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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer. We got our roger bennett in studio roger and then we have uh joe tessitore you've heard him many times on all the big games tess is also on this show uh we're gonna talk everything the nba playoffs are a big time bummer now hashtag lebron was right uh no i mean that was a joke hank obviously I was testing to make sure you're listening you are we have hot seat cool throne we have or no yeah hot seat cool throne fuck I prepare to who's back we have FAQs and a great show coming up what Billy guys on, awesome.
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Bum, bum, ba-dum.

Wow.

That's what the NBA playoffs have become. Giannis, I don't know, he broke his leg, ACL, everything.
Yeah, Dr. David PFT says, I personally think it's an MCL, Big Cat.
I think he may have escaped without an ACL, but whatever it is, his ligaments are not made out of ligaments. They're made out of rubber bands because it's crazy.
My body would have just blown up.

It would have just given up at that point.

Shoot me like a horse if that happens to me.

Bring the tarp out.

Trey Young wasn't even playing in this game.

Is LeBron James correct?

Will LeBron James do another Instagram post saying he's correct?

That's a definite.

I'd actually say that we should give credit to Reggie Miller.

Reggie Miller was mega right about resting the players. The new formula should be you sign star players, and then you just try to win all the playoff series against inferior teams with your role guys, and then you put your stars back in for the finals.
Yes. Listen, Reggie Miller maybe has never seen a catastrophic knee injury.
Not saying that's what Giannis had, but you can walk with an ACL. You can walk if you tear your ACL.
You can walk if you – what? You can. Like he was saying, oh, my God, he's walking off.
That means nothing. Yeah.
That means nothing. Trae Young is on the bench like jumping around.
Trae Young is jumping around. I still believe, and I know that this has now become – there's so many guys injured that this is – it's the weirdest playoffs ever now that Chris Paul is the – Chris Paul and Paul George are the healthiest guys out there.
But a lot of these injuries are kind of freak injuries that I don't know if that has anything to do with playing the season with shortened rests off of the bubble. I just think there's a lot of freak injuries.
They've happened all at once. Who knows? But it sucks.
It's a bummer. The Bucs, it's just a fucking bummer.
And I know that everyone was already saying, like, oh, these playoffs are the best teams. You know, the Lakers got injured.
The Nets got injured. It doesn't really count.
It's still an NBA title. If the Bucs had gone through and won the NBA title, like, that no one gives a fuck about who else who else is injured it sucks when you have this happen and now they're showing Milwaukee the deer district people got to be pretty bummed out the dojo and I think Giannis right now so we're watching this with five minutes left in the game and uh he's sitting on the on uh the bench and I respect what he's doing he's basically in his head he's probably like if I can just sit on this bench and not have the doctors look at my knee, maybe when I get up, when I stand up, I'll be okay.
I've done that many times with like my back and my ankles where I've hurt them. And then I sat down.
I'm like, you know what? If I just chill out for a minute, like when I get back up in 20 minutes from now, I'm going to be fine. I'm currently doing that with my kidneys.
I've been doing that with my kidneys for the last two months i just i had one follow-up appointment which i went to and the guy was like i gotta be honest these are some of the most fucked up kidneys i've ever seen bad boys yeah he's like sit down son and uh then i just decided you know what a great way to avoid getting any further bad news is just stop talking to doctors yeah so i just i just go to work every day like and i pretend like nothing's wrong and then once every three weeks i get a stabbing pain in my side i'm like well body's taking care of itself so with any luck if giannis just stops going to doctors yeah you can never be diagnosed with an injury so i mean side tangent uh off of that is i really do think that we're a big enough company now that we should have a team doctor at barstool sports who just sits upstairs and you can just walk in and be like hey uh i got kidney stones hey my back hurts yeah now how quickly that would become hey the team doctor at barstool sports prescribed illegally prescribed everything i can't say probably pretty quickly but we should have a team doctor back to the game i do think the haw would have, they kind of were going to win this game without Giannis getting hurt. Like, I know Hank just sitting there just saying game after every made shot.
That was pre-injury. The Hawks were playing like a spirited, like, hey, we're coming out here.
Everyone in the world thinks we have no chance without Trey Young. Fuck the world.
Lou Williams going off. Like, I don't know.
I thought they were going to win this game. It felt like they were going to win this game before Giannis even got hurt.
I got to say, watching Trey Young jump up and down, he gives me like LaDainian Tomlin on the sideline vibes. Remember that? I think that was when Phillip Rivers was actually playing with a torn ACL, which you can't do.
Yeah, I mean, Phillip Rivers is not really a run-first quarterback, but he was still playing in the AFC Championship game with it. But that's what, like, Trey Young, he's very animated for a guy with, he's got a bone bruise on the sidelines.
Yeah. Deep bone bruise.
And he was playing the rest of the game on him. Deep bone bruise.
Yeah, deep bone. You have to ask the question, is Atlanta better without Trey Young? Because you got, I mean, Kevin Herter, dude, you know he's the logo of his high school? I love it.
His high school changed their logo to like a silhouette of Kevin Herter after he graduated. He should be the new NBA logo.
I love Kevin Herter. Kevin Herter.
Ginger Jordan. Lou Williams.
Lou Williams has been on fire as well. I think he's, yeah.
I do want to give a shout-out to PJ Tucker, though. Did jersey tonight? It looked, he had like the little tear right down the middle of it.
Pre-tear. Like he was ready to go Hulk Hogan with him at any given second.
Unfortunately, they're losing by 24 points, so he probably won't get to do that. Yeah, this is, I don't know what, like, imagine if the Bucs, imagine if we watch the finals with the Bucs with no Giannis, or the Hawks.
I do think Trey will be back just by, like you said, he's jumping up on the sideline. I think he'll be back for the rest of the series.
And then we have, on the other side, the Never Say Die Clippers, who, look, we're a Suns podcast, but credit where credit is due, the Clippers are a fucking tough-ass team. They just don't quit.
And Ty Lue deserves all the credit in the world for being a really good coach that everyone kind of has clowned on, myself included. And Paul George, he's still playoff P.
We're not going to link. You can't let him off the hook for, what was it, 14 times he shot 25% or less? Yeah, it was like the most in NBA history.
One game doesn't erase that, but one game you do have to give him a lot of credit for going into Phoenix, putting up 30 in the second half, playing an unbelievable game, and the Clippers just don't die. The problem with playoff P is that he never plays a good game where he doesn't have any moments where he doesn't suck.
Yeah. So he always has, even in his best of games, he always kind of stinks for about a minute and a half.
He throws the ball around or something. Yeah, he puts a little gas at the end.
He airballs a free throw or bricks three in a row from the line. And Boogie Cousins.
Is that Capella? I think he got poked in the eye. Capella's her now? Would you? Oh, another one? Yeah.
LeBron? Come on. He got poked in the eye.
If they had been arresting, that never would have happened. I actually think that we should blame LeBron for these injuries.
Yes. Because, okay, so let's take LeBron as word.
It was his idea to try to arrest people more, right? Yeah. Sounds like he didn't do a good enough job leading and building a coalition to get more people to agree with him.
Listen, leadership is about accountability, and if you're LeBron James, you are the leader of the NBA players, right? I know technically Chris Paul is the head of the NBA PA, but Chris Paul answers to LeBron James clearly. So LeBron, Jacuzzi, I don't think that...
You've got to point a finger at yourself. The only issue...
I mean, look, it's weird how many people have been injured, but LeBron, he's made all of his money. He has so much fucking money.
I just think that when you tell, like, hey, the rest of the guys, like, we should have had a longer rest, there's serious dollars that are at stake here if you're not playing or if you're playing a significantly shortened season, guys don't get paid as much, like, salary cap goes down. I don't know.
I just think it's a little bit harder when it's coming from LeBron. I know.
I'm just taking an excuse to try to pin this on LeBron. He's not doing a good enough job making his point.
Listen, I'm very much one of the NBA fans that really I care. I root for ratings.
So I want big markets to do well. If people aren't watching the games, that to me is the biggest loss of all.
So do you think that at this point with all the stars that are injured, you could get more people to watch them play in a wheelchair basketball game than to watch, let's call it a Clippers-Hawks finals? Either way, though, the ratings are going to be screwed this year because of the July. Yeah, July definitely fucks out.
That's an automatic out. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Regardless if it was LeBron versus the Nets, I think the ratings still probably would have been down.
I think people would watch a wheelchair game just because it would be different. I'd watch one game.
Yeah. I don't know if that would be appropriating wheelchair culture.
Yeah, I don't know. I think it would.
I think you did that when you did the scooter thing. Yeah, I did.
I absolutely did. But like being like, look at Kyrie can't, or Trey Young, deep bone bruise, needs a wheelchair.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that would fly.
Paul Pierce shit himself. Yeah, I don't think that would fly.
What were you going to say, Jake? To your point earlier, Ty Lue, 10-2 in his career when facing elimination. It's when facing elimination started with the 3-1 Cavs Warriors and there are certain teams that like their coach instills that type of toughness like scrappiness that is the Clippers like they everything in your body tells you that the Clippers are dead man walking their best players out they're going to.
Phoenix has got a chance to go to the finals for the first time in like almost 30 years at home. And they just go in there.
And there was a moment too in the third or fourth quarter where it felt like the Clippers were totally gassed. And they just kept on fighting.
Reggie Jackson, by the way, like that guy, when he went on that 8-0 run with a dunk, he is fucking awesome. He's like everything you want from that guy, just a spark plug guy who comes in and is like, hey, we can rely on him to just get insanely hot for a few minutes and carry us.
So, yeah, the Clippers deserve a lot of credit. Who do you think wins this series? I do think it would be very funny.
We are Suns podcast. It would be very funny if Chris Paul blew another 3-1 lead.
I think the Suns are still going to win. In the one year that everyone's hurt except Chris Paul? Yeah, I think.
That would be funny. I think the Suns are still going to win.
We're Suns Podcast. I think it's going to be Suns, Hawks, and Suns in four.
Suns in four. Suns, Hawks, sons in four.
So about Chris Paul, that flop he had last night, he is going to get hurt flopping. Like he's a danger to himself because he loves flopping so much.
But the best part about that flop was it was a true internet meme come to life that he flopped. And I was sitting in the office with the spitting chiclets guys as he was flopping the uh brendan gallagher getting his face smashed into the ice and blood everywhere was happening in the stanley cup final game and it was like so perfect that those happened almost like the exact same time and uh i don't know the lightning or an absolute wagon i have actually a paragraph i want to read to you real quick this is a true hockey guy paragraph so this is from the Montreal Gazette from Stu Cowan he wrote about Brendan Gallagher he's just like William Wallace the late 13th century Scottish warrior that the 1995 film Braveheart was based on with Wallace leading the Scots in the first war of Scottish independence against England's King Edward.
If they ever do a remake of Braveheart, which won the Best Picture Award in the 1996 Academy Awards, Gallagher could replace Mel Gibson in the lead role playing Wallace. I fucking love it.
I love hockey, guys. That's a real...
It's incredible. That's a real newspaper wrote that.
Who won that movie? Good point. They fought like warrior poets, Hank.
They fought like Scotsmen. They won their freedom.
Speaking of that, that's the Canadians in this series. I think they probably will get shit pumped by the lightning.
Well, no, they could come back. Someone's dick is getting cut off at the end.
That's all that we know for sure. Yes.
But, yeah, I mean, the lightning looked like they're almost unbeatable. But I do feel like we should take some time to point out the fact that the Lightning, the cap gymnastics on the part of the Lightning.
But I have no problem with that. We talked about it with Biz.
Yeah, cap gymnastics. No, I mean, those are the rules.
We talked about the exact same thing. They're capping.
Big cap. Yeah.
Listen, Hank, I found one way to make an excuse out of my prediction of the Canadians winning, and that's just putting all my eggs in these guys' cheat by exploding the cap rules basket. So that's what I'm going to stick with.
But when we had Biz on, the only time he was coherent was talking about, or maybe it was with Whitney, talking about exactly this. What are you going to do? It's the rules.
The Blackhawks did it in 2015. Now, that was a little different because Patrick Kane got hurt in the season.
They did it where Kucherov was just out all year, and then they brought him back. But the rules are stupid.
The rules are stupid that the salary cap doesn't count in the playoffs. Also, if you have players that are good enough, if you can get to the playoffs with some of your stars injured that you're paying a lot of money to, then that benefits you.
So that just means that the rest of your team is really good, and then you can get those superstars back, and their money doesn't necessarily count. The rule sucks.
So the rule sucks. And I also think that if you're in the NHL, they're so bad at doing everything related to governing the game.
You could just have a bunch of star players and pay them too much money and probably never get caught. It's like the Rams trading draft picks that might not even exist.
You can just lie. You can just say, okay, we're only paying this person this much money.
And I don't think that the NHL has an investigative force that will come by and look too deeply into your books. Just cheat.
So the Canadians, it looks like it's going to be a tough one for them. I mean, the Lightning, everyone was predicting the Canadians.
And by the way, a couple people say I say that wrong. I put a little French into it.
I think that's what you should do. It's Les Abitants.
Yeah. A little Canadian.
Oui. They, everyone was predicting their demise for the last two rounds.
I think maybe this is the time that they've truly met their match. Yeah, a high goalie can only get you so far.
The Lightning are just fucking good. They're really fucking good.
Fuck third leg, Greg. Speaking of French, should we talk a little soccer? Oui.
I'm sorry. The Swiss won for the Swiss.
Our favorite 19-year-old is the GOAT for all the wrong reasons. That was a wild, two wild games on Monday.
What is this for? Growing pains for Mbappe. The Euros, bro.
Yeah. Is this the every year thing? Every four years.
It's two years when there's not the World Cup. Yeah, it's the Euros.

So at the same time as the Euros happening, the Copa in South America is happening. It was funny because Hank was like, you're like, I'm so over soccer.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I was never under soccer.
But you did say it today. You're a Super League fan.
You said it today when Monday had objectively maybe the craziest day of international soccer ever in terms of how crazy both those games were. They were insane.
The England fans were cool today. I'll give them that.
There we go. I don't want to be a soccer hater.
I don't want to sound like a soccer hater. It just doesn't do it for me.
You know what? I'm happy for you guys. He's not really coming off as soccer.
He's coming off as uncultured. Yeah, that's true.
Someone did say that when I talk soccer, they were like, you sound so much smarter. I was like, thank you.
You're really bringing down the sophistication level of this podcast. We are a football podcast.
Football. Football.
Right now. And yeah, it's coming home.
I like England. The problem with England is right now they look convincing in their win against Germany.
Now they have expectations. They're the favorites to win.
And that's a very bad place for England to be. We'll get into it a little bit with Roger Bennett, which we recorded, like, what, two weeks ago? Yeah, before any of this.
But now there's severe expectations on England. Yeah.
And that is prime. Like, Harry Kane's going to miss a penalty.
In the semifinals. He's going to sky it like Baggio.
Hit the moon with it. It is great how it seems like it's just 95% dudes in the stands just going fucking ballistic.
Yeah. The lads.
Yeah. Just taking their tops off.
Yeah. Fucking Czech, I think, maybe.
No, the Swiss guy. No, but I'm saying the Swiss guy was electric.
The entire, it might have been Croatia or Czech, but whatever. They went to it, and every guy had their top off, and none of them should be tops off guys.
They were all 30 to 40 pounds overweight, but they were just vibing out together. That sounds like Czechoslovakia.
Yeah, I think it was Czechoslovakia. I think Croatia, if you saw them, a lot of those dudes are in shape they got yacht week to get ready for yeah that's true yacht week yacht week is the we should do grit week yacht week there was a there was a brief second where i was like i'm gonna do yacht week and then i realized i'm not attractive or in shape ever to do yacht week like yacht week is the week that you show up to because you saw a commercial on Instagram and you're like, alright, so when does the fucking start? And they're like, oh.
I'm here. You shouldn't have signed up for this.
My body's here. We're gonna stash you under, we're gonna stash you like fucking Leo in the Titanic down on like the fourth deck.
There should definitely be somebody that's, like the Navy, the Croatian Navy should be in charge of policing the waters just to make sure no unhot people do. Yeah, right.
You're too ugly. Get out of here.
Go over to Greece. No, Greece is hot, too.
Is Greece hot? Yeah, Greece is hot. Hairy, but hot.
Yeah, hairy. Very hairy, but very hot.
And listen, I love the Greeks. Yes.
Great lemon soup. Great lemon soup.
Great gyros. I love Giannis.
Giannis. Great ligaments in greece great economy yeah good system of government sick instagram thousand years ago pictures in that one hotel with like the white roofs they've got great blues yeah good blue colors great blues a lot of smart guys back in the day that's true but also kind of pedow.
A lot of them. Disavow.
Disavow that. Tzatziki is elite.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Great sauce. An elite one.
Yeah. Great sauce.
Hummus. Elite.
The 300. They had 300 just dudes.
Dude, Spanakopita when it's done. That was the best.
That was Rome. That was Sparta.
Sparta, yeah. Right? Same thing.
Saganaki, the flaming cheese. That shit is awesome.
Wrestling, yeah. It's like going to Hibachi.
It's like you clap for it. It's an experience.
Like, oh, shit, they lit the cheese on fire. Pete Sampras.
Pete Sampras, American. Greatest Greek athlete.
Very hairy. Extremely.
I would say... Wait, was...
Jimmy the Greek. Jimmy the Greek.
No, no, disavow. Disavow.
What else we uh greeks i think agassi may have been from like syria mythology mythology yep neptune kind of hit that one's got to go zeus poseidon nike hercules nike is a god oh yeah achilles achilles was was a Greek god, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, my god. He's an Olympian.
Achilles, no. Poseidon is a badass.
I love Poseidon. Achilles was injury prone.
Yeah. He got fucking smoked on his leg.
He was the original. He was the original.
The playoffs were kind of ruined once he got taken out. Oh, Zeus, dude.
Why didn't we mention Zeus? Yeah, it was the Trojan War, right? Zeus is the best. Zeus is the guy.
Yeah, but one's got to go. Wait, what was it again? I think I said Zeus, Poseidon, Nike, Achilles.
Achilles. Achilles.
Yeah, get Achilles out. Gotta go.
Gotta go. Liability.
See ya. Listen, it's a put-up-for-start-up league.
Medusa from Smoke. Your best ability is availability, Achilles.
Smoke? Was Medusa Smoke From Smoke? Your best ability is availability.

Smoke?

Was Medusa Smoke?

No, Medusa's the fat chick with the octopus

She had a great personality.

What am I thinking of?

She's like a softball catcher.

There's a chick that's down to hang.

Like one of the guys.

Those who gaze into her eyes

will turn to stone. To Medusa? sounds hot that's hardcore i'm persephone yeah isn't that getting rock hard yeah yeah it's true hold up yeah because like if i were to be if i were to hypothetically say something like that to miley cyrus be like miley look me in the eye and turn my entire body to granite i would get bonked that's like an anthony wiener text being like you like you're so hot babe i just turned into stone yeah all right i don't know how we got here greeks yeah greeks all right so that was our euro 2020 which i like that they're doing that by the way gyro 2020 it says euro 2020 and i had i actually had a moment today i was like is it 2020 still no it's like the olympics're doing it again this year.
It's 2020. Everyone should just lie.
The last year didn't happen. Yeah.
Everyone gets a redshirt year. We all get to say that we're a little younger.
It is a medical redshirt, yeah. Yes.
All right. We were about to do Hot Seat Cool Drum, but we thought of a couple others.
Stavros from Comptown. Great Greek.
Great Greek. Grease the movie.
Grease the movie and one and two. Grease two.
My big fat Greek wedding. Yeah.
There you go. We're now back on a roll, boy.
I've seen it. We're back on a roll.
Hank just dropped the what? Get him to the Greek. Get him to the Greek.
The face that launched a thousand ships. Versace.
What was her name? Helen. It was Helen.
What was Helen's bod like? Because I feel like they're making a lot of noise about her face.

She was hot in the movie, Troy.

Alexander?

Is he Alexander the Greek?

The Great.

Oh, Plato.

That would have been funny if it was Alexander the Greek.

Wait, which guys are we disavowing?

I don't know.

Socrates?

Is Socrates a disavow?

Socrates, I think, is one of those dudes that would just eat grapes at the pool and fuck boys. Yeah, he got arrested for corrupting the youth.
This was like 3,000 years ago. Fucking Pythagoras.
Oh, you're okay with it then? No, but I don't know. Wait, wait.
You're talking about Socrates like this was his pre-woke period? Oh, he's evolved. What about Kevin Euclid, the Greek guy who walks? Yeah, fuck yeah.
Shout out Moneyball. Tom Brady's

brother-in-law. Yeah.

I think

we got it all.

Fuck. This was good.

Billy, you got one? Rick Pitino.

Yeah. Coach of Grease.

Grease, he's doing it tonight.

It's crazy.

He's a great coach. You think in the bedroom

he's got a ref stand next to him, like, on the foul line? And then he's like, yeah, not too much Sousiki sauce. We love Rick, though.
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All time. 1 a.m.

Is that the Kenny Powers attack?

He's the guy that looks like Kenny Powers with a mullet.

He was like an Olympic hopeful.

Everyone was saying he's going to make it, he's going to make it,

he's going to make it.

He was racing at 1 a.m. after we recorded on Sunday.

I was watching you in bed.

Big Cat was up tweeting about it, going crazy, and he came in fourth.

But I told you.

Didn't qualify.

But, Hank, I specifically told you that I was going to go to sleep, pretend that he qualified, and just forget everything and hope that he just showed up at the Olympics. Is he going to be like first alternate? Well, so there's – I got – this was Sunday night.
Just say he's first alternate. I get home and I see – so this guy – He got fucked in the race.
He got like bumped out. Yeah, no, he was getting elbowed.
It wasn't really his fault. Rubbing his racing.
Yeah. So like three days before someone had tweeted about it and I'd seen it and I was like, this guy fucking rocks.
He drove to the meet in an RV. I was like, I'm a Craig Engels guy.
And then I'm laying in bed about to go to sleep and someone tweets me like, dude, you staying up for your boy Craig Engels in 15 minutes. like god damn it so i stayed up i was like craig angles let's go he fucking finishes fourth and then there's some these track nerds are telling me like there's this rule that you have to run a fast time to get the standard but then there's all these points basically i just didn't sleep on sunday night because i was trying to figure out track rules fuck Fuck track rules.
Free my man, Craig Engels. I feel like it should just be, in terms of qualification, just take like the fastest 10 times in the world, regardless of who runs them, and then those fastest 10 people get to run.
I also think that Craig Engels, this guy could make a shitload of money just hustling people. Well, if he made it to the Olympics.
No, no, not even in the Olympics. I'm saying just being a sandbagger, just showing up places.
He steps out of his RV. He's got a runner's body, though.
Yeah, but he steps out of his RV wearing jeans and a jacket and smoking a cigarette. He's like, you want to race? There's a lot of race hustlers out there.
I think it could be the start of an industry. Just like, hey, man, you want to race me? 100 bucks on the table right now.
Let's do it. I would say no, you look way faster than me.
But you missed the point where he's wearing jeans and a long sleeve. I would still not race anyone for $100.
Def Leppard t-shirt. You do it? No, I'm saying there are people out there that think that they're fast.
That might be in really good shape. And they see old Craig E.
stepping off the RV. It was very unfortunate.
I felt very bad. I really wish he made the Olympics.
But I'm sure he's got a really nice job set up at Home Depot. Isn't that like all the Olympics? The Olympians all have jobs at Home Depot.
Yeah, but they only give you jobs there if you make the team. It's like a car dealership in college town.
Craig, we will give you a job. Barstool Sports, you can start as an intern.
This is really offensive now to craig angles and then last last night the uh the sons were coming back i think they were within one possession it was like 94 98 big had said the clippers looked they did and then they went on a run and just blew the game out of water never was in doubt also on sunday right after that tweet travelers uh opened the eight playoffs and i was like i think i'm rooting for this kramer dude, and he lost like two minutes later. So yeah, it's whatever, you know? Whatever.
My cool throne was the lads, also Sopranos. Yeah.
Yeah. The trailer for the new movie.
It's a movie. I thought it was a TV show.
The fact that it's a movie is a little bit worrisome. I don't know.
You're worried? Why does that worry you? I just feel like it's going to be hard The TV show is so good because You can extend the episodes, make them long Have it played out over Seven seasons Sometimes when they try and compact it all Into two hours, it's worrisome But it's James Gandolfini's son is playing Tony Soprano Young Tony Soprano Looks exactly like him, same mannerisms and stuff. I read an interview where he said he didn't watch the show until he did the audition.
Really? Yeah, I remember it. I remember, obviously, my dad being around and doing the show when I was a little kid, but I never watched it or anything until I was doing the audition, and it was super sad because I had to watch my dad the whole time.
So this is a prequel to what happened to Sopranos. I saw the trailer for it.
I loved every second of it. Except, is there a way where I can just fast forward any scene that Tony's mom's in? It's just like, she just reminds me too much.
She's the most annoying character. Well, we'll see what younger Tony's mom is.
No, but she's already annoying. Maybe they'll CGI her again.
Yeah. Maybe.
That would be... Yeah, I mean, she died in real life.
That's why they CGI'd her. Spoilers.
Right. Yeah.
Should I go? Yeah. Okay, my hot seat is sexism.
Sexism's on the hot seat because the Washington football team hired a female co-CEO today. So there are two CEOs right now.
Dan Snyder's one. And then they have a female co-CEO that they hired.

So it's just like, let's get the best person working here, regardless of their gender.

It's a meritocracy in the NFL.

So I'm very excited.

I'll say it till I'm blue in the face.

The Washington football team is doing what needs to be done to win in the NFL.

It's a lead up to go.

And it's Dan Snyder's wife.

There it is.

I love that it was so funny. We had a long interview process for it.
Yes. I think we have to do we have to take Dan Snyder's man card? For sure.
Oh, you're going to share the team with your wife, bro? It's like, what company has two CEOs? Johnson & Johnson. That's true.
Mike & Mike. That's true.
No, not anymore. The Property Brothers.
no no anymore the property brothers yep all right that is all the great organizations yeah it's a long list that out there uh yeah that was very funny that it was like trending i was like wait they hired a oh okay yeah so i don't know it's probably not going to make a single bit of difference depending on what happens with the uh the report that's eventually going to come out or maybe they're just pulling like what we do with a doctor and they're just never going to put the report out that they commissioned yes but you know depending on what they say in that it might be a way for dan center to be like i've transitioned the role of ceo to my wife it would be also hands off if he made his wife the fall guy yeah like just you know what set her up to then take all the blame. She can't testify against him.
There he is. Husband and wife.
Yeah. So, yeah.
My other hot seat is Poo Shiesty. Poo Shiesty, the rapper.
I'm sure you're all familiar with him. Hank? Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so he got arrested because he was committing a robbery down in Miami, and he brought his own money to the robbery, as one does. He had a bag filled with $100 bills, and he dropped the bag out of the side of his rental car during the robbery where he shot a guy.
And then they took the bag, and they compared the serial number on the $100 bill to some serial numbers he had flashing cash in his Instagram stories from like a month before, matched up personally. So Pooh Shiesty got a federal charge today.
I'm pretty sure the car he was driving to, he used in one of his music videos. So that was another like, yeah, Pooh Shiesty.
Not a match it up. Not a criminal mastermind.
I really thought he would be. He also has a lyric that was like, I can't stop doing robberies still, man.
Damn. At least he's honest.
Dude, I went down a little pooh-shysty rabbit hole today. He's shot like four people in the last year, apparently.
Like the dude can't stop shooting. His ad-lib is sick, though.
His ad-lib? Yeah. I know that's what I've been saying about him.
It's unfortunate. It's like...
You don't sound like a guy I want to have on my bad side, so I'm a pooh-icey guy. Yeah, big Pooh Shicey podcast.
My cool throne is the German coach who is eating boogers. Yeah, he got caught eating boogers again on the sidelines against England.
He also smells his ass. Yeah, he smells his ass, smells his armpits, eats his own boogers.
He can't stop. Actually, with England, I was thinking about this earlier.
Is this a dead mascot tournament for England for Prince Phil? No, because I feel like it's got to be the Queen, right? But he's a mascot. Yeah, if the Queen dies, I'm putting my mortgage on England.
Yeah, right. I think it's like maybe one game, but also, I don't know, 99.
Dude, RIP Phil, though. Let's do a moment of silence.
Big ups to our guy Phil. One.
He's out there. What? Only half of his sons are pedophiles.
Yeah, I was going to say, we're disavowing Socrates, but we're fucking Prince Philip. You're talking about Prince Andrew, right? Yeah.
Prince Andrew, the guy who doesn't sweat at all. Yeah.
So that's, hey, 50%. That'll get you in the MLB all, Prince Andrew should develop deodorant like antiperspirant.
He should be like, hey, this is Prince Andrew for Old Spice. All right.
Oh, Billy's just like that one. I don't know what he's doing.
He's hurting something down. All right.
My hot seat is Scottie Pippen. He's just got to stop talking.
I actually think he's doing a great job of pitching this bourbon or selling his book or whatever. He's got a book.
He's got the combo. So I guess, yeah, you're right.
In a weird way, he's doing a great job because everyone's talking about Scottie Pippen. But calling Phil Jackson racist for drawing up a winning play to Tony Kukoc.
And it goes against everything that everyone knows. Not only that Phil Jackson, he wouldn't.
that's jerry kraus's guy tony kukoc so why would he call up a winning play for him and then also like scotty pippen like the whole thing scotty pippen you hated tony kukoc you said it in the in the documentary when he came over like all these things make no sense so it was nice to see scotty pippen just go like, he just shot the moon. You know what I mean? He's like, fuck it.
Phil Jackson's racist. The only thing I'm pissed off about is like, what are we? Chopped liver? Yeah.
Scottie Pippen? You're going on all these different podcasts and shows and leveling just fiery takes and wild accusations and you can't be bothered to zoom in to part of my take? Do you think Scottie Pippen, maybe this is what he's doing and he's just a sneaky genius. Do you think like maybe he calls up everyone that he played with and all his friends? He's like, listen, I'm going to say some shit, but none of it's real.
Maybe. I'll talk to you in August.
Or he's on a scorched earth tour just getting back at everybody that's ever slept with Larsa. Yeah.
Yeah. But it sucks.
I think he just needs to stop talking because I love Scottie Pippen, but it feels like he just keeps going. He just keeps going and going.
And I don't think he's done. Is the book even out? No, Scottie.
I hope the book's out. Care to come on part of my take and discuss? I will absolutely.
No, I don't want him on here because he'll just say a lot of stuff that will like hurt november 16th 2021 oh my god we have so many months wait he'll say stuff about you no no no i'm saying he'll say stuff that like we you'll you'll get him set up to say something that's like like michael jordan's a fucking loser or something yeah i want him to say that on this show i don't want to do that scotty think about big cat stay away. Big Cat, think about how many retweets that quote card would have.
Michael Jordan is a loser. No one would even put part of my take on it.
Yeah, that's true. All right, my cool throne.
This was actually my who's back because I thought we were doing who's back. But it's still, it's relatable to me, but I think it's relatable to everyone.
My who's back is goodie bags. So I've been doing the two-year-old circuit, birthday party circuit.
I forgot about goodie bags. Yeah.
They fucking rock. So is it like when you go to a movie and you watch a Disney or Pixar movie, it's like there's some stuff in there for the adults too.
Do they include like- No, no. I haven't had that yet.
But just the idea. Like think about like the- Because when was the last time we got ahead of Goodie Bag? Like 25 years? I'm trying to think when I fucked Derek Jeter.
But you get a gift for going to a party. That's incredible.
It's amazing, yeah. It's the best.
So what goes into a two-year-old's Goodie Bag? It's like toys. Can I guess? It's in those toys.
Yeah. Okay.
So like a little figurine maybe of my favorite TV show. You don't know ages.
So you're like, all right. So it's like car keys.
Game Boy. Yeah.
Right. Challenge 24.
Yeah. But yeah, goodie bags are fucking awesome.
So you probably haven't thought about goodie bags in a really long time. They're back in my life.
And yeah, just getting a gift for showing up to a party is just a hilarious concept that makes no sense, but it's really cool. How does that work with a two-year-old's birthday party? Do all the parents just stand around the outside of a ring like it's a giant octagon filled with toddlers and just make sure no one's hurting each other? No, I mean, no.
You just let them go? Yeah, they walk. I mean, they're like real people.
Like free range? Yeah, yeah. Free range kids.
Go for it. Yes, yes.
Full, fully. Anything the sun touches is yours.
Jake, go ahead. Hot seat is Mike Francesa.
Uh-oh. Tweet slash video resurfaced from three years ago when he said, quote, The Yankees are lucky they didn't get him in regards to Shohei Uhtani, who hit two home runs off of the Yankees today.
Yeah. So Mike and the Mad Dog a couple of years ago.
Cool thrown is Big Cat Your Goat Novak Djokovic. In his opening round of Wimbledon, he won a game in 44 seconds.
Four consecutive aces. I had never seen that before.
What? It's insane. It's an unbelievable clip.
The guy does not come within five feet of hitting the ball. It's incredible.
It's actually one of the craziest clips I've ever seen. I both tweeted it yesterday.
When you said he won a game, I thought that he won the entire game. No.
I thought that too. I thought that too when I clicked into it.
I thought the guy was going to retire in one second. There's a point.
There's a game. I know, I know, but I'm just saying my cool sports brain was like, wow, he won the whole thing.
I'm watching it right now. This guy's not even trying.
No, it's just incredible serves. There's nothing you can do about it.
Maybe move over to the right a couple feet. Or just feign.
Instead of down the tee. Just be like, ah.
Right. That's what I'm saying.
If I would break an ankle or something, you have to fake an injury. He's also just leaving the middle open.
Yeah. Dude, play some defense.
At some point, you've got to guess one way or the other. And just sprint to that side right when he serves and hope that you're correct.
Right. No, he didn't even try.
At least get a hand on something. He didn't even try.
So you don't get aced four times. He didn't even try.
44 seconds. That's incredible.
Dude, he hit it in the same spot every single time. Hey, Hank, I can't help but notice that your caption was, I would take a fall and say my ankle was broken if this happened to me four times in a row.
Playing tennis, that sounds a lot like what happened last summer with Jake Marsh, where he hurt his ankle.

Are you taking a shot at Jake?

No, that wasn't.

It is strangely coincidental now that you say that.

I think Jake was winning that tennis match.

That's the only difference.

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Okay, here he is, Roger Bennett. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests.
He's back in studio, which is fantastic to see you. It is Roger Bennett.
He has a new book out, which, so when you listen to this podcast, it will be out. It is called Reborn in the USA, an Englishman's love letter to his chosen home.
America. America.
I mean, you're, let's start here. You're more American than us at this point.
I think I am more American than Kid Rock, Bruce Springsteen, Kenny Powers.

If you squash them all together, that's kind of approaching my levelness.

Do you feel like you know more about America than we do?

Right now, to be honest, what do I feel?

I feel excited to be in the same room as the human being that single-handedly stopped the Super League.

Yes. Super League.
Yes, Super League dead. I Mistaken to it.
I noticed you didn't thank me. Well, it's like not every day you get to meet someone that has performed that kind of task, both geopolitically with those kind of consequences.
I mean, you think, who's in your category? Jesus? You think Mother Teresa, maybe, arguably, in with a shout, your listeners will no doubt argue. Bono, definitely.
You're like Bono, but more modest. That would be sick if we could actually force people to have iPhones that had our podcast already on it.
I thought you guys had already done that. Yeah, no, that's how we got number one.
Wait, so the big question about the Super League. You obviously were against it.
Football is a sport. We had our guy troops on saying that basketball is a business.
Baseball is a business. Football is a sport.
It's for the people. But with all that said, it would have been sweet to watch the Super League.
You are flipping sides. No, I'm just saying.
I'm saying i'm happy that it's gone but if you if i told you you cannot be both this i told you who swooped in in the hour of need when the working class right game right of europe was about to truly be submerged you cannot be the gentleman that saw the bat single i think and then swooped in to save all of us save humanity i don't like to be hyperbolic, but you have to save humanity. You cannot be that person.
And then when in walks me to bend the knee, you cannot be the person who then tries to flip it over. Hear me out.
Maybe I made a mistake. Yeah, hear me out.
Hear me out. I'm happy the Super League didn't happen.
It was a bad idea. It would have ruined football, soccer.
But I then had a moment, like a week later, I was like, you know what would be sick if on like a Wednesday afternoon in November, Barcelona was playing Liverpool for the Super League. They still are.
No, maybe not though. They still are.
Maybe it's not the same though. It doesn't have the history behind it like the Super League would have.
You're me the reality is football is amazing it allows us to feel things like emotions that most normal people feel in real life like happiness sadness joy failure but you know i'm dead too inside so football sports in general allows us to feel those things. And it's a...

In came the shakes. In came the oligarchs.

In came the American sports

owners. Don't blame LeBron James.

Blame LeBron James. But you know, I'm not pointing a finger

at LeBron James, but Liverpool,

it was within weeks of him taking ownership

that the flip was switched.

I like

what you just brought up though, because I think it does

ring true that sports allows psychopaths to feel human for a moment to pretend they're human and we invited in these American sports owners because many of the ones who were the ring leaders in this it's hard for me as someone as we've already established is like possibly I don't like to blow my own horn possibly the most American human being of all time all time and All time. All time.
And in Kane, the American is your Stan Kroenkees, who it's not clear to me actually knows he owns Arsenal. I think it may just be a rounding error.
He doesn't? He knows he owns one of those NFL teams. He's not quite sure which one.
He knows he owns a hockey team. And he's, you know, the football thing.
It's not clear to me actually. I think he thinks he owns Manchester City.
I actually agree with you. When we were watching in the office, because Troops is a huge Arsenal fan, we were watching Europa and they were playing Villarreal.
I'm saying all these names wrong. No, no, no.
Everybody else is saying them wrong. You're saying it right.
Yes, exactly. And then it was like a Thursday afternoon at 12.30.
I was like, there is no chance that Stan Kroenke's watching this game right now. Yeah, I believe Kroenke is probably that gentleman with loads of lackeys.
And he's ultimately, we won the league again, right guys? And they're all just like, yeah, yeah, tell him he owns Manchester City. So you've got your Kroenke's, you've got your Boston Red Sox owners, and you've got your Glazers, your Tampa Bay owners who own Manchester United.
And we welcome them all in. They've got ideas, they've got new, you know, brilliant ways of running things.
And we welcome them in. It was a bit like that old sci-fi show, V, where we welcomed in, like, the aliens who seem nice from outer space.
And then they showed they had forked tongues and started to eat all the english people yeah and it was i'm not gonna lie it was a bit it was a bit dark trying to turn what is precious what has grown over century over a century just the evolution the history the traditions um and to try and turn that into wrestlemania was a bit dark but wrestlemania was sweet there you go no wrestlemania is is the top selling of the summer every summer another analogy because you just were like they try to turn into the best thing that's ever been they try to turn into rough and rowdy then so but that actually is probably more apt the reality is that you um i love american sports i love the bears i love the white socks. I love, I mean, how did that happen? It's remarkable, but I don't understand why, you know, American sports teams are like, okay, St.
Louis Rams are leaving. Okay, see ya.
And then you fans just embrace them. I'm like, why are you not all saying that you could all lose your team? You should all rise up.
Should all not let this happen. Honestly, because our TV is so much better.
that's that's what it comes down to like in

england you're like ah shit what am i gonna watch the like the the baking show again no i better go out and riot over here it's like we have unlimited options those are the two options yeah by the way right by the way mr bean as well i will say on loop i will say those two options are pretty good pretty good pretty good for most english people pretty good the Pretty good. For many, pretty good.
For most English people, pretty good. The decision tree, Bake Off or Riot.
Yeah. And then maybe you'll be like, what day is it today? What did we do yesterday? New episode of Bake Off.
I'm sick of writing. Oh, man.
Let's watch this Bake Off. I'm sick of writing.
What I don't want to do is to sit here on your couch and look down upon people for whom rioting or Bake Offoff is enough in life but i will say in my book which i write about this book is a love letter to america it's been a crazy year this is actually the first time i have left my studio i built a studio at the beginning of covid and just tried to create content every day like churchill hunkered down in the war room just you know in these in these dark hours is where the true character of human beings is defined i've tried to create as much as possible and it was a weird time for america and there was no sports didn't really know what to do so i wrote this book and about my love of america i tried to think i went back to like i love this place this is the place i've organized my life around the idea of america is the thing there been a beacon of courage and tenacity and joy I grew up in Liverpool in the 1980s it's the greatest city in all it was a dark and twisted place in that time unemployment super high not a lot of hope it was written off by Mrs Thatcher she really demonized the city we had music we had football not much else huge heroin epidemic and the city life has lived in black and white and i kind of survived by connecting to american culture like i realized english culture was all about don't worry there's people who are more miserable than you you're not bad off enjoy their misery just soak that up their misery they're worse off than you and in came american television miami vice my god we hadn't teal had not even been invented in liverpool when i saw that show uh moonlighting her heart to heart all that crap and i was just like oh my god that is what i want so in a large way you know bake off or riot ultimately was not for me um but the third option yeah it is which is um Bruce operas bruce springsteen and oh yeah public enemy oh my goddess tracy chapman tracy chapman that's actually on your wikipedia page that you're a huge tracy chapman fan i don't know how that got on how how big of a tracy chapman fan chapman fan do you have to be in order to have that listed as one of your characters i have never touched my wikipedia page which is like my birth date is wrong all kind of crap is wrong on there and i left it all everyone's like fix it fix it but i'm like you know when you do an interview with someone you kind of know whether they've done their research when they're like you were born 19th september yeah and i'm like okay this i know what the interview is gonna be but there's someone beautifully that if it's you listening because i I know everybody in America legally has to listen to this show, if it's you that finished off my Wikipedia page by saying, I think it's something like, he's very fond of Tweed and Tracy Chapman. Genuinely, I want to thank you.
And furthermore, I've just decided, when I die, that is going to be on my tombstone. I can't think of a better summer.
It's what I want people to know. He was Fonda Tweed.

All the emotions contained between those two books. Everything else doesn't matter.
I also

want to give Roger credit, so we're going to date

this interview right now. So we're going to air it

when your book comes out. But right now

we're watching the first group F, the first

game in group F, Hungary vs.

Portugal, and Roger has given

an incredible interview while never

taking his eyes off the screen.

So credit to you for that. I'm looking at this

mesmerized by this Portuguese team who look like

Thank you. and roger has given an incredible interview while never taking his eyes off the screen so credit to you for that i'm looking at this mesmerized by this portuguese team who look like a huge bottle of dracon war come to life what uh can you you have to pick one the goat and i you can't say like you know pele or or maradona or whatever anyone else in the history messy or Pinaldo? Who do you have? I just learned that everyone calls him Pinaldo because all he does is kick penalty kicks.
I do want to say this is a bit of a Sophie's Choice. This is like in your world, someone at gunpoint saying, Big Cat, who is the NFL GOAT? Is it Tom Brady or is it Josh Allen?'d be like it's different you make a case for either you can make a case over and I think I think like that the reality is the world is divided there's two kinds of of football supporters there's football supporters who over pluck their own eyebrows and there's football supporters who don't and if you are in the former category the plucker you'll normally lean towards rinaldo yep and if you just go au natural and just let it be what it is because you don't give a crap you normally appreciate the body of work put together by leonor messi this is though you love you say you love america how much do you love americo because we have to oh almost scored right there.
We have to frame every debate on who's the best of all time and every single game. Like if you notice, Kevin Durant, they're playing – by the time this airs, he might be out of the playoffs.
But every game, every shot, every dribble is an indictment on whether or not he's one of the greats or not. And his legacy is perpetually on the line so you have to you have to watch sports that way reality is after um i'm now getting a bit i'm definitely touched deeply by that you know glimpsing that frailty of life but it the the obsession that of zero sum that has to be ronaldo or it has to be messy or it has to be lebron or you're kidding if you're leaving scotty pen.
I mean, the reality is the NBA goat is always Luke Longley and it annoys the hell out of me that he's never mentioned in any of the Bulls' histories. But ultimately, that kind of deep desire to eliminate each other and absolutely crush each other, I'm trying to encourage a sports fandom that's based love.
Okay. Okay.
Good luck with that because it's not going to work. That was beautiful.
That was beautiful. It's tough to fill three hours of daytime television on ESPN with just Stephen A.
Smith being like, I really appreciate Dabo Cephalosha. Mate.
Wrong. Can you imagine Stephen A.
Smith if he became a force of joy, of positivity, of affirmation, and love? That would be amazing. You would have Tony Robbins out of business immediately.
Yeah, that was so eloquent. And at the end, the whole time I'm thinking, like, dude, come on.
Messi's way better than Ronaldo. He could have his Tricor Quest moment.
Just spread love and total joy everywhere. He would turn it off instantly.
Mate. I mean, that's kind of what we're doing, though.
Isn't it positive't it positive to say Messi is the greatest of all time? Yeah. We're appreciating Messi.
And we take it as a slate against ourselves if somebody chooses to challenge Messi with somebody. I actually personally think Diego Maradona slash John Harkes is the greatest player of all time.
Slash Colby Jones. Slash Freddie Adu.
Yeah. By the way, I agree with all.
There's not one word. America will be world champions.
Please God in Big Cat's children's lifetime. This World Cup, first of all, we have to qualify for it.
And if we don't... Give it to me straight.
If we don't... Are we going to make this World Cup? I want us to qualify, but if we don't, that will be funny.
If we don't, we'll just make up another tournament that we can win. Yes.
Like we did a couple of weeks ago no that's a that's a legit championship people got very mad at me in 2016 because i said that before 2018 i said if we don't qualify that will be very funny and it was very funny it was a dark day it really was but it was also funny oh mate it was you know in english education they teach 1066 the norman invasion they teach they teach that as if it happened yesterday. To any English kid, that is a brutal moment in history.
You feel that. I never quite understood that because obviously I was watching Debbie Gibson and I was watching different strokes.
My mind was looking elsewhere. But my God, when we didn't qualify for the World Cup, that was my 1066 in every regard.
So I'm glad you took pleasure. Well, the problem is, what I love about soccer and soccer Twitter and the media is I actually very much enjoy watching soccer.
Like, I do. I like watching the games.
But at the end of the day... You're an owner.
Yeah, I and a savior yeah and a savior but my priorities are not they do not lie with soccer they never will there's other sports that I care far more about so I can show up to soccer say some shit to piss people off and then be like well actually I really only care about like real football so like what what do I care and it's the perfect troll level yeah for you yeah yeah but you gotta know you gotta know we're about to go we're about to enter into the promised land and yeah and that's what i said when he when he scores that goal on angola in the world cup final and elbows the guy in the head at the same time and then just roars you will be you, you will be first up. We'll basically be up on the table with those shirts up.
Absolutely, like, I like watching international soccer way more than I like watching club soccer. And does that make me, is that the equivalent of being the, I like college basketball more than professional basketball guy? Mate, I think it makes you more like you like watching Nate Robinson fight one of the Paul brothers rather than real boxing.
That's true. International football is a bit crapper as an actual game, but what you get with international football, and I think this is what you were getting at, I'm sure it was, was that when the two teams two teams take the field their nation's histories take their field alongside them so we're about to watch france and germany this afternoon oh they've never tangled have they i don't know if i want to watch you just put on the history channel well they don't they like each other right it's a lot of what's uh what's the most sensitive uh Premier League club fan base? Like the fan base that you find, because we'll do it too with American football where we will say something and most people are along with the joke, and then all of a sudden you say one thing about one person, they're like, what the hell? Yeah, how could you say that? It's like, all right, well, we're taking the piss out of everything.
Follow along.

So what's that fan base in England where it's like, no matter what,

they always get the most offended?

There's a human darkness in all of them, Big Cat.

It's like genuinely, I mean, the 80s still lives deeply within each team's fan base.

I feel like anecdotally speaking that maybe not the most sensitive fan base, the fan base that gets the most shit is Tottenham. Is that fair? It feels like they always, because they're always good enough, but never that good.
They're always kind of... You just described my life.
Who amongst us is saying that they're good enough, but not that good? Man United fans, Manchester City fans. The reality is everybody has their angst, and English culture, and again, I write about this a lot in the bloody book, was a lot about putting people down.
The reality is your joy, your American joy, in the 80s and 90s, was that so much of what came out, that soft power, that culture that I imbibed, you know, Rolling Stone magazine, Saturday Night Live, Bruce Willis, all that crap that came out, all of it said you can, whatever. You were saying there's a darkness amongst most British soccer fans.
Most British. Most British in general.
Full stop. Is that even Leicester City fans? Especially Leicester City fans.
Mr. City fans, you know most british most british in general yeah we'll stop is that even leicester city fans after after especially leicester leicester city fans you want the rest of the world again saying it wrong leicester yeah you say it right you say it right you make it say what about leicester if you hit the jackpot like they did a few years ago no one thought it was possible nobody did mate and and they end up living out the dream and and winning and they're finished what they were like by far and away in first

place i'm a bit angry at the leicester city fans the leicester city i'm very happy for them it's

amazing what they experienced in their lifetime genuinely i'm so thrilled for them i'm also a bit

annoyed that that happened because it gives you hope it's true it's one of those things that gives

you hope to like it's it's basically like george m Mason going to the Final Four and you're like, oh, or every year when some team gets into the college football playoff and you're like, hey, Washington, or beat Alabama. No, they can't.
It's Pete Davidson dating another supermodel. It's like, well.
One day. Ultimately, we have a debate

on our show all the time

because my partner,

Michael,

supports a team,

Chelsea,

that win a lot of things.

So his approach to sports

is sports is all about winning.

And that,

by the way,

when he first...

He's the true American.

When he first...

Yeah,

but the reality,

he's not...

The New Orleans Saints,

the New Orleans Aints,

Bum Phillips,

hilarious,

all that stuff.

Ultimately,

you know,

when Chicago Rares,

one of the joys

when I did move to Chicago, finally, I just went over there after university first opportunity moved to rogers park where i'd never set foot in but i thought it was hilarious that they had a little place that had my name and i i became friends of everyone they'd invite me around to the game and i loved on sunday just the same people coming together just joyously watching the Bears crap the bed, bagels, beers, just amazing times. Ultimately, the memories are what are important.
Knowing you're going to watch your team, Chicago Bears, you're going to watch your team, Swansea City, you're going to watch your team, whatever. Capitals, both of you guys capitals.
I mean, yeah, the funny thing is so many of of the teams that i do support i am drawn to the darkness so many of them are historically self-sabotagingly awful chicago white socks this is our year and um i mean that's the reality it is the commonal memories the memories that you share with the cats is the cats kids as they get older that your family your friends all that is that, those shared moments. And when something randomly good by chance does bloody happen, which is so fleeting.
I mean, it's life. I'm not really talking about sports.
Life is crap mostly. Life is dark.
Many challenges. But when you get a moment of happiness, of joy, a TJ Oshie goal when they're shorthanded.

Just a joy.

Just savor it.

Savor that memory.

And you just got to learn to dance like you're at your own kid's wedding.

It does make the highs higher when the lows are so low.

So at Capitals especially, like when they won the Stanley Cup,

I felt like I had earned something because of all the shit that I had seen and like the heartbreak. So that one moment was a lot different for me.
I actually felt, like you said, I was a psychopath that was pretending to be human. For a brief moment, I was the most human person on the planet.
Everybody else. Did you like it? Yeah.
I never want to go back, but it felt the moment. Like, it's good.
If I had that one time, it's wonderful. If the Capitals were to go on and win, you know, if there were to be perennial champions, I think each one would be less sweet.
And I would quickly develop into the type of personality where I'd be like, I'm a winner. I root for winning franchises.
And it's a direct reflection on my personality that they win so much. We had Lewis Hamilton come on the show.
And I think he just won his 87th straight championship. And I was just like, what? You know, after you've won this many, do you not just want to go and...
And he looked at me like I was a complete and that's a moron. And he's like, no, I've got to win again.
I've got to win again. And just that that was a...
I realized in that moment I was in a Star Wars cantina we were completely different creatures from completely different planets of us competitive fire that burned in that human being which he had more competitive fire probably in the discarded tip of his fingernail and I had in my my whole body all that time so in your book you say this might be another Wikipedia mistake so mistake so tell me if i'm wrong you say that uh you became or you were driven to become an american citizen because of the united states performance at the 2014 world cup america so if that if that led you to want to become an american citizen what have the last three years of american soccer made you want to do like did you storm the capital where were you on January where were you I can't provide any proof of my whereabouts I think my mate Paulie walnuts can vouch for me the what I just say that on our dining room wall we've got a photo of a gentleman from six generations ago I think everyone says he's my great great great great great great grandfather and i'm always i always used to say to my grandfather i'd always say who's that and they'd be like oh we don't know his name no one can remember his name i'd be like well why did we have a photo of him he'd be like he's the cossack killer he's the one when the cossacks came for us he killed them all save the family he's the cossack killer and i hope that in six generations time my nbc headshot will be on the wall over my family's dining room and simply will be like who's that who's that guy and they'll be like oh yeah we don't remember his name but he's the one he's the one who brought the family to america and that is uh that is genuinely my wish it is it's a weird thing to no it's great to say but it's the greatest achievement of my life i also think as an, it's refreshing to hear that from time to time. Yeah.
Because in the news, there's a lot of bad stuff that people are always talking about. You know, there's certainly some things we could be doing better as a country, but a lot of times you lose the perspective that it is, you know, a symbol of hope for a lot of people who would change their entire lives just to become a citizen here.
I think that it's important to like remind yourself of the luck that we have growing up in this country. You know, when I became a citizen 2018 to stand in that line with like 243 other human beings from 63 countries, you know, I, I just survived being, being beaten up in a late night chip shop after the pub shirt in Liverpool.
That was like my big survival of being beaten by a teacher, a bit like the nuns in the Blues Brothers. That was my big survival.
But you would look left and right and you really did see human beings who had crawled across deserts, who'd survived civil wars, who had crawled here, driven by that same notion of america that joy that wonder that sense of possibility and so what you say you know it's a tiny bit sincere for this show so i'm gonna dial it back in but my life has been very much like the first half of scarface it's like it's just oh no and i'm incredibly i always turn it off it has it's been like that and i'm i'm so that there's not a day I don't wake up in Manhattan and take for granted the opportunity to live here you were in your bedroom just looking at the Statue of Liberty that city is like a big pussy that's just waiting to be fucked the world is yours Scarface not me I love me. I love it.
Everyone go buy the book. Roger, I'm quoting cinema.
Everyone go buy the book. Reborn in the U.S.
It is out now as you're listening to this. I actually think that you're a bigger coup for the United States.
Getting you over here is bigger for me personally than Prince Harry. We got both of you guys.
Yeah, we were both. I was the player to be named later in that trade.
Yeah, you had a bag of balls. Piers Morgan.
For a bag of balls. No, it was Piers.
America said, take Piers Morgan back, please, for the love of fucking God. Get rid of Morgan.
And England had to cough up Harry and a player to be named later. And I was, I am that.
Cap consideration. I can give you a good three innings of middle relief.
Yeah, I love it. All right, well, Roger, everyone go check out the book.
It's fantastic. Also see him on NBC Sports all the time, Men in Blazers.
If you don't watch that show, I don't know what the hell you're doing. You're not a real soccer fan.
And thank you. Oh, and thank you.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. You have heard him in your living room.
He has brought you some of the biggest sports moments. It is Joe Tessitore.
He's a broadcaster for ABC ESPN. And Holy Moly with Steph Curry and Rob Riggle is out Thursday, June.
What's today's date? 16th. June 17th.
June 17th. Tess, you just said that you were on a bunch of different radio shows.
We are going to make sure that this one. Big Cat, Big Cat, worse than that.
Radio shows are fine, bro. I just did 11 straight local news hits.
And local news, it's like, I don don't know about you guys but like local news is its own beast now yeah like the way they talk the way they do spike it's very very sugary so i am happy to be sitting right now chilling with you guys because that is mind-numbing yeah let the expletives fly if you want drop as many cuss words as you want on this show that is that is mind-numbing stuff were you able to keep track of the different cities that you were doing the interviews in yeah you want me to give you a quick here let me give you you rank these if you were doing local news you ready all right so we busted we opened up with uh portland very very sweet yeah in fact the traffic reporter joined in because her son is a big fan of of the show likes holy moly likes wriggle and the whole thing very very sweet people but anytime you get the traffic reporter joined in because her son is a big fan of the show, likes Holy Moly, likes Riggle and the whole thing.

Very, very sweet people.

But anytime you get the traffic reporter involved in the entertainment segment,

that's where my career is, by the way.

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We'll see you next week. Francisco, Buffalo claiming that it's always beautiful in Buffalo.
Yep. Yep.
Facts. Rockford, Illinois.
Yep. Rocking Rockford, Illinois.
Shout out Fred Van Zliet. Yeah.
Sean in Rockford, Illinois. Nice guy.
Sacramento, Wichita, Kansas. Huge Rob Riggle fans.
Huge. Yep.
The whole KC play. He plays out there, yeah.
And then your boy Mark. Your boy Mark at WLS, ABC, Chicago.
Gotcha. Okay, nice.
So I like getting the traffic guy involved. Was he in the helicopter when he did it? No.
Now, I would have been all for that, and I would have gone long with that. But, no, this was like the traffic lady who's up at the green screen, but the son's a big fan of the show, so she wanted to get involved, talk some Holy Moly.
All right. So, holy moly, it's, you know, son's a big fan of the show so she wanted to get involved talk some holy moly so all right so holy moly it's you know it's the perfect summertime television i hope that's not a diss but i really don't believe it i love i love those summertime shows so rob riggle steph curry but is there a moment you went to you know journalism school you're big jay monday night football you've done big time college games you've done boxing all these things are you like wait what am i doing here no so just the opposite big cat so for me it was like i think i had done a championship fight uh that weekend and and my guy out in la is like hey man um folks at abc want you to come down monday for a meeting i'm like what's the pitch and he's like, it's extreme mini golf.
I'm like, come again with that?

It's extreme. We're taking mini golf and we're supersizing it.
I'm like, that is so ridiculous that that's like an automatic yes for me. So I loved it.
And listen, you know, the deal with this when between Monday night football and the SEC and the boxing, sports we take so seriously when we broadcast. The Twitterverse is ready to explode over everything.
For me, hanging with wriggle and busting balls on people out on a mini golf course or getting their faces smashed in and falling into freezing cold water, it's the greatest departure of just enjoying myself i've ever had with a mic on it's fun man yeah riddle's a blast it's a great juxtaposition with the uh patented uh joe tessitore big game voice announcing mini golf some people say that you've got the big game voice which lends credence to any game that you're calling. Other people say it's the test effect, meaning that just when you're up in the booth, crazy stuff happens around you.
It's like a chicken or the egg situation. Which one do you think? Do you think that you bring the magic? No.
No, I think I've just been working for a long time, and I got bills to pay. So I'm out on the road every week doing enough sports where you're going to catch some awesome games and some fun stuff's going to happen.
And then because my personality as a broadcaster tends to be, you know, excitable reaction and, and big, you know, they associate those things with me, but listen, man, I'm, I'm the son of an Italian immigrant who grew up in a big family in New York. We were loud on Sunday dinners.
We were competitive. We like having fun.
So it's just my nature to sort of react that way when there's drama, games on the line, or big plays happening. It's a big knockout.
Okay, because I heard a different story. I heard that occasionally you're liable to sprinkle some of your magic Joe Tessitore dust out on the field to make the game start being exciting.
No, PFT, that I like goofing around with the crew. That I like, the little magic dust to see if we can get overtime.
Yeah. I love the – you know what I really like when you're sitting up there and you're broadcasting a football game is when you're looking up at the scoreboard and you got the oddball score and we're sitting there in a commercial break and you hit the talkback and you say to your buddies, the director and the producer, you're like, if we get this and that and this alarm, if we get this and that and this, we could get eight points this way.
And then I feel like trying to work your way towards overtime as the game plays out that I enjoy. I'm always rooting for overtime, always rooting for overtime.
Hey, by the way, you guys have totally taken over the world now. I'm sitting back watching what you guys have done the past few years i know it's the first time i've been on with you guys but it's incredible what you guys have done and i wake up this morning i'm seeing 60 million dollar podcast deal god bless everybody yeah yeah it wasn't you but it's gonna hey it's gonna be you soon enough yeah i mean this is some serious stuff you guys have created.
All right, so thank you. Your check that we sent for you to say that will be in the mail.
All right, so you just mentioned something when you were talking about how, you know, doing serious games, you're not worried, but, you know, everyone takes everything you say very seriously. I've always wondered when you're in the broadcast booth, accidents happen.
I don't – I actually think that we're too hard on broadcasters in general just because you're doing three and a half hours four hours of a game there's gonna be i'm allowed to i'm allowed to return business text while we're having our conversation yes yes yes something's gonna be uh you know screwed up something's gonna you're gonna screw up a name how much does it suck though when you do screw something up and you're like all right everyone's gonna run with this like the decaf metcalf uh flow on monday football are you like do you beat yourself up about it in the moment no i mean yeah you want you want everybody wants to pitch a no hitter and have fun and and you know have fun while still pitching the no hitter and be perfect. But you learn it comes with the territory, and I think I've had some great producers and great friends as analysts

who guide me.

I mean, I'm a pretty intense guy.

So, yeah, in the moment, you may be beating yourself up a little bit,

but then you reflect on the real world and life, and you just let it go. Yeah.
Listen, Booger McFarlane's like a brother to me. He's a dear friend.
And I know he loves the two of you and, and PFT. I know you guys have these battles, these Peloton.
Yeah. He just kicks my ass.
So it's not much of a, it's a one way rivalry. Dude.
Is he unbelievable for a guy that like was walking around at 330 pounds for what he's able to? I think a lot of times we just forget that even defensive tackles, even the guys that you look at on a football field, and you're like, wow, that guy's kind of fat. There's still like top .001% of athletes in the world.
I look at his Peloton outputs. How in the world is he producing these numbers? But anyways, the point being, Booger's got a great attitude, and he was very, very good for me in terms of, you know, when you're not satisfied, when you do make a mistake, what happens? Because he's just got a great attitude and great spirit about him, and he always brings that joyfulness every time he's on the air, and I think you see that in the work he's doing now, and I know you see that with the business he's had with you guys.
But, you know, long answer to a short question, but that's where my head's at with it with it well what about when booger gets his hands on the telestrator and you're watching him draw and you're like oh god he's about to draw another penis like dude you nudge him and you're like hey man maybe like make the shaft a little misshapen but yeah when you have the two safeties over here and then you have the right guy yeah i've been in that position. You know what's funny about that? You should YouTube that, but Tracy Morgan actually did an Estes bit with me maybe about three, four years ago where that's exactly what he did.
That was the bit, man. And you just – it was so frigging funny, but Morgan crushed on that.
All right, so you came up with boxing. I'm curious this you still obviously assume love boxing I gotta fight I gotta fight to Vegas in like an hour there you go fight Saturday night on ESPN so what do you make of uh all these celebrity boxing matches you know the Mayweather Paul thing is it good or bad for boxing well the only the only part that's I'm all for anybody.

Boxing is unbridled capitalism, right? That's what it's always been. It's the Wild West.
It's all cash grabs. I'm fine with the cash grab.
I'm fine with exhibitions. Exhibitions have been going on in boxing for years.
Ali used to do it. Heck, George Foreman fought five guys in one night.
The exhibitions are never going to go away. It's pure entertainment.
The problem is, is when the public actually believes they're watching a fight. I mean, Floyd Mayweather is sitting there telling you for a month, I retired from boxing five years ago.
Like I'm just, if they're going to pay me this money, I'll go in and just do this and carry the guy and dance around. But when the public actually thinks they're watching a fight and are talking about it as if it's a fight, buying it as if it's a fight, the coverage of it is as if it's an actual sporting event.
That's where I don't go for it, where you're fooling the public on that. Floyd told everybody straight up what this was.
It's a flat-out cash grab. But people are sitting back like, what did you think? I thought this and that.
I'm like, what are you what are you talking about dude like do you go to the week of the pro bowl and you're analyzing like you know joe montana playing a a beach touch game against other old retired like what it's it's

just an exhibition it's a cash grab it's a it's a good point it's a good point and um i i just i

love boxing i do think that boxing has suffered from not having that, like, allure of a big-time heavyweight champion that everyone is drawn to. You get a little bit of it with, you know, Tyson Fury.
Right. Have you ever had Tyson Fury on? Have not.
No. Oh my God.
No, this guy's an all-time character you guys would be awesome with him awesome so what do you think it is because i do think that boxing still like if you told me that there was going to be a big time huge fight heavyweight fight i still think that that's a moment like i've been to big i've been to a big boxing uh you know fight at MSG like I've I've been to these that you can't we went to McGregor uh Mayweather in Vegas which obviously a little bit exhibition but also had the big fight feel there is nothing truly like that like it really is in its own category so how do you how do we recapture that with boxing listen boxing really hasn't gone away If you look at the money that fighters are making, that promoters are making, that networks feed into it. What happened with boxing, and especially for our generation as sports fans, is that it was tucked away in the corner of premium cable and pay-per-view because of HBO's lead position for 35 years.
So HBO and the promoters that were attached to them, and they did a wonderful job. I mean, Jim Lampley and everybody in that production, standard bearers of the sport, and they did a wonderful job with it.
But what it did was it kept the same eyeballs that were willing to pay between 50 and $100 every single weekend in the sport. So for an entire generation, they only came and went from it for a few key events.
But boxing has been actually, I would almost tell you, in a golden era in the lower weight classes. And then recently with the emergent Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, now you're starting to get some compelling heavyweight fights again that do big business.
Tyson Fury, July 24th, is fighting Wilder. It's a Fox ESn share pay-per-view if he gets through that he's going to face anthony joshua in what's going to be a global mega event they had the term set for august 14th there were some legal actions that got in the way the site fee for that fight alone is 155 million dollars so on the global stage the sport has really never gone away yeah and so if you were to design like what i'll put it this way what's your favorite sports announce because you do it all you do you do football you do boxing so you've done horse racing right yeah i did the triple crown on abc and the belmont for years and now that's all over on nbc man i love it all but i like um you know i tend to lean to i really love where there's something on the line like um listen i'm going to be out there and play a role for the McGregor-Corey trilogy fight obviously I do boxing in the offseason every week for ESPN and for pay-per-view love college football to no end love it to no end love the tradition and pageantry so if I stay in my lanes where where I have some level of expertise passion you know genuine authentic

passion for it that's where i want to be and that's i've been blessed in my career to do that so um when there's a when there's a great fight yeah when somebody digs deep when somebody gets up off the canvas and there's great drama and closes the show the moment of a fighter closing the show of stalking the prey and getting the knockout in Vegas with a championship on the line is tremendous. It's tremendous.
Kickoff in the SEC at Bama or under the lights in the swamp or at LSU or Rocky Top, it's the opposite. Like the kickoff, the anticipation for college football, the pageantry, the lead up, that roar I love equally as much.
So, all right. So sticking on college football, what's your favorite venue to call a game in and maybe your favorite memory from that place? Well, you know, favorite memory is more recent.
And it, it's stunned me and it's shocking because, you know, I've done some awesome games and the crews I've been on, we've been really blessed to do great games all over the place. Um, and games are very meaningful with the national championship and right through the college football playoff.
But you know, you may know that my son plays for Jeff Halfley at Boston college, but last year when they were playing number one Clemson on the road and he pulled off the fake field goal, something about that we'll cherish forever. I happen to be in the booth calling the game on ABC.
You know, you never expect it. You don't know it's coming.
And here it is. My son did that.
So I don't know that anything's ever going to top that for our family um favorite place to call a game boy those 40 years when when the swamp was rocking was great great um I still love being high above at Bama that's great um Kyle Field now is different that place is different I tend to be an SEC guy right I tend to love

everything that comes with it so i know book's gonna kill me for saying nighttime in baton rouge you know is not the first thing that comes out of my mouth but i may i may go with a&m guys wow i may go with a&m yeah, on the other side of that coin, what area, what fan base do you hate the most? Because I know you probably get shit like our friend Joe Buck. Hey, bro.
I went to Boston College. My son plays for BC.
So you know where Notre Dame stands in our house, all right, man? You know the way I view a trip to South Bend. I got a lot of friends who are Notre Dame guys.
I've been close with a lot of folks through the years there with the Irish. But when you're a BC guy and you're on the other end of South Bend, that's a quick answer for me.
So you brought up your son. That was a great play.
You mentioned earlier that if you screw something up in the booth. By the way, you know my son's a kicker and punter and holder.
That was a great effort by you last year getting out there on the field. I appreciate it.
You know, the man in the arena. Sometimes you don't really appreciate what's going on until you try a few kicks yourself.
What did you think of it? What did you think of doing it? Well, I used to kick, and I kicked when I played rugby for a while. So I knew that I was able to, like, not totally embarrass myself.
So I was just happy that I didn't, like, fall down. You had a very – so you did some things that, like, are just so naturally good, like your jab step and your drive step, very, very natural.
Did you ever go live? Did you go full live? I didn't go full live. No, the tryout, what you see is what you get.
I think there were five kicks. I think I made three of them.
The other two were very narrow misses. Would have been good on a high school upright, which is what I trained on, not making excuses.
But I went out there and executed. And your son, he's a kick a kicker he's also running back because he did get that first down uh when you were announcing that game did like as a play-by-play guy you got to be prepared for everything right did you have any inside information that this was a play that they might be running no PFT that that's actually one of the great tags to the story is that you know John didn't tell me anything the and the whole week, you know, I'm sitting there prepping and I'm with Dabo and I'm with Venables and I'm with that whole side of the world.
And then I get to production meetings with Boston college and the whole week we, we were just never talking football. He was getting ready to do his thing with his teammates.
I'm preparing for my broadcast. So I go down there afterwards.
I walk across the field and make it over outside the locker room and he comes out and he is hot like a hornet because remember they were up by 18 points and they lose a tight one at the end although you were probably catching the big number there big cat I'm hoping I can't remember what I had in that game I think I might have yeah I think I had BC in that number in that game yeah you should have been catching double digits there and laughing all day long. Anyways, and I said to him, hey, man, no heads up on that.
He goes, I couldn't tell you. I knew it was in all week long.
It was in the playbook all week long. But no, he didn't give me the heads up on it at all.
Wow. We've got a guy in our studio right now, Jake Marsh.
He works with us. He's a play-by-play guy.
He's a trained play-by-play guy. He went to Syracuse.
He's a big J journalist. I'm sure he has some questions for you, but do you have any advice specifically for Jake? No, I don't.
I'm sure he's kicking ass and he's going to do fine. And those Syracuse guys, that's the assembly line of knowing how to do it.
I didn't study journalism. I didn't study communications.
I was in the school of management with everybody who's now working at a hedge fund.

I have a business degree. But I just believe that a lot of times when it comes to this,

when the red light goes goes on, you're either going to be able to do it or you're going to piss down your leg.

And, you know, I think there's a lot of truth to that. And I think, you know, you got to know sports inside now.

You have to work in the field. So the whole time I was in the school of management with all these guys that have crushed it on Wall Street now for the last 25 years, you know, I was sitting there doing college radio, doing play by play, getting in my crappy Oldsmobile and driving down to Texas during breaks to work in a non-union shop just so I could get experience in local news and just learning in the field.
And I think that, you know, for somebody like that, I think the more you do it, the better you get. And I'm sure he's already really good.
All right. So, Jake, do you have a question? Because we basically – like you have a big J journalism question.
Yeah, of course. Right? Yeah.
All right. How's it going, Joe? Big fan.
He likes to go by Tess. And also, Jake, let's try to remain neutral here as journalists.
Yeah. Can't say that you're a fan right off the bat.
Right. Stay neutral.
Thank you. How's it going, Tets? Thank you for taking the time.
It's going well. So when I'm calling games, sometimes I feel like I have the issue of maybe getting too excited at inappropriate times, or I feel like you want to save your peak excitement for a game-winning touchdown, but when a touchdown happens at 14-7, I feel like I'm getting too loud as well.
So how do you manage that? I don't know. I mean, you want to be measured.
You want to be appropriate. But does any of this really matter, especially nowadays? Can we just be joyful? Do we have to have rules to everything? I mean, just be authentic and joyful and enjoy calling a game.
Heck, everybody loves Gus Johnson, don't they, my man? Nope. What? I don't.
I think he's terrible. You don't? I don't know.
No, I think he's terrible. Listen, I think if it's natural, Big Cat, if it's authentic and it's natural and it's good, it's good.
You don't want to be out of control, obviously. You want it to be appropriate.
But if it's authentic to who you are in that shit,

I think anything that's contrived and forced I call bullshit on.

I mean, just as long as it's authentic to who you are.

I agree with you there.

I think you guys have a very hard job,

but I do think at the end of the day I want to be brought through the game

and never have a moment where I'm like, whoa, he's trying too hard or he's doing something that like – That's it. Well, you just sit on it.
Right, right. But the one thing that you guys have to deal with, and I'm going to give you a little tip here.
You didn't ask for it, but gamblers – now that gambling has become legalized everywhere, what Jake just described, like if I have a team and they score a touchdown and the announcer doesn't react in, like, an excited way, I get pissed. I'm like, dude, where's the juice? You're on that side.
Where's the juice? Yeah, like, I want some juice for this touchdown. So you guys are now entering a time when criticism is probably going to get a little hot.
I'll just throw it out there. I like to criticize.
Listen, I think it's actually going to to be big cat i actually think that the growth of of gambling and accessibility is going to be the best thing that happens to our business because nothing's going to be meaningless there is no meaningless it doesn't matter what the score is it also doesn't matter what the game is it matters what the handle is where the juice is where the action is so who cares if that game's on the number if that game's teetering on the total if that game's playing in that range what does it matter now if you've got a blowout so that whole idea of blowout material screw blowout material man if we're catching 24 who cares if it's a 28 point lead agreed so are you going to talk about it more openly because i know that we've always had al michaels has given the nods to it but now that it's becoming legalized it would be nice if uh announcers mentioned that stuff like that's a bit even though it's a touchdown to take it from 28 to 21 the spread's 24 and a half and that's a huge touchdown yeah listen you do whatever the public demands my whole thing is just serve the viewer if that's where we are and that's what the viewer demands, then we serve the viewer. So if that's how they want to be spoken to and broadcast to, you know, we got great people wherever I've worked, ABC, ESPN, no matter where I work, who understand these things and they'll guide us.
If I'm being told, hey, play to that, serve the fan that way, I absolutely will. And as you can probably tell, I could be a little too comfortable doing that.

It's very much in my lane to play to that and to have an understanding. Whoa, that was anti-Italian.
That was anti-Italian, Joe. Not anti-Italian.
I grew up in Schenectady in New York. It doesn't take much of a Google search to understand the neighborhood I grew up in and who I grew up around.
And I'm very well versed at that. I was reading the daily racing form before I learned math, you know? So it's just who I am.
It's what I like. I've spent most of my adult life in a casino in the off season.
So, you know, like I said, I'm heading to Vegas in an hour here. So, you know, sitting there and glancing at the, at the board is what I like to do in boxing.
I think it's actually, I actually In boxing, I actually like the players in boxing. And in boxing, we have gotten to this place now.
When you watch the fight on Saturday night, I'll talk about the prop plays. I'll talk about the over-under the total rounds.
I'll talk about the money line. And I think it makes boxing an interesting watch as well.
I think combat sports is a real good watch when you've got juice. Yeah.
Do you think that you're the most Italian person at ESPN? Well, we got some beautiful cougie at ESPN. We got some wonderful people because we're here in Connecticut, and we have the densely Italian-American population here.
But I'm very, very proud of my heritage, my ethnicity. I'm very proud of the fact that I've had a career speaking English on national TV when my mother came here on a boat and couldn't speak English.
And eight brothers and sisters had a total of $9. So when you guys can get yourself to Connecticut, come here.
We'll fire up the wood-fired pizza. We'll make yourself some Navaratana pizzas.
And we'll hang out and talk sports in the backyard. I heard that you have a pizza oven in your backyard.
Love it, man. Love it.
That is my passion. Like some guys, you like golf.
I like making pies. I like opening up really good tequila, getting the wood fire going, and spending a Saturday or Sunday with everybody coming over and just making pizza all day long and drinking all day long.
That is how I want to spend a weekend. I like that.
Sounds incredible, honestly. I like that.
What's your summer go-to drink?

Any novelty drink. Coors Light.

I like Coors Light. I'm a Coors Light guy.

Coors Light seltzer.

Coors Light. I said Coors Light.

Coors Light. The mountains are blue.
But also,

if you were to twist my arm, any

novelty drink that's served in a punch bowl

with New Amsterdam vodka and

a giant beer that's suspended in

mid-air. If you can serve me a drink that's in a non-traditional vessel, I'll order it every time I see it.
Love that. Look, you're the coconut carb guy when you're on vacation in the Caribbean.
Yes. You're the big one.
Yeah, you're all in. Love it.
Love it. I have one last question for you, Tess.
Everyone go check out Holy Moly. It's going to be on Thursday nights.
Have we talked Holy Moly? Yeah, well, yeah. Thursday, we talked about it at the start, but I just threw it in there.
That was a professional journalism thing I just did. Holy Moly, Thursday night, Steph Curry, Joe Tessitore, Rob Riggle.
Check it out. Awesome.
Can we just, Big Cat, can we pause for a moment? Can we just pause and think about the fact that ABC has literally handed the keys to us for two hours in prime time to do two hours of extreme mini golf, wriggling myself up there doing this, and Steph Curry and this team, like in craziest holes you could ever dream of. And this is two hours of national TV.
This is what we are as a society. Can you bet on it? Do they have lines on it? Now, obviously, it's taped.
But let me tell you something. Wait, what? I'm very serious.
Yeah, so obviously, it's taped. That's entertainment.
Why do you say obviously? But the quarter million dollars is on the line. But it was taped.
But if we ever did a live finale, it would be the greatest live action betting you could ever. Yes.
All right, so get it done. Get it done.
Because you could bet on the obstacle, yes or no. Can they run past the porta-potties before getting knocked in? You can bet on the stroke play.
You can bet head-to-head. If we do a live season finale some year, that has to happen.
I love it. My last question was Kawhi Leonard had a dunk the other night and Ian Eagle said it's a Kawhi light.
Yeah. Do you, those type of like little jokes, puns, whatever you want to call them, do you plan those ahead of time? Or you're like alright, Kawhi's playing.
If he does something sick, Kawhi light. You know, I don't.
I just like, you know, I like, you know, the one that they attached to me is, you know,

Texas is back, folks, when it was a double overtime.

You know, years ago when they had the Notre Dame game,

double overtime, Sunday night on ABC, monstrous rating.

Great.

And, you know, Swoops brought it in.

And just in that moment, remember, Notre Dame was top 10.

Texas thought that they were going to be like, here we go. We got this thing where we want it and the program.
And here's this signature win. And instead of doing the play by play, I just did that.
So I just always react in the moment. And Texas is still waiting to get back.
We'll see. But I just always react in the moment.
But the one thing with Holy Moly that I love, you guys talk to Riggle, right? Yeah. Riggle's part of your life.
I mean, he is so good to just sit there and chill with and laugh with. He's so quick-witted.
He's so funny. So with Holy Moly, there's no scripting of anything.
They just start rolling from the moment we walk on the set, and it never stops. And then they just take this mountainous stuff that we film overnight from 7.
PM till 5.30 in the morning. Half the time we're delusional.
We've got a lack of oxygen to the brain because we need to sleep. And they cut that thing down and put it on ABC.
And it's just all on the fly. It's just all ad lib react to what you're seeing and have fun with it.
And he's taught, he's taught me a taught me a lot about how to do you know i gotta do the straight man comedy to his bits um and there's nuance to that but he's he's a joy to work with uh just one one little thing that maybe you could use we use this in our cornhole broadcast the other week big cat was playing cornhole and i was doing uh i was doing color so he i think you made like is this on youtube can i it? Yeah, I think you made four corn holes in a row and I was like that's Mr. Hole.
You should call somebody Mr. Hole.
You know we had a hole last year called Uranus and this year we have a hole called, it's a woodpecker themed hole that's simply called the pecker. So I could use some advice as to how to deal with with those you know we actually the producers on holy moly this year i think it's in this thursday night at eight o'clock episode there's a hole called cornhole so they said they said hey everybody loves cornhole everybody loves a good tailgate summer fun you know drinking beer so we'll do a a cornhole themed hole and they've got the the ear of corn 30 foot long, and they've replaced the kernels.
Like every third kernel is now a car airbag. So as you're running past the thing, you get launched.
I mean, absolutely launched. I think that's actually on the episode that airs Thursday night.
Okay, that's a great tease. But just use Mr.
Hole. Mr.
Hole is a good nickname. I think it plays.
Mr. Hole.
All right, well, Tess, this has been awesome. Why don't you guys come out to the filming in California next year? We'll put you on some of these holes.
I mean, I'm in, in theory. What time of year do you see? What time of year do you film? We film like the whole month of March.
You know, Steph comes out a little bit. Riggle and I are there every day.
But, yeah, in March. You come out to L.A.
one day in March, we throw you on some of these holes. You have a blast.
All right, counterpoint March Madness. Well, you're four hours away from Vegas, and you can get stupid in Vegas betting on March Madness.
Counterpoint, counterpoint. I don't know if ESPN will let us back on the air or the Disney family.
Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, it's okay.
It's okay. They might get some letters.
they might get some letters no initially because i don't want to get hurt again i okay i'll let you guys deal with that all right well test thank you so much uh we'll be tuning in holy moly and appreciate your time guys congratulations on all your success really honestly keep it up man thank you thank you. Thanks so much.
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Alright, let's wrap it up. We got some guys on chicks

and then Billy, whatever you got for us.

Henry.

What happens to you

on the toilet? Why so sweaty?

What?

Why do guys sweat on the toilet?

I don't sweat on the toilet. I mean, sometimes.

Like if it's hot. Or if I've

eaten something really spicy.

That girl's guy is doing something. He's jacking off on the toilet.
He's doing something. He's doing something.
Blow. Something's going on.
He's doing all his push-ups. A little toilet blow.
He's doing his push-ups on his toilet. How does she know how sweaty he is?

Is this like Blumpkin territory?

I don't know.

Why are guys so sweaty on the toilet?

Are you guys sweaty on the toilet?

Occasionally.

I mean.

If you've got to work it out.

But nah.

Nah.

After a big meal, maybe.

I'm just sweaty in general.

Yeah.

Hi.

Hi.

You can tell. I'm not going to say it.
What? A lot of exclamation points in this paragraph. Uh-oh.
Hi. Huge fan of the pod.
Actually, my top now. Exclamation point.
My question I have is, what moment sticks out for you as your most embarrassing barstool experience ever? Thanks so much. Caitlin.
Most embarrassing experience here. I'd say probably when...
I mean, every time that Hanks posts a picture of me. He's probably mine.
I had a bad picture. Posted some great pictures here.
I had a bad picture in Hong Kong. Made me reconsider a lot of choices.
When Billy posted my penis. Not the Molly at a rugby game.
No, that part was fun. If I had been like 15 pounds lighter, that would have been the best decision of my life.

Yeah, probably every time Hank posts a picture of me.

That sucks a lot.

Also, anytime I get duped online, that always sucks.

That always burns a little bit.

Although, I'm kind of over it now.

But there's definitely been a few times where I'm like, shit.

Shouldn't have retweeted that. What about peeing your pants on camera?

No, that was funny.

That was just straight funny. I guess I was a little embarrassed.
No, I mean, I think Caps won the championship. I would say actually when Eric and Dave had to have a real conversation with me about peeing in the sink.
That was a little embarrassing. That did suck.
It was a weird month when we were like, it's funny that Big Cat pisses in the sink. But we were in an office with 100 people in two bathrooms.
It was an obscene situation. It was actually a fire code issue.
Yes. So I was actually helping everyone.
Right. And I was running the water and soap every time.
And saving money on the water bill. Right.
Exactly. You were looking out for the bottom line.
But also, it hurts. It did hurt a little bit.
If you hadn't pissed in the sink, that probably would have cost our company at least like $20 million in valuation when we got purchased. Yeah, that's true.
Also, getting our TV show canceled after one episode. I feel like that was more embarrassing in the first five minutes, but then once I realized how much less work we had to do, it became pretty cool.
Yeah, that one kind of sucked. Wait, they're showing...
Oh, no, this is... Never mind.
All right, keep going. Hey, PMT crew.
Why does ice cream soothe a lady's menstruation? Is that true? Because then if that's true, I must be on my period all the time. I don't know.
According to this question, it is. By soothe, does that mean alleviates cramps? Yeah, and I also don't know if she means eating it or, like, applying it.
Oh, like putting it inside. Yeah.
Let me just be... Probably, yeah.
She's probably sitting down in a pint of ice cream. Let me be totally up front here.
Like, periods, to me, are on the same level as, like, trying to understand the universe. Nah.
Just exists? Yeah Yeah, it just, I don't... If you think about it too much, your brain will start to hurt.
It's the red planet. So I stay away from it.
I stay away from it. Yeah.
I think it's honestly just a matter of ice cream makes everything better. You could say, how come ice cream alleviates my nipple pain? Yeah.
Well, because it's ice cream. How come ice cream makes me happy when my favorite team loses? Well, because it's ice cream.
Right. One doubt, get a pin.
All right. Is it weird my boyfriend picks his dingleberries and tries to get me to sniff them? Yes.
Kind of weird. Is he the coach of Germany's national team? Yeah.
Sounds like it. Hello.
How will PFT's ownership status of the Packers be affected with this new involvement with the football team? It's a matter of business with the Packers. I look after the bottom line, and with the football team, it's just I'm part of the fan network.
Although, I do. What's the new involvement with the football team? I'm a football ambassador for the football team, which.
Why? Because. You got duped.
What? I didn't really get duped. Tell the story.
So I want to support the football team, and because you got doomed i what i didn't really get to the story so i i i want to support the football team and they asked me if i want to be on on the council of fans and i said sure and i was like this will be cool maybe it's like uh what maybe it's like me maybe it's like me kevin durant wale matthew mcconaughey and then this was like all and then i get celebrity And then I got on the Zoom call with Ron Rivera, and he's like, congratulations, you're our celebrity fan. And I was like, this is depressing for the Washington football team that I am the celebrity fan.
Who else is in it? A bunch of fans, which is great. I love the fans.
Wow. So I don't know.
Is this going to affect my journalistic integrity? You thought he was going to get on a Zoom call with Kevin Durant and Matthew McCona You were like You thought you were like This is going to be sick I'm going to have meetings With all these A-listers I'm an A-lister now And then you're like No no not at all I just I thought that You kind of did in the back of your head No I didn't Kind of like Of course they asked me And Kevin Durant and Matthew McConaughey Absolutely Absolutely not. But I was thinking, who are the biggest name football team fans that there are?

And none of them are on this list.

It didn't at any moment.

Because just you explaining it before you even got to the end,

it struck me as the Washington football team basically doing something for PR

to be like, hey, we have fan ambassadors.

We're listening to the fans.

You didn't realize that? No, but I got to have a Zoom

call with Ron Rivera. Got it.

What does it feel like?

What sucks is I think I might have to do

work now. Yeah, no, I say no

to whatever. I assume

this was maybe a KM

asked you to do this. Yeah, she was

involved. Yeah, I'm just like

nah. What does it feel like to come as a man? Awesome.
Yeah, pretty good. Like ice cream.
Actually, ice cream's better. It feels, uh, I mean, it's just, it's real good.
This is weird. Yeah.
I'm just guys on checks. I'm answering the questions.
Hey, Hank, describe your orgasm. Well, it makes it make sense.
A check would want to know that. Tell us in intricate detail what it feels like to come, Hank.
Feels great. Lightheaded.
It's kind of like when you hit a home run in baseball and you don't really feel the ball hit the bat. Touch them all? Yeah, touch them all.
That's pretty much what I can say. Floating? I've never done either.
Hey, fellas. I'm currently on vacation alone in Florida and waiting for my family to get down here.

I'm 28 years old and can't decide if I should just go to a random bar and get shit-faced. What is the appropriate age range to do this? As a woman? Go get shit-faced by yourself? Yeah.
Oh. I'd say it's all.
Waiting for her family, though. She's not, like, depressing.
She's just got nothing else to do. She's waiting for her family.
Well, it's also, but but OK, so this is actually a tricky one because I think that there's the age range is irrelevant. It's more that if you get fucked up and then your family shows up and they're like, wait, you're fucked up by yourself.
They're all going to just immediately think you have a problem. So you got to be careful on that end, especially because they can't drink on planes anymore.
Right. So they're all going to be like, wait, what happened here? Why are you fucked up? If your family's going to show up drunk, then I think it plays.
Right. But was she asking, can I go out by myself like all night and get drunk and then go back home? Or is she just waiting for her family that very day? I think you just got to eat a lot of ice cream.
Like that really would be the point. I also think it's more acceptable To go and get shit faced by yourself Outside than it is indoors In terms of age in general I feel like It's I said this the other day I think it's like 32 33 Is right around when you can't be The like you're the drunkest guy At the party guy right at that point In the back in the back of everybody's head, it's like, this guy has a problem.

Yeah, like, oh, shit.

Like, what's up with him?

Like, why is he by far the most wasted?

And meanwhile, the second most wasted guy is like,

that guy's cool.

That guy's hilarious.

Right, right.

So I think that's probably the age cut off for being drunkest person at the party.

That's it.

All right, Billy, anything to wrap up?

So Rick Pitino is actually kind of in a bad place. He just lost to Canada, and everyone was saying that once Giannis came to play for the Greek national team, that would be like saving grace.
That kind of didn't work out. So his Olympic hopes are kind of dashed.
Guess who else is Greek? I don't know. That's a good question.
Philip I. We know him how? Oh.
Is that Prince's dad? Yeah. Oh! Yeah.
He's Greek? Wait, so how the fuck is he in the royal family? He was born in Germany, man? He's like a mail-order prince for the queen. Seriously.
Wow. So the queen was horny.
Yeah. Wow.
And they just brought him over. say this.
She got a stud. Also.
Wait, why is this guy giving the ball to Dak Prescott? He doesn't need a. Oh, he's signing it.
Okay, never mind. Go ahead.
Also, the woman who put the sign up that caused a crash slipped through French authorities' fingers and escaped the country. Oh, really? She escaped from the French? Yep.
uh and to that i think it was to damage all the mini um motors in some of the people's bikes there's this new thing called like so once lance armstrong got caught for doping there's this new thing called moto doping where they put tiny motors inside the bikes like seamless and door dash no like tiny no I know yeah but like the bikes that go through the city

they use

yeah

yeah tiny motors inside the bikes. Like Seamless and DoorDash? No, like tiny.
No, I know. Yeah, but like the bikes that go through the city, they use small little motors.
Yeah, but like ones you can't even see. Nano motors.
So a crash would be a good way to destroy all the tiny motors. I saw it on 60 Minutes once.
Wow. And yeah, female hyenas have penises.
Wow. All right.
Shout out. Love is love.
All right. Quick reminder.
It's Pride Month. Aren't they called Prides of Hyenas? Yeah, that's true.
Wild. I think they might be a cackle.
Nature's. A cackle? Yeah, I think it's a cackle.
It's a cackling. Yeah, pride is a lion.
Oh, yeah. That was close.
Okay, so Friday we have Tim Woods. Awesome Dungeons & Dragons, no show Monday, back on Wednesday and Friday.

So that's the schedule for the 4th of July week,

but we will have a show on Friday.

It will be a new show.

All right, let's do numbers.

59.

86.

99.

69.

69.

8.

69.

69.

69.

69.

69.

69.

69.

69. 69.
69. 74.
Have we ever had a 74? Welcome to the three-time club, 74. Love you guys.
talking away.

I don't know what to say.

I don't say it anyway.

Today's another day to follow you.

Shine away.

I'm coming for your love of pain.

Take on me Take me on Take me on I'll be gone It is J.O.T. See you next time.
Thank you. We're learning that life is okay.
Stay after me.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Stay after me.

Stay after me.

Stay after me. Stay after me.
Drink on me Drink on me I'll be young Little drink on me All the things that you say Is it life or just a play but Burries away You're all the things I've got to remember Shying away Are we coming for you anyway? Are we coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on Take me on I'll be coming for you Get up to your chest. I love you, good girl.
But I'm too young, too.

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