Thanksgiving Special With Northwestern Coach Pat Fitzgerald And Mark Titus

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On today's part of my take, an extra long Thanksgiving Day special. If you have to work on Friday, we don't have a show coming on Friday.
We have Pat Fitzgerald, coach of the Northwestern Wildcats. We have our good, good friend, Mark Titus.
We talk college basketball, shoot the shit. Always great to have him on the show.
One of our favorite guests. Patient zero for coronavirus in the United States, though.
Patient zero. We addressed that.
He apologizes. Yep, he did everything.
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Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence And then I love to solve the work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun you Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by the Cash App Go download right now Use code BARSTOOL You get $10 for free $10 for the ASPCA Today is Wednesday, November 25th And you have made it to Turkey Day Week Break Congratulations Congratulations everyone You made it 2020 is. It's holiday season.
You can just forget about anything that you planned on doing in 2019. That's the greatest part about an office job is the weeks in between Thanksgiving and New Year's because you can just say, you know, it's that time of year.
No one's in the office. It's put on a sweater, eat a little too much, put on 10 pounds, get a little drunk all the time, watch college basketball all the time, bowl games.
I don't even know if there is a bowl season. It's the best.
This month, you can be socially a little buzzed pretty much at all times. Maybe there's an hour on Monday where you should probably try to sober up.
Yeah, just so you got the holiday spirit. Just full.
I'm just full. I start this week, from this week until January 1st, and really when I say January 1st, whenever the first Monday is, like January 7th this year, I just stay full the whole time.
Oh, it's eggnog season too. Just full.
I'm full. You know where it is? It's eggnog and seasonal food debate season.
Alright, so we got a big, big show for you. If you are listening and you have to work on Friday, we will tell you exactly when you can stop and save a little something for yourself Friday.
But we have Pat Fitzgerald from Northwestern. We have our good, good friend Mark Titus.
Awesome interview with him talking about college basketball. Before we do that, though, Monday Night Football, Tom Brady.
Now, we do this a lot with this show where we throw out half-baked ideas, half-baked theories, and we don't really believe them, but whatever. We just say them.
I'm starting to believe the theory that Tom Brady cannot play after 8 p.m. at night.
I really do think this is true. And as the game goes on, he gets worse.
That interception that he threw in the third quarter, was that the first one down the middle of the field? The one where – Yeah, one in the first half, I think. That's the one where Brian Greasy was like, and yeah, the issue on that was it looks like there was somebody that was standing by him, so his line of sight wasn't clean on it.
Yeah. But they were the exact same interception twice in the same game, and they looked like Jameis Winston interceptions.
This is also why Tom Brady, he obviously is obsessed with football, maniacally so, but man. The Bucs are still good.
They're going to go to the playoffs. They're going to be fine-ish.
I don't know if they'll get to the Super Bowl. It feels like they have a team full of names and not a football team.
You know what I mean? They have some great players, but as a cohesive football team, it just sometimes it's looked bad against really good opponents. They've got the Corvettes on the outside.
That's another thing that they kept saying was like they've got the athletes. I mean, there's no better trio of wide receivers in the NFL than Godwin, Mike Evans, and Antonio Brown.
It just doesn't exist. Right.
That's like a really good trio of guys. But there is a problem with Tom Brady, and you don't have to look very far.
Coach Arians was kind of treating him with kid gloves after the game. He was taking responsibility and saying that those picks weren't Tom Brady's fault.
And it's like, you want Bruce Arians to yell at you and call you a shithead. When he stops calling you a shithead, that's when it becomes an issue.
I don't understand, though, why they're right. Like, Bruce Arians is a good coach.
I'm not going to say great. He's a good coach.
I think the QB Whisperer thing is a little overrated. I think we've talked about it, but, like, it's a little bit easier to be a QB Whisperer when you have Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer.
Like go down the list, it's like Jameis Winston, Andrew Luck, high draft picks. When you get the number one guy, Kelly Holcomb, being like, oh, QB whisperer.
Yeah, he made Peyton Manning great. Okay, Peyton Manning was great.
He's had some stinkers in his time in Cleveland. He's had some bad guys.
But yeah, he's had some very, very good quarterbacks. So my point, though, is I don't understand why Tampa Bay isn't playing more to Tom Brady's strengths.
And when you say Tom Brady's strengths, he's the greatest of all time at being precise at like, oh, you want to you want to make us go 11 plays on the field. OK, we will fucking kill you by Tom Brady never missing a guy, always making the right throw, always making the right read instead of a it's Tom Brady.
He's got you know mike evans and antonio brown let's throw deep yeah what like that's never been his game so why are they doing that because that's what bruce does i don't know i don't think that's weird even when they were in arizona you remember the years when carson palmer would get hurt and they'd have to dip into like their third and fourth string quarterbacks and just like roll whoever out there i think it was like what was it uh drew Henson went out there and started a couple games for him. It was the Virginia Tech guy.
Shit. Oh, the tight end.
Shit. Logan Thomas.
Logan Thomas. There it is.
So, I mean, that's what Bruce Arians does. He doesn't really mold his playbook around whoever.
He's just like, this is a perfect playbook, and if you can't complete these passes, then fuck you. So, yes, I agree with you.
I think that they probably should alter their playbook a little bit. But also, I want to give credit to the Rams.
I want to give credit to Jerry Goff. Oh, yeah.
Dude, they're a good team. They basically said, like, we're going to take away – it's a good matchup for the Tampa Bay defense going up against the Rams' offense because the Rams can run the ball.
The Bucs can stop the run. I think they're, like, top five in.
And then Jerry Goff goes out there and just throws, what, 52 passes? It was awesome. Just lit them up.
The Rams had a great game plan, and yeah, that was a great game plan by the Rams, great game plan by Sean McVay. Go ahead, Hank.
Drew Stanton. Drew Stanton, yeah.
Remember he played against us in the kickball game? Yes, never forget. Took it way too seriously, Drew.
He had a cannon. You took that game way too seriously.
Where do we stand on the Rams uniforms from last night? The off-off-white, the parking lot snow-colored uniforms. Meh.
Not a fan. No, the Rams are a really good football team.
I've been talking about the Rams being a team that I put a future on them to to win the super bowl like three weeks ago i think they are a matchup problem for a lot of teams i am just like do you think hank do you think tom brady at some point because he's getting graded on the tom brady grade grade you know like people are saying well he's washed well he's still really good quarterback but you expect him to be the greatest of all He's not that anymore. Do you think there'll ever be a moment in the next year or two where he's like, maybe I should have just walked off after the Rams Super Bowl? Because he would have...
Walking off on a Super Bowl is an all-time move. And with six? Yeah, there's something that's in his DNA.
Yeah, probably not. You don't get to where you are if you're Tom Brady, if you have that attitude.
But that's true. Also, he can point at Peyton Manning and be like, Peyton Manning walked off with the Super Bowl.
I'm not Peyton Manning. I kept going back.
I kept trying. I kept going back.
Yeah. What about – I actually think the play of the game was the field goal at the very end of the first half when they got that long downfield completion.
I tweeted about this, but it's amazing because I hadn't really considered it that much earlier. But it's so impressive that they're able to get their entire offensive line to sprint like 35 yards down the field, get to the line of scrimmage, and then stand totally still.
If that were me, if I just run a 40-yard dash in football pads, my body's shaking. There's no way that I can – just the force of my breath is making me bob up and down.
And they get to the line. They hold in their puke for about three seconds, get set.
They're able to snap the ball and spike it and then get a field goal. That's like – to me, it's way more impressive, the act of being able to get those big dudes to be able to do that than it is the actual completion downfield.
I agree. I um so i the only other take i had coming from this game is i think this is i'm just saying this is going to be talked about in the media if the bucks struggle they're going to start saying that uh antonio brown what you get on the field isn't worth what you what you lose in the locker room because i know i don't fully believe that but i do think there's a point where you might have too many weapons i think you brought antonio brown in too early i think like you can't give him that much time if you're going to bring a time bomb into your locker room you bring it in as late as possible so it doesn't detonate in the middle of the season it yeah but yeah you're right like they do have to spread the ball around a lot because they have so many weapons but i I don't know.
I feel like if you have Tom Brady,

the whole aspect of why am I not getting as many catches gets a little bit

diminished because you kind of have to trust the guy that's won so much.

Right.

But, yeah, definitely if you don't feed Antonio Brown enough,

now he will be a problem.

But I feel like Godwin and Evans and Gronk,

those guys can manage if maybe their targets go down by like 10% or 20%.

I just want Scotty Miller to get back out there. Yeah, Scotty doesn't know.
Scotty doesn't know. But what about JPP making plays? And shout out to Steve Levy for not talking about JPP's disintegrated hand every time that he makes an interception.
You know he wants to very badly, and he's made a lot of them in like the last three weeks. When he tips a ball and he reaches up, and you can see it's with the bad hand, and he gets one of the good fingers on it.
If that were me, I would probably be fired. One of them good fingers.
You have to talk about the explosion at some point, right? The fireworks action? Yes, you do. That was a big miss.
How does he signal the start of the fourth quarter? His other hand. Or just the fist? That was Monday that was Monday Night Football.
I don't really know. Yeah, I feel like the Bucs are a good team, but they are – I mean, you lost twice to the Saints.
The Rams are the other team that you thought could match up well against them. You lost to them at home.
This will be a very interesting game on – we'll get to the Sunday slate after Titus and Fitzgerald, but against the Chiefs. Because, like, the Bucs are now in a spot where they can erase all the doubt by beating the Chiefs, or the doubt can really pile on by losing the Chiefs and going into the bye week and being like, what are they? And it's in the afternoon.
It's when Tom Brady is still lucid at 425. Still okay, as long as it doesn't go to overtime.
All right. Thanksgiving Day.
Football. I would like to propose that I think, I don't think they're allowing fans in Detroit, but I would love it if they would just put a couple fat guys dressed in pilgrim outfits that fall asleep in the third quarter just to make us feel like there's some normal stuff.
Yeah, I agree with that. We need a little bit of ambiance in this answer.
Just a couple fat guys just dressed ridiculously, kind of too many bud lights and they're just half dozing off as the Lions. I can't I feel like the Lions, I can't even get a read on them anymore.
Like if Kenny Galladay is playing, I think maybe they'll win and if he's not, they'll lose. I don't know.
I feel like this team's falling apart. I think they're going to lose no matter what.
What's up, Billy? Billy has to take. They haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row.
Okay. They haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row.
There is something nice, though, that's going to be, you know, you're going to be sitting in the kitchen probably helping make some of the appetizers, put together a cheese plate, pouring yourself a glass of white wine at 1030, 1130 in the morning. And then you watch, you turn on the TV, and the Lions the lions are losing by 17 points yeah before you have even sat down to eat i i like how that feels but it would be better if you had at least a couple of those fans in the stands i actually have a proposal for um for like bills nation and a lot of the teams that uh are looking like they might make the playoffs that haven't made the playoffs a while maybe even in danger of getting a home a home playoff game like in Buffalo.
Bills Mafia, we've talked about how they should let Bills Mafia in. Why don't they just – they should turn – it's no longer New Era Stadium.
Is it just Buffalo Bills Stadium? They should just turn that field into a bubble right now. Yeah.
And be like, we will admit 50,000 Bills fans into the stands as long as you promise not to leave between now and the first week of January. And just coexist here.
We'll have a hospital set up in one of the end zones where we can treat you if you do get coronavirus. But at the end of that month and a half long exposure, we know that everybody will be safe for the playoff game.
I think you get 50,000 people right now. You had this idea a while ago.
I thought it was just for the parking lot. Just for those mafias getting thrown through tables.
I thought you had the idea for, like, SEC. You just have the diehard fans all get together and bubble before the season starts.
Yeah, you could have, like, bubbles in different cities. I actually think it could work in Buffalo inside the physical stadium.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Make it happen, Buffalo. It would be great.
It would be great. I'll do it.
I'll do it with Bill's Mafia. I'll do it.
I'll go up there and I'll live inside the stadium if you make that happen. Yes, it has to happen.
What, Billy? Or incentivize. First people take the vaccine, you get to go to the Bills game as a test.
Oh, what about the Russian vaccine? They're making a cheaper vaccine. Yeah, they're making a cheaper vaccine.
Billy, you have to take that one. The only other thing I had with the Lions game is road favorites are 12-3 on Thanksgiving playing the Lions or Cowboys.
And the Texans are the favorite. But I don't know.
The NFL just feels like that league where the Texans won last week. They beat the Patriots.
Everyone's like, ooh, don't forget about the Sean Watson. And then you remember they kind of suck.
Also, J.J. Watt, hopefully he gets player of the game so we can get some awesome quotes from him.
Yeah, and also so he can be eating the turkey on the sidelines. Yes.
You know he really wants to do that. Bring back John Madden for this game.
Yeah. Can we please get John Madden to roll his turduck out there? Just have him call in.
Alright, how are you feeling about Washington football? Why is John Madden, like, hidden from the world? Because he's, like, 100 years old. He's so old, and he doesn't fly.
And he hasn't made any public appearance since the show has existed. I bet you John Madden doesn't have the internet.
How old? 84. He's actually on – I'm pretty sure he's on, like, an NFL, like, rules committee where they just call him up every now and then.
They're like, does this feel like football? He's like, no. And they're like, okay.
I swear. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure.
Dude, find it, Jake. I'm pretty sure he is.
He is, yeah. When they were like trying to redo pass interference.
Yeah, he's like, no, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, it doesn't make sense on TV.
He's like the final boss of rules. I think he should be the commissioner.
He should be the shadow commissioner right now. A football philosopher.
Yeah. He is.
But for the Washington football team on Thanksgiving? I have something good for you. Okay.
I have visualized this game. I have visualized all of America making fun of Andy Dalton in the fourth quarter on Twitter.
Okay. All right.
That's good enough for me. Doesn't it feel like that? That fits the Tony Romo mold.
Doesn't it feel like that? I keep going back to the RG3 game in Dallas back in 2012 where he threw for like 350 yards and four touchdowns. Just embarrassed the Cowboys, pulled their national television i am a little bit concerned about mike mccarthy who seems to have figured out the secret to coaching football in the nfl which is to smash the shit out of watermelons with a sledgehammer i don't know how it took him this long to to just wake up one day and be like oh i've got it i haven't brought the watermelons out yet that to me should be illegal that i lost my survivor league on the vikings that's knowledge that i should have had beforehand because you can't smash he knew that he had one watermelon to smash to get the most out of his team and he was like all right let's go it's such a bizarre time to pick this like why why are you doing that for the vikings game you should have done that four weeks ago that should have been the bin di nucci challenge i bet you they still made like stephen jones clean it up oh yeah he just had his handkerchief like it was clean that up um as of 2018 john madden announced that he is doing what every retiree dreams of removing every last obligation from his schedule god that's so awesome but he had a great cameo on little giants that's true that was like 40 years years ago.
Emmitt Smith. Yeah.
He was also made a video game.

He's actually the most successful video game programmer in world history.

Yeah, it's true.

Him and Mr. Nintendo.

He coded that himself, the first one.

I keep going back and forth because every time I get a little bit of confidence in my Washington football team,

that's when they break my heart.

I'm starting to get optimism.

I don't want to say it, but it feels like my heart's about to get broken again.

Andy Dalton getting made fun of.

Washington by seven.

Yeah, Andy Dalton getting made fun of.

All right, and then last Steelers.

What a story that would be.

Alex Smith winning a game on Thanksgiving in front of the world.

Andy Dalton's going to get made fun of on Thanksgiving Day.

I predict the winner of this game wins the NFC Beast.

He's still got the Giants, the goodish Giants.

They're going to beat the Bengals this week, so now they're going to be right there.

Not so sure.

Ryan Finley?

Not so fast, my friend.

Come on.

Come on.

The jerseys are sweet.

Ryan Finley, nice guy.

Really nice guy.

No.

Ravens, Steelers.

The Ravens got the cocoa. The Steelers don't.
The Steelers are going to kill him. We thought the Ravens had a chance, but now it's no.
On Monday, this was a back against the wall game. Just please don't cancel this game.
Stand up against the wall so we can shoot you. Please don't cancel this game.
I think it's going to be played because it's on. So none of these games are on the same network.
You got CBS, Fox, and NBC. So one of these networks is going to bitch and moan if a game gets canceled and moved around.
And that's really ultimately what Roger Goodell cares about is making sure that the networks are happy and all that stuff. All their partners are happy.
So I think they're going to end up playing the game. I don't know who the Ravens are going to have playing running back besides Gus.
Gus Buss. Maybe RG3.
Maybe run like a dual wildcat type situation at some point during this game. But with all the Coco drama, I don't know.
Justice Hill. There we go.
Justice Hill. That's right.
Mount Sinai. Justice Hill is kind of a name that you could do something just.
Just based on a name. That feels like a name that...
Oklahoma State. Fourth round pick.
He was a really good college running back. Yeah.
Justice Hill, baby. Justice Hill.
You were talking about the Steelers. I know we'll get into scenarios and tiebreakers a little later, but...
They can clinch. Playoff spot today.
The Steelers win. Vegas and Miami loss.
Let's go. I got the Steelers 55-1 to win the Super Bowl.
Need it. Bonus who's back of the week.
I forgot to mention this on Monday. The ESPN playoff machine is back.
I've spent conservatively 15 hours messing around with different playoff scenarios. Let me tell you.
It's ready to go. The football team is making the playoffs 15% of the time.
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My hot seat is the boys on the green couch to my right. That would be Billy and Jake Marsh.
Billy, a listener, sent us a video of Billy using the same fact twice. so he used the emu fact in the end of September 18th.
And then he used the same fact at the end of the show the other day. That's almost on us because that was only two months ago and we don't remember it.
I don't think it happened. That's, I mean, Billy, Billy is Billy plagiarizing his own facts is just, I should have seen it coming.
He's probably been doing it. He is Rick Riley.
Yeah, you've lived Rick Riley's entire career in the span of two years. Who's Rick Riley? I have no idea.
Very impressive. Also, Billy, somebody told me...
He's been on the show a few times, fellow Big J. Only once.
Someone was suggesting that you get some color coordination going on with your spreadsheet. Yeah.
Yeah. Wait, what happens? With the cells in the spreadsheet, I have a better idea for the spreadsheet.
You should throw it out. First of all, you should print it out.
You know what? I've heard so much about this goddamn spreadsheet. You should print it out.
Wait, whoa. I fought accounting Twitter all Sunday.
I ruined my NFL Sunday. No.
I was fighting accounting Twitter. I ruined it by coming up with a system that makes football not fun to watch.
You literally sat down and you said to – you're like, all right, who do you got in this game? You're like, well, I have the Patriots, and then the Texans took a lead, and you're like, well, now I need the Texans. It's not fun.
It's like a choose-your-own-adventure story. But your adventure changes every two seconds.
Exactly. No, it's not fun.
You had a miserable time watching it. No, I had a miserable time because all the accounting.
You can't wait for the boy without an attention span. All I'm saying is if you want to make people take your spreadsheet seriously, print it out.
It's Red Zone for bets. Hand it to us.
It just changes all the time. Hand it to us in a hard format and then put those plastic sheets with a plastic spine on it.
You remember those that make your paper look ten times better in college? It's such an easy... You You should do that with these sheets, too.
I'll laminate them. Yeah, with these sheets.
Just put the plastic sheets on either side with a plastic spine on the back, and then it feels like an official document. Then we'll take it seriously.
Okay. And then, Jake, so we have limited edition.
These are collector items. Cereal boxes.
Hell yeah. Pardon my flakes.
They're going gonna be on sale black friday yeah breakfast uh

if you're if you're watching right now you can see them but it's like they're you know they're

custom pft uh big cat myself are on the front and on the back there's a crossword puzzle oh

word search word search sorry not not crossword puzzle there's a word search with a bunch of

names that are uh relative to the show bubba's on there. Billy Football is on there.
Grit, AWL, Coach O. Just no mention of Jake.
Jake got frozen out. You guys didn't make these words, did you? We did not make those words.
No, we actually cleared them all. We were like, make sure Jake's not on there.
I thought I was part of the family. I'm sorry, Jake.
I'm provides a... I'm sorry.
You know what, though? There is a secret cake in that word search. Not really.
Yeah. No, cake is in the word search.
If you find the bonus cake, then that means you won. I'm okay right now.
It's disappointing. I got a really good idea.
That is fucked up, Jake. I'll have it fixed.
There's a jazz backwards. I got an idea.
Let's take three boxes and then cross out the FL on flakes and just put a J. Billy's just trying to get free cereal.
There'll be limited edition. And then whichever, whoever gets it.
Yeah. There's a cake on there.
That's what I'll say. But why is the word clutch? Why did that make the cut over me? That was someone who doesn't listen to the podcast like clutch.
That is just not a segment at all. No.
Larry Six is on there. Clutch.
Larry Six is on there. These guys like sports.
Clutch. Not me.
By the way, Larry Six, people have asked how he's doing. He's big.
He's the biggest fucking goldfish that I've ever seen in my life. He's so chonk.
He looks like he ate every other Larry. Maybe we'll have him pick some.
He got too big to pick games. Yeah, people are like, why is he doing picks?

He's bigger than the net.

And it's like, it's not like a little goldfish where it's like, oh, whatever.

It's like borderline feels like animal abuse when you trap him into the net.

Some things are bigger than sports.

One of those things is Larry.

Maybe we'll have Larry do playoffs.

Yeah, so we need an updated version of that box.

All right.

Probably not happening.

Definitely not happening.

You're on here in my heart. Thank you.
That's what means most. Yeah.
Hank, you're. Oh, wait.
No, that was both of them. Cool throws.
That was PFT. Thanks.
My hot seat is Ryan Russillo, recurring guest to the show. I was alerted to Ryan Russillo's podcast by a couple people.
I guess he does a show when he's not doing part of my take sometimes. Haven't had the opportunity to check it out, but someone sent me the relevant clip from the show, and he was saying things like there are some people out there in the media that don't actually know anything about football that keep saying that the Washington football team's pass defense is number one in the NFL and using that as an example as to why they're good.
And he yelled. He raised his voice at me and others in the media

saying that we don't watch the games

because it's teams that play us that are beating us

that stop throwing the ball in the second half,

which is why our football team is No. 1 in yards per game in passing.

Well, Ryan, you don't watch the game film, Ryan,

because we're also No. 5 in yards per attempt.

How's that for you?

That's a better stat.

No. 5, but it's No.
5 yards per attempt, because we're also No. 5 in yards per attempt.
How's that for you? Well, that's not No. 1 anymore.
No. 5, but also, well, it's No.
5 yards per attempt, meaning we're pretty good. Second of all, if you watch the games, you would know that we played a lot of teams that are in the game with us until the fourth quarter, into the fourth quarter, so they do still run the ball in the second half, Ryan.
We're beating the Cleveland Browns in the second half. We were close to winning against the Arizona football Cardinals in the second half, Ryan.

We played the Giants, who just stink at passing the ball,

so that's not really any indication of whether or not we were falling behind to them.

All I'm saying is we're No. 5 in yards per attempt.

I think he got you.

Not at all.

Not at all.

Look at the stats, Ryan.

I think he got you.

You're taking Ryan's side in this? Well, going from 1 to to five when you say we're number one hurts. Out of 32.
Yeah, I know, but that's not number one. Still pretty good.
It is good, but it's not number one. Still really good pass defense.
It's not number one. And then my other hot seat is everybody who's falling asleep at night because the office is getting taken off Netflix.
No. But this is like the 10th time that Netflix has just leaked a report saying that they're threatening to take The Office off.
Damn. They basically hold America hostage.
They're on the cock. They are on the cock now.
They're going to the cock. They pretty much, but this happens all the time.
They're like, if we don't get 50,000 new subscribers by the end of the week, we're taking The Office off. Also, quick Baby Braun of the Week alert.
Netflix, so Dave Chappelle chappelle i guess doesn't get royalties from chappelle's show netflix put chappelle's show on netflix and dave chappelle complained it was like this is kind of bullshit so netflix just helped them out and was like all right we'll take it down because we have a good relationship with you and so dave chappelle thanked them lebron james baby braun of the week is netflix he tweeted major shout-out and salute to Netflix for looking out and being loyal to my dear friend Dave Chappelle.

It means a lot.

Wow, Baby Brown.

So Netflix is Baby Brown of the Week.

My cool throne is cornucopias on scorebugs.

I love this week.

You get the leaves falling.

You get the cornucopia, a couple squashes, maybe one turkey on one of the sides.

This is the start of festive scorebug weather while you're watching football. I liked when Fox did the Christmas lights for the timeouts.
Yeah, that was really nice too. Embrace the bait.
What's your favorite updated score bug? Is it the Halloween one that has a pumpkin, the turkey cornucopia one, the Christmas lights, or the one that's just plain snow for New Year's? I like the Christmas lights. Something about them.
Christmas lights is nice. Yeah, I do like the cornucopia, though.
I love those. I love that as well.
And the leaves. I think Fox does the falling leaves.
Yeah, they do falling leaves. I like that.
That's my favorite. That's my favorite.
All right, my hot seat is, is this guy, who's Steve O'Rourke? Do you know who that is? Shut up, Steve. He was a guy from Jackass.
No. No.
I don't know if he's real or not, but... He's the manager of Pink Floyd.
What? Oh, no. That's a different Steve O'Rourke.
Yeah. No, he...
He's... Oh, he's a doctor.
Smart guy. He has a...
Hall of Fame journalist. Peyton Manning's on the hot seat for Steve O'Rourke because he just had an all-time take quake this afternoon.
and Peyton Manning will get into the Hall of Fame journalist. Peyton Manning's on the hot seat for Steve O'Rourke because he just had an all-time take quake this afternoon.
Peyton Manning will get into the Hall of Fame, but he's not a Hall of Fame quarterback. By my reckoning, you have to be indisputably the best player at your position for an extended period of time, and there was almost always someone better his entire career.
Speaker of truth. What is that? I'm trying to find this guy's take.
Where do you find this find this guy i don't know i got retweeted in my time shut up steve is his name so and then my cool throne is dan harron because bill james online who's got a very strange follow uh does random hall of fame polls and he put out roger cummins versus Dan Heron and Dan Heron won the poll.

Wow.

I might have retweeted it, but we do need Billy.

What? We need the PowerPoint for Dan Heron's Hall of Fame because he's actually up for the

Hall of Fame this year.

So present to them?

Yeah.

So throw out your stupid fucking betting spreadsheets that make no sense and make us

spreadsheets for Dan Heron.

Okay.

Dan Heron is a Hall of Fame pitcher.

Prove me wrong.

Okay.

Verbal meme.

Billy Football.

I'll ask Mike the Bike.

What?

Mike the Bike's from Dan Heron.

Yeah, I know, but you're definitely going to unload this on someone else.

No, I'm not going to get Mike the Bike.

We have numbers, guys, here now.

You have the ability.

I actually want a compelling argument.

Okay.

You're right.

Done.

Look at me.

I bet you he's got more National League wins than Roger Clemens does.

He's got the lowest ERA in the World Series of all time.

There you go.

I'm going you go. Boom.
That's one of them. Also, never use steroids.
Boom. Probably.
If he did, they were really bad steroids because he threw like 89 miles per hour. Yeah.
Terrible. All right.
Bill, you have a hot seat, Kildur? My hot seat? Normie. Uh-oh.
We don't. Yeah.

I don't talk about it.

He's kind of old news.

There's a new Norman.

Oh.

With a notable.

Bigger cock?

Yeah.

So Greg Norman's innocent dog photo has an X-rated twist.

What?

As a Norman, yeah.

Is this one of those?

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wasn't sure who Greg Norman was.

Turns out he's an old golfer. Oh, my God.
Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Great white cock. Yeah.
He's got a hammer. Normie's just canceled.
I still think Normie's not. Where's his hammer? I don't see it.
What? It's in his pants. The outline in his pants.
Oh, I was looking for a dog cock. Yeah, Normie's just.
I was looking for a dog cock. Yeah.
Anyway. Got it.
Dude, he's ripped. Normie's canceled.
Damn. Normie's not canceled.
I feel like everybody in Australia over the age of 60 still has abs. Tony Meatballs among 15 mobsters busting in Philadelphia.
I mean, if your name's Tony Meatballs, go to jail. Who cares? You already won life.
That press release was pretty funny. It was like, among others, Tony Meatballs and Joey Electric are going to prison.
Tony Meatballs. I mean, that's...
I mean, you're king of the block. It's incredible.
They're cosplayers at this point. Yes, Tony Meatballs.
I asked Jeff to do that on his Periscope. I was like, do you hear the news about Tony Meatballs? And he goes, we don't talk about that, but it's a tough morning.
It's a tough morning. He's a fan of the mafia.

Bleep out his name, Hank.

My cool throne is mashed potato gravy volcanoes.

Huh?

Mashed potato gravy volcanoes.

You're going to do that?

Yeah.

I love doing that.

That's a highlight of my Thanksgiving.

I knew my other cool throne.

I feel like the one food that always gets bashed on the Thanksgiving table is cranberry sauce. Yeah, I'm not a fan.
I like it. Yeah.
I'm going to say that it's fucking... I eat it once a year.
It's a nice little... You know what? It's a lubricant for all the food.
It also destroys urinary tract infections, which is nice. Right.
But I'd rather have a dirty dick than eat that shit. So you're going to do a mashed potato volcano? Yeah, it's the best way to have the gravy in one place, and you dip your turkey into it.
What? You guys don't do that? I'm with it. Are you guys kidding? Are you building it yourself? Yeah, you get your mashed potatoes.
So you're playing with your food. No, no, no.
It's actually saving the gravy. You make it into a bowl, mashed potato volcano.
It's like a lagoon of gravy. Then the gravy doesn't get wasted on the plate.
And then you can dip your turkey into it like a sauce. And then at the end, you mix it up with the mash.
Yeah. I've never done that.
And I'm going to do that. That is genius.
Dude. Billy, good job.
Mashed potato, gravy volcano. You said it so fast, I didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

I think that it's a pretty normal thing,

but I've never heard it called

mashed potato turkey volcano.

Billy, I'm in.

I'll send you a picture.

Thank you, Billy. I'm going to make a huge one.

That is actually a genius thing.

So you guys do cranberry or no?

No, it's for candy asses.

Guess what? You benched 285, dude. That was good, Billy.
That was a pretty good clap. Oh, breaking moves, breaking moves, breaking moves, breaking moves.
Uh-oh. What? No.
What? Mitch? No. Sure, I'll check.
Bears? Breaking Minnesota Badgers is a no-go. Fuck! Oh, they're disqualified.
Who, who, well, I mean, we were disqualified when we lost. Recurring guest Tom Fornelli retweeted it.
What, who, who was it? Was it, was it Minnesota or Wisconsin? Wisconsin football and basketball beat writer. No, but is it whose fault? Oh, I don't know.
Do I have to get, I'm basically asking, do I have to get in the front lines and be like, hey guys, don't COVID shame. It's a pandemic.
Or do I have to be like, Minnesota, you fucking scumbags. How could you do this? I don't know.
See how that works? That's just how my brain's working. It's Minnesota.
I think Minnesota's fully shut down. So scumbags.
I'm going scumbag route. Got it.
Done. While Big Cat looks that up, I have a bonus cool throne.
Fuck, man. I wanted to kick the shit out of Minnesota.
Recurring Blake of the Year, Blake Griffin, is on the cool throne because he just got a new teammate named Anthony Lamb out of the University of Vermont. So he's got the greatest teammate ever.
All right, so Pistons winning the championship this year? Yep. Okay, done.
Enjoy it. Yeah.
I really wanted to fucking... I wanted to skull fuck the Gophers.
They suck. They suck.
Damn it, man. Fuck coronavirus, man.
I just want to say that. Oh, also, yeah.
You know what? Quick, just quick side fire fest. Quick change died today.
Quick change. He died.
Oh, yeah. That was tough.
He died. He's dead because of coronavirus.
The quick change guy. Quick quick change guy the halftime it's like him would go out and they would panda those were like the two they would fucking he'd have the curtain and she'd be like in seven different dresses how the hell this happened quick change he was the unsung hero that because i think a lot of times the uh lady that's doing the changing his wife gets gets more of the credit for it but you could tell that he was he was the real like uh brains behind the operation i got a funny story i'll tell you guys off air about quick change one time he dropped it and she came out nude no no i can't say it but but r.i.p quick especially on the day he died i love quick change forever it's not about quick change the story i love quick change forever love quick change quick change fuck man it just sucks everything sucks.
All right's do pat fitzgerald coach pat fitzgerald and then we will get to our good friend mark titus talk college basketball and catch up with him about everything uh before we get to pat fitzgerald though all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with Reese's and Hershey's. Only one Reese's peanut butter lover's protein bar is made with Reese's peanut butter, and only one Hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with Hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and three grams of sugar.
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All all right we now welcome on very special guest friend of the program recurring guest it is coach pat fitzgerald off of a i don't know decent win program defining win wisconsin had three their top three receivers out announced right before the game uh the refs also were uh northwestern grads but a good win nonetheless no i'm serious uh it is pat fitzgerald great coach we want to coach on uh he was going to surprise me on sunday night and rub it in but i think you don't realize i actually had a spin zone that you are the most disrespected coach in america i don't know about that, man, but it's great to be on with you guys. Just trying to be a football guy.
That's all I'm trying to do. I love it.
All right, so here's my take. Here was my rant, and you can tell me, and you can't go against your own fans, but great game on Saturday.
Your defense was phenomenal. That was a full through and through Big Ten, nine punts in the third quarter terrible football to watch but i loved every second of it i your fan base afterwards and it's really more people in the media we're talking about how this was such a huge upset and this huge win and i have the take that pat fitzgerald is a great coach and has a very good program and and people should recognize that.
And it's not Northwestern from years and years and years ago.

They are a good program that is consistently good,

and you are a great coach, and people need to recognize that.

So when you win games like that, it's actually kind of to be expected.

You guys have been in the mix in the Big Ten West.

You won the Big Ten West two years ago. Start putting some respect on Pat Fitzgerald's name.
Well, I appreciate the rant and the support, but yeah, I mean, we've just got to keep getting better. I mean, you're right.
It wasn't a sexy game, but both teams have two ridiculous defenses, and I think they've played really well. And proud of this group.
I think they're very talented. I think this is maybe one of the more talented teams that I've had the privilege to coach top to bottom.
And, you know, it's starting to showcase it. We got to still get a lot better as we go here in the last three weeks, but it's, it's great to be where we're at.
And, you know, we've got miles to go though. Well, yeah, you have miles to go, but I mean, I think it, it's possible that you guys could win the Big Ten this year.
It's not out of the realm of imagination. Now, obviously, you're

taking it one game at a time, so you have Michigan State, then Minnesota, then Illinois.

If you have to break glass in case of emergency and bring in one alum to give the best pump-up

speech of all time before a game, I know sometimes you've had Mike Greenberg in the locker room. Are you going to go with Greeny, Revell, or Wilbon, or somebody else? Or Rachel Nichols? Or White Sox Dave? White Sox Dave would have some juice now.
I mean, you know, he would have some passion behind what he was saying. There'll be some deep thoughts with some of the other Northwestern media mob that are absolutely outstanding.
But I,

I think they've all had their turn. They've already been a part of that.
They've all done

a terrific job. And I know they start to kind of get a little crazy after we have some big wins.

And I hope to continue. They can be completely crazy.
And, you know, PFT, I heard you're,

you're big into trolls. I heard you like trolling people.
So I don't know who told you that.

Well, I think maybe if we could do something here with our great medill school of journalism maybe we could have a little offshoot and you'd become the dean of trolls what do you think about that yeah i i'm into that so i was thinking i don't know if you guys do this at medill i know they lost their accreditation so they probably do but do they offer like a correspondence course where i could take one class there and then become an alum a northwestern alumni and you bring me into the circle is that or i could start up the the troll school i have no problem doing that either yeah i think i would just skip and go right to becoming the dean of the troll school i think you have a special special expertise there that you'd be able to really teach the the future journalists of america i love it so um the game against wisconsin and more importantly the fight in Reese Davises, the comment that Joey Galloway made basically talking that, you know, Wisconsin isn't sexy. They don't have a lot of athleticism.
They have fight in Reese Davises as a football coach. When a member of the media says something like that, do your eyes light up? Like, did you bring that to your guys or do your guys hear that anyway because it was clear afterwards that you use that as a rallying cry and i actually think it was unfair that joey galloway did that to wisconsin and the game is under protest uh well i i don't think you're gonna get anything for the protest uh number one and i know joey and i know reese well they're both great guys i didn't hear it i didn't know it uh it.
Kyrick McGowan, our wide receiver, sent kind of a group text to our Unity Council and said, what's this all about, fighting Reese Davises? And so I think it kind of hit like wildfire into our locker room, and our guys had fun with it the next day of practice, and I actually kind of got coached up a little bit by the guys on what they had heard, and so we just ran with it. I don't think it was a rallying cry.
I think it was more to have some fun and, you know, just enjoy the heck out of it. And we had Reese come on and zoom bomb the squad on Monday when we went over our players of the game and our highlights for the game.
And, you know, I, you know, I think about zoom bombs. I think about coach Doug's coming on.
I don't think we've lost since Doug's gave us that motivational speech this summer. Oh, wow.
I did do that. You turned it around? You brought Northwestern back to eliminate you.
I did it to myself. That's tough.
I did it to myself. No, but I just always – those are – I love the human element of sports and seeing that, and it was very clear that the guys took that personally.
And I guess maybe that's where the disrespect of you as a coach comes in that you probably have to keep the element of like we are underdogs we're not ohio state we're not wisconsin we're not michigan we're not like these big time you know larger big 10 schools do you like if you guys keep going with success is there an element that you have to find a way to keep that edge of hey we're not a traditional powerhouse here yeah well I think you said it right earlier we've had really consistent success now especially over the last five years I think we're making progress to where we want to be in this league and and you know if you get to that point in this league then that happens naturally uh for the national audience and the way people feel there are quite a few people out there that still remember Northwestern, maybe when we had tough records. And last year, I think we took a step back from what people's opinions may be.
But you can't ride that roller coaster. I think our guys just had fun with it.
They enjoyed the heck out of, you know, something that was maybe a little bit humorous. You know, Joey making fun of Reese.
And then our guys grabbed it and ran with it. I love that aspect of it too.
And, you know, if anybody's going to, you know, give you a chance for some bulletin board, why not have some fun with it? Yeah, I love it. And I saw a clip of you on the sidelines.
I think it was at halftime when you were jogging into the locker room. I think that you're still the biggest dude on the Northwestern sidelines.
I think that you could kick all your team's ass. Like if they came at you one by one, I think you walk out of there the winner.
Is there anybody on the team you think could beat you up? No, I think I'd be VH1, man. I'd be a one-hit wonder.
I'd get one sucker punch in and I'd run like hell. There's no way I could do that.
But I had a lot of fun with my man Spanos. You guys like Spanos.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I like getting in the weight room and getting in there a little bit.
We talk some smack to each other.

But, no, man, my days of all that stuff are stuck in the 90s.

And we wore neck rolls back then.

So I'd need a lot of padding if I was going to touch any of our guys.

Yeah, it's about to be Spanos weather.

That's for sure.

Do you think that it is an unfair advantage that Northwestern is allowed to have fans at their games?

You guys had a packed house on Saturday. Is that – I Saturday.
The rest of the Big Ten is not allowing fans. Oh, you're beautiful.
Yeah, I mean it was great to have fans there. There's no question.
I didn't know that COVID was spreading in stadiums. I wasn't aware of that in the Big Ten country because I think it was only parents and family members of our staff.

Oh, I thought that was the regular crowd.

My bad.

Yeah, I knew you were going to go there, but that's okay.

You know, that's okay.

Everybody's got jokes.

Is it?

No, though, is it?

This is actually a real question.

I do that little joke and then a real question.

How hard is it to get your team kind of up in some of these games

where you're playing in front of no one and having that level of intensity that you, that you want to reach on game day. Yeah.
Blake Gallagher said it this summer, uh, our linebacker 51, who was a big 10 player of the week this week, he called a BYOJ bring your own juice, man. This is going to be a year that you got to bring your own juice.
You got to show up ready to go. And, uh, you know, our guy, the home games, I think the home team has a bigger advantage this year because you've only got 74 on the road, and most of those guys are probably in your rotation.
It looks like everybody at home has got, like we call it, the juice box. You've got a group of guys that are kind of bringing some juice and having some fun.
And I definitely think the home teams, at least in Big Ten country, you know, with the small crowds and or no crowds, there'll be no crowd. We were told no family, no friends at Michigan State.
Same thing at Minnesota next week. So that makes it challenging.
I know it's been a sellout at Camp Randall this year of nobody too, right? That's actually interesting. I didn't even think about that, that like the home when you have – how many guys can you have on the sideline? Like it's like 100? It just depends on what your roster cap is.
So you can have as many as you have in your roster. So that would help when you have how many guys can you have on the sideline like it's like a hundred just depends on what your roster cap is so you can have as many you have in your roster so that would help because you have a bunch of guys kind of hype men that are there yeah that the other side doesn't have and a loop will get just give some more walkouts yeah walk-ons just like bring as many people as possible into the tent so that you can have more people in the sense yes yes well big cat that could be another reason why we won last week yeah no listen you guys were the better team i'm a i'm a path and show guy i said it on sunday i think you're disrespected you're one of the best coaches out there uh you got your team playing great football i uh what do you think about all like when you look around college football it is interesting you see like mississippi state for example they dressed 49 guys going to georgia and they played really well so how like if when you have to deal with COVID or you maybe the other side has a couple guys out how do you deal with that like game planning and getting ready do you say oh they're missing these guys we can change it up or do you just keep it going and whoever's out there is out there well the way things are right now no one one's reporting in advance who's on their list of being out or in for the game.

So it's really in-game adjustments that you've got to look at

where things are at and matchups and things of that nature.

At this point, we haven't seen what we thought we were going to see on tape

and then something different on game day.

So, so far it's been that way.

You know, but you think about the NFL, they only dress, what,

46 guys for each game. So, I mean, it's – it's, it's, you, you've had a, we did a bunch of research on that, getting ready for the season about how many guys we needed.
Some leagues have a cap, like if you're down this amount of linemen, this amount of quarterbacks, they're not going to play the game. The big 10 chose not to do that, which I thought was a good move.
We want to try to play as many games as we can. And we're not limiting based on availability, but we have had some teams that unfortunately have had a cancel.
And listen, you know, if I don't say anything else, it's funny, but I will say something serious. You know, we're so thankful for our medical providers, you know, that have helped us all get through this.
And those that are on the front lines right now, helping them in this pandemic is real. It's not going away.
And those on the front lines, man, we lift you up. We think about you.
We pray for you, and we're very thankful for you. Yeah, well said.
And we're happy that Big Ten football is being played, and I can watch nine punts in the third quarter. I think that's pretty sexy, man.
No, it's hilarious. Listen, I make fun of it from a place of love.
When a game gets into a punt fest like that game did, you really are like all that can change this game is one penalty, one 15-yard penalty, one punt return for not even a punt return for a touchdown. I'm talking like a 15-yard punt return, and the game completely changes.
Yeah, no question. It was one of those old-school Big Ten games, you know, and we found a way to get it done.
But Wisconsin's an outstanding team. Don't do that.
Don't do that. They'll be back.
I don't need you to do that. Coach, it's been a while since we've done this segment, but I actually was in touch with a friend of mine who is a third grade teacher, Mrs.
Joyce. She teaches third grade right outside Austin, Texas, and her class actually had a couple questions for you.
So they're pretty simple. You can give them one word answers if you want.
This is from Flynn. Flynn wants to know, Coach Fitzgerald, what's your favorite color? Purple.
Purple. Do you like coaching offense or defense better? Special teams.
Oh, good answer. And then the last question from Flynn, would you coach the Bears? I'll coach the Cats.
I'm happy with the Cats, so thanks very much. Okay.
But Flynn also wants to know, once the season's over and you guys have won a national championship at Northwestern and the Chicago Bears offer you $10 million a year, are you going to accept that offer to coach the Chicago Bears? That's from Flynn. Well, my good friend Matt Nagy is the head football coach of the Bears, so I'm cheering for those guys big time here to get this thing going.
We can still make the playoffs. Yeah.
Yeah. We can still make the playoffs.
We got a shot. I saw it on the screen last night.
Yeah, in the hunt. In the hunt.
We're in the hunt. You're saying there's a chance.
We got a chance to make it. Okay, so last question for Mrs.
Flynn's – Mrs. Joyce's first grade class.
It was from Timmy. He said, how much is too much money that you would just not be able to turn it down? They're going to turn a season around, man.
Matt's going to win a Super Bowl up there. Yeah, okay.
Yep, yep. I like that.
I like that answer. All right.
Well, Coach, this has been awesome. We appreciate you as always.
Stop cheating with the grass. Tell Alex that we say hello.
Yes. That we actually have a project for him to maybe get back over 300 pounds on the bench press eventually.
Yep. Tell the guys of the team congrats from me.
That was a great win. I was very, very – I really do think you guys are a great team this year.
And you were saying before we even went on the Zoom that 8-0 is, like, already done and that you'll see Ohio State. That's what he said.
Before we started taping, he was like, all right, we got Minnesota. I saw the recording button go on when I came on, so I'd like you to be able to prove that if you don't mind.
That's smart. You don't want a Jeffrey Toobin situation.
Yeah, good luck. And great win.
And you guys are a really good football team. And people need to start respecting Pat Fitzgerald more as a great football coach um we're good man i'm more than thankful but appreciate you guys man happy thanksgiving don't eat too much turkey will you oh no that's that's not even issue yeah yeah yeah yeah all right good luck with well no you don't need luck michigan state minnesota illinois you already count those as wins so yeah good luck against ohio state you guys are the best okay All right, see you.
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We thought, hmm, college basketball starting a little later than usual this year starts today. We're taping this on Tuesday, starts today on Wednesday.
Who's one of our best friends in the whole world? Who knows basketball inside and out? It is Ryan Russillo. Welcome to the show, Ryan.
No, it's Mark Titus, one of our best friends. You can find him on Titus and Tate podcast.
You can find him on Fox Sports. He was on my TV the other day.
He's everywhere. Titus, great to see you.
Big Cat, it's been a long road to get back to relevancy, as you you've pointed out to me many times over uh you i i i i want to not make this contentious because i i have a feeling the direction we're going to take this but uh it's hard not to look back on these last eight months and think about you taunting the coronavirus gods yeah i will inject myself if if the ncaa tournament gets canceled yeah and i just felt like it was too much. And honestly, like, I'm a little bitter about it because when we look back on the road that we just traveled, college basketball is really the only sport that sacrificed anything.
And we're the only sport that had the tournament canceled. No one else did.
The NBA pretended they sacrificed, but then they spent so much time patting themselves on the back for coming up in the bubble that it really wasn't a sacrifice in the end so um but whatever it's a good point yeah it's a good point we're here uh yeah that was a regretful comment we were we were just laughing beforehand uh pft would say that he didn't respect coronavirus i said it was overrated and a fraud and it couldn't win on the road yeah we called you a pussy for not flying out to the Big East championship. And then we find out it's actually a big deal, and you guys just shrug your shoulders and go, huh, I guess we were wrong.
Meanwhile, me and Rothstein are crying in the corner. Is our livelihood over now? Yeah, it was a little dicey for all.
But I guess if you look back on it, there's a silver lining. It looks like you really decked out your home office there.
How long did that take you to hang up all those pictures in perfect level? Did you have to go through it with a tape measure? Shout out to Mrs. Poisel, my eighth grade geometry teacher.
There we go. Shout out.
Taught me all the angles and everything like that. And listen, we're not going to get contentious, so this is the last I'll say.
But what you just said is true. 250,000 Americans dead but the real loser here is Mark Titus

because the tournament got canceled coach k also and coach coach k yeah that's what you're saying just to sum up your point right yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's exactly what i'm saying got it i i just i i see the future and in the future i've said this to you both already uh we fast forward to february all the all you football people spend all winter coughing on each other and making this all worse and then everyone takes stock of of the pandemic after the super bowl is played after national champion is crowned in football and then we're like hey we should probably take this seriously we should cancel sports right sports aren't that important and then we go through it again and college basketball is again the only sport that's my fear i i take offense to that i truly love college basketball it is my favorite sport to gamble on i would this feast week doesn't feel like feast week because i'm not watching you know uh chaminade play kansas at noon in hawaii right now so it's my favorite week i'm excited that we'll at least get back. Kansas, you know what? Let's start there.

Kansas-Gonzaga on Thanksgiving Day.

Will this be the year that Gonzaga finally gets to a final four?

I think it might be.

Gonzaga's going to be really good.

I really do.

I didn't love Gonzaga last year.

They had a decent team.

But I really do like Gonzaga's team.

They got a classic situation that I love in college basketball, which is trying to figure out who the best player on the team is. And this can only happen in college sports.
Like in the NBA, it's pretty obvious. You know, like the guys, I guess like the era of super teams, they argue over like is LeBron or AD better.
But for the most part, like you kind of know. AD.
But in college, they make arguments about like, that guy's not the most talented, but he is the heart and soul. Therefore, he's the best.
And then it's like, well, that guy's going to be the best draft pick. So he's the best.
And then it's like, well, this guy, you know, the whole offense runs through him. So he's the best.
That's Gonzaga this year. They have like four guys who are the best player.
And I love that because yeah, you, you, you get these situations that you only get with college sports where you pretend like the guy who's like not that talented is actually the best player just because he dies on the floor. In the case of Florida State last year, actually their sixth best player ended up being the best player overall.
But Mark Few is a great coach, and what you just described, I think it is interesting when it happens in college basketball. I would assume they'll still be okay because unlike when Duke has this problem and Coach K just says, okay, everyone just take turns playing one-on-one basketball and we'll hope it works, this will actually still work for Gonzaga, correct? This is like a good problem.
Yeah, Duke is we're too good and Coach K loses and the press conference is – and Kentucky does this too. Cal is actually, Cal does this more than K does, but you almost complain about how you're too good.
You have too much talent. You have too much.
It's like these kids, it's hard to get through to them. They're so talented.
I just don't know. There's only one ball.
I can't really figure it out. That's not really Gonzaga's problem.
Gonzaga, Gonzaga is a good, Gonzaga is more like the Villanova teams that won that yes in that regard where it's like yeah like is jalen brunson or mikhail bridge is the best player on the team and then we are mario spelman yeah mario spell yeah it was dante di vincenzo off the bench that's like gonzaga field this year what was the team the the duke team with uh luke canard when they that was literally they had four guys who all went and they all it was the worst basketball ever to watch play that was Brandon Ingram that was uh Grayson Allen Luke Kennard I forget who the big guy was that year and they just it might have been Wendell Carter it might have been yeah it might have been and they just were like yeah we're all going to take turns and drive to the hoop yeah the Zion team did that a little bit too with Barrett and Cam Reddish was the number three recruit in the country, and he goes anywhere else other than Duke, and he's averaging 20 a game. And he goes to Duke, and he's like, am I allowed to shoot? I should shoot now.
All right. Are we overdue on a Gonzaga cheating scandal? I feel like they've really skated on their radar.
As the program has become, you know, they haven't been really the plucky underdog for the last 10 years. Something fishy is going on.
What if it was John Stock be stockton who knows i mean it could be like i don't know there's some person in uh what's his name's underground apocalypse bunker adam morrison i don't know what's going on but like they're so far away from the east coast media elites the real journalists that i feel like it's easier to get away with cheating on the west coast here's what it is pft and I like where your head's at. Gonzaga recruits all the international guys, and I think what they're doing is they are doing a money conversion, and then they pay them in loonies or whatever it is, the Canadians.
Are they actually loading up on a lot of Canadian talent? And I think when you do the conversions, it gets lost. Like the FBI can't track that.
They clear the trail. You know, like, every other school is paying in dollar bills and cash.
And you see the cash. You see the ATM transactions.
You're like, that's illegal. I feel like Gonzaga is getting these international guys.
And it's just getting – they're muddy in the water. It's better now.
I'm on it. I'm on it.
I famously, two, three years ago, I got way too high one night and thought I uncovered a point-shaving scheme with St. Mary's because they had a bunch of Australian guys.
Yeah, the Aussies. I was going back in time looking at all their box scores because there was a weird situation where they fouled up seven like five different times to get the over, and I was like, these guys are cheating.
We watched the replay of that, and and we were pausing it and be like i think the coach is looking at the scoreboard right there isn't he but yeah it's it's interesting mark because i think that it's not against the law to just like go to a different country and be like hey i want to buy like five hundred thousand dollars worth of your money but i think it's worth more so i'll give you 1.5 million American dollars for that because I value it more. Although I don't know why you do it with the players that St.
Mary's gets. They're basically just like future punters for Bill Belichick at the draft.
The real Galaxy Brain move is Bitcoin, and I don't understand why college basketball programs haven't tapped into this. I just feel like when we have a resurgence in Ivy League basketball, Ivy League is taking the year off, uh that scares me because i think they're going to spend the year scheming they're going to come up with something they're going to come back in a big way and i'm worried it's going to be bitcoin they're going to find a way to pay players using bitcoin it's untraceable what about that's all that's all i really know about i like you got us started about cash app the official app of recruiting violations yeah can we say that that be cool.
They're a great sponsor. Yes.
That would be very cool. All right.
So, yeah, Gonzaga, Kansas on Thursday is going to be awesome. You want to do Big Ten? You want to talk a little Big Ten? Let's do Big Ten.
Because the Big Ten is loaded. It is truly loaded.
Absolutely. All five starters returning for Iowa.
We're going to talk about the Big Ten, but just tell me, my plan for early season betting college basketball is just bet on the teams that have all their guys coming back, assuming there hasn't been a lot of practices and everything, right? Yeah, yeah, that seems to make a lot of sense. I would agree with that, yeah.
It's going to be – it's an absolute shit show, the practicing. And the teams that have delays have to go on hold for 14 days or whatever.
So who knows? There's some schools that can't even – I think it was Georgia Tech said – I don't know if they're still doing this. It's hard to keep up with everything.
Georgia Tech said they were trying to practice with no contact. And this was Josh Pastner's big idea.
It was like, we're going to practice bad. So I don't know.
They're just playing horse. Hoosiers.
I don't really understand. Yeah, Hoosiers practices out a ball.
Yeah, they should move the three-point line in for this year only. That would be sick.
Back in the day, you could find old footage. I think it was the ACC did an experimental three-point line, and the three-point line cuts through.
It's barely above the free throw line. Yeah, no.
It was super cool. You could see this old footage of back in the 80s, the guys taking 16-footers.

Dude, even in the 90s, Kalito Amin and those UConn teams,

they would hit threes, and it would basically be an extended free throw.

Yeah.

It was awesome.

All right, so Big Ten.

So who are those teams?

Obviously, Wisconsin.

They're bringing back everybody.

Wisconsin brings back everybody.

Baylor, I think, is a team, if you're talking nationally,

not in the Big Ten. Baylor brings back a ton of guys Quincy Aces coming back yeah yeah Baylor all right so tell me this Baylor because I basically early college basketball before I have a feel for all the teams yeah I just go on like what I assume every program is and Baylor is a bunch of guys who are like 6'8",

who don't play basketball well but can just block every shot

and are more talented athletically than every other team.

They are now – I see where you're going with that.

They are now like a three-guard.

They are kind of a diet version of the Illinois, the 05 Illinois team.

Oh, I love the three guards.

Yeah, like they have like three really good guards. They guard well.
There's one guy who's like the designated scorer one guy's the designated assist man one guy's a designated lockdown d guy um that's just how they they they operate they play great defense uh Baylor's gonna be pretty good I I I like that but we want to talk about the big tens yeah yeah all right um Iowa can't play defense but everyone's excited about Iowaowa because luka garza is very good he's good yeah iowa is i was going to be the most fun team in the big 10 so everyone listening that doesn't care and just wants to watch like good college basketball game or just sort of be entertained iowa is going to try to score 100 points every single time they get on the floor they're going to give up 93 probably every single they're gonna they're gonna score 100 luka guards is awesome uh we's camp is awesome uh a lot is being made about bohannon their point guard who was a senior last year but was hurt again and then got to come back he's like a seventh year senior at this point um he's had like two hip surgery iowa fans are really excited that he's coming back. I'm not really sure how effective he's going to be.

But, yeah, that's the MO on Iowa.

It's like they might have the best offense in the country,

but of all the good teams, they might have the worst defense as well.

Do eligibility rules apply?

Does this year not count like it's in football?

No, I think you're right.

Yeah, I think like my understanding is like guys can basically come back next year.

So Brad Davidson's going to play 10 years. Brad Davidson gets another year.
People are going to be so mad at him next year. I fucking love it.
What about Michigan? What about Juwan Howard? I want to get excited about Michigan. No, no.
All right, that was our Michigan. Wait, no.
What's going to be more disappointing? Michigan's football season or Michigan's basketball season? Michigan's football season. Michigan football sucking powers the basketball program.
I really think there's something to that. The worse the football program does, the more people shit on Harbaugh by saying Michigan is a basketball school now, which is good because you're saying that to shit on Harbaugh.
But what's happening is a real-life narrative is building that Michigan really is a really good basketball school. So now Jawan Howard, he has the number one recruiting class next year that Michigan is a year away.
We'll put it that way. They have the number one recruiting class next year.
But I really do think like the worst, the football program does like the donors probably like are writing checks and they're like, do not give this to Harvard. Like in the memo, it's like, do not pay Harbaugh with this.
Please funnel this to the basketball program. It's like they get better the worse the football team gets.

Wait, is it Imani Bates, is he going to Michigan State next year?

He's like three years away.

See, he's one of those guys.

So every now and then you get a guy.

So Tony Scheffler, our friend, he coaches our high school basketball in Michigan.

So he put me on to Imani Bates like four years ago when he was like in seventh grade.

So I feel like a hipster being like, here he comes like I I've been hearing about this guy he's a he's a junior I think in high school that's crazy like two years away by the time he comes out he'll probably go to the G League anyway yeah I've been I feel like I've been watching highlights of him for a decade so Mark as an expert how have you been getting ready for the season do you get like your hands on practice film have you been watching like rainy stuff taken from the third deck? Well, PFT, this is a good – the one silver lining about not having a tournament is we can just speculate as to what would have happened. And so speculation is just running wild heading into this season where you can pretend like – you know how many teams I've said won the national title last year? UCLA.
I've given it to – yeah, we'll give it to UCLA. I've given it to Kansas.
So going into this season, you, you can kind of, it's kind of a choose your own adventure. It's like Kansas is looking to build on the momentum of winning last year's national title and they're going to be good this year.
Baylor of course was the best team in the country. Everybody knows that they were the best last year.
So, so you just kind of like grab onto things like that and run with it. usually like iowa is a great example maybe iowa gets upset in the second round last year and then we're coming into this season and nobody's high on iowa yeah these guys are frauds they're bums we saw we saw what happened in the second round when they were upset uh but we didn't get a tournament so now we're like yeah iowa could be pretty good i don't know and that's just kind of it yeah you shrug your shoulders and wisconsin was Wisconsin was playing their best basketball.
That was actually probably the last sporting event I watched was Wisconsin winning the Big Ten title at Indiana. When was the first Wisconsin game you watched? Was it before or after February 1st? Shut up.
I watched too much college basketball. It does nothing for my job.
I know you watched college. You were out on.
What? Dan, you came on our show and you said fire Greg Gard. Oh, yeah.
No, there was. Well, because we lost to like.
Fuck. Who did we lose to? We lost to like New Mexico in that tournament in Brooklyn.
Yeah. I'm a reactionary fan.
Well, the last thing I remember was UNC didn't not make the NCAA tournament last year. So they could still win it this year.
Yeah. True.
They're blue blood. They could be back.
True. UNC, Duke, people forget.
Duke was the very first team to say, we are out of the tournament. Yeah.
We are withdrawing from the NCAA tournament, and Kansas followed right after, so there is that. When it comes to UNC, though, obviously they can't be as bad as they were last year, right? That's just an aberration.
They're going to be they're gonna be a top 20 team yeah they'll they'll be they'll be pretty good yeah they're gonna be they're gonna be they're not gonna be like as good as carolina wants to be but they're definitely gonna be much much better than they were last year for sure yeah they got it they got a lot of good recruits and um yeah they they were it was a mess last year and and uh uh cole anthony took a lot of the heat for that because he was like he became like the face of carolina but they they really weren't good they just weren't it did yeah i i wish that with everything that's going on how weird this year is that we could just slip in like luke may should try to play again for carolina this year like no one would flinch everyone's like oh yeah he's there yeah he might yeah you're absolutely luke may is the type of dude that is probably still around chapel Hill like practicing with the team anyway right right and it's like oh okay then Luke May all right well like yeah we'll allow it um we have to talk I know that uh a lot of my followers and people who listen to the show are very very excited about Illinois they are going to be very good they are very good they were very good last year they have enough, though? Because we know the Big Ten hasn't won a title in fucking forever. Do they have enough to maybe go all the way? I think Illinois is best suited for – okay, I'm going to do a thing where I cast a wide net so I can't be wrong.
Love it. Wisconsin is best suited for the NCAA tournament in the sense that – I see Wisconsin going to an Elite Eight.
That makes a lot of sense to me. Let's go.
Wisconsin is not going to get over the hump. Wisconsin could be very good.
Wisconsin could go undefeated this year and be a one seed and be in the Final Four, and I am betting the house that they are not winning the national title. They just don't have the final push illinois is the team that is the most likely to win a national title i think that now having said that they could flame out but like the the ceiling if we're talking like ceilings and floors illinois has the highest ceiling to me uh they they they have the most athleticism i think of all the good teams in the big 10 i don't think that's debatable when you look at like iowa and w Wisconsin.
Those are the two teams you're up against. It's not that hard.
They play defense. They got Desumu, who's going to – I think he's the best two-way player in the country.
He's going to be awesome. Coburn's, like, baby Shaq down on the low block.
Yeah, they have a really, really good team. If you're in – this is definitely the best Illinois team since 2005.
Wow. Okay.
I think Illinois is the team I'm the highest on in the Big Ten going into the season. Anytime you can drop a baby Shaq in there, I'm all on board.
And everyone will see his name who doesn't watch college basketball and be like, this guy's name's Cockburn. Yeah, that is always a fun thing.
Now, one last Big Ten question from a he's going to block us and never speak to us again or he already expects it and we're it's gonna be fine when we shit on him how bad is Maryland gonna be for Scott Van Pelt oh oh yeah because he takes it very very very seriously he takes it a little like Van Pelt is he takes it too seriously in the sense of like if I'm Van Pelt so if if i'm in his shoes and i'm coming into this season we just won the big 10 last year like maryland has has been the stepchild of the big 10 right like it's it's the big we don't want them in the big 10 no we never it's never felt right them and ruckers get them out of here but they finally win uh mark turgeon was like a wrestling heel down the stretch he's talking shit to all the other big 10 coaches and press conferences and i remember they won at minnesota and it was like a it was a big win it kind of like secured the big 10 title for them and the very first question he was like coach great win how how do you know how do you feel right now and he basically used this the very first question he used his time to basically just bitch about how he has to play he had to travel from maryland to minnesota on a weeknight to play a 9 p.m tip game he's like fuck the big 10 office for doing this to us fuck all of you like that was their attitude so what i'm saying is if i'm svp i i just appreciate last year i'm going into this year and i'm like i don't care we did it we pissed off the entire conference we won a title we can share but i don't feel like he's going to do that i feel like he's going to like the moment they start losing and you and I start joking about it. He's going to get, he's going to be very upset.
I think always, always. I don't know.
I, I, yeah, I actually appreciate it with him because he's, he, he just admits it like this is my thing. Like Maryland hoops is the thing I care about more than anything.
I actually think that's a healthy thing to pick one sport one one team and be like here's all of my emotional energy and then not spread it out over multiple sports and he's like this is it if you make fun of maryland hoops i will be mad even if i smile on your face i'll put you on a list and i will hate you forever that's true that's true we traded – Scott Van Pelt and I have traded just sending each other back pictures of, like, Wisconsin's Big Ten ring and Maryland's Big Ten ring because it was a share, and, like, you can just argue about it forever. I love the – yeah, the two of you.
Like, Wisconsin won the Big Ten because they had an easy schedule down the stretch. They were absolutely dog shit for most of the year.
Guys like you were saying fire the coach. And then they went eight in a row.
And like now Wisconsin fans are like, we did it. We're awesome.
We bring everyone back. Let's forget that.
Like I hated this team for three fourths of the season. What about Maryland? Maryland like limps down the stretch.
They, they should have won the big 10 by like three games and they almost choked the whole thing away, but they want it. And it's, it was, it's a very weird situation where the two of you are like celebrating, but you know, in the your minds no that was not a convincing no it was a share it was a share of a title michigan state maryland in wisconsin yeah what about uh the best player to come out of the state of wisconsin possibly ever uh jalen johnson right but would you say the best wisconsinite of all time no what about uh the west virginia uh pitts novel no jordan mccabe right? What about Tyler Heroes from Wisconsin? Yes, he is.
He's a bucket. Isn't Jordan? Is it Jordan McCabe? Am I saying that? Is that who it is? West Virginia? Is he from Wisconsin? He is.
Because I remember when we went to see Huggy, they're like, we just got your boy, and they showed me, and he had like an and one mix. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, he was just palming the ball. I was like, yeah, I didn't know i even had a boy but there we go yeah uh west virginia is gonna be good west for you know yeah i know you guys love huggins as much as i do they're gonna be awesome they're not gonna they're not doing the press virginia thing though this year so uh be prepared for that but why not they're they're because they don't have javon carter to piss everybody off he's another guy who should come back yeah have you been have you been a West Virginian seen Huggy Bear's setup that he has at practice with the treadmills right next to the court I think I've just seen you guys talk about it I think when you guys were there that was the only time yeah I've never been to a practice there I've been to the arena on game day yeah the game there but yeah if you if you have a minor fuck up in practice he's like the Joe Judge of college basketball he'll put you immediately on the treadmill and just stand next to you and watch you run.
It's going like 12 miles an hour. And I've never been intimidated having somebody else watch me run before like I was when Huggins was watching us do wind sprints just with his arms folded.
Like I wanted to puke my guts up for the guy. We did a preseason show for FS1 where we got to interview Huggins, and I've never been so nervous in my life talking to anybody.

Because the whole time,

like all you're trying to do,

you're not even trying to interview him.

You guys know this.

You've talked to him.

You guys, you know him well.

I was just trying to like,

I just want him to,

my goal was that he gets done with the interview

and then he turns to his assistant.

He's like, I like that guy.

How do I become best friends with him?

I want to be best friends with him.

Like, that's what I want.

But you know, you're never going to do that.

And you also know that like the one thing,

Bob Huggins,

if you really love Bob Huggins,

Thank you. assistant is like i like that guy how do i become best friends with him i want to be best friends with him like that's what i want but you know you're never going to do that and you also know that like the one thing bob huggins if you really love bob huggins you know this about bob huggins is that the last thing that bob huggins wants to do is be interviewed by a dipshit like me yes so it's like weird it's a it's a weird thing where it's like if i really cared about him i would just not interview him at all be like thanks coach but i'm gonna give you your free time that would be the move yeah that's the move and then he's like i like that guy yeah punked on the interview just for the satisfaction um so can you can you break hank's heart real quick and tell him why duke is gonna stink duke uh because i mean their best player they're bringing back are two white dudes basically i mean i guess window more accounts but like it's counts, but it's Joey Baker, Matthew Hurt.
Duke does not have a great recruited class. I feel like – I'll say this.
Coach K was leading the charge to have every team make the NCAA tournament this year. I don't know if you guys saw that.
That was like a proposal put out by the ACC coaches, and Coach K threw his weight behind it. Yeah.
And I don't think that was a coincidence. I think there was something to that.
I think was like yeah these are weird times we should have everyone make the tournament and uh that's i just found i found the timing that interesting yeah at a win every game canceled should just be a win on the coach's record yeah yeah yes it has nothing to do with the fact that i'm trying to run up the score here and and every game i lose during a covet season should go to my assistant coach yeah absolutely yeah called the bad back season we're going to get back to titus in a second before we do hey what's going on there pal we saw you at the hockey game on do i know you guys i'm ryan whitney i got a drink named after me not a big deal pink whitney that's what i thought see you fellas i invented the thing you pigeon pink whitney for legendary moments and now more mark titus what about rick patino you mentioned this on John Rothstein's show, but I think that there's some truth to it. Rick Pitino wants to delay the start of the season until basically after the start of the NBA playoffs is the ideal point to start the season for old Rick.
Do you think that he actually has a reason for asking for that, or is he just doing it to get his name in the papers yeah that's a great question i i think the i i i actually support his idea if we would have come up with this idea a few months ago um because again i see the future the future is we we all look up after the super bowl and say wow this is getting this this pandemic is out of control again let's cancel everything and wait for the the vaccine's just around the corner are we sure we should be playing sports right now? Let's cancel everything.

And then the vaccine comes out like April 1st, right after the tournament would have been played.

Don't do that.

And then,

and then every other sports back.

And then like,

I think that's where Patino's headset is like,

wait for the vaccine.

But I liked the idea in theory.

I know you're a fan of my proposal,

PFT,

which is wait to the end.

The,

the final four is going to be an Indy this year.

Not even just because they announced they're, they're playing the whole tournament one location but it was scheduled to be in indianapolis this year anyway uh so have the final four during memorial day weekend double it up with the indy 500 and create the greatest i mean what what better way would there be to celebrate a vaccine and we can all get together again yeah there is indeed a vaccine say in like apr in April or March or whatever it is.

And then come May, Memorial Day weekend in Indianapolis,

everyone descends and we set that city on fire with the Final Four and Indy Five.

That's our grit week right there.

I hope it happens and we can give all the credit to Dan Dockage for doing that.

And Rick Pitino, the moral heartbeat of America.

So we only say nice things about Rick Pitino now,

or I personally only say nice things. I don't even know if i've told you but i do have a stalker uh yeah you told me you told me he popped back up yeah you guys went to the press conference then you you had like a dicey situation where you're like i kind of have to look over my shoulder because of yeah he popped back up some guy just randomly texted me and was like hey i'm what did he even say he said he made up a name it was like i'm rick patino's pa he's like i can i can make your life a very sticky situation yeah watch yourself yeah he's like he's like we could do it the easy way like we want to bury the axe something like that i was like that's not the easy way or the hard way yeah that's you're going to become very easy after 15 seconds don't i did not laugh at that joke and credit to the iona staff because i reached out to them and i was like hey does this guy exist and they're like nope so rick patino probably has no idea it's not his fault there's just some crazy rick patino fan who every time i say anything about him text me and he's like you're gonna die uh but is rick patino so how's iona gonna be and do you think like what's the timeline for rick patino to be back in major college basketball maybe st john's i don't know but where how long will it take because we need him back in our lives yeah he's gonna be back by the way because like he's talking about this is his last stop and and he's excited to retire at Iona and all that kind of stuff.

But you guys remember, you were there at his press conferences.

How many times did he retire that summer?

How many interviews did he say where this is my last interview,

I'm doing this just for closure?

And then two days later, he's on Dan Patrick's show,

and he's like, this is my last interview, Dan.

I'm doing it for closure.

I'm retiring.

I'll never coach again.

So he's saying that at Iona, but yeah, he's definitely –

this is a stepping stone for sure.

He's just trying to get his way.

And I think the place for him, I'm calling my shot, is going to be Boston College. Boston College is about to fire their coach.
They were going to fire their coach last year, but then COVID hit. They just got a new athletic director.
His contract's kind of running up anyway. Boston College is about to be open, and it a catholic school i own as a catholic school rick patino is a catholic man it's all it all lines up coached in providence old b old big east old big east ties boston college has like some you know that they had the 1979 point shaving scandal they have a little checker pass themselves so they'll get together and they'll be like listen bygones are bygones you're reformed we're reformed let's get together and uh give each other another chance what do you say i love i i love how your mind's thinking on that one and thinking back to that press conference i don't even remember what he was doing in that like what the purpose of the press conference was he was just giving a press conference to say fuck you to not apologize yeah yeah it's like i'd like to welcome all the journalists here to tell them to suck my dick i just know that whenever and again i'm not saying anything bad about rick patino i am i officially am not but when you do a press conference at your lawyer's office never a good sign that's not like things are going well do you remember that whole summer he kept invoking his brother-in-law who uh was killed in nine in the attack.
And he kept doing it as like a sympathy thing because the dorm that in Louisville that the strippers were at that caused the whole thing was named after his brother-in-law.

So for some reason, he felt like when he would do these, people would ask him like,

Rick, you've lied throughout this whole process.

You've cheated many times over and you finally got caught and fired for it. Do you want to say you're sorry? He's like, my brother-in-law died 9-11, and you're like, what does that have to do with you? That was the reason why he couldn't be guilty because never in a million years would he send hookers over to a building that had his dead brother's name on it.
So obviously you can't even look at him as a suspect in that. And the craziest thing about Rick Pitino, and this will actually be in defense of Rick Pitino, I mean, he's obviously a phenomenal coach, but he's no crazier than any other major college coach.
He just got caught with some of his craziness. This is why Rick Pitino's pissed off about why he was fired.
Because when the dust has settled, and I guess it hasn't completely settled yet, but the FBI whole situation, where if you're not like in the the nitty-gritty of college basketball uh you know the fbi thing hit you expected like everybody to be fired right um rick patino is basically the only name that carries any weight that was fired over all of that and i think he's bitter about that and rightfully so he's looking around he's like what the hell like sean miller will wade hello right and i got fired and he's the old he's the guy who kind of invented the game too so he's like why why does will wade get to keep his job and i don't get to keep mine and i think he's just upset about it which is why he's definitely going to get a power conference job he's definitely going to like make one last push where he's going to have a good team that's that's like final four good he's got to go to be at boston he's got to go to a team that is practiced and tried and true at just ignoring scandals because they will go away like right lsu was just like yeah all right there might be stuff allegedly on tape but if we just don't talk about it we'll let him back on campus after a week and a half and you've said this mark and it is true like the rick patino got screwed the ncaa is so hypocritical with everything they do and the only reason they cared is because the FBI got involved, and the NCAA looks the other way on everything because they have billions of dollars at risk. So if you are Rick Pitino, I think you do have kind of a fair gripe.
Be like, yo, this was the deal. You guys look the other way.
I put out a good team. We all make a shitload of money.
That's college basketball. Exactly.
That is his whole point of view that's why all of his rhetoric is like i take full responsibility but none of this is my fault which like contradicts the idea of taking full risk like he said but it's kind of true sort of stuff but it's kind of true that's where he's coming from he's like i don't understand this is the game i played the game we're all playing the same game why am i going down for this i don't understand i'm very confused um but he'll be back he'll definitely go back if you go back and you watch that HBO miniseries that came out it was just like uh Christian Dawkins the only reason why the coaches even got involved was because the FBI told the runners to get the coaches involved to try to trap them in it when they didn't have like there was no reason to be bringing them they get made they get paid millions of dollars a year they don't need twenty thousand dollars for like one guy going to their school so really it comes down to like the fbi had a hard-on for rick patino at the end of the day and it's we're in fucking bizarro world that we find ourselves defending rick patino yes this vociferously on a podcast but i will continue to make fun of him i will not i will not i have a mid-major question for you. Yep.
Sister Jean's still alive.

I'll tell you, you're going to say, is Creighton going to be good this year?

Well, Creighton.

I'm going to piss everyone off.

Creighton is not going to be good this year.

Creighton is going to be great this year.

AOC, right?

Yes, AOC.

AOC.

Is AOC going to make the difference?

Okay, pick one of these two mid-majors.

Creighton or Loyola with what's his name? Cameron Crutwick, the big guy that can dish it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, which team is going to be better between those two? Yeah. Definitely Creighton.
The mid-major to watch out for, the mid-major to get excited about is UConn. They get so mad when you say that.
It's awesome. UConn is the only blue blood mid-major we have in college basketball.
I think that's what's so unique about them. Xavier.
They are simultaneously a blue blood but also a mid-major. The serious answer, I think Richmond is a team a lot of people are excited about.
They play great defense. They bring a lot of guys back.
That's the saying. That's the reason to get excited about them.

Don't ask me to name any of those guys.

I just say they bring them back, and then you guys nod along and be like,

oh, that sounds good.

They're going to be pretty good.

I think they're the favorites in the A-10.

Yeah, I don't know who else.

There are a couple Southern Conference teams like Furman and UNC Greensboro

people are high on, but whatever.

Is UConn going to be good? I fucking love Danny Hurley. I love, love, love Danny Hurley.
So they got this guy, James Booknight, who is not Kimba Walker, is not Shabazz Napier, but the team is going to be good. They're going to have to follow the Kimba Shabazz model of just like give the ball to this guy and everyone get the hell out of the way.
So I don't know how good they're going to be, but they're going to be UConn. They're going to feel like UConn, you know, like if they squeak into the tournament, it's going to feel like UConn.
Cause James book night is just going to have to average 30 a game and carry the team on his back, which is going to be awesome. They need a, if, if they're going to be truly UConn, then they need a big guy who's like a little, little limited, but has a few games, like a Josh Boone.
Who was the other guy? Hashim Thabit was – Villanueva was on some good teams. Jeff Griffin? No.
Jeff Griffin? No. Jeff Adrian.
Jeff Adrian. He was in that line where it's like every now and then they'd have a huge game and be like this guy's real yeah yeah uh who who was that on the the shit they had i i i get the 14 11 it's been so long i get those teams was it oryaki was it was yeah one of the guys like where he was just like randomly during the nc turn around would have like three good plays yes he'd kind of disappear again damn um watch out for them I love Danny Hurley, though.
I want him to do well because he is so – I actually think we should probably, now that I'm saying this out loud, it might be too late, but maybe for Big East play. Wait, is UConn back in the Big East? Yeah, they are.
Yeah, they're back in the Big East. This year, yeah.
We could do like over, under for the season technical fouls for Danny Hurley. He's good for one every like three games.
The Dan Hurley move I'm calling. It's not going to happen, but it would be awesome, is Sean Miller gets fired at Arizona, and then Dan Hurley gets hired at Arizona.
Yeah. Then Hurley.
And Hurley is at Arizona State in Arizona. Yeah.
Wow. That's what I have my fingers crossed.
It's not going to happen.

All right, so let's do a little Pac-12,

and then we'll circle back and finish with the ACC. There's another huge news.
We're just going to skip over Shaka Smart's hair? Oh, well, we talked about Kansas and Baylor, but yeah, Shaka Smart. He's got hair.
Pac-12, do we care? Are they going to be – If we do the traditional stereotypes of the Pac-12,

Washington will have three lottery picks and win four games. Oregon will be really, really good because their coach is awesome.
UCLA will have a moment where everyone will be like, is UCLA back? And, yeah, Arizona. Arizona will be good losing the Elite Eight.
Oregon will be good, but in a way that kind of what you just did without even realizing it where you don't know anyone's name. You don't even know the coach.
Most people don't even know the coach's name. They just know that Oregon's good.
Maybe you're lucky if you know Peyton Pritchard was the point guard there, but no one actually watches them. You just know you're supposed to say they're good.
Yeah, that seems to be what happens with Oregon Oregon's gonna be good uh so Arizona's gonna suck um they're they're gonna be really bad UCLA's gonna be good it's UCLA and Arizona State I think in all seriousness the Pac-12 will be worth watching for uh the Pac-12 has been good but I think they were good last year but uh I think this is the first season a long time going into the season I'm actually excited to watch pac-12 basketball in a very long time they have uh stanford has a kid a five-star kid zair williams who played with uh bronnie james and d-way's son and was actually the best player on that team that's a fun little stat yeah yeah so stanford is gonna have like a good a five-star that's gonna be good uh arizona state's loaded they got they got five stars and remy martin's back he's an all-american um ucla brings their whole team back They're kind of the Wisconsin of the West Coast Where they got hot at the end of the year They won The Pac-12 Yeah, Pac-12's going to be good You guys are Mick Cronin guys I feel like you make fun of Mick Cronin a lot I don't understand how I got this reputation Because you're a big hollywood guy you're a big west coast guy and you lost you lost your roots in ohio i just like lebron james myself and mick we're the triumvirate of guys from ohio that moved to la and uh yeah i'll just try to i'll just try to find a way to invoke lebron that was really i mean you do look good i actually texted you i texted titus totally out of the blue like two months ago, and I was like, hey, bro, we don't do this enough with each other as men, but you're looking good. I appreciate that.
You did look good. I saw you.
I saw a picture of you on the beach. I was like, dude, you're skinny.
The bulimia is doing me well, yeah. Where are we at on the diet? Bad.
Are we ebbin' orbing are we flowing we gave up till january 1st we threw in the towel there's there's a moment every november early november where i'm like am i gonna try no all right yeah and now like even even thanksgiving week i'm like dude it's thanksgiving week i'm gonna eat what you say i will say 24 at one point you said you were gonna be like i'm gonna start doing this thing where work out for an hour and a half. Oh, it's 75 hard.
75 hard is my new thing. It's every day for 75 days straight.
If you fuck up, you have to restart. You have to work out for an hour and a half.
You have to be on a diet. You have to drink a gallon of water and read 10 pages of a book.
Jesus. And then you have to tweet about it and tell everybody that you did it.
I think that's probably a part of the 75-hard diet, too. Yeah.
Nobody does that diet without telling everybody that they're doing it. Right.
And it's one of those things that you find this diet late at night on a Saturday after watching too many sports and eating ice cream. You're like, all right, tomorrow, 75-hard.
I haven't started yet because that's actually the hard part. It's so hard.
I haven't even started. In all honesty, living in California, it just it's it's I don't know.
It's hard to find things that have gravy on them. It's the weather.
That sucks. Yeah.
Yeah. The weather is always nice.
So you kind of feel like you got to be in shape because you're like you can't hide it with sweats. Right, so how much are you benching? Yeah.
286. Oh, that's pretty good.
286. That's huge.
That's huge. Yeah, is that? Yeah.
That's really impressive. It's a random big number.
For a former college athlete, that's really impressive to be able to bench. 286.
I couldn't imagine benching even a pound less than that. No.
I don't know what I would think. Yeah, you miss your – what was that restaurant you took us to in Columbus? Where we walked in.
Nancy. Where did we go? Did we go to Nancy? Well, we walked in and Ty's like, let's go to this place.
It's a great place. Walk in, look to the right, and he's like, oh, yeah, there's a framed picture of me here.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Totally close to that.
Shout out Varsity Club. Yeah, yeah.
I like that. Yeah, I need to do that.
I need to work that again. I need to go back to Columbus and make that happen.
By the way, speaking of, we brought up Billy Bench-Presti and Rosillo and all that shit. Oh, is that what you're talking about? No, you didn't.
You said you were just Bench-Tri. Yeah.
Coincidence. Put on the headphones, Billy.
I want to ask you guys, should I, you guys know Rosillo better me should i how do we are we worried about him at all because i keep seeing these videos that he's putting out with the ringer and and he came on your show and everything you thought you're making fun of my backdrop having this this man looks like he's in a basement like no and and i'm and i'm just worried i know he lives down in manhattan beach so i'm the californ – we're all four, like, you know, we're kind of buddies and all that.

I'm the California guy.

Like, should I worry about him?

Should I go down and visit him?

I don't know.

I never know how to approach Priscilla.

Like what I was talking about with Huggins earlier, it's the same with Priscilla.

Like, I love the guy to death, but I also think that, like,

the last thing he wants is me to text him and say,

what's up, bro, you want to hang? I think his backdrop in his room that, yeah, looks like a dorm room, I think that's just response to a certain podcast he did like six months ago. Trying to keep it nice and minimalist.
I'm a regular guy. Yeah, if you go into the next room, that's where you have the original Warhols that hang on there.
Right, right. What's the dude who has the big bubble sculptures? The Jeff something? I know who you're talking about.
Shit. Were they the Caliches? Calices? Bubbles.
We're so cultured. I'm looking.
I saw one down in Atlantic City earlier. Bubble sculptures, Jeff.
Uh-huh. The mouse head thing? No, Jeff Koons.
Jeff Koons. No, I'm thinking about something else.
Oh, yeah, the balloon animal thing. Yeah, the big balloon.
Jeff Koons. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, we know Art. No, who's the other guy that does the glass artists? It's Choluli.
Choluli. That's what I was thinking.
No, that's the hot sauce. Cholula is the hot sauce.
Choluli is. Yeah, he's got original Cholulis.
He actually has just. He's got a bunch of Cholulis.
He's got an overhead projector that just shows his Onus Wagner card on his projector screen on the wall at all times. So it's kind of like art.
I think you should just hit him up. Rosillo's one of those guys that every time I talk to him, it's like, man, I should talk to him more because like, it's just, he's like, he's thinking about stuff better than everyone else.
That's kind of where he's always at. I think the nicest thing you could do to Rosillo as a friend is just hit him up and be like, Hey man, you want to hang out sometime? And let him reject you.
And he'll feel good about that. But that's as good as hanging out for him.
All right. All right.
I'll do it that way. I feel like maybe the guy is a little bit of a loner already.
And then the quarantine situation is happening. California, we're still very shut down out here.
So I worry about him. I don't know.
I don't know how to play it. I don't want i i yeah i don't know if i'm supposed to reach out to him or not and i i don't know if he said this on the pod but i might have said it but he in the most rusillo thing ever he built a gym in his uh in his garage i think and he when he was building it he like got trapped behind it trying to build it and like literally almost died from his squat rack which would have been the greatest death of all time.
If Ryan Russillo died because he got stuck behind his squat rack for seven days? He texted me and was like, yeah, for the last 20 minutes I've been stuck behind my squat rack trying to build this thing. You know what you should do? You should just find out where he's going to be shooting hoops one day.
Roll up. And then let him get hot for a second.
Just warming up. And then right before they pick teams, go out there and start filling it up.
Yes. Yeah.
That's a good call. Alright, Chaka smart.
Give us some Texas talk. Texas five-star recruit, Greg Brown.
That's a local kid from Austin. It's the same thing every year with Texas.
It's like this has to be the year for Chaka. He's got a good team.
But they're actually like not that awesome. And they're in the Big 12, which is going to be loaded.
I think it's just going to be more of the same. He's going to do enough to make you sort of believe that he could turn the corner at some point.
But they're not going to turn the corner this year. Yeah, they're not.
We're going to be back next year. I think he's going to be fired this year.
They would go back and take Rick Barnes in a heartbeat, I think, over the Shockersmart experiment. They should just have Matthew McConaughey move his way down the bench over the course of the season until he's just coaching the team.
I actually feel like Matthew McConaughey, just through the power of his motivation and the talent that is assembled in Austin, he could probably be a better coach than Shaka Smart. Yeah.
I don't disagree with that. I think you're right.
I think, yeah. What if that's all really Texas needs? Is just McConaughey...
Is he tight with the basketball program? He is. Yeah, he's on the bench sometimes.
Well, I know he's tight with football. Yeah, he's on the bench sometimes with the basketball team.
I like your analysis of Texas. Essentially, they will have a second-half lead against Kansas and blow it and lose by five.
Yeah, and then I will be – like a year from now, I will be doing the exact same show we're doing now where we're previewing next season. And you're like, Shaka, what do you think? And I'm like, Texas will be all right.
But I don't know. We'll see.
This is the year, though. Shaka has to show me this year or else he's gone.
Yeah, it's the same thing every year. I forgot.
We also have to talk to SEC. My guy, Muss.
Arkansas, baby. Come on.
I mean, obviously, it's Kentucky and Tennessee, right? But Arkansas is a good team. And Isaiah Joe, like, he was injured a couple games last year.
They weren't great last year, but I believe in Muss more than probably, like, almost every coach in the league because he just does the thing with the transfers. He has a style, and it works.
Nevada was so good when he was there. He's very fun.
He's a little corny, but he's self-aware of how corny he is. I don't, I don't think they're going to be that good, but I don't think the SEC is going to be that good.
So that could work in their favor to where they could, I think Florida is going to be all right. We said Tennessee and Kentucky are the favorites, certainly.

But, yeah, after that, like, LSU could have a pretty good team,

which, like, that is the villain situation that I think is brewing

that I don't think America's really ready for is, like,

Will Wade having a juggernaut at LSU.

Ooh, yes.

Yeah, like, because the thing is, like, Bill Self is – you know,

there's bad vibes of Bill Self in the FBI situation. But Bill Self's kind of earned the right.
He's like an old head. We've seen him before.
We're familiar with him. And the same with Kay, like all these other guys, it's like, it's a devil, you know, type situation.
So you kind of like don't love what he's up to, but, and you know, you're used to it. Will Wade is the newcomer.
And I think the idea will wade just like setting everything on fire and you guys watch the documentary i mean like sean miller

his approach was like trying to be subtle and having fall guys and all that and they said many

times over will wade's a gangster like he'll be on the phone straight up talking to these people

offering money left and right and uh the idea of will wade having a great team at lsu would would

break the college like it would just break college basketball people would lose their but like the

old heads that cover college basketball would be beside the pat 40 would just be in rage right

I'm sorry. great team at LSU would would break the college like it would just break college basketball people would lose it but like the old heads that cover college basketball would be beside the pat 40 would just be in rage right in column after column like this is disgraceful what LSU has done Digger Phelps would be like just snapping highlighters in half on television I like that people don't talk enough about the SEC being the conference of coaches this year they get a lot of shine in football but in basketball they've got our guys they've got buzz williams tom creen please tell me one pick please tell me one of those two guys is going to have a decent team this year uh no but buzz williams have a better team than tom creen but uh yeah tom tom creen already won this year he had the number one pick in the draft that's true he should get that framed and put it behind him when he does interviews like Coach Cal does with all of his number one picks.
So obviously they have Coach Cal. There's a shitload of great coaches in the SEC.
Rick Barnes. Rick Barnes.
Muscleman. Frank Martin who said that he wishes that he was a football coach, which is the best quality that you can have in a basketball coach.
Ben Howland's in the SEC. He went to three Final Fours at UCLA.
He's at Mississippi State now,

and he's kind of forgotten about. Definitely forgotten

about. Nobody even remembers that he's

Cody. He went with the three straight Final Fours.

All right,

ACC, who's going to win it?

Virginia.

Virginia's going to win it.

Over under 52 points a game

for Virginia.

They'll be better than they...

That's a great question. They'll be better than they were last year offensively.
But, yeah, they're not going to – it's going to be the same old Virginia. But that's why they're going to win it.
Duke is too young and too dukey. Like, Duke doesn't even win the ACC anymore anyway.
They haven't won it in 10 years. Carolina's just not good enough, I don't think.
Florida State's the other one. It's basically those four.
Virginia's by far the best team, so I think Virginia's going to win it. I don't know.
Virginia's just... I can't get mad at Virginia because they play literally the same style as Wisconsin, just a little bit better.
But, yeah, I mean, it is one of those things where you don't think you're fat until you see, like, a picture of yourself. That's when I watch Virginia basketball, I'm like, oh, this is the team I root for? I get why people hate us.
Yeah, they're – I don't know. I don't know really what else.
Like, they're going to be – they're going to actually be good, and that's the other pressure. But last year, Virginia wasn't that good by their standards, so I think there's a little delight in the idea of them not scoring a lot of points because you're like, yeah, they're not really a threat anyway.
But this year, they're going to be good. They're good enough to win a national title.
Would they be repeat champs? If they won, they'd have to be, right? I guess so. I don't know.
I don't know. titles i want them to play uh we had the the all-time moment i think it was against purdue maybe last year where the over-under was like 99.5 yeah and it's like how is this possible and then you bet the over it's electric last year as a reminder virginia last year opened the season they held syracuse to 34 points carrier don't that was, that was Syracuse's first game.
They scored 34 points. See, I can't joke about those because there was that Big Ten tournament game.
I think it was Wisconsin-Penn State where I think it was like 60 points total scored. Do you remember that game? Yeah, I do remember that game.
Yeah, that was like the – who were the best players on Wisconsin? I'm looking it up right now. I think Wisconsin scored 32 points.
Oh, 36-33 was the final. Yeah, 36-33.
That's so bad. What year is that? Like 12? 2011.
11. Oh, my guy Taylor Battle was playing on Penn State.
Was that like Jordan Taylor and John Lohr? Yeah, John Lohr, Josh Gasser, Bruzowitz. God damn it.
So, yeah, I can't. I recuse myself from the conversation about low-scoring teams.
I'm going to give a back-to-back title to UVA, though, if they win again. And only because I can count that for Washington, D.C.
area championships. It's close enough.
It's like two and a half hours, three hours away. We'll take it however we can get it.

One fun thing that I picked up this year is a brand new team, Dixie State.

Do you know where Dixie State is?

I don't, but if I guessed...

Connecticut.

Yeah. It feels like a Texas school.

Nope.

I know Texas doesn't count as Dixie, but it just feels like Texas is always the answer. It's in Utah.
Dixie State is in Utah, and they're a brand-new basketball program. You've got to learn their mascot, Mark.
It's like Utah being called the Jazz. Utah and the Jazz, yeah.
That's a great, great, great callback. Yeah, what is their mascot? Trailblazers or something?

He's going to do a fox hit in like two seconds.

Yeah, so make sure to use this.

One thing to look out for is brand new.

I just like the idea of there being a brand new basketball team. Like they just get born.

Well, Tarleton State's another one.

I think they're in the same conference.

Tarleton State is Billy Gillespie.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Billy Gillespie is the coach of Tarleton.

Trailblazers.

The Trailblazers for Dixie State. Tarleton State? Did anybody else catch that? What? That I literally fucking called it.
What? The Trailblazers. Yeah, you know you had that.
I said Trailblazers. Yeah.
Yeah, as you were looking it up. You had it.
I'll be goddamn. Yeah, you get credit for that.
Tarleton State. I love that.
I might be a Tarleton State guy. Billy Gillespie.
What a joke he is. All right.
The final question is brought to you by cross country mortgage america's crazy good mortgage company go to ccm lens.com slash take to learn more about your future home buying experience or refinancing needs equal housing opportunity uh any last big things i'm thinking about like you want to give us champion i uh oh a champion uh to to win it all. Coronavirus.
Uh, screw it. I'll say Gonzaga.
I think Gonzaga beats Gonzaga beats a big 10 team. And I just don't know which team it is.
So our Gonzaga finally does it. Our college.
Yeah, that's good. Our college basketball expert, Mark tight is coming on and picking the number one team.
Number one team in the country. Fascinating.
Yeah. We're the best recruit in the country.
Really go out on a limb there. Who's a dark horse? I'll pick a team that's unranked.
Let me see. If I had to pick an unranked team, who am I picking? I like this.
Shit. None of them.
UConn. Go UConn.
Maybe that's what's going to happen. Maybe it's like this is this is a weird season this is gonna be the dumbest season ever like games are getting canceled left and right it is an absolute shit show and I feel like maybe we get the tournament uh just chaos is gonna reign supreme and it just feels like a UConn that's when UConn wins that's when UConn is at their best is when chaos is thriving and uh maybe that's what happens it's also good for all the all the players that are really good in practice but can't score in games and their fans they're like this would have been your year to be you probably would have won player of the year this year you're absolutely right i would have been oh actually that reminds me uh before we let you go one last question uh remind us again who was on your aau team what no i forgot i you know do Do you want to talk about the season this year too and how i'm a diehard calves fan and what it whoops hey how how uh in all seriousness big hat how worried are you about lebron getting six uh with with modern medicine and the hgh he's doing i worried.
Yeah. And also stacking the teams and all that stuff.

Yeah.

So skirting the salary cap.

Basically cheating.

Yeah.

With cheating, I think he could get six.

All right.

He's kind of whatever.

Baby Braun.

He might bring baby Braun himself.

He has a resurgence here.

We're big on the baby bronze these days because he just every good player.

He's like like that reminds

me of myself he just adopts them yeah dk metcalf baby brawn yeah dk metcalf how many beat the shit the other the other question i have how many guys you got working on the show now i feel like i haven't met a lot we got six people in the studio right now uh yeah yeah jake and billy billy's been looking at his phone researching obelisks for the last hour i i only knew jake is like the uh the faux Rovell.

Yeah.

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He's a college basketball podcaster. He's got a show called Bench Mob.
You should go on the Bench Mob. We're Bench Mob, guys.
You should go on the Bench Mob podcast. Yeah, I'm buying Jake Marsh stock.
Yes. We would love to have you on, Mark.
Yeah, i would love to come on i are they treating you well jake i don't want you to get shoehorned as a uh yeah i've seen i was on a lot for me no he's jake is a jake is like the perfect rising star in the college basketball and media business he's a syracuse grad from the journalism school i love it did play by. I love it.
Did play-by-play for Vermont for two years.

You know, made his bones there.

Now is calling Jenga.

There's some context to it.

Jake, when is your contract up?

When can I hire you?

All right, cut his line.

If you know anyone that needs someone to call games, freelance.

Let's put that out there into the universe. Once again, we'll say Jake is looking to be a play-by-play voice of any basketball.
Oh, we should. Jake, you should call a game and I'll do it.
I'm trying to call some games too. I'm trying to be the color commenter.
Let's do it. Let's do it.
You have the plugs at Fox. Let's figure it out.
Yeah. Yeah, we'll get Fox to do it.
We'll do some big sky conference. Oh, you guys should do Dixie State versus Tarleton State.
I'm there. Are you going to any of these tournaments? Yeah.
So next week I'll be in Maui, Maui, North Carolina. I'm flying out Friday.
I'll be in Asheville all week. We've got to get tested every day, all that kind of stuff.
So it'll actually be a good tournament. It's not going to be the same, not in Maui, not in the soft rims.
Carolina's in it. Indiana's in it.
Texas, Providence. You guys love Ed Cooley.
I forget if Davidson's in it. UNLV.
I'm forgetting one. But, yeah, it's a pretty good field.
They should let the coaches still wear the Hawaiian shirts. That's the nicest part of the knowledge.
I don't care that it's in North Carolina. Oh, that's what I'm wearing.
All the coverage we're doing there, I'm wearing my Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses and just pretending I'm in Hawaii. Just promise me, because this will happen within, I would say, next three years, Barstow will have a Feast Week tournament.
So you'll have to come to that. I will definitely come.
Where would it be? It would probably be in the middle of Ohio or something. Are we on the call? Yeah, no, Jake will be on the call.
No, you've got to find a Caribbean, a cash-poor Caribbean country that would be excited to have you. On the island that had the Fyre Fest.
No, I think it's funnier if we do it. Yeah, we'll we'll take over that island we'll set up tents i think it's funny if we find a small gym in indiana or ohio and we just we just totally treat it to uh like as biased as you can get where it's like all right it's the tournament is west virginia and the worst yeah seven teams we can find west virginia just gets like nine wins and we just have them play back to back to back to back.
And Huggy, all of a sudden you look up, it's November 24th, and West Virginia is 12-0. You should do it in an Indiana high school gym, and then you win Braver with all the Indiana people because they just love that you're doing the Hoosier hysteria.
They should do that for the tournament. Why aren't we playing a couple games there? I think it's too small.
I think it's like 10 feet small. The courts are shorter, but they have enough leeway.
My dad's entire life was a high school athletic director, and I'm telling you, he's retired now, but if my dad was still an athletic director, the moment they make that announcement, my dad is getting on the phone at the school board saying, we've got to knock our gym down. Wait, so are you telling me that that scene in Hoosiers was full of shit when they measured the court? Like some of the courts in Hoosiers, like some of the courts in Indiana are not actually the same length.
No, no, no. It's high school to college.
High school to college is different. Okay.
You're both right. Oh, yeah, because it wasn't Butler.
The hoop is still 10 feet. Of course I remember the hoop being 10 feet.
But the length of the court, yes.

The college court is 10 feet longer than an Indiana high school court.

So Hoosiers was kind of lying to you.

Yeah, it was a little bit of bullshit.

It was not a documentary.

I'm going to kill Jim Hatton.

Wait, you're on the side of Hoosiers is kind of overrated, right?

Oh, come on.

No.

Absolutely not.

Are you crazy?

I rewatched it during quarantine, and it hurt my soul.

That and the program. I watched those two movies, and movies and i was like no not as good as i remember no uh hoosiers is overrated in the same way seinfeld is unfunny and it's because every other sports movie that's come after it has tried to recreate hoosiers so now when you go back and re-watch it i like hoosiers i'm saying i watched it back and i was like it might not have been like when anyone would ask you what's your favorite sports movie I'd always be like Hoosiers Hoosiers Hoosiers yeah like the Model T is not a great car in 2020 either Dan okay all right we have to respect this place in history that it invented an entire fucking genre of movie which is like the the underdog sappy I think it's the last scene that bothered me.
Cause they like, they just didn't guard.

Yeah.

They like,

didn't shoot.

It was like a righty and they just shaded him left.

You just don't like,

you don't like Hickory style play.

You made that clear.

You don't like Virginia.

You don't like Hickory playing stall ball.

You wanted Hickory to shoot three and D.

What was that movie?

Where was the guy and the girl playing pickup outside? And it had the most preposterous one-on-one scene of all time.

You guys know what I'm talking about, right? Was that, You're talking love and basketball? Yeah, love and basketball. Yeah.
Big catch, Matt, because the basketball scene in Hoosiers doesn't match up. It was poorly coached at the very...
No, I watched Hoosiers the whole time and I was like, could you imagine if you could just put Steph Curry in 1950s Indiana? He's just like... they would actually burn him at the cross they'd be

like well maybe for like well now we're getting another shit yeah but yeah they would be like he's a witch yeah yeah the the you watch the bob kuzi highlights and you hear about how great of a player bob kuzi was and you see his highlights and he like dribbles behind his back once yeah and everyone just everyone just falls on the ground he starts shaking All right.

Well, Mark, thank you.

It's always been fun. Everyone go listen to Titus and Tate.
See him on Fox Sports. You also have a podcast with our friend Charlotte Wilder.
You're everywhere, dude. It's going well.
I enjoy Fox. Fox is treating me well.
We launched the – in all seriousness, I came on – when was the last time I was on here? Right after the tournament was canceled and you guys just basically patted me on the back and said it's not your fault. It's going to be okay.
Yeah. But we launched the podcast right before the season was, you know, we had the season we did and I was really down on the dumps, but everything's going well now and we're back.
So it's good. Everything's going great at Fox.
happy i'm living a california lifestyle i don't see the last thing i have to report dad is uh the california teens are non-existent right now uh coronavirus has i think this might be a this might be a journalistic uh uh uh an assignment for billy or something bring billy out here to bench with uh rostillo and then find out what happened to the california teens they're nowhere to be found. I drive around and they're nowhere.
They're done. I think they're all in the Sway House.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's all the TikTokers. Like the TikTok houses have taken them all up, got them off the streets.
I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
I live kind of close to the beach and there used to be a ton of them just hanging out and skateboarding and shit. I don't know where they are.
I don't happened to them but covid has has done a number on them and they're going to be found and i just i find that interesting so that's the report from out here i got rounded up by a bunch of the pizza gate people got them yeah yes yes all right titus thanks so much man happy college basketball back talk to you later mark titus was brought to you by the national highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA for short.

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I'm fucking mad. I'm mad not because wisconsin minnesota got canceled aren't you happy they lost now oh that's a good yeah no if they won if they had won this would have been way worse great spin zone that's awesome man imagine how how disappointed you would be imagine how like pissed off you'd be at this virus oh my god but i'm no now i'm just mad at stupid people who are like can't go to the conference it it's like dude you when you lose northwestern you you can't go they're not gonna lose two out of the last three i just like to come also everyone's eligible for for bowl you're still eligible yeah yeah everyone is so people are done i want people to start reading the fucking rules once you'll probably yeah you'll play in a decent bowl game i'm sure i don't care i just want to watch more football but i just want want to congratulate you on personal growth because you're not mad at Hank for this.
No, I wouldn't be mad at Hank. No, I would never be mad at Hank.
Never mad at Hank. No, I would not be mad at Hank for this.
For this. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Hank for this.
He had nothing to do with this. Jake, maybe.
Jake, maybe. What'd I do? You broke the news.
Yeah. So you're on the fucking hot seat.
You'd rather learn it from me than your computer. I'm just kidding.
No, I appreciate that. I actually would rather learn it from you than all the people tweeting me being very mean online.
It's the holiday season. All right.
Let's do a little Sunday preview. Big games, by the way, in college football.
Iron Bowl. Alabama's going to fuck Auburn up.
The stat I've been throwing out there, which I'll share with you right now. Nick Saban is 6-0 all-time against Auburn as 14 or more point favorites.
So, when he has them, he has them. I love the Iowa-Nebraska game just because it's my favorite color game of the year.
And then ND, Notre Dame versus UNC is going to be awesome.

Yeah, that's another good uniform game right there. Another good uniform game.

So is Penn State-Michigan, which is going to be the toilet bowl.

Well, what's going to be funny about that is it's going to look like the real thing.

It's going to look awesome.

Correct.

And it's probably going to be close.

Correct.

So you might walk out of this game thinking whoever wins is a good team.

Don't fool yourself.

Right.

Don't do that.

Right, right.

All right, let's talk a little Sunday for NFL. Raiders, Falcons, go.
I like the Falcons. I like the Falcons a lot.
This does feel like this feels... I like them a lot.
This is the week of home dogs for me. This feels like a Raiders, if you are going to be considered for real, you've got to beat the Falcons.
You've got to beat them convincingly. But I like the Falcons this week a lot.
Yeah, I like a lot of these dogs too. Chargers, Bills, it really actually kind of sucked not having Josh Allen in our life for a week.
I missed them. I missed the Bills.
I missed them big time. I like the Bills.
Yeah. Giants-Bengals pass.
Giants are going to kill them. I don't know.
Good-ish Giants. I don't know.
I'm looking at the Giants schedule real quick. This is the ultimate game that reminds me that I have no idea what's going on in the NFL.
Because, obviously, the Giants should kill them, right? They will. Everyone thinks they're going to win.
They will. I'm going to zag.
They will. All right.
Giants, Bengals is – so, yeah, they're going to – no, they're going to kill them. They're going to kill them.
Titans, Colts. Titans.
Yeah, Billy. All right, there we go.
Titans, Colts, Titans. I don't know.
Are the Colts good? Titans got momentum. Are the Colts good? Their defense is good.
I offensive line is good when they're not being called for holding. There's no chance that the refs come out and call as many holds as they did last week.
Yeah. It's just impossible.
It's impossible for that to happen. Good point.
Good point. Yeah, I don't know if the Colts, I just can't.
Imagine if the Colts went to the Super Bowl. I mean, they could.
We've talked about this. They could man up the Chiefs.
This is the part of the season, too, where it kind of sucks when you get, like, two bad teams going against each other. It's like, what's the point? Panthers, Vikings, like, what's the point? No point.
No point whatsoever. What's the point? Cardinals, Patriots, Hank.
What's the point? Yeah. I think the Patriots are going to finish the stretch by going back and forth of like, ooh, look at the Patriots.

Ooh, they stink.

So they'll win this game.

Yeah, I agree with that.

That kind of deal.

I also think that Belichick is really good against teams that historically have sucked.

Yes.

I'm always going to look at the Cardinals franchises.

Oh, they'll always stink.

Yeah.

There's no chance that they can beat Bill Belichick at home.

Yes.

Yes.

No, there's absolutely.

I mean, the Dolphins-Jets is the next game.

Dolphins.

I can't stop looking at the Dolphins and being like, easy win. Easy win.
And thinking, like, easy win. But they're not.
They're good. What is gonna happen with Tua? What is gonna happen with Tua? Like, you gotta start Fitzy here for the revenge game factor.
Flores admitted that Tua got benched because he sucked. So now what happens if Tua sucks again? Yeah, what's the altitude in New Jersey Jersey in the Meadowlands? Sea level.
It's a swamp, right? What? So it might even be below sea level. Yes, it is sea level.
That's where Jimmy Hoffa's body is buried. That's for the altitude.
Yeah, you're right. I appreciate that.
Thank you. I was genuinely curious of what the Meadowlands altitude was.
And you answered, so I'm going to go with... I don't care if it's Tua or if it's Fitzy.
It's the Dolphins. Yeah, it's the Dolphins.
That's actually a pretty good way to sum up how I feel about the Dolphins this season. Doesn't matter who's playing quarterback.
It's the Dolphins. I'm going with that.
It's house money for the Dolphins right now. Oh, don't say that.
You've got to make the playoffs. Last year, you guys made an awkward dolphin sex sound on every show.
No, it was dolphins getting murdered. Sex problem? Dolphin slaughter, you freak.
Sex problem? You got to see a sex problem? Is that what sex sounds like, TJ? What kind of sex do you have? Who are you having sex with, Jake? You having sex with dolphins? No. You addicted to dolphin fucking? There is that guy.
Remember that guy? He fucked a dolphin. The dolphin killed itself.
Yeah. As heard on part of my take.
You should know that. Billy, you're an animal guy.
You're an animal fucker. Whoa.
He only knows like three facts. Did the Dolphin kill itself or was his blowhole just obstructed for a prolonged period of time? No, it legit jumped out of the tank.
I'm just saying, they've come a long way on this podcast compared to a year. They have.
No, we like the Dolphins now. Yes, we do like the Dolphins now.
Browns, Jaguars, is Minshew back? I don't think so. This is another game.
So the Raiders and the Browns have a you-better-win-and-win-convincingly type of games. That's the only way I'm going to start being like, okay, these are teams that are going to make the playoffs and make noise.
Okay, I'm looking up the Jacksonville weather forecast for this weekend. It's going to be 32 degrees and sunny in Jacksonville.
32? No, I'm just making that up.

Damn.

Well, no, that happens every now and then, and everyone freaks out.

The 10-day weather forecast tells me that on Sunday it's going to be 73,

but it's going to be rainy.

So it might be fucked up weather.

Yes.

If it's fucked up weather, then yes, the Browns are going to win.

And I just read that all of the Jacksonville Jaguars defensive staff

all has cocoa.

Oh, the cocoa.

It just keeps fucking following us around. All right, 49ers Rams.
This is a sneaky 49ers game, right? The 49ers, we put that team into the, like, it could happen. Was that the category? Yeah, it's like, eh, maybe.
Maybe. Yeah, maybe.
49ers, I'm never going to count out Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, no.

And remember that we had the

fact from earlier this year that Kyle Shanahan

and Sean McVay are like best friends

but they don't speak football to each

other because they're afraid that one of the other

ones is going to steal their thoughts.

And this is a game where

McVay is going to think back in his

photographic memory to all the weird stuff

that Kyle's done to him in the past.

But Kyle lives in the future.

Kyle's going to be like,

I'm going to do some new weird shit to him that he hasn't remembered yet.

Saints Broncos.

I'm excited for this game because I feel like John Elway is going to watch

Taysom Hill and try to offer him $500 million after this.

It's everything that he had wanted Tim Tebow to ever be.

Taysom Hill is the version 2.0 of Tim Tebow.

He's better at running the football. He's a more accurate accurate passer He's more Christian than him because he's a Mormon Which is like boom I'm even stepping up on your virginity I think that Taysom Hill is going to He's going to make a lot of people in Denver Long for the days of Tim Tebow Yeah, I really think that John Elway's going to look at that And just be like, I want that.
I'll give him everything. Maybe kidnap him.

Chiefs-Bucks is going to be an awesome game. I have a stat for everyone who's trying to bet this game.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers first half overs are 21-4-1 since last year. Okay.
First half overs. I'm going to take the Bucks plus three.
I'm going to take the Chiefs. Because the site I'm looking at has 90% of the public on the Chiefs.
I don't know whether or not to tell us that. It's too early in the week.
It's early in the week, and everyone is remembering what they saw last night. No, that's not bad, though.
I feel like I've seen the Bucs win 100 games this year in the 4 o'clock hour. That's just what they do.
They just win afternoon games. Not at night.
And then finally, Bears. Andy Reid after Thanksgiving, too.
Yeah, true. He's going to have some discomfort abdominally.
Bears, Packers, I don't. You said a couple days ago that the Bears are going to win this game.
Now, you can't backtrack on that in a span of 48 hours. I'll get up for it.
I'll think they're going to win this game when I wake up on Sunday morning. I just, it's very sad and very apropos of the state of the Chicago Bears offense that they have released a line and we don't know who the Bears quarterback is.
It could literally be Nick Foles, Mitch Trubisky, or Tyler Bray, and Vegas is like, they all suck. What happened to Deshaun Kizer? I saw it.
Back to the squad. Anytime your team brings in Deshaun Kizer for a workout, that's a good sign that you should just kill yourself.
Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.
It's bad. Everything sucks.
Don't actually do that. It's the holidays.
Don't actually do that. Yeah, but that's...
How sad is that, though? It was Deshaun Kizer. But how sad is that that those three quarterbacks are like yep all same all suck yeah i mean is there any like little part of the back of your brain that's like what does castle order look like i'm just saying i don't root for injuries and that's all i'm gonna say okay i agree with you i also don't root for injuries mcclellan is somewhere that wants to wants to on the pads, he's more than welcome to come and put on the pads.
Don't root for injuries. On the record, I do not root for injuries.
Did I say anything bad there? We have to watch the fucking Chicago Bears in primetime again. It's so painful.
No one wants to see it. You don't even want to see it.
No, dude. I want them to play.
It's so embarrassing for me. I wish their games were at fucking 3 in the morning.
honestly i wish on pay-per-view yeah choose to opt in to subject yourself i wish that you would wake up on sunday morning like oh the bears played already they haven't scored okay cool bye that's it that's it um they're just they're such a bad bad team bad franchise fuck man it sucks win on Sunday, though. All right.
Before we do, guys, on chicks and send you off to Thanksgiving, fuck you, your boss right now who's listening to this. So here we go.
So turn it up. Walk on by.
It is Friday, November 27th. 7th? And everybody with a good family man of a boss or family woman of a boss is enjoying time with their loved ones not at fucking work yeah if your boss is such a fucking prick we're in the middle of a pandemic and your fucking boss was like hey I going to make everyone come in on Friday after Thanksgiving.

How about 2020 sucks so bad?

Give the people one day off, you motherfucking piece of shit boss. You know what sucks is that your boss is so incompetent

that they need their employees to come in to save their ass

and bail them out for not hitting their numbers in all of 2020,

and they choose to make you do that on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

Yes.

That's just disgraceful.

You know what it is?

It's un-American.

Yeah.

So, hey, buddy, you.

Yeah, yeah, we're talking to you.

We're literally talking to you.

You're the boss.

Suck my dick.

Go fuck yourself.

All right, extra credit for any AWLs who send us a video of them actually playing it for their boss.

Maybe their boss is also an AWL.

Yeah. That would be great.
That would be funny. If you're an AWL, why aren't you giving your employees off? Yeah.
But if you're an AWL who's just trying to, you know, maybe you're- Maybe you're one of the cool bosses. Yeah.
Maybe you're a Rockefeller who's just really trying to squeeze the last dollar out of the capitalism. Credit to you, dude.
That's actually a good move. And also sponsor part of my take.
Yeah. On the low, good move.
But also, let's listen to us motherfucking. Now, all employees, turn your phones off real quick.
Bosses only that are making your employees work. Give us some money.
Buy some merch. Yeah, that actually was a boss move to make those idiots work.
Big Cat, you know what makes an awesome Christmas present? It's just buying a shitload of part of my take merch and then giving those Christmas presents. True.
Black Friday. Black Friday.
Yep. Also, being a boss is Also being a Boston school.
Way to be good at business. What's that thing that Pope does to like excommunicate these pictures of big asses? Threaten to excommunicate from the AWLs.
Perfect booties. Heart.
Yeah. Perfect booties.
How about the NBA players meeting with the Pope? Yeah. Teaching them how to learn all the tricks and trades of ghost likes on Instagram.
You gotta go 0 dark 30. You gotta have a Finstagram account.
23. Sliding the DMs on that.
All right, let's finish up. We got some guys on chicks.
Hey, cat, comment, hunk, and William. I have been dating this guy for a couple months, and after a date, we were hooking up in his car.
Nice. I ended up blowing him, but didn didn't want to finish i didn't want him to finish in my mouth he said he was in pain because he almost came but didn't and i wanted no part of it so we proceeded to self-complete in a grocery bag while i sat there silently is this normal are blue balls of things guy stuff yeah jacking off into a piggly wiggly bag.
Whomst among us has not had to do that?

Yes.

I'm not even driving either, just sitting there.

I hope he was driving and was like jacking off into a Walmart bag.

While driving.

It's an oversized condom.

If you don't do it, it falls off.

So, yeah, you have to.

Yeah.

It's nice.

Would big cat fuck a turkey?

Yes.

That's a good question from not a chick. Billy.
is an animal yeah billy you probably would um no i don't think so i got a question this is a deep dive inside pft's mysteries brains why don't we eat turkey eggs are there turkey eggs oh yeah they lay eggs and they're bigger than normal eggs it's the perfect size for like one breakfast would be one turkey egg. They taste a little gamey.
So they taste... I like to let the meat talk.
I know when you make something. They have a different consistency.
Yeah, you made that up. Okay, that's fine.
They are good layers. What do you mean? They're not able to produce as much eggs.
I still want to eat turkey eggs. Hey Thick Daddy Hey Thick Daddy Thick Daddy Cat, Baby Honk, Leroy's best friend, and Jake.
Long-time listener, first-time concern for my boyfriend. He recently got a new robot vacuum and continues to make obscene gestures and remarks regarding her ability to clean.
My first concern was when he named it Red Velvet, his obsession over his favorite stripper name, and continued to say, Oh, you're a dirty girl, aren't you you as it started to clean up our apartment for the first time after a couple of days of it cleaning our place he stated he started to take care of it and clean it every day because her suck holes are so small and cute when they'll get dogged with the smallest load he continuously says oh baby you're so cute when you clean up that dust and you suck so well after hearing billy's talks about sub-adult hens and wanting to have sex with different animals i've gained concern that my boyfriend is just as weird as him and wants to have robot sex with our vacuum i keep a positive mind that he wouldn't want to have sex with vacuum but not once has he talked this dirty to me i don't want to break up with him over this but i do not know how to handle his attention about how weird uncomfortable and honestly a little jealous this makes me feel. It sounds like it looks a lot like a Legionnaire Stadium, in which case I completely understand the fascination.
Just let the guy do what he needs to do. What are you going to say, Billy? This guy's screwed because in 100 years when robots become autonomous and start getting rights, then they're going to look back to that moment and he's going to get fucked.
Yeah yeah that's what i would say like we should be super nice to every robot after they'll figure it out because they'll remember they're watching literally they are reckoning yes shout out to the robots by the way i think that uh there's a conspiracy theory out there for us to not eat turkey eggs because i'm reading i pulled up a website and it's like they have like seven reasons which feels a little bit too much so it's like i'm thick here yeah 16 to 17 pounds is a turkey egg that's a big fucking egg uh so it's like too big uh there's no chance like the shells are really really hard bowling ball that's what that's what i said average size of a turkey oh wait no no that's a turkey yeah that's a full turkey uh i was wrong on that the uh they only have 100 eggs a year which of a turkey. Wait, no, no, no.
That's a turkey. Yeah, that's a full turkey.
I was wrong on that. They only have 100 eggs a year, which is a third of how many chicken eggs.
They also sit on their eggs a lot longer. So, like, they don't.
It's bread for chickens to just poop their eggs out and walk away. Yeah.
Turkeys will fucking be territorial about their eggs. Okay.
They'll sit on those motherfuckers. It sounds to me like the most dangerous game.
Like, it probably tastes better because it's so hard to get them. Right.
They're rare. And then, let's see.
They're like, they are right about, he's right, Billy's right about like the consistency and the weirdness of it. It's a little different.
And then there's also feed concerns. So like, what the turkey eats isn't cleared by the USDA.
So you can eat the turkey itself but not the egg don't like i said this guy's laying on thick yeah it sounds like this is was that written by a turkey by a turkey yes by a big turkey you know what it is they use obama yeah no they actually use so much to like fatten the turkeys up so they get big uh breasts yeah and a lot of more meat those sort of chemicals don't go through the cycle and then they end up in the egg and those chemicals aren't legal for us to eat. I actually was reading about this thing that they use to bulk up pigs because it might be a bodybuilding agent.
And it's illegal in all the other countries except the United States. Also, meat, it's an economy's thing where turkey eggs are bigger so it takes up more space like the entire operation takes up more space they lay obviously less eggs over the year and then meat from a ground turkey bird is much more valuable than an extra large friday right so to me it just sounds like a problem of nobody's figured out how to how to get the eggs and make money off of it well because they don't lay enough.
They maybe lay 300 a year, maybe, but they're like, hey, let's just keep making turkeys and killing those things. Now I really want to eat turkey eggs because of everything this website has told me.
It sounds rare. It sounds dangerous.
It sounds like it's tough to get. It sounds like they've probably got more protein in them, Billy, because of the thickness of them, the gaminess.
Ractopamine.

Ractopamine. Okay.
Dangerous compound.

Turkey eggs were on the omelets.

Turkey egg omelets were on the menu of the famous Delmonico's Restaurant in New York

until the late 1800s.

We should be eating turkey eggs.

Wow. But, Billy, you're right.
Turkeys can't fuck

because their breasts are too big.

They have only artificial insemination?

Yeah. Wow.

They're built different. They're virgins.
They're little nerd birds. All right, what else we got? Sorry, I just went down a really deep hole.
No, that's fascinating. Just a turkey egg.
Yeah, a turkey egg would cost like two or three dollars a pop, which is obviously way too expensive for it. Ostrich eggs.
Yeah? Those actually bang. Mm-hmm.
Cadbury big kitty hank and mr under 35 my boyfriend moved in with me and my family last may our bedroom is right next to the laundry room and every time my mom goes in there to do laundry he wants to have sex is it a thing for guys to want to have sex one when it's easy to get caught and two when their girlfriend's mom is around i feel like he gets off on my mom's presence and that's low-key weird if you ask me i think he wants to fuck your mom i think he wants to get caught i know he wants i think he's been yeah he's been uh watching the the front page of you just he's been he's been liking ted cruz's tweets too much there's a whole generation of young males out there that i feel like like are too much into the stepfather, stepdaughter, stepmother, that whole environment. Agreed.
Agreed. Agreed.
Big time agreed. Alright, is that our show? That is our show.
So we are going to be off on Friday. We are going to be back, as always, on Monday for Sunday, you know, for football, week 12.
And everyone have a great Thanksgiving. Anything else? Anything else? Oh, numbers.
869. 18.
Happy Thanksgiving. 888? To all of you guys.
I don't think that's plugged in, Big Cat. 81.
86. 81.
Here we go. 86.
Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
72. God damn it.
This game sucks, man. We suck.
Love you guys. First timer.
Denmark was going to kill all their minks because it might make a coronavirus vaccine not work because minks can also catch coronavirus. And then the secretary of whatever thing, they fired him.
He stepped down because he was accused of killing all the minks. And it was a whole big thing.
Anyway, if they did do that. Is this an animal fact or a Denmark fact? You told me to research this last time.
Can you still get a mink coat? Well, no, I was thinking if they did it, mink coats would be super cheap.

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