Bryan Cranston, Trey Wingo And Week 13 Preview

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Today is Friday, December 4th. And we had Wednesday afternoon football.
And we have week 13 football coming up. And we're going to talk a little college football playoffs.
I love it. I actually really enjoyed Wednesday afternoon football and we have week 13 football coming up and we're going to talk a little college football playoffs I love it I I actually really enjoyed Wednesday afternoon football it was a nice little break in the middle of the week I don't want it every week but it's like surprise football is never a bad thing it was essentially the pinstripe bowl yeah it felt like a random it felt like I should be watching Wake Forest play Purdue and you're like what's going on I don't care it's football it's awesome who the fuck cares and i was glad that it was rg3 would have felt weird if it was a matchup of two fully healthy teams playing against each other but the fact that we got at least one backup in rg3 and then trace mcsorley stepped in cover god at the end of the game covered fuck yes covered uh i thought that it was it was appropriate for the day of the week that it was i like chaos just in general when it comes to my football season.
I would like to see, maybe not every team, but yeah, every team. I think every team should have like a 24-7 challenge that they get to use once a year where they get to pick an opponent and be like, we get to play you within 24 hours at this neutral site, and they have to show up and do it unprepared.
It's like the belt that they have in wrestling. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
The 24-7 belt. Yeah.
So coming out of that game. Now, I don't judge any of these weird games.
Whenever you take a game that's on a Wednesday. And they've been waiting to play it since Thursday.
And half the roster for the Ravens is basically out. And the Steelers have their own COVID issues.
I don't really have a big takeaway from it. I'm not going to say, ooh, this team looked like shit, or ooh, this team looked better, because I assume that the coaches are essentially saying, by any means necessary.
We just got to win this game. It doesn't matter.
Style points, whatever. Nothing matters here.
Just figure out a way to win the game. Doesn't matter how we look.
But with that said, can you remember an 11-0 team feeling as weird as the Steelers? And I think the Steelers are very good. I think they are the second best team in the AFC.
But it feels like the national media thinks the Steelers stink. I think Mike Tomlin actually thinks that the Steelers stink.
I really do. Because you're right.
Normally a game like that would be, it's a classic Mike Tomlin escape the stadium game. He's like, we escaped the stadium with a win.
That's something that he loves to say after any sort of close road win. But after this game, he was like, we sucked.
We absolutely sucked. He was the one that was saying it.
And yeah, I think it's fair to say the Steelers are the worst 11-0 team of all time. Let me ask you this.
Could the 2017 San Francisco 49ers in their last four games beat the 2020 11-0 Pittsburgh Steelers? If it's in San Francisco. I say maybe with Jimmy G.
So I do think the Steelers are good. I think their defense is very good.
I just don't. It's very weird because usually when a team's 11-0,

it just feels like it's being talked about a lot more as this dominant wrecking ball team.

I don't know what it is about the Steelers that has everyone like,

oh, well, there's other shoes going to drop.

I actually think that they should try to lose a game

just so that everyone can be down on them

and then they can come back and be like,

fuck you, revenge tour in the playoffs.

Either that or it would be kind of hilarious if they just squeaked their way to 16 wins and beat the football team by one, or won an overtime against the football team, had some really unimpressive victories, and ended up going perfect for the entire season, winning the Super Bowl. It would be very funny just to put that in Patriots fans' faces.
Yes. Well, now that I'm saying this, too, you probably shouldn't lose a game because you want that one by.
Although, what is the tiebreaker for the buys again? The 10th tiebreaker is point differential. No, I think because the Chiefs lost to the Raiders, if the Steelers dropped one to the NFC, they would still get the one seed, I believe.
So, wild card tiebreaker, head-to-head. No, this is for one seed tiebreaker one seed tiebreaker yeah so i i think i'm right yeah i think i'm right i think i'm right yeah so that means that they should lose this game they should probably they should probably lose this last chance um yeah good point big cat there you go listen you know what this is this is the point of no return for the pittsburgh steelers yep you either have to lose the football team this week, and then you're basically home free, easy breezy, don't have to worry about anything else, just kind of relax, go through the motions, get into the playoffs, or you have to sweat out and grind out every game, and it's going to be a battle moving forward.
If you're foolish enough to beat the Washington football team, so I hope that they're not. I do think that if they were to bench Ben Roethlisberger and some of their other starters later on in the season, like week 17, I don't think that Big Ben comes back ready for the play.
I think he will believe that he is benched because he's injured in that one week off. Yes.
And then that's going to mess with him mentally. So, yeah, I think you've got to lose on Monday.
You've got to lose on Monday. You have to lose on Monday.
I think we've decided this. I'm looking at it right now.
Yeah, we might get to, if they lose to an AFC team, we might get to the fifth or sixth tiebreaker here. Strength of victory, strength of schedule.
Strength of schedule will probably go against the Steelers. I think maybe that's what it is, that they haven't.
If you had to rank. So, quick power rankings before we get to week 13.
Yes. Chiefs, let's just do the top five.
All right, Chiefs. Let's just do the top five.
Chiefs one. Saints two.
Oh, we're going cross-conference. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I'm saying overall. I'm going to make a bigger point after this.
My hours of prep that I did for the power rankings are out the window. This is off the top of my head.
I can wing it. Yeah, I'm going to go Chiefs one.
I'm going to go Saints two. And now Packers fans will say, well, they beat the Saints.
That is true, but if you're talking about who's playing the best right this second, it would probably be Saints. Without a doubt, the Saints.
Right, so Chiefs one, Saints two. Should we go Packers three? Packers three? I mean, I guess you have to go Packers three? Yeah, we'll go Packers three.
And then. Then Pittsburgh.
Well, oh, oh, wait. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
What am I saying? Pittsburgh's three. No, Pittsburgh's two.
Pittsburgh's two. Now we're confused.
Here's what we're going to do. Power rankings, top five teams without the Steelers involved.
Pittsburgh is two. But I'm trying to make a bigger point.
So the Chiefs one, the Saints two, the Packers three. Number four, what? Bills? I'm going to say Bills.
I don't really trust the Seahawks. I don't really trust the Titans.
Yeah, Bills. Let's go Bills.
Bills four and then five, maybe the Seahawks or the Rams. I'd say Seahawks.
Okay, so Seahawks. So, again, I have the Steelers two too, behind the Chiefs.
But my point is, if you go through the top five teams, you can keep going. You can get to six, seven, whatever you want to get to.
The Steelers haven't played any of those teams. So that's probably why we're sitting here being like, you know, you have to get to maybe their win against the Titans to start saying, okay, here's a win that you look at and you're like, that's a team that you can compete in the playoffs.
And that probably is why we're sitting here being like, what's up with these 11-0 Steelers? But you know what we're not saying about them? We're not using the F word. No.
We're not calling them the F word. Very good.
Bud Dupree. Bud Dupree.
Great name. He's out.
I think the Steelers, especially if they get the one seed, then they basically, you know, whoever they play in the first round, or whatever, the whatever the second round they win they have to win one game against the cheats at home yep and i don't think i think that is it maybe it's a not a strictly coin toss maybe it's 55 45 Patrick Mahomes in a stadium named after ketchup i don't know that's gonna be tough i want to go back to the actual game on wednesday because first of all have to give a shoutout to RG3 for only getting a hamstring injury. I think we saw worse coming out of it.
The way that he was falling in the first half, there's no bigger spaz in the NFL than Robert Griffin III. That's the only word that I can use to describe him.
When he falls, his legs bend in directions I didn't think were possible, like what should be a normal slide. He ends up just like his ligaments collapse on themselves.
So I'm glad that he didn't get more injured than he did. Same.
And then John Harbaugh is the absolute king, the goat of being pissed off about a coach doing something to him that he would do against a coach in a heartbeat if he had thought of it first. Yes.
So the delay of game penalty at the end of the first half, it was obviously a delay of game, right? The guy in the Steelers was laying on the ground. Like 20 seconds, basically.
Totally burned the clock. And then John Harbaugh was screaming at the top of his lungs, and then most coaches would kind of let it go and not continue to bring it up even after the game.
Not Harbaugh. When Harbaugh gets outcoached or when another coach pulls one over on him, he will be upset for years.
It was like that Patriots game where they covered up the tackle. They made him change the rules afterwards.
Yeah, so Harbaugh, he's a guy that's in traffic, and he sees people driving past him on the shoulder, and he's like, look at these fucking assholes, and then he tries to steer his car onto the shoulder, and he can't make it out of the traffic jam. Yes, Scott Frost, shout out to Scott Frost.
He's number two right now in my power rankings of that. Oh, really? Well, did you, I mean, it was last Friday when they played Iowa.
He complained after the game that the Iowa sideline was clapping to simulate snaps in an empty stadium. That is a John Harbaugh move.
Yes. And Kirk Ferencz was just like, are you serious, dude? It's football.
i like john harbaugh and i think i think all this comes from a place of getting his ass kicked by jim growing up yep and so you have little brother syndrome oh he's the big brother well he's a little brother you know what i'm saying like jim harbaugh was getting into fistfights with his little brother as recently as probably 10 years ago trying to drown him so i'm sure he had to he had a lot of a lot of experience creating excuses for himself when he was growing up because you have to have a reason why your younger brother beat you up. Yes, agreed.
All right, so week 13. Let's do a little preview.
This is a weird slate. I don't think there's not a lot of, like, premier games, but there aren't.
I mean, it feels like a lopsided slate,

especially because we have three games after Sunday.

But we'll start with it.

We'll rapid fire through it.

Saints-Falcons.

I actually think the Falcons will win this game.

The Falcons always beat the Saints once.

They always just do it.

This is right in the middle of the Saints run.

This is right in the middle of the Falcons run.

Okay, so it's run versus run.

Yeah, the Falcons late season to get to 7-9, and everyone says, ooh, the falcons run okay so it's run versus run yeah the falcons late late season to get to seven and nine and everyone says oh the falcons weren't so bad run they're in the balls deep but doesn't it feel like it's been a little bit too long since we've had a heartbreaking atlanta falcons loss yeah i feel like that's like that's a volcano that's the the yellowstone super volcano that's 500 years overdue they did just lose to the Saints in the Dome three weeks ago or two weeks ago. Yeah.
No, you're right. I just...
I think I'm going to probably end up betting the Falcons just because everyone's going to say the Saints are going to win this game. How's Drew Brees doing? Another rib.
Another rib broken? Another rib broken. I ate the McRib yesterday, which, by the way, it's delicious.
That's the material that Drew Brees' rib is made out of yep a million percent yep uh bears lions who cares billy just asked me and i just couldn't even muster i mean all i'll say is that daryl bevel is not an interim head coach material that will get you pumped up just a news break for anyone who uh missed it on saturday matt patricia was fired there will be some people on sunday who tune in and be like what yeah matt patricia's not there it was perfect timing it was perfect time uh the only the problem i have with this is that the detroit lines interim head coach should always be jim bob cooter yeah always i know he's on the jets right now i'm sure he would love to be the interim head coach has a team ever done that like gone out and got a guy to be their interim head coach they should there should be that should be dan campbell just always ready to in the interim head coach. Has a team ever done that? Like, gone out and got a guy to be their interim head coach? They should.
That should be Dan Campbell just always ready in the wings. Yeah, that'd be amazing, wouldn't it, to get a dude like that? And Darryl Bevel, former Wisconsin quarterback, he is just, if you look at his face, you're like, that's just not, he's not going to get the guys pumped up.
He's an accountant. So that's what the Bears have going for them.
Also, shout out Matt Nagy for calling out everyone. Look in the mirror, dude.
Or maybe he's been looking in the mirror and he just doesn't like what he sees. The Bears are going to...
For the Bears to get me back roped in, they've got to win like three in a row. And I'll be back roped in.
I'm looking at Darryl Bevel right now. The best description I could give...
This is... This dude carried around a card saying that he was a Yelp power reviewer

and used it at multiple

Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville restaurants. Yes.

He goes everywhere with the

two-for-one coupon in his pocket.

Browns-Titans

is, I would say, the premier game

of the 1 o'clock slate.

8-3 vs. 8-3.

Tractor Cito season.

I'm excited for this game. This feels

like, if the Titans

lose this game, people will still be

Thank you. 8-3 versus 8-3.
Tractor Cito season. I'm excited for this game.
This feels like if the Titans lose this game, people will still be in on the Titans. If the Browns win this game, people will be very much in on the Browns.
I'm already very much in on the Browns. I'm checking one thing.
I think you know what that probably is right now. Weather? Nashville weather.
Weather. Sunday.
And it is going to be 47 with a 10%. That's not Browns weather.
That's not God OC weather. That's tractor-seato weather right there.
So I guess a lot depends on if Miles Garrett's playing. Yes.
Yes, that would be very important. If he's playing, then I could talk my – I'm certainly going to bet on the Browns, but I could talk myself into the Browns winning that game if he's playing.
If he's not, I think it's going to be a lot of hard yards via tractor seat. Yes.
Bengals, Dolphins, I can already tell Hank loves this week because there are so many big dogs. And I actually do think the Bengals will keep this close.
They're still playing, even though they're not good. They're still playing.
And the Dolphins, you go in this game, the Dolphins have to win this because they have a gauntlet coming up, so a little bit of extra pressure. This does feel like a weird three-point game.
It does. A lot of neon colors in this game.
This makes me sad because this could have been quite a game for the takes if it was Joe Burrow against Tua. Yeah.
And we could have decided at the end of their rookie years which one was going to be the better quarterback.

You're right.

That's sad to think about.

This does suck.

What are you going to say, Hank?

So right now, the Dolphins are 7-4.

The Colts are 7-4.

The Raiders are 6-5.

Baltimore is 6-5.

New England is 5-6.

Obviously, they have to win out.

But with a win over Miami in Week 15, the Patriots will hold the tiebreaker over the

Dolphins, Raiders, and Ravens. Whoa! Shout out to Tucker Boynton for that stat.
Whoa! So we're not done yet? Not done yet. Wow, still here.
Still here. Yeah, give me the stairway to seven.
Stairway to seven. Still fucking here.
Stairway to seven. Jaguars, Vikings, that's just a weird...
The Jaguars, whenever they wear their uniforms inside of a dome, I'm like, ugh, what's going on here? Yeah, you need the sun on that. You need a proper sun.
That one's going to go a million points over. I'll just say that right now.
52 and a half. I feel like the Jaguars can't – You've been seduced by Kirk Cousins.
No, it's actually more – So have I. No, it's more about the Jaguars' defense.
They give up so many points. I've been seduced by Kirk Cousins.
They love giving up points. Love, love giving up points.
Raiders, Jets – oh, by the way, I don't have a can't-lose parlay yet. If you guys want to throw out any teams that I could throw in there.
Billy? No. No, I said you wouldn't bring one to the table this week to Hank.
Well, I haven't. Billy, I'm sorry.
I've been working nonstop. Not all of us could show up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
I had finals. Oh, okay.
All right. You were playing Warzone with me at 1.30 a.m.
Wait me? Wait, do you think you're saying I wasn't going to break? You think I'm not going to do a can-do-sport? No, no. I just, I think that, you know, you're gun-shy.
You think I'm gun-shy? You think I'm gambling gun-shy? Are you crazy? 1-800-GAMBLER if you have a problem, but this guy has never been gun-shy to gamble. Ever.
In my life. I'll do two fucking can't-lose parlay for you.
Okay, but Gat, I've got a can't-lose parlay for you. You ready for this? Well, the Raiders are in it.
Okay, so the Raiders are team one. The Raiders are in it.
And then we're going to go with the Packers. It's team two.
Okay. Home against the Eagles.
Yeah, they were on my list. And then team...
Billy. Shut up, Billy.
Shut up, Billy. And then Team 3 is going to...
We're going to go with the Seahawks. Giants going to cross the country.
I'll probably have to add a fourth because those are very big. Okay, you want to add a fourth? Titans.
The Vikings maybe too. I might do all the big ones.
I might do all the big ones. That's a recipe for heartbreak right there because one of them is going to lose and you're going to not believe that that team is losing.
Yes, no, absolutely. And then Hank's going to be laughing in your face.
That's going to be the worst part. Correct.
I've never heard that. All right.
Colts, Texans. I actually know exactly what I'm going to do for Can't Lose Parlay.
We actually are going to be taking a break anyway in a second to do an interview. So by the time we come back, I'll have the Can't Lose Parlay ready to go.
Colts, Texans. Colts are going to win this game.
Is the roof open in Houston? Oh, good question. That's a question we have to ask ourselves.
They hit the quota. They hit the six-year quota.
I guarantee you that the president of the Houston Texans had a chick in his suite, and he was like, check this out. The roof opens.
And then he couldn't get it shut because they've never opened it, and they had to make a big announcement that the roof was open. That's absolutely what happened.
I'm going to go with Colts. I like them too.
I like them too. All right.
Afternoon slate Rams Cardinals. This is a this is a loser leaves town.
I think the loser of this game is going to have a lot of trouble. Agreed.
Get it back together, especially the Cardinals. If they lose, that would be four out of five in the fifth being a lucky Hail Mary.
Yeah. So watch out.
Wait, how are they? Oh, because the Cardinals are playing on Sunday, and then the 49ers are playing on Monday. Yeah.
Two games in Arizona. Are the Niners, are they practicing in that same facility? I don't know.
They splitting it? I don't know. They're going halfsies? Yeah.
You know what they should do? The old thing where you put a line down the middle of everything, and then you split it all 50-50. Yep.
By the way, I had a stat for you real quick about the Jets. If the Jets are seven-plus-point underdogs in the rest of their games, they'll set an NFL record for most such games in a season with 14.
Oh, wow. 14 games is plus seven underdogs.
You know what would be nice to see if Cortez did a half-and-half jersey of the 49ers and the Cardinals welcoming the out-of-town guests? Let him, yes. Yeah.
have the six be the Niners and then the nine be the Cardinals I like that I like that okay next up what do we have oh Seahawks Giants Russell Wilson splits home and road are jarring to say the least and here's another stat for you I don't know if Daniel Jones is gonna play but Daniel Jones is actually number one in the NFL in completion percentage for passes that travel over 15 yards. Wow.
Truly Danny Dimes. Yeah, how many of those passes does he throw? A good amount, I think.
Really? He's not a good Drew Brees, Joe Flacco type guy? No, I think they take some shots. Still, that one, I don't know if that also includes interceptions.
Like, those are completions. Yes, yes.
But still a little shocking to see that stat. So, yeah, I don't think he's going to play.
I don't know why you'd chance it. It would be so stupid.
And Giants fans would be like, well, PFT is saying that because he's biased. But I'll also echo what PFT is saying.
I don't think he should chance it. Oh, I'm definitely biased on that one.
But I'm saying as an unbiased person, I think it's stupid stupid to chanson uh and let's see it's going to be probably not rainy in seattle so the hand might not come they might start them who knows what's going on but if i if i were the giants coaching staff i would not fuck around with a hamstring right now no i would not absolutely not uh eagles packers packers are just going to kill them they're gonna kill yeah eagles are dead dead. And then the Patriots, Chargers.
This game is one of those ones where I don't care who's playing. All you have to say is Bill Belichick versus Anthony Lynn.
Yep. Okay.
Bill Belichick versus Anthony Lynn. Yeah, it's the biggest coaching brain mismatch of the year so far, without a doubt.
And this is a guy that coaches against Adam Gase twice. Yes.
lynn is a dumber version of adam gaze i think he's a better leader but i don't i think in a in terms of a strictly football sense he's like a second grader compared to adam gaze who's like a second year second grader who's already failed i'd imagine ernie adams has already figured out every single thing that anthony lynn likes loves has ever done on a football field and they have already shut it down. This, to me, smells like a Patriots win by three because Anthony Lynn mismanages the last drive of the game, leaving them with no timeouts left, and they have to kick a 50-yard field goal, which hits an upright.
Yeah, that feels good. That's a classic Chargers loss.
That feels good. All right, last up, the Chiefs and the Broncos.

I have bad news.

I think this game's going to go under and ruin everyone Sunday.

I don't like that.

Yeah, I know.

Why would you say that?

I say that because the last time these two teams played,

there's a lot of points scored, but if you look at the box score,

the Chiefs, I think, had a pick six, a punt return.

The Broncos' defense will be a little bit more game

than people give them credit for.

And?

And?

I gave you the nugget Monday morning. Right? Yep.
Yeah, fuck that guy. The ref show for the Buffalo Chargers game.
I'm following that fuck around. He's the guy that's the undertaker? Yeah, I fucking hate him.
Well, I don't know if he is, but I just hate him. So you're not going to bet on that game? No, I'm going to, but I just hate him.

You're going to bet on it knowing that you're going to hate the officiator.

Correct.

But I'm going to be very mad at some point.

I'm going to take the over on it.

I'm pretty mad.

You have to take the over on Sunday night. I know, but I'm pretty mad.

You absolutely have to.

I'm pretty mad.

That's fine.

Did you want to talk real quick about college football?

Yeah.

What was your take?

We can discuss.

Well, I know that you've been leading the charge against BYU.

No, that's incorrect.

Leading America's anti-Mormon bias, which is sad to see in the mainstream media.

What did you have against BYU?

Oh, Big Cat. You play who you play.
Big cat. I have nothing against BYU.
I have something against people who think that BYU has any chance, any chance, like not even a 0.01% chance of getting into the college football playoff. And that actually is not against BYU.
That's against the college football committee. The college football committee has shown time and time again, they do not respect non-Power 5 teams.
That just is what it is. So just suck it up and take it.
Cincinnati, who I've been saying should have a chance to sneak in there if things broke right, they probably won't have a chance either. So fuck you, college football committee.
BYU's not getting in. Sorry, guys, to break your heart, but you should have realized that a long time ago.
Does this have anything to do with 2018? Yeah, that one guy who's like, I didn't even, okay, cool. Wisconsin has heartbreaking losses every year.
So yeah, I don't know. BYU can't get into the college football playoff.
Let me list you some of their impressive wins. Give me a counter-argument.
Big Catise state yeah with their 31 to 17 third string quarterback you play who you play uh they defeated number 22 army by a victory of uh margin victory of postponed um they beat texas state by 40 they beat oh they beat the university of texas san San Antonio Roadrunners. Can't spell nutsack without UTSA.
By like 7? 27 to 20. Yep, so they beat them by 7.
That was like a 40-point spread. You play who you play.
You play who you play. Now they have Coastal Carolina this weekend.
I'm very excited for that game. So the argument comes down to, and I actually have B fans back on this i do want to see them in the in a new year's six bowl because i don't want to see oklahoma play georgia with half of their rosters out because they're they're opting out which is a smart move i want to see byu play one of the big boys listen so i'm all in on getting byu into the new year's six bowls i just want people to realize and this isn't even a hot take like it's not.
If you watch college football, if you know how it works, BYU, UCF went undefeated and they never cracked the top ten. Right.
So I actually agree with you. But what I do appreciate is that if you're a BYU fan, this is your opportunity to get to make a big stink and to say, we should be in the Final Four.
We should be in the playoffs. But Cincinnati has a better case.
No, but Big Cat, what I'm saying is, like, like if you're a byu fan you should be making this stink knowing that you're not going to get in there and then you get to claim a national championship when you play a weak team or hopefully a weak team in a new year six i'm cool with that and then you for the rest of time you get to say that we split this i'll put it into terms you might understand it's like uh One trophy can be married to many different teams at once. And BYU, you can be one of their wives.
So the college football playoff Twitter and debate is always ridiculous. But the prevailing argument now is everyone has made it, not everyone, but a good amount of people.
Ohio State's only played five games. Five games five games four games i think they're playing their fifth game this weekend they're like well ohio state shouldn't be in if they only play four games i agree with that i think they'll get to seven and i think they'll probably get in and guess what this sucks i i i it sucks to say it because i think it's wrong but name matters name matters Name matters.
Like, if you are a big boy, if you are a powerhouse in college football, you get the benefit of the doubt. Oklahoma has gotten that.
Georgia has gotten that. Alabama has gotten that.
Big boys get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to deciding those last matchups. It sucks.
I hate it, but it's the truth. And I think one thing they uh a few years ago was that controversy sells so it doesn't really matter if they they're about making money if they are going to fuck over some teams logically they really don't give a shit if they can get ohio state and the fan base and the alumni and the ratings from an ohio they don't care like you can't go back and be like uh sir sir it's like replying to to like a congressperson's tweet telling them to resign.
Like, they don't give a shit if they're logically incorrect about something. Their job is to make money, and they're doing a good job of it.
And this is why I'm very much, I understand why you have to have preseason polls. I understand why you want to sell those games in September of like, here's eight versus nine.
I am very much for the idea of not releasing a poll until October 1st or October 15th and letting the teams actually play it out so that you don't get like Ohio State. If they started on ranked, they wouldn't be ranked for right now.
Right. But but they didn't.
They started in the top 10 and that's where they end up. I just hope that somehow Clemson gets fucked by all this.
That would be very funny. Dabo would start his own committee.
He would start his own playoffs. Yeah, Dabo would be so, so mad.
They pretty much can't get fucked because if they beat Notre Dame, they're in. Right.
But if they lose to Notre Dame, he will cry. Yes.
He will cry and make a stink and be like, he'll do the old-fashioned Kirby Smart, I think it was, who was like, ask yourself who they'd want to face next weekend. Is it Clemson? No.
It's like, well, that doesn't matter because they beat you twice. Yeah.
But, yeah, college football, it is heating up. It will be interesting to see what happens down the stretch.
I think Army-Navy is this week too. Great uniform game.
That doesn't feel right, does it? Well, it feels right, but it doesn't feel right for other games to be happening. Yes.
Because this is the Army-Navy weekend, but everyone else is crashing apart. But it doesn't feel like

because our entire fall got pushed

back for so many weeks. Correct.
I just

need that game to be... Standalone.

Standalone. Yep.
There's not even going to be SantaCon

going on during it. Nope.

Nope. Everything sucks.

Actually, that last part's cool. Yeah.

Alright, let's do... We'll get to

Fantasy Lads before we do that.

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Okay. Before we get to fantasy lads.
Fuck lads. Fuck lads.
No, that's fantasy lad boys. Fantasy lad boys.
I have a very special. I told you.
We just took our break. We did an interview that will be airing in a couple weeks.
And during that break, after the interview, we had dinner, and I came up with the Billy Go Fuck Yourself, You Piece of Shit, Can't Lose Parlay of the Week. Can we get that in the app? Yes, hopefully.
Vikings minus two and a half. L.
What? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. Raiders minus two and a half.
Colts. Moneyline.
Vikings minus two and a half. Raiders minus two and a half.

Colts.

Money line.

Vikings minus two and a half.

Raiders minus two and a half.

Colts money line.

Packers money line.

You want to hear something crazy?

Yeah.

I think you lose because the Jets went outright.

No.

Yeah.

The Raiders are pissed.

They're due.

And this happened last year, I think, to the Raiders, where it's the end of a long season. You've been hearing John Gruden scream at you nonstop for about six months, and you hit a wall.
You hit the Gruden wall. Okay, so if that's – so do you want to – should I change it? Because now you are on the hook.
No, I want you to keep going, but just know that I'm – What would you change. I'm going to be taking the Jets money line.
What would you change it for?

What would you swap in?

I think I would.

Go ahead, Billy.

You can discuss in this, even though it's a fuck your face, you piece of shit.

No, you know what?

No, no, go ahead.

I want to help the AWLs win money.

All right.

I'll go Seahawks.

Seahawks minus three.

Seahawks minus three instead of Raiders. Yep.
Okay. Okay.
Wait, no, but you hate the Giants. That's true.
You despise the Giants. I actually don't despise the Giants.
Oh, yeah, you do. That's probably the tweet I get the most is like, hey, thanks for sticking up for the Giants.
It's clear PFT despises them. Well well i'm just saying you are over here gassing up the giants defense when by any measure the football team's defense is better they are very very good look i don't be like me saying i don't hate the packers you don't hate the packers i hate the packers you hate the giants i don't hate the giants i think the giants are a perfectly fine football team with a great quarterback this weekend colt mccoy.
Don't rush Daniel Jones back. All right.
Well, now I have to change it. Well, I'd go Moneyline, Bills, Packers, Steelers.
He's now just reading his berserker parlay. No, I'm not.
This isn't the parlay. I put closer games on the parlay.
Yeah. And then last but not least, I'd put Vikings.
Yeah. Okay.
Cool. Thank you, Billy.
It's going to hit. It is.
I like the confidence right there. Yeah, I do too.
You feel like you're kind of a homer betting on your cousin? Yeah. Your older brother, Kirk? Captain.
Got a lot of people saying the family resemblance is strong between you two. He's he's a mix between Billy Football and Daniel Tosh.
Mm-hmm. You'd be probably the biggest bro of all time.
Yes, yes. You look like Daniel Tosh.
No, I don't. Yeah.
No, I don't. I draw a line there.
You look like Daniel Tosh. I'm confident.
You look like Daniel Tosh was put in a microwave for 20 seconds. Yeah, that's true.
You look like there was a computer software script that was forced to watch 700 hours of mid-90s television, and you're like the no-good son of the family that came out. What? You look like Daniel Tosh when he, like if there was a river next to a nuclear plant, you took a dip in there.
And it's like, ooh, don't go in there. And then you went in there.

Yeah, like, you look like if Daniel Tosh was in Adam Tussaud's wax museum.

Okay.

And they had a weekend-long air conditioning crisis.

You know when they search for the worms

at the bottom of the ocean?

Anyway.

That's what you look like

if it was mixed with Daniel Tosh.

Okay, you guys, like,

aren't the freshest.

What?

Go on. I'm actually looking right now, you don't look anything like Daniel Tosh.
Okay, you guys like aren't the freshest. Go on.

I'm actually looking right now. You don't look anything like Daniel Tosh.

Anthony Jezelnik.

A lot of people. Oh yeah, that's right.

My bad, dude. Yeah, it's the Jezmeister.

Yeah, I was wrong. You're a Jez face.

Alright, here we go. Fantasy

This is so everyone

we got our Spotify

year in review numbers, whatever, and our biggest biggest increase we increased 106 percent in the uk whoa so shout out to the ukers let's before we start god knows why shout out to everyone who sent it to us hank showed me these numbers yesterday i don't even know we're allowed to say it but there was uh for spotify so obviously we're on apple as well but for spotify it was was like 200,000 people had us as their number one podcast. That's fucking crazy.
Like the most listened podcast of their podcasts. Thank you, guys.
And then you add like however many listen on everything else. Fuck, man.
It's crazy. And then all the dead people that are getting subscribed to part of my take now after last episode.
Yes. It blows my mind every time that happens.
so thank you. Fantasy fad lads? Enrude.
Fantasy lad boys. Roy.
Roy. It is a fucking UConn game.
One of the UK. Roy.
Hey, hey, hi, mate. Hey, mate.
Fancy a point, mate. Aye.
I'm going to do off-screening. Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait. There we go, there we go.
Wait, wait. There's only one Conor McGregor and there's nobody better And he's gonna knock out Floyd Mayweather So Floyd, watch out The address are coming You talk all you want But you'll do nothing Hey boys, alright Matt, here's Tommy Fury My start on this week is Chelsea Massive cheers Tommy Hey Chelsea The mates are gonna go get knuckered And throw a few quid on staff for the line this weekend.
I want to give you a big joint snog. Chugging fuzzies all weekend with the boys guys.
Oi. My sitting is Prince Harry.
Oi. Harry.
Fucking unroyal fuck. Fucking fuzzier.
Get out of the royal family in America. And my sitting.
Don't you love your grandma. He's a bit of McDonald's, he is.
Hey, cheerio. All right, I'll sit in trying to find my accent still.
You got it. Do you want some help? I'll sit in.
It's weed, bro. I want to stand with you on a mountain.
I want to stay with you in the city. I want to stay like this forever,

until the sky

grow down on me.

What a banger.

Anyway,

bangers and mash,

Mars Flipper is weed,

bruv.

They're not tested for weed

in the NBA next year.

So J.R. Smith

and the deal wait

is going to be getting lit,

mate.

Bit of wacky tobacco

season.

They're going to be

putting up big numbers

off some big blonds,

eh?

Yeah.

Oi.

Oi.

I'll see you next time. So J.R.
Smith and the dealer waiters gonna be getting lit, mate. Bit of wacky tobacco.
They're gonna be putting up big numbers off some big blunts, eh? Yeah. Oi.
Oi. Hey, this is all for fucking Shelby.
I'm starting bloke bottles, innit? Bloke bottles is good, mate. Mate, it's COVID free.
He's in isolation. They got cooped up.
We can see him on the telly if everyone comes down with the Black Plague this weekend. Bloke bottles.
Bloke bottles. I'm sitting the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Oi, these lads put up few points than Arsenal, isn't it? If all I have to watch know of a 27-nil howler, I'm worth swallowing umbrella, mate. Fuck Arsenal.
Arsenal, get out my face. Hey, Chelsea, we already know the mates are throwing a few quid on Stafford.
Oh, right. Mate's throwing several quid.
In fact, several quid on the Stafford. I've thrown all my quid behind the Come On New Irons.
That's right. Come On New Irons.
I'm sleeping John Wall. That's right come on you irons i'm sleeping john war that's right i'm sleeping john war that's how you do everything state side hey we're going to build around a wall and houston's going to pay for it i understand how that works and our nation's cap are over there the united states the expats for me personally big rossal wilson bro it.
All up, mates. It's George Harrison.
Hi. Hello, George.
My start-up is Bronny. Bronny going to play with his dad.
His pop. His pop-pop.
Pop-pop. His nan's going to be very happy about that one.
No, his pop-pop is my Ron James Sr. In it? Yeah, Sr.
in it. In it? In it.
My sit-up is Pottingham. They're at the start of the top of the table.
Top of the table. They got a few results.
They're frauds. They're frauds.
In my sleepers. Get them off my telly.
Nick Saban. He beaten the COVID, the Coco twice.
All right, Nick Saban. Hello, Governor.
Nick Saban. Fair play.
Go ahead. It's Ralph Frampton.
And my stardom is... And so Sally can wait.
She knows it's too late as we're walking on by. So Sally can wait.
Don't look back in anger. I heard you say.
Right. my sit-in is Meghan Markle.

She stole our halberdhaway Harry from us.

Royals, God save the Queen.

Sleepers, equine, tranquilizers.

That's the tits, boys.

That's the tits, isn't it?

That's it?

That's the whole thing.

That's the whole thing.

That's the whole thing.

We all live in a yellow submarine.

Yeah, that's the only one.

There's a fire burning through my soul.

Reaching a fever pitch.

I don't know this one.

Adele, what?

Yellow submarine.

Thick girl.

Out there in the hills.

I fought for my meals.

Right.

Well.

Right. Right.

Right. That's how much Right.
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Home.

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That's how much we care about the lads back in the UK.

It's the who.

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Right. Thank you.
Who, Billy, is who is from America? Yeah, who? Who? Right, for who? Who? For who? English. No.
No. No.
No. What? You got back to the cranium, Billy.
I'm pretty sure the lead singer of the Who is English. British.
British. Yeah, as in American.
British. You speak English.
British. It's like it's melting.
The sing-alongs with the lads were great. Proper, proper sing-alongs's really really I was I was taking the piss good I was taking the piss that's one of those things when people say I'm having a piss or like taking the piss I never know what it means.
Yeah, I mean you said someone's say that took my breath away. What was it? I'm gonna go have a brown? Crank a brown.
Yeah, I've never heard someone say that. Crank a brown.
Very vulgar. I need to go crank a brown.
Like, what? Was that poop? So the John Wall. You talk about fingering frogs almost every day.
That's true. The John Wall-Russell Westbrook trade was hilarious because it was a trade where I think both teams lost.
It's essentially the status quo. It's like, oh, so the Wizards are now going to get the seventh seed.
And I guess the Rockets maybe of John Wall, but you still have to play with James Harden. Yeah, it's John Wall, who's a ball-dominant point guard, going to play with James Harden, who he's going to hate.
And then the Wizards in the East probably improved by, like, two positions. Yeah.
And they're still going to get smoked in the first round. Yes.
I mean, I guess the big news is like there's a team that was willing to pay John Wall that much money. Yeah.
And I also, my other instant reaction from it was how long is it going to take for you or for everyone to have the Rockets make a deal and not be like, ooh, great deal by Maury. Because like initially was like, ooh, that's savvy by Maury.
And then I was like, wait, nope. Yeah, this makes sense for all the weird cap numbers that Maury liked to play with.
You're like, he's seen something we don't know. Nope, that's not Maury anymore.
So John Wall, the whole gang sign thing for him came back in the news like two weeks ago. I think that was the Wizards front office trying to be be like this is why we want to trade him because he made gang signs like three years ago yep but they were they were crip gang signs right yes now he's rocking red all the time oh that'll be interesting yes maybe you have to change uniforms all the are there are these fake uniforms that are coming around now i saw these new city is that the newest newest city uniforms Those are sick.
Because just nba is the one nba is the one league where i'm pretty sure someone in the league office is just like scrolling through reddit at all times and be like look at this fucking uniform this is cool yeah let's build an entire uniform base off of this the rockets ones they came out with their ass the blue ones oh they're like themed after the oilist jerseys but They just look like rock thunder jerseys. I'm looking at it right now.
Prompt to Jersey roast NBA City jerseys. I mean, that's probably because they knew John Wall was coming, right? Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. I'm doing quick, quick, quick off the cuff.
Love the Hornets. The Bulls are just blah.
They should spell the rockets rocc ets heat awesome um pelicans orlando cool i like the celtics ones san antonio's might be the best san antonio's are fire san antonio i'm i'm in on san antonio okay so there. Those are impromptu.
Anyone got any that they like? I'm looking at the Jazz is pretty cool. Yeah, the Jazz is pretty cool.
Oh, no, the Valley. Yeah, they look like that's Denver? No, that's Sacramento.
No, Utah is down below it. So now we have three teams that look like the Nuggets.
Yeah, Sacramento is the Valley. Okay, I like Sacramento then.
Is the Valley? Wait, is that Sacramento

or is that Golden State?

The Valley?

They're not.

Yeah, I know.

That's where they do porn.

Right.

No, no, Sactown is Sacramento.

Who's the Valley?

I think that's Utah.

No, but Utah's right there.

This has been great.

Sorry, everyone.

We're going to get to

Bryan Cranston in a minute.

Then we have Trey Wingo.

All right, Jake, you get that.

I'll do this ad. We'll figure it out.
I was going to say say the Heat one looks like a gender reveal that can't make up it's mind get me the valley oh it's Houston Phoenix alright let's get to Bryan Cranston awesome interview with Bryan Cranston best actor alive maybe television actor when your home system or appliance breaks down American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, Bryan Cranston. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.
It is the man, the myth, the legend, Brian Cranston. He has a new show out December 6th, that's Sunday, called Your Honor on Showtime, which I'm very excited for.
I watched the trailer. I'm excited for it.
Thank you for giving us new TV in a time when a lot of us are sitting at home, not able to go out to the bars and everything. My first question was, it's been a while since we've seen you in a big time TV show like this.
Was that a conscious decision to take some time off so people aren't like, hey, there's the meth dealing guy? Yeah. Hey, first of all, good to see you guys.
I hope you and your families are well and boy, it is challenging times, no doubt. This has been anything but a boring year.
Yeah. But I'm kind of looking forward to boring.
Yeah. Yeah.
I, you know, a career is made of a lot of decisions and you when I was steeped in Walter White world and Breaking Bad and what that became, I realized that, you know, that character became so iconic that it's going to be hard to lose myself or have an audience feel that they could lose their self looking at me in some other capacity. So I gave myself a moratorium of like three years.
It was an arbitrary number. I just said, I feel like I have to stay away from television for at least three years.
And so I did that. I went off and I did some theater and Broadway in London and did some films.
But for me, it's not necessarily the medium more than the story. If I'm compelled by what I read, if it touches my heart or makes me think or has importance in society or something, then I want to be a part of it.
And that could mean on stage. It could mean a film, could mean a TV show.
And this happened to be a television show.

Well, I read an article before this interview where you said, you know, in your business, sometimes people get fatigued of actors or characters. I want to push back on that.
I don't think anyone's ever been fatigued of you. The world needs more of you.
but it actually kind of worked that you that time you took off from being in a tv show

and then this pops up and you're like, oh, I'm very, very excited for this.

Like, I'm pumped that we get to see Bryan Cranston again. Good.
Well, I'm glad you're saying that. I hope everybody else says that, too.
I mean, what really got me about this show, Your Honor, was the premise that it asks the question, what would you do to save the life of your child and uh i don't know are you guys parents i am and i i i if you ask me that my son's 18 months if you asked me that two years ago i'd be like i don't care and then the minute you have a kid you're like oh my god sounds cliche, but literally everything has changed in my life. It really does.
And you wear your heart on the outside. And, you know, for guys, we take care of ourselves.
We get married. We open up that circle, take care of our wives and be protective.
And then you have children. All of a sudden, they're wait till they go off to school, man and you you can't control situations and it's it's tough um and here's a situation where i have a 17 year old son in the show and he gets involved in a car accident panics and leaves the scene of the accident which created a crime uh but he's a sensitive kid he did the wrong thing he tells me about it.
I tell him that we need to do the right thing or your soul will forever be stained by this. So I tell him we're going to turn him into the police department and go through the judicial system and hope for the best.
And that's tough enough. When I get to the police station, I discover that the kid who he hit who died at the scene.

His... And that's tough enough.
When I get to the police station, I discover that the kid who he hit, who died at the scene, his parents are grieving. They're at the police station as well.
And I find out that the guy, the father, is a notorious and extremely dangerous mob boss. so I know immediately that that guy is going to find my son and kill him.
And so that's all it took for my character to make that impulsive decision to say, we're turning around, we're going home, we're not doing what I said we should do, because everything, like you said. Interesting.
I like the notion of taking some time off to kind of reset and let the audience reset. It's funny because we were interviewing Matthew McConaughey about two weeks ago on this podcast, and he said that he had to do the exact same thing.
Two of our generation's greatest actors, Matthew McConaughey and Bryan Cranston, he had to just stop getting pictured outside shirtless so that he would no longer be receiving offers for rom-coms.

You probably had to just, yeah, like no more pictures of you

and your whitey tighties standing on a road.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaking of –

You've got to draw the line somewhere or you'll forever be typecast.

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

It's that Matthew just sent me his book, Green Lights. I'm looking forward to reading that.
But that's what you have to do. And what he did, take a journal, try some other avenues of creativity that stimulates you.
And, you know, if you're fortunate, which we have been, there's always avenues for you to go back and try something else.

Can you tell when you run into somebody on the street and they recognize you, can you tell right away if they're going to know you as the dentist from Seinfeld, as Malcolm's dad or Walter White?

Usually by their age, I can tell, or the gender.

If it's an older mom, it's like, oh, I bet that's a Malcolm thing there. In the city, in New York City, in more urban settings, older people know me as the dentist on Seinfeld.
College kids or guys, you know, who are just starting out your age, your generation. That's mostly Breaking Bad, I think.
Is that known? I think Breaking Bad, at least in my opinion, is I think it's the best television show of all time. And the character arc that you have when you're working on it, Walter White goes from, you know, the most mild mannered milquetoast guy that you can ever imagine to obviously like a ruthless killer and a criminal mob boss, essentially.
As you found yourself acting in that role over the course of those years, did you feel cooler as as like year three and four happened? You're like, I don't have to play nerd anymore. I can like shave my head, go around talking shit to people.
It's really something there's there is something innate in confidence. And I you know, when I cast people in as I direct and produce now, too, so I'm also casting when I see an actor come in filled with confidence, it gives me confidence that they can do what they say they can do.
And I think that goes a long way. I try to tell high school and college kids, be bold, take a step out, look someone in the eye, have confidence in that.
If you see someone who walks into a room looking for a job and they're like, well, maybe and I don't know. But I'm not winning them.
You know, I look at that and I go, I'm not sure that I can trust that if they get on the set that they can do this job. Yeah.
So confidence is everything. That's I mean, we that's probably the compliment we get the most in terms of our sports opinions.
We have we are terrible with them. Our takes are terrible, but we say them confidently enough that people think we're right uh why do you hang on hang on there's a difference between confidence and arrogance yeah yeah we're arrogant that's all right so here's an arrogance arrogance plays in sports yeah here's an arrogance confident question uh how big of an asterisk do we put next to the dodgers world series victory because it was only 60 games and it didn't really count? Shut up.
Shut up. That's an arrogant question.
How about going back to 2017 and telling the Houston asterisk that they don't deserve that trophy? Yes, yes. So you obviously are a big Dodgers fan.
Are you a Lakers fan as well? Has this been like, you know? I'm a homer. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, so I'm straight down the line for all the teams here like you know i'm a homer i was born and raised in los angeles so i'm i'm

straight down the line for all the teams here you know the rams left me 20 years ago and then they came back and you know i i they they thought that they can just win me over right away like your girlfriend dumped you and then she comes back and tries to just pick up where they left off. It's like, hey, not so fast.
I can smell St. Louis all over you.
Yep. So I'm kind of warming up to that, although I also start to really like the New Orleans Saints in football because I spent so much time down there shooting this series and got to know Sean Payton and went to some of the games, and it's a lot fun that team's really fun I think they're going to do well this year so so your honor obviously yeah like you just said takes place in New Orleans how much uh New Orleans do we get because I love you know when you watch a show and like the wire is Baltimore or Breaking Bad you know you're in the middle of the desert how much do we get of New Orleans New Orleans? How much of New Orleans is a character in this show? You get it.
We did this right. I think we gave it its prominence and we're in the court system.
We're in the French quarter. We're along the Mississippi River.
We're seeing the streetcars and the jazz and the second line marching during funerals. And I mean, it's the food.
It's such a passionate city. It was great to work down there.
And it was a great backdrop for this story. Do you think that you're the best actor in television history? Do you think so? I'm going to say something with confidence yes no i think you are i don't you know i honestly don't think in those terms i have no idea i i don't really care i don't think that can be answered and it's not even important to answer it um i just do the work i have a blue collar background um you know we didn't have money growing up.
My parents split up. We got kicked out of our house for foreclosed on.
I had to live with my grandparents for a year. It's just so it was it was a tough, confusing kind of childhood.
And you navigate your way through it. And the thing that I took with me that always was in my back pocket is the ability to work and to shut up, keep your nose clean, do the work.
And that's all I know how to do. Some young actors will tell me, well, what do you attribute it to? And I go, I really don't know.
I just keep working. So when it comes to awards and things like that, which I've had an abundance of given to me, which I'm very happy about.
But it's always come as a surprise. Just, you know, someone taps me on the shoulder.
I'm focused on the work and someone wants to honor me. Oh, that's great.
so you know that that's that's the basis of it um i don't i just love to work i love to tell stories and um i think it's one of the sweetest things about human beings is that whether you're two or 102 you always want to be told a story yeah that's a good point yeah i mean and always when i see somebody on tv and if it's an actor or an actress and they can cry on command to me that's just like a cheat code i'm like well they must be the best actor of all time like i'll give i'll give you a specific scene um i think it was an ozymandias it was the one where hank got killed right yeah uh i just love any series that kills anybody named hank just for the record that's our producer's name uh when he's killed at the end when you have that breakdown and kind of things become real you start to bargain you go through like all the stages of grief essentially within you know a 15 30 second time span what is um what's making you go through that do you actually get a little bit afraid in the moment and then, how long does it take you to like get back to zero and recover after shooting such an emotionally intense scene? Well, that's a good observation because it does cost you. Actors have to be willing to spend their capital emotionally.
In order to be an effective actor, you do have to have talent. I don't want to dispute that.
You do. But you also have to have an insatiable curiosity to be able to do the research, to be able to use your imagination on things you can't find.
The other thing is you have to be willing to open up the cavity of your life and say, okay, I'm going to appear in my underwear. I'm going to show that Walter White, when we first see him, was flabby and pasty and out of shape.
And I'm going to show that. And as embarrassing as it may be for you personally, it's right for the character.
So you have to go there and allow yourself to be exposed like that and potentially humiliated. But what's great about human beings is that when you get out of middle school, in middle school, when someone embarrasses themselves, everyone laughs with them and laughs at them.
You get out of, when you're in college and later, you see someone publicly embarrassed or humiliated, that's the last thing you want to do because you don't want it to be you. So you emotionally or even physically put your arms around that person to protect them.
And that's what draws in an audience. When they can relate to a person's flaws, when they're not perfect and they're trying.
They go, that guy is me or that's you. I recognize that person.
And then you take them on that journey with you and they trust you because you've shown them your vulnerability. I was in my underwear and that's all.
And those people are going that poor bastard man and he's dying of cancer and oh my god so i'm on board with you and then you've got them then you take them for a ride and you have a responsibility to fulfill that that promise and that's actually a great promo for your honor because like you said the vulnerability of a father being like what would i do for my son that's i mean i like i said i watched the trailer and i was like i'm in i'm all the way in not just because mostly it's you but also because of the story once you realize what it's about you're like damn this is going to be great do you um did you think the fly episode was boring no i thought it was very unique you're such a hipster hey man did you think it was boring no i actually i i didn't think't think it was as bad as people said it was. Some people said it was.
It was obviously very volatile. Some people said it was the greatest ever.
I just was like somewhere in between. It wasn't the greatest ever, and I wasn't totally bored to death, but I was like, all right, I'm ready for the next episode.
It's so interesting to, I mean, Vince Gilligan is such a genius that he was able to say, okay, what if we just focus on the minutest element, the smallest thing around? And he becomes obsessed with that, in this case, a fly. And so this little fly in Walter White's kind of damaged mind actually starts to believe could ruin his whole enterprise, could damage the credibility and the quality of the cook.
So he's got to get this fly. And it created anxiety with the viewers because we kept it so small.
Yeah. You're constantly waiting for the story to open up, and it just never does.
And you're just like, oh, God. Yeah, and I guess it was mission accomplished because it was beloved and also hated.
And I feel like that's – you can't have a better compliment than to be like, well elicited ultimate emotion on both sides uh from this episode that's right like you guys what you were talking about earlier do you want to go through life not taking a stand do you want to be reserved in your opinions and not no right or wrong here's what I feel you don't have to agree with me but this is what I feel and what I think. And whether that's making a prediction in sports or politics or religion or whatever, this is what I stand for.
And you can be respected for that. You're not always going to be revered for that or loved, but you will be respected.
Well, how about you make a prediction on the Rams over or under half a Super Bowl for Sean McVay during his time in Los Angeles? Well, God, he's already been there. You mean a Super Bowl victory? Super Bowl victory, yes.
Yep, yep. I think, you know, this team is kind of frustrating because it takes a few steps forward and a couple steps back.
Like last week's game was just like, what are you doing? But perhaps it was a good loss. Perhaps Goff has matured and realized certain things that he will need to learn if he's going to be an elite quarterback.
So let me say this. Let me say that he will, that the Rams will pull it together.
And I would say 75% yes, that McVeigh's stay in Los Angeles will produce a Super Bowl victory. This is kind of a weird question about sports and celebrity.
I feel like when people become A-listers, they just don't really care about sports the same way, or they maybe, you know, they got so much stuff going on. They're A-listers, so they're not like, hey, I'm going to sit on a couch for an entire Sunday and watch all this football.
Has that happened to you, or do you still like, hey, if my team's on, I'm going to watch them? The latter. When I was a kid, man, I watched everything.
I would even listen to hockey games on my transistor radio. I mean, I loved it.
Unheard of. But, yeah, I just don't have the time.
Who's got the time? Once you have kids and a wife and a ah, you're juggling so much. You just, you know, the demands of life.
But I try to catch the teams, you know, that I root for as much as possible and stay in tune with it. You know, like you said, I'm a real big baseball fan.
Yeah. And, boy, for the Dodgers to win this year was a real treat.
When were watching that that last game were you like what the hell is going on why are they taking blake snell out like you obviously were excited that they were taking from the game um but what were your emotions going through those like last three roller coaster innings i thought finally uh if you get that guy out in fact i think the dodgers should pick that guy up. They're talking about possibly trading him.
I think he's a gamer. That guy is tough to beat.
Former Cy Young winner. I couldn't understand why they took him out.
I mean, he gave up like two hits and it was like, re-yanked him immediately. And I thought, whoa.
So that's going to be debated for quite a long time. I think Cash is going to face a lot of criticism for that for years to come.
Are you a numbers guy, like a sabermetrics matter guy? Because I know that it can be justified in theory going back and looking at the trends when he gives up a certain number of hits after he's going through the lineup twice. But then there's also the other side where it's like, this is your Cy Young guy.
This is the guy that got you here. Let him keep pitching.
Which side of the debate would you find yourself on? Well, as an actor, you are innately an emotional person. You are in tuned with your gut.
How how does something feel what's your sensibility about something so it's totally not numbers not uh the business end of it and you know he gives up x amount of ground balls and so the next pitch should be such and such and it's no it's it's i think i think he went with the numbers and didn't go with his gut and you you saw, I mean, Blake Snell, no pitcher really should want to come out unless they injure themselves and realize I'm done. Right.
But he wasn't close to being done. So I couldn't understand.
But I rejoiced. Yeah.
All right. I had one last question.
Brian Cranston, your honor is coming out showtime on Sunday night. Very, very excited.
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All right. So we do a little thing.

People also ask.

So if you ever go on Google and it's like, you know, this is what, how tall is this person?

So one of the people also asked, so this isn't us asking, this is the people, uh, is simply

is Brian Cranston a nice guy?

And the answer is, uh, as an a-lister, as they may be, Cranston has been known to be

gracious, complimentary, and full of respect for those who came before him

and those who will come after him.

So it seems like you're a nice guy.

Is that acting?

Are you acting nice?

You know what?

Fuck off.

I don't even answer that question.

I think you're acting nice.

I think that's how good of an actor you are.

You're actually an asshole, and then you're acting nice,

and then people also ask on Google, and boom.

But no, seriously, it's actually rare, I feel like, for A-listers to be like oh he's also a nice guy so good job you know i i learned i learned how to behave uh very early on uh old friend is tom hanks and i worked with him several times when he was producing and directing and writing and And I saw how he handled himself on the set, doing work, being respectful. And the actors that I've worked with who I emulate and respect are also those who showed respect to others.
And be kind, be happy, be lucky that we're working as an actor i always remind myself of that every time i step onto a set it's like this is the greatest look at what i get to do for a living it's insane so why wouldn't you be happy yeah um yeah so uh i'm not sure if you know this actually you probably do know this in 2006, I wrote a movie about a high school dropout that makes and sells meth with his high school chemistry teacher.

So you probably I don't know if you spent any time in Richmond, Virginia, where it aired for the first time or Vince was around.

But if you truly are a nice guy, like the Internet says, I feel like five, six percent of residuals would be a fair thing to share with me i don't know maybe you can tell me what's industry standard here well i'm i think i think you're just froze i i don't i don't think i i didn't quite hear uh 10 10 percent 10 i heard okay i heard you say 10 yeah but it is so the history behind behind that is I didn't watch Breaking Bad for like the first two seasons because I was mad.

Because I wanted to make like a full-length movie out of it.

Then I started to watch it.

I was like, God damn it, this is the best show I've ever watched.

I guess I can't be mad anymore.

So you turned me.

So anybody out there that hasn't checked out, go watch Breaking Bad.

Yeah, it's a little show.

Yeah, it's a little show called Breaking Bad. But also feel free to send me a check, Brian, next time you get one in the mail.
I'm glad that you wrote that. And, you know, like what a common practice in Hollywood is for writers to write spec scripts, you know.
And so you write something that you think would sell and you can actually get a job off that script.

Whether or not that script ever gets produced is not as important. Right, right.
That was a nice guy answer. Very nice guy answer.
God damn it. All right, Bryan Cranston, thank you so much.
Really appreciate it. Everyone go watch, Your Honor.
Very excited for this show and appreciate it a lot, man. Thanks, brother.
All right. See you guys.
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All right, back to part of my take.

And now, Trey Wingo. And now for something completely different.
All right. We now welcome on our good friend, Trey Wingo.
He's got a new podcast. He is now a former ESPNer.
Although maybe you are an ESPN guy for life. Trey Wingo presents Half Forgotten History.
New podcast. First episode was on Wednesday.
No, Tuesday. Wednesday.
Wednesday. The new episode is out today as you're listening to this.
Who's on this episode today? This will be the first of all, it's always good to talk to you guys and it's good to see you in Zoom as opposed to just over the phone. Yes.
We're stepping up on a relationship, which I feel good about. But, yeah, next episode comes out today.
It'll be Darren Woodson, the leading tackler in the history of the Dallas Cowboys, three-time Super Bowl champ. And someone just walked right in front of the camera.
Yeah, that was Jake. So half-forgotten history.
I would assume you guys are now going to be going through something that we've half-forgotten or maybe full-forgotten. Is this a play on you smoking too much weed and having no memory? No, it's a play on me having too many cocktails and smoking too much memory.
By the way, we should say we're presented by Maker's Mark, State Farm, and McDonald's, so it all works. There we go.
The whole premise of the show was some of the best conversations I ever had working with these guys and talking to other people people in the nfl was not in front of a microphone in front of a camera we'd go out to dinner we'd be in the green room we'd be somewhere having a cocktail you know when you could do that and the stories they would tell were ridiculous and i was like people need to hear these stories so that's the whole premise of the show because if we don't get those things out now they may be forgotten in time and we're going to do it with a glass in We'll have a good time. I love it.
That sounds great. I love it.
So a little free tip, now that you're in the podcast game, let's get you in the news, Trey, because either way, we're going to market this interview as being like, Trey Wingo spills all about the salacious things going on behind the scenes at ESPN while he was there. Then you'll get more downloads.
That's how the game is played. Who was the guy who never flushed correctly at ESPN? Now that you're gone, you can see that.
Well, first of all, that would mean that I would actually watch someone while they were in there doing the flushing, which I just chose not to do, so I can't answer that question. Okay.
You can tell a boomer. Like if you go in the stall and you're like, yep, yep.
That's a, that's Chris. I will tell you a Chris Berman bathroom story though.
It's a good one. Please.
You ready? Yeah. It's not, it's not what you're thinking, but like, it was like my second day there and I was walking in and boom was in there, uh, washing his hands.
And I'd met him once when I was in St. Louis and I just said, Hey Chris, you know, it's Trey Wingo.
I'm new here. I met you in St.
Louis. He goes, oh, yeah, you were the guy that told me to try the Cheddar Smokies in the Bush Stadium press box dinner room.
He remembered what hot dog I told him to eat, which I thought was the most boomer thing ever, but it was very cool. And it just happened to happen in a bathroom.
I like that. All right, so I did read an article.
You talked about leaving ESPN. You said you have no ill will towards anybody at ESPN.
Zero. Hypothetically speaking, though, so you have no ill will.
Zero ill will. None.
Okay, so what about liking some people more than others? So if you had to rank who you like the least, this is an ill will. Who do you like the least at ESPN? This is an ill will.
Way to turn the tables. Yeah.
No, this is not ill will. this is an ill will who do you like the least at espn all right way to turn the tables yeah no this is this is not ill will this is just well look that's you still like them through all you still like am i going through all 5 000 employees or what what am i doing i mean how do you want me to do this uh all right listen because i think he can take a joke i tim hasselbeck sucked he was kidding.
No, I'm kidding. I was just saying of all my good friends, Tim would be somewhere there.
Look, you ask for a name, I gave you a name. Whoever you name there, actually, I always assume is the coolest.
Whenever you say, like, who do you like the least, and then the name that comes out, it's like, oh, that guy actually can take a little ball busting. So are you texting Tim Hasselbeck right now? I am.
I'm him know that this was you just were the sacrificial lamb and i love you all right so let's let's actually talk for real though what what did happen uh did you want to stay how did it all kind of break down yeah very very simple i mean it was you know i i explained it in the in the in the article look i knew pretty soon after they asked me to come do the radio, and I said, sure, happy, happy to do it for you, and I knew pretty early into it that it probably wasn't going to be a thing I wanted to do long term, so about a year and a half into it, which would have been May or June of 2019, we went to them and said, look, I just, we're trying to be as honest with you as we can. When this radio contract is up, it's probably not something I'm going to want to do again.
I just want to let you guys know, cause I don't want to leave you guys hanging. I thought I was being a really good employee.
I didn't want them to like, I didn't want to hold that back and then say, well, it's like a month ago. Yeah, I'm not doing this again.
And then they're scrambling and whatever. So I tried to be as honest with them as I could.
And we said in like May or June of 2019, probably not going to want to do this again. We'd like to go back to doing something else because I love the old job, NFL Live, doing the draft, Hall of Fame.
And that was awesome for me. It was the most fun I've ever had.
And we were having conversations in February and then things took a dramatic twist right after the NFL draft, which I thought was odd because I thought that went okay. Yeah.
Under the circumstances, you did a very good job. I think we even held up our end of the bargain and tweeted a stepbrother's gift at you.
You did, and I appreciate it. It was a shit show during the draft, and we didn't know what to expect, but all things considered, I mean, you played – I don't want to say you played traffic cop very well because I know that you enjoy the reefer a little bit, and that's probably a big knock against you if I were to say that.
Let's just – again, this is something that you guys have promulgated since Super Bowl 51, and I enjoy being the butt of the joke, but let's just be clear. Oh, butt of the joke.
Hey, hey, hey. Dude, your name's Trey, and you go on the golf course all day.
You blaze, dude. Okay, right, right.
Trey Wingo doesn't blaze. Wait, so everything happens.
So you're saying like February after the draft, did ESPN then say like, hey, you're not coming back, but you're going to be here for the next six months? Or was it the door was still open? You were talking about it? It was made pretty clear right after that, like in May or early June, that things were not going to go well. No, that's their choice.
My choice was I wanted to do something else besides a radio show. And I want to be clear about this.
It had nothing to do with Golick or Golick Jr. or anybody, people that work with.
And if you can see what they've said, we all had a blast. It was great.
It just wasn't what I wanted to do. It just wasn't how I wanted to continue doing things.
That's all. It was just that simple.
I just wanted to do some of the other things that I had been doing and I enjoyed. Was there a problem that future you kind of created? And after realizing, man, this is really early.
I don't like waking up this early. After a couple months, you're like, not something I want to stay doing for the rest of my life, you know, getting up at four o'clock or whatever it was.
No, that, listen, I'm completely honest with you. The guys that can do that are the people that can do it.
The men and women that can do it. They have my ultimate respect because it wrecked me.
Like it is much easier for me to stay up till three than get up at three. That's just the way I'm wired.
And I've been doing it. I was doing it that way 20 plus years.
And I tried to flip it. It was hard.
I mean, it was really hard for me. Like Golik is a freaking monster.
He can do it. And it's not a thing.
But he's like a like a cat. He can sleep anywhere.
You know, like you sit him down for two seconds, he falls asleep. I'm not blessed with that gift.
So that was a part of it for me. It really was.
I just that was the that was a really hard part of it for me was trying to flip to that schedule because it messes you up and anybody that says it doesn't is pretending yeah because it's hard so so um i actually i mean i respect the hell out of you to to go to them and be like hey this is what i i want to do i don't want to do this there's got to be a small part of you that that sees the silver lining in this that you've reached a point in your career where you can actually do that because I'm sure 15 years ago, Trey Wingo can't walk into ESPN management and be like, hey, I don't want to do this anymore. You're probably building your career.
You have to say yes to everything. Were you surprised, though, at all that ESPN wasn't like, okay, Trey's been here for a really long time.
Let's find something else he can do maybe it's not uh full full time or maybe it's not you know every single day but let's find something he's someone valuable enough to keep around were you surprised that didn't happen yeah two things there um this if this was going to happen to me it happened at the perfect time as you said I've been there 23 years you know I don't have to worry about my kids college education that's taken care of're on their way. So if it was going to happen, it happened at a great time for me.
But yeah, look, I thought I did a decent job, you know, and I thought that the people that responded on Twitter when it was my last day were my coworkers. They seemed to think I did a good job.
So yeah, I was a little surprised. But look, again, that's their decision.
They can do whatever they want. It's their company.
They can run any way they want. My decision was I wanted to do something besides the radio, and I had to be accepting and deal with whatever was the fallout of that decision that I made because that was the decision that I needed to make.
And so what does the ideal day for Trey Wingo look like moving forward? Now that you get to sleep in a little bit, you're doing the podcast. What's your next move? Well, we couple of things going which i can't talk about right now but uh things things are happening rather quickly soft core um yeah what was that soft core no i i was just guessing soft core no yeah no well if i'm if i'm going that way i'm going i mean you're going all the way in if you're gonna do that yeah i mean there's no reason to sort of dip in the water there.
But look, we'll have some decisions on that in the next couple of weeks, I would imagine. But at this point, I'm really liking the podcast.
I'm liking that part of it. It's fun.
I get to do it from my basement bar, which is kind of cool. And we'll see what happens.
Look, I'm thankful and grateful to be in a position where I can have a little time to make a decision and figure out what I think is best.

Okay, we play this game with everyone.

We name something, and then you give us just your instant reaction, what you think of, just boom.

This is what I think of when I hear this name.

You ready?

You want to play?

Yes, I'm in.

All right, Mike Morrison.

Uh-huh. Burke Magnus.
Oh, Burke's a great guy. Yeah.
Play golf with him a lot. Jimmy Pataro.
Never had a bad conversation with Jim Pataro. Norby Williamson.
Play golf with him here, too. Let's see.
see Trog Keller Trog was the one that wanted me to come do radio okay Wendell Scott I appreciate where you're going I'm just reading the ESPN directory of upper management word association but now these people are going to listen and they're going to hear you saying nice things about them because whenever someone's like, oh, they mentioned you, you got to go listen. And we actually do a lot.
Listen, we've had our issues with ESPN. We have friends there.
You're one of them. You know, Scott Van Pelt.
We have a bunch of friends there. Rachel Nichols goes down the list.
But Burke Magnus always deserves a shout out because he's the one guy who had our back. He is the one guy who had our back.
Burke was great.

I've known Burke forever, like forever, forever.

So, yeah, he's good.

So how far down this list could I go before you start trashing people?

I won't trash anybody.

You can say anything.

Robert Temple, you ever get –

Robert Temple, you ever work with him?

I honestly don't even know who that is.

Bill Geist?

Oh, yeah, what about Bill Geist?

Bill Geist.

Billy. Billy Man, G-Man.
Billy Two Shoes. Lori Orlando? Lori Orlando has not been there for a while.
Oh, I'm reading an old one. So you can dish on her.
Stephanie Drooli. This is like a 2012 list.
Stephanie Drooli? Yeah. Stephanie Drooli is one of the reasons I got on the NFL gig at ESPN.
Okay. She started out as a PA and is now an executive vice president.
We'll just frame this entire conversation as Trey Wingo names names. Yeah, you named all the names.
Big name namer. Now, to be fair, to be fair, I did say people's names.
Yeah, you did. In fact, you named them.
You named them. You named names.
Are you going to move out of Connecticut? Maybe. You know um we like it here um which i know is strange like we're we're both right out there is where they usually roam when they come out are you concerned that if a bear actually shows up at your door no one's going to believe you yes well no because we've already been through that we've already been through that experience what do you mean if a bear actually shows up? Are you concerned that your star is fading now that you're just a lowly podcaster, so the bears are going to be like, I don't even care about this guy.
He's not on SportsCenter or NFL Live. I think the bears come for the food.
I don't think they have premium cable. I'm fairly certain.
I'd assume with a podcaster's salary, the food probably isn't going to be as good in your trash. The bears have been letting Big Cat down for years.
I'm just telling you, our sponsors have been great. That's all I'm saying.
That's great to hear. Who at ESPN gets a private jet? I don't know the answer to that, having never flown on one.
That's a lie. You've flown on a private jet.
TV timeout. TV timeout.
I have never flown on one for ESPN. Oh, okay.
Follow-up question to PFT's question. Who on ESPN demands a private jet and then probably over-leveraged their negotiations? I have absolutely no idea.
Who was that? Who was that? Who was it, Big oh trentilfer oh it's 11 11 football camp was it really like i is that true i i literally never heard that before the story goes that herb street you know he he would have to fly sometimes from college game day to whatever game he was announcing that night trentilfer thought that kirk herb street had his own private jet as part of his contract that ESPN gave him, like Air Force Kirk. Yeah.
Air Force Herbie? Yeah, Air Force Herb. And then Trent Dilfer was like, well, I want Air Force Dilf if you're going to give that to Herbstreet.
And ESPN was like, no. I have never heard that story.
It might be true. I have no idea.
I have never heard that story. I hope that it's true because it's a very funny story.
It sounds like it would be fun if it was true. I think Herbie and Fowler, when he was doing game day two, they did have to hop a jet, but I have no idea about the other part.
Of course they did. That always makes perfect sense.
They're in North Dakota, and then they got to call a game in Oregon that night. Tuscaloosa.
Yeah, right, exactly. So if you won't name who your least favorite person was, I know you just tossed a name out there, but it's not Hasselbeck.
Can you say who's your favorite Golic? Including the Pugs. Well, if we're including the Pugs, it's over, right? I mean, Pugs win in life.
So if we're including, it's the easiest out for me to say, yes, the pugs, Hank and Harry. It is.
Yeah. Okay.
Excluding the pugs. You're right.
I gave you two easy of an out on that. No, no.
I followed your parameters. So I did exactly what you asked.
How much better of a golfer are you going to become in your retirement? Well, I'm not retired. Come on.
Come on. In a few weeks, we'll have a different discussion about that.
But look, I don't know if I'm ever going to get any better, but I just enjoy it. Like that's that's the simplest way to describe it.
I'm at a maddening number, which is about a nine, which means like, you know know half the time i hit the shot i want to hit but the other half you think you should hit it all the time and it's frustrating as hell are you a stickler for rules are you a golf snob no no i look i mean if i'm playing in a tournament obviously but i'm not one of those guys that's like oh you moved your ball an inch i claim the hole and i win by seven no it's not okay i'm out there to have fun i'm out there to have fun so i assume that you have to be staying up to date on all the nfl news on sports news whatever i actually i don't know that i know what your next gig is going to be but assuming that's going to be in sports at some level you have to be staying up to date have you found yourself listening to espn radio or watching espn programming to kind of like stay in the conversation and see what people are talking about? Absolutely. I mean, you know, I, I follow every, I watch every game.
I mean, I sit down like I, like I have for the last 18, 20 years. I watch every game on Sunday.
I watch every game on Monday, game on Thursday, even the game on Wednesday yesterday at three foot. Now I'm sorry, Look, I get the Christmas tree lighting is a big deal, right? I understand that.
But the game rating would have dwarfed that. Why didn't they just put that on NBC and moved over the tree lighting to like MSNBC or something? Then it's a big win for both stations.
You a big war on Christmas guy, Trey? You got a problem with the Christmas tree? Sounds like you hate Christmas trees. Well, we have a Christmas tree up in the house already, so that's not a war on Christmas.
I'm just thinking it was a win-win. They should schedule more Christmas tree lightings for after NFL games because I guess there's a huge audience out there that I didn't even know about that will tune in to watch a Christmas tree get plugged in.
So they should just do that. And the funny thing was this was like the the year where everyone was making fun of the tree, right? They thought it was like a Charlie Brown tree.
And that Charlie Brown tree said, don't make fun of me. Your little football game is going to go on at three o'clock in the afternoon against Jeopardy.
Yes. Move that football game.
So you, is it felt different though? Like being able to watch the games and knowing like Monday night football, you can watch the game and I don't have to get up in the morning and talk about this that must be a little that must be a little nice listen yeah that was a thing like i hated not being able to see a lot of the end of the games i i didn't like that you know if i'm going to talk about it i want to be able to see it and actually consume it so yeah i i i enjoy much more the ability to see the entire game and look at it that way as opposed to like, OK, what I miss in the third quarter, what I miss in the fourth quarter. I didn't like doing that.
How would you do that? How do you do that in early radio? Do you show up and someone's got like a sheet or someone's got the highlights package? How does that work? Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. You know, you stay up as late as you can.
Like it was a Super Bowl or a championship game. I would do it.
But it was, it was hard to stay up. You know, the games finish, you know, 1130, 12, sometimes national championship games even ran even later.
So, you know, it was, it was a, it was a dog fight to do that. So you, you get there a little earlier and go through the highlight packages and talk to people.
But I, I like, I like experiencing the games. I like watching the games and, and, you know, they're a communal thing, right? I mean, one of the funnest things about football games is everybody's on Twitter watching the same thing at the same time and sort of going back and forth.
I enjoy that part of it. I enjoyed that part of it a lot, and that was hard doing the other shift.
During your time off as you're preparing to announce your retirement, maybe this could be a good opportunity for you to like. So to be clear, what you're saying is in your time off to announce your future time off.
Yes, exactly. Which would be a great press conference to have.
Got it. Have you considering like reinventing Trey Wingo? Like, for example, you could show up doing the Colin Coward thing where you've got jet black hair coming back.
And then everyone's like, oh, yeah, there's Trey. Yeah, that's the 35 year old.
Yeah, that's that's not going to happen. I think I'm not doing that.
I think maybe a redhead. Maybe you could become a ginger or be a ginger yeah you could pull off a ginger look or it'd be like old ronald weasley i was thinking that you could do um just like update yourself on the movies i'm not saying you know come fully into the year 2020 but you could start making uh forgetting sarah marshall references and things from like the late 20-aughts and early 20-teens.

As opposed to?

As opposed to, you know, like the standard Anchorman, Stepbrother, which we all love.

But maybe just, you know, take three or four years step forward.

Never was it.

I mean, like Stepbrothers was not a movie I think I quoted a ton.

Anchorman, obviously you got me there.

There's no question about that. But yeah, we can move up to Forgetting sarah marshall that's easy i feel like that's a good middle ground yeah that's a good starting point what um who are the big guests you got coming up on your new podcast well we uh we like i said we just did kurt warner uh darren woodson is going to be coming up uh uh on friday or today when this is coming out it's a big guess okay hall of famers got a couple hall of famers does that count there you go big guess there was there was Emmett Smith Jim Kelly uh Victor Cruz got Victor Cruz is going to talk about the boat photo in ways you've never heard before oh hell yeah I like that they yeah they have the worst record in uh in football since that I boat photo.
I believe the way I described it to them.

I said, Victor, I don't know if you know,

but technically I've looked up and since the boat photo,

the Giants record is ass.

Is that your fault?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

I would have to say yes.

Yes.

That boat photo changed everything.

Everything for them.

So.

Wasn't great.

It was not great.

Football question for you. Who do you have winning the nfc east um anyone honestly at this point i still think the eagles tie against the bengals may give them the decider when it's all said you still man you think the eagles playing terrible you think the eagles are going to win that division i i i don't you can't count on anyone and they have a half win so at the end of the day a half win is better than a full loss i mean i'm just playing math at this point because everybody sucks yeah true yeah i mean it's uh so wait all right so who do you have in your you should have known so everything fall not falls apart but you know that you're not going to stick around at espn after the draft you should have done done like the craziest predictions on the radio show, knowing that you wouldn't have to be held to it.
That was a miss. No, that was a miss.
That was a miss. It's just not something I was interested in.
Listen, again, there was a lot of crap going on during that time. We were trying to navigate through some serious stuff that was happening in sports, around sports, in the country.
So we weren, we weren't doing wild takes. We did try one thing that we tried something about like, what was the wildest sports take you ever heard? And someone came with this incredible thing about why Lyman Bostock was assassinated.
And we're like, okay, we need to move on. We're just actually now I'm, I'm interested.
Yeah. I want to, I want to hear more about this.
How about Google? Roger Goodell has never suspended the I-5 serial killer, Randall Woodfield, who was a practice squad tight end on the Green Bay Packers. Absolutely.
That's a serial podcast right there. The I-5 practice squad killer.
That's a great title. I think he killed like 50 people, actually.
That's a perfect one for half-forgotten history. Yeah, I think that's mostly forgotten title yeah i think killed like 50 people actually that's a perfect one for

half forgotten uh history yeah i think that's mostly forgotten because i totally forgot it so that was good that'll be that'll be on season two totally forgotten history yes yes um all right i had one last question trey so retirement yeah congrats on everything uh unbelievable not retired not retiring did you get did you were you like so 23 years at ESPN were you like two years away from a watch or something was there something that you missed out on that's like damn well there's a couple like I think they give you trophies for like every five year increments like five year I think was Mickey 10 year was Simba 15 year was Mufasa I can't remember what I got for 20

I don't know maybe at 25 i would have gotten um uh mr incredible yeah that that mr incredible maybe would have i would have gotten for the 25 anniversary maybe that's why you got fired because i did i didn't they were like well we're looking at the budgets and we can't we can't afford this this uh the mr incredible coming up in mr incredible months yeah the mickey watch where his hands point to the different numbers by the way you didn't get fired you you mutually parted ways that was supposed to be a joke but it fell flat because i feel like that might have hurt your feelings i was i was gonna let you it's totally good no no you didn't sell it well it You got fired. To be clear, I'm not there because they chose to not bring me back.
So that kind of counts. I mean, that kind of counts.
You're not fired in my heart. It was mutual.
I'm not fired in your heart. You mutually didn't want to wake up at 3 o'clock every morning.
I cannot blame you for that. That I can confirm.
I would not want to do that either. But earlier in the interview, I jokingly referred to you as a traffic cop because I feel like that's what everybody like.
That's the standard line in the industry when they're talking about Trey Wingo. Like he is the best traffic cop that you'll ever get to host an NFL show.
Did you get sick of that of that label and be like, hey, I'm so much more than a traffic cop? No, because look, look, one of the things I loved about doing the NFL stuff was I didn't care about my opinion. I wanted to hear their opinions.
And my the only thing I thought my job was when they said something interesting or they said something stupid, which I was happy to point out, that was dumb. I wanted to have factual information to say why I thought that was really important or why it was really dumb.
I mean, people should tune in to hear what they had to say. My job was to get the best out of them.
That's what I enjoyed about the whole gig. Yeah.
Is that weird going from being someone who's more of a facilitator and trying to get the best out of whoever it is you're interviewing to all of a sudden you're on the radio and you're expected to bring your own opinions on everything? Yeah. And I don't mind having opinions, but my opinions were always going to be based on something.
Like I told them when I started, I'm not going to to be a hot taker it's just not like oh i think this because of this no i just that's not the way i wanted to operate yeah no i always i always appreciate your honesty because there is certain people in the industry that love to just takes for takes and going viral or having everyone talk about their take is more important than being right or uh telling the truth so i always and if they want, good for them. It's just not the way I wanted to do it.
That's just not the way I wanted to do it. All right, so everyone go download right now.
Stop what you're doing. Go download Trey's new podcast.
He has new things coming out that he can't talk about right now. Are you going to join the Skip Bayless show? Are you going to debate Skip Bayless? Give us a hint.
Are you going to be on TV?

I'll kick the coverage. Yeah, what are you doing?

Give us a hint.

I was winking.

You'll see me. I can promise you that.

And you will hear me.

See and hear.

Are you going to get arrested?

No.

Listen, I could.

I mean, that's always a possibility.

That's true. I'm smoking out there.
Yeah, right, right, getting all those bears high. But, yes, go.
Hungry as bears in the neighborhood. They don't move as fast that way, so it's actually a smart choice.
Yes, yes. But, yeah, go listen, Half Forgotten History, and look forward to everything that's coming up, right? Correct.
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All right, Trey, well, thank you very much, man.

It was fun talking to you. Good luck with everything.
You got it, guys. Yeah.
Good luck with everything. We'll talk to you soon.
All right. Cheers, Trey.
See you, man. See you, guys.
All right. So we're off.
So who is it? What name should we name? See ya! Fuck, damn it. Okay.
Let's wrap up the show. We got Fyre Fest of the Week.
We got... That's it.
In numbers. Great week.
Rounding up into Christmas. Everyone's got a nice little Christmas jolly feel, don't they? You know what? Christmas music hits a little bit different this year.
Yeah, it does, doesn't it? I think we're all looking for some positive music going on. Do you know what I like to do? Do you know what I like to do? This is going to sound really lame, but I'm not a big SNL watcher.
I kind of like to watch SNL in December just because you get to see the tree. Yeah.
I don't know. It just feels like a December activity.
I'll watch live SNL this week, and I'll be like, be like huh cozy This is all based around the fact that we've seen Snow falling on our score bugs On Fox on Sunday It just doesn't snow in New York anymore Well I guess I shouldn't say anymore Because it hasn't since the four years I've lived here But it just doesn't snow here First year it did and we had gray snow until April Piled up on street course The rats were true. The rats were very cold.
Global warming, am I right? Hank. I'm going, in the spirit of giving, I'm going to give my Firefest slot of the week to our darling Jake Marsh.
Oh, wow. Because I think he's got a more important Firefest.
We'll add Jake's, so why don't you do yours? Okay. You sure? Yeah.
We'll add Jake's. I'll make sure Jake gets his deal.
Mine's not even a fire fest. Well, you got roasted by the internet.
You got dragged. Okay.
So what? Oh, my God. Is this Billy and Jake teaming up? All right.
My fire fest of the week is that as the commissioner of school streams, I need to figure out how to discipline two players who may or may not be sitting in this room for breaking all the rules and never wearing their jerseys to games. Well, I've lost it.
And I don't really know how to do that. I wore something better than my jersey to the game, which is a shirt that I'm wearing right now, which is Clown Missionary, Clown Hank Lockwood, the clown.
I lost it. What do you want me to do? And also next year, get me black so it's slimming.
But I also lost it. All right.
You guys are going to get fined, though. Just put that on the record.
Oh, yeah? How much? TBD. All right.
Here you go. I never signed anything.
I'll give you my wallet right now. Oh! Oh, wow.
I've been doing that a lot recently, bringing that back, just taking the middle finger out of my pocket. It always gets people.
People are always like, damn. He's got a present for me.
Didn't see that one coming. No.
All right, PFT, your fire fest. My fire fest of the week is that I care about the Washington football team.
Oh, yeah, you do. I care about it.
Dude, I've known this for three weeks now. But I officially care, and I think that they're going to beat the Steelers on Monday.
You texted us on Thanksgiving saying Washington football team is going to win the division, and we all were like, I don't know, man. I officially care.
I was talking to our guys in DVE in Pittsburgh this morning. And I was like, yeah, you know, you get to play us.
So that's at least you have us coming off a short week. You know, we never win on Mondays.
And they were like, no, you're going to beat us. They talked me into it.
And now I'm like, I'm full in. And I think that the football team is going to win the division at 6-10 maybe even 7-9 I think that we're going to win a home playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals I'm calling my shot right now and it's a vulnerable position that I haven't found myself in in a long time and honestly it terrifies me a no, I could see this coming for a few weeks now.

I could tell you were sensing it.

You were feeling it the way you were talking about the Giants.

Yeah.

I like the Giants.

No, you don't.

You don't like the Giants.

It's okay not to like the Giants.

Mine actually is related to that.

I, and people are going to be like, oh, sick brag,

but the Steelers aren't going to win the Super Bowl.

Correct.

I want them to because I've, for once in my entire life, I got, like, the best line on a future. And I'm sitting here.
It's the Steelers to win the Super Bowl, 55-1. And I'm sitting here watching them go 11-0 and being like, well, it doesn't really matter.
Right. What's the line at right now? I don't know.
Like, probably, like, seven. Yeah, right.
And so it's the one time I've ever been sharp in my life, and the team is undefeated, and in the back of my head I'm like, no chance. Zero percent chance.
But to be fair, most of that zero chance is coming from the fact that they have to play the Chiefs. Right.
Right. It's one team.
It's crazy to think about. Anything could happen.
Like, a team could come out of nowhere. I could see the Titans maybe beating the Chiefs.
But it's a fire fest because I should be so happy. I should be like, 11-0, this is sick.
And deep down I'm like, nah, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter.
One time I'm sharp. It's crazy what our brains do to us.
Yeah. If I had the Chiefs at that, I would have already spent.
Yeah. I would have bought someone to come and dispose of Billy's body.
I would have hired a hitman for you. Is that your fire fest? Is that your fire fest? Yeah.
Go ahead, Billy. I don't know.
I'm just exhausted. You're tired? No, I just like, I got finals.
Yeah, you got finals. How are your finals going? Let's hear about it.
I mean, no, it's just like, I had a presentation tomorrow. I didn't really plan for it.
Give us a preview. It says.
Imagination. No no it's just like i have a presentation tomorrow i didn't really plan for give us give us a preview it's it's imagination no it's just like anyway it's like policy stuff anyway that and i need policy stuff what what is policy i have a policy proposal presentation oh what are you proposing it's actually very current what is it okay.
Why you shouldn't put me on a list for voting for Trump?

No, it's.

Dude, it's a.

You got.

Okay.

Mandatory vaccination.

No.

It's actually.

How the vaccines are one long con to put a chip in your brain.

No, it's actually on a pandemic response proposal for the future.

Taking masks off people's faces and throwing them into a burning pile.

No, it's actually about PPE.

Inject that one with COVID. Okay, burning pile.
No, it's actually about PPE, distribution,

and planning.

Okay, keep going.

Anyway, it's actually,

you guys want to

send the National

Guard to every city?

C-.

Inject them with

the coronavirus vaccine.

Dude, I need the

company card to

borrow to get

money for a tow hitch.

That's your fire

bill?

What about this?

Why don't you

invent a synthetic bat meat suit? You said people don't have to eat bats anymore. Yeah, the f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f*** will give you the company card when you give me a plan for how you're going to get my name off the title so I have to stop paying for it.
I'm literally just going to chop up the van. But that doesn't rectify the fact...
Just tell the insurance company that it's been destroyed. But you're not going to chop it up.
Is that how it works? You already said you're going to work on it. I don't want to work on it.
I'm going to move it and chop up. I'm going to have a van.
Billy's going to take it to his house. He's going to work on it.
He's going to pay someone to get it fixed. I'm going to have it in my name and then in six months, Billy's going to be driving it He's going to pay someone to get it fixed I'm going to have it in my name

And then in six months

Billy's going to be driving Vanny Woodhead around

And getting in an accident

It's going to come down on me

Or he's going to chop it up

And then pick out absolutely like a year from now

You're going to get something in the mail being like

Oh you owe taxes on your van

And you're like I don't have a van

You figure it out

Your dog ate my title you idiot

I need the fucking toe hit

Moron

Your dog ate my title

Thank you. Avivan, you figure it out.
I'm going to figure it out. Your dog ate my title, you idiot.
I need the fucking toe hit. You moron.
Anyway. Your dog ate my title.
Yes, he did. That's.
Okay. I thought your fire first was going to be that you talked way too much on Wednesday's episode.
Oh, you know what? Dude. I have like seven different people.
I don't think you talk too much. Who want so much from me right now.
Including my... Actually, I feel really bad for my group.
How many are we? Are we three or one? No, you're two, three. PFT wants me to put together something about Bryson Shambow's nipples.
I gave you a great idea for content. I know this sounds really rich complaining about this kind of stuff.
To play Jenga? I'm just really... No, it's fine.
A lot of juggling. Billy, you've got to stream.
I take back my Fyre Fest. My Fyre Fest is that...
I'm not... Don't feel sorry for me.
No, my Fyre Fest is that I have in my possession right now the one employee in America who could write the funniest, most comprehensive review of Bryson DeChambeau's nipples, indicating steroid use in the entire world, and he won't do it. I'm doing it.
I'm in the process. But it's just like a lot.
He's juggling. He's brainstorming.
He's mostly in the conceptualizing part of the process. Billy comes home from Christmas break, and everyone's like, Billy, how are you doing? He's like, oh my god.
My boss is up my ass. It was so stressful.
No, dude, I'm just continually, I'm just like fighting stuff. I've got a huge report due later.
I have a report tomorrow. I'm going to be up to like 3 a.m.
tonight. So when we finish the show, that's fine.
Do you guys ever get home from a hard day's work and your boss is so far up your ass you just want to beat your meat? Number eight. We love you, Billy.
We fucking love you, dude. You know that.
I love you Billy One of these days We love you You'll make enough money To afford shoelaces Yeah We're gonna get it this time Seven I feel it boys I feel like someone Is going to get this Eight Eight Eight Eight I'm a seven I'm a seven Eight If I get 69 I'm teabagging one of you. 8.
47. Bro, stop being muggy.
It's going to be 7. Just straight up.
What did you say, Liam? I love that Hank went to a British slang website. Picked up a bunch of cool words.
No, I just searched. Oh, I used to watch Love Island.
Oh, my God. 69.
It's 69. It's 69.
It's 69. It It's 69 He finally got it It's 69 He got it It's 69 No shit it's 96 Oh no Damn it Sorry Billy No it's 69 Hey Hey Hey Hey fucking teabag Wait who do you have to teabag He said somebody Somebody's getting teabag Billy What is it Yo Billy Billy we're not leaving this room I it right before.
We're not leaving this room until you teabag somebody. I told you someone was going to get it this time.
Hold it up. Yo, the biggest AWL out there.
If you think you're the biggest AWL, present yourself at the office tomorrow so Billy can teabag you. What's funny is Billy just went from being like, I had the hardest, longest week of work ever to he pulled 6ix9ine and now work is awesome.

He also broke my computer.

Love you guys.

You're not talking into a mic right now.

And Billy, you also

Animal Fact, Billy.

Animal Fact.

Love you guys.

Pigeons can a moment Can't

No

Squirrels can't throw up

I don't know what I'm saying I'm saying it anyway

Today is another day Thank you. Take on me, take on me, take me on, take on me, take on me, take on me.

Take on me. Thank you.
Take me off.