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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we got some range, folks. We got two interviews.
Warren Sharp, our good friend, Warren Sharp. We talked football, a little preview of the weekend.
Also,

Speaker 1 you know, just recapping the first four games, what we're seeing trend-wise, what we're seeing, who's surprising us, who is disappointing us in the NFL. We get into all of that.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, October 9th, and we're time traveling. We are time traveling.
You're probably saying, well, why didn't you just say the Bears are dead or the Bears are back?

Speaker 1 Because we're taping this in the afternoon and we have,

Speaker 1 coming up in a second, our reactions to the game. We're actually going to tape after the game.
After the game.

Speaker 1 And recap everything, but we're also going to give prediction, which is going to be insanely correct. Insanely correct.
So, PFT, Big Cat. What do you think?

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 Nick Foles. I don't want to say I like the Bears.

Speaker 1 I don't like the Bears, but I like Nick Foles in this game. There's not a lot to like.
It's Tom Brady and Nick Foles. I've seen this movie before.
To the math. Big dick, tiny tinkler, Tom.

Speaker 1 I like the Bears. I like Nick Foles.
Nick Foles. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think,

Speaker 1 in my heart of hearts, I was very down on the Bears, obviously, on Sunday. That game wanted me to jump in front of a bus.

Speaker 1 I'm back. I feel like the Bears are going to have a great effort tonight.

Speaker 1 I also think, PFT,

Speaker 1 I think the Bears' offense is going to look good. I think the Bears' offense is going to have some.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have 200 yards? Yeah, 250, maybe.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to have a good start of the game script. I think Nick Foles has, you know, it's a short week, obviously, but maybe just a little conversation with all the receivers.

Speaker 1 I actually took a bet. Allen Robinson, two touchdowns is plus 800.
I think that's going to happen. Okay.

Speaker 1 And I think the Bears are going to come away from this being like, hey, you know, maybe not the perfect game, but we just went toe-to-toe.

Speaker 1 We beat the Bucs, and Nick Foles looks good, and Matt Nagy, not a bumbling idiot. My entire outlook on this game is based on the opposite is going to happen to what I just saw last week.

Speaker 1 So the Bears were so bad and so painfully boring to watch last week, and everybody saw it.

Speaker 1 Everybody is just talking about how shitty the Bears are.

Speaker 1 At that point, once everybody reaches a consensus, at least like this early in the season, unless it's the Jets who stink or the Ravens who are F-words,

Speaker 1 the Chiefs that are good. The the Chiefs that are a good football team.
Right.

Speaker 1 Whenever somebody reaches a full consensus, everyone thinks the Bears stink and their offense is painfully boring. The script gets flipped.
So something weird is going to happen tonight.

Speaker 1 Here's my bold prediction for tonight. It's going to be weird kicker night, but I think weird kicker in your favor, which is something that you're not using.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking Cairo Santos might do something good. I'm thinking, is it gay or is it suck-up?

Speaker 1 What a hilarious last couple kicker names. Gay or suck up.
Just occurred to me. I think it's suck up.

Speaker 1 I think suck up is going to do something weird. Yes.
Whether it's miss two out of three field goals, maybe miss an extra point, maybe

Speaker 1 kickoff out of bounds. That's an illegal procedure.
Give the Bears good field position,

Speaker 1 which they then turn into a field goal. Yep.
Big points.

Speaker 1 I'm actually taking the over, too, because the Bears, again, look like they have the offensive ineptitude of a high school team that tries to run a single win for the first time.

Speaker 1 That's being generous. So

Speaker 1 I think I'm taking the Bears. I'm taking the over.

Speaker 1 So everyone's down on the Bears, obviously after Sunday. Everyone's kind of weirdly saying that the Bucs are like a finished product.
I don't think they are. I don't think they are.

Speaker 1 I mean, we watched that Chargers game. If Justin Herbert doesn't, you know, that handoff at the end of the half doesn't result in a fumble, I think the Chargers probably win that game.

Speaker 1 And we're looking at this a lot differently, a Bucs team that lost to the Saints, struggled a little bit with the Panthers, and lost to the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Instead, they're coming into it 3-1 on a three-game winning streak, and everyone's like,

Speaker 1 look at the Bucs. They're an awesome team.
Huge X Factor, which I know you saw. I saw it this morning as well.
It's going to be 66 degrees today in Chicago. That is Mitch weather.

Speaker 1 He's still going to be there. He's going to be on the sidelines.
And I actually, I made a power ranking list.

Speaker 1 I'm going to actually, I'm going to wait until Monday to unveil this, but I have a power ranking of my top five quarterbacks in terms of how crisp their handoffs are. And Mitch is up there.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Mitch does a great handoff. Nice.
Is Jimmy G up there? Jimmy G is up there. Yes.

Speaker 1 He better be. He better be.
Actually, it's funny. I had Jimmy G and I had Nick Mullins in my top five.
Okay, nice. It's the system.
Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 the embarrassment of riches. Yes.
Okay, let's do the time travel. Well, actually, you know what, Billy, why don't you say what you think is going to happen, and then we're going to time travel.

Speaker 1 So we are going to tape the reaction to the game after the game, obviously. And that will be in a second.
But, Billy, tell us what you think is going to happen.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady's going to skull fuck the Bears. Oh, Hank says, Hank thinks the.
All right. Hank, you have it down as one skull fuck.
Tom Brady on the Bears. Billy, your prediction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's going to be a pretty low scoring, but close game. I think my man Gronk, he's going to show some.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to show something tonight, but I'm not sure if he's going to be old Gronk. And I think the game's really going to come down to

Speaker 1 a lot of kicking. I think I'm going to take Bears here.
Really? But it's going to come down to whether Brady's been aging,

Speaker 1 whether we see Brady's age physically and kind of mentally. What, like,

Speaker 1 what do you mean by mentally? His mental age? I don't know. Maybe he gets slower as you age.
Like, he's never been a fast quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but, you know, he's like supposed to be like the smart quarterback, but like, you know, you're not always with it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so to recap, Billy, you think that Tom Brady is going to make a mental blunder that's going to cost them the game and that the Bears' kickers are going to be really good? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're fucking stupid. All right, Billy.
Thank you. Billy doesn't watch NFL, so he doesn't get predictions right, really.
All due respect. No disrespect to families.

Speaker 1 Our family, you're fucking dumbass.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 The truth sometimes helps, you know? I thought it was an okay prediction. All right.
Just okay. All right.
Let's time travel.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We're time traveling. It's after the game, and

Speaker 1 the Bears are back. The Bears are back.

Speaker 1 Where do you want to start? Tom Brady

Speaker 1 thinking it was fourth down, standing there, and that was kind of a sad sight? Or Matt Nagy being an idiot and fucking up the clock and the defense bailing them out?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm so glad that Matt Nagy did that, though, because we got to see Tom Brady do that at the end.

Speaker 1 Yes. That was a moment where he was just staring like a deer in the headlights at the officials because Tom Brady has never been that wrong about anything in his life.

Speaker 1 It was actually kind of sad to see because he was just standing there like fourth down. And I get it.
It was moving quickly. It was bang, bang, bang at the end of a game.

Speaker 1 I just, PFT, we talked about Washington football team, I think it was earlier this week, maybe on Monday, like being in and out, you know, in or out. Like, you got to find out pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 This game tonight for the Bears was my in or out game. If the Bears lost this game and lost it poorly, I would have been like, okay, they are frauds.
Guess what? I don't think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nick Foles looked terrible in the first half, or probably the first 25 minutes of the game, game, turned it on at the end of the second quarter, and Khalil Mack was a monster. And

Speaker 1 like, Matt Nagy, that guy just is obsessed with throwing back shoulder passes to Allen Robinson that either get picked off or really fuck things up.

Speaker 1 But other than that, the Bears actually played well, and

Speaker 1 I'm not going to apologize. And I'm also,

Speaker 1 I got bad thoughts going on in my brain right now. Super Bowl.
Super Bowl. No, no.
Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I mean, the way that you're winning games, these are all games that the Bears would typically find themselves on the losing end on. And by that, I mean, like, these types of losses are Bears' losses.

Speaker 1 But for whatever reason,

Speaker 1 the script is flying. I don't want to hear anything about luck because I don't want to put that in your head.
But it is, it's very weird. Almost like Team of Destiny vibes.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't use the word Super Bowl lightly. Stop.
All right. Now, Team of Destiny.

Speaker 1 Big Cat. Can you imagine at the start of the season, finding out that you were going to start 4-1 and that you'd have a win over Tom Brady because he's going senile and he can't count to five anymore.

Speaker 1 Like, this is Team of Destiny stuff for sure. And Nick Foles, he's got, dude, has ice water in his veins, except for one.
His dick, obviously.

Speaker 1 That's boiling hot blood pulsing through that thing. But you were talking about the back shoulder throws that he was hitting down the field.
He is also a pass interference monster.

Speaker 1 He is. The shark wheel worked very well.
So everything out of the flats was great.

Speaker 1 And then, no, he's so, Matt Nagy is obsessed with calling these Allen Robinson back shoulder passes that I think through four games or five games,

Speaker 1 it's been intercepted three times. A couple times been like Allen Robinson's just been bullied out of it.

Speaker 1 And then you had that one where he called when it was so obviously if you run clock and kick a field goal, you give Tom Brady 30 seconds and no timeouts, and the game is essentially over.

Speaker 1 Instead, Matt Nagy's like, let's make it as hard as possible. Let's make sure that they get a minute and a half, and let's see if Tom Brady can bring the Bucs down the field.
And it was almost there.

Speaker 1 There was a couple chances they had.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 look, I'm not going to complain about Matt and Aagie tonight because the Bears won. And, again, Nick Foles started slow.
I actually, we were sitting down in Philly.

Speaker 1 There were some rumblings about Mitch. I said, no, no, no.
Let Nick Foles settle in here. Started making some plays.

Speaker 1 And again, the defense, like Khalil Mack, was a monster, an absolute monster tonight. And yeah, the Bears are back.
I don't know what else to say, but the Bears are back.

Speaker 1 I just like saying Tristan Wurfs. It's a fun name to say.
He got beat up. Tristan Worfs.
That one

Speaker 1 played. Where Khalil sacked Brady, and then afterwards, he sacked Tristan Wurfs.

Speaker 1 He hip-slammed him. You should not be allowed

Speaker 1 to possess the strength required to throw Tristan Wurfs onto his head. Like, you just hip-tosed him.
It was insane to see that.

Speaker 1 What I would say about Nick Foles, though, when he throws the pass interference ball, it's shades of Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 That is a very efficient play to to underthrow the ball by just enough to make the defender run into you and you get that easy like 15, 20 yards down the field if you need it.

Speaker 1 Also, Bruce Arians, very confusing. I'm not talking yet about his play calling or his decision making on fourth and short.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the switch to the transition lenses, away from the transition lenses. He's now wearing the clear glasses, no longer the dark shades.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that's all about, but I think it had something to do with the fact that he went for it early in the game, fourth and one on their own 19, and then late in the game, they kicked a field goal to put him up by one.

Speaker 1 That was the most disrespectful because that was Nick Foles, like I said, started off like, you know, the first 25 minutes was terrible. That was the most,

Speaker 1 your offense is so abysmal. Like, we don't care if we don't get this fourth and one on our own fucking 19.

Speaker 1 Thankfully, it ended up, you know, not mattering in the end, but Jesus, that was a slap in the Bears' offense's face. Maybe that's what woke him up.
Maybe

Speaker 1 going for it there was basically saying, hey, you guys suck so bad. We'll give you the ball in the red zone if we can't get this fourth and one.
Pissed Chuck Pagano off. Yeah, a win is a win.

Speaker 1 A win is a win. So, all right, you want to do the rest of the weekend preview? I would absolutely pass.
What?

Speaker 1 Come on. Oh, yeah, it's true.
No. Okay,

Speaker 1 credits due, Billy. You were right.

Speaker 1 You were right.

Speaker 1 Who are the dum dums now? We're the dum-dums. Yeah.
You're genius. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I doubted you, Billy. I'm sorry.
You were right. You were really, really right.
Spot on.

Speaker 1 All right. Just need some credit.
I think I might tail the psycho shit parlay this weekend just because

Speaker 1 if you were able to nail it that much

Speaker 1 I think Billy Billy has like a ESP with Gronk he can just tap into Gronk's brain and figure out what's about to happen showed some serious fire tonight he did

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to the rest of the weekend preview.

Speaker 1 Let's go through the slate. Not a great one.

Speaker 1 It's football. They're all good in their own right.
Objection. It's football.
This is like if you have like seven kids, this is the sixth kid who maybe goes to

Speaker 1 a public university and you love him, but he's not the first kid or the seventh kid. He's just, you know.
What's wrong with public universities? I went to a public university. Yeah, so did I.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm a disappointment to my parents. That's true.
Yeah, so there it is. Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 The worst part about this weekend isn't just the the matchups. It's the realization that the season is slipping through our fingers.
Because it's the first bye week. I know.
We're on a bye week.

Speaker 1 Matt Patricia is on the way through. Matt Patricia's on a bye week.
Somehow survived until... What do you think he does to relax when he doesn't have football on the schedule?

Speaker 1 He probably actually just went into the woods because then he doesn't have to pick up a phone when they want to fire him. That's true.

Speaker 1 If you don't check your mail, if you don't answer your phone, if you don't respond to text messages, you can't be fired. Right.
Just show up to work. Be like, you never told me I was fired.
I'm here.

Speaker 1 You already paid me for the day. Might as well hang out.
Well, you know what? In Matt Patrice's defense,

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 inherited a bad organization, bad team. Go ahead.
Even though they were, I think, the most successful they'd been in in like 20 years.

Speaker 1 Well, in Matt Patrice's defense, they literally give up second-half leads of 14 or more points every week. Just play 10 minutes.
Except for the Super Bowl. Yeah, just play 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 I think he goes fishing, just throws a bunch of slim-fast six-pack rings into the lake and then speeds away. Maybe he builds a rocket.

Speaker 1 Maybe he builds a rocket. That's true.

Speaker 1 People forget. He's literally a rocket scientist.

Speaker 1 I say he's probably crushing that challenger documentary okay hank rocket related he should well it's actually a row now for four episodes in a row that's a perfect analogy for his season thus far yes yes should have fixed o-rings matt oh

Speaker 1 all right uh panthers falcons let's start there falcons this could be the end for dan quinn i have said many times i'm going to respect teddy bridge rudder more and that's why i love the panthers in this game and i just like

Speaker 1 I mean, the Falcons, they have the players, but maybe they're just bad. Also, yeah, they're coming off a short week.
Yeah. I don't think they're bad.

Speaker 1 They have the players. They might be playing.
You just bad.

Speaker 1 I'm having a hard time quitting both the Falcons and the Texans. I know those are two teams that you have latched yourself onto in the past, but they both have so much talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, and they're bad. Well, the Texans don't really anymore, but the Falcons are just bad.
They're just straight up bad.

Speaker 1 I'm going to withhold my pick on this game until I see if they're wearing the Deion Sanders all-black jerseys. Yes.
You know what they need to do?

Speaker 1 Although, no, they have new throwbacks, I think, which makes no sense to Oxymoron, but they have new throwbacks.

Speaker 1 So their new throwbacks are like the mid-2000s? They look like

Speaker 1 they're like an interpretation of a throwback, but they're new. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes. Like a period piece.
Yeah, pretty much. They're like, this is what, if we had today's technology, this is what we would have worn in the 90s.
It's like Wild, Wild West, the movie.

Speaker 1 It's like, we're going to go back in time and look at the Wild, Wild West, except guess what? There's kick-ass mechanical spiders that destroy you. And I'm Will Smith, and I'm a fucking badass.

Speaker 1 And also, I invented rap in the 1800s. Right, exactly.
Got it. Okay.
Independence Day. Remember that? If those are.
That's Will Smith, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 If those are the jerseys they're wearing, the fake throwbacks, then I'm going to say no way to the Atlanta Falcons. But if they're wearing the all-blacks,

Speaker 1 I'm going to bet on the Falcons this weekend. Okay.
Bills Titans, is this game even going to happen? Probably not. Has it officially been canceled or moved? Not yet.
Maybe by the time you record it.

Speaker 1 Did you see

Speaker 1 Doug Farrar, NFL writer, had the hottest take? Yes. He said, cancel the entire Titans season because they don't respect COVID.
Well, no, I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, he canceled their whole season. He blocked me on Twitter, so I did not see that play.
Same. But

Speaker 1 you creeped on him? No, someone sent me, someone was like, check out this take. And I think it literally was like, so he did the power rankings.

Speaker 1 The power rankings, he had the Titans in 32nd because he said, if they're not going to respect COVID, I'm not going to respect them. And then he wrote a whole piece being like, cancel their season.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it's interesting that the Titans even got caught in the first place.

Speaker 1 It's actually funny that it took them so long to be doing these practices and get caught because their professional football team.

Speaker 1 What professional football team do you know could show up at a local high school for like a week and a half doing constant like off-the-books practices and never get caught for it?

Speaker 1 It was like one guy that took it, like one high schooler took a picture through a chain link fence from 200 yards away. He's like,

Speaker 1 I think that might be the Titans that have been practicing at my high school field all week. That's how forgettable the Titans roster is.

Speaker 1 That's a tough look. I just,

Speaker 1 yeah, this game, I can't stand the people who freak out after every positive test. I mean, it's similar to baseball.

Speaker 1 Like, we're going to have, when you're not in a bubble, things are going to go wrong, right? So

Speaker 1 just everyone chill out because I've seen many times whenever there's a new test, there's a lot of hand-wringing and like, so much for the NFL season. That was fun while it lasted.

Speaker 1 It's still going to go.

Speaker 1 It's also a lot of virus shaming. Yes.
Making fun of them for being sick. That's true.
I personally hope that the Titans get well enough to play a full schedule. I do too.

Speaker 1 I have friends on the Titans.

Speaker 1 There was

Speaker 1 something that I think Adam Schefter threw this out earlier today, saying that if all these games start to get canceled, the league is talking about maybe just making it best winning percentage at the end of the season.

Speaker 1 That would suck.

Speaker 1 They did that for baseball. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 there were some teams that didn't play all the games, but I don't think it works for football.

Speaker 1 The in-the-hunt graphics are going to get fucked up. And the Eagles' tie is is going to look even better.
They're going to have to hire a whole new slate of data scientists.

Speaker 1 The Eagles win the NFC East at like 3-5- and 1. The Eagles should just

Speaker 1 stop playing right now.

Speaker 1 1-2- and 1. Can't get better than this.
That's good enough to get you. Yeah, absolutely.
That's the top of the NFC East this season.

Speaker 1 Hank had a good take earlier today, though.

Speaker 1 He was saying that the NFL needs to be looked into because it just so happens that the Patriots, best player on offense and best player on defense, have COVID.

Speaker 1 But not enough for them to have to cancel games.

Speaker 1 So they have to play just without their best players. Oh, interesting.
Very interesting. Squeeze out.

Speaker 1 They pay them.

Speaker 1 With photo evidence of Gilmore and Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes broke protocol, hugged Stephan Gilmore when he probably didn't even want to be hugged. Yeah.
But somehow he doesn't have Corona.

Speaker 1 But one of their backup QBs does. Or, flip it,

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick knew that Gilmore had Corona. He was like, hey, go hug Mahomes for us.
Yeah, sent him over there. No, because who do you think is doing the testing? Who's reporting on the test results?

Speaker 1 Patriots and

Speaker 1 NFL. Oh, okay.
NFL. Who's my answer? NFL.
What are you going to say, Billy? Belichick could be doing his own tests on off days.

Speaker 1 He definitely will. Just for fun.
For his own tests. Belichick probably thinks that Ernie Adams

Speaker 1 is a bomb-sniffing dog where he can just go up and he sniffs everyone's breath as they come into the facility. He's like, nope, doesn't have it.
Yep. Has it.

Speaker 1 I bet you he's sending Steve Belichick team to team, collecting samples.

Speaker 1 As long as you show up somewhere wearing a lab coat, people will be like, yeah, that guy's a doctor. Is that the scope?

Speaker 1 So send him to their next opponent, get their swabs, check their DNA, bring it back to Papa, and now he's got all the dirt. I like it.

Speaker 1 My other national unbiased football reporter take is that Varable and the Titans are going to get extra fucked because he's a former Patriot.

Speaker 1 I just love where your mind goes like that. I also love, so the Raiders and Chiefs.
You agree, though, right? Like, they're going to come down hard, like, super, super,

Speaker 1 super hard.

Speaker 1 Probably. Not necessarily because he's a former Patriot.
Are you shaming? I like that line of thinking from you, though. You're not going to cut and do him any favors.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Raiders, Chiefs the next game might not happen as well.

Speaker 1 So that one we're hoping is going to happen, but it might not because they're like people are saying their hand-wringing is going on where they're like, well, it's only a matter of time before the Chiefs start testing positive.

Speaker 1 So it was like pulled for a couple days on the board, and it's back on there.

Speaker 1 I also, just as a side note, I love that everyone is talking about the Chiefs' schedule because they played Monday night, then they're playing Sunday, then they're playing Thursday.

Speaker 1 And they're like, the Chiefs are going to play three games in 11 days.

Speaker 1 If the schedule hadn't been fucked, they would have played three games in 12 games. 12 days.
That extra day helps. So

Speaker 1 everyone gets fucked when they play Thursday night football.

Speaker 1 It's telling on yourself to not be like, wait, but Thursday night football happens every week, so some team always plays in this short condensed time.

Speaker 1 I like it when it's even further in the distance, involving an even greater amount of time. So it's like, can you believe that they're going to have to play like

Speaker 1 five and a half games in 28 days? Yeah. And then the time.
With time change. Yeah, with a West Coast game late.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you look that far ahead and say how they're getting scheduled fucked. I do kind of like the Raiders in this.
I do, too.

Speaker 1 Because I've heard a lot of talk this week about how John Gruden is saying this is not a rivalry because they kick her ass so much.

Speaker 1 So you know that John Gruden is playing like snuff films, like the worst highlights ever of Chiefs Raiders games non-stop in the practice facility.

Speaker 1 No, they just have to go to last year because I'm going to probably take the Raiders in this game, but all I can think about is last year when Patrick Mahomes threw four touchdown passes in that second quarter.

Speaker 1 So that feels like it could also happen again. Cardinals, Jets.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go quick here. Well, it's Flacco, right? Yeah, it's Flacco.
So there's a great quote. Their offensive coordinator.
By the way, do you know who the Jets' offensive coordinator is?

Speaker 1 I'm shocked they had one. No.
His name is Dowell Loggins. Oh, yeah.
Dow Loggins. He used to be with the Bears.
Okay, yeah. That's why you know not familiar with his body of works.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He was the Bears' offensive coordinator and performed so well. He failed upwards.

Speaker 1 Is that the Bears to the Jets offense?

Speaker 1 I say it's Jersey's office. Well, no, he was quarterbacks.
Well, he was quarterbacks coach, I want to say, for Cutler,

Speaker 1 and then he got offensive coordinator. Yeah, I would say going quarterbacks coach on the Bears to offensive coordinator on the Jets is a lateral move.
Yeah, that is a lateral move.

Speaker 1 No offense to DK Metcalf.

Speaker 1 But he said he definitely has a Jersey toughness and a Jersey edge to him about flacco okay so jersey edge i'm i'm believing in flacco short term dowel late loggins is also a short king he's 5'6 there we go tough to coach coach the quarterback you prepare to zoom for the offensive line zooms uh zoom 720s for that guy

Speaker 1 uh this game is simple to me if the cardinals are even remotely for real they win this easily and if they're frauds they lose i think that yeah that's fair that's it's pretty it's it's like if this is your chance cardinals to prove that i need to start taking you even a little bit seriously.

Speaker 1 If they don't cover the spread, which is seven, then they're

Speaker 1 F-words. Correct.

Speaker 1 Eagles, Steelers, Battle of Wennsylvania. I love when these teams play.

Speaker 1 By the way, download the Barcelon Sportsbook app because I know that we have that deal.

Speaker 1 It's like a free, it's a free sub in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia every single Monday, going for the rest of the season if the Eagles or the Steelers cover. Okay.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they both can't cover this game. I think the Steelers are going to win.

Speaker 1 I think so, too. And easily.
I think so, too. Because body clock.
Yeah, Big Ben didn't play last week. Which was an injury.

Speaker 1 If you had someone to complain and cry victim for other people getting coronavirus as Ben Rothelsberger, then you won. Nothing.
Because everyone expected that to happen. Yeah, he was saying

Speaker 1 it felt weird not being able to play last week.

Speaker 1 These people got a disease that we still don't have a cure for, but the real victim here is me because I didn't know that we were going to have a bye week, and then we had a a bye week.

Speaker 1 What do they call sandwiches in Pittsburgh? It's not a hoagie. It's a hoagie in Philadelphia.
Is it a hero? Is it a grinder? It might be a grinder.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, no.
I just searched grinder. That's not what that is.
Leave out the E. Okay.
Yeah, no, that came up.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, they just stuffed it.
They put fries in it. It's Permantes.
Okay, so if the Eagles win, everyone in Pittsburgh has to call them hoagies.

Speaker 1 If the Steelers win, then you just have to put fries literally in everything in Philadelphia. All right, next game, Rams, Washington football team.

Speaker 1 We talk a little bit with Warren Sharp about Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 1 Surprising that he got bumped all the way down to third string.

Speaker 1 I think, though, PFT, I think your Washington football team is going to come out as a live dog here with someone who can maybe move the ball up and down the field. I don't hate that notion.

Speaker 1 Kyle Allen had, what, six good games? Five hands. I didn't remember small hands.
I'm putting that out of my memory for right now. Small hands.
Stop saying it.

Speaker 1 Stop saying it. He had like five good games left.
He had a moment. He officially had a moment.
We had that moment where we're like, like, is Kyle Allen having a moment? He beat Kyler Murray.

Speaker 1 And so I'm going to ride Kyle Allen on this one. I think he's got some magic in there.
I like that. Bengals-Ravens.
This is another one where I want to...

Speaker 1 So I promised myself that I would always take the Ravens against inferior opponents because they'll just shit pump them. But I think Joe Burrow, this year, the Bengals are not going to be good.

Speaker 1 But I'm actually, no, I'm. Yeah, no, Joe Burrow is 4-0 against Spread.
So Joe Burrow's our spread god of the season so far. So you have to take the Bengals.
I like that. As the spread god.

Speaker 1 I like that. I think the Ravens are going to win, but I think the Bengals are going to cover.
Right, exactly. Spread God.
Jaguars, Texans, this should be on Thursday night. Also, no one cares.

Speaker 1 This is prime time.

Speaker 1 Forget about this game happening on red zone. Well, it's false hope because it's an interim head coach, so you want to take the Texans just based on the spark, but as we said, Romeo provides no spark.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 He's an older Jim Caldwell. He's somehow, I think he's more alive than Jim Caldwell

Speaker 1 by the narrowest of margins, but he doesn't, he doesn't do it. He doesn't like light that fire like you like to see a lot of interim coaches do.
So

Speaker 1 I think he's more alive than Jim Caldwell simply because he's heavier, and when you're that heavy,

Speaker 1 you can, it's obvious that you're breathing. I'll put it this way.
He's closer to death than Jim Caldwell is, but he's more, but he's less alive. Correct.

Speaker 1 Like if you, if you had a zombie movie and you had a bunch of extras playing dead people, you wouldn't want to do Romeo Cornell. I don't think he can hold his breath for a while.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Whereas Jim Caldwell, you're like...

Speaker 1 You're checking for a poll. You call the ambulance.
You're tickling the bottom of his foot, right? Yeah. Romeo.
Yeah, okay. I got that.
I still think I like the technology. Shout out to J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt, by the way, for the report out there that he essentially was the one who got Bob O'Brien, Bill O'Brien fired, yelling at him in practice. Yeah.
Which was awesome. I love that out of J.J.

Speaker 1 because you know what? Bill O'Brien sucked. And if J.J.
Watt saved the city of Houston, he's been their franchise player for a long time now.

Speaker 1 But his legacy should be, you finally got rid of Bill O'Brien by just being like, I'm fed up, I can't take it anymore. You know how much it takes for J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt to publicly go after his coach like that in front of his teammates? Well, it's private, but publicly.

Speaker 1 But in front of his teammates. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 to be openly insubordinate at practice?

Speaker 1 Bill O'Brien must have said some fucked up stuff about JJ. Or he just was bad.
Or he was just like, I'd rather have your brother on the team. JJ's like, he's not better than me.

Speaker 1 I would imagine he just saw Bill O'Brien's face for the, I don't know,

Speaker 1 1,500th day in a row and was like, I just can't take it anymore.

Speaker 1 You just can't take it anymore. Coach, you're only 19% pleasure, 9% pain.

Speaker 1 I need you to be

Speaker 1 110% reason to remember the name. Good job, JJ.
All right, Dolphins, 49ers.

Speaker 1 Just let me know when Tua plays. That's all I got on this game.
Agreed. But this is, I think the 49ers that we expected are going to show up this weekend.
Is Jimmy G, what's his time?

Speaker 1 I think he's playing. He is.
Okay. Nice.
His timetable is right here right now. Yeah, let's go.
Colts Browns actually probably the best game of the day.

Speaker 1 You can't believe it, but Colts Browns, 3-1 versus 3-1.

Speaker 1 This is a big time.

Speaker 1 If the Browns win, they're for real.

Speaker 1 But that wouldn't make the Colts frauds.

Speaker 1 No, I think this is an are you for real game. Oh, I don't know.
I think the Colts Colts are good no matter what. This is our first Are We Sure They're Good game of the season, but just for the Browns.

Speaker 1 I think the Colts are good. I don't know if they are.
I guess they've only played.

Speaker 1 They beat the Bears by like 10 points.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we did beat them in the fourth quarter. We ran out of time.
That's true. All right, so fine.
Yeah, you're right. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 This is the Are We Sure They're Good Game of the Week of the Year.

Speaker 1 God, if the Browns win this, I just, this is another one where I really feel bad that, like,

Speaker 1 watched, watch this season happen in 2020, and like the Browns are 12-4, and the Bills are 14-2, and no fans get to get drunk in the Mooney lot or jump through tables in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 I think they'll make an exception. If the Browns go to the playoffs, if you were to ask everybody in Cleveland, like, would you accept dying?

Speaker 1 If it meant that you got to go, like, an extended playoff run, I think we said the same thing about the Bills. Yeah.
Those two franchises should be allowed to, at the very least, like, sign a waiver.

Speaker 1 Worth the risk. Yes,

Speaker 1 easily. All right, Giants, Cowboys.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised this game's not on Sunday night football. This game sucks, and they rub it in our faces every year.

Speaker 1 So thank you to whoever made the schedule for not making me look at that uniform combination for the 20th year in a row in prime time. I don't know.
The Giants are so...

Speaker 1 The Giants have scored three touchdowns this year. Three.

Speaker 1 Three. That's tough to do.
Three. So the Cowboys, if you have any pride, you killed them.
Shit pumps. It's going to be a shit pump.
Absolutely killed them.

Speaker 1 Broncos Patriots, probably not going to happen, right? When are they going to move it to? I think it's going to happen. Oh, it is? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, so they just isolated Cam and it's Cam.

Speaker 1 It's your best players, and then Belichick will probably have it too. And then

Speaker 1 probably Edelman, who else is going to get it? You guys can beat it.

Speaker 1 You guys can beat the Broncos with, like, you could take the top half of your roster and cut it off. And I think Belichick would be able to beat the Broncos.
Not if Bortles plays. That's true.

Speaker 1 I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1 Well, first half, at least. First half, Bortles.
Yeah, second Broncos. Almost said something nice about one of our friends.
Almost.

Speaker 1 And then you had to do that. All right, last game, Vikings, Seahawks, primetime Kirk Cousins.
Easy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fun fact. You know how we talked to DK about him being tied with Stefan Diggs for the lead league and reception yards? Yep.
He would have had that one if he had scored the touchdown.

Speaker 1 He's tied with Stephon Diggs. The person who punched the ball out on the one-yard line, Stephon Diggs' little brother.
Yes. How about that? Yes, that is fun.
That's fun. Thicker than water.

Speaker 1 Circle of love. Family.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's go through our picks real quick. Why don't you, Hank, why don't you just say all four and then PFT and then I'll say mine? Falcons are my favorite.
Okay. Eagles are my underdog.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Over in Saints, Chargers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Under in Jacks, Texans. You can say okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a Monday night game, so.

Speaker 1 So?

Speaker 1 We usually don't do the Monday night games. That's why I didn't say that.
We've only been doing the show.

Speaker 1 I could tell something was up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Give me the over in

Speaker 1 Vegas Chiefs then. Love it.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. My favorite.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hurricane Delta? No.

Speaker 1 Will that be up in Kansas City by then? I think it's going to be up. I don't think hurricanes go that far north.
Well, the storm still just keeps going. It's just rain.

Speaker 1 It will be a hurricane. It becomes lesser rain.
It's more of a troppy storm. Delta.
Hurricane Echo.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go favorite Houston minus six. Also, bonus favorite New Orleans

Speaker 1 because of the October. I like that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't need money now. No, we don't need money now.

Speaker 1 Put that on the board. That's on mine.
That's on my face. I'll take that, too.
Okay, Big Cat, you've got it. You want it?

Speaker 1 My underdog is Browns. Okay.
And my logic for this goes no further than I like home dogs. Yeah.
I love home dogs. Even though home feel doesn't matter.
I don't care. I like home dogs.

Speaker 1 It's value. It's a value pick, Big Cat.
Thank you for saying that, Big Cat. The trends.

Speaker 1 My over is Philly Pittsburgh, 44.5, taking the over on that one. And my under is Cardinals Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah. 47.
I like that. That one to me, that seems too easy.
I'm scared how much I like that one.

Speaker 1 But that's a sign of a good relationship. You really like an under.

Speaker 1 It's always easy. I'm really, like, I, sparks are flying between me and Cardinals Jets.

Speaker 1 Might be coming on too strong. I'm going to take the Panthers plus two.
Respect Teddy Bridgewater. Okay.
The over and the Chiefs Raiders. Yeah, I'm going against you.

Speaker 1 The Over and the Chiefs Raiders.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm just going to die on like I sometimes I'll make bets that I'll live with being wrong, just being like, well, now I can just cross you off as not a real team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If the Cowboys don't cover the nine and a half against the Giants, I'm just going to cross them off as not a real team. So it's like a statement game.

Speaker 1 You either tell me that you're real or not, but otherwise I'm moving on.

Speaker 1 And then I'll take the under in Dolphins 49ers. And then I have my can't lose parlay.
You guys ready for it? Hit me. It's not going to lose.

Speaker 1 Last week was a setback. Last week was a setback, but that's okay because

Speaker 1 I went and I got my system right, the models, everything. All right, here we go.
What does the data tell you?

Speaker 1 Do you want me to start with the team that's least likely to win or most likely to win? But

Speaker 1 it can't lose. Right.
So how would you have a team that is least likely to win? Well, there's some that are closer to the can't-lose border. That's the can't-not-lose

Speaker 1 bet. All right.
Cowboys, they're going to win. Niners, they're going to win.
Hank, you following me yet? No. You don't like it? No.

Speaker 1 You're the ombudsman for the can't lose parlay. I have not said anything.
The Chiefs?

Speaker 1 Didn't say okay.

Speaker 1 He's losing. That's good.
You're good. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're picking just, I mean. Yeah, well, that's the can't lose.

Speaker 1 What did you not understand the can't hang?

Speaker 1 Did Hank just uncover the

Speaker 1 modeling behind the can't lose parlay is taking super

Speaker 1 favors all the time?

Speaker 1 Steelers.

Speaker 1 That's where it ends. Okay.
And then the Seahawks. Little night game.
Plus 270. Plus 270 boosted on the Barstool Sportsbook app.
I think it's like around 210. It's 214.

Speaker 1 I plugged it in. But

Speaker 1 it's boosted too. Boosted.
No, no. Oh, you're telling me what the real one is? There we go.
Okay, good. Good fact check.
Good fact check.

Speaker 1 All right, so 214 regularly, 270, if you want to bet it on the barstool sportsbook app under exclusives, it cannot lose. Billy likes it.
Billy, what's your

Speaker 1 parlay kid?

Speaker 1 Billy's the parlay kid.

Speaker 1 If it is lost, it lost last weekend, but if you had taken the Friends of the Program parlay, which won't be a money. Which Hank will never do.

Speaker 1 Talk.

Speaker 1 I know you're looking at them when you talk.

Speaker 1 But you've got to talk into the microphone. Into the mic.
Yep. Anyway, so

Speaker 1 this week's Friends of the Program parlay is this is all money line. Bengals, Browns, Jaguars, Rams, Niners.

Speaker 1 Money line? All money line. Billy, this is what happens.

Speaker 1 The Bengals pick, you might want to change from a money line to a parliament.

Speaker 1 That's where you lose.

Speaker 1 Make it easy.

Speaker 1 It's plus $5,695 on the Barcelona sports book. I plugged it in.
Okay. So, wait, how much? $10?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you gamble $20,

Speaker 1 you make like $2,500. So you can't get it.
That's higher for life. No, $1,200, actually.
Billy,

Speaker 1 do the math again. There's no way that's $1,200.
No.

Speaker 1 If you do all money line on those teams.

Speaker 1 Only $1,200? And you put $20 in? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's more than that. Anyway.

Speaker 1 Listen. Whatever it is.
The end result.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the end result

Speaker 1 doesn't matter. I'm like, got some backup parlays.
I realized that

Speaker 1 six different parlays and different teams. Yeah, you parlay every team.
There's no way you can lose. It actually can't lose.
That's like hitting the all-button in horse racing.

Speaker 1 But make sure you do it responsibly. Okay.

Speaker 1 Responsible gambling, 1-800 gambler. If you think you got a problem and you want to talk to someone, that's serious.
That's dead serious. This should be entertainment.
This is fun.

Speaker 1 This should not be betting more than you have. $20? That sounds like a fun Sunday.
Parlays

Speaker 1 bet a little, win a lot. Right.
Good point. Here we go.
Sponsor backline. Sounds like a Kenny Chesney something.
Billy figured it out. Can you imagine doing it the other way around?

Speaker 1 You'd have to be an idiot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Can't lose parlay. Yeah.
That's what that is. Yeah.
Bitch. I mean, can't lose parlays two and two this year, plus money.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 I think it's awesome that Hank just figured out what the can't lose parlay is usually based around. Yes.
What's not usually?

Speaker 1 Why Why are you taking not that? Well, this slate's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 I had to do five teams.

Speaker 1 All right, let's, before we get to our interviews, so we have Warren Sharp, football with Warren Sharp come up, and then we have an awesome, awesome interview with Bethany Frankl.

Speaker 1 If you don't know who she is, if you don't watch Housewives, you don't know skinny girl Margarita, you should listen to this interview because we love her. She's got some spice.
She's got a little

Speaker 1 spice, little like, doesn't take shit. You want to say love her, but you would say.
Arrogance. No, I was going to say arrogance, but it's like funny arrogance.

Speaker 1 Like, I love that type of arrogance because she's self-aware and arrogant, but it's like an endearing. I love her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like she's on your Mount Rushmore with people that I've seen you get actually. I was very excited.
Very exciting. And she delivered.
She was, she delivered.

Speaker 1 Bottom line, she's just cool. She's a cool ass chick.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's do fantasy fathers. Fantasy fathers.
Ready?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Hey, fellas. What's up? It's Joseph O'Shea.
How's it hanging? My stardom this week is raking.

Speaker 1 Ruin your teenage kids' weekend by telling them they have to rake leaves for four hours before they can do anything else. That's when you get a little fun time with mama.

Speaker 1 You want to make sure you rake multiple times while there's still some leaves on the tree so that you can do it again in two weeks. Do me a favor, support.
Rake in the same direction the whole time.

Speaker 1 Don't mess up my long time. Make sure you use the right trash bags.

Speaker 1 They won't pick them up otherwise. My sit-in this week is Mark Andrews.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's touchdown dependent, and if he doesn't get any red zone looks, he's not going to get any points on your team if it's a PPR league. That's true.
Can't score points if you don't get the ball.

Speaker 1 And my sleeper is snowflakes. Not the Libby McLibbs, the emoji.

Speaker 1 Quavo showed the world that he got his girlfriend by just sending a snowflake emoji in her DMs, and that's what started their relationship.

Speaker 1 So just shoot the snowflake out on Tinder or your text message this weekend, and

Speaker 1 it's sure to work. There's no difference between you and Quavo.
Only DMs I slide into is dishwasher maintenance guy. Make sure that thing is humming in time for the holidays.

Speaker 1 What's up, guys? How are you guys doing today? Good. Hi, good.
I'm Dad. Tired.
Never enough sleep, you know. I like telling dad jokes.
You know, sometimes he laughs.

Speaker 1 I'm starting Bug Spray this weekend. It's taking a candlemaking masterclass in the great courses.
You can find them right there on Google. You can get books at the library as well.

Speaker 1 It's important to keep the bugs away in the fall. They transmit diseases.
Got to be safe.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting Kirk Cousins. The game's starting too late at night for me.
I'm not going to stay up and watch it.

Speaker 1 Also, it's just Kirk Cousins prime time. He likes to stick like a bitch.
He does.

Speaker 1 Not a great griller, you know? I don't say the B-word. It's the B-word.
Yeah. Sometimes I like to sprinkle a little seasoning salt on one side.
That way, it's a little treat.

Speaker 1 I've got to watch my blood pressure and the sodium gets at me.

Speaker 1 They're throwing fish around. In Seattle, I always like that little montage.
Yep.

Speaker 1 You know what they call a fish with no eye?

Speaker 1 A fish. Dinner.
Nice. A fish is what they call a dinner.
That's a fish. You know what they call a deer with no eyes? I have no idea.
There you go. Good job, Dad.
Usually let me say it.

Speaker 1 I'm taking the sleeper is taking the stairs. It's good exercise.
There we go. My mother doesn't trust the stairs.
She says it's because they're always up to something.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Anywho, I'm tired. Hi, tired.
I'm dad. All right.

Speaker 1 It's Dan Katz. This whole thing feels a little too on the nose for being a dad, especially when PFT said the game was starting too late after I said that on Wednesday's show.
A little tip of the cat.

Speaker 1 My stardom this week is the thermostat. Because guess what? It's getting cooler out there.

Speaker 1 Probably going to have the women in your household try to hit that heat. Don't let them do it.
Make sure that they get a blanket or a sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 They got to make sure that that living room stays nice and frosty all winter long. Yeah.
Layer up, put on some socks. I'm not paying for the heat.
Not those regular flimsy socks they make nowadays.

Speaker 1 Go get yourself.

Speaker 1 Put the wool ones. But be careful on the hardwood floors.
We've got a great pair of mittens in the closet. Yes.
Yes. Not heating up the whole neighborhood.

Speaker 1 My sitem is going to be Ben Rothlisberger. Ben Rothlisberger watches too much porn.
I actually had that problem too. I had a little addiction with Mr.
Skin back in the day. Got a lot of viruses.

Speaker 1 Haven't used a computer since. So if you're looking to email me, it will not work.
But you can hit me up at my Hotmail account.

Speaker 1 My sleeper. Is that M-A-L-E? Yes.
Dad vibes. Yes.
Nice. My sleeper is going to be Dad Naps.
Take those Dadnaps. Make sure you take little cat naps all throughout the day.

Speaker 1 Just turn on the TV, turn on anything, and you'll probably fall asleep almost instantly. And remember, don't wake daddy.
You know what? I missed the masters this year, and I haven't caught up since.

Speaker 1 That was the day that I stayed on schedule for the rest of the year with my masters. Speaking of which,

Speaker 1 yeah, double masters. And speaking of which, thank you for bringing that up.
You will catch up this weekend. It is daylight savings.
So make sure you change those clocks on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 Do not make that mistake. otherwise you might show up late forward forward please please do it

Speaker 1 hi I'm John Thurston

Speaker 1 I'm a father for hey John my stardom is getting kicked out of your son's pop warner games because that is you know you get a little too riled up on the sideline yell at your son's offensive coordinator tell him that he sucks and you should get give me my son the ball more you know you started over him in high school he should be listening to you exactly My sit-em is power tools.

Speaker 1 Power tools are dangerous. You should make your kids build things with their hands and use their youthful vigor while they can.
And it really builds character. Plus, they're dangerous.

Speaker 1 My sleeper is Kirk Cousin because he's a guy that goes to church every Sunday. So this Sunday...
He's a very great guy. Great guy.
This Sunday. He's just like you.

Speaker 1 He's going to get his

Speaker 1 time. Yeah.
He's your dad. He's my dad.
He's your dad. He's your dad.
Anyway, make sure to tell your kids about R. Kelly.
He's a very bad man.

Speaker 1 And sometimes. Did you Google it? Yes, I Googled it.
You Googled it after Wednesday's show? Yep. Good job, Billy.
Don't listen to that one out. A little late.
Really bad. That's okay.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we told you it was really bad.

Speaker 1 We are really aware.

Speaker 1 It was really bad. It was really bad.
We are the premier R. Kelly Awareness podcast.
Yes. Disavowing this.
It's just like three years too late.

Speaker 1 I don't recall Bill Simmons ever disavowing R. Kelly, do you? Better late than never.
That's what we say when it comes to R. Kelly awareness.
Yep. Right?

Speaker 1 We're educating the youth one intern at a time. Well, there's probably someone who like slept through the entire year of 2018.
Yeah, because R. Kelly drugged them.

Speaker 1 And they're just waking up and now they're listening to this show. They're like, we did what? Yep.
R. Kelly.

Speaker 1 What a shitty year. That would be an awful timing if you slept all the way through 2018, which was objectively a pretty kick-ass year.
Was it? And then you probably, it wasn't this year. It's 2020.

Speaker 1 I'm going to talk about it. Hey, guys.

Speaker 1 Can't wait for 2020 to end. All of our problems are going to go away.

Speaker 1 January 1st, 2021. New beginnings.
All right, let's get to our interviews. We got Warren Sharp first, and then we're going to have Bethany Frankel right after.

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Okay, here he is. Warren Sharp.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Warren Sharp. You can find him on Twitter.
He's got a podcast. Now, what's the name of the podcast? Sharp Report?

Speaker 4 Sharp Angles Podcast. I'm also on the Ringer podcast stuff, and I'm also doing some stuff for NBC now.

Speaker 1 Do you really, like, outside of the fact that you're good at your job, like, having the last name Sharp, the possibilities are endless for, you know, I mean, wait, is your, is that a Hollywood thing?

Speaker 1 Are you like. Did you change your name to Sharp? Did you change your name to Sharp?

Speaker 4 No. Luckily, no.

Speaker 1 How did that work, man? That's crazy. All right.
I don't know why we started that way. But

Speaker 1 the great white sharp. Ooh, I like that.
Yeah. That's good.
That's good. All right.
You could have done that. All right.
So Warren is here. You know, we're four games into the NFL season.

Speaker 1 We thought it'd be a great time to catch up.

Speaker 1 We did a little preview before the season started. So let's catch up.

Speaker 1 Where should we start? You know what? Can we actually just start with the Bears and can you just tell me that everything's going to be okay?

Speaker 1 Now, we're going to run this on Friday after Thursday night. So just want that disclaimer so that if things don't look okay, you don't look dumb.
But what is their problem and is it fixable?

Speaker 4 It is 100% fixable. Look, their defense is fine.
I don't have a problem with the Bears' defense. Let's talk about the offense.
Specifically, let's talk about this change to Nick Foles.

Speaker 4 I know that Nick Foles,

Speaker 4 you know, I know you were defending Mitchell Trubisky, and I don't know what your take was on Nick Foles coming, but obviously our expectations were that Nick Foles was going to be a better performing quarterback than Mitchell Trubisky.

Speaker 4 That's why they went out and got him in the first place. And my thought was.

Speaker 4 Had we had a full offseason, he may have been the weak one starter. I know your position was it's easy to turn to Nick midseason.
So regardless, that's what they did.

Speaker 4 And they're in a good position here, but they're screwing things up by the way that they're calling plays. And, you know, I watched the first game, obviously, against the Colts.

Speaker 4 And some of this stuff is pretty shocking and mind-numbing. So first of all, let's think about this.
On early down, so we're talking first and second down in the first half of games.

Speaker 4 When Mitchell Trubisky was the quarterback for the first three games, they were basically 50-50, run pass split. They were just...
50-50, flip a coin. That's what they would do on early downs.

Speaker 4 Now, most teams are going to pass the ball a little bit more because it's more efficient to do, but they weren't.

Speaker 4 Now you get Nick Foles in here, and you're going up against the number five best run defense in the league in terms of the Indianapolis Colts. You would think that you have confidence in Nick Foles.

Speaker 4 You're going to be passing the ball more. But what they ended up doing was going as close to a 50-50 split as possible without landing on 50-50.

Speaker 4 If they had called one more run play, they would have been at 50-50 split.

Speaker 4 They almost did the same exact stuff that they did with Mitchell Trubisky, but the results were dramatically different.

Speaker 4 When they were passing the ball they were averaging 8.9 yards per attempt when they ran the ball they were down at 1.5 yards per carry which is the lowest in the nfl and yet they're still running the ball 50 of the time basically against that colts in the first half so they absolutely have to shift to a more pass heavy approach when they stay conservative like they've been doing running the ball too much especially against a good run defense it puts nick foles in these obvious third and pass situations which are not beneficial to to him.

Speaker 4 And then the last point, and

Speaker 4 you maybe noticed this during that game, was this methodical. plodding, slow-paced offense.
They were the slowest offense of any team in the NFL in week four.

Speaker 4 They averaged over 33 seconds between snaps in the first half of the game. It allowed Nick Foles to get into zero rhythm whatsoever offensively.

Speaker 4 If it's not working by going slow, change things up, Matt Nagy. Go fast for a series or two.
See if that's going to jumpstart this passing attack a little bit.

Speaker 4 So they really need to improve their performance from both a play calling standpoint, from a play sequencing standpoint, and just from a play rate standpoint.

Speaker 4 And I think they will get a higher stealing out of Nick Foles in this offense.

Speaker 1 So one follow-up question, this doesn't have to be specifically about the Bears, but when it comes to running the football and the run-pass split that you talked about, and let's say a team is not running the ball well, well, but they keep running it.

Speaker 1 Do you think,

Speaker 1 you know, from an analytical standpoint, you're probably saying stop running the ball if you're only running it for a yard pop.

Speaker 1 But from like the human element of it, I do think there's a benefit when you have your offensive lineman be able to run block first pass block.

Speaker 1 You can't expect your offensive lineman to pass block for the entire game and go backwards the entire game.

Speaker 1 I think that kind of takes the strength away from them and they slowly but surely will will like you know it just sucks going backwards all game like that so do you think there's any human element of that where committing to the run even if it doesn't work helps your offensive lineman stay engaged be able to move forward every now and then instead of constantly going back in pass protection

Speaker 1 well

Speaker 4 I don't think committing to the run is the right way to do it. I definitely don't think teams, if they're bad at running the ball, should commit to the run.

Speaker 4 I don't think very many teams in general should. But in terms of using enough of a balance to keep the linemen engaged, I think is what you're getting to.

Speaker 4 I still think, look, if we just look at the pure numbers here, league-wide this year on first downs in the first half of games. So this is what our offensive coordinator can control here.

Speaker 4 Passes are averaging 8.3 yards per attempt and runs are only averaging 4.4 yards per carry. So we're almost, but not quite double the average yardage on pass plays.

Speaker 4 I think the better strategy is, and I've seen some coaches around the league over over the years not not specifically this year i haven't read a lot about it but teaching offensive linemen to be engaging and aggressive with their pass protection so to still be attacking even though they're using pass pro techniques even though they're dropping back to pass protect you have to attack when you're doing that because you are right there is a human element where these linemen don't want to just keep being on their heels getting beat by the pass rushers.

Speaker 4 You want to try to attack those guys. And I think there's a balance.
You don't want to be 100% pass.

Speaker 4 But I would not advise if you're struggling to run the ball, the answer is not run the ball more to get these guys more engaged.

Speaker 4 The answer is teach these guys to pass protect with aggression and take joy in trying to get some pancake blocks and some other things like that when the time is right.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at this graphic because I've seen it pulled up a few times this season, and it's something that you talk about a lot. We've talked about a lot with you.

Speaker 1 The neutral situation pass rates, right? So, in other words, like how often is a team passing the ball on first down, first and second down?

Speaker 1 You know, traditionally, you see an offense like back in the 80s and 70s, run, run, pass. And still, to this very day, with a lot of offenses, they just, you know, they schedule themselves.

Speaker 1 We're going to run the ball in first down every time, pick up two yards, run it again, pick up another two yards, and then try to pass for seven yards on third down, which, as you've pointed out, doesn't really work anymore.

Speaker 1 But the top five teams are the Seahawks, the Chiefs, the Packers, the Cardinals, and the Bills in passing on first down. Is it just that simple?

Speaker 1 Like, if you have all things being equal, a good offense or a decent,

Speaker 1 let's say, like an average offense, is it that simple to improve your output by saying, okay, we're going to pass the ball 20% more often on first down?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you would be surprised. So, if you look at those numbers, and I'm not sure the exact ones that you're looking at, but from

Speaker 4 the general numbers, like if you just look at first three quarters of the game, first down plays, the teams that are like the team that's the most pass-heavy is in the low 60% range.

Speaker 4 And the team that's like the NFL average is around 49% pass.

Speaker 4 And so the reality is what I've told coaches before that have like play callers that work with coaches that are a little bit more old school run-based, you know, defense first, let's control the ball and keep it away from the opponent type philosophy is all you really have to do here is throw one more pass out of 10 plays, right?

Speaker 4 You'll move from 50% up to 60%. You'll move from a league average up to near the top of the league.
And if you think about it like that, it's really not that difficult.

Speaker 4 Just out of 10 plays on 10 first downs, just throw one more pass. But it really does make a difference

Speaker 4 because those passes gain more yards on average and will save you from going into third downs more often.

Speaker 4 So it absolutely can be very beneficial simply by just throwing the ball one more time out of 10 plays.

Speaker 4 The difference that you get from that, and we've seen some teams move even more beyond that, like a team like the Seattle Seahawks moving to a team that was very conservative a couple of years ago, a little bit more neutral last year, to now very aggressive.

Speaker 4 You mentioned top five in terms of pass rate. Definitely, definitely very beneficial.
Keeps the team on schedule, keeps them out of third downs.

Speaker 4 And the other thing that I've noticed this year from some teams that I haven't seen as much of it in the past is teams on first down, the way that they're throwing these passes,

Speaker 4 they're doing it more often. They're throwing more often, but they're throwing them a little bit shorter so that they ensure that they're catching the ball and gaining yards.

Speaker 4 They're not going down the field as often on first down. They're throwing more conservative passes on first down as sort of like extensions of the run game.

Speaker 4 And by doing so, they're creating a higher floor of what these passes are going to do.

Speaker 4 And then, in addition to that, what they decide to do on second down is they throw the ball well beyond the sticks.

Speaker 4 So on second down, instead of the same type of conservative approach, just trying to maintain that, they decide to go beyond the sticks and they're practicing third down avoidance.

Speaker 4 We want to be conservative on first down and then we want to skip third down. And

Speaker 4 they're passing more than they're running and they're structuring their plays in

Speaker 4 that sense. And it's definitely making dividends out on the field.
We see how much scoring is up this year.

Speaker 1 So I want to talk about scoring. I had another question, though, about the first four games.
Give me a team, give the people a team both ways.

Speaker 1 So, a team that their record, they're a little worse than what their record says. You can't say the Bears.

Speaker 1 And then give me a team that they're better than what their record says. Can we call the teams that are playing above, like ahead of their skis? Can we call them fool's gold?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love the winner now to say it. Sure, we'll show you your fool's gold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then give me the team that you're saying, oh, that team's one and three or two and two, but really they're a lot better than that. And it will all kind of even out once the schedule changes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think the team, I think a team that's easy to say is better than what the record is is the Philadelphia Eagles because of how injuries have derailed them and the performance of Carson Wentz thus far in the season.

Speaker 4 This is definitely when they get their offensive lineman back healthy. I mean, he played last game without his top three wide receivers.

Speaker 4 There's not many teams that are going to be able to go into San Francisco.

Speaker 4 And we've talked about this on your show before about the circadian rhythm and how difficult it is for an East Coast team to play out on the West Coast in prime time.

Speaker 4 That home team out on the West Coast has the body clock advantage, particularly in the second half. And the Eagles were still able to get the job done with no receivers.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's throwing the ball to guys that literally Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels had no clue who these players were.

Speaker 4 They've never read their names before that very night when they had to study up on who is actually going to be out on the field.

Speaker 4 So I think they're a team that's definitely better than what the record is.

Speaker 4 Once they get healthier and once Carson settles into this offense, keep in mind, you know, this coaching staff is sort of evolving.

Speaker 4 They're adding some new thought processes to that coaching staff from a passing perspective. So it is going to take a little bit of time and repetition.
So I'd say they're better.

Speaker 4 I'd say a team that's worse than what the record is. This one, to me, at least is pretty easy too.
It's the Tennessee Titans. This is not a team that is undefeated 3-0 in the NFL.

Speaker 4 They're a team that barely was able to come back and and beat the Denver Broncos, beat the Minnesota Vikings. This is a team that obviously now is being ravaged by some COVID situations.

Speaker 4 I don't know what their status is for the next few games. They might not even play this game this week.
And

Speaker 4 so I don't think that this team is as good as what their record indicates right now.

Speaker 1 Interesting. So last time you were on, we talked about field goal luck.

Speaker 1 Which teams have been way too lucky when it comes to making their field goals or having their opponents miss as as opposed to the teams that are the other way around that might have some field goal luck turnaround a little bit on them in the next quarter of the season.

Speaker 4 So that's a great question, and I should have been better prepared for that.

Speaker 4 But I have to take the blame on this one. I can't pull up the answers fast enough for you on that, but I will send you PFD a report on that.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 I will be expecting that report. Follow-up report.
Also, do you have a landline? I do have a landline. Yes.
That is a power move. Like, I heard the phone ringing.

Speaker 1 You know that that guy does business if he's getting calls on an old school landline. Yes.
That is powerful.

Speaker 4 I have multiple cell phones plus a landline.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 nice flex. Selling drugs.
Let's talk about the overs. The overs.

Speaker 1 There's a theory that it's a lot less holding calls, which makes sense.

Speaker 1 I think the lack of holding calls on offense have accounted for a point a game.

Speaker 1 What else is going on, and when can we expect it to kind of turn back on us, which it actually kind of already has, because I think the overs on kickoff, the kickoff, like the line at the kickoff, have gone 0-7 in the last seven games played.

Speaker 1 So the afternoon slate and then the two Monday games.

Speaker 4 So definitely exactly like we discussed before, thinking that there would be overs.

Speaker 4 The most overs that have hit in the last 30 years at least could have been before that, but I don't have the data back prior to that. So we are at an all-time high with overs.

Speaker 4 And you're right, the big talk of the town, everybody's just just been talking about the penalties.

Speaker 4 But the reality is most of the reason why we're seeing higher point production is on account of a handful of teams that are doing things way more efficiently and getting better production, like a team like the Buffalo Bills, like a team like the Seattle Seahawks, like a team like the Green Bay Packers, who have definitely come out the gates, you know, just on fire and now, I believe, are on a bye week.

Speaker 4 But then you also have this fourth down aggression, and we're seeing way more teams go for it on fourth down. And from a betting perspective, it makes a lot of sense because

Speaker 4 big cat, PFT, if you guys are betting on these games like I am,

Speaker 4 you know that when a team decides to go for it on fourth down, it almost always is beneficial to you because what they're not doing is punting the ball.

Speaker 4 And so if a team is at midfield and decides to punt the ball, generally speaking, you're pinning the other team back.

Speaker 4 Whereas regardless of what happens on that fourth down play, somebody's getting the ball probably close to midfield, which is a lot for less distance to travel to score points, regardless of whether it's converted fourth down or not.

Speaker 4 So, you want teams to go for it on fourth down and make it. The only downside is, you know, if they're within field goal range, you decide to bypass that and then get nothing on that play.

Speaker 4 But most of the time, going forward on fourth down absolutely results in more points.

Speaker 4 And we're seeing a lot more teams going forward on fourth down and converting those, especially on fourth and one, the conversion rate is off the chain right now.

Speaker 4 So that's why we're seeing more points. To your question, though, about whether or not we're going to continue seeing games go over the total,

Speaker 4 that's an even more interesting discussion. So, as you know, I have a computer model that helps generate what my point totals should be on these games.
And then I look to see if there's any value.

Speaker 4 And that's where I make my wagers, where I do see enough of a value. And when week four's lines came out, I saw a ton of value in betting some overs.

Speaker 4 So we went and we pasted the board on Monday morning at like 10 a.m. We banged five games overs and we moved the number between two to three points on almost all of those games.

Speaker 4 In four of the games, we moved it. In one of the game, it really didn't move that much.
And that happened to be the game that we lost. We ended up going four and one on those games.

Speaker 4 So I'm thinking, you know, we got great closing line value, which means, and this is something every sports better should strive to do, is time when you're placing your bets so that you can ensure that you get a better number than the line closes at and and that's a good way to measure am i on the right side of this bet that i do a smart thing so we we got great closing line value 2.1 points per game on average which is very difficult to do in the nfl um

Speaker 4 And we ended up having a good result. We went four and one.
So sitting here Sunday night after week four, so just a few days ago, thinking, okay, what games are these odds makers?

Speaker 4 What are they going to set their total at? We might do the same type of thing again.

Speaker 4 I looked at the board on Monday and compared it to what my numbers were Sunday night into Monday, and I saw very little value to overs this week, which means the odds makers intelligently sat here and listened to the entirety of last week, every single person in the media world talking about points being up and games going over the total.

Speaker 4 And so they decided to make a very aggressive move this week for and set the lines a lot higher than they did even last week compared to what they should be at.

Speaker 4 And so there's just not as much value across the board betting overs this week like there were the prior few weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do your spreadsheets take into account the uniforms that the teams are going to be wearing?

Speaker 4 No, I do not factor that. Have you found an angle on that for

Speaker 1 colour rush uniforms? There's always, it feels like it's always an over. Mm-hmm.
Feels like it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I really extra time after that. PFT says it feels like an over.

Speaker 1 I could have told you that the Bears, like I, if I had known they were wearing the orange uniforms, I would have told all my clients to pound the Colts.

Speaker 1 I would have.

Speaker 4 So that's not a good thing for the Bears when they orange.

Speaker 1 When they wear those oranges, I think they don't do it. I mean, I have no statistical model to back that up.
It's just a gut feel. It's the eyeball.
They just felt slower in it.

Speaker 4 Well, we could get that information to them and see if they can make some changes.

Speaker 1 When the Dolphins wear their all-tealed, that's candy-ass, and they usually lose.

Speaker 1 Facts. It might just be the Dolphins lose a lot.
Yeah, the Dolphins lose a lot. The Dolphins lose a lot.
That's the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 The Dolphins have a grand.

Speaker 4 You guys know Chan Gailey. He's a grandfather.
He's been out of of the NFL for years, and Grandpa Gailey is the one calling plays there.

Speaker 4 And this is a team, I don't know if you guys were on the Dolphins last week or not when the Seahawks played them, but they had every

Speaker 4 right to cover that game at a minimum. We were.
And this team goes down there. They had five trips down inside, I think, to the 11, the 11, the 24, the 25, and the 27.

Speaker 4 And they kick field goals on every single one of those trips

Speaker 4 on five field goals. You are not going to beat Russell Wilson in doing that.
Chan Gailey is using an old school philosophy and an old school book to how to play the NFL.

Speaker 4 And Brian Schottenheimer has moved to the new school book. They're going for it on fourth down.
They're aggressively throwing the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 And so a team that's playing like that, you're not going to beat them playing conservatively and kicking these field goals. You have to try to change your stripes a little bit.

Speaker 4 And I'm not sure if Grandpa Gailey is going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 They need to go to Tua anyway. What about turnover luck? Have you been monitoring that?

Speaker 4 I have been monitoring it.

Speaker 4 Again, it's going to have to be a report because i don't have the we'll take that offline just that it's real we'll take grant turnover luck is real right it's a hundred per turnover luck is a hundred percent real it's it's primarily primarily fumble luck is definitely a key factor because when that ball is out there's a an expectation that one side of the ball is going to recover it slightly more than the other but you definitely have certain teams based upon where the turnover is and how many guys they happen to have around the ball that just fall on it more often and those things tend to regress to the mean across the board.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and also just and like returning turnovers i remember like the bears i think it was like eight years ago they started seven and one i want to say and it was every game they returned a pick six or a fumble score and everyone was like i don't think this can last and of course it didn't and everything fell apart because as soon as you don't get those points it doesn't look the same yeah that was the peanut punch was in that era i think and and they absolutely were doing a great job with that and this is one of the things we've talked about on your show before i would absolutely be coaching my team especially on defense when we get that takeaway you have to try to figure out a way to block those offensive players you got 300 plus pound offensive linemen only a couple fast guys on the football field at that point we need to be scoring these plays it's the easiest time to score points in the entire game um and so that's just a paramount importance.

Speaker 4 The Bears definitely practiced that in those years with your middle linebacker, what is his name, number 50, Brian Erlacher and other and Lance Briggs. I mean, that was the

Speaker 1 name of those guys. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 And so they were definitely doing that.

Speaker 1 There are certain guys, though, where the turnover luck eventually just becomes a turnover habit.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, we joke around about Tyron Matthew and saying, oh, that guy's always around the football. He's got a nose for the football.
He actually kind of does. He's a ball hawk.

Speaker 1 Yes. Just saying somebody's a ballhawk.
Sometimes you're saying that about a player that had a great season where they got, you know, six, seven interceptions and they'll never have that again.

Speaker 1 With Matthew, it's like, he just, he always is where the ball bounces.

Speaker 4 i don't know what it is about him but he does have like a sixth sense i don't know if it's even possible to quantify but there's surely there has to be like some element of skill to always be around the ball all the time well people that tend to watch a lot of film understand the habits that the other team is going to use so defenders that seem to be around the ball a lot are defenders that typically have watched a lot of film and understand where the ball is going to come and then on that interception where edelman tipped it in the monday night game you could definitely see like if if he just lowered his head and went for a tackle he doesn't get the ball but he understands like this is just a swing pass um it's not going to gain very many yards anyways let me just play back a little bit and see what happens here and sure enough and edelman has the highest drop rate in the nfl over the last couple of years so he probably knew that and he just knew that the outcome of the play if he ran in for a tackle is not really going to minimize the yards any more than if he just stood there and lets him gain extra yard.

Speaker 4 It's not going to, it's not a play that's going to be very productive. and he made the smart read on it.
So

Speaker 4 he is, Tyron Matthew is super smart.

Speaker 1 I've got kind of an open-ended question here, but I think it's very important. It's one that a lot of people are asking.
So I'm just going to let you cook on it.

Speaker 1 The Dallas Cowboys,

Speaker 1 what the fuck?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Look, I know that everybody is mad at Mike Nolan, and Mike Nolan certainly potentially got that job just as a favor. And, you know, you could read into those innuendos if you want to.

Speaker 4 they were not playing very well they aren't playing aggressively they do not appear to be trying hard on that side of the football it's a defensive thing more than it's an offensive thing now that being said the offense is out of rhythm we saw against atlanta one of the reasons why we thought they were a little bit out of rhythm was because well they were trying all these fake punts and they were trying these really aggressive strategies and that led to some easy points from the atlanta falcons

Speaker 4 and gave up their opportunity to score points when they're making plays like that. So maybe that's not really the issue.
Maybe the issue is just these decision making from the coaching staff.

Speaker 4 But as we come to find, it's going to take a little bit more work from Mike McCarthy to figure out how to control this offense.

Speaker 4 And, you know, look, the guy openly lied on his job application to Jerry Jones. He completely admitted to the fact.
He goes in and says, I watched every play. I watched the film.

Speaker 4 I studied the analytics in the offseason. Then his opening press conference, he comes back and says, by the way, I lied about all of that.
I just wanted to get the job coaching the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 So that's a very bad start. And now we're seeing that maybe this guy was just chilling, you know, Cipron Daiquiris down somewhere and not really paying close attention to what he needed to.

Speaker 4 I think they're going to get back on track. One of the biggest issues is going to be their schedule.
It gets a lot easier.

Speaker 4 They've played some ridiculously difficult offenses so far this season, which makes any defense look bad. And they've had injuries along the offensive line.

Speaker 4 They've had some players missing on the defensive side of the football. So

Speaker 4 I'm not sitting here with this this team having a bad record right now, being in second place in the NFC East

Speaker 4 and selling them and writing them off right now. I still think they're going to be able to get things back on track, but they absolutely must get better effort from their defensive players.

Speaker 4 They've got to get better strategies on that side of the ball and offensively.

Speaker 1 So the

Speaker 1 Washington football team pulling the plug on Dwayne Haskins, kind of bizarre because they're also, like I saw that he wasn't even taking snaps.

Speaker 1 Two-part question. One, was it too early to pull the plug on Dwayne Haskins from what you saw? And two,

Speaker 1 what is generally speaking, there's no obviously rule of thumb here, but what is generally speaking, the way you analyze quarterbacks, like how many games do you need to see out of them before you can be like, all right, this is what this guy is.

Speaker 1 I know what he is. It's going to be about this, and we can make a decision based off that?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and that second question is very important because that's the thing that Scott Turner and and Ron Rivera were not able to see from Haskins because they had no preseason work with the guy.

Speaker 4 So it's one thing seeing him in practice throwing passes against air, but it's another thing actually seeing him there in the games.

Speaker 4 And I think the bigger issue for Dwayne Haskins is simply, was he responding to the coaching? Because these guys have no allegiance to Dwayne Haskins. They didn't draft him.

Speaker 4 They want to build a winning program. And more importantly than just getting wins out on the football field, you know from how Ron Rivera wants to build a culture there.

Speaker 4 It's about doing what the coaches are asking you to do and having some accountability to that. And from what I'm seeing and hearing, Dwayne Haskins was not able to respond to the coaching.

Speaker 4 Like they were asking him to make reads in a certain manner. They were asking him to get the ball out to these places.
They were asking him to keep his eyes down the field.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of different things that they're asking him to do that week after week he was failing to do in the games.

Speaker 4 And at some point, they're like, I don't know if this guy's ever going to quote unquote get it. Like, is this guy going to get it? Can he respond to what we're asking him to do?

Speaker 4 I think that's more important than his actual execution. Because if you look at that game against the Baltimore Ravens, I mean, he throws for over 300 yards.

Speaker 4 And actually, there's an interesting story behind that game.

Speaker 4 Without getting too detailed, like there was a impression and expectation that there was a good chance he's going to get benched at halftime.

Speaker 4 And so

Speaker 4 there are a lot of props that you can bet on a quarterback.

Speaker 4 And so you can bet under completions and under passing attempts and under yards and under touchdowns and every which way you can bet Dwayne Haskins unders, especially good props if you think he could get benched, right?

Speaker 4 Sat down at halftime. And so a lot of those props are being bet towards the under.
And he looks like crap in the first half. His first four drives are punt, turnover, punt, missed field goal.

Speaker 4 Now, the turnover wasn't his fault, but regardless, they have zero points on the board. They're losing 14 to nothing.

Speaker 4 And they've got one more drive left in that half.

Speaker 4 And I'm fully convinced that if he does not go down the field 75 yards and score a touchdown, which he ends up doing, he ends up getting benched at halftime and all those props cash.

Speaker 4 But he goes down the field, scores that touchdown, gets to play the rest of the game, ends up going over on all of his props, and now, and the team decides to pull the plug the next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How does it make sense that Ron Rivera is going to have this sort of a leash on Dwayne Haskins, but the Washington football team did not make an effort to bring Cam Newton up there?

Speaker 4 I guess they had to feel like Cam wasn't fully healthy. That could be my only expectation.

Speaker 4 If they thought that Cam wasn't fully healthy or the only other

Speaker 4 thought process that they could have is they didn't want to rebuild from the ground up with a guy like Cam there.

Speaker 4 Maybe they didn't view, maybe they viewed Cam, oh, he could be healthy for this year, right? But how's that going to work with Dwayne Haskins, who's already on our roster?

Speaker 4 We don't know if we like Haskins or not. We have to play him in order to see that.

Speaker 4 Will Cam be, and this is one thing I don't necessarily love about some teams, and I'm not inside building, so I don't know, maybe this is a real thing, but the thought process that like a really good quarterback is going to mess up the locker room chemistry if we're going to sign him with the impression and he knows it that he's not going to be starting and he he may get a shot, but it's not going to be now, like, how could that still not work?

Speaker 4 How could we not find a world in which Cam wouldn't screw up the chemistry of that locker room?

Speaker 4 But I mean, for whatever reason, they just felt like him being there was not going to be conducive to finding out what they had in Dwayne Haskins.

Speaker 4 And they were optimistic that Dwayne Haskins could be something.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty confident that if they knew that Haskins was nowhere near close to being the start of this franchise, there would have been a bigger emphasis on bringing Cam in, but I do think that there is a school of thought that Cam, you might get a year or two or three out of Cam, but the injuries and the way he plays football might compound upon one another, such that he's not your long-term answer at quarterback.

Speaker 4 And if they don't end up liking Haskins, they're fine with losing games. Their roster is not great overall.
They want to get that number one overall quarterback.

Speaker 4 And what we've seen in New England, like Cam can come in and win games.

Speaker 1 I find the Cam revisionist history so fucking lazy, though, because people are forgetting, one, he was injured.

Speaker 1 Two, we're in a pandemic, so you can't have, you know, like you can't bring him into the facility.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could probably have a doctor go look at him, but you know how paranoid and weird NFL teams are. They're not going to take, they have to have their doctor look at someone.

Speaker 1 And three, I think Cam, and rightfully so by Cam's in Cam's defense, is he wasn't going to go and compete for a job. I don't think he was ever competing against Jared Stiddam.

Speaker 1 I think that was a Belichick ruse, but he wasn't going to go. Like if the Washington football team said, hey, Cam, you can come.
We're not going to totally give up on Dwayne Haskins yet.

Speaker 1 So you have to compete for a job. Cam was like, I'm an MVP.
I'm not competing for a job. Same with Chicago.
Like, Cam had a right to say that.

Speaker 1 So this revisionist history that all these teams passed on Cam, I just don't buy it. I think Cam probably was like, I'm a starter.

Speaker 1 I'll go somewhere and prove it, but I'm not going to go compete against someone and not be guaranteed a starter. I think it's a little bit different.

Speaker 1 I do think that you can't say that about like 32 teams, obviously. But with Ron Rivera and bringing up the entire offensive coaching staff, I think that

Speaker 1 if they would know more than anybody else what Cam was like, what his present condition was like, if they didn't bring him in, I totally got that. I didn't want to bring Cam to D.C.

Speaker 1 for just those reasons that we talked about, which was, you know, like he might still be hurt, or you don't want to undermine a young quarterback. I get that, but it just seems like

Speaker 1 if that was your long play in D.C.

Speaker 1 to see what we have in Haskins, you know, going three and a half games or four games doesn't really give you the body of evidence to know whether or not he's a guy for the future.

Speaker 1 Well, they couldn't see him, though. They didn't.

Speaker 1 There's no preseason.

Speaker 1 There's no training camp. I'm saying like four weeks is a very short amount of time to give him if their whole plan was to say like we're going to see if Dwayne Haskins is good.

Speaker 1 We don't want to risk bringing somebody else in to undermine him. Now,

Speaker 1 if it's like the 49ers or a team like that, I understand not bringing Cam Newton in it. If it's a team that has like anywhere close to an established quarterback,

Speaker 1 I get why he wouldn't. And it is lazy to be like, well, you know, all 32 teams passed on Cam and let Belichick get him.

Speaker 1 That's not the case, but I think that there is, just based on Rivera and Turner and the offensive coaching staff, with DC, it just seems a little weird how this whole thing is shaken out.

Speaker 1 Weren't Rivera and Cam not like on the best terms, though, at the end? They weren't like

Speaker 4 I don't know specifically. I think I did see some things about that, you know, and he obviously wishes him well at the end.

Speaker 4 But I think to back to PFT's point on this, I do think that the reason ultimately why they are sitting Haskins down is not just that he's not winning games for them, it's that he's not responding to the teaching and the coaching.

Speaker 4 Like he's not doing what they're asking him to do. And I don't know that it's like an example being set of him, but I think it's more so that we can't allow this to continue.

Speaker 4 If this guy's not doing what we ask him and we try to work with him over and over and over again, let's.

Speaker 4 And the other thing I'm hearing is that they think that there's a shot to win the NFC East because it's such a bad division that they want to see what this other guy is going to be able to do, Josh Allen, if he's going to be able to come in here and do anything.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 1 I don't think he's going to. Yeah, see, that to me means that

Speaker 1 I can't begrudge Ron Rivera here because he had no idea.

Speaker 1 In a normal world,

Speaker 1 if he had OTAs, if he had, you know, training camp, he probably would have known this a long time ago that Dwayne Haskins doesn't look the way he wants him to look and he doesn't respond to the coaching the way he wants.

Speaker 1 But this is, they probably went in with great intentions and it just didn't work.

Speaker 4 I don't disagree with that. I think they really wanted Dwayne Haskins to work out.
That would have been in their best interest. They've got a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 4 He's going to be able to win games for them. They're probably not going to make the playoffs this year.
The NFC East has the Cowboys and the Eagles. Those are teams that are going to be very good.

Speaker 4 But at least they've got the stepping stones for building a franchise here in D.C. And obviously, you know, we see that Dwayne Haskins may not be the guy for them.

Speaker 1 So based on what you've seen so far from Dwayne Haskins, and I think that's probably right, because if there was like, if they thought that he was not the guy, they probably would have at least considered trying to trade down or drafting Tua

Speaker 1 back in the NFL draft. But based on what you've seen from Dwayne Haskins, can you just tell me, is he, should I move on?

Speaker 1 Just mentally, I need to know, because I'm scarred from the Jason Campbell experience, where it was like just give him one more year he's showing signs of progression i'm scarred from that i got ptsd from jason campbell should i just should i just rip the band-aid off and say dwayne's not the guy i i think that it's going to take a lot for dwayne the rest of the season to get back to the point where you could say he is the guy.

Speaker 4 So I think for right now, for your own mental health, you should assume he's not the guy and move forward and don't

Speaker 4 pay him another thought. Don't waste your time or your stress on him.
And then if he reappears and he's playing much better, then you can start maybe trying to fall back in love with him.

Speaker 1 There you go. I'm going to eternal sunshine of the spotless mind myself.
I'm going to remove that part of all Dwayne Haskins knowledge.

Speaker 1 And then if I get reintroduced to him, I might be like, oh, who's this guy? I really like this guy. So, okay, thank you for saying that.
That's very good for me. All right.

Speaker 1 So I had one last question, Warren.

Speaker 1 Since we're going to run this on Friday, can you give us maybe a quick breakdown of Sunday night football from a gambling perspective for the people?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Sunday night football, right now, the Seahawks are favored by seven points. Total is 57 and a half.
So we'll see if those lines are still there.

Speaker 4 The Seattle Seahawks offense is one of the most productive in the NFL, but nobody really is paying close enough attention to the Minnesota Vikings offense, which is quietly doing significantly better because they've got Justin Jefferson involved in that passing game.

Speaker 4 I have no idea why they decided not to incorporate him early enough into weeks one and two, but this is actually a team I use an early down success rate metric is one of my favorite metrics to use.

Speaker 4 And the Minnesota Vikings offense actually ranks number one in that metric, which is essentially revolving around bypassing third downs.

Speaker 4 And one of the reasons is it's in part like because they've been losing in these games.

Speaker 4 So they've had to turn it on a little bit quicker, but they're actually having a lot of success throwing the ball down the field. I think Seattle heading into a bye next week.

Speaker 4 So they play this week, then they have a buy.

Speaker 4 I'm curious to know how many of their defensive players are actually going to try to rush back for this game, and then they're going to be on a buy next week.

Speaker 4 I think just like we saw in Green Bay with Devontae Adams, you may see some of these guys just sat down to be determined. And

Speaker 4 that will help the Vikings offense even further. But the bigger question that I have for the Vikings offense, we can say everything golden about them that we want to.

Speaker 4 We got Kirk Cousins not playing at 1 p.m. here.
And that's the biggest storyline is this prime time issue with Kirk Cousins and how he struggles tremendously. Will he be productive in this spot?

Speaker 4 We know that there's no not going to be any crowd noise. We know that there won't be any fans.
Was he just scared of the fans?

Speaker 4 Was he getting concerned because people were booing him or yelling at him and he'll play better without fans?

Speaker 4 Or was it simply the fact that he's such a creature of habit, as we've heard him say before, that any game that's not at 1 p.m., it throws off his daily routine and he can't figure out how to operate in this change time condition so hopefully it's not the ladder and he actually plays a good game here but which would be equally as funny because he gets so scared it's like a guy shooting a free throw in a high school gym you guys have both probably done that and you're at a road game and you're playing high school ball and the crowd's getting on your case and you just kind of tense up maybe you guys have ice in your veins

Speaker 4 but you know that kirk cousins might be that type of quarterback so um but but i think that the seahawks offense there's clear advantages for them to push the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 Super high total right now. And we'll have to see if there's going to be some rain involved.
But I think we got two defenses that can be taken advantage of here.

Speaker 4 And if you look at that Miami-Seattle game from last week, the one thing you should take away is five trips within field goal range, five field goals for the Seahawks. Sorry, for the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 Grandpa Gailey settled for those. Will the Minnesota Vikings offense be a a lot more aggressive in those spots? Go forward on fourth down, try to punch it into the end zone.

Speaker 4 If they stay with a more aggressive game plan, it's going to be hard to see this game really petering out and not being entertaining unless it's entirely hinged upon Kirk Cousins can't play anytime other than 1 p.m.

Speaker 1 You mentioned the rain real quick.

Speaker 1 I've always heard, and maybe this is just from Big Cat because we talk about the rain versus the snow versus the wind, that the wind affects the point total more so than anything else.

Speaker 1 What about the rain? What does rain do?

Speaker 4 Rain can be a definite factor from two different perspectives.

Speaker 4 number one light drizzle really not an issue light drizzle the surface of the field sometimes gets a little bit slick which can actually help players and and and and that know where they're running yeah cut and then the defenders fall right but the two areas that it's a bigger question mark is if you have heavier rain that definitely makes it more difficult and i think it actually nobody talks about this but i think it actually impacts certain quarterbacks differently than others not just from a hand size perspective and their ability to throw the ball, but how accurate they are with passes.

Speaker 4 Because as you guys know, if you're playing in the rain and you're trying to reach up and extend yourself, you can't really make one-handed catches or these big extension catches in the rain.

Speaker 4 But if you have a quarterback who's throwing it on target right between the numbers, those balls are easier to catch in the rain. So it could hurt certain quarterbacks more than others.

Speaker 4 Go back and look up some of the splits from Russell Wilson in the rain. It's not going to be pretty.

Speaker 4 what he typically has done in the rain, which is shocking actually, because he's a good quarterback and his hands are actually, I think, a decent size, but in the rain, he hasn't played as well.

Speaker 4 And the other thing that this factors into is the coaching philosophy, because some coaches end up instantly, we see some rain out on the field and we're like, okay, this is going to be a tough game.

Speaker 4 We're going to have to grind it out. Maybe more run plays on early downs.
Let's be careful. Points are going to be at a premium.

Speaker 4 So they enter the game with that sort of philosophy and it just leads to lower points across the board because coaching matters tremendously from the result of a game.

Speaker 4 And if you got a couple of coaches or even one who's like, we're going to play more conservatively than we normally do, we won't want to pass the ball as much. We want to run the ball more.

Speaker 4 We're okay with punting the ball. We just don't want to turn it over.
Like that will tremendously kill a total, especially one that's at 57 and a half.

Speaker 1 Yeah, really, really high.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Warren, thank you as always.

Speaker 1 At sharp football on Twitter. You can listen to his podcast.
You can find him sharpfootballanalysis.com, sharpfootballstats.com. Be a smarter football fan with Warren Sharp.

Speaker 1 You owe us a kicking report. Two reports.
And what's the other one?

Speaker 1 The field goal luck.

Speaker 1 Turnover luck.

Speaker 4 Turnover luck and field goal luck. I'll get those reports to you by the end of the day.

Speaker 1 No, you can do it Friday. Tweet it out Friday when we post the show.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll tweet out.

Speaker 4 I'll tweet it out Friday. I'll tweet out Friday.
And also, since your Bears are 3-1, I don't know when we're going to have another great record.

Speaker 4 Hopefully, it's soon, and they're going to do even better things, but we'll give 31% off anything. Just use PMT31 if anybody wants 31% off

Speaker 1 PMT31. Beautiful.
All right, Warren, thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.
We'll get you back on soon.

Speaker 4 Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 5 How the fuck did you do that?

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is philanthropist, entrepreneur, author, producer.
You've maybe seen her on television. It is Bethany Frankl.

Speaker 1 She also has a new podcast, which is out now, Just Be with Bethany Frankl.

Speaker 1 Bethany, thank you for joining us. I'm a huge fan.
Exciting to have you on. We're trying to do range.
You know what I mean? We talk a lot of sports.

Speaker 1 We have NFL and then we have Bethany Frankl on to talk about whatever we want to talk about.

Speaker 5 I think range is good. I actually think that's smart.
It's true. I mean, listen, let's see if I can hang.
I'm not sure, but we'll see what we got going.

Speaker 1 So I asked a lot of friends what I should ask you because I don't watch a show.

Speaker 1 i've never watched real housewives that's on me i'm not saying it's a bad show i might enjoy it if i sat down to watch it it's a very bad show i'm not on it anymore but it's it's really it's not gonna

Speaker 1 it's not gonna raise your iq any you know but so we're good that's a great it can't yeah mine can't get any lower to begin with so i'm good but people would tell me like be careful with her she's she can be mean she can be feisty i went back i've watched some interviews with you i've watched you some clips of uh of the show on tv and i don't think that you're mean i think that you're i think you're very direct and i don't i think you don't care what other people think about you so my first question is how how do you do that because i want that

Speaker 5 um it's very liberating it's sort of like being honest you just know that you can just live in that because if you're honest you never get jammed up you're cool if you don't really care you know it's better to be

Speaker 5 there's no gray in this life i mean so it's black or white i'm polarizing and that's okay it's it would be worse for me it's okay if i'm not liked it would be bad if i were not trusted.

Speaker 5 So that would really bother me, but I'm definitely trusted. I am absolutely direct.
I'm intense.

Speaker 5 And I wonder, and I'm not one of these women that talks about like what women don't get and what men get, et cetera. But I actually,

Speaker 5 I think I'm more like a man. And I wonder if I were a man, if they would even say what you just said, you know, but polarizing would probably be something that people would definitely say.

Speaker 5 I mean, I had a big meeting here at my house yesterday with seven guys and

Speaker 5 big and nervous a little bit. I mean, you know, I can be a little intense.

Speaker 1 You are intimidating. You are intimidating because you are extremely, extremely successful, and you do get what you want.
I am a fan of the show.

Speaker 1 You're not on it anymore, like you said, but I've watched every episode of Real Housewives of New York. I have a reality TV behind-the-scenes question.

Speaker 1 How many times

Speaker 1 when you were on it, would you watch the episode and be like, wait, that's not how it happened? Like, the edit drives me nuts here. It's out of your control.

Speaker 1 Did that happen or, you know, did it happen often? What was that?

Speaker 5 No, what happens is

Speaker 5 they crystallize with a narrative, but like a blind date. You could go on a blind date with someone for an hour and a half and you come home and you just basically explain like the bottom line.

Speaker 5 You're like, she, she shit her pants at the table. She, you know, ordered a lobster and she said something really nice about my hair.
And like, that's what the episode is going to show.

Speaker 5 So a bunch of of other things could have happened on that date, but it's kind of just like a crystallization. It's just, it's gotten more manufactured over the years.

Speaker 5 And I think it is different now than it was then. And I do hear that from many areas of the franchise where when I went on, you didn't even put hair and makeup on.
You sort of just winged it.

Speaker 5 You didn't have to go over the top to create drama. Just nuance was very dramatic.
And now, you know, someone throws a leg or someone rips a weave out or everybody's got to top each other.

Speaker 5 And it becomes a little more manufactured. People aren't really friends, but they have to sort of produce them as if they're friends.

Speaker 5 So it's a very strange dynamic because you're living in this world, and these things that you're arguing about are very important to you within this microcosm.

Speaker 5 But in no other situation of your life would they be important.

Speaker 5 The minute you walk off that show after four months, you couldn't give a good fuck about any of these people or what you were talking about.

Speaker 5 But it's what you're doing right there, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that makes sense. Now, what about though, the trip? My favorite part of every season is the trip when it's like, things are going too well with the ladies.

Speaker 1 Let's all go to Mexico, drink a lot of booze, and fight for three days.

Speaker 1 Did you know that before you would go on the trip every year being like, got to get ready? This shit is going to get wild.

Speaker 5 Okay, so to give an analogy to sports too, what I was just describing is sort of like I imagine people who are on a field together who in that moment, they're killing each other and resolving things with their teammates or whatever, and then opposing, you know, in opposition to others with a goal.

Speaker 5 And the coach has a goal, but like when they get off the field, they go home, they hang out with their kids and they live their life. And it's like, that's not what they're dealing with.

Speaker 5 They think about it, and press is coming out about it, and they're like dealing with it, but that's that. So, to answer the next question, does that make sense? Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Like, after the game, you're like, okay, good game. Like, now I'm going to go and live my life.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I hate that motherfucker, but I don't have to live with them. So, who cares? Like, or I love that person or whatever.

Speaker 5 And that, so, but then the trips are designed to put you in a pressure cabin together with everybody to work through and bring up every issue.

Speaker 5 And it's sort of like a drawing room comedy where you'll cut to one room and see these two people talking about that.

Speaker 5 And then one person will come out and tell everybody in the group situation what that person happens. And then a little fight starts.

Speaker 5 And so it's like little mini forest fires that, with any luck from production, begin a big, giant, one big fire for the finale of what this thing is.

Speaker 5 And then for the last night, they would hope to contain the fire. And then there'll still be like remnants of the fire when everybody gets home.
Right.

Speaker 1 So, even though

Speaker 5 you could be going to Morocco or Des Moines or Newark, New Jersey, and it doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 5 Certain people on the show that are losers get excited about these vacations to these foreign places when it doesn't matter where you are because it's going to be the most disgusting experience of arguments and toxicity that it wouldn't matter to me.

Speaker 5 Like, I'd almost rather not be somewhere nice because I don't want to experience Bali

Speaker 5 in this way, which is all about conflict and craziness. And you don't even take a call from like your spouse or your boyfriend.
Like, you're in the zone. You're literally, that's your Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 You're not taking side phone calls. You're just like making moves, running plays.
You know, you're just, this is, you're just, and it's kill or be killed.

Speaker 5 This is just kill or be killed. And that's what they, why they design it.
And it's always before we go on the trip.

Speaker 1 I want to invite you all i think we should all relax i don't want any drama i don't want any drama

Speaker 5 you know which is like then there's no drama and the producers are burning the show to the ground i mean it's just

Speaker 1 that's a great answer i love it i love the behind the scenes reality show because it's just so funny how how the trip always just gets insane i also just love the term pressure cabin i think that's what we should call our studio from now on the cash app pressure cabin that sounds awesome

Speaker 5 you guys should film a bunch of you like bros that are animals that, like, I don't know if you have girlfriends or wives, but like the way you really act when you're eating beer, I mean, eating wings and being gross, and like put yourself in a pressure cooker.

Speaker 5 There will be some fights if it were a certain amount of days, but like three, four days and a bunch of sports things going on, and maybe bets going, something will happen.

Speaker 1 You described

Speaker 1 our business, our girl,

Speaker 1 basically, the business model. Yeah, we literally do that all the time.
I don't eat as much beer as I used to. Actually, I'm going to try doing that.
I'm going to try freezing beer.

Speaker 1 She sounds like Bethany's so smart as a businesswoman, she invented barstool sports just now. That's without realizing it.

Speaker 1 So before you became known to America,

Speaker 1 you were an entrepreneur for a while, but I guess you were introduced to the nation really on Martha Stewart's Apprentice. Is that right?

Speaker 1 That was my first, yeah.

Speaker 1 When you were like preparing to do that, or even before you knew that you were going to be on reality television, would you sit around watching reality TV and criticizing the moves that people would make and think of the strategies that you would use if you were to find yourself on that side of the camera?

Speaker 5 No, and there really wasn't reality TV then. There might have been like the real world years ago, which was different, but the apprentice was pretty innovative.

Speaker 5 That's the first time I'd ever heard of anything like that. And this wasn't the celebrity apprentice.
This was the Bill Rancic go-sell lemonade apprentice.

Speaker 5 And then I was on the Martha Stewart version. So again, it had the sensibility of the first seat, the first.

Speaker 5 round of housewives for me where it was just so authentic and so real and it was like young kids like striving for a dream just panic stricken that never seen a camera and were sleeping in a place where we didn't have phones or television or newspapers for months no uh walls where we slept all light if you went to the bathroom they were following you like just another pressure cooker so it was like real intense business competition now other shows whether it's big brother or whatever shows they have they're all derivative you know it's hard to keep recreating that so the answer is absolutely not and certainly for housewise because it was not called housewise it was called manhattan moms i wasn't even a mom.

Speaker 5 And I was like this question mark sort of Carrie Bradshaw character that no one knew what was going to happen with me. So it was so natural.
And that's sort of how I like to do things.

Speaker 5 That's why I never like to do something that's been done before. So my new show, The Big Shot with Bethany, which is a much more modern and realistic version of The Apprentice.

Speaker 5 is unlike any other show before and i i need everything i do to be like that i had never listened to a podcast in my entire life i still haven't until in my life until i did mine not to be selfish to the genre.

Speaker 5 It's just that I didn't want to know anything. I want to do it like my own.
I want to do my own way and be fresh and just say, fuck it.

Speaker 1 So about your podcast, Just Be With Bethany Frankl. So you never listen to a podcast.
Do you know how to find a podcast?

Speaker 5 No, I've never subscribed to a podcast. No, and a lot of my listeners who I've brought in, which I liken to HSN, HSN has me on a lot because not only do I sell well, but I bring in a new audience.

Speaker 5 So I've brought in a lot of new people to podcasts overall, like a ridiculous number of people have never done it. You're welcome.
No,

Speaker 1 we've got money in our pocket. Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 5 Steady bowling, Allie, who doesn't even know how to subscribe.

Speaker 1 Like, literally, yeah, you're welcome. She's gonna listen,

Speaker 1 she's gonna listen to this show, and she's gonna like be like, These two guys are the funniest fuckers ever.

Speaker 1 I like you, vibes.

Speaker 1 I like you, I like you too.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that. Good vibes, always a good thing.
So, who like guests that you're gonna have on, dream guests? Uh, what's the direction of the podcast?

Speaker 5 When is this airing?

Speaker 5 Because I don't know if I'm allowed to say, so I have had Mark Cuban, I've had Andy Cohen, and Paris Hilton, and Maria Shriver, and Ryan Murphy, and I think we booked Sharipova, and I booked Pharrell, if I'm allowed to say it, and Chris Henshey, um, and a lot of pretty sick people.

Speaker 5 But I just booked somebody that's like mind-blown crazy. To say A-list would be like belittling, like we're all like, holy fucking shit! Like the bait, so I can't say that now, I don't think.

Speaker 1 But I'm not the person.

Speaker 1 If you got Leo DiCaprio.

Speaker 5 I wouldn't even, I mean, respectfully, I don't know if Leo's built an actual business. Like, I would have him, maybe, but all these people have to Dana White.
We had UFC. Oh, we had Dana White.

Speaker 5 You have to have, like, you have to be have been. Yeah, he's extraordinary.
So I would book him. Extraordinary, visionary, mogul, game changer.
Started from the bottom. Now we're here.

Speaker 5 It's not really just about fame. So, yes, I would book Leonardo DiCaprio, obviously, but no, respectfully to Leonardo DiCaprio, much more insane than him.

Speaker 1 So anyway. Cardi B.
Ooh.

Speaker 5 No, she's built a business, and that would be very great. We'd be very excited, like Pharrell.
This is better. Third chance.
Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 Eric Trump.

Speaker 5 No, no, but Jay-Z is

Speaker 5 Jay-Z is a bit Jay-Z's bucket list of this. Jay's because he is a mogul and a business person, and so is Dr.
Dre. But no, but I'll let you'll know next week after we film it.

Speaker 1 Okay, we actually just got texted the answer, but we're not going to say it because we respect you.

Speaker 5 Is that true? Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 We got respected. We just, yeah.

Speaker 1 Our PR person knows, but we're, we like you so much, we're not going to say it, but good get. But that's pretty cool, right? She's great.
Yeah, good job. And

Speaker 5 she's game changer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, we'll keep it in the middle.
Say who it is. Nice, nice.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's great. So everyone should subscribe.
Thank you for bringing more people to the podcast world. Just be with Bethany Frankel.

Speaker 1 I have a couple other quick questions about Real Housewives. I don't know if you want to answer all these, but

Speaker 1 it's ridiculous that she still goes by the countess, right?

Speaker 5 Yes, but,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 what the hell is a countess anyway, to begin with? What, like, like Megan Markle was a dun was a, was a, was a, was a briefcase girl, and she's now a duchess because she married into it.

Speaker 5 So forever she'll be, but now she's not a duchess. Like, who gives a good fuck? So I'm, you know what I mean? I'm a fairy princess.

Speaker 5 I'm the fairy princess now and forever you're calling me the fairy princess it doesn't even matter no

Speaker 1 it just title yeah i mean for people who don't watch the show countess uh luanne de la seps so she married french royalty i don't even know some made her title no either a guy who is a count yeah and i don't know if they give back titles a lot i think not put it's just i don't know what any of that stuff you know what i mean like what it all means doesn't it's like a socialite thing to me who cares right and so in the first

Speaker 1 yeah in the first ever season Bethany called Luanne by her name, Luanne, and Luann pulled her aside and was like, when we're in public, please say Countess. Countess.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And then she's been divorced from the Count for a long time, but still goes by the Countess.

Speaker 1 I can kind of understand that because how many Countesses do you meet? You know, like, that's a title that it just sounds like you're evil. It sounds like people have got to give it away.

Speaker 1 I think you lose it when you're not married to the Count anymore. I agree that you probably have to give it up, but if you are currently married,

Speaker 1 I can wrestle.

Speaker 1 You have to wrestle a new countess. You should have to wear like a big cloak, like a big black cloak everywhere you go and wear dark makeup.

Speaker 5 Or be the artist, or be the reality star formerly known as Countess, and go like the prince route.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Okay, so that was one.
And the other one was, what's worse, not inviting someone to your party or not showing up to a party that you were invited to?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like 80% of the fights on Real Housewives is essentially like, you didn't invite me to your birthday party, or I invited you my birthday party and you didn't show and that's really the genesis of most fights you're the greatest okay that I say this all but it's let me go a little deeper it's these are people that can't stand each other

Speaker 5 can't can't stand each other so a i'm very big on both i'm very big on not inviting and i'm very big on not wanting to be invited okay that said the people around me you know and i would have thought you know you didn't support me yes you didn't you didn't support you didn't come and support me.

Speaker 5 And I supported you. And I came to your thing.
It's like, I don't want you at my thing. And I don't want to be at your thing.
And that was one of the reasons I had to leave the show.

Speaker 5 In my mind, a very small reason. There's a much bigger picture, but like, I don't want to go to things that I don't, with these people.

Speaker 5 I don't want to go to, I would never go to these things for these people if I weren't on the show having to be with these people.

Speaker 1 Yes. The, the, the, the, support in the real housewives world is quite literally showing up to a party in the Hamptons, drinking a flute of champagne and eating like a stuffed mushroom.

Speaker 1 That's support.

Speaker 5 But a fake event that was from a business that's not real unless you had the show.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 There's a show. So you created the business to have content on the show.

Speaker 5 And the people that you become friends with on the show have to come to support you in that business and that event that wouldn't happen unless the show helped coordinate it.

Speaker 1 So if I support, it's just show up so that other people can see you at my fake event. And then they'll think that my fake business is good because my fake friend was here.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And it's a great, just a a great low-hanging fruit argument on it on a reality show.
Yeah. You didn't support me.
It's a great, low-hanging fruit argument. Like, she didn't come.

Speaker 5 And she told you that she was with her daughter sick, but I saw her at the Olive Garden downing breadstick.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 And I have the receipts.

Speaker 5 I have a photo of her at the olive garden down in Brent's breadstick.

Speaker 5 The next scene is, you know, the producer saying, go tell, you know, Chanel that, you know, you've got the receipts and you know that she was at the Olive Garden because, you know, they were had a drought on fucking salad dressing.

Speaker 1 Right, right. I get that.

Speaker 1 You, on the other hand, have a very real business, one that I was already well aware of before I even was introduced to Bethany Frankel, which is Skinny Girl Margarita. I enjoy Skinny Girl.

Speaker 1 I feel like a fraud if I'm drinking it because I'm not a skinny girl. Is there any room in the market for like a thick boy, thick, dumbass margarita?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Zoftig, Zoftig sports fan. Well, the skinny girl margarita

Speaker 5 became a whole line, and I sold the cocktail portion of that business.

Speaker 5 So I don't own it anymore, but a lot of men drink it just like men watch housewives because their wives drink it. So the women are the purchasers of the households.
So the men drink it.

Speaker 5 I don't own that brand anymore. I own 100% of the skinny girl brand, except for alcohol.
That was my big sort of cash out exit.

Speaker 5 And it was very creative of me and innovative to say, you can have that, but I'm keeping the rest of it.

Speaker 5 So, for example, Grey Goose, when they sold, they didn't keep the, they don't get to keep the intellectual property and the name and make other things out of it.

Speaker 5 And Sky Vodka, and I can name 50, 50 brands that don't do that. So I get to go make jeans and salad dressings and popcorn and preserves and everything else in the brand Skinny Girl that I own.

Speaker 5 So that was a pretty baller business move, but I still have the rest of my skinny girl stash at my house and men do drink it.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's tasty. Yes.
Do you ever look in the mirror and you're like, like queen?

Speaker 1 Just look at yourself like, yes, queen.

Speaker 5 I like myself and I like myself.

Speaker 5 I like myself more.

Speaker 5 I would want to be friends with myself because I'm very honest

Speaker 5 and I own it and I... don't ask anybody to do anything I haven't done myself.
And I work really hard and I'm a really good and centered mom.

Speaker 5 And I am honest about who I am and where I am in my life and how old I am, and what I look like. And I just don't front.
And so

Speaker 5 I like to be friends with people like that. And I like to laugh a lot.
And comedy is first. Comedy is the first priority.
So I'm cool with who I am, you know, and I'm tough too, which is nice.

Speaker 5 And I feel like it's good for my daughter to see those aspects of me in addition to just my sense of humor and being very nurturing to her. So I like myself.

Speaker 1 Do you want to run for president? Ooh.

Speaker 5 Well, a lot of people have said I should run for mayor or president, but to be perfectly honest, honest, I don't think I'm not knowledgeable enough about foreign policy, but I know you can get people around you to help you.

Speaker 5 And if you know what you don't know, you can get very far. I've done, you know, over like $70 million in relief work worldwide.

Speaker 5 And people have said I've gotten more done, not people have said, I've gotten infinitely more done than the government has gotten done in the time that I did it.

Speaker 5 Not even a question with all kinds of disasters, but that's only one area of politics. I'm not great at like schmoozing 10,000 people in a row.

Speaker 5 Like, I don't think I I would like touching so many people and just being fake and phony, but I'd be good at the game. And

Speaker 5 I'm really in pajamas 90% of the time. And so I don't think that I think I'd have to like, I don't like being handled all the time.

Speaker 5 Like you got to do this and then you got to go there and then you got to be this and we got to put the mate. I don't like being touched and handled all the time.
So I don't know if I'd like that part.

Speaker 5 But doing the running the country, I think I could absolutely do. I mean, I know I could absolutely do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the notion of what it's like to be at work is changing so quickly. And especially in the last six months with the pandemic, so much stuff is done remotely.

Speaker 1 I think there's less handling going on in general.

Speaker 1 You have a great social media presence that you could use to connect directly to people, so you don't have to worry about going to as many fake schmoozy events.

Speaker 1 And plus, I think that there's like a certain amount of, you know, it's refreshing to deal with somebody and you can tell that they're not schmoozing you.

Speaker 1 You know, they can, you can tell that somebody's just being authentic.

Speaker 5 I'd be the honest politician and be able to figure out how to play the game without being corrupt and not bullshitting everybody 100%.

Speaker 5 I just don't know how you go about being the president.

Speaker 5 I mean, if somebody that was important came in and like picked me up from my house and took me to the place I'm supposed to go and filled out the paperwork for me, because I'm not good at that, then I would apply and see if I got the job.

Speaker 5 But I also don't like leaving my daughter. But I guess there'd be like a nice fun bus that she'd give me on in homeschool.
So yeah, I would. They give you a whole house.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They do give you a whole house.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'd love to renovate Gracie Mansion or the White House and I could get a lot of things done.

Speaker 5 But people would be like, I'd have to get a real education on foreign foreign policy and certain issues but i guess that's what everybody i just wouldn't be full about it i'd be like if you want to get things done and be wise and be strategic i'm very good at that that i'm an executor so that not of people but of ideas so that would be that i could handle for sure but i just would need someone to guide me so you just mentioned um like doing the paperwork would suck uh i read that your biggest financial regret is you just filled out the paperwork wrong on uh when you made your business and it cost you millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 How did you not have someone else do that for you? I, I, no, I, I did.

Speaker 5 It's not that I felt what happened was

Speaker 5 when I was doing the housewives at a certain point, I had a lawyer and the housewife said to be on the housewives, you had to get paid in a certain way based on whatever my job or business was then.

Speaker 5 Like, it takes a while to set up like your corporation or your LLC or S-Corp. And I'm not good at that kind of stuff and I don't pretend to be.

Speaker 5 So, but then I was just a personal entity being paid through a reality show. So, I guess I signed up for, I think it was either S-Corp or I had been in LLC.
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 I still don't remember, but I signed up. I checked the box to be whatever that was.

Speaker 5 Well, then I started skinny grown, did all these other things and had good agents, but I didn't have, you know, like I have now, $700 an hour lawyers, you know.

Speaker 5 And, and by the way, it doesn't even matter if I did. Lawyers and agents miss things all the time.

Speaker 5 And everybody who's listening needs to understand that you be a concept person and you be minding the whole shop and understanding because I find mistakes all the time in deals and things that I would have gotten fucked on all the time.

Speaker 5 So, anyway, I kept moving and grooving and selling my margaritas. And, you know,

Speaker 5 to my surprise,

Speaker 5 Beam came and they wanted to buy it. And it was a very lucrative deal.
And it took months to negotiate the deal.

Speaker 5 And even if I had in the middle of negotiating the deal, realized that it would have been called clawback. You can't go clawback and uncheck a box because you're on another road.

Speaker 5 So I, when I found out we sold and got the money, the check I got was March 17th, 2010. And March 18th, I'll never forget it.

Speaker 5 I was on an elliptical and I don't know, sometimes things hit me in a weird time and I just, something hit me and I realized it or someone said something to me and I realized that I had been registered as X, so I had to be paid as X and it was millions of dollars, like a house in the Hamptons, millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 Big house. Shit.
Yeah, paperwork's the worst. I hate that shit.
We need to move on from paperwork. We need to become a a post-paperwork society.
Right.

Speaker 1 And you also should, like, I think in society, you should be like, yo, my bad. Like, I just filled out this thing.
Like, everyone hates paperwork. No one's paying attention.

Speaker 1 There should be just a little bit of a, you know, it's okay. You fucked up.
Like, just fix it. Rebrand the clawback as the just my bad.
Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 1 Hand up. That's on me.
Let's let's make it right.

Speaker 5 Yes. Right.
You sound a little bit like Seth Rogan sometimes. Just then you did.

Speaker 1 Who? Which one of us? RPFT.

Speaker 1 Which one? Yeah. Me? Short hair.
Me. Short hair.
Big cat. I got it.
Me. Yeah.
I'd be sounding Jonah Hill. Talk about DMT.
DMT. You ever go to L Connie?

Speaker 1 All right, Bethany, what is up with Be Strong? That's coming out soon, too, right?

Speaker 5 No, Be Strong is the philanthropic

Speaker 5 initiative I discussed where

Speaker 1 you have.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You got B, you got Just B, you got Be Strong, you got the, what's the HBO show?

Speaker 5 Well, that's the big shop, but my

Speaker 5 production company is Be Real. There you go.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's great. That's a great idea.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So the philanthropy, I have done relief work all over the world for disaster relief, like being the first one on the ground to basically, you know, we flew 53 planes in and out of Puerto Rico filled with aid and then multiple barges and millions and millions of dollars and like 15 million pounds of aid.

Speaker 5 The Bahamas, we did a similar massive effort, like major efforts.

Speaker 5 100% goes to the initiative. So there's no confusion as to where money's going.

Speaker 5 And I'm very transparent, so I'm always keeping people connected about where money their money's going so they have a good return on their investment.

Speaker 5 And for the for the uh, for coronavirus and for the pandemic, I just thought we were going to give out 20,000 kits to for sanitization and prevention.

Speaker 5 But what ended up happening was I ended up distributing aid to all PPE to all 50 states. We did 2.1 million hazmat suits and masks, and

Speaker 5 2.1 million hazmat suits and masks, over $20 million of PPE to hospitals and police stations and to people all over the country, saving people's lives before the government could kind of, you know, pull it together.

Speaker 5 So it's pretty gnarly. It was pretty intense.
It was very corrupt and it was very much hacking your way through corruption. And it was really insane.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 crazy. Yeah.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It seems like you just, all your companies and all your ventures, you just dominate dominate the letter B.

Speaker 1 You own the letter B. Yeah.
I own the letter B. Do you come up with all your names by yourself?

Speaker 5 I'm the biggest namer. No matter what it is,

Speaker 5 you tell me some idea for a show. In five minutes, I'm like, I got the name.
I'm really good with names.

Speaker 1 Okay. A pack of sled dogs, and one of them is going through puberty.
And

Speaker 1 they have to save a town. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Blood dog.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's very close. Yeah, actually, that'll be the PG version of it.
That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
You said before we got started that you were really into horse racing.

Speaker 1 You grew up around horses a lot. I'd just like to have you back on to give your Kentucky Derby picks and Belmont picks and pre-profits.
Cool.

Speaker 5 I'd love to be. How many women come on? I'd love to.

Speaker 1 I like to be tall.

Speaker 5 They do? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 Now I don't feel special. Sorry.

Speaker 1 You're the only one.

Speaker 1 You're the only one. We don't talk to people.

Speaker 5 I can never do this with anyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 exactly. This is so

Speaker 1 Barbara Corcoran. Now we have our

Speaker 1 Kelly who set this up, who shout out Kelly, she's the best. She's now typing all the names of women that we've had on to remind us.
Lindsay Vaughan, the list keeps going. Rachel Nichols.

Speaker 1 It literally goes for hours and hours and hours.

Speaker 1 Layla Ali. Yeah, fact.

Speaker 1 Rose.

Speaker 1 Rose Lavelle from the U.S. women's national team.

Speaker 5 Now you're going to make me competitive, so you can stop telling me all the girls you've slept with. I'm not really sure.

Speaker 1 Basically, we basically, we're not really brunette types. We're like, you know,

Speaker 1 that's okay. It's probably not for you.

Speaker 1 One last, last question from me.

Speaker 1 What was the favorite tagline you ever had?

Speaker 1 Because you are creative.

Speaker 5 If you're going to take a shot at this B, you better not miss.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 I love the tagline. So stinky.
They're so bad. They're so bad and they're so good.

Speaker 1 Like, they're like, you're going to either love me or hate me. There's no in-between.

Speaker 5 Well, they also mix metaphors. Kyle said, Beverly Hills, the cream rises to the

Speaker 5 in Beverly Hills, the truth always rises to the top.

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 5 cream?

Speaker 1 Isn't it the cream that rises to the top?

Speaker 1 Oh, man, they're the best. Well, Bethany, this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it. Thank you.
It was so fun. Everyone, go check out the new podcast.

Speaker 1 Go check out Bethany's show on HBO. So Just Be With Bethany Franklin is a new podcast.
She has

Speaker 1 her relief effort and all the stuff she's doing with Beastrong. She has her HBO show.

Speaker 1 Anything else? What else did I miss? Did I miss anything else? You're doing a million things.

Speaker 5 We can send you a bunch of the products. We have salad dressings and popcorn and preserves and you don't need shapewear.
You look beautiful. You don't need shapewear.
Your body's perfect.

Speaker 1 No, I could use a little

Speaker 1 in the chest. I'd like some Spanks for my cross.

Speaker 5 Well, it's not Spanks. It's called Skinny Girl.

Speaker 1 Skinny Girl. Sorry.
Skinny Girl. We'll bleep that out.
Skinny Boy. It's better than Spanks.
Yeah. Yeah.
I do actually need this.

Speaker 1 I will take some. Thank you.
Okay.

Speaker 5 You'll just give us your sizes and we'll get you a nice built-in bra tank top.

Speaker 1 Do they have, like, what would be my female size? XXXXL? Like, what is?

Speaker 1 Do you have men's?

Speaker 5 I can't see your physique right now. You'd have to stand up.

Speaker 1 No, I'd rather not.

Speaker 1 All right, Bethany. Thanks so much.
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
All right. See ya.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up the

Speaker 1 Friday episode of Part of My Take with some Fire Fest. Then we'll send everyone off into their football weekend.
I think there's a basketball game this time. I haven't heard too much about it.

Speaker 1 Actually, I'll start with Fire Fest. My Fire Fest is actually that.

Speaker 1 I've put on a strong face to our darling Jake when he constantly asked me, do I think the Heat have a chance? And I was a no chance. But there was a moment in the third quarter of game four

Speaker 1 where I was like, I think the Heat can win this series.

Speaker 1 And boy, was I wrong. And boy, does that suck.
Because I told myself not to get my hopes up. And then I didn't.
Tell you what. How about this is our NBA recap.

Speaker 1 So we're going to to get ahead of it. We're not going to do it on Monday.
Lakers technically won. Good job, Lakers.

Speaker 1 Way to go. Technically.
Way to go. You won the A's.
Game seven Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 Jake. Jake.
You're going to break your little heart. Come on, Jake.
Jake, you want to do your Fire Fest?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually have one. I think my E-Chest.
You always prepare. I love that.
Yeah, I always have one in my back pocket. You know what Jake told me? I've got to hold on.
I pocket it.

Speaker 1 You know what he told me earlier today? So when Jake does the stool streams live, he does his homework. He interviews everybody that's going to be competing.

Speaker 1 He says that typically in any given game, you only want to use about 15 to 20 percent of what you've prepared for. So he over prepares by 80 to 85 percent.
Did I do the math right on that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 Every time he does a broadcast. That's why we like Jake.
And with Fire Fest, so every week he has a Fire Fest and he pockets it. So pretty much like all the bad things in your life.

Speaker 1 You're just pushing them down as hard as you can and just being like, let's not talk about him. I like that about you, Jake.
It's just, if I get called on, I'm not going to try to insert myself.

Speaker 1 You're Irish. You're now Irish.
Sure. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think my email got hacked. I've gotten some random, weird emails in these last few.
Like what? Did you look at selling promo? Did you look at porn? No, I'm just kidding. No.
Did you look at porn?

Speaker 1 No. Liberty U Online, American Home Shield Warranty, CBS Shopper, FS360.
It's annoying. Are you in your junk mail? No.
You just get straight to my inbox.

Speaker 1 So, Jake, just be like a normal American and be like, okay, I have a lot of junk mail that I'm never going to send to the junk folder. Right now I have like 50,000 unread emails.

Speaker 1 And then I press on subscribe and they don't.

Speaker 1 I would like to see the porn bots get into your Instagram comments.

Speaker 1 What's your email address? The splashes? Well, it's my personal email, though. Yeah, what is it? Well, I can fix it.
What is it? Well, I guess it's public. It's on my website.
It's

Speaker 1 yeah. Don't send any more spam, guys.
Don't sign Jake up for everything.

Speaker 1 Don't sign anything. No, it's already public, but

Speaker 1 you have a website. I showed you guys in my interview.
Yeah, that's true. I totally looked at it.

Speaker 1 It's written in the third person, too, which is my favorite part. It's written as his public.
It's like Jake Marsh did this, Jake Marsh did that. Yeah.
I love this. I love this.

Speaker 1 I was going to actually bleep out you saying your email so that people wouldn't send it, but now. It's already public.
But now it's really going to get

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Be nice to Jake, yeah. Yeah, be nice to Jake.
Don't sign him up for hilarious blisters. No, no, this will get really bad.
Yeah, no, it's going to. No, it's not going to.
No one's going to do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, of course. You're fine.

Speaker 1 You got it, dude. Maybe take it off your website.
But I just said it. Unless you bleep it out.
Right, we'll bleep it out, and then you can take it off your website. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I should probably take my phone number off there. Yeah, my God, Jake.
Yes, you should.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Hank, you want to go?

Speaker 1 You should do that right right now. You can go, PC.

Speaker 1 You don't have one? No, I just want you to go first. Okay.
Well, Hank's looking up his Fire Fest of the week. My Fire Fest is a pretty easy one.

Speaker 1 I'm being investigated for $40,000 worth of damages by Airbnb, which I just found out about last weekend.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I rented a house inside of Long Island on Labor Day weekend. You're in Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in Labor Day weekend. I rented a house in Long Island.
I went out there, had a pool.

Speaker 1 Basically, I just wanted to get away from New York, get away from the city for a a weekend, since I haven't really left the city since March. Oh, you took a vacation? Early March.

Speaker 1 No, it was on days that we already had off that our forebearers had fought for to get Labor Day. So I wanted to honor them by taking one day off of work.

Speaker 1 So got a house that had a pool in the backyard. Basically just hung out, took it easy.
You drained the pool and skateboarded it. Drank a few beers by the pool.
And

Speaker 1 now the homeowner has contacted me saying that I caused $40,000 worth of the pool. All I did bad bad in that pool was piss in it, which I did a lot.

Speaker 1 That pool, I definitely, definitely peed a lot in that pool. However, they say that I didn't keep the pool at the correct level and that the motor and the pump broke down on it.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 that was not in the listing for the Airbnb telling me I would have to do any sort of pool maintenance. Well, you shouldn't have drank all that water.
I'm not a pool boy.

Speaker 1 I did go to school in Central Virginia. That does not make me a pool boy, but I did drink.

Speaker 1 Well, I drank a lot of beer, but I even took the hose and I used the hose to fill up the pool every day that I was there. I think she's scamming me because she sent me a picture of the

Speaker 1 work, the person who is in charge of fixing the pool, the mechanic.

Speaker 1 He wrote up a report saying this damage was caused by your house guest, PFT, not filling up the pool enough, which is bullshit because I did it every day. Anyways, I feel like $40,000 is a lot to ask.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just don't respond. Well, I did.
I had to do that. Well, he has the best lawyer in the world on your side.
So you're good there. I'm going to sick Mike Portnoy on him.
Yeah. Get him.

Speaker 1 $40,000. Ask me for $4,000.
I'll probably give you $40,000 by accident. But no, I didn't cause a penny worth of damage that place.
But I am looking forward to a little public fight, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it gets the blood going. Let me know if you want me to yell at someone.
Yeah, like you and people show up. I yell at them.

Speaker 1 I gave a motorist the double birds today in the middle of the street.

Speaker 1 Feels awesome. Feels great.
Yeah, I will show up to their door and just yell at them from a distance. Okay.
Hank, your Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 You go, Big Cam. You keep thinking about the Challenger.
I already went. Billy? All right.
Hank doesn't have one. Go ahead, Billy.
My Fire Fest is actually Billy, just in life in general. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 We've been playing Call of Duty, we got in a big fight, and then we played in a tournament last night. We came in dead last, and now we have to write a 5,000-word blog.

Speaker 1 That's and Billy, do you know 5,000 words? I actually have a 5,000, like a 4,000-word paper on Moby Dick, so why don't we just submit that? Yes, yes. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 I've been saying that the whole paper. Perfect.
Okay. So you got to add a thousand words to that.
Yeah, which isn't that bad. No.
Just put

Speaker 1 three workout. Yeah.
Review. Boom.
Your Fire Fest, Hank, is that you are fighting with a 20-year-old, 21-year-old about video games. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You actually go macro level.

Speaker 1 That definitely is what happens where I get really upset and then I take a second. I'm just like, what am I doing? Yeah, what are you doing? What's going on here? Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Billy, you got a firefest.
We're going to do a number. Go ahead.
Well, my fire fest is i actually

Speaker 1 kind of lost

Speaker 1 my

Speaker 1 uh oh oh and billy was screaming when you were playing he was screaming at all his friends in the background he was having a party or something i was not having a party he has a friend

Speaker 1 he has a friend named winston which is just the most preposterous

Speaker 1 name to have a friend my friend it's he's jamaican hell yeah

Speaker 1 no i was about to ask you if you that's not like a winston churchill type situation what uh what's going on here finish this sentence because this could go any different way, any direction.

Speaker 1 I accidentally put a down payment on a hedgehog.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's not.

Speaker 1 I lost a down payment because I basically

Speaker 1 last Sunday, and I was like, fuck it. I'm going to buy a hedgehog.
Yep. Then I woke up.
Most people do that with their parlay money. Next day.

Speaker 1 And I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 1 You spent all your money on an animal. Impulsively buy animals.
Does it have its papers? Or is this like a Tiger King situation where a lemur salesman's going to pay a wire on you?

Speaker 1 I've been deciding, am I going to either bite the bullet or actually get the hedgehog? How much does one put down? What is 20% of a hedgehog?

Speaker 1 Basically, the down payment on a hedgehog wasn't that much, but the actual hedgehog is a lot. How much?

Speaker 1 It's, well, it was a $75 down payment, and a hedgehog's about $250 on top of of that. Okay.

Speaker 1 Your credit must suck if they made you put down that much as a down payment. Yeah.
I mean, think about how many times you can fuck this hedgehog, though. Whoa, no, you can't.
That's the prickles.

Speaker 1 Oh, you'll find a way to get it. That's possible.
It's rough. No way you're chosen.

Speaker 1 I did not. No.

Speaker 1 You can fuck Sonic.

Speaker 1 There's an entire series of websites out there dedicated to it. By the seventh fingering of this hedgehog, it pays for itself.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Maybe hoard out. I love that Billy keeps bringing up his animals and we keep making

Speaker 1 legit like

Speaker 1 why are you saying I'm doing that?

Speaker 1 Fuck. Yeah.
And like, you guys just make me have sex with them. Why don't you

Speaker 1 do it on your own? I don't. I don't.
Anyway. Go Havzies with Winston on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, actually, Hedgehog is moving in.

Speaker 1 Oh. Winston and I had over 50 combined touchdowns in high school.
Oh, fuck. Sweet.
That's a dude. He's moving in.
Why do you need a hedgehog? You can just talk about those touchdowns. I know.

Speaker 1 We watch our highlight tapes.

Speaker 1 Of course, you do. Of course, you do.
Dude, if they're like, Huddle's awesome because it just hangs around, you can pull it up anywhere. All right, yep.

Speaker 1 It's called the internet.

Speaker 1 It's called the internet. You can watch.
All right, here we go. 17.
Huddle highlights 82. 18.
42.

Speaker 1 I don't like that J. Cube's price.
Whatever you call it. Price is right.

Speaker 1 42.

Speaker 1 One day we're going to get it.

Speaker 1 89.

Speaker 1 Damn, it's 89. It's going to be electric.

Speaker 1 Wait, what? It's going to be electric. All right.
See you guys. Love you guys.
Keep prices writing, me.