Mick Foley (Mankind), Muggsy Bogues, The Lakers Are Back And Brooks vs Bryson

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Speaker 3 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer and

Speaker 3 we stayed up. We stayed up.
We're actually in the studio right now. It is 12.30 in the morning.
We stayed up because we love you all and also

Speaker 3 we're going to record early on Thursday. So we felt like we owed it to everyone.

Speaker 4 It honestly feels good to be up this

Speaker 4 great sports.

Speaker 3 And we got rewarded with some good basketball games. So we're going to break down the games that happened tonight.

Speaker 3 We'll talk a little hockey playoffs. We have a twofer.
We have Mankind and Muggsy Bogues, Bryson and Brooks. And then we're going to finish up with some great guys on chicks.

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Speaker 3 and the Lakers are back.

Speaker 7 We think.

Speaker 4 They're up by their points with one minute left.

Speaker 3 Oh, whoa, wait, PFT, how did you know that?

Speaker 3 Are we up right now watching the game at 12:30 in the morning in the studio?

Speaker 4 Actually, no, we're not, Big Cat. We're up awake watching the game at 12:32

Speaker 4 in the morning in the studio. And the Suns were back for a little bit.

Speaker 3 The simple things in life for me is just bragging about being up late. That's really no wrong.
On a school night.

Speaker 3 Yes, you're right, though. The Suns, this,

Speaker 3 i i i think that um it was the perfect yin and yang on sunday's show when we had you know you were optimistic about the suns' chances against the lakers i was i was more the realist in the conversation about the fact that i've seen this from lebron so many times over uh he loses game one and then he figures it out and they win game two and i it's weird to say but in it's in a series that a seven-game series and the suns are up 1-0 i i said it during this game in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 It felt like a must-win for the Suns.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm going to do a little whose man is this because I think it's actually Anthony Davis' win tonight. I'm not giving this win to LeBron.

Speaker 4 Anthony Davis, if he doesn't make all those three-pointers, it's a much different game. You can't beat the Lakers if Anthony Davis is wet from three.

Speaker 3 He also made a lot of free throws, which will shout out our Suns fans, listeners. It was a little bit of a ref show.
I'll just say it. Well, they said the tone.

Speaker 3 Yes, it felt like the Lakers were destined to win this game. Take that however you want.

Speaker 4 Right at the start, in the very first minute, Anthony Davis, who do he kick in the nuts at Jay Crowder, right?

Speaker 3 Jay Crowder, Karate.

Speaker 4 He kicked Jay Crowder in the nuts, and that probably went on to affect Jay Crowder's dismal three-point performance tonight.

Speaker 3 Shout out Jay Crowder, though, because he tries so hard on defense, and I will always respect a guy who's like, hey, listen, I'm working my ass off on defense. I'm hustling for rebounds.

Speaker 3 I'm going to get to take a few shots here, even though I can't shoot tonight.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and he also is a guy that doesn't lose confidence. He's like, next one's going in.

Speaker 3 Yep, exactly. Next one is definitely going in.
So it was a good game, though. It was a fun, spirited game.

Speaker 3 Campaign, who I never stopped believing in,

Speaker 3 was a perfect compliment to Devin Booker.

Speaker 3 But yes, it does feel like the Suns needed to win this game, and it feels like history is repeating itself over and over and over, where LeBron, you know, the feel-out game of game one.

Speaker 3 And I mean, I guess he just knows, like, he's done it so many times. What's the, you don't need to win game one.

Speaker 4 I think there's certain opponents, like, if it's in the NBA Finals, he'll probably try to go out there game one and wreck shit, right? Right.

Speaker 4 But if it's in the first or second round, he's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let them get a little confidence, maybe run their way out of the series tonight. Let them try too hard in game one.

Speaker 4 It's like, you want to see what the best they have.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 I tortured myself a little bit and tried to go back through history because I was like, I think that LeBron beat the Bulls every single game, or the Bulls beat LeBron every single game one and then lost the series.

Speaker 3 It was three out of four, but two of them were 4-1 LeBron. That's just what he does.
He gives you a little bit of hope, and then you just sit there and you're like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 3 And you know what? I'm going to say something nice about LeBron, even though it was bullshit that Porzingis got fined $50,000 for doing what LeBron did.

Speaker 4 Well, to be fair, what LeBron did did not translate to a high risk of transmission activity per Adam Silver. That just meant it was LeBron that did this.

Speaker 3 He has figured out

Speaker 3 when to pick his spots in these games that it's incredible to watch how he can be so passive for quarters and take quarters, not off, but kind of take them off and be like,

Speaker 3 when I need to, I will make shots and I will dictate the pace of this game. And yeah, it is pretty nice to have Anthony Davis.
And shout out to Andre. Oh, we just had a Steve Ballmer.

Speaker 3 He's got Steve Ballmer's wearing like a painter's mask.

Speaker 4 Do you think Steve Ballmer is invited to the Bill Gates summer of the divorce?

Speaker 3 What was that?

Speaker 3 Bill Gates, by the way, look at

Speaker 3 probably the first text you send when you're single.

Speaker 4 If you're Bill Gates, you have to invite somebody that's like at least in an adjacent tax bracket to you when you're going on your vacation.

Speaker 3 He probably has some hookups. I don't want to piss off Bill Gates because he's probably one of the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 3 But if I were to be critical of Bill Gates, I would say, hey, dude, you're single now. You might want to get rid of the tits.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, like, if I was single tomorrow, I wouldn't eat for like five months. Like you just have to, you just, I'm sorry, but Bill,

Speaker 3 you got to get hot.

Speaker 4 You got to get hot. I think that Bill Gates is hot right now in his own Bill Gates way.
He's frumpy.

Speaker 3 He's frumpy.

Speaker 4 Again, I find power attractive.

Speaker 3 Frumpy is

Speaker 3 a bad man.

Speaker 4 He looks like a melted candle. Yeah.

Speaker 3 A little bit.

Speaker 3 He looks like he's trying to steal a pillow from a hotel underneath his shirt. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But anyways, I would invite Steve Ballmer. And also, I would invite Steve Ballmer, regardless of his money, because he's just a party starter.
Right.

Speaker 3 Maybe A Rod. He's an energy guy.
He's kind of in similar. I mean, not the same tax bracket.
Yeah, but energy guys. Energy guys.

Speaker 3 So yeah, LeBron, I was complimenting him, and then we got sidetracked. I do think

Speaker 4 we need to go back and look at LeBron's greatest hits from when he was a younger player and some of the antics, some of the theatrics that he pulled off.

Speaker 4 Because knowing what we know now about LeBron, I think like the cramp game would be absolutely hilarious if it happened right now. Yes.
Against this person where he got, he got like carried off.

Speaker 3 That was funny in real real time. That actually was the Spurs did just turn off the Aces.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but he got carried off the court, right? Like he had to have people physically lift him up like Rudy and walk him 10 feet to the bench.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a warrior. He played through a pretty much broken shoulder tonight.

Speaker 4 Labrum James.

Speaker 3 Yes, exactly. So, yeah, the series is 1-1.
I think the Lakers are now going to, you know, keep control of it.

Speaker 3 It just feels like they're a team, and maybe, you know, last year they obviously won the title,

Speaker 3 but they know when to push it and when they don't need to push it.

Speaker 3 Like, they can push the buttons, flip the switch, and LeBron has that part of him now where he doesn't have to give max effort all the time.

Speaker 3 He knows that he can control a game if it's a five-point game in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 I do really want to see a Clippers-Lakers series, though.

Speaker 3 I think, you know what?

Speaker 4 I think we deserve that as fans. I'll go one step further.
I think that Adam Silver owes it to us as fans.

Speaker 3 Yes, I agree. It's so the Clippers, should we switch the Clippers real quick? The Clippers now will update if things change as we're watching the end of this game.

Speaker 4 Again, it's 12.38 in the morning. 1238 update.

Speaker 3 The Clippers going down 2-0 would be

Speaker 3 very, very catastrophic.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's panic button.

Speaker 4 You have to smash the panic button.

Speaker 4 Ballmer needs to ask Clippy what to do in that circumstance.

Speaker 4 It is officially like you need to break the glass. You need to figure it out because you know what happens if they lose this series?

Speaker 3 You got to blow it all up yeah you got to blow it up you got to trade paul george yeah everybody trade everyone yes i luca is just so fucking good luca's so smooth he was hitting like 32 foot three pointers consistently tonight and i love something i just just love love love like you know how we always talk about brady quinn's spiral and how you want to fuck it the part of luca's game that i want to fuck is when he does a uh step back or a turner or or turnaround fade away and he does the teardrop that basically the ball like scrapes the roof and and and the net just doesn't even move you know what i like about him i like after he gets back down the court after hitting a three when he does the turnaround he knows when the camera's facing him he does blue steel yes when he turns around on the defensive end of the court yes yes so we'll yeah we'll i mean it's a 10-point game right now as we're doing this at 1240 a.m um

Speaker 3 the celtics henry

Speaker 3 All I was thinking today as I was watching the game is that the Nets and Lakers championship is going to be very interesting because the Nets look like the greatest team ever assembled tonight.

Speaker 3 It ever is. Ever.
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 No hyperbole.

Speaker 3 It really is no hyperbole because when you are watching them and you're like, okay, there was one possession where Kyrie came down. He threw it to KD in

Speaker 3 like the high post. KD did like a turnaround swish and you're sitting there watching it.
Kyrie's standing at the top of the key. James Harden is standing in the corner.

Speaker 3 Joe Harris is standing at the three-point line. All those guys can hit threes.
Oh, and then Blake Griffin is just dunking on everyone's face. And I know people are like, oh, he got his ankles broken.

Speaker 3 He dunked four times after that. Blake was shut up.

Speaker 4 Oh, Blake is officially back, right?

Speaker 3 You heard his hand on the rim, okay?

Speaker 3 That's like the worst pain you can have.

Speaker 4 Here's a stat. Blake has had 19 dunks with the Nets after zero dunks with the Pistons.
Yeah. So Blake is officially back.
He was jamming in everybody's face.

Speaker 4 He's battled back extremely bravely from having to live in Detroit for a couple months. I think he's

Speaker 4 come back Blake of the Year. Yes.

Speaker 3 And it's just,

Speaker 3 it's stupid watching the Nets and being like, okay, so if Kevin Durant doesn't want to score, they have two other all-world scorers who can just do it at any time.

Speaker 3 And Joe Harris, who fucking, how many points did Joe Harris have to? 25. 25.

Speaker 3 I think he had 22 in the first half. He was unconscious from three.
So it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Maybe it's that the Celtics are just not that good, which I think you agree, Hank, and they're missing Jalen Brown, but I think the Nets might be that hard to stop. Right.

Speaker 3 The only thing that I was thinking is like the only thing that could stop them is a team that's a better coach team. The Lakers have been together a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 They have a little bit more size. But I don't see how it goes any other way at this point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so what happens when Blake does have to defend against Anthony Davis? Right. Can our boys beat him beat?

Speaker 3 Or Joel? Yeah. That's, yeah.

Speaker 4 But they'll smoke the Sixers.

Speaker 3 So basically if they play like they did tonight, they're kind of.

Speaker 4 What is the roadmap to beating the Nets? You have to hope that two out of the two

Speaker 3 guys. You have to score more than that.

Speaker 4 You have to outscore them, and

Speaker 4 you have to play Tough D.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 You have to play man defense. I think you have to.

Speaker 3 No, seriously, you have to

Speaker 3 maybe...

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 4 You have to hope that KD and Kyrie have off nights and that James Harden went out to a strip club.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was thinking, I was like, you have to take James Harden out to the club.

Speaker 3 You have to get a Twitter troll to go after KD, and then you have to have like some type of fact or like woe moment with Kyrie that he just spends the whole time being like, is the world flat or not?

Speaker 4 If aliens show up.

Speaker 3 And then hope Joe Harris like rolls his ankle. So Joe Harris tonight, he's their fourth option.
Oh, can I get your charger real quick?

Speaker 3 Yeah, go. Because it's 12.
It's late.

Speaker 4 It's very late. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Joe Harris was seven for 10 from three tonight. Seven for ten from three.
So he's their fourth option.

Speaker 4 The bottom line is you can't beat the Nets if Joe Harris is scoring in double digits. You just can't beat.

Speaker 3 I know that we're overreacting.

Speaker 3 No, we're right. But we are overreacting.

Speaker 3 It's just ridiculous to watch them and be like, oh, James Harden is on the floor and he's not touching the ball and he is one of the best scorers in the league.

Speaker 4 I'm overreacting only because I was underreacting earlier

Speaker 4 after game one when the Nets looked like they could be beat. Yes.
So, I mean, that's on me. So I do think that I was wrong in the past.
Nets might not lose a game going into the going to the finals.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 No, they'll lose a game.

Speaker 4 All right, now you're underreacting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm underreacting. I had that same thought tonight, BFD.
They will.

Speaker 4 I just don't see how it happens.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 I think the Bucs will be a good series. The Bucs would not, like, the Bucs would, I think I would go six, seven.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 3 I'm back to reacting appropriately.

Speaker 4 I'm very excited to see if the Nets win the championship, the ticker tape parade that they throw for them here in New York.

Speaker 4 How many does Bill de Blasio are going to be out there? Yeah. No, Bill, no, Bill de Blasio is wearing a Knicks hat today.

Speaker 3 Shout out Bill de Blasio because I think I'm starting, he's universally hated, but I think I'm starting to like him just because the, so for people who don't know, he's the mayor of New York.

Speaker 3 He came, did a press conference.

Speaker 3 He's wearing a Nets jersey and a Nets hat, and then today, a week later, was wearing a Knicks hat and dropped a line like, hey, Trey Young, like those hawks don't fly in New York City.

Speaker 3 I just love the idea that a person, he's almost a Veep character, like a person, a politician can do the Nets press conference, walk off the stage, and like look at his staff and be like, I fucking crushed that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, you're not. Like, give me the Knicks hat.
Let's do it again.

Speaker 4 He's like if Jonah was a Mormon from Veep. And he was wearing a James Hardin jersey the other day.
And now today he was complaining about Trey Young.

Speaker 3 On top of the corner. On top of the corner.

Speaker 4 He was complaining about Trey Young because Trey Young games the system too much and draws too many cheap fouls.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, all right, so that's basketball.
Oh, shout out to our Nuggets. One, game two.

Speaker 3 It was illegal. We're going to get to a hat roast for the new MOB hats.
It was illegal what they did, though. They wore the Blazers jerseys.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 you can't do that.

Speaker 4 Are there not any colorblind NBA fans out there? Because there are a shitload of colorblind NFL fans that flip out when teams are wearing the wrong colors during color rush.

Speaker 4 You remember that old, like the Jets Bills game back from 2016 or whenever that was? I felt like half of Twitter was colorblind at that point.

Speaker 4 But are you telling me that there's nobody out there that's writing letters to the NBA about like, hey, I can't tell the difference between Carmelo Anthony and the team that used to have Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I saw, so Nike took over NBA uniforms a few years ago, and they've just completely wrecked it. Like every team has 10 uniforms now.
They have colors that they shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 It's so stupid what they've done. There's been so many bad uniform matchups.

Speaker 3 It's basically the Oregon Ducks. If every team was the Oregon Ducks, like in a squad scrimmage.
Yeah, the Oregon Ducks are cool in football because they're the only team that are the Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 3 Like that's cool that they wear a different uniform every week. Now it's every fucking team has this.
So old man yell in a cloud, but you can't wear the other team's fucking colors.

Speaker 4 How are you? You can't wear red against the Blazers.

Speaker 4 That is their color. Right.

Speaker 3 And how can you say these colors don't run if you have every color? Right. Like as a fan, what are you supposed to do?

Speaker 4 Yeah. If you get a tattoo.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you're a Blazers fan that that shows up, imagine this, big cat. Imagine if you're a Blazers fan, you painted your body to support the team bright red.

Speaker 4 You show up at the game, and now all of a sudden you have to root for the nuggets or look like a fool.

Speaker 3 I think they should just go shirts and skins. Yeah.
Every single game. Be a lot of blood.
Be a lot of blood.

Speaker 4 KD's shoulder exploded tonight. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 3 It was gross.

Speaker 4 Looked like a gunshot wound when he fell down.

Speaker 3 Also, Andre Drummond, I don't know what you're doing wearing one legging, but you look really slow from it. Like you just look slower.

Speaker 4 Some guys look way faster, though, but he looks so slow.

Speaker 3 I don't know either. Anthony Davis is injured.

Speaker 4 When When he's got the white undershirt that's really tight, which, by the way, I don't know, is there any other player that wears that undershirt? I think he just has a big shirt.

Speaker 3 Well, Drummond wears an undershirt too.

Speaker 4 No, but that exact style of undershirt.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 4 I think he just has a guy that makes them for him personally.

Speaker 3 Yeah, who's trying to take over the apparel world. Jake, what are you going to say?

Speaker 8 You guys wanted an updated stat of the Big Four from the Nets in game one. So the Big Four, including Blake, had 72 tonight.

Speaker 3 Whoa.

Speaker 8 And part of my take, yes, Blake Griffin, Joe Harris combined for 36. Kyrie James Harden, 35.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Oh.

Speaker 3 Wow. Okay.
Numbers never lie. Great stat.
Never lie. All right.
Quick, quick hockey, and then we got to talk about Brooks and Bryson with

Speaker 3 hockey.

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Speaker 3 The Islanders and Bruins are on a collision course.

Speaker 3 The Islanders took the lead in the series 3-2.

Speaker 3 The Oilers and Connor McDavid got swept in just horrific fashion.

Speaker 3 Three overtime games.

Speaker 4 They got beat down so bad that Mike Trout was trending on Twitter because Connor McDavid just can't win a playoff season.

Speaker 3 Yikes. Yikes.
And they lost in three overtimes, which I can't think of anything worse than watching your team get swept in the third overtime.

Speaker 3 That's a brutal, brutal way to go.

Speaker 4 It's tough. And they broke the franchise.
Wayne Gretzky resigned. Oh.
He said, I'm not going to be doing whatever Wayne Gretzky was doing. But that's, it's a good lesson.

Speaker 3 Like, usually, if they're going to TNT, that's, I thought you were going to transition that. That was your biz, what you're talking to Biz about.

Speaker 3 He's going to TNT? Yeah. Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 Oh, he's going to try to do it. He's going to get high and talk about hockey fights like this.

Speaker 3 Well, no, but that's a pretty smart, like, we can't get Biz Nasty. Let's get the great muscle.

Speaker 4 Honestly, like, no cap, I would 10 times out of 10 rather interview Biz Nasty than Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 3 Oh, for sure. Would Wayne Gretzky pass out on the couch? Already interviewed him? Yeah, no, if you said, No, no, no.
But okay, so one interview, Gretzky.

Speaker 3 But if you said you have a 10-interview series, biz all day, every day.

Speaker 3 Like, there wouldn't be anything else to talk about after a while with Gretzky.

Speaker 4 It's honestly better interviewing players that were not very good at hockey than players that were great. And that goes for most sports, too.

Speaker 4 Like, would you, think about all the great athletes out there that have transitioned to being in the front office. They all stink at it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's better to have

Speaker 3 bad athletes. Like, that's why we have Mark Titus coming up on Friday.
Exactly.

Speaker 4 And it's one of those things where the people that are in charge of personnel, they're fixed to everything. It's just do what I did.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Be me. Be smarter.
It's not that hard.

Speaker 4 I was great. You should be great, too.

Speaker 3 Sign me again. Yeah.
But a younger version.

Speaker 3 Maple Leafs took control of their series.

Speaker 3 So, and then I saw

Speaker 3 what other series we got going on right now.

Speaker 8 Carolina beat Nashville.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. And are the Panthers still alive? Yeah, they are.

Speaker 8 Game five tonight.

Speaker 3 Or game six tonight. Oh, Tampa Boo.
Oh, wow. Wait.
Oh, yeah. So it's 3-2.
All right.

Speaker 3 There hasn't been a series we've gotten wrong more than the dates of the games. Tampa Bay games.

Speaker 4 I thought we nailed it. I thought that

Speaker 3 we screwed it up. Well, and Hank, we were all over the place.
And now I'm thinking that it's still 3-1, but it's not. It's 3-2.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Connecticut residents are cheering for the Hurricanes? I don't think so. Is there any of that going on? No.

Speaker 3 The Whalers bring back their Whalers.

Speaker 4 The Whalers, I mean, those uniforms are sweet.

Speaker 3 I mean, also the greatest goal song of all time, the Brass Bonanza.

Speaker 4 Which one was that? Single.

Speaker 4 I think that's it. I think that was what was played.

Speaker 3 No, I think you're right because that shit

Speaker 4 every time you'd hit a, you'd execute a perfect wraparound, and then they fell 94. That shit would happen.

Speaker 3 I hope that's it. That's Brass bonanza, is the greatest goal song, probably of all time.
I would actually say it.

Speaker 3 Nope, I was wrong.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was wrong. Is that brass bonanza? What you just did is like what college basketball bands do.

Speaker 3 It sounded good, though, right?

Speaker 4 It sounded like sports. All right, play the brass bonanza.

Speaker 3 Let's hear the whole brass bonanza.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Wait, no, this is right.

Speaker 3 I was right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this part.

Speaker 3 You were singing the

Speaker 3 this is a fucking great song.

Speaker 3 They should honestly bring back the whalers just for this song.

Speaker 4 And also, the logo is way cooler, too.

Speaker 3 And also, I like the song because it's like it's the brass bonanza. Like, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 It's just all the brass. It's a bonanza.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and it's just all of them. This is.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. Is that trombone? Trump bone, yeah.
Yeah. That's a bone.

Speaker 3 That's T-bone.

Speaker 3 We got to record late more often. We just find these gems.

Speaker 3 I'm going to skull fuck anyone who says we didn't talk hockey. We fucking played the brass bonanza.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 That's great. That's great.

Speaker 4 You know what? It sounds better, too, coming through an organ.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes. Where they screw up like a couple notes here and there? Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yes.
All right. The most important story in sports world.
Let's get to that. Bryson D.
Chambeau, Brooks Kepka, our guy Brooks Kepka.

Speaker 3 If you didn't see the clip, I think it's actually been pulled from all social media, but you probably did see the clip. Bryson walking, Brooks doing an interview after his round, I think Friday.

Speaker 3 Bryson walks by, says something. We don't know what he says.

Speaker 3 He's also wearing metal spikes, which I'm going to say right now is bad for the course, and guys don't like them because it screws up the putting green.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it actually does. It leaves nasty divots that you can't necessarily repair correctly.

Speaker 4 That's why, when you looked at the green this weekend, there were all those like brown patches that had nothing to do with the sprinkler system or the irrigation system or the weather or how grass grows.

Speaker 4 That was just Bryson's stomping around. And also, when you miss all your putts and you just parade around every single green all the time, like Bryson did, you chew up a significant portion of it.

Speaker 3 So, Brooks has a look of disdain. He closes his eyes like, I can't fucking believe this guy.
It was so good.

Speaker 3 This rivalry is so good for golf. Obviously, we are team Brooks till we die.
We ride till we die. And I don't know how anyone could see this and be like, that was Bryson living rent-free.

Speaker 3 Dude, Brooks, like, I like that Brooks wears his heart on his sleeve. Like, I don't like this guy.
He fucking annoys me. So

Speaker 3 I'm just going to, you know, give my facial expression that he deserves.

Speaker 4 I think we need to have an honest conversation as a nation about what living rent-free in somebody's head actually entails because it gets thrown out there a lot. It's the most common thing.

Speaker 4 If you have an opinion about somebody, they're living rent-free in your head. And frankly, I think that them living rent-free in my head is actually good for me.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because that means that I'm thinking, I'm using my brain. I'm not coasting through life like a jellyfish, just like floating around, not having a strong opinion on all your antics in front of me.

Speaker 3 Yes, let me give you a hypothetical. What I might envision living rent-free in someone's head would look like.

Speaker 3 Let's say, PFT,

Speaker 3 I'm standing giving an interview, and someone walks by me that I really hate, and I give a look like I fucking hate this guy. And then that gets leaked onto social media.

Speaker 3 This is all hypothetical, by the way. This gets leaked on social media.
Everyone's like, oh my God, that's crazy. The person who walked by me, who I hate, then

Speaker 3 puts out an Instagram story of him lifting 100 pound dumbbells saying can't stop won't stop trying to prove how tough he is.

Speaker 3 I'd say that would be rent free.

Speaker 4 I think the individuals that are living rent free are Bryson DeChambeau's rowdy garage youth group Gainsbros that chill out in his Nautilus circuit constantly.

Speaker 4 I think they're not paying rent and they're just hanging out there being like great form Bryson

Speaker 3 when he's doing by the way He's got bad form. He's going to get injured.
Terrible form. I don't want him to get injured, but he's going to get injured.

Speaker 4 You don't do, he was trying trying to do hammer curls with 100 pounds. 100 pounds just for the gram.
Just for the gram.

Speaker 4 He was using his shoulders.

Speaker 3 Popcorn muscles.

Speaker 4 He was going back. His elbows, the angles on his elbows were just all kinds of fucked up.

Speaker 4 I'm actually past the point of rivalry at this point. I'm concerned for his health.
Agreed.

Speaker 3 Someone should alert him that his form is terrible. But that's what he did.

Speaker 3 He released a video of him lifting 100-pound dumbbells in response to Brooks showing just regular disdain, which, again, is a normal reaction of like, I hate this guy.

Speaker 4 And BitCat, hypothetically, would you say that it's living rent-free if, let's say your name's not Brooks, and you're teeing off, you hit a shot, and then someone says, nice shot, Brooksy, and you turn around and you say, say that again, I'll get you kicked off this golf course.

Speaker 3 Would you say that would be living rent-free? I would say that would be.

Speaker 4 And by no means am I telling every single person that's listening to me that might be at a tournament with Bryson DeChambeau to call him Brooksy after he hits a T-shot.

Speaker 4 I would never say something like that. But if you were to do something like that, I think you might be living rent-free, Bryson said.

Speaker 3 I would agree. I would agree.
Free of cost.

Speaker 4 But I did love, I love the look on Brooks' capital.

Speaker 3 It's so good.

Speaker 4 Because it's very relatable. We all have things in our life that we react like that to.
Yes. It's like they're just people that they creep you out.

Speaker 3 They bother you.

Speaker 4 I don't even think that Brooks hates Bryson as much as he's just completely creeped out by him as a person. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No.

Speaker 3 He just doesn't like being around him. It's like being at the water cooler and seeing the guy that you just hate walking up, and you're like, oh, this again.

Speaker 4 You know that meme of the boy walking down the street with a trumpet and the girl in front of him covering her ears while he's just blaring it? That's in real life, that's what was going on there.

Speaker 3 Agreed. All right, so last up, by the way, the Clippers came back, and then

Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 what just happened? Mav Tim Hardaway hit a three. Tim Hardaway just hit a big three so it looks like they're gonna go down 0-2 junior Jake.

Speaker 3 Yeah, junior Tim Hardaway senior He said something right Yeah, not a fan of the gays. That's right.
That's right.

Speaker 3 I knew he said something I couldn't remember what he had said an all-time onion headline too.

Speaker 4 I'm not gonna say it out loud because I'll have to be transferred to the Puerto Rico division.

Speaker 3 Where does he stand on Kony? Oh, we'll get to that. We will get to that.
All right, so I'm looking at these MLB hats for the first time. What the fuck are these?

Speaker 4 So the internet did something good today. We used our collective power to bully new era caps into taking down

Speaker 4 the new area code hats that they dropped for every Major League Baseball team. Within like, I think it was within 30 minutes.
It was just such a swift, unified backlash.

Speaker 4 Like, we still have it as a country when we're all on the same side. It's just that we all team up usually in terms of like major league sports fashion choices.

Speaker 3 I think it was just happening a little bit. Oh, I see one person said these hats are lit.
Oh, wait, no. Fuck.
They didn't say that? No, the account is, get this, sports shit no one says.

Speaker 3 That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 Said no one ever. Are we bringing back? That guy made an account in 2013 and was like, I am going to rule the internet.

Speaker 4 I think we got to bring back said no one ever.

Speaker 3 Sports, 148,000 followers.

Speaker 4 And what's funny about those hats is like every city has the one area code that they look at and they're like, that area code should not be on this hat. The bad area code.

Speaker 3 This is so ridiculous some of it is the idea like i don't hate the idea of having other things on the hat it's just too much it's way too much well you can't have the numbers and the like and like look at the astronomy yeah like the

Speaker 4 fuck i i kind of disagree hank because you can't have like two area codes on there you can have

Speaker 4 none you can have you should have one you should have the one that the the the stadium is in but you should not yeah but there's you should either you should either do one or you should do all of them like i would absolutely buy a hat that just said hose on the front and then listed every single area code that Ludacris mentioned in that song.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, this is, I'm looking at this. This is, I like some of the,

Speaker 3 what are these? These are almost like bitmojis on it are actually not bad. Like, I think, like, I just saw Kansas City with a trumpet.
I don't know, is that a big thing in Kansas City? Trumpets?

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure. What is the Minnesota one? Is it a golf course? Is that a lake? It must be a lake.

Speaker 4 There was one, I think.

Speaker 3 The Angels one's kind of clean.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, that's because they don't have anything to put on there for the Angels.

Speaker 4 I think they actually just left out some of the designs that were on the other hats on the Angels piece.

Speaker 3 There's an Orca whale on the Mariners and a cup of coffee. I'd buy that.
And just for the cup of coffee. I need to buy it.
I need to make a hat that just has a cup of coffee.

Speaker 3 Chicago says Chicago and Chi-Town. And it has the flag, and which, like, the flag is good.
Like, that would be a cool hat if you put that on the back. Uh, yeah, this is, these are stupid.

Speaker 3 Okay, good job, uh, everyone on the internet for roasting them and getting this off.

Speaker 4 I appreciate it. Oh, this is a good one.
Somebody

Speaker 4 put up a hat of the Astros, and on one side it's got the area codes, and on the other, trash can.

Speaker 3 Ooh, nice, nice.

Speaker 3 All right, so let's get to who's back. Or, sorry, Hot C Coulterone.

Speaker 3 Should we watch this? I mean, the Mavs are going to win. Yeah, so the Mavs are up to nothing.

Speaker 4 Oh, the Atlanta hat is pretty sick. The Atlanta hat has a peach.
It looks like the Peach emoji, so just an ass on the side. And then

Speaker 4 it's got a UFO in the front with an alien and it says ATL, like the AT alien.

Speaker 3 That's cool. I would have bought that.
Yeah, these area coats are very funny. Like,

Speaker 3 I'm looking at the Cubs hat, and they have like 618, which is like,

Speaker 3 that's basically all Cardinals fans.

Speaker 4 You you know what though stay woke stay this just hit me

Speaker 4 i bet you new era did this intentionally pulled them off the market fans they were trending because the next time they drop a hat everyone's going to buy it immediately because they'll be like this might only be up for a half hour because the people that jumped on this one they they're probably going to be able to resell those hats that's true the new beanie babies yeah stay very woke on this always looking for the new beanie babies it is funny that we basically are recreating beanie babies with nfts NFTs.

Speaker 3 Yeah, NFC, Dogecoin, Pop. Cass, MILF coin, crypto punks.

Speaker 4 Cum Rocket. Yeah.

Speaker 3 MILF coin. I might buy a MILF coin.

Speaker 4 I purchased several cum rockets

Speaker 4 at the peak of the cum bubble, and it popped, deflated. And then I did cum swaps, and I had to change back and buy more Dogecoin.
This is all true, by the way.

Speaker 3 These are all real sentences

Speaker 3 put together.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. All right.
That game's over. So the Clippers lost.
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 All right. Let's get to

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Speaker 3 Hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is Shannon Sharp. Okay.

Speaker 3 Illegal. One of the guys in Undisputed broke the law yesterday.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Called Julio Jones, Julio Jones,

Speaker 3 was asking him, talking to him, asked him if he was going to be in Atlanta next year. Julio Jones said, nah, I'm out of there.

Speaker 3 Then after that, Shannon Sharp was like, oh, we're on Undisputed right now. This is being recorded.

Speaker 3 California follows the two-party law where it's like if you're recording someone, if you're on the phone with someone, you're recording it, they have to know about it beforehand. Yep.

Speaker 3 So he broke the law. He broke the law.
Unless it was a work, which some people think it was a work.

Speaker 4 I think it was absolutely a work. I think that Julio Jones knew it was coming.
They had discussed it. And then he did a great job of pretending that he didn't know because it's the ultimate out.

Speaker 4 Aaron Rodgers is kicking himself right now for not being best friends with Shannon Sharp and taking a phone call in the air because this is a very effective passive-aggressive move that you can use.

Speaker 3 It's so aggressive.

Speaker 3 It's such an aggressive

Speaker 3 move. Deep down, I think it's a work, but the things that are on the other side of the argument is Julio Jones doesn't do media.
He like doesn't do.

Speaker 3 When was the last time you heard a Julio Jones interview? He doesn't really do anything with the media, so that makes me feel like maybe it wasn't a work. I don't know.
It's got me twisted.

Speaker 3 Kudos to Shannon for breaking the law, going to jail, but getting great ratings. And also.
Should we try it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, with who?

Speaker 3 Julio Jones? I'm strong. We've got to think of someone.
Let's see. Oh, you know who we'll do it with?

Speaker 3 You know who we'll we'll do it with because not to steal your cool throne, why don't you say your cool throne real quick? PFT will hop around.

Speaker 4 My cool throne was just going to be NFL training camp in general. Yes.
And

Speaker 4 pictures? Yeah,

Speaker 4 pictures of players. What are we getting at here?

Speaker 3 We're getting at Josh Allen wearing a visor. Okay, yeah.
So let's try to call Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 See if he's unhappy with his equipment management.

Speaker 3 Yeah, see if the visor is sticking because we know that a visor quarterback will not win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yes, you're the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 You should be wearing a hat.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So wait, should I say live to tape or not?

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 3 ask him and then be like, oh, we're live to tape, by the way. Okay.

Speaker 3 I don't know if I've ever called Josh Allen, so I don't know if he'd pick up. Oh, no, we did with the kid who was came.
Oh, yeah. Hello.
Hey, hey, Josh, what's up? It's your good friend, Big Cat.

Speaker 3 Best friend, how are you doing? Oh, best friends. I love it.
Hey, dude, I saw you in a visor. Are you going to...

Speaker 3 Are you a visor guy now?

Speaker 3 I've flirted with the idea of being a visor guy.

Speaker 3 I'm looking into it, looking at the statistics.

Speaker 3 No visor quarterback has ever been. Yeah, no visor quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl, just a heads up.

Speaker 3 Correct. So

Speaker 3 that's what's throwing me off. Okay, so

Speaker 3 no visor or visor?

Speaker 3 I like going visor for practice, and then for the games, I take it off because I don't like sweat. Okay, all right, that's perfect.
That's fine. Perfect.
Great answer.

Speaker 3 Also, we're taping you right now. This was our Mox Shannon Sharp Julio Jones situation.
Gotcha. Okay.

Speaker 3 Is that illegal?

Speaker 3 Uh, no, I figured you were. You sound like you got your shit.
I heard people behind you. I heard you had your reporter microphones and fucking.
Yeah, it was my professional podcasting voice.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're also in the same state, so I think.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're in the same state, so it's legal.

Speaker 4 I could murder you.

Speaker 3 It's fine. Yeah, we were nervous, though, for real, like, about the visor, because we saw it.
You looked cool, like, really cool.

Speaker 3 But the statistics show maybe, you know what? Wear the visor up until the Super Bowl and then just take it it off for the Super Bowl. Yeah, I guess I can do that.
But I am a little superstitious.

Speaker 3 So I don't know. I don't know if I can do that.
It's either all or nothing. All right, so let's say nothing.
Let's just report the news right now. Breaking news.
Josh Allen, visor in practice.

Speaker 3 It looks cool, but he will be visor-less when we start, kick off the season. I put good betting odds on that, yes.
Okay, love it. Thank you, Josh.

Speaker 4 I'm very happy to know that. It was great to talk to you.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Josh.

Speaker 3 We'll talk soon. We need to get you on again soon.

Speaker 4 Well, he's on right now.

Speaker 3 Oh, he just hung up on me. That's going to go so viral.
That's going to go so viral.

Speaker 4 I actually think it'd be fucking hilarious if Shannon Sharp went to prison for this. And you know what? If they do that, they should have him call into the show.

Speaker 3 I mean, him coming out of jail would be amazing content.

Speaker 4 They've recorded albums via jail, just like on the you are now receiving a collect call from Shannon Sharp. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 They should just do the show that way and have Skip debate Shannon from prison. Right.
Fuck yeah. Yes.
I mean, that's triple the ratings right there. Yeah.
You want to play this?

Speaker 4 You want to take it to its logical extent as almost like a WWE type show? Send Shannon to jail. Yes.

Speaker 3 Officially on the record, because I feel like it's going to come out one way or the other. What's your official stance?

Speaker 12 Fake, real or work?

Speaker 4 Julio knew that it was going to happen.

Speaker 3 I'd say he didn't.

Speaker 3 Fuck, man. This one's got me twisted.

Speaker 3 I'd say he knew. I'll say he knew.

Speaker 4 And you're saying he didn't.

Speaker 3 I'm saying he didn't. Yeah, it just feels like it would be kind of fucked up to do that.
I mean, we just did it to Josh Allen. Right.
It was fucked up. And it was fucked up.
It was very fucked up.

Speaker 3 It's going to go crazy. It is going to go crazy viral.
Not a visor guy. Speaking of crazy viral.

Speaker 4 I like that, though. I do like that our stupid ass take has actually like trickled its way up to being a real thing where now quarterbacks are afraid to wear visors.

Speaker 3 Right, right. He did this.
He said he did. He said probably though.

Speaker 3 I think in his mind, I think he was trying to be nice because in his mind, he would have said definitely not, but he said that's probably not going to happen, which to me means like he might want to still wear the visor.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 4 if Josh Allen

Speaker 3 break the record, break the visor.

Speaker 4 If the malaise is complete with a visor, I will kill a debutante. Just a fact.

Speaker 3 And then my cool throne. Are you okay? No, I was trying to

Speaker 4 fix it, though, apparently.

Speaker 3 Coors Light

Speaker 3 74 packs, 37,000 gallons delivered.

Speaker 3 My Cool Throne, as first reported by Gleonard Balls, is Guy Fieri.

Speaker 4 Shout out, guys.

Speaker 3 Huge contract. Signed a three-year, $80 million contract extension.
I went to Twitter to just get the numbers, and Glennie Balls' tweet has 3,000 retweets and 7,000 favorites.

Speaker 3 He actually broke this news. Holy shit!

Speaker 4 Is that guaranteed? How does that work at Food Network?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Is that like NFL numbers or is this like NBA? Because when I see

Speaker 4 more like NBA, yeah, that's what I thought, too. When I see three years, 80 million, that's Harrison Barnes' numbers.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what Harrison Barnes kept.

Speaker 3 I saw it and immediately I was like, did the cap go up? Like, what's going on with this contract? Oh, it's a bargain. Yeah, no, it is a bargain, but it also is like, it's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 It's a lot of guaranteed money.

Speaker 4 By the end of year three, Guy's going to be wanting to return.

Speaker 3 Is it guaranteed against injury?

Speaker 3 What if he gets

Speaker 3 chronic acid reflux and he can't perform his duty?

Speaker 4 Too much flavor?

Speaker 4 What if he gets his tongue burned? Right. God forbid he can't taste anymore.

Speaker 3 Do you think he probably has an insurance on his mouth?

Speaker 4 Yeah, when you you eat pussy like that guy

Speaker 3 if you're the food network though you gotta you know you gotta have your guy you gotta have a star i love to compete you need to have it it's good for the league everyone a rising tide lifts all boats like everyone else next thing you know giato de laurentis is gonna get a new contract

Speaker 3 rachel ray rachel ray

Speaker 3 uh no probably not him adam what's his name the van verse food adam richmond different channel

Speaker 4 but it's alton brown alton brown by the way is controlling all this shit from behind the scenes i have a feeling like alton brown just sits on a a throne of money all day and decides.

Speaker 4 He's the capologist for the food network.

Speaker 3 Chef Tom Calicio? Mm-hmm. Padma.

Speaker 4 Padma. Shout out Padma.

Speaker 3 Shout out Padma. Bonk, Bonk.
Yes. That's fine.
Well, I just shouted her out as a host.

Speaker 3 You shouted her out as a

Speaker 3 sex icon.

Speaker 4 As a host, as an elegant woman.

Speaker 3 Yes. Speaking of bonk, my other cool throw-in was crowdfights.

Speaker 4 Oh, dude.

Speaker 3 There was a huge girls' fight in the White Sox game last night. Oh, and a guy's fight.
And a guy's fight.

Speaker 3 So it was a brawl. It It was an all-out brawl.

Speaker 4 Did they have bleachers in the South?

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was a moment that

Speaker 3 the guys ripped each other's shirts off, and you have to stop the fight then because no one's body was ready for summer.

Speaker 3 And it was like, I'd rather take a million punches to the face than have my bent over fat gut without a shirt on like falling over seats in the outfield.

Speaker 4 I always feel like if there's a fight and your shirt gets ripped off, it's okay if you're a little bit overweight, if you're pudgy, but you have to have a tattoo.

Speaker 3 A neck tat or back tattoo.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you got like a shoulder tat, but you're that overweight, then it's like that guy's tough.

Speaker 3 Rock and roll. Exactly.

Speaker 4 That guy lives a fast lifestyle.

Speaker 3 He probably just does some crazy shit.

Speaker 4 What I loved about that guy fight is what you usually see in a woman fight is somebody like, I don't know what it is. I guess just all your

Speaker 4 sense of morality and all your sense of like modesty goes out the window if you're a woman in a fight and there's shirts that get ripped off and they don't stop to like put them back on in the middle of the fight because you're swinging.

Speaker 4 these guys almost had their just dicks pop out in the middle of the fight, but they didn't even think about pulling up their pants. No, like, I gotta take care of business first, yeah.

Speaker 3 Just slow, slow punches, and just trying to. I don't know, I think you get to a level of like most guys, uh, get in those fights just hoping that someone will break it up as quickly as possible.

Speaker 3 Yep, because you, you know in the back of your head, like, I shouldn't be doing this, I'm gonna do it, but please, please, security, get here quickly so that I can then go home and be like, if security didn't show up, I would have fucked that guy up.

Speaker 4 There was definitely one point in that fight where the guy who was doing the beatdown at the start of the video got pinned against a chair. And then you could see he started looking around.

Speaker 4 He's like, why isn't this

Speaker 4 fight's over? I already won when I hit him twice.

Speaker 4 And now this is not supposed to be happening to me. I almost wonder what would happen if you just, if security guards kind of made a pact.
Like, we've got a tough job. Just let them.

Speaker 4 If they're slovenly enough and they're drunk enough, just let them tire each other out. They'll probably become best friends after the fight.

Speaker 3 Right. And the fights in stadiums, it's always just whoever's got the high ground.
Every single time.

Speaker 3 If you can get the high ground, you will win all the time.

Speaker 4 Do you remember that lady from Alabama?

Speaker 3 Who just dove down like 10 flights of stairs?

Speaker 4 The absolute best.

Speaker 3 The best. The best.

Speaker 4 Great move.

Speaker 3 All right. Those are great, Hank.
You did a good job, Hank.

Speaker 3 Is Hank back? I think Hank is back. Never left.
Yeah. No? A little bit.
No, yeah. Jake has been taking a vacation.
I think it's really just a vacation. I think he did a great job.

Speaker 4 He did a great job. All right, Jake gives you a good update.

Speaker 3 Now I can agree that you did a great job. Very cool.

Speaker 4 And a new Hank yawn just dropped earlier, too.

Speaker 3 Oh, shit. A remix?

Speaker 4 It was a new style, yeah.

Speaker 3 You should, next time we get in studio with Sony Digital, we should definitely get your yawns. Same word.

Speaker 4 All right, PFD.

Speaker 3 We did your cool throwing, but what's your hot seat?

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Coney.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's right. Coney 2012?

Speaker 4 I'm putting Coney on the hot seat this week jake and i just did a little a little hit in the uh stool stream stadium booth and i just i like like a flash of light that hit me like i was touched from the lord above i remembered kony yeah and we really dropped the ball on kony yeah in 2012 there was that video that went around we were gonna find his ass he was putting child soldiers out there he was basically kidnapping an entire country's worth of youth and then a youtube video went out and we were all gonna find him it was a it was the last time that the whole world was was pulling together on the same side of the rope.

Speaker 4 And we just, we took our eye off the ball, and we never found Coney. And I feel like I forgot about Coney, too.

Speaker 4 But now that I've been reawoken to Coney, I'd like to encourage everybody out there, if you've seen Coney, please report him to the authorities. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I think that we can find, with the reach that this podcast has, I think that we can find his ass.

Speaker 3 Let's find his ass.

Speaker 4 Find Coney 2021.

Speaker 3 Tony was the original, I think for me, thing that I was generally aware of, but not aware enough or cared enough to actually look into it. Oh, still same.

Speaker 3 So I'm still talking about Coney, and I didn't know until PFT brought it up 20 minutes ago that he was a bad guy. Oh, yeah.
I thought it was like a good thing. Oh, like a marketing thing.

Speaker 3 Like Coney 2012, like, no, we're going to do this shit.

Speaker 4 It's like avoid the noise.

Speaker 3 No, it was a bad thing.

Speaker 3 So, like, why were they being like, I don't know about the date attached? I don't remember.

Speaker 4 Because we were going to get him in 2012. That was the whole point.
It's like before, this is the year of getting Coney.

Speaker 3 But no, I've never seen anyone else ever have like a like cancel date hashtag like sounds like you're a hater and that you are part of the reason why we never found Coney in 2012 what about when Justine was on the flight she had a cancel but it wasn't like Justine 706 p.m.

Speaker 3 when it was no but it was just would just had Justine landed when she landed right but that was like informative yeah she was like why what happened that was Tony 2012 was like who is this guy looking back on him then the guy just went nuts and I think he got like arrested for jacking off in the streets Austin.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Coney.

Speaker 4 No, well, I wish. I wish, because then his ass would be gotten.

Speaker 3 But no, this is the guy that was looking for Coney.

Speaker 4 The guy that was looking.

Speaker 3 Now I'm looking for Coney. Now Coney's in a world of audience.

Speaker 3 I should be on Coney's side.

Speaker 3 I think I'm on Coney's side. I don't know.
Let's

Speaker 3 Jake. Probably.
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 Don't think you want to be on Coney's side.

Speaker 3 You never know.

Speaker 3 That's okay. You know what? Jump into it.
And then if you were wrong, just not sap it.

Speaker 3 You know what? I made some statements on the podcast. And now that I've learned.
This is until proven guilty, all right? That's that's actually really big right now with

Speaker 4 like world affairs everyone just hopping in and then immediately being like I've read more about it somebody's got to have the other take yeah what you do yeah what we just did right now was a true crime podcast on Coney yeah and this is the second to last episode where Hank's like maybe he's not all that bad maybe I've fallen in love with him you know what he's essentially just like a really good coach yeah kids have to have role models Jake anything on Coney

Speaker 8 bad guy I would lean I don't know all the facts, but I'm going to be an anti-Coney person.

Speaker 3 Oh, anti-Coney officials. That's not very cool.
I heard Andrew Susiano was a big Coney guy.

Speaker 3 All right. He's allowed to have his opinion on us.

Speaker 4 I mean, say what you want about the... He gave out a lot of meals.
He gives kids.

Speaker 3 I don't know anything about Coney. It's crazy.
I don't really know. I know it, but I don't.

Speaker 4 All I know is that we have to get him, big cat. Yeah, we do.
We got to get him.

Speaker 4 And that's real talk.

Speaker 4 My Cool Throne was going to just be like pictures of players at training camps, just training camp storylines or OTA storylines because the NFL has their rookies and they've got a lot of new free agent additions that are making their debuts wearing the uniform.

Speaker 4 So basically, you get the rookie take of this guy's already showing signs of leadership.

Speaker 4 You get the like,

Speaker 4 no, that's usually like a free agent, like a new free agent comes in town. Like this guy has already kind of taken control of his position group, is leading the guys through.

Speaker 4 Then you get like the rookie take. You get the Joe Burrow take.
He's got new teeth and he's coming back from injury. He looks great.

Speaker 3 Justin Fields had the like he was better than expected. Yeah.
Which was really just a way of the Bears saying he threw it more than 20 yards.

Speaker 4 And you also get the rookie take of like, for some reason, local beat reporters love to find like the thickest rookie that they have.

Speaker 3 A.J. Dillon? Yeah, AJ Dillon.
He's not a rookie, but yeah.

Speaker 4 But they love to find like one thick player. Yeah.
Actually, Justin Fields was kind of like that for the Bears press, too.

Speaker 3 Look at his ass. Look at his legs.

Speaker 4 They're like, look at these thick calves. Damn.
Yeah, they just all need a bonker.

Speaker 3 All right, my hot seat is Aaron Rodgers. Well, actually, no, it's the Packers front office, which wasn't really a surprise, but he went on Kenny Main's last sports center, and he said,

Speaker 3 with my situation, it's never been about the draft pick picking Jordan. I love Jordan.
He's a great kid. We've had a lot of fun to work together.
Love the coaching staff. Love my teammates.

Speaker 3 Love the fan base in Green Bay in incredible 16 years. It's just kind of about the philosophy and maybe forgetting that it's about the people that makes the things go.

Speaker 3 It's about character, it's about culture, it's about doing their things the right way.

Speaker 4 I don't, this statement makes no sense. Does he know what the word love means?

Speaker 3 Well, not only that, but if you love your teammates and you love your coaching staff, you're not really showing it by like hanging everything in the wind for your teammates and your coaching staff.

Speaker 3 And I would make the argument that the the philosophy and the culture for the Packers, I'm going to say something nice about the Packers, so everyone be alert.

Speaker 3 That's why they have had success is because they are an organization that is always looking forward instead of like, ooh, Band-Aid, like the old saying, the best time to get a quarterback is when you don't need one.

Speaker 3 That's what they did. So

Speaker 3 Aaron Rodgers has benefited from the Packers' culture, organizational culture. But now he doesn't like it.

Speaker 4 I also am getting a lot of like really, really desperate vibes from the Packers recently. Not a good look from Matt LaFleur and the Packers front.
Just basically saying, Aaron, please come back.

Speaker 4 We miss you. Right.
Like, you've got to treat Aaron Rodgers a little bit like dirt, and he'll stick to you like mud.

Speaker 4 I think he's being pushed away from all the over-the-top love that they've been demonstrating to him recently.

Speaker 3 I also, it's funny. He's like, I love Jordan Love, and he's a great kid.

Speaker 3 If they, I saw someone like threw out the idea, hey, trade Jordan Love to the Falcons for Julio Jones. You don't think Aaron Rodgers would be back wearing the uniform like two seconds later?

Speaker 4 Yeah, probably would be. Right.
Probably. So I think I don't necessarily believe him when he says that he loves having Jordan Love on the team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but he was, that was a very particular

Speaker 3 line that he threw out there that was essentially listed. He like listed everyone except the front off.

Speaker 4 What do you think would happen if the Packers were to be like, you know what? Fuck Aaron. If he's not here, we're just going to proceed without him.

Speaker 4 And then they have Jordan Love taking like all the first team reps. And they're like, we're just going to proceed like Jordan's going to be our starter going into into next season.

Speaker 4 I actually think that it would make it more likely for Aaron Rodgers to come back to the team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'd agree because, yeah, I mean, he, I don't think he wants to retire, and that would basically be like, go ahead and retire, we're not trading you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like, throw up some thirst trap pictures on the main account. Yeah, have Aaron start looking at Jordan Love's quads and be like, damn, new girl's pretty good.
I got to get back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Ooh, and Blake is there, too.

Speaker 4 Blake's there, too.

Speaker 3 All right, my other hot seat is this fucking fraud Philadelphia 600-foot sub

Speaker 3 cheese steak. It drove me insane.

Speaker 3 You say that like everyone knows what okay, so yeah. No, well, so it was a big deal.
It was a pretty big deal. It shut down city blocks in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 I don't know who created it, but they were long?

Speaker 3 They were going to break a Guinness

Speaker 3 book of world records for longest cheese steak, and they had 600 feet worth of cheese steak literally shut down like three or four blocks.

Speaker 3 But then when you look at it and you zoom it in, it's just a bunch of regular cheese steaks foot-long cheese steaks stacked up next to each other it it's ridiculous to say but you know what it's mental health month so it's okay it's okay to not be okay it's okay to admit when things make you mad this made me mad the fact that they thought they could get away with this made me very mad as well it should if you make a 600 foot cheese steak it has to be connected i would also like to add in that 600 feet really isn't that long for a world record two Two football fees?

Speaker 4 I would assume that the city of Philadelphia at some point has put together a larger cheesesteak than that. That's honestly like 600 feet is beneath Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 They can do so much better. I know.

Speaker 3 I hope that we get a hero who's like, no pun intended,

Speaker 3 who's like,

Speaker 3 you know what?

Speaker 3 The city of Philadelphia deserves better. I'm making a thousand-foot cheesesteak and it's all one piece of bread.
Yes. It's just a conveyor belt oven and just slowly make it.

Speaker 4 Like, what the hell is Jeff Bezos doing with all that money that he guaranteed the city of Philadelphia for his Amazon HQ2? That's what I would do if I was a billionaire.

Speaker 4 I would just travel to various towns and give them world records.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just make the biggest things.

Speaker 4 I would yeah, and also

Speaker 4 Okay, 600 feet with it's a it's a perfectly fine cheesesteak

Speaker 3 and they all are like

Speaker 3 different bread. Would would there be like is somebody going to eat this? Yes.
Well, the way they're Twitter and one guy he posted a video of the aftermath. Everyone ate it.
Because

Speaker 3 all they did was just make

Speaker 3 600 subs. That's just a Tuesday in Philadelphia.
It's a huge. Like, if you go to a pizza place in Philadelphia or a cheesesteak place, I guarantee you Gino's and Pats make 600 cheesesteaks in a day.

Speaker 4 Yeah, honestly, it wasn't even close to looking like a sandwich.

Speaker 3 No, I'm very mad about it. It has bothered me all day, and I need justice.
So Philadelphia, please step up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and we're not blaming Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, no. Philadelphia is.

Speaker 4 They're probably angrier than we are.

Speaker 3 Oh, they disavowed. They disavowed this guy.
The only record he set was that

Speaker 3 it was basically the most

Speaker 3 blocks taken up by a cheesesteak-related incident. That's the world.
I'm also surprised. Shut down.

Speaker 4 I would have thought there would have been riots that had taken up. Yes,

Speaker 3 someone treated me. It was like, I live around the corner, and it was a pain in the ass that day.
Yeah. So that's the only ⁇ give them that record and nothing else.

Speaker 3 My cool throne is our good friend, friend of the program, recurring guest, Spencer Hawes, because he's back.

Speaker 3 He's playing in the big three. Oh, I didn't see that.
He announced it on his Instagram yesterday.

Speaker 4 Very excited. What team is he on?

Speaker 3 I don't know if he's been assigned a team yet, but I think it's Seattle

Speaker 3 something.

Speaker 3 Supersonics?

Speaker 4 Seattle.

Speaker 3 The Needles. The Needles.
The Needles.

Speaker 4 The Needle Exchange.

Speaker 3 I'm very excited, though, because this actually is a reason for us to be rooting and watching the Big Three is to watch Spencer. I like that.
So we will get a jersey of that team.

Speaker 3 We will be diehard that team and no other team. I take that back.
The first words of his Instagram post said Seattle, Washington, but that was just where he was. Seattle, Washington.

Speaker 3 Where he was posting from. That would be a very confusing Ballhogs.
He's on the Ballhogs.

Speaker 8 Brian Scalabrini, Leandro Barbosa.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 4 okay. So two out of three recurring guests? Yeah.
Do they only have three players?

Speaker 3 No, I think they're four or five on a team. So I'm excited.
Rick and Barry. He's back.
Okay. He's back.
So this will be great. I want to see Spencer win the big three championship.

Speaker 3 It now, if Spencer wins the big three championship, we will be celebrating like it was one of our teams winning the big three championship.

Speaker 4 Oh, there will be a banner raised somewhere. Yes,

Speaker 3 in here, in this office, in the studio, probably one in Spencer's house. We will give him a banner night, we will give him confetti, we'll make him a 600-foot sub.

Speaker 3 We'll do everything for Spencer Haus. We are ride or die.

Speaker 3 I mean, they're not going to win with Brian Scalabrini and Landry. Did he come on the show one time?

Speaker 3 No, he's been on the show many times. Yeah.

Speaker 3 In person, grit stream, other times.

Speaker 4 exit interview.

Speaker 3 We went to his house. I know.
I'm just I was trying to think back. He made us a great salmon dinner.
I'm saying, I know he's we're very close with him. I love Spencer.
We DM on Instagram.

Speaker 3 I was just thinking for the listeners that you know, maybe they're like, wait. I feel like we bring him up a fair amount, though, every time we talk about Seattle.

Speaker 3 It's basically like, oh, yeah, we got that one friend in Seattle.

Speaker 4 We keep him in the conversation.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we talked about him on Monday when we just said how miserable it is to be a Mariners fan, which shout out to people in Seattle.

Speaker 4 I heard twice in 2016, you guys had them on.

Speaker 3 There we go. Twice in 2016.

Speaker 3 Grit stream. Well, you know what? We'll have him on again because we've got to figure out.
Spencer, oh, wait, no, he already announced he's on the Ballhogs, right? Yep.

Speaker 4 I'm looking at the other teams right now. He's got a shot.

Speaker 3 Maybe we call Spencer right before and we get him to say that he's sick of being on the Ballhogs and he's going to the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay, we'll do that. Jake, your hot seat cool throwing.

Speaker 8 Hot seat is Georgetown. PFT tweeted this out earlier.
Max Scherzer was just tossing in the outfield while Georgetown was having the graduation. So

Speaker 8 all their attention, they work hard for four years. Just Scherzer's taking it.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 4 so you're siding with the private school kids.

Speaker 3 Interesting.

Speaker 4 No. $160,000 a year tuition.

Speaker 3 Wait, so you're saying that he was upstaging them. I think that's a cool thing.
You're just saying that they should be paying attention to the speakers at the graduation. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Scherzer

Speaker 3 stole their spotlight. But I think it'd be cool to be like, oh yeah, when I graduated, Scherzer was throwing he's going to be a famer.
Yeah. That's cool for them.

Speaker 3 Sounds like you don't like it. Sounds like you want to respect higher education.

Speaker 8 Well, it's also Georgetown, big rival.

Speaker 3 How important was your graduation day to you? It was nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was so hungover. I did not want to be miserable, miserable.

Speaker 4 I wanted to get it over with.

Speaker 3 I remember being so, and like some dude who

Speaker 3 no one had heard of did the commencement speech, and I was just like, this fucking sucks.

Speaker 4 A mathematician gave mine. Yeah.
A mathematician.

Speaker 3 I think mine was like a Broadway guy. I don't know.
I can't remember. Mine's going to be lit.
Yours is going to be lit, Hank. And then Scott Van Pelhar

Speaker 3 did the Madison commencement the next semester. I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 No, but I think it's cool. Like, there are schools that should go out of their way to do this to just have Mac Scherzer throw bullpen sessions at their commencement ceremony.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
What are you looking up?

Speaker 8 I was looking who did our commencement. Jeff Glore from CBS Evening News.

Speaker 3 Oh. Oh, wow.
Did you guys audience? Don't forget.

Speaker 3 Cool Throne

Speaker 3 as I rushed to look that off. Yeah.
Whoops. Sorry.
It obviously meant a lot to you.

Speaker 8 Yes, it did. It was nice having my family there.
That's what I remember about that.

Speaker 3 That is. Cool Throne.
He just rolled his eyes so hard. He rolled them out of the back of his head.

Speaker 3 Cool Throne is Africa.

Speaker 3 The NBA.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Coney, we found him already.

Speaker 8 The NBA has formed a new entity, and some of their investors are some of your Bulls guys.

Speaker 3 Joseph Denoa. Oh, nice.

Speaker 3 Little Dang, yeah.

Speaker 8 Grant Hill, Dekeme, Matumbo.

Speaker 3 They're doing

Speaker 3 NBA Africa. Oh, nice.
Grow the game. That is awesome.

Speaker 4 So they're going to have like different countries with different teams?

Speaker 8 I'm not positive. Shams broke the news yesterday.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 8 If I get more information, I'll be sure to reply.

Speaker 3 I love it.

Speaker 4 I hope Acon's country gets a team. Yep.
Acon probably is just spearheading this entire thing.

Speaker 3 I hope Kevin Bacon is part of it. They are up there.
Yeah. Great movie.

Speaker 3 Which I don't think was a movie. Do you think that one holds up? No, I think that was a movie that when I was a kid, I was like, this is a great movie.
And then, like, no, it's not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just don't think that one in today's day and age.

Speaker 3 No, probably not. It'd be a much more topic.
Movies that don't hold up. Yeah, movies.
Yeah. Yeah.
That we thought were awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, number one for me is The Net Sander Bullet.

Speaker 3 Ooh.

Speaker 4 Great movie. But now it's one of those that you look back on and it's the first stages of the internet and they get everything wrong.

Speaker 3 Yeah. About the internet.
It's actually very funny. I saw a clip the other day of Good Morning America from like 1996 and Brian Gumbel and Katie Kirk were like, What's this at with a circle symbol?

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, what do you do? You just talk to people online?

Speaker 4 The email address, yeah.

Speaker 4 The opening scene in the net with Sandra Bullock sitting in her house ordering pizza online, and then it shows up, and you're supposed to be like, What a loser she is that she doesn't even interact with anybody outside of her home.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 3 It's like, wait, no, that's that sounds awesome. That's paradise.
That's Friday night.

Speaker 4 That's exactly correct, actually, what the internet has done for me.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interview with Muggsy Bokes. Before we do that, PFT, you got a quick word.

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Speaker 4 Here he is, Muggsy Bogues.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is former NBA player,

Speaker 3 probably one of the top fan favorites of all time. It is Muggsy Bogues.
I actually want to start there. I don't know if you saw this, Muggsy, but yesterday you were trending on Twitter.

Speaker 3 Did you see that? Oh, no, I did not.

Speaker 7 What was I trending about?

Speaker 3 You were trending on Twitter because there's a...

Speaker 3 a prompt that some some Twitter handles will do where they basically just tweet a logo and they say first person you think of when you see this logo and it was the Charlotte Hornets logo And

Speaker 3 if you get mentioned enough, you start trending. And I actually agree with that, that when I see the Charlotte Hornets old logo, I think Muggsy bugs.
So credit to you.

Speaker 7 Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't know if I should look at that. It makes you feel older.
Makes you feel old.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 I think you're still relevant.

Speaker 4 It just means like when you see that logo, like you're so intertwined with that image that like when I see that, I'm just like, that's Muggsy's logo. You are the Hornet.

Speaker 7 I appreciate that. I do feel like a little sting, a little bead.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 4 I love it. So, Muggsy, you were a personal hero of mine growing up.

Speaker 4 Just like a little backstory, when I was 12 and everybody else grew and I didn't, my dad went to Blockbuster and rented me a copy of Don't Tell Me No, the Muggsy Bogue story.

Speaker 4 Came back, and my dad was like, see,

Speaker 4 you can still make it as a professional athlete.

Speaker 4 Can you give my dad a refund? Because that wasn't true at all.

Speaker 7 Well, at the time, you know, know he was giving you inspiration to believe that you can become whoever you want and look at you you know it has all sorts of elements that come with the game of basketball and here it is you get hosting your own show so you got to look you got to be credited you got to give credit to your dad yeah yeah you never know it's like that that song like god bless the broken road if i was six feet two inches tall like i might not be here i might be in the nba wasting my life hey you know hey we all have a journey and you know and we all have a path to follow And we found our way and we landed where we supposed to.

Speaker 7 And this is where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 4 How do you think that your game would translate to today's NBA with the style change that's happened in the last, you know, like 15, 20 years?

Speaker 7 Well, I think any NBA player feels like they can play in any era, especially in this era where it's not as physical. But you got a lot of skill set that's...
has never been showcased before.

Speaker 7 You got seven footers now bringing the basketball up the court and shooting the ball behind the three, where back in our day it was you know a seven footer was playing with his back toward the basket um so the games has evolved in that in that regards and the athletes has well uh has so as well um but again you know skill set is skill set um people love the fast type of tempo game right now and they love seeing a lot of scoring and it kind of takes away a little bit from the defensive uh aspect of it to where it is is not as physical as it once was yeah what uh i assume you're watching the nba playoffs who's your favorite team to watch or your favorite player to watch?

Speaker 7 Well, I love watching basketball. You know, I love watching it all.
Of course, you know, I got some unbiased. You know, the Steph Curry is no longer there.

Speaker 7 And, of course, Chris Paul is still there in terms of my Wake Falls connection. But I just like the game.
I love, of course, the LeBron James and the ADs and

Speaker 7 West Brooks and so forth. But I'm also liking what Milwaukee is doing.
You know, I like the addition of Drew Holiday and with PJ Tucker. And I think

Speaker 7 Miami will give them a big fight, a big challenge for them to get prepared for what they're going to have to be ready for, you know, going forward with the, you know, saying with the Brooklyn Nets. So

Speaker 7 I like what's happening in the East. And in the West, I mean, it's wide open.
The Lakers, unfortunately,

Speaker 7 going through their struggles. But I think they'll bounce back tonight.

Speaker 7 I'm expecting them to come back, come out the west.

Speaker 3 So you mentioned Steph Curry. Obviously, you knew him as a little kid.
Is it wild to see him like playing and dominating the NBA now?

Speaker 7 It is crazy, but I've gotten used to it. But, you know,

Speaker 7 knowing him as a child, as a kid,

Speaker 7 and, you know, just knowing his passion for the game, you never even thought that he'd be at this level.

Speaker 7 But you got to credit to him, his parents, I mean, his dedication to it and, you know, his resilience in terms of knowing what he was capable of doing on that basketball court, even though people was doubting him.

Speaker 7 And here it is, you know, the two-time, you know, one unanimous MVP, two-time MVP, a three-time champion. I mean, that's within this, within that breath, you know, it's hard to say.

Speaker 7 But just to be here, the witnesses, I'm proud of him.

Speaker 3 I actually saw a story that Steph Curry said you were his favorite player growing up. So you should take credit for his entire career.

Speaker 7 Well, you know, we've been around each other for so long. You know, me and Dale played 11 years together.
And Steph and my kids played, I grew up together, and we were really close friends.

Speaker 7 I mean, close net family. but just seeing him and he saw a small guy out there pursuing his dreams and you know he was considered small stature wise you know by not being

Speaker 7 muscular in that sort of way and just being so thin so he was looked upon as a small guy so he had some kind of similarities that he can relate to and he took advantage of so since you were his favorite player did did he ever want to play against you one-on-one did you ever like show him a thing or two when he was a little kid of course we played against each other several times I mean when you the way he was he was a gym rat he just loved being in the in the gym I mean we was nine years with Charlotte and two years with Toronto so of course

Speaker 7 Steph and I had many chances of many times of playing one-on-one or two-on-two with Steph and him Seth and my son and we had a lot uh playing on the Lord Nerf ball the Lord Nerf yeah uh hoops we had a lot of good hooping times on on those

Speaker 7 on that time. So, you know, I'm just happy to see this young fella doing what he's doing.

Speaker 3 Do you think there'll ever be an NBA player that is your height, 5-3? I mean, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 I think, you know, people who are maybe younger who don't remember when you were playing, just how remarkable it was, how skilled you were to make the NBA in a league where now it feels like every guy's 6-3 or above.

Speaker 3 Do you think we'll ever see that again? Or are you truly one of a kind?

Speaker 12 Well, I hope not.

Speaker 7 I hope we, in my day's time, I'm able to witness it.

Speaker 7 And that let me know that a kid that has that same dream as I did as a kid believing, regardless of what anyone was saying, that he can take his skills to the highest level, which is the NBA.

Speaker 7 And so I'm waiting for that 5-3 or whole, or 5-2 guy to come along.

Speaker 7 The game has been spread around the world now.

Speaker 7 It's over in India, it's in China. So it's in countries that we know diminutive players have been introduced to the game.

Speaker 7 So hopefully, you know, even seeing in the States, that somebody could, you know, take on that challenge and believe that they can. And because it's all comes down to your skill set.

Speaker 4 I think there was a player, was it Arkansas State this year that was 5'4, 5'3, 5'4 is pretty good?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Darren L. Rogers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, okay. UMBC.
UMBC, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, so

Speaker 4 was there ever any like small advantage that you might have? Maybe it was somebody that was

Speaker 4 like overlooking you because of your stature. Or was there anything about your game that at a certain point,

Speaker 4 yeah, it's not traditional. It's not how everybody else looks, but you were able to find an advantage out of being closer to the ground?

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 the game is the game. You know, how you impact the game is always going to be

Speaker 3 at the forefront.

Speaker 7 And regardless of your position, you got to have that skill set. And fortunate for me, I was a point guard.
You know, I was small in stature, but I understood

Speaker 7 all the, you know, the nuances that came with that leadership and with that responsibility of being a point guard. You know, how to run your team, how to make your teammates better.

Speaker 7 At the same time, how to get your shot off and

Speaker 7 having that understanding and being able to not be taken advantage of what people looked at you as a disadvantage in terms of your height, try to post you up and all that.

Speaker 7 You know, you're able to withstand that by your defensive presence, your knowledge of the game, being able to stay on the floor and being able to stay on the floor and have success against the ones that call the best.

Speaker 7 And for me, if you're the best and you have success against the best, you need to be included with the best. And that was a mindset that I always took on the court.

Speaker 7 So having that understanding, I was able to, you know, allow myself to look to be recognized as a point guard. and being able to climb the ladders at each levels.

Speaker 7 And I think a lot of small guards, you know, they try to play the game differently and um

Speaker 7 and trying to play the game as a big guard you know sometimes you can get overlooked because they feel like a guard is a dime a dozen they can find somebody else to do that same thing that you're trying to do and for me i wanted to change the game and the only way i can do that is defensively making your opponent think make your opponent have uh difficult times getting to his uh getting to the offense and understanding that's how it all starts so having that understanding never really allowed me to climb the ladder as far as i did the it it must have also been a benefit in the public sphere, where if you have a guy who's six, six, or seven feet tall, everyone can, you know, you're not anonymous.

Speaker 3 Everyone knows that, you know, when you walk in a room, and everyone expects you to be a basketball player, where you have the reverse, no one expects you to be a basketball player.

Speaker 3 You can kind of blend in, and then you're like, oh, yeah, I'm a 14-year NBA vet, no big deal.

Speaker 7 You know, by that time, they kind of, your face stands out.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But no, I mean, that's easy. You know, you kind of just blends in because no one

Speaker 7 recognized or looked at you as a basketball player, you know, because of your stature. You know, that's just not the case.
You know, the game is supposed to be meant for a taller player.

Speaker 7 So, you know, you can get away with a lot of things in that regards.

Speaker 7 But, you know, once you're on that court, you know, for me, that's where it all came down to gaining respect.

Speaker 7 wanting to play the game like and be respected as anyone else who played the game as a point guard at that position.

Speaker 3 And I think that's what allowed me to be the guy that i was able to you know we all impacted differently spud webb impacted the game differently michael adams um the little nate robinson as well so we have some guys that's out there but we just have a different way of impacting it the the uh i think you also had like the perfect uh confluence of events where Your name, which obviously it's not Muggsy, you know, your God-given name is Tyrone, but your name, Muggsy Bogues, is probably the coolest name out there.

Speaker 3 The Hornets were a newer franchise. The starter jacket was the the coolest starter jacket, without a doubt.

Speaker 3 And so, that coolness, and then you had grandmama, Larry Johnson, who was the coolest player, all like together, which kind of took it to another level.

Speaker 3 Did everyone, were you, did you have teammates that didn't know your real name? Would do they think your name was Muggsy?

Speaker 7 Well, a couple of them didn't know my real name. Yeah, a couple of them, especially the new guys.
You know, they just know your name is Muggsy Bogues throughout the entire time. So,

Speaker 7 no one really knew my name, especially my middle name name as well.

Speaker 7 But, you know, the true ones knew my name was Tyrone. You know, my really true, true close friend, they knew my name was Tyrone.
But, you know, Muggs has been, you know, resonated for so long.

Speaker 7 Many people, a lot of folks don't even know my name is Tyrone. So that's something that, you know, become, you know,

Speaker 7 a big question for people when they realize my name is Tyrone as opposed to not Muggs.

Speaker 3 Muggs is such a great name.

Speaker 4 It's a perfect name.

Speaker 3 It's like it's either you as a basketball player or you basically could just be transported into like 1920 with a Tommy gun in a pinstripe suit. Like you're a Dick Tracy villain, Muggsy Bokes.

Speaker 7 Well, you know, I took a picture with a pimpstripe suit on

Speaker 7 and my AC, well, that was the ACC. They took a photograph of me with my hat on, my pinstripe suit, with my gun, with the pimp car behind.

Speaker 3 It was amazing.

Speaker 12 It was amazing.

Speaker 7 It was one of my highlights of my college career.

Speaker 4 I was wondering if you know what your stat line was in Space Jam against the monsters no what was it i don't know either i was hoping that you would keep track of that that i feel like that's something that should be available but i i couldn't find it anywhere online no i i mean i i mean i know we we was we were smashing them quite a bit yeah i don't know until we lost our powers so you know

Speaker 7 once we you know when they took we had that power boy i tell that monster he was amazing he was he was like a vice grip

Speaker 4 What was that like when you were playing against the Monsters when you were filming it?

Speaker 4 Because that was like, I think that's the first movie to ever combine like animation and basketball in the same thing. They probably were figuring a little bit of it out as they went along.

Speaker 4 How did they tell you how to attack a defense of Monsters that weren't necessarily right in front of you? Or maybe they were there. I don't know.
Maybe it was a real thing.

Speaker 7 That's too many tricks. I can't get those secrets out like that.
I mean, that's the behind-the-scene type of thing that goes on.

Speaker 7 And, you know, Warner Brother, you know, they do an amazing job of having that type of

Speaker 7 competition and how they able to go against one another without even getting hurt so i mean that was amazing but no i mean it's all computer you know it's all computerized so you know they

Speaker 7 know how to animate the animation with the computer so they put it all together so it wasn't nothing difficult we had to go against the the looney tunes per se

Speaker 3 um what so i have to ask this question i know it's a terrible question to ask but is the story about michael jordan is that real

Speaker 3 him trash talking you uh to the point where like it got in your head and that's a that's a fair that that one is like let's set it straight right now oh i mean it's been set straight i mean nothing is set straight i mean you just think about what you just said i mean i played seven more years after that series that's true that's true that's true was he the was he the meanest trash talker though you that you played against No, I mean, for me, I mean,

Speaker 7 my position was point guard. So we didn't play against Michael was a two guard.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 7 So, you know, Gary Preton was my position. So he was more or less trash talking and, you know, love to get it going in that regard.

Speaker 7 But yeah, Michael talked a lot, but it was more or less against the guys he was playing against a lot.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Two guards.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, for him, I mean, somebody said he was supposed to call me a midget and I missed a shot or whatever and it ruined my career. I mean, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 7 I mean, after that series, I hadn't had surgery because I was hurting on that series and I had knee surgery. And then, after my knee surgery,

Speaker 7 you know, I kind of missed the entire year afterwards, and then came back the following year. And so my numbers had went down.

Speaker 7 And I guess they kind of try to combine what happened in the series and me just coming back into

Speaker 7 the lead. And, you know, I was probably 10 years already in my career about it.

Speaker 3 So, Michael Jordan made you get surgery. That's the story.

Speaker 7 No, no, no.

Speaker 7 I wasn't even supposed to play in the series.

Speaker 3 There we go.

Speaker 7 But, you know, the toughness that, you know, because I got hurt just

Speaker 7 before the season ended. We got hurt against Atlanta.
And we had another two weeks before the playoffs started. And, you know, I was projected really not to play.
But, you know,

Speaker 7 me, I had to play. I had bone on bone.
Didn't have any cartilage in my knees. But, you know, I found a way to make it work, to get through it.

Speaker 7 But after it was all said and done, I had to have surgery.

Speaker 4 You were one of the quickest players that I've ever seen play, and your crossover was insane. Go look up some Mugsy Bogue's highlights of how fast he was laterally.

Speaker 4 Did you ever actually injure anybody by crossing them up?

Speaker 7 Well, you made quite a few people fall, but, you know, I don't know if they just actually didn't get back up. You know, they fell, and it was a little embarrassing moment.

Speaker 7 But no, I don't think I hurt anybody to the guards of where they, you know, their career was over.

Speaker 4 Also, we're big fans of the picture of Aaron Judge and Jose El Tuve that they always show on TV TV whenever they, you know, those two play against each other.

Speaker 4 I think people forget about the picture of you and Manuk Bull next to each other. That poster was everywhere in my high school.

Speaker 4 It was like that El Tuve picture on steroids. Did you know how iconic that image was going to be when you were getting your picture taken?

Speaker 7 Absolutely not. You know, Newtie and I, Manuk, I mean, that was a me rest in power.

Speaker 7 He was a hilarious individual. Loved to laugh, loved to joke, tell about how he killed lions with a spear and so forth.
But, you know, my first year, we was together at Washington Bullets.

Speaker 7 And this was before, you know, teams started flying private.

Speaker 7 You know, we had to fly a commercial and go through the airport because you imagine Moses Malone on one side, Manute on the other side, and me in the middle walking through the airport.

Speaker 7 You know, cameras was out.

Speaker 7 Manute was one of the families that always had, no shoot, no shoot, telling the people don't shoot. Then they feel like they was threatened.
Like, Like, what? Then he said, no, you can shoot.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so speaking of teammates, like, who is your favorite teammate? We obviously talked about Del Curry and Manute Bowl, but who is your favorite teammate both on and off the court to play with?

Speaker 7 I have too many of them. You know, you mentioned two, Dell and Manute, and, you know, Larry Johnson, Alonzo Marney, Moses Malone, may he rest in peace.

Speaker 7 You had, I mean, gosh, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady is Charles Oakley. I mean, Johnny Newman,

Speaker 7 Rex Chapman. I mean, how long? I could just keep on going down the line.
There's too many guys that we still got great bonds and we still keep in contact with each other.

Speaker 7 Of course, the David Wingate, you know, he and I played high score

Speaker 7 as well as the NBA. I mean, Reggie Williams.
I mean, I mean, you got so many guys. So it's not just one.
I'm grateful and thankful for that.

Speaker 3 How intimidating. All right.

Speaker 7 So you listed a bunch of guys how intimidating uh was charles oakley uh until like maybe he loosened up and and you guys became friends well and he was never intimidated you know in terms of me i mean we we don't never become that way especially where we come from you know oak and i i mean he just understands people and you knew oak was an enforcer you know he was the type of guy that he just didn't you know back down from anything and when you plan against him you knew that i mean you knew he had his teammates back, regardless of any situation.

Speaker 7 I don't care if you're friends with him or not. He got his teammates back.
And until you become his teammates, and then that's then it vice versa.

Speaker 7 So that's a guy that you love and you're going to love going to war with because he's going to keep it 100.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 no matter what the situation is,

Speaker 7 if it's

Speaker 4 wrong, indifference, or whatever, he's on your side because that's just the loyalty he has with you when you part of him and um and i love that i like that uh did you ever play as muggsy bogues in nba jam and nba jam yeah i think you were like if i remember the team was larry johnson alonzo morning were the two guys that they gave you to start but you could and that was the best team that they had like by far the hornets were the best team in nba jam but then i think you were the first substitute that you could make put mugsy in and you were actually electric to play with because you were so fast oh that's the first time i ever heard of that

Speaker 7 I never knew anything about that.

Speaker 4 We got to get you an NBA Jam game. Yes.

Speaker 7 Damn, I thought I was already in the NBA Jam.

Speaker 4 Let's see, which one? I'm going to look up the Charlotte Hornets team.

Speaker 7 I was always in the NBA Jam.

Speaker 3 I want to say it was... Was it Larry Johnson and Zoe? And Zoe, and I want to say Glenn Rice might have been in the tournament edition.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you were in the TE.

Speaker 3 You were in the tournament. Which actually was the better version.

Speaker 4 Which is better because you can get on fire and you can do better dumps.

Speaker 3 Way better version. Way better version.
So, yeah, we got to make sure that that's.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, because, yeah, I mean, you guys educate me now about, you know, the games that about this NBA Jam and the team and, you know, different versions of it.

Speaker 3 All right, so I had one last question. We have to ask this because

Speaker 3 we're talking basketball. MJ or LeBron?

Speaker 7 MJ or LeBron? Oh, I guess this is a GOAT question.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I mean, we wouldn't be doing our job as journalists if we didn't say.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's easy. I mean, MJ is always going to be at the forefront.
You know, LeBron is doing amazing things. And, you know,

Speaker 7 LeBron has, I mean,

Speaker 7 will continue to do amazing things. But as a basketball, you know,

Speaker 7 eyes

Speaker 7 analyst, all that, MJ is my guy.

Speaker 3 Okay. Good answer.

Speaker 4 You're never going to go wrong saying that because like LeBron could always, like his story's not done yet. So you can always say he can get there, but he's not there yet.

Speaker 7 Well, it's not for me, he can't, it's the skill set.

Speaker 7 And it's the skill set that separates them from me.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 MJ has no deficiencies

Speaker 7 when it comes to the game of basketball on both ends of the floor.

Speaker 4 What about you versus LeBron one-on-one?

Speaker 3 Full-size court. Who wins?

Speaker 7 Oh,

Speaker 7 it's going to be a battle. It's going to be a battle.
Yeah, you know, it ain't going going to be that easy for LeBron.

Speaker 3 I think he can take him.

Speaker 7 I know I can. It's going to be a battle.

Speaker 3 How often do you still play?

Speaker 7 Not much. You know, a little shooting around here and there in the backyard.
That's basically it. No running up and down.
Yeah. That's it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Could you dunk?

Speaker 7 Once upon a time.

Speaker 3 Ooh.

Speaker 4 What was your vertical leap?

Speaker 3 44.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 3 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 A hell of an athlete.

Speaker 7 Yeah, ping pong player, wrestler.

Speaker 3 Ooh, ping-pong player. We got to to get you up to New York and play a little ping-pong up here.

Speaker 4 We got a pretty good ping pong player, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh, really? His name's Jake.
Yeah. Pretty much undefeated.

Speaker 4 He's the best in the office.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Same as I.
Same as I.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. We'll get that game going.
That would be

Speaker 3 on the Play Barstool app. That would be fun.
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 Got a nice little championship trophy when I was playing. City Champ.

Speaker 3 Oh, really?

Speaker 3 That's sick. Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 All right, sweet. Who, give me last, last question for me.
Give me your NBA finals in the winner.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go with, I know this is going to be crazy. People got Brooklyn going to be in the finals, but I got Milwaukee in the finals for me.

Speaker 7 And believe it or not, some kind of way, I think the Clippers are going to wind up in the East. I mean, in the West.

Speaker 3 Whoa. That's spicy.
Let's hope they don't go down 2-0 tonight because that would be tough. It will be tough.
It will be tough.

Speaker 7 It will be tough.

Speaker 7 I mean, Dallas, you know, considering what happened to them last year, I know they kind of remember that and i'm quite sure they got a little edge um but they still home court advantage right now but i still believe you know the clippers can you know overcome um and then at the end of said and done milwaukee's walking away with it so you believe in playoff p well it ain't about playoff p i believe in uh oh i believe in i believe in paul george I believe in Paul George.

Speaker 7 I believe in Kawhi Lennon, as well as addition to Rondo and Sergio Baker. So with Ty Lou at the helms, I think he can get those guys to that point where they can start playing consistent basketball.

Speaker 7 But so I'm holding on to that and believe that they can still get the job done.

Speaker 3 By the way, I got to correct myself. Glenn Rice was on the heat in the NBA jam, so that was wrong.
Yeah, but I remember playing with him because I'd go in the corner and shoot three.

Speaker 4 Muggsy was the third guy, and then Kendall Gill was also in an alternate version of the game. Ah, but so it was you, Grandma Ma, and Zoe.
Those were the big three on the Hornets.

Speaker 4 And as a as a fellow short person myself, that's what I thought because I know I was on the mural.

Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're definitely in the game for sure. I just want to say thank you as a short king.
Like you are, you are actually the short king, I would say.

Speaker 3 And so you're an inspiration to those of us.

Speaker 7 I think I do have that. Okay.

Speaker 7 I can accept that title.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Where do you draw the line? What do you consider to be a short human being?

Speaker 3 I don't draw a line.

Speaker 7 You know,

Speaker 7 your height. Your height is what it is.
I mean, I don't care how tall you can be three feet tall. You're still short.
And, you know, you're just your height. You're just shorter than me.
That's it.

Speaker 7 Or, you know, you're 5'4. You're just a little one inch taller than me.
You know, you're still, but you're still short.

Speaker 4 That's the correct answer. Yes.
I like it. Yes.

Speaker 3 I love it. Well, Muggsy, thank you so much.
We appreciate it. And anytime you're in New York City,

Speaker 3 we want you to play some ping pong. That would be awesome.

Speaker 7 It's on. I got you, guys.
Appreciate you having me on, too.

Speaker 3 All right. Love it.
Thank you, Muggsy.

Speaker 7 Nice, guys.

Speaker 3 Take care.

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Speaker 3 Now, here he is:

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Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Mick Foley.
He is a wrestling Hall of Famer, hardcore legend. He has a documentary out on Sunday night.
Get excited for it.

Speaker 3 It will be the entire career of Mick Foley, the illustrious career of Mick Foley. Thank you for joining us.
We're excited to have you on.

Speaker 3 I want to start with an easy question. How are you feeling physically right now? Because I saw a story that you did 10 push-ups the other day and you felt like you got hit by a truck.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that was, I guess you called me a COVID long hauler.

Speaker 12 Even though I was putting on quite a bit of weight, I was keeping up, I guess, do 40, 44 or I was trying to hone in on 50.

Speaker 12 COVID hit and then I thought, okay, try a couple weeks after I got over COVID. And I was like, six, six push-ups where every one of them hurt.

Speaker 12 Like it wasn't even a matter of getting fatigued like you usually do as you continue getting more and more fatigued everything just hurt my joints hurt so uh that's going to be a continued struggle for me to try to get back to where i was before i got covet yeah yeah yeah so what were you doing before you got covered like were you still did you feel like you were in good health or did you feel you know the effects of having a decades-long wrestling career well i always feel those effects um i mean i'm always a little a little worse for the wear but i had my hip replaced and my right hip and my right knee.

Speaker 12 And wow, that made a world of difference 2017.

Speaker 12 So even with everything else

Speaker 12 happening, I still feel better than I did 10 years ago or even 15, 20 years ago.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's great. So the documentary on Sunday night, I'm sure you will get into this, but

Speaker 3 your career and the way you wrestled.

Speaker 3 Were there times when you would sit down and it's like, all right, here's what we're going to do this match. And you're like, hey, you know what?

Speaker 3 I don't feel like getting my ass kicked for like an hour tonight and like going through maximum pain because all your best matches, which you might have the most legendary match of all time with Undertaker, are essentially how much pain can Mick Foley go through for the fans' amusement?

Speaker 12 Yeah, some of them

Speaker 12 were that way, but we found that there were other ways to get great reactions. You know,

Speaker 12 there are some moves that simply cannot be feigned, you know, that what you see is what you get and they were taking their toll. Whereas like the salad tongs applied to the genitalia,

Speaker 12 they get a lot of bang for that buck, you know.

Speaker 12 In one case, it was a nation of domination, and none of the guys wanted to take the salad tongs because they were going out to a place called the stay out.

Speaker 12 I was like, guys, it's the easiest reaction in the world. And I think I talked D'Lo Brown into doing it.
All you have to do is run in place, you know, and the

Speaker 12 crowd came unglued, and the next night they all wanted to take it. So, there's ways we're lucky that we have different ways of reaching the finish line.
So,

Speaker 12 as much as I took pride in those, you know, all-out, wild brawls,

Speaker 12 there were ways of getting great reactions that didn't,

Speaker 12 you know, have as much physical fallout. I remember, for example,

Speaker 12 Triple H has you know, it's a fairly well-known, a large nose, right?

Speaker 12 A nose.

Speaker 12 And one night at what we call the tent town, these are small venues along the East Coast in Massachusetts and Connecticut,

Speaker 12 I threw Triple H with a pair of salad tongs off the top rope by his nose.

Speaker 12 So clearly, you know,

Speaker 12 you're begging credulity, if that's that's the right way to say it, you know, like that's not something that you're going to see in a UFC contest, for example.

Speaker 12 But in our world, it made perfect sense and it got a great reaction.

Speaker 12 So Jim Ross came up to me, I think that was 97, and he's, you know, I don't do a great Jim Ross. He's like, you know, Mick, I'm sorry we're putting you through all these anything, those matches.

Speaker 12 We're going to make sure that we stop doing that so your body can recuperate a little bit. I said, do you want me to recuperate?

Speaker 12 He said, well, of course we do i said book me in as many of these matches with triple h as you possibly can because we were getting incredible reactions while not putting ourselves on the line and of course later we would you know i had a couple legendary matches with triple h where there were no salad tongs

Speaker 12 like there were no throws off the top rope by the nose or anything of that nature but yeah you could you could get great reactions without doing those things to yourself yeah that's what i always loved about you is like there was always a mix

Speaker 4 occasionally of like lightheartedness in it, almost like a slapstick element to it. But then on the other hand, you could go out there and you could take the best bumps of anybody in the WWE,

Speaker 4 perhaps ever, like probably a top three guy when it comes to that at least.

Speaker 4 Was there a point, because you are kind of like an unconventional wrestler.

Speaker 4 Was there a point that you realized that Vince saw something in you and that he respected you enough where you might be able to get that, you know, to that point in your career where you could hold the crown yeah well

Speaker 12 there was one uh very uh

Speaker 12 fortuitous uh statement made to me by gerald briscoe when he came in on my first day i i'd had a what was known as a dark match non-televised match against a montoya a couple weeks earlier but i was getting ready to do my first raw match followed by uh a run-in where i was going to attack the undertaker so this is kind of a make or break moment and uh Gerald asked me if there was something I could do to the Undertaker.

Speaker 12 And I said, I could drop an elbow off the TV truck. And he said,

Speaker 12 we know you do a lot of these things. You know, there may come a time when we ask you to do one of those things.
But until that time, please don't do those things. And that saved me.

Speaker 12 You know, I mean, I was able to use the big moves.

Speaker 12 you know, in moderation. And that

Speaker 12 helped me a lot over the years that I was with WWE.

Speaker 3 So, you bring up Undertaker, obviously, one of the most legendary matches of all time,

Speaker 3 the King of the Ring, 1998, one of the first Hell in the Cells. What's your biggest memory from that?

Speaker 3 I know that you went through a ton of different injuries, but was there a moment after where you're like, holy shit, did we nail that?

Speaker 3 Was that, did you know in the moment that this is going to be a match that people truly do talk about to this day?

Speaker 12 It wasn't until the next day.

Speaker 12 Undertaker really made it a point to take care of me that next day. And we watched our match.
I don't know if it was in catering at that time. It probably was in catering even back then.

Speaker 12 And when the match was over, the entire room stood up and gave us a standing ovation. And I've seen standing ovations when people come back through the curtain.

Speaker 12 I've never seen a standing ovation in catering. So that was when it dawned on me that we had done something special.

Speaker 3 So afterwards, they all are just standing up and this is the next day, and they're like, holy shit, that was like at the end of a movie when people clap and everyone's moved. Wow.

Speaker 12 Or maybe it was one of Plain Lands and everyone's glad they're alive.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 Yes. I mean, you should have, you probably had that feeling of, I'm glad I'm alive after going, you know, through the, you know, sell, thumbtacks, everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 That was rough, but I guess it, you know, it says something. I was at the show the next day and even had a short match.
And then Mr. McMahon sent me home for four days to recuperate.

Speaker 3 Oh, four days? Wow. What a, that's beautiful.
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 12 But it's new.

Speaker 3 It is new.

Speaker 4 Did you get a standing ovation when you saved WWE, when you took the title from The Rock? And I mean, maybe you can tell the story a little bit better than I can, but what essentially happened was

Speaker 4 there was,

Speaker 4 I think it was Nitro, right? WCW had Nitro on at the same time as Monday Night Raw, and the announcer would try to dick over WWE by spoiling the result.

Speaker 4 He announced that you were going to take the crown from The Rock, and then everybody, I think 600,000 people switched over to watch you.

Speaker 4 So it totally screwed them over, and they never recovered from that. And then WWE was king from that point on.
Did you at least get like a thank you note from Vince?

Speaker 12 I don't know.

Speaker 12 He clearly was appreciative of what I did. I don't remember there being a thank you note.
The best way to thank somebody is in their check, you know? So I think he took pretty good care of me. And

Speaker 12 that was a big night.

Speaker 12 You know, WCW was live in front of 48,000 people at the Georgia Dome. We had a taped show at the Worcester Center, which is a

Speaker 12 7,08,000 seat arena. So they should have had a huge victory.

Speaker 12 And instead, it turned out to be a huge victory for us, not just that night, but it was considered to be one of the biggest biggest nights in the history of the Monday Night Wars.

Speaker 3 Did you ever, have you ever sneezed around Vince McMahon? We always ask any of our wrestling guests that question.

Speaker 12 No, but I know that

Speaker 12 I went into his food tray. And

Speaker 12 I used to have the pull where Vince orders the best of everything, you know, and so when he would go back, when he would go out and leave his office to go to the curtain, behind the curtain to

Speaker 12 produce the shows uh it was a given that i could go in there and just forage for whatever i wanted the finest cut of uh a beef you know the finest chicken filet

Speaker 12 and so i thought i still had that pole when i was rummaging through his uh his food tray and uh the look on his face he accused me of finger effing his food

Speaker 3 I was going to say, he's an all-time germaphobe. He could not have been happy to watch you finger fucking his his food.

Speaker 12 Oh, no. Thanks for filling in the blank there.

Speaker 12 No, he wasn't. He wasn't.
Yeah. But he's a hugger.
Good hugger.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Firm hugger.
Oh, that's good. That's nice.
Firm hugger, like trying to suck the life out of you, hugger.

Speaker 12 No, just enough. Just enough.

Speaker 3 Just enough to let you know. Yeah.
If he wanted to kill you with his bare hands, he could.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 12 The warmest hug I've ever had was from adult film legend Christy Canyon.

Speaker 3 Ooh.

Speaker 3 Was that?

Speaker 12 Just Wouldn't let me go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 4 Was she trying to wrestle you?

Speaker 12 No, it's just her way of displaying affection, I believe.

Speaker 4 Okay. I'll have to put that on my bucket list for hugs.

Speaker 4 This might be a dumb question, but do you consider yourself to be the greatest wrestler of all time who ever wore a shirt?

Speaker 3 To ever wear a shirt?

Speaker 12 To ever use the cover-up?

Speaker 12 Wow. I'd never been asked that.
I would have to think of, you'd have to compile a list of wrestlers who wore shirts and see where I am on that list.

Speaker 12 I believe, yeah, I thought you were going to say the greatest wrestler ever. I was like, brother, I'm not even in the top 50, but

Speaker 12 don't let that stop you from watching the biography, though. But I'd say I'd be high, high on that list of shirted wrestlers.

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 4 I think you definitely are. And can you walk us through the process of how you decided to be a shirt guy?

Speaker 3 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I just reached a certain body weight where I thought I would be better served by showing less skin.

Speaker 12 My wife

Speaker 12 made something for me, put a couple of accompaniments on it, and I found that when I

Speaker 12 wore, when I covered up, I was no longer as self-aware and I could pour myself more into the matches. So a definite turnaround.
You know, I was about 220 when I broke in, sleeping in my car.

Speaker 12 235 I landed my first job and I saw a direct correlation between the escalation of the weight and the escalation of my standard of living.

Speaker 12 I may have taken it too far, you know, at a certain point, but I certainly did better at 270 and even 280 than I could have if I had been lighter.

Speaker 12 But I probably should have dropped some weight as I got older.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, you were a hero to every kid who, you know, wore a shirt at the pool and all that stuff and in the summertime.

Speaker 3 So, you know, I appreciate that because it is true. Like, every wrestler you see is basically built the same.
And you're one of, there's a small list of guys who are a little like off.

Speaker 3 You know, Daniel Bryan, I think that's why he, everyone loved his storyline. And you're in that camp of not the average wrestler, but an incredible talent.

Speaker 12 Thanks. Yeah, I think I opened the door for unlikely builds to get a better look at WWE.
You know, a guy like Kevin Owens may not have gotten that look had it not been for the success that I had.

Speaker 12 Another great shirted wrestler. He's up there in the conversation.
I think I need to come back and we'll just have to go through the list of shirted wrestlers.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes. We should do a Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3 Yes, we absolutely should.

Speaker 3 How many Mr. Sakos did you go through in your entire career?

Speaker 12 A Mount Rushmore of shirted wrestlers.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 I'm going to ask that.

Speaker 12 When does this air?

Speaker 3 This is going to air probably tomorrow.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 12 So maybe I'll make that a lead in

Speaker 12 social media.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 absolutely. You'll come back because we do Mount Rushmores in July and August.
So you'll come back on in July or August, and we will do an official Mount Rushmore shirted wrestlers.

Speaker 12 Sounds good. What was that last question?

Speaker 3 Oh, I was going to say, how many Mr. Sakos did you go through?

Speaker 3 I want the answer to be like only one and that you still have it and you take it out every now and then, you put it on your hand, and like even in the comfort of your own home, you become mankind.

Speaker 3 But I know that's probably not the answer.

Speaker 12 Unfortunately, not.

Speaker 12 We sold the original one for charity.

Speaker 12 We sold the one I was wearing when it's Feed the Rock for charity.

Speaker 12 And they brought in like $2,000 each. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 12 But I did, I threw, at most of the house shows, I would throw the sock to the crowd. So there have been hundreds of Mr.
Sakos over the years.

Speaker 3 Still, I mean,

Speaker 3 there's something about the pop, I'm sure you can speak to it, of when you would, you know, bring out Mr. Sako.
And it's just, it's such an organic, hilarious moment and awesome.

Speaker 12 Going back to the salad tongs, getting a great reaction, here I was, a guy known for doing all this

Speaker 12 highly impactful stuff out of the concrete. All of a sudden, I'm like pointing to my waistband.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 12 It was like, it was, you would get the reactions in stages. It was the point, the reveal, the pull, the application, and then finally the move itself.

Speaker 12 By the way, now seems like it's good a time to mention that we do have our annual worldwide Super Soccer sale through Pro Wrestling Tees running June 1st through 7th.

Speaker 12 And people can find out more about that at my website, realmickfoley.com.

Speaker 3 I love it. And you didn't come up with Mr.
Soccer, right? Wasn't it, Al Snow?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I was headed out the door. My goal that day was to infuriate Mr.
McMahon and get thrown out of his hotel, his hospital room, paving the way for Stone Cold Steve Austin to come in.

Speaker 12 And I knew that I had a birthday party clown named Yerpal who'd be meeting me there. And I had like a box of chocolates that was going to be largely eaten by the time I gave them to Mr.
McMahon.

Speaker 12 I had like a surgical glove that was blown up to look like a turkey. And I just felt like I needed one more annoying gift.
And it was Al Snow who said, how about a sock puppet?

Speaker 12 And I looked at him, I I said, a sock puppet? He said, yeah, everybody hates a sock puppet. So the last thing I did before I left for the hospital in Lansing, Michigan was I drew a face on a sock and

Speaker 12 ended up using it in the spur of the moment. This is where if it was scripted at the time,

Speaker 12 they probably would have shot down the idea of a sock puppet. But because no one even knew I had it, I brought it out.
Vince reacted to it so well.

Speaker 12 He gave the glance at, you know, the camera zoomed in after he threw me out and he said, Mr.

Speaker 3 Sako.

Speaker 12 And to me, that sealed the deal.

Speaker 4 So whose idea was it to turn Mr. Sako into a weapon?

Speaker 12 Oh, that was my idea.

Speaker 12 I thought, hey, as long as I had this mandible claw that I had been effectively used and put down some of the biggest names in the business for a couple of years, why not apply it to the hand and use that as that becomes the new

Speaker 3 mandible claw?

Speaker 12 Can you walk us through what was happening like inside the sock was it the same grip that you would use as a mandible claw or when you put it in somebody's mouth because we don't get to see that the camera doesn't show what happens under the sock what are your hands doing oh the mandible claw was a nerve hold developed by dr sam shepard who was the man the tv show and later the movie the fugitive was based on a physician who was uh thought to have killed his wife was later judged not guilty but not completely exonerated he became a wrestler and he was slight of build so he had to use his knowledge of the human anatomy.

Speaker 12 So the mandible claw is a nerve hold where these two fingers go underneath the tongue, press down on the nerves under the tongue, while the thumb presses up on the nerve right underneath the point of the chin.

Speaker 12 So I'm not advising people to apply the hold to themselves, but if they want to just test it out, you will see that it is an effective hold.

Speaker 3 Ah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, that does hurt.

Speaker 3 You have these mandible clawing.

Speaker 4 I just mandible clogged myself. But would you always do that? Would you apply pressure every time?

Speaker 12 That's better left up to the imagination.

Speaker 3 Oh, I like that. I like that.
All right, so I have one last question. Everyone, check out the documentary on Sunday night for Mick Foley.
It is the Roback Question.

Speaker 3 Use code PFT on roback.com for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com code PFT.
They make the best performance polos, the only performance polos we wear.

Speaker 3 And for you, Mick, when you come back on, I'm going to get you your Q-zip. We're going to got a Q-zip for you.
Come to New York.

Speaker 3 We'll do the Mount Rushmore of Shirted Wrestlers, and we've got a Q-zip for you. My last question was, I've been watching the Dark Side of the Ring series, which has been fantastic.

Speaker 3 You narrated the Bruiser

Speaker 3 Brody episode. If there were to be a Dark Side of the Ring on your career, now you don't have, you know,

Speaker 3 some of these stories are,

Speaker 3 you know, tragic, but what would be the

Speaker 3 focus of your career if they had a Dark Side of the Ring? Something behind the scenes that maybe usual fans, casual fans, don't know?

Speaker 12 Well, you know, they did approach me about doing an idea,

Speaker 12 doing a show, and I was thinking about it. It wasn't going to be particularly dark, but it was going to be about the decision, you know, to wrestle the way I did.
knowing there would be

Speaker 12 repercussions, especially as time went on, and the whole thought process that went into making those wild matches as good as as they could be. So not every show is dark.

Speaker 12 You know, some of them, like this past one they had about the show in North Korea. I haven't seen it yet.
I do try to catch most of them, but that one wasn't particularly dark.

Speaker 12 You know, you could say the wild side, the surreal side of the ring, but that would have been it. So it would not have been dark, but it would have been pretty fascinating.

Speaker 12 And then A ⁇ E Biography approached me about the same time.

Speaker 12 And,

Speaker 12 you know,

Speaker 12 they they convinced me that they had a way of telling the story that hadn't been told before, and so I jumped at that opportunity.

Speaker 3 I love it, I love it. I'm very excited to watch it.

Speaker 4 I've got one last question, it's a very easy one. Uh, I was told by Little Birdie that you own a lot of Christmas stuff, you're a big Christmas guy, you celebrate it year-round.

Speaker 4 Uh, Santa Claus Truther, yeah, how many Santa Claus figurines do you own currently?

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 12 I don't think I overdo it, probably eight to ten.

Speaker 12 So, I have a guy in Germany who wanted to do a custom-made Mick Foley action figure. And I was like, I've got a lot of action figures.
What if you made it Mick Foley as Santa?

Speaker 12 He's molding it from a Kamala figure. It's incredible to see this transition.
I'll probably put it out there on social media when I get the finished product, but he's showing it to me in stages.

Speaker 12 And this guy, he is like the Michelangelo of custom wrestling figures. So he's got everything of me.
You know, some people know I portray the man in red every December.

Speaker 12 So he's got everything down from the authenticity of the boots to the coat I wear, the hat. It's going to look like, duh, it's going to be incredible.

Speaker 12 So that will proudly, that'll be the only action figure I've got on display in my house, but I will display that one proudly, bringing a number up to 9 to 11 Santa figurines in the house. I love it.

Speaker 4 Christmas isn't just a time of year. Christmas is, it's a spirit.

Speaker 3 It's a mentality. Yes.
Yes. Right.
Well, thank you so much. We appreciate it, Mick.
Also,

Speaker 3 just one last thing.

Speaker 3 You went to high school with Kevin James, so we do, when you come back on for Mount Rushmore, we're going to have to pitch you a movie idea, but we'll save that for when you come back on for Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 12 Got it. And Kevin does make an appearance in my biography.

Speaker 3 So you can see that. Great.
And we have a movie idea that you can be part of. So we'll just think about that.

Speaker 3 Think about like, hey, those weird guys that talked to me for 25 minutes, I don't know their names or anything about them, but they did have a movie idea, and just keep that in your brain.

Speaker 12 I will. Thanks a lot, guys.
All right.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 All right. We're going to wrap up.
We've got Guys on Chicks. Send you on your way.

Speaker 3 Also, a reminder, next week is Memorial Day. So we will have a show on Tuesday and Friday.
So we will be back in studio on Monday night. No show Monday.
And we'll be Tuesday and Friday next week.

Speaker 3 We'll have a lot to discuss. There'll be a lot of NBA playoffs and hockey playoffs to get to.
So,

Speaker 3 yeah, that's a little reminder. I'll remind everyone again on Friday.
Also, watch our shows on YouTube and upvote every single video, please. It helps a lot.

Speaker 3 And watch BitCat play Cornell at 2 o'clock today. Play Barstool app.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 All right. Can I do the shirt now?

Speaker 3 Sure.

Speaker 3 I mean, when we plug Play Barstool, we got to plug everything.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's good. Yeah,

Speaker 4 you got to get the merch out there. You got to get the merch out there.

Speaker 3 it's smart all right what does that say that says best in the office best in the office your laptop's in a good place

Speaker 3 yeah there you go

Speaker 4 check that out jakelines that's a handsome guy what the hell his face that's just determination right there that's the look of uh just domination it's the look of i might get it tattooed

Speaker 3 on your chest yeah it's somewhere get that exact shirt tattooed on my body somewhere two o'clock today big cat's gonna lose to frank the tank um

Speaker 3 i think so i don't know the fleming curse it's tough to beat and if you think differently, you can make your picks on Playbar Slap. All right, hey, big cat.

Speaker 3 Just wondering if your dick and balls actually become bigger once you become a dad.

Speaker 3 My husband's haven't grown since I first met him when we were both 16, and I'm thinking it'll grow, and he'll be able to please me if he knocks me up. Thanks, handsome.
I would say it's the opposite.

Speaker 3 My dick is getting smaller.

Speaker 3 I mean, it is.

Speaker 4 It's like a gun that's been shot a lot. Well, yeah, it's.
It gets rusty in the old age.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's almost like everything knows, like, hey, we're almost done.

Speaker 3 like we're

Speaker 4 there's nothing left here to prove like a great horse that's got that's gotten you the distance yeah so we're gonna

Speaker 3 we're starting to get her legs out from under yeah we're just gonna go shrink off in a field somewhere hey guys quick question when guys want to watch sports all weekend instead of actually playing sports are they alphas or betas oh big alphas i think it's more alpha to watch other people play sports it's you know what it's actually the most alpha thing you can do is to criticize other people for how they're playing sports that you couldn't play yes yes And also, playing sports is hard.

Speaker 3 Watching sports for an entire weekend, that's almost the hardest thing in the world to do. Like, that's, I, I, all right, no, no, like, I'm not being hyperbolic here.
No cap. No cap.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 No cap.

Speaker 3 I would actually put it up.

Speaker 3 I know that there's a little bit of a difference, but I would put up a guy sitting on a couch and watching an entire slate of college football on Saturday and an entire slate of NFL football on Sunday, I'd put that up there with the Iron Man.

Speaker 3 I really would.

Speaker 3 Obviously, not physically as taxing, but mentally, far more taxing.

Speaker 4 I would say physically more taxing in the long run because if you do that over the course of an entire career watching sports, those weekends add up the pounds.

Speaker 3 Not to mention the social media. The sedentary electricity.
It's a triathleton where it's like to watch and also tweet.

Speaker 3 And bet, and it's also the, like, it's one of those things where give me any triathlete in the world.

Speaker 3 I probably can't do what they're doing, but I bet you I'd have a better chance of doing what they're doing than they could do what I'm doing. Well, also, they're fucking real.

Speaker 3 I can just walk a marathon.

Speaker 4 If you do that every single weekend, you're probably going to die before the person that runs a triathlon every single weekend. So you tell me which is harder on the ball.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and if someone, if you're in shape and you're a triathlete, you're one of those fucking tryhards that wakes up at like five in the morning to run, no chance you can sit through

Speaker 3 Louisville play Duke like noon on a Saturday. Or late night snack in the whack.
Yeah, right. Like Like you, you would be tapped out.
And then you got to wake up and there's a London game.

Speaker 3 Oh, the Dolphins are playing the Jags. Guess what? No rest for the weary.

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 3 And then you think that I truly believe that you can't.

Speaker 4 You think you can make kickoff on Sunday countdown right when Randy Moss and the boys are sitting down starting to chop it up?

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 3 You can do a screen grab. Lights out before the sun.

Speaker 3 As soon as Al's sliding in, you'd be fucking

Speaker 3 head on the pillow, lights out.

Speaker 4 Listen, it's tough to get up there at the crack of 10 a.m. And get the screen grab of that first sign on college game day.
Oh, right over Kirk's shoulder. By the way, first one out there.

Speaker 3 By the way, if we're really counting this, it's not just one week, it's the whole season.

Speaker 3 It's 18 weeks now, which reminder Jake put that in there that we have to do some stress test training to make sure that we're up to an 18-week schedule. We don't want to get injured in week 17.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Pre-season? Yeah, we got a

Speaker 3 pre-season. We sit down and watch.

Speaker 3 Stress tests. Well, because it's just like, there is,

Speaker 3 it's more season for everyone. You know, there are people, that was the big bugaboo in the CBA, like, guys are going to get injured.
That counts fans, too.

Speaker 4 And also, we've got games on Thursday nights now, which are just a health and safety nightmare for us, especially. And they might not even be on TV.
Sometimes we have Saturday night football

Speaker 4 in the NFL, but it's labeled Thursday night football on Saturday. Your brains have to be fungible and adapt.

Speaker 3 Maxion? Be water. Maxion?

Speaker 3 Hey, Dad Cat Hank and that other guy. I'm lucky enough to to have met the love of my life and we recently got engaged.
Congrats.

Speaker 3 I've started looking for wedding venues and the place I love the most has only one Saturday open for the entire rest of the year. No.
It's on November 6th. Nope.

Speaker 3 This wouldn't be a problem except my fiancé refuses to get married on a day that the Razorbacks are playing.

Speaker 3 He said, I refuse to go to weddings if the Hogs or Chiefs are playing, and I won't make other people do it for our wedding.

Speaker 3 Do you think my fiancé is being ridiculous to make us wait four extra months to get married? I need help.

Speaker 4 Sounds like you get a real gym. I would say, yeah, don't do.

Speaker 4 If your husband is a die-hard

Speaker 4 Razorbacks fan, my guess is there are people in his family that are also extremely die-hard Razorbacks fans, and they're going to figure out a way to be watching the Hogs play during your wedding, one way or another.

Speaker 4 So I would say, yes, absolutely delay it at least until, well, I was going to say until the college football playoffs are over, but it's Arkansas. So until early January, delay it.

Speaker 3 Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's his name?

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 Sam, fuck, what's Sam Pitts, right? He's the college football coach for Arkansas. He's fucking awesome.
He's got them going in the right direction. I agree with you, PFT.

Speaker 3 If he's diehard, someone, a lot of his families diehard.

Speaker 4 It's not a casual fan base.

Speaker 3 You basically will. Pittman, you will basically,

Speaker 3 your entire wedding experience will be hijacked by that game. People will be wanting to watch that instead of watching you and the love of your life and and all that jazz happen.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, don't do it. Well, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 Let's check up real quick. Who are they playing? You said November 6th?

Speaker 3 November 6th. Let's check.
I'm also going to look real quick. You can't do it.

Speaker 3 And everyone's going to be miserable. Mississippi State.
I mean, you should beat the shit out of that. Yeah, they suck.
But everyone would be miserable.

Speaker 4 Guess that line? Ooh. Ooh, what's the line, you mean? Yeah, sorry.
I think it's going to be

Speaker 4 Arkansas by one and a half.

Speaker 3 Ooh.

Speaker 4 It's at home.

Speaker 3 Arkansas's at home?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's in

Speaker 3 three and a half.

Speaker 3 Here's what else you're missing. Fayetteville.
LSU, Alabama. Yeah, Fayetteville.
LSU, Alabama is that weekend.

Speaker 3 Florida, South Carolina. It sucks.
Texas, AM, Auburn. These are some of the games that you're making your entire guest list skip.
Illinois, Minnesota. That's probably the Beth Moens game of the week.

Speaker 3 No one can watch it.

Speaker 3 Ohio State, Nebraska.

Speaker 4 That's a big game. Yeah, huge.
Historically.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Oklahoma State, West Virginia. I'm so excited.
I was thinking about this the other day, just how much I'm excited for fans back in the stadiums. College for Oregon, Washington.

Speaker 3 Shout out Spencer Hawes.

Speaker 3 Need I rest my case? Or do you want me to keep going? USC, Arizona State? Oh, you're good.

Speaker 3 Sup, fellas.

Speaker 3 Army Air Force, take the under.

Speaker 3 As it warms up and summer is back, how can I prevent chafing down there?

Speaker 3 Hmm.

Speaker 4 Coconut oil or red cider, apple vinegar.

Speaker 3 I've always had success with Gold Bond, the powder.

Speaker 3 If it's a really hot day, just give yourself a little. You can even do the LeBron where you fucking slap it and then put a little on your balls.

Speaker 3 Put a little in the in your underwear, in that little thing that hangs, and just fucking keep it dry.

Speaker 4 This is guys on chicks, so I

Speaker 4 think it might be a female.

Speaker 3 Oh, fuck. All right, well, so let me just say.
First get balls.

Speaker 4 There's nothing, according to most of the mommy blogs that I've read, that coconut oil won't fix.

Speaker 3 Can't you just

Speaker 3 put a tampon up there?

Speaker 4 Are we talking about lip chafage?

Speaker 3 Is that a thing? No, I think, but if you put a tampon up there, it will just capture all the moisture, right? It's like in the area? Yeah, it's like putting out like a honey for a bee.

Speaker 4 Just dump a bunch of cotton balls down your jeans.

Speaker 3 I think we got that one. All right.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, here's what you do: just eat a bunch of different packs of beef jerky, take out all those silica gel packets, and then put those in your vagina.

Speaker 3 Yep, captures all the moisture. What's up, Big Cat PFT Cake and Bubs? First time learning.
Oh, no, hang on. Oh, no.
Question for Mr.

Speaker 3 Commenter: Do you receive a residual check for your epic potential Grammy winning performance in the NHL commercial of you playing the air guitar? I keep seeing it every day.

Speaker 3 I wonder how that works since you guys make a me or 75K an episode. I surely hope you're 80.

Speaker 4 We're at 89. No one got bumped up.
Because of leap year, there was an extra day, so $5,000.

Speaker 3 No other, no worse way to to reveal yourself as a casual by tweeting like now is that pft commenter in the yeah

Speaker 4 i've seen a few of those i've been like oh very late to do that it's not it's actually not me there we go it's just somebody dumping it's some guy that i whoever he is he's hot as shit and he's tall and

Speaker 4 great looking who loves great teams they should probably take take you out of that commercial now the caps are out i don't know what the what my contract says about that you know it'd be funny if if somebody photoshopped uh instead of me holding the air guitar, golf clubs.

Speaker 3 Just a big classic golf club club club club club. Obi.

Speaker 3 Just a giant L.

Speaker 4 Oh, holding an L? Damn.

Speaker 3 Playing an L.

Speaker 4 Hit me that hard.

Speaker 4 Let's see.

Speaker 4 Oh, by the way, I think Obi's going to resign. Nice.

Speaker 3 I bet you guys were worried about that. I was worried.

Speaker 3 All right, we'll do two more.

Speaker 3 What's up, PMT, especially girl dad, cat? Are you going to have Dr. Phil back on? I really think he could help heal the rift between Jake and Hank.
That is actually a good call. Huh?

Speaker 4 That's great great because we were talking about.

Speaker 3 I'm going to make the text right now.

Speaker 4 We were talking about getting a marriage psychiatrist or a marriage therapist on. I think that Dr.
Phil is even better than that. Like, Dr.
Phil will straighten out any mess.

Speaker 4 We got him to apologize for MKUltra on behalf of the psychiatric community. Dr.
Phil is great at burying hatchets, so yes, I would love to have him back on.

Speaker 3 Mm-hmm. I'm doing it right now.
Texting Peggy and Kelly. Can we get speaking of Peggy? Hey, Daddy Cat, PFG, Alpha, Hank.
Oh, I like PFG. Alpha, Jake, and Beta Beta Hank.

Speaker 3 I recently went on vacation with my boyfriend in Nashville. Being we both live with our families, it's rare we get the freedom to explore the bedroom.
Oh!

Speaker 3 On the trip every day. Damn, hotel set.

Speaker 3 He would drop hints about wanting me to peg him. Whoa.

Speaker 4 That's really exploring the entire room.

Speaker 3 If he wants to be pegged or do you think it's a really funny thing to joke about, please let me know, guys.

Speaker 3 If this is your first time, like... I can confidently say I have never joked about wanting to be pegged

Speaker 3 to my significant other, so I think that's a sign he would like to be pegged. Especially if it's like, all right, we finally have some alone time in a bedroom to ourselves.
Right, let's do it.

Speaker 3 Let's get the, why won't you, can you please fuck me?

Speaker 4 Like, it's totally normal to be like, Miley Cyrus, choke me with your garter belt and then throw me off the Empire State Building. But

Speaker 4 it's weird to be like, hey, put your finger into my rectum.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think he...

Speaker 3 No king shaming. No.
But you got to peg him.

Speaker 3 And hard. And he might

Speaker 3 be hard. hard.
You might like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It sounds like.

Speaker 3 It doesn't matter if you like it. You know what? He's going to like it.

Speaker 4 He's going to love it. Since you're writing in to part of my take asking that question, I think that means that she might be maybe feeling a little bit.
Like, this could be fun.

Speaker 3 No, yeah, do it. Give us a follow-up on this.

Speaker 4 I want to hear how the hotel room went.

Speaker 3 Hit us on the side, and we will get you, we will pay for one-night hotel room wherever you want.

Speaker 4 And a towel

Speaker 3 up to a certain limit, and we will. $50.
But you have to peg and you have to tell us that you peg

Speaker 3 $50. A La Quinta Inn outside of Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 3 Pegging. All right, numbers.
49.

Speaker 4 Is that it, Hank?

Speaker 3 That's 18.99.

Speaker 4 What did you say, Bubba? 886.

Speaker 3 886.

Speaker 4 Also, comment in the YouTube comments what you think the numbers are going to be.

Speaker 3 Three. Three.
All right. Big three.
I feel like we've gotten a lot of single digits recently, have Zed.

Speaker 8 We had one and two, I I think, last week.

Speaker 3 Whoa. Wow.
Wild. Whoa.

Speaker 3 That is wild.

Speaker 8 Do we want any facts?

Speaker 3 Animal facts.

Speaker 8 Animal facts.

Speaker 8 In 2009, a fox cub was caught in a trap in England for two weeks, but survived because its mother brought it food every day.

Speaker 3 Nice story. That's a very nice story.
That's poop, poop a holler.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 muddy day, the body shot.

Speaker 4 I'm coming for your love update.

Speaker 4 Be like the same.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying

Speaker 4 about these relatively.

Speaker 4 Seven

Speaker 4 moments okay. Say after me.

Speaker 4 Like some days you can say from something.