Wade Phillips, Jokic MVP, The Nets Are Unstoppable & Aaron Rodgers Holds Out

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Speaker 4 On today's part of my take, we have a great interview with Coach Wade Phillips, all-time football guy. Also was paid for by a quarter horse, which you have to listen to that story.

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Speaker 4 I was gonna say,

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Speaker 4 thank God we are a regular season Nuggets podcast because we just want MVP boys. Let's go.
Hell yeah. All right, good job, everybody.
Shout out to our regular season Nuggets.

Speaker 7 Also, shout out to Derek Rose. Derek Rose won the MVP.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He got one vote. Yes.
The fan vote. Oh, sorry, Hank.
Was that going to be your cool throne?

Speaker 4 Don't worry about me. My bad.
But yeah, you got one vote. It was nice.
People got very mad.

Speaker 7 It was the fan vote. I'm sure that there was some sort of fan organization around that i actually had

Speaker 4 i just voted a million times were you elected to online yeah like a hashtag thing yeah yeah it was a hashtag i don't know if you saw i was doing it from youngstown bob's account uh but yeah no jokic wins the mvp the lowest drafted player to ever win the mvp 41st pick yeah the fattest kid to ever grow up into the mvp he that picture of his little titties which i think you can say right even though he's under 18 well yes since it's a boy you can say his little boy titties

Speaker 4 is going to be stuff of legends for all the fat boys out there for the rest of the time. Like, if you have a fat boy, you put that picture up on your refrigerator.
Like, see that guy?

Speaker 4 He's the MVP of the NBA in 2021.

Speaker 7 His little manlets, he is definitely a shirt-in-the-pool kind of guy.

Speaker 7 It's fat boy summer, according to the hard facts guys.

Speaker 7 And so I've noticed that there's a huge amount of fat pictures. Not even fat pictures.
There's just a lot of pictures of Jokic as a child. Yes.
how often was he getting his picture taken?

Speaker 7 Because now it's like every time I see it.

Speaker 4 That's pretty regular. Yeah, that is kind of regular.

Speaker 7 Well, it's every time I see a picture of a fat kid, I think that it's Nikola Jokic now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he, I mean, it's it's a hell of a like the 41st pick in the draft is crazy. It was such a low pick in the draft.
Did you see the videos recirculating today in the live broadcast?

Speaker 4 It was a Taco Bell commercial. They were running.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they were running a Taco Bell commercial during the draft pick. It's amazing.
That was how people found out who the Nuggets were.

Speaker 7 What was the analysis, the live analysis of that pick? It was

Speaker 7 one of the ones they just didn't talk about.

Speaker 4 Add a taco and a quesadilla together, you get a quesorito.

Speaker 7 That's perfect. He should be called the big quesorito.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4 All right, so just a couple stats. That could stick.
Yeah, it could stick.

Speaker 7 The big quesorito?

Speaker 4 The big quesadorita. Might have to make sure that you're going to be able to get a

Speaker 4 little of this, a little of that.

Speaker 7 And Taco Bell, if you want to wet the whistle a little bit on that.

Speaker 4 It's too bad we don't root for him anymore.

Speaker 4 Co sons.

Speaker 4 So, lowest draft pick ever to win the MVP. First draft pick, or sorry, first MVP to play every game in a season since Kobe in 2008.
Take that for load management.

Speaker 4 It was only 72 games, but still should count. And he was top five in total points, rebounds, and assists.

Speaker 7 And he's just a cool-looking MVP. You know what he is? He's like a combo breaker because you're going to see a lot of the same people winning MVP back to back to back to back.

Speaker 7 And I'm sure some of the usual suspects will come back next year and the year after and continue to win it. He's going to be a trivia question down the line.

Speaker 7 I'm telling the audience right now, there will come a time in your life when you are asked who the 2020-2021 MVP was, and you're going to need to remember this moment when I'm telling you that it's Jokic because it will win you money.

Speaker 4 Yes. And also who got one vote? Derek Rose.
Yeah. Yeah.
Those are both going to be trivia questions. Derek Rose is another combo breaker for his MVP.

Speaker 4 You know, I just love watching him play. And I know we're not a Nuggets podcast anymore in the playoffs, but he is one of those guys that like...

Speaker 4 Just everything about his game is so much fun because it doesn't fully make sense, but then it's just beautiful to watch.

Speaker 7 For a second, I actually thought he was on the jazz.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah he could be we are watching the jazz right now it's on the background it's 1048 yep pretty late so we are paying attention that game with one eye we are we are we're giving the west coast some love kawhi leonard is awesome there you go playoff dub uh so let's talk real quick the suns are fucking electric guy fiery is now on the bandwagon in flavor town and uh i i'm actually like i know we don't like bandwagon fans actually i have no problem with bandwagon fans i always i always thought it was so stupid to be like more people are buying this stuff and like the city is more electric.

Speaker 7 Yeah, what's the issue? It's actually awesome, but it's like movies.

Speaker 4 Yeah, right. Like everyone's getting pumped about it.

Speaker 7 Is it the fan version of a super team, though?

Speaker 4 Well, my point about Guy Fieri is I think he's America's fan.

Speaker 4 I think he should just go from city to city, sitting courtside or sitting like 50-yard line for the best team every year and be like, yeah, I'm a fan of this team now. I think he gets a pass.

Speaker 7 I think Guy Fieri should be America's mascot. Yeah.
He's like, he is everything that we thought the Bald Eagle would be. Right.
Like, it's tough to root.

Speaker 7 When I see Guy Fieri on the sideline, I just think if you're cheering against whatever team Guy Fieri's cheering for, then you're essentially rooting against Flavor. Right.
He's Drake's Wario.

Speaker 7 He's the good version of a bandwagon.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so he should be everywhere.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Bald Eagle, even though you're almost extinct. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Big Cool.

Speaker 4 We have a plethora of Bald Eagles.

Speaker 7 We're about one bad mating season away from being forced to, everybody in America go buy a gun and kill a bald eagle.

Speaker 4 It's a federal crime to kill a bald eagle.

Speaker 7 It is, and that's why they keep fucking. Yeah.

Speaker 4 There's 316,700 individual bald eagles. Oh, we're good.
The lower 48. Dude, that is such a

Speaker 4 lie they told us. Not even including Alaska.
That's the lower 48, I assume, is not Alaska.

Speaker 7 No, Alaska is the southernmost state based on maps.

Speaker 4 They gotta have like fucking stars.

Speaker 7 It's always down

Speaker 4 in Hawaii. Do we consider Hawaii?

Speaker 7 Hawaii is the southern state.

Speaker 4 They're not alone in Alaska. They told us the bald eagle was in trouble like 15 years ago.
I think there's more bald eagles than humans in Alaska. Yeah, probably that's true.

Speaker 4 You could pick any edible.

Speaker 7 You can't swing a dead cat in Alaska without knocking a bald eagle out of the sky.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're like mosquitoes in Alaska. Just bald eagles everywhere.
But we love them.

Speaker 7 We love them. They're just nowhere near as cool as Guy Fieri.
Guy Fieri represents everything great about America that the bald eagle does not.

Speaker 4 Right, right, exactly. So suns, way to go.
Go, sons, go. I do love the fans.

Speaker 7 There's something different about the the camera angles that they're showing the fans at. Either that or they're just cooler.

Speaker 4 No, you know what it is? I think everyone has just a touch of like sun poisoning at the Suns game. That could be it.
Because it's in the desert.

Speaker 4 So, you know, that feeling when maybe you've had a couple drinks and you've been out in the sun all day and it's really hot and you feel just an extra little bit punch drunk.

Speaker 4 That's what the Suns crowd is every time.

Speaker 7 There are also more children there. It looks like half basketball game, half Dude Perfect concert.

Speaker 4 Well, they're easy. You're early because they're like seven.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're like seven. The kids can get home on a school night.
I like that certain things are bigger than sports. Yeah.
There's also an element of the Suns fandom online.

Speaker 7 I think it's a small thing right now, but it's gaining steam. Have you seen Chugging with the Fellas? No.

Speaker 7 Best I can tell, it's a group of like a couple hundred Suns fans that just chug beers after wins. Yeah.
And they just videotape them. They're Dana B.
The entire fan base is Dana B's.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 Suns, Suns Twitter actually is like, I want to give a shout out because I somehow follow a few of them, but they have a very strong, I always respect any fan base that hasn't been good in a really long time.

Speaker 4 And it's like, I saw a tweet that was like a roll call beforehand, and like everyone was replying. I was like, this is kind of cool.
It's very positive.

Speaker 7 I like Sun's Instagram a little bit more. Here's something from Sun's Instagram real quick.

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 4 I think that the Suns actually won today. I don't really know.
I'm just seeing a lot of memes and shit. So I don't know if you know Monty, but can you please tell him that I want the MVP award?

Speaker 4 Because I just really think that it's my fault that they keep winning. So please get back to me.
It's her fault. Olivia's so bad.
And I hope you're not cheating on me.

Speaker 4 But if you are cheating, at least wear a condom. Okay.
Love you.

Speaker 4 So that sounds like you guys are.

Speaker 7 That's one member of Sun's Instagram.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.
Bonk.

Speaker 4 Her. I like how she's actually a beautiful way to live life, though, is she doesn't have to check the box score.
She can just determine who wins or lose based on the memes.

Speaker 7 How many notifications she gets?

Speaker 4 It's true 2021 shit.

Speaker 7 Like, why were the Sixers doing the suck it thing before the game? That should have been the Suns.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes. Which, and B, he righted the wrong tonight.
The Sixers won. They're back.

Speaker 4 They also were back because they were booing Danny Green for missing shots, which when you boo, like Philadelphia, I know that it's such a cliche and really annoying.

Speaker 4 The nature is healing, but Philadelphia booing their own sports players during a playoff game, that truly is like, all right, we're going to be okay.

Speaker 7 Well, that's because Danny Green is a football team fan, right?

Speaker 7 There was that fight that happened outside, so they don't view him. He's not as Philly.
He doesn't represent Philly sports as much as Philly Sports fans represent Philly Sports.

Speaker 4 I think that's going to be a good series, though. I'm excited for, I mean, that felt like a good counter punch from the Sixers, which they needed to do because everyone was freaking out.

Speaker 4 No, they weren't freaking out, but everyone was like, fuck, Trey Young might be really good, including myself.

Speaker 7 So, in theory, I agree with you. I think that it's going to be evenly matched in terms of games won and lost.

Speaker 7 But I feel like this is my series that I'm highlighting for every game will be a blowout, one way or the other.

Speaker 4 Even though, technically the first game wasn't.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they just ran out of time.

Speaker 4 It was a three-point game.

Speaker 7 It felt like

Speaker 7 a four-point game. Yeah, it felt like a blowout.

Speaker 4 You actually know what the craziest part about the first game was? I'm pretty sure every starter on the Sixers was plus in their plus-minus. Every starter on the Hawks was minus in their minus.

Speaker 7 How does that work? Because math lies.

Speaker 4 No, the bench plays. Oh, yeah.
I forgot about those. Yes.

Speaker 4 And the fact that the Sixers made that comeback at the end

Speaker 4 changed everything. I saw that as a tweet.
I didn't actually follow up, so that could be wrong. But it was a tweet.
I'm actually going to look it up right now.

Speaker 7 Hank, I have a question while Big Cat looks that up.

Speaker 7 How do you feel about rooting against the Sixers?

Speaker 7 Basically, taking a shit on the entire city of Philadelphia every single day on part of my take, and also knowing that Bob Kraft was literally sitting courtside tonight.

Speaker 4 well him and michael rubin are good friends as well documented uh so i have no problem with that uh fact check correct bogdanovich was technically a zero but everyone else was a negative and everyone on the sixers was a positive in a in a what was felt like a blowout by the hawks that is a very fun stat that is a weird stat and then obviously everyone on the bench for the hawks was a plus was a positive and everyone on the bench for the sixers was a negative kind of weird huh turns out that joel and bead being healthy makes a pretty big difference oh yeah i really I really do think it's just going to go back and forth with like 10-point victories.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do think the Sixers are going to win that series, but I've been wrong many, many times before. Yeah, 40 points for Mr.
Suckett. I guess Triple H,

Speaker 4 he's out.

Speaker 7 Mr. Suckett.

Speaker 4 He's out.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about the Nets.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 hot takes now are

Speaker 4 Giannis is no more than a 1B.

Speaker 4 He can't ascend to the next level. The Bucs have hit the wall that they've hit every single year.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 tend to believe there's some truth in that, but it's more that the Nets are so much better than we're giving them credit for, and the regular season doesn't really matter because they're just going to nuke everyone.

Speaker 7 So I think that what we're seeing here is just a convenient narrative, and I love narratives.

Speaker 7 So I'm going to say, yes, that the Bucs just can't get it done, even though they're running into a once-in-a-generation team in the Nets. Like,

Speaker 7 that's how narratives work. The Bucs, if they, let's say the Bucs made the Eastern Conference finals this year, and then they got hit with a drone strike and the team was annihilated.

Speaker 7 We'd be like, choked again. Classic Bucs not showing up for the finals.

Speaker 4 I mean, Giannis has to be able to make free throws. Free throws, they're free for a reason, but the Nets are so fucking good.
They're shooting 50% from the field, 44%

Speaker 4 from three, and 91% from free throws.

Speaker 7 And Blake Griffin is officially back.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. So I have something to say about that.
I've heard a lot of slander that Blake dogged it in Detroit.

Speaker 7 There's such a thing as called locational-based allergies. Yep.
So maybe there's some things up in Detroit that disagree with his body.

Speaker 4 How about 2019 when he took that Pistons team to the A seed basically on his own back? Yeah. Do we forget that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, when he was playing on one leg.

Speaker 4 Exactly. Yeah, he had that huge like cast thing.

Speaker 7 Blake actually gave his heart, his soul, and his body, his blood, and his sweat and his piss to Detroit.

Speaker 7 And they just repay him by turning their back on him just because he decided to turn his back on them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't like the slander. Blake is, it is really kind of watching the Nets.
It's crazy that James Harden got hurt and is out, and who knows when he'll be back.

Speaker 4 And then you watch the Nets and you could make, like, if you told me, if you knew nothing about basketball and you watched that game, you're like, and actually, they're missing one of the best players in the NBA.

Speaker 4 Right. It's like, what?

Speaker 4 How is that possible? Like, the Nets, Blake Griffin is an awesome player. He's like total grit and grind, lunch pail guy now.
Big time.

Speaker 4 Ham and eggs.

Speaker 4 I tweeted this on Monday night when I was watching the game, but the part of the Nets that feels like so unfair is the fact that Joe Harris is on the team and they just like Kyrie will cross someone up and then pass it and then they'll pass it and then Joe Harris is just standing wide open and just

Speaker 4 waiting three. Yeah.
Here's a hypothesis. It's so not fair.

Speaker 7 The thought occurred to me yesterday because I was watching the Nets play and I'm like, it does seem unfair at times.

Speaker 7 How many teams do you think that the Nets could beat in a seven-game series if all five of their starters had to score the exact same amount of points?

Speaker 4 How many teams could they beat in a seven-game series if all of them? Yeah, they have to hit it on the head.

Speaker 7 So it's like everyone has to score

Speaker 7 14 points. And James Harden's not injured.
James Harden's not injured, yet. Okay.

Speaker 4 So Joe Harris, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Blake Griffin, I think they could beat almost everyone.

Speaker 7 Really? I mean,

Speaker 7 you think they could hit the nail on the head that well?

Speaker 4 Does the other team know?

Speaker 7 No. No.

Speaker 4 And yes. Okay.
Then I think think they could. They might be killing it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if the other team didn't know that that's what they had to do, I think they could draw plays for anyone and they would score

Speaker 7 whenever they wanted. I don't think they could beat everybody.
I think that they'd probably lose to maybe the Sixers.

Speaker 7 But that's also a maybe. Yeah.
That's how unfair they are. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They're just really fucking good. And Kevin Durant, I...

Speaker 4 It sucks. I really want him to come on the podcast, but he is...
I like him so much now. And it hurts to say, but I really do.

Speaker 4 Because his answer to the reporter, Jake, what did you think about that, by the way? As a Big J journalist, so if you missed it after the game.

Speaker 4 No, no, not the Jay Williams stuff, not the Lana Rhodes stuff, which was also incredible if you missed that.

Speaker 4 It's alleged that Kevin Durant brought a backup date to his date with porn star, former porn star, Lana Rhodes.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but how much faith can you put in what a porn star says on a random podcast?

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 7 Exactly.

Speaker 4 what yes you should hit up lana roads i well listen she's pregnant so she know you know she fucks i'm not hitting up anybody i'm getting my phone's blown up over here yeah are you talking about the tweet this morning no no i'm talking about last night after the game the reporter i don't know who it was said basically like kevin durant two years ago you blew out your achilles in your comeback did you ever think you would be this good and he was like what What was that question?

Speaker 4 Of course I did. So is that what this tweet this morning was about? I don't know what the tweet this morning.
Man's

Speaker 4 no, that was not.

Speaker 7 Wait, wait, no, I want to hear Jake read that tweet, though. It sounds like it was good.

Speaker 4 All right, so let me let me let me tell you what this tweet is about, and then you can read it. But, but first, answer my question: okay, the question:

Speaker 4 the reporter said,

Speaker 4 Did you ever think you'd be this good again?

Speaker 4 Yeah, like, why ask that? Because it's probably as easy as he's going to say, he laughed in his face. He's like,

Speaker 4 Ron just said

Speaker 4 the opposite not a week ago.

Speaker 4 Good point, hey. All right, so you're you're the tweet you're about to read is Jay Williams went on uh, Get Up about the bachelor party or party he was

Speaker 4 at a holiday party, and Kevin Durant went up to him and was like, Don't ever compare me to Giannis.

Speaker 4 Jay Williams has like big-time liar vibes. That's all I'm going to say.
But like, he just, the way he presented it was just very weird.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, that's

Speaker 7 it's a hell of an accusation to toss out, but I agree with it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like when I watched it, I was like, you're not telling the truth.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think there's probably like a little bit of truth in there. Like, he's like, hey, who do you think would win one-on-one, you or Giannis? And he was like, probably me.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And he's like, okay, I know what I'm dropping on. Get up.
Greeny's going to love this.

Speaker 4 Like, Jay Williams should have...

Speaker 4 asked just anyone else before he told that story like hey would you believe if i told you that kevin durant came up to me and like emphatically at a at a christmas party was like don't you ever say that i'm giannis right i don't think he's walking around with that sort of chip on her shoulder he might tweet it right but he's not gonna like stake you out in real life so so this is what kevin durant's response was mans will do anything to advance their careers in this media SHIT, wanting to be accepted by an industry that will dispose of you whenever they please.

Speaker 4 Keep me out all that corny ASS talk about who's better in legacy and all that dumb ASS SHIT. I don't even talk like that.
Okay. I like it.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, Kevin Durant, that's like 99% of what we do is just like, if somebody's really, really good in the NBA, the first thing that we have to do is be like, well, he's not the best of all time.

Speaker 7 So how much can I really enjoy this?

Speaker 4 Right, exactly. Like, Giannis has won two MVPs.
Fraud.

Speaker 4 He is an unbelievable talent, such a joy to watch, but he is really just a robin at best.

Speaker 7 Yeah, well, he can't beat the best teams of all time by himself.

Speaker 4 Right. So I,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, it was, I just love the Kevin Durant. Like, I think it's because the burner came out and he kind of accepted it, but he's just forever online.

Speaker 7 It really is. I also think he's the most regular superstar of all time in the NBA.
Yes. He's as close as you can get to normal.

Speaker 7 He's just like a regular dude, and he thinks like a regular person would, realizes this absurd situation that he's in, where hundreds of millions of people have opinions about him who he will never meet in his life.

Speaker 4 And he's better at basketball than all of them.

Speaker 7 And he's managing it pretty honestly. Right.

Speaker 7 He's like, in his weakest moments, sometimes he'll forget that they're just mad at their own lives, but then he remembers and he's like, oh yeah, that's right. This guy thinks that he sucks.

Speaker 7 So instead of telling himself that he sucks, he tells me that I suck.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm rooting for the Nets because of Blake, but I also think that that's probably our best chance. He is also bald.

Speaker 4 I mean, I said it on Monday show. He's way more bald in person.

Speaker 4 Kevin Durant, I think, would come on this podcast with Blake after they won a championship. Okay.
I really do. I think that that would be the time.
I mean,

Speaker 4 I've asked him a million times.

Speaker 4 via DM because he started a conversation with me two years ago by just replying to one of my Instagram stories at playing pickup hoops saying your game is trash out of the blue.

Speaker 4 And that's Kevin Duritt. Like, he is just always online.
I love that about him now. It's something has happened.
It's flipped. Maybe Leaving the Warriors did it.

Speaker 7 Do you think that he's going to go on Dax's podcast first? What? He's going to go on Dax's podcast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it's just because he's negging you. Yeah, he probably does just love the negative.

Speaker 7 He's been on one of your podcasts before.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but like he went on your fucking podcast, bro.

Speaker 7 Snakes.

Speaker 4 We need him on part of my take. We all need him on part of my take.
I've been said also pre-COVID. And at the time, he was going to come on, and then COVID happened.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I also was like, I'm saving all the part of my take stuff for a part of my take. You opened it up with that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was like, oh, we got a lot of stuff to talk about that we're not going to talk about. So we still have that.

Speaker 4 All right. So, yeah, the Nets are unstoppable.
I don't know. Like, I feel like...

Speaker 4 And of course, it's only been two games, and who the fuck knows? But I feel like we're going to be in a month, the conversation is going to be like, are the Nets one of the greatest teams of all time?

Speaker 7 I think we need to have that. We need to pre-have that conversation.
You know know why, Big Cat?

Speaker 4 One sweep and that'll start happening.

Speaker 7 So that if it goes like seven games in the finals, then we can say that they're disappointing. Yeah.
It's actually not that impressive of finals.

Speaker 4 I feel it though. It's coming.
And

Speaker 4 listen, if they keep playing the way they have in these first two games, they deserve it because it really is like they just fucking jump on you. I mean, that's that game one.

Speaker 4 It is very reminiscent of the Warriors. The game one,

Speaker 4 there was a moment in the third quarter where the Nets were up six. Giannis was at the free throw line.

Speaker 4 He missed both free throws, and like two seconds later, they had thrown the ball down court, and Kyrie Irving hit a three, and they were up nine, and that was the game.

Speaker 7 I predict this conversation will happen very quickly. Would these Nets beat those Warriors with Kevin Durant playing on both teams?

Speaker 4 Who wins? I like it. I like it.

Speaker 7 I think the Warriors win.

Speaker 4 These Nets versus those Warriors with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Can we make Blake... No, you know what? Blake is actually, I think, his best form ever right now.

Speaker 7 Well, he's dealt with teammates that have hit you in the balls before, so Traymont Green wouldn't be anything.

Speaker 4 He knows how to deal with that. It depends on which Kevin Durant would be more pissed off.

Speaker 7 I think this Kevin Durant might be more pissed off.

Speaker 4 Well, would it be the first

Speaker 4 time?

Speaker 7 First, Kevin Durant wasn't pissed off yet. He was still living the burner life without acknowledging.
He was still in the closet as a burner.

Speaker 4 But I think he was pissed off because everyone hated his move and he was like, fuck everyone. I'm going to be the best player on the Warriors.

Speaker 7 I don't know that he was pissed off, though. I think he was sad Durant.

Speaker 4 All right, Kevin Durant, please let us know what you think about this hypothetical. Those Warriors against these Nets, Kevin Durant, on both of them.

Speaker 7 This is very important.

Speaker 4 Yes, so let us know what you think. Legacy talk.

Speaker 4 All right, before we talk some other stuff,

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No, is it?

Speaker 7 It was like a moo, I think. Shh.

Speaker 7 Because you didn't know what to do, so I think you just went with a cow.

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Speaker 4 Okay, other stuff. We gotta talk.
Let's talk a little hockey. Hank,

Speaker 4 Bruins.

Speaker 4 Tuca's really hurt. Refs kind of fucked us over.
I don't know. Tuca's really hurt, banged up.
The refs. I don't even know if he's going to go for game six.
What was the score of the game?

Speaker 4 I think it was 5-3. Yeah, Refs.
Refs. 5-4.
Yeah. 5-4.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, I mean, there was a clear, there was a missed penalty, which the Islander scored right after. And the first penalty that the Bruins got called was for slashing.
It just wasn't a penalty.

Speaker 4 And the Islander scored. So

Speaker 4 I would say that penalties, you you know obviously tuca that's the thing where it's one of those things where tuca let in four goals and 13 shots so yes very very bad what's the rest were also bad they can both exist both can be true i like that hank what's the um what's the line going to be about tuca

Speaker 4 after this because isn't he kind of like a love-hate relationship There's always been, I mean, that's like Boston sports media.

Speaker 4 There's always been kind of a lot of shit talked about him because he's never won a cup because in Boston, that's all that matters. But he is a world-class goalie.
I think he is really injured.

Speaker 4 That's what my surprise is. What's his injury? I don't know.
Hockey injury? Lower body body.

Speaker 4 You say lower or upper?

Speaker 7 Or both? I think it's lower. I actually do think that he's injured because he was hot in the first series.
And now you're running into hot last night. Varley was standing on his head.

Speaker 7 There was some headstanding going on. Big time.

Speaker 4 Even four goals?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You could still do that.

Speaker 7 But I mean, like, you know, some of those are garbage time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was 5-3, and then they let up another goal because they were just trying really hard. I think the Bruins outshot him by like 30, which is the worst thing in the world in playoff hockey.

Speaker 7 So on the poop meter, where are we at? Panic button. High.

Speaker 4 Red. Real high? Code red.

Speaker 4 I think what you need to do, I was talking to our good friend John Feidelberg in the kitchen today, and he said

Speaker 4 the spin zone, he still thinks the Bruins can win, but the spin zone is with the injuries they have that they would get pumped by the lightning anyway. So there you go.

Speaker 4 And the lightning

Speaker 4 have advanced. I don't pretend to know a lot about hockey.
Whitney is usually the guy I listen to for those things.

Speaker 4 Once he said, whoever wins a series is getting pumped by the lightning, I already was like, all right, does it really matter that much? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, because it's also, it's very public that the Borrellis, you know, it's the

Speaker 4 large contention

Speaker 4 for all those fans here.

Speaker 7 You don't want Borrelli to get one over on you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's got one over.

Speaker 7 He's going to hold that over you big time.

Speaker 4 He's going to big time get you.

Speaker 4 And then the case.

Speaker 7 Also, you can always say that, like, you weren't even supposed to be here. Right.
Like, no one thought that the Bruins would be in this position. You outperformed what your expectations were.

Speaker 7 I don't think that's you can just say that, though.

Speaker 4 They have a line called the Perfection Line. You can just say that.
Oh, that must be a good line. Yeah.
Best of hockey.

Speaker 4 The Canadiens, which I someone said, there's been a lot of people who have been mad at me for pronouncing it that way, but then a true Habs fan said you need to keep pronouncing it that way because they're on an absolute tear.

Speaker 4 They

Speaker 4 just want to highlight how ridiculous this run is for them.

Speaker 4 I saw a stat, they haven't trailed in 437 minutes straight straight now they were down 3-1 against the leafs less than two weeks ago and now we're sitting here and they're in the conference finals it's a game of runs that's seven games straight that they rattled off they have not trailed again for 437 minutes you think it's gonna be a problem rest versus rust though

Speaker 7 they have some time off i agree I agree.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 That's just a fucking crazy run. Like, if you're a Habs fan, you've got to just be living it up.
Although you can't because I think you got to stay inside. Yeah, right.
You're living up inside. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Chug wine with the fellas.

Speaker 4 Couch surfing.

Speaker 7 I think that Witt is probably, I think he's pretty astute when he says that when you have to go play in front of fans for the first time, it's going to be a shock to the system. Right.

Speaker 7 I'm penciling that in for the away team at that point, whoever that is. My guess is it's going to be the Avalanche.
Are they winning right now?

Speaker 4 It's just tied 2-2.

Speaker 4 up at 11.09 p.m. Okay, yeah.
No big deal.

Speaker 7 But I think he's right about that.

Speaker 7 And by the way, the Ryan Whitney mugshot, his like last year picture that is everywhere on the internet whenever somebody like Googles Ryan Whitney, what an asshole he looks like in that picture.

Speaker 4 He's got that sticky. Did he do that on purpose?

Speaker 7 I think so.

Speaker 4 It's perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like that picture should be next to Dickhead in the dictionary. Yes.
And I love Wit, but I think even he would look at that guy and he'd be like, I want to kick that guy's ass.

Speaker 4 Yes, absolutely. We also got an answer to the recurring guest question.
Number one overall all time is Blake Bortles. The boat.
All right, the boat. Also, And then who is two?

Speaker 7 Two.

Speaker 4 Whitney was four, was tied for third. Is it Mr.
Portnoy? I think so. Mr.
Portnoy is coming on on Friday. We're bringing him back.
We're very excited. Updated or was this going off the old?

Speaker 4 No, PMT stats and info. Shout out that.
Bortles, Portnoy,

Speaker 4 Whitney, Titus, Chris Long, top five. Wow.

Speaker 7 It's quite amount rushing.

Speaker 4 And I heard a certain

Speaker 4 meathead friend of ours fell out of the top ten.

Speaker 7 So we're going to have to rectify that soon.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yeah.
Along with Stingray Steve.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're talking about Stingray Steve. Yeah, get it back on.
No, we're going to have Rosillo.

Speaker 4 I felt bad about that. He's in top 10.

Speaker 7 Stingray Steve put up some numbers in a short time. Dude, remember, like, those are David Boston-type numbers.
He's here for like two seasons and then

Speaker 4 sued us. Barstool, not us.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the Hindenburg announcement. Did he ever do the JFK assassination?

Speaker 4 I don't know. The Hindenburg funny.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Can you put that in?

Speaker 4 Can you put that in right here? Put that in right here.

Speaker 7 Here's Stingray Steve narrating the explosion of the Hindenburg.

Speaker 9 We are back in 1937 as we're about to see the Hindenburg go down. Oh, no, the Hindenburg's caught fire.
Oh, no, the Hindenburg's caught fire. Oh, the humanity.
Oh, it's awful. It just

Speaker 9 caught fire right here, and it's gone down. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 That's for all the people who have maybe are new to the show who don't remember that. All-time moments.

Speaker 7 We used to have him on Monday shows narrating whatever the biggest SEC highlighter was. But then we'd toss in a historical event that he could also narrate for the people.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes. Oh, my God.
Look at all that he made.

Speaker 4 All right. Let's talk some other important news.
Maybe the most important news of the day.

Speaker 4 Aaron Rodgers, in his 16-year-year career, has always shown up for minicamp until today.

Speaker 7 What happened today?

Speaker 4 He found happiness and love. And I, for one, am excited for Aaron Rodgers.
And I just want him to find peace mental health isn't June mental health awareness month yeah

Speaker 7 well that worked out perfectly didn't it yeah it certainly did I actually so there was

Speaker 7 ownership released a statement today about Aaron Rodgers because he didn't show up for the first time ever they said we're going to compete with who we have here we're very content to move forward this season with Jordan and Blake as our quarterbacks

Speaker 7 that was me that said that as ownership yes but ownership did say that and I have a I have a prediction big cat oh I'm in the prediction business okay I think that Blake Bortles could be the starting quarterback of the Green Bay Packers this year.

Speaker 4 I do, too, because everything that has been tweeted, Jordan Love sucks.

Speaker 7 It doesn't look good for him right now. And they might, right now, Jordan Love, it seems like he's more valuable to the Packers as an asset.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 As a guy, to use an NBA term, as a guy that they can trade for other pretend things that could become players eventually. Yes.

Speaker 7 If he's skying balls over receivers seven yards away from him, they might try to protect him, start Blake Bortles, who will harness the power of Lake Superior and just go on a fucking tear.

Speaker 7 Any lake that Blake is on is Superior. I know it's Lake Michigan.
But if Blake's there, it's Blake Superior. He's going to fucking, he's going to start this year.

Speaker 4 So I have an update on our friendship.

Speaker 4 Someone tweeted us a clip. Old clip from I think it was the Atlanta Super Bowl.
We had Blake in the back of a van. I think that was the Dan Marino van.
The famous Dan Marino van. One of 26.
One of 26.

Speaker 4 Oh, appearances, yes. And I said that if you are on the Packers, we can't be friends anymore.
And I sent him that clip.

Speaker 4 And he said, I have to play in a game against the Bears, regular season game against the Bears, before our friendship is over. And I agreed.
So that will be, that's the update.

Speaker 4 And I will do the meme, friendship over.

Speaker 4 Now friends with, I don't know who else.

Speaker 7 Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 Yeah, sure. Yes.

Speaker 7 Best friends. I think, I mean,

Speaker 7 I root first and foremost for your mental health, big cat.

Speaker 4 No. For you to be happy.
No, it's true. It's handsome.
It's very true.

Speaker 4 I want nothing.

Speaker 7 I want nothing more in this life than to just have a content cat sitting next to me. And I have to put that aside because Blake Bortles is a friend.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And Blake Bortles, he only has a short time where he can be a success in his chosen field, which is one of the best. You can do this until you die.

Speaker 7 Hopefully that's a long time in the future. But Blake Bortles has, you know, five, 10, 15 years max more

Speaker 7 to make his money. 30.
I have to root for a success. If he beats the Bears in a primetime game this year, that can mean like five years, $45 million in his pocket.

Speaker 4 And so many t-shirts sold for us. So many t-shirts for us.

Speaker 7 So I might have to do a split jersey. I might have to get half my Blake Bortles faces shirt and half Big Cat Face's shirt.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I don't want to think about it. Let's not think about it.
Let's think about something better.

Speaker 4 Will Arch Manning surpass Peyton, Eli, and Archie? Oh no, did I steal your Hotsi Cool drone?

Speaker 4 I thought you were going to. That was a great ad transition opportunity.

Speaker 7 That ball flip was sick, though, wasn't it? When he did the pump fake, and then he

Speaker 7 was a little bit more.

Speaker 7 I think he's already the best Manning to ever play football.

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Speaker 4 Hot seat cool thrown Hank.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Peyton Manning. What?

Speaker 4 Shut up. What happened? Yeah.
He ran out of chicken parm. Nope.
Nope.

Speaker 7 Today, Pratt Paisley stabbed him.

Speaker 4 First, Hake was doing a segment. Oh, no, it's coming up.
This was coming up. The screenshot said, coming up, will Arch Manning surpass Peyton, Eli, and Archie to become the greatest Manning yet?

Speaker 4 This is all based off a practice clip of him throwing, like, and doing a crazy ball flip and throwing a nice ball.

Speaker 4 It was more than a nice ball. Well, it was Jake Fromm 2.0.
I already, the ball has already happened to me on this show. It was better than Jake From.
No, it was. Jake Fromms was in a game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jake Fromms was in the game. And he did it like Jake From like five times.
He did it in the national championship. Yeah.
Yeah. This was

Speaker 4 that poisoned my brain for I thought he was going to be like the Bills, you know, I thought he was going to be competing with Josh Allen. You had that thought.

Speaker 4 I said it, I think, I think I said it on the rundown that I would take Jake Fromm number one right then after the national championship game just because of the ball flip.

Speaker 4 Right, so now this is Arch, this is Jake From 2.0, Arch Manning, painting wings on the hot seat. He's got a little bit more of a pedigree.

Speaker 7 No, I like the take, though. I like that we're already having the flip flip flip.

Speaker 4 But the only reason the conversation is happening is because of the ball flip. Yes, yes.

Speaker 7 If he hadn't done the ball flip and done the exact same pump, fake, and throw.

Speaker 4 It was a dime, though.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was in Wigalele.

Speaker 4 And he's like 12 years old. Uyunga Lele.
Uyeunga Lele. His brother's the Clemson Corps.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I know it's the younger brother. I just didn't know how to say it.

Speaker 4 And his dad's a beast. Yeah, his dad is a big zigga-bouncer, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 I'm all in on Arch Manning hype. I'm excited to just be.
I'm feeling bad for him. I do.

Speaker 4 That's impossible expectations. I think teams should start.

Speaker 7 Teams should start tanking right now for Arch Manning. You need to have your shit together.
You need to just be absolutely dog shit in the NFL for the next three years.

Speaker 4 16, 17? More than that.

Speaker 7 Five years?

Speaker 4 How old is he? I think he's going to be going into his junior year of high school. So that's five.

Speaker 7 Which time? Five to 2023. 2023.

Speaker 4 So that means two more years till college, which is probably around 16.

Speaker 4 So are we in the trust tree? Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's 16?

Speaker 7 Or 17.

Speaker 4 Had you our best?

Speaker 4 I may have requested to follow him on Instagram. Wow.
Oh, wow. He has not accepted the request.

Speaker 4 I don't think he will accept the request. But I had to take the shit.
How many followers does he have? Like a thousand? Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, big cat.
Yeah. That's ruining.

Speaker 4 Dude, I wanted to be one of the first 2,000.

Speaker 7 You are the guy that tweets at Recruits right now.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it's different when it's Arch Manning.

Speaker 7 What do you think, like, what team right now do you think is in the best position to draft Arch Manning?

Speaker 4 Wait, say it again?

Speaker 7 What team do you think right now is in the best position to draft Arch Manning, let's say, eight years from now?

Speaker 4 I'd say the Jets always.

Speaker 7 Jets are in pros. I think that they're the leaders of the world.

Speaker 4 Bears always.

Speaker 4 Bears and Jets.

Speaker 7 I think the Panthers could be.

Speaker 4 The Bucs will probably be there by then. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 a, yeah,

Speaker 4 they're in the win now mode. How about Tom? Was you.

Speaker 4 Tom Brady could be playing.

Speaker 4 No. Five years.
It's crazy to say, but Tom Brady could be playing against. Like, could you imagine the Monday Night Football ratings? Tom Brady versus Arch Manning.
Actually,

Speaker 4 Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 7 It could be the Texans. The Texans might not even be a team.
Are they playing a season this year?

Speaker 4 I have no idea. I don't know.

Speaker 7 Hank just reminded me, or Jake reminded me they signed Mark Ingram. Didn't know that.
Jesus.

Speaker 4 They signed like three or four running backs.

Speaker 7 They're probably just not going to play football for five years. They'll come back as another expansion franchise and draft Arch Manning.

Speaker 4 They should just become the Oilers. Yes.
That would be the greatest move they ever pulled. Yeah.
Like, hey, remember all the things that are happening? Oilers.

Speaker 7 They'd sell tickets this year.

Speaker 4 And those powder blues. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That might not be. I think that's sky blue.

Speaker 7 It's not powder. It's sky blue.
Is it sky blue?

Speaker 4 I think it's sky blue.

Speaker 4 You got to. I believe.
Can we get a Sepantone, please? So, which

Speaker 4 jerseys?

Speaker 4 The The Oilers. Ever heard of them?

Speaker 4 Don't remember watching. We have Wade Phillips on the show.
I think it's like

Speaker 4 Titans Blue, right? Titans Blue.

Speaker 7 They took the colors, I think.

Speaker 4 I did. Got it.
A shade. Light blue.
PMS 279, 418 FDE. Is it the same as Titans? I think it's a

Speaker 4 Touch Scotia Lighter.

Speaker 4 So the Titans. Yeah, no, the Titans are darker.
Titans blue. But what about their nine? What about the other blue? The lighter blue.
That's what's going on. Oh, Titans Blue.

Speaker 4 There's Titans Navy and Titans Blue. They made their own color.
Yeah. That's Power Movie.
Kind of like UNC.

Speaker 4 It's a big thing. Carolina Blue.
But I thought that was just the sky in Carolina. I don't know.
All right, you're a cool throne?

Speaker 4 I'm a cool throne's college baseball.

Speaker 4 The fans.

Speaker 4 It's been a great. It's been an amazing spring of all the sports having fans.
Well, can you thank you, Mincy? Thank you, Mincey, of course. I was going to say...
He invented college baseball.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah,

Speaker 4 he is the reason I started watching it

Speaker 4 spring, and he was right.

Speaker 4 But what I was going to say is that I think the college baseball fans have been the craziest of all the fans I've seen so far, or at least it just feels, I think it's just because it's so tight, it's probably a smaller crowd, more packed in.

Speaker 4 But like the walk-off home run in Tennessee the other night was crazy, the Arkansas home run last night was crazy, insane.

Speaker 4 It's great, great atmosphere, good to turn on, and just like you feel the intensity of a positive environment, too. I'm excited for this weekend.
The ball off a metal ping.

Speaker 4 I'm excited for this weekend.

Speaker 4 I think it's the regional finals.

Speaker 4 Omaha regional. Super regional regional finals.
No, not Omaha yet. So it's eight, two out of three series.
The eight winners go to Omaha. Yes.

Speaker 7 Is that like Super Wild Card weekend?

Speaker 4 Kind of. It's actually like I finally looked up the bracket because I mean Wisconsin didn't have a baseball team.

Speaker 4 College baseball is just one of those sports like either you're really into it or you kind of see it passing and you know I've watched when Vandy won the College World Series, but I looked at it and it's such a cool tournament.

Speaker 4 The fact that they play like there's four teams in each pod pod, and then they, you know, the losers go to one game, the winners keep going. It's fucking awesome.
I'm in. Thank you, Mincy.

Speaker 7 Is that it, Hank?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's it. All set?

Speaker 7 Didn't he? Your other ones got taken?

Speaker 4 Not really. F1's on my cool throne, too, in general, in life, but just watching it? Yeah, I just, I

Speaker 4 had him on the show, and then I binged the show since then. I finished it, and I've like had a void in my life.
Fiending, I think we need to start racing. Yeah.
No, seriously.

Speaker 7 I agree.

Speaker 7 Like actual cars? No.

Speaker 4 Video games, bro. Okay.
Meet me. Come on.

Speaker 7 Get one of the simulators? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We had one. We do have.
We have one. It's not here.
Oh, it's not? Nope. What happened to it? Dude, when I was watching F1, the first thing I did was text Spider and was like, where's the simulator?

Speaker 7 I think it's in his house. Damn.
My hot seat is the Earth. The entire Earth is on the hot seat.
Because you see, Jeff Bezos is going to outer space. Yeah.
With his brother. Yeah.

Speaker 7 The ultimate bros divorce party. I love it.

Speaker 7 We're just going to go for a road trip where uh the stars yeah hang out together uh i think the earth's actually on the hot seat for all that because it's just it's bad news whenever the richest person on earth decides to leave for a little bit like because he could actually destroy or shut down most of the earth what better there will never be a better time for jeff bezos to disable all of his companies that we depend on for everything than when he's in outer space with his brother pissed off at his ex-wife that's true it's an issue so i have i have a solution in case the earth doesn't come back, or in case he leaves the earth, shuts us down, and he comes back afterwards.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but if he leaves the earth, isn't that like international waters? You can just steal his money? Well, he's got a lot of it. Did you see that story? He's not paying taxes?

Speaker 4 Almost made me put a rose in my avatar. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think we should eat Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 4 Yes. Would you rather be

Speaker 4 Jeff Bezos or have $50 million in bank account today?

Speaker 7 $50 million.

Speaker 4 I don't want to be fucking dork. He's bald.
Yeah, and he's also got the whole world hates him. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 4 I do think

Speaker 4 I know he doesn't have the price. No, I know, I know.
And I don't, I know.

Speaker 4 It is very funny when the Rose Avatar people like tweet, like, give all your money away. Like, he doesn't have cash, like, billions of dollars.
He gets all the stock and everything that he owns.

Speaker 4 It's not, he's not, if he, if he liquidated everything, it would actually crash the whole world. Yeah, he can't do that.

Speaker 7 But he also has access to get like a loan for whatever he wants at any given time. So he does have have kind of access

Speaker 4 almost unlimited money.

Speaker 4 Well, anyone would, but my point is, why doesn't Jeff, like, if I saw that article from Jeff being like, Jeff Bezos doesn't, Bezos doesn't pay taxes, I'd just be like, you know what?

Speaker 4 Shut the fuck up, everyone. Just write a check for Billy to Uncle Sam.
Be like, you guys, shut up.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so I think, here's an idea. Jeff Bezos, when he comes back, I think we all hate him, right? Everybody

Speaker 4 more apathetic. I don't really care.
I sick about him.

Speaker 7 I kind of hate him. When he comes back, what we should do is just pretend like we don't know who he is.

Speaker 4 Because he didn't buy the football team. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But he could buy the Bears.

Speaker 7 How great of a prank would that be on him, though? He comes back to Earth, and everybody just agrees we're going to pretend like we don't know who Jeff Bezos is. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And he'll think that whatever happened to him in outer space fucked with his brain and, like, I don't know, like, found a wormhole. He comes back, no one knows who he is.
He'd probably be happier.

Speaker 4 You know, doing him a favor. You know, one of them bootlickers would probably fucking tell him what the gig is up, you know?

Speaker 7 That's That's true.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I actually don't really have a strong opinion. I think he's just a dork who's got a shitload of money.

Speaker 7 He probably should pay his taxes. I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is Australia. Australia's on the cool throne.
Did you see the video that I put up earlier today of the kid at the cricket match?

Speaker 4 Eating the watermelon?

Speaker 7 This is one of my favorite videos I think I've ever seen on the internet. So this kid goes to a cricket match in Melbourne.

Speaker 7 It's this kid at a cricket match in Australia. He brings an entire watermelon with him, and he starts eating it.
Like, he bites through the rind, and he eats the entire watermelon by himself.

Speaker 7 And when I say entire, I mean like the green, the white part, everything, everything about the watermelon he eats.

Speaker 7 And it's a huge dub for Australia because I feel like Australia's lost some of that, like, we don't give a fuck aura about them.

Speaker 7 It's been largely swagger jacked by Russia and to a certain extent, Florida recently, where all the crazy stories are coming out of these other places and they used to come out of Australia.

Speaker 7 This put Australia back on the map as like the weirdest people on the planet. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, I mean, it was an unbelievable video. It was absolutely incredible.
Eating the rind.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I was told, my grandmother told me that it was poisonous to eat the rind growing up.

Speaker 4 Did you guys eat the hell out of me? I always thought that if you ate the watermelon seeds, you'd grow a watermelon in your stomach.

Speaker 7 That part's true. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then the gum thing, too, but Hank dispelled that because he swallowed every piece of gum he's ever chewed his entire life. Just a reminder for everyone out there, we should bring that up.

Speaker 4 Set a reminder, Jake, for three months from now. Just to remind everyone that anytime Hank has chewed a piece of gum, he has swallowed said piece of gum.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And it's kind of I bought like a shitload of gum.

Speaker 4 Where's gum? Candy section.

Speaker 4 Well, I bought a shitload of gum.

Speaker 7 That's not always true, Hank. Yeah, it is.
Not always in the candy section.

Speaker 4 Pretty much. I bought a shitload of gum.

Speaker 4 If you couldn't swallow it, they put it in the tobacco section. How about that?

Speaker 7 I sometimes swallow dip spit.

Speaker 4 I bought a shitload of gum last, like two months ago. Hank

Speaker 4 ate every single piece. You said, help yourself.
And you helped yourself. You told me to.
I know. But I forgot you ate it.
I wouldn't have said that because that's bad for you.

Speaker 7 Next bet we do should be like Hank has, if Hank loses, he has to survive on just eating gum for two days.

Speaker 4 He could do it. Easily.
Easily.

Speaker 7 How many calories do you think? Are there actually like nutritional, is there nutritional value in gum?

Speaker 4 Probably not.

Speaker 4 It's like 10 calories.

Speaker 7 Just get some calories, some sugar. You can survive a couple days at least, yeah.

Speaker 4 You can definitely do it. Speaking of future reminders, I'm looking at my calendar.
We got something up coming up in three weeks that you told me to do a while ago. What is it?

Speaker 4 Make video.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. What did we say that? Make video of Big Cat and PFT sucking their own dicks.

Speaker 4 I don't remember the context.

Speaker 7 I don't think that that's something we said that we would do.

Speaker 4 You told me to put it in.

Speaker 7 I think I would remember that.

Speaker 4 I'm sure someone will listen and

Speaker 4 because it's 6'9. No, no, it's for three weeks.
It's in three weeks. Oh, I was looking at that.
Yeah, that doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 7 I don't know. I was like, oh, yeah, the the date.
That means that I'll give myself that.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 That wouldn't even be 69. Would that be like

Speaker 7 zero?

Speaker 4 Or it's actually kind of a nine. It's

Speaker 7 the snake eating its own tail.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We'll see. Yeah, someone let us know what that is.
All right, my hot seat is the doubters because LeBron James had his corny Instagram post that we all were waiting for.

Speaker 4 It was a scene from the gladiator, which what came out 25 years ago. It won an award.
It won an award. He wrote, promise you I will.

Speaker 4 Count me out if you want to. The man in the arena, the kid from Akron.

Speaker 7 I like that he put the man in the arena on

Speaker 7 an all-time speech. If you're just trying to deflect any sort of criticism, be like, I'm the person that risks it all.
I'm the guy that's going up against the goon squad, not you.

Speaker 4 Yes. So,

Speaker 4 well, let's just do a quick straw poll. Are you counting him out?

Speaker 4 No. Yes.

Speaker 4 You counting LeBron out

Speaker 4 no no are we talking about past lebron or are you counting him out not yet

Speaker 7 as a robin not as a batman

Speaker 4 i want to count him out yeah i'm gonna do it you'll regret that i'm gonna count him out you'll you'll rue that day promise promise you i will what i

Speaker 4 i'll admit something big cat yeah

Speaker 4 you miss him

Speaker 4 Yes. No, not that.
I don't miss him. I'm happy he's eliminated.
But he, I've been seeing so much slander on LeBron's name.

Speaker 4 I had a moment earlier where I felt a little bad. I was like, he's getting crushed.
Because people were talking about MVP, and it was like, LeBron should have had five MVPs or whatever.

Speaker 4 And everyone was just like, just destroying him. His shoes suck.
Yeah, shoes suck. He doesn't show up in the regular season.
He can't win in the blast. And I was like, you're doing it.

Speaker 4 I kind of feel bad.

Speaker 7 You've been incepted into defending him.

Speaker 4 That's incredible. I just think

Speaker 4 it was a moment of, I guess, I don't know. Weakness.
Fragility, yeah. Yeah, real weakness.

Speaker 7 Are you going to become a LeBron stanza? Absolutely not. This is how it started for me.

Speaker 4 If Bronny goes to Duke, though, all bets are off.

Speaker 4 And he owns the Red Sox.

Speaker 7 This is a gateway drug.

Speaker 7 You are like one year away from becoming a LeBron stanza. I'm just mature, I guess.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Unbelievable.

Speaker 7 You had a pre-woke period about LeBron. Unbelievable.
You got a lot of tweets you're going to have to clean up.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Wow.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 It'd be great if you wrote like a whole thing. Like, I thought one way.

Speaker 4 Well, I don't. I don't.
I agree. That's the thing.
You just felt bad. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I've changed the way I think I've matured.

Speaker 4 I was like, it's going to suck to be LeBron and just get like your season's over and you're just getting like your whole entire career destroyed.

Speaker 7 And all he's ever done is validated. He tried to be a great player and a great role model and a great father.

Speaker 4 If Space Jam 2 is really bad, it's going to be a long summer. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I hope for your sake that it's awesome because actually

Speaker 4 the villain is trying to steal his Instagram followers and that's like the main plot of the movie.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 7 That seems like you fell for an onion tweet.

Speaker 4 I think so too, but also

Speaker 4 double. I was like, I don't know.
It sounds so ridiculous. It just might be true.
When does it come out? July.

Speaker 7 We got to go.

Speaker 4 We all got to go to the movie theater.

Speaker 7 That should be a special podcast.

Speaker 4 We'll do a review. July 16th.
July 16th. What day of the week is that? Believe Friday.
Oh, come on, LeBron. The movies come out on Friday? We'll go Thursday.
We'll fucking dedicate it.

Speaker 4 We'll go Thursday night. We'll go late Thursday night, and we'll do a, you know what we should do?

Speaker 7 We should live podcast during the movie that'll be nice

Speaker 4 all right my cool throne is uh skip bailis i don't know how we missed this on sunday uh so it's kind of hot seat us but skip bayless if you think that he's like over the hill if you think he's expired you're so wrong did you see this tweet on sunday i i'm shocked i'm sure i did i see every skip

Speaker 4 he said i was wrong about being wrong about the clippers yeah in a shock to me i was ultimately right yeah we never talked talked about it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
Like Skip Bayless, his only crime was being so right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, now they have a very good shot at winning it all, as I originally predicted. Yeah.
I was wrong about being wrong about the Clippers. In a shock to me, I was ultimately right.

Speaker 7 Well, no, he was right because he was saying that the Clippers are going to go further than the Lakers.

Speaker 7 And he probably only made that take so that he could say that the Clippers are better than LeBron. But nonetheless, he did predict that.
And then once they fell behind, he reversed his take.

Speaker 4 Unbelievable.

Speaker 7 And then it's well known that if you reverse a take, you can always revert back to your first take that you had because that's your initial one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 All right, Jake, you got a quick hot seat cool thrown? Yeah, quickly. Hot seat is running the bases.

Speaker 4 Player on the Pirates. Hit a home run to Brian Hayes.
Missed first base. They called him out.

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Speaker 4 They lost 5-3. Oh, Oh, wow.
That literally won the Pirates. Oh my God.

Speaker 7 I love it. Thank you.

Speaker 4 I love the Pirates. Bet responsibly.

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Speaker 4 And then a cool throw, Nick Saban, extension, not going anywhere. Everyone else is screwed.
Yep. Yeah, we already knew that.

Speaker 7 Unless

Speaker 4 Dazzle. Oh, Derek Cole.
Yeah, you're a Yankees fan. What do you mean? Oh, no,

Speaker 4 we're doing that on a segment. Yeah, I forgot.

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Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Coach Wade Phillips, Hall of Fame football guy, future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 I'll just throw that out there because you can't tell the story of football without Wade Phillips.

Speaker 4 He also has a podcast called the Overtime Podcast with his son, Wes Phillips, who's a coach for the Rams. Comes out every

Speaker 4 Thursday. You can find it everywhere.
You get podcasts. Coach,

Speaker 4 very excited to have you on.

Speaker 4 I read a story that you don't like being called coach. You like just being called Wade.
Is that true? Well, yeah, with the players, you know,

Speaker 4 I always kind of make a joke with them, but,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 with the players, they call everybody coach, you know. Well, I want it to be a little more personal than that.
And so

Speaker 4 I want them to call me coach because that's respect.

Speaker 4 you know, my name, I want them to call me my name because it's more personal.

Speaker 4 So most uh most all the players i've coached call me coach wade yeah and and if you if if someone called you a player called you coach you just respond and call them player right right because uh you know i wanted to make the emphasis that you know it's kind of my little joke but but uh you know they'd say hey coach i say hey player you know so uh after that they call me hey coach wade so i you know i'd call them hey I didn't call him player Jim.

Speaker 4 I just called him Jim or whoever. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 7 I want to get this out of the way right up front because it occurred to to me today that I'm not sure if you're officially retired or not. And I hope that the answer is no.

Speaker 7 I hope that you're not retired because I think that football is a better place when Coach Wade is still around.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 are you officially retired? Are you looking for a job right now?

Speaker 4 Well, there are no jobs available right now. So I would like to, I think I can help somewhere sometime, but I don't know if, you know, it's not up to me whether I'm retired or not.

Speaker 4 It's up to somebody to hiring me. Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm still available, but

Speaker 4 it's not looking good because I hadn't been in the league for a while.

Speaker 7 I had an idea. I don't know if this would ever work or not, but you always see like the proliferation of really high scoring offenses in college football.

Speaker 7 And I've always wondered, like, if you get a Mississippi State or like a Mike Leach offense where they're scoring, you know, 50 points a game, hopefully,

Speaker 7 and if they just have, you know, an average defense,

Speaker 7 would that be like, would that even be possible given the style of offense that he runs if you were to go back to college and, you know, team up with one of these spread offense guys?

Speaker 4 That's funny because I was talking to Mike Leach before he went to Mississippi State. So,

Speaker 4 but I didn't end up going there. But, but,

Speaker 4 you know, college is so, I mean, it's so much tougher than pro football. It used to be the other way around as far as defense is concerned.
I mean, now.

Speaker 4 Like you say, teams are scoring 40 points and they're getting beat by 20 points. So

Speaker 4 it's a tough league now for defensive coaches. I think I could help colleges, you know, cut down on the scoring some, but I'm really more familiar with pro football.

Speaker 4 So, you know, you've coached for over 40 years in the NFL, and you've seen all the changes in the rules and how the game is played.

Speaker 4 Was there a certain point, a certain rule where you're like, all right, well, now this is becoming almost impossible for us to get consistent stops, even though you continue to do so with your defenses?

Speaker 4 No, I mean,

Speaker 4 rules came in, certainly.

Speaker 4 The rules for safety, certainly,

Speaker 4 you know, that's a good thing that they've been doing for a while. It usually helps the offensive quarterback, but that's okay.
But, you know, I understand that.

Speaker 4 And, you know, not hitting receivers in the head and defenseless receivers and things like that. So I didn't worry about all that.

Speaker 4 You know, the one that hurt the defense probably the most was early.

Speaker 4 not early in my career, but

Speaker 4 when they took away being able to chuck a guy downfield,

Speaker 4 hit a guy downfield only within five yards,

Speaker 4 that took even the Mel Blunts and people like that who were so great, took them out of it because he was so great, he'd knock them down at 10 yards or 15 yards down the field.

Speaker 4 It's an offensive game overall. I mean, they want more scoring, so I understand that.

Speaker 7 And you've coached some of the best names just in the history of the game, some of the best players, especially in terms of pass rushes. You coached Bruce Smith, Reggie White, J.J.

Speaker 7 Watt, Vaughn Miller, Aaron Donald. I'm not going to do the thing where I ask you who the best player is that you have ever coached.
I will. You can do that later.
I'll ask it this way:

Speaker 7 which one of those players would be the maddest at you if you didn't say their name as the best player?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 4 probably all the guys that are alive now, you know, Bruce Smith,

Speaker 4 all of them, you know, but I think they're great because

Speaker 4 they have so much pride in themselves. Some people say ego, but I think, you know, they always, they thought they were the best, but they also played, tried to be better than that all the time.
So,

Speaker 4 and I have said before, Reggie White was

Speaker 4 He had the greatest year that I've ever coached. And in that he had 21 sacks, which was the record for a long time.

Speaker 4 But that was in a 12-game season because we had a strike and we only

Speaker 4 didn't, our record players didn't play the first four games. So in 12 games, he had 21 sacks.
And nobody's, I mean, I don't think anybody's going to ever come close to that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Reggie White's one of those guys that I think history hasn't forgotten, but I think younger fans probably don't realize just how incredible he was.

Speaker 4 Was his, I just remember Reggie White's strength. Like, he would just toss guys.

Speaker 4 Did you, would you marvel at that in practice? Would you have to tell him, hey, like, take it easy in practice because you're going to get someone hurt because you're that much stronger than everyone?

Speaker 4 Reggie wasn't a practice guy now. Okay.

Speaker 4 You had to gear him up a little bit to get him to practice.

Speaker 4 You know, he loved playing the game like all of them, but

Speaker 4 he was, he, he was kind of a joker and kind of having fun in practice. He didn't,

Speaker 4 and you had to get him a little mad, which he didn't, it wasn't his nature really in ballgames.

Speaker 4 But if somebody got him mad in the game, we were all excited because he fixed the run over him, like you say.

Speaker 4 Did you, did you ever like have anything that you could try to get him mad or did it have to be from the other team? You know, Buddy Ryan was good at that too, you know, because I was with Buddy and

Speaker 4 Buddy would, you know, mention to him when he came off the field, boy, that guy's kicking your ear, you know.

Speaker 4 So Reggie, go ahead and prove it the next play. So just things like that with him, you know, because he took everything serious.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, all right, so I'll give an easier question that you can answer without hurting anyone's feelings.

Speaker 4 So, I've read a lot about your coaching style, and the thing that a lot of the players say is that you gave them the freedom to trust their instincts.

Speaker 4 And maybe if it's not exactly the play they should be making, but they can trust their instincts and get to the quarterback, go make it.

Speaker 4 You said, Hey, you have the freedom to make a mistake here, but I know that you have the talent to like, you know, make the play.

Speaker 4 So, who that you coached had the best instincts, Just pure, that guy knew exactly like where things were going in almost like a sixth sense. Yeah, all of them, all of them had that instinct that,

Speaker 4 you know, rushing the passer to go inside or outside to make the right decision, you know, I mean, all of them had that. That's why they were great players and great pass rushes.

Speaker 4 And they all had a great sense of finding the football, you know, where it was on running plays and pass plays.

Speaker 4 But I will say this.

Speaker 4 One of the guys I coached in the last several years was JJ Watt. And we let JJ,

Speaker 4 we let him determine where he was going to go by the formation.

Speaker 4 You know, if it's a certain formation, he would go inside or outside if it's a different formation. And if they motioned and did things like that, he made those adjustments.

Speaker 4 And we kind of played off of him. Normally, you the linebacker plays off the defensive lineman, you know,

Speaker 4 as to where he feels. But we just did the opposite with him.
He's one of the few guys I've ever had that, you know,

Speaker 4 because you're down in a, you know, a three-point stance and it's hard to see down there for one thing, to see what the formation is or the motions and things like that.

Speaker 4 But he realized all that stuff. We utilized that with him.
We just said, hey, you know, they getting this, they're running this, you go this way.

Speaker 4 you know and we'll put you in the middle of it or they're they're in this formation rush the passer we don't care about the run things like that and he's so good at that uh

Speaker 4 but probably the best i've ever been best i've been around about just doing that yeah you know most of them you have a jet tell them you do this job and and they do it and they use their instincts to maybe run around the block and make a play but we we told him in the first place just decipher what the what the uh formation is and and then go play and he he did a great job of that yeah you mentioned your time that you spent philadelphia there with uh with buddy ryan were the ryan boys the ryan twins hanging around practice ever?

Speaker 7 Was somebody in charge of looking after them, making sure they didn't get into too much trouble?

Speaker 4 You needed somebody to look after them, you know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, one,

Speaker 4 they, yeah, I think they were in college, you know, they were younger. They were in college or maybe high, I think, out of high school, but they were.

Speaker 4 I remember one night, Buddy had to go down.

Speaker 4 supposedly beat up a guy in an elevator or something. He had to go train it out

Speaker 4 or messed with a guy anyway. And so, buddy made him.
We were at training camp, so Buddy made him go outside and sit down on a rock out there for a while.

Speaker 7 Which one was the bigger troublemaker, in your opinion? Who was the one getting the other one into trouble? Was it?

Speaker 4 I don't know. Both of them are good at it.
So, yeah, they haven't changed. They're great guys.
Yeah, they are. We've had

Speaker 4 Rob on the show. Yeah, Rob came on the RV.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Great time. And they're a lot like their dad.
They're really smart as far as football is concerned. Yeah.
So speaking of dads, your dad was a legend as well.

Speaker 4 You know, you credit a lot of who you are as a person to your dad, Bum Phillips. What's the, I heard a story.
He borrowed a racehorse one time.

Speaker 4 What's that story?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the,

Speaker 4 you know, when he was coaching in high school, just actually just started coaching. And he'd been in the war, he'd been in the Marines, came back, he got married,

Speaker 4 and then he was he was uh starting to coach and uh he was like the b-team coach so he wasn't making much money uh long story short he wasn't making much money well i my my mom was pregnant with me and so uh

Speaker 4 you know the medical bills were coming up as far as me when when my mom was going to have me well he was working on a ranch in the summer he worked on a ranch down in south texas and uh because he coached you know you didn't make much money uh coaching.

Speaker 4 So he worked on a ranch in the summer. Well, I was born in the summer.

Speaker 4 But on this ranch,

Speaker 4 they were pasturing a horse.

Speaker 4 They pastured several horses. And

Speaker 4 one of them was a racehorse. And it was a quarter horse.
If people are familiar with,

Speaker 4 they're not the,

Speaker 4 they run the quarter horses run a quarter mile. You know, they're the short.
shorter distance race race horses.

Speaker 4 But this horse they were pasturing had just set the world's record in the

Speaker 4 400,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 meter now, but I mean, the 400-yard race. And so he was the fastest quarter horse in the world and set the world record.
Well, they had him pasturing out on this ranch that daddy was working at.

Speaker 4 And so my dad decided

Speaker 4 they had what they call match races over in Louisiana. where you could take your horse over there and race against another horse, you know, and they bet on, you know, but it was,

Speaker 4 you know, it was just guys standing on the sideline, pick, you know, betting against each other. And

Speaker 4 so they said, well, let's just take him over there. And my dad said, you know, I don't have a whole lot of money.
I got, you know, maybe $100,

Speaker 4 but I'm going to bet all my money on the horse because they knew he's going to win. And so they take him over to Louisiana to this match race.
And then

Speaker 4 First of all,

Speaker 4 they didn't want him to know that, you know, this was,

Speaker 4 they're bringing a ringer. right? So, uh, the horse had some markings.

Speaker 4 They did, you know, people that are in the horse business know no markings, but he had a like had a paint on his forehead, you know, and white. And so they did the brown shoe polish on him, you know.

Speaker 4 You know, so nobody recognized the horse somehow. And then they told the jockey, they had a jockey, a guy that was that was riding a horse.
They said, pull him back.

Speaker 4 Don't, you know, we don't want to win by, you know, so much that people think we brought in a ringer, you know. And so, and so they,

Speaker 4 of course, they had the race and boom, they take off and the horse takes off. Obviously, wins easy

Speaker 4 and wins by a long ways. And they were worried about that.
So they had one guy, one guy was running by, picking up the bets and taking the money from the guys on the sideline. He was taking the money.

Speaker 4 And my dad and the other guy ran to the horse. You know, the horse is sweating now.
And so he's starting to lose him.

Speaker 4 So they're putting the blanket over him and they're running him into the trailer. And they got out of Louisiana as quick as they could.
And

Speaker 4 my dad doubled his money and paid for me. So that's amazing.
That's great. That's a great story.

Speaker 7 I feel like everybody should have a story where they have to hightail it out of Louisiana. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just had for those.

Speaker 7 That's a great story. And your dad was like an all-time, just a cool looking guy.
You know, the iconic look of the jacket, the big cowboy hat.

Speaker 7 And I feel like a lot of us when we're growing up and we see our dads, when we're kids, we're like, oh, my dad looks dorky. He looks like a dad.
But your dad had an undeniably cool look about him.

Speaker 7 Did you realize when you were growing up, like, my dad's a cool guy? Or did it take the benefit of hindsight, getting a couple of years away from him to be like, that's a great look that he's got?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think, yeah, both things. You know, I mean,

Speaker 4 he grew up working on a ranch, you know, working on ranches. So he was a real cowboy or a real Western person.

Speaker 4 And he knew all that stuff, but he loved coaching and he loved ranching. So,

Speaker 4 yeah, as I got older, you know, of course, I wasn't, I didn't have the cowboy look, especially during the times I grew up. So,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 getting away from him for a while and then coming back and then coaching with him, you know, he's the only coaching in history, and I'm sure he's the only one that ever will wear a cowboy hat and cowboy boots on the sideline.

Speaker 4 But I thought it was pretty neat because that was him, you know, that was who he wore when I went over to his house. He was wearing the same stuff so uh

Speaker 4 uh but it was neat that he got to do that uh so the i hate to bring up bad memories but the music city miracle you were on the other side we jeff fisher's a friend of ours we've had him explain it from his point of view from your point of view it was that totally a forward forward lateral what was going through your mind when that all went down yeah we had we had an instant replay so i i and i was standing there on the sideline you know right across from where they were making the play where where he was throwing the ball back, throwing the ball forward.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I still thought when they scored, I thought they, you know, they're going to call it back. And it was close after looking at it, you know,

Speaker 4 it was close. But

Speaker 4 if you ever look at the, if you ever look at the film, which it was filmed then,

Speaker 4 you know, he threw it from behind a line and the guy caught it in front of a line. So I don't, I don't see how it couldn't have been forward.

Speaker 4 But it was our mistake, really, that

Speaker 4 we didn't play the play right. We should have kicked it deep and

Speaker 4 covered the field. Or if we were going to kick it short, we should have kicked it more to the sideline where

Speaker 4 they couldn't throw it back like that. So it was still our fault overall.
Yeah. So you have been a head coach, interim or head coach for six different teams.
It's actually the most in NFL history.

Speaker 4 Which do you like more, though? Do you like being a head coach or a defensive coordinator more from like a coaching and life perspective? Well, I mean, you always like being the boss, I guess, but

Speaker 4 I've always said, and I think it's true, you know, I was a better defensive coordinator than I was a head coach. And so

Speaker 4 I think that's been my niche, really, or has been

Speaker 4 when I've coached in the league.

Speaker 4 We didn't have a terrible record. I always say I was a bad head coach, but you weren't.

Speaker 4 I didn't have a terrible head. I had a winning record.
Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 Which is, yeah, which is decent. But the thing I didn't do as a head coach that I got to do as an assistant coach was win a lot of playoff games.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I had a winning record in both areas, but we won a lot of more playoff games. And of course, the Super Bowl

Speaker 4 as an assistant coach.

Speaker 7 Yeah. What about being an interim head coach? Is there something that you liked about stepping into the interim role?

Speaker 7 Because to me, it seems like it's kind of a different, no, it's got a different skill set, right?

Speaker 7 Being an interim guy and then being a full-time head coach, like you got to bring some sort of a spark in.

Speaker 7 You hear about like Dan Campbell, when he was an interim coach, he'd blast Metallica and bury a football at midfield.

Speaker 7 You have to do something to like to turn the page a little bit and get the players ready to go. Was that a challenge for you, stepping into that interim role?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's very hard to do that, I think, to change what you've been doing in the, you know, the whole season, the whole offseason.

Speaker 4 You know, you've lost a lot of games. That's why,

Speaker 4 that's why you become the

Speaker 4 interim head coach.

Speaker 4 So that season is not going well. And then you take over

Speaker 4 with only a few games left.

Speaker 4 Or at least in my case, it was only a few games left every time I did it. So

Speaker 4 it's,

Speaker 4 you just try to get them to play as hard as they can. And yeah, if you could do something where

Speaker 4 maybe it changes their attitude a little bit, but

Speaker 4 it's hard to change what they've been throughout the whole season in a few games. And I think it's tough on the interim coach to do that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you seem like a pretty straightforward guy, too. So that's why I was kind of curious.

Speaker 7 Did you have any like firing up strategies to get the guys going, to get them, you know, ready to turn that page when you stepped in as an interim guy?

Speaker 4 Well, I always told them, hey,

Speaker 4 you just got the last coach fired, and I don't want you to get me fired. So let's get the plan better, you know.

Speaker 7 We're going to get back to Wade in a second, but before we do.

Speaker 6 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 7 Here's more Wade Phillips.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite saying that you would use with your players,

Speaker 4 whether it be like in practice or before a game.

Speaker 4 I have a couple that I wanted to throw at you, but I was wondering what yours was that maybe one that you like leaned on more or you liked more to pump the guys up.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I mean, there's all kinds of sayings, you know, that I think,

Speaker 4 and anything you want to emphasize, that's what you do: you say that saying over and over and over and over with them. And so they, so they know that.

Speaker 4 And,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I had several that I used overall, but the one I always used was

Speaker 4 when we played the game, when we were going to play the game the night before the game, we'd go over everything the night before the game.

Speaker 4 And then the last thing I'd say to them is, hey, the mistakes are mine.

Speaker 4 And what I want them to do is not worry about mistakes. And if they make a mistake, just go ahead and keep playing harder and harder.
And in fact,

Speaker 4 I said that so often.

Speaker 4 We were playing in the Super Bowl with Denver. and

Speaker 4 the night before the game, you know, I gave him a speech and said, hey, you know, we got to play as hard as you can, so forward, so forth. And said, okay, let's go get them.

Speaker 4 And I started to leave the room. And then I hear these voices say, coach, coach, what about the mistakes? And I said, okay, the mistakes are mine.
And they all share.

Speaker 4 I wrote that one down because I love that one. So that was the one I wanted to bring up, but I'm happy you said it.

Speaker 4 The other one that I loved was, you'd say, every winner is just a loser that didn't quit. I think that's a great saying.
It's something you believe in, you know. I mean,

Speaker 4 and again,

Speaker 4 the good thing about coaching

Speaker 4 is you can influence people, you know. I mean, when you talk to them every day and then you talk to them before a game and it's important that they want to try to do well, well, then you get.

Speaker 4 you get to influence them and your way of thinking, so to speak, in a lot of ways, not everything, but certainly in a lot of ways.

Speaker 4 Now, they didn't, I didn't influence them to like country music or anything like that.

Speaker 7 Did you try?

Speaker 4 No, my dad did, but it didn't really work even then.

Speaker 4 He played some and they turned it off.

Speaker 7 You mentioned the Super Bowl 2015, the Panthers, Broncos.

Speaker 7 Did you know going into that game that you had to get a defensive touchdown or you had to create a certain amount of turnovers to win that game? Because Peyton Manning, as great as he was,

Speaker 7 was obviously limited at that point in his career. And you knew that you had to have have a good defensive performance.

Speaker 7 So, I'm curious what your goals were going into that game if you were going to win from a defensive standpoint.

Speaker 4 Well, that was our whole season, really. I mean,

Speaker 4 we went into every game thinking we needed to play really well defensively, not because of the offense, just

Speaker 4 it was our job to play, to win ball games. And,

Speaker 4 you know, and Oswalder played half the season, too. I mean, Payton was hurt half the season.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I've never given a team an out,

Speaker 4 you know.

Speaker 4 And so I've always said, hey,

Speaker 4 to win the game, we have to give up less points than their defense,

Speaker 4 you know, less points than their defense does. So

Speaker 4 if we lost a game,

Speaker 4 it wasn't because our offense didn't play good enough. It's because we didn't play good enough.

Speaker 4 And so that was always my philosophy and always has been, because it's easy to point the finger on the other side because, like you say, Payton didn't have a great year.

Speaker 4 I mean, he led the NFL in interceptions and he only played seven games. So he didn't have a great year, but

Speaker 4 he's a great player and

Speaker 4 he was a big influence on our team and helped win the games that we need to win, certainly. So speaking about that Super Bowl,

Speaker 4 the arrival of Wade Phillips' Twitter account, which I love, really came out when you visited the White House and you gave us all a tour from your point of view.

Speaker 4 I especially loved just the single picture of the lawn and it just said lawn. That was the caption.
Just letting everyone know. And then like the red room just said red room.

Speaker 4 It was half of the red room. What has been like you tweet all your own tweets, right? I assume? Yeah, I'm afraid so.
Yeah. No, it's great.
And so have like what made you get into it? And

Speaker 4 like I love it. I think you're a great count to follow and you really show like your personality and sense of humor.
And I love when any athlete or coach does that.

Speaker 4 Have you enjoyed it? Or is it like, have you, because most people get on Twitter and eventually they start hating it. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 4 it's not the P, it's not me hating it. Sometimes haters hate you.

Speaker 4 You know, and I learned a lot of things that not to say too.

Speaker 4 But I actually started it when I got to be the head coach of the Cowboys. You know, there was so much.

Speaker 4 And Twitter was coming out then.

Speaker 4 And I thought, well, this is a good way to get to the fans, you know, to speak to the fan. You have press conferences and all that, but it's, you know, it's just coach speak, all that really.

Speaker 4 So I thought, you know,

Speaker 4 you know, I just put on there, hey, we caged the bears or something like that, you know, and the fans love that, you know, they love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 And or, you know, we're excited about this game or whatever, you know, which was true.

Speaker 4 uh so i i started doing it then and just kind of stuck with it uh but like i say i I, you know, I made a few mistakes by you know saying things I probably shouldn't have,

Speaker 4 especially about Green Bay. They

Speaker 4 their fans really get mad at you, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 And yeah, you got to learn about the like button too, because people look up what tweets you're liking on there, too.

Speaker 4 Uh,

Speaker 7 I saw that there was a uh a little snafu with your ring that you got from the Super Bowl. Did you get that fixed? They misspelled your name on your Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, they uh, they they certainly did. They didn't misspell my name, they didn't, They had the wrong name.
So

Speaker 4 it says,

Speaker 4 it didn't say Coach Phillips. It said Coach Peters.

Speaker 4 Which,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I might have liked it one time in my life, but

Speaker 4 that wasn't it. So

Speaker 4 they.

Speaker 4 One of the guys, alphabetically, they switched it somehow.

Speaker 4 One of the guys

Speaker 4 that worked there,

Speaker 4 he got his regular ring i got the wrong wrong uh name so uh i wanted to try to keep it they wouldn't let me do it so i had to send it back to them and they but they i'll say that this forum they got it back got me a new one pretty quickly uh you mentioned the cowboys we haven't had we've never had a cowboys coach on um

Speaker 4 how much how much Did you dread Jerry's press conference after games? Jerry's press conference? Yes. Oh, well, no.
I mean,

Speaker 4 Jerry's going to say what he's going to say. And, you know, that's just part of being the coach there.
You already know that.

Speaker 4 But also, Jerry, you know, Jerry is so much different in that,

Speaker 4 you know, he's a general manager. And, you know, you expect general managers to say things and be quoted in the paper and so forth.
But for some reason, since he's the.

Speaker 4 owner,

Speaker 4 you know, nobody's, they always look at him as owner saying something, but he's really saying stuff as a general manager.

Speaker 7 Could you sense his presence when he was down on the sidelines, when he was doing the Jerry Jones?

Speaker 4 No, he usually came down on the sideline when we were winning at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 He wasn't down there when we were losing.

Speaker 4 You have a DVD. It's called Coach's Choice DVD.
I have to ask a really random question, but the cover of the DVD has like a super dangerous tackle on it.

Speaker 4 Why'd you pick that? Oh, that's a super dangerous tackle yeah the guys the guy's got his his head down oh yeah right on the thigh like it's

Speaker 4 oh yeah it's like a picture of what not to do in a football field no yeah no when i did the when i did the video uh the dvd which was a long time ago um

Speaker 4 uh

Speaker 4 a friend of mine had worked with a guy out in california jim peterson who who uh who wrote a book for uh bill wash but anyway he does these dvds and so they asked me to do it so i went out there and did that i thought maybe it was your sense of humor coming out like hey here's uh

Speaker 4 coach phillips being like here's how not to tackle like here's it here's an instructional dvd on how to play defense with the worst tackle ever on the cover

Speaker 4 no i no i didn't even realize that so

Speaker 4 hey check on the picture if you teach every other player how to tackle poorly then only the guys that play for you know how to tackle the correct here i'll show you let's see kind of a genius move yeah let's get, let me see if I can get it up in the,

Speaker 4 I think this, I think you'll be able to see it.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, who's going to get the lowest, right? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Does low man win?

Speaker 4 Is that a challenge? Low man wins every time. I love it.

Speaker 4 Duck your head. Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 Your other Super Bowl appearance recently here with the Rams.

Speaker 7 I know that it didn't turn out the way that you would have liked to ultimately, but you only gave up 13 points to the Patriots in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Has that that sunk in to the point where you can look back on that game and be proud of the performance that you had, at least individually as a coach and as your defensive unit went out there and performed?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you always feel like you're proud of whatever they did.

Speaker 4 I mean, even though, you know, I gave up the most points

Speaker 4 in a little loss in the Super Bowl when

Speaker 4 I was at Denver the first time and we lost to the... 49ers and they scored 55 points.
So I gave up the most points ever in the Super Bowl

Speaker 4 and a loss. And then I gave gave up the least points ever in the Super Bowl with that 13.

Speaker 4 So both those games were losses. You know, that's just the way it goes.

Speaker 4 What was it like coaching under Sean McVay with the age difference? Was there ever a moment where you're like, man,

Speaker 4 I've been coaching. You literally were coaching in the NFL for longer than he's been alive.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you know,

Speaker 4 I said it when I first got the job. I asked him if I could say it, but I said it when I first got the job job that you know we're the only staff that had

Speaker 4 uh one coach on on medic on

Speaker 4 uh medicare and the and the other coach in day daycare so

Speaker 4 but you guys got i mean you obviously went to the super bowl you had a successful relationship um you know was it ever weird to just sit there and be like hey i've i've seen all this stuff but he i mean everyone knows coach mcvey is obviously so advanced and such an exceptional coach is is that really what it is like age doesn't matter it's just

Speaker 4 is.

Speaker 4 He's certainly special in that way.

Speaker 4 We always say when we get older, age is just a number. It doesn't make a difference.
But he's one of those when he's younger and it doesn't make a difference because

Speaker 4 he knows a lot of football. He's got a great sense for communication with the players.

Speaker 4 and coaches and everybody. So he's a great,

Speaker 4 they asked me about him being a great young coach. He's just a great coach.

Speaker 7 Yeah. We were talking to Coach Fisher not too long ago about working with your defensive coordinators in practice, especially if you have a young quarterback or a rookie quarterback, even.

Speaker 7 Sometimes he'd be teamed up with Dr. Heat, Greg Williams, and you'd have to try to tell Greg, hey, maybe lay off the heat a little bit.
We're trying to work on some things with our rookie.

Speaker 7 Is that something that you had consciously in your head when you'd be sending your defense out there in practice?

Speaker 7 If you have a young quarterback, would you intentionally try to give him certain types of looks or lay off other types of looks so that he could progress as well as, you know, like, cause you want to have your defense prepared for the game, but you also want to make sure that your, you know, your star young quarterback is progressing at the right pace.

Speaker 4 Yeah, usually, usually in the offseason, we would go, you know, ones against ones, but, you know, once you get into preseason and so forth, you really, you really, I don't like the ones to go against the ones because I want somebody to win, you know.

Speaker 4 So I like the one defense to go against the

Speaker 4 two offense and vice versa when I was a head coach. And then, And I think that's the way most people do it.
I mean, you don't want to, yeah, you don't want to run a young quarterback for sure,

Speaker 4 having him in a situation where he's going against a veteran defense that gives him all kinds of problems at practice.

Speaker 4 So who is the hardest offensive player to game plan against? It could be quarterback, running back, wide receiver.

Speaker 4 Who's the guy that when you think back, like that guy, I just couldn't figure it out because he was just so talented and so exceptional?

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, all the great quarterbacks was, I mean, you know, Tom Brady, he's the first one. I mean, gee, you know,

Speaker 4 he's going to know what you're in all the time. And,

Speaker 4 you know, Peyton Manning before he was on my team, and then when he was on my team in practice, he, you know.

Speaker 4 he would he would work with the scout team every once in a while especially when he was hurt that year and he was coming back and we'd want to see certain looks you know and he would audibly practice to to stop us you know so uh those kind of guys, I mean, they're so good that, you know, they're so hard to play against.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Norm Van Brockland was really tough

Speaker 4 in the course.

Speaker 4 But I go way back with a lot of great ones. Yeah.
Blake Bortles.

Speaker 7 Tell me about game planning against Blake Bortles.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, we had Blake, you know, I played against him

Speaker 4 when I was coaching with the Texans

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 a real athletic guy, you know, that's the thing. I mean, in practice, you know, they have to throw the ball all the time.
They don't really run with it.

Speaker 4 So, working against him in practice, you know, you didn't have to worry about him running with the football. But when you play it against him in game, you know, the guy's athletic enough to,

Speaker 4 you know, if it wasn't there, he'd run for a first down. So, you know, these running quarterbacks that we're getting more and more of now,

Speaker 4 you know, it's a

Speaker 4 different

Speaker 4 game plan and

Speaker 4 hard to work against in practice because you don't see it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think Blake actually has the highest yards per carry of any quarterback, at least in the last 10 years, right? Yeah,

Speaker 7 he's like the ultimate dual threat guy. How involved were you in choosing

Speaker 7 who the scout team quarterback was going to be for the offense, depending on who you're going to be matched up against the next week?

Speaker 4 As long as it isn't the first team quarterback, I mean,

Speaker 4 we'll put somebody there. You know, we put wide receivers there if they

Speaker 4 could throw a little bit and run with it, you know, just to give us the look every once in a while yeah or a running back if you happened to play quarterback in college or something like that so you mentioned the quarterbacks that can move and do all these things in in today's game um this just popped in my head the instant classic the monday night football game rams versus chiefs how much did that suck for you Because everyone was like, that was the greatest game ever.

Speaker 4 It probably wasn't great to be the defensive coordinator in that game, even though there were defensive touchdowns that were scored. Yeah, we scored two touchdowns on defense.
And

Speaker 4 I don't know, we sacked them a bunch of times and then we intercepted, what, three times or something like that. So,

Speaker 4 and what I've always said with my guys, you still got to play good enough to win. You know,

Speaker 4 when it came down to it, we had to make the stops or even at the end of the game, they had the ball at the end of the game and they could win the game. We stopped and we got an interception.
So,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 when you shut somebody out, that's great. But it comes down to the same deal.
If you give up less points than their defense gives up, you know, uh, then you're going to win the game.

Speaker 4 And I don't want them ever, you know,

Speaker 4 be having a quote bad game and worry about all that. I want to worry about winning the game, somehow winning the game.

Speaker 4 And if they, you know, if they scored 50 points already, so what, you know, we've got to stop in this last series, and we did. So, I, you know,

Speaker 4 yeah,

Speaker 4 I know how to beat Mahomes, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 I like that, though, because I think that's the score. Yeah, I mean, that obviously was such a crazy game up and down, but it probably speaks to you as a player's coach.

Speaker 4 And I think most players that played for you will say that is like, at the end of the day, winning the game is all that really matters. Obviously, there's stuff you clean up afterwards, but who cares?

Speaker 4 You gave 51, but your team scored 54.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I like the attitude that you have, too, which is it's almost like you're a father of the defense. Like, that'd probably be a more appropriate title.

Speaker 7 You are the dad of whatever defense is out there because you love your children all the same. And yeah,

Speaker 7 they might let up a Super Bowl record amount of points on defense, or they might let up a 13-point loss to the Patriots, and you love their performance because they're your guys.

Speaker 7 And at the end of the day, you're just a proud dad.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 they're my guys, you know, they are.

Speaker 4 And I believe in relationships, you know, not just,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I'm the know-it-all or the, the

Speaker 4 you know i use and i've told it before i mean i i've i've encouraged players to say say something if they thought you know they thought it was important in the game that hey you know uh

Speaker 4 akeep to leave we were playing kansas city and and we had him we had him backed up right before the half they just get the ball uh got the ball before the end of the half and he said he is you're going out on the field he said coach he said call uh call this certain defense

Speaker 4 and uh

Speaker 4 uh he said because they throw it he said they throw an out route on the first play of the uh series you know and in two minutes and i said well i got something else i can call but i'll call it for you of course they ran an out route he intercepted and we scored for the half and ended out one of the game so uh

Speaker 4 yeah you know i i those things are important i think if i was a different type of coach uh he might not have ever said anything to me you know so i think those things help yeah absolutely Who would be the best player that you've ever coached that maybe isn't one of those like top-name, maybe not like a perennial Pro Bowler?

Speaker 7 But is there one guy that stands out to you over the course of your career that's been like a very important guy defensively that might not have gotten all the accolades, but you're like, this dude can play football?

Speaker 4 Uh,

Speaker 4 well, a whole bunch of them, I think. You know, I mean, uh,

Speaker 4 I can go back,

Speaker 4 of course, you know, I've got a whole lot of Hall of Famers now. I mean, like Ricky Jackson and

Speaker 4 Robert Brazil and Curly Culp and Elvin Bethay. I've coached in the first, you know, my first 10 years of coaching.

Speaker 4 They were all in the Hall of Fame now.

Speaker 4 And then Atwater's going in, you know, this year he was supposed to be in, but Atwater's going in. So,

Speaker 4 but,

Speaker 4 you know, besides the Hall of Famer, you know, I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 4 We had a guy named Vernon Perry with the Houston Oilers that had the greatest game in the history of playoffs.

Speaker 4 When we played San Diego Chargers, when I was with the Oilers, the playoff game, he had four interceptions and blocked a field goal and ran it back to like the 10-yard line. And we won 10 to 7.
Wow.

Speaker 4 He had the greatest game that I've ever been around.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 he wasn't a Pro Bowler or anything like that, but he had the greatest game for sure. Great one day.
All right. So, Coach Wade, this has has been awesome.
The Overtime Podcast.

Speaker 4 I have one last question for you.

Speaker 4 What's it? Someone tipped us off that you stole tapes from SMU back in the day. Have you returned those? What's the story behind that?

Speaker 4 Well, this is, I don't know, I don't want to get a long story, but I'll try to shorten it. No, we have as much time as you want.

Speaker 4 Well, anyway,

Speaker 4 I was going to Oklahoma State.

Speaker 4 I was coming from high school, Oklahoma State. My dad was the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State.
So he hired me and another young coach.

Speaker 4 But my dad had been at SMU and he was moving to Oklahoma State. Okay.
And a new coach came in at SMU.

Speaker 4 Hayden Fry was there, if people remember Hayden Fry.

Speaker 4 He got fired. They went seven and four and beat Texas.
But they still fired, they had fired Hayden with three or four games left.

Speaker 4 And so they let him finish out the year, but they ended up having a good year. So anyway, so

Speaker 4 my dad goes to, they had a good defense, and my dad was coaching the defense.

Speaker 4 So he goes to Oklahoma State, and he wants SMU to give him the, you know, give him the copy of the film from SMU so he could put in the defense, you know, so he'd have tape on the defense or, you know, film on the defense so he could teach the Oklahoma State guys that.

Speaker 4 Well, the new guy, SMU, the new head coach, said, no, we're not going to let you have the film. He just wanted a copy of the the film.

Speaker 4 He didn't want the original, you know, and they wouldn't give it to him. So I'm young.

Speaker 4 And another young coach named Harold Richardson and I are both going there. And we get there the first day.
And my dad says, okay, Harold, you and Wade go down and get the film from SMU.

Speaker 4 You know, now

Speaker 4 they'd already told him they couldn't have it. Okay.

Speaker 4 So Harold had worked at SMU with my dad as a graduate assistant. So

Speaker 4 Harold knew the layout, really.

Speaker 4 And so Harold calls some friends down there, finds out the head coach is not there. He's out recruiting or something.
And so Harold and I go down to SMU to get the film.

Speaker 4 And we walk into coach's office. And of course, the secretaries at that time,

Speaker 4 they knew Harold, you know, hey, Harold, how you doing? You know, and Harold said, I'm doing great. And they said, well, Harold, what are you doing here? You know? And he said, well,

Speaker 4 I'm here to get the film. And they said, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 And so, and Harold told me before we went in, he said, hey, don't say anything. Just act like you know what you're doing.
I said, okay. So he walks in.
So

Speaker 4 he's the mastermind of this. So we go into offices.
And, you know, some of the coaches are there. Some of them aren't defensive coaches.

Speaker 4 He knew where all the defensive coaches' offices were, you know. And so we go in the defensive line.

Speaker 4 office and the film was in there, you know, some of the film and Harold would just hand me the film. There were cases, you know, and he just handed me the film.
And so

Speaker 4 we went in one guy's office and he's watching the film and the lights are off and they had the,

Speaker 4 you know, the 16 millimeter film, you know, and

Speaker 4 he's running it. The coach is running it.
Harold turns on the light, you know, and says, hey, I'm Harold Richardson. And the guy says, yeah.
He said, well, I'm here to get the film.

Speaker 4 Now, the guy already has the film. Harold walks over, rewinds the film while the guy's sitting there you know said we need this film you know puts it in the case hands it to me we walk out and uh we

Speaker 4 we walk out of the building with all the film from the year before you know

Speaker 4 and it's the original film it's not it's not copy

Speaker 4 and so we take it up to okloma state uh we made up our cut up our film uh for for our teaching purposes taped back together the film where the missing parts were and sent it back to SMU.

Speaker 4 Of course, they raised hell, you know, when they got it back because they were missing a lot of the film.

Speaker 4 But anyway, we did what my dad said. Go down there and get the film.
So we did.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and you know what happened later?

Speaker 7 I hate to bring this up, but the Music City Miracle play was taken from film from an SMU game by a Dallas Cowboys special teams coordinator who then brought it up to Tennessee.

Speaker 7 It was almost like maybe the curse of the film.

Speaker 4 Yeah, came back to Tennessee. Yeah, well, we should have cut that out too, I guess.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 yeah right if you just cut that out yeah we weren't doing special teams we were just doing defense yeah i could have been a little smarter i guess but i wouldn't yeah that's the answer now if you could change one thing in your entire life it'd be to cut out the special teams film when you stole it from snow you were right there everything would be different our are gonna get a a different official who was supposed to be there watching the watching the throw

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 well this has been awesome coach wade we really appreciate it um we'd love to do it in person, too. Next time you're in New York City, definitely come by.

Speaker 4 And good luck. And you are officially retired from retirement.
You said that.

Speaker 4 So anyone who needs help who wants to make their defense great, because that's what you've done your entire career, let's get it going.

Speaker 7 Oh, I mean, we're friends of Deion Sanders.

Speaker 4 We can have him give you a call. You want to go to Jackson State? Yeah, there we go.
Well, I think the USFL is coming back, too. So that's true.

Speaker 4 That's true. Okay.
But

Speaker 4 I'd like to stay in Houston if I I could. All right.
All right. Well,

Speaker 4 we'll,

Speaker 4 anything we hear will pass your way. We don't hear anything.
So this is a totally hollow offer by me.

Speaker 7 We know Dana, the coach of the university. Yeah, we know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're actually good friends with Dana Holgerson. Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah. But of course, that's my alma mater.
Yeah. Well, he doesn't really play defense, though.
No.

Speaker 4 He's one of those offensive games. He doesn't worry about defense.
Yeah, right. Or more than the other team in UN.
That's actually perfect.

Speaker 7 They'll be like, hey, listen, I'll not go, I'll take you down from uh 40 points per game given up to 39 points per game. Yeah,

Speaker 4 might win. I think I could do that.
Yes, I love it. All right, well, Coach Wade, thank you so much.
Really appreciate it. Hey, I enjoyed it, guys.
Good to see you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4 All right, let's finish up. We got two segments and a couple FAQs.

Speaker 4 Segment number one, Garrett Cole, what were we going to say? PR101?

Speaker 7 PR101 for Garrett Cole. Yes.
He was asked in an

Speaker 7 open press conference today? They didn't have a game. He didn't pitch today, right?

Speaker 7 Anyways, he was asked by one reporter, have you ever used the substance known as spider attack to enhance your grip? And his answer was, here, I'll do a Garrett Cole impression.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 7 don't know how to answer that.

Speaker 4 That's really what he said. Garrett Cole, here's a little PR I 101 for you.

Speaker 7 It's called lying. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You just have to lie.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And if you just lie, what will happen is people will print your lie.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And then people read that and be like, oh, Garrett Cole doesn't use Spider-Tac.

Speaker 7 And then the story's over. And then you can just stop using Spider-Tack if you've been using it before.
The thing you don't want to do...

Speaker 7 I would actually have respected a lot more if he'd be like, yeah, I've used it because literally every pitcher uses it. And now that I know that they're cracking down, I'm not going to use it anymore.

Speaker 4 Well, he kind of did say say that by accident when he was like, you know, there's a lot of things in this game that were passed down from the previous generation to this generation. Essentially, like,

Speaker 4 yeah, no, I, it's not me. I'm like, you know, I'm holding my friend's weed for him.
Like, it's not, no, no, no, no, no. Like, someone else gave me that.
So, yeah, he

Speaker 4 all-time terrible answer. Really bad.
But his hair looked awesome. I actually noticed that.

Speaker 7 I mean, how many different ways were the Astros cheating?

Speaker 7 We got to figure out.

Speaker 4 It doesn't count this way, though, because it's literally everyone. Well, I think it was the Yankees first, and the Astros took it from them, and it's pretty much just them, too.

Speaker 7 He should blame Astro's culture.

Speaker 4 I have a feeling

Speaker 4 I want to give a little PSA to our friend Trevor Bauer.

Speaker 4 I think they're going to try to, much like they found the villains in the steroid era, I think they're going to try to find a villain for the Spider-Tac era, and who would be better than Trevor Bauer because people don't like him.

Speaker 4 Not saying he does it. Actually, I would say he probably doesn't, but they're going to try to pin it on him and make him persona non grata.
So, Trevor, please make sure you're clean.

Speaker 7 Well, Trevor, also, you're probably listening to this podcast, right? I'm sure you have whatever the Google alert equivalent of a podcast notification is.

Speaker 7 You are cheating.

Speaker 7 The spin rate thing is like pretty obvious for Trevor Bauer. But again, everybody else is cheating too.
Yeah. But they are going to try to pin it on you.

Speaker 7 Right. Beware of that.
And Garrett Cole. It's happening.

Speaker 4 Garrett Cole.

Speaker 7 This is what they warned about with Garrett Cole when it comes to the New York media. Like, some people aren't ready for the bright lights of New York City.

Speaker 7 He didn't anticipate that somebody would ask him a tough question like, hey, Garrett, do you cheat at baseball? He was not prepared for that.

Speaker 7 That's only the type of question you get out of the big apple.

Speaker 4 Yeah, unbelievable. Unbelievable.
All right. Sorry, Hank just passed a yawn to me.
Or did I pass it to you? It was simultaneous. Wait, Hank.

Speaker 4 Did we just...

Speaker 4 Did we just come at the same time, pretty much?

Speaker 7 Hank, when you catch a yawn from somebody, you don't do the noise. Oh.
That was a silent yawn.

Speaker 4 Why? My mic was off.

Speaker 7 I would hear you yawn down the hallway.

Speaker 4 I don't think so. You guys have noise-canceling headphones on and big house talking.

Speaker 4 All right, so we have

Speaker 4 a respect to biz, quick one from Paul Sullivan. I'll leave it on.
I'll leave it on. P.W.
Sullivan at Twitter. He deleted it.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 He deleted it.

Speaker 4 And Chicago Tribune, long time baseball writer, sports writer, sports columnist, sorry, so much so that he does have the picture of himself from the newspaper header from like 25 years ago.

Speaker 4 The Cubs are playing in San Diego, and he said the Padres allow fans to invade press box to take photos during work so late.

Speaker 7 Gross.

Speaker 4 And someone responded and was like,

Speaker 4 I was like, I'm a Padres fan, and they do this four hours before the game so that a few fans can get pictures.

Speaker 7 So initially, when I saw the tweet, I was like, maybe this happened during the game. And they were, I don't know, cheering, heaven forbid, having fun.

Speaker 7 But no, I looked at the background of the picture. And the background of the picture clearly shows the batting practice gets so far up.
And there's like one other person in the press box at the time.

Speaker 7 So it was just literally him with his phone stopping. because he was being interrupted from his work by other people taking pictures to take a picture of them.
Yes.

Speaker 7 One thing fans need to realize, Big Cat, is the only reason that you really get in to sports media at that level to be a press box guy is so that you can look down on fans. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And so that you can feel like you're superior to them and like they owe you a debt of gratitude for covering the game that they watch on TV. All facts.

Speaker 7 So you can't come in and disturb. That's like, that is their holy grail.
That's their space that they have carved out for themselves because they went to journalism school.

Speaker 4 I just hope the Diet Coke machine was working.

Speaker 4 What did you think about this, Jake? Disgusting, right? Just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
I did hashtag GrowTheBiz, not an an ideal way to do that today. Yeah.
Oh, wait.

Speaker 4 I used to go to press boxes. Wait, no, no.
You think the fans are

Speaker 4 no, no. He is.
This is not the tweet. We disagree.
The tweet was not an ideal way to act. Grow the biz.
You can't have fans. They're fucking dirty ass fans who root for teams.
Gross.

Speaker 7 Jake, this guy's got a deadline in seven hours. Uh-huh.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Probably more like nine. Yeah.
Yeah. The best one is.

Speaker 7 The West Coast comes out in the late edition of the movie.

Speaker 4 The writers will tweet about having their game story. They call them gamers in the biz.
Don't

Speaker 4 ruin it to me. That's my favorite part of when something dramatic happens and they're like,

Speaker 4 well, this sucks.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, it was fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 It's sports. They always tweet about how their story is no longer usable.

Speaker 4 Yeah. All right.
FAQs finish this up. Hank, we got some killer guests coming up, by the way.
Let's get some official predictions on how this overtime game ends. Oh, Avalanche.

Speaker 7 The Gucci Overtime Challenge?

Speaker 4 Avalanche.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go. Well, you have to say who scores the game.
Kill McKinnon.

Speaker 4 It's the only player I know. Chocolate.
I was going to say that.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go with the second best guy on the team. And.

Speaker 4 Kel McCarr. Yeah, yeah, McCarr.
McCarr. McCarr.
He went to UMass. That's all right.
I love him. Here we go.
We got this. McCaffrey.
All right. I'll take the ninth name.

Speaker 7 Great UMass name, too.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to Colorado McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 Find someone, Hank? Flurry. Yeah, Flurry.

Speaker 4 I like it. That could happen.
All right.

Speaker 7 You never know.

Speaker 7 Wait, is Reeves planned?

Speaker 4 Dude, if you got that right,

Speaker 4 I don't know what you'd get, but you need to get something. It'd be like when Billy predicted whatever that was, Monday Night Football.
Yes. Hey, Hank, I would like, or no, Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 4 Hey, Hank, I would like to know what the dynamic of the PMT group chat is. Who texts first? Who never texts? Who gets the most laughs and upvotes? Is it all work, no play in the chat?

Speaker 4 I'd say it's actually very even text messages, right?

Speaker 4 It's also even on the play and work as well, I'd say. A lot of planning.
it's usually

Speaker 7 it's bursts yeah whatever it is it's bursts during the week it's usually work like here's what time we have to be at so-and-so location because we're around each other so much that there's really not a big need to text anything we'll just like bust somebody's push to their face yep but on the weekends if there's blood in the water if if one of us has one of our favorite teams have something bad happen to them uh-huh then it's just like open season for about three hours something funny um

Speaker 4 liam's clips at four in the morning liam's clips at four in the morning they come through.

Speaker 4 We also do have a text message. It's PMT, no Billy.
Yep. Which, what did you say? Every time you saw it, who said that every time they saw it, they thought it was PMT? No, Billy.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Bad boy.

Speaker 7 Because it's got a picture of Billy with a circle and a line through it over. So I always think that Billy fucked up when I get a text message.

Speaker 4 And it's not, we're going to add him back in when he comes back, which could be. It's for his own good.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I would say there's been times where I haven't been on my phone.

Speaker 4 I've looked and there's been like 20 messages, but then by the time I get to to the bottom, I'm like, all right, I don't need to add anything. Nothing is over.
It's over. It just goes in and out.

Speaker 7 And occasionally, Hank will do this really passive-aggressive thing where he goes back like four months and he emphasizes a tweet or a text.

Speaker 4 I did that too. I pulled that on him.

Speaker 4 I went back, yeah, four months. That's a thumbs up.
Sometimes you've got to get petty. I think all group texts can be like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. What? I thumbs.
Yeah. You got a thumbs down, like, yeah.
If you were right about something a long time ago and

Speaker 4 you guys aren't going to bring it up, like, I'm going to. You have to bring it up myself.
You've got to be your own biggest fan.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm on a group text with my friends, and I sometimes will just, like, randomly to one of my friends, I will go back for an entire week and thumbs down everything he said.

Speaker 4 And it always hurts his feelings.

Speaker 4 Hey, Dad, Cat, Marlin's Woman, Honk, and Beta. Nope, not going to say his name.

Speaker 4 When you've hit people up for-

Speaker 4 When you've hit people up for interviews, are there any funny rejections you've gotten from people who don't want to come on? Yeah, fuck Jared Dudley. Yeah.
That one sucked. He was lame for that.

Speaker 7 And then he tried to come back on, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, then he tried to come back on.

Speaker 4 Why would you do that? The one that I wasn't like, it wasn't like a funny rejection or anything. It's more just like, I don't get why this happened.

Speaker 4 But Lil Dickie said no to us, and that always confused me because I think he'd be great on the show. And I still want him on the show.
Kevin Durant said no to us a million times.

Speaker 7 We've tried to get Chris Berman on several. He hasn't outright rejected us.
No, we just circled him.

Speaker 4 We're going to get him. We'll get him.
I'm trying to think. There's definitely been someone that we've reached out and they've been like, Yeah, this person's not doing press.
It's like, absolutely.

Speaker 7 Tim Tebow.

Speaker 4 Yeah, oh, yeah. No, I think Tim Tebow, the response was like, he doesn't really jive with you guys.
It's like, that's a totally fair assessment.

Speaker 4 I heard it was a hard no from Tim Tebow, which I would expect that. Like, I wouldn't want Tim Tebow to say yes to us because we would make fun of him.

Speaker 4 Would you guys bail anyone out on this podcast if they committed murder?

Speaker 7 Depends who they killed.

Speaker 4 Depends on how they killed him. Within Saul.
But what if it was murder and that person called and was like, I didn't do it?

Speaker 7 What if they killed Baby Hitler?

Speaker 7 I'm the first one there.

Speaker 4 If Jake told me he didn't do it, I'd believe him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Of all people,

Speaker 4 he's the biggest psychopath here.

Speaker 7 If Jake says he didn't do it, he didn't do it. And if he did, that's family business.

Speaker 4 Keep it in the family. I want to lie to the friends, Jake.
La Cosa, no, sure. We have a sit-down about it.

Speaker 4 No effects. You know?

Speaker 7 Maybe we give you an envelope until you get lost for a while. Yeah.
A nice sit-down. This is your family.

Speaker 4 Our thing.

Speaker 4 I would actually, as long as, like,

Speaker 4 I think as long as it wasn't, like, a child or I think if it was another man, I'd bail out all of you guys out for killing another man. It's pretty sexist.

Speaker 4 Well, no, I would not bail you out if you killed a woman. I wouldn't.

Speaker 7 No matter what woman it was. Any woman.

Speaker 4 Hitler's wife. Ava Braun, she killed herself.
No, did Hitler kill her?

Speaker 7 Baby Hitler killed her. Unclear.
Uncle. They're living in Argentina.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think I'd bail you guys out. If you guys are like, hey, I got into beef with another man, had to kill him.
I'd be like, all right, fine, fuck it. Let's roll.

Speaker 4 What if Hank was like, hey, I'd say no more, fam.

Speaker 7 I fucked up. I killed Jake.
The memes got to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I'd bail him out because I'd be like, finally, you stood up for yourself.

Speaker 7 I would bail him out under the condition that we record a podcast immediately before you get arrested.

Speaker 4 What took you so long, Hank?

Speaker 4 All right, this person sent like 12 questions. I'm going to read them all as fast

Speaker 4 as I can, and you guys can just choose which one you answer. Oh, God.

Speaker 4 Have you ever guys thought about doing live shows like KSU Radio? Have you ever thought about doing less than three shows a week? Because it seems everyone's more busy now. Any update on KD coming on?

Speaker 4 Will you ever talk about what happened with Dan Bilzerian? I have holes in my old PMT shirt from where? Can I get a new one? How's life? How excited are you for the Brooks-Dave golf match?

Speaker 4 Are you really going to be on Brooks bag the whole time?

Speaker 7 My answer is no.

Speaker 4 My answer is we can't talk about it.

Speaker 7 You have to figure out which one.

Speaker 4 That actually answers, I think, all of them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those are mostly no. That actually answers every question.

Speaker 4 Except for, have you thought about doing less than three shows? Because we haven't. No.
That's also a no. That's a no.
Yeah, we never have.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think we covered it all because there's one specific, yeah, that will give you a little bit more with we can't talk about it.

Speaker 4 But Dan Bilzerian made a sign something that was like, $5 million, we'll sue you if you talk about this, which I guess now he's going to sue us.

Speaker 7 But he sucked.

Speaker 4 Also met Steve Will Do It.

Speaker 4 Remember that? Yeah. He was like, hey, I'm Steve Will Dewitt.
I was like, who? But now I follow him. Big fan.
Gives out Teslas everywhere. Dude just gives Teslas out.
He's Ludden. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 And his fucking dog's cute. Donald.
Does Big Cat even eat the donuts? I know way too much about Steve Will Dewitt.

Speaker 7 I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 4 I can tell by your side looks like that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no idea.

Speaker 4 I was pumped to meet him when we saw him. Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 he's awesome.

Speaker 7 I'm a fan of Steve Willet. He's like a made-up reality star for me.

Speaker 4 Dave dropped the ball with with that one. Steve was trying to work here.
Really?

Speaker 4 I like Steve will do it.

Speaker 4 I felt bad when he introduced it. I was like, I don't know who

Speaker 4 you are, but now

Speaker 4 we help doing it.

Speaker 4 You could have seen it, and it's crazy.

Speaker 7 Oh, Flurry just hit the post.

Speaker 4 Does Big Cat even eat the donuts? He's looking good lately.

Speaker 4 How many donuts do you actually eat out of those? You tweet six every Saturday. Seven.
Seven.

Speaker 4 I usually eat three.

Speaker 7 But it's the weekend, so it doesn't count.

Speaker 4 It's usually three, and then

Speaker 4 one, one other members of my household. And then now there's a baby, so I'll probably just have to make her eat them too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we don't finish. We don't finish all of them, but I'll have a bite of every single one.
That's kind of what I do.

Speaker 7 When was the last Saturday you didn't buy donuts?

Speaker 4 It's been a while. It's literally my favorite thing to do.
My son and I go, and it's a fucking great time. We just go, we pick out the donuts.
It's like a little serenity, kind of a decompression.

Speaker 4 Like, let's get into the weekend. It's just, it brings me happiness.
I really like it.

Speaker 7 I've always wanted to have a place where I go.

Speaker 4 What I do. I know.
No, it's nice. That's adorable.

Speaker 7 I want to have a place where I go, like, on a regular scheduled time where they know you, and you walk in, they're like, oh, hey, it's Mr. Comet.

Speaker 4 Hey, Mr. Cometer, we got those frosted ones that you like so very much.

Speaker 7 Do you, when you walk in, are they like, oh, it's, it's Dan?

Speaker 4 No, so the guy

Speaker 4 does.

Speaker 4 He does kind of know who I am because it's a, it's a donut dam. He, uh, oh, there we go.
It was the Knights, which

Speaker 4 I did predict,

Speaker 4 and it was not Nathan McKinnon. That's pretty crazy.
The Knights. Yeah, Knights up three, two.

Speaker 4 No, the place I go to, which I don't want to like say because it actually there's a line. I would not say it.
And there's a line, but I'm usually like first in line. So I think

Speaker 4 he's staying on the street. What do you want me to say? I've got it timed out.
I fucking know what time it opens. It's a place that

Speaker 4 it's literally a line down the block. What do you want me to say, Hank? I don't want to wait a while.
I love it.

Speaker 7 This is great information.

Speaker 4 So I wait. I get there.
I know when to get there.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 so I'm usually number one or two in the line. Usually when someone's ahead of me.
Is it the same crew up top?

Speaker 4 No, usually when someone's ahead of me, it's like someone who I can tell like you're a fucking tourist. Like you just googled this and

Speaker 4 probably got here because you thought it was open.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, and they opened the doors for me. And

Speaker 4 it's fucking awesome. Yeah, the guy.
I think the guy recognizes me. I think he knows who I am.
I think he's Spanish.

Speaker 4 Not an FAQ, but anytime anyone, anytime something in F1 happens, me and my buddy just say, box, box. Yeah, box, box, box.
And that was talking F1. F1 is awesome.
Please get Daniel on the pod. Huh?

Speaker 7 I also like to say, like, he won't retire. He's too much of a driver to retire.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Push, push, push, push. Okay, push.

Speaker 4 Okay, okay, Pierre, push. Mode, push, mode, push, push.

Speaker 4 Okay, push here.

Speaker 4 I just love it when they get like P7. Okay, box box.

Speaker 4 P7. That was a great drive.
I love how they also just apologize to each other all the time. They're like, oh, I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 7 Did you see that one dude? He got passed by like seven cars in about five seconds.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then he probably was like, sorry, guys.

Speaker 4 It was hilarious.

Speaker 7 Watching it from the point of view of the cockpit. Sorry.

Speaker 4 Sorry, guys. All right, well, and we'll try harder next time.
Will Lenny Dykstra ever get another anonymous phone call?

Speaker 7 I'm sure, yeah, we'll reach a breaking point with Lenny at some point. But Lenny's too online recently.

Speaker 4 You want to?

Speaker 4 It's 12 o'clock. We can't do it.
12 o'clock.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Lenny Dykstra is definitely getting to bed early.

Speaker 4 Let's see last time he tweeted. People also forget we had an actual burner phone.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes. He actually had a separate.
I don't even know where it came from, but it had its own, like... It was a cell phone.
Lenny Dykstra is probably going to bed right now from last night.

Speaker 4 He hasn't tweeted for 12 hours. I'm going to leave Lenny alone.
We're not going to bother Lenny. But that wasn't what.
But he retweeted something an hour ago.

Speaker 4 Shit. He's a huge Kwame Brown fan.
Mm-hmm. He's only retweeting Kwame Brown stuff.

Speaker 7 But Kwame isn't even on Twitter.

Speaker 7 Do I have his number?

Speaker 4 You liked something 54 minutes ago. What was it?

Speaker 4 You beat me to it, Nails. Salud.

Speaker 7 You remember when he just tweeted out like a picture of a naked woman in his basement one time?

Speaker 4 That was wild. He does weird ass shit.
Alright, hold on.

Speaker 7 I think she was there voluntarily.

Speaker 4 Are you Googling if Star 67 is still a thing? No,

Speaker 4 I don't have his number saved. So I have to go back into my DMs.

Speaker 7 Wait, can you search DMs?

Speaker 4 Well, I just went to his profile

Speaker 4 and hit DM button on it. Gotcha.
I'm actually upset that I don't have it.

Speaker 4 I guarantee you he's changed his number, right? Yeah, that's like four years.

Speaker 7 Maybe not by his own volunteer. Maybe it was.

Speaker 4 Alright, so I'll DM him and be like, hey, Lenny, can I get the new dig?

Speaker 4 And we'll do it. We'll do it.

Speaker 4 Maybe once. Although I did feel bad.
People were like, that was fucked up.

Speaker 7 But he hasn't been arrested in three years. That's true.

Speaker 4 Lenny feels like he's on the men. He's on the straight men.

Speaker 4 We're good with Lenny. All right.

Speaker 4 8. 99.
Great show. 18.
6.

Speaker 4 53.

Speaker 4 I can't believe I can't even keep track of my numbers. 53.

Speaker 4 67 ineligible.

Speaker 4 92. Ooh, damn.

Speaker 7 Albert Hainsworth. Shout out.
He got a new kidney.

Speaker 4 Who hasn't?

Speaker 4 Who hasn't had

Speaker 4 you?

Speaker 4 You're the only one. You've never won, Hank? Yeah, no.
You've been all around. It's impossible.

Speaker 4 We've had this for almost a year. There's still like 30 numbers that I haven't picked.
Wait, we've had this for almost a year.

Speaker 4 10 months.

Speaker 7 I just had an idea. Feel free to shoot it down.
Do you think that Lenny Dykstra would like to play Dungeons and Dragons with us? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 I'm shooting that down.

Speaker 7 I'll probably just eat the dragon's pussy.

Speaker 4 I will DM. I've got packs if you guys want them.

Speaker 4 Or we can hold off till Friday.

Speaker 4 Hey, Lenny.

Speaker 7 Hank's shooting us down.

Speaker 4 I'm loading up an RPG.

Speaker 7 I think it would be great. Good content, Hank.
I'm going to say great. Probably not great.

Speaker 7 Be solid. Boom, done.

Speaker 4 I said, hey, long time. Want to play Dungeons and Dragons with us?

Speaker 4 That's literally what I just said. What? What, Hank?

Speaker 4 What? No, I'm waiting for you to end the show so I can say what I really want to say.

Speaker 7 Animal factory.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow. Coyotes and badgers will hunt together.
The badger digs up the prey and the coyote runs it down.

Speaker 7 Love it. Teamwork makes a dream work.
Love you guys.

Speaker 4 Remember when you showed up to our office with a gun? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You can leave that part in.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He did. They will know that.

Speaker 4 I'm shooting.

Speaker 7 That was old

Speaker 7 Talking away.

Speaker 7 Oh, I don't know what I'm going to say and say in any way.

Speaker 7 Today's a male day to find you. Shy it away.

Speaker 7 Oh, I'll be coming for your love of take.

Speaker 7 Shy it away.

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Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 me

Speaker 7 Take

Speaker 7 me

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 I'll be

Speaker 7 gone

Speaker 7 in a change

Speaker 7 Needless to say

Speaker 7 I want to sent it to

Speaker 7 me Stone a little way

Speaker 7 So they're learning that life is okay

Speaker 7 Say after me

Speaker 7 life's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 7 Take

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