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Post-mostly football. Post-mostly football and J.J.
Watt is officially a free agent. Henry Lockwood has made that possible after slandering him on Friday's show.
But J.J. Watt is a free agent.
Heartfelt speech to the fans that I loved. I thought that was really nice and really genuine.
Yeah. And that's the big news.
Yeah. And I thought he did it in a very classy way.
Extremely classy. Thank the fans first and foremost.
Thank the franchise for putting him in that position. That's something that you wouldn't expect a guy like Russell Wilson to do.
JJ meant every word that he said. I think that there's probably at least like three or four hundred thousand dollars that he has earmarked right now to take out full page thank you ads to the entire city of Houston.
He's probably gonna be buying billboards all over Texas, thanking them for his time there. JJ gets it.
This this is a guy who gets it right hank yeah i mean that it was a nice video i think it's something on par with exactly what russell wilson would do so you know my point was proven so i i would contend that jj watt being a free agent he has the most ties to the most teams strong ties to the most teams that a free agent has ever had so the uh free agency looks like this everyone says he's going to go to the packers because obviously he's from wisconsin no no no no wait hold on i'm gonna go through all of them okay he grew up in wisconsin he's a packer fan grew up a packer fan uh his wife plays for the chicago red stars so uh there's some links to Chicago. He actually Instagram story to Lou Malnati's pizza the other night.
So he's in Chicago right now, probably talking to Ryan pace. If I had to guess, Ryan pace is going to offer him somewhere between 150 and $200 million.
And then the completion of the Watt trilogy in Pittsburgh,

the cap-strapped Pittsburgh Steelers to add J.J. Watt to the T.J.
Watt and the Derek Watt trio in Pittsburgh.

And then I'll just throw in the Bucs because now that the Bucs have won a Super Bowl

with Tom Brady, I think that that becomes the new New England Patriots where whenever there was a free agent, it was like, oh, he's going to go here. I think the Bucs are now here because, like, oh, he's going to go there to win a ring.
Yeah, if you're ring chasing, that's a new destination. I think, I mean, the list for me starts and ends with Pittsburgh Steelers just because I know J.J.
Watt, and he's going to want to go play with his brothers and have them rub that in our faces. Like, the Steelers are going to get every single primetime game.
They're going to play 16 primetime games next year if they have three Watt brothers, and we're going to get sick of it. But that's, like, that is the quintessential J.J.
Watt destination. Like, let's go finish out my career with my two brothers and have my parents come to every single game wearing like triple jerseys.

We might see the first ever triple jersey that represents all the kids there.

I could also see the Tennessee Titans.

I could see him going there.

They swung and missed on Jadavion Clowney last year.

But you know that he loves Vrabel,

and you know that he would go to the Titans just so he could stick it to Jack Easterby twice a year.

And you know that Vrabes would let J.J. catch at least like three touchdown passes next year, which is something that he'd really like to do.
Nope. Too much respect for the Texans fan base.
You know that he's got too much respect for the Texans. Because the Colts are also one of those.
See, the Colts, I feel like, the Colts are officially the team that everyone is pointing to. Like they are one quarterback and one impact player on defense.
And maybe one awesome wide receiver away from a Superbowl, which I love whenever that team arises, because it's like, well, so. That's pretty, they're kind of, yeah, they're kind of far away.
You just named the three most important positions. And they need like a slightly better head coach.
Yeah. So I think that he would go to the Titans because he does love Vrabes.
Vrabes, you know what? He can always make the case like me and Vrabes. It's like Houston light, you know, like Vrabes moved up there after he was a Texan.
He's a Texan for life. I'm a Texan for life.
This is just where Texans go when you put us off the stud. And I was talking to Brian Mitchell, the old Washington football team guy, on Friday.
And he was like, I would absolutely go within the division. I was like, yeah, no shit, Brian.
You did it to go to the Eagles. And then you got mad at the Eagles, so then you went to the Giants.
You did it twice. So, of course, you'd think that J.J.
would do something like that. But I think it's like the Steelers.
Yeah, you have to say theers because um not only like the wisconsin ties but you know that jj sees every preseason jj sees the players doing the bike thing yeah they ride bikes with the kids jj's going to buy every single bike in green bay and just give every every child that goes to every elementary school a bike and have a big jj watt bikes for tykes day and you and you do have to say the Bears because of his wife and also Ryan Pace will undoubtedly pay the most. Yeah.
Like the market will be wherever the market is, and it probably won't be like – I would imagine he gets an incentive-laden deal, and he's – I mean, J.J. would admit himself.
He's not obviously in his prime anymore. His prime was something that was one of the greatest primes that a defensive player has ever's never going to be that jj watt anymore so that's the perfect time for ryan pace to be like yo i'm going to give you 50 million dollars just so i can tell people that we have khalil mac and jj watt on the same line and uh that will sell some more tickets i mean what you said about the colts was pretty true about the bears, too.
They're like a quarterback, a wide receiver, and an impact defensive player. A new front office.
A new front office. Yeah, I think that, yeah, you should probably include the Bears in this whole thing.
Although, we have to refer to his wife, Kayla Watt. We have to refer to JJ as Kayla Watt's husband if he goes to Chicago.
Correct. Just make sure to do that.
Correct all right other news uh urban meyer's uh hiring of chris doyle turns out the nfl is a little different than college football who would have thought urban meyer got slapped on the hand uh and of course the the framing of it was chris doyle gave his resignation uh after realizing it was a distraction no you all re urban meyer Meyer realized that maybe I can't call every shot and do whatever the fuck I want in the NFL. This is maybe a little different than college football.
So good start for Urban Meyer. And by that, obviously, I mean the worst start possible.
But he did, he did get to stand. Did you see Trevor Lawrence's pro day? So Trevor Lawrence was throwing missiles.
He has 10 inch hands. And then Urban Meyer stood essentially like he basically was teabagging the pseudo center who was snapping him balls, asserting his dominance amongst the NFL scouts because there was no one else on the field besides Clemson players and staff and then urban meyer standing front and center being like this is my guy why would you even go to that workout if you weren't urban meyer what's the point of sending a scout there like you know it's like the most obvious thing ever if you if if urban meyer does not draft trevor lawrence then someone's going to trade up to number two and then they'll take him there like what's the point point in sending anybody out there? He's obviously going to take him.
Yeah. Urban had quite a weekend.
The only, I'm kind of upset that we haven't gotten an apology for the apology yet from Urban. He's the best at that bar none.
There's nobody better in the history of college football or the NFL. No, the apology for the apology, that's urban territory.
Like in the apology that the Jaguars put out actually did leave a little bit to be desired. It was just like it said we didn't vet him enough, but their statement when they hired him was we thoroughly vetted him and were confident that this is the right guy to have for the job.
He's been there for 20 years. Yeah.
So now I'm in the position where I'm just sitting around waiting for Urban's apology to the apology. And you have to question if he's still got it.
It's taken him 48 hours, and I still haven't gotten notes out from him yet. So let's get to work on that, Urban.
Make it a little bit better. But, yeah, he was asserting his dominance at Pro Day.
He was like, this is mine. This belongs to me right now.
He might as well have had Trevor Lawrence on a leash. But some of the passes that Trevor was making was like, I'm back in love with Trevor Lawrence.
I fall in and out of love with college players like very, very quickly, depending on what I just saw from them most recently. Like in Trevor Lawrence's last game, they played against Ohio state.
I was like, Oh, he looks like crap. Maybe he's a bust.
I was going to call him a bust before he ever got drafted. And then he threw that like 60 yard pass on a dime.
And I was like, yep, the truth. See, I think he was actually not even that bad.
The game against LSU was bad. But the game against Ohio State, like, his offensive line didn't give him any time.
I actually thought he looked okay in that game. I've always – I mean, it's not crazy to say, like, Trevor Lawrence is going to be very good.
Yes. It's not a hot take.
But I've never fallen out of love with Trevor Lawrence. Also, his brother, if you've never seen his brother, his brother is maybe the coolest guy ever.
He's just Trevor Lawrence if Trevor Lawrence decided he was going to be in the Lumineers. So it's a very cool family overall.
He's a very cool hat guy. I'm talking like flat brim.
He's like a Charlie Whitehurst. Yes.
If Charlie Whitehurst had decided to not pursue an NFL career, that's exactly what he would look like. And I actually, over the weekend, I started watching Yellowstone Big Cat.
I don't know if you've watched it yet. Really good show, but there are hats everywhere.
And I bought my cowboy hat. hat home don't i thought i we need a cowboy hat guy in the office hank's saying yes oh my god like i don't know i put it on i watched two episodes guy by the way yeah but but he's not a cowboy hat guy i was getting old too yeah oh yeah yeah pft is a lot younger wore, I wore it for two episodes of yellow.
So I just put a cowboy hat on and watched Yellowstone and I felt good. And I was like, this is dangerous PFT.
You're getting, you're getting dangerously close to start walking around with a belt buckle and calling yourself big country again. I don't know.
I might have to be talked out of it. Yeah.
I don't think. Don't.
Whatever. Fine.
Do whatever you want. I just think that there's the weird hat guy is definitely it's a hard thing to pull off and i don't know i don't think any of us have that it's not weird it's big hat no i i get that but i'm saying there's certain types of people like charlie whitehurst he can wear a cool hat yeah pft not charlie whitehurst I don't know.
He's got the hair. You think you're that cool? No, Big Cat, you're mistaking a cool hat for a cowboy hat.
No, no. It's totally different.
A Charlie Whitehurst hat is not a cowboy hat. No, I get that.
Yeah, I'll put it on. I'll put it on.
Hat guys in general, like if you're going to go weird hat, you've got to – I mean, this is – by the way, PFT's got a Brazzers password or Brazzers background, and when he logged in, Billy was like, oh, dude, Brazzers. See? I told you.
Well, we can't see it because you've got your Brazzers background. Here you go.
Cowboy hat guy. That's like a corporate one, though.
You've got to get a you gotta get a yeah i don't know yeah that one doesn't that's the one we got from the from jess lockwood my cousin yeah but i can't i can't wear like an actual worn in cowboy hat because then everyone's like oh all hat no cattle this one i'm saying like i'm admitting to you yeah i don't own a fucking cow what do i look like i i'm a podcaster who wears a cool cowboy hat sometimes i mean give it a try i just you you would agree right like when you try to wear a cowboy hat or a weird hat there's a fine line between like regular look and trying way too hard yeah i don't think i'm trying that hard if i'm wearing a cowboy hat but big cat you also are the one who tells me like if i wear a collared shirt you tell me i'm trying too hard no i say you're i always pigeonholing him big cat yeah he is i am i'm feeling very hold on when you wear a collared shirt i say who died because i thought you're going to a funeral yeah because you don't you usually wear like whatever shirts you get given for free and sweatpants like yeah correct easy no yeah so when you wear when you wear a collared shirt i'm worried that you're going to a funeral and i ask you who died i think that's totally normal i kind of like the cowboy hat look okay i mean do whatever what do you say billy i'm literally wearing cowboy boots right now so i can't and we clown you for those i know but they're very practical if you have a practical thing to back it up like oh they have a farm no you don. No, you don't have a practical thing.
I do. The snow's deep in their high, so the snow doesn't get into my boots, as opposed to Tim's.
One other note about – no, I want – keep it on, PFT. No, I can't.
Because I can't fit the headphones on when I've got the cowboy hat. I'm not – I think you should give it a shot.
I'm just – I'm warning you that there's definitely – you know that fine line. I do know the fine line.
I think I'm being a good friend by saying there is a fine line. I'm going to – if you start wearing a cowboy hat, I'm going to give it a solid two weeks, and I'll give you my natural reaction.
I don't want two weeks. I think that if it takes two weeks to get a reaction, I think we can all make that judgment call within like 24 hours.
All right. That's fine.
But I think that like all – this is a very relatable thing. Like all friend groups have that one guy who's like, hey, I'm going to try this wild new look.
And it's up to everyone else to be like, that doesn't work or it does. Because otherwise, then you end up with hat guy who just walking around thinking he's John Mayer all the time.
Well, okay. So this definitely needs to be like a clear line of delineation here.
I'm not trying to be a cool hat guy. I am not a cool hat guy.
I can't pull off like the felt black brim. I wish John Mayer.
I can't pull off the Jason Mraz. He's a hat guy.
The fedora. I'm not Jason Whitlock.
Yeah. One peacock feather coming out.
It's the coolest look there is. None of us are cool enough to pull off a jason whitlock look maybe jake maybe jake jake could probably do only if he was wearing like suspenders and a tie basic dresser of all time literally hoodie and jeans or hoodie and joggers no so am i we none of us dress well none of us are like sitting here being fucking mr gq russell wilson i do think that if jake was wearing like a white dress shirt, a tie, black pants, suspenders, he could pull off the fedora like the old school press sign.
That's like in the side of it. If he had like a big camera around his neck all the time, Jake could pull that off.
We also, we also have to just say like outright, like we live in such a weird bubble because we're bloggers and podcasters. So so like we don't even know what normal is like anymore you know i don't i don't even own a nice clothes anymore i i don't own anything besides sweatshirts and jeans because i've never i haven't had to wear anything different for a decade so we we're in a weird fucking like bizarro universe where people are looking at us like, you guys all dress like shit.
We know that. We dress like, you know, we dress like 15 year olds pretty much going to whatever middle school.
And you know what? This is a classic case of post mostly football season. I'm trying to find something weird to do because my mind is bored because I haven't been able to sit down and watch nine hours of football today yes i'm now i'm wearing hats that's where i've gone yes um one more note about trevor lawrence so there was some nerve there was some some nervousness we went a little side side veer there uh there was some scuttlebutt about his height so there was some talk that maybe trevor lawrence was too tall so uh jater pulled, pulled this up.
There were 22 QBs that have been drafted since 1990 that are six, six or taller. And here's the, here's some of the names off the list.
These are the best names, the most notable names, Mike Glennon, Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweiler, Justin Herbert's good. He's coming up in a second.
Derek Anderson,

Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. Nick

Foles won a Super Bowl. Jamarcus Russell,

Andrew Walter, Dave Brown,

Jake Lutton, John Navar.

He had a rocket arm. John Skelton,

Jonathan Quinn. Not exactly

like the best. John who?

What?

John Freeman, Jonathan Quinn, Josh Freeman,

John Navar, Nate Sudfeld,

Ryan Mallett, also rocket arm.

Nate Sudfeld. John Skelton?

Thank you. What? Josh Freeman, Jonathan Quinn, Josh Freeman, John Navar, Nate Sudfeld, Ryan Mallett, also rocket arm.
Nate Sudfeld. John Skelton.
Sean Mannion. Yeah, John Skelton.
He started for the Cardinals, right? Yeah, you don't remember him, Hank? John Skelton. I think he was one of the Carson Palmer backups where Palmer would get hurt, and they'd toss him in and be like, who? Yeah, news is Trevor Lawrence actually official height was uh six five and five eights so he doesn't he's not he's not too tall yeah so officially not too tall I guess the argument is if you're six six or taller then you've just got a weird you know that that turns into like weirdly gangly body unless you're thick unless you're a big boy like Ben Roethlisberger who's gotta be is big ben like six five yeah he's five it's it you know what it is i think it's just throwing motion like it's impossible to do a short throwing motion if you're six six actually billy go ahead yeah i know you're chomping at the bit to break this down for us well big ben is six five two forty one that's his listed weight honestly that's like when i tell I'm 230 and they're like, sure, dude.
That's what Big Ben weighed in at, like, his senior year in high school. And he just kept that going.
He's like – he never showed up for weigh-in day. He was like, no, it's in the media guy from last year.
Check it out. I'm going to be honest.
This is a little – Trevor Lawrence kind of gives me Paxton Lynch vibes. Ooh.
A little bit. No, don't say that.
Now, that's the worst thing you could say about anyone. No, but the thing is he kind of does.
He kind of has the same sort of build as Paxton Lynch. And, you know, going – like I've been thinking about this a lot because I'm a Jet fan.
So, like, I've been thinking about Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields way too much.

And, look, your best-case scenario with Trevor Lawrence is

Tom Brady. Your worst-case scenario is

Paxton Lynch.

Okay, so he could either be really

all-time great or just the worst

quarterback ever.

Billy's making a lot of sense, Big Cat. You're laughing

at him, but he's right. You have to

admit that he's right.

That was an anti-take. That was an anti-take.
You didn't say anything. I think he said that he could be out of the league in a year or he could be the greatest of all time.
That's an anti-take. There's no – everything is in between.
I know, but the thing is like Pax – but it's like a little more towards Pax and Lynch because we don't know. Wait, okay.
All right, now we're getting somewhere. So he's more likely...
His throwing motion reminds me a lot of Paxton Lynch's. And that's just because it's crazy to say, but they're around.
Paxton Lynch was a little taller, but you get to the point... By like a third of an inch, yep.
Right, but we get to the point where it's like Paxton, like Paxton Lynch,

I think is a very good comparison just because they kind of like are built the same.

Okay.

They have a better.

Listen, I'm all right.

I'm coming around to this just because Billy, the, the,

the best thing you can do in media is to be different.

Everyone is talking about, about,

about Trevor Lawrence being one, one being like a future can't miss they're saying best product uh prospect since andrew luck all this stuff here on part of my take we have him comped out as paxton lynch right but like of course he could be amazing he could also be good though i think just no no no no no no he couldn't be good he could be the greatest of all time i think no but the thing is he needs a supporting cast okay No, no. He couldn't be good.
He could be the greatest of all time. I think – no, but the thing is he needs a supporting cast to be good.
He needs a supporting cast. Sounds like a lot of quarterbacks.
Yep. Right, right.
But, you know, I don't see him just, like, bringing electricity to an offense, like making plays with his feet, like even when he has no blocking. You know, I just – I'm a little skeptical.
But, hey, if the Jets get him, I'm so down. But I think there's other – They're not going to get him.
Also, Billy, toss this one in here. Say, I could be wrong, though.
I hope I'm wrong. Say that you hope you're wrong.
But I think – if you look at Pax and Lynch's throwing motion and Trevor Lawrence's – He's never looked at them. Also, this is just – this is Billy resorting to squatting on the take that he had six months ago that Justin Fields would be a better fit for the Jets.
Also, Billy, don't forget, Trevor Lawrence hasn't lost enough. That's what I'm saying.
He's always had a supporting cast. You could be a good quarterback on a bad team or a bad quarterback on a really good team.
So that's why you like Justin Fields more, who had no supporting cast. No, I just think Justin Fields could do more by himself.
He could – like Justin Fields, I think – You could make the exact same argument for just – basically, the only – you should take Zach Wilson. Yeah.
Well, I don't think he's a good enough athlete. I'm a Trey Lance guy.
I think we should become a Trey Lance podcast. Billy, actually, can you do us a favor? So I know that you still probably need some time off after putting your body through hell, becoming a weapon.
I want you to take as much time as you need, but I would like you to do a John Gruden quarterback camp type thing where you evaluate every quarterback and give us a strong side, weak side with some film comps and like how they project to the next level. Can you do that? I would actually.
Yes. Yes.
I want that on the part where I take you to look at other variables. That's nothing to do with football.
No, no, no, no, no. Whatever you want.
You do football. We'll do it together.
Cause there's no chance you'll do it on your own. So we'll do it together.
You do the football, and PFD and I will sit in the quarterback room as the guys behind Gruden who are like, hey, what about this? What about that? And we'll feed you some facts. And then you'll come up with a grade, okay? I know.
I can't wait. All right.
Do you think we can get interviews with the actual quarterbacks and just give them to Billy? Yes. Yeah.
We should definitely, if we ever get a chance to hear Trevor Lawrence. This guy's a clown.
Yeah, let's get it. Blow it.
One last question, Billy. You versus Trevor Lawrence in a fight.
He's got a reach on me. I mean, honestly.
He is taller. All right.
Let's do. I do also think that the long hair makes you look a little bit shorter yeah yeah i think i know he's gonna get a haircut long hair is also like a look at me move i don't and i don't get like it's a big look at me move cowboy hat yes yes very so you got to take that into account yes uh all right let's get to who's get to who's back.
We're going to do some, we're going to have some segments where segment heavy show. I've actually had some people be like, Hey, when are segments coming back? Guess what? Today we've got five segments.
We've got Justin Herbert, Aaron, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald interview. We only had like 10 minutes with him because, uh, it was Super Bowl media week and we remembered what Super Bowl media week is like, but let's do who's back before we get to both of them.
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Barstool Golf Time app now. Who's back of the week, Hank? Who's back of the week is lacrosse.
Oh. So I know, I know.
Football season is Billy's mad. Football season, you guys, you know, think football is the biggest sport, number one sport in the country, sport of the future.
But, you know, Chris Huggman begged to differ. He played in the NFL.
He's a Super Bowl champion. He is choosing to instead of continue his NFL career.
Chosen? Yes. Okay.
He's opting. He has declared for the Premier League lacrosse draft.
Chosen? Yeah, he declared. No one declared for him.
He declared on his own behoof. He declared on his own behalf i mean he just said choosing yeah well it was chosen so hank i actually had this as my people forget that that people forget that chris hogan played football because now i haven't heard anybody talk about chris hogan being a football player in a while he's a lacrosse guy.
He just took a vacation to play in the NFL and win two Superbowl rings. But yeah, I'm a, I think that we have to draft him, right? Yes.
On the water dogs. I mean, otherwise like, what is the point of this entire show? This entire podcast, we have equity in the water dogs, whatever, whatever we have to do to get Chris Hogan on our team.
We have to do it. Well, we have to smoke screen because we screen because we actually we if you if you own another lacrosse team or if you governor another lacrosse team uh just disregard everything that we just said because we have to we can't let them know that we want to draft him should we downplay his draft stock yeah be like um does he really love lacrosse no one went to his birthday party yeah no he I heard actually going to just – he's doing this for show.
He's going to end up going back to the NFL. I think he's just going to be a short stick defensive middie, which isn't going to be much contribution.
He doesn't have the stick skills to hang with the pro lacrosse players. Now you're just being mean, Billy.
No, I'm trying to downplay his job. But once he gets on the team, you'll have to answer for all that.
You should stick to something. He knows it's business.
Billy, you got to stick to something light like his mother was a prostitute. Wait, Billy.
Wait, Billy. Is he really – are all those things you said true? We'll cut this, but, like, is he bad at LaCroix? No, I mean, I don't know how – I watched his Penn State tape.
It's pretty legit. What would you – like Jim Brown is his piece versus me playing lacrosse.
Where would he be? Exactly. He'd be somewhere in the middle.
Okay, cool. All right.
I'm in talks of getting us to call a game. I know Paul Rabel mentioned it a couple years ago, so I haven't forgotten that.
Yeah. Would we have to go anywhere? Maybe.
Nah. When you say in talks, Jake, is this you just the talks or these talks? This is the talks? No.
I've been in talks. We're in talks.
I would love for you to call a game. With you guys.
Right, but that means I'd have to watch an entire game?

Yeah.

Jake, if you would, I'd do it. That would be great.

You guys can go.

You guys can do it.

That would be great.

That would actually be great.

And I'll watch the highlights.

You know what would really help, actually,

the possibility for you guys to be able to do a show like that together?

Billy, if you change your name to Jake, like Mike and Mike, it always made it pop a little bit more when Mike and Mike were in the booth together doing something. So if it was Jake and Jake.
Or if Jake changed his name to Will and it was Bill and Will. Ooh, that's good too.
Yeah, that'd be really good. All right, good who's back, Hank.
Thanks. Appreciate that.
PFT. My who's back of the week is we need to we need to reset the counter as a podcast oh we need to uh zero days without an accident your pants uh on the peloton so so i was pushing hard maybe a little bit too hard i'm trying to get back into shape i ate salads all week with the exception of friday where i had a nice big steak but yeah I was and fajitas and margaritas

now back into shape. I ate salads all week with the exception of Friday where I had a nice big steak.
But yeah, I was healthy and fajitas and margaritas. No, correct.
It was a cheat day, Hank. It was cheap.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, but I want to say that during the week though, I was eating two salads a day.
Basically I was going almost no carbs during the week. And so trying to get back into shape noted football season.
Football season happened. And that's something that we can acknowledge that happened.
But now it's time to remake my body. And so I've been on the Peloton a lot.
And it turned into an actual buns of anarchy at the very, very end of the ride today. I think that's totally fair if it's a workout.
Like that's not, you just, you just know no limits. Yeah.
That's the type of stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Right.
This guy pushed himself so hard that he shat. I think that's totally fair.
Yeah, it's a whole cycle. Yeah.
All right, Billy, do you have a who's back? My who's back is the offseason. Oh.
No, my who's back was going to be Hogan. Oh, fuck, dude.
That was fun. Damn.
All right, my who's back is Jordan Spieth because he was back for about 12 hours. Max Holm was back, too.
Yeah, Jordan Spieth, though, was back. I didn't even realize, fully realize, how bad Jordan Spieth has been for, like, the last five years.
He hasn't won a tournament since 2017. He was on saturday going into sunday didn't win but he was back for like 12 hours and i guess everyone's saying like he's watch out jordan spieth might actually win a tournament again in his pro career well he was the future of golf for a little bit he was like who's next yeah when he won that masters right so like i i hope he comes back that'd be good for my underarmor stock assuming they haven't thrown him off the cliff yet but yeah i i like i guess i like jordan spieth i think it's always so hard for me to figure out like when it comes to individual sports like golf or nascar like how do i pick somebody and be like i'm i'm just a big fan of that person so i already got brooks i already got max i think we're all homosexuals on this podcast so like how do i determine whether or not i'm rooting for for jordan spieth or not i think i like him no so i think everyone likes jordan spieth because he's been so bad and such a head case for so long that he gets the pity like okay so like the country likes him now because it's it's like whoa dude you haven't won in how long they did a graphic on cbs it was so mean it was like uh virginia has law has lost as a one seed to a 16 seed and won the tournament all within uh the last time that he he's won a tournament.
I think he falls into the category of like, it would be a good story to see him come back. Correct.
It's actually a great lesson in life. Like if you can't be consistently good, be good for a little bit and then be so bad that everyone feels bad for you.
And you'll get that vote. Now he's an underdog, despite the fact that he's won millions and millions of dollars playing golf it's like man i really hope something good happens to this guy who plays a sport for a living it also made like i think it also i i know myself personally i i did this like he when he was good it was okay to make fun of the fact that he was balding very prematurely so but now that he's been bad it feels yucky like i feel yucky that i did that so i think we're all kind of like hey remember when we made fun of his hair because we thought he was gonna win every tournament and like be a billionaire well i'll take a mulligan on that and say i'm gonna root for jordan spieth yeah yeah you know what it's good to see him back in contention.
I hope that he remains competitive.

That's what I'll say about him.

Yes, yes.

Jake, did you have a who's back?

Yeah, I have two.

First up, Sister Jean.

Yeah.

They lost today, but they won Saturday.

They're in great shape to make the tournament.

She was on game day.

She's 101 now, so expect to see her make the media rounds these next few weeks.

It was a bad loss to Drake, though. It was.
They didn't have the best player. And they were up at the end.
They blew it. Yeah, but they're in good shape to make the tournament.
If they make the tournament, everyone's going to talk about her. That would really be pushing your luck if you have, like, a 101-year-old and you're wheeling her out in a pandemic in front of the media and cameras.
Come on. Let's keep Sister Jean keep sister gene isolated for a while she has got on her side um that i was watching that game it is uh i know obviously there's the debate which shouldn't even exist because it's it's like you can like two things at the same time like how can people watch ncaa basketball like nba is such a better product i know nba is a better product, but there are certain games,

the Drake Loyola Chicago game, which I watched this afternoon, where it was 45-45 in overtime.

And it was like, whoa, okay, this is something.

And then like last night when I was watching the Nets versus Warriors,

it's a different sport.

It is a different sport at times.

And what was your second?

Who's back? Tim Tebow. The Mets once again invited him to spring training.
Let's go, dude. I saw Tim Tebow at the, did you see Shaq's like, he had like, it was like a summer camp, like party where he had people, he had like a bunch of celebrities playing games before the Superbowl.
And Tebow was there just taking it way too seriously. I did see that but it doesn't surprise me tebow is back in a big way because so i subscribe to tim tebow's instant messaging service as i think most of you out there probably do he's a little thirsty tim tebow texts me like five times a week and i've not i haven't responded to him since the very first time they texted look at this and he just keeps texting me texting me nonstop.
It's like, chill, dude. Well, you know what it is, too.
Tebow's got to – there's definitely a part of Tebow that's like, this Trevor Lawrence thing doesn't work out. Urban's probably going to call me.
I mean, Tebow should be – the ceiling for Tebow is being a Jack Easterby character coach that like that swindles his way into the

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5G ultra wideband available only in parts of select cities. Global claim based on open signal independent analysis verizon 5g okay here he is justin herbert okay we now welcome on very special guest offensive rookie of the year uh from the los angeles chargers it is quarterback justin herbert he's with us from Strive Biltong, which is a snack that relies on nutrition training and fuel for his professional athletic career.
Now, what is this? Is this basically beef jerky? First off, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
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And it's got all the protein, but none of the sugar. And I'm excited to join their team because it's a perfect snack for me workouts practice whether i'm golfing fishing hiking um it's just an easy snack that i can go to to get all the nutrients that i need dude you nailed that you know talking is uh it's the working man's beef jerky it's one of my favorite snacks so i'm awesome if you guys have any send me some i'll find it you crushed that you crushed that like i can tell you've done this so good job on that thank you um all right so let's i first i want to just uh i have to get this out of the way i called you a bust because uh you beat my badgers in the rose bowl and i was very upset about it uh the comeback game your last game in college so i said you sucked and i was rooting for you to suck you proved me wrong very quickly so i just want to get that out of the way because i feel like it's important to at least say that so my bad um but really like that was fucked up that you guys came back and won that rose bowl because all i want to do is win a rose bowl well i really appreciate you saying that and i i know that probably wasn't easy for you, but...
No. Not at all.
It wasn't, no. I mean, the Rose Bowl, no matter who you play and no matter what happens, it was just a great experience to be there.
It just happened to be against Wisconsin. And they're an incredible team.
And just for us to be in that game, it meant a lot to us. And, you know, this past year has been tough on everyone, but I've had a lot of fun and I've gotten better, so I appreciate that.
Okay. All right.
Deal. Deal.
I switched pretty quickly. In my defense, I switched pretty quickly after you started coming in and just throwing lasers all over the field.
So I am Team Justin Herbert now. I want it on the record.
That's big time. I really appreciate that.
That means a lot coming from you. Yeah.
Right. Like, right off the bat, I think it took us maybe one or two games and we were like, okay, this guy's got poise.
That was game one. Then game two was like, this guy's got moxie.
We upgraded you to moxie. And then game three, it's like, this guy is the truth.
So now you're at the truth level. It usually takes like a full season to get there with us, but we upgraded you pretty early.
The only qualm I think that we had with your game that we really knocked on is you just – you hate sliding. You just love running people over.
You haven't learned yet that, like, sometimes it sucks to not slide. But it's fun watching you play.
Has there been, like, a hit where you're like, hey, maybe I should give myself up, like, maybe a yard and a half early? That's a great point. The very first game against the Chiefs, it was third and short, and I thought I could just get the first down, and I took a linebacker head on, and I found out then I should probably never do that again.
And I've gotten better over the year, but yeah, you're right. I need to slide more, and my ability is my availability, and so just being smart on the football field is what I need to do.
so that first game against the Chiefs everyone you know the story goes that you found out

essentially like 20 minutes before. Was it that close to kickoff and that close to starting that it was like, okay, Tyrod's not going to play.
You're in, Justin. You got to go against the Super Bowl champs.
It was right before the kickoff. So maybe 15 to 20 seconds.
We're about to field the kickoff, and Coach Lynn comes up to me and tells me and tells me Justin you're going in and I didn't know whether they had planned that the entire week and just not told me because I didn't really get any reps with the ones that week but I mean I just had this great big smile on my face like I'm ready to go and they're all like all right Justin focus up like knock that grin off your face like you're about to go in so okay so that leads me to this question because I have a theory that quarterbacks young quarterbacks there's a there's a period of time where you don't realize like you're supposed to make young quarterback mistakes you're not like you're actually like just too dumb to realize like hey maybe this actually I shouldn't be playing this well did you feel that where you're like I'm just out there balling like Like there's no real pressure here. I'm just having fun and doing what I've always done.
That's a great question. And I think the best thing about it was I looked at it and I said, you know, no one's really expecting a whole lot from me.
I've got nothing to lose. I can go out there and I can have fun and I'm playing in the NFL.
And this is a dream of mine ever since I've been a kid. So what do I, what do I have to lose? And I just go out there, play moves, relax.

And, you know, if you work hard, you do things right on and off the field,

good things will happen.

So it's kind of funny the way things worked out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What was that like right when you got into the game

and you obviously didn't get those reps with the first team

and they don't really have plays scripted for you like they would

for a guy that went into the game as a starter?

Did they have to make some adjustments on the fly? Or fly or like how did that hit you in that first series? Yeah, for the most part, we stuck to the game plan. Our quarterback coach, Pep Hamilton, we walked through everything and we talked about the game plan so much that so that when I went in, I was ready to go in.
I actually tell the story all the time. I go into the huddle and Hunter Henry looks at me and goes, what are you doing out here? And it was just one of those things that you don't really want to hear as you go in the huddle.
Yeah, I would imagine so. As a rookie, we hear about the difference between college and NFL speed coverage.
What's harder though? Is it the different types of defense they're throwing at you the different coverages or is it the just physical speed of the defense and like the defensive line especially yeah that's another great question i would say probably the speed of the game i mean both are tough but you get guys on the edge that are just as fast as they can possibly be and i found that out early if you get too deep in the and you sit back there, you got edge rushers that are going to come and knock the ball out of them. And then also you got coverage guys that you can get away with things in college that you just can't get away with in the NFL.
That's just, it's just experience and learning and playing through it to get to that level. Yeah.
We always hear about the difference between like being open in college and open in the NFL. Can you explain what is open in the NFL?

Yeah, it's maybe a couple steps here and there.

And then in college, you get guys that are wide open,

a few steps ahead of the defenders,

and the windows are just smaller in the NFL.

Tiny bit of separation, the guy's open.

And you better hit them because you're really not going to get a whole bunch of huge plays in the NFL. And so it's just kind of taking what you can get here and there.
So that's probably one of the biggest differences. Was there a specific jersey at Oregon that made you feel like you could like would never lose in or that you the whole team felt like they played better in? Yeah, I would say the stomp out cancer ones my sophomore year, they were all white with the chrome helmets.
And it was just it just a really good look and we went out there and we jumped on nebraska i think 42 to 14 in the first half and we were just playing pretty well in those okay so it is true now is there it was there ever a jersey that you wouldn't say it because you know you're an oregon doc and nike and all that stuff but maybe there's a little part of you like this is really what we're wearing you know yeah like you said I was a big fan of all the jerseys uh unfortunately the one that we never got a win was uh the Oregon duck when we wore the orange socks and cleats uh in Colorado my freshman year and we lost in those um but I like the idea I supported them dude I'm looking at these I'm looking at these right now the Nebraska the ones you wore in Nebraska, those are clean. You guys would never.
If you wore those, you would win every national title. Have you gone back and looked at back in the early 2000s when Oregon tried to introduce their second duck mascot, the Cyberduck that was like...
Yeah, I think it was Roboduck maybe. Yeah, Roboduck.
Yeah. What did you think about Robo Duck? Any chance we could get him back? You know, I thought it was a good idea.
I think Puddles, the main duck, he's just too tough to beat right now. And I like the idea, but I'm a big Puddles fan.
Yeah. Did you ever get lost in that locker room in Oregon after they redid it and made it basically like an amusement park? All the time.
My first couple of weeks, I got lost on my way to meetings, and I had to end up going like 15 to 20 minutes early just to find my way. The end of the Bills game.
So I had the over. I really needed you to score there.
You ran a QB sneak when your entire offensive line was running past block. Who did it suck for more, Mirio? Probably both of us pretty evenly.
You know, that's one of those situations where, you know, we wish we handled it better. There was some miscommunications from everyone on the field.
And it was just a learning experience for all of us. And, you know, it's unfortunate we didn't get to score.
And we felt like we were in that game for the most part and fell up short. And we just had to learn from it.
Wait, was it your fault? It was all of our fault. It was my fault going out there and we could have done better.
And, you know, it's a tough learning moment. But, you know, I'm better because of it.
And the team's better because of it. Okay, I think I'm going to blame you.
I think I'm going to blame you. That's fair.
What about the end of the Raiders game? That was a crazy game. Where you dove into the end zone.
I had you to score a touchdown as a prop in that game and the over. Needless to say, that was a very exciting two seconds for me.
Just thank you for that. I just wanted to say I appreciated it.
Of course. How many interviews have you done in the last week that just have been bringing up specific plays being like dude what the fuck were you thinking there because we had money on that this is the first one so it's an opportunity to talk about it okay was that seriously though that that thursday night game uh against the raiders that was one of the craziest games that i think we had all year after that's over are you even able to like process like when you're watching the film, are you able to break that down like you would a normal game? Or was it just so unusual and so hectic that it made it more difficult to learn lessons from a game like that? Yeah, it was pretty crazy for sure.
But I think the following day we ended up watching the film and talked about it. We did our best to just go through everything and get a good beat on what we did well and what we need to do better the next week.
But that was definitely one of the most fun games of the year, and just being in it, it's an incredible stadium they've got there. And the Raiders are always tough, so a lot of fun there.
All right, so my last question, Justin Herbert, Offensive Rookie of the Year. He's brought to us by Strive Biltong.
I'm sure you've been asked this, but we have to ask it. Is the hair coming back? Because that was, did you know you made a mistake when you cut your hair? First off, the hair is coming back.
But I needed to cut it. It was getting long and we were kind of in a losing skid.
And I felt like changing it up could have helped me. And it did.
We won a couple of games here and there on that. So it'll come back.
And the best part about hair is it'll grow back. Yeah, but you knew, though, like when that first picture hit the Internet, you're like, oh, this is going to be a day for me.
Well, I think the best part about that is I kind of stayed off it. I don't listen too much about what people are saying.
So, you know, it's a pretty negative place out there. And I'm glad I kind of stayed away from it.
Good. Listen, I actually had your back on the haircut.
I thought it showed leadership that you went to your strength and conditioning coach and trusted him to cut your hair. It's like that dude only knows how to do, like, a buzz cut.
That's a guy that, like, showers with Brillo pads, his washcloths, and just, like, cuts his hair off because it gets in the way of him day to day. So I didn't mind the haircut.
But, yeah, people have to get their jokes off of Basher. Wait, you don't even have Twitter? No, no Twitter.
Damn. Good for you, dude.
Thank you. That's more impressive than anything you did on the field this year.
It'd be like, I don't have Twitter. I'm good without it.
Yeah, I mean, we obviously don't get as much news,

so I have to kind of find all the news elsewhere.

But, you know, it's been fun, though.

You must be happy all the time.

That's a great decision.

Don't ever log on, Justin.

I want you to stay pure just the way you are.

I'll do that for sure.

Yeah, and if you ever need, like, a couple watchdogs

to just, you know, keep the streets clean for you, we are willing and able to do it. Well, I appreciate that.
That's huge. Okay.
All right, awesome, Justin. Thank you, man.
We really appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate you guys.
Thank you. Thanks, man.
Thanks, man. Seriously, congrats on not being on Twitter.
That's fucking sick. Thank you.
I mean, it's just kind of a negative play sometimes. Yeah.
Sometimes. Had I read the tweets from you, that probably would have hurt me.
Yes. Actually, I don't know if I roasted you that bad for that.
Yeah, I don't think we roasted you that bad for it. But, yeah, it's a very good decision not being on Twitter.
I secretly envy you. Yeah, if I could trade anything, it wouldn't be your bank account or your rocket arm it would be the fact that you're not on twitter wow i like that all right man all right yeah thank you guys that interview with justin herbert was brought to you by our great friends over at core Coors Seltzer.
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So trying to find something that's right in between the middle. So me having my input to figure that out with Pat was great.
You know, even when it comes down to the bottle shape and everything like that, get my input. And so I definitely was able to, you know, play a role as far as, you know, trying to make this drink right.
I like that. I like the feel of a good bottle can make all the difference.
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We'll to get you some product if uh i thought we had a care package sent up for you so we'll have to make sure we get some for you yeah get it yeah aaron how are the ribs um they're getting better um you know this week this has been the best week so far so um definitely feeling a lot better you know healing good did so can you tell us how that happened because we did i did make the joke afterwards that you are able to dodge knives during training and uh then russell wilson lightly sits on you and you broke your ribs no it was just weird how it happened um i hit him took him down i guess the way you know he landed on me and the way my body twisted just happened how it happened it was a. Yeah, it was so because we all, you know, we watch you every Sunday and you are exceptional and like an Iron Man.
So when it happened, like, wait, what the heck? But I guess it also is like if you're if you feel like you're hurt, then I would imagine it would be something would probably kill us. Like, I think if Russell Wilson, if that same thing happened to me, I'd just be dead.
i felt it it was just you know i felt like a weird feeling i kind of like i'm like the way it happened i like couldn't be it can't be nothing serious i kind of thought i got the wind knocked out of me so i tried to like gather myself and then i started walking and it was like a burning feeling and i sat down trying to trying to breathe which is uncomfortable so i'm just trying to i was trying to compose myself and calm myself down and see what was wrong. And the pain wouldn't go away.
So I went inside and see what was going on from there. Yeah, rib injuries are weird.
They're the most frustrating injury ever because it hurts to breathe. It hurts to laugh.
I don't know if you had the hiccups at all when you had a rib injury. That's a fate worse than death.
Difficult to diagnose. Yeah, trying to take a crap.
Everything hurts when you've got a rib injury. Has that put a cramp in your workout time? Because I know that you probably don't go longer than like two days without working out ever in your life.
Has that made you have to like sit back and rest your body a little bit more than you would like to? Well, no, I really, after the season, took two days off,

was back in the weight room training.

Actually, this is the first week that I took off at all.

So this is my first week off since the season ended.

So I'm just trying to let my body heal a little bit more, but I'm feeling good.

What's the longest that you ever have been without working out at all, like without picking up a weight? What's the longest Aaron Donald has actually let his body rest? A week. I did a week.
Not a full week. I usually go, you know, try to go a whole week and by like like a Thursday, Friday, I'm doing some type of weight back in the way.
I'm trying to do something just to feel good. So, yeah, I randomly last night was because since it's super bowl week i was watching uh nfl network and they were playing old super bowls so they're playing the one a couple years ago against the patriots and you were giving yourself a pump-up speech and you were telling yourself controlled aggression controlled aggression do you notice when you have uncontrolled aggression on the field Well, yeah, anybody can notice that.
You know, you just lose it. But, yeah, a lot of things that I say to myself is stuff that my dad told me.
You know, he still tells me to the day, but a lot of sayings he told me, you know, controlled aggression, hard work playoff, things that he used to tell me as a kid, give me my little prep speeches i just taught to myself now like it was if it was like if he was talking to me so it's it's kind of weird different but um that's everything everybody get motivated different ways so you should think about uh i i know i'm sure that like you know shit gets talked back and forth on the line but you should at some point just tell the lineman across from you like hey just so you know, I'm doing controlled aggression right now. Like, I'm controlling it.
You don't want to see me uncontrolled. Because I was watching the video, and you were pumping me up, and I'm like, holy shit.
Like, what is uncontrolled aggression from Aaron Donald? Probably the scariest thing in the world. Yeah, it's not too good.
But, you know, that's why you got to, you know, control it because you got to be smart. You don't want to do nothing foolish to the point where you get a flag and hurt your team.
Yeah. What happens when you're on controlled aggression? Is there something that you can tell on yourself? Like, hey, you've crossed the line.
Bring it back. Control that aggression.
Well, whatever happens, it happens, and then you lash out, and then you've got to relax yourself and calm yourself down. It just occurred to me.
I remember watching a video of you a couple years ago when they implemented the new rules about how you're allowed to tackle a quarterback and how you're allowed to land on the quarterback and what you can and can't do, and you were just belly flopping onto the training dummy in practice. It just occurred to me that Russell Wilson did that to you in a game and injured you by landing with his whole body weight on you.
Do you think that there should be, like, the same rule for quarterbacks that you're not allowed to land on defensive tackles? No, man. It is what it is.
It just happened how it happened. So, you know, injury happened.
You know, season's over. So I'm just here, you know, trying to, you know, talk about my new Ready Sports drink, you know sports drink you know here with my partner pat yeah you know just talking about a great drink um i saw a video of you where you were jumping into a pool and you were you were saying that like you could play on offense is that something that you've talked to coach mcveigh about like put me in a running back put me in a tight end well i've been trying to get get like a goal line package since my rookie year so i've been trying it just ain't taking a bait so um but trying to get me a little nice little gold line package for a while it just ain't happened so we got to get that going um have you talked to matt stafford yet obviously the big trade happened we are just so you know friends with jared goff so uh you know that was the rams big loss there because we're going to always have jared's side But have you talked to your new quarterback yet? Yeah, I talked to him.
You know, I talked to him. So.
What did you guys say? Were you like, hey, what's up, man? No, we just talked. You know, you just, you know, at the end of the day, it's a business.
You know, I wish nothing but the best for golf. You know, I'm going to keep in contact with him.
I'm more happy for golf just getting a fresh start, you know um you know i know this is gonna motivate him and push him so i know he's gonna do great things in detroit but um the switch happened the change happened from a business standpoint so um you know i thought the stanford we said some things and that's what it is so i remember this week last year uh we had you and dk metcalf on at the same time time. And DK was saying that he could bench press more than you.
Do you think that after this season, another year, another year getting stronger for you, that you can take DK into bench press? Yes. He's a red receiver.
I'm a defensive lineman. So we live different, you know? Yeah.
What about squatting? You think you can out-squat them too? We live different. Do you think that you're the strongest player in the NFL? I don't know, man.
I just know I'm pretty strong. You know, I stay in my own lane.
You know, I know what I can do and can't do. I know what I need to do to prepare myself every season, you know, because I got to work.
You know, if I don't work, I ain't going to be productive. You know, the better you get at this game, the harder it gets because now you got that much more attention.
Now more teams are trying to find ways to slow you down. Players are trying to find ways that, you know, not allow you to make plays.
So I can't allow myself to, you know, fall short of nothing. I got to continue to work, you know, continue to find ways to get stronger and get better.
So, you know, that production continues to stay at a high level. So the other big change for the Rams this offseason, besides the quarterback position, was your defensive coordinator got hired by the Chargers.
What was Brandon Staley doing this past year that was so different? And, you know, he was talked up a lot. What was he doing that was so different schematically or just preparation-wise that had you guys playing at such a high level coming into January? I think we had some great players.
We had some great football players that was all playing at a high level. I think he did a great job for us.
Game scheme and certain things and being able to give different looks to offenses and they think one thing and they see another.

Be able to do certain things to give certain guys one-on-ones up front.

And I think as a defense, I think guys were just making plays.

You know, it wasn't one or two guys.

It was multiple guys that was, you know, making a game-changing play

at any time of the game.

Each week it was somebody different.

So when you've got a defense like that, guys is having fun.

Guys is flying around. You know, good things come out of that.
So, you know, that's what you guys were saying. So a quick follow-up to that.
Can you tell when a coach has put you guys in a spot where it's like, if we just do this, we're going to be awesome. Like, we're going to succeed.
Can you tell when a coach has everything lined up and you're like, the trust is here. They see things that are going to show up on Sunday.
And we feel like we're like almost a step ahead of the competition. Well, yeah, that's game planning.
You go into, you study film. You have a game plan you go into.
Then you, once you're out there playing the game, you get a feel for what's going on. You see what the offense is giving you.
They see and vice versa so um playing the game getting a feel for it like that you see a lot things like that so yeah is it is it actually fun for you if you have a game and let's say you're getting double and triple teamed the entire time and uh you don't put up any tackles for loss you don't get a sack but your defense plays well like do you have fun in that game as as they've clearly like game plan to take you out of, but your other teammates are still having a great game out there? Is that fun for you? For sure. Obviously, I want to be out there.
I want to make plays. I want to be the guy making.
But as long as somebody's doing it, that's all that matters. I'm doing my job.
If I'm out there and I take a double team or a triple team, whatever the case may be, and the guy's able to wrap off that and make a play, or one of the DBs is able to make a pick and make a game, change a play to help us win. Yeah, I'm all for that because at the end of the day, it's about winning.
You know, the individual's success is great, but you know, the overall goal is to make it to a Super Bowl. And I can't personally do that by myself.
You know, it's a team effort. So I need guys around me too to make plays.
And that's what it comes down to. I've always wondered about that.

If you're a guy that's getting triple teamed on a play,

do you have like a game plan in your head of in what order you're going to take these guys out?

Like you have to pull some John Wick shit, basically.

It's like, I'm going to hit this guy in his chest.

I'm going to kick this guy in his shit and then put my forearm in this guy's

throat.

Then I'll get into the backfield.

Well, you just play the game. When you line up, you're not expecting a triple team.
You're expecting to try to defeat the guy in front of you. You hear different calls.
If you know the slide protection is coming to you, you know certain blocks from what I watched on film, what I'm going to get. So that all, I counter into it.
So sometimes I might beat the first guy to center my slide. You might beat him, him and then might be like a back chipping or something like that to just slow you down enough not to get to the sack.
But, you know, you really can't do too much. You just play your game.
All right, guys, we're going to have to wrap up. Excuse me.
I just want to say thank you. Okay, cool.
All right. Thanks, guys.
Thanks so much. Take care.
All right. Thanks, Aaron.
See you. See you, man.
Thank you very much. All right.
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And it takes a lot of work, a lot of hard work, a lot of hours go into it. It just really upset me that this trophy was disgraced and disrespected by being thrown as if it was a real football.
I didn't sleep for the past two nights because of this. I was that upset because I know the passion that goes into this trophy and how my dad and all his fellow silversmiths are so proud to make this.
I personally would like an apology, not just to me and my family and the other silversmiths, but to the fans.

That was 100% real.

That woman actually has lost sleep over the fact that Tom Brady threw the Lombardi trophy to his teammate across water,

disrespecting silversmiths far and wide.

Yeah, respect the silversmith industry, big cat. I think that the Lombardi Trophy should never be touched.
It should be like that guitar and spinal tap. It's not to be played.
Don't even point at it. Don't even look at it.
It should just exist in a glass stand forever. And if this lady thinks that the Lombardi Trophy was being disrespected by being thrown, she should have a conversation with some NHL players about what the Stanley Cup has been through.
You know what? Like me and you getting to drink out of the Stanley Cup is far more disrespectful to a trophy than Tom Brady almost throwing it to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. How about the fact that Gronk dented it like a year ago, two years ago? I love this lady this lady though, because she doesn't have the internet because there's no way that you do that interview.
If you know how the internet works, you know what I mean? Like she, she thinks that she just put that into a void and just shipped it off. And it was like, I just need to get my thoughts out there.
I haven't slept. It was appalling what I saw.
And I and i just want someone to hear it she she doesn't know that like she dominated saturday night and that people were laughing at her and she's utterly ridiculous and i appreciate that type of person we just had justin herbert on who doesn't have twitter like that's people who don't even know what the internet is yeah and don't use it i respect so so much so i'm confused about the lombardi trophy because there seemed to be a ton of them and that lady was acting like this is the only one like this is the real one that he threw but they seem to be like mr smith's in the matrix where like they just show up everywhere i see like an interview with charlie casserly on nfl network and he's got like two lombardi trophies behind him in the background. What's going on? How many are there? We should actually like, if anyone can get us a couple, we need at least a few in our, in our studio.
I've been saying like, we've been, cause if Tom Brady, if that was the one Lombardi trophy, like the actual one that they just give you for a parade and he had thrown it into the bottom of the ocean, I actually think that there's a good case to be made that they should invent a new trophy and just know that the lombardi is sunk forever and now then that one's named after tom brady hank it yeah there you go but it's also crazy because i think she was she was essentially saying that her father made the first one but didn't make this one she he just made the first one okay so she's offended for the first one i wouldn't design it i don't i mean it's a foot it's a football on a stand right but no it's a don't it's more than that it's sneaky genius yeah uh you know it is perfect you know what the lombardi trophy has lost a lot of shine trophy yeah. It's lost a lot of its shine recently because it's always in the logo for the Superbowl.
I see it too much. Yeah.
It's always in my face back when the Superbowls had different logos, getting to see the Lombardi trophy was an event. It's like, Oh, there it is.
Oh, I forgot what that looked like. Yeah, exactly.
It was like a big reveal. And I would have liked it if this lady had worked in like some millennial bashing to her comments where she was saying like, now that every kid gets a participation trophy, athletes don't respect trophies anymore.
And they're just throwing them around like they're party favors. Right.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
All right. Next up, we have Sorry Not Sorry.
This is from James Harden. This is equally as unbelievable.
So James Harden did an interview with Rachel Nichols

before the Nets Warriors game on Saturday night, which, by the way, Kyrie Irving has said that James Harden is the point guard. So he's essentially said, like, hey, there's only one ball.
It's James Harden's ball, except for when it's Kevin Durant's ball and also when it's my ball. But James Harden said he is sorry for how his Houston Rockets tenure ended and, quote, said, I don't like it at all because that's not who I am.
That is who you are. You did all those things.
So he said, I feel like it could have happened a lot smoother, a lot easier, but it is what it is i does he know that he caused all of it well to me that just speaks to my theory that james harden has a twin a fat twin that steps in fucks everything up for him when he needs somebody to be bad at basketball and he's like that's not who i am he's just like he's admitting it but yeah like that is that is what happened james you you got fat james you got got fat. You ate your way out of Houston, which is very difficult to do.
You stopped trying, and then you said that the Rockets were just not good enough and it can't be fixed. Those were your quotes.
Those were things you said. Taking private jets to Las Vegas in between games on days of games.
That's not who he is. Took a personal day to go to his birthday party.
The media is making him out to be like some guy that chokes in big situations, that loves strippers, and gets unhappy despite having a $200 million contract in a state with no income tax. And that's not at all who James Harden is, guys.
That is so bad in closeout games that it actually is believable that he was on drugs not that he was but it actually is believable because that would be a better excuse for just I was trying my hardest and I sucked this bad so he finished with apologize for how it went down but I guess I had to do what I had to do in order to get where I wanted to go yeah it's not who he is for any of it you actually aren't sorry whatsoever you you're just saying the words sorry it's it's almost like like like a four-year-old being like i apologize but like they don't they're just saying it so they can get out of trouble that's not the real me like everyone thinks that they know somebody just because there's six months of on the record conversations and hours and hours of game film that they can review but that's not who i am that's not who i am that's not who he is i do like kairi saying it wasn't a mystical conversation because i mean the first thought i had in my head is like what type of mystical conversation did they have to determine who was going to be the point guard it is lunar new year i'm sure there was astrology involved well that's i mean it's similar to the guy who said that he wasn't a cat the lawyer said he wasn't a cat who i can't get out of my head but like dude if you or jim caldwell when he said he was very much alive like if you say it wasn't a mystical conversation it was a mystical conversation yes you just told us what it was you're trying to get us to think it wasn't but it clearly was My t-shirt that says it was not a mystical conversation. Yes.
You just told us what it was. You're trying to get us to think it wasn't,

but it clearly was.

My t-shirt that says it was not a mystical conversation is raising a lot of

questions that have already been answered by my t-shirt.

Right.

Exactly.

Guys,

stop talking about the mystical conversation.

I don't know where you get that idea.

Other than me saying it wasn't a mystical conversation.

All right.

Before we have a drunk idea,

we also have thoughts and prayers. Colin coward coward he had what what was his official diagnosis he had a blood clot in his lung yeah which which i think he even said that might be because he's been doing so much high altitude skiing so he he had he it's a vacation injury he got a vacation injury hank let that be a lesson i like it to be like watching one piece with his first video when he's like yeah i got a blood clot it could be because i've been in veil just fucking dropping out of copters and doing some sick ass tricks like what okay the powder and i went scuba diving in the bahamas so it could be something with that the change in altitudes with my my awesome lifestyle listen the powder's been too extreme up in aspen recently like it that's probably going around a lot amongst extreme sports athletes you're seeing it as a pandemic but it's tough to have sympathy for a guy who's like hey i got an injury probably because i've been spending so much time on the fucking in breckenridge i mean too much too much soup could be an issue too you inhale that soup it goes down the wrong tube it goes into the lung it's just basically like pneumonia that gets started in there just except you know it's not like spit or bile that gets lodged in there it's just mulga tony and that can get infected so um i was a little upset because he kind of stole my uh shine as sportscaster fighting for his life this week.
But whatever. He also, like, he did, like, daily updates where he's like, look, Justin Herbert sent me a signed ball.
Or, like, he even did one tonight where he was like, I'm going back to work. I was supposed to have Monday off, but I'm going back to work.
Fucking way to go, Colin. But he did mention that he was having soup for dinner, so he's all the way back.
Okay, good. Glad to hear that.
Yeah, he is really stealing your shine. There's a lot of podcasting lung injuries that are going around.
I could have died. If Colin Coward, maybe if he smoked a little bit more weed and chilled out on the soup and all the cocktails that he's having with Brian Rusillo out in Manhattan Beach, maybe if you puffed a little bit, if you blazed more, Colin, that would train your lungs to be acclimated to environments where there's less oxygen.
Yeah. What were you going to say, Billy? I actually have a who's back of the week.
Johnny Manziel scored in the Flash fan-controlled football league this weekend. Yeah.
By the way, what was the name of his team? The Zappers? Was it the Zappers? Z the zappers zappers the other team was owned by marshawn lynch and they were the beasts i think the a really quick way for me to not respect your football league is to have a team named the zappers that's like a that's like a character from doug funny no it looked like it was a 1991 arcade game. And they're playing on like

a 12-foot field.

It's an arena. Honestly, I just love

all football. I'm actually going to follow

this now. He was one for five

throwing. He

scored. He was one for five

throwing. I saw that because

everyone was talking about it.

He also said that he felt washed

up as he was running in the game. He was like,

man, I really suck right now. I got

caught from behind. I don't know why they're paying Thank you.
Money man's out. Money man's out.
He also said that he felt washed up as he was running in the game.

He's like, man, I really suck right now.

I got caught from behind.

I don't know why they're paying me to do that,

but win or lose, the Zappers booze.

That's what they say about the Zappers.

Everyone knows that.

An illustrious franchise.

One of the founding franchises of – what's the league called?

Fan-controlled.

Fan-controlled football league.

So I think you can call their plays.

Dude, they really should bring back the Arena League.

They should bring back the XFL.

Yeah, Billy. But the Arena League was a little different, where it's like, you know, I don't know.
You just – Actually, I didn't even watch it, so I don't even know why I'm saying it. It had a little of a hockey.
I didn't even care about the Arena League. But it was nice to know it existed.
Yeah. It was nice to know it existed.
Big Cat and I were actually offered to be owners of a franchise like a year and a half in the fan control. Do you remember that? It was going to be Richard Sherman, Marshawn Lynch, and then us, I think, owning a team.
It was classic us because they were like, hey, do you want to own a football team? And we just kind of forgot about it. Well, they also, if I remember correctly, they were like, we're going to pay you in sweat equity, and you're just going to talk about it a bunch.
They were like, what? Okay, that doesn't really – that doesn't make any sense. All right.
I think I can play in this league. All right, sure.
Yeah. Come on.
Billy. Billy's just looking.
Where is it located, Billy? Las Vegas. Yeah, okay.
Billy just wants to go to Vegas. That's what we're working with here.
Serious question, though, Billy. If you did put on the pads and you went out there, what would your mindset be? You know, just a great mindset.
All right, he's figured it out. Never mind.
All right, he caught on. I was testing.
I had to test to see when Billy would actually catch him. Yeah, I'm officially out of fight mode and sober, and it's, you know.
Okay. What's fight mode? The joke's done.
Yeah. What is fight mode? What's the difference between fight mode and now? When are you going to start calling people out, Billy? We got to keep the momentum going.
I know. I got to get my big deal.
Who's on the short list? Who's on the short list? I mean, of course, honestly, I'd fight a Paul brother, and I probably wouldn't fight anybody else. What about a guy named Paul? What about a guy named Paul? Dude, Jose, would you fight Jose in a rematch if Jose got $0? I'm actually kind of sad.
Winner take all. Yes, winner take all would actually be the only way.
I feel bad now. Winner take all for $0.
No, I think you could legitimately rematch Jose, but you'd have to be like $100,000 is all you can get, and you have to win the fight. I don't want to.
That was sad. Realizing that he wasn't like actually like shouldn't have been in a boxing ring by any means.
Let me see. Billy just.
I don't want to. I sort of.
It's it's, you know, I've centered my. You're a pussy.
You're being a pussy. No, I just I.
You won't beat an old man up again. I.
But the thing is, I didn't know he was an old man. I thought he was going to kill me.
Why? Why did you think that? Because he said he was like blood force trauma to my brain. So I was like, fuck, bro.
Like, kids sleep on you, guys. You knew that, like, once he hit you, like, he didn't have that.
I know, but I was in wartime, bro. I was in the zone.
Anyway. But, like, so going into the fight, like, you thought it's different from different from it is now because now you're like i could kick this guy's ass yeah going into the last fight you're like this dude is huge he's like six three yeah how am i going to be able to prepare for that i it's the whole thing i've sort of i've i'm back to earth we're all good huh all right uh pfc you had a drunk idea idea real quick? Yeah, I don't know how good this idea is, but it sounded good at the time.
Wearing a cowboy hat all the time? Well, no, it was actually while I was wearing the cowboy hat, I thought about it. Peloton diapers? Yeah, Peloton.
It's actually a bike seat that's just made out of cloth. It's a bike seat that's a giant tampon that goes up your butthole while you're biking on it uh no it's um it's top golf but for other sports why why is top golf the only like thing that exists where you go someplace and you play a sport and it's like an arcade there should be top golf but for like football where you're the core you're the quarterback yeah but batting cages, that could be cool.
But like, imagine that all gyms, imagine you have a football and then in front of you, it's like this big field and there are people that are, there are people that are like running routes and you can like hit the receivers with passes. You can, you know, just throw deep bombs.
They're nets set up. They keep score of every ball that you throw you compete against your buddies are like um yeah i think that exists does it well i mean like it exists in like arcades yeah but i'm talking about like a bigger a bigger you're just talking about dave and busters yeah well so the big thing is like at top golf you can play your sport but you also get to drink beer right so at you would have couches, you'd have a whole setup, you'd have a bartender that came out, and then you also have footballs.
And so then you just like airmail like 60-yard bombs. What about – so what would be the plan for the amount of fights that would break out in the parking lot between like high school warriors who were like, I was fucking all state? So that's the beauty that's the beauty of it.
The parking lot is top boxing. They actually have a bartender out there and they're like rope set up and gloves.
Just like actually, you know what a bar that you can go into and challenge somebody to a fight and it's all legal. You put on the box and gloves, step into the ring, sell your beef.
I think you should have even more. I think you should even further after the after the uh top boxing in the parking lot dating app yeah it's also nobody it should be top medic because all these guys clearly think that they're doctors as well so they're like oh dude that's just a shoulder strain like we'll get you fixed up here take some hgh yeah i love that perfect it's just billy's camp yeah you're just talking about billy then they have uh like top top sex after after the after party where you can come with a girl oh fuck top the uh the michael vick experience from nike yes that is kind of like what you're doing right yeah yeah effective of being a quarterback yeah yeah i mean that'd be it It would be fun as shit.
Yeah, it would. It would be very fun.
Yeah. All right.

I'm in let's wear investors let's do it top football top football uh all right that is our show we'll see everyone wednesday there's rumor on the street we might even talk a little hockey on wednesday with a good friend of ours ryan whitney probably heard of, probably heard of him. All right.
We will see you guys then. Love you guys.
Oh, are we going to do, do numbers? Oh yeah. Let's do numbers.
I got it. 14, 8, 32 raccoons hate tie and pepper and Irish spring soap bars.
Yeah. JJ water.
I told us that seriously. No, he just said he's never used Irish Spring and he's basically a trash panda.
Alright, here we go. 99.
66. 18.
32. I hope I don't get it.
80. Fuck.
Alright, see everyone. We'll be back together on Tuesday.
Tuesday? We're in the office. Not you.
Okay. Not you and not you.
No, you can come back. Actually.
That's negative. What do you have, Billy? What do you have, Billy? Did you think it was a little ridiculous on Thursday? Right before the show started, you're like, Hey guys, I can't be there.
I've've i've been i i need to put my life back together

why what happened well i had to it turns out you know i had to do this volunteer income tax

assistant thing i had to get on the flight it was just do you think i played twice and you tweeted

that yesterday that you finished it yeah no but i did one i have to do like a hundred billy do you

think that like the last week you were in like a – like you felt different. It felt different.
Were you in like a different mindset? Dude, honestly, I'm just glad to be back to earth. Did you get a concussion? Did Jose give you a concussion? Yeah, are you okay? Did you give yourself a concussion? No, training.
I need to get my nose fixed. That's what I need to do.

What happened to your nose?

I buckled my septum.

Too much cocaine?

I had no surgery in college.

Jake also was addicted to cocaine.

Did you?

No, I don't.

Dude, I did zero cocaine down in Florida.

Zero.

I'm not a drug guy.

This is like the mystical conversation. Why did you bring that up? Bro, because you guys keep.
No, I did zero cocaine down in Florida. Zero.
I'm not a drug guy. Oh, this is like the mystical conversation.

Why'd you bring that up?

Bro, because you guys keep –

No, I did zero.

Like, what's the least amount of cocaine you can do?

I did less than that.

I did negative –

Dude, I just drink –

I don't have any other vices.

Well, I mean, berserker mode is definitely a vice.

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to get there ever again in my life.

That was crazy.

When were you there last?

Thank you guys for being so patient. I was, you know, I was shacked in a fool.
You're fine, Billy. I love you, Billy.
We're keeping all this in. Wait, wait, Billy, what are you spending your money on? Dude? I've just,

I think I might, I might.

I could see Billy burying a bunch of hundred dollar bills and being like,

fuck. Well, I have an idea.
I need, I would, I would like to talk to Dave because no talk to us first.

Okay. I was going to cut this.
We'll cut this. Okay.

So I was going to this we'll cut this okay so I was

gonna be like look

I don't know what to say. I'm talking away.

I don't know what to say.

I'll say it anyway.

Today is my day to find you.

Shying away.

I'm coming for your love of me. Love of the Blue Love of the Blue So needless to say I'm all the same

But I'll be somewhere in a way

Start learning the fight is okay

Say after me

It's pathetic to be safe inside See you next time. I'm out.