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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we got a twofer. We got Warren Sharp talking to NFL, and then Buster,

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Speaker 1 Friday, November 20th, and the Seahawks defense is back slash Kyler Murray is injured. What we saw today was what we've been waiting for the entire season.
Did they turn a corner?

Speaker 1 They flipped the switch, I was going to say. They either turned a corner or flipped the switch.
I'm not sure which one. It might just be the uniforms.

Speaker 1 More than likely, it's because they got Dunlap rushing the passers. And they cheated because Dunlap's wearing number 43.
Yeah, and he looks like a running back. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's like when you watch a college player, like Jadavion Clowney in college, I was like, that guy's not going to be good at the next level because he wears two for two.

Speaker 1 I was right. He's not good anymore.

Speaker 1 But yes,

Speaker 1 this was a...

Speaker 1 Well, I wouldn't say it was a full-on Seahawks weird game. No, no.
Let's give credit. The Seahawks did not play a weird game for the first time in primetime as long as I've been watching football.

Speaker 1 It was more of a, I think we're right that Cliff Kingsbury's kind of a membo. I don't really understand what Cliff Kingsbury was doing at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 I don't know why they were throwing to the end zone like three times in a row when all they needed was to just keep moving. Like, they had enough time.

Speaker 1 Well, it's because Cliff Kingsbury is a membo, and he remembers what happened last week, and he's like, let's just keep doing that. Yeah, let's actually move back and try to get a Hail Mary.

Speaker 1 But I yeah the Seahawks had like a decent game they ran the ball okay I mean neither defense is like great but it feels like this was more of a must win for the Seahawks and they answered the bell didn't lose three in a row three in a row Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll in their well you know their time together are now 8-0 after two losses so they've never lost three in a row I didn't know that yeah that's a fun so that's that's that is alive and that's also a mark of a really really good football team, really good coach football team, and a really good quarterback.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say, do you think Russell Wilson's MVP back on? No. No.

Speaker 1 1965. Russell Wilson is what he's going to do.
He did run the ball for 165 yards. Yeah, I think that he had a good game for sure.
And he should have had that second touchdown to DK Metcalf.

Speaker 1 JPP Metcalf is what men are calling because he

Speaker 1 his hands not great. Right in the face.
Yeah, right in the face.

Speaker 1 Right in the second one. But the first one, to his credit,

Speaker 1 had a nice touchdown catch, and then he drew an assault. That was an all-time boneheaded play.
All-time on fourth down, just like taking a swing.

Speaker 1 Forget about the situational awareness in the game of it being fourth and one. But if you try to fight DK Metcalf, you should be suspended just for your own health.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Because you need to get your brain examined.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, I agree.
He's a scary big dude who's very, very muscular. But yeah, so Seahawks back on track.
Cardinals, I don't know what. Kyler Murray, like, he definitely wasn't healthy.

Speaker 1 Like, he was his shoulder, looked,

Speaker 1 it looked like it was bothering him all night. And Kyler Murray, we've said this before, but Kyler Murray is the type of guy that, when it's not working, he is just short.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And tonight he was short.

Speaker 1 I think he was definitely hurt. They were shoving ice packs.
He wasn't terrible,

Speaker 1 which is never a good sign for a quarterback. Yeah.
He wasn't bad, but against that Seahawks defense, you expect more. You got to eat a little bit if you're Kyler Murray.
Right.

Speaker 1 I got a dumb question. Does Russell Wilson have a specific

Speaker 1 holder for his mouthpiece inside of the top of his face guard? I wouldn't be surprised. Is that customized? Because it's always in the exact same spot.

Speaker 1 He puts it in, then he takes it out a second before the snap happens. A little cup holder.
My second hot take was: I don't think that quarterbacks with visors will win a Super Bowl ever.

Speaker 1 Has a quarterback with a visor won a Super Bowl ever? I feel, Billy, you played quarterback

Speaker 1 in high school. Did not wear

Speaker 1 Nick Foles had that visor for

Speaker 1 tinted or untinted? Either way.

Speaker 1 I feel like it gets smudgy, right? It definitely gets smudgy.

Speaker 1 It's a weird look.

Speaker 1 Did Cam Newton have a visor in the Super Bowl? Yes, he did. Business.
Yeah, he's clearly going. He's a clear visor.
He lost it. Yeah, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. I think you're right.
Yeah, he understands how to visor. Yeah.
He's a visor. I think you're right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, should we talk a little real quick, NBA draft? I'm about to sneeze, but I'm going to hold it back.

Speaker 1 No, you're not. God bless you.
I got it. I held my sneeze back.
Anthony Edwards. I retract my God bless you.

Speaker 1 Now, we're going to talk about some fake news on the other side of this ad coming up with Jason McIntyre and Joe Judge, but that story that Anthony Edwards brought his own food to Benny Hanna was hilarious.

Speaker 1 Also, all-time weird interview for Anthony Edwards to be like, yeah, I actually like football more because you can celebrate and stuff. But I like that.
I actually like the anthony.

Speaker 1 Hannah tells me that he's smart, that he likes football more. He's a football guy.
He's also set expectations too high. Yep, yep.
And if things go wrong, you know,

Speaker 1 he set himself up perfectly. Congrats, Big Cat.
You didn't get Obi Toppin, but you got a flower delivery guy, which is pretty cool. Yep, no, the Bears.
He got Bulls. I almost said that.

Speaker 1 You got the sixth best player on a bad college team. No, the Bulls are so used to.
No, the 4-state was okay.

Speaker 1 The teammates want to know how to do flowers.

Speaker 1 The Bulls are so good. If anyone dies on the Bulls next year, they'll have a great spread.
He's a nice bouquet. He's like the guy from the town.

Speaker 1 That guy was a bad.

Speaker 1 Florist, yes. Cape Drew.

Speaker 1 So he's going to give heroin to everybody on the show. Correct.

Speaker 1 That is.

Speaker 1 If he does it to the opponents, we might have a chance. No, the Bulls are so good at drafting seven, they just took what they thought was like the seventh best player at four.
Yep.

Speaker 1 But I'm not, you can't be a Fire Guard Pax guy and then immediately trash the new front off.

Speaker 1 And then Clay Thompson, unfortunately, looks like he has an Achilles injury, as first reported on Twitter many times by Hank. Hank was very excited to break that news.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I got a news-breaking rush hand up.

Speaker 1 I mean, it happened on this show before.

Speaker 1 It was because we were recording, mid-recording of the podcast, and I got a random text, so it was like kind of a joke with the people in the room where I was like, oh, breaking news, guys.

Speaker 1 And then I read it, and I was like, should we tweet it? It was like, sure, let's tweet it. Let's see if it, we'll tweet it from the fantasy podcast.
And then Shams tweeted it like a minute later.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh, shit, we were on it.

Speaker 1 It turns out it was his Achilles, not his ACL, so I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I hope for the best for Clay Thompson. Yeah, unless you can get clout from tweeting out another injury of his, in which case you'll do that.
No, see, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 You guys know the news breaking high. I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 It's a very real thing. Wow, this is sad.
He knows.

Speaker 1 This is like you guys. He did it on his other podcast.
He was my dog.

Speaker 1 It wasn't you. But

Speaker 1 before Leroy broke news, we used to break news as a unit. You guys were the ones that got me.
You guys were the ones that gave me my first news. We put the spike in you.
Yes. Yes.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, if you want to, you can have Norm's dick have its own Twitter account. And it actually.
No, but the rules talking about that dog's piece are so confusing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that dog's dick is the most off-limit dog dick in the history of the story. And then we're, next thing you know, we're selling posters.
It would be very funny, though,

Speaker 1 if Adam Schefter had to say, like, as first reported by Norm,

Speaker 1 Hank's dog's dick.

Speaker 1 No. Yeah.
Norman's dick. Norman's penis.
He can never fill the shoes. I'm sorry.
I don't know. Just let me know what the rules are.
Anything else? Lamello Ball?

Speaker 1 Oh, that is awkward that he's going to Charlotte and LeVar Ball so that he could beat Michael Jordan one-on-one. I mean, they got to play one-on-one.
They have to play one-on-one.

Speaker 1 And Michael Jordan will make LeVar Ball cry.

Speaker 1 And yeah, that's Obi Toppin.

Speaker 1 I am a little sad, but whatever. He's also like 22.
That's what you can do to yourself. You can just say that.
I might start watching the Knicks again. Oh, look at you.

Speaker 1 Look at you, Billy. Billy Roundball.

Speaker 1 They were unwashable. Billy Roundball.
Fair weather fan. Maybe we can get him in the studio sports fan.

Speaker 1 I bet you Obi Toppin would come in for a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's about your age. That's true.
That's true. We can go out together.
Me and Obi hitting the clubs. All right, let's do this girlfriend.
Let's do the weekend preview.

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I got a drink named after you.

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Speaker 1 Okay, weekend preview. We got Warren Sharp coming up, up, so we're going to talk some football with him as well.
Before we get into the games, though, Joe Judge got in a fight with Mark Colombo.

Speaker 1 Not true, but we're going to choose to believe it's true. Joe Judge, Football Guy of the Year.
It would be a lot cooler if it was true.

Speaker 1 And I really hope that there's still some element of truth to it, but apparently...

Speaker 1 He fired Colombo, and then Colombo took exception to that. And then basically they titty-bumped.
There was some disputation of it saying that they might not be even in the same building. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it might have happened on Zoom, in which case, was he hitting like the reaction button, the fist emoji? I don't know exactly what happened. I just saw the story.

Speaker 1 Mark Colombo, by the way, bear for life, but he is, I think, 6'8 ⁇ . I don't know how much he weighs now, but let's call it 280 now.

Speaker 1 Big fucking guy. So Joe Judge, just the idea that Joe Judge would possibly go at an offensive lineman, a former offensive lineman, now offensive line coach,

Speaker 1 means that Joe Judge has officially changed the culture for the New York Giants, and they are a goodish football team.

Speaker 1 Am I crazy to think that it's a good sign that you've got your coach that's willing to fight his assistance? Yes.

Speaker 1 Probably with tennis balls taped to his hands. I like that because

Speaker 1 if I was a Giants player, I look at Joe Judge, and he's not really much to be afraid of. Yeah.
But just knowing he has a little bit of craziness to him, you kind of respect that.

Speaker 1 So I hope that it's true. As far as coaches go, I would probably have ranked Joe Judge Judge towards the bottom.

Speaker 1 I think that until I learned that he might have gotten a fist fight with Colombo, I would say I could probably beat up Joe Judge. Yeah, but now that I'm thinking about it,

Speaker 1 he is a true football guy and like running wind sprints.

Speaker 1 Joe Judge, let's say this, Joe Judge would not win a fight against Mark Colombo. Duh.
Joe Judge probably wouldn't win a fight against a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Joe Judge would never be scared of getting into a fight. Yeah, I'm not afraid to get my ass kicked.

Speaker 1 He would relish the opportunity to get a

Speaker 1 little bit of blood on his nose via an offensive lineman, 6'8, 300 pounds. So I'm officially taking Joe Judge off my list of NFL head coaches I think I could beat up.

Speaker 1 I think the only people that are on the list right now, I want to say Zach Taylor. I think I could beat up Zach Taylor.

Speaker 1 I think I could trip Romeo Cornell with a cane. Pete Carroll and his twin.

Speaker 1 At the same time? Yeah. Yeah, they're old.
I think Pete Carroll's a biter, though. They're They're very old.
He's a bit. I could not beat up Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 1 I used to have him on my list, but I feel like he's too flexible. Andy Reed, you could just kind of run around with maybe a thin rope and just like lasso him and then he'd topple over.

Speaker 1 I think if I got in a fight with Andy Reid, I would just, I would get close to him and I'd just be like, I can't stay mad at you. Yeah.
I'd end up hugging him. I could beat up Matt Nagy for sure.

Speaker 1 You just be like, do you play calling? I'm just going to get a lot of motions.

Speaker 1 I could not beat up John Gruden because Deuce is right next to him at all. And he's also just a badass.
Yeah, Deuce.

Speaker 1 Well, Deuce is like his pit pit bull that he has on a leash next to him, ready to attack at any given time. Bruce Arians, you could take.
We could pretty much just take all the old guys.

Speaker 1 I would just hide all the liquor from Bruce Arians and let the DTs take care of it. I think that actually would be bad.
He'd probably get so angry that he'd fuck you up.

Speaker 1 No, his body would go into a state of convulsion. Yeah, that's a seizure.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do some games real quick.

Speaker 1 Anything we want to talk about?

Speaker 1 Let's start Eagles-Browns.

Speaker 1 All I'm going to say about this game is this feels like a game that the Eagles are going to win for no reason other than that they have to win a game that's important at some point along this way.

Speaker 1 I looked up the weather. It's still going to be Cleveland weather.
Yep. So

Speaker 1 they've got God on their side right now. But doesn't it feel like the Eagles

Speaker 1 eventually they have to win an important game? We keep saying that.

Speaker 1 And I will probably die. They might be my Falcons of 2000, whatever, 17, 16 it was, where they haven't played their best game yet.
Eventually the Eagles have to play a good game.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's this week. Okay.
I like Nick Chubb too much. Yeah, even though he he fucked us over.
All right.

Speaker 1 Falcon Saints, Jameis. Yep.
Jameis, Jameis. Jameis is going to eat this weekend.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 Just let him. The only thing I'm worried about is that

Speaker 1 Sean Payton says we need Jameis to run Drew Brees' offense. No, you need Jameis to be Jameis.

Speaker 1 Well, what I don't like is that they've got Michael Thomas back and they're trying to incorporate him a lot into the gameplay.

Speaker 1 And I can't think of a wide receiver that fits Jameis Winston's skill set less than Michael Thomas. Correct.
Just running slants, slants, just going as close to linebackers as possible. Bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just stay away from it. Just tell him,

Speaker 1 I know that you're Captain Slant, run straight downfield. Go deep.
Go deep. All right.
Bengals, Washington football team.

Speaker 1 Kind of a who cares game, but maybe the Washington football team wins, and then all of a sudden they are back.

Speaker 1 This is one of those games where both teams have it circled on their calendar at the start of the year as a surefire win. Yes, yes.
Same with this one, Lions Panthers.

Speaker 1 I feel like both teams are like, oh, this is going to be a win.

Speaker 1 Probably not. Although, no Teddy, and also, how do you handicap Matthew Stafford's wife going viral? That's true.
And then apologizing. PJ going re-viral.
PJ Walker, XFL legend, getting the start.

Speaker 1 I think, wait, he was on the Houston Roughnecks, right? Yep.

Speaker 1 The second best team in the XFL.

Speaker 1 I like the Panthers in this.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like Rule.
I think Matt Rule is a much, much better coach. I mean, you can always, Matt Patricia's stupidity can always surprise you.

Speaker 1 Always. This is another example of how we're losing mats when it comes to the quarterback position, but we're gaining tons of mats on the head coaching side to even out the universe.

Speaker 1 You guys say that I'm hard on our friends.

Speaker 1 Where does the line go? Matt Patricia are friends. Matt Patricia's our friend? He did our broadcast.
Yeah, he did. He spent the whole time

Speaker 1 parading our posture.

Speaker 1 He did. I've got great posture.
I don't hate him. I just think he's a defensive coordinator.
I was curious. I was just checking.

Speaker 1 I think that Matt Patricia is without a doubt the dumbest rocket science on the face of the earth right now.

Speaker 1 Can I say something that's very depressing, but I'm going to say it, and I fully believe it.

Speaker 1 Well, so this, if the Lions win this game, my itty-bitty run would come true. So they would be 5-5 on Thanksgiving Day.
But I think

Speaker 1 if the Bears lose on next Sunday to the Packers, I'm officially in. I know the Bears can't get a good draft pick, but rooting for the easiest schedule.
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 1 Last thing I've seen North to get the easiest schedule. That will now be my new slant.
Be like, well, if they get a quarterback,

Speaker 1 things could bounce their way. They could be back in 2021.
Big spins over. Steelers, Jags.

Speaker 1 Just a reminder, because it needs to be said, the Steelers are 1-10 against the spread as a double-digit road favorite

Speaker 1 under Mike Tomlin. So Jake Luton, we're doing the Jake Luton dance.

Speaker 1 You just got to take the Jags against the spread. I'm starting to embrace the fact that the Steelers are fun.
We'll talk a little bit about that with Warren Sharp in a little bit.

Speaker 1 But the Steelers are a fun offensive football team, and it's taken me like probably two and a half years of them actually being electric on offense for me to accept that fact. Yes.

Speaker 1 Titans, Ravens, this is the official wheels fall off bowl because the loser of this game,

Speaker 1 the Titans go and play at the Colts, the Ravens go and play at the Steelers. The loser of this game will be facing three losses in a row right in their fucking face.

Speaker 1 The loser of the game is absolutely fraud. I actually think, I think Baltimore wins, and I think they win easily because the Tennessee Titans, they just stink.
They're just,

Speaker 1 I've been, listen, I got a lot of shit for saying that back in September. I was wrong.
I'm mad enough to admit that I was wrong about the Tennessee Titans. They stink right now.

Speaker 1 Unless they turn into feed Tractor Cito. It is Tractor Cito season, right?

Speaker 1 Are we going for that? December. Mid-November.
Mid-November should be. That's typically when Tractor Citizen should be.
Clayus Campbell, if he's not playing,

Speaker 1 that's a problem.

Speaker 1 That's a problem. Patriots, Texans, Hank.

Speaker 1 Easy. Are you worried at all that the Patriots are part of my Can't Lose Parlay? No.
I love the Patriots. Are you sure?

Speaker 1 Can't Lose Parlay has lost a lot recently. It's due.

Speaker 1 I think it's a Patriots runaway 10-plus. Okay, the Can't Lose Parlay real quick.
I'm going back to the roots. It's all money lines.
No fucking around with anything. It's the Patriots.

Speaker 1 It's the Chargers. It's the Vikings and the Chiefs.
Oh, we got a hold right now. You love the opposite of all of those.
We have a hold in the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You love this.
That's probably a win. It's a safety.
The Vikings play the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 That's probably a win. Okay.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs. The Chiefs are my.

Speaker 1 I think this is the best can't-lose parlay of the season. Wow, Hank.
I like the positivity. I like pretty much every other underdog.
It's also set up that. Oh, wow, that safety was huge

Speaker 1 for the points spread.

Speaker 1 Huge. Hank, sorry.
Billy, sorry.

Speaker 1 Very happy about that safety. Ecstatic about it.
We're going to time travel. You're going to hear us talking about the end of this game at the beginning of the game.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up, Dolphins at Denver.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Broncos in this. Okay.
I have a couple stats for Tua in the altitude. Has Tua ever played this far above sea level in his life?

Speaker 1 Ooh, good question. Oxygen.
I do not know. Yeah.
I do not know.

Speaker 1 Two stats for you. Denver.
This is just a stupid stat, but I love stupid stats. Denver, 0-10 against the spread since 2005 when hosting Florida teams.
Okay. That's significant.
That is significant.

Speaker 1 That's a significant status.

Speaker 1 Because when you think about how great Tampa, Miami, and Jacksonville have been over the last 10 years. That's a stupid, stupid stat.
But think about it. Like, Tua grew up in Hawaii.
Yep. Played.

Speaker 1 They have mountains. They're in the SEC.
They've got volcanoes. I don't think they have any football fields on top of them.
You could toss one around.

Speaker 1 We'll have to see if they do have a football stadium on top of an active volcano there. Yep.

Speaker 1 He played in Alabama. Obviously, SEC, there's no real, what, Rocky Top is probably the highest elevation? Yep.
Not going to fact-check it, but it sounds true. Yep.
And now he's in South Florida.

Speaker 1 I think this is his first time dealing with low oxygen. Okay.
Yes ago, the Nadi was in Santa Clara. No.
No.

Speaker 1 Not close to Colorado. No, Naughty.
That's very close to sea level. Very close.
Very close. They just take the 405.

Speaker 1 They should put one of those little oxygen meters on his finger during the game because I bet that sucker dips below 90. Yes.
And then here's stat number two.

Speaker 1 So since 2006, that's when QBR was created.

Speaker 1 Drew Locke is on pace for the 426th out of 456th worst QBR

Speaker 1 ever. Of any quarterback.
Yes. There's been 456 QBRs ranked.
So I think there's a, you don't have to to play a certain amount of games, and Drew Locke would be 426 out of 450.

Speaker 1 Now, due to fourth quarter only.

Speaker 1 He's number one. Much higher.
He's number one. Much higher.
Drew Locke, garbage time king. Also, he's still going to be hungover from watching the Yeezy Gucci Mane versus.
Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, Jets, Chargers, Justin Herbert's hair.

Speaker 1 I didn't mind it. I did not mind Justin Herbert's hair.

Speaker 1 His hair

Speaker 1 was the defining thing. His hair was like, ooh, you know, his hair looks cool.
I like that now.

Speaker 1 He looks like he plays

Speaker 1 Clint Eastwood's son in a movie set in the 50s. I like that.

Speaker 1 He looks like a bully. Troubled youth.
Yeah, he looks like

Speaker 1 he looks like the older brother in Stand By Me right now. I like it, and I respect the fact that he had his strength and conditioning coach buzz his head with clippers, and he didn't go to the doctor.

Speaker 1 Okay, that changes it. He didn't go to the team doctor, which is smart because his head would have looked like John F.
Kennedy's afterwards. That's smart.
Yeah, that's smart. Okay.
Packers, Colts.

Speaker 1 What, Billy? He kind of looked like Brandon Dacey. He did.
A little bit.

Speaker 1 He had a little bit of a vibe of like, hey, this kid, you know, like he kidnapped a five-year-old and bashed his head in with a rock. But all business, though.
Yes. But all business.

Speaker 1 Send Justin Herbert to WrestleMania, please.

Speaker 1 Packers, Colts.

Speaker 1 This is actually just, I'm excited for this game. It's a big test.
I think this is a... We will find out who is a good team out of these two teams.

Speaker 1 I feel like I've been saying that every week about the Colts. Yeah, but this is a real, like, I do think the Colts

Speaker 1 will have issues with Aaron Rodgers, but vice versa, I think the Packers' defense is going to have some issues with the Colts' offensive line. I just, I'm excited to watch this game.

Speaker 1 And it's a late game. Hank, you have four late games.
Is that okay? It's great. Okay.
Cowboys, Vikings. I'm going to withhold judgment until I know if the roof's open or closed in that.
Okay, fair.

Speaker 1 Roof closed. I like the Colts.
Roof open, I like the Packers. Totally fair.

Speaker 1 Cowboys, Vikings,

Speaker 1 Vikings Vikings better win by 100 because I have them in my can't-lose parlay. And also to get the truck.
This might be a leckdown game. This might be.
From the Bears? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, sure.

Speaker 1 It also, I do think there is, this is one of my dumb theories, but I do think when you play a good defense and then you play a bad defense, everything just looks easier and everything feels easier.

Speaker 1 So I think the Vikings will have a lot easier time.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I like the Vikings.
Taking the Vikings. Yeah, no, I am too.
All right, and then last Chiefs, Raiders, the bus game.

Speaker 1 So the Chiefs took, or sorry, the Raiders took victory laps around Arrowhead when they beat the Chiefs. And apparently, the Chiefs are perturbed by that.

Speaker 1 I do think that Andy Reid off will buy, and this is right when we're going to start being like, oh, yeah, the Chiefs are way better than everyone.

Speaker 1 This is a game where Patrick Mahomes throws for five touchdowns. Right.
It's the start of the Chiefs being like, yeah, they're the best best team in the league.

Speaker 1 There are going to be three touchdowns this week where it's going to take you three seconds after the play is over to be like, is that Miko Hardman or is that one of the other guys that looks exactly like Miko Hardman?

Speaker 1 Wide open, guys. Yeah, I did love John Gruden.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize this in real time, but against the Broncos on last Sunday, he ran the ball 11 straight times. Yeah, he loves that shot.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 He loves it, but I don't think that's going to work against Keith. No, I just respect anyone who does that.
I respect any coach that does that.

Speaker 1 I like the fact that John Gruden did tell his bus driver to just circle the stadium. Just circle.
Like, that is the ultimate. They're like, John, we're going to miss our flight.

Speaker 1 No, just keep circling. This is too important around this.
Just soak this shit in. Like buzzards around a carcass.
That was a big win.

Speaker 1 We're going to say four to the Al Michaels Vegas references because their first NBC game got swept to the Bucks. That's true.
That's true. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Is this the first time we're going to get to see a Legion Stadium

Speaker 1 at night?

Speaker 1 Week two, we had. Oh, yeah, yeah, the Raiders Saints.
Yeah, that was Monday. Right, that's Al Michaels.
That's when I fell in love.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Yes, yes.
So I'm excited for that game. Great Sunday coming up.
Great Sunday. And just throwing in an extra, if Wisconsin loses Northwestern, I will be blocking Darren Revelle.

Speaker 1 I think that's more than

Speaker 1 I'm excited for Bedlam, and I'm excited for Indiana to get still get hyped.

Speaker 1 Just do it once. I'm excited to see the name Peenix on the screen multiple times on Saturday.
Just do it once. What a great name, that Peenix Jr.
Do it once. Do it once.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to Fantasy Canadians. A little new spin, and then we will have Warren Sharp and Buster.
It should be, you know what it should be? Fantasy. Like, A.
Fantasé. Fantastic Canadians.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do it. Hank.
Hey does he have a last name, eh? Hey, how are you there? It's just Buster to me, always will be. You got to get back in this voice.
All right, boys.

Speaker 1 My name is Spinner Mason. Spinner.
Spinner.

Speaker 1 Spinster. Spinorama.
My stardom is salt. Salt! Salt.

Speaker 1 It's going to get a little snowy here in the coming five, ten months because it's always snowing up here in canada yeah it's need some salt to put on the roads not too much again from a to point a to point dot too much salt and you can't get home some coffee drink coffee drink can't get a good edge with your skate there my sid him yeah melvin gordon

Speaker 1 taking a seat have a seat pal big name he's not much of a driver himself they're going up against the dolphins defense this week if he's on your team he's a big name but you want to put him on your bench that sounds like real fantasy advice there beefer is abroad levine oh

Speaker 1 which one were you talking here? The original or the Newski? The original. The original is from Canada.

Speaker 1 She's our home. She's our biggest.
And she died about 10 years ago back.

Speaker 1 Got impaled on Jack Progress Cat. No, no, no.
Avrid Levine, she is my sleeper. She's a beautiful queen.
What's your accent? You just lost it there.

Speaker 1 Manitoba. Now I'm losing it.
Far West. Toronto, eh? Far West, Canada.

Speaker 1 Okay, thank you there. What's your name again? Spinner Mason.
Spinster.

Speaker 1 Oh my real Canadians know what that means. Oh, shit.
Did you just do something cool to hit? It's one of these sexy things. I'm an old guy.
I don't know. I don't have Deaner course anymore.

Speaker 1 Spinner, like meat spinner? Deaner, no, one of the biggest Playboys in Canada's history. Oh, wow.
Okay, nice.

Speaker 1 Hey, partners, I'm Wayne McMillarman. Nice.
I'm starting this weekend.

Speaker 1 I'm starting flapjacks. You're not good at coming up with fake names, eh? Wayne Ol.

Speaker 1 Go to Wayne Oll. Starting flapjacks now.
They're good as gold. He actually said he had a great name.
He said I need to do it because I got a great name. Wayne Ol McMillarman.

Speaker 1 We got flapjacks on the menu this weekend at the Wayne house. We call them fluffy syrup pucks, and you flip them, turn them into your favorite shapes, just a real treat for the whole family.

Speaker 1 Make a maple leaf of them, make a silver dollar shape, you name it. It's always good to fill up on chow.
Nice, little chow, little poutine.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting Canadian Thanksgiving. Take a seat now.
We've had our turn. We had our turn in October.

Speaker 1 Now it's time to smile for our neighbors down south when they put their cornucopias on all the score bugs and all the

Speaker 1 graphics on the local news channel and the transmissions there. It's good to celebrate and to share Thanksgiving with our neighbors to the south.
When does the makeup?

Speaker 1 Ah, I didn't think they canceled that. That's bullshit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I heard about it. My sleeper is Chase Playpool.
He's Canadian. You know that? Yeah, I did.
Oh, Chaser's Canadian. We don't call him a stealer.
We call him a borrower.

Speaker 1 That's a little Canadian neighborly humor.

Speaker 1 His name translates to running from a pool of play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a funny one. That's a good one, Spinner.

Speaker 1 Talk about a catch radius on this guy. I hate to go ice fishing next to him.
Spinster. All right, my,

Speaker 1 what's up, guys? I'm Graham Gordon. Hey, Grammy Gordon.
Graham. Another kind of name, Gordo.
Oh, you just did a spinster spinner or something. You actually did a real name.

Speaker 1 So why don't you go freak yourself? Oh, buddy. Watch out.
Don't use the CK word. Sorry, I got

Speaker 1 flew off the handle there for a second.

Speaker 1 All right, my stardom is Luke Wilson. Is he in the NFL still?

Speaker 1 Well, I'm going to him because I love that guy. He's one of my favorite guys in the world.
You're incorrect now. I believe he just got a tryout for the pracky squad.
There we go. The Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 I support all the Canadian guys in the NFL, especially the ones that aren't in the NFL.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 My sit-im is Tim Bitts. You got to make sure that you get your weight down a little bit before Thanksgiving here.
So maybe cut out the Tim Bitts this weekend. No, thank you.

Speaker 1 I'll take a pass on your sitems.

Speaker 1 And and then my sleeper is uh don't sleep on this one guys bedlam it's a little bit of crazy it's crazy down in oklahoma they do this game called bedlam they all get wild and crazy but that's gonna be a great game on saturday so i'm not sleeping on that one if you don't take the over in bedlam you're a diehard sucker yeah you're a real uh poo-poo pants hey how are you guys it's bill muscud from saskatchewan my start on this poutine you know get the little poutine put the gravy on it you don't sound canadian there you sound like my start on the Saskatchewan Rough Riders.

Speaker 1 Are you Russian or are you from

Speaker 1 Alabama? Shit, I'm Russian. I'm a Russian agent, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 My sleeper is the Van Cooper Maltime, which is just a cup of Nyquil. Hmm, that sounds tasty now.
Sleepy. Stay healthy.
That's my COVID cure.

Speaker 1 It's a nice warm teaspoonful of Nyquil that'll cure what ails you. Sleep like a baby.

Speaker 1 There it is. I think the food's getting called here.
I'm getting a phone call. Should I pick it up?

Speaker 1 Hello there.

Speaker 1 Hello there.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We'll be right down, okay?

Speaker 1 Okay, see you soon.

Speaker 1 All right, well, I guess that we're going to have to eat the food. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Canadian fantasy Canadians. Fantasy Canucks.
Fantasy Canucks. Let's go.

Speaker 1 We'll see if that works. I don't know.
I always like doing the Todd and Gordo voices. We haven't done it in a fucking long ass time.
Since the Super Bowl last year. It's a long ass time.

Speaker 1 Shout out to our guy, Greg Kittle. All right, let's get to our interview.
We have Warren Sharp, a little football talk, and then we are going to do

Speaker 1 James Buster

Speaker 1 Curly.

Speaker 1 Just Buster.

Speaker 1 He's Buster. You know him as Buster.

Speaker 1 He is Buster from Buster. James Buster Corley, awesome interview about Dave and Busters and the creation of the greatest restaurant of all time.

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Speaker 1 And now, here is our good friend, Warren Sharp.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Warren Sharp, at Sharp Football. You can find him on Twitter.
He has sharpfootballanalysis.com, sharpfootballstats.com. He's got a podcast on the ringer.

Speaker 1 He's on NBC Sports. He's all over the place.
We're going to talk talk a little football. We're going to kind of, you know, we do this every month, catch up with what's going on.
So

Speaker 1 let's start with, and we're going to tape, we're taping this on Thursday night. We're going to run it on Friday.
So it's before the game tonight, the Seahawks Cardinals game. But let's start there.

Speaker 1 Obviously, this can all sound outdated.

Speaker 1 If you're, we've been talking about it. Russell Wilson has not looked great the last few weeks.
The Seahawks defense is abysmal. What is the fix for the Seahawks? And is there a fix?

Speaker 8 So I don't know the fix on defense. I do know that the last time that they played the Arizona Cardinals, they did not have Jamal Adams.
So Jamal Adams being there might help a little bit.

Speaker 8 You obviously have to try to do your best to contain Kyler Murray and prevent him from running the football and doing damage on the ground.

Speaker 8 So Jamal, they could try to use Jamal as a little bit of a spy because they have been playing him down in the box a little bit more.

Speaker 8 It's tough on that side of the ball. I really don't know if there is a legitimate fix because their personnel are bad.
So I don't know really what you can do to fix your personnel issues.

Speaker 8 What you can do offensively, though, is help your defense a little bit by making that opposing offense more predictable. And that's, you've got to get these leads and maintain them.

Speaker 8 And they've obviously struggled to do that since they came off the buy. I remember them heading into the buy and they were undefeated.
And I was like, wow, they've got an early buy.

Speaker 8 It's only week six. I wonder how they're going to deal with that because they were rolling up until that point.
And, you know, they said, well, we like it.

Speaker 8 We like because we think we're going to get guys back healthy. But they've dropped three out of the last four games since they came off that buy.
The only win was over the 49ers who were terrible,

Speaker 8 very injured. And Jimmy G left that game.
He was playing hurt to start with, as it turned out, and he ends up leaving that game.

Speaker 8 I think

Speaker 8 part of their defense is going to look a little bit better when you get past this Arizona game. Because once you're done with this Arizona game, you're going to play four teams,

Speaker 8 three of which are from the NFC East, that should make your defense look a lot better. The Eagles, the Giants, and the Washington football team.

Speaker 8 You also have the Jets sprinkled in, so a little Adam Gase action.

Speaker 8 So I think the defense is going to look a little bit better from that perspective. Offensively, they look good their last game out against the Arizona Cardinals in the first half, especially.

Speaker 8 They had a 10-point lead at halftime, only had three third-down attempts and like 18 first-downs, which is really good. We want to stay out of third down.

Speaker 8 But the problem for that game later on and then for the last couple of opponents is that one of the things that teams are doing for doing against Seattle is not crowding the box on early downs.

Speaker 8 They're daring the Seahawks to run the football. So they're playing coverage, and they're like, we know you guys have changed up this year.
You want to pass the ball a lot more in early downs. Fine.

Speaker 8 We're going to flood the coverage. We're going to dare you to run the football.

Speaker 8 And it's going to be up to Pete Carroll and to Russell Wilson as to how much they do want to say, fine, we loved running, but we loved passing, but we got opportunities to run the ball here.

Speaker 8 So that'll be interesting to see tonight against the Cardinals as well as over the next couple of games.

Speaker 1 So when it comes to their running game, they've been minus Chris Carson for a while. He's a really good running back.

Speaker 1 I've had like a weird little obsession with Chris Carson ever since he was drafted. I always thought since that first

Speaker 1 preseason game, like this guy is a top 10 running back in the NFL when he's healthy.

Speaker 1 He's not healthy that often, but is the reason that the Seahawks aren't running the football because they don't have Chris Carson and his backups are like that significant of a drop-off?

Speaker 1 Or has Pete Carroll just taken the whole like let Russ cook thing and just over adapted and that pendulum is going to take a while to swing back?

Speaker 8 Well, they I don't know how long I hope it takes a while to swing back. I hope it's not something that happens suddenly because this is what they needed to do for a while now.

Speaker 8 I mean, last year in the postseason, Chris Carson was also injured and they were still running the ball in the playoff game with Travis Homer and Marshawn Lynch.

Speaker 8 I mean, I don't know what they were even thinking at that point in time.

Speaker 8 And it's crazy to imagine that that team still was run heavy on the road in the in Green Bay in the postseason, and now they completely flipped the switch.

Speaker 8 But I've been begging for them to do this exact thing for a couple of years now is you got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Let him throw the ball on early downs.

Speaker 8 You need to try to build leads. Stop trying to come back in the fourth quarter.
So without Carson, yes, runs are less efficient.

Speaker 8 It's still, though, It doesn't necessarily matter the exact running back. And we see that with the Carolina Panthers, without Christian McCaffrey and how well Mike Davis has been doing.

Speaker 8 More of an impetus is on when you call the run.

Speaker 8 And if you call a run in a smart situation to run the ball, which is when the box is light or down in the red zone or in short-yardage situations, that is when you're going to have the most production.

Speaker 8 It doesn't necessarily matter who the back is. Some guys are obviously more talented than others, better at breaking tackles than others.
So you might get a little bit more production there.

Speaker 8 But I think that as long as they're calling runs when it's efficient to run the football and not running into stacked boxes on first down, they still should be somewhat successful.

Speaker 8 But you're right, getting Chris Carson back will make a difference for them.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about the Steelers real quick because I feel like when we talk about the Steelers, we always give a lot of credit to their defense, and their defense is good, and they've been good for a while.

Speaker 1 But they're sneaky, kind of a fun offensive football team. And you don't always think about that when you talk about Pittsburgh Steelers' offense.

Speaker 1 You know, back in the day, it was just like, give the ball to the running back, get four yards, repeat until you win by, you know, 20 to 17.

Speaker 8 But they're putting putting up points has mike tomlin done anything significantly different in his play calling this year as opposed to years past obviously throwing away you know the games that that ben roethlitzberger wasn't the quarterback last year yeah well they brought in a guy named matt canada and you guys know him from college because i know you guys are college football hounds and so matt candidate is really good with pre-snap motion now they're still hardly using any play action i still don't quite understand how they can't improve that usage because they're one of the worst teams in the nfl at actually using it and then when they use it it's basically like a throwaway type situation.

Speaker 8 They could design some things to make that part of the game plan a little bit more efficient. But what they are doing more of is a lot more pre-snap motion.

Speaker 8 And they've got more wide receivers out on the football field because they've got some good wide receivers. They're actually healthy right now.
So that's when you would want to use them.

Speaker 8 And so Ben's becoming more of like a facilitator and a distributor of the football is working out really well for that offense.

Speaker 8 Granted, they haven't played too stiff a competition, but let's just take, you know, we talked about the play calling of the Seattle Seahawks Seahawks, and I focus a lot on play calling because players definitely help win and lose games, but game plans themselves can help win or lose games before the games even start.

Speaker 8 And one of the things that I loved about the Steelers from what I saw last week is you guys remember Ben Rothesberger had those double knee, whatever happened to him in the Dallas Cowboys game, where I love the picture that Big Cat always tweets out where Ben's wrapped up with the ace bandages and nice packs all over himself anytime he starts talking about his injuries.

Speaker 8 But he left the game for a little while, comes back, wins the game in Dallas, but he's dealing with these double knee injuries. Then he's on the COVID list due to close contact.

Speaker 8 So he's not even at the facility. He's not even practicing the entire week.

Speaker 8 Now, some coaches may take those two things and say, well, maybe we should design a little bit more of a run-heavy game plan.

Speaker 8 And then Other coaches may also look at the weather forecast and say, man, it looks like it's actually going to be pretty windy.

Speaker 8 There's some gusts here in the forecast against the Bengals last Sunday in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 8 Maybe we should factor that in along with our quarterback not even being in the facility and design a more run-heavy game plan. But you know what the Steelers offense did?

Speaker 8 They went 75% of their plays were passes through the first three quarters of that game. They were up 22 to 7 at halftime.

Speaker 8 And even in the third quarter of that game against the Bengals, they still passed the ball on 76% of their offensive plays. This shows me that they know, A,

Speaker 8 a run game's not great. And we're not going to force the issue.
Their pass defense sucks. We're going to pass the ball because we've got a good quarterback that we trust.
And

Speaker 8 Ben was playing well, and they continued to pass.

Speaker 8 So I think that's a perfect example of designing a smart, intelligent game plan before the game even happens, not getting scared, not doing the conservative thing, but attacking the opponent's weakness, which is the Bengals' pass defense and their pass rush, which is terrible, which I think is going to help Alex Smith a lot this week.

Speaker 8 I'm actually excited to watch your Washington football team this week, PFT. But

Speaker 8 I think the Steelers are a legitimate team. And right now, they are in a dogfight with the Kansas City Chiefs for that single possession of that first-round buy.

Speaker 8 There's only one this season, and only one of these two teams is going to get it. There's only one loss between them thus far.
Great rematch game Sunday night in Las Vegas for the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 And obviously, the Steelers need to avoid a look ahead against this Jacksonville Jaguars team because next Thursday they host on Thanksgiving the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 8 That game is going to be massive, obviously, for their ability to win the division as well as futures in general and them getting the first round buy.

Speaker 8 They can't afford to look past lowly Jaguars to take it on the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Matt Canada was the guy who put up 70 against Nebraska in the Big Ten championship game when he was offensive coordinator for Wisconsin for a single year.

Speaker 1 He basically took the play calling away from Brett Beleman and they put up 70 on Nebraska. All right, so you mentioned the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I assume you heard the interview where Lamar Jackson essentially said, like, defenses are calling out our plays beforehand. Do you see that with Greg Roman?

Speaker 1 Because something similar happened in San Francisco when they were explosive, new, innovative with Colin Kaepernick, then it kind of regressed a little.

Speaker 1 Is that happening right now, or is it more that they just don't have the talent, wide receivers, missing pieces on offensive line, et cetera, et cetera?

Speaker 8 Well, it's a combination. I think they need to change their philosophy a little bit.

Speaker 8 I wanted to see the start of the season a little bit more ability for Lamar to come to the line of of scrimmage in audible based upon how many men were in the box.

Speaker 8 And if he's not getting favorable looks, get out of those plays.

Speaker 8 But so often Lamar comes to the line and just, you know, they just call the play that whatever's been called, regardless of how the defense appears to be matching up with them. So that would help.

Speaker 8 But I do sense a little bit of the predictability. But sometimes it's like the defensive players are just guessing right.
And it's not necessarily.

Speaker 8 giving them that big of an advantage, but it's enough to make the quarterback frustrated, you know, which I think that Lamar is.

Speaker 8 The other thing that defenses are doing differently this year is they're playing a lot more man coverage.

Speaker 8 And so they're daring, they're trying to give extra defenders the ability to get into the box as necessary and making Lamar beat them in man coverage.

Speaker 8 Lamar is great in zone when he can use some of those play actions and find guys in the gaps in the zone and hit them.

Speaker 8 But in man coverage, it's a lot more difficult when guys aren't reacting to the play action.

Speaker 8 And it's also a lot more of a challenge for him because you're down some of the key blockers that you have in the run game. So your runs are no longer being quite as productive.

Speaker 8 They actually need to be passing the ball more on first down. They have one of the highest run rates on first down.
Lamar, I mean, this may surprise you because it surprised me.

Speaker 8 If you look at the numbers themselves, Lamar has...

Speaker 8 better efficiency when he passes the ball on first downs this year than he did last year, but the team is running the ball more this year and the runs are far less efficient than they were last year.

Speaker 8 They're down a run-blocking tight end, Boyle, who just got hurt recently. They were down multiple offensive linemen because some got hurt, some weren't here for this season.
Yonda wasn't here.

Speaker 8 So they've got new pieces there that weren't there to start the season as well as last year. It's something that they're going to have to overcome.

Speaker 8 But I think this offense is still a work in progress trying to make up for some of those losses in personnel and adjust to the adjustments that the defenses have made to try to slow them down.

Speaker 8 Makes sense.

Speaker 1 What about Dan in New Orleans this week? It's going to be interesting because

Speaker 1 Drew Brees is out with a shoulder injury, right? Correct? Yeah, shoulder injury. A really bad shoulder injury.
Maybe Sean Payton fractured his lung. Maybe a bruised rib.

Speaker 1 But this is, it's interesting because they've got, obviously, Jameis and Taysom. And last year we saw something similar where Teddy came in and he was the guy.

Speaker 1 It was like a mixture of Teddy and then Taysom. And it was like, it was a little conservative at times with Teddy.

Speaker 1 But are they going to see this matchup with the Falcons and be like, we're going to let Jameis cook or whatever the

Speaker 1 let Jameis eat. Are they going to let Jameis eat against this Falcons defense or is it going to be pretty conservative?

Speaker 8 Well, I will tell you,

Speaker 8 interestingly, today, Alvin Kamara was not at practice, and I heard that he was limited on Wednesday with an ankle.

Speaker 8 So it's going to be interesting if he can go because he's the type of guy, even though he's a running back, completely changes the game plan, right?

Speaker 8 Like you can try to work around not having Michael Thomas as a receiver, but Alvin Kamara does so much in both the run and the past that it will be very difficult.

Speaker 8 So I'm still optimistic that he's going to play.

Speaker 8 I've heard nothing to say otherwise, but anytime a guy practices one day and then the next day he does not practice, not necessarily a great sign for his availability.

Speaker 8 But we'll pretend for the purposes of this discussion that Kamara is up there because we haven't heard that he's not.

Speaker 8 It is going to be much different having a quarterback like Jameis than Teddy because

Speaker 8 I feel like Teddy

Speaker 8 really follows in line, follows in line with what the coach wants to see happen, where he wants the read to be, where he wants that ball thrown,

Speaker 8 and pretty much like managing the offense the right way. Whereas I feel like Jameis wants to prove himself a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Right. I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Yes. Jameis is a wild stallion.
Yes. That's a very diplomatic way of putting it.

Speaker 1 Teddy listens to his coaches and will make good throws and sees linebackers. And Jameis is Jameis.
Jameis is Jameis.

Speaker 8 I'm excited to see Jameis in a full game with the Lasic, though, because

Speaker 8 we see a totally new,

Speaker 8 a new eyelid gets turned over here and we get to see a much better Jameis. But there's no doubt

Speaker 8 they're going to have to dial things back a little bit more because you're right. You can't, if you don't have Drew there, you can't turn the ball over.

Speaker 8 And this Falcons defense, that secondary was very young to start the season. Then they had a bunch of injuries.
Some guys missed some time with COVID issues as well.

Speaker 8 They're getting healthy, and they're really playing hard under their interim head coach. And I think they're doing a really good job.

Speaker 8 Much different defense right now than they were at the middle point of the season. And it's not going to be a step over for

Speaker 8 the Saints without Drew Brees to really take it to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Raheem Morris, I mean, they are playing a lot better defense.

Speaker 1 Give us, and you're going to make some people mad, but that's okay. Give us your fraud alert teams.
Give us a couple teams that their record is probably looking okay,

Speaker 1 but there's some suspect things going on, and

Speaker 1 it can be simply that they just don't have enough to get to the Super Bowl. So it's not saying they're not going to get to the playoffs or they're going to, you know,

Speaker 1 not, whatever. They can get to the playoffs, but you see some things that are going to rear their ugly heads when the rubber meets the road and they get to January football.

Speaker 8 Well, it's more difficult right right now because it was a lot easier a month ago. I did call out the Tennessee Titans at that point in time.
I got some flack after that as soon as they won a game.

Speaker 8 And they really haven't looked all that great.

Speaker 8 since that point in time, right? So I'm not going to come back and say I was right, but I do think the Titans are a team that needs to change their philosophy a little bit when it comes to run pass.

Speaker 8 When they go up against a good run defense, throw the ball a little bit more on early downs. And you may see that it opens things up for Derrick Henry later in the game.

Speaker 8 He always seems to turn it on later in the game anyways. But don't get yourself in a hole like they were doing at some points to the Colts.
Remember that game last Thursday against the Colts?

Speaker 8 They came out and they threw the ball on the first drive to work the ball down the field. They had three first down passes to work the ball down the field.

Speaker 8 Only one Derrick Henry run the entire drive, put up seven points. After that, they went 60% run the rest of the way, and their runs were not very effective at all.
They got themselves in a hole.

Speaker 8 The same type of thing happened against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 8 So this is a team when you're talking about can they go the distance in the AFC in the postseason when you might be facing some teams like that, like the Colts or like the Steelers, you've got to come out throwing the ball a little bit more.

Speaker 8 So I still am going to keep them up there.

Speaker 8 The Raiders are an interesting team. I can't wait to see what happens this week.
I mean, everybody's so upset with this bus situation.

Speaker 8 And I think this bus situation is one of the best things that's happened this season because we get like a little rivalry and and then we got Gruden grudin blaming the bus driver i mean i'm sure you guys have discussed this a fair amount or or will but this has been a crazy situation in in denver i'm sorry in uh in in vegas this weekend but i think that this team

Speaker 8 I don't know,

Speaker 8 I like Carr. They had some edges with Carr in the game against the Chiefs the last goal round because of the way that the Chiefs defense was playing.

Speaker 8 They were daring Carr to throw over the top and he was beating them and he was doing that.

Speaker 8 I still don't think that this team is a team that's going to go far in the postseason, even though they're 6-3.

Speaker 8 A team in the NFC that I would probably say the same thing too. We obviously should at some point.
Packers. Did you just whisper the Bears or the Packers?

Speaker 1 The Bears aren't frauds. They suck.

Speaker 1 There's a big difference. The entire premise of asking you this question was to get you to say that the Packers are soft and that the Giants can beat them in the playoffs.
Packers.

Speaker 8 I think this game, so I do want to talk about the Bears with the Big Cat.

Speaker 1 No, they suck. They suck, Warren.

Speaker 8 I just want to talk to you about the play calling with Matt Nagy and Laser. But with regard to the Packers, this is going to be a fascinating game this weekend.

Speaker 8 Will or won't Devontae Adams be able to play? I think that their defense, I know they get a couple corners back, but I think their defense is somewhat soft and finesse a little bit.

Speaker 8 I think that you can have some success on this defense.

Speaker 8 Offensively, though, if Aaron Rodgers gets protection against the Colts, the Colts are set up to stop the run and they're set up to like with their great linebackers of stopping maybe your tight ends or your running back passes.

Speaker 8 But if you have Adams up and if you have Lazard back and playing, I don't know, at least 45% of their snaps, he's going to be on account. He's not 100% healthy.

Speaker 8 they're going to be able to attack this Colts defense in a way that most offenses that have played the Colts haven't.

Speaker 8 So I don't think the Colts have this top five defense that no offense is going to have success against. We saw what Baker Mayfield was able to do against these guys.

Speaker 8 I think the Packers should be able to have a little bit of success through the air here. But in general, I do think that the Packers, while still a very good team,

Speaker 8 are a team that probably will have a little bit of difficulty when it gets late in the season.

Speaker 1 Like that. Okay.
With the Bears, it's interesting because you said Matt Laser. I don't know if that was a Phil Laser.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that was a Freudian slip because when I was watching the game, I was like, they gave up play calling and it looks exactly like Matt Nagy's play calling.

Speaker 8 So are they the same person or was there actually a difference between Nagy and Laser's play calling uh on primetime i i i was actually more frustrated with what i saw on primetime than i was with matt nagy and i was frustrated as shit with what i saw from matt nagy like this is a team that goes out and drafts tight ends they bring in tight ends they have a shitload of tight ends on this squad and if you look at the data it clearly shows that they're significantly better passing the ball from 12 personnel what does 12 personnel do it gives the appearance of a of a potential run it also adds an extra tight end to have in there one running back, two tight ends.

Speaker 8 You're exactly right. And those tight ends can help in pass pro at times.

Speaker 1 Nah, not Jimmy Graham. Good point.
Not Jimmy Graham.

Speaker 1 Are we considering when you do the 12 personnel? Are we counting Jimmy Graham or is that 11 and a half personnel?

Speaker 8 It sort of is 11 and a half because he does not line up in line to run block very often or to even pass pro.

Speaker 8 But the point remains that these guys are great when they throw out a 12 and they're terrible when they throw out of 11. And so what did they do in the game on Monday night? 33 drop backs.

Speaker 8 Only three times did they have less than three wide receivers out on the field. My mind was completely blown by how heavy they went to three wide receivers.

Speaker 8 When your three wide receivers aren't even great beyond Allen Robinson, and you're much better passing the ball from 12.

Speaker 8 The other thing that I want these guys to do, Big Cat, and just pay attention to it the rest of the way, because I know you and I were talking back and forth during the game.

Speaker 8 The whole concept of play action and throwing the ball behind to the line of scrimmage is unsuccessful. It does not work.

Speaker 8 Play action gets the linebackers to hesitate in their drop, to come up and stop the run, to keep their eyes in the backfield.

Speaker 8 When you then throw the ball in front of those linebackers, close to the line of scrimmage, you know, short of the line of scrimmage or close to it, those linebackers are already headed in that direction.

Speaker 8 The efficiency is much worse. The goal of play action needs to be toss the ball above the linebackers' heads, and that's what they weren't doing.

Speaker 8 Every single pass was play action, throw it short, and the defense rallies up and smothers them. I didn't understand what the Bears are doing, but I will just tell you this.
Don't

Speaker 8 absolve Matt Nagy just because Bill Laser didn't do a good job calling plays. The play calling was a problem before.
It's still a problem.

Speaker 8 Just because two guys don't call plays well does not make the first guy right. And yes, the team needs a lot of help.

Speaker 8 And yes, the GM is to blame for most of this, but I still feel like this team is wasting a defense completely. And I wanted to see what their offense would be able to do with good play calling.

Speaker 8 I thought that was going to be Monday Monday night against the Vikings. Unfortunately, it was not.

Speaker 1 No, they stink. They stink.
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Speaker 1 So a team that is maybe not great record-wise,

Speaker 1 but you could see them having a good November, December stretch and getting into the playoffs. And everyone's like, whoa, that was kind of crazy where that came from.

Speaker 8 Yeah, unfortunately,

Speaker 8 there are really only a couple of teams that stand out.

Speaker 8 So they're pretty obvious to anybody. It's going to be the Minnesota Vikings.
Could continue this run. Now, I was on their under before the season started.

Speaker 8 I was not surprised at all that they started that way. They do have a somewhat easy stretch for several weeks.
And so that's a team that could obviously continue doing what they do.

Speaker 8 This Dallas Cowboys game, though, a lot of interesting components in this game because you've got a lot of familiarity here.

Speaker 8 Remember, Mike Zimmer used to coach Andy Dalton, who's your Cowboys quarterback.

Speaker 8 Remember that Mike McCarthy, who's now Dallas's head coach, for years went up against Mike Zimmer's defense in Minnesota.

Speaker 8 So you've got like a lot of familiarity between multiple people involved here that have key roles in deciding the outcome of this game.

Speaker 8 But if Dallas can stop the run, their defense has to do a lot better. They're fifth worst stopping the run on the season.

Speaker 8 If they can stop the run here, I really think that they're going to be able to exploit some things in this Vikings defense that other teams that have played Minnesota recently have been unable to do.

Speaker 8 But I'll still throw the Vikings on this list. And

Speaker 8 then I could easily go and say the New England Patriots could get back on track, but I'm still going to stick with the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they are

Speaker 8 a disaster and lost that game to the New York Giants.

Speaker 8 My belief still with the Eagles Eagles is that if you simplify life for Carson Wentz, reduce the amount of deeper drops where he's running all around in the pocket and trying to do all these complicated things, just drop back and throw the ball.

Speaker 8 Let the receivers do some work after they catch it. Get it into their hands.
Get it out of your hands. They've got Miles Sanders back.
He was

Speaker 8 a big upgrade. You could see it right away.
The punch that he provides running the football that they didn't have without him. Multiple other guys along the offensive line are back.

Speaker 8 You're going to have your tight ends back. Zach Ertz will be back soon.
We already have Dallas Goddard back in the fold. Jalen Rager's back.
So I just think they're getting healthy at the right time.

Speaker 8 So they're a team that obviously has a losing record. I think they're still a game up on in the NFC due to their record right now because they're 3-5 and 1.
And yeah, the tie.

Speaker 8 This could be definitely a team that we're going to see hosting a playoff game. And all I can tell you is this.

Speaker 8 The other teams in in the nfc playoffs are not going to want to go on the road the wild card teams are not going to want to go on the road to philly in the postseason when they're playing healthy uh when they're healthy and playing hopefully better than they are now and have to deal with uh facing the eagles there in the postseason it's interesting they're going to play the giants so yeah we think giants are you got the giants they're decision danny dimes yeah good-ish but i i like kind of the stat that you alluded to like the less time that carson went to the ball in his hands over the course of a football game the more likely the Eagles are to win.

Speaker 1 Like, there are some quarterbacks that you think of, like, Ben Rocklessberg is probably the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 The longer he holds on to it and buys time back there, probably the more points they end up scoring. But with Wentz, I like that idea.

Speaker 1 It's like, if you can just get the ball out of his hands and into somebody else's hands, it's safer, and their offense is probably going to be better off for it.

Speaker 8 And the same thing is true for Washington. Not to interrupt you, but just to share this week, because that's your team.

Speaker 8 Alex Smith, I've studied his drop backs over the last couple of weeks as a starter, and he's taken a lot of three and five step drops from shotgun, and those are very inefficient for him.

Speaker 8 The defense has a lot of time to pressure. The pressure rate's like 40, 45% when he's dropping back.
And we know, I mean, he's coming back from a horrendous injury.

Speaker 8 I'm shocked he's even playing like he is and be able to run around like he is. I mean, I think it's almost a miracle, but you're inviting pressure when you do that.

Speaker 8 And you have a lot of receivers on that team that are really good after the catch. So the goal for them should just be to get the ball out of his hands quickly.

Speaker 8 It doesn't have to be deep balls down the field, throw it dial a few of those up, yes, but a lot of shorter passes. Now, the Bengals have been very good defending running backs out of the backfield.

Speaker 8 So, you're probably not going to see quite as many. Like, McKissick has just been eating targets left and right.
The guy's a maniac because of how much Alex Smith dumps the ball to him.

Speaker 8 But I wonder if they're going to get a little bit more to the wide receivers and 11 personnel on these quicker drop backs, get it out of Alex Smith's hand. Because one of the things he has not lost,

Speaker 8 his brain, his decision-making, his ability to manage that offense um so utilize that and get the ball out of his hands quickly to minimize the impact of his legs on the game i like it yeah use terry mclaurin underrated guy yes yes very

Speaker 1 yes um all right any anything else we should look for this weekend any maybe you don't want to give us a pick but Give us a pick.

Speaker 8 Well, actually, actually, actually, I'm giving away everything. We have, this is the one week of the season that I do a free week.

Speaker 8 So if you just go to sharpfootballanalysis.com, click the banner at the top. Every single thing on the site is free.
So, all the fantasy, we got write-ups on all of the games already.

Speaker 8 And then all of my betting recommendations are going to be posted there as well. So,

Speaker 8 there's a few games I really liked. One of the games that I really liked, I actually liked the over in this Washington game.
It was at 45. It's now up to 47.

Speaker 8 But the rest of the games are up there on the site. But I think Washington should have some success throwing the ball and moving the ball on the Bengals.

Speaker 8 And we know Joey covers, like Joe Burrow is just going to be chucking the ball a ton as long as he can deal with that pass rush.

Speaker 8 As long as he can get the ball out of his hands quickly, I mean, I can't see them scoring too few points to not send this game over that total.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 1 Is there one player out there, and this is just strictly to make us sound smart, like one guy that we should look at who has been underused this year that you think if their team focuses in and is able to get the ball in that person's hand for the rest of the year, you're going to see an improvement in the offense?

Speaker 8 Wow, that's a good question. So I would have to go with a couple of

Speaker 8 a team or two that I thought was going to do better.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 you sprung this one on you.

Speaker 8 You sprung this one on me. I would say the Minnesota Vikings need to throw a little bit more to their tight ends.
We saw what Irv Smith was able to do in his last game out.

Speaker 8 He missed last week, but he caught a couple of tight ends. Tight ends are a great weapon for Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 8 But I will just say this again, and we'll stick with that team. You can't throw the ball too little to Justin Jefferson, too much to Justin Jefferson.
This dude is a complete freak.

Speaker 8 And it just sickens me. And I'm actually, I'm glad my brain finally got here, PFT, because it sickens me to see this offense run the ball first down after first down with Dalvin Cook.

Speaker 8 picking up three yards. The defense knows they're going to run the football here.

Speaker 8 Meanwhile, you got this young buck, Justin Jefferson, who is just destroying dudes on the perimeter of the field, taking short passes, turning them into big gains, catching deep balls, running great routes.

Speaker 8 This guy needs to be featured more prominently in this offense. You don't necessarily need to take away targets from Thielen.

Speaker 8 Just throw the ball more to him and stop running the ball on first downs with Dalvin Cook. That's my advice for the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 I like it. Love it.
All right. So, Warren, thank you.
As always,

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Speaker 8 Sounds good. Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 1 And now, here's Buster.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is James Buster Corley, one of the co-founders

Speaker 1 of Dave and Busters, the most famous place

Speaker 1 in the world. In the world, my favorite.
Yeah, your favorite.

Speaker 1 So I don't even even know where to start. I guess, I mean, we're kind of awestruck,

Speaker 1 but let's start here. So,

Speaker 7 first, let me say I'm jazzed to be on your program.

Speaker 7 I'm now

Speaker 7 forever, right? That's it. So,

Speaker 7 I'm happy to be here, and I'm happy to, always happy to talk about David Busters, whatever you want to talk about.

Speaker 7 Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 So, let's start from the beginning. Let's just, can you just give us the beginning, like how it all started and how it all evolved into being the coolest place for games and fun and eats of all time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, well, Dave and I, Dave and I started out as business partners and along the way became best friends. And he is, I'm godfather to his children.
He's godfather to mine. You know, we started out,

Speaker 7 I think it's important that we started out as business partners first because a lot of times people start out as friends, end up falling out as business partners. So we kind of had to prove up.

Speaker 7 Not only did we sort of grow up together, but we had to prove up to each other in order to, you know, to have this partnership last for as long as it did. So, anyhow, we

Speaker 7 had two places next to each other in Little Rock, Arkansas. And he founded the first one called Slick Willies.

Speaker 7 And Slick Willies

Speaker 7 was a big,

Speaker 7 big ass, really fine pool haul,

Speaker 7 beer, pizza, you know,

Speaker 7 games, early-on electronic games, shuffleboard, the whole thing, right? So sort of as success insurance, he came to me and said, hey, I want to open a place next door to it.

Speaker 7 And so we opened a restaurant called Busters

Speaker 7 that was,

Speaker 7 you know, had full bar,

Speaker 7 lots of food. It was a,

Speaker 7 you know, pretty hip little restaurant early on. We were in an old

Speaker 7 train station, right? Right down the street from the Arkansas State Capitol. So crowd-wise, we had all kinds of people.
And

Speaker 7 in those days, you couldn't have a liquor license and have

Speaker 7 pool tables. So Slick Willies and Busters had to be separate, no common door.
But there was a walkway between the two. And in our infinite wisdom, we sat at the bar.

Speaker 7 and watched our guests go from one place to the other. They go over to Slick Willies for you know intense games and then come to Busters to eat and drink and back and forth etc.

Speaker 7 So we thought hey you know

Speaker 7 what what we need to do is we need to put these two places together

Speaker 7 put them on a bigger scale put them in a bigger market and and and launch this thing on you know the you know what we want to do is something that we could replicate right so we wanted to be sure that we had something for everybody to do and we were trying to do something that had never been done before, which is take the amusements business, the games part of it, and mix it with the traditional restaurant business and have that be a seamless presentation of

Speaker 7 fun and games, right?

Speaker 7 And good food and good bar, right?

Speaker 7 and good sports. And the sports part got to be a much bigger deal for us.
It started out as a big deal, but got much bigger with time.

Speaker 7 Anyhow, so

Speaker 7 we decided that we would try to replicate our success in Little Rock.

Speaker 7 And so we went around trying to raise money and we looked at different locations all over the country, chasing deals, trying to get people to back us.

Speaker 7 We had good reputations, or at least good business reputations,

Speaker 7 and

Speaker 7 had been successful. And so

Speaker 7 while we probably got thrown out of more banks than most people people have ever been into, we finally figured out how to get the backing

Speaker 7 and we did our first

Speaker 7 Dave and Busters in Dallas, Texas, right? Which we thought Dallas was like the perfect business town. It wasn't that far from where we were.
We understood the market, we thought. And

Speaker 7 so in 1982, we opened the very first one.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. I'd say it worked out pretty well.
Genius. You're just next to each other like, hey, this kind of works.

Speaker 1 And I love any story like that that begins with a company that kind of evolves out of how to kind of sneak around a law that many would find unjust.

Speaker 1 You work your way around it, and eventually it leads to something great, innovation.

Speaker 7 Um, yeah, he and I both started out in the business waiting tables, and uh, along the way, he was a dealer in

Speaker 7 a blackjack dealer in Vegas. And you know, just we

Speaker 7 were sort of early on in the hospitality business when

Speaker 7 you know, early rock and roll restaurant bar business usa whatever so anyhow we decided we'd build this we'd try to put together this this combination that would make us so competitive that that you know that it's a tough business the the bar restaurant uh sports bar you name it anything that's in the hospitality business is really difficult i mean you got

Speaker 7 sort of there there are sort of

Speaker 7 three ways to go in our in our industry you either make it big, you lose your ass,

Speaker 7 and the vast majority of places are in the middle. The sort of you work really, really hard for forever and kind of do okay, right?

Speaker 7 So, we have sort of, of course, wanted to be in the top category of you know, doing something that would hit, I mean, as in a major hit, as in something we could do over and over again.

Speaker 7 Well, that's all well and good, but you got to get the first one right, right? So,

Speaker 7 you know, while it was a pretty revolutionary concept at the time,

Speaker 7 and the concept is basically, while the appearance is different today,

Speaker 7 the concept is basically the same. You know, that combination of, the combination of games, bar, sports, good food, good service, on and on, right?

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 we felt like to make it so that it would be very difficult for anyone to copy us, we had to make it big, right?

Speaker 7 And so our first place was 40,000 square feet and it was in an old warehouse in kind of a reasonably

Speaker 7 it was a pretty good neighborhood but it's down the street from a bunch of restaurants but we you sort of had to make the corner to get to us right

Speaker 7 so it was in a viable area but we weren't in the we weren't we weren't up there with everybody else easy to see so

Speaker 7 order in trying to figure out a way to to get people's attention one of the few things that we could buy on credit because i mean the radio stations forget it they want cash right and was a we get we bought a huge American flag and a hundred foot flagpole right and we put it out in front of our place put the flag on because there's you didn't have to have a sign permit right we were actually in the flight path of one of the of Love Field local airport right so I mean 100 feet was as tall as we could we could take it without getting in trouble with the with the Fed so we put the flagpole out there you know lit it at night right And I don't know, maybe it was just, maybe it was, maybe it was, gave us the confidence somehow or another, the stars came into alignment.

Speaker 7 I can't explain it, but it's, it started happening. And when it, once it started happening, then it started happening big time.
And then it hit and then it rolled on from there.

Speaker 1 It's the best billboard that you could put up is a hundred-foot flagpole. You went as high as you could without knocking a planet out of it.
It's a true American dream. I like that.

Speaker 7 Well, it was, it was an it was, you know,

Speaker 7 that's one thing about

Speaker 7 being a visionary, right? People say, oh, guys, a visionary. Well, let me tell you about

Speaker 7 my feeling on that one. People have said, well, hell, you know, you guys have a great idea.
You're a visionary. Well, guess what? The difference between being a visionary and a fool is success.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, if it happens.

Speaker 7 If it happens,

Speaker 7 you're a visionary. You're brilliant, right? Well, if it doesn't happen, you're an asshole.
You know what I mean? So

Speaker 7 there's really, and in our industry.

Speaker 1 It's like going for it on fourth down. Yes.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. Oh, thank goodness.
In our business, in those days,

Speaker 7 because there wasn't anything like it, and it was so damn big, it was a piece of work. And thank goodness it worked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The million-dollar question is: you guys had to come up with the most important marketing aspect was the name. It's Dave and Buster's, not Busters and Dave's.
How did you decide whose name went first?

Speaker 1 Point flip, right?

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 we actually,

Speaker 7 Dave and I actually didn't name Dave and Busters.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 7 No, no, it's a true story. I don't know how many times this has been told publicly, but

Speaker 7 a very dear friend of ours who

Speaker 7 did all the graphics work for Dave and Busters eventually came, once we got big enough, he came and worked for the company and ran

Speaker 7 our whole marketing deal, et cetera.

Speaker 7 He was a great graphics artist and

Speaker 7 he actually is the one that as we were knocking around ideas over what are we going to call it,

Speaker 7 we had the rights to some other names, et cetera. And of course, you know, doing your own place of what anything you can think of might be something that might work, you think, whatever.
And

Speaker 7 our friend, whose name is Dennis Payne, said, listen, man, why don't we just keep it simple? You mean,

Speaker 7 how about this? How about we just, we did, you did the first restaurant, you called it Busters. How about this when we just do David Busters? And so so

Speaker 7 he actually drew up the first logo, which the first time we saw it, we said, that's it. That's perfect.
So it was somebody else smarter than us, I think,

Speaker 7 who came with the name. And it's, you know, and it stuck.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I read that it was a coin flip. So

Speaker 1 are we debunking that myth?

Speaker 7 We are.

Speaker 7 That's in that category of myth and legend, sir.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Because my question is going to be, what'd you call? Heads or tails?

Speaker 7 Well, you know,

Speaker 7 Dave was the gambler of the two of us, so I probably would have let him call it, and I'd back him up no matter what happened.

Speaker 1 Got it. Got it.
And it's one of those things that I guess if history was different, it was Buster and Dave's. You'd be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
But Dave and Buster just always feels correct.

Speaker 1 I think it hits right. Like, Dave and Busters is good because Dave is, you know, the normal name, and then Buster lets you know it's going to be a fun time.
Yeah, listen, Buster.

Speaker 1 How'd you get the nickname Buster?

Speaker 7 Our friend thought that it had more of a natural sound to it.

Speaker 1 How did you get the nickname Buster to begin with?

Speaker 7 Well, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 It's been from birth, right? And it turns out that it was my father's best friend at the time was named Buster.

Speaker 7 My real given name is James Winston Corley, right?

Speaker 7 For me, a funny story about that is

Speaker 7 when I was about to go leave high school and go to college,

Speaker 7 I didn't know what I wanted to do, but I knew I wanted to be a business person. I want to be a businessman, right? And I'm going to go into business doing something.

Speaker 7 And so I went to my father and said, so listen, Dad, I'm thinking about, you know, when I'm going off to college now, people are going to call me something different if I start calling myself something different.

Speaker 7 So I'm thinking about something more distinguished. This whole Buster thing is, you know, I just didn't.

Speaker 7 You know, I mean, I think that like Jay Winston would be good or maybe JayW or how about James W or what do you think? You know, what do you think? And he said, well, I'll tell you what,

Speaker 7 I gave you the name Buster because I figured that if you did right by the name, people would remember you. If you did it wrong by the name, people would remember you.
And

Speaker 7 you'd have to live it right because of your name. He said, you meet a lot of Jims and Bobs and whatnot, but you're not going to meet very many Busters.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So I said, yes, sir. And that was the end of the conversation.

Speaker 7 I love it.

Speaker 7 So it stuck. And it's a damn good thing that it did because I don't think it, had we called it anything other than in my name, anything other than Busters, it probably never would have worked.

Speaker 1 I love the fact that your name is James Winston, like the quarterback. Yeah, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 But Buster is also like a perfect name for anyone in the hospitality business, too, like a bartender or a restaurant owner. It's like Buster.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It feels like you're walking into a place that you know. It's like, hey, there's Buster.

Speaker 7 Easy to remember. Absolutely.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite game all

Speaker 1 in Dave and Busters?

Speaker 7 Well, I'm pretty mercenary about all that, really.

Speaker 7 My favorite game was always whatever took in the most money. So what was that?

Speaker 7 My sport is the bar business. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 My business is the bar business. And so whatever's good for the bar business,

Speaker 7 that's my preference.

Speaker 7 But I guess overall,

Speaker 7 for me personally, I was a big pinball guy.

Speaker 7 All right. So later on as far as the company's concerned probably

Speaker 7 one of the things that we did i think better than anybody else in the world ever then since then that won't be done again was a game called daytona which was a eight player uh daytona 500 simulator some bitch was magnificent they're only i forget how many of them I forget how many of them were built, but when it was licensed with the Daytona Raceway people, the Japanese got so many copies of,

Speaker 7 you know, they were like,

Speaker 7 I don't know, like 400 or 500 maybe, if that many. Because these things were huge and they were very expensive, right?

Speaker 7 Which made it cool because

Speaker 7 not every, just anybody, not just any little joint could do, you know, a Daytona 500. Yeah.

Speaker 7 We had one in each one of our stores and eventually we had to, because the way it was licensed, we had to buy motherboards from

Speaker 7 games that had been

Speaker 7 cast out or whatever from other people in order to be able to, because we couldn't get a license to do,

Speaker 7 they would gear up and build the games for us, but we had to have the original motherboards out of the original games in order for them to be licensed by the Daytona 500 people, right?

Speaker 7 So we kept that alive for years.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 it's a great competitive game, great team sport, company challenge kind of thing.

Speaker 7 Get a lot of, you know, get some friends together and race them. And that's

Speaker 7 probably my all-time favorite.

Speaker 1 Okay. What about, so I love air hockey.
I like playing air hockey.

Speaker 1 And I don't mean to tell you your business, but I feel like an air hockey table that has chairs on either end would just rake the cash in.

Speaker 1 Because the worst part about playing air hockey is you have to stand up for a while. And it's tough to drink a beer while you're playing air hockey.

Speaker 1 But if you had an air hockey table that had like a beer holder and a nice comfortable chair you could sit sit at, I feel like that's a million dollar idea right there. You can take that or leave it.

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 since I'm not responsible anymore, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 Okay, perfect. Done.

Speaker 1 Has anyone told you about the famous Buster guy from the internet that we talked about a few months ago?

Speaker 7 As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, I was watching that just before. I wanted to get a feel for this.
I was watching it just before we came on air, and I'd like to meet this guy. guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Actually, I'd like to meet his girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Maybe give him some free. Maybe give the girlfriend some free

Speaker 1 gift certificates.

Speaker 7 For life, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ooh, is there a, can you do that? Can you make like a

Speaker 7 gift? I'll just wave a wand over it and make it happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a David Buster's like black card where it's like...

Speaker 7 It's the only superpower I have.

Speaker 1 Wait, can we have one? What do we have to do to get one?

Speaker 7 No, no, not yet, but we just met.

Speaker 1 I mean, it doesn't have to actually do anything, but if I just had like a metallic card that I kept in my pocket that said, like, lifetime member, Davin Buster, yeah, do you have one? What is that?

Speaker 1 What is that? I want that. What is that? You can walk into any David Busters and it's just like free reign?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This is actually, this is actually, this one has a few miles on it.

Speaker 7 But I picked it because it's one of my favorite, you know, favorite cards, favorite design, et cetera. So, yeah.

Speaker 7 But no, these things work

Speaker 7 all over the place

Speaker 1 now you put coupons on them game points you know credits of all kinds it's crazy i love it i want one where i can like just show up and at any time like four in the morning be like open this dave and busters i'm here

Speaker 7 now you need to be there about closing time to be there at four in the morning not really get we don't do that anymore yeah what do you there was a time but we're not we're not in it yeah do you still go like secret shopping at dave and busters do you absolutely not not absolutely not

Speaker 7 i'm afraid they'll put me to work yeah

Speaker 7 besides nobody's gonna do it exactly the way uh i would do it or they would do it not to mention both of us would do it so you know if they're they're they're i i no

Speaker 1 what did you think about the always sunny episode about dave and busters the only what now did you watch the always sunny in philadelphia episode about dave and busters you ever seen that i i heard about it and i've seen the clips yes okay what did you think about that when you guys crossed over?

Speaker 7 That was like fantastic. Fantastic.
Philadelphia, Philadelphia was our first big national hit, right?

Speaker 7 We started out in Dallas and then we did Dallas, second store in Dallas, then one in Houston, and then rapid succession, Houston, Atlanta, and Philadelphia. And Philadelphia

Speaker 7 is will always be one of my most favorite stores because it was a massive, massive hit and it is to this day. When we opened it,

Speaker 7 we opened it in the middle of a very rare blizzard in Philadelphia and people stood in line for blocks.

Speaker 7 It's the biggest store we ever built, 70,000 square feet on a pier that sticks out into the out into the

Speaker 7 Columbus River, right? And used to be a

Speaker 7 cruise ships used to dock there back in the day, whatever. And it was turned into a big warehouse.
We took it, split it

Speaker 7 into

Speaker 7 two floors, did parking on the bottom and

Speaker 7 our store, David Busters on top, escalators. I mean, it was,

Speaker 7 it's still a spectacular.

Speaker 1 I know it's good. And

Speaker 7 one of the biggest, not only physically, but one of the biggest stores by revenue.

Speaker 7 So anything for me, Philadelphia, I'm good with it.

Speaker 7 Philly's always got a, that's where that, that Philadelphia put David Busters on on the national map over, hey, this is not just a down south sunbelt kind of thing.

Speaker 7 This is something that should work anywhere. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's in Philadelphia, right?

Speaker 1 It sounds like you've had a lot of success, obviously, with your business.

Speaker 1 There have to have been some missteps, some ones that you wish you could have taken back, or some roads that you tried to go down or tried to implement a new thing that didn't work.

Speaker 1 What's the craziest thing that you thought might work in this restaurant that ended up being like a learning lesson for you?

Speaker 7 I tell you one thing that's

Speaker 7 been one of the best things that ever happened to us was sort of listening to what our customers want, right? And

Speaker 7 you can't

Speaker 7 give everybody what they want all the time right now. But

Speaker 7 if you listen to them, generally speaking, sooner or later they're going to they're going to they're going to show you what their preferences are.

Speaker 7 And originally we weren't big in the party business as in private party rooms, right?

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 we we had an excess, we had too many too many pocket beard tables in the original store, and we had no private party rooms at all. And then one afternoon,

Speaker 7 on the theme of your guests will help you figure out what to do, a group came in in the middle of the afternoon. And

Speaker 7 we get a call from the folks at our front desk who said, hey, we've got a guy here that wants to rent, you know, half a dozen pocket beard tables, but he wants to have a meeting.

Speaker 7 They're not going to play to begin with, they're going to have a meeting first.

Speaker 7 Long story short, it turned out it was a sales meeting, right, and an award ceremony for a sales team from like Xerox, right?

Speaker 7 And so,

Speaker 7 you know, we thought, bam, wait a second, perfect, you know,

Speaker 7 private parties, we need to be in this business. So we, you know, so we went out and borrowed some more money somehow and built this our first

Speaker 7 big private events uh uh room that we call the showroom right and it had stage in it you know tiered seating uh real curtain you know real curtains i mean it looked like a theater right and it was for private parties uh and that ended up being that ended up being like 20 of our total business was private parties it sounds like it was the dundee awards that

Speaker 7 inspired you to do this Yeah, from day one, we didn't think of it.

Speaker 1 We just sort of followed the, we just already did what we did originally we just sort of followed the lead from the customers and you know took it from there are there are you ever worried about dave and buster sharks like the busters guy guys who come in advantage players who can basically rob you blind by winning games there are there have been incidents of that we used to have No, no, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 It's just a funny idea, like, for someone who's incredible at like papa shot to be like, I'm going to take Dave and Busters for everything

Speaker 7 well uh you know there are some people that are just naturally good at this stuff right and then there are some people that figure out how to

Speaker 7 you know they figure out how to either run a small con or beat you at your own game right and we had for some a period of time a uh this is true and this is back in the day I'm sure they're all fine upstanding Americans now, but they were their band of gypsies, right?

Speaker 7 They were like, we'd get to call them Monday, man, the gypsies hit us on Sunday night, you know, that kind of thing, right? I mean, and we'd get wiped out.

Speaker 7 And we had to send, we had to send guys in to figure out how these guys were beating us, right? Along the way, the systems got better, right?

Speaker 7 Where we could actually, you know, sort of use the technology to keep people from getting to us as much. Originally, all the games were

Speaker 7 coin driven, right? And we minted our own money. We had Dave and Buster's chips that really were chips right

Speaker 7 they were like coins the chips were

Speaker 7 they were fabulous because when you when you put them in the game it just it was like Vegas you know had that sound and when you went to the machine to to buy chips I mean they would clank out you know it's like you want it up at a slot machine right and Dave was convinced that that was part of the buzz, you know, that part of the energy and the excitement of playing at Dave and Buster's was playing with these chips and getting them out of that machine.

Speaker 7 Hearing that, you know, it's just like winning. You know, it's like I put my money in, I won right off the bat.
Now I'm going to go out and play them.

Speaker 7 So we were very reluctant, even though we knew it would be a smart thing to do, or we thought it would be, we were really scared about switching over to now. We've got the silent technology of this.

Speaker 7 Are people really going to believe there's something on this card? I mean, today you give somebody a card, they'll believe anything, right?

Speaker 7 But when it went from something I can hold in my hand to, well, it's magically on this card, you know, that was, we weren't really too sure what was going to happen. We just took the risk.

Speaker 7 And when we, when we started, you know, asking our customers, so what do you think? You know, it says, okay, you good with it? You know, I mean, do you miss the chips?

Speaker 7 They were like, oh man, this is great. You don't have to haul these chips around anymore.

Speaker 7 You know,

Speaker 7 it's easy. It's fun.
It's more fun. We're like, hallelujah, right? So that was like a huge leap forward.
It was like to the aviation business, it would be like going from prop planes to jets.

Speaker 7 I mean, after that, man, it was, we could, we could, we could, we could get so much, so much better hold handle out of what actually happened and, and when did it happen, and what time of day, and all that stuff, you know.

Speaker 7 So,

Speaker 1 that's crazy. That's crazy.
Um, this has been fantastic. I, I guess, my only last question is: uh, you guys did at one point in your history, you did like a mock electric chair.

Speaker 1 Was that a mistake or was that something you were cool with?

Speaker 7 That was what Dave deemed to be an attraction.

Speaker 7 That was a,

Speaker 7 you know, give them something they're going to talk about.

Speaker 7 You know, what the hell, you're, you're, you, you, you got your family in from out of town. And, you know, so what are you going to take them? What are we going to do?

Speaker 7 And, you know, it's just one of those, it was just one of those things that, that, uh, it was,

Speaker 7 that one was an oddity, okay?

Speaker 7 we did a lot of things that were that were grander uh more more

Speaker 7 uh more fun but that one just there's something it's i don't know why but for some reason people sort of just

Speaker 7 they're in in awe of that of that whole deal and some people actually thought it was fun or funny etc and i always wondered about it but it would vibrate and there would be like fake smoke that would come out yeah exactly people would have their picture taken stuff i don't know

Speaker 7 but

Speaker 7 whatever makes them happy was pretty much how we tried to approach how we did what we did.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I want to tell you, in looking through your stuff, I saw some

Speaker 7 Mark Cuban interviews. And I mean, you know, he's a Dallas guy.
And I mean, he's one of my heroes, right? So congrats on having him as a recurrent guest.

Speaker 7 I mean, he's one of the most, I can remember meeting him, just Dave and I met him just before, just the season that he bought the Mavericks, right? And he, and

Speaker 7 he's done so much for the city of Dallas, for the game of basketball, for American entrepreneurs and business, period.

Speaker 7 The guys, I mean, besides being brilliant, I mean, he's just, he's just done a lot of stuff, and he gets it.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll get him into a Dave and Busters. When everything's, you know, when coronavirus kind of goes away, we get a vaccine.

Speaker 1 We'll get Mark Cuban in a Dave and Busters with you in exchange for the lifetime cards that you will give me in PFT.

Speaker 7 Well, luckily for me, I already know Mark.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, but we'll get it.

Speaker 7 We'll get it.

Speaker 1 We'll get him.

Speaker 1 We'll do the whole thing together. We'll all get it, and then you'll just slide us the card.

Speaker 7 Let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 You just, yeah, basically, you just name your price to get that card. Yeah, I'll pay.

Speaker 1 Name the price for the card. We'll pay.

Speaker 7 Oh, wow. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I'd have to confer. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I know you've been doing more like leaning into sports recently. Do you guys have a sports gambling partner for when sports gambling becomes legal nationwide?

Speaker 1 Because we would like to extend the services of the Far School Sports Book.

Speaker 7 It's an ever-evolving concept. So, you know, you are in the sportbook business and who knows where the future may take all of us, right?

Speaker 1 That wasn't a no. Not a no.
That was not a no.

Speaker 7 Well, it's absolutely not a no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 7 We try never to say never and rarely say no.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 We appreciate your time, though. This has been awesome.
And we definitely do want to go to a Dave and Busters with you at some point.

Speaker 7 Well, pick a town. Okay.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 1 Maybe all.

Speaker 7 Fuck it.

Speaker 7 Wouldn't that be great? Hey, if you've got a plane, I'll go anywhere.

Speaker 1 Okay. Maybe a bus.
We'll bring them on a bus. We're going to do a deal with like Wheels Up.

Speaker 1 Grit Week going to a Dave and Busters

Speaker 1 in every single state. Yeah.
How many states are you guys in?

Speaker 7 Gee, Minete, like, I don't know, 27, 30.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's Gritwee, John. That's Gritwee.
Let's figure it out.

Speaker 7 Plus, Guinea, plus Puerto Rico, plus, you know.

Speaker 1 And I think it's a fact that no state has ever gone to war with another state that had a Dave and Busters in it.

Speaker 7 That's an absolute fact. And we really

Speaker 7 sort of did Dave and Busters as a public service. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that. Exactly.
All right. Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 Everybody chilled. You know, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
And we'll be in touch. Yes.

Speaker 7 Yes. This was actually a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 7 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Very nice. All right.
We'll be in touch. Thank you so much, Buster.
Appreciate it. Yes, sir.
Say ya. All right.
Stay safe. Take care.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's wrap up the show. Fire Fest of the Week and Billy's parlays of the week.
Go ahead, Billy. Actually, I'll start with my Fire Fest

Speaker 1 because it can then go to you, Billy. My Fire Fest is

Speaker 1 our strongest guy is kind of weak.

Speaker 1 So I listened back to the clip with Rosillo, and I also noticed, I don't know if you noticed this, PFT, but Billy actually said hovering around 285, which means he doesn't bench 285.

Speaker 1 Which 285 is embarrassing. I haven't maxed since I was at college, and you know, the whole lockdown, Jim's pros.

Speaker 1 We're in a pandemic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen, I'm sorry if I'm not that strong right now. 285 is, you know what? Not a good look, my guy.
Big yikes. I just hate it when people say that on Twitter.
Big yikes, my guy. 285

Speaker 1 for a guy that spent four years in a weight program in high school and then three years in a weight program in college. Yes.
I don't know about that one.

Speaker 1 So that's my Firefest. I'm very sad about it.
It is what it is. Our big, strong guy is not big and strong.
Big cat sidebar? I heard that Billy is actually a vegetarian now.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would make it less less.

Speaker 1 No weight guy.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking belly football thing. I lost a little strength.
You lost fat Billy or strong Billy. You went on a diet and stopped eating meat.

Speaker 1 Skinny Billy or strong Billy Street. I also just hit Hail Mary to tie the game at the end of the game, by the way.
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 There were two separate threads that were started on bodybuilding.com forums this week that said that billy football word on the street was he was asking people for vegetarian references are you kidding me no i'm serious dude bodybuilding forum is sick seriously i get like all my information all life advice there yeah about science and and math and everything from them right before you get into your uh can't lose part light have you learned anything about profits uh in the past oh yeah no they i the cal the profits were calculated into the equation the raw the problem was that it was a sum equation not a product equation i saw

Speaker 1 discussion. Some guy said he was an actuary and was basically like, Billy, everything you said is wrong.
No, okay. I believe that.

Speaker 1 He said he was an actuary. So Billy, you guys just forgot to 16.

Speaker 1 Someone asked me the DMs that you sent with him, and they're like, he basically explains to you that if you have $100 and you win $22, you don't win $100. You factored it into the middle.

Speaker 1 This is a glaring mistake. I'm readjusting the math.
That's what Billy said?

Speaker 1 This is a glaring mistake. I checked the spreadsheet and realized that that wasn't the reason why I was wrong.
The reason was because some odds were put as a sum and not a product.

Speaker 1 Anyway, profits are a big part of making money. This is the can't-win parlay for this week.

Speaker 1 Now, remember, you choose the five games and you choose the 500 dogs that are most closest to like being 50% of a pick'em. So, for example, the Bengals this week.
Already lost everyone. Right.

Speaker 1 Bengals, no one, Packers, Brands,

Speaker 1 Houston, Falcons. That's the can't-win parlay.
So, you put 12% of your money on that game. Totally lost already.
Could happen parlay. Bengals, Houston, Falcons.
You put 8%.

Speaker 1 Why don't you just bet

Speaker 1 also happen parlay? Possibly. Packers, Rams, Houston, 7%.
Just in case, parlay. Bengals, Packers, Falcons.
Statistical analysis parlay. Bengals, Packers, Rams.
Billy. Top hinge duo parlay.

Speaker 1 Washington Colts, 21%. And 10% on the statistical analysis.
Billy, can you take down this number for me and put this? Bottom-hinge duo parlay. Buccaneers, Patriots.
Billy.

Speaker 1 Then you move on to the team. Bottom hinge duo.
All the other teams. Washington football team.
Colts, Buccaneers, Patriots, Saints. 4% on each of those, 9% on the Saints.

Speaker 1 Then on the reverse parlay bet, you put nothing because it's statistically supposed to not hit, but it hit last week. I still won money.
Billy, let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 Does this formula make watching football just impact possible? You don't know who you're rooting for. Do you have fun watching football? No, you don't.

Speaker 1 You plugged in 32 outcomes, and then you can, once each outcome happens, you see how much money you stand on winning in that moment. This is big-time vegetarian, Billy.
It's not vegetarian.

Speaker 1 It's not vegetarian. Don't show me if you're a bad man.
You're vegan and you love math. What have you done with my boy? No.
This is just go to at Billy Hottakes. It's a pinned tweet.

Speaker 1 You'll see all the math, the profits. It's all calculated.
It's kind of cool. Put this number down.
Write this number down. 1-800-Gambler.
1-8. What? I don't know.

Speaker 1 There's.

Speaker 1 This makes no sense.

Speaker 1 It's not even fun. It is fun.
You don't even know who you're rooting for. It's fun about

Speaker 1 it. Because I'm rooting for those five underdogs to hit.
And the more that they hit, the more that you make.

Speaker 1 But if you they don't hit you also make money no you don't you yeah you do there i guarantee with this strategy you will not lose all of your money correct the highest amount of money you will lose on a hundred dollar bet so you will only the highest you will lose is 86 percent of all your money which is not a hundred which is better than most people but it sounds to me like there's a better than 50 chance that you lose money It also just sounds like.

Speaker 1 It just actually has a 50% likelihood of being positive. It also just sounds like you want to basically walk away from Sunday being like, but I didn't lose it all.
I lost 86% of it, but not all of it.

Speaker 1 You could go to the roulette table and just put a little bit on every single number. Do you know what you could also do? You could go one in five.
You wouldn't lose it all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. If one of these hits, you're going to make money.

Speaker 1 What's your firefest? Because mine is listening to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone's chirping me for saying I benched 285 currently. Hovering around.

Speaker 1 My max in college was plus 300. You said hovering around till

Speaker 1 I read it. 295.

Speaker 1 You would know that. It was four for my max out because we didn't do one max in the middle.
And that's a good point that Hank made.

Speaker 1 If you knew that you could bench over 300 pounds, you would know that it was like 305, 315.

Speaker 1 You either hit like 295. No,

Speaker 1 it depends on the multiplier because when you're in the middle of the middle. All right, that's your max.

Speaker 1 Okay, too much math from Billy.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're maxing the math. Billy, you're suspended from doing math for the next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, no. We're taking away your calculator.
Wait until this hits this weekend. Okay, I will.
Why don't you come in on a Sunday and we'll...

Speaker 1 Well, I'm coming actually because I don't have school. Great.
We'll see you on Sunday. We'll be on a live stream.
How many have to hit for this to be, like, for this to be good?

Speaker 1 Some, like, legit, only one of them has to hit.

Speaker 1 That's how you calculate it. You lose money.
Yeah, but you also win money.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's the profit thing. All right.
It's not the profit thing. All right, what is your, what's your Firefest PFT?

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest, it's actually for some other people that aren't me, but it is a true Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I read today that there are 300,000 people currently stranded on cruise ships that have been on cruise ships

Speaker 1 in the middle of the ocean since March. No, no, that's not true.
300? No. 300,000, including, I think, 50,000.

Speaker 1 Hang on, I'm looking this up. I think there's like 300,000 people still on stage ships.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, spin zone. No shot.
Spin zone. Vacation.
They've been on extended vacation on. No chance 300,000 people.
And I also read that

Speaker 1 floating around the ocean somewhere. Is that a turnover? God damn it.
The Seahawks are a joke. This fucking.
Oh, no, they bet. I mean, it's plus the Seahawks.
They spend three, right?

Speaker 1 Why would you run that play? Yeah, but now Arizona's about to score. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 1 they're going to score on this drive. Shut up, Billy.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 Billy's excited because he's winning bets and I'm losing.

Speaker 1 But they're also, the cruise industry is looking for cruise passengers to go on board their ships as guinea pigs

Speaker 1 to just see if it's possible to reopen the cruise industry right now.

Speaker 1 So they're trying to get thousands of people to sign up to be a passenger on a cruise so that they can test the new coronavirus protocols. They're even calling them guinea pigs.

Speaker 1 Wait, there's no way 300,000 people though. Like no way.
That's what I read. Why are they asking for

Speaker 1 more people?

Speaker 1 On a website called BarstoolSports.com. Wait, so why are they asking for fucking like KB? Why are they asking for more people if there's already people on chips?

Speaker 1 So here's what it says.

Speaker 1 good good question billy as of september there were still 300 000 people worldwide stuck on ships 50 of which are americans but like 200 i bet you like 290 000 were like actual like fishermen on like only 50 are 300 000 so many oh it's a ton of people

Speaker 1 i've never i i've never really understood the allure of cruises i went on a cruise when i was a kid it was lit a lot of soft service that's where i learned about the grandma and grandpa bingo yeah that's true yeah I feel like there's it's a fun unlimited soft service that's a crazy stat I I I believe you but I don't like I let's it's not you it's the stat is so insane now this was also in the New York Post who sometimes the New York Post writes articles just for the tweet just so they can tweet it out and get like 5,000 quote tweet dunks on it right with the same people making the same joke every time so it might be one of those situations where they're embellishing it a little bit but Jesus Christ I just going on a cruise ship right now

Speaker 1 Forget about the coronavirus. Who would go on a cruise during football season? Dude, how about the people who are fucking working on the cruise that are stuck there?

Speaker 1 That's the people I really feel bad for. Not the idiots that went on, like, hey, I'm going to go on vacation during a pandemic.
How about the people who have to work? You know what?

Speaker 1 This pandemic has probably affected magicians more than anybody else. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 You can't go on a cruise. Yeah, and like hack comedians.
Yeah, you can't go on a cruise ship and wow people your tricks.

Speaker 1 You can't really do a Zoom magic show. It's true.
It's true. So, thoughts and prayers, if you're a comedian, or if you're a magician that listens to part of my take, our thoughts are with you.
Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, we're going to wrap it up and then we'll hit the

Speaker 1 balls. Yeah, we're playing this Among Us stream at four o'clock, and I'm a little nervous about it, if we're being completely honest.
We got this, bro. Why are you worried about it?

Speaker 1 It's not us. It's more just like, you know, it was like Cash App asked us to play.
They said, we'll fill the table. Cash app, cash app, cash app.

Speaker 1 And then they proceeded to give us like the biggest names and gaming people that have played hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours of this game. So that's why I'm just a little bit

Speaker 1 sus right now. You're so sus.
So sus. You're so sus.
Me and Big Cat will be fine. If there's anything that me and Big Cat are really good at, is doing stuff that we have no idea

Speaker 1 what we're doing.

Speaker 1 Doing it confidently and then lying about how good we're doing at it. Which, my understanding is those are the most important things in

Speaker 1 amongst us. We got this.
Amongst us.

Speaker 1 All right. They did say if we get over 20,000, they're going to give away a shitload of money.
Okay. 20,000 viewers.
No, Billy. Not you.
Not to you. All right.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 20.

Speaker 1 I feel like someone's going to get it today.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it. I feel like someone's going to get it today.

Speaker 1 20. I'm feeling good about 8.

Speaker 1 73, says Liam.

Speaker 1 69. 22.

Speaker 1 What is it?

Speaker 1 What'd you say? 8. 20.
22. I'm owing Jake.
I'm riding with you. What'd you say, Liam?

Speaker 1 What'd you say, Jake? 18. Oh! Oh,

Speaker 1 23 was there, but none of us have 23. Did I say 23? 92.
92. Damn it.
Albert Hainsworth. Yeah.
92. Love you guys.
Billy, fun fact.

Speaker 1 Oh, you forget. Cats

Speaker 1 use litter boxes.

Speaker 1 God, Jesus.

Speaker 1 And they can cover up the...

Speaker 1 Okay, you want to talk about Tax Factory? No, the parlay.

Speaker 1 The fun animal fact has suffered because of the parlay. Meat, you know what? Parlay has become a problem.
Meat eater Billy would always have a fun animal.

Speaker 1 I totally eat meat. This vegetarian slander is egregious.
Sus, if I'm a vegetarian, PFT has a personal stylist.

Speaker 1 Sus.

Speaker 1 I've been coming for your lover.

Speaker 1 Fake

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I've already said it's about me stolen away

Speaker 1 Tell them that life is okay

Speaker 1 Say I'm free

Speaker 1 It's the day to be safe and change

Speaker 1 It's the day to be safe and time,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be gone

Speaker 1 in a day or two.

Speaker 1 Have things that you say,

Speaker 1 just to play my value either way.

Speaker 1 You are the things I've got to remember. Be shy and away.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take me

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 I'll be gone.