Bryan Cranston, Trey Wingo And Week 13 Preview

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a two for Brian Cranston.

Speaker 1 Some saying number one actor of all time. Television actor of all time.
Brian Cranston, awesome interview with him.

Speaker 1 He's got a new show coming out that you got to check out Sunday night, Your Honor, on Showtime. And then we have our good friend Trey Wingo, who talks to us about his departure from ESPN.

Speaker 1 He names names. He, listen, if you are looking for a salacious interview about a former ESPNer who names names.
Names names. It's Trey Wingo.
Talks about bears, talks about weed.

Speaker 1 And your basic Trey Wingo interview. Yes, names, names.
Got a new podcast out, so go check that out.

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Today is Friday, December 4th,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 we had Wednesday afternoon football and we have week 13 football coming up and we're going to talk a little college football playoffs. I love it.

Speaker 1 I actually really enjoyed Wednesday afternoon football. It was a nice little break in the middle of the week.
I don't want it every week, but it's like surprise football is never a bad thing.

Speaker 1 It was essentially the pinstripe bowl. Yeah, it was.
It felt like a random... It felt like I should be watching Wake Forest play Purdue.

Speaker 1 And you're like, what's going on? I don't care. It's football.
It's awesome. Who the fuck cares? And I was glad that it was RG3.

Speaker 1 It would have felt weird if it was a matchup of two fully healthy teams playing against each other. But the fact that we got at least one backup in RG3 and then Trace McSorley stepped in

Speaker 1 at the end of the game, covered, fuck yes, covered.

Speaker 1 I thought that it was appropriate for the day of the week that it was. I like chaos just in general when it comes to my football season.

Speaker 1 I would like to see

Speaker 1 maybe not every team, but yeah, every team.

Speaker 1 I think every team should have like a 24-7 challenge that they get to use once a year where they get to pick an opponent and be like, we get to play you within 24 hours at this neutral site, and they have to show up and do it unprepared.

Speaker 1 It's like that the belt that they have, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The 24-7 belt.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I so coming out of that game, now I don't judge any of these weird games.

Speaker 1 Whenever you take a game that's on a Wednesday and they've been waiting to play it since Thursday, and half the roster for the Ravens is basically out, and the Steelers have their own COVID issues, I don't really have like a big takeaway from it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say, like, ooh, this team looked like shit, or or, ooh, this team looked better.

Speaker 1 Because I assume that the coaches are essentially saying like, by any means necessary, we just got to win this game. It doesn't matter.
Style points, whatever. Nothing matters here.

Speaker 1 Just figure out a way to win the game. Doesn't matter how we look.
But with that said,

Speaker 1 can you remember an 11-0 team feeling as weird as the Steelers? And I think the Steelers are very good. I think they are the second best team in the AFC.

Speaker 1 But it feels like the national media thinks the Steelers stink. I think Mike Tomlin actually thinks that the Steelers stink.
I really do, because you're right. Normally, a game like that would be,

Speaker 1 it's his classic Mike Tomlin escaped the stadium game. He's like, we escaped the stadium with a win.
That's something that he loves to say after any sort of

Speaker 1 close, like road win. But after this game, he's like, we sucked.
We absolutely sucked. He was the one that was saying it.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I think it's fair to say the Steelers are the worst 11-0 team of all time.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you this: Could the 2017 San Francisco 49ers in their last four games maybe beat the 2020 11-0 pittsburgh steelers if it's in san francisco i say maybe with jimmy g i so i do think the steelers are good i think their defense is very good i just don't it's very weird because usually when a team's 11-0

Speaker 1 it just feels like it's being talked about a lot more as like this dominant wrecking ball team i don't know what it is about the steelers that has everyone like oh well this other shoe is going to drop i actually think that they should try to lose a game just so that everyone can be down on them and then they can come back and be like, fuck you, revenge tour in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Either that or it would be kind of hilarious if they just like squeaked their way to 16 wins and like, you know, beat the football team by one point or like one in overtime against the football team, had some really unimpressive victories and ended up going perfect for the entire season winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It would be very funny just to put that in Patriots fans.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, now that I'm saying this too, you probably shouldn't lose a game because you want that one buy.
Although, what is the tiebreaker for the buys again?

Speaker 1 The 10th tiebreaker is point differential. No, I think because the Chiefs lost to the Raiders, if the Steelers drop one to the NFC, they would still get the one seed, I believe.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 wild card tiebreaker, head to head. No, this is for one seed tiebreaker.

Speaker 1 One seed tiebreaker. Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 it would be good. I think I'm right.
I think I'm right. So that means that they should lose this game.
They should probably watch in football team. They should probably lose this game.

Speaker 1 It's their last chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good point, big cat. There you go.

Speaker 1 Listen, you know what this is? This is the point of no return for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 You either have to lose to the football team this week, and then you're basically like home-free, easy-breezy, don't have to worry about anything else.

Speaker 1 Just kind of relax, go through the motions, get into the playoffs, or you have to sweat out and grind out every game, and it's going to be a battle moving forward.

Speaker 1 If you're foolish enough to beat the Washington football team, so I hope that they're not.

Speaker 1 I do think that if they were to bench Ben Rothlessberger and some of their other starters like later on in the season, like week 17, I don't think that Big Ben comes back ready for the play.

Speaker 1 I think he will believe that he is benched because he's injured in that one week off. Yes.
And then that's going to mess with him mentally.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I think

Speaker 1 you got to lose on Monday. You got to lose on Monday.
You have to lose on Monday. I think that is,

Speaker 1 we've decided this. I'm looking at it right now.
Yeah, we might get to, if they lose to an AFC team, we might get to like the fifth or sixth tiebreaker here. Strength of victory, strength of schedule.

Speaker 1 Strength of schedule will probably go against the Steelers. I think that maybe that's what it is, that they haven't.

Speaker 1 If you had to rank, so quick power rankings before we get to week 13. Yes.
Chiefs, let's just do the top five. All right, Chiefs.
Let's just do the top five. Chiefs won.

Speaker 1 Saints two.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're going to go in cross-cuttings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm saying overall, because I'm going to make a bigger power. My hours of prep that I did for the power rankings are out the window.

Speaker 1 It's off the top right. I can wing it.
Yeah, I'm going to go Chiefs one. I'm going to go Saints two.
And now Packers fans will say, well, they beat the Saints. That is true.

Speaker 1 But if you're talking about about who's playing the best right this second, it would probably be the Saints. Without a doubt, the Saints.
Right. So Chiefs won.
Saints two.

Speaker 1 Packers three.

Speaker 1 Packers three.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess you have to go Packers three. Yeah, we'll go Packers three.
And then Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Oh, eight. Oh, sorry.
Sorry. Sorry.
What am I saying? Pittsburgh's three. No, Pittsburgh's two.
Pittsburgh's two? Now we're confused. Here's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 Power rankings, top five teams without the Steelers involved. Pittsburgh is two.
But I'm trying to make a bigger point. So the Chiefs one,

Speaker 1 the Saints, two, the Packers, three.

Speaker 1 Number four, what? Bills? I'm going to say Bills.

Speaker 1 I don't really

Speaker 1 know what they're going to be doing. I don't really trust the Seahawks.
I don't really trust the Titans. Right.
Bills. Bills.
Let's go Bills. Bills, four, and then five.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Seahawks or the Rams.

Speaker 1 I'd say Seahawks. Okay, so Seahawks.
So, again, I have the Steelers two behind the Chiefs, but my point is,

Speaker 1 if you go through the top five teams, you can keep going. You can get to six, seven, whatever you want to get to.
The Steelers haven't played any of those teams.

Speaker 1 So that's probably why we're sitting here being like, you know, you have to get to maybe their win against the Titans to start saying, okay, here's a win that you look at and you're like, that's a team that you can compete in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And that probably is why we're sitting here being like, what's up with these 11-0 Steelers? But you know what we're not saying about them? We're not using the F-word. No, we're not calling them this.

Speaker 1 Very good. Bud Dupree.
Bud Dupree. Yep.
Great name. He's out.

Speaker 1 I think the Steelers, especially if they get the one seed, then they basically, you know, whoever they play in the first round, let's just, or whatever, the second round, they win.

Speaker 1 They have to win one game against the Chiefs at home. Yep.
And I think that is, maybe it's not a strictly coin toss. Maybe it's 55, 45.
Patrick Mahomes in a stadium named after Ketchup. I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's going to be tough. I want to go back to the actual game on Wednesday because, first of all, I have to give a shout out to RG3 for only getting a hamstring injury.

Speaker 1 I think we saw worse coming out of it. The way that he was falling in the first half, there's no bigger spaz in the NFL than Robert Griffin III.

Speaker 1 That's the only word that I can use to describe him. When he falls, his legs bend in directions I didn't think were possible.

Speaker 1 Like, which should be a normal slide, he ends up just like his ligaments collapse on themselves.

Speaker 1 So I'm glad that he didn't get more injured than he did. Same.

Speaker 1 And then John Harbaugh is the absolute king, the goat of being pissed off about a coach doing something to him that he would do against a coach in a heartbeat if he had thought of it first. Yes.

Speaker 1 So the delay of game penalty at the end of the first half, it was obviously a delay of game, right? The guy in the steel

Speaker 1 20 seconds. Right.
Basically. Totally burned the clock.
And then John Harbaugh was screaming at the top of his lungs.

Speaker 1 And then most coaches would kind of let it go and not continue to bring it up even after the game. Not Harbaugh.
When Harbaugh gets out-coached or when another coach pulls one over on him, he will be

Speaker 1 upset for years. It was like that Patriots game where they covered up the tattoo.
Made him change the rules afterwards. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Harbaugh is, he's a guy that's in traffic, and he sees people driving past him on the shoulder, and he's like, look at these fucking assholes.

Speaker 1 And then he tries to steer his car onto the shoulder, and he can't make it out of the traffic jam. Yes.
Scott Frost, shout out to Scott Frost. He's number two right now in my power rankings of that.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Well, did you, I mean, in, was it last Friday when they played Iowa? He complained after the game that the Iowa sideline was snap was clapping to simulate snaps in an empty stadium.

Speaker 1 That is a John Harbaugh movie. Yes.
And Kirk Ference was just like,

Speaker 1 are you serious, dude? It's football. And I like John Harbaugh, and I think all this comes from a place of getting his ass kicked by Jim growing up.

Speaker 1 And so you have. Little brother syndrome.
No, he's the big brother.

Speaker 1 But he's little brother. You know what I'm saying? Like, Jim Harbaugh was getting into fist fights with his little brother as recently as probably 10 years ago, trying to drown him.
So I'm sure he had

Speaker 1 a lot of experience creating excuses for himself when he was growing up because you have to have a reason why your younger brother beat you up. Yes, agreed.
All right.

Speaker 1 So week 13, let's do a little preview.

Speaker 1 This is a weird slate. I don't think there's not a lot of

Speaker 1 premiere games,

Speaker 1 but there aren't. I mean, it feels like a lopsided slate, especially because we have three games after Sunday.

Speaker 1 But we'll start with it. We'll rapid fire through it.
Saints, Falcons. Saints.
I actually think the Falcons are going to win this game. No.
The Falcons always beat the Saints once.

Speaker 1 They always just do it.

Speaker 1 This is right in the middle of the Saints run. This is right in the middle of the Falcons' run.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's run versus run. Yeah, the Falcons late season to get to 7-9, and everyone says, ooh, the Falcons weren't so bad.
Run. They're in the balls deep.

Speaker 1 But doesn't it feel like it's been a little bit too long since we've had a heartbreaking Atlanta Falcons loss? Yeah. I feel like

Speaker 1 that's a volcano. That's the Yellowstone super volcano that's 500 years overdue.
They did just lose to the Saints in the dome three weeks ago or two weeks ago. Yeah.
No, you're right. I just...

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to probably end up betting the Falcons because everyone's going to say the Saints are going to win this game. How's Drew Brees doing? Another rib broken.
Another rib broken?

Speaker 1 Another rib broken. I ate the McRib yesterday, which, by the way, is made out of his middle break.
It's delicious. That's the material that Drew Brees's rib is made out of.
Yep. A million percent.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Bears, Lions, who cares? Billy just asked me, and I just couldn't even muster. I mean,

Speaker 1 all I'll say is that Daryl Beville is not an interim head coach material that will get you pumped up. Just a news break for anyone who missed it on Saturday, Matt Patricia was fired.

Speaker 1 There will be some people on Sunday who tune in and be like, what? Yeah. Matt Patricia's not there? It was perfect timing.
It was perfect timing.

Speaker 1 The problem I have with this is that the Detroit Lions' interim head coach should always be Jim Bob Cooter. Yeah.
Always. I know he's on the Jets right now.

Speaker 1 I'm sure he would love to be the interim head coach. Has a team ever done that, like gone out and got a guy to be their interim head coach? They should.
There should be.

Speaker 1 That guy should be Dan Campbell just always ready in the wings. Yeah, that'd be amazing, wouldn't wouldn't it, to get a dude like that? And Daryl Bevel,

Speaker 1 former Wisconsin quarterback, he is just, if you look at his face, you're like, that's just not, he's not going to get the guys pumped up. He's an accountant.
So

Speaker 1 that's what the Bears have going for them.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out Matt Nagy for calling out everyone.

Speaker 1 Look in the mirror, dude. Or maybe he's been looking in the mirror and he just doesn't like what he sees.

Speaker 1 But the Bears are going to, for the Bears to get me back roped in, they got to win like three in a row. Yeah.
I'll be back roped in. I'm looking at Daryl Bevel right now.

Speaker 1 The best description I could give,

Speaker 1 this dude carried around a card saying that he was a Yelp power reviewer and used it at multiple Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville restaurants. Yes,

Speaker 1 he goes everywhere with a two-for-one coupon in his pocket.

Speaker 1 Browns, Titans is the, I would say, the premier game of the one o'clock slate. 8-3 versus 8-3, Tractor Cito season.
I'm excited for this game.

Speaker 1 This feels like if the Titans lose this game, people will still be in on the Titans. If the Browns win this game, people will be very much in on the Browns.
I'm already very much in on the Browns.

Speaker 1 I'm checking one thing. I think you know what that probably is right now.
Weather? Nashville weather

Speaker 1 Sunday, and it is going to be 47 with a 10%. That's not

Speaker 1 Browns winning. That's not God OC.

Speaker 1 That's Tractor Cito weather right there.

Speaker 1 I guess a lot depends on if Miles Garrett's playing. Yes.
Yes, that would be very important. If he's playing, then I could talk my...

Speaker 1 I'm certainly going to bet on the Browns, but I could talk myself into the Browns winning that game if he's playing. If he's not, I think it's going to be a lot of hard yards via tractor seat touch.

Speaker 1 Yes, Bengals, Dolphins, I can already tell Hank loves this week because there are so many big dogs.

Speaker 1 And I actually do think the Bengals will keep this close. They're still playing, even though they're not good.
They're still playing.

Speaker 1 And the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 You go in this game, the Dolphins have to win this because

Speaker 1 they have a gauntlet coming up. So a little bit of extra pressure.
This does feel like a weird, like, three-point game. It does.

Speaker 1 A lot of neon colors in this game.

Speaker 1 This makes me sad because this could have been quite a game for the takes if it was Joe Burrow against Tua. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 we could have decided at the end of their rookie years which one was going to be the better quarterback. You're right.
That's sad to think about. This does suck.
What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 1 So right now, the Dolphins are 7-4, the Colts are 7-4, the Raiders are 6-5, Baltimore 6-5, New England's 5-6.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they have to win out, but with a win over Miami in week 15, the Patriots will hold the tiebreaker over the Dolphins, Raiders, and Ravens. Whoa.
Shout out to Tucker Boynton for that stat.

Speaker 1 Whoa. So we're not done yet.
Not done yet. Wow.
Still here. Still here.
Yeah, give me the stairway. Stairway to 7.

Speaker 1 Stairway to 7.

Speaker 1 Still fucking here. Stairway to 7.
Jaguars, Vikings,

Speaker 1 that's just a weird. The Jaguars, whenever they wear their uniforms inside of a dome, I'm like, ugh.
What's going on here? Yeah, you need the sun on that. You need a proper sun.

Speaker 1 That one's going to go a million points over. I'll just say that right now.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Jaguars can't.

Speaker 1 You've been seduced by Kirk Cousins. No, it's actually.
So have I. No, it's more about the Jaguars defense.
They give up so many points.

Speaker 1 They love giving up points. Love, love giving up points.
Raiders, Jets.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, I don't have a can't lose parlay yet. If you guys want to throw out

Speaker 1 any teams that I could throw in there. Billy? No.
No, I said you wouldn't bring one to the table this week to hang out. Well, I haven't.
Billy, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I've been working non-stop. Not all of us could show up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
I had finals. Oh, okay.
All right. You were playing Warzone.
Do you want to help me? Do you want to help me?

Speaker 1 Wait, do you think you're saying I wasn't going to wait for Playboy?

Speaker 1 Do you think I'm not going to do a gambler's parliament?

Speaker 1 I think that

Speaker 1 you're gun shy.

Speaker 1 You think I'm gun shy? You think I'm gambling gun shy? I think you're a little gambling. Are you crazy? 1-800 gambler if you have a problem, but this guy has never been gun-shy to gamble

Speaker 1 ever in my life. I'll do two fucking gamblers.
Okay, but Cat,

Speaker 1 I've got to can't lose Carl Life World.

Speaker 1 You ready for this? Well, the Raiders are in it. Okay, so the Raiders are team three.
The Raiders are in it. And then we're going to go with the Packers.

Speaker 1 Team two. Okay.
Home against the Eagles. Yeah, they were on my list.
And then team

Speaker 1 Billy. Shut up, Billy.
Shut up, Billy. And then team three is going to...
We're going to go with the Seahawks. Giants.
Seahawks, we're going to go.

Speaker 1 I'll probably have to add a fourth because those are very big. Okay, you want to add a fourth?

Speaker 1 The Vikings, maybe, too.

Speaker 1 I might do all the big ones.

Speaker 1 I might do all the big ones. That's a recipe for heartbreak right there because one of them is going to lose, and you're going to not believe that that team is losing.
Yes, no, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And then Hank's going to be laughing in your face. That's going to be the worst part.
Correct, never correct.

Speaker 1 All right, Colts, Texans. I actually know exactly what I'm going to do for Can't Lose Parlay.
We actually are going to be taking a break anyway in a second to do an interview.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to, by the time we come back, I'll have the Can't Lose Parlay ready to go. Colts, Texans, Colts are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 Is the roof open in Houston? Oh, good question. That's

Speaker 1 a question we have to ask this question. They hit the the quota.
They hit the six-year quota.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you that the president of the Houston Texans had a chick in his suite, and he was like, check this out. The roof opens.
And then he couldn't get it shut because they've never opened it.

Speaker 1 And they had to make a big announcement that the roof was open. That's absolutely what happened.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with

Speaker 1 Colts.

Speaker 1 I like them too. I like them too.
All right, afternoon slate, Rams, Cardinals.

Speaker 1 This is a loser leaves town. I think the loser of this game is going to have a lot of trouble

Speaker 1 getting it back together, especially the Cardinals. If they lose, that would be four out of five and the fifth being a lucky Hail Mary.
Yeah. So, watch out.
Wait, how are they?

Speaker 1 Oh, because the Cardinals are playing on Sunday and then the 49ers playing on Monday. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 are the Niners, are they practicing in that same facility? I don't know. They splitting it? I don't know.
They go in halvesies? Yeah, you know what they should do?

Speaker 1 The old thing where you put a line down the middle of everything. Yep.
And then you split it all 50-50. Yep.
By the way, I had a stat for you real quick about the Jets.

Speaker 1 If the Jets are seven-plus-point underdogs in the rest of their games, they'll set an NFL record for most such games in a season with 14. Oh, wow.
14 games is plus seven underdogs.

Speaker 1 You know, it'd be nice to see if Cortez did a half and half jersey of the 49ers and the Cardinals welcoming the out-of-town games. Let him, yes.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 Have the six be the Niners and then the nine be the Cardinals. I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, what do we have? Oh, Seahawks, Giants. Russell Wilson's splits, home and road, are jarring, to say the least.
And here's another stat for you.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Daniel Jones is going to play, but Daniel Jones is actually number one in the NFL in completion percentage for passes that travel over 15 yards. Wow.
Truly, Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how many of those passes does he throw?

Speaker 1 A good amount, I think. He's on Drew Breeze, Joe Flacco.
No, I think they take some shots. Still, that one, I don't know if that also includes interceptions.

Speaker 1 Those are completions. Yes, yes, but still a little shocking to see that stat.
So, yeah, I don't think he's going to play. I don't know why you'd chance it.
It would be so stupid.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Giants fans would be like, well, PFT is saying that because he's biased, but I'll also echo what PFT is saying. I don't think you should chance it.
Oh, I'm definitely biased on that one.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying as an unbiased person, I think it's stupid to chance it.

Speaker 1 And let's see, it's going to be...

Speaker 1 Probably not raining in Seattle, so the hand might not come. They might start him.
Who knows what's going on?

Speaker 1 But if I were the Giants coaching staff, I would not fuck around with a hamstring right now. No, I would not.
Absolutely not. Eagles, Packers, Packers are just going to to kill them.

Speaker 1 They're going to kill them. Yeah, Eagles are dead.
They're dead. And then the Patriots, Chargers, this game is one of those ones where I don't care who's playing.

Speaker 1 All you have to say is Bill Belichick versus Anthony Lynn.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.
And Bill Belichick versus Anthony Lynn. Yeah, it's the biggest coaching brain mismatch of the year so far, without a doubt.
And this is a guy that coaches against Adam Gase twice. Yes.

Speaker 1 Anthony Lynn is a dumber version of Adam Gase.

Speaker 1 I think he's a better leader, but I think in terms of a strictly football sense, he's like a second grader compared to Adam Gase, who's like a second-year second grader, who's already failed.

Speaker 1 I'd imagine Ernie Adams has already figured out every single thing that Anthony Lynn likes, loves, has ever done on a football field, and they have already shut it down. This, to me, smells like

Speaker 1 a Patriots win by three because Anthony Lynn mismanages the last drive of the game, leaving them with no timeouts left, and they have to kick a 50-yard field goal, which hits an upright.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that feels good. Classic Chargers.
That feels good.

Speaker 1 All right, last up, the Chiefs and the Broncos. I have bad news.
I think this game's going to go under and ruin everyone's Sunday.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Why do you say that? Why would you say that? I say that because the last time these two teams played,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of points scored, but if you look at the box score, the Chiefs, I think, had a pick six, a punt return.

Speaker 1 The Broncos' defense will be a little bit more game than people give them credit for.

Speaker 1 And I gave you the nugget Sunday morning. Right? Yep.
Yeah, fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 The ref show for the Buffalo Chargers game. I'm following the fuck around.
He's the guy that's the Undertaker? Yeah, I fucking hate him. Well, I don't know if he is, but I just hate him.

Speaker 1 So you're not going to bet on that game? No, I'm going to, but

Speaker 1 I just hate him. You're going to bet on it knowing that you're going to hate the officiator.
Correct. Okay.
And I'm going to be very mad. I got that point.
I'm going to take the over in it.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty mad. You have to take the over on Sunday.
I know. Yeah, but I'm pretty.
I absolutely have to. I'm pretty mad.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Did you want to talk real quick about college football?

Speaker 1 What was your take? We can discuss. Well, I know that you've been leading the charge against BYU.
Nope, that's

Speaker 1 America's anti-Mormon bias, which is sad to see in the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 As a friend against BYU,

Speaker 1 I've been confused as a family.

Speaker 1 Nothing against BYU. They're very nice people.

Speaker 1 They're very polite. They're very successful.
What are you going to say?

Speaker 1 They encourage a lot of positive activities for their children and being active in the community, things of that nature. It's sad to see you go against them, but you play who you play, big cat.

Speaker 1 You play who you play. I have nothing against BYU.

Speaker 1 I have something against people who think that BYU has any chance, any chance, like not even a 0.001% chance of getting into the college football playoff. And that actually is not against BYU.

Speaker 1 That's against the college football committee. The college football committee has shown time and time again they do not respect non-power five teams.
That just is what it is.

Speaker 1 So just suck it up and take it. Cincinnati, who I've been saying should have a chance to get in, to sneak in there if things broke right.
They probably won't have a chance either.

Speaker 1 So, fuck you, College Football Committee. BYU's not getting in.
Sorry, guys, to break your heart, but you should have realized that a long time ago. Does this have anything to do with 2018?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's that one guy who's like, I didn't even. Okay, cool.
We lost. Wisconsin has heartbreaking losses every year.
So, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 BYU can't get into the college football play. Let me list you some of the players.

Speaker 1 Let me listen to some of their impressive

Speaker 1 cat. Here's an impressive one.
Okay. Boise State.
Yeah, with their

Speaker 1 third-string quarterback. You You play who you play.
They defeated number 22 Army by a victory of margin victory of postponed.

Speaker 1 They beat Texas State by 40. They beat.

Speaker 1 Oh, they beat the University of Texas San Antonio Roadrunners.

Speaker 1 You can't spell Nutsack without UTSA. By like 7.
27 to 20. Yep, 27.
Yeah, so they beat him by 7. That was like a 40 point spread.
You play who you play. You play who you play.

Speaker 1 Now we have Coastal Carolina this weekend.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited for that game. So the argument comes down to, and I actually have BYU fans back on this.

Speaker 1 I do want to see them in a New Year Six Bowl because I don't want to see Oklahoma play Georgia with half of their rosters out because they're opting out, which is a smart move.

Speaker 1 I want to see BYU play one of the big boys. So I'm all in on getting BYU into the New Year Six Bowls.
I just want people to realize, and this isn't even a hot take. Like, it's not.

Speaker 1 If you watch college football, if you know how it works, BYU, UCF went undefeated, and they never cracked the top 10. Right.
So I actually agree with you.

Speaker 1 But what I do appreciate is that if you're a BYU fan, this is your opportunity to get to make a big stink and to say, we should be in the Final Four. We should be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But Cincinnati is not true. No, but Big Cat, what I'm saying is like, if you're a BYU fan, you should be making this stink knowing that you're not going to get in there.

Speaker 1 And then you get to claim a national championship when you play a weak team or hopefully a weak team in a New Year 60. I'm cool with that.

Speaker 1 And then for the rest of time, you get to say that we split this. I'll put it into terms you might understand.
It's like

Speaker 1 one trophy can be married to many different teams at once. And BYU, you can be one of their wives.
So the college football

Speaker 1 playoff Twitter and debate is always ridiculous. But the prevailing argument now is everyone has made it, not everyone, but a good amount of people.

Speaker 1 Ohio State's only played four games, or five games, five games, four games? I think they're playing their fifth game this weekend.

Speaker 1 They're like, well, Ohio State shouldn't be in if they only play four games. I agree with that.
I think they'll get to seven, and I think they'll probably get in. And guess what? This sucks.

Speaker 1 It sucks to say it because I think it's wrong, but name matters. Name matters.
Like, if you are a big boy, if you are a powerhouse in college football, you get the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 1 Oklahoma has gotten that. Georgia has gotten that.
Alabama has gotten that. Big boys get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to deciding those last matchups.
It sucks.

Speaker 1 I hate it, but it's the truth. And I think one thing they realized a few years ago was that controversy sells.
So it doesn't really matter if

Speaker 1 they're about making money.

Speaker 1 If they are going to fuck over some teams logically, they really don't give a shit if they can get Ohio State and the fan base and the alumni and the ratings from an Ohio State game. They don't care.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't go back and be like, oh, sir, sir. It's like replying to a congressperson's tweet telling them to resign.
Like, they don't give a shit if they're logically incorrect about something.

Speaker 1 Their job is to make money, and they're doing a good job of it. And this is why I'm very much, I understand why you have to have preseason polls.

Speaker 1 I understand why you want to sell those games in September of, like, here's eight versus nine.

Speaker 1 I am very much for the idea of not releasing a poll until October 1st or October 15th and letting the teams actually play it out so that you don't get, like, Ohio State, if they started unranked, they wouldn't be ranked four right now.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 But they didn't. They started in the top 10, and that's where they're on end up.
I just hope that somehow Clemson gets fucked by all this.

Speaker 1 That would be very funny.

Speaker 1 Dabbo would start his own committee. He would start his own playoffs.
Yeah, Dabo would be so, so mad.

Speaker 1 They pretty much can't get fucked because if they beat Notre Dame, they're in. Right.
But if they lose to Notre Dame, he will cry. Yes.

Speaker 1 He will cry and make a stink and be like, he'll do the old-fashioned Kirby Smart, I think it was, who was like, ask yourself who they'd want to face next weekend.

Speaker 1 Is it Clemson? No. It's like, well, that doesn't matter because they beat beat you twice.
Yeah. But, yeah, college football, it is heating up.

Speaker 1 It will be interesting to see what happens down the stretch. I think Army Navy's this week, too.
Great uniform. That doesn't feel right, does it?

Speaker 1 Well, it feels right, but it doesn't feel right for other games to be happening. Yeah.
Because this is the Army-Navy weekend, but everyone else is crashing apart.

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel like because our entire fall got pushed back for so many weeks. I just, I need that game to be

Speaker 1 standalone. Yep.
There's not even going to be Santa Con going on during it. Nope.
Nope. Everything sucks.

Speaker 1 That last part's cool. Yeah.
All right. Let's do, we'll get to Fantasy Lads before we do that.
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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 before we get to Fantasy Lads. Fuck lads.
Fuck lads. No, it's fantasy lad boys.
Fantasy lad boys.

Speaker 1 I have a very special. I told you, we just took our break.
We did an interview that will be airing in a couple weeks. And during that break, after the interview, we had dinner.

Speaker 1 And I came up with the Billy, go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Can't lose parlay of the week we got that in the app yes hopefully

Speaker 1 Vikings minus two and a half

Speaker 1 skin

Speaker 1 Raiders minus two and a half

Speaker 1 Colts

Speaker 1 money line Vikings minus two and a half Raiders minus two and a half Colts money line Packers money line you want to hear something crazy yeah I think you lose because the Jets win outright no

Speaker 1 yeah I think the Raiders are pissed they're due due. And this happened last year, I think, to the Raiders, where it's the end of a long season.

Speaker 1 You've been hearing John Gruden scream at you non-stop for about six months, and you hit a wall. You hit the Gruden wall.
Okay, so if that's.

Speaker 1 So do you want to... Should I change it? Because now you are on the hook.
No, I want you to keep going, but just know that I'm. What would you change it for?

Speaker 1 I'm going to be taking the chance to get it. What would you change it for? What would you change it for?

Speaker 1 What would you swap in? I think I would. Go ahead, Billy.
You can discuss on this, even even though it's a fuck your face, you piece of shit. No, you know what? No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 1 I want to help the AWLs win money. All right.

Speaker 1 I'll go Seahawks. Seahawks minus three.

Speaker 1 Seahawks minus three instead of Raiders. Yep.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, but you hate the Giants. That's true.

Speaker 1 I despise the Giants.

Speaker 1 I actually don't despise the Giants. Oh, yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 That's probably the tweet I get the most. It's like, hey, thanks for sticking up for the Giants because

Speaker 1 clear PFT despises. Well, I'm just saying, you are over here gassing up the Giants' defense when, by any measure,

Speaker 1 the football team's defense is better. They are very, very good.

Speaker 1 But it'd be like me saying, I don't hate the Packers. You don't hate the Packers.
I hate the Packers. You hate the Giants.
I don't hate the Giants.

Speaker 1 I think the Giants are a perfectly fine football team with a great quarterback this weekend, Colt McCoy.

Speaker 1 Don't rush Daniel Jones back. All right.
Well, now I have to change it. Well, I go Moneyline, Bills, Packers, Steelers.
He's now just reading his Berserker parlay. No, I'm not.
This isn't the parlay.

Speaker 1 I put closer games on the parlay.

Speaker 1 And then last but not least, I put

Speaker 1 Vikings, yeah. Okay, cool.
Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 1 It's going to hit. It is.
I like the confidence right there. Yeah.
Yeah, I do too. I feel

Speaker 1 like you're kind of a homer betting on your cousin. Yeah.
Your older brother, Kirk.

Speaker 1 Captain. Got a lot of people saying the family resemblance is strong between you two.

Speaker 1 Like, he's a mix between Billy Football and Daniel Tosh. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Probably the biggest bro of all.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. You look like Daniel Tosh.
No, I don't. Yeah.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 I draw a line there. You look like Daniel Tosh.
That's. I'm coming.
You look like Daniel Tosh was put in a microwave for 20 seconds.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's true. You look like there was a computer software script that was forced to watch 700 hours of mid-90s television.
Yeah. And you're like the no-good son of the family that came out.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? You look like Daniel Tosh when he, like, if there was a river next to a nuclear plant, you took a dip in there. And it's like, ooh, don't go in there.
And then you went in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, you look like if Daniel Tosh was in Madame Toussaux's wax museum. Yeah.
And they had

Speaker 1 like a weekend long

Speaker 1 air conditioning crisis. You know when they search for the worms at the bottom of the ocean? Anyway.
That's what you look like if it was mixed with the business. Okay, You guys like

Speaker 1 aren't the freshest. Whoa,

Speaker 1 oh, go on. I'm actually looking right now.
You don't look anything like Daniel Thompson.

Speaker 1 Anthony Jeselnick. A lot of people are like, oh, yeah, that's true.
My bad, dude. Yeah, it's the Jezmeister.
Yeah, I was wrong. You're a jizz face.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go. Fantasy.

Speaker 1 This is so everyone got our Spotify. We got our Spotify year and review numbers, whatever.
And our biggest increase, we increased 106% in the UK.

Speaker 1 Whoa. So

Speaker 1 shout out to the UKers.

Speaker 1 Before we start, God knows why. Shout out to everyone who said it to us.
Hank showed me these numbers yesterday. I don't even know if we're allowed to say it, but there was

Speaker 1 for Spotify, so obviously we're on Apple as well, but for Spotify, it was like 200,000 people had us as their number one podcast. That's fucking good.
Like the most listened podcast of their podcast.

Speaker 1 Thank you, guys. And then you had like however many listen on everything else.
Fuck, man. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 And then all the dead people that are getting subscribed to part of my take now after last episode. It's yes, it is.
It blows my mind every time that happens. So thank you.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Fad Lads? Fat Enric. Fantasy Lad Boys.

Speaker 1 Fucking UConn. Or the UK.
Hey, hey, I mate.

Speaker 1 Hey, mate.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Floyd, mate. I.
I'm just going to be off.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait.

Speaker 1 There's only one Connor McGregor, and there's nobody better. And he's going to knock out Floyd Mayweather.
So, Floyd, watch out. You can't start coming.
You talk all you want, but you'll do nothing.

Speaker 1 Hey, boys, alright, Matt, it's Tommy Fury. My starting this week is Chelsea.
Massive cheers, Tommy. Hey, Chelsea.

Speaker 1 The mates are gonna go get knocked on and throw a few quid on Steph for the line this weekend. Wanna give you a joint snog.
Chugging Fozzies all weekend with the boy gave himself.

Speaker 1 Nice sit him is Prince Harry. Oh, Harry.
Fuck it. Unroyal fuck.

Speaker 1 Get out of the the royal family in America.

Speaker 1 And my son.

Speaker 1 He's a bitty McDonald's, he is. Hey, cheery out.
Alright, Marsit. I'm trying to farm my accent still.
Michael Arto, who you want some help? My sit-in.

Speaker 1 It's weird. I wanna stand with you on a mountain.

Speaker 1 I wanna live with you in the scene.

Speaker 1 I wanna live like this forever, late.

Speaker 1 Until the skies go down on me.

Speaker 1 What a banger. Anyway, bangers and mash.
My sleeper is weed, bruv. We are not tested for weed in the MBA next year.
So JR Smith and the dealer wait is gonna be getting lit, mate.

Speaker 1 Bit of wacky tobacco streets in there. They're gonna be putting up big numbers off some big blondes, eh? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, this is Arthur fucking Shelby.

Speaker 1 I'm starting bloke, bloke bottles, innit? Bloke bottles is good, mate. Moat, mate, it's COVID-free.
He's in isolation. They got him cooped up.

Speaker 1 We can see him on the telly if everyone comes down with the black plague this weekend. Bloke Bottles.

Speaker 1 Bloke Bottles. I'm sitting the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Oi, these lads put up fewer points than Arsenal, innit?

Speaker 1 If I have to watch another 27-0 howler, I'm going to swallow an umbrella, mate.

Speaker 1 Fuck bike. Fuck Arsenal.
Arsenal, get out my fights. The gate channel says, we already know the mates are throwing a piece of quid on staff with the lines we can.
Oh, no, they throw it a pid.

Speaker 1 They throw me several quid, in fact. Several quid on

Speaker 1 the staff, but I've thrown

Speaker 1 all my quid behind.

Speaker 1 Come on, you ions. That's right.
Come on, you ions. I'm sleeping, John Wall.
That's right. I'm sleeping, John War.

Speaker 1 That's how you do everything state-style, eh? We're going to build around a wall, and Houston's going to pay for it. I understand how that works.

Speaker 1 And our nation's capital over there, the United States, the UX bats.

Speaker 1 For me personally big Russell Wilsbrook fan love it love it what up what up mates is George Harrison hi hello George my start home is Bronnie Bronnie gonna play with his dad is pop his pop pop pop pop his man's gonna be very happy about that one no his pop pop is John James senior no yeah senior in it in it in it

Speaker 1 my sit him is potting him they're at the start of the uh top of the table

Speaker 1 they got a few results They're frauds, they're frauds in my sleep. Get them off my pellet.
Nick Saber, he beaten the COVID, the Coco, twice. All right, Nick Sabin.
Hello, Governor.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. There's Ralph Frackman and my stardom.

Speaker 1 Sally get away.

Speaker 1 She knows it's too late as we're walking on by.

Speaker 1 Sally get away.

Speaker 1 Don't look back in anger. I heard you say

Speaker 1 right. Oh, my sitem is Meghan Markle.
She stole our howboy Harry from us. Royals, God save the queen, sleepers,

Speaker 1 tranquilizers. That's the tits, boys.
That's the tits, isn't it?

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
That's your whole thing. That's your whole thing.

Speaker 1 That's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 We are living in a yellow sun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the only one. There's a fire burning through my soul.
Waiting on us fever pisses.

Speaker 1 I don't know this one. Adele, right? Yellow sunlight.

Speaker 1 Thick girl. Out there in the hills.

Speaker 1 I fought for my meals.

Speaker 1 Right. Well, right, right, right, right.
That's who you know.

Speaker 1 Home, home. Right.
That's how much we care for lads back in

Speaker 1 the who. The UK.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Brexit.

Speaker 1 Fun thing.

Speaker 1 Brexit that, right? Fun thing about the who, Billy, is uh who is from America yeah who is state side right for who who

Speaker 1 English no no no no no what but you you got back to Ukrainian Billy I'm pretty sure the lead singer of the who is English wit a pitier

Speaker 1 as in American Wit A Pete speaks English whit a petia

Speaker 1 The sing-alongs of the lads were great. They were proper, proper sing-alongs.
Proper sing-alongs at the point. No, they're British, Billy.
They're British. Proper British.
Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 1 I was taking the piss. Good.
It was taking about zips.

Speaker 1 I was taking the piss. That's one of those things when people say I'm having a piss or like taking the piss, I never know what it means.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You said something on Super Trump today that took my breath away. What was it? I'm going to go have a brown.
Crank a brown. Yeah.
I've never heard someone say that. Vulgar.

Speaker 1 Very vulgar. I need to go crank a brown.

Speaker 1 Like, what? Is that poop? So the John Wall.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they talk about fingering frogs almost every day. That's true.
The John Wall Russell Westbrook trade was hilarious because it was a trade where I think both teams lost.

Speaker 1 It's essentially the status quo. It's like, oh, so the Wizards are now going to get the seventh seed.

Speaker 1 And I guess the Rockets, maybe if John Wall, but you still have to play with James Harden.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's John Wall, who's a ball-dominant point guard, going to play with James Harden, who he's going to hate. And then the Wizards in the East probably improved by like two positions.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're still going to get smoked in the first round. Yes.
So.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess the big news is like there's a team that was willing willing to pay john wall that much money yeah and i i also uh my other instant reaction from it was how long is it gonna take for you or for everyone to have the rockets make a deal and not be like oh great deal by maury because like initially it was like oh that's savvy by maury and i was like wait nope yeah this makes sense for all all the like weird cap numbers that mori like to play with no he's like he's seeing something

Speaker 1 we don't know yeah

Speaker 1 that's not more anymore so john wall the whole like gang sign thing for him came back in the news like two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 I think that was the wizard's front office trying to be like, this is why we want to trade him because he made gang signs like three years ago.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they were crip gang signs, right? Yes. Now he's rocking red all the time.
Oh, that'll be interesting. Yes.
Maybe you have to change the uniforms.

Speaker 1 Are these fake uniforms that are coming around now? I saw these new city. Is that the newest, newest city uniforms? Those are sick.
Because I just,

Speaker 1 NBA is the one league where I'm pretty sure someone in the league office is just like scrolling through Reddit at all times and be like, look at this fucking uniform. This is cool.

Speaker 1 Let's build an entire uniform based off of this. The Rockets ones, they came out with their ass.

Speaker 1 The blue ones?

Speaker 1 Oh. They're like themed after the Oilers jerseys, but they just look like Rockies.

Speaker 1 They're just New Jersey Roast NBA City jerseys. I mean, that's probably because they knew John Wall was coming, right?

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm doing quick, quick, quick off the cuff.

Speaker 1 Love the Hornets.

Speaker 1 The Bulls are just blah.

Speaker 1 They should spell the Rockets R-O-C-C-E-T. Yes.
Heat, awesome.

Speaker 1 Pelicans, eh? Orlando, cool. I like the Celtics ones.
San Antonio's might be the best. San Antonio's are fire.

Speaker 1 San Antonio, I'm in on San Antonio. Okay, so there you go.
That was the impromptu. Anyone got anything that they like? I'm looking at the jazz is pretty cool.
Yeah, the jazz is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, the valley. Yeah, they look like

Speaker 1 that's Denver? No, that's

Speaker 1 Sacramento. No, Utah's down below it.
So now we have three teams that look like the Nuggets. Yeah, Sacramento.
Okay, I like Sacramento then.

Speaker 1 Wait, is that Sacramento or is that Golden State? The Valley? They're not the Valley. I know, I don't know.
That's where they do porn. Right.
No, no, Sacktown is Sacramento. Who's the Valley?

Speaker 1 I think that's Utah. No, but Utah is right there.
This has been great. Sorry, everyone.
We're going to get to Brian Cranson in a minute.

Speaker 1 Then we have Trey Wingo.

Speaker 1 Alright, Jake, you get that. I'll do this ad.
We'll figure it out. I was going to say, the heat one looks like a gender reveal that can't make up its mind.
Ooh, nice. Get me the valley.

Speaker 1 Who's the valley? Oh, it's Houston. Oh, no, no, no, it's Phoenix.
Phoenix. Phoenix.
Okay, Phoenix.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Let's get to Brian Cranston. Awesome interview with Brian Cranston, best actor alive, maybe television actor.

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Okay, here he is, Brian Cranston.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is the man, the myth,

Speaker 1 the legend, Brian Cranston. He has a new show out December 6th.
That's Sunday,

Speaker 1 called Your Honor on Showtime, which I'm very excited for. I watched the trailer.
I'm excited for it.

Speaker 1 Thank you for giving us new TV in a time when a lot of us are sitting at home, not able to go out to the bars and everything. My first question was,

Speaker 1 It's been a while since we've seen you in a big-time TV show like this. Was that a

Speaker 1 conscious decision to take some time off so people aren't like, hey, there's the meth dealing guy?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hey, first of all, good to see you guys. I hope you and your families are well.
And boy, it is challenging times, no doubt.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 5 been anything but a boring year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But I'm kind of looking forward to boring.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 i uh you know a career is made of a lot of decisions and you when i was steeped in in walter white world and breaking bad and what that became i realized that you know it's it's that character became so iconic that um it's going to be hard to lose myself or have an audience feel that they could lose theirself looking at me in some other capacity.

Speaker 5 So I gave myself a moratorium of like three years. It was an arbitrary number.
I just said, I feel like I have to stay away from television for at least three years. And so I did that.

Speaker 5 I went off and I did some theater in Broadway and London and did some films. But for me, it's not necessarily the medium more than the story.

Speaker 5 If I'm compelled by what I read, if it touches my heart or makes me think or has importance in society or something, then I want want to be a part of it.

Speaker 5 And that could mean on stage, it could mean in a film, it could mean a TV show. And this happened to be a television show.

Speaker 1 Well, I read an article before this interview where you said, you know, in your business, sometimes people will get fatigued of actors or characters. I want to push back on that.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone's ever been fatigued of you.

Speaker 1 The world needs more of you. But it actually kind of worked that.

Speaker 1 That time you took off from being in a TV show, and then this pops up and you're like, oh, I'm very, very excited for this. Like, I'm pumped that we get to see Brian Cranson again.

Speaker 5 Good. Well, I'm glad you're saying that.
I hope everybody else says that too. But I mean, what really got me about this show, Your Honor, was the premise that

Speaker 5 it asks the question, what would you do

Speaker 5 to save the life of your child?

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 I don't know. Are you guys parents?

Speaker 1 I am. And

Speaker 1 if you asked me that, my son's 18 months. If you asked me that two years ago, I'd be like, I don't care.

Speaker 1 And then the minute you have a kid, you're like, oh my God, it sounds cliched, but literally everything has changed in my life.

Speaker 5 It really does. And you wear your heart on the outside.
And, you know, for guys, we take care of ourselves. We get married.

Speaker 1 We

Speaker 5 open up that circle, take care of our wives and be protective. And then you have children, and all of a sudden,

Speaker 5 wait till they go off to school, man. And you can't control situations.
And it's tough.

Speaker 5 And here's a situation where I have a 17-year-old son in the show, and he gets involved in a car accident, panics, and leaves the scene of the accident, which created a crime.

Speaker 5 But he's a sensitive kid. He did the wrong thing.
He tells me about it. I tell him that we need to do the right thing.
or your soul will forever be stained by this.

Speaker 5 So I tell him we're going to turn him into the police department and go through the judicial system and hope for the best. And that's tough enough.

Speaker 5 When I get to the police station, I discover that the kid

Speaker 5 who he hit, who died at the scene,

Speaker 5 his parents are grieving. They're at the police station as well.
And I find out that

Speaker 5 the guy, the father, is a notorious and extremely dangerous mob boss.

Speaker 5 So I know immediately that that guy is going to find my son and kill him.

Speaker 5 And so that's all it took for my character to make that impulsive decision to say, we're turning around, we're going home, we're not doing what I said we should do

Speaker 5 because everything changed, like you said, you know.

Speaker 1 Interesting. I like the notion of taking some time off to kind of reset and let the audience reset.

Speaker 1 It's funny because we were interviewing Matthew McConaughey about two weeks ago on this podcast, and he said that he had to do the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 Two of our generation's greatest actors, Matthew McConaughey and Brian Cranston, he had to just stop getting pictured outside shirtless so that he would no longer be receiving offers for rom-coms.

Speaker 1 You probably had to just, yeah, like no more pictures of you and your whitey tighties standing on a road. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's exactly right. Speaking of that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's like you got to draw the line somewhere or you forever be typecast.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, it's funny. It's that Matthew just sent me his book, Green Lights.
I'm looking forward to reading that.

Speaker 5 But that's what you have to do. And what he did did take a journal, try some other avenues of creativity that stimulates you.
And,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 if you're fortunate, which we have been, there's always avenues for you to go back and try something else.

Speaker 1 Can you tell when you run into somebody on the street and they recognize you, can you tell right away if they're going to know you as the dentist from Seinfeld, as Malcolm's dad, or Walter White?

Speaker 5 Usually by their age, I can tell, or the gender.

Speaker 5 If it's an older mom, it's like, oh, I bet that's a Malcolm thing there.

Speaker 5 In the city, in New York City, in

Speaker 5 more urban settings,

Speaker 5 older people know me as the dentist on Seinfeld.

Speaker 5 College kids or guys

Speaker 5 who are just starting out, your age, your generation, that's mostly Breaking Bad, I think, is that note?

Speaker 1 I think Breaking Bad, at least in my opinion, is I think it's the best television show of all time.

Speaker 1 And the character arc that you have when you're working on it, Walter White goes from the most mild mannered milk toast guy that you can ever imagine to obviously like a ruthless killer and a criminal mob boss, essentially.

Speaker 1 As you found yourself acting in that role over the course of those years, did you feel cooler?

Speaker 1 as as like year three and four happened you're like i don't have to play a nerd anymore i can like shave my head go around talking shit to people?

Speaker 5 It's really something,

Speaker 5 there is something innate in confidence.

Speaker 5 And I, you know, when I cast people in, as I direct and produce now too, so I'm also casting, when I see an actor come in filled with confidence, it gives me confidence that they can do what they say they can do.

Speaker 5 And I think that goes a long way.

Speaker 5 I try to tell high school and college kids, be bold, take a step out, look someone in the the eye have confidence in that if you see someone who walks into a room looking for a job and they're like um well i i

Speaker 5 maybe and i i don't know

Speaker 5 i i'm not winning of them you know i look at that and i go i'm not sure that i can trust that if they get on the set that they can do this job yeah so confidence is everything that's i mean we that's probably the compliment we get the most in terms of uh our sports opinions we have We are terrible with them.

Speaker 1 Our takes are terrible, but we say them confidently enough that people think we're right.

Speaker 1 Why do you think? Hang on.

Speaker 5 Hang on. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we're arrogant.

Speaker 1 All right, so here's an arrogance.

Speaker 1 Arrogance plays in sports. Yeah, here's an arrogance/slash-confident question.

Speaker 1 How big of an asterisk do we put next to the Dodgers World Series victory? Because it was only 60 games and it didn't really count.

Speaker 5 Shut up. Shut up.
That's an arrogant question.

Speaker 5 How about going back to 2017 and telling the houston asterisk that they they don't deserve that trophy yes yes how uh so you you obviously are a big dodgers fan uh are you a lakers fan as well has this been like you know i'm a homer i was born and raised in in los angeles so i'm i'm straight down the line for all the teams here you know the rams left me 20 years ago and then they came back and you know i i

Speaker 5 they they thought that they can just win me over right away like your girlfriend dumped you and then she comes back and tries to just pick up where they left off it's like hey not so fast I can smell St.

Speaker 5 Louis all over you yep so

Speaker 5 I'm kind of warming up to that although I also start to really like the New Orleans Saints in football because I spent so much time down there shooting the series and got to know Sean Payton and went to some of the games and it was it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 That team's really fun. I think they're going to do well this year.

Speaker 1 So, Your Honor, obviously, yeah, like you just said, takes place in New Orleans. How much New Orleans do we get? Because I love, you know, when you watch

Speaker 1 a show and like the wire is Baltimore or Breaking Bad, you know, you're in the middle of the desert. How much do we get of New Orleans? How much of New Orleans is a character in this show?

Speaker 5 You get it.

Speaker 5 We did this right. I think we gave it its prominence, and we're in the court system.
We're in the French corridor. We're along the Mississippi River.

Speaker 5 We're seeing the streetcars and the jazz and the second line marching during funerals. And I mean, it's the food.
It's such a passionate city.

Speaker 5 It was great to work down there. And it was a great backdrop for this story.

Speaker 1 Do you think that you're the best actor in television history?

Speaker 5 Do you think so?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say something with confidence. Yes.
No, no.

Speaker 1 I think you are.

Speaker 5 I honestly don't think in those terms. I have no idea.
I don't really care. I don't think that can be answered.
And it's not even important to answer it.

Speaker 5 I just do the work. I have a blue-collar background.

Speaker 5 You know, we didn't have money growing up. My parents split up.
We got kicked out of our house for foreclosed on. I had to live with my grandparents for a year.
It's just, so

Speaker 5 it was a tough, confusing kind of childhood. And you navigate your way through it.
And the thing that I took with me that

Speaker 5 always was in my back pocket is the ability to work and to shut up, keep your nose clean, do the work. And that's all I know how to do.
Some

Speaker 5 young actors will tell me, well,

Speaker 5 what do you attribute it to? And I go, I really don't know. I just keep working.

Speaker 5 So when it comes to awards and things like that, which I've had an abundance of given to me, which I'm very happy about but it's always come as a surprise just you know someone taps me on the shoulder I'm focused on the work and someone wants to honor me it's like oh

Speaker 5 that's great

Speaker 5 so you know that that's that's the basis of it

Speaker 5 I don't I just love to work I love to tell stories and

Speaker 5 I think it's one of the sweetest things about human beings is that whether you're two or a hundred and two, you always want to be told a story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, and always when I see somebody on TV, and if it's an actor or an actress, and they can cry on command, to me, that's just like a cheat code.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, they must be the best actor of all time. Like, I'll give you a specific scene.

Speaker 1 I think it was in Ozzy Mandius. It was the one where Hank got killed, right? Yeah.
I just love any series that kills anybody named Hank, just for the record. That's our producer's name.

Speaker 1 When he's killed, at the end, when you have that breakdown and kind of things become real, you start to bargain.

Speaker 1 You go through like all the stages of grief, essentially, within a 15-30-second time span.

Speaker 1 What's making you go through that? Do you actually get a little bit afraid in the moment?

Speaker 1 And then, secondly, how long does it take you to get back to zero and recover after shooting such an emotionally intense scene?

Speaker 5 Well, that's a good observation because it does cost you.

Speaker 5 Actors have to be willing to spend their capital emotionally. In order to be an effective actor,

Speaker 5 you do have to have talent. I don't want to dispute that.
You do.

Speaker 5 But you also have to have an insatiable curiosity to be able to do the research, to be able to use your imagination on things you can't find.

Speaker 5 The other thing is you have to be willing to open up the cavity of your life and say, okay,

Speaker 5 I'm going to appear in my underwear. I'm going to show that

Speaker 5 Walter White, when we first see him, was flabby and pasty and out of shape, and I'm going to show that. And as embarrassing as it may be for you personally, it's right for the character.

Speaker 5 So you have to go there and allow yourself to be exposed like that and potentially humiliated.

Speaker 5 But what's great about human beings is that when you get out of middle school, in middle school, when someone embarrasses themselves, everyone laughs with with them and laughs at them.

Speaker 5 You get out of college, when you're in college and later, you see someone publicly embarrassed or humiliated, that's the last thing you want to do because you don't want it to be you.

Speaker 5 So you emotionally or even physically put your arms around that person to protect them. And that's what draws in an audience.

Speaker 5 When they can relate to a person's flaws, when they're they're not perfect and they're trying.

Speaker 5 They go, that guy is me or that's you. I recognize that person.
And then you take them on that journey with you, and they trust you because you've shown them your vulnerability.

Speaker 5 I was in my underwear, and that's all.

Speaker 5 And those people are going, that poor bastard, man. And he's dying of cancer.
And, oh, my God.

Speaker 5 So I'm on board with you. And then you've got them.
Then you take them for a ride and you have a responsibility to fulfill that promise.

Speaker 1 And that's actually a great promo for your honor because, like you said, the vulnerability of a father being like, what would I do for my son?

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, like I said, I watched the trailer and I was like, I'm in. I'm all the way in.
Not just because mostly it's you, but also because of the story.

Speaker 1 Once you realize what it's about, you're like, damn, this is going to be great. Do you,

Speaker 1 did you think the fly episode was boring?

Speaker 5 No, I thought it was very unique.

Speaker 1 You're such a hipster.

Speaker 5 Hey, man. Did you think it was boring?

Speaker 1 No, I actually, I didn't think it was as bad as people said it was. Well, some people said it was.
It was obviously obviously very volatile. Some people said it was the greatest ever.
I just was like

Speaker 1 somewhere in between. It wasn't the greatest ever, and I wasn't totally bored to death, but I was like, all right, I'm ready for the next episode.

Speaker 5 It's so interesting to, I mean, Vince Gilligan is such a genius that he was able to say,

Speaker 5 okay, what if we just focus on

Speaker 5 the minutest

Speaker 5 element,

Speaker 5 the smallest thing around,

Speaker 5 and he becomes obsessed with that. In this case, a fly.
And so this little fly in

Speaker 5 Walter White's kind of damaged mind actually starts to believe could ruin his whole enterprise, could damage the credibility and

Speaker 5 the quality of the cook. So he's got to get this fly.

Speaker 5 And it created anguish. anxiety with the with the viewers because we kept it so small.

Speaker 5 You're constantly waiting for the story to open up and it just never does.

Speaker 1 And you're just like, oh, God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I guess it was mission accomplished because it was beloved and also hated.

Speaker 1 And I feel like that's, you can't have a better compliment than to be like, well, I elicited ultimate emotion on both sides from this episode. That's right.

Speaker 5 Like you guys, what you were talking about earlier. Do you want to go through life not taking a stand? Do you want to be reserved in your opinions and not? No, right or wrong, here's what I feel.

Speaker 5 You don't have to agree with me, but this is what I feel and what I think. And whether that's making a prediction in sports or politics or religion or whatever you, this is what I stand for.
And

Speaker 5 you can be respected for that. You're not always going to be

Speaker 5 revered for that or loved, but you will be respected.

Speaker 1 Well, how about you make a prediction on the Rams over or under half a Super Bowl for Sean McVay during his time in Los Angeles?

Speaker 5 Well, God, he's already been there.

Speaker 5 He didn't, you mean a Super Bowl victory?

Speaker 1 A Super Bowl victory, yes. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 5 I think,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 this team is kind of frustrating because it takes a few steps forward and a couple steps back. Like last week's game was just like,

Speaker 5 what are you doing?

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 perhaps it was a good loss. Perhaps Goff has matured and realized certain things that he will need to learn if he's going to be an elite quarterback.
So let me say this. Let me say that he will,

Speaker 5 that the Rams will pull it together. And I would say

Speaker 5 75% yes, that McVay's stay in Los Angeles will produce a Super Bowl victory.

Speaker 1 This is kind of a weird question about sports and celebrity. I feel like when people become A-listers, they just don't really care about sports the same way.

Speaker 1 Or they maybe, you know, they got so much stuff going on. They're A-listers.
So they're not like, hey, I'm going to sit on a couch for an entire Sunday and watch all this football.

Speaker 1 Has that happened to you? Or are you, do you still like, hey, if my team's on, I'm going to watch them?

Speaker 5 The latter.

Speaker 5 When I was a kid, man, I watched everything. I would even listen to hockey games.
on my transistor radio. I mean, I loved it.

Speaker 5 Unheard of. But yeah, I just don't have the time.
Who's got the time? Once you have kids and a wife and a house and it's like, ah, you're juggling so much. You just, you know,

Speaker 5 the demands of life.

Speaker 5 But I try to catch the teams, you know, that I root for as much as possible and

Speaker 5 stay in tune with it. You know, like you said, I'm a real big baseball fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And,

Speaker 5 boy, for the Dodgers to win this year was a real treat.

Speaker 1 When you were watching that last game, were you like, what what the hell is going on? Why are they taking Blake Snell out?

Speaker 1 Like, you obviously were excited that they were taking him from the game, but what were your emotions going through those last three roller coaster innings?

Speaker 5 I thought,

Speaker 5 finally,

Speaker 5 if you get that guy out, in fact, I think the Dodgers should pick that guy up.

Speaker 5 They're talking about possibly trading him.

Speaker 5 I think he's a gamer. That guy is tough to beat.

Speaker 5 Former Cy Young winner. I couldn't understand why they took him out.
I mean, he gave up like two hits, and it was like re-anked him immediately. And I thought, whoa.

Speaker 5 So that's going to be debated for quite a long time.

Speaker 5 I think Cash

Speaker 5 is going to face a lot of criticism for that for years to come.

Speaker 1 Are you a numbers guy, like a Sabre metrics matter guy?

Speaker 1 Because I know that it can be justified in theory going back and looking at the trends when he gives up a certain number of hits after he's going through the lineup twice.

Speaker 1 But then there's also the other side where it's like, this is your Cy Young guy. This is the guy that got you here.

Speaker 1 Let him keep pitching. Which side of the debate would you find yourself on?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 as an actor, you are innately an emotional person. You are in tuned with your gut, with your, how does something feel? What's your sensibility about something?

Speaker 5 So it's totally not numbers, not the business end of it. And, you know, he gives up X amount of ground balls.
And so the next pitch should be such and such. And

Speaker 5 I think he went with the numbers and didn't go with his gut. And you saw, I mean, Blake's now, no pitcher really should want to come out unless they injure themselves and realize

Speaker 5 I'm done.

Speaker 5 But he wasn't close to being done.

Speaker 5 So I couldn't understand, but I rejoiced.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. I had one last question.
Brian Cranston, Your Honor is coming out Showtime on Sunday night. Very, very excited.
Episode one,

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All right. So we do a little thing.
People also ask.

Speaker 1 So if you ever go on Google and it's like, you know, this is what, how tall is this person?

Speaker 1 So one of the people also asked, so this isn't us asking, this is the people, is simply, is Brian Cranston a nice guy?

Speaker 1 And the answer is, as an A-lister as they may be, Cranston has been known to be gracious, complimentary, and full of respect for those who came before him and those who will come after him.

Speaker 1 So it seems like you're a nice guy. Is that acting? Are you acting nice?

Speaker 5 You know, fuck off. I don't need to answer that.

Speaker 1 I think you're acting nice. I think that's how good of an actor you are.
You're actually an asshole, and then you're acting nice. And then people also ask on Google and boom.

Speaker 1 But no, seriously, it's actually rare, I feel like, for A-listers to be like, oh, he's also a nice guy. So good job, acting there.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 I learned how to behave very early on.

Speaker 5 An old friend is Tom Hanks, and I worked with him several times when he was producing and directing and writing.

Speaker 5 And I saw how he handled himself on the set. doing work, being respectful.

Speaker 5 And the actors that I've worked with, who I emulate and respect

Speaker 5 are also those showed respect to others. And

Speaker 5 be kind,

Speaker 5 be happy, be lucky that we're working as an actor. I always remind myself of that.
Every time I step onto a set, it's like, this is the greatest. Look at what I get to do for a living.

Speaker 1 It's insane.

Speaker 5 So why wouldn't you be happy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm not sure if you know this. Actually, you probably do know this.
But in 2006, I wrote a movie about a high school dropout that makes and sells meth with his high school chemistry teacher.

Speaker 1 So you've probably, I don't know if you spent any time in Richmond, Virginia, where it aired for the first time, or if Vince was around.

Speaker 1 But if you truly are a nice guy, like the internet says, I feel like 5%, 6% of residuals would be a fair thing to share with me. I don't know.
Maybe you can tell me what's industry standard here.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 I think you're just froze.

Speaker 5 I don't think I didn't quite hear

Speaker 1 10%.

Speaker 1 10%.

Speaker 1 Okay, I heard you say 10%. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the history behind that is

Speaker 1 I didn't watch Breaking Bad for like the first two seasons because I was mad. Because I wanted to make a full-length movie out of it.
Then I started to watch it.

Speaker 1 I was like, God damn it, this is the best show I've ever watched. I guess I can't be mad anymore.
So you turned me. So anybody out there that hasn't checked it out, go watch Breaking Bad.
Watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a little show. Yeah, it's a little show called Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1 But also, feel free to send me a check, Brian, next time you get one in the mail. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm glad that you wrote that. And, you know, like what a common practice in Hollywood is for writers to write spec scripts.

Speaker 5 You know, and so you write something that you think would sell, and you can actually get a job off that script. Whether or not that script ever gets produced is second, is not as important.

Speaker 1 Right, right. That was a nice guy answer.
Very nice guy answer.

Speaker 1 God damn it. All right, Brian Cranston, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it. Everyone, go watch your honor.
Very excited for this show and appreciate it a lot, man.

Speaker 5 Thanks, brother. All right.
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Speaker 4 And now, Trey Wingo. And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 All right, we now welcome on our good friend, Trey Wingo. He's got a new podcast.
He is now a former ESPNer. Although maybe you are an ESPN guy for life.
Trey Wingo presents Half-Forgotten History.

Speaker 1 New podcast. First episode was on Wednesday.
No, Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Wednesday. Wednesday.

Speaker 1 The new episode is out today as you're listening to this. Who's on this episode today?

Speaker 4 This will be the, first of all, it's always good to talk to you guys, and it's good to see you in Zoom as opposed to just over the phone. Yes.

Speaker 4 Where we're stepping up of a relationship, which I feel good about.

Speaker 4 But yeah, next episode comes out today. It'll be Darren Woodson, the leading tackler in the history of the Dallas Cowboys, three-time Super Bowl champ.

Speaker 5 And someone just walked right in front of the camera.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was Jake. So half-forgotten history,

Speaker 1 I would assume you guys are now going to be going through something that we've half-forgotten or maybe full forgotten. Is this a play on you smoking too much weed and having no memory?

Speaker 4 No, it's a play on me having too many cocktails and smoking too much memory.

Speaker 4 And by the way, we should say we're presented by Makers Mark, State Farm, and McDonald's, so it all works.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 4 But the whole premise of the show was like

Speaker 4 some of the best conversations I ever had working with these guys or and talking to other people in the NFL was not in front of a microphone, in front of a camera.

Speaker 4 We'd go out to dinner, we'd be in the green room, we'd be somewhere having a cocktail, you know, when you could do that. And the stories they would tell were ridiculous.

Speaker 4 And I was like, people need to hear these stories. So that's the whole premise of the show because if we don't get those things out now, they may be forgotten in time.

Speaker 4 And we're going to do it with a glass in our hand. We'll have a good time.

Speaker 1 I love it. That sounds great.

Speaker 1 So, a little free tip now that you're in the podcast game,

Speaker 1 let's get you in the news tray.

Speaker 1 Because either way, we're going to to market this interview as being like, Trey Wingo spills all about the salacious things going on behind the scenes at ESPN while he was there.

Speaker 1 Then you'll get more downloads. That's how the game is played.

Speaker 1 Who was the guy who never flushed correctly at ESPN? Now that you're gone, you can see that.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 first of all,

Speaker 4 that would

Speaker 4 mean that I would actually watch someone while they were in there doing the flushing, which I just chose not to do. So I can't answer that question.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 You you can tell a boomer like if you go in the stall and you're like yep yep that's uh that's chris i will tell you a chris berman bathroom story though it's a good one please okay you ready yeah it's not it's not what you're thinking but like it was like my second day there and i was walking in and boom was in there uh washing his hands and i'd met him once when i was in st louis and i just said hey chris you know it's trey wingo i'm new here i met you in st louis like he goes oh yeah you were the guy that told me to try the cheddar smokies in the bush uh bush stadium uh press box uh dinner room he remembered what hot dog i told him to eat which I thought was the most boomer thing ever, but it was very cool.

Speaker 4 And it just happened to happen in a bathroom.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 All right, so I did read an article. You talked about leaving ESPN.
You said you have no ill will towards anybody at ESPN.

Speaker 1 Zero. Hypothetically speaking, though,

Speaker 1 so you have no ill will, zero ill will.

Speaker 4 None.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what about liking some people more than others? So if you had to rank who you like the least, this is an ill will.

Speaker 1 Who do you like the least at ESPN?

Speaker 1 We need to turn the tables. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, this is this is not ill will. This is just, well, look, that's

Speaker 4 going through all

Speaker 4 5,000 employees or what am I doing?

Speaker 1 I mean, how do you want me to do this?

Speaker 4 All right, listen, because I think he can take a joke, Tim Hasselveck sucked. He was

Speaker 1 no, I'm kidding. No.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying of all my good friends, Tim would be somewhere there.

Speaker 4 Look, you asked for a name, I gave you a name.

Speaker 1 Whoever you name there, actually, I always assume is the coolest. Whenever you say, like, who do you like the least?

Speaker 1 And then the name that comes out, it's like, oh, that guy actually can take a little, you know, ball busting. So, are you texting Timmy Hasselbach right now?

Speaker 4 I am. I'm just letting him know that this was, you just were the sacrificial lamb, and I love you.
All right, so

Speaker 1 let's actually talk for real, though. What, what did happen? Uh, did you want to stay? How did it all kind of break down?

Speaker 4 Yeah, very, very simple. I mean, it was, you know, I explained it in

Speaker 4 the article. Look, I knew pretty soon after, they asked me me to come do the radio show, and I said, Sure, happy, happy to do it for you.

Speaker 4 Um, and I knew pretty early into it that it probably wasn't going to be a thing I wanted to do long term. So,

Speaker 4 about a year and a half into it, which would have been May or June of 2019, we went to them and said, Look,

Speaker 4 I just, we're trying to be as honest with you as we can. When this radio contract is up, it's probably not something I'm going to want to do again.

Speaker 4 I just want to let you guys know because I don't want to leave you guys hanging. I thought I was being a really good employee.

Speaker 4 I didn't want them to like, I didn't want to hold that back and then say, well, if like a month to go, yeah, I'm not doing this again. And then they're scrambling and whatever.

Speaker 4 So I tried to be as honest with them as I could. And we said in like May or June of 2019, probably not going to want to do this again.
We'd like to go back to doing something else.

Speaker 4 Cause I love the old job, NFL Live, doing the draft, Hall of Fame. And that was awesome for me.
I, I, it was the most fun I've ever had.

Speaker 4 And, you know.

Speaker 4 We were having conversations in February and then things took a dramatic twist right after the NFL draft, which I thought was odd because I thought that went went okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, under the circumstances, you did a very good job. I think we even held up our end of the bargain and tweeted a stepbrother's gift.
You did. And I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 It was a shit show during the draft, and we didn't know what to expect. But all things considered, I mean, you played.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say you played Traffic Cop very well because I know that you enjoy the reefer a little bit, and that's probably a big knock against you if I were to say that. All right, let's just,

Speaker 4 again, this is something that you guys have promulgated since Super Bowl 51. And I enjoy being the butt of the joke, but let's just be like,

Speaker 1 butt of the joke.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey. Dude, your name's Trey and

Speaker 1 you go on the golf course all day.

Speaker 1 Okay, right, right. Trey Wingo doesn't blame.
Wait,

Speaker 1 so everything happens. So you're saying like February after the draft, did ESPN then say like, hey, you're not coming.
you're not coming back, but you're going to be here for the next six months?

Speaker 1 Or was it the door was still open? You were talking about it?

Speaker 4 It was made pretty clear

Speaker 4 right after that, like in May or May or early June, that things were not going to go well.

Speaker 4 That's their choice. My choice was I wanted to do something else besides a radio show.
And I want to be clear about this. I had nothing to do with Golak or Golak Jr.
or anybody people to work with.

Speaker 4 And if you can see what they've said, we all had a blast. It was great.
It just wasn't what I wanted to do. It just wasn't how I wanted to continue doing things.
That's all. It was just that simple.

Speaker 4 I just wanted to do some of the other things that I had been doing and I enjoyed.

Speaker 1 Was it a problem that future you kind of created? And after, you know, realizing, man, this is really early. I don't like waking up this early.
After a couple months, you're like,

Speaker 1 not something I want to stay doing for the rest of my life, you know, getting up at four o'clock or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 No, that, listen, I'm completely honest with you. The guys that can do that are the people that can do it, the men and women that can do it, they have my ultimate respect because it wrecked me.

Speaker 4 Like, it is much easier for me to stay up till three than get up at three. That's just the way I'm wired.

Speaker 4 And and i've been doing it i was doing it that way 20 plus years and i tried to flip it it was hard i mean it was really hard for me like golak is a freaking monster he can do it and it's not a thing but he's like a like a cat he can sleep anywhere you know like you sit him down for two seconds he falls asleep i i i'm not blessed with that gift so that was a part of it for me it really was i just it that was the that was a really hard part of it for me was trying to flip to that schedule because it messes you up and anybody that says it doesn't is pretending yeah because it's hard so So

Speaker 1 I actually, I mean, I respect the hell out of you to go to them and be like, hey, this is what I want to do. I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1 There's got to be a small part of you that sees the silver lining in this that you've reached a point in your career where you can actually do that because I'm sure 15 years ago, Trey Wingo can't walk into ESPN management and be like, hey, I don't want to do this anymore.

Speaker 1 You know, you're probably building your career. You have to say yes to everything.
Were you surprised, though, at all that ESPN wasn't like, okay, Trey's been here for a really long time.

Speaker 1 Let's find something else that he can do. Maybe it's not

Speaker 1 full, full time, or maybe it's not, you know, every single day, but let's find something. He's someone valuable enough to keep around.
Were you surprised that didn't happen?

Speaker 4 Yeah, two things there.

Speaker 4 If this was going to happen to me, it happened at the perfect time. As you said, I've been there 23 years.
I don't have to worry about my kids' college education. That's taken care of.

Speaker 4 They're on their way. So

Speaker 4 if it was going to happen, it happened at a great time for me.

Speaker 4 But yeah, look, I thought I did a decent job, you know, and I thought that the people that responded on Twitter when it was my last day were my coworkers.

Speaker 4 They seemed to think I did a good job. So yeah, I was a little surprised.
But look, again, that's their decision. They can do whatever they want.
It's their company.

Speaker 5 They can run any way they want.

Speaker 4 My decision was I wanted to do something besides the radio, and I had to be accepting and deal with whatever was the fallout of that.

Speaker 4 decision that I made because that was the decision that I needed to make.

Speaker 1 And so what does the ideal day for Trey Wingo look like moving forward? Now that you get to sleep in a little bit, you're doing the podcast. Like what's your next move?

Speaker 4 Well, we got a couple of things going, which I can't talk about right now, but

Speaker 4 things are happening rather quickly.

Speaker 1 Softcore.

Speaker 1 What was that? Softcore? No, I was just guessing. Softcore.
No, no, no. Well,

Speaker 4 if I'm going that way, I'm going.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're going all the way in. Wholehead.
If you're going to do that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, there's no reason to just sort of dip in the water there.

Speaker 4 But look.

Speaker 4 We'll have some decisions on that in the next couple of weeks, I would imagine. But at this point, I'm really liking the podcast.
I'm liking that part of it. It's fun.

Speaker 4 I get to do it from my basement bar, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 4 And we'll see what happens. Look,

Speaker 4 I'm thankful and grateful to be in a position where I can have a little time to make a decision and figure out what I think is best.

Speaker 1 Okay, we play this game with everyone.

Speaker 1 We name something, and then you give us just your instant reaction, what you think of, just boom, this is what I think of when I hear this name. You ready? You want to play? All right.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm in. All right, Mike Morrison.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Burke Magnus.

Speaker 4 Oh, Burke's great guy.

Speaker 1 I played golf with him a lot. Jimmy Petaro.

Speaker 4 Never had a bad conversation with Jim Petaro.

Speaker 1 Norby Williamson.

Speaker 5 Play golf with him here, too.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Trog Keller.

Speaker 4 Trog was the one that wanted me to come do radio.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What's Bill i mean i i i i repeat i appreciate what you're where you're going i was reading the espn directory of of uh upper management word association but now these people are going to listen and they're going to hear you saying nice things about them because whenever someone's like oh they mentioned you you got to go listen and we actually do

Speaker 1 listen we've had our issues with the spn we have friends there you're one of them you know scott van pel we have a bunch of friends there rachel nichols it goes goes down the list but burke magnus always deserves a shout out because he's the one guy who had our back he is the one guy who had our back.

Speaker 4 Burke was great. I've known Burke forever, like forever, forever.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 he's good. So, how far down in this list could I go before you start trashing people?

Speaker 4 Who's I won't trash anybody?

Speaker 1 You can see that. Robert Temple, you're not going to do it.
Robert Temple, you want to work with him?

Speaker 4 I honestly don't even know who that is.

Speaker 1 Bill Geist. Oh, wait, yeah.
What about Bill Geist? Bill Geist. Billy.

Speaker 4 Billy Man. G-Man.
Billy.

Speaker 1 Billy Two-Shoes.

Speaker 1 Lori Orlando?

Speaker 4 Oh. Lori Orlando has not been there for a while.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm reading this.

Speaker 1 So you can tell

Speaker 1 Stephanie Druly.

Speaker 4 This is like a 2012 list. Stephanie Druly.
Stephanie Druly is one of the reasons I got on the NFL

Speaker 1 gig at ESPN.

Speaker 4 She started out as a PA and is now an executive vice president.

Speaker 1 We'll just frame this entire conversation as Trey Wingo names names. Yeah, you named all the names.

Speaker 1 Big name name.

Speaker 4 Now, to be fair, to be fair, I did say people's names.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not saying that you name names

Speaker 1 come out of my mouth. Name names.
Are you going to move out of Connecticut?

Speaker 5 Maybe.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 we like it here, which I know isn't strange.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 we're both right out there is where they usually roam when they come out.

Speaker 1 Are you concerned that if a bear actually shows up at your door, no one's going to believe you?

Speaker 4 Yes. Well, no, because we've already been through that.

Speaker 1 We've already been through that experience. What do you mean if a bear actually shows up?

Speaker 1 Are you concerned that

Speaker 1 your star

Speaker 1 is fading now that you're just a lowly podcaster? So the bears are going to be like, I don't even care about this guy. He's not on Sports Center or NFL Live.

Speaker 4 I think the Bears come for the food.

Speaker 1 I don't think they,

Speaker 4 I don't think they have, I don't think they have premium cable.

Speaker 1 I'm assuming certainly I'd assume with a podcaster's salary, the food probably isn't going to be as good

Speaker 1 in your trash. The Bears have been letting Big Track down for years.

Speaker 4 I'm just telling you, our sponsors have been great.

Speaker 1 That's all I'm saying. That's great to hear.
Who at ESPN gets a private jet?

Speaker 4 I don't know the answer to that, having never flown on one.

Speaker 1 You've flown on a private jet.

Speaker 4 TV timeout. TV timeout.
I have never flown on one for ESPN.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Follow-up question to PFT's question. Who on ESPN demands a private jet and then

Speaker 1 probably over-leveraged their negotiations?

Speaker 4 I have absolutely no idea.

Speaker 1 Who was that? Who was that? Who was it, Paquette? No, I actually... Oh, Trent Tilford.
Oh, it's Trent Tilford. Elite 11.
Elite 11 football game. Was it?

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 Is that true? I literally have never heard that before.

Speaker 1 The story goes that Herb Street, you know, he would have to fly sometimes from college game day to whatever game he was announcing that night.

Speaker 1 Trent Dilfer thought that Kirk Herbstreet had his own private jet as part of his contract that ESPN gave him, like

Speaker 1 Air Force Kirk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Air Force Herbie? Yeah, Air Force Herb. And then Trent Dilfer was like, well, I want Air Force Dilf if you're going to give that to Herb Street.
And ESPN was like, I'm not.

Speaker 4 I have never heard that story. It might be true.
I have have no idea.

Speaker 1 I have never heard that story.

Speaker 1 I hope that it's true because it's a very funny thing. It sounds like

Speaker 4 it would be fun if it was true.

Speaker 4 I think Herbie and Fowler, when he was doing game day two, they did have to hop a jet, but I have no idea about the other part.

Speaker 1 Of course they did. That always

Speaker 1 makes perfect sense. They're in North Dakota, and then they got to call a game in Oregon.
Tuscaloosa. Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 1 So if you won't name who your least favorite person was, I know you just tossed name out there, but it's not Hassle. Can you say who's your favorite Golik?

Speaker 1 Including the Pugs? Well,

Speaker 4 if we're including the Pugs, it's not, it's, I mean, it's over, right? I mean, Pugs win in life. So if we're including, it's the easiest out for me to say, yes, the Pugs, Hank and Harry.

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah.
Okay, excluding the Pugs. You're right.
I gave you two easy of an out on.

Speaker 5 No, no.

Speaker 4 I followed your parameters. So I did exactly what you asked.

Speaker 1 How much better of a golfer are you going to become in your retirement?

Speaker 4 Well, I'm not retired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 4 In a few weeks, we'll have a different discussion about that.

Speaker 4 But look, I don't know if I'm ever going to get any better, but I just enjoy it. Like,

Speaker 4 that's the simplest way to describe it.

Speaker 4 I'm at a maddening number, which is about a nine, which means, like, you know, half the time I hit the shot I want to hit.

Speaker 4 But the other half, you think you should hit it all the time, and it's frustrating as hell.

Speaker 1 Are you a stickler for rules? Are you a golf snob?

Speaker 4 No, no. Look, I mean, if I'm playing in a tournament, obviously, but I'm not one of those guys that's like, oh, you moved your ball an inch.
I claim the hole and I win by seven. No, it's not.

Speaker 4 I'm out there to have fun.

Speaker 1 I'm out there to have fun. So I assume that you have to be staying up to date on all the NFL news, on sports news, whatever.
Actually, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 I don't know what your next gig is going to be. But assuming that's going to be in sports at some level, you have to be staying up to date.

Speaker 1 Have you found yourself listening to ESPN radio or watching ESPN programming to kind of like stay in the conversation and see what people are talking about?

Speaker 4 Absolutely. I mean, you know,

Speaker 4 I follow every, I watch every game. I mean, I sit down like I like I have for the last 18, 20 years.
I watch every game on Sunday.

Speaker 4 I watch every game on Monday, game on Thursday, even the game on Wednesday yesterday at 3.4. Now, I'm sorry.
Look, I get the Christmas tree lighting is a big deal, right? I understand that.

Speaker 4 But the game rating would have dwarfed that. Why didn't they just put that on NBC and moved over the tree lighting to like MSNBC or something? Then it's a big win for both

Speaker 1 both stations. You a big war on Christmas guy, Trey? You got a problem with Christmas tree? You're not going to be Christmas trees.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 4 we have a Christmas tree up in the house already. So that's not a war on Christmas.
I'm just thinking it was a win-win.

Speaker 1 They should schedule more Christmas tree lightings for after NFL games because I guess there's a huge audience out there that I didn't even know about that will tune in to watch a Christmas tree get plugged in.

Speaker 1 So they should just be a little bit more. And the funny thing was,

Speaker 4 and the funny thing was, this was like the year where everyone was making fun of the tree, right? Yeah. Like they thought it was like a Charlie Brown tree.

Speaker 4 And that Charlie Brown tree said, don't make fun of me. Your little football game is going to go on at three o'clock in the afternoon against Jeopardy Reaper.

Speaker 1 Yes. Move that football game.

Speaker 1 So you, is it felt different, though, like being able to watch the games and knowing, like Monday night football, you can watch the game and I don't have to get up in the morning and talk about this.

Speaker 1 That must be a little, that must be a little nice.

Speaker 4 Listen, yeah, that was a thing. Like, I hated not being able to see a lot of the end of the games.

Speaker 4 I didn't like that. You know, if I'm going to talk about it, I want to be able to see it and actually consume it.
So, yeah, I

Speaker 4 enjoy much more the ability to see the entire game and look at it that way, as opposed to like, okay, what I miss in the third quarter or what I miss in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 I didn't like doing that. How would you do that? How do you do that in early radio? Do you show up and someone's got like a sheet or someone's got the highlights package? How does that work?

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. You know, you stay up as late as you can.
Like, if it was a Super Bowl or a championship game, I would do it, but it's, it was hard to stay up.

Speaker 4 You know, the games finished, you know, 11.30, 12 sometimes. National championship games even ran even later.
So, you know, it was, it was a, it was a dogfight to do that.

Speaker 4 So you get there a little earlier and go through the highlight packages and talk to people.

Speaker 1 But I.

Speaker 4 I liked what I like experiencing the games. I like watching the games.
And, you know, they're a communal thing, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, one of the funnest things about football games is everybody's on Twitter watching the same thing at the same time and sort of going back and forth. I enjoyed that part of it.

Speaker 4 I enjoyed that part of it a lot. And that was hard doing the other shift.

Speaker 1 Yeah. During your time off, as you're preparing to announce your retirement, maybe this could be a good opportunity for you to like.

Speaker 4 So, to be clear, what you're saying is in your time off to announce your future time off.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Which would be a great press conference to have.
Got it. Have you considering like reinventing Trey Wingo?

Speaker 1 Like, for example, you could show up doing the Colin Coward thing where you've got jet black hair coming back, and then everyone's like, oh, yeah, there's Trey. Yeah, that's the 35-year-old.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 I'm going to stop doing that. I think maybe a redhead.
Maybe you could become a ginger. Maybe a ginger? Yeah.
You could pull off a ginger look. You could be like old Ronald Weasley.

Speaker 1 I was thinking that you could do just like update yourself on the movies.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying, you know, come fully into the year 2020, but you could start making forgetting Sarah Marshall references and things from like the late 20 oughts and early 20 teens. Maybe just

Speaker 1 as opposed to, you know, like the standard anchorman stepbrother, which we all love.

Speaker 1 But maybe just, you know, take three or four years step forward.

Speaker 4 Never was it, I mean, like, Step Brothers was not a movie I think I quoted a ton. Anchorman, obviously, you got me there.
There's no question about that.

Speaker 4 But yeah, we can move up to forgetting Sarah Marshall.

Speaker 1 That's easy. I feel like that's a good middle ground.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a good starting point.

Speaker 1 Who are the big guests you got coming up on your new podcast?

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 like I said, we just did Kurt Warner. Darren Woodson is going to be coming up

Speaker 4 on Friday or today when this is coming out.

Speaker 1 That's a a big guess.

Speaker 4 Okay, Hall of Famers.

Speaker 1 Got a couple Hall of Famers.

Speaker 4 Does that count?

Speaker 1 Darren Woodson is a good one. That's a big guess.
Darren Woodson is a good guy. Darren Woodson.

Speaker 4 Emmett Smith, Jim Kelly.

Speaker 4 Victor Cruz is going to talk about the boat photo in ways you've never heard before.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. I like that.

Speaker 1 They have the worst record in football since that boat.

Speaker 4 I believe the way I described it to him. I said, Victor, I don't know if you know, but technically I've looked up, and since the boat photo, the Giants record is ass.
Is that your fault?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, it is.
I would ask it. Yes, yes.
That boat photo changed everything. Everything for them.
So

Speaker 1 it wasn't great. It was not great.
Football question for you.

Speaker 1 Who do you have winning the NFC East?

Speaker 4 Anyone, honestly, at this point. I still think the Eagles tie against the Bengals may give them the decider when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 you think the Eagles are going to win that division?

Speaker 4 You can't count on anyone, and they have a half win. So at the end of the day, a half win is better than a full loss.
I mean, I'm just playing math at this point because everybody sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's true.
Yeah. I mean, it's so wait.
All right. So who do you have in your...
You should have known. So everything

Speaker 1 falls apart, but you know that you're not going to stick around at ESPN after the draft.

Speaker 1 You should have done like the craziest predictions on the radio show knowing that you wouldn't have to be held to it.

Speaker 1 That was amazing.

Speaker 1 No, that was amiss. That was a miss.

Speaker 4 It's not something I was interested in. But listen, again, there was a lot of crap going on during that time.

Speaker 4 We were trying to navigate through some serious stuff that was happening in sports, around sports, in the country. So

Speaker 4 we weren't doing wild takes. We did try one thing, though.
We tried something about like, what was the wildest sports take you ever heard?

Speaker 4 And someone came up with this incredible thing about why Lyman Bostock was assassinated.

Speaker 1 And we're like, okay, we need to move. Yes.
We're just actually now

Speaker 1 interested.

Speaker 1 I want to hear more about this. How about this? Google.
Roger Goodell has never suspended the I-5 serial killer, Randall Woodfield, who was a practice squad tight end on the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 That's a serial podcast. Why?

Speaker 4 That's a serial podcast right there. I think the I-5, the I-5 practice squad killer.

Speaker 4 That's a great title.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think he killed like 50 people, actually.
That's a perfect one for half-forgotten history. Yeah, it's true.
It's mostly forgotten history.

Speaker 4 Because I totally forgot it. So that was good.

Speaker 4 That'll be on season two, totally forgotten history.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Um, all right, I had one last question, Trey.
So, retirement, yeah, congrats on everything.

Speaker 1 Uh, unbelievable, not retired, not retiring. Did you get did you were you like so? 23 years of the SPN, were you like two years away from a watch or something?

Speaker 1 Was there something that you missed out on? That's like, damn.

Speaker 4 Well, there's a couple, like, they give you trophies for like every five-year increments. Like, five-year I think was Mickey, 10-year was

Speaker 4 Simba. 15-year was Mufasa.
I can't remember what I got for 20. I don't know.
Maybe at 25, I would have gotten

Speaker 4 Mr. Incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Mr. Incredible, maybe, I would have gotten for the 25 anniversary.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's why you got fired.

Speaker 4 Because I did, I didn't figure out.

Speaker 1 Because they were like, well, we're looking at the budgets, and we can't afford this fucking

Speaker 1 coming up for

Speaker 1 the 15 months, yeah. The Mickey watch, where his hands point to the different numbers.
By the way, you didn't get fired. You mutually parted ways.

Speaker 1 That was supposed to be a joke, but it fell flat because I feel like that might have hurt your feelings.

Speaker 4 I was going to let you. It's totally good.

Speaker 1 No, no, you didn't sell it.

Speaker 1 It hurt your feelings.

Speaker 4 I'm not there because they chose to not bring me back. So that kind of counts.
I mean, that kind of counts.

Speaker 1 You're not fired in my heart. It was mutual.

Speaker 1 You mutually didn't want to wake up at 3 o'clock every morning. I cannot blame you for that.
That I can confirm. I would not want to do that either.

Speaker 1 But earlier in the interview, I jokingly referred to you as a traffic cop because I feel like that's what everybody, like that's the standard line in the industry when they're talking about Trey Wingo.

Speaker 1 Like he is the best traffic cop that you'll ever get to host an NFL show. Did you get sick of that, of that label and be like, hey, I'm so much more than a traffic cop?

Speaker 4 No, because look, look, one of the things I loved about doing the NFL stuff was I didn't care about my opinion. I wanted to hear their opinions.

Speaker 4 And the only thing I thought my job was when they said something interesting or they said something stupid, which I was happy to point out, that was dumb.

Speaker 4 I wanted to have factual information to say why I thought that was really important or why it was really dumb. I mean, people should tune in to hear what they had to say.

Speaker 4 My job was to get the best out of them. That's what I enjoyed about the whole gig.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that weird going from being someone who's more of a facilitator and trying to get the best out of whoever it is you're interviewing to all of a sudden you're on the radio and you're expected to, you know, bring your own opinions on everything?

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I don't mind having opinions, but my opinions are always going to be based on something.
Like I told them when I started, I'm not going to be a hot taker.

Speaker 4 It's just not like, oh, well, I think this because of this. No, I just, that's not the way I want to operate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I always appreciate your honesty because there is certain people in the industry that love to just takes for takes and going viral or having everyone talk about their take is more important than being right or telling the truth.

Speaker 4 And if they want to do that, good for them. It's just not the way I wanted to do it.

Speaker 1 That's just not the way I wanted to do it. All right.
So everyone, go download right now. Stop what you're doing.
Go download Trey's new podcast.

Speaker 1 He has new things coming out that he can't talk about right now. Are you going to join the Skip Bayless show? Are you going to debate Skip Bayless? Give us a hint.
Are you going to be on TV?

Speaker 1 I'll kick the coverage. Yeah, what are you doing? Give us a hint.
Oh,

Speaker 1 winking.

Speaker 4 You'll see me. I can promise you that.

Speaker 1 And you will hear me. Okay.
See and hear. Okay.
Are you going to get arrested? Ooh, God. No.
Cops.

Speaker 1 I hope not.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, listen, I could. I mean, that's always a possibility.
That's true. It depends on all the weed I'm smoking out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right. Getting all those bears high.

Speaker 1 But yes, go. Hungriest bears in the neighborhood.

Speaker 4 They don't move as fast that way, so it's actually a smart choice.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. But yeah, go listen, half-forgotten history,

Speaker 1 and look forward to everything that's coming up, right? Correct.

Speaker 4 And we're presented by State Farm, not in retirement, Makers Market, McDonald's, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, wherever you want to put it.

Speaker 1 That's great. You got the whole evening planned out with those sponsors.
You got the liquor, then you got the food, and then you got the insurance for after you got. So we're covered.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're covered in case anything goes terribly wrong.

Speaker 1 Perfect. All right, Trey.
Well, thank you very much, man. It was fun talking to you.
Good luck with everything. Good luck, guys.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Good luck, brother. We'll talk to you soon.
All right. Cheers, Trey.

Speaker 1 See you, man.

Speaker 4 See you guys.

Speaker 1 All right. So we're off.
So

Speaker 1 who is it?

Speaker 1 What name should we name?

Speaker 4 See ya.

Speaker 1 Fuck damn.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Firefest of the week.
We got, that's it, and numbers. Great week.
Rounding up into Christmas week.

Speaker 1 Everyone's got a nice little Christmas jolly

Speaker 1 feel, don't they? You know what? Christmas music hits a little bit different this year. Yeah, it does, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 I think we're all looking for some positive music going on. Do you know what I like to do?

Speaker 1 Do you know what I like to do? This can sound really lame, but

Speaker 1 I'm not a big SNL watcher. I kind of like to watch SNL in December just because you get to see the tree.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It just feels

Speaker 1 like a December activity.

Speaker 1 I'll watch live SNL this week, and I'll be like, huh, cozy. This is all based around the fact that we've seen snow falling on our score bugs on Fox on Sunday.
It just doesn't snow in New York anymore.

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't. Well, I guess I shouldn't say anymore because it hasn't since the four years I've lived here, but it just doesn't snow here.

Speaker 1 First year it did, and we had gray snow until April piled up on the street.

Speaker 1 That's true. The rats.
Rats were very cold global warming am I right

Speaker 1 Hank I'm going in the spirit of giving I'm going to give my fire fest slot of the week to our darling Jake Marsh because I think his he's got a more you know what I'll get a more

Speaker 1 we'll add Jake's so why don't you do yours okay you sure yeah we'll add Jake's I'll make sure Jake gets his mine's not even a fire fest well you got roasted by the internet you got dragged Okay,

Speaker 1 so what?

Speaker 1 Oh my god, is this Billy and Jake teaming up?

Speaker 1 Alright, my firefest of the week is that as the commissioner of stool streams, I need to figure out how to discipline two players who may or may not be sitting in this room for breaking all the rules and never wearing their jerseys to games.

Speaker 1 Well, I've lost it. And I don't really know how to do that.

Speaker 1 I wore something better than my jersey to the game, which is the shirt that I'm wearing right now, which is Clown Missioner Clown Hank Lockwood, the clown.

Speaker 1 I don't...

Speaker 1 I lost it. What do you want me to do? And also next year, get me black, so it's slimming.
But I also also lost it. All right.
You guys are going to get fine, though. Just put that on the record.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah? How much? TBD. All right.
I never signed anything. I'll give you my wallet right now.
Oh! Oh, yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 I've been doing that a lot recently, bringing that back, just taking the middle finger out of my pocket. It always gets people.
People are always like, damn. He's got a present for me.

Speaker 1 Didn't see that one coming. No.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your Fire Fest. My Fire Fest of the week is that I...

Speaker 1 I care about the Washington football. Oh, yeah, you do.
I care about it. Dude, I've known this for three weeks now.

Speaker 1 But I officially care, and I think that they're going to beat the Steelers on Monday. You texted us on Thanksgiving saying the Washington football team is going to win the division.

Speaker 1 And then we all were like, I don't know, man. I officially care.

Speaker 1 I was talking to our guys in DVE in Pittsburgh this morning. And I was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 you get to play us.

Speaker 1 At least you have us coming off a short week. We never win on Mondays.
And they were like, no, you're going to beat us.

Speaker 1 They talked me into it.

Speaker 1 And now I'm like, I'm full in, and I think that the football team is going to win the division at 6-10, maybe even 7-9.

Speaker 1 I think that we're going to win a home playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals. I'm calling my shot right now.

Speaker 1 And it's a vulnerable position that I haven't found myself in in a long time. And honestly, it terrifies me a little bit.
Yeah, no, I could see this coming for a few weeks now.

Speaker 1 I could tell you were sensing it. You were feeling it the way you're talking about the Giants.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like the Giants.
No, you don't. You don't like the Giants.
It's okay not to like the Giants.

Speaker 1 Mine actually is related to that. I, and people are going to be like, oh, sick brag, but the Steelers aren't going to win the Super Bowl.
Correct.

Speaker 1 I want them to because I've, for once in my entire life, I got like the best line on a future. And I'm sitting here.
It's the Steelers to win the Super Bowl 55 to 1.

Speaker 1 And I'm sitting here watching them go 11-0 and being like, well, it doesn't really matter. Right.
What's the line at right now? I don't know. Like, probably like...
Seven? Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 And so it's the one time I've ever been sharp in my life, and the team is undefeated. And in the back of my head, I'm like, no chance.
0% chance.

Speaker 1 But to be fair, most of that zero chance is coming from the fact that they have to play the Chiefs. Right.
Right. Right.
One team. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Think about it. Anything could happen.
Like, a team could come out out of nowhere. I could see the Titans maybe beating the Chiefs.
But it's a fire fest because I should be so happy.

Speaker 1 I should be like, 11-0, this is sick. And deep down, I'm like, nah, it doesn't really matter.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 One time, I'm sharp. It's crazy what our brains do to us.
Yeah. If I had the Chiefs at that, I would be fucking...
I would have already spent the money.

Speaker 1 I would have bought someone to come and dispose of Billy's body.

Speaker 1 I would have hired a hitman for you. Is that your firefest?

Speaker 1 Is that your firefest? Yeah. Go ahead, Billy.
I don't know. I'm just exhausted.

Speaker 1 You're tired? No, I just like finals. Yeah, you got finals.
How are your finals going? Let's see. I mean, now it's just like, I have a presentation tomorrow.
I didn't really plan for that.

Speaker 1 Give us a preview. It's

Speaker 1 imagination.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like. Anyway, it's like policy stuff.
Anyway, that I need policy stuff.

Speaker 1 What is policy stuff? I have a policy proposal presentation. Oh, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 It's actually very current. What is it? Okay.

Speaker 1 Why are you planning? Why you shouldn't put me on a list for voting for Trump? No, it's.

Speaker 1 Dude, it's a.

Speaker 1 You got a mandatory vaccination.

Speaker 1 No, legit.

Speaker 1 How the vaccines are one long con to put a chip in your brain. No, it's actually on a pandemic response proposal for the future.
Taking masks off people's faces and throwing them into the future.

Speaker 1 No, it's actually about PPE

Speaker 1 distribution and

Speaker 1 planning. Anyway, it's actually

Speaker 1 send the National Guard to every city. C-.

Speaker 1 Inject them with the coronavirus vaccine.

Speaker 1 I need the company card to borrow to get money for a tow hitch. That's your fire pillar.
What about this? Why don't you invent

Speaker 1 need a synthetic

Speaker 1 card a synthetic bat meat server i'll take it you said people don't have the fine bats anymore can have the fine money billy

Speaker 1 because it's for vanny woodhead to move vanny woodhead i need to

Speaker 1 get towitch i will give you the company card when you give me a plan for how you're going to get my name off the title so i have to stop i can stop paying for it literally just going to chop up the van but that doesn't rectify just tell the insurance company that it's been destroyed you but you're not going to chop it up because you're going to you already said you're going to work on it so

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to move it. Chop it up.
I'm going to have a van.

Speaker 1 Billy's going to take it to his house. He's going to work on it.
He's going to pay someone to get it fixed. I'm going to have it in my name.

Speaker 1 And then in six months, Billy's going to be driving Vanny Woodhead around and getting an accident. It's going to come down on me.
Or he's going to chop it up. See the figure.
And then shit.

Speaker 1 Absolutely like a year from now, you're going to get something in the mail being like, oh, you owe taxes on your van. Correct.
And you're like, I don't have a van. You figure it out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to figure it out because you're going to have to go. Your dog ate my title, you idiot.
I just need the fucking towing. Moron.
Anyway. Your dog ate my title.
Yes, he did. That's.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I thought your firefighters was going to be that you talked way too much on Wednesday's episodes. Oh.
You know what? Dude.

Speaker 1 I have like

Speaker 1 seven different people

Speaker 1 who want so much from me right now. I don't.

Speaker 1 Including my. Actually, I feel really bad for my.
How many are we? Are we three or one? No, you're two, three.

Speaker 1 Like, PFT wants me to put together proposed, like, something about Bryson DeShambo's nipples. And then we got to do it.
Yeah, I gave you a great idea

Speaker 1 presentation. I know, I know he sounds really rich complaining about this kind of thing.
Did you play Jenga? I'm just really. No, it's fine.
A lot of juggling. Billy, just dream.

Speaker 1 I take back my Fire Fest. My Fire Fest is that.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry for me.

Speaker 1 No, my Fire Fest is that I have in my possession right now the one employee in America who could write the funniest, most comprehensive review of Bryson DeCambo's nipples indicating steroid use in the entire world.

Speaker 1 I know. And he won't do it.
I'm doing it. I'm in the process, but it's just like a lot.
He's juggling. He's brainstorming.
He's juggling a lot. He's mostly in the conceptualizing part of the process.

Speaker 1 Billy comes home from Christmas break and everyone's like, Billy, how you doing? He's like, oh my God. My boss is up my head.
It's so stressful. No, dude, I'm just continually.

Speaker 1 I'm just like biting stuff. I've got a huge report too.

Speaker 1 I have a report tomorrow. I'm going to be up to like 3 a.m.
tonight.

Speaker 1 So when we finish the show, you guys ever get home from a hard day's work and your boss is so far up your ass that you want to beat your meat?

Speaker 1 Number A, we love you, Billy. Number A, we fucking love you, dude.
You know that. We love you.
I love you, Billy.

Speaker 1 One of these days,

Speaker 1 you'll make enough money to afford shoelaces.

Speaker 1 We're going to get it this time.

Speaker 1 I feel it, boys. I feel like someone is going to get it.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 I provide a seven. I'm a seven, night.
If I get 69, I'm teabagging one of you. Eight.

Speaker 1 47.

Speaker 1 Pro, stop being muggy. It's going to be seven.

Speaker 5 Just straight up.

Speaker 1 What'd you say, Liam? I love that Hank.

Speaker 1 Naughty Fall. Went to a British slang website.
Picked up a bunch of people. No, I just searched.
Oh, I used to watch Love Island. Oh, my God.
No, it's 69. It's 69.
T-Bag run!

Speaker 1 69! We got it!

Speaker 1 You got it!

Speaker 1 No, shit, it's 96. Oh, no.
Damn it. Sorry, Billy.
No, it's 6'9.

Speaker 1 69.

Speaker 1 Wait, who do you have to teabag? He said, Somebody. Somebody's getting teabagged? Billy, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 Yo, Billy, we're not leaving this room. I said it right before.
We're not leaving this room until he's in the business. I told you someone was going to get it this time.

Speaker 1 Hold it up. Yo, damn.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 the biggest AWL out there. If you think you're the biggest AWL, present yourself at the office tomorrow so Billy can teabag you.
See everyone on Monday.

Speaker 1 What's funny is, like, Billy just went from being like, I had the hardest, longest week of work ever, to like, he pulled 6ix9ine, and now work is awesome.

Speaker 1 He also broke my computer.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 You're not talking into a mic right now. And Billy, you also know it's an animal fact, Billy.

Speaker 1 Animal fact. Oh, animal fact.
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Pigeon

Speaker 1 can't. No, squirrels can't throw up.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm gonna say or say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today is another day to find you. Shy it away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of free.

Speaker 1 Shy it away

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of free.

Speaker 1 Come on

Speaker 1 Needless to say,

Speaker 1 I'll set in.

Speaker 1 But we still

Speaker 1 let away.

Speaker 1 Still in the life is okay.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe than something.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe than something.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me off.

Speaker 1 Take on me all

Speaker 1 Earth,

Speaker 1 and