Alabama HC Nate Oats, NBA Trade Deadline And Sweet 16

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Alabama head coach Nate Oates.

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Today is Friday, March,

Speaker 1 what is it? March 26th.

Speaker 1 And the NBA trade line has happened. Ready for this? PFT? Ready for this Big J

Speaker 1 sentence that I'm going to use? Ready? This league. No, no, no, not this league.
Not this league. This league.
Or as Adam Schepter said,

Speaker 1 he said, NBA trade deadline is fire emoji. And that was the end of emojis forever.
But I was going to say, an unbelievable trade deadline, but the biggest trade that happened didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Kyle Lowry's still a Raptor.

Speaker 1 That's whenever there's not the big blockbuster. They're like, you know what, the biggest trade was? The Raptors kept Kyle Lowry.

Speaker 5 That's right. Yeah.
And did you see that Drake got on FaceTime with Kyle Lowry last night?

Speaker 1 There you go. After the game.

Speaker 5 I've been listening to some Drake recently. I'm starting to come around on this guy.
I think he might be the future rap. So keep your eye on this young little buck.

Speaker 1 You realize that that take was just terrible?

Speaker 6 What? That Drake sucks?

Speaker 5 It might have been one of my worst takes.

Speaker 5 Not my stronger one.

Speaker 1 I still

Speaker 1 don't know.

Speaker 5 I'm reserving the right to still think that Drake is corny. That's fine.

Speaker 1 But his songs are awesome. I think he might.
Yes.

Speaker 5 He might have some talent.

Speaker 1 His songs go, as the kids say.

Speaker 5 He's growing as an artist. What do you say, Hank?

Speaker 3 More hits than the Beatles.

Speaker 1 More hits than the Beatles. Bigger than Jesus.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, but there were some big moves. Obviously, your Bulls got better, right?

Speaker 1 The Bulls got a lot better. The Bulls basically took the entire Gar Packs

Speaker 1 regime and threw it in the trash can today, which was awesome. Vucevich coming to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr.
and two protected first-round picks. There's nothing worse than the

Speaker 1 fans out there that just want to hold on to all the picks forever.

Speaker 1 If it was a trade for just a random guy i'd understand it but like vuc is he's an all-star two-time all-star he's perfect for zach levine the bulls are finally saying hey instead of let's just be middling all the time and end up with the seventh or eighth pick that means nothing maybe we put someone around zach levine that can actually uh bring the best out of him and go for the playoffs and i'm all in i i'm sick of of missing the playoffs and getting the seventh pick and getting a guy that we have to wait on and hope is good and i the nba if you don't have the first or second, maybe you could throw in the third pick.

Speaker 1 You're kind of in a crapshoot.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's Buddy Boeheim no matter what. In the words of Kevin Costner in draft day.

Speaker 5 So the NBA is a little bit different from the NFL because in the NFL, like we talked about, you make the playoffs, you get that extra week, you get to read the articles, all that stuff.

Speaker 5 In the NBA, unless you're one of the top two or three teams in your conference, it's like, well, we might as well not have made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Well, but all right, so here's the counterpoint to that and what the Bulls are doing, and I actually am fully in support of it.

Speaker 1 If you you want to eventually be a team that can win in the playoffs, you have to make the playoffs. You have to have a culture of, hey, we're trying to compete.

Speaker 1 And then maybe some guys, some veterans, some free agents can see that franchise as a destination. Like, ooh, I maybe want to go there.
There's two all-stars there.

Speaker 1 Instead of saying like, oh, let's just keep losing and hope that we get the number one pick luckily somehow.

Speaker 1 Like eventually you have to put your foot in the sand and say, we're going one way or the other. And I'm happy they're actually, because Zach Levine is too good for them to tank.

Speaker 5 You know what you have to do? You have to build a foundation. You have to have a solid foundation and then be like, they're a couple nice pieces away from contending.

Speaker 5 And then you get the pieces after that.

Speaker 1 I'm excited.

Speaker 5 I'm a little bit bummed out about our magic.

Speaker 1 Our Orlando Magic. They're fully tanking, which they're doing their best.

Speaker 5 They're big sellers right now.

Speaker 5 That was a wild week that we had like six months ago where the Orlando Magic

Speaker 5 was punching way above because nobody liked him. Yeah.
And they played like two nice games, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So they traded Aaron Gordon to the Nuggets, who are, I love what the Nuggets are doing.
The Nuggets are basically saying, hey, we're going to try to win a title.

Speaker 1 They traded Vooch to the Bulls, and then you guys got the Celtis got Evan Fournier, who he did the classic Google My Name, and everyone Googled it. And it's a terrible disease on your dick in Scrotum.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, his last name. Fournier? Dane Green.
Yeah, if you Google it.

Speaker 5 Is it only on your dick in Scrotum?

Speaker 1 I think so. Google it.
Google his last name.

Speaker 5 It would be a great name for Lamello Balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's something else. It's quite something.
Cornier.

Speaker 3 I feel like this is another year, though, where the Celtics did the non-trades. Everyone was expecting trades.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 3 Nothing happened.

Speaker 1 It's very bad. He did it.
He tweeted it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's very bad.

Speaker 1 70% of Blue Waffle. You traded Daniel.

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep calling him Theist.

Speaker 1 Is that okay? Thice. Tice.

Speaker 5 Thice.

Speaker 1 But why? If his name's Tice, then spell it like a real football guy, like Mike Tice.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 German for German trade, though.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's good. Mo Wagner, Ivan Wagner, whatever.

Speaker 1 He was a bull for like a minute.

Speaker 3 He was spelled with a W.

Speaker 3 I haven't seen him play since the college days.

Speaker 5 That's going to be fun.

Speaker 1 Thice is good. Yeah.
Well, his brother's on Michigan, so you can maybe watch him and be like, ooh.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the Wagner twins.

Speaker 3 Franz Vog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I am very, very excited about what the Bulls did.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they're not like a title contender, but they will hopefully make the playoffs now, and they're going to play fun basketball because I watch every Bulls game.

Speaker 1 A lot of nights, I'm like, why am I doing this? But if you watch him, you know that Zach Levine, when he plays with the young guys, it's like not getting the most out of them.

Speaker 1 And now he has some veterans around him, some guys that can play, and it will be very fun to watch.

Speaker 5 It's also going to be fun to watch the Nuggets because they got JaVille McGee, too.

Speaker 5 JaVille McGee, how many times has he been traded? How many teams has he played on? He has played on

Speaker 5 the Shakespeare in the NBA.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say five.

Speaker 5 I think it's more than that.

Speaker 5 You're at 15. I've taken the other.

Speaker 1 You're at 15. I'm at 5.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What other.

Speaker 1 Oh. Ola Depot.
Ola Depot to Miami is a great trade. Yeah, the Rockets somehow, the James Harden trade now is going to look even worse because they have nothing from that.

Speaker 5 George Hill to the Sixers.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say? All the George Hills.

Speaker 7 All the Gets. Second time on the Nuggets.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, how many different teams?

Speaker 5 Seven teams. Seven teams.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 All the Garys got traded.

Speaker 5 J.J. Reddick to the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Gary Harris got traded to, or sorry, Gary Trent Jr.
got traded to the Raptors. And it was pointed out online, I saw someone say that Gary Trent Jr., so Gary Trent Sr.
also played in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Gary Trent Sr. named his sons Gary Trent Jr., Garyson, Grayson, and Graydon.

Speaker 5 Oh, that would suck to be Graydon. Yeah.
Graydon was, that one was very much just like trying to make that last one happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he basically just did a word scramble with Gary.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if you're going to go for for that, do the George Foreman and be like, this is George, this is also George.

Speaker 1 Or do the,

Speaker 1 who did, oh, Gary Payton had

Speaker 1 two sons with different mothers, and one was Gary Payton Jr., one was Gary Payton III.

Speaker 5 I like that. What's the difference between junior and

Speaker 1 second? That's crazy. I don't know.

Speaker 5 So I think second is, in order to be a junior, you have to have first, middle, and last all aligned. Yes.

Speaker 5 But if you want to do a second, you can do like first name and last name, but middle name is different. I think so.
And then that's the thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the rules are. I got it.

Speaker 7 Here it is. Both are used to identify that the person is the second in the family.
Junior is used when the son has the same name as the father.

Speaker 7 The second is used when the elder family member is anyone other than the father.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That made it way more confusing. It sounds like.
Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm very. Yeah, I have no idea what you just said.
So if you weren't the firstborn, you can't be junior. You got to be the second.
Wait.

Speaker 1 That's what it means. I don't know.
I think it is cool. Like, if you're an NBA student.

Speaker 7 Grandfather, uncle, or cousin uses the second.

Speaker 1 Okay, so excuse me.

Speaker 3 But like, if your son had a son and named him

Speaker 1 the second. Got it.
Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's interesting.

Speaker 3 The Heat also are getting LaMarcus Aldridge.

Speaker 1 So when you look at the Eastern Conference finals, can he jump still like

Speaker 1 the fish?

Speaker 3 The Heat are going for it. The Celtics haven't done shit.
So it's like, you can see that the Heat are trying to get better, make another run.

Speaker 1 I like it. Actually, you know what? I'm going to take back what I said at the beginning.
This trade deadline is Fire Emoji. Oh, shit.
Yeah. It's back.
Chef, you was right.

Speaker 5 Now, did he say fire emoji or did he he tweet the fire emoji?

Speaker 1 Tweet the fire emoji. Woge also, now we are Sham's podcast, but he got worked by Woach.
Woj did the

Speaker 1 classic, like, oh, people think that I've lost my fastball. Well, here's 101 on the black.

Speaker 5 Do you think that Woj wakes up in the morning on trade deadline? He's got all these drafted ready to go because he knows exactly what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Like a, oh, we can't say his name, like a Revelle Super Bowl day? Exactly. Yeah.
I don't know. That would be.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 it was a good. It was a lot of like different trades and different moves.
And I do like that there's some teams. I just like whenever there's teams that are really like, hey, let's try to win.

Speaker 1 And then the full tank Rockets. And the Rockets might be the worst team ever.
And the Magic.

Speaker 1 You also, Hank, so what are your thoughts overall? Because you guys, you got Luke Cornette, who is Robert Ore 2.0, according to Jim Boylan.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 3 Like I said, you look at the Eastern Conference finals last year. The Heat have made improvements.
They're going for it. The Celtics aren't really doing shit.

Speaker 3 And their team is not as good as they were last year going into the trade deadline. Didn't get Aaron Gordon.
We kept Marcus March.

Speaker 3 I was happy about some Celtics fans are trying to well actually meet telling me that we need to get rid of Marcus Mart. I disagree, so I'm happy we kept him.
But overall, I'm disappointed.

Speaker 3 And I don't,

Speaker 3 there's no way we're winning. There's no way we're beating that.

Speaker 3 We're probably not going to beat the Heat again.

Speaker 3 That's what he talks about the NBA is where

Speaker 3 there's really only a few teams that are going to make the finals.

Speaker 5 How long do you think it's going to take for Danny Ainge to leak a report saying how close they were to getting their targeted free agents yeah it's the joke everyone's making people are saying Danny Ainge is going to be in the hot seat uh

Speaker 3 I don't know it has been a long time where

Speaker 3 there was a time where Danny Ainge was like the guy trader Danny has all these picks those picks didn't really amount to shit and now

Speaker 3 you know what are we doing he he actually was genius in that you just hoard picks and everyone be like well we're gonna do something eventually well that's what the thunder are doing but that's that's where it's like they hoard picks every trade deadline they're in it they're like oh they can get this guy because they have so many picks but they never do anything i also saw that bull bull was trending for a while today.

Speaker 5 I guess that's the new thing: to be like the Nuggets are adding pieces around Bull Bowl.

Speaker 5 I do want to see him get more minutes because there's nothing sweeter than seeing Bull Bull run the floor and do a behind-the-back dribble. He's smooth, he looks like a magician.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Kedrick Perkins, who

Speaker 1 called the Chicago Bulls acquisition Boos a bitch, which I kind of like that. Yeah, so I might just go with that and start.
Here, here was, he was struggling with it.

Speaker 1 I'm all in on that. Sell the Boost of Bitch jerseys.
But yeah, it was cool that the NBA trade deadline actually had some moves because I feel like we've had a few that haven't had that.

Speaker 1 Any other thoughts quickly on trade deadline? Anything?

Speaker 5 Anyone? Hot Stove League. Hot Stove League.

Speaker 1 Kyle Lowry, the big news. Oh, Lou Williams gets to go to Magic City, Atlanta.
That's huge.

Speaker 5 A lot of people made that joke. Get the lemon pepper wings.
Yeah, I did hand up. I did that one.

Speaker 5 Lemon pepper wings are, like, ever since that story came out, I've just been putting lemon pepper on everything. Not just wings.
It makes literally

Speaker 5 everything better. Wait, that's also

Speaker 5 kind of right before I started developing kidney stones.

Speaker 1 Worth it. Worth it.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Let me think. Oh.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Oh, yeah.
So Rondo's on the Clippers. That will be interesting to watch Rondo bother.

Speaker 1 Like, hopefully the Clippers and the Lakers play in the playoffs, and we'll get to see playoff Rondo do it to the Lakers.

Speaker 5 The Braun Stopper. That's the first time.
People want to get Rondo there, yeah.

Speaker 1 Rondo really was the reason why they won the title.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Rondo's a guy that also has the revenge factor. Like, he carries grudges.
I like mean Rondo. When he gets mad at people, he's more effective.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I mean, I don't really expect the Clippers to do jack shit in the playoffs again this year, but also be nice to see him out there.

Speaker 1 People were being really mean to AD on Twitter the last couple days, which I didn't appreciate. So that was the other big story.
Oh, about what?

Speaker 1 I'm actually talking about Andy Dalton. I'm thinking about doing a rebrand for him.
Okay, AD. What do you think? What do you think? Do you like that? I just tried that out.

Speaker 5 AD is not bad. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, if we just start calling him AD, people were like, hey, that's not bad.

Speaker 5 How sick would Andy Dalton look with a red unibrow, too?

Speaker 1 Dude, like, when you say, oh, yeah, AD is going to ball out this year, I don't know. It kind of makes me feel like

Speaker 1 I am very, very close to... I even texted our friend Perloff,

Speaker 1 who's part of the Dan Patrick show, because he is probably the biggest AD stan out there. I texted him.

Speaker 1 I was like, hey, we probably need to get together in the next week or two so you can just give me all your notes.

Speaker 1 Because I think with the way the Bears are just trolling everyone, I think I'm going to get in on the troll. I think I'm going to be an AD guy.

Speaker 5 I love that the main account from your team is so self-aware that they made a meaningless move that they're trolling Twitter by putting out QB1 graphics of Andy Dalton Photoshop into a Bears channel.

Speaker 1 They've actually been on fire. It's fire.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I love it personally.

Speaker 5 If I was a Bears fan,

Speaker 5 I would have to do what you're doing, which is just like talk yourself all the way into it.

Speaker 5 What about the Dolt Train?

Speaker 1 All the boards. Dolph Trains.

Speaker 1 The Bears have been on fire. They did AD boxing, and then they did the band getting back together, and it was the special teams unit.

Speaker 1 It was the.

Speaker 5 Oh, you mean we fence? Yeah.

Speaker 1 As Ron Zook put it, it was fucking. They're just trolling everyone.
I guess at some point, if you're so bad and you piss everyone off, just be like, it was just a prank, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was just a fucking joke.

Speaker 5 They got Andy Dalton for the retweets.

Speaker 1 Say it again.

Speaker 5 They got AD for the clouds.

Speaker 1 That sounds way better. Doesn't it? I think, yeah, I think I'm going to be an AD guy.

Speaker 5 I like that you're talking yourself into it. I'm starting to talk myself in the football team news.

Speaker 5 I was dismayed when I woke up yesterday because I saw the report that Dan Snyder was buying out all the shares of minority owners, which is people are saying it's because the report on how big of a creep Dan Snyder is is about to come out.

Speaker 5 And it turns out he's just a normal creep, allegedly. So he's going to have to keep the team.

Speaker 5 And it's pretty much as close to a death sentence for a fan as you can get because Dan Snyder is going to outlive me. I know I've accepted that a long time ago, even though he's like 30 years older.

Speaker 5 He's got all the good billionaire medicine.

Speaker 1 I would guess he's got a shithead son, right?

Speaker 5 He's got a son. I don't know any

Speaker 5 shithead.

Speaker 1 I mean, odds are. He will become one.

Speaker 5 Odds are that if you grow up with Dan Snyder as your role model, you probably... But I don't know him.
I might be way off on that.

Speaker 1 We'll hold back.

Speaker 5 He's going to be the owner of the football team for my entire life. And so now I'm having to figure out a way to spin zone myself into that.

Speaker 5 I'm just saying like maybe the problem was Dan didn't have enough control. Maybe the CEO of FedEx was the one that was screwing everything up.
I mean I've seen castaway.

Speaker 1 It could be.

Speaker 5 Those guys fuck everything up. They just, first sign of any sort of adversity, they start opening up other people's packages.
I don't trust them.

Speaker 1 Just spin yourself off the planet of the earth.

Speaker 5 I'm a UPS guy. I'm a UPS guy.
I'm just like a top spinning.

Speaker 1 I'm a dreidel just spinning at all times, just trying to figure out a way.

Speaker 5 I don't care, though, because the balls made good moves and I'm down I'm in with AD I think I'm all in on Dan Snyder too Dan Snyder just a normal creep there you go perfect um all right let's get to let's do some talk about the sweet 16 coming up uh before we do that hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local boars head retailer or you create your own spread at home with boars head premium deli meats and cheeses you are sure to impress your guests my favorites like oven gold turkey or blazing buffalo style chicken paired with their classic Vermont cheddar or creamy Munster cheese are sure to score big and help me elevate my entertainment every time whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

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Speaker 1 Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 The reseeding was a disaster, Jake. You reseeded afterwards.
Yeah, it was clean. Do you want to give it to us? Give it to us so that we have something to go on?

Speaker 5 I think where we went wrong when we tried to reseed, in my head, I was reseeding teams based on how I personally felt they were playing.

Speaker 5 What Jake did was you just did it like the committee because he got it right.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, the reseed. And the Bama twice was a great chip.
Yeah, it happens. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Jay Billis did the same thing. I know.

Speaker 1 He was probably listening to our show. Yeah.
Jay Billis doesn't fucking follow anyone on Twitter. He's such a hardo dude.

Speaker 7 The 116 matchup is Gonzaga O.

Speaker 1 Roberts.

Speaker 7 8-9. Creighton Villanova.

Speaker 7 Okay, keep going. 5-12.
Do you want me to go in order or say the matchup?

Speaker 1 No, just say the list. Okay.

Speaker 7 Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan, Alabama, Houston, Arkansas, FSU, Creighton, Villanova, USC, Oregon, Loyola, Syracuse, UCLA, Oregon State, or Roberts.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 I think Loyola is too high there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should be. Loyola fans were not happy with me when I did a factual thing.

Speaker 1 No respect. Like, relax.
Relax. Relax.
They also have a very, like, what's going to happen, what you should have realized, Jake, is that Loyola has a path to the final four here that's not that hard.

Speaker 1 So you should have put them higher because now it's going to happen. They're going to get to the final four and you're going to look like an idiot.
You don't think they will? I mean, bias Syracuse.

Speaker 7 That's the only thing. But yes.
If it wasn't Syracuse, yes, they're going to get back.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Loyola and Oregon State playing the first game.

Speaker 5 Sister Jean has refused to release her scouting report publicly. She said because Oregon State might be listening.

Speaker 5 So she's around her little cauldron, wagging her eye of Newt, making all these predictions, looking in the reflection of whatever toad broth that she's got boiling up.

Speaker 5 I love Loyola in this.

Speaker 1 The problem is, Oregon State,

Speaker 1 they are a team that has been so hot, and I made the decision to start betting on them back in the Pac-12 conference tournament, and it has paid off wonderfully. So I'm pot committed.

Speaker 1 You got to stick to the point. You got to keep taking the points and just, you know, I want Loyola to win, but if there's seven points in a game that's going to be very low scoring, give it to me.

Speaker 1 Baylor's going to truck Villanova. Put it on a board.
Put it on a quote board. And I love Villanova.
Villanova fans, we've been through the ringer many years.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Baylor, I've seen that Baylor team. They're going to truck you.

Speaker 5 Somebody asked us who was paying us to not talk about Baylor.

Speaker 5 I wish somebody was paying.

Speaker 1 I'm doing bad stuff in that program.

Speaker 5 You should actually pay us to not talk about Baylor if you're a Baylor fan.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 Jailer.

Speaker 1 Oral Roberts, Arkansas. Arkansas is going to kill him.

Speaker 5 Must-bus. Must-bust all the way.
Must-bust.

Speaker 1 We just won on the record. I mean, we talked about it with Nate Oates, but we are must-bust guys.

Speaker 3 That Kevin Bacon story didn't change your opinion.

Speaker 1 What is the Kevin Bacon story? Or Roberts Foot Loose?

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, the head coach was in a barbershop, and he heard Kevin Bacon was getting a facial in the back.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's serious. Like,

Speaker 5 facial.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Explain a facial.

Speaker 5 Then Ken Bacon came out the back, and the head coach was like, hey, you like your facial? And Ken Bacon was like, Yeah, you look like you need a couple. Like, saying, like, his face looked like shit.

Speaker 5 So then the head coach goes, Yeah, I got it. Thank you.
Head coach goes, Well, I'm not wearing any panties, so what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't really know. And they almost got in a fight.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 When was this? He should have kicked Kevin Bacon's ass.

Speaker 1 When was this?

Speaker 5 That was the word for word. I actually, I take points off the Oral Roberts coach.
If Kevin Bacon talks shit to you,

Speaker 5 we had him in the studio. Kevin Bacon is about my size.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on, hold on. Swing on that.
So two dudes almost got in a fight at a facial factory? I think 20 plus years ago. Barbara shot.
Oh, okay. 20 plus years ago.

Speaker 5 Wait, wait, this wasn't like yesterday?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this has nothing to do with it. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Come on. By a million.
Not even with the points? No. Fuck Oral Roberts.
Arkansas, bro.

Speaker 3 I'm taking the points just for that. I'm also

Speaker 1 the end of Oral Roberts' jokes that, like, I'm ready for them to be gone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Two is the perfect amount. Yeah, it's over.
I think Syracuse is going to win on Saturday night, Jake. Buddy Baby.
Me too. Number one pick.
Houston should not.

Speaker 1 Rutgers blew that game. Yeah.
Rutgers should have beat him.

Speaker 5 I'm all over Houston.

Speaker 1 Or I'm all over Syracuse, too, because

Speaker 5 the zone.

Speaker 6 That's right. You need to know.

Speaker 7 And if the number one draft pick keeps shooting well, they're going to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So you had Buddy Beheim on your podcast. Yes.

Speaker 1 And you told him that I had him number one on my big board. Yes.
He seemed to think that in the back of his head, he's like, oh, nice. I'm finally getting the respect I deserve.

Speaker 1 No, he said it was a joke. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's like, I know it's a joke. I didn't watch the whole clip.
It was too long.

Speaker 7 It was like 55 seconds long.

Speaker 1 He gave me the retweet. That's all that matters.

Speaker 7 The retweet.

Speaker 1 The retweet's all that matters.

Speaker 5 35 seconds too long. What's the other Bayheim's name?

Speaker 7 Jimmy. Jimmy.

Speaker 1 He plays at Cornell.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I heard a rumor on the street that Jimmy was thinking about doing a grad transfer to Syracuse next year. That would be great.

Speaker 1 Play for his pop.

Speaker 5 The Bayheim twins? Buddy comes back, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're twins. I don't think they're true.
No, we've got old trouble, yeah. It's better when they're twins.
Oh, okay. Guys like twins.

Speaker 5 They're all twins. Right.

Speaker 1 All right, Sunday.

Speaker 1 All right. Let me see if I can can do this right because everyone gets really mad gunzat no

Speaker 1 gonzaga gonzaga gonziga

Speaker 5 how do you pronounce it it's a it's a long ass

Speaker 1 gonziga the gonzigas gonzaga sounds like a panda gon what was the gonzaga gonzaga gon gonzaga

Speaker 1 they're like the zaga fans are very mad this this

Speaker 1 yeah you guys are gonna win you guys win it all you don't think so i think they're getting upset against creighton yep with the p words so chalky that it's.

Speaker 1 Do you remember the P-word? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't win a title. I mean, they've won two games.

Speaker 5 It's the opposite of a team against AOC at that point.

Speaker 1 Oh, AOC, the return of AOC.

Speaker 1 That would be... Yeah.

Speaker 1 You are the biggest AOC fan I know.

Speaker 5 AOC upsetting Washington again. Yep.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 Florida State, Michigan. I don't know who's going to win this game.

Speaker 5 Hank, how many people get mad at you for any AOC tweet that you put out? A lot.

Speaker 1 A lot. It's shocking.

Speaker 3 People get mad at you guys when I tweet on AOC.

Speaker 1 They got mad at me. Oh, yeah.
I had the same day. I had A-O-C-T-U, and then I also

Speaker 1 David Duke, parentheses, Providence, because he hit a game winning show.

Speaker 7 Oh, I learned that the hard way.

Speaker 1 At the beginning of the season, PFT told me.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think Jake was like, David Duke is amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can't say that.

Speaker 5 Can't say it at all. I do love the people that snitch tagged to me and Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Like, Hank made a political reference.

Speaker 1 Lock him up.

Speaker 1 All right, so Florida State, Michigan. I don't know.
This game, I, yeah, this game's going to be good, and I don't know who's going to win.

Speaker 5 It's a terrible. My heart says Michigan.

Speaker 1 My heart says Florida State, unfortunately. I just feel like they're Florida State's always good for one big win in the tournament and then to lose the next game.

Speaker 3 Big Ten needs it.

Speaker 1 And everyone says Leonard Hamilton, like, can you believe it? He's one of the best coaches that hasn't been to a Final Four. And also, how old is he now? 72.

Speaker 7 He's in his mid-70s, I think.

Speaker 5 He looks like he's 40.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 7 My friend did a Rothschinism. Ages like fine line.

Speaker 5 That's good. That's a great one.

Speaker 1 Did he make that up? I'm going to give you as much silence as possible after after that, just to make it as awkward as possible. Say it again.
No, here we go.

Speaker 1 No, say it again. Say it again.

Speaker 7 We'll react. He's 72.
Say it again. Leonard Hamilton ages like fine wine.

Speaker 1 It's my friend.

Speaker 1 It's a big sheet. You could just say that you came up with it, Jake.
I don't even think it's a Rossi. I'm not sure if I don't think that's a common thing that's

Speaker 1 anything that's old. It's like Leonard Hamilton.

Speaker 5 Timeless Wonder.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Whatever.

Speaker 1 All right. UCLA Bama.
We have Nate Oates on. We have had McCronin on.

Speaker 3 Like, Rosting would have been ages like a shitty movie from the 90s that still is good.

Speaker 1 Ages, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 Ages like. Ages like face-off.

Speaker 5 What do you mean, shitty moody? A shitty movie with face-off. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's an incredible movie.

Speaker 3 Well, that stood up to the test of time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it should do that. One actor plays the other guy.
Jake, to do a full Rosting, you got to tell your friend, to do a full rosting, it can't be a common saying.

Speaker 1 It has to be a saying that makes no sense, really. It has no real comedic value.

Speaker 6 Yeah, like Dana Altman of Oregon and the Rubik's Cube.

Speaker 1 Ages like Twinkies. Right, and then eventually,

Speaker 1 ages like Twinkies. And then eventually, if you just hammer people with it enough, they're like, huh, that's funny.
That's the Rostianism. That's how you do it.

Speaker 5 Ages like a painting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ages like a rock.

Speaker 1 That would be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ages like the Earth.

Speaker 1 Over 3 billion.

Speaker 5 How many years?

Speaker 5 60,000. 60,000 years? 60,000 years old.

Speaker 1 That's it? That's it, yeah. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Earth is so young Drake would hit it.

Speaker 7 4.543 billion. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you call 60,000?

Speaker 5 That's just a fact. Read your Bible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Oh, Billy's got the 65 million years ago as the dinosaurs died.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Billy. It'd be sick, though, if the Earth was like mad young still.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And we're just all its acne.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're just dealing with it. Yeah.
We're just getting through some growing pains.

Speaker 1 UCLA Bama.

Speaker 1 Anyone?

Speaker 5 I like Bama.

Speaker 1 Is UCLA a team of destiny?

Speaker 5 UCLA is fun, and I like Mick Cronin. And yes, whenever I tweet out a picture of him, it's just because I'm taller than him.
That's pretty much the only reason why.

Speaker 5 I do like him being an outlier in LA. It's very funny to me that Mr.
Cincinnati is like the blue-collar UCLA guy. But I think I got to go Bama.
It might just be because we interviewed Nate Oates.

Speaker 5 That actually might be what pushed me over the top. And my allegiance can be bought very easily for the cost of one interview on this show.
But I think

Speaker 5 they've just been scoring to like 96 points against Maryland. To me, that made me feel like Alabama might reach the final four.

Speaker 1 They go nuclear.

Speaker 1 If Mick Cronin, he kind of screwed up. But I know

Speaker 1 it's hindsight's 2020. You don't know how long you're going to last in the tournament.

Speaker 1 But the whole storyline of not seeing his dad, not hugging his dad for two years or a year and a half, whatever it's been.

Speaker 1 He used it in the first weekend. He should have brought his dad out for this weekend.
Then they win this game. I truly believe that.

Speaker 1 If they're showing Hep Cronin in the stands and being like, man, after this game, they're going to get to hug.

Speaker 5 They somehow find a way. The dad game is a game changer.
It is.

Speaker 1 And then Oregon USC, which will be great. We really should have Bill Walton calling this.
I hope he does like a live stream or something and just cucks CBS. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 But I'm excited for this game. And the Mobley twins.
Yeah. Who aren't twins.
But they are.

Speaker 5 I think I like USC.

Speaker 1 Conference champions.

Speaker 1 They're the.

Speaker 1 that's, yeah. I, this is how stupid gamblers are and people in the world and how we watch games.
I think if you flipped when those games were played, everyone would be like, Oregon's going to win.

Speaker 1 I'm just still. If Oregon had beaten Iowa in the nightcap versus USC beating Kansas in the 11 o'clock game, I think everyone would win.
Yeah, recently bias.

Speaker 5 I think I'm also mad at Oregon for beating Iowa because Hank convinced me to bet on

Speaker 5 Iowa, and then that screwed up my entire 17th parlay.

Speaker 1 Fucked up. Okay, thanks.
That's a fair thing. I took Iowa.

Speaker 1 They're not bad. They're not bad.

Speaker 5 Well, I also look at Oregon and I also saw a tweet that was like 80%.

Speaker 3 It was really the under, though. I saw a tweet that was like, you were on Iowa.
I said the under.

Speaker 5 I said Iowa and the under, and you talked me into Oregon and the over.

Speaker 1 Wait. No.
Then you talked you into the over.

Speaker 5 No, no, sorry. You talked me into Iowa and the under.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I had the opposite of what happened two ways. But I think that Oregon, so this was their first game.

Speaker 5 Now I'm like, okay, now they're in the tournament. They're not as fresh.
They had the freshness advantage over Iowa last week.

Speaker 3 All I said to PFD, and this is fair in hindsight, was like, if you bet on Oregon and they come out and throw an absolute stinker, how dumb are you going to feel? I didn't say bet Iowa, but I was.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, that's not.

Speaker 3 We were on the way to the airport, and you were like, should I bet Iowa or Oregon?

Speaker 3 I was like, well, if you bet Oregon and they come out, they haven't played a game yet on unchartered territory and they suck, you're gonna look like an idiot.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's totally different from the title. And I did tell you,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, it's okay, it happens.

Speaker 1 Hey, gotta lose some, you gotta give some back, right? Uh, all right, let's do our interview. We have Nate Oates, coach of Alabama, who will be coaching in the game on Sunday against UCLA.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is. Alabama head coach Nate Oates.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome our very special guest. It is head coach of Alabama basketball.
They're in the Sweet 16 on Sunday against UCLA. It is Coach Nate Oates.

Speaker 1 And we just said before we started, we were going to throw in a disclaimer so that you know that we are tried and true must-bust guys and Tom Creen guys.

Speaker 1 So we've known Tom Creen, Coach Creen, for actually like many years now.

Speaker 1 We visited him at Georgia a couple times, and we're also must-bus guys.

Speaker 1 Maybe, oh, if you're not watching, Coach Oates is now ripping up a piece of paper that said bashing Tom Creen and muscleman and he's throwing that in the trash so we're good we're good i so i'm

Speaker 11 no we're good listen i'm from wisconsin originally so i used to actually work coach creen's camps at marquette back when i was like a d3 assistant so i've known tom forever and tom's actually been good to me since i've been in the league he's a michigan state guy i was in detroit for 11 years so i know tom me and tom are good muscleman i coached against him when he was at nevada and i was at buffalo We came into the league together at the same time.

Speaker 11 He's done a great job. I mean, I respect that guy.

Speaker 11 He beat beat me when he's at Nevada. They shoot, they beat us at their place pretty good this year.
So we're all good.

Speaker 1 All right, good. So you actually just brought it up.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask this later on in the interview, but from Wisconsin, got your graduate degree from the University of Wisconsin where I went and then coached high school in the Detroit area.

Speaker 1 So how much can I attribute Alabama's run to the Big Ten? 90%, 95%? Like, I'm counting this as a win for the Big Ten. Is that okay?

Speaker 11 Yeah, go down with Wisconsin, Native. We're a Big Ten country.
Like, I mean, whatever you want. I mean, you're the boss, whatever you want.
You know, just contribute it how you want.

Speaker 1 Okay. Look, we play a lot.

Speaker 11 We play a lot different than Wisconsin, though. I mean, we're not, I don't know if you like Wisconsin style of play or, you know, like, but we're definitely not playing like the Badgers.

Speaker 11 But I'm a big, I'm a Badger fan. Now, I'm obviously an Alabama football fan being down here.

Speaker 11 you know, while I was a basketball coach, before I got to Alabama, I was always pulling for Badger football.

Speaker 5 Well, I know at Buffalo, you were incorporating things into your practices that were very, very Big Ten-like. I don't know if you still do them, but you do things.
You would add like extra points.

Speaker 5 You had your own scoring system, right? For like hustle plays, which I assume, I don't know, like diving for a loose ball, taking a charge, keeping a block shot inbounds, those sorts of plays.

Speaker 5 Are you still doing that down in the SEC at Alabama?

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, we still do it. We call it our blue collar points.
We give out a hard hat at the end. And so maybe the helmet's football-ish, you know, it's more like a construction hard hat.
But

Speaker 11 we try to value the uh the dirty, dry

Speaker 11 like football. You know what? So, I was in Detroit 11 years.
I used to go to Michigan State to practice, so it was some more Big Ten stuff a lot.

Speaker 11 Izzo would always have like the shoulder pads and the helmets in there ready to like throw the pads on for a rebounding drill or whatever.

Speaker 11 So, we haven't broke, we haven't broken down any shoulder pads or helmets or any of that stuff, but we

Speaker 11 still do the whole scoring system. Yeah, done a little research, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 11 yeah, PFT. So, I was on, I was gonna bring up, like, I must have have been all right on the JV show.
I was on the bench mob show.

Speaker 11 Is that like, I go back to like, I like go back to my high school days, like my freshman year in high school, I play well enough on JV and then they move me up to varsity.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that what happened?

Speaker 5 We went back and we watched the film. I assigned you some blue-collar points for some of your answers in that interview.

Speaker 5 So I was like, yeah, I think we're ready to move him up and see if he can take a charge in the big leagues here.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 11 I went from JV to the varsity. Now, I'm on the varsity with the Barstool Sports now or what?

Speaker 1 Yes, you are. So, all right, so so you, you, to just go back to your, uh, what you said a minute ago, no, I do not like Wisconsin style of play.
I much prefer what you've done at Alabama. It's fun.

Speaker 1 It's exciting. The thing I don't understand, I can't wrap my head around, and obviously this is why you are a great coach and have had so much success.

Speaker 1 How the heck do you get your team to play so fast and also play great defense? Those have never gone together in basketball. It's never, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, you think of the fastest teams, the running gun, even like the seven seconds or less suns, like the idea of pushing the pace, but also playing great, efficient defense. How have you done that?

Speaker 11 That's like a Big Jay journalist question right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, because it baffles me.

Speaker 1 I'm curious. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Come up with that on your own or did Jake feed you that one? No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I came up with my own. I'll tell you why, Coach, I'll tell you exactly how I came up with my own because I did.

Speaker 1 You guys, your offense is so much fun to watch and you shoot so many threes that I would start to take overs for Alabama games but then they would not hit because you guys were playing too good a defense and I was like what the fuck is going on here and then I was like oh crap they're ruining it on the defensive end because a team that plays at that pace should always go over that's true we do we like to get up and down but when the defense is really good it takes the other team a long time to figure out how to score then to slow stuff up a little bit so look I I mean, it's a good question.

Speaker 11 We've always played open free. It kind of goes back to my high school coaching days in Detroit.

Speaker 11 We had athletes all over and did a bunch of skill development opened the floor up so it's always been my philosophy but i think when you give them as much freedom as we give them on offense you can demand a lot more out of them on defense so there's a little give and take like we're gonna let you play on the offensive end but you in return we're gonna demand a lot out of you on the defensive end and i i don't think pace of play correlates to defensive efficiency at all, which you can tell.

Speaker 11 I mean, we're top three in the country in defensive efficiency.

Speaker 11 We've been number one for a few weeks and kind of fluctuate, but you know, on our offenses, one of the fastest, if not the fastest in power five.

Speaker 11 So I think we can still push the pace on offense and then demand a lot out of them on defense and get stopped. So yeah, I mean, we're proven you can do it right now.
We did it at Buffalo, too.

Speaker 11 My last year at Buffalo, I think we were 21st in the country offensive efficiency. Maybe we were top five in the country in scoring.

Speaker 11 And then we were 31st in the country in defensive efficiency, which is.

Speaker 5 not

Speaker 11 easy to do it in mid-major because it's all you know based on somewhat on your opponents and stuff, too.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 How are things going for you inside the bubble? Because you're a high-energy guy. I expect a lot of the coaches that are still remaining for the most part, there's some young guys.

Speaker 5 There's some like guys that'll bounce off the wall, don't like being cooped up in a room for too long. Are you having to like schedule activities to counter your boredom?

Speaker 5 Make sure you don't sit around like gnawing your paws off like a high-energy dog that you leave alone in the house? Or like, what, how have you adapted to living in this bubble environment?

Speaker 11 So that's, that's a good question. We, uh, the first day was bad because because it literally made us just sit in this room that I'm sitting in like the whole day.
We got the COVID tests.

Speaker 11 We cat in Sunday night after we won the SEC tournament. And then all day long, they finally let us out at like nine at night after we got two negative COVID tests.

Speaker 11 Since then, so they've got this victory field, a baseball field. So I go for run.
I got to get outside. I don't know about you.
I can't stay inside all day.

Speaker 11 I've been out the victory field a few times. Last night we went to the zoo.
I've been trying to work out a little bit. I thought, look, your

Speaker 11 guy Moss was actually really smart.

Speaker 11 I think he puts out a social media video every three hours or something. So everybody knows what he's got going on.
He brought the Peloton.

Speaker 11 You guys saw that or not?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 11 Yeah, like that was smart.

Speaker 11 I was like, dang, that would have been smart.

Speaker 11 Then you could actually work out in your room instead of have to sign up for the 6 a.m. slot.
And I'm not, you know, I wasn't real motivated to get up at 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 to go for a run.

Speaker 11 But I've been outside a little bit.

Speaker 11 We're going to order a pool table and arcade game in for our players. Our meeting room is supposed to be coming tonight.
So I like to shoot a little pool.

Speaker 11 What else we got going on? Oh, we're going to top golf tonight. They're kind of letting us out of our little.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm terrible. My golf game stinks, but you know, who knows? Maybe I hit one out there a little bit.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the idea of going to the zoo.

Speaker 5 I'm a big fan of zoos. Like, if you have a bad time at a zoo, I don't think that I can be friends with you.
It would just never work out.

Speaker 5 What did you guys do at the zoo?

Speaker 1 No, I was all about it.

Speaker 11 I was in there.

Speaker 11 I mean, you know, what do you do at a zoo?

Speaker 11 Stare at the animals.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean,

Speaker 11 where do you guys live? Is there a zoo where you guys live?

Speaker 5 We got the Bronx Zoo. We got the Central Park Zoo, which I think has two lemurs and a couple penguins.
And then some depressed bears that are like, why am I living in New York City? I don't get this.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, we don't,

Speaker 5 it's not a great zoo that's really close by, but anytime I go to the zoo, it's it's like the highlight of my year.

Speaker 11 Yeah, some of our guys were like all fired up. How about one of our guys had never been to a zoo before we took him last night? I didn't know that would be possible for a college-aged kid.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Seeing those big animals for the first time, it'll blow your mind.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and you know, at Alabama, we got the elephants. So the whole team got our picture taken in front of the elephants.
You know, we got the roll tide with the elephant. I still haven't failed.

Speaker 11 I work at Alabama. I'm still not quite sure how, you know, we're the Crimson Tide, but our mascot's an elephant.

Speaker 11 Maybe you guys can do some research. It might be a Big J journalist kind of research project one of these days.

Speaker 5 I think this might just, it might be completely wrong, but I think the Crimson Tide was named after a Big J journalist who he wrote an article about an Alabama football game, and he said that Alabama's players were washing over the opponent like a crimson tide out there on the field.

Speaker 5 And so they named the entire program after a column, which is, I mean, that's like the peak of journalism right there.

Speaker 11 So you're going to claim like that was the original Big J journalist that wrote that cup because that is the story they're giving. Like they ran over him like a crimson tide.

Speaker 11 Looks like a herd of elephants stampeding down the field or something like that. That was the original Big J journalist, though?

Speaker 5 I think so, yeah. And actually,

Speaker 5 we had a debate last Saturday. We were talking about Alabama football.
I've seen some pictures of you at the games.

Speaker 5 You obviously like have ingrained yourself in the culture of the school a little bit.

Speaker 5 Do you think that if you were to coach Alabama's football team as a basketball team, how many wins do you think you could have gotten this season with those athletes?

Speaker 11 Shoot, man. They got some pretty good athletes, right? Like Devontae Smith could probably get up and down on our pace a little bit.
I think Mac Jones, would Mac Jones be a quarterback?

Speaker 11 You know, he's actually good.

Speaker 11 Bryce Young, Bryce Young, I've seen Bryce Young play a little hoop. You know, he was backup quarterback.
He can hoop a little bit. They got some big boys inside, too.

Speaker 11 We could play a little smash mouth on the offensive glass.

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 11 I don't know how skilled they'd all be, but

Speaker 11 we'd make it fun for sure. We'd win a few.
We'd get out there and win a few games.

Speaker 1 Has Saban maybe said something like, Hey, look, I'm rooting for you guys, but don't go, don't get too good because we're still the meal ticket here. Like, we're still the big dogs in town.

Speaker 11 No, he's not, none of that. He's been great.
He congratulated me after the regular season title, after the tournament title. He's he's been all, I think that he's a basketball guy.

Speaker 11 He uh, him and his or still believes he, you know, go back to the man's days at Michigan State. And he's uh, he uh

Speaker 11 he has a little noon, uh, like yeah, I don't know, his staff comes over and plays. You've heard about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've heard about it. I think he like rigs it so he always wins, doesn't he? Have you ever played there? Have you ever gone and shot around?

Speaker 11 So, two, you know, I've only been here two years. So, last year he got hip surgery.
So, I think that kind of cut out their noon league.

Speaker 11 And I asked him, I said, you still gonna be able to play basketball? And he said, what? So, why do you think I got the surgery done? So, obviously, it was,

Speaker 11 and then this year we got the COVID stuff going on. So, I, you know, like, maybe when I get back, and maybe if everybody's got their vaccination done, or who knows, maybe I'll jump in.

Speaker 11 I got to work on my jumper, though, because if he's going to pick me up, he's got, you know, he's got to be able to see I can make some shots.

Speaker 11 So, I might have to get in the gym and start working on my game after the season's over.

Speaker 5 What are the rules going to be in that? Like, if you, if you guard him one-on-one, are you going to be able to really put the clamps on him?

Speaker 5 Are you going to, are you going to put the body on him, or is it saving and you're like, can't touch?

Speaker 11 From what I've heard, he picks his team and then he

Speaker 11 guards him on the other team. So my guess would be if I was guarding him, that would be really, that would say something about my defensive abilities.

Speaker 11 That would mean I'm an awful defender if he picks me to guard him.

Speaker 11 So hopefully I wouldn't be guarding him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's like Justin Bieber when he practices against his worst friend and then makes his other friend take a video so that goes up online. That's what Saban does in the run.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Did you have...

Speaker 11 He's not big on the video, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Have you been asked or commented on the end of the SEC championship game, which, by the way, was one of my favorite games of the entire year?

Speaker 1 That was a high-level game, great shot making, great drama.

Speaker 1 What exactly did you say to LSU in that moment?

Speaker 11 I don't know what I said. I got really excited.

Speaker 11 I think some people tried to read lips.

Speaker 11 I didn't mean any disrespect to LSU.

Speaker 11 I figured you guys would bring that up. Somebody did a little Big J journalist research, you know, like I watched it.

Speaker 1 I watched it. I was watching it.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 And I have actually a bone to pick with you because I think that, you know, the style you guys play, the way that you, you know, speak your mind is all refreshing, but you apologize too much.

Speaker 1 The fact that you apologized for Coach K earlier this year, those comments, like, stop apologizing. Just be yourself.

Speaker 11 Just say it and just be done with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What does it matter?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's people disagree that that to me, at the end of the SEC game, that was just a coach who was passionate about his team, who was in a great game, who'd been in a long season, letting out a little bit of emotion.

Speaker 1 That's sports. Like, that's sports.
That's what it should be about.

Speaker 11 That is what it was. I was fired up.
You know, we had a little, did you see the little brew, a little scuffle before the game?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 That's why we watched sports.

Speaker 11 There was a little extra emotion involved in that one. And there was a few other things going on behind the scenes.
So

Speaker 11 we needed to make sure we had that win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 we're on four game.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Yeah, we got that win.

Speaker 1 We're good.

Speaker 5 I think I read your lips after the game. What I saw was great freaking win, guys.

Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah, that's

Speaker 1 great. Yeah, I love that passion coach.

Speaker 11 PFT is my guy.

Speaker 1 PFT is my guy.

Speaker 11 That's what I'm claiming. That's what I said.

Speaker 5 And then you had to go kind of,

Speaker 5 was it out of the flames and into the frying pan and face off against a legendary coach, Rick Petino, in the first round? Great, like one of the all-time legends of the game.

Speaker 5 And you knew you were going to get 40 minutes of hell from him. What What was your game plan? Like, did you have to make any

Speaker 5 adjustments leading into that game, knowing Coach Betino's style of play?

Speaker 11 You know what? I didn't know what he was going to do exactly. I mean, he's obviously a Hall of Fame coach.
He's won multiple national championships.

Speaker 11 Agreed.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, you know, I had to go against him. I

Speaker 11 didn't sign up for that, getting a two-seed. You know,

Speaker 11 we were the only Power Five team to win the regular season and the tournament championship in a Power Five League.

Speaker 11 And then they lined me up with Rick Petino, a Hall of Fame coach in the first round so i yeah i i didn't i didn't try i didn't you know i didn't know exactly what he'd do you try to guess we we didn't change a whole lot of what we do i did think i mean he did a great job they were up on us in the second half then our athleticism finally took over and our depth and we kind of broke the thing open in the second half i did i i'm cool with his son richard i'd never met rick before and at this deal everything's different like when we get to the arena they got to sanitize everything and so we couldn't even get to the locker room so both austin and ion are shooting on one court they got one in we got the other they got a curtain between but i saw rick over there i went over and talked to him for like 15 minutes kind of before we could get to our locker rooms he was great his son richard gave me his number i've known richard for a while he's been we and have been cool so i called him after we played and just kind of tried to pick his brain for a little bit he was great so I uh yeah, he was good.

Speaker 1 And I saw, I saw from that comment that he

Speaker 1 told you that the first game is always the toughest, which I thought was very interesting because you have the Iona game.

Speaker 1 You guys are down in the second half, like you mentioned, and then the next game against Maryland,

Speaker 1 everything clicked and you guys could have beaten the Nets on

Speaker 1 Monday night or Sunday night, whenever the game was.

Speaker 1 That's how hot you guys were from three. But it was interesting because I never really thought about that.

Speaker 1 You think that the first game is always the easiest, but I could see how jitters and not feeling the flow of the tournament could definitely get in teams' ways when they're playing in the first round.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he brought up one of his Kentucky teams, I guess, had the biggest, and you guys, knowing you guys a little bit, you probably know this one.

Speaker 11 They had the biggest point spread in the history of the NCAA tournament. He said they were 36-point favorites against San Jose State, and it was a one-point game at the half.

Speaker 11 So, and then he did tell me they ended up covering the spread in the second half, which is crazy. So, that second half must have been nuts.
But so, no, he told me that. I told our players that, too.

Speaker 11 I was like, listen,

Speaker 11 we're too good of an offensive team. It's going to flow.
And sure enough, it did. So, I mean, maybe I'll just keep telling them, like, we're going to have a great offensive game.

Speaker 11 And then you just speak it into existence or something.

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How much do you hate mid-range jumpers? Like, do you, will you pull a guy out of a game if he takes one?

Speaker 11 No, but I,

Speaker 11 I mean, if he takes too many, I'll, I mean

Speaker 11 look I I don't even say I hate them. It's just all about the efficiency.
Like, I mean, if you know if you're shooting 60% on them, like go ahead and take them. That's 1.2.

Speaker 11 Like we're going to win most of our games doing that. But the problem is most of the guys are shooting like in the 30% and 40%, and that's an awful shot at those percentages.
So it's more of a

Speaker 11 reprogramming them from the time they get in, you know, from their high school, junior college, whatever, where they took way more of them to, you know, and we let them take them.

Speaker 11 We just devalue them. We only give you one point for them in practice.
Yeah. Like kind of like the scoring system you talked about.

Speaker 11 So and then so if you take them and you're losing because you're taking these and we got three pointers and four pointers and you're taking one pointers. And so we're,

Speaker 11 we kind of devalue it that way. And then we take the, you know, but we don't tell them they can't shoot them.
We just devalue them.

Speaker 11 And then, you know, after a few months of stats, we start to show the guys like, you know, you're shooting 35%. Well, that's 0.7 points per possession.

Speaker 11 We're not winning any games if that's what we get coming down. So maybe you want to quit shooting them.

Speaker 11 You know, you think that's your shot and you're making one out of three, but that's a terrible percentage. So it's more of getting them to believe it the same way I get them rather than just saying,

Speaker 11 you know, maybe it's the new school parenting, you know, back in the old school. You just do it because I'm.
I'm your dad. Now, now it's, you got to explain everything.
You know, I got three kids.

Speaker 1 You got why, why, why?

Speaker 1 Right. So, all right.

Speaker 11 You got to explain it all. You got to convince them to get to your side.

Speaker 1 I like that. So explain it.
So for people who don't know, the practice court was what you're referring to. It has two pointers right at the rim.
One pointers is every single mid-range.

Speaker 1 And then three pointers and four pointers. Is that right? Yeah.

Speaker 11 We put a four-point line down. It's probably about three feet beyond the MBA line.
It's, and we don't really.

Speaker 11 encourage a ton of four-point shooting because, but we put it down more for spacing, but we do like guys to have that range because then they can really spread the floor out but yeah so we want at the rims we want in in the order we want free throws at the rim twos and then kick out threes so you get free throws by driving the ball getting fouled you know the at the rim twos

Speaker 11 everything from an at the rim two all the way out to a three we just give 1.4 so even like a lane shot even if it's not technically a mid-range but it's it's a we call them non at the rims so yeah we just we're trying that's what we're trying to get that's your math ground come math background coming into play because you were a you were a math teacher right so

Speaker 5 that's where you learned all these fancy statistics like three is worth more than two wow which is worth more than one

Speaker 1 crazy figure

Speaker 1 figure that out right yeah i could have passed your math class Definitely.

Speaker 11 You definitely could have. We would have helped you through it.
I mean, depending on how well you shot it.

Speaker 6 I mean, you know, like

Speaker 1 we got you through. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I also saw that you were essentially like a corner store in your high school. You were selling flaming Cheetos, Capri Songs.

Speaker 11 Who did all your research for you guys?

Speaker 1 Somebody did a lot of research for you guys.

Speaker 5 She cheese on the internet. Actually, Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is a big resource for this podcast.

Speaker 5 But I saw that you outsold the corner store, the local corner store, so much so that the other teachers were mad because their students were late to come to class because they were all lining up to give you money because you were raising money for the basketball team on that.

Speaker 5 How many bags of flaming hot Cheetos would you go through in a week?

Speaker 11 Oh, shoot. Listen, I bought a minivan and took all the seats out of it so that I could fill it up at Sam's every Sunday.
Every Sunday I go to Sam's, and I swear I had usually three boxes of 50.

Speaker 11 So it's that 150 a day. So multiply by five, what's that giving you? About 750 bags of hot Cheetos a week? That's about what we were going through.

Speaker 5 That's some volume.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 5 So what did you do when the other teachers were like, hey, this math teacher is making every student tardy, and they're all showing up to class with bright orange dust.

Speaker 5 Our scantrons are inoperable because they've got bright orange dust all over them.

Speaker 11 It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 11 The warning bell, at the warning bell, you got to shut it down. So you got to hurry it up.
You got four minutes to get in, get your stuff, get out.

Speaker 11 Or, you know, you sell before school, lunchtime, whatever.

Speaker 11 We had a whole system. You'd have to have been in there.

Speaker 11 You guys would have enjoyed it.

Speaker 11 You'd have definitely been down in my classroom frequently during the days. But yeah, when I got to Romulus, I think I remember there was like $78 in the fundraising account.

Speaker 11 When I left, they had like over 20 grand. And we had the shooting machines, they call them guns.
Yep. They had like about six grand each.
We had like six of those. So we just,

Speaker 11 we raised a little bit of money. That wasn't the only way we raised it.
We raised money a lot of different ways. But yeah,

Speaker 11 that was eight years ago. I was still, we won the state championship in Michigan in 2013.
So it hasn't been that long that I was still filling up the van with Sam's Club stuff.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 So when you went to Buffalo, obviously you coached with bobby hurley how crazy are the hurley brothers

Speaker 11 listen

Speaker 11 i i love danny by but i just talked to danny because they obviously played maryland before we did he uh gave me his two cents i i got to know danny probably better than i did bobby and then bobby got the job and then obviously working for bobby for two years we got pretty close and they look

Speaker 11 they're different but they're they're kind of the same they both got a uh

Speaker 11 I mean, they both got a definite streak to them where, like, you know, you don't want to get them too pissed off.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 11 But I figured out where, I mean, Bobby's a really good player, but he's like ultra intense, you know, like on like 90, 95% of the time, probably more than that. Like, he's just chilled.

Speaker 11 Like, if you had him on the podcast, he'd be great. Like, he's this normal dude, laid back.
But shoot, you lose two in a row or

Speaker 11 you lose a recruit that you were supposed to get.

Speaker 11 They got, they got, they got a little bit different side to him. But, I mean, just kind of got a deal.

Speaker 11 and i say them like i'd never worked for danny so right me and danny are cool we still talk but i worked for bobby i i loved working for him he was great almost to the point though it was almost entertaining at times but he and he knew it you'd kind of like i'd be nuts and he'd just kind of laugh and he'd kind of know it but like yeah shoot i i remember a few practices the guy the players found out he was a little nuts too But their dad's a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I love Danny.

Speaker 1 I love watching, like, one of my favorite things to do is watch uh danny on the sidelines just waiting for the technical that's going to happen pretty much every game because he just wears and again it goes back to what we were saying about the end of the sec championship game as fans we consider ourselves pretty like regular average joe fans that's the kind of stuff we want to see we want to see passion we want to see coaches getting mad that's the fun stuff coaches that are just kind of sitting there and and not engaged with their team that doesn't do anything for me oh no those both of those are super engaged I mean they're so Bobby's first year at Buffalo, I think he got eight teams.

Speaker 11 So I don't know if that led the country. It had to be pretty close.

Speaker 11 It's like one a tee every four games. So I

Speaker 11 never had to coach a game. He never got thrown out.
He never got two in a game.

Speaker 11 Now then he went to Arizona State and he got remember he got tossed against the I think was that the first Arizona game they played?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
First home.

Speaker 11 He was kind of inciting the crowd, getting him fired up as he's heading out the tunnel. So that never happened at Buffalo.
We kept him in every game.

Speaker 11 He just, you know, you'd get the first team and then we

Speaker 11 make sure he stuck around for the rest of the game. I never had to coach a game until I actually got the head job.
But no, I mean, they're both super passionate, love what they do.

Speaker 11 You know, and shoot, I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't for those guys. I mean, they gave me my start in a business.
So

Speaker 11 I'll always be indebted to both those brothers.

Speaker 5 I've always wondered how that works on a college basketball sideline because you see, In college football, a lot of times a coach will have their get-back guy, the guy who's his only job is to like grab the back of the guy's belt and keep him on the sideline.

Speaker 5 In college basketball, you see a coach sometimes running out towards the scorer's table, running out towards the officials, but it's more of like all the assistants corral him and they like they surround him and start pushing him back.

Speaker 5 What would you say to him to get to get him to like, you know, call off the dogs for a second? We need you back on the bench. How would you talk him down?

Speaker 11 I wouldn't, during the game, you just say, hey, Bob, we need you. Like, like, come on, man.
Like, we can't get tossed here. Like, you know, but he's smart enough not to,

Speaker 11 you know, go, once you get the first team, you know, you can't get tossed. Like, so you got it, you can't go too much overboard.
Now, I think he got really emotional in the Arizona game down there.

Speaker 11 He was pretty good. I mean, I did sit down in his office once and try to tell him,

Speaker 11 like, Bob, like a lot of these refs are my age. Like, I grew up, I mean, you know, I don't know if idolize is the right word.

Speaker 11 I mean, I'm working for the guy now, so I don't know that I use that word, but like, I grew up watching you play and like really, you know, looked up to you.

Speaker 11 Like, maybe if you chopped it it up with these refs before the game, like they'd probably think the same way about you as me. Like, maybe we'll get a couple calls, you know?

Speaker 11 Like, Bobby Early's pretty cool. So I think you tried that until the first call went wrong.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 that's not for me. I don't want to be nice to him.

Speaker 5 I've also liked your suits this year because a lot of coaches have really kind of,

Speaker 5 they've tampered it down a little bit. They got permission to wear sweats and now they're like wearing bathrobes and stuff out there.

Speaker 5 Your plaid coats, I think, are the best in college basketball right now. Like a nice loud plaid.
You don't see it that much anymore. It kind of looks like a 1980s, almost like a, what's his name?

Speaker 1 Herb, Herb

Speaker 1 Brooks.

Speaker 5 Herb Brooks type suit.

Speaker 5 How many plaid jackets do you have in store? Are you going to break one out for this tournament?

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 I brought seven of them along, so we got enough for all the games. Big cat, did he just say I dress like I'm in the 80s? Did I read that wrong?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he did.

Speaker 5 No, it did. It's actually a high compliment for me.

Speaker 5 oh you're an 80s you're an 80s guy i just i love the plaid jackets i don't think no one wears them anymore i what i meant by that is like back in the 80s that's what the coaches wore and i thought that is 1980s coaches in in both the nfl and in basketball i think that's the pinnacle of fashion yeah so it would i didn't do it at buffalo i just wore the suits when i got to alabama if you guys go back Remember Wimp Sanderson?

Speaker 11 They used to call it the plaid palace.

Speaker 11 So I borrowed one of Wimp suits. You'd probably find the picture for the first like of a tie-tip-off deal, whatever they call it, like the Midnight Madness, but it's not midnight anymore.

Speaker 11 So I borrowed one of his, and then I was like, you know what?

Speaker 11 Back when I was a high school coaching in Buffalo, I didn't get the tailored suits. You buy them off the rack.
Now I get paid a little bit more money.

Speaker 11 And so I got a tailored guy, started making meet a few play at sport coaches, and we've rocked it. So I was with the

Speaker 11 bathrobes and the other stuff they're wearing for the first half of the season. It's ironic, you call it bathrobes.

Speaker 11 Some of them are a little oversized, right? It's like some of them need to get their polos fitted a little tighter, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah. Is there anyone in particular you're thinking of when you say that?

Speaker 11 Come on, I'm a coach. I mean, I'm not going to call out the other.
I mean, you at least told me you're two guys in the SEC, so I wouldn't say anything stupid about them.

Speaker 11 And you've already referenced a couple of my foot-and-mouth comments. So I'm not, you're not going to, you know, you're not going to get me into another one here.

Speaker 1 Your Coach K thing was not foot-and-mouth, by the way. That we said the same thing, and everyone thought it was great so you don't that doesn't count yeah it doesn't count you're just new school

Speaker 11 i'm with fun yeah new schools i did look i wanted the season to go i liked my team we needed to play a season so yeah right hold on let's learn that let's not talk about shutting the season down we need the season to go on yeah that was part of the other reason i went i went to the sport coach too i'm so ready for everything to get back to normal I like we lost a game and it was like a great excuse.

Speaker 11 I'm like, that's it. I'm going back to the sport coach.
Let's get back to normal as soon as we can get back to normal.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 it would make sense that a coach that's confident that they have a good team would want to continue to play as many games as possible, which is why you made that comment about what Coach K said about his team, which may or may not have fit in that same category as Alabama's team.

Speaker 5 Wink, wink.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 5 With Syracuse, then Jim Boeheim kind of had Coach K's back because I think they're best friends. And he actually, he gave you a compliment I don't think that he intended to give you.

Speaker 5 He was like, we've got this young guy out here running off at the mouth. He called you young.

Speaker 11 Well, I'm a little younger than he is. Yeah,

Speaker 11 I was actually.

Speaker 11 Look, so Bayon, so I know Bayon enough. I mean, I was in Buffalo, he's in Syracuse, so we did a golf outing together.
Like, we like, and again, I get what he was doing.

Speaker 1 Like, I get it.

Speaker 11 I mean, those guys are buddies. I think they coached in the Olympic team together.
And he was maybe, and I look, and I talked to Kay about it too.

Speaker 11 So, I'm, I'm, you know, Bobby worked for Kay, so we had that whole thing going on. But I did see the Bayonne comment.

Speaker 11 Look, I'll say this about Bayheim. We played them my second to last year at Buffalo.
We were up with three minutes to go in the game and probably should have beat him, ended up losing a tight one.

Speaker 11 He ended up rescheduling us the next year, which he didn't have to do. And we went in there and beat him.
So I give him some credit. Everybody used to say he played the cupcake schedule.

Speaker 11 He scheduled us after we almost beat him. Then we did go in there and beat him.
So I'm one and one against him now. So we're

Speaker 11 all right. He's in the sweet 16.
He's pulling. He's doing like Jim Behind things, right? Like

Speaker 11 weekend of the tournament, everybody said he shouldn't be in. They somehow gets in, and next thing you know, he's in the Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 It's true. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he does it all the time. Yeah.
All right. My last question, and this has been great.
What is the key to winning in March? I saw a quote.

Speaker 1 I want you to just repeat it, but tell me what the key to winning in March is.

Speaker 11 I mean, you want the...

Speaker 1 the dumb quote or like you got to make more you know no points healer no i think you said get your butt to the free throw line and quit avoiding contact i just like that oh listen Yeah.

Speaker 11 So we're, I don't know if that was the question, but that was an answer to some question. Like, like, we were not getting to the free throw line.

Speaker 11 I mean, you look, you go back, your guy Moss, when we played at Arkansas.

Speaker 1 And I, uh,

Speaker 11 you guys big on the shirt, like, the tipping the shirt off after that.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, love it.

Speaker 1 I don't matter what. I love it.
I don't think you like it. I sense some disdain, but I love it.

Speaker 11 I didn't say that. I'm just wondering, like, I wanted your take on it.
Like, I can ask questions too. like, you know, like,

Speaker 11 but anyways,

Speaker 11 when we lost to them at their place,

Speaker 11 it was like the biggest free throw discrepancy in the last 10 years of the SEC. It was like 43 to 8, I believe, at the free throw line.

Speaker 11 So everybody wanted to talk about how much we got screwed, like, you know, 35 more free throws than us. And maybe we did.
Who knows? But my thing to our team was.

Speaker 11 Like, we're obviously not doing enough to get to the free throw line. Like, we're not driving it hard enough.
We're avoiding contact. Like, that's soft.
It's like, you know, like football guy, right?

Speaker 11 Like, you shouldn't be avoiding contact. Like, drive the ball, get fouled, go to the free throw line, make it.
So, we've been trying to get to the free throw line a lot more.

Speaker 11 When you're hitting threes, like we did last game, you might fall in love with the three a little better. Maybe don't get to the free throw line as much.

Speaker 11 But I do think, like, free throws at the rim twos, kick out threes. That's what we're trying to get.
Well, if you don't get fouled, you can't shoot a free throw. Yeah.

Speaker 11 And if you avoid contact, if you avoid contact, you're not going to get fouled. So you got to get to the free throw line.

Speaker 1 It's a big thing that drives me nuts at the end of games when teams have a last possession. I'm always like,

Speaker 1 how do you dribble around and then take a fadeaway three when

Speaker 1 if you go to the rack, there's a good chance they're going to call a whistle if there's any contact there at the end of the game. So like, go make something happen.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm with you. You got to put some pressure on the defense and the referees both in those situations.
So I forgot I made that question. I don't know what the question was, but I did say that.

Speaker 11 And that's my thought behind that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like it.
It was actually in March. Yeah, it was actually at Buffalo.
You said, quit avoiding contact. Get your butt to the free throw line.
Soft teams can't win in March. There you go.

Speaker 1 I didn't remember that.

Speaker 11 That was a Buffalo quote. I had a few quotes at Buffalo that,

Speaker 11 yeah, anyways.

Speaker 1 It's a good quote. It's a good quote.
Well, this has been awesome. Good luck on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Again, we're not. Like, I'm rooting for, well, you know what? You're behind Arkansas now because you count as a Big Ten team.
You already said that that counts. So there's enough Big Ten teams.

Speaker 1 We're going to to be a big team. Yeah.
I mean, the Big Ten in the

Speaker 11 they ended up with one team in the Sweet 16 after nine teams in the

Speaker 1 two. You guys count.
You guys count.

Speaker 1 Can I ask you something then, Coach? Why don't we talk about the Big 12? Everyone talks about how great the Big 12 was. Big 12 only has one team left, too.

Speaker 11 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 11 The Pac-12 was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I would say Pac-12 was supposed to be down, and they got four.
Yeah. UCLA should count as a big 10 team, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Who's the other Big Ten team? What are we saying?

Speaker 5 UCLA should count as a a big 10 team. I mean, Mick Cronin, Cincinnati guy, he's from the state of Ohio.
And that's Big Ten style. Yes, definitely.
They're the Big Ten of Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 11 More so than USC.

Speaker 11 Mick Cronin's teams are always hard-nosed, tough. We get to play against them.
I mean,

Speaker 11 I'm not.

Speaker 11 Shoot, I played against him when he's at Cincinnati. I was at Buffalo.
It wasn't fun either. But I,

Speaker 11 no, I look, and every, I think this year was harder. Because there wasn't as many nine conference games with all the COVID stuff.

Speaker 11 So everybody didn't get to see how how good everybody, you know, like in the Pac-12 started, I think, later than most leagues. So maybe they were better than everybody thought all year.

Speaker 11 They got four teams in the Sweet 16. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's true.

Speaker 1 Well, thanks so much, Coach. Good luck on Sunday.
Either way, like we just said, UCLA versus Alabama, no matter what, the Big Ten is going to win.

Speaker 1 So it will, you know, it'll be a great game.

Speaker 11 I like it how you guys just adopt teams. It's easy adoption.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 They got some kind of connection.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Big 10 team.

Speaker 1 This weekend. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 5 Thanks, Coach. All right.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap it up. Fire Fest of the Week.
Hank,

Speaker 5 your Fire Fest, please.

Speaker 3 Our house was pretty serious. It's been

Speaker 3 a tough day, I guess, trying to deal with it. My emotions, everything that's going on.
But Chrissy Teigen deleted her Twitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 R.I.P. to a real one.
Fuck. It's too bad.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 5 Celebs.

Speaker 3 Basically, the reason I joined Twitter. Yeah, same.
It's given me life.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 So many times.

Speaker 5 Tweet after tweet.

Speaker 3 I printed some out. I've got some hung up in my apartment.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 You're Tayniac.

Speaker 3 And I just don't know what I'm going to do without her.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 that's hard.

Speaker 5 What was the breaking point for her?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think she had a bunch of old tweets that seemed like she was a pedophile.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people thought that she was like 500,000.

Speaker 3 Eating babies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That seemed

Speaker 1 like... Well, as soon as the internet decides that you're like part of a Hollywood

Speaker 1 baby-eating cult, it's probably a good time to be like, all right, you know what? I got enough money. I don't have to be on Twitter.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she used to live tweet. Well, I think it was, she lived, she used to live tweet toddlers and tiaras.
Ah. And then those out of context didn't look great.

Speaker 5 There's been a record number of people accused of eating babies this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a big year.

Speaker 5 It also makes, besides the Jonathan Swift modest proposal year, this has got to be like, we've set world records for accusing people of just

Speaker 5 snacking on infants.

Speaker 1 I also just, all the people who spend their entire time online trying to uncover big, big, like, pedophile rings and baby eating cults,

Speaker 1 I feel like they're they're eating babies.

Speaker 5 It's a strange accusation to make.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if you're like, hey, you're a baby eater. It's like, ah, you're a baby eater.
Dude, I've never thought about eating a baby.

Speaker 5 Jumping straight into baby eating. It's like, let's start with just smelling babies.
Right. You're a baby smeller.

Speaker 1 It methinks the lady Doth protest too much when you accuse others of eating babies online. I also have a good idea.
It would be hilarious if she was like that really.

Speaker 1 It would be hilarious. If Chrissy Teagan had any sense of the moment, she would have been like, I'm leaving Twitter for good to focus on my life's work, eating babies.

Speaker 5 She makes a cake, and it's just, you know, those extremely realistic cakes, just a baby slices into it.

Speaker 1 Like, this has just been too, it's been sidetracking what I'm really passionate about, and that is harvesting young children's blood.

Speaker 5 Sticking a straw into a baby like a Capri son.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jesus.

Speaker 3 I also have a gas leak in my apartment.

Speaker 1 So, oh,

Speaker 1 from your ass?

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 5 That's tough, Hank. Like, seriously, you're.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I called it in this morning. I waited all morning.
It didn't show up before.

Speaker 1 You called it in?

Speaker 3 Well, I called my daughter.

Speaker 1 Darren was like,

Speaker 3 you guys check out if my apartment's going to blow up. They didn't show up before I left.
I think they're hopefully going to have gone by the time I get home.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 3 So maybe I'll blow up tonight.

Speaker 1 Who knows?

Speaker 3 If I do, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 That's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 5 I never blew up tonight after saying that.

Speaker 5 Hank, make sure to put the podcast out before you get home.

Speaker 1 Please. Is he up yet? No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Is that it? Yep.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I would imagine, hold on, one last thing on Hank blowing up. Imagine

Speaker 1 Hank blows up and there's just a big rubble, and then they find him because Normie's dick is sticking out of the rubble, and then they get them both, and they both survive.

Speaker 5 That'd be sweet. That'd be awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest of the Week is: I learned more about my elevator fiasco, and it's a lot worse than I initially thought. So they're going to be replacing it.

Speaker 5 I think I said they were going to be replacing it for the next couple days. Yeah, it takes a while.
Apparently, it could take months to replace my elevator, which is complete bullshit.

Speaker 5 Now I'm like anti-elevator entirely. I'd like to see more apartment complexes that have.
What about escalators? Why don't we have escalators instead of staircases in apartment buildings?

Speaker 5 That to me seems like a much more functional alternative.

Speaker 1 That takes up a lot of space.

Speaker 5 Same amount as the stairs. I've got stairs.
No. No.
Escalators and stairs? No. They're about the same size.

Speaker 6 Think about a shaft, like an up-and-down.

Speaker 5 No, I'm talking about stairs. Escalators.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah.
But do you know, like, visualize an escalator? Okay. And now visualize this, like, it's a staircase that winds around and goes up.

Speaker 1 That takes up far less space than an escalator that has to go straight up.

Speaker 5 No, like in movie theaters, you go up and then you get on the next one and it goes up and then you're...

Speaker 1 That takes up way more space than a single shaft

Speaker 1 stairs. And no, I'm saying.
Are we having the same conversation?

Speaker 5 No, no, I'm saying a single shaft of stairs. I don't know if your stairs, do you live in like at the top of a castle where

Speaker 5 you have long hair is in a spiral?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Most staircases have, like, you go up like six steps and you turn the corner, you go up six steps.

Speaker 5 That's what I want, except I want the stairs to move.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that would take up way too much space.

Speaker 5 I don't know. But the bottom line is my

Speaker 5 escalating situation is going to be awful for the next couple months. Am I allowed to just like tell my landlord that I'm not moving out? Just don't pay your rent.

Speaker 5 Like I'm not paying rent and I'm not moving out. I don't want to move out on stairs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just don't pay your rent.

Speaker 5 All right. We're going on a rent strike, fellas.
There we go. Until Hank's gas leak gets fixed.

Speaker 1 Or he blows up.

Speaker 5 Or he blows up. And until...

Speaker 1 Technically, that would fix it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, you know, my family has a bad history with elevators. My great-grandfather, R.I.P., had an elevator land on his head, died.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's scary. Like, it runs in my family.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right, my Fire Fest is, it just, sweatshirt weather's over, and it's fucking snuck up on me. Was not ready for that.

Speaker 3 You can still do sweatshirts and shorts.

Speaker 1 No, it's going to be 90 tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's turning 90 tomorrow. I know 80.
Sorry. It's going to be 80 tomorrow.
80 tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And I have to to wear a t-shirt, and I am not in t-shirt shape. That's crazy.
Yeah. See? It came too fast.
I thought I would have all of April to maybe lose a few pounds. Turns out I don't.

Speaker 1 Also, the Suez Canal shit is funny. It's very funny.
That's the ultimate fire fest.

Speaker 5 Imagine being the captain of that ship right now. Like, you've got to be like, this is an all-time funny.

Speaker 1 I still don't know how they just don't push it.

Speaker 1 It's in water.

Speaker 5 So I have a couple ideas on how to fix it.

Speaker 5 One would be you just like, like cowboys, you wrangle up a bunch of whales that are in the ocean and then you steer all the whales into the canal and just make all the whales run into the ship and get like 20 whales hitting the ship at once to dislodge it.

Speaker 5 I feel like that's a foolproof plan. Eventually, they're just going to have to blow it up.
Eventually, someone's just going to launch a missile at it.

Speaker 1 You have to take it apart piece by piece.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, you think it's shutting down like 10% of the world's seafaring trade right now. Yeah.

Speaker 5 They're going to drop a bomb on it if it's not fixed within a week. That's my prediction.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it's not out already. It's crazy.
Billy, I'm just...

Speaker 5 It's actually like terrible. Yeah.
Especially for vaccine distribution to Southeast Asia.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn.

Speaker 5 Billy, you were getting pretty woke on it earlier. I like, if you wanted to fuck up oil prices and all sorts of stuff, you'd pull a little prank like that.
A prank? Yeah. Just a prank?

Speaker 1 Little thing. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I thought

Speaker 1 it was just going to be fixed. I thought it was one of those funny things like, ha ha, boat got stuck.
Everyone tweets the same Austin Powers GIF. And then 24 hours later, like, ah, boat's free.

Speaker 1 I just think it's good to go.

Speaker 5 I just think it's interesting that this hasn't happened like multiple times every single day. Right.
Like a boat going sideways.

Speaker 5 Feels like our one flaw in designing this very important canal is that if a boat steers to the left,

Speaker 5 then vaccines don't reach India for three months. Yeah, just make it bigger.

Speaker 1 Can't we just make that shit bigger?

Speaker 5 Make it bigger. Make it deeper.

Speaker 1 Oh, what if they pour more water into it, and then that lifts the boat up?

Speaker 5 You float it. And it gets, yeah, it gets further up.
Just leave a a garden hose running, yeah. Just everybody in Egypt go to the Suez Canal and take a piss in it.

Speaker 1 Sit and wait, and hope it can be towed. I'm reading an article about it now.

Speaker 5 It's called the Sue, the type of cargo ship it is, the Suez Max. So it's the largest boat.

Speaker 1 Empire State Building is how big it is. Yeah.
It's crazy. That's a pretty big canal.
Huge boat.

Speaker 1 Pilly?

Speaker 5 I've had a pretty good week.

Speaker 1 I have a little bit of an allergy cough, but besides that,

Speaker 1 allergies?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nothing else? I got antibodies. That's true.
Sounds like you're really prepared for your firefighters.

Speaker 5 Antibodies. Crew, what's up? I was trying to think about it, but your car smells.
That's your firefight. Yeah, my car does smell.
Really drove me in today in his car.

Speaker 5 I still can't really smell out my nose.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's also. Yeah.
But that's the deviated septum. Buckled.
Buckled septum. Did you see Jose Conseiko's shoulder?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that whole thing, it's just getting weird.

Speaker 1 It's almost like he took a dive.

Speaker 5 It's almost no, it's not like.

Speaker 1 It's just. Now I have to fight again.
Oh, you want to fight Jose again? No, not him.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to fight him.

Speaker 1 Who are you going to fight?

Speaker 5 Because he, what, he's got two reconstructed shoulders by the way.

Speaker 1 You should fight him again and just kill him.

Speaker 1 Make him say that, like, don't give him any money unless he wins. Fight him again.
Don't even put it as the main event. Put it in the middle of the card.

Speaker 5 He's just, he's not fit to fight at all.

Speaker 1 Well, you beat him up so bad. No, like, he was for that.

Speaker 5 I mean, you fucked him up. And now I have these legal hands that aren't even as good.

Speaker 1 That's why you're going to

Speaker 1 get me in trouble.

Speaker 5 Billy's probably going to go to jail and sit in the electric chair because he gets into a fight. Yeah.
You think that your life is like, in your head, you're Nicholas Cage from Con Air. Oh, 100%.

Speaker 5 Where it's like you're going to defend a woman's honor in a bar fight and then be wrongfully put in jail for like 10 years and then have to take over a plane and land it in Las Vegas.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because of a professional boxing match I did when I was 21. Yeah, against Jose Kinseko who took a dive.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, you want to end it with a fire fest?

Speaker 7 Yeah, so obviously we came back from Chicago earlier this week. We got a bunch of gear.
PFT was generous enough to make this his March gear and the orange sweatshirts for Team Orange.

Speaker 7 And I tried stuffing them all in my luggage and my zipper broke.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's tough too.

Speaker 6 I got a bag if you need one.

Speaker 1 That's brutal. Yeah.
That is brutal.

Speaker 5 So you're going to have to travel again with a broken zipper.

Speaker 7 Yeah, or go get a new one tomorrow. We'll see.

Speaker 1 Anything good happened this week? Yeah. Like what?

Speaker 7 Syracuse made the Sweet 16. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 7 Got to interview buddy Beheim. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 8 Anything else?

Speaker 5 How are you feeling just about just your health? Traveling. Is your health cool?

Speaker 1 With COVID pandemic? Stop.

Speaker 6 Okay, all right. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 30.
8. 18.
18. 99.
32.

Speaker 5 8 is due.

Speaker 5 Certain fish eggs can travel through ducks' digestive systems, and that is how fish get to different ponds that are isolated. Like in a golf course.
Love you guys.

Speaker 5 I don't know what I'm to say, I'm changing way.

Speaker 5 Today's another day to fight.

Speaker 5 Shy it away.

Speaker 5 You know, I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 5 Shy it away.

Speaker 5 You know, I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 5 Take

Speaker 5 on

Speaker 5 me,

Speaker 5 Take

Speaker 5 me

Speaker 5 on.

Speaker 5 I'll be

Speaker 5 gone.

Speaker 5 Needless to say,

Speaker 5 I won't say it.

Speaker 5 But please turn it away.

Speaker 5 Learning, learning that life is okay.

Speaker 5 Say after me.

Speaker 5 Life's not better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 5 Say up to me.

Speaker 5 Life's not better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 5 Say

Speaker 5 come.

Speaker 5 I'll be

Speaker 5 gone

Speaker 5 in a day of peace.

Speaker 5 Things that you say,

Speaker 5 yeah, you did a lot of

Speaker 5 just to play my worries away.

Speaker 5 You are things I've got to remember. You shine away.

Speaker 5 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 5 You shine away.

Speaker 5 I'll be careful for you anyway.

Speaker 5 Take on

Speaker 5 me.

Speaker 5 Take

Speaker 5 me

Speaker 5 on.

Speaker 5 I'll be

Speaker 5 gone

Speaker 5 in a day.

Speaker 5 I'll be

Speaker 5 strong

Speaker 5 in a day

Speaker 5 of me.