Mick Foley (Mankind), Muggsy Bogues, The Lakers Are Back And Brooks vs Bryson

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Today is Wednesday, May 26th, and the Lakers are back. We think.
They're up by eight points with one minute left. Oh, wait, PFT, how did you know that? Are we up right now watching the game at 1230 in the morning in the studio? Actually, no, we're not, Big Cat.
We're up awake watching the game at 1232 in the morning in the studio. And the Suns were back for a little bit.
The simple things in life for me is just bragging about being up late. That's really no one.
On a school night. Yes, you're right, though.
The Suns, this, I think that it was the perfect yin and yang on Sunday's show when we had, you know, you were optimistic about the Suns' chances against the Lakers. I was.
I was more the realist in the conversation about the fact that I've seen this from LeBron so many times over. He loses game one, and then he figures it out, and they win game two.
It's weird to say, but in a series that is a seven-game series and the Suns are up 1-0, I said it during this game in the fourth quarter. It felt like a must win for the Suns.
Well, I'm going to do a little whose man is this because I think it's actually Anthony Davis' win tonight. I'm not giving this win to LeBron.
Anthony Davis, if he doesn't make all those three-pointers, it's a much different game. You can't beat the Lakers if Anthony Davis is wet from three.
He also made a lot of free throws, which we'll shout out our Suns fans, listeners. It was a little bit of a ref show.
I'll just say it. Well, they set the tone.
Yes, it felt like the Lakers were destined to win this game. Take that however you want.
Right at the start, in the very first minute, Anthony Davis. Who did he kick in the nuts? Jay Crowder, right? Jay Crowder, karate.
Kick Jay Crowder in the nuts, and that probably went on to affect Jay Crowder's dismal three-point performance tonight. Shout out Jay Crowder, though, because he tries so hard on defense, and I will always respect a guy who's like, hey, listen, I'm working my ass off on defense.
I'm hustling for rebounds. I'm going to get to take a few shots here, even though I can't shoot tonight.
Yeah, and he also is a guy that doesn't lose confidence. He's like, next one's going in.
Yep, exactly. Next one is definitely going in.
So it was a good game, though. It was a fun, spirited game.
Campaign, who I never stopped believing in, was a perfect compliment to Devin Booker. But yes, it does feel like the Suns needed to win this game, and it feels like history is repeating itself over and over and over, where LeBron, you know, the feel-out game of Game 1.
And, I mean, I guess he just knows. Like, he's done it so many times.
You don't need to win Game 1. I think there's certain opponents, like if it's in the NBA Finals, he'll probably try to go out there Game 1 and wreck shit, right? Right.
But if it's in the first or second round, he's like, I'm going to let them get a little confidence, maybe run their way out of the series tonight. Let them try too hard in game one.
It's like you want to see what the best they have. Right.
You know what's going to come from the rest of the series. I tortured myself a little bit and tried to go back through history because I was like, I think that LeBron beat the Bulls every single game, or the Bulls beat LeBron every single game one and then lost the series.
It was three out of four, but two of them were 4-1 LeBron. That's just what he does.
He gives you a little bit of hope, and then you just sit there and you're like, oh, fuck. And you know what? I'm going to say something nice about LeBron, even though it was bullshit that Porzingis got fined $50,000 for doing what LeBron did.
Well, to be fair, what LeBron did did not translate to a high risk of transmission activity per Adam Silver.

That just meant it was LeBron that did this.

He has figured out when to pick his spots in these games,

that it's incredible to watch how he can be so passive for quarters

and take quarters, not off, but kind of take them off and be like, when I need to, I will make shots and I will dictate the pace of this game. And yeah, it is pretty nice to have Anthony Davis.
And shout out to Andre... Oh, we just had a Steve Ballmer.
Steve Ballmer's wearing a painter's mask. You think Steve Ballmer's invited to the Bill Gates summer of the divorce? What was that? Bill Gates, by the way, look at it.
Yeah, you have- It's probably the first text you send when you're single. If you're Bill Gates, you have to invite somebody that's like at least in an adjacent tax bracket to you when you're going on your vacation.
He probably has some hookups. I don't want to piss off Bill Gates because he's probably one of the most powerful people in the world.
if I were to be critical of Bill Gates I would say hey dude you're single now you might want to get rid of the tits yeah I mean if I was single tomorrow I wouldn't eat for like five months like you just have to you just I'm sorry but Bill you gotta get you gotta get hot you gotta get hot I think that Bill Gates is hot right now in his own Bill Gates way. Frumpy.
He's frumpy. Again, I find power attractive.
Frumpy is a bad word to say. He looks like a melted candle.
Yeah. A little bit.
He looks like he's trying to steal a pillow from a hotel underneath his shirt. Yeah.
But anyways, I would invite Steve Ballmer. Yes.
And also, I would invite Steve Ballmer regardless of his money because he's just a party starter. Right.
Maybe A-Rod. He's an energy guy.
He's kind of in the same tax bracket. Yeah, but energy guys.
Energy guys. So yeah, LeBron, I was complimenting him, and then we got sidetracked there.
I do think we need to go back and look at LeBron's greatest hits from when he was a younger player and some of the antics, some of the theatrics that he pulled off. Because knowing what we know now about LeBron, I think the cramp game would be absolutely hilarious if it happened right now.
Yes. Where he got carried.
That was funny in real time. That actually was the Spurs did just turn off the AC.
Yeah, but he got carried off the court, right? Like he had to have people physically lift him up like Rudy and walk him 10 feet to the bench. Yeah, he's a warrior.
He played through a pretty much broken shoulder tonight. Labrum James.
Yes, exactly. The series is 1-1.
I think the Lakers are now going to keep control of it. It just feels like they're a team, and maybe last year they obviously won the title, but they know when to push it and when they don't need to push it.
They can push the buttons, flip the switch, and LeBron has that part of him now where he doesn't have to give max effort all the time. He knows that he can control a game if it's a five-point game in the fourth quarter.
I do really want to see a Clippers-Lakers series series though. You know what? I think we deserve that as fans.

I'll go one step further. I think that Adam Silver

owes it to us as fans.

Yes, I agree.

So the Clippers, should we switch to the Clippers

real quick? The Clippers now

will update if

things change as we're watching the end of this game.

Again, it's 12.38 in the morning.

12.38 update.

The Clippers going down 2-0 would be very, i mean that's panic button that is that you have to smash the panic button yeah you have to ask balmer needs to ask clippy what to do in that circumstance you it is officially like you need to break the glass you need to figure it out because you know what happens if they lose this series you got to blow it all up yeah you got to blow it you got to trade paul george yeah everybody trade everyone yes i lucas just so fucking good lucas so smooth he was hitting like 32 foot three pointers consistently tonight and i love something i just just love love love like you know how we always talk about brady quinn's spiral and how you want to fuck it the part Luka's game that I want to fuck is when he does a step back or a turnaround fadeaway, and he does the teardrop that basically the ball scrapes the roof, and the net just doesn't even move. You know what I like about him? After he gets back down the court after hitting a three, when he does the turnaround, he knows when the camera's facing him.
does blue steel yes when he turns around on the defensive end of the court yes yes so we'll yeah we'll i mean it's a 10 point game right now as we're doing this at 12 40 a.m um the celtics henry all i was thinking today as i was watching the game is that the nets and lakers championship championship is going to be very interesting because the Nets look like the greatest team ever assembled tonight. Ever.
Ever. It's incredible.
No hyperbole. It really is no hyperbole because when you are watching them and you're like, okay.
There was one possession where Kyrie came down. He threw it to KD in the high post.
KD did a turnaround swish, and you're sitting there watching it. Kyrie's standing at the top of the key.
James Harden is standing in the corner. Joe Harris is standing at the three-point line.
All those guys can hit threes. Oh, and then Blake Griffin is just dunking on everyone's face.
And I know people are like, oh ankles broken he dunked four times after that so shut up oh blake is officially back he hurt his hand on the rim okay that's like the worst pain you can have here's a stat blake has had 19 dunks with the nets after zero dunks with the pistons yeah so blake is officially back he was jamming in everybody's face he's battled back extremely bravely from having to live in detroit for a couple months i think he's come blake come come back blake of the year yes and he it's just it's it's stupid watching the nets and being like okay so if kevin durant doesn't want to score they have two other all-world scorers who can just do it at any time and joe harris who fucking how many points did joe harris have 25 25 he i think he had 22 in the first half he was unconscious from three so it's like i don't know maybe it's the the celtics are just not that good which i think you agree hank and they're missing jalen brown but i think the nets might be that hard to stop right the only thing that i was thinking is like the only thing that could stop them is a team that's a better coached team. The Lakers have been together a little bit longer.
They have a little bit more size. But I don't see how it goes any other way at this point.
Yeah, so what happens when Blake does have to defend against Anthony Davis? Right. Can our boy do it? Or Joel Embiid.
Yeah. But they'll smoke the Sixers.
If they play like they did tonight, they're kind of, you know. What is the roadmap to beating the Nets? You have to hope that two out of the three guys.
You have to outscore them. You have to score more than them.
You have to outscore them, and you have to play tough D. You know what? You have to play man defense.
I think you have to. No, seriously, you have to maybe, oh, I don't know.
You have to hope that KD and Kyrie have off nights and that James Harden went out to a strip club. Yeah, I was thinking, I was like, you have to take James Harden out to the club.
You have to get a Twitter troll to go after KD. And then you have to have some type of fact or whoa moment with Kyrie that he just spends the whole time being like, is the world flat or not? If aliens show up.
And then hope Joe Harris rolls his ankle. So Joe Harris tonight, he's their fourth option.
Oh, can I get your charger real quick? Yeah, go. It's very late, yeah.
Joe Harris was 7 for 10 from 3 tonight. 7 for 10 from 3.
He's their fourth option. The bottom line is you can't beat the Nets if Joe Harris

is scoring in double digits. You just can't beat...

I know that we're overreacting.

No, we're right.

We are overreacting. It's just ridiculous

to watch them and be like, oh, James

Harden is on the floor and he's not touching the ball

and he is one of the best scorers

in the league. I'm overreacting only

because I was underreacting earlier.

After game 1, when the Nets

looked like they could be beat.

That's on me. I'm overreacting only because I was underreacting earlier after game one when the Nets looked like they could be beat.
Yes. So, I mean, that's on me.
So, I do think that I was wrong in the past. Nets might not lose a game going into the finals.
Yes. Well, no, they'll lose a game.
Alright, now you're underreacting. Yeah, I'm underreacting.
I had that same thought tonight, PFT. They will...
I just don't see how it happens. No, I think the Bucs will be a good series.
The Bucs would not. I think that would go six, seven.
Yeah, I'm back to reacting appropriately. I'm very excited to see if the Nets win the championship, the ticker tape parade that they throw for them here in New York.
How many dozens of people are going to be out there? No, Bill de Blasio is wearing a Knicks hat today.

Shout out Bill de Blasio because I think I'm starting,

he's universally hated, but I think I'm starting to like him

just because the, so for people who don't know,

he's the mayor of New York.

He came, did a press conference.

He's wearing a Nets jersey and a Nets hat.

And then today, a week later, was wearing a Knicks hat

and dropped a line like, hey, Trey Young, those hawks don't fly in New York City. I just love the idea that a person, he's almost a Veep character.
Like a person, a politician can do the Nets press conference, walk off the stage and look at his staff and be like, I fucking crushed that. Like, give me the Knicks hat.
Let's do it again. He's like if Jonah was a Mormon from Veep.
And he was wearing a James Harden jersey the other day. And now today he was complaining about Trey Young.
On top of the college shirt. He was complaining about Trey Young because Trey Young games the system too much and draws too many cheap fouls.
So, alright. So, that's basketball.
Oh, shout out to our Nuggets. One, game two.
It was illegal. We're going to get to a hat roast for the new MLB hats.
It was illegal what they did, though. They wore the Blazers jerseys.
Yeah. You can't do that.
Are there not any colorblind NBA fans out there? Because there are a shitload of colorblind NFL fans that flip out when teams are wearing the wrong colors during Color Rush. You remember that old, like the Jets-Bills game back from 2016 or whenever that was? I felt like half of Twitter was colorblind at that point.
But are you telling me that there's nobody out there that's writing letters to the NBA about like, hey, I can't tell the difference between Carmelo Anthony and the team that used to have Carmelo Anthony? Yeah, I saw, so Nike took over NBA uniforms a few years ago, and they've just completely wrecked it.

Like every team has 10 uniforms now.

They have colors that they shouldn't have.

It's so stupid what they've done.

There's been so many bad uniform matchups.

It's basically the Oregon Ducks.

If every team was the Oregon Ducks.

It's an inter-squad scrimmage.

The Oregon Ducks are cool in football because they're the only team that are the Oregon Ducks. That's cool inter-squad scrimmage.
Yeah, the Oregon Ducks are cool in football because they're the only team that are the Oregon Ducks. Like, that's cool that they wear a different uniform every week.
Now it's every fucking team has this. So, old man yelling at clouds, but you can't wear the other team's fucking colors.
You can't wear red against the Blazers. That is their color.
Right. And how can you say these colors don't run if you have every color? As a fan, what are you supposed to do?

If you get a tattoo.

If you're a Blazers fan, that shows up.

Imagine this, Big Cat.

Imagine if you're a Blazers fan, you painted your body to support the team.

Bright red.

You show up at the game.

And now all of a sudden you have to root for the Nuggets?

Or look like a fool?

I think they should just go shirts and skins.

Yeah.

Every single game. Be a lot of blood.
Be a lot of blood. KD's shoulder exploded tonight.
Yeah, dude. It was gross.
Looked like a gunshot wound when he fell down. Also, Andre Drummond, I don't know what you're doing wearing one legging, but you look really slow from it.
Like, you just look slower. Some guys look way faster, though.
But he looks so slow. I don't know.
He looks like he's always injured. Anthony Davis, when he's got the white undershirt that's really tight, which, by the way, I don't know...
Is there any other player that wears that undershirt? I think he just has a guy. Well, Drummond wears an undershirt, too.
No, but that exact style of undershirt, I think he just has a guy that makes them for him, personally. Yeah, who's trying to take over the apparel world.
Jake, what were you going to say? You guys wanted an updated stat of the big four from the Nets in game one. So the big four, including Blake, had 72 tonight.
Whoa. And part of my take, Blake Griffin, Joe Harris combined for 36.
Kyrie, James Harden, 35. Okay.
Wow. Wow.
Okay. Numbers never lie.
Great stat. They never lie.
All right. Quick, quick hockey.
And then we got to talk about Brooks and Bryson, which is- Before hockey. Ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.
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Three overtime games.

They got beat down so bad that Mike Trout was trending on Twitter

because Connor McDavid just can't win a playoff series.

Yikes.

Yikes.

And they lost in three overtimes, which I can't think of anything worse

than watching your team get swept in the third overtime.

That's a brutal, brutal way to go.

It's tough, and they broke the franchise. Wayne Gretzky resigned.
He said, I'm not going to be doing whatever Wayne Gretzky was doing. But it's a good lesson.
He's going to TNT. I thought you were going to transition that.
That was your biz, what you're talking to biz about. He's going to TNT? Yeah.
Oh, nice. Oh, he's going to get high and talk about hockey fights? Well, no, but that's a pretty smart, like, we can't get Biz Nasty.
Let's get the greatest hockey player. Honestly, like, no cap, I would 10 times out of 10 rather interview Biz Nasty than Wayne Gretzky.
Oh, for sure. Would Wayne Gretzky pass out on our couch? Now that we've already interviewed him? Yeah.
No, if you said, no... No, no, no.
Okay, so one interview, Gretzky. But if you said you have a 10-interview series, biz all day, every day.
Like, there wouldn't be anything else to talk about after a while with Gretzky. It's honestly better interviewing players that were not very good at hockey than players that were great.
And that goes for most sports, too. Think about all the great athletes out there that have transitioned to being in the front office.
They all stink at it. Yeah, it's better to have the bad athletes.
That's why we have Mark Titus coming up on Friday. Exactly.
And it's one of those things where the people that are in charge of personnel, they're fixed to everything. It's just like, do what I did.
Be me. Be smarter.
It's not that hard. I was great.
You should be great, too. Sign me again.
Yeah. But a younger version.
Maple Leafs took control of their series. And then I saw what other series we got going on right now? Carolina beat Nashville.
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right.
And are the Panthers still alive? Yeah, they are. Game five tonight.
Game six tonight in Tampa. Oh, wow.
Wait. Oh, yeah, so it's 3-2.
All right, we've hit. There hasn't been a series we've gotten wrong more than the Panthers-Tampa Bay games.
I thought we nailed it. I thought that Ben screwed it up.
Well, and Hank, we were all over the place, and now I'm thinking that it's still 3-1, but it's not. 3-2.
Do you think that uh that Connecticut residents are cheering for the hurricanes? I don't think so.

Is there any of that going on? No. The whalers bring back their whalers.
The whalers I mean those uniforms are sweet. No I mean also the greatest goal song of all time the brass bonanza.
Which one was that? Sing it. Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

Sing it.

I think that was what was played.

I don't actually know.

I think you're right because that's what they used to play.

Every time you'd execute a perfect wraparound in NHL 94, that shit would hit.

I hope that's it.

That's Brass Bonanza is the greatest goal song that shit would hit. I hope that's it.
That's Brass Bonanza.

It's the greatest goal song probably of all time.

I would actually say it.

Nope, I was wrong.

Yeah, I was wrong.

What song did I do?

I think what you just did is like what college basketball bands do.

It sounded good though, right?

It sounded like sports.

All right, play the Brass Bonanza.

Let's hear the whole Brass Bonanza.

Okay. good though right it sounded like sports all right play the brass bonanza let's hear the whole brass okay wait no this is right i was right yeah yeah this part you were singing the hook This is a fucking great song.

They should honestly bring back the Wailers just for this song.

And also, the logo is way cooler, too.

And also, I like the song because it's the brass bonanza.

That's what it is.

It's just all the brass.

It's a bonanza.

Yeah, and it's just all of them.

This is...

Oh, man.

Is that trombone?

That's a bone, yeah.

That's a bone. You can hear the slide in there.

That's T-bone.

We got to record late more often.

We just find these gems.

I want to...

I'm going to skull fuck anyone who says we didn't talk hockey.

We fucking played the Brass Bonanza.

Okay. That's great.
That's great. You know what? It sounds better, too, coming through an organ.
Yes. Yes.
Where they screw up a couple notes here and there. Yes.
Yeah. Yes.
All right. The most important story in sports world.
Let's get to that. Bryson DeChambeau, Brooks Koepka, our guy Brooks Koepka.
If you didn't see the clip, I think it's actually been pulled from all social media, but you probably did see the clip. Bryson walking.
Brooks doing an interview after his round, I think Friday. Bryson walks by, says something.
We don't know what he says. He's also wearing metal spikes, which I'm going to say right now is bad for the course.

And guys don't like them because it screws up the putting green.

Yeah, no, it actually does.

It leaves nasty divots that you can't necessarily repair correctly.

That's why when you looked at the green this weekend, there were all those brown patches.

It had nothing to do with the sprinkler system or the irrigation system or the weather or how grass grows.

That was just Bryson stomping around. And also when you miss all your putts and you just parade around every single green all the time like Bryson did, you chew up a significant portion of it.
So Brooks has a look of disdain. He closes his eyes like, I can't fucking believe this guy.
It was so good. This rivalry is so good for golf.
Obviously, we are Team Brooks till we die. We ride till we die.
And I don't know how anyone could see this and be like, that was Bryson living rent-free. Dude, Brooks, I like that Brooks wears his heart on his sleeve.
Like, I don't like this guy. He fucking annoys me.
So I'm just going to give my facial expression that he deserves. I think we need to have an honest conversation as a nation about what living rent-free in somebody's head actually entails because it gets thrown out there a lot.
It's the most common thing. If you have an opinion about somebody, they're living rent-free in your head.
And frankly, I think that them living rent-free in my head is actually good for me. Yeah.
Because that means that I'm thinking, I'm using my brain.

I'm not coasting through life like a jellyfish, just like floating around, not having a strong opinion on all your antics in front of me.

Yes.

Let me give you a hypothetical, what I might envision living rent-free in someone's head would look like.

Let's say, let's say, PFD, I'm standing giving an interview and someone walks by me that i really hate and i give a look like i fucking hate this guy and then that gets leaked onto social media this is all hypothetical by the way this gets leaked on social media everyone's like oh my god that's crazy the person who walked by me who i hate then puts out an instagram story of him lifting a hundred pound dumbbells saying can't stop won't stop trying to prove how tough he is well i think i'd say that would be rent free i think the individuals that are living rent free are bryson dechambeau's rowdy garage youth group gains bros that chill out in his nautilus circuit constantly i think they're not paying rent and they're just hanging out there out there and be like, great form, Bryson. Which, by the way, he's got bad form.
He's going to get injured. Terrible form.
I don't want him to get injured, but he's going to get injured. You don't do...
He was trying to do hammer curls. With 100 pounds.
100 pounds, just for the gram. Just for the gram.
He was using his shoulders. Popcorn muscles.
He was going bad. His elbows, the angles on his elbows were just all kinds of fucked up.
I'm actually past the point of rivalry at this point. I'm concerned for his health.
Agreed. Someone should alert him that his form is terrible.
But that's what he did. He released a video of him lifting 100-pound dumbbells in response to Brooks, showing just regular disdain, which, again, is a normal reaction of, like, I hate this this guy.
And Big Cat, hypothetically, would you say that it's living rent free if, let's say your name's not Brooks and you're teeing off, you hit a shot and then someone says, nice shot, Brooksy, and you turn around and you say, say that again, I'll get you kicked off this golf course. Would you say that would be living rent free? I would say that would i'm by no means am i telling every single person that's listening to me that might be at a tournament with bryson de chambeau to call him brooksy after he hits a tee shot i would never say something like that but if you were to do something like that i think you might be living rent free and bryson said i would agree i would agree of course but i did love i love the look on brooks it's so good because it's it's very relatable we all have things in our life that we react like that too yes it's it's like they're just people that they creep you out i don't bother you i don't even think that that brooks hates bryson as much as he's just completely creeped out by him as a person yeah yeah no i he just he just doesn't like being around him it's like being at

the water cooler and seeing the guy that you just hate walking up and you're like oh this again you know that that meme of the uh the boy walking down the street with the trumpet and the girl in front of him covering her ears while he's just blaring it that's in real life that's what was going on that. Agreed.
Alright, so

last up. By the way, the

Clippers came back

and then

uh... in real life that's what was going on agreed alright so last up by the way the Clippers came back and then the what just happened the Mavs hit a big three Tim Hardaway just hit a big three so it looks like they're going to go down 0-2 Junior Jake yeah Junior Tim Hardaway Senior he said something not a fan of the gays that's right that's right I knew he said something, right? Not a fan of the gays.
That's right. That's right.
I knew he said something. I couldn't remember what he had said.
An all-time Onion headline, too. I'm not going to say it out loud because I'll have to be transferred to the Puerto Rico division.
Where does he stand on Kony? We'll get to that. We will get to that.
All right. So I'm looking at these MLB hats for the first time.
What the fuck are these so um the internet did something good today we used our collective power to bully um new era caps into taking down the the uh new area code hats that they drop for every major league baseball team within like i think it was within 30 minutes it was just such a swift unified backlash like we still have it as a country when we're all on the same side it's just that we all team up usually um in terms of like major league sports fashion choices i think you guys are capping a little bit oh i see one person said these hats are are lit oh wait no fuck they didn't say that no the the account is get this sports shit no one says that's pretty good said no one ever are we bringing that guy made an account in 2013 and was like i am going to rule the internet i think we got to bring back said no one ever sports 148 000 followers and what's funny about those hats is like every city has the one area code that they look at they're like that area code should. This is so ridiculous.
Some of it, it's the idea, like, I don't hate the idea of having other things on the hat. It's just too much.
It's way too much. You can't have the numbers and the hat.
Like, I'm looking at the Astros. Yeah, like the...
Fuck. I kind of disagree, Hank, because you can't have, like, two area codes on there you can have none

you should have the one that the stadium

is in but you should not

you should either do one

or you should do all of them like I would absolutely

buy a hat that just said

hose on the front and then listed

every single area code that Ludacris mentioned

in that song

yeah I mean this is

I'm looking at this

I like some of the

what are these these are almost like bitmojis on it are actually not bad. I think I just saw Kansas City with a trumpet.
I don't know. Is that a big thing in Kansas City, trumpets? Yeah, sure.
What is the Minnesota one? Is it a golf course? Is that a lake?

It must be a lake.

There was one.

The Angels one's kind of clean.

Yeah, well, that's because they don't have anything

to put on there

for the Angels.

I think they actually

just left out

some of the designs

that were on the other hats

on the Angels one.

There's an orca whale

on the Mariners

and a cup of coffee.

I'd buy that

and just for the cup of coffee.

I need to buy it. I need to make a hat that just has a cup of coffee.
Chicago says Chicago and Chi-town. And it has the flag.
The flag is good. That would be a cool hat if you put that on the back.
Yeah, these are stupid. Okay, good job, everyone on the internet, for roasting them and getting this off.
I appreciate that. Oh, this is a good one.
Somebody put up a hat of the Astros, and on one side it's got the area codes, and on the other, trash can. Ooh, nice, nice.
All right, so let's get to who's back. Or, sorry, Hot Seat Cool Throne.
Should we watch this? I mean, the Mavs are going to win. Yeah, so the Mavs are up 2-0 oh the Atlanta hat is pretty sick the Atlanta hat has a peach it looks like the peach emoji so just an ass on the side and then it's got a UFO in the front with an alien and it says ATL like the AT alien that's cool I would have bought that.
Yeah, these area codes are

very funny. Like I'm looking

at the Cubs

hat and they have like 618 which is like

that's basically all

Cardinals fans. You know what though?

Stay woke. Stay.
This just

hit me. I bet

you New Era did this intentionally.

Pulled them off the market fast.

They were trending. Because the

next time they drop a hat, everyone

is going to buy it immediately because Because they'll be like, this might only be up for a half hour. Because people that jumped on this one, they're probably going to be able to resell those hats.
That's true. The new Beanie Babies.
Yeah, stay very woke on this. Always looking for the new Beanie Babies.
It is funny that we basically are recreating Beanie Babies with NFTs. NFTs.
Yeah, NFTs. Dogecoin.
Pops. Ass.
Milfcoin. CryptoPunks.
CumRocket. Yeah.
Milfcoin. I might buy a Milfcoin.
I purchased several CumRockets at the peak of the Cum bubble, and it popped, deflated, and then I did CumSwaps, and I had to change back and buy more Dogecoin. This is all true, by the way.
These are all real sentences put together. Oh, man.
All right, that game's over. So the Clippers lost.
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My hot seat is Shannon Sharp. Ooh.
Okay. Illegal.
One of the guys in Undisputed broke the law yesterday uh called julio jones julio jones uh was asking him talking to him asked him if he was going to be in atlanta next year julio jones said nah i'm out of there then after that chance i was like oh we're on undisputed right now this is you know being recorded uh according california follows the two-party law where it's like if you're recording someone if you're're on the phone with someone and you're recording it, they have to know about it beforehand. So he broke the law.
He broke the law. Unless it was a work, which some people think it was a work.
I think it was absolutely a work. I think that Julio Jones knew it was coming.
They had discussed it. And then he did a great job of pretending that he didn't know because it's the ultimate out.
Aaron Rodgers is kicking himself right now for not being best friends with Shannon Sharp and taking a phone call in the air because this is

a very effective passive aggressive move that you can use it's so aggressive I yeah such an

aggressive I aggressive move deep down I think it's a work but the things that are on the other

side of the argument is Julio Jones doesn't do media he like doesn't have you when's the last

time you heard a Julio Jones interview he doesn't really do anything with the media so that makes me feel like maybe it wasn't a work i don't know it's got me twisted kudos to shannon for uh breaking the law going to jail but getting great ratings and also should we try it uh yeah with who julio Jones? I'm sorry We've got to think of something. Let's see.
Oh, you know who we'll do it with. You know who we'll do it with because not to steal your cool throne.
Why don't you say your cool throne real quick. PFT will hop around.
My cool throne was just going to be NFL training camp in general. Yes.
And the pictures. Yeah, pictures of players.
What are we getting at here? We're getting at Josh Allen wearing a visor.

Okay, yeah.

So let's try to call Josh Allen.

And see if he's unhappy with his equipment manager.

Yeah, see if the visor is sticking because we know that a visor quarterback will not win a Super Bowl.

Yes, you're the Buffalo Bills.

You should be wearing a hat.

Yeah, so wait, should I say live to tape or not?

No, ask him and then be like, oh, we're live to tape, by the way.

Okay.

I don't know if I've ever called Josh Allen, so I don't know if he'd pick up. Oh, no, we did with the kid.
Yeah. Who was came.
Oh, yeah. Hello.
Hey, hey, Josh, what's up? It's your good friend, Big Cat. Best friend, how you doing? Oh, best friends.
I love it. Hey, dude, I saw you in a visor.
Are you a visor guy now? I flirted with the idea of being a visor guy. I'm looking into it, looking at the statistics.
Tell him no visor quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl, just a heads up. Correct.
So that's what's throwing me off. Okay, so no visor or visor? I like going visor for practice and then for the games I take it off because I don't like sweat.
Okay. Perfect.
Great answer. Also, we're taping you right now.
This was our Mox Shannon Sharp Julio Jones situation. Gotcha.
Okay. Is that illegal? No, I figured you were.
You sound like you had your shit behind you you had your yeah it was my professional podcasting voice yeah we're also in the same state so i think

yeah we're in the same state so it's legal i could i could murder you it's fine yeah we were

nervous so for real like about the visor because we saw it you looked cool like really cool but

the statistics show maybe you know what wear the visor up until the super bowl and then just

Thank you. like about the visor because we saw it you looked cool like really cool but the statistics show maybe you know what wear the visor up until the super bowl and then just take it off for the super bowl yeah i guess i can do that but i am i'm a little superstitious so i don't know i don't know if i can do that it's either all or nothing all right so let's say nothing let's just report the news right now breaking news josh allen visor in practice it looks, but he will be visor-less when we start kickoff the season.
I put good betting odds on that, yes. Okay, love it.
Thank you, Josh. I'm very happy to know that.
It was great to talk to you. Thank you, Josh.
We'll talk soon. We need to get you on again soon.
Well, he's on right now. Oh, he just hung up on me.
That's going to go so viral. That's going to go so viral i actually think it'd be fucking hilarious if shannon sharp went to prison for this and you know what if they do that they should have him call into the show i mean him coming out of jail would be amazing content they've recorded albums via jail just like on the you you are now receiving a collect call from shannon sharp yeah exactly they should just do the show that way and have Skip debate Shannon from prison.

Right.

Fuck yeah.

Yes.

I mean, that's triple the ratings right there.

Yeah.

You want to play this?

You want to take it to its logical extent as almost like a WWE type show?

Send Shannon to jail.

Yes.

Officially on the record,

because I feel like it's going to come out

one way or the other.

What's your official stance?

Fake?

Real or work?

Julio knew that it was going to happen.

I'd say he didn't.

Fuck, man.

And this one's going to happen. I'd say he didn't.
Fuck, man. This one's got me twisted.
I'd say he knew. I'll say he knew.
And you're saying he didn't. I'm saying he didn't.
Yeah, it just feels like it would be kind of fucked up to do that. I mean, we just did it to Josh Allen.
Right. And it was fucked up.
It was very fucked up. It's going to go crazy.
It is going to go crazy viral, not a visor guy. Speaking of crazy viral...
I like that, though. I do like that our stupid-ass take has actually trickled its way up to being a real thing, where now quarterbacks are afraid to wear visors.
Right. He said probably, though.
I think in his mind... I think he was trying to be nice, because in his mind he would have said definitely not, but he said that's probably not going to happen, which to me means he might want to still wear the visor.
Which he should. Break the record.
Break the mold. If he plays in a Super Bowl with a visor, I will kill a debutante.
Just a fact. And then my cool thrown.
Are you okay? No, I was trying to fix the light Fix it though, apparently Coors Light 74 packs 37,000 gallons delivered My cool throne as first reported by Glennard Balls Is Guy Fieri Shout out Guy Huge contract Signed a three year, $80 million contract. I went to Twitter to just get the numbers, and Glennie Balls' tweet has 3,000 retweets and 7,000 favorites.
He actually broke this news. Holy shit.
Is that guaranteed? How does that work at Food Network? I don't know. I don't know.
Is that like NFL numbers, or is this like NBA? It's probably more like NBA. Yeah, that's what I thought too.
When I see three years, 80 million, that's Harrison Barnes numbers. I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what Harrison Barnes got.
I saw it and immediately I was like, did the cap go up? Like, what's going on with this contract? Oh, it's a bargain. Yeah, no, it is a bargain, but it also is like, it's a lot of money.
It's a lot of guaranteed money. By the end of year three, a guy's going to be wanting to renegotiate.
Is it guaranteed against injury?

I don't know. What if he gets

chronic acid reflux and he can't

perform his duty anymore. Too much flavor?

What if he gets his tongue burned?

Right.

God forbid he can't taste anymore.

Do you think he probably has an insurance on his mouth?

Yeah, when you eat pussy like that guy.

If you're the Food Network, though, you've got to have your guy.

You've got to have a star.

If you're going to compete, you need to have a guy.

It's good for the league.

Everyone, a rising tide lifts all boats. Like everyone else.
Next thing you know, Giato De Laurentiis is going to get a new contract. Rachel Ray.
Rachel Ray. Mario Batali.
No, probably not him. Adam, what's his name? The Man vs.
Food. Adam Richmond, different channel.
Alton Brown. Alton Brown, by the way, is controlling all this shit from behind the scenes.

I have a feeling like Alton Brown just sits on a throne of money all day and decides.

He's the capologist for the Food Network.

Chef Tom Colicchio.

Padma.

Padma.

Shout out Padma.

Shout out Padma.

Bonk, bonk.

Yes.

That's fine.

Well, I just shouted her out as a host.

Same.

You shouted her out as a sex icon in your eyes. As a host, as an elegant woman.
Yes. That's fine.
Well, I just shouted her out as a host. Same.
You shouted her out as a sex icon in your eyes. As a host, as an elegant woman.
Yes. Speaking of bonk, my other cool throne was crowdfights.
Oh, dude. There was a huge girls fight in the White Sox game last night.
And a guys fight. And a guys fight.
So was a brawl. It was an all-out brawl.
Did they have bleachers in the South Side? Yeah, there was a moment that the guys ripped each other's shirts off,

and you have to stop the fight then because no one's body was ready for summer.

And it was like, I'd rather take a million punches to the face

than have my bent-over fat gut without a shirt on,

like falling over seats in the outfield.

I always feel like if there's a fight and your shirt gets ripped off, it's okay if you're a little bit overweight if you're pudgy, but you have to have a tattoo. A neck tat or a back tat.
Yeah, if you've got like a shoulder tat, but you're that overweight, then it's like that guy's tough. Rock and roll.
Exactly. That guy lives a fast lifestyle.
He probably just does some crazy shit. What I loved about that guy fight is what you usually see in a woman fight is somebody like, I don't know what it is.
I guess just all your sense of morality and all your sense of modesty goes out the window if you're a woman in a fight. And there's shirts that get ripped off and they don't stop to put them back on in the middle of the fight because you're swinging.
These guys almost had their just dicks pop out in the middle of the fight, but they didn't even think about pulling up their pants.

No.

They're like, I got to take care of business first. Yeah, just slow punches and just trying to...
I don't know. I think you get to a level of most guys get in those fights just hoping that someone will break it up as quickly as possible.
Yep. Because you know in the back of your head, I shouldn't be doing this.
I'm going to do it. do it but please, please security get here quickly so that I can then go home and be like if security didn't show up I would have fucked that guy up there was definitely one point in that fight where the guy who was doing the beat down at the start of the video got pinned against a chair and then you could see he started looking around he's like why isn't this yes someone save

me this fight's over i already won when i hit him twice right and now this is not supposed to be happening to me i almost wonder what would happen if you just if security guards kind of made a pact like we've got a tough job just let them go if they're just if they're slovenly enough and they're drunk enough just let them tire each other out they'll probably become best friends after the Right.

And the fights in stadiums, it's always just whoever's got the high ground every single time if you can if you can get the high ground you will win all the time do you remember that lady from alabama who just dove down like 10 flights of stairs the absolute best the best the best great move uh all right those are great hank yeah good job hank you is hank back? I think Hank is back. Never left.
Yeah. No? A little bit.
No, yeah. Jake, is Hank back? I haven't taken a vacation.
I think it's really just vacation. I think that was a great job.
He did a great job. All right.
Jake gives you a good... Thank you.
Now I can agree that you did a great job. Very cool.
And a new Hank yawn just dropped earlier, too. Oh, shit.
A remix? It was a new style, yeah. You should, next time we get in studio with Sunny Digital, we should definitely get your yawn in the beat.
Sample it. All right, PFD, we did your cool throw, but what's your hot seat? My hot seat is Kony.
Yeah, that's right. Kony 2012? I'm putting Kony on the hot seat this week.
Jake and I just did a little hit in the Stoolstream Stadium booth. And I just, like a flash of light that hit me, like I was touched from the Lord above, I remembered Coney.
Yeah. And we really dropped the ball on Coney.
Yeah. In 2012, there was that video that went around.
We were going to find his ass. He was putting child soldiers out there.
He was basically kidnapping an entire country's worth of youth. And then a YouTube video went and we were all going to find him it was a it was the last time that the whole world was pulling together in this on the same side of the rope and we just we took our eye off the ball and we never found coney and i feel like i i forgot about coney too but now that i've been reawoken to coney i'd like to encourage everybody out there if if you've seen Kony, please report him to the authorities.
And I think that we can find, with reach that this podcast has, I think that we can find his ass. Let's find his ass.
Find Kony 2021. Kony was the original, I think for me, thing that I was generally aware of, but not aware enough or cared enough to actually look into.
Oh, still same. So I saw people talking about Coney, and I didn't know until PFT brought it up 20 minutes ago that he was a bad guy.
Oh, yeah. I thought it was like a good thing.
No. Like a marketing thing.
Yeah, like Coney 2012, like we're going to do this shit. It's like avoid the noise.
He's a bad person. Why were they being like, why was the date attached? I don't remember.
Because we were going to get him in 2012. That was the whole point.
It's like, this is the year of getting Kony. But no, I've never seen anyone else ever had a cancel date hashtag.
Sounds like you're a hater and that you are part of the reason why we never found Kony in 2012. What about when Justine was on the flight? She had a cancel time.
But it wasn't like Justine, 7.06 p.m. when her flight lands.
No, but it was just how Justine landed, when she landed. Right, but that was informative.
Yeah. It was like, what happened? That was such a fucked up thing.
Tony 2012 was like, who is this guy? Looking back on us. Then the guy just went nuts, and I think he got arrested for jacking off in the streets of Austin.
Yeah. For Coney? No.
I wish. I wish, because then his ass would be gotten.
But no. The guy was the guy that was looking now i'm looking for coney now coney's in a world you're gonna be on his side i think i'm on coney's side i don't know let's no jake probably i don't think so don't think you want to be on coney's side you never know that's okay you don't jump into it and then if you were wrong just no Yeah.
You know what? I made some statements on the podcast. And I, now that I've learned more.
Innocent until proven guilty. All right.
That's actually really big right now with like world affairs. Everyone just hopping in and then immediately being like, I've read more about it.
Somebody's got to have the other take. Yeah.
Whoops. Yeah.
What we just did right now was a true crime podcast on Kony. Yeah.
And this is the second to last episode where Hank's like, maybe he's not all that bad. Maybe I've fallen in love with him.
You know what? He's essentially just like a really good coach. Kids have to have role models.
Jake, anything on Kony? Bad guy? I would lean. I don't know all the facts, but I'm going to be an anti-Kony person.
Anti-Kony officially. Not very cool.
I heard Andrew Cicciano was a big Coney guy. I heard he's allowed to have his opinions.
I mean, say what you want about it. He gave out a lot of meals.
He gives kids gifts. I don't know anything about Coney.
It's crazy. I don't really either.
I know it, but I don't. All I know is that we have to get them, Big Cat.
Yeah, we do. We got to get them.
And that's real talk. My cool throne was going to just be pictures of players at training camps.
Just training camp storylines or OTA storylines because the NFL has their rookies and they've got a lot of new free agent additions that are making their debuts wearing the uniform. So basically, you like the rookie take of this guy's already showing signs of leadership.
You get the like, or no, that's usually like a free agent, like a new free agent comes in town. Like this guy has already kind of taken control of his position group is leading the guys through.
Then you get like the rookie take, you get the Joe Burrow take. He's got new teeth and he's coming back from injury.
He looks great. Justin Fields had the, like, he was better than expected.
Yeah. Which was really just a way of the Bears saying he threw it more than 20 yards.
And you also get the rookie take of, like, for some reason, local beat reporters love to find, like, the thickest rookie that they have. A.J.
Dillon. Yeah, A.J.
Dillon. He's not a rookie, but yeah.
But they love to find, like, one thick player. Yeah.
Actually, Justin Fields was kind of like that for the Bears press, too. Look at his ass.
Look at his legs. They're like, look at these thick calves.
Damn. Yeah, they just all need a bonking.
All right, my hot seat is Aaron Rodgers. Well, actually, no, it's the Packers' front office, which wasn't really a surprise, but he went on Kenny Mayne's last sports center and he said uh with my situation uh it's never been about the draft pick picking jordan i love jordan he's a great kid we've had a lot of fun to work together love the coaching staff love my teammates love the fan base in green bay in incredible 16 years it's just kind of about the philosophy and maybe forgetting that it's about the people that makes the things go.
It's about character. It's about culture.
It's about doing their things the right way. I don't, this statement makes no sense.
Does he know what the word love means? Well, not only that, but if you love your teammates and you love your coaching staff, you're not really showing it by like hanging everything in the wind for your teammates and your coaching staff. And I would make the argument that the philosophy and the culture for the Packers.
I'm going to say something nice about the Packers. So everyone be alert.
That's why they have had success is because they are an organization that is always looking forward instead of like, ooh, Band-Aid. Like the old saying, the best time to get a quarterback is when you don't need one.
That's what they did. So Aaron Rodgers has benefited from the Packers' organizational culture, but now he doesn't like it.
I also am getting a lot of really, really desperate vibes from the Packers recently. Not a good look from Matt LaFleur and the Packers.
Just basically saying, Aaron, please come back. We miss you.
Right. Like, you got to treat Aaron Rodgers a little bit like dirt, and he'll stick to you like mud.
I think he's being pushed away from all the over-the-top love that they've been demonstrating to him recently. I also, it's funny.
He's like, I love Jordan Love, and he's a great kid. If they, I saw someone like threw out the idea, hey, trade Jordan Love to the Falcons for Julio Jones.
You don't think Aaron Rodgers would be back wearing the uniform like two seconds later? Yeah, probably would be. Right.
I think I don't necessarily believe him when he says that he loves having Jordan Love on the team. Yeah, but that was a very particular line that he threw out there that was essentially listed.
He's like listed everyone except the front office.

What do you think would happen if the Packers were to be like, you know what?

Fuck Aaron.

If he's not here, we're just going to proceed without him.

And then they have Jordan Love taking like all the first team reps and they're like,

we're just going to proceed like Jordan's going to be our starter going into next season.

I actually think that it would make it more likely for Aaron Rodgers to come back to the team to the team yeah i'd agree because yeah i mean he i don't think he wants to retire and that would basically be like go ahead and retire we're not trading you yeah like throw up some thirst trap pictures on the main account yeah have have aaron start looking at jordan loves quads and be like damn new girls pretty good i gotta get back yeah oh and blake is there too like sir too um all right my other hot seat is uh this fucking fraud uh philadelphia 600 foot sub uh cheesesteak it drove me insane i what if you say that like everyone knows what okay so yeah no well so it was so there was a big deal it was a pretty big it shut down city blocks in philadelphia i don't know who created it uh but they were long were going to break a Guinness Book of World Records for longest cheesesteak. And they had 600 feet worth of cheesesteak.
Literally shut down like three or four blocks. But then when you look at it and you zoom it in, it's just a bunch of regular cheesesteaks, footlong cheesesteaks, stacked up next to each other.

It's ridiculous to say, but you know what?

It's mental health month, so it's okay to not be okay.

It's okay to admit when things make you mad, this made me mad.

The fact that they thought they could get away with this made me very mad.

As well it should.

If you make a 600-foot cheesesteak, it has to be connected. I would also like to add in that 600 feet really isn't that long for a world record.
Two football fields? I would assume that the city of Philadelphia at some point has put together a larger cheesesteak than that. That's honestly like 600 feet is beneath Philadelphia.
They can do so much better. I know.
I hope that we get a hero who's like, no pun intended, who's like,

you know what? The city of

Philadelphia deserves better. I'm making

a thousand foot cheesesteak and it's all one

piece of bread. It's just conveyor

belt oven and just

slowly make it. What the

hell is Jeff Bezos doing with all

that money that he guaranteed the city of Philadelphia

for his Amazon HQ2?

That's what I would do if I was a billionaire. I would

just travel to various towns and

give them world records. Yeah, just make the biggest

Thank you. that money that he guaranteed the city of philadelphia for his amazon hq2 that's what i would do if i was a billionaire i would just travel to various towns and give them world records yeah just make the biggest thing so i would yeah and also okay 600 feet with it's a it's a perfectly fine cheesesteak and they all jalapenos and they all are like massive different bread would would there be like is somebody going to eat this? Yes.

Well, the way they- I'm looking at the guy's Twitter and-

One guy?

He posted a video of the aftermath.

Everyone ate it.

Because they made six, all they did was just make-

600 subs.

That's just a Tuesday in Philadelphia.

Like, if you go to a pizza place in Philadelphia or a cheesesteak place, I guarantee you Gino's

and Pat's makes 600 cheesesteaks in a day.

Yeah, honestly, it wasn't even close to looking like a sandwich.

No, I'm very mad about it. It has bothered me all day, and I need justice.
So, Philadelphia, please step up. Yeah, and we're not blaming Philadelphia.
No, no, no, no, no. Philadelphia is...
They're probably angrier than we are right now. Oh, they disavowed.
They disavowed this guy. The only record he set was that it was basically the most blocks taken up by a cheesesteak-related incident.
That's the world record. That's also surprising.
Shut down. I would have thought there would have been riots that had taken up.
Yes. Someone tweeted me.
It was like, I live around the corner, and it was a pain in the ass that day. Yeah.
So that's the only... Give them that record.
Nothing else. My cool throne is our good friend, friend of the program, recurring guest, Spencer Hawes.
Because he's back. He's playing in the big three.
Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, he announced it on his Instagram yesterday.
Very exciting. What team is he on? I don't know if he's been assigned a team yet, but.
I think it's Seattle something. Supersonics? Seattle.
The Needles. The Needles.
The Needles. Needle Exchange.
I'm very excited, though, because this actually is a reason for us to be rooting and watching the Big Three is to watch Spencer. I like that, yeah.
So we will get a jersey of that team. We will be diehard that team and no other team.
I take that back. The first words of his Instagram post said Seattle Washington, but that was just where he was.
The Seattle Washington. Where he was posting from.
That would be very confusing. The ball hogs.
He's on the ball hogs. Brian Scalabrini, Leandro Barbosa.
Oh. Also part of the team.
Okay. So two out of three recurring guests? Yeah.
Do they only have three players? No, I think they're four or five on a team. So I'm excited for him.
Coach Rick and Barry. He's back.
Okay. He's back.
So this will be great. I want to see Spencer win the Big Three Championship.
Now, if Spencer wins the Big Three Championship, we will be celebrating like it was one of our teams winning the Big Three Championship. Oh, there will be a banner raised somewhere.
Yes. In here, in this office, in this studio.
Probably one in Spencer's house. We will give him a banner night.
We will give him confetti. We'll make him a 600-foot sub.
We'll do everything for Spencer Hawes. We're ride or die.
I mean, they're not going to win with Brian Scalabrini and Leandro Bumbo. Has he come on the show one time? No, he's been on the show many times.
Yeah. In person, Grit Stream, other times.
Exit interview. We went to his house.
I know. I was trying to think back.
He made us a great salmon dinner, Hank. I'm saying.
I know we're very close with him. I love Spencer.
We went to his house. I know.
I'm just... I was trying to think back.
He made us a great salmon dinner hang. I'm saying.
I know he's... We're very close with him.
I love Spencer. We DM on Instagram.
I was just thinking for the listeners that, you know, maybe they're like, wait. I feel like we bring him up a fair amount, though.
Every time we talk about Seattle, it's basically like, oh yeah, we got that one friend in Seattle. We keep him in the conversation.
Yeah, we talked about him on Monday when we just said how miserable it is to be a Mariners fan. Which, shout out to people in Seattle.
I heard you. Twice in 2016 you guys had him on.
There we go. Twice in 2016.
Grit stream. Well, you know what? We'll have him on again because we've got to figure out.
Spencer? Wait, no. He already announced he's on the Ball Hogs, right? Yep.
I'm looking at the other teams right now. He's got a shot maybe we call spencer right before and we get him to say that he's sick of being on the ball hogs and he's going to the cowboys i like that yeah okay we'll do that uh jake your hot seat cool throne hot seat is georgetown uh pft tweeted this out earlier max scherzer was just tossing in the outfield while georgetown was having the graduation of their attention, they work hard for four years, just Scherzer's taking it away from them.
So you're siding with the private school kids. Interesting.
No. And they're $60,000 a year tuitions.
Wait, so you're saying that he was upstaging them. I think that's a cool thing.
You're saying that they should be paying attention to the speakers at the graduation. Yeah.
And Scherzer stole their spotlight. But I think it'd be cool to be like, oh, yeah, when I graduated, Scherzer was throwing.
He's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
That's cool for them. Sounds like you don't like it.
Sounds like you want to respect higher education. Well, it's also Georgetown, the rival.
How important was your graduation day to you? It was nice. Yeah.
I was so hungover. I did not want to be at mine.
I was miserable. Miserable.
I wanted to get it over with. I remember being so...
Some dude who no one had heard of did the commencement speech, and I was just like, this fucking sucks. I'm so hungover.
A mathematician gave mine. Yeah.
A mathematician. I think mine was a Broadway guy.
I don't know. I can't remember.
Mine's going to be lit. Yours is going to be lit, Hank.

And then Scott Van Pelt did the Madison commencement

the next semester.

I was like, what the fuck?

No, but I think it's cool.

There are schools that should go out of their way to do this,

to just have Max Scherzer throw bullpen sessions

at their commencement ceremony.

Yeah.

What are you looking at?

I was looking at who did our commencement.

Jeff Glor from CBS Evening News evening news oh wow did you guys forget um uh cool throne as i rushed to look that off yeah whoops sorry it obviously meant a lot to you yes it did it was nice having my family that's what i remember yes that is uh He just rolled his eyes so hard. He rolled them out of the back of his head.
Cool throne is Africa. The NBA.
Yeah, Coney. We found him already.
The NBA has formed a new entity, and some of their investors are some of your Bulls guys. Joe Kunoa.
Oh, nice. Lowell Dang.
Grant Hill, Dikembe Mutombo. So they're doing what? NBA Africa.
Oh, nice. Grow the grow the game that is awesome so they're gonna have like different countries with different teams i'm not positive shams broke the news yesterday so okay if i get more information i'll be sure to i love it i hope akon's country gets a team yep akon probably is just spearheading this entire thing i hope kevin bacon is part of it they are up there yeah great movie you was a great movie.
You think that one holds up? No, I think that was a movie that when I was a kid I was like, this is a great movie. And I'm like, no it's not.
Yeah, I don't think that one in today's day and age. No, probably That could be a Mel Rushmore topic.
Movies that don't hold up? Yeah. That we thought were awesome? Yeah.
I mean, number one for me The Net, Sandra Bullock. Ooh.
Great movie. But now it's one of those that you look back on, and it's the first stages of the internet, and they get everything wrong.
Yeah. About the internet.
It's actually very funny. I saw a clip the other day of Good Morning America from 1996, and Brian Gumbel and Katie Kirk were like, what's this at with a circle symbol? Yeah.
Like, what do you do? You just talk to people online? The email address. Yeah.
The opening scene in the net was Sandra Bullock sitting in her house ordering pizza online, and then it shows up, and you're supposed to be like, what a loser she is that she doesn't even interact with anybody outside of her home. Right.
It's like, wait. No, that sounds's friday night that's exactly correct actually what the internet has done for me yes yes um all right let's get to our interview with mugsy bogues before we do that pft you got a quick word all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with re's and Hershey's.
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Here he is Muggsy Bogues. okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is former nba player uh probably one of the top fan favorites of all time it is mugsy bogues i actually want to start there i don't know if you saw this mugsy but yesterday you were trending on twitter did you see that oh no i did not what was i trending about you were trending on twitter because Did you see that? Oh, no, I did not.
What was I trending about? You were trending on Twitter because there's a prompt that some Twitter handles will do where they basically just tweet a logo and they say, first person you think of when you see this logo. And it was the Charlotte Hornets logo.
And if you get mentioned enough, you start trending. And I actually agree with that, that when I see the Charlotte Hornets old logo, I think Muggsy Bogues.

So credit to you.

Well, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

I don't know how I should look at that.

It makes you feel older.

Makes you feel old.

Well, I think you're still relevant.

It just means like when you see that logo, like you're so intertwined with that image that like when I see that, I'm just like, that's Muggsy's logo. You are the Hornet.
I appreciate that. I do feel like a little sting, a little bee.
Yes. I love it.
So Muggsy, you were a personal hero of mine growing up. Just like a little back story.
When I was 12 and everybody else grew and I didn't, my dad went to Blockbuster and rented me a copy of Don't Tell Me No, the Muggsy Bogues story. Came back and my dad was like, see, you can still make it as a professional athlete.
Can you give my dad a refund? Because that wasn't true at all. Well, at the time, you know, he was giving you inspiration to believe that you can become whoever you want.
And look at you, you know, it has all sorts of elements that comes with the game of basketball. And here it is.
You get hosting your own show. So you got to look.
You got to be credited. You got to get credit to your dad.
Yeah. Yeah.
You never know. It's like that song, like God bless the broken road.
If I was six feet, two inches tall, like I might not be here. I might be in the NBA wasting my life.
Hey, you know, hey, we all have a journey and, you know, and we all have a path to follow and we found our way and we land where we're supposed to. And this is where you're supposed to be.
Yeah. How do you think that your game would translate to today's NBA with a style change that's happened in the last, you know, like 15, 20 years? Well, I think any NBA player feel like they can play in any era, especially in this era where it's not as physical, but you got a lot of skill set that has never been showcased before.
You got seven footers now bring the basketball up the court and shooting the ball behind the three where back in our day, it was, you know, a seven footer was playing with his back toward the basket. So the games has evolved in that regard, and the athletes have so as well.
But, again, you know, skill set is skill set. People love the fast type of tempo game right now, and they love to see a lot of scoring.
And it kind of takes away a little bit from the defensive aspect of it to where it is not as physical as it once was. Yeah.
I assume you're watching the NBA playoffs. Who's your favorite team to watch or your favorite player to watch? Well, I love watching basketball.
You know, I love watching it all. Of course, you know, I got some unbiased.
You know, Steph Curry is no longer there. And, of course, Chris Paul is still there in terms of my Wake Forest connection.
But I just like the game. I love, of course, the LeBron James and the ADs and Westbrook and so forth.
But I'm also liking what Milwaukee is doing. You know, I like the addition of Drew Holiday and with P.J.
Tucker. And I think Miami will give them a big fight, a big challenge for them to get prepared for where they're going to have to be ready for going forward with the Brooklyn Nets.
So I like what's happening in the East and in the West. I mean, it's wide open.
The Lakers, unfortunately, are going through their struggles. But I think they'll bounce back tonight.
I'm expecting them to come out the West. So you mentioned Steph Curry Steph Curry uh obviously you knew him as a little kid is it wild to see him like playing and dominating the NBA now it is crazy but I've gotten used to it but you know knowing him as a child as a kid um and you know just knowing his passion for the game you never even thought that he'd be at this level, but you got to credit to him, his parents, I mean,

his dedication to it and, you know,

his resilience in terms of knowing what he was capable of doing on that

basketball court, even though people was doubting him.

And here it is, you know, two-time, you know, one unanimous MVP,

two-time MVP, a three-time champion.

I mean, that's within that breath, you know, it's hard to say. But just to be here to witness this, I'm proud of him.
I actually saw a story that Steph Curry said you were his favorite player growing up, so you should take credit for his entire career. Well, you know, we've been around each other for so long.
You know, me and Dale played 11 years together, and Steph and my kids grew up together, and we were really close friends, I mean, close in that family. But just seeing him, and he saw a small guy out there pursuing his dreams, and, you know, he was considered small stature-wise, you know, by not being muscular in that sort of way and just being so thin.
So he was looked upon as a small guy. So he had some kind of similarities that he can relate to.
And he took advantage of. So since you were his favorite player, did he ever want to play against you one-on-one? Did you ever like show him a thing or two when he was a little kid? Of course.
We played against each other several times. I mean, the way he was, he was a gym rat.
He just loved being in the gym. I mean, we was nine years with Charlotte and two years with Toronto.
So, of course, Steph and I had many chances or many times of playing one-on-one or two-on-two with Steph and him, Seth, and my son. And we had a lot playing on the Lord Nerf ball, the Lord nerf yeah uh hoop we had a lot of good hooping times on those uh on that time so uh you know i'm just happy to see the young fella doing what he's doing do you think uh they'll ever be an nba player that is your height five three i mean it's kind of crazy i think you know people who are maybe younger who don't remember when you were playing, just how remarkable it was how skilled you were to make the NBA in a league where now it feels like every guy's 6'3 or above.
Do you think we'll ever see that again? Or are you truly one of a kind? Well, I hope not. I hope we, in my day's time, I'm able to witness it.
And that let me know that a kid that has that same dream as I did as a kid, believing, regardless of what anyone was saying, that he can take his skills to the highest level, which is the NBA. And so I'm waiting for that 5-3 or 5-2 guy to come along.
The game has been spread around the world now. You know, it's over in India, it's in China.
So it's in countries that where, you know, diminutive players have been introduced to the game. So hopefully, you know, even seeing the States, that somebody could, you know, take on that challenge and believe that they can.
And because it all comes down to your skill set. Yeah.
I think there was a player, was it Arkansas State this year? That was 5'4", 5'3", 5'4", he was pretty good? Yeah, Don Al Rogers. Yeah.
Okay. UMBC.
UMBC, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, so was there ever any, like, small advantage that you might have? Maybe it was somebody that was, like, overlooking you because of your stature or was there anything about your game that at a certain point, yeah, it's not traditional, it's not how everybody else looks, but you were able to find an advantage out of being closer to the ground? Well, the game is the game.
You know, how you impact the game is always going to be at the forefront. And regardless of your position, you've got to have that skill set.
And fortunate for me, I was a point guard, you know, I was small in stature, but I understood the, all the, you know, the nuances that came with that leadership and with that responsibility of being a point guard, you know, how to run your team, how to make your teammates better at the same time, how to get your shot off and having. And having that understanding and being able to not be taken advantage of what people looked at you as a disadvantage in terms of your height, trying to post you up and all that, you know, you're able to withstand that by your defensive presence, your knowledge of the game, being able to stay on the floor and being able to stay on the floor and have success against the ones that call the best and for me if you're the best and you have success against the best you need to be included with the best and that was a mindset that I always took on the court so having that understanding I was able to you know allow myself to look to be recognized as a point guard and being able to climb the ladders at each levels and I I think a lot of small guards, you know, they try to play the game differently.
And trying to play the game as a big guard, you know, sometimes you can get overlooked because they feel like a guard is a dime a dozen. They can find somebody else who can do that same thing that you're trying to do.
And for me, I wanted to change the game. And the only way I can do that is defensively,ly make your opponent think make your opponent have a difficult times getting to his uh getting to the offense and understanding that's how it all starts so having that understanding that would really allow me to climb the ladder as far as i did the it it must have also been a benefit in like the public sphere where if you have a guy who's six six or seven feet tall tall, everyone can, you know, you're not anonymous.
Everyone knows that, you know, when you walk in a room and everyone expects you to be a basketball player where you have the reverse. No one expects you to be a basketball player.
You can kind of blend in and then you're like, oh, yeah, I'm a 14-year NBA vet, no big deal. You know, by that time, they kind of, your face stands out.
Yeah. But, no, I mean, I mean that's easy you know you kind of just blends in because no one recognized or looked at you as a basketball player you know because of your stature you know that's just not the case you know the game is supposed to be meant for a taller player so you know you can get away with a lot of things in that regards but But, you know, once you're on that court, you know, for me,

that's where it all came down to gaining respect.

Wanting to play the game like and be respected as anyone else who played the

game as a point guard at that position.

And I think that's what allowed me to be the guy that I was able to.

You know, we all impacted differently.

Spud Webb impacted the game differently.

Michael Adams, the little Nate Robinson as well. So we have some guys guys that's out there but we just have a different way of impacting it the the uh i think you also had like the perfect uh confluence of events where your name which obviously it's not mugsy you know your god-given name is tyrone but your name mugsy bogues is probably the coolest name out there the Hornets were a newer franchise the starter jacket was the coolest starter jacket without a doubt and so that coolest and then you had grandmama Larry Johnson who was the coolest player all like together which kind of took it to another level did everyone were you did you have teammates that didn't know your real name would do they think your name was Muggsy? Well, a couple of them didn't know my real name.
Yeah, a couple of them, especially the new guys. They just knew your name was Muggsy Bogues throughout the entire time.
So no one really knew my name, especially my middle name as well. But the true ones knew my name was Tyrone, my really true, true close friend.
They knew my name was Tyrone. But, you know, Muggsy has been, you know, resonated for so long.
Many people, a lot of folks don't even know my name is Tyrone. So that's something that, you know, become, you know, a big question for people when they realize my name is Tyrone as opposed to not Muggsy.
Muggsy is such a great name. It's a perfect name.

It's like it's either you as a basketball player

or you basically could just be transported into like 1920

with a Tommy gun in a pinstripe suit.

Like you're a Dick Tracy villain, Muggsy Bogues.

Well, you know, I took a picture with a pinstripe suit on

and my AC, well, that was the ACC.

They took a photograph of me with my hat on,

my pinstripe suit, with my gun,

with the pimp car behind.

It was amazing.

It was amazing.

It was one of my highlights of my college career.

I was wondering if you know what your stat line was

in Space Jam against the Monstars.

No, what was it?

I don't know either.

I was hoping that you would keep track of that.

I feel like that's something that should be available,

but I couldn't find it anywhere online. No, I mean, I know we were smashing them quite a bit.
Yeah. I don't know until we lost our powers.
So, you know, once we, you know, when they took, we had that power, that monster, he was amazing. Yeah.
He was like a vice grip. What was that like when you were playing against the Monstars, when you were filming it? Because that was like, I think that's the first movie to ever combine animation and basketball in the same thing.
They probably were figuring a little bit of it out as they went along. How did they tell you how to attack a defense of Monstars that weren't necessarily right in front of you? Or maybe they were there.
I don't know. Maybe it was a real thing.
That's too many tricks. I can't get those secrets out like that.
I mean, that's the behind-the-scenes type of thing that goes on. And Warner Brothers, they do an amazing job of having that type of competition and how they're able to go against one another without even getting hurt.
So, I mean, that was amazing. But no, I mean, it's all computer.

You know, it's all computerized.

So, you know, they know how to get the animation with the computer.

So they put it all together.

So it wasn't nothing difficult.

We had to go against the Looney Tunes, per se.

So I have to ask this question.

I know it's a terrible question to ask.

But is the story about Michael Jordan, is that real? Him trash-talking you to the point where it got in your head? That one is like, let's set it straight right now. I mean, it's been set straight.
I mean, nothing to set it straight. I mean, you just think about what you just said.
I mean, I played seven more years after that series. That's true.
That's true. Was he the meanest trash talker, though, that you played against? No.
I mean, for me, my position was point guard, so we didn't play against Michael was a two guard. So Gary Prey was my position, so he was more or less the trash a lot of get it going in that regard.
But, yeah, Michael talked a lot, but it was more or less against the guys he was playing against a lot, the two guys. Yeah.
I mean, for him, I mean, somebody said he was supposed to call me a midget and I missed a shot or whatever and it ruined my career. I mean, that's crazy.
I mean, after that series, I hadn't had surgery because I was hurting on that series. And I had knee surgery.
And then after my knee surgery, you know, I kind of missed the entire year afterwards. And then came back the following year.
And so my numbers that went down and I guess they kind of try to combine what happened in the series and me just coming back into the lead. And I was probably 10 years already in my career about it.
So Michael Jordan made you get surgery. That's the story.
No, no, no. I wasn't even supposed to play in the series.
There we go. But, you know, the toughness that, you know, because I got hurt just before the season ended.
Got hurt against Atlanta. And we had another two weeks before the playoffs started.
And, you know, I was projected really not to play. But, you know, me, I had to play.
I had bone on bone. Didn't have any cartilage in my knees.
But, you know, I found a way to make it work, to get through it. But after it was all said and done, I had to have surgery.
You were one of the quickest players that I've ever seen play. And your crossover was insane.
Go look up some Muggsy Bogues highlights of how fast he was laterally. Did you ever actually injure anybody by crossing them up? Well, you made quite a few people fall.
But, you know, I don't know if they just actually didn't get back up. You know, they fell.
And it was little embarrassing moment. But, no, I don't think I hurt anybody to the guards of where they, you know, their career was over.
Also, we're big fans of the picture of Aaron Judge and Jose Altuve that they always show on TV whenever they, you know, those two play against each other. I think people forget about the picture of you and Manute Bull next to each other.
That poster was everywhere in my high school. It was like that Altuve picture on steroids.
Did you know how iconic that image was going to be when you were getting your picture taken? Absolutely not. You know, Nudie and I, Manute, I mean, that was a me resting power.
He was a hilarious individual. Loved to laugh, loved to joke, tell about how he killed lines with a spear and so forth.
But, you know, my first year we was together at Washington Bullets. And this was before, you know, teams started flying private.
You know, we had to fly a commercial and go through the airport because you imagine Moses Malone on one side, Manute on the other side, and me in the middle walking through the airport. You know, cameras was out.
Manute was one of the fans who always said, no shoot, no shoot, telling the people don't shoot. Then they feel like they was threatened.
Like, what? Then he said, no, you can shoot. He was afraid.
Yeah, so speaking of teammates, like who was your favorite teammate? We obviously about del curry and manute bowl but who was your favorite teammate uh both on and off the court to play with i have too many of them you know you mentioned to del and manute and you know larry johnson alonzo morning moses alone may he rest in peace. I mean, gosh, Vince Carter, Trace McGrady is Charles Oakley.
I mean, Johnny Newman, Rex Chapman. I mean, how long? I could just keep on going down the line.
There's too many guys that we still got great bonds, and we still keep in contact with each other. Of course, the David Wingate, youate you know and i played high school as well as the nba i mean reggie williams i mean you got so many guys so it's not just one i'm grateful and thankful for that how intimidating all right so so you listed a bunch of guys how intimidating uh was charles oakley uh until like maybe he loosened up and and you guys became.
Well, he was never intimidated, you know, in terms of me. I mean, we don't know become that way, especially where we come from.
You know, Oak and I, I mean, he just understands people. And you knew Oak was an enforcer.
You know, he was the type of guy that he just didn't, you know, back down from anything. And when you plan against him, you knew that.
I mean, you knew he had his teammates back regardless of any situation. I don't care if you're friends with him or not.
He got his teammates back. And until you become his teammates and then vice versa.
So that's a guy that you love and you go to love going to war with because he's going to keep it 100. And no matter what the situation is, if it's wrong, indifference, or whatever, he's on your side because that's just the loyalty he has with you when you're part of him.
And I love that. I like that.
Did you ever play as Muggsy Bogues in NBA Jam? In NBA Jam? Yeah, I think you were like, if I remember, the team was Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning were the two guys that they gave you to start. And that was the best team that they had.
Like by far, the Hornets were the best team in NBA Jam. But then I think you were the first substitute that you could make, put Muggsy in, and you were actually electric to play with because you were so fast.
Oh, that's the first time I ever heard of that. I never knew anything about that.
We got to get you an NBA Jam game. Yes.
I thought I was already in the NBA Jam. Let's see, which one? I'm going to look up the Charlotte Hornets team.
I thought I was always in the NBA Jam. I want to say it was, wasn't it Larry Johnson and – And Zoe.
And Zoe. And I want to say Glenn Rice might have been in the tournament edition.
Yeah, you were in the TE. You were in the tournament.
Which actually was a better version. It was better because you could get on fire and you could do better dunks.
Way better version. Way better version.
So, yeah, we got to make sure that that's – Yeah, yeah, because, yeah, I mean, you guys educate me now on about the games that – about this NBA Jam and the team and different versions of it. All right, so I had one last question.
We have to ask this because we're talking basketball. MJ or LeBron? MJ or LeBron? Oh, I guess this is a GOAT question? Yeah.
I mean, we wouldn't be doing our job as journalists if we didn't ask you that. Yeah, I mean, that's easy.
I mean, MJ always is going to be at the forefront. You know, LeBron is doing amazing things, and LeBron has, I mean, will continue to do amazing things.
But as a basketball, you know, ice, analysts, all that mj is my guy okay good answer you're never going to go wrong saying that because like lebron could always like his story's not done yet so you can always say he can get there but he's not there yet well it's not for me he can't It's the skill set. And it's the skill set that separates them from me.

And MJ has no deficiencies when it comes to the game of basketball

on both ends of the floor.

What about you versus LeBron one-on-one?

Full-size court, who wins?

Oh, it's going to be a battle. It's going to be a battle.
be a battle yeah you know it ain't gonna be that easy for lebron i think you can take him it's gonna be i know i can it's gonna be a battle do you how often do you still play not much you know a little shooting around here and there in the backyard that's basically it no running up and down yeah that's it yeah could you dunk once upon a time oh what was your vertical down. Yeah.
And that's it. Yeah.
Could you dunk? Once upon a time. Ooh.
What was your vertical leap? 44. Damn.
Whew. That's crazy.
Yeah. A helping athlete.
Yeah. Ping pong player, wrestler.
Ooh, ping pong player. We got to get you up to New York and play a little ping pong up here.
We got a pretty good ping pong player too. Yeah.
Oh, really? His name's Jake.

Yeah.

I'm pretty much undefeated.

He's the best in the office, yeah.

Same as I.

Same as you.

Oh, okay.

We need to get that game going.

That would be on the Play Barstool app.

That would be fun.

Absolutely.

I got a nice little championship trophy when I was playing.

City champ.

Oh, really?

That's sick. Hell yeah.
All right, so wait. Give me a last, last question for me.
Give me your NBA finals in the winter. I'm going to go with, I know this is going to be crazy.
People got Brooklyn going to be in the finals, but I got Milwaukee in the finals for me. And believe it or not, some kind of way, I think the Clippers are going to wind up in the east, I mean east i mean the west whoa that's spicy let's hope they don't go down too old tonight because that would be tough it will be tough it will be tough it will be tough i mean dallas you know considering what happened to them last year i know they kind of remember that and i'm quite sure they got a little edge but they still home court advantage right now now.
But I still believe, you know, the Clippers can, you know, overcome. And then at the end of the set and done, Milwaukee's walking away with it.
So you believe in playoff P? Well, it ain't about playoff P. I believe in Paul George.
I believe in Paul George. I believe in Kawhi Leonard, as well as addition to Rondo and Serge Ibaka.
So with Ty Lue at the Helms, I think he can get those guys to that point where they can start playing consistent basketball. So I'm holding on to that and believe that they can still get the job done.
By the way, I've got to correct myself. Glenn Rice was on the heat in the NBA Jam, so that was wrong.

I remember playing with him because I'd go in the corner and

shoot threes. Muggsy was the third guy

and then Kendall Gill was also in an

alternate version of the game.

So it was you, Grandma Ma, and

Zoe. Those were the big three on the

Hornets. And as a

fellow short person myself...

That's what I thought because I know I was

on the mural. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you're definitely in the game for sure. I just want to say thank you as a short king.
You are actually the short king, I would say. And so you're an inspiration to those of us.
I think I do. I can accept that title.
Yeah. Where do you draw the line? What do you consider to be a short human being uh i don't draw a line you know your height your height your height is what it is i mean i don't care how tall you can be three feet tall you're still short and uh you know you just your height you're just shorter than me that's it or you know you're five four you're just a little one inch taller than me you know you're still but you're still short That's the correct answer.
Yes. I like it.
Yes. I love it.
Well, Muggsy, thank you so much. We appreciate it.
And anytime you're in New York City, we want you to play some ping pong. That would be awesome.
It's on. I got you guys.
Appreciate you having me on too. All right.
Love it. Thank you, Muggsy.
Thanks, guys. All right.
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Now here he is, is mankind.

Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Mick Foley.
He is a wrestling hall of famer, hardcore legend. He has a documentary out on Sunday night.
Get excited for it. It will be the entire career of Mick Foley, the illustrious career of mick foley thank you for joining us we're excited to have you on uh i want to start with an easy question how are you feeling physically right now because i saw a story that you did 10 push-ups the other day and you felt like you got hit by a truck yeah that was uh i guess you called me a covid long hauler i even though i was putting on quite a bit of weight i was keeping up where i could do 40 44 or four i was trying to hone in on 50 covid hit and then i thought okay try a couple weeks after i got over covid and i was like six six push-ups where every one of them hurt like it wasn't even a matter of getting fatigued like you usually do

as you continue getting more and more fatigued.

Everything just hurt.

My joints hurt.

So that's going to be a continued struggle for me

to try to get back to where I was before I got COVID.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So what were you doing before you got COVID?

Did you feel like you were in good health,

or did you feel the effects of having a decades-long wrestling career well i always feel those effects um i'm always a little a little worse for the wear but i had my hip replaced and my right hip and my right knee and wow that made a world of difference 2017 so even with everything else happening, I still feel better than I did 10 years ago or two or even 15, 20 years ago. Oh, that's great.
So the documentary on Sunday night, I'm sure you will get into this, but I, uh, your career and the way you wrestled, uh, were there times when you would sit down and it's like, all right, here's what we're going to do this match.

And you're like, hey, you know what?

I don't feel like getting my ass kicked for like an hour tonight and like going through maximum pain because all your best matches, which you might have the most legendary match of all time with Undertaker, are essentially how much pain can Mick Foley go through for the fans amusement? Yeah, some of them were that way, but we found that there were other ways to get great reactions. You know, there were some moves that simply cannot be feigned.
You know, that what you see is what you get. And they were taking their toll.
Whereas like the salad tongs applied to the genitalia. They get a lot of bang for that buck, you know.
In one case, it was a nation of domination, and none of the guys wanted to take the salad tongs because they were going out to a place called the stayout. I was like, guys, it's the easiest reaction in the world, and I think I talked D'Lo Brown into doing it.
All you have to do is run in you know and the crowd came unglued and the next night they all wanted to take it so there's ways we're lucky that we have different ways of reaching the finish line so as much as I took pride in those you know all out wild brawls there were ways of getting great reactions that didn't, you know,

have as much physical fallout.

I remember, for example, Triple H has, you know,

it's a fairly well-known, a large nose, right?

A nose.

And one night at what we called a tent town, these are small venues along the East Coast in Massachusetts and Connecticut, I threw Triple H with a pair of salad tongs off the top rope by his nose. So clearly, you know, you're begging credulity, if that's the right way of saying to say it you know like that's not something that you're going to see in a ufc contest for example but in our world it made perfect sense and they got a great reaction yeah and so jim ross came up to me i think that was 97 and he's you know i don't do a great jim ross he's like you know yeah mack i'm sorry we're putting you through all these uh anything goes matches we're going to make sure that uh we stop doing that so your body can recuperate a little bit i said do you want me to recuperate book me in as many of these matches with triple h as you possibly can because we were getting incredible reactions while not putting ourselves on the line and of, of course, later we would.
You know, I had a couple legendary matches with Triple H where there were no salad tongs. You know, like there were no throws off the top rope by the nose or anything of that nature.
But, yeah, you could get great reactions without doing those things to yourself. Yeah, that's what I always loved about like there was always a mixed um occasionally of like lightheartedness in it almost like a slapstick element to it but then on the other hand you could go out there and you could take the best bumps of anybody in the wwe may perhaps ever like probably a top three guy when it comes to that at least uh was there a point because you are kind of like an unconventional wrestler, was there a point that you realized that Vince saw something in you and that he respected you enough where you might be able to get that, you know, to that point in your career where you could hold the crown? Yeah, well, there was one very fortuitous statement made to me by Gerald Briscoe when he came in on my first day.
I had what was known as a dark match, non-televised match against Aldo Montoya a couple weeks earlier, but I was getting ready to do my first raw match followed by a run-in where I was going to attack the Undertaker. So this is kind of a make or break moment.
And Gerald asked me if there was something I could do to the Undertaker.

And I said I could drop an elbow off the TV truck.

He said, we know you do a lot of these things.

There may come a time when we ask you to do one of those things.

But until that time, please don't do those things.

And that saved me. I mean, I was able to use the big moves, you know, in moderation.
And that helped me a lot over the years that I was with WWE. So you bring up Undertaker, obviously one of the most legendary matches of all time.
The King of the Ring, 1998, one of the first hell in the cells what's your biggest

like memory from that i know that you you went through a ton of different injuries but was there a moment after where you're like holy shit did we nail that was that did you know in the moment that this is going to be a match that people truly do talk about to this day it wasn't until the next day.

Undertaker really made it a

point to take care of me that next day.

And talk about to this day? It wasn't until the next day. Undertaker really made it a point to take care of me that next day.
And we watched our match. I don't know if it was in catering at that time.
It probably wasn't catering back then. And when the match was over, the entire room stood up and gave us a standing ovation.
And I've seen standing ovations when people come back through the curtain i've never seen a standing ovation in catering so that was when it dawned on me that we had done something special so afterwards they all are just standing up this the next day and they're like holy shit that was like at the end of a movie when people clap and everyone's moved wow or maybe it was when a plane lands and everyone's glad they're alive yeah i love that yes i mean you should you probably had that feeling of i'm glad i'm alive after going you know through the you know cell thumbtacks everything yeah that was rough but i i guess it uh you know it says something i was at the show the next day and even had a short match and then uh Mr. McMahon sent me home for four days to recuperate.
Oh, four days. Wow.
That's beautiful. That's unbelievable.
But it's new. It is new.
Did you get a standing ovation when you saved WWE, when you took the title from The Rock? And, I mean, maybe you can tell the story a little bit better than I can, but what essentially happened was there was I think it was Nitro, right? WCW had Nitro on at the same time as Monday Night Raw, and the announcer would try to dick over WWE by spoiling the result. He announced that you were going to take the crown from The Rock, and then I think 600,000 switched over to watch you so it totally screwed them over and they never recovered from that and then wwe was king from that point on did you at least get like a thank you note from vince uh i don't know he clearly was appreciative of what i did i don't remember there being a thank note.
The best way to thank somebody is in their check, you know. So I think he took pretty good care of me.
And that was a big night. You know, WCW was live in front of 48,000 people at the Georgia Dome.
We had a taped show at the Worcester Center, which is a 7,000, 8,000-seat arena. So they should have had a huge victory.
And instead, it turned out to be a huge victory for us, not just that night, but it was considered to be one of the biggest nights in the history of the Monday Night Wars. Have you ever sneezed around Vince McMahon? We always ask any of our wrestling guests that question.
No, but I know that I went into his food tray, and I used to have the pull where Vince orders the best of everything. And so when he would go back, when he would go out, leave his office to go to the curtain, behind the curtain, to produce the shows, It was a given that I could go in there and just forage for whatever I wanted, the finest cut of beef, you know, the finest chicken filet.
And so I thought I still had that pull when I was rummaging through his food tray. And the look on his face, he accused me of finger effing his food i was gonna say he's a all-time germaphobe he could not have been happy to watch you finger fucking his food oh no thanks for filling in the blank there uh no he wasn't he wasn't yeah but he's a hugger good hugger yeah firm hugger oh.
That's nice. Firm hugger, like trying to suck the life out of you, hugger? No, just enough.
Just enough. Just enough to let you know if he wanted to kill you with his bare hands, he could.
Yeah. The firmest hugger I ever had was from adult film legend, Christy Canyon.
Ooh. Just wouldn't let me go, yeah.
Wow. Was she trying to wrestle you? No, it's just her way of displaying affection, I believe.
I love that. I'll have to put that on my bucket list for hugs.
Bonk. This might be a dumb question, but do you consider yourself to be the greatest wrestler of all time who ever wore a shirt? To ever the cover-up i oh wow i had never been asked that i would have to think you'd have to compile a list of wrestlers who wore shirts and see where i am on that list i believe yeah i thought you were gonna say the greatest wrestler ever i was like brother i'm not even in the top 50 but don't let that stop you from watching the biography though but I'd have to say

I'd be high, high on that list of shirted wrestlers. I agree.
I think you definitely are. Can you walk us through the process of how you decided to be a shirt guy? Sure, yeah.
I just reached a certain body weight where I thought I would be better served by showing less skin.

My wife made something for me, put a couple of accompaniments on it. And I found that when I wore what I covered up, I was no longer as self-aware and I could pour myself more into the matches.
So a definite turnaround. You know, I was about 220 when I broke in, sleeping in my car.
235, I landed my first job. And I saw direct correlation between the escalation of the weight and the escalation of my standard of living.
And I may have taken it too far, you know, at a certain point, but I certainly did better at 270 and even 280 than I could have if I had been lighter. But I probably should have dropped some weight as I got older.
Yeah, I mean, you were a hero to every kid who, you know, wore a shirt at the pool and all that stuff and in the summertime. So, you know, I appreciate that because it is true.
Like every wrestler you see is basically built the same. And you're one of there's a small list of guys who are a little like, you know, Daniel Bryan.
I think that's why he everyone loves his storyline. And you're in that camp of not the average wrestler, but an incredible talent.
Thanks. Yeah, I think I opened the door for unlikely builds to get a better look at WWE.
You know, a guy like Kevin Owens may not have gotten that look had it not been for the success that I had. Another great shirted wrestler.
He's up there in the conversation. I think I need to come back, and we'll just have to go through the list of shirted wrestlers.
Yes, yes. We should do them out Rushmore.
Yes, we absolutely should. How many Mr.
Sackos did you go through in your entire career? A Mount Rushmore of shirted wrestlers? Yes. Yes.
It's going to happen. I'm going to ask that.
When does this air? This is going to air probably tomorrow. Okay.
So maybe I'll make that a lead in my social media. Yeah you'll come back because we do Mount Rushmore's in July and August so you'll come back on in July or August and we will do an official Mount Rushmore of shirted wrestlers sounds good what was that last question oh I was going to say how many Mr.
Sackos did you go through I want the answer to be like only one and that you still have it and you take it out every now and then. You put it on your hand and like even in the comfort of your own home, you become mankind.
But I know that's probably not the answer. Unfortunately not.
We sold the original one for charity. We sold the one I was wearing when I defeated the rock for charity.
And they brought in like $2 dollars each isn't that crazy um but i did i threw mo at most of the house shows i would throw the sock to the crowd so there have been hundreds of mr soccos over the years still i mean there's something about the pop i'm sure you can speak to it of when you would you know bring out mr socko and it's just it's such an organic hilarious moment and awesome going back to the uh the salad tongs getting a great reaction here i was a guy known for doing all this uh uh highly impactful stuff out on the concrete all of a sudden i'm like pointing to my waistband. It was like, it was a, you would get the reactions in stages.
It was the point, the reveal, the pull, the application, and then finally the move itself. By the way, now it seems like it's good a time to mention that we do have our annual worldwide Super Socko sale through Pro Wrestling Tees running June 1st through 7th.
And people can find out more about that at my website, realnickfoley.com. I love it.
And you didn't come up with Mr. Socko, right? Wasn't it Al Snow? Yeah, I was headed out the door.
My goal that day was to infuriate Mr. McMahon and get thrown out of his hospital room, paving the way for Stone Cold Steve Austin to come in.
And I knew that I had a birthday party clown named Yerbel who'd be meeting me there. And I had like a box of chocolates that was going to be largely eaten by the time I gave them Mr.
McMahon. I had like a surgical love that was blown up to look like a turkey.
And I just felt like I needed one more annoying gift, and it was Al Snow. He said, how about a sock puppet? I looked at him.
I said, a sock puppet? He said, yeah, everybody hates a sock puppet. So the last thing I did before I left for the hospital in Lansing, Michigan, was I drew a face on a sock and ended up using it in the spur of the moment.
This is where if it was scripted at the time, they probably would have shot down the idea of a sock puppet. But because no one even knew I had it, I brought it out.
Vince reacted to it so well. He gave the glance, you know, the camera zoomed in after he threw me out.
And he said, Mr. Socko.
And to me, that sealed the deal. So whose idea was it to turn Mr.
Socko into a weapon? Oh, that was my idea. I thought, hey, as long as I had this mannable claw that I had been effectively used and put down some of the biggest names in the business for a couple of years, why not apply it to the hand and use that as that becomes the new, the new medical claw.
Can you walk us through what was happening like inside the sock? Was it the same grip that you would use as a mandible claw or when you put it in somebody's mouth? Cause we don't get to see that the camera doesn't show what happens under the sock. What your hands doing oh the mandible claw was a nerve hole developed by dr sam shepherd who was the man the tv show and later the movie the fugitive was based on a physician who was uh thought to have killed his wife was later judged not guilty but not completely exonerated he became a wrestler and he was slight of build So he had to use his knowledge of the human anatomy.
So the mandible claw is a nerve hold where these two fingers go underneath the tongue, press down on the nerves under the tongue while the thumb presses up on the nerve right underneath the point of the chin. So I'm not advising people to apply the hold to themselves, but if they want to just test it out, you will see that it is an effective hold.
Ah, yeah. Yeah, no, that does hurt.
You have these mandible clawing. I just mandible clawed myself.
But would you always do that? Would you apply pressure every time? That's better left up to the imagination. Oh, I like that.
I like that. All, so I have one last question.
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I don't have, you know, some of these stories are, you know, tragic. But what would be the focus of your career if they had a dark side of the ring? Something behind the scenes that maybe usual fans, casual fans don't know.
Well, you know, they did approach me about doing an idea, doing a show. And I was thinking about it wasn't going to be particularly dark but it was going to be about uh the decision uh you know to wrestle the way i did knowing there would be uh repercussions especially as time went on and the whole thought press process that went into making those wild matches as good as they could.
So not every show is dark. You know, some of them, like this past one they had about the show in North Korea.
I haven't seen it yet. I do try to catch most of them.
But that one wasn't particularly dark. You know, you could say the wild side, the surreal side of the ring.
But that would have been it. So it would not have been dark, but it would have been pretty fascinating.
And then A&E Biography approached me at about the same time. And, you know, they convinced me that they had a way of telling the story that hadn't been told before.
And so I jumped at that opportunity. I love it.
I love it. I'm very excited to watch it.
I've got one last, last question. It's a very easy one uh i was told by little birdie that you own a lot of christmas stuff you're a big christmas guy you celebrate it year round uh santa claus truther yeah how many santa claus figurines do you own currently oh i don't think i overdo it i probably eight to ten so I have a guy in Germany who wanted to do a custom-made Mick Foley action figure.
And I was like, I've got a lot of action figures. What if you made it Mick Foley as Santa? He is molding it from a Kamala figure.
It's incredible to see this transition. I'll probably put it out there on social media when I get the finished product, but he's showing it to me in stages.

And this guy is like the Michelangelo of custom wrestling figures.

So he's got everything of me.

You know, as some people know, I portray the man in red every December.

So he's got everything down from the authenticity of the boots to the coat I wear, the hat. It's going to look like, ah, it's going to be incredible.
So that will probably, that'll be the only action figure I've got on display in my house, but I will display that one proudly bringing up number up to nine to 11 Santa figurines in the house. I love it.
Christmas isn't just a time of year. Christmas is, it's a spirit.
Yes. It's a mentality.
Yes. Yes.
Right. Well, thank you so much.
We appreciate it, Mick. Also, just one last thing.
You went to high school with Kevin James, so we do, when you come back on for Mount Rushmore, we're going to have to pitch you a movie idea, but we'll save that for when you come back on for Mount Rushmore. Got it.
And Kevin does make an appearance in my biography. Oh, great.
Great. And we have a movie idea that you can be part of.
So we'll just think about that. Think about like, hey, those weird guys that talked to me for 25 minutes.
I don't know their names or anything about them, but they did have a movie idea. And just keep that in your brain.
I will. Thanks a lot, guys.
All right. Thank you.
Appreciate it. All right.
We're going to wrap up. We got guys on chicks.
Send you on your way. Also, a reminder, next week is Memorial Day.
So we will have a show on Tuesday and Friday. So we will be back in studio on Monday night.
No show Monday. And it will be Tuesday and Friday next week.
We'll have a lot to discuss. There'll be a lot of NBA playoffs and hockey playoffs to get to.
So, yeah, that's a little reminder. I'll remind everyone again on Friday.
Also, watch our shows on YouTube and upvote every single video, please. It helps a lot.
And watch Big Cat play Cornel at 2 o'clock today. Play Barstool app.
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When we plug Play Barstool, we gotta plug everything. Oh, that's good.
You gotta get the merch out there. We gotta get the merch out there.
It's smart. What does that say? It says best in the office? Best in the office.
Your laptop's in a good place. Yeah, there you go.
Check that out. That's a handsome guy.
I don't know what the hell.

That's just determination right there.

That's the look of just domination.

It's the look of confidence. I might get it tattooed.

On your chest?

Yeah, somewhere.

Just get that exact shirt tattooed on my body.

Somewhere.

2 o'clock today, Big Cat's going to lose to Frank the Tank.

You think so?

I think so.

I don't know.

The Fleming curse.

It's tough to beat.

And if you think differently, you can make your picks and play bar slap. All right.
Hey, Big Cat. Just wondering if your dick and balls actually become bigger once you become a dad.
My husband's haven't grown since I first met him when we were both 16, and I'm thinking it'll grow, and he'll be able to please me if he knocks me up. Thanks, handsome.
I would say it's the opposite. My dick is getting smaller.
I mean, it is. Yes, it is.
It's like a gun that's been shot a lot. Well, yeah.
It gets rusty in old age. Yeah, it's almost like everything knows, like, hey, we're almost done.
There's nothing left here to prove. Like a great horse that's gotten you the distance.
Yeah, so we're going to. She's starting to get her legs out from under her.
Yeah, we're just going to go shrink off in a field somewhere. Hey, guys, quick question.
When guys want to watch sports all weekend instead of actually playing sports, are they alphas or betas? Ooh, big alphas. I think it's more alpha to watch other people play sports.
You know what? It's actually the most alpha thing you can do is to criticize other people for how they're playing sports that you couldn't play yes yes and also playing sports is hard watching sports for an entire weekend that's almost the hardest thing in the world to do like that's i i all right no no like i'm not being hyperbolic here no cap no cap thank you no cap i would actually put it up i know that there's a little bit of a difference, but I would put up guys sitting on a couch and watching an entire slate of college football on Saturday and an entire slate of NFL football on Sunday. I'd put that up there with the Ironman.
I really would. Obviously not physically as taxing, but mentally far more taxing.
I would say physically more taxing in the long run. Because if you do that over the course of an entire career watching sports, those weekends add up.
And not to mention the social media posts. The sedentary lifestyle.
Where it's like, you better watch and also tweet. And bet.
And it's also one of those things where give me any triathlete in the world,

I probably can't do what they're doing,

but I bet you I'd have a better chance of doing what they're doing than they could do what I'm doing.

I could fucking run.

I could just walk a marathon.

If you do that every single weekend,

you're probably going to die before the person that runs a triathlon

every single weekend.

So you tell me which is hard to run the ball.

Yeah, and if you're in shape and you're a triathlete,

you're one of those fucking tri-hards that wakes up at like 5 in the morning to run, no chance you can sit through Louisville play Duke like noon on a Saturday. Or a late night snack in the whack.
Yeah, right. You would be tapped out.
And then you got to wake up and there's a London game. Oh, the Dolphins are playing the Jags.
Guess what? No rest for the weary. Absolutely.
And then you think that you can make kickoff on Sunday countdown right when Randy Moss and the boys are sitting down starting to chop it up? I don't think so. Can you do a screen grab? Lights out before the sun.
As soon as Al's sliding in, you'd be fucking head on the pillow, lights out. Listen, it's tough to get up there at the crack of 10 a.m.
and get the screen grab of that first sign on college game day. Right over Kirk's shoulder.
Get that first one out there. By the way, if we're really counting this, it's not just one week.
It's the whole season. It's 18 weeks now, which reminder, Jake, put that in there that we have to do some stress test training to make sure that we're up to an 18-week schedule.
We don't want to get injured in week 17. I don't know.
Probably preseason. Yeah, maybe preseason.
We sit down and watch. Get some reps, stress tests.
Well, because it's just like there is – it's more season for everyone. You know, there are people – that was the big bugaboo in the CBA.
Like, guys are going to get injured. That counts fans too.
And also we've got games on Thursday nights now, which are just a health and safety nightmare for us, especially. And they might not even be on TV.
Sometimes we have Saturday night football in the NFL, but it's labeled Thursday night football on Saturday. Your brains have to be fungible and adapt.
Maction. Be water.
Maction. Hey, Dad, Cat, Hank, and that other guy.
I'm lucky enough to have met the love of my life and we recently got engaged. Congrats.
I've started looking for wedding venues, and the place I love the most has only one Saturday open for the entire rest of the year. Oh, no.
It's on November 6th. Nope.
This wouldn't be a problem, except my fiancé refuses to get married on a day that the Razorbacks are playing. He said, diehard Razorbacks fan.
My guess is there are people in his family that are also extremely diehard

Razorbacks fans,

and they're going to figure out a way to be watching the hogs play during

your wedding one way or another.

So I would say,

yes,

absolutely.

Delay it at least until,

well,

I was going to say until the college football playoffs are over,

but it's Arkansas.

So until early January,

delay it.

Whoa.

What's the name?

Yes. Yes, sir.
Sam. fuck.
What's Sam Pitts, right? He's the college football coach for Arkansas. He's fucking awesome.
He's got them going in the right direction. I agree with you, PFT.
If he's diehard, a lot of his family's diehard. It's not a casual fan base.
You basically will. Pittman.
You will basically... Your entire wedding experience will be hijacked by that game.
People will be wanting to watch that instead of watching you and the love of your life and all that jazz happen. So yeah, don't do it.
That's crazy. Let's check up real quick who are they playing.
You said November 6th? November 6th. Let's check.
I gonna look real quick you can't do it and everyone's gonna be miserable mississippi state i mean you should beat the shit out of them that they suck yeah but everyone would be miserable guess that line oh um what's the line you mean yeah sorry i think it's gonna be uh arkansas by one and a half he oh it's at home. Arkansas's at home? Arkansas by one and a half.
It's at home. Arkansas is at home? Yeah, it's in Little Rock.
Arkansas, three and a half. Here's what else you're missing.
Fayetteville. LSU, Alabama.
Yeah, Fayetteville. LSU, Alabama is that weekend.
Florida, South Carolina. Texas, A&M, Auburn.
These are some of the games that you're making your entire guest list skip. Illinois, Minnesota.
That's probably the Beth Moen's game of the week. No one can watch it.
Ohio State, Nebraska. That's a big game.
Yeah, huge. Historically.
Yeah, Oklahoma State, West Virginia. I'm so excited.
I was thinking about this the other day, just how much I'm excited for fans back in the stadiums and college Oregon, Washington. Shout out Spencer Hawes.
Need I rest my case? Or do you want me to keep going? USC, Arizona State? No, you're good. Sup, fellas.
Army Air Force, take the under. As it warms up and summer is back, how can I prevent chafing down there? Hmm.
Coconut oil or red cider apple vinegar? I've always had success with Gold Bond, the powder. If it's a really hot day, just give yourself a little.
You can even do the LeBron where you fucking slap it and then put a little on your balls. Put a little in your underwear, in that little thing that hangs and just fucking keep it dry this is guys on chicks so i oh yeah i think it might be a female oh all right well let me just say first get balls there's nothing according to most of the mommy blogs that i've read that coconut oil won't fix can't you just can't you just put a tampon up there are we talking about lip chafage oh i think is that a thing no i think but if you put a tampon up there? Are we talking about lip chafage?

Is that a thing?

No, I think, but if you put a tampon up there, it will just capture all the moisture, right?

In the area?

Yeah, it's like putting out honey for a bee.

Just dump a bunch of cotton balls down your jeans.

I think we got that one.

All right.

No, here's what you do. Just eat a bunch of different packs of beef jerky.

Take out all those silica gel packets and then put those in your vagina. Yep.
Captures all the moisture. What's up, Big Cat PFT Cake and Bubz? First time long time.
Oh, no, Hank. Oh, no.
Question from Mr. Commenter.
Do you receive a residual check for your epic potential Grammy-winning performance in the NHL commercial of you playing the air guitar? I keep seeing it every day and wonder how that works since you guys make a mere 75K an episode. I surely hope.
80. We're at 80 now.
Everyone got pumped up. Because the leap year, there was an extra day, so 5,000 bucks.
No worse way to reveal yourself as a casual by tweeting now is that PFT commenter in the nuance name. Yeah, it's great.
I've had a few of those. It's very late to do that.
It's not. It's actually not me.
There we go. It's just some guy that, whoever he is, he's hot as shit and he's tall.
And he's great looking. He loves great teams.
They should probably take you out of that commercial now the Caps are out? I don't know what my contract says about that. You know what would be funny? If somebody photoshopped instead of me holding the air guitar golf clubs the classic yeah just a giant l oh holding an l damn playing an l uh hit me that hard let's see oh by the way i think ovi's gonna resign not that you guys were worried about that i was worried yeah all right we'll do'll do two more.
What's up, PMT, especially Girl, Dad, Cat?

Are you going to have Dr. Phil back on?

I really think it could help heal the rift between Jake and Hank.

That's actually a good call.

That's great because we were talking about... I'm going to make the text right now.

We were talking about getting a marriage psychiatrist or a marriage therapist on.

I think that Dr. Phil is even better than that.

Dr. Phil will straighten out any mess.
We got him to to apologize for mk ultra on behalf of the psychiatric community dr phil is great at burying hatchets so yes i would love to have him back on i'm doing it right now texting peggy and kelly can we get speaking of peggy hey daddy cat pfg alpha hank well i like pfg alpha jake and and Beta Hank. I recently went on vacation with my boyfriend in Nashville.
Being we both live with our families, it's rare we get the freedom to explore the bedroom. Oh.
On the trip every time. Damn, hotel sex.
He would drop hints about wanting me to peg him. Whoa.
But then play it off as a joke. That's really exploring the entire room.
Okay. Do you think he wants to be pegged, or do you think it's a really funny thing to joke about? Please let me know, guys.
I mean, if it's your first time, like... I can confidently say I've never joked about wanting to be pegged to my significant other, so I think that's a sign he would like to be pegged.
Especially if it's like, all right, we finally have some alone time in a bedroom to ourselves. Right.
Let's do... Let's get the...
Why won't you... Can you please fuck me? Like, it's totally normal to be like,

Miley Cyrus, choke me with

your garter belt and then

throw me off the Empire State Building. Right.

But it's weird to be

like, hey, put your finger into my

rectum. Yeah, I think he...

I know King Shaming.

No. But you gotta peg

him. And hard.
And he might...

Like, really hard. You might like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like.
It doesn't matter if you like it. You know what? He's going to like it.
He's going to love it. Since you're writing in to part of my take asking that question, I think that means that she might be maybe feeling a little bit.
Like this could be fun. No, yeah.
Do it. Give us a follow up on this.
I want to hear how the hotel room went. Hit us on the side, and we will get you.
We will pay for one night hotel room wherever you want. And a towel.
Up to a certain limit, and we will. $50.
But you have to peg. And you have to tell us that you peg.
$50. A La Quinta Inn outside of Columbus, Ohio.
Pegging. All right, numbers.

49.

Is that it, Hank?

18.

8.

99.

What did you say, Bubba?

86.

Also, comment in the YouTube comments what you think the numbers are going to be.

3.

3.

All right, big 3.

I feel like we've gotten a lot of single digits recently.

Have you said?

We had 1 and 2, I think, last week?

Whoa.

Wild.

Whoa.

That is wild.

Do we want any facts?

Animal facts.

Animal facts.

In 2009, a fox cub was caught in a trap in England for two weeks

but survived because its mother brought food every day.

Nice story.

That's a very nice story.