NFL Week 11 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Deion Sanders and CFB Talk

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Speaker 4 On today's part of my take,

Speaker 4 we have week 11 of the NFL.

Speaker 4 Weird week moving day. PFT already said it.
Awesome. We're doing this after we tape that, but moving day.
It's moving day. Credit to you.
Moving day.

Speaker 4 We have Deion Sanders. We have Football Guy of the Week.
We have a little college football talk. We got Who's Back of the Week.
We have everything.

Speaker 4 Every single game recapped, including the Steelers, Jaguars, which I forgot to write down. But we have it all.
We have it all. Carson Wentz, is he?

Speaker 4 Is he?

Speaker 5 Is he? What is he?

Speaker 4 What is he? Bust?

Speaker 4 Nothing. So we have it all.
Everything here.

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Speaker 4 We start in Baltimore where it was tough sledding for Lamar Jack Sonny Bono, who had trouble sharing the rock and couldn't quite dodge Tenna Tree going down the Tanna Hill.

Speaker 4 Oof, the Ravens defense featured Tyus Bowser's castle with an interception, and Princess Peach became a queen as Patrick led the team in tackles, only to be outdone by Derrick Henry, who ran the ball like Mark Inger made a magic mushroom.

Speaker 4 They took out the Rumble pack after the game as there was no handshake at midfield, and the Titans go one-up in the AFC South, beating the Ravens in OT 30-24.

Speaker 4 In Rainey, Cleveland, where Carson Wentz was playing drunk, throwing up Jalen Ragerbaums. But the Eagles aren't getting another big tie as Camaro Hodge had a big game in the air for the Browns.

Speaker 4 Austin, who per my last email, and the Browns' offense was looking forward, forward, forward all day as they metriculated the ball downfield.

Speaker 4 Massal Kiss Eagles fans are in a lot of pain, but want more hurts going forward. Browns 22.
Eagles suffocate.

Speaker 4 In Duvall, where the Jaguars took a commanding 3-0 lead, only to have Jake Isaac Lewton crash to the earth as four apples were picked from the tree by the Steelers' defense.

Speaker 4 BuzzFeed Benny Snell got caught making a great play, jerism, and Canadian chase play clip chase Chase Claypool said, sorry, looks like I'm going to score here.

Speaker 4 Some of those duh-duh-duzz, you know, the ones that got the pop. He gives you a nice pop.
You get him over the Canadian border, the pop. You get him, the duh-duh-duzz.

Speaker 4 catching more than just eight balls deonte dustin johnson has mastered the wide receiver position looking like a guy who has dipped into the great ones gene pool and the steelers are going home with a perfect 10 27 to 3.

Speaker 4 what

Speaker 4 talking about polina in a touching tribute to my good friend jfk The Texans lowered their convertible roof on November 22nd, exposing the grassy knoll and welcoming a bunch of men from Massachusetts.

Speaker 4 Anyone got got their eyes on Ted Cruz's dad as there was a Rex Burke head exploding back and to the left?

Speaker 4 KK Cootie Harvey Oswald was posted up in the Texans playbook depository and New England's history of parades won't be continuing as a CJ precise shot let to Duke Lyndon B. Jackson take over.

Speaker 4 Too soon, boom. Tune in for a full HD recap on Darren Revelle Fell's Twitter as Patriots got their once-owned asses kicked.
The Texans 27, the Patriots 20.

Speaker 4 They got that booty kicked in the nation's capital where Antonio Carmarty Gibson had made a vast deference and bawled out, Joe B, Joe B, Joe B, Joe B,

Speaker 4 I'm begging you, please don't take my man. As they had to dolly Carton Burrow off the field in the third quarter, going from Burrow to Finley, 9-5 is a hard way to make a T.
Higgins.

Speaker 4 Fat Randy Bullock hit a couple voter suppression polls, otherwise known as the Washington Post. Post, and the Washington football team is back in playoff concatching, winning 20-9.

Speaker 4 I can't speak. What? I'm old Greg.

Speaker 4 In Indianapolis, where Philip Austin Rivers got nicked up and is going to MSG, no disrespect to any Lacey's China food. Indy's midnight runners said, come on, Naheem.
Oh, I swear what he means.

Speaker 4 At this moment, your running means everything.

Speaker 4 Rodrigo Blanken shipping up to Boston was hitting field goals like drop kicks, and he hits the game winner to steal it for the Colts. Colts 34, the Packers 31.

Speaker 4 In Minnesota, where Dallas raced out to an early lead with help from CeeDee Gonzalez-Lamb. And speaking of racing fast, Dalvin Diesel Cook ran furiously through the Cowboys defense for 115 yards.

Speaker 4 Adam Fielenny Kravitz flew away from the Cowboys DBs, and Vikings fans want to get away from their existence as Minnesota drops a must-win to the hapless Cowboys. Do the dance, Skip! 31-28

Speaker 4 Standing on a corner, Jameis Swiftson down in Nola. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 4 It's Taysom Hill, my lord, with a dough soak warm like crablet after robbery.

Speaker 4 Come on, Taysom. Let Jameis play

Speaker 4 some.

Speaker 4 Just don't let him round any snatch. He's not Jason Taytham.
Taytham.

Speaker 4 Saints go marching 24-9.

Speaker 4 We finish in Las Vegas where we have Patrick Mahomes on the show from the sideline after his incredible late game touchdown, Patrick. That was great being out here in Cincinnati, big cat.

Speaker 4 It's incredible. That stadium is so fuckable, I call it the Woomba.
Man, if I was a single guy, I'd be on like Donkey Kong. Coach Reed didn't like them doing laps around the stadium.

Speaker 4 Well, Coach Andy's going to have us taking laps around the wind buffet. Hey, Andy, bring your own sleeve card.
Hey, did you see Derek Carr's face?

Speaker 4 He was looking like he was going to be sitting in his car, listening to Discurve's acoustic album and cried into his mountain dew after the game. Man, I called that guy Jared Goff.

Speaker 4 What a great game! Chiefs 31!

Speaker 4 Rioters 31!

Speaker 4 Okay, week 11 in the books.

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Speaker 4 All right, week 11 in the books, Sunday Night Football. We will start with Derek Carr.
Is he elite? Well, yeah, he was actually awesome, but they got Mahomed.

Speaker 5 Derek Carr, he played a surprisingly competent game, like a really good game, actually.

Speaker 4 No, I actually think Derek Carr might just

Speaker 5 take in the next step.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's got it the eight-year bump, seven-year bump. There is definitely

Speaker 4 like an old Derek Carr thing that we have in our brain that we have to move past and be like, he's actually just good.

Speaker 5 Same thing. Yeah, it's like me and Tannehill.

Speaker 5 He's good. I know that he's good, but it's tough to shake the preconceived notion.

Speaker 4 He's just a good quarterback. Unfortunately, the other quarterback is

Speaker 4 like on the way to being one of the greatest of all time,

Speaker 4 which I know sounds crazy to say, but it really isn't if you watch Mahomes play. And that, this is like

Speaker 4 the next step with Mahomes,

Speaker 4 won the MVP, won the Super Bowl MVP, is incredible, all-time talent, but now it's just expecting it. You just expect it.
Like when the Raiders scored, too much time on the clock.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're like, okay.

Speaker 5 There's like a minute and 40 seconds. Way too much time.

Speaker 4 You're like, bare minimum, they get a chip-shot field goal because something weird happened where someone dropped the ball.

Speaker 4 And most likely scenario, they score a touchdown with ease, which is exactly what happened.

Speaker 5 If Patrick Mahomes has a minute and two timeouts on the clock, that's still too much time.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing: here's what I learned from this game. This is now two times, so the Raiders went to Kansas City and beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 They now have, they played them to the last minute and a half. The Raiders are, I would say, the team that the Chiefs don't want to face in the playoffs.
And

Speaker 4 they feel like a team that has enough going for them that they could make some. I'm putting them in my make some noise.

Speaker 4 I'm putting in them, like you want to talk about the Titans last year going to the AFC Championship game. I could see

Speaker 4 the Raiders making a similar run this year.

Speaker 5 They're kind of built for the playoffs a little bit, and John Gruden is doing a great job coaching the team.

Speaker 5 John Gruden, it's time for us to forget about all the fun that we've made of John Gruden because he's actually like a very good head coach. Is he worth 10 years, $100 million? I don't know.

Speaker 5 You can make that call, but was John Gruden in his bag tonight?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and he had the savviest move I've ever seen because you can't beat the Chiefs with field goals. The Raiders were going down the field,

Speaker 4 and they were going down with the field with ease in the first quarter. Second quarter, they get down to the one-yard line, they get stopped, third and goal, fourth and goal on the one.

Speaker 4 Wow, John Gruden are you about to kick a field goal? You fucking pussy. You can't beat the Chiefs with field goals.

Speaker 4 He gets a 15-yard penalty for screaming at the ref, so then it totally takes it out of his own hands, and we can't make fun of John Gruden.

Speaker 5 This was a great game for just hearing people talk on the sidelines and on the field.

Speaker 5 Derek Carr has a shockingly masculine voice and you could hear all the audibles that he was calling like the James Harden call.

Speaker 4 I saw, so did you see the tweet that someone thinks they deciphered it?

Speaker 5 James Harden, it was ISO.

Speaker 4 It was going to a strip club and calling it quits. The way it's not the playoffs, so still playing well.

Speaker 4 No, he was allegedly, every time he called out a left-handed basketball player, it was checking to a run to the left. Oh shit.
Yeah. That's pretty good.

Speaker 5 You're going to have to figure out that's pretty easy to figure out.

Speaker 4 But yeah, John Gruen. Well, no, because you could start just throwing...
Like, what if they were like Luke Kennard?

Speaker 5 Oh, shit. Yeah,

Speaker 4 you know what I mean? They could just throw out random names

Speaker 4 and be like, well, you better know your basketball knowledge.

Speaker 5 I also love every pass that Aguilar catches. It just inspires everybody who's from Philadelphia to be like, what the fuck, man? You have hands? Yeah.
What's going on with this? This is not fair.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I think John Gruyn was in his bag. I don't know what it means, but he was deep in his bag.
He coached as good a game against the Chiefs as I think you can do pretty much.

Speaker 5 You can't stop the Chiefs. No, you can't.
You can't. He held them to essentially, you know, it could have been a win for the Raiders.

Speaker 5 If the Chiefs had been smart about it, they would have let them score at the goal line instead of running even more time off the clock.

Speaker 5 And then John Gruden would have outsmarted himself and then maybe had an extra like 45 seconds out of sheer luck that he would have ended up with with Derek Carr.

Speaker 5 That's almost like what you have to do now with the Chiefs is you have to account for a complete new possession at the end of the game if they're letting you score.

Speaker 5 Yes, we will let you let us score so that we can get the ball back and be able to drive down the field at the very end of the game.

Speaker 4 Just keep letting each other score. I think I did that with Doug's.
That's what you need. But I just kept on letting, like, all I need is 25 seconds.
Right. That's all I need.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Chris Collinsworth said that Derek Carr is playing.

Speaker 4 We see Derek Carr's body, but it's John Gruton's brain in his head.

Speaker 5 Oh, I love that. Yeah.
So So wait, what's in John Grun's head? Derek Carr's body?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I think it ⁇ the Freaky Friday.

Speaker 5 I think John Gruden's bag just has like a Corona in his bag. And then a picture of his wife's tits that he shows to everybody the first time he meets them.
Maybe a sick Hooters calendar.

Speaker 5 Check this out, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I am now addicted, by the way, because the let them score.

Speaker 4 I was screaming that at the TV. I'm not going to tweet that anymore because I can't wait till someone gets a stop and I can say, see, that's not why you don't let them score.

Speaker 5 You play to win the game.

Speaker 4 I'm waiting for that. That's going to be a great feeling.

Speaker 5 That'll be really nice.

Speaker 4 That's going to happen because let them, I feel like, let them score having a moment.

Speaker 5 It is having a moment.

Speaker 4 I think it is with Todd Gurley and like let them score having a little bit of a moment.

Speaker 5 It's also a test on your defense. Like if you tell your defense to let them score and they don't let them score, that's how you know that you've got football players back.

Speaker 4 True, that's a good point. So, yeah,

Speaker 4 this is one of those weird losses for the Raiders, even though they're in a very, very spirited playoff race where you can't lose games. I feel like you walk away from that being like,

Speaker 4 no moral losses, but damn, like, that's the Super Bowl-winning Chiefs, and we went toe-to-toe with them after we beat them earlier in the season. We're a good fucking football team.

Speaker 5 I'm also addicted to the trailing camera shots that show a field that grows outside being wheeled inside.

Speaker 5 That to me is almost as cool as a stadium construction montage where they do a time-lapse. When they do that in Arizona and they show the field being wheeled inside, it's incredible.

Speaker 5 They have that in Las Vegas, where they've actually, like, dug into the side of, like, a giant sandstone mountain or whatever is out there. And that's where the field lives during the week.

Speaker 5 And I'm sure that Mark Davis just kind of sits on midfield in a lawn chair and just suns himself like a lizard until it's actually game day.

Speaker 4 I'm a little nervous about the Raiders, actually, now that I'm looking at this, because we just complimented them. They're a good football team.

Speaker 4 They have at the Falcons and at the Jets the next two weeks. Yep.
I actually, if I'm a Raiders fan,

Speaker 4 I'd rather them play really good teams because

Speaker 4 that would really suck if they lost to one of those two teams. It would.
They should beat both of those teams very easily.

Speaker 4 And wouldn't it be just so Raider to lose to one of those teams and be like, well, we really screwed the pooch here.

Speaker 5 Then they've got the Chargers at home coming up. Yeah.
They've got

Speaker 4 Dolphins who are good.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Dolphins are good.

Speaker 4 Get to them and then finish with the Broncos.

Speaker 5 I think they're definitely a team that you don't want to play in the playoffs. You're right.
Yes, you're right, because they play man football. Man football.
They play belly-to-belly. Man.
Smash map.

Speaker 5 And we had a Jason Witten sighting tonight. How about that? The old slot machine still works.

Speaker 4 He's there. He's there.

Speaker 4 All right. So that was game one.
Let's do the rest of week 11. A weird week.
Up and down week. Weird week.
Weird week.

Speaker 4 Well, there was, when I say weird, I mean there was just a bunch of unders that hit in the first slate. Right.
So it was like kind of bad football.

Speaker 5 This was moving day in the NFL.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Ooh, I like that.
All right. Speaking of moving day, let's start with the Eagles and the Browns.
Browns 22, Eagles 17. God is the Browns offensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 It's happened, I think, three weeks in a row now where it's just been terrible weather in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 They call it Dracula weather. Dracula weather.
I saw one of the Cleveland Browns writers referred to it as like a three-peat of Dracula weather that's helped the Browns out.

Speaker 4 And it has essentially kept the Browns with their identity. The Browns have an identity.
It is run run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, maybe every now and then pass the ball and play action.

Speaker 4 But Baker Mayfield threw the ball 22 times. They ran the ball 40 times.
So

Speaker 4 let's say nice things about the Browns first, and then we'll get to the dumpster fire that is the Eagles. So the Browns have an identity.

Speaker 4 Kevin Stefanski, I think, is on the shortlist for Coach of the Year.

Speaker 4 It's probably going to be Mike Tomlin to lose, but you should at least mention him because the Browns are sitting here with their best record, I think, since 2007 or something.

Speaker 4 They're going to maybe go to the playoffs for the first time in like 30 years or 20 years.

Speaker 4 It's looking good for Cleveland. It's looking pretty good, yeah.

Speaker 5 And I think Nick Chubb is a fucking monster, and no one wants to tackle him. Especially, you know how we were talking the other week? Seeing a defensive lineman not wearing gloves is terrifying.
Yep.

Speaker 5 I think you were talking about a Saints player. Yep.
Saints defensive end.

Speaker 4 It's just so dangerous. It's like,

Speaker 4 it's the idea, and it makes no sense, but when you, like, if you hear something in the middle of the night and you have to go to your front door, you got to make sure you put your pants and a shirt on.

Speaker 4 Because if you were going to get stabbed or shot, the shirt would slow it down. The bullets slow down.
A little bit.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you would think so.

Speaker 4 It makes no sense, but it totally makes no sense.

Speaker 5 But also, I remember one time I was sneaking into my friend Armando's house, and his dad came downstairs just wearing tidy whiteys, and that was terrifying. So you could have had him.

Speaker 5 I was like, that dude is. No, but I thought that dude is crazy.
You could have had him. Because he didn't stop to think about putting a shirt on or some pants on.
That's what Nick Chubb said.

Speaker 4 Tiny Twister would have put him to his knees.

Speaker 5 Nick Chubb, not wearing gloves as a running back, is like an offensive lineman not wearing sleeves when it's cold outside, especially when it's Dracula weather in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 He's got like the fingertape on. That's terrifying to look at.
And he was out there like punching people in the face on stiff arms with no gloves on. He's insane.

Speaker 4 I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 I get it for a defensive lineman where you're like, I'm just trying to intimidate everyone. But if you're holding the ball, gloves, glove technology is incredible.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, it's like Jack Nicholas's grandson, Nick O'Leary. He used to not wear gloves as a tight end, and that was crazy, too.
But yeah, sticky

Speaker 4 of the glove technology.

Speaker 5 Chubb has just naturally sticky hands, I think. What's up, Billy? I once saw Nick O'Leary have a fumble, and if he had gloves on, he totally wouldn't have fumbled.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 4 But if he fumbled gloves, he wouldn't have gotten drafted aside. That's a good point, though, Billy, because it is,

Speaker 4 even if you think you have better ball control without gloves on.

Speaker 4 The minute that you take off the gloves and start running around, if you fumble, it will immediately be, well, you should have been wearing gloves.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but if you're Phillip Rivers and you're a quarterback and you're not wearing gloves, you get to lick your hand like three times every single play before. Not COVID safe.

Speaker 5 Not COVID safe in this era, but shout out to the Browns.

Speaker 4 Miles Garrett not even playing and they did this, which I think everyone thought, ooh, Miles Garrett's pretty much their, you know, it is their best defensive player, but also maybe their best player, period, out with COVID.

Speaker 4 And you thought, oh, maybe the Eagles can have the Browns. I did, and I was wrong.

Speaker 5 Here's a fun stat. The Browns have now defeated every single team in the 21st century.
There we go. So I don't know what other teams have done it.

Speaker 5 They've collected all the infinity stones or the gauntlet or whatever it is. It's 20 years.
The Browns finally did it. Congratulations.

Speaker 5 My Mike Greenberg dumb rule suggestion, reared his ugly head in this game, safety should be worth five points. But you don't get the ball back.
You should kick off after you get a safety.

Speaker 5 But it should not be worth two. It's so hard to get a safety on defense.

Speaker 5 I'm not talking about like a rinky-dink, like kick return where you go out, then you go back in, or an interception return where you go out and you go back in.

Speaker 5 If you actually like hit a running back or a quarterback in the end zone and cleanly take them down, five points. points.

Speaker 4 See, I like it because it's like a $2 bill. It's so rare and the number makes no sense.

Speaker 4 And also, there's something about a safety that just, no matter when it happens, it will absolutely fuck up the point spread. Yes.
Because point spreads are just not meant for safety.

Speaker 5 My brain can't, it takes a good like 15 minutes for my brain to catch up to it too.

Speaker 4 I had the Eagles plus three and a half and the safety happened. I was like, it's over.

Speaker 4 Because you just can't, it's like extra points are the cousin of the safeties when it comes to fucking up up point spreads, where if an extra point gets missed, you're like, once you get off of schedule, where like the game can be tied, and then the game can be, some team goes up by three or seven, you're just fucked.

Speaker 5 I also think that the Browns lead the league in having terrible players on their defense that end up making game-winning plays. So Sendeho was that way a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 5 He made a huge play, and then today, Takitaki, who all the Browns fans hate, had a pick six. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 5 that was like the play of the game, right?

Speaker 4 That's a perfect segue because Takitaki, Taki, credit to you for the pick six, but holy shit, Carson Wentz is so bad at playing quarterback. And unfortunately, that is his job.

Speaker 5 Leads the league in interceptions. He should be a tight end.
Are we ready to call Carson Wentz a bust?

Speaker 4 I don't know what you do because you gave him all this money. And the best thing that's ever happened to Carson Wentz is I actually think this now that like them winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Even though he didn't do it, it was Nick Foles. And then Philly, and then the Eagles picking Carson Wentz, which I,

Speaker 4 from what I've seen from Nick Foles, I actually think it's a not the wrong decision. But so Carson Wentz is the quarterback.

Speaker 4 You have Philly Eagles fans have at least, you know, how they always talk about like a grace period after a Super Bowl or any type of championship, five-year grace period, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 Eagles fans did probably give about a one-year grace period.

Speaker 5 Which is about a year longer than I thought that would be.

Speaker 4 Right. So Carson Wentz got about a year.
He got hurt that year. Nick Foles, they lost in that game in the Superdome.
But

Speaker 4 he also benefits from the Eagles being the number one injured team every single year. Now, I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 4 It's just that we know a bunch of Eagles fans that tell us about their injuries all the time. But Carson Wentz,

Speaker 4 I think this is, I think we're finally at the end of the road where even Eagles fans who are saying, well, everyone's injured have finally thrown up their hands and be like, this guy might just suck.

Speaker 5 I think another problem with Carson Wentz is the worse that he plays, the more of his body he puts into every play.

Speaker 5 I have not seen a Carson Wentz play where he takes like a calm little three, five step drop, stands, takes one step, and like just fires a nice little soft intermediate route.

Speaker 5 He just, if it's a short pass, he's going to put his entire body into it. Probably come off of both feet at some point during the play.

Speaker 4 It's also,

Speaker 4 something about Carson Wentz, he

Speaker 4 like reads a defense to a comically deliberate level where it's like his face is just moo. You know what it's like?

Speaker 4 Remember when Madden did the cone technology and everyone's like, fuck this, this is terrible. But that one year where I was like, what the hell is going on? We have to do a cone passing now?

Speaker 4 He looks like if you walked in on me fake reading a book, because like I, you know, we'll open up a book every now and then and be like, you know, with my finger, oh, I'm reading this book.

Speaker 4 That's what he looks like when he's trying to read a defense. All right, all right, all right, nope, nope, nope, all right, sack, nope, nope, nope, interception.

Speaker 4 It's just, it all is so, it's nothing is fluid.

Speaker 5 He's like an owl.

Speaker 5 So he has to turn his entire head to look at. And to his credit, he's got a very flexible neck.

Speaker 5 Like his head can turn almost all the way around his body, but he's got the worst peripheral vision of all time. Yeah.
I don't think his eyes move. I think that's probably.

Speaker 5 I think that Carson Wentz, someone check his eye muscles because I don't think that his pupils can go back and forth.

Speaker 4 So what do they do?

Speaker 5 Get him surgery?

Speaker 4 No, I mean, I asked one of his eyes out. This is the first time that I think that it's totally fair to say, do the Eagles move on from Carson Wentz? Like, it's not so crazy.

Speaker 4 I've held on. I've thought the Eagles were going to turn around.
This was a game, if you look at their schedule, they kind of had to win this game. And, man, does he suck?

Speaker 5 I think that he is, here's the take. He right now is a poor man's Taysom Hill.

Speaker 4 I like that. So it kind of looks similar.
Taysom Hill, yeah, they move similarly.

Speaker 5 Taysom knows his limitations, I think.

Speaker 5 Carson, if Carson played quarterback like a fullback or a running back playing quarterback, I actually think he'd be better because he is still athletic and he can still run forward for four or five yards almost every play if he wants to.

Speaker 4 He's someone I would love to to just see on the Chiefs for one game because he would still suck, but then we could put to bed finally like, oh, his receivers suck. Oh, his receivers drop everything.

Speaker 4 Oh, this sucks. This sucks.
Like, Carson Wentz has gotten a long list of it's not his fault. Yeah.
And I think maybe it's some of it's his fault. And it's not all his fault.
I'm not going to.

Speaker 4 Quarterbacking is hard, and there are a lot of moving parts. But at some point, you have to be like, dude, you might just suck.

Speaker 5 I haven't heard that many people from Philly demand Jalen Hurts yet, though.

Speaker 4 Well, he might not be good, too. He might not be good either.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's a good point. But I'll put it this way.
If you had, let's say that he was Patrick Mahomes' backup. Mahomes went down in the middle of a game like with a knee injury like he did last year.

Speaker 5 Carson Wentz comes in. I think that Carson Wentz would be a shitty backup quarterback.

Speaker 5 I think that Carson, he has to be a starter in order to get the most out of him because if he comes in as a backup, if you think that he is putting his entire body into every single throw right now, imagine Carson Wentz with something to prove coming in as a backup, trying to earn that next contract.

Speaker 4 Now, with all that said, I would absolutely take him on the Bears because I think he'd probably be the best quarterback in franchise history.

Speaker 4 But yeah, maybe that's what I'll start doing, by the way, is just like, you know, pump and dump stocks. Just try to lower every quarterback.
Be like, you know, should probably think about trading him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Sam Darnold probably should think about trading him.

Speaker 5 The crazy thing is also, like, next week, if he came out and threw for 400 yards, I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 4 No, of course not. That's kind of the thing with Carson Wentz.
You're always waiting for that. And it just, this season, it just hasn't happened.
So, the Browns, seven and three,

Speaker 4 huge, huge win, especially coupled with the Ravens loss. They get the Jaguars next.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think the Browns are going to make the playoffs. I don't want to say that.
You know what? I'm not going to say it because I don't want to jinx it for Browns fans. Let's wait and see.

Speaker 5 They look like they're going to make the playoffs right now. They've got the Jaguars, but let's not say it.
And then at the Titans.

Speaker 4 Let's not say it. We're not going to say it.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to say it. Then they host the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Goodwin Browns. Who they could beat.

Speaker 5 Then the Giants.

Speaker 5 Then the Jets.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Goodwin Browns. All right.

Speaker 5 Browns are going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Browns are going to make the playoffs. Falcons, Saints.

Speaker 4 Sean Payton probably made the right choice. It kills me to say it, but he made the right choice.
Taysom Hill was not. He was good.
He actually was good, and he's hard to

Speaker 4 defend against because he is a fucking beast when he's running it. Yeah.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 I want to see Jameis. I really wanted to see Jameis.
And fuck Drew Brees, man. He keeps breaking.
He's breaking another rib right now.

Speaker 5 He's broke another rib.

Speaker 4 He just keeps adding ribs just so that I can keep getting tagged in tweets. Drew Brees has broken every rib in his entire body, and he's going back for sex.
He's got 12 broken ribs right now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, it's nuts, but you're in good company with Tony Romo. Like Tony Romo to Dak Prescott saying you got to hope that's a cramp is like you to Drew Brees.

Speaker 5 We all make mistakes. Drew Brees,

Speaker 5 I want to see his x-ray, Adam Schaffer. If you can get to work on that, I will forgive your past HIPAA violations.

Speaker 4 It just looks like shattered glass.

Speaker 5 Yes, I just want to see what his sternum looks like. And if he does have 11 ribs,

Speaker 5 is it even possible for him to be alive right now?

Speaker 4 He can definitely suck his own dick right now. Yeah, Drew Brees.
Without a doubt.

Speaker 5 You've got to go to town on your own hog. You got to take advantage of the situation.

Speaker 4 I guess that will be the nice replacement for not breaking another record on Monday night football in a couple weeks.

Speaker 5 Being able to suck your own dick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's kind of the same.

Speaker 5 Yeah, better, yeah, better you than Sean Payton this time. But Drew Brees is, he's going to be out for a good amount of time.
We should give Jameis Winston some credit, by the way.

Speaker 5 I think maybe what Sean Sean Payton was doing was he knew that if he had to have a scout team quarterback that could simulate an MVP-type performance from Matt Ryan, he needed Jameis on the scout team going up against his first-team defense to give them a look at what an elite passer can look like in the NFL.

Speaker 5 So I don't know if they're going to switch out and put Jameis in next week.

Speaker 4 Probably not.

Speaker 5 They might because I think Sean Payton just, more than anything, he likes fucking with other coaches.

Speaker 4 Oh, and he loves, so he retweeted Roddy White. Did you see that? I love Sean Payton being petty.
Roddy White tweeted before, sorry, I think it was a couple days ago.

Speaker 4 He tweeted something along the lines of, I'm going to pull it up right now.

Speaker 4 He said, Saints about to get whip trying us with Taysom Hill at QB. We about to snack them.
I think he meant smack them. Maybe snack them.
Snack them.

Speaker 4 And then Sean Payton just retweeted it after the game, which I love that type of petty.

Speaker 5 What's crazy is when I saw that for a second, I thought that Roddy White still played on the Falcons. Yes.

Speaker 4 I always think that. Yes.

Speaker 4 The Saints' defense is very, very good. They are rounding into form at the perfect time, and now they are alone at the top of the NFC with those two wins against the Bucs in their back pocket,

Speaker 4 and then the Packers losing.

Speaker 4 I don't really know what to make of the Saints because obviously I do think that Drew Brees has limitations that will fuck them in the playoffs. But if Taysom Hill, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's got just enough weirdness where he can run.

Speaker 4 He had that one pass to Emmanuel Sanders that was like wildly underthrown, but at some point, if you underthrow it so much, it's actually perfect. Yeah, because it just lets your guy go make a play.

Speaker 5 Well, no, what he's really good at is hanging on to the ball for a half second too long. But he was making the wrong decision, taking too long to make the right decision.

Speaker 5 But then when he finally makes it, it is underthrown, and the defender gets there at the last second and hits his guy before he can make a catch.

Speaker 5 So Taysom Hill is actually pretty good at drawing pass interference penalties.

Speaker 4 Right, and he's good. And Sean Payton, obviously, we shouldn't have doubted Sean Payton.
I think it was more that we just love Jameis Winston so much and all the comedy that comes with him.

Speaker 4 I got in a little fight with some Saints blogger who was mad that I said we need to see Jameis Winston. He's like,

Speaker 4 who's we? Like, well, we is the football-watching public, the people who want comedy in their lives, and Jameis Winston provides it.

Speaker 5 The community that wants to see him do his Wiley Coyote impression, like, run into a brick wall because somebody painted a tunnel on it. Right,

Speaker 4 it's fun. Go ahead, Saints.
Like, if you want to win your games, go ahead, be my guest. I would prefer to watch some fun, hilarious, crazy interceptions in Jameis Squinston.
Agreed.

Speaker 5 And, well, let's give credit to Taysom Hill.

Speaker 5 He's 30 years old now. He's a young 30 because he's a Mormon.
And so hit between him and Jameis.

Speaker 5 I don't think that there is a quarterback room in America that has a different, as much of a different background in terms of sex than those two when they get together.

Speaker 4 Yes, I'd say that's absolutely fair.

Speaker 5 Probably a fact.

Speaker 4 Yes, that's absolutely fair.

Speaker 5 And then in a third quarterback that can suck his own dick. Yep.

Speaker 4 That's a real freaky room.

Speaker 5 That is a freak, nasty room.

Speaker 4 Freaky ass room. A lot of stuff, though.

Speaker 4 The Falcons, I don't, I mean,

Speaker 4 Matt Ryan is just the most sackable guy in the world right now. He's just sackable.
He's just

Speaker 4 something about

Speaker 4 quarterbacks that didn't have a ton of athleticism to begin with.

Speaker 4 And as they get older and they just become these beautiful, sackable targets that just you know that if you get even close to him, he's going down. It's his neck.

Speaker 5 His neck's gotten longer. I think he's gotten skinnier, too.
Just overall, yeah, he's not as mobile. The most he does on a pump fake is like he does a little shoulder shrug.

Speaker 4 He likes shoulder shrugs to try to get out of the sack and then gets obliterated.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so he's very much a target. Him and Joe Flacco right now, I think, are the would probably be the softest, most

Speaker 4 sackable. Yeah, yeah.
Right. Eli Manning, somewhere.
He was, he had that crown for many years running where, you know, he self-sacked. But it's just, yeah,

Speaker 4 it's the perfect blend of a quarterback not having enough moves to get out, but also just kind of like giving up on, like, you know, he'll just kind of let you sack him.

Speaker 4 He's a very consensual sacker. Yeah, yeah.
He just lets you kind of sack.

Speaker 5 I don't think he has a problem with it. I'm never worried that when Matt Ryan gets sacked, that he's injured.
Right. Because he always gets hit directly in the small of his back or on his shoulders.

Speaker 5 But yeah, you're right. The Saints, they flipped a switch.
I told you that they were going to flip a switch. They did.
The defense is awesome. They are.
Oh, they look good.

Speaker 4 I still think it's the Drew Brees ceiling. Like, the Saints' defense has all of the bones to be a Super Bowl team.
They have the bones to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 They have an unbelievable running back. They have the number one wide receiver.

Speaker 4 Not number one overall, but I'm saying like a true wide receiver one, a great defense, a great coach. It's really just

Speaker 4 wherever Drew Brees takes you. That's what I've been saying for a very long time.
And if Drew Brees Brees plays out of his ass, I'll get a fucking tattoo.

Speaker 5 You know what I really miss, though? I really miss the Sean Payton to Dallas rumors. I know we probably have to give another year with Mike McCarthy in Dallas to get those started again.

Speaker 5 Yeah, let's let him.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 those boys are playing for him.

Speaker 5 If Sean Payton wins a Super Bowl and Drew Brees wins the Super Bowl for Sean Payton, Drew Brees retires, you think he talks to Jerry? He's like, hey, if you fire Mike McCarthy, I'll go down.

Speaker 4 I'm there.

Speaker 5 I think the answer is yes.

Speaker 4 So he needs to get Taysom Hill traded to Dallas first because that actually would save jerry money be like don't sign dak we've got taysom for we got 10.5 million yeah big time

Speaker 4 quarterback yeah right uh all right next up bengals washington football team i mean the story here obviously is joe burrow that fucking sucked uh he's gonna be out for the year he tweeted almost right away that he's you know he's he's a tough motherfucker so he tore everything in his knee and then was like i'll be back fedex field it continues to be the bermuda triangle for knees just a if you value your knee, don't go to Rale John, Maryland.

Speaker 5 It's just stay away.

Speaker 4 Quite ironic that it is like a Indian burial ground for a quarterback. Wounded knee.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 it's tough, but on the other side of the ball, the Washington football team has the best pass defense in the NFL. Oh.
That's just a stat, big kid.

Speaker 5 Oh, I'm not, listen, you're used to me cherry-picking stuff and saying, like, last year, I think the football team was still technically in the hunt until week 15. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Even though, like, the only chance that they would have to get in would be if everyone lost every game and they won out. The Washington football team is actually really good

Speaker 4 on defense. Where's the stat?

Speaker 5 No, that's the stat. They have the number one pass defense.

Speaker 4 25 yards per game alone. There we go.
That's pretty good. That is very good.

Speaker 5 That's really good. And their pass rush is amazing.
Chase Young is, you know what I'm going to say? He's a big one. As advertised.
Yes. Chase Young is as advertised.

Speaker 5 The hit that he put on Burrow to make him fumble at the goal line, which was assisted by the strong safety.

Speaker 4 Which, by the way,

Speaker 4 I cannot, there's nothing that is used more incorrectly on Twitter than the well, this aged well reply. Because after that, I said Joe Burrow has an astonishing lack of

Speaker 4 fear. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 5 Yikes, not a good look. Not a good look.

Speaker 4 He got injured not because of a lack of fear. It was a fluke injury where he got rolled up on his knee.
Right. Like, those two things have nothing to do with each other.

Speaker 5 Nothing at all.

Speaker 4 And I had that all day.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 here's a good test.

Speaker 4 For a this aged well,

Speaker 4 the this aged well tweet of the day is BYU.

Speaker 4 BYU tweeting anywhere, anyplace, anytime, and then denying to play a game against Washington because they want to see where they are in the college football rankings this weekend.

Speaker 4 That's a this aged well tweet. Me saying Joe Burrow has no fear, and then him getting rolled up on and tearing his ACL, those have nothing to do with each other.

Speaker 5 Here's a nice little fun stat, too, about the NFC East. Right now, so it's basically a four-way tie.
Every team has three wins.

Speaker 5 The Eagles have that one tie against the Bengals that puts them half-game.

Speaker 4 Doug Peterson, we laughed at him, but that actually could decide the division.

Speaker 5 He's a genius for doing that. The big stew brain got it right.

Speaker 5 The Los Angeles Rams are 4-0 against the NFC East. The Los Angeles Rams have more wins against that division than any team in that division has against the other 28 teams in the NFL.
I love it.

Speaker 4 I love it. So it's 3-6-1, and then 3-7, and seven, three and seven.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so Thanksgiving Day, guess what?

Speaker 4 Believable.

Speaker 5 The winner of that game is in first place, sole possession of the NFC East.

Speaker 4 I'm genuinely excited for it. Like, the NFC East has been a joke all year.
We've all had our fun.

Speaker 4 But now that you get in the middle or late November, all four teams able to possibly win the division, that's awesome. It's awesome.
Like, that's actually a very fun concept to have.

Speaker 5 I ran the numbers inside my own brain.

Speaker 4 It's not looking good.

Speaker 5 It's more than 50% that the winner of the NFC East is going to be 6-10.

Speaker 4 Ooh. Oh, I was going to say it's not looking good for the Washington Football.
No, they have a tough schedule.

Speaker 5 Everybody does. If you look at every team's schedule from this point.

Speaker 4 Well, I guess because they're all bad. They're all bad.

Speaker 5 So every team that they play is better than them, which is tough, unless they're playing each other and they beat each other up because they're the beast.

Speaker 5 But every team basically has to play, I think, two games against NFC West teams. Some have to play three games against NFC West teams.

Speaker 4 This is classic that it's actually kind of breaking for the Cowboys. A little bit.
Because the Cowboys play the Washington football. That will be the that might decide it.

Speaker 5 If the football team can beat the Cowboys, then I think they have the inside track.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the winner of that game is going to have the inside track, but the fact that they get

Speaker 4 they play at the Ravens should be tough, but at the Bengals without Joe Burrow, then they have the Niners and the Eagles at home.

Speaker 4 The Washington football team having to play at Steelers, at Niners, versus Seahawks, that's a gauntlet. It's tough.
That's going to be a tough.

Speaker 5 But if they beat the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving, I think, and when you take into account that the football team has the best point differential in the division, which is huge because I think that's like the sixth tiebreaker,

Speaker 5 you have to say that it favors the football team.

Speaker 5 And if the football team wins the NFC East, you can't change the name because then you have to play into the month of January, and then that throws the whole marketing schedule behind.

Speaker 5 Then they have to be the football team for another season on top of that.

Speaker 5 I have a thought experiment for you. Okay.

Speaker 5 We can wait to talk a little bit about the NFC West, but we can talk about it right now. Would you rather

Speaker 5 finish in second place in the NFC West

Speaker 5 or finish in third place, get the wildcard?

Speaker 5 I guess what I'm getting down to is

Speaker 4 thought experiments off to a

Speaker 4 confusing experience.

Speaker 5 Would you rather win the NFC West and then have to play a home game against a decent team

Speaker 5 or finish in the wildcard position and have to go to the NFC East and play a a shitty team on the road.

Speaker 4 That one.

Speaker 4 That one. Although

Speaker 4 we're forever changed by the Beast Quake and the fact that the Seahawks won that division at 7-9, whatever year that was, 2010 or something, and then beat the Saints at home.

Speaker 4 So I think no matter what, whoever wins the NFC is going to win a playoff game. They probably won't.
Because it just, that's how it will.

Speaker 4 We'll laugh about the NFC Beast all season long, and they'll win a playoff game and fuck everything up, and everyone will be like, what the hell just happened?

Speaker 5 And then you have to ask Alex Smith, Team of Destiny. Yeah.
You've got those good vibes. True, got the vibes.

Speaker 4 I said it. Sorry.

Speaker 9 I said it a few weeks before. I'm going to say it again.
It's probably going to be the Nickelodeon game.

Speaker 4 Yes, that's right. That's right.
All right,

Speaker 4 I have one good spin zone for Bengals fans because that sucked. Actually, two.
One is

Speaker 4 that BYU is scared to play Washington, so I personally, as a member of the media without a vote, will be voting for Cincinnati to get into the college football playoff over those cowards

Speaker 4 where Salt Lake Provo. Provo, yeah.
Two, the Bengals. Joe Burrow gets hurt.
Fucking sucks. We love Joe Burrow where Joe Burrow guys.

Speaker 4 They are probably not going to win another game. Guess what?

Speaker 4 A franchise-level offensive tackle,

Speaker 4 how do you say his name? Penay Suo from Oregon, who opted out this year, can now protect Joe Burrow. You need one, too.
So there you go.

Speaker 4 Like, that's, you don't want to see Joe Burrow get hurt, but the only only silver lining you have is you'll probably get a guy who's going to anchor your line for a decade to protect Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 Yes. Who's going to make Joe Burrow not get hurt? So there it is.

Speaker 4 So yeah, so that is the blessing in disguise if there is one.

Speaker 5 And then probably Joe Brady is going to be your head coach next year.

Speaker 4 Yes. So, all right, speaking of Joe Brady, let's go to that Panthers-Lions game.
This is the ultimate

Speaker 4 coaching game. I mean, the Panthers are a well-coached, bad team.
They don't have a lot of talent. They're on their backup quarterback.
They're on their backup running back.

Speaker 4 They're on their backup left tackle. They got absolutely pasted by the Bucs last week.
10 possessions, 10 scores. They come into this game.

Speaker 4 If you thought, hey, I don't remember even watching this game on red zone. Well, guess what? The Lions never had a play inside the red zone.
That's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 4 The Panthers defense is 31st in sacks. They had five today.
So that's just a good coached team versus Matt Patricia. What exactly do you do?

Speaker 5 Matt Patricia, I'm surprised he got on the plane to go back to Detroit. Matt Patricia,

Speaker 5 here's what Matt Patricia does. He feeds Adrian Peterson.
Matt Patricia develops a game plan. I'd say like week two of the preseason, and then he sticks to that game plan for the next 19 weeks.

Speaker 5 And Adrian Peterson is starting to develop into a stat line guy.

Speaker 5 We have to look at his stat lines every single game.

Speaker 4 Josh Rosen, yeah.

Speaker 5 Today, seven carries, 18 yards, 2.6 yards per carry. More carries than Carryon Johnson, who's without a doubt a better running back.

Speaker 4 DeAndre Swift did get a concussion.

Speaker 5 Yeah, DeAndre Swift is out, but Matt Patricia, even when Swift was healthy, was insistent on giving the ball to Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 4 They didn't start him until last week.

Speaker 4 The first time they drafted him.

Speaker 5 I feel like every single game, Adrian Peterson has like seven rushes for 18 yards.

Speaker 4 Let's see if this works. Let's establish a run.
Yeah, I just don't know what, like, this is an absolute, and we never talk about another man's job, but this is a firing loss.

Speaker 4 You can't get shut out by a defense that's not very good in a game that you're kind of fighting for. Like, look at what happened in the NFC North.
Everyone else lost.

Speaker 4 If you win this game, that itty-bitty run that I was, you know, predicting would have come true, and you'd be sitting here on Thanksgiving at home against the Texans looking to go above 500 and be like, hey, we could sneak into this thing.

Speaker 4 Instead, you lay an actual literal egg with zero points, no red zone trips. That's so impossible to do in 2020 with like a competent quarterback.
Just get a penalty every now and again.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and Matt Stafford is.

Speaker 4 They had to play, I think, on the 25, and then they went backwards. But

Speaker 4 it's just crazy. This is a coaching game.
Like, both of these rosters are flawed, and one coaching staff completely owned the other one.

Speaker 5 I also think PJ Walker is good.

Speaker 4 I think he, I think he's. Well, he got his contract.
He got his backup contract for sure.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's a serviceable backup in the NFL, XFL All-Star, XFL legend. And they're doing this all, as you mentioned, without Christian McCaffrey, which is really impressive.

Speaker 4 Right. And so I also, the only other stat I had was

Speaker 4 the, I love when a player can do this when they basically, I mean, he got hurt, but Kenny Galladay didn't play today. But their absence just makes them money.

Speaker 4 So Kenny Galladay is in a contract dispute. Because of the Lions, they probably won't pay him because they're idiots.
But with Kenny Galladay this year, the Lions are 3-2, 26.4 points per game.

Speaker 4 Without him, they're 1-4, 18.8 points per game. Makes a difference.

Speaker 4 Seems like that guy might be important to your offense, might want to pay him a little bit of money because you are a totally different team without him.

Speaker 5 I also think that DJ Moore is a very good wide receiver for the Panthers.

Speaker 5 And Robbie Anderson. Yeah, he had 127 yards.
Gone are the days where you can just say, like, oh, the Panthers will never have a good wide receiver.

Speaker 5 Ever since Steve Smith left, they've been, you know, they had funches for a while. They had Kelvin Benjamin.

Speaker 4 They were just trying to keep him, yeah, trying to keep him out of the fast food drive-through for 60 minutes a week to see if he could not play as a tight end um but now they've got two really good wide receivers by the way we fucked up we got to go back again real quick fat randy was trending on twitter today yeah yeah fat randy was trending on twitter when randy bullock missed two kicks sorry well it's so funny that fat randy when he doinks a ball that makes it that's so much more of a fat randy literally the name it was fat randy trending fat randy was trending on twitter so apology apologies i think then this one guy tweeted a like a way, way overweight tiger.

Speaker 4 It was like, look at Fat Randy going back to the sideline. That made me laugh.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, any sort of fat animal is going to be very funny. But the good thing for Fat Randy was he didn't lose this game.
He just provided a little bit of comic relief.

Speaker 4 Right, right. So, yeah, the Lions are, I don't know what you have to basically overhaul everything again.

Speaker 4 And then the Panthers are just a really good coach team with a limited roster that will be scrappy and spunky for the rest of the season. They'll pick another team off.

Speaker 4 They'll have another game where they'll fuck up someone's season going down.

Speaker 5 Probably the football team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was going to say maybe the football team.

Speaker 4 It does look like it could be the football team.

Speaker 5 That's the blessing and the curse of being the football team. You could either win your division or literally any team in the NFL could beat you.
Could beat you.

Speaker 4 And beat you badly.

Speaker 5 Like, I would not be shocked if the football team lost to the Jets.

Speaker 4 All right. Before we get to the next game, I have a question for you, PFT.
Yeah. So Thanksgiving's coming up.
Sure is. Christmas is coming up.

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Speaker 4 All right. Next up, the Fraud Bowl.
Uh-oh. Titans Ravens.
Titans, Ravens, and the Fraud Bowl.

Speaker 5 Hey, you know, these two teams are starting to become the no-love loss teams.

Speaker 4 The no-love lost teams.

Speaker 5 Because there was a fight before the game, and then, and then after the game.

Speaker 4 Don't ever step on another man's logo.

Speaker 5 You don't step on the midfield logo. Everybody knows that.
That's our logo. You don't do it.
It's disrespectful in another man's stadium to stand at midfield. Then after the game,

Speaker 5 Vrabel went in for the handshake. Harbaugh told him, no thanks.

Speaker 4 Oh, no thanks. COVID.

Speaker 5 Little Ohio State-Michigan rivalry going on. I love it.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, Malcolm Butler, like,

Speaker 4 John Harbaugh was, like, ready to go with Malcolm Butler. He wasn't backing down.

Speaker 5 Would you think that John Harbaugh could beat up Malcolm Butler?

Speaker 4 Probably not.

Speaker 4 Well, where did he

Speaker 4 go

Speaker 4 to high school? And

Speaker 5 he did not go into

Speaker 5 he was not in the Bronx. He was not in the Bronx that I know of.

Speaker 5 But no, I think Malcolm Butler would beat the shit out of Harbaugh.

Speaker 5 In fact, I think that John has probably gotten his ass kicked so many times over his life by his brother Jim that he just doesn't get into fights anymore.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, he's not going to do that.

Speaker 4 This game, though,

Speaker 4 the Titans deserve the win. They played well in the second half.
The Ravens defense kind of just fell apart. Derrick Henry had nothing in the first half.

Speaker 4 Tractor Cedo season, I think, is officially on. He had

Speaker 4 the run to seal the game in overtime. I think he had, so he had 36 yards at half.
He ended with 133. So the Ravens' defense kind of just fell off.
And then that A.J.

Speaker 4 Brown touchdown where he broke like five tackles.

Speaker 5 He's a beast.

Speaker 4 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 You could say injuries. Callaius Campbell obviously matters a lot.
Brandon Williams matters, but the Titans just kind of wanted this more, it felt like.

Speaker 5 And AJ Brown, the thing about him is he's always been like the second biggest dude. So he gets overshadowed because he was in that picture with DK Metcalf at Ole Miss.

Speaker 5 And everybody was like, who the fuck is this guy?

Speaker 4 How'd they lose all these games? Yeah, who's this

Speaker 5 guy that looks like Robocop with his shirt off? Oh, that's DK. We're not going to look at AJ Brown anymore.
And now he's with Corey. What's his name? Corey Davis.

Speaker 5 Corey Davis, who's also just a ginormous dude. AJ Brown is a fucking monster.
And yeah, he's awesome. Monster.

Speaker 5 And then just the defense for the Ravens didn't look like they wanted to tackle anybody in the second half. I have a spin zone for the Ravens.

Speaker 4 I do too.

Speaker 5 You might miss the playoffs, in which case, the narrative of Lamar Jackson can't win a playoff game takes a year off. And then he comes back with his back against the wall with something to prove.

Speaker 5 And he doesn't have to spend an entire offseason thinking about how he's the quarterback. That's awesome who can't win a playoff game.

Speaker 4 Okay, I have a spin zone for the Ravens. They're definitely going to make the playoffs.
Okay. So it's bad.

Speaker 4 Two games in a row.

Speaker 4 The loss against the Patriots on Sunday night football, then they lose to the Titans. The fraudulent word has been used.

Speaker 4 You can see that they can't, like, they were so close to maybe being able to do what everyone's wanted them to do: like, come back late,

Speaker 4 long drive, throw the ball, win from behind, all that. Didn't happen.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 they have the Steelers on Thursday night, which we both said they could definitely, like, that's a game you could see them winning just because their back is against the wall.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think that the Ravens, I'm going to bet on them.

Speaker 4 If Glacius Campbell's playing, I think I just feel like they will bounce back.

Speaker 4 Their back truly is against the wall.

Speaker 5 Yes, there's a good chance that they beat the Steelers.

Speaker 5 Even if they're going to look like an idiot when the Steelers smoke them, but for some reason, I feel like we haven't really seen Lamar Jackson with his back against the wall in the regular season ever.

Speaker 4 Right. So even if they lose on Thursday night, which would bring them to 6-5,

Speaker 4 their home stretch is Cowboys at Browns, Jags, Giants, at Bengals. They will be favored in all those games, most likely.
Maybe not the Browns game. But

Speaker 4 I think the Ravens have 10 wins in them. Kind of no matter how it shakes them.

Speaker 5 But 10 wins won't necessarily get you into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 I think it will in the AFC.

Speaker 5 It might. I think there's going to be one team with 10 wins that gets left out.
Lamar Jackson also said after the game, I feel like people want us to lose.

Speaker 5 So Lamar Jackson has entered the level of his own brain where he's like the people that hate Joe Buck and think that Joe Buck hates all their teams. Right.
Lamar, that's kind of how it works.

Speaker 5 Like if you're not a Ravens fan, pretty much everybody wants you to lose.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everyone wants you to lose. So it will be,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, 10 wins, there could be a team that's looking out from the outside in with 10 wins, but I do think they will get to 10, maybe even 11, just by their schedule.

Speaker 4 Wait, what are they right now? They're 6-4. Yeah, so if they lost to the Steelers and then they ran the table, they'd have 11 wins.
Yeah, I do think that they will still make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 So there you go, Ravens fans. Say something nice about the Ravens.

Speaker 9 One little fun nugget here: missed opportunity. We talked about it when we were watching the game.
We missed out on an opportunity to see the Derrick Henry, Mark Ingram reenactment went off.

Speaker 4 Yes, right there. And overtime.
It was right opportunity. You could have had it again and overtime.

Speaker 5 It would have been amazing to recreate that meme.

Speaker 4 It was right there for the taking.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 All right. So

Speaker 4 let's go on. Patriots, Texans.

Speaker 4 The Patriots season is over. That was kind of their last gasp.
It's pretty much impossible to make that. We just said that, you know, a 10-win team might not make it.

Speaker 4 They now have six losses, so they would legitimately have to run the table. The Texans, Deshaun Watson, like, this is, if you're a Texans fan, this season sucks.

Speaker 4 Your team sucks, but then you watch Deshaun Watson and you're like, okay, I'm okay. I can go to sleep.

Speaker 5 because he had the the Texans had 399 yards Deshaun Watson had 380 of them damn that's insane and it felt like he had all day to pass back there all day there were all day I think I looked at at the game five or six different times where he was running around for maybe like four or five seconds in the pocket like McNabb used to do on those plays but he was doing it all game long so the Patriots have obviously a lot of issues Hank are you have you completely thrown in the towel yes I was wrong season's over That was the towel throwing in loss because you had to beat the Texans.

Speaker 4 If you looked at their schedule, knowing how good the AFC is and how it's going to be

Speaker 4 10-6 is going to be necessary to make the playoffs.

Speaker 5 Has this season made you think less of yourself as a person now that your team is just like everyone else as an average?

Speaker 10 No, it's all right. I mean, I think water finds its level.
You can't be a top-tier team in the league every single year. There's got to be some parody if the NFL is ever going to work.

Speaker 10 Also, Deshaun Watson, baby Braun of the Week for me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think they're going to do Baby Braun of the Week going forward. Yeah, he definitely, I mean, 380 of 399 is stupid.

Speaker 5 What do you think went into the decision for the Houston Texans to keep their roof open this week or to open their roof, which was the first time in six years that they've opened their roof?

Speaker 10 I feel like it might have been a contract thing. Like, you have to open it X amount of times in 10 years.

Speaker 4 Just like a maintenance? In 10 years? Yeah,

Speaker 4 their warranty expires if they don't use it.

Speaker 5 It's like rotating the tires. Yeah.
You have to make sure that it, yeah.

Speaker 4 I also wouldn't be shocked if it was someone in the Texas, like the owner of the Texans, being like, I'm going to out Belichick, Belichick, and Belichick probably didn't even notice it was open.

Speaker 5 Definitely not.

Speaker 5 It probably had to do with like COVID stuff because then it was technically outside. It's easy.

Speaker 4 Why didn't they do it before?

Speaker 5 Well, because Texas just became a hospital. Because it was indoors, but then if you open the roof, it's technically outdoors.

Speaker 4 Right, but why didn't they do that earlier in the season? Like, COVID didn't get invented last week.

Speaker 5 Bill O'Brien wanted to kill it. He wanted to kill everyone.

Speaker 4 That's a new line of thinking. That's my theory.

Speaker 5 Texas actually, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, no, it's a new line of thinking. It does feel maybe they could get more fans in.
My theory. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 My theory is that the president of the Houston Texans, whoever that is,

Speaker 5 had a hot date and was just like, you want to see what my stadium can be. Let me show you.

Speaker 5 It's like when you get a chick in your car for the first time and you use the features that you've never used before.

Speaker 4 You want the seated seat?

Speaker 5 Yeah, let's pop the moon roof open.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it takes like 30 minutes, too. It's like, hey, why don't you sit back? I'm going to open this roof.
25 to 30 minutes. But yeah, it's going to go one mile an hour.

Speaker 5 I I like the idea of them thinking that this is their way to outfox Bilichek. Right.
And he just didn't even think something. Bill Bilichek does not look up.
No.

Speaker 4 He has no. Yeah.
So Cam Newton, I think the interesting part about the season's the Patriots final stretch here is: will Cam Newton be their quarterback? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I don't know what it is about Cam Newton, but the guy just loves taking face-first sacks. Like, he likes to watch himself get sacked.
He likes to see the sack coming and do do nothing about it.

Speaker 4 And I don't, like,

Speaker 4 I don't know football to a level. Obviously, Cam Newt was the MVP, but it does feel like there's a lot of times where there's a blitz coming, and he's very surprised by it.

Speaker 5 Me and Billy were talking about it. Obviously, Billy understands quarterback play from a vegan more than anybody else.
And Billy was saying that he's not putting his legs into his throws at all. So

Speaker 4 vegan to vegan, you might have to do it.

Speaker 4 He had the foot injury last year was a lot more to do with it than the shoulder.

Speaker 5 I disagree.

Speaker 5 I think his shoulder is not 100%. It's never.

Speaker 4 No, there was like a whole stat where it was basically like he couldn't plant and throw an entire side of the field.

Speaker 5 Respectfully, Big Cat, your track record recently on shoulder injuries? No.

Speaker 4 No. Right? Well, ribs

Speaker 5 have problems. Respectfully.

Speaker 4 Ribs is where I am.

Speaker 5 If you get that shoulder surgery, if you have a labrum, like Andrew Luck had the same thing. That's like three years ago.
Yeah, but sometimes

Speaker 5 it never gets back to 100%.

Speaker 5 It's just impossible to get back there.

Speaker 4 So what is it? Feed or shoulder?

Speaker 5 Billy. No, it's just sort of his mechanics and probably disadvantaged by his injuries.
Got it. And veganism.

Speaker 4 And also, there's a 50-50 chance that he's throwing a weighted medicine ball with all the weight in the tip of the ball because every single pass he's ever thrown just dives right at people's feet.

Speaker 5 He releases it, and the nose of the ball is pointed down, and he throws it directly over his head, and it just skips. It just goes like straight down.
It's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 Like he's throwing a hatchet. It's that exact same motion.
It's really strange to watch.

Speaker 4 So I don't, yeah, I don't think he is their quarterback of the future.

Speaker 4 But yeah, that was,

Speaker 4 it was, Deshaun Watson had forever today, forever to throw.

Speaker 5 Hank, can you give us a little bit of insight? What are you going to do moving forward?

Speaker 4 I don't really know. I mean, it's too late to root for a tank.

Speaker 10 I hope that we can maybe, you know, the Bills and the Dolphins games late in the season. I think we could, you know,

Speaker 5 play spoilers.

Speaker 5 That's sad, Hank. It's so sad to see

Speaker 5 how the mighty have fallen.

Speaker 4 You're a spoiler, Moe.

Speaker 5 Rooting for spoils.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, it's all you can do.

Speaker 10 I'm appreciative of all the Super Bowls we've won in the past six years, and, you know, you can't get them every year.

Speaker 5 So, Hank, who's your second team? You've never had to deal with this before.

Speaker 4 You're just

Speaker 4 talking about Bucks, yeah. Obviously.

Speaker 10 It's dumb. Bucks, Rams.

Speaker 4 Rams? For who? For Jalen Ramsey? Jared Goff. Oh, you're a Jared Goff fan.
Huge Jared Goff fan. Got it.
I don't think you're actually that upset.

Speaker 5 What do you mean? I don't think you're that upset that the Patriots aren't doing well.

Speaker 10 Well, I mean, it was a long shot for them to make the playoffs. They're going to have to basically win out.
So it's like, at least they lost out early on.

Speaker 10 It's not like, you know, know, if they had won this game the next two or three games, then my hopes would have been much higher and I would have been more like devastated. But,

Speaker 5 you know, did you even try not watching the games? That's tended to work for you in the past.

Speaker 10 No, that's a playoff. You should only say that for the playoffs, PFT.
You wouldn't know because you haven't been there in a while, but it's not something you can just whip out.

Speaker 5 2015. I got a theory that Pats fans are secretly rooting harder for the Bucs than the actual Patriots.

Speaker 4 Ooh.

Speaker 5 Okay. I'm seeing that a lot amongst my players.

Speaker 4 Well, four and six, I mean, it is kind of over in the AFC.

Speaker 4 Sorry, Hank. All right.

Speaker 4 It's all right. Let's do Dolphins, Broncos.

Speaker 5 I was right about Altatua.

Speaker 4 Yes. Tua thing.

Speaker 5 It's a thing.

Speaker 4 So he was officially benched not because of an injury. So Brian Flores came out and was like, yeah, he sucked.
Which kind of sucks for Tua because he did get rolled up on, and he could have easily.

Speaker 4 Brian Flores could have said, yeah, he could have been like, yeah, no, he was hurt. No, he sucked.
And

Speaker 4 I think we were all, I mean, his games have been up and down so far. And credit to Vic Fangio.
He's a fucking good coach, man. He's such a good defensive coach.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, let's

Speaker 5 add the defensive in there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know, no. Offensively, I don't know.

Speaker 4 He would be the best defensive coordinator if he went down a level. Right.

Speaker 5 He's just got like unsalted porridge for his brain.

Speaker 4 But he's really good at stopping guys.

Speaker 5 He knows exactly what to do on defense. And then when it comes to offense, he's like, I'll just let Pat Shermer hands off.
Pat Shermer's got it. His genius offensive.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Two of those, he had

Speaker 4 out of his eight drives, five of them were three and outs. Yeah, not good.

Speaker 5 Drew Locke didn't look that good. I noticed that he's a visor guy, too, so he's not going to win Super Bowl.
So I'd officially like to retract. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 4 My True Locke.

Speaker 5 I'm off True Locke because I found out that he's a visor guy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and he also, I mean, he played a little bit better because his running game was good.

Speaker 4 All-time uniform game, just bright colors. Uh-huh.

Speaker 5 Melvin Gordon Revenge game.

Speaker 4 I just something about watching games in Denver I just love.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, never mind. That's a different thing I I was thinking about.
Not a Melvin Gordon revenge game.

Speaker 4 Not a Melvin Gordon Regenge.

Speaker 5 But yes, I did enjoy the oranges.

Speaker 4 Colors and just there's something about Denver. It just feels like you can almost feel the brisk air when you're watching it.
I don't know. I just love watching games in Denver.
Yeah, I really do.

Speaker 5 I like it even better when there's like just a little dusting of snow.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You're going to get some snow football next week?

Speaker 4 I think so. Let's get it.
Eh, maybe. We're going to get it.
What do you say?

Speaker 10 I think you've got to be worried if you're a Dolphins fan, the refs are going to come after them after they trampled that referee.

Speaker 4 Would they trampled a ref?

Speaker 10 They had an interception and their entire defense trampled the referee like it was Lion King. So that's going to

Speaker 4 come back to them.

Speaker 4 That spreads. Definitely gets talked about in the ref circles, in the ref community.
Joe West is sick. You know what?

Speaker 5 I'm glad that Brian Flores did not lie for Tua. I like that.
Yeah. I like Brian Flores.

Speaker 4 Welcome to the league, Rook. Exactly.
Boom. Have some.

Speaker 5 Speaking of refs, you guys see Juju Smith turn his ankle on a flag, a ref through?

Speaker 4 No. Oh, I did.
He turned his ankle. I don't think he got hurt at all.
Like the old back Orlando Pace, you remember that when he got hit in the face? No, it wasn't Orlando Pace. Orlando Brown.

Speaker 5 Orlando Brown got hit in the eye with a penalty flag. But it's kind of like...

Speaker 5 They actually should change the makeup of the flags because they're kind of like basically balls with the swag wrapped around. I think they actually should change them.
Make them heavier.

Speaker 5 Just make it flat so you can't turn your ankle on. What if it's a flare and you shoot it at the player?

Speaker 4 What if you shoot it in the ground? It makes a hole in the ground.

Speaker 4 And they just play with a bunch of holes.

Speaker 5 Don't think about that in DC.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But yeah, this game, I don't know. Tua.
Tua's. And Fitzpatrick, we almost had Fitzpatrick.
He went like 99 yards.

Speaker 4 He went 85 yards.

Speaker 5 It's his beard. His beard is a natural altitude mask, basically, whenever he's training at sea level.
Yeah. So he has less oxygen, more play in the mountains.

Speaker 4 And you basically, if you're a defense against Fitzpatrick, you're like, hey, we just need to get into a third and long late where he has to throw the ball. And he will throw the ball.

Speaker 4 And he will throw it where someone is very much covered.

Speaker 4 All right, next game before we do that.

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Speaker 5 I'm watching this video right now of the ref getting run over by the Dolphins. Yep.
First response, not really funny, my dude. Guy looks like he got hurt.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 5 I stand with that guy just for dropping the middle.

Speaker 4 Oh, he did. For dropping the mic.
dude on the example.

Speaker 5 Now,

Speaker 5 this is an epidemic right now in the NFL. Defenses creating turnovers and then sprinting to the end zone cam to just all stand together.
Saints and Ravens

Speaker 4 video board.

Speaker 4 Saints and Ravens.

Speaker 5 It was cool when the Saints did it. Yeah.
But now everyone's... And you know what? It was even, it was okay when there were fans in the stands and photographers on the sidelines taking pictures.

Speaker 5 Now they just go stand in front of the mirror like it's one of those workout mirrors that you do at home where they tell you like what positions to be in. Yep.

Speaker 5 They stand in front of it and just mug for the mirror. Not a fan.
I think that's candy ass football.

Speaker 4 I agree.

Speaker 4 All right. Let's go to Jets Chargers.

Speaker 5 So. Justin Herbert, best quarterback in the NFL? He's pretty good.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 this was a who could like out

Speaker 4 DNA the other team. The Chargers were up 18 at halftime and they almost blew it.
But the Jets outjetted the Chargers trying to charger themselves by just being the Jets.

Speaker 5 But you can't outjet the Jets.

Speaker 4 Right. Like the Chargers were like, hey, we're going to really try to charger this up by getting a big lead and losing it and having everything go wrong and having stupid shit happen.

Speaker 4 And the Jets were like, no, we're the Jets. We're going to outjet.
The Jets' powers to lose are stronger than the Chargers' powers to charger.

Speaker 5 I think that the Jets have all the Chargers' powers within them, plus the added Jets-nessness of it.

Speaker 4 And that makes them the Jets. Right, right.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so the Jets are like a leveled up Chargers 2.0 version where they can always manage to outfuck themselves. It is an end of an era right now.

Speaker 5 The Jets are officially eliminated from playoff contests. Oh, damn.
They're the first team. Hyperdrive didn't work.

Speaker 4 Did not work, but the tank, it could not be going better.

Speaker 5 Do you think that they could beat the ON-16 Browns?

Speaker 5 Yeah. I think they could.

Speaker 4 I think they're frisky. They have had frisky moments.

Speaker 5 They've got more talent. I think that the Owen 16 Lions.

Speaker 5 Would lose to both of them. Yeah.
I think that's still the worst O-16 team.

Speaker 4 I also think that whenever the Jets go out west they just look especially bad yeah something about the jets rode jerseys maybe it's the mark sanchez when he ate a hot dog game like something about the jets rode jerseys on the west coast you're like that doesn't work i i would not want to play the jets if i was another team not because oh no i would not because i don't think that we could beat them it's just because this is where greg williams tries to put something on tape

Speaker 5 for the rest of the season like greg greg is going to make up that he's going to get head coaching offers after this season now it's a matter of if he's going to make up that he's going to get six or ten of them.

Speaker 5 And I think the more of the opposing players that he can injure, that to him is like a big resume booster. Yes.
So

Speaker 5 Greg Williams playing with nothing to lose, like a cornered jackal that's got rabies. So watch out.
He might actually, he might kill Adam Gase on the sidelines, too.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 5 Because he just, he's a very Shakespearean type of guy, and he's going to figure out a way to come out of this not looking like he's the problem on this chess team.

Speaker 4 Right, absolutely. Always, always.

Speaker 4 I love intentional safeties. I fucking love them.
There's something about an intentional safety that just, it gets me going. It's just like, ooh, there's gamesmanship afoot.

Speaker 5 It made Anthony Lynn seem like a genius.

Speaker 4 Yeah, right. Like an intentional safety is just, it's something that I immediately just bump you up 10 IQ points.
You're like, ooh, I didn't see that one coming. And then afterwards.

Speaker 4 Run out of your own end zone.

Speaker 5 And then afterwards, the Jets actually almost tied. And the Chargers got a stop.
Inside their own 10-yard line. Can you believe that? Yes.
It was a weird game.

Speaker 4 It was a very weird game.

Speaker 4 Also, shout out Keenan Allen. He needs a little love.
So he had 16 catches. He's now leading the league in catches.

Speaker 4 That just feels like something that he should be, you know,

Speaker 4 pat on the back for because not a lot of great things are going on at the Charger world, except, you know, Justin Herbert, obviously. But that's...

Speaker 4 If you said to yourself, who's leading the league in catches, you wouldn't have thought Keenan Allen.

Speaker 5 I also think there's something really cool about a wide receiver that catches a goal-line fade with a hoodie on. It just looks awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it does. Yeah, the constant hoodie, guys.
I think TCU does that. TCU has a lot of hoodies, and I'm always like, damn, they look badass.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, the Jets. Good job.
Tank is on. Trevor Lawrence was trending.
I don't know if he was trending because Dabo said that

Speaker 4 was forfeited or

Speaker 4 if it was because the Jets are going to get Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 5 I don't think it's going to happen, but I would love to see Trevor Lawrence pull an Eli Manning or a John Elway on draft day and say, I don't want to play for the Jets. I want to play for the Jets.

Speaker 5 I want to play for the Giants. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 That'd be awesome actually if he ended up just playing in New York in front of the same

Speaker 4 facility. Yeah, just in their face.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right, Cowboys, Vikings.

Speaker 4 Man, the Vikings defense fucking sucks.

Speaker 4 Credit to Cowboys, though, for

Speaker 4 putting together an actual game for once. And I, listen,

Speaker 4 I had the Chevy truck on the line for Survivor. I was very upset.
This This game sucked for me. And we've been predicting this was going to happen at some point, and it finally happened.

Speaker 4 The yellow shoe penalty. The end of the game happens.
Kirk Cousins throws it deep. Incomplete.
Flag pops up. And then they zoom in.
They're like, nope, not a flag.

Speaker 4 It's just Adam Thielen's shoe fell off and it's a yellow shoe. Yep.
It's color yellow should not be allowed on the Chiefs do it. The Vikings do it.
If it's a glove, the Chargers do it.

Speaker 4 It's a a mouthpiece, not okay. It's you know, and it's also they do it with the score bug when the like Chargers score, yellow flashes over, then the score.

Speaker 4 And I always think that's a penalty because that's the first thing that you look for is whether or not you flag on the field.

Speaker 5 Again, this is something that a flare gun could, it could easily solve this problem if you just give the referees like if they had a paintball gun where they just fired it at the player that committed the penalty, yes, that'd be sick too.

Speaker 5 Just brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal, because that is the that's like there, there's something about losing and having those three to five seconds after a loss where you just have this denial phase you're like no there's got to be a penalty and after those five seconds having it slowly creep into your brain that there is no penalty so having a fucking shoe be the fake flag what a killer yeah what an absolute kick in the dick where everybody just points at the screen because the flag score bug is up there and then it just goes away and if you're in a bar watching that doesn't have sound it takes you a long time to figure it out and then they zoom in on a shoe and then you're like what the fuck what did you just do to me right you just ruined my entire sundae mood um brutal the shoe penalty credit to cee di lamb that catch was awesome awesome you might think it was an incredible catch but i went back and i watched it I think that most of us have made that exact same catch in our life when we're sitting on a beanbag chair and your bro tosses you a natty light.

Speaker 5 Right. And you like lean back and you catch it over your head.
I know I've made that same catch with a beer can at least dozens of times.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 But it was pretty sweet. The Cowboys have amazing wide receivers.

Speaker 4 Amazing wide receivers. And it's, I mean, Andy Dalton finally has a team around him.
Ready, built for Andy Dalton. They built it for Andy Dalton.

Speaker 4 But it's, yeah, the Vikings, like, that's got to be such a disappointing loss because they were sneaking into the playoff picture. That was a win they had to have.

Speaker 4 And they just couldn't get off the field. Like, they just run all over him.
Kirk Cousins wasn't bad.

Speaker 4 He actually was good. He, you know,

Speaker 4 he played a good game. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Can we find the helmet that fits, though?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 5 he doesn't have a helmet. It just bounces around on his head all the time.

Speaker 5 And he's a big guy that no matter what happens, if they get a first down, it doesn't matter if there's 10 minutes left in a quarter or four minutes left in a quarter. He like sprints up to the last.

Speaker 5 He's always thinking to himself, like, that might not have been a catch. Things don't happen to me, Kirk Cousins.
Right. We got a first down.

Speaker 5 I better hurry up and snap the ball before they overturn it.

Speaker 4 Weird. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We need to get the helmet for Kirk Cousins. Also, Adam Thielen, shout out to him.
He actually is close to the record for red zone touchdowns this year. He has 10 records.
Randy Moss with 14 in 2007.

Speaker 4 That's another one where you're like, oh, Adam Thielen.

Speaker 5 Would not have thought that.

Speaker 4 Would not have thought that. Yeah, the Vikings, like, that's just.

Speaker 5 They've been my best, worst team all year. And I think they still are.

Speaker 4 I know. And it's just, you can't have that loss.
You cannot have that loss. You can't have that loss.

Speaker 5 I was really counting on that to have the football team be a full game ahead of the Cowboys. Yeah, Yeah, now the Cowboys went to play with going in Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 The Cowboys might be in Frisky. Did the buy come at the perfect time? And we got Skip Bayless doing his dance.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Billy thinks that he's being held hostage inside his own home and forced to do free Britney.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like free skip.

Speaker 5 Free skip. Free skip.
So what are you saying? Like there's somebody that lives in Skip Bayless.

Speaker 4 Would anybody

Speaker 4 does rarely

Speaker 5 dance like that?

Speaker 10 Well, that's like Britney Spears has the dad that's like the one controlling her hook.

Speaker 4 Who's controlling Ernestine, bro?

Speaker 4 Shannon Sharp. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Free Skip. I wouldn't be surprised if Steven

Speaker 5 actually lived in Skip Bayless's house and locked him in a bedroom all day. Right.
And was still his daddy.

Speaker 4 That was a bizarre but kind of electric video. Because I was kind of into it.

Speaker 5 I mean, he's not a bad dancer.

Speaker 4 No, he's a great dancer. He's fucking phenomenal.
His hips, don't lie.

Speaker 5 He was wearing the same jersey that he apparently threw out.

Speaker 4 The Zeke jersey? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Was this piss myself? Not a nice guy.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 5 Not a nice guy. Wait.
What?

Speaker 4 Did you just...

Speaker 9 It's been said before. I'm on the record.

Speaker 4 I don't think that counts. What? Because, like, you've kind of...
You're like,

Speaker 4 pick a number. Like, there's so many people who don't like Skip Bayless.
I want you to say something mean or bad about someone who's actually liked.

Speaker 9 Well, he made fun, not made fun of.

Speaker 5 He made some comments about Dak.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The depression.
Yeah, you're see.

Speaker 4 Try again, Jake. What? I want a new name.
I want to find a

Speaker 4 commentator that Jake can criticize once.

Speaker 4 We will get that. We will find that.
We'll find you a rival.

Speaker 5 You need an enemy. Dude, you need to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 Okay. Something to wake up in the morning.
Revelle. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. Why? He's the reason I have a job here in this place.
True. So props to him.
True. But that

Speaker 4 Northwestern thing, come on.

Speaker 9 First of all, when he says we and us and our, you're not on the team, bro.

Speaker 4 Yep. Good point.
Good point. North worst.
Northwestern.

Speaker 4 They're a good program. Yes.

Speaker 4 We'll talk about it. Yeah, we'll do some college football talk on the other side of Deion.
But yes, yes. There you go.
Good.

Speaker 5 Good.

Speaker 5 He always gets frisky this time of year, too, because this is the one-year anniversary of him tweeting out the high-res 4K JFK assassination video with Let the Bodies Hit the Floor as a soundtrack or whatever it was last year.

Speaker 5 So this time, he starts to feel himself around late November.

Speaker 4 Yes, it's absolutely true. This is right around where he's like, ooh, should I tweet out on any more assassinations?

Speaker 4 Get the people going with their morning coffee.

Speaker 9 Two people I'm on the record of having not nice things.

Speaker 4 Good job, Jake. I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 Finally, Packers Colts.

Speaker 4 I had such a fucking bad football weekend, and we'll talk about college football after Deion, but gambling, college football, that I couldn't even fully enjoy the Packers being frauds. But they are.

Speaker 4 are.

Speaker 5 I don't know if this was a Packers fraud game.

Speaker 4 Let me give you a stat.

Speaker 4 Packers gave up 420 yards to the Colts' offense. The Colts offense, not so explosive, okay? Philip Rivers, he's like a million years old.

Speaker 4 They also gave up 140 yards on the ground, 97 of them in the second half. This is what I've been saying.

Speaker 4 Like, the Packers, when they get against an offense that can be a little bit physical, they have not been able to stop the run. That's just their MO.

Speaker 4 It's not a Rodgers criticism, although although the Colts' defense deserves a shitload of credit because they got 28 points in the first half, got a little bit of torched, and then totally shut them down in the second half.

Speaker 4 They didn't score until 10 seconds left with that field goal. So they get a lot of credit.

Speaker 5 Maybe it was kind of a fraud game for the Packers, but this was one where I always thought that the Colts could beat them, especially at home. And the roof was closed for the first time all season.

Speaker 5 So I always thought that, like, yeah, Packers on the road against a good team that can run the ball.

Speaker 5 Probably not a game that I would necessarily expect the Packers to win.

Speaker 5 If I were playing against the Pat or against Phillip Rivers and I was trying to scheme up a defense, why would you not just blitz them every single passing opportunity? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, what's Philip Rivers going to do? It takes him like six seconds to drop out where he's going to end up to throw the ball.

Speaker 4 I love that he doesn't QB sneak. He will never present Jacoby Bruce.

Speaker 5 He's too honest.

Speaker 4 It's like a hitman that he brings in.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to get my hands dirty.

Speaker 5 I love that he also went to the bathroom in between the end of regulation and overtime.

Speaker 5 He just jogged in there, and you couldn't tell if he was running into the locker room because his knee was like shredded in half, or it was just because he had to piss. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because that's kind of how he always runs. He always runs like he's got a full bladder and half an ACL.

Speaker 4 So I'll say something nice about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 When you look at the Packers' defense, They're statistically not that, that bad, but this is one of those cases where if you have an all-world quarterback, they can kind of hide a lot of the deficiencies.

Speaker 4 And this is like, you know, when you have a guy like Aaron Rodgers, you're going to have leads, and you're not going to have to worry about, you know, getting the ball shoved down your throat time and time again when you're up 14 points because Aaron Rodgers is that good.

Speaker 4 So I just think this is the same Packers team as last year, where Aaron Rodgers is that good. His wide receivers are pretty good, too.

Speaker 4 I mean, Devontae Adams should be in the conversation for top wide receiver in the NFL. And their defense, when push comes to shove, can be had.

Speaker 5 And Phillip Rivers tried his hardest to chargers this up at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 There was like 17 flags.

Speaker 5 So they had nine holding calls on the Colts. Unreal.
Which is crazy because they don't call holding this year. Right.

Speaker 5 Roderick Dell was like, hey, you guys went too woke, so we're going to have to get our ratings up this year or else people will blame it on us having Black Lives Matter in the end zone.

Speaker 5 So he's telling his refs not to call holding anywhere. And they had nine holding calls.
I think they had like four or five holding calls on one drive

Speaker 4 at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 It was pretty bad. And then if Aaron Rodgers doesn't hit that like 50-yard bomb into double coverage or triple coverage, was that to Valdez Scantling? Yeah.
Out of his own end zone?

Speaker 5 If he doesn't just put that on

Speaker 4 Rodgers' drive at the end to even get it into overtime. But

Speaker 4 the Colts do deserve a lot of credit for their halftime adjustments. They came out and it felt like the game was going to get away from them and they brought it all the way back to themselves.

Speaker 4 They did what they had to do. They played great defense and they ran the ball.
And

Speaker 4 a very good, hard-earned win for the Colts that I think puts them in the

Speaker 4 watch-out category. The watch-out.
Yeah, they're just

Speaker 5 in the watch-out category.

Speaker 4 The watch-out category. Raiders are in the watch-out.
That's a good call. Raiders are definitely.
So if we're talking strictly AFC.

Speaker 5 AFC, yeah. Raiders, Titans, Titans.
In the watchout,

Speaker 5 because Tractor Cito.

Speaker 4 I think the Dolphins could be in the watch out. Okay.

Speaker 4 They're borderline. And then, so above the watchout is like the Bills, the Steelers.

Speaker 4 right we know that they're good yeah right right right right those teams the browns might be a watch out yeah i i'd like to see the browns play in um

Speaker 4 like not a hailstorm well they're going to jacksonville next week so the weather will probably follow them it will be a typhoon or whatever that'd be sick if stefanski figured out how to how to like do cloud seating and make all the grapple follow them everywhere yeah so they're in the watch out they are officially in the watch out i don't know who would be in the watch out in the nfc the nfc is a a little more straightforward, isn't it?

Speaker 5 Cardinals?

Speaker 4 Cardinals would be in the watchout. I think the Rams, everyone's kind of watching out for them, right? Yeah.
The Vikings flirted with the watchout, and then they lost to the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 I think the Vikings are still in the watchout category.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, I mean, see, like, the Bucs, the Saints, the Packers, and the Seahawks and Rams. I feel like those are all the teams that are like, we just know they're good.
Yeah. It's going to be.

Speaker 4 I don't want to keep saying nice things about the Packers because I think the Bears are going to beat them next Sunday, and then the Bears are going to all all of a sudden whole NFC North lost this weekend on the Bears by.

Speaker 4 Just saying,

Speaker 4 if you're talking about, you know, repping your division, you kind of need the Bears to be there.

Speaker 4 But the

Speaker 4 I even lost.

Speaker 4 Oh, the NFC is so wide open that when I call the Packers frauds, like, I don't think there's a team that like the 49ers last year, maybe the Bucs, maybe the Saints, maybe the Saints will turn into that team with their defense.

Speaker 5 The 49ers could also be a watchout team.

Speaker 4 They could be a watchout.

Speaker 5 I still feel like the 49ers could beat a lot of teams on any given Sunday in the NFC.

Speaker 4 But that would be the only benefit to the Packers.

Speaker 4 The Saints, I would say, are the Saints. And I guess Monday Night Football will tell us a lot, but the Saints feel like the most dominant team right now in the NFC, wouldn't you say? Yes.

Speaker 4 And the team that's put it all together, which very weird because they don't have their quarterback. Hmm.

Speaker 4 Maybe that helps. And just broke another rip.

Speaker 5 So was Drew Brees a system quarterback? He just broke another. That's what we're seeing.

Speaker 4 And then another rip. All right, let's go to Deion real quick.
We have actually some great insight on offense versus defense. We didn't talk about the Steelers.
Steelers-Jaguars.

Speaker 4 I didn't write it down. Steelers-Jaguars-Jaguars.

Speaker 5 Mapletron is a monster. I also love that nickname for Chase Claypool.

Speaker 4 Yep. Deontay Johnson, also a monster.

Speaker 5 Chase Claypool is on the fast track to becoming the best Canadian football player of all time.

Speaker 4 Would you put him in your baby brawn category?

Speaker 5 He's been baby brawn for like the last two months.

Speaker 5 I don't know if Braun would go to the lengths of crediting a Steelers wide receiver because he's a Browns fan and a Cowboys fan, and the Steelers are traditionally those two teams' biggest rivals.

Speaker 5 Yep. So I don't,

Speaker 5 I'm not calling him baby Braun. Yep.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 Jake Lutton,

Speaker 4 frame the jerseys, the game-worn jerseys. You know, tell your family about that.
Yeah. Tell your player kids about that.
Put that in your basement. That's actually a great.

Speaker 4 Think about it this way, Jake.

Speaker 4 Not many guys can have that as an accessory in their man cave. Yep.

Speaker 4 The jerseys of your game-worn NFL experience that I think probably ended today. You always have that spin move.
The spin move, yeah.

Speaker 5 For always and forever. Now, a fun little thing about this game: when you Google Jaguars-Steelers score, it takes you to 45-42.

Speaker 4 Jaguars are the Steelers.

Speaker 5 Blake Bortle has lit the world on fire that day. Yes.

Speaker 4 And the Jags, credit to the Jags, they were up 3-0 in this game.

Speaker 4 They were up 3-0. They lost 27-3, but they were up 3-0.
So the Steelers keep taking care of business.

Speaker 5 That's what you have to say when they beat an inferior opponent. Yeah.
And they just win.

Speaker 4 And they actually did, like, the Cowboys game that they had where they could have easily lost. That was like, what the hell, Steelers? Get it together.
This one was strictly taking care of business.

Speaker 5 Is there any part of you that thinks that the Steelers are going to go 16-0?

Speaker 4 Let's take a look. Let's see.
I think

Speaker 5 my gut says no. So they've got the Ravens on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 I think the Colts will be a problem game.

Speaker 4 And I think maybe at the Bills are going to be a problem game.

Speaker 4 The Ravens, at the Bills, and the Colts.

Speaker 4 I am tough.

Speaker 4 I feel like you'd want to lose one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is the toughest part of their schedule right now. Don't

Speaker 4 maybe not lose one, though, because there's only one buy. I don't know what the tiebreakers are.
We need a tiebreaker. Jake, for Wednesday, we need tiebreakers.

Speaker 4 We'll have a full tiebreaker conversation because let's watch the Bucs Bucs Rams game and try to figure out off that. But let's do a full breakdown of tiebreakers.

Speaker 5 Conference opponents, I want to say, is the first one.

Speaker 4 Also, just a reminder, it's Thanksgiving week, so we won't have a show Friday. We'll have an extra long show on Wednesday for everyone that you can stop.

Speaker 4 We'll give you a point in time where you can stop it and start it on Friday if you have to work. But if you do have to work after, if you have to go into work on Thanksgiving on that Friday

Speaker 5 during a pandemic. That's time theft season.
You just

Speaker 5 work as little as you possibly can on that.

Speaker 4 You know what we'll do is we'll tape something on Wednesday that will just be a giant fuck you to your boss that you can play that will not get you in trouble because you didn't say it, but we said it.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 we'll have a whole thing that you can just, on Friday morning, you can walk by your boss's office and we'll just be motherfucking that fat fuck.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so just accidentally disconnect your Bluetooth from your phone when you're walking by. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're going to put that into Wednesday show.

Speaker 4 Well, I assume if he's making you work on Friday, he's got low testosterone. He's probably fat.
He's probably hates himself.

Speaker 4 That kind of thing. You know, that's a self-loathing move to make someone work on a Friday.

Speaker 5 After Thanksgiving in a pandemic.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah.
Yeah. So we'll get, we'll get that set for you.
All right. So let's get to Dion PFT.
Before we do Dion,

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Speaker 4 All right, Deion Sanders.

Speaker 4 All right. He is back.
It is Coach Prime on a Sunday night to talk a little football, what we saw this weekend. Where do you want to start? It was kind of a crazy weekend.
It was, you know, the

Speaker 4 weekend.

Speaker 11 I'm not happy with this weekend.

Speaker 11 I can't stand the Detroit Lions ever since I came out of college. I can't stand them.
I can't.

Speaker 11 Yes. I really can't.

Speaker 4 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 11 I can't stand the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 11 I'm glad we would never have to hear another word out of you or Dave from

Speaker 11 the New England Patriots. That's over.
Okay. I'm starting to really hear you clearly now

Speaker 11 about Baltimore. I can hear.
I can hear now. Okay.
I wasn't able to hear, but I can hear now.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 Let's start with the Patriots because I agree with you.

Speaker 4 I got incepted by Dave telling me that they were going to make a run here. And I thought, oh, Belichick, they're going to do it.

Speaker 4 But I think we need to give a lot of credit to Deshaun Watson for having a hell of a game. And

Speaker 4 that team's bad. That team's bad.

Speaker 4 So if you're bad, having the hope of a good quarterback like Deshaun Watson, like that's a game, even though it doesn't mean anything to the Texans, I think it does mean something for the franchise to be like, oh, yeah, we still have Deshaun.

Speaker 11 I like who he is. I like what he stands for.
I like his professionalism. I've never seen him out of character.
I like everything about the kid. I don't like that

Speaker 11 the coach that was fired. He should be banned for at least two years for even trading the receiver Hopkins.
To DeAndre Hopkins, he should be banned for two years for making that trade.

Speaker 11 But this kid is unbelievable. But New England, man, that's pathetic.
Like,

Speaker 11 that does not make any sense whatsoever.

Speaker 5 What do you think the problem is in New England? Is it, I mean, I think there are plenty of fingers to be pointed to go around up there.

Speaker 5 I don't think it's all on Cam, but I think we can say without a doubt that Cam does not look like the Cam that we've seen in the past, like officially.

Speaker 5 He's no longer

Speaker 4 MVP. True.

Speaker 11 True, but they gave up 27 points. Like,

Speaker 11 normally New England scores 20. They're winning.
You don't give up 27. New England don't give up 27.
I mean, the Houston.

Speaker 4 Come on. And,

Speaker 11 you know, just continuing to this

Speaker 4 Baltimore.

Speaker 11 This is a whole defensive thing. When Baltimore gives up 30 to Tennessee, that's a problem, man.
Like, this was once a year ago, and it has to be,

Speaker 11 give me his name. I'm going blank right now.
The big guy that came from Jacksonville in the

Speaker 4 Lais Campbell.

Speaker 11 It has to be the absence of Galais Campbell because there's no way you give up 30 to Tennessee.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And Lamar

Speaker 5 said after the game that it was an effort problem, that they just, they didn't want it as much.

Speaker 5 And to me, when I heard that, I heard him saying that about the defense, that the defense just just didn't want to tackle. You saw it on that A.J.

Speaker 5 Brown touchdown catch and on the Derrick Henry run in overtime. Now, if you're a defensive player on that team, has Lamar earned the right to say that

Speaker 5 the effort level wasn't acceptable?

Speaker 11 Yeah, he's the MVP. He has C on his chest.
They earned the right. When they put that C on your chest, you earned the right to do whatever you want.

Speaker 11 He's earned that right, and they respect the heck out of Lamar. The problem is, not only that, their running game, when they were balling and getting to the second

Speaker 11 round in the playoffs that they got to,

Speaker 11 they run the football, man. The history of the Baltimore Ravens have always been running the football and stopping the run.

Speaker 11 They're not that team anymore. And I don't, they got to get a, they got to go into the draft, man, and get a receiver or go into free agency and get a real one.

Speaker 4 They got to get a real one. I agree.
That is definitely a problem. And it was so close to what I've always been saying about Lamar is I want to see him win a game where he has to throw down late.

Speaker 4 And they got all the way down there almost, you know, it was like a third and six, and they had been killing the Titans all day on third down, and they just couldn't do it. And I just, yeah,

Speaker 4 that team, it feels like they've fallen back in the pack in what is now an AFC that that Colts win was impressive. The Steelers are 10-0, and people are still being like doubting the Steelers.

Speaker 4 And the Bills obviously were on a buy, and and then you get the Chiefs tonight. Like, the AFC is pretty stacked at the top.

Speaker 11 They are, and I hate to say it,

Speaker 11 and I got to give, and I hate, boy, I hate giving Dave credit. God, I hate giving Dave credit.

Speaker 4 Don't do it, then

Speaker 11 this is a game that tour.

Speaker 11 I was waiting.

Speaker 4 Like, come on, like, come on now.

Speaker 11 You're going to have to throw it. You're going to have to, come on now.

Speaker 11 And the Dolphins just, they just couldn't get over that hump. But you said, and I give, I'm going to give you credit.
You said you like

Speaker 11 the Dern Broncos.

Speaker 4 Well, you did. That was, it was, I feel like we were waiting for that to a game where everything wasn't perfect for him.

Speaker 4 And Brian Flores said afterwards, because there was a question of whether he was injured or not, he said, no, I benched him. And Fitzpatrick almost did it.

Speaker 4 Let's, so they just actually just showed this highlight on the TV.

Speaker 4 What the hell does Philadelphia do with Carson Wentz?

Speaker 11 What I've been telling you all year, from day one, honestly. And And I'm not, this is not a, I told you so situation.

Speaker 11 This is a athlete knowing another athlete and an athlete like myself talking to other athletes that I know that's there.

Speaker 11 This is not the guy.

Speaker 4 Interesting is not the guy.

Speaker 5 So would you put, would you go to Hurts already? Just cut your losses and say, let's see what the new guy's got?

Speaker 11 If you think he could possibly be that guy, what you're going to get if you stay with Wentz, you're going to get a division, pretty much what you already have.

Speaker 11 You have some guys in the locker room say, hey, man, this ain't working, partner. You can at least get the other kid a shot because this ain't working.

Speaker 11 He is not the guy. You can't just try to justify because you made a mistake and paid him a ton of money, which you're going to probably get out of that contract as soon as you can.

Speaker 11 But you got to, to be able to salvage that team in a horrific division that you probably can still win, you got to get away from that kid.

Speaker 4 So that's interesting because I've always thought this, and you can tell us whether it's a fact or not.

Speaker 4 But in an NFL locker room, we always think, you know, growing sports growing up or playing sports growing up, you're like, oh, yeah, well, my teammates are my friends, and everyone gets along.

Speaker 4 But in the NFL, when it's 53 guys and it's offense, defense, offense and defense don't really

Speaker 4 like talk or get along. It's kind of, you guys are kind of like working for the same company, but different floors, right?

Speaker 11 Exactly. Well stated, well said.

Speaker 11 um that's really what it is but you do recognize the people on the other floor is because if the elevator is broken and they've had something to do with it you cannot move or you cannot leave if that elevator ain't working right and so

Speaker 4 you like the defensive from a defensive perspective when you're playing like you know do you at least you you recognize okay these guys this guy this guy this guy they're dogs but when it comes to like if the offense isn't holding up their end of the bargain, there's real division that can happen and vice versa.

Speaker 11 You get upset at the offensive coaches, you get upset at the offensive players, and you really don't talk to them a lot.

Speaker 11 But on game day, you just sat down from a long drive and here goes three and out. So that's the, or you sat down on the long drive.
Okay, here goes sudden change.

Speaker 11 He's throwing a pick and you got to go right back out. He's like, you got to be kidding me.
Man, won't y'all make a change? Because on defense, you're going against the backup or even the third guy.

Speaker 11 You see some kind of hope and some promise because this guy has to give you a great look all week. So you kind of become a fan of the backups because you see them the most.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 5 Interesting. I want to talk to you, athlete to athlete, because I don't know if you caught on Thursday night football, but another athlete was talking about you as an athlete.

Speaker 5 That was your old teammate, Troy Aikman. And

Speaker 5 he was talking about

Speaker 5 Jalen Ramsey and how he kind of put the clamps on DK Metcalf. And he said that when he was playing against you,

Speaker 5 even if you were the guy that was supposed to be taking away one side of the field, he would still look for Michael Irvin. And Michael Irvin was still going to catch some balls on you.

Speaker 5 First of all, did you feel disrespected that Troy put you out there and said, I was still going to go at Deion because our playmaker was going to make plays at him?

Speaker 5 Secondly, looking forward to Monday night,

Speaker 5 do you see Tom Brady kind of giving that same respect to Jalen Ramsey and staying away from Mike Evans?

Speaker 11 First of all, Troy did not say that.

Speaker 11 I watched the game, but that's the way to twist his words and try to make us go against each other he said i was gonna pick on deon yeah and he texted me this week by the way you know we check on each other all the time but good job he's he did not say that thank you for trying to imply that he said that but what he did say his guy michael irvin if it was one-on-one he was gonna go to Michael Irving because it's one-on-one.

Speaker 11 You got to go to that guy if they're supposed to be that dog. A couple of weeks ago,

Speaker 11 we was talking about, or Dan was talking about Metcalf, and I said, no, he's not ready for that.

Speaker 11 If you're one, one, you're supposed to be able to beat that opposing team's dog, and that's Jalen Ramsey. He's not at that level yet.
He's going to get there, but he's not at that level as of yet.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 4 So you're basically saying the best offense should always beat the best defense.

Speaker 11 No, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 One of the reasons I love the Rams.

Speaker 11 One of the reasons I love the Rams so much is that they got a grown man up front that's going to take two people to block him and Aaron Donald.

Speaker 11 And then they got a guy on the back end that can go one-on-one with your best receiver and take him out of the game. That really disarms and disables a dern offense.

Speaker 11 That's why it's going to be interesting tonight. But the best thing about Tampa Bay, they have three guys, or really two,

Speaker 11 really two guys that are number one caliber receivers.

Speaker 4 Who? So wait,

Speaker 4 who are you putting before?

Speaker 4 Who are you taking out? Mike Evans and AB.

Speaker 11 Mike Evans and AB.

Speaker 4 Whoa, Chris Godwin. What about Chris Godwin? No, no, no.
He's not a one. He's definitely not a one.

Speaker 11 He's a Robin. He's not Batman, but he's a Robin.

Speaker 4 Okay. And Gronk

Speaker 4 and Gronk.

Speaker 11 No, Gronk. Gronk is like a three now.

Speaker 4 Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 So what about Thanksgiving this week?

Speaker 5 Because you used to play on Thanksgiving all the time. I've always wondered

Speaker 5 more than anything. You loved it, but what's the meal situation like on Thanksgiving when it comes to playing out with the family and all that?

Speaker 11 First of all, you hope you win because it's going to be rough if you lose and the family's there and everybody wants to celebrate and you're not in the mood for it. So you want to win.

Speaker 11 That's one thing. And we always played it at home because we're during Cowboys.
So that was good having everybody at home, but you really want to win so the Thanksgiving food is a little better.

Speaker 5 Did you ever lose on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 11 I don't believe we did. I don't recall losing on Thanksgiving.
We might have, but I don't recall it.

Speaker 4 You black that out.

Speaker 4 I like that. I always, I mean, it is the best.
Football on Thanksgiving, there's nothing better. So I had one last question.

Speaker 4 The NFC East. This game now becomes

Speaker 4 huge on Thanksgiving Day because PFT's Washington football team, your Dallas Cowboys, they are now tied for second. There's a three-way tie for second.
The Eagles still somehow in first place.

Speaker 4 Doug Peterson, a genius for tying that game. So who wins the NFC East? And do you think the Cowboys might have a little life to them?

Speaker 11 The Cowboys will have a lot of life now

Speaker 11 i'm gonna tell you something you need to look out for man i don't know the kid's name maybe you can enlighten me but the backup running back for the cowboys tony pollard is oh my goodness he's putting some pressure on zeke isn't he uh-huh yeah like yeah he was good last year too

Speaker 11 yeah like this kid is is getting in there and he's hitting it He's really hitting it. I'm happy with Andy Dalton and what he did today.
He almost choked it to go. Didn't he?

Speaker 4 He almost threw a pick and it would have been over. Yes.

Speaker 11 But got another chance. I was like, oh, good job.
Good job. But

Speaker 11 I feel as though the Cowboys have a better shot at it than the Eagles if the Eagles stay with Wentz.

Speaker 4 It's actually as terrible as the NFC East has been, I'm actually so happy that the Washington football team and the Cowboys won this week and the Giants have been playing well.

Speaker 4 It's an exciting, as bad as it is, it's an exciting home stretch that all four teams can win this division.

Speaker 5 Everyone's got three wins. Let's do a mare's bet, Deion.
You want to bet on the game on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 11 I don't bet.

Speaker 5 You don't bet. You won't bet me just straight up?

Speaker 4 You don't bet.

Speaker 11 You know, we could do like hat merchandise or something like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 Football team wins. Syndicate cowboy hat.

Speaker 11 I wore my hat, and you guys said nothing about it. I gave you guys love.
I wore my hat. I wore your hat on the football, football show.

Speaker 4 I said something the minute you sat down. You wore the PMT football guy hat.
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you did.
Yeah, I did. I said, yeah, hell yeah.
You're part of that podcast.

Speaker 11 You said nothing about it. But, you know, I thought we were family.

Speaker 4 I understand. We are family.
And I said something. I absolutely said something.
All right. So if the Washington football team wins, you send me a cowboy hat.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 What do I get?

Speaker 5 If the Cowboys win, I'll send you this bowling ball.

Speaker 4 The Pardon My Take Bowling Ball.

Speaker 4 I know what I want.

Speaker 11 I want a duplicate pair of your shades.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 4 I'll send you a pair of sunglasses. Done.
Done. Done.
We actually have our own shades. Yeah.
Pardon my take shades. Perfect.

Speaker 11 Yeah, thanks for telling me now.

Speaker 4 We got you. We stole them.
We got you. When I was there.

Speaker 11 Had I known, I would have stole a pair.

Speaker 4 We got you.

Speaker 5 Deion, real quick, how much do you bench right now?

Speaker 11 That's a good question. I'm pretty strong.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I want to tell you that.

Speaker 4 More than 285?

Speaker 11 In college, I benched 340.

Speaker 4 Whoa. Wow.
As a

Speaker 4 DB. Damn.
Wow.

Speaker 4 That's impressive.

Speaker 11 I guarantee you, if I go in the weight room right now, you know what?

Speaker 4 Let's see.

Speaker 11 I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
I'm just going to show you what's what's on the bar.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's fair. I think that's a good one to do it.
I'm going to show you what's on the bar.

Speaker 11 Because you see what's on the bar, you'll say, man, that's what he plays around with?

Speaker 4 Because our intern, Billy Football, who played football, who's 21 prime of his life,

Speaker 4 he's hovering around 285, which is kind of embarrassing. Oh, you got three plates on there.
Oh, you got two. You got two.
But that's just one.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's 225. Yeah, you're rapping.
I'm doing rap. That's 225.

Speaker 4 But I'm telling you, I'm rapping that.

Speaker 11 So if I'm rapping that, that should tell you where I am.

Speaker 4 Yeah, pretty easy.

Speaker 5 He's pretty good.

Speaker 4 Easy. Yeah, easy over 300.
No question.

Speaker 5 He's also double your age, Billy.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 11 How we got to bring up age.

Speaker 4 Well, because

Speaker 4 our intern's 22 and 21, and he thinks that he thinks he's a younger stallion, but he's not.

Speaker 5 He's weak. My little stallion.
Very weak.

Speaker 4 Little Sibilli. Very weak.
Yeah. And we've already established that.

Speaker 11 That Dan could be my son.

Speaker 4 Yes, I could, actually, which is great. Well, so is PFT.
Well, PFT is a little younger than me. He's 26.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. PFT could definitely be one of my kids.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, you did play in DC for a while.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there you go. Yep, I did.
And PFT has fast twitch muscles. I do.

Speaker 11 You know what? I saw that when I dunked on him.

Speaker 4 You did not dunk on him.

Speaker 5 I dunked on you.

Speaker 4 Now you're completely fake news in this right now, Dion. I love it.

Speaker 4 All right. Well, Dion, thank you as always.
We'll see you this week. All right.
Appreciate it, guys. All right, man.
See you. Love you too.

Speaker 4 Okay, thanks to Dion.

Speaker 4 Let's do some Football Guy of the Week. Football Guy of the Week presented by Philip.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's going on there, pal?

Speaker 7 We saw you at the hockey game on.

Speaker 2 Do I know you guys?

Speaker 1 I'm Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 2 I got a drink named after me.

Speaker 3 Not a big deal. Pink Whitney?

Speaker 4 That's what I thought.

Speaker 5 See you, fellas.

Speaker 3 I invented the thing, you pigeon.

Speaker 4 Pink Whitney for legendary moments.

Speaker 4 Jake, Football Guy of the Week, presented by Philip Snoroko, One Blade.

Speaker 9 All right, first off, disclaimer. I've been helping you guys with this for nearly two full seasons.
This was the toughest week to dwindle it down to four selections.

Speaker 5 But I feel feel like there's a runaway winner.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yes.
If you're thinking about the same guy. And specifically, St.

Speaker 9 John's Catholic in Maryland head coach Daryl Hayes, who suffered an in-game heart attack, coached through it and survived. He was the most recommended.

Speaker 4 My DMs blew up all week. I mean,

Speaker 4 he literally had a full heart attack and just kept on coaching. Right.

Speaker 5 And yeah, the best part about that was his coordinators were saying the only thing that I noticed that was different was he was a little bit calmer during the game. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So we knew something was wrong. Something about his mints, too.

Speaker 9 He needed his mints.

Speaker 5 He needed more. He thought that he had indigestion.
He thought it was just, he needed tums.

Speaker 5 I'm going to tumbs my way out of this heart attack.

Speaker 4 He really does think like open heart surgery to him is like, all right, tums and rolling.

Speaker 5 That's just guy stuff because I don't know about you guys, but whenever any part of the internal areas of my body feel any sort of discomfort, Tums is the first thing that you go to.

Speaker 5 You got to reach for the Tums.

Speaker 5 Also, this guy can use this as a lot of motivation moving forward because he can go to his players and do the best football guy thing, which is be like, you guys are giving me a heart attack out there.

Speaker 5 Yep. You got to play harder or else you're going to kill me.

Speaker 4 Yep. Literally kill me.

Speaker 9 So that'll be the heavy favorite.

Speaker 4 Next day so.

Speaker 9 PFT, you tweeted this out yesterday. Abilene Christian offensive line coach Mason Height

Speaker 9 allowed his offensive line to rip off his sleeve.

Speaker 4 It literally translates to brick wall. They scored a touchdown.
What did he do?

Speaker 9 He allowed his offensive line to rip off his sleeves after the team scored a touchdown.

Speaker 4 I love it.

Speaker 5 It was a pretty cool look. Like, they just went over to the sidelines and just ripped it off for him.
Love it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 9 The next one was Billy Recommendation. The Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College team, they tried bringing out a chainsaw out of the locker room ahead of their game versus Jones College.

Speaker 4 Did they bring it out?

Speaker 4 The officials did not. We were like, no, because Oregon State has a chainsaw without the chain on it.
Turnover chains. Turnover chains on it.

Speaker 5 Fuck those refs. You're not going to let the team bring out a chainsaw.
I thought this was America.

Speaker 4 That's bullshit.

Speaker 5 It's called the Second Amendment.

Speaker 9 And then this last one is kind of a playing game you guys want us to discuss on the air.

Speaker 9 It's between Army head coach Jeff Monkin, who has brought to tears while talking about his seniors athletes team's win over Georgia Southern,

Speaker 9 or the Vikings long snapper Andrew DePaula, who tore both ACLs with the Raiders in two different seasons and made his way back to the NFL.

Speaker 5 I got to go with the Army football coach.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love the Army football coach. He's got the troops.
Yes.

Speaker 4 That guy.

Speaker 4 Who wouldn't want to play for that guy?

Speaker 5 It's a big-time football guy move to just cry about your guys.

Speaker 4 Did you guys see, by the way, this isn't football guy, this is just more classically Rutgers, the Rutgers kicker? Did you see that at the end of the game?

Speaker 9 The fantasy FUCC boy.

Speaker 4 What's his name?

Speaker 4 Salvador or something.

Speaker 4 Oh, fuck. I'm going to go find it.
It was so funny. They trotted this kid out, and he had no chance of making this kick.

Speaker 4 Rutgers could have beat Michigan, and they trotted him out. You're like, oh, this kid doesn't want to be here.
And then they flashed his name. And I was like, holy fucking shit.

Speaker 4 New Jersey, you have done it again. What was his name? I'm looking.
It was something Ambrosia.

Speaker 4 Something Ambrosia.

Speaker 5 Looking up right now.

Speaker 4 Valentino. Valentino Ambrosia.
Valentino Ambrosio.

Speaker 4 I mean, remember, they had Nunzio Campanelli as their coach last year. Fucking Ruckers.
Love it.

Speaker 4 All right, so that's Philip Snorocco, One Blade, Football Guy of the Week. Go vote.
We'll have the poll and the blog.

Speaker 4 All right, let's do.

Speaker 4 I'll do college football as my who's back so we can talk it about then. Let's quickly do Baby braun of the week.
Nominees. We'll also vote on this.
So everyone can throw in one, and you get to decide.

Speaker 4 So it's baby brawn. LeBron has just decided to start calling people baby brawn.

Speaker 5 He just plants his flag in athletes that are showing promise.

Speaker 4 Right, which is essentially just a compliment to himself.

Speaker 5 He claims them as

Speaker 5 being smaller, eventually larger versions of himself. Yes.

Speaker 4 Hank, who's your baby braun of the week?

Speaker 10 We talked about it earlier, but Deshaun Watson. Yep.
I also, I'll put Megan Thee Stallion on there, too. Okay.
Had a great performance at the AMAs.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.
Who's your baby brother?

Speaker 5 My baby brown of the week is George Clooney

Speaker 5 because LeBron James started a tequila company. Oh, and so he's looking to cash in big time.

Speaker 4 Also, Michael Imperioli. That's right.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I love those commercials. We're like, hey, fuckhead.

Speaker 4 I'm Christopher.

Speaker 5 Why are you drinking pussy shit that doesn't pour yourself a shot, bitch?

Speaker 4 Don't be an idiot and drink vodka and sit on a dog.

Speaker 4 Hey, drink this tequila. Look at that.
That's your problem.

Speaker 5 You can't. Does your tequila fit into the cup holder in your car so you can chug it while you're driving 95 miles an hour?

Speaker 5 And then Tony will cover up your nose when he sees that you've got the tequila. Whoa,

Speaker 4 spoiler.

Speaker 5 So, yeah. So, LeBron, he moved up to the hard stuff.
He's off wine right now. And he's got a tequila company because I guess he needed higher alcohol content in the stuff that he was drinking.

Speaker 5 So, it's probably smart. There's fewer calories in tequila.
Yeah. So, he's going to save a little bit of weight, but also get drunker.
So, congrats, LeBron.

Speaker 4 Nice. My baby Braun of the Week.
I actually am surprised he hasn't baby brawned this person already, but it has to be Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 He's got to baby brawn the best football player. Right.
Just so he can

Speaker 4 be like, yeah, that's baby. When you think of Patrick Mahomes, who do you think of?

Speaker 5 LeBron James. What if he baby brawned every quarterback that was taken in that draft besides Mitch Trabisch?

Speaker 4 Come on, baby. You can have it.

Speaker 4 Come on.

Speaker 4 Do you have a baby brawn? Yeah, I got a baby brawn.

Speaker 4 This is the same baby brawn. No, there's a dude who's make a little baby bronze.
Like baby Yoda? Yeah. Dude, that would go viral.
Dude, we should put a little baby brand.

Speaker 5 What we should do, we should make, we should get a little figurine and put a diaper on it.

Speaker 5 And then that'll be our baby braun statue. We'll mail it to whoever

Speaker 5 was breaking puppets. Back in the day, Kobe R.I.P.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Lil Penny Hardaway.
Lil Penny was a graveyard. Baby Braun, baby.
Mine was this dude saved a puppy from an alligator.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can't watch that video.

Speaker 5 No, but he keeps the cigar in his mouth.

Speaker 4 I know I can't do it.

Speaker 4 That guy's that guy. I agree with Billy.
That guy's baby Braun. He's baby Braun the alligator.
Yeah, but I can't. Can you?

Speaker 4 I can't watch videos where like a dog, even if I know the dog is okay, I can't watch those videos.

Speaker 5 It was tough. It was tough.

Speaker 4 It makes me like squirm.

Speaker 5 The only reason that I could watch it is because the guy exuded such powerful fluorida energy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was like emerging out of a swamp wearing nothing but jean shorts and smoking a like a swisher star. He doesn't drop the cigar.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Somehow

Speaker 5 somehow the cigar is still lit and he's still smoking it as he emerges from a bog. Yes.
It's just fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 All right. Who's back of the week to finish up? Hank.

Speaker 10 I have a couple who's back of the weeks. The first one is our NC Dinos.

Speaker 4 Oh. Yeah, that's right.
Do we win it all?

Speaker 10 They are in the Korean World Series tonight at 3.30.

Speaker 4 The series is tied 2-2.

Speaker 5 I'll be watching. Best of

Speaker 10 seven or five.

Speaker 4 Hardly seven, maybe nine.

Speaker 5 And 17. So Swole Daddy is making an appearance tonight somewhere.

Speaker 10 My other who's back of the week is Michael Jordan, the GM. Yeah.
Gave Gordon Hayward $120 million.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 10 Which is probably his worst free agent signing yet. So, you know, good talking.

Speaker 4 I like it, though. He's the greatest, worst GM.

Speaker 5 But I like his commitment to the fact that he will never have anybody on his team that will ever be compared to him.

Speaker 10 Well, and this one is like

Speaker 10 they tried to sign him back in the day. They signed him to an offer sheet, and then Utah matched it.
And then Gordon Hayward, his knee exploded. But I think it was like a Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 he had already committed to Gordon Hayward baby wants baby gets and then he was like fuck it we gotta have him that's a that's an old school Gar Pax move when they tried to draft Chris Dunn and then they traded for him after he had shown that he sucked they're like we still want this guy where

Speaker 4 forget the forget we we've done all this work on this we've we've analyzed this draft prospect we need to use this this paperwork somehow all right who's your who's back my who's back of the week is salty dabo salty dabo swunny's back big time.

Speaker 5 He's mad that COVID is so high in the BCS rankings right now, or in the FCS rankings,

Speaker 5 because I guess Florida State had a player that tested positive for him.

Speaker 4 Clemson did.

Speaker 5 No, Florida State did, right? No, it was Clemson. Clemson had a player.

Speaker 9 He's a Citizens player and you practice asymptotic all week.

Speaker 5 Okay, and then they went to the game, and then Florida State's medical team said, no, we're not going to agree to play this game. They probably could have rescheduled, right?

Speaker 4 We're getting down there, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 So Dabo was like, I think y'all just scared.

Speaker 4 He called it a forfeit.

Speaker 5 Yeah, basically, Dabo, if he's not coaching football, he's just saying y'all scared to somebody.

Speaker 4 We were saying it like, so my who's back is college football, so we can talk about all of this.

Speaker 4 Dabo

Speaker 4 is so hyper-focused on getting the college football playoff that he's just not, he can't, I don't even blame him for being a psycho anymore because

Speaker 4 that's all he wants. That's all he thinks about.
Yeah. It's everything to him.

Speaker 5 Well, he firmly believes believes that the safest place in the world, no matter what is going on, is on a football field.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I kind of understand why, but he immediately leapt to the fact that Florida State is scared of playing Clemson. That's why they're declining to play the game.
And I think he's right.

Speaker 5 I think Florida State was scared of playing Clemson.

Speaker 4 Even Sabin has just enough human being in him where you're like, okay.

Speaker 4 He's a human. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dabbo's got none of them. No, Dabbo doesn't have any of them.
He's got none of them. This was, if I'm Florida State, this is the best excuse possible to not take this.

Speaker 4 Oh, they would have gotten

Speaker 4 their ship pushed in. And it would have been a great, like, because they do the old, like, clemson,

Speaker 4 you know, competes for the same recruits as Florida State. So they really try to run it up.
Yep. All right.
Other college football stuff. Wisconsin lost to Northwestern.
That sucked.

Speaker 4 Nine punts in the third quarter. Nine.
That game made me despise football.

Speaker 5 Between that and watching the Bears bears on was that monday night yeah monday night i should get like a medal all your teams i should get a medal are just liable to play the most boring brand of football of all time terrible and you know what i thought about it afterwards because obviously darren revell was very happy uh verbal meme alonzo morning darren revell celebrating northwestern win Mike Greenberg celebrating Northwestern win.

Speaker 5 Nice to see Greeny really excited about that.

Speaker 4 Green is going to the worst.

Speaker 5 Greeny is going to wear this on us. He's probably going to get...

Speaker 5 Every time Northwestern beats a ranked team, I'm sure that he gets like a temporary tattoo on his body because he can't go full speed with it and get actual ink done.

Speaker 4 I got to get, I got to rant a little bit for a second because I just cannot stand Northwestern fans. Pat Fitzgerald is an awesome coach.
He has made Northwestern a legitimate program.

Speaker 4 They are a good program. They don't have like last year they sucked.
This year they're back to being good. That's the sign of a good program.

Speaker 4 Unless you are Clemson, Alabama, or Ohio State, you're going to have down years, but the sign of a good coach and a good program is the down years don't last.

Speaker 4 They don't extend. You have a blip and then you're back.
Blip, then you're back. You're not four years where you suck.
That's Northwestern now.

Speaker 4 I don't understand how Northwestern fans, and I'm pretty much just talking about the blue check mark losers.

Speaker 5 White check marks.

Speaker 4 Yeah, white check marks, right? I'm just talking about them. So I'm not even talking about like my guy, White Sox Dave, who's a noted Northwestern alum who bleeds purple.

Speaker 4 You You can't do the, we're the little engine that could, we're the scrappy underdog. No one cares about Northwestern.

Speaker 4 And then also, like, every year be like, there's a program defining when you have, you're a ranked team. You're a ranked team.
You have a good football program. Peffitscherld is a very good coach.

Speaker 4 Stop pretending like every win is like, oh my God, we fucking,

Speaker 4 you know, shocked the world and we beat.

Speaker 4 You won the Big Ten West two years ago. The problem is.
Start acting like it.

Speaker 5 The problem is that the people that write about northwestern football are all people that graduated from northwestern and went there like 20 years ago and now they're in these like big prolific writing jobs where now they're looking through the lens of northwestern football as what it was like in the 90s and and it's going to take another 20 years for that to cycle in and out and then you're going to have a bunch of might i add uh discredited journalism graduates from northwestern that still probably won't be able to get it right i i actually think you were slapping pat fitzgerald in the face when you act like you won the Super Bowl after beating Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 Like, that's, you should expect.

Speaker 4 You guys have beaten us like, I don't know, six out of seven times in Evanston.

Speaker 4 I love Rachel Nichols. She's a friend of the program, but that was what tricked me when she's like, my brother went to Wisconsin.
He'll never get over this loss. Guess what?

Speaker 4 Wisconsin always loses a game like this every single year. That's what we do.
We are a slightly better program that always disappoints the fan base at the most inopportune time. That's what we do.

Speaker 5 Now, do you think that Pat Fitzgerald actually hates that element of the fan base that treats them like they should have?

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 5 You think he's pissed off that

Speaker 5 at night? He goes home. He's like, I just wish that I had slightly cooler people that rooted for me.

Speaker 4 No, I really do think that you get to a point where you have to start acting like, hey,

Speaker 4 Northwestern's a good team, coached very well.

Speaker 4 And yeah, they won't get the best recruits, but you can make up for it in coaching. And they've been like

Speaker 4 in the mix in the Big Ten West for a while now. So you can't, it's just, it's just stupid.
It just drives me insane. You can't have it both ways, Northwestern fans.

Speaker 4 Not every win can be this like shocking, huge upset. Act like you've been there, Ravel.
Do you think that

Speaker 4 you fucking went to Indianapolis two years ago to play Ohio State?

Speaker 5 Northwestern should have like an alternate school that they put right next door to their journalism program that's just like a troll academy to get their students and their eventual graduates used to just getting trolled by a bunch of shitheads.

Speaker 5 And then those people can also get the best seats at the football games, and then they can in turn become the loudest supporters of the team.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 5 And just like the shitheads that just comment fake news under every single report that those people are going to put out when they become grown journalists.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 5 Get them used to it. Get them used to getting bullied.
I'm going to use it. Have one period every day where you get bullied and you get put into a locker by a guy that's cooler than you.

Speaker 4 I'm just, I just, they were the better team. And yeah, you could say like, you know, Wisconsin didn't have their top three wide receivers.

Speaker 4 That probably mattered, and the refs were totally against them, but they were

Speaker 4 better team. All right, other quick college football hitters.

Speaker 4 Mike Gundy, go fuck yourself. Respectfully, punting in a rivalry game from the 40-yard line.
You don't punt in Bedlam. You don't punt in Bedlam.
Doesn't have to.

Speaker 4 And then throwing those two fades to ruin the over to everyone. Bedlam, by the way.

Speaker 4 There's some rivalries out there. Like, you think because Bedlam is Bedlam and it's fun and the colors, I think Oklahoma has won Bedlam like 84% of the time.
They just always win.

Speaker 4 Like, I saw a tweet before Bedlam started by a college football writer. I don't know who it was.
I apologize. But they were like, there are three outcomes tonight in Bedlam.
It's going to get wild.

Speaker 4 Either Oklahoma is going to win by a little, Oklahoma's going to win by a little bit more than a little, or Oklahoma's going to win by a lot. But

Speaker 9 18 to 18 to 1.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's 7. That's not rivalry, right? Like, that's.
And ask.

Speaker 5 If you were to go back like before 2000, when did Gundy get there? Like, 2006?

Speaker 4 Gundy's only beaten him twice.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so you go back before that, and there was probably even a longer stretch where it was shitty. I think the bedlam looks cooler when it's at Oklahoma State.
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 4 I think that the sky is what it's like.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the sky gets blacker in Stillwater. That just happens when you combine it with the orange on the field.
Like, the sky is so much cooler.

Speaker 5 The points are crazier, weirder plays, interceptions that turn into fumbles that turn into touchdowns. Like, crazy shit happens in Stillwater.
When it's in Norman,

Speaker 5 it's not as Bedlam-like. And I expect to win when I bet the over in Bedlam.
That's a tradition. I do it every year.
It should happen.

Speaker 9 And it should happen. Four times since 01.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So yikes.

Speaker 5 Before that, it was.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Mike Gundy, you lost a lot of respect for me on Saturday night.

Speaker 9 From 67 to 94, Oklahoma State won once.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 They tied once.

Speaker 5 That's bad. 92.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's bad. So Bedlam was disappointing.

Speaker 4 And I'm trying to think what other big games. Oh, Rutgers obviously trying everything they had in them.
I actually think Harbaugh might stay at Michigan, which is crazy to say.

Speaker 5 Well, Greg Sciano did everything that he could to get another tie so that he would end up at 69, 69, and 2, I think.

Speaker 5 When it went to three overtimes against Michigan.

Speaker 4 But he, yeah, Harbaugh's going to... probably beat Penn State, which is a cluster fuck.
Maybe beat Maryland, which, by the way, I want it on the record.

Speaker 4 I actually talked to our good friend Scott Van Pelt last night.

Speaker 4 I am officially saying that if Maryland beats Michigan, they're into the Big Ten in football. Wow.

Speaker 5 Okay, that's very big of you.

Speaker 4 It is on. What about they have to beat Michigan because

Speaker 4 you can't lose to Michigan when Michigan is this bad? Because that tells me that you still haven't gotten to that level. So that will be the biggest game in Maryland history.

Speaker 5 Penn State fans, would you take Bill O'Brien right now? Because you know Bill O'Brien's looking at that 0-5 record, and he's just rubbing his hands together. He's like, this is where I go back.

Speaker 5 Sometimes you've got to go back to move forward. No, I think.

Speaker 5 They're fed up with James Frank.

Speaker 4 I don't think they're fully fed up. Because remember, they won a Big Ten title.

Speaker 4 Essentially,

Speaker 4 in the Big Ten East, you just hope that you luck into a win against Ohio State every five or six years. And they've done that.

Speaker 4 This season is just like a wash for them.

Speaker 5 I think, so since it's 2020 and everything's fucked up, I think most good coaches have one of those in their back pocket where they can just be like, yeah, he's using it. It was a fucked up year.

Speaker 5 But even before this year, I don't think that Penn State fans were super excited about James Franklin anymore.

Speaker 4 Well, no, no, I think they, I think they're, I think it's, I think it's cautious. Like, he's annoying.
He's an annoying person. Right.

Speaker 5 So I think that's a good thing. But if you're annoying, you got to win.

Speaker 4 He's annoying, but they've still won relatively. Like, it's impossible to beat Ohio State.
They just, they don't, you can't beat Ohio State. Like, you just can't do it.

Speaker 4 Indiana, by the way, that's the other game I want to talk about.

Speaker 4 Credit to them because they tried to beat Ohio State.

Speaker 5 They're also a baby Braun of the Week.

Speaker 4 I love LeBron James. I love Tom Allen so much.

Speaker 5 He congratulated them right after the game because he was, it was one of those, we just beat you, but respect. You guys are going to be good in a couple years.

Speaker 5 I don't know if LeBron James knows how college athletic works, but they're going to be losing a lot of those players in a couple years.

Speaker 5 But he thinks that they're building for the future, which I guess you can make the case that they are. But it was definitely one of those, oh shit, we just scraped by the skin of our teeth.
Right.

Speaker 5 Um, so I will now give you respect.

Speaker 4 Yes, yeah, no, James Franklin, I'm looking at, he had, he's had success. I mean, he's won 11 games three out of the last four years.

Speaker 5 They lost by 20 to Iowa.

Speaker 4 I know, they suck this year. They suck this year.
They're terrible. But three out of the last four years winning 11 games is

Speaker 5 16 at home to Maryland.

Speaker 4 They're terrible this year. I'm telling you, they are going to just wash away this year.

Speaker 4 And James Franklin might go coach USC, so they might not even have a say in the matter.

Speaker 4 All right. I I think that's it.
Anything else?

Speaker 9 I would like to correct myself. The Clemson player had mild symptoms earlier in the week.

Speaker 4 Got it. Purdue got screwed.
Fucking Purdue got screwed. I'm still mad at the Big Ten refs.
And then some guy got drunk and tweeted out, like,

Speaker 4 I just found out that the Big Ten refs that were at the Purdue game also refed the Wisconsin Northwestern game. And I got really mad.
And then it was a real reporter, too.

Speaker 4 And then he's like, whoops, I read the wrong sheet. Like, blame the Guinness.
And I was like, God damn it, dude. You had me ready to steal the Declaration of Independence.

Speaker 4 I was going to take down the Big Ten in college football with getting so fucking woke on these refs. I was ready.
And he just stole that from me.

Speaker 5 You were going to do a fraud in order with Marty Mush.

Speaker 4 I was going to take them to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 5 But can they even... Are they in a position this year where they can see that a ref team did a shitty job and then just fire them? Because do they have like a backup set of refs ready to go?

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 4 The refs have been really really bad this year.

Speaker 5 I like what John Gruden says when he gets mad at refs. He's like, I just think that the game would be better played without officials at all.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 Let's just fucking call your own fouls. All right, numbers, and then we'll get everyone going.

Speaker 4 Reminder: We have no show Friday, but we'll have an extra long show for you on Wednesday for Thanksgiving week.

Speaker 10 91. Ocho.

Speaker 5 18. 69.
Great. 82.

Speaker 4 35.

Speaker 4 Minimum is 82.

Speaker 4 8, 8, 8.

Speaker 4 There's 80. Fuck.

Speaker 4 We're never going to get it. How is this possible?

Speaker 5 We will. It's going to happen.
It's going to be glorious. Never going to happen.
Australia.

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Denmark.

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