Max Homa, Arian Foster, Tiger Woods Accident And Were Going To Be Rich Off Topshot

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Speaker 2 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer. We have Max Homa fresh off his Genesis open win.

Speaker 4 Genesis halftime show win. Genesis halftime open win.

Speaker 2 And then we have Arian Foster doing a draft of the top conspiracy theories in honor of the debut of Macrodosing, PFT and Arian's new podcast.

Speaker 4 We will leave it up to the people to vote.

Speaker 2 So listen to that. And then we'll put it up to a vote.
And the winner of the vote gets a free t-shirt. Yeah,

Speaker 4 whatever conspiracy theory wins, we will send that first parties implicated.

Speaker 2 Parties and involved.

Speaker 2 Yes, we have obviously Tiger Woods news.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to Part of My Take presented by Verizon 5G. Today is Wednesday, February 24th, and we are about to be rich again.

Speaker 2 What was the last thing we were about to be rich on? The Doge Corner.

Speaker 4 Oh, by the way, my Doge figurine arrived today.

Speaker 2 Oh, nice. I'm wearing my Doge sweatshirt to the moon.
No, we are going to be rich on Top Shot. Now,

Speaker 2 the real news today was Tiger Woods got into a car accident. We hope he's okay.
It would have felt weird to start the show being like today is February 24th and Tiger Wood got in a car accident. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're just not trying to bum you out heavily.

Speaker 2 Right, but right now.

Speaker 4 We should talk about it a little bit. Like, we obviously hope that Tiger's okay.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 7 It seems like he is.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know what? Right now we're waiting for the facts to come out.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 2 I did break my cardinal rule of just not tweeting right away when something happens.

Speaker 2 I didn't even make a joke of it. I made more of an observation that the L.A.

Speaker 2 Sheriff's County tweeted in the Masters green color, green and yellow color, to announce the Tiger Woods got in a car accident. That was in poor taste.
That was my bad. I do hope he's okay.

Speaker 4 As Max Homa and Brooks Kepka fans, we hope the Tigers.

Speaker 2 No, yes, exactly. No, I do.

Speaker 2 It's a rule that is in place for a reason that there's no reason to tweet about anything when facts are murky. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because no one cares that much about my opinion.

Speaker 2 So that was a my fuck up, my bad. I took a mechoca for in Karon Butler.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 how many pounds was Brian Gomes?

Speaker 2 265 out of high school.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so yeah, we obviously hope that Tiger's okay.

Speaker 4 It's still like a little bit unclear what the injuries are, how serious they are. So it's probably better to err on the side of caution.
Correct.

Speaker 2 And also, here's what I didn't do, and I don't think people should do, is speculate on what could have caused it. The real story is that he got in a car accident.
You hope he's okay.

Speaker 2 The actual car crash looked really bad. It seems like from all reports that it is something with his legs.

Speaker 2 And I saw a tweet from someone in his camp saying that he's in stable condition, so he's going to be okay. But there'll clearly be injuries from it.

Speaker 4 This feels like one of those situations where TMZ is shockingly just going to crush everybody in terms of breaking the most accurate, most up-to-date news.

Speaker 4 They pull like rabbits out of their hats a couple times a year when it comes to major celebrity stories like this.

Speaker 4 I feel like I'm waiting on TMZ to wait for the facts to come out before I will let my facts come out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so here's the report I was reading. Tiger Woods has a non-life-threatening injuries per spokesman on LA CBS affiliate just now.
So,

Speaker 2 yeah, let's hope he's okay. And let's hope, you know, it's weird to say it.
I saw a lot of people tweeting. It is kind of weird to be like, I hope he plays golf again.

Speaker 2 But it's also like the inner sports fan to be like, yeah, I hope he plays golf again. I hope he's okay.

Speaker 4 And also, just know that we interviewed Max Homa on Monday before this happened. So, we do ask him a couple questions about getting to meet Tiger, which he had said.

Speaker 4 He had said that he was, you know, he had been trying to get Tiger to give him a high five at Riviera for the last 20 years. Right.

Speaker 4 So, we asked him a little bit about that, but that was done before any of this. So, if you hear him talking about Tiger, it's not that he's glossing over it, it was just in the past.

Speaker 2 It was, yeah, we did it on Monday when we get him.

Speaker 4 He's not a time chart.

Speaker 2 It's off the win.

Speaker 2 Okay, so that happened again.

Speaker 2 Hope everything's okay. But we are surreal thing to see, especially because, like, I mean, the, like, I, I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's weird to go back in time and think about the Kobe, you know, how shocking all that was.

Speaker 2 And then you hear this and you see the picture, and you're like, holy fucking shit, that is way more severe. And I know that there were some people in the Barcelona office, and I understand it,

Speaker 2 in that

Speaker 2 there used to be a yearly joke tweet story that would go around being like Joe Flacco or Drew Brees or Jay Cutler broke their legs in a car accident.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I I think it happened twice to Drew Brees. It happened once to

Speaker 4 Terry Bradshaw, right? Right. Like Floro killed Terry Bradshaw at one point.

Speaker 2 It's weird to see that and realize that there's actually a lot of people probably weren't on the internet in 2013, 14, where this actually did happen all the time.

Speaker 2 So when you see Tiger Woods car accident, leg injuries,

Speaker 2 like you, it's a throwback. Obviously, that's not the case here, but that I can see the confusion there.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, when I first saw it,

Speaker 4 it, when I first saw it come out, and honestly, like one of the better life hacks that I've had in the last couple years is turning on tweet notifications from Adam Schefter. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 4 he's on top of everything.

Speaker 4 When it comes out from Adam, if it's an MRI or if it's an x-ray of somebody's hand, or if it's the fact that Cam Newton's on the Patriots and we get to break it in the middle of the show, it's actually like a good thing.

Speaker 2 He's Brian Tape.

Speaker 2 He hardly ever falls for.

Speaker 4 Yep, that's true. He hardly ever falls for any fake news stories.
So he's pretty good about the retweet button.

Speaker 2 So, all right, so yeah, hope Tiger's okay. Hope everything works out.
Scary, scary news story.

Speaker 4 But we are going to get rich. We are going to get rich.

Speaker 2 Top shot shot.

Speaker 2 So I spent the morning being skeptical and the afternoon being a true believer.

Speaker 4 Dude, I'm such a believer because the second I realized that it was exactly what trading cards are, except online, I'm in.

Speaker 4 Because some guy just sat down one day and was like, I'm going to make pictures of baseball players worth a lot of money. Yes.
Because people will want to look at them.

Speaker 4 And that, if you think about that guy, when that guy came out, people were like, dude, you're crazy. Nobody wants those.

Speaker 2 So here's why I was skeptical. I was skeptical because I live life with two hard and fast rules.
One is everyone's trying to scam everyone at all times. Okay.

Speaker 2 Someone's going to get their nut off while everyone else holds the bag.

Speaker 4 If you're not doing the scamming, you're getting scammed.

Speaker 2 Correct. Yeah.
Two is when I hear about a scam, or this isn't a scam, this is real.

Speaker 2 When I hear about something the latest and greatest new thing it's too late yeah and that's really that is i think truthful uh the minute that it hits my ears or i understand something the money that was to be made has already been made i am the mush the cooler whatever you want to call it but when i show up to the party the party's usually over Wouldn't you guys agree?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think

Speaker 4 that's fair.

Speaker 2 So I walk in the door and I'm like, hey, let's all get drunk. And everyone's like, dude, time to go home.

Speaker 4 There are studies that have been done. Like, I know in the tech industry, it's like you've got the people that develop the product.

Speaker 4 Then you have like the early stage adopters that really get to become experts on it. Then you have like the tipping point.

Speaker 4 And then just past the tipping point, you have like the sucker public that gets in at the very end and doesn't really understand where this thing came from. That we are...

Speaker 4 We're not the last of the hard. I think we're the first of the suckers.
So sometimes we can get in and we'll be a little bit sucker.

Speaker 2 We'll be less suckery than the majority of people but we're still like the first suckers yeah we're the first tranche of suckers because they know that like okay you i might be uh maybe a couple days ahead of time magazine but that might be

Speaker 2 like pushing it it might not be a couple days it might be a day before your parents read it on an you know in a magazine or a newspaper i might have found out about it 24 hours before that so i i'm typically like four days before my mom puts a facebook post up about something yeah and about five days before Rick Riley makes a joke about it.

Speaker 4 So that is exactly, you're right. That's where we are.
I think

Speaker 4 we can still get rich off this, though, because I bought the most pristine mint condition gif of Alex Caruso blocking James Harden today.

Speaker 4 It is sick. Paid 500 bucks for it.
And

Speaker 2 here's the thing. Real cash? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it was a little.

Speaker 2 It's all made up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So money's not real. Monopoly.

Speaker 6 You couldn't use Coinbase to pay for stuff.

Speaker 2 Oh. Okay.

Speaker 4 So I tried to buy a Jimmy Butler GIF, right? But I couldn't. This is what made me skeptical about the entire operation.
I was excited. I was pumped up.

Speaker 4 I was ready to spend $3,000 on a GIF of Jimmy Butler hitting a jump shot. I was ready to do it.
I was trying to do it. And the technology was like, hey, we're not selling them right now.
Chill.

Speaker 4 The site's not working.

Speaker 4 If you can't take $3,000 from me, the first of the suckers, to me, that's a red flag that you're not really going to be able to bilk the real idiots out there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, so I have a different experience so far. I have someone else running my account for me, and

Speaker 2 I, this is truly, I'm too old, Billy.

Speaker 2 I was immediately gifted three of the same Otto Porter plays, and I don't know if those people realize, like,

Speaker 2 I actually do watch the Bulls, and I know Otto Porter's not, like, this isn't going to be valuable.

Speaker 2 So, thank you for the gift, but it's clear you're probably using it as a tax write-off, trying to be like, that's a loss on Otto Porter. How about a little, how about some Patrick Williams,

Speaker 2 the rookie for the Bulls, who has, by the way, one of my favorite new nicknames, the Paw. Why is he the Paw? He's like the Claw.
He's like Kawhi, but he's the Paw.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 2 Stacey King's been calling him the Paw. I kind of like that.
Yeah, isn't that nice?

Speaker 4 Paws only have, they've only got the three fingers and the thumbs.

Speaker 2 They're huge.

Speaker 4 JPP should be the huge.

Speaker 2 Paws. The paws.
Yeah. Paw.

Speaker 2 And it's Patrick Williams, I think.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I mean, that's cool. I wish that they would expand the field a little bit because right now it's like when tops used to come out with baseball cards, they'd have everybody on there.

Speaker 4 They'd have like even the bench players. They'd have the backup shortstop on there.
But now it's like just the stars on here. So I can't even find a deli.
They're no deli.

Speaker 4 Maybe they're like super expensive. They're like a black orchid magic card.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my entire investment strategy is to corner the market on Lou Dort. Okay.
So I'm putting everyone in the Dorture Chamber. We're going to buy all the Lou Dort.

Speaker 2 And then when Lou Dort wins MVP, everyone's going to be like, where are all the Lou Dort top shots? Oh, yeah. One guy owns them all.
I like.

Speaker 4 We got the Dorture Chamber. We got Matthew Skello Vedova.
It's going to work.

Speaker 6 fellas, we're going to be. I'm pretty leveraged with Market Smart right now.
Are you? We got a couple steals.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's just take a step back for a second. And I did make this point earlier today when Skeptic BitCat came out.
But, PFT, do you think there's a little bit, just a tiny bit?

Speaker 2 I made this point that we're in a pandemic. The economy, a lot of people are out of work.

Speaker 4 It's tough times for people.

Speaker 2 Do you think that the rise in get-rich quick schemes might have something to do with that?

Speaker 4 I think that we're going to see a lot more weird shit like this.

Speaker 4 This is actually, you know what? I actually think that the top shot is like the tipping point of the get-rich quick schemes because up until now, they've been remarkably successful.

Speaker 4 We've seen a lot of get-rich-quick schemes that have actually gotten a lot of people rich quick.

Speaker 2 Well, a lot of people have also lost money on GameStop and AMC and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Right, but I feel like right now is when we're hitting the time zone where the pandemic lasted long enough where people were cooped up in their houses thinking of these crazy ideas and then starting to develop them.

Speaker 4 Like eight months nine months later when they actually hit the market like think about the shittiest ideas you had about the world and things that sounded like a good idea to you in late march early april last year when you were riding a bike around manhattan riding a bike around manhattan in the rain uh starting a video game franchise with a fake character that would no one would ever watch that nope but like we did people did have terrible ideas about everything back then yep uh still do to this day and now those quarantine ideas those isolation ideas are now about to just flood the market.

Speaker 4 Right. So this might be the last of the good quarantine ideas to flood the market.
Regardless, when I see people spending $100,000 on gifts, I want to be a part of that ride.

Speaker 2 Yes. And I mean, I've seen Billy's mining.
What are you mining, Billy? You're mining. Hi.
Yeah. See, there's all kinds of things.
Every time I go back to my desk,

Speaker 2 Billy and Marty Mush and I'm not going to lump you in there, Hank. That's all right.
I'm in.

Speaker 2 Have a new scheme that's like, hey, this is the way, follow me to

Speaker 2 the land of yachts mansion.

Speaker 4 So I had an idea

Speaker 4 because people are getting really into figuring out different derivatives.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but that was like, those are like the guys in Wolf of Wall Street, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 Those guys went to jail, but they also got all of them.

Speaker 2 I like how it's like, you got to be a shark. You got to be like Jordan Belfort.
That guy was

Speaker 2 a crook and a criminal and a felon.

Speaker 4 But he also got laid. Like, those guys got still laid.

Speaker 2 He did. They got laid off, got laid.
They got laid on planes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They did qualoodes.

Speaker 2 It's not even the Mile High Club, I don't think, if you just fuck out in the open on a plane. No.

Speaker 4 This is sweet. So I was thinking that we got to have our own way of selling stock and stuff, right? Like the Green Bay Packers do it.
I'm an owner. I feel good about being an owner.

Speaker 4 I don't regret that investment.

Speaker 4 What if we sold stock in Billy?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 4 As his owners, couldn't we issue stock in Billy?

Speaker 2 You don't own me. Yeah, we do.
No, did you read your contract? You didn't read your contract. Oh, fuck.
Yeah. Talk into the mic.

Speaker 4 Billy, right now, Billy is... There's a bull market on Billy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, Billy's got Billy's got a little bit of shine on him. Billy's knocked out, Jose can say.

Speaker 6 Could strip away the parts, too. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Sell your gallbladder? Yeah. Uh-huh.
Your kidneys? My organs are probably

Speaker 2 pristine.

Speaker 9 I don't want to brag, but I probably have some pristine organs.

Speaker 4 We could bane capital you. We could be like a private equity firm.

Speaker 4 I bet your right hand could fetch, like, if we if we put it out there on the market, we're like, this right hand was a college quarterback at one point.

Speaker 8 It's over 10 inches. We should.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 4 We can transfer it to Trey Lance.

Speaker 2 Maybe just the fingers. We'll just sell the fingers.

Speaker 2 Pieces of Billy. Yeah, I honestly think collectible pieces of Billy.

Speaker 4 We could make money selling either pictures or actual parts of Billy. And we just blockchain it.
Yeah, we block. That's the tricky part.

Speaker 4 I don't know how to do the blockchain besides just saying like it's the blockchain. Right.

Speaker 2 It's just the blockchain. Can you combine it? It's HFTs.
Yeah. Can you get into it?

Speaker 6 If it's HFT, we're good.

Speaker 4 If you say something's blockchain, can somebody be like, that's fraud if it's not on the blockchain?

Speaker 9 Blockchain is what makes all these things possible to have any value because it almost makes them like a material good.

Speaker 4 The blockchain is God.

Speaker 8 Their history.

Speaker 2 HFT.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Billy's on the blockchain.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Pieces of Billy are up for sale.

Speaker 6 NFT.

Speaker 2 Come on, Hank. You're the guy that I'm trusting in all of this, and you can't even get whatever the NFT means.
Two out of three.

Speaker 4 No, Hank was thinking high-frequency trading, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 NFT is the whole re you. When I said, how do I know this isn't a scam? You're like, NFT.
Right.

Speaker 6 Non-fungible tokens.

Speaker 4 Fungible.

Speaker 2 God damn it. We're seeing how much we're living in the dumbest times.

Speaker 4 GIF is worth now.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 4 People get so mad, by the way, when you just call it a gif.

Speaker 8 Yeah. But that's...

Speaker 4 That's what it is. Yeah, it's.
You're buying a gift. It's a gift.

Speaker 6 Right. I mean, that's the thing.
It's like trading cards, the concept of trading cards also sounds sounds ridiculous. But with a trading card, you're buying a picture of someone.

Speaker 2 That's maybe, that's really where the skepticism came from. It's

Speaker 2 the inner dad in me where I'm like, I don't want to see you get hurt.

Speaker 2 Because I do think there's a little bit of a vibe, an undercurrent in the office where people think, I'm about to get fucking rich. I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 6 I don't think I'm going to get rich. I think I'm going to be in the market.

Speaker 6 I'm going to be, if the real values of you can get packs, you know, it's something you got to be in tune with, get in the raffles, hope to get lucky. I need a pack.
pack.

Speaker 6 I don't think I'm going to retire off this money, but I think I'm going to make this money work for me.

Speaker 4 Okay, here we go. Just listen to this.

Speaker 6 Rather than just, you know.

Speaker 4 This is the description of my gif, and that's why you hustle back on D.

Speaker 4 Los Angeles Lakers fan favorite guard, Alex Caruso, channels teammate LeBron James with this beautiful chase-down block on James Harden of the Houston Rockets during their Western Conference semifinal series on September 12th, 2020.

Speaker 4 That sounds like it's worth at least $700.

Speaker 6 You should get Mark Jackson to read it.

Speaker 2 Do you sell

Speaker 2 Jeff Fan Gunner? By the way, PFT, it's also the only time you'll get an NBA Finals game on September 12th. Good point.
Yep.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 James Harden playing in a, what, semifinal? Actually, like going for a layup in a semifinal instead of shooting.

Speaker 2 Or semi-finals. They're not finals games.
Yeah, instead of passing the ball? A playoff game in September 12th? What a moment. Yeah, Billy.
Quick question.

Speaker 9 Do you set the block to sell it, or is it a market price you have to sell it for the money?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Don't ask too many questions. The algorithm does it.

Speaker 2 The quick way to get me back out of top shot is when you ask me questions that I can't answer, and then I feel dumb again. So please, no more questions at this time.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's do hot seat cool throne. And we've got two interviews coming up, and then some good segments and guys on chicks at the other side.
Hank, hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is Grand Theft Auto.

Speaker 6 Illinois lawmakers, they want to ban Grand Theft Auto because there's been a spike in carjackings in Chicago. What?

Speaker 2 Okay, this is like Boomer.

Speaker 6 This is like 1992. We're about

Speaker 4 17 years too late.

Speaker 2 Right in this one. Yeah, I know.
Marilyn Manson, this is the Marilyn Manson thing where it's like he listening to his music makes you violent. Right.

Speaker 6 My other hot seat is Oklahoma football.

Speaker 2 Took a tough look.

Speaker 6 A tough look for the entire program. A much bigger Oklahoma football player getting smoked.
Also, you know, good thing for MMA, like a good advertising for MMA. Short kings.

Speaker 6 You know, you can beat up the big bad bully if you just do some MMA training.

Speaker 2 Do you think, so the video, if you haven't seen it,

Speaker 2 was essentially bar fight porn.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 like a you know, everyday Ben Askren versus

Speaker 6 college football bully.

Speaker 2 So do you think that there's part of the research?

Speaker 6 Because the fact the guy was wearing a turtleneck was perfect.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the part of the football team is like,

Speaker 2 he's a placeholder, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, is he? He's a wide receiver/slash holder.

Speaker 2 Holder, yeah.

Speaker 2 It definitely

Speaker 2 hurts the Oklahoma football brand to be like, watch this Oklahoma football player get beat up. It's like, but he's a placeholder.

Speaker 4 He's a specialist.

Speaker 4 He is a specialist. So the actual fight, the way it went down, there should have been a lot of red flags that came up for the holder.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 One, the kid that he was fighting, he just had wrestler's hair.

Speaker 4 That is a wrestler haircut and a wrestler smirk. Yep.
You should be able to, I could spot that a mile away.

Speaker 2 Two, he's already bleeding and he's smiling with the blow. And he's happy.

Speaker 4 Three, he's wearing cowboy boots, no cowboy hat.

Speaker 4 That's the opposite of what I'm doing. Like, if you see me in a bar, you want, like, I am the perfect person for you to fight.
Right.

Speaker 4 But if you see a guy who's wearing just the boots, not trying to show off with a cowboy hat, that dude is in,

Speaker 4 he will fuck you up. He will throw you into a grain combine.

Speaker 2 Four,

Speaker 2 when he turned to his buddy and said, which one do you want? Yeah. That should have been a quick de-escalation.

Speaker 2 My bad, guys, because that was a line out of a Steven Seagal movie where they just start ripping people's hearts out of their chest.

Speaker 8 Five, and most importantly.

Speaker 2 Does he look like he was on steroids? Cauliflower ears. Yes.

Speaker 7 That is the number one.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. That is David.
That's actually one. Yeah, that's actually cauliflower ears.

Speaker 6 You might not have been able to see his ear, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I couldn't actually see the cauliflower ears. People said cauliflower ear.
I didn't see the cauliflower ear. You just assumed because I got to say that.

Speaker 2 That hair, I assume. That's like the oldest, that's the oldest rule in the book.
Like, if a guy has cauliflower ears, stay far away.

Speaker 4 Well, we actually discussed this, I think, a few years ago on the podcast, Big Cat, but it would be a great business idea for a clinic to open up that would give you cosmetic cauliflower.

Speaker 2 That's what they should do for the simp kid. Yeah, we call it, was it Beethoven? Yeah.
Who went deaf?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he got his ears boxing. Call it Beethoven's.

Speaker 4 Yeah, call it Beethoven's. Come to Beethoven's and you'll look tough as fuck.

Speaker 2 So, wait, those are hot seats.

Speaker 6 Those are my hot seats. My cool throwing is Bobby Smurda.

Speaker 2 Oh. Rapper.
Caught out of jail today. Back.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 9 The cat fell.

Speaker 6 Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 So big day. Big day for rap.
rap.

Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Huge day.
Huge day.

Speaker 2 I mean, we've been

Speaker 2 waiting for this day.

Speaker 4 Debaby didn't die, did he?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 4 Okay, somebody started that rumor on Billy's Twitch stream last night.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Jojo Siwa might come after him, so that could happen soon.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 4 My best Debaby story that I always tell is that I saw him landing a helicopter in a strip club parking lot.

Speaker 7 Wait, do you have multiple stories?

Speaker 4 No, that was Debaby.

Speaker 2 Do you have multiple Debaby stories?

Speaker 4 No, that's my best one.

Speaker 4 My second best one.

Speaker 2 Why is that you have multiple born?

Speaker 4 No, my second best one is right now when I got the baby confused with little baby.

Speaker 2 It's little baby. Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 What's the difference between them?

Speaker 6 One is duh, one is little.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure I saw the baby. I don't think little baby could afford a helicopter landing in a strip club parking lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's a debaby. Oh, is it? Lil Baby's way bigger? Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's confusing.
You would understand why, like, the littlest baby being bigger than duh baby. Duh baby, there's only one.
He is the baby. I think there's a baby.

Speaker 2 Lil Baby, there's a lot of little babies. There's a T-H-A baby, too.

Speaker 2 Whoa.

Speaker 2 A lot of babies. Okay.
What about Big Baby?

Speaker 6 That's Glenn Davis. He's retired.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
Good point. All right.
PFT?

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Daniel Snyder, the owner of the Washington football team, because it sounds like Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, wants to buy the Washington football team, wants to become the majority owner of the team.

Speaker 4 So there's some reports. There's a lot of...
You know what there is? There's a ton of scuttlebutt out there. There's chatter.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of chatter that Jeff Bezos has been in discussions with different financing groups. Although I don't know why he would need to like involve anybody else in this process.

Speaker 2 If you're none of them paying the world,

Speaker 4 they all just get financed. I guess so.
But like that's kind of a beta move.

Speaker 4 If you're the richest person in the world and you choose to waste time financing a sale when you could just like write one check, hand it to him.

Speaker 2 I don't know if he could. I never understand this stuff.

Speaker 2 When I see people with roses in their Twitter username being like, if Jeff Bezos just emptied out his savings account, he could, you know, cure world hunger. I don't think that's how it works.

Speaker 2 So he, I don't think he's liquid like that. Right.

Speaker 6 Well, he's like Top Shot. He's got a bunch of cards.

Speaker 2 I think actually, if he did get liquid, it would like crumble the world's markets. Right.

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, I think that part's real.
Like, if he went to the bank and he was like, I'll take 80 billion.

Speaker 2 And he also wants to, like, if he's like, I want to sell all my stock and cash out everything. Yeah.
I think think the whole world would be a good thing.

Speaker 4 Okay, so yeah, it does make sense that he would have to involve other people.

Speaker 2 Why use your money when you can use other people's money?

Speaker 4 Right. You don't get rich by not borrowing when interest rates are at historic lows.

Speaker 4 So he's trying to buy the Washington football team allegedly. Dan Snyder said he's not going to sell.
I believe him.

Speaker 4 I believe him too. But

Speaker 4 if Jeff Bezos, who is the richest man in the world, wants to pay like...

Speaker 4 six, seven billion dollars for an NFL franchise, if Dan Snyder doesn't want to sell, still at that point, you're going to see all the owners, all the rest of the owners in the league try their very best to push Dan Snyder out because that will make all of their franchises increase by like another billion dollars.

Speaker 4 So like these dudes, these rich dudes, they'll band together and they'll act as one when it's in all their interests.

Speaker 4 But when there's like 30 other dudes that are going to benefit and Dan Snyder is not, they're going to turn on Dan Snyder so quick.

Speaker 2 But the problem is, Dan Snyder probably knows some shit about every single owner that he could then just release.

Speaker 2 And Dan Snyder does feel like one, if you had to make a list of spite owners, he's probably at the top of it.

Speaker 4 So I would agree with you if we were talking about Jerry Jones, but Dan Snyder, I don't think he's smart enough.

Speaker 4 The people that he would hire to collect dirt on other people, I think would just end up being yes men and not do they'd just end up playing basketball and doing cocaine off each other's bodies.

Speaker 2 Okay, but here's another counterpoint, though. If you're Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder being in the division, you want to keep that there.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 rather having Jeff Bezos own a team and like put robots in charge of everything and automate it and win all the games.

Speaker 4 And Jeff Bezos would have access to all the Amazon web services, next-gen stats. That would be a great scouting department.

Speaker 4 So I will say I would much rather have, I really want Jeff Bezos to own the football team.

Speaker 2 I think everyone would want that.

Speaker 4 It's been my dream.

Speaker 4 It would effectively put an end to my dream of one day owning the team, but I would accept this and I would go far as to say I will only shop, I will only consume things that I buy from Amazon for Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 4 Brave. So, Jeff, that's another

Speaker 4 $3,000 in your pocket for the next year. That's a durable

Speaker 4 rice. A calendar year.
It's your call, Jeff. Do you want my money or not?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Court me, Jeff. My cool throne is accountability because the kid apologized to Cam Newton, the kid from the 7-on-7 camp.

Speaker 2 Said he was sorry. He was like the wheels are in motion.

Speaker 4 Said he was very sorry about it.

Speaker 2 And now Cam's going to mentor him.

Speaker 4 Cam might bring him him under his wing. Cam's absolutely going to meet up with this kid.

Speaker 2 You think? Yeah. No, so I looked into this.

Speaker 9 Cam Newton talks a lot of shit at these 7-on-7 camps. Right.

Speaker 2 A ton.

Speaker 9 So honestly, if he was talking shit to that kid and that kid came back at him,

Speaker 4 take what you dish out.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I don't feel bad for Cam anymore.

Speaker 4 I actually think that the real problem here is 7-on-7 football. I think that

Speaker 4 the kid's not afraid of getting pancaked by a defensive tackle. And then he learns that there are no consequences in life.
Next thing you know, he's talking shit to an all-pro quarterback.

Speaker 9 No, 7-on-7 is beautiful. It gives you the reps and the passing game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you hate linemen, but when you hate the real beauty of the game like us,

Speaker 9 it's extra on top of that. 7-on-7 is a beautiful concept.
I don't know about that, Billy.

Speaker 4 I love 7-on-7. You don't like running? You don't like a power rushing attack?

Speaker 2 He doesn't like being rushed.

Speaker 9 Well, that's a different...

Speaker 9 There's sometimes

Speaker 9 not game modes, but like formations where it's solely running.

Speaker 4 I like old school football with big uglies up front.

Speaker 4 I like Wisconsin versus Stanford games.

Speaker 2 With Army watching. Yeah.

Speaker 4 In the stands.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Army providing security. Yes.

Speaker 2 Sen-on-sounds awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think that it is going to happen. I think Cam is going to absolutely reach out to this kid, take him under his wing.
But still, if I were Cam,

Speaker 4 that was your one chance to just clock a kid. Yes.
And no one would have ever blamed you.

Speaker 4 Honestly, I had this debate over the weekend. I've been thinking a lot about it.

Speaker 4 I think that I could beat up any 10-year-old in the country.

Speaker 4 Probably the world. World.

Speaker 4 I don't think that there's a 10-year-old in the world whose ass I couldn't get.

Speaker 6 Okay, so. Nope, I already disagree.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I disagree.

Speaker 4 Have you seen a 10-year-old receiver?

Speaker 2 No, all right. So I'm going to throw some out there.

Speaker 6 I'm going to throw somebody out there. You saw this kid boxing with Will Perry.

Speaker 4 I did a Google image search of world's strongest 10-year-old.

Speaker 2 Okay, all right. And there's TFT little bitches.
Let me just throw this out there. We've had Aaron Donald on the show.
Last time didn't go so well.

Speaker 2 We've had DK Metcalf on the show, who's great. Those guys both said that they were benching insane amounts of weight at 10 years old.

Speaker 4 Not at 10 years old.

Speaker 2 Let me throw another one at you.

Speaker 4 Khabib. I'm stronger.

Speaker 2 Khabib was wrestling bears when he was like seven.

Speaker 4 But they were the friendly bears that were.

Speaker 2 There's a kid. The bears in Russia are like just squirrels on college campus.
They're sitting there in Turgestan or one of the stands that could kick your ass.

Speaker 4 Not at 10 years old. I think I could beat up any 10-year-old in the entire world.

Speaker 4 They got small little bones. I'd outweigh almost all of them, if not all of them.
Now, once you bump it up to like 12, then there are a ton of those kids that could kick my ass.

Speaker 2 How old is Kendrick Perkins kid?

Speaker 4 Pre-puberty, I could defeat any 10-year-old in the world.

Speaker 2 How old's Kendrick Perkins kid? That kid's a fucking

Speaker 2 kid. He'd kick your ass.

Speaker 10 The violet from last January, he was in second grades, which means he'd be in third grade now.

Speaker 2 He's taller than you in second grade. Third grade is like...

Speaker 4 Wait, how tall is he?

Speaker 2 He's like 5'10. And

Speaker 2 Billy could. Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's enormous.

Speaker 4 But he doesn't have the aggression. He's a 10-year-old.

Speaker 2 I think he might. No, no.

Speaker 4 Kendrick Perkins put it in him. No, I would kick Kendrick Perkins' son's ass.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 January. He's nine now.

Speaker 6 Dude, this is a good one. This kid might be older than 10, though.

Speaker 2 This kid would fuck you up.

Speaker 2 Even if he's older than 10, a year ago, he would fuck him up.

Speaker 4 No, no, because then that's when you really hit your growth.

Speaker 9 I'm going to be honest, a 10-year-old wrestler could definitely take you down.

Speaker 2 Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 You look like the OU.

Speaker 4 I'm way better at wrestling than I am at fighting.

Speaker 4 I would submit that kid. I would smother him.
This kid would fuck you up.

Speaker 4 I would put him in a fucking full Nelson, Nelson, make him cry for his mom.

Speaker 2 All right, my hot seat is.

Speaker 4 Not that I want to do any of that, but I'm saying

Speaker 4 if it's like, you know, Andy Kaufman was the intergender wrestling champion of the entire world, like, I could be

Speaker 4 the child man

Speaker 4 boxing champion of the world.

Speaker 2 I mean, people forget I am actually the

Speaker 2 belt holder in women's arm wrestling. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So. Oh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's not a big, not a brag. It's a fact.
I won the belt.

Speaker 2 Fact.

Speaker 2 Strong man. Strong.

Speaker 2 She actually said that to me after. She's like, you feel like a big, strong man now.
I was like, yeah, actually, I do. Like, totally.
I got a belt. All right.
Hot seat, us,

Speaker 2 Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen have a podcast. I think this is the end of the, I think this is the end of the bubble.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is it actually called Born in the USA?

Speaker 2 I don't know, but it is. That would be a great name for it if it's in a great troll by Barry.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is the end. It's the end of the bubble.
I would say, wouldn't you put it out there?

Speaker 2 Like, if you had to, if five years ago I asked you what would be the apex of podcasting, I think it'd be Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen doing a podcast.

Speaker 4 And his fucking show came out on the same day as my new show.

Speaker 2 What do those guys even talk about? Like, so you're really rich.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think the first one they did like a deep dive on Alex Jones.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 Damn it.

Speaker 4 What if that's what it was and Obama was like, well,

Speaker 4 he was right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You're right, you're right.
Fuck, that's

Speaker 2 what I was like, oh, man. Then my cool throw is Bartell Cologne because he hit a fucking dinger and didn't touch home plate, but that doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he talks about it with Whitney, but like the settings and the aesthetics of that home run made it a million times better. Like they're in the middle of a jungle.

Speaker 2 Yes. Bartell Cologne is going to be like a folk hero.
I hope we just get these videos from him every three years for the next 40 years.

Speaker 2 Could he just come back?

Speaker 8 Oh, he might be able to come back.

Speaker 4 I bet you could give you some innings.

Speaker 4 Was that his inter-family annual baseball game? Like how they do the turkey bowl. It's just his secret family versus real one.

Speaker 2 Yes. Billy, go ahead.

Speaker 9 My hot seat's Meek Mill.

Speaker 9 Vanessa Bryant is very angry at Meek Mill for some of his leaked lyrics.

Speaker 9 And those lyrics are...

Speaker 2 Cool topic, Billy.

Speaker 4 What? No, go off.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and if I ever lack, I'm going out with my chopper. It'd be another Kobe.
So he's in very hot water for those lyrics. And El Chapo's wife has been arrested for drug charges.

Speaker 2 Billy's. What'd she do? Billy's learning, by the way.
Billy's learning that if he just picks the least funny topics, we won't steal them.

Speaker 2 That's true. That's very true.
Meek Mill has made insensitive remarks about Kobe Bryant, and Kobe Bryant's widow, grieving widow, is upset. That is my topic.

Speaker 4 What if Billy became our Tom Rinaldi? He did like every sob story just so that we couldn't make genius.

Speaker 2 He's genius.

Speaker 4 Yo, by the way, El Chapo's wife's mugshot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hot.
Yeah, pretty good. Hot.

Speaker 4 Can you say that? No, you know, you can't.

Speaker 2 Dude, you live like right next to me. Attractive, don't you? Attractive.
Oh, yeah, he is in Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 Is he still in Brooklyn? No, they probably... I think they sent him out to

Speaker 4 the Alcatraz of the Rockies. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Remember that? He's in Denver somewhere. No, respectfully, I think she's...

Speaker 2 Listen, it's hard to look good in a mugchot. She looked good.

Speaker 2 My cool throne is.

Speaker 4 She's also probably ride or die.

Speaker 2 Oh, you think? Yeah. I don't think there's a...
There's no more ride or die. I think that's actually the option.
Yeah. You either ride or you die.

Speaker 4 True. She's ride.

Speaker 9 My cool throne is Stephen Adams. He recently has moved to New Orleans and has taken up work

Speaker 9 work farming worms. He says it completes the cycle.
He bought five pounds of night crawler worms and he now estimates to have over 20 pounds of worms which he uses to recycle his food leftovers.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 9 He says that the recent cold snap has been really terrible for production, but he says that he's really enjoying his new home in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's great.

Speaker 4 I would imagine that the Stevens Adams families,

Speaker 4 Stephen Adams family that lives in New Zealand, would be like Billy would probably worship them as gods because they're all like, I think they average somewhere between six foot seven and six foot ten in height.

Speaker 4 Yep. They're all like 300 pounds.
And his sister even

Speaker 4 is one of the bigger ones because she's strong as shit. She's a shot putter in the Olympics.

Speaker 4 And so it's a family of like nine giants that just roam the plains of New Zealand and they do cool stuff with animals. I feel like that's like your ideal situation.
That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we should, I want to introduce you to them.

Speaker 4 We actually do need to get Stephen Adams on this show. He's been one of the people that we've wanted on forever.

Speaker 9 And he's so down to earth.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's such a chill guy.
I would love him. Yeah, he's literally a worm form.
Yeah, you can't be more down to earth.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 9 That's yeah. It's D.

Speaker 2 Very good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's how many Kate Upton boobs, Billy.

Speaker 2 Billy got into the interview. All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 Let's get to our interviews. We got Max Homo first, and we have Arian Foster.
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Hello, Fresh cuts out what?

Speaker 8 What about Jake?

Speaker 2 We sometimes do it, sometimes don't, depending on how long it goes. Just depending on the show.
Yeah, I'm always ready.

Speaker 2 But no worries.

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Speaker 2 Start the Zoom call, but I got to ask again for the people.

Speaker 2 You give your caddy, what, 10%?

Speaker 2 Have you thought about maybe bumping it up because he gave you a little extra? Oh, no, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 Are you still there?

Speaker 2 I'm here. Oh, okay.
Oh,

Speaker 2 the computer changed. The computer changed.
Can you take a look?

Speaker 2 You're still there.

Speaker 11 I feel like I should be talking like this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, no. you actually sound way better this time, but the computer just changed.
All right, there we got you. All right, 1.67 million.

Speaker 2 Your caddy did get you out of that tree shot, right? So you're not going to give him a little more than 10%?

Speaker 11 Yeah, like I'm just not probably.

Speaker 9 I may buy him a beer, but

Speaker 11 yeah, I love Joe, but unfortunately, he agreed to 10%.

Speaker 11 He should have agreed to like 10% plus.

Speaker 11 But I think he's fairly happy. So I think we'll be be all right.

Speaker 4 It's a decent payday for him. And everybody was rooting for you.
I don't think that, I mean, obviously, you know, Tony is a very likable guy, and a lot of people are pulling for him too.

Speaker 4 But like, at least on my Twitter feed, I saw just a bunch of people that have gotten to know you from Twitter, just very excited to see you excelling like this.

Speaker 4 And you've been playing really good golf the last several weeks. So it was awesome to see you win.
Who was the coolest person that you saw wish you congratulations? Was it Big Cat or Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 11 It's tough.

Speaker 2 You gotta pick one. You gotta pick one.
It's not tough, Max.

Speaker 4 Just say Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was definitely Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 Fuck that guy. Fuck that guy.

Speaker 2 He didn't mean it. You know, he didn't mean it.
He did not mean it. He just said it because it was cool to say.
He didn't pick one.

Speaker 11 It totally sounded like he meant it.

Speaker 2 I actually didn't congratulate you. I just said, let's go.

Speaker 11 Fair. DFD kind of congratulated me by telling me I'm no longer a man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I took your man card. You were crying on national television.

Speaker 11 I know, so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so, all right. So, uh, the 18th, I want to talk about that real quick.

Speaker 2 My theory is you fucked up that putt because at some point in a tournament, you at least have the thought pop in your head: like, man, I've roasted a lot of people on Twitter, wonder what they're saying right now.

Speaker 2 Is that is there any truth to that?

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's that, that's 100% what I was thinking. I was like, I'm a, I feel like I'm a philanthropic guy.
I got to give something back to the community.

Speaker 11 Here's a, here's an olive branch of me sucking. Uh, and you guys can all just have fun with it.
Also, I was thinking about this yesterday.

Speaker 11 The Dodgers took, I don't know, six years to figure out how to put together with a lot of,

Speaker 11 I don't know, relatable moments like that. So I was like, oh, maybe I'll throw in, throw in one more just absolute blunder and see if I can get myself out of it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you did overcome that adversity. And after you missed that putt, I was just like, oh, no, there's no way that this is happening because you got to be able to bounce back like super fast.

Speaker 4 How long did you give yourself to be like upset and

Speaker 4 mad at yourself for missing that putt? And how long did it take you to like snap back in and be like, okay, I can do this. I can actually win the tournament.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was weird. I actually got out of it pretty quick.
I kind of laughed. I told my, I told Joe I choked and he's like, no, you're good.
Like, we'll go win it on in the playoff.

Speaker 11 So it kind of didn't. It didn't sit with me.
I was just more,

Speaker 11 I was more like embarrassed

Speaker 11 because like Tiger Woods is up there on the hill. He's about to give out the trophy and he's like the clutchest human ever.

Speaker 11 So I was like, man, you know, that's not a great look in front of, in front of him.

Speaker 11 But I don't know. I felt so calm yesterday.
It was, it was hard to, to, it was hard to lose like that edge I had. And even one, you know, one bad putt, it didn't feel like it changed everything to me.

Speaker 11 And it was pretty fun to. I'd never been in a playoff before, so I had to kind of see what that was like.
You know, I just got to test the waters.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you you should actually give your caddy more just because him saying like oh no you're good because you did choke that was a choke putt hell yeah i said i tweeted right away i was like oh no max how the hell can you come back on twitter like if you lost that

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 you get shut it down. There is that part of it.
So does it ever think, do you ever think about like, is your mind wander at all playing 72 holes?

Speaker 2 Like, are there times when you're playing and you just are thinking about something else? Or is it laser focus?

Speaker 2 It's impossible to have laser focus for 72 holes, right?

Speaker 11 No, dude, I have, I never break my focus. No, I'm just playing.

Speaker 11 I space out.

Speaker 11 I definitely didn't think, I will say, I guess this is this is good for me because typically I would, I did not think about getting roasted on Twitter after I choked on 18.

Speaker 11 However, I do think about that at times when I hit like a really bad shot. I'm like, oh no.
I mean, I've been, I've, I've put myself out there. Like, I, I unfortunately deserve it.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 So I was, uh, I never thought about that. But yeah, had I lost that, that would have been a long, I think I just have to unsubscribe from Twitter.

Speaker 11 I might just have to become like a TikTok influencer or something.

Speaker 2 No, I think the move is if that ever happens, if you ever find yourself in that situation, I think you come back on Twitter right away and you just start talking about something totally different.

Speaker 2 Like be like, who's pumped for this Nets Clippers game tonight? And just ignore it. That's the way to deal with it.
And just let everyone else, because people will roast you no matter what.

Speaker 2 But if you play into it being like, no, I'm here to just tweet every fucking dribble of this game. They'll catch on and then you become a hero again.

Speaker 11 That's actually a really good angle. Yeah.
Just become like the sports better guy on Twitter. Be like, oh, I love the Nets plus minus six and a half tonight.

Speaker 2 It's a lock of the century five-star play.

Speaker 4 That's actually a genius idea to become a sports tout because then every bet that you miss, that's what people are talking about. Like, wow, Max really sucks at gambling.

Speaker 4 Everyone forgets about the fact that you missed that put on him.

Speaker 2 What a loser. Yes, yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 4 The shot, the tree shot, you alluded to it earlier. When I saw saw the ball next to the tree, I was like, if I was Max, I would say that it's impacted, that the ball is just sunk into the ground.

Speaker 4 Maybe call over rules official after you already move it. Like, how does that play out? Like, when you're talking about the strategy with your caddy, how do you guys decide what to do in that moment?

Speaker 11 That's a great question.

Speaker 11 Yeah, didn't think it

Speaker 11 plugged.

Speaker 11 Didn't really. try that angle.

Speaker 11 He didn't really know what I was trying to do. He thought I was just trying to hit it like right of the green and then hopefully make a long putt or chip it in or whatever.

Speaker 11 And I had this weird feeling I was going to be able to hook it. So we kind of talked it out, but on shots like that, I feel like in that situation, it was kind of like

Speaker 11 you just got to trust me a little bit. And I don't know how to explain what I'm about to do, but it might be cool.
So just, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Just trust me for once. Yeah, I like that.
Send it. So you said that was the first time you were in an overtime playoff.
Did you

Speaker 2 talk to Tony Final after? Like it was just the quick handshake and that's it? Or do you see him after in the clubhouse or anything?

Speaker 11 No, I didn't get to talk to him. I mean, I like Tony.
Tony's like, like you said, PFT, he's like a fan favorite and a player favorite. He's the greatest dude.

Speaker 11 And I know he's not had a lot of luck winning. He's played some amazing golf.
So

Speaker 11 I felt. his pain a little bit,

Speaker 11 but

Speaker 11 I didn't, you know, there's not a lot to say at that point but um i mean he's a insanely good golfer um i was i was fortunate obviously to come out yesterday on top but i mean it was it's weird it's weird like when you i i like golf like when i when i i watch golf at home on at times i keep up with it and like root for somebody like tony all the time then all of a sudden you're in a playoff with the dude and you kind of have to be in the front row seat it's a it's a it's a kind of a weird juxtaposition there's a big word for you and um i don't know

Speaker 11 I did not suck. I'd be long if I said, oh, I was really bummed out, but I mean, it was, it was a weird feeling.

Speaker 2 Well, and I asked that just because, you know, with golf, a lot of times

Speaker 2 a guy will win, and the person he's playing with is not even in the hunt. You know what I mean? Like, you fall back or whatever.
So it's not this, like, hey, we're actually shaking hands.

Speaker 2 I beat you one-on-one here. But when you get to the playoff, you do have that moment.
It's got to feel a little out of the ordinary because that's not how it usually goes with golf.

Speaker 2 You beat the field. It's not, oh, I just beat you one-on-one and now we're shaking hands.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's like the, it's not like the who was at Harbaugh and the coach of the lions

Speaker 11 like chest bumped. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was sick.

Speaker 11 Golf needs more of that. Just have people bodying each other.

Speaker 2 Yes. I like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you tweeted afterwards. You said, I spent over a dozen years trying to get Tiger to give me a high five at Riviera, and today he handed me a trophy.
Ha ha, what a world. Hashtag golf.

Speaker 4 First of all, great job using the hashtag golf. You are an expert on Twitter, obviously.
And then, second of all, did you get a high five from Tiger or did he, did he just give you the trophy?

Speaker 11 Uh, actually, I did not get a high five. I got, you know, the fist bump.
Um, but it was cool, man.

Speaker 11 Uh, yeah, the little tech golf that is like the easiest way to get, I think, attractions in the golf community. I got a podcast with my buddy Shane Bacon, uh, called Get a Grip.

Speaker 11 So we started this hashtag golf thing, and it's like the dumbest but simplest thing because I mean,

Speaker 11 you done anything.

Speaker 11 If you just say, like, hey,

Speaker 11 Christian Yelich hit a home run, like hashtag baseball. Yeah.
The normal people are going to think it's funny. And then, like, kind of the diehards are going to be like, oh, nice.

Speaker 11 I could search hashtag baseball and find this tweet about Christian Yelich's home run.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 it was kind of one of those things where it's like, I came full circle. I've watched that dude play at that golf course like a million times.

Speaker 11 And then to be like standing on a green while he's like, hey, congratulations, you won. I was like, yeah, this is not, this is not how I saw all this going, even as like a kid.

Speaker 11 It's still, it's, it was super surreal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would imagine so. So I have to ask,

Speaker 2 can you win the masters this year?

Speaker 11 We're asking a lot of good questions there, big cat.

Speaker 11 I think I have a better chance than I did last year.

Speaker 2 But so, but that was a zero chance.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so I think, you know, I talk about being 1% better. So maybe we're one, two percent now.
I think we're climbing. We're definitely trending.

Speaker 2 So you can, you can actually win the masters.

Speaker 11 I can win the masters. It's definitely possible.

Speaker 2 i'm gonna try super hard wait are you in it do you do you get invited yeah because you won this tournament or no yes oh so that so what else comes with it i love how this golf like i love the like if you win this tournament then you get invited to this tournament so what did you get outside of the 1.67 million dollars not to brag

Speaker 11 yeah well yeah i mean the 1.67 is sweet um

Speaker 11 I got, well, I won a car.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 11 I got into the tournament next week or this week. So I gotta, I gotta fly out to Florida.

Speaker 2 No, no, don't wanna play Puerto Rico. Don't Puerto Rico.
Don't play. Don't want to win that max.
No, it's not Puerto Rico.

Speaker 11 It's the one that's the

Speaker 11 like the

Speaker 11 main event. Okay.
Puerto Rico is the other one.

Speaker 2 Don't want Puerto Rico. Don't win that one.
Yeah. Do you guys? Yeah, I'm not planning on it.

Speaker 4 Do you guys actually talk about that? Because we just learned about that last night.

Speaker 2 And we were also, I was also wrong. I know.

Speaker 11 I noticed that when you guys tweeted, I couldn't believe it because it's been like an inside like golf world joke. And then Victor Hovlin broke it this year.

Speaker 11 And it's been like a, it's been kind of like a known, untalked about thing for a while. And I saw you guys tweet about it.
And I was like, oh, no, this is getting a lot of traction.

Speaker 2 Yes. All right.
So you're not playing Puerto Rico. So you got a car.
You got the next tournament. What else did you get?

Speaker 11 I don't know. My wife got me Chick-fil-A today.
So that counts as like a bonus.

Speaker 4 That's great. Did you get

Speaker 2 like a parking spot at the golf course?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I just have to carry around my own sign and put it up after I park.

Speaker 2 Wait, do you get do you get to do the do you get to play in the Genesis Open for life? Do you get like that?

Speaker 11 I gotta, I'll text, I'll text my best friend Tiger now

Speaker 11 and see and see if that, yeah, see if I'm allowed now.

Speaker 4 Okay. How does that work when you win a free car? Like, did you have to sit down and fill out paperwork yesterday in order to drive it home, get it registered?

Speaker 11 I haven't seen any paperwork. I'm starting to think I'm not getting it.

Speaker 4 The car's not real.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It seems like, hey,

Speaker 11 yeah, maybe there's his bonus

Speaker 11 outside of 10%. He gets this fake car that I've been promised.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 All right. So what so the masters a couple weeks away or no, it's a couple months away.

Speaker 2 Do you are you in the U.S. Open now?

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fuck yeah, dude. You're like a legit golfer now.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 Is it too serious? I'm in this dream.

Speaker 11 Every year I have a New Year's resolution to be better at golf than I am at twitter and i really think i'm getting close yeah i would say so i would agree with you on that or is it too soon to start talking about the ryder cup

Speaker 11 i don't think it's ever too soon pft um we might as well get the buzz out there they give captains picks so uh i could start i could start my plea for a captain's pick uh give it a shot see you know you gotta gotta throw some bait out there and just see if uh Captain Stricker will

Speaker 11 kind of saddle himself up with me. But I don't know.

Speaker 11 That's one one that wasn't really on my radar until like late last year. And now that'd be crazy.
There's buzz.

Speaker 11 Yeah, there's a, there's, you know, there's a little buzz. I think we got a little, we got a little traction.
Um, so hopefully, keep playing some good golf.

Speaker 11 But uh, right now, um, just kind of got to keep doing the same stuff I've been doing because it's been, it's been working pretty well.

Speaker 4 I think it's fair to say you are playing the best golf of anybody on tour right now, right? You just won.

Speaker 11 Yes, yes, technically speaking, I am.

Speaker 4 What about that?

Speaker 2 I am playing the best golf. What have you done for me lately, League? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I forgot to practice today. So I guess maybe somebody practiced today.
Now they're ahead of me.

Speaker 11 I don't know how the, yeah, what have you done for me lately, crew would think right now, but I get to play this week so I can stay on pace.

Speaker 11 And hopefully, I mean, I'm sure if I shoot only one under on Thursday, I'll get yelled at for sucking. But that's kind of the, comes with the territory.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what about the approach shot that you hit on 18? Because I don't think that people are talking enough about that because you stuck that within two and a half feet. You won the tournament.

Speaker 4 You just didn't know you were going to choke it away.

Speaker 4 But that shot was the clutches shot that no one's going to talk about from now on. Like you kind of got a little bit gipped on that.
That should have been your signature moment.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I screwed that up myself.

Speaker 11 I'm kind of glad they're not talking about this shot as much because then they'd have to talk about what happened right after that shot.

Speaker 11 So back to the, you know, taking attention away from the choking part.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I don't really mind that they're avoiding the 18th hole hole fiasco.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay. Wait, are you in the open championship now? I'm looking at yeah, you are you're in all this shit.
How does that work? What did you trigger?

Speaker 8 It's is the Genesis Open carry that much?

Speaker 11 No, it's it's world it's world ranking stuff.

Speaker 2 Got it. So you're 38th ranked right now, and that bumped you up to a point where now you're in all these tournaments?

Speaker 11 Basically, I think you got to be top 60, and there's not enough time for me to get out. I don't know.
It's something like that.

Speaker 2 Okay, you're it.

Speaker 4 So you you can't possibly screw it up. I was going to just recommend you stop playing.

Speaker 2 Yeah. If you miss every cut, you're still in.
That's what you're saying. Hopefully.

Speaker 11 I'll do the math, and if that's possible, I might just sit at home for a few weeks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's what I have to do.

Speaker 4 Probably why we're not like elite athletes, but that's me and Big Cat's mentality.

Speaker 2 We're just trying not to drop in the rankings. Nobody move.
We got to this point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm with that. I like that.

Speaker 2 All right, Max. My last question was:

Speaker 2 since we've had you on last, the Dodgers had a big free agent signing with Trevor Bauer. Are you a little nervous, though, that you now are the second biggest dick on Twitter in the Dodger community?

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 It's good thoughts.

Speaker 11 Yeah, we got, I saw a guy in a fight the other day with Noah Syndegaard. But I like that fire.
Trevor went to

Speaker 11 my rival high school. So I was like grow up.
like hating how good he was at baseball. So it's nice to be on his team now.
It feels, it feels good.

Speaker 2 But I guess the Dodgers got a, you know a little better uh feels kind of this one feels kind of dirty but i'll take it yeah no i mean we've had trevor on a couple times people don't like him i think he's funny and fascinating he seems awesome yeah i mean he's different he's just like literally an internet troll that's great at pitching right and so that that irritates a lot of people but i think he's like he's genuine about it he's like yeah i think he even told us like i just do it for the lols yeah and hearing somebody say that in real life you're like dude you are you are a sentient reddit account right now you're just the biggest troll you're online he said that out loud yes he said that he said those words so you can't like hate yeah you can't hate on him it's like he's he is a guy who is built to be an internet troll as a living he just so happens to be able to throw a baseball really well i need to i need i need to put that into my like everyday jargon it's like i'm just no don't no do not do not it didn't sound cool at that point yeah you you just become like part electronics yeah do not do that yeah okay that's fair you know what you're you're right now you're you're like still a little drunk off the victory that you're like, I could do this.

Speaker 2 I could start saying lols and people will be cool with it. Don't.

Speaker 2 We'll be your sober test here. Yeah, no.
I think, yeah,

Speaker 11 when you got the hot hand, you just think you could kind of do anything.

Speaker 11 That's why I got friends like you guys tell me what I can and cannot do.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think you'll find your way. You've got a good head on your shoulders.
I do have two more questions, though.

Speaker 4 Like things that I'm always interested in about golf tournaments, when you win them, I'm always curious about the big checks. Did you get a big check?

Speaker 11 so i didn't i got one uh from the uh when i was on the web.com tour and it was awesome i was like oh this is so cool and like i i did not get one i was bummed that is a bummer i would i would demand we can send you a big check i would rather have the 1.67 like that is a big check

Speaker 2 yeah right so wait is that direct deposit or how does that work yeah tomorrow i check at like 8 a.m or something that's crazy and then i can't wait yeah that's just a refresh of your bank account.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, there it is. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you have, do you have notifications set up when stuff hits your account? You got to set that up. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Because that's

Speaker 11 when it's incoming. I got a little notification.
It's a little ding. And you're like, ooh, okay.

Speaker 2 Tomorrow is going to be like, okay. That'll be a great day for you.

Speaker 4 And then the other thing is they kept calling it your home course. How many home courses do you get as a golfer? Because I feel like I've heard of Tiger Woods having like three different home courses.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you get a lot. I would say that Rivier is definitely not my home course.

Speaker 11 I wasn't even allowed allowed to play there until my team played national championship in college when I was like 21, so definitely not my home course just from there.

Speaker 11 But I think in golf, they definitely throw that around. I'm pretty sure I live in Arizona now.
I'm pretty sure they'd say I have three home courses here. I probably got four in LA,

Speaker 11 and probably one random one somewhere else where, like, maybe I played when I was like a kid, or maybe my uncle played one time.

Speaker 11 So, golf, they definitely, we got a lot of bad, we got a lot of bad little sayings, and there's a lot of bad bad stuff going around about, you know, hey, he's so big, he could be a football player in the NFL or,

Speaker 11 you know, it's his home course. And you're like, well, he, you know, he's been here three times in his life.
So we got to, golf is kind of corny, but I don't know. They're doing their best.

Speaker 2 I love that stuff.

Speaker 4 That's the interesting part.

Speaker 2 Does anyone have the Masters, Augusta, as their home course? Freddie Couples?

Speaker 11 Probably Freddie Couples. I think for a while it was Vaughn Taylor Charles Howell, I think they said it was his home course.
I'm not sure if if that's true, but that's pretty sick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was Jack's home course, right? Well, yeah, you could just say that. Condoleezza Rice, Condoleezza Rice's home course.

Speaker 11 Patrick Reed, it is Condoleezza Rice's home course. I'm going to start.
I'll start saying it. It's my home course.
I got a better chance now winning if it's my home course, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I still don't think you have a good chance, but

Speaker 11 I have a chance, though, and you just got to remember.

Speaker 2 But do you? But do you?

Speaker 8 He does.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely. Like, I have a chance.

Speaker 4 I'm going to bet on you,

Speaker 4 and you better not let me down.

Speaker 11 i did bet on you and you let me down well all right just make sure you chirp at me if i do let you down but if i win wait no no no hold on max i didn't even bet on you to win i bet on you to make the cut oh i got i i i apologize

Speaker 11 i i set the bar low and you still went under it yeah you know that was that was a the limbo of a lifetime to miss a cut after After all that. But hey,

Speaker 11 I don't know. I can only go up from here.

Speaker 2 So that's kind of good. All right, I'm a believer, I'm just I, you know what?

Speaker 2 You need someone in your camp to be like, hey, you have no chance, so that way you can't have everyone be the best men, yeah, right.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you got to have people hold you accountable, give you bulletin board material. I mean, that's important stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 So there you go, zero percent chance, and I will be betting on you. Um, all right, well, Max, thanks, man.
We really appreciate it, and uh, good luck in Florida, not Puerto Rico, right?

Speaker 2 Don't double-up,

Speaker 2 hell no. All right, good luck next weekend in

Speaker 2 Florida, and

Speaker 2 we'll talk to you before the masters.

Speaker 4 Yeah, congratulations.

Speaker 2 All right, sounds good.

Speaker 11 Yeah, thank you. You guys are the best.
Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 All right. See you, man.

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Speaker 14 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 2 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Arian Foster.

Speaker 2 You can subscribe to Macro Dosing with PFT now. It is out on where you can get podcasts.
It comes out every Tuesday talking conspiracy theories, all kinds of cool stuff. We're going to do a

Speaker 2 Mount Rushmore of sports conspiracy theories. Before we do that, Aaron, can I ask you real quick, do you still know anyone in the Texans organization? And holy shit, is that a disaster?

Speaker 14 I do know people still there, and I do agree that it's a disaster, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Jack Easterby guy, he's quickly become one of my favorite people in all sports just because he's very clearly Rasputin, right? Like, he, I don't think he has any discernible talent.

Speaker 4 I watch a stand-up actually. He is very funny doing stand-up, being like, hey, have you ever noticed that people from California are like this, and then people from Texas are like this?

Speaker 4 It's pretty high-level shit. I love that guy.
He says, stand-up? Oh, yeah. You haven't seen it?

Speaker 14 I have not seen this. Oh, my God.
I got it.

Speaker 4 Can we put a clip of the stand-up in here, Hack?

Speaker 6 Sure, you're going to have to send me your favorite line.

Speaker 2 But then you go up to New York, right? You go up to New York, and I mean, you walk in the stadium, and as soon as you walk in, it's like, what you looking at?

Speaker 2 What are you looking at? I'm looking at the game. I mean, there's a game.
What are you looking at? What's up, kid? What you looking at, son? Not your kid, not your son.

Speaker 2 Just here for the game, brother. Like, chill out, man.
It ain't that serious, right? And then where I'm at, like, in Boston, right? Everybody says this phrase, and it's huge.

Speaker 2 It's like, yo, we got to go park the car.

Speaker 2 Like, we got to do what? What are you talking about? We got to go pop the car.

Speaker 4 It's amazing. So, yeah, he's like a stand-up stand-up comedian, but he's he's just like a guy that got the ear of the entire organization and they're just kind of turned it all over to him.

Speaker 4 Do you know anybody that works with Jack Easterby?

Speaker 14 No, the first time I heard of him was actually when Andre Johnson sent that tweet out and I got like thousands of like, yo, look at this because Dre don't really talk that much.

Speaker 14 And so they were, everybody's like, Jack Easterby has to go. And I was like, who the fuck is Jack Easterby? And I had no idea who he was.
I had never met him, never heard of him.

Speaker 14 And I guess he's like, I don't even know what his job title is, but I guess he's like running shit. I have no idea.
He went from the weirdest shit I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like Team Chapel to basically calling all the shots.

Speaker 14 I mean,

Speaker 14 I guess if you're going to do it, that's the guy to do it. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 He's so awkward.

Speaker 4 He's an extremely talented COD man, from what it sounds like. So I respect that.

Speaker 2 All right. So in the spirit of macro dosing, we're going to do our favorite sports conspiracy theories.
We all have one, then we'll pick the top four. So how do we want to start?

Speaker 2 Who do we want to start? You want to start PFT?

Speaker 2 Let's go PFT, Arian, Hank, Jake, Billy, and then I'll finish, and then we'll pick our top four from there.

Speaker 4 Okay, my conspiracy is the Kurt Schilling sock because there's actually like some smoke to that. There's some evidence that the blood on the sock was not actually blood.

Speaker 4 It was what, game six of the 2004 ALCS, and he was pitching like with an obvious injury. I think that part was real.

Speaker 4 I think that he had a heel, Achilles-type injury that he had just gotten sutures on. But then his foot started to leak.
It just like it took over his entire sock.

Speaker 4 He was bleeding so badly, he would have had to have like

Speaker 4 a six-inch gash on the back of his heel and pitched through the game.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? So, yeah, this one, I feel like this is a.

Speaker 2 Do you think that this, you actually think that it was a blow catch-up?

Speaker 4 I think that it was fake. Yeah, I think that was fake.

Speaker 4 So then 2007, the play-by-play announcer for uh the orioles was or the the color guy for the orioles was doug mirabelli and doug mirabilly said that it was paint that it was that it was red paint that he put on his sock he said that during a broadcast and then shilling was like you know he got really pissed off about it he was like it wasn't paint it was real blood but they still haven't tested the sock they need to you know what have the sock the hall of fame has a sock you know what yeah they should test they should they should say

Speaker 4 if we test the sock and it's all blood then kurt shilling can get in the hall of fame yeah i'd be willing to to do that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that there was probably like a little bit of blood on there, so there's probably like a kernel of truth to that conspiracy.

Speaker 4 But I do think that it's a shitload of paint that got put back there to make Kurt Schilling look like he was pitching his absolute balls off.

Speaker 2 But walk me through.

Speaker 6 So you're Kurt Schilling going into the biggest game of your entire life against the Yankees in Yankees Stadium, trying to make the greatest comeback. And like, you know, no one believes in you.

Speaker 6 You're focused on the game, but you you decide to think let me you know

Speaker 6 take time in between innings to get some blood and put it on my sock which is already injured like he was limping around he was clearly hurt yeah what part of why would he

Speaker 4 do that makes you think that he would be thinking about this from a rational point of view

Speaker 2 that is that is a good point kurt schilling definitely got crazier yes so that you you can't be like fully it's not today's kurt schilling but he was always a little bit crazy so when kurt schilling got to boss i would say more independent thinker.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's a free thinker.

Speaker 4 Nothing's out of bounds.

Speaker 4 When he got to Boston, people forget one of the very first things they did in Boston was he saw a drunk driver on the freeway and followed that person home on the phone with 911, being like, yo, there's a drunk person on the road, and I'm going to give you the location.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to leave until a cop comes up here. So that's

Speaker 4 you could make that argument that, like, maybe if the person was going to be a danger to themselves or others, that it was a good thing that he did.

Speaker 4 I could hear that argument, but then he went, he did a press tour afterwards and went on like every radio station in Boston. Was like, hey, I just narked on this drunk driver last night.

Speaker 4 Do you want to interview me about it? So he's always been a little bit off his rocker when it comes to that sort of shit.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, let's throw it in there.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's the first one. I mean, we're going to vote on the top four after this.
So bloody sock game.

Speaker 4 What do you think about that one, Aaron?

Speaker 14 Do they have the sock still? Is that like really a thing? Is the sock like somewhere?

Speaker 2 yeah i think it's in the hall of fame it's in cooperstown yeah the sock they got to test his sock yeah they have to test the sock that would be i mean

Speaker 2 it would be great theater to to to do like a big live stream of the the sock being tested

Speaker 4 so i'm telling you like like kurt shilling in if that if that sock is real and his his leg was leaking that badly during one of the most important playoff games in baseball history and he pitched that well i say that that should make the case for him to be in the hall of fame on his own yes i'd agree with with that.

Speaker 2 All right, so go ahead.

Speaker 14 What was his injury? What was his injury that they said that caused him to bleed like that?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was his Achilles ankle. He had just had like some sutures put in.
So

Speaker 4 he had a real injury, but they said that it was the sutures that started to leak. I've never seen, I've seen some pretty gruesome foot injuries in my day.
I actually survived one of my own.

Speaker 4 I've never seen a foot bleed like that from just stitches coming out.

Speaker 6 Loose angle tendon back into the skin.

Speaker 4 Emergency procedure.

Speaker 2 Doesn't sound great.

Speaker 14 So he had, so he had an Achilles, like I'm guessing, I'm guessing a tear or a partial tear or something.

Speaker 6 But the team doctors also didn't, like, it was done at the last minute, so like, they kind of, you know, hacked it together.

Speaker 2 Well, who did that? Which is why it was.

Speaker 4 It doesn't seem like a team doctor thing to do. Like, he went into the dugout and like Pedro Martinez rubbed some of that juice that they all sipped on over to try to give you more vitality.

Speaker 4 You remember that juice?

Speaker 4 I love the conspiracy about that juice. Which juice? But so before game seven, when they passed around that cup, they said it was whiskey.

Speaker 4 It was actually like a Dominican drink that is supposed to give you more vitality and increase your testosterone. It's got like herbs and weird shit in there that's supposed to basically

Speaker 4 give you boners when you go out onto the field. So I don't know.
Maybe they rub that on it to help it out. But I do think that that

Speaker 4 conspiracy theory is true. I think that there was paint at least mixed into the sock.

Speaker 2 Okay, so Arian, what's your sports conspiracy theory? We got one down.

Speaker 14 Right. All right.
So it's kind of like a conglomeration

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 14 conspiracies, but it's the same thing. So, Michael Jordan's gambling

Speaker 14 thing, right? Because

Speaker 14 a lot of things have

Speaker 14 manifested from it. So,

Speaker 14 like, the reason why he retired originally in 93

Speaker 14 was because he got suspended for gambling, right?

Speaker 14 And then, a little bit more like deep was that his father

Speaker 14 actually died because he was a gambling debt. Yeah.
And so it's like just the whole

Speaker 14 lore around Michael Jordan's gambling is intriguing.

Speaker 6 And that that caused him to retire from the league and play baseball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that David Stern sat him down and was like, hey, you have to take a step back because your gambling's out of control.

Speaker 14 I heard, I heard he got, well, I ain't heard, but I heard how this conspiracy goes is that that they actually suspended him, but they just kept it under reps because it would have been bad for the league.

Speaker 2 So, the only thing that doesn't, like, I wouldn't understand about that is

Speaker 2 that would eventually get out, right? Like, someone would talk about that. Like, that would be,

Speaker 2 yeah, you would.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 14 I was saying, I should have, I should have prefaced it, but I don't believe this shit. But there's just so much lore around.

Speaker 2 It's intriguing. It's one of those situations where Michael Jordan clearly loves to gamble.
His father was killed, murdered, and it was

Speaker 2 under weird circumstances. And then he...

Speaker 2 It feels like

Speaker 2 it's one of those conspiracy theories that there's enough

Speaker 2 elements that are truthful that I don't think he was actually suspended or told to quit basketball because of his gambling, but there's enough around it that is true that lets you be like, okay, maybe this was actually true.

Speaker 2 Which is actually the perfect, like, that's the perfect conspiracy theory has.

Speaker 4 I think the only way that

Speaker 4 it could have worked is if it was like David Stern and one of his top assistants found out from somebody who was close to whoever Michael Jordan owed the money to, found out like the ridiculous sum that it might have been.

Speaker 4 And then he had a one-on-one meeting with Jordan, told Jordan, and he's like, just say that you're retiring, don't tell anyone else.

Speaker 4 And then Jordan just acted like he was retiring and came back after he paid his debts off. Right.
That possibly could have worked out. But yeah, it was a bizarre set of circumstances for sure.

Speaker 2 And he clearly, I mean, he admitted himself.

Speaker 2 He had a competition problem.

Speaker 2 He didn't have a gambling problem. He had a competition problem.

Speaker 2 Totally different. Yes.

Speaker 14 Euphemism.

Speaker 2 I love it. Yes.
Yes. All right, Hank, your conspiracy theory.

Speaker 6 My conspiracy theory, just because I think this would be a great movie, especially if you involve the actual person.

Speaker 6 But Cal Ripken, in the middle of his streak, got in a fight with Kevin Costner, wasn't going to be able to play play because Kevin Costner was hooking up with his wife, and the Orioles said there was a power outage and canceled the game to keep the streak alive.

Speaker 2 Yep. Yep.
That's a great one. All-time conspiracy story.

Speaker 6 And imagine if they got Kevin Costner to, you know, be in the movie.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to play it. Wait, would he play Cal Ripkin? Because he loves playing athletes.
True.

Speaker 2 That would be great if he played Cal Ripkin. What if, okay.

Speaker 4 So that one, we had Cal Ripkin on the show a while ago, and we were told, like, don't ask the question about Kevin Costner and his wife going into the interview.

Speaker 4 And we didn't know the conspiracy or maybe we had heard of it but we definitely weren't going to ask him like hey did you catch Kevin Costner fucking your wife during our interview

Speaker 4 but they told us not to and he actually brought it up during the interview because we were talking about like weird theories about his streak and then he just volunteered all these reasons why it couldn't have been true like given the the time frame like where kevin costner was at the time and like the the time of the game and there's reports like he was in the dugout when the power outage happened Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he claims that there are people, although I'm sure that there were beat writers for the Orioles that would have had Cal Ripkens back. Exactly.

Speaker 2 The question is, Aaron, do you think that the Orioles were involved

Speaker 8 that orchestrated the power outage?

Speaker 2 Is there any person you ever played with that had the power to be like, I'm going to call the team and be like, we have to, I guess football is a lot different than baseball, but would you buy this at all in terms of how an organization is set up and a player having that type of power?

Speaker 14 No,

Speaker 14 because I think in order for that, maybe like a LeBron, right? He would have to like go to the head, like somebody like that, but definitely nobody in football.

Speaker 14 Football players

Speaker 14 are just viewed differently than basketball players and even baseball players. But I think you just have to have like an extremely like everybody would have to be involved

Speaker 14 because there's television networks. There's just contracts.
There's so much money involved. Like, I don't think cats, especially with a helmet, don't have that much pool.

Speaker 4 Not even, not even Matt Schaub,

Speaker 2 maybe Matt Shaub, maybe, yeah, maybe Matt Schaub.

Speaker 4 I like that one, though.

Speaker 14 Shout out to the guy, shout out to my guy, Matt. He just retired, man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 not necessarily. He said, on part of my take, he's not officially retiring yet.
He did say that. If he gets offered a contract, he might come back.

Speaker 14 Well, he got a fucking, he got a text from me for no reason.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, you might have to take that back.

Speaker 4 Forcind, hit the thumbs down on that text.

Speaker 14 I'm going to screenshot and post it.

Speaker 4 I'm like, bro, this is a lie, bro.

Speaker 2 What is this?

Speaker 2 All right, Jake, you're... No, no, no.
I had that. Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. You guys are fighting.

Speaker 2 I fight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jake. You took one of mine.
Jake took one of mine. All right, so go ahead, Jake.

Speaker 4 Jake, you go first. Jake, go ahead.

Speaker 10 Taking the Blackout Super Bowl between the hardballs.

Speaker 2 Oh!

Speaker 10 Billy, that's how it works. You have to be prepared with more than one.

Speaker 2 How do you not learn this? There we go, Jake. So

Speaker 2 what was the conspiracy theory behind that

Speaker 10 oh that it was a blowout and the nfl wanted to give some more that's right time to get the 49ers back in the game that's ended up kind of working yeah

Speaker 2 yeah so was that the beyonce halftime i don't know all right so wait now aaron let me ask this does the nfl have that type of power where they're they where roger goodell could hit a switch and black out the super bowl just so that they could keep people watching and get the 49ers back in the game They could.

Speaker 14 I do think they could, but I don't know why they would.

Speaker 14 Why would you do that? That is,

Speaker 14 I always, when I think about conspiracy, I always think about the why.

Speaker 8 Right. Like,

Speaker 14 and when you start doing the they, the them, the, then that's when it gets, but uh, I do think the NFL could. I mean, they literally covered up the Flake Gate.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 14 I don't know about that one, but they, they literally covered up concussion studies, right, and kind of tried to hide that. Like, so it's not,

Speaker 14 it's, it's, it's feasible that they would cover some shit up, but I don't know about getting the 49ers back in the game.

Speaker 2 I thought about that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so how would that work, though?

Speaker 4 Like, if you were Roderick Dell and you had the, let's just say there was a big light switch in front of you at halftime, and you saw that the Ravens were winning by double digits.

Speaker 4 Like, would it occur to you to flip that switch knowing that it's more likely if there's a longer halftime that the Niners are going to come out and play better in the second half?

Speaker 4 That doesn't make that much sense to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, Billy.

Speaker 9 So, the evidence to support that it was staged was that all of the

Speaker 9 dress rehearsals by Beyonce

Speaker 9 It took that exact same amount of power. The lighting was tested time and time again.

Speaker 9 So for them to say like, oh, we didn't know it was going to draw this much power and cause an issue is like they, that's the number one thing they test. Right.
And surge protectors.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Right. So that was like

Speaker 9 one of the reasons why it's kind of like, you know, if it's 28-6 and viewership is actually seriously tampering off.

Speaker 2 Let's block this thing out. And then everyone will be like, what's going on?

Speaker 9 Yeah, it was 28-6 with 13 minutes left in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 I wonder how many times that's happened in the Superdome, too. Yeah.
How many times have there been the lights have gone out in the Super Dome?

Speaker 2 Because it does, the lights going out in a stadium is not crazy.

Speaker 2 We've all watched a game where that has happened. Remember, it happened in the Monday Night Football game?

Speaker 2 I think it was the 49ers and the Steelers, maybe?

Speaker 4 I feel like it happens a lot in baseball because there's so many games. Yeah.
Like, at least once or twice a season. It's about as frequent as B delays.

Speaker 2 Right. Right.
All right, Billy.

Speaker 9 My conspiracy theory is going to be the Russian doping conspiracy that actually has a lot more truth.

Speaker 9 So the Sochi Olympics, the Russians were swapping out their piss and doing all sorts of stuff to cover up their athletes' doping, and this is the conspiracy part, to gain nationalistic pride in order to invade Crimea.

Speaker 9 Which there's a lot of evidence for.

Speaker 2 The athletes were going to invade?

Speaker 4 No, but

Speaker 2 Putin was putting it together. Yeah, is this a conspiracy theory, though? Because is it real? Well, there's a lot of reality.
Some conspiracies are true, though. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Got to throw it on a dart.

Speaker 4 So somebody had a great idea because we experiment with playing some music in the background of our podcast when we're talking.

Speaker 4 We think we're just going to play the serious music when Billy starts talking.

Speaker 4 Because Serious Billy came out on the podcast, and he's got all these theories, and he's dropping big words and shit on us.

Speaker 4 He actually gave Arian a little bit of perspective, didn't he, about what it's like to grow up as Billy football when you get pulled over by the cops for

Speaker 4 driving too fast because you're listening to Led Zeppelin. That was crazy.

Speaker 14 Absolutely. Yeah, that was that was

Speaker 14 I envy that, my brother, but next time I get pulled over, I'm going to ask the officer. Like, you have any podcasts to recommend that I don't make this mistake again, officer.

Speaker 2 I had to recognize that.

Speaker 4 Billy said he got pulled over because he was

Speaker 4 listening to Led Zeppelin driving too fast. And the officer pulled him over and was like, wow, you're listening to Led Zeppelin? Yeah, that makes me drive fast too.

Speaker 4 Tell you what, I recommend that instead of writing you a ticket, I'm just going to recommend that you start listening to podcasts instead while you drive. And Billy was like, thank you, officer.

Speaker 4 And he led him on his way.

Speaker 2 That didn't happen.

Speaker 2 It did?

Speaker 4 That did happen. 100%.

Speaker 2 Yes. 100% true.

Speaker 9 I got off.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you didn't answer my question, though.

Speaker 2 The whole story. What? It's true.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a good story. Okay.

Speaker 2 How the hell would I get on top of it?

Speaker 2 It is a great story.

Speaker 4 How else would I get onto podcasts?

Speaker 9 I got pulled over. I was like, I don't want to get a speeching ticket anymore, so no more loud, fast music.

Speaker 4 That's how he started listening to part of my take.

Speaker 2 Now I'm fucking here on this couch.

Speaker 2 All right, mine is going to be the Ronaldo at the World Cup in France in 1998.

Speaker 2 So this is like a two-parter because Ronaldo was best player in the world, having a great tournament, had a seizure out of nowhere right before the final.

Speaker 2 And so some people think he was drugged. Some Some people think that he was,

Speaker 2 there's like so many layers to this conspiracy theory. Some people thought he was drugged so that then Brazil wouldn't win, but then they got gifted the 2006 World Cup in like payment for it.

Speaker 2 And then on top of all that, he played in the game, played awful, France wins.

Speaker 2 There's a conspiracy theory that Nike, because they had invested so much in Brazil, the Brazilian team, and Ronaldo as Nike athletes, that Nike forced him to play even though he was like less than 24 hours after a seizure and Nike basically stepped in and was like he has to play no matter what put him in the game and he was awful and they ended up losing I could see Nike having that much power I honestly think that Nike has more power than the NFL it's also like a soccer conspiracy theories I there's so much shady shit that happens in the world of soccer that it really just lends itself to these things anything that's FIFA adjacent is definitely prime for some corruption right right so that that would be mine

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 What are you going to say?

Speaker 9 Honorable mentions?

Speaker 2 Honorable mentions. Go ahead.

Speaker 9 The flu game, Jordan was hungover.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's right, that when he explained, like, somebody came in with a pizza, and then the pizza guy wasn't actually the pizza guy. That to me, that didn't.

Speaker 2 It wasn't him who explained it. That was his trainer.
His security guy, yeah, his trainer.

Speaker 4 I don't really buy that still. Okay.
I think he might have been. I think Jordan might have had some brown liquor and smoked too many cigars.

Speaker 2 The only reason that that, like, wouldn't that even be more impressive, the hungover guys? Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 Obviously, the Ewing frozen envelope, which I love that one. I believe that one.
100% believe that one.

Speaker 6 NBA definitely has, there's a lot, like, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's so many.

Speaker 2 Right. The Tim Don, like, 2002, Tim Donnegan didn't ref that, but 2002, the Lakers versus the Kings and basically getting the Lakers into the finals.

Speaker 6 Fixing LeBron's first championship.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's one? I didn't know that was one. What was that one?

Speaker 6 Easter conference finals against Celtics. They gave him a bunch of calls, made sure they won.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay. After

Speaker 6 they lost to the Mavericks, they got upset and they're like, we can't let this happen again.

Speaker 4 What about the LeBron Delante West situation?

Speaker 6 That's just, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Is that conspiracy?

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's technically conspiracy.

Speaker 8 I think that happened.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that might have just happened. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And also it was kind of sad.

Speaker 4 I also hope Delante's doing well. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 The Ali Sonny Liston fight, the Phantom Knockout, we know a little something about those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On this show. Mm-hmm.
Right? Billy?

Speaker 2 No comment.

Speaker 2 Can Seiko get?

Speaker 8 I did what I did.

Speaker 14 I'm not hit. Billy got a phantom knockout.

Speaker 2 What happened? Yeah, he knocked out Jose Conseiko. Knocked him out.
Clean out.

Speaker 9 I hit him with two inside hooks and he went down. He quit.

Speaker 4 They had a boxing match like two weeks ago, and Jose was getting paid a shitload of money to do it because we sold some pay-per-views for it.

Speaker 4 And so Billy went in there, and to Billy's credit, he fought him like straight up, hit him a few times. Jose quit after about 13 seconds, fell down on the ground and just he faked an injury.

Speaker 4 He was like, oh, my pec hurts, my knee hurts, my shoulder hurts, I can't fight anymore. So he gave up after seriously about 13 seconds in the ring with Billy.

Speaker 14 Bro, Billy got hands?

Speaker 2 Hold on. I do have hands.

Speaker 9 I do have hands. I have pretty heavy hands.
I'm working on technique and quickness, but I got heavy hands.

Speaker 14 Is there footage of this?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, we can pull it up. We can pull it up.
Yeah, I'll send it to you.

Speaker 14 Please send me this. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 I see you, Billy. Yeah, that's pretty great.
He fucked him up.

Speaker 4 Hank, do you have any Roger Goodell-related conspiracies you want to throw out there? Deflate Gate.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 that's one of those, like, it's not really conspiracies. I'm surprised you didn't do that one, Hank.

Speaker 6 I was trying. I know.
I tried to. I figured everyone assumed I would.

Speaker 4 So, Arian Hank actually went to jail for Tom Brady because when he was suspended, he did a little bit of civil disobedience in the NFL lobby and basically handcuffed himself down there until he got actually arrested and put in jail.

Speaker 4 But Hank, can you explain how the NFL fucked up the Deflake Gate investigation? Because I don't know. I honestly don't know what you believe about that.

Speaker 6 Let me go back in the memories of time.

Speaker 2 Let's go, Hank.

Speaker 6 They came out with the Wells report.

Speaker 6 And then there was a lot of holes in that in the Wells Report. And they conducted this big internal investigation that took months and months and months and all this money.

Speaker 6 Didn't really prove anything conclusive, but they still docked the Patriots, whatever it was, like draft picks, fines,

Speaker 6 suspended Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 There There was a whole witch hunt, and like there was no real conclusive, conclusive evidence other than just the ball boy and this Wells report, which was a NFL paid lawyer who obviously was in Roger Goodell's pocket pushing this narrative.

Speaker 4 Got it. Okay, so besides the evidence that they collected, it was all bogus.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 2 it was cold. There's a lot of variables to the ball as well, right? It didn't make that much of a difference.

Speaker 6 That's the other thing.

Speaker 4 It was a, you know, it was a 42-6 game. Honestly, I think that's probably the best defense that you could ever make.
It was one half. It's like, yeah, the ball was a little underinflated.

Speaker 4 Who gives a fuck? We beat the shit out of the Colts.

Speaker 6 But they didn't want to be wrong. So they were like, all right, we're just going to drag this out and then just fuck you.

Speaker 2 Also, it was more of like.

Speaker 2 Go ahead.

Speaker 9 They just decide to enforce it, like doing that out of nowhere.

Speaker 9 Aaron Rodgers used to play with a super pumped-up ball.

Speaker 9 And like, you know, quarterbacks, I mean, Aaron probably knows in the NFL, like, they, you know, want their balls a certain way because they got to throw it. So, like.

Speaker 9 so

Speaker 14 did you think that was uh cheating or did you think it was kind of bogus like that's like billy says every every quarterback wants their balls a certain way yeah no i i remember when it first came out and people were asked me about it i was like yo that don't have nothing to do with catch not tackling don't have nothing to do with getting blown out like that uh i it don't matter like like the ball is the ball right it's like an it's an objective object in the game like it just doesn't have that much bearing on win or loss like um it's not like I don't know.

Speaker 14 It's not like gloves and boxing where you can lay it's not the same thing. So it's like because they still have to throw they still have to catch.
There's no like

Speaker 2 it is what it is. Right.

Speaker 14 Then that shit was stupid.

Speaker 9 What do you say, Billy? I would connect the dots. Yeah.

Speaker 9 What if we had a Jordan type situation where the NFL needed to punish Tom Brady for something that we don't know about, maybe relating to Alex Guerrero and unidentified chemicals

Speaker 9 found in his testing.

Speaker 6 It was the NFL versus Patriots.

Speaker 4 They would have just said

Speaker 4 they would have been very open about it and be like, yo, we got

Speaker 2 to be cheating.

Speaker 9 There's more of a chance to prove about the balls than anything.

Speaker 4 So it was like getting Al Capone on tax evasion. Exactly.
Instead of the murder.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 6 your thought is correct, but it's more it was Goodell and the NFL versus the Patriots versus Tom Brady and Guerrero. Tom Brady was a victim.

Speaker 4 Collateral.

Speaker 4 Okay, Aaron, I just sent you the video of Billy knocking out Jose Constantine. Let's get your instant reaction.

Speaker 14 Okay, I'm going to take it around.

Speaker 6 All right, it's over.

Speaker 2 And that was it.

Speaker 2 Oh, this is going to be great. All right, so I think what we should do while Aaron pulls it up, I think we should since we have six.

Speaker 2 Let's leave it up to people to vote tomorrow. We'll do three and three, and then the bottom vote-getter on each three and three is going to be.
Is nominated. Got it.
Yeah. That'll be good.

Speaker 2 Get a discussion going with the people. Yep.
All right. So Aaron's going to pull it up.
We're going to get his reaction to Billy football knocking out Jose Conseco.

Speaker 14 Okay, hold on, okay. Listen,

Speaker 14 neither one of y'all got hands. You just, he just has less hands than you.

Speaker 2 I'm not denying that by any means.

Speaker 14 Why is he like this? What has happened?

Speaker 4 I mean, I guess that's just my...

Speaker 14 Wow.

Speaker 14 How did he not even try to?

Speaker 14 Oh my God. No.
All right.

Speaker 14 Your form is terrible. His form is just exponential.

Speaker 2 He's going to the the gym today

Speaker 14 but what i appreciate about you is how hype you was i mean you did knock out jose casego that's jose can say like that's a legend and and you know you stood over him dog you stood over

Speaker 4 him yeah and screamed at him while he was on the ground what did you say i kind of realized he was quitting so i was like get up earn your money get your fucking money and uh yeah i was like i was like i was in a totally different headspace at that moment arie do you have any questions for billy about what type of headspace and mentality he was in when he was getting ready for that fight i mean, you had to like, like, dog, like, that has to be one of those things where you're like

Speaker 4 unsure if you should go through with it.

Speaker 9 Oh, 100%. It was, it was a, it was a one-way mission.

Speaker 14 Did you actually train for it? You actually trained for me? I trained.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I trained so long.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He crushed training. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I was kind of disappointed it lasted so little because I thought I was going to have to like, you know, use your going to war.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 9 But it was fun.

Speaker 14 Looking back. He definitely did not train for it.

Speaker 9 I'm just going to let you know. He didn't train that hard.
No, you're saying, yeah, I go to the gym like two to three times a week.

Speaker 2 I was like, I do six days a week. Yeah.

Speaker 14 He maybe like jogged.

Speaker 2 You know, he may be like eight. I don't even know if he jogged.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think maybe like the night before the weigh-in, he was like, oh, shit, I got a big weigh-in tomorrow. I'm going to, I'm going to go sit in a sauna for sure.

Speaker 9 I mean, he showed up at 270 pounds. Like, no one fights at 270 pounds.

Speaker 2 Like, Brock Lesnar didn't even fight at 270 pounds.

Speaker 2 Yes, that is. So he wrote it out of his mind.

Speaker 4 He just asked you how much you weighed, Billy.

Speaker 9 Oh, at the time of the fight, I was 208 pounds.

Speaker 2 208? Yeah.

Speaker 4 So Jose was a lot bigger than you.

Speaker 2 He had a

Speaker 14 70-pound difference.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Like right now, I'm 225. I dropped down for the fight.

Speaker 4 But what was it like fighting a guy who's like that much bigger, that much taller than you?

Speaker 9 Well, I knew he was going to have zero speed, zero conditioning. So get in his face, throw 100 punches.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 140.

Speaker 14 He said, I dropped down for the fight.

Speaker 2 He's a weapon. I wasn't going to out-muscle Jose Conseco.

Speaker 2 an absolute weapon.

Speaker 2 All right, well, Arian, thank you. Everyone, go subscribe again.
Macro dosing. First episodes out about Alex Jones.

Speaker 2 What's episode two going to be about?

Speaker 4 So we're still talking. We've got some options that we're going to run through.
I think Arian's going to lead the way on episode two.

Speaker 4 But we've got, it's going to be good. We don't have the exact title yet.
We don't have the exact topic, but we're going to talk about that during the week. But yeah, go listen to it.
Macro dosing.

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Speaker 4 So yeah, go subscribe, leave a review. Billy will say anything that you leave in a five-star review.
He'll read it out loud on the podcast. That's a promise.

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Thanks, Arian.

Speaker 14 I appreciate y'all, man. Always fun.

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Speaker 2 Okay, let's wrap up. We got a couple things here.
We got

Speaker 2 guys being dudes. So this is a study out of where?

Speaker 4 Out of UVA.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 And what was the study? So the study out of UVA was they took a sample group of guys and girls and they put them in a room and they were told that they were going in there to think, right?

Speaker 4 So you can go in this room to think. There were also switches that were put in the rooms.
The switches controlled a mild electronic shock that they could... administer to themselves.

Speaker 4 It was called a painful shock, right? So they told you, you're going to sit in this room by yourself, sit here quietly for 15 minutes. You can use the Switch if you want to.
They were put in there.

Speaker 4 About 70% of the dudes hit the Switch to feel the shock.

Speaker 4 And about 25% of the girls hit the Switch to feel the shock. So the guys actually, a lot of people are like, yo, this makes guys look really dumb.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 This is smart, what the guys are doing. Curiosity.
Yeah, curiosity. You want to know your environment that you're in there with.

Speaker 2 This study cracks me up because they didn't need to do it. Like, it's essentially saying guys are stupid and will live shorter lives because they make dumb decisions that harm themselves.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So why do we need to study?

Speaker 4 You don't need to study.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 4 it is a no-duh. But

Speaker 4 personally, like

Speaker 4 I would rather shock myself than if you put me in a room. where I had to sit up straight

Speaker 4 without any electronic. Tell you what, if you just put me in a room with a phone that wasn't connected to the internet, probably within 15 minutes, I'm going to shock myself too.

Speaker 4 I can only play so much candy crush.

Speaker 2 There's also an element of,

Speaker 2 you know, like when you have something significant happen during the day, you remember that day. It's a memory.
You're making a memory by shocking yourself.

Speaker 2 Otherwise, you just sat in a room, didn't shock yourself, went on with your day. You live an unfulfilled, boring-ass life.

Speaker 4 And can you imagine leaving that room and then like going back to your friend's house and they're like, what did you do today?

Speaker 4 And telling them I sat in a room for 15 minutes with a button that could have shocked me and I didn't press it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's that's so lame.

Speaker 4 That is the worst. I would kick you out of my home.

Speaker 2 Yes, we should actually do some kind of experiment like this as well.

Speaker 9 Here, I want to know how many times they shocked themselves.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you think they just kept on going like that?

Speaker 9 I bet there's like a five percent who just like shocked themselves, cauliflower here, guys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you start you start pounding off while shocking yourself repeatedly, just the search for stimulation, the ultimate nut.

Speaker 2 Yeah, human being, uh, human body craves contact. That's true.
Uh, all right, and the other thing we had was a quick um

Speaker 2 dramatic reading of this Seth Wickersham article that just came out about the Players Union, DeMoris Smith, all the

Speaker 2 things

Speaker 2 that go behind closed doors in the NFL. And Jerry Jones

Speaker 2 obviously stole the show. Yep.
As always, right? Yeah. He always will steal the show.

Speaker 4 He absolutely brought the thunder, but it's also like Dominique Foxworth is in there. Jerry Richardson and

Speaker 4 Damoris Smith are in this dramatic reading. So we got to figure out.
Let's actually, you know what?

Speaker 2 Let's have Jake read it. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 no, but you have to

Speaker 2 read it how it goes. All right.
No, give us the whole. No, give us the curse.
It's reading. You're reading it.
And can you do accents? Bank, bank, bank. Okay, all right.
ING.

Speaker 2 Yeah, do some accents, too.

Speaker 4 Like what? The Jerry Jones accent. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Look, my daddy grew up on a farm.

Speaker 2 You got this. You got this, Jake.
Come on. This will be a lot of fun.
All right.

Speaker 10 Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys took the floor. Look, my daddy grew up on a farm in southwest Missouri.

Speaker 10 Every so often in the spring, the wind would come from a different part of the country, and the moon would sit a different way, and the owls would start Frank I-N-G the chickens.

Speaker 4 Billy's an owl.

Speaker 10 Nobody knew where he was going with this story.

Speaker 10 The owls are F-mm-mm-I-N-G the chickens, Jones continued. It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 This is terrible.

Speaker 10 It makes no sense that they turn this down, but it's a great thing for us.

Speaker 2 I feel like you guys would be much better at this. No, no, no.
You're crushing this.

Speaker 10 We're not playing 17 games, Jerry, said executive committee member Dominique Foxworth, who now works for ESPN. It's not going to happen.
Richard sat straighter in his chair.

Speaker 2 Wait, which one's Richard? Wait, this is oh, so this is Jerry Richardson now. He's come in.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't really have an accent for Jesus.

Speaker 2 Southern also. Yeah, with a dash of misogyny.
Wow. Jeans Friday.
Pretend you're full of misogyny.

Speaker 4 Pretend it's Jean's Friday and he's a little turned off.

Speaker 2 I'm out. I'm out.
What? No, give us your horny voice. No.

Speaker 10 I'll do southern.

Speaker 2 Okay. All right, Billy, you go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 2 All right, Richardson sat straighter in his chair. We can make you.

Speaker 4 We don't have to ask you.

Speaker 9 We're being nice by not saying, fuck you. You have to do it.

Speaker 2 All right, now, Jake.

Speaker 10 We're not being nice by not telling you. F-U-C-K-U, we're not playing, Foxworth responded.

Speaker 9 We're being nice by not telling you,

Speaker 2 fuck you.

Speaker 7 We'll play with replacement players.

Speaker 2 Richardson said.

Speaker 10 We're being nice by not telling you. FUCK KU, good luck filling up stadiums with Ryan Leaf at quarterback, Foxworth replied.

Speaker 2 It was getting out of hand.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, that's a lot of Damauri Smith. That's a

Speaker 2 hat on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. Great job, boys.
Hell yeah. I'll fuck you off.

Speaker 2 Fuck you off.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine how much money these meetings would make if they were live streamed like on pay-per-view? Yeah. I'd love to see Jerry Jones just get up there and address the room.

Speaker 2 Poor Ryan Leaf gets a ricochet shot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was tough of me.

Speaker 4 Do you actually think that owls were fucking Jerry Jones' chickens?

Speaker 2 Yes. Billy?

Speaker 9 I read in a farmer's almanac. There you go.

Speaker 2 I didn't even have to answer. Billy?

Speaker 9 That's some actual magic stuff, Farmer's Almanacs.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 The squirrels getting fat and being like, all right, well, we're going to get 100 inches of snow this year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the way the moss grows on the tree.

Speaker 9 I was reading one just for like content purposes, and it was pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 What kind of content did you make out of it?

Speaker 9 Well, I was trying to make a gambling content with the farmer's almanac because it tells the future.

Speaker 8 Okay, how'd that go? I couldn't relate to two.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 4 good try, though. Nice try.
Oh, by the way, Billy, Billy had asked to be part of the macro dosing podcast on Sunday night to be our Jamie, and I said yes.

Speaker 4 And then 12 hours later, Billy just didn't show up for work. So

Speaker 4 that was classic, Billy.

Speaker 2 We're working on it, though.

Speaker 4 He'll be there next week.

Speaker 10 He's telling the truth.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he is telling the truth. Tell the truth.
Tell the truth. All right.

Speaker 2 Go ahead, Hank. Guys on checks.

Speaker 6 Hey, sexy daddy cat and tall cut pro PFT.

Speaker 6 So I asked my boyfriend the other day if he jacks off in the bathroom, and he said yes.

Speaker 6 Sometimes when he's getting ready in the morning, I asked why the bathroom smelled like nasty cum, and he told me he throws his cum tissues in the trash

Speaker 6 rather than flushing it. What's wrong with my boyfriend, and why does it smell so bad?

Speaker 4 Well, I'm trying to figure out his process here because if he's in the bathroom jacking off, why isn't he just doing it in the shower?

Speaker 2 And why is he doing the toilet? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, first of all, if you're not jacking off in the shower, there's a toilet right there. That's where tissue goes.
Right. Second of all, the shower is right there where you don't need tissues.

Speaker 2 It seems like he's actually picking the worst amount of steps.

Speaker 7 Why is he just shooting to the toilet? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Is he trying to mark his territory?

Speaker 2 Either shoot in the toilet, shoot in the shower, or flush the tissue. Yeah, your boyfriend sucks.

Speaker 6 Hey, hard body cat, PFT, cowboy hat guy, and honk. A few months ago, I wrote y'all telling my boyfriend the saving money money he had been gambling with for my future engagement ring.

Speaker 6 Today is our two-year anniversary, and he got me a gift with some of said money. The gift was pretty pricey, too.
Do you think he's being honest now?

Speaker 2 Wait. About his gambling? He's not proposing.
Wait, he won money?

Speaker 4 That's what she's implying.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 4 I don't think so. So he probably stopped gambling.
It's actually a great window into his finances to see how much do you usually lose gambling if like two months later your gift is really nice.

Speaker 4 You can kind of do the math and be like oh so you you're putting five grand on the line every weekend yeah he must have just not liked the board

Speaker 6 it happens it does uh hey buffcat pdf and blue balls billy i recently discovered my boyfriend has a really weird fetish for valentine's day he bought me a stuffed bear with some hearts on it and i thought it was cute and will put it on my bed after making it However, later that night when we were doing it, he insisted that the bear stay on the bed and watch us as we get it on.

Speaker 6 This was a little weird, but I did not think much of it. He would even look at the bear during sex and say things like, You like what you see.

Speaker 6 As we continued, he then grabbed the bear and started choking it and would not stop until we were done. It has gotten worse every time we have sex since then.

Speaker 6 He continues to say dirty things and grab the bear whenever we get really into it. To make matters worse, I noticed there's a small hole in the bear's butt.

Speaker 6 Do you think he is doing this as a joke or does he really have a fetish for this?

Speaker 2 There's a camera in the bear.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is a nanny cam.

Speaker 2 Oh, I was gonna say, I think you're fucking your dog.

Speaker 9 It's it's just

Speaker 2 grabbing the toy bear and roughing it up.

Speaker 4 It's true. It's a nanny cam.
There's a

Speaker 4 They hide cameras in stuffed bears. Yeah.
And you leave them out on your couch to see what the nanny or what the babysitter does.

Speaker 2 We actually have a nanny cam in this studio for Billy that he doesn't know about.

Speaker 4 Are you serious? Yeah, and the dick abobblehead.

Speaker 2 Wave to it, Billy. Oh, fuck.
Are you serious? Wave to it.

Speaker 4 All right, I have a confession. The Mountain Dew bottle was mine.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 4 I mean, we knew that. I'd rather you hear it from me.

Speaker 2 Didn't you already say that?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 No, but he's definitely got an OnlyFans account where he's uploading this content.

Speaker 4 You might want to dissect that chair.

Speaker 9 Just ask him for 50% of the earnings. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No.

Speaker 2 Dude. What? 75.

Speaker 2 Come on. Well, he puts it

Speaker 2 in production value. That was like, you know what you just did? You just glass ceiling it.
Fuck. Fucking shame on you, Billy.

Speaker 6 Hey, Sig Cat and Cowboy PFT. Me and my boyfriend have been dating for a while and he's always at the gym.
He goes like twice a day.

Speaker 6 And I was a little insecure, so I asked to go with him just to make sure he was actually going to the gym and not cheating. He's kind of acted weird about it, but finally gave in.

Speaker 6 The day I went, he said he was maxing out. His max on bench was 185.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 6 Do you think he's cheating on me? Because how could someone who is always talking about working out

Speaker 2 only be able to bench 185?

Speaker 4 Go back a second. You said that this guy works out twice a day.

Speaker 2 He benches.

Speaker 4 And his max is what?

Speaker 6 He said he's maxing out, but his max bench is only 185.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Do you think he is cheating on me?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Yeah, 185, there's really no other explanation.

Speaker 4 You're either dating, like, the biggest soy boy beta bitch, or he's cheating on you.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 4 185 is just ridiculously low. I mean, Billy doesn't even know.

Speaker 9 Or he's in fight club.

Speaker 6 What? Wouldn't she notice that?

Speaker 4 And what? Oh, Billy's saying that's where he goes secretly.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 6 I think she would notice that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh.
Okay.

Speaker 2 You think he's just a great fighter?

Speaker 9 Powerlifting and fighting isn't really compatible.

Speaker 2 Right. So.

Speaker 9 I realize that. Okay.

Speaker 2 Maybe he might be.

Speaker 2 Well, you're at your 1-0, dude.

Speaker 8 But, like, you lose

Speaker 2 gains. Oh, God.

Speaker 4 But when you were working out before, you knew that you were going to fight.

Speaker 4 You were already getting trained. You were getting your body ready for a fight even before Jose Conseco's name was even mentioned.
True. That's why you were at 185.
Maybe.

Speaker 4 Maybe this guy's got...

Speaker 4 He might be still in the closet. And when he says he's going to get a workout at the gym, he says, like, at gyms, and he says it really fast.

Speaker 4 Just goes and visit hang out with his buddy.

Speaker 2 Either way, don't shame him. I mean, 185 is, if you go to the gym in any type of regularity and you are 185,

Speaker 2 that's absolutely pathetic. Really, really.
I mean, I think I could bench 185. I haven't been in the gym in years.

Speaker 4 Most gyms will actually revoke your membership if you go there every day because you're like, you're obviously,

Speaker 4 you're not getting out of this, what you're putting into it. Right.

Speaker 9 Should we rep out 185 right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I could probably do it.

Speaker 4 I'd probably get hurt, but I could probably do it. I actually took some of the weights home over the weekend to practice, so I don't think we have 185 here.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I could definitely do it.

Speaker 6 My husband's birthday is Friday. He's an AWL and has most of your merch.
He only tells people that he wants cash for a gift. What do you recommend I get him?

Speaker 2 Cash. Yeah, cash.
Cash.

Speaker 2 He couldn't be more transparent.

Speaker 4 He wants cash. You know what, though? It's the greatest gift in the world.
Cash is amazing. Cash is king.
We'll never turn down cash.

Speaker 4 However, we're getting close enough to the end of this pandemic thing where if somebody gave me like a $100 Dave and Buster's gift card right now, I would be fucking pumped.

Speaker 4 It would be something to look forward to in the future. Where I'm like,

Speaker 4 May 15th, we're going to fucking Busters.

Speaker 2 Yeah, remember that. Remember the days in the pandemic, like the first week or two when everyone's like, Hey, if we just buy gift cards to your favorite restaurant, we'll keep it in business.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do remember that. That was cool.
Turns out it took Dave Portnoy to

Speaker 4 bought everybody gift cards.

Speaker 2 Save the world, yeah, cash. Just get them cash.
Cash is the best. You can buy whatever you want.
All right, let's do numbers. Billy, you gotta mean 18.
19. No, 18.

Speaker 2 19.

Speaker 4 I think about 19. 19 what this number sometimes is.

Speaker 7 In 1974, there was a chimpanzee war that lasted seven years called the Combé Chimpanzee War, where two rival chimpanzee troops

Speaker 2 went to war.

Speaker 4 Jane Goodall recorded it.

Speaker 2 Dude, this machine is taunting you, Hank.

Speaker 10 Taunting you. Two out of three for 17.

Speaker 2 Are you on 19 now? You're being taunted. It's actually just trailing you.

Speaker 2 If 19 comes up on Friday, I'm going to be so happy.

Speaker 4 Billy, that chimpanzee war thing sounds medalistic.

Speaker 9 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 And then a third separatist group arised. It's actually the documentary on it.

Speaker 8 That's very cool. Okay.

Speaker 2 We should Caesar.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 Talking away.

Speaker 4 Well, I don't know what I'm to say.

Speaker 2 I'll say

Speaker 2 anyway.

Speaker 2 Today's a not the day to finally

Speaker 2 shy away

Speaker 2 Oh, I've been coming for your love and dream Take

Speaker 2 on

Speaker 2 me

Speaker 2 Take

Speaker 2 me

Speaker 2 I'll be

Speaker 2 gone

Speaker 2 needless to say

Speaker 2 I'm all the sentence

Speaker 2 but he's throwing away

Speaker 2 Turning

Speaker 2 that life is a faith Say after me

Speaker 2 It's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 2 Say after me

Speaker 2 It's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 2 Take

Speaker 2 me

Speaker 2 I'll keep

Speaker 2 on

Speaker 2 living

Speaker 2 after