Thanksgiving Special With Northwestern Coach Pat Fitzgerald And Mark Titus

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Speaker 4 If you have to work on Friday, we don't have a show coming on Friday. We have Pat Fitzgerald, coach of the Northwestern Wildcats.
We have our good, good friend Mark Titus.

Speaker 4 We talk college basketball, shoot the shit. Always great to have him on the show.
One of our favorite guests.

Speaker 5 Patient zero for coronavirus in the United States, though. But we addressed that.
He apologized. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yep. He did everything.
So it was great to catch up with him about everything. We bullshitted it as well, so it kind of meandered, but it was great.

Speaker 4 And then we have

Speaker 4 a little preview of the games on Thursday, a little preview of the games on Sunday, Guys on Chicks, Hot See Cool Throne, Pack Show.

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Speaker 4 Today is Wednesday, November 25th, and you have made it to Turkey Day Week break.

Speaker 5 Congratulations.

Speaker 4 Congratulations, everyone.

Speaker 4 2020 is almost over.

Speaker 5 It's holiday season. You can just forget about anything that you planned on doing in 2019.
That's the greatest part part about an office job is the weeks in between Thanksgiving and New Year's.

Speaker 5 Because you can just say, uh, you know, it's that time of year. No one's in the office.

Speaker 4 It's put on a sweater, eat a little too much, put on 10 pounds, get a little drunk all the time, watch college basketball all the time, bowl games. I don't even know if there is a bowl season.

Speaker 4 It's the best. This month, you can be socially a little buzzed pretty much at all times.
Like, maybe there's an hour on Monday where you should probably try to sober up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just so you got the holiday spirit.

Speaker 4 Just full. I'm just full.

Speaker 4 I start this week, from this week until January 1st, and really when I say January 1st, whenever the first Monday is, so like January 7th this year, I just stay full the whole time.

Speaker 5 Oh, it's eggnog season too. Just full.
It's full. You know what it is? It's eggnog and seasonal food debate season.

Speaker 4 Mm-hmm. All right, so we got a big, big show for you.

Speaker 4 If you are listening and you have to work on Friday, we will tell you exactly when you can stop and, you know, have a little save a little something for yourself friday but we have pat fisher from northwestern we have our good good friend mark titus awesome interview with him talking about college basketball before we do that though monday night football tom brady i now we do this a lot with this show where we throw out half-baked ideas half-baked theories and we don't really believe them but whatever we just say them I'm starting to believe the theory that Tom Brady cannot play after 8 p.m.

Speaker 4 at night.

Speaker 4 I really do think so.

Speaker 5 I've been believing it. And as the game goes goes on, he gets worse.
That interception that he threw in the third quarter, was that the first one down the middle of the field?

Speaker 5 The one where

Speaker 4 one in the first half, I think.

Speaker 5 That's the one where Brian Greasy was like, and yeah, the issue on that was it looks like there was somebody that was standing by him. So his line of sight wasn't clean on it.

Speaker 5 But they were the exact same interception twice in the same game, and they looked like Jameis Winston interceptions.

Speaker 4 This is also why, like, Tom Brady, you know, he obviously is obsessed with football, maniacally so. But, man,

Speaker 4 the Bucs are still good. They're going to go to the playoffs.
They're going to be fine-ish. I don't know if they'll get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 It feels like they have a team full of names and not a football team. You know what I mean? They have some great players, but as a cohesive football team, it just sometimes

Speaker 4 looked bad against really good opponents.

Speaker 5 But they've got the Corvettes on the outside. That's another thing that they kept saying was like they've got the athletes.

Speaker 5 I mean, there's no better trio of wide receivers in the NFL than Godwin, Mike Evans, and Antonio Brown. It just doesn't exist.

Speaker 5 That's like a really good trio of guys. But there is a problem with Tom Brady, and you don't have to look very far.
Like, Coach Arians was kind of treating him with kid gloves after the game.

Speaker 5 He was saying, like, he was taking responsibility and saying that those picks weren't Tom Brady's fault. And it's like, you want Bruce Arians to yell at you and call you a shithead.

Speaker 5 When he stops calling you a shithead, that's when it becomes an issue.

Speaker 4 I don't understand, though, why they're running, like, Bruce Arians is a good coach.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say great. He's a good coach.
I think the QB Whisperer thing is a little overrated.

Speaker 4 I think we've talked about it, but it's a little bit easier to be a QB Whisperer when you have Peyton Manning, Ben Rothesberger, Carson Palmer.

Speaker 4 You go down the list, it's like Jameis Winston, high draft picks, like Andrew Luck, high draft picks. When you get the number one guy, Kelly Holcomb, being like, oh, QB Whisperer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Peyton Manning, great. Okay, Peyton Manning was great.

Speaker 5 He's had some stinkers. Like in his time in Cleveland, he's had some bad guys.
But yeah, he's had some very, very good quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 So my point, though, is like why I don't understand why Tampa Bay isn't playing more to Tom Brady's strengths.

Speaker 4 And when you say Tom Brady's strengths, he's the greatest of all time at being precise, at like, oh, you want to make us go 11 plays down the field?

Speaker 4 Okay, we will fucking kill you by Tom Brady never missing a guy, always making the right throw, always making the right read, instead of, hey, it's Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 He's got, you know, Mike Evans and Antonio Brown. Let's throw deep.
What? Like, that's never been his game. So why are they doing that?

Speaker 5 Because that's what Bruce does.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's weird.

Speaker 5 Even when they were in Arizona, you remember the years when Carson Palmer would get hurt and they'd have to dip into like their third and fourth string quarterbacks and just like roll whoever out there?

Speaker 5 I think it was like, what was it?

Speaker 5 Drew Henson went out there and started a couple games for him.

Speaker 4 It was the Virginia Tech guy.

Speaker 5 Shit. Oh, the tight end.

Speaker 4 Shit. Job.
Logan Thomas. Logan Thomas.
There it is. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, that's what Bruce Arians does. He doesn't really mold his playbook around whoever.
He's just like, this is a perfect playbook. And if you can't complete these passes, then fuck you.

Speaker 5 So I, yes, I agree with you. I think that they probably should alter their playbook a little bit.
But also, I want to give credit to the Rams. I want to give credit to Jerry Goff.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 5 They basically said,

Speaker 5 they basically said, like, we're going to take away, it's a good matchup for the Tampa Bay defense going up against the Rams offense because the Rams can run the ball. The Bucs can stop the run.

Speaker 5 I think they're like top five in the league. And then Jerry Goff goes out there and just throws like, what, 52 passes? It was awesome.

Speaker 4 Just lit him up.

Speaker 4 The Rams had a great game plan and uh yeah they're that that was a great game game plan by the rams great game plan by sean mcvay go ahead hank drew stanton drew stanton yeah remember he played against us in the kickball yes never forget took it way too serious

Speaker 5 you took that game not surprisingly where do we stand way too serious where do we stand on the rams uniforms from last night the off off white the uh the parking lot snow colored uniforms

Speaker 4 meh yeah not a fan i know the rams are a really good football team i think i've been talking about the Rams

Speaker 4 being a team that I put a future on them to win the Super Bowl like three weeks ago. I think they are a matchup problem for a lot of teams.

Speaker 4 I am just like, do you think, Hank, do you think Tom Brady at some point, because he's getting graded on the Tom Brady

Speaker 4 grade?

Speaker 4 People are saying, well, he's washed. Well, he's still a really good quarterback, but you expect him to be the greatest of all time.
He's not that anymore.

Speaker 4 Do you think there'll ever be a moment in the next year or two where he's like, maybe I should have just walked off after the Rams Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 Because he would have, like, walking off on a Super Bowl is an all-time move. And with six,

Speaker 8 yeah, something that's in his DNA.

Speaker 4 Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 8 You don't get to where you are if you're Tom Brady if you have that attitude.

Speaker 4 But they're like, the boss.

Speaker 5 Also, he can point at Peyton Manning and be like, Peyton Manning walked off with the Super Bowl. I'm not Peyton Manning.
I kept going back. I kept trying.

Speaker 4 I kept going back.

Speaker 5 Uh-huh. Yeah.
What about,

Speaker 5 I actually think the play of the game was the field goal at the very end of the first half when they get that long downfield completion.

Speaker 5 I tweeted about this, but it's amazing because I hadn't really considered it that much earlier.

Speaker 5 But it's so impressive that they're able to get their entire offensive line to sprint like 35 yards down the field, get to the line of scrimmage, and then stand totally still.

Speaker 5 If that were me, if I just like run a 40-yard dash in football pads, my body's like shaking. There's no way that I can,

Speaker 5 just the force of my breath is making me bob up and down.

Speaker 5 And they get to the line, they hold in their puke for about about three seconds get set it yeah they're able to snap the ball and spike it and then get a field goal that's that's like to me it's way more impressive the act of being able to get those big dudes to be able to do that than it is the actual completion downfield i agree i agree and um so i

Speaker 4 the only other take i had coming from this game is and i think this is i'm just saying this is going to be talked about in the media if the bucks struggle they're going to start saying that uh antonio brown what you get on the field isn't worth what you what you lose in the locker

Speaker 4 Because now I don't fully believe that, but I do think there's a point where you might have too many weapons.

Speaker 5 I think you brought Antonio Brown in too early. I think you can't give him that much time.

Speaker 5 If you're going to bring a time bomb into your locker room, you bring it in as late as possible so it doesn't detonate in the middle of the season.

Speaker 5 But yeah, you're right. They do have to spread the ball around a lot because they have so many weapons.
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 I feel like if you have Tom Brady, the whole aspect of why am I not getting as many catches gets a little bit diminished because you kind of have to trust the guy that's won so much. Right.

Speaker 5 But yeah, definitely if you don't feed Antonio Brown enough, now he will be a problem.

Speaker 5 But I feel like Godwin and Evans and Gronk, those guys can manage if maybe their targets go down by like 10% or 20%.

Speaker 4 I just want Scotty Miller to get back out there.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Scotty doesn't know.

Speaker 4 Scotty doesn't know.

Speaker 5 But what about JPP making plays? And shout out to Steve Levy for not talking about

Speaker 5 JPP's disintegrated hand every time that he makes an interception. You know he wants to very badly.
And he's he's made a lot of them in like the last three weeks.

Speaker 5 When he tips a ball and he reaches up, and you can see it's with the bad hand and he gets one of the good fingers on it.

Speaker 4 Like, if that were me,

Speaker 5 if that were me, I would probably be fired.

Speaker 4 One of them good fingers.

Speaker 5 You have to talk about the explosion at some point, right? Yes. The fireworks out there.
Yes, you do.

Speaker 4 That was a big miss.

Speaker 5 How does he signal the start of the fourth quarter?

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 other hand or just a fist. Yeah.
All right, so that was Monday Night Football. I don't really know.
Yeah, I feel like the Bucs are a good team, but they are.

Speaker 4 I mean, you lost twice to the Saints. The Rams are the other team that you thought could match up well against them.
You lost to them at home. This will be a very interesting game on.

Speaker 4 We will get to the Sunday slate after Titus and Fitzgerald, but against the Chiefs. Because, like, the Bucs are now in a spot where

Speaker 4 they can erase all the doubt by beating the Chiefs, or the doubt can really pile on by losing the Chiefs and going into the bye week and being like, what are they?

Speaker 5 And it's in the afternoon. It's when Tom Brady is still losing at 4.25.

Speaker 4 It's still okay, as long as it doesn't go to overtime. All right.

Speaker 4 Thanksgiving Day,

Speaker 4 football.

Speaker 4 I would like to propose that I think, I don't think they're allowing fans in Detroit, but I would love it if they would just put a couple fat guys dressed in pilgrim outfits to fall asleep in the third quarter just to make us feel like there's some normal stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I agree with that. We need a little bit of ambiance in this.

Speaker 4 Just a couple fat guys just dressed ridiculously, kind of, you know,

Speaker 4 too many Bud Lights, and they're just half dozing dozing off as the Lions.

Speaker 4 I feel like the Lions, I can't even get a read on them anymore.

Speaker 4 Like, if Kenny Galladay is playing, I think maybe they'll win. And if he's not, they'll lose.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I feel like this team's falling apart.
I think they're going to lose no matter what. What's up, Billy?

Speaker 11 They haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row.

Speaker 4 Okay. They haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row.

Speaker 5 There is something nice, though, that's going to be, you know, you're going to be sitting in the kitchen probably helping make some of the appetizers, put together a cheese plate, pouring yourself a glass of white wine at 10.30, 11 30 in the morning

Speaker 5 and then you watch you turn on the tv and the lions are losing by 17 points yeah before you have even sat down to eat i i i like how that feels but it would be better if you had at least a couple of those fans in the stance i actually have a proposal for um for like bills nation and a lot of the teams that uh are looking like they might make the playoffs that haven't made the playoffs a while maybe even in danger of getting

Speaker 5 a home a home playoff game like in buffalo bills mafia we've talked about how they should let bills mafia in why don't they just, they should turn, it's no longer New Era Stadium.

Speaker 5 Is it just Buffalo Bills Stadium? They should just turn that field into a bubble right now.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And be like, we will admit 50,000 Bills fans into the stands as long as you promise not to leave between now and the first week of January and just coexist here.

Speaker 5 We'll have like a hospital set up in one of the end zones where we can treat you if you do get coronavirus.

Speaker 5 But at the end of that, you know, month and a half long exposure, we know that everybody will be safe safe for the playoff game. I think you get 50,000 people right now.

Speaker 4 You had this idea a while ago.

Speaker 5 I thought it was just for the parking lot. Just like you said, no you and Mafia getting thrown through tables.

Speaker 4 I thought you had the idea for like SEC. You just have the diehard fans all get together and bubble before the season starts.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you could have like bubbles in different cities.

Speaker 5 I actually think it could work in Buffalo inside the physical stadium. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. Make it happen, Buffalo.
It would be great. It would be great.
I'll do it.

Speaker 5 I'll do it with Bills and Mafia. I'll do it.
I'll go up there and I'll live inside the stadium if you make that happen.

Speaker 4 Yes, it has to happen.

Speaker 11 What, Billy? Or incentivize first people to take the vaccine. You get to go to the Bills game as a test.

Speaker 4 Ooh, what about the Russian vaccine? They're making a cheaper vaccine. Yeah, they're making a cheaper vaccine.
Billy, you have to take that one.

Speaker 4 The only other thing I had with the Lions game is

Speaker 4 Rode favorites are 12-3 on Thanksgiving playing the Lions or Cowboys, and the Texans are the favorite.

Speaker 4 But, I don't know. The NFL just feels like that league where the Texans won last week.
They beat the Patriots. Everyone's like, ooh, don't forget about Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 4 And then you remember they kind of suck. Also, J.J.
Watt, hopefully, he gets like player of the game so we can get some awesome quotes from him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and also so he can be eating the turkey on the sidelines. Yes.
You know, he really wants to do that. Bring back John Madden for this game.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Can we please get John Madden to roll his turduction?

Speaker 4 Call in. All right.
How are you feeling about Washington football?

Speaker 8 Why is John Madden like hidden from the world?

Speaker 5 Because he's like 100 years old. He's so old.
And he doesn't fly.

Speaker 8 And he hasn't made any public appearances.

Speaker 4 It has existed. I bet John Madden doesn't have the internet.

Speaker 5 How old?

Speaker 4 84. He's actually on, I'm pretty sure he's on like an NFL like rules committee where they just call him up every now and then.
They're like, does this feel like football? He's like, no.

Speaker 4 And they're like, okay.

Speaker 4 I swear, I'm pretty sure. Find it, Jake.
I'm pretty sure he is. He is.
He is, yeah.

Speaker 5 When they were like trying to redo pass interference.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was like, nah, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it doesn't make sense on TV.

Speaker 4 He's like the final boss of rules.

Speaker 5 I think he should be the commissioner. He should be the shadow commissioner right now.

Speaker 4 A football philosopher. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 5 But for the Washington football team on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 I have something good for you. Okay.

Speaker 4 I have visualized this game. I have visualized all of America making fun of Andy Dalton in the fourth quarter on Twitter.

Speaker 5 Okay. All right.
That's good enough for me.

Speaker 4 Doesn't it feel like that?

Speaker 5 That fits the Tony Miller.

Speaker 4 Doesn't it feel like that?

Speaker 5 I just, I keep going back to the RG3 game in Dallas back in 2012, where he threw for like 350 yards and four touchdowns, just embarrassed the Cowboys, pulled their pants down national television.

Speaker 5 I am a little bit concerned about Mike McCarthy, who seems to have figured out the secret to coaching football in the NFL, which is to smash the shit out of watermelons with a sledgehammer.

Speaker 5 I don't know how it took him this long to just wake up one day and be like, oh, I've got it. I haven't brought the watermelons out yet.

Speaker 4 It should be illegal that I lost my Survivor League on the Vikings. That's knowledge that I should have had beforehand, because you can't smash.

Speaker 4 He knew that he had one watermelon to smash to get the most out of his team, and he was like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 5 It's such a bizarre time to pick this. Like, why are you doing that for the Vikings game? You should have done that four weeks ago.
That That should have been the Ben Denucci challenge.

Speaker 4 I bet you they still made like Stephen Jones clean it up.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 He just had his handkerchief like it was class.

Speaker 13 As of 2018, John Madden announced that he is doing what every retiree dreams of, removing every last obligation from his schedule.

Speaker 5 God, that's so awesome.

Speaker 13 But he had a great cameo on Little Giants.

Speaker 4 That's true. That was like 40 years ago.
Demet Smith. Yeah, he was also

Speaker 5 made a video game.

Speaker 4 Well, he's actually the most

Speaker 5 shit video game programmer in world history.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 5 Him and Mr. Nintendo.

Speaker 4 He coded that himself, the first one.

Speaker 5 I keep going back and forth because every time I get a little bit of confidence in my Washington football team, that's when they break my heart. I'm starting to get optimism, and they're going to.

Speaker 5 I don't want to say it, but it feels like my heart's about to get broken again.

Speaker 4 But Andy Dalton getting made fun of.

Speaker 5 Washington by seven.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Andy Dalton getting made fun of.
All right, and then last stealing.

Speaker 5 What a story that would be. Alex Smith winning a game on Thanksgiving in front of the world.

Speaker 4 Andy Dalton's going to get made fun of on Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 5 I predict the winner of this game wins the NFC Beast.

Speaker 4 He's still got the Giants, the Goodish Giants. They're going to beat the Bengals this week, so now they're going to be

Speaker 4 right there.

Speaker 4 Not so sure. Ryan Finley.

Speaker 5 Not so fast, my friend. Come on.
Come on.

Speaker 4 Ryan Finley is sweet.

Speaker 4 Ryan Finley, nice guy. Really nice guy.
No.

Speaker 4 Ravens, Steelers. The Ravens got the Coco.
The Steelers don't. The Steelers are going to kill him.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We thought the Ravens had a chance.

Speaker 4 Now it's no.

Speaker 5 On Monday, this was a back against the wall game.

Speaker 4 Just don't, just please don't cancel this game.

Speaker 5 Stand up against the wall so we can shoot you.

Speaker 4 Please don't cancel this game.

Speaker 5 I think it's going to be played because it's on, so none of these games are on the same network. You got CBS, Fox, and NBC.

Speaker 5 So one of these networks is going to bitch and moan if a game gets canceled and moved around.

Speaker 5 And that's really ultimately what Roger Goodell cares about, is making sure that the networks are happy and all that stuff. All their partners are happy.

Speaker 5 So I think they're going to end up playing the game. I don't know who the Ravens are going to have playing running back besides Gus.

Speaker 4 Gus Bus.

Speaker 5 Maybe RG3.

Speaker 5 Maybe run like a dual Wildcat type situation at some point during this game. But with all the Coco drama, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Justice Hill. There we go.
Justice Hill.

Speaker 5 That's Mount Sinai. Justice Hill is kind of a name that he could do something.

Speaker 4 Just based on a name. That feels like a name that he was a little Justice Hill.

Speaker 5 He was a fourth-round pick. He was a really good college running back.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Justice Hill, baby.
Justice Hill.

Speaker 13 You were talking about the Steelers. I know we'll get into scenarios and tiebreakers a little later, but they can clinch.
Playoff spot today. The Steelers win Vegas and Miami loss.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 4 I got the Steelers 55-1 to win the Super Bowl. There you go.
Need it.

Speaker 5 Bonus shoes back of the week. I forgot to mention this on Monday.
The ESPN playoff machine is back. So I've spent conservatively 15 hours messing around with different playoff scenarios.

Speaker 5 Let me tell you, it's ready to go. The football team's making the playoffs 15% of the time.

Speaker 4 All right, let's do Hot Sea Cool Throne.

Speaker 4 Then we're going to get Pat Fitzgerald, Mark Titus, and then we'll do the rest of the Sunday slate on the other side of that for people who have to work on Friday.

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Hank!

Speaker 8 My hot seat is the boys on the green couch to my right.

Speaker 4 That would be Billy and Jake Marsh.

Speaker 8 Billy, a listener, send us a video of

Speaker 8 Billy.

Speaker 8 Using the same fact twice.

Speaker 8 So he used the emu fact in the end of September 18th, and then he used the same fact at the end of the show the other day.

Speaker 5 That's almost on us because that was only two months ago, and we don't remember it. I don't think it happened.

Speaker 4 That's Billy.

Speaker 4 Billy is Billy plagiarizing his own facts is just.

Speaker 4 I should have seen it coming. He's probably been doing it.
He is Rick Riley. Yeah,

Speaker 4 you've lived

Speaker 5 Rick Riley's entire career in the span of two years.

Speaker 4 Who's Rick Riley? I have no idea who Rick is impressed.

Speaker 5 Also, Billy, somebody told me.

Speaker 13 I've been on the show a few times, fellow Big Jack.

Speaker 4 Yeah, only once.

Speaker 5 Someone was suggesting that you get some color coordination going on with your spreadsheet.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Wait, what happened? You would help.

Speaker 5 With the sales in the spreadsheet, I have a better idea for the spreadsheet.

Speaker 4 You should throw it out. First of all, you should print it out.
You know what? I

Speaker 11 just heard so much about this goddamn spreadsheet.

Speaker 4 You should print it out. Wait, whoa, fuck.

Speaker 4 You're accounting Twitter.

Speaker 15 You all Sunday ruined my NFL Sunday.

Speaker 4 fighting accounting by coming up with a system that makes football not fun to watch you literally sat down and you said to you're like like all right who do you got in this game you're like well I have the patriots and then the Texans took a lead and you're like well now I need the Texans like you it's not fun there's multi it's like a choose your own adventure but your adventure changes every two seconds exactly no it's not it's not fun you had a miserable time watching it I know I had a miserable time because all these camera for the boy without an attention spam all I'm saying is if you want to make people take your spreadsheet seriously, print it out.

Speaker 5 It's red zone for bets. Hand it to us.
It just changes all the time. Hand it to us in a hard format, and then put those plastic sheets with a plastic spine on it.

Speaker 5 You remember those that make your paper look 10 times better in college? It's such an easy line. You should do that with these sheets.

Speaker 4 Laminate them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, with these sheets, just put the plastic sheets on either side with a plastic spine on the back, and then it feels like an official document. Then we'll take it seriously.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 8 And then Jake.

Speaker 8 So we have limited edition. These are collector collector items.
Cereal boxes.

Speaker 8 Pardon my flakes. They're going to be on sale Black Friday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, breakfast.

Speaker 8 If you're watching right now, you can see them, but it's like they're custom

Speaker 8 PFT,

Speaker 8 Big Cat, myself are on the front. And on the back, there's a crossword puzzle.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 8 Word search. Word search.
Sorry, not a crossword puzzle. There's a word search with a bunch of names that are

Speaker 8 relative to the show. Bubba's on there.
Billy Football is on there. Grit, AWL, Coach O.
Just no mention of Jake.

Speaker 8 Jake got frozen out.

Speaker 13 You guys didn't make these words.

Speaker 5 We did not make those words. No, we actually cleared.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we cleared them all. We were like, make sure Jake's not on there.

Speaker 13 I thought I was part of the family.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry, Jake.

Speaker 4 Flakes for Riding.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry. You know what, though? There is a secret cake in that word search.
Not really.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, cake is in the word search. If you find the bonus cake, then that means you won.

Speaker 13 It's disappointing.

Speaker 12 I got a really good idea.

Speaker 4 That is fucked up, Jake. I'll have it fixed.
There's a jazz. Let's backwards.

Speaker 12 I got an idea.

Speaker 11 Let's take like three boxes and then cross out the FL on flakes and just put a J.

Speaker 4 Billy's just trying to get

Speaker 11 there'll be limited edition and then whichever, whoever gets it.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 There's a cake on there. That's what I'll say.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 why is the word clutch?

Speaker 13 Why did that make the cut over me?

Speaker 4 That was someone who doesn't listen to the podcast is like clutch.

Speaker 13 That is just not a segment at all.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 5 Larry Six is on there.

Speaker 4 Clutch. Larry Six is on there.
This guy's like sports.

Speaker 4 Clutch.

Speaker 5 By the way, Larry Six, people have asked how he's doing. He's big.
He's the biggest fucking goldfish that I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 4 He's so chunk.

Speaker 5 He looks like he ate every other Larry.

Speaker 4 Maybe we'll have him pick some.

Speaker 4 He got two.

Speaker 8 Yeah, people are like, why is he doing picks? He's bigger than the net.

Speaker 4 And it's like, he's like, it's not like a little goldfish where it's like, oh, whatever.

Speaker 8 It's like borderline shark. It feels like animal abuse when you trap him into the net.

Speaker 5 Some things are bigger than sports, and one of those things is Larry.

Speaker 4 Maybe we'll have Larry do playoffs.

Speaker 13 Yeah, so we need an updated version of of that box.

Speaker 4 All right. Definitely not happening.

Speaker 4 Definitely not happening. You're on here in my heart.
Thank you. That's what means most.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hank, you're... Oh, wait, no, that was both of them.
Cool throw. That was.
That was. PFT.

Speaker 5 Okay, thanks. My hot seat is Ryan Rosillo.
Recurring guest of the show. I was alerted to Ryan Rosillo's podcast by a couple people.

Speaker 5 I guess he does a show when he's not doing part of my takes sometimes.

Speaker 5 Haven't had the opportunity to check it out, but someone sent me the relevant clip from the show, and he was saying things like, there are some people people out there in the media that don't actually know anything about football that keep saying that the Washington football team's pass defense is number one in the NFL and using that as an example as to why they're good, and they're not good.

Speaker 5 And he yelled.

Speaker 5 He raised his voice at me and others in the media saying that we don't watch the games because it's teams that play us that are beating us that stop throwing the ball in the second half, which is why our football team

Speaker 5 is number one in yards per game and passing. Well, Ryan, you don't watch the game film, Ryan, because we're also number five in yards per attempt.
How's that for you?

Speaker 4 That's a better stat.

Speaker 5 Number five, but also, well, it's number five yards per attempt, meaning we're pretty good.

Speaker 5 Second of all, if you watch the games, you would know that we played a lot of teams that are in the game with us till the fourth quarter, into the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 So they do still run the ball in the second half, Ryan. We're beating the Cleveland Browns in the second half.

Speaker 4 We don't throw the ball in the ball.

Speaker 5 We're close to winning against the Arizona Football Cardinals in the second half, Ryan.

Speaker 5 We played the Giants who just stink at passing the ball, so that's not really any indication of whether or not we were falling behind to them. All I'm saying is we're number five

Speaker 4 yards per attempt. I think he got you.
Not at all. Not at all.

Speaker 5 Gotcha. Look at the stats, Ryan.
You think he got you. You're taking Ryan's side in this?

Speaker 4 Well, the going from one to five when you say we're number one hurts. Out of 32.
Yeah, I know, but that's not number one.

Speaker 5 Still pretty good.

Speaker 4 It is good. Still pretty good pass defense.
It's not number one.

Speaker 5 And then my other hot seat is everybody who's falling asleep at night because the office is getting taken off Netflix.

Speaker 5 But this is like the 10th time that Netflix has just leaked a report saying that they're threatening to take the office off. Damn.

Speaker 4 They basically hold America hostage. They're on the cock.
They are on the cock now. They're going to the cock.

Speaker 5 They pretty much, but this happens all the time. They're like, if we don't get 50,000 new subscribers by the end of the week, we're taking the office off.

Speaker 8 Also, quick baby Braun of the Week alert.

Speaker 8 Netflix, so Dave Chappelle, I guess, doesn't get royalties from Chappelle's show. Netflix put Chappelle's show on Netflix, and Dave Chappelle complained.
It was like, this is kind of bullshit.

Speaker 8 So, Netflix just helped them out and was like, all right, we'll take it down because we have a good relationship with you. And so, Dave Chappelle thanked them.

Speaker 8 LeBron James, baby Braun of the Week, is Netflix. He tweeted, major shout-out and salute to Netflix for looking out and being loyal to my dear friend, Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 4 Means a lot. Wow, big bron.

Speaker 8 So, Netflix is the baby bron of the week.

Speaker 5 My cool throne is cornucopia is on score bugs. I love this week.

Speaker 5 You get the leaves falling, you get the cornucopia, a couple squashes, maybe one turkey on one of the sides. This is the start of festive score bug weather while you're watching football.

Speaker 13 I liked when Fox did the Christmas lights for the timeouts.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was really nice, too. Embrace debate.
What's your favorite updated score bug? Is it the Halloween one that has a pumpkin? The turkey cornucopia one?

Speaker 5 The Christmas lights? Or the one that's just plain snow for New Year's?

Speaker 4 I like the Christmas lights. Something about them.
Christmas lights as well. Yeah, I do like the cornucopia, though.
I love those. I love that as well.
And the leaves.

Speaker 4 I think Fox does the falling leaves.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they do falling leaves. I like that.

Speaker 4 That's my favorite. That's my favorite.

Speaker 4 All right, my hot seat is. Is this guy?

Speaker 4 Who's Steve O'Rourke? Do you know who that is? Shut up, Steve.

Speaker 5 He was a guy from Jackass.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I don't know if he's real or not, but he's the manager of Pink Floyd. What? Oh, no.
That's a different Steve O'Rourke. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, he. He's a.

Speaker 8 Oh, he's a doctor. Smart guy.

Speaker 8 He has a Hall of Fame journalists.

Speaker 4 Peyton Manning's on the hot seat for Steve O'Rourke because he just had an all-time takequake this afternoon. Peyton Manning will get into the Hall of Fame, but he's not a Hall of Fame quarterback.

Speaker 4 By my reckoning, you have to be indisputably the best player at your position for an extended period of time, and there was almost always someone better his entire career. Speaker of truth.
What?

Speaker 4 Is that?

Speaker 4 I'm trying to find Steve. Spots a lie.
Where do you find it?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I got retweeted in my time.

Speaker 4 Shut up, Steve is his name.

Speaker 4 And then my cool throne is Dan Heron because Bill James Online, who's got a very strange follow,

Speaker 4 does random Hall of Fame polls. And he put out Roger Clemens versus Dan Heron, and Dan Heron won the poll.
Wow. I might have retweeted it, but we do need Billy.

Speaker 4 We need the PowerPoint for Dan Heron's Hall of Fame because he is actually up for the Hall of Fame this year. To present to them?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so throw out your stupid fucking betting spreadsheets that make no sense and make us spreadsheets for Dan Heron. Okay.
Dan Heron is a Hall of Fame pitcher. Prove me wrong.
Okay. Verbal meme.

Speaker 4 Billy football.

Speaker 12 I'll ask Mike the Bike.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 12 Mike the Bike's favorite.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know, but you're definitely going to unload this on someone else.

Speaker 11 No, I'm not going to be able to do it. Picking Mike the Bike for you.

Speaker 4 Do we have numbers, guys, here now? You have the ability. Like, I actually want a compelling argument.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 Done.

Speaker 5 I bet you he's got more National League wins than Roger Clemens.

Speaker 4 He's got the lowest ERA in the World Series of all time. There you go.
Boom. That's one of them.

Speaker 5 Also, never used steroids. Boom.
Probably. If he did, they were really bad steroids because he threw like 89 miles per hour.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Terrible.

Speaker 4 All right. Bill, you have a hot seat quality? My hot seat?

Speaker 11 Normie.

Speaker 4 Oh. We don't.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't talk.

Speaker 11 He's kind of old news. There's a new Norman.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 4 With a

Speaker 4 new.

Speaker 11 Yeah. So, Greg Norman's innocent dog photo has an X-rated twist.
What? As a Norman, yeah.

Speaker 4 This is one of those. Oh, wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's.

Speaker 16 I wasn't sure who Greg Norman was.

Speaker 11 Turns out he's an old golfer.

Speaker 4 Now he's not. Oh, Jesus.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So.

Speaker 4 Great white cock. Yeah.
He's got a hammer. Normie's just canceled.

Speaker 4 I still think he can't get it. Where's his hammer? I don't see it.

Speaker 5 What? It's in his pants, the outline in his pants.

Speaker 4 Oh, I was looking for that dog cock. Yeah, Normie's.
I was looking for a dog cock.

Speaker 10 Anyway.

Speaker 4 Got it. Dude, he's ripped.

Speaker 16 Normie's canceled.

Speaker 4 Damn. He's not canceled.

Speaker 5 I feel like everybody in Australia over the age of 60 still has abs.

Speaker 4 Tony Meatballs among 15 mobsters busting in Philadelphia. I mean, that's, if your name's Tony Meatballs, like, go to jail.
Who cares? You already won life.

Speaker 5 That press release was pretty funny. It was like, among others, Tony Meatballs and Joey Electric are going to prison.

Speaker 4 Tony Meatballs. I mean, that's.
I mean,

Speaker 5 you're king of the block.

Speaker 4 It's incredible.

Speaker 5 They're cosplayers at this point.

Speaker 4 Yes, Tony Meatballs.

Speaker 5 I asked Jeff Nedu that on his Periscope. I was like, do you hear the news about

Speaker 5 Tony meatballs and he goes we we don't talk about that but it's a tough morning yeah it's a tough morning he's a fan of the mafia

Speaker 5 bleep out his name hank my the

Speaker 4 cool throne is mashed potato gravy volcanoes

Speaker 4 mashed potato gravy volcanoes you're gonna do that it's yeah

Speaker 4 i love doing that that's all highlighted my thanksgiving i knew my other cool throne um

Speaker 4 i don't i feel like the one food that always gets bashed on the thanksgiving table is is cranberry sauce.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm not a fan.

Speaker 4 I like it. Yeah.
I'm going to say that it's fucking, I eat it once a year. It's a nice little, like, you know what?

Speaker 4 It's a lubricant for all the food.

Speaker 5 It also destroys urinary tract infections, which is nice. Right.
But I'd rather have a dirty dick than eat that shit.

Speaker 4 So you're going to do a mashed potato volcano?

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's the best way to have the gravy in one place, then you dip your turkey into it.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 You guys don't do that? I'm with it. What are you talking about? Are you guys kidding me? Are you building it yourself?

Speaker 12 Yeah, you get it. Get your mashed potatoes.
So you're playing with it.

Speaker 15 No, no, no.

Speaker 16 It's actually saving the gravy.

Speaker 12 You make it into a bowl, mashed potato volcano. It's like a lagoon of gravy.

Speaker 16 Then the gravy does get wasted on the plate, and then you can dip your turkey into it.

Speaker 4 Ah, like a sauce.

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 4 Billy?

Speaker 15 You mix it up with the mash. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've never done that, and I'm going to do that. That is genius.
Dude. Billy,

Speaker 4 mashed potato gravy volcano. You said it so fast, I didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

Speaker 5 I think that it's a pretty normal thing, but

Speaker 4 I've never heard it called

Speaker 5 a mashed potato turkey.

Speaker 4 Billy, I'm in it. Well, then, yeah, Billy, I'll send you a picture.
I'll send you a picture of it. Perfect.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 11 I'm going to make a huge one. That is actually a genius thing.

Speaker 4 Thank you. So, you guys do cranberry or no?

Speaker 11 No, it's for candy asses.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow. Agreed.
Okay, well, guess what? You benched 285, dude.

Speaker 4 That was good, Billy.

Speaker 4 That was a pretty good club. Oh, breaking boots, breaking boost, breaking boots, breaking boots.

Speaker 4 Uh-oh. What? No.

Speaker 4 What? What, hey, bitch?

Speaker 4 No. Sure, I'll check first.

Speaker 13 Breaking Minnesota at Badgers is a no-go.

Speaker 4 Fuck! They're disqualified.

Speaker 4 Who, well, I mean, we were disqualified when we lost it.

Speaker 13 Our current guest, Tom Fornelly, retweeted it.

Speaker 4 Who was it?

Speaker 4 Was it Minnesota or Wisconsin?

Speaker 13 Wisconsin football and basketball beat rider.

Speaker 4 No, but is it whose fault? Who can I?

Speaker 4 Do I have to get, I'm basically asking, do I have to get in the front lines and be like, hey, guys, don't COVID shame, it's a pandemic, or do I have to be like, Minnesota, you fucking scumbags, how could you do this?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 See how that works? That's just how my brain's working.

Speaker 11 It's Minnesota. I think Minnesota is going to be a good one.

Speaker 4 All right, good. So, scumbags.
I'm going scumbag route. Got it.

Speaker 13 Done. While Big Cat looks that up, I have a bonus cool throne.

Speaker 4 Fuck, man. I wanted to kick the shit out of Minnesota.

Speaker 13 Recurring Blake of the Year, Blake Griffin, is on the cool throne because he just got a new teammate named Anthony Lamb out of the University of Vermont. Some

Speaker 13 greatest teammate ever.

Speaker 5 All right, so Pistons winning the championship.

Speaker 4 Yep. Okay, done.
Enjoy it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I really wanted to fucking, I wanted to skull fuck the gophers.
They suck. They suck.

Speaker 4 Damn it, man. Fuck coronavirus, man.
I just want to say that. Oh, also, yeah.
You know what? Quick, just quick side-fire fest. Quick Change died today.
Quick Change. He died.
Oh, yeah. That was tough.

Speaker 4 He died. He's dead because of coronavirus.

Speaker 5 The quick change guy.

Speaker 4 Quick change guy. The halftime, it's like his wife would go out and they would.

Speaker 5 were like the two.

Speaker 4 They would fucking, he'd have the curtain and she'd be like in seven different dresses.

Speaker 4 How the hell did this happen?

Speaker 5 Quick change. He was the unsung hero that, because I think a lot of times the lady that's doing the changing

Speaker 5 gets more of the credit for it. But you could tell that he was the real

Speaker 4 brains behind the operation. I got a funny story I'll tell you guys off air about Quick Change.

Speaker 5 One time he dropped it and she came out new?

Speaker 4 No, no, I can't say it. But R.I.P.
Quick Change, especially on the day he died. I love Quick Change.
Forever love. It's not about Quick Change, the story.
I love Quick change.

Speaker 4 Forever love quick change. Quick change.

Speaker 4 Fuck, man. It just sucks.
Everything sucks. All right.

Speaker 4 Let's do Pat Fitzgerald, Coach Pat Fitzgerald, and then we will get to our good friend Mark Titus talk college basketball and catch up with him about everything.

Speaker 4 Before we get to Pat Fitzgerald, though.

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Speaker 4 All right, here he is, Coach Pat Fitzgerald.

Speaker 4 All right, we now welcome on very special guest, friend of the program, recurring guest. It is coach Pat Fitzgerald off of a, I don't know, decent win.

Speaker 5 Program-defining win.

Speaker 4 Wisconsin had three, their top three receivers out, announced right before the game.

Speaker 4 The refs also were

Speaker 4 Northwestern grads, but a good win nonetheless. No, I'm serious.
It is Pat Fitzgerald. Great coach.
We wanted Coach on.

Speaker 4 He was going to surprise me on Sunday night and rub it in, but I think

Speaker 4 you don't realize I actually had a spin zone that you are the most disrespected coach in America.

Speaker 9 I don't know about that, man, but it's great to be on with you guys. Just trying to be a football guy.
That's all I'm trying to do.

Speaker 4 I love it. All right, so here is my take.

Speaker 4 Here was my rant, and you can tell me, and I don't, you can't go against your own fans, but great game on saturday your defense was phenomenal that was a full through and through uh big 10 nine punts in the third quarter terrible football to watch but i loved every second of it i your fan base afterwards and it's really more people in the media were talking about how this was such a huge upset and this huge win and i have the take that pat fitzgerald is a great coach and has a very good program, and people should recognize that.

Speaker 4 And it's not Northwestern from years and years and years ago they are a good program that is consistently good and you are a great coach and people need to recognize that so when you win games like that it's actually kind of to be expected you guys have been in the mix in the big 10 west you won the big ten west two years ago start putting some respect on pat fitzgerald's name Well,

Speaker 9 I appreciate the rant and the support, but

Speaker 9 yeah, I mean, we've just got to keep getting better. I mean, you're right.
It wasn't a sexy game, but both teams have two ridiculous defenses. And I think they played really well.

Speaker 9 And proud of this group. I think they're very talented.
I think this is maybe one of the more talented teams that I've had the privilege of coach top to bottom.

Speaker 9 And, you know, it's starting to showcase it. We got to still get a lot better as we go here in the last three weeks.
But

Speaker 9 it's great to be where we're at. And, you know, we got miles to go, though.

Speaker 5 Miles to go. Well, yeah, you have miles to go.
But, I mean, I think it's possible that you guys could win the Big Ten this year. It's not out of the realm of imagination.

Speaker 5 Now, obviously, you're taking it one game at a time. So you have Michigan State, then Minnesota, then Illinois.

Speaker 5 If you have to break glass in case of emergency and bring in one alum to give the best pump-up speech of all time before a game, I know sometimes you've had Mike Greenberg in the locker room.

Speaker 4 Are you going to go with Greene, Revelle, or Wilbon or somebody else? White Dave?

Speaker 5 Or Rachel Nichols. Or White Sox Dave?

Speaker 9 White Sox Dave would have some juice now. I mean, you know, he would have some passion behind what he was saying.

Speaker 9 There'll be some deep thoughts with some of the other Northwestern media mob that are absolutely outstanding. But

Speaker 9 I think they've all had their turn. They've already been a part of that.
They've all done a terrific job. And I know they start to kind of get a little crazy after we have some big wins.

Speaker 9 And I hope to continue to make them be completely crazy. And, you know, PFT, I heard you're big into trolls.
I heard you like trolling people. So

Speaker 10 I don't know who told you that.

Speaker 9 Well, I think maybe if we could do something here with our great Medill School of Journalism, maybe we could have a little offshoot and you'd become the dean of trolls.

Speaker 4 What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm into that. So I was thinking, I don't know if you guys do this at Medilla.
I know they lost their accreditation, so they probably do.

Speaker 5 But do they offer like a correspondence course where I could take one class there and then become an alum, a Northwestern alumni, and you bring me into the circle?

Speaker 5 Either that or I could start up the troll school. I have no problem doing that either.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think I would just skip and go right to becoming the dean of the troll school. I think you have a special expertise there that you'd be able to really teach the future journalists of America.

Speaker 9 I love it.

Speaker 4 So the game against Wisconsin and more importantly, the fight in Reese Davises, the comment that Joey Galloway made, basically talking that, you know, Wisconsin isn't sexy.

Speaker 4 They don't have a lot of athleticism. They have fighting Rhys Davis's.
As a football coach, when a member of the media says something like that,

Speaker 4 do your eyes light up?

Speaker 4 Did you bring that to your guys or do your guys hear that anyway?

Speaker 4 Because it was clear afterwards that you use that as a rallying cry and I actually think it was unfair that Joey Galloway did that to Wisconsin and the game is under protest.

Speaker 9 Well, I don't think you're going to get anything for the protest, number one. And I know Joey and I know Reese well.
They're both great guys. I didn't hear it.
I didn't know it.

Speaker 9 Kyrick McGowan, our wide receiver, sent kind of a group

Speaker 9 text to our Unity Council and said, what's this all about, fighting Reese Davis's?

Speaker 9 And so I think it kind of hit like wildfire into our locker room and our guys had fun with it the next day of practice. And I actually kind of got coached up a little bit by the guys on what

Speaker 9 they had heard. And so we just ran with it.
I don't think it was a rallying cry. I think it was more to have some fun and, you know, just enjoy the heck out of it.

Speaker 9 And we had Reese come on and Zoom bomb the squad on Monday when we went over our players of the game and our highlights for the game. And, you know,

Speaker 9 I think about Zoom bombs. I think about Coach Dougs coming on.
I don't think we've lost since Dougs gave us that motivational speech this summer.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow. No,

Speaker 4 you turned it around.

Speaker 5 You brought Northwestern back to eliminate you.

Speaker 4 I did it to myself.

Speaker 5 That's tough.

Speaker 4 I did it to myself. No, but I just always, those are,

Speaker 4 I love the human element of sports and seeing that. And it was very clear that the guys took that personally.

Speaker 4 And I guess maybe that's where the disrespect of you as a coach comes in, that you probably have to keep the element of like, we are underdogs. We're not Ohio State.
We're not Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 We're not Michigan. We're not like these big-time, you know, larger Big Ten schools.

Speaker 4 Do you, like, if you guys keep going with success, is there an element that you have to find a way to keep that edge of, hey, we're not a traditional powerhouse here?

Speaker 9 Yeah, well, I think you said it right earlier. We've had really consistent success now, especially over the last five years.
I think we're making progress to where we want to be in this league.

Speaker 9 And, you know, if you get to that point in this league, then it happens naturally.

Speaker 9 uh for the national audience and the way people feel. There are quite a few people out there that still remember Northwestern maybe when we had tough records.

Speaker 9 And last year, I think we took a step back from what people's opinions may be, but you can't ride that roller coaster. I think our guys just had fun with it.

Speaker 9 They enjoyed the heck out of, you know, something that was maybe a little bit humorous, you know, Joey making fun of Reese. And then our guys grabbed it and ran with it.
I love that aspect of it too.

Speaker 9 And, you know, if anybody's going to, you know, give you a chance for some bulletin board, why not have some fun with it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5 And I saw a clip of you on the sidelines. I think it was at halftime when you were jogging into the locker room.
I think that you're still the biggest dude on the northwestern sidelines.

Speaker 5 I think that you can kick

Speaker 5 all your team's ass. Like, if they came at you one by one, I think you walk out of there the winner.
Is there anybody on the team you think could beat you up?

Speaker 9 No, I think I'd be VH1, man. I'd be a one-hit wonder.
I'd get one sucker punch in and I'd run like hell.

Speaker 9 There's no way I could do that.

Speaker 4 But I had a lot of fun with my man, Spanos.

Speaker 9 You guys like Spanish.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I like getting in the weight room and

Speaker 9 getting in there a little bit. We talk some smack to each other, but no, man,

Speaker 9 my days of all that stuff are stuck in the 90s, and we wore neck rolls back then, so I'd need a lot of padding if I was going to touch any of our guys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's about to be Spanos weather, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 Do you think that it is an unfair advantage that Northwestern is allowed to have fans at their games? You guys had a packed house on Saturday.

Speaker 4 Is that is, I mean, the rest of the Big Ten is not allowing fans.

Speaker 9 Oh, you're beautiful. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 9 it was great to have fans there. There's no question.

Speaker 9 I didn't know that COVID was spreading in stadiums. I wasn't aware of that in the Big Ten country because I think it was only parents and family members of our staff.

Speaker 4 I thought that was the regular crowd.

Speaker 9 My bad. Yeah, I knew you were going to go there, but that's okay.

Speaker 4 That's okay.

Speaker 4 Everybody's got jokes. Is it, no, though, is it, this is actually a real question.
I do that little joke and then a real question. How hard is it to get

Speaker 4 your team kind of up?

Speaker 4 in some of these games where you're playing in front of no one and having that level of intensity that you that you want to reach on game day yeah blake gallagher said it this summer our linebacker 51 who was uh big 10 player of the week this week he called it by oj bring your own juice man this is going to be

Speaker 9 a year that you got to bring your own juice you got to show up ready to go and uh you know our guy the home games i think the home team has a bigger advantage this year because you got you know you've only got 74 on the road and most of those guys are probably in your rotation well it looks like everybody at home's got like we call it the juice box you got a group of guys that are kind of bringing bringing some juice and having some fun.

Speaker 9 And I definitely think the home teams, at least in Big Ten country, you know, with the small crowds and our no crowds, there'll be no crowd. We were told no family, no friends at Michigan State.

Speaker 9 Same thing at Minnesota next week. So that makes it challenging.
I know. It's been a sellout at Camp Randall this year of nobody too, right?

Speaker 4 That's actually interesting. I didn't even think about that, that like the home when you have, how many guys can you have on the sideline? Like it's like 100?

Speaker 9 Just depends on what your roster cap is. So you can have as many as you have in your roster.

Speaker 4 So that would help because you have a bunch of guys, kind of hype men, that are there that the other side doesn't have.

Speaker 5 And a little loophole, just give some more walkouts. Yeah, walk-ons, just like bring as many people as possible into the tent so that you can have more people in the stands.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes.

Speaker 9 Well, Big Cat, that could be another reason why we won last week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, listen, you guys were the better team.

Speaker 4 I'm a Papitcher guy. I said it on Sunday.
I think you're disrespected. You're one of the best coaches out there.
You got your team playing great football.

Speaker 4 What do you think about all, like, when you look around college football, it is interesting.

Speaker 4 You see, like Mississippi State, for example, they dressed 49 guys going to Georgia and they played really well.

Speaker 4 So how, like, if when you have to deal with COVID or maybe the other side has a couple guys out, how do you deal with that like game planning and getting ready?

Speaker 4 Do you say, oh, they're missing these guys, we can change it up, or do you just keep it going and whoever's out there is out there?

Speaker 9 Well, the way things are right now, no one's reporting in advance who's on their list of being out or in for the game.

Speaker 9 So it's really in-game adjustments that you've got to look at where things are at and matchups and things of that nature.

Speaker 9 At this point, we haven't seen what we thought we were going to see on tape and then something different on game day. So so far it's been that way.

Speaker 9 You know, but you think about the NFL, they only address what, 46 guys for each game.

Speaker 9 So, I mean, it's, it's, it's, you've had a, we did a bunch of research on that, getting ready for the season about how many guys we needed.

Speaker 9 Some leagues have a cap, like if you're down this amount of linemen, this amount of quarterbacks, they're not going to play the game. The Big Ten chose not to do that, which I thought was a good move.

Speaker 9 We want to try to play as many games as we can, and we're not limiting based on availability, but we have had some teams that unfortunately have had a cancel.

Speaker 9 And listen, you know, if I don't say anything else that's funny, but I will say something serious.

Speaker 9 You know, we're so thankful for our medical providers, you know, that have helped us all get through this and those that are on the front lines right now helping. I mean, this pandemic is real.

Speaker 9 It's not going away. And those on the front lines, man, we lift you up.
We think about you. We pray for you.
And we're very thankful for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well said. And we're happy that Big Ten football is being played and I can watch nine punts in a third quarter.

Speaker 9 I think that's pretty sexy, man.

Speaker 4 No, it's hilarious. Oh,

Speaker 4 listen,

Speaker 4 I make fun of it from a place of love.

Speaker 4 When a game gets into a punt fest like that game did, you really are like all that can change this game is one penalty, one 15-yard penalty, one punt return for, not even a punt return for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 I'm talking like a 15-yard punt return, and the game completely changes.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no question. It was one of those old school Big Ten games, you know, and we found a way to get it done.
But Wisconsin's an outstanding team.

Speaker 4 Coaches,

Speaker 4 they'll be back. I don't need you to do that.
Coach needs you to do that. They'll be back this week.
I don't need that.

Speaker 5 Coach, it's been a while since we've done this segment, but I actually was in touch with a friend of mine who is a third-grade teacher, Mrs. Joyce.

Speaker 5 She teaches third grade right outside Austin, Texas, and her class actually had a couple questions for you. So they're pretty simple.
You can give them one-word answers if you want.

Speaker 5 This is from Flynn. Flynn wants to know, Coach Fitzgerald, what's your favorite color?

Speaker 4 Purple.

Speaker 5 Purple. Do you like coaching offense or defense better?

Speaker 4 Special teams. Ooh, good answer.

Speaker 5 And then the last question from Flynn, would you coach the Bears?

Speaker 9 I'll coach the Cats. I'm happy with the Cats, so thanks very much.
Okay.

Speaker 5 But Flynn also wants to know, once the season's over and you guys have won a national championship at Northwestern and the Chicago Bears offer you $10 million a year, are you going going to accept that offer to coach the Chicago Bears?

Speaker 5 That's from Flynn.

Speaker 9 Well, my good friend Matt Nagy is the head football coach of the Bears, so I'm cheering for those guys big time here to get this thing going. We can still make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We can still make the playoffs, Big Cat. We got to beat the shot.
I saw it on the screen last night. Yeah, in the hunt.
In the hunt.

Speaker 5 You're absolutely.

Speaker 4 We're in the hunt.

Speaker 9 You're saying there's a chance. We got a chance to make it.

Speaker 4 Okay, so last question for Mrs. Flynn's

Speaker 4 class.

Speaker 4 It was from Timmy. He said, how much is too much money that you would just not be able to turn it down?

Speaker 9 They're going to turn a season around, man.

Speaker 4 Matt's going to win a Super Bowl up there. Yeah, okay.
Yep. Yep.
I like that. I like that answer.
All right. Well, coach, this has been awesome.
We appreciate you as always.

Speaker 4 Stop cheating with the grass.

Speaker 4 Tell Alex that we say hello.

Speaker 5 Yes. That we actually have a project for him to maybe get back over 300 pounds on the bench press eventually.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Tell the guys of the team, congrats from me. That was a great win.
I was very, very, I really do think you guys are a great team this year.

Speaker 4 And you were saying before we even went on the Zoom that 8-0 is like already done and that you'll see Ohio State. That's what he said.

Speaker 4 Before we started taping, he was like, all right, we got to make sure that

Speaker 4 we're going to be talking about Minnesota.

Speaker 9 I saw the recording button go on when I came on, so I'd like you to be able to prove that if you don't mind.

Speaker 4 That's smart. That's smart.

Speaker 5 You don't want a Jeffrey Toobin situation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good luck. Good luck.

Speaker 4 And great win. And you guys are a really good football team.
And people need to start respecting Pat Fitzgerald more as a great football coach.

Speaker 9 We're good, man. I'm more than thankful.

Speaker 9 Appreciate you guys, man. Happy Thanksgiving.
Don't eat too much turkey, late.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, that's not.

Speaker 5 Not even this year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. All right.
Good luck with, well, no, you don't need luck, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois. You already count those as wins.
So, yeah, good luck against Ohio State.

Speaker 9 You guys are the best coach.

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Speaker 4 And now, Mark Titus.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 we now welcome on our our very good friend. It is Thanksgiving.
We thought, hmm, college basketball starting a little later than usual this year, starts today.

Speaker 4 We're taping this on Tuesday, starts today on Wednesday. Who's one of our best friends in the whole world? Who knows basketball inside and out? It is Ryan Rossillo.
Welcome to the show, Ryan.

Speaker 4 No, it's Mark Titus, one of our best friends.

Speaker 4 You can find him on Titus and Tate podcasts. You can find him on Fox Sports.
He was on my TV the other day. He's everywhere.
Titus, great to see you.

Speaker 10 Big cat, it's been a long road to get back to relevancy, as you've pointed out to me many times over.

Speaker 10 I want to not make this contentious because I have a feeling the direction we're going to take this, but

Speaker 10 it's hard not to look back on these last eight months and think about you taunting the coronavirus gods. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I will inject myself

Speaker 10 if the NCA tournament gets canceled.

Speaker 10 I just felt like it was too much. And honestly,

Speaker 10 I'm a little bitter about it because when we look back on the road that we just traveled, college basketball is really the only sport that sacrificed anything. And

Speaker 10 we're the only sport that had the tournament canceled. No one else did.

Speaker 10 The NBA pretended they sacrificed, but then they spent so much time patting themselves on the back for coming up with the bubble that it really wasn't a sacrifice in the end.

Speaker 4 But whatever. It's a good point.
Yeah, it's a good point. We're here.
Yeah, that was a regretful comment. We were just laughing beforehand.
PFT would say that he didn't respect coronavirus.

Speaker 5 I said it was overrated and overrought and it couldn't win on the road.

Speaker 4 We called you a pussy for not flying out to the Big East Championship.

Speaker 10 And then we find out it's actually a big deal and you guys just shrug your shoulders and go, oh, I guess we're wrong. Meanwhile, me and Ross Dean are crying in the corner.

Speaker 10 Like, when are we, is our livelihood over now?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it was a little dicey for all.

Speaker 5 But I guess if you look back on it, there's a silver lining. It looks like you really decked out your home office there.
How long did that take you to hang up all those pictures in perfect level?

Speaker 4 Did you have to go through it with a tape?

Speaker 10 Shout out to Mrs. Poizel, my eighth-grade geometry teacher, who

Speaker 10 helped me all the angles and everything like that.

Speaker 4 And listen, we're not going to get contentious, so this is the last I'll say.

Speaker 4 But what you just said is true.

Speaker 4 You know, 250,000 Americans dead, but the real loser here is Mark Titus because the tournament got canceled. Coach K also.
And Coach Coach K. So yeah, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 4 Just to sum up your point, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's exactly what I was saying.

Speaker 4 Got it.

Speaker 10 I just, I see the future, and in the future, I've said this to you both already.

Speaker 10 We fast forward to February.

Speaker 10 All you football people spend all winter coughing on each other and making this all worse.

Speaker 10 And then everyone takes stock of the pandemic after the Super Bowl is played, after national champion is crowned in football. And then we're like, hey, we should probably take this seriously.

Speaker 10 We should cancel sports, right? Sports aren't that important. And then we go through it again, and college basketball is, again, the only sport that gets.

Speaker 4 That's my fear.

Speaker 4 I take offense to that. I truly love college basketball.
It is my favorite sport to gamble on.

Speaker 4 This feast week doesn't feel like feast week because I'm not watching, you know, Shamanadead play Kansas at noon in Hawaii right now. So it's my favorite week.

Speaker 4 I'm excited that we'll at least get back. Kansas, you know what? Let's start there.
Kansas Gonzaga on Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 4 Will this be the year that Gonzaga finally gets to a Final Four?

Speaker 10 I think it might be. Gonzaga's going to be really good.

Speaker 10 I really do. I didn't love Gonzaga last year.
They had a decent team,

Speaker 10 but I really do like Gonzaga's team.

Speaker 10 They got a classic situation that I love in college basketball, which is trying to figure out who the best player on the team is. And this can only happen in college sports.
Like in the NBA,

Speaker 10 it's pretty obvious. You know, like the guys, I guess like the era of super teams, they argue over like, is LeBron or AD better? But for the most part, like you kind of know.
AD.

Speaker 10 But in college, they make arguments about like, that guy's not the most talented, but he is the heart and soul. Therefore, he's the best.

Speaker 10 And then it's like, well, that guy's going to be the best draft pick. So he's the best.
And then it's like, well, this guy, you know, the whole offense runs through him. So he's the best.

Speaker 10 That's Gonzaga this year. They have like four guys who are the best player.

Speaker 10 And I love that because.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 you get these situations that you only get with college sports where you pretend like the guy who's like not that talented is actually the best player just because he dies on the floor.

Speaker 5 In the case of Florida State last year, actually their sixth best player ended up being their best player overall.

Speaker 4 But Mark Few is a great coach. coach, and what you just described, I think it is interesting when it happens in college basketball.
I would assume they'll still be okay

Speaker 4 because, unlike when Duke has this problem and Coach K just says, okay, everyone just take turns playing one-on-one basketball and we'll hope it works.

Speaker 4 This will actually still work for Gonzaga, correct?

Speaker 10 This will actually still, this is like a good problem. This is like,

Speaker 10 yeah, Duke is, we're too good, and Coach K loses, and the press conference is, and Kentucky does this too. Cal is actually, Cal does this more than K does, but

Speaker 10 you almost complain about how you're too good. You have too much talent.

Speaker 4 You have too much.

Speaker 10 It's like these kids, it's hard to get through to them. They're so talented.
I just don't know. There's only one ball.
I can't really figure it out. That's not really Gonzaga's problem.
Gonzaga,

Speaker 10 Gonzaga is in a good sense. Gonzaga is more like the Villanova teams that won national

Speaker 10 in that regard, where it's like, yeah, like, is Jalen Brunson or Mikael Bridges the best player on the team? And then we are

Speaker 10 Dante DiVincenzo off the bench. Yeah.
That's like Gonzagafield this year.

Speaker 4 What was the team, the Duke team with Luke Kennard when they, that was literally, they had four guys who all went and they all, it was the worst basketball ever to watch play. That was Brandon Ingram.

Speaker 4 That was

Speaker 10 Grayson Allen, Luke Kennard. I forget who the big guy was that year.

Speaker 4 And they just, it might have been Wendell Carter. It might have been.
Yeah, it might have been Wendell Carter. And they just were like, yeah, we're all going to take turns and drive to the hoop.

Speaker 10 Yeah, the Zion team did that a little bit too with Barrett and Cam Reddish was the number three recruit in the country. And he goes goes anywhere else other than Duke, and he's averaging 20 a game.

Speaker 10 And he goes to Duke, and he's like, Am I allowed to shoot?

Speaker 10 I should shoot now. All right.

Speaker 5 Are we overdue on a Gonzaga cheating scandal? I feel like they've really skated on the radar. As the program has become, you know, they haven't been really the plucky underdog for the last 10 years.

Speaker 5 Something fishy is going on.

Speaker 4 Yeah, John Stockton. I feel like

Speaker 5 it might be. It might be Stockton.
Who knows? I mean, it could be like, I don't know, there's some perks in what's his name's Underground Apocalypse Bunker, Adam Morrison.

Speaker 5 I don't know what's going on, but they're so far away from the East Coast media elites, the real journalists, that I feel like it's easier to get away with cheating on the West Coast.

Speaker 10 Here's what it is, PFT, and I like where your head's at. Gonzaga recruits all the international guys, and I think what they're doing is they are doing a money conversion, and then they pay them in

Speaker 10 loonies or whatever it is that Canadians.

Speaker 5 Are they actually loading up on a lot of Canadian talent?

Speaker 10 And I think when you do the conversions,

Speaker 10 it gets lost. Like the FBI can't track that.

Speaker 10 They clear the trail. Like every other school is paying in dollar bills and cash.
And you see the cash, you see the ATM transactions. You're like, that's illegal.

Speaker 10 I feel like Nzaga is getting these international guys, and it's just getting, they're muddy in the water, it's better now.

Speaker 4 I'm on it. I'm on it.
I famously, two, three years ago, I got way too high one night and thought I uncovered a point shaving scheme with St. Mary's because they had a bunch of Australian guys.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 I was going back in time, looking at all their box scores because there was a weird situation situation where they fouled like up seven. They fouled up seven like five different times to get the over.

Speaker 4 And I was like, these guys are cheating.

Speaker 5 We watched like the replay of that and we were pausing it and be like, I think the coach is looking at the scoreboard right there, isn't he?

Speaker 4 That was.

Speaker 5 But yeah, it's interesting, Mark, because I think that it's not against the law to just go to a different country and be like, hey, I want to buy like $500,000 worth of your money, but I think it's worth more.

Speaker 5 So I'll give you $1.5 million American dollars for that that because I value it more.

Speaker 5 Although I don't know why you do it with the players that St. Mary's gets.
They're basically just like future punters for Bill Belichick at the draft.

Speaker 10 The real Galaxy Brain move is Bitcoin, and I don't understand why college basketball programs haven't tapped into this.

Speaker 10 I just feel like when we have a resurgence in Ivy League basketball, Ivy League has taken the year off, and

Speaker 10 that scares me because I think they're going to spend the year scheming. They're going to come up with something.
They're going to come back in a big way. And I'm worried it's going to be Bitcoin.

Speaker 10 They're going to find a way to pay players using Bitcoin. It's untraceable.

Speaker 4 That's all I really know about Bitcoin.

Speaker 4 I like where you got us started.

Speaker 5 What about Cash App, the official app of recruiting violations?

Speaker 4 Can we say that? That would be cool. They're a great sponsor.
Yes, that would be very cool. All right.
So, yeah, Gonzaga, Kansas on Wednesday is going to, or Thursday is going to be awesome.

Speaker 4 You want to do Big Ten? You want to talk a little Big Ten? Because the Big Ten is loaded. It is truly loaded.
Absolutely. All five starters returning for Iowa.

Speaker 4 We're going to talk about the Big Ten, but just tell me, my plan for early season bet in college basketball is just bet on the teams that have all their guys coming back, assuming there hasn't been a lot of practices and everything, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, that seems to make a lot of sense. I would agree with that.
Yeah, it's going to be, it's an absolute shit show, the practicing, and the teams

Speaker 10 that have delays have to go on hold for 14 days or whatever. So who knows?

Speaker 10 There's some schools that like can't even...

Speaker 10 I think it was Georgia Tech said, I don't know if they're still doing this. It's hard to keep up with everything.
Georgia Tech said they were trying to practice with no contact.

Speaker 10 And this was Josh Pastner's big idea. It was like, we're going to practice bad.
So I don't know what they're just playing horse.

Speaker 4 Hoosier. I don't really understand.
Yeah. Hoosiers practice out a ball.
I, yeah, they should move the three-point line in for this year only.

Speaker 4 They used to do that.

Speaker 10 Back in the day, you could find old footage. I think it was the ACC did like an experimental three-point line, and the three-point line like cuts through.
It's like barely above the free throw line.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no.

Speaker 10 You could see like this old footage of like, yeah, back in the 80s, a guy's taking like 16 footers.

Speaker 4 Dude, even in the the 90s, like Khalid El Amin and the UK, those Yukon teams, they would hit threes and it would basically be an extended free throw. Yeah.
It was awesome. So, all right, so Big Ten.

Speaker 5 So, who are those teams? Like, obviously, Wisconsin, they're bringing back.

Speaker 4 Wisconsin brings back

Speaker 10 Baylor's bringing Baylor, I think, is a team if you're talking like nationally, not in the Big Ten. Baylor brings back a ton of guys.

Speaker 4 Quincy Ace is coming back.

Speaker 4 Baylor.

Speaker 4 All right, so tell me this, Baylor. Because I basically, early college basketball, before I have a feel for all the teams, I just go on like what I assume every program is.

Speaker 4 And Baylor is a bunch of guys who are like 6'8, who don't play basketball well, but can just block every shot and are more talented athletically than every other team.

Speaker 10 They are now, I see where you're going with that. They are now like a three-guard.

Speaker 10 They are kind of a diet version of the Illinois, the 0-5 Illinois team.

Speaker 4 Oh, I love the three guards.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Yeah, like they have like three really good guards.
They guard well. There's one guy who's like the designated scorer.
One guy's the designated assist man. One guy's a designated lockdown D guy.

Speaker 10 That's just how they operate. They play great defense.

Speaker 10 Baylor's going to be pretty good.

Speaker 10 I like that, but we want to talk about the Big Tens.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. All right.

Speaker 4 Iowa can't play defense, but everyone's excited about Iowa because Luke Garza is very good.

Speaker 10 He's good. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Iowa is going to be the most fun team in the Big Tens.

Speaker 10 So everyone listening that doesn't care and just wants to watch like good college basketball game or just sort of be entertained, Iowa is going to try to score 100 points every single time they get on the floor.

Speaker 4 They're going to give up 93 probably every single game, but

Speaker 10 they're going to score 100. Luca Gars is awesome.
Wees Camp is awesome.

Speaker 10 A lot is being made about Bohannon, their point guard, who was a senior last year, but was hurt again and then got to come back. He's like a seventh-year senior at this point.

Speaker 10 He's had like two hipsters. Iowa fans are really excited that he's coming back.
I'm not really sure how effective he's going to be, but yeah, that's the M.O. on Iowa.

Speaker 10 They might have the best offense in the country, but of all the good teams, they might have the worst defense.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Do eligibility rules apply? Is this year not count like it's in football?

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 10 I think you're right. Yeah, I think like my understanding is like guys can basically come back next year.
So

Speaker 4 Brad Davison gets another game. People are going to be so mad at him next year.

Speaker 5 I fucking love it.

Speaker 5 What about Michigan? What about Juwan Howard? I want to get excited about Michigan.

Speaker 4 No, no.

Speaker 4 All right, that was our Michigan. Wait, no, Michigan.

Speaker 5 What's going to be more disappointing? Michigan's football season or Michigan's basketball season?

Speaker 10 Michigan's football season. Michigan football sucking powers the basketball program.
I really think that's something. There's like something to that.

Speaker 10 Like the worse the football program does, the more people shit on hardball by saying Michigan is a basketball school now, which is good because like you're saying that to shit on hardball.

Speaker 10 But what's happening is like a real life narrative is building that like Michigan really is a bat, like a really good basketball school.

Speaker 10 So now Jerwan Howard, he has the number one recruiting class next year. That Michigan is a year away, we'll put it that way.

Speaker 10 They have the number one recruiting class next year, but uh, I really do think, like, the worst the football program does, like, the donors probably like are writing checks and they're like, do not give this to Harvard.

Speaker 10 Like, in the memo, it's like, do not pay hardball with this. Please funnel this to the basketball program.
It's like they get better the worst the football team gets.

Speaker 4 Wait, is Imani Bates? Is he going to Michigan State next year?

Speaker 10 He's like three years away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I see. He's one of those guys.
So, two years, I think every now and then you get a guy like, so Tony Scheffler, our friend, he coaches our high school basketball in Michigan.

Speaker 4 So he put me onto Imani Bates like four years ago when he was like in seventh grade. So I feel like a hipster being like, here he comes.
Like, I've been hearing about this guy.

Speaker 10 He's a junior, I think, in high school.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. He's like two years away.

Speaker 10 By the time he comes out, he'll probably go to the G League anyway.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I feel like I've been watching highlights of him for a decade.

Speaker 5 So, Mark, as an expert, how have you been getting ready for the season? Do you get like your hands on practice film? Have you been watching the real grainy stuff taken from the

Speaker 4 30s?

Speaker 10 This is a good, the one silver line about not having a tournament is we, we can just speculate on as to what would have happened.

Speaker 10 And so speculation is just running wild heading into this season where you can pretend like

Speaker 10 you know how many teams I've said won the national title last year? Like I've given it to Dayton. I've given it to, yeah, we'll give it to UCLA.
I've given it to Kansas. So going into this season,

Speaker 10 you can kind of, it's kind of a choose your own adventure. It's like Kansas is looking to build on the momentum of winning last year's national title and they're going to be good this year.

Speaker 10 Baylor, of course, was the best team in the country. Everybody knows that they were the best last year.

Speaker 10 So you just kind of like grab onto things like that and run with it. Whereas, usually, like, Iowa is a great example.

Speaker 10 Maybe Iowa gets upset in the second round last year, and then we're coming into this season, and nobody's high on Iowa.

Speaker 10 These guys are frauds, they're bums.

Speaker 10 We saw what happened in the second round when they were upset, but we didn't get a tournament. So now we're like, yeah, Iowa could be pretty good.
I don't know. And that's just kind of it.

Speaker 10 You shrug your shoulders.

Speaker 4 Wisconsin was playing their best basketball. That was actually probably the last sporting event I watched, Wisconsin winning the Big Ten title at Inc.

Speaker 10 When was the first Wisconsin game you watched? Was it before or after the February?

Speaker 4 I watched too much college basketball.

Speaker 4 I lost nothing for my job. You know, you watched college basketball.

Speaker 10 You'd be out on

Speaker 4 what?

Speaker 10 Dan, you came on our show and you said fire Greg Gard.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. No, there was because we lost to like

Speaker 4 fuck, who'd we lose to? We lost to like New Mexico in that tournament in Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm a reactionary fan.

Speaker 5 Well, the last thing I remember was UNC didn't not make the NCAA tournament last year, so they could still win it this year. Yeah,

Speaker 4 Blue Blood, they could be back. True.

Speaker 10 UNC,

Speaker 10 Duke, people forget, Duke was the very first team to say, we are out of the tournament.

Speaker 10 We are withdrawing from the NCA tournament. And Kansas followed right after.
So

Speaker 10 there's that.

Speaker 5 When it comes to UNC, though,

Speaker 5 Obviously, they can't be as bad as they were last year, right? That's just an aberration.

Speaker 5 They're going to be back. They're going to be a top 20 team.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 they'll be pretty good.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they're going to be, they're going to be, they're not going to be like as good as Carolina wants to be, but they're definitely going to be much, much better than they were last year, for sure.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they got a lot of good recruits, and um, yeah, they, they were, it was a mess last year, and and uh, uh, uh, Cole Anthony took a lot of the heat for that because he was like, he became like the face of Carolina, but they, they, they really weren't good, they just weren't, yeah, I wish that with everything that's going on, how weird this year is that we could just slip in, like Luke May should try to play again for Carolina this year.

Speaker 4 Like, no one would flinch. Everyone's like, Oh, yeah, he's there.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he might, yeah, you're absolutely. Luke May is the type of dude that is probably still around Chapel Hill, like practicing with the team anyway, right?

Speaker 4 Right, and it's like, oh, okay, then Luke May. All right, well, like, yeah, we'll allow it.
Um, we have to talk. I know that

Speaker 4 a lot of my followers and people who listen to the show are very, very excited about Illinois. They are going to be very good.
They are very good. They were very good last year.

Speaker 4 Do they have enough, though, because we know the Big Ten hasn't won a title in fucking forever. Do they have enough to maybe go all the way?

Speaker 10 I think Illinois is best suited for.

Speaker 10 Okay, I'm going to do a thing where I cast a wide net, so I can't be wrong.

Speaker 4 Love it.

Speaker 10 Wisconsin is best suited for the NCA tournament in the sense that

Speaker 10 I see Wisconsin going to an Elite Eight. That makes a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 10 Wisconsin is not. Wisconsin is not going to get over the hump.
Wisconsin

Speaker 10 could be very good.

Speaker 10 Wisconsin could go undefeated this year and be a one seed and be in the final four. And I am betting the house that they are not winning the national title.
They just don't have the final push.

Speaker 10 Illinois is the team that is the most likely to win a national title, I think. Now, having said that, they could flame out, but like

Speaker 10 the ceiling, if we're talking like ceilings and floors, Illinois has the highest ceiling to me.

Speaker 10 They have the most athleticism, I think, of all the good teams in the Big Ten. I don't think that's debatable when you look at like Iowa and Wisconsin.

Speaker 10 Well, those are the two teams you're up against. It's not not that hard.

Speaker 10 They play defense. They got DeSumo who's going to be, I think he's the best two-way player in the country.
He's going to be awesome. Coburn's like baby shack down on the low block.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they have a really, really good team. If you're in, this is definitely the best Illinois team since 05.

Speaker 4 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 10 I think Illinois is the team I'm the highest on in the Big Ten going into the season.

Speaker 5 Anytime you can drop a baby Shack in there, I'm all on board.

Speaker 4 And everyone will see his name who doesn't watch college basketball and be like, this guy's name's Cockburn. Yeah, it's Cockburn.
Yeah, that is always a fun thing.

Speaker 4 Now, one last Big Ten question from a, he's going to block us and never speak to us again, or he already expects it, and it's going to be fine when we shit on him.

Speaker 4 How bad is Maryland going to be for Scott Van Pelt? Oh,

Speaker 10 yeah.

Speaker 4 Because he takes it very, very, very seriously.

Speaker 10 He takes it a little like Van Pelt is, he takes it too seriously in the sense of like,

Speaker 10 if I'm Van pelt so if if i'm in his shoes and i'm coming into this season we just won the big 10 last year like maryland has has been the stepchild of the big 10 right like it's it's the big we don't want them in the big 10 we never it's never felt right them and rutters get them out of here but they finally win uh mark turjin was like a wrestling heel down the stretch he's talking shit to all the other big 10 coaches and press conferences and i remember they won at minnesota and it was like a it was a big win it kind of like secured the big 10 title for them and the very first question he was like coach great win how how you know how do you feel right now?

Speaker 10 And he, he basically used his, the very first question, he used his time to basically just bitch about how he has to play. He had to travel from Maryland to Minnesota on a weeknight to play a 9 p.m.

Speaker 10 tip game. He's like, fuck the Big Ten office for doing this to us.
Fuck all of you. Like, that was their attitude.
So, what I'm saying is, if I'm SVP, I just appreciate last year.

Speaker 10 I'm going into this year and I'm like, I don't care. We did it.
We pissed off the entire conference. We won a title.

Speaker 4 We can share.

Speaker 10 But I don't feel like he's going to do that. I feel like he's going to, like, the moment they start losing and you and I start joking about it,

Speaker 10 he's going to be very upset.

Speaker 4 Oh, I think always.

Speaker 4 Always. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I actually appreciate it with him because

Speaker 4 he just admits it. Like, this is my thing.
Like, Maryland hoops is the thing I care about more than anything. I actually think that's a healthy thing to pick one sport,

Speaker 4 one team, and be like, here's all of my emotional energy.

Speaker 4 and then not spread it out over multiple sports. And he's like, this is it.
If you make fun of Maryland hoops, I will be mad.

Speaker 4 Even if I smile in your face, I will put you on a list and I will hate you forever. That's true.
That's true.

Speaker 4 We've traded, Scott Vampel and I have traded just sending each other back pictures of like Wisconsin's Big Ten ring and Maryland's Big Ten ring because it was a share and like you can just argue about it forever.

Speaker 10 That's, I love that, yeah, the two of you, like Wisconsin won the Big Ten because they had an easy schedule down the stretch. They were absolutely dog shit for most of the year.

Speaker 10 Guys like you were saying, fire the coach. And then they went eight in a row.
And And like, now Wisconsin fans are like, we did it. We're awesome.
We bring everyone back.

Speaker 10 Let's forget that I hated this team for three-fourths of the season.

Speaker 4 What about Maryland?

Speaker 10 Maryland limps down the stretch. They should have won the Big Ten by like three games and they almost choked the whole thing away, but they won it.

Speaker 10 It's a very weird situation where the two of you are like celebrating, but you know, in the back of your minds, no, that was not a convincing.

Speaker 4 No, it was a share. It was a share of a title.
Michigan State, Maryland, and Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 Yeah. What about the best player to come out of the state of Wisconsin possibly ever? Jalen Johnson, right? But would you say the best Wisconsinite of all time?

Speaker 4 No, what about the West Virginia

Speaker 4 Pit Snoggle? No, Jordan McCabe, right?

Speaker 10 What about Tyler Heroes from Wisconsin? Yes, he is.

Speaker 5 He's a bucket.

Speaker 4 Is it Jordan McCabe? Am I saying that? Is that who it is? West Virginia?

Speaker 10 Is he from Wisconsin? He is.

Speaker 4 Because I remember when we went to see Huggy, they're like, we just got your boy, and they showed me, and he had like an and one mission.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was just palming the ball a little bit. That's like,

Speaker 4 I didn't know I even had a boy, but there we go.

Speaker 10 West Virginia is going to be good.

Speaker 10 I know you guys love Huggins as much as I do. They're going to be awesome.

Speaker 10 They're not doing the Press Virginia thing, though, this year, so be prepared for that. Why not?

Speaker 10 Because they don't have Javon Carter to piss everybody off.

Speaker 4 He's another guy who should come back. Yeah, he's.

Speaker 5 Have you been to West Virginia and seen Huggy Bear's setup that he has at practice with the treadmills right next to the court?

Speaker 10 I think I've just seen you guys talk about it. I think when you guys were there, that was the only time.
Yeah, I've never been to a practice there. I've been to the arena on game day.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've seen the game there, but yeah.

Speaker 5 If you have a minor fuck up in practice, he's like the Joe Judge of college basketball. He'll put you immediately on the treadmill and just stand next to you and watch you run.

Speaker 4 It's going like 12 miles an hour.

Speaker 5 And I've never been intimidated having somebody else watch me run before like I was when Huggins was watching us do wind sprints just with his arms folded.

Speaker 5 Like I wanted to puke my guts up for the guy.

Speaker 10 We did a preseason show for FS1 where we got to interview Huggins. And

Speaker 10 I've never been so nervous in my life talking to anybody.

Speaker 10 I because the whole time, like all you're trying to do, you're not even trying to interview him. You guys know this, you've talked to him, you guys have been, you know him well.

Speaker 10 Um, I was just trying to like, I just want him to, to, my goal was that he gets done with the interview and then he turns to his assistant. He's like, I like that guy.

Speaker 4 How do I become best friends with him?

Speaker 10 I want to be best friends with him. Like, that's what I want.
But you know, you're never going to do that.

Speaker 10 And you also know that, like, the one thing Bob Huggins, if you really love Bob Huggins, you know this about Bob Huggins is that the last thing that Bob Huggins wants to do is be interviewed by a dip shit like me.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 10 So it's like weird it's a it's a weird thing where it's like if i really cared about him i would just not interview him at all be like thanks coach but i'm gonna give you your free time back that would be the move yeah

Speaker 4 and then he's like i like that guy yeah pumped on the interview just for the satisfaction um so can you can you break hank's heart real quick and tell him why duke is going to stink duke uh because

Speaker 10 i mean

Speaker 10 Dude, their best player they're bringing back are two white dudes, basically. I mean, I guess Wendell Moore counts, but like it's Joey Baker, Matthew Hurt.

Speaker 10 Like, the duke does not have a great recruiting class i i feel like uh

Speaker 10 i i'll say this coach k was leading the charge to have every team make the nca tournament this year i don't know if you guys saw that that was like a proposal put out by the acc coaches and coach k threw his weight behind it yeah and i don't think that was a coincidence i think there was something to that i think coach k was like yeah these are weird times we should have everyone make the tournament and uh that's i just found i found the timing of that interesting yeah at a win every game canceled should just be a win on the coach's record yeah yeah yes it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm trying to run up the score here.

Speaker 10 And every game I lose during a COVID season should go to my assistant coach. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yep, absolutely. Call it the bad back season.

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Speaker 5 And now, more Mark Titus. What about Rick Petino? You mentioned this on John Rothstein's show, but I think that there's some truth to it.

Speaker 5 Rick Petino wants to delay the start of the season until basically after

Speaker 5 like the start of the NBA playoffs is the ideal point to start the season for old Rick.

Speaker 5 Do you think that he actually has a reason for asking for that, or is he just doing it to get his name in the papers?

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's a great question. I think

Speaker 10 I actually support his idea if we would have come up with this idea a few months ago.

Speaker 10 Because again, I see the future. The future is we all look up after the Super Bowl and say, wow,

Speaker 10 this pandemic's out of control again. Let's cancel everything and wait for the vaccine's just around the corner.
Are we sure we should be playing sports right now? Let's cancel everything.

Speaker 10 And then the vaccine comes out like April 1st, right after the tournament would have been played.

Speaker 4 Don't do that.

Speaker 10 And then every other sport's back. And then, like, I think that's where Petino's headset is like, wait for the vaccine.
But

Speaker 10 I like the idea in theory. I know you're a fan of my proposal, PFT, which is wait.

Speaker 10 The Final Four is going to be in Indy this year, not even just because they announced they're playing the whole tournament in one location, but it was scheduled to be in Indianapolis this year anyway.

Speaker 10 So have the Final Four during Memorial Day weekend, double it up with the Indy 500 and create the greatest.

Speaker 10 I mean, what better way would there be to celebrate a vaccine and we can all get together again? Yeah. There is indeed a vaccine, say in like April.
and or March or whatever it is.

Speaker 10 And then come May, Memorial Day weekend in Indianapolis, everyone descends and we set that city on fire with the Final Four and 95.

Speaker 5 That's our grit week right there.

Speaker 4 I hope it happens and we can give all the credit to Dan Dokich for doing that.

Speaker 4 And Rick Petino.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 the moral heartbeat of America.

Speaker 4 What is... So we only say nice things about Rick Petino now, or I personally only say nice things.
I don't even know if I told you, but I do have a stalker that

Speaker 10 you told me.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you guys went to the press conference that you had like a dicey situation where you're like, I kind of have to look over my shoulder because of yeah

Speaker 4 he popped back up some guy just randomly texted me and was like hey i'm what did he even say he said he made up a name and was like i'm rick patino's pa he's like i can i can make your life a very sticky situation yeah watch yourself yeah he's like he's like we could do it the easy way like we want to bury the axe or something like that i was like dude that's not the same easy way or the hard way yeah that's you're going to become very easy after 15 seconds and don't i did not laugh at that joke and credit to the iona staff because i reached out to them and i was like hey does this guy exist and they're like nope.

Speaker 4 So Rick Petino probably has no idea. It's not his fault.
There's just some crazy Rick Petino fan who, every time I say anything about him, texts me and is like, you're going to die.

Speaker 4 But is Rick Petino, so how's Iona going to be? And do you think, like, what's the timeline for Rick Petino to be back in major college basketball? Maybe St. John's.
I don't know. But

Speaker 4 how long will it take? Because we need him back in our lives.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's going to be back, by the way, because he's talking about this is his last stop and and he just wanted to he he's excited to retire at iona and all that kind of stuff but you guys remember you were there at his press conferences how many times did he retire that summer yeah how many times how many interviews did he say where this is my last interview uh i'm doing this just for closure and then then then uh two days later he's on dan patrick's show and he's like this is my last interview dan i'm doing it for closure i'm retiring i'll never coach again um so he's saying that at iona but uh yeah he's definitely this is this is a stepping stone for sure he's just trying to get his way and i i think the place for him i'm calling my shot, is going to be Boston College.

Speaker 10 Boston College is about to fire their coach. They were going to fire their coach last year, but then COVID hit.
They just got a new athletic director. His contract's kind of running up anyway.

Speaker 10 Boston College is about to be open, and it's a Catholic school. I own it as a Catholic school.
Rick Petino is a Catholic man.

Speaker 10 It all lines up.

Speaker 4 Coach

Speaker 4 College.

Speaker 10 Old Big East ties. Boston College has like some, you know, they had the 1979 point shaving scandal.

Speaker 10 They have a little checker pass themselves, so they'll get together and they'll be like, listen, bygones are bygones. You're reformed, we're reformed.

Speaker 10 Let's get together and give each other another chance. What do you say?

Speaker 5 I love how your mind's thinking on that one. And thinking back to that press conference, I don't even remember what he was doing in that, like what the purpose of the press conference was.

Speaker 5 He was just giving a press conference to say, fuck you.

Speaker 4 To not apologize. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's like, I'd like to welcome all the journalists here to tell them to suck my dick.

Speaker 4 I just know that whenever, and again, I'm not saying anything bad about Rick Petino. I am.
I officially am not.

Speaker 4 But when you do a press conference at your lawyer's office, never a good sign.

Speaker 4 It's like things are going well.

Speaker 10 Do you remember that whole summer he kept invoking his brother-in-law who was killed in the 9-11 attack?

Speaker 10 And he kept doing it as like a sympathy thing because

Speaker 10 the dorm in Louisville that the strippers were at. that caused the whole thing was named after his brother-in-law.

Speaker 10 So for some reason, he felt like when he would do these, you know, people would ask him like, Rick,

Speaker 10 you've lied throughout this whole process. You've cheated many times over, and you finally got caught and fired for it.
Like, do you want to say you're sorry?

Speaker 10 He's like, My brother-in-law died in 9-11. And I think, uh, and you're like, What does that have to do?

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, that was the reason why he couldn't be guilty because never in a million years would he send hookers over to a building that had his dead brother's name on it.

Speaker 5 So, like, obviously, like, you can't, you can't even look at him as a suspect.

Speaker 4 And the craziest thing about Rick Petino, and this will be actually be in defense of Rick Petino. I mean, he's obviously a phenomenal coach, but he's no crazier than any other major college coach.

Speaker 4 He just got caught with some of his crazy.

Speaker 10 This is why Rick Petino is pissed off about why he was fired.

Speaker 10 Because when the dust has settled, and I guess it hasn't completely settled yet, but the FBI whole situation, where if you're not like in the nitty-gritty of college basketball,

Speaker 10 the FBI thing hit, you expected like everybody to be fired, right?

Speaker 10 Rick Petino is basically the only name that carries any weight that was fired over all of that. And I think he's bitter about that.
And rightfully so. He's looking around.
He's like, what the hell?

Speaker 10 Like Sean Miller, Will Wade, hello.

Speaker 10 And I got fired. And he's the old, he's the guy who kind of invented the game, too.
So he's like, why does Will Wade get to keep his job and I don't get to keep mine?

Speaker 10 And I think he's just upset about it, which is why he's definitely going to get a power conference job.

Speaker 10 He's definitely going to like make one last push where he's going to have a good team that's like final four good.

Speaker 4 He's got to go to be at Boston College.

Speaker 5 He's got to go to a team that is practiced and tried and true at just ignoring scandals because they will go away.

Speaker 5 Like LSU was just like, yeah, all right, there might be stuff allegedly on tape, but if we just don't talk about it, we'll let them back on campus after a week and a half.

Speaker 4 And you've said this, Mark, and it is true. Like,

Speaker 4 Rick Petino got screwed. The NCAA is so hypocritical with everything they do.
And the only reason they cared is because the FBI got involved.

Speaker 4 And the NCAA looks the other way on everything because they have billions of dollars at risk. So if you are Rick Petino, I think you do have kind of a fair gripe.
Be like, yo, this was the deal.

Speaker 4 You guys look the other way. I put out a good team.
We all make a shitload of money. That's college basketball.

Speaker 10 Exactly.

Speaker 10 That is his whole point of view. That's why all of his rhetoric is like, I take full responsibility, but none of this is my fault, which like contradicts the idea of taking full responsibility.

Speaker 10 Like he said,

Speaker 10 sort of stuff. But it's kind of true.
That's where he's coming from. He's like, I don't understand.
This is the game. I played the game.
We're all playing the same game. Why am I going down for this?

Speaker 10 I don't understand. I'm very confused.

Speaker 10 But he'll be back. He'll definitely be back.

Speaker 5 If you go back and you watch that HBO miniseries that came out, it was just like Christian Dawn.

Speaker 5 the only reason why the coaches even got involved was because the FBI told the runners to get the coaches involved, to try to trap them in it, when they didn't have, like, there was no reason to be bringing them.

Speaker 5 They get paid millions of dollars a year. They don't need $20,000 for one guy going to their school.
So really, it comes down to the FBI had a hard-on for Rick Petino at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 And we're in a fucking Bizarro world that we find ourselves defending Rick Petino this vociferously on a podcast. But I will continue to make fun of him.

Speaker 4 I will make the fact that Big Brother.

Speaker 4 I will not.

Speaker 5 I have a mid-major question for you.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 5 Sister Gene's still alive.

Speaker 4 I thought you were going to say, is Creighton going to be good this year? Well, it's piss everyone off. Creighton is going to be.

Speaker 5 Creighton is not going to be good this year. Creighton is going to be great this year.

Speaker 4 AOC, right? Yes, AOC.

Speaker 5 AOC. Is AOC going to make the difference?

Speaker 4 Or,

Speaker 5 okay, pick one of these two mid-majors.

Speaker 4 Creighton or Loyola with what's his name?

Speaker 5 Cameron Crutwig, the big guy that

Speaker 4 can dish it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, if I'm, which team is going to be better between those two? Yeah, it's definitely Creighton.

Speaker 10 The mid-major to watch out for, the mid-major to get excited about is

Speaker 10 UConn.

Speaker 4 They get so mad when you say that. It's awesome.

Speaker 10 UConn is the only blue-blood mid-major we have in college basketball. I think

Speaker 10 that's what's so unique about Xavier. They are simultaneously a blue blood, but also a mid-major.

Speaker 10 The serious answer, I think Richmond is a team a lot of people are excited about. They play great defense.
They bring a lot of guys back.

Speaker 10 That's the saying as we, as we, that's the reason to get excited about them. Um, don't ask me to name any of those guys.

Speaker 10 I just say they bring them back, and then you guys nod along and be like, oh, that sounds good. Yeah.
Uh,

Speaker 10 they're going to be pretty good.

Speaker 10 I think they're the favorites in the A-10. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't know who there are a couple like Southern Conference teams like Furman and UNC Greensboro people are high on.

Speaker 10 Um, but you know, whatever.

Speaker 4 What is UConn going to be good? I fucking love Danny Hurley. I love, love, love Danny Hurley.

Speaker 10 Uh, so they got this guy, James Book Knight, who is not Kimba Walker, is not Shabazz Napier, but

Speaker 10 the team is going, like if the team is going to be good, they're going to have to follow the Kimba Shabazz model of just like, give the ball to this guy and everyone get the hell out of the way.

Speaker 10 So I don't know how good they're going to be, but they're going to be UConn. They're going to feel like UConn, you know, like if they squeak into the tournament.

Speaker 10 It's going to feel like UConn because James Book Knight is just going to have to average 30 a game and carry the team on his back, which is going to be awesome.

Speaker 4 They need, if they're going to be truly UConn, then they need a big guy who's like a little limited, but has a few huge games, like a Josh Boone. Who was the other guy?

Speaker 4 Well, Hashim Tobeat was.

Speaker 10 Dylan Nuevo was on some good teams.

Speaker 4 Jeff Griffin? No.

Speaker 4 Jeff Griffin? No.

Speaker 4 Jeff Adrian. Jeff Adrian.
He was in that line where it's like every now and then they'd have a huge game. You'd be like, oh, fuck, this guy's real.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Who was that on the

Speaker 10 shit they had I get the 14 of the level. It's been so long.
I get those teams. Was it Oriake?

Speaker 10 Was that Oriaki one of the guys where he was just like randomly during the NCAA tournament run would have like three good plays?

Speaker 4 Yes. He kind of disappear again.
Damn. Watch out for them.
Yeah. I love Danny Hurley, though.
I want him to do well because he is.

Speaker 4 He is so. I actually think we should probably, now that I'm saying this out loud,

Speaker 4 it might be too late, but maybe for Big East play.

Speaker 4 Wait, is Yukon back in the Big East? Yeah, they are. Yeah, they're back in the Big East.
This year. Yeah.
we could do like over, under, for the season technical fouls for Danny Hurley.

Speaker 4 He's good for one every like three games.

Speaker 10 The Dan Hurley move

Speaker 10 I am calling, it's not going to happen, but it'd be awesome. Is Sean Miller gets fired at Arizona, and then Dan Hurley gets hired in Arizona.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Then Hurley.

Speaker 10 Hurley is at Arizona State in Arizona. Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 10 That's what I have my fingers crossed. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 4 All right, so let's do a little Pac-12, and then we'll circle back and finish with the ACC.

Speaker 4 There's another

Speaker 5 huge news. We're just going to skip over Shaka Smart's hair.

Speaker 4 Oh, well, we talked about Kansas and Baylor, but yeah, Shaka Smart. Yeah, he's got hair.

Speaker 4 Pac-12, do we care? Are they going to be like if

Speaker 4 we do the traditional stereotypes of the Pac-12, Washington will have three lottery picks and win four games.

Speaker 4 Oregon will be really, really good because their coach is awesome. UCLA will have a moment where everyone will be like, is UCLA back?

Speaker 4 And yeah, Arizona.

Speaker 10 Arizona will be be good and losing the elite A.

Speaker 10 Oregon will be good, but Oregon will be good, but in a way that like kind of what you just did without even realizing it, where you don't know anyone's name.

Speaker 10 You don't even know the coach, like most people only know the coach's name. They just know that Oregon's good.
Maybe you're lucky if you know Peyton Pritchard was the point guard there, but like

Speaker 10 no one actually watches them. You just know you're supposed to say they're good.
And you, yeah, that seems to be what happens with Oregon. Oregon's going to be good.

Speaker 10 So Arizona is going to suck.

Speaker 10 They're going to be really bad. UCLA is going to be good.
It's UCLA and Arizona State. I think, in all seriousness, the Pac-12 will be worth watching.

Speaker 10 The Pac-12 has been good, but I think they were good last year. But I think this is the first season in a long time going into the season.

Speaker 10 I'm actually excited to watch Pac-12 basketball in a very long time. They have Stanford has a kid, a five-star kid, Zara Williams, who played with Bronny James and D.

Speaker 10 Wade's son and was actually the best player on that team.

Speaker 5 That's a fun little stat. Yeah.

Speaker 10 So Stanford is going to have like a good, a five-star that's going to be good.

Speaker 10 Arizona State's loaded. They got they got five stars, and Remy Martin's back.
He's an all-American. Um, UCLA brings their whole team back.

Speaker 10 They're kind of the Wisconsin of the West Coast where like they got hot at the end of the year and um they won most one to Pac-12.

Speaker 4 So yeah, they're giving Pac-12 is gonna be good. Good.
Yeah, I'm excited about that.

Speaker 10 I love the you guys are Mick Cronin guys.

Speaker 4 We love Mick Cronin.

Speaker 5 I feel like you make fun of Mick Cronin a lot, but Mick Cronin.

Speaker 10 Oh, I don't understand how I got this reputation.

Speaker 5 Mick Cronin, like I because you're a big Hollywood guy, you're a big West Coast guy, and you lost your roots in Ohio.

Speaker 10 I just like LeBron James, myself, and Mick Craig, we're the triumvert of guys from Ohio that moved to L.A. And

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 10 I was just trying to find a way to invoke LeBron. That was really it.

Speaker 4 I mean, you do look good. I actually texted you.

Speaker 4 I texted Titus totally out of the blue like two months ago, and I was like, hey, bro, we don't do this enough with each other as men, but you're looking good. I appreciate that.
You did look good.

Speaker 4 I saw you. I saw a picture of you on the beach.
I was like, dude, you're skinny.

Speaker 10 The bulimia is doing me well, yeah.

Speaker 10 Where are we at on the diet?

Speaker 10 Edmund, are we flowing?

Speaker 4 We gave up till January 1st. We threw in the towel.

Speaker 4 There's a moment every November, early November, where I'm like, am I going to try? Nope. All right.
And now,

Speaker 4 even Thanksgiving week, I'm like, dude, it's Thanksgiving week. I'm going to eat.
What are we going to say? I will say 24 days.

Speaker 8 At one point, you said you were going to be like, I'm going to start doing this thing where you work out for an hour and a half.

Speaker 4 Oh, 75 hard. 75 hard is my new thing.
It's every day for 75 days straight.

Speaker 4 If you fuck up, you have to restart. You have to work out for an hour and a half.
You have to be on a diet. You have to drink a gallon of water and read 10 pages of a book.
Jesus.

Speaker 5 And then you have to tweet about it and tell everybody that you did it. I think that's probably a part of the 75 hard diet, too.

Speaker 5 Nobody does that diet without telling everybody.

Speaker 4 Right. And it's one of those things that you find this diet like late at night on a Saturday after watching too many sports and eating ice cream.
You're like, all right, tomorrow, 75 hard.

Speaker 4 I haven't started yet because that's actually the hard part.

Speaker 4 It's so hard, I haven't even started.

Speaker 10 In all honesty, living in California, it just, it's, I don't know, it's hard to find things that have gravy on them. It's

Speaker 4 the weather's always nice. Lots of prayers, man.
That sucks. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 The weather's always nice. So you kind of feel like you got to be in shape because you're like, you can't hide it with sweats.

Speaker 4 Right. So how much are you benching? Yeah.

Speaker 10 286.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's pretty good. 286.
That's a yard. You're fucking Jesus.
That's huge.

Speaker 4 Yeah, is that? Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's really impressive. It's a random big number.

Speaker 5 For a former college athlete, that's really impressive to be able to do that. 286.

Speaker 10 286. I couldn't imagine benching even a pound less than that.

Speaker 4 I don't know what I would think. Yeah, you miss your, what was that restaurant you took us to in Columbus? Where we walked in?

Speaker 4 Nancy.

Speaker 10 Where do we go?

Speaker 4 Did we go to Nancy's laundry? Well, we walked in and Ty's like, let's go to this place. It's a great place.
Walk in, look to the right, and he's like, oh, yeah, there's a frame picture of me here oh

Speaker 4 totally varsity

Speaker 10 shout out varsity club yeah yeah i like that yeah i need to do that i need to i need to work that again i need to get back to columns and make that happen uh by the way speaking of we we brought up billy bench pressing and rascillo and all that oh is that what you're talking about no you didn't you said you just i gotta ask yeah coincidence put on the headphones billy i i want to ask you guys uh should i

Speaker 10 you guys know rascillo better than me should i how do we are we worried about him at all because i keep seeing these videos that he's putting putting out with the ringer and he came on your show and everything.

Speaker 10 You talk, you're making fun of my backdrop having this. This man looks like he's in a basement.

Speaker 4 Like, no,

Speaker 10 and I'm just worried. I know he lives down in Manhattan Beach, so I'm the California.
We're all, we're all four, like, you know, we're kind of buddies and all that. I'm the California guy.

Speaker 10 Like, should I worry about him? Should I go down and visit him? I don't know. I never know how to approach Rascillo.
Like what I was talking about with Huggins earlier. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's the same with Priscillo.

Speaker 10 Like, I love the guy to death, but I also think that the last thing he wants is me to text him and say, what's up, bro? You want to hang?

Speaker 4 I think his backdrop in his room that

Speaker 4 looks like a dorm room. I think that's just response to a certain podcast he did like six months ago.

Speaker 5 Trying to keep it nice and

Speaker 4 minimal. I'm a regular guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if you go into the next room, that's where you have like the original war halls that hang on.

Speaker 4 Right, right, right.

Speaker 4 He's got what is the what's the dude who has like the big bubble sculptures? The Jeff something.

Speaker 5 Were they the Kalichis?

Speaker 4 Khaleesis? Bubbles.

Speaker 4 We're so cultured.

Speaker 5 I'm looking. I saw one down in Atlantic City earlier.

Speaker 4 Bubble Sculptures, Jeff. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 The mouse head things? No, Jeff Coons. Jeff Coons.
No, I'm thinking about something else.

Speaker 4 The balloon animal. Yeah, the big balloon.

Speaker 4 Jeff Koons. Yeah, yeah.
Dude, we know Art.

Speaker 5 No, who's the other guy that does the glass artist? It's chaluli.

Speaker 4 Chaluli. That's what I was thinking.
That's the hot sauce.

Speaker 5 Chalula is the hot sauce.

Speaker 4 Chaluli is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's got original Chalulis. He actually has just

Speaker 5 got an overhead projector that just shows his Onus Wagner card on his projector screen on the wall at all times.

Speaker 4 So it's kind of like art. I think you should just hit him up.
Rossillo's one of those guys that every time I talk to him, it's like, man, I should talk to him more because it's just

Speaker 4 thinking about stuff better than everyone else. That's kind of where he's always at.

Speaker 5 I think the nicest thing you could do to Rossillo as a friend is just hit him up and be like, hey, man, you want to hang out sometime? And let him reject you.

Speaker 4 And he'll feel good about that.

Speaker 5 But that's as good as hanging out for him.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 4 all right i'll i'll do it that way i just i i feel i feel like maybe you know the guy's a little bit of a loner already and then the quarantine situations happen california we're still like very shut down out here so i just you know i worry about him and uh i don't know i don't know how to play it i don't want him i i yeah i don't know if i'm supposed to reach out to him or not and yeah i don't know if he said this on the pod but i might have said it but he in the most resilient thing ever he built a gym in his uh in his garage i think and he when he was building it he like got trapped behind it trying to build it and like literally almost died from his squat rack, which would have been the greatest death of all time if Ryan Rosillo died because he got stuck behind his squat rack for seven days.

Speaker 4 Like texting me was like, yeah, for like the last 20 minutes, I've been stuck behind my squat rack trying to build this thing.

Speaker 4 You know what you should do?

Speaker 5 You should just find out where he's going to be shooting hoops one day, roll up,

Speaker 4 and then like

Speaker 5 let him get hot for a second, just warming up, and then right before they pick teams, go out there and start filling it up.

Speaker 4 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kind of like guard him, and yeah,

Speaker 10 that's a good call.

Speaker 4 All right, Shaka Smart, give us some Texas talk.

Speaker 10 He has Texas five-star recruit, Greg Brown. That's a local kid from Austin.

Speaker 10 It's the same thing every year with Texas. It's like this has to be the year for Shaka.
He's got a good team, but they're actually not that awesome.

Speaker 10 And they're in the the big 12 which is going to be loaded um

Speaker 10 i don't i i think it's just going to be more the same like he's going to do enough to give you

Speaker 5 to make you sort of believe that he could turn the corner at some point but they're not going to turn the corner this year so yeah they're not he's going to be back next year yeah he's i think he's going to be fired this year uh they would go back and take rick barnes in a heartbeat i think over the shaka smart experiment they should just have matthew mcconaughey move his way down the bench over the course of the season until he's just coaching the team i actually feel like matthew mcconaughey just through the power of his motivation and the talent that is assembled in Austin, he could probably be a better coach than Chaka Smart.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I don't disagree with that. I think you're right.
I think, yeah.

Speaker 10 What if that's all really Texas needs? Is this McConaughey?

Speaker 10 Is he tight with the basketball program?

Speaker 4 He is. Yeah, he's on the bench.
He's on the bench sometimes. He's got this.
Well, I know he's tight with football.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's on the bench sometimes in the basketball team.

Speaker 4 I like your analysis of Texas. Essentially, they will have a second half lead against Kansas and blow it and lose by five.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And then I will be like a year from now, I will be doing the exact same show we're doing now with a previewing next season. And you're like, Shaka, what do you think?

Speaker 10 And I'm like, Texas will be all right.

Speaker 10 But I don't know.

Speaker 10 We'll see. This is the year, though.
Yeah. Shaka has to show me this year or else he's gone.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, it's the same thing. I forgot.

Speaker 4 We also have to talk to SEC. My guy, Musk.

Speaker 4 Arkansas, baby. Come on.

Speaker 4 I mean, obviously it's Kentucky and Tennessee, right? But Arkansas is a good team. And Isaiah Joe, like, he was injured a couple, couple games last year.

Speaker 4 They weren't great last year, but I believe in Musk more than probably like almost every coach in the league because he just does a thing with the transfers. He has a style, and it works.

Speaker 4 Nevada was so good when he was there.

Speaker 10 He's very fun. He's a little corny, but he's self-aware of how corny he is.

Speaker 10 I don't think they're going to be that good, but I don't think the SEC is going to be that good. So that could work in their favor to where they could, I think Florida is going to be all right.

Speaker 10 We said Tennessee and Kentucky are the favorites, certainly.

Speaker 10 But yeah, after that, like LSU could have a pretty good team, which like that is, that is the villain situation that I think is brewing that I don't think America is really ready for is like Will Wade having a juggernaut at LSU.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 10 Yeah, like, because

Speaker 10 the thing is, like, Bill Self is, you know, there's, there's bad vibes of Bill Self and the FBI situation, but Bill Self's kind of earned the right. He's like an old head.
We've seen him before.

Speaker 10 We're familiar with him. And the same with K, like all these other guys, it's like it's a devil you know type situation.

Speaker 10 So you kind of like don't love what he's up to, but and you know, you're used to it. Will Wade is the newcomer.
And I think the idea of Will Wade just like setting everything on fire.

Speaker 10 And you guys watch the documentary. I mean, like Sean Miller, his approach was like trying to be subtle and having fall guys and all that.
And they said many times over, Will Wade's a gangster.

Speaker 10 Like he'll be on the phone straight up talking to these people, offering money left and right.

Speaker 10 And the idea of Will Wade having a great team at LSU would break the college, like it would just break college basketball.

Speaker 10 People would lose their, like, the old heads that cover college basketball would be beside the Pat Forty would just be in rage, writing column after column.

Speaker 10 Like, this is disgraceful what LSU has done.

Speaker 5 Digger Philips would be like just snapping highlighters and half on television.

Speaker 5 I like that. People don't talk enough about the SEC being the conference of coaches this year.
They get a lot of shine in football, but in basketball, they've got our guys.

Speaker 5 They've got Buzz Williams, Tom Creen.

Speaker 4 Please tell me.

Speaker 5 Please tell me one of those two guys is going to have a decent team this year.

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 10 But Buzz Williams will have a better team than Tom Creen. But,

Speaker 10 yeah, Tom Creen already won this year. He had the number one pick in the draft.

Speaker 4 That's true.

Speaker 5 He should get that framed and put it behind him when he does interviews like Coach Cowell does with all of his number one picks.

Speaker 5 So obviously they have like Coach Cowell. They've got just a shitload of great coaches in the SEC.

Speaker 4 Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes,

Speaker 5 Muscleman. Frank Martin, who said that he wishes that he was a football coach, which is the best quality that you can have in a basketball coach.

Speaker 10 Ben Hallen's in the SEC. He went to three Final Fours at UCLA.
He's at Mississippi State now, and he's kind of forgotten about.

Speaker 4 Definitely forgotten about.

Speaker 10 Nobody even remembers that he's coached. He went to three-straight Final Fours.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right, ACC, who's going to win it?

Speaker 10 Virginia.

Speaker 13 Virginia's going to win it.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Awesome. Over-under 52 points a game for Virginia.

Speaker 10 They'll be better than they.

Speaker 10 That's a great question. They'll be better than they were last year offensively.
But yeah, they're not going to.

Speaker 10 It's going to be the same old, same old with Virginia. But that's why they're going to win it.

Speaker 10 Duke is too young and too dookie. Duke doesn't even win the ACC anymore anyway.
They haven't won it in 10 years. It's true.

Speaker 10 Carolina is just not good enough, I don't think. Florida State's the other one.
It's like basically those four. Virginia is by far the best team.
So I think Virginia is going to win it.

Speaker 4 Virginia is just.

Speaker 4 I can't get mad at Virginia because they play literally the same style as Wisconsin, just a little bit better.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I mean, it is one of those things where you don't think you're fat until you see a picture of yourself.

Speaker 4 That's when I watch Virginia basketball, I'm like, oh, this is the team I root for. I get why people hate us.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 I don't know. I don't know really what else.

Speaker 10 They're going to actually be good, and that's the other frustrator. But last year, Virginia wasn't that good by their standards.

Speaker 10 So I think there's a little delight in the idea of them not scoring a lot of points because you're like, yeah, they're not really a threat anyway. They're going to,

Speaker 10 but, but this year they're going to be good. They're good enough to win a national title, which would they be repeat champs if they want? They'd have to be.

Speaker 4 I guess so.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I just want to play back-to-back titles. I want them to play.
We had the all-time moment. I think it was against Purdue maybe last year, where the over-under was like 99.5.

Speaker 4 And it's like, how is this possible? And then you bet the over-under, it's electric.

Speaker 10 Last year, as a reminder, Virginia last year opened the season. They held Syracuse to 34 points.

Speaker 4 And Gary or John.

Speaker 10 That was Syracuse's first game.

Speaker 4 They scored 34 points.

Speaker 4 See,

Speaker 4 I can't joke about those because there was that

Speaker 4 Big Ten tournament game. I think it was Wisconsin-Penn State, where I think it was like 60 points total scored.

Speaker 4 Do you remember that game?

Speaker 10 I do remember that game. Yeah, that was like the, who were the best players on Wisconsin?

Speaker 4 I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 4 I think Wisconsin scored 32 points.

Speaker 4 It was... Oh, 36-33 was the final.

Speaker 10 Yeah, 36-33. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's so bad.

Speaker 10 What year is that, like 12?

Speaker 4 2011.

Speaker 4 11.

Speaker 4 Oh, my guy, Taylor Battle, was playing on Penn State.

Speaker 10 Was that like Jordan Taylor and John Lure?

Speaker 4 Yeah, John Luhr, Josh Gasser,

Speaker 4 Bruzowitz. God damn it.
So, yeah, I can't. I recuse myself from the conversation about low-scoring teams.

Speaker 5 I'm going to give a back-to-back title to UVA, though, if they win again. And only because I can count that for Washington, D.C.

Speaker 4 area championships.

Speaker 5 Title James. It's close enough.
It's like two and a half hours, three hours away. We'll take it however we can get it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 One fun thing that I picked up this year is a brand new team,

Speaker 5 Dixie State. Do you know where Dixie State is?

Speaker 10 I don't, but if I guessed.

Speaker 4 Connecticut.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 It feels like a Texas school.

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 10 I know Texas doesn't count as Dixie, but it just feels like Texas is always the answer.

Speaker 5 It's in Utah.

Speaker 4 It's in Utah. Utah.

Speaker 5 Dixie State is in Utah, and they're a brand new basketball program.

Speaker 4 You've got to learn their mascot, Mark.

Speaker 9 That's like Utah. That's a good call.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Utah and the Jazz, yeah.

Speaker 10 That's a great, great, great callback.

Speaker 10 Yeah, what is their mascot?

Speaker 4 Trailblazers or something? He's going to do a fox hit in like two seconds. Yeah, it's okay.
Make sure to use that.

Speaker 10 One thing to look out for is...

Speaker 5 I just like the idea of there being a brand new basketball team. Like, they just get born.

Speaker 10 Well, Tarleton State's another one. I think they're in the same conference.
Tarleton State is Billy Gillespie.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 Billy Gillespie is the coach of Tarleton State.

Speaker 4 Trailblazers. The Trailblazers for Dixie State.
Tarleton State?

Speaker 10 Did anybody else catch that? What?

Speaker 10 I literally fucking called it.

Speaker 4 What? The Trailblazers. Yeah, you know you had that.

Speaker 10 I said Trailblazer. Yeah, as you were looking it up.
You had it.

Speaker 4 I'll be goddamn. Yeah, you get credit for that.
Tarleton State. I love that.
I might be a Tarleton State guy. Billy Gillespie.

Speaker 4 Oh, what a joke he is. All right.
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Speaker 4 Go to ccmlens.com slash take to learn more about your future home, buying experience, or refinancing needs, equal housing opportunity. Any last big things I'm thinking about?

Speaker 4 Like, you want to give us champion?

Speaker 10 Oh, a champion

Speaker 10 to win it all.

Speaker 4 Coronavirus.

Speaker 10 Screw it. I'll say Gonzaga.

Speaker 4 I think Gonzaga beats.

Speaker 10 Gonzaga beats a Big Ten team. I just don't know which team it is.

Speaker 10 I think Gonzaga finally does it. Our college.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's good. Our college basketball expert, Mark Titus, coming on and picking the number one team.

Speaker 10 Number one team in the country. Fascinating.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 With the best recruit in the country.

Speaker 4 Really caught on a limb there.

Speaker 10 Who's a dark horse? I'll pick a team that's unranked.

Speaker 10 Let me see. If I had to pick an unranked team, who am I picking?

Speaker 4 I like this.

Speaker 10 Whew,

Speaker 10 shit. None of them.

Speaker 10 UConn. Go UConn.

Speaker 10 Maybe that's what's going to happen. Maybe it's like this is a weird season.
This is going to be the dumbest season ever. Like, games are getting canceled left and right.
It is an absolute shit show.

Speaker 10 And I feel like maybe we get the tournament,

Speaker 10 just chaos is going to reign supreme. And it just feels like a UConn.
That's when UConn wins. That's when UConn is at their best, is when chaos is thriving.
And maybe that's what happens.

Speaker 5 It's also good for all the players that are really good in practice but can't score in games when they're fans.

Speaker 5 They're like, this would have been your year to be, you probably would have won player of the year this year.

Speaker 4 You're absolutely right. I would have been.
Oh, actually, that reminds me. Before we let you go, one last question.

Speaker 4 Remind us again who was on your AOU team?

Speaker 4 What? No, I forgot.

Speaker 4 People want to know.

Speaker 10 Do you want to talk about the Cavs season this year, too, and how I'm a die-hard Cavs fan?

Speaker 10 Whoops.

Speaker 4 Whoops.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 in all seriousness, Big Hat, how worried are you about LeBron getting six?

Speaker 4 With modern medicine and the HGH he's doing, I'm very worried. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And also stacking the teams and all that stuff. Yeah.
So

Speaker 4 skirting the salary cap, basically cheating. Yeah, with cheating, I think he could get six.
All right, he's kind of like,

Speaker 4 whatever, baby braun, he might brought baby braun himself. He has a resurgence here.
We're big on the baby brauns these days because he just

Speaker 4 every good player, he's like, that reminds me of myself.

Speaker 5 He just adopts them, yeah.

Speaker 4 DK Metcalf, baby braun, yeah, DK Metcalf. How many beat the shit out of the other?

Speaker 10 The other question I have: how many guys you got working on the show now? I feel like I haven't met a lot of people.

Speaker 5 We got six people in the studio right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Jake and Billy. Billy's been looking at his phone researching obelisks for the last hour.

Speaker 10 I only knew Jake is like the faux Rovelle. Yeah.
The fake Rovelle. And I just didn't know he's a college basketball man.

Speaker 5 He's a college basketball podcaster.

Speaker 4 He's got a show called Bench Mob. That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 5 No, the Bench Mob. We're Bench Mob guys.
You should go on the Bench Mob podcast.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'm buying Jake Marsh stock. Yes.

Speaker 4 You would love to have you on.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I would love to come on.

Speaker 10 Are they treating you well, Jake?

Speaker 4 I don't want you to get shoehorned as a

Speaker 4 FCM's on a lot for me. No,

Speaker 4 Jake is like the perfect rising star in the college basketball and media business. He's a Syracuse grad from the journalism.
Oh, great. I love it.

Speaker 4 Did play-by-play for Vermont for two years, you know, made his bones there.

Speaker 4 Now is calling Jenga.

Speaker 4 Jake, there's some context to it.

Speaker 10 Jake,

Speaker 10 when is your contract up?

Speaker 4 When can I hire you? All right, Cutter's line.

Speaker 4 If you know anyone that needs someone to call games, freelance.

Speaker 5 Let's put that out there into the universe. Once again, we'll say Jake is looking to be a play-by-play voice of any basketball.

Speaker 4 Oh, we should, we should, Jake, you should call a game, and I'll do.

Speaker 10 I'm trying to call some games, too. I'm trying to be the color commentator.
Let's do it. So let's do it.

Speaker 4 Do you put the plugs at Fox?

Speaker 10 Let's figure it out. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll get Fox to do it. We'll do

Speaker 10 some big sky conference.

Speaker 4 Oh, you guys should do Dixie State. Dixie State versus Charlton.

Speaker 4 I'm there.

Speaker 4 Are you going to any of these tournaments?

Speaker 10 Yeah, so next week I'll be in Maui, Maui, North Carolina.

Speaker 10 I'm flying out Friday. I'll be in Asheville all week.
We've got to get tested every day,

Speaker 10 all that kind of stuff. So it'll actually be a good tournament.
It's not going to be, you know, it's not going to be the same, not in Maui, not in the soft rims.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 Carolina's in it.

Speaker 10 Indiana's in it. Texas, Providence.
You guys love Ed Cooley.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I forget. Davidson's in it.
UNLV.

Speaker 10 I'm forgetting one, but yeah, it's a pretty good thing.

Speaker 5 They should let the coaches still wear the Hawaiian shirts.

Speaker 4 That's the nicest part of the night.

Speaker 5 I don't care that it's in North Carolina.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's what I'm wearing.

Speaker 10 All the coverage we're doing there,

Speaker 10 I'm wearing my Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses and just pretending I'm in Hawaii.

Speaker 4 Just promise me, because this will happen within, I would say,

Speaker 4 next three years, Barstow will have a feast week tournament. So you'll have to come to that.

Speaker 10 You'll have to come on. I will definitely come.
Where would it be?

Speaker 4 It'd probably be in the middle of Ohio or something. Are we on the call?

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, you don't know. Jake will be on the call.

Speaker 4 We gotta find

Speaker 4 the challenge.

Speaker 10 It's like a Caribbean, a

Speaker 10 cash-poor Caribbean country that you can like just like that would be excited to have you.

Speaker 4 That's on the island that had the fire fest. No, I think it's funnier if we do it.
Yeah, we'll take over that island.

Speaker 5 We'll set up tents.

Speaker 4 I think it's funnier if we find a small gym in Indiana or Ohio and we just totally treat it to like as biased as you can get where it's like, all right,

Speaker 4 the tournament is West Virginia and the worst

Speaker 4 seven teams we can find where West Virginia just gets like nine wins. And we just have them play back-to-back to back-to-back.

Speaker 4 And Huggy, all of a sudden you look up, it's November 24th, and West Virginia is 12-0.

Speaker 10 You should do it. You do it in an Indiana high school gym, and then

Speaker 10 you win favor with all the Indiana people because they just love that you're doing the Hoosier hysteria.

Speaker 4 They should do that for the tournament. Why aren't we playing a couple games there? I think it's too small.
I think it's like 10 seasons.

Speaker 10 The courts are shorter, but they have enough leeway.

Speaker 10 My dad, his entire life, was a high school athletic director.

Speaker 10 And I'm telling you, he's retired now, but if my dad was still an athletic director, the moment they make that announcement, my dad is getting on the phone to the school board saying, we got to knock our gym down.

Speaker 5 Wait, so are you telling me that that scene Hoosiers was full of shit when they measured the court?

Speaker 5 Some of the courts in Hoosiers. Yeah.
Like some of the courts in Indiana are not actually the same length.

Speaker 4 No, no, no.

Speaker 4 It's high school to college. High school to college is different.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 10 You're both right.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, because it wasn't still 10 feet. Yeah, that's right.
Of course, I remember the hoop being 10 feet.

Speaker 10 But the length of the court, yeah, is too the college court is 10 feet longer than an Indiana high school court. So Hoosiers was kind of lying to you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a little soul shows. I got a documentary.
I'm going to kill it. Wait, you're on the side of Hoosier's is kind of overrated, right? Oh, come on.
No, absolutely not. Are you crazy?

Speaker 4 I re-watched it during quarantine, and

Speaker 4 it hurt my soul.

Speaker 4 That and the program, I watched those two movies, and I was like, oh, not as good as I remember.

Speaker 10 No, Hoosiers is overrated in the same way Seinfeld is unfunny, and it's because every other sports movie that's come after it has tried to recreate Hoosiers.

Speaker 4 So now when you go back and re-watch it, I like Hoosiers. I'm saying I watched it back and I was like, it might not have been like when anyone would ask you, what's your favorite sports movie?

Speaker 4 I'd always be like, Hoosiers, Hoosiers, Hoosiers.

Speaker 10 Yeah, like the Model T is not a great car in 2020 either, Dan. Okay, we have to respect this place of history that it invented an entire fucking genre of movie, which is like the underdog, sappy.

Speaker 4 I think it's the last scene that bothered me because they like, they just didn't guard.

Speaker 4 They like didn't shoot. It was like a righty and they just shaded him left.

Speaker 10 You don't like Hickory style of play. You made that clear.
You don't like Virginia. You don't like Hickory playing stallball.
You wanted Hickory to

Speaker 4 shoot 3 and D.

Speaker 5 What was that movie where it was the guy and the girl playing pickup outside and it had the most preposterous one-on-one scene of all time? You guys know what I'm talking about, right?

Speaker 10 Was that...

Speaker 10 Are you talking love and basketball?

Speaker 5 Yeah, love and basketball. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Big catch mad because the basketball scene in Hoosiers doesn't match up to like it was poorly coached at the very no, I was just I watched Hoosiers the whole time and I was like, could you imagine like if you could just put Steph Curry in like 1950s Indiana?

Speaker 4 He's just like they would actually burn him at the cross. They'd be like, well, maybe for like, well, now we're getting

Speaker 4 like he's a witch.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 You watch the Bob QC highlights and you hear about how great of a player Bob Qesy was and you see his highlights and he like dribbles behind his back once.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and

Speaker 4 everyone just falls on the ground. Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 They start shaking.

Speaker 4 Oh, all right. Well, Mark, thank you.
As always, it's been fun. Everyone, go listen to Titus and Tate.
See him on Fox Sports. You also have a podcast with our friend Charlotte Wilder.

Speaker 4 You're everywhere, dude.

Speaker 10 It's going well.

Speaker 10 I enjoy Fox. Fox is treating me well.
We launched the, in all seriousness, I came on. When was the last time I was on here? Right after the tournament was canceled?

Speaker 10 You guys just basically patted me on the back and said, it's not your fault. It's going to be okay.

Speaker 10 yeah uh uh but

Speaker 10 so we launched the podcast right before season was was you know we had the season we did and uh i was i was really down on the dumps but everything's going well now and uh we're back so hell yeah it's good everything everything's going great at fox i'm happy i'm living a california lifestyle i don't see the last thing i have to report dan is uh the california teens are non-existent right

Speaker 10 uh coronavirus has i i think this might be a this might be a journalistic uh uh uh

Speaker 10 uh an assignment for billy Billy or something. Bring Billy out here to bench with Rostillo and then find out what happened to the California teens because they're nowhere to be found.

Speaker 10 I drive around and they're nowhere.

Speaker 10 They're done.

Speaker 4 I think they're all in the swing. They're in the California teens.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's all the TikTokers. Like the TikTok houses have taken them all up, gotten them off the top.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 10 I'm telling you,

Speaker 10 I live kind of close to the beach and there used to be a ton of them just hanging out and skateboarding and shit. I don't know where they are.

Speaker 10 I don't know what happened to them, but COVID has done a number on them and they're nowhere to be found. And I just, I find that interesting.

Speaker 10 That's the report from out here.

Speaker 5 Yeah, rounded up by a bunch of the PCG people got them.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes. All right, Titus.
Thanks so much, man.

Speaker 4 Happy college basketball back. Talk to you later.

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That goes for when you're riding taxis.

Speaker 5 I actually have a friend who was sitting in the backseat of a taxi, was not buckled up. They stopped short.
She went forward between the two seats, hit her head on the taxi meter. She's dead.

Speaker 4 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 That was inconsiderate of you, big cat. All right, sorry.
To jump R.I.P.

Speaker 4 Allie.

Speaker 5 Did she actually do that? No, No, she's alive. Okay, good.

Speaker 5 Where are your buckle?

Speaker 5 But she had to go to a wedding later on that day, and her face got messed up, and she had to put a lot of extra makeup on, but everybody knew that she was in a car accident that day.

Speaker 5 It was a big thing for her. Buckle up, even if you're in the back seat.
It does save lives. Wearing seatbelts will save lives.
Do the smart thing. Buckle up every trip, day or night.

Speaker 5 Click at her ticket.

Speaker 4 All right, let's do some segments. I'm fucking mad.
I'm mad not because Wisconsin, Minnesota got canceled.

Speaker 8 Aren't you happy they lost now?

Speaker 5 Oh, that's a good thing. Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 if they had won, this would have been way worse. Great spin zone.
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 Man, imagine how disappointed you would be. Imagine how pissed off you'd be at this virus.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. But no, now I'm just mad at stupid people who are like, can't go to the conference championship.
Like, dude, when you lose to Northwestern, you can't go to the...

Speaker 4 They're not going to lose 2L last three. I just like to comment.
Also, everyone's eligible for bowl games. You're still eligible, yeah.
Yeah, everyone is. So people are done.

Speaker 4 I want people to start reading the fucking rules once.

Speaker 5 You probably, yeah, you'll play in a decent bull game, game, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 I don't care. I just want to watch more football.

Speaker 5 But I just want to congratulate you on personal growth because you're not mad at Hank for this.

Speaker 4 No, I wouldn't be mad at Hank. No, I would never be mad at Hank.

Speaker 5 Never mad at Hank.

Speaker 4 No, I would not be mad at Hank for this.

Speaker 5 For this.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Hank for this. He had nothing to do with this.

Speaker 4 That would be maybe. Jake, maybe.
What did I do? You broke the news. Yeah.
So you're on the fucking hot seat.

Speaker 4 You'd rather learn it from me than your computer. I'm just kidding.
No, I appreciate that. I actually would rather learn it from you than all the people tweeting me, being very mean online.

Speaker 4 It's the holiday season. All right.
Let's do a little Sunday preview. Big games, by the way, in college football.
Iron Bowl, Alabama is going to fuck Auburn up.

Speaker 4 The stat I've been throwing out there, which I'll share with you right now.

Speaker 4 Nick Saban is 6-0 all time against Auburn as 14 or more point favorites. So when he has them, he has them.

Speaker 4 I love the Iowa-Nebraska game just because it's my favorite color game game of the year. And then ND Notre Dame versus UNC is going to be awesome.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's another good uniform game right there.

Speaker 4 Another good uniform game. So is Penn State, Michigan, which is going to be the toilet pole.

Speaker 5 Well, what's going to be funny about that is it's going to look like the real thing. It's going to look awesome.
Correct. And it's probably going to be close.
Correct.

Speaker 5 So you might walk out of this game thinking whoever wins is a good team. Don't fool yourself.
Right.

Speaker 4 Don't do that. Right, right.

Speaker 4 All right. Let's talk a little Sunday

Speaker 4 for NFL,

Speaker 4 Raiders, Falcons, go.

Speaker 4 I like the Falcons. I like the Falcons.
This does feel like this feels like.

Speaker 5 This is the week of home dogs for me.

Speaker 4 This feels like a

Speaker 4 Raiders. If you are

Speaker 4 going to be considered for real, you've got to beat the Falcons. You've got to beat them convincingly.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 5 I like the Falcons this week a lot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like a lot of these dogs, too. Chargers, Bills,

Speaker 4 it really actually kind of sucked not having Josh Allen in our life for a week. Like, I missed them.
I missed the Bills.

Speaker 5 I missed them big time. I like the Bills.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Giants, Bengals, pass. Giants are going to kill them.
I don't know. Good-ish Giants.
I don't know. I'm looking at the Giants schedule real quick.

Speaker 5 This is the ultimate game that reminds me that I have no idea what's going on in the NFL because obviously the Giants should kill them, right?

Speaker 4 They will.

Speaker 5 Everyone thinks they're going to win. They will.
I'm going to zag.

Speaker 4 They will.

Speaker 4 All right. Giants, Bengals is.
So, yeah,

Speaker 4 they're going to kill them. They're going to kill him.
Titans, Colts.

Speaker 4 Titans. Yeah, Billy.
All right, there we go. Titans, Colts, Titans.
I don't know. Are the Colts good?

Speaker 11 Titans got momentum.

Speaker 5 Are the Colts good? Their defense is good.

Speaker 5 I can't. Their offensive line is good when they're not being called for holding.
There's no chance that the refs come out and call as many holds as they did last week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's just impossible. It's impossible for that.

Speaker 4 Good point. Good point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know if

Speaker 4 the Colts, I just can't, like,

Speaker 4 imagine if the Colts went to the Super Bowl. I mean, they could, we've talked about this, they could man up the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 This is the part of the season, too, where it kind of sucks when you get, like, two bad teams going against each other. It's like, what's the point?

Speaker 4 Panthers, Vikings, like, what's the point? No point. No, whatsoever.
What's the point? Cardinals, Patriots, Hank.

Speaker 4 What's the point?

Speaker 4 Yeah. I think the Patriots are going to finish the stretch by going back and forth of like, ooh, look at the Patriots.
Ooh, they stink. So they'll win this game.
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 4 That kind of deal.

Speaker 5 I also think that Belichick Belichick is really good against teams that historically have sucked. Yes.
Like, I'm always going to look at the Cardinals franchises. Oh, they'll always stink.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 There's no chance that they can beat Bill Belichick at home.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.
No, there's absolutely, I mean, the Dolphins, Jets is the next game.

Speaker 4 Dolphins, I can't stop looking at the Dolphins and being like, easy win, easy win, and thinking like, easy win, but they're not. They're good.
What is going to happen with Tua?

Speaker 4 What is going to happen with Tua?

Speaker 5 Like, you got to start Fitzy here for the Revenge Game Factor.

Speaker 4 Fuarez admitted that Tua got benched because he sucked. So now what happens if Tua sucks again?

Speaker 5 Yeah, what's the altitude in New Jersey in the Meadowlands? Sea level. It's a swamp, right? What? So it might even be below sea level.

Speaker 4 Yes, it is.

Speaker 5 That's where Jimmy Hoffa's body's buried.

Speaker 5 You asked for the altitude. Yes,

Speaker 4 you're right.

Speaker 5 Appreciate it. Thank you.
I was genuinely curious of what the Meadowlands altitude was, and you answered, so I'm going to go with... I don't care if it's Tua or if it's Fitzy.
It's the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's the Dolphins.

Speaker 5 That's actually a pretty good way to sum up how I feel about the Dolphins this season. Yeah.
It doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. It's the Dolphins.
It's the Dolphins.

Speaker 13 I'm going with it. It's house money for the Dolphins right now.

Speaker 4 Oh, don't say that. You got to make it.
Last year, you guys made an awkward dolphin sex sound on every show. No,

Speaker 4 it was Dolphins getting murdered. Sex problem.

Speaker 4 Sex problem? You got to see a sex problem. Is that what sex sounds like to DJ? What kind of sex do you have? Who are you having sex with, Jake? You having sex with dolphins? No.

Speaker 5 You're addicted to dolphin fucking?

Speaker 4 There is that guy. Remember that guy? He fucked a dolphin and the dolphin killed itself.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 What? As heard on part of my take.

Speaker 4 You should know that. Billy, you're an animal guy.
You're an animal fucker. Well,

Speaker 8 now change. He only knows like three facts.

Speaker 5 Did the dolphin kill itself or was his blowhole just obstructed for a prolonged period of time?

Speaker 4 No, legit jumped out of the dog.

Speaker 13 I'm just saying, they've come a long way on this podcast compared to each other.

Speaker 4 They have.

Speaker 5 No, we like the dolphins now.

Speaker 4 Yes, we do like the dolphins now.

Speaker 4 Browns, Jaguars, is Minshew back?

Speaker 5 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 This is another game.

Speaker 4 So the Raiders and the Browns have a you better win and win convincingly type of games that that's the only way I'm going to start being like, okay, these are teams that are going to make the playoffs and make noise.

Speaker 5 Okay, I'm looking up the Jacksonville weather forecast for this weekend. It's going to be 32 degrees and sunny in Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 32?

Speaker 5 No, I'm just making that up.

Speaker 4 Damn. Well, no, that happens every now and then, and everyone freaks out.

Speaker 5 The 10-day weather forecast tells me that on Sunday, it's going to be 73, but it's going to be rainy. So it might be fucked up weather.
Yes.

Speaker 5 If it's fucked up weather, then yes, the Browns are going to win.

Speaker 5 And I just read that all the Jacksonville jaguars defensive staff it all has cocoa oh the coco it just keeps fucking following us around um

Speaker 4 all right 49ers rams uh this is a sneaky 49ers game right the 49ers we put the that team into the like it could happen was that the category yeah it's like eh maybe maybe maybe 49ers i'm never going to count out kyle shanahan yeah no and i and remember that we had this the fact from earlier this year that kyle shanahan and sean mcvey are are like best friends, but they don't speak football to each other because they're afraid that one of the other ones is going to steal their thoughts.

Speaker 5 And this is a game where

Speaker 5 McVay is going to think back in his photographic memory to all the weird stuff that Kyle's done to him in the past, but Kyle lives in the future.

Speaker 5 Kyle is going to be like, I'm going to do some new weird shit to him that he hasn't remembered yet.

Speaker 4 Saints, Broncos, I'm excited for this game because I feel like John Elway is going to watch Taysom Hill and try to offer him $500 million after this game.

Speaker 5 It's everything that he had wanted Tim Tebow to ever be. Taysom Hill is the version 2.0 of Tim Tebow.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 5 He's better at running the football. He's a more accurate passer.
He's more Christian than him because he's a Mormon, which is like, boom,

Speaker 5 I'm even stepping up on your virginity.

Speaker 5 I think that Taysom Hill is going to, he's going to make a lot of people in Denver long for the days of Tim Tebow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I really think that John Elwy is going to look at that and just be like, I want that.

Speaker 4 I'll give him everything, maybe kidnap him. Chiefs Bucs is going to be an awesome game.
I have a stat for everyone who's trying to bet this game. The

Speaker 4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers first half overs are 21, 4-1 since last year. Okay.
First half overs.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take the Bucs plus three.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 Because

Speaker 5 the site I'm looking at has 90% of the public on the Chiefs. I don't know whether or not

Speaker 5 it's early in the week, and everyone is remembering what they saw last night. Correct.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's not bad, though.

Speaker 5 I feel like I've seen the Bucs win 100 games this year in the 4 o'clock hour.

Speaker 5 That's just what they do. They just win afternoon games.

Speaker 4 Not at night.

Speaker 4 And then finally.

Speaker 5 And Andy Reid after Thanksgiving, too. Yes.

Speaker 4 Like he's going to

Speaker 5 have some discomfort abdominally.

Speaker 4 Bears, Packers. I don't.

Speaker 5 You said a couple days ago that the Bears are going to win this game. Now, you can't backtrack on that in

Speaker 4 48 hours.

Speaker 4 I'll get up for it. I'll think they're going to win this game when I wake up on Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 I just, it's very sad and very apropos of the state of the Chicago Bears offense that they have released a line and we don't know who the Bears quarterback is.

Speaker 4 It could be literally, it could literally be Nick Foles, Mr. Bisky, or Tyler Bray, and Vegas is like, they all suck.

Speaker 5 What happened to Deshaun Kaiser?

Speaker 4 I know I saw

Speaker 5 anytime your team brings in Deshaun Kaiser for a workout,

Speaker 5 that's a good sign that you should just kill yourself.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.
It's bad. Everything sucks.
Don't actually do that.

Speaker 4 It's the holidays. Don't actually do that.
Yeah, but that's how

Speaker 4 sad is that, though, those Deshaun Kaisers. But how sad is that

Speaker 4 those three quarterbacks are like, yep, all same. All suck.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, is there any little part of the back of your brain that's like, what does Cal Saloto look like?

Speaker 4 I'm just saying

Speaker 4 I don't root for injuries. And that's all I'm going to say.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I agree with you.

Speaker 5 I also don't root for injuries.

Speaker 4 If Shane McClellan is somewhere that

Speaker 4 wants to put on the pads, he's more than welcome to come and put on the pads. Don't root for injuries.
On the record, I do not root for injuries. I'm just saying bad.

Speaker 5 I don't have to watch the

Speaker 5 Bago Bears in prime time again.

Speaker 4 It's so painful. It's like

Speaker 4 you don't even want to see it. No, dude, I want them to be.
It's so embarrassing. I wish their games were at fucking three in the morning.
Yeah. Honestly.
I wish they were. On pay-per-views.

Speaker 4 So you have to choose to opt in to subject yourself to it. I wish that you would wake up on Sunday morning and be like, oh, the Bears played already.
They haven't scored. Okay, cool.
Bye. That's it.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 4 They're just, they're such a bad, bad team. Bad franchise.
Fuck, man. It sucks.
They're going to win on Sunday, though.

Speaker 4 All right. Before we do, guys on chicks and send you off to Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 Fuck you, your boss, right now who's listening to this.

Speaker 4 So here we go. So turn it up.
Walk on by.

Speaker 4 It is Friday, November. 27th.

Speaker 5 And everybody with a good family man of a boss or family woman of a boss is enjoying time with their loved ones, not at fucking work.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if your boss is such a fucking prick, we're in the middle of a pandemic and your fucking boss was like, hey, I'm going to make everyone come in on Friday after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 How about 2020 sucks so bad? Give the people one day off, you motherfucking piece of shit, boss.

Speaker 5 You know what sucks is that your boss is so incompetent that they need their employees to come in to save their ass and bail them out for not hitting their numbers in all of 2020.

Speaker 5 And they choose to make you do that on the Friday after Thanksgiving. Yes.
That's just disgraceful. Yes.

Speaker 4 You know what it is?

Speaker 5 It's un-American. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, hey, buddy, you. Yeah, yeah.
We're talking to you. We're literally talking to you.
You're the boss.

Speaker 5 Suck my dick.

Speaker 4 Go fuck yourself. All right.
Extra credit for any AWLs who send us a video of them actually playing it for their boss. Maybe their boss is also an AWL.
Yeah. So, yeah.
That would be great.

Speaker 4 That'd be funny.

Speaker 5 If you're an AWL, why aren't you giving your employees off?

Speaker 4 Yeah. But

Speaker 4 if you're an AWL who's just trying to, you know, maybe you're... Maybe you're one of the cool bosses.
Yeah, maybe you're a Rockefeller.

Speaker 4 You're just really trying to squeeze the last dollar out of the capitalism.

Speaker 4 Credit to you, dude. That's actually a good move.
And also

Speaker 5 sponsor part of my take.

Speaker 4 Yeah, on the low, good move.

Speaker 4 But also, let's

Speaker 4 listen to us motherfuckers.

Speaker 5 Now, all employees, turn your phones off real quick. Bosses only that are making your employees work.
Give us some money. Buy some merch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that actually was a

Speaker 4 boss move to make those idiots work.

Speaker 5 Big cat, you know what makes an awesome Christmas present? It's just buying a shitload part of my take merch and then giving those Christmas presents.

Speaker 4 Black Friday. Black Friday.
Yep. Also all of a cost to school.

Speaker 5 Way to be good at business.

Speaker 5 What's that thing the Pope does to like

Speaker 4 Instagram

Speaker 4 pictures of big asses?

Speaker 12 Threaten to excommunicate from the AWS.

Speaker 4 Perfect booties, heart. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Perfect booties.

Speaker 5 How about the NBA players meeting with the Pope? Yeah. And teaching him how to learn all the tricks and trades of

Speaker 5 ghost likes.

Speaker 4 You got to go to Zero Dark30.

Speaker 5 You got to have a Finstagram account. 23.
Sliding the DMs on that.

Speaker 4 All right, let's finish up. We got

Speaker 4 some guys on chicks.

Speaker 8 Hey, cat, comment, hunk, and William. I have been dating this guy for a couple months, and after a date, we were hooking up in his car.
Nice. I ended up blowing him, but didn't want to finish.

Speaker 8 I didn't want him to finish in my mouth. He said he was in pain because he almost came, but didn't, and I wanted no part of it.

Speaker 8 So we proceeded to self-complete in a grocery bag while I sat there silently. Is this normal?

Speaker 8 Are blue balls a thing?

Speaker 4 Just guy stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, jacking off into a piggly wiggly bag. Whomst Among Us has not had to do that.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 I'm not even driving either, just sitting there.

Speaker 5 I hope he was driving and

Speaker 5 was like jacking off into a Walmart bag.

Speaker 4 While driving. It's an oversized condom.

Speaker 5 If you don't do it, it falls off. So, yeah, you have to.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Would Big Cat fuck a turkey?

Speaker 5 Yes. That's a good question from not a chick.

Speaker 4 Billy, it is an animal. Yeah.
Billy, you probably would.

Speaker 4 No, I don't don't think so.

Speaker 5 I got a question. This is a deep dive inside PFT's Mysteries Brains.
Why don't we eat turkey eggs?

Speaker 4 Are there turkey eggs? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 They lay eggs, and they're bigger than normal eggs. It's the perfect size for like one breakfast would be one turkey egg.

Speaker 11 They taste a little gamey.

Speaker 4 So they taste like to let the meat talk. I know when you make a different meat when you made that up.

Speaker 11 They have a different consistency.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you made that up. Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 5 Good layers.

Speaker 5 What do you mean?

Speaker 11 They're not able to produce as much eggs.

Speaker 5 I still want to eat turkey eggs.

Speaker 4 Hey, thick daddy

Speaker 8 Hey, thick daddy cat, baby honk, Leroy's best friend, and Jake, long time listener, first time concerned for my boyfriend.

Speaker 8 He recently got a new robot vacuum and continues to make obscene gestures and remarks regarding her ability to clean.

Speaker 8 My first concern was when he named it Red Velvet, his obsession over his favorite stripper name, and continued to say, Oh, you're a dirty girl, aren't you?

Speaker 8 as it started to clean up our apartment for the first time.

Speaker 8 After a couple of days of it cleaning our place, he he started to take care of it and clean it every day because her suck holes are so small and cute when they'll get dogged with the smallest load.

Speaker 8 He continuously says, oh baby, you're so cute when you clean up that dust and you suck so well.

Speaker 8 After hearing Billy's talks about sub-adult hens and wanting to have sex with different animals, I've gained concern that my boyfriend is just as weird as him and wants to have robot sex with our vacuum.

Speaker 8 I keep a positive mind that he wouldn't want to have sex with a vacuum, but not once has he talked this dirty to me.

Speaker 8 I don't want to break up with him over this, but I do not know how to handle his attention about how weird, uncomfortable, and honestly a little jealous this makes me feel.

Speaker 5 It sounds like it looks a lot like a Legionnaire Stadium. In which case, I completely understand the fascination.

Speaker 4 Just let the guy do what he needs to do. What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 11 This guy's screwed because in 100 years, when robots become autonomous and start getting rights, then they're going to look back to that moment, and he's going to get...

Speaker 4 Fucked. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's true. That's what I always say.

Speaker 5 We should be super nice to every robot out there.

Speaker 4 They'll figure it out. Because remember they're watching.
Literally watching. They are recording out.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Shout out to the robots.

Speaker 4 By the way, I think that there's a conspiracy theory out there for us to not eat turkey eggs because I'm reading, I pulled up a website and it's like they have like seven reasons, which feels a little bit too much.

Speaker 4 They're laying it on thick here. Yeah, 16 to 17 pounds is a turkey egg.
That's a big fucking egg.

Speaker 4 So it's like too big.

Speaker 5 There's no chance.

Speaker 4 The shells are really, really hard.

Speaker 4 That's what it says. Average size of a turkey.
Oh, wait, no,

Speaker 4 that's a turf nest.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a full turkey.

Speaker 4 I was wrong on that.

Speaker 4 They only have 100 eggs a year, which is a third of how many chicken eggs. They also sit on their eggs a lot longer.
So, like, they don't.

Speaker 4 It's bred for chickens to just poop their eggs out and walk away. Yeah.
Turkeys will fucking be territorial about their eggs. Okay.
So sit on those motherfuckers.

Speaker 5 It sounds to me like the most dangerous game. Like, it probably tastes better because it's so hard to get them.

Speaker 4 Right. They're ready.

Speaker 4 And then,

Speaker 4 let's see.

Speaker 4 They are right about. He's right.
Billy's right about the consistency and the weirdness of it. It's a little different.
And then there's also feed concerns.

Speaker 4 So like what the turkey eats isn't cleared by the USDA.

Speaker 5 So you can eat the turkey itself, but not the egg.

Speaker 4 Like I said, this guy's laying on thick.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it sounds like this is was that written by

Speaker 4 a turkey. Oh, yes, by a big turkey.

Speaker 5 You know what it is? They use.

Speaker 4 Obama.

Speaker 11 No, they actually use so much to like fatten the turkeys up so they get big breasts and a lot more meat.

Speaker 11 Those sort of chemicals don't go through the cycle and then they end up in the egg and those chemicals aren't legal for us to eat.

Speaker 11 I actually was reading about this thing that they use to bulk up pigs because it might be a bodybuilding agent.

Speaker 12 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 11 And that's it's illegal in all the other countries except the United States.

Speaker 4 Also, meat, it's an economies thing where, so turkey eggs are bigger, so it takes up more space. Like the entire operation takes up more space.
They lay obviously less eggs over the year.

Speaker 4 And then meat from a ground turkey bird is much more valuable than an extra large fried egg.

Speaker 5 Right. So to me, it just sounds like a problem of nobody's figured out how to get the eggs and make money off of it.

Speaker 4 Well, because they don't lay enough. They maybe laid 300 a year, maybe, but they're like, hey, let's just keep making turkeys and killing those things.

Speaker 5 Now I really want to eat turkey eggs because of everything this website has told me. It sounds rare.
It sounds dangerous. It sounds like it's tough to get.

Speaker 5 It sounds like they've probably got more protein in them, Billy, because of the thickness of them, the gaminess. Ractopamine.
Ractopamine. Okay.

Speaker 4 Dangerous compound. Turkey eggs were on the omelets.

Speaker 4 Turkey egg omelets were on the menu of the famous Delmonico's restaurant in New York until the late 1800s.

Speaker 5 We should be eating turkey eggs. Wow.
But, Billy, you're right. Turkeys can't fuck because their breasts are too big.

Speaker 11 They have only artificial insemination? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 5 They're built differently. They're virgins.

Speaker 5 They're little nerd birds.

Speaker 4 Alright, what else we got?

Speaker 4 Sorry, I just went down a really deep. No, that's fascinating.
Turkey egg. Yeah, a turkey egg would cost like $2 or $3 a pop, which is obviously way too expensive for us.
Ostrich eggs. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Those actually bang.

Speaker 4 Cradberry eggs. Yeah.

Speaker 8 All right, last one. Sub Big Kitty Hank and Mr.
Under 35. My boyfriend moved in with me and my family last May.

Speaker 8 Our bedroom is right next to the laundry room, and every time my mom goes in there to do laundry, he wants to have sex.

Speaker 8 Is it a thing for guys to want to have sex, one, when it's easy to get caught, and two, when their girlfriend's mom is around?

Speaker 8 I feel like he gets off on my mom's presence, and that's low-key weird, if you ask me.

Speaker 5 I think he wants to fuck your mom.

Speaker 5 I think he wants to get caught. I know he wants to get caught.
I think he's been, yeah, he's been watching the front page of you, Jizz.

Speaker 4 He's been liking Ted Cruz's tweets too much.

Speaker 5 There's a whole generation of young males out there that I feel like are too much into the stepfather, stepdaughter,

Speaker 5 stepmother,

Speaker 5 that whole environment.

Speaker 4 Agreed, agreed, agreed. Big time agreed.

Speaker 4 All right, is that our show? That is our show.

Speaker 4 So we are going to be off on Friday. We are going to be back, as always, on Monday for

Speaker 4 Sunday, you know, for football week 12. And have everyone have a great Thanksgiving.
Anything else?

Speaker 4 Anything else? Oh, numbers.

Speaker 13 8, 69.

Speaker 13 18. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 8, 8, 8. To all of you guys.

Speaker 5 I don't think that's plugged in, big guys. 81.

Speaker 4 86.

Speaker 4 81.

Speaker 5 There we go.

Speaker 4 86.

Speaker 4 Oh boy. Oh boy.

Speaker 4 72. God damn it.

Speaker 4 This game sucks. We suck.

Speaker 5 Love you guys.

Speaker 13 First timer.

Speaker 11 Denmark was going to kill all their minks because it might make a coronavirus vaccine

Speaker 11 not work because minks can also catch coronavirus. And then the secretary of whatever thing, they fired him.

Speaker 11 He stepped down because he was accused of killing all the minks and it was a whole big thing.

Speaker 17 Anyway, if they did do that,

Speaker 4 Animal Facts or a dead market?

Speaker 5 You told me to research this last time.

Speaker 5 Can you still get a mink coat?

Speaker 11 Well, no, I was thinking if they did it, mink coats would be super cheap.

Speaker 4 Buy a ton of them

Speaker 11 and then keep them in a warehouse and then sell them.

Speaker 5 You just described a wonderful mafia stuff.

Speaker 4 Right. Then, dude, I should be in a mafia.

Speaker 4 Let's go to Puzzle.

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