7X Gold Medalist Caeleb Dressel, PacMan Jones & Bobby Laing, Mt Rushmore Of RomComs

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Yeah, kind of a if the sun is hot, why is space cold? I think he's still thinking about it, too. Yeah, I am.
I know I am. So great interview with him.
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So should be a great card. Billy's basically fighting in it, too, as Chef Donnie's...
Actually, know what Billy's doing? Billy's actually stealing valor from Chef Donnie, saying that he's going to be in this fight this week. Yes.
He's going to be training Chef Donnie. He's getting the juices flowing.
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I don't really have anything to start the show with. It's just a kickback.
Let's have a kickback, boys. How about this? Freeform Friday.
Yeah. I'm part of my take.
Okay. So let's get it started.
Freeform. The Jaguars? Oh, clear.
Oh, yeah. Well, we're going to get to that with Keel Dressel.
Freeform. I think the Jaguars already hate Urban Meyer.
I think that Trevor Lawrence hates Urban Meyer. Yeah.
Because you know what Urban Meyer is doing? He's doing the old Mike Martz offense. I'm not going to leave anybody in there to protect you.
Yep. And Urban Meyer is already thinking about shopping for houses in South Bend.
We're going to get our guy Pete Prisco on in a week or so to preview some of the NFL stuff.

We also have Warren Sharp as well.

But he had a report, or I don't know if it was an article,

but he said that Pete Prisco is an article.

He said, I've heard some of the players aren't thrilled with him either,

including having a microphone on the field,

one of his assistants on the field during practice with a boom mic,

telling everybody to hydrate and hustle and get to the next period. Listen, we kind of alluded to this when Urban Meyer got hired, but a professional athlete who's getting paid millions of dollars, getting yelled at to hydrate and hustle, I just feel like there's a better way.
Well, so Urban Meyer, you remember taking the tour of the Ohio State facility, and he actually thinks that he is in the military. Correct.
Urban Meyer is cosplaying as a military guy. He's cosplaying as Billy.
As Billy. He wishes he was Billy.
He has like a poster. No, not even a poster.
The walls are painted in the weightlifting facility that just says, train like a United States soldier. Yes.
And so he's bringing that mentality. I don't think it's going to work.
I think that he's going to be out of the league. This is right now a clip that we're saying that is absolutely going to be used against us in like two years.
That's okay. No, you know what? I've said it when he got hired.
I don't think it's going to work. Hot takes.
Oh, Teddy Bridgewater. Yes.
So wait. I mean, you're going to say it that way? Teddy Bridgewater.
I love Teddy. Good for Teddy.
You're not going to introduce it as the end of the era? No, Big Cat, here is the main takeaway from Teddy Bridgewater being named the starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos. He is 23-8 against the spread in his last 31 starts as an underdog.
Yes. So remember that.
I'm not going to ask Jake to set any reminders. Jake, I know that your calendar is probably pretty full.
Maybe this can go on Billy's public reminder for everybody to partake in. Which he didn't make.
Which he is in the process of making, I'm sure. When Teddy Bridgewater is an underdog, bet on Teddy Bridgewater.
What do we say about, though, the end of the Drew Locke era? It was a fun era? Minor setback for a major comeback. He's still got the swag.
Listen. Do you think that he would have been benched earlier if he didn't do the dancing thing? Probably, yeah.
I mean, that went a long way towards marketing him. Also, if he didn't have that one awesome incompletion in practice that Von Miller told us about, that's the sort of thing that'll keep you around for a little bit longer.
John Elway just can't find. I saw the stat.
It was 11th starting quarterback since Peyton Manning. Now, obviously, one of them is whoever they started,

that guy off the street, like the third or the seventh wide receiver last year.

The practice squad wide receiver.

Yeah, who was great.

His name is escaping me.

So that doesn't really count.

But 11 quarterbacks.

I mean, come on.

John Elway.

You want to see how many of them we can name?

Okay. Trevor Simeon.
Brock Osweiler. Wait, wait.
Get the list. Get the list.
All right. All right.
Okay. Let me use it.
Trevor. Wait.
Brock. Brock, Trevor, Drew Locke.
I think, I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater would be this, the... Yeah, that would be the 11th probably.
Probably the 11th. Hmm.
Wow. Just a lot of empty space.
Oh, oh. Case Keenum.
Case Keenum. Oh, yeah, that's right.
He was there for a year. He was the fix for a while.
He actually started all 16 games in 2018. Yeah, he was the big fix.
Yeah, I don't know. This is bad.
Hold on. We got to have at least one other.
Blake didn't start, right? No. They're too much of a coward to let him play.
Because the one that you'll be like, oh, I should have known. It would have been solved if it was him.
Simeon's Northwestern, right? Yep. Trevor Simeon.
Fuck. This is going to fuck me up.
Oh, Paxton Lynch. Yes.
Yep. Fucking hate that guy.
Nice guy. Because he's now completely out of the league.
That's one of those first-round picks that doesn't get mentioned enough. I think he got signed somewhere.
Maybe. Yeah, he's with somebody.
Why can't Josh Rosen work out there? Yeah, the Saskatchewan Rough Riders. Oh, nice.
There you go. Paxton, way to keep it going, even though you cost me all that money in that bowl game.
All right, give us the rest. Flacco started eight games in 2019.
Brandon Allen, three games in 2019. And then this past year, Jeff Driscoll, Brett Rippon.
And then it says Phillip Lindsey one game, but I don't know if that was some wildcat thing. This is a Wikipedia.
That might have been the start. That might have been the guy who started.
Yeah, we should have gotten Jeff Driscoll because he is Blake Bortles' enemy. Yep, and obviously Joe Flacco was a big miss.
Yeah, that was a big miss. That's okay, though.
That rocket arm was just never meant to be in that altitude. Joe Flacco.
Kyle Orton? No. Well, he's older.
Not since Peyton Manning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But either way, that's, yeah, Teddy Bridgewater. I actually, I think not just because of the stat you just said about Teddy Bridgewater being an underdog, but this team, the Broncos this year, will be a bet-on team for me because Teddy Bridgewater is perfect for Vic Fangio's defense, like a quarterback that's not going to make mistakes, not going to lose you the game, let the defense win you the game.
I feel like they'll be frisky. I think that if I look at a stat line after the game and it says 148 yards, one touchdown, zero interceptions.
Let me take it back. 148 yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions.
That is a Teddy Bridgewater stat line. 14 for 20.
Yep, that's a Teddy Bridgewater stat line. He's a perfectly fine quarterback.
No, I like Teddy. He's a nice guy.
Everywhere he's gone, everyone's loved him. Yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah, that is. Oh, Little League World Series going on.
Who's still in it? Hawaii? I watched the Hawaii game last night. Hawaii.
Bummed me out so bad to have that pitcher. Oh, that pitcher from North Dakota, South Dakota.
Gavin Weir. Incredible.
They call him mini Chris Sale. He's given up one hit, I think.
Or no, one run in the entire summer. Four no-hitters, right? Four no-hitters.
Incredible, incredible. I love a dominant pitcher.
That's what you kind of remember from Little League World Series. Kyle Carter-esque.
Yeah, Daniel Monte. I got super bummed out mona davis yep mona davis one one scrub they team didn't even win didn't even win uh the don't even get to big al oh yeah big al didn't even make it to williams court uh he likes hit dingers though the stat that they showed the kid was like favorite actor dwayne johnson and i just got so sad yeah.
I was like, wow. So he does no idea about the people's elbow.
He has no idea what, you know, smell what the Rock's cooking. Who calls him Dwayne Johnson? I didn't know the Rock is a wrestler.
All right. That it was a total bummer of a night between that and Laura Rutledge posting Paul Feinbaum's TikTok.
And I was about to roast it. And then I had the realization, credit to me for having a little self-awareness, that Billy comes up to us like four times a week and is like, here, say a Pokemon guy and then scream.
And then it just goes out on the internet and I never see it again. I have no idea.
You know what would actually be a- Go follow our TikTok if you want to see it. You know what would be a much better TikTok account than whatever they're trying to do with Paul Feinbaum? Is just have somebody follow around the TikTok person for Paul Feinbaum and then videotape them while the TikTok person is explaining what dance to do and just watch Paul Feinbaum's brain start to bubble out of the top of his head trying to figure out what's going on.
I want to see the behind the scenes of that stuff. But that picture in the Little League World, what's his name? Gavin Weir.
Gavin Weir. What I like about him is he throws junk.
He's not like... It's bad for your elbow.
But guess what? Legends live forever. That's loser talk.
That's loser talk right there. My dad wouldn't let me throw a ball until I was 13.
Maybe that's why. You would have been in the big leagues.
I'm just jealous. Listen, he's from South Dakota.
If he wins the Little League World Series, he's a legend forever. Yeah, that's true.
I think a lot of these kids, they get up there when they're like 13 years old, and they're the ones that grow before everybody. They're almost six feet tall.
They can throw 72 miles an hour, which is the equivalent. I always love the equivalent where it says, this is like trying to hit 115-mile-an-hour fastball.
I take it to the moon. Yeah.
Listen, you just get contact on that. You let the pitch work for you.
I would love. You don't have to swing hard.
I'd love to fucking just jack home runs off these little kids. But this guy.
It's like a dream of mine. This guy throws.
I don't know about that. You think Gavin Weir could strike me out? Yes.
Well, he could strike me out, but you don't think I'd hit one out of the park? Not on a Little League diamond, no. It's like 200 feet.
Hank, it's so much easier on a Little League diamond. Dude, that's gas.
It's a pop-up. For me, you just make contact and the ball's going.
Reach out. I think that would be a good video.
It would be a hilarious video. I don't...
That kid throwing 72 miles an hour. It has to be a 12-year-old.
Or 13. I think that Gavin Weir would strike us all out because he throws that hook.
He's got the 12-6 curveball, but if you go up against one of the guys that's throwing 70 miles an hour, I would absolutely be able to take a lefty. I could go yard off a lefty that's throwing 70 miles an hour.
What is it? So what's it adjusted? 115 or something? Something like that. 190, whatever? They don't really know.
225. All right, 100 coming in, 100 going out.
105 going out. Exit VLO.
The spin rate is almost non-existent on those fast fast it would be a great video no movement i also loved a little just to shout out all the uh kids every little league team has that one kid who hasn't grown yet and he's he's just like a little spark plug second baseman second baseman or catcher sometimes like it's just always funny to see that kid they also showed the clip of the kids in the uh in the outfield. And it showed them like hanging out and just showing each other the video of a hot girl on their phone.
That was as pure as it gets. It was.
But I think that that needed to be left off the broadcast. Oh, why? Because that's just guys time.
That's guys being dudes. You don't need.
That's personal time. That's team building and bonding for these kids.
That's what it's all about. Hank, would you have fucked her?

No comment. I don't know.

She was probably like 13.

No, that was a grown woman.

She was an adult.

She looked like she was great at whatever job

she chose to do.

It was a very grown woman.

I have an all-time guess what team

this guy's on now.

You guys might know it, but I completely spaced on this.

Okay.

Deshaun Jackson.

Oh.

Oh.

Yeah.

I mean, he was on the Eagles.

Yep.

But he got hurt.

Yep.

He's obviously on the Bucs a couple years ago.

I feel like I know this.

God damn it.

He's on the football team for a while.

Pinched J. Gruden's nipple.

The Raiders.

Oh, this is going to drive me nuts. I think I researched it the other day.
What is it? Did you? I think. I don't.
God damn it. He's on the football team for a while.
Pinched Jay Gruden's nipple. The Raiders.
Oh, this is going to drive me nuts. I think I researched it the other day.

What is it? Did you? I think. I don't remember.

Is it the Rams? Yeah, he's on the Rams.

I didn't know that. I did not know

that. That is crazy.

Just an update. To refresh your memory,

Emmanuel Sanders, a bill.

Corey Davis, a jet.

Bledgupree, a tight end. Nelson Aguilor

is on the Patriots. Yep.
What the hell? According to Mad to Madden. You know he is.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, I buy it. And then, of course, the Sean Jackson is a Ram.
Something to keep updated on. That is good.
That's a good update. Where's Sammy Watkins? Ooh, I just saw this today.
Sammy Watkins is a Panther? Wow. Raven.
Raven. Raven.
Wow. Okay.
That one would have shocked me week one. Thank God we've gotten up to speed.
That's a classic Raven signing too because for the last 30 years, it feels like the Ravens are like, you just need to get a true wide receiver one for the quarterback, and then the Ravens are going to be a great team. I'll make a list for you guys.
And then Sammy Watkins is their true wide receiver one that they've signed. Yeah, for a while it was – what was it? Well, Hollywood Brown is good.
Yeah, Torrey Smith. Yeah, true wide receiver one.
That's all it takes for the Ravens to be pushed over the top. That was a good one.
I did not know Deshaun Jackson was on the Rams. I actually was thinking about this today because Matt Stafford's getting all the love, and I'm on the record saying Matt Stafford's a Hall of Famer, what if he stinks? Yeah.
Because everyone is expecting him to take this next step. He's finally with a franchise that can support him, and he's got Sean McVay in the defense.
But what if he just isn't good? Yeah. So I read the article in ESPN that Seth Wickersham did where it's's just profiling Matt Stafford and his new home in LA.
I think it just came out today. And I think the entire time Matt Stafford just was not liking Seth Wickersham's questions.
Because all the answers that he gave were like, I don't want to talk to you about that, Seth. And so Seth had to write an article that was basically what he thinks Matt Stafford thinks.
Really all that I took away from the article was he's skinny and he's looking skinny here's my big concern he signed two endorsements endorsement deals this offseason one with fanatics that's pretty normal second with a yoga apparel company so no more wide nine matt stafford no more fat stafford he's like hollywood now damn so part of what I used to like about Matt Stafford is he had a little bit of that chunk going. But it goes back to something we always talk about is like never try to be too great at anything.
Matt Stafford has the most pressure he's ever had in his life right now because he can't. Maybe I'm a coward and the inner competitor in me is not up to par.
But it would have been bad to just stay with Detroit the whole time and just be like, well, it wasn't my fault. It was the Lions' fault.
Now it's like, okay, you have to be good. Well, think about it.
We look back at the careers of Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders so fondly because they've got the added sympathy. That's better because if Barry Sanders was – let's just say that he played on the Raiders for a while.
Okay. And the Raiders lost a few times in the playoffs.
Maybe they were in that tuck rule game. Barry Sanders, I don't know.
Was he still? That's probably after Barry Sanders. A little after, yeah.
But let's just say that they were in the playoffs a couple times. He lost a couple of playoff games.
There would be people talking like Barry Sanders couldn't win the big one. Right.
That's never a question for a Lions player. Right.
And it's kind of like I'd rather be underrated my entire life than be underrated and then be proven to be properly rated. At least don't go to a big market to try to prove yourself.
And the Sean McVay angle and the fact that their defense is so good. I don't know.
No pressure, Matt. It's a lot of pressure.
It's a high bar for them. What would you consider to be a disappointing season for the Rams? Not making the playoffs is absolutely that.
Yeah, that's very bad. They have to make the playoffs.
I think they need to win two playoff games. No, they need to get to the one.
Divisional round. If they win the wild card game, they need to be in two playoff games.
Yes, correct. Which would be exactly what they were last year.
That's why I'm thinking maybe... They need to get to the NFC Championship game? They need to be in two playoff games and cover the spread in the second one.
Yeah, they need to be very close. They need to go to Lambeau and keep it close.
Yes, if they go to Lambeau and don't get blown out, I would consider that a win. Yeah.
So, alright. I mean's, I mean, I think that's kind of everything.
We're still, we're in like that eye of the hurricane where it's like about to get crazy for us. And what better time than now to do a stress test? Yes.
Let's do it. So we didn't, we skipped it on, on Tuesday.
People were mad at me. I skipped it due to time.
We were trying to finish up before hard knocks started. I don't think Jake took any offense.
None whatsoever. Right.
I know that because we know each other very well. But either way, let's do the stress test, which I have already failed.
Yeah. So we have 10 multiple choice questions.
We can do both of you guys. But I think we should.
Okay. We'll do Hank too.
Hank too. That's another great unintentional alpha by Jake right there.
Yep, yep. Whoops, I guess I just forgot about Hank.
Keep that same energy, people, who are mad at me, to be mad at Jake for just walking all over Hank right there. I apologize, Hank.
I just knew that Jake, when we ask him to do something, he will do it, and he will do 110% of it. i knew that he had spent a considerable amount of time preparing for the stress test and i'm also interested to see we were gonna do it yeah we were we just we were running out of time i'm interested to see what jake thinks that a stress test is because i think when we talked about the stress test we may have been doing it under the idea of like a john taffer bar rescue stress test where they see what you can handle.
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So every question has the options.

Never, almost never, sometimes, fairly often, or very often.

Okay.

The same answers every time.

So in the last season.

Wait, let me write that down.

Yeah.

Always.

No, it's never, almost never, sometimes, fairly often, very often.

I'm going to get tripped up with almost never and sometimes.

Sometimes.

That's like medium rare. Basically one to five.

What are the other two?

All right.

Can we just do one to five?

Yeah.

So one is most stressed.

Five is least stressed.

Well, one is never.

Five is always.

Very often.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Wait.

Five is always.

Always.

Very often.

Got it.

In the last season, how often have you been upset because of something that happened unexpectedly? Football only. Five.
Five. Five.
It's an easy five. So we're going to get a score one to 40 of how stressed you are at the end of these 10.
Okay. I feel like you guys might have identical tests.
Yeah, let's just do one test. Yeah.
All of us together. We'll decide if we have a debate about any of them.

Okay.

In the last season, how often have you felt that you were unable to control important things in your life?

Football only.

Four and a half?

You know, I'm going to say three.

Well, last year was COVID year, too, so there was a lot.

Oh, yeah.

No, that's a good point.

There was a lot out of our control.

Last year was like a I'm just glad to be here year.

Four? Yeah, we can call it a four. Okay, so fairly often.
When you're in the NFC East, it's pretty easy to just let things happen and you end up on top. Yeah, I think this one's easy.
How often have you felt nervous and stressed? Five. Yeah.
You guys are going to have a high score, I think. Felt confident.
Oh, no, duh. Felt confident about your ability to handle your personal problems.
I'd say it's a three. I think that my personal problems are my football problems during football season.
What's three again? Sometimes. Yeah, three.
Yeah, sure. Three.
Three. All right.
Question five. Felt that things were going your way.
Five. Never.
So one. One.
Never. Things were going my way.
I feel like Hank had a pretty good season. He did.
No, the Patriots stunk.

Yeah. This is football only

not gambling. No, it's both.

The Bears made

the playoffs last year. Yeah, they had to

invent a new playoff game just so we could

get embarrassed on Nickelodeon.

One. So never.

Question six.

How often have you found that you could not cope with all the things you had to do Not cope Four We still did the show Yeah four Been able to control irritations in your life Never Two Almost never I have to watch games with Big Cat i have to watch games with big cat i feel

like that's i have to watch games with hank no i'm saying yeah no it's not bad for me i'm saying for you all right so almost yeah it's out of your control correct uh how often have you felt that fourth quarter i got every bet that's winning you got every bet that's losing kind of feel yeah how often have you felt that you were on top of things yeah what on top of things two you always For football?

Oh, football only.

We're on top of it all.

Yeah, football only.

On top of things? Two? Almost never? For football? Oh. Football only.
We're on top of it all. Yeah, football only.
On top of things, yeah. No, but think about everything that goes on.
Do you think that you're paying attention to keeping in touch with friends? No, but football only. Football only.
When you're sitting in there watching Red Zone. Right.
Say the question again. How often have you felt that you are on top of things? Football only gets a five.
No. Chaos, right? There's five is...
Five is very often. No, definitely not very often.
Dude, when there's six games going on... You guys always talk about a game that you're like, are you sure that game happens? Yeah, and I'm like, hey, keep an eye on that.
And then I'm like, why didn't anyone keep an eye on that? That over's going to die. The afternoon games are where we get really thrown off on this because there are like two weeks a year where they give us six games or it feels like all the games.
So I'm going to say three because if it's a normal schedule, it's good. If it's one of these fucked up schedules, then it's much, much more difficult.
But I'm thinking, think about just when we get to the witching hour. You're not on top of everything.
There's no way any of us are. If it was Scott Hansen on the TV.
Two. I think two is two.
I actually like Siciliano. I feel bad shitting on him so much.
Sometimes. All right, fine.
Go three. All right, sometimes.
Two more. The penultimate question.
How often have you been angered because of things that happened that were out of your control? Five. Six.
Always. Super always.
How often have you felt difficulties were piling up so high that you could not overcome them? Six. Give that one a six.
No, that's probably a three. Difficulties piling up that you can't overcome.
We always overcome. In football? We always overcome.
I don't know. If you guys have a bad betting day, you come in here, you do the podcast.

Yeah, we always overcome.

That's true, but in the moment when I'm watching the early slate.

But you bounce back for the late slate.

Even one loss.

Even if I go like 5-1 during one part of the afternoon.

Maybe we deviate here because I always bounce back.

Get off the mat.

You say 1.

I never lay down on the mat.

You say 5 and you say 3.

I wallow.

Agree at 4.

I wallow in my pity.

Yeah, but you eventually get off the mat. Eventually.
Say the question one more time. How often have you felt difficulties were piling up so high that you could not overcome them? You can always overcome, PFT.
I know. You're not giving yourself enough credit.
But sometimes you feel like you can't. No, but you always overcome.
Sometimes you feel like you can't, though. I agree with you about the momentary feeling, but you always show up.
You always get

back up. You hit...

You're never down for 10

count. We'll give it a 3.

3.

3.14159. You don't give yourself

enough credit. You got resilience.

You got grit. Alright, you guys out of

40 have a stress score of 31. That's

high. And that's preseason.
What's good? Probably under 20. Okay.
Not a great baseline. We'll do on midseason and postseason.
Yeah. It's going to be off the charts.
31 out of 40 stress score. So preseason.
There we go. Yeah.
I mean, so the reason why we started this is because you said that when I said like, or we both said a few months ago that it's harder to watch football than play football. More stressful.
More stressful. Yeah.
And that is. Which is true.
It's true. We just proved it.
Wait, wait. Our original thesis.
If you go back and you read through these questions, I'm going to pretend like I'm, let's just say I'm C.D. Lamb.
Okay? I'm a wide receiver. I play on the Dallas Cowboys.
Ask me some of those. Just pick a couple questions at

random. Alright.

Felt

that you were unable to control important things

in your life. One.

Yeah. Because all these questions

they can actually affect the change.

They can control. Yeah.
Me as a viewer

I can't. Right.
I really can't

control. I'm at the whims of the

gods. Although I do think Matt Nagy would probably have

just as much stress because he can't control anything.

That's true. So how often does CeeDee

Thank you. I really can't control it I'm at the whims of the gods Although I do think Matt Nagy would probably have just as much stress Because he can't control anything So how often does CeeDee Lamb feel nervous and stressed? I don't think he does Because he's like I'm going to go out there and just be really fast and awesome See this is the thing They control it It proves that watching football is By a factor of 10 more difficult than playing football They are the the operator of the roller coaster.
We're just so long for the ride. So we prove it our point.
Yeah. There we go.
I'd like to see one of them trade positions with us for a weekend. They couldn't do it.
Don't think so. They couldn't do it.
All right. Let's get to our interviews.
So we got Caleb Dressel coming up. Awesome interview.
We got the best compliment we can ever get after an interview. He said to Peggy, who booked him.
Shout out, Peggy. Shout out, Peggy.
That he had so much fun, and he's been burnt out from doing interviews, but he could have stayed on with us for an hour. So that's the best compliment we get.
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And weather whatever in Ariat work gear. And here he is, Caleb Dressel.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is a seven-time Olympic gold medalist.
You saw him in Tokyo. You're going to see him this weekend if you tune in to CBS.
It is this Saturday. So tomorrow when we're airing this, the ISL in Naples, Italy.
So it's a professional swimming league in its third season. It is Caleb Dressel.
Caleb, thank you for joining us. Now, I don't want to minimize all the gold medals that you've won and the incredible accomplishments you've had in the pool, but to kind of break down the fourth wall, fifth wall, I never get that right, we were supposed to interview you yesterday, and we got a message that you were saving someone's life out of a ditch, and we been sitting here we haven't moved out of these seats for 24 hours wondering what actually happened so we have to start the interview with that what happened okay so i keep um i keep a winch a toe trap a toe strap and a tree strap in in the in my truck in case i need it.
And yesterday I was going down the highway right before turning down the road that me and Megan live in. And I passed a guy that had a trailer.
It was in one of the free candy vans, like the creepy white vans. And there's a trailer on the back with a bunch of rocks.
And he was stuck. My guy tried to do a U-turn and he got bogged down.
It's been raining a lot here in Florida. So he was stuck.
And there was a cop right behind him. This is what I understand.
There's a cop right behind him who was just sitting there. So I turned around.
I pulled up next to him. I was like, hey, do you have chains or a strap? He's like, I got nothing.
And the cop behind me is just telling him to move out of the way because he's blocking traffic. So the cop was just sitting there, I guess, him doing nothing so i had my toe strap on me um and i i think i actually like hurt my truck because it's a it's a stick shift and it's not really made for pulling so i was just riding first gear getting this guy unstuck and my truck still stinks from the bird clutch so i got the guy out super nice guy he's a great guy i got the guy out and that's why i had to miss our interview yesterday so i apologize but i'm not really not really sorry no no apology necessary you left out the part where the ditch was filling up with water yeah and you had to get him out of there asap oh yeah there was a bunch yeah there's a bunch of gators swimming in um he was stuck yeah it was it was i saved his life i really did listen oh for like We've had you know things pop up on our end on on a guest's end in the grand scheme of things when we got the text being like caleb is saving someone out of a ditch we're like okay that's that's actually a very fair reason to reschedule this well also credit to us because we said you know what let him take care of this let him save the person's We don't need him rushing to us.
So we kind of saved that person's life, too, by giving you permission to miss the interview. Yes, true.
Yeah, you gave me permission. I appreciate it.
Yes, we're all heroes. You and Tim Tebow, the two athletes out of Florida that have saved the most lives.
All right, so Caleb, let's talk some swimming swimming though so uh incredible Olympics uh we watched you in Tokyo now you're gonna swim again this weekend I I mean aren't you tired yeah yeah I'm really tired um you know I don't know if I'm exactly ready for it I'm looking forward to I'm looking forward to seeing my teammates again and the league it really is fun I mean I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bullcrap anything and say like oh yeah I'm super excited I'm super in shape to go do this I'm not but I think this is the best way to go get back into my routine to get back into race shape and I get to be around a bunch of people who are in the same boat as me so I think that'll make it a little bit easier uh I mean I've swam a couple times since being back I think I've swam five times since being back from the Olympics Like I needed, I needed a break and this was a little closer than I would have liked, but this

is the cards I've been given. So I'll be ready to go looking forward to it.
Probably not going to

swim that fast, but it's fine. Okay.
Wait. So I have a follow-up question to that because this

is fascinating to me. So you raced in the Olympics, you won gold medals.
You were awesome.

How quickly do you lose that peak, peak of performance does it happen that quickly yeah it did so if i if i take two days out of the water i'm gonna feel i'll feel like trash really the following on that two days it's such a touchy sport i mean every everyone's different i mean it bops out like you're not actually out of shape, but so basically we're training for, because of COVID this year, my, my base was like an 18th month, 18 month base where I had 18 months of training, which is way more than I've ever had. And then, and then you start, it's called taper.
You start to drop the training and get a little more rest on your belt. So you're not like, you're not swimming tired.
You can swim basically off of all the work you put in so then you start to taper for about a month and then you go to the meet and then you take three weeks off so basically your training has been slowly going down for like a total of two months um and then you got to get back into shape with everything yeah so when you're at the meet you're technically you're technically like in the olympics i'm at like my peak of swimming with doing less training so it's weird it's a very weird weird sport and then you take time off and then then everything just goes downhill after that yeah just two weeks off is all all it takes like are you said two days two days being in the water? It feels like shit. Two days you won't be out of shape, but you'll feel it.
But two weeks out of the water, you'll be out of shape. I mean, I'm not fat or anything right now, but I'm not in swim shape.
You look kind of chunky right now. No offense.
You look like a pork. It's the new iPhone.
I'm on actually the wide-angle lens. I might be wide.
Well, I was going to ask you, is it okay that I've kind of low-key been objectifying you and I wanted your permission because I have been saying that you're very good-looking. You said hot.
I said hot. Hot.
He's a hot bod. He's a hot.
One of those hots. So is that okay that I was saying that? Yeah, that's totally fine.
Okay, cool, cool. I love it.
I've got a couple of really dumb questions about swimming because I know how to swim. I've been in several pools, but I don't know any of the intricacies about the sport.
Is there such a thing like are certain pools faster than others? Can the water be fast? Like Tokyo, was that fast water?

That.

Tokyo was fast water.

The only knock I have on Tokyo is like for NCAA swimming, they double, what do you call it?

They have two lane lines for each lane because the water gets real choppy.

So if you look at NCAA championships like my senior year, all the way through, they have two lane lines for each lane because there's so much water being displaced and for some reason FINA only does one so my only knock was Tokyo was a little choppy but that was definitely the best pool I've ever been in best and fastest for sure okay it doesn't matter like are all the pools the same depth no it's it's weird so temperature the temperature they usually aim for is like 78 to 80 degrees i guess it sounds hot but like 78 you're gonna be shivering if you're not moving the whole time yeah that's good race temperature yeah that feels cold yeah yeah so good i like it around like 80 because i don't want to jump in and plus we're're shaved during all this. So there's no body hair at all to keep us warm.

So I like 80 because you can warm up and feel fine.

And plus my races don't last long.

So it's not like I'm going to overheat.

But yeah,

all there's a lot of like little different things each pool has,

but the depth is usually somewhere from like eight to 10 around there.

I like nine feet,

nine feet's kind of,

kind of where I work with. And then the blocks are are the same and then sometimes the gutters are different like that i think that's what makes a pool fast is that the gutters displace the water over the edge so like basically in tokyo you could just walk right into the water you don't have to step up on a ledge or anything and that helps the water displace over to the side and the pool get less choppy got it like an infinity pool almost yes okay yeah yeah like one of the rooftop pool yeah that's exactly so that kind of makes sense so uh so a pool can be slower if there's more like waves bouncing off the wall and then coming back to the middle right and that's why you want to be in one of the middle lanes when you swim yeah and if it if it's like if a pool is shallow, you can't get under the wave coming off of the walls.
And sometimes the water. Yeah, if the water doesn't have anywhere to go, you're just going to get smacked around in there.
As I swim in the ocean. Oh, go ahead.
Here's another really dumb question. Is the pool actually blue? Is the water blue or is the pool blue? No, the water.
The water is clear. Everything in Tokyo,o everything was what yeah it's water i'm just blow your mind trying to back you up on this i don't i don't want to like absolutely bash right here but i think the wall the walls the walls are white the bottom's white and the water's clear did it look blue on tv yeah it always looks blue right did it i? Did it? I don't remember it.
I don't remember.

Water always looks blue in the Olympics when you're swimming.

Am I the crazy one right now?

Hank's saying no.

You see it too.

Bubba's colorblind, so we can't trust him.

But, yeah.

No, I think the bottom is blue.

Yeah, the bottom is blue.

The bottom's blue?

Yeah, the bottom's blue and the walls are blue. So the water's clear? The water's clear.
Yeah. Are you colorblind? So I have no idea what I'm talking about.
It's basically what's happening. Yeah, I'm looking right now at a picture.
It seems like the bottom and the walls are blue. You spend your entire life in a pool.
Have you ever taken a glass and then dipped it in and then pulled the water out? He's been in the pool.

The water's clear and the lining of the pool

was white.

I trust Caleb.

That's blue.

That's the color blue.

You can't see it, but it's blue.

The bottom

is blue. It has to be blue.

How is this possible that it's white It's science man I'm so scared I'm so scared to say anything right now Because it's going to be wrong It's white and clear How come it looks blue It looks blue Is that like saying the sky is clear But when you look up because of like Bullshit likeraction and stuff, the sky is blue? I got a little bit of a better picture. I think it's a very light, light blue, but then the lines are blue, so maybe that's why it looks blue? What lines are blue? The lines on the lanes.
Oh, the actual ropes. No, on the bottom of the pool the lines oh the t yeah no the t's were okay this is the hill this is the hill i'm dying on right now the t's were definitely black black those are usually black yeah all right uh yeah it looks blue it definitely looks blue uh all right so i mean i now i'm just blue Do you pee in the pool? How quickly after you get into the pool do you pee? Let me rephrase that.
No, I saw what Ryan – Ryan, Logs got asked this question years ago, and he got put on a burner, so I can't answer that one. I got to learn from him.
That means you do. That's you saying – Yeah, that's like, oh, it's a HIPAA violation to ask me if I piss the pool.
Everybody pees in the pool. Yeah, exactly in the pool yeah exactly yeah yeah nobody no swimmer ever does so when you're racing and you're doing a 50 meter or 100 meter do you have even time to see the guys next to you like you can you feel it like all right they're very very close or i got this um yeah i know it's weird before every race i know i know who's gonna be who's gonna be the'm going to be racing in that heat.
You know, you get a certain feel for it. I knew Hunter Free was going to be the Australian Kyle Chalmers, who's a great guy.
I knew Hunter Fly was going to be Christoph Milak. You know, you have a feel of where these guys are going to be.
And Kyle and Hunter Free was actually two actually two lanes over from me. Um, but I could still, you can almost feel, you could just feel where they're at.
Um, cause I could, you can see water being displaced and the peripherals on my goggles are actually pretty good. Um, so I could tell he was going to be right there and you know, when you're swimming out front and open water, like it's a, it's a different sensation.
So I didn't have that in any race because most of my races were close um but you can you can definitely see guys next to you and then off the walls when you turn you can get a feel of where everybody's at for sure and then touching the pad at the end has there ever been a race that you've been in where you like touched it and you're like but it didn't work like your buzzer's broken in a game show no not not me but I've had teammates where had teammates where like they'll miss it with their hand and then they'll they'll trigger it with their head or something like that and then all they do is um they usually have a manual timers behind them as well in case they have to go back and see but i've seen people miss it i don't think i ever have okay i've seen a couple teammates nice nice i i heard that you uh you like to pick up one piece of trash a day. Is that true? Just one? Yeah.
I mean, sometimes if I'm seeing more, I mean, that's not like the rule. It's like, oh, I picked up one.
I'm not just going to pass another one. But no, I mean, I have a couple of rules throughout the day that I like to establish and get my day going.
I mean, the easiest one is making my bed. You know, I stole that from I, I stole that from, Oh gosh, I haven't read.
Oh, his book is called make your bed. That makes sense.
Okay. Um, yeah.
So it was, uh, he did a graduation speech at the university of Texas. Um, I forget his name.
I can't remember if it was a colonel or a lieutenant, but great book and great speech, but no, it's the easiest thing. Think about it.
It's the first thing you do throughout the day. Everyone can make their bed.
Everyone's able to make their bed. You wake up, make

their bed. What?

All right, we'll do counterpoint.

No.

I could just get back

into my bed. Not

made. No, but once you're

already up and out of your bed,

is it that hard to actually make the bed? Will you

agree if it's not that hard to make the bed? I don't know if it's hard is the word. Like, chores suck.
What is the benefit? You like doing chores? No, this is where I do. I like having habitual chores throughout the day, yeah, and making my bed is one of them.
Just think about it. If that's the...
Yeah, you're like a working dog. You're a working dog, like a cattle dog, and we're more like pugs.
Yeah, or pugs just sitting on the couch. No, you're defined by your habits.
I like to have good habits throughout the day. If that's the first task you complete throughout your day, you've already kick-started to have a domino effect for the rest of your day.
And you have a terrible day you get to come home to a nice clean nice clean bed there's no there's not a loose situation here with making your bed yeah but if you're saying like oh well at the start of the day i can do this and get an easy win that's like a mickey mouse schedule it's like okay yeah you're playing a cupcake at the start it's like alabama when they play week one against some team that nobody's ever heard of they stop them 71 to nothing um so So like at the end of the day, is making your bed really preparing you for the next chore? I don't know. Cause like, I'm just going to get, wait, here's, here's the real question.
When you're in a hotel or when you're at the Olympics, let's just say hotel room, hotel room. Do you make the bed? Yeah, I make the bed.
Psychopath. My twin, my twin bed, my twin bed in the Olympic village was made every single day.
I actually picked up some, I make the bed. What? Psychopath.
What? My twin bed in the Olympic Village was made every single day. I actually picked up a whole bed sheet set from Walmart before we left because that was the only thing I feel like I could make feel like home was my bed.
So I got a whole floral sheet. It was a beautiful set, really beautiful.
It was a floral comforter, and then I got like a whole floral sheet. It's a beautiful set.
Really beautiful. Floral sheet with a – or no, floral is a floral comforter.
And then I got like a dark green. Dark green is my favorite color.
So I got a sheet set that was dark green. I brought my pillow from home, and then I got a Mashes topper.
So I had the best bet in the village before. Well, this is the beauty of this show too because you're a world-class athlete, gold medalist, done incredible things, you know, physical things that are beyond like anything we could ever dream of and here we are two guys and we're just like no way would we make our bed you're a fucking loser like you're an idiot like dude be like us just leave your bed i don't like sheets i don't like i don't sleep with sheet like the the top sheet i hate it i just sleep with a blanket i've so that's why yeah that's why i don't do the bet make like the top sheet.
I hate it. I just sleep with a blanket.
So that's why I don't do the make the bed thing. Oh, I hate it too, but I had to adapt because my wife is obsessed with the whole – Dude, we have two sheets.
Oh, my God. How have you not strangled yourself? I would die if I had two sheets.
You'd see me, and I'd just be in a cocoon of sheets because I'm a very violent sleeper. It's heavy.
If you go to adjust during the night or you go to pull the sheets up, you're straining a little bit. You have to really work.
You have to earn your sheets at night. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
I'd rather just have the comforter and I'm good to go. I made that switch about two months ago.
It changed my life to going to just comfort my life. Oh, I've been in it all my life.
So you've got two sheets. Are they the same sheet or is there a light sheet, a heavy sheet? I forget what she calls it, but we have the comforter, the big boy, and then there's like a little decorative blanket, which is kind of stupid as well.
So comforter, and then's like a white a white sheet and then we have the thin sheet and then and then the body the human body and then and then the like the fitted sheet okay so this actually kind of makes sense because you making your bed is actually like an accomplishment that's a lot of things so now i get it like you actually, that actually is a legit thing that you're doing.

You probably have to stretch before you make your bed.

You got to like really bend over and don't use your back too much.

I get it now.

I get it.

You're, it's like going to the gym is making your bed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a, it's a task, man.

It's like, I mean, it takes, it takes some time.

If I'm being honest, it was a lot easier to pitch this, make your bed thing.

When I was like in my own queen bed and only had one sheet on the bed.

Thank you. It takes some time.
If I'm being honest, it was a lot easier to pitch this make your bed thing when I was in my own queen bed and only had one sheet on the bed. It was much easier, but I'm sticking to it.
It's a chore. All right, I got a question that I don't want you to take it in a morbid way, but it has a morbid – it's kind of morbid.
But, Caleb Dressel, you're out on a boat. Your boat capsizes.
How many miles away from shore can you swim back and survive? If you're, like, if you're five miles away, let's say water temperature's not an issue. Can you still survive? Is this just strictly off of how far it can go? Or do I have to watch for sharks or anything like that? Let's say a couple sharks.
There's one shark. Yeah, one shark.
You don't know when. But he's hungry.
Yeah. Like a nerd shark? No, it's a bull shark.
He's hungry, but he's only got one eye. And his fin got hit by a propeller last month, so it's a little weird.
And you have a... You cut your nails too close, so one of your nails has a little bit of blood coming out, just a little.
Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I could make it – I could get 10 miles. 10 miles? So 12 miles, you're dead.
12 miles, I'm dead. 11 miles, I'm dead, yeah.
Okay. 10 miles is a really long way.
It is is but if it's just on survival I mean I wouldn't enjoy it and I think this is something I enjoy but if it's just on survival alone if the shark wasn't there I think I could do I definitely could do way more but that's the only sketchy part yeah yeah but I mean the shark might get tired too yeah true you should actually do that you know how like Michael Phelps did the bullshit I'm gonna out swim a shark and get tired, too. Yeah.
True. You should actually do that.
You know how, like, Michael Phelps did the bullshit, I'm going to out-swim a shark in Shark Week? You should actually be like, hey, I'm Caleb Dressel. I can swim 50 meters faster than a shark and get in the pool with a shark.
Watch me give you, hey, I'm Caleb Dressel, and watch me die right now. This is essentially what the show would be.
I mean, I'd watch. Not to be that morbid, but I'd definitely tune in.
Like, I like you, but I'd watch. So we did get morbid.
It wasn't very morbid. I think we could probably – I think if I were – I'd have to be probably about 300 yards from shore.
Otherwise, I'd just – I'd be like, all right, see you. I had a good run, and just slowly sink to the bottom.
I mean, 300, that's still pretty far. Oh, you think it's more like 100 yards? No, 300 is a really long way to swim.

Once I can't touch the floor, yeah.

I'm a good swimmer.

If I can't feel the bottom of the sea, I'm like, well, I'm dead.

That's fine.

All right, so next question.

How long can you hold your breath?

Okay, so this is like I get this question a lot.

It's mainly from little kids.

I'm not trying to knock you.

It's mainly from little kids, but I always tell them like I always tell them by the way that wasn't an insult like that's kind of what we do is we just ask little kid questions so normally what I tell them is like oh not that long because I don't want to say a number and then they come back and they try to do it and I'm like I have little kids passing out because they're trying to hold their breath as long as me i promise i won't try to do whatever number you say i will so listen to this so i read this book uh have you heard of a guy called wim hoff yes the breathing techniques he goes in like cold water and shit so listen i i went through a phase where i tried it out and i mean i loved it and i did his technique one day i was about to fall asleep i was like i did the whole technique i was like like i'm just gonna try i'm just gonna try hold my breath. Dude, I made it.
And I did his technique one day. I was about to fall asleep.
I was like, I did the whole technique. I was like, hmm, like, I'm just going to try.
I'm just going to try to hold my breath. Dude, I made it five minutes and six seconds.
What? Yeah. And the scariest part, the scariest part is I felt fine.
And I was like, dude, I need to take a breath. Five minutes.
Yeah. So five minutes, six seconds is my record.
You just quit because you were bored, not because you were done holding your breath. Yeah.
Honestly, the worst part wasn't my heart rate or that I needed to breathe. There was so much air in my lungs that my throat started to hurt from kink and then off.
So that was the worst part of my throat hurt. That's insane.
Holy shit, man. That is actually crazy.
So we feel like a super human. Do you feel like a super human? I scared myself doing that for sure.
Yeah. Cause I was like, this isn't that, that was not normal.
I remember looking at the clock at three minutes and I feeling fine. I was like, well, I'll go a little longer.
And I looked again. It was five minutes.
I was like, I got to stop. Yeah.
So when you swim the 50 meters, you don't take a breath, right? The entire time. That's easy for you.
Well, no, it's a lot different when you're laying in your bed and then when you're, you know, exerting every, every muscle in your body going all out for a length of a pool. So yeah, I'm out of breath after, after the 50, I wouldn't say it's, it's hard.
I mean, I can make it a couple more meters, but you're, you're definitely gas after the 50 percent. Well, since you are an Olympic swimmer, I think we have to ask you a question about your diet and how many calories you get to eat during a day.
I'm sure you've never been asked that question before. But just like, can you tell us how awesome it is to eat all that food and give me an example of like, you know, on a heavy day of training, what are you allowed to eat? Yeah.
I mean, I know I can get away. If I'm being honest, I can eat, I can eat anything I want, but I don't, I don't do that.
The way, the way I view it in high school, I did that. I ate terrible in high school.
Um, but I'm at the age now to where what I put in my body is what I'm, what I'm going to get out. You're not going to put, you know, lawnmower fuel in a race car.
What, what I'm, what I'm putting in is what I need to get out for my body. I try to eat.
Morning is going to be heavy carbs, fuel me throughout the day. Lunch, about half protein, half carbs.
Then dinner is going to be primarily protein. I stick to that basic schedule.
Then throughout there, the cleanest proteins I can get, cleanest carbs I can get. The morning is going to be a lot of fruit, um, you know, bagels, stuff like that.
Uh, I eat a lot that that's the only hard part is some days I call it. I just need some dirt.
So some days I got to go to five guys. Um, some days I gotta, I gotta crush a box of Reese's.
Like some days I need that. Like, I think that's actually the best fit for me.
Like my body lets me know when I need calories, um calories because you'll finish a whole meal and you're just sitting there and it feels like you haven't eaten anything. So it's annoying because I have to eat.
I have to eat for two. Like, when I go out to dinners with Megan, like, I have to order two meals.
When she cooks, it's basically like cooking for her family. So it is annoying.
Like, I like to eat, but I wish it could just be normal quantities um but i i do eat healthy i take a lot of pride in that knowing that i'm not just filling my body with trash and then a bunch of supplements so this is where we actually uh are kind of the same but i much like you could have gone you went five minutes without breathing i can eat a full meal feel full and keep eating so i do feel full but then i just power through that feeling of hey you're good and just keep on eating that's the that's the thing we do yeah yeah you're just fueling your body even more and we're just we're all athletes here you know you don't want to give your body something it it doesn't need you know i'm the guy at the pump who doesn't realize that there's no restrictor and he's just gas flowing out of his car because he's over full.

You know what you should do?

You should psych out the next generation of swimmers,

like your future competition, and you should post on Instagram

like twice a week like, all right, cheat day,

and have just a picture of seven giant pizzas

and tell everybody that's what you eat.

Then people will copy your diet.

They'll get really slow. You'll continue your reign as a champion.
Well, I do have cheat days. Like some days, some days, yes, mainly throughout the week, it's going to be a lot of seafood, a lot of salmon, a lot of chicken.
But then some days, dude, I need a cheeseburger. That's my only option in that moment.
Some days I need five guys five guys sometimes i need a milkshake from culver's like it's very it's very obvious when i need it like i'll get home and i know immediately on the way home i'm like this is this is what i need i need the dirt but your your cheat day is like what i do when i take the stairs to my apartment one time yeah and i'm like i've earned this lunch yeah five guys guys for lunch. I'm saying like four pizzas, three milkshakes,

have just like a giant bowl of frosted mini wheats for health in the picture.

And then everybody behind you will start to like copy your diet

because it's like, oh, I want to swim as fast as Caleb.

And next thing you know, it's like the entire –

all your competition is fat at that point.

So good for you.

Yeah, just an idea. That's actually – it's really not a bad idea.
Just weed them out. That's a great idea.
Yeah. All right, I have my last question.
So you can watch Caleb this weekend, Saturday, on CBS, the ISL from Naples, Italy. He's about to hop on a flight.
So I saw you had some good comments about the mental toll that the Tokyo Olympics took and how taxing it was now like kind of a serious question but can you maybe put into words what we as viewers don't really understand about this level of athleticism and this level of sport that we kind of take for granted and when we criticize or we do the hot hot takes, we're not really understanding the mental toll that goes into everything to win seven gold medals. Yeah, I mean, when people are turning on the TV to watch the Olympics, I want to put on a good show.
I want to swim fast. I want to represent my country the best I can.
When someone's watching their TV, that's what they want to watch. They want to see something exciting.
So I don't expect everyone to understand the complete opposite side of everything. If someone doesn't want to buy into that, that's fine.
If they want to turn on their TV and watch me swim, turn it off, great. So I don't expect everyone to understand the ins and outs of this sport, how I work and operate, because I don't think it's fair.
Not everyone wants to deal with that. But since you asked, there is a whole separate side of the sport that when the cameras are off, I mean, it's brutal.
You know, I've said in interviews before, I mean, I love competing. I really do.
But that week of if it's a world championships or an Olympic Games, I mean, it's brutal. It's absolutely brutal.
You're putting your body through some of the most demanding physical tasks that you can ask for back to back swims. On top of that, you're not in your own, your own room, your own bed, your own diet, you've been eating the same athlete dining food for a month, which was great, but you eat it anywhere for a month, you're going to be sick of it.
And then the mental side of having to answer answer media questions having to understand that this guy wants to beat you as bad as you want to beat him that no race is a given you know right after the race i get done swimming you have to walk through the media zone for 15 minutes so i can't even you can't even go down or down right away so you're out of breath huffing and puffing trying to answer i mean you saw the interview questions where you can't understand the swimmers because you're just sitting there trying to catch your breath. You know, not being able to sleep at night, just the nerves are up and running.
You know, I don't, when I get nervous, I don't eat. Some people are the opposite and they, they overeat.
So there's a lot, but I'm not going to go and tell everyone this, if they want to watch me perform and they, they find it exciting when I swim fast, I'll do that. I love putting on a show.
But there's definitely a flip side. I mean, this whole year, more so than any year.
I mean, I've been lifting in my strength coach's garage for a year and a half. You know, our weight room at University of Florida hasn't been open.
That and then getting married, moving into a new house, you know, this whole year has been, there's been a lot of unknowns. and then you're throwing COVID on top of that.
And then getting married, moving into a new house, you know, that this, this whole year has been, there's been a lot of unknowns and then you're throwing COVID on top of that. You know, I can't tell you how many times my head's been buried in Megan's chest this whole year, just with how frustrating the sport can get, you know, trying to find every little detail, my diet, how much I'm sleeping at night.
You know, I am, I'm not fun every day to be around and practice. My goal is not to have a good time when I'm there.
It's to get better. And if you're my teammate and you're not, you're not expecting that as well from yourself, then I'm not, I'm not going to be fun to be around.
I'm there to get better. I'm not there to have a good time.
Now, most of the time, of course, I'm enjoying myself. So how invested I am in practice and then making sure I'm taking the right supplements, making sure I'm recovering with acupuncture, massage.
I mean, every little detail that hones into one moment, one week of your life for a meet that goes on every four years. Yeah, it'll get your heart rate up and it'll make you shake a little bit.
It's a great answer. And it's kind of what I was looking for because I count me as part of the I turn on swimming once every four years and don't understand what goes into it.

And we're just like screaming at our TV, swim faster.

Yeah, right.

That's as much.

Or you're hot, Caleb.

You look really hot.

No, and that's fine.

Like I'm not expecting everyone to know my life story.

I'm not expecting them to know the hardships that go through it.

That's what I get to experience. That's where I get to learn about myself.
That's why I'm still in the sport is I enjoy the challenges. The valleys and the mountaintops, all of them come together to where you can learn a lot about yourself and you can find things to move forward in the sport.
That's for me. That's why it doesn't matter if there's not a camera on me at all times so people understand like, oh, that's why he didn't go a world in this event or whatever i'm not expecting him if you want to turn on your tv much watch me swim a couple laps and turn it off i'm fine with that yeah and all that all that stuff that you mentioned that we don't get to see like you know being in isolation having to work out in your strength coach's garage putting your body through hell for you know weeks and weeks at a time when you get ready for a competition none of that sounds as bad to me as making your bed every morning.
So you deserve all the effort. You do put yourself through hell.
Yes. Yeah.
I mean, I'm still enjoying the sport, though. Like I said, I'm doing it for the challenges.
The sport has taught me a lot about myself. I'm capable of more than I think.
I think everybody is. That's my biggest thing in the sport.
If I can pitch that to someone, they're capable of something great. It's probably not in the pool.
I don't want everyone to be swimmers that would be so boring I think I would suck for the world population I think we're we're greater we're capable of something greater than we think you know and swimming has certainly taught me that I love it I love it oh last real quick uh we have a guy who's on the show he's not here today he's like kind of his hobby is stolen valor and he was talking about possibly getting the Olympic rings tattoo even though he's never been to the Olympics would you if you saw him with the Olympic rings tattoo would you say like hey would you compete in no probably not dude I've had people my favorite I've had people ask me because my rings are on my forearm um like I'm checking out at Publix and like hey like are you a big fan like big fan? Well, technically, yeah. She asked me this.
I was like, well, technically, yeah. I was like, yeah, I am a fan.
And I just left it at that. So, no, he's just a fan.
I guess you can do it. Perfect.
That's such a flex. Well, Caleb, thank you so much.
Congratulations on all your success. It was awesome to watch you in Tokyo.
Everyone tune in on Saturday, CBS. And we appreciate it, man.
Anytime you're in New York City, come by the office. All right.
I can do that, boys. All right.
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Go buy it right now, buyrnr.com. I'll be on the call.
He's fighting Bobby Lang, our heavyweight champion. Pac-Man, good to have you on.
How are you feeling ahead of this fight that I'll tell you right now, I think you're going to get knocked out. All right, well, that's your opinion.
And you can bet some smack rules on it if you want. You want to bet 1,000 push-ups? 1,000 push-ups? Oh, you want to bet $1,000? All right, I'll bet.
1,000 push-ups or $1,000? I'll bet you $1,000. So just, I mean, now I got to make sure that the pen people don't get mad at me that I'm just throwing this bet out there.
I think this is like one of those scenarios where it's college game day and you're Kirk Herbstreet. I don't think you're allowed to.
I'm not allowed to. I'll bet you $1,000 of Big Cat's money.
All right, it's a deal. All right, so he'll win.
I'm saying Bobby Lang will win. All Alright, I'm saying Bobby Lang will not win You bring your cash Friday night So tell me why you think you're going to win I know you played in the NFL Tell me why you think Bobby Lang going to win Because I've seen him fight He's a good fighter, he throws bombs Have you ever seen me fight? No.
Well, no. That video.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The airport.

Yeah.

Y'all seen a video of me in the airport with $200,000 in my book bag with my whole family

when I really didn't want to fight.

Yeah.

Although, you know, an airport is actually like the safest place in the world to fight

because there's, you know, all the TSA that goes into it.

You know that nobody has a weapon on them.

Well, I was fighting TSA.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

That's a good point.

That's a good point. They have all the weapons that they've confiscated.
Yes. Yeah.
So tell us, though, how has training gone? Like, I mean, I know you're obviously an incredible athlete, played in the NFL for a very long time, but boxing is different. In your training, have you noticed how hard it is?

Do you have any boxing in your background or anything like that?

The training was very hard.

I got a lot of respect for anybody who's trying to be a boxer,

getting up, running three, four miles a day, core,

doing workouts that you don't get to stop for 20 minutes. The respect level for the boxers are out the roof.
I'm not saying nothing against the brotherhood that I have with my football brothers. But the boxing shape is a lot different.
And this is kind of a home crowd for you too, like West Virginia. You've got a lot of fans out in West Virginia.
Have you thought about that? Have about uh either your your entrance song that you're going to make into the ring or or what that crowd's going to be like when you step out there um yeah i've thought about all of it but the main thing i'm thinking about is whooping bobby yeah making sure my hand getting pulled up at the end of the belt and collecting my thousand dollars now that i know between you guys Yeah, that's fine. but yeah um i want to play country road when i get through you know what i mean take me home okay i like it um so what's your strategy i mean are you like here's the thing with rough and rowdy have you watched the rough and rowdy fights yet i i've watched the fights okay nobody nobody used the jab in rough and round yeah, it's chaos.
Three one-minute rounds is true chaos. So what's your counter to that chaos? Because you can train all you want, but once you get in there, if your opponent decides they're just going to start throwing bombs and you're going to throw them back, all the training goes out the window.
Well, that depends on how smart you are and how dumb you are.

And I'm a professional, so I'm going to pick and choose my shots.

And like I told you, Bobby is a bull, and I'm going to be the bull master.

Okay, so you're going to do a little Ole defense, let him run by,

let him tire himself out. When was the last time, though, you got punched in your face?

Probably about four days ago when I was sparring. Okay.
How are you taking it? I'm eating. Yeah.
Yeah? And I'm – Okay. Yeah, I know y'all keep saying how tough Bobby is and all this.
Anybody who get in there is tough, man. So, like, that shit is out the window.
Like, everybody's tough. Have you got hit yet?

Have you seen Bobby get hit with a good

shot yet?

I don't know. If you've

been there every five fucking fights,

he got hit the one time against a kid who had

the knee messed up and almost fucking

got knocked out of there in the third round.

Besides that, he hasn't been fucking hit.

I do agree with you that anyone

who steps into Ruffin Rowdy

gets my immediate respect

because... Yeah, all them guys

Thank you. Besides that, he hasn't been fucking hit.
I do agree with you that anyone who steps into Ruffin Rowdy gets my immediate respect. Yeah, all them guys should get the respect if they got the nerve to jump in there.
Yeah. This ain't for everybody.
So are you, let me ask this. So Bobby Lang has the heavyweight championship.
If you win this, are you going to keep fighting at Ruffin Rowdy? Are you going to defend your title um i love this i think this is going to be my platform when or if they try to sneak it up out of me and not win but i'm going to fight but this is not my this is my first fight man i got i got a lot to learn i got a lot to to be uh to show y'all so it going to be fun. If you're asking me, will this be my one and last fight, the answer is no.
I've seen a lot of Bobby Lang fights and I think that there is something to the fact that he comes out hard. He charges hard at the beginning.
Like you said, he's a bull. You're the bullfighter.
By the time he's gotten to round three, I think if you have better cardio than him,

I think you definitely have the advantage the longer the fight goes.

So is that, how are you planning on being a bullfighter with a guy like Bobby Lennon?

Bobby Lennon, from the time the bell rings to the time the bell ends, bro.

Okay.

Period. Point blank.

I love it.

I'm ready.

And if you win this fight,

I know that you called out Ochocinco a while back. It seemed like he was ducking you a little bit.
Are you going to call him out again? I'm happy he was ducking me on that fight because I wasn't ready then. My hands were nowhere near the speed they are now.
My feet is ten times better. I'm going to let my team figure that out, but I'm ready.
Hey, Bobby. Adam, what's up, my man? We got Bobby here.
Hey, hold on, hold on. Congratulations on the win first.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
No, we need bad blood. Don't say congratulations.
Bobby Lane did just get married last week, though. Congrats, Bobby.
The bad blood is what it is. One of them, read them a whoop his ass.
Yeah, so Bobby, so the one thing that I really want to address is Pac-Man just said that you've never been hit. He's like, you've never been hit.
You've never been tested. He's basically calling you a pussy right now that, like, you've gone in and beaten the inferior opponents.
What are you going to do? Well, first of all, I'd like to point out I fought Travis Terman Who weighed 270 pounds

And I got fucking blasted by his right hook in the first round

And I fucking ate it

So, to say I've never been hit

Clearly you haven't been watching

That was the previous heavyweight champ

The guy in the boots

The guy in the boots that you referenced

Yeah

He hits like a fucking monster

And I fucking ate that

Alright, he don't hit like Pac-Man Jones

Yeah, well, I'm gonna find out

He don't hit like Pac-Man Jones

I can tell you

Who blacked your eye before the other fight?

Say it again

Thank you. monster.
And I fucking ate that. Alright, he don't hit like Pac-Man Jones.
Yeah, well, I'm gonna find out. He don't hit like Pac-Man Jones.
I can tell you, who blacked your eye before the other fight? Say it again? I couldn't hear with that lip in your mouth. When you were sparring, who blacked your eye before the other fight? I fucking spar dudes all the time.
I spar all wicked good boxers. Just remember that same feeling come goddamn Friday night at 7, 8, whatever time we fight.
Hey, if you don't get a black eye, then you aren't really fighting. So I could care less.
I don't care if I leave with fucking two black eyes. It's not going to matter.
Bobby, Bobby, Pac-Man. If I give your ass a black eye, it's going to be shit.
Bobby, Pac-Man said he was going to whoop your ass from the time that the bell rung until the time the fight was over. What's your strategy? He says that he's going to, you're a bull, but he's a bullfighter.
He only got one strategy. Bobby, what's your call? Give me a prediction here, Bobby.
If it's not broken, don't fix it. It's been working the last five times.
I think I'm going to stick to the same strategy as the last five and see how it goes. What, Pac-Man, how about you? What's your plan? Not to do what the other last five motherfuckers did.
You going to do the same thing you did to that guy in the airport? Hey, did you hear me? Hey, did you hear what I just told you? No, I couldn't hear you. Not to do what the last five motherfuckers did.
Okay. Well, Pac-Man.
I said.

Hold on.

Can you hear me, though? Hold on.

Hold on.

Let me finish my fucking statement.

Can you hear me, Bobby?

Yeah, I can hear you now.

I won't do what the last five motherfuckers did.

I can promise you that.

What?

Lose?

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, not if I have anything to say about that.

All right.

I have a question. My last question.
Bobby,, when you were in the office a couple weeks ago, you were looking skinny. So, for people who don't know, Pac-Man put in a clause.
I think it was officially the pussy clause. He said that Bobby has to be 175 pounds at weigh-in.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
on. Who is this? What's your name again? Big Cat.
Bobby, before you hopped on, I bet Pac-Man $1,000 you'd win. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Okay. All that pussy shit, keep that to yourself before you don't make it to get to call to fight now.
All the pussy claws and all that shit, you keep that to yourself and to your girlfriend. But when you're talking to grown men, keep that pussy shit to yourself.
Okay. You ain't heard me.
You ain't heard me. You ain't heard me.
You ain't heard me. You ain't heard me.
You ain't heard me. You ain't heard me.
You ain't heard me. No pussy.
No bitches. So keep that to yourself because I'm really about what I'm talking about.
Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, listen. What the fuck do you have to say? I'm trying to sell fights, Pac-Man, and you're sitting here being like, I'm going to try my best.
When you sell your fights, nigga, you better talk with respect or you won't be hosting this motherfucker come tomorrow. Okay.
Alright, so there's a clause in there. I won't say what it is.
I won't say... I put a weight clause in there at 175.
Yeah. That's what fucking professionals do.
Now, go ahead and say what the fuck you up there. All right, so how much do you weigh right now, Pac-Man? Right now, I weigh 177.
And how much do you weigh, Bobby? I just got on the scale, 176. Oh, okay.
So I'm good. I'm already right where I need to be.
I'll be 175 pounds tomorrow at the weigh-in. No big deal.
Listen, I agree to 175. I know you guys are all shitting on Pac-Man for it.
I agree to 175, so I get no problem with it. He agreed to it.
He knew what he was getting himself into. Exactly.
That's what I'm saying. I agree to 175.
It's all good. I get no hot feelings about it.
It's going to be 175. It is what it is.
Do you think Pac-Man was a little scared when he put that clause in?

Well, here's the thing.

I've fought multiple guys that had a ton of weight on me.

I fought a guy last fight.

Bobby, you ain't got to answer that question.

You know I ain't goddamn scared because I took the fucking fight.

Come on, bro.

That's the next fucking question.

No, listen.

I'll give you that.

We're fighting.

It's happening Friday night.

You know what I mean?

There's no more talking about it.

It's happening Friday night.

So –

Yes.

He's clearly not scared. He's going to be there.
I'm going to be there. You guys already know what I mean? There's no more talking about it.
It's happening Friday night. Yes.
He's clearly not scared.

He's going to be there.

I'm going to be there.

You guys already know what I bring to the ring.

This is his first fight.

We're going to see what he brings too.

But like I said, I'm 5-0 for a reason.

So I don't win fights by accident.

So I'm ready for this fucking fight.

So let's do it Friday night.

Woo!

All right.

Let me get one last final prediction from both of you. Pac-Man.
Pac when's it gonna end and how's it gonna end with my hand up like this new champ right here And jokes is up to And no hard feelings. Hey Bobby, you can get the heavyweight shit, but the other belt I'm getting one of them belts.
You understand? You know what I mean? That's what I'm talking about. And what I'm telling y'all is, goddamn it, Friday night, whatever fucking time we fight, we shake hands out to fight.
But when we get in that motherfucking ring, it's time to do what to do, baby. There you go, Pac-Man.
Thank you. We're trying to sell these fights.
Get some air velocity going. Yeah, let's motherfucking go.
Let's sell it, dude. Because I'm right.
Big Cat, this fight's going to sell itself itself it's the biggest fight you guys ever done so i've been waiting looking at bobby's face and that ain't no hard feelings you know what i mean it is what it is but it's time to put these motherfucking gloves on okay all the this and that body motherfucking tickets because i'm telling y'all, Friday, August 27th, it's going to be a fucking show. Y'all ain't seen it yet.
See, that's the thing. This is not personal to me at all.
Same just like what Pac-Man did. Hell no.
This is business to me. This is a fucking business trip.
That's all it is to me. Fucking business.
I come down there to win fights. I don't care who I'm fighting.
You're obviously the biggest name I've gotten so far. but guess what? It's going to end the same way as the last five.
I don't go down there to lose. I'm going down there to fucking win just like I do every other time.
I'm on the way to the right now. He's showing off his cards.
Hey, I've been in business trips my whole fucking life, man. My whole life have been business trips.
What the fuck are y'all talking about? My whole fucking life have been business trips. All right, so Bob— up? Bobby, what's your question? My whole life have been business trips.
Like I tell y'all, it ain't personal. This is a business trip for me.
Same way when I lace this shit up and go and play against Pittsburgh, motherfucker, whoever else you want to name, A, B, T, O, whatever, it's a business trip. And one thing about me, I always handle my business.
Okay. So, Bobby, what's your prediction? All right.
I just think that I'm a better boxer than him straight up, and I'm just going to outbox him. But you ain't going to box me.
Bobby, you're going to try to rush me, and I got something for that shit. I'm telling you.
Yeah, right. I got something for that shit, baby boy.
Let me know if he's going to be the other way. All that rushing shit, you don't have a jab.
When have you hit it? You ain't hit nobody with no jab. Ain't nobody in the referee to hit nobody with no jab.
You got an overhand right, and then you try to grab behind the head with the opposite. Besides that, you ain't got shit, bro.
You got a lot of heart. You got a lot of heart.
You never seen what I can do now. I like all that, but everybody's going to do that when they're in the motherfucking fight.

If you ain't fighting hard, you don't need to be in that motherfucker anyway.

All right.

Well, August 27th, Friday night, when you're listening to this, it's tonight.

Tune in.

Pac-Man Jones, Bobby Lang.

Go buy the Ruff and Rowdy.

Buy R&R.com.

Wait, wait, wait.

Pac-Man's entire family has been behind this whole time that he's been talking shit to Bobby Lang.

I love it.

See, I don't go nowhere without my family. There you go.
Hey, this is a business trip, man. I love it.
We're going to be suited and booted and locked and loaded, and we're going to be deep as a motherfucker. Everybody going to be there.
You better believe that. I love it.
My company support me at all times. Well, I'm excited.
So good luck to both of you. Me too.
Have my goddamn money after the fight. Yeah, no.
Make sure you have my money. Make sure Make sure you have my money Matter of fact We'll talk when we get there That's what we'll do I'll be there about an hour and a half I'll be there about an hour and a half At the stadium So I'll see you there Alright, perfect, you'll see me, I got the coat on I'm singing national anthem.
You're going to be moved to tears while I sing

it.

I have heard your voice five times. It's very angelic.

Yes, exactly. Bobby's heard it, so

it's going to be a great night.

Bobby heard it five times. He'll hear it five more

times, but it won't be on the fucking winning side.

Oh, there we go. All right, boys.

Thank you so much. We'll see you guys on Friday

night. Yes, sir.
Let's

go.

Thanks, guys on Friday night. Yes, sir.
Let's go. Thanks, guys.

Appreciate it.

Okay, let's get into our Mount Rushmore.

That fight's going to be crazy tonight, by the way.

Oh, yes.

Go buy it.

Rough and Rowdy 15.

Also, I'll be part of the broadcast on Showtime on Sunday night for Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley. If Pac-Man kills you, do I get Stella? Sure.
Okay. Sure.
Sure. Cool.
Yeah. Bobby Lang hits so hard, but Pac-Man is just such a freak athlete.
It really is. It's going to be great.
No one knows what's going to happen. Kelly was actually worried for me after that interview.
I think we're good. I think me think me and pac-man are good shout out to kelly unless he loses then maybe we're not good because then he then he's a thousand thousand bucks are you gonna bring it in a brief case i am i'm gonna bring it not in a briefcase a briefcase full of ones would be nice though oh that would be a classy touch that would be a very classy touch hey what's going on there pal we saw you at the hockey game on.
Do I know you guys? I'm Ryan Whitney. I got a

drink named after me. Not a big deal.

Pink Whitney?

That's what I thought. See ya, fellas.

I invented the thing, you pigeon. Pink Whitney

for legendary moments.

Okay. Mount Rushmore

of rom-coms.

But there are no Judd Apatow movies

allowed. Give me an 8.

17.

18.

By the way, I went into a free agency today.

Picked up memes.

Oh, memes.

The tag team.

All right.

So everyone knows part of my memes.

He actually is part of the team now.

So we're very excited.

He's been with us for a little bit.

36.

What was everyone's picks?

I said eight.

I said 17.

I said 18.

So you get to decide the order. Memes, are you confident in that 1-1? Welcome, memes.
Say something in the mic, memes, for the people. Hello.
Alright, nice. That was awesome.
While you guys are deciding, I've got... Billy sent me his list, if he had done it.
You can't say it now. I guarantee you nobody had any of these Are you okay? Hank, anything to say about the Mount Rushmore? I'm happy.
Yeah, me and Bubba have won the last two by extremely narrow margins. I'm proud of us.
A little stat from PMT Stats and Info. We've won five of the last nine Mount Rushmore since then, a third and three-fourths in the five previous Mount Rushmores.
Wow. Crushing it.
On a hot streak. You guys.
What? Good job. Oh, no, I didn't know if this is where you guys were, if we've been throwing it.
No, no, no. Not throwing anything.
Not throwing anything at all. I don't need to throw anything.
I've maybe been throwing it. Maybe.
We get a lot of accusations that I'm throwing it because my picks have been bad for the last two weeks. Well, here's a little anecdote.
This is a fun little story today. I was in the office.
Awful, and it's time for me to make a change. I've been disappointing myself more than anyone, so I made a little change in today's picks.
I was in the office talking to Westy. He works for the sportsbook.
It's kind of like not where we usually sit. It's a little separate side of the office.
It's a little by the windows. So if you were walking by, you wouldn't expect me to be there type of thing.
I'm talking to him and I look to my left and I see Rhea and Fran walking to go do their show and all of a sudden PFT yells, hey, Rhea and Fran, come here. And then I look to my left and they were huddling in.
PFT was like, I don't realize. Interesting.
It was one of those things where the the conversation happened i saw it all happen and then pft after realized i was standing right there after he asked them for help but you have no idea what we talked about it could have been anything right we should also have it on the record that pft didn't want to have voting this year so you don't make fun of him if he has bad votes no i i thought that it was uh something that we should discuss at the start of the year, whether or not to have voting. Because we didn't used to have voting.

What?

No, we've always had voting. We've always had voting.

I've got my own list.

Any comments on picking an iceberg for a fictional villain?

Yeah, I'm an iceberg truther.

I don't think the iceberg actually existed.

Got it.

No other ship has collapsed at a free fall after running into an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Look it up.
Yeah, you could also just not care about how the votes finish out. Oh, I actually don't care, but I wanted to do a better showing for myself.
Got it. Okay, what's the order? Hang some lead off, and we'll go this way.
All right. Wait a second.
Let's do it. Here we go.
Mount Rushmore rom-coms. Sorry, Hubba's going to lead off.
If you're looking for something. So I'm the only one who's going solo on this.
No, I'm going solo. I made my own choices.
It's Liam and Hank versus Jake and Memes versus me versus PFT, Glenny Balls, Rhea and Fran. Listen, I'm making my own picks.
I will stay true to the AWLs. I will just go from what I know.
This is a legit list that I came up with. Well, I'm a man of my word.
Yeah, no, you're fine. Everyone's making super teams.
I'm the honest now. I'm only picking...
I'm doing it the right way. I'm only even involved in this to make you happy.
Yeah, that's true. That is true.
And 1-1... This also is a tough Mount Rushmore.
I have not seen a lot of movies, so I'm going to do the the same thing I did last time I'm not going to give you a movie I have not seen Crazy Stupid Love I don't think I've seen that I had that on my list It's a great movie Obviously with rom-coms Steve Crow Steve Crow Ryan Gosling Emma Stone It's good I actually love rom-coms So I'm going to watch it Kevin Bacon I have an older like, have dated girls in the past. Usually rom-coms are something that they get thrown on.
You watch begrudgingly. This is one of those movies that's an actual good movie that I watch on my own and enjoy.
Okay, great. Great pick.
All right, memes, do you want to make your first career pick? I don't actually know the movie, but great pick. You should watch it.
I know. I'm going to watch it.
Solid. This is actually, we're doing the AWLs, all AWLs, but especially ones in a relationship, whether male or female.
There's nothing better than popping in a rom-com for a little date night. It's the best.
Okay, memes. Alright, we're going to go with 10 Things I Hate About You.
Good choice. That's another solid movie.
You hate it? Really? Why do you hate 10 Things I Hate About You? It's a great movie.'s one of those things where it's I've seen it a lot it's I don't know if it's because my sister liked it and watched it a lot or like whatever but every time I watched it I was always like I don't want to be watching this okay based on a Shakespeare play I had that on my list um all right Othello no Emma Macbeth Emma no taming of the true taming ofrew. Okay, my first one is going to be, my one one's still there, The Breakup.
Okay. I love that movie.
Good choice. Vince Vaughn, Jennifer Aniston.
Chicago. You can't get better than that movie.
Vince Vaughn at his height, kind of. Like, that was when it was really Vince Vaughn was crushing it.
That's one of the most cool. What happens at the end, though? Did they get back together? We don't know.
As an optimist, I'd like to say they got back together. Okay.
I've actually got my first two picks that I had before consulting, and I think you'll tell by the age of these movies that these are my picks. One won when Harry met Sally.
Who directed that? Rob Reiner. Okay.
Got it. Was that a test to see if I've seen When Harry Met Sally? No, I can't.
I honestly don't know if I've seen that movie. I get confused by all these movies.
It was Rob Reiner's mom that said, I'll have what she's having. Got it.
Number two, Pretty Woman. Pretty Woman.
Great Julia Roberts. I had it on my list.
I had it on my list. Big mistake.
Huge. I had it on my list.
All right. I'll probably get some pushback with this, but game on.
I think Wedding Crashers. That's a rom-com in my mind.
That's a bromantic comedy. It's a rom-com.
It's mostly a story about two bros increasing their romance. It's really, though, the major arc, though, is when Owen Wilson meets the chick, and then the entire movie's about that as a central plot.
I will let you use that pick. I will just prompt this question, and you can let me know.
Do you think that more males or females like that movie? I think it's, well, Hank, your misogyny is showing a little bit. I think everyone likes that movie.
Like, dudes can't like romantic comedies, Hank? No, they can. I just, you know, let's be honest.
To me, a romantic comedy is like... Let's call a spade a spade.
No, to me, a romantic comedy is there's a relationship that's the central plot point that, like, everything comes off. We're talking about date night.
If a dude is like, let's watch Wedding Crashers, do you think the girl is going to be like, fuck yes? I think they would watch it. This is a bro movie.
So maybe it leans one way or the other. We'll allow, but we'll also let people have their say.
If you guys don't want it, we can throw it out. I think it is, but we can throw it out.
We can throw it out. It's all about the debate.
We'll let the listeners judge. Embrace debate.
All right. Embrace debate, yeah.
Because I was thinking about it. Again, I haven't seen a ton of movies.
I need to see more movies, but I was thinking about it. And Owen Wilson does meet her pretty quickly in the movie.
It's within the first 15 minutes. Not after all those fucking.
Yeah. I mean, there's the montage at the beginning, but then after that, that is the fuck.
Like even even Vince Vaughn's side thing is not really. That's not really anything like, you know what I mean? The main driver.
The main driver becomes main driver becomes Owen Wilson not killing himself. And when they go the real moment of like rom-com is when they're on the bikes in the fucking meadow and they're you know doing the whole scene Yeah right exactly great scene Alright we're gonna go with 50 first dates.
Nice. I'm going to go.
I'm surprised this one made it this far. Princess Bride.
Yeah. All right.
I had it on there. Great movie.
Another one that's just a fantastic movie start to finish. I have a confession about Princess Bride.
Uh-oh. You've never seen it? As you wish.
I occasionally will quote it, and I've never seen it. Wow.
That's inconceivable. I know that one.
Nice. Marriage.
Inconceivable. I do not think you think the word means what it means.
You should watch it. It's very good.
Was it I Am Somebody You Killed My Father Prepared to Die? Yeah. I'm Inigo Montoya.
Inigo Montoya. Inigo Montoya.
I loved him in Homeland. But yeah, that's...
You should watch it. I think everybody out there has a movie like that, or some piece of pop culture that they actually haven't consumed.
Yeah, Jurassic Park. I got blasted for that.
I've never seen Home Alone. No, but I'm saying...
That was actually one of the... They all have one like that, that they haven't consumed, but they still quote like they have seen it.
Yeah. Yep.
And then I will go with McConaughey, Fool's Gold. Okay.
He's a rom-com staple. Haven't seen it.
Yeah. It's a classic.
I got a lot of movies I gotta watch. Here's the plot.
Matthew McConaughey is searching for buried treasure. Shirtless.
And the girl in the movie is trying to get him to take life more seriously, but he's committed to the treasure. And then he starts to commit to taking life more seriously, but then the treasure comes into play.
And Kevin Hart's the bad guy. Whoa.
Not very intimidating. Oh, it is.
Okay. Extremely intimidating.
Jake, memes. We are a sports podcast, so we're going to go with Fever Pitch.
Okay. That good one Although I don't I think I personally like that movie a lot And I would have always been like That's a great movie And then As I'm starting to work in Barcelona And become more of an adult I've learned that people hate it It's had a bad review But I still think it's good I agree with you I also think And this isn't me just saying it Because I picked the breakup but i do think you get bonus points when you pick a rom-com and then the two characters actually dated in real life afterwards like jennifer aniston vince vaughn drew barrymore and jimmy fallon like they actually started dating right right outer banks if we did rom-com shows that would be number one uh all right um i i love this movie i truly love this movie high

fidelity high fidelity john cusack never seen it really you should see it it's very very good

very good movie is that an music is that is it based oh is that is that this one yeah yeah

holding the no no no no i think so no no no no for the people listening i was no holding up that's

not it he's in the rain in the scene but not no that that's not it. High Fidelity, he relitigates all his past relationships, and it's based at a record shop, right? Yes.
You're thinking of Say Anything. Yes, yes.
Great band, too. Which is also John Cusack, right? Yes.
I've seen a lot of Cusacks. Yeah.
High Fidelity is a great movie. I think they made a show about it, but they changed a lot of stuff.

But High Fidelity is a great movie.

All right.

Last two.

I'm going to go How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.

Okay.

Another McConaughey.

I'm surprised that wasn't the first McConaughey taken.

Yeah.

McConaughey and Kate Hudson.

That's a great movie.

I actually went to go see that on Valentine's Day 2003 in the theaters. Loved it.
I thought Kate Hudson, was she in both? I think she's in Fool's Ghost. Yeah, I think so.
I think they had like a trilogy. Sometimes, yes.
Sometimes, like, if you get that on-screen chemistry, it just works. You got to just roll with it.
No, I thought that was Sarah Jessica Parker. No.
Oh, no, that's a different one. Yeah, yeah.
That's Sex and the City. Mm-hmm.
No, I'm not going to name it. I won i won't pick it but uh and then my last one can't believe this last this one might actually cause some controversy love actually i love love actually why would it cause controversy because i've heard people say that it sucks i think i think love actually is a great no it's like i think it's like the whole forrest gump thing where now people pretend that they don't like forrest gump it's the worst love actually is Actually is an awesome movie.
Alright. Good picks.
Re-in-Front. Okay.
Full transparency. I had to say it.
They gave me one of those. I used How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, which I liked anyways.
Alright. My last pick.
There's some fucking good movies. I'll go Silver Linings Playbook.
I love that movie. Another one about suicide.
You don't think that's a rom-com? Did it win an Oscar? What's the deal with, like, what's the rule that we made that it can't be a good movie? No, no, you're right. You're right.
I'm not, I'm not. You're right.
I don't want to be critical. No, I just, I'm curious because I think rom-coms can be very good movies.
I think in my personal opinion... You think rom-coms are just throw it on and don't...
In my personal opinion, this is not the general consensus. And obviously Princess Bride and honestly Crazy Stupid Love don't fit in this category.
So I guess I'm contradicting myself. But the best rom-coms are shittier movies.
See, I disagree. I have a couple movies that are also really good movies that are on my list if it makes it to that.
I think the best rom-coms are the ones that actually really are really, really good movies. Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Honestly, Princess Bride is one of the best movies ever made, so I'm not... I love a really good...
Silver Linings Playbook, that's a movie I watched and I was like, that was a great movie. I really enjoyed it.
You know what's great about that movie? It is a Suey Bird special. It is.
It's also about learning more than loving somebody else, loving yourself. Yes.
So it's like multidimensional. Yes.
I like that movie. I think that could count.
That's a little out of the box, but I think it's about a love story. Right.
And it's funny. The central plot is the love story.
And the Eagles. And his bounce back.
Yeah. That's the comedy.
And she saves him kind of thing. Those are always nice.
You know, when the new love saves him from... Sui.
Ichiro. Yeah.
Suizuki. All right.
James, go ahead. All right.
Me, let's wrap this up. All right.
We're going to go with Jerry Maguire. Ooh.
Okay. Yeah, I had that on my list.
I did too. You had me at Hello.
Yeah. Shut up.
It's a good pick. It's a good pick.
Great pick. And I will end Vince Vaughn.
I feel like you've got to go with a Vince Vaughn pick, Couples Retreat. Okay.
Okay. That's a shitty movie.
Yes. Bad Rotten Tomatoes.
Good romantic comedy. Is that one of those ones where he made it just so that he could go hang out in hawaii for like yes three months i love that i love when when actors reach that point in their career it's like not only am i just trying to get the bag but i'm also just trying to go on vacation while i work yes um all right so here's the movies that i had that i missed that i think are great movies uh the big sick never saw it awesome movie it.
Very, very good. Groundhog Day.
That one I was like, eh, kind of maybe not a rom-com. Sci-fi.
I think it would. Yeah, good point.
I think it would be a rom-com if it didn't also involve time travel. Right.
So the other one that just came out, I think last year, Palm Springs. That one's good.
That's basically a redux of groundhog's day which i think that's probably closer to a rom-com um that was a great movie i liked that a lot failure failure to launch was the mcconaughey sarah jessica parker one terry bradshaw's ass yep in that one yep that's a good one i had sleepless in seattle also sequel you've got mail yep hitch yep 500 days of summer it's a good one hitch is a great one Bridget Jones Di Mail. Yep.
Hitch. Yep.
500 Days of Summer. Hitch is a good one.
Hitch is a great one. Bridget Jones' Diary.
Yep. Clueless.
So I thought about Clueless. But isn't it his half-brother or half-brother? Yeah.
So she ends up making out with Paul Rudd, who's her stepbrother. Yes.
That's also based on a Shakespeare play. That's Othello, I think.
That's Emma. That's Emma.
Yeah. Along Came Polly.
Yeah. What about There's Something About Mary? Yep.
I don't think it can be a rom-com if there's jizz. What? If they show cum, it's not romantic anymore.
That's just a sex rom. Yeah, no.
There's something about Mary. There's something about Mary.
It's funny. I was thinking about it.

That was less of a rom-com to me than Wedding Crashers.

That's why I kept it off, but I put it down on my list.

13 going on 30.

Love that one.

If I ran into Pixar, I was going to throw out Pirates of the Caribbean.

I don't know.

Stagnetti's Revenge?

No.

That's just rom.

Yeah.

It's just rom. It's hardcore rom.
love and basketball uh yeah that's not a comedy just a romance yeah uh what about it's bridesmaids yeah that'd be a rom-com that might be a japtao no i don't think it's a japtao is so his bridesmaid i i would say that Bridesmaids is less of a romantic comedy than Wendin Crash is.

I agree.

That's why I kept it off.

Like, I wrote it down,

but I wasn't gonna,

I knew I probably

wasn't gonna get to it.

Because that's about chicks

and they're really,

it's a romantic comedy.

Kristen Wiig's relationship

is, it's not the central plot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It happens.

It's more about like,

yes, Kristen Wiig's

learning how to deal

with toxic friends.

Correct. Reconnecting with good friends.
Correct. Correct.
Yep. Correct.
It's more about like, yes, Kristen Wiig's learning how to deal with toxic friends. Correct.

Reconnecting with good friends.

Correct.

Correct.

Yep.

Correct.

Let's see.

I think that's, oh yeah, Billy's picks.

You want to hear Billy's picks?

Yes.

Okay.

So I asked Billy what his picks would have been if he had done this one.

And he said, Sahara.

Okay.

Rambo 3.

That's McConaughey, I think.

Is it?

Sahara?

I think so.

I think anything with McConaughey pre-whatever it was when he had AIDS is considered a romantic comedy. No, the movie.
Oh. Dallas Fire Club.
I was going to say, what? Yeah, Grease. Grease is actually not a bad choice.
Okay. Project X and Debbie Does Dallas.
He put that one in. All right.
Good job, Billy. All right, let's wrap up.
We've got Fyre Fest of the week. Monday we have Kirk Herbstreet on.
Great interview with him. A little college football getting ready to go.
Week zero is this week. Hank, you want to go with Fyre Fest? Sure.
So this is kind of a continuation of my Fyre Fest last week when I mentioned I lost PFC's charger. It was a nice charger, a six-foot charger.
So I went and I went to reimburse the charger. And at the Apple store, they were like, we don't have the six-foot charger you asked for.
We only have these small ones. And so I got him a two-foot charger.
And what I thought was a three-foot charger, so it was like five feet total. Cumulative five feet of charger.
didn't want to be that guy that like reimburses something less than what i would lost so i felt like getting him a two foot charger wouldn't have counted then pft tweeted a picture giving me credit and i realized that it wasn't three feet it was three meters so it was nine feet so i really got him 11 feet worth of chargers and i could have just given him one charger and taken the other one for myself or not paid for two.

Yeah.

Do you want the other charger back?

No, no, no, no, no.

But.

Are you sure?

It was just a little bit of a firefest where I was like, I did, obviously, chargers at the Apple store are kind of expensive.

And I was like, but I didn't want to be that guy.

Went the extra mile and then realized after the fact I didn't have to.

Love it.

Not to be the guy that looks a reimbursement horse in the mouth, but I happened to notice when I looked at those chargers, I think they're both the type of adapter that goes into a new Apple computer. That's the one you gave me.
Okay. No, that's right.
Thank you for the chargers, Hank. I appreciate the extra.
That was the type of charger that you gave to me, no? No, but here's what will make you feel better about it. It was.
It was USB. It was USB to iPhone.
No. No, it wasn't.
Oh, no. PT's still high from Benny the Butcher.
So that's what it was. No, it wasn't.
On the bright side. It absolutely was not.
You plugged it into my laptop, I remember. Facts.
Uh-oh. Thank you, Bob.
That one? Yeah. When? On the bus.
Uh-oh. I don't recall that.
I do not recall. I do not recall.
But I was going to say, that charger was just one that you might have even left at my house, at the beach house. Oh.
So you might have lost your own charger that I inherited from you, and then gave to you what you lost. And then I gave you 11 feet back.
This is just what guys did. Damn.
Okay, PFT. My Fyre Fest of the week, well, I got two.
First is I drank MCT coffee today, this morning, which is like bulletproof coffee. I don't know what it is, but it sounded badass, so I ordered it.
And it's been – I've been having to check, if that makes sense, every time I fart. Just to make sure because apparently one of the side effects of it is you just crap yourself uncontrollably.
That's how you know it's good coffee. That's how you know that the coffee is working.
So I've been having to check. Haven't crapped myself, but it has made me fart a lot.
But this is more so it's just like I've reached a week into my new diet and in my new diet I've been exercising a lot but the problem with that is this is what happens every time you start a new diet you exercise too much and then your body's like fuck you what are you doing to me you haven't taken me out for more than like a 5 mile per hour walk in 6 months and now now you're running on me. So now my legs hurt and I've got bone bruises and I've got like strained muscles.
And I'm shitting myself because I went from zero to 60 in my new diet. I think you're hitting the cycle.
Maybe. Maybe.
So I'll let you know. They just did like an ESPN game check into PFT as he poops himself.
My body is doing a man can do it all stress's tough. My other fire fest is that I've almost reached the point where I can admit that Dwayne Haskins is going to be a very good quarterback.
No, he's not. Don't worry.
Hold on. You're good.
I think he's getting all the snaps for the Steelers. He's looked so good in the preseason.
Yeah, he's not. I've done this before.
No, he's not. Hold strong.
Who have you thought about, Hank? He's not. Dwayne Haskins.
I was like on the train either last year or two years ago. Don't worry.
No, no, no. But I mean like for me it's painful because it's a player that you got rid of.
Yeah, no, he's not. Don't worry.
I'm telling you. Are you sure? Yes, trust me.
No. Because he's looked good.
Yep. That doesn't matter.
Okay. Yeah, you're good.
I'm still nervous. You're good.
All right.

I got kind of a real fire fest.

Sorry to bum everyone out, but I did get triggered yesterday.

Had been a long time.

So I got triggered online and I had a little introspection because I if you missed it, we skipped over Jake's stress test on Tuesday for time.

And then like people were complaining on Twitter and I was like, fuck this, like whatever.

I got triggered and I admit it, but I had a little introspection.

I'm not mistaken. And then people were complaining on Twitter, and I was like, fuck this, whatever.
I got triggered, and I admit it. But I had a little introspection, and I realized that the passing of Jimmy Hayes had affected me a little bit more than I let on.
Not saying that I was best friends with Jimmy Hayes, probably hung out a few times, great guy. But the fact that his kids were the exact same age as my kids uh kind of fucked me up so weird week but I it was like a thing that I didn't really I don't know I kind of pushed it down and then like last night I was like you know this is actually really fucking me up as I was putting my son to bed so uh I apologize for getting triggered but yeah I think it's more the messages um it's okay sometimes to look into yourself and be like hey why am i short-tempered and why am i off so that was my fire fest uh sorry for making it real i think it's okay to not be yeah yeah no i joke about that all the time but i do i do think like there's you know to just kind of look and be like, hey, why did I fly off the handle here?

Oh, this might be because I'm suppressing these emotions.

It was a very big moment for me.

There you go. A breakthrough.

Talking about it out loud helps.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

That shit fucked me up.

I'm doing better today.

But, yeah.

All right.

Sorry, Jake.

That's a terrible thing to handle.

Let me know if you want any mushrooms.

You're doing better.

I'm good.

I don't need any mushrooms.

Yeah.

So, heading to Long Island this weekend. was packing my bag and the zipper broke.
There it is. That's a great follow-up.
It's a pretty simple follow-up. Jake, are you okay? I spent all week thinking about what if I tragically died and my kids never got to spend many more time with me.
Are you all right, Jake? You're zipper broke, though. No, Jake, Jake.
It's a safe space to talk about this sort of thing. Do you have a backup? I feel bad now.
That was so good. No, don't feel bad.
Come on. It's a shame Billy's hand here to give you one of his giant backpacks.
Oh, that was so perfect. As guys, we don't talk about it sometimes when our luggage breaks.
We're told since the time that we're little boys, girls talk about their bags, and girls talk about always needing a new bag and demanding a bag from you.

But guys, we don't express that.

So do you have a backup?

Yeah.

Okay, good.

Okay, good.

We're okay.

That was close.

But not important in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah.

Memes.

Memes.

All right, I'm up.

Mine was going to be...

Wait, did you mean to say that out loud? Or was that you talking to yourself? That was me talking to myself. All right, memes, you got this.
So mine was going to be something about Nick Cassiano photoshops. Yeah, you're addicted.
You're addicted. You're addicted.
I think it's time for an intervention to your Nick Cassiano. We had this conversation last week at the end of Grit Week where like, memes is awesome.

He works his ass off.

Very funny guy.

He might be addicted

to Nick Castellanos' Photoshop.

I did and,

well, I am.

And he just hit a home run.

Oh, no.

It was perfect timing.

Oh, as Big Cat was saying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The serious part.

Yeah.

So the guy just has great timing.

Yeah.

And that's it? That's it. What about the coaches? Wait, you didn't say that you're going to fix it.
Oh, no. No, no, no.
You just said, all right, that's first step. You admitted it.
The pie chart of memes' brain is like, memes, Nick Castellanos, 90% of it. Let me ask you a question.
Do you have an alert set up on any sort of device that you own that tells you when Nick Castellanos is up to bat? No, I just have the MLB home runs. I have that on alerts, too.
It's the best. For him and Jelich, who's not very close to 20.
No, not even close to close. Somebody should start a Twitter account that's just posting Nick Cassianos' home runs, and then people can follow that

and then see it on their timeline when it pops up,

and then if it's next to a tragedy,

they can take a screenshot and get a bunch of retweets on it.

Just an idea.

Mm-hmm.

That'd be good.

Yeah.

All right.

Numbers.

99.

Memes?

Oh, you have a fact?

I did look one up.

Kangaroos can't fart.

Whoa! That sounds like a Billy fact. It does.
That is, Jake, what does that sound like? No? What do you mean? It's Cap. Jake, that's Cap.
Sure. I thought we put that to rest.
No, you haven't. You tried.
Don't make PFT All right. For our sake, please.
I don't want to say it anymore. All right.
It's cop.

Thank you.

All right.

18.

99.

81.

8.

69.

55.

There you go, memes.

That'd be a really funny bit right now.

Oh, I'm rooting for it.

I'm rooting for it.

95.

95.

All right. We'll see you guys Monday.

Love you guys.

Kangaroos don't fart.

For real?

Wait. Thank you.
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