Chris Bosh, DK Metcalf, MLB/NBA Postseason and Bill O'Brien Fired

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You get $10 for free, $10 for the ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, October 7th, and the Heat are dead.
Not dead yet. The Heat are H-E-A-T-D-E-A-D.
It's unseasonably cool. The Heat's not dead yet.
We could have another heat wave come back. I think that if they win the next game, I think that they might make it to game six.
They gave it their all. They tried very, very hard.
Valiant effort from Bam to come back from injury. There's no way that he's 100%.
But they didn't count on the Lakers' best player, Contavious Caldwell PopePope. Okay.
And the referees as well. Yeah, the refs, yeah, whatever.
I mean, the Lakers get every call. You just got to know that's going to happen.
They also didn't count on Mark Jackson breaking out the best call, maybe in the history of sports, not all heroes wear capes. No, that would have been great.
What he actually said was a hero isn't just a sandwich. Oh, nice.
I actually like that. He zigged on us.
We didn't expect that. But yeah, I don't know, man.
The Heat, it's unfortunate because I'm not going to make excuses and say that this doesn't count as a finals win for LeBron, but you've got to think that if Dragic played this game, the he would probably win. Absolutely.
I mean, we can all agree on that. And not to mention Bam out there with one arm.
And it's not fair to have KCP all of a sudden be good, right? Like, that's not cool. Also, I think...
LeBron got hit in his dick. Like, dude, we've seen your dick.
And it's October. And it's October, right, Hank? There are no fans there.
No fans. It's October.
Who cares? It is October. Also, LeBron's very rested, taking the 10 seconds off prematurely in the last game.
Yes. So you get a very fast LeBron.
Load management is what they call that. And LeBron, look, here's where it's illegal to me.
LeBron, you can't just start making your free throws. That was a joke we had.
We were going with it. You missed your free throws now.
You sucked at free throws. Now he's all of a sudden making them.
I feel robbed of some joy there. Also, just one last spin zone on this game.
Looking at the Lakers roster, you had all the starters plus minus. Anthony Davis plus 17 Dwight Howard plus 3 Danny Green plus 5 KCP plus 8 LeBron James minus 2 we're not cherry picking that that's an actual stat are the Lakers better without LeBron? that's what many are asking I don't know if you put in Rondo instead of LeBron he's a plus 8 they probably win by 100 either way it was way, it was a good game, though.
Like the Heat, they tried. Good job, good effort.
Good job, good effort. That's what Magic Johnson actually said.
I think it was like last Friday night. He said like, that was a solid performance by the Heat in a loss.
All right, Jake, we'll give you 30 seconds to tell us how you feel about your Heat. It's a big night for Jake.
He had the heat die at the end. He's got the Yankees losing their pinstripes.
It's a bad night. Not Giancarlo Stanton.
Oh, Giancarlo Stanton hit a ball to the fucking moon. That guy, when he hits home runs, he and Aaron Judge, when they get a hold of one, it's awe-inspiring.
So there are two on, no out in the top of the ninth right now as we record this. Quickly, Jake, give us something about the Heat.
They are not dead yet. We're going to hear from Chris Bosh in a little bit.
He believes in the culture. Well, he did say they were going to win game four.
They didn't. They did not.
However, they're going to win this series in seven games. Nothing would make me my darling jake if they're if lebron blew a 3-1 lead that would be something we would never forget that then these would be the most important playoffs of the world we'd all agree right oh absolutely yes um all right so baseball uh we're gonna do more nba finals with chris bosh in a sec baseball in a plot twist that I didn't see coming I think as a podcast minus Jake because Jake plays the game the right way we all came to an independent thought today legitimately like I was down in Dallas so I wasn't even here.
I came back. I had this conversation

with someone earlier, and then I came back.

You guys were having this conversation.

I think we're going

to root for the Astros.

I'm 100% rooting for the Astros.

The bad guys.

I hated that Correa

quote, and I was like,

fuck these guys, but now that they've won a couple

and they're starting to hit dingers like they did, like George Springer had two today. I think Correa had two I was like fuck these guys but now they've won a couple and they're starting to hit dingers like they did like George Springer had two today I think Correa had two the other Monday it would make so many people angry and so many Yankee fans angry and so many Dodgers it would make so many people angry that I think we have to root for that now.
I think they're cheating again which is what I I said they should do when they got caught. They should just do the exact same thing they did last year.
Right now is the time where nobody's going to expect them to be cheating. They're like, oh, the Astros, they learned their lesson.
They're afraid of getting... Surely they won't install another buzzer system using vibrators that they keep between their buttcheeks when they step up to the plate.
No, I think that they are cheating, and I am all for it. I hope that it's Yankees-Astros, and I hope they beat the Yankees, and then I hope they play against the Dodgers.
At that point, I'm not sure if I'm going to root for the Astros or the Dodgers, but I'm probably going to root for the Astros. Yeah, it's one of those ones where, in theory, it's funny.
Here's where I'll land on this. I want the Astros to get to the World to the world series i do not want them to win because then you got to think about the other side of this this fence here soon as we get the other side then astros fans are going to be insufferable and be like yeah well we deserve it we're the best we didn't even need to cheat this time we can't have that well so i want them to bother everyone and then ultimately lose so then we can shit on them again.
That is the perfect arc. I agree with that.
The only thing I disagree with is the crown that I'll get to wear as a Nats fan if we're the team that disrupted the Astros dynasty. Two out of three.
They would have won. Yeah, they would have won three.
Two out of three isn't really a dynasty. We broke them up.
Three in a row, yeah. Yeah, we stopped them from becoming the team of the decade.
I don't want them to win the World Series. I want them to beat the Yankees, and then I want them to, like Kershaw, to throw a perfect game against them.
Does the commissioner hand them the trophy? I want Slam Diego to win. Yeah, Slam Diego would be fun.
Slam Diego would be awesome. Is there a ceremony where the commissioner has to hand the trophy to the astros probably that would be very very funny yes he had to do that you know he awards them uh with an extra dh to use next season yeah listen the astros are pissing people off and i like that yep but yeah i don't want them to go all the way because because you know astro fans.
And you know what the worst part is? Astro's fans are also James Harden fans. Not all of them.
And analytics fans. Not all of them.
And nerd ball fans. They're not all numbers fans.
I can't do that. They had their one.
They had their one. Okay? And also, the one that you can then always argue was tainted will then be tainted.
You're right. They won't have a legitimate.
Too many taints. Yeah, too many taints.
No, no. I'm saying if they win without cheating, they can claim the taint isn't real.
Yes. So I don't want that.
I don't want that. I'm still up in the air.
If it's Slam Diego, I'm rooting for them. Yep.
If it's the Dodgers, are you telling me that you're not going to root for an epic Clayton Kershaw meltdown in the playoffs? No, I'm still up in the air. If it's Slam Diego, I'm rooting for them.
If it's the Dodgers, are you telling me that you're not going to root for an epic Clayton Kershaw meltdown in the playoffs? No, man. He's at the end, man.
I just – at some point you kick a guy so much you just want to see him get back up. Everyone loves a redemption story.
You know what I mean? Do we? Yeah, at the end. At the end.
At the Astros. Good point, Hank.
No, at the very end you do want want, you know, like Tiger winning the Masters. Like, you want the guy.
Virginia. Virginia basketball.
Yeah, I mean, that one I don't care about. But, yeah, sure.
The Lightning winning the Stanley Cup after apologizing. Yeah, that one.
Exactly. Everyone remembers where they were when the Lightning won the World.
No, Virginia's good. Virginia's a good call.
But, yeah, you want. That's what America does.
Patriots after deflacate. Yep.
Okay. That's what America does Patriots after deflacate That's what America does though We beat people down and then we lift them back up And then when they get too good again We beat them back down again Mary and Barry Yeah, perfect, exactly Alright, what are you laughing about Hank? What are you going to say? I'm not Say it Hank, say it Oscar Mastorius I thought you were going to say The Challenger I wasn't going to say I wasn you going to say? I'm not.
Say it, Hank. Say it.
Oscar Mastorius. Oh, man.
I thought you were going to say the Challenger. I wasn't going to say the shuttle program.
I wasn't going to say that, for the record. Yeah, NASA's back, Hank.
I was not going to say that. Oh, my God.
I was not going to say that. Back and better than ever.
Yeah. Okay, let's recap some Monday Night Football.
Oh, should we first talk about our friend Bill O'Brien losing two jobs on Monday? Three jobs. Three jobs.
Offensive coordinator as well. They never announced that he lost offensive coordinator.
That's true. They said that they fired GM and head coach Bill O'Brien.
But he might stick around. At the very least, Bill O'Brien left some things behind in the office that he can come back and collect gradually over the course of the next four weeks.
Oh, one more thing, Romeo. You might want to add this into the game.
It would be hilarious if they were doing Zoom installs and he was just popping in. Just Zoom crashing.
Change the passwords. They did the thing where they let him talk to the press.
I like that. That's like a new trend.
Classy. Ron Rivera, they did that with him when he left the Carolina Panthers.
Yep. Bill O'Brien.
I think it's just like if you've been with the team for longer than – it's actually like if you took over the team when they really stunk and then you got them to the playoffs at least once and stayed there for five years, they let you say goodbye. The famous Ron Rivera when he said we won the NFC South three years in a row and failed to mention that one of those years I think they went 7-8-1.
They won the NFC South. They won the NFC South.
But Bill O'Brien has been fired. You have to think that if he had just done the play calling move like two weeks earlier, he might have been able to save this job.
I also think there's – I can't remember who said it, but someone was like, I think he might have done the – I think he might have been calling the plays like two weeks ago but waited to announce

it till the vikings game so he could take credit against a bad defense yeah so he was waiting and

then if they had like pulled off an upset against the steelers you've been like you know who's

calling the plays me instead he did it with the vikings game to publicly come out and be like hey

guess what guys the schedule's about to get softer i'm about to start calling the plays we're gonna

start winning football games he forgot the winning football games part and now we are back to my

Thank you. The schedule's about to get softer.
I'm about to start calling the plays. We're going to start winning football games.
He forgot the winning football games part. And now we are back to my favorite storyline in the world.
Deshaun Watson deserves better. Everyone's feeling bad.
Do you think he's going to come back? Do you think that DeAndre Hopkins is going to come back to Deshaun? That would be funny. DeAndre demanded a trade.
Now that this is over, I can come back. Yeah, this junkyard Kyle Shanahan bitch, Cliff Kingsbury, I'm done with him.
So we are back to the whole notion of Deshaun deserves better. But my other favorite storyline is interim head coaches.
And Romeo Cornell is technically their interim head coach. He doesn't do it for me as an interim head coach.
You want your interim head coach. It's actually like the five-year anniversary of Tony Sperano burying the football today when he was the Raiders interim head coach.
And you want your interim guy to come in and light a spark. Romeo, there's nothing about Romeo that screams spark.
I think he's the oldest head coach in the NFL right now. His motivational trick is like, okay, everybody has to get a library card.
I'm going to nap. Tell me what you read at the start of next meeting.
We're going to have some nap time in the middle of the afternoon. You're right, though.
The interim head coach is the best-case scenario is the guys love him so much that he becomes the head coach, Freddie Kitchens. Yeah.
He wasn't the interim head coach, but you know what I mean. Like, the guys, you know, cape for him so much that they're like, you got to make him head coach.
And then that always fails. But yeah, you want Dan Campbell playing Metallica, dressing the Dolphins in all black.
Coach O at USC and LSU was legendary, who then he became the LSU head coach. That's what you aspire for.
Romeo Cornell, they're just playing out the string. And it's early to play out the string.
Yes. You want your interim head coach to be the substitute teacher that has an open carry license.
Romeo Cornell is the substitute teacher that comes in and just falls asleep at the desk. Yeah.
And then every now and then wakes up and yells at someone. Yeah.
Been like, you better stop fucking around back there, and then falls back asleep. Romeo's going to wheel in the TV cart that we all saw back in elementary school,

put on Bill Nye, the science guy,

and fall asleep when he turns the lights out.

And one of the kids is going to steal the remote and turn off the TV,

and Romeo's going to lose it trying to figure out what's going on.

Technology's not his strong suit.

What were you going to say, Jake?

Not only the oldest head coach right now via NFL research,

the oldest person to coach a game in the history of the NFL at 73.

Oh, wow.

I feel like Bill Parcells still got one more run in him.

What do you think about Jeff Fisher?

Bring Jeff Fisher to Houston,

have him move the team to Tennessee,

and then move the team to LA.

I like that.

The Los Angeles Texans.

Too bad for Bill O'Brien.

I'm going to miss that chin.

He's going to go somewhere.

Another notch on Bill Belichick's

I'll let you free, and then you can fuck up a franchise belt.

Yes, this was actually his masterpiece. It was like they got a great quarterback.
They have probably the best wide receiver in the NFL. Bill, I need you to trade away Deshaun Watt.
I need you to trade away DeAndre Hopkins to the NFC for me. Yes, ruin it.
So that was the Bill O'Brien news.

We had Monday Night Football, double Monday Night Football, which was very confusing. By the way, hey, real quick.
It just dawned on me right now. This timing makes no sense to fire Bill O'Brien.
No. It makes absolutely no sense because you're going to let him trade away your franchise's best player.
Then you're going to give him four games and then fire him after that. Wait, wait the assumption that the texans are like a franchise that does smart things that's true i'm just saying so in my mind it makes perfect sense this is exactly what a dumb franchise would do let their coach become their gm in a power struggle have him wreck everything and then fire him four games in the season that's's true.
That's true. That's exactly what it's done for Anjaj to do.
We're not talking about the Steelers or the Patriots or the Seahawks. We're talking about the Houston Texans.
This makes sense. I think I realized also what's pissing me off about this is that it's thrown off the whole timetable of when we expect bad coaches to be fired.
Yes. It's so early.
People are saying, like, Dan Dan Quinn after that loss, he's going to get fired before he gets on the plane.

No, no, no, no, no. These firings happen either in the bye week or like week 10 at the early.

It's like after Thanksgiving.

I saw a tweet today about Dan Quinn, and it was a report from a Falcons beat reporter.

And he said, according to my sources,

Dan Quinn is not expected to be fired today.

That's when you know you're in trouble.

When they're now reporting on days you don't get fired.

He's doing the key card update.

Dan Quinn accessed the Atlanta Falcons facility today.

Nothing about tomorrow.

But today, Tuesday, Dan Quinn kept his job.

If I may, I think that Dan Quinn will be just fine, fine he said after the game and i'm paraphrasing here probably no one's more upset than i am i'm gonna take a long look in the mirror it starts and it ends with me oh there you go i'm in full evaluation process from the top down and uh we're looking forward to getting this thing turned around because we've got a great team they deserve better better. The fans deserve better.
So it starts with me. Again, I'm looking into the mirror.
And you know what? The Falcons, they're going to probably, I'm going to look up their schedule real quick, but they're probably going to play for Dan Quinchop. I'll say something nice about the Falcons.
They were trying on Monday Night Football. They weren't a dead football team.
Now, Matt Ryan, he's starting to see ghosts.

He's starting to see ghosts.

He's starting to – there's a couple plays where you're like,

what is he looking at?

But they still have all those first-rounders.

All right, so the Falcons play the Panthers, the Vikings, the Lions,

the Panthers, the Broncos.

Okay.

They could start – they could –

Yeah.

Look, if you want to talk about schedule fucked,

they started the season against the Seahawks, which some may say is the second, third best team in the league. They lost in that crazy game against the Cowboys.
They lost in that crazy game against the Bears. Three and one Bears.
And then they played against the Packers, who some may say are the top three team in the league. So you want to talk about schedule fucked.
The Falcons are up there for it. I think Dan Quinn might keep his job.
I think he might rattle off enough wins to get to 8-8 and keep this goddamn job. I mean, the next five games that you just mentioned right there, they seem all winnable.
They could go. They could go.
Well, what's one of my three things I'm going to do this year? Respect Teddy Bridgewater more. That's right.
So they're not going to beat the Panthers. Okay.
But Vikings, Lions, Panthers twice, and Broncos. That feels like we could be sitting here halfway through the season and could be like, the Falcons are 3-5.
And they're heating up. They're on a roll.
Yeah. I think Dan Quinn, maybe spend less time looking in the mirror, more time looking at opponents running backs in the flat.

That would work.

That would be nice.

If they could guard a running back who's very obviously about to catch a pass and scoot for a four-yard first down.

Yes.

I'm also, so that game, I mean, Aaron Rodgers just decided he's going to be an MVP again.

I'm so fucking sick of this shit.

The hard count's back.

Hard count's back.

And he's messing with people.

He's getting cocky with it.

His hard count this week, he said hard count instead of hike. Yeah.
Because he knows everyone's listening. Are you okay? I got a frog in my throat.
You got the cocoa? No, I got a frog in my throat. That's usually Billy's territory.
It'd be deep throat and toads. I'm good.
You okay? Yes, good. Just don't let it finish.
Yes. But yeah.
Ribbit, ribbit. Aaron Rodgers psyching people out with a hard count.
And this fucking Tanyan guy, get out of here, man. They don't – the Packers – don't do this, Packers.
The Packers are – and I know it's because Aaron Rodgers is not the receivers, but they are the number one team of let's just throw random dudes out there and they'll just ball out. Well, it was funny because Aaron Rodgers was laughing, and people were like why is he laughing so much? It's because it's a big joke to him that he's able to complete touchdown passes to his tight end.
He never has a good tight end. That game also, there's nothing more demoralizing than...
I've never seen an overkiller quite like that sequence of events where the Packers got stopped fourth and goal on the one,

and then the Falcons went on a 10-minute, 20-play field goal drive.

And it was a 94-yard drive, right?

Just sucked the life out of everything.

Yeah, that was tough.

It really did.

I knew it was over.

I also had the over on that one.

So the other game, the Chiefs-Patriots,

this was like a glimpse into an alternate reality

of what would happen if Bill Belichick didn't have a quarterback because holy shit, Brian Hoyer. There was a yabbo for the Rays there.
Brian Hoyer. I'll say some nice things about Brian Hoyer.
He's not afraid to stay in the pocket even while he's getting sacked and there's a rush in front of him. And he has no timeouts.
has no timeouts he had he's fearless he is cool under pressure back there internal clock it just never expires he does not see ghosts no no he sees the player in front of him sacking him yes and he's still like i can get out of this bruce willis at the start of the sixth sense yeah for the first five minutes so that game um h, it was a winnable game. Did we ever get an explanation on the Patrick Mahomes turnover? Was it Belichick was complaining and missed it? No, the ref report or whatever came out today, and they said that they called him down because he was getting sacked.
But you could hear there wasn't a whistle. And credit to Dave Tobe.
So Belichick couldn't challenge it. Oh, okay.
He couldn't challenge it. So Dave Tobe, though, who's the best special teams coach in the league, he used to coach the Bears when they had Hester in that run.
But I've never seen a punt get off faster. That thing, you blinked and that punt was off.
Yeah, and Belichick was out on the field, took off both of his masks to tell you at the refs about that one. He was pissed off.
I don't blame him for being mad, but I will say Stidham has a great handoff. His handoffs look crisp.
Nice handoff. The eyeball test, he passed it.
Quarterback controversy, New England? I mean, Stidham, it's one of those things where it's like you can't really judge a guy until he at least starts a few games. If you're coming in as the backup, it's not really a fair sample size.
Can we also, I know I ranted about this, I think, last week when Matthew Berry tweeted that 31 teams passed on Cam Newton, which was crazy to say, but this, like, the Patriots were thinking about starting Jarrett Stidham over Cam Newton. No, they weren't.
That was like Boston Radio. No, they weren't.
Bill Belichick was playing mind games with everyone. That was primetime Corona when there was no sports going on and there was nothing to talk about.
But that also is, that's a credit to Belichick and the coaching job that he's done in his entire career where the fastest way for a guy to get hype is for Belichick to draft you in the late rounds as a quarterback. Like Ryan Mallett, Matt Castle, like you just name these guys.
Brian Hoyer. You can name any guy who he drafts, and everyone's like, ooh, what did he see that we didn't see? No, they probably just stung.
I think Brian Flores was a coach that before the season started wouldn't even acknowledge that Cam was going to be the starting quarterback. He was like, I think they're going to have an open competition.
Those other guys are pretty good. That's another classic.
That's Belichick telling his former disciple what to say to the media to gas up Hoyer. Right.
Jacoby Brissett. But isn't, yeah, it is the greatest thing.
Jimmy Garoppolo. The greatest job you can have in all of sports is to be like a fifth rounder that gets drafted by Bill Belichick.
Because smart by him, he always like, it feels like he takes a quarterback every other year, which smart organizations do that. But he instantly gets bumped up to, like, a second rounder just by...
I mean, it happens all the time with trades, too. If Belichick does a trade, everyone's like, well, that guy's washed up.
There's got to be something about him. Yeah.
He's in everyone's head. Yeah, and so, like, Mohamed Sanu, they picked him up last year, and everybody was like, what a classic Belichick find.
I think Mohamed Sanu's been cut by two teams since the Patriots cut him. So, yeah, everyone thinks automatically you go there, there's something about you.
Like, Bielema's going to get a job soon. Or is he on the Giants now? He's on the Giants.
Remember, he had to run laps. We had to run sprints with Joe Judge.
My only concern about Cam is that they're doing all the contact tracing and testing of the other Patriots.

Zero other New England Patriots besides Cam have tested positive. Not true.
One did today. Sorry.
Bill Murray. Practice squad.
Yeah, Bill Murray. He's everywhere.
Hilarious. No starters.
Nobody on the offense has tested positive. Is that an indictment on Cam Newton's leadership? Ooh.
Because you know that if Tom Brady had corona when he was in New England, Julian Edelman would be the one driving him around outside the hospital without a mask on, waving to his fans. Julian would test positive within 30 seconds of Tom Brady testing positive.
I'd love to see what concoction Alex Guerrero would come up with to cure corona for Tom Brady. Hose water.
We drank it as a kid. Eat this nickel.
Yeah. Have some cabbage and some hose water.
Yeah, I'm going to make a broth out of loose change in my pockets, and we're going to add in some eye of newt, and we're going to- I'm going to give you a deep tissue massage in your throat. I'm going to need every tomato in New England exported to the state of New York.
i can't have tomatoes within three states of making this braw alex guerrero has definitely like pulled tom brady aside during the pandemic been like hey man um i'm loyal to you first and i'm here to do a job for you but if they call upon me to to find a vaccine for this coronavirus i got one like he's like i'm not listen i'm my hand up, but if they ask me, I can fix this thing. It's just drink a lot of water.
You need to double your water intake. Positive thoughts.
Positive thoughts and water. Wear a copper undershirt to bed and then sleep with this crystal underneath your pillow.
Oh, man. All right.
So that was Monday Night Football, the double Monday Night Football. I love the two planes that the Patriots took to.
It's like this is the sick plane. This is the death plane.
Yeah, this is Spirit Airlines, and then this is the real plane. This is JetBlue.
I have to admit something. In a moment that I'm having more and more dad moments, but when this kickoff started at 8.50, I audibly said, this is too late for me.
Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know what those 30 minutes did, but I was like, I watched the whole game, but I still said, I was like, Jesus Christ, it's fucking late.
Well, I think it was because the Patriots game had started and ended, and you're like, oh, this is 7 o'clock, it's over at 9.30, like, this is awesome. It was, I mean, it's every father in America.
Any game that starts past 8 o'clock, they're just like, no, too late. Dad's strength expires when the sun goes down.
Maybe wake up in the fourth quarter on the couch and be like, what happened? Okay, got it. I do think it was a good game for the Chiefs to win ugly.
They proved that they can win a game where they don't look like their offense is unstoppable. This is what the Chiefs are now, too, is that you can stop them for a quarter or two, but they'll figure out a way.
It's the same thing happened with the Chargers game. The Chargers played a great game, and we sat there watching it being like, well, I mean, a 70-yard touchdown is going to happen at some point.
They always have that in their back sleeve. Obviously, the pick six was a bigger deal to make it look like a bigger of a blowout, but it just feels like the Chiefs are always just waiting, waiting, waiting to pounce.
Yeah, I'm just glad that Andy Reid seems to have made it out okay. That was my initial concern when the Patriots tested positive, when Cam Newton tested positive.
We can't have it. Andy Reid sort of coached that game from inside one of those big bubble balls, like the hamster balls or like the atlasphere from American Gladiators.
We can't have anything get to him. Just go and hit other people with it.
I love when people get knocked out. 2020 has been bad enough.
We lost Eddie Van Halen today. We cannot lose.
RIP. RIP Eddie.
Can't lose Andy Reid. Bobby Bowden got COVID.
Bobby's got it. We lost John Prine.
We got to keep Bobby alive. Lost Toots.
Yo, shout out Tommy Lasorda just fucking motoring on.

Just grooving.

He just got...

Yeah, knock on wood.

Knock on wood.

Tommy Lasorda probably...

He probably has the antibodies from the Spanish flu in 1918.

He would punch Corona in the face.

Yeah, he would.

He'd get into a fight with it.

No, he would mix it up with some gravy on a Sunday afternoon

and eat it with some meatballs.

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Okay. So they took what we did last time.
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Nice, Jake. Good job, Jake.
That actually, if you slow it down, it spelled F-U-C-K. Fuck.
Did it really? Yeah. If you play it reverse, it says Paul is dead.
Fuck. I will say, PFT caught me off the air.
If the Yankees play the Astros and things go poorly, it's building. It could build up quickly.
Jake dropped a hard F-bomb at his desk today, and I just looked at him. I said, my stars.
Yes. Oh, my lanta.
How dare you. Oh, my lanta.
All right, Buckets. Hank.
Hot seat or Coulton? My hot seat is Doc Rivers. Okay.
Didn't we? Oh, that was who's back. And this is for a different reason.
So he was doing an interview. He's the new Sixers head coach.
Yep. And in this interview, he was saying he is going to get rid of the Doc Rivers nickname and just go by Glenn.
And somehow he thinks that that's just going to happen. Yeah, that doesn't happen.
You don't go from a Doc to a Glenn. Because there's only one Doc in Philly, and that's Dr.
J. But it's like, dude, your name is Doc Rivers.
That was a nice press conference quip. But yeah, no, you're Doc.
No one's going to be Glenn Rivers. Also, can't stop the Doc.
I mean, you really can't get cooler than be calling Doc.

Like, that's the coolest nickname to have.

You should actually just embrace it and rock like a big white lab coat on the sidelines.

That'd be cool.

Yes.

Maybe actually you could trick Joel Embiid into losing some weight.

Yeah.

He'd be like, hey, Joel, it's me, Doc.

You're fat.

Wearing a stethoscope.

Hey, Ben Simmons, you're actually right-handed.

Yeah.

Hey, Joel, you're technically obese.

We're going to have to cut down the Shirley Temples.

Honestly, that's my hot seat.

My cool throne is Storms. Oh, like?

Hurricane Delta.

Yes.

It's coming to the Gulf Coast bad.

But Seattle Storm won the WNBA championship.

Good.

Okay.

So Hurricane Delta is going to hit the...

Did they call it Delta because it's going to hit the Delta?

No, that's just the name.

I think... Storm won the WNBA championship.
Good. Okay.
So Hurricane Delta is going to hit the... Did they call it Delta because it's going to hit the Delta? No, that's just the name.
That's the name. Okay.
Yeah. We ran out of names.
Sue Bird? Sue Bird. Nice.
Dub. Got it.
Yep. Seattle basketball back.
Shout out to Spencer Hawes. Stop bitching about the Sonics and start respecting the...
WNBA. Storm.
Storm. storm I love WNBA I love betting on WNBA someday my Chicago Sky are gonna make it they did actually I went to it I people forget I went to a WNBA finals game by myself no content and someone took a picture of me because I had three empty seats next to me they said sitting with all your friends and it hurt my feelings but i also had a great time but they lost was your season ticket holder too i was didn't anybody do the darren reval tweet of like this this fat person had to buy three seats fun fact that was the person who screenshotted that one and got darren in trouble i loved that thank you for your service yes appreciate it uh uh yes someone whoever tweeted that at the beginning whoever actually took that picture um tweet that out and i'll retweet it again it's a very funny picture of me sitting with no one my hot seat is jerry qui i think i pronounced that right billy did i say that right i've no jerry coy it's on your seat it's on your seat uh no it's the mascot for arsenal oh They dismissed.
They sacked. Excuse me.
It's England. They sacked their long-serving mascot on the same day they spent millions.
Well, he's a dinosaur. Oh.
So maybe. Wait, they're getting rid of the animal or the guy in the animal? On the same day that they paid a fee of 45 million quid.
That's a lot of quid. For Atletico Madrid's Thomas Partey, and that was talking soccer, they sacked the person who portrayed club mascot Gunnar Soros.
It's a bad con. Oh, I like Gunnar Soros.
That's a good name. You're right, Hank.
That is a bad... They overpaid.
Yeah. They overpaid.
Gunnar Soros. That's classic Atletico Madrid.
So Gunnar Soros lost a job. He had been in the role since 1993.
Very depressing. Dude.
That is a great name. And the transfer window in soccer is actually awesome.
Gunnar Sour should go in the transfer window. They should do that for every sport though because you basically have one day where, I mean obviously it's like a trade deadline, but just buy and sell.
I mean, how fun would it be if in a football season you could loan out a player like Deshaun Watson right now? If the Texans start 1-6, a team could be like, all right, we'll pay Deshaun Watson, we'll pay the Texans $60 million for Deshaun Watson for the rest of the year. Yeah, I mean, that would be awesome.
Then he goes back? Yeah, you can. You can do that.
So if this guy has a contract with Atletico, but then he goes to his team. Sometimes you can do it on loan.
I also might have made up some of this. So Jerry, I feel like the loan thing.
But it made sense when I said it. I said it confidently.
The person who gets the transfer and then he just stays there. He goes on loan.
But he can also go on loan and come back. He can just, like an open relationship.
Yeah.

He's like, Guntersaurus could have a hall pass where he's like, you know what?

I'll go mascot for the Astros.

Yeah.

It would be sick, though, if we just had to, you can just pay whatever you want for a player.

That'd be sick.

Guntersaurus, open invite.

The football team needs a mascot.

We're going to change the bullets.

We're not going to get a guy named Guntersaurus.

Yeah, but Guntersaurus. Well, no, that's the nickname of the fans.
We're going to go back. They're the Gunners.
The Gunnersaurus. No, they're the Gunners.
Yes, I know. Yeah, yeah.
I'm where? Arsenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know. Gunners.
I know. I don't know if you know EPL like I do.
Oh, I know Arsenal. Eh.
Name one of their players. Thierry Henry.
Boom. Giroud.
Oliver Giroud. I'll name one.
Thomas Pardee. Thomas Pardee.
He used to play at Atletico Madrid, didn't he? Last year. Oh, yeah.
I think he got transferred. Yeah, he got transferred over.
For a lot of money. So, yeah.
I guess we're both Arsenal experts over here. Arsenal sucks.
That's all I know. Cool throne is Mike Tomlin's thesaurus.
Yeah. So, Mike Tomlin gave a press conference day.
They asked him, what was different about this weekend? How did your team spend the time when they had an unexpected bye week? His answer was, we took a weekend to observe competition on a global perspective. Which it sounds like somebody making up a fake job experience for their resume.
Like really embellishing what they did to sound smart. It's like our guys.
We watch the red zone. We watch football for two days on television.
But really, when you get down to what we did was we observed competition. Yeah.
On a global perspective. We watched all the games.
He also said the Eagles don't have a bunch of injuries. They have a lack of availability at the wide receiver position.
I love his thesaurus. Big Ben doesn't have a porn addiction.
He's just an enthusiast when it comes to observing gashes. He's an internet enthusiast.
Yes. Yeah.
WebMD, he's not a porn addict who's also a hypochondriac. He just loves observing and notifying gashes in their native environment.
Private mode. That's all he's addicted to.
Yes. Incognito specialist.
All right, my hot seat is Twitter. So, unfortunately, you all probably thought to yourself, Twitter is our one place that we can escape from this world, from politics, from all that stuff.
It feels like just yesterday there was no politics on Twitter. Well, unfortunately, that no longer is the case because Keith Olbermann has left ESPN and he is starting a political show for the presidential race.
He actually did a periscope and he said, did you think I was going to sit out this election season? And I have to confidently say I did not think for one second. Where's Keith Olbermann been? He hasn't been tweeting, sir, resign.
Yeah, I know, but I wasn't like, man, is Keith Olbermann sitting out this political season? I think maybe not allowed to tweet whatever. No, I know that.
But what I'm saying is at no point was I missing Keith Olbermann tweeting about politics. I'm really interested to see which side he's going to take.
Because he was at ESPN, we don't know. Keith Olbermann's just been building up these takes.
He should do a gender reveal for who he's going to be voting for. It was very Keith Olbermann being like, you know what, Twitter, you probably were wondering who will tell the truth? Who will talk about politics? Well, me, Keith Olbermann.'m here to do it what's what's the show going to be called my guess is the keith keith olberman show starring keith olberman it's keith olberman youtube i think he said the the i think he said this presidential election is for the worst person on earth or something i think that might be what he calls it okay i don't know i'm already out i.
I mean, I don't follow him. Actually, the best Keith Olbermann is when he is just only tweeting, sir, resign, sir.
Well, you know what? I didn't even unfollow him for his politics. I unfollowed him because every fucking day he tweets some sad dog that needs to be adopted.
It's like Sarah McLachlan commercial all the time. It's even worse than that because he'll be like, this dog is going to be executed in the next five minutes.
Do something. Unless

people retweet this. You fucking do

something. Unless this tweet has 50,000 retweets

this dog will be put down. Yeah.

You wake up on a Tuesday morning

and it's just Keith Olman like this dog was

beaten and dragged and is about to be

killed and put out of its mercy

unless someone adopts it right now Twitter.

It's really just the reverse Rex Chapman.

Yeah. Just like taking dogs hostage.
Yes. Using our emotions against us.
Dogs, bro. All right.
My cool throne is Earth because Billy Sheet says that there's three huge asteroids that will skim past Earth tomorrow. Skim it.
I'm so fucking sick of asteroids. Do something.
They're all talk, no walk. Seriously.
This is what we said about Corona, too, back in February. Don't care.
Asteroids do something. They haven't won shit in, what, 60,000 years? I have no idea.
When did it hit? Millions of years. 63 million.
63 million years. Now, guttersource is extinct.
Did you know that for a fact? It's 6.3 billion. Which one is it? That's a big difference.
630,000. 63 days.
It's been 63 days since we've been hit by an asteroid. Killed the thesauruses.
I'm just saying it. You know what? If no one else will do it, I'll call them out.
Asteroids, you're on my shit list. You're frauds.
You're frauds. Yeah.
If it shows up to Earth, it will probably fuck me up. But you're frauds right now.
65 million years ago. 65 million.
There we go, Billy. In the words of Mercury Morris, don't talk to me when you're on my block.
Talk to me when you're at my door. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
All right, Billy. Hot seat, cool throne.
Trash shorts. My hot seat is the Baby Shark song.
So a court ruled that playing the Baby Shark song on repeat is basically torture and that it's illegal so you can't play the baby shark song on repeat because technically torture my cool throne is our ceo eric rinardini yes signed the wwe board slay queen huge do you think that she's going to get stunned i kind of i think that's initiation it's the icebreaker at WWE headquarters is they put a bunch of cinnamon in front of you. You can't sneeze, and then they stun you.
We don't really do this anymore, but explain it to Hank. I don't really understand boards in general.
It's pretty much just important people that are smart. But don't work for the company.
Yeah, and they help make decisions. It's like one of those things.
But those things for a company they don't work for yeah it's like other companies go they they send their ceos on loan for an afternoon to go to a meeting and then advise the other company right they can do right it's like cross-pollination it helps you like a new set of eyes actually this is great if anyone out there who has a company that needs a board uh member we will offer up hank's services to sit on your board and report back i would love to see that he can literally just be a board i want legally i want legally for hank to be on a board and uh he will get bored while while listening to it so we're not going to say he's going to do anything good he's got great ideas ideas. Yeah, that's true.
Actually, I think the best type of company for Hank to work with... Elon, if you're listening, put me on the board.
It should be a company that Hank has nothing idea, no idea about what they do as a company. Like, put them on a biotech board.
Yeah. Just let your brain cook on it.
Alright. Car seat.
Give me some options. Okay, perfect.
Alright, let's get to our interviews. We've got two coming up.
Chris Bosh, and then we're going to have DK Metcalf after that. Before we get to Chris Bosh, our friends from...
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See ahs.com slash contracts for coverage details limitations and exclusions okay here he is chris bosh okay we now welcome on recurring guest friend of the program two-time nba champion 11-time nba all-star it is chris bosh uh chris has a single out. So he's been working on his music.
Last time he was in studio, we talked about his music. They released the single I Want It All October 2nd through Daddy Jack Records.
Awesome. Everyone should go listen to it.
This is exciting. So the song is about Kobe, and it's a tribute to Kobe, correct? Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, you know, capturing music, come to find out, is, you know, a very challenging thing. And working with the artists, and you really befriend the people that you work with or get in a good working situation with guys.
And, you know, you just kind of got, you have to kind of ride the wave and obviously mean being a basketball player, you know, that inspires a lot of, a lot of the writing and at the same time, it's just how we were feeling especially with, you know, everything happening so fast. Nobody really thought that he were going to be in the finals.
We were just so inspired. We just made something.
I was able to call on the contacts to make some things happen. It's a very intricate business, but I'm learning more day by day.
I appreciate you guys for the shout-out. That's what's up, man.
What's that like? What's the process like when you're writing a song or helping to produce it do you sit down at a piano do you do you help them compose or what's your what's your end of the bargain i'm not that nice um i have i pretty much uh started getting to know writers if at first you start out by yourself you know and um it's a very uh kind of lonely lonely beginning but you have to learn how to put things together and you learn what you learn. And then eventually, hopefully you run into somebody who's a writer or a performer or whatever it is.
And you notice that, okay, my music is cool, but there's no words on it. I'm, I can't sing.
I'm not one of those guys. I need somebody to somebody to sing on it and or or or rap on it or whatever it is and um you get to that point and then it's just you know really honing in on that and getting better and better at that so like for me it was like having like a lot of beats you know that's I pretty much started that became like my basketball you see what I'm saying so instead of like you know getting up in the morning and and shooting a thousand jumpers I would you know not make a thousand beats but you know what I'm saying like whatever the equivalent is yeah and um you know teaming up with guys this particular guy uh he's uh he's an artist I've been working with for the past couple years and you know you know, he's very talented, very great writer and an artist.
And, you know, we just make some stuff, play some music, vibe out and just record it and hope that something will happen. So you mentioned at the start there, no one expected the Heat to be in the finals.
Thankfully they won on Sunday night, so that we're going to run this on Wednesday, so there still is going to be a finals when we're talking. There will be a game five.
There will be a game five. I assume you're officially, you're rooting for the Heat, not LeBron, right? Well, I mean, to be honest with you, I have very close friends on both sides.
Not LeBron and not Eric Spolstra, you know, so if you could believe that. So, you know, it's just, you have to come to a point sometimes to where you just, you know, let the guys play and you stay out of it.
You just want to see guys represent themselves. Well, you want to see guys just play well and whoever wins wins.
But I got guys on both sides looking for their first ring, like very close friends. So it's tough.
I love it. So the Spolstra, I don't know if he's underrated anymore because everyone I think has given him the respect he deserves.
But what is it about him as a coach that he's able to get – people didn't expect the Heat to be in the heat to be in the finals they didn't expect him to win a game in the finals what is it about his system his coaching uh the culture that has has them in the finals and has him in the discussion of top three coach in the NBA I think most of all is consistency um that's what you want to see out of most coaches, really. You want them to be consistent.
He always has a message as far as the things he wants to implement. And, you know, X's and O's has its own place in the game as far as coaching is concerned.
And he's gotten better at that. always having a solid staff.
He's always surrounded with great guys around him like David Fisdale, Juwan Howard, my man DC, Chris Quinn, amongst others. And he's just a team first guy and just he's always trying to get better.
So he's really not worried about what the situation is what things call for what he's coming to work the next day and it's all about what can we do today to get better he always likes to say one percent better oh my goodness man he he's uh he's a true believer in that and and I think when you do that you just kind of stack your chips up and look back and see what you have. He's one of those guys.
He doesn't really worry too much about what tomorrow brings or what yesterday was. He's worried about right now.
And I think that's given him quite a bit of success. Yeah, and it looked like the game plan, or at least a big part of it in this most recent game was attack Anthony Davis, try to get him in foul trouble early because the lakers play different when he's got three fouls in the first half and he has to play different he has to play more conservatively for you i'm sure that there are probably some instances in your career where you knew that the game plan was to go at you try to get you in trouble early how do you continue to play like good physical defense with the understanding that these guys are doing everything that they can to jump into me, to make me leave my feet early, make mistakes so they can pick up a cheap one on me?

I think, you know, it just comes in with learning how to play, you know, play your own game. And I know Anthony, he's probably, you know, since getting to L.A., you know, I can relate as far as like having to take it to another level and finding out what those Western Conference finals levels are or the finals levels are, you know, just feeling that difference.
I think most importantly, like you just have to know time score in your situation as a player. So, hey, if they have a loose whistle, which means they're not calling too many fouls, you can be aggressive, be aggressive.
But the minute you pick up one, you might want to play a little loose. If they're if they're calling it tight, you know, you have to recognize those things and adjust your game accordingly, pretty much on the fly, which he'll do.
But look, it's hard to win game seven, man. I mean, not game seven.
Of course, it's hard to win game seven. It's hard to win game three if you're up 2-0.
Not in making any excuses or anything, but give credit to Heat for how they came out swinging. You know, their backs are against the wall.
They don't want to go home. Everybody's telling them they can't do something.
You know, you know, come on. We know the human nature.
You tell somebody they can can't do something I tell my four-year-old he can't do something he is going to walk his butt right in there and do it you know so that's just uh that's just human nature and and people have to understand how hard it is to win a championship yeah no that's true the the hungry dogs run faster kind of motto of you know the team that kind of wants it more in that given night. So one last question about the coaching staff.
I always love when players can point to one particular instance or game where maybe Spolstra or the coaching staff implemented a game plan, like in one of the heat runs that you had to two championships where you're like, oh man, they figured out this team put us in a spot like we knew they were going to do this and we were ready for it was there ever a moment that you had that where you went into a game and what they told you was going to happen happened exactly that way and you were able to execute and win man yes I think more of on, nothing particular where that one particular play happened.

Right.

But it was more so situations to where we wanted to get to.

So in particular,

one of the main things that we used against the Spurs was putting LeBron

off the ball, but you know, we, they, they kept running.

I forgot which particular play it was. It was strong, pretty much to a high screen and roll.
We would switch that with the foreman and LeBron would end up on Tony. You know, so figuring out those chess pieces to get the last like eight seconds or five seconds of the shot clock matchup that you want.
That's, that's what they're really good at. And that's what we did.
And I think you saw a lot of it last series with LeBron on Jamal Murray. Yeah.
You know, so just small things like that to where we could get the matchup that we want late in the clock, because in this particular series, when we were playing San Antonio, that San Antonio, that's where we would get burned for three is that

it's four seconds and somehow they make 18 passes to an open three.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's true.

I mean, those Spurs teams, they would always find the open guy

in that particular instance.

I still see him in my dreams. Yeah.
How many more years do you think that Udonis Haslam can play? Based on what you've seen physically, still looks good. Physically, it's not even about physically.
It's just if he wants to do it. I worked out with this dude a few times.
That was always one of our things, and he works hard. one of, he's going to be one of those guys where he's always going to be doing his off season and full season workouts.
That's how hard he works. You know, it's just a habit for him.
It's not even, it's not even something like the old guy getting off his boat, you know, and trying to go out there and no, he's out there in the heat, in the warehouse, big fan in the corner that doesn't do anything, but it's blowing hot, just hot air, and he's lifting and getting it in. And I've taken part in that, and I've seen what he does.
So he can play the game for as long as he wants to. As much as he brings really as a voice in that locker room, I mean, it's pretty much been grandfathered in what, uh, his potential is and what he could possibly do in the future.
Yeah. I saw before game two, Spolster said he almost, he almost started Haslam because Haslam gave a big speech in the locker room to fire everybody up.
That would have been great. Just put him in there for like two minutes, let him set the tone, maybe get a hard foul's lost nobody does that anymore man those are small things and you know what it's funny you said that I was looking at him and I'm like man that's one of those situations where you love to have UD as a teammate but then you hate it because he's going to be talking to you you know right right we we had plenty of those moments and we used to feed off of each other on that one and you know we had so many battles in practice just beating each other up you know you get to that point where and if you look at game one and game two you know you can you know you saw a lot of slouch and body language you could tell that he were kind of feeling sorry for themselves a little bit because you know everybody's hurt you eventually have to get over that and I know I pretty much can can think in my head what he probably said yes I love it um end of game three end of game three some people are saying LeBron walking off the court with 10 seconds left was uh Bush League made it all about LeBron trying to up upimmy's unbelievable performance which i think statistically was i saw a stat where it was like the second highest rated nba finals performance uh since they started tracking that stuff in like the mid 80s uh so yeah but some people are saying lebron kind of that was bush league not us but some people are saying that what would you say to that there's one game what is he supposed to stand there and say man Jimmy played a great game and you know give him a sports tap and give him a towel and give him some Gatorade and punch too like you know okay the game it wasn't like the game was over if he wants to walk off the floor then that's his choice I mean it's not that big of a deal um you know with that said I understand yeah I understand how with the finals and I think I heard some people saying well he was in the game which on that part you know it is what it is but look let me tell you something if LeBron wants to walk off the court then who's gonna stop him yeah it's just you know and and yeah and understand it, but I've been very mad after a loss, and I've walked off the court with time left.
So, you know, I'm sure that he really did not expect to lose that game and to play so well. You know, if he didn't have, we usually don't see him walk off if he doesn't have six turnovers.
I think that was the main thing. They didn't play up to their potential.
You know, and it is what it is. You walk off, and he made his choice.
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Are you shocked at all? LeBron just keeps, like, he's 35 now, going to be 36 in December, and when he wants to be, he just dominates everyone.
I think he does do the thing now where lebron

paces himself well and you can tell that he'll take a quarter or two where he won't be going to the basket non-stop because he's saving that energy which is very smart and savvy but are you shocked that this is still happening like this late into you know his career and how many years seen miles he's racked up yes and no I mean you know for one uh with the with the you know with you got to hold into regard the two years of retirement but our hero is MJ right he was 36 still playing on the biggest stage like when he hit that shot he was still the man in the league, you know? So I think every person that came into the league after that, I would assume if you're, especially if you're deemed the chosen one, you have pretty much the, you're eyeballing exactly what's possible and you have to put in the work that's one of the thing things that Bron does he's

he's done his research he's found that thing and he puts in the work daily so to see him still playing at a high level no I wish I was still playing at the level at a high level in the NBA at my age right now you know that's how I saw myself it just didn't happen for me yeah but to see him actually deliver with it is incredible.

But with that said, he has I mean, since we were always tell the story, I've been telling it a lot lately. And we were in our early 20s.
He was stretching twice a day. You know, he had the habits and the foresight back then.
I wasn't stretching, bro. I was eating McDonald's.
I was nothing wrong with McDonald's, but I was eating McDonald's, you know, whenever I wanted, I didn't stretch. I didn't take those, um, those precautions with my body, which it wasn't, it wasn't a thing back then, you know? So he was on it back then.
And I mean, this is pretty much, I think we're just now getting into the meat of his second prime, really, if you want to call it that. Because I only say that because I guess he took a year off from, you know, competing in the finals.
Now he's back. Right.
Right. So, you know, so.
When he does become a free agent, where would, where would you like to see LeBron go? Maybe goes, maybe goes to Boston, closes out his career there with Hank and the Celtics. To the Mecca maybe, to New York? How many years has he got? One more year after this year? I don't know.
I feel like he's always a free agent. Every summer we're going to be like, where's LeBron going? Yeah, well, I think that's definitely by design.
And at the same time, I think, yeah, I mean, you know, if guys would have thought about that back in the day or for the rules would have been like that where you can be just like oh man I got a couple championships I think I'll play here because there's a good team I mean you know that's kind of uh that's kind of tough to pass up if you can which city you can live in but you know the Lakers uh seem to be very serious about having in the run so i mean it's really really tough to see him kind of uh leave that on the table and go uh do something else but with that said you know you never know a year and two years from now totally different situation if you were starting a new team if you were a general manager and you had the option,

let's just say like for the next six years, who would you want on your team at the age

that they are now?

LeBron James or Jimmy Butler?

I don't even know how old Jimmy is.

I mean, I'm taking Bron, man.

Yeah, it's nothing against Jimmy, but yeah, I'm going to take Bron.

I was kind of joking

just he has another gear in his career i feel and this is just my philosophy um i guess i was

watching jason kidd on their bench one day and i'm like damn you know jason kidd magic johnson

what if he evolved his game into fitting that type of style where he's averaging like

16 17 18 points a game and 10 assists you know he can still do that and be an mvb candidate right

You know, he's averaging like 16, 17, 18 points a game and 10 assists. You know, he can still do that and be an MVP candidate.
Right. You know, he can, I still feel he can do that and still control the game because essentially he'd be going three-point line to three-point line and you just, you know.
But look, with that said, I'm sure he's thought about those things and, you know, as the game progresses, he's going to continue to his game. And we'll see how long he goes for.
Well, and he also has an alpha dog now with Anthony Davis. I mean, it's kind of Anthony Davis' team, right? Wouldn't you say? It's kind of his team.
What? Let me tell you, I've seen some players I'm jealous of. Bam out of Bayou and Anthony Davis.
Oh, man, I'm jealous of those guys, man. So envious because, one, with the Lakers, they feed AD.
Yeah. They give him the ball, and he's a problem down there.
And with Bam, just him getting the ball in those situations and him being able to read and react off of 100 screen and rolls and slips a game, oh, man. I mean their offensive systems and I put myself you know I'm the classic old guy now where I'm like well I would have you know blah blah blah but it's true no you're you're right that um I'm sure you've had this thought and it kind of sucks to have this thought but the way the game has evolved your skill set in your prime was perfect for today's NBA in terms of you know this we talk about the stretch five and how there's not really a center position anymore like that you probably look at that and salivate and say man if I were 25 years old right now yeah oh forget about that if I was 35 I'd have been all right I was kind of you know I kind of start seeing I didn't know it was going to be like the as fast as it is now but you start seeing the trends and I was smart enough to be like okay in my last year in the league I'm gonna shoot you know it was a point to shoot more threes you know four or five threes a game but then it got to the point where you know it's funny your whole career you don't want to the five.
Then you get a little older and say, hey, man, I think that five position is pretty good for me. But we had Hassan at the time, you know, so we were a bit unique in our attack.
But, yeah, I can't help but see it every time. Every time I see the league playing now, just, man, I just wish I would have could have had, that was my dream to have that, I guess, twilight phase in my career, trying to figure it out in this new league.
And I liked where it was going. I was just trying to, you know, put my imprint on it even more.
Yeah. We're trying to figure out if this is the hardest NBA championship to win or if it's the easiest, because it has to be one or the other.
There's no room for nuance in our brain. So you could make the argument that it's a glorified AAU tournament, right?

That teams aren't playing that hard against each other.

You can make the other argument that everybody's isolated.

It's tough to focus on basketball if you're, you know,

just trapped inside Epcot center or whatever they are.

So if you have to pick one or two, which one? Is it hardest or the easiest i actually was saying this might be the hardest nba championship and this was like two months ago how not if you're the lakers think about it just think about this disney world yeah it's cool you can't even ride the rise who you going they're in the they're not in disney world they're in the bubble. They're in the Walt Disney World bubble.

Okay.

All right.

And I'm sure they've got a lot of amenities there.

But what guys are going there for three months,

you really got to want to win that thing, you know?

And, you know, I guess it's relative, you know,

and I think, you know, the teams that have three-peated,

put that to the side.

Back-to-back in three-peats put those to the side

because those years I feel are much more difficult

just in my short experience with it.

But, you know, all other titles as far as like a first year,

I definitely think this has definitely been one of the hardest.

You don't, I mean, you don't have any excuses where you're going to say,

I didn't have the regular energy from the fans.

Everybody's still watching. The games are still going to be played.
Whatever the intensity is, look, there's an NBA championship, you know, up for grabs. Nobody's going to say, oh, well, it was in the bubble.
Let me tell you something. If you lost it, they wouldn't say, oh, well, you know, it's cool.
It was like, you know, that was the easiest one to win. Yeah.
Like, damn, you lost it they wouldn't say ah well you know it's cool it was like you know that was the easiest one to win yeah like damn you lost it you know so that's what guys have to realize and that's why I love like I didn't think that he was going to make to make it to the finals I'll be honest with you but I knew like going into a situation like that the way that they're built in the way that they think I knew they were going to be a problem because they were coming they were going to be coming in ready to whoop ass and that's pretty much what it came down to with this uh this particular stretch of this season so in talking to guys who are in the bubble I would imagine team the one part that I would say argue is is harder when people probably from the outside look at it and think it might be easier because they're all together but I think it might be harder for team chemistry to be together non-stop you saw with the Clippers that fell apart and you're thinking like how did this fall apart well if they don't like each other and they spend every second with each other in a bubble without their families and can't go out you know to blow off some steam it probably gets on their nerves So do you, in talking to guys, have you noticed that it is like the teams that have the chemistry, the teams that get along, it's been a little bit easier than the teams that might not have that chemistry, might not have been through those wars together? I haven't had those conversations, but I can tell just from experience, yeah, you have to have a good, solid team, a well put together team really to win a championship period. You got to care about each other.
You have to, and you have to respect one another. Even if you don't like that person, you have to respect that person because you have to dive, which you used to have to dive in the stands, but let's just say hustle.
You have to hustle for that person person you have to do things that you want to don't want to do you know so that the team can be successful if you don't like the person to your left and your right let's be honest you're not gonna go that extra mile that just is what it is you're just always gonna have that thing in your mind and even're quick to the ball, it's going to be that little split second that'll make you go forward and then you'll be too late, you know? So yeah, I think it definitely brought things to a head if you didn't have a good team. And, you know, that's one thing about that's beautiful about basketball.
You can't cheat the game. You can't lie to the game.
I can look at you and look at how you're playing and see how the team is playing. I can see who's giving high fives to who.
I can see who's sitting next to who, who's talking to who. Unless you have that collective team thing going, then you're probably not going to win.
So I think the bubble was definitely one of those things that kind of exposed that. And that should always be at the top of guys' list.
How can we build a great team? What are those intangibles we need to do to be a great team before we even get on the court? It's a great point, and it is part of the reason why I love watching basketball is unlike any other sport where how the guys get along and play together and can read each other and know all right you're gonna like the one thing I love about the heat it seems like they're always cutting and they're always making cuts and and guys are you know what I mean like guys are always moving towards the basket and it just watching that when it works there's nothing prettier and then you see a team like the Clippers who flamed out and no one's moving and everyone's standing around and waiting for someone else to make a shot and you're right you can see the chemistry you can read it on a team whether they're really getting along and seeing on the same page or not for sure it's all about when time suck not when they're you know not when they're cool um you know not when it's easy it's about, not when it's easy. It's about when it's hard.
You know, it's about when nobody believes it. Sometimes it's even when you don't believe it.
Are you still going to come in to work the next day and be positive? You know, are you going to believe? Are you going to have that faith you need to have to get to what you need to get to? Yeah, I think you're right. It helps out the teams that are close, and it also really hurts the teams that are not close.
It kind of puts a line in the sand. And out of the East, the team that was very obviously the closest was the Heat.
On the West, it was the Nuggets, and then the Lakers are just all afraid that LeBron will trade them away if they don't hustle. So they're using fear as a motivation.
And so that's why they're going that extra mile not necessarily because they're super close so yeah you kind of see it working in real life one other thing that i noticed though i feel like the refs are getting bullied more in the bubble maybe it's because they can hear the players more they can hear the coaches more but um i've started to notice like usually if a ball goes out of bounds if it's a 50 50 call the first person that emphatically points like we got the ball going this way the refs are giving them that call i think that there's a difference not having there's no fans to be to bully them on i think more coaches should coach their team to be like hey no matter what happens when a ball goes out of bounds just you point as hard as you can immediately and there's a chance that the rest give it to you. Hey, look, it's an adjustment for everybody, all right? One thing I would love, I'm so glad you're talking about this, you know, if you're a ref, you're going to get a hard time, period.
I would just love the league to stop the instant replays. Yeah.
That is killing the game. I have turned, as a consumer of the product, I have turned the channel multiple times, and I didn't come back to watch the game because there's been an instant replay because when Luka Doncic did a Eurostep, somebody got tapped in the face, and it's a flagrant.
That's just a part of the game. You know, I'm not trying to be old school or anything, but I got whacked in the face plenty of times.
And, you know, you just keep playing. You know, to stop the game, to see and figure out if it's a flagrant one or a flavoring two, it's too much.
I really don't like it. I mean, getting smacked in the face is a part of the game.
If somebody does it intentionally, that's one thing, thing and maliciously but if you strip the ball on me and i just do this and and somebody you know i don't know it's crazy man it's crazy you're absolutely right it's it's happened i think in every sport where we have taken instant replay which is great like at the end of the game if if you want to find out who touched the ball last that's important absolutely i want to see that last two minutes i have no problem right right that's important the problem is we've taken instant replay to be like well now we'll have a perfectly officiated game which takes out the human element which is always going to be there that there's physicality and when you slow something down of course it's going to look like oh well jimmy hit Jimmy hit him in the face with that elbow going up for a layup.

It's like, that's just playoff basketball.

I agree.

I think there's a level of not to be like, I think there's also like the losers who are like 90s basketball.

That was when it was real.

No, they played in the 80s and they mugged each other and it kind of sucked.

Yeah, we don't want to clothesline you going to the free throw line.

Right.

We don't need that. But there is like, there's's gonna be bumps and things that play the game right right there's another element and i'm sure everybody's played pickup and you've been smacked in the face like oh man you good yeah yeah no no no let's you know check up let's keep let's keep playing ball right you know to what if it's like somebody gets smacked hold up everybody stop let's review that yes Everyone hates the dude in pickup who calls too many fouls.
That's really what it comes down to. And sometimes it also can benefit the team that just committed the foul in a weird way.
If they go back and they completely stop the game, take everybody out of a rhythm, it can totally derail a team that's playing really well at the moment if you have to wait five, six minutes to figure what's going to happen like these these things actually do have an effect on the game and then you have the aspect of like trying to figure out whether or not a play is reviewable before they go into the review and then that's another distraction from the game i'm with you like that is enough to make most people like just completely lose interest my intention span is usually 15 seconds anyways so if you take me out of that i going to pick up my phone. I'm going to like walk over my computer.
And that's even harder in the regular season, right? Yeah. I mean, if you're watching a regular season game and they take your attention away, that's no good for anybody.
You know what I mean? It's like, oh, was this a flagrant? Like, oh, he hit his eyelash. Hey, man, that was in the upper or whatever.
And that's two free throws on the ball. You and then and then if he does it again he's out the game a superstar you know and by then i don't even care because i'm watching mash or something like that so you're big mash guy smash of mash of course yeah with my grandma yeah with my grandma dude religiously i had i had one last question this has been great, Chris.
We appreciate it. You can go listen to Chris's new single, I Want It All.
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Equal housing opportunity. So give us your prediction for the rest of the finals, and then a follow-up.
Why do you think this doesn't really count as a finals win for LeBron if the Lakers do win? Because you were saying that before we started.

Does it really count?

Yeah, you were saying that before that, like, it's kind of an asterisk.

Before we started taping.

Before we started taping, you're like, this is an asterisk for LeBron.

We're not counting this.

And we're like, Chris, I thought you were friends.

No, I wasn't.

You guys are funny.

You're like, what the hell, man?

We thought you were cool with him, but we'll follow your lead on this one.

Go ahead and tell us.

Hey, let me tell you something.

I don't have any finals wins in 2020 or 19 or 18. Okay.
But, yeah, I mean, I think I got the heat taking game four, man. I won a series.
I don't know if Jimmy can give another performance like that, but I think he's given his team confidence. He inspired them and I look for them to play a much much better game of course it'll be a closer game down to the wire but yeah I got I got the heat and a dramatic finish and you know winner take all in the next two out of three love anything could happen you should tell them that you'll make you'll write a song about them if they win the NBA title.

Oh, come on.

I mean, that'll be instant.

We'll go right to the studio.

They win.

They start getting this thing closer and closer.

We'll be in the studio as it's happening.

Do you have Pitbull's number?

Call Pitbull up. Get him on the track, too.

I do have one last question.

I just thought of this.

If you were on the Heat right now, Chris Bosh, you're 36, right? 36? I'm 36, yes. 36.
You're a veteran. You're a wily veteran on the Heat right now.
Are you paying for Jimmy's coffee? No. Okay.
That's what I thought. Yeah, I'm a – Do you think it was Edonis's? You're at Disney World.
I'm going to get some of that Disney World coffee. Okay.
So you're boycotting Jimmy's. Now, are you saying, though – I wouldn't boycotting.
I wouldn't boycott. I just wouldn't buy it.
I wouldn't purchase it. Just steal it.
Would you – yeah, would you be like, Jimmy, give it to me. I'm the vet here.
Yeah, I just – you know, I see. And if he resisted, I'd be like, all right, cool.
You know, all right, cool. But I definitely try to just take coffee.
Like, yeah, I'm not paying for it.

I'm not paying for coffee, bro.

That's the thing is I think that people keep talking about Jimmy getting,

like, all this, you know, charging all his teammates.

It's because he's probably charging all – like, they got young guys.

You know, like, Duncan Robinson is paying for the coffee.

Myers Leonard is paying for the coffee.

Now, with that said, with that said, if he makes a great cup of coffee,

that's a whole other conversation.

I'm serious about my coffee.

You know, and I don't know.

They probably don't have cash in the bubble.

I don't know how that works.

I don't have a cash app and all that stuff like you guys.

You know what I'm saying?

I love cash.

You know what I mean?

But, like, if it's worth, what is it, $40 now? I think it's crazy. Is it up to $40 now? I think it's the finals pricing.
Oh, yeah, premium. Yeah, like the stadiums do.
Premium pricing. I mean, if it's worth, if I get that satisfaction, I pay $20, $40 for a cup of coffee and I get it, then okay.
But he's got to make a hell of a cup of coffee, and the the the cups need to be like you know you can you can take those home what are those ceramic yeah commemorative cups yeah autograph it uh-huh i need a picture yes jimmy probably need you to tweet me a shout out i need all that stuff jimmy probably did get an atm delivered just to his room and put like a a 999 surcharge on all the draws. So you can get cash.
Business savvy. He's got the logos.
He's got the hats. I mean, this is crazy.
The whole thing. Awesome.
Well, thank you, Chris. We really appreciate it, man.
And hopefully we get to see you in person sometime soon. Yeah, for sure, man.
I hope you guys are being safe. Yeah, definitely.
Definitely. Definitely.
definitely would love to come and see you guys up there uh again man you guys have uh one of the crazy spots in new york man it's great it's fun yeah and congrats on the music yeah appreciate that i appreciate that all right thanks man take it easy thanks chris that interview is brought to you by our great friends over we're gonna get right back

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And now, here's DK Metcalf.

Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest, my good friend, PFT's rival. Bitter enemy.
DK Metcalf from the Seattle Seahawks. Top five wide receiver.
I'm hearing that buzz. Well, but from me.
No, from everyone. I said

you were top five

wide receiver, actually, as much shit as I give you.

I said that on Sunday's show.

I looked you up. I looked this up

online. This is kind of back

handed compliment. NBC Sports

said for overreaction

Monday, DK Metcalf is a

top five wide receiver, which is like saying

he's not a top five wide receiver. Do you take any offense by that? No, I mean, I don't care because I know who I am in my mind.
But appreciate the support, bro. PFT.
Always. You know, you give me a lot of crap.
You know, I appreciate the support of calling me a top five wide receiver. But I'm going to just go back on Sundays and just continue to do me, continue to do my thing.
So when you say continue to do you, continue to do your thing, does that count dropping the ball or getting stripped at the one-yard line? Like, is that part of your thing now? I mean, you wouldn't understand because, you know, you've never been in front of a defender as far as I have. So, I mean, it was a stupid mistake on my part.
I really thought I burnt him bad and didn't think he was going to come back, you know, that hard. But, you know, I lived and I learned.
It definitely won't happen again. So real question, though, what happens, like, take us through the next five minutes on the sideline after that.
Because obviously you're a tremendous competitor. You beat yourself up.
But do people come up to you and, like, got the next one or someone like hey dude you're an idiot that's the worst part uh you know during the game i don't think people would call me you know an idiot like you know you shouldn't have done that but because i already know that but uh you know people are just trying to encourage me like just go get the next one just go get the next one it's cool just don't don't let it happen again uh so that's what everybody else was saying on the sideline but i was i was really just laughing it off because i was like i i really just did that like right i really just tried to walk into the end zone and the dude really stripped the ball away from me like knocked it out of my hands like it was just like one of those like damn like my heart sunk to my stomach right after it happened but um but you won you won i imagine yeah i imagine tell us what the what the um what it looked like did someone just walk into your room i mean it's my ghost open the door okay uh what was film like though the next day uh you know everybody they showed the clip a couple times I'm sad. You know do this can't don't let it happen again I was sick and tired of seeing the clip by then even the next day on a Monday and it just happened that Sunday uh Sunday evening I was tired of seeing it I know I got mad a couple times and I didn't talk to anybody during the meeting.
Like I was laser focused from, from that point on. But you know, I'm glad it happened to me and not anybody else though.
Yeah. Cause I know I could take.
Did Deshaun Jackson reach out to you and say, Hey man, it gets better. I'm pretty sure you, you should have reached out to me.
Well, I did. I did.
I pointed out. I didn't hear much from you.
I did reach out to you because I told you online I said DK,

the big red flag about him was his one-yard split was the slowest of any

wide receiver group.

So, like, that last yard that you got caught on,

that was something that scouts knew coming out of college.

You know what I would have liked to see, though, is you do that.

The one yard?

I guarantee I'm faster than you in a one-yard split. I promise you that.
I promise you that. Promise.
Also, are you concerned maybe you've lost a step because your cuts are too good now? Like you've lost that straight line speed. I don't lose a step, okay? I don't lose a step.
As you can see, you just told me Sunday that I pretty much gained a step, in my opinion, because you called me a top five wide receiver. Yeah, I did.
In that case, do I need to call you a top five kicker in order for you to feel happier? No, because I know the middle never changes. I'm my own worst critic, so if I start to tell myself I'm a top five kicker or I start hearing that from you, that's rat poison.
And I don't need that from media guys like you. I'm focused on doing my job day and day.
Oh, well, you only got to hear from me because you're not a top five kicker i start hearing that from you that's rat poison and i don't need that from media guys like you i'm just i'm focused on doing my job oh you only got to hear from me because you're not in the top five you're not even top 10 all right well one other thing that you said was you you came at me because you wanted to go viral you want to get your clicks in whatever that's fine you took a cheap shot and said that i don't at you on sundays which i've rectified by the way but then you accused me of having a man crush on you. Cause I tweet about you when you screw up.
Uh, in reality, I think you have a man crush on me because you're always checking my timeline after game, seeing what I might've said about you. You see, that's where you got to misconstrue it.
Okay. So I have to actually hear from other people.
That's where the real, like, you know, line come comes in. Like a real man would say something to me instead of sub tweeting me or just putting my name in a tweet like at me the at button is there for a reason well because i know you're going to search my you're going to search your name and you're i don't search my name i don't search my name people tag me in in what you say and then that's how i see it i don't i don't go looking for trouble how about this i'll have big cat tag you in my time every time when i mention you he'll snitch you on it yeah i got you what i bet that makes that makes sense yeah i i got you what do you say to fantasy owners that might have lost because you got stripped the one yard line uh put themselves in well that i mean they i don't personally, if I had you on my team, I probably wouldn't start me over you.
Exactly. So.
But I would also like you not to fumble at the one yard line. Is that too much to ask? I mean, put yourself in.
Alright, to every fantasy owner out there, let me ask you this. Do I not gain as many yards or do I not score on purpose? that is that something I don't do of course I want to score of course I want to win of course I want to gain as many yards as I can to help the team win fair anybody who has a problem with that like go start yourself go draft yourself I'm pretty sure you know it's probably impossible to do that so don't don't come at me when you know when you say I'm not trying my hardest when I really want to see myself do good as well as the team.
So I'm not out there just shitting the bed on purpose. What was good was you scored a touchdown later that game.
So you can always say, like, I scored that touchdown for my fantasy owners out there to give them a little taste because I did screw that one up. But if you lost in fantasy because DK fumbled that touchdown, please tag him tomorrow and let him know that you demand justice.
That's what real men do. Yes.
Tag people. All right, so I have some stats for you, though, because you have been having an unbelievable year.
Not to pump you up because I know you got confidence. But I saw this stat today, and it's eye-popping.
You have, right now you're averaging 25.2 yards per reception. That's insane.
16 catches, 403 yards, on pace for 64, 1,600 yards. Now, I've seen the player comp analogy that's been going around i actually kind of agree with it but to hall of famer do you model anything after him or i mean like when people say that are you like thank you i appreciate it but i got a long way to go or what what are your thoughts i do appreciate the the comparisons and all of that but um you know I'm'm my own person.
I'm not trying to be like anybody else. I'm trying to be like DK on the field.
I mean, the comparisons are great. They're comparing me to a Hall of Famer, but, you know, in my own mind I'm trying to be me and I'm trying to be the best me that I can be.
But that's a great comparison to have, a Hall of Famer.

So I think what you should do is you should lean into it,

and you should demand a trade and really be T.O.

I don't get the joke.

You do get the joke because you're smiling.

You should demand a trade.

Do some driveway sit-ups.

Do some driveway sit-ups.

You love working out short-listened cameras.

With smirching quarterback.

Go ahead.

I'm good where I'm at. I promise you.
I'm living good, as you can see. Yeah.
You got a massage room? Yeah. Your bedroom looks like my dorm room.
Your bedroom looks exactly like that. Where's your Boondock Saints poster? Is that behind the computer? I'm pretty sure y'all just pull out an air mattress and just right there.
Basically. Hey, kids, this is like a scared straight.
Hey, kids, this is what happens when you get drafted in the second round, not the first round. You end up with the bedroom like DK's.
I've noticed that you've been going real hard on the Russell Wilson for MVP train. You're leading that.
You've tweeted about him. And obviously I can see why you'd say that about your quarterback

so that he keeps passing you the ball.

But the fact is

he has twice as many interceptions as

Josh Allen does. So

that's kind of a problem. As a voter,

as an MVP voter, I look at mistakes

first. And that's kind

of a red flag for me. Are you concerned about that?

Who? Josh Allen

has half as many interceptions

as Russell Wilson.

Oh, I thought he had one.

No, I thought he had one. Remember, we're not counting.
He has two fewer interceptions than Russell Wilson does. 13 actually, if you count the John Brown one.
So exactly as many as Russell Wilson. Negative.
You must have seen the stats. Russell had 16 touchdowns.
I thought he had 13. I took away three because they were against the Cowboys.
That shouldn't count against that. You know what? He would have 17.
That's true. I mean, yeah, that is true.
Imagine if you cost him the MVP. Imagine if he has like 50 touchdown passes and Aaron Rodgers has 51.
What are you going to feel like then?

I'm pretty sure he has more rushing yards than Aaron Rodgers.

The next question.

You're tied for the lead league in receiving with

Stephon Diggs.

If you had one more yard, I bet that'd be nice.

Look, I'm not even tripping.

If this conversation was last week,

I'm pretty sure we would have gotten into a heated argument by now. Yeah, you're over it now.
It's good that we're doing this now. We let a week go by before we really gave you shit.
Yeah, we won. I'm not even tripping.
But last week, oh, yeah. I probably would have FaceTimed you after this.
Yeah. So I saw that you also put out a rap song.

You did a little collaboration with Shady.

Shady is the name of the song.

Or Shady's name of the song.

Who's the other guy on the track?

The guy that carries it?

My good friend from up here in Seattle, man.

His name is Rue.

He goes by King Kodo.

Okay.

You really like the auto-tune, huh?

How much auto-tune? You really like it? No, it's really my voice that's really my voice no auto tune on there not much nah i did notice that one of the lyrics you said that uh like it was kind of a diss at all the tough guys talking tough on twitter out there i couldn't help but feel like that was a slight at me hey if the shoe fits then you know, if you're putting out diss tracks on me. The only thing I have to say is why do you feel threatened by that lyric? Because I know you spend all the time scrolling my timeline.
You're probably looking at my timeline as you're recording that. And if you're dropping diss tracks on me, I'm not afraid to clap back.
All right? I don't even think i follow you yes you do you definitely you definitely follow

me because i'm faster than you oh got you there got you there got you there i walked i walked right in use that for your next diss track um i got a real question no i got a real question uh we've i think we've talked to a couple players since the season started we talked to mark ingram and Cam Jordan last week, but how is it with no fans?

Is it tough to get hyped up? Is it tough? Are there moments in the game where you kind of zone out? Maybe not when you're on the field, but on the sideline. How does the energy feel like from a player's perspective? Because from the fan perspective, it looks the same as long as they don't show the stands, obviously.
Exactly. Yeah.
I mean, it feels the same out there. I'm not going to lie.
We still just – they still keep the score. It's still a defense out there trying to stop you.
So, in my mind, the way it feels out there is not any different. I know we played in Miami Sunday, and just to have some fans in the stands, it did feel different in Miami.
It felt better, even though it was hot as hell out there, but it did feel better in Miami. I believe that.
I think the Steelers are having 7,500 fans this weekend. Even a few fans has to be better than no fans because it just feels like someone's actually watching you.
Exactly, yeah. I know up here in Seattle we've had two home games, and I mean just having our fans out there is going to make a big difference, whether it's 1,000, 2,000, or 50,000 is going to make a big difference.
But I would love for the Seahawks to allow a couple fans back in the stadium. PFT, could you imagine if Seahawk was there? That's his end zone that DK fumbled out of? He would have raged.
Seahawk and then like five guys wearing the receiver gloves? Yeah, they would have raged. Those guys get pissed.
There's one that has like a hawk, like the hawk wings too. Is there any chance? How about this? When we allow fans, you come to a game.
Okay. And I'll hold up a sign saying, don't stop.
Yeah, will you do like the Babe Ruth? Like for a sick kid, will you promise me one fumble out of the end zone? That would be amazing, though. If you scored a touchdown, it was like Cam Newton handing the ball to a three-year-old girl, and he just came up to me in the front row and gave me the ball.
Funny. You low-key funny.
I'm not giving you no problem. Well, thanks.
You're low-key a top-five receiver. Overreaction Wednesday.
Yeah. So, whose side are you on BK? I'm neutral in here.
I mean, obviously, if it really got down to it, like if PFT looked at me and gave me the look like, yo, we got to fuck DK up, we'd fuck you up. But up until that point, I'll still be friends with you.
Do you really think you can do that, though? Yeah, no, if he gave me that look. The two of us together, yeah.
Why'd your voice change? What do you mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would fuck you up.
Because he's in straight up. He's in fights.
You're not confident in that. He would throw hands, and I would fuck you up, and then I would do the dog piss on you.
The Ole Miss celebration. That's how you shoot.
When was the last time you got into a fight, DK? Fine, I'll tie my shoes. What's up? When was the last time you got into a fight? Middle school.
The fact that you had to think that long about it tells me you're not really an alpha. Me and Big Cat, we throw down like every week.
Yeah, just to stay sharp. Fight club.
How about this? How about this? The reason I had to think about it so long was I had to think about when the last time somebody really actually tried me. Oh.
And not over Twitter. Okay.
Well, so you're out of practice then is what I'm hearing. Yeah.
I'm what? You're out of practice then. What about on the football field? Have you ever tried to punch somebody who's wearing a helmet? No, that's dumb, to punch somebody wearing a helmet.
Yeah, you think too much. I would imagine most cornerbacks don't want to try you.
I would say that they probably don't want to try you. Have you talked to Lane Kiffin? We're on the lane train now.
I know. My boy PFT hit me up.
He's excited about it. Yeah.
No, I haven't talked to him, though. Okay, so we're bigger Ole Miss fans than you.
That's crazy. Crazy.
Do you think – What school are you supporting again? Ole Miss. Or as some people call, Ole Piss.
All right, so why are you wearing a Dayton shirt?

This is for Obi Toppin.

They don't have a football team.

They might.

No, I don't think they have a football team.

Dayton?

Yeah, they do.

They do?

Well, their football team doesn't matter.

Their basketball team ain't no stopping Obi Toppin future Chicago.

It seems like you're pretty nervous because you just start twisting your ankles.

So I'm going to go over the feet.

No, I always do this.

I'm actually loosening up my ankles in case this gets more heated.

In case it gets physical.

And I have to run out of the studio yeah what did you think about Lane Kiffin flushing the toilet during media day I mean I thought it was very funny in my opinion the guy's a character I think he was dropping a deuce definitely a deuce yeah he got up and dropping deuce. Cranked it out, hit the flush.
By the way, we were talking about this last week. How bad does that flight to Miami suck if you have to fly down there, play a game, and then fly back? It seems like that would ruin my entire week.
Yeah, it was terrible. Six hours on the plane.
You get a meal? Yeah. Are there beds on those planes? If I was an owner, I would get a jumbo jet and just put a bunch of king-size beds and have my team be real comfortable.
See, no, that's what y'all do. Right.
I need to keep over there. I'd be a great owner.
That's a fucking awesome owner. There are 70 people flying on the plane.
70 beds. You can fit that.
How many ping pong balls inside of a 747? I'm sorry, what's the question? How many ping pong balls inside of a 747? How many lights, what is it, lampposts in Manhattan? These are the type of questions. These are job interview questions.
These are the type of questions you're going to have to answer when you're out of the league in a couple years. Yeah, when you have to get a job working like Wolf of Wall Street type stuff.
This is how they figure out who the real smart people are. That's why I'm going to work hard now.
That's why I won't have to get a job. You have been unbelievable this year.
I do like the T.O. I can't believe you don't.
I guess you don't want to be compared to another guy, but the T.O. comparison is spot on.
I mean that in the best way. I you are.
I mean, for people, I would rather. I have no problem being compared to T.O., Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, or Julio.
Yeah. Hands down, no problem being compared.
I don't like being compared to anybody. But if somebody said those four, I'm going to take it with a grain of salt and just keep it pushing.
But, I mean, it's not a bad comparison. Do you have a nickname? You need a nickname to get some real buzz going about you i'm dk that's my nickname dk that's a pretty good nickname what about well no actually i looked this up because i googled dk metcalf nickname you gave yourself a nickname when you were in high school on your high school highlight reel optimus megacath whoa that pretty cool.
How did you think of that one?

You must have a lot of friends.

How high were you when you thought of Optimus Megacath?

You definitely didn't have any friends who were like, dude, that's lame.

No, no.

Everybody liked it.

Everybody was calling me Optimus or Money.

Those are my two nicknames in high school.

I have one last question.

I searched. Sometimes we do the, if you go on Google and you do people also ask, there'll be a bunch of questions.
And the first one is, how many passes has DK Metcalf dropped? Do you know the answer? I don't. Of his 74 catchable targets, the former Ole Miss standout had seven passes from star quarterback Russell Wilson slipped through his hands.
As a result, Metcalf finished tied with the fourth most drops in 2019. That's last year, though.
That's just what people ask. I didn't ask that.
That was Google. I didn't ask that.
I would never ask that. Are you mad that Russell doesn't throw as many interceptions? so that way you'll never have the stat, the Larry Fitzgerald stat, which is he has more tackles than dropped passes.
There you go. Compare me to another person.
Well, I'm saying you won't reach that because Russell selfishly doesn't throw as many interceptions. Yeah.
He doesn't allow you to get those tackle stats up. Yeah, but at least they're Googling my name for a reason.
True. I didn't ask that.
Again, I think you're having a great year. Top five.
T.O. Beast.
How many passes have I dropped this year? You dropped one last week. I did? I maybe made that up.
Yeah. Well, the fumble counts as like five in my book.
But it counts as one statistically, right? No, zero, actually. I think that counts as a caught pass, right? Yeah, it does.
And then a fumble. And then a fumble.
Yeah. Why don't you run at people and punch them in the face more like George Kittle does? Good question.
You're about the same size. I'm not George Kittle.
George Kittle is a beast. George Kittle.
He's a beast. Yeah.
I just think it'd be cool.

Yeah, he is.

You're big enough.

You can do it.

I'd like to see you knock out a free safety this year.

And I'd like to see you play in an NFL game.

Yeah, same.

You have one drop this year.

Jake just looked it up.

That's not bad.

So you actually have fixed that part of your game.

There we go.

Fuck the Google question.

I appreciate it, Jake.

Yeah, Jake got you.

Jake got you. Do you have any questions for us? Jake is the only cool one out of all of y'all.
What's up? Wow. Yes, do you have any questions for us before we let you go? I mean, you know that we like you.
I don't even know if you listen on Mondays, but we've been pumping you up every Monday. I really don't know how to take that because your boy over here talks so much.
I've been saying good stuff about you, DK, just during the game. Iron sharpens iron.
If I don't coach you up hard, I know how you like to be coached. Yeah, that's true.
If I don't get on you and dog cuss you, then you might not perform next week. In reality, you should be thanking me for being such an asshole.
PFT, I got a question for you. How do you feel about the Fabio comparison? Fabio, excellently.
Oh, no, DK Metcalf compared me to the sexiest man in the history of romance novels. They're like all women want to fuck.
Oh, no. I'm just asking.
I'm fine being compared to Fabio. That's good.
Fabio is famous for a lot of stuff, having great hair. Getting hit by that bird on that roller coaster.
Getting his nose broken by a peregrine falcon. You name it.
Lately, I've been hearing the trolls comparison. Which one are you going to rock with? It's true.
We haven't heard from Fabio in a while. What's up with Fabio? Is he past his prime? Like, is Fabio getting fat? Is he dead? How funny would it be if Fabio was just fat as fuck? I bet you Fabio has COVID.
Fabio Lanzoni. Fabio Lanzoni.
What's he up to? Let's see. Are we still alive? What has happened to Fabio? Look, here's what people also ask.
What has happened to Fabio? Fabio he came an american citizen 2016 and lives in los

angeles where he now enjoys a life a lot of people in hollywood celebrities they take themselves too

seriously that's a quote from fabio this is pretty good too they said uh someone asked him why do

women always go crazy for you and he responded by explaining it's just because he's always himself

so he's just like it's because i'm fabio right that's a dumb question i'm fucking fabio yes he

is fabio um so yeah dk i like the fabio comparison the the troll doll comparison i think that

Thank you. Just like it's because I'm Fabio.
Right. That's a dumb question.
I'm fucking Fabio. Yes, he is Fabio.
So, yeah, DK, I like the Fabio comparison. The troll doll comparison, I think that just kind of came out of nowhere.
A little far-fetched. A little far-fetched on that one.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Like, why would y'all even compare? Yeah.
So in the future, you're going to drop the troll comparison. Big Cat's going to at you every time I talk shit about you online so that you're kept informed of that.
And I'm going to continue saying I'm a fan and hoping that you continue to be like T.O. and just dominate everyone.
And I believe your boy Big Cat was a little insecure about his shoes. He tied him.
No, I tied him because you told me to tie him. You said we were going to fight.
I tied my shoes. I'm ready to go.
You don't want to care about it.

All right, DK.

All right.

Always good catching up with you, man.

Good to see you.

Be safe.

Don't take too much offense when I drop a fire-ass diss track on you.

And hold the ball when you're getting into no touchdowns free, okay?

Just remember that.

I'm going to diss track.

High and tight.

Yeah.

If you drop another ball at the goal line,

and also everyone who lost their fantasy matchup, please make sure you add DK tomorrow and let. Yeah.
If you drop another ball at the goal line, and also everyone who lost their fantasy matchup,

please make sure you add DK tomorrow and let him know.

You did, Hank?

Hank did.

Hank lost his fantasy matchup because of you.

Where is everybody coming from?

Who is Hank?

Hank's our producer.

He's sitting behind the – he lost it.

Go ahead, Hank.

Tell him how much damage you went through.

A lot. A lot of damage.
It hurt. But it's all right.
I drafted you because, you know, you're my boy. All right.
So, Hank, I'm sorry, okay? Thank you. Wow, huge.
That's so refreshing. Thank you.
I'm going to do better because, you know, I've met you. We have a connection over, you know, Zoom.
Thank you. Thank you, DK.
You met him at the Super Bowl, too. That means a lot.
Yeah. All right, DK.
Thanks so much, man. We'll talk to you later.
Good luck. Kick the shit out of Kirk Cousins.
Yeah. Good luck on Sunday night.
I appreciate it. See you, man.
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Okay, let's wrap up. we got some guys on chicks finish up our Wednesday Billy you're looking lean by the way and your shoes still dirty we got to get you some new shoes Billy's uh switched up from from washing his shoes to now just wearing shoes that are naturally dirt colored.
Wait, are those white shoes?

No.

Yeah, those are white shoes. Those are white shoes.

Yeah, talk in the mic.

Billy, you do look lean, dude.

No, for real, though.

You look lean.

Thank you.

I've been trying.

Yeah.

Belly football is gone.

It's good because we don't want, like, an ugly intern.

That would be so gross.

Very bad for the brand.

People would be like, ew.

We got to fire Jay Mariotti. Mm-hmm.
Done. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Yeah.
All right. Go, Hank.
Hey, fuck cat. Oh.
Fuck cat. That's really original.
I have two friends who are dating. I've always been really good friends with the guy, but now since he has started dating his girlfriend, I would consider myself super close to her too.
I would even say that I now consider them my two best friends. The problem is he cheats on her all the time, and oftentimes with people in our friend group.
He even took the virginity of one of the girls in our group. Everyone seems to know but her.
If they were to break up, everyone would take his side, as we were all friends with him first. many of her friends tried to confront her about him before they even started dating and she just brushed it off so now her friends are all his friends she's truly the sweetest person on earth and he's an absolute piece of shit but i love them both dearly do i tell her about the situation or continue to act like i don't know anything p.s billy dm me back Okay, wait, so...
Oh. Billy doesn't talk to girls.
I don't talk to girls. Oh.

Wait, so this guy cheats on his girlfriend and also stole all her friends because he's like such a good time? And apparently he's hooking up with them. This guy sounds awesome.
This guy sounds like a fucking jeep. This guy's cool as shit.
Ripping virginity is left and right. Can you tell this guy to DM Billy so Billy can be friends with him? Yeah.
Teach him his ways? Yeah, he'll reply to his DM. Yeah, I don't know.
I would say just as a piece of advice, like real piece of advice. Just get really drunk and tell her.
Well, no. Oh, wait.
It sounds like they did. It sounds like they told her.
No, they tried to tell her beforehand. Oh.
She brushed it off. I think you...
No, I think you just stay out of it. Write an anonymous note.
That's good. I like that.

Maybe go old school like a ransom note.

Cut up a bunch of magazines that have the different letters,

and then use those like you're trying to stay way, way undercover so that you can't trace the handwriting back to you.

Or just stay out of it because, yeah, I just stay out of it.

You never want to get involved in myself.

That is a vacuum cleaner.

Yeah, yeah, there's a vacuum going. What should I get my fiancee as a present for our wedding day? Hmm.
Do you do that? What? You get wedding day presents. You get the cake.
A wedding. The cake.
The present is... No, the cake.
Get him a PS5. No, the groom's cake is always like the funniest thing where it's like, hey, we have this big cake and then I got to get you a groom's cake and your only interests are like the New York Mets.

So here is your groom's cake.

Here, I got you a single layer of sheep cake shaped like a PlayStation.

Yeah, you're so shallow that the only thing that you like in your life besides me is the Denver Nuggets.

Yeah, I mean, you're the present, right?

That's how you should look at it.

There it is. You're the present.
I don't's how you should look at it. There it is.

You're the present.

I don't think you have to get him a present.

Just get him the cake.

Get him the fucking New York Mets cake.

Maybe have Mr. Met come to the wedding and flip everyone off.
Or as we always say, cash.

Cash is king.

Cash is king.

Slip him like a $20 bill.

More where that came from.

Don't spend it all in one place.

Yeah.

And steal it from him when you're fucking him later on.

We never talked about this tweet, but Billy, I don't know if you guys saw this, but it

was when...

Can you explain it, Billy?

Oh, yeah. And steal it from him when you're fucking him later on.
We never talked about this tweet, but Billy, I don't know if you guys saw this, but it was when... Can you explain it, Billy? Billy thought that guys wore engagement rings.
I thought that guys and girls got engagement rings. No.
I got to pull up the tweet. That's great.
Well, because I'm such a... It was like...
Yeah, no, it's true. You're so...
Equalist. I thought that...
You're right. That's a good point.
Everyone got rings. That's a good point.
That's actually a really good point. But I really thought that the guy bought himself an engagement ring and the girl an engagement ring, and then he engaged.
It was when Mahomes said the better ring was the engagement ring, and Bale said the only problem with Mahomes' statement is the engagement ring takes up a finger where a Super Bowl ring could go. Thus, disincentivizing him to win more rings.
So you thought he was saying the better ring was the engagement ring. He was talking about his own personal engagement ring.
I thought that you kneel, give the girl an engagement ring. Slip her cock ring on.
And you have a ring. And then the wedding ring.
You think girls just about the Super Bowl ring. A guy ring, just hoping that they get engaged.

Why would I know how marriage rings work?

A promise ring?

If you were Patrick Mahomes, would you wear your Super Bowl ring as your wedding band?

Yeah.

I would.

Doesn't get much better than that.

Double Jeopardy.

Real football guy.

Hey, Jake, Philly Cat, PMT, and Big Dick Billy.

Three quick questions. Oh, is that true? No.
Do all men... Size what size are your shoes? False advertising.
What size? 14. And what size are your shoes, Hank? 12.
That one person, when you were trying to tell me that you were going to buy those with the reverse parlay, the 10 and a halves, and someone said, oh, Hank's getting Normie some shoes. That was funny.
I laughed at that. My brother was a size 12, and basically for probably sophomore, junior, senior year, freshman year of college, I wore size 12 because I convinced myself I was a size 12.
Yeah. And then I got older, and I was like, I'm not.
You're sick of getting blisters all the time? I was just like, I put on a smaller pair of shoes. I was like, oh, these actually fit well.
You thought that your foot was like a goldfish, and the size of the tank that it was in, it would grow, it would expand until it filled you up. Yeah.
I like that. I can respect that.
Three quick questions. Do all men chew tobacco and hide it? Is Tyga impressive, and does Billy have an OnlyFans? AD got hurt.
I believe my OnlyFans. Not all men chew tobacco and hide it, but most.
Yeah, a lot of them just chew it and don't hide it. Black Buffalo, not tobacco.
What was the second one? Were we thinking Tyga? Is Tyga impressive? I think he put his dick on OnlyFans. Tyga? Tyga.
Tyga. Don't know who that is.
Pass. Tyga, yeah.
Yeah, pretty impressive. YMCMB.
Pass. Yeah, Twista Don't Tigasplain me Do you remember Twista Yeah Twista That one video T-Raw That one video that Twista had That one music celebrity She was Those chicks were so hot What is that Celebrity Oh Can make you a celebrity overnight Oh Oh.
Fuck. I'm going to Google it.
Twist the music video hot. Hey, PFT EA.
Big Ben's probably been here before. Big Cat Hank and William Football.
I have an odd one for you. Actually, that's a bad one.
Hey, Big Daddy Cat and Small Daddy PFT. Hey, Hank.
So this weekend, my boyfriend and I were out and about trying to get a cat for our house when I got my period randomly at the pet store and told him that we have to go home.

I know this sounds normal, but my boyfriend is kind of obsessed with periods

and thinks they are the coolest thing ever and always asks if he can see every time I tell him.

What should I do and how do I let him down gently for stopping him from wanting to see?

Also, fuck the Cubs, go Cards.

He's just curious.

He's curious in terms of your anatomy.

He's a vampire.

I think that's healthy.

Good call, Billy.

Was it get it wet?

Is he iron deficient?

Because he might be looking at you as a source of nutrition.

I think you're thinking about Tiger, Big Cat.

I am?

Yeah.

Twista had get it wet and then he followed it up with wetter.

Yeah, that's pretty nice. Yeah, the sequel.
Are you sure? Twista. Twista, he was like early 2000s.
Yes, yes. He had a couple of hot music videos, but it might have been songs that were featuring Twista.
He was a big guy that would be featured. He was featured? He was featured a lot, yeah.
I'm sorry, but I'm checking out until I find...

Let's go with Lil Jon.

You gotta find this.

It is something about trying to find an

old boner, almost. You're basically going

back in time and be like, what was that thing that turned

me on? I gotta find that.

Look up celebrity.

When did that come out?

Mid-2000s?

Maybe.

Finding a boner.

Hello, everybody.

Big Cat PFT and Dipshit Billy.

That's not nice.

That's really not nice.

I'm a little confused with my boyfriend's thought process after a big fight that we had.

I told him I didn't want to see him for a few weeks and to leave the house.

I tried calling him and calling him, but knowing...

Oh, this is fake.

All right. My bad.
And then there's a big this uh this fellow sitting on the side of a bed oh wait it got me hey guys especially might have been overnight celebrity but no it was really it really got me going can you get verbally wooded like in a question if they write an entire question then it says like oh then there's a big black guy with his cock hanging out. Twist.
Yeah, absolutely. That'd be pretty cool.
Try doing that to Hank next time. My husband of eight years and I know.
My husband and I in eight years are going to Jamaica for vacation in mid-November. Congrats on the vacation.
And last week, he's been forcing me to watch sad movies. I didn't know why until I overheard talking to his buddy, telling his buddy that he's trying to make me cry, which will supposedly make me start my period so I'm not on my period during vacation.
My question, are all guys this oblivious to a woman's body or is it just him? It's like he's trying to recreate the moon. All he needs to do, this is so simple, this guy's an idiot, just paint a full moon on her ceiling or put like one of those glow-in-the-dark moon stickers because the periods are controlled by that i'm still looking for this i'm out but to answer your question yes every guy is is exactly that dumb when it comes to period they're mysteries to us might as well be trying to do calculus sup boys sup billy i love your facts please keep them going why does my boyfriend follow half naked girls on ig and does this allow me to be half-naked on IG or OnlyFans? IG, maybe.
OnlyFans, probably not. Why do guys follow half-naked girls? Because they're awesome to look at.
It's the algorithm. We don't even have a choice.
It's not our fault. That's true.
I get pushed into it. Sometimes I'll follow a girl because she'll have a very plain caption, and then in the next picture that she puts up, it's like, oh, them out right i feel violated when you join instagram it's like who to follow and it's just they don't you don't have a choice they make you follow like 10 to 100 accounts right off the bat yeah and it's just always girls for some reason so it's not really not his fault i follow like seven different gin seltzer tribute accounts.
And the algorithm did all that for me.

All right, last one.

Big Hats checked out.

Hi, guys.

I think I found it, but I got...

It's bad.

Okay.

Do you regret your boner from back in the day?

No, you never regret a boner.

Well, it's featuring a certain...

R. Kelly?

Yeah.

Oh.

You didn't know at the time.

Yeah.

Forget it.

What did R. Kelly actually do?

Oh, my God.

What a loaded...

End the show.

End the show.

All right, what number?

I got 17.

17.

I'm too young to know what happened.

Stop talking.

A lot of bad things.

Stop talking.

The worst shit ever. It's like, oh, we don't talk about R.
Kelly, but nobody actually says what happened with R. Kelly.
Billy's going to take every number under 18. 18.
17. 20, 40.
30, 40. 40, 40, 40, 40.
34. Just know it's very bad and it's good that he's in jail.
Let's say that. What is it? The eagle noise.
80.

80.

The eagle noise in Western movies

and what people think

is the eagle noise

is really actually

a red-tailed hawk.

That's great.

Totally different bird.

No, but they used

the recording

of a red-tailed hawk.

But everyone thinks

it's an eagle.

That's a good fact.

Fucking wrong.

Love you.

I'm hitting them

with a hard count. Love roll.
Love you. I'm hitting him with a heart count.

Love you.

Love you guys.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Oh, yeah. I don't need less to say I've all descended But I feel stolen away Slowly learning that life is okay Say after me It's a bad thing to be saved and told me It's a bad thing to be saved and told me It's a bad thing to be saved and told me Take me Take me Take me I'll keep you I'll keep you I'll keep you the one.
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