found an 80-pound cougar in the

Bronx yesterday, so...

Oh. Reminiscent of the tiger story

with the guy who had a tiger and a

crocodile in his apartment. Remember Tiger King? Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
So the cougar. How big is a cougar? About the size of a puma.
Okay. Oh, okay.
Which is about the size of a mountain lion? Exactly. Yeah, okay.
Got it. Got it.
How many turtles stacked on top of each other? 16. Okay.
What would a cougar eat in like an urban environment? Rats. They should release more cougars onto the street.
Who's being kept as a pet. That's what they call fleet week, guys.
Got it. Got it.
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Awesome interview in person. Jerry O'Connell is the best.
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Now here he is, Jerry O'Connell. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, recurring guests in studio.
I think we're the only show that does their fantasy football preview like this. And I think this is the third or fourth year in a row.
It is Jerry O'Connell, our favorite. It is so exciting to be back here.
I mean, I don't even know what to tell you guys. You know, ever since I was on your show, those who might not recall, last year I talked about, it was around this time exactly last year, and I was talking about draft strategies.
And I said I have a lot of ticks and OCDs when it comes to my teams, and I have to have a few Browns on my teams because the last time I won, Braylon Edwards and Derek Anderson were on my team. I have to have a few Jags on my teams because the last time I won, Maurice Jones-Drew was my running back.
And I have very weird ticks. But this year I made a very long list as to why I can or can't draft players from teams and positions.
Oh, okay. Let's get to that list.
So you're trying to change yourself. Well, it's not that I'm trying to change myself.
It's just that, commenter, it's like when you're in a relationship, okay, and it's not working out, you know, and you just try and you keep trying and you keep trying to make the relationship work out. And it's not working out.
enough is enough. It's big that you're trying to demonstrate growth, that you're self-reflecting.
No. Scouting yourself.
It's not growth. It's time to move on.
Blow the whole thing up. It's time to move on.
Yeah. Sometimes relationships work out and sometimes they don't.
You're like hiring a whole new GM in front office. I love this.
You know, I was making more of a relationship analogy. Sometimes it's just time to call the lawyer and say, I want out.
Yeah. How do I do this? Get me a good deal.
Get me the house. So let's start with the Browns.
Yeah. Wait, wait.
Before we do that, what are you doing these days? Let's plug something. I'm on a show called The Talk.
It's talk show on CBS It's on weekdays at 2pm on CBS I'm the first male host on the panel It's groundbreaking Yeah, Breaking Bears Jackie Robinson I'm breaking the glass ceiling I'm breaking the plexi floor My two-year-old son can look at the TV and be like, look, as a white man, I can someday make it to TV. That's what's happening there.
So it's really fun. I have a fun time doing it.
It's a good show. I start officially in two weeks.
Oh, you haven't even started. I haven't even started.
So you haven't even broken the ground. You're standing with the shovel shovel and the hard hat i filled in for i filled in for a month i was um i was abjectly unemployed all through um the pandemic i'm sorry i got really quiet in here sorry everybody um but uh wait are you just making up a show to plug so that you don't seem like no i'm gonna be on tv every day on cbs network no it's a real television show it's just it's not your demographic's a daytime.
No, but you're a friend, so we will support it and we will get everyone to support it. Milfs love us.
Yes. Yeah, I mean, it would be great maybe to have you guys on.
Great, done. I don't know, like a grit.
We could do like a grit week thing. By the way, thank you for closing out grit week with me.
This is the end of grit week. Yes, this is the official end of grit week.
Absolutely. You guys are the best.
Wait, so wait, are you moving to New York? No, it shoots in Los Angeles. Ah, I thought we were going to get a best friend moving into the neighborhood.
No, but I'm back often. They always say that.
So Jerry, I think you might be pulling a double psych on yourself. Or double cross, excuse me, double cross on yourself.
Because this is the year you've decided to blow everything up. You've decided to change your draft strategy.
And this is the year literally everybody is saying that the Browns have the most talented roster in the NFL. I understand that.
And listen, you're going to find out with a lot of my ticks that's where I go wrong. Is that I quit them right before they...
It's like breaking up with someone just before they hit the lottery. No, no, lottery.
Are you okay? Are you okay? Are you going through like a... Let's like, let's like be realistic.
Is Rebecca doing okay? No, everything's fine with our marriage. We did it.
We made it through the pandemic. It was, I didn't think we were going to make it, but we did.
Like, I have to be honest with you. And it's not just me.
It's my wife and I looked at each other like week three when it was like, oh, this isn't going to be two weeks. Week three.
And we had like blasted through Love Island or whatever. Tiger King.
Tiger King. And like we realized we weren't designed to be together all the time.
And this is going to be really different. But we made it through.
I'm not going to say we made it through stronger. I know people say we made it through stronger.
Weaker. You made it through weaker.
We're a touch weaker. Not a lot weaker.
We made it through a touch weaker, but we are still... We did it.
Yeah, congratulations. You sound really happy.
We do have two 12-year-old daughters who just got phones. Oh, no.
But that occupied them all the time, so it was great. Credit you for holding out that long.
We did. We held out.
That 12 feels like it's, I feel like kids get phones at like 7 now. You know what's funny? You have about a decade before you have to deal with this, Kat.
But all of their, it's so funny. I grew up with, I went to a girl's house.
I grew up actually in this neighborhood, believe it or not. I went to junior high about five blocks from here.
And I went to a girl's house uh at the chelsea hotel you know that hotel that they're doing on 23rd and she was kind of an arty kid and i recall walking through her apartment and she didn't have a tv and i said where's your tv and she went oh we don't have one and i was like what and my kids at 12 not having phones were like that kid without a tv right it was like it's a part of their social life but now they have the phone so they were nose deep in the phone the entire pandemic like tiktok if you're a parent and you don't want to deal with your children tiktok tiktok is like scroll it's just so addictive they just do it all the time it's so awesome awesome. They're just gone.
Just scroll, scroll, scroll. We're on TikTok.
Well, our strategy with TikTok is Billy, who's not here right now. Sure, Billy.
I do have a question about Billy. Yeah, go ahead.
Because I do, I really, I'm not kidding. The thing I respect most are veterans, are people who, hold on a second.
I'm actually, I want to be serious on your show for a second. I really like going away from your family, serving your country, risking your life.
It's more than a job. It's not a job.
I'm not joking. I'm being serious here.
It's really... It's putting...
Not only your life, it's putting everything on the line for everything that we hold true and dear. So we can play fantasy football.
So we can play fantasy football. I'm really grateful.
I'm really one of those people who I don't care how many times everyone said it. Thank you for your service.
Yes, thank you, Billy. Thank you is almost not enough.
If by the grace of something I'm given a business class seat and I see anyone in close to anything that's camouflaged, green, anything, I'm saying

this is yours.

Smart.

But is Billy a veteran?

Of the war on Christmas.

Yeah.

Yes.

So he is not a veteran?

No.

I have a big problem with this, guys.

Well, hold on.

He's not a veteran per se, but I think you could say, like, Billy would have made a great Navy SEAL.

No, no. So is it really a— No, Kat.
That's kind of a technicality that he wasn't actually a Navy SEAL. He also said that he would trade it all to become a Navy SEAL.
This is actually when he didn't even have a job here. He said he'd trade it all, which was trading nothing to be a Navy SEAL.
So he's a mentor.

You cannot tie army issue shoes to your backpack and walk through the streets like you just got off of a plane leaving Kabul. And you just served.
It's not okay. It's like those freak shows that drive fake police cars down the street.
They are freaks, man. They are a menace to society and they're actually dangerous because you slow down.
Yes, the Crown Vicks with the big mirror on the side. They make believe they are officers of the law to make people respect them.
It is really messed up. It's actually a mental problem.
Yeah, I think so, Billy. No, I agree.
The thing with Billy is he's not doing it intentionally. He's just, over the years, accumulated so many things that are military adjacent because, I thinkly he wants to be in the military.
You play enough Call of Duty, you end up in the military. Is that really Stolen Valor? Yeah.
It's not Stolen Valor. It's actually a mental issue.
Yes, I agree. Stolen Valor is saying, I did this.
This is my medal. I did that.
I accomplished that. He's actually, he's got, I'm not joking.
He needs to go to betterhealth.com slash PMT and type some of this stuff in.

He needs to talk to somebody for sure.

Well, thank you.

I wish that Billy was around to hear that.

I think he needs to hear it from somebody face to face.

Yeah, he's on a mission right now.

Can I talk about why I've broken up with the Browns?

Yeah, let's do it.

So let's do your fantasy football rules or whatever you prepared for. So I used to always have at a minimum two Browns on my teams.
And then last season against the Raiders, I know it was a hailstorm. But the Browns scored, I believe, three points in a game.
Yes. A grapple.
It was a grapple storm. A what old storm? Grapple.
I learned that word last year. So grapple is a mixture of like hail, sleet, and snow and rain a little bit.
And they have a special word for it. It's like a German Midwestern word called grapple.
I don't care. Like you can't.
I can't. I've been with you for over a decade.
You can't score three points in a game. You can't do that to me.
We watch that game here because we fire up. That's what you really need to do.
You need to come with us on a Sunday. Come here.
We have all the games on. We sit for seven hours and watch all the games.
But I think we all had the over because it went down to like 33 or something. I'm like, how could we not? And then they just never scored.
It was very upsetting. So I actually broke up with the Browns.
I will no longer be drafting browns that was it that was them stepping out on your marriage i may in a defensive player uh pick up miles um wait you have a league with defensive players yes they're so i'm in a league it's a freak show actually i gotta tell you you're the freak show i'm in a league with complete nerds who know nothing about football nothing about football And I entered this league thinking i'm gonna win this every year this is easy i mean i guess we're allowed to talk about gambling on the show um that's all you talk about um uh you know i i thought this is easy money right and last season i came in last place. And I had to pay the penalty for last place.

What was that?

It was $200.

Wow.

It doesn't matter.

I can afford the $200 because, you know, I mean, I'm on the talk.

You got a real job and everything.

I resell, like, all this barstool stuff, the bag, the goodies bag that you give me on DJ.

What are the residuals on Stand By Me?

I mean, they're not.

I don't think you can make a living from it, but it's... I mean, they still come in.
You get a check every quarter? It used to be paper checks. Everything's gone pretty much wireless these days, you know, for the environment.
That's got to be kind of a bummer, though, because I would imagine that walking to your mailbox, collecting a check for something that you did 40 years ago has got to feel pretty good. Yeah.
I think the actual act of, like through them like when i go to my mailbox i'm like wow are we still doing this yeah that's what i feel like it's uh and when i go to the post office you know shout out to all usps workers love them working hard uh saw your dude coming up here um yep and dropping off packages and everything um but it does seem like uh wow are are we still doing that? Yeah, I agree. Like going into a post office is not, you know, there is a very nice post office here in midtown Manhattan.
But the post office where I live, I love everyone who works there. It's like it keeps moving from like strip mall to strip mall.
It's next to a massage parlor now. It's's like really It gets shady in the post office They should serve beer in post offices Or deli meat If you take a number you might as well get some deli meat out of it Yeah I think financially They're having a lot of problems The postal service It's not like an Ikea They can't get away with giving away.
Get John Taffer involved and have it be a crossover event, a post office and a bar restaurant at the same time. Yeah, but he would only feed you late at night.
Call it the mailroom, M-A-L-E. I like that.
And it's a gay bar. Yeah.
I do want to say, as you know, I'm a huge listener of your show. I got to give a shout out to a restaurant in my area, the Six Chow House.
When they serve wings, you can request only drumettes, which is what I'm a fan of. Okay, not a flats guy, huh? So you go like a dozen drumettes? I go straight drumettes.
Wow. Straight.
All drumettes. I say all drumettes, please.
What's the difference between a drum and a drumette? Is it a female-male thing? Drum is the leg. A drumette is the wing.
It's the leg-looking part of the wing. Got it.
I'm a huge drumette fan, but I did get very hungry for wings listening to your show the last couple of weeks. They were incredible.
If you ever go to Buffalo, which a man of your stature, I don't think ever goes to Buffalo. No, I do.
I've been to Buffalo. Listen, I'm all about the Lehigh Valley up there.
i was in buffalo uh a couple days ago how about that

what yeah i swear to you what were you lying i was having been the butcher uh no um i um

with the labradoodle um i um no i was working in toronto and i flew out of buffalo ah so you got

to go to wing nuts uh i didn't i went straight to the airport but next time i will go to go

i've been thinking about it for the last week i know you guys really painted a picture all

I'm thinking about it right now. I want to move to Buffalo across the street.
All right, so let's do some fantasy football. Okay, I also told you I had to always have a Jag on my team ever since I won with Maurice Jones-Drew.
The Jags also have broken up with them. They're dead to me.
Good. That's probably a smart move.
Until Trevor Lawrence gets settled in, I think you want to avoid them. Last season, I don't know about you guys in varying degrees of relationships and such, but I can't watch Thursday NFL, Sunday morning NFL, Sunday afternoon NFL in the morning.
That's what we have in Los Angeles. And then Monday NFL.
I have to pick. I get two of those.
No, yeah, that's not relatable to this job. I get two of them.
So Thursday night's games are typically not the most exciting games. Is it skippable for you? Color rush, though.
The uniforms are slightly different. Oh, really? Yeah, on Thursdays.
Oh, you don't even know. Yeah, I know, but I need...
I'm only given two slots a weekend and I can't waste it on... Yeah, you gotta use it on Sunday.
I can't waste it on a Titans-Bengals unmatchable. Yeah, yeah.
No, that's fair. That's fair.
So, last season, I plugged in DJ Shark, who, great receiver. I believe this was week two.
The Jags played Thursday night, and I was feeling pretty confident. He's a wide receiver one-ish.
Yeah. He's up there.
And he was a game-time scratch. I was not watching the game.
I was at dinner with my wife. Oh.
And I came back, and there was a zero there when i checked my phone i try not to check my phone during during dinner um and um i was i really took it out on my children for the next four weeks i mean i was a different person it really changed me and i remember looking at the television and seeing you know dj shark on the sidelines he did suit up he just didn't go in the game and um i remember think i like was looking at the tv and i was like that's it jags i'm never again i'm done with you yeah they do play yeah they play a lot of thursday games you should just you should make one of your daughters the general manager like the the acting general manager so you can go out to dinners you can do all that stuff and meanwhile she's making sure that you're not missing any open spots in your game i i should i um i don't trust anyone i don't like partners in my leagues i don't i don't send that email or that link to be like hey let's be a co-manager i don't do that it's my it's my thing right right also some of my um team names like at work are like a little offensive so i don't want that ever getting out. What are we going with this year? Fizekiel Elliott.
How about that one? Fizekiel Elliott. I really like that.
It's mostly work jokes where I work. It's like I make fun of people who have been let go, gotten in trouble, and stuff like that.
I don't want to mention it because I'm sure they'll listen to this and stuff. And then I'm typically asked by a superior to change my name, and it becomes like a funny thing because I blasted out on an email.
Right. Okay.
I love it. But nothing like highly offensive.
No, no. It's just more inside jokes.
Inside joke stuff. Yes, yes.
All right. So let's do your fantasy rules.
Okay. I will not be...
How many rules did you write? No, I wrote a lot. I have highlights and everything.
This is like a Coach Staley clipboard. I'll put this in the Hall of Fame someday.
I'm no longer drafting any Giants wide receivers. I am from the New York area.
I like to watch Giants games. I won't be after Darius Slayton, who I started last season in week one, had two touchdowns in that first game, if you recall.
And then for the rest of the season, he only had one touchdown. Whoa.
And the Giants receivers are dead to me. Yeah.
Okay, that's fair. That's all it takes.
That's fair. So not a believer in Daniel Jones.
Yeah. I'm just not touching their receivers, so I don't even care.
Like, it's like, I got to tell you, it's like relationships, commenter. It's like, you have to, if you break up with somebody, it's like, I don't care what you do.
I'm not going to check your Instagram. I'm fine.
All right. I'm fine.
It's just, I get very, like, this is an exciting time of year for me. I've done a number of mock drafts.
I actually had to bite the bullet and join a fantasy guidance site where I've been doing hundreds of mock drafts a day. You're like the biggest mark ever for a fantasy, for like a person who makes their living coaching other people's fantasy teams.
You're like the white whale. I landed.
I have joined a number of those fantasy sites. You know, when I came in last, I'm really upset because I came in last place last.
Yeah, that's embarrassing. And it's people who know nothing about, like nothing about football.
And I'd say the embarrassing part, if I may, not to like really rub salt in this wound, but you came in last and you tried. Because usually the last place.
No, I tried my hardest. Yeah, right.
The last place guy usually is like, oh, he just didn't pay attention. Or he leaves slots open.
Yeah, right. And it just, it really, it's, I got to tell you, it really, I'm actually, I made a better health.com backslash PMT joke earlier, but like I obsessed over it all year long.
Yeah. No, I can tell it's pent up.
That'll stay with you. So we're going to do it this year.
So no Giants. No Giants receivers.
Everyone else, these are specific. The Jets.
I'm from the New York area. I like to watch Jets games.
I said on your podcast that I like to draft Jets. Last season, with my third round pick, I picked Levian, who played.
I counted. He played three quarters all season long.
He played three quarters. Honestly, I've totally forgotten.
He didn't play three games. He didn't play three games.
Yeah, for a second I was like, wait. Oh, yeah, he was on the Jets.
He was really good for a long time. So then he went to the Chiefs, and I was like, oh, here we go.
Now I got you guys. I'm going to be like the Yankees.

I'm going to come in the home

stretch. Here I come.
By the way,

at this point, I'm not playing to win.

I'm playing to not be in last.

And I was getting excited about it.

Last season really messed me up.

So

I will never be drafting Jets

again, although I may draft

Corey Davis, and I may draft that guy

Carter. Okay, so no Jets except for two Jets No Jets, but they're going to be on my bench Okay This is just a personal thing I don't draft any Steelers, I'm sorry to tell you guys I didn't like when Rudolph, that quarterback I thought he egged on Miles Garrett Yeah, Garrett, yeah.
He had it coming. I thought that everyone was saying, oh gosh, how could Miles Garrett do that? But no one talked about what Rudolph did.
It's his face. So we have a theory on this show.
His face, he's got too big of a face. You see his face and you're like, I don't like it.
I don't know what's wrong with it, but I don't like it. Very punchable.
He's got the Kool-Aid lips, too. It looks like he's got a red ring around him all the time.
He's got a big-ass head. Just kind of want to punch him.
I don't want any smoke with anyone, but you guys are obviously creating, but I just thought he... I can't deal with the Steelers.
So no Steelers. Can I give you just a real quick piece of advice? I know this goes against your no Steelers rule, but if you're playing in a league with defenses, a good rule of thumb is just draft a Steelers defender.
Because they're usually not bad. They'll usually end up being worst-case scenario average.
I do have, like OC, I told you I suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder, especially with fantasy football. Betterhelp.com backslash PMT.
But I have to have the Baltimore, I have to have the Ravens defense on my teams.. You'll draft them first round if you have to.
No, I won't draft them first round, but when I see the Rams going or what are some other defenses out there? The Steelers. The Steelers.
That's when I might not take Corey Davis or Michael Carter. I might take a Ravens defense.
Kind of the same way about the Seahawks.

I just assume that the Seahawks defense is always going to be good because the Legion

of Boom, remember that?

Sure, of course.

Sure, sure, sure.

Suggs, Lewis, Ladarius, come on.

Ed Reed.

The Bears.

I got to get to the Bears.

I'm so sorry, Kat.

Uh-oh.

I think 2017 I drafted, maybe with my first round pick, a running back named Jordan Howard. Yeah.
Only to watch another running back, Tariq Cohen, get pretty much every red zone pass from 6'7", Mike Lennon, Mitchell. Yeah, Mitch was there, yeah.
The MVP. That was a very bad Bears offensive season, yeah.
And it's just so painful when you waste a first-round pick. Oh, you took him in the first round, Jordan Howard.
I believe he was up there. He was up first or second.
He's not on the team anymore, though. Hasn't been.
I understand he's not on the team, but I can't look at the Bears. Okay.
I can't look at their running game at all. You know what? I'm not going to fight you on that because I've watched too many Bears games where the offense is just putrid, so I agree with you.
Another running game I can't look at, Vikings running game, and I know that's crazy because they have superstars on that team. I just don't believe in – I didn't know what switching your children was until I heard a running back from that team talk about punishing children.

Yes, yes.

So they're off for that.

And it just, it really, like it really shook me.

It shook me.

And I can't look at any of their.

So what about the Chiefs?

Chiefs are okay. You got a sliding scale of.
Chiefs are okay. You can draft any Chiefs.
Got it. Oh, you're talking about Tyreek Hill.
Yeah. You can draft any Chief that you want.
I'm okay with Chiefs. Sliding scale, that's okay.
Duality of man. I'm okay with all Cowboys.
What about Panthers wide receivers? I'm okay with all Panthers. All Panthers.
That's a sliding scale. I would never draft a Panthers quarterback because last season, when I came in last place, the opposing team I was up against for last place was playing against someone who did not play a quarterback because it's a two QB league, so you can only have two QBs.

He stashed Bridgewater.

And I was like, you gotta dump Bridgewater and pick up a quarterback.

And he was like, this is collusion.

You can't talk to me.

I'm not even playing you.

And I was like, I need you to win this game.

And he wrote back, I'm stashing Bridgewater.

So my name in that league is Stashing Bridgewater. So I will have nothing to do with any Panther quarterback or now any Broncos quarterback.
What about Patriots tight ends? Patriots tight ends are fine. I will never touch Patriots wide receivers.
No one knows who they're... I mean, who do you draft? I will say Patriots running backs, I okay with, especially now that there's more of a clear leader, Damian Harris.
But last season, it was a bye week, and I was in desperate need for a running back, and this was not collusion. I talked to someone else in the league who was in desperate need for a wide receiver, and I, for a one-week swap, gave him Nelson Aguilar for Rex Burkett.
It's not collusion. That is collusion.
No, it's a one-week swap. That's the definition of collusion.
It's a one-week swap. It was an even Steven swap.
He needed a wide receiver. I got Rex Burkett, who had two touchdowns in that game.
Was it a handshake deal? There was no paper trail. There were no emails.
That's how I know it's collusion is because you went out of your way to not leave a paper trail. Did you feel a little dirty? Because you knew it was wrong.
No, not in the slightest. I looked and saw who needed a wide receiver, and I said, you have Rex Burkhead sitting on your bench.
Hey, how about Nelson Aguilar for a week? And I get Rex Burkhead. Ha ha.
It was a joke. And then next thing I know

I got a request and I hit confirm.

And then the week after I sent him

the request back and it was

fine. What's the big deal? Guys, relax.

Slow down. Summer.
Coors Light.

Guys, come on. Take a chill

pill. Let me ask you this.
How many

leagues are you in right now? I'm in five

leagues. Oh my god.

Are you looking for another? Because we have a fancy football league that we're in. This is our second year in a row with C.J.
McCollum. Sorry, C.J.
McCollum. Okay.
I'm in. I will do it.
I will do it. I'm in.
I'm in. You don't have to go through the whole thing.
There's Julius Randle, and there's Turtle from Entourage. Exciting, yeah, sure.
Jerry Ferreira. Jerry Ferreira, yeah.
So we have a team. Would you like to manage our team for us? Maybe even draft.
Now it's a high roller buy-in. It's a $1,000 buy-in.
Holy shit. We've got that covered.
We've got it covered. So you just have to be our general manager.
Do I have to do something for that money? Are you guys going to make me transport something or something? We'll count this. We'll count this.
This is your payment by appearing on our show. Just don't lose.
Yeah. I'm in.
I'll do it. Love it.
Love it. Just know there'll be no fucking Browns or Jags on this team.
Just understand that. I want you to be you.
Except for two. Or Bears.
Or Steelers. No Cardinals running backs either.
Because last season I lost to Kenyon Drake, an opposing team. He had two touchdowns in a game.
I just couldn't believe it. No Houston Texans running backs, because in 2016 I drafted Lamar Miller, and that didn't go too well.
I believe I drafted him in the first or second round as well. And every season, like with the 15th round, Jerry takes Duke Johnson Jr.
It's a nightmare. I can't wait until when this airs.
We're going to air it next week. But when this airs and some AWL has the time to put this all together, that you basically are drafting from a pool of like 30 people.
I mean, yeah. it's what I'm comfortable with.
And this has been years of fantasy. I'm coming out of, it's almost like, I feel like it's a rebuild.
Like last year, now I'm in the rebuilding process. And I feel like I'm going to rise out of the ashes.
By the way, just to say when I quit those Browns and I said, unlike that famous movie, I can quit them.

They lost to the Raiders, which had the worst defense. I mean, that was going to be what was going to put me over the top.
Although last season, I did have my first 200-point game ever, which was a lot of ups and downs last season. But, of course, it was with – I had Will Fuller when he and – Oh, gosh.
Who's the Texan? Deshaun Watson? Yeah. Deshaun Watson when they had that – I think it was like a Thanksgiving Day game where they just lit it up.
Yes, against the Lions. Yeah.
It was my first 200-point game. And then I was like, something bad's going to happen.
Something bad's going to happen. And then literally like day later, Will Fuller was like, oh, I'm gone for the rest of the season.
That's usually how he goes. That happens.
And so I will not draft any Texans running back. No Texans at all, it sounds like.
No, no, no. I will draft Texans running back.
We'll draft Texans wide receivers and quarterbacks. They've done well for me.
I have no idea what's going to happen there. Who's going to start there? Just to put a pin in it, no Vikings running backs.
Texans quarterbacks, okay. Texans quarterbacks, okay.
Vikings quarterbacks, okay. Vikings wide receivers, okay.
You have to look into this. Giants running backs, okay.
Cardinals wide receivers. Cardinals quarterbacks.
Totally fine. So, I mean, it's just like specific groups that I can't touch because they burned me.
And you know what? Afuma can't be fooled again. Yes.
That's right. So next Wednesday at, I think it's 8 p.m., that's when the draft is.
That's when we're going to run this. So it'll be today, as we say.
Today. Tonight.
A couple players that are of value, I think, that are out there. Mike Davis, running backs in Atlanta.
You can have Atlanta. Don't give our entire strategy away.
Oh, okay. T.
Higgins is going to be a very valuable wide receiver, T. Higgins.
Value. I love a good value.
And I think players like Mike Davis, Corey Davis, T. Higgins, these are Jalen Hurts I think you're going to be able to get in the sixth round.
I think players like Mike Davis, Corey Davis, Tee Higgins, Jalen Hurts I think you're going to be able to get in the sixth round. I love a value in fantasy football.
Give me the official Jerry O'Connell Sleeper of the Year. Hatch Mahomes.
I mean, I think with injuries down there now, I think it's not a sleeper, but no one talks about James.

I can't believe I'm talking about a Jag.

Oh, no, you can't do it.

You can't do it.

I might take James Robinson now that there's been injuries down there and everything. One injury to Travis Etienne, and you're like, all right, fuck the no Jags.

I'm back.

Marie Jones-Drew, never forget.

I'm back. I love it it sleeper of the year I don't know I normally would say like Damian Harris but I have no idea who JJ Taylor is I know nothing about him undrafted that other running back sleeper of Year.
I'm not ready to say yet.

I'm not ready to give it out.

I will say this.

Never draft a Bears kicker ever

as long as you live.

Ever.

Ever.

Ever.

Smart.

Kyro Santos is good.

Ever.

Ever.

Ever.

Never.

Ever.

Ever.

It's the moosh.

It's what will ruin a team.

It will bring down family.

It will bring down dynasties.

It's like...

Even a very, very good team that looks like it could go all the way. Yes.
Never. Never.
The moosh. What else? Oh, I love all Dolphins.
Oh, okay. I love Gasicki.
I think Gaskin's going to be a value running back. Value.
Okay. Also, I want to defend Hard Knocks.
You guys were kind of knocking it a little bit. I'm really enjoying the season, and that drone shot I thought was one of the most awesome things I've ever seen.
Yeah, it was. It's missing, like, I don't know, a waiter bringing out a table for Jerry Jones at midfield.
100%. That's really funny.
That's a Goodfellas reference for all you kids out there, but I was, I mean, that's incredible what they do with those drones. And it was, everything's so big in Dallas.

It's just, it's so big.

Him coming in the helicopter, it's just, they're so smart.

They go to Mexico and get players.

All of Mexico is going to be instantaneously.

Why don't the Jets, why don't the Bears go down to other countries and get players? I mean. I don't know.
because they stink. They can't get players in America.
They've got to start that first. So you make a good point.
There are parts of Hard Knocks that are good, that are entertaining. I would actually be happy if they just made last week's episode just 30 minutes.
No, I totally hear what you're saying. And take out maybe all the contact lens drama that they had.
That was like Saw. That was so gross.
I can't deal with people touching eyes. Oh, it was so gross.
It was like Saw. It was the grossest thing I've...
Just do drone shots. The Card Doctor, Jerry Jones, and Trayvon Diggs' son.
Yeah, but that Rex Beck stuff was really fun. It was really...
You know, I will probably stay away from Cowboys. I was a little upset with the Cowboys last season.
I thought when Andy Dalton was going to come in, you know, to quote Michael Fabiano, he was giving the keys to a Ferrari. I thought for sure the Cowboys were going to make a run for it.
But, man, they got to do something about that backup position. That was really, I mean, we're just talking about the last episode of Hard Knocks.
Leave it to the Cowboys to throw an interception in the fourth quarter. It was like, oh, boy.
It was just like, oh, yeah. You guys were making me laugh so hard, wasting prayers in preseason.
Yeah, I mean, it's true, right? Pulling out the God card. That was really funny.
It's a little too early. It would be like you using God in your mock drafts.
You don't want to do that. No, no, no.
Save it for the real season. Save it for the real draft.
I told you I'm using guidance this season. I've narrowed it down to one site, and it seems they're in a – some of those fantasy assistance sites, some of them are really busted.
No offense to Eastern Europe or something, but I can tell, like, it's not, they're not fantasy. Yeah.
It's like you can tell they're cutting and pasting stuff, and it's like it's almost like a make-believe website, and I can't believe I plugged my credit card in there. Yeah, you're deep web shit.
Yeah, and it's just like, yes, this player, very good. He run fast.
You pick in second round. You will take Thurman Thomas.
He is very good running back. You should just log into chat roulette and just ask random people.
Then you catch jacking off, hey, what do you think about Miles O'Garren? You're basically like the famous drill tweet, which you might not know, but it's like, someone please help me with my budget. And Jerry O'Connell's like, you know, $20 on drum mats.
Right. $15 on flights.
Right. $10,000 on fantasy football guidance.
How am I poor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I agree with you. I'm not going to disagree with you.
It's good. I feel like I got a lot out.
I really wanted to come back and just tell people how I've moved on from certain relationships in fantasy. We love having you here.
So let's finish it with the Mount Rushmore draft. We had the Mount Rushmore of fantasy draft order.
Position. No, order.
Order, yeah. Which was maybe the dumbest thing we've ever done.
So we're going to try to go even dumber. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of fantasy positions.
Okay. It can't be as bad as the buildings one you guys did.
Oh, yeah. People didn't like it.
People didn't like it. That was pretty painful.
Yeah. Yeah.
People didn't like it. All right.
So you're our guest. So why don't you start? Okay.
I'm going to... I think we talked about it earlier in the show.
Just a defensive player. An individual defensive player.
That's your first pick. That's my first pick.
No, no, no. Not defenses.
An individual defensive player. You're talking about taking a linebacker.
Yeah. I will probably be taking a Brown.
I know I said I was breaking up with them, but it's just a defensive player. Totally different.
But I am a huge Miles Garrett fan, and I will be taking a Brown. It's different than anyone on the offense.
Because of what he did to Mason Rudolph. Not because of what he did to Mason Rudolph.
Obviously, violence. No one should choose violence.
But I thought that he took the blame for something that was not entirely his fault. I think we only saw one side of the story there.
Many fine people on both sides. Right.
I didn't say that, commenter. I said, I just don't think we heard his story.
Okay. Okay.
All right. I'll go next.
I'll go QB1. That's a good pick.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
But a lot of people would say, Matthew Berry would say, why are you taking a quarterback in the first round? I love taking quarterbacks. I mean, he fell on his face with that Mike Vick thing a few years ago.
Never forget that, by the way. All right, my first pick is going to be.
You have two picks. Or no, Hank's going.
Hank, yeah, Hank. My first pick...
You know what? I'm going to go flex. Okay.
Love flex. Yeah.
Love the flex because you got to always have in the back of your mind all season long. And if you have a flex, then nothing is off limits.
I always guess wrong, though, on my flex. Your season is never truly over if you have that flex spot.
Yeah. All right.
You took that one from me. I'll audible here.

I'll go kicker.

Whoa.

You have two now.

Guaranteed points.

Get a lot of points.

Not from the Bears.

Not from the Bears.

If you get a team that's not a great team, they have a bad quarterback, can't convert

in the red zone, you're going to get a lot of points.

Minimum like 10, 12 points per game.

That can win you some games.

Counterpoint, though, sometimes if you're winning your matchup going into Monday night, you might preemptively bench your kicker

so that they don't give you negative points.

So could that really be a Mount Rushmore spot?

It's his Mount Rushmore.

Well, for sure, definitely just based off the numbers,

there's really only so many spots on the Mount Rushmore.

I don't even think we're going to get 12.

No, we go bench.

But, yeah, I'll go wide receiver two.

Okay.

Wide receiver two. I'm about to blow.
Wait, no. Jerry goes back.
Now you're trying. Wait, now I've got to figure out what Jerry was about to pick.
You'll never guess what I was going to pick. You'll pick BFT.
I'm going to go running back 2. Because my running back 1.
Yeah. My running back one, it's a Jordan Howard situation.
I draft somebody that all the magazines tell me to draft. Let me tell you who is the most exciting RB2 in all of football, maybe in all of history.
And this is why we play fantasy football. It's for the juice, okay? Nyheim Hines will score you, I mean, 0 .5 points pretty much 15 out of 17 weeks.
But for two of those weeks, he'll have a three-touchdown game, and that's why we keep coming back. That's exactly.
Nyeheim Hines. Yeah, and when you actually have that running back, too, in your starting line, you feel like a genius.
Oh, God. You just feel it's euphoric.
It's the best feeling in the world to come in there. It's the best feeling in the world.
All right, my pick, I'll go with tight end. I like having a good tight end, especially if you have a really top-level tight end.
It does feel every year like there's two or three tight ends, and it just completely falls off a cliff, and you're playing tight end roulette for the entire season. Kosicki, value, value.
You're going to get that airline value from Mike Kosicki. Okay, you have two picks now.
Oh, you guys ready for this? Yep. When you play in an ESPN league in the 2020 season, and you hear rumors that a tight end on the Saints

is possibly going to start a QB,

and you lock him in a tight end,

and then he's announced as a QB,

but you locked him in and they can't kick him out,

and the whole team is going apoplectic

because you have a QB in your tight end slot, and they're saying it's not fair, it's not fair. And you block them all from your email.
And you play a QB in your tight end slot. So I'm going to say tight end, who is actually a QB? Thank you, Taysom Hill.
Oh, wow. Yeah.
We're not going to predict that. That's great.
Yeah, I was not going to choose that one. That was incredible.
On the other hand, you also can have a J.J. Watt who can play tight end from a defense's standpoint.
Right. And if you have him in a defensive player league, money in the bank.
So money. All right, so your next pick.
You have two. You have one more.
I'm going to go with, if you're in a 2QB league, QB2. Ooh.
QB2. Nice.
Good pick. I can't believe it's still there, but I guess I'll scoop up RB1.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you're kind of going chalk here. Well, I mean, yeah, it's still there.
Yeah. RB1.
It's a good value for RB1. Yeah, love my RB1.
All right. So I'm going to go with kind of a Swiss Army knife position.
I'm going to go with the one that says like W slash R slash T. The other flex.
That's a flex. No, but there's some leagues where flex is just wide receivers and running.
This is a different flex. It's a weird flex, but okay.
We'll run out of positions. But isn't a super flex? No, no, you can go bench.
There's still wide receiver one, defense. Don't tell them.
Okay, sorry. No, I'm aware the defense is still on the board, but I feel like a super flex is a thing.
Okay, then I'll get a super duper flex for my next pick. No, it's a...
Okay, let me Google super flex. Well, we're talking about a standard league.
Okay, all right, that's fine. All right, fine.
You can have it. You can have it.
If you're going to complain about it, I'll change my answer. I'm going to take defense, all right? No, you can have a super flex.
There's your boring fucking pick. It's defense.

You can have super flex.

I'm taking the Ravens defense.

Sorry, Jerry. No, no, no.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

Oh, wow.

I knew it.

I knew it was going to go.

Okay.

All right, I'm going to do a little handcuff in here.

I'm going to go TE1 and TE2.

Oh, wow.

Wait, I have tight end.

He has tight end.

Oh, fuck.

All right, TE2.

Well, he kind of has TE2. I thought he had QB2.
Oh, he has QB. No, I had tight end who is a quarterback, and you refuse to take him out of that slot, and the whole place goes crazy.
And then when it's announced that he's not going to be starting, you write an email back like, oh, sorry, just getting these. Okay.
All right, so tight end two. I'll take another kicker just in case.
Okay, perfect. Love it.
That's an auto-draft. Yeah.
You have two kickers on your team. Well, it's an auto-draft.
You know when you auto-draft and it just loads up all the spots? You can never have too many kickers. Yeah, that's a fact.
You should only have one kicker on your team. No, no, he's right.
He's right. You never have too much leg.
Unless you have, who was a stud last season? Gay? Who was the player who was the amazing kicker? Blankenship? I mean, you should never have more than one kicker. It's his draft, though.
You're right. I'm sorry.
I'm cross-talking. I apologize.
I'm sorry. For my last one.
I had a fantasy football podcast for a few years, Jerry. That's true.
Are you still doing that, Hank? No, Stephen Shea and Ben Mintz are. Nice.
My last one. I'm EPing.
I'm going to take another defense, but it's going to be whichever defense is playing against the Texans. Right.
That's a good pick. The second defense is a great pick.
So every week you have a variation of it. I like it.
And that way you can free up an open roster spot for somewhere else. You don't have to spend a high draft pick on a starting defense.
And by the way, I looked up Superflex. Superflex is becoming one of the most popular formats in fantasy football.
Have you ever used it? I did, yeah. When? Last year.
What league? My old league. Oh, okay.
With the buddies. We also do an auction draft in that one, which I don't care for.
Oh, God, because it's nine hours of your life. Yeah., it's nine hours.
I don't have nine hours. I spend all my money in the first three picks because I just don't want to do it anymore.
All right, I'll go with bench. Okay.
You want to add anything to that? No, I mean, I just, you know. That's every position.
Yeah. All right, so I'll go bench.
You want me to go specific? I'll go bench. The guy would actually be kind of a Darius Slayton type.
The guy that you pick up from, you look through, like, who has the most, you sort it, who has the most points, and he had all his points in the first few weeks, and you're like, oh, he's had 60 points this year. I'm going to pick him up, and he averages, like, two points a week afterwards.
Right. So that will be my bench bench guy who I pick up, think I got a steal, but it's not even close to a steal.
All right. It's my turn.
Jerry's on the clock. I was going to say defensive player two, but I haven't seen a league with two defensive players yet.
Okay. I'm going to go with Bench Player, but let's get into specifics.
Bench Player, who is a player that is really in his last days in the league, but was on one of your winning teams about 10 years ago. So you just recognize his name.
It's the Andre Johnson spot. Yeah, and you just want him on your...
You want to give him a ring. You just want to see his name.
Another ring. It's like the Lakers giving Kobe that contract towards the end of the run.
It's like, thank you for all that you've done. You keep a spot open for one of your old guys.
Jimmy Graham is another spot for that. Jimmy Graham.
You're like, man, Jimmy Graham, this could be a resurgence. Is he at the Seahawks now? No, he's still on the Bears.
He's still on the Bears. Right, right, right.
Right. Yeah, I'm going to keep it.
That's going to be my next pick. Okay.
Okay. All right, so if Superflex is a real thing, give PFT Superflex.
For me, that's Frank Gore. Yeah.
Always draft Frank Gore. Frank Gore, he's still in the league, right? He's still in the league.
No, he's an RB2. Yeah.
Well, we have to have Frank Gore. Frank Gore.
That's our rule. What CJ's league? We're going to let you shop for the groceries.
Okay. Yeah.
Because you're going to be cooking the dinner, but we have to have Frank Gore. Jake, let PFT have Superflex.
If it's something that's real now, then I'm out of date. It's a real thing.
I've never had it. It's a very real thing.
So it's QB. It's QB.
It's the Super League's QB, RB, any offensive player. I think that's what a Super Flex is.
And also the word super is in it. It sounds cool.
Yeah, that's true. The only reason that I took it.
Yeah, but Wednesday night. Jerry, you're free Wednesday night.
Yes. You're going to be doing our draft for us.
Okay. Can we stream it? Sure.
I have to go to a place where I get internet. My kids are on TikTok all the time, so I can't do it at home.
And it's just me just yelling like, get off TikTok, get off TikTok. And I don't want to do that if I'm streaming.
So if you recall, last year I was at a park. There's a park.
There's a 5G tower at a park near my house that I do a lot of streaming and stuff under. Jerry will be out at night in the park by himself on a phone uh it might be west coast so it'll be daytime there you go but uh there's a park uh right on um it's a it's got great 5g if you guys ever need if you're like in a pinch and you're in calabasas i know the perfect spot okay that's it does i mean it's good hopefully hopefully i don't think so like i believe in science but if it has anything to do with covid that 5g stuff i, I'm in trouble.
Yeah. Deep shit.
So, all right. You also need to come up with a name for the team, though.
Not to put you on the spot. We can dialogue offline, as I say, in the business world.
Yeah. Maybe something with Billy and Stolen Valor.
Oh, yeah. Billy's Boots.
Thank you for your cervix. Yeah.
We don't want it to be too offensive because it's going to be public. Public, yes.
Agreed. All right.
Well, Jerry, it's always great to have you. I love you guys so much.
I feel like I really just let it all go. I was on the couch, and I was a little – you could tell I was a little tense when I first got in here.
But you got it. I had to get off my chest.
And football is back. So excited.
And you're doing great in all your relationships. And you have the talk.

I'm on the talk on CBS.

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Alright, great to be joined by a man. Anybody who follows football knows he's Mike Florio.
He founded the website pro football talk, and you can hear him every morning, Monday through Friday, first from seven to 9am on PFT live on Peacock TV, and then nine to 11 on NBC sports network. And Mike also in just about six months or so, your book playmakers will be released.
It's out on March 15th. You can pre-order it right now.
How's everything going, Mike? Well, you know, and Field, it's great to be with you. I just got the final version on PDF of the book, so it's becoming more and more real every day.
And now I have to proofread it yet another time to make sure there isn't a typo in there. It is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
But the search for the needle continues. Well, I've seen you break down contracts and legal situations in the NFL.
So I know you'll find any last minute edits there. So while the world is seemingly in a little bit further ahead state compared to where we were around this time last year with COVID, I don't know that we're out of the woods in the NFL.
Do you think it's possible that COVID could play even a more impactful role this year on the league than it did last season? Well, I think it definitely will, Field. We've been talking about the unvaccinated players, the fact that there's still 7% or thereabouts who refuse to get the vaccine, and the reality that they tested every single day.
The fact that if they have close contact with an infected person, they're automatically out five days. There is this possibility of key players being gone at any given moment.
I don't think we're going to get to the point where we've got so many players who are out that a team can't play and we have to move games around. We could get that.
I don't think we have a game that's wiped out. I could see a day or two movement like we saw last year.
But this this notion that maybe a game will be completely scratched, I hope is not going to be an issue. Now, the league wants to test vaccinated players more frequently going to a one week testing protocol.
The union has floated the idea of doing it every day. If they would ever test vaccinated players every single day, then that could get very interesting because if everybody's tested every day and the restrictions aren't in place for the vaccinated players to move wherever they want to move and they potentially can get infected and that could get to a point where a lot of guys would be out at any given time so the more often they test the vaccinated players the more guys i think will be out on a given game but you know look it's whatever the rules are people don't like the rules the rules are are.
But the more often they test the vaccinated players, the more disruptive it's automatically going to be. It feels like around this time every year, we're singing the same tune.
The defending champion is in a good spot to succeed and repeat. And yet it hasn't happened in nearly 20 years.
Could the Bucs be the exception? Hasn't happened since Tom Brady was quarterbacking the Patriots all the way back from 2003 to 2004. It feels I think what's so funny is that the fact that it has been 17 years makes us wired to say can't happen.

I can't happen. It's been too long.
It doesn't happen anymore.

I remember when I was growing up, you just kind of accept the fact that the king of the hill stays on the hill for a couple of years.

And it was the exception when somebody didn't repeat.

And now we've gone 17 years. They brought everyone back first time since the late 70s that all starters are back on both sides of the ball.
They addressed an area of kind of need. Gio Bernard there last year was a little Sean McCoy.
It was Leonard F kind of ping-ponged around. Now that they're very happy with him, everyone else is back.
I picked the Buccaneers to win it last year. Just dumb luck, close your eyes, throw a dart.
I thought they'd play the Patriots in the Super Bowl. So I was, you know, half right and half completely nuts.
But I'm getting closer and closer to the moment of truth field. I'm probably going to pick them to win it again.
I can't think of a reason not to. You definitely have to pick them to get there out of an NFC that isn't nearly as top heavy as the AFC.
The question is, can they win against the best team that the AFC has to offer? And that should make for a great Super Bowl in Los Angeles. Yeah, a repeat Super Bowl would probably be very entertaining to most of all fans.
All right, Mike, I want to ask you about your last and favorite topic here, your fantasy team. How many fantasy teams you've played in this year and how good is your team looking? Come on, give me a rundown.

shakes i get the shakes anytime this comes up because you know what the guys on pardon my take do they they find creative ways to get me to talk about my fantasy team so they can say nobody gives

a damn about your fantasy team although they use other language than that i've got two leagues if

you care and you probably don't but uh the drafts are coming up I like to do the drafts as late as possible because you never know when injuries are going to happen so no one cares I was set up no one cares set up, you motherfuckers. You're going to have some more fuckers.
That's good. You led that phone.
That's good. You've solicited help from the outside.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You bastards. Good answers.
Everybody, bye playmakers. Order as penance for what you've done to me.
I want a big push for everyone, all of the award-winning listeners, to pre-order Playmakers right now. Well, no, but don't order Playmakers until you've read Quarterback of the Future, your first novel.
You're not going to find that. That's gone.
I think you have the only copy. I think so.
Playmakers is going to be available to anyone who wants it and many who don't. I can't believe that you even like said, hey, the guys on part of my take always fuck with me, but here's my fantasy league setup.
What are you doing? You should never answer the question. Who expects Field he's the perfect guy himself credit to be used this way credit to field i thought about it for like a few weeks i was like who is the perfect guy who is trustworthy that florio will fall directly in the trap and he did it again you did it again he he sets me up for a fantasy show.
Well, actually. If Lake said it's a fantasy show.
Actually, since we have you both here, and Mike, we don't really care from you, but Field, can you actually give our listeners some fantasy sleepers and some advice? I hear it again. Don't do it, Field.
No, don't do it. No, we want to hear from Field.
I want to hear from Field. He's an expert.
I will do this, by the way. And the first time that I reached out to out to mike which was late last week you responded immediately in a way that made me think you were on the scent a little bit because you were like sure i'll join but what's it all about and i was like fuck all right now i gotta i gotta think of something that's creative enough to uh to make sure that you will maintain your obligation on monday afternoon so if we do on fantasy sleepers i I think I might just pander a little bit because I'm trying to go through it of names people either know or names that people have no idea about.
And because there's so much interest in the NFL, a lot of names are not necessarily sleepers. They're just undervalued names.
So Dan Darnell Mooney with the Chicago bears, big cat obviously knows all about him fast. Justin Fields takes the reins, sooner rather than later, I think that offense is good enough to maybe have two relevant wide receivers.
Jacoby Myers for the Patriots, if they get much better play. And Florio was just telling us about how Mac Jones, as we all have seen, has looked good this preseason, has a chance to lead the way.
As I can see, I'm just about to vomit on front of his computer. Dan Ardell from the Panthers, a tight end.
And I'll give you two more names that you already know. A.J.
Dillon from the Packers, second-round pick last year. He's just too good to keep off the field.
Aaron Jones is back. Maybe a couple years from now it's A.J.
Dillon running the show by himself. But I think A.J.
Dillon is going to run through defenders all season this year. And then Kenyon Drake for the Raiders.
Everybody knows them already, obviously, but they're going to have to find some way to score points this year because their defense is not stopping anybody, and they paid Drake too much money to not utilize him. So those are my sleepers.
I got them off from Florio. I love it.
So if they don't want to blame him instead. That's great advice.
That's great advice, Field. I appreciate that.
That is like salt being rubbed into the wound. I have to witness him talking about fantasy football after you guys have burned me again.
I got to sit through an actual legitimate fantasy football. Field's an expert.
Actually, Mike, I texted Field. My exact text was after the reveal, we're going to ask you some real questions right in florio's face so that's this portion of the interview i had a question like i'm trying to struggle i'm struggling with whether or not i can trust any panthers wide receiver given like is sam donald going to have a year like am i going to am i going to be able to trust that offense to score points or is it like stay away from d.
Moore at all costs? I think I would actually be more in than out this year on the Panthers wide receiver. I'm a little bit nervous about the overall volume coming down.
Robbie Anderson had like the quietest 95 catch season in NFL history last year, but Christian McCaffrey played just three seasons. So McCaffrey, if you assume he's on the field, probably going to have like 120 or

so targets, which you take away the volume a little bit from someone like Robbie Anderson,

a little bit more from DJ Moore. But as much as Sam Darnold's a huge question mark after what he

did during three seasons in New York, it's not like he's taking over a job from Tom Brady or

something. He's replacing Teddy Bridgewater and PJ Walker from last season.
So I think there's

actually a lot of reasons this Carolina team could be sneaky. Like I don't think they're good enough

the from Tom Brady or something. He's replacing Kenny Bridgewater and P.J.
Walker from last season. So I think there's actually a lot of reasons this Carolina team could be sneaky.
Like, I don't think they're good enough to compete with the Bucs or even make a playoff push at all, but they're going to score a lot of points this year. So I'm actually sort of generally speaking in on this offense.
All right, so last question for you, Field. So I assume you've done a couple fantasy drafts.
Who did you take in your first round in one of your drafts? Yeah, so I've done too many. It's really kind of a pathetic excuse of a life I lead over here.
But depending on where you go, the first five picks are probably most drafts going to end up being Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Derrick Henry, and Zeke Elliott, likely in that order. With Saquon Barkley not being a certainty for week one.
There are some people that are concerned about using a high pick on him. And so I think usually those are the first five picks that I've seen.
So that those have been a couple of the guys that I've been targeting, but specifically like you're, you're, let's say you're, you're the league. You care about the most.
Who'd you end up with your quarterback? So I've got, so we have, we play in this war room league. It's a 16 team team league at espn all the names that you know people involved uh it's most competitive league that i play in and probably in part because of the pride uh more than anything else i've got the 14th pick on wednesday night so i have not i mean i've got a lot of research to do yeah florio if if florio talks to me ever again after this then i'll also look at a couple thoughts there but I need some help.
But do you have any teams? Do you have any drafts that you've done? I'm specifically like, who do you have on your team right now? I'm interested. I have not done any drafts yet for leagues that are being played.
Like, I've done keeper leagues or dynasty leagues where you do them earlier in the summer. Who'd you keep? How can you ask these? What do you mean? Shut up, Mike.
Shut up. I want to know who we kept.
You love this, Roryo. Shut up.
We've got one team where, you know, sort of every league has a different setup in terms of how many keepers you have. Dalvin Cook is my – there's a league where I get to keep one.
Dalvin Cook was the keeper there. Oh, nice.
That's my choice. Effort went into that one.
I love it. Joe Mixon and Kyler Murray were my two on another that I was able to keep.
and then i've got a couple dynasty leagues where you keep everybody right the only way that you lose a player is if you cut him and then he if someone else picks him up he's theirs forever um so you've got a league where it's like my team is like kittle and odell and me and david montgomery and uh players like that that are mine in perpetuity. If I keep them every year, that's my right.

If not, then they're on to somebody else's roster.

I don't know about everyone who's listening right now.

I assume they all agree with me,

but I could listen to Field talk about his team.

This is awesome.

I'm having fun.

Listen, you are never going to get me again.

You're going to have to get Roger Goodell involved.

You're going to have to get the ghost of Pete Rozelle involved next time. Last year, I got your son involved.
You don't think I can get you again? The only way it's going to happen is if you get Goodell. That's it.
Okay. That's it.
Okay. Mike, you are underestimating us.
Yeah. We have many tentacles.
This is good. This is good.
This is good. I didn't even feel that.
I would have never expected it of all the people in the business feel it is the last one I would have expected it from so well. The best part about this is, Mike, you're just going to be walking around paranoid your entire life, basically.
Anybody that even mentions the word fantasy to you, you're going to be like, where are they? Your tweet from the other night, if I was smart, it would have given me the clue when you sent me your lineup and asked for me to give you input. What did you think about that? What did you think about my lineup, Mike? I don't know.
It's as bad as mine's going to be. All right.
But I should have realized. I should have realized that this was happening.
I should have realized. I need better spider sense.
You don't realize any of this, this because i know when field asked you to come on and i then texted you about something completely unrelated an hour later just to give you a little like oh in communication about something different so it's always a pleasure mike yeah great thanks thank you field you're a champion field we appreciate it we'll have you back to talk fantasy. All protein bars generally taste the same, but not one bars.
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Also, I'd like to point out real quick before we get into it, the fancy football thing with Jerry. So change of pace.
We're not doing the draft tomorrow. I just found out the text thread in CJ McCollum's league has been going nuts.
It got moved to Saturday, so it won't be today, which is what we discussed with Jerry, so it's going to be on Saturday. Also breaking news from that text thread, Jerry Farrar, Turtle, when I told him that Jerry was going to be drafting for us, he just replied, LMFAO, I've been in like 400 leagues with Jerry since 2004.
And I was like, has he ever won? And no i don't think so no no chance no chance all right guys on checks to finish us off and sorry florio but he's never going to trust anything we ever do ever again he's like constantly going to be flinching around us but we will get him next year hey cat commenter cake hank bill and Bubba. I just started a new job and suffered from terrible anxiety,

which caused me to not be able to swallow my food when eating and start choking.

What?

Any advice on how to consume food more effectively?

Soup.

Very easy answer.

Soup.

Soup.

You drink it.

You don't have to chew it.

Is this?

I couldn't tell if this was one of the movie ones.

I want this anxiety.

Like, give me that so I just can't eat.

I would say just embrace the fact that you're going to be skinny and hot for summer 2022 i also think that that could be kind of an advantage in certain business situations if you go out to lunch with somebody and you're like no i'm not going to have anything that that throws somebody off yeah i'm sorry put them off balance a bit. Never order first when you're at a lunch for work.

Always let the boss order first

because then they set the tone.

Whether you're going steak, beer, whatever

it may be. You never want to be the guy who's like,

yeah, I'll have the 40 ounce porter

house and a beer at like one o'clock.

Is this a real thing though that

you lose the ability to

produce? What is it? You can't swallow?

Yeah. I've had a couple girlfriends that I think had bad anxiety.
Yeah. Tons.
New work anxiety. I work for a very blue collar company, but in a managerial role.
Uh-oh. So more white collar day-to-day work.
I have a mechanic who reports to me who smells like complete ass. I have discussed the issues at length with him and don't know what else to try.
I talk to him. He's better for a few weeks, then goes back to smelling like shit.
He does good work, and solid diesel mechanics are hard to find these days. All of my other employees come to me with, hey, how much longer are you going to allow this to continue stuff? How much longer are you going to allow this to continue type stuff? What do I do? Side note, I know why he smells.
He has a makeshift farm with 25 plus dogs and other animals living in his house. Side side note, he drove to another state a few months ago to buy a miniature bowl.
Oh, Billy. Oh, yeah.
All right. So here's my tip because this happened to us at Barstool Sports.
I'm not going to talk about anyone who smells bad because everyone smells great. But did you guys get surprised by the new automatic air fresheners in the bathroom? Yes, I didn't even know.
I went to take a piss and all of a sudden the back of my neck was wet and I was like, what the fuck? And I turned around and there's clearly, there's a big like industrial size air freshener that I think just automatically goes off every 15 minutes. Install one of those in that guy's house when he's sleeping with his 25 animals and maybe by like his workstation because that shit scared probably just in his workstation i actually think that if you're a diesel mechanic it's it's probably a good thing that means that you're the best diesel mechanic if you don't smell good i think it's the animals like you know how billy smells yeah i know i get that for sure but i don't think i want to be smelling fresh.
You're right. It's like I don't want to walk into a restaurant and there's a skinny chef.
Right. I want somebody that looks like they live and breathe that shit.
That's true. My boss is a good friend of mine.
He actually helped me get the job. We golf almost every weekend, and when we ride in the same car, he will constantly ask me about work shit.
Usually he asks me if I had completed a task. Usually I hadn't, so it't so it caused me to make a call text email usually i try to just change the subject or act like i didn't hear him but is there any other way i can get out of the work talk on the golf course if you guys could tell him to fuck off that would be great also because he tells me what to do at work he will always ask me to help him find his ball or to pull the pin for him that's's got to stop.
Whoa. That's just sportsmanship to an extent.

Pulling a pin for someone is –

You've got to be careful.

Find his ball, though?

If they're both like –

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, but I guess how often –

Like if you lost your ball, I would help him find it.

But I wouldn't be like, Hank, go get my ball.

No, no.

Right, if that's what's happening.

If you weren't looking and you made me look, that would be different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's got to be looking with you.

I think you have to stop playing this game, and you have to just fake an injury, and then just golf on your free time. Because that sounds miserable.
Or start betting him a lot of money per hole responsibly. And then that way you guys are just talking shit to each other.
When you step on the course, it should be just like a locker room where it's, okay, it's shit-talking time with the boss. We're not on the clock.
You need to make a move that really sets it aside as being guys' time. Either shotgun and beer on the first hole, get it right off the bat, you know that's play time.
Or just make a very large bet with him, get his mind focused on something else. Or just try to kiss him in the middle of your round and be like, I always get horny when play golf and then he'll never invite you something about the holes this october will be my 10th year working at my engineering firm what percent raise should i be asking for oh i don't know what engine what do engineers do they are they are those to train people they solve like all the world's problems i think do they they make bridges, right? Boston Dynamics.
They make bridges, but it's from making bridges to deciding where the toilet goes in a big building. Yeah, or a cruise ship.
Yeah. Engineers are very smart.
I have nothing but respect for engineers because I know they're way smarter than me. What about software engineers? I feel like that's stolen valor.
That's also very smart. It's very smart, but I think that engineers to me implies that you're building something tangible.
Have you guys ever met an architect in the wild? I've met architects before, back when I was working in real estate. But have you met an architect in the wild? I don't think so, no.
They are rare people. You've met doctors.
You haven't met architects. My neighbors growing up are architects.
Okay, so that counts as one. What do you say, Billy? They're also sometimes assholes.
Architects? Yeah, because they think they're like artists. Yeah, they are.
They're god of their building. Correct.
And they also like... Blueprints for days.
Oh, you know what I really want to do? I would just like to, at one point in my my life walk around with one of those giant tubes that has a blueprint inside of it you look super fucking important if you're walking down the street yeah rolling out a blueprint on a big conference table that's that's the shit that's what you go to architect school i want i want to do that roll out the blueprint or be at a table that's got a map on the table and i'm moving like things around like strategy and logistics all i remember from architects they always wore sweaters and they always got in fights with the general contractors who would be like this building doesn't make sense like you like none of this is going to make sense they'd be like well this is my vision so uh what was the question oh yeah how much i don't know asking for i don't know what's. What is your...
50%. Okay.
Love it. Is that like a 10-year thing? And if they don't give it to you, lean in for a kiss.
And then if they kiss you, just say sexual harassment. Or 50% raise, ask for the kiss, or be like, you don't have to give me a raise, but the next building gets named after me oh i like that that way your

name that's how trump started yep when do we get to see coach dougs again this was oh in the well he's he's been on a barnstorming tour he's throwing up first pitches yeah did you see uh madden added a college mode for 10 teams uh they had that oh not what was the big it was was, yeah, they've had that, and you basically get to be, like, the quarterback for Oregon, and you get to play two playoff games and then get drafted. Got it.
There's a chance. I've had a couple conversations with people, people in power here who would like to see it come back.
We'll see. I'm never saying never.
I'm not going to Urban Meyer retire on you guys. I'm going to be honest and say there will probably be another season.
The last dance. It feels to me, and I don't want to step on toes here, but it's something that you would bring back when it's not an actual football season going on.
Oh, no, definitely not during football. No, no, no, absolutely not.
Here's a guys on chicks on checks. Hey, PMT boys.
Lady boss. So I accidentally fucked my co-worker's dad at a bar this weekend.
Accidentally. And it also turns out.
How do you accidentally fuck someone? You can fall down at just the right angle. On the dick.
It also turns out he's my dad's cousin. Oh.
Wait, wait. So that means that he's your cousin.
That's your second cousin. That's a great example of just like complete.

You're in complete denial, right?

Yeah.

He's related to my dad.

So that's kind of fucked up.

I barely know my dad.

So your coworker is also your cousin.

Wait, yes.

Your coworker.

Yes.

No, your coworker is your like third cousin or second cousin once removed.

Because you're.

Once you get into parents, cousins is when things get so no but you fucked your cousin you fucked your co-worker's dad yeah but that's your cousin dad who's cousins with your dad you'd also cousins second cousins i believe isn't that second cousins second cousins i can never get the cousins yeah that's like i've been to family events where it's like, this is my dad's, like, this is my cousin, and they have kids, but they're never like, this is your cousins.

Did you fuck any of them?

I think it's like third cousin.

No.

That's weird, big cat.

That's weird that you're taking such a strange interest in Hank's sex life.

Where does the once removed come to play?

That's what I'm going to look right now.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think a divorce has to happen.

Oh, is it a divorce?

I don't know.

No, I don't think divorce has anything to do with it. I just think that means that you haven't fucked yet if you're once removed.
Second cousins, it means that the closest ancestor that the two people have in common is a grandparent. If they were any more closely related, they would be...
Wait, second cousin means... Okay, so Jonathan...
Wait, fuck. This doesn't...
I think that's first cousins share grandparents. Yeah, what the hell? Yeah, first cousins share a grandparent with each other.
First cousins share a grandparent with each other. Second cousins share a great-grandparent.
That's right. So this is first cousin once removed.
This is your cousin once removed. You fucked your cousin.
No, this is your second cousin. It's your dad's cousin.
So that means they share grandparents. Yes.
So that means, yeah, you share great-grandparents. Yes.
Yes, so that's second cousin. Okay.
Yeah. Once removed.
No, I don't think there's a removed. Still better than FDR.
We really give FDR a pass. Dude, what about Einstein? But more importantly, he's the smartest guy in the world, and He married his cousin.
Can you imagine if somebody running for president today, they were married to their cousin?

Yeah, I actually could.

That would probably...

Actually, unfortunately, I could.

That would probably nip the campaign in the bud.

But Einstein, dude, didn't he marry his cousin?

Yeah, he did.

He's the smartest guy in the world.

Smartest guy in the world.

Maybe he knows something we...

All right, so there you go.

There's your answer. Einstein did it, and look where he got smartest guy ever alright last one hey guys it's snacks code name snacks I'm the new guy at work and started using the refrigerator in the break room and when lunch comes around I go for my sandwich and it's gone what do you guys think I should do I'm the new guy pretty quiet about it but it's really starting to piss me off I love it any advice thanks guys we do this to Pete we do this What do you guys think I should do? I'm the new guy.
Pretty quiet about it, but it's really starting to piss me off.

I love it.

Any advice?

Thanks, guys.

We do this to Pete.

We do this to all business to Pete.

You got to lightly poison it.

Not to an extent where it will cause serious permanent damage, but put something a little gnarly in there.

No, you don't even have to do poison, quote unquote.

It could just be some shit that causes diarrhea. Oh, it could be some flat liner sauce.
Just spread that on the inside. That's good.
Really hot. And that way you'd also be able to tell exactly who ate your lunch.
Also, the person who's eating the lunch be a respectable human like what we do to all business Pete. If we eat his sandwich, I think Roan does it a lot.
He just leaves a $5 bill in the fridge. That way it's not even like you're stealing it.
Yeah, right. It's totally fair.
Billy, you looked like you had something to say about the lunch gate. Lock all the doors.
No one leaves until you find out. Ooh.
Okay. I like it.
All right, Billy. Give me the top-level recap because it was a long show.
Did Dan Campbell keep a punter on his squad when he cut two kickers? I think so.

So is that who's going to be kicking the field goals? That would be a good move.

That would also be a big Dan Campbell move to be like,

you kick a ball, they kick a ball, what's the difference?

Right, and also be like, this is actually efficiency

because I'm saving a roster spot,

and then the punter misses every extra point, and like, whoops.

Dan Campbell probably also saw that highlight clip

from the Texans preseason game where they had the safety kickoff.

He's like, we're just going to do that.

We're going to do that.

Have a real football player do it.

Genius.

Shout out Chef Donnie and Bobby Lang

for big wins at Rough and Rowdy.

Yo, shout out.

You should have done that on Sunday.

Yep.

She's at the Rizzo.

Oh, did you get in trouble?

No, I meant to do it on Sunday, but I forgot.

Anyway, Oscar Pistorius gets out.

But Cherry Bomb, no.

Shout out Billy, by the way.

He was drunker than Chef Donnie. After winning the fight.
And after. Chef Donnie told me that you were a great guy to have in the corner.
You were in war mode by proximity. It was great.
Story of your life, actually. It kind of means that you want to get back in the ring.
Oh, Billy definitely wants to fight again. Except he's looking a little small.
Who says I'm not going down to weight class? Oh! There are no weight classes. Billy versus Billy? Jake's dad came in to the office today, introduced himself to Billy.
The first thing he said was, you look a lot smaller in person than I thought you would be. Natural alpha.
When you move out of your house and start paying your own grocery bills, it's very hard to maintain the calories. Mass.
You're blaming your parents. It used to be that no one could spot you in your kitchen squat rack.
Now you have Ben Mintz, and now you're saying this? Well, I'm trying to get up there. Billy, I will fund your milk budget.
Oh, perfect.

Will that help?

Yeah, that will help. Okay.
I'm going back to whole milk. You get as much milk as you want.
You tell me at the end of the month, I want an itemized actual receipt of how much milk you drink. If I expense, can I expense my milk? No, no.
I'm saying you're expending it to me. So at the end of every single month, September 1st today, at the end of September, you come up to me and you have a list of every milk that you purchased and drank.
I will pay for it. Perfect.
That's going to be a lot of milk. I know.
I just want to see the list. I want to see how much milk this guy fucking drinks.
The only limiting factor is that we know that Billy knows that it's physically impossible to drink more than two glasses of milk in an hour. That's correct.
You know that challenge, right? It was from that Parks and Rec episode.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Jake's dad has 25.

83.

99.

69.

18.

I can't wait to see how much milk you drink.

What's the over-under?

Camels can swim.

What's the over-under for gallons?

I think Billy can go through 20 gallons of milk.

Can we do any dairy products?

No.

Wow, this is really expanded.

I want ice cream.

Yeah, okay. That's what I haven't been buying.
I said I'd pay for been buying. You're going to buy Jenny's ice cream.
Make your own ice cream with the milk. The most expensive goat cheese in France.
Make your ice cream, okay? Or just drink so much milk you don't want your little cum belly of milk doesn't want any ice cream. Or just go outside when it's cold and chug milk.
Same thing.

Turn it on.

So Blake Griffin was in the studio today.

He might have sabotaged the lotto machine.

Uh-oh.

Oh, wait.

All right, here we go.

99.

8.

Jake Satt has 25.

If Jake Satt hits this, Billy, you have to drink skim milk for the entire month.

Defeats the purpose.

Yeah, I...

64?

64.

So close.

Jake?

Is that Scorigami?

It's not, but he's going to be mad at himself

because that's probably his second number.

That was the year he was born.

Oh!

Damn.

Way to dox your dad, dude.

Sorry, Mr. Marsh.

Wait, is his name...

His name's not Randy, is it? No. That'd it? No.
That was Randy Marsh. Love you guys.
Talking away. I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway. Today is another day to find you shying away.
I'll be coming for your lover's king. Take on me.
Take on me. Take me.
Take on me. I'll be gone.
I'll be gone.

Suddenly, the rest to save.

I'll just end it.

But I'll be stumbling away.

Slowly learning that life is okay.

Say after me.

It's better to be safe than sorry.

Take on me. Take safe than sorry Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

I love you

Take on me

Take on me

By the time you hear the next pop

The folk shall be within you

Take on me within you. Take on me Take on me Take me on Take on me I'll be gone Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take me on Take on me.
Take me.

Take on me.

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