Chris Hogan, Leonard Fournette aka Lombardi Lenny and Carson Wentz Traded

1h 26m

Carson Wentz has finally been traded and we talk winners and losers (2:10 - 8:57). Big Ben is still a Steeler, sort of (8:57 - 10:30). Fernando Tatis Jr mega contract and talking tennis (10:30 - 26:06). Our friend Lombardi Lenny joins the show to talk about winning the Super Bowl, Tom Brady pumping him up and taking everyone out to dinner (26:06 - 39:14) NFL WR and now PLL Draftee Chris Hogan joins the show to talk about entering the Lacrosse Draft, Belichick, Super Bowls, and more (39:14 - 64:10). Fyre Fest of the week included a who farted mystery


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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we've got a Friday Twofer, Lombardi Lenny, Leonard Fournette, off his Super Bowl championship. He's family now.
Great to talk to him. And then we have Chris Hogan,

Speaker 1 new

Speaker 1 PLL

Speaker 1 draftee. He's entered the POL draft.
We talk about football with him. We talk about his lacrosse career.
We also have Carson Wentz got traded. Finally,

Speaker 1 Firefest of the Week. Fernando Tatis got paid a shitload of money for a billion years.

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Speaker 1 Friday, February 19th. And finally, Carson Wentz has been traded to the place we all thought he would end up, the Indianapolis Colts.
It is official. It is done.
We can move on.

Speaker 1 The biggest losers being the Philadelphia Eagles, I would say.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I guess in a way it's a loss. In a way, it's a win, though, because they don't have to keep talking about it.
I would say it's a big loss. It's done.
He's gone.

Speaker 4 Well, it's only a loss if you frame it in the context of the Eagles were saying we're going to get two first-round picks for him.

Speaker 1 Oh, I would frame it in the context of the Eagles traded for him to draft him. Overall, then they gave him a ton of money.
Then they had got

Speaker 1 it will maybe end up being a first-round pick if he stays healthy.

Speaker 1 Then they also gave him a ton of money and $33 million against the cap, and their franchise quarterback that they thought they had traded for, and everything was hunky-dory, is now gone.

Speaker 1 So I'd say that's

Speaker 4 when you look at it from a macro perspective, from a micro perspective, like, did they get enough for him?

Speaker 4 They probably, I would say that the Colts got the better end of this deal, but the Eagles got rid of it. They're ready to move on.

Speaker 1 And probably draft another quarterback.

Speaker 4 And they will probably draft another quarterback this year. I think, I mean, he's probably going to be a decent fit in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 This always made sense to me. I always thought he was going to go to Indianapolis.
The reclamation of Carson Wentz, like the Frank Wright, was where he had his success earlier in his career.

Speaker 1 And, you know, last year was very bad. I do think that he can.

Speaker 1 I'm not throwing him out. I'm not saying that he can't

Speaker 1 find old Carson Wentz. And the best place for him to do that is the Indianapolis Colts.
So I wouldn't be shocked if they do okay with him. Like, it wouldn't be.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 I was never in the camp of Carson Wentz is trash. He can't figure it it out.
I was in the camp of if the Bears trade for him, their coaching staff can't figure him out.

Speaker 1 And Frank Reich makes sense for him to go to the Colts.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd say that the losers of this trade would be the Raiders. The Raiders lost this trade because the Colts tried to get Derek Carr first.

Speaker 4 And the Raiders were like, no, we're not going to part with Derek Carr. That's a loss for the Raiders right there.
The Bears, I would say, won the trade by not doing it. Correct.

Speaker 4 And Carson Wentz won the trade. This is actually like a huge win for Carson Wentz because the last couple years, he has been like, he's just reminded me of a dog that needs a forever home.

Speaker 4 He's just looked sad. He's looked very upset in Philadelphia.
Like, he obviously did not have the confidence of the franchise, didn't have the confidence of the fans.

Speaker 4 He gets to go to a new place, a place that will probably have less scrutiny on him from the fans.

Speaker 1 I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 1 Well, Dan Dokic.

Speaker 4 Dan Dokic is there, breathing down his neck. Jim Ursay is going to be very, very supportive of him.

Speaker 4 Proof is open.

Speaker 1 I would love for Andrew Luck to come back tomorrow. That would be the funniest story.

Speaker 4 It would be very funny. I know it.

Speaker 1 I'm ready to be back.

Speaker 4 Another kind of under-discussed part of this trade, and just the Eagles franchise in general, is how perfect it is that their GM is named Howie, which is the perfect name for Philadelphia fans to get mad at.

Speaker 4 It just sounds awesome when they're like, fucking Howie. Howie, you screwed everything up.

Speaker 1 Eagles fans are mad, and they do have a right to be mad because there's this weird thing that happens in sports, and if you win a championship, and then you're expected to say, oh, well, it's all good.

Speaker 1 And there is something that is involved in that. Like, you know, if you win a championship, there are gravy, you know, grace periods.

Speaker 1 But the Eagles winning a Super Bowl three years ago and you thought, oh, my God, this roster is set. Like, they have their franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 Carson Wentz, even though wasn't part of the playoff run, did win a lot of games that year, was an MVP dark horse. And now you're looking three years later and you

Speaker 1 don't have your franchise quarterback. Your roster is pretty barren.

Speaker 1 Our colleague Smitty said that I think that the Eagles are the only team in the last seven years to not have drafted a Pro Bowler, which is kind of a crazy stat. So

Speaker 1 Eagles fans have a right to be mad and they're mad usually anyway. But I do think that saying, oh, well, they just won a Super Bowl three years ago.
They don't have a right to be mad.

Speaker 1 You kind of fuck this up. Like, it should have been, they should have been competitive.
They should have been competitive.

Speaker 4 They were set. They had all the pieces in place to be good for a long time.
So, yeah, listen, I'm never going to tell Eagles fans not to get mad.

Speaker 4 You might as well tell the sun not to shine because that's not ever going to happen. They're going to be mad no matter what.
But you're right.

Speaker 4 They do have, they've got a reason to be pissed off in this situation.

Speaker 4 It was just never going to work with Carson Wentz after the last couple years. It was just very, very obvious that he was not going to be able to stick around there.

Speaker 4 What's also going to be funny is the Eagles, if they don't draft a quarterback in the first round, they're probably going to take a wide receiver. They're probably going to take like Jamar Chase.

Speaker 4 And Carson Wentz is going to be like, what the fuck? Like I leave. When I was there, we get like the best guy that we got was Orthega Whiteside.
And then I leave.

Speaker 1 And now we get Jamar Chase. They drafted a wide receiver last year, Jalen Rager.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they've threw out Sean Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 I just think Carson Wentz is, he lost all his confidence, and he became just a terrible, terrible quarterback. I don't, I mean, yeah, I don't really blame.

Speaker 1 It's weird because it wasn't like the Eagles.

Speaker 4 The Eagles did try to put, they got a lot of injuries in their wide receiver core they did try to put some talent around him and he also just became a shell of himself essentially overnight this year I do want to take my hat off to the the ESPN social media team for having the Photoshops ready to go like with the trade announcement they already had the Carson Wentz in the blue with the blue arm sleeve yeah the blue arm sleeve looks weird it was cool when it was like he had the camouflage arm sleeve on when he was in Philly and that worked because it was already green like it was similar to the Eagles colors the blue arm sleeve looks very strange to me it looks like a Smurf yeah ginger smurf yeah he um it's I mean I I guess it also like I really did just think this was the only way that the only place he was going to end up so it makes sense I do think the Colts are going to be they have everything kind of set up to if Carson Wentz is like I don't know 90% of what he was at his peak or maybe even 80% they should be in a good shape yeah it's also funny that they both franchises kind of did a wife swap with offensive coordinators and head coaches in the last couple years.

Speaker 4 So Siriani comes to the Eagles and then immediately sends Carson Wentz back to Reich, who was the offensive coordinator for Carson Wentz in Philadelphia. Yes.
Two franchises are inextricably linked.

Speaker 1 Yes. And then we also had the Big Ben news where kind of ominous saying that Big Ben is on the roster and a Steeler today doesn't feel like

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel like they want Big Ben around next year.

Speaker 4 Well, they didn't say Big Ben is our guy. They said that's a conversation we're going to have to have later.
Yeah. So Big Ben, he's just going to keep showing up until you tell him.

Speaker 4 He's probably just going to keep showing up even if they cut him. Big Ben, if he gets released, and I don't know what the, I'm not a capologist.
They're screwed.

Speaker 1 Like we said on Wednesday when we were talking about the, you know, a potential trade for a backup quarterback. They don't have any money.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like there's there's if Big Ben stays, it's $40 million. If he leaves, it's $20 million.
Like they don't, and they already don't have money anyway to sign anyone. So they're screwed no matter what.

Speaker 4 So, what if they cut him, though? If they just cut Big Ben

Speaker 1 22 million, I think, or 20 million dollars.

Speaker 4 So, that's what they might end up doing is just releasing him and eating that money. And Big Ben will probably be like, You don't have to pay me.
I'm just going to keep showing up to work.

Speaker 1 If that's okay with you, he could just take a pay cut, and you could, I think, essentially pay him less. And he, like, you, I was reading about it today.

Speaker 1 They would, like, push it off, and so they would take the $20 million cap hit and use Big Ben this year, and then hope that he's like decent instead of just cutting him and letting him walk away.

Speaker 4 We're going to get a lot of very tearful Big Ben quotes, though. Like if they decide to move on from Big Ben, he's going to give at least three press conferences.
He's going to cry.

Speaker 4 It's going to be sad.

Speaker 4 Big Ben doesn't take no lightly. No.
That's what we know about. Absolutely a fact.

Speaker 1 Any other news? Fernando Tatis signed for $14 million, for 14 years for $340 million. I still don't, I feel like I'm doing a bad Jerry Seinfeld bit, but like, why 14? Why 14 years?

Speaker 1 I guess maybe, oh, actually, you know what? I, I think it actually, I read that it was four years were remaining and then 10 years on top of it, but 14 feels like a random number.

Speaker 4 Yeah. How did they bargain?

Speaker 1 Is that it?

Speaker 5 It's four funny tidbit on 14 years,

Speaker 5 meaning something. When his contract ends, the Mets will still have one year on Bobby Benita's contract.

Speaker 1 I like it, Jake.

Speaker 4 It's funny. That's perfect.

Speaker 4 I'm so glad that you beat He Who Shall Not Be Named to That Fun Stat.

Speaker 5 Who thinks Snaomi Osaka is boring?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Is she? No.
Not at all. Jake? We're Osaka.

Speaker 5 Osaka main fan of Osaka. She beat Serena.
Well-deserved, but big fan.

Speaker 1 She's dating a rapper. How can you be boring? Well, she plays a boring sport.
No. Tennis isn't boring.

Speaker 5 You threw me a retweet. I feel like that was just a fake retweet, too.

Speaker 1 No, it was a fake. That's a big cat's thing.
Yeah. Fake

Speaker 1 retweets. For what?

Speaker 4 How can you tell when a retweet is a fake retweet?

Speaker 1 What is talking about, Hank? Previous tweets. All right, I'll remember that.
He hated tennis. He asked me to retweet.

Speaker 1 I was joking.

Speaker 5 And then I tweeted something about, like, yeah, Osaka Serve is sick.

Speaker 1 And then Big Type retweeted. Well, you were very excited about the match.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was a great match.

Speaker 1 I said I didn't give a fuck. People were like, how can you not be talking about it? Like, I do not care.

Speaker 1 And I'm excited for your excitement.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I appreciate it. You gave me a lot of impressions.

Speaker 1 And now I'm wondering what the fuck is up with Hank.

Speaker 1 Petty retweets. I don't even know what I petty retweets.
That's a callback joke.

Speaker 1 To when? To Nate.

Speaker 1 Oh, did Nate say that about me?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 you give out petty reach with me.

Speaker 1 Pity out.

Speaker 1 Pity reach.

Speaker 1 That's okay, Hank. Totally different meanings.
I knew it was a P-word. Totally different meanings.
Yes, Nate said that when I retweeted Nate trying to help boost him up, he said it was a pity reach.

Speaker 1 That's what I was saying. And I was like, how does that make sense? I'm actually trying to be a nice guy here.
And he's called a P. Yeah.
But pity and pity are totally different meanings. But

Speaker 1 back to the comment about her being born. I was confused.
I was like, dude, what?

Speaker 4 I'm as casual of a tennis fan as you could ever run across. You might not know it because on the show we get pretty in-depth with things sometimes.

Speaker 4 We have a great research staff, but like we don't really follow tennis. She stands out as being actually a pretty exciting person.

Speaker 4 But Hank, what rapper does she date? Because

Speaker 4 you can't be boring if you date a rapper.

Speaker 1 YBN Corday. Oh, okay.
That was made up.

Speaker 4 Now tell us the real one. I was going to say if it's McLemore.
Yeah. That's pretty.

Speaker 1 That's real.

Speaker 5 Let me read it word for word so he doesn't. Well, actually, he said she's on the bottom rung when it comes to emotion and personality.

Speaker 4 so i guess that's tough is that true no that's people love her interviews they go viral compliment though coming from him being like i don't think she has a good personality

Speaker 1 i think i think the person who said that is probably like a little sexist yeah

Speaker 1 i don't know how you can see uh her and think she's boring i i'm not a tennis fan either and i know her

Speaker 1 Because you're dating a rapper, which means I know her outside of the tennis world, which means she's not boring. Yep.
Right?

Speaker 4 If Hank is aware of her, then she's not boring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Yeah, sure.
Not boring. All right, but it's still a boring sport.

Speaker 4 Yes. But Fernando Tatis.
Yes, a boring sport. Good for him.

Speaker 4 He's getting, what, $340 million?

Speaker 1 I'm in a no-yes off with his jake right now.

Speaker 4 $340 million.

Speaker 1 No, yes. No.

Speaker 4 To live in San Diego. All right, I'm done.
Him and Machado. Yeah.
It's what?

Speaker 4 It's him, Machado, Mike Trout, also in Southern California, and then Mookie Betts, I think are like the four highest paid players in baseball, all living in Southern California for the next like 12 years.

Speaker 4 Their life is set. That's the dream is playing in San Diego for the Padres and getting paid a shitload of money to do it where nobody will ever hold you accountable because you're on the Padres.

Speaker 1 Yes. And Jake, let me go back to you.
How many years until Fernando Tatis Jr. is a Yankee?

Speaker 1 I mean, because that is now back. I love that.
Whenever someone signs like a 14 million, 14-year deal, they're like, well, he'll be a Yankee in six years.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, the Padres, they obviously were an electric team in the shortened season last year.

Speaker 1 San Diego?

Speaker 5 Yeah, San Diego. So if they don't win a title in what, the first four or five, then he's a Yankee.

Speaker 4 You know what? For chill two. You know what, Big Guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 You know how we're saying that

Speaker 4 nobody pays attention to San Diego. So, you know, they get a pass when it comes to national media.

Speaker 4 We should hold ourselves to be the ones that are putting San Diego in the accountability spotlight. Like, if San Diego does not produce, they're frauds.
Yep.

Speaker 4 We'll be the only ones getting pissed off about that lovely season. The problem is we'd have to stay up for the game, so I'm not going to do that.
Well, yeah, we don't have to actually watch.

Speaker 1 We just have to watch. We could

Speaker 1 move there. Move to San Diego? San Diego.
Yeah. Do you want to move there? We could.
Okay. We should move there.

Speaker 1 The deal is still out there. What? We can move to the West Coast.
You cannot go into a body of water. I'm down.
I don't care. You can't go into a pool or an ocean.
What about the shower? Nope. What?

Speaker 1 Nothing. That's

Speaker 1 the deal. No, no hot tubs.
He can't bait. You made that deal.
No.

Speaker 4 We'd be fucking ourselves on that one, having to live with Stank Lockwood, just smelling up the studio the whole time.

Speaker 1 Put a big wall up. You can't go into a single pool

Speaker 1 for the entirety that we're out there. What about that? That was the deal we made, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Let's just go out there for the Super Bowl for like six months next week. What about this?

Speaker 4 What if

Speaker 1 we moved to Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 I've been thinking about a lot about the Super Bowl next year.

Speaker 4 You're allowed to go swimming. You're allowed to go swimming indoors.
I'm planning.

Speaker 1 You can bathe.

Speaker 4 You're just not allowed to go outside. I'm down.

Speaker 1 Ah.

Speaker 1 But that deal was made two years ago. I'm down.
That we could move there and you just can't go into any water. I just think that the minute we move there, Vacation Lockwood comes out.

Speaker 1 Vacation Lockwood is something that exists inside me at all. No,

Speaker 1 he would live out there. He'd be in a fucking

Speaker 1 house. Because

Speaker 1 I could go for a run in the morning to the beach. I wouldn't have to planning now.

Speaker 4 There are trips to go to the beach.

Speaker 1 Right now I have to plan. I have to take time off to go to the beach.
If I could go to the beach after work, I wouldn't miss work.

Speaker 1 When we say we have to stay late and do this or we have to do that, and you're like, I'm there.

Speaker 1 I'll go surfing in the morning.

Speaker 1 No clouds in the sky, and we're three hours behind the real world. No, at the same time, no, you wouldn't have

Speaker 1 had this discussion. It is not.

Speaker 4 Hank's saying he would knock a tattoo and become like an ultra-marathoner.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everything was.
I'd be a pro-kite surfer. You'd have to get up at 5 a.m.
every morning. That's fine.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't get up at 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 I think they would do it. 10.30 was this morning.
They would take looking for an answer.

Speaker 4 One listen to Hank's yawns in California and throw him out of the state.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The deal is out there. All right.
So think about it. I will.
No pools, no hot tubs. Billy, you're looking at me right now.

Speaker 1 You can't be trusted in nice weather. What?

Speaker 1 We can't move this over. Moving this entire operation to nice weather.
Billy, you have to put on the headphones every time we record. You have to.
You have to.

Speaker 1 Every time it's like,

Speaker 1 I didn't mean to get you yelled at there, Billy. I want it on the record.
I did not mean to get you yelled at. I didn't want you to get yelled at.

Speaker 1 Are you okay? Billy's got some anger in his chest right now. I didn't say anything.

Speaker 4 I went to move to the microphone.

Speaker 1 He did. I know, but I'm saying, like, from now on, every time, headphones, just so when you do talk, you can hear yourself and you can hear if you're talking.
I didn't mean to get you yelled at.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. It's fine.

Speaker 4 Dude, a Billy versus Hank would be so awesome.

Speaker 4 What if we just sent Hank and Billy out to scout out San Diego and they had to build the studio just themselves out there? I would love to see that.

Speaker 1 Imagine Billy in super nice weather trying to tame that fucking wild horse.

Speaker 4 I'd do great in nice weather.

Speaker 4 It's good for my joints. Use sunscreen, Billy.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 All right, anything else?

Speaker 1 Anything else cooking?

Speaker 4 That's about it. I did see we're getting into NFL draft season where teams are just very obviously like throwing out bullshit smoke screens.

Speaker 4 I saw one anonymous scout was comparing Zach Wilson from BYU to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 He's got him ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence because of the

Speaker 1 baseball background, I think. Yeah, I think Zach Wilson does.

Speaker 4 Oh, Billy. I actually totally agree.

Speaker 4 I've been watching because I actually started watching everything way more BYU.

Speaker 1 Was it you?

Speaker 4 Were you the anonymous scout?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, but it's just the way he scouts.

Speaker 4 No, no, it's it's the way he uses his base in separation to his upper body when he throws. It's very Mahomes-esque and very baseball-esque.

Speaker 4 Okay, we can just agree that it was a scout for the Jets, though, right? Being like, yo, actually, Trevor Lawrence sucks Jacksonville. Probably shouldn't take him.

Speaker 4 I would take this 31-year-old from BYU instead.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How old is Zach Wilson?

Speaker 4 It's a good question.

Speaker 1 All right, let's find that out.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 4 Okay, so he's good. My mistake.

Speaker 1 He's good to go. Well, I agree with you.
I would have liked to have DYU. No, I wasn't disagreeing with you.

Speaker 4 Oh, other huge news.

Speaker 4 The end of an era.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 Tim Tebow retired last night.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That didn't work out.

Speaker 4 Didn't work out. I was holding out hope.

Speaker 1 Didn't you have a prediction that he was going to be in?

Speaker 4 No, no.

Speaker 4 My prediction was that the Mets should bring him up because they weren't selling any tickets and they should have brought him up several times to the big leagues because Tim Tebow puts asses in seats.

Speaker 4 That's just a fact. People would go out and watch Tim Tebow strike out three times before they would go out and watch the Mets win 30% of their games at home.

Speaker 4 So I think that they definitely should have brought him out. Skip Bayless, it's a tough day for him.
They had a debate on today saying, was he a better baseball player or a football player?

Speaker 1 I mean, he won a Heisman. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, he might be the most overrated player in the history of two professional sports.

Speaker 1 I would say he's underrated in football.

Speaker 4 Now

Speaker 4 he's gotten so far removed that now he's underrated?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say he's underrated in football because we all clown on him and you know, he wasn't great in the pros.

Speaker 1 But in terms of, I mean, he's one of the best college football players ever, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'd say like top three college football player.

Speaker 1 I'd have to look through like all of it, but he is, he's a legend in college football. It's tough to be like he was terrible at football.

Speaker 1 He just wasn't good at throwing a football, which he had to do in the pros.

Speaker 4 So you would agree, though, that he was a better professional football player than professional baseball player?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he won a playoff game. He did.

Speaker 4 Beat the Steelers. I mean, that's a good thing.
Ryan Clark wasn't there.

Speaker 1 You just always say it. He won a playoff game.

Speaker 4 The opposite of Deion Sanders. That's how he'll be remembered.

Speaker 1 He won a playoff game.

Speaker 4 Blo Jackson. Blow Jackson? Blo Jackson.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Woah Jackson. W-O-E.

Speaker 1 Keep working on it. Okay.

Speaker 4 Bro Jackson. Bro Jackson.

Speaker 1 Bro Jackson. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What'd you sick with Bro Jackson?

Speaker 1 Okay. I like Bro Jackson.

Speaker 4 Chod Jackson.

Speaker 1 Although he's not really a bro. He's kind of

Speaker 1 a bro. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what? I mean, the most iconic moment of Tebow's career was probably just when he ran through the rain without a shirt on.

Speaker 1 I was going to say crying on the sideline against Alabama.

Speaker 4 That too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one is definitely a fun thing.

Speaker 4 You remember Tebowing? Yep. That was a thing for a week.

Speaker 1 That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 Press conference?

Speaker 1 Which one? The speech. Yeah, the speech.

Speaker 5 Ruined my bar mitzvah.

Speaker 1 Wow, okay. Tell that story.
Because

Speaker 5 they have my bar mitzvah, and they lost all this.

Speaker 1 But the speech was incredible. I mean, yeah, but they lost.
Right, but they speed up coming.

Speaker 4 And then they winning the championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no teams work harder than them. The start of the championship DVD is your bar mitzvah.
Yep. There we go.
Perfect. A little fun fact.
Sounds like pretty good bar mitzvah. Yeah, that's not.

Speaker 1 I think you're looking at it the wrong way, Jake.

Speaker 1 They lost, though. Yeah, I understand, but that was the start.
They're looking back. No right.
But in the moment, in the moment.

Speaker 4 They just remember Jake becoming a man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Tebow promising that they were not going to lose again.

Speaker 4 And then it happened. I hope he goes back to the NFL.
I hope he tries again. I hope he just keeps cycling back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think he can.

Speaker 4 How great would that that be, though, if he just showed up for a training camp? I don't think that's on the table. We'll give him a shot.

Speaker 1 I mean, I agree with you. I hope he also goes back to the NFL.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I don't think there's. It's probably not going to happen.
It's not on the table. How is Skip going to deal with this, though?

Speaker 4 I mean, the bargaining stage hasn't even, he's not even that far through the process of grief right now.

Speaker 4 Like, he's got to have to, at some point, Skip Bayless has to figure out a way to be like, I was right about Tim Tebow, even though he's been wrong about Tim Tebow consistently every day of his life for the last, what, 10 years?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know how Skip's gonna make it through this I mean he's doing he's juggling that and LeBron right now so yeah it's it's not easy for skip yeah he's the only person who thinks that Tim Tebow is good and LeBron James sucks

Speaker 4 tough place to be in it's quite a world uh all right let's get to our interviews we got Leonard Fournette Lombardi Lenny first and then Chris Hogan hey it's PFT here reminding you that Boarshead makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local boars head retailer or you create your own spread at home with Boarshead premium deli meats and cheeses, you are sure to impress your guests.

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Speaker 1 All right, we now welcome on recurring guest. It is Lombardi Lenny, Leonard Fournette, which, by the way, so we get an email before we have guests on, and it says promoting what they're promoting.

Speaker 1 And for your email, it says promoting Super Bowl champs. So that's pretty damn cool.

Speaker 6 Yeah, most definitely. I'm happy to be a champ finally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so let's talk about it. How does it feel? I mean, it's obviously set in, I would assume.
It's been a week and a half, but has it just been the best week and a half of your life right now?

Speaker 6 Yeah, it has, man.

Speaker 6 Like, after the game, I couldn't believe it. I was still in shock, you know,

Speaker 6 especially like from where I come from, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 And how my season turned out to be and to have the finish that I had, man, it's unbelievable to share that moment with my parents, my kids, my family. And it was no other feeling like it in the world.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, you scored a touchdown.
I bet on you to score a touchdown in in the Super Bowl. You officially became Lombardi Linney, right?

Speaker 1 How much you won?

Speaker 4 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 It was minimal.

Speaker 1 Not that much.

Speaker 4 After taxes, it's basically nothing.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 did that hit different in the moment? Was there like, did it slow down when you got to the end zone? Were you able to soak it all in? Or was everything in that game at like that next level speed?

Speaker 6 I was. The score on,

Speaker 6 I think, one of the all-time stages of football and in front of millions of people that was watching the game and just knowing that was at stake, you know, a lot of great players was on that field.

Speaker 6 You know, Pat, Gronk, Brady. And just for me to be a part of that team and also to have

Speaker 6 part in us winning the Super Bowl, I felt wonderful, man. I'm not going to lie.
It was great.

Speaker 1 I loved watching the mic'd up. I think it's whatever is Showtime.

Speaker 1 after the fact, you know, the Super Bowl mic'd up. Everyone's mic'd up.
I noticed that your team, team, they love, they love playoff Lenny. Like, everyone was really rooting for you.

Speaker 1 Do you, did you feel that? Because you can tell, like, certain teammates just resonate different with their teammates. And I feel like that was you for this team.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think, I don't think it's not just that, but my personality. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 I'm probably one of the young guys on the team. And

Speaker 6 who keeps football fun? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 I'm me 100%

Speaker 6 throughout whatever it is. You know, I love joking.
I love playing around. That's just who I am.

Speaker 6 And I think it kind of brings a spark towards the team, too. Guys like me and Shady who have

Speaker 6 that attitude, or you can say that personality of the offense.

Speaker 6 So I think guys look forward to guys like myself and other guys who have those great personalities to bring that kind of spark to the offense.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So going into the game,

Speaker 4 it was Coach Arian's first Super Bowl. I'm sure he was pumped up.
I'm sure he was very excited for it. He's probably a little bit nervous.

Speaker 4 Who is in charge of you know the the pregame speech you know you've you've put in the work during the week you've got everything prepared you're all set but you need that one like last kick in the ass to send you out on that field was he the one that that gave it and if if it was what did he say to you what was his message uh he gave a speech but it wasn't it wasn't the speech we needed you know i'm not gonna say that he gave a speech but the following speech and like he coach coach coach bruce always gave a speech but The speech we needed to hear was from Tom Brady, you know,

Speaker 6 and his speech is about honor. You know what I mean? And that's, I got kids between the team, but it was a powerful ass message that I think we all needed to hear.

Speaker 6 And when he, I don't, I think it's how he delivered it, you know what I mean? You know, you have Tom really talking to you, how he delivered it to the team.

Speaker 6 It just, it just woke us up. It gave us a spark that we needed, you know, before the game.
You know,

Speaker 6 a lot of guys have motivation and they might be playing for the money, you know, their family.

Speaker 6 Some people just because they love it. But when Tom said we're playing for honor and for the last names on our back, I think that kind of hit different for us.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Because we all playing for our last names and we all trying to be remembered. And he put that, I think, in a perfect scenario for us to go out there and work our asses off.

Speaker 1 What about the text message you got the week leading up?

Speaker 1 Tom Brady, it came out that he was texting basically the entire team saying we're going to win.

Speaker 1 When you get that text message, I'd imagine that helps the confidence and helps you feel like, hey, we're actually going to do something here.

Speaker 1 A guy texting you with six Super Bowls saying we're going to win.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so just going to work, you know, it'd be 5:30 in the morning before, I guess he's the first, he's the first person up. You know, he leads by example.
That's who he is.

Speaker 6 And he was just telling us, we will win this game. You know, our hard work was doing throughout the week.
You know, he made sure that, you know, just like we all did.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 it just shows you a different side of him. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 6 you don't get that too much. You know what I mean? Like, to witness greatness

Speaker 6 up close like that.

Speaker 6 It was crazy moments. Like sometimes I've been a backfield and I look to the side.
It's probably during the play.

Speaker 1 I'll be like, damn, I'm really playing this with fucking Tom Brady. Like, this is crazy.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 So it's just, it's things like that that I think this season taught me a lot. You know, it was a humbling season for me, too.
But also

Speaker 6 just to recognize greatness, you know, understand

Speaker 6 this is a fast game. It goes by fast.
You know, you'd be at 30 years old, you're an old man in this game. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 You have a further life to live outside of football but just seeing guys like him and how he he approaches the game and how much he loves it you really see why he has seven rings you know and why he's arguably probably the best football player to ever play this game yeah and how long after the parade did he wait to text the entire team like hey guys my bad i know i was really drunk sorry about almost losing to the variety trophy

Speaker 6 nah nah i think

Speaker 6 like this is my first time being a part of super bowl parade, but I think this one was different. And I think he deserved that.
No matter whatever it was, you know,

Speaker 6 I remember prior to the beginning of the season, they were saying he was too old. He doesn't have it.

Speaker 6 You've seen a video he put up. The video you put up recently on his page when they had me in there saying I was washed.

Speaker 6 They had him saying he's old, you know, he's about to retire, whatever the case may be. And

Speaker 6 I think

Speaker 6 just...

Speaker 6 Just believing in yourself and the daughters have nothing to say. He did a remarkable job the way he came back from it.

Speaker 4 How fun was that parade, though? It looked like everybody was having the best time of their life on those boats.

Speaker 6 Man, listen, I had a blast.

Speaker 6 You know, we had big hands flying at us. You know, you had to duck for cover.
But the overall experience of on the water and boats, it was remarkable.

Speaker 1 The other moment that I realized that you are probably the most liked guy on the team is all the jokes you're making about JPP on the boat. That I feel like I feel like you have to be in

Speaker 1 close to a guy to make some of those jokes. But it seems like you guys have a good friendship.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 we all have tight friendships on the team. We joke around with each other all day.
And listen,

Speaker 6 let's not get this twisted. He may have seven and a half fingers, but he is a hall of famer.
He's a hall of famer. He's a two-time champion.
And his resume and his credentials he have.

Speaker 1 It's remarkable. You know,

Speaker 6 understand, like, even being with a guy like JPP, you you know, he's been through similar

Speaker 6 situations I've been in. You know what I mean? He's been traded or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 6 But I think he was the lead on the offense besides, I mean, defense besides Devin White, who was really vocal. And

Speaker 6 I think he's one of the guys who actually

Speaker 6 played and talked the talk.

Speaker 6 Both of them. Sacks.
And my guy had two interceptions this year. So, yeah, it saves a lot.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And he had a lot of deflected passes, too. Like, he has remarkably good hands for not having two fair hands.
Like, that's.

Speaker 6 listen listen and his his favorite thing i remember i think it was

Speaker 6 some game i had a bad game dropping balls he's like i catch better than you i said damn you right that game you probably did

Speaker 4 did he uh did he say anything to joe hagg after he dropped that touchdown catch

Speaker 1 say it again the the lineman what's his name joe i don't know how to pronounce his last name joe hagg the trick play you guys ran the lineman who almost caught the touchdown oh joe uh

Speaker 6 nah nah it was just

Speaker 6 you you know, the big guys, man, you know,

Speaker 6 they don't practice, you know, they don't train to hit, get hit like that, trying to catch the ball. So he tried his best.
I give you that. He tried his best.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I saw that you guys are trying to bring everybody back next year.
I think the entire coaching staff is coming back.

Speaker 4 It might have been a blessing in disguise that you guys, you know, obviously, like, there's talk of Byron Leftwich getting a head coaching gig somewhere.

Speaker 4 There's always going to be talk about Todd Bowles with that defense that you have. You're essentially bringing back the entire team next year and the entire coaching staff.

Speaker 4 Is that something that you guys talked about? Like, how soon after the game did y'all wait to get together and be like, hey, who here is committed? Let's do this again.

Speaker 6 I think it was like, I think that Monday, I think.

Speaker 6 Then we had our team meeting.

Speaker 1 We had things like that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 6 they gave you a speech. He's like, man, we want this team to stay together and they're going to try their best to keep us together.
And like I said, I don't mind.

Speaker 6 I mean, they had a rumor saying that I said

Speaker 6 I probably want to stay if I get most of the carries, which is not true. I never came my mouth.
You know what I mean? So, I mean, I enjoy that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 That one and two puncher man Rojo, you know, and it kind of saves your body a lot too. You know, and I think this team,

Speaker 6 we could do something special if we stay together again. So, hopefully,

Speaker 6 they make something happen, they get it done. I would love to, I would love to rejoin, you know, but things happen.
You know, if it doesn't work out, you know, it happens.

Speaker 6 So, just staying prayed up, never let my agents and them deal with that. Right now, I'm still celebrating the world champion.
That's like, listen, that's hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's hard.

Speaker 6 Yes. That's hard.
So, like, I went from Lobardy Lennon to playoff Linux to Super Bowl Lennon. So now everybody's called me champ.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Champion. And you had the tweet, which I love when you sign with the Bucs and you're like, I can't wait to play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And then, and then you quote your like, I can't wait to win the Super Bowl. It's all been pretty cool.
And I know that it's not, you know, last time you were on, which we hashed that out,

Speaker 1 I was, you know, regular season Lenny, maybe not always the best, but playoff Lenny's a different beast. And you're family now.
You actually said that to us. So you have to, you are family.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 Barstool Lenny.

Speaker 1 Barstool Lenny.

Speaker 4 Do you want to blog for us?

Speaker 1 I would love to. Okay.

Speaker 4 I'd say all you have to do, just like make a tweet thread, and then I'll just embed that tweet thread into a blog and we'll just say it's from Barstool Lenny.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 anytime you tweet a thread, we're we're going to blog it for you, okay?

Speaker 6 All right, say less.

Speaker 1 All right, well, Leonard, thank you so much, man. Congrats again.

Speaker 1 Lombardi Lenny is, I mean, it's a great nickname. So I have one last question.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's a great nickname.

Speaker 4 I'm just curious, what's the going rate? How much did you guys pay the officials before the game?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, nah, nah, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie to you.

Speaker 6 We came out with it on our minds.

Speaker 6 We knew it was going to be a battle. We just came out fighting, man.
That's all we did.

Speaker 1 That's all.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it wasn't ass kicking.

Speaker 4 That's one game you can point to and be like, the more physical team won that game. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, wait. Also, how many people are you taking out to dinner? Because you said you tweeted the other day, spread the word, I want to take some of my brothers from 2014 out to dinner.

Speaker 6 So it's from. It's from my high school, right? Okay.
I went to St. Augustine High School.
So

Speaker 6 my graduate class everybody graduated i i have people who come that's what i'm gonna take out to eat you know um

Speaker 6 you know that just like it's different you know i mean you know you have your college friends you know you know guys in the nfl but i think i cherish high school so much you know i enjoyed high school so much like i still have a friendship with those guys you know we still talk we still have a group message with each other you know so in my school you know you might go to you might switch schools but my school i went i went to sign off from my seventh grade year to my senior year in high school

Speaker 6 so we grew from boys to men.

Speaker 1 And you guys have a lot of people out to dinner now.

Speaker 6 I mean, you know, that Super Bowl check, it pays off, so I got it.

Speaker 1 All right. I saw a lot of people replying, being like, yo, can I come? So

Speaker 1 maybe when the pandemic ends, we'll go out to dinner with you.

Speaker 1 We can split it with you, but that would be fun.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the boss through luncheon.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 Featuring Lombardi Lenny. All right, well, thanks so much.
We really appreciate it, man, and we'll keep in touch.

Speaker 6 I appreciate it, my guys.

Speaker 1 Thanks for having me once again. All right.
Thanks, man. Take care.

Speaker 4 Enjoy your offseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We'll do.

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Speaker 4 Here's Chris Hogan.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome welcome on a very special guest, Super Bowl champion, Chris Hogan, who is now

Speaker 1 entered, officially entered the PLL draft. We are PLL owners.
We figured it'd be good to have him on. Talk about football, talk about lacrosse.
So, Chris, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 Are you officially a pro lacrosse player, or do you have to be drafted? Is there like a chance you might not be drafted?

Speaker 6 I'm entering the draft, so I still have to be drafted.

Speaker 4 drafted okay i don't think that there's a chance i don't actually you know what let's put up some smoke screen we won't we're not gonna we're not gonna take you we've got you off our big board we're just we're smokescreen a little bit actually i'd like to ask you some questions as as somebody who is uh kind of going through the combine interview process right now i figured this was going to be an official interview here yeah yeah exactly so well first of all i i'd just like to know do you really love lacrosse because you took a lot of time off

Speaker 1 i mean i chose it over football when i went to go play college um wait now, did you choose it over football or did

Speaker 1 lacrosse choose you? Could you have made the Penn State football team? I don't know.

Speaker 6 That's a question somebody might, someone might ask. But I mean, I put all my eggs into lacrosse when I got to college.

Speaker 6 I loved lacrosse, always have loved lacrosse, knew that I was going to make my way back to the sport some way, shape, or form when I was done playing football.

Speaker 6 Thought about walking on to the Penn State football team, but

Speaker 6 I was having too much fun

Speaker 6 playing lacrosse at Penn State.

Speaker 1 So wait, are you done playing football, though?

Speaker 6 I am not officially retired. So that door is still open.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Some may say, though, you're juggling too many things at once.

Speaker 1 Can you, what do you, what's a word, Billy, give us a word. Can you stick, can you cradle and

Speaker 1 dangle? How are you doing? Can you dangle and cradle at the same time?

Speaker 6 I'm a multi-talented guy. I can do it all.

Speaker 4 Okay. My favorite question that they ask at the Combine is: Would you rather be a cat or a dog?

Speaker 1 Dog.

Speaker 4 What is that? That's the right answer, but I'm just curious.

Speaker 6 I'm a dog. I'm a dog person.
I'm a dog lover. I have two great danes myself.
Okay.

Speaker 6 They follow me around everywhere. I'm a dog person.

Speaker 4 Would you be amenable to

Speaker 4 maybe changing your name if we were to draft you to sell more jerseys? Like, I was thinking,

Speaker 4 what's a good lacrosse? Just Chad. Like,

Speaker 4 your share.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just Chad.

Speaker 4 How many lacrosse jerseys do you think we would sell if it was if it was Chris Hogan, but it was just Chad, number five on the back?

Speaker 6 Just Chad? Yeah. The Chad or just Chad?

Speaker 4 I think just Chad Pierce.

Speaker 1 Or Hulk. We could just do Hulk.
We could do Hulk, too.

Speaker 6 Hulk might be a better seller.

Speaker 1 There is actually a Chris Hogan who seems like he's more accomplished than you because he has a bunch of books about how to become a millionaire. Do you know that?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I know. He actually pops up when you Google my name.
He pops up before me. I think his picture does as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how to become an everyday millionaire. You should write that book and be like, play lacrosse and football.

Speaker 6 I know. I look at all my Twitter mentions and actually started following this guy, seeing like what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm curious, like on an actual note, like to know how coming from lacrosse into football, like how long did it take you to really get to the level with your hands, those like fine skills that you use in football that may not have gotten that much practice while you were playing in college.

Speaker 4 Like, how long did it take you to get to a point where you're like, yeah, you know what? I think I can actually be an NFL wide receiver?

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 the transition is so, it's like effortless because just the eye-hand coordination, the dodging,

Speaker 6 you know, the conditioning, the physical part of the both games, like playing receiver and then playing like midfielder attack is so similar.

Speaker 6 And then I think the biggest thing for me, like when I was playing lacrosse, like trying to go over to play football was like learning how to run routes.

Speaker 6 That was like the biggest thing for me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What about, did, how often did Belichick just like pull you aside just to talk about lacrosse?

Speaker 6 Honestly, we, we, we had a little banter going back and forth because he's a big Hopkins guy. Yeah.
So Penn State and uh Hopkins, they went into the Big Ten a few years ago together.

Speaker 6 So there was a little bit of that rivalry going going around. And Petro, the head coach at Hopkins at the time, he would come by every now and then.

Speaker 6 So, and they had, you know, there was that building was littered with lacrosse guys. You know, his sons were both there.

Speaker 6 Mike Tallegrino, he was a little college lacrosse player play at Hopkins.

Speaker 6 He's a coach there. So, you know, there was lacrosse talk going on.

Speaker 1 I heard you lit up Steve Belichick in college. Is that true? Was there any animosity that lingered after that?

Speaker 6 Zero, Zero animosity. And that story is,

Speaker 6 I can't tell you whether that's true or not.

Speaker 6 I knew I played against Steve, but

Speaker 6 we didn't know each other at the time.

Speaker 1 Did you light him up?

Speaker 6 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 That Billy is right here saying yes. So we have a resident football.

Speaker 6 I mean, there's probably some video evidence of it then, if it's out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy, what did you hear?

Speaker 4 He had a couple points on him.

Speaker 4 I looked at the Rutgers Penn State game box score.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
All right. So you lit him up a couple points.
You lit him up for him. Billy legitimately said he scored like 100 goals on him.
No.

Speaker 4 No, Billy's pre-interview notes for us were like, you lit him up. It was sweet.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Chris, I'm off camera, but I actually met you in middle school at a football camp,

Speaker 4 Joe Namath football camp, and you were really awesome. And I just wanted to say, like, yo, that was so cool.

Speaker 1 You don't have to answer that, Chris.

Speaker 1 Do you wait? No, no. Chris, do you remember Billy? I don't.
Where we go?

Speaker 4 I mean, I was like one of like a bunch of kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, maybe he remembered you, bro.

Speaker 6 Where was the football camp?

Speaker 4 It was at West Con, Joe Nanos Football Camp.

Speaker 6 Oh, okay. Joe Namos.
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
There's a lot of kids there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Yeah, but there's only one Billy.
I look like everyone.

Speaker 1 Get in front of the camera and see if he remembers you.

Speaker 6 We probably got a picture of it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you have a picture? I I think I do.
Okay, all right. We'll have to find that picture.
That's a cool story, Billy. Yeah, can I actually ask him? Yeah, ask a question.
Go ahead, ask a question.

Speaker 1 He's very, Chris. He's our intern.
He's very excited to talk to you. He played lacrosse and football, so he's modeled his entire life off of you.

Speaker 4 No, I actually have some, you know, coming back to the game, coming back to the lacrosse from football,

Speaker 4 of course, you're an amazing athlete. Do you think you're going to go into, you know, these guys are pro lacrosse players.
They're, you know, been in the game for longer.

Speaker 4 You know, they're back in the game. But

Speaker 4 do you think you have the skill set and the offensive stick handling to actually be an offensive threat? Because I know you're going to be an amazing short stick defensive MIDI.

Speaker 4 I know you're going to be great in transition because you're an amazing athlete. Do you think you have the skill set? And,

Speaker 4 you know, do you think there's any rust, or do you think you can have the same offensive production as you did at Penn State?

Speaker 6 Good question.

Speaker 6 I think where my game will excel when I first get back into playing will, like you said, will be that fast-paced transition game,

Speaker 6 trying to create those different

Speaker 6 three-on-four situations, just trying to use my

Speaker 6 speed and my athleticism. But

Speaker 6 I'm putting a lot of work in to

Speaker 6 try to contribute on offense as well. And I think the more that I continue to train and

Speaker 6 work on my stick skills and shooting. And there's a lot that goes into it.
But

Speaker 6 I'm really looking forward to the opportunity to try to get on the field and contribute in every single way that I can.

Speaker 6 And being on the offensive side of things will be one thing that I'm looking forward to that challenge.

Speaker 4 So for the last seven years,

Speaker 4 have you actively kept up with playing lacrosse? Would it be something that you would do to unwind after football practice?

Speaker 4 Or like, I'll go in the backyard, throw the ball around a little bit, or was it something you pick up on?

Speaker 1 It's not like something that I had.

Speaker 6 I had a stick in the locker room. Yeah.
And I would, I would play, you know, have a catch with some of some of the guys play lacrosse at Penn State. I mean, I'm the Patriots.

Speaker 6 Some of the guys in Carolina, you know, I toss it around a little bit.

Speaker 6 You know, when I was ever, when I was in the summer, you know, down the shore, I mean, my wife played. You know, we would.
you know, we would toss it around a little bit.

Speaker 6 So I've had a stick in my hands. It's not like I haven't picked up a stick in 10 years and this is like some foreign thing to me.

Speaker 6 You know, it's going to take some, it's like riding a bike for me, like picking up a stick. But I think getting back into actually playing lacrosse and the game, the game has changed since I played.

Speaker 1 How so? I mean, we know because we're lacrosse heads, but

Speaker 4 other basketball. Yeah, we're basketball.
There's more.

Speaker 1 It's faster. Okay.
There's more

Speaker 1 changes.

Speaker 6 It's super fast. Quick whistles.

Speaker 6 You know, when I played, you know, there was,

Speaker 6 you had to get it in the box in 10, you know, within 10 seconds. The whistles, you know, there were more whistles and longer time in between whistles.

Speaker 6 It's like everything now is just, it's fast-paced. And I think that's,

Speaker 6 I'm looking forward to that because I think that would be fun for me,

Speaker 6 you know, to kind of get back into that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy, how do you like your pocket? Are you a low-pocket guy, high-pocket?

Speaker 1 What kind of shooting strings do you use? I mean, what kind of mesh?

Speaker 1 Just wondering.

Speaker 1 No, it's a good question.

Speaker 6 I'm using epic lacrosse sticks and all their gear right now. And I think that's probably the one thing I'm trying to figure out the most is that, you know, how you like your pocket?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, that changed too. You have to have a certain number of shooting strings in there.
When I've played, you could have

Speaker 1 or you could have whatever. You're rocking three U's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 it's changed a little bit, but

Speaker 6 I'm not like that concerned about it. I'm more of a, I'm a high-pocket guy to answer your question.

Speaker 4 Okay. Who is who do you think would have been the best player on those Patriots teams?

Speaker 4 If they like one of the guys that didn't play lacrosse, who would have been able to make the transition to the game easiest?

Speaker 6 I mean, just his athleticism alone, probably, I mean, probably Gronk, to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 You know, Gronk wouldn't even have to worry about like stick skills. I mean, a guy can, you know, just the stick would be invisible.

Speaker 6 You'd stick him on attack and he'd be able to run through everybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, I've been, and, you know that there's some other guys too i mean you stick like

Speaker 6 you know a guy like jonathan jones you know who can just flat out fly i mean gonna be tough to cover you know if he gets a running head start um you know there's and all those guys are super athletic i don't think they could pick up a stick and just be good at it right away but if they put some time into it i think they could be good good lacrosse players Do you,

Speaker 1 obviously, I assume you watch the Super Bowl. Do you keep in touch with Tom Brady at all?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I text him every now and then and text him after the Super Bowl, told him that I was super happy for him.

Speaker 6 It was pretty cool to watch him all year and what he was able to do. And

Speaker 6 it was fun. It was fun to watch him kind of solidify

Speaker 6 his legacy, you know, go to a team. that didn't even make a playoffs the year before, have a winning season, and turn that whole, you know, that whole organization around and go win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's uh that's nothing short of uh amazing right there do you and julian edelman or were you guys did you guys text at all being a little jealous of scotty miller

Speaker 1 like that he kind of he kind of stole your guy's shtick

Speaker 6 uh i liked uh no we didn't have any bad i was happy for that kid i mean he's uh

Speaker 6 he reminds me so much of like my role when i was my first year with the patriots you know just kind of you know he's i mean that kid can fly.

Speaker 6 I mean, he's definitely, he's a little faster than me, but, you know, just that deep, that deep threat,

Speaker 6 you know, really taking it, you know, taking advantage of all the opportunities that he got. I mean, he had a, he had a solid year

Speaker 6 with Tom. So it was, uh, it was fun to watch.

Speaker 6 No animosity towards the kid, though. I mean, he had an awesome year.
I'm, Julian might have been a little salty about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 He definitely was. And he'd probably be the first one to say that.
We're, we're, I guess we consider ourselves pretty good friends with Jules.

Speaker 4 And we always bring up to him how thirsty he is on instagram he always has those pictures with like nine abs out that he obviously puts like extra filters on he probably has a guy that just photoshops his stomach did he ever make you like he's always got a shirt off yeah did he make you take pictures of him ever no no no no that i drew the line there no pictures taken

Speaker 1 obviously you're i mean I don't want to assume, but I assume your body wasn't as good as his or isn't as good as his because otherwise you would have some shirts off, right?

Speaker 6 i mean i i just i don't like to flaunt you know my body on social media the way that he does you know yeah he's out there you know trying to find his girlfriend and you know i found my i found my forever forever one she's sitting right next to me right now laughing probably at him but

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 The best one was he did, it was a Father's Day post, and it was his dad, like behind him, and he had a shirt off. And we gave him, he was like, I love my dad.

Speaker 1 It's like, but that's just you with your shirt off, dude. So we gave him some shit for that.
But

Speaker 1 listen, if I

Speaker 1 look like Julian Edelman, I would never have my shirt on either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so we kind of hit it.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 So we were looking through the course of your career here in the NFL.

Speaker 4 What happened in 2019 when you were like, you know what? I'm going to play for a team that's not in the AFC East for the first time ever.

Speaker 6 It was, I mean, that was my first year hitting free agency so that was um

Speaker 6 you know it was a it was a cool experience it was definitely different um

Speaker 6 and carolina had called and

Speaker 6 i went down there visited with them uh greg olson you know the guy that i've kept you know he we went to played at rival high schools a little bit older than me um that team just was pretty stellar and uh i thought that they had a good chance of you know being really really good and obviously you know we were kind of riddled with injuries that year and didn't really go the way that we wanted it to but it was uh it was i was excited to kind of get out of the afc east for once and experience um you know the different side of the league um you know it was it was fun that team was awesome and playing with mccaffrey and those guys i mean that kid is you know he's incredible yeah um all right so when is the actual uh PLL draft we know we should know I do know but I'm just curious what you think this is one of the pre-draft questions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see how prepared you are.

Speaker 6 March 25th.

Speaker 1 March 25th, exactly. Yep.

Speaker 1 Are you going to have like cameras in your house ready for draft day and everything?

Speaker 6 That's

Speaker 6 we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Okay. I mean, I'm excited about it.
We'll see. You know, I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 6 I mean, I'm kind of hoping that I get drafted and I get the opportunity to play with these guys. And,

Speaker 6 you know, I'm definitely working towards it.

Speaker 4 You don't have any like weed gas mask pictures that are going to come out on the 25th, right?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Oh, there's no skeletons in my closet.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good, good.
What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 4 Where would you want to end up? Which PLL team would you want to play? And who are you excited if you get the opportunity to play with?

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 I got some

Speaker 6 fellow Penn Staters.

Speaker 6 Grant Ament, obviously, he's new to the league and he plays for the Archers. It'd be cool to play with them.

Speaker 6 Drew Adams is another guy

Speaker 6 who would be fun to play with.

Speaker 6 Honestly,

Speaker 6 wherever I end up, I'm just excited about the opportunity just to kind of play with these guys. Good answer.

Speaker 4 It really doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 6 Good answer. I'm just

Speaker 6 looking forward to getting out in the field with these guys and trying to compete with them.

Speaker 1 Great answer. That's a very Belichickian patriot.
Like, yeah, that's a good answer.

Speaker 6 This is not my first time being drilled with these questions.

Speaker 1 I don't have an answer.

Speaker 4 This is probably since I'm part of the owner organization.

Speaker 1 You're not. Yeah, Yeah, no, you're not.

Speaker 1 You're like an intern for you have no shares.

Speaker 4 I know, but can I just ask a question? So Miles Jones is driving down the lane. How are you playing defense on Miles Jones? He's probably built like Gronk.
He's big.

Speaker 1 He's coming at you to talk about bulldodging you.

Speaker 4 Are you going to take him on?

Speaker 1 Do you think you can do it? I mean, you play in the NFL.

Speaker 6 I mean, I'm not. I'm not going to, I'm not one to shy away from contact.

Speaker 6 You know, I mean,

Speaker 6 I've been doing it for the last 10 years and

Speaker 6 been taking some pretty good shots from guys that are even bigger than that guy. So I think

Speaker 6 I'll take my chances, see what happens. I don't know how it'll turn out, but I'm not going to shy away from it.

Speaker 1 Great question, Billy Bill. You literally were just asking,

Speaker 1 can you take on a guy who's taller than you?

Speaker 1 That was what your question was.

Speaker 1 Everything goes down to like fights and hype with Billy Bill.

Speaker 6 I've seen him dodge. He's a physical dodger.

Speaker 1 He's a really good player, but

Speaker 6 we'll see. Maybe I'll get the opportunity to let that happen.

Speaker 4 I've always been curious because you don't get to watch your NFL games at home on TV unless you go back and you watch the broadcast.

Speaker 4 But it seemed like the only thing that you would ever discuss with Chris Collinsworth in your production meetings was the fact that you used to play lacrosse. Yeah.

Speaker 4 How much time did you spend going over that with like Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Collinsworth, Al Michaels, those guys?

Speaker 6 I mean, I didn't, it was like, it kind of took off after that one Monday night game where I mentioned, you know, Penn State lacrosse.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 I think from there, I just did a ton of stories. I mean, I never really did a lot of like, you know, you know, backstory with these guys.
And,

Speaker 6 you know, the day before games in the media, I think I did a ton of press about it, you know, getting into the league and,

Speaker 6 you know, leading up to the first Super Bowl. There was, you know, a ton of, you know, a ton of articles and a ton of stuff written about my past and where I came from.

Speaker 6 And that just kind of followed with me wherever I went for my entire career was, this guy was a little cross player.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It became, I think it's from our perspective, it's like the Antonio Gates played basketball in college.

Speaker 4 Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it becomes a storyline that you can't escape. And that's the first thing that everyone thinks of, which is good in this case, because March 25th, people are like, oh, yeah, Chris Hogan.

Speaker 1 Well, one, he's the millionaire on uh on online who sells best-selling books and two he's the football slash lacrosse player exactly yeah um all right well we will I can we can't tell you that we're gonna draft you all right Billy has one last question we can't tell you that we're gonna draft you but we're looking forward to possibly drafting you and giving you a shot on March 25th and we'll end with Billy's last question which I'm sure will have something to do with height no no it has to do with this football's awesome of course okay duh but you know when you play football, it starts to become a job.

Speaker 4 Would you say lacrosse is more fun?

Speaker 6 I mean, I think we're

Speaker 6 trending in the direction where lacrosse is going to become people's jobs.

Speaker 6 I mean, we're professional athletes. That's our job.
Right. So we're trying to, you know, what the PLL is trying to do, what Rabel is trying to do is grow this sport so that this is a job for guys.

Speaker 6 You know, this will become a way for people to just make a living. And guys are already making a living doing it.
And that's their job.

Speaker 6 I wouldn't say one's, one's more fun than the other. I mean, for me, I'm a competitor.
I like to compete, you know, and I get to compete.

Speaker 6 I got to do it for the last 10 years with the best athletes in the world playing football. And now I'm going to be able to do it again, just playing a different sport.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, it was my job to be a professional football player. And now hopefully I'll have another job, you know, being a professional cross player.

Speaker 4 But more from the angle of actually playing the sport, like you know, football, you're worried about like your assignment, you're like making the right read, whereas lacrosse is just a little more free-form.

Speaker 4 Billy just wants you to say that lacrosse is more fun.

Speaker 1 Let's just cut your taste.

Speaker 4 Can you just talk?

Speaker 6 You're just dancing around it because I'm trying to give the more political answers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just say it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'll run Billy through a translator here. Talk about how sweet it is to play lacrosse.

Speaker 6 It is super sweet, bro.

Speaker 1 How fast do you shoot?

Speaker 6 I haven't been clock. I mean, I was clocked in high school.

Speaker 6 My left hand was like 100.

Speaker 4 Can you shoot? What can you shoot with your right?

Speaker 6 I think it was like 95, 96 or something around there.

Speaker 1 Draft him. Draft him? Yeah.
How fast can you shoot, Billy?

Speaker 4 I shot in eighth grade. I shot 89 miles per hour.

Speaker 1 Whoa, so that was clearly the highest.

Speaker 4 Well, I didn't fastest. Well, then I focused on football.

Speaker 1 Oh, got it.

Speaker 4 And also, this is the entire reason Billy brought up how fast can you shoot so that we could ask him how fast he shot when he was in eighth grade as like a freak as a two-year-old I

Speaker 1 was like four miles an hour. So you can imagine the potential I had.

Speaker 4 I have to say, Chris, you are good.

Speaker 4 You've got the Belichickian Patriot Way media training down really well. Was that something?

Speaker 4 Did you have training sessions where they'd be like, here's how to answer specific questions?

Speaker 6 Yeah, he would go over some different things, but like, you also didn't want to walk into

Speaker 6 a Monday meeting the day after a game or just another meeting where you were the highlight of that team meeting because you said something stupid to the media so it was always kind of you know speak for yourself speak about the team and nobody else and you know i kind of i i could i i drived with that so like i was i didn't want to you know step on anyone's toes i didn't want bill to call me out in front of the entire team which he certainly would if he said something stupid so i adopted the Patriot way immediately when I got there.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. And now that makes you very draftable for the water dogs.
Chris, thank you very much. Good luck, March 25th.
Hopefully you're on our team.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure I'll just, Billy will have some follow-up questions. I'll email you or whatever.

Speaker 1 Thanks, man.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 1 Hank, you want to start? Sure.

Speaker 1 what's your favorite fast?

Speaker 1 Uh, PFT farted yesterday inside

Speaker 1 uh Stoolstream Stadium and has not admitted it. And it's getting to the point now where I'm it's just like I don't know what to do.

Speaker 4 I didn't even poop yesterday. How could I have farted? I didn't poop since Sunday night.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that mean you were more likely to fart?

Speaker 4 No, it means I was airtight. There was nothing getting in, nothing getting out.
I didn't fart. This is Hank doing fraud scenes.

Speaker 1 I can't remember if you had my back or not with the Mountain Dew bottle. I think I was just rooting for chaos in that situation.
No, then I don't give a fuck about it.

Speaker 4 I will root for everything to happen between you two.

Speaker 4 At the end of the stool streams yesterday, which is actually a very ironic name to have a program name that where there's a fart controversy.

Speaker 4 But we had just lost the championship, and on the replay of the video, there was a loud fart noise. I was right there.

Speaker 4 It was like me, Liz, Spider,

Speaker 4 who else is Big Ev,

Speaker 4 Jake, our darling Jake, and Jeff were also in there. And I didn't hear a fart as it happened.
There was a fart in the video that was almost like a loud cartoonish fart.

Speaker 4 I actually think that Hank had like a soundboard in the truck, a fart board, piped it in to get more views on his little video that he was putting out.

Speaker 4 And then he wrote like two blogs about it, and he's tried to squeeze content out of it.

Speaker 1 TFT has been really going out of his way to create

Speaker 1 other circumstances that it might have been instead of just denying it. It's not like it wasn't me.
It was like, I think you did.

Speaker 1 I don't think it ever happened.

Speaker 1 I would have

Speaker 1 told you.

Speaker 1 Out of the blue, it was like, you know, the fart happened. You probably felt a little guilty about it.
And then lo and behold,

Speaker 1 almost guilty about it. Almost minutes after the broadcast ended, PFT tweeted, I haven't pooped in days.
Okay, so just clearing your name for no reason.

Speaker 4 You didn't even see Hank lying about everything. After Hank wrote a second blog about it, you wrote two blogs.

Speaker 1 I wrote one blog. And then tagged him.
Which is basically worth like five because I don't really know what it is.

Speaker 1 So you wrote five blogs. Essentially, yeah.
Yeah. That's a lot of blogs about it, Hank.
And it means you probably were trying to boost the ratings. Yes.
Yes, no, I'm trying to tag.

Speaker 1 You did fart, right?

Speaker 4 No, I didn't fart. Hank kept tagging me, trying to get a pity retweet or something out of me.
No, petty retweet. Petty retweet.
And I had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 4 And all of a sudden, everybody was like, yo, PFT, did you fart? I didn't fart. I would admit if I farted.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 I was physically incapable of farting until about 9 o'clock last night when I finally pooped.

Speaker 1 Hank, let me ask you a question. Why do you think PFT is so ashamed to admit that he farted? I don't know why.

Speaker 1 We've looked at the film. We've pulled all the angles.
The people that were closest, whose asses were closest to the microphones, were PFT, Spider, and Big Ev.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I think it was PFT, but I really don't know.

Speaker 4 Don't you have a mic?

Speaker 1 Let me ask you.

Speaker 1 I was in the control room. Yeah, but you have a mic.
No. It could have been you.

Speaker 1 No, that's not how it works.

Speaker 1 This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 He's really trying to deflect. Deflect flexibility.

Speaker 1 One question that we're not asking is where was jake during this entire i wouldn't lie i would puss up right away that's and also i don't think he'd ever fart on a broadcast you would have to a pretty significant apology do you think pft do you think that this is a very low move of hank yes to try to boost the viewership of stool streams the thing he's obsessed about more than anything else in the world with just a simple fart i think it's a yes it's a very low move it's sophomoric i frankly would expect if i was to do that that would be a genius move that's like diabolically smart, but I'm not capable of doing thinking that far in advance to be like, okay, championship, we know we've had to cancel it a hundred times.

Speaker 1 Let's add in a fart sound effect

Speaker 1 right when the thing ends, and then I just I'm not a good liar like that. I don't have the capabilities to put all that in motion and then do this witch hunt.

Speaker 1 Okay, so now that I've got all the facts, I'll fart into a microphone.

Speaker 4 We can cross-reference my fart. Well, you should, yes.
You should make everybody sound like that.

Speaker 1 It was like a shit.

Speaker 1 I'll put the sound in. Someone shit their pants.
That's the one that's a fancy. And you also.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck the shark is. But they weren't f ⁇ ing.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck the shark is. But they weren't f ⁇ ing.

Speaker 4 You should make everybody feel like someone's a microphone and then do fart print analysis and compare it to the audio waves and see whose assholes it is.

Speaker 1 I have one last thing

Speaker 1 to present to the jury before you make your decision.

Speaker 1 It's really not about the fart itself. Everyone farts.
Everybody poops. Everyone knows that.

Speaker 1 If I was to make a comparable situation, it's like if we put out a video, we're in the part of my take studio, we all thought it was a great video, and then all of a sudden in the comments, people are like, who ripped ass?

Speaker 1 And then you go back and listen and you're like, someone ripped ass. You would want to know who it was.
Agreed, yes.

Speaker 1 That is where I'm at, where it's like, I don't care who it was, but the fact that no one is admitting it is driving me crazy.

Speaker 1 But the thing is, and you are going out of your way to like, you are being very defensive.

Speaker 4 I'm just responding to Hank tagging me like six times. I wasn't even going to comment on it because I knew it wasn't me.
In fact, I didn't even hear a fart while we were there.

Speaker 4 That fart is so loud that I would have definitely heard it. Spider didn't hear one.

Speaker 1 There was a confetting machine going off. There's a lot of things going on.
The issue I'm having here is Hank does make a good point that he's too dumb to actually plan something like this out.

Speaker 1 And you are being very defensive. I don't know.
Billy, you decide.

Speaker 4 You know, if no one actually heard it in the building, I think it's much more likely to be interference.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 4 I think people want to put a fart.

Speaker 1 Have you heard it yet?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was a little wet. It was like...
It was too...

Speaker 1 It was very you know honestly it was a whap fart it is also very the timing is pre is nothing short of what is it the michael scott nothing short of predominant that you also have been talking non-stop about your bowel movements or lack thereof correct i haven't really been talking about my bowel movements until after that that's why i brought it up You were tweeting about Skyline Chili thing.

Speaker 1 And correct me if I'm wrong, PFG. Did you or did you not shit your pants within the last seven days? Yep.
Also,

Speaker 1 it's been a big bowel movement week talk.

Speaker 4 I tweeted out the Skyline Chili thing after stool streams yesterday.

Speaker 1 Right, but that was afterwards. He is right.
It has been

Speaker 1 a main storyline this week.

Speaker 4 It has. It's been bowel week.
And I'll tell you what, if it was my asshole, it wouldn't have sounded wet because

Speaker 4 that was the farthest thing from what my bowel was like yesterday. You know what? Dry as a rock.

Speaker 4 I think it's time.

Speaker 4 Have you gotten a colonoscopy lately?

Speaker 1 No, you couldn't fit anything up there.

Speaker 4 I'm just.

Speaker 1 I think it might

Speaker 1 time.

Speaker 4 No, I think you guys are getting to that.

Speaker 4 I've still got 13 years.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Honestly, it wasn't me if you want to pin it on me. Hank, I tell you what.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things where I thought it was a funny thing, and I was like, ah, you know, we'll get to the bottom of it, and we'll admit it, and no one's admitting it now.

Speaker 1 And it's just like kind of like. And when people get defensive, it's like, wait, what's going on? I got you.

Speaker 4 I only got defensive after Hank put me on the defense.

Speaker 1 I just asked, was it you? That's all I asked.

Speaker 4 They're being very accusatory. You started the second offense.

Speaker 1 You were one of four people.

Speaker 1 And I was like a

Speaker 1 good cop, bad cop,

Speaker 1 just get it out of the way.

Speaker 4 Can't you triangulate that audio?

Speaker 1 Yeah. We're working on it.

Speaker 1 We've sent it out to the mass, to the people that do that type of stuff. The FIFA forensic files.

Speaker 4 I will fart into a microphone if you need to compare. I don't care.
I'm an open book.

Speaker 1 All right, so PFT, what's your firefest besides the fact that you got caught

Speaker 1 farting into a microphone and deny it?

Speaker 4 That I'm constipated. Okay.
Yeah, that's my firefest. Which is nothing to do with it.
Which is the other thing. No, which is tough.

Speaker 4 It actually, I don't think that I farted in between Monday and Thursday night is the thing. So it actually couldn't have been me.
But let that be a lesson.

Speaker 4 If you do have any sort of medical procedure and they give you pain medicine, mix in several prunes. I'm talking prune juice.
I'm talking all the fiber that you can find.

Speaker 4 I had to just say, I'm done with the pain medicine because if you don't poop for three days, that throws off my entire week.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Or pack a dinger.

Speaker 4 mm-hmm so I actually or losing Jenga or losing Jenga that helps too I did chew like nine pieces of nicotine gum last night to get things going that ended up working um my other fire fest is just like shout out people in Texas dealing with it like a real fire fest right now that sucks no that sucks the snow no power no water can't take vacations without getting shamed yeah it's really tough are you a big tent cruise guy now no i just you know

Speaker 1 i'm on the front lines of vacations everywhere. I think what Hank is, yeah, Hank is just standing.
It doesn't matter, you know. Hank is just standing with

Speaker 4 a standing like, we want to go on vacation tomorrow. And he's being a good dad and being like, okay, yeah, let's go to Cancun.
Like, that's, to me, that's what Hank's going to be like.

Speaker 1 You need to have a kid. Vacation shaming in all forms is wrong.
That's my stance.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love it. I do think that politicians just should not be on Twitter at all.
I've seen way too much of politicians dunking on other politicians. Like, people that are in the Senate and

Speaker 4 House of Representatives spend like 90% of their time thinking about how they can get retweets. I think once you get elected to a national office

Speaker 4 like that, you should just not be on Twitter. There's no point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you should just interpret it. Yeah.
I got no Firefest because I survived COVID and life is good. You know, you got to celebrate the small things.

Speaker 1 Some things, big cat. Yeah, some things.
Exactly. Some things actually mean some things.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 Not trying to get other people fired or

Speaker 1 having coaches that steal money on podcasts. Some Some things.

Speaker 1 Jake,

Speaker 5 you're Firefest? Yeah, so I watch The Bachelor every week. And for some reason.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 5 For some reason, that's the only program on the only channel where the TV narrator voice just says everything.

Speaker 5 It's annoying. I can't figure it out.

Speaker 1 Wait, what do you mean? Like, you got Siri narrating The Bachelor for you? So it's

Speaker 5 Harrison.

Speaker 1 So it's like a narrator voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But it's not on any other channel. And then when like Wheel of Fortune or whatever's on beforehand, there will be no narrator.
It's just for that show.

Speaker 1 What do you mean narrator? Like

Speaker 1 a robot series.

Speaker 1 Like Siri reading the book. Oh, nobody talking.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Weird. Background, mountains, and flowers.
Weird.

Speaker 5 It's only that show every week.

Speaker 4 And only on your television. So you can't watch it.
Does that follow you?

Speaker 1 You can't watch the show. Right? Yeah, I mean, you can watch the show.
How do you watch the show?

Speaker 1 You watch the show? Yeah. With that?

Speaker 1 What? Yeah, I mean, you can do it. You are a psycho.
Do you think it is? In your little studio apartment? That's the saddest thing in America. Right there.
No, you just

Speaker 1 Monday nights suck.

Speaker 5 Well, there's Big Monday, Virginia FSU.

Speaker 1 You're sitting

Speaker 1 in your kitchen. No.
Slash bedroom. No, it's separate.
It's separate. Do you have a story? You're listening to a robot talk to you.
Yeah, there's a wall.

Speaker 4 Do you have a door in your room? The bathroom and kitchen are separate.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 4 the toilet's next to the fridge.

Speaker 1 And the fucking robots just being like, and they enter. Yeah.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Jake, only for that. Have you thought that maybe you're going insane? No.
Maybe it's all in your mind?

Speaker 1 We need to change the situation. Who you got winning, Jake?

Speaker 5 I mean, do you want to spoil it?

Speaker 1 Oh, you know?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 How do you know? Alright, so no, no talk.

Speaker 5 There's this person called Reality Steve.

Speaker 1 They know. But you go and seek him out? Yeah.
What?

Speaker 1 I like watching that one. What the fuck, Jake? I do the same thing with Big Brother.
No way. You always know the ending?

Speaker 5 Survivor, they don't really spoil it, but Big Brother and The Bachelor.

Speaker 1 I have a friend that does that for the challenge.

Speaker 1 People do.

Speaker 4 He's a good reality Steve guy. I fucking know everything.
He's just the plug. Yeah, I've heard of him.
He's just the plug.

Speaker 1 No, he does get everything great, but why do you think that? Because it's still,

Speaker 5 I like the first few weeks when it's the drama. Now they're in the Final Four right now.
There's really not drama in it.

Speaker 1 Hometowns, yeah. Yeah, hometowns.

Speaker 4 But you, fantasy sweets.

Speaker 1 You know the results, and you're in for it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I still like watching it. Wow.

Speaker 1 Do you look up movies before you go to see them?

Speaker 1 No. Why? Do you DVR games and see the result and then watch the video?

Speaker 4 No, I can't understand those people.

Speaker 5 You got to know right away.

Speaker 1 You're that person. No.
Just for the best part of it.

Speaker 4 It's the exact same thing, Jason.

Speaker 4 You rely on real. You treat Reality Steve like it's the bottom line that you're watching

Speaker 4 on a game you haven't even.

Speaker 5 I'm telling you, a lot of people do it. People will tweet us and be like, I'm not.
People will say I'm crazy, but there will be people on my side.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll see.

Speaker 1 I welcome those psychos to show up.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're Firefest?

Speaker 1 You almost fought Hank earlier.

Speaker 4 No, I'm raising it.

Speaker 1 I'm either going to go to prison

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 4 be a billionaire. I like the first thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is. Okay, this is...
Before Billy gets into this, I walked back to my desk, and Billy and Marty Mush were hot on a new

Speaker 1 financial scheme. Yeah, so it's pretty much a guarantee that it's the dumbest thing in the world.

Speaker 4 I walked in this morning, and it was the exact same thing. I sat at my desk and Marty goes, yo, PFT, you want to make some quick cash? And then Billy was like, it's awesome.

Speaker 4 We're mining cryptocurrency at our desk right now. Sounds legit.
It's humans mining, not computers.

Speaker 4 It's a very complex algorithm that you have to grasp. But a lot of people are like, a lot of fools are fools till they get success and then they're visionaries.

Speaker 1 You've definitely to convince yourself of that. Like, hey, I might be dumb today, but as soon as I'm rich, people are going to be like, that guy's smart.

Speaker 4 I just got to get a little dumber before I get really smart. So explain to me what you're doing on your phone.
It's kind of basically a cryptocurrency backed by a pyramid scheme.

Speaker 4 Okay, nice. But I think it's not like, you know, you're not buying anything.
But,

Speaker 4 so if you go on to Pi Network, use when their invite code put Billy Football. Oh, my God.
And I'm going to get so much pie. Right now, you're going to be the Steven Seagal of Pi Network.

Speaker 4 I know, but I was thinking about it. It's like Bitcoin too, James.
Either I'm going to go to jail because this is all illegal, which I don't think it is, or I'm going to make a ton of money.

Speaker 4 Well, so I knew it was a solid and

Speaker 4 sign up. Yeah, Marty Mush says to me when I sit down, he goes, How do I make money? It's free to do, and you have unlimited upside where you can make it's like the play bar stores.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this is no, no, not.

Speaker 4 Sign up and there's a chance to make money.

Speaker 1 This is the office scene where

Speaker 4 Jim draws the triangle. Yeah, so Billy's been constantly refreshing his app all day today and telling me how many pies he has.

Speaker 4 Which is worth how much? Well, it's speculative value. So how much is it worth? Well, it's worth nothing now, but it will be when the marketplace opens to use Pie.

Speaker 4 So you're down there in the coal mines.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I'm in the coal mines.

Speaker 4 You're working in crypto, yeah. And so what does it entail to mine this stuff?

Speaker 4 When this stuff... It does, you just got to click a button every day, and that's how you mine.
And then you get rich. And then you use a bunch of anti-robot stuff, so it's not computers making

Speaker 1 it to go. Do you have to give your social security number? No, you're not going to do your drum or thing.

Speaker 1 Let's do that.

Speaker 4 No, you don't have to go to that. I'm going to stick to investing in 99.

Speaker 4 Like gifts.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 1 66.

Speaker 1 67.

Speaker 1 It'd be awesome if you went to jail.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would actually be very funny. 77.
If it sticks, it might not slow Duck. It's off.
That was

Speaker 1 a little bit of a ball up. Got to do it again.

Speaker 1 Oh, do you have a fact for us? 17. Puffins lose their money.

Speaker 1 Hank, what happened?

Speaker 1 Hank, did you usually say 17?

Speaker 1 You always say 17.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to tell my strategy. There's listeners that probably could have picked up on it, and I was in between whether or not

Speaker 1 I'm just

Speaker 1 someone out there. Someone out there will be able to put a tail there, but

Speaker 1 you know his strategy. Jake knows his strategy.

Speaker 5 If I had to guess, since I always guess 18, he guesses like one next to it.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's

Speaker 1 right on the point.

Speaker 1 I have started at one, and I've just been going one, two, three, four. But

Speaker 1 I might have, I literally was saying to myself, is it 16 or 17?

Speaker 1 And I was like, 16. Oh,

Speaker 1 but I might have already said 16.

Speaker 5 And I guess 18 is like a scratch off.

Speaker 1 Oh, there you go. Right above and unbelievable.

Speaker 1 And 17 is my lucky number. Wow.
So to win on a 17 would have been

Speaker 1 unheated.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. What is Ball don't lie for?

Speaker 4 I didn't fart.

Speaker 4 Love you guys. Billy, what's the animal fact? Puffins lose their beak during the winter.
So they just walk around like a thumb? Yep, no beak. That's weird.
How do they kiss?

Speaker 4 That's sad. Love you guys.

Speaker 4 You know when when you give your love away,

Speaker 4 it all controls,

Speaker 4 everything

Speaker 4 is new.

Speaker 4 And you know, time will always find your way

Speaker 4 to lose your heart to

Speaker 4 stream.

Speaker 4 You know, love is

Speaker 4 everything you say.

Speaker 4 I'll press the water.

Speaker 4 I'll just show that

Speaker 4 you

Speaker 4 believe that I'll be talking to you.

Speaker 4 You know this is the way that I lose.

Speaker 4 Oh no,

Speaker 4 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 4 no, no,

Speaker 4 we

Speaker 4 are

Speaker 4 not going to be a little bit more.

Speaker 4 love and sometimes make you high.

Speaker 4 So let the tears go

Speaker 4 away.

Speaker 4 For you know love, I'll I've always let you have

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 won't forget.

Speaker 4 Oh my god,

Speaker 4 we

Speaker 4 are

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 You don't have love shining in your eyes.

Speaker 4 Yet maybe this won't

Speaker 4 all the wall.

Speaker 4 And you know what the spirits give

Speaker 4 you.

Speaker 4 Oh, night and

Speaker 4 the water.