
NFL Week 7 Recap, Deion Sanders And Fastest 2 Minutes
NFL Week 7. Fastest 2 minutes (2:27 - 8:48). Recapping every game. Seahawks play another insane game. The Falcons invent a new way to lose a game. Baker was on fire. The Steelers hold off on the Titans and we disagree on who the Titans are. Cowboys continue to be laughably bad but Mike McCarthy is now relatable. Cam Newton looked off and the Bucs officially are a problem (8:48 - 101:28). World Series talk (101:28 - 107:11). Deion Sanders joins the show to talk NFL Week 7 (107:11 - 120:50). Who's back of the week and football guy of the week.
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On today's part of my take, week seven recap. The boys, they're not pressed.
They're in a good mood because we had Cardinals late Sunday night. It was a quadruple winner.
Oh, my God. What a game.
We'll recap every single game on Sunday, including that one. We have fastest two minutes.
We have 10, 15 minutes with Deion Sanders. Talk a little bit about what it looks like to have a players-only meeting in the NFL.
Football guy of the week. Who's back of the week? A little baseball talk.
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We start in Cleveland with the Battle of Ohio, and Long Island Ice T. Higgins was trying to rum up the score as Odell Beckham got knocked down and didn't get up again.
And as someone who went to Brown University, I would like to wish my sincerest condolences to OBJ and wish him a quick and speedy recovery. Donovan, here's the church.
Here's the steeple.
Look inside and see all the people's Jones found God in the form of a Baker Mayfield pass
to finish off a thrilling victory in Cincinnati.
And the Cleveland Browns are 5-2.
Huh?
Browns 37, Bengals 34.
What?
In Nashville, where I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my Mike Tomlin, had the team ready to go in the pregame, telling his guys, you don't get to coast until you put in the pedal work. A.J.
Brown-Eyed Girl was a skipping and a jumping, making love in the green grass behind the stadium to the tune of 153 yards, and a score. It looked like Juju Smith, Simon, and Schuster closed the book on the Titans' comeback, but Steven Glansberg-Goskowski had a super bad kick to tie the game and will be standing with all his friends in the post-game locker room.
Steelers 27, the Tennessee Titans 24. Some spread.
In Washington, where we start with a verbal meme, Antonio Banderas Gibson, realizing he's going against the Cowboys defense, sits back in his seat. Yes.
The Cowboys dreadful season is now the CD Lamb Chop song. This is the season that never ends.
Yeah, we got a really shit defense. Jerry hired Mike McCarthy, even though he really sucks.
and will never win a Super Bowl again just because this is the season that never ends. Way down yonder on the Ben DiNucci, Dalton had the starting job for a Scaramucci.
The Washington football team, 25. The Cowboys, 3.
Whip! Eww, yuck. Up 95 to the Meadowlands where, this is your captain captain speaking We now commit to hyperdrive As the Jets scored not one Not two Not three Not four But ten points In a losing effort Not too far from Tony Soprano's old stopping rounds Tyler Big Mouth Billy Bass said Take me to the river Flop around like Darnold.
If you're asking, where have all the Cowboys gone? Paula Cole Beasley is on the Bills, and Buffalo fans are saying, I don't want to wait. For our lives to be over before the Bills win a Super Bowl.
Bills 18, the New York Football Jets 10. In Atlanta, where Raheem Zach Morris wishes he could pause time with 104 to go in the fourth but his running back Todd Squirrely couldn't help but get that nut only to get run over by Matt Stafford with zeros on the clock TJ McCollum Hawkinson step back to freedom and blast it off in Arthur Blank's face and Matt make America parade again walked out after a tough 60 minutes declaring himself the victor.
Lions 23, Falcons 22. In LA where I can't feel my face when I'm Minshew is looking forward to moving on from a bad weekend after Sunday's game.
Justin Herbert went out for a play and Easton Stick Huh? I don't even have anything for that teach. That's just a baseball bat.
There might be a little Jost in the bottle. Herbert is aging nicely.
Jalen Saturday night's all right for Guyton, said. Sorry, Colin Elton Johnson, but the pitch is back as the Chargers get their second win of the season.
Chargers 39, the Jaguars 29. Up to mile high where once you pop, Drew can't lock.
As Byron, don't at me, but sour cream and onion is the best flavor of Pringle, ran a kickback for a score. Jerry Judy Bloom is a good young adult, but Patrick Mahomes is already reading defenses at a genius level.
Seeing my good friend Candy Reed on the sidelines reminded me to be the first to wish all you young kids out there a happy Halloween.
Full-size candy bars at Uncle Schwarm's house for the kids. Do-do-do's for the adults.
You know, the ones that give you the nice pop. They got the codeine boom.
Yeah, the do-do-do's. A little bit of codeine.
A little bit of codeine. They give you a nice pop.
Lions 23, Falcons 22. Standing on the corner Jameis Winston down in Nola Such a fine sight to see It's an old friend my lord With a hog like a sword Goes by the name of Teddy B Come on Jay, Jay Cook.
These corners
stay shook.
It's Michael Thomas
on the hot seat.
Turn in your playbook.
Saints won.
Saints 27. Panthers
24. Saints go marching.
We finish in Arizona where the Cardinals
defense could use our little Bubba Sparks. Boonah, boonah, boonah, boonah, record everywhere.
And he could, he could go all DK. Metcalf catches him from behind to get back that touchdown he gave up against Dallas.
Tyler, you lock it up. No, you lock it up.
Remembered the rule number three for the amount of touchdowns he had. Play like a champion.
No excuses. Russell and Flo Wilson said it's hard out here for a sip as the Seahawks fall to the Cardinals in overtime.
37-34. Hey, boom, we forgot.
No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. All right.
Week seven in the books.
Sunday night football delivered.
The Seahawks should play every single Sunday night.
It just should happen.
It should be a standing occasion because their games make no sense.
And we thought it was going to be the DK Metcalf game because DK Metcalf is the fastest human being alive.
Like, he's scary fast. I know he's not faster than Usain Bolt, but I think he might be.
I thought you could have just ended after you. He's not faster than you.
I know he's not. He is fucking terrifying how fast he is.
Insane. Seeing a dude that size run that fast, and the first 15 meters that he had or 15 yards, the amount of ground that he covered was nuts.
He was almost as fast asiel jones if you look it up with you actually take the look at the uh advanced stats daniel jones ran faster than dk metcalf which tells me i no longer trust the nerd radar the nerds the eyeball test tells me dk is the fastest human being to ever step foot on grass that's like the time i i met the guy at uh wrigley who does the stat cast and i was's the deal behind this? He's like, I kind of guess. You just make it up.
Yeah, I was like, dude, really? He's like, yeah, I have some numbers, but at the end of the day, I'm kind of guessing. Yeah, the NFL had to get us talking about that Thursday night game more, so they just tossed that stat out there that Daniel Jones is like the fastest human being to ever exist.
It's crazy. But you're right, the Seahawks are just insane.
They should play at least every week. They should be in primetime, but it should be.
It's a good Sunday night nightcap. We've basically stumbled this season was weird as it has been.
We've stumbled upon the perfect schedule. Thursday night has to feature an NFC East team.
Sunday night has to have the Seahawks and you have to have two Monday night games and a Tuesday night game. Yes.
And then you have your perfect schedule. That is absolutely the best way to do it.
It was credit to the Cardinals because that felt like a game they were never in a million years going to win. I'm talking from the beginning when the Seahawks just walked down the field and were up 7-0.
We all looked because we all took the Cardinals. We're like, there's no chance the Cardinals can win this game.
And they just hung around, and they hung around. And Kyler Murray, I don't know what it is.
There's not many quarterbacks right now who can go from, has this guy ever played football, to, oh, my God, he's the greatest ever, as quickly as Kyler Murray. Yeah.
No, every play he is definitely in danger of either fumbling the ball and getting hit after just standing in the back of the pocket for 10 seconds or scrambling for like 20 yards or hitting a guy on like a long pass for 40. That, that, that, uh, he made some incredible passes, but that throw when, uh, the Seahawks threw an interception and then the next throw, he threw one, one of the worst passes all weekend.
Right. Like it was, and I'm counting college football too.
It was that bad. Yeah.
But that's Kyler Murray. Like he's a young quarterback figuring it out.
And I definitely think that he's going to be around for a very long time. But there are times when you're like, what is going on right now? A little fun stat about the game tonight.
This is the first ever matchup of two sub six foot quarterbacks who both passed for over 250 yards. Oh, wow.
So this was actually a huge win for the 5'9 community over the 5'10 community. The same weekend that the app comes out on the iPhone where everyone can now just point it at people and get their height? I'm actually looking forward to that because that'll just reveal me.
There's a big... There's conspiracy theorists out there that think that I'm like 5'5", 5'6".
Right. So the more I get cameras pointed at me, the more the truth comes out where, oh yeah, he was only lying by one inch.
He's 5'8". Well, and also you got your lifts in.
I am wearing the lifts right now. The Zoom 720s.
Yeah. But, yeah, it was it.
I have another fun fact for you. Ready for it? If the playoffs started right now, the Bears would be the one seed.
That is a very fun fact. Isn't that a fun fact? So you guys have home field into the Super Bowl.
Yes. Not going to apologize for that.
Now, we haven't played yet. We still got to play Monday night.
And also, there's more than half the season left. Yeah.
But we'll just, you know, take it. What's the old saying? Like, if you don't stop and smell the roses every now and then? You got to appreciate where you are as a Bears fan.
If you don't stop and claim one seed after six, seven weeks, what's the point of watching football? Knowing that it's all going to fall apart but who cares? You should become like full on Corona bro at this point and
advocate for the season to be shut down
so that way when it does restart, oh we
have to only do the playoffs, Bears are the one seed
I might put up a
banner, I might put a banner, if the
playoffs started after six weeks
or seven weeks pre
Monday night game, Bears would be the one seed
banner
I got a verbal meme for you, the little
guy who pokes his head around the corner whispering
Thank you. Yeah? The little guy who pokes his head around the corner whispering, Josh Allen for MVP back on.
Now that Russell Wilson threw three touchdowns in a primetime game. Did you watch the Bills-Jets game? We'll get to the Bills-Jets game in a little bit.
I'm just saying. I don't think so.
This game will definitely be a point, like a factor for people to look at and be like, yeah, I'm not going to vote for Russell Wilson. If anything, it's probably Aaron Rodgers back on.
Right, right. But still.
Oh, wait. So the ending, though, we got to talk about this real quick.
So, well, one, I think Russell Wilson, I hate to be the guy who like when a really good player plays poorly at any point, you're like, well, he must be injured. But I think he got fucked up on that Vance Joseph blitz
where he sent the house on that third down,
and just no one was there to block him.
And so the pick to Isaiah Simmons,
which was an incredible play by Isaiah Simmons,
but Russell Wilson looked a little off in overtime,
which, great point by Jake,
I do not know why they made it 10 minutes. It makes no sense.
Like, player safety? Yeah, there's really— Player safety, five minutes? There's really no point to it whatsoever. All it does is increase the amount of ties, which I'm okay with, for the record.
Like, I'm okay with having a few of those ties to screw things up. I guess it also increases stupidity because Cliff Kingsbury took a page out of Matt Nagy's playbook, who did this last year, this exact same thing on second down when you can get more yards and decided not only could he get more yards, but he could waste more clock.
And he decided, nah, fuck it. I'm going to kick it on second down like a 40-plus yarder with 230 left.
I get why you do that on third down.
That would make a little bit of sense because then you could spike it if you needed to. Burn some clock.
Yeah. And then he iced his own kicker because they took too long getting the snap off.
Yes. Had to call a timeout on him.
But, yeah, they ended up working out for the Cardinals. I agree with you that Seahawks are just – they need to be featured in primetime.
It's just so much fun. I would like to see a study done of fan bases and see which team actually affects the lifespan of their fan bases mostly because I think that probably being a habitual smoker of crack cocaine is healthier for you than being an active Seahawks fan.
I don't know. Browns fans probably are number one lowest life expectancy.
But yeah, it's a different life. It's a different shortened life.
The Seahawks are like burnout. The Browns fans are just dying.
Just like slowly. Yeah, just eating like terrible.
I'm saying not eating terrible food, but like eating terrible football that will just kill you like from inside out. Well, also more you away.
More pierogies. I think eating worse food is probably right.
In Seattle, they get at least a lot of fish sushi they stay healthy the the seahawks like if if you just put them on on a sunday night like you can guarantee a few different things it's russell wilson throwing a moon ball that you've never seen before and you're just like how the fuck did he do this some insane catch by tyler lockett or dk metcalf the seahawks being down and then the seahawks being able to come back. And this one was reversed because they were up and they lost the game.
But the Seahawks are, I think, the pinnacle team in the NFL right now where no matter what the situation is, you're like, shit's going to get weird. Shit is going to get weird.
If they're up by 10, shit's going to get weird. If they're down by 10, shit's going to get weird.
The Seattle Seahawks are playing Mario Kart. And if you're in a spot,
you're going to get a lightning. And if you're in the first
spot, you're going to get hit by a blue shell.
And DK Metcalf got three mushrooms when he
was chasing down Buda Baker on the sidelines.
It's crazy shit like that. Shout out
to Larry Fitzgerald for
being out there.
Not only is he out there, but he's playing
X, he's playing the Y receiver, he's in the slot. He's also the side judge who's now in charge of spotting the balls.
Yes. At the end of the game.
He was a ball boy. I don't know if you knew that.
Yes, yes, for the Vikings, right? Yes. I don't know if you knew that.
When they had Ray Maas on the team. Yeah.
He is, like, he's done this, I think, three weeks in a row where he will run directly over to the side judge and, like, hand them the ball and help them spot it to get, to get an extra two or three seconds. Smart.
Very smart guy. Yes.
And it also confuses me because Larry Fitzgerald and DeAndre Hopkins, like we talked about with Madison and Dalvin Cook, when they catch a deep ball, it takes me a second to be like, who caught that? Well, yeah, if the guy is fast, then it's DeAndre Hopkins. Right if he's just got a big ass big ass thick as hell catches everything it's larry fitzgerald yeah so so that was uh sunday night football which was fantastic so we're going to recap every game we'll talk a little baseball too we got deon coming up packed monday show and we will start with the atlanta falcons which the lions beat them 23 22 we have joked that the Falcons invent new ways to lose every single week it is not a joke the fact that they lost the game by Todd Gurley his momentum taking him into the end zone which was essentially like a reversal of the famous Todd Gurley going down against the rams versus the packers a year or two ago i it's incredible it is incredible that they lost that way if todd girley just goes down they win that game not only if he just went down if he had went down feet first yes that would be technically giving himself up so the way that he fell he just he realized it a half step too late and just kind of collapsed onto himself and the ball crossed the line at the last second.
If he had just gone feet first, it's from where you start your slide, right? If you give yourself up that way. Yeah, so I have no way to prove this, but I think he did that on purpose because the Falcons stink.
They're not going anywhere. Scoring touchdowns is cool.
It looks good for your stats.
And the reason why I truly think this,
I actually said out loud when we were watching this game,
I think the Lions were almost trying to let them score the two plays before.
They were playing very loose defense
where they were kind of doing like an Ole thing
where if anyone had actually broken it, they might have let them score. It's tough to tell the difference between that and normal Matt Patricia.
That's true. But I it and maybe maybe I'm way off.
Maybe it's simply the fact that the Falcons are the Falcons and they have the lowest situational awareness on a football field of any team ever, because how how you don't say that to everyone in the huddle beforehand, like, hey, there's a good chance they're going to let us score here because the only way they can win this game is if they get the ball back and still he's going full-blown through the hole while the Lions were just walking away from him they were about to like pick him up and tackle him in there yeah it was crazy so I all it tells me is that Todd Gurley doesn't watch college football I just saying... Because if he had watched any highlights from Saturday, he would have known, go down on that exact same play.
Things aren't going to end up well for you. And then it became a fight to see who could make the biggest boneheaded error because after that happened and the Lions go all the way down the field, they score.
Danny Amendola has a 15-yard penalty against him for unsportsmanlike conduct. So they had back the kick up and that would have been the most Lions way ever to win a game is losing or tying a game that was handed to you after Todd Gurley just made a Lions type mistake in your favor find out for me Jake Todd Gurley I don't know if these are listed but bonuses for touchdowns I was also going to say Florio tweeted Todd Gurley, quote, mad as hell, unquote, about scoring late TD.
Yeah, that's smart. That's smart to fake like you're mad.
Yeah, because he's in a new tax bracket. That's why he's pissed off.
God damn it, Jake. Sometimes you're just so young and dumb, and I don't mean that in a mean way.
Like, you believe that. Like, Todd Gurley.
Todd Gurley probably walked in the locker room and said, I'm mad as hell. Yeah, well, Jake believed it because it was from our friend, a journalist, Mike Florio.
Not us, guys with brains and maybe shit for brains but we have brains and eyeballs and we have the fan sense. So the Falcons have also broken math.
They broke numbers this year. They've played, out of their seven games, they've lost three games when they had a greater than 90% chance of winning.
No, it's 98%.
98% on win probability, which I think win probability is bullshit.
I agree with that.
It's total bullshit.
It's kind of in the same pile for me right now
as judging Daniel Jones' speed in the open field.
I think they just come up with numbers in that way
because it feels like every week there's a team
that has a 99% win probability that ends up losing the game.
Well, and win probability can't count for a team being so situational awareness like illiterate. There should be a sliding scale for it.
Right, like the Falcons should never be over 10. The Falcons should never have a 98% chance of winning a game ever.
Right. Like it just, it shouldn't.
This is why we're smarter than computers. Computers and robots will never beat us for this simple fact.
They actually think that the Falcons have a 98% chance of winning a game that we know as human beings. That's not true.
Computers don't do stereotypes. Like the Falcons are up by 20.
It's a 50-50. Yep.
It's 50-50. I agree that It should be, yeah, for the Falcons, there should be a cap on it until you get within a minute.
And then in the last minute of the fourth quarter, it should go all the way up to 25 until the last minute. Yes.
But never above a quarter. Yes.
Do you find something? All I'm seeing is a $2 million signing bonus, but it does say incentives, $3.5 million. I just want to find the details.
We'll look into that. Yeah, for how many touchdowns against the Lions? I'm just saying mad as hell.
Just mad as hell makes me – like if Florio had said Todd Gurley was despondent or when Todd Gurley was emotional in the locker room, I'd believe it more. But mad as hell? Mad as hell is the fakest mad.
That's actually cartoon mad when you're like, I'm mad as hell. This piano fell on my head.
Yeah, he's got steam coming out of his ears like a tea kettle. Yes.
It was heard across the locker room. Give it to me, Jake.
April 7, 2020. Regarding the incentives, Gurley gets the full 500K with 13 TDs or 1,000 rushing yards.
Okay. I'm telling you, man.
I'm telling you. He was cut.
There's really no point. And there's really no point for him to not score that touchdown.
And if you're thinking like in the long run, the Falcons aren't going to make the playoffs this year. It's actually better for the Falcons to get a better draft pick.
Yes. They're going to need a Trevor Lawrence, or they're going to need a Daniels, or they're going to need a Trey Lance when they move on, particularly from Matt Ryan.
So, yeah, I didn't think that he did it on purpose, but you're winning me over. Listen, you'll never be able to prove.
This is a great debate, a fan debate, that you'll never be able to prove one way or another. But the only reason I thought of it was because of the plays before when it felt like the Lions, it was clear what they were going to do, what they were trying to do.
How many touchdowns does he have? That's five out of 13, so he's on pace to be there. Interesting.
It's also way more suspicious because there was that classic example of him doing the exact opposite thing. Correct.
And being super situationally aware. Which could be coaching because Sean McVay is a good coach.
If he did not do this on purpose, he's going to be very confused to see the level of hate. People are going to be pissed off at him online and he's going to think back to the last time he did and he's not going to know what the right thing to do is he's going to be a very confused boy right so we need to at least give some credit to the other side so Matthew Stafford who I've always been a fan of because I think he's a good quarterback that's in a bad situation 75 75 yards and 64 seconds for the touchdown for the game-winning touchdown drive that was like vintage Stafford that was a great moment that was a great like he is a guy he's he's in a small list of guys in the fourth quarter with the ball down and like no you know no time outs you can trust him to get the ball down the field so he needs to to get some credit.
And remember what I said on Friday, little baby, little baby run. Lions are going on their little baby run.
Their schedule opens up a little bit. This is the start of their little, itty, tiny, cutesy, wootsy.
They're taking their first steps. Tiny little baby run.
They're 3-3 now, which you wouldn't have thought after like week one and week two they go up to Green Bay and they go up 14-0 and they get absolutely shit pumped. So, again, Colts at Vikings, Washington football team at Carolina, at Houston.
Little bitty tiny little baby run. What did I say? They were going to go.
I said they were going to be 5-5 going into the Texans. We said that on yes they were going to be competitive yes on Thanksgiving five and five on Thanksgiving going in playing against the Texans and I mean look with the NFC East being so so terrible and uh you know obviously the NFC West is awesome but the three and three you're in it like three and three is not you're not out of this thing it's still very early with seven teams you're very much in this so uh credit to the lions for for coming back and matt patricia he's got to find a new like he's wearing like a poncho thing that is essentially like a baseball tarp well like they tarp out right when it rain delay at that size like it's crazy.
The only thing that can fit on you with a neck hole that's the appropriate width and girth is something that's going to kind of fall down at an angle to make it look like a poncho. You're basically stuck with, you can go with a blanket.
You can go with like the five XL white tees that you can buy in a gas station. And that's it.
I think if you looked underneath his tarp at any given moment, there's like the 6-foot, 18-year-old summer intern from the ballpark, 6-foot, 115 pounds, who always gets swallowed up by the tarp. If you just shook Matt Patricia, one of those kids would fall out.
Like, I'm just here for credit. I'm just here at this single A ball a a ball uh team for credit maybe it's me but has Matt Patricia has he just ditched the pencil entirely I think so I have pencil isn't funny when you suck I haven't seen the pencil recently I don't know if it's like the mask that he's wearing maybe if you put the strap over your ear it makes it difficult to fit the pencil in there yes I need to know from Matt, if you're listening to the show, what orifice are you stashing the pencil in?
Yes.
Yeah.
Where's the pencil guy?
Probably belly button.
Probably in the tarp.
I would think belly button.
It's in the tarp.
You shake them.
Yeah.
You get change.
Jimmy Hoffa.
A cat's going to fall out.
Yeah.
All kinds.
Like a skull.
An old skull.
Yeah.
Like a cat.
Maybe a cat's skeleton.
Two buttons.
Some string.
Mm-hmm.
Yarn.
Yes.
That falls out of there.
I'm sorry. A skull, an old skull.
Yeah, like a cat. Maybe a cat skeleton.
Two buttons, some string, yarn falls out of there. A dip bottle without a cap on.
Another t-shirt that he forgot to take off like six years ago that just finally wore its elasticity off. It would just all fall out of there.
So, all right, that's Lions, Falcons. Just incredible stuff, Falcons.
You're just... And the jersey is terrible.
Like, I don't know. That was one of the least visually aesthetic games I've ever watched with the weird color of their turf.
The... What do you call them? The gradient? What is it? Gradient? Are you talking about the Falcons uniform? Yeah, the gradient.
The Falcons gradient red. It looked like their entire bodies were infected.
Like it was some sort of old frostbite that they hadn't taken care of that was gradually oozing at the top. It was a weird look and then combined with the all grays.
The Lions all grays. Yeah.
Really weird stuff. The whole thing was just disgusting.
Just a disgusting look. It looked like if you simulated a game on Madden, like a preseason game.
Or like when you can make your own franchise and you're the Tiburon Sharks or something. Yeah, you're like a defunct EuroLeague team.
Yeah. Ugh.
All right. Browns-Bengals.
Browns 37, Bengals 34. Baker-Mayfield was awesome.
So he starts 0 for 5. Odell Beckham gets hurt.
Now the take is going to, I mean, someone's definitely going to use this take that he's better without Odell Beckham.
Yeah, I was actually going to say that.
Yeah.
And then he finishes, he goes 22 of 23 for his final 23 passes.
297 yards, five touchdowns.
And the one incompletion was a spike.
Right.
So he was incredible. It was a productive incompletion.
On fire. On fire against a bad Bengals defense, but still, like that's – if you're a Browns fan, not only are you 5-2, but that's the type of game that you've been waiting to see from Baker for a while now where you're like, let him just go out and win a game and be incredible, and Odell being out, like it makes it even more impressive.
I don't like that the media has put so much expectation on the Browns that they're making them feel like 5-2 is a bad place to be. Like they should be better.
No, I think it's the opposite. I think that there were expectations coming into this year.
Anytime that you have Baker playing for the team, since he's like a guy that he's in the he's in the media a lot. He's on like all the Hulu commercials and progressive commercials.
People are always talking about Baker being like he should be the guy that's, you know, taking you guys to the playoffs.
Five and two, fucking celebrate if you're in Cleveland.
You guys had beer fridges that were stored around your town for the moment that you won a Thursday night game against the Jets.
And it was a big celebration.
Like, don't let anybody take away the joy of five and two from you, Cleveland. Well, I totally disagree, though.
I think it's the opposite. I think last year is what you're describing.
This year, like, last year everyone was hype. I think this year everyone was like, dude, they suck.
Well, after a couple weeks last year. And then they got killed by the Ravens week one.
Yeah, week one this year. Yeah, so everyone's like, fuck the Browns.
They're terrible. This team sucks.
So I think it's, like, looking at them at 5-2, I do think people we're 5-2. This is incredible.
They should be. I'm saying you should feel that way.
It was mostly like ESPN for the last couple weeks or saying things about Baker and all that. I disagree with the ESPN take.
I'm just telling Cleveland, go off, Kings. Not great news for the Bengals.
Carlos Dunlap put his house on sale on Twitter right after the game was over he said 6,000 square foot city view with huge balcony four bedroom, four and a half bathroom in one of the best school districts for sale do your market analysis, make me an offer serious inquiries only with proof of funds I love that he's definitely going to sell that with Bitcoin he immediately put his house on sale because he's like, fuck Cincinnati. I've been here for nine years, but this is too much.
I'm out. So the Bengals, Joe Burrow, and we've talked about this before, but he's running for his life.
Now, we should give a little bit of context that the Bengals do have four out of five of their day one starters have been out with injury. So it a revolving door there it's bad the offensive line is bad but if you're looking for positives Zach Taylor looks pretty competent uh Joe Burrow is the guy I've upgraded him actually yeah he was that dude now he's the truth yeah yeah Joe Mixon didn't play today and you were in this game and then you then you have T.
Higgins, who looks very good, young receiver. Tyler Boyd, young receiver.
I don't know where A.J. Green is going to be in a year or two, but there's at least some, like, we've had this theme every time we talk about teams that are really down.
If you could have one or two things that you can point to that, like, okay, this is what we'll be looking forward to, it doesn't feel as bleak. And I feel like that's definitely the case for the Bengals, especially the fact they're in every game.
They're fighting every single game. I think what we're looking at here is a team with a lot of young offensive talent, a team with no real defense to speak of, and you're losing your guys like Carlos Dunlop, Geno Atkins.
Again, we don't know where Gino is. Gino could be buried in Carlos Dunlap's basement somewhere for all we know.
But like, if you're hemorrhaging talent on that side of the ball, you're kind of being set up to be the next Falcons or the next Lions because you're going to have a good quarterback for a while. You've got some really fucking fast receivers.
You've got a good running back too. They just have the draft.
Well, you just got a it's easy come on cincinnati so easy no big deal so easy to do but i i wanted to not be negative about the bengals because i do think there are positive pieces and they're like next year will be big because next year if you hope maybe they can trade aj green get some draft picks whatever it may be but next year you hope they start winning a couple of these close games because they've been in them they've been in a lot of these games where like you know last week they're up 21 nothing against the colts they've been in games where it feels like okay they're a player two away um so and that's credit to joe burrow and i you know if they get some health on the offensive line maybe they'll win some games later on this this year. Maybe they'll do...
That's like the backup to... Or actually, the best thing, where the Bengals are at right now is not good, actually objectively bad, but things to look forward to.
The next step is winning four out of five to finish the season and being like, this thing is... We're cooking here.
Sleeper team going into next year. Yeah, so that's still ahead of you.
If you can get some health on the offensive line and figure a couple things out, at the end of the season, you rattle off a couple wins because once you have your quarterback, you're not playing for a draft pick. You are playing, obviously, you still want a high draft pick, but you're not playing for the number one pick anymore anymore.
You're not like let's tank, let's tank, let's tank. Tanking is for quarterbacks.
Imagine that luxury to be a Bengals fan and to be drafting not like at a best player available level but just drafting for need. You're like you know what we need a defensive tackle.
That would be a nice spot for a change. Here we go Bengals fans.
We We're going to keep it going, okay? Keep the positive vibes going. The end of your season, Washington football team, Giants, Dolphins, Cowboys, Steelers are going to lose, Texas and Ravens week 17, which they're not going to probably be playing for anything because they'll have like the fifth seed locked up.
So they could be one of those teams.
Just get ready for that.
If the Bengals have five wins at the end of the season,
I feel like that's a moral victory.
I think they will have five wins at the end of the season.
I think they'll have four wins at the end of the season,
but five wins because you count it as a tie, as a win.
So three more not losses.
Right.
Five not losses.
That's a great season in Cincinnati right now. Yes, five not losses.
And you've got a guy who's the truth at quarterback. Yes.
He's got the future. Okay.
You see the picture of Joe with his family back like they went to a game in Cleveland. I want to say it was I don't know seven, eight years ago.
Or it was right before he went to OSU. And he looked like he actually looked like a seventh grader.
And he was like just standing on the field in, and I think his brother was like today something like, we're no longer Browns fans. You're like, fuck the Browns or something along those lines.
It was just nobody has aged more in their – like had as much of a glow-up in their college days as Joe Burrow did. When he went there, he looked like he was 12.
When he got out, he looked like he was 30. Yes, yes.
He's a good-looking dude. All so that's browns bangles oh one last thing donovan peoples jones you might remember him from all-time gus johnson name on big noon saturday uh was supposed to be like a stud of studs at michigan he was good but i just love the name because it's just it's the gus johnson name people donovan peoplesoples.
Jones. He loves having three names to say.
Texas is bad. Yeah.
He loves having three names to say. So that was a hell of a catch and a hell of a throw to win that game.
All right. Steelers Titans.
Well, I think we're actually going to disagree here. I thought the Steelers were going to win the game.
The Steelers won the game.
And they kind of just fucked around in the second half.
I still don't think the Titans are top-level AFC.
Oh, I'm respecting the Titans.
I didn't come away from this game.
They fought hard.
They stunk in the first half.
The Titans stunk.
I know.
So the two things that stick out to me with the Titans are they have,
and maybe they'll just have a horseshoe up their ass this year
because there are teams that just get the lucky bounces.
They had two turnovers that were just kind of lucky bounces.
They won the turnover battle 3-0 in this game and still lost.
And the other thing is they are the worst team.
And I'm not saying this.
This is not my opinion, Titans fans.
Don't get mad at me yet.
I'll see more things you can get mad at they are the worst team in the NFL on third down defense, they're so so bad the Steelers were 13 of 18 today they were worse coming into the game and they probably are even further into like 30 seconds. I'll bet you right now, Mike Vrabel is like, why the fuck did I sign Jadavion Clowney? It's just because I worked with him down in Houston for a little bit.
So I just, that's I think Tannehill's good, very good. I think obviously Derek Henry's incredible.
AJ Brown, when he's out there like that touchdown was awesome. And they're very well coached.
But the defense makes me pause at saying they are at the Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens level at the AFC. Because you can't win if you're that bad on third down.
But wait, didn't that exact same defense, for the most part, beat the shit out of the Ravens in the playoffs last year? Yeah. That's why I think that they can put it together.
But again, I just don't know if it's a hot run. I'm just talking about what I'm watching, and if we're putting it into tiers, I'm not saying the Titans are bad.
I'm saying there's a tier of Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, and I think there's a step down to the Titans. I think that the Titans and the Steelers are at about exactly the same level.
But did it feel like the Steelers were on cruise control? They just kind of... They fucked up that second half.
The angle I'm taking is that as shitty as the Titans played in the first half, they were able to come back and almost win the game or tie the game in the second. Basically saying, yeah, they sucked ass in the first, but I'm throwing it out the window.
Watching the game, I feel like they got a couple bounces that were like, their luck is just never going to run out. They were asleep for most of the first half.
Big Ben was doing all his weird throws where he's at his best when he just goes full-on panic in the pocket, and there's two guys draped on him.
He just throws the ball out there and gets killed.
He's falling down.
It's a big tree falling down, and he just chucks the ball in a general direction.
I was looking forward to the Titans maybe winning this game because I think that if they had,
we would have the conversation of Ryan Tannehill.
Is he elite?
Is he in that top tier? He's still in the mvp race i mean he wasn't incredible today but he was still good and you know he didn't turn the ball over so i i still think the titans are good they're obviously going to get to the playoffs they're obviously going to win a bunch of games and guess what titans fans the best part about this is in two weeks the titans play the bears so we get to do this bunch of games. And guess what, Titans fans? The best part about this is, in two weeks, the Titans play the Bears.
So we get to do this. And you get to tell me how long I am.
You get to call Big Cat a fraud. And you get to tell me I'm an idiot, even though I've never claimed that the Bears are incredible.
But yeah, I just, I think the Titans are good. Not great.
I walked away from it being like, the Steelers, if the Steelers had just focused for 60 minutes, this would have been a three-touchdown game. Yeah.
I also liked in the second half when it looked like we were watching the game on a VCR. Yes.
Or it was like the 1990 Earthquake World Series. Yes.
Where just like these weird patterns were floating across my TV. I had no idea.
I thought it was like a filter that they put on the TV as I was watching the Red Zone channel. That was kind of nice.
And then I wanted to give a Gostkowski Hall of Fame update. Second ballot now.
Yes, second ballot Hall of Famer. I agree with you there.
Second ballot misses it. The woes continue.
Where I think Mike Vrabel's going to get fed up and just be like, we're not kicking like he did last year. He should have done that after the Broncos game this year.
And Vrabel's such a good coach because you are right that they did,
like coming back, that's a good coach team to not lay down and just die.
And for all the Titan fans that are very much going to get mad at me,
I will say that I have the blessing of Taylor Luan
because I talked to him after the game and I was like,
I think I'm borderline maybe going to start respecting the Titans.
And he was like, I'd actually appreciate you not
because from everything that I've seen, once you respect a team, they suck.
Thank you. him after the game and I was like I think I'm borderline maybe going to start respecting the Titans and he was like I'd actually appreciate you not because from everything that I've
seen once you respect a team they suck
and I was like good point that's true yeah
so good point I'll keep negging
the Titans they'll keep winning
I'll keep looking like an idiot
theme of the show I'll disagree I will
respect the Titans I will give you I'm
going to respect it that way they can't get mad at the entire
podcast yeah no that's okay listen we can
disagree on that I think it always takes
me a long time to ever respect the Titans just
Thank you. I'm going to respect the Titans.
I will give you that. I'm going to respect it.
That way they can't get mad at the entire podcast. Yeah, no, that's okay.
Listen, we can disagree on that. I think that's fair.
It always takes me a long time to ever respect the Titans just because of their color scheme and uniform, and the general aura around the Tennessee Titans as they've been in the past. Yes.
I guess they still have a little Jeff Fisher musk on them. Yeah, and I also, they're 1-5 against the spread.
I don't count win against the texans against the spread because that was a bullshit that they won by six in overtime but they're so if you count that is not a win like i just did they're one in five against the spread and so you know that that matters for me my big question is how did the steelers get this schedule the steelers the steelers don't play anybody ever yeah outside of their division i I mean, well, buddy, you just disrespected the Titans. I said besides the Titans.
Yeah, but it's... The Steelers don't play anybody ever.
Outside of their division. I mean, well, buddy, you just disrespected the Titans.
I said besides the Titans.
Yeah, but it took you a second.
You just disrespected the Titans.
No, they do not.
Their schedule is insane.
How does this happen?
Mr. Rooney has some explaining to do.
I have a little tiny little future on the Steelers.
It's a nice price.
They've played a ridiculously easy schedule.
The Giants, Broncos, Texans, Eagles, Browns.
And then besides the Ravens.
Which is going to be a great game next week.
That's going to be a very big game for both of those teams.
They have to play the Ravens twice.
And then they have to play the Bills at the Bills.
Besides that, they should win all their games.
Yes.
According to teamrankings.com, 30 of 32.
There you go.
Who's number 32?
Colts.
Oh, interesting.
That's just because they get to play the Jaguars and the Texans twice.
Yes.
And who else is in the AFC?
They have a really strong opponent down in Nashville, yeah.
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All right, back to part of my take. Okay, Panther Saints, I did forget one thing I wanted to throw out there for the Steelers-Titans.
I totally forgot. So the Steelers with a 20-point lead.
The only reason that this is a relevant stat is because we talked about the Falcons' win probability and how terrible it is. The Steelers with a 20-point lead in the history of their franchise, 213-0.
Jesus. The Falcons have lost point lead game this year that's insane yeah i mean it's it's it's crazy because you think like oh 20 point lead you should never lose that but of course 213 games at some point you'd lose it but no 213 just run the ball the only other note i had on this game uh the head coaches it was mike and mike so that was kind of kind of a nice little treat just to look at.
All right, so Panthers-Saints, Drew Brees' wash meter, not washed, had a good game. I kind of felt this one coming just because the Panthers don't really have a ferocious defense, and Drew Brees had time today.
But yeah, he looked good today. Well, yes, from a football standpoint, he looked good.
But actually, I'm concerned with him and Matt Ryan with their health. Why? They're both shrinking.
They're both getting smaller and emaciated. I don't know if they've been sick or what's going on.
It's whenever, like, what, five years ago? Whenever someone made the decision that fitness was no longer being men and lifting weights and now it was just having little rubber bands and stretching your hamstrings that's because that's what fitness is these days guys it's because drew breeze isn't allowed to play dodgeball and pe anymore no you know what it is it's it's everyone uh saying that soccer bodies are the hottest bodies yeah so now it's not there's no muscles are out ton, toned bodies are in. He's just shrinking in on himself.
He's getting paler. He's turning into, I don't know, he looks almost like a, he looks like the Six Flags guy a little bit.
You remember that annoying guy that used to dance around? Yes. He's just like, his head's getting bigger, but his skin is shrinking in on itself.
What are Pilates? Pilates is where you say that you go to meet chicks. What is it, though? A system of exercises using special apparatus designed to improve physical stress flexibility.
Bullshit. And enhance mental awareness.
Bullshit. You know what it is? Bullshit.
I think it's a class that you go to to lift the smallest amount of weight possible in very, very high reps. So you say, you know what? I'm not looking to get bulky.
I'm just looking to get toned. See, we need the pendulum to swing back because I think we've had this idea on the show that we should start a gym that's just manual labor and we just make someone like build stuff.
Yeah. The gym is you build us the gym.
Yeah. You build us the gym and then a house and then a wall and then a car and then a moat.
if you just have a castle if you just assemble like the squat racks and treadmills and shit for it's a workout yeah and then you get to work out for like a week after you've assembled a part of the gym that's like that's your payment instead of dues uh yeah so saints saints panthers um michael thomas according to our friend mike uh mikeio, said potentially maybe someone could be traded.
And then Sean Payton said insiders on the outside where they belong.
Roasted.
I think that there's something weird going on with Michael Thomas.
Ah, you think?
Yeah, because he is so good.
Can't guard Mike.
One of the best Twitter names out there.
Yes.
He's a big reason why the offense hasn't looked awesome like they have in the past. Also, Drew Brees, his arm's falling off, maybe.
But there's something going on where I think he's probably on the trading block. Yeah, and Sean Payton.
They just keep coming up with weirder excuses for him. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
He replied on Twitter. What is that from? His account was locked.
Is this Shakespearepeare or something yeah i think it's shakespeare whatever i mean if you say me thinks it's got to be yeah it's saying it's trying to it's trying to he who smelt it dealt it basically yeah so if you're like oh someone farted and it's like yo that dude that just said that shakespeare that dude stopped protesting way too much hamlet the lady doth protests too much me me thinks. I had it right.
Yeah, Shakespeare. Yeah, no, but I screwed up the sentence.
Oh, you're good. I like this.
Jake is actually fact-checking us. This is something Billy could do, but he doesn't.
If you had gotten it exactly right, I would say that's more of a red flag. Nerd alert.
Yeah. You'd say I do Pilates.
Yeah, Michael Thomas, I think he's going to be traded. Yeah.
He like sucker punch the guy in practice, right? Sean Payton, yeah. Sean Payton replying to that is a total red flag.
Sean Payton doesn't do Twitter. Yep.
He's basically trying to say no or not just so that he can get a better deal. And also, I think Florio is on the inside of the Saints.
Yeah. Florio's got his tentacles.
Sean Payton's his guy. They reach way down south.
Yes. He's a big Saints guy.
So Teddy Bridgewater was awesome. Joe Brady is like number one on the boy genius, next boy genius list.
Yeah, he's my wild card to get a job after this. He's a head coaching job.
Yes, absolutely going to happen. He is definitely going to be – there's going to be a feature about Joe Brady revolutionizing football just like every guy who's revolutionized football before him.
But he is awesome. I mean, that offense doesn't have a running game right now, and they don't have, like, incredible talent.
Teddy Bridgewater, his only real big mistake was taking that sack. He's good.
DJ Moore is really good, too. Yeah.
DJ Moore's an underrated dude. they don't have a running game speaker, if you're right.
But they don't have insane wide receivers. They have good guys.
Jameson Crowder's good. Yeah.
No, no, no. Sorry.
Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson.
The other jet guy. Yeah.
Robbie Anderson's good. Yeah, DJ Moore is good.
But they don't have – no one's going to confuse the Panthers' skill positions as being like a top five unit in the NFL. Right.
And it's hard to tell sometimes when you have a new head coach how much of it is just the fact that nobody has film on you so they can't figure out what the fuck you're doing and how much is like, oh, yeah, this guy actually is changing stuff up. Like, who knows? Maybe the second half of the season they don't change anything, and now every defense knows what they end up doing.
I wanted to flag Matt Rule. Matt Rule went to the smock today for the first time yes he did he debuted the uh the carolina blue smock i i feel like he went to the smock too soon yeah that's that's a move that you wait to do if you're like losing in a playoff game at halftime you come out for the second half in the smock well you don't do it in week seven the only reason the smock works for him right now is with the face shield he really is just everyone's shop teacher from seventh grade yeah like he really has that look yeah of a guy who's you know at some point maybe there was an athlete in there but he's really given up and right now he just wants to make sure none of the kids like cut their fingers off yeah he's kind of got the welder look going on too but i don't know it's just it's too early to that is that's a major like big time energy boost move you don't want to waste it in a game like this you want to hold that in your back although division you know this would have been a nice this would have been a nice win for the panthers now they fall back down to earth where the where we kind of expected them to be because after that win whatever it was a few weeks ago where they went three and2, everyone was like, ooh, watch out for the Panthers, ourselves included,
because Teddy Bridgewater is a covering machine.
It did lead us to respect Teddy.
I mean, he's a covering machine.
He covers spreads.
That's what he does.
So the Panthers, though, fall short.
Joey Sly, that kick, that was the best missed kick of all time.
I didn't see the kick.
It was a so – Teddy Bridgewater takes a sack, a pretty inexcusable sack. I don't know what, I mean, I'll have to wait until the All-22 comes out, guys.
But he takes a sack, it was like around it would have been about a 52-yarder. He takes a sack on third down.
And so now they're all the way back. Joey Sly kicks a 65-yarder.
When I say it was dead on, like in in the center it was dead on in the center and it missed by maybe 8 inches like fell short so if Teddy Bridgewater had taken a sack that was an inch you look at that it was that close 65 yards that close he nutted that he nutted it it's the. Yeah.
Again, Joey Sly. Great, awesome, cool guy name.
And he had, I think he had COVID all week, so he was practicing at one in the morning with no one around. I mean, that's a perfect position to get COVID because no one hangs out with him anyway.
Right. He's like, Joey, you probably were doing that.
Yeah. Alright, next up.
Bill's Jets. Hyperdrive.
Hyperdrive actually worked for a quarter and a half. Well, Adam Gase.
You did, Hank. You had Jets' money line, 10-0.
First cover of the year. First cover of the year? For the Jets.
Oh, wow. Okay.
So there you go. 10-0.
I didn't want to have the Jets beat me. I was like, I'll beat myself going down with that play.
And they scored 10 points. Adam Gase gave up play calling this time.
To Dow Loggins. So he'll probably take it back again next week.
I don't know what the impetus for him doing that was when all of his assistants said, no, you keep calling plays. He foisted on Dow Loggins.
Darnold looked good, like a little shot in the arm. I think that's just, I think maybe that's the key to the Jets for the rest of the year.
They should look at their schedule. If they're playing a tough team, they should put Flacco in.
Then when they play a team maybe a little bit less, they put Darnold in. It's like swinging with a weight on your batting donut.
Because when you go from Flacco to Darnold, everything looks just about 25% better and faster because it's not a corpse under Sender. And you also don't want to ruin Sam Donald's confidence entirely.
What's left of it after he's gotten through dealing with Adam Gates for like two years. So yeah, let him play against the shitty teams.
You didn't even, you're not even like protesting anymore. About Flacco? Yeah.
Flacco is... Usually when I say, when I bash him, you're like, hey now.
No, I've given up on it. It's over.
Flacco's a beautiful boy. The Jets, they can kill anybody.
The Jets sapped what little remaining life Flacco had running through his veins right now. But Hyperdrive looked good for 10-0.
Maybe he'll get on a team next year and I'll buy back in. He's a good guy in the locker room.
Yeah, he's a good guy to have around. He's got a big family.
Give him a job next year. But yeah, Hyperdrive worked.
He's one of those old quarterbacks. It's sad because you see Tom Brady playing until he's 43, and you see Josh McCown is I think 40, and he was a backup last year.
He's a backup right now. He's a backup right now.
He's an emergency guy. He's sitting in a hotel somewhere.
But Joe Flacco has so much athleticism, that he didn't have a lot to begin with, but he lost so much that he can't, like, taking a snap under center and doing a five-step drop fast enough to not get sacked is almost impossible. Yeah, I don't know what happened to him over the course of the last three years.
I think maybe he just kind of was always trending this direction, but just being out
in Denver, exacerbate it a little bit.
He had
the greatest run.
The life lesson of Joe
Flacco is just for one
stretch in your life, in your career,
in your personal life, get
hot and stay hot for
a little bit of time, and then
you can always look back and be like, that was me. Back to yeah that was me so get in good shape once he also has like that was me he hasn't found an offensive coordinator that's willing to use his strength which is just like protect him for three seconds let him throw the ball 40 yards downfield and let him get a pass interference against the defense yes that is the ultimate joe flacco.
And he hasn't been a square peg in a round hole at the last two places where he's expected to complete passes. And that's not his game.
So the Bills were sloppy, straight up sloppy, 11 penalties. They won with eight field goals.
I think we need to do something because I can't do the back and forth Josh Allen thing every single week.
I like Josh Allen.
I'm going to defend Josh Allen.
I'm just going to say here and now he's still young and he's still a work in progress.
And sometimes there will be weeks where he's not a finished product.
Listen, the first four weeks of the season, I'm not willing.
We ran up the score.
And he didn't play that bad today, but they had trouble in the red zone and so we get it back thrown i'm i'm saying truce if you if the other side can agree that he's a good quarterback and we can agree that he's not yet an mvp i think that's a fair middle ground i disagree i. I think he still has who he was right under the surface lurking.
The guy that we saw in the first four weeks,
the guy that we saw is still inside that body somewhere.
He's still got – I'm not taking a knock at him.
I'm saying it's going to be week to week sometimes.
There will be weeks where it's just –
He did do the thing today where he was getting tackled
and then tried to throw the ball backwards
as he was about to hit the ground and just fumbled it out.
Yeah, I love it too.
It's part of what makes him endearing.
And he beat the Jets.
Listen, he won.
He didn't throw any interceptions.
He won.
Yeah.
It was just more their offense looked bad in the red zone.
Like when you have eight field goals, something went wrong.
Yep.
Yeah, against the Jets.
But then again, maybe that was just low energy because the Jets bring low energy. They suck you down.
They're energy vampires. They're reverse Seahawks.
Yeah. Where when you play the Seahawks, crazy shit happens.
Your offense can score from anywhere on the field. When you play against the Jets, sometimes you're just like, I'm bored playing against you.
Yeah. They're energy vampires.
All right. I just actually looked.
Oh, God damn it.
The Jets do have a Monday Night Football game.
I guess so.
The Patriots, which now is like a terrible game.
I was hoping, saying the Jets are energy vampires,
like please don't give us one more primetime Jets game.
Okay.
All right, next up.
Cowboys, Washington football team. Yep.
So I got a stat for you to start it off. The Cowboys.
Well, no. I've got a stat.
We've got to start off with Mike McCarthy. I've got an advanced stat for you.
The Mike McCarthy. Yeah, when you get to four wins in your division, a lot of research that he's found says that you're more likely to win your division.
Yeah, so who was the reporter? Was it... Shit, I don't know.
Find it, Jake. She said, Mike McCarthy told me there's research that once a team gets to four division wins, it's likelier to win the division.
Wow. Research that we've uncovered.
Winning football games can lead to success in winning divisions and making the playoffs. In your division, if you beat those divisional opponents, it makes you more likely.
A lot of teams game plan to not win those divisional games and throw them out and say, whatever, we'll treat them normally. But when you treat them with more importance, you can get more wins, which then means that you can win your division sometimes more likely.
I wonder if Mike McCarthy then took that incredible knowledge that he got off the Pro Football Focus subscription that has definitely lapsed and said, oh, is my computer making it? No, that was Jake. I think that does.
Kim Jones of the NFL Network. Kim Jones.
Kim Jones. All right, so Kim Jones said that.
Kim Jones. I like that.
That was good. Nice, Hank.
That was good. Thank you.
Do it again.
Is that the first time?
Kim Jones.
Who?
Mike Jones.
Who?
I'm Mike Jones.
Kim Jones, not just who.
Stepping on Mike Jones.
Who?
God.
Aspire to be a rapper that just says their name all the time. And their phone number.
Jason Derulo.
You could just call up Mike Jones.
It was like in his songs.
You could just give him a call.
He'd pick up sometimes. Yeah.
Yeah. It's very, very smart marketing.
So, Mike McCarthy, do you think he then took that incredible analysis that he got that winning football games in the division can help win the division and then took it to the guys and was like listen this means all we gotta do is go
want to know this week and he just like mike mike mccarthy has overthought everything he's known
about football since getting fired by the packers and having aaron rogers ruin his life to the point
where he is now reading all this stuff and then like reverse engineering himself back to the most
basic neanderthal football guy i think he uncovered that stat and he actually thought it was like
Thank you. reverse engineering himself back to the most basic Neanderthal football guy.
I think he uncovered that stat, and he actually thought it was like he was a national treasure. He uncovered this ancient football riddle written in blood on Jerry Jones' will, and he's like, you guys will never believe what I just came up with right now, so we've got to go out, we've got to beat the Washington football team, and if we do, we're in a better a better position win the division and he thought that he was the smartest person in the room which he probably usually does think that yes always yeah always i'm actually now like this quote is making me a mike mccarthy fan and i never thought i would do that because here's what what i love about it is that mike mccarthy is so this moment that I've I've had this personally I think a lot of people probably have had that where you say to yourself I want to be smarter I want to read more I want to learn numbers I want to try to better myself he had all the intentions of doing that and then when he absorbs all the information and takes in all the articles and the numbers and everything, his dumb shit for brains can only spit out like the most baseline understanding of it, which is winning is good.
Yeah. Like that is the most, because every time I try to get smarter, all that comes out is like the absolute bare minimum of what I learned.
And I go touting it around and telling everyone. I'm like, hey, I read a book.
You know, you see me when I read a book. I'm on one.
Right. So Mike McCarthy reads Malcolm Gladwell.
Yes. And he spends like a week in a dark room with this book and he comes out and he's like, the Beatles were good because they practiced a lot.
Yeah. Like Joe Paterno didn't actually know.
Yeah. Yeah.
And here's why. He reads a book and then comes out of it with the most basic for dummies version.
Yes. Like he read the back of the book.
Yes. He probably read Pro Football Focus for 10,000 hours.
I like Mike McCarthy if he actually meant this as something that he's uncovered. If he was being sincere by saying it.
I honestly think he did. I think he is so dumb like us.
And again, I'm saying I am just as dumb as Mike McCarthy that this is the lesson he learned from looking at a bunch of fucking pie charts and percentages and cool color graphs that you see on Pro Football Focus. I have a Pro Football Focus subscription.
That shit is like Chinese to me. I just stare at it.
If he came out of this, or he had this interview with Kim Jones, and he was like, you know what? I have to put something out there in the news that will get back to Jerry. So Jerry thinks that I'm working hard.
So I'm just going to say some numbers. I like him less.
But if he actually believes like, holy shit, this is cool. cool i learned something new and then he gave that as like an honest answer yeah you're right i like him i like games in the division matter more yes because you want to win the division so mike mccarthy i think we just talked ourselves into being mike mccarthy guys i like how he's also saying like maybe i'm coaching these guys too much i think that might be the problem is i'm being too hands-on with them well Well, I'll tell you what.
There is a problem. I mean, that is true with Mike Nolan.
Mike Nolan, I don't know what. Mike Nolan has done an incredible job of just making all of his defensive players terrible.
And so much so that the Washington football team going into this game, they were the only team in the NFL to not have a rusher with 60 yards or more in a game. They got that in the first quarter.
Yeah, yeah. So that's how bad the defense is for the Dallas Cowboys.
But don't they have good linebackers? Like, last I checked, they had Leighton Vander Esch. I think Mike Nolan.
They had Jalen Smith, right? Yeah, and he's been lost. He stinks.
He stinks this year because Mike Nolan, it's like, remember whenever Norv Turner would go with his 10,000-page playbook, and the offense would look different? You'd be like, what's going on here? Like, oh, well, yeah, it's a totally different system. I think Mike Nolan has just confused the fuck out of every single person on the Dallas defense.
Mike Nolan has one move to save his job. As a defense coordinator, you don't have a lot of moves because you don't really ever give up or take play calling um you're usually like the one guy that gets blamed even if your head coach is a defensive guy like defensive coordinators it's a hard job to keep in the nfl when you stink the best thing that you can do is just become known as like a mad scientist blitz guy yeah like just dial something up just bring the heat just say like go go in the press next week and be like you know what i'm gonna need to dial some new stuff up yeah i'm gonna get exotic with my blitzes our guys are gonna pin our ears back yes look at fucking greg williams he is greg williams is an absolute shithead of a person but he's a snitch yeah he's a rat he's an asshole he's a jerk he throws everyone under the bus but he brings the heat yeah you blitz and it doesn't matter if they.
If they catch you on a zero blitz and they drop like a 40-yard touchdown on you,
you're like, yeah, you know what?
We'll live and die with that guy because he's an aggressive play caller on defense. Because also when you blitz, when you're Dr.
Heat and you blitz and it works,
nothing looks better.
You look like the 85 Bears.
And then you can also blame your players after the game. If you just blitz the shit out of them and they score 50 on you, you'd be like, our guy's got to get home.
When we bring pressure, we've got to get to the quarterback. And you could also just be like, well, because usually you'll lose to Tom Brady or Drew Brees who just eat up blitzes and be like, well, I mean, no one's beating those guys.
But you have to try something. I'd rather die blitzing than die just playing in zone.
You can always say that. Listen, if we drop back into nickel coverage or dime coverage, they're just going to pick us apart back there.
So you've got to get pressure on them and knock them down, and that's really the best way that you can. The only way that you can beat the Washington football team and Kyle Allen is if you get up in his face and knock him around a little bit.
Because if you don't, he's just going to be a surgeon out there dissecting you for up to and including 25 points. It's a great point.
You've got to blitz. Mike Nolan, you've got to blitz.
I mean, you also have to tackle, which you just haven't taught. Everyone forgot how to tackle.
This game was 2-0 for a second, which was awesome. And then it was 15-3 for a while.
It was awesome. And then also we should mention that John Bostic, Steeler, former Pittsburgh Steeler, drafted by the Bears, whatever, which I watched that clip of him hitting Teddy Bridgewater, Florida, Louisville, in that bowl game.
I've never sold myself on a draft pick faster than that. It's just a cool name, Bostic that hit I'm pretty sure Florida lost that game but I remember on draft night being like oh my god this guy is going to bring the fucking wood but yeah that was a dirty scumbag hit on Andy Dalton and Andy Dalton we make our jokes and we have our fun but no one wants to see Andy Dalton get hurt.
No, it's sad. He's a nice guy.
It was a dirty hit. I'm not going to go Tom Wilson on this.
It was a dirty hit. Dirty ass.
Very dirty hit. He'll probably be suspended for a little bit.
I actually thought the most interesting take was Danny Woodhead's podcast partner, Matt Slauson, said all the Dallas offensive linemen should be in prison for not
fighting Jeff Bostic after that hit.
If you saw the hit
the linemen just kind of stood around like
damn they got Andy. That sucks.
Yeah man I wish it was me.
I didn't have to play anymore. Hey coach can I play
quarterback? Dude Mike McCarthy said that after the game too.
He was very upset about that.
But you're the coach.
Like you're the coach of the team. Pull up the John Bostic Teddy Bridgewater hit.
I want to see that just to feel it. Now we got Ben DiNucci.
Ben DiNucci. Keeping it Gucci.
JMU grad. They really should trade for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
They really should. I was thinking about this.
Could Fitzpatrick conceivably do a series of one week contracts with different teams? Yes, why not? I want them to be floating around.
I don't want them to be hot committed to the Dallas Cowboys.
This hit made me, I was like, oh my God,
John Bostic is going to be the monsters of the midway or back.
He sucks, by the way.
He's not a good player.
So he just does big hits and sometimes very illegal hits.
We also saw Ezekiel Elliott is having, like, quietly the worst year.
Not only is he fumbling, but that clip of him trying to pick up a blitz by UNC legend Cole Holcomb. Yeah, Cole looked like a fucking Hall of Fame linebacker.
Yeah, he looked like someone talked shit to him on text. And he was like, I'm going to run over this guy.
Ran over him. It was one of the hits where you hit the guy who's trying to block you into the quarterback, and that's how you get the sack.
It feels awesome when that happens. Ezekiel Elliott, time feels about right for him to fake an injury.
Well, he got paid, so he's just kind of hanging. He should say, listen, I got a rib.
I'm going to be hanging out for a couple weeks. He's kind of already doing that.
Yeah, but why do it on the field? Do it at home. It's incredible.
And guess what? I'm not even really talking shit about Ezekiel Eli because if I were him and I got paid, how much money did he get guaranteed? A shitload? I'd probably be, you know what? I don't really want to go out there and absorb hits and concussions and break bones anymore. I'd rather just chill at home and play an Xbox.
Six years, 90 million. Yeah.
Six years, 90 million. No, the Cowboys.
Rather just sit on a beanbag that's the size of my entire room and eat barbecue all day. The Cowboys, with coronavirus, the NFL should have given an option for teams to opt out collectively at any point during the season.
Cowboys and the Jets absolutely would do it at this point. Jerry would not let them.
I don't know, man. This is getting bad.
Jerry would start an entirely new team and bring them in cowboys too here's the good news for everyone the cowboys are horrendous we have uh three more times that they're on national television and you know what it's not that they're energy vampires like the jets because watching the cowboys stink this badly is so much fun to do yes it is a lot of fun to see how bad they suck because usually the Cowboys suck, but they have at least a hint of an expectation that they've got enough talent to win a game. Yes.
Or like they could maybe go 10-6, 11-5 if all goes well. Now you get to see the Cowboys as one of like legitimately the three worst teams in the NFL and just know that Skip Bayless is watching.
You know, he's – when you look at the window at the same moon, and you just know that Skip Bayless is watching. When you look out the window at the same moon, you're like, Skip Bayless is looking at that moon right now, thinking he's pissed off by the Cowboys.
And Stephen A. Smith is looking at that moon, just flipping Skip Bayless off.
Yes, yes, it's a great point. So more Cowboys.
The first time in NFL history that we're at week seven with no teams in the division with at least three wins.
Who cares?
Incredible.
Who cares?
Washington football team in the hunt. Cowboys are still in it.
Half a game out.
They killed their Trevor Lawrence chances.
Maybe.
Dude, do you think the Jets are winning two games?
It's a possibility.
No way.
Flacco.
Flacco.
No way.
Now I'm thinking about Flacco again.
And Washington football team is going to play the Cowboys again. And they have the Giants twice, right? Oh, no, they have one more time against the Giants.
Now I am talking myself into the Washington football team winning the division. This is the beauty of the NFC East.
One week you're Trevor Lawrence, the next week you're winning the NFC East. How awesome would it be, though? I think we looked it up last week.
I was wondering if a team could conceivably win their division if they went, I think, 3-13. 3-13 could win.
No, you're at 4-12. 4-12 could win the division.
If you go 4-12, and every other team finishes at 4-12 also, but you win the series of tiebreakers or coin flips, you win the division, and then you also get the number one overall pick in the draft because you win the series of coin flips that determines a tie for every team. No, that can't happen.
To get there, but if you make the playoffs, then you're automatically put out of that running. Like 18th.
Yeah. You actually ruin yourself for a draft pick.
Yes, you really, really do. 4-12, you would be the fifth draft pick, and then you bump all the way down to 18th.
But you could tie for first place in the NFC East and also get the number one overall pick in the draft. That's a possibility.
By the way, you'd actually go, I think, I don't know if it's when you lose. I think you'd actually be lower than 18th because you'd win the division.
And then I think it's based on when you lose, but I think it's— Yeah, I'm trying to do the math with all the different wild cards. I think you'd be lower than the wild cards.
You just technically won the division. That would stink.
But you know what? At this point, I want... If I were to go one way or the other, we're not going to get the number one overall pick.
So let's just win the whole fucking division, be legends, and then who knows? Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle one week in the playoffs. You win a wild card game.
Yeah, why not? It could happen. See it.
Yeah. Believe it, achieve it.
Packers, Texans. Texans suck.
And Devontae Adams and Aaron Rodgers aren't fair together. That was all I wrote down.
Yeah, Devontae Adams is good. J.J.
Watt is mad as hell. He also said he was mad as hell.
And then he just said about losing, shit sucks.
Shit really sucks, bro. Watch your mouth, JJ.
Bill O'Brien's ghost is still coaching this team
because the Texans did kick a field goal
to make it a three-score game from a three-score game.
So I think the score was 28-7.
Yes, 28-7.
And they kicked a field goal to make it 28-10.
Which sounds a lot better.
You have to admit, 28-10 sounds way better than 28-7. But if you're Romeo Cornell, you can't have it both ways.
You went for two against the Titans last week to go up nine in the gunslinger interim head coach, fuck it, let's just do it. Now you're doing the Pat Shermer box score next day.
I want to lose by less so that they give me the job, which they won't do. You're assigning way too much strategy right now to Romeo Cornell.
Romeo Cornell, he coaches off his gut. Well, that's why I think it may be Bill O'Brien actually still has like, he still has an office in the stadium and he's just talking to everyone.
Well, he is still the janitor. He's the grounds crew guy.
He did every single chef. Yeah.
But Romeo thing. He did every single thing.
Yeah. But Romeo Cornell, he looks at 28 to 7.
He's like, man, it'd look a lot cooler if we had double-digit points. Yeah.
And then sometimes every now and again, he just goes for two. I don't think that there's a rhyme or a reason to when he does or doesn't do it.
Nope. I do know that when coaches fall into these weird score games, like the football team Cowboys game where it was 15 to 3, coaches just start going for two every time they score a touchdown because they're like I'm not used to seeing these numbers yeah when we score touchdowns I'm gonna assume I need to go for two I want to get back on track yeah I want to get to it got to get back on track get me to a zero or a seven and then I'll stop going for two yes so the Packers looked good afterwards they're like we you know we owed it to ourselves after after getting our kicked by the Bucs.
We're mad, all this stuff. You play the Texans.
You know what sucks? You play the Texans. You look good.
The Packers are a good team that will beat up on bad teams. They did this also without Aaron Jones.
So the Packers are very good. But the Texans are really bad.
And the Texans' run defense is really bad. I think the Packers are in a good position to receive bad.
No, I mean, I don't know why. They beat the Texans, dude.
Packers are really good. No, they beat the Texans.
Why would you say like one week they beat the Texans? The Texans are the best worst team. No, I don't think so anymore.
After this loss, maybe not. Yeah, I don't think so.
I'll have to crunch the stats. The best worst team to me is the titans okay that's fair i was gonna say maybe the patriots yo we're gonna get there all right let's go let's keep chugging along because hank we gotta get hank hank's gonna we gotta get there all right uh the packers are good they're very good okay they're very good whatever i don't care i'm obviously very biased they're very good whatever Okay.
They're very good. Whatever.
I don't care. I'm obviously very biased.
They're very good. Whatever.
But it was the Texans. Who cares? They're very good.
Chargers, Jaguars, Justin Herbert gets his first win. Gardner Minshew, six straight losses.
This game was fucking crazy. This game, every time you looked up, there was a different touchdown, a weird touchdown.
Scorigami, right,ami right jake score gami yep 39 score gami the score has never happened in the nfl history but yeah there was like block kicks and and deep bombs but justin herbert it's good that he finally won a game um because he like basically did the chargers thing where he was just losing in terrible fashion against really good teams yeah so it's nice to have the Jaguars come in and get that win. He's got that little bit of youthful naiveness where he likes to tuck the ball and run with it.
He's really good at it. But he's one of these guys that scrambles after looking off one guy.
And then he'll just get his ass kicked as he's jumping, diving forward. And he still hasn't gotten hit hard enough, I think, over the course of the last six weeks to realize, oh, that's the electric fence.
I might want to stop touching that. But he's fun to watch.
He's a big ball of energy, which I like. Yeah, and he's got a rocket arm.
And on the other side, I'm getting really sad about the Jaguars because I saw this article that they're thinking about going to Mike Glennon. Like, why would you do that? Why would you do that to us? You're going to lose.
You're trying to tank. Gardner Minshew is at least fun to watch.
He's cool to look at on the sidelines. Did you see his bandana? He was rocking like the tie-dye bandana.
That looks sweet as hell. Right, exactly.
He should be allowed to rock like a tie-dye jersey, like a uniform, like the red one where you're not allowed to hit the quarterback. Yes.
The tie-dye one where you're only allowed to hang out and smoke a shitload of weed with the quarterback after the game yes i like gardner minchew i don't think that he's the problem i think that there are a lot of other problems no they have no talent on the roster doug marone was wearing his mask upside down for the entire game and nobody told him that's fine that's it's fine i don't have a problem with it but i have a problem with the fact that nobody told Doug Marone. They respect him too much.
Remember, he could beat the shit out of him because he's from the Bronx. He went to Diana's dad's high school.
He will beat the fuck out of you. He beat up Jalen Ramsey.
He would in a heartbeat. Yeah, I just felt bad for him because it was very obviously on upside down and nobody was even talking.
Nobody was like a person. He is a scary guy.
I was laughing about that, but I actually kind of agreed with Diana's tweet a little bit. He could beat the shit.
I think he could beat up every coach in the NFL not named Mike Vrabel. Yeah.
I think Vrabel would whoop him. Are we forgetting anyone specific? Yeah, Vrabel would whoop him.
Vrabel would kick the fuck out of everyone. He would eat Cliff Kingsbury I'd like to see I'd like to see Brian Morris might be a dark horse now Brian Flores is a pretty tough dude yeah yeah okay okay um that was that game that was that good for the Jaguars there's literally nothing else to talk about yeah good for the Jaguars you scored a lot of points good for the Chargers bad for the Jaguars Jaguars scored a lot of points anytime the Jaguars.
You scored a lot of points. Sorry, good for the Chargers, bad for the Jaguars.
Jaguars scored a lot of points.
Anytime the Jaguars score
more than 20 points, I kind of chalk
that up as a moral victory
for them. They've also given up
Jaguars. If the Jaguars
can score a little bit, they're a great over
team because their defense is so bad.
They give up 30 points to everyone.
Everyone. And there's the public
perception because their defense was so good
that like, oh, they still got that
defense. Before we get to our
Thank you. They give up 30 points to everyone.
Yeah, everyone. And there's the public perception because their defense was so good that like, oh, they still got that defense.
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All right, back to part of my take. Okay, Chiefs Broncos.
Patrick Mahomes threw for 200 yards, and the Chiefs won 43-16. Now, they had a kick return, pick six, but the Chiefs are fucking scary, man, because they can win games like so many different ways now.
And when their defense plays well and they can can run the ball, it's like, what the fuck? And then now Le'Veon Bell's happy. Yeah.
He jumped out of the, out of the plane in New York with like the DB Cooper briefcase of cash. And now he's just in an offense that he likes and enjoys and is fun to be around.
It's, it's not fair for the entire rest of the NFL that now Le'Veon Bell is a, uh, is a chief because I was actually, I was liking the chiefs more this year than I was liking last year because I like Hilaire. I like Clyde.
I just like, you know, Clyde seems like a cool guy. He has a rookie coming in and playing that well.
He's fun to root for. And now they're just like, okay, they've got everybody.
The Chiefs have everybody on the team. Yes, they have the Avengers.
Are you ready to talk about your boy? Because you hold me to standards when it comes to guys. I might have been.
Drew Locke is your guy. I might have been oversold on Drew Locke by others.
My question to you is, if we never get that video of Drew Locke dancing on the sideline, does anyone think that Drew Locke is a franchise quarterback? Oh, my reason for thinking he was a franchise quarterback was way dumber than that it started back at like the the senior bowl when um he gave the double finger guns to a reporter that asked him a question oh okay because he also did he did the dance mizzou played texas no no then he got it thrown in his face no he was just doing the double finger guns uh because he was talking about how he doesn't i think he said he doesn't bench that much, but he squats a lot. Yeah.
And somebody said, like, legs feed the wolf or something. I mean, give him the finger guns.
So where are you at with him? Because he's now nine starts. It's complicated.
It's complicated. Eight touchdowns, seven interceptions.
He looked bad. He did.
He looked very bad and lost. Yep.
Like, you know when a young quarterback just doesn't see it? And so they're scrambling and they're throwing it to places they shouldn't be throwing it and it's just like you there's some young quarterbacks where they'll once in a while you know in a game there'll be one or two throws you're like whoa that was a young quarterback throw yep then there's young quarterbacks where it's like they're lost he's in the lost category right now i'm not gonna throw him out i'm not saying he done. I'm just saying you might have to reassess.
I'm in the process of reassessing right now. And right now, the biggest conclusion I can come to is that he looks very Pat Shurmur-like.
Pat Shurmur has his hooks into him big time. Like, you want to talk about an energy vampire.
Pat Shurmur, just the name, Pat Shurmur. He's like, okay, I'm falling asleep halfway.
But his offense is they're just boring they're boring as fuck they're boring in uh in uh new york when he was coaching there like he is he's not a good person to be installing like a fancy high speed offense and the fact that he's teamed up with vic fangio who doesn't want to do anything innovative offensively he's like the height of uh of developing an exotic offense for vic Vic Fangio is like let's sign a free agent running back. So what I'm getting from this is you're at the state of I'm not ready to admit that maybe I was wrong.
No. I'm blaming everyone else.
I'm blaming everyone else. I am assessing though.
I'm in the process of assessing which I usually don't do. Yes I know.
I usually ignore and I'm just like, he'll turn a corner. Yeah, or just keep going with it, and then it becomes its own bit, and you're like, I'm good.
Then I'm just joking about Drew Locke. No, but Drew Locke, I'm assessing Drew Locke.
The thing about me and Drew Locke is I'm not really tied into the guy whatsoever. Well, you spoke very highly of him.
You said he was your guy. I thought my biggest key indicator for Drew Locke was he was making these.
You gave him the moxie word. Yeah, moxie.
You gave him a lot of praise. He was making these throws into tight windows and finding himself in the right place at the right time all the time.
And so at some point I'm like, there's something about him. But not really because he only has eight touchdowns and seven interceptions.
This, this is last year that I was saying that about him. No, those stats are for both years.
Okay, and well, then there was also Von Miller being like, this guy's making the craziest throws I've ever seen in my life at practice. Yeah.
And the finger guns. And the finger guns.
The double finger guns. I can understand, yeah.
And the dance, yeah. Yeah, so you're right.
We're reassessing. We're gathering information at this time.
I think he had like three of those eight touchdowns in one game, too. Right now, the main culprit is Pat Shermer.
The second main culprit is the altitude. Weather.
And the third is Vic Fangio, and he's not used to the snow. Also, he's in a bad division, Big Cat.
He's in a very competitive division. Very tough.
He has to play the Chiefs twice. Vic Fangio is such a good fucking defensive coach, and he's not a good head coach.
But, man, that guy, I'd give anything to have him back. Everyone should want him as a defensive coordinator.
He'll get another job. Because the Broncos got blown out today, but they weren't that good on offense.
Like, they weren't. Patrick Mahomes had 200 yards passing, and they had 100 yards running it wasn't like the chiefs lit them up they just had some special teams and defensive plays that made it a huge fucking win right no he's he's a great defensive coach but he's just i don't know why john elway thought that he was going to be like the guy to lead them i think he he just kind of thought it was the zig while everybody else zags.
Everyone.
Well,
there are no more Sean McVay assistant coaches to interview.
Yes.
I'm going to get this old guy from Chicago.
Yes.
Um,
all right.
Snow football theoretically happened today,
but it was not.
Yeah.
We all agree.
We need to accelerate falling snow.
Yeah. We need to do whatever we can to climate change to get snow football to
actually happen.
Yes.
All right.
Wrapping up. we have two games left.
Weirdly, they're kind of linked.
Hank is sitting up in his seat.
In what way?
So we'll start with the 49ers, Patriots, 49ers, 33, Patriots, 6, 31 teams passed on Cam Newton.
We saw a lot of those tweets in September.
Seems like we don't see as many now.
Hank, Cam Newton went 9 for 15, 98 yards, three interceptions. He's recovering from a virus that's killed hundreds of thousands of American lives.
And he is playing the game two weeks after having it. Okay.
And what would you say about the fact that he really hasn't looked all that great passing the ball except for the Seahawks? I mean, PFT brought this point up to me earlier, and it really turned a light on in my brain. One of the side effects of Corona is having a foggy brain.
Oh, he's got long Rona. He's got the long Rona in situations where he might just be...
Was he asymptomatic? No, he's got the long Coco Big Cat. But he was asymptomatic when he had it, right? Well, you can be asymptomatic and then weeks later you can still symptomize.
Sometimes that's the biggest symptom is not having one. Okay, got it.
No, he's looked weird. He's been throwing weird when he throws.
It just doesn't look. It's bad.
It looks strange. It's very strange.
The mechanics like... He's going like overhand.
Like, have you ever seen somebody throw an axe or a hatchet? He's great at throwing it really hard at people's feet. Yeah.
I think we should sign Bortles. That's where I'm at.
I like that. To defend Cam, not directly defending Cam, but indirectly defending Cam.
COVID. The Patriots defense was terrible.
That should get criticism as well. Cam Newton wasn't good, but neither was the Patriots defense.
It shouldn't be all about Cam, but it's a lot more fun to make it all about Cam. He doesn't have, like, obviously he doesn't have weapons.
Well, it's going to be about Cam anyway because, one, he's a former MVP, went to a Super Bowl, high-profile guy. Two, he's on a one-year contract, so, like, the future and where he fits in is always going to be a conversation.
It's funny that you talk about the balls that go straight into his teammates' shins. He's a shin thrower.
It's weird. He releases it above his head, and then it seems like the ball has more gravity coming out of Cam Newton's hands where it goes down at an alarming rate.
You know what it is? It's almost like it would be like a trick, you know, like the trick golf balls or a trick football where one side of it is weighted. That's what it looks like.
Yeah, you're right. When he releases it, the front, the nose is already pointing down.
I think they have those footballs in practice. Those are the ones that Tom Brady left over.
He uses to like work on his motion and then he just accidentally uses them in the game. Yeah, it does look weird.
He also doesn't have that many weapons on offense. I'll give him that.
That's true. What is the prognosis, Hank? What does prognosis mean? What's the diagnosis, Hank? What do you think the problem and what is the solution here? We are ass.
Whoa. Our team looks like ass.
Are you talking cheeks? The solution. Are you talking cheeks? Yeah, you guys butt hole? You talking cheeks? Cheeks, yeah, just ass.
Mad cheeks. Ass, Big Sean, ass, ass, ass, ass, ass.
I did not expect this out of you. Okay.
I mean, I'll be honest with you. Ass is a generous description of what you saw today.
And last week. Yeah, and last week.
Yeah. Last week was, yeah.
And the COVID game against the Chiefs, which we said it was just because of COVID. Once Cam plays, it would have beat them.
Now, not so sure. I think this is more straight booty than it is ass.
Here's where, like, I bet on the Patriots today because I just like Belichick. Huge mistake.
You know, Belichick. He's a system coach.
But I think that this is. Right where we want him.
No, this is actually, like, the first time you got to be, like, take a step back and be like, oh, okay, so we can't just bet Belichick. You know what I mean? Like, the players do matter.
You can't just bet Belichick will out-coach someone when Cam Newton's throwing balls into people's shins. We need to win two out of the next four games.
And you have the Bills, the Jets, the Ravens, and the Texans. Yep.
You can do that. Yeah.
You can win two out of those four. And three out of four, then we're back in the playoffs, and I'm feeling great.
That's where I'm at. Okay.
All right. So there, you gave yourself some homework and ready to go.
People always say the whole Belichick gets rid of a player one season too early rather than one season too late. I don't think that he actually does it that often, but this is what it looks like when he actually does do that, like with Tom Brady.
This was the one season too early. You would not like to have Tom Brady back? I would, but it's one of those things where there's just so much more that goes into that.
It's not as simple as like, oh, if we let's sign Tom Brady. There's just so much history.
Clearly, the Antonio Brown thing, that was an issue. Tom Brady wanted Antonio Brown in the Patriots.
Kraft and Belichick stood the ground. We're like, fuck that.
We're cutting him. Now Antonio Brown's on the Buccaneers.
It clearly goes more into it than just straight up the Patriots wanting Tom Brady as their quarterback. There was much more of a power struggle.
It made sense. I don't know.
I don't feel like that. I'm not sitting here like, I wish we had Brady.
Obviously, I wish we had Brady, but I understand that it just wasn't realistic given the circumstances of the team. I'd like to give respect to the San Francisco 49ers offensive line.
I feel like they get – their tight ends, obviously, like Kittle, the fullback, Juschick, Jimmy G gets talked about a lot. The receivers are good.
Their offensive line is the shit. Their offensive line is really good.
And when you watch the Niners play, it seems like every position on offense kind of like has, they kind of look like offensive linemen a little bit. The way that they block and like run.
They all kind of have like great technique in everything they do. They all like get low.
I don't know. People always talk about hips.
I don't really know what a hip is, but I feel like all their hips are sunk to proper leverage on offense, and they're just all blocking everybody. Kyle Shanahan is just an incredible coach.
And for NFL fans that are maybe a little younger who don't remember Mike Shanahan's heydayday in Denver this is essentially what it was in that he had Jeff Wilson Jr. who ended up getting hurt which looked pretty bad undrafted free agent from North Texas he had 17 carries for 112 yards three TDs he gets hurt uh Jamichael I don't even know his hastyasty, undrafted free agent from Baylor, comes in nine rushes for 57 yards.
That was Mike Shanahan. Like, you just put a guy in.
Doesn't matter. He'll just be a runner.
He'll fucking. How many running backs have they gone through? Like, I feel like they get an injured running back every week.
And, like, so they just plug in all the injuries and everything that's going on. Think about how bad the 49ers looked against the Dolphins three weeks ago.
And to win on Sunday night against the Rams, to go into Foxborough and win this, they need a lot of credit. They feel like they're back on track.
But, yeah, the Patriots, I don't know. You just can't bet Belichick for Belichick anymore.
It's a weird feeling to be like, oh, so Belichick isn't going to just – he's going to lose three in a row? Okay. Yeah.
I guess it does matter who's playing. And their defense is bad.
The defense stunk today, too. Very bad.
Very bad. I mean, I'm looking at the Patriots schedule right now.
They gave up a whole many yards. On one hand, it's like, Hank, welcome to the club.
Yeah. You've had a lot.
How does it feel? You've had a ton of time on top. How does it feel to be 2-4 at the end of October? This is what everybody else.
It sucks, right? Don't feel good. Well, it's not a normal season.
It doesn't feel good. It's not a normal season.
It doesn't feel good. It's not a normal season.
Your star players don't get taken out. Trevor Goldberg's center was hilarious.
Just give it, big cat. In a couple weeks we know what Wisconsin loses a couple of games.
Like you'll understand my pain. It's sad that you're lashing out like that.
I'm not. I'm, I'm trying to help you understand where I'm at.
And you're looking at me like I took a shot at you. It's a fact.
You're a star quarterback also out with COVID. It sucks.
And then when he comes back with foggy brain and he's not throwing five touchdowns in a game, you're going to be like, wait. What happened? Yeah.
All right. Okay, so next game, Bucs 45, Raiders 20.
Tom Brady lit it up. I like watching the Buccaneers.
I enjoy watching the Buccaneers. And Gronk.
Not only Gronk is back. Gronk is back.
I feel like Gronk's put on two and a half pounds every single week consistently. He looks so good.
He's looking good. Yeah, looking like old Gronk right now.
This is, I mean, everyone has spoken a million times over of how Tom Brady is like the greatest quarterback. And he is incredible.
But the little things, that end of the first half was why Tom Brady's Tom Brady and everyone else is not. You know what I mean? Because they get the ball with like two and a half minutes left.
He ran off the perfect amount of time to get into field goal range, take the one shot that ended up being a touchdown. It was an incredible pass and catch.
But if he doesn't get it, he still gets another shot and then he gets a field goal yeah and it's like that's why tom brady is tom brady and and other teams will you'll see them just absolutely shit down their their pants in end of half end of court end of game situations he's got it so many he was so calm and cool and it was like oh okay this is exactly the amount of time we need to take off the clock so they don't get the ball back, and we can have a chance to score here. Best case, seven.
Worst case, three. And then you do the double score.
They might not have gotten the ball to start the half. But that's the difference.
I am a little bit concerned about the Bucs after this because of Antonio Brown. Yeah.
Because of him going. I actually think Antonio Brown, I think he's insane.
I think he's like a total nut job. What gives you that idea? And obviously, like, you're right.
There is something going on with Tom Brady and Antonio Brown. I think Tom Brady wants to go into business with Antonio Brown.
I think he's going to be, like, involved in TB12 moving forward. Like, Antonio Brown, Brady was like, hey, I saw you getting your dick sucked by Tiana Trump in your gym.
Yeah. That seems like a cool feature we could add to the TB12 method.
But he seems like he's involved in his weird Tom Brady universe with Antonio Brown, where he's getting, what's his name, Tony Robbins, to go give him pep talks and convince him and brainwash him. Antonio, he got? Yeah.
Wow. Tony Robbins is talking to Antonio Brown, being like, yeah, here's what you need to do to unlock.
It's like shallow how, except all of a sudden I'm going to shake your hand. You're going to want to pay all the people that work for you.
Yes. There's some weird shit going on with Tom Brady and Antonio Brown.
And I don't think Bruce Arians doesn't like Antonio Brown. He said pretty clearly back in March that he does not want him on his team.
He's like that guy's diva. He said some pretty like Bruce Arians after three cocktails type stuff about him.
Right. And now all of a sudden Tom Brady wants him so he's going to let him in.
Bruce Arians didn't like him when he was in Pittsburgh. Yes.
He's not going to like him now. No, he's definitely not.
I think that the Bucs might, things might get blown up real fast. I don't know though.
Tom Brady has that power of like, yo, if you want to buy in, we could win a ring. Just if everybody agrees for the season to become part of the cult.
Right. Like Bruce Arians.
Right. No, I really do think that he has that ability.
Yeah. Bruce Arians, I don't know if you saw the cult, but he said it had nothing to do with Tom Brady.
Him and the gym had been working on it for a while. There's no chance that's true.
I'm just excited to hold our good friend Stephen Shea, his feet to the fire, making him answer for all of Antonio Brown's actions. Scumbag.
Yeah. Say something nice about the Raiders.
They actually, it was a four-point game, and they did lose the right side of their offensive line to injury and ejection during the game, and it kind of changed from that point on. So I don't know.
The Raiders are just, I don't know what to make of them. Here's something nice about the Raiders.
I'm stealing this from the announcer in the game, but Derek Carr has good balance when he runs. Yeah.
So oftentimes when Derek Carr runs, he doesn't fall over, which is not something that you can say about every quarterback. And he also really takes his time before he runs.
I feel like he waits for as many options to happen before he's like, I'm going to run. You know what? He goes through his progressions.
He's really good at taking his time, making sure that he doesn't have a receiver open, and then if he doesn't get sacked, then he'll start running in perfect balance. It's true.
Also, Alec Ingold, their fullback, he's stopped leap leaping over people and now he's just running through people like he knows that he should be doing yep yep also true so good job raiders losing by a million but whatever that game was a little bit closer than like it was a 25 point game but it was a four point game going into the fourth right so it kind of fell apart really quick yeah but the problem. The Bucs are officially a problem.
They're very, very good. Dude, did you have, like, is there such a thing as a baby moon? I've heard about this where, like, people do a vacation before, like, our last time together before we have a kid.
Baby moon, people do that. This is the eight moon.
Can I go on? Yes. Yeah, you want one? I'll take yours.
Can I take big cats? You have to get somebody pregnant. Yeah.
I have a dog. No, Billy.
I actually had a really high idea of doing, like, a sketch where it's a dude who is, like, a terrible GM of his own life, and so he keeps trading future picks for current, like, situations where so he'll, like, hit up his fiance being like, I don't want to have a really big boys weekend. I'm going to go watch the games week eight of the NFL.
Let's just pretend it's my bachelor party. So he just trades away his bachelor party.
Yeah. And then he just keeps going down the line.
For just the most quick hit stuff. Yeah.
Just pretend it's the day I get a raise when I'm 45. I really want to watch week 12 with my guys.
At some point. And then he gets to like, he's like 27 years old, and he has no draft capital left.
He's like, I'm fucked. The last thing you can do is like, okay, I'll trade you my entire funeral.
No one comes to my funeral. I don't even have one.
Just like light my body on fire. Yeah, or like, let's pretend this weekend was our 70th wedding anniversary.
Yeah. He's just trading everything.
He's Sean McVay. He's like, I'm going to trade it all for win now.
Yeah. Which win now is literally just, I want to go eat wings with the dudes and watch college football.
It's Taco Tuesday where you get beer towers for $9.99. Yeah.
So instead of having a funeral, can I just go down there and get hammered till 1 a.m.? That's actually a pretty good idea. All right.
Yeah, it's like a sketch, but also everyone's life. But yeah.
So should we talk baseball real quick? Real quick. Clayton Kershaw, MVP.
World Series MVP. Why not? He's 2-0.
It would have been so awesome if they had stolen home on him tonight, though. Oh, my God.
And that game four was incredible. Like, one of the best World Series games that no one watched.
I watched it. No, I know.
I'm just saying, like, it doesn't feel like a real World Series. On a macro level? But, yeah, it was awesome.
Like, a million lead changes. There's something about whether it's a shot in basketball or a throw.
The alligator arm's coming out at the worst possible time. Because that throw, I think, who's it? Turner.
Turner made the throw. And he just alligator armed it.
Well, Turner cut off. Yeah, and then he alligator armed the throw to home.
Where he started the throw and then he thought twice about making the throw. And I just, there's something about the alligator arms.
I think there were four errors on that last play, weren't there? It was incredible. And then Kenley Jansen, like, dude, Little League, he was standing in the worst possible spot.
If he's backing them up, they probably go to extra innings. Yeah, he was standing in front of home plate, right? He was watching the play happen.
You got to know where you're going to be before the play happens. He was the kid in Little League who you have to put in right field because he's going to sit down and pick the grass in the middle of the play.
That was an awesome into the game. It reminded me a lot of Luis Gonzalez.
Remember back in 2001? Yeah. Great ending.
Love baseball. All right, yeah.
2-0, Clayton Kershaw. I think he's going to be.
Here's what I'm hoping they do. I'm hoping that.
Well, no, he's not going to pitch on Tuesday's game six. Maybe bullpen Wednesday game seven.
Yeah. Yeah, if it goes seven.
But he was. Yeah, he's 2-0.
Why not? I feel like they'll give it to him, right? Why not? Fuck it. Mookie earlier in the series.
Yeah, shit. All right.
Well, that's our baseball talk. It's been a great series.
I would highly recommend people watch it. Joe Buck's doing a wonderful job.
Joe Buck's doing a great job. They closed the roof on him tonight so he couldn't complain about a flyover.
There's some really funny fans. There was the dude doing the fucking dude doing a suck it.
He looked like he was 50 years old wearing a Hawaiian shirt. That guy was living.
I don't know who's going to these games, but I fucking love them.
Do you think it'd be fun to go to a game right now?
I was thinking about this.
Would it be fun to go to, not World Series game,
would it be fun to go to an NFL game that had like 10,000 people?
Yes.
You think so?
Yes.
Traffic would be sweet.
Everything would be sweet.
You could just sit in your own fucking section.
Everything would be sweet. In these World Series games, the fans, I don't think any of them have jobs, but they look like they're having a great time.
Like, they really do. Yeah.
Every time they show someone, it's some older dude with a Hawaiian shirt. I mean, he literally was an old dude with a Hawaiian shirt doing suck my dick.
And then the guy the night before who threw the glove on. Yeah.
And then the shirt guy. Nice swing, bitch.
Yeah, nice swing. What a great crew.
You usually don't get those in baseball audiences, especially not in the postseason because the tickets are like $5,000. Somehow this World Series, the entire fan base, the entire stadium is just full of like everyone's cool divorced dad they know.
Yeah, I know. It's just a lot of uncles a lot of uncles yeah in baseball you never get neutral sites like these fans don't really care who wins i think there's real fans there there's a lot of news they're just there for a good time uh all right let's get to dion and then we will wrap up with some football guy of the week and who's back of the week before we get to dion sanders want to talk to you to you about our great friends over at...
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All right, back to part of my take. And now here's Deion Sanders.
All right.
It is Monday, so we have our favorite coach, Coach Prime,
talk to us 10, 15 minutes about the NFL Sunday, week seven.
Where do you want to start, Deion?
We could start with the Falcons being a dumpster fire.
We could start with the Cowboys being even bigger of a dumpster fire.
We could start with what else? The Patriots being a dumpster fire. Yeah, or Tom Brady being incredible at age 43.
Where do you want to start? What stuck out to you? Let's start with the Patriots. I know Dan is just taking a dump right now.
He has to be furious. I didn't see that one coming.
I didn't see it coming. The Patriots aren't as good as
some thought they were. I didn't think they would win the division anyway.
I still think Buffalo's going to do that. But what they did today was horrible.
I've never been able to associate that word with the Patriots over the last decade. But that today was horrible.
And so, I mean, I agree.
It was a very bad game.
What, though, is the fix?
Because Cam Newton, and there was a lot of talk early on of, you know, how did all these teams pass up on Cam Newton? If you take out the Seattle game, which every Seattle game becomes a track meet up and down, he hasn't looked that great passing the ball. He's looked good running the ball at times.
So what is the fix? Is it mechanics? Is it he's not fully healthy? Where do you see it going to try to get this back on track for them? Well, first of all, let's start with the defense. That's true.
The defense is a glimpse of what it once were. And Cam is the kind of quarterback that thrives on a good defense that they could control the clock and run the football um with his read options and all of that when cam has to sit back in the pocket and throw you back into the game that's not who he is he's not gonna be successful i've never said heard no one say consistently hey man boy cam is just – eight is alive throwing the ball today.
I really hadn't heard that associated with Cam Newton.
I heard a couple people use the E-word,
they tossed the E-word out there about the Patriots saying
they've never seen a New England team play with this little effort
as they did this week.
So it's tough for me to watch a professional football team on TV
and know from the outside when they're not giving 100% effort
and when they are.
From your mindset, do you actually think that –
Thank you. to watch a professional football team on TV and know from the outside when they're not giving 100% effort and when they are.
From your mindset, do you actually think that maybe they've just taken their foot off the gas? Maybe there's something mentally going on? I just think it's the level of play on the defensive side of the ball. Offense as well, but really on defense.
That's what we see consistently with the Cowboys. Come on, guys.
You got to try a little more than that like when you start seeing long runs and you start seeing like explosion plays with run we understand you to have an explosion play which means 20 yards or more offensive play I understand that with a passing game but when I was a running game when the run has explosions that don't make any sense that means guys are not getting to the ball guys are not doing their jobs guys are not filling their gaps and it just consistently is the kind of things that we see for the Cowboys not necessarily the Patriots but we saw it today so if you look at those two teams the Patriots and the Cowboys uh you've been on some pretty good teams in the past at what point does Deion Sanders say it's time for the players only meeting we're gonna We're have ourselves a little chat minus the coach. Like is now the time to be pushing that panic button? The Cowboys should have did that last week.
They should have broke the glass because it is a case of emergency. And the Patriots should be doing it Monday morning.
They should be doing it tomorrow because somebody needs to stand up and talk and take control because what they did today at home, oh, my God, it was bad. But I tell you what, on the flip side of that, the 49ers look like the 49ers that we saw at the end of the season before they went to the Super Bowl.
That's who they look like. With all the injuries that they have, they still look great.
Yeah, no, it's incredible. I mean, Kyle Shanahan is such a good coach, the fact that they're able to do that with all those injuries.
So the players-only meeting, can you only do it once a year, or could you get two? Can you sneak in a second? Yeah, you can sneak in a second. You can sneak in a second.
You can. What I don't like is the leaders-only meeting.
Because if the leaders were leading, it were leading it wouldn't take that i don't think that yeah i don't think that a leader would have a leaders only meeting because why are you gonna why are you gonna exclude the people you're supposed to be leading jim boylan had his leadership committee that's true and that worked out it worked out really well that was a bad so all right so so in a players only meeting uh can everyone talk or is it No. Okay.
So explain it to us because we've never been in a players-only meeting, obviously. Okay.
It's like the dogs would – okay, I'm just giving you history. Suppose we had a players-only meeting in Dallas.
So Troy has the authority to get up and say something. Mike Irvin has the authority to get up and say something.
Emmitt as well.
Defensively, it probably was a guy like myself,
Darren Woodson, Charles Haley, could get up and say something.
Everybody else got to sit down and shut up.
Right, sit down and shut up.
Unless it's that guy that's really not known,
but he works his butt off and he has the respect of the team,
he could possibly say something. Have you ever been in a players-only that like turned the entire season around where it actually worked no no and it's and now does is there is there one guy in the players only meeting that you know you got your eyes on you're like this guy's gonna go just snitch to the coach he's gonna tell everyone he's gonna tell the coaching staff exactly what's said here no because good teams you don't have that that guy because you get rid of him.
Yeah. He's like, he got to go.
I feel like – Yeah, you make sure he's gone. I feel like Charles Haley was a good person to have on your side and a player's only – He should probably just like walk out there naked and start body slamming people.
Now, Charles, the naked part, I don't know how you knew that, but the naked part is authentic. I mean, there's been like books written big nude guy yeah so like he was like when he's in the locker room he would only basically put on pants if he was walking out of the locker room right yeah charles did anything you could think of anything a game day anything you could think of charles did you do you know that like we know everything about those cowboys or are you saying we don't know like would you if we were like oh yeah remember michael irvin's white house you'd be like how do you know that we know everything about those Cowboys? Or are you saying we don't know? If we were like, oh, yeah, remember Michael Irvin's White House? You'd be like, how do you know about that? You know a lot of stuff, but you don't know about everything that happened with those.
That was before the prime. That was before me.
I mean, I wasn't there in those days. Right now, I just Googled Charles Haley when the first thing that came up was an article called Charles Haley, the last naked warrior.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
What a great title.
All right, so the Falcons, I mean, what do you even say?
Like, they're inventing new ways to lose. We say this every week.
But that was Todd Gurley goes down and the Falcons win this game.
Instead, they're now 1-6.
They should be 4-3 essentially.
Like, they have to now – wouldn't you say the Falcons,
like they should be looking to trade some of these guys, right?
Who's going to want them?
Julio Jones, you don't want them?
No, no.
They can't trade Julio.
Julio is the franchise.
You can't trade Julio.
But that's what I'm saying.
You kind of got to start to make some tough decisions.
But I guess they don't know who's going to be in charge of the team next year.
So who would have the authority to trade anybody right now?
Arthur Blank, I guess.
Well, I'm pretty sure they have a handle on it.
This is what they've got to start concerning themselves with, the quarterback.
The quarterback and the owner has a real relationship.
And they've got to figure out what direction they're going to go.
Because when fans turn on you and start saying, man that guy has to go you're going to have a problem but he's attached to the hip with the owner i'm not saying that it's it's matt ryan's turn to go but that's the first thing oftentimes people blame is the quarterback yeah that's been the most consistent thing there yeah yeah no it's true and it's always it's always interesting when it feels like a franchise player has a true friendship with an owner because it can get messy right I think they have more than the friendship uh what about Pittsburgh Tennessee can we talk about that game for a second because my takeaway was I still think that the Titans are really good the way that they came back in the second half. I think that either one of these teams, like any given Sunday, could beat the other.
I didn't walk away being like, damn, Pittsburgh, they have their number. Your assessment is 100% accurate.
And I think Pittsburgh won in spite of Big Ben today. How many times did you win the game and the quarterback throws three picks? He was on one.
He was feeling himself. He was old school Big Ben.
Like how many times? That never happened. There's no way possible.
It's like unwritten rules in football. If a quarterback throws two picks or more, it's almost impossible to win.
And if you get a punt return or kick return or a special teams touchdown against you, there's no way you win it. That rarely ever happens.
And they won today in spite of. Now, on a great note, I cannot believe, but I can and I'm happy that Baker played well.
I'm happy. Okay.
I'm happy you brought that up because that was going to be my last question because Odell gets hurt, very sad. We don't want to see – everyone loves watching Odell Beckham play.
You know, there's hot takes
about him, but I'd rather watch him play than
not. Baker then goes
just insane in that game.
What... Are you
going to eat a little crow for me? What are you
going to do? No, they played the... I don't know if you
know they was playing the Bengals. Yeah? I don't know if you know
that. Okay.
Yeah, they was playing the Bengals. So
let's not burst our
hands clapping. Let's not make our hands red
clapping for Baker, but I'm happy
that he showed us something i really am i'm you don't sound happy because he when he when he plays well my guys play well when he plays well my guys get you know they get the balls they get credit and now you see that you got guys to throw to you just got to do your job. And he played well.
He had like 21 consecutive completions. He started out like shit, obviously.
He threw the interception. But still, you should eat a little bit of crow.
Just eat a little crow. Eat a little crow for me.
Just put a little crow in your mouth. Just eat the nails, the toenails from the crow.
It's 21 straight completions. How many went over 10 yards? Oh, see, I knew you weren't.
I knew you weren't giving Baker credit. I knew it.
I saw one that was not real. I saw one that went over 10 yards, and it went to the end zone, and it won the game at the very end of the game.
Did you see that one? Hey, hey, hey. Let me tell you something.
I'm going to tell you one of the funniest things that happened. When I watched the video of us and the way you were turning around looking, you knew something was up.
That was the funniest part of the video. You knew something was up.
The way you looked and turned around before it even went down. Right.
Then I messed up when I said my website. I messed up when I said my website.
Yeah, I was like, what the hell? Dion tried to dunk on me in the office, and he called me and Big Head over. He's like, let me get a picture for my website.
And I'm like, what do you mean? Your website? You mean BarstoolSports.com? And Big Cat said website. Yeah.
Yeah. And then you tried to dunk on me.
I swatted you, and then I mossed you. I don't know if you saw the still frame of me mossing you.
You had your head in your hands. I jumped away from it.
Bent over, running away. I jumped away from it.
And then I spiked the ball in your face. I wasn't there for you to spike the ball in my face.
But when you turned around and flinched because you knew someone was up, that was the funniest part. I didn't flinch.
That's called reaction time. That's called keeping fluid hips.
Right, right. Being ready for anything.
It's true. Fluid hips.
I like fluid hips. I actually had one last question.
Arch Manning, are you going to let PFT and I go and recruit him for jackson state because we will no i i don't i don't know if he'll be comfortable there jackson state we'll make him comfortable i want you to make him comfortable but i don't know if he would be okay well i don't think he grew up in that environment let us let us recruit him you know what i'm going to put you guys on things that i know could really attain. I don't think that's attainable.
Put us in a position to succeed. Actually, wouldn't that be a wonderful moment for America if we could recruit Arch Manning to go play for Coach Prime at a historically black college? But you've got to understand that that's going to be hard, though though because it's a kid in my house that my
coaches are recruiting right now that i want to play quarterback at the hbcu that i coach at okay so you should actually so to set us up for success you should let us recruit your son to play for you you know what i tell you what you guys got to come up with five things uh-huh that you can do say that my son would want to come.
Five ways.
Five things.
And you guys got, trust me, what I saw the other night at the boxing thing, you guys got a lot of ways to get it done. You guys are so versatile.
Number one, best reason to do it, you have offensive guru, future quarterback whisperer, producer of the Yaks, Stephen Shea, that's going to be giving you plays.
So he's going to be putting some stuff in that will blow your mind.
Shea is balling.
Shea has exploded my email already.
My email has just burst.
I'm using two of his plays this week as a I'm going to take a chance,
and if they make it, he's in.
Oh, my God.
You're creating a monster. I'm rooting for them to fail.
I just want you to know because he is – I want him to be successful in life, but he's got to be gradual because if he gets too much too fast, he's going to rub all of our faces in it. Steve DeShane is good, man.
He got some good stuff, man. He's going to clip this.
God damn it. All right.
We'll have to take this part of the show. We're going to have to take this out.
All right, Coach, thank you as always. We will see you next week, all right? Appreciate you guys.
God bless you, man. Do not ever forget me again for the boxing match, or we're not going to be friends.
Okay. There we go.
There we go. Don't ever forget me again.
All right, guys. All right.
See you. See you, Coach.
Okay, thanks to Dion. Let's get to our Football Guy of the Week, and we will finish up the show with who's back.
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Feet. Feet.
Feet. Feet.
Feet. Feet.
Feet. Feet.
Feetner. Did you pronounce that correctly? It is Feetner.
Jake was freaking out trying to figure it out. I took like 20 minutes to find it out.
Feetner.
Feet?
Feet.
Feetner.
Feetner. Feetner.
Feetner.
That's like Rex Ryan's wet dream.
How many, how do you spell it?
F-I-C-H-T-N-E-R.
But it's Feetner.
Feetner.
Yeah, it's Feetner.
Okay.
It's like David Fincher.
We're going to call him Feetner.
So what's the deal with David Feetner?
He said he hasn't gotten a haircut, gone to a gas station or restaurant or grocery store since March 16th. Wow.
So he's a huge libcock. Or he's like the complete opposite and just a mountain man.
I wrote about this. He was maybe a survivalist and had an apocalypse bunker that has come in very handy over the last six months.
Yeah, I wrote about it in the Football Guy blog. The first half of the streak is due to circumstances out of its control, but after summer, I think we've all gone to...
Yeah, yeah. Right, you're here, yeah.
He just liked it. He liked being lonesome.
I don't know... Probably sucks for his wife.
How do you survive? He's like, oh, sick brag. You haven't done anything around the house.
Yeah, she's like, no, I can't confirm that. He that.
He probably coronavirus hit, and he was like, guess what, honey? Can't take out the trash. Can't do the dishes.
Can't do anything. I think that if you're a real football guy, you would have just stayed at the office the entire time.
Yeah. I don't know when I'm going to be able to get back in if I leave, so I'm just going to kind of make this my little guy nest.
Yes. Stephen F.
Austin head coach Colby Carthel.el i saw this he took his shirt off and celebrated with his team immediately after his lumberjacks had a big win on saturday a beautiful thing it was great because if you see the screen grab you're like uh is this just a random dude who ran from the stands and then someone's like that's my coach yeah what do you mean that's your coach oh that's the strength no that's my head coach the head coach sometimes when us guys just get excited about stuff the first thing that we think of doing is just taking off clothes yeah for some reason just like it brings you in tune with your happiness a little bit um a couple of high school football teams in michigan they played each other in a big time mud bowl over the weekend i don't know if you guys saw this on friday i didn't. I saw the picture of it.
Explain it to me in exquisite detail. Dirty.
Muddy. Okay, hold on.
Hold on. Slow down.
Yeah. You couldn't make out the numbers because they were cold and mud.
So it was like, nice. That was, oh no, Beckham's wet drain.
Yeah. Okay.
So I'm studying on that right now. Sloppy.
Sloppy. Nice.
Was it slippery? Squishy. Slippery, squishy.
Oh, the squishy time. Chewy.
Yeah. Okay.
So there's a film study on that right now. Sloppy.
Sloppy. Nice.
Was it slippery? Squishy. Slippery, squishy.
Oh, the squishy time. Gooey.
Moist. Moist.
Any rocks in that mud? That sucks when there's a rock in the mud. Yeah.
I don't know. All right.
Okay. And then we're ending things with Bills fan Mike Jeswald, a pilot who drew a Buffalo Bills logo in the air over the team stadium and surrounding areas.
I mean, this guy has to win this week. If you look at the pattern that he flew in the air, first of all, the attention to detail, he did include the Buffalo penis in it, which people don't talk.
I'm on a one-man awareness-raising wrecking crew to just let people know that the Buffalo does have a penis in the logo. He has that.
He made like every single sharp turn, including some as Warren Sharp pointed
out, like he risked his life to execute
a turn this sharp to draw
the logo just perfectly above
Western New York. It's unbelievable.
In fact, when I first saw it, I thought it was fake. I was like,
there's no way. If you got like
Prison Paul on here, who was
breaking down like the pilot maneuvers and loose
change, if you got Paul Watson
to look at this, he'd be like, there's no way that an untrained pilot would ever be able to pull off this tournament without like 30 years in a jet. All right, so Football Guy of the Week, Philips Norocco, vote.
Philips Norocco, one-blade football guy of the week. I was a Virginia fan.
Won it last week. He was random when we did this podcast, and then he came after us on Twitter, and now we know his name.
Okay. There we go.
Oh, he was the FU COVID guy. Yes.
Oh, perfect. Perfect.
Perfect. Okay.
Thank you, Jake. Great job.
Phil Sorocco, OneBlade, Football Guy of the Week. Go vote.
Hank, you want to start with who's back of the week? Sure. Is it Khabib? My who's back of the week is Khabib.
Yeah. Why? He fought this weekend, moved on to 29-0, and then he retired, and it came out football guy that he had a broken foot the whole time.
Wow. And he did it for his dad, who passed away recently.
That's why he's retiring. Right.
He said he can't. This was his dad.
But he won it for him, too, right? Right. His dad passed away in the past year or so, and then so he's like, I can't do it again without my dad.
I'm upset just because he's such a good fighter, but also his hats are just must-see TV. You tune in to see what kind of hat he's going to wear afterwards.
That and I don't know if you guys ever seen the clips of him when he talks to his opponents as he beats the fuck out of them. It's the scariest thing in the world.
When he's just like, just smashing someone's face, and he's like, I deserve this, like, title shot. I deserve this.
I'm the one. Like, sorry I had to do this, but I have to do this.
I'm the one. Yeah, and he's such a good fighter that he's fighting, like, the best competition, but there just hasn't been anyone that can challenge him.
Yeah. Really at all.
What did Conor say? Conor was like, yeah, he was like, respect for your father. He was like, thank God I don't want to get my ass kicked again.
Good performance, Team Khabib. I will carry on.
Respect and condolences on your father again. Also, to you and family, yours and Celia and McGregor's.
Wow, that's pretty nice. That's very classy.
And I think that means McGregor's next fight will be a title fight. Yeah, and McGregor, again, doesn't have to get his ass kicked by Khabib.
Because the way Khabib kicks your ass has got to be the worst way. It's demoralizing.
He's a snake. The whole foot-stomping stuff, too.
It's just like you realize very quickly, stepping into the ring, that you've made a grave mistake with your entire life reaching up to that point. What I saw that was crazy was the one of him in the river.
It was like an ice-cold river. He was swimming upstream, and he was just flying.
Do you think you could catch him? No. If he was was a fish i could be able to if he was slippery you could know when i say snake i mean it in a very positive way in the fact that he just will he like strangles a life out of his opponents and makes him tap and it's awesome what are you looking at hank yeah that's a touchdown uh pft what's your who's back my who's back of the week is the shiano man.
And Rutgers is back. Rutgers got a big win.
They are bowl eligible. I kind of told everyone who listens to the show on Friday that was going to happen.
They are bowl eligible. You're welcome.
I did. I told everyone I love Rutgers.
I love Indiana. Really, they just have one more win to hit the season over, which I did take on Rutgers because I'm a believer in the Sh man, at least for a short period of time, I will believe in the Seattle man.
So it's good to see him back.
And then my other who's back of the week is another coach who we love that we haven't
seen around in a while is Hugh Jackson.
Hugh Jackson went on the radio in Cleveland and discusses Baker Mayfield.
He said, I think Baker is not playing in a system in my mind that showcases his talent
and ability.
So if there's one person that knows exactly how not to showcase Baker's ability, I would take it from Hugh Jackson. Did you see Hugh also is a big time like DM reply guy? I saw some of those floating around.
Oh, really? People like giving him shit. And he's he's a big like, you know, I'm praying for you.
I'll think about you. It's sad that you have to belittle yourself and your family by trolling on the Internet type of guy.
He's trying to improve people like one passive aggressive comment at a time. He's the last human on Earth that thinks you can change someone's opinion online.
Bless your heart. I'm going to try to fix that.
I just have to explain it to people. That's all.
I got to explain it to them in DMs on Twitter, and they'll totally see my side. The article I read about him was very funny, maybe unintentionally, because it quoted him as saying, the alpha male Baker is not playing as well as he thinks he should or anyone thinks that he should, said Jackson, who went 3-36-1 as head coach of the Browns before being fired midway through the 2018 season.
So, yeah, I'm here for more Hugh Jackson, like going back, doing the whole talk show circuit again, and saying how Kevin Stefanski is screwing up the Browns by having them at 5-2 or whatever. I could deal with a little bit more Hugh Jackson in my life.
He is prime. I really want to be relevant.
Oh, I remember what it was. Someone was like over under like five wins that you would get would get.
You wouldn't win a game if you went to the Browns or something, back to the Browns, and he was like, ha, I won six games when I was with the Raiders, as a brag. And I was like, Hugh, that means you were six and ten.
But you also won three games as the coach of the Browns. He's become like the John Kasich of sports, where he just has stunk at everything that he does, but he goes back on the air saying that he was an expert when he was there doing it, which, I mean, if you look around sports media in general, that's the name of the game.
Absolutely. So more Hugh Jackson making a fool of himself.
All right, my who's back is having something nice and then having it crushed. So Graham Mertz, Friday night.
Did you guys watch? Wisconsin quarterback. He was electric.
20 for 21, five touchdowns. Pretty much like, I don't know, I was losing my mind.
Like, hey, we have a real quarterback. And then it came out today that he tested positive for the Coco.
And the Big Ten, in their attempts to get football back, made the rule that if you test positive for the cocoa, you'd sit for 21 days. So just as I was like, this is going to be incredible.
We're passing it down the field. Well, who are your next three games? Nebraska, someone else that will beat, and then Michigan.
Okay. The backups are Chase Wolfe.
Purdue in the middle. Oh, man.
All right. You know what? Hold on.
Timeout. Timeout.
I'm going to say something nice about Purdue because Purdue and I have a rivalry where Purdue fans hate my guts. Purdue, I bet on Iowa.
I thought because Jeff Brom, Rondell Moore, both out. I was wrong.
Purdue was very, very good against Iowa. That's a gutsy win.
That's a decent team. And therein lies my very nice compliment about Purdue.
I'll say this. So you're worried about them? You still have 75% male at your college.
And that sucks. I could never last for four years on your campus.
That takes a tremendous amount of intestinal fortitude. You got astronauts.
Yeah, no. I'm hoping it's a false positive, but who knows? The Big Ten, this is where it all kind of falls apart with the Big Ten, having these rules.
Because they made these rules dragging their feet, being like, all right, we'll come back, but we've got to be extra, extra cautious. And now 21 days makes no sense.
It makes no sense, right? It's just an arbitrary number that sounds a little bit longer than most schools. Than 14, right.
They're like, okay, what's longer? It's more than a fortnight. One week more than 14 more than 14 yeah so um i mean nick saban beat covet in like nine hours it was less than that yeah so i think graham marce can probably play but whatever i'll i will can't still going through it big cat that's true he's got the brain fog that's right you don't want to rush him but he said chase wolf is the chase wolf and danny vandenboom yeah great names doug's names chase 100% Dutch names.
Entrepreneurial names. Danny Vandenboom.
Yeah, great names. Doug's names.
Chase Wolfe.
100% Doug's names.
Entrepreneurial names.
Danny Vandenboom.
What's a good literally translates for Chase Wolfe?
I don't know.
Wiley Coyote.
There you go.
Chase Wolfe and Danny Vandenboom.
So, yeah, it was just perfect Wisconsin that I had that moment where I was like,
this is incredible.
We have a real quarterback.
And then he tested positive for the Coco in a shortened season with this stupid 21-day rule. So he's going to miss like half the season.
Great. Awesome.
All right. Wait, wasn't he in the same meeting rooms as the other quarterbacks? I have no idea how any of this works.
It's fucking so stupid. That would be tough if you guys just didn't have a quarterback.
You just run an entire, like, what is that formation that we talked about with Warren Sharpe where it was all fullbacks? Yeah, we could. We have the ability to do that.
Literally translates to Ramsey Bolton. There we go.
There you go, Hank. Nice, Hank.
I understand that reference. Nice.
And we, yes. Game of Thrones.
Game of Throniacs. Timely.
Throniacs? Yeah, Throniacs. We're the Throniacs.
Yeah. The Got Squad.
All right. Do you want to do a who's back because Billy's not here, Jake? Yeah.
Thank you. I have two.
Oh, wow. Whoa.
Kind of an overachiever. Okay.
First, the early 2000s Phoenix Suns. Oh, yeah? Steve Nash.
Amari Stoudemire? Amari Stoudemire. Wine baths.
Amari Stoudemire, yeah.
Yeah.
He's going to get KD and Kyrie on that.
Wait, what's going on?
He added him to his coaching staff.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
So tell us who's on the coaching staff.
Just Amari and Steve Nash?
No, there's others.
Yeah?
Like?
Those are the only two that matter.
Sean Marion?
I don't know.
Let's see.
Okay.
Rajabelle would be good.
Diao? I like that. Amari Stoudemire.
They were a really fun team to watch. Yeah.
Of course, they got fucked by the Spurs. They got fucked by the refs.
All-time video game teams, too. Well, they kind of fucked themselves, but it was more the Spurs.
It was Bruce Bowen being a scumbag. I think it was Bruce Bowen.
It was Jock Vaughn. Was it Bruce Bowen? Javon Bryant.
Jock Vaughn was on this. He was there last year, yeah.
Was it Bruce Bowen who was a fucking scumbag to the Suns and started that?
I think it was.
I think it was.
Where he shoved Steve Nash into the scores table?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Bowen.
But the Nets are also going to be doing the alternating coaches thing.
So really, it's not Steve Nash heading it up.
We're going to get head coach Mario Stoudemire.
Hopefully, he will bring the wine baths to the Nets. Yes.
How much does a wine bath cost? Well, I think it's as cheap as the wine. So, Franzia is the sponsor that we love.
The best way to do it would be these fronze. Prices range anywhere from $75, which will get you a simple thermal bath and aromatherapy and access to the relaxation area to $550 which will get you the red wine ritual.
There you go. And then you can sell your bath wine to all the simps out there.
Oh, it was Robert Ory. I think it was Robert Ory.
Bruce Bowen was a scumbag for other things, maybe. He was just a pest.
But Robert Ory was the person who did that so they were the spurs basically stopped
the sons from getting a title because of the stupid you can't leave the bench rule that was
in place because one time ron artest went and beat the fuck out of a bunch of pistons fans
one time and then everyone had to change every rule um my other who's back is uh you were like
four yeah i don't remember it's crazy recurring guest You were like four. Yeah, I don't remember.
That's crazy. Recurring guest, Andrew Siciliano, back on the DirecTV Red Zone channel.
Great to see him back. It was, but he's all healthy.
Yeah, I'm glad he's safe. I'm glad he's very healthy.
He's a recurring guest. Yeah.
I do not like him. I don't have a problem with Andrew Siciliano.
I do. But...
He bothers me. He...
When you listen to more Scott Hanson, you realize that Siciliano. Scott cares.
Siciliano sometimes sounds like he's on Quaaludes a little bit. Scott cares.
Scott cares about the gamblers out there. He cares about fantasy.
He cares about telling people, not giving people false hope. He cares.
They're both great. Siciliano is just there to cash a paycheck.
No. He enjoys himself.
He does. Scott Hansen's only job is red zone.
It's literally his only job. Do you do anything else? I think he hosts a few NFL Network shows.
I don't think so. But then they brought Dan.
I've never seen it. Was it Dan Helley that they brought in when Siciliano was out? He was great.
It was interesting. He was a breath of fresh air.
He very clearly got some instructions saying, like, don't say anything. Don't try to do this job better than Siciliano.
Yeah, probably from Siciliano. Siciliano made a hand laugh.
I was like, I will give you COVID if you do this job better than me. I'll cough in your mouth if you try to say anything.
I don't recall. Jake is an ongoing theme on Sundays.
I got to stick up for my fellow alum. Jake, at some point, you just have to be like, hey, call a spade a spade.
Sometimes a guy screws up. And Ciceliano, being born is a screw-up.
No. The cat's getting mean.
We got Rangert cat right now. That's not nice.
I mean, he's led me astray many a time. Mention the fucking Cody Parkey miss being a gambling moment.
Mention it.
Just mention it. Okay? I think
he does a great job. It's a very
tough job. It's a lot of prep.
Oh, there we go. We have had him on.
I don't actually personally hate him.
He drives me nuts. And you know
what? It's one of those like
it kind of makes me, it kind of
gives me a little extra something. I'll give him
a backhanded compliment. It gives me an extra something on Sunday to have that hate in my heart.
So he keeps me sharp. Iron sharpens iron, Siciliano.
If you associate somebody, like if you watch a certain game and you end up losing your bet and he's the one that informs you that your bet loses, you end up carrying on some of that feeling towards him. Like if you're sick when you're like six or seven years old and you have the flu and you remember eating a certain food and then you can't have that food for the rest of your life without wanting to scream at it.
That's what Big Cat goes through with Siciliano for fucking him over on some bets when he was like 15 years old. It's good to have a foe every now and then.
It gives you something to wake up. When you lose a bet.
Correct. So you know what, Siciliano? You serve a great purpose for me.
You give me someone that I can just project all my anger onto. And for that, I thank you, sir.
And let me know when your birthday is. I will wish you a happy birthday.
I'm happy you were born. And happy is back.
All right. Let's do numbers.
Eight. Stick with eight.
Eight's going to pop up. 17.
17.
The Ocho.
Show it to me.
What would Billy have picked?
Someone say something Billy would have had picked.
26.
69.
26 is Billy's pick.
I hope he gets it.
21.
Nothing.
Who was close? Heidi Dean. Billy was close I was really close Jake This is not Do you have an animal fact? Love you guys Go ahead Do it You have nothing? You have no animal facts What was the name of one of you? Do you have any pets? Here, I'll send you guys this picture of my dog's boner.
Well, don't do it, Hank. No, Hank.
Here's the animal fact. Yeah, rookie.
Hank said to us, hey, you guys want to see a fucking huge dog boner? And BFD and I both said, no. Absolutely not.
Dude, this is the craziest. We're not bestiality, dudes.
This is the craziest dog. I mean, it's one of those, like, if I have to see you.
Do not send it. Do not send it.
No, we don't. I'm not going to look at it.
I'm going to block you. No.
I'm going to send your number to the FBI. Don't send it.
Alright. Here's a fun animal fact.
Koala fingerprints
are so close to humans that they could taint crime
scenes. Fun fact.
Wow. They also
get chlamydia right? They also get chlamydia
because they fuck. That's why they're finger
yeah. They finger and fuck all the time.
Classic koalas. See everyone Wednesday.
Love you guys. Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me.
Take on me.
I'll be gone.
It is true.
Take on me.