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On today's part of my take, we got some range, folks. We got two interviews.
Warren Sharp, our good friend Warren Sharp. We talked football, a little preview of the weekend.
Also, you know, just recapping the first four games what we're seeing trend wise what we're seeing who's surprising us who's disappointing us in the nfl get into all of that then we have the queen bethany frankel you probably know her from real housewives or skinny girl margarita awesome interview with her i think she likes us yeah i I think I would say so. she likes us i like her so it was a lot of fun to talk to her something a little different for everyone i've never seen real housewives so i didn't know what to expect going into this interview i i want her back on the show she's electric she's great she's electric she's got electric personality so i think everyone will enjoy that we got fantasy fathers a new edition and then we got Firefest and a weekend preview.
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Use code BARSTOOL. You get free ten dollars to the aspca today is friday october 9th and we're time traveling we are time traveling you're probably saying well why didn't you just say the bears are dead or the bears are back because we're taping this in the afternoon and we have uh coming up in a second our reactions to the game we're actually going to tape after the game after the recap everything but we're also going to give prediction which is going to be insanely correct insanely correct so pft big cat what do you think i like nick foals yeah i don't want to say i like the bears i don't like the bears but i like nick foals in this there's not a lot to like.
It's Tom Brady and Nick Foles. I've seen this movie before.
Do the math. Big Dick, Tiny Tinkler Tom.
I like the Bears. I like Nick Foles.
Nick Foles. Okay.
I think in my heart of hearts, I was very down on the Bears, obviously, on Sunday. That game wanted me to jump in front of a bus.
I'm back. I feel like the Bears are going to have a great effort tonight.
I also think PFT, I think the Bears' offense is going to look good. I think the Bears' offense is going to have some, I think they're going to have 200 yards? Yeah, 250 maybe.
I think they're going to have a good start of the game script. I Nick Foles has a you know it's a short week obviously but maybe just a little conversation with all the receivers I actually took a bet Allen Robinson two touchdowns is plus 800 I think that's going to happen okay and I think the Bears are going to come away from this being like hey you know maybe not the perfect game, but we just went toe-to-toe.
We beat the Bucs, and Nick Foles looks good, and Matt Nagy not a bumbling idiot. My entire outlook on this game is based on the opposite is going to happen to what I just saw last week.
So the Bears were so bad and so painfully boring to watch last week, and everybody is just talking about how shitty the Bears are. At that point, once everybody reaches a consensus, at least like this early in the season, unless it's the Jets who stink or the Ravens who are F-words.
The Chiefs that are good. The Chiefs that are a good football team.
Right. Whenever somebody reaches a full consensus, everyone thinks the Bears stink and their offense is painfully boring,

the script gets flipped.

Yes.

So something weird is going to happen tonight.

Here's my bold prediction for tonight.

It's going to be weird kicker night.

But I think weird kicker in your favor, which is something that you're not used to.

I'm thinking Cairo Santos might do something good.

I'm thinking, is it gay or is it suck up?

What a hilarious last couple of kicker names.

Gay or suck up, I don't know. Just occurred to me.
I think it's suck-up. I think suck-up is going to do something weird.
Yes. Whether it's miss two out of three field goals, maybe miss an extra point, maybe kick off out of bounds.
That's an illegal procedure. Give the Bears good field position, which they then turn into a field goal.
Big points. I'm actually.
I'm actually taking the over, too, because the Bears, again, look like they have the offensive ineptitude of a high school team that tries to run a single win for the first time. That's being generous.
So I think I'm taking the Bears. I'm taking the over.
So everyone's down on the Bears, obviously, after Sunday. Everyone's kind of weirdly saying that the Bucs are like a finished product.
I don't i don't think they are i mean we watched that chargers game if justin herbert doesn't uh you know that handoff at the end of the half doesn't result in a fumble i think the chargers probably win that game and we're looking at this a lot differently a bucks team that lost the saints struggled a little bit with the panthers and lost the chargers instead they're coming into it three and one on a three game winning streak. And everyone's like, look at the Bucs.
They're an awesome team. Huge X factor, which I know you saw.
I saw it this morning as well. It's going to be 66 degrees today in Chicago.
That is Mitch weather. He's still going to be there.
He's going to be on the sidelines. And actually, I made a power ranking list.
I'm going to wait until Monday to unveil this. But I have a power ranking of my top five quarterbacks in terms of how crisp their handoffs are.
And Mitch is up there. Nice.
Mitch does a great handoff. Nice.
Is Jimmy G up there? Jimmy G is up there, yes. He better be.
He better be. Actually, it's funny.
I had Jimmy G and I had Nick Mullins in my top five. Okay, nice.
It's the system. Yes.
Kyle Shanahan's system. Embarrassment of riches.
Yes. Okay, let's do the time travel.

Well, actually, you know what, Billy?

Why don't you say what you think is going to happen,

and then we're going to time travel,

so we are going to tape the reaction to the game after the game, obviously,

and that will be in a second.

But, Billy, tell us what you think is going to happen.

Tom Brady's going to skull fuck the Bears.

Oh, Hank says – Hank thinks – all right.

Hank, you have it down as one skull fuck.

Tom Brady on the Bears.

Billy, your prediction.

Yeah, I think it's going to skull fuck the Bears. Oh, Hank says – Hank thinks – all right, Hank, you have it down as one skull fuck.
Tom Brady on the Bears. Billy, your prediction.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a pretty low-scoring but close game. I think my man Gronk, he's going to, like, show some – I think he's going to show something tonight, but I'm not sure if he's going to, like, be, like, old Gronk.
And I think the game's really going to come down to – Who's going to win? I think he's going to be, like, kicking. I think the game's really going to come down to who's going to win.
I think it's going to be kicking. I'm going to take Bears here.
Really? But it's going to come down to whether Brady's been aging, whether we see Brady's age physically and kind of mentally. What? What do you mean by mentally? His mental age? I don't know.
Maybe he gets slower as you age. he's never been a fast quarterback yeah but you know all he's like supposed to be like the smart quarterback but like you know you're not always with it okay so so to recap billy you think that tom brady is going to make a mental blunder that's going to cost them the game and that the bears kickers are going to be really good yeah Yeah.
You're fucking stupid. All right, Billy.

Thank you.

Billy doesn't watch NFL, so he doesn't get predictions right, really. All due respect, no disrespect to families, our family, you're a fucking dumbass.

I'm sorry.

The truth sometimes helps, you know?

I thought it was an okay prediction.

All right?

Just okay.

All right.

Let's time travel.

Okay. We're time traveling.
It's after okay. All right.
Let's time travel. Okay.

We're time traveling.

It's after the game, and the Bears are back.

The Bears are back.

Where do you want to start?

Tom Brady thinking it was fourth down standing there,

and that was kind of a sad sight,

or Matt Nagy being an idiot and fucking up the clock

and the defense bailing them out? Oh, I'm so glad that Matt Nagy Nagy did that though because we got to see Tom Brady do that at the end that was yes that was a moment where he was just staring like a deer in the headlights at the officials because Tom Brady has never been that wrong about anything in his life I it was actually kind of sad to see because he was just standing there like what fourth down I get it it was was moving quickly it was bang bang bang at the end of end of a game I just um PFT we talked about Washington football team I think it was earlier this week maybe on Monday like being in and out you know in or out like you gotta you gotta find out pretty quickly this game tonight for the Bears was my in or out game if the Bears lost this game and lost it poorly, I would have been like, okay, they are frauds. Guess what? I don't think so.
Yeah. Nick Foles looked terrible in the first half, or probably the first 25 minutes of the game, turned it on at the end of the second quarter, and Khalil Mack was a monster.
And, like, Matt Nagy, that guy just is obsessed with throwing back shoulder passes to alan robinson that either get picked off or really fuck things up but other than that the bears actually played well and i'm i'm not gonna apologize and i'm also i got bad i got bad thoughts going on in my brain right now super bowl super bowl no not super bowl i mean the way that you're winning games these are all games that the bears would typically find themselves on the losing end on and by that i mean like these types of losses are bears losses but for whatever reason the script is i don't i don't want to hear anything about luck because i don't want to put that in your head but it is it's very weird almost like team destiny vibes. Like I don't use the word super bowl lightly.
Stop. All right.
Now, all right. That's enough.
Big cat. Can you imagine at the start of the season, finding out that you were going to start four and one and that you'd have a win over Tom Brady because he's going senile and he can't count to five anymore.
Like this is team of destiny stuff for sure. And Nick Foles, he's got, dude has ice water in his veins.
Except for one. His dick, obviously.
That's boiling hot blood pulsing through that thing. But his – you were talking about, like, the back shoulder throws that he was hitting down the field.
He is also a pass interference monster. He is.
The shark wheel worked very well. So everything out of the flats was great.
And then – no, he's so, Matt Nagy is obsessed with calling these Allen Robinson back shoulder passes that I think through four games or five games, it's been intercepted three times. A couple times it's been like Allen Robinson has just been like bullied out of it.
And then you had that one where he called when it was so obviously, if you run clock and kick a field field goal you give Tom Brady 30 seconds and no timeouts and the game is essentially over instead Matt Nagy's like let's make it as hard as possible let's make sure that they get a minute and a half and let's see if Tom Brady can can bring the Bucks down the field and it was almost there there was a couple chances they had uh but I look I'm not going to complain about Matt nagy tonight because the bears won and again nick foals started slow i actually we were sitting down in philly there were some rumblings about mitch i said no no no let nick foals settle in here started making some plays and again the defense like khalil mack was a monster an absolute monster tonight and uh yeah the bears are back i don't i don't else to say, but the Bears are back. I just like saying Tristan Wirfs.
It's a fun name to say. He got beat up, man.
That one play. Where Khalil sacked Brady, and then afterwards he sacked Tristan Wirfs.
He hip-slammed him. You should not be allowed to possess the strength required to throw Tristan Wirfs onto his head.
Like he just hip-tossed him. It was insane to see that.
What I was saying about Nick Foles, though, when he throws the pass interference ball, it's shades of Joe Flacco. That is a very efficient play to underthrow the ball by just enough to make the defender run into you, and you get that easy 15, 20 yards down the field if you need it.
Also, Bruce Arians, very confusing. I'm not talking yet about his play calling or his decision-making on fourth and short.
I'm talking about the switch to the transition lenses, away from the transition lenses. He's now wearing the clear glasses, no longer the dark shades.
I don't know what that's all about, but I think it had something to do with the fact that he went for it early in the game, fourth and one on their own 19, and then late in the game, they kicked a field goal to put him up by one. That was the most disrespectful, because that was Nick Foles, like I said, started off like, you know, the first 25 minutes was terrible.
That was the most, your offense is so abysmal, like we don't care if we don't get this fourth and one on our own fucking 19. Thankfully, it ended up not mattering in the end, but Jesus, that was a slap in the Bears' offense face.
Maybe that's what woke him up. Maybe going for it there was basically saying, hey, you guys suck so bad, we'll give you the ball in the red zone if we can't get this fourth and one.
It pissed Chuck Pagano off. Yeah, a win is a win.
A win is a win. So, all right.
You want to do the rest of the weekend preview? I would absolutely love. Guys, what? Come on.
Oh, yeah, it's true. No.
Okay. Credit where credit's due, Billy.
You were right. You were right.
You figured it out. Who are the dum-dums now? We're the dum-dums.
Yeah. You're a genius.
Yeah. I doubted you, Billy.
I'm sorry. You were right.
You were really, really right. Spot on.
All right. Just need some credit.
I think I might tail the psycho shit parlay this weekend just because. I mean, if you were able to nail it that much.
I think Billy has like a ESP with Gronk. He can just tap into Gronk's brain and figure out what's about to happen.
Showed some serious fire tonight. He did.
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See ahs.com slash contracts for coverage details, limitations and exclusions.. Okay let's get to the rest of the weekend preview uh let's go through the slate not a great one it's football they're all good in their own right objection it's football this is like uh if you have like seven kids this is the sixth kid who maybe goes to you know a public university public university and, you know, you love him, but, you know, he's not the first kid or the seventh kid.
He's just, you know. What's wrong with public universities? I went to a public university.
Yeah, so did I. Yeah, I know, but, I mean, I'm a disappointment to my parents.
That's true. Yeah, so there it is.
Yeah, it's not bad. The worst part about this weekend isn't just the matchups.
It's the realization that the season is slipping through our fingers. Because it's the first bye week.
I know. We're on a bye week.
Matt Patricia is on a bye week. Somehow survived until – what do you think he does to relax when he doesn't have football on the schedule? He probably actually just went into the woods because then he doesn't have to pick up a phone when they want to fire him.
That's true. If you don't check your mail, if you don't answer your phone, if you don't respond to text messages, you can't be fired.
Right. Just show up to work.
Be like, you never told me I was fired. I'm here.
You already paid me for the day. Might as well hang out.
Well, you know what? In Matt Patricia's defense, he inherited a bad organization, bad team, even though they were, I think, the most successful they'd been in like 20 years. Well, in Matt Patricia's defense they literally give up second-half leads of 14 or more points every week.
Just play 10 minutes. Except for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, just play 10 minutes. All right.
I think he goes fishing. Just throws a bunch of, like, slim-fast six-pack rings into the lake and then speeds away.
Maybe he builds a rocket. Maybe he builds a rocket.
That's true. People forget.
He's literally a rocket scientist. I was going to say he's probably crushing that Challenger documentary.
Okay, Hank. Rocket related.
Four in a row now? Four episodes in a row? That's a perfect analogy for his season thus far. Yes, yes.
Should have fixed the O-rings, Matt. Oh, man.
All right. Panthers, Falcons.
Let's start there. Falcons, this could be the end for Dan Quinn.
I have said many times I'm going to respect Teddy Bridgewater more, and that's why I love the Panthers in this game. And I just like, I mean, the Falcons, they have the players, but maybe they're just bad.
Also, yeah, they're coming off a short week. Yeah.
I don't think they're bad. They have the players.
I think they might be just bad. I'm having a hard time quitting both the Falcons and the Texans.
I know those are two teams that you have latched yourself onto in the past, but they both have so much talent. Yeah, I know.
Well, the Texans don't really anymore, but the Falcons are just bad. They're just straight up bad.
I'm going to withhold my pick on this game until I see if they're wearing the Deion Sanders all-black jerseys. Yes.
You know what they need to do? Although, no, they have new throwbacks, I think, which makes no sense of oxymoron, but they have new throwbacks. So their new throwbacks are like the mid-2000s? They look like no, I think they're like an interpretation of a throwback, but they're new.
Okay. Yes.
Like a period piece. Yeah, pretty much.
They're like this is what, if we had today's technology this is what we would have worn in the 90s it's like wild wild west the movie it's like what we're gonna go back in time and look at the wild wild west except guess what there's kick-ass mechanical spiders right destroy you and i'm will smith and i'm a fucking badass and also i invented rap in the 1800s right exactly got it okay independence day well that if those are that's will smith right yes yeah if those are the jerseys they're wearing, the fake throwbacks, then I'm going to say no way to the Atlanta Falcons. But if they're wearing the All Blacks, I'm going to bet on the Falcons this weekend.
Okay. Bill's Titans, is this game even going to happen? Probably not.
Nope. Has it officially been canceled or moved? Not yet.
Maybe by the time we record. Did you see Doug Farrar, NFL writer, had the hottest take.
Yes. He said cancel the entire Titans season because they don't respect COVID.
Well, no, I didn't see that. Oh, yeah, no, he canceled their whole season.
He blocked me on Twitter, so I did not see that. Same.
But you creeped on him? No, someone sent me. Someone was like, check out this take.
And I think it literally was like, so he did the power rankings. The power rankings, he had the Titans in 32nd because he said,

if they're not going to respect COVID, I'm not going to respect that.

And then he wrote a whole piece being like, cancel their season.

Okay.

Well, I think it's interesting that the Titans even got caught in the first place.

It's actually funny that it took them so long to be doing these practices

and get caught because they're a professional football team.

What professional football team do you know could show up at a local high school for like a week and a half doing constant like off-the-books practices and never get caught for it? It was like one guy that took it like one high schooler took a picture through a chain-link fence from 200 yards away. He's like, I think that might be the Titans that have been practicing at my high school field all week.
That's how forgettable the Titans roster is. That, um, that's a tough look.
I just, uh, yeah, this game, I, I can't stand the people who freak out after every positive test. I mean, it's similar to baseball.
Like we're going to have, when you're not in a bubble, things are going to go wrong. Right.
So, uh, just everyone chill out. Cause I've seen many times whenever there's a new test, there's a lot of hand wrwringing and like, so much for the NFL season.
That was fun while it lasted. It's still gonna go.
It's also a lot of virus shaming. Making fun of them for being sick.
I personally hope that the Titans get well enough to play a full schedule. I do too.
We have friends on the Titans. There was something that I think Adam Schefter threw this out earlier today saying that if all all these games start to get canceled, the league is talking about maybe just making it best winning percentage at the end of the season.
That would suck. They did that for baseball.
Yeah. So, like, there were some teams that didn't play all the games.
But I don't think it works for football. In the hunt graphics are going to get fucked up.
And the Eagles tie is going to look even better. They're going to have to hire a whole new slate of data scientists.
Right. The Eagles win the NFC East at like 3-5-1.
The Eagles should just stop playing right now. Yes.
1-2-1? It can't get better than this. That's good enough to get you.
Yeah, absolutely. That's the top of the NFC East this season.
Hank had a good take earlier today, though. He was saying that the NFL needs to be looked into because it just so happens that the Patriots' best player on offense and best player on defense have COVID.
But not enough for them to have to cancel games. So they have to play just without their best players.
Oh, interesting. Very interesting.
The pandemic squeeze out. With photo evidence of Gilmore and Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes broke protocol, hugged Stephen Gilmore, when he probably didn't even want to be hugged.
Yeah. But somehow he doesn't have corona.
But one of their backup QBs does. Or, flip it, Bill Belichick knew that Gilmore had corona.
He was like, hey, go hug Mahomes for us. Yeah, sent him over there.
No, because who do you think is doing the testing? Who's reporting on the test results? Patriots? No. NFL.
Oh, okay. NFL.
That was my answer. NFL.
What were you going to say, Billy? Belichick could be doing his own tests on off days. He definitely would.
Just for fun? For his own record keeping? Belichick probably thinks that Ernie Adams is a bomb-sniffing dog where he can just go up and he sniffs everyone's breath as they come into the facility. He's like, nope, doesn't have it.
Yep, has it. I'll bet you he's sending Steve Belichick team to team, collecting samples.
As long as you show up somewhere wearing a lab coat, people will be like, yeah, that guy's a doctor. So send him to their next opponent, get their swabs, check their DNA, bring it back to Papa.
Now he's got all the dirt. I like it.
My other national unbiased football reporter take is that Variable and the Titans are going to get extra fucked because he's a former Patriot. I just love where your mind goes like that.
I also love, so the Raiders and Chiefs. You agree though, right? They're going to come down hard, like super, super, super, super hard.
Probably. But not necessarily because he's a former Patriot.
But it's virus shaming. I like that line of thinking from you, though.
They're not going to cut and do him any favors. Yeah.
Raiders-Chiefs the next game might not happen as well. So that one we're hoping is going to happen, but it might not because people are saying their hand-wringing is going on where they're like, well, it's only a matter of time before the Chiefs start testing positive.
So it was pulled for a couple days on the board, and it's back on there. I also, just just as a side note i love that everyone is talking about the chiefs schedule because they played monday night then they're playing sunday then they're playing thursday and they're like the chiefs are going to play three games in 11 days if the schedule hadn't been fucked they would have played three games in 12 games 12 days that extra day helps so the, everyone gets fucked when they play Thursday Night Football.

It's telling on yourself to not

be like, wait, but

Thursday Night Football happens every week, so some

team always plays in this

short, condensed time. I like it when it's

even further in the distance involving

an even greater amount of time. So it's

like, can you believe that they're going to have to

play, like, five and

a half games in 28 days?

Yeah.

With time change. Yeah.
Play a West Coast game late. Exactly.
Yeah. When you look that far ahead and say how they're getting scheduled, fuck.
I do kind of like the Raiders in this. I do too.
Because I've heard a lot of talk this week about how John Gruden is saying this is not a rivalry because they kick our ass so much. So you know that John Gruden is playing like snuff films, like the worst highlights ever of Chiefs-Raiders games nonstop in the practice facility.
Well, they just have to go to last year because I'm going to probably take the Raiders in this game, but all I can think about is last year when Patrick Mahomes threw four touchdown passes in that second quarter. So that feels like it could also happen again.
Cardinals-Jets, I'm going to go quick here. Well, it's Flacco, right? Yeah, it's Flacco.
So there's a great quote, their offensive coordinator. By the way, do you know who the Jets' offensive coordinator is? I'm shocked they had one.
No. His name is Dowell Loggins.
Oh, yeah, Dowell Loggins. He used to be with the Bears.
Okay. Yeah.
That's why I'm not familiar with his body of work. Oh, yeah.
He was not good. He was the Bears offensive coordinator and performed so well.
He failed upwards. Is that the Bears to the Jets offense? Well, no, he was quarterbacks.
Well, he was quarterbacks coach, I want to say for Cutler. And then and then he got offensive coordinator.
Yeah, I would say going quarterbacks coach on the Bears to offensive coordinator on the Jets is a lateral move. Yeah, that is a lateral move.
No offense to DK Metcalf. But he said he definitely has a jersey toughness and a jersey edge to him about Flacco.
Okay. So jersey edge, I'm believing in Flacco short term.
Dowell Loggins is also a short king. He's 5'6".
There we go. Tough to coach the quarterbacks.
Give him a of Zoom. Over the offensive line.
Zoom 720s for that guy. This game is simple to me.
If the Cardinals are even remotely for real, they win this easily. And if they're frauds, they lose.
I think that, yeah, that's fair. It's like, this is your chance, Cardinals, to prove that I need to start taking you even a little bit serious.
If they don't cover spread which is seven they're not real f words correct uh eagle stealers battle of wensilvania i love when these teams play um by the way download the barstool sportsbook app because i know that we have that deal it's like a free it's a free sub in pittsburgh or philadelphia every single monday going for the rest of the season if the Eagles or the Steelers cover. Obviously, they both can't cover this game.
I think the Steelers are going to win. I think so, too.
And easily. I think so, too.
Because body clock. Yeah, Big Ben didn't play last week.
Which was an injury. If you had someone to complain and cry victim for other people getting coronavirus as Ben Roethlisberger, then you won.
Nothing. Because everyone expected that to happen.
Yeah, he was saying it felt weird not being able to play last week. These people got a disease that we still don't have a cure for.
But the real victim here is me. Because I didn't know that we were going to have a bye week.
And then we had a bye week. What do they call sandwiches in Pittsburgh? It's not a hoagie.
It's a hoagie in Philadelphia. Is it a hero? Is it a grinder? It might be a grinder.
Yeah. Oh, no.
I just searched grinder. That's not what that is.
Leave out the E. Okay.
Yeah, no, that came up. I don't know.
I mean, they just stuff. They put fries on them.
It's Permanente's. Okay, so if the Eagles win, everyone in Pittsburgh has to call them hoagies.
If the Steelers win, then you just have to put fries literally in everything in Philadelphia. All right, next game, Rams-Washington football team.
We talked a little bit with Warren Sharp about Dwayne Haskins. Surprising that he got bumped all the way down to third string.
I think, though, PFT, I think your Washington football team is going to come out as a live dog here

with someone who can maybe move the ball up and down the field.

I don't hate that notion.

Kyle Allen had, what, six good games?

Five good games?

Remember, small hands.

I'm putting that out of my memory for right now.

Stop saying it.

Stop saying it.

He had, like, five good games last year.

He had a moment.

He officially had a moment.

We had that moment where we're like, is Kyle Allen having a moment?

He beat Kyler Murray.

And so I'm going to ride Kyle Allen on this one.

I think he's got some magic in there.

I like that.

All right. He had a moment.
He officially had a moment. We had that moment where we're like, is Kyle Allen having a moment? He beat Kyler Murray.
And so I'm going to ride Kyle Allen on this one. I think he's got some magic in it.
I like that. Bengals-Ravens.
This is another one where I want to. So I promised myself that I would always take the Ravens against inferior opponents because they'll just shit pump them.
But I think Joe Burrow, this year the Bengals are not going to be good. But I'm – actually, no, I'm – yeah, no, Joe Burrow is 4-0 against spread.
So Joe Burrow is our spread god of the season so far. So you have to take the Bengals.
I like that. As the spread god.
I like that. I think the Ravens are going to win, but I think the Bengals are going to cover.
Right, exactly. Spread god.
Jaguars, Texans, this should be on Thursday night. Also, no one cares.
This is prime time. Forget about this game happening on Red Zone.
Well, it's false hope because it's an interim head coach, so you want to take the Texans just based on the spark, but as we said, Romeo provides no spark. Right.
He's an older Jim Caldwell. He's somehow, I think he's more alive than Jim Caldwell by the narrowest of margins, but he doesn't light that fire like you like to see a lot of interim coaches do.
I think he's more alive than Jim Caldwell simply because he's heavier, and when you're that heavy, it's obvious that you're breathing. I'll put it this way.
He's closer to death than Jim Caldwell is,

but he's less alive.

Correct.

If you had a zombie movie and you had a bunch of extras playing dead people,

you wouldn't want to do Romeo Cornell.

I don't think he could hold his breath for a while.

Yes.

Whereas Jim Caldwell,

you're like,

you're checking for a pulse.

You call the ambulance.

You're tickling the bottom of his foot.

Right.

Romeo, yeah, okay, I got that. I still think, I like the text.
Shout out to J.J. Watt, by the way, for the report out there that he essentially was the one who got Bob O'Brien, Bill O'Brien fired, yelling at him in practice.
Yeah. Which was awesome.
I love that out of J.J. because you know what? Bill O'Brien sucked, and if J.J.
Watt saved the city of Houston, he's been their franchise player for a long time now, but his legacy should be you finally got rid of Bill O'Brien by just being like, I'm fed up, I can't take it anymore. You know how much it takes for J.J.
Watt to publicly go after his coach like that in front of his teammates? Well, it was private, but in front of his teammates. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To be openly insubordinate at practice? Yeah. Bill, Bill O'Brien must have said some fucked up stuff about JJ.
Or he just was bad. Or he was just like, I'd rather have your brother on the team.
JJ's like, he's not better than me yet. I would imagine he just saw Bill O'Brien's face for the, I don't know, 1500th day in a row and was like, I just can't take it anymore.
I just can't take it anymore uh coach you're only uh 19 pleasure 9 pain i need you to be 100 110 reason to remember the name man good job jj all right dolphins 49ers just let me know when to a place that's all i got on this game agreed but this is i think uh the 49ers that we expected are going to show up this weekend. Is Jimmy G, what's his timetable?

I think he's playing.

He is.

Okay, nice.

His timetable is right here right now.

Yeah, let's go.

Colts-Browns actually probably the best game of the day.

You can't believe it, but Colts-Browns, 3-1 versus 3-1.

This is a big time.

If the Browns win, they're for real.

But that wouldn't make the Colts frauds.

No, I think... this is a big time.
If the Browns win, they're for real. But that wouldn't make the Colts frauds.

No, I think this is an are you for real game.

Oh, I don't know.

I think the Colts are good no matter what.

This is our first are we sure they're good game of the season.

But just for the Browns, I think the Colts are good.

I don't know if they are.

I guess they've only played.

They beat the Bears by like 10 points.

Yeah, and we did beat them in the fourth quarter.

We ran out of time.

That's true. All right, so fine.
Yeah, you're right. Let's do it.
Are we sure they're good game of the week, of the year? God, if the Browns win this. This is another one where I really feel bad.
Watch this season happen in 2020, and the Browns are 12-4, and the Bills are 14-2, and no fans get to get drunk in the Mooney lot or jump through tables in Buffalo. I think they'll make an exception.
If the Browns go to the playoffs, if you were to ask everybody in Cleveland, like, would you accept dying? If it meant that you got to go like an extended playoff run, I think we said the same thing about the bills. Yeah.
Those two franchises should be allowed to at the very least, sign a waiver. Worth the risk.
Yes. Easily.
All right, Giants-Cowboys. I'm surprised this game's not on Sunday Night Football.
This game sucks, and they rub it in our faces every year. So thank you to whoever made the schedule for not making me look at that uniform combination for the 20th year in a row in primetime.
I don't know. The Giants are so – the Giants have scored three touchdowns this year.
Three. Three.
That's tough to do. Three.
So the Cowboys, if you have any pride, you kill the Giants. Shit pump.
It's going to be a shit pump. You absolutely kill them.
Broncos, Patriots, probably not going to happen, right? When are they going to move it to? I think it's going to happen. Oh, it is? Yeah, yeah.
It's going? Cam is their best players, and then Belichick will probably have it too, and then probably Edelman. Who else is going to get it? All the Belichicks.
You guys can beat the Broncos with you could take the top half of your roster and cut it off, and I think Belichick would be able to beat the Broncos. Not if Bortles plays.
That's true. I didn't first half at least first half portals yeah second quarter said something nice about one of our friends almost and then you had to do that all right last game vikings seahawks primetime kirk cousins easy yeah fun fact you know how we talked to dk about him being tied with stefan diggs for the in reception yards? Yep.
He would have had that one if he had scored the touchdown. Yep.
He's tied with Stefan Diggs. The person who punched the ball out on the one-yard line, Stefan Diggs' little brother.
Yes. How about that? Yes, that is fun.
That's fun. Thicker than water.
Circle of life. Yeah.
All right. Let's go through our picks real quick.
Why don't you, Hank, why don't you just say all four and then PFT and then I'll say mine. Falcons are my favorite.
Okay. Eagles are my underdog.
Okay. Over in Saints, Chargers.
Yeah. Under in Jacks, Texas.
You can say okay. Okay.
Well, it's a Monday night game, so. So? We usually don't do the Monday night game.
That's why I didn't say that. Well, I've been doing the show for five years.

I could tell something was up.

Yeah.

All right.

Give me the over in Vegas Chiefs then.

Love it.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Hurricane Delta.

Okay.

Will that be up in Kansas City by then?

I think it's going to be hurricanes go that far north.

Well, I think the storm still just keeps going.

It's just rain becomes. It'll be a hurricane.
It becomes lesser rain. More of a trappey storm.
Delta. Hurricane Echo.
I'm going to go favorite Houston, minus six. Also, bonus favorite, New Orleans.
Because of the October... I like that pick.
No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't do Monday night.
No, we don't do Monday night. Put that on the board.
That on my official. I'll take that too.
Okay, Big Cat, you got it. Bill, you want it? My underdog is Browns.
Okay. And my logic for this goes no further than I like home dogs.
Yeah. I love home dogs.
Even though home field doesn't matter. I don't care.
I like home dogs. Thank you.
It's value. It's a value pick, Big Cat.
Thank you for saying that, Big Cat. The trends.
My over is Philly-Pittsburgh, 44 and a half, taking the over on that one.

And my under is Cardinals-Jets, 47. I like that.

That one, to me, that seems too easy.

I'm scared how much I like that one.

But that's a sign of a good relationship.

If you really like an under, it's always bad.

I'm really...

Sparks are flying between me and Cardinals-Jets right now.

Might be coming on too strong.

I'm going to take the Panthers, plus two. Respect Teddy Bridgewater.
Okay. The over and the Chiefs Raiders.
Yeah, I'm going against you. The over and the Chiefs Raiders.
You know what? I'm just going to die on, like, sometimes I'll make bets that I'll live with being wrong, just being like, well, now I can just cross you off as not a real team. If the Cowboys don't cover the nine and a half against the Giants, I'm just going to cross them off as not a real team.
So it's like a statement game. You either tell me that you're real or not, but otherwise I'm moving on.
And then I'll take the under in Dolphins 49ers. And then I have my can't lose parlay.
You guys ready for it? Hit me. It's not going to lose.
Last week was a setback. Last week was a setback, but that's okay because I went and I got my system right, the models, everything.
All right, here we go. What does the data tell you? Do you want me to start with the team that's least likely to win or most likely to win? But it can't lose.
Right. So how would you have that is least likely to well there's some that are uh closer to the can't lose border that's the can't not lose right bet all right cowboys they're gonna win niners they're gonna win hank you follow me yet no you don't like it no you're the you are the you're the you're the ombudsman for the can't-lose parlay.
I have not said anything. The Chiefs? Didn't say okay.
That's good. You're good.
Okay. All right.
I mean, you're picking just... Yeah, well, that's the can't-lose...
What? Did you not understand the can't-lose parlay? Did Hank just uncover the modeling behind the can't-lose parlay? It's taken super, super favors all the time because they're good teams. The Steelers? Eh, that's where it ends.
Okay. And then the Seahawks.
Little night game. Plus 270.
Plus 270 boosted on the Barstool Sportsbook app. I think it's like around 210.
Plus 214. I'm plugged it in.
But it's boosted. It's boosted.
Boosted. No, no.
Oh, you're telling me what the real one. There we go.
Okay, good. Good fact check.
Good fact check. All right, so 214 regularly, 270 if you want to bet it on the Barstool Sportsbook app under exclusives.
It cannot lose. Billy likes it.
Billy, what's your parlay? Billy's the parlay king. Billy's the parlay king.
If it lost last weekend, but if you had taken the Friends of the Program parlay, which one is one or two. The tank will never do.
Talk. I know you're looking at them when you talk, but you've got to talk into the mic.
Yep. Anyway, so this week's Friends of the Program parlay is, this is all Moneyline, Bengals, Browns, Jaguars, Rams, Niners.
Moneyline? All Moneyline. Billy, this is what happens.
Bengals? The Bengals pick you might want to change from a Moneyline to a Parlayer. That's where you lose a spread.
Make it easier. It's plus $5,695 on the barstools.
I plugged it in. Wait.
Wait, how much? $10? Yeah, if you gamble $20, you make like $2,500. So you retire for life.
$1,200 actually. Do the math again.
There's no way that's right. $1,200.
No. If you do all money line on those teams.
Only $1,200? And you put $20 in? Yeah. It's more than that.
Anyway. Whatever it is.
The end result doesn't matter. I've got some backup parlays.
I realized that you've got six different parlays. If you parlay every team, there's no way you can lose.
It actually can't lose. That's like hitting the all button in horse racing.
But make sure you do it responsibly. Responsible gambling.
1-800-GAMBLER.

If you think you've got a problem and you want to talk to someone,

that's serious.

That's dead serious.

This should be entertainment.

This is fun.

This should not be betting more than you have.

$20, that sounds like a fun Sunday.

Parlays, bet a little, win a lot.

Right.

Good point. Here we go.

That's a tagline.

Sounds like a Kenny Chesney song.

Billy figured it out. Can you imagine doing it the other way around? You'd have to be an idiot.
Yeah. Right.
Good point. Here we go.
That's the tagline. Sounds like a Kenny Chesney song.
Billy figured it out. Can you imagine doing it the other way around? You'd have to be an idiot.
Yeah. Right.
Can't lose parlay. Yeah.
That's what that is. Yeah.
Bitch. I mean, can't lose parlay is 2-2 this year plus money.
Just saying. I think it's awesome that Hank just figured out what the can't lose parlay is usually based around.
Yes. What are you doing? Why are you taking such big time? Well, this slate's kind of weird.
I had to do five teams. All right, before we get to our interviews, so we have Warren Sharp, football with Warren Sharp coming up, and then we have an awesome, awesome interview with Bethany Frankel.
If you don't know who she is, if you don't watch Housewives, you don't know Skinny Girl Margarita, you should listen to this interview because we love her. She's got some spice.
She's got a little spice

little like doesn't take shit.

You want to say spunk but you withheld that.

No I was going to say arrogance but it's like

funny arrogance. Like I love that type of

arrogance because she's self-aware

and arrogant but it's like a endearing

I love her. I feel like she's

on your Mount Rushmore with people that like I've seen you get

actually like very excited for.

And she delivered.

Bottom line she's just cool. She's a cool-ass chick.
All right. Let's do Fantasy Fathers.
Fantasy Fathers. Ready? Yes.
Hey, fellas. What's up? It's Joseph O'Shea.
How's it hanging? My stardom this week is raking.

Ruin your teenage kid's weekend by telling them they have to rake leaves for four hours before they can do anything else.

That's when you get a little fun time with mama.

You want to make sure you rake multiple times while there's still some leaves on the tree

so that you can do it again in two weeks.

Do me a favor, sport.

Rake in the same direction the whole time.

Don't mess up my mom.

Make sure you use the right trash bags.

They won't pick them up otherwise. My sit-in this week is Mark Andrews.
Yeah. He's touchdown dependent, and if he doesn't get any red zone looks, he's not going to get any points on your team if it's a PPR leak.
That's true. Can't score points if you don't get the ball.
And my sleep-a is snowflakes. Not the Libby McLibs.
The emoji. Oh.
Quavo showed the world that he got his girlfriend by just sending a snowflake emoji in her DMs, and that's what started their relationship. So just shoot the snowflake out on Tinder or your text message this weekend, and it's sure to work.
There's no difference between you and Quavo. Only DMs I slide into is dishwasher maintenance.
Make sure that thing is humming in time for the holidays. What's up, guys? How are you guys doing today?

Good.

Hi, good.

I'm Dad. A little tired.

Never enough sleep, you know.

I like telling Dad jokes.

You know, sometimes he laughs.

I'm starting Bug Spray this weekend.

It's taking a candle-making master class on the Great Courses.

You can find them right there on Google.

You can get books at the library as well.

It's important to keep the bugs away in the fall.

They transmit diseases.

You've got to be safe.

I'm sitting Kirk Cousins.

The game's starting too late at night for me.

I'm not going to stay up and watch it.

Also, it's just Kirk Cousins' prime time.

He likes to stick like a bitch.

He does.

Not a great griller.

Don't say the B word.

It's the B word.

Yeah.

Sometimes I like to sprinkle a little seasoning salt on one side.

That way it's a little treat.

I've got to watch my blood pressure and the sodium gets at me. They're throwing fish around in seattle i always like that little montage you know what you know what they call a fish with no eye dinner nice that's what they call dinner that's what they call a deer with no eyes i have no idea there you go good joke dad you usually let me say it uh i'm taking the uh my sleeper is taking the stairs it's exercise.
There we go. Your mother doesn't trust the stairs.
She says it's because they're always up to something. There it is.
All right. Anywho, I'm tired.
I'm tired. I'm dead.
All right. It's Dan Katz.
This whole thing feels a little too on the nose for being a dad, especially when PFT said the game was starting too late after I said that on Wednesday's show. Little tip of the cap.
My stardom this week is the thermostat. Because guess what? It's getting cooler out there.
Probably going to have the women in your household try to hit that heat. Don't let them do it.
Make sure that they get a blanket or a sweatshirt. They got to make sure that that living room stays nice and frosty all winter long.
Yeah. Layer up.
Put on some socks. I'm not paying for the heat.
Not those regular flimsy socks they make nowadays. Go get yourself.
The wool ones. Put the wool ones on.
But be careful on the hardwood floors. We've got a great pair of mittens in the closet.
Yes. Yes.
Not heating up the whole neighborhood. My sit-em is going to be Ben Roethlisberger.

Ben Roethlisberger

watches too much porn. I actually

had that problem too. I had a little addiction with

Mr. Skin back in the day.

Got a lot of viruses. Haven't used a computer

since. So if you're looking to email me

it will not work. But you can hit

me up at my Hotmail account.

My sleeper

M-A-L-E? Yes. Yes.
yes nice my sleeper is going to be dad naps take those dad naps make sure you take little cat naps all throughout the day uh just turn on the tv turn on anything and you'll probably fall asleep almost instantly and remember don't wake daddy you know what i i missed the masters this year and i haven't caught up since that was that was the day that i stayed on schedule for the rest of your with my naps Speaking of which, Double't wake daddy. You know what? I missed the Masters this year and I haven't caught up since.

That was the day that I stayed on schedule

for the rest of the year with my Masters.

Speaking of which,

Double Masters this year.

Yeah, Double Masters and speaking of which,

thank you for bringing that up.

You will catch up this weekend.

It is Daylight Savings,

so make sure you change those clocks

on Saturday night.

Do not make that mistake.

Otherwise, you might show up late.

Forward, please. Please do it.
hi i'm uh john thurston um i'm a father of four hey john my stardom is getting kicked out of your son's pop warner games because that is uh you know you get a little too riled up on the sideline yell at your son's offensive coordinator tell him he sucks and you should give me my son the ball more you know, you get a little too riled up on the sideline, yell at your son's offensive coordinator, tell him that he sucks and he should give me my son the ball more. You know, you started over him in high school.
He should be listening to you. Exactly.
My sit-em is power tools. Power tools are dangerous.
You should make your kids build things with their hands and use their youthful vigor while they can. And it really builds character.
Plus, they're dangerous. My sleeper is Kirk Cousins because he's a guy that goes to church every Sunday.
So this Sunday. He's a great guy.
Great guy. This Sunday.
Looks just like you, John Thurston. He's going to get his time.
Yeah. He's your dad.
He's my dad. He's your dad.
Anyway, make sure to tell your kids about R. Kelly, because he's a very bad man.

And sometimes... Did you Google it?

Yes, I Googled it.

You Googled it after Wednesday's show?

Yep.

Good job, Billy.

Don't listen to his music.

Maybe that one out.

A little late.

Really bad.

That's okay.

Yeah, we told you.

Really bad.

We told you it was really bad.

R. Kelly Awareness.

It was really bad.

Really bad.

We are the premier R. Kelly Awareness podcast.

Yes.

We're just like three years too late. It's so messed up.
I don't recall Bill Simmons ever disavowing R. Kelly, do you? Better late than never.
That's what we say when it comes to R. Kelly Awareness.
Yep. Right? We're educating the youth one intern at a time.
Well, there's probably someone who slept through the entire year of 2018. Yeah, because R.
Kelly drugged them. And they're just waking up, and now they're listening to this show.
They're like, he did what? Yep. Here we go.
What a shitty year. That would be an awful timing if you slept all the way through 2018, which was objectively a pretty kick-ass year.
Was it? And then you probably – it wasn't this year. It wasn't 2020.
I'm a 2016 guy. Can't wait for 2020 to end.
All of our problems are going to go away. January 1st, 2021.
New beginnings. All right, let's get to our interviews.
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Okay, so thank you to Pepsi, made for football watching. Okay, here he is, Warren Sharp.
Okay, we now welcome on our good friend warren sharp you can find him on twitter he's got a podcast now what's the name of the podcast sharp report uh sharp angles podcast i'm also on the ringer ringer podcast stuff and uh i'm also doing some stuff for mbc now do you really like outside of the fact that you're good at your job like having the last name sharp the possibilities are endless for you know i mean wait is your is that a hollywood thing are you like did you change your name to sharp did you change your name to sharp no luckily no how did that work man that's crazy all right uh i don't know why we got we started that way about great white the great white sharp oh i like that like that. Yeah.
That's good. That's good.
All right, you could have done that. All right, so Warren is here.
We're four games into the NFL season. We thought it would be a great time to catch up.
We did a little preview before the season started, so let's catch up. Where should we start? You know what? Can we actually just start with the Bears, and can you just me uh that everything's going to be okay now we're going to run this on friday after thursday night so just want that disclaimer so that if things don't look okay you don't look dumb but what is their problem and is it fixable it is 100 fixable look their defense is fine i don't have a problem with.
Let's talk about the offense. Specifically, let's talk about this change to Nick Foles.
I know that Nick Foles, you know, I know you were defending Mitchell Trubisky, and I don't know what your take was on Nick Foles coming. But obviously, our expectations were that Nick Foles was going to be a better performing quarterback than Mitchell Trubisky.
That's why they went out and got him in the first place. And my thought was, had we had a full off season, he may have been the week one starter.
I know your position was it's easy to turn to Nick midseason. So regardless, that's what they did.
And they're in a good position here. But they're screwing things up by the way that they're calling plays.
And, you know, I watched the first game, obviously, against the Colts. And some of this stuff is pretty shocking and mind numbing.
So first of all, let's think about this. On early down, so we're talking first and second down in the first half of games, when Mitchell Trubisky was the quarterback for the first three games, they were basically 50-50, run, pass, split.
They were just 50-50, flip a coin. That's what they would do on early downs.
Now, most teams are going to pass the ball a little bit more because it's more efficient to do, but they weren't. Now you get Nick Foles in here and you're going up against the number five best run defense in the league in terms of the Indianapolis Colts.
You would think that you have confidence in Nick Foles. You're going to be passing the ball more, but what they ended up doing was going as close to a 50-50 split as possible without landing on 50-50.
If they had called one more run play, they would have been at 50-50 split. So they almost did the same exact stuff that they did with Mitchell Trubisky, but the results were dramatically different.
When they were passing the ball, they were averaging 8.9 yards per attempt. When they ran the ball, they were down at 1.5 yards per carry, which is the lowest in the NFL.
And yet they're still running the ball 50% of the time, basically, against that Colts in the first half. So they absolutely have to shift to a more pass-heavy approach.
When they stay conservative like they've been doing, running the ball too much, especially against a good run defense, it puts Nick Foles in these obvious third and pass situations, which are not beneficial to him. And then the last point, and you maybe noticed this during that game, was this methodical, plodding, slow-paced offense.
They were the slowest offense of any team in the NFL in week four. They averaged over 33 seconds between snaps in the first half of the game.
It allowed Nick Foles to get into zero rhythm whatsoever offensively. If it's not working by going slow, change things up, Matt Nagy.
Go fast for a series or two. See if that's going to jumpstart this passing attack a little bit.
So they really need to improve their performance from both a play calling standpoint, from a play sequencing standpoint, and just from a play rate standpoint. And I think they will get a higher ceiling out of Nick Foles in this offense.
So one follow-up question. This doesn't have to be specifically about the Bears, but when it comes to running the football and the run pass split that you you talked about and let's say a team is not running the ball well but they keep running it do you think uh you know from an analytical standpoint you're probably saying stop running the ball if you're only running it for a yard a pop but from like the human element it, I do think there's a benefit when you have your offensive lineman be able to run block versus pass block.
You can't expect your offensive lineman to pass block for the entire game and go backwards the entire game. I think that kind of takes the strength away from them, and they slowly but surely will like, you know, it just sucks going backwards all game like that.
So do you think there's any human element of that we're committing to the run even if it doesn't work helps your offensive linemen stay engaged be able to move forward every now and then instead of constantly going back and pass protection well I don't I don't think committing to the run is the right way to do it I definitely don't think teams they're bad at running the ball, should commit to the run. I don't think very many teams in general should.
But in terms of using enough of a balance to keep the linemen engaged, I think is what you're getting to. I still think, look, if we just look at the pure numbers here, league-wide this year on first downs in the first half of games.
So this is what our offensive coordinator

can control here. Passes are averaging 8.3 yards per attempt and runs are only averaging 4.4 yards per carry.
So we're almost, but not quite double the average yardage on pass plays. I think the better strategy is, and I've seen some coaches around the league over the years, not specifically this year I haven't read a lot about it but teaching offensive linemen to be engaging and aggressive with their pass protection so to still be attacking even though they're using pass pro techniques even though they're dropping back to pass protect you have to attack when you're doing that because you are right there is a human element where these linemen don't want to just keep being on their heels getting beat by the pass rushers you want to try to attack those guys and I think there's a balance you don't want to be 100% pass but I would not advise if you're struggling to run the ball the answer is not run the ball more to get these guys more engaged the answer is teach these guys to pass protect with aggression and take joy in trying to get some, some, some pancake blocks and some other things like that when the time is right.
I'm looking at this graphic because I've seen it pulled up a few times this season. And it's something that you talk about a lot.
We've talked about a lot with you the neutral situation pass rates, right? So in other words, like how often is a team passing the ball on first down first and second down you know traditionally you see an offense like back in the 80s and 70s run run pass and still to this very day with a lot of offenses they just you know they schedule themselves we're going to run the ball in first down every time pick up two yards run it again pick up another two yards and then try to pass for seven yards on third down which as you pointed out, doesn't really work anymore. But the top five teams are the Seahawks, the Chiefs, the Packers, the Cardinals, and the Bills in passing on first down.
Is it just that simple? Like if you have, all things being equal, a good offense or a decent – let's say like an average offense. is it that simple to improve your output by saying

okay we're going to pass the ball you know 20 percent more often on first down yeah you would you would be surprised so if you look at those numbers and i'm not sure the exact ones that you're looking at but from from the general numbers like if you just look at the first three quarters of the game first down plays the teams that are like the team that's the most pass heavy is in the low 60 percent range and the team that's like the nfl average is around 49 percent pass and so the reality is what i've told coaches before that have uh like play callers that work with coaches that are a little bit more old school run based you know defense first let's control the ball and keep it away from the opponent type philosophy is all you really have to do here is, is throw one more pass out of 10 plays, right? You'll move from 50% up to 60%. You'll move from a league average up to near the top of the league.
And, and if you think about it like that, it's really not that difficult, just out of 10 plays on 10 first downs, just throw one more more pass but it really does make a difference because those passes gain more yards on average and will save you from going into third downs more often so it absolutely can be very beneficial simply by just throwing the ball one more time out of 10 plays the the difference that you get from that and we've seen some teams move even more beyond that, like a team like the Seattle Seahawks moving to a team that was very conservative a couple of years ago, a little bit more neutral last year to now very aggressive. You mentioned top five in terms of pass rate.
Definitely, definitely very beneficial. Keeps the team on schedule, keeps them out of third downs.
And the other thing that I've noticed this year from some teams that I haven't seen as much of it in the past is teams on first down, the way that they're throwing these passes, they're doing it more often. They're throwing more often.
But they're throwing them a little bit shorter so that they ensure that they're catching the ball and gaining yards. They're not going down the field as often on first down.
They're throwing more conservative passes on first down as sort of like extensions of the run game. And by doing so, they're creating a higher floor of what these passes are going to do.
And then in addition to that, what they decide to do on second down is they throw the ball well beyond the sticks. So on second down, instead of the same type of conservative approach, just trying to maintain that, they decide to go beyond the sticks and they're practicing third down avoidance.
We want to be conservative on first down and then we want to skip third down. And they're passing more than they're running and they're structuring their plays in that sense.
it's definitely making dividends out on the field we see how much scoring is up this year so I want to talk about scoring I had another question though about the first four games give me a team give the people a team both ways so a team that their record they're a little worse than what their record says you can't say the Bears And then give me a team that they're better than what their record says. Can we call the teams that are playing above, like ahead of their skis, can we call them fool's gold? Yeah.
I love it when an out just says, who are your fool's gold teams? Yeah, and then give me the team that you're saying, oh, that team's 1-3 or 2-2, but really they're a lot better than that, and it will all kind of even out once the schedule changes. Yeah.
So I think the team, I think a team that's easy to say is better than what the record is, is the Philadelphia Eagles because of how injuries have derailed them and the performance of Carson Wentz thus far in the season. This is definitely when they get their offensive lineman back healthy.
I mean, they're, he played last game without his top three wide receivers. There's not many teams that are going to be able to go into San Francisco.
And we've talked about this on your show before about the circadian rhythm and how difficult it is for an East Coast team to play out on the West Coast in prime time. That home team out on the West Coast has the body clock advantage, particularly in the second half.
And the Eagles were still able to get the job done with no receivers. I mean, he's throwing the ball to guys that literally Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels had no clue who these players were.
They've never read their names before that very night when they had to study up on who is actually going to be out on the field. So I think they're a team that's definitely better than what the record is.
Once they get healthier and once Carson settles into this offense, keep in mind, you know, this coaching staff is sort of evolving. They're adding some new thought processes to that coaching staff from a passing perspective.
So it is going to take a little bit of time and repetition. So I'd say they're better.
I'd say a team that's worse than what the record is. This one to me, at least is pretty easy too.
It's the Tennessee Titans. This is not a team that is undefeated 3-0 in the NFL.
They're a team that barely was able to come back and beat the Denver Broncos, beat the Minnesota Vikings. This is a team that obviously now is being ravaged by some COVID situations.
I don't know what their status is for the next few games. They might not even play this game this week.
And so I don't think that this team is as good as what their record indicates right now. Interesting.
So last time you were on, we talked about field goal luck, which teams have been way too lucky when it comes to making their field goals or having their opponents miss as opposed to the teams that are the other way around that might have some field goal luck turn around a little bit on them in the next quarter of the season? So that's a great question, and I should have been better prepared for that, but I have to take the blame on this one. I can't pull up the answers fast enough for you on that, but I will send you, PFT, a report on that.
Okay, perfect. I will be expecting that report.
A follow-up report. Also, do you have a landline? I do have a landline, yes.
That is a power move. Like I heard the phone ringing.
You know that that guy does business if he's getting calls on an old school landline. Yes.
I have multiple cell phones plus a landline. Oh, damn.
Nice flex. Selling drugs.
Let's talk about the overs. The overs.

There's a theory that it's a lot less holding calls, which makes sense. I think the lack of holding calls on offense have accounted for a point a game.
What else is going on, and when can we expect it to kind of turn back on us? which it actually kind of already has because I think the overs on kickoff,

the kickoff, like the line at the kickoff have gone 0-7 in the last seven games played. So the afternoon slate and then the two Monday games.
So definitely exactly like we discussed before, thinking that there would be overs. The most overs that have hit in the last 30 years, at least, could have been before that, but I don't have the data back prior to that.
So we are at an all time high with overs. And you're right, the big talk of the town, everybody's just been talking about the penalties.
But the reality is, most of the reason why we're seeing higher point production is on account of a handful of teams that are doing things way more efficiently and getting better production, like a team like the Buffalo Bills, like a team like the Seattle Seahawks, like a team like the Green Bay Packers, who have definitely come out the gates, you know, just on fire and now I believe are on a bye week. But then you also have this fourth down aggression, and we're seeing way more teams go for it on fourth down.
And from a betting perspective, it makes a lot of sense because BKAT, PFT, if you guys are betting on these games like I am, you know that when a team decides to go for it on fourth down, it almost always is beneficial to you because what they're not doing is punting the ball. And so if a team is at midfield and decides to punt the ball, generally speaking, you're pinning the other team back.

Whereas regardless of what happens on that fourth down play, somebody is getting the ball probably close to midfield, which is a lot for less distance to travel to score points, regardless of whether it's a converted fourth down or not. So you want teams to go for it on fourth down and make it.
The only downside is, you know, if they're within field goal range, you decide to bypass that and they get nothing on that play. But most of the time going for it on fourth down absolutely results in more points.
And we're seeing a lot more teams going for it on fourth down and converting those, especially on fourth and one, the conversion rate is off the chain right now. So that's why we're seeing more points.
To your question, though, about whether or not we're going to continue seeing games go over the total, that's an even more interesting discussion. So as you know, I have a computer model that helps generate what my point totals should be on these games.
And then I look to see if there's any value. And that's where I make my wagers, where I do see enough of a value.
And when week four's lines came out, I saw a ton of value in betting some overs. So we went and we pasted the board on Monday morning at like 10 a.m.
We banged five games overs and we moved the number between two to three points on almost all of those games. And four of the games, we moved it.
And one of the game, it really didn't move that move that much and that happened to be the game that we lost we ended up going four and one on those games so i'm thinking you know we got great closing line value which means and this is something every sports better should strive to do is time when you're placing your bets so that you can ensure that you get a better number than the line closes at and and that's a good way to measure am i I on the right side of this bet? Did I do a smart thing? So we got great closing line value, 2.1 points per game on average, which is very difficult to do in the NFL. And we ended up having a good result.
We went four and one. So sitting here Sunday night after week four, so just a few days ago thinking, okay, what games are these odds makers? What are they going to set their total at? We might do the same type of thing again.
I looked at the board on Monday and compared it to what my numbers were Sunday night into Monday. And I saw very little value to overs this week, which means the odds makers intelligently sat here and listened to the entirety of last week, every single person in the media world talking about points being up and games going over the total.
And so they decided to make a very aggressive move this week for and set the lines a lot higher than they did even last week compared to what they should be at. And so there's just not as much value across the board betting overs this week like there were the prior few weeks.
Yeah. spreadsheets take into account the uniforms that the teams are going to be wearing? No, I do not factor that.
Have you found an angle on that? Yes. Color rush uniforms, it feels like it's always an over.
It feels like it. Yeah.
So you might add an extra tab for that. PFT says it feels like an over.
I could have told you that the Bears, if I had known they were wearing the orange uniforms, I would have told all my clients to pound the Colts. I would have.
So that's not a good thing for the Bears wearing the orange. When they wear those oranges, I think they don't do it.
I mean, I have no statistical model to back that up. It's just a gut feel.
It's the eyeball test. They just felt slower in it.
Well, we could get that information to them uh see if they can make some changes when the dolphins wear their all teal that's candy ass and they usually lose that might just be the dolphins lose a lot yeah the dolphins lose a lot

the dolphins lose a lot that's the dolphins the dolphins have a grand you guys know chan gailey

he's a grandfather he's been out of the nfl for years and grandpa gailey is the one calling plays

there and this is a team i don't know if you guys were on the Dolphins last week or not when the Seahawks played them, but they had every right to cover that game at a minimum. And this team goes down there.
They had five trips down inside, I think to the 11, the 11, the 24, the 25, and the 27. and they kick field goals on every single one of those trips on five field goals.
You are not going to beat Russell Wilson doing that. Chan Gailey is using an old school philosophy and an old school book to how to play the NFL.
And Brian Schottenheimer has moved to the new school book. They're going forward on fourth down.
They're aggressively throwing the ball down the field. And so a team that's playing like that, you're not going to beat them playing conservatively and kicking these field goals.
You have to try to change your stripes a little bit. And I'm not sure if Grandpa Gailey is going to be able to do that.
Yeah, they need to go to Tua anyway. What about turnover luck? Have you been monitoring that? I have been monitoring it.
Again, it's going to have to be a report because I don't have to take that offline. Just offline.
Just that it's real. We'll take that answer offline.
Turnover luck is real, right? It's 100%. Turnover luck is 100% real.
It's primarily fumble luck is definitely a key factor because when that ball is out, there's an expectation that one side of the ball is going to recover it slightly more than the other. But you definitely have certain teams based upon where the turnover is and how many guys they happen to have around the ball that just fall on it more often and those things tend to regress to the mean across the board yeah and also just in like returning turnovers i remember like the bears i think it was like eight years ago they started seven and one i want to say and it was every game they returned a pick six or a fumble score and everyone's like i don't think this think this can last.
And of course it didn't. And everything fell apart because as soon as you don't get those points, it doesn't look the same.
Yeah, that was the peanut punch was in that era, I think. And they absolutely were doing a great job with that.
And this is one of the things we've talked about on your show before. I would absolutely be coaching my team, especially on defense.
When we get that takeaway, you have to try to figure out a way to block those offensive players. You got 300 plus pound offensive linemen, only a couple fast guys on the football field at that point.
We need to be scoring these plays. It's the easiest time to score points in the entire game.
And so that's just a paramount importance. The Bears definitely practiced that in those with with uh your middle linebacker was named number 50 brian urlacher and and and other to and lance briggs i mean that was just some great of those guys yeah yeah exactly and so they were definitely doing that there are certain guys though where the turnover luck eventually just becomes turnover habit like you know we joke around about tyron matthew and say no oh that guy's always around the football.
He's got a nose for the football. He actually kind of does.
He's a ball hawk. Yeah, just saying somebody's a ball hawk, sometimes you're saying that about a player that had a great season where they got, you know, six, seven interceptions and they'll never have that again.
With Matthew, it's like, he just, he always is where the ball bounces. I don't know what it is about him, but he does have like like a sixth sense I don't know if it's even possible to quantify but there's surely there has to be like some element of skill to always be around the ball all the time well people that tend to watch a lot of film understand the habits that the other team is going to use so defenders that seem to be around the ball a lot are defenders that typically have watched a lot of film and understand where the ball is going to come.
And then on that interception where Edelman tipped it in the Monday night game, you could definitely see like if he just lowered his head and went for a tackle, he doesn't get the ball. But he understands like this is just a swing pass.
It's not going to gain very many yards anyways. Let me just play back a little bit and see what happens here.
And sure enough edelman has the highest drop rate in the nfl over the last couple of years so he probably knew that and he just knew that the outcome of the play if he ran in for a tackle is not really going to minimize the yards any more than if he just stood there and lets him gain extra yard it's not gonna it's not a play that's going to be very productive and he made the smart read on it so uh So Tyron Matthew is super smart. Yeah.
I've got kind of an open-ended question here, but I think it's very important. It's one that a lot of people are asking.
So I'm just going to let you cook on it. The Dallas Cowboys, what the fuck? Yeah.
Look, I know that everybody is mad at Mike Nolan, and Mike Nolan certainly potentially got that job just as a favor. And, you know, you could read into those innuendos if you want to.
They were not playing very well. They aren't playing aggressively.
They do not appear to be trying hard on that side of the football. It's a defensive thing more than it's an offensive thing.
Now, that being said, the offense is out of rhythm. We saw against Atlanta, one of the reasons why we thought they were a little bit out of rhythm was because, well, they were trying all these fake punts and they were trying these really aggressive strategies and that led to some easy points from the Atlanta Falcons and gave up their opportunity to score points when they're making plays like that.
So maybe that's not really the issue. Maybe the issue is just this decision-making from the coaching staff.
But as we come to find, it's going to take a little bit more work from Mike McCarthy to figure out how to control this offense. And look, the guy openly lied on his job application to Jerry Jones.
He completely admitted to the fact, he goes in and says, I watched every play. I watched the film.
I studied the analytics in the off season. Then his opening press conference, he comes back and says, by the way, I lied about all of that.
I just wanted to get the job coaching the Cowboys. So that's a very bad start.
And now we're seeing that maybe this guy was just chilling, uh, you know, sipping daiquiris down somewhere and not really paying close attention to what he needed to. I think they're going to get back on track.
One of the biggest issues is going to be their schedule gets a lot easier. They've played some ridiculously difficult offenses so far this season, which makes any defense look bad.
And they've had injuries along the offensive line. They've had some players missing on the defensive side of the football.
So I'm not sitting here with this team having a bad record right now, being in second place in the NFC East and selling them and writing them off right now. I still think they're going to be able to get things back on track, but they absolutely must get better effort from their defensive players.
They've got to get better strategies on that side of the ball and offensively. So the Washington football team pulling the plug on Dwayne Hass haskins kind of bizarre because they're also like i saw that he wasn't even taking snaps two-part question one was it too early to pull the plug on dwayne haskins from what you saw and two what is generally speaking there's no obviously rule of thumb here but what is generally speaking the way you analyze quarterbacks like like how many games do you need to see out of them before you can be like, all right, this is what this guy is.
I know what he is. It's going to be about this and we can make a decision based off that.
Yeah. And that second question is very important because that's the thing that Scott Turner and Ron Rivera were not able to see from Haskins because they had no preseason work with the guys.
So it's one thing seeing him in practice throwing passes against air, but it's another thing actually seeing him there in the games. And I think the bigger issue for Dwayne Haskins is simply, was he responding to the coaching? Because these guys have no allegiance to Dwayne Haskins.
They didn't draft him. They want to build a winning program.
And more importantly than just getting wins out on the football field, you know from how Ron Rivera wants to build a culture there. It's about doing what the coaches are asking you to do and having some accountability to that.
And from what I'm seeing and hearing, Dwayne Haskins was not able to respond to the coaching. Like they were asking him to make reads in a certain manner.
They were asking him to get the ball out to these places. They were asking him to keep his eyes down the field.
There's a lot of different things that they're asking him to do that week after week he was failing to do in the games. And at some point they're like, I don't know if this guy's ever going to quote unquote, get it.
Like, is this guy going to get it? Can he respond to what we're asking him to do? I think that's more important than his actual execution. Because if you look at that game against the Baltimore Ravens, I mean, he throws for over 300 yards.
And actually there's an interesting story behind that game. Like without getting too detailed, like there was an impression and expectation that there was a good chance he's going to get benched at halftime.
And so there are a lot of props that you can bet on a quarterback. And so you can bet under completions and under passing attempts and under yards and under touchdowns and every which way you can bet Dwayne Haskins unders, especially good props if you think he could get benched, right? Sat down at halftime.
And so a lot of those props are being bet towards the under. And he looks like crap in the first half.
His first four drives are punt, turnover, punt, missed field goal. Now the turnover wasn't his fault, but regardless, they have zero points on the board.

They're losing 14 to nothing.

And they've got one more drive left in that half.

And I'm fully convinced that if he does not go down the field,

75 yards and score a touchdown, which he ends up doing,

he ends up getting benched at halftime

and all those props cash.

But he goes down the field, scores that touchdown,

gets to play the rest of the game,

ends up going over on all of his props, and the team decides to pull the plug the next week. Yeah.
How does it make sense that Ron Rivera is going to have this short of a leash on Dwayne Haskins, but the Washington football team did not make an effort to bring Cam Newton up there? I guess they had to feel like Cam wasn't fully healthy. That could be my only expectation.
If they thought that Cam wasn't fully healthy or the only other thought process that they could have is they didn't want to rebuild from the ground up with a guy like Cam there. Maybe they viewed Cam, oh, he could be healthy for this year, right? But how's that going to work with Dwayne Hkins who's already on our roster we don't know if we like haskins or not we have to play him in order to see that will cam be and this is one thing i don't necessarily love about some teams and and i'm not inside building so i don't know maybe this is a real thing but the thought process of like a really good quarterback is going to mess up the locker room chemistry.
If we're going to sign him with the impression and he knows that, that he's not going to be starting and he may get a shot, but it's not going to be now. Like, how could that still not work? How could we not find a world in which Cam wouldn't screw up the chemistry of that locker room? But I mean, for whatever reason, they just felt like him being there was not going to be conducive to finding out what they had in Dwayne Haskins.
And they were optimistic that Dwayne Haskins could be something. I'm pretty confident that if they knew that Haskins was nowhere near close to being the start of this franchise, there would have been a bigger emphasis on bringing Cam in.
But I do think that there is a school of thought that Cam, you might get a year or two or three out of Cam, but the injuries and the way he plays football might compound upon one another. So that's, he's not your long-term answer at quarterback.
And if they don't end up liking Haskins, they're fine with losing games. The roster is not great overall.
They want to get that number one overall quarterback. And what we've seen in New England, like Cam can come in and win games.
Yeah. So I find, I find the cam revisionist history.
So fucking lazy though, because people are forgetting one, he was injured to were in a pandemic. So you can't have, you know, like you can't bring them into the facility.
Yeah, you could probably have a doctor go look at him,

but you know how paranoid and weird NFL teams are.

They have to have their doctor look at someone.

And three, I think Cam, and rightfully so by Cam's defense,

is he wasn't going to go and compete for a job.

I don't think he was ever competing against Jared Stidham.

I think that was Belichick ruse, but he wasn't going to go.

If the Washington football team said, hey, Cam, you can come.

We're not going totally give up on Dwayne Haskins yet so you have to compete for a job Cam was like I'm an MVP I'm not competing for a job same with Chicago like Cam had a right to say that so this revisionist history that all these teams passed on Cam I just don't buy it I think Cam probably was like, I'm a starter. I'll go somewhere and prove it, but I'm not going to go compete against someone and not be guaranteed a starting job.
I think it's a little bit different. I do think that you can't say that about like 32 teams, obviously.
But with Ron Rivera and bringing up the entire offensive coaching staff, I think that if they would know more than anybody else what Cam was like, what his present condition if they didn't bring him in I totally got that I didn't want to bring Cam to DC for just those reasons that we talked about which was you know like he might still be hurt or you don't want to undermine a young quarterback I get that but it just seems like if that if that was your long play in DC to see what we have in Haskins you know going three and a half games or four games doesn't really give you the body of evidence to know whether or not he's the guy for the future. Well, they couldn't see him, though.
There's no preseason. There's no training camp.
I'm saying four weeks is a very short amount of time to give him. If their whole plan was to say, we're going to see if Dwayne Haskins is good we don't want to risk bringing somebody else in to undermine him now if it's like the uh 49ers or a team like that I understand not bringing Cam Newton if it's a team that has like anywhere close to an established quarterback I get I get why he wouldn't and it is lazy to be like well you know all 32 teams passed on Cam and let Belichick get him that's not the case but I think that there is just based on Rivera and Turner and the offensive coaching staff with DC, it just seems a little weird how this whole thing is shaken out.
Weren't Rivera and Cam not like on the best terms though at the end? They weren't like best friends. I don't know specifically.
I think I did see some things about that, you know, and he obviously wishes him well at the end. But I think back to PFT's point on this, I do think that the reason ultimately why they are sitting Haskins down is not just that he's not winning games for them.
It's that he's not responding to the teaching and the coaching. Like he's not doing what they're asking him to do.
And I don't know that it's like an example being set of him, but I think it's more so that we can't allow this to continue. If this guy's not doing what we asked him and we tried to work with him over and over and over again, let's, and the other thing I'm hearing is that they think that there's a shot to win the NFC East because it's such a bad division that they want to see what this other guy is going to be able to do, Josh Allen, if he's going to be able to come in here and do anything so I don't think he's going to yeah see that to me means that I I can't begrudge Ron Rivera here because he had no idea with in a normal world if he had OTAs if he had you know training camp he probably would have known this like a long time ago that that Dwayne Haskins doesn't look the way he wants him to look.
And he doesn't respond to the coach in the way he wants, but this is, they probably went in with great intentions and they just didn't work. I don't disagree with that.
I think they really wanted Dwayne Haskins to work out. That would have been in their best interest.
They've got a franchise quarterback. He's going to be able to win games for them.
They're probably not going to make the playoffs this year. The NFC East has the Cowboys and the Eagles.
Those are teams that are going to be very good, but at least they've got the stepping stones for building a franchise here in D.C. And obviously, you know, we see that Dwayne Haskins may not be the guy for them.
So based on what you've seen so far from Dwayne Haskins, and I think that's probably right, because if there was like, if they thought that he was not the guy, they probably would have at least considered trying to trade down or drafting Tua back in the NFL draft. But based on what you've seen from Dwayne Haskins, can you just tell me is he, should I move on? Just mentally, I need to know, because I'm scarred from the Jason Campbell experience where it was like, just give him one more year.
He's showing signs of progression. I'm scarred from that.
I got PTSD from Jason Campbell. Should I just rip the Band-Aid off and say, Dwayne's not the guy? I think that it's going to take a lot for Dwayne the rest of the season to get back to the point where you could say he is the guy.
So I think for right now, for your own mental health, you should assume he's not the guy and move forward and don't pay him another thought. Don't waste your time or your stress on him.
And then if he reappears and he's playing much better, then you can start maybe trying to fall back in love with him. There you go.
I'm going to eternal sunshine of the spotless mind myself. I'm going to remove that part of all Dwayne Haskins' knowledge.
And then if I get reintroduced to him, I might be like, Oh, who's this guy? I really like this guy. So, okay.
Thank you for saying that. That's, that's very good for me.
All right. So I had one last question, Warren.
Um, the, since we're going to run this on Friday, can you give us maybe a quick breakdown of Sunday night football, uh, from a gambling perspective for the people? Yeah. So Sunday night football, um, right now the Seahawks are favored by seven points.
Total is 57.5, so we'll see if those lines are still there. The Seattle Seahawks offense is one of the most productive in the NFL, but nobody really is paying close enough attention to the Minnesota Vikings offense, which is quietly doing significantly better because they've got Justin Jefferson involved in that passing game.
I have no idea why they decided not to incorporate him early enough into weeks one and two, but this is actually a team I use an early non-success rate metric is one of my favorite metrics to use. And the Minnesota Vikings offense actually ranks number one in that metric, which is essentially revolving around bypassing third downs.
And one of the reasons is it's in part like because they've been losing in these games. So they've had to turn it on a little bit quicker, but they're actually having a lot of success throwing the ball down the field.
I think Seattle heading into a bye next week. So they play this week, then they have a bye.
I'm curious to know how many of their defensive players are actually going to try to rush back for this game. And then they're going to be on a bye next week.
I think just like we saw in Green Bay with Devante Adams, you may see some of these guys just sat down to be determined. And that will help the Vikings offense even further.
But the bigger question that I have for the Vikings offense, we can say everything golden about them that we want to. We've got Kirk Cousins not playing at 1 p.m.
here. And that's the biggest storyline is this primetime issue with Kirk Cousins and how he struggles tremendously.
Will he be productive in this spot? We know that there's not going to be any crowd noise. We know that there won't be any fans.
Was he just scared of the fans? Was he getting concerned because people were booing him or yelling at him and he'll play better without fans? Or was it simply the fact that he's such a creature of habit, as we've heard him say before, that any game that's not at 1 p.m., it throws off his daily routine and he can't figure out how to operate in this change time condition so hopefully it's not the latter and he actually plays a good game here but which would be equally as funny because he gets so scared it's like a guy shooting a free throw in a high school gym you guys have both probably done that and you're at a road game and you're playing high school ball and the crowd's getting on your case you just kind of tense up maybe you guys have ice in your veins, but you know, that Kirk cousins might be that type of quarterback. So but, but I think that the Seahawks offense, there's clear advantages for them to push the ball down the field, super high total right now.
And we'll have to see if there's going to be some rain involved, but I think we got two defenses that can be taken advantage of here. And if you look at that Miami-Seattle game from last week, the one thing you should take away is five trips within field goal range, five field goals for the Seahawks.
Sorry, for the Dolphins. Grandpa Gailey settled for those.
Will the Minnesota Vikings offense be a lot more aggressive in those spots? Go for it on fourth down. Try to punch it into the end zone.
If they stay with a more aggressive game plan, it's going to be hard to see this game really petering out and not being entertaining unless it's entirely hinged upon. Kirk Cousins can't play any time other than 1 p.m.
You mentioned the rain real quick. I've always heard, and maybe this is just from Big Cat, because we talk about the rain versus the snow versus the wind, that the affects the point total more more so than anything else what about the rain what does rain do rain can be a definite factor from two different perspectives number one

light drizzle really not an issue light drizzle the surface of the field sometimes gets a little

bit slick which can actually help players and and and that know where they're running yeah cut and

then the defenders fall right but the two areas that it a bigger question mark is, if you have heavier rain, that definitely makes it more difficult. And I think it actually, nobody talks about this, but I think it actually impacts certain quarterbacks differently than others, not just from a hand size perspective and their ability to throw the ball, but how accurate they are with passes.
Because as you guys know, if you're playing in the rain and you're trying to reach up and extend yourself, you can't really make one handed catches or these big extension catches in the rain. But if you have a quarterback, he's thrown it on target right between the numbers.
Those balls are easier to catch in the rain. So it could hurt certain quarterbacks more than others.
Go back and look up some of the splits from Russell Wilson in the rain. It's not going to be pretty what he typically has done in the rain, which is shocking actually, because he's a good quarterback and his hands are actually, I think, a decent size.
But in the rain, he hasn't played as well. And the other thing that this factors into is the coaching philosophy, because some coaches end up instantly, we see some rain out on the field and we're like, okay, this is going to be a tough game.
We're going to have to grind it out. Maybe more run plays on early downs.
Let's be careful. Points are going to be at a premium.
So they enter the game with that sort of philosophy. And it just leads to lower points across the board because coaching matters tremendously from the result of a game.
And if you got a couple of coaches or even one who's like, we're going to play more conservatively than we normally do. We don't want to pass the ball as much.
We want to run the ball more. We're okay with punting the ball.
We just don't want to turn it over. Like that will tremendously kill a total, especially one that's at 57 and a half.
Yeah. Really, really high.
All right. Well, Warren, thank you you as always uh at sharp football on twitter you can listen to his podcast you can find him uh sharp football analysis.com sharp football stats.com be a smarter football fan with warren sharp uh you owe us a kicking report two reports and what's the other uh the the field goal luck turnover turnover luck all

right turnover luck and field goal luck i'll get those reports to you by the end of the day no you can do it friday tweet it out friday when we when we post the show okay i'll tweet up eow it out friday i'll tweet out friday and also since your bears are three and one i don't know when we're going to have another great record hopefully it's soon and they're going to do even better things but we'll give 31% off anything.

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I know about you.

Yeah, I'm a watcher of Real Housewives.

But we'll also give you some tips on podcasts.

And we've been doing it for a while.

The number one sports podcast.

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Yeah, not to brag.

I'm Andy Cohen's neighbor.

So if you screw up, I'm going to tell him.

Yeah.

We actually have. Yeah.
Yeah. He He lives just about across the street from me.
Wow, you guys are the number ones. Let me just look at you guys.
I can't really see. Yeah, we're pretty good.
You got long hair. We also had a TV show that got canceled after one episode that was taped out of Embassy Row, right where Andy's stuff is.
Well, let's go. Can I ask can i ask you how do you get canceled after one episode that how how the fuck did you do that well it's not our problem if it's one episode it's on them if it was like three or four episodes then we'd have to take a long look in the mirror yeah we were too risque we're the bad boys of sports television esp and two i like it okay i'm here for this all right we're good to go all right Let's do this.
Let's just leave that in. That was nice.
That was a good intro. Here we go.
Three, two, one. Okay.
We now welcome on a very special guest. It is philanthropist, entrepreneur, author, producer.
You've maybe seen her on television. It is Bethany Frankel.
She also has a new podcast, which is out now, Just Be With Bethany Frankel. Bethany, thank you for joining us.
I'm a huge fan. Exciting to have you on.
We're trying to do range. You know what I mean? We talk a lot of sports.
We have NFL. And then we have Bethany Frankel on to talk about whatever we want to talk about.
I think range is good. I actually think that's smart.
It's true. I mean, listen, let's see if I can hang.
I'm not sure, but we'll see what we got going. So I asked a lot of friends what I should ask you because I don't watch a show.
I've never watched Real Housewives. That's on me.
I'm not saying it's a bad show. I might enjoy it if I sat down and watch it.
It's a very bad show. I'm not on it anymore, but it's not going to raise your IQ any.
So we're good. That's fine.
Yeah, mine can't get any lower to begin with, so I'm good. But people would tell me, like, be careful with her.
She can be mean. She can be feisty.
I went back. I've watched some interviews with you.
I've watched some clips of the show on TV. And I don't think that you're mean.
I think that you're – I think you're very direct., I think you don't care what other people think about you. So my first question is, how do you do that? Because I want that.
It's very liberating. It's sort of like being honest.
You just know that you can just live in that because if you're honest, you never get jammed up. You're cool.
If you don't really care, you know, it's better to be, there's no gray in this life. I mean, so it's black or white.
I'm polarizing and that's okay. It would be worse for me.
It's okay if I'm not liked. It would be bad if I were not trusted.
So that would really bother me. But I'm definitely trusted.
I am absolutely direct. I'm intense.
And I wonder, and I'm not one of these women that talks about like what women don't get and what men get, et cetera. But I actually, more like a man and i wonder if i were a man if they would even say what you just said you know but polarizing would probably be something that people would definitely say i mean i had a big meeting here at my house yesterday with seven guys and they get nervous a little bit i mean you know i can be a little intense you you are intimidating you are intimidating because uh you are extremely extremely successful and you do get what you want I am a fan of the show uh you're not on it anymore like you said but I've watched every episode of Real Housewives of New York I have a reality tv behind the scenes question how many times uh when you were on it would you watch the episode and be like wait that's not how it happened like the edit drives me nuts here it's out of your control did that happen or you know did it happen often what was that um no what happens is they crystallize with a narrative but like a blind date you could go on a blind date with someone for an hour and a half and you come home and you just basically explain like the bottom line.
You're like, she, she shit her pants at the table. She, you know, ordered a lobster and she said something really nice about my hair.
And like, that's what the episode is going to show. So a bunch of other things could have happened on that date, but it's kind of just like a crystallization.
It's just, it's gotten more manufactured over the years. And I think it is different now than it was then.
And I do hear that from many areas of the franchise where when I went on, you didn't even put hair and makeup on. You sort of just winged it.
You didn't have to go over the top to create drama. Just nuance was very dramatic.
And now, you know, someone throws a leg or someone rips a weave out or everybody's got to top each other and it becomes a little more manufactured. People aren't really friends, but they have to sort of produce them as if they're friends.
So it's a very strange dynamic because you're living in this world and these things that you're arguing about are very

important to you within this microcosm but in no other situation of your life would they be important the minute you walk off that show after four months you couldn't give a good fuck about any of these people or what you were talking about but it's what you're doing right there if that makes any sense yeah no that makes sense now what about though uh the trip my favorite part of every season is the trip when it's like things are going too well with the ladies. Let's all go to Mexico, drink a lot of booze and fight for three days.
Did you know that before you would go on the trip every year being like, got to get ready? This shit is going to get wild. Okay, so to give an analogy to sports too, what I was just describing is sort of like I imagine

people who are on a field together who in that moment they're killing each other and resolving things with their teammates or whatever and then opposing you know an opposite to others with a goal and the coach has a goal but like when they get off the field they go home they hang with their kids and they live their life and it's like that's not what they're dealing with they think about it and press is coming out about it and they're like dealing with it but that's that so to answer the next question that does that make sense yes yes absolutely like after the game you're like okay good game like now i'm gonna go and live my life yeah i hate that motherfucker but i don't have to live with them so who cares like or i love that person or whatever in that so but then the trips are designed to put you in a pressure cabin together with everybody to work through and bring up every issue and it's sort of like a drawing room comedy where you'll cut to one room and see these two people talking about that and then one person will come out and tell everybody in the group situation what that person happens and then a little fight starts and so it's like little mini forest fires that with any luck from for production begin a big giant one big fire for the finale of what this thing is and then for the last night they would hope to contain the fire and then they'll still be like remnants of the fire when everybody gets home right so even though you're you could be going to morocco or uh des moines or newark new jersey and it doesn't matter to me certain people on the show that are losers get excited about these vacations to these foreign places when it doesn't matter where you are because it's going to be the most disgusting experience of arguments and toxicity that it wouldn't matter to me like i'd almost rather not be somewhere nice because I don't want to experience Bali in this way, where it's all about conflict and craziness. And you don't even take a call from like your spouse or your boyfriend, like you're in the zone.
You're literally, that's your Superbowl. You're not taking side phone calls.
You're just like making moves, running plays. You know, you're just, this is, you're just, and it's kill or be killed be killed yeah this is just or be killed and that's what they why they design it and it's always before we go on the trip i want to invite you all i think we should all relax but i don't want any drama i don't want any drama you know which is like then there's no drama and the producers are burning the show to the ground.
That's a great answer.

I love it.

I love the behind-the-scenes reality show because it's just so funny how the trip always just gets insane.

I also just love the term pressure cabin.

I think that's what we should call our studio from now on.

The cash-out pressure cabin.

That sounds awesome.

Well, wait.

You guys should film a bunch of you, like, bros that are animals that, like, I don't know if you have girlfriends or wives, but like the way you really act when you're eating beer, I mean eating wings and being gross and like put yourself in a pressure cooker, there will be some fights if it were a certain amount of days. Three, four days and a bunch of sports things going on and maybe bets going.
Something will happen. You described our business.
Our entire business model. Yeah, we literally do that all the time.
I don't eat as much beer as I used to. Actually, I'm going to try doing that.
I'm going to try freezing beer. Bethany is so smart as a businesswoman she invented Barstool Sports just now without realizing it.
So before you became known to America, you were an entrepreneur for a while, but I guess you were introduced to the nation really on Martha Stewart's Apprentice. Is that right? That was my first, yeah.
When you were like preparing to do that or even before you knew that you were going to be on reality television, would you sit around watching reality TV and criticizing the moves that people would make and think of the strategies that you would use if you were to find yourself on that side of the camera? No, and there really wasn't reality TV then. There might have been like the real world years ago, which was different.
But the apprentice was pretty innovative. That's the first time I'd ever heard of anything like that.
And this wasn't the celebrity apprentice. This was the Bill Rancic go sell lemonade apprentice.
And then I was on the Martha Stewart version. So again, it had the sensibility of the first round of Housewives for me where it was was just so authentic and so real.
And it was like young kids, like striving for a dream, just panic stricken. They'd never seen a camera and were sleeping in a place where we didn't have phones or television or newspapers for months.
No walls where we slept all light. If you went to the bathroom, they were following you like just another pressure cooker.
So it was like real intense business competition.

Now other shows,

whether it's Big Brother

or whatever shows they have,

they're all derivative.

You know, it's hard to keep recreating that.

So the answer is absolutely not.

And certainly for Housewives

because it was not called Housewives.

It was called Manhattan Moms.

I wasn't even a mom.

And I was like this question mark sort of Carrie Bradshaw character that no one knew what was going to happen with me. So it was so natural.
And that's sort of how I like to do things. That's why I never liked to do something that's been done before.
So my new show, The Big Shot with Bethany, which is a much more modern and realistic version of The Apprentice, is unlike any other show before. And I need everything I do to be like that.
I had never listened to a podcast in my entire life. I still haven't until in my life until I did mine, not to be selfish to the genre.
It's just that I didn't want to know anything. I want to do it like my own.
I want to do my own way and be fresh and just say, fuck it. So about your podcast, just be with Bethany Frankel.
So you never listened to a podcast. Do you know how to find a podcast? No, I've never subscribed to a podcast.
No, and a lot of my listeners who I've brought in, which I liken to HSN. HSN has me on a lot because not only do I sell well, but I bring in a new audience.
So I've brought in a lot of new people to podcasts overall, like a ridiculous number of people that have never done it. You're welcome.
Thank you're welcome no money in our pocket yeah hell yeah he's going to listen to this show and she's gonna like be like these two guys are the funniest fuckers ever subscribe yeah i like you guys i like you too oh i like that good vibes always a good thing so who uh like guests that you're gonna I like you too. You guys have good vibes.
Ooh, I like that. Good vibes is always a good thing.
So who, like, guests that you're going to have on, dream guests, what's the direction of the podcast? When is this airing? Because I don't know if I'm allowed to say. So I have had Mark Cuban.
I've had Andy Cohen and Paris Hilton and Maria Shriver and Ryan Murphy. And I think we booked Sharapova.
And I booked Pharrell, if I'm allowed to say it and Chris Henchy and a lot of pretty sick people but I just booked somebody that's like mind blown crazy to say A-list would be like belittling like we're all like holy fucking shit like the big so I can't say that now I don't think Andy Reid Leo DiCaprio I wouldn't I mean, respectfully, I don't say that now, I don't think. Andy Reid.
Leo DiCaprio. I wouldn't even, I mean, respectfully, I don't know if Leo's built an actual business.
Like, I would have him maybe, but all these people have to, Dana White, we had UFC. Oh, yeah, Dana White.
You have to have been, yeah, he's extraordinary, so I would book him. Extraordinary, visionary, mogul, game changer, started from the bottom, now we're here.
It's not really just about fame. So yes, I would book Leonardo DiCaprio, obviously.
But no, respectfully to Leonardo DiCaprio, much more insane than him. Cardi B.
Ooh. No.
She's built a business, and that would be very great. We'd be very excited.
Like Pharre this is better third chance jay-z eric trump

no but jay-z jay-z's a big jay-z's bucket list of this jay's because he is a mogul and a business person and so is dr dre but no but i'll let you know next week after we film it okay we actually just got texted the answer but we're not gonna say it because we respect you is that true yeah we did we got respected we just yeah uh our pr person knows but we're not going to say it because we respect you. Is that true? Yeah.
Yeah, we did. We got respected.

We just, yeah.

Our PR person knows, but we're, we like you so much.

We're not going to say it, but good get.

That's pretty cool, right?

She's great.

Yeah.

Good job.

And that's my game changer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll keep it in.

We'll say who it is.

Nice.

Nice.

All right.

So that's great.

So, so everyone should subscribe. Thank you for bringing more people to the podcast world.
Just be with Bethany Frankel. I have a couple other quick questions about Real Housewives.
I don't know if you want to answer all these, but it's ridiculous that she still goes by the Countess, right? Yes, but, you know, what the hell is a countess anyway to begin with what like

what like megan markle was a was it was a was a briefcase girl and she's now a duchess because

she married into it so forever she'll be but now she's not a duchess like who gives a good

so i'm you know what i mean i'm a fairy princess i'm the fairy princess now and forever you call

me the fairy princess it doesn't even matter no it just I mean, for people who don't watch the show, Countess Luanne de la Sepse, so she married French royalty? I don't even know. Some made-up title? I don't know either.
A guy who was a count. And I don't know.
They give out titles a lot, I think. It's just, I don't know what any of that stuff means.
You know what I mean mean? Like what it all means. It's like a socialite thing to me.
Who cares? Right. And so, yeah, in the first ever season, Bethany called Luann by her name, Luann, and Luann pulled her aside and was like, when we're in public, please say countess.
Countess. Yes.
And then she's been divorced from the count for a long time but still goes by the countess. I can can kind of understand that, because how many Countesses do you meet? You know, like, that's a title that, it just, it sounds like you're evil.
I don't know, I think you lose it when you're not married to the Count anymore. I agree that you probably have to give it up, but if you are currently married, I can see the leading.
You have to wrestle the new Countess. You should have to wear, like, a big cloak, like black cloak everywhere you go and wear dark makeup.
Or be the reality star formerly known as Countess and go like the Prince Root. Yes, yes.
Okay, so that was one. And the other one was, what's worse, not inviting someone to your party or not showing up to a party that you were invited to? Because I like 80 of the fights on real housewives is essentially like you didn't invite me to your birthday party or i invited you my birthday party and you didn't show and that's really the genesis of most fights you're the greatest okay that i say this all but it's let me go a little deeper it's these are people that can't stand each other.
You know, can't, can't stand each other. So a,

I'm very big on both i'm very big on not inviting and i'm very big on not wanting to be invited okay that said the people around me you know and i would have thought you know you didn't support me yes you didn't you didn't support you didn't come and support me and i supported you and i came to your thing it's like i don't want you at my thing and i don't want to be at your thing and that was one of the reasons i had to leave the show in my mind a very small reason there's a much bigger picture but like i don't want to go to things that i don't with these people that i don't want to go to i would never go to these things for these people if i weren't on the show having to be with these people yes the the the support in the Real Housewives world is quite literally showing up to a party in the Hamptons drinking a flute of champagne and eating like a stuffed mushroom that's support but a fake event that was from a business that's not real unless you have the show right there's a show so you created the business to have content on the show and the people that you become friends with on the show have to come to support you in that business that and that event that wouldn't happen unless the show helped coordinate it so if i support it's just show up so that other people can see you at my fake event and then they'll think that my fake business is good because my fake friend was here yeah and it's a great just a great low-hanging fruit argument on a reality show. Yeah.
You didn't support me. It's a great low-hanging fruit argument.
Like, she didn't come, and she told you that she was with her daughter sick, but I saw her at the Olive Garden downing breadsticks. Right, right.
And I have the receipt to prove it. I have a photo of her at the Olive Garden downing breadsticks.
The next scene is, you know, the producer saying, go tell, you know, Chanel that, you know, you've got the receipts and you know that she was at the Olive Garden because, you know, they were had a drought on fucking salad dressing.

Right. Right.
I get that. You, on the other hand, have a very real business, one that I was already well aware of before i even was introduced to bethany frankel which is skinny girl margarita i i enjoy skinny girl i feel like a fraud if i'm drinking it because i'm not a skinny girl is there any room in the market for like a like thick boy thick dumbass margarita yeah zoftig zoftig sports fan well the skinny girl margarita uh became a whole line and i sold the cocktail portion of that business i so i don't own it anymore but a lot of men drink it just like men watch housewives because their wives drink it so the women are the purchasers of the households so the men drink it um i don't own that brand anymore.
I own 100% of the Skinny Girl brand, except for alcohol. That was my big sort of cash out exit.
And it was very creative of me and innovative to say, you can have that, but I'm keeping the rest of it. So for example, Grey Goose, when they sold, they don't get to keep the intellectual property and the name and make other things out of it.
And sky vodka. And I can name 50,

50 brands that don't do that.

So I get to go make jeans and salad dressings and popcorn and preserves and

everything else in the brand skinny girl that I own.

So that was a pretty baller business move,

but I still have the rest of my skinny girl stash at my house and men do

drink it.

Yeah.

It's tasty.

Yes.

Do you ever look in the mirror and you're like, like just look at yourself like yes queen i i like myself and i like you do i like myself more i i i would be want to be friends with myself because i'm very honest and i own it and i don't ask anybody to do anything i haven't done myself. And I work really hard.
And I'm a really good and centered mom. And I am honest about who I am and where I am in my life and how old I am and what I look like.
And I just don't front. And so I like to be friends with people like that.
And I like to laugh a lot. And comedy is first.
Comedy is the first priority. So I'm cool with who i am you know i'm and i'm tough too which is nice and it's i feel like it's good for my daughter to see those aspects of me in addition to just my sense of humor and being very nurturing to her so i like myself do you want to run for president oh well a lot of people have said i should run for mayor or president but to be perfectly honest i don't think i'm i'm not knowledgeable enough about foreign policy.
But I know you can get people around you to help you. And if you know what you don't know, you can get very far.
I've done, you know, over like 70 million dollars in relief work worldwide. And people have said I've gotten more.
Not people have said I've gotten infinitely more done than the government has gotten done in the time that I did it. Not even a question with all kinds of disasters, but that's only one area of politics.
I'm not great at like schmoozing 10,000 people in a row. Like, I don't think I would like touching so many people and just being fake and phony, but I'd be good at the game.
And I'm really in pajamas 90% of the time. And so I don't think that I think I'd have to like, I don't like being handled all the time.
Like you got to do this and then you got to go there and then you got to be this and we got to put the main, I don't like being touched and handled all the time. So I don't know if I'd like that part, but doing the running the country, I think I could absolutely do.
I mean, I know I could absolutely do. But the notion of what it's like to be at work is changing so quickly.
And especially in the last six months with the pandemic, so so much stuff is done remotely i think there's less handling going on in general you have you have a great social media presence that you could use to connect directly to people so you don't have to worry about going to as many fake schmoozy events and plus i think that there's like a certain amount of uh you know it's refreshing to deal with somebody and you can tell that they're not schmoozing you. You know, they can you can tell when somebody's just being authentic.
I'd be the honest politician and be able to figure out how to play the game without being corrupt and not bullshitting everybody. A hundred percent.
I just don't know how you go about being the president. I mean, if somebody that was important came in and like picked me up from my house and took me to the place I'm supposed to go and filled out the paperwork for me because I'm not good at that.
Then I would apply and see if I got the job. But I also don't like leaving my daughter.
But I guess there'd be like a nice fun bus that she could be on in homeschool. So yeah, I would give you a whole house.
Yeah, they do give you a whole house. Yeah, I'd love to renovate Gracie Mansion or the White House.
And I could get a lot of things done. But people would be like, I'd have to get a real education on foreign policy and certain issues.
But I guess that's what everybody, I just everybody i just wouldn't be full shit about it like if you want to get things done and be wise and be strategic i'm very good at that that i'm an executor so that not of people but of ideas so that would be that i could handle for sure but i just would need someone to guide me so you just mentioned um like doing the paperwork would suck uh i read that your biggest financial regret is you just filled out the paperwork wrong on when you made your business and it cost you millions of dollars. How did you not have someone else do that for you? I did.
It's not that I felt what happened was when I was doing the housewives at a certain point, I had a lawyer and the housewife said to be on the housewives,

you had to get paid in a certain way,

based on whatever my job or business was then like,

it takes a while to set up like your corporation or your LLC or S corp.

And I'm not good at that kind of stuff. And I don't pretend to be so,

but then I was just a personal entities being paid through a reality show.

So I guess I signed up for, I think it was either S corp or I had been in LLC. I don't remember.
I still don't remember, but I signed up. I checked the box to be whatever that was.
Well, then I started skinny grown, did all these other things and had good agents, but I didn't have, you know, like I have now $700 an hour lawyers, you know, and, and by the way, it doesn't even matter if I did lawyers and agents miss things all the time. And everybody who's listening needs to understand that you'd be a concept person and you'd be minding the whole shop and understanding because I find mistakes all the time in deals and things that I would have gotten fucked on all the time.
So anyway, I kept moving and grooving and selling my margaritas and, you know, to my surprise, uh, beam came and they wanted to buy it. And it was a very lucrative deal and it took months to negotiate the deal.
And even if I had been in the middle of negotiating the deal, realized that it would have been called clawback. You can't go clawback and uncheck a box because you're on another road.
So I, when I found out we sold and got the money, the check I got was March 17th, 2010.

And March 18th, I'll never forget it,

I was on an elliptical.

And I don't know, sometimes things hit me in a weird time

and I just, something hit me and I realized it

or someone said something to me.

And I realized that I had been registered as X

so I had to be paid as X.

And it was millions of dollars,

like a house in the Hamptons, millions of dollars house shit yeah paperwork's the worst i hate that shit we need to move on from paper we need to become a post paperwork society right and you also should like i think in in society you should be like yo my bad like i just filled out this thing like everyone hates paperwork no one's paying attention there should be just a little bit of a you know it's okay you fucked up Like, let fix it rebrand the claw back as the just my bad yeah my hand up hand up that's on me let's let's make it right yes right you sound a little bit like seth rogan sometimes just then you did who which one of us which one yeah me short hair me short hair big cat at me yeah i've gotten jonah hill talk about dmt dmt you ever go al connie um all right bethany what is up with uh be strong that's coming out soon too right no be strong is a the philanthropic oh yes i discussed where too many b words yeah you got b you got just b you got b strong you got the the HBO show? Well, that's the big shot, but my production company is Be Real. There you go.
Okay. That's a great name.
Yeah. So the philanthropy, I have done relief work all over the world for disaster relief, like being the first one on the ground to basically, you know, we flew 53 planes in and out of Puerto Rico filled with aid and then multiple barges and millions and millions of dollars and like 15 million pounds of aid.
The Bahamas, we did a similar massive effort, like major efforts. 100% goes to the initiative.
So there's no confusion as to where money's going. And I'm very transparent.
So I'm always keeping people connected about where their money's going so they have a good return on their investment. And for coronavirus and for the pandemic, I just thought we were going to give out 20,000 kits for sanitization and prevention.
But what ended up happening was I ended up distributing PPE to all 50 states. We did 2.1 million hazmat suits and masks.
And 2.1 million hazmat suits and masks, over $20 million of PPE to hospitals and police stations and to people all over the country saving people's lives before the government could kind of, you know, pull it together. So it was pretty gnarly.
It was pretty intense. It was very corrupt and it was very much hacking your way through corruption.
And it was really insane. That's, that's crazy.
Yeah. It seems like you just, all your companies, all your ventures, you just dominate the letter B.
Yeah. You own the letter B.
Yeah. I own the letter B.
Do you come up with all your names by yourself? I'm the biggest namer. No matter what it is, you tell me some idea for a show, in five minutes I'm like, I got the name.
I'm really good with names. Okay, a pack of sled dogs and one of them is going through puberty and they have to save a town.

Yeah.

Blood dog.

Oh,

that's very close.

Yeah.

Actually,

that's,

that'll be the PG version of it.

That's pretty good.

You said before we got started that you were really into horse racing.

You grew up around horses a lot.

I just like to have you back on to give like your Kentucky Derby picks and Belmont perks and Preakness picks.

I'd love to be,

how many women come on?

I'd love to, I like to be. They do? Yeah.
All right. Now I don't feel special.
Sorry. You're the only one.
You're the only one. We don't talk to girls.
You like I never do this with anyone. Yeah.
This is our first time. Barbara Corcoran.
Now we have our Kelly who set this up. Shout out Kelly.
She's the best. She's now typing all the names of women that we've had on to remind us.
Lindsey Vonn. The list keeps going.
Rachel Nichols. It literally goes for hours and hours and hours.
Layla Ali. Yeah.
Fact. Rose Lavelle from the U.S.
Women's National Team. Now you're going to make me competitive, so you can stop telling me all the girls you've slept with.

I'm not really interested in your background.

We're not really brunette types.

We're like, you know.

Yeah, we'll just, yeah, that's okay.

It's probably not for you.

One last, last question from me.

What was the favorite tagline you ever had?

Because you are creative.

If you're going to take a shot at this B, you better not miss. Oh, that's good.
I love the tagline. She'll sing it.
They're so bad. They're so bad and they're so good.
Like, they're like, you're going to either love me or hate me. There's no in between.
Well, and they also mix metaphors. Kyle said, Beverly Hills, the cream rises to the, in Beverly Hills, the truth always rises to the top i'm like cream isn't it the cream that rises oh man they're the best well bethany this has been awesome we really appreciate it it's so fun everyone go check out the new podcast um go check out uh bethany's show on hbo so just be with bethany frankel is a new podcast.
Go check out Bethany's show on HBO. So Just Be With Bethany Frankel is a new podcast.
She has her relief effort and all the stuff she's doing with Be Strong. She has her HBO show.
Anything else? What else did I miss? Did I miss anything else? You're doing a million things. We can send you a bunch of the products.
We have salad dressings and popcorn and preserves and you don't need shapewear you look beautiful you don't need shapewear your body's perfect no i could use a little yeah in the in the chest i'd like some spanks yeah for my cry it's not spanks it's called skinny girl skinny girl sorry skinny girl we'll bleep that out skinny boy it's better than spanks yeah yeah i do actually need this i i will take some thank you okay you'll just give us your sizes and we'll get you a nice built in bra tank top what would be my female size XXXXL do you have men's I can't see your physique right now you'd have to stand up no I'd rather not alright Bethany thanks so much really appreciate it thank. That interview with Bethany Franco was brought to you by.
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Then we'll send everyone off into their football weekend. I think there's a basketball game this time.
I haven't heard too much about it. Actually, I'll start with Firefest.
My Firefest is actually that. I've put on a strong face to our darling Jake when he constantly asked me, do I think the Heat have a chance? And I said, no chance.
But there was a moment in the third quarter of game four where I was like, I think the heat can win this series and boy was i wrong and boy does that suck because i told myself not to get my hopes up and then i did tell you what how about this is our nba recap yeah so we're gonna get ahead of it we're not gonna do on monday uh lakers technically won good job lakers way to go Technically. Way to go.
You won the AAU championship. Game 7 Tuesday night.
Jake. Jake.
You're going to break your little heart. Come on, Jake.
Jake, you want to do your fire fest? Yeah, I actually have one. You always prepare.
I love that. Yeah, I always have one in my back pocket.
You know what Jake told me? If I don't get called on, I pocket it. You know what he told me earlier today? So when Jake does the stool streams live, he does homework he interviews everybody that's going to be competing he says that typically in any given game you only want to use about 15 to 20 percent of what you've prepared for so he over prepares by 80 to 85 percent to do the math right on yeah you got it uh every time he does a broadcast that's why we like jake and with fire fest so every week he has a fire fest That's why we like Jake.
And with Fyre Fest, so every week he has a Fyre Fest, and he pockets it. So pretty much, like, all the bad things in your life, you're just pushing them down as hard as you can and just being like, let's not talk about them.
I like that about you, Jake. It's just, if I get called on, I'm not going to try to insert myself.
You're Irish. You're now Irish.
Sure. Okay.
I think my email got hacked. I've gotten some random weird emails in these last few.
Like what? Did you look at porn? No. Did you look at porn? No.
Did you look at porn? No. Liberty U Online, American Home Shield Warranty, CBS Shopper, FS360.
It's annoying. Are you in your junk mail? No.
It's all going straight It's my inbox. So Jake, just be like a normal American.
Be like, okay, I have a lot of junk mail that I'm never going to send to like the, the junk folder right now. I have like 50,000 unread emails.
I press on subscribe and they, what's, I'll let you see the porn boss get into your Instagram. What's your, what's your email address? The splashes.
Well, it's my personal email. Yeah.
What is it? Well can fix it. What is it? I guess it's on my website.
Don't send any more spam, guys. Don't sign Jake up for everything.
Don't sign him up. Man, that sucks.
You have a website? I showed you guys in my interview. Yeah, that's it's written in the third person too it's my favorite part it's like Jake Marsh did this Jake Marsh did that I was going to actually bleep out you saying your email so that people wouldn't send it but now it's really public be nice to But now it's really going to get straight up.
Be nice to Jake. Yeah, be nice to Jake.
Don't do it. Don't sign him up for hilarious listservs.
No, this is going to get really bad. No, it's going to.
No, it's not going to. No one's going to do it.
You got it, dude. Maybe take it off your website.
But I just said it. Unless you bleep it out.
Right, we'll bleep it out and then you can take it off your website. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
I should probably take my phone number off there too. Yeah.
Oh my gosh, Jake. Yes, you should.
All right. Okay.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Hank, do you want to go? You should do that right now. You can go, PC.
You don't have one? No, I just want you to go first. Okay.
Well, Hank's looking up his FireF of the week. My Fire Fest is a pretty easy one.
I'm being investigated for $40,000 worth of damages by Airbnb, which I just found out about last weekend. Party man.
So I rented a house inside of Long Island on Labor Day weekend. In what Labor Day weekend? Yeah, in Labor Day weekend, I rented a house in Long Island.
I went out there, had a pool. Basically, I just wanted to get away from new york get away from the city for a weekend since i haven't really left the city since march you took a vacation early march no it was on days that we already had off that our forebearers had fought for to get labor day so i i wanted to honor them by taking one day off of work yeah so got a house that had had a pool in the backyard basically just hung out, took it easy.
You drained the pool and skateboarded. Drank a few beers by the pool.
And now the homeowner has contacted me saying that I caused $40,000 worth of the pool. All I did bad in that pool was pissing it, which I did a lot.
That pool, I definitely, definitely peed a lot in that pool. However, they say uh i didn't keep the pool at the correct level and that the motor and the pump broke down on it oh by the way that was not in the listing for the airbnb telling me i would have to do any sort of pool maintenance well you shouldn't have drank all that water i'm not a pool boy i did go to school in central virginia that does not make me a pool boy but i did drink well i drank a lot of beer um but i i even took the hose and i used the hose to fill up the pool every day that i was there i think she's scamming me because she sent me a picture of the the like um work the person like who is in charge of fixing the pool the mechanic he wrote up a report saying this damage was caused by your house guest PFT not filling up the pool enough which is bullshit because i did it every day anyways i feel like forty thousand dollars is a lot to ask yeah just don't respond well i did i had we have the best lawyer in the world on your side so you're good there i'm gonna sick mike portnoy on them yeah get them if they want forty thousand dollars ask me for four thousand dollars i'll probably give you forty thousand by accident but no i didn't even i didn't cause a penny worth of damage that place but i am looking forward to a little public fight though yeah because it gets the blood going let me know if you want to yell at someone yeah like you and i will show up i yell at them i gave uh i gave a motorist the double birds today in the middle of the street feels great yeah i will show up to their door and just yell at them from a distance.
Okay. Hank, your Firefest.
You go, Big Cat. You keep thinking about the challenger.
I already went. Billy? All right, Hank doesn't have one.
Go ahead, Billy. My Firefest is actually Billy, just in life in general.
Oh, wow. Seems like you're punching down a little bit.
We got in a big fight, and then we played in a tournament last night. We came in dead last.
And now we have to write a 5,000 word blog. Billy, do you know 5,000 words? I actually have a 4,000 word paper on Moby Dick.
So why don't we just submit that? Yes, yes. I've been saying that the whole time.
Perfect. Okay, so you've got to add 1,000 words to that.
Yeah, which isn't that bad. No.
Just put a pre-workout. All right.
Review. Boom.
Your Fyre Fest, Hank, is that you are fighting with a 20-year-old, 21-year-old about video games. Yes.
Yeah. I mean, that's actually a macro level.
That definitely is what happens where I get really upset, and then I take a second. I'm just like, what am I doing? Yeah, what are you doing here? What's going on here? Right.
Yeah. Billy, you got a fire fest.
We're going to do a number. Go ahead.
Well, my fire fest is I actually kind of lost my Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Oh, and Billy was screaming when we were playing. He was screaming at all his friends in the background that he was having a party or something.
I was not having a party. He has a friend named Winston which is just

the most preposterous

name to have.

My friend

he's Jamaican.

Hell yeah.

No I was about to ask you.

It's not like

a Winston Churchill

type situation.

What's going on here?

Finish this sentence

because this could go

any different way

any direction.

I accidentally

put a down payment

on

Hedgehog.

Okay that's not

what I expected.

What'd you lose?

I don't know. Any direction.
I accidentally put a down payment on a hedgehog.

Okay, that's not what I expected.

What'd you lose?

I lost a down payment because I basically hit the parlay last Sunday.

And I was like, fuck it.

I'm going to buy a hedgehog.

Yep.

Then I woke up.

Most people do that with their parlay money. The next day, and I was like, wait a second.

You spent all your money on an animal. I shouldn't just animals.
Does it have its papers? Or is this like a Tiger King situation where a lemur salesman is going to wear a wire on you? I've been deciding, am I going to either bite the bullet or actually get the hedgehog? How much does one put down? What is 20% of a hedgehog? Basically, the down payment on a hedgehog wasn't that much, but the actual hedgehog is a lot. How much? It's, well, it was a $75 down payment, and a hedgehog's about $250 on top of that.
Okay. Your credit must suck if they made you put down that much as a down payment.
Yeah. I mean, think about how many times you can fuck this hedgehog.
Whoa, no, you can't. That's the prickles.
You'll find a way. That's a portrait problem.
No one would accuse someone you're rough. I did not.
No. You can fuck Sonic.
There's an entire series of websites out there dedicated to Sonic. By the seventh fingering of this hedgehog, it pays for itself.
Okay. Maybe whore it out.
I love that Billy keeps bringing up his animals and we keep making the same joke. I just like legit and he keeps being like, why are you saying I'm doing that? I think animals and chill is fuck.
Yeah, right. And you guys just like make me have sex with them.
Why don't you You do it on your own. I don't.
I don't. Anyway.
Go halfsies with Winston on it. Yeah.
Well, actually, Winston's moving in. Winston and I had over 50 combined touchdowns in high school.
Oh, fuck. That's pretty sweet.
Dude. He's moving in.
Why do you need a hedgehog? You can just talk about those touchdowns. I know.
We watch our highlights. Of course you do.
Of course you do. Dude, Huddle's awesome because it just hangs around.
You can pull it up anywhere. All right.
Yep. It's called the internet.
It's called the Internet. You can watch.
All right, here we go. 17.

Huddle highlights.

18.

42.

I don't like that Jake keeps price, whatever you call it.

Price is right.

Yeah. 42.

Eight.

One day we're going to get it.

What is that?

Damn, it's 89.

It's going to be electric.

Wait, what?

It's going to be electric.

All right, see you guys.

Love you guys.

Keep prices riding me. Thank you.
Thank you.