Disc Golfer Brodie Smith, Conference Tourney Week And Russel Wilson To The Bears?

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We have Firefest the week. And we also have Seamhead Express where there's enough baseball news that we combine it all into one Seamhead Express segment.
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Today is Fri-Yay, March 12th. PFT, I want to do two intros just in case.
The first one is, today is Friday, March 12th. Russell Wilson is officially a Chicago Bear.
And then in my non-dream scenario, today is Friday, March 12th. And the Duke Blue Devils have been eliminated.
Either way, it works out well for you. Well, no, the Duke Blue Devils have not been eliminated.
They did the right thing. They're looking out for the health of everybody else.
I kind of had to pull a 180 on Coach K today. I think I love him now.
I think you at least have to respect Coach K for being one step ahead of our brains that try to simulate what Coach K will do. I the last that we got inside his own head we're like he's just going to write a book about how well he managed this covid year and then that's going to be his like anointing himself as like this was actually a successful year because we got through it and the health was the first thing that we had to look after like like uh andrew cuomo like writing a book in the middle of it congratulating I thought that's what Coach K would do, but he's one step ahead.
They have bowed out gracefully after winning their opening round game, the ACC tournament. And I guess this doesn't, this means that the streak is still intact, right? Because who knows? Maybe Duke would have gone on to win the ACC tournament.
It's actually a brilliant move on Coach K's part. Well, here's what Coach K gets to do.
In a year that was not great for Duke, to put it mildly, wasn't Duke's year, they get to finish winning their last game of the season. They actually won two games in the ACC tournament.
They want only one team usually gets to finish the season winning their last game of the year. Duke gets to claim that this year, that they won their last game of their season.
They were hot. They were just getting hot.
They were just finding their groove. And then COVID, who maybe it was his grandson who got it, which that's convenient.
But guess what? I'm a COVID survivor, so I'm not going to make light of COVID. I can say that as a COVID survivor.
I can say maybe it was his grandson. And maybe this was a long con by Coach K to basically bow out of the season before the selection committee could not select Duke next Sunday or this Sunday.
I'm a COVID survivor, so I can say that. But that might have happened.
But I'm also not going to say it because I respect COVID too much. Yeah.
and also HIPAA laws. You don't want to pull an Adam Schefter.

But if that were the case, you would have to acknowledge the fact

that Coach K is a mastermind for inserting that into the storyline.

Who knows if the person who actually tested positive for COVID

actually has COVID.

I wouldn't put it past Coach K to just be like,

we need one of you walk-ons out there,

any one of you guys to take one for the team

and just tell me that you have it.

Just somebody please tell me that you have it or that you are a close contact with somebody that has it. Or just encourage them to go party.
That way, yeah. Maybe he sent somebody on the team to go infiltrate a frat party.
Who knows? Who knows? But at any rate, hats off to Coach K. You did it.
You outfoxed the foxes, and I have no choice but to respect you on this one. Do you think that if we could get Coach K's cell phone right now

or maybe one of his assistants, maybe John Shires or his computer,

the first Google result would be how to get a positive COVID test

in Greensboro, North Carolina?

Yeah, probably.

Or, yeah, or he just bought like a series of Sharpies and just went

mark like writing out results for fake tests like he just bought a bunch of pregnancy tests and then wrote COVID positive on one of them and then showed it to the ACC officials they're like sorry sorry guys we got a balance we got a balance we got one I wouldn't put it past coach K for him to go to the hospital himself for the next, like, four weeks just to stave off these jokes. Like, Coach K is – he'll do anything.
He's Frank Underwood of the college basketball world. He will do anything to make sure that the message is not, hey, Duke wasn't going to make the tournament.
Let's all not, you know, forget that they weren't going to make the tournament. Hey, let's talk a little bit more about the fact they weren't going to make the tournament.
Let's all forget that they weren't going to make the tournament.

Hey, let's talk a little bit more about the fact

they weren't going to make the tournament.

Nope.

We have to respect COVID, which I do as a COVID survivor,

and say I hope that Duke is healthy and its students first.

Well, we don't know that they wouldn't have made the tournament,

but that's what makes this so magical.

It's like Duke could have gone on this run.

They could have won the entire ACC tournament.

They could have cut down the nets.

And you know what? I think the last time that Coach K played in a full ACC tournament, that was run to its completion through no fault of his own. They did cut down the nets, right? 2019.
Did they win it, Jake? Jake? Virginia won it in 2019. Virginia won it.
Okay. But that's okay.
That's okay. We can just pretend.
Also, four teams cut down the nets. You have the NIT, the CBI, and the CIT winning.
That's true. Those teams do.
Good point, Jake. So Duke's just one of four teams that wins their last game.
And, like, there's no Ivy League this year, but usually Ivy League because they only play, you know, they used to do only one team gets to the tournament, regular season winner, so technically some of those teams could have won their last game of the season. But either way, it is always an accomplishment to say that you won the last game of your season, and Duke can say that.
It is – I forgot how chaotic conference tournament week is. It is overwhelming.
It's sensory overload. Like, I just – there are so many games on.
There's so much basketball overwhelming it's sensory overload like i just there are so many games on there's so much basketball it's absolute heaven and i don't want to keep going but this is actually we're taping this on thursday obviously and it's a year to the day of like when everything stopped and it's just crazy like just going back to last year and being like yeah we missed out on all this like i i'm out of practice you know what i mean like i it's like trying to run a mile if you haven't been on a treadmill in forever the the amount of sensory overload i have right now of college basketball i need like a weighted blanket and like a sound machine and a dark room i need a mike leach uh dark room to to make sure that my head doesn't get more concussed. Listen, this is everything is new again.
So you can look at it that way. Like, like you're going through anxiety because there's too much stimulus going on.
You're not you're not used to that. But you can look at it like I'm experiencing this again for the first time.
And Jake, I'm I'm pretty sure 2019 Duke won the ACC tournament. Did I just make that up out of my head?

Oh, I was thinking NCAA tournament.

Oh.

Oh. Oh.

Okay.

Oh.

Hmm.

Interesting.

It would make...

2019 ACC tournament, Duke champion.

Yeah, because Zion.

It was Zion, right?

Yeah, it was Zion.

Yeah.

Okay.

It was LeBron Lockwood's year.

And the CAC bet. Yeah.
Yeah. Right.
So, Jake, would you like to say anything to me? I'd like to apologize for answering the wrong question. All right.
You're suspended for a week in a $50,000 fine. Jake, would you like to talk at all about your boy, Jim Boeheim, and the Syracuse Orange? I love when Syracuse – you know, Northwestern is not good enough in basketball, but Syracuse obviously is a basketball school.
I think that's what we – when we had the Blue Blood debate like a month ago, Blue Bloods, there are six Blue Bloods, and then the next rung is basketball schools. Syracuse is a basketball school, and there's something about Syracuse when they lose a heartbreaking loss and you get all the big J's and all the check marks coming to Twitter bemoaning their Orangemen.
So, Jake, this is – you can speak for all of them. Speak for – let's rattle off some names real quick.
Ian Eagle, Marv Albert, Bob Costas, Mike Tirico. No big deal.
Pete Thamel. We've got Steve Golds.
I can name like a million. All business Pete.
Yes, all business Pete. Also, I'm not part of the blue checkmark crew yet.
True, true. Okay, so go ahead.
Give us your thoughts. You said that was such a good idea.
Not yet. As of this morning, Syracuse was the last team in.
I think it's a true 50-50 shot, and Syracuse fans are very used to this position. When it was my senior year, they were the very last team in.
I think it depends on how the bubble teams around them do, but the bubble's kind of breaking for them right now because you have Duke, who's out of consideration. You have Xavier, who took themselves out after a loss to Butler.
You have three Mountain West teams who are going to beat up on each other this weekend. So I think it really is 50-50, but gut says yes.
Do you think that maybe Coach K pulled his team to do a little favor to his buddy Jim Boeheim? Those guys are thick as thieves. They are good friends, but I don't think he would do that.

I also have a point of contention.

I don't like that Buddy Boeheim is 6'6".

That's way too tall for a Buddy.

I think he's too good for Buddy Boeheim.

I want Buddy Boeheim to be by far the worst player in North America.

He was amazing in this tournament, but he is such, he truly is like, I don't know, like 10-year-old basketball, the coach's son. He, whenever he hits one shot, he's like, I'm going to take the next six shots.
He just keeps shooting, knowing that like, what's going to happen? His dad's not going to bench him. You think his dad's going to kick him off the team? Like on and i love seeing that play out in like major college basketball yeah yeah jake so we were talking earlier what was your initial reaction to seeing that three going the uva the heartbreaking dagger i just said like oh no crap that stinks and i got over after 30 seconds but then you also said something very big J.
What? Oh, it was great for the sport. Yeah, it's a great question.

Any more? That stinks. And I got over after 30 seconds.
But then you also said something very big, Jay. What? Oh, it was great for the sport.
Yeah, it's great. Any March buzzer beater is great for the sport.
It's great for the sport. I love it.
You guys suffered a heartbreaking loss at the buzzer, but then 30 seconds later, you know what? Grow the game for the kids. Yeah, 100%.
Any buzzer beater viral shot is amazing. I love it.
That's as big J as it gets. Wisconsin hasn't played yet.
I assume they're going to beat Penn State, but that probably is a terrible assumption. Michigan State lost.
Michigan State lost, which was the rat line of the day. But I think they're safely in because they did beat three out of five top five teams.
served the three out of three three top five teams in like the last two or two and a half weeks of the season uh and my my Izzo take is looking better and better year after year but there is something weird going on this year where it is like the best teams historically all stink like across the board yeah so there's kind of strength in numbers on that if it was just Duke that had this type of a season it would be I feel like it would be more satisfying for us to pile on them but we've got these other

schools like Michigan State and Kentucky that are distracting us and UNC distracting the

concentration of our takes that should be concentrated on one school so uh it's kind of

unfortunate that we don't get to just pile on Coach K 100 this year yeah like Kentucky was

legitimately bad I think they finished the season 9 and 16. They were not good.
They had maybe one or two. They had that big win against Tennessee, and they had maybe one or two other games where you could say, oh, they beat someone decent.
But for the most part, they were just a really, really bad team. I also had a thought we need to have a an account that tweets out what the jerseys are before every single game because i made a bet today i bet baylor minus 20 it was a stupid bet it was a terrible bet they won by like four but i bet the bet because i was like you know what baylor's awesome in the say, oh, this line is way too high.
That means they'll probably win by 50. Turn on the game.
Kansas State's in their all blacks, and it's a completely different game than when they wear their candy-ass purple. So like that, I knew instantly I had lost that bet.
So I need there to be an account that basically says, here's what everyone's wearing today. Make your bets accordingly.
And I know that sounds stupid, but my retort would be, no, you're stupid if you think that uniform colors don't matter. The all blacks, when a team's wearing an all black uniform that doesn't always wear that all black, it's like a normal one.
That is absolutely boost. You see yourself in the locker room.
That's like a game that you have circled before the season starts season starts it's like that's the one where we're going to be murdered out in our all blacks and players definitely get hyped for that that's why i don't bet on baylor and i don't bet on oregon because i don't know i never know what uniforms they're going to show up in if they show up in like the highlighter if baylor shows up in the highlighter yellow i'll always be like damn i should have bet on them But then if I'm expecting the highlighter and they come out there wearing like white with forest green trim, I'm like, well, I'm fucked. Yeah.
And my other uniform take from the last few days is Vanderbilt on Wednesday was they were wearing uniforms that made them look like it was like practice uniforms. It was as simple as it could get.
I think teams should start wearing uniforms based on their records so if you're a really really bad team you should really you should actually be wearing your practice pennies you should you shouldn't even get to wear real uniforms and then when you start to get better you get to actually wear like the nice ones or the throwbacks so that way you can almost like you look at the you look at a game and instead of just seeing the records, you're like, oh, yeah, that team sucks. They're in shirts and skins.
Like Northwestern should just wear – they should have to be in skins against Minnesota last night. Minnesota should be in their practice pennies because that's how bad the game was.
And we should know when you turn it on to be like, turn this off because this game is so game is so bad don't watch it yeah or like when it's an extreme example of an alternate color like today arsenal they were blue oh and it took it took me like five minutes to figure out which team was arsenal into the footy match and i was like that's it that's too much especially if you're playing against a team that's wearing red i don't like that yes i agree i I don't like the alternate jerseys in soccer are fucking wild. When your home system or appliance breaks down, American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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PFT, you're an insider.

Uh-huh.

You fancy yourself one.

You do usually have good information.

Mm-hmm.

Tell me that Russ Wilson is going to be a bear.

Russell Wilson is going to be a Chicago bear, big cat.

Do you actually believe that, or are you just saying that to make me feel good?

I would never say anything to make you feel good.

I think that Russell Wilson is going to be a bear.

I think that – I don't know if that three-way trade that we discussed earlier this week is going to happen because the Texans are being real cagey, real cagey with Deshaun Watson. But I think that if we're looking at the teams that Russell Wilson would hypothetically want to be traded to, if he were hypothetically wanting a trade for himself, which he's not, I think that the Bears are far and away the most likely destination.
And it breaks my heart because I know that you mentioned earlier that Big Ben could have been a bear, and that is really what we should all be rooting for. Big Ben just being miserable in the cold weather.
Although it kind of doesn't feel right picturing Big Ben living in a city. He's not a very cosmopolitan guy.
Yeah. He's a guy that should be like out in the – he'd probably live in Wisconsin.
He'd live in Kenosha. Yeah.
Yeah, he'd commute down to Chicago every day. Although it would be very funny to see him like Big City Ben getting all dressed up to the nines going downtown the Loop.
But I do think that Russ Wilson is going to be a bear. If I were to put money on it, I would say yes, he will be a Bear.
Well, so the Big Ben thing, that was my fire fresh of the week. It is the saddest thing to see.
The Bears are in the mode, though, where any quarterback at all, they're just going to say they're in on. Like the Bears are in on Patrick Mahomes right now.
They've made a phone call. I've seen them in on Sam Darnold, Big Ben, Deshaun Watson.

Like everything that gets discussed, the Bears are pretending.

It's essentially, you know, very relatable to this time of year.

The Bears are opening up their Excel spreadsheet at their desk

so when their boss walks by they don't realize that they're actually just,

you know, watching games and gambling on games. The Bears are pretending to call every single quarterback out there so that they can say, well, at least we tried when they inevitably trot out Nick Foles next year and say, whoops, we didn't see that coming.
So, you know, the Big Ben news made me sad, but I also was like, there's no way that this was ever going to happen. The Russell Wilson, you just said said you would put money on it that's where this is all coming from because they took the odds off the board in Vegas of the Bears landing Russell Wilson and then they upped the Bears Super Bowl odds or less than them and that's where all this smoke is coming from and part of me thinks like Vegas always knows but I also I just, I can't fathom.
I can't let myself make that leap where like the bears have a, like an exceptional quarterback that doesn't make sense. It doesn't compute in my brain.
So I'm cautiously optimistic, but real, like deep down, if you ask me, I'd be like, there's a 0% chance Russell Wilson becomes a Bear. And if he does become a Bear, I'm just preparing you for this,

but he is definitely going to look shorter in the Bears uniform and helmet.

That is going to shrink him like two inches.

I'll tell you what's going to happen if he becomes a Bear.

Almost instantly, he's going to put out like a double album with Sierra,

and all he's going to care about is being a celebrity and not football, and he's going to instantly just lose all his football powers. I guarantee you.
That's what's going to happen. There's going to be a double.
He's going to put out an album. He's going to be singing on an album, and it's going to be like Russell Wilson wants to be a global star and football is like, you know, football, whatever.
Family is more important. It's time to start thinking about life after the game, Big Cap, because this game can only take you so far.
Yeah, instantly. You have to plan your future, and the second that Russell Wilson put the New York Jets on his hypothetical list of teams that he would want to be traded to, and the Bears, that should have been like a big-time red flag, like, okay, something does not really make sense here.
Because Russell Wilson had a pretty good football setup, I think most people would agree, in Seattle. You could have done a lot worse.
And then putting the Jets on that list, it's like, okay, something different's happening. Sierra definitely wants to start thinking about her career first.
She's sick of the natural beauty of the Pacific Northwest. She would like to see some buildings around her occasionally.
Yes. Did you see, by the way, speaking of the Texans, did you see Jack Easterby finally release a statement? About what? About everything that's going on.
About, like, did he do more stand-up, like people in Houston? No, he released a statement about Deshaun Watson and everything that's going on with the Texans. He said, I have learned to kiss the wave that throws me against the rock of ages.
Charles Spurgeon. Fuck yeah.
I love Jack Easterby. What a beast.
What a beast. Jack Easterby.
We should make those shirts. Jack Easterby.
And sell none of them. Hell yeah.
Have him just standing in front of a brick wall with a spotlight on him and a microphone. but he's like, I don't know, maybe part bat with blood dripping from his fangs, wings, talons.
And it's just Deshaun Watson in the background with like a piece of paper that says, please trade me. Booing him.
Yeah. So, I mean, credit to Jack Easterby.
I've been wondering what has been going through his mind for the last couple weeks. but it's good that you can always count him to step forward and issue like a a broad generic quote that doesn't really say anything yeah so uh so good for him i i still don't know what the texans are going to do i've become i've kind of become resigned to the fact that maybe they're not going to trade deshaun and deshaun's just not going to play this year i kind of respect the fact that they are just flat out saying we're not taking calls.
It's such a weird, bizarre thing to not even entertain the idea of the quarterback that clearly wants to be traded. And you can offer, I mean, you can get, it would be the biggest haul of any trade in NFL history, I would guess, right? Like you're getting a franchise quarterback, the guy who had arguably, like, I mean, you want to say Aaron Rodgers probably had the best year he won the MVP, but given their surrounding, he probably had the best year of any quarterback last year.
He's 26 years old or whatever it may be. You get him for the next 10 years, and he's going to be happy wherever he goes because he's just going to be out of Houston.
You could get like the Rams. If the Rams didn't trade for Matt Stafford, the Rams would have given up.
Like, you know how there's sometimes there'll be universities that will do 100-year leases? The Rams would have given up 100 years of first-round picks. Yeah.
Now, what do you think about the fact that Jack Easterby, obviously he's like a Rasputin guy, right? Big time. He's very much a con man.
But con men like that always have one person that they respect, one person that taught them everything they know, one person that has always loomed large as a father figure in their lives. That person for Jack Easterby, I think, is Bill Belichick.
So Bill Belichick could exert influence and do mind control shit on Jack Easterby, and he's probably the only person in the NFL that could convince him to change his mind and deal to Sean Jackson. And plus they've got Nick Cassero down there too, right? So it's like these are all former Bill Belichick guys that are in Houston.
Bill makes a couple phone calls, says the right activation words or whatever, convinces him to trade Deshaun to New England. I don't even know what trade capital or assets they would have to give up.
But I think if there's one person that can crack Jack Beasterby's iron will, it's Bill Belichick. It would be like the Patriots would trade a first round pick, a like a hundred Bibles and a renovation, a promise for Bill Belichick to renovate the team like chapel.
Yep. Oh yeah.
If he built a mega church, if agreed to finance a mega church with jack easterby's name on it uh in houston texas in like a suburb in katie texas and it's like 50 square feet bigger than joel austin's i guarantee you jack easterby makes that deal right now oh man what a this is by far the most fun offseason when it comes to quarterbacks in the NFL. We've already had the Big Ben back and forth, the Stafford trade, the Goff trade, the Carson Wentz trade.
And then still on top of all that, we have Deshaun Watson and Russ Wilson and Jameis Winston all looming. Yeah, Jameis is still out there.
Jameis is going to be a hell of a consolation prize. Yeah, Drew Brees hasn't retired.
Yeah, Sean Payton made a remark today. I think he was on Morton Anderson's podcast, actually, and he said, you know, I feel like we're all going to have a real better understanding about what's going on with Drew's situation in two weeks.
So even Sean Payton doesn't know what Drew's going to do. I think he's going to try to come back.
I really do. The hair kind of sold me.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's – I think he just is – he got a little bit healthier in the offseason and is like, you know what? I could still throw 75% completion percentage five yards down the field. Yeah, he opened up his stat book.
And you know what's also really weird about this offseason of quarterbacks? The football team, we're just not doing anything. We just don't, there's just no football acquisitions happening in and around the quarterback position in Washington.
I guess our position is maybe we'll just go with Taylor Heineke again. Kyle Allen, he's pretty good.
We've got two great backups, and I think we're just going to roll with that. You know what? I'm going to throw this out there, PFT, and this is based on zero knowledge at all, but I think there's a chance that the Bears and the Washington football team Freaky Friday hit, and the Bears end up with Alex Smith, and the Washington football team ends up with Mitch Trubisky.
I'll take it. I will become the world's biggest Mitch Trubisky.
I would become the most diehard Mitch Trubisky fan in the entire world if he played for the football team. That'd be awesome.
What if Mitchell Trubisky became a football quarterback? Yeah. If I went from dreaming about Russell Wilson to Alex Smith and Nick Foles, no.

If you combined, if you could figure out a way to, like, Dr. Frankenstein,

put Alex Smith and Nick Foles. No.
If you combine, if you could figure out a way to like Dr. Frankenstein, put Alex Smith and Nick Foles together, they still wouldn't be a good quarterback.
Tiny hands, huge dick. It's the worst combination.
They look like a great combination. Yeah.
Yeah. If you're taking pictures, it would look like a tube of cookie dough.
Yeah. Your fucking dick is a monster let's get to our interview we got an awesome interview with brody smith coming up we bang chains we disc golf we froth i seriously cannot recommend this interview enough it's one of those ones where we do something a little different and i walked away being like that was awesome he's a cool guy and i think we found our new best sport so uh for that.
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And now, here's Brody. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Brody Smith. He is a professional disc golfer.
I know not to say frolfer anymore.

I am now saying the correct term disc golfer.

Also had a past life as a professional ultimate frisbee player.

Has an awesome YouTube with trick shots.

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Wait, have you done a video with Dude Perfect?

I've done three.

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All right, this interview's over.

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Give me a power ranking of the dude.

Perfect guys.

And beardos last, right?

Wait, what is the, what are we ranking them on?

Like actual trick shot ability?

How much you want to kill them?

How perfect they are.

How perfect the dudes are.

No, they're all good dudes.

They're all real good dudes.

We know they are.

We actually watched a documentary and we came away with like, damn it. What? Like we've hated for so long, but they're actually all pretty good dudes.
It seems like they're nice guys. I like Purple Hoser, number one, and then Beardo comes in last.
Because you know his dad. He's the manager.
He's pulling all the strings, putting Beardo front and center. I know we love the Rage Monster.
But we're not going to put you in a bad spot. We're very happy to have you on uh we want to talk some disc golf we're gonna

talk about your career which is fascinating i was reading up on it before this interview so uh you are a professional disc golfer now correct uh yeah officially i guess you don't really become a because it's kind of weird it's like skateboarding and maybe a couple other sports where you can literally just say you're a professional without actually having any sort of of what is that actually yeah yeah yeah um but i would say you probably turn professional when you actually start accepting cash okay so so i think i've uh i've i'm slowly accumulating uh because i just started playing disc golf last year uh some cash under my career earnings right now so yeah i guess you would say i'm a professional disc golfer at this point. So just on a basic, we're just trying to understand because I actually really do want to play and thank you for sending the different discs.
Of course. Is there one league and how many tournaments are there in a given year? Yeah, so it's kind of an ever-changing landscape but they have the Disc Pro Tour, which is very recently, I think it's only been around for about three years or so.
And it's basically someone that has come in and is trying to be creating an actual league. Before then, it was just basically anyone could kind of run tournaments, and some tournaments would be a little bit more popular based off of the course some tournaments would be more popular because they have you know more added cash but now they're actually getting to the point of where there's an actual pro tour uh pro tour where there's you know anywhere from 13 to 15 different events throughout the year um i just got done playing one out in vegas i'm now actually in waco texas uh for the for the second stop and it kind of goes all over the united states um and we actually even go over to finland it's i believe disc golf is the number one sport in finland i love it yes so so over there it's absolutely crazy like if you if you look up up the European Open on YouTube and watch some footage from that,

it will look like a golf tournament.

There will be 5,000 people walking down the sides of the fairways.

It's insane.

And the courses that they have over there,

they're structured in a way where they look like golf courses but for disc golf.

So it's pretty wild. So what are the main events in the United States on the current tours? They're like, are there majors? Yeah.
So the big one is worlds that, that one it's considered a major, but if you win worlds, it's, it's kind of top dollar. And then after that you have the United States disc golf championship, which is also another major.
The one, the tournament I was talking about is called the European Open, which is over in Finland. That's the third major.
And then they just started the fourth major this year. It hasn't been done yet.
So that one, no one really knows about that one yet. I think it's called the Champions Cup, but they're doing an interesting format for that one.
So people are kind of on the fence of whether they like it or not i'm watching uh the european open right now it is fucking wild you weren't joking it's crazy right there's so many people uh watching this thing it's electric i we need to get disc golf to this level in america so all right other basic questions why did you send me so many Frisbees? I don't need that many Frisbees. No.
Okay. So you, you will, you will.
So here's the thing. You've thrown a Frisbee before, right? You go to a target and you buy a Frisbee, right? That Frisbee is going to fly the same way.
No matter what Frisbee you buy, whether you buy it at target, Walmart, whatever, that Frisbee is gonna fly the same way.

So in Ultimate Frisbee,

you have to manipulate the disc

to do what you want it to do.

In disc golf, you can throw a flat shot with a disc

and it'll go straight.

You can take another disc,

throw a flat shot and it'll go to the right.

You take another disc, throw a flat shot and it goes left.

So instead of manipulating the disc,

you just switch discs completely

See you next time. and it'll go to the right.
You take another disc, throw a flat shot, and it goes left. So instead of manipulating the disc,

you just switch discs completely,

throw the same shot,

and it'll actually have a different flight path.

That's sick.

So most pros will carry anywhere from like 14 to like 20 different discs

because they all fly differently.

And if you think about it,

the easiest way of thinking about it is golf. You've got your, your, your woods, you've got your long irons, your irons, your wedges and your putters and disc golf.
You basically have your putters, your mid ranges, which are like your irons, your fairway drivers, which are like your long irons and then your drivers. So there's like four different kinds of discs that you need.
And then you basically need to have each, each section there. You need one to go straight.
You need one to go straight, right. You need one to go straight left.
God. Okay.
What's a putter though. I don't understand how, like, couldn't you just throw any disc? No, you could, but you'll, you'll feel some discs will feel better in your hands than others.
Um, putters will have a little bit more of a rim to where it kind of feels a little bit more comfortable in your hand. And they're super slow.
So they're more similar to a Frisbee to where you're going to be able to have more control within 100 feet. Because if you throw, for example, a driver, when that driver hits the ground, it's going to skip and have a lot of action to it.
You don't really want that when you're trying to throw something close to the basket.

And are there limits to the size of how big the discs can be?

Because if it were up to me, like obviously you're close up.

If you have a putter, just get like a trash can lid, right?

Well, that wouldn't fit in the basket.

So that would be an interesting take on it.

Because the basket is – the basket is kind of like three –

right now it's about the width of three discs.

Okay.

So you got to – so it's a little bit big for some people as far as – because most other sports, like if you look at golf, basketball, a lot of times it's twice the size, right? So a basketball hoop is like two basketballs could theoretically fit. A golf cup, two golf balls could theoretically fit.
But with the chains, and you'll see when you guys start playing,

you'll have some that hit the chains and you think it's supposed to go in and it'll just it'll it won't go in so do you say do you say banging chains do you say like yo you want to go bang some chains uh me personally i don't but i definitely have heard it before yeah because i was gonna say that's like 90 percent of why i want to get into disc golf. Is the fact of being able to say that catchphrase? Yeah, like, yo, let's go bang some chains this weekend.
Like, what are you doing Saturday? You want to bang some chains? Well, I got this shirt, and I'm excited to wear it and see if it helps my putting a little bit. Yes.
So have you seen the sport growing over here in the United States? Like, are we on a path to get close to what Finland has? Yeah, I mean, it's tough to say as far as spectators go because of COVID. We haven't really been able to actually have spectators out at tournaments.
But similar to golf and some other sports, when you like sign up, right, like if you sign up for golf, you get a USGA number if you want. Same with disc golf, it's the PDGA, so Professional Disc Golf Association, or I think it's actually the Players Disc Golf Association.
When you sign up, you get a number. So you can see how long people have been playing disc golf because there are some people that have three digits, right? So they're like 178.
So they signed up years and years ago. I have five digits right now.
When I signed up, I think I was like right around 120,000 or something. I actually have six digits.
I might have six digits. I don't even know.
But essentially in the last year, there's been like 30 to 40 or 50,000 people to sign up, which is an insane amount of increase because I think it's like 5x or 10x or something from what they normally get year to year. And some of these YouTube videos now are getting 150, 200, 250,000 views of people just watching disc golf tournaments.
So it's definitely blowing up. The manufacturers in disc golf right now are trying to catch up.
That's one thing that's kind of going crazy right now is you'll sell a disc for $20 and then you could literally go on eBay and sell that $20 disc for $150, $200 because the demand for some of these discs are absolutely insane. So the disc you sent me, I could get probably $1,000 for them.
Well, those are stock discs. So it would be tough for you to get those.
But I can send you a Get Freaky, which is one of my discs. And those go for a nice little penny.
What does a Get Freaky do? So yeah, that's my catchphrase. I got the Get Freaky.
So when I was learning disc golf, again, like an ultimate. If you throw a Frisbee, it's hard to do it an ultimate if you throw a frisbee it's hard it's hard to do it but if you throw frisbee on like this angle it's just going to keep going on that angle and go into the ground but in disc golf there's a disc that you throw it on this angle and it flips out so when i saw that and started throwing it i was like dude this is the disc you need when you're in the woods and you need to get freaky.
And that's when it kind of caught on, and that's basically the disc that does that. I call it the get freaky.
Okay, so explain to me. You were ultimate Frisbee.
It's crazy. People always talk about Tim Tebow and the Joakim Noah days happen at the same time.
Well, guess what? i went to high school with tim tebow yeah so so the brody smith days happened at the same time too you're winning national titles for the university of florida during that heyday right so you guys you guys probably were were hanging out with the same chicks right no um but uh fun story about joe kim noah. One day when we were running track workouts at university of Florida, he was in the stands.
It is right before March madness was starting. He's got his headphones on hoodie on, and he's just there looking down at the thing.
And we thought we were the coolest people ever. Cause we thought he was like getting motivated by our track workouts.
He definitely wasn't. He was definitely out but he went he went on and won so we felt like we you know kind of helped motivate him a little bit to to win that back-to-back championship yes for sure so so wait so my question was so ultimate frisbee to disc golf was there like what made you uh decide to make that leap and were there people in the disc golf community who were like this is an ultimate frisbee bro he's not welcome here yeah uh so short answer is knee surgeries that's what that's basically what ended my ultimate career um i wanted to be able to walk when i was 40 and the path i was going on it wasn't looking good so i just needed to retire and stop, stop running, stop jumping, stop doing all that stuff.
That's really bad for your knees. And then I did a short stint into golf.
So I went hard into golf for about a year. I was taking lessons with Cameron McCormick, who's the famous coach of Jordan Spieth.
And ended up getting pretty decent at golf. I was a plus like two handicap.
But I was so far behind all these other people that I've been playing for forever. And also golf is freaking super expensive.
So I missed throwing the Frisbee. I loved golf.
And I was like, man, disc golf sounds like the perfect kind of animal for me. So I moved over to that.
And yeah, I mean, obviously you're going to have people that have been – you hear it all the time. They're like, these guys have been grinding for 10 years in disc golf.
And then you popped in and now you get everything so easy. And it's like you're always going to have haters.
You're always always gonna have people that get upset and and you know it is what it is I'm loving the sport I'm trying to you know get other people involved and try it it's a super cheap sport to do it you only need a couple discs uh courses are free to play and they're plentiful um it's kind of crazy how many courses there actually are if you really look into it. Um, but it's an awesome sport, man.
It's like a lot of people describe it as like an awesome walk in the woods, right? If you want to just go for like a nice hike, it's an awesome thing to do. Yeah.
I, yeah, that sounds, I mean, it sounds very relaxing to me and I can honestly see why in the last year it's grown so much because it's like the perfect sport for this time. You're just outside with maybe like a friend or two going for a walk.
Perfect for this pandemic year that we've had. So is there actual like is there real money that's now involved in disc golfing? Yeah.
I mean like I was talking about earlier, the amount of money that some people will spend on discs alone is insane. And then my buddy, Paul McBeth, who is also on Disccraft, which is the manufacturer I'm sponsored from, they just signed him to a $10 million 10-year deal.
So that's massive. And I think that will kind of also help a lot of players kind of start going that way.
But yeah, I mean, there's multiple, multiple people that are making six figures on disc golf, which isn't obviously in other sports is kind of nothing. But for the infancy that the sport is currently in, it's definitely headed into an awesome direction for people that really love the sport so i i did a bad job when when you mentioned the las vegas tournament where where did you finish so how many competitors were there and where'd you finish i think there was 170 wow i think something like that and i got i got 25th okay so you actually you are kind of fulfilling what you wanted to do and and like getting into that hey I'm gonna start competing at this yeah I mean the way I looked at it is an ultimate frisbee it took me three years to get to being one of the best players in the world I'm in just over a year in disc golf so 2022 was really kind of the the calendar year that I've circled as where i really want to start competing um and then obviously last year with covid i also got lyme disease which whoa if you know anyone that has that it sucks is that is that like you know how like nfl players like you know uh head trauma or acl is like is lyme disease the number one are going to have a Lyme disease controversy in like 10 years where the league totally covered it up and we now have to – like is that going to happen? Well, I mean I will tell you this.
When I'm playing in certain courses, I am very smart at covering up and putting on like the tick repellent because some of these courses aren't great and Lyme that uh it's you don't want to joke around with it because it if you don't take care of it seriously it can really mess you up long term yeah check yourself for ticks after a round yeah look underneath always yeah that's what i've always been told hopefully hopefully you have a late a close lady friend at that point and you you know you can get a little check it yeah yeah uh get freaky right get free freak it i like change so i have i luckily have a wife so it works it works fine so walk walk me through like a round on the course the mechanics of a round of disc golf are there hazards yeah so there's there's three three types of hazards basically you have out of bounds which is played a little bit differently than in golf uh in this basically. You have out of bounds,

which is played a little bit differently than in golf.

In this situation, if you go out of bounds,

you get to actually advance to where your disc was last in bounds

and take it from there with a stroke penalty.

They also have drop zones.

So sometimes if you throw it in the water, for example,

they'll move you to a closer spot

to where you still have to throw it over the water. And then we play on golf courses like the tournament out in vegas uh they'll use the bunkers as hazards so if you land in a bunker you throw from the bunker but you add a stroke as well okay and that's got to be a pain in the ass when you throw your disc into the water uh yeah it's it not great.
Because it's a different aspect than in golf because you hit a golf ball in the water. You're like, ah, whatever.
And most people too, right? They'll take the range balls and put them in the pocket and use those for the water holes. Disc golf is a little bit different because you get kind of attached a little bit to your disc because you're so familiar with what it does.
Yeah. That sometimes it's, uh, you, you'll see some guys actually go, you know, chest deep into the water to try to get certain dispatch.
Yeah. Cause it's more like you're losing a club than it is.
You're losing a ball. Exactly.
Have you ever had to go diving for one of yours? Uh, only one, only one. I try, I try to do, I try to go the route of where once a disc starts flying differently than when i first originally got it i just go and try to get the the brand new disc again because some people what they'll do is they'll actually throw the disc enough times to where after hitting trees hitting the ground it flies a certain way and they love it the problem is if you lose that disc now you have to find another one and work that one in it doesn't fly the same way right away yeah and are there unwritten rules of disc golf explain like uh etiquette style like i'm thinking in a round of golf you know you don't walk in somebody else's line you don't talk in their backswing that sort of thing like don't vape in someone dishing.
Like that would make sense. Yeah, I mean, I think it's very – the etiquette is very similar to golf.
You know, you don't stand in between the person putting and behind the basket because that's a little bit distracting. You know, if someone is about to throw, you kind of try to stay quiet.
The one interesting thing is you actually say like good round on the 18th tee so before the round's actually over which i find a i find that you can have some mental head games with people if you know a tournament's coming down to the wire you you get a little like hey great playing with you man hopefully you don't throw this one bad or you one bad or something like that to where before they have to throw a big shot on 18 or something. But I think most of the rules are very similar to golf.
What was the hardest thing to learn or the one aspect of disc golf that surprised you like, whoa, this is a lot more difficult than I expected because I would imagine you already had a leg up being a world-class ultimate frisbee player but what was that one thing like whoa i did not give these guys enough credit this is difficult i would say the nose angle so in ultimate you throw everything nose up so essentially when it leaves the hand you should be able to kind of see a little bit underneath the disc because that kind of gives it the lift and allows the disc to fly. And disc golf is the exact opposite.
You actually have to throw everything nose down. So it was essentially you're so used to throwing everything one way that then you have to just – it's a small minor adjustment.
But just the muscle memory of having to learn it differently, it took a really really long time and it was extremely frustrating damn how do you practice because you know you see a lot of golfers they work on their swing everywhere they go you can take practice cuts inside do you do like air reps with your arm or do you have to go outside and get like okay i need at least 60 60 yards to work on my on my stroke i think you'll see a lot of people doing that for their backhand. The backhand footwork is very similar to like a crow hop or an X-step in baseball.
So you'll see a lot of people kind of working on their footwork and timing a little bit. But for us, we don't have driving ranges.
So essentially, we try to find open fields, football fields, and we'll bring tons of discs out to those fields and either drop cones out there and kind of set up our own driving ranges to just get our practice in. We're going to get back to more Brody in a second.
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And now here's more Brody. So I saw that you, one of the things that you thought maybe will help grow the sport is referees.
Are there refs involved? That was more ultimate Frisbee. Okay, so that was ultimate Frisbee.
Are there refs involved in disc golf? It's still kind of like golf where it's, you know, players are making the call. And then if there is some sort of confusion, then there are officials or, you know, what we have tournament directors that can come in and kind of help with calls.
But for the most part, it's very similar to golf where, you know, players are able to just kind of say, hey, this is where I think you went out of bounds and you take their ball there. So I should have asked this earlier, but when you went from Ultimate Frisbee to disc golf, was Ultimate Frisbee community mad that you've left them? Some might have.
Some probably were very happy. Okay.
Oh. Are you the GOAT? No.
I mean, I did very well in college. I did very well in college.
And then I had some knee injuries afterwards. But my mindset with Ultimate Frisbee is I came in with, you know, a football, basketball, kind of that, like, super, super aggressive, super athletic, wanting to try to take the sport to the next level.
And some things that we kind of butted heads on a lot was the fact of what you were just alluding to with no referees. They have a thing called spirit of the game, which is essentially someone decided to take sportsmanship and like make it something else to where, you know, there's certain things that I't really fly with you know after a game if i lost a game the last thing i want to do is get into like a powwow with the other team and put our arms around each other yeah and have and have have the other team tell tell you like hey you guys did really good maybe next time and you know there was just certain things like that that i wasn't a big fan of also we played with what what are called observers so essentially if you took if you if you took a referee in football you put them on the field and you said hey do everything you're supposed to do but the only time you can actually enforce it is if a player asks you to so they're there watching the game they.
They know when violations are happening. They see everything, but they can't say anything until a player says, hey, what do you think? That's weird.
So the way I play the game is let's say someone throws a disc and it's me and you, right? And the disc is floating in the air and you're standing under it like this. And I jump over top of you and catch catch it and I nick you on the way up and you call foul.
Instead of what they wanted to happen is me and you stand there and talk back and forth and be like, I don't think I fouled you. And you go, no man, you fouled me.
And I go, I don't think I fouled you. No, you fouled me.
This is, you know, and reenact it and all that stuff. I didn't really like doing that because there's literally someone that saw it right here that's a third party right so i i would just say if you said foul i would literally just say contest and i just point to the observer so there were certain things like that that kind of weren't like weren't this was it the style or the culture of ultimate frisbee um but now ultimate frisbee has a professional league with referees and so it's kind of moving more in that direction of where you know it's really hard for people to watch a pickup basketball game yeah yeah you're before your time but i don't know i i think i think i helped kind of push the sport with a bunch of other people that really loved ultimate frisbee and wanted to see it kind of get to a bigger scale um and essentially that's what i'm trying to do now in disc golf is if there's anything that I think personally, this sport could change or do differently for more people to enjoy, uh, I'm going to kind of speak out and say what I think.
Am I right every time? Absolutely not. I'm probably wrong more than I'm right, but you know, I feel like ideas and things don't change unless people speak out.
So what, what is that thing right now for disc golf? If you could change one thing about the sport. Oh, man.
Gosh, now you're getting me on my hot. I would say the easiest answer is to get rid of ratings.
So in golf, if you went and asked, like, do you guys golf a decent amount or not really? I understand how the scores work. Once a couple years.
So you could potentially have a handicap, right? Right, right. But if you went up to like John Rahm and you're like, hey, John, what's your handicap? He'd be like, I don't know.
I don't have a handicap. In disc golf, everyone has a handicap essentially.
And that handicap is highly the most important thing based off of who's better than who. And it's also very subjective how you get your handicap because you could theoretically be a really, really good disc golfer in the woods.
So the only tournaments you play are in the woods. So your handicap is super inflated because you're just playing courses that suit your game so you could say hey my handicap's uh you know a two and someone else over here says my handicap's a five everyone's gonna look at you and say that guy's way better which is not the case you know if you look at golf no one has any idea who handicap whose handicap is what and any given day anyone can win a tournament right they're just pros right they're all yeah so i think that's one thing that's kind of holding back disc golf a little bit is the ranking system there needs to be an actual like ranking system based off of how you finish in a tournament versus like what your score was that makes sense though that i don't even think that's controversial we need something that will light the disc golf world on fire.

Yeah, controversy sells.

Yeah.

What's the most controversial thing that's happened recently?

You guys should just have a fake cheating scandal.

Yeah.

That will get all the headlines.

Don't cheat on your wife.

Don't do that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Tiger Woods.

You got to be the Tiger Woods.

I am happily married.

Yeah, no, I think with disc golf, honestly, I think it's just the ability of how cheap it is and how easy it is to play. I think really that's the best thing that disc golf has going for you.
And once you throw, it's similar to golf. You hit one good golf shot.
It doesn't matter if you hit 100 terrible ones. That one good golf shot will make you want to keep coming back out there i think this golf is like that but you're going to have more than one around yeah it makes you keep coming back is there a drug testing policy like how high do you have to be to play it's a good question um thanks it depends on who ask it depends on who you ask um there is currently no drug drug policy but i i hear that they're they're potentially looking to potentially do that in the future yeah like a p i think i don't think yeah i don't think i don't i don't think marijuana is going to be uh going to be on the list as like a thing i think i think they're going to allow it yeah it can't be i mean you can't it's legal literally well not only that but like no one would would discount that's like the whole point well some pros some pros still will but yes yes i wonder who that you guys should get an adderall uh an adderall scandal that would be good there has been talks on that because some people think that that does give you an

unfair advantage. I would imagine it does.

Like, it's hard to focus.

Yeah, it's hard to focus for

18 holes of disc golf.

You need a little something to sharpen

you up. Yeah, do you think

that's the reason why they say good round at the

start of the 18th hole? Because, like, the first person

that played was so high by then, he thought

the round was over, and so he said it went hole too early. I actually have no idea how that started.
But that very well could be. So you said that you finished 25th in Vegas.
Where did you rank amongst the Brodies? Were you the number one Brody? I think I'm... Are you talking specifically people named Brody? Yeah.
Well, or guys who have Brody vibes. Yeah.
Oh, what's my vibe?

Oh, you're Brody.

I mean, Brody's, you know, Florida, golf, whatever, disc golf.

I imagine Brody for disc golf is like Cody for the rodeo.

Yeah.

So how many Brody vibes did you beat out?

I have no idea.

I don't know.

That's so Brody.

That's alpha Brody.

It might be.

It might be. You got to play in Europe.
I want to go watch one of these. We got to get disc golf to be like it is in Europe.
This European Open video I watched is incredible. What do you think the best course is in the United States? That's so debatable.
Let's debate it. Well, yeah, let's do it.
You guys have never played it. I think there was one in Austin that was near my house.
Oh, is it Roy G? Do you know that's the name of it? Yeah, I know Roy G. They also had a soccer golf place right next to it, so I usually play the soccer golf instead of the Frisbee.
There was like a little budding rivalry going on there. Soc's actually legit yeah i personally think uh here we go here did you just google best courses in the world i'm a big uh fuck uh fuck i like to personally play the blue ribbon pints oh i haven't played that one but i heard it's i heard it's very nice it's dope It's very dope.
You're like, it's great.

What have you played on the uh i'll name a couple so the yeah list them off there's the jarvis park jarva disc golf park in stockholm that's the one in finland yeah maple hill in uh lester mass yep there's hillcrest farm disc golf in prince edward island no idea about that the canyons at delwood park in lockport illinois and where i what oh santa cruz de la vega park yeah i haven't i haven't played any of these you gotta go out to some of these i know that one okay what's what's your what's your favorite what's your number one mean, I really like the course that I'm at right now down here in Waco. They call it The Beast.
Whoa. Yeah.
Not right on this list, just so you know. It's not even on there? Nope.
Oh, man. Nope.
I like Toboggan, which is up in Michigan. That course was fun.
Okay. That should be on there.
Yeah. Oh, Renegades Trail is in Michigan.
Fergus Park and Barnstable, Mass. These are cool.
It's a world-renowned course. These are some cool names.
Old Sawmill. Let's just rank them off names.
Did you just say Pebble Beach? Yeah, Old Sawmill. They got a disc golf course there.
No, do they really? Yeah. This one, Sky High at Mountain High North.
That's got to be fun. That's a chill course.
Highs, can you get in there? Oh, what's the best shot that you've ever, is it hit or thrown? Do you throw a shot? Yeah, I guess so, there's a lot of lingo that comes over from golf that doesn't really make sense for what we do. Right.
Like good putt. Like we're not really actually putting, we're throwing a disc into the basket or, um, but yeah, I guess you would just say throw good throw.
People say good shot too. That's good.
Yeah. Do you guys have caddies? Uh, currently not because of COVID of covid but yes some people will have caddies really some people will rock the uh the roller cart which i feel like you might be a roller cart kind of guy yeah i i would be a roller cart guy but i was gonna say if you have a caddy now your caddy's got to be fucking really blazed like that to be a caddy to be a disc golf caddy.
You should cad caddy for me at a tournament i will that would be wild before that would be wild that would be a lot of fun you might get thrown out which we that might be the controversy we need i mean getting kicked out of a disc golf tournament would be that's life goals like you got kicked out of a dog show i would love adding disc golf that would be perfect bad boy disc golf what about um what's the longest putt you've made uh i've i've made probably like 80 feet 80 90 feet with this with the scuba which is like my uh my little putt that i brought over from frisbee okay you throw it upside down nice yeah because you also did obviously the trick shot so you yeah like that had to have helped uh your your learning curve when it came to disc golf throwing frisbees into a trash can at the campus of florida right i know right that was that was such a long time ago but yeah i mean i think it i think it helps with the imagination like being able to just imagine uh imagine different lines that that a disc can travel yeah do you have uh do you have like a signature celebration when you make a nice shot like that oh two fingers salute I like that that's like Mike Anderson the mile house salute right we call it we call it the scuba salute a scuba salute so this is so this is called a scuba that's how you throw it. So you throw it upside down like that.

And then if you make it, you just give the fans a little scuba salute action.

Do you have a fan club?

I mean, there's a collector page on Facebook.

Those are the people that go nuts over the discs.

I think we need to make a fan club.

You've got a YouTube.

I know you have a huge YouTube.

Huge YouTube.

But we need to make a fan club.

Yeah, you need a legion.

You need an army behind it.

Right.

The scuba. Like Scars and shit.
Brody'sos. Yeah, Brody's bro with the scoobers army.
I mean, I'm excited for when spectators come back, man. I'm excited to see what people are going to be showing up to.
Because I think the sport, obviously with COVID and stuff, the sport has definitely blown up in the last year. Yeah.
So, I mean, it's going to be nuts to see thousands of people out at these events. They need to do a pro-am.
Yeah. Ooh, yeah, pro-am would be good.
Father, son, that would be sick. I mean, I can't really do that, but I don't have any children.
Yeah. You'll get there.
We'll just pretend that we're your kids. All right, so I had one last question.
It's actually not my question.

It's going to be a weird one, so be prepared.

Our not no longer intern, he's just part of our show,

Jake Marsh has a question for you.

Brody, do you remember me from Camp Laurel South in 2010?

Take a look.

There we go.

My family, the Marshes. Hey were you're a camper yeah oh my gosh you'll have to send me a video a photo of you what you look like back then because it's been what 12 years yes yeah in the room here they don't think you remember me but i know you remember my family the marshes no the marsh is down what uh you were in allagash what yeah what where were you in i was an eighth grader my brother was drew he was also an allagash yeah my little sister janey you like traded backpacks yeah yeah yeah my little backpack janey was like the smallest girl in camp exactly she She was the youngest camper in the history of camp.
That's a fact. Dude.
Yeah. I think she was, I think she was, she was super small.
Yeah. Do they, do they know about camp Laurel South at all? Have you told them about it? No Brody.
So this is how I went to camp. Yeah.
So it was literally, it was literally the, the sickest camp that you could send your kid to. Like it was something along the lines lines of every two years, they're like, we need to get new speedboats for the campers.
That's awesome. These speedboats are too old.
The banquet. Yeah, they put in a $500,000 tennis facility.
Yeah, that was the first year. Ten USTA official size courts.
Yeah. Damn.
Dude, it was literally like, you got free candy?

Oh, canteen, yeah.

Yeah, at will.

That's normal at all camps.

I didn't know about that.

I went to a YMCA camp, so it was a little bit different.

So this is how it came up.

We were talking about disc golf, and Jake was like,

oh, Brody Smith invented Ultimate Frisbee at our camp. And we're like, what? How is that? Like, what do you mean he invented it? So do you want to claim fame to inventing it at camp, whatever it's called? Laurel style.
I don't know if inventing might be the right word, but I brought Ultimate Frisbee to the camp. It wasn't, it wasn't an activity prior to my, uh, prior to me being at camp.
God, people forget that Brody invented beast mode. You did this thing where you would like scream into beast mode before Marshawn Lynch.
Did you remember that? I code. Yeah.
I remember knocking down a tree with my shoulder going into beast mode. Yeah.
Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff went down at that camp.
That camp was fantastic. He remembers.
That's awesome. How about that? Yeah.
I love it. Jesus.
What a fucking weird world we live in. Wait, is there, is there a video game that you can play for disc golf? Oh, we need that.
Yeah. Really? You guys need to download.
It's an app. Okay.
You should download it. It's called disc, disc golf Valley.
Done. And it'll start helping you learn the different flights of discs, too.
Can I play as Brody? I don't think that name's available anymore. You might have to go with, like, a Brody Smith 1784 or something.
This is sick. I'm going to play this.
The shit out of this. All of this all right so brody this has been awesome uh whenever you're next closest to the new york area we have to go out and do a video dude we got to play for sure i think it's uh it's one of those sports too the the better you get at tossing throwing whatever you want to call it the tossing's cool yeah it's it's super enjoyable but i'm But I'm glad you guys have some sort of interest in it.
I think that's dope. I appreciate it.
It sounds like a lot of fun. It's honestly, again, going back to the beginning, I wouldn't have any interest in it if it wasn't called banging chains.
When someone told me they banged chains, I was like, I got to get involved in this. You're all about it.
Yeah, I mean, what's cooler than just going into the woods

with some of your bros and banging some chains?

Hey, if you're really feeling it,

we could maybe work out something

where we get your actual banging some chains disc.

Yeah.

We could put the logo on a disc and everything,

and you'd start tossing those things around.

Hell yes.

Oh, I'm doing putting practice right now.

There you go. I'm going to bang some chains.
some chains uh all right oh shit this game is hard do you play this game no oh you do the real life you don't you that was yeah that's nerd that was what was what was he said put a jersey on i was gonna say is that a is that a brody thing to say no no, I like it. Jay Feeley, I don't play video games.

I play real life.

We're all playing this game now.

All right, Brody, thanks so much, man.

We really appreciate it.

Everyone go check out Brody on Twitter, on YouTube.

Is it all just Brody Smith?

On Twitter, it's weird.

I think it's BrodySmith21.

If you look up Brody Smith, I think that's an Australian football player. Yeah.
Brody Smith's with an I and an E, not a Y. So Brody Smith 21 on Twitter.
He's got a YouTube channel. We're now part of, what do we call it? The scuba scoops army or the Brody Brody boys, Brody's boys in the scuba rows inside of the scuba's Army.
A division of Scuba's Army. Right, exactly.
It's a name in the works. Yes.
All right, thanks so much, man. Really appreciate it.
Hey, appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me on.
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All right, let's wrap up. We got Fyre Fest coming up, but we also have Seamhead Express.
Enough baseball news that we're just going to do a full segment on it. We're going to start with the New York Mets practicing winning the World Series.
What a video. You have to be prepared for everything, Big Cat time what's the saying that they always say like every time you go to the ballpark you're going to see something that you've never seen before well yep the mets winning the world series uh they practiced it was it conforto that made the final catch yep yep so i kind of like this i like this if uh if i'm being honest as a fan of notets, because they're probably going to be selling at the trade deadline.
So that means that the guys that they will be selling have practiced potentially winning a World Series. So when they go to a team that's adding that last piece, the Mets have done all the prep work for you.
So I like it. I like it for a different reason.
It made me realize that I have job security no matter what in life in that every team and corporation should have on staff a person who essentially is just there to say hey will we get made fun of for this and then you just put it on their desk and they can be like yep or no and that is what the mets the mets need to hire someone like that right now uh like steve

cohen having to lead his twitter was earlier earlier this year that was another case of it

but that's a job that we could do we would actually be like there are very few jobs that

we are qualified for at this point in our career it's pretty much just podcasting and blogging and

that's it but our will the internet make fun of you for this is absolutely a job we could do. Yes, as a hater, as a card-carrying hater, we would absolutely be able to tell a team, like, no, don't do this.
I'll give credit to LeBron James and Space Jam. They took out the scene where LeBron explains consent to Pepe Le Pew, the rapist skunk.
That was a good call. They had somebody on staff that saw that, and they're like, no, you know what? People are going to roast you for this.
It's going to be a bad idea. Don't put it in there.
The Mets absolutely do need some. Actually, no, they don't need somebody like that on staff because the Mets give us so much content.
I'm not entirely convinced that the Mets aren't just like a content factory that happens to be also a baseball team. They're so good at providing us with stuff to talk about.
Yeah. This is why Trevor Bauer not going to the Mets was such a, such a miss.
That would have been, it would have been the Avengers of trolling. Yeah.
Yes. It's a, it's a damn shame, but it's, it's okay.
I'm so glad that the Mets are around to do stuff like this because if Trevor Bauer was taking part in this, like Trevor Bauer would probably probably fuck it up on purpose like trolling everybody because he would be a guy that would tell you don't do this we're going to get roasted for it because he is a troll so if it was like a pop-up to him he'd probably drop it and then tweet out we were practicing winning the world series and i dropped it shit we didn't win the world series again like he would have done another spin on it. So I'm actually glad that I like my Mets being pure.
All right, Seamhead Express number two. What do you got? A dumb baseball injury.
So Byron Buxton from the Twins, he cracked one of his teeth. So he's going to be out for a little bit.
He cracked a tooth eating a steak. What? Yeah, eating a steak.
It's probably that medium rare plus that big cat's always talking about that's why you got to go rare or medium rare keep oh i think i think the other way i think the the more you cook it the the more likely you're going to crack a tooth that's what i'm saying yeah the more you cook it the more likely so medium rare plus oh cooked okay you're saying okay that's that's too cooked got it got it yeah plus that got him yeah i mean medium rare plus honestly like lives rent free in your head and has been for the last five years no i'm it's just a weird thing to do now billy as our as a resident meat expert have you ever injured your mouth eating meat you probably bit into a bone didn't that was there. That caused a lot of cracks.
Yeah. Yeah.
Although, bones are pretty... If there's a bone in your steak, you know that there's a bone.
It's pretty tough to miss. Sometimes on some T-bone cuts...
It could have been a phantom bite. You ever do that? Where you go to bite something and you almost miss it, and then you crack your tooth on your tooth, that can happen.
You know what? This is what happens when they take chewing tobacco out of the game. Players have just these candy ass teeth.
They're not used to just grinding their molars anymore. It's sad.
It's true. It's true.
And then last up for Steamhead Express, what did you have? We had something else on the Steamhead Express. The minor league.
What are they doing? They're getting rid of it rid of it oh yeah yeah yeah the minor so minor league rule changes this is uh mike greenberg's dumb rules way to stay relevant baseball uh they are i actually like this rule in triple a they're making the bases bigger on uh on first second third base they're they're going from 15 square inches to 18 square inches so i i like that i think it's going to pop a little bit more on camera, those extra three inches. It makes a big difference.
Yeah, and more steals. The worst rule in all of baseball these days is the pop-up rule when you get up off the bag and you're off the base for a split second and someone tags you.
That's the most frustrating thing ever. So maybe a more bag there that won't happen as much yeah or make it like a softer bag like almost a gelatin type bag where you where your hand gets absorbed and ensconced by the uh by the base so as you pop up it sticks in there uh because yeah i hate that rule especially when they review it and it and you see your foot come off it for a half second.

They're also doing a defensive positioning rule in AA where the defensive team must have a minimum of four players on the infield, each of whom must have both feet completely in front of the outer boundary of the infield dirt. So four defensive players on the infield standing in the dirt at all times.
and I don't know how I feel about that one

because I do like, I don't like the shift

but I do like it when they play a shift. Like suicide squeeze.
Yeah, I do like it when they play a shift and there's one guy standing like 100 feet into the outfield. That looks hilarious.
But, yeah, I guess the suicide squeeze is back on. Yeah, they're basically making minor league baseball like adult men's softball.
These are rules that happen. I'm for this.
I agree. The shift has – I'll do it.
I'll say it. The shift has ruined baseball.
Let's be fucking Peter Gamets on it for a second. Let's be Tim Kirkshan.
The shift has ruined baseball. I think it's ruined baseball just because it's demonstrated that there are so many great hitters out there that are physically incapable of bunting.
Yes, of just hitting something right down the line. And that is the most exciting play in all of baseball.
At this point, when you can bunt against the shift, that's the coolest. Yes, it's better than a home run.
They're also limiting pitchers to a total of two step-offs or pick-offs per plate appearance while there is at least one runner on base, and that's in single A. That's in single A they're doing that.
So I do love when the fans start booing pitchers for throwing like one pick-off attempt at first base. So I hope this doesn't stop that.
I hope this doesn't curtail any of the booing. And then there's one other addition where it's, in addition to limitations on step-offs and pick-offs, following successful pace of game rules testing among Florida State League teams, there are going to be two timers.
There are going to be two timers that have new regulations beyond the current system to reduce game length and improve the pace of play.

So they're implementing watches.

Baseball has introduced Casio sports watches to the umpires.

That's so huge.

So huge.

All right, let's finish up.

We got Fyre Fest of the Week.

Hank, you want to start us off?

Sure.

My Fyre Fest PFT alluded to it earlier.

I did my taxes.

I filled them out.

I did the right thing. I actually did them this year.

Did them early, or so I thought.

I thought I was doing the right thing, you know.

And then I tweeted about it. I got this text from this kid, Brian, who's got

an avatar, an AVI,

if Billy were saying it,

of him playing tennis.

And the tweet said, why so early?

The due date will probably

be pushed back, leaving time to

Max Roth's IRAs, HSAs, plus income level for stimulus could have been in play. And I didn't know what any of that meant, but I knew I fucked up.
So that guy's just saying, why did you do your taxes so early? Because you probably won't. That would be very funny if Hank did his taxes early the one year that he doesn't ever have to do them.
Apparently, yeah. I mean, I, I, this guy hit me with so many facts that I didn't understand any of them that I just, I realized I fucked up.
But here's the, here's the spin zone, Hank. You have more time to say, oh, I already did them.
True. You get to, like, run up the score for even more months being like, taxes, did them already.
Also, a guy like that, when he's throwing, like, all these options at you, to to to have to sit down and figure out how much money you would save using each of those options and then deciding where to put your money to me that actually sounds like it'd be a waste of time is money you'd probably come out losing overall if you sat down and actually did enough homework on what the smartest financial decision was sometimes saying fuck it and taking the easy way out is best for the long-term pocketbook yeah just buy it buy doge yes buy doge exactly got my doge right here yes uh pft what's your fire fest of the week uh my fire fest is we're fucked boys and girls part of my take is fucked uh because rex chapman is doing his own sports podcast he just announced today rex chapman the king of twitter the king of engagement is doing his own sports podcast. He just announced today, Rex Chapman, the king of Twitter, the king of engagement, is starting his own sports podcast.
And we had a good run on this show, but I don't think that there's any chance that we can compete with Rex just saying, like, we don't deserve dogs, bro, and then playing a clip of Hank talking about Normie's dick for 75 seconds. I really...
Because that's... He's going to crush us.
Yeah. I really hope he like leans into it and just, it's a clip show of every other podcast.
That would be so funny. That would be so funny.
I would respect the hell out of it if he did that. Pods, bro.
Pods, bro. How do you do an emoji like verbal? That's one thing we haven't done on this show.
We do verbal memes, but verbal emojis. You repeat it over and over.
Verbal emoji. Cry face, cry face, cry face.
Skull, skull, skull. Skull, skull.
Yeah, there we go. Boom.
Sick. All right.
My FireFest is we're in the thick of March, and I was hot. I don't know if you guys saw, but I did get two did get two lotteries in a row and I thought that that was going to be almost like the natural, like that was going to be the moment that my whole life changed.
Turns out that's not true. So that's my fire fest.
Like I really did think, Oh my God, I just, what Jake said, it was like one in 10,000 chance. I thought that that was the moment that everything changed for me, gambling luck-wise, and I was going to be like the sharpest sharp of all time.
Not even close to true. It lasted 24 hours.
I won my next five bets after the lottery machine. So it wasn't like I was just thinking this.
I actually was believing it too, and then it all crashed. So it turns out I'm a mere mortal.
You peaked too early. I did have that.
When Duke won last night, I had won actually six bets in a row off of the lotteries machine, and I had that exact thought. I was like, am I just never going to lose anything ever again in my life? And then I lost Northwestern bet like almost 90 seconds later.
Yeah. I mean, historically we're very bad at being able to tell when you should give up, when you should quit while you're ahead, because you never know, like in the moment when you're ahead, you don't know how far ahead you are because you're always looking into the future.
Like when you're a little bit behind, you can tell exactly what you have to do to get back to being ahead. But then once you reach the front of the pack, you're like, I might, I might be fucked.
I might be about to get caught. So quitting while you're ahead never really made sense.
Nope. Nope.
Agreed. Uh, Billy, your fire fest.
Uh, so my fire fest of the week, even though it is the first nice day of the year in the Northeast on this Thursday, um, some may the first nice day of the year is like taking Molly for those who have been shut in all winter. But anyway, I did a gamble today.
What was that like? What was that like? I don't know what Molly's like, but I think it's like the first nice day of the year. That's how it was described to me.
Yeah, by who? By Twitter. I saw it on Twitter.
Anyway, I did a gamble today. I did a parlay, got back into gambling.
I took South Florida plus 104, Oklahoma State plus 140, and then I had Syracuse plus 195. So this would have been a plus 1,300 bet parlay, and it all won South Florida won, Oklahoma State won, and then Q's fucked me at the buzzer, and it would have cashed out huge.
Damn. Damn.
You got two out of three? Yeah. Damn.
And a buzzer beater. Anyway.
Two out of three, when you bet two out of three parlay and you hit money lines, that's actually the worst way to lose of all time. I know.
I mean, the buzzer beater on cues, so that was a heartbreaker.

Wait, was it you or was it your hedgehog?

My hedgehog chose them.

Oh.

You haven't fucked that thing to death?

Well, anyway, also. Hey, somebody sent me this animal fact, so I want to make sure that I read it before Billy reads his.

Did you know that chickens die after they have sex?

Oh.

That's not true at all. Yours did.
No. What? Yeah.
Well, you fucked it. Anyway, also, I have an exam on St.
Patrick's Day next week, which sucks. Oh, man.
That's terrible. Oh, dude.
On a weekday? Yeah. That's such your luck.
Also, we fucked up by, I think we were wrong again about Daylight Savings Time, Big Cat.

But it's going to be this weekend.

But record scratch, the United States Senate is passing a bill saying that we're not going to do Daylight Savings Time ever again.

Oh!

So your clocks stay where they are.

That was in the stimulus package, right?

Yeah.

So be on the lookout.

I think they're going to make an announcement in the next couple days. But it looks like we're not going to be changing our clocks this summer.
Ever again. Ever again.
That's actually great, though, because that means we're not going to have to deal with like whenever we in January, when it gets dark at like four o'clock, that's not going to happen anymore. We're good.
Yeah, we're going on permanent Coughlin time. That's fucking sick.
Wow wow that actually made me happier than the Molly spring day thing yeah what happens though like I don't know how time works are we just gonna forget that that hour ever existed are we just gonna be an hour ahead or hour behind of where we should be for the rest of eternity yeah I I'm fine with that. Jake, you got any fire fest before we get out of here?

Yeah.

So we talked about it on Wednesday with Biz

about how we called the Pink Whitney Cup video series coming soon.

I got some bad sunburn from it.

I'm starting to peel.

Uh-oh.

So it's not ideal.

But it was still worth it.

Where are you peeling, Jake?

Oh, no.

Get some lotion on that. Yeah, I got to take care of it.
So we'll see. But I'll be okay.
It was a fun time. Oh, also, Firefest, we forgot to mention that when we predicted Myers Leonard, apology, we never in a million years thought it would be him wearing his fucking sick-ass shades.
The pit vipers. Those were sick, weren't they? Did he put that out? No, I don't think so.
That was the athletic. Yeah, it was.
It was the athletic, and you could tell because it had the giant quotation marks upside down in the athletic font. But those pit vipers were sick.
It was funny. The athletic did him a huge favor by putting that out there because then people just got mad at the athletic for making such a ridiculous graphic.
Yes. And people kind of forgot for a second about Myers-Leonard, but he's suspended for a week.

I saw The Onion made a very funny joke about how he's getting circumcised.

That was very funny and original of them to make that observation.

But, yeah, he's suspended for a week, so that's the going rate.

Yeah.

Billy, you want to hit the numbers?

I'll go 98.

18.

32. Manatees inspired mermaid myths 8 Sailors like you thick The sailors were so horny 73 Oh we should have lied to Big Cat What number is it What did you say I didn't say anything What'd you say?

I didn't say anything.

What'd you say?

Oh, okay.

It's 99.

Oh, I said 98.

It's actually 73.

All right, we'll see you.

Hey, Selection Sunday.

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We got Mark Titus on next week, too.

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