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Speaker 3 On today's part of my take, we have seven-time NBA champion, big shot.

Speaker 3 Bob Robert Ory. Awesome interview with Robert Ory.

Speaker 3 The guy's been through like a million different awesome awesome NBA stories and series and teammates and everything.

Speaker 4 Coaches, we have guys on chicks.

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Speaker 3 Great to see you, Billy.

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Speaker 3 Welcome to Pardon My Tape presented by Chevy Silverado, the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever. Today is Wednesday, February 17th, and everyone is quitting on Coach K.

Speaker 4 It's the beginning of the end of the season. I give Coach K.

Speaker 7 I thought you were saying everyone's quitting on hard body.

Speaker 3 Oh, is that that you who tweeted that picture? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, first of all, Hank, we tried mixing in salads. We tried getting healthy, and nothing bad,

Speaker 4 nothing good

Speaker 3 has happened. It got me cold.

Speaker 4 Coach, we ate salads. We started eating salads two weeks ago.
In that time frame, Big Cat's passed a kidney stone. I've passed a kidney stone.
I've got like seven more on deck.

Speaker 4 Big Cat got coronavirus.

Speaker 3 You got bronchitis. Jake got potty mouth.
Liam is probably going to get hit by a car again.

Speaker 3 Billy's back. Nothing good's happening.
Yeah. So fuck eating healthy.
What are you going to say, Liam?

Speaker 3 I locked myself out of my apartment yesterday. That was probably worse than going to the bottom.
And on your way to get a salad, right?

Speaker 3 He's going to guarantee you all the cars in New Jersey were like, fresh meat, baby. Fresh meat on the roadway.
Kid doesn't have an apartment. Gonna mow him down.
I'm still here. It was Potty Mouth.

Speaker 3 With Potty Mouth. For charity.
You have Potty Mouth. For charity.
That's a fact. Billy, do you have anything to say for this? You are our doctor.
I got a sunburn. sunburn okay great

Speaker 3 billy billy's problem is he vacationed too hard coward you you you pull the coward yeah what you pull

Speaker 3 sick stuff you were outside too much you get close to the sun he was strained because he was on it he was dropping in off his helicopter he was doing some copter what do you call it chopper skiing what is what is that hella hella skiing he was hella skiing uh all right so moving on

Speaker 3 moving on back to duke

Speaker 3 everyone's quitting on duke

Speaker 3 hang comment

Speaker 7 i'm I'm just curious: how do you get more than one kidney stone at one time?

Speaker 3 Oh, come on, Hank.

Speaker 4 Let's not deflect on this.

Speaker 3 No, they actually do come in threes. Really? Yeah, I've got...
I got one. He got two.

Speaker 4 I have an indetermined amount of kidney stones. I actually have an appointment.
I'm running out of names for them. I already got Stony Romo, Stony Saragusa, Kidney Ponstone, Kid Rock.

Speaker 4 I've got a lot lined up, but not enough to deal with all the shit that's going through my system right now.

Speaker 4 Although, many people have told me, and Big K, you can attest to this, that passing a kidney stone through your kidney into your bladder is actually more painful than childbirth yeah so

Speaker 4 um yeah i i know all you uh award-winning listening females out there that are giving birth i feel your pain it sucks but uh you know what i did i didn't miss a show i don't think the cowboy hat works oh no i disagree

Speaker 3 you liar i have gotten i've gotten nothing but rainbow no way a bunch of 20 year olds are like dude that's sick it looks sick i i don't i don't know jealousy is not a good color on your no it's not jealousy i'm being i again we had this discussion on Monday.

Speaker 3 You can't let someone in the crew just change their entire look. He is from Texas.
Yeah. But like, listen, I've been there.

Speaker 4 I could, I can see.

Speaker 3 Standing stranding strong without.

Speaker 4 This is solidarity with all my friends that don't have energy.

Speaker 3 You're not even wearing headphones anymore.

Speaker 4 No, I'm raw dogging it.

Speaker 3 That's a Texas way. That is bad.

Speaker 4 It ain't my way to wear the pants.

Speaker 3 What are you doing?

Speaker 4 That's New York City slicker stuff. We don't need electronics involved in this.
What do you do? This is you, me, and Hank sitting down, having a chat. We don't need to bring headphones up.

Speaker 3 Jesus christ all right well is it gonna like are you actually gonna do this no i'm probably gonna give it up after

Speaker 3 okay all right then you know what i i won't say anything else if you're if you it at some point in the next like two weeks you come in i'll quiet no goodbye no see you later it's just there's no cowboy hat anymore yeah i'll ride off into the sunset is what we say in the weather and that'll be the last i talk about have you or have you not bought more cowboy hats because you still have your generic your generic first one no this is very much still me because this was a free cowboy hat so this is given to us by the good people at pbr So I'm going to wear this one.

Speaker 4 And I still have my old Texas clothes, which are a lot of Pearl Snap shirts.

Speaker 4 You know what? I got my first kidney issue after I started watching a show literally called Yellowstone.

Speaker 4 That's another issue. Maybe it's not the salad, but no,

Speaker 4 like most things, I'll just kind of forget about it.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's not doing that. That's totally fair.
Yeah. I mean, we're in a weird,

Speaker 3 it's February where it's like, hey, football's over. March Madness hasn't started.
It's a wayward time.

Speaker 4 I mean, honestly, like, not biased at all. I look pretty good in this hat.

Speaker 3 I agree. I pull it off.

Speaker 4 Thanks, Hank.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know, but it's like, it's just a weird thing to be... I'm not saying you don't look good.
I'm saying it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 It's like when you shave your mustache. But where

Speaker 3 are you?

Speaker 3 What? Braids. What are we talking about? Willie Nelson.
I'm dying my hair. You think I shouldn't dye my hair? No, no, you come in with your hair dyed.

Speaker 4 That's the reaction I get. Same as me coming in

Speaker 4 looking like Joe West.

Speaker 3 No, but like being an all-the-time cowboy hat guy is a totally different thing. Yeah.
You become a different person. Yeah, that's me.

Speaker 3 also people were saying that you kind of jack white socks dave's style oh i've been wearing this cowboy hat for years right but he's the cowboy he's the cow i'm not the cowboy i'm haas

Speaker 3 okay

Speaker 3 different yeah there it is are you high on percocets no i took half one i took half one early this morning yeah the uh pft texas that that was another you're like hey we should go stylist

Speaker 3 that was a percocet idea yeah no one responded

Speaker 3 so we're just gonna rip off queer eye for the straight guy No, I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 4 if we had a stylist come in and just dress us up, we wouldn't get it one and out.

Speaker 3 That would happen for one video, and then we'd go back to the video. Go back to wearing sweatpants and

Speaker 3 acting like we're 15 years old. Exactly.

Speaker 4 That was the entire purpose. And to be fair, the text was Percocet idea because I was just getting out of the hospital.

Speaker 4 So, not to brag, I'm not taking this bracelet off for weeks.

Speaker 3 Oh, so this is like the Cabo look. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Me and Billy, Billy, do you still have party bracelets on?

Speaker 3 Oh, he doesn't even remember if he does. No, wow.

Speaker 3 We're totally sidetracking that Duke is the whole entire empire is crumbling, Hank. Coach K has nothing.
He has nothing left. It's a long thought I think.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's a COVID year.

Speaker 3 I mean, people have

Speaker 3 kidney stones

Speaker 3 coming off COVID.

Speaker 7 There's a lot of things going on in the world, and I think this is just a telltale sign.

Speaker 7 And also, people are talking about Carolina is also unranked and probably not going to make the tournament either.

Speaker 3 No one's talking about that. And asking for opponents on Twitter.
Exactly. Yeah, because they don't want any time.
beware.

Speaker 4 They say anyone, anytime, anywhere.

Speaker 3 Duke won't do that because they canceled the non-conference schedule. Remember that? When Coach K did that?

Speaker 8 No, they still got those home wins in against Coppin State.

Speaker 3 That was before they passed the point. And then they picked it up.
Well, what I said is true.

Speaker 3 They wanted non-conference. I was saying they got that.
Kink's not smart enough to realize what you're saying, Jake.

Speaker 9 So he just jumped on schedule.

Speaker 3 They did play non-conference games. I did it.

Speaker 3 They canceled the non-conference schedule.

Speaker 7 But not because of them not wanting to play non-conference games. No, because they suck.

Speaker 8 Because they already got the wins in against Bellarman and Coppin State. Right.
Flate the record right now.

Speaker 3 No, he's been saying

Speaker 8 two of those eight wins are Coppin State and Bellarman.

Speaker 3 Which proves that they were not afraid to play non-conference games. Stop agreeing with him.
Thank you, Jake. Very cool.
Something that's anti-Duke. Very cool.

Speaker 4 Hank doesn't even remember, but a couple of years ago, this was, I think, even before the Zion thing, you said that you would get a cat if Duke didn't make the entire tournament around that.

Speaker 7 Absolutely not. You did.

Speaker 3 You did. You did.

Speaker 3 It might not have been on the tournament. Are you afraid that Norman will impale the cat with his penis? Yeah, probably.
I am too, actually.

Speaker 4 It'd be like a sex doll for Norman.

Speaker 3 All right. So are you, as a Duke alum,

Speaker 3 are you saying that Jalen Johnson is a quitter?

Speaker 3 That's really the line on Twitter. Do are you the line on Twitter now as a sports fan, are you man enough to call a college basketball player a quitter?

Speaker 3 He is a quitter. However,

Speaker 3 it's as like a

Speaker 7 Dookie, a die-hard Cameron crazy

Speaker 7 runs in my blood.

Speaker 3 You're gonna get your JD and your bachelor's from there. Yep.

Speaker 7 And yeah, my film degree, everything.

Speaker 7 If they had a shot, even like a chance,

Speaker 7 they're clearly not going to make the tournament. They're terrible this year.

Speaker 7 If it was like they were even a bubble team or close to a bubble team and he quit now, it'd be like, all right, fuck this guy forever. But now it's like he's a top draft player.

Speaker 3 But he probably wouldn't quit if they weren't.

Speaker 7 If he got injured playing for a team that's not going to make the tournament, like that is really dumb.

Speaker 3 You know what he did?

Speaker 3 To put it into terms that people can understand, he opted out of the Idaho Potato Bowl. Right.
Okay. Like, I love the Idaho Potato Bowl.
But Bornette did the same thing.

Speaker 3 It's okay when you opt out of the Idaho Potato Bowl.

Speaker 4 He opted out of games that would just be meaningful for people that are on their couch betting on those games. Correct.

Speaker 4 Games that are not meaningful for anybody else, unless you're a big NIT fan, which I guess those exist. But now, Duke, they might even make the NIT.

Speaker 3 That would be great if they made a mistake. What would happen if they went on a run here? Because

Speaker 3 what's our theory?

Speaker 4 That when you lose your best player? That would be

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 Bryce theory.

Speaker 3 What was it? The Harper. Was it the Bryce Harper theory? The

Speaker 3 harperthesis. Harperthesis.
When you lose your best player, you actually do better as a team. If they made the tournament, do you think you would opt back in?

Speaker 3 I don't think you can do that.

Speaker 7 I think once you sign an agent in tournament, I mean, Coach K doesn't really.

Speaker 3 If he signs an agent, he can't.

Speaker 8 But if he's just chilling and taking classes, I'd think leading to the game.

Speaker 3 I'm sure he's definitely taking classes.

Speaker 4 I do like that the debate is like

Speaker 3 a student athlete all the way.

Speaker 4 Is this guy a quitter? Like, yes, by the definition of the word, he did quit the team, but he's, we have to rephrase it. He's an opt-outer.
Right. He opted out.

Speaker 4 I like how now, like, anytime you quit something, you can just say opted out.

Speaker 3 I just way better. I actually, I have.

Speaker 4 I'm going to opt out of wearing a cowboy hat a couple days.

Speaker 3 I have his back simply because I didn't have any chance of going to the tournament. I wouldn't want to be berated by a senile old man and Coach K for the next month and a half.

Speaker 3 No, no, that sounds miserable. Go make your millions, dude.

Speaker 4 I mean, Coach K, he is going to opt out himself soon, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Also, I there is an argument, like, oh, well, his teammates might be upset.

Speaker 3 Listen, if I were his teammate, I'd be like, dude, that's a good move because I hope that you make the NBA and you take me out to a steak date.

Speaker 7 That's exactly what I was going to say. You can't be too upset because it's like, that's your chance.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes. That's the first thing I think of.
Everyone's like, oh, he's quitting on his teammates.

Speaker 3 Like, dude, do you think his teammates are really going to be like, hey, Jalen Johnson, lose my number, bro? Right. No.

Speaker 4 I bet you Coach K has some weird rule for him.

Speaker 4 Like, when he told Coach K that he was quitting, he was probably like, well, okay, I'm going to need your Duke-issued tops, your bottoms, the pen, the notebook that we gave you.

Speaker 3 All the money that Jeff Capel gave you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm going to need every brown bag that you've touched in the last six months back in my slander for Jeff Capel.

Speaker 3 None. Why?

Speaker 3 Recurring gust of bench mob.

Speaker 3 This podcast.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jeff Capel is. Who's pretty much a monster?

Speaker 3 You got to defend Will Wade now? He's part of the family, yeah.

Speaker 8 He was a very nice guy.

Speaker 3 I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. I love this show.

Speaker 3 This is February, pardon my team.

Speaker 4 I think it's very interesting to see how Coach K spins this in the book that he's going to write in three years about how this was actually his best season coaching. Uh-huh.
You know what?

Speaker 4 I don't think that they've had, have they had any COVID on their team?

Speaker 3 No, because they canceled the non-conference.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Coach K.

Speaker 4 Coach K is going to say, like, this is actually his most successful season coaching in his history. He's going to write a book about it and the chapter about Jalen Johnson opting out with coach.

Speaker 4 Coach K is probably going to say, like, I advised him to because he's going to go to the NBA, make a lot of money. That's what we want first and foremost.

Speaker 4 First is their health, and then secondly, we want them to get paid a lot of money. So I told Jalen Johnson to quit.

Speaker 3 I mean, that would be the Cow line.

Speaker 3 Cow would be all in on this.

Speaker 3 All right. What else? Oh, J.J.
Watt might be a Brown, which

Speaker 3 that would be the greatest move that he's ever pulled. Oh, I would love it.

Speaker 4 If he goes to the Browns or the Bills, like, everybody who's not a fan of their direct rivals is going to be so happy about that.

Speaker 3 I think he's got to do the Browns, though, because to play against his brothers.

Speaker 4 So that's the only thing is, like, JJ playing twice against his brothers, that seems like a bridge too far.

Speaker 4 He loves the spotlight that goes on him when he plays against them once. Like, once a year would be perfect.

Speaker 4 But twice a year, it feels like that's a little. He doesn't want to put his parents through that big catch.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What are you going to say? Did you see his Instagram caption, though? What?

Speaker 10 All gas, no breaks.

Speaker 4 That's Robert Salay's line.

Speaker 3 Salah. Sala?

Speaker 4 Northwestern. Northwestern, yeah.

Speaker 3 Spiros.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Their strength coach.
There'd be a little Jets action going on.

Speaker 3 Oh, you think he's just dropping a little.

Speaker 4 JJ going to the Jets would be an all-time bonehead move.

Speaker 3 Billy, how's the quarterback

Speaker 3 comps going? Good. Oh, okay.
So you're really hard at work.

Speaker 4 I still think he's going to go to the Titans, the Packers.

Speaker 7 What's the timeline like on that thing?

Speaker 7 Like, when can we expect?

Speaker 3 The comps? A rough.

Speaker 3 I'm working on Kyle Trask right now. Okay.
Yeah. So give us one thing about Kyle Trask.
He looks like.

Speaker 3 Oh, he played at University of Florida.

Speaker 4 He's got a sweet goatee.

Speaker 10 I'm thinking Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 8 That's a mid-mid-level. Okay.

Speaker 10 Okay. Tom Brady upside.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Tom Brady upside, Kirk Cousins, mid-level. And then Paxton Lynch has his downside for every quarterback.

Speaker 3 Demarcus Russell. You might have a little of that in.

Speaker 4 I do think so. I was actually thinking about the quarterback situation because I know that your bears have been linked numerous times.
First by part of my take to Carson Wentz.

Speaker 4 But I feel like Marcus Mariota is the guy that nobody's talking about out there.

Speaker 9 I think he's still under contract.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I mean he's going to be... Is he under contract?

Speaker 3 I'm pretty sure. Because that's why people aren't talking about it.

Speaker 4 I think he's available. Like he's been...
known to be available. Or they just re-signed Peterman, right?

Speaker 3 I think they want to get rid of Derek Carr.

Speaker 4 I've heard that Mariota is being mentioned in trade talks.

Speaker 4 I don't know if it's free agency. I need to look at his contract.

Speaker 3 Almost. Yeah, no, he signed a two-year deal with the Raiders.
So he's.

Speaker 4 Here's what I would do, though.

Speaker 4 Here's what I would do, though, if I were the Pittsburgh Steelers. I would trade for Marcus Mariota to sit behind Ben for one year.

Speaker 3 I don't think Ben.

Speaker 4 What is he's coming? He already says he's coming back.

Speaker 3 What are you doing, Billy?

Speaker 8 What? You're breathing like Jose.

Speaker 3 I have a buckler. While you're just scrolling through, I have a buckled septum.

Speaker 4 I can't breathe.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Big Ben has said he's coming back?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he said, like, right after the season was over.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, but I think there will definitely be a conversation. I mean, that's Big Ben.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there'll be a conversation, but I mean, wouldn't it make sense?

Speaker 3 They had to pay him like $40 million.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but wouldn't it make all the sense in the world to get Marcus Mariota on the Steelers?

Speaker 3 But wouldn't you want to just do it in a year when he's a free agent and not have to pay $10 million plus $42 million? Probably.

Speaker 4 In an ideal world, yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm just thinking that it would make sense for a a lot of reasons for him to go to pittsburgh yeah i just think that the the the steelers are already in like cap hell because of big ben so adding a more salary at the quarterback position would probably not work i i mean i i all

Speaker 4 derek i feel like he's he trends on twitter every other day yeah Big Ben's also negotiating against himself, though, because in addition to saying that he's coming back next year already, he's gone to the press and been like, I'm going to not take as much in salary next year.

Speaker 4 I'm waiting for them to come and talk to me, and then I'm gonna like cut my salary in half. So Big Ben's already, he's pre-forfeiting half of his salary.

Speaker 3 And I don't even know if he can, I don't know how much more they can like push off. I don't know.
I think this is the end of the line on the Big Ben number. What if they...

Speaker 3 Again, this is what they've been building everything forward. Like, oh, this sucks.

Speaker 4 This is the Big Ben championship window?

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, in the salary cap in the NFL is always just, like, I feel like you can just make any move and then all of a sudden, oh, yeah, that money just doesn't exist anymore or push it off.

Speaker 3 But I do know that the Steelers are in a pretty bad situation.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The J.J.
Watt free agency thing, though, it seems a little one-sided right now. I want it to be more like, remember when Peyton Manning was like taking his pick?

Speaker 4 He was getting flown to different cities. I want to see these teams making

Speaker 4 new Amazon headquarters type offers to J.J. Watt.
I want to see cities putting together packages with the key to the city for J.J. Like wine them and dine them a little bit.

Speaker 4 This is the only time that JJ's going to make everything about JJ because he's way too classy and low-key and humble of a guy to do something like that.

Speaker 3 So Big Ben is,

Speaker 3 this is his last year. His cap number is $41 million.

Speaker 9 That's significant. That seems pretty high.

Speaker 3 That's significant. Yeah.
That is significant. That's a significant,

Speaker 3 yeah, they're $30 million over the cap right now.

Speaker 4 We really blew it, by the way, when we were talking about cool hat guys by not mentioning Big Ben in the Fedora.

Speaker 3 Yes, one of the coolest hats when he looked like a booger.

Speaker 4 That's actually a textbook. Like, this is not a hat guy trying to pull off a hat moment.

Speaker 4 That's in the dictionary.

Speaker 3 Yes. Everyone is like, dude, you can't do this.
All right, let's do, let's do our hot seat cool through. Anything else about Duke? Just, you know.

Speaker 3 Anything?

Speaker 3 Duke?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I have one other thing. Oh, yeah.
That was my hot seat.

Speaker 3 Duke? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, Do tell. What happened with them?

Speaker 7 My hot seat was Duke.

Speaker 4 Jalen Johnson quit the season.

Speaker 3 Oh, he did quit. He quit.
You were. Yes, he did quit.
Okay. So it's official.
He has quit on the team.

Speaker 4 Did he quit on the fans?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but they're not in stadium this year.

Speaker 3 The crazy?

Speaker 7 He's not taking away from the senior or senior night or anything.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, good.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of seniors at Duke that always come out. A tradition unlike any other.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to Hot Teeth, Cool Thrones.

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Speaker 3 Hank, hot seat cool trump.

Speaker 7 I had two hot seats, thankfully, because I'm prepared. Nice.
My other one was Larry King's ex-wife.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What happened? Which one?

Speaker 7 Wait, Moment of Silence. Seventh one.

Speaker 3 For Larry. Seventh out of nine?

Speaker 7 I think seven out of seven.

Speaker 3 Oh.

Speaker 3 I think. I think.

Speaker 4 I thought he had eight. I think he had seven because Tom Brady has as many rings as his wives do.

Speaker 7 Oh. So he.

Speaker 7 That was like.

Speaker 3 That was actually like almost three full boots.

Speaker 4 No, that's just a fact.

Speaker 3 That was but

Speaker 3 no, but that is a Rick Riley.

Speaker 4 Because we discussed it like a week.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Rick Riley would say

Speaker 3 rip Larry King. His wives have as many rings as Tom.
But he's also like,

Speaker 7 you've got to give Rick Riley like

Speaker 7 at least six months.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because Tom Ray just run his seventh ring.

Speaker 3 And Larry King just died. Right.

Speaker 7 He updated his will on a napkin,

Speaker 7 basically writing his ex-wife, his most... most recent ex-wife out of the will because she was banging their son's little league coach like all the time.

Speaker 3 Hilarious.

Speaker 7 So, Totsied her. She kind of fucked herself up.

Speaker 3 I love that. Bill Billicheck had a lot of money.
Just Larry Napkin.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's actually a great point.

Speaker 4 Presumably, his ex-wife found the cocktail napkin and she did the right thing.

Speaker 3 She was like,

Speaker 4 she wanted more to brag that she was fucking her son's third base coach than she wanted the money. So I take my hat off to her.

Speaker 3 How much money did Larry? I think Larry King, did he have a lot of money?

Speaker 7 He was on TV for a bajillion years.

Speaker 3 But he had seven wives. How old was the last kid? You keep losing money every time you get divorced.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure Larry King was the king of prenups.

Speaker 4 You learn after your third divorce, so he learned to make the writer tight.

Speaker 3 He didn't even have to write it on him.

Speaker 4 It was probably a spite move, which I respect. Larry King, by the way, if you go back and you watch his interviews, like clips from his interviews in the 80s, 90s, he was the goat.
He was a goat.

Speaker 4 He was the Joe Rogan of his day.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is, I have a couple as well.

Speaker 7 Pac-Man Jones. He's back, back doing pac-things.
Got arrested for being in a fight.

Speaker 6 And Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 7 25th anniversary was today of it getting released. Adam Sandler did a video.
Just a simple cell phone video of him doing the Happy Gilmore swing. Very enjoyable.
Brings a smile to your face.

Speaker 7 Shooting McGavin was chirping him. It's just a beautiful thing to see.
It got me scared, though.

Speaker 7 I'm just going to, you know, pray for the purity of the internet and that he's just doing it to to celebrate the 25th anniversary and not as like a future promotion for happy gilmore too because that would that would be sad happy gil most oh uh

Speaker 3 so i i think chaps pointed it out but if you went to adam sandler's twitter it's just it's just the obituaries every tweet is just r.I.P. stuff.
His Instagram as well. Mix in a couple.

Speaker 4 Like Bruce Arians? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but like he, like, Adam Sandler is the type of guy, though.

Speaker 7 He's not on Twitter. It's like, man, this is sad.
I got to share my condolences.

Speaker 7 That's the only thing that's worthwhile of him getting away with it.

Speaker 3 I know, but it's a big-time bummer. Mixing a couple, like, going to get Chipotle.
Something like that.

Speaker 4 I find it hard to believe that in 25 years you haven't done the happy Gilmore swing once.

Speaker 3 He hasn't?

Speaker 4 No, he said it was like the first time. Got it.
Like, he hasn't done it in 2015.

Speaker 3 I wonder if he plays golf often. He probably does.
He's going to pick up basketball.

Speaker 4 I think once you get that rich, you have to play golf.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you probably do. Although he might be so rich he doesn't have to play golf.

Speaker 4 He just owns the course.

Speaker 3 No, he just has guys like, hey, we don't play golf. You just have to come and play pick up basketball with me.

Speaker 3 No, I don't play golf.

Speaker 8 That's the boner dogs production.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 All right, PFT, your hot seat cool thrown?

Speaker 4 My hot seat is trading cards. Yes.
Trading cards are on the hot seat big time.

Speaker 4 I know that some people have gotten really into collecting them recently, but they're getting cucked in a major way by a new trend out there. I think it's called NBA Top Shot.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to learn more about it because it makes no sense to me,

Speaker 4 but I'm also certain that there are so many suckers that believe in it that I can make a bunch of money doing it.

Speaker 3 It's these hologram things, right?

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 they're selling video highlights.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 yeah.

Speaker 4 They're selling GIFs on the internet, and you can buy a GIF online. Somebody just bought...

Speaker 7 Spider-Man like $1,000.

Speaker 4 Someone just bought like a nine-second video of

Speaker 4 Zion Williamson blocking a shot, and they paid $100,000 for it. It's a video you can watch on Twitter right now.
It's on the internet. You can find it on YouTube.

Speaker 4 But they own that video on this website.

Speaker 4 And because they use the word blockchain when describing what they're doing, now it's worth money. I don't know.
But they've figured out a way to monetize gifts. And I think I'm in on it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 3 I mean, I own Dogecoin. You owe Dogecoin.
I heavily, heavily. Yeah, I don't think we can...

Speaker 3 Point at anyone and be like, how could you do this? Yeah, exactly. We own a fake dog Bitcoin.

Speaker 4 I made 900% investment on buying a dog that I don't own.

Speaker 9 So I'm down for this. Yeah, so I'm in it.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to buy it, but I'll support it.

Speaker 4 But it's weird to me, like getting into the culture because you see that people are like, Windhorse wrote an article about it today. That's how you know it's really hip.

Speaker 4 And people were replying to the tweet, like explaining how they're making money on it. And it's just like the biggest dorks that you could ever imagine.
But they know something that I don't know.

Speaker 4 So I feel like it's one of those things that I'd rather just kind of like be bullied into accepting as being the future

Speaker 4 than try to fight against the windmills and be like I'll never change so yeah I guess gifts are um sounds cool to me gifts are monetized yes yes uh my cool throne is fucking at work oh uh there was a MTA worker that got busted they were a train conductor and they got they were getting paid overtime on the clock and they got busted fucking in the rail yard with one of their employees okay and I I actually think that if you work a blue-collar job, especially if you're a train operator, you should be allowed to have sex on the clock.

Speaker 4 You don't want someone who's dangerously horny to be driving your train. Like, you want someone who's mellow, relaxed, has that post-nut clarity.

Speaker 4 You don't want them getting turned on when you go into a tunnel. You don't want the vibrations doing weird stuff.
You don't want them going fast to impress the babes.

Speaker 4 So, I'm all in favor of blue-collar workers being afforded a fuck break. You don't even, you don't get a cigarette break anymore unless you fuck somebody just before it.

Speaker 4 So, just let people have fuck breaks at work.

Speaker 3 It's the new trend. I'm, Yeah.
Why not? The train conductors are people, too.

Speaker 4 I feel like that's also something that exists in Asian cultures.

Speaker 4 Fucking? Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a lot of fucking.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, China has the most people. But just like

Speaker 4 getting nap breaks or getting fuck breaks at work. I feel like a lot of Asian cultures have hotels that are built into office buildings.
Nap pods. Nap pods, exactly.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like the Ohio State locker. Remember when we went through there and there were the nap bags? Yeah.
That's, I mean,

Speaker 3 everyone needs a nap every now now and then.

Speaker 4 Recharge the battery.

Speaker 3 You recharge your phone, might as well recharge your body.

Speaker 3 All right, my hot seats is, so we talked about a Carson Wentz is still out there. I think he's going to get traded.
I have a bad feeling that Ryan Pace is behind this.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you've noticed, but like Colin Coward, essentially, Colin Coward, Bart Scott, and I think Orlovsky all were like, if the Bears get Carson Wentz, they're instant Super Bowl contenders, which is not true.

Speaker 4 Well, Orlovsky just loves Garson.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, but it feels like there's something going on. Something's afoot, and I would like to stem the tide.

Speaker 3 I don't think I can, but it feels like something's afoot here because the Bears are not a Super Bowl contender with Carson Wentz. What if you get that?

Speaker 3 Especially not with giving up a first-round pick for him.

Speaker 4 What if you get that Carson Wentz, though, from 2017?

Speaker 3 I mean, the other thing is like Eagles fans, I don't understand.

Speaker 9 They still have such an affinity for him.

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 3 I've heard the the line, oh, I'm sorry, like, he'd be the best quarterback in Bears' history. Yeah, every quarterback would be.

Speaker 3 That's not a bar that we're trying, like, you could just name a name and be like, yeah, he'd be the best quarterback in Bears' history.

Speaker 4 I actually understand where Eagles fans are coming from because anytime you have a quarterback that is that good for a brief period of time, that's how you choose to remember him by.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but at this point, it's over. So you should,

Speaker 3 like, don't. I would divorce myself from those feelings.

Speaker 4 Right, but

Speaker 4 it's tough to do like I still think that Robert Griffin's gonna win a Super Bowl one day yeah even though I know that's insane like a lot of Eagles fans no I mean I have the feelings for Cutler yeah because like that that thought that memory those like two three months exist in the back of your head where you're like if he could get back to playing that way yeah then yeah he'd be legit but the problem is

Speaker 4 he hasn't been like I think most of them have have accepted the fact that he's not going to get back to that point but if you tell them like what if he like showed up this offseason he came back for training camp and it was 2017 again.

Speaker 4 They instantly get those feelings. Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Either way, I think that there's something's afoot. And then my cool throne is LeBron because he would have been the best two-sport athlete of all time making a NFL roster.
I actually believe him.

Speaker 3 That's not... I don't know why anyone would say, oh, LeBron couldn't make an NFL team.
No, he absolutely could. Without a doubt.

Speaker 4 You might go as far as to say he is the best two-sport athlete of all time.

Speaker 3 He's the best tight end of all time. Yes.

Speaker 6 That's actually respected, Biz.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Who's better than him? him?

Speaker 3 I think I'd actually go as far as say he's a better tight end than he is a basketball player.

Speaker 3 The highlights are. He paid the right sports.

Speaker 7 Sports Center tweeted out a high school highlight tape, and he wasn't even scoring touchdowns.

Speaker 3 It was just like

Speaker 4 an Ohio State Park.

Speaker 7 Breaking one pass and getting tackled five yards away.

Speaker 3 If he wanted to go play football right now, you don't think every team would give him a tryout?

Speaker 7 Yeah, he'd be Tim Tebow. He'd just be there to sell tickets.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because he was so good. I think LeBron James, we should say he's the best American soccer player.

Speaker 7 Jake is showing me a clip of LeBron shooting from way too far away, being selfish.

Speaker 3 That's all I see. Oh, it's an airball? Yeah.
Oh, terrible shot. He literally pulled up from half court.

Speaker 6 I thought he swished it.

Speaker 7 He pulled it from half court and airballed it.

Speaker 4 I do like, I think in high school, he was actually listed as 6'9, 270, playing wide receiver. So he was actually bigger.
He was taller.

Speaker 4 That actually squares up with the fact that he loses weight and size during games, remember?

Speaker 3 Yes. How much weight does he? Oh, no, no, no.
He gained weight during one game. Yeah.
Which I think was just a sweaty shirt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was wearing a tallet.

Speaker 4 I do think, though,

Speaker 4 he would have been a very, very good football player.

Speaker 4 He don't have to dribble football.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 3 Gronk is a monster. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And LeBron's bigger than Gronk.

Speaker 3 I know. That's what I'm saying.
No, he is probably too tall. Right.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 3 that might be true. All right, Billy, do you have to say that? Gronk gets hurt every day.

Speaker 3 Hot seed beef.

Speaker 10 Bill Gates doesn't want us to eat steak and wants us to eat synthetic beef.

Speaker 3 I saw that, and someone went viral being like, That's not true.

Speaker 3 No, the author was like, that's not really what he said. No, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 So the recommendation was don't, if you eat less than, if you eat three steaks a week and you decrease it, you will like greatly help the earth.

Speaker 3 And then someone was like, who the hell is eating three steaks a week? And I just did the Homer Simpson gif. Like, I am for sure.

Speaker 3 You eat, we all eat three meals with steak in it, right? Yes, yes,

Speaker 4 Andy reaches that for dinner, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, don't you, Billy, you do it. Yeah, I mean, this is just guy talking, just letting the meat talk.

Speaker 3 Bro, we like, oh, no, it's I do chicken and then I do steak, and then I go back to chicken, pork, sometimes mix in pork,

Speaker 3 but it's mostly just steak.

Speaker 4 True, I'm chicken. Come to think about it, most of the salads that I've eaten have steak in them.

Speaker 3 I,

Speaker 3 Whatever the opposite of a vegan is, that's what we are. Like, I don't remember the last meal I've had, non-breakfast, that didn't have meat involved.
Paleo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Always toppings on pizza.

Speaker 9 Pepperoni.

Speaker 4 What are you talking about? Sausage. Got it.

Speaker 3 Cheese pizza. No, cheese pizza.
Okay, Verge.

Speaker 3 What do you say, Billy? My cool throwns? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Mardi Gras.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Because

Speaker 3 it's way too cold this year. Oh.

Speaker 10 But they also canceled it already.

Speaker 3 Ah. Okay.
So you're not missing out on two birds with Austin.

Speaker 4 Nice. Yeah, but nipples in the cold hit different.

Speaker 3 Poke an eye out. Damn.
Jake, what do you have? Hot seat cool to run.

Speaker 8 Hot seat is the Baltimore Orioles. So fangrafts came out

Speaker 8 with playoff projections with percentages.

Speaker 8 And the Baltimore Orioles have a 0.0% chance to make the playoffs, and there's 162 games.

Speaker 4 0.0%.

Speaker 3 That's not even 0.0.

Speaker 4 It's incredible. Smashing a battle.

Speaker 8 I mean, that just makes no sense, but I guess.

Speaker 7 Leicaster City.

Speaker 4 It's us against the world. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Zero points.

Speaker 8 That's right. 0.0, I guess.

Speaker 8 And then Cool Throne is Bill's Mafia. We talked about the Australian Open last week.
Some storylines. Yeah, developing.
Serena's still in, and so is Jessica Pagula.

Speaker 8 She is the daughter of the Bills owners, and she's having a Cinderella run right now. She's even in the first set, so she could be done by the time this podcast is out.

Speaker 3 But yeah, that'll be some story.

Speaker 8 And if it's her versus Serena in the final, final, it'll be Dolphins owner versus Bills owner, AFC East.

Speaker 3 Serena's the Dolphins owner?

Speaker 8 She has some steak, yeah.

Speaker 3 Got it. I like that, though.

Speaker 4 I think we have to root for the Bills, right?

Speaker 3 Bills Mafia? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Australia is, if Buffalo was a country, it would be Australia.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so we're all in on Bill's Mafia tennis version. What time do they play the Australian Open?

Speaker 8 So they're 16 hours ahead of us. So they're just starting right now.
It's 2 p.m.

Speaker 8 Rafael will be on like at 4 a.m.

Speaker 3 You got new offsets.

Speaker 3 I'm going to pass on the Australian Open.

Speaker 7 You got any action for tonight?

Speaker 8 No. Any locks?

Speaker 3 I'm going to pass on the Australian Open. Wake me up when Wimbledon starts.
Alright.

Speaker 4 Strawberries and Cream, baby. Breakfast at Wimbledon.
Nothing.

Speaker 3 Rafa doesn't stop.

Speaker 3 Fourth wheel in Sydney.

Speaker 8 The king of clay, they call him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 King of Clay. Yeah.

Speaker 8 We're going to play the summer again, right? I won't get hurt.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh, I forgot you got hurt.
And then Billy made fun of you for getting hurt.

Speaker 3 Remember that, Billy?

Speaker 3 Billy is so well.

Speaker 3 Billy, are you just reading Instagram comments of a picture of you knocking out Jose? No.

Speaker 3 What the hell? No, that's all I was knocking to Joseph. Guys at home, not.

Speaker 4 Honestly, how long did you spend

Speaker 4 actually doing that? Seeing what people were saying about your knockout?

Speaker 10 I just kind of logged off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure. Okay.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interview.

Speaker 7 Why wouldn't, like, what?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 7 You didn't want to see people being like, fuck yeah?

Speaker 3 I was just chilling.

Speaker 4 Just chilling. You're a meme, though, Billy.
What does it feel like to be a meme?

Speaker 3 It's kind of crazy. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Little said. T-shirts are coming.

Speaker 3 Eventually.

Speaker 3 Three weeks after. Yeah.
Strike while the iron's hot.

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Robert Ory.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is seven-time champion.
Big Shot Bob is who you know him as. He's got a podcast that you got to go listen to right now.

Speaker 3 It is Robert Ory. His podcast is on podcast one.
It's called The Big Shot Bob Pod, which, I mean, that you almost had to have a podcast because you have that nickname. Is that, let's just start there.

Speaker 3 Is that the coolest nickname to possibly have to just be like, yeah, that's big shot Bob? He always hits the big shots.

Speaker 12 You know what's funny? For a long time, I was like, I don't like the nickname. But then I realized.

Speaker 12 If you get a nickname, that means you made it, right?

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 12 either you can go the other way, but

Speaker 12 I kind of embraced it as I got on, got on in life. And it's, it's funny because when you meet other athletes, they cover, they'd be like, what's up, big shot?

Speaker 12 I'm like, do y'all even know what my real name is?

Speaker 3 Yeah. That's pretty cool, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I read that you prefer big shot Rob to big shot Bob. Is that true?

Speaker 12 No, it was actually my mom. My mom didn't want me to be called Bob.

Speaker 12 I don't care. I think Bob sounds better.
But my mom didn't want me to be called Bob because that's what called my dad, and so she's like, You need your own identity, say big shot, Rob.

Speaker 12 I'm like, I don't really like Rob, so I just

Speaker 12 did it as a joke, and then next thing you know, everybody's like, What's up, Big Shot, Rob?

Speaker 3 I'm like, I kind of like Bob.

Speaker 4 The uh, the background that you're on right now, for those listening, it's it's the ultimate flex.

Speaker 4 You've got seven pictures of yourself, and I'm assuming that those are from seven different title teams, right?

Speaker 12 Uh, yes, the funny part is I put it on my Zoom, and I don't know how to take it down, so

Speaker 12 but it's not a bad backdrop. So, yeah,

Speaker 3 it's it's a it's a significant moment in each championship so and that represents um the seven rings yes so uh another thing that would that would be i assume is great about the podcast is when you have guests on you always have more rings than them unless you have bill russell right like that's the only one that you can't have on and and be like listen as a seven ring holder uh so do you do you flex on your podcast guests when you have them on no i don't flex man because i i the pitch is in the backdrop.

Speaker 12 So that kind of flexed for me, like you said. But it's weird that, you know, if you have Bill Russell,

Speaker 12 it will be an honor to have him on my podcast because think about it. The dude won 11 championships, man.
You know how hard that is? I think he won 11 in 13 years, whatever it was. It's hard.

Speaker 12 You know, I only won seven in 16. So, you know, it doesn't compare to his legacy.

Speaker 4 Do you ever put all the rings on at once?

Speaker 12 I did it once. I had some friends.

Speaker 12 I I'm really good friends with Antonio McDice.

Speaker 12 And after we beat them in the playoffs in 2005, when he was with the Pistons, he kind of came over for my birthday and I kind of had him on just messing with him. But I rarely put him on.

Speaker 12 I haven't seen him in about three or four years because they're in a safe deposit box.

Speaker 3 So talking about today's NBA, and we're going to talk about your career as well because I have a bunch of questions for that as well. But

Speaker 3 the idea of peaking too early as a team. So right now, Utah Jazz are like on fire, absolutely on fire.
You were part of seven championship teams.

Speaker 3 You know what it takes to have a championship pedigree in that mix.

Speaker 3 Is there, from our side, because we're dumb, you know, sports fans that usually have bad takes, but we will say, oh yeah, they're peaking too early.

Speaker 3 Is that a real thing? Like, can you feel it when you're on a team? Like, hey, we have enough to do it when it counts. Don't worry about February and March here.

Speaker 12 You know, peaking too early is, I don't know where it came from. Let's say if this was the Los Angeles Lakers on this run, would they say they're peaking too early?

Speaker 12 You know, what they say with the Bulls back in the day or go to State Warriors, we don't know, are they peaking too early? No, it's just a team playing good basketball. That's what it's about.

Speaker 12 Because now they're putting a situation every night where it's do or die. And what I mean by that is teams now.
want to beat you because you have the best record in basketball.

Speaker 12 It's not when you're like four or five in the road and it's all we got to go to Utah. We're just going to phone it in tonight.

Speaker 12 No, they want to beat Utah. They want to end if they have a streak.
They want to show them that they're not that good because every NBA guy has pride.

Speaker 12 Every NBA guy wants to have that one notch in their belt, so to say, when they go out and beat a team that's the best in the West. And think about it.

Speaker 12 They're the best in the West when you got the Clippers, you got the Lakers, and you got Denver, and you got all these good teams. but they're on top of the world right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you played for some for some great coaches, honestly.

Speaker 4 I mean, like, when you think about coaches that are able to keep their teams locked in over the course of season phil jackson and pop come to mind as like one and one a i assume that they had like different methods of making sure that their team was going to be locked in because the nba season can get really long it's shorter this year but it can be a long grind what was the difference between those two guys in terms of how they kept the locker room loose how they kept people focused in over the course of that long season

Speaker 12 the thing about coaches when you have a good team you can just sit back and let the team take care of themselves. And you have great leaders.

Speaker 12 You think about when we were in L.A., Phil had great leaders at B. Shaw, myself, and Rick, who kind of ran that team to keep Shaq and Kobe in line.

Speaker 12 So you have guys like that on your team that are strong-minded, strong will.

Speaker 12 People always think because you make the most money, you score all the points that you're the leader of a team. It's not always the case like that.

Speaker 12 It's the guys that, the guys that are doing all the scoring points, respect, because we've been in the league a while. I had one championship, Bisha had been there for the league.

Speaker 12 He played for a lot of great teams, a lot of great coaches. So we earned the respect of the players.
So when you have guys like that, the coaches usually go to those guys, hey, get them in line.

Speaker 12 It's not the big dogs, because the big dogs are usually too busy doing commercials, doing this kind of stuff.

Speaker 12 But for us back then, playing on the Lakers, playing on the Spurs, you had coaches that treated everybody the same.

Speaker 12 And that's another key because, you know, you can yell at Kobe, then you go on the end and yell at Devin Brown,

Speaker 12 and then you go in Pop, you can yell at Tim, then go on the intervention,

Speaker 12 yell at me. And it wasn't, it didn't really matter because we know what was at stake.

Speaker 12 And when you have coaches that can respect the players and put the onus on the players to take over the team, they can pretty much sit back and say, you know, drive me to the championship.

Speaker 3 So PFT mentions Pop and Phil Jackson, but you're on the record saying Rudy T was your best coach. Why was he

Speaker 3 better than those two guys in your mind?

Speaker 12 i say it was my favorite coach

Speaker 12 on a selfish reason he ran plays for me the other two didn't so that's fair yeah but no because it boils down to i love it for me personally and i can only say when you ask someone your favorite is my favorite you know i might like hamburgers you might like hot dogs so for me my favorite was rooted because i love it when a coach comes to you and asks you what's the feel of the game what you see out there and then when you get in the the huddle, he looks at the guy and says, okay, what are we going to run?

Speaker 12 That's just a personal thing for me because I know with Phil, it's like, oh, we're going to run this, this, and this. With Pop, we're going to run this and this.

Speaker 12 And when a coach gets a feel from the team, like, you know, what do you want to run? You know, when I was with the Rockets, nine times out of 10, it was like, hey, run 15 for Dream.

Speaker 12 And everybody goes spot up and get out of the way. So, and you have to, for me, As a player, even when I was coaching my son's AAU team, we're getting a huddle.

Speaker 12 And I said, yo, guys, what y'all want to run? And I remember the first time I did that, they looked at me like, you the coach? I said, no. I said, you guys got to feel.
What are you comfortable with?

Speaker 12 What do you want to run? And it was like, well, let's do this. And

Speaker 12 after that, they will come to me like, hey, yo, coach,

Speaker 12 I can hear them talking. They can't stop this play.
Coach, I hear them talking

Speaker 12 they're having trouble with this. And as a player, you relay that message to the coach.
And it's up to the coach to take the information. and put it out.

Speaker 12 I'm not saying that Phil and Pop didn't do that, but Rudy did it more often than those two.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're the guy that you would alternate winning titles with Steve Kerr. I feel like he does a pretty good job of that with having Draymond as like his dog on the team.

Speaker 4 You know, like he's got the Splash Brothers, he had KD, but when it came time to like really crack some skulls, he'd like, you know, tell Draymond to go mix something up, and that would be the guy that kept everybody else in check.

Speaker 4 What did that look like for you if Phil was like, hey, hey, Robert, we need to make sure that Shaq is in line this week.

Speaker 4 Would he tell you to like just, I don't know, say like a snide, like smart-ass comment to him in the huddle, or would he tell you to like throw an elbow into Shaq, see what he does?

Speaker 12 No, he'll be like, we need to get in line. Shaq, you need to make your free throws.
He will say things. Alex Phill was the type of person.
He didn't give a shit about anything.

Speaker 12 He just said what he wanted to say. You know, think about it.
He called Sacramento Cowbell Town right before we played him in the playoffs.

Speaker 12 And everybody in the arena had cowbells and we couldn't even hear him coach. So that was the best, you know, best game we ever had because we just ran what we wanted to run.

Speaker 12 So, but you know, he would come out and say stuff like you know we're not rebounding and look at shaq like okay you know we're not doing this and then look at kobe you know and it was things that he would say and then myself rick or bishaw derek would pull him to the side like dude we need to work on this i said i know you're trying to do this but this is our goal you know we would have you know you know this day and age people always have team meetings we wouldn't have a team meeting we'd just say it in the locker room after practice and like there's no need for a team meeting I'm like, we're in here anyway.

Speaker 12 So let's just, you know, talk about it. We're on the bus.
Let's talk about it. We had breakfast.
Let's talk about it. Communication was the key to every team I was on.

Speaker 12 We talked about what we need to do. We talked about our faults.
And we weren't afraid to tell each person on the team if they're slacking in a certain area and they need to get better.

Speaker 12 Or, you know, even if it comes down to a person, you know, not showing up on time. You know, it's about respecting the process and respecting the team.

Speaker 4 I like what you said right there, because the second you have to call something a players-only meeting, you've already lost.

Speaker 4 It's like if you're in a marriage, you don't say, oh, we should go to counseling this week. That should be like your ongoing conversation.
Should be like just having good communication.

Speaker 4 So that's interesting to know.

Speaker 4 Like, yeah, if you're, if you have really good team chemistry, your season is one big meeting with your guys and everything, everything should be on the table like all the time.

Speaker 12 Our team meeting is, hey, let's go to dinner. And if we got a couple of days between the next game, have a couple of drinks and talk about it.
You know, it's just what it was.

Speaker 12 I always want to hear these guys. Oh, we had a team meeting.

Speaker 12 In my mind, team meetings are for losers because right now you floundering in the wind you get ready to point some fingers and people's feelings get hurt in team meetings and you just talk about it and you're doing it on a constant basis you get used to it so feelings don't get hurt you know i'm not gonna say they don't always get hurt sometimes you know people get feelings but they know it's for the benefit of the team it's not about you it's about we and that's what a lot of times when you have guys who don't really care about the big dogs, you know, I laugh a lot of times.

Speaker 12 These guys will look at the big dogs when they make a mistake. They're scared of they won't say anything because they're afraid of being traded or something.

Speaker 12 I'm like, dude, you think I really care about being traded? As long as my paycheck still comes on the first of the 15th, you can trade me. You know, you just be losing an exclusive asset.

Speaker 12 So, and I think a lot of guys just have to think like that and just voice their opinion, no matter if you're the top dog or you're the last dog, as long as that opinion is effective.

Speaker 3 So, speaking of that, and speaking of Draymond, I assume you saw his comments last night.

Speaker 3 You've been in a couple interesting situations. You almost got traded to Detroit right before the Rockets won their two titles and then it went back because of failed physical.

Speaker 3 And you also got traded to Phoenix when Charles Barkley went to Houston and you were in a situation that you didn't like.

Speaker 3 I actually was listening to a podcast

Speaker 3 coming into work today, you talking about how Danny Ainge basically admitted that he hated the Rockets and like you guys got off on a bad, bad foot right away when he was in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 But what did you make of Draymond's comments about like player empowerment and having a say in being traded and you know the imbalance that you see sometimes when it comes to owner versus player well you know the sports

Speaker 12 is always evolving and and getting better and better um draymond green comments were right on point because it's it's so funny how

Speaker 12 teams get mad at players when they ask for a trade, but when a team says, okay, we're going to bench you because we're trying to trade you.

Speaker 12 It didn't, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 12 And in this day and age, if you're not happy with the situation, you know, as a team come together, I know players sometimes should keep it in-house.

Speaker 12 And I feel like they should.

Speaker 12 But when a team comes out like that, that's wrong. You want a player to keep in-house.
You should keep it in-house. And at the end of the day, it's a business.

Speaker 12 And we always talk about tampering in the NBA. And if a team just says, okay,

Speaker 12 we're putting Blake Griffin on the shelf. Who wants him? To me, that's tampering.
You know,

Speaker 12 you're throwing that into the masses. Why can't you make a phone call to the GM and say, hey, I'm going to suggest this? But when a player says, oh, you know,

Speaker 12 I want to be traded, or I wouldn't mind playing with

Speaker 12 this guy. You know, I would have loved to play with Spreewell on a team, you know, get that Bama connection again.
So, but you can't say that because you have that friendship, that bond.

Speaker 12 when you both was grinding to try to get to the end of the day, it's a strong connection there.

Speaker 12 So guys just have to be careful in what they say, and it's not fair, but it's the nature of the business, and you have to deal with it.

Speaker 3 What about in a situation like James Harden, where you know, he signs a deal, they build the team around him, and then he, I think he admitted that he came in not in the best shape, wasn't really trying.

Speaker 3 Some of the last days in the Rockets, you know, he it was, it was visible.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was hilarious and visible, but that seems like, you know, I don't really know what the solution is there because he said he wanted to get traded, but he also, the Rockets have built something around him.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I don't know. That's a weird situation to me.
That feels different than a Drummond or a Blake Griffin.

Speaker 12 Yeah, every scenario is different. And in James' way, I think, you know, I love James as a player.
I think he handled it wrong because when a team, an organization does everything.

Speaker 12 You know, you ask for this, we give you that. You ask for that, we give you that.
And now you ask for a trade.

Speaker 12 You have already have a great relationship with that team. Go to them and say, hey, you know, I'm going to come in and do my best for you, but I would like to have a trade.
And these are my teams.

Speaker 12 And even, and you think about it, if I was the owner, there's no way in heck I'm trading you to where you want to go.

Speaker 3 There's no way.

Speaker 12 And for them to actually still bend over backwards guy and send him to where he wants to go shows you.

Speaker 12 what kind of art, how much love they have for him, even with the GM that did everything for him was now in Philly.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 12 I just feel like the way that city

Speaker 12 embraced him, they embraced him better than they embraced Dream

Speaker 12 and better they embraced Mario Elliott,

Speaker 12 Kenny Smith, everybody who won a championship, T-Mac, they put their love and heart and soul in this guy because he was James Harden and he did a lot for the organization, but he didn't bring a championship there.

Speaker 12 And so When you don't bring a championship there, you should respectfully go to the organization that's done everything for you and do it quietly.

Speaker 12 You know, in AD case, when he was in New Orleans, I figured, yo,

Speaker 12 you are benching me, not me benching myself. I want out.

Speaker 12 Right. Yo, every scenario is different.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, it's true. We talk about the clutch gene a lot on this podcast.
We're big believers in having the clutch gene. I think you exemplify whatever the clutch gene is.
To you, like, what's it like?

Speaker 4 Are you in the zone when you hit those last shots, like at the end of a game in a big moment? What is it like?

Speaker 12 Walk me through the brain of Robert Ory when you get you know a kick out or like a tip-out ball uh game five against the sacramento kings what's going through your head when you're hitting that shot so so the scenario is when you it starts on the bench when they call a play and it's not for me but i'm the second option so i know it's for me and i don't know if that makes sense because every team knows your plays every team cuts off your first option So with me, it's a confidence builder that I know the players coming to me.

Speaker 12 And the fact that I know my teammates believe in me, all I'm saying is, yo, it's like taking a walk in the park. Don't think about it.
Catch, shoot, hold it, release, you know, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 12 So I don't really think, man, you know, and I know it sounds weird, but every time the ball comes to me and I'm more comfortable in that situation because I know I have to take the shot.

Speaker 12 Usually you get a pass and it's like, you know, 10 seconds on the shot clock. You're always looking for that other option.
I'm looking for Shaq. I'm looking for Tim.
I'm looking for Dream.

Speaker 12 I'm looking for Kobe. I'm looking for Clyde.

Speaker 12 you're looking for all these different people but when it comes down to that last second shot you got to think about nobody but yourself and so when that shot comes i'm not thinking i'm reverting back to those days when i was a man in high school when i was the man in college i'm taking the j so i literally think about nothing because it's just playing basketball and it's just like you know getting up in the morning like i always say and walking to the bathroom.

Speaker 12 You don't think about going left, right, left. You just do it.
And that's what I do. I just do it.

Speaker 3 What about one of my favorite big shot Bob moments was actually a dunk. That left-handed dunk in the finals against the Pistons, Spurs Pistons.
That one had to... You thought about that one.

Speaker 3 I mean, that one was different. That one was...
You went left-handed and won.

Speaker 3 Who did you dunk on? Was it Tayshon?

Speaker 6 Rip Hamilton.

Speaker 3 Oh, it was Rip Hamilton. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That one was significant. That was not...
you know, just shooting, playing in the back. Like, you did that, and there was malice behind that.

Speaker 12 Well, I wanted to shoot the ball but bruce bourne threw the ball at my ankles what allows the defense to get out there and it's weird because you know people do so many things when they play basketball where they don't think it just comes natural and for me i i got into that moment and if you watch me in layups i practice that all the time i practice taking off and trying to get to the rim and dunking the ball i know i'm right-handed but i broke my thumb in college so i really couldn't palm the ball that well So I always dunk left-handed because I can really grip it.

Speaker 12 And so for me, at that moment, I just just get to the hole. And I just started taking off.
I thought I took off too far out, which I almost did.

Speaker 3 But for me,

Speaker 12 it was one of my favorite dunks of all time because it was on somebody. It was in the finals.
And it was during a key moment in game five where I was just lighting them up from outside. So it's good.

Speaker 12 If you look closely, is that there

Speaker 3 yeah

Speaker 12 you can see the ghosting that one yeah actually it's called ghosting and you can see me dunking on uh

Speaker 4 hell yeah what's what's ghosting explain that to us i mean we know what it is but our listeners might not know well um

Speaker 12 ghosting is where they lightly uh put a like it looks like a ghost and it looks a light painting in the back of a drawing where if you look close enough you'd be like oh is that yeah so the last three pictures all have ghost moments in it.

Speaker 3 Okay. That's sick.
I like that. What about

Speaker 12 this one has me shooting a three over Chris Rebel game four

Speaker 12 dunk, and that's me holding up seven championships for you.

Speaker 3 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 So the opposite of clutch, you were on the court for Nick Anderson. Well, oh, did you, what did you think I was going to say? Did you think I was going to say that?

Speaker 12 I thought you were going to talk about my last shot as a Lakers.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Well, you did have.
I do wonder, like, you had a couple couple of shots that you missed, the big shots. Was that that must have been like, what the hell just happened?

Speaker 12 Dude, you go back and look at the film and look at my face.

Speaker 12 When I missed that shot against San Antonio, that I put it was up 3-2. Yep.

Speaker 3 Going home.

Speaker 12 And I missed that shot. I've never been that dejected since high school.
And it was, and you should have seen me talk to myself.

Speaker 12 If they would have had a camera on it, it would have been like, dang, this dude got a big ego. Because I literally said, I don't miss this shit.

Speaker 12 I don't miss this shit. and I missed it.
You know, I was so pissed off.

Speaker 3 I don't think you made a three in that series, not to bring up bad moments. You didn't make a three in that series, correct?

Speaker 12 I didn't make a three all playoffs if you really want to bring up bad moments.

Speaker 3 I think I was 338.

Speaker 12 I just, you know, and the crazy part about that is I had an all for playoff series from three, and the Lakers thought I was washed up. So that's one of the reasons they got rid of me.

Speaker 12 They say, oh, but I'm like, do you realize that this is, I've won five championships at this moment. I played more playoff games than anybody on our team together.
And my body just was tired.

Speaker 12 I went back and looked, studied the film. My jump shots were probably like an inch too short because I didn't have the legs.
There's so many things.

Speaker 12 I remember one time, it was funny, Rick Fox fell right next to me. I was so tired, I just looked down at him and kept walking.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 12 I was literally tired because also in that season,

Speaker 12 I went up from 23 minutes a game to 30 minutes a game. I know people said seven minutes is nothing.

Speaker 12 Seven minutes is a lot of minutes in the NBA when you only used to playing 23 minutes a game to 24 minutes a game. So it was, it took me beyond what my body could do.
And I needed a break.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, wait, so the Nick Anderson, though, that,

Speaker 3 how bad did you feel? Because that's one of those moments where you didn't at all, even a little bit, like, holy shit, is this guy okay? Because that's what I'm talking about, you know?

Speaker 3 But still, like, that's, that is the opposite. I actually will, I'll count that for you.
He probably saw big shot Bob. And, you know, you weren't all the way big shot Bob yet.

Speaker 3 But still, like, that is the absolute opposite of big shot Bob missing those free throws.

Speaker 12 Yeah,

Speaker 12 you know, we always talk about the Sphincter got tight on that one. And for him, he missed four free throws.
And if you look at his career, his career was never the same after that.

Speaker 12 It was just, you know, and I love Nick. I used to love watching him in Illinois.
I love watching him play. He was one of those dynamic guards.

Speaker 12 I remember when MJ came back that that year, he locked up MJ. He did, you know, it was, he did some fantastic things.

Speaker 12 And then all of a sudden, missing them, those four free throws in a row and allowing us to win game one in their building, I think it hurt him because every guy knows that confidence is the most important thing when it comes to playing a sport or doing anything.

Speaker 12 You got to have that confidence. And if you don't have that confidence, it's, it's, you're out.
You should be, you're gone.

Speaker 4 And he was like a, was he like an 88% free throw shooter or something like that?

Speaker 3 It's, thank God Twitter didn't exist for that. That's one of those moments that he would have been roasted forever.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do you think, do you honestly think like big shot Bob standing next to big brick Nick on the foul strike, you think that he like, he felt that presence? He was like, I can't live up to this guy.

Speaker 12 You know, I think realizing the role that we were on with the Houston Rockets, being in their building, playing them that close. You know, it was a lot of pressure.
Now we're stepping up there.

Speaker 12 And he missed a two, but when he gets the rebound, he's like, oh, crap, I'm doing it again. It's a lot of thinking going in that process.
Of course, you got Clyde Drexer talking trash to him.

Speaker 12 You got Kenny Smith talking trash to him. And then Horace with the goggles on just looking at him like, dude, come on, you need to make these.

Speaker 3 Eyes look bigger. Yeah.

Speaker 12 It was a lot of pressure on him.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think actually your most clutch play that you've ever had, it wasn't a shot. It wasn't a dunk.
It was against the Suns when you hip checked.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you hip-checked Steve Nash, flipped the entire series. Like, you did a great job of hip-checking him, sent him into like the scorers table, basically.

Speaker 4 But then in the aftermath of that, that worked out so much better than you could have ever planned. That Stodemire comes off the bench.
I think Raja Bell came off the bench.

Speaker 3 Roger Bell was on the court. It was down.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 you gave Roger Bell a little elbow in the face.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it was, who else came off the bench then? I remember Stoddemeyer running out there.

Speaker 3 Eow is it? Yeah,

Speaker 4 Worst Deal.

Speaker 4 Right when you saw them come onto the court during the fight, how long did it take to sink in? Like, that's probably the best play that I've ever made.

Speaker 12 You know, it's weird. Some of the Phoenix Suns fans actually said, I planned that.
I'm like, damn, I'm a smart basketball player, but I ain't that damn smart.

Speaker 12 No, I can't predict what some guys are going to do. And for me, I didn't want them guys to get suspended because

Speaker 12 it didn't really affect the game by stepping on the court. And I know people look at me and say, no, because you want to win.

Speaker 12 You know, everybody's, well, If they wouldn't have got suspended, this would have happened.

Speaker 12 And I look back, I can say this now because I can't get fine.

Speaker 12 If you look at how Steve Nash got treated in that series and how they was loving him and giving him every freaking call, that was one of the reasons why I was so frustrated when I went over there because they gave Steve Nash every call.

Speaker 12 I'm like, are you serious right now? I'm like, it was so frustrating when you can clearly see that the calls aren't, you know, equal. I know people are going to say, stop hating.

Speaker 3 I said, no, but you know. I think what people are going to say is I think the

Speaker 3 Kings fans are going to hear that clip and be like, are you fucking serious right now? But here's the thing.

Speaker 12 Kings fans don't realize in game six, they got all the calls. They got some calls where Bibby traveled.
They got some calls where it went out of bounds and they got the ball back.

Speaker 12 So the Kings fans have no right to say anything.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 12 You know, they want to talk about the fouls because you can go back and look at the files. You know, all the files were

Speaker 12 probably one or two that was questionable. But for the most part, don't be mad because

Speaker 12 Vladi started messing up down the stretch.

Speaker 12 Chris Weber didn't want to shoot the ball down the stretch. So we can't control that.
The refs had no control over that.

Speaker 4 Tim Donaghy was the ref. Yeah,

Speaker 3 he was in the Sun series, too. He was.

Speaker 4 So actually, let's talk about that shot. I alluded to it earlier, the one against the Kings.
That one, I got so mad at you after you hit that shot because I was with some friends.

Speaker 4 We had bet, I don't know, probably like five bucks or something stupid on the game because I was in high school at the time. But I was so mad at you because you're 6'10.

Speaker 4 That's the last shot of the game.

Speaker 4 They're driving to the basket to make that shot you should be crashing the boards what were you doing standing outside the three-point line just hoping a miraculous tip out would come to you we go i'm gonna walk you through the play the players call what the

Speaker 12 no lie and i'm inbound the ball and i suppose to set a pick on kobe and kobe's supposed to come off if my defender went with him he's supposed to kick it back and so

Speaker 12 He had the alley to the he had he had the lane to get to the to the to the you know to the rack He missed it and it came off.

Speaker 12 So I'm still out there because I know Kobe has hit me so many times at the last moment. So I'm just standing out there waiting on the ball.
And

Speaker 12 it was no need. And also, you guys think about I'm supposed to be the man that gets back on that play.
So I'm thinking about that, even though I'm like, okay.

Speaker 12 And then I'm also thinking they might tip it out because if they can't get the rebound, you tip it out. It's too crowded anyway.
It's seven footers in there. So I'm out there chilling, waiting.

Speaker 12 So all these scenarios are going through my head, and if people say, Well, why are you out there? I said, Even Fish was outside the three-point line.

Speaker 12 Nobody talks about him hanging out there, but and the crazy part, it was a perfect tip-out. Yeah, it hit me exactly where I love it, and you know, I raised up and knocked it down.

Speaker 12 And I tell people all the time, we would have never been in that situation if Phil would have ran some plays for me because I was hot that game and already just made two threes from the corner, but I had no plays banned for me.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 12 it was, it was a, you know, it was one of those moments, you know,

Speaker 12 that kind of solidified me being Big Shot Bob.

Speaker 12 It was a great moment. I was doing it in the Laker uniform, man, on that form.

Speaker 4 So it's perfect that it's called What the Fuck? Because that's exactly what I said. Brad, that's probably the only words that I said for 10 seconds after you hit that shot.

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Speaker 4 And now, here's more Robert Ory.

Speaker 3 So speaking of the Lakers,

Speaker 3 the Shaq Kobe, like beef, how tense was it at times? Was it awkward for you guys in the locker room?

Speaker 3 I read part of the book, the Jeff Pearlman book, and Kobe, obviously, like maybe all-time competitor next to like Michael Jordan in terms of how serious he was and how serious he took it.

Speaker 3 Was it overblown by the media or was it real that there was tension all the time?

Speaker 12 You know,

Speaker 12 I haven't read his book, so I have no clue what he said.

Speaker 3 I'll tell you one funny story. There was one story that you were drinking a beer, and it was Kobe's rookie year, I want to say, and he came up to you and was like, why are you drinking?

Speaker 3 We have a game tomorrow. And you were like, I'll be fine.
Don't worry about it. He said that to me? Yeah, Kobe said that to you.
No, no.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 12 That is such, you know, I always laugh at people who write stories and that wasn't really there.

Speaker 12 I'm not going to call his name up. I remember a guy talking about we had this thing where, you know, we do this with Kobe.

Speaker 12 We weren't passing the ball and someone else was telling that story and they weren't even on the team. I'm like, why are you telling that story?

Speaker 12 You don't even know the background of that if it's true or not. You're going by hearsay.
Let one of us tell the story.

Speaker 12 But, you know, the thing about Kobe was a rookie at 18.

Speaker 12 They took the beer out of the locker room because he was 18.

Speaker 12 So nobody was ever in the locker room drinking a beer and kobe got his seriousness from us from b shaw myself and rick because we came to practice to play and we came hard you know and everybody he think about it his mama mentality came when when rick d fish what d fish still me

Speaker 12 the guys who would work horses after we left he learned from us and so his mama mentality wasn't doing the three peep it wasn't doing that it was after that where he got these knuckleheads with him that didn't know how to play yeah and then didn't come to practice and take a piece

Speaker 12 and see now yeah so now he had to have this mentality so back to what you were saying is like

Speaker 12 it was weird because we would be in practice

Speaker 12 they were on the same team they would compete you know the second team would kick their ass Kobe get mad, wouldn't talk to the second team for a while.

Speaker 12 But there was never, I never saw any beef with Kobe and Shaq on the court, even when it was on separate teams or in the locker room.

Speaker 12 Because when we done with practice, everybody goes to the locker room. We sit down, we ice our knees, we sit there, we shoot shit.

Speaker 12 And that's when you know when some guys come in, you'll be like, oh, I ain't messing with that guy. He said this about me.
It never happened. And I never saw it.
And I tell people all the time.

Speaker 12 If I don't like you, it's some guys I played with and I won championship with. At the end of the game, I ain't hugging your ass when we we win a championship.

Speaker 12 I avoid you because I'm not going to give you any fake love. Why is it that every time we won the championship that those two guys were the first to hug? I don't understand it, but it is what it is.

Speaker 12 And maybe I was blind to it. I can only speak for myself, but I never saw any beef.
I never saw it in a locker room. I never saw it on the practice court.
Never saw it on a bus.

Speaker 12 I never saw it on a plane. So I can't even, you know, I know y'all probably say, he just don't want to give us the juicy stuff, but I put that on everything.
I never saw it.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, it's fair.

Speaker 3 You're basically saying the media overblows stuff. No way.
They do that. We do that all the time.
We always do that.

Speaker 3 It's way worse now than it ever was. I mean, imagine if it was today.

Speaker 3 We pick apart every guy's, every move, whether it be social media or on the court and like every mood and look. I mean, it...

Speaker 3 I want to bring it up, but like you throwing a towel at Danny Ainge. Could you imagine how that would lead every show on ESPN? You know what I mean? Because that type of stuff gets picked apart.

Speaker 3 People will be like, Robert Ory, bad teammate, bad guy. Like that's...

Speaker 3 And I've heard you tell the story, but

Speaker 3 that was a bad place and time for you in Phoenix, right?

Speaker 12 You know, the thing about it is people don't understand.

Speaker 12 I never liked Danny Ainge because Mario Elliott is one of my best friends.

Speaker 12 And for you to point blank range and throw the ball and hit Mario in the face with it just because you're you're getting your ass kicked is just that's just really unsportsmanlike and and for him and when we first got that I remember like just him myself and Sam were walking down the hallway and he says yeah I did that on purpose and me and Sam looking at him like dude are you really just gonna tell us that you know you realize Mario and at that moment I never liked him you know and I didn't respect him then and then Cotton God rest his soul he was a coach and then he quit on us and then you know Danny took over I'm like, me and Danny had already had beef because

Speaker 12 I'm going to tell this story. We're in Chicago and we're trying to run the triangle like Chicago.
I think we get beat by 30 points. It's like 130 to 100 or something.

Speaker 12 And so we have practice in Chicago the next day.

Speaker 12 We're talking about, we're talking about this. He's like, oh, our offense needs to do this.
Our offense needs to do that. And I was like, yo, excuse me.
We always talking about offense.

Speaker 12 Our defense suck. We need to work.
And then Danny Aines had the audacity to say, I was the worst defender on the Phoenix Suns. We talking about Kevin Johnson.
We talking about Wesley Person.

Speaker 12 We talking about Danny Manning. And I'm not going to talk ill about Wayman Tisdale, but he was on the team.
Think about this. This was a team of non-defenders.

Speaker 12 You're talking about me who had 100 steals, 100 blocks. 100 threes, the first guy to do that.
And you tell me I'm the worst defender on the team. So I go off on him, right? I just tell him all.

Speaker 12 I i said dude are you serious right now and i pointed west in person i said you say i'm the worst defender this dude can't guard a damn snail and so

Speaker 12 and two days later he becomes the coach and then i'm start and i'm starting it at this time he benches me and on top of that it's my first time back in houston yeah and i didn't get to start you know how guys are you we we don't want to say but you want to feel that love from the from the from the fans right so he benches me in houston and after that it was downhill from there and and and and and it was just a bad moment so

Speaker 12 and as soon as he became the head coach i should have just you know you know at that time guys didn't use unless you was a top tier guy you don't go ask for a trade you kind of just deal with it i should have just went with myself went to the organization yo i can't play for this man i want out you know i don't like him he don't like me let me out of this situation but i'm glad i did what i did because it sent me to the lakers yeah yeah do you wish that you had thrown something like

Speaker 4 you wish you had thrown something heavier at him?

Speaker 12 No, because then I might have been caught up on charges. Hey, and I did it in Boston where he's loved by the masses there.
So, no.

Speaker 3 Maybe soup.

Speaker 4 Maybe you throw soup at him next time.

Speaker 3 Cedric Sebalis was on a jet ski or something and missed like a press. Like you, there, you have to admit, there are moments in your career.

Speaker 3 I'm sure you've seen it, like, looked at it and been like, all right, I won seven rings.

Speaker 3 I also had some pretty, pretty good things go my way in terms of luck, like Cedric Sebalis being on a jet ski, screwing up his contract in the Lakers, and then you get traded.

Speaker 12 He went to go party in Lake Havasu.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 That's the truth I ever found out about Lake Havasu. I'm like, thank you.
Think about it. You know, Sean Elliot, I love him as a person, failed his physical.

Speaker 12 Then this happened.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, Tim Donaghy refs your series against the Kings. And then you hit check Steve Nash.
Yeah. So, you know.

Speaker 12 I am a master planner.

Speaker 3 I plan all these man.

Speaker 3 I planned it all.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I mean, you're in the right place at the right time all the time are you just a lucky guy in general you know i you know god has blessed me with a lot of talent and and a lot of smarts and and a lot of luck and i i think about i never lost in high school i i won a lot in college well i won't say i never lost i won a lot in high school won a lot i never i never was a loser And when I got to Phoenix and we started season number 0 and 13, I didn't know how to handle that because I don't lose.

Speaker 12 You know, even when I guarantee you, we play cars or dominoes right right now i'm gonna kick your ass because i don't lose it's just i just have i just have that that rabbit's foot built in and um

Speaker 12 so

Speaker 12 it's it was it was hard in that situation and it's hard sometimes to not sit back and think that because i i also think about i said since you know god blessed me with a lot of talents and he did put some obstacles in my way you know referring to my daughter and her passing that you know as lucky as i was on the court i wasn't so lucky off the court I think things happen for a reason, and you just have to, you know, step up to the plate and grab and seize the moment.

Speaker 4 I'm also a big believer in making your own luck. If it happens, if you get lucky on the court one time, that can be explained away by luck sometimes.

Speaker 4 But if it happens repeatedly, it's a lot of little things that you've done over the course of, you know, a really long period of time that all add up to make those, you know, those small percentages turn into bigger percentages when you see them on the biggest stage.

Speaker 4 I think that's what we see with you. I did see, I I just looked at.

Speaker 3 I just love the quote, by the way, of I'm not a loser. I'm not a loser.
And being like, Yeah, you're not a loser. Yeah.
You actually, you can confidently say

Speaker 3 you're not a loser.

Speaker 4 We're going to have our stat. We're going to have our sports biz guy fact-check that you're not a loser.

Speaker 3 Because a lot of people could be like, I'm not a loser. Like, yeah, you are, dude.
You can say, I'm not a loser.

Speaker 3 I'm an NBA champion. NBA all rope continues.
Okay, not a loser. But I have

Speaker 12 some pencils that were made for me because I had a quote and I said, winners don't take no shit. Yep.

Speaker 12 And because I i was talking about you know moments in the basketball where you you know winners don't take no

Speaker 12 and so all of a sudden i get a package and there's a bunch of pencils that says winners don't take no and so my son tried to take one to school like are you crazy he was only like seven years old at the time

Speaker 12 so it's you have to you have to be in the right moment and winners don't take no yeah

Speaker 4 i think sean connery said that in the rock too nick cage i'm pretty sure that was a line of dialogue there um yeah well it's it's awesome to talk to you man uh i i think that's about it for me.

Speaker 3 So I had a couple more questions real quick. So

Speaker 3 who did you give more shit to? Ty Lou when he got stepped over or Tim Duncan when he showed up to the arena every day dressed like Tim Duncan?

Speaker 12 Hey, you know, Ty Lou, who, you know, he was just on my podcast and we talked about that and have everybody thought he got crossed over.

Speaker 12 I'm like, he says, he says, he don't care because that step over made him famous. So I laughed about that.
But you got to think about Tim Duncan.

Speaker 12 This is a dude at one time was top three money makers in the NBA.

Speaker 12 And he dressed like he was straight out of the trailer park. I'm like, come on, Tim.
I would mess with him all the time. I was a dude, baggy jeans.
I said, come on now.

Speaker 12 I said, you can spend your money on clothes. You don't have to spend it on video games and cars.
You can buy a suit. And think about this dude.
I don't even think this dude owns a suit, man.

Speaker 12 And we always talk about people who have every dime they ever made in the NBA. This dude probably has every dime because he damn sure didn't spend it on clothes.
He didn't spend it on jewelry.

Speaker 12 He didn't spend it on, he might have spent it on cars, but other than that, that dude didn't spend no money, especially on clothes.

Speaker 12 He probably have a closet, probably about big as a shoebox with three outfits in it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I feel like it's all the same shirt.

Speaker 3 It's all Cole's or Sam's clothes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the black and white striped shirt from Caldor that he got for 15% off.

Speaker 12 I guarantee that's why he stopped coaching because that one black jacket that he had

Speaker 12 probably fell apart.

Speaker 4 yes i did like his jeans though he was a legend of the flat front he ironed his big jeans too they weren't even properly baggy they were like just straight down the front yes i wear baggies zip snap and drop yeah yeah um i i did want to ask you actually that big cat brought it up about that spurs team because they were they were a fascinating team at the time um they brought you on they had tim duncan i think it was ginobly's second year Tony Parker was getting into the mix then.

Speaker 4 It was like one of the first international teams. What was that like?

Speaker 4 do you think that there was actually like a benefit to having a bunch of players that might not have spoke english as their first language only being able to communicate the important stuff with each other and not communicating like all the rest of the

Speaker 12 well trust me uh those guys spoke really good english and um i think for us it allowed pop to just have plays. You know, he just hand signals.
And the bad thing about that, he would do a hand signal.

Speaker 12 And if you're taking the ball out, your back is to him sometimes. So you miss it.
And I remember one play, we're in the heat of the moment and Manu's bringing the ball up. I'm like, what's the call?

Speaker 12 And he starts speaking Spanish. And I looked at him like, yo, what's the call? Like, dude, I don't speak Spanish.

Speaker 12 I'm like, so you have those moments where those guys revert back to their first language. But Manu,

Speaker 12 phenomenal player, excellent player. You know, Tony was one of those players who took me a while to understand

Speaker 12 his speed. You know, your speed is going to be be who you are and

Speaker 12 relish it because he tried to do things that he wasn't good at. I'm like, no, you scored more paints, no more points in the paint than anybody in the NBA for like four years.

Speaker 12 You know, even Shaq and, you know, Garnett and all these guys, Tony would get in the paint and shoot his teardrop. So I said, do what you do best.

Speaker 12 And because, you know, everybody started trying to shoot threes. I'm like, dude, that ain't you.
You got Janobi for that. You got Turkey for that.
You got me for that. Do what you do.

Speaker 12 Get to the middle of the paint, shoot your teardrop. You don't kick it out.
And those guys were just phenomenal players.

Speaker 12 And I think what made them good is because they started at such a young age playing against professionals.

Speaker 12 I think that's the thing that's probably going to help a lot of these guys in the G League. That now they're starting, they're going straight to being professionals at such a young age.

Speaker 12 But the only thing that differs in

Speaker 12 the foreign players that they go to school for that.

Speaker 12 They go to school for three, four hours, and then they go to basketball for 10 hours. And so they learn the game against men, they're perfecting the game.

Speaker 12 And that's why you see so many international players when they come into the NBA, they're ready because they've been playing against grown men since they were 12.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a good point. It's a very good point.
It's also changed a lot. I think that the international guys, like it used to be, they were all soft, or that was the tag.
And it's changed a lot.

Speaker 3 I think that a lot, like you said, a lot of guys, you know, look at Luca. Luca was playing at the highest level in Europe and then he comes over ready to go.

Speaker 12 Let's be real here. It's not, if these guys would have come in during my era,

Speaker 12 they still be soft.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Because

Speaker 12 it was a different era where guys, you know, you weren't running over to the monitor because some guy said, I got hidden in here. Oh, we got to see if this is a flagrant one or flagrant two.

Speaker 12 You know, you get hit upside the head. It's just about playing basketball.
You know, some things are done maliciously and some things aren't.

Speaker 12 And I hate every time something happens, they run over to that monitor to check it out. It's basketball.
Guys expect not to get hit now.

Speaker 12 And it's so, it's, it makes me so mad now when you see these guys they always like oh i got hit in the head look at the video i'm like dude it's basketball you're gonna get hit right and you know i cover the lakers i watched montrez montrez he doesn't he never complains he gets hit in the head twice a game and he just plays so he's the type of guy that'll be able to play in that league but these other guys every time they get hit they want to flavor i'm like really dude stop it just play basketball and enjoy the moment yeah and sometimes sometimes guys do do it to a detriment where they're looking for contact they don't finish a play it's like they're looking for the foul before, like get the and one.

Speaker 3 You can finish the, you know, play through contact and then hope you get a foul call.

Speaker 12 It's so weird because now I watch basketball. You know how these guys lunge into players that jump now? Yep.
That was all charges when we played because it wasn't your natural shooting motion. Yeah.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 12 we talk about the high scoring in the NBA. I want to see if they stop calling that call.
What would the scores be? Because now we want the game to be moving.

Speaker 12 This slows the game down because every time a guy jumps you jump into him you get the call i'm like come on al let's talk this let's take that out the game because to me i like the way the game is played now

Speaker 3 but i don't like that part where you can jump in there and a guy lunges into you and you get the call so it would never change though isn't chris paul like the head of the players union like i mean that's that's like his favorite move

Speaker 3 it would never let it happen

Speaker 12 that's the rules committee he has nothing to do with that so you know that's true like just like back in the the day when the NBA had this crazy idea to change the basketball because Peter people was like, oh, you can't use leather and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 Oh, I remember that.

Speaker 12 That is terrible basketball.

Speaker 4 All you had to do was spin it really hard.

Speaker 12 It would stick to the backboard and drop in. So I'm like, really? Come on, man.
We can't do this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, unders. I bet unders that year because everything sucked.

Speaker 3 You guys did it for like, what, like, it was, it wasn't even a couple months. It was like a

Speaker 3 yeah, 30 or 40 games. And you're like, this is crazy.
This basketball, it was so sticky. You could, you could see how sticky it was.

Speaker 12 You can knock on somebody in a minute because you can grip it as easy as possible.

Speaker 3 You can grip with your right hand.

Speaker 4 They need to have, like, Adam Silver's done a great job, I think, in most facets, moving the game forward.

Speaker 4 But they need a guy like Robert Ory on the rules committee, like an old school guy, the last of the hard, to be like,

Speaker 4 we can't let this get too out of hand. Let's keep some of the toughness in basketball.

Speaker 4 Is there a guy out there that you watch and you're like, that's a guy that, like a baby, a baby Bob that you see out there? You're like, that dude reminds me of me when I got into the league.

Speaker 12 Well, even though it's weird, because I look at Kuzma,

Speaker 12 same height, you know,

Speaker 12 he's a little bit more athletic than I was.

Speaker 12 I think I jumped higher than him, but as far as handling the rock, I was the type of person like, dude, handling the rock taking too much energy out of me. I don't want to do it.

Speaker 12 I just want to come off the screen, shoot, spot up, shoot, drive, do this, two, three dribbles, dunk on somebody. So I look at Kuz and the way he plays, and

Speaker 12 that's the only person that's out there that I really

Speaker 12 look at and think that reminds me of me because everybody else is, you know, they're just three-point shooters. They're not dunkers.
And Koo's a dunk on you.

Speaker 3 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 9 My last question.

Speaker 3 So you played, I mean, you're basically a walking history book for the NBA. You played in so many key series, so many great championship teams.

Speaker 3 You played with, I mean, off the top of my head, Kobe, Shaq, duncan and hakeem are probably four out of the top 25 guys in nba history who is the most unstoppable guy you played with

Speaker 12 play with yeah

Speaker 3 unstoppable shaq by far okay i was hoping you were gonna say hakeem just because i loved the dream shake i love watching him do that i'm gonna pick somebody on my team i'm taking dream you are okay yeah But when you say unstoppable,

Speaker 12 when Shaq got in shape, think about the year he won MVP, he he was unstoppable. And it wasn't like today where you might have, you know, four centers in the league.

Speaker 12 He had a bunch of centers that they weren't just skinny centers like they are. They were guys with some girth to them.
You know, you think about Vladi. You think about

Speaker 3 Greg Osterton.

Speaker 12 Yeah, all those guys, those guys were there with bodies to try to help. And he just...
you know, dominated.

Speaker 12 I think some of the time when he used to dunk onto Kimbe, I'm like, ooh, you know, and I was like, that 2000, 1999, 2000, Shaq was probably the most dominant player ever in the NBA because he was in shape, he had no injuries, and he was scared of Phil.

Speaker 12 And so he wanted to win a championship.

Speaker 3 It is crazy to think about, like, when you go through some of his game logs, when he had those stretches where he'd be like 40 and 20 every night in the playoffs, too.

Speaker 3 Wait, what do you mean he was scared of Phil? What was, how is he scared of Phil?

Speaker 12 You know, when you get a new coach, you try to impress him, so you come in in shape. So, I mean, he was this kid.
All of us, it was weird.

Speaker 12 That's the first time I've ever seen a team where everybody was in shape when they came into the season.

Speaker 12 You know, sometimes you'd be right down the borderline, you know, two to three to more days, you're in shape. But you look across the board, you know, Kobe had put on 15 pounds, all muscle.

Speaker 12 Shaq was in shape. I was in shape.
I had put on 10 pounds of muscle. It was just everybody was just in shape and ready for that season.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 4 Shaq was usually a big, I'm going to play my way into shape over the course of the first couple of months. What was

Speaker 4 What do you think the heaviest Shaq was when you played with him?

Speaker 12 I think it had to be my last season when he missed the beginning of the season

Speaker 12 with his toe problem. He had surgery on his toe right before the beginning of the season, and he was out like two months.
And

Speaker 12 so Shaq, I think he put on about 15 to 20 pounds. And I think for me, I look at his body from that moment on,

Speaker 3 it was never the same because I don't think he was able to get to that elite status again because of injuries and things of that nature so that toe messed him up from being you know a dominant force for six seven more years i'm looking at it right now it's so stupid to look at in that finals in that uh finals against the the pacers 43 in in 19 40 and 24 33 in in uh 13 36 and 21 like every night um i this actually just reminded me though of of one last question

Speaker 3 uh

Speaker 3 One of the funniest random things that I just remember from watching the NBA as a kid, Ruben Patterson claiming that he was the Kobe stopper.

Speaker 3 That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 I can actually visualize it. NBA on NBC.
They're coming in. Ruben Patterson's got his feet in an ice bucket, and everyone in the Portland Trailblazers locker is like, Kobe Stopper, Kobe Stopper.

Speaker 3 Were you guys like, is this guy fucking for real?

Speaker 12 You know, the crazy part about that is, Ruben, you used to play for us. You used to try to guard Kobe in practice.
You couldn't guard him in practice.

Speaker 12 And when he wasn't going hard, you think you can be able to guard him in the game? Are you serious right now? You know, Ruben had a big ego.

Speaker 12 When Ruben came in as a rookie, he thought he should have been starting. He didn't, you know, rookie's always supposed to do stuff like bring your donuts or bring you coffee or bring your paper.

Speaker 12 You know, I know people are like, what's the paper? But he's supposed to do these things.

Speaker 12 So, you know, Ruben had that ego and that attitude like, yo, I'm i'm from cincinnati i'm this bad guy i can do this so he never did what he was supposed to do with a rookie so one night in sacramento we said okay you we're gonna show you what rookies how rookies get treated we got a bunch of electric a bunch of um athletic tape taped him up put him on a um

Speaker 12 luggage cart put him on the elevator and hit all the buttons and so we just left him there

Speaker 12 i'm happy i asked about that yeah so that is the ruben stopper story like you don't want to respect us vets. Here you go.
We got something for it. And I think the funniest part, I felt bad.

Speaker 12 This little old lady, you know, she was about to get on the elevator and she saw him like this, all like tied up. And she's like, ooh, it's scared.
I was like, we sorry, man.

Speaker 3 Let's see, joke, you know, and she got all scared.

Speaker 12 So, yeah, you know, that's one night in Sacramento.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that guy, and that guy called himself the Kobe Stopper. I just,

Speaker 3 yeah, he had a lot. He had a lot of confidence to call himself the Kobe stopper.
I'd imagine that pissed Kobe off. All right.
Well, Robert, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Everyone, go listen to Robert's podcast, Big Shot Bob, Pod.

Speaker 3 Anytime, we'd love to have you back on, man. I'm sure we just scratched the surface with stories.

Speaker 12 It was a pleasure, man.

Speaker 12 I think y'all, you know, published my podcast. The good thing is I got Mark Cuban on tomorrow.
So, you know, he's always a blast. So listen to us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a friend of ours. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah, we've had him on a bunch of times.

Speaker 3 He knows how good he is.

Speaker 4 He's going to run for president.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 12 I asked him about that. So, yeah, listening.

Speaker 4 Mark loves saying that he's not gonna run for president. There's nothing that Mark loves more than being asked to run for president.
Yes.

Speaker 12 When you have that much money, you can run for whatever you want to run for.

Speaker 3 Yep. Yes.
Yes. Well, thank you so much, Robert.
Really appreciate it, man.

Speaker 12 Take care, man. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 3 Thanks, dude.

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Speaker 3 All right, let's wrap up. We got guys on chicks.

Speaker 3 Send you on your way.

Speaker 3 Middle of February. Valentine's Day was Sunday.

Speaker 4 Yes, Sunday.

Speaker 4 President's Day yesterday.

Speaker 9 President's Day was yesterday.

Speaker 3 Any other... What? Oh, yeah, two days ago.

Speaker 4 Lunar New Year. We talked about that a lot.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Now we're just naming holidays.

Speaker 7 It's my old neighbor's birthday was on President's Day.

Speaker 3 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 Shout out. Yeah.
I feel like

Speaker 3 Billy Tibbetts.

Speaker 7 No, I don't know when his birthday is. I wish he was.
Actually, I'm happy he's not my neighbor. He doesn't even know where I lived.

Speaker 7 Every time I tell my boyfriend that I love him, he just squints into the distance like George Costanza. Do you think this is the end of our relationship?

Speaker 4 It's not good.

Speaker 3 He might be deaf.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Satan to the other.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, we're going to go to the bathroom. I think that was a signified episode, too.
Yeah, right. It is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if he's never said, I love you back, then, yeah, I think it's probably a good sign that you aren't meant to be. That's so weird.
How do you not reflexively just be like, I love you back?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you just gotta lie.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I love you so much. That's why I came so fast.

Speaker 7 I want to spend more time with my boyfriend, but he always gets mad when I ask him about rules.

Speaker 7 He always gets mad when I ask him rules about sports. Should I just cheat on him?

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 4 that was do not pass go go directly to like what there's no middle ground in this like he does he gets mad when you ask him rules about sports so suck his friends dicks

Speaker 3 yeah i actually i actually don't see another way now that i'm saying it like you should okay if we're gonna be totally fair here you should at least tell him like hey Next time I ask about offsides, try not to be a condescending asshole about it.

Speaker 3 Otherwise, I'm sucking Billy's dick.

Speaker 4 I think that's totally fair. If you give him a heads up, he can't be mad about it.

Speaker 3 Correct.

Speaker 4 Like, guys operate on actions and consequences.

Speaker 3 Also,

Speaker 3 maybe send Hank your boyfriend's name and address so we can become friends with them. Okay.

Speaker 7 Sup, boys. I'm a flight attendant, and after being off most of 2020, I'm going back to work.
I have to do training this weekend in Dallas. My boyfriend says that he wants to come with so he can golf.

Speaker 7 It's been non-stop snowing here. He can fly for free because I listed him on my plan.
I'm worried because he said there's a strip club in Dallas that was his absolute favorite.

Speaker 3 Jaguars.

Speaker 6 If I bring him, should I be concerned that he's just going to be in a strip club for two days?

Speaker 3 I've actually been there too.

Speaker 4 They have the best breakfast buffet in the world.

Speaker 4 People say, like, I go to a strip club for a breakfast buffet. Like, I've been to Jaguars four or five times strictly because their waffles and eggs are that good.

Speaker 7 All right, this is the line I didn't say.

Speaker 7 I'm worried because he said there's a strip club in Dallas that it was his absolute favorite. He loves strip clubs because of the buffet that are such a deal.
Yep.

Speaker 3 I actually was at.

Speaker 7 Oh, no, never mind.

Speaker 4 Just kidding. What were you going to say? You were going to get yourself in the club.

Speaker 7 This was one in Jacksonville. Well, on Dictionary, there's a lot.
We were in a lot of places and went to a lot of strip clubs.

Speaker 3 We've been to strip clubs in Dallas.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But this kid that we were with was like trying to film him. The stripper took his phone and threw it across the room.
It was a funny scene.

Speaker 7 But that was in Jacksonville, not Dallas.

Speaker 3 And that'll laugh. Just to clarify, hey.
I know it didn't mean anything.

Speaker 7 Well, I was trying to remember where it was.

Speaker 3 It was in Dallas. I like it.
It was super relatable.

Speaker 4 To clarify, that wasn't like two years ago when we went to Jacksonville, right?

Speaker 7 No, this was 2016.

Speaker 3 I think every guy should get one.

Speaker 7 Actually, 2015.

Speaker 3 I think every guy should get one favorite strip club in the country. Just be like, this is my number one.
If I ever find myself here, I got to go.

Speaker 7 Mine's in West Virginia, the place we went after. I won my fight.

Speaker 3 Southern Charm. Yeah.
Southern X. Southern X.

Speaker 3 Mine's probably Cruise and Chubbies. Okay.
And the Wisconsin Dells.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go with two Minis and Waco, Texas.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And Gary and no.

Speaker 4 Landy. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Austin ones.
The one from Varsity Blues.

Speaker 3 Is it a

Speaker 3 franchise?

Speaker 4 It's the actual one in Varsity Blues that they land next to.

Speaker 3 Only noobs would say Spearman Rhino.

Speaker 7 Why doesn't water go up my Vijay J when I take a bath?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 It should.

Speaker 9 Buoyancy. Suction.
Because anyone.

Speaker 3 Your pussy lips are too small.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I actually don't know

Speaker 3 how

Speaker 3 you, if I would assume a woman would just drink all the bath water with her pussy. I think it's, yeah.

Speaker 4 Like it's a straw.

Speaker 3 It's science, right? Like if you...

Speaker 3 Osmosis. If you just took in like a deep breath with your pussy lips, it should suck up some water, right? If you're reverse from queef.
I think if you queef. What do you mean? Yeah, it's a queef.

Speaker 4 If you queef.

Speaker 3 Queef is a burp. That's a fart.
No, it's a burp. Let me make a vagina fart.
Let me make a vagina burp.

Speaker 4 What if you go in the water? What if you're in a bathtub and you fart? How come water doesn't go up your butthole?

Speaker 3 I think it does. Does it? I think water goes in your pee hole.
Just not a lot because it's a p-hole. Yeah.
It's like a steering.

Speaker 6 And you never know because you pee it out eventually.

Speaker 3 Right, exactly. You just, yeah, reverse it.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 What's up? It's like Uno.

Speaker 4 Every time a chick goes in the water, they fuck. Yes.
You're fucking Poseidon. Uh-huh.

Speaker 7 That's why you can't get pregnant in that hot tub.

Speaker 3 True, true.

Speaker 7 What's up, pussies? My boyfriend got me a car from Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 I got him nothing.

Speaker 7 Aggressive. What should I get him as a great late gift?

Speaker 3 Wait, a car or car?

Speaker 3 A car.

Speaker 4 Okay, this is an all-time makeup scenario that you're in right now.

Speaker 4 I thought we weren't getting each other anything big. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, like,

Speaker 3 if this is true, which I don't think it is true, but if it is true, she is allowed to call us pussies because she alpha. A car?

Speaker 4 She got a truck for Valentine's Day.

Speaker 4 Not even from her husband, from her boyfriend.

Speaker 3 She's like Roadhead. Yeah.
Honestly, like,

Speaker 4 you can get a girl anything for any occasion whatsoever, and she's like, I got you a blowjob. And the guys would be like, sweet.

Speaker 3 Feedback, scratch.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what my best case scenario was.

Speaker 7 Hey, hello, big cat slash short king. Hope all is well.
I'm in a long-distance relationship in college and would like to play a prank on my boif.

Speaker 7 I could think of no two better individuals to hear ideas for this from. Looking forward to hearing what you guys think, Smiley Face.
This is definitely a girl because you said boyfriend.

Speaker 3 She wants With a Y?

Speaker 7 B-O-Y-F. Yeah.

Speaker 4 She wants to know how to prank her long-distance boyfriend.

Speaker 3 Boif.

Speaker 4 Boif. Sorry.

Speaker 4 I mean, a great prank is always if you have an identical twin,

Speaker 4 have that person cheat on the guy and let him see and then be like, Psych, that's my twin.

Speaker 3 Tell your boyfriend that you're pregnant.

Speaker 4 That's a good prank, too.

Speaker 3 But wait for nine months since you've seen him.

Speaker 6 Uh-huh.

Speaker 7 Tell him you're pregnant, have him fly to you. Yeah.
And then be like, have the sign at the airport be like, just kidding.

Speaker 3 I just missed you so much.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Propose to him.

Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just kidding. I'm not pregnant, but will you marry me? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 And then that's a prank, too. And then give him a blowjob.
And he'll be like, okay, that was a good prank.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Then he'll probably get you a car.

Speaker 4 He'd actually be like, yeah, that's the best prank that anyone's ever gotten me with ever.

Speaker 7 All right, last one. I've been dating my boyfriend for about a year now, and I've been starting to notice something strange.

Speaker 7 Every time we have sex and he's about to come, his voice gets super high-pitched and he starts talking super fast. The best thing I can compare it to is Jar Jar Binks.

Speaker 7 Do I say something or just let it go?

Speaker 3 Billy, give us a reenactment so we can get in the mindset here.

Speaker 3 Come on. Give us a reenactment.
High voice, really fast. Jar Jar Binks.
I've never saw it. Oh, I'm about to come.
Oh, Misa about to ejaculate. Oh, baby, I'm about to come.
Misa so honey.

Speaker 3 I'm honestly, I don't even know.

Speaker 4 I don't care about this question.

Speaker 3 I'm just still thinking about the pussy drinking bathwater.

Speaker 4 It's international waters. Whatever happens on either side, five seconds either way of an orgasm does not count towards a permanent record.

Speaker 3 You should just know, but honestly, just

Speaker 3 accidentally

Speaker 3 do a voice record on your phone and then play it back. And he'll be like, wait, that's what I said.
Because everyone hates the sound of their own voice, period.

Speaker 3 Everyone really hates the sound of their cum voice. So get him that way.

Speaker 4 What if you just played the copycat game in bed? So you just repeated back to him everything that he said. That would probably annoy him enough where he wouldn't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 Billy, do you have a...

Speaker 3 I'm going to Google it.

Speaker 10 He may be a candidate for an exorcism.

Speaker 3 Vagina drink bath water.

Speaker 3 Vagina drink bathwater.

Speaker 3 Here we go, boys.

Speaker 3 Oh, I don't want this. No.
13 daily ways you're damaging your vagina. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Are yeast infections contagious? What happens if you suck in water through your vagina? Okay, this one I'm going to ask. I'm going to hit this one.

Speaker 4 This sounds like a Gwyneth Paltrow website.

Speaker 3 That is not really feasibly, anatomically.

Speaker 3 What's this guy? No. So it's not really a hole.

Speaker 3 Yeah, what the hell?

Speaker 4 If it was a hole, then water would be able to fill it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, what?

Speaker 3 This is.

Speaker 3 It will probably just leak out like period blood.

Speaker 3 I'm on average.

Speaker 4 That was written by a dude.

Speaker 3 Although I can't imagine doing it regularly is healthy, and I have no idea how you would do that. Okay.

Speaker 4 Like, what if you water pie yourself? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 All right. What are the numbers? 8.

Speaker 7 15.

Speaker 3 99.

Speaker 3 60 still.

Speaker 3 83.

Speaker 9 Zebras run towards grass fires because they can't outrun the fire.

Speaker 3 8.

Speaker 3 Bring back 69, you fucking asshole, Billy.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 4 Wait, Billy, did you say that zebras run towards the sound of emergency? No, no.

Speaker 10 Zebras run towards grass fires because they know they can run through them and get to the other side that's burnt out because they can't outrun the fire. Oh.

Speaker 3 Very smooth.

Speaker 3 Why wouldn't they be able to

Speaker 3 the fire's coming? Why wouldn't they be able to outrun the fire?

Speaker 4 Because it's fast. Fire's faster than a horse?

Speaker 10 Dude. What? Look it up.
There's actually no chance.

Speaker 4 It is faster. Man versus beast.
Let's see.

Speaker 3 A fire is faster than a horse?

Speaker 3 Grass fire. Zebra horse? Let's see.
Is

Speaker 3 fire faster than a horse? A zebra's a horse?

Speaker 3 Isn't there like a Disney movie about it? A monkey zebra. Winning like the

Speaker 3 video zebra running, jumping into the fire and over the air. So you saw it once doesn't mean they all do it.
And maybe they were just pyros.

Speaker 7 Just like the Marines commercial?

Speaker 3 Maybe they just fucking love fire.

Speaker 3 When other animals run away from the fire.

Speaker 10 Yo, is that the.

Speaker 3 What are you googling over there? It is pretty badass. I have headphones.

Speaker 3 I dispute your fact,

Speaker 3 and you don't have anything to back it up.

Speaker 3 Besides, you saw a video. He's not talking in the mic, and Hank's going to kill.

Speaker 4 The zebra can run as fast as 40 miles per hour.

Speaker 3 And how fast can fire?

Speaker 3 burns the whole savannah?

Speaker 10 So they're like, oh, jump to the burnt side that isn't on fire, so we don't have to just run away from this fire the whole time.

Speaker 4 Isn't it still hot where the fire just burned though?

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, but if you jump through, it's like putting your hand through a

Speaker 3 but on the other side where you land training exercise, probably the savanna is pretty big in order to become

Speaker 4 anywhere in any direction except the fire. So zebras are stupid.

Speaker 3 Zebras are morons

Speaker 3 slash pyros.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

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