NFL Week 12 Recap, Deion Sanders, Fastest 2 Minutes

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Speaker 8 On today's part of my take,

Speaker 8 we have week 12. Week 12 recap.
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Speaker 8 Today is Monday, November 30th, week

Speaker 8 12.

Speaker 8 We start in Indy, where the Hennessy Titans were sipping the A.J. Brown liquor, taking shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shots.
Everybody, downfield all day.

Speaker 8 Derek Moranis finally fought back, punching Indy in the mouth while familyman Philip Rivers said, honey, I spunked the kids. T, why you gotta be so rude?

Speaker 8 Hilton flashed some magic with a one-hit wonder in the end zone, but the Colts got their aircraft carrier dome sunk, and in the famous words of our dear friend Chris Berman, Frank Reich yelled to Mike Rabo, Rodrigo, you sunk my blanket ship.

Speaker 8 Titans 45, Colts 26. What? What?

Speaker 8 And Minnesota, where Vikings kick returner went from Verge to Chad as BB BB muffed a kick in the fourth, only to come back with a game-winning touchdown.

Speaker 8 Mike Zemmer was listening to old school fireside chats to prepare for the return of Bridgewater, because the last time a leader could use a walker, Teddy's Cousins was on the radio. Robbie Mr.

Speaker 8 Anderson and DJ Morpheus may tricks us into thinking the Panthers are good, but they lost by the one to the Vikings. Vikings 28, the Panthers 27.

Speaker 8 In Windy Buffalo, a combined six turnovers between the Chargers and Bills had the ball being tossed around like an Instagram model in a son's hotel room.

Speaker 8 But in this instance, the last tall ball players could not finish with inches to go.

Speaker 8 Shout out, Billy. Anthony Lynn's sanity has the brain of a syphilitic woodpecker, and Joey Bossa Nostra worked closely with the Bills mafia to put a hit out on the Chargers' head coach.
Hey, Anthony,

Speaker 8 why don't you go down and grab a dress down there? Yeah, yeah, keep walking right down there. Rayan, go grab, go, go check out that dress, Anthony.
Go, go, go.

Speaker 8 And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 27, Charger 17.
What? What?

Speaker 8 In Cincinnati, where Bruce Wayne,

Speaker 8 ran for 94 yards in a touchdown against the hapless Bengals. Brandon Ray Allen had the Bengals getting there.

Speaker 8 Picture them going back and forth between a win and a loss, and also between his dick and his tongue.

Speaker 8 ATT Higgins dropped a reception, but Eva Laura Ingram and Joe Judge Janine Pirro outfoxed the Bengals defense as the Giants played conservatively and they head in the right direction.

Speaker 8 The New York Football Giants 19, the Bengals suffocate.

Speaker 8 In Foxborough, where Jonathan Alex Jones was re-litigating the 2008 election of his true Patriots versus an alleged Kenyon as Drake had 78 yards and two scores.

Speaker 8 Even though Kai, Lori, Laughlin, Murray had a full house to throw to

Speaker 8 for U.S. to see.
The Cardinals struggled to gain admission to the end zone. Nick folklore swiftly saved the last great American dynasty as the Patriots are still in the hunt.
Patriots 20.

Speaker 8 Cardinals 17. What?

Speaker 8 Some spread. In Jacksonville, where let me be the last to wish you a happy Thanksgiving.
Carvis Landry took one look at Mike Glenn and the turkey and said, hey, Clark, save the neck for me.

Speaker 8 Nick, you can find me in the chub. You can have two quarterbacks, but I'll have the 50 cent.

Speaker 8 Many men tried to stop the Cleveland running rushing game, but that when that worked, Baker Mayfield took them to the Landry shop. Cleveland 27.
The drive was 25.

Speaker 8 In New Jersey, where the NFL honored Ryan Fitzpatrick and Joe Flacco's exhausted wives during the last month of Salute to Cervix Month, the Jets' hyperdrive gave them a 3-0 lead in the first quarter and then took the rest of the day off.

Speaker 8 In true New York fashion, Devonta, hey, I'm pocket over here, worked all afternoon in traffic.

Speaker 8 Xavi and Ron Howard continued their happy days, delivering a hillbilly elegy to the coastal elites of the New York Jets. Dolphins, 20.
Jets, three.

Speaker 8 They scored three. Three points.
Hyperdrive. Three points, buddy.

Speaker 8 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola. Such a fine sight to see.

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Speaker 8 Saints go marching 31-3.

Speaker 8 And in Tampa Bay, where Patrick Starred and Travis Keenan and Kelsey were all that as the Chiefs slime the Bucs, Tom Brady Anderson may need a little extra help to finish off this season as the Bucs lose three of their last four.

Speaker 8 Andy Creed said, I can take you higher as the Chiefs are starting to peak at the right time and Mahomes keeps dropping balls to his receivers with arms wide open. The Chiefs win 27.

Speaker 8 We finish in LA as Jared Goffis Depot supplied Jared Mother Kinlaw, the football, who took it for a surprise visit to the end zone.

Speaker 8 LA and Cam Akirsti Alley waited and watched as the 49ers in Debo Samuel Jackson played with Nick Furry Mullins looked unbreakable as they gave the Rams a shaft.

Speaker 8 It's not going to be a Hollywood ending in Los Angeles as Aaron Sorkin Donald might have blown up a few plays, but the Rams fall down a game in the NFC West Wing. The Niners hold off the Rams 23-20.

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Speaker 8 Okay, week 12 in the books, as we are taping this, the Bears are on national television. They're down 34 to 10.

Speaker 8 Same story, different year. They fucking suck.
The Packers have embarrassed them yet again on national television.

Speaker 8 I don't really know what else to say. Mitch didn't look.

Speaker 8 If you take out the fumble and the two picks, Mitch looked pretty good. The two fumbles.

Speaker 8 Well, no, he, no, he picked that back up.

Speaker 10 And there was also a face mask.

Speaker 8 He picked up the other one. The other fumble.

Speaker 10 There was one and a half fumbles, two picks. They look like a competenter offense.
I don't want to say competent, but they,

Speaker 10 I don't know, there's something about Mitch. I think maybe it's just the fact that he looks alive when he plays quarterback.

Speaker 8 He can run.

Speaker 10 Nick Foles, when he's back there, sometimes he just looks like a corpse. So they appear to be slightly better, but still, I mean, you guys got dog walk tonight.

Speaker 8 I just dogwalk.

Speaker 8 I don't want to rag on Mitch because, again, he did look more alive than Nick Foles.

Speaker 8 So the offense had a little spunk, and I say that even though we got our asses fucking kicked and the Packers did what they always do to us and just fucking punk us.

Speaker 10 Well, what about Matt Nege saying that he is taking off play calling so he can spend more time around other groups on the sideline?

Speaker 10 Is that him trying to like insert himself into the good parts of the football team? I don't know.

Speaker 8 He's just trying to talk. He's trying to get everyone to be like, hey, he's walking up to everyone being like, hey, at the exit interview, you're going to say I did a good job?

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 8 So you're going to say you like me?

Speaker 10 I think what he's doing, and I think he's doing it futilely, is trying to become the Dan Quinn of this year, where he tries to get the team to go to batfield.

Speaker 8 No problem in this season. I mean, the Bears will do whatever the good, what's the Murphy's Law? Whatever can go wrong will go wrong.

Speaker 10 Alive and dead at the same time. Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 8 Whatever the right decision is, the Bears will do the opposite.

Speaker 10 I think Murphy's Law is just whatever the Bears would do. That's what happened.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's just the worst possible thing. So the only two things I had about Mitch.
One,

Speaker 8 and again, I'm not ragging on Mitch because he was, I mean, the defense sucks now. Akeem Hicks, I've told you a million times, most important player.
He didn't play tonight.

Speaker 8 Mitch, you're in your four, dude. When you get outside the pocket, you can't get a penalty for throwing it away.

Speaker 8 Okay, so Mitch, a very Mitch thing to do is just get outside the pocket and run out of bounds four-yard loss. Yeah.
Still doing that.

Speaker 8 Two, I don't know what we got to do, but it's so bears to have Mitch, like, I don't think I've seen one person in the age of COVID sitting on the sideline with the like 30-cent disposable mask that you get at CVS.

Speaker 8 Yet Mitch has it. We couldn't even get him a fucking team logo mask.
That's what the Bears are doing.

Speaker 10 He bought it himself and brought it up.

Speaker 8 It's a fucking joke. This team, this franchise is a joke.
The Packers kicked our ass. I still

Speaker 8 fuck the Packers, but they kicked our ass. But fuck them.
And I can't wait for them to lose because David Montgomery ripped off.

Speaker 8 Dude, David Montgomery ripped off a run that the Bears haven't had that type of run in like five years. So you guys basically lost this game.

Speaker 10 So right now, David Montgomery has six carries for 73 yards.

Speaker 8 Yeah, the Packers lost. If I went just on David Montgomery,

Speaker 8 you know, and his ability to run when the Bears have not been able to run all year, all like the last two years, the Packers lost this game. If you just go off that, which is what I'm going to go off.

Speaker 8 Okay. Fair?

Speaker 10 Aaron Rodgers. Also, you held him to only 172 yards pass.
Well, it's only this.

Speaker 8 That's a win. So this could easily get way.
That's again, this will get way worse.

Speaker 10 You know what just occurred to me? So there are certain elements of Mitchell Trubisky's game where he looks like a slightly worse version of Carson Wentz.

Speaker 10 I think maybe it's like their build, their stature, how they run around like a chicken with their head cut off in the backfield when a play breaks down.

Speaker 10 Would you want a Carson Wentz on the Bears team?

Speaker 8 Dude, I don't know. I don't even want...
I don't... I'd be cool.
I think the Bears is not playing football anymore.

Speaker 10 Just implode the team?

Speaker 8 No, I want them to exist, but I just... Maybe take one year off.
Take one year off, give everyone a break, at least get us off of primetime television.

Speaker 8 I think I speak for America when I say the Bears playing in one of the primetime slots needs to end.

Speaker 8 Next year, when the schedule comes out, you give us that fucking one Thursday game early in the season, the Jacksonville Jaguars rule. Give us that Thursday game and then be done with it.

Speaker 8 No more Bears in primetime. Don't give us a fucking Monday night.
Well, I don't think you have to worry about it.

Speaker 8 No, they still will. I think the NFL will learn that.
They still will, dude. You'll get one.
We're coming off a terrible year. Last year, we had like five this year.
They're still going to do it.

Speaker 8 They're going to do it because they want to punish us.

Speaker 10 I think Goodell knows better than to do that.

Speaker 8 It's a joke. Get us off Fucking national television.
This franchise sucks. I still hate the Packers.
They suck too. They gave up that run to David Montgomery.
So I'm going to, you know what?

Speaker 8 Which would you rather have? A Super Bowl trophy or a 50-yard run that David Montgomery ripped off in the first quarter of a game. They're going to lose by like 35.

Speaker 10 A soft team that can't stop David Montgomery. I personally.

Speaker 8 Everyone stops David Montgomery.

Speaker 10 I would rather have David Montgomery on it.

Speaker 8 Everyone stops David Montgomery and the Packers couldn't. So you do the math.

Speaker 8 All right. Well, we'll update as this gets way worse.
I'm sure it will.

Speaker 8 Because Aaron Rodgers loves running it up on the Bears.

Speaker 8 All right, let's get into week 12.

Speaker 10 Are we going to see Jordan Love's situation?

Speaker 8 Maybe. We could.
Maybe. Maybe.

Speaker 10 It's fitting for Chicago.

Speaker 8 Maybe. Maybe Tyler Bray gets in.
It is crazy, though, watching this game and seeing, like, Mitch hasn't played great, but how, if you're Matt Nagy, like,

Speaker 8 how are you not starting him?

Speaker 8 And this isn't a knock on Nick Foles. It's just that Nick Foles, without an offensive line, Nick Foles is a dinosaur.
You can't have a quarterback like that. Mitch can at least not run.

Speaker 10 Yes, you're not waiting for Nick Foles to take the next step. Nick Foles took the next step, and then he took promptly a step directly backwards after that.
He won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 That was the next step. That's the end of the discussion of

Speaker 8 the final step.

Speaker 10 How good can this guy get? And we know that he regressed back to exactly what he's been.

Speaker 10 So nobody was watching the Bears this season thinking like, okay, next game, I think Foles is going to figure it out in this offense and he'll look more comfortable.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 10 With Mitch, you might get like a couple splash plays in a game.

Speaker 8 Jake, can you look up a stat for me real quick? Oh, they got Mitch a better mask. How long was that? They did? Nice.
How long was that David Montgomery run in the first quarter?

Speaker 10 Can you look that up a cat? It was 57 yards, Big Cat.

Speaker 8 That run was 57 yards? Gashed him for 57 yards.

Speaker 10 Absolutely gashed him. Suck it.

Speaker 8 Suck it.

Speaker 10 That should be one of the things that

Speaker 10 was, Big Cat. If it comes down to it and it's like it's you and some other team in the NFC West, did they give up over 50 yards in a single play to David Montgomery? Nope.
Well, guess what?

Speaker 10 You're getting an over.

Speaker 8 When you walk into like facilities, team facilities, we've been to a bunch in college. They always have

Speaker 8 a video board that plays highlights and they'll have the trophies.

Speaker 8 When you walk into Hallis Hall, from now, from here on forward, it should be the 85 Bears trophy and then on repeat, David Montgomery's 57-yard run in the first quarter of a game that the Bears end up losing by like

Speaker 8 wow. Dude, the Packers,

Speaker 8 are you talking about this? The Packers side, they lost this game. If you want to call it man-to-man, like they lost this game and they know they lost this game.

Speaker 10 Are you talking about the run?

Speaker 8 The run. Yeah, the run.
Exactly. No run.
You can ever forget. There wasn't even a touchdown.
No, no, it didn't even.

Speaker 8 It was right up the middle.

Speaker 10 Like, if you look at a football field, where are all the players? They're usually in the middle of the field. That's where David went on the run.

Speaker 8 Someone remake that for me tomorrow morning. When I wake up, I want to have that run with the Rudy music.

Speaker 8 It's the longest play from scrimmage for the Bears since the 70-yard touchdown from Tariq Cohen in 2018. Dude, and the Packers gave this up.
Like I said, the Packers suck. This is a win for the Bears.

Speaker 8 I'm feeling good about this game. Since Jordan Howard's 69-yard run in 2016.
Yeah, the run. This is the run.
Where were you for the run?

Speaker 8 I was sitting right in this seat. Yeah.
And then they got to feel the same sports history.

Speaker 10 I was walking into the kitchen, and I saw it on the TVs that were set up in the football cave here. And I literally said, the Bears are going to win this game after that run.

Speaker 8 That's how impressive it was.

Speaker 10 Turns out I was wrong about half of that, but I don't regret feeling that.

Speaker 8 When the run happened, I was sitting in my seat, and I didn't get out of my seat, but I thought about it. And then I fired off a tweet: this offense is explosive.

Speaker 8 You can actually go see the timestamp if you're wondering, where were you during the run? Yeah, that I was tweeting, this offense is explosive. So the run.
That's how you felt. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And that's what people can go away from this game.

Speaker 10 Feelings can never be wrong. Nope.
No run. Feel what you feel.

Speaker 8 People will be talking about the run for years and years and years. And guess what they won't be talking about?

Speaker 10 The Bears getting dogwalked.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Or Aaron Rodgers, you know, oh, he's so good.
No, the run. You got run on.

Speaker 8 All right, let's get into the rest of the games. Titans, Colts, speaking of run on, holy shit.
So it is officially Tractor Cedo season.

Speaker 8 I have some stats for you. These are always fun.
The Derrick Henry stats that pop up when it gets to late November, early December are the fucking best. So he went 27 for 178 yards, three touchdowns.

Speaker 8 In the first half,

Speaker 8 the Titans had 449 yards. Now, I'll throw it out there for Colts fans.
DeForest Buckner was on the COVID list, but this is Tractor Cedo season.

Speaker 8 If you're not familiar with Tractor Cedo season, Derrick Henry's a beast later in the year. So weeks one through 11, 4.37 yards per carry, 22 touchdowns.
That's 50 games. 50 games, 22 touchdowns.

Speaker 8 Weeks 12 on, 5.61 yards per carry, so 1.3 yards more.

Speaker 8 23 games. 25 touchdowns.
23 games, 25 touchdowns versus 50 games, 22 touchdowns.

Speaker 10 it's pretty impressive it's fucking tractor sito no one wants to hit him when it gets cold outside yeah you ever take a soccer ball to the ear when it's cold outside same thing like

Speaker 10 tackle tractor sito he's a flower that blooms in the wintertime he's i mean he runs extremely violently and this it's not just us who like notice this no no of course everyone does he looks like he looks like a night and day different player in uh weeks it was like a couple weeks ago this season that it started yeah a little bit early this year but it's night and day compared to like weeks two and three three.

Speaker 10 Besides that one stiff arm that he had on Josh Norman, who weighs like 150 pounds early in the season, he wasn't running.

Speaker 10 He didn't put anything on tape that looked as just like spectacularly violent as he's been the last two weeks.

Speaker 8 Also, so

Speaker 8 we watch all the games here in the office. We have six TVs.
We have direct TV. So we set it up.
We have five games in Red Zone going on. Fuck you, Andrew Ciceliano.
I don't mean that, but I do.

Speaker 8 And there was a moment where, so we had the Colts Titans game on. And there was a moment where, so red zone's on

Speaker 8 Derrick Henry's scoring a touchdown on red zone on one TV on the Titans and Colts live on on one TV and they were showing replays of his other of his other touchdown on two other TVs so there were four out of six TVs were just Derrick Henry being a beast which I wasn't complaining about at all that's and that's how good he is is like he was just hogging all of the TVs just being a monster in that first half like that was an absolute ass kicking and I don't know i don't know the bear the packers just scored again but they didn't guess what it was like a 20 yard run not a 57 yard run uh i don't know what to make of the titans because when they look like this it's like they're a very confusing team titans and the raiders i would say yeah titans and the raiders are my two most confusing teams by far in the nfl right now and guess what i kind of you kind of know what the colts are and the colts i think who got someone got hurt on the colts offensive lineup

Speaker 8 which is big big deal especially philip rivers He can't move.

Speaker 10 Cannot move. And they're slowly benching Phillip Rivers.
That's the only thing I can think of. They're benching him gradually.
It used to be just for Hail Marys. Then it was Hail Marys and QB Sneaks.

Speaker 10 Then it was Hail Marys, QB Sneaks, and any time that they might want to run a quarterback option. And now it's like sometime on third and short, they'll take Rivers out.

Speaker 10 They're just gradually putting Jacoby Brissette into the game. Yeah.
And eventually, we're only going to get Phillip Rivers in like a situationally specific scenario where they need an interception.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 8 And he had, oh my God, that drop interception the Titans had.

Speaker 8 He had a bad game and it could have looked a lot worse. But yeah, the Colts, I don't know.
Are they going to make the playoffs? Probably.

Speaker 8 But I just don't trust them because Phil Rivers, bringing him to the Colts was a good idea in theory, but I don't know.

Speaker 10 It feels like the Colts have enough. There should be a tiebreaker in place in the NFL because it's going to come down to Tennessee and Indianapolis, obviously, for the AFC South.

Speaker 10 There should be a tiebreaker in place because we could end up in in a scenario where Indy gets in over Tennessee having the same record.

Speaker 10 But if you watch this game of football, you're like, Tennessee is a much, much better football team.

Speaker 10 Like, there should be an eyeball test that goes into the, like, how Cadillo always talks about if 100 drunk guys in a bar think it's a catch, they should get 100 drunk people together to vote on whether or not Tennessee is a better football team than Indy if it does come down to a tiebreaker.

Speaker 8 Because the answer is yes.

Speaker 10 And Tennessee is a much better football team.

Speaker 8 I'm looking at it right now, the Colts will make the playoffs. So they have the Texans twice and the Jaguars remaining.
And then the Raiders and the Steelers are mixed in there in between.

Speaker 8 They'll make the playoffs because they'll get, like, say they split with the Texans, beat the Jaguars, which I guess

Speaker 8 they didn't beat them, and then split the Raiders and Steelers. That's 10 wins.
Remind me to please bet against the Colts in the playoffs. Yes.
Because that's.

Speaker 8 They are the quintessential everything has to be perfect team.

Speaker 8 They have to play from a lead.

Speaker 8 They have to

Speaker 8 protect Phillip Rivers. They've got to be able to run the ball, which they weren't able to do pretty much any of those things today.

Speaker 8 And listen, they can win games. They were coming off beating the Packers last week.
They can win games and be a good-looking team, but when it goes bad, it looks really bad.

Speaker 10 They shouldn't have beaten the Packers, though. I still feel like the Packers should have won that game.

Speaker 10 That's crazy they lost to the Jaguars week one.

Speaker 10 They play a much different style of football when that roof's closed. That's all I'm saying.
I'm going to say, Mr. Ursay, keep the roof closed.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to be as down on the Colts, actually. I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 8 They're like the fourth best, fifth best team in the AFC.

Speaker 10 I think they're a perfectly fine team, but if you look at the butt-kicking that happened today, you can't say that they deserve to get in over the Tennessee Titans. I guess so.

Speaker 8 Absolutely not. Yeah, and the question goes to, like, if you're a Colts fan, like, do you actually trust that Phillip Rivers can win a playoff? I do.
Let alone two or three. No.

Speaker 8 I want to be very clear, though.

Speaker 10 I do want to see Phillip Rivers in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 Yes. That's a no-brainer.
Of course. And shout out to the Titans.
That's a big win. That's an impressive win for them.
They fucking kick their ass.

Speaker 8 No doubter.

Speaker 8 And maybe they got their swagger back. All right.
Next up.

Speaker 10 I would like to see a wild card banner get raised to the rafters in Indianapolis. Yes.

Speaker 10 AFC wild card qualifiers. Yes.
2020 Colts.

Speaker 8 Yes. All right.
Next up, Giants, Bengals.

Speaker 8 So the Giants were able to hold off the Bengals. Daniel Jones gets hurt, which let's talk about the Washington football team real quick.
They win big on

Speaker 8 Thursday, Thanksgiving Day. They momentarily take the lead in the NFC East.
The Giants snatch it back from them.

Speaker 8 But I think the Washington football team's strategy is starting to finally come to full fruition here.

Speaker 8 It is essentially like pass the ball five yards down the field with Alex Smith and then wait for every other quarterback in the NFC East to get hurt. Yeah.
And that's the strategy.

Speaker 8 And it's now we're two-thirds of the way there. And Carson Wentz, I don't even know if you'd want him to get hurt.
I think you want to keep him in. No, I want to keep him in.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I want want to keep him in. Jack getting hurt.
Now Daniel Jones may be getting hurt for a while. It's all kind of falling in place where this is a genius strategy by Ron Rivera.

Speaker 8 Play defense, short passes, let everyone else get hurt.

Speaker 10 Well, and the thing is, we've got, yeah, we did lose one quarterback to a leg injury.

Speaker 8 But that was another one.

Speaker 10 There's another one who

Speaker 10 has a history of leg injuries, and then a third that's been out indefinitely with diarrhea for two months. But we do have that third to fall back on.

Speaker 10 We do have Dwayne Haskins in case, heaven forbid anything happens to to Alex Smith. But also, the Washington football team football club's strength is still their past defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And the WFTFC's strength is a defensive line that will get after the quarterback. Montez Sweat played like a fucking beast on Thanksgiving.
Chase Young is, again, as advertised.

Speaker 10 Jonathan Allen, we've got a bunch of really talented players on that defense. And the running game is really strong.
Antonio Gibson is a fucking monster. And I think that, well, here's the thing.

Speaker 10 With Daniel Jones getting injured, Colt McCoy comes in, who at his, he is as good as an average Daniel Jones.

Speaker 8 Although Daniel Jones was starting to play well.

Speaker 8 He was starting to play well. The Giants' defense is legit, though.
The Giants defense is very much legit.

Speaker 8 They basically held the Bengals scoreless until their pre-vent defense. You know, the kick return happened.
But the Giants' defense is very, very legit.

Speaker 8 They also have a few playmakers where it's like

Speaker 8 it all comes down to Daniel Jones. If Daniel Jones, I think if you're the Giants, you basically say fuck it for this game against Seattle coming up in Seattle.

Speaker 8 Let Daniel Jones get healthy, hopefully, and then hit that home stretch of four games where three or four of them are at home. And yeah, I still think the Giants, they're a good-ish team.

Speaker 10 Okay, here's the thing. I'm looking at the football team, football club schedule moving forward.
And yes, they play the Steelers.

Speaker 8 You're a little biased with your

Speaker 8 viewing of the schedule.

Speaker 10 Okay, well, Big Cat, I had your back on the run.

Speaker 8 Well, the run. I mean, how could you say not? So we're about to go.
People are talking about it every week.

Speaker 10 We're about to go on our run, and we have the Steelers next week. The Steelers are going to be coming off a short week on Tuesday night.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 it's four nights.

Speaker 10 They have four days to rest after playing a physical football game against their heated rival. That's a big letdown game.
Yep. Football team could take that one.
Week after that, 49ers.

Speaker 10 Now, you might say the 49ers are a good team, a well-coached team that is capable of beating anybody in the NFC.

Speaker 10 That's where you're wrong on this one, Big Cat, because even though the game is scheduled to be played in San Francisco, the entire county or of Santa Clara has ruled that you can't have sporting events.

Speaker 10 So that game might take place in Washington.

Speaker 8 I don't think so. Anything can happen.
I think they'll play somewhere else. That's two wins in a row.
And then

Speaker 10 in week 15, we get the Seahawks. I'm going to talk that up as a loss.

Speaker 8 Okay. Stand up.

Speaker 10 Okay. Then Panthers at home, which are

Speaker 8 the frisky ass teams. We could win.

Speaker 10 And then week 17, the Eagles.

Speaker 8 At the Eagles.

Speaker 10 At the Eagles.

Speaker 8 But the Giants have four wins. The Giants, if we do the same thing with the Giants schedule, they play at the Seahawks.
Okay, you want to chalk that up because it's a loss.

Speaker 8 At home against the Cardinals, at home against the Browns. I mean, how is that?

Speaker 8 This is where the bias comes off. The Cardinals are not good.

Speaker 10 These are two playoff teams right now.

Speaker 8 I don't think the Cardinals are a playoff team at the end.

Speaker 10 I think they might be.

Speaker 8 I don't think they are.

Speaker 10 According to my playoff teams, they might be because of

Speaker 10 it's tough because I've spent so much time on the ESP and playoff machine that it just remembers my picks sometimes. And so

Speaker 10 I already have the Cardinals beating the Rams next week in this scenario. I basically create a little

Speaker 10 glimpse into my brain using this software device that just makes me feel better knowing that the Washington football team is going to be able to.

Speaker 8 They basically have the same schedule, and you somehow have it as

Speaker 8 the Washington football team has an easy schedule versus the Giants have the hardest schedule ever.

Speaker 10 Well, they don't have the same. So the Giants also have to go to Baltimore.
Okay. Which, I mean, if you want to substitute games in and out, I would rather go to San Francisco or wherever that

Speaker 8 Baltimore the way they're playing. Then go to Baltimore.

Speaker 10 I don't know about that. And then the Giants also have to go.

Speaker 8 And so Kyle Shanahan has revenge.

Speaker 10 The Browns at home. Yeah, which

Speaker 8 is a tough game.

Speaker 10 That's a tough game. I would rather have...

Speaker 8 All right, we've got to get back to the Browns Banks or the Giants Banks.

Speaker 10 I'd rather play the Panthers at home than the Browns at home.

Speaker 8 Yeah, sure, but that's not the game that you're substituting, right? The Cardinals would be the team that you would be substituting.

Speaker 10 Either one of those.

Speaker 8 The Panthers. Either one of those.
The Cardinals are not good.

Speaker 10 They beat the football team.

Speaker 8 They are struggling. We'll get to them later.

Speaker 8 So the Giants were good today. They played great defense.

Speaker 8 I love that Zach Taylor is coaching like a guy who's got a team that's 2-8 because we'll get to Anthony Lynn in a second. But the fake punt was great.
And my question to you, PFT, is...

Speaker 8 The Giants win this game, but did Joe Judge personally lose this game? Because he's a special teams coach. The Bengals returned a kick on his ass.
They did a fake fucking punt on his ass.

Speaker 8 And then at the end of the game, they had like a 20-yard return when they needed it for field goal range on his ass.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they cucked him out of his own special teams.

Speaker 8 Did Joe Judge personally lose this game?

Speaker 10 I think it's more of a negative than a positive for Joe Judge.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you beat a 2-8 team without their starting quarterback, and they dominated your facet of the game that you're supposed to be a specialist in.

Speaker 10 So yeah, some of that shine is gone off the Joe Judge.

Speaker 10 Did he even have a shine?

Speaker 8 I don't think he's going to be a good person. No, he's got shine right now, dude.

Speaker 10 Joe Judge has a shine. He's having a moment.

Speaker 8 Dude, the Giants are a goodish team.

Speaker 10 They are. Listen, I'm talking shit about the Giants because I want, and I truly do believe, in the Washington football team.
But the Giants are a good team. Their defense is good.
And

Speaker 10 we even have Giants fans advocating for, yeah, maybe we should look at trading Saquon Barkley in the offseason.

Speaker 8 It is very funny.

Speaker 10 It moves so quickly. Like going into the season, he was the only thing that they had to root for.
The thing that they were looking forward to the most. And I was like, yeah, get his ass out of here.

Speaker 8 It is very funny in the office because we're obviously in a New York office and the Giants have been so bad. They've lost the most games, I think, in the NFL in the last five years.

Speaker 8 It's funny, like, figuring out who's a Giants fan. They're popping up.
They're fucking sprouting. They are left and right.
They're like, oh, oh, oh, I know Clem is a diehard.

Speaker 8 There's a couple guys that are diehards. And then every now and then, it's like, oh, oh, Giants? Jets? I didn't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And I'm not, that's not like a knock. They've been so bad.
What would they cheer for? Right. But it is funny, like, oh, the Giants are starting to make some noise.

Speaker 10 And just so you know, when I say Giants fans, I've heard start to say that they would trade Saquon Barkley. I'm just, I'm talking about Glenny Balls.

Speaker 10 So I don't know if that's an accurate assessment of the entire fan base. I choose to believe that it is because I believe that Glenny is just an accurate representation of everything in America.

Speaker 8 Something about the Giants in their uniforms, when they start playing well, I just like, they're a uniform team for me. Yeah.
They're like, you know what?

Speaker 8 Like the Steelers, like whenever they start playing well, I'm like, they could go to the Super Bowl. I really like them.
I've been calling them good-ish.

Speaker 10 I like the Bengals uniforms today. The white ones, those are sweet.
I got confused. I always do whenever Brandon Allen's name pops up because I was expecting him to be a fat guy.

Speaker 10 Because I'm pretty sure there's an offensive lineman, a very good offensive lineman named Brandon Allen. Yeah.
Played for the Chiefs. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And I just always expected to be him at quarterback, and it never is, and I'm always disappointed.

Speaker 8 Yep, yep. So the Giants, I'm keeping them in my good-ish.
territory. I'm kind of out on a limb calling them goodish.
Don't let me down. Although now it's Colt McCoy, so we'll fucking see.

Speaker 8 But their defense is legit. Colt McCoy.
And they have fucking playmakers. Every time they look, like, Evan Ingram starting to play is such a found money thing for the Giants right now.

Speaker 8 And Darius Slayton, and

Speaker 8 they have guys. Like, Wayne Gallman's not terrible.
Right?

Speaker 10 Yeah, when Evan Ingram starts to play well, he looks like Hakeem Nix did at his best.

Speaker 8 Yeah. A little bit.
It's just, they're just starting to, I don't know. Something about the Giants, I'm captivated.
I think they have something going on. And That's what I'll say.

Speaker 10 Colt McCoy does have the revenge game against the Browns, and he does have the revenge factor against the entire Washington football team, trying to beat them out down the stretch.

Speaker 10 So who knows what's going to happen? We're just blessed to be living in a day and age where a 6-10 NFC East team is probably going to make the playoffs. And I'm very excited.

Speaker 8 Yes, it is going to happen. All right.
Next up, Chargers, Bills. I just alluded to this.
Anthony Lynn.

Speaker 8 So as much as Zach Taylor gets credit for coaching a 2-8 team, being like, fuck it, nothing to lose. Let's go for it.
Anthony Lynn, you are the the opposite. You are a coward.
You are a chicken shit.

Speaker 8 I cannot believe this guy is ruining Justin Herbert in this talented roster. That's pretty much, I don't want to pile on, but you're a fucking nin-ca-poop, and you got nothing in your brain.
I air.

Speaker 8 Iron is brain.

Speaker 10 I don't even think that he's like a coward. I think he's just a bird brain.
That's the only descripting phrase I can come up with for Anthony Lynn's brain. He's a bird brain.

Speaker 10 I don't mean that he has a bird's brain.

Speaker 8 Bears 7-0 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 10 I don't mean that he has a bird's brain inside of his skull.

Speaker 8 Did you see they have a skinny seen

Speaker 10 a third quarter of this whole season that's flying around in there all the time?

Speaker 8 Yes, a bird flying around. They actually have scored two times.

Speaker 10 He's a fucking bird brain. He's a coward.
He is a coward. You know what? He is a coward, but he gets confused sometimes.

Speaker 8 He's a panic guy. Yes, yes.

Speaker 10 He's a panic guy.

Speaker 10 At the end of the game, when he was trying to figure out whether he was going to kick a field goal to go down by seven points or score a touchdown to go down by three, he had no idea which way that he wanted to lose a one-score game by.

Speaker 10 So he kept sending his opposite teams out on the field back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker 10 And then he ran the dumbest play that I've seen probably in the NFL all year, which was the quarterback sneak by Justin Herbert, where he had the offensive line drop back into pass protection.

Speaker 10 Nobody blocked forward. And then Justin Herbert just took a snap under center and got tackled immediately.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they all went backwards towards him. So that ended the game.
Now, they weren't going to win the game. But the fact that you don't have the presence of mind, like, hey, we're down 10.

Speaker 8 You got to spike it and kick a field goal and then get your prayer. No, he runs the ball.
It's pretty much the only thing you can't do. Like, you can do a pass play, you do anything.

Speaker 8 But let's throw that out.

Speaker 10 It is funny, though, that he, like, the biggest conundrum in Anthony Lynn's bird brain was trying to figure out whether, like, which way he wanted to lose.

Speaker 10 Like, would I rather score a touchdown here and then have to, it didn't make sense to him. He's like, I'm used to just always losing by one score

Speaker 10 and have it being close at the end. This isn't close, but I can still lose by one score.

Speaker 10 How do I make that work? What's the smartest way for me to do that?

Speaker 10 And the answer, he should have just picked one way and done something competent with it, besides throwing like a million goal-line fades, which is another thing that he's addicted to.

Speaker 8 And he even brought out the field goal unit with like three seconds left. Yeah.
Like, oh shit, I forgot. So the other Anthony Lynn dumb, dumb thing at the end of the first half, when he

Speaker 8 calls a timeout, but he waits for like 20 seconds, doesn't know what he's doing, and then doesn't go for it on fourth and two. I think like the 45-yard line.
Dude, you're two and eight.

Speaker 8 You're two and eight. Just fucking go for it.
You're two and eight.

Speaker 8 what are you doing and we should give credit to the bills defense because the bills defense looked back to last year's bills defense coming out of the buy like if they figure out their defense that's a scary scary team because we know that their offense has weapons and can score but man their defense like finally looked competent against a Chargers offense that has been able to put up points they've got dudes right on their offense yeah I think that

Speaker 10 I think numbers just ruined Anthony Lynn's mind.

Speaker 10 I think that there are certain football guys that should never have been introduced to the world of analytics or advanced strategy, and they should always be gut guys.

Speaker 10 And I think that Anthony Lynn is one of those dudes who just got poisoned by math when he became a head coach, and now he's afraid to make any decision because he's still thinking about what the numbers might tell him.

Speaker 10 Like, if you have a guy that is just like straight up a football guy, like Neanderthal type head coach, just let them be themselves when they become a head coach, and don't try to turn them into Nate Silver.

Speaker 8 So Anthony Lynn, here's a positive spin for the Chargers. Anthony Lynn is so incompetent that he's going to get fired.

Speaker 8 And you have a chance here to hire a real coach, which I would actually throw out there that the Chargers' job is probably going to be one of the top jobs out there simply by the fact that Justin Herbert looks for real.

Speaker 8 You have Joey Bosa, who is also very much for real. He was a beast today.

Speaker 8 You have

Speaker 8 the recipe for

Speaker 8 a championship window. Yeah.
The quarterback on his rookie deal, who in the next couple of years could be a bona fide guy on his rookie deal, and then you build up the roster around it.

Speaker 8 You have the ability now. The Chargers actually have, like, in today's NFL, the three, four-year window here that could actually be something.

Speaker 8 So I think that from a coaching perspective, you should get the pick of the litter from like who your next coach is. Go get like Eric B.
Enemy, go get Joe Brady, whatever it may be.

Speaker 8 That's a good spin zone. Now, I think Anthony Lunstee is a fucking idiot.

Speaker 10 Some people would say it's not as attractive because then you have to play the Chiefs twice a year. I would say you were wrong about that

Speaker 10 because you have a built-in excuse to not win your division. Correct.
Because nobody is going to blame you for getting beat twice by the Chiefs in a year.

Speaker 10 No one's going to blame you if the Chiefs go like 14 and 2 for the next four or five years and you finish in that wildcard spot.

Speaker 10 People are going to be like, well, shit, that's Patrick Mahomes, who's the best quarterback that we've ever seen.

Speaker 10 So you have a built-in excuse ready to go, which is your most important part about taking any job in the NFL. Be ready to have that fired up.

Speaker 8 The Chargers play the Chiefs well. They've played them well.
So it's,

Speaker 8 yeah, I just think it's a very attractive job.

Speaker 10 Give credit to Josh Allen. He got a hockey assist today.

Speaker 8 Josh Allen. Josh Allen is the best number one guy reaching for the end zone.
Yeah, it's how tall he is.

Speaker 10 He's got the big hands.

Speaker 8 Hands. He is so good at doing that.
That touchdown run was awesome.

Speaker 10 If you were to design a human body to stretch out for the goal line you would just you would make josh allen speaking of which like he he broke his ankle and he was fine i don't know what happened on that he got bent back he pounded the turf and when you see a guy ankle like completely rolled up i don't know how he was able to come back and be effective there are like different levels of a guy being hurt on the ground where you can just tell how bad the injury is the head and the hands is always a bad one yep the pounding of the turf with one hand while you're like facebutting the turf is another really bad sign And that's what he did.

Speaker 10 He got up, limped off the field, and came back two plays later after Matt Castle, or not Matt, Matt Barkley, took an extreme sack to his big wide chest.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he thought he was Josh Allen for a second. He's like, oh, if I just play quarterback for the Bills here, I'll have all of his skills.
Josh Allen Allen.

Speaker 8 And he did like a step where he was, Josh Allen would have stepped and been able to get free.

Speaker 8 And he did that and just got absolutely blown up.

Speaker 10 Josh on the play that he did get injured on was a classic Josh Allen play where he pressed all the buttons on his way down. Oh, yeah.
He was trying to get like two more steps in.

Speaker 10 and then at the very last second, he's like, fuck it, I'll just try to throw a dump off

Speaker 10 to my running back. But yeah, I'm glad that he's not hurt.
The Bills look good.

Speaker 8 Their defense looks good. Bills is going to win that division.
The defense looks good coming out of the bye, and if their defense can get shit together a little bit, that's a scary, scary team.

Speaker 8 Also, put a pin in this one. Alex Kemp.

Speaker 8 You know, I'm mad. About a game that I lost money on when I look up who the ref crew was.
Alex Kemp. That's the crew.

Speaker 8 Don't ever let me bet on a game with him again because those flags were so fucking ridiculous. That flag that

Speaker 8 who was it, Moss got for unnecessary or was it unsportsmanlike conduct when he literally just rolled over on a guy

Speaker 8 getting tackled. Fuck those guys.

Speaker 10 Josh Allen got a flag for spinning the ball in the end zone.

Speaker 8 It was crazy. It was crazy.

Speaker 8 Thank you. Is he one of the fucking motherfucking pieces of shit? Jake is.

Speaker 10 Is he one of the beard guys?

Speaker 8 Maybe. Just bet the under.

Speaker 10 There are like three different crews in the NFL where the head referee has a beard, and that guy did not have a beard last year.

Speaker 8 All right, tell me who he's refing next Friday. Next Friday, tell me which game we're taking the under.
Because there were so many drives killed by their stupid bullshit flags.

Speaker 8 It's so many points left on that board.

Speaker 8 Fuck them. And fuck Alex Kemp.
Again, if I have to look up who the officiating crew is, you know that I want to fistfight you and punch you in the neck.

Speaker 10 And we get into this a little bit with Deion later, but the Bills suck at Hail Marys. They're the worst Hail Mary team, maybe, in the history of the history.

Speaker 8 Defensively, yes. Yes.

Speaker 10 Offensively, probably the best of all time with Josh Allen. You think you can throw a Hail Mary from anywhere on the field.
Yes.

Speaker 10 But yeah, on defense, they've given up three consecutive completions on Hail Marys, one of which was a push-off on Keenan Allen, which they did call.

Speaker 10 But still, like back-to-back catches on a Hail Mary, that's a tough look.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 8 That is a tough look.

Speaker 8 And shout out

Speaker 8 the newest member of the PMT crew, Cam. He, listen, it's tough.
It's tough to go sit in the gambling cave with us on a Sunday. It is really trial by fire, but

Speaker 8 I almost fucking bit his head off. For what? Because the first Hail Mary, Keenan Allen had the most blatant push-off of all time, and

Speaker 8 he then took off his helmet. And the guy, the ref comes in and throws the flag.
And Cam's like, no, no, no, the flag was for the helmet being taken off. It's not for the push-off.

Speaker 8 And I was like, shut the fuck up, dude. He pushed off.
And And then they call the push-off. He's like, oh, yeah, you're right.
And I was like, God damn it, dude. Do not.

Speaker 8 Like, there's those crunch time witching hour moments where everyone has to have their head on a swivel and no wrong statements can be made. And it's okay.

Speaker 8 I'm not mad at him, but I was like, gotta be better.

Speaker 10 And there were two reps that threw a flag, too, like right in front of him.

Speaker 8 And it was the most blatant push-off ever.

Speaker 8 It was the most blatant. That was it.

Speaker 10 It was such a shitty ending to the game. Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 8 It really was. Fuck you, Anthony Lynn.

Speaker 10 And there were like nine turnovers in the third and fourth quarters.

Speaker 8 Everyone hates you, dude.

Speaker 8 All right. Panthers, Vikings.

Speaker 8 Nice guy. Like, seems like a nice guy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I liked him on hard knocks. Seems like a nice guy.
He was good on Zoom. Yeah.

Speaker 8 All right. Panthers, Vikings, Vikings, Kirk Cousins with a game-winning drive.
Unbelievable.

Speaker 8 They come back and win a game where there was so much chaos going on in the witching hour. I feel like this one almost slipped under the rope.
We looked up.

Speaker 8 We're like, oh, shit, the Vikings are about to win?

Speaker 10 Well, yeah, it's because they started to fuck up in the fourth quarter. And And so it was.
Chad Beebe. Yeah, Chad Beebe.

Speaker 10 Absolutely fucked some stuff up. I will say this about Kirk Cousins.
It takes me a lot to say this, but

Speaker 10 he's a fine quarterback.

Speaker 8 That was a nice

Speaker 10 team-winning drive.

Speaker 8 Yeah. He's played well at home.

Speaker 8 I did love, there was, speaking of Madden, there was the Madden glitch to start the second half where Jeremy Chin, back-to-back plays, got a fumble for a touchdown.

Speaker 8 That's one where you throw your controller through the TV and you're like, fuck this, this game is rigged.

Speaker 10 I really hope that he had something good for breakfast because every other game from now on, you have to have, you have to eat the exact same thing.

Speaker 10 You have to copy whatever you did today that puts you in a position to get those two scooping scores.

Speaker 10 So I hope it was something hearty, something delicious, something that you're going to look forward to replicating every week.

Speaker 8 So Jeremy Chin, so he scores back-to-back touchdowns and back-to-back plays, offensive snaps on fumble recoveries. The last guy to do it was 1948 Fred Dippy Evans.

Speaker 8 And I went and tried to find what his nickname is from. I assumed it's just he threw in fucking huge hogs.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Dippy.

Speaker 8 But all I could find was this is this is a Fred Dippy Evans story that's that's quite something.

Speaker 8 Evans was considered shy but tough before a game against USC.

Speaker 8 Bill Reardon, a teammate, poured a bucket of water over Evans' head. So that sounds like that's the first ice bucket challenge.

Speaker 8 Evans tried to retaliate but crashed into a wall and split his knee open he concealed the energy uh the injury from his coach and played in the usc game but needed 11 stitches afterward how do you conceal a first of all bleeding out of his knee after his football career he owned the dry cleaning business dippy dude dippy dippy's just throwing in cooperation

Speaker 10 do you have me to run into a wall and split your knee open i can think of like nine different parts of my body that would hit the wall before my knee would if i was trying to retaliate against fred dippy events

Speaker 8 so i couldn't find out why they call him dippy the dipper Fred Dippy Evans. Oh, I had a couple.
He had a bunch of nicknames.

Speaker 10 Dippy was probably a code name for something that, like, that was weird back in the 50s.

Speaker 8 Maybe he invented Dippin' Dots.

Speaker 8 Maybe he liked the future.

Speaker 10 He liked Anal.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he just dipped it in there.

Speaker 10 Yeah, just get it dipped.

Speaker 8 His nicknames were Dippy, Dipp, the Dipper, Fearless Fred. That was probably because of the stitches.

Speaker 8 What a legend. So Fred Dippy Evans.
Shout out you, dude. And the anal, probably.
And the anal. Big-time anal guy.
He brought, he actually was the one who introduced anal to the entire state of Ohio.

Speaker 10 That's fascinating.

Speaker 10 And now it's, yeah, he's like the Johnny Apple scene.

Speaker 8 Wherever he goes, everyone.

Speaker 10 Judge is plugging up butts.

Speaker 8 Yeah, as soon as he got on the Browns, he's like, check this out. Watch this, boys.
You dip it in, and then you take it out.

Speaker 10 You know, they say Dippy Evans. You only die the last time somebody says your name? We just resurrected Fred Dippy Evans.

Speaker 8 Dude, Fred Dippy Evans is a legend. He literally invented analogies.
I got the answer why is Dippy Evans? Anal. Anal.

Speaker 10 It's anal gym. It's a few sentences, so bear with me.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 10 If it doesn't have anal in it, make something up that has anal in it. It doesn't have anal.

Speaker 8 Well, no,

Speaker 8 Jake, you said anal? That's just a word. Yeah.
That's a word. It's a word.
It's a horseplay's involved. Oh, horseplay.
He was amongst, it was that he went to Notre Dame.

Speaker 8 He was amongst some fighting Irish players involved in horseplay at the dormitory. Okay, don't you say analog? That is literally anal.

Speaker 10 Okay, so he's a strict Catholic.

Speaker 8 Yeah, horseplay. Yeah.
Because they probably were like, yo, they were squirting water onto each other. No, they probably were.
Oh, yeah,

Speaker 10 exactly. Was it water or was it Lube?

Speaker 8 No, they probably were like, yo, is Fred? Is Fred doing

Speaker 8 Fred doggy style? No, that's ain't no.

Speaker 10 You told the story wrong. What happened was

Speaker 10 it wasn't a teammate who dumped the water. It was opposing players who dumped the water on him.
And then they shot him up with Novocaine that made him a little sedated and dippy.

Speaker 10 So kind of like ditzy because he was all shot up.

Speaker 8 The opposing one kidnapped him.

Speaker 8 Yeah, waterboarded him and then shot him with Truiser. I'm reading the CIA.
It says Bill Reardon, a teammate.

Speaker 10 The young men were squirting water onto each other as they ran through the building. He hurt his knee like twice, I guess.
Evan slipped on a wet sword.

Speaker 8 He just was always doing water fights and hurting his knee. Yeah.
What is this? Like fucking the biggest one.

Speaker 10 So he kept shotting up with

Speaker 8 Nova King. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 10 I think we got it. It's the anal.

Speaker 8 It's totally anal.

Speaker 8 Saul got it. 100%.

Speaker 10 But yeah, this was a good Kirk Cousins game. I still think he kind of stinks, but he's a fine quarterback.
I'm just still thinking about it at times.

Speaker 10 It's actually big that they won it without Thielen.

Speaker 8 Yes. Right? Yes.
And, well, Chad Beebe. Chad Beebe is the new touchdown.
After being the goat, he went from the goat to the goat.

Speaker 10 They keep sending Joey Sly out.

Speaker 8 I was going to say, so Joey Sly, shout out Joey Sly.

Speaker 8 This guy, he has the worst job in the world because the Panthers are just good enough to always be in it and then just bad enough to never get actually into field goal range.

Speaker 8 So in the last six games, they have trotted him out there to try to hit a game tying or winning kick from 54 yards yards today, 67 yards against the Chiefs, and 65 yards against the Saints.

Speaker 8 They basically are just like, dude, we just, like, go out there, kicker, fail.

Speaker 8 Our offense cannot get into, you know, that line, field goal range. We will never get there.
So just go out there, kick it, and then we'll call it a day, hit the shower.

Speaker 10 I don't even think they have a line that they put up when Joey Sly is on your team because it could be from, you could attempt a field goal from literally anywhere on the field. Yeah.
Joey Sly.

Speaker 10 I would not be shocked if he had the leg to make it through the end zone, but missed by like 15 yards wide to the left.

Speaker 8 Oh, man. So Joey Sly, shout out.
That's a terrible job that you have.

Speaker 8 He's really doing a good job. Jefferson.

Speaker 10 You haven't hit any of them. Jefferson, really good.

Speaker 10 We benched him. You guys don't care about our fantasy team? I don't care about our fantasy team.

Speaker 8 I don't even care about our fantasy team.

Speaker 10 But we benched him for, what's his name? Hinton.

Speaker 8 For Kendall Hinton.

Speaker 8 TFT said he's going to pick them up. Kendall started.

Speaker 10 I was riding high off the news of Taysom Hill putting up numbers as a tight end last week. I was like, I figured out a way to hack the system.

Speaker 10 Now we have a wide receiver who's also a quarterback.

Speaker 8 He said, Kendall Hinton is going to go off. Yep.

Speaker 8 All right. Next up, we have Raiders Falcons.
Just, just when we started to give the Raiders credit and start taking them for real, they go and drop an absolute fucking egg in Atlanta. I don't know.

Speaker 8 I mean, here's a positive. I'll say something nice, Raiders fans.
Nathan Peterman had five pass attempts and he didn't throw an interception.

Speaker 10 He completed three of them, I think. Yep.
Three for five. So the game ended with Nathan Peterman and Matt Schaub on the field.
Beautiful. Going back and forth.

Speaker 8 Just how they drew it up.

Speaker 10 It stinks because we don't get a pick six. With those two guys playing against each other and you don't get a pick six.

Speaker 10 I think it's like seeing porn stars with their clothes on in the same room as each other.

Speaker 10 Like at the AVNs, when they get up to accept a war and you keep hoping that someone's going to take their shirt off. Yep.
Like it's like, oh, there's Johnny Sins and

Speaker 10 Madison Ivey on the red carpet. One of them is going to get their pants off soon.
soon. Nope, and we didn't get to see a pick six, but Matt Schaub did get a quarterback save.
So he has one

Speaker 10 save on the year behind Jameis Winston's two.

Speaker 8 The Raiders, this is just a huge step back. I guess the actual spin zone here is the Raiders were so bad that you can just throw out the game tape.
Like, you weren't even... remotely in this game.

Speaker 8 It was never a question. You looked flat from the beginning.
And Derek Carr, we'll talk about this with Deion, but little hands, the little tiny little hands, Derek Carr.

Speaker 8 If you don't think little hands matter, if you don't think hand size matter, Derek Carr has played 105 games in the NFL. He has 63 fumbles, and he's lost 31 of them.
Pathetic. That is insane.

Speaker 10 And what's almost worse is now he's got that meme that follows him around every time he does something bad.

Speaker 10 The clip from last Sunday night where he's just like staring at the camera looking like Jared Goth, and he's just looking like he's going to start crying his eyeliner off his face.

Speaker 10 And so every time he does something bad, it's like, boom, that pops up on the timeline.

Speaker 8 What happens now? I saw Derek Carr's brother, not David, the other, the third brother, tweeted on Sunday night, last Sunday night when they were playing the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 I kept a list, and I'll be like calling these people out. What do you do now? What do you do after this game?

Speaker 10 Well, he's on, good news for everybody that made fun of... Derek Carr last week, his brother is on your list.
Yeah. I mean, like, I told you so.
I told you this guy stunk.

Speaker 8 That was a bad, bad game. I mean, the Raiders' defense is just bad.

Speaker 10 Derek Carr is a big blocker on Twitter, too. I believe it.
He's like the Ben Rothlessberger. I believe it.
He ran his own account.

Speaker 8 Seems like his wife might run his account and just block everyone. Probably.

Speaker 8 He seems like a

Speaker 8 here, honey, have all my passwords type of dude.

Speaker 10 Derek Carr. Oh, he doesn't block me.
How about that?

Speaker 8 Let's share. Let me see.
Let's share a,

Speaker 8 you know, an email. He shares an email address with his wife.

Speaker 10 An answering machine message.

Speaker 8 That's definitely... He doesn't block me.
All right. Cool.
I'm going to follow your ass, Derek Carr. I'm going to follow your face.

Speaker 10 If you're Derek Carr, it's got to be so much worse to get benched for Nathan Peterman than for Marcus Mariota, right? Correct.

Speaker 10 I would much rather see Mariota come in off the sidelines and be like, Derek is going with this guy.

Speaker 8 We need to see that.

Speaker 10 I forgot he did, too.

Speaker 8 Put that in like a Google calendar, Jake. Yep.
January 17th.

Speaker 8 Remember Marcus Mariota. Yeah, just see if he's alive.
Sister's birthday. There we go.
Oh, happy to see you. Shout out to Shout out.

Speaker 8 Remember Marcus Mariota on that day.

Speaker 8 Is that a Tuesday or Wednesday?

Speaker 8 What is it? I don't know why. It's a Sunday.
We'll be here. I don't know why I only gave two options.

Speaker 8 It's a Sunday.

Speaker 8 It's a Sunday. We'll be here.
So actually, sorry, no offense to your sister, Hank, but let's move it back. Yep.

Speaker 8 Actually, let's go to the following Wednesday. It seems like...
Or Tuesday. Tuesday.
It seems like a Tuesday type for a Wednesday show. Wednesday is Inauguration Day.
Tuesday is the 19th. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 We're really going to have a lot to talk about. We're going to be busy on that one.
I'm just looking at my Apple calendar, and I had a dot. Are you saying the election is official?

Speaker 8 We're not talking about that. Okay, all right.
Well, I'm just saying it. Who said this?

Speaker 8 You know how the holidays pop up on your Apple calendar?

Speaker 8 That's what came up.

Speaker 10 He didn't say who was getting inaugurated.

Speaker 8 That's true. Yeah.
That's a good point. Yeah.
That's a good point. Jake's a.
All right, so put it in. That's Marcus Marietta.
Big Joe Dorgan guy. Remember Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 8 You get inaugurated if you wouldn't.

Speaker 10 You get re-inaugurated. Oh.
Yeah. You like double, you pinky swear on the Bible.

Speaker 8 Fun fact. JPP could not be.
Remember Marcus Mariota Day. Got it.
Okay. Pardon my take.
Hank is furious over there. Hank, explain to me.

Speaker 13 Explain to me why you're just screaming at the television i have the second half under 21 and a half there's 21 points currently and the packers just dropped an interception in the touch in the end zone yes they did so this is gonna so mitch is gonna fuck you i like this formation four guys and only three defenders i think the bear that should be a touchdown even montky

Speaker 8 they can't stop the game the catch the game the run the catch everything

Speaker 8 wow what a beast

Speaker 8 All right, so the oh, they're going for two. Let's go.
They're going for two. Matt Niggy's team.

Speaker 8 He's done the math. Matt Nagy has done the math.

Speaker 10 Charts says when you're down 18,

Speaker 8 you got to go for two. Yeah.
We're now, we'll only be down 16.

Speaker 10 And Billy's teaser's alive.

Speaker 8 Everyone wins. Look at this, Billy.
Your teaser's alive.

Speaker 10 I shudder to think what the spreadsheet looks like incorporating teasers.

Speaker 8 Oh, I'm working on that. I'm just saying it right now.
The Bears now have, they're going to be up 13-0 in the fourth quarter. That's kind of a slaughter.
That's kind of a slaughter.

Speaker 8 All right, we'll live for this two-point conversion. Does this matter, Hank?

Speaker 8 Oh, it doesn't?

Speaker 3 No. Okay.

Speaker 8 All right, so the two-point conversion doesn't matter. Matt Nagy drew up his best play, and

Speaker 8 it was

Speaker 8 very nice. Wow.

Speaker 8 16.

Speaker 8 I'm going to tweet the eyeball emoji. You know what?

Speaker 10 You guys are just going to run out of time in this one again. Yep.

Speaker 8 I'm going to tweet the eyeball emojis real quick. That one's going to feel good.

Speaker 10 Billy, so have you started working on your teaser spreadsheet? Yeah, after the success of this week's Can't Win Parlay,

Speaker 10 honestly, it's probably the most successful.

Speaker 8 Shout out to you, dude. I'm sorry for hating on it.

Speaker 10 Dude, it's working. We perfected it.

Speaker 8 You killed it.

Speaker 10 You perfected it.

Speaker 10 It won, you know, on a $100 bet. It won $124.

Speaker 10 When you open up the spreadsheet for the first time and you're putting the formulas in, do you get Clippy, the Microsoft Office logo, pop up, and be like, hey, it looks like you're screening.

Speaker 8 It looks like you're going to

Speaker 10 make all your money. It looks like you should throw your computer into a lake.

Speaker 8 It worked.

Speaker 10 I mean, it worked.

Speaker 8 It worked.

Speaker 10 I mean, as Buster once said, the only difference between a fool and a visionary is success, and we have successful.

Speaker 8 That is something Buster said.

Speaker 10 So you're calling yourself a visionary.

Speaker 8 Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished.

Speaker 10 So actually, check it out because we're going to do next week, and it's up for the year.

Speaker 8 This would be hilarious if the Bears somehow covered this spread. They could.
All right, let's go to... Oh, yeah, the Falcons.
Good job. Every year is the same now for the Falcons.

Speaker 8 They suck, and then they get an interim head coach.

Speaker 8 Or, I mean, I counted Dan Quinn after the buy as an interim head coach last year, and they put together some wins, and everyone says, why are the Falcons so bad?

Speaker 8 They have such a good roster. And then next year, we're going to be like, ooh, you know who we should look out for?

Speaker 10 The Falcons. I look at the Falcons as a bad job.

Speaker 10 If I'm a coach that's looking, you know, at my pick of the litter next year, I don't think I would go to Atlanta. It is cursed.
I would not.

Speaker 8 It is cursed.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 8 Let's go to Cardinals Patriots. Hank, are you back in?

Speaker 8 Sort of.

Speaker 13 I'm rooting for a game cancellation, which would then add the extra two teams, or what is it, four teams to the playoffs?

Speaker 8 No, it'd be four.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Eight full teams, so one extra team.

Speaker 13 One extra team. I'm rooting for a game cancellation.
Like

Speaker 10 this Steelers rate.

Speaker 8 You got your eyes on it.

Speaker 13 I got my eyes on it.

Speaker 8 You got it on the tickler.

Speaker 8 One cancellation equals Pats are back.

Speaker 10 If there's one coach in the NFL that would

Speaker 8 narrowly infect his stairway to seven.

Speaker 10 I think it would be Belichick. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'd agree.

Speaker 8 All right, so Cam Newton won this game. Nine for 18, 84 yards, two interceptions.
That's remarkable.

Speaker 10 He drew a big personal foul.

Speaker 13 And you believe all these teams passed on Cam? Yeah.

Speaker 8 He had a 13-passer rating in the first half.

Speaker 8 This is just a testament. Remember, I told you this take

Speaker 8 a few weeks ago. I do think it's coming.
Is this Bill Belichick's best coaching job?

Speaker 10 It might be.

Speaker 8 You know what? This actually is Bill Belichick's best coaching job.

Speaker 10 I mean, his defense has stunk but he shut down kyler murray right and and offensive guru cliff kingsbury dude football genius cliff kingsbury was not able to score more than 10 points against this team

Speaker 10 and it should have been worse because they got that flag on the crackback block on the punt return by gunner yep the phantom call which doesn't it still doesn't make any sense to me i don't know if it was the right call or the wrong call but it looked as just somebody who was watching football like a normal football play.

Speaker 8 It was personally normal.

Speaker 10 Blocked this other person. and looked at each other in their faces.

Speaker 10 And then, if that's a penalty, they should just, every team should have one floppy nerd that they send out on kick returns to just get blocked into the dirt and have it look like a penalty.

Speaker 10 And then the refs will just call it because that's, I think that's what half of penalty calls in the NFL are now. It's just like, does that look like it should be a penalty?

Speaker 8 Yeah, does that guy look like he's hurt?

Speaker 10 Yeah, like flat.

Speaker 10 I mean, with the Cam Newton penalty at the end of the game, it was kind of like that too, where it looked like it was a penalty, but I don't necessarily think that it even was a penalty.

Speaker 8 I agree. He was in bounds and he was a runner.
I agree. What were you going to say?

Speaker 10 It's nature.

Speaker 8 Body craves contact. Body does crave contact.

Speaker 8 Is Cliff Kings a very good coach?

Speaker 10 No, when I call him an offensive genius and a guru, I'm not saying that's a good idea.

Speaker 8 Tongue in cheek. Yes.
He, yeah, this is the Cardinals are now one Hail Mary away from a four-game losing streak. Like, they haven't been playing good,

Speaker 8 right? And they do have a ton of talent. And so what's going on? I don't know.
I feel like we've anointed him a little.

Speaker 8 Maybe not us personally because we've been calling him a mimbo and saying that he just wants to get sucked off going home from P.F. Changs.

Speaker 8 But still, it does feel like Cliff Kingsbury, I don't know, not that good of a coach.

Speaker 10 I don't think he is.

Speaker 8 Yeah. It is crazy.
He's not that hot. He's not that hot.
It is crazy how bad the Patriots' defense played well. That goal line stand to end the first half.

Speaker 8 It's crazy, though, how bad both quarterbacks played.

Speaker 8 And this game was one of those games that's like Red Zone forgot about it. We didn't see it much.
It didn't seem very good. But the Patriots, I think the Patriots are going to do this.

Speaker 8 They're just going to go back and forth like this.

Speaker 10 I think Belichick likes playing against a quarterback who's a challenge like Kyler Murray. Yeah.
He gets up for it.

Speaker 10 He gets into the real weird shit on defense when it's an enigma that he has to solve.

Speaker 10 He can only force himself to be so creative after 20-some years coaching if he's going up against a traditional pocket pass. It's like Philip Rivers again.

Speaker 10 He's like, oh, Jesus, I got to fucking figure out a way to pick this guy off three times again in the fourth quarter. But when it's a guy like Kyler Murray who presents a challenge to him,

Speaker 10 that wakes him up out of his little football coma.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 the Patriots are going to lose to the Chargers next week and then they'll beat the Rams

Speaker 8 the week after. And everyone be like, what's going on?

Speaker 13 I think they're going to win out.

Speaker 8 They're going to win out. I just think they're going to go back and forth like this.
They're going to one game back, one game forth, like just go back and forth.

Speaker 8 What do you make of them? We don't know. Because that Texans loss still makes no sense.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 8 Let's see. Yeah, and the Cardinals, I don't know what to make of the Cardinals.
I think they stink. I'm now in the Cardinals' stink.

Speaker 8 I'm sick of hearing about the Cardinals and being like, I think they're soft.

Speaker 8 If Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury put it all together, I think they stink. I think they're not going to make the playoffs, even though

Speaker 8 that's kind of hard to do looking at how bad the NFC Euro, like the NFC East has changed the entire playoff picture. They have brought everyone to their level.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because it just eliminates an entire

Speaker 8 and it eliminates four full teams. And so when you look at the rest of the playoff picture, you're like, well, where are we going to find the other teams?

Speaker 10 I think the Cardinals should only play games against the NFC West. They're so fun when they play the Rams.
It's true. The Seahawks.
It is true. The 49ers.

Speaker 8 Hank, do you need this at all or no? No. Okay.
You're out? Yeah. You're out.
All right. All right.
Next up, let's do it. Dolphins versus the Jets.
Fuck. Billy, you're out now.

Speaker 8 So the quote was, with Sam Darnold and his three dudes at receiver, Adam Gace said this is a chance for everyone to see what maybe it could have been. He said that this past week, talking about

Speaker 8 Sam Darnold getting healthy, the three dudes at receiver getting healthy.

Speaker 8 The final stat line is 16 for 27, 197 yards.

Speaker 10 We'll always just look back and think, man,

Speaker 10 how great could we have been if everybody was just healthy?

Speaker 8 Yeah, two interceptions.

Speaker 10 Didn't get mono.

Speaker 8 Three points.

Speaker 10 We could have had this. This could have all been ours.

Speaker 8 Three points. Everyone healthy.
Hyper drive. Three points.

Speaker 8 And Sam Darnold afterwards said still super confident in Adam Gase.

Speaker 8 I don't know why. Is he saying that? Because

Speaker 8 I think now everyone realizes they're all hitching their wagon to Adam Gase staying as the coach for the rest of the year because they want to complete the tank.

Speaker 8 So Joe Douglas wants to complete the tank, get Trevor Lawrence. Sam Darnold wants to complete the tank, get Trevor Lawrence so he can then go somewhere else that's not the Jets.

Speaker 8 People are like, ooh, he's going to go back up Big Ben in Pittsburgh. That would be the greatest thing to ever happen to Sam Darnold's career.

Speaker 10 But I think he wants to stay. Like Sam Darnard.

Speaker 8 No, I know. I think he knows.
I think he knows. Get me out of here.

Speaker 10 So if I'm Sam Darnold, I'm probably doing the exact same thing where you have to act like you have Adam Gace's back for the rest of the year.

Speaker 10 Because if you don't, if you publicly go against him and he continues to be the head coach, then there's a chance.

Speaker 10 It's a small chance, but there's a chance that the front office looks at the problem at the end of the year and figures, like, one of these guys has to, and they take a side one way or the other.

Speaker 10 Now, I guess if you're Sam Donald, you could say, like, yeah, if they want to point all their fingers at me and get rid of me and keep Adam Gase, that's great because I'll probably come back and beat Adam Gase as a coach of the New York Jets eventually.

Speaker 10 But I don't know. I feel like you just got to pretend to have his back.

Speaker 10 But I think what he's doing is he's like playing mom and dad off each other a little bit because Gace was saying that he gave up play calling, took it back.

Speaker 8 then there was a report that he gave it up again but then their offensive coordinator said that he wasn't calling the plays and then after the game gase had to like he had to explain that yes he was still involved in the play calling yeah this is dow loggins and adam gase have done this in chicago they did this in miami now that now they're doing it with the jets this is like his just traveling band of idiots yeah keep getting jobs I want to see Adam Gase get another job.

Speaker 8 I wouldn't even be shocked if he does.

Speaker 10 I would love to see the Jets extend Adam Gase. Yeah.
How great would that be?

Speaker 8 It would be incredible.

Speaker 10 Hey, spin zone for Jets fans. At least Stephen Cohen's the owner of the Mets right now.

Speaker 8 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 10 So you're good to go.

Speaker 8 All right. And

Speaker 8 also, I'm happy for Ryan Fitzpatrick because he came back and he played well and he got a win. And that's cool.

Speaker 10 You know what? It just dawned on me.

Speaker 10 Here's why Adam Gace can't remember whether or not he's actually calling the plays or not because he can't remember what he leaked to Manish Mehta as a lie in the New York Daily News.

Speaker 10 He can't keep his lies straight at this point and all his grudges straight.

Speaker 8 I I agree.

Speaker 10 So if the report comes out that he accidentally confirms that was originally a lie to try to fuck over a reporter who sucks, then he looks like a liar in front of the press afterwards.

Speaker 10 So I kind of sympathize with that.

Speaker 8 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 8 The Jets are just full-on, just keep losing. Just keep losing.
I don't think there's a Jets fan that isn't happy about these losses. Like they just want to keep losing.

Speaker 8 There's no, maybe Fireman Ed, there's always one crazy who's like, ooh, like we're going to win this game. All right.
The Packers are kneeling it. And they brought out Rodgers to kneel it in our face.

Speaker 8 Finals 41-25. That fucking sucked a lot.
And it wasn't that close.

Speaker 8 But the run. We will always have the run.

Speaker 8 All right. Dolphins Jets.
So that's the Dolphins Jets. Good on the Dolphins.
They're still rolling. They have the Bengals next week.
Then they have like a gauntlet coming up.

Speaker 8 We'll find out how good they actually are. I think Tua might miss some time.
I think Tua might miss some time. I don't know if that's a mad mistake.

Speaker 10 So is Tua officially hurt?

Speaker 8 Yes. I believe so.
Oh, so Frank Gore had 21 carries. Yeah.
That's ridiculous. That is insane.
He's going to, Frank Gore

Speaker 10 might take his son's job

Speaker 10 as a starting running back in three years.

Speaker 8 He had 21 carries. He's fucking.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 8 they're diving out of here. Love this.

Speaker 8 Love this.

Speaker 10 The old Greg Sciano. Yeah.

Speaker 8 A little old black and blue.

Speaker 10 That's

Speaker 10 AFC North football.

Speaker 8 Get him. Get him.

Speaker 8 Man.

Speaker 8 That was fun. Good fight, defense.
Way to fight at the end there after the game is over.

Speaker 8 All right, let's go to Browns Jaguars. The Browns, the Cleveland Browns, the Cleveland Browns are not going to have a losing season for the first time since 2007.

Speaker 10 That's good for them. Unbelievable.
And they're good, and they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 8 They are going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 10 The Browns are a good football team.

Speaker 8 They won't have a losing record for the first time since 2007. That's huge.

Speaker 10 That's a crazy thing. Everyone should be rooting for the Browns.

Speaker 8 How do you not have a Books?

Speaker 10 You don't have a dog in the fight. Like, it's good to see a team finally make their fan base happy after a long time.

Speaker 8 A Browns playoff game will be must-watch television. What do you say, Billy?

Speaker 10 Quick question for you guys. Yeah.
Where do you put the Browns next to the Raiders or the Falcons, two teams that you said? You know, what's the weather?

Speaker 8 Good or bad?

Speaker 10 What's the weather?

Speaker 8 Yeah, give us the weather. Give us a forecast.
Playoff stretch type weather. Okay, so cold.
Browns.

Speaker 10 Throw in a dome.

Speaker 10 The Browns.

Speaker 10 It's cold, but it's in a dome. Is it cold inside the dome?

Speaker 8 Let's say cold game.

Speaker 8 Okay, so the Browns.

Speaker 10 All right, so it's a 40-degree game inside of a dome for some reason.

Speaker 10 I take the Browns.

Speaker 8 The Browns and the Raiders are actually very similar teams. Derek Carr's better than Baker Mayfield, but the Raiders don't have Miles Garrett.
That's pretty much how you'd sum it up in my mind.

Speaker 8 They both can run the football.

Speaker 8 They're kind of

Speaker 8 similarly built, except the Raiders' defense has no one, and the Browns' defense has a top-five defensive player. So that changes things.
And a dude who smashes people with his helmet.

Speaker 10 I think they're actually very similar. Even like Baker and David Carr are similar quarterbacks

Speaker 10 in that, okay, Baker.

Speaker 8 He played well, but he had a couple throws right now.

Speaker 10 He had a couple touchdowns that he should have had that were very easy that he did not complete.

Speaker 10 But, I mean, when you go to

Speaker 10 Derek Carr, he makes some boneheaded mistakes, too.

Speaker 8 Not even the touchdown throw that he missed, that fourth down throw or third down throw where they could have just won the game right there and they couldn't fucking get it.

Speaker 8 Like, the Jaguars were spunky. What did Mike Francesca say? They're the best one in 10 team he's ever seen.

Speaker 10 So, so he said they are the Jacksonville Jaguars are the best one in 10 team of all time that's in the history of the NFL. And so, we had Jake look up who the other one in 10 teams are.

Speaker 10 Yeah, there's six teams

Speaker 8 in the last decade.

Speaker 10 Because this is this is a great take by Francesca.

Speaker 8 Do you want to start earlier or most recent?

Speaker 10 Most recent.

Speaker 8 2017-49ers.

Speaker 10 That's Chip Kelly.

Speaker 8 Okay, yeah, no. 2016-49ers.

Speaker 10 That's Tom Sula. They were good.

Speaker 8 They won their first game. 2014 Jaguars.

Speaker 10 Blake Bortles.

Speaker 8 No, before Blake.

Speaker 10 No, that was his rookie year.

Speaker 8 Oh, it was? Shit. Yeah.

Speaker 10 So the Jaguars have two of the top four.

Speaker 8 2014 Raiders. No.

Speaker 8 2012 Chiefs. I couldn't tell you the quarterbacks on any of these.
That might have been

Speaker 8 Cody Croyle. Yeah.
And then 2010 Panthers. Oh, no.
No, you know who that was? It was.

Speaker 8 Wait, what is it? 20 what? 2012 Chiefs.

Speaker 10 Oh, was that Tyler Palco?

Speaker 8 Dude, Tyler Palco with his Hail Mary against the Bears. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Fuck, yeah. That was a pretty good one in 10 team.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And 2012 Panthers 2-14.
He was the first pick to get Cam the year after. Okay.
Tyler Palco.

Speaker 8 Fuck that guy.

Speaker 10 I'm going to say number one was the 2014 Jaguars because they were just rebuilding to come up and almost win the AFC Championship game in a couple of years.

Speaker 8 That was not Tyler Palco.

Speaker 10 It was not? No.

Speaker 8 Because they didn't play the Bears that year. And I remember Tyler Palco.

Speaker 8 Oh, Orton was on that team. Okay.

Speaker 8 This is, yeah. All right.
Who was the other teams? That wasn't the Tyler Palco game. I think it was Brady Quinn.

Speaker 8 And then 2010 Panthers. 2010 Panthers.

Speaker 10 Who was the... Was that

Speaker 8 2010 Panthers? This is terrible that we're.

Speaker 10 Oh, that was...

Speaker 10 What's his name?

Speaker 8 Matt Barkley.

Speaker 8 Jimmy Clausen. Jimmy Clausen.

Speaker 10 Jimmy Clausen.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and what's his name? He still has to retire, Todd McShare or Mel Kuyper. Yeah.
He still has to retire.

Speaker 8 He said Jimmy Clausen was going to be. So those.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So the Jaguars this year are the seventh one in 10 team in the last decade. Oh, the best.

Speaker 8 The bottom line is

Speaker 10 Jaguars have a one in 10 dynasty in the last 10 years.

Speaker 8 We can figure this out.

Speaker 8 What did those teams end up? Stand by. Okay.
Because that would be the easiest way to figure it out, right? Yep. Like, if one of those teams ended up 4-12, they have to be the best team.

Speaker 10 The Kansas City was 2-14.

Speaker 8 They were 2-14. Yep.
All right. So that's an interesting debate.
Where did you think you'd get that type of debate? Nowhere else. Sports Pope.
Yep. Great fucking debate.

Speaker 8 2017-49 or the end of the season winning five in a row. There you go.

Speaker 8 All right. So that was the first one.
You're wrong, Michael Princess. They started one in 10 and finished six in 10.
You are wrong, Michael.

Speaker 8 That's the best one in 10 team of all time. 2017-49.

Speaker 10 I don't think it's impossible for a team to be better than that.

Speaker 8 You can't. You cannot be a better one in the team.
That's the same tied. Yeah.
That's all right. So they were the Bears.

Speaker 10 The 72 Dolphins.

Speaker 8 What year was that? 2017. It was 20 J.
Beathard, Brian Hoyer, and Jimmy G.

Speaker 8 Jimmy G was the first one. Oh, that was Shanahan's.

Speaker 8 Was that his first year? Shanahan was the head coach.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that was his first year when he started to put it all together.

Speaker 8 I actually remember that. Oh, my God.

Speaker 8 That Bears 49ers game was in the snow. It was so fucking funny.
It was 15 to 14, the finals. It was so bad.

Speaker 10 I bet you you can go back in time to old part of my takes and listen to us talk about that 49ers team. I think at the time we were even saying, this is a

Speaker 10 shitty team. Yeah.
Because that's the year that they played the Rams in a Thursday night football game that everybody thought was going to suck. and it ended up being a shootout.

Speaker 10 We were like, damn, this team's really good for this. Yes.
So, yeah, Mike Francesa doesn't always.

Speaker 8 You're wrong, Mike Francesa. Did Dalopolo take over at the back end of the season? What a debate.
Yeah. Wow.
Wow, that was fun.

Speaker 10 Are we like actually doing sports now?

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah, no.
I mean, well, that was, I mean, he a great thought starter. One of the best one in 10 teams of all time.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that game. Oh, fuck.
I remember that game. Everyone was slipping around.
That game sucked. All right.

Speaker 8 Let's see. Where are we? Oh, Brown Jaguars.
Mike Lennon wasn't terrible. He was pretty bad.

Speaker 8 He was pretty bad, but he was like, he looked like he had played quarterback before, whereas Jake Lutton, maybe not.

Speaker 10 And then after the game, they fired Dave Caldwell, their general manager, which that can't be a comforting thing for Doug Marone to go home and raise.

Speaker 8 But Doug, I think Doug.

Speaker 8 He's cool with it. He knew at the start.

Speaker 10 He's cool with it. This is how it's going to go.

Speaker 8 My next question is that they're letting him do it.

Speaker 10 Why did they fire him right now? I guess

Speaker 10 they want to hire a new guy to look for the next Doug?

Speaker 8 Yeah, fresh blood, too. That feels good.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they want the first pick where everyone was going to want to go to the Jaguars.

Speaker 8 Also, credit to Jarvis Landry. I feel like Jarvis Landry sometimes gets lumped in with Odell Beckham.
But Jarvis Landry, going back to remember Hard Knox when he talked about changing the culture,

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 he had a huge game. He's a dependable guy.
Like,

Speaker 8 he has changed the culture in Cleveland. So he should get a shout-out for that.

Speaker 10 Cleveland, again, they're 8-3. What else can you say? They're an 8-3 football team in Cleveland.
You should be extremely happy about that.

Speaker 8 It is also fucking awesome watching Nick Chubb when he gets a block and you're just like, oh, here he goes. And it just...

Speaker 8 Some teams just make running the ball sexy. The Browns are one of those teams.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's because they've got a beast offensive line coach.

Speaker 8 Turned you on.

Speaker 8 Wait, he's not the offensive line coach. No, Bill Callahan.
Oh, I thought you were talking about what's the name? Oh, no, no, no. Tony Wiley.
Yeah, yeah. No.

Speaker 10 Fuck.

Speaker 8 Can we think? think? Bob Wiley. Bob Wiley.
Bob Wiley. Bob Wiley.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 Bill Callahan is the best offensive line coach in the NFL, and he is the Browns head coach. Yes.
Or the Browns offensive line coach.

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Speaker 10 Okay, I'm hearing a report right now that Aaron Rodgers is back to doing his southern accent after the game. Pew.
I don't know why he picked that up, where he picked that up from.

Speaker 10 If it's a Danica Patrick thing where he wanted to sound like a NASCAR driver for...

Speaker 8 Gross.

Speaker 10 Gave up the run.

Speaker 8 Saints Broncos.

Speaker 8 Kendall Hinton. 1 for 9, 13 yards.
That sucked. I don't know why the NFL did that to them.
I don't know why we can move all these games. They don't move this game.
That sucked.

Speaker 8 But here's something. And I don't want to be mean to Ryan Leaf.
He has been on this show before, but Kendall Hinton, that wasn't the worst performance.

Speaker 8 Ryan Leaf had a game in 1998 where he went one for 15 for four yards.

Speaker 10 And Kendall went, what, one for

Speaker 10 nine for 13 yards, but he had more interception yards than passing yards, and he had twice as many interceptions as he did completions. He had one completion today.

Speaker 8 This game was essentially, if you ever wondered, like, hey, what would it look like if Army and Navy played with NFL uniforms on? Well, this was the game for you.

Speaker 8 it was kind of like that 77 runs 77 runs and taysom hill was nine for 16 for 78 yards so less than 100 yards passing total and 77 runs yeah it was tough and then billy was saying that if we got into it bill you were saying that you could do better than than hinton no which is not because it's not true no if there was like Like a lot of under routes, check down.

Speaker 8 Well, that's, you know what's crazy? They didn't do that. Yeah.
Like it was crazy. They came out and they just started bombing it.

Speaker 8 I don't know, understand why they didn't try to give him a bunch of, maybe because they thought, well, the defense is going to be all the way up anyway.

Speaker 8 But it was weird that they didn't give him some, like, bubble screens.

Speaker 10 That's Pat Shermer's offense. He was just like, you know what, we're going to do what we do.

Speaker 8 Dude, even the pop pass so he can get a completion to look like it.

Speaker 10 Play action. I mean, Dugues, the intern for Barcelona, he was saying, like, yeah, I was a play-action quarterback in high school.

Speaker 10 So I was like, so you're just good at hitting wide-open receivers in short.

Speaker 8 You burned them. You burned them.
so i was like why didn't they do that type of stuff well because the i mean they didn't actually think that he was gonna throw he only threw it nine times

Speaker 10 but like they could have well yeah they ran the army off but billy would have threw it when they had to throw so billy thinks that he could complete a bunch of like screens check downs some crossing routes some unders.

Speaker 10 The thing is, I think that

Speaker 10 I think that me and Big Cat could actually be a better NFL quarterback right now than you would right now. Because you are good enough to think that you can complete passes.

Speaker 10 Me and Big Cat would not even try to complete a pass.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 10 We would just self-sack, just run backwards.

Speaker 8 I would just do shovel passes.

Speaker 10 Yeah, maybe a pop pass here and there. I might punt.

Speaker 8 Med call shovel pass.

Speaker 8 Matt Ryan did a two-handed shovel pass today. I do that.
Can I say, I did not appreciate the Tim Tebow slander. Oh, the Broncos have played before without a quarterback before.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's all the Big J's thought they were being clever. No.
So who?

Speaker 8 Did I saw

Speaker 8 that joke?

Speaker 10 I don't think so. Everybody made that joke.

Speaker 8 I saw a handful. Everyone did.

Speaker 10 You know, Elway thought about playing for a second.

Speaker 8 Well, they tried to get a coach to play.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they're tried to get a coach to play.

Speaker 10 They should have let

Speaker 10 their quality control wide receivers coach or whatever. They should have let him try to get in.
Bortles, the bottom line is Blake Bortles should have been in a bubble this entire time. Correct.

Speaker 10 Like we suggested

Speaker 10 before the season even started. Yes.
This is why you signed a Blake Bortles. Of course, if you have him in your facility, he's a social butterfly.
Everybody loves him.

Speaker 10 If one person in your facility has COVID or tests positive, you know that Blake's going to get it because he's everyone's best friend. It's not his friend.

Speaker 10 So you need to just keep him isolated, keep him in a bubble. He would have gone out there and probably beat the Saints.

Speaker 8 Yeah. This game was crazy, though.
I mean, it is nuts that they can move all these games and then the Broncos don't have a quarterback and they're like, yep, we're going to play.

Speaker 8 Under the rules, we're going to play.

Speaker 10 It is. It's insane that they are playing this game when they backed up other games beforehand.

Speaker 10 And the NFL just needs to know that when it comes to every quarterback being out, I know you have a protocol, and a protocol, as far as I know, is just a rule to limit things that dumb people think that you should do.

Speaker 10 But there should be an exception when your entire quarterback room is tested positive or they're being isolated, and you should be allowed to bring in a swag Kelly for a game.

Speaker 10 You should be allowed to bring back a Tim Tebow.

Speaker 10 Just give us something that we want to see to make it more interesting than having Kendall Hinton go out there and just like, I mean,

Speaker 10 he wasn't even good enough to be be a starting quarterback at Wake Forest.

Speaker 8 No, dude, you know what they should actually do? They should have Eli Manning in a bubble for the entire year and he's all-time quarterback. If you need him, he's there.
Yeah. That would be awesome.

Speaker 8 Who wouldn't want to see Eli go back out there for one more game? I would loved it. It'd be like, Eli, none of your bad stats count against you.
All your good stats count.

Speaker 8 So like literally, past completions count, incompletions don't. Interceptions don't.
Touchdowns do.

Speaker 10 I like before the game that the team Twitter account was like, let's go out there and have fun today, Broncos.

Speaker 8 Unbelievable. I mean, it's unbelievable.
It's, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 10 Real football guys don't enjoy having fun. It's crazy.

Speaker 10 You know what's fun? Making somebody else not have fun.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So the Saints are also, though, like, you can't judge them off this game, but they are peaking at the right time. Taysom Hill is doing a good job in Drew Brees absence.
I have a stat for you, PFT.

Speaker 10 I hate to say this stat.

Speaker 8 Some people will say I'm being biased. Some people will say

Speaker 8 I have an axe to grind. This is just a stat, though.
Statistics don't lie.

Speaker 8 Would you say that?

Speaker 10 I'd say numbers never lie.

Speaker 8 Numbers never lie. So my stat is simple.

Speaker 8 Drew Brees has missed seven games in the last two years.

Speaker 8 The Broncos are, or sorry, the Saints are 7-0.

Speaker 8 But more importantly, they are 7-0 against the spread.

Speaker 10 But the Saints don't lose against the spread in October.

Speaker 8 Well, they are 7-0 against the spread without Drew Brees. Okay.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Seems like they're pretty good when Drew Brees isn't out there.

Speaker 10 When he has a shoulder injury.

Speaker 8 Ribs. When he has a shoulder injury.
All his ribs. He just broke another rib.
Yep.

Speaker 10 Thoughts and prayers. Oh, just another one.
After the game, Vic Fangio said, I was disappointed on several levels that our QBs put us in that position, that our QBs put the league in that position.

Speaker 10 We counted them to be leaders of our team, the leaders of our offense, and those guys made a mistake.

Speaker 8 Well, it was Jeff Driskell who did this, right?

Speaker 10 Jeff Driskell, Drew Locke.

Speaker 10 Who else?

Speaker 3 I mean, Blake.

Speaker 8 No, it wasn't wasn't Blake.

Speaker 10 Blake was doing his job.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it wasn't his fault.

Speaker 10 It was not his fault. Oh, Rippin, that Rippin' guy.
Yeah, Rippin. That beat the Jets.

Speaker 8 Way to go, Rippin. He fucking ruined it for everyone.

Speaker 8 All right, next game. 49ers Rams.

Speaker 8 Kyle Shanahan owns Sean McVay. Four in a row against Sean McVay.
Sweep this year when he's got no one to play.

Speaker 8 Kyle Shanahan is such a good fucking coach. Like, the fact that the 49ers actually could make the playoffs, and it's a long shot.
They're five and six, but Kyle Shanahan is such a goddamn good coach.

Speaker 8 Even he has them ready to go, scheming them up. He's got a million injuries, a million different running backs, different quarterbacks, different secondary.
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 8 They're competitive, and he owns Sean McVay.

Speaker 10 Even when they're bad, they look good. They look like they've got that spark there.

Speaker 8 So, yeah.

Speaker 10 Kyle Shanahan, great offensive coach, great. I mean, for some reason, his defense also plays exceedingly.
It might be like complimentary football

Speaker 10 at times, but I thought, like, when Richard Sherman went to San Francisco, I thought, okay, he's going to be washed up.

Speaker 10 And he was like playing on that prove-it-deal that he wrote for himself on the back of a napkin. But even Richard Sherman has played pretty decently.

Speaker 8 I actually wrote down Robert Sala, like, now is the time that we start talking about him again.

Speaker 8 I know hiring defensive coordinators isn't cool anymore, but Robert Salah, let me tell you something that is cool.

Speaker 8 He's on the top of my list of dudes that will headbutt one of his players after a big play while they're wearing their helmet. Yep.
He's up there. He's a fucking jacked up type of dude.

Speaker 10 He brings the inner, you know what he brings is he brings the juice.

Speaker 8 He brings the juice. Bring your own guts.
So yeah, if you're

Speaker 10 there will be a there will be a head coach or a general manager that looks to go the defensive route this offseason, and they should hire Salah.

Speaker 10 I think that he's clearly the best defensive coordinator.

Speaker 8 And I don't know what to make.

Speaker 8 The Rams offense, when it doesn't work, just falls apart. And then Aaron Donald, like, this is why Aaron Donald is Aaron Donald, is the Rams' offense was bad today.
And then all in

Speaker 8 a two-minute stretch, Aaron Donald basically changes the game with a hit, forced fumble, touchdown, and then a sack on the next drive that leads to a touchdown. Like, that's why he's Aaron Donald.

Speaker 8 Like, he can actually just completely change a game in like two minutes from his position.

Speaker 10 And when you have a great tackle blocking him, sometimes it looks like it's a tight end trying to block Aaron Donald. Yeah.

Speaker 10 He's just a terrifying player to go one-up against.

Speaker 8 So I guess this was kind of not a to-be-expected, but it does make sense. Like, the Rams lost to a division opponent off of a big win.
Do you think,

Speaker 8 like, is there any shine coming off the Rams as a dark horse they could contend? The NFC is so fucking wide open.

Speaker 10 I think, no, so I don't even look at this as that much of a knock against the Rams.

Speaker 8 Sean McVay's owned by Kyle Shannon.

Speaker 10 Because the 49ers are a really well-coached team.

Speaker 8 And they're 4-2 on the road. Sean McVay is going to be so scared to just reply to any of Kyle Shanahan's texts or talk to him.

Speaker 10 He's stealing something from me. Yeah, maybe he's got, like, he's actually tapped you.

Speaker 8 He's got you tapped. He's got your house tapped.

Speaker 8 All right. Finally, we'll get to Deion, and then

Speaker 8 we'll finish up with some football guy of the week and some baby Braun.

Speaker 8 Chiefs, Bucs,

Speaker 8 who boy, Patrick Mahomes. Turns out he's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 10 It's still the first quarter of that game right now. It lasted so long.
Tyreek Hill had like 200 yards receiving in the first quarter. Could not be stopped.

Speaker 10 I think he had like 60 fantasy points in the first quarter. Yeah.
It was insane what they were doing.

Speaker 10 And Tony Romo sort of joke around saying that Tyreek Hill could have a thousand yards receiving in a game. I actually think that Patrick Mahomes could throw 4,000 yards over the course of a game.

Speaker 10 That might be a different conversation, but I actually think that it could be done.

Speaker 8 Yes,

Speaker 8 I actually agree with you. I hate to do this to myself, but Patrick Mahomes had 359 yards passing in the first half.

Speaker 8 The Chicago Bears have had that once in a game since 2015.

Speaker 8 Yeah. That's fucking stupid.
He makes it look easy. He makes it look so easy.

Speaker 10 But Gat, do you think that you could throw a football a thousand yards during the course of an NFL game?

Speaker 10 So I'm saying, like, as this game is going on, you're out on a football field on your own, but you can only throw the football while the clock's running in the game.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 10 A thousand yards. Yeah.

Speaker 8 That's.

Speaker 8 I mean, you could. Wait, do you have to go get it? Yeah, yeah, you'd know.
You could throw it.

Speaker 10 So you'd have to go, you'd throw the ball like 20 yards, then you'd jog up to the ball, get the ball, throw it 20 more yards, and keep going like that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, dude, you're not doing the math right. That's 33 throws.

Speaker 10 20 yards, 33 throws?

Speaker 8 No, 30 yards. I can throw 30.
30 yards. You can throw it farther than 20.
30 yards. 33 throws? Yes, with the running? Yeah.

Speaker 8 You absolutely could do that.

Speaker 8 Without a doubt.

Speaker 10 He gets so tired.

Speaker 8 No, he's not going to be able to do it. Without a doubt.

Speaker 10 Here's actually a crazy thing.

Speaker 8 What are you talking about? That's That's like, how many game minutes are there in an NFL game?

Speaker 10 There are 60.

Speaker 8 No, no, I know, but like you're saying actually

Speaker 8 while the clock's running, or are you saying while there's action?

Speaker 10 Because you know how there's so then there's 11 minutes. Yeah, so that's what I was talking about.

Speaker 8 Okay, well, that's what you're talking about.

Speaker 10 During plays. Yes.

Speaker 8 Still could do it.

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yes. That would be an interesting test.
Now, here's a fun stat. Do you know who has the most passing yards ever in an NFL game?

Speaker 8 Bless you, Billy.

Speaker 10 Who? Norm Van Brocklin.

Speaker 8 That sounded like broccoli.

Speaker 10 In 1951, he had 554 yards.

Speaker 8 That's the record?

Speaker 10 That's crazy that that record has not been broken in an NFL game.

Speaker 8 Yeah. How is that the record? I thought someone had it.
Really?

Speaker 10 Yeah, they probably burned him at the stake after that game in 1951 as a witch.

Speaker 8 Excuse him.

Speaker 10 He was playing against... a bunch of white defensive backs, so it was probably really easy for him.

Speaker 8 554 is the record. I never would have guessed that.

Speaker 8 That feels crazy. Matt Schaub had 527 yards.

Speaker 10 1951. Alaska and Hawaii weren't even states.
And that's when the NFL passing record.

Speaker 8 Derek Carr has 513 yards. I was seeing that game.
You break it down. All 22.

Speaker 8 Yeah. What do you make of the Bucs, though? Because they are now, they went 6-2, and now they're 1-3.

Speaker 8 And I'm not going to put it all on Antonio Brown, but they're 1-3 since they brought in Antonio Brown.

Speaker 10 I mean, again, that's just a stat.

Speaker 10 Gronk looks good. Tom Brady,

Speaker 10 like, it alternates plays for him sometimes. He can look like the worst quarterback in the league on one play and then like a top five guy on the very next one.

Speaker 8 Well, do you know, it's, it, is it, like, it's Bruce Arians. Bruce Arians' offense, they throw picks.
I don't know. I just, it's crazy to me that you got Tom Brady.
You have a championship window.

Speaker 8 You have all these guys. Why wouldn't you let Tom Brady just be Tom Brady? Just be like, Tom Brady, you run the offense.
You know the offense. Let's stop going deep all the time.

Speaker 8 Just fucking, let's do it.

Speaker 10 Let's run the offense. That would make a lot more sense.

Speaker 8 Make a lot of sense. I'd feel a lot better about the Bucs chances if that were the case, but it's not the case.
Bruce Arians, like everyone who plays for Bruce Arians throws interceptions.

Speaker 8 That's just how it goes.

Speaker 10 Especially in year one, right? Year one is the interception year where you get it all out of your system.

Speaker 8 So I, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 8 I don't trust the Bucs. I don't, I like, it seems like they're running out of time to like figure it out.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 Like one of those teams where you keep saying to yourself, oh, they'll figure it out. They'll get it together.
They'll figure it out. And it's just not going to happen.

Speaker 10 I do want to put one in Tyran Matthews' ear hole, though. I love Tyran Matthew.
I'm a big honey badger guy. He's one of the most electric players to watch on defense, has a nose for the football.

Speaker 10 He had an interception today, and he slid instead of getting tackled by Tom Brady.

Speaker 10 He slid at Tom Brady's. Beta move.
I don't know if that was showing respect for Tom Brady. It was not a good thing.

Speaker 8 You can't do that.

Speaker 10 You've got to try to truck stick Tom Brady. You have to,

Speaker 8 you have to.

Speaker 10 There's no excuse for that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and the Chiefs are starting to round in a form at the perfect time. Are they going to go 15 and one?

Speaker 8 Are they going to go 15 and one? Maybe. Broncos win at Dolphins, probably win.
Ooh, Saints.

Speaker 8 At Saints week 15.

Speaker 8 That will be back for a great game. Well, if he is, then the Saints will lose.
Yeah. And if he isn't, good job.

Speaker 10 I actually think that the Dolphins might beat him.

Speaker 8 I don't know, man. I don't know.
The Chiefs, they just.

Speaker 8 the Chiefs are one of those teams now where,

Speaker 8 and it was weird. This game was actually weird because

Speaker 8 it felt like they were going to win by 100, and then they let the Bucs come all the way back in. Shadow Am had Bucs plus three and a half.

Speaker 8 But the Chiefs do feel like a light switch team where they could be down. It's like, all right, let's flip it, and we'll win.
And it will be good.

Speaker 10 Always, because

Speaker 10 you can figure out a way to get Tyreek Hill the ball. Just throw it to him.
And then he just runs faster than anybody else.

Speaker 8 Like that they threw for an ice. They iced the clock with a pass that never in your mind was in doubt.
Right. Like, that's, oh, that's the perfect play.
They can do that. It's crazy to watch.

Speaker 8 And playing a different sport.

Speaker 10 And then after the game, we have to give an update on this because Tom Brady picks and chooses who he shakes hands with after the game. Uh-oh.

Speaker 10 He did shake Patrick Mahomes' hand, but I saw a tweet that said that he was not wearing a mask when he did so. Uh-oh.
So Brady might be trying to get Mahomes sick.

Speaker 10 And he just respects Nick Foles so much that he doesn't want to risk transmitting anything to him. That's why he's going to be a good idea.
And Jerry Goff. And Jerry Goff.

Speaker 10 That's why he sprints off the field instead of acknowledging him. Yes.
But I do love those weekly updates on whether or not Tom Brady shook somebody's hand. It's fantastic.

Speaker 8 All right. Let's get to Dion before we get to Dion.

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Speaker 8 Okay, it is that time of the week. We have our good friend Coach Prime on the show.
Week 12 in the books. A few things we got to talk about.
So I'll go chronologically the story from the early slate.

Speaker 8 What the fuck happened to the Raiders?

Speaker 8 And do you think that this is a derailment that's going to, you know, they were the team that everyone said, watch out for the Raiders after they went toe-to-toe with the Chiefs and they get punked by the Falcons.

Speaker 8 What do you make of that? I didn't have enough guts to pick the Falcons, and I think I said that on the football football show, but I really felt good about them. The Raiders' defense is hot garbage.

Speaker 8 I mean, hot garbage. Hot garbage, like straight out the microwave.
And you know that. One thing about the Falcons, they have an offense offense that's impeccable.
They're pretty darn good.

Speaker 8 They could score on anybody. They just can't stop no darnbody.
And they had the advantage of a home game. And the Raiders are down the middle of the road.

Speaker 8 They're really not that good, but they put up a fight. They play hard every week.
But defensively, they ain't going nowhere with that bulljunk, man.

Speaker 10 Well, they got Raheem Morris, and he's coached him to 4-2 down in Atlanta. Do you think that there's a chance that they keep Raheem around after the season's over as the full-time head coach?

Speaker 8 Nope. It's a good question, though.
I would love them to. I would love them to.
If you went out,

Speaker 8 it's going to be a concern.

Speaker 8 You really got to make that decision. But

Speaker 8 I don't think they will.

Speaker 8 I would love them to because I think he's had experience. He got a raw deal there in Tampa, and he's a good guy.

Speaker 10 The only reason I kind of agree with that, although I feel like he's definitely played himself or coached himself into consideration.

Speaker 10 But if you have an owner like Arthur Blank, your last hire was a defensive guy, you're probably going to go with an offensive guy because you're like, well, last time it didn't work out, so I'll just do the opposite of what I did before.

Speaker 8 Well, they need a defensive guy, they do need a defensive guy. Um, or you need a honestly, man, if they could somewhere, somehow convince a guy like Rex Ryan to come out and take over the defense,

Speaker 8 they would be phenomenal. Oh, you need a real defensive mind to do something with that defense.
That's the kind of guy that you need.

Speaker 8 So, uh, one last note on this game, and we've had this disagreement before, but Derek Carr fumbled three times. He has small hands, small, really small.
He has small hands. You gotta stop.

Speaker 8 He has small hands. He's got like kitten mittens.
You don't care about that?

Speaker 10 Stubs.

Speaker 8 We had this whole talk about small hands.

Speaker 8 First of all, what is a small hand?

Speaker 8 What is really a small hand? Below nine inches. Is there a certain size that says small hands, or does it the look of a small hand? It's nine inches or smaller.

Speaker 8 You know what small hands look like.

Speaker 8 I've shaken a couple of small hands before, but I don't really know what a small hand looks like. I know what it feels like.
I don't know what it looks like. It's science, though.
It's not like...

Speaker 8 I don't know if you're not sure that a quarterback can't throw and he's fumbling because he has a small hand. I've never heard that.
I do

Speaker 8 guys, certain guys, like Aaron Rodgers, for example. Aaron Rodgers, he'll get hit and the ball will just be stuck in his hand because he has big fucking hands.

Speaker 8 I do think. I think that's not so sad.
I think there's a little small part of it.

Speaker 8 No pun intended with the small, but Derek Carr been playing great this year, but in terms of ball security, and we'll have our stats guy pull up some stats for you, but in terms of ball security, that is an issue.

Speaker 8 So, do Carson Wentz have big hands? Because his ball security is hot garbage. I know, yeah.
He just thinks Derek Carr has fumbled 60 times

Speaker 8 in his 104 games, 28 lost, 60.

Speaker 8 That's a lot of fumble. He's got a small brain.

Speaker 10 That's different. There are different parts of your body that can be small that adversely affect your ability to play football.

Speaker 10 But there is something like you don't, you think that for the last like 50 years, they've been looking at hand size just because they're like they have no idea what they're doing?

Speaker 8 Fetish? Do you think they got fetishes? They might have hand size.

Speaker 8 They're addicted to hand size. I've never seen a guy not get drafted because of his hand size.

Speaker 8 I've never seen a guy not get drafted because he didn't run the three-cone drill right. It's like some stupid stuff that they do at the combine.

Speaker 8 I've never seen a guy not get drafted because he convinced 225, five times. Never seen it.
It's just some of the dumb stuff that they do in the NFL. I agree with you.

Speaker 8 I do not think if a guy's good, who cares how big his hands are? But there is

Speaker 8 a concern with the fumbles, and that is directly correlated with his hand size. Whatever.
I'm right. You're wrong.
It's fine. Let's move on to a different game.

Speaker 8 What do you make of the Tennessee Titans? Tractor Cito. So

Speaker 8 we've been talking about it for years, but Derrick Henry gets better as the season goes along. Is there something to be said for a defense later in the season?

Speaker 8 Maybe it's November, December, your body's banged up, you just don't really want to tackle him the same way. Is there something about him getting better as the season goes on?

Speaker 8 You know, we just interviewed him on the segment I call Give Me Five. We just took five minutes from him this weekend, and he came on 21st of the Prime.

Speaker 8 And this guy here, man, I think he's a phenomenon. I really think he is a treasure in the NFL that's underappreciated because he is consistent as it comes.
He's no, he's going to get

Speaker 8 in the box. Everybody's going to be outside man-to-man.
So he's making the whole team better. Receivers got to win.
You got one-on-ones on the during outside.

Speaker 8 But they are really doing. But this team is so unpredictable.
The defense is not as good as it was last year. So they're in the middle of the road.
I did not pick them to win.

Speaker 8 But had I known Derrick Henry was going for a buck 78,

Speaker 8 you cannot rush for 178 yards to lose. They don't even go together.

Speaker 8 He is unbelievable.

Speaker 10 He does look like he's been running harder the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 10 I don't know if the defenses, like Big Cat says, are getting tired later on in the year or if he just finds that next gear as the weather gets a little bit colder. But

Speaker 10 people don't want to tackle Derrick Henry anymore. And we saw the exact same thing last year.
So I think it's probably going to continue.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think it will, too. And I told him that had he and I played against each other, I would have formed tackling him.
You would have

Speaker 8 set that piss forward.

Speaker 8 Yes, I would have.

Speaker 10 You would have dove at his shoelaces and he would have calmly stepped over you like Alan Iverson over Tyron.

Speaker 8 When I really told him that he he would have never done me like Josh Norman because we would have never got in this situation. But no, but seriously, this is an honest question.

Speaker 8 Being in a locker room, I mean, you were on good teams. But no, maybe when you were on the Falcons, if you get to later in the season, is there a mentality?

Speaker 8 It's not talked about, but is there a mentality of like, fuck, I don't really want to tackle this guy anymore? No. Like, we saw.

Speaker 8 Only thing that was a phenomenon when I was with the Falcons, we were hot garbage early in my career, we call it bowling.

Speaker 8 Okay, what bowling means is we want, you know how when somebody can't bowl, they put the the rails up on the sides

Speaker 8 so the ball can stay in bounds. Yep.

Speaker 8 So what we did, everybody stood on the edge of the field on the sideline was we didn't want nobody to go out of bounds because we wanted the game to be over as soon as possible, especially in the winter.

Speaker 8 I like that. I love that.

Speaker 8 What about so we went bowling?

Speaker 8 Keep the clock running.

Speaker 10 What about the Bills game? So the Buffalo Bills, they won, but they have an issue that they need to address at some point, which is they do not know how to defend against a Hail Mary.

Speaker 10 They gave up two catches on a Hail Mary today. One of them counted.
The other was pass interference. And then obviously the DeAndre Hopkins from a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 10 As a defensive back, I mean, I probably shouldn't ask you this because I skied above you and caught a ball over your head a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 8 But what was your mentality?

Speaker 10 Well, there's film out there where you can watch if you want to, but what was your mentality?

Speaker 10 in defending against like an end-of-game situation where it's a Hail Mary?

Speaker 8 First of all, I've made the defensive back coach put me in the back, in the middle, so I could get the ball, intercept, and run all the way back. I was not taking the knee.

Speaker 8 Second of all, if you got defensive backs that cannot, are not ball savvy. Most defensive backs were bad receivers early on.

Speaker 8 What I would do, I would take the receivers and put them in the back three all the way across the goal line and let those guys who are normally known for catching the Durant football go catch the Durant football.

Speaker 8 Yeah. That's what I would do.
That's the kind of coach you got right now at Jackson State.

Speaker 10 I think it's a decent strategy unless they do the thing that the Dolphins did

Speaker 10 and then you're stuck in a situation where your tight end is now your free safety, then you're kind of fucked.

Speaker 8 I would not put Grunk, my tight end, back there.

Speaker 8 No reason. All right.
Biggest game of Sunday, the Bucs and the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 What the hell do you do to stop? Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill. That was insane.
He had 13 catches, 269 yards, three touchdowns. Patrick Mahomes had 300 yards in the first half.
What do you do?

Speaker 8 What do you do to try to stop them? Doubling. You're doubling.

Speaker 8 Everybody else got got a man up you doubling and they doubling you put somebody in his face bump him and double him that's all you have to do so i double him take him out of the game and say he's not going to beat you if anybody let travis kelsey beat you man it's a slow death that way you don't want to have an expedition death with this guy being and i feel sorry you know i'm a defensive back of defensive backs 24 i don't even know his name right now but i feel bad for him man straight up like i guarantee his phone was ringing off the hook of blowing up with memes and everything because it was his birth we call it birthday.

Speaker 8 Like when I'm coaching right now and I coach the office, like I did last night, if I see a vulnerable cornerback, all I do is say birthday, birthday, rap, birthday, rabbit.

Speaker 8 It means we're going to blow him out like a candle to the right side. And that's what they get today.
So they bless that kid, man. I feel bad for him.

Speaker 10 Walk me through this from a defensive perspective because I always say, like, it's really easy to say, like, oh, wow, if you're playing against the Bucs, for example, you got to double-team Gronk, you got to double-team Mike Evans, you got to double-team Antonio.

Speaker 10 You have to double-team everybody. How many guys can you actually double-team during one single play?

Speaker 8 Two. We played, we played uh, the bikinis years ago when I was with the Cowboys.
We had a double-double. You got to understand, they had Chris Carter, Randy Moss, and they had Jake Reed.

Speaker 8 We double-doubled, then I manned up Jake Reed alone, which was a great scheme. Uh, we lost, but it wasn't, it wasn't the defensive fault because we played an adequate game that week.

Speaker 8 But you could probably double up to two guys.

Speaker 8 What's the stat line if you go one-on-one with Tyreek Hill?

Speaker 8 I'm prime.

Speaker 8 So does he catch? I mean, he's got to catch something. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 You can't even ask me that. I'm prime.
He doesn't beat you deep. No, no, no.
I'm prime.

Speaker 10 So 50 yards, no touchdowns.

Speaker 8 I'm prime. I don't think you guys understand.
You would lock him down.

Speaker 10 I got two jackets. Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 8 Zero catches zero yards.

Speaker 8 I got a red jacket for the NFL was 100. And I got a gold jacket for the Hall of Fame.
You can't even ask me stuff like that. I'm prime.

Speaker 8 I got three jackets in the closet, and I didn't buy either of them.

Speaker 10 So,

Speaker 10 you never gave up a big game to anybody.

Speaker 8 What was the big game? What was the worst game you ever had?

Speaker 8 Atlanta.

Speaker 8 What was the worst stat line against you?

Speaker 8 I'm going to look this up. We didn't really go into stat lines that way.

Speaker 8 It wasn't much. We didn't keep track of that.

Speaker 8 We didn't even look at it. No, it wasn't like that back then.
Randy Moss never got you?

Speaker 8 No, he never blessed me with a birthday.

Speaker 8 A lot of stat lines are deceptive, but like right now, they really have it where you, when you were one-on-one with that guy, I played against guys and they had 100, but they didn't have 100 when I was guarding them.

Speaker 8 Like,

Speaker 8 a lot of times, like when we played against the Cowboys, when I was with

Speaker 8 Sam Fran, when we played Zone,

Speaker 8 I went to

Speaker 8 I played regular, either side. We played man.

Speaker 8 I went to Harper and they doubled Mike because Alvin Harper used to eat them alive back in the day. So we doubled Mike.

Speaker 8 I took Harper and Merton Hanks took

Speaker 8 Novichek. And it was over.

Speaker 8 I'm reading right now.

Speaker 8 Jerry Rice did have his 225-yard five-touchdown game against the Falcons.

Speaker 8 It wasn't me. It wasn't me, though.
He watched the whole film. It wasn't me.

Speaker 8 Matter of fact, I really felt bad because the other corner they want to switch, that's the Charles Demery game. I think Jerry scored five touchdowns that game.
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 8 That's basically what Tyreek Hill did today.

Speaker 8 Oh, my God. It's sad.
You want to call timeout for him and say, man, let me come over there and cover. No, I got it.
No, you don't.

Speaker 10 Were you mad at Jerry Rice when he didn't shake your hand before that play? Because you really put your arm out there.

Speaker 8 You're like, hey, Damien.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that was like... Botchers, like last night before the fight.
And then, you guys, I saw your commentary on the fight last night. Matter of fact, I can't not wait to get to that this week.

Speaker 8 Matter of fact, I need to come on your show. You need to come on ours because we got to talk about that fight.
Nate Robinson.

Speaker 8 Oh, we got to talk about that. That was bad.

Speaker 8 Was it worth it?

Speaker 8 I'd say no. I would say no.
Not worth it. Maybe it's fresh.

Speaker 8 Maybe it's too fresh. Like,

Speaker 8 my daughter's sitting here right now,

Speaker 8 my grown daughter. And I know for a fact that if it happened to me, she would not look at me the same.
No, you can't. Yeah, no, you can't do it.

Speaker 8 At some point, it's just not even worth it because even if he won, like,

Speaker 8 what's the upside? It's not as much as the downside. Yeah.
You can't get knocked out. But the downside,

Speaker 8 like, the way it ended, it's no way you can encourage your kid now and say, come on, son, you can't give up. You got to fight through it.
Fight through it, dad. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 8 That was bad. That was very, very bad.

Speaker 8 That was very, very bad.

Speaker 8 I feel bad for him.

Speaker 10 Yes. Dion, you and I have a little bit of beef, too, because you came at me on Thanksgiving Day,

Speaker 10 the highest of holidays, as far as I'm concerned. You had an issue.

Speaker 8 What did I do?

Speaker 10 You had an issue with my macaroni and cheese, my old family recipe that I make.

Speaker 10 The mayo and bread crumb mixture.

Speaker 8 You don't need cheese. That was not macaroni and cheese.
It's just strictly mayo. Macaroni and cheese.
Did you see how it turned out? Macaroni and cheese.

Speaker 10 Because it turned out pretty good.

Speaker 8 It was almost white.

Speaker 8 The macaroni and cheese was almost white and it wasn't in cheese.

Speaker 10 What was it? It was macaroni, bread crumbs and mayonnaise mayonnaise yeah the holy trinity i guarantee you as soon as you ate that you were straight to the toilet

Speaker 10 what you didn't see though was the after pick

Speaker 8 after i added five different types of cheese to it andy reed style and then baked a whole mess of macaroni direct deposit to the toilet right after you made that yep i was all plugged up all right my last question for you dion uh the back to that bucks chiefs game what like at what point is it too late for the for the bucks to kind of figure it out on offense because it just looks looks clunky and it looks like it's not like is there, can they at some point this season, can Tom Brady walk into Bruce Arians' offense and be like, let me just do it.

Speaker 8 Let me, let me run the thing that I did in New England. Like, let's, let's stop throwing it deep all the time.
Let me beat Tom Brady and it will win. Can he do that or is it too late?

Speaker 8 I saw a statistic during that game today. You guys may have seen it also.
Bruce Arion's, the great quarterbacks he's coached in the first year, all of them had at least 15 picks.

Speaker 8 At least, I think 15, 17 picks. So that's not good.
That's not good management of an offense. He really needs to let Tom beat Tom.

Speaker 8 Let him go out there and do his thing. I think they need to move Antonio in the slot.
They got to get Antonio more involved because he's a dog, man, and they're not using him right whatsoever.

Speaker 8 And put those other guys on the outside and just let them work. But if you, Antonio is a game changer and a chain mover, man.
And they're not, he is not nearly what he once were.

Speaker 8 They're using him incorrectly. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 8 it just, the whole thing looks a little weird, and they have all the talent. It does not look good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tom doesn't look good. Where do Cam go from here? Last one.
Where does Cam go?

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 10 Yeah. If you were Cam, would you go somewhere and be a backup? Because that's what he might have to do next year.

Speaker 8 That's what I'm like. Like, do they read?

Speaker 8 It's probably like five quarterbacks coming out of college. He probably is going to go in the first round this year.
Some pretty good ones. Yep.
But what do you do? Like, what's going on right now?

Speaker 8 Do you, Do you do this over? Do you give him another shot? I think if you're Cam, and it will be a blow to his ego because, you know, he's an MVP, what, five years ago, four years ago.

Speaker 8 I honestly think I would go to a great situation, kind of a Jameson in New Orleans. Now, obviously, Taysom Hill kind of has changed that because he ended up being the true backup.

Speaker 8 But go somewhere where it's a great situation. A team will have you.
And if the starter gets hurt, you basically are walking into a championship-level team.

Speaker 8 You You can't dress like that and come off the bench. That's true.
You do have to. Yes, you're right.
You're right. That's a great point.

Speaker 8 He needs to change his entire wardrobe if he comes off the bench. I agree.

Speaker 10 What situation might look like that across the NFL? Would it be like Atlanta, maybe?

Speaker 8 Nuts.

Speaker 8 I don't know. Maybe.
Yeah, maybe. I mean, you know what would be an interesting one? Is like a Sean McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan.
What about Atlanta? He's from Atlanta.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's basically why I said it. But then they do have an aging quarterback and a new coach.
Who knows who that's going to be?

Speaker 8 But yeah, like Cal Shaman would be an interesting go somewhere where the coaching, you know, it's a system that you'll have success in. Everyone just picked the Packers, by the way, on NBC.

Speaker 8 So I'm happy about that. Let's go.
Let's go.

Speaker 8 All right. Well, Deion, thank you as always.
You look great in that hat. He's wearing a peaky blinders hat.

Speaker 8 Yes. You look swagger.
I'm going to wear 130, too. So, Tyree Kill.
I appreciate you guys. Tyree Kill would have like three touchdowns against you.
Tyree Kill, three touchdowns against you.

Speaker 8 I'm prime. Okay.
See ya. See ya.

Speaker 5 So, y'all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel. And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country-fried turkey.

Speaker 15 And Brandon, I'll be right there with you, and I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's so cute of you.

Speaker 15 Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 8 So, we've got four nominees. First off, Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy.
This was late last week, but we couldn't include him last week because he came out on Monday.

Speaker 8 He pulled out a sledgehammer during Saturday night's team meeting and smashed watermelons like Gallagher to emphasize their objectives.

Speaker 10 And he smashed his own brain after that with that shitty fake punt that he called.

Speaker 8 Oh, man. Well, it worked because this is for the Vikings.
Yeah, yeah. It was a Vikings.

Speaker 8 So that's first. Next, we have two football gals.
of the week. Okay.

Speaker 10 Gals can be guys.

Speaker 8 Yes, you clipped this one. The niece of ESPN reporter Shelly Smith.
This is awesome.

Speaker 8 She told the story that her niece once wore her ducks jacket to a game versus Oregon State and got hit in the head with a chunk of ice. But it didn't knock her out.
It knocked her silly.

Speaker 8 All right, let's put this in. Put this clip in.

Speaker 16 She got hit in the head with a chunk of ice. It didn't knock her out, but it knocked her silly.

Speaker 8 That was one of the most ridiculous clips ever. I was watching the game live, and I was so confused when she said this because it's a national broadcast, and she's like, hey, funny little anecdote.

Speaker 8 My niece got hit with some ice. Yeah.
And now

Speaker 10 she's insane.

Speaker 8 And that's the rivalry.

Speaker 8 I wrote it in the blog. If you could do Mad Libs for what she was going to say next, I don't think you would ever guess.
And the whole look, she was like,

Speaker 8 the game was crazy because it was a fog game. Couldn't see shit.
The announcers were literally like, and he goes back to pass. Wait, maybe he didn't pass.

Speaker 10 Like they were saying, no, the play action was fucking everybody up.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and she was all bundled up.

Speaker 10 Shelly Smith, she looked like an aunt.

Speaker 10 She is like, that story is the embodiment of, oh, my crazy aunt did something weird. But in this case, it's like she went on TV and told a story about me getting hit in the face with a bunch of ice.

Speaker 8 It was very, very funny. Next, we have probably the biggest story this week in sports, Vanderbilt kicker Sarah Fuller, who became the first coach killer to play in a coach killer.

Speaker 10 I mean, her coach fired out.

Speaker 8 Is it wrong to say that?

Speaker 8 She played one game. Derek Mason got fired.
Yeah. Coach killer.
TFT squib kick Twitter really came out in full force.

Speaker 10 Squib kick was. But yeah, it was a squib kick.
I don't know what the process of seeing what she was able to do and where the kick was going to go, how they like it. It was a squib.

Speaker 10 The gameplay went on. But it was a squib, and I think she hit it where they were telling her to hit it.

Speaker 10 I would have liked to see her try a field goal, but it just thinks that Vanderbilt is so incompetent.

Speaker 8 They got across midfield a few times. Did they? Yeah, they did.
Barely, yeah.

Speaker 8 That is so Vanderbilt to be like, hey, we're going to break this barrier, and we're never going to get into field goal. Yep.

Speaker 8 Lastly, you mentioned Robert Salah earlier. He said he wakes up in the morning on Thanksgiving and eats pumpkin pie as his appetizer.

Speaker 10 Ooh, pie for breakfast. Does that make sense?

Speaker 8 I don't know if I'd hire that guy. Real football guys don't even know that it's Thanksgiving.
That's true. There's like, yeah, it's just another day.

Speaker 10 Would Will Musk champ say Thanksgiving is a meal? Yeah.

Speaker 8 My wife makes me come home one day a year, Thanksgiving.

Speaker 10 Jake, did you do the burn of the ships one?

Speaker 8 No, we had Tom Allen on a few weeks ago.

Speaker 8 Wait, what? Who burned the ships? No, no, dude, dude. No, listen to this one.

Speaker 10 I'm just going to add one because this is actually sick.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 10 So there was a football coach in Western Boone in the middle of Indiana. His name's Justin Pulley.
And in order to motivate his players, he told them the story of Cortez,

Speaker 10 who, yeah, he's a terrible guy.

Speaker 8 He's canceled.

Speaker 10 Listen to Cortez the Killer by Neil Young.

Speaker 8 who burned his ships to motivate his men to fight harder.

Speaker 10 And what the guy did to motivate his team to win.

Speaker 8 What was his name? Dave Porter?

Speaker 8 No, no. He bought a ship and burnt it on the lawn in front of the high school.

Speaker 10 He bought a full boat and lit it on fire, bonfire to motivate his players to win that week.

Speaker 8 Are you sure this is real? Yeah, no, no, look, dude, look the picture. Yeah,

Speaker 10 he bought a speed boat and then

Speaker 8 blew it up.

Speaker 8 And Jake, you missed this? I mean, I didn't see it on Twitter. Billy.
Dude. Uh-oh.
Who gives a fuck about pumpkin pie? He's burning a ship. Wow.
This is dunno

Speaker 8 about the validity of that.

Speaker 10 So, Billy, in between you doing your other podcast in this show, where did you find the time to bring up the picture?

Speaker 8 Yeah, Billy, you're trying to cuck me, but you don't even do the sheets for them. Oh,

Speaker 8 but Jake,

Speaker 10 I tagged you this on Twitter.

Speaker 8 Jake, it is a fair question. Do you think maybe

Speaker 8 a little too much time college basketball? A little too much time bench mob? Go subscribe. I do love the bench mob podcast.
Go subscribe. Our darling Jake.
He's trying to get me to crack.

Speaker 8 Our darling Jake does a new podcast that he cares about more than this.

Speaker 8 This is my priority.

Speaker 8 If you tell me to quit and do this full time, I will never. No, no, go subscribe.
Our good friends, Rico Bosco, and Marty Moore.

Speaker 10 I think it's the number one college basketball podcast in the country.

Speaker 8 I saw a sign-out side DJs that was.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, go subscribe. You guys should not question my loyalty.
While you were out,

Speaker 8 Billy, while you were out of this actual studio, I don't know what you're doing. You were probably doing the benchmark.

Speaker 8 It's okay.

Speaker 8 Billy was like, can I start doing Football Guy of the Week? And we're like, yeah, sure. And then he's like, no, actually, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 I got finals.

Speaker 8 It was, he took control.

Speaker 10 He literally less than a second.

Speaker 8 He took control of Football Guy of the Week for a second.

Speaker 8 And then he was like, nah, I don't want to do it.

Speaker 10 No, well, I was just saying, no, this is pretty cool.

Speaker 10 Because, like, the point of the ship was that they couldn't go home, so they'd fight and play harder. Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we got that part. So, do you think we should burn?

Speaker 8 We know.

Speaker 8 Burning ships is, I think, pretty cool.

Speaker 10 Billy, I'm searching the name Justin Poley on Twitter.

Speaker 8 He's a high-speed ship. I don't know if it's a real.
It doesn't matter. You would think it would make headlines.

Speaker 10 Where'd you find it, Billy?

Speaker 8 Did you burn the ships? Did you burn a ship in front of your barn? Someone just emailed me. I saw it.

Speaker 8 I saw it too. Is someone pranking Billy? That would be all time.
Start sending

Speaker 8 football guy of the week stories to Billy.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Start sending feedback.
That's a fake name.

Speaker 8 This would be so. Oh,

Speaker 13 I'm going to have Billy's back on this one. Okay.

Speaker 10 That's pretty sick. I think there was just a boat fire, and the guy was like, I did this to motivate him.
Yeah, it was a joke.

Speaker 8 Yeah, then he got his insurance money.

Speaker 10 That's pretty motivational. Okay.

Speaker 8 All right. Well, either way, Jake.

Speaker 8 I found it. Yeah.
And how'd you miss it? At Billy Hot Takes. Check what this Indiana football coach did to motivate his team before their championship game.

Speaker 8 They adopted the motto, burn the ships, alluding to Cortez. Who tweeted it at him? Justin Polly? No, some guy, Dano, coach 26.

Speaker 8 All right. It has 100 likes.
So throw him in. Take Mike McCarthy out because it's a week old.

Speaker 10 I do like the fact that this football coach bought like an extra ship, like a vacation boat, and then lit that on fire to symbolize.

Speaker 8 We'll try to get him on. There's no wins.

Speaker 10 We'll get him on. There's no turning back now, boys.

Speaker 8 Billy, get him on.

Speaker 10 There's no boats in Indiana?

Speaker 8 Like, for yeah, there's no water. There's no water water.
You don't even get a boat. Yeah.
So he's burning a boat in the water. There's the canal.
Lakes don't exist, Billy.

Speaker 8 I forgot about lakes.

Speaker 8 Are there lakes in Indiana?

Speaker 10 No, they're actually not. It's just a bunch of milk.

Speaker 8 I thought it was just

Speaker 8 a little pools. Yeah, people, yeah.

Speaker 8 They have above-ground pools filled with a little bit of like farther north, right?

Speaker 10 And when they break open, they just kind of become a natural. Indiana does not border any finger lakes.
I'm pretty sure about that.

Speaker 8 Any finger lakes?

Speaker 10 I mean, not finger lakes, great lakes.

Speaker 10 Any lake can be a finger lake. Yeah, actually,

Speaker 8 it does touch Lake Michigan. Oh, it does? Yeah.

Speaker 10 When you round the lake. Oh, it's the little part next to Chicago, right?

Speaker 8 Jerry, Indiana. Yeah.
How many lakes in Indiana? 86.

Speaker 8 Well, it's not Atlanta.

Speaker 10 It's actually not that many lakes. That's not that high.

Speaker 8 That's not that many.

Speaker 10 And they could be large ponds.

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, that's not that many lakes. But it is a significant...
I mean,

Speaker 8 there are lakes.

Speaker 8 All right. So vote.
Jake, don't beat yourself. Vote for Football Guy of the Week.
Vote for Football Guy of the Week. We're going to add that one in.
Jake is very distraught now. It's okay.
I feel bad.

Speaker 8 I'm totally fine. You're totally fine.
Jake, we love you. We love you.
Totally fine. You can do your little podcast.

Speaker 10 You're a good son.

Speaker 8 Bench Bob, go subscribe. We love that podcast.
All right, vote for Phillips Orocco, One Blade, Football Guy of the Week. All right.

Speaker 8 Let's do Baby Braun, and then we'll get out of here with who's back of the week. Baby Braun of the Week, Hank.

Speaker 13 Can I combine mine?

Speaker 8 Dude, is LeBron?

Speaker 8 Is this the first time? I have a question real quick before we do Baby Braun.

Speaker 13 Yes, I think the answer is yes.

Speaker 8 Is this the first time he's ever watched sports?

Speaker 13 Oh, I thought you were were going to say, is he doing this?

Speaker 8 No, he's just baby brawning every sport. I know, I think he's a listener.

Speaker 10 This is the summer of brawn right now.

Speaker 8 Baby brawn, like, but he's watching every sport.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because this is like this is his little vacation away from playing basketball, so he's just hanging out on his couch, getting drunk every day. Yeah, he's drinking his tequila, watching TV.

Speaker 10 It actually sounds like he's probably having a great time,

Speaker 10 but he's just amazed by everything that he sees.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it was, I mean, everything that he sees blows his mind.

Speaker 8 He's like someone who's high. Yeah, he might be high.
He might be my baby.

Speaker 13 He's on his new tequila. He's a shitface all the time, which I guess is nothing new for him.
Yeah. He is my baby Braun of the Week, though.

Speaker 13 He's been tweeting out old clips of himself, kind of like, you know, doing the letter to me on Instagram.

Speaker 10 Yo, I like that, Hank.

Speaker 13 But he's been tweeting, you know, there's been clips of him in high school and stuff that he's like quote-tweeting and being like, oh man, this is crazy. Strive for greatness, young king.

Speaker 13 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 10 Telling himself, like, from future advice from his adult LeBron to baby.

Speaker 8 Baby brawn.

Speaker 10 He's just sprouting baby braun. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah, and he baby brawned baby braun.

Speaker 13 LeBron James Jr.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, Braun.

Speaker 13 He Instagram like pictures of them working out and stuff.

Speaker 10 If that was going to be My Baby Braun, would be Bronny. Bronny's My Baby Braun of the Week.

Speaker 8 I just did that.

Speaker 10 No, but you did LeBron James as a young Braun.

Speaker 8 He just did baby Braun.

Speaker 10 You said young Braun was

Speaker 10 Braun baby of the week. Braun Braun.
I'm saying that Braun Braun is Baby Braun of the Week. And also, fine.

Speaker 8 I always pronounce Bronny as Brony. Brony? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Like My Little Pony? Like the guys that fuck My Little Pony.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's Brony James.

Speaker 8 It might be.

Speaker 8 I don't know. It just makes me laugh.
I always read it that way.

Speaker 10 My other baby.

Speaker 8 Which isn't Braun just as like he's an undercover Brony. He probably wants to fuck the My Little Pony, so he named his kid Brony.

Speaker 10 I heard that LeBron James makes all the free agents at the sign wear tails underneath their

Speaker 8 form. Yep.

Speaker 8 Hank has a much bigger email. Wait, what's that, Billy? Hank has a bigger what.
A bigger what?

Speaker 10 Hank has a Hank has a bigger what? Detailed email.

Speaker 8 Oh, who? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 Is that what they're calling him?

Speaker 10 From the guy. A really detailed email with pictures and stuff.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 10 Wait, do you have another baby Braun? I was going to say my other baby Braun of the Week was Joe Biden's dog scout.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 Crossing him up. He's out here breaking ankles.
He's scratching ankles on Joe Biden. Had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 10 He's got a foot injury, which can be, I mean, Clay Thompson, myself, a lot of people tell you foot injuries are very bad.

Speaker 8 He's lucky that dog didn't bite him. Yep.
All right, my baby Braun of the the Week is Jarrett Patterson. Buffalo running back had eight touchdowns, eight touchdowns, like 400-plus yards, 409 yards.

Speaker 8 I don't know how his coach pulled him. Unreal move.
He actually said after he apologized to him. He just didn't know.
He didn't know. But someone has to tell him.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so this is what always amazes me about NFL sidelines and college football sidelines. They don't have a guy that's on the sideline watching TV.

Speaker 8 They're just watching Twitter.

Speaker 10 You should be on the sideline watching television and scrolling Twitter in a lazy boy just to let your coach know about important situations like this.

Speaker 10 Where, hey, this guy could set all kinds of records if you just give him the ball one more time.

Speaker 8 Could you imagine if

Speaker 8 you had like a Twitter watcher on your sideline? There should be. I just walked up to Matt Nagy and I was like, hey, buddy.
It's not going well. I mean,

Speaker 8 I'm going to shoot you straight. It is not going well.

Speaker 8 You're trending. Oh, Adam Gace is trending.
Walking over to Matt Patricia. Hey, man, you just looked.

Speaker 10 Everyone's just saying that you look disheveled.

Speaker 8 By the way, Matt Patricia getting fired just totally under the radar. Like,

Speaker 8 fire him after, on a college football Saturday, after Thanksgiving, before Sunday.

Speaker 10 Well, he's in the fourth quarter of Michigan Penn State.

Speaker 8 Right. Literally, like, that's the best time to be fired.

Speaker 8 You could very well wake up tomorrow morning and not realize that Matt Patricia was fired until we just said.

Speaker 10 Oh, he was definitely fired.

Speaker 8 But you know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 8 you're having a little mini break. You're watching college football.
You're waiting for NFL. NFL happens, so he's not going to lead on Monday.
No one's going to be talking about it.

Speaker 8 Matt Patricia was fired.

Speaker 10 There will never be anybody who is going to be more unemployed than Matt Patricia is going to be in the next couple months. He's going to be the most employed guy of all time.

Speaker 10 Just like sweatpants all the time. He probably won't put on a shirt.
Definitely not one with buttons on it. His beard is going to grow out.

Speaker 8 What do they do with all the gear?

Speaker 10 He's going to look like a walking jealousy suit.

Speaker 8 What do they do with all the gear?

Speaker 10 Oh, he's probably been hoarding that for a while. Yeah.
Like, just, he knew that this day would come.

Speaker 8 That would suck, though, to, to like have to wear it. Like, do you rid your closet of all the gear?

Speaker 10 Matt Patricia is still absolutely going to wear it because that's his free stuff that he got. Yeah.

Speaker 10 He's got just like a desk filled with pencils that he's been squirreling away for the last two years.

Speaker 10 Yeah, then just a walk-in closet of Lions jumpsuits. Yeah.

Speaker 8 All right, so Jarrett Patterson is my baby brawn of the week. Billy, do you have one?

Speaker 10 Yes, my baby brawn of the week. And LeBron would totally do this, but baby brawn Mike Tyson.
Because Mike Tyson showed out.

Speaker 8 He said he was high during during the fight, though. Yeah.
Wait, but

Speaker 8 he's older than LeBron. Yeah, but I know, but LeBron would totally be like, yo, Mike Tyson, my baby Braun.
No, you don't understand, Baby Braun. I think it.

Speaker 8 I get it, but I think he might do that.

Speaker 10 But LeBron would be like, yo, baby Braun, Mike Tyson.

Speaker 10 You have to understand.

Speaker 13 How would you say that for someone that's older than him?

Speaker 8 That's the thing. It's like he's because LeBron would be like, I'm LeBron.
Baby Braun is

Speaker 8 specifically for up-and-coming athletes who remind their greatness reminds LeBron of LeBron.

Speaker 10 But that's the thing he was doing.

Speaker 8 Someone does something awesome, and LeBron goes, oh, you know who else is awesome? Me. Me, LeBron.
Exactly, like Mike Tyson.

Speaker 8 But Mike Tyson fought a draw for a pay-per-view that was totally forgettable.

Speaker 13 And he was in his prime when LeBron was like 12.

Speaker 8 Exactly. So

Speaker 8 you get what I'm saying?

Speaker 10 I agree, Billy, that LeBron might have done that.

Speaker 8 It's not a who's back.

Speaker 10 LeBron might have done that. It is.
If Mike Tyson went out there and beat the shit out of him,

Speaker 8 Roy Jordan Juzer.

Speaker 8 No, he didn't. It was a draw.
It was no draw. Mike Tyson, we don't want to do it again.

Speaker 10 Roy Jordan Juzer was like, we go by the judges.

Speaker 8 Dude, I'm a draw. Scared.
Roy Ju? I have a baby brawn of the week.

Speaker 8 Thank you, Jake. Who's your baby Braun?

Speaker 8 Jake, go ahead. Do you have a real brand? Notre Dame running back, Kyron Williams.
Oh, I see you hit him with the silencer to close out the game. Yes, that is a great baby brawn.
Reminds me of me.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Hit him with the silencer.

Speaker 10 It would be totally LeBron to baby brawn Mike Tyson.

Speaker 8 No, it wouldn't. Yes, it would.
It's made no sense.

Speaker 13 It's baby Braun of the Week, not a theoretical

Speaker 8 baby brawn of the week. It's not Billy forgot to do this.
I did this. I wrote it down.
Yeah. I prepped it.
All right.

Speaker 10 It would be funny. Who's back in the week? Billy Rodin.

Speaker 8 All right, wait, before we do who's back.

Speaker 17 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 17 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 17 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 17 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 8 Who's back of the week to end the show, Hank?

Speaker 13 My who's back of the week is smoking dope slash getting lit before games and sporting events.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 13 Mike Tyson.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. Mike Tyson, after his exhibition, that was a draw that he did not win.
He confirmed to reporters that he was high as shit during the fight. Apparently, that's something he used to do.

Speaker 13 Like, he would just, you know, smoke weed and fight. And Marshawn Lynch came out and did an interview and said he used to take shots of Hennessy before every game.

Speaker 10 I'm always amazed by any athlete that can do anything. while they're high.

Speaker 10 It is the most, it's crazy to me that you can go out there and box while you're stoned.

Speaker 10 When I'm stoned, I just want to sit on my ass and replay the events of times that like were either really awesome or really bad in my own head.

Speaker 13 Even you know, it's it's basically it's an esport, so it's basically a sport, but like sometimes I'll you know I'll smoke and play Call of Duty and I'm not as good either.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's true. I think

Speaker 8 the gul out.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you think it's like, yo, you know, chill out.

Speaker 8 So you're going to be technically a stimulant. You're going to be great.
Marijuana

Speaker 10 speeds up your heart rate. Marijuana is not a stimulant.

Speaker 10 It speeds up your heart rate. Jay, can you look that up? Yeah, it does.

Speaker 8 Marijuana is a good idea. Marijuana is a fan of it.
Oh, it really feels good.

Speaker 8 Actually, I went to freaking freaking drug classes. Oh, yeah.
Why? Why? No, no, no, like in school.

Speaker 8 Don't do drugs, kids. It's called probation.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no, just because you take a drug test doesn't mean that it's school.

Speaker 8 Don't

Speaker 8 you know? Do you have any exact question?

Speaker 10 Is marijuana a stimulant or a depression?

Speaker 13 Make sure to remind Big Cat he put the biggest chinks in Northwestern this weekend.

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, I did.

Speaker 8 Whoops.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Might have gotten the boys a little too pumped up. Yeah.
Yeah. Whoops.
Sorry, Ravel.

Speaker 10 We had a tough week as a dean of the College of Medieval. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Speaking of stealing football guys, Ravel

Speaker 8 just tried to self-nominate someone. Who? What? Revelle.
What do you mean? He tweeted out, like, as big of a football guy as

Speaker 8 there is, and is Michigan State's guy with the fun name.

Speaker 10 Oh, fuck it.

Speaker 10 He had a fun name.

Speaker 8 Cool. Fuck it.
He looked like Drake O'Malfoy on Michigan State. Drake.

Speaker 10 I did get high on Friday, and I peed, and I got it all into the toilet, and I felt like I was a fucking sniper. No, I mean, I like nailed it, like, all into the wall.

Speaker 8 Let me, let me, yeah, that's called jizz. No, I don't want to have a stimulant effect.
As a result, we can be classified as a depressant stimulant or hallucinogen. Oh,

Speaker 8 right.

Speaker 8 So, all the above. It depends if it's a sativa or an indigo.

Speaker 10 It depends if you're smoking mids like Philly.

Speaker 8 If it's ghost dog,

Speaker 8 if it's ghost dog, that shit is a stimulant. If it's purple rainbow,

Speaker 8 rainbow kush, that shit

Speaker 8 is a downer. If it's Afghan, that's the hallucinogen.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Just anything you do, you should do in moderation.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Especially moderation.

Speaker 8 Because responsibility is

Speaker 8 signaling until Billy comes around. Then it's a downer.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Until a narcissist in the house.

Speaker 10 My Who's Back of the Week is short shorts in college basketball. Oh, yeah.
We've been calling that. I think we said like three years ago that they were starting to come back.

Speaker 8 They're fully back now.

Speaker 10 There's like one dude on Indiana that started to bring it back a couple years ago. Now it's like

Speaker 8 George Wiseman was a short shorts guy.

Speaker 10 He was for three games.

Speaker 10 Now there's probably like 40% of college basketball players are rocking short shorts.

Speaker 8 It actually makes sense. Athletically speaking, it makes sense.

Speaker 10 If you're playing a sport where you have to like dribble between your legs and also like get low and run and not get grabbed onto, I've been saying, yeah, for years, short shorts make more sense in basketball.

Speaker 8 And they're cool. I think they look cool.

Speaker 10 My other Who's Back of the Week is journalism fights. So Florio and Schefter.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Jake and Billy, first of all.

Speaker 10 Florio and Schefter had an old-fashioned source off on

Speaker 10 Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 10 The funny thing was, what they were arguing about was like the smallest detail possible over when the Ravens would be allowed to go back into the facility to practice. Naturally.

Speaker 10 And Schefter was like,

Speaker 10 sources inside the building say that they're not going back until Monday. And then Florio's like, that's what the Ravens think, but it's not their call to make, Schefter.

Speaker 10 And then Schefter started quote tweeting him. And now Florio won't let go of it.

Speaker 10 So he keeps as more information comes out He keeps quote tweet dunking on Schefter and doing the eyeballs So I think technically Mike Florio was correct to say that the NFL was going to make the call as to when they go back into the facility But Schefter was also still correct that they wouldn't be going back into the facility until Monday, which is what Harbaugh was telling him.

Speaker 13 Do you guys think the game's going to happen Tuesday?

Speaker 8 Hank, I know that you don't want it to.

Speaker 13 No, I do. I do, actually.
Not that anyone cares, but I have Pittsburgh defense for fantasy, and

Speaker 8 I need them to win. Oh, so that's more important than the Patriots?

Speaker 13 What do you mean?

Speaker 8 Well, that's why you didn't want the game to happen.

Speaker 8 True.

Speaker 10 Patriots fans. Yeah, Hank, you just want everybody to be safe, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah. If there's somebody,

Speaker 8 it's a pandemic, bro. No, the NFL stuff, right? Talk about that.
Yeah, obviously. All right, my who's back of the week.

Speaker 10 I was going to say, you were saying earlier that Harbaugh, if he does get fired from Michigan, should coach the Detroit Lions. Yes.

Speaker 8 It's his only way to keep his legacy, like to restore his legacy in the state of Detroit,

Speaker 10 state of Detroit, in Michigan. What about this? What if all the Harbaughs went together and coached the Detroit Lions as a unit? Throwing Tom Clark.
Like a family.

Speaker 8 Yeah. That'd be pretty sweet.
Do it. What do you say, Billy? My who's back? No, My Who's Back.
Is Magic Johnson tweeting things 24 hours later?

Speaker 8 So the big fight happened on Saturday night, and then he tweeted during the Packers Bears game praying for Nate Robinson.

Speaker 8 And we all all actually thought Nate Robinson had like went to the hospital and something really bad happened. And then I looked at

Speaker 8 Magic's Twitter and I realized that, no, he's just replaying the fight tonight, 24 hours later, because the tweet before was last night I watched the fight between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr.

Speaker 8 and then started giving his MVPs, which was everyone.

Speaker 8 Everyone won the MVP.

Speaker 10 It's not necessarily a bad thing to do every now and again to just, knowing what Nate's going through, just like periodically tweet out praying for Nate Robinson.

Speaker 10 He's going to need that over the next couple years.

Speaker 8 Dude, his sneakers were cool. They were.
That was all I had.

Speaker 10 Billy, we want you to beat up which Paul?

Speaker 10 Jake. We want, yeah.
He's tiny. Can we have you beat up Jake Paul? I will fuck up Jake Paul 100%.
He's small. I need some time to actually learn how to box.

Speaker 8 But he was a fraud. He's 6'1.
Legit.

Speaker 10 He's not 6'1 ⁇ .

Speaker 8 Own your fucking life. Jake Paul.
Is this the guy who beat up Nate Robinson last year? Yeah, Nate Robinson. He will fuck you off.

Speaker 10 He's 5'7 at the tallest. I looked at a picture of him next to Dave Portoy, and they were the exact same height.

Speaker 8 Dude,

Speaker 10 how tall is Nate Robinson?

Speaker 13 How tall is Dave?

Speaker 10 I've walked around.

Speaker 10 He's just as tall as PFT.

Speaker 8 How tall is PFT?

Speaker 10 5'

Speaker 8 Nate Robinson? 5'5'9.

Speaker 10 Depends on the shoe wear.

Speaker 8 Right. But I don't want to find 5'8 and 5'5.
100%.

Speaker 10 Like, I know Jake Paul would probably never be.

Speaker 8 Jake Paul's height is listed as 6'1.

Speaker 10 So Billy. He's not actually 6'1.

Speaker 10 So this is where we get into the genius of Billy's mind because Billy thinks that if he can prove that Jake Paul is shorter, like a smaller creature than Billy is, like, that means that

Speaker 8 Nate Robinson and Billy can defeat him.

Speaker 10 My reach on him, I was watching the fight. Nate Robinson couldn't get close to him.
I have a bigger reach than Jake Paul. I would totally be able to pick him out from the outside.

Speaker 10 Just saying, I know it would probably never happen because who the hell am I to try to fight Jake Paul? But like, I was like thinking about it.

Speaker 8 I was like, I can fucking fight Jake Paul.

Speaker 10 I think we should market you as like a long-lost Paul brother that got caught out of like cut out of the entire family estate. And now you're coming in from the dark.
The bastard's son.

Speaker 10 The bastard's son, the black sheep, coming to the side of my face.

Speaker 8 Boom.

Speaker 10 You're the Jon Snow of this.

Speaker 8 Exactly. Anyway,

Speaker 8 I was told to fight J Paul. What was your Who's Back?

Speaker 10 My Who's Back of the Week is the holiday season.

Speaker 10 And what better way to celebrate the holiday season than by gifts for your friends and family?

Speaker 8 Oh.

Speaker 10 Go to store.barstoolsports.com to pick up gifts that would be great for the whole family, such as

Speaker 10 Pardon My Flakes, or

Speaker 10 this Pardon My Take Hat, which is back in stock on Monday, which is when this is airing, as well as this football guy sweatshirt. Go to store.barstoolsports.com to get your merch today.

Speaker 8 That was great, Billy.

Speaker 8 That was lovely.

Speaker 10 Why are you giving me that face ink?

Speaker 8 What's your secret Santa?

Speaker 8 12.

Speaker 10 8. 69.
Jake, do you have a who's back? 18. Yeah, I do have a who's back.
Yeah, why would you cut Jake off like the back of the cereal box?

Speaker 8 Cereal box, it's the theme this week, I guess. Also, he's got bench mobs, so he's probably done who's back there.
My who's back, but in his eyes, not for long, is Dickie V.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, because he said

Speaker 8 he was going to die. Yeah,

Speaker 8 but he's definitely

Speaker 10 thinking about it a lot.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's Dickie V is definitely one of those dudes who, like, if they canceled March Madness again this year, there's be floating in his pool.

Speaker 8 I believe he's on the call for one of the Champions Classic games.

Speaker 8 Oh, it's a Grim Reaper baby. Dead.
Just dead as dead could be. 18.

Speaker 8 What's your number? This guy's real PT. So, guys, I think someone's going to get it right now.
Billy, well, Billy mentioned the Cyber Monday gift cards or discount.

Speaker 8 I logged all the AWLs who responded with proof, and they picked the numbers, so I'll shout them out if they got this. Oh, I counted only 51 of the 100 numbers in there were picked by people, though.

Speaker 8 So it's a 50-50 shot. Someone gets it, right? All right.
I'll go with

Speaker 10 69.

Speaker 8 34. Club has 87.
18.

Speaker 8 69.

Speaker 10 Let's go.

Speaker 8 39. Damn it.

Speaker 8 I thought I had it. Danny Wood.

Speaker 10 39.

Speaker 8 Shout out to Justin Brocksmeyer. Oh, he got it.
He got it. AWL, who participated in the Cyber Monday deal.
And guessed it, Josh. Justin Broxmeyer coming.
All right, dude, if you need a job, come.

Speaker 8 We probably need a new intern.

Speaker 10 Maybe two.

Speaker 10 Love you guys. Military dogs can get purple paws like purple hearts, but for dogs.
That's really cute.

Speaker 8 Would you fucking read that off of popsicles? No, I've started to write down a list.

Speaker 10 Okay, that's let me see that. You know what that is? That's a snapple fact.

Speaker 8 Let me see the list. No, it's not snapple.

Speaker 8 Let me see.

Speaker 8 Let me see the list. Don't take my list.
I'm not tapping it. This is for like the next two weeks.
I know. I'm not going to take your list.
Let me read it. I'm not.
You're going to read my list.

Speaker 8 I'm not. Let me read it.
I'm not going to read my list. I'm not.
Hey, you know what? You want to talk about something? How did the Can't Lose Parlay do this weekend? Oh, not great. Oh,

Speaker 10 guess what did amazing

Speaker 8 fucking

Speaker 8 for sports? I don't know. Who's winning? No.
Who's winning money for the AWLs? You said you're like, if the Patriots win, everything wins.

Speaker 8 And then the Cardinals score, and you're like, all right, go, Cardinals.

Speaker 10 Because if the Cardinals win, I had a higher payout, and there was also a losing part. That isn't Snapple Fact.
That's Snapple Fact 321. No, it isn't.

Speaker 8 There we go. Boom.
No, it isn't. I'm not reading it.
You're fucking reading Snapple Facts. No, I have a compilation of facts from everywhere.

Speaker 8 He's our new intern from everywhere. What?

Speaker 8 Anyway, love you guys. I love you guys.
I have a compilation of this from everywhere.

Speaker 8 I love you.

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