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On today's part of my take, we have seven-time NBA champion, Big Shot Bob.

Robert Ori.

Awesome interview with Robert Ori.

The guy's been through like a million different awesome NBA stories and series and teammates and everything.

Coaches.

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Today is Wednesday, February 17th, and everyone is quitting on Coach K. It's the beginning of the end of the season.
I give Coach K... I thought you were saying everyone's quitting on hard body.
Mission hard body. Oh, was that you who tweeted that picture? Yeah.
Well, first of all, Hank, we tried mixing in salads. We tried getting healthy, and nothing bad, nothing good has happened since we ate salads.
We started eating salads two weeks ago. In that time frame, Big Cat's passed a kidney stone.
I've passed a kidney stone. I've got like seven more on deck.
Big Cat got coronavirus. You got bronchitis.
Jake got potty mouth. Liam is probably going to get hit by a car again.
Billy's back. Nothing good's happened.
Yeah. So fuck eating healthy.
What are you going to say, Liam? I locked myself out of my apartment yesterday. That was probably worse than COVID.
On your way to get a salad, right? Yeah. So fuck eating healthy.
What are you going to say, Liam? I locked myself out of my apartment yesterday.

That was probably worse than COVID.

And on your way to get a salad, right?

I can guarantee you all the cars in New Jersey were like, fresh meat, baby.

Fresh meat on the roadway.

Kid doesn't have an apartment.

Gonna mow him down.

I'm still here.

And with potty mouth.

With potty mouth.

For charity.

You have potty mouth.

For charity.

That's a fact. Billy, do you have anything to say for this? You are our doctor.
I got a sunburn. Okay.
Great, Billy. Billy's problem is he vacationed too hard.
That's coward. You pulled a coward.
Yeah. What? You did too much sick stuff.
You were outside too much. You were too close to the sun.
He was strained because he was dropping in off his helicopter. He was doing some copters.
What do you call it? Chopper skiing? What is that? Hella skiing. He was hella skiing.
Moving on. Moving on.
Back to Duke. Everyone's quitting on Duke.
Hank. I'm just curious.
How do you get more than one kidney stone in one time? Oh, come on, Hank. Let's not deflect on this situation here.
No, they actually do come in threes. Really? Yeah.
I've got one. He got two.
I have an indetermined amount of kidney stones. I actually have an appointment.
I'm running out of names for them. I already got Stoney Romo, Stoney Siragusa, Kidney Pond Stone, Kid Rock.
I've got a lot lined up, but not enough to deal with all the shit that's going through my system right now. Although many people have told me, and Big Cat, you can attest to this, that passing a kidney stone through your kidney into your bladder is actually more painful than childbirth.
Yeah, that's true. I know all you award-winning listening females out there that are giving birth, I feel your pain.
It sucks. But you know what? I didn't miss a show.
I don't think the cowboy hat works. Oh, no, I disagree.
You liar. I've gotten nothing but rape reviews from the cowboy hat.
Oh, no way. A bunch of 20-year-olds are like, dude, that's sick.
It looks sick. I don't know if it works.
Jealousy's not a good color on your big hat. No, it's not jealousy.
I'm being, again, we had this discussion on Monday. You can't let someone in the crew just change their entire look.
He is from Texas.

Yeah, but listen, I've been there.

I can walk the walk, talk the talk.

This is solidarity with all

my friends that don't have energy. You're not even wearing

headphones anymore. No, I'm raw dogging it.

That's the Texas way.

It ain't my way to wear the cans.

What are you doing? That's New York City slicker stuff.

I don't need electronics involved in this.

This is you, me, and Hank sitting down having a chat. We don't need to bring headphones into it.
Jesus Christ. All right.
Well, are you actually going to do this? No, I'm probably going to give it up after a couple of years. Okay.
All right. Then you know what? I won't say anything else.
If you, at some point in the next two weeks, you come in. I'll quietly give up.
No goodbye. No see you later.
It's just there's no cowboy hat anymore. Yeah.
A ride off into the sunset is what we say in the way then that'll be the last i talk have you or have you not bought more cowboy hats because you still have your generic your generic first one no this is very much still me because this was a free cowboy hat so this is given to us by the good people at pbr so i'm gonna wear this one and i still have my old texas clothes which are a lot of pearl snap shirts you know what i got my first uh kidney issue after i started watching a show literally called yellow stone that's another issue yep maybe it's not the salad but no i'll like most things i'll just kind of forget about it okay that's totally fair yeah i mean we're in a weird uh it's february where it's like hey football's over. March Madness hasn't started.
It's a wayward time. I mean, honestly, like, not biased at all.
I look pretty good in this hat. I agree.
I pull it off. Thanks, Hank.
Yeah, I know. But it's like, it's just a weird thing to be.
I'm not saying you don't look good. I'm saying it's weird.
It's like when you shave your mustache. Or dye your hair.
What? Braids. What are we talking about? Willie Nelson.
Dye my hair.

You think I shouldn't dye my hair? No, when you're

talking about... No, when you come in with your hair dyed, that's

the reaction I get. Same as me coming in...
You've never

had that reaction. Looking like Joe West.
No, but like

being an all-the-time cowboy hat guy is a

totally different thing. Yeah.
You become

a different person. Yeah, that's me.
Also,

people were saying that you kind of jack

White Sox Dave style. Oh, I've been wearing this

cowboy hat for years. Right, but he's the cowboy.
He's the cowboy. I'm not the cowboy.
I'm Haas. Okay.
Different. Yeah, there it is.
Are you high on Percocets? No, I took half one. I took half one early this morning.
Yeah. The PFT Texas.
That was another thing. You were like, hey, we should get a stylist.
That was a Percocet idea. Yeah, no one responded.
Everyone was like, what? So we're just going to rip off Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? No, I'm just saying, like, if we had a stylist come in and just dress us up, we would get us thinned out. That would happen for one video, and then we'd go back to normal.
And then we'd go back to wearing sweatpants and acting like we're 15 years old. Exactly.
That was the entire premise. And to be fair, the text was Percocet idea because I was just getting out of the hospital.
Yeah. Not to brag.
I'm not taking this bracelet off for weeks. Oh, so this is like the Cabo look.
Yeah, exactly. Billy, do you still have party bracelets on? Oh, he doesn't even remember if he does.
No, wow. We're totally sidetracking that Duke is the whole entire empire is crumbling, Hank.
Coach K has nothing. He has nothing left.
I never thought I'd see this. It's a COVID year.
I mean, people have kidney stones. As a Duke alum.
You're coming off COVID. There's a lot of things going on in the world, and I think this is just a telltale sign.
And also people talking about Carolina is also unranked and probably not going to make the tournament either. No one's talking about that.
And asking for opponents on Twitter. Exactly.
Yeah, because they want to play games. They say anyone, anytime, anywhere.
Duke won't do that because they canceled the non-conference schedule. Remember that? When Coach K did that? No, they still got those home wins in against Copeland State and Bellarmine.
That was before they came. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what I said is true. They proved that they wanted non-conference.
I was just saying they got those. Hank's not smart enough to realize what you're saying, Jake.
So he just jumped on saying that. They did play non-conference games.
They canceled the non-conference schedule. But not because of them not wanting to play non-conference games.
No, because they sucked. They already got the wins against Bellarmine and Coppin State.
Right. Played the record right now.
No, he's saying it's worse. Two of those eight wins are Coppin State and Bellarmine.
Stop saying right. Which proves that they were not afraid to play non-conference games.
Stop agreeing with him. Thank you, Jake.
Very cool. He's saying something that's anti-Duke.
Very cool. Hank doesn't even remember, but a couple years ago, this was I think even before the Zion thing, you said that you would get a cat if Duke didn't make the NCAA tournament.
Absolutely not. You did.
You did. You did.
It might not have been on the podcast. Are you afraid that Norman will impale the cat with his penis? Yeah, probably.
I am too, actually. It would be like a sex doll for Norman.
All right, so are you, as a Duke alum, are you saying that Jalen Johnson is a quitter? That's really the line on Twitter. The line on Twitter now as a sports fan, are you man enough to call a college basketball player a quitter? He is a quitter.
However, it's as a dookie, a diehard Cameron crazy, runs in my blood. You got your JD and your bachelor's from there.
Yep. Yeah, my film degree, everything.

If they had a shot, even like a chance,

they're clearly not going to make the tournament.

They're terrible this year.

If it was like they were even a bubble team

or close to a bubble team and he quit now,

it'd be like, all right, fuck this guy forever.

But now it's like he's a top draft pick.

But he probably wouldn't quit if they were good.

If he got injured playing for a team that's not going to make the tournament, that is really dumb. Do you know what he did? To put it into terms that people can understand, he opted out of the Idaho Potato Bowl.
Right. Okay? Like, I love the Idaho Potato Bowl.
Leonard Fournette did the same thing. It's okay if you opt out of the Idaho Potato Bowl.
He opted out of games that would just be meaningful for people that are on their couch betting on those games. Correct.
Games that are not meaningful for anybody else, unless you're a big NIT fan, which I guess those exist. But now Duke, they might not even make the NIT.
That would be great if they made it. That's the scuttlebutt.
What would happen if they went on a run here? What's our theory? That when you lose your best player? That would be the Bryce theory. What was it? The Harper...
Was it the Bryce Harper theory? The Harperthesis. Harperthesis.
When you lose your best player, you actually do better as a team. If they made the tournament, do you think you would opt back in? I don't think you can do that.
I think once you sign an agent and shit. Coach K doesn't really follow the rules.
If he signs an agent, he can't. But if he's just like chilling and taking classes, I think legally I'm sure he's definitely taking classes.
I do like that the debate is like Jake is student athlete all the way. Is this guy a quitter? Yes, by the definition of the word, he did quit the team, but we have to rephrase it, he's an opt-outer.
He opted out. I like how now anytime you quit something you can just say opted out.
It's way better. I actually – I'm going to opt out of wearing a cowboy hat in a couple days.
I have his back simply because I didn't have any chance of going to the tournament. I wouldn't want to be berated by a senile old man in Coach K for the next month and a half.
No, not at all. That sounds miserable.
Go make your millions, dude. I mean, Coach K, he is going to opt out himself soon, right? Yeah.
Also, there is an argument like, oh, well, his teammates might be upset. Listen, if I were his teammate, I'd be like, dude, that's a good move because I hope that you make the NBA and you take me out to a stake down.
That's exactly what I was going to say. You can't be too upset because it's like, that's your chance.
Yes. Yes.
That's the first thing I think of. Everyone's like, oh, he's quitting on his teammates.
Like, dude, do you think his teammates are really going to be like, hey, Jalen Johnson, lose my number, bro.

Right.

No.

I bet you Coach K has some weird rule for him.

When he told Coach K that he was quitting, he was probably like, well, okay, I'm going to need your Duke-issued tops, your bottoms, the pen, the notebook that we gave you.

All the money that Jeff Capel gave you.

Yeah, I'm going to need every brown bag that you've touched in the last six months back in my office. No slander for Jeff Capel.
None. Why? Recurring gusts of...
Benchmob. Yeah.
He's a podcast. He's a mobster.
No. Yeah, Jeff Capel is pretty much a mobster.
We've got to defend Will Wade now. He's part of the family, yeah.
He was a very nice guy. I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.
I love this show. This is February.
pardon my i'm just very interested to see how coach k spends this in the in the book that he's going to write in three years about how this was actually his best season coaching uh-huh getting you know what i don't think that they've had have they had any covid on their team uh no because they canceled the non-concasts yeah so coach playing coach k is gonna say like this is actually his most successful season coaching in his history. He's going to write a book about it and the chapter about Jalen Johnson opting out with Coach K.
Coach K is probably going to say, like, I advised him to because he's going to go to the NBA, make a lot of money. That's what we want first and foremost.
First is their health, and then secondly, we want them to get paid a lot of money. So I told Jalen Johnson to quit.
I mean, that would be the Cal line. Cal would be all in on this.
All right, what else? Oh, J.J. Watt might be a Brown, which that would be the greatest move that he's ever pulled.
Oh, I would love it. If he goes to the Browns or the Bills, everybody who's not a fan of their direct rivals is going to be so happy about that.
I think he's got to do the Browns, though, because to play against his brothers. So that's the only thing is, like, JJ playing twice against his brothers, that seems like a bridge too far.
He loves the spotlight that goes on him when he plays against them once. Like, once a year would be perfect.
But twice a year, it feels like that's a little... He doesn't want to put his parents through that big catch.
Yeah. Did you see his Instagram caption, though? What? All gas, no brakes.
That's Robert Saleh's line. Salah? It's the Northwestern.
Yeah. Spiros.
Yeah. Their strength coach.
Could be a little Jets action going on. Oh, you think he's just dropping a little? JJ going to the Jets would be an all-time bonehead move.
Billy, how's the quarterback comps going? Good. Oh, okay, so you're really hard at work.
Uh-huh, yeah. I still think he's going to go to the Titans, the Packers.
What's the timeline like on that thing? Like, when can we expect? The comps? Yeah. It's a rough, yeah.
I'm working on Kyle Trask right now. Okay.
So give us one thing about Kyle Trask. He looks like me.
He played at University of Florida. He's got a sweet cotee.
I'm thinking Kirk Cousins. Okay.
That's a mid-level. Okay.
Tom Brady upside. Okay.
Tom Brady upside, Kirk Cousins mid-level, and then Paxton Lynch as his downside for every quarterback. Marcus Russell.
You might have a little of that in him. I do think so.
I was actually thinking about the quarterback situation because I know that your Bears have been linked numerous times, first by part of my take to Carson Wentz. But I feel like Marcus Mariota is the guy that nobody's talking about out there.
I think he's still under contract. Yeah, but I mean, he's going to be Is he under contract? I'm pretty sure.
That's why I think people are talking about him. I think he's available.
He's been known to be available because they just re-signed Peterman, right? I think they want to get rid of Derek Carr. I've heard that Mariota is being mentioned in trade talks or I don't know if it's free agency.
I need to look at his contract. Yeah, no, he signed a two-year deal with the Raiders.
Here's what I would do, though, if I were the Pittsburgh Steelers. I would trade for Marcus Mariota to sit behind Ben for one year.
I don't think Ben... He already said he's coming back.
What are you doing, Billy? What? You're breathing like Jose. I have a buckled.
While you're just scrolling through. I have a buckled septum.
I can't breathe. Okay.
Big Ben has said he's coming back? Yeah, he said right after the season was over. Oh, yeah, but I think there will definitely be a conversation.
I mean, that's Big Ben. Yeah, there will be a conversation.
But, I mean, wouldn't it make all the sense in the world? They have to pay him like $40 million. Yeah, but wouldn't it make all the sense in the world to get Marcus Mariota on the Steelers? But wouldn't you want to just do it in a year when he's a free agent and not have to pay $10 million plus $42 million? Probably.
But in an ideal world, yeah. I'm just thinking that it would make sense for a lot of reasons for him to go to Pittsburgh.
Yeah, I just think that the Steelers are already in, like, cap hell because of Big Ben. So adding more salary at the quarterback position would probably not work.
I mean, I feel like he trends on Twitter every other day. Yeah.
Big Ben's also negotiating against himself, though, because in addition to saying that he's coming back next year already, he's, like, gone to the press and been like, I'm going to not take as much in salary next year. I'm waiting for them to come and talk to me, and then I'm going to cut my salary in half.
So Big Ben's already, he's pre-forfeiting half of his salary. And I don't even know if he can, I don't know how much more they can push off.
I don't know. I think this is the end of the line on the Big Ben number.
What if they... Again, this is what they've been building everything for, building everything for like, oh, this sucks now.
This is the Big Ben championship window that they're looking at? Well, yeah, yeah. Like this is – I mean, in the salary cap, the NFL is always just – like I feel like you can just make any move and then all of a sudden, oh, yeah, that money just doesn't exist anymore or push it off.
But I do know that the Steelers are in a pretty bad situation. Yeah.
The J.J. Watt free agency thing, though, it seems a little one-sided right now.
I want it to be more like, remember when Peyton Manning was taking his pick? He was getting flown to different cities. I want to see these teams making new Amazon headquarters type offers to J.J.
Watt. I want to see cities putting together packages with the key to the city for J.J.
Wine him and dine him a little bit. This is the only time that J.J.
is going to make everything about J.J. because he's way too classy and low key and humble of a guy to do something like that.
So Big Ben is his last year, his cap number is $41 million. That's significant.
That seems pretty high. That's significant.
that is significant that's a significant uh yeah they're 30 million dollars over the cap right now we really blew it by the way when we were talking about cool hat guys by not mentioning big ben in the fedora yes one of the coolest hats when he looked like a booger that's actually a a textbook like this is not a hat guy trying to pull off a hat moment. Big time.

That's in the dictionary.

Yes.

Everyone is like, dude, you can't do this.

All right.

Let's do our hot seat.

Cool.

Anything else about Duke?

Just, you know, anything?

Duke?

Yeah, I have one other thing.

Oh, yeah?

That was my hot seat.

Duke?

Yeah.

Oh, do tell.

What happened with them?

My hot seat was Duke.

Jalen Johnson quit the season. Oh, he did quit.
He quit. Yes, he did quit.
Okay. So it's official.
He has quit on the team. Did he quit on the fans? Yeah, but they're not in stadium this year, so I think it's a little different.
McCrazy? No, he's not taking away from the senior night or anything. Okay, good.
There's a lot of seniors at Duke that always come out. A tradition unlike any other.
All right, let's get to Hotsi Cool Throne. We're going to get right back to the show.
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All right, back to part of my take. Hank, hot seat, cool trunk.
I had two hot seats, thankfully, because I'm prepared. Nice.
My other one was Larry King's ex-wife. Yeah.
What happened? Which one? Moment of silence. The seventh one.
For Larry. The seventh out of nine? I think seven out of seven.
Oh. I think.
I thought he had eight. I think he had 7 because Tom Brady has as many rings as his wives do So he That was like That was actually like almost 3 full boots No that's just a fact I wasn't even joking No but that is a Rick Riley tweet We discussed it like a week ago Rick Riley would say rip Larry King His wives have as many rings as Tom Brady.
But he's also a gangster, yeah. You've got to give Rick Riley at least six months.
Because Tom Brady just won his seventh ring. And Larry King just died.
Right. He updated his will on a napkin, basically writing his most recent ex-wife out of the will because she was banging their son's Little League coach all the time.
Hilarious. Totsied her.
She fucked herself out of a lot of money. Just eat the napkin.
That's actually a great point. Presumably his ex-wife found the cocktail napkin and she did the right thing.
She wanted more to brag that she was fucking her son's third base coach than she wanted the money. So I take my hat off to her.
I think Larry King, did he have a lot of money? He was on TV for a bajillion years. But he had seven wives! How old was the last kid? You like keep losing money every time you get divorced.
I'm pretty sure Larry King was the king of prenups. You learn after your third divorce, you learn to make that air tight.
So you didn't even have to write it on that. It was probably a spite move, which I respect.
Larry King, by the way, if you go back and you watch his interviews, like clips from his interviews in the 80s, 90s, he was the GOAT. He was the Joe Rogan of his day.
My cool throne is, I have a couple as well, Pac-Man Jones. He's back, back doing Pac things.
Got arrested for being in a fight. And Happy Gilmore.
Yes. 25th anniversary was today of it getting released.
Adam Sandler did a video, just a simple cell phone video of him doing the Happy Gilmore swing. Very enjoyable.
Brings a smile to your face shooting mcgavin was chirping him it's just a beautiful thing to see it got me scared though i'm i'm i'm just gonna you know pray for the for the purity of the internet and that he's just doing it to to celebrate the 25th anniversary and not as like a future promotion for happy Gilmore 2 because that would be sad. Happy Gilmost.

So I think Chaps pointed it out, but if you went to Adam Sandler's Twitter, it's just the obituaries. Every tweet is just RIP simple.
His Instagram as well. Mix in a couple.
Like Bruce Arians? Yeah, but he... Adam Sandler's the type of guy, though, he's not on Twitter.
It's like, man, this is sad. I've got to share my condolences.
That's the only thing that's worthwhile of him getting on Twitter. I know, but it's a big-time bummer.
Mix in a couple like going to get Chipotle, something like that. I find it hard to believe that in 25 years, you haven't done the happy-go-more swing once.
He hasn't? No, he said it was the first time. Got it like he hasn't done it in i wonder if he plays golf often he probably does he's a pick a basketball i think once you get that rich you like have to play yeah you probably do although he might be so rich he doesn't have to play he just owns the court he just no he just has guys like hey we don't play golf you just have to come and play pick up basketball with me no i don't play boner dogs production.
Not for Voter Dogs production. Yeah, that's true.
Adam, what do you call? All right, PFT, your hot seat, Cool Throne? My hot seat is trading cards. Yes.
Trading cards are on the hot seat big time. I know that some people have gotten really into collecting them recently, but they're getting cucked in a major way by a new trend out there.
I think it's called NBA Top Shot. I'm trying to learn more about it because it makes no sense to me, but I'm also certain that there are so many suckers that believe in it that I can make a bunch of money doing it.
It's these hologram things, right? No, they're selling video highlights. They're selling GIFs on the internet, and you can buy a GIF online.
Somebody just bought like a nine second video of um of zion williamson blocking a shot and they paid a hundred thousand dollars for it's a video you can watch on twitter right now it's on the internet you can find on youtube but they own that video on this website and because they use the word blockchain when describing well what they're doing i now it's money? I don't know. But they've figured out a way to monetize gifts, and I think I'm in on it.
Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, I own Dogecoin. You own Dogecoin.
I don't think we can point at anyone and be like, how could you do this? Yeah, exactly. We own a fake dog coin.
I made 900% investment on buying a dog yeah that i don't own so i'm down for this yeah so i'm in i'm not gonna buy it but i'll support it but it's it's it's weird to me like getting into the culture because you see that people are like wind horse wrote an article about it today that's how you know it's really hip uh and people were replying to the tweet like explaining how they're making money on it and it's just like the biggest dorks that you could ever imagine. But they know something that I don't know.
So I feel like it's one of those things I'd rather just kind of be bullied into accepting as being the future than try to fight against the windmills and be like, I'll never change. So yeah, I guess gifts are...
Sounds cool to me. Gifts are monetized now.
Yes, yes. My cool throne is fucking at work.
Oh. There was an MTA worker that got busted.
They were a train conductor, and they were getting paid overtime on the clock, and they got busted fucking in the rail yard with one of their employees. Okay.
And I actually think that if you work a blue-collar job, especially if you're a train operator, you should be allowed to have sex on the clock. You don't want someone who's dangerously horny to be driving your train.
You want someone who's mellow, relaxed, has that post-nut clarity. You don't want them getting turned on when you go into a tunnel.
You don't want the vibrations doing weird stuff. You don't want them going fast to impress the babes.
so i'm i'm all in favor of blue color workers being afforded a fuck break you don't even you don't get a cigarette break anymore unless you fuck somebody just before it so just let people have fuck breaks at work it's the new trend i'm uh yeah why not the train conductors are people too i feel like that's also something that exists in asian cultures like i fucking yeah no yeah Yeah, a lot of fucking. I mean, China has the most people.
But just like getting nap breaks or getting fuck breaks at work. I feel like a lot of Asian cultures have like hotels that are built into office buildings.
Nap pods. Nap pods, exactly.
Yeah, it's like the Ohio State locker room. Remember when we went through there and there were the nap bags? Yeah.
That's, I mean, everyone needs a nap every now and then. Recharge the battery.
You recharge your phone, might as well recharge your body. All right, my hot seat is, so we talked about Akarsun Wentz is still out there.
I think he's going to get traded. I have a bad feeling that Ryan Pace is behind this.
I don't know if you've noticed, but like Colin Coward, essentially. Colin Coward, Bart Scott, and I think Orlovsky all were like, if the Bears get Carson Wentz, they're instant Super Bowl contenders, which is not true.
Well, Orlovsky just loves Carson Wentz. Yeah, but it feels like there's something going on.
Something's afoot, and I would like to stem the tide. I don't think I can, but it feels like something's afoot here because the Bears to stem the tide I don't think I can but

it feels like something's afoot here because

the Bears are not a Super Bowl contender

with Carson Wentz

especially not with giving up a first round pick

what if you get that Carson Wentz though from

2017

the other thing is like

Eagles fans I don't understand

they still have such an affinity for him

like

I've heard the line

oh I'm sorry like he'd be the best

Thank you. Eagles fans, I don't understand.
They still have such an affinity for him. Like, I have heard the line, oh, I'm sorry, like he'd be the best quarterback in Bears history.
Yeah, every quarterback would be. That's not a bar that we're trying.
Like, you could just name a name and be like, yeah, he'd be the best quarterback in Bears history. I actually understand where Eagles fans are coming from because anytime you have a quarterback that is like that good for a brief period of time, that's how you choose to remember him by.
Yeah, but at this point, it's over. So you should – like don't – I would divorce myself from those feelings.
Right, but it's tough to do. Like I still think that Robert Griffin is going to win a Super Bowl one day even though I know that's insane.
Like a lot of Eagles fans – No, I mean I have the feelings for Cutler, yeah.. That thought, that memory, those two, three months exist in the back of your head where you're like if he could get back to playing that way, then yeah, he'd be legit.
But the problem is he hasn't been like... I think most of them have accepted the fact that he's not going to get back to that point.
But if you tell them what if he showed up this offseason, he came back for training camp and it was 2017 again they instantly like get those feelings yeah yeah he's the best yeah um either way i think there's something's afoot and then my cool throne is lebron because he would have been uh the best two sport athlete of all time making a nfl roster i actually believe him that's not i don't know why anyone would say like oh leBron couldn't make an NFL team. No, he absolutely could.
Without a doubt. You might go as far as to say he is the best two-sport athlete of all time.
He's the best tight end of all time. Yes.
Just give it to him. That's actually a respect to biz.
Yeah. Who's better than him? I think...
I actually go as far as to say he's a better tight end than he is a basketball player. The high school tape...
Sports monetary reasons, yeah. The SportsCenter tweeted out a high school highlight tape, and he is a basketball player.
The high school tapes that he... SportsCenter tweeted out a high school highlight tape, and he wasn't even scoring touchdowns.
It was just like him catching... I think he set an Ohio State record for the most touchdowns.
Breaking one pass and getting tackled five yards away. If he wanted to go play football right now, you don't think every team would give him a tryout? Yeah, he'd be Tim Tebow.
He'd just be there to sell tickets. Yeah, because he was so good.
I think LeBron James, we should say he's the best American soccer player. Jake is showing me a clip of LeBron shooting from way too far away, being selfish.
That's all I see. Oh, it's an air ball? Yeah.
Oh, terrible shot. He literally pulled up from half court.
I thought he swished it. He pulled it from half court and air balled it.
I think in high school he was actually listed as 6'9", 270, playing wide receiver. So he was actually bigger.
That actually squares up with the fact that he loses weight and size during games, remember? Yes. How much weight does he? No, no, no.
He gained weight during one game. Which I think was just a sweaty shirt.
Yeah, he was wearing a towel. I do think, though, he would have been a very, very good football player.
You don't have to dribble football. You can travel all you want.
Titans usually aren't that big. What? Gronk is a monster.
Yeah. And LeBron's bigger than Gronk.
I know. That's what I'm saying.
No, he is probably too tall. Right.
Yeah, no, that might be true. All right, Billy, do you have a hot seat? Cronk gets hurt every day.
Hot seat beef. Bill Gates doesn't want us to eat steak and wants us to eat synthetic beef.
I saw that, and someone went viral being like... That's not true.
The author was like, it's not really what he said. No, yeah, so the recommendation was if you eat less than, if you eat three steaks a week and you decrease it, you will, like, greatly help the earth.

And then someone was like, who the hell is eating three steaks a week?

And I just did the Homer Simpson gif.

Like, I am for sure.

We all eat three meals with steak in it, right? Yes, three meals with steak. And he reaches that for dinner, right? Yeah.
Billy, you do it. Yeah.
I mean, this is just guy talk right now. Just letting the meat talk.
Bro, I do chicken and then I do steak. And then I go back to chicken.
Pork. Sometimes mix in pork.
But it's mostly just steak. True.
And chicken. I've come to think about it, most of the salads that I've eaten have steak in them.
When I, whatever the opposite of a vegan is, that's what we are. Like, I don't remember the last meal I've had non-breakfast that didn't have meat involved.
Paleo. Yeah.
Always toppings on pizza. Pepperoni.
What are you talking about? Sausage. Cheese pizza.
No, cheese pizza? Okay, Verge. What are you going to say, Billy? My Cool Throne? Yeah.
Mardi Gras. Oh, yeah.
Because it's way too cold this year. Oh.
But they also canceled it already. Ah.
Okay. So you're not missing out on much.
Two birds with Austin. Nice.
Yeah, but nipples in the cold hit different. Mm-hmm.
Poke an. Jake, what do you have? Hot seat, cool throw.
Hot seat is the Baltimore Orioles, so fan graphs came out with playoff projections of percentages, and the Baltimore Orioles have a 0.0% chance to make the playoffs, and there's 162 games. 0.0%.
You have to bet it now. It's incredible.
I'm smashing a bet on them. I mean, that just makes no sense.
But I guess... Flycaster City.
It's us against the world, yeah. 0.0.
0.0, I guess. And then Cool Throne is Bills Mafia.
We talked about the Australian Open last week. Some storylines developing.
Serena's still in. And so is Jessica Pagula.
She's the daughter of the Bills owners. And she's having a Cinderella run right now.
she's still in and so is Jessica Pagula She's the daughter of the Bills owners And she's having a Cinderella run right now She's even in the first set So she could be done by the time this podcast is out But yeah, that'll be some story And if it's her versus Serena in the final It'll be Dolphins owner versus Bills owner, AFC East Serena's the Dolphins owner? She has some steak, yeah Got it that, though. I think we have to root for the Bills, right? Bills Mafia? Yeah.
Australia is, if Buffalo was a country, it would be Australia. Yeah, so we're all in on Bills Mafia tennis version.
What time do they play the Australian Open? So they're 16 hours ahead of us. So they're just starting right now.
It's 2 p.m. Rafa will be on like at 4 a.m.
You got any locks, Jake? I'm going to pass on the Australian Open. You got any action for tonight? No.
Any locks? I'm going to pass on the Australian Open. Wake me up when Wimbledon starts.
All right. Strawberries and cream, baby.
Breakfast at Wimbledon, not. Rafa doesn't lose.
Fourth wheel in Sydney. The king of clay, they call him.
King of clay.

We're going to play this summer again, right?

I won't get hurt?

Yeah.

Oh, I forgot you got hurt.

And then Billy made fun of you for getting hurt.

Remember that, Billy?

Billy is so jacked up.

Billy, are you just reading Instagram comments of a picture of you knocking out Jose?

No.

What the hell?

That's all I would be doing.

Guys, I hope not.

Honestly, how long did you spend actually doing that, seeing what people were saying

about your knockout?

I just kind of logged off.

Yeah, sure.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Let's get to our interview.

Back on the ground.

Awesome.

Why wouldn't, like what?

I don't know.

You didn't want to see people being like, fuck yeah?

I was just chilling.

Just chilling. You're a meme though, Billy.
What does it feel like to be a meme? It's kind of crazy. Yeah.
Well said. T-shirts are coming.
Eventually, three weeks after. Strike while the iron's hot.
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N-O-O-M dot com slash PMT. Okay, here he is, Robert Ory.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is seven-time champion, Big Shot Bob is who you know him as.
He's got a podcast that you got to go listen to right now. It is Robert Ori.
His podcast is on podcast one. It's called The Big Shot Bob Pod, which, I mean, you almost had to have a podcast because you have that nickname.
Is that – let's just start there. Is that the coolest nickname to possibly have to just be like, yeah, that's Big Shot Bob.
He always hits the big shots's funny for a long time i was like i don't like the nickname but then i realized if you get a nickname that means you made it right yeah so either you can go the other way but um i i kind of embraced it as i got on it got on in life and it's it's funny because when you meet other athletes, they'd be like, what's up, Big Shot? I'm like, do y'all even know what my real name is? Yeah. That's pretty cool, though.
Yeah. I read that you prefer Big Shot Rob to Big Shot Bob.
Is that true? No, it was actually my mom. My mom didn't want me to be called Bob.
I don't care. I think Bob sounds better.
But my mom didn't want me to be called Bob because that's what called my dad. And so she's like, you need your own identity.
Say big shot Rob. I'm like, I don't really like Rob.
So I just, I did it as a joke. And then next thing you know, everybody's like, what's up, big shot Rob? I'm like, I kind of like Bob.
The background that you're on right now, for those listening, it's, it's the ultimate flex. You've got seven pictures of yourself.
And I'm assuming that those are from seven different title teams right uh yes the funny part is i put it on my zoom and i don't know how to take it down so but it's not a bad backdrop so yeah it's it's a it's a significant moment in each championship so and that represents um the seven rings yes so uh Another thing that would that be i assume is great about the podcast is when you have guests on you always have more rings than them unless you have bill russell right like that's the only one that you can't have on and and be like listen as a seven ring holder uh so do you do you flex on your podcast guests when you have them on no i don't flex man flex, man, because the pitch is in the backdrop. So that kind of flexed for me, like you said.
But it's weird that, you know, if you have Bill Ross-Long, it would be an honor to have him on my podcast. Because think about it.
Dude won 11 championships, man. You know how hard that is? I think he won 11 in 13 years or whatever it was.
It's hard. You's hard you know i only won seven and 16 so you you know it doesn't compare to his his legacy do you ever uh do you ever put all the rings on at once i did it once um i had some friends um i had you know i'm really good friends with antonio mcdice and um after we beat them in the playoffs uh in 2005 when he was with the pistons uh he kind of came over for my birthday.
And I kind of had him on just messing with him. But I rarely put him on.
I haven't seen him in about three or four years because they're in a safe deposit box. So talking about today's NBA, and we're going to talk about your career as well because I have a bunch of questions for that as well.
But the idea of peaking too early as a team so right now Utah Jazz are like on fire absolutely on fire you were part of seven championship teams you know what it takes to have a championship you know pedigree in that mix is there from our side because we're dumb you know sports fans that usually have bad takes but we will say oh yeah they're peaking too earlyaking too early. Is that a real thing? Can you feel it when you're on a team? Like, hey, we have enough to do it when it counts.
Don't worry about February and March here. You know, peaking too early is, I don't know where it came from.
Let's say if this was the Los Angeles Lakers on this run, would they say they're peaking too early? You know, what they say with the Bulls back in the day, or Golden State Warriors, are they peaking too early? No, it's just a team playing good basketball, and that's what it's about, because now they're putting in a situation every night where it's do or die. What I mean by that is teams now want to beat you because you have the best record in basketball.
It's not when you're like four or five in the road, and it all, we got to go to Utah. We just go phone it in tonight.
But no, they want to beat Utah. They want to, and if they have a streak, they want to show them that they're not that good because every NBA guy has pride.
Every NBA guy wants to have that, that one notch in their belt. So to say, when they go out and be the team, that's the best in the West.
And think about it. They're the best in the West when you got the Clippers, you got the Lakers, and you got Denver, and you got all these good teams, but they're on top of the world right now.
Yeah. And you played for some great coaches, honestly.
I mean, like when you think about coaches that are able to keep their teams locked in over the course of the season, Phil Jackson and Pop come to mind as like 1-1-A.

I assume that they had like different methods of making sure that their team was going to be locked in

because the NBA season can get really long.

It's shorter this year, but it can be a long grind.

What was the difference between those two guys

in terms of how they kept the locker room loose,

how they kept people focused in over the course of that long season?

The thing about coaches, when you have a good team, you can just sit back and let the team

take care of themselves.

And you have great leaders.

You think about when we were in L.A.

Phil had great leaders at B. Shaw, myself, and Rick, who kind of ran that team to keep

Shaq and Kobe in line.

So you have guys like that on your team that have a strong mind and strong will.

People always think because you make the most money, you score all the points, that you're

the leader of a team.

Thank you. so you have guys like that on your team that have a strong mind and strong will you know people always think because you make the most money you score all the points that you're the leader of a team it's not always the case like that it's the guys that the guys that doing all the scoring points respect because we've been in the league a while i had one championship bshaw had been there he played for a lot of great teams a lot of great coaches so we earned the respect of the players so when when you have guys like that, the coaches usually go to those guys, hey, get them in line.
It's not the big dogs because the big dogs are usually too busy doing commercials, doing this kind of stuff. But for us back then, playing on the Lakers, playing on the Spurs, you had coaches that treated everybody the same.
And that's another key because, you know, you can yell at Kobe and you go on the end and yell at Devin Brown. And then you go and pop, you can yell at Tim and go on the end of the bench and yell at me.
And it didn't really matter because we know what was at stake. And when you have coaches that can respect the players and put the onus on the players to take over the team, they can pretty much sit back and say know drive me to a championship so pft mentions pop and phil jackson but you you're on the record saying rudy t was your your best coach why was he uh you know better than those two guys in your mind i say he was my favorite favorite coach yeah i because on a selfish reason he ran plays for me.
The other two didn't. That's fair.
Yeah. But no, because it boils down to, I love it for me personally.
And I can only say when you ask someone your favorite is my favorite, you know, I might like hamburgers. You might like hot dogs.
So for me, my favorite was Rudy because I love it when a coach comes to you and ask you what's the feel of the game, what you see out there. And then get in the huddle he looks at the guy say okay what are we going to run that's just a personal thing for me because I know it feel it's like oh we're going to run this this and this with pop we're going to run this and this and when a coach gets a feel from a team like you know what do you want to run you know when I was with the Rockets nine times out of ten it was like hey run for dreaming.
Everybody go spot up and get out of the way. So you have to, for me, as a player, even when I was coaching my son's AAU team, we're getting a huddle.
And I said, yo, guys, what y'all want to run? And I remember the first time I did that, they looked at me like, you the coach? I said, no. I said, you guys got a field.
What are you comfortable with? What do you want to run? And it was like, well, let's do this. And after and after that, they will come to me like, Hey, yo coach, they, they, I can hear them talking.
They can't stop this play coach. I hear them talking.
They, they, they having trouble with this. And as a player, you relay that message to the coach and it's up to the coach to take the information and put it out.
They're not saying that Phil and pop didn't do that, but Rudy did it more often than those two. Yeah, the guy that you would alternate winning titles with, Steve Kerr, I feel like he does a pretty good job of that with having Draymond as like his dog on the team.
You know, like he's got the Splash Brothers. He had KD.
But when it came time to like really crack some skulls, he'd like tell Draymond to go mix something up. And that would be the guy that kept everybody everybody else in check what did that look like for you if Phil was like hey uh hey Robert we need to make sure that Shaq is is in line this week would he tell you to like just I don't know say like a snide like smart ass comment to him in the huddle or we tell you like throw an elbow into Shaq see what he does no he'll be in practice like we need to get in line Shaq you need to make your free throws he would say things Alex Phil was the type of person he didn't give a shit about anything he just said what he wanted to say you know think about it he called Sacramento cowbell town town right before we played in the playoffs and everybody in arena had cowbells and we couldn't even hear him cope so that was the best you know best game we ever had because we just ran what we wanted to run so but you know he you know, he would come out and say stuff like, you know, we're not rebounding and look at Shaq like, okay, you know, we're not doing this.
And then look at Kobe, you know, and it was things that he would say. And then myself, Rick or B.
Shaw or Derek would pull them to the side. Like, dude, we need to work on this.
I said, I know you're trying to do this, but this is our goal. You know, we would have – you know, this day and age,

people always have team meetings.

We wouldn't have a team meeting.

We would just say it in the locker room after practice.

I'm like, there's no need for a team meeting.

I'm like, we ain't here anyway, so let's just, you know, talk about it.

We're on the bus.

Let's talk about it.

We had breakfast.

Let's talk about it.

Communication was the key to every team I was on.

We talked about what we needed to do. We talked about our faults, and we weren't afraid to tell each person on the team if they're slacking in a certain area and they need to get better.
Or even if it comes down to a person not showing up on time. It's about respecting the process and respecting the team.
I like what you said right there, because the second you have to call something a players-only meeting, you've already lost. It's like if you're in a marriage, you don't say, oh, we should go to counseling this week.
That should be like your ongoing conversation should be like just having good communication. So that's interesting though.
Like, yeah, if you're, if you have really good team chemistry, your season is one big meeting with your guys and everything, everything should be on the table like all the time. Our team meeting is, hey, let's go to dinner.
And if we got next game have a couple drinks and talk about it you know it's just what it was and and I just always want to hear these guys oh we had a team meeting in my mind team meetings are for losers because right now you floundering in the wind you get ready to point some fingers and people's feelings get hurt in team meetings and you just talk about it and you're doing it on a constant basis you get used to it so feelings don't get hurt you know i'm not gonna say they don't always get hurt sometimes you know people get feeling but you know it's for the benefit of the team it's not about you it's about we and that's what a lot of times when you have guys who don't really care about the big dogs you know i laugh a lot of times these guys will look at the big dogs when they make a mistake they're scared of they won't say anything because they're afraid of being traded or something i'm like dude you think i really care about being traded as long as my paycheck still comes on the first and the 15th you can trade me you know you're just gonna be losing an exclusive asset so and i think a lot of guys just have to think like that and just voice their opinion no matter if you're the top dog or you're the last dog as long as that opinion is is effective so speaking of that and speaking to draymond i i assume you saw his comments last night uh you've been in a couple interesting situations you almost got traded to detroit right before the rockets won their two titles and then it went back because of failed physical and you also got traded to phoenix uh when charles barkley went to Houston and you were in a situation that you didn't like. I actually was listening to a podcast coming into work today.
You were talking about how Danny Ainge basically admitted that he hated the Rockets and you guys got off on a bad foot right away when he was in Phoenix. But what did you make of draymond's comments about like player empowerment and having a say in being traded and you know the imbalance that you see sometimes when it comes to owner versus player well you know sports is always evolving and and getting better and better um draymond green comments were right on point because it's so funny how teams get mad at players when they ask for a trade.
But when a team says, OK, we're going to bench you because we're trying to trade you, it didn't it doesn't make sense. And in this day and age, if you're not happy with a situation, you know, as a team come together, I know players sometimes should keep it in-house.
And I feel like they should. But when a team comes out like that, that's wrong.
You want a player to keep it in-house, you should keep it in-house. And at the end of the day, it's a business.
And we always talk about tampering in the NBA. And if a team just says, OK, we're putting Blake Griffin on the shift, who wants him? To me, that's tampering.
You know, you're throwing that into the masses. Why can't you make a phone call to the GM and say, hey, I'm going to suggest this.
But when a player says, oh, you know, I want to be traded or I wouldn't mind playing with this guy. You know, I would have loved to play with Sprewell on a team, get that Bama connection again.
But you can't say that because you have that friendship, that bond. When you both was grinding and trying to get to the NBA, it's a strong connection there.
So guys just have to be careful in what they say. And it's not fair, but it's the nature of the business and you have to deal with it.
What about in a situation like James Harden where, you know, he signs a deal, they build the team around him, and then I think he admitted that he came in not in the best shape, wasn't really trying. Some of the last days in the Rockets, you know, it was visible.
Yeah, it was hilarious and visible. But that seems like, you know, I don't really know what the solution is there

because he said he wanted to get traded, but he also –

the Rockets have built something around him.

So I don't know.

That's a weird situation to me.

That feels different than a Drummond or a Blake Griffin.

Yeah.

Every scenario is different.

And in James' way, I think – you know, I love James as a player.

I think he handled it wrong because when a team, an organization, does everything, you know, you ask for this, we give you that. You ask for that, we give you that.
And now you ask for a trade. You already have a great relationship with that team.
Go to them and say, hey, you know, I'm going to come in and do my best for you, but I would like to have a trade and these are my teams and and even

and you think about it if I was the owner there's no way in heck I'm trading you to where you want to go you know there's no way and for them to actually still bend over backwards for this guy and send to where he wants to go shows you what kind of art how much love they have for him even with the GM that did everything for him was now in Philly.

Right.

So I just feel like the way that city embraced him, they embraced him better than they embraced Dream, and better than they embraced Mario Eli, Kenny Smith, everybody who won a championship, T-Mac, they put their love and heart and soul in this guy because he was James Harden, and he did a lot for the organization, but he didn't bring a championship there. And so when you don't bring a championship there, you should respectfully go to the organization that's done everything for you and do it quietly.
You know, in AD Case when he was in New Orleans, I figured, hell, you are benching me, not me benching out right right you know every scenario is different yeah no it's true we uh we talk about the clutch gene a lot on this podcast we're big believers in having the clutch gene I think you exemplify whatever the clutch gene is to you like what's it like are you in the zone when you hit those last shots like at the end of a game in a big moment what What is it like? Walk me through the brain of Robert Ory when you get, you know, a kick out or like a tip out ball game five against the Sacramento Kings. What's going through your head when you're hitting that shot? So the scenario is when you – it starts on the bench when they call a play.
And it's not for me, but I'm the second option. So I know it's for me.
And I don't know if that makes sense because every team knows your plays. Every team cuts off your first option.
So for me, it's a confidence builder that I know the players coming to me. And the fact that I know my teammates believe in me, all I'm saying is, yo, it's like taking a walk in the park.
Don't think about it. Catch, shoot, hold it, release, you know, all that kind of stuff.
So I don't really think, man, you know, and I know it sounds weird, but every time the ball comes to me and I, I'm more comfortable in that situation because I know I have to take the shot. Usually you get a pass and it's like, you know, 10 seconds on the shot clock.
You're always looking for that other option. I'm looking for Shaq.
I'm looking for Tim. I'm looking for Dream.'m looking for Clyde you're looking for all these different people but when it comes down to that last second shot you gotta think about nobody but yourself and so when that shot comes I'm not thinking I'm reverting back to those days when I was a man in high school when I was the man in college I'm taking a J so I literally think about nothing because it's just playing basketball and it's just like you know getting up in the morning like i always say and walking to the bathroom you don't think about going left right left you just do it and that's what i do i just do it what about uh one of my favorite big shot bob moments was actually a dunk that left handed dunk uh in the finals against the pistons spurs pistons one had to – you thought about that one.
I mean, that one was different. That one was – you went left-handed and won.
Who did you dunk on? Was it Tayshaun? Rip Hamilton. Oh, it was Rip Hamilton.
Yeah. That was – that one was, like, significant.
That was not, you know, just shooting, playing in the – like, you did that, and there was malice behind that. Well, I wanted to shoot the ball, but Bruce Bourne threw the ball at my ankles and allows the defense to get out there.
And it's weird because, you know, people do so many things when they play basketball where they don't think. It just comes natural.
And for me, I got into that moment, and if you watch me in layups, I practice that all the time. I practice taking off and trying to get to the rim and dunking the ball.
I know I'm right-handed, but I broke my thumb in college, so I really can palm the ball that well, so I always dunk left-handed because I can really grip it. And so for me, at that moment, I just said, get to the hole, And I just started taking off.
I thought I took off too far out, which I almost did. But for me, it was one of my favorite dunks of all time because it was on somebody, it was in the finals, and it was during a key moment in game five where I was just lighting them up from outside.
So it good if you look closely is that there yeah you can see the ghosting that one yeah you can actually see it it's called ghosting and you can see me dunking on uh hell yeah what's what's ghosting explain that to us i mean we know what it is but our listeners might not know but um ghosting is where they It likely put a like it looks like a ghost and it looks like a slight painting in the back of a drawing where if you look close enough you'd be like oh is that yeah so the last three pictures all have ghost um moments in it um so okay that's sick i like what about yeah shooting a three over Chris Webber game four, dunk, and that's me holding up seven championships. That's crazy.
So the opposite of clutch, you were on the court for Nick Anderson. Well, what did you think I was going to say? Did you think I was going to say that? I thought you were going to talk about my last shot as a Laker.
Oh, yeah. Well, you did have.
I do wonder, like you had a couple shots that you missed the big shots. Was that? That must have been like, what the hell just happened? You go back and look at the film and look at my face.
When I missed that shot against San Antonio, that put it was up 3-2 going on. When I missed that shot, I've never been that dejected since high school.
And it was, and you should me talk to myself if they had a camera on it it would be like dang this dude got a big ego because i literally said i don't miss this shit but i don't miss this shit you know and i missed it you know i was so pissed i don't think you made a three in that series not to bring a up bad moments. You didn't make a three in that series, correct?

I didn't make a three all playoffs if you really want to bring up bad moments.

I think I was 338.

I just, you know, and the crazy part about that is I had an awful playoff series from three,

and the Lakers thought I was washed up. So that's one of the reasons they got rid of me.

But I'm like, do you realize that this is – I've won five championships at this moment.

I played more playoff games than anybody on our team together. And my body just was tired.
I went back and looked steady to film. My jump shots were probably like an inch too short because I didn't have the legs.
There's so many things. I remember one time, it was funny, Rick Fox failed right next to me.
I was so tired. I just looked down at him and kept walking.

And I was literally tired because also in that season,

I went up from 23 minutes a game to 30 minutes a game.

I know people said seven minutes is nothing.

Seven minutes is a lot of minutes in the NBA

when you only used to playing 23 minutes a game to 24 minutes a game.

So it took me beyond what my body could do.

And I needed a break.

Yeah.

So the Nick Anderson though, that, how bad did you feel? Cause that's one of those moments where you didn't at all, even a little bit like, Holy shit. Is this guy okay? Because that's what I'm talking about.
You know, but still like that's, that is the opposite. I actually will – I'll count that for you.
He probably saw Big Shot Bob, and, you know, you weren't all the way Big Shot Bob yet, but still. Like, that is the absolute opposite of Big Shot Bob missing those free throws.
Yeah, we always talk about the spink that got tight on that one, and for him to miss four free throws. And and if you look at his career his career was never the same

it was just you know

and I love Nick I used to love watching him

in Illinois I love watching him play

he was one of those dynamic guards I remember

when MJ came back that year he locked

up MJ you know it was

he did some fantastic things

and then all of a sudden missing

those four free throws in a row and allowed

us to win game one in their building

I think it hurt him because

Thank you. he did some fantastic things and then all of a sudden missing them those four free throws in a row and allowing us to win game one in their building i think it hurt him because every guy knows that confidence is the most important thing when it comes to playing a sport or doing anything you got to have that confidence and if you don't have that confidence it's it's you're out you should you're gone and he was like a was he like an 88 free throw or something like that it's twitter didn't exist for that that's one of those moments that he would have been roasted forever yeah do you think do you honestly think like big shot bob standing next to big brick nick on the foul stripe you think that he like he felt that presence he was like i can't live up to this guy you know i think realizing the role that we were on as with the houston rock is being in their building, playing them, playing them that close, there was a lot of pressure now.
We're stepping up there, and he missed a two, but when he gets the rebound, he's like, oh, crap, I'm doing it again. There's a lot of thinking going into that process.
Of course, you got Clyde Drexler talking trash to him. You got Kenny Smith talking trash to him.
And then Horace with the goggles on just looking at him like, dude like dude come on you need to make these you know so eyes look bigger yeah it was a lot of pressure on him yeah yeah I think actually your most clutch play that you've ever had it wasn't a shot it wasn't a dunk it was against the Suns when you hip check yeah you hip check Steve Nash flipped the entire series like you did a great job of hip checking him cinnamon to like sent him into the scorer's table, basically. But then in the aftermath of that, that worked out so much better than you could have ever planned that Stoudemire comes off the bench.
I think Raja Bell came off the bench. Raja Bell was on the court.
It was Dow. Yeah, you gave Raja Bell a little elbow in the face.
Yeah, so who else came off the bench then? I remember Stoudemire running out there. Diao is a dick.
Yeah, Horst Diao. Horst Diao.
Right when you saw them come onto the court during the fight, how long did it take to sink in? That's probably the best play that I've ever made. You know what's weird? Some of the Phoenix Suns fans actually said I planned that.
I'm like, damn, I'm a smart basketball player, but I ain't that damn smart. No, I can't predict what some guys are going to do.
And for me, I didn't want them guys to get suspended because it didn't really affect the game by stepping on the court. And I know people look at me and say, no, because you want to win.
You know, everybody said, well, if they wouldn't have got suspended, this would have happened. And I look back, I can say this now because i can't get fined if you look at how steve nash got treated in that series and how they was loving him and giving him every freaking call that was one of the reasons why i was so frustrated when i went over there because they gave steve nash every call i'm like are you serious right now i'm like it was so frustrating when you can clearly see that the calls aren't, you know, equal.
I know people are going to say, stop hating. I said, no, but, you know.
I think what people are going to say is I think they're like Kings fans are going to hear that clip and be like, are you fucking serious right now? But here's the thing. Kings fans don't realize in game six, they got all the calls.
They got some calls where Bibby traveled.

They got some calls where it went out of bounds and they got the ball back.

So the Kings fans have no right to say anything.

I don't know. They want to talk about the foul because you can go back and look at the

fouls.

You know, all the fouls were probably one or two that was questionable.

But for the most part, don't be mad because Vlade started messing up down the stretch chris chris webber didn't want to shoot the ball down the stretch so we can't control that the refs had no control over that tim donaghy was the ref yeah he was in the sun series too he was so actually let's talk about that shot i alluded to it earlier the one against the kings that one i got so mad at you after you hit that shot because i was with some friends we had bet i don't know probably like five bucks or something stupid on the game because i was in high school at the time but i was so mad at you because you're six foot ten that's the last shot of the game they're driving to the basket to make that shot you should be crashing the boards what were you doing standing outside the three-point line just hoping a miraculous tip out would come to you we go I'm going to walk you through the play. The play is called what the fuck.
Don't lie. And I'm inbounding the ball, and I'm supposed to set a pick on Kobe, and Kobe's supposed to come off.
If my defender went with him, he's supposed to kick it back. And so he had the alley to the – he had the lane to get to the rack.
He missed it missed it and it came off so I'm still out there because I know Kobe has hit me so many times at the last moment so I'm just standing out there waiting on the ball and there's no it was no need and and also you guys think about I'm supposed to be the man that gets back on that play so I'm thinking about that even though I'm like okay and then i'm also thinking they might tip it out because if they can't get the rebound you tip it out it's too crowded anyway it's seven footers in there so i'm not there chilling waiting so all these scenarios are going through my head and people say well why are you out there even fish was outside the three-point line nobody talks about him hanging out there but and crazy part, it was a perfect tip out. It hit me exactly where I love it, and I raised up and knocked it down.
And I tell people all the time, we would have never been in that situation if Phil would have ran some plays for me because I was hot that game. I'd already just made two threes from the corner, but I had no plays for him for me.
It was one of those moments that kind of solidified me being Big Shot Bob. It was a great moment.
I was doing it in a Laker uniform, man, on their floor. It's perfect that it's called What the Fuck because that's exactly what I said.
Brad, that's probably the only words that I said for 10 seconds after you hit that shot. We're going to get right back to the show.

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Restrictions apply. All right, back to part of my take.
And now here's more Robert Ory. So speaking of the Lakers, the Shaq-Kobe beef, how tense was it at times? Was it awkward for you guys in the locker room? I read part of the book, the Jeff Perlman book, and Kobe obviously maybe all-time competitor next to Michael Jordan in terms of how serious he was and how serious he took it.
Was it overblown by the media or was it real that there was tension all the time? I haven't read his book, so I have no clue what he said. I'll tell you one funny story.
There was one story that you were drinking a beer and it was Kobe's rookie year, I want to say. And he came up to you and was like, why are you drinking?

We have a game tomorrow.

And you were like, I'll be fine.

Don't worry about it.

He said that to me?

Yeah, Kobe said that to you.

No, no.

Okay.

That is such, you know, I always laugh at people who write stories

and that wasn't really there.

I'm not going to call his name up.

I remember a guy talking about,

we had this thing where, you know, we do this with Kobe. We wouldn't, we wouldn't pass in the ball and someone else was telling that story and they weren't even on the team.
Like,

why are you telling that story? You don't even know the background of that. If it's true or not,

you go on by hearsay, let one of us tell the story. Right.
But you know, the thing about

Kobe was a rookie at 18. They took the beer out of the locker room because he was 18 so nobody was ever in the locker room drinking a beer and kobe got his seriousness from us from b shaw myself and rick because we came to practice to play and we came hard you know and everybody he think about it his mama mentality came win.
When Rick D. Fish, what D.
And everybody, think about it. His mama mentality came when? When Rick, D.
Fish, me, the guys who were workhorses, after we left, he learned from us. And so his mama mentality wasn't doing the three-peat.
It wasn't doing that. It was after that, where he got these knuckleheads with him that didn't know how to play.
Yeah. And then come to practice and take a seat.
Swoosh Parker. Yeah.
So now he had to have this mentality. So back to what you were saying is like, it was weird because we would be in practice.
They were on the same team. They would compete.
You know, the second team would kick their ass. Kobe get mad, wouldn't talk to the second team for a while.
But there was never – I never saw any beef with Kobe and Shaq on the court, even when it was on separate teams or in the locker room. Because when we're done with practice, everybody goes to the locker room.
We sit down. We ice our knees.
We sit down. We shoot shit.
Right. And that's when you know when some guys come in.
You be like, oh oh I ain't messing with that guy uh he said this about me it never happened and I never saw it and and I tell people all the time if I don't like you it's some guys I've played with and I won championship with at the end of the game I ain't hugging your ass when we win a championship I avoid you because I'm not give you any fake love. Why is it that every time we won a championship that those two guys were the first to hug? I don't understand it, but it is what it is.
And maybe I was blind to it. I can only speak for myself, but I never saw any beef.
I never saw it in a locker room. I never saw it on a practice court, never saw it on a bus, never saw it on a plane.
So I can't even, you know, I know y'all probably said, he just don't want to give us the juicy stuff, but I put that on everything. I never saw it.
No, I mean, it's fair that the media, you're basically saying the media overblows stuff. No way.
They do that. We do that all the time.
We always do that. It's way worse now than it ever was.
I mean, imagine if it was today. We pick apart every guy's, every move, whether it be social media or on the court, and, like, every mood and look.
I mean, I want to bring it up, but, like, you throwing a towel at Danny Ainge, could you imagine? That would lead every show on ESPN, you know what I mean? Because that type of stuff gets picked apart. People will be like, Robert Ori, bad teammate, bad guy.
Like that's – and I've heard you tell the story, but that was a bad place in time for you in Phoenix, right? You know, the thing about it is people don't understand. I never liked Danny Ainge because Mario Elliott is one of my best friends.
and for you to point blank range and throw the ball and hit Mario in the face with it, just because you're getting your ass kicked is just, that's just really unsportsmanlike. And, and for him, and when we first got there, I remember it was just him, myself and Sam were walking down the hallway And he says, yeah, I did that shit on purpose.

And me and Sam looking at him like, dude,

are you really just going to tell us that?

You know, you realize Mario.

And at that moment, I never liked him.

And I didn't respect him then.

And then Cotton, God rest his soul, he was a coach.

And then he quit on us.

And then, you know, Danny took over.

I'm like, me and Danny had already had beef because it's,

I'm going to tell this story. We're in Chicago, and we're trying to run the triangle like Chicago.
I think we get beat by 30 points. It's like 130 to 100 or something.
And so we have practice in Chicago the next day, and we're talking about this. He's like, oh, our offense needs to do this.
Our offense needs to do that. And I was like, yo, excuse me.
We're always talking about offense. Our defense sucked.
We need to work. And then Danny Ains had the audacity to say I was the worst defender on the Phoenix Suns.
We're talking about Kevin Johnson. We're talking about Wesley Person.
We're talking about Danny Manning. And I'm not going to talk ill about Wayman Tisdale, but he was on the team.
Think about it. This was a team of non-defendants.
You talking about me who had a hundred steals, a hundred blocks, a hundred threes, the first guy to do that. And you tell me I'm the worst defender on the team.
So I go off on him. Right.
I just tell him all. I said, dude, are you serious right now? And I pointed at Wesley's purse.
I said, you say I'm the worst defender?

This dude can't guard a damn snail.

And so two days later, he becomes the coach.

And I'm starting at this time.

He benches me.

And on top of that, it's my first time back in Houston.

Yeah.

And I didn't get to start.

You know how guys are.

We don't want to see this.

But you want to feel that love from the fans. Right.
So he benches me in Houston. Yeah.
And I didn't get to start. You know how guys are.
We don't want to say, but you want to feel that love from the, from the, from the fans. Right.
So he benches me in Houston. And after that, it was downhill from there.
And, and, and, and it was just a bad moment. So, and as soon as he became the head coach, I should have just, you know, you know, at that time guys didn't use it unless she was a top tier guy, you don't go ask for a trade.
You kind of just deal with it. I should have just went with myself and went to the organization.
Yo, I can't play for this man. I want out.
You know, I don't like him. He don't like me.
They made me out of this situation. But I'm glad I did what I did because it sent me to the Lakers.
Yeah, yeah. Do you wish that you had thrown something heavier at him? No, because then I might have been caught up on charges.
And I did it in Boston where he's loved by the masses there, so no. Maybe soup.
Maybe you throw soup at him next time. Cedric Sabalas was on a jet ski or something and missed like a – you have to admit there are moments in your career I'm sure you've seen – like looked at it and been like, all right, I won seven rings.
I also had some pretty good things go my way in terms of luck like Cedric Sabalas being on a jet ski screwing up his contract in the Lakers and then you get traded. He went to go party in Lake Havasu.
Yeah that's right. That's the truth to have a fight about Lake Havasu and I'm like thank you think about it you know Sean Elliott I love, felt his physical.
Then this happened. And then, you know.
Tim Donaghy refs your series against the Kings. And then you hit check Steve Nash.
Yes. You know, I am a master planner.
I plan all of this. I plan it all.
Yes. I mean, you're in the right place at the right time all the time.
Are you just a lucky guy in general? You know, God has blessed me with a lot of talent and a lot of smarts and a lot of luck. And I think about it.
I never lost in high school. I won a lot in college.
Well, I don't want to say I never lost. I won a lot in high school.
I never was a loser. And when I got to Phoenix and we started a season of 0-13, I didn't know how to handle that because I don't lose.
You know, even when I – I guarantee you, we play cards with dominoes right now, I'm going to kick your ass because I don't lose. It's just – I just have – I just have that rabbit's foot built in.
And so it was hard in that situation, and it's hard sometimes to not sit back and think that – I also think about since, you know, God blessed me with a lot of talents, and he did put some obstacles in my way, you know, referring to my daughter and her passing, that, you know, as lucky as I was on the court, I wasn't so lucky off the court. So I think things happen for a reason, and you just have to, you know, step up to the plate and grab and seize the moment.
I'm also a big believer in making your own luck. If it happens, if you get lucky on the court one time, that can be explained away by luck sometimes.
But if it happens repeatedly, it's a lot of little things that you've done over the course of, you know, a really long period of time that all add up to make those, you know, those small percentages turn into bigger percentages when you see them on the biggest stage. I think that's what we see with you.
I did see, I just looked up... I just love the quote, by the way, of I'm not a loser.
I'm not a loser. And being like, yeah, you're not a loser.
Yeah, correct. You can confidently say, I am not a loser.
We're going to have our sports busy guy fact-check that you're not a loser. Because a lot of people could be like, I'm not a loser.
But like, yeah, you are, dude. You can say I'm not a loser.
Seven-time NBA champion. NBA all-rook team.
Okay, not a loser. I have some pencils that were made for me because I had a quote.
And I said, winners don't take no shit. Yep.
And because I was talking about, you know, moments in basketball where, you know where winners don't take no shit.

And so all of a sudden I get a package,

and there's a bunch of pencils that say winners don't take no shit.

And so my son tried to take one to school.

I'm like, are you crazy?

He was only like seven years old at the time.

So you have to be in the right moment,

and winners don't take no shit.

Yeah.

I think Sean Connery said that in The Rock, too, Nick Cage. I'm pretty sure that pretty sure that was a line the dialogue there um yeah well it's awesome to talk to you man uh i i think that's about it for me no i had a couple more questions real quick so who who did you uh give more shit to tylu when he got stepped over or tim duncan when he uh showed up to the arena every day dressed like Tim Duncan? You know, Ty Lue, he was just on my podcast, and we talked about that, and how everybody thought he got crossed over.
I'm like, he says he don't care because that step over made him famous, so I laughed about that. But you got to think about Tim Duncan.
This is a dude at one time was top three moneymakers in the NBA.

Yep.

And he dressed like he was straight out of the trailer park.

I'm like, come on, Tim.

I would mess with him all the time.

I said, dude, bag of jeans.

I said, come on now.

I said, you can spend your money on clothes.

You don't have to spend it on video games and cars.

You can buy a suit.

Think about this dude.

I don't even think this dude owns a suit, man.

And we always talk about people who have every dime they ever made in nba this dude probably has every dime because he damn sure didn't spend it on clothes he didn't spend it on jewelry he didn't spend it on he might spend it on cars but other than that the head dude there's been no money especially on clothes he probably have a closet probably about big as a shoe box with three outfits in it. Yeah, I feel like it's all the same shirt.
It's all Kohl's or Sam's Club. Yeah, the black and white striped shirt from Caldor that he got for 15% off.
I guarantee that's why he stopped coaching because that one black jacket that he had probably fell apart. I did like his jeans, though.
He was a legend of the flat front. He ironed his big jeans, too.
They weren't even properly baggy. They were just straight down the front.
Yes. I wear a baggy zip, snap, and drop.
Yeah. I did want to ask you, actually, that Big Cat brought it up, about that Spurs team because they were a fascinating team at the time.
They brought you on. They had Tim Duncan.
I think it was Ginobili's second year. Tony Parker was getting into the mix then.
It was like one of the first international teams. What was that like? Do you think that there was actually like a benefit to having a bunch of players that might not have spoke English as their first language, only being able to communicate the important stuff with each other and not communicating like all the rest of the bullshit? Well, trust me, those guys spoke really good English.

And I think for us, it allowed pop to just have plays.

You know, he was just hand signals.

And the bad thing about that, he would do a hand signal.

And if you're taking the ball out, your back is to him sometimes.

So you miss it.

And I remember one play, we're in the heat of the moment.

And Manu's bringing the ball up.

I'm like, what's the call?

And he starts speaking Spanish.

I looked at him like,

Thank you. time so you miss it and I remember one play we're in the heat of the moment and Manu's bringing the ball up like what's the call and he starts speaking Spanish I looked I'm like yo what's the call I do I don't speak Spanish so you have those moments where those guys be back to their first language but Manu a phenomenal player excellent player you know Tony was one of those players who took him a while to understand his, his speed, you know, your speed is going to be who you are and, and relish it because he tried to do things that he wasn't good at.
I'm like, no, you score more paints, no more points in the paint than anybody in NBA for like four years. You know, even Shaq and, you know, Garnett and all these guys, Tony would get in the paint and shoot his teardrop.
So I said, do what you do best. And because, you know, everybody started trying to shoot threes.
I'm like, dude, that ain't you. You got Ginobili for that.
You got Turkley for that. You got me for that.
Do what you do. Get to the middle of the paint, shoot your teardrop.
You don't kick it out. And those guys were just phenomenal players.
And I think what made them good is because they started at such a young age playing against professionals. I think that's the thing that's probably going to help a lot of these guys in the G League, that now they're going straight to being professionals at such a young age.
But the only thing that differs in the foreign players, they go to school for that. You go to school for three, four hours, and then they go to basketball for 10 hours.
And so they learn the game against men. They're perfecting the game.
And that's why you see so many international players, when they come into the NBA, they're ready. Because they've been playing against grown men since they was 12.
Yeah, it's a good point. It's a very good point.
And it's also changed a lot, I think, that the international guys, like it used to be they were all soft or that was the tag. And it's changed a lot.
I think that, like you said, a lot of guys, you know, look at Luka. Luka was playing at the highest level in Europe, and then he comes over ready to go.
Let's be real here. If these guys would have came in during my era, they'd still soft.
Yeah, because different. There was a different era where guys were, you know, you wasn't running over to the monitor because some guys said I got hit and hit.
Oh, we got to see if this is a flagrant one or flagrant two. You know, you get hit upside head.
It's just about playing basketball. You know, some things are done maliciously and some things aren't.
And I hate every time something happens, they run over to that monitor to check it out it's basketball guys expect not to get hit now and it's so it's it makes me so mad now when you see these guys they always like i got hit in the head look at the video i'm like dude it's basketball you're gonna get hit right you know i cover the lakers i watch montrez montrez he doesn't he never complains he gets hit in the head twice a game and he just plays so he's the type of guy that'll be able to play in that league but these other guys every time they get hit they want to flavor i'm like really dude stop it just play basketball and enjoy the moment yeah and sometimes guys do do it to a detriment where they're looking for contact they don't finish a play it's like they're looking for the foul before like get the and one you can finish the you know play through contact and then hope you get a foul call it's so weird because now i watch basketball you know how these guys lunge into players that jump now yep that was all charges for when we played because it wasn't your natural shooting motion yeah and it's in it and we talk about the high scoring in nba i want to see if they stop calling that call, what would the scores be? Because now we want the game to be moving. This slows the game down because every time a guy jumps, you jump into him, you get the call.
I'm like, come on, Al, let's talk. Let's take that out of the game because, to me, I like the way the game is played now, but I don't like that part where you can jump in there and a guy lunges into you and you get the call.
It would never change, though. Isn't Chris Paul like the head of the players' union? I mean, that's like his favorite move.
He would never let it happen. That's the rules committed.
He has nothing to do with that. It's true.
Just like back in the day when the NBA had this crazy idea to change the basketball because people were like, oh, you can't use leather and all this kind of stuff. Oh, I remember that.
You had this terrible basketball. Yes.
All you had to do was spin it really hard. It would stick to the backboard and drop in.
So I'm like, really? Come on, man. We can't do this.
Yeah, unders. I bet unders that year because everything sucked.
You guys did it for like what? It wasn't even a full – A couple months. It was like 30 or 40 games.
And you're like, this is crazy. This basketball – it was so sticky.
You could see how sticky it was. You can knock on somebody in a minute because you can grip it as easy as possible.
You can grip with your right hand. They need to have – like Adam Silver's done a great job, I think, in most facets moving the game forward.
But they need a guy like Robert Ori on the rules committee like an old school guy the last of the hard to be like we can't we can't let this get too out of hand let's keep some of the toughness in basketball is there a guy out there that you watch and you're like that's a guy that like a baby a baby Bob that you see out there you're like that dude reminds me of me when I got into the league well you know it's weird because I look at Kuzma um same height you know he he can he's a little bit more athletic than I was I I think I jumped higher than him but he as far as handling the rock I was the type of person like dude handling the rock taking too much energy out of me I don't want to do I just want to, shoot, drive, do this, two or three dribbles, dunk on somebody. So I look at Kuz and where he plays, and that's the only person that's out there that I really, you know, look at and think that reminds me of me because everybody else is, you know, they're just three-point shooters.
They're not dunkers, and Kuz will dunk on you. Yeah.
All right. My last question.
So you played I mean, you're they're just three-point shooters they're not dunkers and who's a dunk on you yeah all right my last question so you played I mean you're you're basically a walking history book for the NBA you played in so many key uh series so many great championship teams you played with I mean off the top of my head Kobe Shaq Tim Duncan and Hakeem are probably four out of the top 25 guys in NBA history. Who is the most unstoppable guy you played with? Played with? Yeah.
Unstoppable Shaq by far. Okay, I was hoping you were going to say Hakeem just because I loved the Dream Shake.
I loved watching him do that. If I'm going to pick somebody on my team, I'm taking Dream.
You are? Okay. Yeah.
say unstoppable, when Shaq got in shape, think about it. The year he won MVP, he was unstoppable.
It wasn't like today where you might have four centers in the league. He had a bunch of centers.
They weren't just skinny centers like they are. They were guys with some girths.
you think about Vladi. You think about Oster tag.
Yeah, all those guys. Those guys were there with bodies to try to – and he just, you know, dominated him.
I think some of the time he used to dunk on Dikembe. I'm like, ooh, you know.
And I was like, the 2000 – 1909-2000 Shaq was probably the most dominant player ever in the NBA because he was in shape, he had no injuries, and he was scared of Phil, and so he wanted to win a championship. It is crazy to think about, like, when you go through some of his game logs, when he had those stretches where he'd be like 40 and 20 every night in the playoffs, too.
Wait, what do you mean he was scared what was why how was he scared of you know you know when you get a new coach you try to impress him so you come in in shape so i mean he was all of us it was weird that's the first time i've seen a team where everybody was in shape when they came into the season you know sometimes you'd be right down the borderline or two or three more days you're in shape but. But you look across the board, Kobe had put on 15 pounds, all muscles.
Shaq was in shape. I was in shape.
I had put on 10 pounds of muscle. Everybody was just in shape and ready for that season.
Shaq was usually a big, I'm going to play my way into shape over the course of the first couple months. What do you think the heaviest Shaq was when you played with him? I think it had to be my last season when he missed the beginning of the season because uh with his toe problem he had surgery on his toe right before the beginning of the season and he was out like two months and and so Shaq I think he put on about 15 to 20 pounds and I think for me I look at his body from that moment on it was never it was never the same because I don't think he was able to get to that elite status again because of injuries and things of that nature so that toe messed him up from being you know a dominant force for six seven more years I'm looking at it right now it's so stupid to look at in that finals in that finals against the Pacers.
43-19, 40-24, 33-13, 36-21, like every night. This actually just reminded me, though, of one last question.
One of the funniest random things that I just remember from watching the NBA as a kid, Ruben Patterson claiming that he was the Kobe stopper. That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
I remember, I can, I can actually visualize it. NBA on NBC.
They're coming in. Ruben Patterson's got his, his feet in an ice bucket and everyone in the Portland Trailblazers locker rooms, like Kobe stopper,

Kobe stopper.

Do you,

were you guys like,

are you,

is this guy fucking for real?

You know,

the crazy part about that is Ruben,

you used to play for us.

You used to try to guard Kobe in practice.

You couldn't guard him in practice.

And when he wasn't going hard,

you think you may be able to guard him in the game.

Are you serious right now?

You know,

Ruben had a big ego.

When Ruben came in as a rookie, he thought he should have been started. He didn't, you know, rookies always supposed to do stuff like bring your donuts or bring you coffee or bring your paper.
You know, I know people are like, what's the paper, but he's supposed to do these things. So, you know, Ruben had that ego and that attitude.
Like, yo, I'm from Cincinnati. I'm this bad guy.
I can do this. So he never did what he was supposed to do with a rookie so one night in Sacramento

we said okay we gonna show you

what rookies how rookies get treated

we got a bunch of electric

a bunch of athletic tape taped

him up put him on

a luggage

cart put him on the elevator

and hit all the buttons and so we just

left him there

I'm happy I asked about that

yeah so that is the Ruben's stopper

Thank you. And I think the funniest part, I felt bad.
This little old lady, you know, she was about to get on the elevator, and she saw him like this, all like tied up. And she's like, ooh, it scared her.
We're like, we sorry, man. It's a joke, you know.
And she got all scared's a joke you know yeah you know that's one night in sacramento yeah that guy and that guy called himself the kobe stopper i just yeah he had a lot he had a lot of uh confidence to call himself the kobe stopper i imagine that pissed kobe off uh all right well robert this has been awesome man we really appreciate really appreciate it. Everyone go listen to Robert's podcast, Big Shot Bob Pod.

Anytime, we'd love to have you back on, man.

I'm sure we just scratched the surface with stories.

It was a pleasure, man. I think y'all put in my podcast.

The good thing is I got Mark Cuban on tomorrow, so he's always a blast.

Yes, friend of ours.

Yeah.

Yeah, we've had him on a bunch of times.

Everyone knows how good he is. He's going to run for president.

Yes.

I asked him about that, so you're listening.

Mark loves saying that he's not going to run for president.

There's nothing that Mark loves more than being asked to run for president.

Yes.

When you have that much money, you can run for whatever you want to run for.

Yes.

Well, thank you so much, Robert. Really appreciate it, man.
Take care, man. It's a pleasure.
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Valentine's Day was Sunday. President's Day was yesterday.
Lunar New Year. We talked about that a lot.
Now we're just naming holidays. My old neighbor's birthday was on President's Day.
Fuck yeah. Shout out.
Shout out Billy Tibbetts. No.
I don't know when his birthday is Actually, I'm happy he's not my neighbor. He doesn't even know where I lived.
Every time I tell my boyfriend that I love him, he just squints into the distance like George Costanza. Do you think this is the end of our relationship? It's not good.
He might be deaf. Say it into the other ear.
Yeah, what? I think that was a Seinfeld episode too. Yeah, right.
It's never said I love you back Then yeah I think it's probably a good sign

That you aren't meant to be

That's so weird to

How do you not reflexively just be like

I love you back

Yeah you just gotta lie

I love you so much that's why I came so fast

I want to spend more time

With my boyfriend but he always gets mad

When I ask him about rules

He always gets mad when I ask him rules about sports

We'll be right back. so much.
That's why I came so fast. I want to spend more time with my boyfriend, but he always gets mad when I ask him about rules.
He always gets mad when I ask him rules about sports. Should I just cheat on him? Okay.
Do not pass go. Go directly.
Like, what? There's no middle ground in this. He gets mad when you ask him rules about sports.
So suck his friend's dicks. Yeah, I actually don't see another way out of that.
Now that I'm saying it, like, you should, okay, if we're going to be totally fair here, you should at least tell him, like, hey, next time I ask about offsides, try not to be a condescending asshole about it. Otherwise, I'm sucking Billy's dick.
I think that's totally fair. If you give him a heads up, he can't be mad about it.
Guys operate on actions and consequences. Also, maybe send Hank your boyfriend's name and address so we can become friends with him.
Okay. Sup, boys.
I'm a flight attendant and after being off most of 2020, I'm going back to work. I had to do training this weekend in Dallas.
My boyfriend says that he wants to come with so he can golf. It's been nonstop snowing here.
He can fly for free because I listed him on my plan. I'm worried because he said there's a strip club in Dallas that was his absolute favorite.
Jaguars. If I bring him, should I be concerned that he's just going to be in a strip club for two days? I've actually been there too.
Let me tell you, they have the best breakfast buffet in the world. When people say I go to a strip club for a breakfast buffet, I've been to Jaguars four or five times strictly because their waffles and eggs are that good.
Alright, this is the line I didn't say. I'm worried because he said there's a strip club in Dallas that it was his absolute favorite.
He loves strip clubs because of the buffets that are such a deal. I actually was at...
Oh, no, I didn't mind. Just kidding.
What were you going to say? You were going to get yourself in trouble. There's the one in Jacksonville.
Well, I'm Dixit Toro. We were in a lot of places and went to a lot of strip clubs.
We've been to strip clubs in Dallas. Yeah, but this kid that we were with was trying to film him.
The stripper took his phone and threw it across the room. It was a funny scene.
But that was in Jacksonville, not Dallas. I still laughed.
Just to clarify, Hank. Even though it didn't mean anything.
Well, I was trying to remember where it was. It was in Dallas.
It's super relatable. To clarify, that wasn't like two years ago when we went to Jacksonville, right? No, this was 2016.
Way back. I think every guy should get one...
Actually, 2015. I think every guy should get one favorite strip club in the country.
Just be like, this is my number one. If I ever find myself here, I got to go.
Mine's in West Virginia, the place we went after I won my fight. Southern Charm.
Yeah. Southern X.
Southern X. Mine's probably Cruz and Chubbies.
Okay. In Wisconsin Dells.
I'm going to go with two minis in Waco, Texas. Or the landing strip.
Yeah. In Gary and Gary.
No. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Austin one.
No, that's not it. The one from Varsity Blues.
Is it a franchise? That's the actual one in Varsity Blues that they land next to. Only noobs would say Spearmint Rhino.
Why doesn't water go up my vajayjay when I take a bath? I don't know. I don't know.
It should. Buoyancy.
Suction. Because anyone flows.
Your pussy lips are too small. Your pussy's a vacuum.
Too tight. Yeah.
I actually don't know how you... I would assume a woman would just drink all the bath water with her pussy.
I think it's a straw. That's science, right? Osmosis.
If you just took in a deep breath with your pussy lips, it should suck up some water, right? If you reverse queef. What do you mean? Yeah, it's a queef.
If you queef. Queef is a burp.
That's a fart. No, it's a burp.
That's a vagina fart.

It's a vagina burp.

What if you go in the water?

What if you're in a bathtub and you fart?

How come water doesn't go up your butthole?

I think it does.

Does it?

I think water goes in your pee hole.

Just not a lot because it's a pee hole.

Yeah, it's like a straw. And you never know because you pee it out eventually.

Right, exactly.

You just, yeah, reverse it.

What's up?

It's like playing Uno with bath water.

Every time a chick goes in the water, they fuck. Yes.
You're fucking Poseidon fucking Poseidon. That's why you can't get pregnant in a hot tub.
True. What's up, pussies? My boyfriend got me a car for Valentine's Day.
I got him nothing. What should I get him as a great late gift? Wait, a car? A car.
This is an all-time makeup scenario that you're in right now. I thought we weren't getting each other anything big.
Yeah. Also, if this is true, which I don't think it is true, but if it is true, she is allowed to call us pussies.
Is she alpha? A car? She got a truck for Valentine's Day. Not even from her husband, from her boyfriend.
She's like roadhead. Yeah.
Honestly, you can get a girl anything for any occasion whatsoever, and she's like, I got you a blowjob, and the guy's going to be like, sweet. Free back scratch.
That's exactly what my best case scenario was. Hey, hello, big cat slash short king.
Hope all is well. I'm in a long-distance relationship in college and would like to play a prank on my boyf.
I could think of no two better individuals to hear ideas for this from. Looking forward to boyf and used a little smiley face.
With a Y? B-O-Y-F. Yeah.
She wants to know how to prank her long-distance boyfriend. Boyf.
Boyf. Sorry.
I mean, a great prank is always if you have an identical twin, have that person cheat on the guy and let him see and then be like, psych, that's my twin. Tell your boyfriend that you're pregnant.
That's a good prank, too. But wait for nine months since you've seen him.
Tell him you're pregnant, have him fly to you, and then have the sign at the airport be like, just kidding. I you so much yeah propose to him yeah just kidding i'm not pregnant but will you marry me and then that's a prank too and then give him a blowjob and he'll be like okay that was a good prank yeah then he'll probably get you a car he'd actually be like yeah that's the best prank that anyone's ever gotten me with ever all right last one uh i've been dating my boyfriend for about a year and I've been starting to notice something strange.
Every time we have sex and he's about to cum, his voice gets super high-pitched, and he starts talking super fast. The best thing I can compare it to is Jar Jar Binks.
Do I say something or just let it go? Billy, give us a reenactment so we can get in the mindset here. Come on.
Give us a reenactment. High voice, really fast, Jar Jar Binks.
I'm never saw him. Oh, I'm about to come.
Oh, me's about to ejaculate. Oh, baby, I'm about to come.
Me's just a horny. I'm honestly, I don't even know, I don't care about this question.
I'm just still thinking about the pussy drinking bath water. It's international waters.
Whatever happens on either side, five seconds either way of an orgasm does not count towards a permanent record. You should just know.
But honestly, just accidentally do a voice record on your phone and then play it back. And he'll be like, wait, that's what I said.
Because everyone hates the sound of their own voice, period. Everyone really hates the sound of their cum voice.
So get him that way. What if you just played the copycat game in bed? So you just repeated back to him everything that he said.
That would probably annoy him enough where he wouldn't do that anymore. Billy, do you have a...
I'm going to Google it. He may be a candidate for an exorcism.
Could be that. Can a vagina drink bathwater? Vagina drink bathwater.
Here we go, boys. Oh, I don't want this.
No. 13 daily ways you're damaging your vagina.
Yeah. Are yeast infections contagious? What happens if you suck in water through your vagina? Okay, this one I'm going to ask.
I'm going to hit this one. This sounds like a Gwyneth Paltrow website.
That is not really feasibly anatomically. Well, that's this guy? No.
So it's not really a hole. Yeah, what the hell? If it was a hole, then water would be able to fill it.
Yeah, what? This is... It will probably just leak out like period blood.
I'm on ask. That was written by a dude.
Although I can't imagine doing it regularly as healthy and I have no idea how you would do that. Okay.
Like what if you water pie yourself? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Alright.
What are the numbers? Eight. Six.
Fifteen. Ninety-nine.
Eighty-three. Zebras run towards grass fires because they can't outrun them.
68. Bring back 69 you fucking asshole Billy Wait Billy did you say that Zebras run towards the sound of emergency No zebras run towards Grass fires because they know they can Run through them and get to the other side That's burnt out because they can't outrun The fire Why wouldn't they be able The fire's coming Why wouldn't they be able to outrun the fire? Because it's fast? Fire's faster than a horse? Dude.
What? Look it up. There's actually...
No chance of watching a nature film. It's faster.
Man versus beast. Let's see.
A fire's faster than a horse? Grass fire. Zebra horse? Let's see.
Is fire faster than a horse? A zebra's a horse? Isn't there like a Disney movie about it? Donkey movie about a zebra winning like the video jumping into the fire and over so you saw it once doesn't mean they all do it and maybe they were just pyros just like the marines commercial maybe they just fucking their love fire when other animals run away what was that yeah yeah was the... What are you googling over there? It is pretty badass.
I have headphones on. I dispute your fact and you don't have anything to back it up.
Besides, you saw a video. He's not talking in the mic and Hank's going to kill him.
A zebra can run as fast as 40 miles per hour. And how fast can fire burn? You can't because it burns the whole savannah.
So they're like, oh, jump to the burnt side that isn't on fire so we don't have to just run away from this fire the whole time. Isn't it still hot where the fire just burned, though? Yeah, but if you jump through, it's like putting your hand through a candle.
But on the other side, where you land is probably still hot. But the savannah is pretty big big in order to become a fully grown anywhere in any direction

except the fire

so zebras are stupid

zebras are morons

slash pyros