MNF, TimTheTatman And Best of 2020 feat. Matthew McConaughey, Joe Burrow, Coach O, Blake Griffin And More

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Speaker 9 On today's Pardon My Take, best of 2020.

Speaker 11 It's our last episode of 2020.

Speaker 13 We also have some new stuff.

Speaker 13 A new interview with Tim the Tatman.

Speaker 14 We also have Monday Night Football recap.

Speaker 16 We're in the studio.

Speaker 17 So we'll recap all of that.

Speaker 18 Get you ready for any updates coming up for week 17.

Speaker 2 And the best of part of my take 2020, a loaded best of even a year when there weren't sports for half the year.

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Speaker 13 today is wednesday December 30th, the last part of my take of 2020.

Speaker 9 See you later, 2020.

Speaker 34 Yes, we made it, guys.

Speaker 9 We're all gravy right now.

Speaker 27 All of our problems are done.

Speaker 36 New us.

Speaker 37 Oh, fuck yes, Chris.

Speaker 34 All the worst is over.

Speaker 38 It's all over.

Speaker 11 Sports are back. Hell yeah.
You can just flip the page.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go to sleep at 10.30.

Speaker 38 You know what? On Thursday night.

Speaker 34 Fuck it.

Speaker 38 Let's do 2020 again.

Speaker 11 Starting January 1st. It's 2020.
Last year, it didn't happen. Whatever you did, any fuck-ups you had, if it was in 2020, it doesn't count.

Speaker 40 Hard bodies coming up.

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Speaker 43 All right, so we have a best of.

Speaker 1 We have great best of. We just went through the whole thing.

Speaker 44 We have Tim the Tapman as well.

Speaker 13 That's a new, brand new interview, awesome interview with him.

Speaker 31 If you don't know who he is, he's basically a superstar in the streaming world.

Speaker 46 He's going to be, like, we're full on,

Speaker 48 not to be revellion, but the cool streamers, Nick Mercks and Tim the Tapman, we're all in on these guys because they're fucking awesome.

Speaker 51 We're all in on streaming right now.

Speaker 52 Well, we're all in on personality stream.

Speaker 16 We actually talked to him about it, how there's a difference between people who are like technically incredible at the video games but have no personality versus people you just want to hang out with, and that's Tim the Tapman.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I like Tim. I like Nick Mercks.
I don't know. Like, do we have to pick a side? Are they friends?

Speaker 57 No, they're friends.

Speaker 58 Okay, friends. Okay, we're.

Speaker 9 I think we're phase clan. Are they clan?

Speaker 34 Yeah, phase clan?

Speaker 60 We are phase. Phase.

Speaker 11 We'll phase clan. Phase as fuck.

Speaker 61 We'll phase on site if you see us.

Speaker 11 Dude, I'll phase fuck the shit out of you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, don't even come at us.

Speaker 61 Phase up.

Speaker 60 Phase up. Phase up, bro.

Speaker 62 Before we do that, though, the Buffalo Bills are a fucking weapon.

Speaker 26 Josh Allen went into Foxborough, beat what was left of the Patriots.

Speaker 19 Cam Newton, I mean, I think he has to retire.

Speaker 9 I don't really know at this point.

Speaker 11 It was sad. It was sad because they were doing their best.

Speaker 11 And after the game, Josh McDaniels even added on to what they were saying in the pregame and during the game, which is that Cam Newton is working harder than anybody else on the Patriots, but he just sucks.

Speaker 11 You know how much that must suck personally to go into work before anyone, leave after everyone's gone and still suck at your job?

Speaker 63 It's got to be really, really difficult.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so he might straight up retire at this point. I think, I mean, I don't want to harp too much on this, but they did lose their fullback going into the season.
No one's talking about that.

Speaker 11 They lost Devlin and they lost Danny Vitale, who both opted out this year.

Speaker 11 Everyone's talking about Tom Brady.

Speaker 48 That actually kind of makes them not a fullback.

Speaker 11 Like, that's a big deal.

Speaker 11 That would make them not a fullback. What, opting out? Yes.
I think

Speaker 11 they're opting into more football.

Speaker 65 No, you just,

Speaker 54 you know that that's not a football.

Speaker 9 Well, okay, so Devlin didn't opt out.

Speaker 11 Devlin like broke his neck and had to retire. Danny Vitale, he's a Northwestern kid, you know.

Speaker 18 Smarter than everyone else.

Speaker 67 So, but

Speaker 13 it reminds me of, you know, that stupid game, like way, way old game, like 20 years ago, the Q-W-E-R-T-Y, the QWERTY game, where the guy had to run?

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was impossible. Impossible.

Speaker 15 That's what Cam Newton looks like when he's trying to pass.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Everything,

Speaker 5 I think when he gets the ball, he says to himself, okay, like one foot in front of the other, cock your arm back.

Speaker 43 Like he's actually doing a mental checklist.

Speaker 15 That's how

Speaker 19 regimented and broken it looks when he's trying to throw the football.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it does look like there's a small Cam Newton inside of Cam Newton's body that's like pulling the levers and like making him do all the things.

Speaker 6 You have to hit all the buttons perfectly just to get a seven-yard pass.

Speaker 11 That's why he does the Superman celebration with a chest just like

Speaker 11 let the real Cam Newton take a peek out of his rib cage and then close it back up.

Speaker 13 uh the other takeaway I had from this game we you know we've obviously Josh Allen has been a friend of the program since he came in the league we love Josh Allen but

Speaker 13 even even like knowing how awesome he is he will still like once or twice a game put my jaw on the ground I'll be watching it like how did he just throw it that far just effortlessly yeah he is He is that incredible, and he's playing at that high of a level that he can still shock me.

Speaker 43 And

Speaker 54 I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes because Mahomes has the MVP in the Super Bowl, but there's only a few guys in the league who can do that where you sit there and you're like, holy fuck, how'd they do that?

Speaker 45 He's getting up to that level of how, how'd he do that?

Speaker 11 It's also super impressive when you're doing it and it's cold outside.

Speaker 11 I know it probably makes like very little difference in terms of throwing the football, but watching on TV, if it's like 30 degrees outside and Josh Allen is like the king of small windows and just nailing these throws.

Speaker 11 Right. Like if it's cold, it's like more impressive personally to my eyeballs to watch it.
But I do think that Josh Allen is the new king of windows in the NFL.

Speaker 11 I think he has windows that he hits that Patrick Mahomes, I don't think Patrick Mahomes can make those same throws. Yeah.
I think that Josh Allen, I think the Buffalo Bills

Speaker 11 could very well beat the Chiefs. In fact,

Speaker 11 I think that the Buffalo Bills will beat the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Speaker 27 Oh, wow.

Speaker 11 I'm going to be the first that I heard say it to say it. Okay.
The Buffalo Bills are going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 27 I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 35 I haven't heard anyone say it.

Speaker 9 I know who said it, and I don't want to give him credit.

Speaker 11 I'm I'm going to stay with my chest, though.

Speaker 60 That's the Bruce Hard.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 11 These Buffalo

Speaker 11 are going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 27 But

Speaker 11 they might have to play the Browns in the playoffs. I don't know who I'm going to root for then.

Speaker 6 Well, the Browns got lucky because Mason Rudolph is now officially starting on Sunday.

Speaker 13 I figured that was going to happen. Big Ben needed his bye week.

Speaker 31 Hilarious that Big Ben, like the reports after that game, on Monday after we had taped, but he essentially just started calling his own plays for the entire second half, just like drawing it up in the sand.

Speaker 79 That's old-school gunslinger like Brett Favre of like, hey, we're just going to

Speaker 6 draw this up in the sand here.

Speaker 61 Blake Batman.

Speaker 74 Yeah,

Speaker 13 the Rams-Cardinals game, which means a lot to my personal happiness, that is

Speaker 31 up in the air in terms of Kyler Murray's hurt.

Speaker 52 Jared Goff's hurt.

Speaker 45 Blake Bortles is back on the Rams.

Speaker 31 Blake Bortles saving the Bears season would be fantastic. And then the other news was Dwayne Hassens Haskins got cut.

Speaker 75 Yep.

Speaker 18 And that was actually the correct move. And I don't know.

Speaker 11 No one's really saying it would. I haven't heard a single person be like, they should have kept it.

Speaker 73 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 11 Yeah, why? What's going on? And I'm liking the reports that are coming out. Everything is now in retrospect.
At the time, hand up, I wanted Dwayne Haskins. I'll admit it.
I'm mad enough to admit it.

Speaker 34 How about

Speaker 34 the Giants fans?

Speaker 81 I didn't know

Speaker 11 Dwayne Haskins. I didn't know he was going to have diarrhea for a full calendar year and get cut.
That's on me. There was no way to tell that.

Speaker 11 But going back and looking at exactly who on the team wanted him and who didn't, like it was very clear that Jay Gruden never wanted Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 11 The people that were coaching the team at the time never wanted to draft Dwayne Haskins. And Dan Snyder made him because he was from Potomac, Maryland, and went to high school with Dan Snyder.

Speaker 11 That is the epitome of rooting for a team that's owned by Dan Snyder.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Is he will make your scouts and your front office draft a guy because he knew him when he was 15 years old.

Speaker 11 I mean, that is what the football team has been about in recent history. And then there are reports like that people in the war room wanted to throw up during draft night.
I love that.

Speaker 74 I wish that

Speaker 83 they're the same people who threw up when they saw Teddy Bridgewater's knee.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you know what? Puke. Don't tell me that you thought about puking.
I want to hear the report.

Speaker 73 You're being what they call extra, okay?

Speaker 40 Right. It's very extra.

Speaker 84 Oh, I'm going to be dramatic, drama queen.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm going to puke.

Speaker 55 So the first one.

Speaker 11 I bet you if somebody had puked, they wouldn't have drafted him.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 52 They would have been like, oh, my God.

Speaker 52 Maybe that would have been the start of the coronavirus.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 74 What's going on?

Speaker 11 Or maybe they would have just ran out the clock of their pick like the Vikings.

Speaker 79 They're like, oh, shit, our draft partners covered in vomit.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think he'll get at least one more chance, but who knows?

Speaker 19 Because the list, well, the list now of quarterbacks who were drafted in the first round in the last 25 years and cut by their team before winning four games, Achilles Smith, Johnny Menzel, Paxton Lynch, Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 55 So I wouldn't.

Speaker 31 Like, there's a chance that he won't get another chance.

Speaker 11 Oh, he's absolutely getting another.

Speaker 43 He's football Patsy Lynch and Johnny Menzel did not get another chance.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but Dwayne Haskins is a little bit different. He's football young.
He was good enough.

Speaker 74 Okay, wait, wait.

Speaker 34 He was good enough in college.

Speaker 11 And Johnny Menzel was a different story, too. Like, you can't say that Johnny Menzel washed out because he wasn't good at football.

Speaker 6 No, but Dwayne Haskins has other things besides football that got him cut.

Speaker 86 Yeah, he loves strippers. Right.

Speaker 27 He's corny.

Speaker 87 So when I say he gets another chance, I agree that

Speaker 31 he will be in a camp or something.

Speaker 12 Do you think he will start another football game in the NFL?

Speaker 51 Yes, he will start.

Speaker 90 He will start.

Speaker 11 I don't. It might be a situation where he's a backup and gets in at a starting point because of an injury.
Carry make it interesting?

Speaker 88 All these guys, like the amount of turnover and how quickly you can just be done, it's fast now.

Speaker 74 Well, all the old guys aren't going to retire.

Speaker 2 So like Tom Brady and Phil Rivers and Drew Brees, they're never going to retire.

Speaker 47 Big Ben.

Speaker 42 I don't think there's a lot of seats at the table left.

Speaker 60 There aren't, but he'll think about all the backups.

Speaker 11 He will start. I guarantee you.

Speaker 11 I will bet you $1,000 that he will start another game.

Speaker 47 Think about all the backups that are now

Speaker 2 going to be looking for a job next year.

Speaker 15 You would take Dwayne Haskins over Marcus Mariota?

Speaker 12 I wouldn't.

Speaker 74 Are you talking to me, personally?

Speaker 11 Jameis Marinota. Absolutely not.

Speaker 45 Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 11 James Winston, yeah, I'd take him too. Yeah,

Speaker 2 Mitch Trubisky is going to be out there, which I know everyone's going to laugh, but someone will take a chance at him.

Speaker 39 I'd take him over

Speaker 11 Dwayne Haskins, yeah.

Speaker 40 I think it's going to be...

Speaker 84 Look how, dude, Josh Rosen's never going to play another game.

Speaker 11 I think we've seen enough from Josh. I think the body of evidence on Josh Rosen.

Speaker 40 We've We've seen about the exact same.

Speaker 11 What, 12 games out of Dwayne Haskins?

Speaker 34 Yeah, Joshua.

Speaker 27 Josh has more than that.

Speaker 73 Not by a lot.

Speaker 11 Well, the Dwayne Haskins stat lines are very similar to Josh Rosenstein.

Speaker 60 Very.

Speaker 11 He had a couple games where he threw like 350 yards, but like, yes, he's bad. But the fact that he only played 12 games in college and like 14 games in the NFL,

Speaker 11 and his arm is good enough where there'll be a coach that's like, I can fix this man.

Speaker 11 He's got the raw materials. I'll break him down.
I mean, if Urban Meyer gets into the NFL, he's definitely going to bring Dwayne Haskins along as a backup.

Speaker 13 I'm just saying it's more,

Speaker 54 it's not as guaranteed as it used to be.

Speaker 6 I normally would have been like, oh, yeah, he'll definitely get another shot.

Speaker 2 He's a first-round pick.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's as guaranteed as it used to be.

Speaker 45 They've played Josh Rosen and Dwayne Haskins have played the exact same number of games.

Speaker 11 But Josh Rosen went to college for, what, like, three years?

Speaker 57 But they played the exact same number of games in the NFL.

Speaker 11 But Dwayne Haskins will definitely. And I mean, Josh Rosen has gotten like four more shots after he got

Speaker 64 cut by the

Speaker 11 trust me. Dwayne Haskins, he'll start a game.
It'll be awesome.

Speaker 95 I don't know. It'll be interesting.

Speaker 89 I'm not like guaranteeing that.

Speaker 11 I don't think Dwayne Haskins will get a starting job, but he'll definitely get a backup job that will lead to a start at some point.

Speaker 88 Okay, yeah, I could buy that.

Speaker 45 He will never be named starter for a season again.

Speaker 11 Probably not.

Speaker 51 Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 41 Okay.

Speaker 11 I think you and I were arguing two separate things.

Speaker 18 Yeah, well, i still would say that i would say it's more likely than not that he does not start another game in the nfl i really think that it's it it can go a lot faster than people realize at this point with how many how close college and the nfl are together in terms of like the play calling and they've they've come together a lot more and how many quarterbacks we see in the draft every single year like flooding the nfl rosters how quickly they turn over there'll be one coach though because coaches fall in love with arms so easily And Dwayne Haskins has an arm that there'll definitely be a coach be like, oh my God, if I can harness the power of his arm,

Speaker 11 I can ride this all the way to like a Super Bowl. But Dwayne Haskins is not,

Speaker 11 he does not have what it takes to be a full-time starter.

Speaker 4 I'm more saying that I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't get another starting job ever again in the NFL.

Speaker 6 And it wouldn't be because of anything besides Dwayne Haskins kind of fucking himself over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Because I think that this is how the NFL works now, where they just, they burn through guys fast.

Speaker 13 They will move fast on a guy, and it it will be over.

Speaker 11 I think if you went back and listened to the show that we did when he came in like in the third quarter, the middle of the third quarter against the Giants last year for his first reps in the NFL, we said, like, okay, Washington is Jay Gruden is absolutely putting him out there to show Dan Snyder that this guy sucks.

Speaker 11 Please don't make me play him. At the time, people thought that we were crazy for saying that, but I think that just demonstrates our deep knowledge of Dan Snyder and the Gruden family.

Speaker 64 Yes, yes.

Speaker 16 So, Dwayne Hassens, who knows what's going to happen.

Speaker 63 Then, the other news,

Speaker 97 I'm trying to think, oh, the Cubs are doing a fire sale.

Speaker 50 That fucking sucks. Whatever.

Speaker 13 The Padres are going to be.

Speaker 6 The Padres are basically getting loaded so that they can finish second to the Dodgers again.

Speaker 11 I know this makes no sense, but you could put an all-star team on the Padres, and I would just assume that they would finish second place.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they're going to finish second place to the Dodgers.

Speaker 11 They have the sweetest uniforms of baseball.

Speaker 19 They do, and they got the vibe going in Slam Diego.

Speaker 86 The Cubs are going to start dipping into very hateable in terms of the ownership territory very, very soon because I have a feeling they're going to do a fire sale and make everyone pay for their shitty TV network.

Speaker 72 They're going to make everyone pay for like all the new bars and Wrigley and everything, and they're going to suck on the field.

Speaker 42 So that was the other story.

Speaker 39 Anything else?

Speaker 11 Yeah, do you want to get mad about rankings real quick?

Speaker 46 Sure.

Speaker 11 We can get mad about rankings because ESPN just put out their list of the top 28 teams to ever make the college football playoffs.

Speaker 11 So they've college football playoff to the college football playoffs over the years.

Speaker 9 Number one.

Speaker 52 Wait, I'd rather go the other way.

Speaker 11 Do you want to start?

Speaker 11 Let's do

Speaker 11 top 10.

Speaker 6 No, I want to know 28's got to be

Speaker 49 Michigan State or Washington?

Speaker 11 Okay, the worst team to ever make it's 2015, Michigan State.

Speaker 101 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 64 That makes sense.

Speaker 11 And then 27

Speaker 90 Washington.

Speaker 11 Notre Dame from 2018.

Speaker 39 Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 36 When they got 30 to 3.

Speaker 11 They got their shit kicked by Clay Clemson.

Speaker 11 And then Notre Dame. Wow, Notre Dame's kind of like a dynasty here.
Notre Dame's at 26 also. Okay.
But that's this year's Notre Dame team. Okay.
That's pretty disrespectful to Randy.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's very mean. 26 to having not played in the college football playoffs yet.

Speaker 66 Okay.

Speaker 11 Then we've got Oklahoma from last year.

Speaker 102 I think that's kind of like

Speaker 11 if you played against LSU in this, you're going to be docked.

Speaker 10 You're going to be at the end.

Speaker 11 And then 2016,

Speaker 11 Ohio State is number 24. So let's skip to the top five now because there's a lot of teams in between.

Speaker 20 It's just Alabama and Clemson.

Speaker 57 Let's see.

Speaker 19 Oh, no, Ohio State when they won it.

Speaker 11 Top five.

Speaker 11 Number five, 2018, Alabama.

Speaker 11 They went 14-1.

Speaker 11 Number four, 2016, Clemson, when they beat Alabama in the Natty. Then 2017, Alabama.
Then 2018, Clemson. And then LSU, number one.

Speaker 57 Oh, wow.

Speaker 6 So Ohio State was, what, six?

Speaker 11 Ohio State was six. Yeah.

Speaker 103 Okay.

Speaker 9 Well, that's. But yeah, I think

Speaker 48 that was a snake eating its tail there.

Speaker 11 Eight out of the top ten are just Clemson, Alabama.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I mean, they're better than everyone.

Speaker 72 It happens every single year.

Speaker 13 Anything else I'm trying to remember?

Speaker 19 I think that's it.

Speaker 72 We just got Bull Mania, Cheez-It Bull.

Speaker 13 We're taping this right before the Cheez-It Bowl, but just a reminder that the 2018 Cheez-It Bowl is one of the worst, best games I've ever seen.

Speaker 13 No, best, worst games I've ever seen in my entire life with nine interceptions.

Speaker 19 I was going back through it today to try to remember it and going through tweets.

Speaker 33 The

Speaker 48 quarterback for TCU went seven for 20 with four interceptions, 27 yards, and he actually got benched for a play by a guy who had drop foot, which is paralysis in your foot.

Speaker 19 It was incredible.

Speaker 18 I remember watching it and being like, what is going on?

Speaker 11 It sounds like a disease that you get in the trenches of World War I.

Speaker 9 It was crazy. And then someone sent me a screenshot this morning.

Speaker 45 It was so funny.

Speaker 17 The progression, the quarterback for TCU, which they won the game, by the way.

Speaker 85 The quarterback for TCU was like four for 15 for 10 yards and four interceptions.

Speaker 42 And then like a quarter later, he was five for 17 for eight yards.

Speaker 53 So he went backwards in yards in one more completion.

Speaker 101 I also remember they put a graphic up of like the quarterback that they brought in.

Speaker 9 And it was like one of his legs doesn't work.

Speaker 59 Right.

Speaker 39 One of his legs doesn't work.

Speaker 45 And there was a moment in time where the TCU and the Cal quarterbacks were the only two quarterbacks in all of Division I who were seniors on their roster playing in a game when they had never started a game for the team that they were on.

Speaker 19 It was insane.

Speaker 31 It was absolutely insane.

Speaker 21 So, yeah.

Speaker 45 One more thing.

Speaker 11 Jim Schwartz, it looks like, is trying. He's put himself in a position of temporary interim head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 55 Oh, nice.

Speaker 11 Because he gave a press conference and he was talking about

Speaker 11 what they have to do this weekend on Sunday night. And he said, we've got to have a no-hat rule this week.
So no hats. They're not allowing hats in the building because they shot at Carson Wentz.

Speaker 11 Because they don't want to have the Washington football team go into their house and then put a division champion hat on right after the game. So they're leading by example.
T-shirt and hacking.

Speaker 11 No hats. I don't like that, though.
I feel like...

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, you guys are screwed.

Speaker 75 I'm scary.

Speaker 13 Well, also, I mean, if Carson Wentz plays now, you're really fucked because Carson Wentz, if you take away his backwards hat, he's a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 11 But if he goes forward.

Speaker 70 Well, no, he's not wearing a hat.

Speaker 75 He can't wear a hat.

Speaker 11 I don't know. I still have the mindset that the more Carson Wentz tries to do, the worse he is.
No.

Speaker 38 The more Carson Wentz. I don't want Carson Wentz.

Speaker 11 I do want an extreme version of Carson Wentz.

Speaker 38 I want the most

Speaker 11 Carson Wentz version of Carson Wentz possible.

Speaker 52 All right, let's do our best of.

Speaker 42 So we got a bunch of great stuff.

Speaker 13 We'll go in and out explaining it. First up, we have Tim the Tatman, brand new interview.

Speaker 1 We've never talked about it.

Speaker 69 We've never had an air before.

Speaker 19 Great interview with Tim the Tapman, streamer extraordinaire.

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Speaker 80 Okay, here he is, Tim the Tapman.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on very special guest.

Speaker 13 It is Tim the Tapman. You know him.
He is a very famous person on Twitch,

Speaker 36 streamer, video game guy.

Speaker 20 You might have actually found out about him through the Fall Guys

Speaker 13 situation that you had a couple months ago, which was electric.

Speaker 6 That's how I first saw you on my radar.

Speaker 45 Tim, thank you for having us on, Tim, or thank you for coming on.

Speaker 106 Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 102 It's great to, we've been trying to set this up for a while.

Speaker 50 So

Speaker 63 we're trying to broaden our horizons, get more involved in the Twitch.

Speaker 31 Can you, can we start like from the top, like your, your history, your story, how you got into all this?

Speaker 106 Yeah, yeah, sure, absolutely. So I started,

Speaker 106 I started streaming. I heard about Twitch about eight years ago, right? And

Speaker 106 I used to watch Soda Poppin, who's still a very large streamer. And I watched him years ago.
And I was like, man, this is kind of cool. This guy's just like playing video games and hanging out.

Speaker 106 And there's like a chat room and stuff like that. And

Speaker 106 so I was like, I want to try that. So I built my very first streaming PC about eight years ago now.
It was 800 bucks. And

Speaker 106 I just started kind of doing it casually on the side. And I was working, I was working full time, 40, 50 hours a week, just doing the normal thing and just kind of streaming like 20 or 30 on the side.

Speaker 106 And then

Speaker 106 after a while, you know, I finally got my sub button and I started being able to make some money on it. And I was like, oh, dude, this is, this is cool.

Speaker 106 And then I'll never forget one day I was sitting there. I was like, man, I'm making more money on the side than I am in my full-time thing.
I was like, shoot, maybe I should give this a shot. Right.

Speaker 106 And I still won't forget. I went in and I talked to my boss and I was was like, hey, I appreciate you guys all a lot.
This is great, but I think I got to take a chance here. And God did.

Speaker 106 And, you know, here I am now,

Speaker 106 seven years later. I've been full-time for almost seven years now.
So it's, but it all just started as a hobby and it was a lot smaller back then, bro, a lot smaller.

Speaker 11 So when you were coming up and playing video games your whole life, I would imagine, were you always like an entertaining person while you were playing video games?

Speaker 11 Or were you like when you started, were you kind of quiet and then you got good at talking shit? And then you were like, hey, maybe I should be broadcasting this.

Speaker 106 Yeah, no, I always, I was always pretty vocal, my friends will tell you, no matter what I played.

Speaker 106 I actually, I still, I have not played a game of Madden since I was 15 because I got so mad at one of my friends because I'm a big Cowboys fan, obviously. And he's an Eagles fan.

Speaker 106 And he was the Eagles and I was the Cowboys and I was losing. 52 to 6 at half.
And he was just, I wasn't even saying anything. I was so mad.
I like freaked out. I like threw my controller.

Speaker 106 I threw my phone into a wall. It was a whole thing.
And,

Speaker 106 but I've always just

Speaker 106 had to like express myself whenever I played, whether it's Call of Duty or Counter-Strike or a sports game like Madden, you know. But I guess I've always just kind of been that way my whole life.

Speaker 106 You know, I wouldn't, I don't know if I ever thought it was entertaining, though. It was just kind of what I did.

Speaker 62 You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 There's definitely something to be said for like guys who are fun to play video games with.

Speaker 11 I've got friends that are very fun and then some friends that are probably better, but not as fun to play video games with.

Speaker 106 and i'm always going to choose the person who's like better at shit talking you know exactly yeah right you want to you want to you know there's times where we would come home from work and we just play call of duty and just kind of you know you have you hang out it's it's not as serious right even if we're not winning we're still having a good time right i think and there's a lot to be said about that man to just kind of decompress after work and stuff and just hanging out you know what i mean so so uh you you you tell the story about you know quitting your job that's an awesome moment anyone who bets on themselves you you know, PFTA, actually, everyone in this room has kind of had that similar moment of like, hey, we're not going to do the traditional job.

Speaker 62 We're going to give this a go.

Speaker 31 But what was the moment where you realized, oh, fuck, this is actually kind of a career here.

Speaker 18 Like, this is being a video game player is now a legit career.

Speaker 106 Yeah, I really, it was.

Speaker 106 It was around the time I was going full time. Like I said, I was kind of, it was at a point where I was working less out on the side, but I was making more money.

Speaker 106 I was like, okay, well, wait, maybe I got something that I could take a shot here. But even when I did that, I'll never forget.

Speaker 106 I was talking to my dad and he was like, well, you got to be careful, have something to fall back on just in case.

Speaker 106 And I did, you know, I did understandably because, I mean, that long ago, people were making money playing video games, but it wasn't anywhere near the level of money that we're looking at.

Speaker 106 Now, I, I, I haven't seen industry grow. I mean, to be fair, I was younger, right?

Speaker 106 But growing up in this video game industry and seeing like the amount of money that a lot of these, a lot of these young kids even even are making now is is crazy it's crazy to see it's like it's almost a flip right when i was younger my dad was like get off those video games go work you know go play outside now now you got so impressed that are like get out of that video game quick it's like a it's a weird dynamic now or kind of flipped around but it really was around that time that i went when i for me personally it was that at that moment where i was kind of making more you know playing video games entertaining on the side and i was like i think this could actually be something here and i want to give it a shot yeah did you have any moments at your your at your old real job where while you were working gaining popularity, like somebody from

Speaker 11 your side universe that knew you from your streams brought that into your real orbit in the office or something like that.

Speaker 11 And you had to kind of weigh your popularity offline versus what you're doing like in an office environment or whatever your job was.

Speaker 106 Yeah,

Speaker 106 nothing like that ever really happened. at work.

Speaker 106 I had gotten recognized a little bit while I was still working, but it wasn't at work necessarily. And all my coworkers obviously knew what I did.

Speaker 106 And so it was kind of this thing where, you know, they were just kind of joking around like, oh, Tim, he plays video games for a living, blah, blah, blah. And,

Speaker 106 but at that point in my, in my career, I've been recognized maybe

Speaker 106 a handful of times at that point, you know, because I'm from Syracuse, New York, which is

Speaker 106 a smaller town. And I, I, you know, I mean, it's not super, super small, but it's a smaller city, right? And so I got recognized a couple of times, like a real small handful of times.

Speaker 106 And part of that, too, is because I didn't really go out much, right? I was working 40, I was streaming 30.

Speaker 106 And then if I had time on the side, I was trying to hang out with some friends, stuff like that, you know, when I was a lot younger.

Speaker 106 So, um, but no, not really at work necessarily, but around that time, there were people that were starting to recognize me in the Syracuse area.

Speaker 54 So, where do you rank on the skill-based level?

Speaker 43 Because, like, the fall guys is a perfect example where I think, yeah, and maybe, yeah, maybe I'm, I'm, I'm new to streaming, understanding it, but it does feel like there are exceptional video game players and there are the people that are a fun hang and really entertaining.

Speaker 6 And it seems like this isn't a knock on your video game skills, but would you say you fall into that category?

Speaker 106 I definitely fall in the category of more fun to play with. And I understand that.

Speaker 106 It's a weird dynamic, though, because I've always, my chat always called me like a wild card, right? You kind of never know what you're going to get. out of base play for me.

Speaker 106 Every once in a while, there's this weird, you know, version of me when I'm playing that just like almost like transcends. And I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing, right?

Speaker 106 And there's times where I've clutched up in pretty crazy moments.

Speaker 106 And you know, even with something like Fortnite, like I have some earnings in Fortnite, I have earnings in Warzone from tournaments, right?

Speaker 106 Not just my stream, but when you look at me compared to a lot of these guys that are way, way, way up here, obviously, I'm a lot less skilled than them, you know.

Speaker 106 But the reality is, I'm playing with these guys like Nick, Swag, Cloaksy. These guys all got, excuse me, microphone.
These all, these guys all got what five plus KDs, maybe like four, five-ish.

Speaker 106 I'm sitting around a 2-7.

Speaker 106 So like, if you put me against like 13-year-old me, I would have kicked my ass.

Speaker 111 Wait, what's KD?

Speaker 31 What's KD?

Speaker 106 Oh, KD, KD's kill-death ratio. So it's like for every, for every time, like, Cloaksy's alive, he'll get five kills before he dies.
Right. Does that make sense?

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 106 So like for me, that's kind of the base that a lot of people do with Warzone to kind of tell where you're at. So like for me, I'm a 2-7, which means for me, usually 2.7 every time I die.

Speaker 106 Average normal for most is around a one.

Speaker 43 What about now?

Speaker 16 I mean, I haven't played Call of Duty in a couple of years, but I was like a negative three, I think.

Speaker 106 That's, you know, that's not bad.

Speaker 96 Yeah, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 11 I played Warzone for the very first time last night. I jumped out of the plane, got my parachute caught in a tree, and then I fell on the ground and died immediately.
What is it?

Speaker 11 That's a negative, is that just a negative one?

Speaker 63 That's the absolute.

Speaker 106 That's a negative one. So I guess that's your KD KD.

Speaker 11 It's an efficient negative one, though, because it was so fast.

Speaker 108 Right.

Speaker 111 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 106 Time played is impressive, right? It's like, man, this guy played for like five seconds and he's got a negative one KD already.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 11 What advice would you give to somebody hypothetically who is just starting to play Warzone if you could give them like two pieces of advice to be the best Warzone player that they could be?

Speaker 106 That's kind of a good question, actually.

Speaker 106 Great question.

Speaker 106 I would say

Speaker 106 don't. So a lot of us guys, they always see us dropping superstore, right? They see us landing at these hot spots and just getting in.
If I was starting, I would land a way out, you know what I mean?

Speaker 106 Um, because battle royales have obviously been a genre that have been around for a very long time now.

Speaker 106 I remember Arma 3 battle royale, this is six, seven years ago that I played it, and then you got games like H1Z1, which kind of came from it.

Speaker 106 And I'd always played like battle royales, and I'd always like the concept.

Speaker 106 But when I first started, I was always like, okay, let's just go far away, try try and like get myself situated and then let's make our way in whereas now in warzone i'm just like okay hop right in the middle you got 25 people landing on you and it's crazy right i like that advice like just take it slow be a coward i can use that advice i can lean into that

Speaker 106 i don't know if coward you know maybe maybe be uh intellectual with your positioning that's how i'll frame that yeah be really extra smart

Speaker 11 is it possible to win an entire battle royale without firing a shot because that's what i want to try to do We did it in Fortnite.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I finished like third in Fortnite once with just hiding in a bush.

Speaker 20 Yeah, that's what I want to do.

Speaker 106 Fortnite, we made it happen. Warzone, I think, would be a lot, a lot harder.
I don't even know if we ever tried that in Warzone because Warzone's gunplay is so much.

Speaker 106 I mean, obviously in Fortnite, it's like you get shot and you just kind of like build, right? And there's less, I would say, like... PPP kind of gunplay compared to Warzone.

Speaker 106 Warzone would be really hard to not win without a shot.

Speaker 106 We did win one where we only used like melee cali sticks we did that but so technically we didn't shoot cali sticks is like a uh you run around with these two sticks yeah and you just kind of pop pop and yeah you just like hit uh so we actually actually we might have gotten second i don't even know if we went with that it was we were really close with that though but that was really hard because you got guys if these guys know what they're doing and they you know most of the time they do and they have guns and we don't i mean it's that's kind of that's what i might try to do i might try to be a pacifist in warzone and see see how far get the riot get the riot shield out and just kind of hold the i you know i gotta tell you i've seen a lot of guys in the end game with just a riot shield just walking around because no one could kill them yeah um something to say there you know this is kind of it might be a boring question but i'm always you know interested in just day-to-day like what is your schedule like what do you do so

Speaker 106 i'm typically up around six or seven i have a kid uh my son he's he's a little less than two um so he's usually up bright and early right

Speaker 106 yeah yeah i mean so you get it you're it's like they're up you're up you know what i mean it's like hey time to the day is starting for everyone it's five o'clock so um you know six or seven is usually when i get up i've been i've been trying to look after my health a bit so i'll try and go for like a little run mile to three on a really good day you know what i mean um and uh and then usually

Speaker 106 get some coffee in me and I'm usually going live around nine or 10 in the morning.

Speaker 106 And then typically I'll go till about five or six, straight through and straight through.

Speaker 106 You know, times obviously you'll get up, walk around, but I'm not, I wouldn't say I'm gone for like an extended period. It's, you know how like, I think back when I used to work at a warehouse, right?

Speaker 106 It's like I had a 15, 20 minute break where I just kind of walked away and just didn't, I don't, you don't have anything like that necessarily, obviously, but like if I got to get up and get something to eat really quick, I'll just go grab something, come back.

Speaker 106 And then, and then, so then I'm streaming from about 10 to five, 10 to 6 on a long day. And then, you know, sometimes

Speaker 106 a lot of times actually I'll, you know, meetings, something, you know, something like this, obviously. And this, I just shut my stream off and now here I am doing this, right?

Speaker 106 So there's a lot of stuff surprisingly that happens off the stream that a lot of people obviously don't see when you're not live.

Speaker 22 Right. Right.

Speaker 106 But then, dude, I'm freaking, you know, usually like after this, I'll just go get some dinner, maybe a steak or something, and then relax for a little bit, hour or two.

Speaker 106 Sometimes I play a video game off stream. That's a funny conversation with my wife.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 106 Because, yeah, because I, it's, it's hard to explain, but like when I'm playing, when I'm streaming, for example, I just got done with Fortnite.

Speaker 106 I was playing Fortnite for about four or five hours there with Nick. And

Speaker 106 when, when, when I get off stream, you know, I have like different games that I kind of, I chill out with more. Uh, you guys ever hear World of Warcraft? You know what that game is?

Speaker 106 I love WoW, but I don't typically stream it as much just because it's not in my, I guess you could say, wheelhouse of how I entertain, if you will. Right.

Speaker 106 There'll be times I'll be like, F it, I'm just going to stream it, you know, but it was always how, here's what I always tell people is World of Warcraft, I've been playing since I was 13.

Speaker 106 It's always how I

Speaker 106 defragged, right? So it's like I'd work, come home from work, hop on wow for like an hour or two and go to bed, right? So now sometimes I'm playing eight hours a day.

Speaker 106 Then I get off and I'm like, all right, you know, hang out with my, hang out with my son for a little bit, put him to bed. It's like, all right, I'm going to go.

Speaker 27 I've never played some wild eyes.

Speaker 80 I mean, like, porn stars have sex, right?

Speaker 34 After they shoot porn.

Speaker 106 That's right. right.
Right.

Speaker 111 That's right. Exactly.

Speaker 108 I've never thought of it that way.

Speaker 60 Yeah, you make love to Wow.

Speaker 27 Right.

Speaker 11 Or fucking during the day. Right.

Speaker 113 And then you're making love to Wow at night.

Speaker 108 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 106 Yeah. I mean, that's a good way to look at it.
I mean, absolutely. But yeah, that's usually my

Speaker 106 day in, day out kind of thing.

Speaker 31 And is it seven days a week?

Speaker 15 Or do you take a day off?

Speaker 106 No, man. I'm actually, so a lot of these streamers, a lot of them go hard for a really long time.

Speaker 106 I've always, always taken two days off. And I think that's been great for me.

Speaker 106 I see a lot of, there's a ton of burnout, as funny as it is to say, a lot of people, a lot of people looking outside in, they look at something like this as a job and they kind of laugh at it.

Speaker 106 Like, how would you burn out? All you're doing is playing video games all day, right? But there's a lot of people, man, just like mental burnouts that are just, they're done.

Speaker 106 I think a big part of why I've been able to do this for so long is I have a pretty healthy balance, man.

Speaker 106 I'll take two days off a week usually, with the exception of if something big is going on, I might hop out on a weekend or something like that. But usually Saturdays, Sundays, I'm off.

Speaker 106 And then in summers, too,

Speaker 106 I'll take like a week family vacation, you know, and not a lot, not a ton of these streamers. I mean, to be fair, a lot of them are kids, right? But it's like,

Speaker 106 I got my family, my wife, my kid, and I'll,

Speaker 106 you know,

Speaker 106 take them on a vacation, just completely disconnect for a week and go hang out at Disney, Orlando, whatever.

Speaker 106 And just, you know, relax. And I think there's a big, a big, you know, testament to that.
But, you know, usually five days a week, though.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, that's cool.

Speaker 31 I mean, that's, it's interesting just to hear because you really, it's a job.

Speaker 20 You know what I mean?

Speaker 53 You love it, but it's also a job.

Speaker 13 It really is like a, here's my, I'm working a schedule just like anyone else who works.

Speaker 11 I mean, in addition to the porn star thing, that's like us watching sports and talking about sports. And then we go home and we watch sports and we talk about sports.
Right, right.

Speaker 11 But it's different because we're not, people aren't hearing us through it. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 11 this might be a dumb question, but do you do eye exercises?

Speaker 27 I actually, I don't.

Speaker 106 Not a dumb question. And my eyes have gotten worse since I've been playing for so long.
I will say that too. It's not, it's not to a point where I don't have any glasses.

Speaker 106 Basically, when I started, I was 20, 20 for a really long time. And now I'm,

Speaker 106 my, my vision's not as good as it was. I can tell.
Like, there's, cause I'm staring at the screen all day, right? I'm looking here, I'm looking here.

Speaker 106 And then I like go to look at my TV and it's like way far away. And I'm like, what the heck? And I've definitely gotten to that point now where I don't know if it's old age combo.

Speaker 106 You know, I'm 30 now. I don't know if it's that comboed with, you know, playing for eight hours a day, but I don't actually do eye exercises.

Speaker 106 What I will say is, um, you know, if I don't play WoW or something, I try not to stare at a screen as much. Even on my phone, I try not to like be on my phone a ton.

Speaker 106 Like, just try to give my eyes a little, a little break at least.

Speaker 11 You know, do you dream about video games?

Speaker 34 I mean, sometimes, bro, sometimes there's, I, I, are you good in those?

Speaker 21 Like, are you

Speaker 21 as good? Cause you're not in real life.

Speaker 61 Right.

Speaker 60 That's, that's the dream, right?

Speaker 106 It's, it's, you know, thinking about, oh man, I just, I just, I squad wiped him so easy. No, I, I, I, I will, I'll dream about like World of Warcraft once in a while.

Speaker 106 Even times when I was playing a ton of Fortnite, I dream about Fortnite. It's weird, man.
But I think that's kind of how it is with anything that you're kind of consumed with, right?

Speaker 106 You'll, you'll, you'll go to bed and your subconscious will be thinking about, you know, whatever it is that, you know, you're super, super obsessed with, you know, and I mean, video games for me, I'd always played my whole life.

Speaker 106 I'd always loved them. And it was a constant battle with me and my dad saying, get off the the video games.
But

Speaker 106 here we are, man, able to turn a blood, you know, turn my, turn my obsession into a job, thankfully.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So we got a, so one of the guys who works here is a huge, huge fan.

Speaker 117 Like, he actually, when we were getting ready to interview you, he pulled me aside.

Speaker 72 He was like, I've been a Tim Tapman fan forever.

Speaker 15 I'm going to send you guys a list.

Speaker 40 So he sent us a list.

Speaker 19 Some of these questions we don't even really like know what they mean, but can we fire off a few of this?

Speaker 106 Yeah, yeah. This will be interesting because I'll be able to kind of tell.

Speaker 37 Yeah, this is what like your hardcore fans probably want to hear.

Speaker 43 How much money do you make

Speaker 95 after taxes?

Speaker 106 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 106 I don't even know about that.

Speaker 34 No, I'm just kidding. That wasn't a real question.

Speaker 27 Well, you know what's funny?

Speaker 119 I don't even know off the top of my head, bro, because that's all my business manager.

Speaker 34 Yeah, no, no, that wasn't a real question.

Speaker 57 All right.

Speaker 83 I was about to go through why you should, why you should buy a Jeep over a Tesla?

Speaker 106 Oh, well, I mean, let's start with the, you know, the base minimum, right?

Speaker 106 Jeeps are cooler, right? Just, you know, you can take the doors off. You can take the tops off.
One thing I love about my Jeep,

Speaker 106 so I drive Wranglers and I have a gladiator.

Speaker 106 And you'll never see like one or two Jeeps that are the same because there's so much like customization on them, bro.

Speaker 11 One guy's got the Dave Matthews sticker in the top right-hand corner.

Speaker 58 One guy has the

Speaker 74 flag on the back of the tire.

Speaker 57 No, you're right.

Speaker 60 You're tall, bro.

Speaker 108 I'm a huge Dave fan, too, so that's funny.

Speaker 106 But yeah, I, dude, and, you know, if there's like a zombie apocalypse or something like that, and there's like a Tesla that is like, let's say, abandoned on the side of the road, right?

Speaker 106 Hypothetically, you know, you disconnect your sway bar, you're in a Jeep, bro. You just go right over it.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 106 So there's a lot of benefits, you know, but ultimately, Jeeps are just superior in every way, shape, and form.

Speaker 11 It's tough to quit dipping if you're driving a Jeep, though. Because you're going, first of all, you're outdoors at the time.
Second of all, you're going to gas stations.

Speaker 11 Our good friend, Blake Bortles, purchased a Tesla just so that he would stop going to gas stations to buy dip all the time.

Speaker 90 Really? He still dips. It didn't work.

Speaker 30 Spoiler.

Speaker 106 I don't know if the Tesla worked then, bro.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's an expensive method of quitting Copenhagen.

Speaker 106 Yeah, cold turkey might have been a little

Speaker 106 better, you know, found a wallet.

Speaker 30 But what are you going to do?

Speaker 11 Here's another question that we got sent.

Speaker 11 How much taller are you than Nick Merckx?

Speaker 106 Oh,

Speaker 106 how tall do you guys think he is?

Speaker 11 I think he's my height because he's

Speaker 11 because he says that he's 5'11 ⁇ , 6 feet. I'm 5'8.5.

Speaker 106 Okay.

Speaker 106 Yeah, he's right around there, 5'8, 5'9.

Speaker 96 Okay.

Speaker 21 So you tell me, how tall are you?

Speaker 106 It depends on the shoes I'm wearing, but I'm around 6'3.

Speaker 108 Okay.

Speaker 106 6'1 on a really good day. 6'1 on a good day.
I'm over 6'0, though.

Speaker 33 I have no idea how tall you are.

Speaker 60 You just gave us three different heights.

Speaker 57 Dude, if you're over 6'feet, you don't have to lie.

Speaker 111 You know that.

Speaker 27 I'm over 6'5.

Speaker 57 I don't have to lie. I'm six two and a half

Speaker 106 i am i am over six foot and uh nick is just he's just just ever so under six foot and he really can't accept it it's crazy okay could you beat him up in a fight

Speaker 106 that'd be a hard fight bro it depends on the circumstances hey i mean he's uh you know he's and he's lifting right now heavy right now he kicked my ass probably i used to lift a lot back in the day but right now i'm kind of I'm getting into my old age, 30, you know, I'm running, you know, my legs right now are strong, but my, my, my, you know, my upper body's not there right now.

Speaker 106 So he'd probably, I could get a good hit, though.

Speaker 42 Yeah, what if you guys are both at your peak?

Speaker 121 Dude, you can beat that. That's a tough one.

Speaker 108 That's a really tough one, bro.

Speaker 106 I got hit with a Ford F-150 while I was running. What? And I and I popped up from it.
Yeah, I got hit. This guy blew a stop sign.
I was running. This was back when I was lifting a good amount.

Speaker 106 I was jogging, and the guy blew a stop sign.

Speaker 108 I kind of heard it last second.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 81 Go ahead, bro.

Speaker 55 I was going to say, are you sure this just wasn't GTA?

Speaker 106 No, I'm positive, bro.

Speaker 108 It's not.

Speaker 106 This was real life.

Speaker 26 So, no, tell the story.

Speaker 111 Tell the story. Yeah.

Speaker 106 So I was just, you know, jogging and the guy, I saw the truck. I had a stop sign.
So I was like, I'll just go through.

Speaker 106 He apparently blew the stop sign and he just like hit me. And my only reaction was to jump up and lean into it.
Thank God.

Speaker 106 Cause if I did, otherwise it probably would have like went over me and I'd be in a lot. A lot of different circumstances right now.
But

Speaker 106 I got hit and I popped up because I always played sports when I was younger. So my dad, I like heard my dad in my head like walk it off kind of thing, you know, like I didn't just get hit by a truck.

Speaker 106 So he hit me and

Speaker 106 popped up and the guy pulled over. And this is the funniest part to me, bro.
It's it's high noon on like a sunny December day in Syracuse. And I'm wearing a reflective jacket just for whatever reason.

Speaker 106 And the guy comes out of the, comes out of the truck. I'm six foot 250.
He goes, man, you came out of nowhere. I was like, oh, I was like,

Speaker 106 I came out of nowhere, bro. I don't I don't know where you were looking, but I was dead in the center of this intersection.

Speaker 108 But yeah, he

Speaker 106 yeah, he hit me good. And put like that didn't even knock me out.
You know what I mean? That kind of hit me. And I was like, oh, oh, shit.
And I just kind of popped up. But

Speaker 106 Peak, it'd be an interesting fight, bro.

Speaker 115 Sounds like you could win.

Speaker 74 Yeah. Sounds like you could win.

Speaker 53 Let's think Burks is a truck.

Speaker 11 You just said that you leaned into a truck. Yeah.

Speaker 108 I did. And

Speaker 106 it didn't knock me out. So I don't know.
But, you know, I mean, one good punch that could really kind of change your day. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 27 So who knows?

Speaker 96 That's true.

Speaker 11 Between you and Nick, if you guys were to play a game of Warzone,

Speaker 11 what's the BD ratio, the bros per death? How many bros do you let out during a game as compared to him? Because I know he's a big bro guy, too.

Speaker 106 Yeah,

Speaker 106 there's this whole running joke about how listening to a stream with me and him

Speaker 106 is just

Speaker 106 every other word is bro, bro, bro. I would say our average bro per death is probably about about six or seven, to be honest.
For me, it's probably

Speaker 106 higher than my, higher than my kill death, but him and I both, we just kind of, I don't know, bro has always been a, um, my whole life, it's just been a middle, middle of the road term, like middle conversation.

Speaker 106 You know what I mean? Just like, yeah, what's going on, bro? You know what I mean? That just rolls off the tongue. Uh, but I, I, that's funny you mentioned that.
Was that a question from the guy?

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 108 Did he ask that? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 106 Because we, we really, we say it way more than we probably should, bro.

Speaker 108 Oh, I just did it right there.

Speaker 21 That was it, bro.

Speaker 106 That was like a natural, right?

Speaker 106 That was like a natural time where it just rolled off the the tongue yeah it's a great word because you can be like what's up bro which is casual or you can be like bro which is like that's you've been betrayed if you let that one out depending on the inflection there's a lot of things that bro can mean you know what i mean bro yeah bro

Speaker 17 uh what's the meanest thing that the chat has said or like what's the thing that really makes them mad or you makes you mad that makes me mad

Speaker 106 which is a dumb thing for me to answer by the way i've yeah right i've i've heard everything i mean well i bro i'm wearing this uh i'm wearing so this is Ninja's new hoodie, and I'm wearing this today.

Speaker 106 And they're all spamming Jigglypuff cosplay or Kirby cosplay. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 106 They just, any, anything, any kind of clothing I wear, anything besides like a black t-shirt, if I have a base black t-shirt on, I don't really hear anything.

Speaker 106 If I put any other color on, it's, I, I, I, it, I, it's unbelievable, bro.

Speaker 108 Anything I wear, they just kind of harp on it.

Speaker 106 And it's, it's, it's literally gotten to me a point where most of my wardrobe is just black t-shirts because I typically don't

Speaker 106 wear this today and it roasts me.

Speaker 123 It's crazy.

Speaker 43 You got to do it.

Speaker 43 I've slowly gotten into that zone too.

Speaker 13 Just wear black t-shirts all the time.

Speaker 106 That's slimming.

Speaker 108 It makes me look thinner. Very slimming.

Speaker 102 Do you, what's your relationship with the chat overall?

Speaker 78 Is it like, do you, you converse with them the entire time?

Speaker 6 Do you have like hardcore Tim the Tatman fans that you know and you recognize?

Speaker 40 How's that work?

Speaker 106 Yeah, so there's there's zeroers that I've seen since like day one. There's a couple guys that have been there for

Speaker 106 eight, eight-ish years now, I think. And

Speaker 106 so like, I usually, I don't know how, but I'll usually catch them in the chat when they're in there.

Speaker 106 But my relationship with my chat's good, man. We, we joke around a lot.

Speaker 106 At the beginning of my stream, I always talk, I always do like, it's almost like, I don't want to call it a podcast because it isn't, but it's like, it's called, I call it just chatting, right?

Speaker 106 I literally turn my stream on. Similarly, I'm just talking there in it's, you know, we're just bantering back and forth, but it's instead of like me talking to someone else, I'm talking to the chat.

Speaker 106 That makes sense. So it's like a little, a little bit bit of a different dynamic there.
But, you know, I started, I saw off every day with that. And it's just kind of how I ease into it.

Speaker 106 And I, I always say, I always say this, we joke around a lot and they roast me a lot, but I know they'd all have my back in a bar fight. That's what I always say.

Speaker 106 And any of my viewers that I met, I, you know, they would, they would come, you know, have a right hook out of nowhere if someone, you know, someone was trying to start something with me.

Speaker 106 And it kind of feels like a

Speaker 106 like a tight family where you can joke around with each other and not take each other too seriously and, you know, hang out at the same time. You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's awesome. Have you you ever done anything that's uh that's caused the chat to turn on you oh

Speaker 36 getting sus

Speaker 11 when you change your intro oh

Speaker 106 i when i change

Speaker 106 bro my intro man and the new one is just so much better but some of them are so locked in on the old intro i i just how could you do that how could you i really how how could i but it's like this these are clips from like seven or eight years ago it's like i'd like to change a little something at this point and then you know what you know what you know what my favorite part of the new intro is my old intro was three minutes long and it was like this little song that we made and it was really catchy.

Speaker 106 But the new intro, the thing is, it locked me into that three minute intro. Does that make sense? Right now, my new intro loops for eternity.

Speaker 106 So if I'm walking around the house, you know, just kind of easing into my day, I'm not. Basically, if I wasn't at my computer after three minutes, they're staring at a black screen.

Speaker 60 There's nothing there.

Speaker 106 So now it's like, I can leave that thing up for an hour, bro, whenever I want to come out. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 22 You have another 30 minutes.

Speaker 106 But yeah, the intro,

Speaker 106 you know, the old intro is great. And every once in a while, Whips, my head mod,

Speaker 106 he'll play the old intro just for a good measure. You know what I mean? Just give it to him a little bit and

Speaker 106 have them be happy.

Speaker 96 It's there.

Speaker 11 I can understand that, though. It's like at some point, that song, it stops becoming like a pump-up song for you in your own head.
It's like a clock ticking down to zero.

Speaker 11 And it becomes like anxiety, you know?

Speaker 106 I heard that song in my sleep still. I can hear that song in my sleep.

Speaker 87 I'm watching this video right now. So your son turned off your stream the other day.

Speaker 42 How, like, that, I mean, like I said, I have a son that's pretty much the same age, and all they do is just, if there's a button, he's pressing it.

Speaker 106 But yep, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 54 Literally and figuratively.

Speaker 74 But how do you, have you, like, at what point are you going to hope that your son's going to start playing video games with you?

Speaker 6 And is that weird to think, like, I'm a dad, but I'm also a professional video game player?

Speaker 106 Yeah, I've thought about that.

Speaker 106 I mean,

Speaker 106 I think a a lot of parents, some of them are kind of weary about, you know, televisions, iPads, stuff like that.

Speaker 106 Just like kind of giving it to a kid at a young age. I'm kind of the opposite.
And I don't know. I don't know if that's necessarily good, but I want him to, I'd love to play video games with him.

Speaker 106 I think that'd be great. I think about times when I was younger, and even though my dad didn't like video games, he would still sit down every once in a while and kind of play with me.

Speaker 106 And those are some, you know, really, you know, loving moments that I have in my own memory. So I'm really excited to have that happen with my own son.

Speaker 106 I will say that I'm planning on kicking his ass in video games for about as long as I can because there's probably going to come a point where he's going to be better than me, right?

Speaker 106 Because a lot of these kids, they're better than me right now. I can admit that.

Speaker 106 But

Speaker 106 I want him to think. I was like, oh, my dad's crazy good.
Right. Even though everyone else in the world is like, he's okay.
He's average. But now he beats me and everything.

Speaker 106 I think we're going to have a lot of great memories with that. I'm really excited for that.

Speaker 11 I love that. Yeah, that's great.
It's like most dads are afraid of the first time their kid beats them in basketball.

Speaker 11 Actually, that's what I'm going to do with with my kid eventually: I'm just going to beat the shit out of them in basketball when they're like five.

Speaker 11 And then so they'll retain that memory and they'll think, oh, my dad, my God, my dad is the best basketball player that ever had to do.

Speaker 106 He could almost be in the NBA, right?

Speaker 118 All right, I had one last question for you.

Speaker 10 The Cowboys.

Speaker 21 Let's talk about the Cowboys.

Speaker 43 Oh, let me do this.

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Speaker 62 Equal housing opportunity all right the cowboys the cowboys

Speaker 106 cowboys the cowboys fucking suck dude it's a hard year man it's a hard year um it's been a hard year which year are you talking about the last 20 yeah right

Speaker 106 i was about to say it's been a hard one it's been a hard it's been a hard long time i uh i you know i was i was three and four i was born in 90 so i was i i vaguely remember 94.

Speaker 106 i consider myself that i watched that super bowl that's right because my dad is a huge cowboys fan and he sat me down next to him and so i i jokingly say that i saw the cowboys win but bro i mean this year

Speaker 106 woof i mean they i

Speaker 106 it's happened it's kind of like a rinse or repeat you know as a cowboys fan i always say that it's like at the beginning of the year you're looking at it you're like oh this is we look good we're looking good this year this looks great right really the talent the the you look at the lineup you're like oh my god

Speaker 106 how are we gonna win right and then you know a couple games in you're kind of feeling it out it's like okay well and then maybe an injury happens or something like that you're like well okay and then now we're you know i don't even know what we are right now three and seven i i think the whole the whole nfc right now is just a a giant awful it's just terrible whoever whoever wins that i always i've been jokingly saying though whoever wins the nfc is going to win the super bowl watching i think because everyone's going to everyone's going to underexpect it you know what i mean i think they're probably going to win a playoff game that happens all the time like there's a six and ten team

Speaker 106 wait was the it was the giants Weren't they called? Didn't they win the Super Bowl coming off 8-8?

Speaker 60 They were

Speaker 11 9-7, I think.

Speaker 39 Were they? I think they were were 9-7 that year.

Speaker 11 But the Saints won when they were 9-7, when they won their division.

Speaker 9 Or

Speaker 11 when they were 7-9.

Speaker 108 7-9, right?

Speaker 11 They know they lost to the Seahawks. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I forget how that went.

Speaker 51 7-9 won a game.

Speaker 124 Yeah,

Speaker 106 there was like a stat where it's like, you know, teams that are, you know, coming into the playoffs as the underdog, have a Mario chance, whatever.

Speaker 106 But I, you know, the Cowboys, man, I, yeah, I love them. And I've been a fan my whole life, but it's,

Speaker 106 yeah, man, this year, I mean, I'm, you know, a rebuilding year.

Speaker 125 I feel like I say that, you know, every year, though, for the last like

Speaker 57 not even Cowboys.

Speaker 11 The Cowboys just reload, but they just reload to being exactly as inefficient as they were.

Speaker 106 Yeah, Nate, man, it's like they're plague. I don't even know.
I don't even think we're going to hit 88 this year, but it's like, hey, Nate, by the end of the year, every single time, it's like, man,

Speaker 106 I don't know, bro. I don't know.
As a fan, I just watched it. I'm like, man,

Speaker 106 hopefully next year we get it all sorting out. You know what I mean?

Speaker 106 I mean, I guess the spin zone is as long as you pay Dak, then he'll probably come back and you guys will be a solid eight and eight nine and seven again right you're right right i mean dak's a i'd love i love him as a qb i was a huge tony romo fan too i feel like a lot of people didn't really like romo for whatever reason i i you know you think about the the drop you know the fumpled you know kick hold whatever but it's like i i always liked the way tony romo played and then dak came in i was like i like dak a lot too and and i really i really do have high hopes for dak man i hope i hope they i hope they sign him figure it out we'll see yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 I actually did see this one last one

Speaker 47 from the sheet.

Speaker 47 Man of many looks throughout the years, just like you.

Speaker 20 He's talking to me, and he said

Speaker 31 fluctuating in various weights, which I actually noticed because I'm a bigger guy myself who fluctuates when you said at the beginning, you know, I'm trying to look after my health, running a mile a day.

Speaker 20 That is such a fat guy thing to say.

Speaker 60 It is, bro.

Speaker 81 Like,

Speaker 54 I'll say that every now and then, be like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 45 I'm on a diet.

Speaker 6 I went to the gym for 20 minutes today.

Speaker 60 I'm trying to get healthy. And then

Speaker 17 I'm second three weeks from now and I'm eating a pizza doing the same shit.

Speaker 21 So keep strong.

Speaker 111 Stay strong. Thank you.

Speaker 106 Hey, I appreciate that, man. You too, bro.

Speaker 108 We'll get there eventually, right?

Speaker 106 One day at a time.

Speaker 32 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 43 Well, yeah, holidays are coming up.

Speaker 87 You're doing the pre-holiday.

Speaker 84 I'm doing that right now, too.

Speaker 70 Yeah, right.

Speaker 106 Pre-holiday so I can bulk, you know, bulk at the end of the day.

Speaker 74 Yeah, it's games right now.

Speaker 11 You get to take that diet through January because it's the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 106 Right, Super Bowl. You want to eat good on the Super Bowl, so you kind of like end of December into Super Bowl area.

Speaker 11 Well, then Valentine's Day, you want to go for a nice meal, too.

Speaker 106 Valentine's Day, and then after that, it's like, oh, summer's coming up. It's spring.
All right, let's get it. Let's die together a little bit.

Speaker 11 I think we figured out that America has really one month in which guys can realistically hope to die, and that's April. Like right after March madness is over.

Speaker 11 You get April to kind of not eat anything, just drink a lot of water, eat salad, and then that through Memorial Day. And then Memorial Day weekend through the day.

Speaker 36 Yeah, Memorial Day is like the kickoff, right?

Speaker 106 The kickoff of eating barbecue and drinking beer.

Speaker 106 Yep.

Speaker 129 Yes, yes.

Speaker 12 Well, this has been awesome, man.

Speaker 15 We really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 We got to play some video games with you and Nick sometime.

Speaker 50 That would be fun.

Speaker 22 I'm down, bro.

Speaker 106 I'm down. Let's get you guys in some Warzone games or Fortnite.

Speaker 106 Fortnite or Warzone, which one do you like more?

Speaker 90 I'll play Warzone.

Speaker 11 I'm actually going to try to see how long I can last without firing a weapon.

Speaker 106 Let's get it, bro. Let's get you in so that maybe, like, when you put you next to me, people will be like, man, maybe Tim's actually, you know, kind of decent, right?

Speaker 35 Maybe that would be the thing, right? Right.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 11 The old Adam Gates Jay Cutler. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Maybe we'll have Nick Mercs sit in our studio and use the controls while I sit with a dummy controller and I murder it.

Speaker 27 Good idea. Smart.
Smart.

Speaker 108 Smart. I like that.

Speaker 83 All right, man. Well, thanks so much.

Speaker 26 Really appreciate it.

Speaker 106 Absolutely, man. I appreciate you guys having me.
Thanks. Thanks much for doing this.
It's awesome.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Go check them out on Twitch.

Speaker 26 Tim the Tapman.

Speaker 18 Very, very entertaining.

Speaker 66 Appreciate it.

Speaker 66 going on.

Speaker 44 Okay, thanks to Tim the Tapman.

Speaker 6 Next up, PFT, we have,

Speaker 44 we're going to go actually in chronological order for the year for our best of.

Speaker 72 And we have something that feels like it was 10 million years ago, but it was the national championship in New Orleans.

Speaker 16 It really does feel like that was 20 years ago.

Speaker 11 It makes no sense that this was 11 months ago. The best time ever.
It was one of my favorite weeks I've ever had and one of my favorite mornings that I've ever had.

Speaker 11 It was right in the sweet zone when you were still drunk, but you hadn't quite started to get hungover yet. Right.

Speaker 11 And so you were feeling great about all your decisions, which were probably questionable at best.

Speaker 19 Everything was funny.

Speaker 89 Yes. Like everything was giggling.

Speaker 19 Liam, what was your favorite memory from that morning?

Speaker 59 All of it. Yeah, all of it.

Speaker 57 Sleeping in.

Speaker 32 Liam had,

Speaker 71 we got back from the hotel.

Speaker 9 After the game, we got back to the hotel at probably like three or four in the morning.

Speaker 86 Later, like 4.30.

Speaker 1 And we're sitting there.

Speaker 6 We get in the lobby, and in the lobby, there's a guy disgruntled with a huge bag of delivery food.

Speaker 16 And he's like calling, and he's asking the front desk person, and he's like,

Speaker 87 I'm trying to bring this up to some guy named Liam.

Speaker 6 And we're like, all right, we'll take care of it.

Speaker 18 So we went up to Liam's room.

Speaker 6 We got a key card. We dropped it off.

Speaker 17 We tried to wake him up.

Speaker 19 The next morning, we went back.

Speaker 13 All the food, nothing had been touched.

Speaker 17 And yeah, it was a good night in New Orleans.

Speaker 9 It was wonderful.

Speaker 11 And the morning after was incredible talking to Joe and to Coach O, asking him just like probably the same four questions over and over again. Pretty much.

Speaker 11 There was one point where I asked Joe Burrow a question, but I never really had a question.

Speaker 34 No, you just kept on the business.

Speaker 11 I was just like, you guys kick ass. Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's pretty cool watching you.

Speaker 54 It was the Michael Scott.

Speaker 6 Like, you start a sentence, you don't know if it's going to end or not.

Speaker 11 Oh, I knew what I wanted to say to him, and I just wanted to be like, yo, do you know how much ass you kicked? That was the question I wanted to ask. Yes.
Some pretty hard-hitting stuff.

Speaker 11 But yeah, we just kind of lost a train of thought a few times. But one of the greatest mornings, one one of the greatest weeks that we've had.

Speaker 78 And we're also going to throw in our interview with Jay Cutler, which was a great one as well.

Speaker 47 So we did that in New Orleans as well.

Speaker 6 So it was a great little trip with Coach O, Joe Burrow, Jay Cutler.

Speaker 44 All three interviews, best of those coming up.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here it is.

Speaker 83 Coach O, or sorry, Joe Burrow, Coach O, and Jay Cutler.

Speaker 27 All right.

Speaker 57 We're

Speaker 99 in New Orleans in the Marriott. We have the Heisman Trophy winner, the national champion winner, Joe Burrow, Big Dick Joe.

Speaker 103 That hat was awesome, by the way.

Speaker 99 You said you just woke up 10 minutes ago.

Speaker 9 We're in the same clothes that we wore last night.

Speaker 134 He slept through the

Speaker 134 Golic and Wingo interview or whatever it was.

Speaker 11 Whoops.

Speaker 10 Kind of on purpose.

Speaker 125 They were banging on my door at 8:30 in the morning, so I didn't really want to get up.

Speaker 9 It is funny that they make you do interviews now. Like you don't, you have no obligations.

Speaker 125 Like, I would be on camera and I would look like crap because I had I would have literally zero sleep. Yeah, and I would be going on camera with these people right and look like a fool.

Speaker 45 Well, now you're with us and we're just

Speaker 11 with the podcast.

Speaker 125 Right.

Speaker 66 I mean, we're the exact same.

Speaker 11 Trust me, we are drunker than you are.

Speaker 125 Yes, you can't see my beady little eyes right now.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 45 So, dude, you won the national title.

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 10 Yes, we did.

Speaker 36 That was crazy.

Speaker 66 Pretty cool.

Speaker 136 Were you ever at any point in the game worried?

Speaker 137 Because you guys did go down.

Speaker 125 Yeah, honestly, never.

Speaker 132 Not even no rah-rah speech?

Speaker 125 No rah-rah speech. Like, when we were down 17-7, we didn't even say anything on the sideline.

Speaker 57 Really? We knew what we had to do.

Speaker 6 I mean, that seems like you probably should talk about the plays.

Speaker 10 I mean,

Speaker 135 we didn't say anything to each other.

Speaker 125 We just went out there and started playing football.

Speaker 66 We knew what we had to do.

Speaker 11 It was like the second or third play of the game where you rolled out.

Speaker 125 First play of the game.

Speaker 11 First play of the game, you flushed out of the pocket, and you rolled out to your right hit a receiver downfield they called it back at that point i was so mad because it was an awesome play yes it was they i don't care if there's a penalty on it the play was so awesome that they should have let it stand yeah let us remember that play that was a tough one first play of the game and it minus three instead of plus 45.

Speaker 99 yeah that was that was a tough one well you also have like a thing going right now and i'm sure you've recognized it maybe you haven't but like you just can do whatever you want, and it ends up being a good play.

Speaker 99 Yeah, like that thing that you did against Oklahoma when you were just running and you just threw the ball just up.

Speaker 14 You probably won't be able to do that in the NFL as much, but right now, you might as well just fucking milk it for all it's worth.

Speaker 93 Like, I can just throw it up, and let my guys get it.

Speaker 125 We'll be talking in meetings about like

Speaker 125 protections and getting the blitzes picked up, and I'm really good at that, but

Speaker 125 I also say if I don't get it picked up, they still have to tackle me back there.

Speaker 117 Yes, and they can't do that. Yes, hell yes.

Speaker 79 Was there a rah-rah speech that Coach O gave at halftime?

Speaker 96 No, not really.

Speaker 125 I mean, we just went in, sat in there, went about our business, drank our water, said, these guys can't mess with us, and went back out and played football.

Speaker 117 These guys can't mess with us.

Speaker 99 I actually was more nervous for you guys at the second half when the second half starts.

Speaker 79 And I was like, if they score, if LSU scores seven here, game over, but Clemson scores, so it's a three-point game.

Speaker 99 They get the two-point conversion. No nerves then? No, like, hey, they just, if they mess with the, if they on the same field, they just can't touch us.

Speaker 125 I mean, yeah, we, I mean, we're playing with so we were playing with so much confidence right there. I really don't think anybody ever could have, could have stopped us.

Speaker 76 I mean, we were,

Speaker 125 I mean, we were just rolling. We had,

Speaker 125 I mean, I could just throw up a, I could throw the ball with my eyes closed. My receivers were going to go catch it.
That's how we felt. And,

Speaker 125 I mean, we were just playing with so much confidence.

Speaker 11 You guys are the definition of a goddamn machine. LSU's offense.

Speaker 91 Maybe the best team of all time.

Speaker 86 LSU's offense

Speaker 11 has been a machine this entire year, just steamrolling everybody. So it makes sense that you would be confident, even after

Speaker 11 a slow start the first couple drives,

Speaker 11 that you're able to put it together if you just do what you did all year leading up to this point.

Speaker 133 So,

Speaker 134 right now,

Speaker 73 What?

Speaker 27 I'm so fucked up.

Speaker 10 I think we all are.

Speaker 27 No, I was just talking.

Speaker 74 I don't think of it.

Speaker 11 It wasn't a question. I was just

Speaker 27 thinking.

Speaker 119 I got lost in it.

Speaker 39 Oh, here's a good question.

Speaker 125 If you guys, if everyone could see all of our faces right now.

Speaker 29 No, we're so swollen.

Speaker 14 We look like a bunch of whales that have just been

Speaker 119 salt on.

Speaker 12 I've died inside of of your question.

Speaker 14 Everyone's like, where are we?

Speaker 140 I got a roll, man.

Speaker 29 I want to go.

Speaker 140 I want you guys to be late.

Speaker 29 Here we go. Thanks, everybody.

Speaker 138 Good question.

Speaker 141 We'll get it. Good job, babe.

Speaker 17 All right, here we go. Ready, Hank?

Speaker 46 All right.

Speaker 12 We now welcome on the man, the myth, the legend.

Speaker 79 It is our good friend, Coach Ed Ogeron, national champion.

Speaker 137 Are you the king of Louisiana now?

Speaker 66 I think Joe Burrow is.

Speaker 142 I think you just talked to the king of Louisiana about it.

Speaker 143 Okay, so no, he's the prince.

Speaker 117 You're the king.

Speaker 79 Like, do you get I'm pretty sure you are the king king of the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 117 Well, it's been great.

Speaker 142 It's been great to be in Louisiana. I just love this state.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think it's state law that you cannot legally purchase a beer for the rest of your life. I think you're going to be paid for and taken care of from now on.

Speaker 11 Actually, you know what's going to be interesting is like 18 years from now, you're going to see a lot of college recruits coming into football, coming into NCAA football that are named Ed.

Speaker 11 Ed has been a name that has kind of dropped off.

Speaker 11 But I think you're going to see some LSU babies 18 years from now. It's big.

Speaker 65 Ed is back.

Speaker 52 Are you, I mean, this is insane.

Speaker 6 Have you had a second to be like, this is,

Speaker 17 if they wrote this script about you, they wouldn't make the movie because it would be like, no, he can't actually go to LSU and win.

Speaker 12 Like, that's too not believable.

Speaker 117 Have you had a moment to be like, holy shit, this actually happened?

Speaker 142 Very thankful.

Speaker 117 Very thankful.

Speaker 142 They couldn't have wrote a better script. But you know what? You have to be in a place like LSU to do what we're doing, to attract the great athletes, to attract the great coaches.

Speaker 142 It's the expectation of the school.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Have you had a chance to sleep yet?

Speaker 142 You know what? I slept about three hours last night.

Speaker 93 Really? Yeah. It wasn't bad.

Speaker 103 Got a little shutlock.

Speaker 27 There you go.

Speaker 14 Did you put a worm in your mouth before that?

Speaker 57 No worm, man.

Speaker 117 No worm.

Speaker 142 I don't have to do that with this team. They're motivated.

Speaker 117 It's crazy.

Speaker 142 I mean, it's like a well-armed machine.

Speaker 105 That was what Joe was saying when he was just talking to me. He said

Speaker 99 there was no rah-rah speech at halftime. There was no talking about it.
It was like, we're better than them.

Speaker 137 We just got to go play our game.

Speaker 142 Execute.

Speaker 117 And, you know, we've got to believe in our players, our coaches, and our fundamentals unbelievable did you uh you set your jaw last night i set my jaw several times oh yeah i said it a halftime also that's probably the biggest one that i did and uh i sent a message for for people who under don't understand what we're talking about coacho punches himself well just kind of just a little

Speaker 59 yeah

Speaker 11 that's no that was literally just punching yourself just to get things going just a little bit like that remind you i could knock myself do you ever get yeah do you ever get worried that you're going to knock yourself out no because you're so strong that you can beat yourself up.

Speaker 117 I kind of pull away at the end right there.

Speaker 34 Here's the deal.

Speaker 142 You know how you get in a fight, you got a big plan and everything, and all of a sudden the first bunch,

Speaker 142 all bets off, man.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 117 Then you kick into another gear.

Speaker 142 Yes. And that's what I want our guys to kick in another gear mentally.

Speaker 19 Yeah, because the way the game started, you know, down early,

Speaker 99 the field position was a struggle.

Speaker 3 It was,

Speaker 52 you guys just didn't, unflappable.

Speaker 117 It was crazy.

Speaker 57 No panic.

Speaker 142 Nothing. You know, when you got a quarterback like Joe, you believe.
You believe. And you guys players like we got and the coaches.

Speaker 142 When your offense will score some points, we just have to figure them out.

Speaker 42 Can we get Joe to get like a master's degree or something?

Speaker 27 Yes.

Speaker 91 I'm all for it.

Speaker 27 I'm all for it, my man.

Speaker 86 You get a doctorate, yeah.

Speaker 74 Did you cry after?

Speaker 66 Was that? Did you cry after the game?

Speaker 138 No, I didn't. No, I was good.

Speaker 138 No,

Speaker 117 not at all. It hadn't hit yet.

Speaker 142 But it's going to be emotional. I do believe when we get back to town, Baton Rouge see Tiger Stadium.
Yes. Now, We always want to come back there 15 and all.

Speaker 142 It just means a lot when I see that stadium.

Speaker 137 People are saying, like, maybe one of the best, if not the best,

Speaker 99 champions ever.

Speaker 137 You guys beat five of the top eight teams at the end of the polls.

Speaker 117 I think we're in the conversation.

Speaker 132 Incredible. For sure.

Speaker 11 Can I be honest, you look very put together right now, considering what time it is the day after winning a national title.

Speaker 11 You obviously got up early, took care of yourself.

Speaker 134 We literally rolled out of bed.

Speaker 132 Sorry, Coach.

Speaker 11 We partied harder than you do.

Speaker 57 I feel bad.

Speaker 27 I'm getting old. I don't do this.

Speaker 57 No, I feel bad.

Speaker 132 I feel bad, Coach.

Speaker 57 Oh,

Speaker 6 when we had Joe on, he told us, this was right after the Heisman, Ray Baker.

Speaker 117 We got to talk about Ray Baker.

Speaker 129 Ray Baker, man.

Speaker 134 Ray Baker, great, great friend of yours.

Speaker 142 Ray Baker. He's got to be our friend.
You got to spend time with him.

Speaker 142 If you don't spend time with her, he'll bake your ass.

Speaker 11 So, Joe actually told us, I think this was off the air after we're done recording our podcast, but he said that one of the first times he met with you, you asked him, What do you think about Ray Baker?

Speaker 11 And Joe was like, He's a good player.

Speaker 11 He was kind of bullshitting his way through it, and then you walked out of the room. And then he looked to his buddy.

Speaker 74 He was like, Who's Ray Baker?

Speaker 11 And he's like, Oh, that's what Coach O calls the sun.

Speaker 142 That big yellow ball in the sky, man.

Speaker 142 Those rays in the sky will bake your ass.

Speaker 129 Yes, they will.

Speaker 77 Oh, man. All right.

Speaker 137 Well, I know you got to get going.

Speaker 79 We appreciate it anytime.

Speaker 99 Can we just do go tigers like 20 times in a row?

Speaker 126 I mean, every time I love it, do you get mad?

Speaker 45 I get mad when they don't ask, let you say go tigers.

Speaker 117 That's right.

Speaker 129 Do you say it when you're walking in the like when?

Speaker 79 Okay, so if they're interviewing you at halftime and they don't let you have that go tigers, do you still say it?

Speaker 142 Yes, I still say it. Yeah, every time.
Okay, good.

Speaker 99 That's good to know because I always get so upset when it's like, wait, you didn't let him say it. Put the mic back in front of him.

Speaker 42 He needs to be able to say go tigers.

Speaker 117 Go tigers.

Speaker 60 Go tigers.

Speaker 65 There you go.

Speaker 11 One last, last question. Have you figured out what you're going to buy with your millions and millions of dollars that they're going to pay you down?

Speaker 134 Because

Speaker 9 you're going to be a registered.

Speaker 27 Regulation?

Speaker 132 A contract for life?

Speaker 14 We'll do it.

Speaker 142 Well, hey, y'all need to go talk to me, but I'm sure LSU will take care of me, and it's not about that, to be honest with you. I'm going to put it away for my children.

Speaker 117 Good.

Speaker 79 Good answer. We'll get it.
We'll get you.

Speaker 117 Contract for life.

Speaker 57 You want a contract for life?

Speaker 34 You guys are going to be able to do it.

Speaker 27 You want it? You want it?

Speaker 57 Coach for life.

Speaker 91 We'll get it.

Speaker 117 Coach for life.

Speaker 132 Coach forever.

Speaker 137 That will be the name. That will be the head coach forever.

Speaker 99 We'll be on in front of your door.

Speaker 149 All right, Coach O.

Speaker 52 Congrats again.

Speaker 44 Unbelievable.

Speaker 145 So happy for you.

Speaker 142 Thank you for your friendship. You guys are phenomenal.

Speaker 117 Go Tigers.

Speaker 11 Go Tigers. Go Tigers.

Speaker 150 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 6 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, old friend of mine,

Speaker 144 owner of 14 Chicago Bear Records, which you didn't know until I just told you.

Speaker 133 It is Jay Cutler. Mr.

Speaker 13 Primetime, Mr. Fourth Quarter.

Speaker 62 What other nicknames do you have?

Speaker 12 Smoke and Jay.

Speaker 151 Anything else?

Speaker 11 I think that's it.

Speaker 6 The sometimes confused for the bodybuilder. Yeah.

Speaker 152 My son actually just found him on the internet and thinks it's the wildest thing he's ever seen in his entire life.

Speaker 11 So if you don't know what we're talking about, go Google, do a Google image search for Jay Cutler, and you will be shocked what comes up first.

Speaker 11 I want to jump in real quick because Big Cat, when he introdu you, he dropped the F word, the friend word.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 Was that over the line? Or are you guys friends?

Speaker 101 No, we're friends.

Speaker 57 Yeah, we're friends. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 101 We're back together. Yeah, we're back together.

Speaker 13 There was a moment where we weren't together and now we're back together.

Speaker 152 You know, sometimes sometimes you need some space, right?

Speaker 13 Four years, yeah, that's fine, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 47 Although, we texted here and there.

Speaker 1 Usually, I would text Jay, and then he would, Jay does a really good thing, good job of making you feel

Speaker 13 really insecure by not texting you back until like a week later.

Speaker 65 Like, even this, when we're coming to New Orleans, I texted him.

Speaker 13 I was like, Hey, we're coming to New Orleans.

Speaker 20 It's be awesome if you got you on the pod.

Speaker 13 And then he talked to our friend Steven and was like, Yeah, big cat texted me.

Speaker 98 I'm gonna give that a few days.

Speaker 29 Then we did a week to text me back.

Speaker 54 And then text me like it was like total mid-conversation.

Speaker 42 He's like, cool, we should hang out.

Speaker 74 Yeah. I like that

Speaker 11 establishes dominance. Yeah.

Speaker 152 All right. So.

Speaker 123 I felt good about it.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Where do you want to start?

Speaker 66 Retirement?

Speaker 49 You feeling good? Are you officially retired?

Speaker 115 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 66 Yes.

Speaker 66 So tomorrow.

Speaker 152 Well, I said that because I don't know if you like ever, like, there's no retirement papers, you know?

Speaker 42 Like, you just, you just don't have a job anymore.

Speaker 9 I'm pretty sure there are retirement papers.

Speaker 152 Aren't If you're under contract, I think you have to fill something out. But if you don't have a contract or if you're not on a team, it's just it's over.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I think a lot of people will be interested to know like how this

Speaker 11 romance began. Because I honestly, I don't really know like what the start of it was.
How did you guys meet each other?

Speaker 13 Well, Jay's been, was always a longtime Stoolian fan of Barstool.

Speaker 101 And I actually like...

Speaker 57 No joke, like owe a lot to Jay because back in the day when we were starting Barstool Chicago, we had like no money as a company.

Speaker 13 And I remember I said to Dave, like, we got to make this shirt.

Speaker 26 We'll put the Chicago flag with the bar with the stools.

Speaker 6 It will sell like hotcakes.

Speaker 133 And he's like, I don't know.

Speaker 13 It was back like when shipping shirts took like a month.

Speaker 78 So I went and had three of them handmade and got them to Jay.

Speaker 13 And Jay wore it at a press conference. And that was like our first big moment for Barstool Chicago.

Speaker 152 Yeah, I remember whenever Barstool was kind of up and rolling. And,

Speaker 152 you know, back then it was more just, you know, the written stuff with like a picture, a video and stuff. And you really got to, I feel like you really got to feel

Speaker 152 whoever was riding, you know, their riding style and stuff. And we would always,

Speaker 152 see even some of the guys, whenever Big Cat started doing it, we're like,

Speaker 152 this dude's funny. Like, he gets it.

Speaker 154 And then I don't know how we,

Speaker 6 yeah, I can't remember what the exact connection. I remember I met Chewie in the halftime of a Bears game and gave him the shirts.

Speaker 104 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And then we started hanging out from the other.

Speaker 152 I know, but how did we first track you down?

Speaker 155 I can't remember exactly. Oh, that's a good question.
Fuck. Do you guys remember?

Speaker 103 Oh, you do?

Speaker 103 Because there was the guy before you.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah, Neil. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 59 And we brought him to your charity event.

Speaker 1 That's right, the charity event.

Speaker 3 Yes. And he got canned, and I think me and you started investing.

Speaker 13 Yes, because we would do your charity event every year. And then that started.

Speaker 13 And it was huge because it's like the starting quarterback for the Chicago Bears is wearing our shirt and like a fan of ours.

Speaker 49 And now, was it Greg Olson who got you into bar school?

Speaker 13 Because he claims that.

Speaker 88 It could be. Yeah.
I think we found it.

Speaker 152 I'll give him credit. We might have found it kind of similar times.

Speaker 12 But it was you and like you and Greg, and I'm trying to think there's maybe a couple other, but like

Speaker 13 Ryan Whitney, like there's basically three or four guys in like the early days who were pro athletes who were like, these guys are funny.

Speaker 44 And it was so fucking huge.

Speaker 152 Yeah, I mean, you guys took it and just skyrocketed.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and then Big Cat made a lot of money selling the Cutler shirts and the Marlboro cigarette shop. The Marlo cigarette.
Did he ever give you a taste?

Speaker 90 Did he give you a ticket?

Speaker 51 That one got ceased and desisted.

Speaker 12 That one got taken down. The Marlborough one.

Speaker 9 That was a great shirt.

Speaker 152 I have one.

Speaker 62 Yeah, you have one.

Speaker 126 I'll give you some more.

Speaker 92 I actually think we did a limited release.

Speaker 6 We had the Dika shirt that he wore at a press conference.

Speaker 146 That was a good one.

Speaker 47 Yeah, we were, and then we, yeah, we became friends.

Speaker 50 And like, we were, we would hang out, you know,

Speaker 12 probably once a month. And then,

Speaker 13 and then I said I would take Andy Dalton over him.

Speaker 126 I had the flu.

Speaker 13 I was doing, this was back when I had to really grind. I remember I was.

Speaker 59 You're playing hurt, yeah.

Speaker 12 Ben Finfer was hosting 8 to 9 p.m. on ESPN 1000, and they're like, Hey, can you come in and so you're blaming?

Speaker 29 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 14 He was like, Can you do this?

Speaker 6 I was like, It was a point in my career where it's like, You don't say no to anything.

Speaker 12 Like, you tell me where, I'll be there.

Speaker 27 I'm doing it.

Speaker 26 I was dead.

Speaker 44 I was like, so sick.

Speaker 26 I pounded two Red Bulls and two day colds.

Speaker 36 I mean, look at you now.

Speaker 152 You just wear jumpsuits and you call the shots.

Speaker 51 And some caller caller called in and was like, Would you take Dalton or Cutler?

Speaker 13 And Andy was like five years younger, and I was like, given everything, I'd probably take Dalton right now.

Speaker 44 Went home, went to sleep, slept till like noon because I was so sick, woke up, and there was a bunch of text messages being like, hey, big cat, way to go, dude.

Speaker 129 Like, you're just going to take Dalton over Cutler.

Speaker 156 Jay never said it.

Speaker 13 Jay, to his credit, he never was like, fuck you, dude.

Speaker 42 It was

Speaker 147 the rest of his crew that are loyal and they're like, what's your problem?

Speaker 17 And that was kind of it for for a while.

Speaker 129 Yeah, we took a break.

Speaker 138 Yeah, we went through a break, and now we're back.

Speaker 54 But it was always like, I mean, it was, you know,

Speaker 156 it actually taught me an important lesson too, because it was tough, I think, for you too.

Speaker 13 Like, we were legitimate friends, but I also had to talk about the Bears. And when the Bears went through bad times, it was like, I can't.

Speaker 136 And there are some dark times. Right.

Speaker 156 And I had to, and like, I had to do, and people always said I didn't criticize you at all.

Speaker 19 And I still had to at times.

Speaker 13 And it was like, it was a tough relationship to have at like some dark times.

Speaker 11 Romeo and and Juliet's

Speaker 86 two star-crossed lovers. We're back.

Speaker 144 We always had a good time together.

Speaker 57 Yeah, it's nice. I like that.

Speaker 14 That's really romantic. It's good to be back.

Speaker 27 It's good to be back.

Speaker 60 It feels good.

Speaker 13 I'll probably be out in like two years again. That's fine.

Speaker 152 It goes in cycles.

Speaker 135 Any good relationship does, though.

Speaker 74 You're hot and you're cold.

Speaker 39 Yeah, right.

Speaker 11 You have to enjoy the ups when they're up. You're right.
Did you like the Smoke and Jay Cutler stuff cigarette photo?

Speaker 136 I didn't mind it.

Speaker 152 I don't think we ever really told anyone to stop doing it. People have sold stuff and there's things everywhere.
We never really went after anybody.

Speaker 44 And you leaned into it with the picture that I took at your 30th birthday party where he was dressed up like a...

Speaker 26 It was an 80s theme party, right?

Speaker 13 And that was like he leaned into it by posting.

Speaker 13 He posted a picture of him fake smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 93 And like the internet went wild for it.

Speaker 12 It was a funny meme.

Speaker 13 I mean, your face is perfect for...

Speaker 98 There are a lot of people who think you actually do like smoke two packs a day.

Speaker 92 I know.

Speaker 66 Have you ever smoked?

Speaker 39 No.

Speaker 153 No smoke at all.

Speaker 66 Really? No.

Speaker 11 I've photoshopped a cigarette into your ass in the naked picture that got put online.

Speaker 82 It's very funny. Why did you do that?

Speaker 70 Because

Speaker 11 I got to caption it, Jay Butler, and everyone thought that was funny.

Speaker 65 That's pretty good.

Speaker 101 People laughed at that.

Speaker 57 You got to admit, that's pretty good.

Speaker 61 That's fucking good. I don't think I don't know Jay Butler.

Speaker 11 Okay, you write a new caption for your ass.

Speaker 152 See, that's not my thing, though.

Speaker 154 But I don't.

Speaker 42 I'm better at writing captions for your own ass than you are.

Speaker 152 That's not an athletic event.

Speaker 11 That's probably, yeah, that's probably true.

Speaker 126 You don't know.

Speaker 74 The Olympics are hurting for events.

Speaker 14 You might add that.

Speaker 152 I do want to get a team together

Speaker 152 for the Olympics. They have,

Speaker 152 I think it's handball. But it's basically like a little ball that you throw around and then throw into a goal.
So it's like soccer. Yes.
Indoor soccer with a ball that you throw.

Speaker 6 Oh, you should play that.

Speaker 64 You'd be really good at handball players.

Speaker 31 That would be so sick if you started, if you like.

Speaker 58 There's a U.S.

Speaker 154 team, but I want to go and do that.

Speaker 123 Yes.

Speaker 42 You should. Just throwing missiles.

Speaker 11 Fuck. I think if it was you, Patrick Mahomes, and LeBron, just how many players play in handball? Like eight on a single time?

Speaker 11 So if it was you three against eight players from any other country, I think we win.

Speaker 152 I think we, I guarantee we can put a team together and win gold.

Speaker 1 Yes. Guaranteed.
I would absolutely agree with that.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Just from pure like arm speed.

Speaker 9 I don't think guys in other countries.

Speaker 152 And just a really big guy is a goalie back.

Speaker 136 Right.

Speaker 152 If you watch it, I mean, I've studied this from time to time.

Speaker 10 It sounds like you're ready to go.

Speaker 152 If you watch it, usually all these teams like have an old guy that plays goalie. That's just He literally, if someone's coming, he just guesses and just throws his hand.

Speaker 123 Sometimes hits the ball, sometimes doesn't.

Speaker 136 All right, so you're in for that.

Speaker 100 Okay,

Speaker 31 let's do, we're doing chronological, so let's go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 Super Bowl, also something that feels like a million years ago in Miami.

Speaker 46 Whoa, Miami, yeah.

Speaker 93 Fuck.

Speaker 11 Because Miami, it was like the week before the pen deal got announced.

Speaker 71 It was right before the pandemic got announced.

Speaker 86 Right before we sold out.

Speaker 18 Right before the the pandemic got announced yeah yeah so um people were eating bats across the world without even a second thought we were just happy go lucky regular people yep uh so we have george kittle who played in the super bowl david baker uh the man the myth of legend from the hall of fame and baker mayfield ooh that's kind of funny huh david baker mayfields i like that david baker mayfield uh anything so yeah we're not going to the super bowl this year right i don't think so well unless the if the bears go to the super bowl yeah or the bills or or the Bills or the Washington football team, then we're probably gonna go.

Speaker 2 But it's gonna be weird, it's gonna be weird not going to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 It's gonna be strange, but it's also probably for the best. It'll, yeah, dude, that's gonna be an awesome week of uh relative rest and relaxation compared to what we normally do that week.

Speaker 26 That's true, that is true.

Speaker 33 All right, so what we normally do that week is a ton of interviews. So, here it is: George Kittle, David Baker, Mayfield.

Speaker 62 Look at that combo.

Speaker 156 My biggest question to you is: who is under more pressure?

Speaker 66 You or your dad?

Speaker 54 Because your dad sends you a letter before every game.

Speaker 9 Kind of a try-hard move.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 56 This is the most important letter of his life.

Speaker 87 Like, how do you send a Super Bowl letter?

Speaker 54 What do you write in a Super Bowl letter?

Speaker 79 That's his Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 Yeah. It is.

Speaker 87 Has he already started it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you expecting in this letter?

Speaker 79 All right, so put in perspective,

Speaker 159 like a normal game day letter is that's like three to five pages.

Speaker 117 That's so long.

Speaker 74 That's like pictures.

Speaker 159 No,

Speaker 159 it's a big font. He throws a lot of pictures in there.

Speaker 57 It's pop-up. It's okay.

Speaker 136 Yeah.

Speaker 136 Yeah.

Speaker 74 He fucking opened and pops up.

Speaker 159 NFC Championship game was 10 pages.

Speaker 117 Oh, my God.

Speaker 159 It was like a full 10.

Speaker 86 It's like Dickens.

Speaker 159 Dude, it was thick. And so

Speaker 159 now it's the Super Bowl. I'm expecting like 15 pages minimum.

Speaker 118 And what time is he going to give it to you?

Speaker 159 I get it the night before the game.

Speaker 60 All right, because I was going to say, I would definitely fall asleep halfway through.

Speaker 159 I don't read it until I get to the stadium, though. Oh.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So are you prepping that?

Speaker 19 Are you telling everyone, like, hey, coach, I'm going to need a little extra prep time because dad's going to give me like Moby Dick before this game.

Speaker 159 I might get on the early, early bus.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 159 Yeah. I got to give myself an extra 30 minutes.

Speaker 11 It would almost make it, it would be more powerful if he just wrote you like one line for this game. Just said, like, oh, don't screw this up.
Yeah.

Speaker 119 You're always, no,

Speaker 39 no, throw him out of the club.

Speaker 132 No, like, you're always a champion in my eyes.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 11 If you lose, you're out of the family.

Speaker 91 Oh.

Speaker 159 I don't know if you go that route. I like the other one you said, though.

Speaker 11 Just don't screw this up.

Speaker 86 Yeah. No, after that.

Speaker 61 I'll throw him out of the club.

Speaker 75 Yeah, throw him out of the club.

Speaker 40 So what what are you expecting in this?

Speaker 87 Like, is he going to make you cry?

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Is that his goal? Like,

Speaker 33 I would assume that it wouldn't be good for you to cry before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 49 It's like one of those checklists I have before I go on in the field.

Speaker 159 I do this, like, it's part of my routine. And

Speaker 159 I don't know. The letters just consist of whether it's, you know, family memories or, you know, movies that we used to watch as a kid when I was growing up.
Oh, he's going to make you cry.

Speaker 9 Oh, he's going to cry.

Speaker 57 Oh, he's going to make you cry.

Speaker 159 He pulled a quote from Hildaga, which was a movie. Do you remember the Vigo Mortensen movie with the horse racing? He pulled a quote from that.

Speaker 75 I was like, dude, come on, man.

Speaker 159 that I watched that when I was like 10 or later.

Speaker 103 You know, made me cry.

Speaker 11 So, what else is on your checklist before a game? You read the letter from your dad. What do you do to mentally and physically? Like, do you have anything else weird that you do?

Speaker 159 If you honestly want to know, so as soon as we come back in from warm-ups, I go puke. Really? 100%.

Speaker 132 Before every game. Every game.

Speaker 57 That probably makes you feel a little bit better.

Speaker 59 It does make me feel better.

Speaker 101 Yeah, I always think I'm like, all right, I'm a step faster now.

Speaker 159 That's my positive mindset. And then as soon as we're walking out, I put my helmet on and I head by the walls almost as hard as I can.

Speaker 9 It's good.

Speaker 60 You have have that in the right order. Well, no, so the helmet on first.
Helmet, yeah.

Speaker 159 But so I learned that the first hit is always like hurts the most. So get it out of the way.
Yeah. And then there's no first hit.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 119 I always felt that way.

Speaker 57 Like smart.

Speaker 11 Playing any sort of contact sport, all the fear and apprehension you have kind of goes out the window the first time you get hit because your mind isn't like, doesn't have time to worry about other stuff.

Speaker 60 You can just get out of the way.

Speaker 86 Exactly.

Speaker 9 Just a heads up, you've never played in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 Neither have we, but we've watched all of them.

Speaker 71 It goes really fast.

Speaker 156 People say the speed is crazy in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 33 So be ready for the speed.

Speaker 62 Don't blink.

Speaker 11 Have you played in the Super Bowl on Madden?

Speaker 159 Oh, dear.

Speaker 159 Not since probably like 2008.

Speaker 57 Maybe that's what you do.

Speaker 11 Maybe you get like a PlayStation in your hotel room and simulate, like sit down and play a few games just to get used to that game speed.

Speaker 159 The game speed and the fans and all that. The loudness of the stadium.
So it's going to be different. Picture it.

Speaker 11 I just heard you.

Speaker 11 You just dropped an oh dear. And you kind of slipped into the Todd and Gordo.

Speaker 86 I know you're a big fan.

Speaker 11 You think that you're Canadian sometimes. We've heard that from some of your teammates.

Speaker 11 I think there was an article in the ringer that said, like, sometimes he actually does believe that he's Canadian. Yes.

Speaker 11 So as Todd and Gordo, in your presence, I'd like to maybe

Speaker 11 trade off our services.

Speaker 120 We have an idea of maybe something we could do to help you.

Speaker 11 And then I don't know if Big Cat wants to explain that. Then I have a request from you.

Speaker 156 Yeah, we're going to, so much like your dad writes you an entire book before every single game, you as a fan of Todd and Gordo, we haven't done Todd and Gordo Light light in like two and a half years.

Speaker 144 Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed.

Speaker 12 So, and I told you this probably three weeks ago, I was like, if you get to the Super Bowl, we will make a Todd and Gordo hype video.

Speaker 159 Why do you think I was playing so hard?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so wait, so should we not release it till after the Super Bowl?

Speaker 58 No, no, no, no, no, no, release a second one.

Speaker 60 Okay, all right.

Speaker 27 So release a second one.

Speaker 15 After the Super Bowl

Speaker 12 hype video before the Super Bowl, we're going to make a special edition Todd and Gordo like one-minute Instagram hype video that you're going to release on your Instagram

Speaker 45 on like Friday or Saturday.

Speaker 159 I'm in.

Speaker 13 And it's going to get everyone pumped up.

Speaker 71 It's easy.

Speaker 11 Okay. So as our payment for that, what's your bonus if you win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 117 I don't.

Speaker 6 There's no chance that Craig actually even.

Speaker 144 You probably don't even have access to your own bank account.

Speaker 66 Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 90 Partial. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, I do that too. So I was going to say, like, we either get 50%, no big deal.
It's just like maybe 50 to 65% of your Super Bowl bonus.

Speaker 134 Okay.

Speaker 11 Or if you win Super Bowl MVP, you get a Todd and Gordo tattoo.

Speaker 86 Oh.

Speaker 160 Oh, you have to. If we inspire you to

Speaker 27 okay.

Speaker 57 Yeah, so then that's no problem.

Speaker 93 No, no, no.

Speaker 101 I like the tattoo.

Speaker 121 Kudusu both.

Speaker 57 Yes,

Speaker 57 perfect.

Speaker 86 Do you have a hard bargain?

Speaker 6 Yeah, you really are a negotiator.

Speaker 11 Wait, do you have to do that? Do you negotiate your contracts like Richard Sherman?

Speaker 159 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll pay someone to do that.

Speaker 132 That's probably for the best.

Speaker 6 What about the reset button that you have on your arm?

Speaker 9 Is that the Joker?

Speaker 42 Yeah, yeah. No, no.

Speaker 11 Isn't the what was the article said that in that same article, you have a reset button that you hit.

Speaker 65 And oh, it is the joker.

Speaker 34 It is the joker. You hit that.

Speaker 159 I used to have a wrist tape on, and I'd put a big red button on it in college.

Speaker 11 So I'd slap it.

Speaker 11 I'm visualizing. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 So you don't do that anymore? You don't have the, you just do the joker.

Speaker 42 Joker. Boom.

Speaker 26 Reset yourself.

Speaker 49 I just want to really quickly go back to how the actual selection goes down because I think it's fascinating.

Speaker 20 So you guys are all in a room.

Speaker 33 It's 50 people, right?

Speaker 158 48. 48.

Speaker 155 Elite selectors.

Speaker 49 Elite selectors.

Speaker 19 And you have people come up, make the case, so you whittle it down from a pool of how many to

Speaker 158 generally every year this is a different because it's a centennial year and we're having 20 for 2020

Speaker 161 but you know most years it'll be 18 finalists okay you know generally that's a a senior and contributors that make up three

Speaker 161 and then it is players and coaches who make up the other 15 finalists right and the seniors and coaches you know kind of go out on their own and then when we get to that 15 you go from 15 to 10 and and then you kind of whittle it down to five and and now what is that room like?

Speaker 57 Are people arguing?

Speaker 9 Is it the greatest sports debate of all time?

Speaker 11 Like is Peter King complaining about the coffee?

Speaker 83 Yeah, it seems like a fascinating place to be in.

Speaker 121 Well listen, we've learned a long time ago the way to get elite media there is food.

Speaker 57 Yes.

Speaker 27 Okay, so I mean

Speaker 27 cookies for you guys here today.

Speaker 60 I appreciate that.

Speaker 74 I know. But no, I think it's one of those things,

Speaker 161 PFT, where Peter King told me that he does 120 interviews all year round just to prepare for that one day.

Speaker 121 And we've got guys like John Clayton and Sal Palantonio and Jarrett Bell from USA Today. And these guys take it.
I wish fans could see how seriously they take it.

Speaker 121 And most of them say that it's the most important day of their year.

Speaker 6 Well, knowing how much NFL fans love the NFL, I think we should probably put it in like the middle of April and make it a TV show.

Speaker 146 Well, listen,

Speaker 57 I'd watch it.

Speaker 11 It's like the New York Times endorsement where they had the whole editorial board sit down. They put it in.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 74 That would make a a very watch the whole day.

Speaker 121 Well, yeah, I'll tell you, there's things that we're looking at in the future that might be a little bit different.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 121 But I will tell you, these guys, you know, I didn't get this job just because I'm smart and good looking.

Speaker 136 I got it for 400 pounds, and you need a big guy to run this meeting.

Speaker 11 No one's going to give you any backtalk.

Speaker 20 You literally have the best knock of all time.

Speaker 13 I think that was really just the resume, right?

Speaker 12 Well, they just took a piece of wood and they're like, here, knock on this. Axon, do you mind knocking on this table right now?

Speaker 138 Absolutely.

Speaker 91 Oh, my God. Yeah, that's a Hall of Fame night.

Speaker 34 That's why you got the job, okay?

Speaker 57 Yeah. But,

Speaker 121 you know, let me tell you, we've got to be done by a certain time because we announce our guys live to the world, really in the middle, the kind of the high point of the honor show.

Speaker 146 Right. And so we've got to move.

Speaker 121 But it'll take, you know, many times that I've been here, it's taken 10, 12 hours for the Blue Ribbon Committee that selected this Centennial class.

Speaker 146 You know, they met together for about 21 hours.

Speaker 10 Wow.

Speaker 161 And guys are passionate about it. And one of the things I'd love for, I can't share what goes on in that room or what's said, but I can tell you that

Speaker 121 good stuff, bad stuff.

Speaker 77 Right.

Speaker 77 I mean, the guys really get into it.

Speaker 11 You have to have an honest conversation.

Speaker 161 And that's why it's confidential.

Speaker 121 So that guys can share stuff and bounce it off.

Speaker 121 But I do think it's,

Speaker 158 when you make it into the Hall of Fame, you have gone under an incredible level of scrutiny by a whole lot of people who are experts at doing it.

Speaker 11 Yes. What's interesting is that you've got the Centennial people that are getting in right now.
You expanded the class a little bit. I think

Speaker 11 as the years move forward, you're going to run into a lot of log jams along the way because of how the game has grown in the media.

Speaker 11 It's expanded so much that people are way more familiar with players that played in the early 2000s, late 2000s, up to the modern day than they were even with guys that played in the mid-90s.

Speaker 11 Those guys are, you know, since TV rights weren't ubiquitous, they weren't everywhere, you couldn't watch them on every single bar, those guys are in danger of kind of falling by the wayside, even though they had great careers.

Speaker 11 Is there something that you guys have planned going forward where you make sure that there are some spots in perpetuity for the older players?

Speaker 121 PFT, that's really what the Centennial Class was about.

Speaker 154 You know, I mean, this year we have 10 seniors in that class, and you may not know Mac Speedy or Bobby Dylan or

Speaker 164 Duke Slater.

Speaker 146 You know, but Duke Slater was an African-American who played for 10 years on the NFL from 1920 to 1930.

Speaker 155 Now, let me tell you, you better be a good player at that time

Speaker 161 to play in the NFL during that time.

Speaker 164 A great player.

Speaker 161 And so we have our senior committee, and our senior committee meets all by itself a lot of times, and it's to find guys who may have fallen between the cracks.

Speaker 146 And then we have our contributors committee because the league isn't just those guys who are on the field.

Speaker 146 It's those guys who were owners, owners who paid for payroll out of their kids' college fund because they had to make it.

Speaker 121 Or those general managers who put these teams together.

Speaker 155 Or a great guy like Steve Sable.

Speaker 146 I mean, you guys are a little young.

Speaker 4 No, no, no.

Speaker 12 Big part of the reason why we got in the game.

Speaker 77 I'll tell you, I fell in love with this because of Steve Sable.

Speaker 155 It wasn't just the score.

Speaker 146 All of a sudden, it was the frozen tundra of Land Wofield and that clot of grass coming out of your face mask and a horrible universe.

Speaker 145 To me, that showed you the determination and courage

Speaker 155 and the character of things.

Speaker 77 And then we're looking at a special category just for coaches because sometimes, you know, for a lot of modern era guys, and one of the things the Hall of Fame does that's pretty cool, is you got to wait five years after you retire to be considered.

Speaker 146 So if Tom Brady or Drew Brees, you know, was to retire now,

Speaker 161 or Eli Manning retired just the other day.

Speaker 121 There's a good guy.

Speaker 146 It's five years from now before he's eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 121 And I think that's a pretty smart move because it gives perspective. It allows time for history to settle and to go into it.

Speaker 62 But it's a very difficult process.

Speaker 146 It is, you know, with so many media outlets like yourself, with

Speaker 161 the cell phone and Brett Farve on the internet,

Speaker 121 it is

Speaker 121 there's an opinion everywhere.

Speaker 161 And it's extremely controversial.

Speaker 121 But what I would say is it should be hard to make it into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 136 Yeah, absolutely. It's not the Hall of Very, very good.

Speaker 66 I love that thing.

Speaker 75 It's the Hall of Fame. People forget that.
I love it.

Speaker 43 I want to be your position.

Speaker 11 I want to be the president of the Hall of Very Good.

Speaker 11 What steps do you recommend I take to achieve that dream?

Speaker 146 You know what, PFT, I'll tell you.

Speaker 155 You know, you, to me, and I've only known you here for maybe, you know, 20 minutes,

Speaker 121 but I would tell you, you excel at mediocrity.

Speaker 57 Whoa, that's nice.

Speaker 11 That is the nicest compliment I've ever gotten in my life.

Speaker 74 Not everyone can do that.

Speaker 11 I got butterflies in my shadow.

Speaker 66 You're on your way, buddy. You're on your way.

Speaker 58 Can we talk about you first?

Speaker 11 A knock on my own door. Congratulations, PFT.
Thank you, PFT.

Speaker 16 You didn't play football because you were, quote,

Speaker 121 literally too big to play football. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What does that mean?

Speaker 83 You were a great basketball player. You played in college.

Speaker 14 You played in the pros.

Speaker 158 When I grew up, they weighed you to play football as a kid.

Speaker 57 Okay.

Speaker 77 Okay.

Speaker 155 And, you know, when I was eight or ten years old, you know, I was about PFT side.

Speaker 57 And

Speaker 14 I was like, yeah.

Speaker 27 And they would have put me in with

Speaker 136 15-year-olds.

Speaker 77 But

Speaker 161 we kind of corrected this in the next generation with both my kids.

Speaker 62 Sam played in the NFL and was a three-time All-American NSC.

Speaker 136 And Ben played both in high school and some at Duke.

Speaker 158 But I've always loved football the most.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I love basketball.

Speaker 27 Basketball.

Speaker 153 Basketball got me to college. And for me,

Speaker 136 it's important because we all come from someplace.

Speaker 161 For me, my mom and dad couldn't read or write.

Speaker 153 And if it wasn't for sports, I wouldn't have gone to college. I wouldn't have gone to law school, had the opportunity to play around the world.

Speaker 121 And I certainly wouldn't be sitting with guys like you here.

Speaker 6 Which is probably a downgrade, yep.

Speaker 161 You know, we're sitting in a pretty special place.

Speaker 6 I love that story, though, because you are, you know, the guy who's basically in charge of the history of the game.

Speaker 83 You're the president and CEO of the Hall of Fame, and you love football, from everything I've read, more than pretty much much anyone who's ever walked this earth and you didn't play but that almost is like poetic and perfect because that's how much you love it

Speaker 161 Kat that's kind and I appreciate it I do love it and again what I love about sports and this may be a serious topic for you guys no but what I'll tell you what I care about it is there are so many lessons you can learn from sports you know my guys in the pro football hall of fame in terms of race they were way ahead of the curve and they care about each other and they love each other we just lost crystal last night.

Speaker 146 And you should see my phone blowing up from the Hall of Famers.

Speaker 161 And there's something about that huddle.

Speaker 121 When I was cheering for my son at USC and we'd go to Notre Dame, we'd take 15,000 Trojans with us.

Speaker 153 But let me tell you, you go to Lambeau Field and you're in Atlanta Falcon.

Speaker 155 You're lucky if there's 50 Falcon friends in there.

Speaker 153 But you get into that huddle, and that huddle, when you get in the huddle, nobody says, hey, you Republican or Democrat.

Speaker 136 Hey, before we do this, you know, what's your position on social change?

Speaker 146 Right. You know, frankly, the only thing that matters is me trusting you, you trusting me, the color of our uniform, not the color of our skin.

Speaker 121 And that is just one thin sliver of this.

Speaker 57 And what I love about this, and again, I'm probably getting way too serious for you guys to do that. No, I love it.

Speaker 121 But what I love about this and the job I get to do.

Speaker 161 is, yeah, I got the greatest job in the world because I'm hanging with some of the best football players in the world.

Speaker 136 But I've learned that they're pretty good people, too.

Speaker 146 And the game isn't just for those guys who have a bronze bust or those guys who got paid for it like my son.

Speaker 155 The game is for guys who become firemen and soldiers and police officers and fathers.

Speaker 77 And

Speaker 153 I believe these principals and a whole lot of dedicated coaches who taught him.

Speaker 161 My son who played in the NFL is now coach in high school.

Speaker 146 And he doesn't need to.

Speaker 121 He made a lot of money standing on the shoulders of these other guys, and he'd be the first one to say it.

Speaker 146 But what he wants to do, he wants to have an impact in the lives of some kids the way other coaches had an impact on him.

Speaker 154 And respectfully, you know, when your life is

Speaker 121 screwed up, and every one of us are at some point, okay, when your life is screwed up, you don't go back to your chemistry teacher, your calculus teacher for life advice.

Speaker 162 But I'll tell you.

Speaker 146 Almost all of us go back to that coach.

Speaker 121 And I really believe, Big Cat, that it's because that coach teaches you

Speaker 155 how to keep going when you don't think you can or how to get up when you can't.

Speaker 163 So I love this because there's so it's it's great football and man, I love football, but I don't love it as much as John Madden does.

Speaker 136 Yeah.

Speaker 121 Or some of the other guys that I've been with.

Speaker 146 I mean, I'll tell you, they,

Speaker 155 you know, Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick was on our Blue Ribbon Committee, okay?

Speaker 121 And he said it was one of the best days of his career.

Speaker 121 This guy with eight rings, you know, talking about, you know, being at the Hall of Fame on that day, making history by selecting the Centennial class. These guys love the game.

Speaker 136 Right.

Speaker 161 And to me,

Speaker 121 it's a fun game to be with your friends, to scream and yell, to cheer for your team, to drink a beer.

Speaker 136 But there's so many wonderful lessons in it.

Speaker 161 And

Speaker 121 it's done a lot for me.

Speaker 153 Sports has done a lot for me. It's done a lot for my two boys.

Speaker 165 And I hope that I and we can give back to it.

Speaker 150 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 11 I noticed that you're going on GetUp tomorrow morning.

Speaker 11 It's a good cast tomorrow morning, yeah.

Speaker 64 A lot of people that really like me.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so especially Rex Ryan on Get Up tomorrow.

Speaker 11 Do you think he's going to wear orange and brown? He probably will to try to diffuse the situation a little bit, but don't fall for that.

Speaker 9 Nope.

Speaker 134 No. Don't fall for it.

Speaker 11 Can I give you some things that you can use?

Speaker 101 I would love to.

Speaker 11 You're a quick guy, so I'm sure that you're going to be prepared going into it.

Speaker 11 If he starts talking about your season, say,

Speaker 11 I'd say that you really put your foot in your mouth, but you'd probably enjoy that.

Speaker 20 Got him.

Speaker 98 Boom roasted.

Speaker 70 I don't think you can come back from that.

Speaker 74 No, if you say that, it's over.

Speaker 34 You just walk off.

Speaker 11 You can just walk off like it's an N1 mixtape. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Show's over.

Speaker 39 That's a good one.

Speaker 11 That was my best material.

Speaker 64 Yeah, I think that's all I need.

Speaker 104 The problem that I had was the willingness and commitment to continue talking to people that didn't matter. That was my biggest issue.

Speaker 104 And I know people talked about the chip on your shoulder, and I said it a million times.

Speaker 103 In the league, they don't care about a chip on your shoulder.

Speaker 104 It's grown men.

Speaker 104 What did you learn about the dynamics of the NFL that you couldn't translate that kind of MO from college?

Speaker 139 It's a humbling experience.

Speaker 29 It's a good involvement.

Speaker 27 It's an instrumentality. It is.

Speaker 139 I mean, let's just be honest. I put my foot in my mouth a lot this past year.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you just tell them you're not even the best coach in your family. yeah.
Like, Rob is a better coach, or you know, he looks and he's a better-looking guy, and he's got better hair.

Speaker 64 Yeah, absolutely, the better hair part.

Speaker 6 You can also do the just the casual, hey, Rex, it looks like you lost weight, knowing he didn't.

Speaker 19 So, it's like, what the hell?

Speaker 45 Like, I'm still really fat.

Speaker 12 Like, that's a great one.

Speaker 13 That always hurts my feelings when people say that to me, and I haven't lost weight.

Speaker 10 You look good, though.

Speaker 9 Thank you.

Speaker 12 That hurt my feelings.

Speaker 6 Um, I've had a bad, I'm dealing with a bad picture right now of my right breast that has been going around the internet.

Speaker 32 Whatever, it's you know, bad timing, Shadows,

Speaker 74 everything, like, it's a whole.

Speaker 57 He's excluding, yeah.

Speaker 60 Right.

Speaker 11 And he did get off a plane like two days ago. So again, the older two did that.

Speaker 59 Right.

Speaker 12 Okay, moving along in the calendar.

Speaker 20 Combine, Indy, another thing we'll probably miss this year.

Speaker 11 Sucks. Yeah.
I mean, the Combine, I think they're just going to hold it remotely. This is going to be a great season for lying about your height if you're a player.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 You can get away with murder.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 18 And also just like doing the frozen face, if they ask you something like, hey, is your mom a stripper?

Speaker 36 Yeah. And you just be like, what?

Speaker 11 You cut it. That out.
Was it Jeff Ireland? Hey, Des Bryant.

Speaker 86 Your mom's a hooker, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, right. Yeah.
But yeah, the combine's going to be really strange this year.

Speaker 11 I think it's going to be all done on Zoom, but if you were to put money on it, I would put money that the coaches are still going to go to Indy and just get drunk for a week.

Speaker 60 Yes, that's really what it's going to be.

Speaker 120 Absolutely.

Speaker 11 It's Disney World for scouts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they absolutely.

Speaker 13 They probably are like tell their wives and kids, like, you got to get out of the house because I'm just going to treat this like it is,

Speaker 72 what is it? What are the state camps?

Speaker 11 Prime 57. St.
Elmo's. St.
Elmo's. He's going to be doing Rails of Wasabi.

Speaker 19 So, alright, so we have Adam Schefter, which was the assault.

Speaker 31 It was the first time we'd seen him since the assault.

Speaker 47 And then we have Mike Vrabel

Speaker 20 talking to him about the Combine, the playoff run the Titans had, and a lot more.

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Speaker 11 And now, here's Adam Schefter and Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 96 assault.

Speaker 123 Assault, we're off.

Speaker 33 Assault. I figured we'd start there.

Speaker 20 I mean, it's been on my mind.

Speaker 60 I was actually thinking about this before you got here.

Speaker 19 If I could sit down and talk to anyone regarding that situation, I wouldn't talk to Miles Garrett.

Speaker 12 I wouldn't talk to Mason Rudolph and say, hey, how'd that feel?

Speaker 133 Not the Pounceys, not Baker.

Speaker 19 I just want to know, Adam Schefter, assault.

Speaker 82 What was it that night?

Speaker 11 Battery. It was battery.

Speaker 156 It was battery. It was battery.

Speaker 34 Okay, the next time I was there. It was actual harm.

Speaker 116 But

Speaker 67 were you as upset as you watched that as the assault tweet made me think you were?

Speaker 82 Basically, you're watching it, and the only thing I could think of is he just assaulted that guy.

Speaker 60 Assault.

Speaker 11 He assaulted him.

Speaker 60 Assault is. It's assaulted?

Speaker 27 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 11 Can you say that again?

Speaker 33 Perfect. He assaulted him.

Speaker 60 No, no, no, the way that you just said it.

Speaker 39 With a little animation.

Speaker 119 Assault.

Speaker 81 Assault. Assault.

Speaker 57 It was assault.

Speaker 90 That's going to wind up.

Speaker 60 Assault. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 96 We're going to beep that into

Speaker 96 the beginning. Absolutely beep.

Speaker 27 We got to beat it.

Speaker 6 Did you think after, I think the period is what really said it over the top too.

Speaker 4 Assault period.

Speaker 56 Just something about it.

Speaker 12 That tweet might be my favorite tweet from 2019.

Speaker 82 You know, the funny thing is, I haven't seen it show up anywhere since then.

Speaker 148 Like, nobody's tweeted it at me.

Speaker 27 You guys have to be able to do it.

Speaker 34 Did you realize?

Speaker 82 This is the first time that anybody's brought that up since then.

Speaker 61 It is great.

Speaker 11 You can apply the tweet assault to just about anything that happens online.

Speaker 11 Anytime someone dunks on Ravel, Assault is just a great reply to it.

Speaker 11 It's like something you always need to have in your your back pocket for them.

Speaker 127 And credit to you, I think that five years ago, Adam Schafter probably wouldn't have had fun with it, but you did right away.

Speaker 49 You kind of took the piss out of it, which is great because then it makes it funnier where it's like, yeah, it's assault.

Speaker 148 Well, period. Again,

Speaker 148 I've been through this enough to know that it's not going to go away, that it's going to follow me around.

Speaker 148 And so now we'll just have to come up with something again in the future, whatever that may be,

Speaker 148 to supplant

Speaker 39 assault.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it'll happen naturally at some point.

Speaker 148 So Organically, yep.

Speaker 11 In the aftermath of the assault.

Speaker 131 Yeah.

Speaker 74 I personally.

Speaker 34 I feel like the meow game is super true.

Speaker 11 That's the only times we can say it.

Speaker 11 But after the assault,

Speaker 11 I was very well connected in certain league circles. And I heard that there were rumors that there may have been some tapes out there.
You're a big, the tapes exist guy.

Speaker 3 Oh, we'll get to that.

Speaker 11 We'll get to that again in a second.

Speaker 11 Did you also hear the same rumors that there were tapes of what was said on the field just prior to the assault?

Speaker 148 I've never heard anything like that. I've never heard the tapes.

Speaker 82 I don't know that those tapes exist.

Speaker 77 And

Speaker 148 there are a wide array of opinions about what did and didn't happen that night.

Speaker 57 And I don't think we'll ever know what did and didn't happen.

Speaker 148 I mean, it's amazing to me that

Speaker 82 Miles Garrett says this, says he heard it, and Mason Rudolph is

Speaker 148 vehement in his denials and he's defended by his coach and you've got people sticking up for him

Speaker 82 so who's right right now so in terms of miles garrett going forward i can't believe we're still doing miles garrett and mason rudoff and the so assault thing months later i mean it was assault this is quite a night i'm so glad i didn't go to bed before that well that really the only that's the funny thing is i actually did oh so you woke up and that was the first thing you were asked dad even makes it and i go that's assault that's assault you're like you're like one of those precogs in minority report you were asleep in your pool and you're like wait there's a crime that's about to happen

Speaker 82 Like, you're dozing off.

Speaker 82 I was dozing off. I was watching it.

Speaker 148 There's a TV in my closet. And my wife.
Well, that's true.

Speaker 82 Yeah, this is true.

Speaker 167 So, yeah.

Speaker 148 So, basically, while she watches her show, I go into my little closet with a little TV and I watch Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 148 And oftentimes, to be perfectly frank, I'll be sitting in my chair and I'm watching the screen and I just kind of doze off. And I happened to doze off and I woke up.
I'm like, what the heck?

Speaker 57 What the heck just happened?

Speaker 118 So you were watching this in your closet in a tiny TV, woke up, assaulted.

Speaker 66 Salt.

Speaker 34 That's

Speaker 34 so much better.

Speaker 96 So much better.

Speaker 86 That adds so much color to the scene.

Speaker 21 Yeah, and it's also like,

Speaker 13 that this is obviously going to be very something that's not relatable to like the wider audience, but in terms of content creators, there's nothing worse than when you wake up and something big has happened and you're like, wait, what?

Speaker 86 I slept through Kevin Ware's leg injury.

Speaker 19 I literally took a nap during it.

Speaker 64 Oh my God, are you okay?

Speaker 119 And I'm not okay, but time froze.

Speaker 74 I woke up.

Speaker 58 I was like, why is there no time on, like, why has there only been 30 seconds that have gone by?

Speaker 13 And I've been asleep for 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 And then I realized, Kevin, where the whole injury, but that is the worst feeling, waking up and be like, what just happened?

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 18 Jolted awake. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Right?

Speaker 82 That's a sensory assault.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 49 Exactly. That's a big time sensory assault.

Speaker 11 People live life on the West Coast as they wake up and it's noon on the East Coast and they've already missed who knows how many examples of assaults on the West.

Speaker 148 That's one of the challenging parts of being on the West Coast. Like either you're getting up late, like you can't even imagine, like the world is going on.
Right. Stock markets markets crash.

Speaker 82 You would freak if you lived on the west coast. Well, it'll be a different deal.
Like,

Speaker 57 you'd be freaking, yeah, I don't know how I could live there.

Speaker 32 No, you would, you would be freaking.

Speaker 50 Yeah, we were lucky enough that I uh had bet the second half of that game, so that's why we were still watching because I was like, oh my god, this they could still score like a backdoor cover or something, and then assault happened.

Speaker 133 Um, you just mentioned something that I want to do a follow-up question.

Speaker 166 What's your favorite Real Housewives?

Speaker 96 Well,

Speaker 148 I watch the New York one, I watch the New Jersey

Speaker 122 Do you like Bethany?

Speaker 148 I do like Bethany.

Speaker 99 I don't like you then.

Speaker 11 You don't like her?

Speaker 6 She got divorced from the Countess, the Count, and she still calls herself a Countess.

Speaker 148 No, that's not Bethany.

Speaker 130 Oh, God.

Speaker 27 No, Bethany and Louisa.

Speaker 60 Skatie Margarita girl.

Speaker 91 Yeah, exactly. Luann.

Speaker 26 Do you like Luann? Sorry, that's what I meant.

Speaker 57 Luann.

Speaker 58 I think Luann likes her. I think Luann likes herself a lot more.

Speaker 30 All right.

Speaker 62 All right. So you're New York and New Jersey.

Speaker 99 That's kind of me.

Speaker 12 Sometimes throwing a little OC, but they're firing all the women out there, so it's going to be weird.

Speaker 82 New Jersey, New York, yeah.

Speaker 95 Bethany.

Speaker 148 Bethany, yeah, she, the guy she got divorced from on TV, he seemed like the nicest guy in the world.

Speaker 50 Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 6 I mean, who that's crazy that a reality television show didn't really show like the person's true personality one way or the other.

Speaker 119 Oh, really?

Speaker 60 I can't believe that's not all legit.

Speaker 96 It's not like the real world.

Speaker 86 I don't think what happens on the real world is it's real.

Speaker 60 That's why they call it the real world.

Speaker 12 I don't know about that guy, but I the five minutes I saw him in a heavily edited program, I think he was a good guy.

Speaker 13 Okay, we now welcome on recurring recurring guest and very good friend of the program. It is coach.

Speaker 126 I call him coach.

Speaker 65 It's like Rabe Rabes. He gets mad when I call him coach.

Speaker 149 It's like Eli Manning. I was like, congrats, man.
What a career. Unbelievable, phenomenal.
He's like, thank you, coach. And I'm like, Eli, like, cut the bullshit.
I type back.

Speaker 149 Can we just go with Rabes? He goes, yes, sir.

Speaker 11 That's a very Eli story, right?

Speaker 17 Are you mad at Eli at all about the Super Bowls?

Speaker 57 No.

Speaker 101 I mean, that's sports. That team got better.
You know,

Speaker 149 that's a great example of a team that was a wild card that played us very tight at the end of the year, the last game, and they improved.

Speaker 149 To their credit, they were playing the best football at the end of the year. It's a great message to not only my team, but a lot of people.

Speaker 11 Is he a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 149 You know, I don't vote for the Hall of Fame, but I mean, I really try not to focus on Hall of Fame and this and that. The guy played really well in big games.

Speaker 85 Okay, so he is. Yes.
Or he isn't.

Speaker 149 But he played very well in big games. So he is.
I mean, if you guys got to vote, would you vote Eli?

Speaker 11 Well, it's not the Hall very good. And he was very great.

Speaker 34 Don't hide behind those attacks.

Speaker 74 But you could do the line.

Speaker 60 You want me to go raw dog in this interview?

Speaker 27 No, don't do that.

Speaker 27 Careful.

Speaker 60 We'll all blow up. Come on, Braves.

Speaker 60 All right.

Speaker 11 I like that you're committed to the vest game, by the way. I love that.

Speaker 57 Even though you're not

Speaker 34 a team issue.

Speaker 60 That's it. So you

Speaker 101 talking about the Giants, your team obviously didn't get all the way to the Super Bowl, but there was a little bit of that peaking at the right time last year.

Speaker 12 Are you, were you, after the season over, could you have a moment where you're like, man, that was really good?

Speaker 149 It was, and I tried to tell our team that. I think they were frustrated and everybody was disappointed that we weren't going to be able to play for a championship.

Speaker 149 But I was proud of the way that they continue to improve from where we were the early part of the season. And we were playing our best football late.

Speaker 149 But I think they also realized, and everybody did, that that's a tough road to go down a four straight road playoff games. Essentially what we did was Houston, New England, Baltimore, Kansas City.

Speaker 149 And that's not the way. That's not the recipe to win a championship.

Speaker 149 We're going to have to play well well enough during the season to be able to host some of those games yeah so during uh the start of that playoff run you guys play against new england that was a great game before the game you played what was it catch me if you can like a clip as like a motivational so i i always enjoy that movie uh with frank abign jr and the dad you know is is in debt and he needs to get a loan and he pulls his son up and in his cadillac and they're in these nice suits and young frank doesn't understand what they're doing and his dad's like, we're going to act like we have money.

Speaker 149 And this bank manager is going to walk out here and he's going to open the door for us. And Frank's still figuring all this out.
And then he says, you know why the Yankees always win?

Speaker 149 He said, because they have Mickey Manley. He says, no, because everybody's always staring at the pinstripes.
And I kind of like it.

Speaker 149 And just a nice message to be like, there's going to be, when we get there and we go out on the field, there's going to be six banners that say world champion.

Speaker 58 Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 149 Like, that's not going to determine the game. Was my only point was like, let's not stare up at the banners and worry about what they've done.
We got to go try to compete with them.

Speaker 86 That's like Hoosier's measuring the hoop.

Speaker 149 Nope, same difference.

Speaker 62 10 feet. 10 feet.
Same thing.

Speaker 149 Ollie getting on the

Speaker 4 shoulders. 10 feet.
All-time moment.

Speaker 75 I almost want to go call my dad and try right now.

Speaker 57 Yeah,

Speaker 11 you probably knew all the tricks that Belichick was going to pull out, like putting the

Speaker 11 giant thermometers in the hallways, letting you know that it's actually like 10 degrees colder than you think that it is.

Speaker 149 Just keeping everybody updated on the weather report. Yeah.

Speaker 48 All right, so let's talk about the tricks when you guys, when you basically became a time traveler in that game, how long had you known that that loophole was there?

Speaker 149 For a while. It's just unfortunate that we were never in a situation to use it.

Speaker 86 You have to be ahead in the fourth quarter

Speaker 149 in that situation with the clock running outside of five minutes. And whatever the league chooses to do, we're going to...
We're going to play by the rules that they give us.

Speaker 149 And that was available to us.

Speaker 31 When you saw the situation and it first clicked, like, uh-oh, here we go.

Speaker 58 Like, I'm about to time travel.

Speaker 86 Well, I think you just try to. Especially to Belichick.

Speaker 149 You know, I think what you try to do is try to anticipate what the situations in the game can be.

Speaker 6 You are exciting.

Speaker 71 Don't give me Coach Speak.

Speaker 58 Well, no, I'm just trying to say, it's not like spur to moment.

Speaker 149 It's like, okay, depending on what happens here, like, are we going to go for it?

Speaker 149 You hit the and then we had a penalty, so it was like, let's just

Speaker 35 rainbow road shortcut.

Speaker 6 You just jumped past like, you know, half of the track.

Speaker 55 Right.

Speaker 149 It was, it's, it's something that we felt like could help us win a game. As Coach Speak as I could possibly be, whether whoever was on the other sideline, we would have executed that situation.

Speaker 11 In that moment, though, as it was happening, as you were time traveling, were you trying hard not to smile because you knew how cool it was?

Speaker 149 No, I mean, I think that I've realized I've gotten good at being able to vomit and puke in my mouth without showing when bad things happen.

Speaker 149 So I try to do the same thing when good things happen, is just try to stay, keep my composure.

Speaker 13 Okay, so after the game, after that game, you had some fun with Tom brady's hyenas video uh do you think that's gonna hurt your recruitment of him

Speaker 149 i thought that was actually a great compliment uh to our football team nice because

Speaker 149 that's who i think we want to be is is these animals that that hunt and travel in packs and um are competitive um vicious and and i think that's how we um try to approach our our game and our preparation

Speaker 45 all right uh well so we we just did Adam Schefter and Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 11 What happened after the Combine Big Ten?

Speaker 70 Well, shit kind of fell apart.

Speaker 48 I remember vividly, too, watching the last game I watched that I can remember is Wisconsin versus Indiana, Wisconsin winning a share of the Big Ten and being like, I can't wait for the tournament.

Speaker 112 And then

Speaker 51 all the tournaments were canceled.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 54 Well, no, Gonzaga won.

Speaker 63 Gonzaga won their tournament.

Speaker 36 That happened.

Speaker 11 Duke lost.

Speaker 60 Duke lost.

Speaker 11 Did not qualify for the NCAA.

Speaker 46 There were a couple other tournaments, I think, that actually took place i think they played one game in the big east yeah right i went to that one yeah one half one half of a game no they played one full game the second round they played one half yeah saint i think it was st john's and georgetown were like it we're playing yeah chris mullen was out there like i will punch the coronavirus in the face if i see it florida state counted themselves the win yeah actually they played a round of the acc as well because i'm pretty sure nc unc lost and i had a future on them and then couldn't they have just not played yeah and then the world just stopped all of a sudden.

Speaker 13 And I said I would inject myself with COVID.

Speaker 62 But whatever.

Speaker 18 We'll put that clip in there.

Speaker 56 PFT, I'm going to say something that I may at some point regret, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 11 Permission to go there, granted.

Speaker 45 If they cancel, and they, I don't even know who decides this, they.

Speaker 53 Big time they. Obama.

Speaker 39 Big they.

Speaker 98 If they cancel March Madness, I'm not talking about play it with no fans, which would make it significantly less fun, but still we can watch it.

Speaker 127 If they cancel it, outright cancel it, I will get coronavirus the next day.

Speaker 57 Wow.

Speaker 100 I will get coronavirus next day because I do not want to be healthy in a world where March Madness does not exist.

Speaker 12 Yeah, it happened.

Speaker 17 When don't we get the

Speaker 20 vaccine? I will take it right away.

Speaker 6 We'll do a live stream of us taking the vaccine.

Speaker 11 That would technically count as injecting yourself with coronavirus, right? If you got the one that is the live vaccine.

Speaker 34 I'll get them all.

Speaker 35 I will get every single one.

Speaker 74 Like them all?

Speaker 27 Like Pokemon?

Speaker 98 Yeah, we'll do it on live stream so that the public knows that it's okay to get the vaccine.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 54 We'll do that. We'll do that for the people.

Speaker 42 All right. So.

Speaker 11 That means that we get to skip to the front of the line. Correct.

Speaker 9 We're essential.

Speaker 11 That's just a coincidence. We did not plan that.

Speaker 57 I did have a moment where I was like, are we essential? No. Okay.

Speaker 11 I think

Speaker 11 podcasters are the most essential business in the world.

Speaker 60 Second. It's like second.

Speaker 11 Us first, and then the people who actually make the vaccine.

Speaker 34 Well, you should get it before them.

Speaker 43 I was like, wait, we're not hospital workers.

Speaker 70 We're not frontline workers, but are we essential?

Speaker 9 In a way, we are on the frontline.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 32 I mean, we are the, they're our first responders right now who are listening to this podcast.

Speaker 9 I mean, we actually

Speaker 11 make the economy go with the amount of seamless that we order.

Speaker 61 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 26 So

Speaker 6 we have our COVID special. So it's talking about coronavirus before it actually happened.

Speaker 19 Dungeon and Dragons, Love is Blind.

Speaker 12 Remember Love is Blind.

Speaker 57 Love is Blind.

Speaker 11 Remember Mestica?

Speaker 4 Messica. Oh, my God.

Speaker 11 I hope she's doing well.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 56 Blake Griffin winning the Blake of the Year, Horace Grant for the last dance, and Barbara Corcoran.

Speaker 43 So this is a full COVID, what happened in those six months mashup.

Speaker 47 So get ready for that.

Speaker 11 There were probably a million interviews that we did during COVID when we were on Zoom that I just don't remember.

Speaker 72 Like, remember we interviewed LeVar Ball?

Speaker 12 I did not until you said that.

Speaker 11 You remember we interviewed Jack, what's his name? Jack Pound?

Speaker 39 Dick Pound. Dick Pound.

Speaker 36 Dick Pound from the National Olympic Committee. Yeah, there's a,

Speaker 52 we interviewed Mark from Love is Blind.

Speaker 39 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 75 Remember that? Yes.

Speaker 102 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 All right, so here's our COVID special

Speaker 20 part of my tick. Weird year.
Yeah.

Speaker 97 Okay, it is that time.

Speaker 13 Again, we have our very, very good friend Tim Woods back.

Speaker 44 How do we start?

Speaker 169 In theory, I would start by, first of all, just highlighting who your characters are.

Speaker 169 And I know we didn't do this last time, but in theory, you can come up with a name for your character and decide as much backstory for them as you want.

Speaker 169 New players, I never worry too much about that because we're going to be learning who these characters are together. But I'll say generally, you would pick your character.

Speaker 169 And what we could do is we had some great character selections last time. We had a barbarian, a bard, and a warlock.
That's a great group.

Speaker 169 We can pick those same characters again if we want, or we could pick different characters. characters like a different fighty type, a different spell caster.
We didn't, we don't have, well,

Speaker 169 the bard is kind of a sneaky still skill-based character, so we have a lot of the best characters we could get.

Speaker 169 Was uh, anyone, uh, and I'll say, I always say there's four different categories: the fighty types, the spellcasters, the healers, and the sneaky skill-based characters.

Speaker 169 Was anyone interested in hearing about them, or did they just want to grab their old character?

Speaker 11 I personally feel like we should run back our characters and add Billy to our crew.

Speaker 47 Yeah, so I, so, all right, so I'd be a barbarian, uh, I'm a gift to the bard,

Speaker 34 right?

Speaker 27 And I'm a warlock, a warlock.

Speaker 52 So then, Billy.

Speaker 61 Is that like Gimli from Game of Thrones?

Speaker 66 Is that Warlocks?

Speaker 57 I mean, Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 169 Lord of the Rings, absolutely. So Gimli the dwarf would kind of be like a barbarian or maybe a fighter, a big, big bruiser.

Speaker 169 However, there is a classic archetype of the Dwarven Cleric, the dwarf who follows the god of Morodin. And that kind of dwarf is more of a healer, let's say.
Okay.

Speaker 11 Can my bard also be a dwarf?

Speaker 169 You or Bard can be any race you want it to be.

Speaker 51 If you want to be a dwarf, absolutely.

Speaker 74 Okay, so

Speaker 1 what is the fourth category? Yeah,

Speaker 72 make sure you really write it down.

Speaker 44 Very short.

Speaker 102 Five, six. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Super short.

Speaker 105 So what is the fourth category that we don't have now?

Speaker 1 So we have a barbarian, a bard, and a wiz, and a warlock.

Speaker 6 What's the fourth category we don't have?

Speaker 169 In theory, the healer types would be the ones that you don't have yet. So I mentioned the cleric, and that would be the fourth kind of perfect niche that you'd be filling right now.

Speaker 169 So the warlock's kind of your spellcaster. The cleric is your healer.
The barbarian is your big fighty type. And the bard would be kind of the more skill-based, the talkative, the face.

Speaker 11 Also, the barbarian is like 20 pounds overweight.

Speaker 62 No, that's lost a little bit of weight.

Speaker 61 Write that part down.

Speaker 11 So the barbarian shaved too early and his face looks shaved.

Speaker 40 That's true.

Speaker 55 So, all right, so the Billy's going to be a cleric.

Speaker 169 Absolutely. A dwarven cleric, I assume.
Or you can be a little bit more.

Speaker 27 No,

Speaker 36 he's going to be a giant cleric. Can he be a giant cleric?

Speaker 169 Yeah.

Speaker 169 um, there is a race called Goliaths who are like half giants.

Speaker 51 They're not quite full giants, yeah.

Speaker 169 They're playable, but you can be a big

Speaker 169 and you grow rock out of your like head, like your arms and legs are covered with rocks.

Speaker 66 He's basically Rick Smith, perfect, perfect, and cool tattoos.

Speaker 113 Okay,

Speaker 169 so that's interesting to me because if you're a Goliath cleric, then actually you worship the Goliath gods, and uh, I'll admit, I don't know a thing about them, so we get to get pretty creative about that.

Speaker 118 So, also, Tim, we should mention that

Speaker 32 PFT,

Speaker 47 Wayne,

Speaker 74 and Ehrlich,

Speaker 31 they just played in a seven-game series in ping pong, and there's a lot of tension in the room.

Speaker 135 I am tension-free. I feel great.

Speaker 11 No, you're not tension-free.

Speaker 27 I have tension free.

Speaker 11 I feel great if I get awarded a free bogus point in game.

Speaker 157 It may spill over a little into this game.

Speaker 6 I just want you to know.

Speaker 128 And also, there's tension between me and Berserker Billy because he's a fucking idiot, and it drives me nuts.

Speaker 33 But here we are.

Speaker 118 I think you might, I can't remember.

Speaker 87 Did you say you watched any sports?

Speaker 169 I watch a little bit of no.

Speaker 89 All right, but you saw me throw there.

Speaker 45 You would say that's better than a Division III quarterback.

Speaker 12 That's like a Division I quarterback, right?

Speaker 169 I would say definitely at least Division II. We're talking about.

Speaker 57 Okay, all right, all right, good, good.

Speaker 169 That could be the 23. However, I'd say with the 23, that felt like a division one.

Speaker 34 Yes, yeah, baby. Definitely a lot better than a Division III wide receiver.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Great throw.

Speaker 55 That was a great throw.

Speaker 32 Here we go.

Speaker 13 Insight.

Speaker 84 18.

Speaker 70 I got the hot hand.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Can I put a spell on Ehrlich to make him super confident?

Speaker 119 Essentially, we're worried about the dragon.

Speaker 11 He's got a lead on me.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Make him think he can reach.

Speaker 118 Shouldn't we be focused on the dragon, Tim?

Speaker 11 No, I think we need to take out this dragon. Hank, you're the best weapon that we have.
Yeah.

Speaker 169 If you roll any wisdom-based skills like perception or insight.

Speaker 10 Can I use

Speaker 57 it? It's my turn, please.

Speaker 41 No, I'm just going going to ask a question.

Speaker 41 Ehrlich, can I ask a question?

Speaker 87 Ehrlich, I appreciate if you're waiting your turn, Ehrlich, have enough wisdom to figure out if this dragon, like, can you see in the future?

Speaker 43 Will he be able to see if this dragon's just going to leave?

Speaker 169 The dragon is taken aback like a cat. He rears back for a moment, like, oh, what are you doing? Eyes widen, and then in anger, her eyes narrow, and she snaps at you to bite you.

Speaker 57 I know, I forgot to ask her.

Speaker 28 Oh, here she's a dragon.

Speaker 34 You didn't ask her.

Speaker 34 You gotta respect

Speaker 122 the way of the dragon.

Speaker 169 I'll give you a chance.

Speaker 119 What do you say you dare her?

Speaker 64 I'd be like,

Speaker 128 I just want to grant you freedom in a life free from servitude.

Speaker 11 Do you just assume that every woman that you run into is dominated by somebody else?

Speaker 14 And you're obviously.

Speaker 88 Billy basically just walked up and he's like, hey, is this guy bothering you to me?

Speaker 57 It's like,

Speaker 157 he's a jerk.

Speaker 57 Can I put you a drink?

Speaker 15 Billy literally commanded this dragon to come over with a beam of light.

Speaker 57 And he's like, hey, can I free you from whoever made you come here?

Speaker 128 Yeah, dude, let's just try to heal the dragon

Speaker 168 so that we can ride around on the dragon.

Speaker 38 Hey, Billy, like, come on.

Speaker 11 So, she just, the dragon bit you because you tried to kiss it.

Speaker 9 Yeah. It doesn't want your advances.

Speaker 11 But, but

Speaker 11 she's playing hard to get.

Speaker 128 No, Billy, she tried to kill him.

Speaker 9 She wanted it, dude.

Speaker 19 No, no means no. Okay, fuck.

Speaker 57 Sorry. All right.

Speaker 59 Billy, do not try to fuck this dragon.

Speaker 74 I want to ride it.

Speaker 57 Don't jump on it.

Speaker 66 No, Billy.

Speaker 88 We got to get rid of this dragon.

Speaker 58 We're better just ride the dragon.

Speaker 21 Dude, we're all trying to beat the dragon, and you're trying to fuck it, and it's not working.

Speaker 151 All right, here we go. Here's the dragon out of here.

Speaker 34 Here's roll

Speaker 151 seven. Let's do the second roll.

Speaker 34 20!

Speaker 97 That drug is my bitch!

Speaker 70 Yeah, Billy!

Speaker 169 And two things happen. First of all, you said you were trying to fly this dragon away from here, right?

Speaker 29 Just away!

Speaker 27 Away somewhere private, somewhere he can go and have some private.

Speaker 39 Take it to like an hourly rate hotel.

Speaker 87 He wants to be like, hey, babe, you want to get out of here?

Speaker 169 The dragon is letting out a roar. Forget this village, giant.

Speaker 28 Woo!

Speaker 169 She takes off into the air and all the cultists are like, yeah, Lennathon. And then they see her with you on her head fly away from the village.

Speaker 29 Oh, no, what's going on?

Speaker 169 And then, and this will be the cliffhanger, as you're flying away, Lennathon, she shakes her head left, she shakes her head right, and then finally she says, all right

Speaker 169 little rock man

Speaker 169 let's talk you and i what do you want

Speaker 169 with a critical hit you think this dragon is willing to maybe become friends with you yes

Speaker 95 dude i'm so happy i told you to do that all on so we'll catch up to

Speaker 57 brunch

Speaker 9 dish about how your night was billy like last night was a movie.

Speaker 169 First, he introduces himself. He extends a gauntleted hand and he flips up his visor.
And you see, this guy is definitely built. He's a strong-looking older dude.
And he extends a hand and he says,

Speaker 169 Sir Orgerton, Sir Orgerton, pleasure to meet you. You can just call me Sir O.
Sir O.

Speaker 169 It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm taking command of this whole situation, and I'm seeing a lot of cultists outside of here right now.

Speaker 80 This is Coach O. This is Coach O.

Speaker 36 This is Coach O.

Speaker 9 We met Coach O in Dungeons and and dragons yeah so jake ask a question right

Speaker 33 yeah what do you want i mean you you're you're a journalist come on yeah so coach o uh coming off that big title uh ask him a question about d and d though

Speaker 169 no time for my i have an illustrious career i've done a great job all of my work with the right now we're

Speaker 169 and they've got prisoners and i know some information about this cult all right he's got a game plan find out what his game jake just tried to do a like talk about the game.

Speaker 57 Yeah, yeah. Come on,

Speaker 34 come on, Jake.

Speaker 53 Let's reframe this.

Speaker 41 Yeah, this is a pregame interview.

Speaker 11 So let's find out what his tactics are for his plan of attack.

Speaker 9 Get some bullets in board material, Jake.

Speaker 63 All right.

Speaker 97 What are your opponent's biggest weaknesses?

Speaker 93 Good, Jake.

Speaker 169 He says, well, you got rid of the dragon. That was the number one thing.

Speaker 103 I'm really glad you got rid of that dragon. I see it flying away.
Perfect.

Speaker 34 This is great.

Speaker 169 And he gestures at his insignia, and you can tell it's some kind of a strange cat on his shoulder. Can't tell exactly what, and he goes, go, Ligers!

Speaker 171 Go, Ligers!

Speaker 169 To find out what happens next, the last, you know, in theory, at the end of initiative,

Speaker 169 Turn still has to go, Berserker Billy, the cult is fleeing, and then Lenathon, the dragon, looks back at you and says, ha ha,

Speaker 169 this was fun.

Speaker 169 What should we do next? And she's willing to hear you out on whatever you suggest next.

Speaker 11 Why don't we just quit the town into like the sickest play place ever?

Speaker 96 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 74 We can build it like a medieval Dave and Buster's with arrows and shit.

Speaker 172 So who wants to live here?

Speaker 34 Are you threatening us?

Speaker 80 Yeah, I'm fucking threatening you. I got a dragon.

Speaker 36 Fuck you, Billy. No, no.

Speaker 34 Who are you to live?

Speaker 41 Who wants to live?

Speaker 80 It's my fucking castle. All right.

Speaker 11 I say, I would like to ask the dragon, yo, do you want to just take over this castle and torture my boss?

Speaker 96 God damn it, Billy.

Speaker 169 Go ahead and roll a persuasion check. You're rolling two times and taking the higher number.
You have advantage.

Speaker 11 Yeah, who's going to commit treason and strong now?

Speaker 57 Who's strung now? Go ahead and roll, bitch.

Speaker 35 One. Seven.

Speaker 74 Seven. Go ahead now.

Speaker 39 Basically the same thing as one.

Speaker 169 Do the next one.

Speaker 11 Here comes a one.

Speaker 27 Nine of us!

Speaker 35 You're fucked, boys.

Speaker 169 Is it a critical hit?

Speaker 157 Yeah, 19.

Speaker 61 Humans hate magical creatures.

Speaker 25 I hate you. No, yeah.

Speaker 94 You better live? Billy, you better kill all of you.

Speaker 74 I have the power here. I am the cup that's for right now.

Speaker 157 You come at the king.

Speaker 94 You best not miss.

Speaker 94 I have the power here. Billy.

Speaker 5 This is the magical world.

Speaker 84 I have the power. Yeah, I know who's on the dragon.

Speaker 55 You better kill all three of us because otherwise, you're fine.

Speaker 11 Also, Billy, what you have to understand is this dragon right now doesn't give a shit about your small little games.

Speaker 11 This dragon's gonna leave your ass.

Speaker 39 Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 35 Do your thing. Tell you what your thing.
Go with your girlfriend and destroy what we've built together.

Speaker 34 Go ahead, no. This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 39 This is better.

Speaker 115 Kill all of us.

Speaker 169 You need it. It sounds like with a two that Berserker Billy rolled.
He had a plus four on this. So, what you need is a six or higher, and you have a plus five on it.

Speaker 115 So I need a one,

Speaker 11 big cat.

Speaker 169 So here's the thing. I'll be very clear about this.
Something crazy always happens if you get a one. So if you get a one, you still grab berserker Billy, but the dragon takes off with both of you.

Speaker 96 Wait, oh, wait, what?

Speaker 169 Because of that bad roll, one way or another, berserker bill, you were hanging a little low on this dragon.

Speaker 57 Okay, all right.

Speaker 94 All right. So here we go.

Speaker 34 Bad roll, Billy.

Speaker 82 What happens on a two?

Speaker 57 Here comes the roll, Billy.

Speaker 11 You die on a two.

Speaker 100 18. I think that's five.

Speaker 53 I think he jumps too far.

Speaker 169 You jump up. You are, since you rolled well, getting exactly where you want to get to, and you are grabbing Berserker Billy and tackling him off the dragon's back.

Speaker 169 The dragon takes off, looks down at you, and I will get one roll,

Speaker 169 then looks at you, Berserker Billy, and just shakes her head and slides away to the south, where the cultists seem to be fleeing towards, and all of the army with the dragon seems to be flying to the south.

Speaker 169 But you do see, to be fair, for all your critical hits, the dragon look back once at you, looking sad, and then again, like, I shouldn't have done that. I feel bad.
You know, I forget it.

Speaker 51 Man, she keeps flying, but she did have reservation.

Speaker 11 Okay, she's gonna go have brunch with her dragon friend Smart and be like, you'll never believe the worst date I just had. Okay, so I'm really in a no-win situation.
Really, yeah.

Speaker 42 Is there any sort of like almost like a situation that you made yourself when you tried to kill us?

Speaker 11 Well, I thought, well, you know what?

Speaker 174 I'm going to, is there any way I can take it?

Speaker 42 You thought we were going to take your side

Speaker 11 by fighting ourselves?

Speaker 57 Let's just remind people that Billy on the last episode tried to kill us.

Speaker 12 This is not unprovoked.

Speaker 59 I just tried to kill Norm.

Speaker 27 Okay.

Speaker 34 No, but it was the strongest.

Speaker 11 He was the start of the beef battle against everybody.

Speaker 74 I have no beef with you.

Speaker 11 You thought I was just going to let my man sit out there and get a tap. Come on, dude.
Well, he hasn't been the best to all of us.

Speaker 169 I think he's been pretty good the only person i've been mean to is you because you're you're norm the barbarian you now have the berserker rage ability where you can now swing two times just like berserker billy used to be

Speaker 105 except you can do it every turn so all right so much as you want just to clarify i'm stronger than billy I now have the only thing that he brought to the table, and he's still very much dead.

Speaker 20 And he's still

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to make sure that that was all clear.

Speaker 118 Absolutely.

Speaker 169 And you are now a berserker barbarian with a lot of hit points. 13.
13 and the Griffin has a plus five and actually has advantage. Roll one more time on this.
So far, you got an 18.

Speaker 138 Bill, you want to roll?

Speaker 115 Just kick.

Speaker 34 I did not see that coming.

Speaker 90 Everyone saw it.

Speaker 172 So we're going to go with the original roll.

Speaker 169 The 18 was a success for sure. And the Griffin flies back and says, sure, Nick, thanks.

Speaker 27 Oh, no.

Speaker 169 He says, you were looking for the hatchery, right? Well, I found it. There's a pit that looks like there are maybe three dragon eggs or more.

Speaker 169 I saw at least three dragon eggs, but I also saw something else. So Wayne, we are up to you.

Speaker 172 You're still invisible.

Speaker 11 Can I go drag Billy's dead corpse off the ground, reanimate it, and then make it sit on the roper?

Speaker 169 Absolutely.

Speaker 172 You can definitely drag the corpse.

Speaker 4 I would desecrate his corpse.

Speaker 11 Our Griffin's got to be pretty hungry by now, right?

Speaker 27 Leave me dead.

Speaker 169 Your Griffin is certainly hungry, and he is a carnivore, and he says, mmm interesting.

Speaker 123 The body's a little old, but I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 75 I'm hungry.

Speaker 169 I wouldn't mind picking at that a little bit.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think I want to feed Billy's dead body to her griffin.

Speaker 172 You start to feed just because

Speaker 27 he's hungry, yeah.

Speaker 113 Absolutely.

Speaker 169 I'll also point out you're still invisible, so when you pick up Billy's body, it does kind of look like Billy's just walking around before you're an invisible puppet master.

Speaker 11 Can I use like my hands to make Billy have a really stupid face and trip him a few times as he's walking?

Speaker 169 You make him walk around and you see Billy's face contorting different ways. But then because he's in different pieces, the body parts start to fall over a little bit.

Speaker 169 You have a lot of dexterity, though, so you start catching.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'd like to juggle Billy's testicles.

Speaker 74 Juggling various tests.

Speaker 49 Throw one against the wall.

Speaker 41 Absolutely. There's a splat as something against the wall, for sure.

Speaker 11 Okay, great. So, yeah, now I'd like to feed his corpse to the Griffin.

Speaker 169 Absolutely. The Griffin is actually saying, hmm, you know, there's something tangy about it, like dark magic or something, but you know, it's not bad.
And the Griffin keeps eating this. Yeah.

Speaker 169 And the Griffin is also thanking us for having freed him. He does introduce himself after this delicious meal and says, you know, my name's Blake.
It's an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 169 And I'm so thank you for freeing me. I really, really appreciate it.
So he's now really feeling like a member of our team now that he got to eat

Speaker 38 our former teammate.

Speaker 34 It's a bit of a Blake the Griffin.

Speaker 11 Yeah, went down the wrong.

Speaker 9 Actually, I don't like Blake Griffin anymore. Yeah.
He kind of ditched us the other day.

Speaker 75 Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 169 This could be a different big team.

Speaker 11 No, Blake Griffin's fine. Just for the record, I'm mad at him.
All right, so now that

Speaker 9 you want to take him out?

Speaker 12 Interesting. Philly, you got any thoughts on that?

Speaker 46 Hey.

Speaker 41 Berserker Brown. Just kidding.

Speaker 51 Tim, thank you so much.

Speaker 34 We really appreciate your time, as always.

Speaker 122 Absolutely.

Speaker 31 Thank you, Tim. Good game.

Speaker 123 Absolutely, everybody.

Speaker 11 Love is blind. Now, this show, I have not yelled at my TV while watching a show as much as I have watching this, whatever it is.

Speaker 11 I can't decide. When I first started watching it, I was like, this show sucks.
I hate everyone involved. But now, I feel like I didn't want to stop watching it after the fourth episode.

Speaker 11 I was like, I kind of love how much I hate some of these characters.

Speaker 139 Okay, it was hard for me to physically watch.

Speaker 26 Let's do big picture real quick.

Speaker 87 So we found out there's actually 60 people that got invited.

Speaker 43 So it's 30 guys, 30 30 girls.

Speaker 9 We probably only saw like 10 or 12 of them.

Speaker 87 My question right off the bat, and I don't want this to sound mean at all, but because it's Love is Blind, did they intentionally not pick like super attractive people?

Speaker 84 Because it was markedly

Speaker 86 lower than your Bachelor, your Bachelorette, your Real World.

Speaker 79 That's the first season of a new show.

Speaker 34 Yeah, exactly. So the production circle, there are other people.

Speaker 27 Who cares if they're not that attractive?

Speaker 34 I don't see it.

Speaker 11 I'm going to throw a flag on on that one because my first note was they should have had at least two very unattractive people.

Speaker 60 I think they did. Very unattractive people.

Speaker 41 I think they did if you saw the 60.

Speaker 36 Oh, no,

Speaker 11 I didn't look at all the 60 books.

Speaker 54 No, no, I'm saying there was even some clips.

Speaker 42 Like, we were joking, the 38-year-old dude who's like, are you an African-American?

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 53 That guy was whack.

Speaker 11 That was perhaps the most awkward

Speaker 11 thing I've ever seen on a dating show.

Speaker 55 They threw some dogs in there, but I just noticed

Speaker 11 I wanted to see some notably doggish people on there

Speaker 11 that would shock the person if they got picked.

Speaker 88 They were, though, and they were.

Speaker 63 I'm not saying I'm a good-looking guy because I probably would be perfect for Love is Blind, or probably I'm probably less attractive than the people on there.

Speaker 6 But usually, when you watch a dating show, you're like, Holy shit, all these people aren't even real life.

Speaker 11 There are some very attractive people on the show, though.

Speaker 9 There are a few. There are a few, yeah, a few, but there also are a bunch that you're like, How'd that guy get there?

Speaker 11 Yeah, so you're African-American. Yeah, that was a great opening line.

Speaker 19 Like, what's his name?

Speaker 57 Kenny, who's a sweet dude.

Speaker 74 He's not real. Why isn't there?

Speaker 118 Or what about what's Cameron?

Speaker 84 Nice guy.

Speaker 94 You're not, like, a looker.

Speaker 11 Why isn't there a glory hole in the Love Pods? Right. Nicola Shea acting like everyone just knows who he is.
Yeah.

Speaker 57 He's like, obviously, I'm Nicolas Shea.

Speaker 15 I'm obviously Nicola Shea.

Speaker 11 And Nicola Shea, like, did he do anything in between episodes one and four?

Speaker 43 He did nothing basically the entire time.

Speaker 12 Even...

Speaker 52 I watched the whole thing, but yeah, he does nothing the whole time.

Speaker 74 He popped back to the bottom.

Speaker 11 I'm Nicola Shea.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I'm Nicola Shea, and then asks, reads a cue card.

Speaker 88 But they needed, obviously, a married couple here, and they were like, oh,

Speaker 118 let's look at like, was Ashley Simpson and her husband not available?

Speaker 62 I feel like that would have been good.

Speaker 9 So, all right,

Speaker 40 so the show is patently ridiculous.

Speaker 32 Who do you, where should we, like,

Speaker 11 I want to talk about Barnett.

Speaker 157 I hate him.

Speaker 27 Fuckboy.

Speaker 11 Oh, the very definition of fuckboy. And he's found his girl in Amber, who is the very definition of a hot mess.

Speaker 11 So you got a fuckboy and a hot mess, and those are two unstoppable forces that are just going to rub up against each other until they get into a fight.

Speaker 64 Right.

Speaker 11 Um, so that relationship's not going to work, but they're going to have a hell of a time while they're in it.

Speaker 11 Uh, but his jokes that he had to introduce himself to everybody, they're like pre-dad jokes. Yes, like he's going to be an excellent dad.

Speaker 74 Oh, I wrote them down, they were pretty bad.

Speaker 52 So, uh,

Speaker 61 when

Speaker 3 uh, one of I think Jessica said, What do you think about dogs in the bed?

Speaker 72 And he replied, I am one, I am one.

Speaker 42 Uh, she also said, Do you uh kids? What do you think about kids?

Speaker 17 And he says, Do I have any?

Speaker 12 Not that I know of.

Speaker 11 Well, he had a great quote when he was talking to the camera about what he's looking for on the show. He goes, I usually go for pretty girls, but this time I'm not looking for anything.

Speaker 11 Well, not that I'm looking for anything ugly, but

Speaker 11 he's like, I usually like to date pretty girls as my type. I still do, but I usually in the past have also done that.

Speaker 33 The kids joke, I think he said, so he said, not that I know of.

Speaker 156 And then Jessica said, no, I meant your position.

Speaker 31 And he said, what's my favorite position?

Speaker 54 So really, just really making everyone laugh.

Speaker 51 And then the last one I wrote down, they asked, when they went back to the room where it was very odd dynamic, they would all go back to the pad and be like, who did you connect with?

Speaker 42 And someone said, who were you all feeling?

Speaker 6 And he said, none of them, because it was through a wall.

Speaker 12 Good one, Barney. Very good.

Speaker 168 And then he and then he said, all these girls love my jokes.

Speaker 14 They love the jokes.

Speaker 54 That was the big from the first five episodes.

Speaker 1 Jessica

Speaker 12 and Barnett.

Speaker 54 Barnett being like, I think Barnett actually wrote it down.

Speaker 87 It says, he said, if this place had no other guys and no other girls, I'd propose to you.

Speaker 17 Which that is quite the love, you know, throwing that out there.

Speaker 42 And Jessica falls head over heels.

Speaker 32 And then the next day, she's like,

Speaker 45 hey, Barnett, did you mean all that stuff you said last night?

Speaker 17 And Barnett's like, nah, not really.

Speaker 54 And then she goes from that to, you know what? Who's that first guy?

Speaker 2 Mark?

Speaker 54 Jessica is 34 years old, cannot figure out how all of her relationships fail, and then came on this show and basically got directly into a failed relationship.

Speaker 42 Yep.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Got dumped and then got a rebound in Mark.

Speaker 66 And was like, I'll make it work.

Speaker 11 Yeah, she was like, I'm going to make this work. We have so much in common.
Like, we're both from Chicago.

Speaker 95 And Italian parents.

Speaker 58 And dogs.

Speaker 11 Literally all they had in common was that they grew up near Chicago. And dumped.

Speaker 11 And so she kept like trying when she would talk to herself and convince herself that things might work out with Mark, it was just going back to like,

Speaker 11 you know, we're built on something so solid, our foundation that, that he really likes the Cubs.

Speaker 54 No, you forgot one thing.

Speaker 143 The Christianity.

Speaker 43 When Mark explained his tattoo, it was like, yeah, I have a cross on my side

Speaker 45 and I left a space open for my future kids.

Speaker 6 And she was like, oh my God.

Speaker 33 That is so romantic.

Speaker 11 She strikes me as somebody who said multiple times, like, I'm not religious, but I'm very spiritual.

Speaker 42 No, I want to raise my kids through the church.

Speaker 75 Yeah. But I don't go.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Mark is turning incel in front of her eyes.

Speaker 11 Mark is

Speaker 88 simp.

Speaker 11 He is a big-time simp. He's having to negotiate for the relationship to keep going every single conversation.

Speaker 11 Their entire relationship is just a series of important talks that they have to have with each other. And every time it's Mark being like,

Speaker 43 I'm here for you and I'm still here and I'm going to make this work.

Speaker 11 Are you going to make this work? And she's like, yeah, I guess so. And then she goes to the bathroom and fingers herself to think about Barnett.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 54 And she, and then Mark's like, hey, I've been thinking, like, if we're really going to get married, maybe at some point you should actually not be completely appalled by the look of me.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Like, and she's like, I don't know.

Speaker 25 She said, maybe

Speaker 38 it's physical.

Speaker 34 You know what?

Speaker 127 We're working on things.

Speaker 39 Like, you're my best friend.

Speaker 57 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 11 No, it was, he basically proposed to her. He said, will you do me the honor of putting me the fuck in your friend zone for once?

Speaker 15 Yes, and she's even said like i think of him as like my best friend like i love he's like a brother yeah

Speaker 26 okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is four-time nba champion horace grant

Speaker 3 horace thank you for joining us it's everyone's obviously talking about the last dance we want to talk about your entire career but let's start there and what has it been like to watch to go back in time and see all this stuff see a young horse grant see all of uh the stories be retold on a national stage

Speaker 171 well it uh looking back on it uh reminiscing if you will um

Speaker 171 kind of making me wish i was 22 23 again you know um

Speaker 171 it was some some great years uh we had a fun time a great run there in chicago um

Speaker 171 but just

Speaker 171 the camaraderie that that we had as a team the confidence that we had as a team when we got out there on the floor

Speaker 57 yeah are there are there birds in the background our producers

Speaker 27 yeah

Speaker 11 let me close the window okay cool yeah we can hear them they sound like they're having a good time people would definitely the whole interview they'd be like what the hell what's going on one of the best parts of the documentary so far was your reaction to that piston series where they walked off the court didn't shake your hand i think you called them little bitches uh have you heard from anybody on the pistons about that

Speaker 171 well you know the ironic thing about that was um

Speaker 171 i um

Speaker 171 uh

Speaker 171 i never knew that what mj said about the pistons um i guess after game three

Speaker 171 You know, saying they didn't deserve

Speaker 171 to be champion. They messed the game up and all all of that.

Speaker 171 If I had known that, I don't think I would have called them bitches. I would have said cry, baby.
But to answer your question,

Speaker 171 I talked to Isaiah Thomas and we had a great, great conversation, man. I mean, and I see Isaiah all the time at All-Star Weekend.

Speaker 171 I mean, we have great conversations. So we had a great conversation.

Speaker 171 about

Speaker 171 everything and it's cool. I just put it that way.

Speaker 67 That

Speaker 43 moment where you guys beat the Pistons and knowing everything that had come before that, like I actually was kind of shocked they didn't go deeper into the migraine game, the Scotty migraine game, knowing that you were so close with Scotty.

Speaker 6 What was Michael's reaction to that?

Speaker 88 Because you can still see it on his face that he doesn't really believe that Scotty had a migraine.

Speaker 17 And that probably speaks to his psychopath, you know, competitiveness where he's like, nothing could ever stop me.

Speaker 6 When that happens, are you, you know, right after the game, are you like, yes, Scotty clearly had a migraine?

Speaker 13 Or do you side with MJ a little bit and be like, it's crazy he wasn't able to compete in game seven?

Speaker 171 Listen,

Speaker 171 when you have migraines, and I had a couple of migraines, when you have migraines, man, you can, you know, it's blurry, you can't see, the noise is crazy.

Speaker 171 There's no way Scotty could have functioned out there with those migraines. And he did have a migraine, man.

Speaker 141 And for

Speaker 171 us,

Speaker 91 I mean, for the people

Speaker 171 who second-guess that,

Speaker 171 I mean, I don't know if you can say, you know,

Speaker 171 they can kiss my ass. You know, that's crazy, man.

Speaker 171 And for, and I saw

Speaker 171 when they asked MJ about that, and he licked his lip and smirked a little bit.

Speaker 171 The dude, that was your sidekick. That was your second in command.

Speaker 171 He had a migraine.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 171 That's my thing.

Speaker 11 We play this game with every guest that we have. It's called Headline Grab, where we say something, and then you give us something, and we're going to make a headline and get some big news out of it.

Speaker 11 So I'll rephrase Big Cat's question. How much money in debt was Michael Jordan from gambling when David Stern asked him to take a year off?

Speaker 171 Hey, that's something.

Speaker 171 See, I was so oblivious to a whole bunch of things, guys. I'm telling you, because I was about playing basketball, partying, and going home.

Speaker 27 That was me.

Speaker 171 That was me. So I don't know if David Stern told me to take a year off.

Speaker 171 I just know MJ

Speaker 171 loved to gamble. That's what, that was, I mean,

Speaker 171 even on luggage, even on.

Speaker 171 you know

Speaker 171 uh what color you think that next car going to be coming down the street?

Speaker 171 So, uh, in terms of that, I don't know if that caused his retirement or not.

Speaker 113 Would you gamble with him?

Speaker 56 Would you gamble with him on the plane and everything? Play cards?

Speaker 163 Oh, hell yeah, we did.

Speaker 171 Uh, myself, Pip, Oak,

Speaker 171 uh, Pete, my, I mean, a whole bunch of us was gambling.

Speaker 55 How, how would you do? How would you say?

Speaker 87 Are you up or down to MJ in your life gambling?

Speaker 171 Well, I can only say one thing: that

Speaker 171 he ran out of cash one night.

Speaker 171 He didn't have enough cash on him.

Speaker 171 And of course, you know, when you don't have enough cash, you know, we loan each other money. And I think I loaned him about $2,000.

Speaker 171 And of course, I was talking trash every time I gave him about $400, $500.

Speaker 171 And then he got, he was so pissed that the next day he brought $2,000 worth of crispy $100 bills

Speaker 69 All right, so my last question, and this is a hilarious thing to look back on, but I just need confirmation that is 100% true.

Speaker 3 You once tried to skip practice because Scotty Pippin's cat died and you were mourning the cat.

Speaker 171 Hey, true story. But

Speaker 171 the thing behind that,

Speaker 171 I was still drunk from the night before.

Speaker 34 So

Speaker 95 you were really emotional about that cat.

Speaker 56 You really were in your feels about that cat.

Speaker 171 Listen, hey, when you have

Speaker 171 quite a few drinks and you still hung over, you still get emotional about certain things.

Speaker 61 It was a special cat.

Speaker 36 It was a great cat.

Speaker 11 And the great part about a cat excuse, they have nine times they can die and you can just nine practice it.

Speaker 12 It's the book, the book that I mentioned the book for everyone listening on Monday show, Blood on the Horns, but it was like Scotty called in and was like, Hey, my cat died, I'm not gonna be in practice today.

Speaker 42 And 15 minutes later, you called in, you're like, Hey, Scotty's cat died, I'm not gonna be in practice today.

Speaker 171 Hey, we came in together in 1987, so hey, that was my hey, still my man.

Speaker 5 That's friendship, that's deep friendship. To be like, I'll come and sit and be bros with you when your cat dies,

Speaker 171 absolutely. I mean,

Speaker 171 the cat, I mean, we had a bond,

Speaker 171 a great bond, man.

Speaker 127 what was the cat's name

Speaker 27 i don't damn

Speaker 14 i knew you wouldn't have that i knew you wouldn't have that

Speaker 57 yeah yeah okay ready hank all right here we go three girl or a boy i'm a boy

Speaker 141 keep that in oh no You want to say I told you she's spicy.

Speaker 90 I don't want to say that.

Speaker 33 This is Barbara Corcoran.

Speaker 15 You know her.

Speaker 156 She's the founder of the Corcoran Group, and she is an investor on Shark Tank.

Speaker 11 I've always thought that, so I had a background in sales. I sold pretty much anything under the map.
You name it. I slanged it.
I was the best salesperson I could be right after I sold something else.

Speaker 167 Why was that? Because you were bouncing off a high, and you thought, I'm a mighty man pounding a check. I can do anything.
Yeah. Yeah, you can do it.

Speaker 119 And did that work?

Speaker 167 Yeah, worked really well. Before two deals, maybe.

Speaker 11 No, no.

Speaker 11 I sold cats. I sold used dogs.
I sold Christmas trees. I sold portable air conditioners, software, used cars.

Speaker 76 And you know, I could put put you in a Honda original.

Speaker 57 I couldn't put any of those things from you.

Speaker 27 Yeah, not a single one.

Speaker 167 And let me ask you, if you were such a good salesman, let me challenge that.

Speaker 167 If you're such a good salesman, why don't you hop from product to product to product? Good salespeople don't do that.

Speaker 11 Oh, because there's a cap on my commissions when I was selling cats. And so then I moved up to dogs.

Speaker 95 It's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 11 And then Christmas, the higher the ticket item, the more money you get paid. Also, I found that the higher the ticket item, the higher the dollar sign on whatever it is you're selling.

Speaker 11 A lot of times it's easier to sell the expensive thing than it is to sell the cheap thing.

Speaker 102 And why is that?

Speaker 11 because the customers that try to buy a cheap thing they're focused on the price and they'll just walk away at any given second customers that want to buy an expensive thing they're focused on the other stuff that you can highlight for them you gotta you gotta tell me something i'm curious about you're telling me that you went and sold high-priced shit to people with that haircut uh no no no you look different back then that's a good point yeah because i wouldn't buy anything right now my only customer would be kid rock if he needed like a legacy software upgrade then i could hook him up oh yeah of course you could what is the uh what is the one product that you've invested in that you wish you could take back?

Speaker 167 Oh, there's a lot of them. Okay, the lipstick that makes you lose weight.

Speaker 36 That's true.

Speaker 60 That happens.

Speaker 167 Sounds like a great idea, but guess what? It doesn't make you lose weight. What? Even though it burns the crap out of your lips, so you don't want to eat a hot dog next time.

Speaker 61 That's terrible. That's a real thing? That's a real thing.

Speaker 21 That sounds like a high idea.

Speaker 167 Or the dentist, if you use this toothpaste, it's going to put you to sleep at night. I tried it.
I was having a hard time sleeping. I never went to sleep after I used this toothpaste.

Speaker 29 Oh, melaton.

Speaker 167 After I invested, like, no, not melatonin.

Speaker 73 Melatonina, no toothpaste, yeah.

Speaker 102 Oh, that, wait, maybe that's yeah.

Speaker 167 There was no melatonin in that toothpaste.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so what was it that knocked you out?

Speaker 111 Hank has this.

Speaker 41 Hank has Listerquil.

Speaker 94 Nyquil and Listerine combined.

Speaker 94 He literally has that.

Speaker 94 That's his idea.

Speaker 167 This is great. I'm going to try both these formulations.
Maybe my money's not lost yet.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Listerquil has been a long time idea. Holy shit, Hank.

Speaker 87 That was just proven that you're right.

Speaker 34 Wait, you invested in the family?

Speaker 167 I don't know what to take seriously.

Speaker 87 No, he Listerquil is a long-time idea of Hank.

Speaker 42 It sounds like you invested in Listerquil, but it wasn't.

Speaker 27 It was a wrong formulation.

Speaker 167 Yeah. It didn't put you to sleep, and it tasted like crap.

Speaker 139 The only sad part is that it was after her saying her least favorite investment.

Speaker 59 Well, that's good.

Speaker 76 You might make it my favorite investment. It wasn't successful.

Speaker 11 Your formula wasn't good. Your formula works.
She likes the idea.

Speaker 68 Barbara loves it. She's in love with the idea.

Speaker 110 It's the people behind it.

Speaker 167 Who would think I'd come here today and make money?

Speaker 25 Yeah. I never saw that come.

Speaker 72 Can Blake Griffin do it?

Speaker 51 I don't.

Speaker 11 I think Kepka's got it. 5.5 is a tough number.
The hardest thing to do in sports is to repeat as champion.

Speaker 6 It's going to be very hard.

Speaker 32 Okay, here we go. Blake Griffin.

Speaker 57 Go.

Speaker 38 Oh, 3.3.

Speaker 27 Holy shit.

Speaker 43 You did it again. Blake.
You did it again.

Speaker 11 Congratulations. Blake to Blake champion.

Speaker 9 You did it again. Blake Griffin.

Speaker 54 You're a transcendent talent.

Speaker 68 It was a tough competition, though. Do you want to know the finals?

Speaker 30 I need to know the times.

Speaker 11 So this year, Bortles had 5.75,

Speaker 11 Kepka had 5.5, and you beat them both by 1.2 seconds. Wow.

Speaker 27 Wow. Yes.

Speaker 68 We actually were talking beforehand, and we said

Speaker 1 the storylines that were going into this Blake of the Year was, will we look back and say that

Speaker 42 this was the GOAT

Speaker 2 status for Blake Griffin?

Speaker 54 Will we look back, PFT was saying, and say, is Blake Griffin bad for Blakes?

Speaker 43 Is it not fair anymore, do you think?

Speaker 175 You know what? I'm not even ready to answer those questions right now because I put in the time. I'm also working on a Last Dance Blake of the Year documentary as we speak.

Speaker 175 And, you know, the footage will show that I put the time in, and the footage will show that I care about this. And,

Speaker 131 you know,

Speaker 175 if you can't accept that, then it's fine. You're not a real Blake of the Year fan.

Speaker 11 I think all the talk that we've had, we've had Bortles and Kepka on recently discussed the Blake of the Year with him. I guess you could say Blake Griffin took it personally.

Speaker 175 I took that personal. Every time you guys post a highlight of

Speaker 175 Brooks on the golf course, I posted his mustache, compared it to Big Cats.

Speaker 175 I take that personal. I see it all.
I don't comment all the time, but I see it all, and I took it personal.

Speaker 40 It's impressive.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're clearly very emotional.

Speaker 72 I can hear it in your voice.

Speaker 54 Congratulations.

Speaker 89 The title is yours for another year.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 83 I mean, I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 42 We're truly in the presence of greatness.

Speaker 175 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 175 And, you know, if I can real quick, just want to address the fans.

Speaker 175 Unbelievable support over this past year.

Speaker 29 But

Speaker 175 we

Speaker 175 brought another Blake of the Year home. So you see me on the streets, yell.

Speaker 28 Let's celebrate together because

Speaker 175 this one's for everybody.

Speaker 34 Wow, he's sharing this one with the fans.

Speaker 11 What a guy.

Speaker 11 Blake, one last question. Are you going to take some time to celebrate this, or are you thinking already, hey, let's move on? It's next year.
You're only as good as you're going to be doing.

Speaker 11 You know what?

Speaker 175 The way I see it, I have the rest of the day to celebrate, but then it's back to training.

Speaker 46 Love it.

Speaker 54 Love it. Heart of a champion.

Speaker 68 All right, Blake.

Speaker 52 We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 54 Oh, also, don't say anything because we're going to run this July 6th.

Speaker 10 So don't say anything. Oh, wow.

Speaker 175 I have to wait that long.

Speaker 28 Yes.

Speaker 110 Yes.

Speaker 67 So when we do, when it does happen, just pretend it was just that day.

Speaker 57 Okay. All right.

Speaker 40 Okay. All right.
Thank you, Blake.

Speaker 68 Congrats again. What a job.

Speaker 57 All right.

Speaker 102 All right. See ya.

Speaker 2 Okay. We're rounding up.

Speaker 54 We got a couple left.

Speaker 6 This is, we're coming out of the COVID part of the year.

Speaker 16 We have some good interviews with, great interviews with Matt Ryan and Kevin Love.

Speaker 17 Kevin Love was the first interview we did in person a long ass time.

Speaker 71 Awesome to do.

Speaker 17 Matt Ryan, really cool guy.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 42 I feel bad that I keep saying he's so sackable.

Speaker 11 No, he is. That's just a fact.
I think he would even

Speaker 11 defenders are like, I like this guy so much. I want to just give him a big hug.

Speaker 11 But yeah, we had some good interviews once we got back into the office. It was just good to see people face to face again.
Yes.

Speaker 11 I would love to never have to look into a Zoom kaleidoscope of hell anymore for the rest of my life.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 52 So let's do that. Let's go to it.

Speaker 12 Let's do our Matt Ryan and Kink.

Speaker 98 Hey, what's going on there, pal?

Speaker 125 We saw you at the hockey game on.

Speaker 33 Do I know you guys?

Speaker 129 I'm Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 33 I got a drink named after me.

Speaker 158 Not a big deal. Pink Whitney?

Speaker 71 That's what I thought. See you, fellas.

Speaker 2 I invented the thing, you pigeon.

Speaker 18 Pink Whitney for legendary moments.

Speaker 11 And now,

Speaker 9 here is Matt Ryan and Kevin Love.

Speaker 45 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 13 It is NFL MVP starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, Matt Ryan.

Speaker 45 Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 6 I wanted, though, to start the interview being a gracious host and ask you, do you want to do 28-3 now or later?

Speaker 24 Let's just rip the band-aid and go.

Speaker 74 All right, let's do it. All right.

Speaker 62 We'll get out to a big start.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 43 First question, how much did that suck?

Speaker 24 I mean, as much as anything can suck, right? Like, that's about as bad as it gets. Still stings a little bit, but,

Speaker 24 you know, hopefully I get back there at some point and can change the narrative.

Speaker 26 I remember Ed Werder after the game asked you, how crushing was this loss right after the game.

Speaker 98 And that was maybe the most savage question in the moment.

Speaker 33 So credit to you for dealing with that in the moment.

Speaker 12 I would have freaked out and grabbed my Xbox controller and thrown it at everyone in the press and been like, I'm out of here.

Speaker 63 So good job on that.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I gave my helmet a pretty good launch when I got into

Speaker 24 the locker room, saw the kind of speakers and stuff fly out. So I basically did the same thing you would do with the Xbox controller with my helmet.

Speaker 11 I heard a nasty rumor that you got a contact high from Chris Long when he hit you in the fourth quarter, and that's what kind of sent you downhill. Can you confirm that?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I don't think that's true, but,

Speaker 24 you know, it was that fourth quarter, it was kind of a weird deal, right?

Speaker 62 Because

Speaker 24 the end, I mean, we made some great plays to get back into field goal range late in the game. Then we kind of, you know, got bumped back out, but there was no contact high from Chris.

Speaker 24 I actually just talked to him earlier today. All good.
He's still talking shit about that year and then the following year when he beat us with the Eagles, which both those were tough losses.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that was the 2017 Falcons who I was saying they hadn't played their best game yet.

Speaker 98 You guys lost, and I still was like, don't worry, they're going to be in the playoffs next week, and they still haven't played their best game because I was a big believer in that team.

Speaker 43 Have you had a chance, I assume, to talk to Kyle Shanahan?

Speaker 42 I know that you guys have publicly like there's back and forth, you know,

Speaker 19 not blame, but Kyle Shanahan gets some of the blame for it.

Speaker 6 But have you guys buried the hatchet in that respect?

Speaker 62 Yeah, we're cool.

Speaker 24 I mean, we, we talked, God, we talked a lot about it, you know, the week and a half after, after that game.

Speaker 24 And then, you know, obviously I was happy for him with the San Francisco hire and, you know, kept in touch with him.

Speaker 24 And then obviously reached back out to him after, you know, another tough one for them after the Super Bowl this year. So I've been, you know, I've kept in touch with him.

Speaker 24 And he's a, I mean, he's a great coach, man. He's a good dude, really good football coach.
And he's going to get one.

Speaker 24 I hope not during, you know, the rest of my career, but, you know, at some point after that, he's going to get one.

Speaker 11 Do you call in to question his judgment knowing that he has Chris Sims' initials tattooed on his calf?

Speaker 24 We used to bust his balls all the time about that. Matt Sims, so Chris's brother, Matt, was the third string quarterback with us.

Speaker 24 for, I guess, two seasons while Kyle was there. And Matt, he was relentless, man.

Speaker 24 He would just, he would break his balls all the time about that. And it is, you know, he tells a story about why they did it, and it still doesn't make sense.
I mean, it just, it was a bad decision.

Speaker 11 The wood, they call themselves the wood, right? It was like four bros at University of Texas. They're like, hey, let's all get each other's names put on our legs.

Speaker 24 Yeah, just a bad decision at that time. And you couldn't have thought it was going to play out well.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 11 Speaking of Matt Sims, what is it about the name Matt that makes really good quarterbacks?

Speaker 66 Good question.

Speaker 28 Thanks.

Speaker 24 I don't know. That's

Speaker 24 another weird part of that year. So in that quarterback room, our quarterback coach was Matt LaFleur, current head coach of the Green Bay Packers.
Our backup quarterback was Matt Schaub.

Speaker 24 And our third string quarterback was Matt Sims. So all four of us in that room at the time were Matt.

Speaker 24 And the running joke was that, you know, if anybody came in and asked for Matt and they knew who we were talking to, it was me. So everybody else just kept their mouth shut.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 24 You know, went about their business.

Speaker 102 I'd like to talk to Matt Schaub.

Speaker 4 Have you ever asked Matt Schaub

Speaker 80 the streak, the pick six streak that he had going?

Speaker 13 That's an all-time.

Speaker 6 I mean, what happened there?

Speaker 12 Did you have you ever been like, hey, dude, what was going on that?

Speaker 24 Yeah, he doesn't really want to go there.

Speaker 119 When I bring it up,

Speaker 24 he doesn't really want to go there all that often about it. But I think we're both like top 15 all-time of pick sixes thrown.
So that's pretty good for one quarterback room.

Speaker 129 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Did he ever suggest, hey, maybe we should work on our tackling?

Speaker 24 Never came up.

Speaker 24 Either of us never really brought it up.

Speaker 55 I want to do a quick

Speaker 31 throwback, wondering what was going through your head during this decision making, and it wasn't your decision, but

Speaker 45 2015, you're out playing the San Francisco 49ers.

Speaker 31 You guys are down four,

Speaker 43 fourth and goal on the one, under three minutes to go.

Speaker 33 You kick a field goal.

Speaker 50 What were you thinking?

Speaker 60 I don't know.

Speaker 21 Do you remember that play?

Speaker 157 Because I do.

Speaker 24 We were out there 2015. Out.
We had just opened the new stadium.

Speaker 36 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 24 We kicked it and then we didn't get the ball back, I don't think.

Speaker 57 Correct, correct. You lost by one.

Speaker 119 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 Probably not the right choice.

Speaker 6 No, I actually meant, we saw Dan Quinn at the combine a couple years ago, and I asked him about that because I kind of have just, I don't know, it's something I'm just hung up on.

Speaker 6 I think I had money on the game, and I just was really mad at him.

Speaker 39 Definitely had money on the game.

Speaker 60 And yeah, he was like, a huge problem.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he was like, Yeah, that was a mistake.

Speaker 24 It's so out of character for Dan, though, too. I think he's changed.
It's probably one of the learning experiences for him as a head coach, too, because he honestly is one of the most aggressive,

Speaker 24 you know, aggressive guys in the league when it comes to going forward on fourth down and being aggressive and

Speaker 24 having the balls to make those decisions and being able to live with it, which is one of the things you love about him. But it was his first year as a head coach.

Speaker 24 So, I mean, he's come along, he's gotten better.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, that was a bad one.

Speaker 150 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 11 2016, in the finals, game seven, the end of the game, you're supposed to lock down Steph Curry. And the Cavaliers by three.

Speaker 173 And I like the no-time out call by Steve Curry.

Speaker 173 Love picks up Curry. Curry steps back, fakes the three, drives again, shut off nicely.

Speaker 11 Were you afraid in that moment or were you like,

Speaker 11 if I were you, and this is probably why I'm not a basketball player a professional basketball player besides being only five ten and a half but if you were if that were me i would be what's your contract height shitty i'm five i'm actually five eight but if i say five and a half nobody yeah

Speaker 11 i'm six feet one yeah well with these shoes by the way these are six shoes because they give me three inches and they're not actually lifts so technically i guess i am six feet right now but if i were you and i were in that position i would just be shitting myself i'd be like i hope i don't fuck this up is that what you were thinking or were you like i got this yeah i mean naturally you're going against the the I mean, first time ever unanimous MVP, right?

Speaker 107 This team 73-9. But again, I forgot to mention preparation when I came to

Speaker 107 Tylu and our team in general. Like, we had gone over that particular play,

Speaker 107 I mean, hundreds of times, gone through it in film hundreds of times, had seen it throughout the game, especially in their fourth quarter package, a number of times, because they knew that we were switching most of the time, one through five, and

Speaker 107 that I was on Draymond. So I was guarding the four.

Speaker 107 You know, he was going to set the flare for Clay, and we weren't going to switch that, come over the top. And then when he set the screen for Steph, and I think JR might have ended up on

Speaker 107 Draymond after that.

Speaker 173 Found the green, seven to shoot.

Speaker 176 Curry fakes the three, steps back, crossover, puts up a three.

Speaker 176 Rebound James with 30 seconds remaining.

Speaker 107 I always say it was actually, you know, I played great defense, but as far as a defensive scheme and play it was actually a bad defensive possession because i wasn't supposed to let i was supposed to deny the ball back to steph and i let him get the ball back

Speaker 107 so so draymond had caught it kind of in the corner was like okay i need i'm gonna need steph to to make this play because he's done it time and time again and you know he throws it back to him i'm actually supposed to deny that you know luckily i kept my feet down uh you know knew everything was at stake but i think part of the reason i was able to do that in that moment was because yes first of all all, I was locked in.

Speaker 107 We went through it so many times. We prepared so many times, and that was a play that really stuck out to us in late game situation.

Speaker 107 But I think more than anything, it was my mindset changed in the series. You know, I come off a concussion.
I hadn't played the next game in game three. We ended up winning.

Speaker 107 So I'm like, I'm just going to focus on defense and rebounding.

Speaker 107 That's all I'm going to focus on here. So when that time came, I was...
I was more ready than I probably otherwise would have been had I not decided to focus on that.

Speaker 6 If he drives on you though, I'll foul the shit out.

Speaker 115 Oh, you would have found that shit.

Speaker 34 No, it's funny because

Speaker 91 he did.

Speaker 87 It was good defense, but he also.

Speaker 107 I was guarding the three.

Speaker 87 You got to be like, thank God

Speaker 13 he took a shot there and not driving it.

Speaker 107 And I've seen him make that shot.

Speaker 66 I mean, we all have to. Yeah, right.

Speaker 107 Time and time again against even bigger players. Right.
He comes back the next year in the finals.

Speaker 107 I think it might have been game one, maybe I think it might have been game two where they blew us out because game one was crazy, really suspect, foul call, the whole thing.

Speaker 107 Charge block. They went, you know, called it a charge, went back, so it was a blocking foul.
That was suspect. So it just had never happened before.
It's unprecedented

Speaker 107 in a game, especially of that magnitude, an NBA Finals game. Yeah.
Braun has, you know, one of the best finals performances of all time.

Speaker 107 You know, we go out there, I have a big game, guys are playing great, guys are ready for the moment, and then we lose. It's like that just took the wind out of our sails.

Speaker 55 So, wait, so I'm sorry. So, yeah, so you're like, just

Speaker 20 so that play, but in general, as a bigger guy, when you get on an an island with a guy with sick handles, a point guard, are you just like in the back of your head like, this fucking sucks?

Speaker 62 Oh, yeah. I mean, it's tough.

Speaker 107 In today's NBA, it's tough because, and, you know, there's no hand checking anymore. And it's been like that for a while, but it's such a pace and space league now.
I mean, take a look at the Rockets.

Speaker 107 They're the best example of it.

Speaker 107 You know, there's a number of teams that, you know,

Speaker 107 I did a story with Jackie McMullen,

Speaker 107 who, you know, was talking about the new era of the big men. And

Speaker 107 she said in the last five years, because we have advanced stats now and analytics for every single team, we base kind of sometimes what we do on that, right? And numbers tell a story.

Speaker 107 So she was saying that 50% of, I mean,

Speaker 107 excuse me, post-touches are 50%

Speaker 107 down in the last five years. I believe it.
So you don't see a traditional five-man anymore. You even have guys like, I mean, you know, we were talking about Milwaukee earlier.

Speaker 107 You have Brooke Lopez out there shooting threes. You have Marcus Saul out there shooting threes.
Even Valchunis out there shooting threes. Joel M.
Biade out there shooting threes.

Speaker 75 Not well, but yeah, he's out there shooting threes. You know what I mean?

Speaker 107 If you don't have that in your game, it's almost like, you know, can I put him in in certain situations? Because you have to guard. You have to switch.
You have to guard ones and twos.

Speaker 107 You have to guard a staff. You have to guard a Kyrie.
You have to guard a Russell Westbrook, a James Harden. So switching onto them in the open floor and asking for help is already a disadvantage.

Speaker 107 Daniel Lillard, same way. Like, it's hard to do.

Speaker 48 Stephen Adams can't really play in the series against the Rockets. Like, that's kind of what it is.

Speaker 56 He's playing, but you can't play him long minutes because it doesn't really fit with what you're doing.

Speaker 107 You help off of P.J. Tucker.
He's getting in the corner and he's shooting three. He shot the most, and I think he had maybe even the highest percentage of anybody in the league from

Speaker 107 that corner there. And he's 6'5 ⁇ .
Steve Adams, 7-foot, and they're not able to take advantage of that. They go double.
Somebody else has to beat you. So, again, to answer your question.

Speaker 107 Yeah, I think if I would have funneled him into the lane, we probably would have had to help, and maybe they would have kicked it out to Clay or kicked it out to another player, but we would have made somebody somebody else beat us.

Speaker 107 But in that moment, you know, he even said it too. It's funny, he came out in Archives.
I should have driven past Kevin Love. I could have done it easily.
Yeah, that's fair, but you didn't.

Speaker 11 If I were you, I would watch the replay of that just like still nervous and think to myself, shit, I hope he doesn't drive.

Speaker 107 By the way, I still watch that. I've never watched the game in its entirety.
I've never watched the game. By the way,

Speaker 107 the first half of the game isn't even worth watching. Yeah.
Because then JR comes out, and I think they're up eight points. He has two threes and scores a layup.
But

Speaker 107 I don't even watch the first half. I can remember walking back to the locker room with James Jones, who now works in the front office for the Phoenix Suns, really close friend of mine.

Speaker 107 And he, I looked at him, I said, does this even feel like a game seven? And you know, he had been a part of all the finals runs with

Speaker 75 Braun.

Speaker 107 And he's like, no.

Speaker 103 Really?

Speaker 59 Yeah. And then at the locker room at halftime, they're like,

Speaker 107 where's the energy? Where's the, you know, we need accountability. So we came out in the second half and

Speaker 107 we were locked in and ready to go. So the second half is amazing.
Like, yeah, it's incredible. And I remember the last four minutes.

Speaker 107 I'm sitting here like this at a timeout, but I remember the last four minutes, really, nobody scored.

Speaker 57 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 107 Kyrie hit that big shot and Braun had the block, the stop, whatever you.

Speaker 107 And Braun went to the free throw line, hit the one free throw, put us up four.

Speaker 107 But I can remember sitting down. So it always went Braun at the front, Kyrie, or excuse me, JR,

Speaker 107 myself, I was in the middle.

Speaker 107 Tristan, and then Kyrie was always at the end.

Speaker 6 So, LeBron and Kyrie on opposite sides of each other.

Speaker 129 Yes. Got it.

Speaker 11 As far away from each other as possible.

Speaker 62 You would say. I think both of them wanted to feel like they could leave a huddle.

Speaker 14 No, no, it's yeah, no, you know what I mean?

Speaker 93 I get you. Go ahead.

Speaker 19 So you're sitting there?

Speaker 107 Yeah, so I'm sitting there. Nobody's saying a word, but I can remember looking, like, everybody's going crazy.
I have Phil Knight sitting right there.

Speaker 107 Lynn Merritt, who's the head of Nike Global Basketball. I see, you know,

Speaker 107 Guy Fieri. Guy Fury's obviously there.
By the way, if you guys had had Guy Fury on the show, we would love to.

Speaker 62 Oh, that flared before the grace of God going on.

Speaker 107 Diners drive-ins and drives.

Speaker 66 I mean, like, that's a big one.

Speaker 107 That could be like a conversational pivot, but I'm not.

Speaker 107 But I just remember, you know, I think everybody, like, we even had our fans there, the, you know, hundred people that were up there, friends and family.

Speaker 107 And, you know, we're in this chaotic Coliseum type experience, like, they just let the lions out, right? And

Speaker 107 I just remember looking at everybody like,

Speaker 163 oh, wow, we're like, we're going to win this.

Speaker 162 We're locked in.

Speaker 136 And

Speaker 107 like, I'll never, unless you're in that moment and the guys are all locked in and around, because typically guys are going doing their own thing and

Speaker 107 talking, whatever. Guys are, you know, loose with the huddle most of the time.
We just, we excelled a lot of the time because of how much talent we had, but we were so locked in.

Speaker 107 And when Tylu came in and sat down, he just kind of looked at us, drew up the play.

Speaker 107 And I actually believe that might have been when, you know, Kyrie, we came down in the possession and he hit the big shot. But that type of thing, you just can't draw up.

Speaker 107 But I just remember how locked in we were, and that still today, like, resonates with me in such a big way.

Speaker 13 In those finals, because, you know, hearing basketball players talk, and Kevin Durant always talks about like how much he appreciates just like great basketball.

Speaker 13 Did you have moments when you were in any of those finals, you're like, this is just insanely good basketball?

Speaker 18 Like the level that both these teams are playing at and the, you know, the margin for error is so razor thin.

Speaker 19 Like this is, did you have a chance to like appreciate it?

Speaker 107 Yeah, actually getting back to walking into the locker room at halftime and it's a long walk at Oracle RIP Oracle I mean it's not gone but it's they moved into the city but to us it's gone which is which is too bad because what a great arena to play obviously hate the fans but yeah also love the fans at the same time loud place but we're walking back it's a long walk and

Speaker 107 you know I think the margin for error

Speaker 107 question is is great because we were

Speaker 107 this is a team that we're playing against in the warriors that if you if they get it to double digits you you get in your brain you're like oh man like you very seldom do you come back from double double digits to this team they have so much firepower uh clay and steph get going uh you know uh you know dre is is you know doing his thing he's in the running from defensive player of the year every single year And they just have the thing rolling.

Speaker 107 If they get Oracle going, it's so loud. It's a tough place to play.
Really, really tough. Maybe the hardest at that time because they were 73 and 9.
It's so good.

Speaker 107 But we knew that if we didn't make up any of our ground from that eight-point deficit, that if it got to double digits, we could be in trouble, especially in the second half.

Speaker 107 Guys are going to get a little, you know, assholes are going to get tight. Guys are going to get a little bit more tense.

Speaker 107 You know, guys are going to start doing things outside of maybe even their character or their game.

Speaker 107 And, you know, for that to happen to us would have been, you know, pretty tough because you've seen it. time and time again, even in the playoffs and finals games as well.

Speaker 107 We saw it the next year when we played them. Like, if you give them enough of

Speaker 107 a discrepancy, they're going to take advantage of them.

Speaker 48 Yeah, they scored nine points in like 30 seconds.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's almost like you have to be up by 10 at halftime because in that third quarter, they can come out and get the league.

Speaker 62 And they're the best third quarter team in the league.

Speaker 9 They'll go in like a 16-0 run like that.

Speaker 51 And before they get that, and they're capable of that quick.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 107 They get the crowd going, stuff's going. You know, it's just

Speaker 107 a tough, tough place to play. And being on the road like that, we had to be locked in.
So that the margin for air was incredibly, incredibly low.

Speaker 2 Okay, wrapping up the best of

Speaker 36 we got some dudes to finish it up.

Speaker 6 We got Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 13 We got Ryan Rosillo.

Speaker 36 Some dudes.

Speaker 13 Rosillo's going to be so happy.

Speaker 71 They got lumped in with Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 11 He's definitely going to reply to the tweet and tag McConaughey in it, being like, hey,

Speaker 11 great end of the year episode. And just in secret hopes that McConaughey will write him back.

Speaker 6 A couple dudes take off their shirts.

Speaker 12 Should we do a number before we do that? Before we get to him?

Speaker 74 So Bubba actually won.

Speaker 6 I haven't put, I got to put some balls back in there, but let's just not do it for this time.

Speaker 11 I'm going to go 21.

Speaker 46 New year. I'll go 100 again.

Speaker 9 21. 21, Bubba.

Speaker 1 95.

Speaker 71 95. Trying to cuck me.

Speaker 9 21.

Speaker 11 If this is 8, I'm gonna fucking. I'm gonna shit twice and die.

Speaker 141 Oh!

Speaker 169 Shit twice and die.

Speaker 147 If it's eight?

Speaker 11 Yeah, because that's what I normally pick.

Speaker 67 Oh, yeah. See, I

Speaker 6 shit twice and die. Eight.

Speaker 51 I got a hundred.

Speaker 66 Oh,

Speaker 62 50.

Speaker 57 Ah, Damn.

Speaker 73 Well, look at that.

Speaker 45 I guess we'll find out. I hope Jake's taking these numbers down.

Speaker 57 We'll have the full crew back from vacation.

Speaker 85 This is the not fucking around crew, Milliam and PFT.

Speaker 62 We don't take days off.

Speaker 71 The rest of us.

Speaker 12 The rest of them.

Speaker 85 Hank and Billy and Jake, who just kind of freeload off our backs.

Speaker 39 Hanks will be back.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Hank's in mourning because of the end of his dynasty. I can understand him wanting to take a day off.

Speaker 36 And Billy

Speaker 16 is out making himself.

Speaker 19 This is a direct quote I saw through some of my sources.

Speaker 44 Billy is going to make himself a weapon before those that can say goodbye.

Speaker 11 Turning himself into a weapon.

Speaker 53 Yeah, turning himself into a weapon.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he's also probably making himself a weapon to have on his person.

Speaker 11 But yeah, 2021,

Speaker 11 let's just do a redo, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Let's call that one a wash, move forward. Maybe we can get Hank to do Soggy Sorrows to get back for the Patriots season.

Speaker 40 Hard bodies in 2021.

Speaker 44 Get excited.

Speaker 13 We'll see everyone after week 17.

Speaker 19 Enjoy.

Speaker 45 Matthew McConaughey and Ryan Rosilla.

Speaker 11 Love you guys.

Speaker 123 I'm a terrific post-player. Terrific.

Speaker 123 I'll put that up against anybody. But then yesterday I was telling Big Cat some guys were like hitting on me

Speaker 123 at Hoops trying to ask me to play with them.

Speaker 57 It was weird.

Speaker 11 Because you were backing them down too hard.

Speaker 111 You were sending the wrong signals.

Speaker 60 No, no.

Speaker 123 They saw me shooting around a little bit.

Speaker 123 And, you know, I was trying to be COVID safe, so I didn't really want to play pickup with anybody anyway, but I just wanted to get some shots up, get a little sweat in.

Speaker 123 And I think they were high as fuck because they reeked. But I think one guy was playing in sandals, but he was really nice.

Speaker 123 But then they were asking me how much I weighed, and they had a bet on it, which I thought was kind of cool and complimentary. You know, and so I was like, I don't know, I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 123 So I told them I wait, and they got excited. And then it just immediately went into, hey, do you guys want to join? Do you want to join my buddies and I on a text thread? And we can pick.

Speaker 123 And I was like, no, I actually don't want to give you my cell phone number. But I'll just just be around.

Speaker 6 You basically just met the West Coast Billy Football because that's something Billy Football would absolutely say: like, yo, dude, how much do you weigh?

Speaker 19 Like, I'm looking at you right now.

Speaker 84 You're looking pretty solid. I don't know.

Speaker 123 What's up with Billy Football's arms?

Speaker 27 I thought he used to have big arms.

Speaker 39 That's a good question, Ryan.

Speaker 90 So he joined.

Speaker 67 He doesn't have a headphone.

Speaker 11 He joined the Jenga team, and then he cut his sleeves off, and then he chose the only guy in the office that has bigger arms than his.

Speaker 11 So now he looks like he's got little earthworms hanging from his shoulders.

Speaker 116 Billy hasn't done curls in days.

Speaker 75 It's bad.

Speaker 40 He asked, What's up with your arms, Billy?

Speaker 147 Tell him, Russilla.

Speaker 11 I'll outbench you 100%.

Speaker 19 How much are you benching now? It is.

Speaker 123 You know, I don't once you get out of high school, you don't max a ton.

Speaker 74 I know.

Speaker 151 I'm out of college. I still don't max tonight, but I know I can bench more than you.

Speaker 21 You probably can, man.

Speaker 60 I don't know what

Speaker 60 do you max?

Speaker 151 Well, right now, I'm probably hovering around like 285.

Speaker 70 Max?

Speaker 27 Oh,

Speaker 160 it's not not a lot to brag about.

Speaker 34 That was fucking hard.

Speaker 74 How much are you mentioning?

Speaker 21 How much are you benching?

Speaker 55 I put up 315 three times today fucking around.

Speaker 27 It's still hot.

Speaker 115 Come back to me in a couple years.

Speaker 86 You're probably a short-arm guy.

Speaker 74 That's man strength.

Speaker 60 I'm not a short-arm guy.

Speaker 39 I don't know if you caught this.

Speaker 60 Now, I don't know you must have missed the part, but my post thing.

Speaker 123 Like 6'6. It's stupid.

Speaker 27 Oh, it's fucking stupid.

Speaker 11 The funny thing is, I'm sure that Ryan actually knows exactly what his wingspan is. Yes.

Speaker 60 No, he's got 6-0.

Speaker 11 He's got a spider chart on his wall.

Speaker 40 That's in the draft notes.

Speaker 9 Brian Rosillo, 6'6 wingspan.

Speaker 45 It's stupid.

Speaker 102 Silly strong.

Speaker 170 I can't believe you're at 285.

Speaker 27 Yeah, I squatted.

Speaker 34 I still got a lot of money. That's embarrassing.

Speaker 34 We're still doing squat numbers now?

Speaker 74 Yeah, my squat was my best lift.

Speaker 34 Go ahead. Say your squat numbers.
I bet you.

Speaker 86 I squatted over 440.

Speaker 27 That's great, man. Something.

Speaker 123 Talk to me when you're 45.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 95 Dude, anyway. 285?

Speaker 60 I didn't know what type of

Speaker 9 bench guy he was.

Speaker 84 No, but 285, like, don't go running.

Speaker 170 No, that's what it is now.

Speaker 27 Billy, Billy, Billy, hold on.

Speaker 123 You were so confident. I assumed you were going to say, like, 365 or something like that.

Speaker 51 I don't have at least three plates on, and you can't come after me.

Speaker 74 Billy, when you go out in public, you represent us.

Speaker 33 And you're telling people that you benched 285?

Speaker 83 That's embarrassing, dude.

Speaker 128 Well, now, I mean, I'm not like, I dropped, like, you guys made fun of me for being fat, so I don't, like, my body weight's lower.

Speaker 27 So you're in your body.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 57 when I was like 240, like, I was benching way more, but then everyone's like, oh, belly football. So, oh, fuck, I got to drop weight now.

Speaker 11 I'll be honest with you. I don't care how fat you you are.
If you can throw up three plates, then I'm fine with that.

Speaker 74 I've been in the past.

Speaker 39 I'm disappointed with that.

Speaker 57 Also,

Speaker 11 and Ryan just being like, I was fucking around this morning and threw up 315. Like, he wasn't even benching seriously.

Speaker 86 Dude, dude, he was warming up.

Speaker 11 He was just having a laugh.

Speaker 15 Anyway, love to live with you.

Speaker 64 Billy, by the way, don't let them.

Speaker 123 It's clearly they're getting in your head. Don't worry about the big thing at all, man.

Speaker 57 Big is in.

Speaker 123 Yeah, well, yeah, but this is a different work dynamic. I think we can all agree on that.

Speaker 123 And by the way, when Big Cat says you represent us, Van Pelt said that to me one night and scolded the shit out of me. And it sucked to hear, but it also wasn't a lie.
Yeah.

Speaker 123 And then later on, I was like, hey, but later on, you become your own person. You go, I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 170 Well, what did you do to have him say that?

Speaker 9 He benched 275.

Speaker 15 Fuck.

Speaker 49 285. No, I told somebody to fuck off.

Speaker 74 Well, I haven't done it in a long time.

Speaker 33 I could maybe hit 300. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 12 The excuses are coming up.

Speaker 11 Wait, Ryan, what'd you say?

Speaker 86 You told somebody to fuck off?

Speaker 123 I told somebody to fuck off one night, and he didn't really love it. So, whatever.
It was a long story. But, you know, he was fair.
It was fair. It was stern, but it was fair.

Speaker 123 But yeah, Billy, seriously, man,

Speaker 123 you do have long arms. Your arms from this angle look better.

Speaker 101 I'm trying to build you up a little bit, but

Speaker 123 if you can't put up 315 right now, you shouldn't start stepping to other guys about max banks.

Speaker 151 I know, I know.

Speaker 157 Billy's a...

Speaker 34 You already knew this.

Speaker 60 You already knew this.

Speaker 27 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 34 You're suspicious.

Speaker 5 Billy's an.

Speaker 19 I love you guy, Ryan. I don't know.

Speaker 5 I like Billy.

Speaker 89 You probably had those guys

Speaker 54 at ESPN.

Speaker 5 So Deion once told us it was a very apt thing about the locker room dynamic.

Speaker 17 He's like, there's at least two guys in every locker room that's an I love you guy where you have to check in with him and be like, hey, man, I love you.

Speaker 42 Like, straight up, I love you. Just so that they don't go crazy.

Speaker 74 That's Billy. No, no,

Speaker 74 I'm not an I love you guy by any means.

Speaker 39 Sounds like you're Brady.

Speaker 38 Antonio Brown.

Speaker 67 Tom Brady literally is making love to Antonio Brown to keep him like playing football,

Speaker 54 living in his house.

Speaker 143 He's the ultimate I love you guy.

Speaker 44 You too.

Speaker 123 This is awesome because every time it sounds like Big Cat's going to compliment Billy, it's

Speaker 60 not. No, I get it.
That's the whole.

Speaker 19 And then every now and then.

Speaker 174 I might be a podcasting I love you guy now that I think about it.

Speaker 14 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 17 I love you.

Speaker 52 No, Billy.

Speaker 39 No, for real, though.

Speaker 167 Podcaster world? I mean.

Speaker 74 Yo, Hank, cut this part.

Speaker 13 Cut this part.

Speaker 52 I love you, dude.

Speaker 151 I don't believe that.

Speaker 93 Yeah, I love you.

Speaker 138 For real.

Speaker 60 Anyway. I do like Billy, though.

Speaker 101 I do.

Speaker 27 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 151 He had a big influence on me when I was 18 and we came to ESPN.

Speaker 11 He doesn't want to hear that, though, Billy, because now he's like,

Speaker 41 no, it's a compliment.

Speaker 11 He's like, that's the kid that I looked up to can only bench 285.

Speaker 57 What was the big influence?

Speaker 170 Well, I just like, we went to his show and it was like really like big for me. I was like, it was like, I was, it was so cool to see like what was going on.

Speaker 128 It was like a big moment in my life.

Speaker 54 Okay, but

Speaker 55 you're leaving out a very important part.

Speaker 60 You didn't know who I was

Speaker 96 at all.

Speaker 170 Look, I'm not, I was 18.

Speaker 110 Like, you know, I don't listen to the radio.

Speaker 47 I was 18, but now I'm like, I got into that world.

Speaker 174 I was like, wow, like, you know, like, podcasting is a gateway drug to radio.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah. This is what is it, best in show?

Speaker 127 And it's like Sting.

Speaker 54 Or no, Zoolander Sting is one of my heroes.

Speaker 2 I don't really listen to him.

Speaker 27 I was like, wow, this guy's really cool.

Speaker 68 I want to be like this guy.

Speaker 150 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 17 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 31 It is

Speaker 57 actor and now author Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 13 He's got a his memoir out October 20th. It's called Green Lights.

Speaker 9 It is, I'll say it right now, the coolest memoir of all time because it is his life experience teaching you about how to live life, how to be cool. But more than anything, you wrote it.

Speaker 55 You had a journal for 35 years, and then I read that you wrote it by going into the desert for 52 days without electricity.

Speaker 36 Is that true?

Speaker 124 The first 12 days were without electricity. So I had a generator on me

Speaker 124 and I pack up these 36 years worth of diaries. I put them in the navigator.
I buy

Speaker 124 20 one and 5 eighth inch ribeyes.

Speaker 124 I ziplock them. I get my long branch.
I get three five gallon jugs of water and a generator and my laptop and a printer. And I headed out to this cabin in the desert.

Speaker 124 So for the first 12 days were that was me. And then the other, the other places I went after that were in the desert, but I did leave the generator and got some AC power hookup.

Speaker 124 So I had a little electricity.

Speaker 11 Like going back and reading that stuff, was that the first time that you'd sat down and read your thoughts?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 124 Yeah, it was. I mean, I write this in the book.
I always write things down, not to remember. I write things down so I can forget them.
You know, so I can go, oh, jotted that down. Cool.

Speaker 124 Now I can forget it. And that's what I've been doing since I was 14.

Speaker 124 But I'll mind you, you know, the early stuff. At 14, I'm a 14-year-old kid writing, going to my,

Speaker 124 you know, for this reason that most people go to their diary to write about the shitty stuff, to write about, oh, you know, Gretchen broke up with me or, you know, Kathy Cook won't go out with me or this worked out or I got to second base last night or some kind of thing like that.

Speaker 124 And then in my early 20s, I had a time where I was kind of rolling, catching a lot of green lights. I was in college.
My relationships were good.

Speaker 124 Man, I would think I was making a little money, had a little money in my pocket.

Speaker 124 And

Speaker 124 I said, you know what, McConaughey, hey, go write in your diary now while you're rolling. Go dissect this success you're having right now because

Speaker 124 you may get in a rut again, which I did, which we all do. And you can go back and look at what was I doing when I was rolling? Who was I hanging out with? Where was I going? What was I eating?

Speaker 124 What was I drinking? How was I seeing the world? And so that was something that I was happy I've done through my life is try to write things down when things are going well because

Speaker 124 another rut's always coming. And when you, if you, if you keep track and make a little bit of a, there's a science to some satisfaction.

Speaker 124 There's some habits that I've found that I've had that have helped me be more satisfied. And they helped me get out of some of those ruts.

Speaker 43 You can make a living. You can make a living on that.

Speaker 115 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 11 There was one quote that you put in your book that you did not expand on. And I'm curious to hear the entire backstory behind this.
You just kind of, this is like a throwaway line.

Speaker 11 If you're Matthew McConaughey, this is how cool you are. You can just toss this out here and forget that you even said it.

Speaker 11 You said, I've done peyote in Real de Catorse, Mexico, in a cage with a mountain lion.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Then you just moved on from that.

Speaker 11 What's the story? How did that go down?

Speaker 124 Well, I'm in Real de Catorse and I'd gone off on a sunrise walk with the shaman.

Speaker 124 And he was very in a very cool

Speaker 124 way that a shaman can do slowly disseminating the peyote as we hiked up this huge mountain that took hours to hike up.

Speaker 124 And it was an awesome walk and it was an awesome return. And when I got back down

Speaker 124 on his property, there was this, he had this mountain lion in his cage. And I get up next to the cage and

Speaker 124 under

Speaker 124 so-set influences of such peyote, I'm getting on the same frequency of the mountain lion. And the mountain lion's getting on the same frequency as McConaughey.

Speaker 124 And so now this mountain lion's up next to the gate and kind of I'm just sticking whiskers through and I'm I'm I'm scratching his underlying and so

Speaker 124 I get confident that me and this mountain lion are on the same frequency. So I move over to the gate and enter so said cage.
Mountain lion jumps around.

Speaker 124 I move very slowly making sure to stay on the same frequency as so said mountain lion. I move over to the corner slowly sit down.

Speaker 124 For about an hour, this mountain lion parries back and forth and slowly starts getting a little bit closer and a little bit closer and a little bit closer until he comes up next to me and gets very close to my hand, wanting to get some more itches under his chin like he did when I was outside of the cage.

Speaker 124 I slowly give him a little scratch. I don't intrude his space.
I lean back. Now after that, that son of a bitch is sitting in my lap purring.

Speaker 124 And I sat there for another hour and a half, spent about four hours total in the cage, then slowly got up and went my way. And it was a really incredible experience.

Speaker 11 Is that one that you look back on in the diary and you're like, you're scared for yourself in the past reading it sober? No.

Speaker 108 No.

Speaker 124 No. I mean, no, I was, I was,

Speaker 124 you know, if you, I don't know if you've ever done a peyote trip with just peyote and water. And if you do it the right way with the shaman, I would say I was incredibly sober.

Speaker 124 I wasn't out of my mind at all. If anything, I was more in tune.

Speaker 124 than

Speaker 124 normal. That's a great thing about peyote done the right way.

Speaker 124 No, I don't look back on that at all. I look back on that and go, if anything, if you look through the book, there's times I've taken what would be considered risk that absolutely paid off.

Speaker 124 I would have regretted my instincts that I could make that work if I wouldn't have gone in.

Speaker 47 And you're.

Speaker 124 Just like that wrestling match in Africa. If I wouldn't have said yes to that challenge, I'd regret that to this day.
Yeah. And by saying yes to that challenge,

Speaker 124 gave me, it's given me gifts since because of the people I met, the lessons I learned, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 6 It's also, you kind of have like an out there where if things go wrong and Matthew McConaughey dies tripping on peyote by a mountain lion, like that's pretty much the coolest way to die.

Speaker 2 You're a legend forever right there.

Speaker 52 So there's nothing but upside.

Speaker 124 Yeah, I mean, you know, and to be part of the food chain.

Speaker 123 Right.

Speaker 124 Which is, if I can, if it can, if I can go, I hope that's how it is. I hope it's not by a random drive-by.

Speaker 27 Right. You live forever.

Speaker 124 I'd rather go move on as part of the food chain.

Speaker 52 Yeah, you live forever in that respect.

Speaker 11 There's probably also an element of the mountain line just understanding that this was Matthew McConaughey. He's pretty cool.

Speaker 105 Like, oh, this guy, this is the dude from the Lincoln commercials.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 124 This guy sits in his car and looks at longhorned bulls in the middle of the road.

Speaker 124 Doesn't go around him. He decides to let them have the right away.
He turns around and goes his own way.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right, so I had one last question.

Speaker 20 I found this.

Speaker 63 I love the scene in Wolf of Wall Street when you do the chest bumping.

Speaker 55 And then I read a story that you that actually you do that before you go and act every single time to pump yourself up.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 31 So can we do that once? Can we just do it?

Speaker 124 You want to do the Wolf of Wall Street one?

Speaker 2 No, or the one or just the Matthew McConaughey, whatever you're feeling right now, because you said you do it in a different

Speaker 78 tune or whatever you're feeling.

Speaker 111 Yeah, we can do that all day.

Speaker 21 Who's that bird?

Speaker 28 That's a cool bird.

Speaker 61 Yeah, that's fucking sick.

Speaker 106 I'll do that before, you know,

Speaker 124 before I'm going to go give a speech. I get, you get, get nervous or something.
Try it. It'll get you out of your head.

Speaker 124 And it'll sort of also doing that on your chest will lower your voice and relax you.

Speaker 11 And it makes people go, what the fuck is he doing?

Speaker 124 Which is also a good tool because they think you're out of your mind, which is usually somewhat true, which gives you an advantage when you go do what you do because you feel like you're on an island.

Speaker 11 Also, just the human body craves contact. So you start slapping yourself around a little bit.
You're like, okay, now I'm living.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 96 This is life.

Speaker 22 Blood flowing, man.

Speaker 27 Oh, love it.

Speaker 6 I love it. Well, this has been awesome, Matthew.

Speaker 54 Everything we wanted and more.

Speaker 53 Good luck trying to get Texas back.

Speaker 35 I don't know if that will ever happen, but you'll see.

Speaker 11 And we'll make the Red Wolves happen too. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 124 We be in process.

Speaker 36 We be in process.

Speaker 30 Help them.

Speaker 67 All right. See you, man.
See you.

Speaker 67 Dogging away.

Speaker 67 I don't know what I'm to say and say it anyway.

Speaker 67 Today is another day to find you shine.

Speaker 28 Oh, I've been coming for your love of the game.

Speaker 109 Day

Speaker 109 gone.

Speaker 109 me.

Speaker 109 I'll be

Speaker 109 gone.

Speaker 109 Some needless to say.

Speaker 109 Oh singing,

Speaker 109 I'll be stumbling.

Speaker 109 Sound and love

Speaker 109 is okay.

Speaker 109 Say after me,

Speaker 109 it's the better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 109 It's about me so

Speaker 109 that way.